1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Call the meeting of the Randolph-town council September 9, 2019 to order. We'll start with a roll call. Here. Council of Christos, all exopolis. Council of William, all exopolis. Council of Burgess. Council of Clourder. Council of Clifton. Here. Council of Egan. Council of Goldstein. Here. Council of Halflamon. Here. Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I ask councilor Clifton to lead us this evening. 2 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:24,810 The only announcement from the Council President, I don't want to belabor the point, but I think I'll speak for myself, and I think really the whole council, you know, we need to do a better job community. 3 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:30,870 indicating amongst ourselves, you know, resolving some differences coming together for the good of the town. 4 00:01:31,150 --> 00:01:37,630 I know that's just a few words right now, and for words to have meaning it requires action. 5 00:01:37,850 --> 00:01:40,890 And I'm hoping my fellow colleagues will join me in that. 6 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:43,970 And I'm sure the public will continue keeping us honest on that point. 7 00:01:45,490 --> 00:01:50,130 Motion's orders and resolutions, we have the August 12th, 2019 meeting minutes. 8 00:01:50,130 --> 00:01:50,830 Let's move 9 00:01:53,710 --> 00:01:57,750 to the second motion made in seconded discussion. 10 00:01:59,070 --> 00:02:02,910 Actually, I pulled back my second, I don't know that I was here for that meeting. 11 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:05,190 Seconded. 12 00:02:05,430 --> 00:02:06,150 Thank you. 13 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:06,750 Okay. 14 00:02:09,230 --> 00:02:14,130 Yes, Jim, Ryan and Chris, motion made in seconded for the discussion. 15 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:16,390 All in favor, please say aye. 16 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:17,090 Aye. 17 00:02:17,690 --> 00:02:18,210 Opposed? 18 00:02:18,930 --> 00:02:19,390 Abstention. 19 00:02:19,930 --> 00:02:20,070 Aye. 20 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:20,310 All right. 21 00:02:20,930 --> 00:02:23,010 That was three abstentions. 22 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:23,690 Yep. 23 00:02:24,090 --> 00:02:24,190 Yep. 24 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:27,570 Counselor Egan, Councilor Burgess, Councilor Krizell, exopolis. 25 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:33,590 We have a presentation now from environmental partners. 26 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:36,710 They're the owner's project manager for the water treatment plant. 27 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:42,830 We have a representative here before us if you would kindly introduce yourself or reintroduce 28 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:43,250 yourself. 29 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:56,900 I'm a Senior Program Manager, part of me at Environmental Partners and the Joint Water 30 00:02:56,900 --> 00:03:05,820 Board Engineer and Director for the projects that we're doing at the Randolph-Holberg Water 31 00:03:05,820 --> 00:03:07,080 Treatment Plant right now. 32 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:14,960 What I wanted to do is just really go through this memo that I've prepared and submitted 33 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,720 to you and I have copies here for people. 34 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,720 I think, oh, actually before that, one of the things that I was asked to do is update 35 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,580 you on the Tritown project, is that right first? 36 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:29,260 Yes, Helen. 37 00:03:29,380 --> 00:03:30,520 If you could just, yes. 38 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Mr. President, last Thursday, they was a Tritown Water Board meeting with the towns of 39 00:03:38,960 --> 00:04:07,340 We met at Holbrook Town Hall around 1 o'clock, and the agenda on that was to go over the minutes of July 16th meeting the legal update on draft legislation and draft intermunicipal agreement, environmental partners update on the report of the new regional water treatment project, and then we set a new meeting date in September. 40 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:16,000 So an update on that project, we're the only project manager for the three communities 41 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,040 under the Tritown Board of Water Commissioners. 42 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:27,340 And right now, as the project stands, we went out for requests for qualifications, for 43 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:38,620 a designer and we received qualifications from two design firms, AECOM and CDM Smith. 44 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,360 They're both very qualified. 45 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:51,120 They both have local, New England experience, as well as national and international experience. 46 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,080 So they really represent the best of the best in the industry. 47 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,020 We will be having interviews on September 26 for them. 48 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:08,980 The process is such that we did a review of the qualifications to ensure that they meet 49 00:05:08,980 --> 00:05:17,640 the minimum requirements, and those reviews were done by the selection committee that 50 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:25,320 was put together under the direction of the Tritown Board of Water Commissioners to representatives 51 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,560 from each of the communities are on the selection committee. 52 00:05:30,180 --> 00:05:33,300 The next step being the interviews on September 26th, 53 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:35,520 there'll be two, one at one o'clock 54 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,320 and one at around two to 30 depending on 55 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,600 how the process moves ahead. 56 00:05:41,860 --> 00:05:46,560 Take some time to set up and break down after interviews. 57 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,620 So it won't be exactly at that particular time. 58 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:52,960 But between one and one 30 will be doing those interviews 59 00:05:52,960 --> 00:06:00,080 and then subsequently to that, the board will vote on who they want to move forward with 60 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,000 for the design and the design will start on the new regional water treatment plant. 61 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,640 The schedule for that is such that we're trying to move ahead as quickly as possible. 62 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:25,820 The goal is to start construction as soon as possible, maybe breaking ground late 2000, early 2000, 63 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:34,000 2021, and it will be about a two or three year project. 64 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,900 So it's going to take some time. 65 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:37,860 Can you back up in the design phase for a second? 66 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:44,160 Traditionally, we hear, you know, hey, a plane is at 50%, 25, 50, 25, those are all different 67 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,500 thresholds before we get more funding or whatever. 68 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,460 Do we have to, are we sticking to that type of a timeline in how the thresholds were supposed 69 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:57,660 to meet and how is that going to work for us? 70 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Okay. 71 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:11,060 So, basically, if I might probe that question a little more and make sure I understand you all's referring to funding through the SRF program? 72 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:25,720 I'm talking generally, any type of funding, but what has happened to us in the past, I believe, when I thought we were out for a design, then all of a sudden now we have to go back because we had to re-advertise and everything else. 73 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,320 So I wanted to know what those thresholds are. 74 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,780 So we are keeping everyone honest 75 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:31,140 and making sure we're meeting them. 76 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:32,200 Exactly, okay. 77 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,800 So the way the design will proceed is currently 78 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,840 we have a conceptual design, 79 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,020 which is considered about 25%. 80 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:42,200 And that's what environmental partners put together. 81 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:45,680 So the first step will be to review that 82 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,420 with the design entity and have them come up 83 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:54,600 with a 30, 40% design. 84 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,460 Is that the revised version, the tone down version? 85 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:05,580 The conceptual one that we have is the smaller version of the layout, yes. 86 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:16,940 And we will be continuing to hone that design to try to save on construction costs as much as possible. 87 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 So we'll be working with the designers to do even more. 88 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Now, once we start getting into the details of the design, we'll be able to do that. 89 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:31,340 And that's one of the questions actually we have on the qualification-based selection 90 00:08:31,340 --> 00:08:38,700 process for these two potential designers is, do they have any ideas right now that they're 91 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:40,620 thinking about that could save us some more money? 92 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:43,260 So we'll be pushing on that. 93 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:50,040 And at every step of these phases that I'm going to speak to, the percentages, the 94 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,740 The UNO project manager will do a review and we'll also be doing an updated cost estimate 95 00:08:55,740 --> 00:08:56,980 at all the stages. 96 00:08:57,340 --> 00:09:03,340 So we'll be tracking very closely what's going on with the potential costs of the project. 97 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,520 And what is your obligation to, I know your obligation would be to the Tritown. 98 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,920 What is your obligation to us, Brain Tree, Holbrook? 99 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:18,450 And it was Billy says, hi, come on down and talk to us. 100 00:09:18,810 --> 00:09:20,350 Do you have any obligation to talk to us? 101 00:09:20,350 --> 00:09:26,230 So my obligation under the contract is that throughout the project we will be involved 102 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:29,590 with communication and public participation. 103 00:09:30,210 --> 00:09:38,990 My goal as the senior project manager on the job for the OPM would be to be giving you monthly updates 104 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:41,050 on what the status of the project is. 105 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:48,170 So you will be getting them at least at a minimum in writing and I would certainly be available to come 106 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:51,610 to a monthly meeting to give you an update on what's going on with the project. 107 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:55,870 So those updates are going to be forwarded to the nine of us as well as the representatives 108 00:09:55,870 --> 00:09:56,410 of the tri-town. 109 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:57,250 That's correct. 110 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:57,590 Excellent. 111 00:09:57,730 --> 00:09:57,930 Thank you. 112 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:58,990 Yes, Councillor Goldstein. 113 00:09:59,710 --> 00:10:01,550 I have an outside question. 114 00:10:02,390 --> 00:10:08,150 I got from our attorney today the proposal of changing the ownership of the tri-town board 115 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:10,850 and creating a new type of entity. 116 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:11,590 Are you aware of that? 117 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:13,190 I'm aware of that. 118 00:10:13,410 --> 00:10:13,490 Yes. 119 00:10:13,870 --> 00:10:16,810 Does that have any effect on what's going on or anything? 120 00:10:16,810 --> 00:10:26,110 So one of the things that has to occur in order for the project to move forward is that 121 00:10:26,110 --> 00:10:36,810 the 18, I think, 1882-ish legislation that was passed that created the ability for 122 00:10:36,810 --> 00:10:42,990 the three communities to enter into various agreements to manage the water supply has 123 00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:52,630 has to be amended to create a tritown entity that will operate the treatment facility, 124 00:10:53,010 --> 00:10:59,290 which would include the treatment plant, the pumps for brain trade, the pumps for Randolph 125 00:10:59,290 --> 00:11:03,730 Holbrooke and the transmission main that go to Randolph and Holbrooke. 126 00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:08,830 So that would be what the infrastructure would be that would be managed through that entity. 127 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:11,970 And that entity needs to be updated. 128 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:13,430 And... 129 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:18,230 A whole book has the town meeting form of government. 130 00:11:18,690 --> 00:11:18,850 Correct. 131 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:21,610 And I understand that's not going to be until... 132 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:21,850 November. 133 00:11:22,130 --> 00:11:22,470 The spring. 134 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:23,050 November. 135 00:11:23,510 --> 00:11:24,690 The only special either. 136 00:11:25,130 --> 00:11:25,850 All right. 137 00:11:26,090 --> 00:11:29,750 So with that effect, you know, since November... 138 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:33,190 Since whole book is going to do anything for a couple of months, that wouldn't affect us. 139 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:37,890 So all three communities have already appropriated funds. 140 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:46,710 to move ahead with the project at the time, the engineering company that did the construction 141 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:52,290 estimate was it was in 2010 and it was about 50 million and I know all three communities 142 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:58,430 went to town meeting and improved those funds. So there's funds there to do the design, 143 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:04,850 to move ahead with the design, to move ahead with the permitting and so the town meeting would 144 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:10,250 be to appropriate the remainder of the funds that would be needed for the construction 145 00:12:10,250 --> 00:12:11,050 of the project. 146 00:12:11,450 --> 00:12:11,590 All right. 147 00:12:11,830 --> 00:12:17,650 So there's not an issue that we originally approved it for entity A and is now going 148 00:12:17,650 --> 00:12:18,470 to be entity B. 149 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:19,090 No. 150 00:12:19,810 --> 00:12:19,870 Okay. 151 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:20,290 No. 152 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,020 Please continue. 153 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:24,160 Okay. 154 00:12:24,860 --> 00:12:34,580 So following the decision of the board on the vote, we will then go into negotiation for 155 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:45,740 for a scope of work and a fee for the designer and the plan is to try to get that done within 156 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,200 a month or so. 157 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:52,420 So they would be starting design early November. 158 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:53,460 And 159 00:12:57,270 --> 00:13:11,850 then we would have a 60% and 90% and 100% deliverables at each of those junctures we would have. 160 00:13:11,850 --> 00:13:12,610 90, 100? 161 00:13:12,910 --> 00:13:18,890 Yep, we would have a review by the owner project manager. 162 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:23,910 It would be a technical team, we do a value engineering associated with that. 163 00:13:25,330 --> 00:13:28,390 and then we would move forward to the next step. 164 00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:31,150 During that period we'll be doing permitting as well. 165 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:33,290 There's a number of permits that are required 166 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:34,250 for this project. 167 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:37,770 I will share with you that we did move forward 168 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:42,330 with the next phase of the historical work 169 00:13:42,330 --> 00:13:45,670 that we had to do investigative work on the project site 170 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:48,970 and we determined that there's no further work 171 00:13:48,970 --> 00:13:52,350 that is needed and there won't be any hold-ups 172 00:13:52,350 --> 00:13:58,350 from that perspective so that permit will be finalized shortly and we'll be moving ahead. 173 00:14:00,610 --> 00:14:05,930 Conservation Commission and other permits really have to wait until we get to the next 174 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:12,490 stage of the design so we can meet in front of the various boards and committees to present 175 00:14:12,490 --> 00:14:14,150 what is being proposed. 176 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:15,530 I think. 177 00:14:16,430 --> 00:14:19,270 Let me be oversimplified. 178 00:14:20,030 --> 00:14:21,150 All this money we're spending. 179 00:14:21,890 --> 00:14:23,650 We're not going to get more water. 180 00:14:24,010 --> 00:14:25,670 We'll just handle our water more efficiently. 181 00:14:27,470 --> 00:14:32,610 What you will get is currently all the communities are limited 182 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:36,950 on what you can withdraw based on a withdrawal permit with the state. 183 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:44,690 So that is a standing permit with a state and that would not change. 184 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:46,630 So that means we don't get any more water? 185 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:52,750 You would, the size of the facility is a 12 and a half MGD treatment plant. 186 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:53,870 Is that a yes? 187 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:59,350 So when you say more water, could you be more specific? 188 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:59,970 How are we gonna be a- 189 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:18,780 There's a lot of a water bend, dances no, because we're not dredging, we're not dredging, we're not going to be adding additional capacity. But it will get rid of the cloudy water. Hopefully, we'll get rid of the brown water and not throwing it off. Hopefully, we'll be able to have this standard pressure that we're, we're used to. What is like guarantee, right? Sorry. 190 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:29,580 Yes, I'm sorry. So let me, let me finish. So in terms of additional water, no, in terms of 191 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:35,040 So I just want to be specific right now, 192 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:41,800 there's two different definitions of quality. 193 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:50,340 So in meeting state requirements in terms of bacterial and contaminants and so forth, 194 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,500 you're still meeting all the requirements of the state. 195 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,300 So there's that part of the quality of water. 196 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:04,980 I know that the community has had some major challenges with how the water looks and the 197 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:07,320 challenges with low pressures. 198 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,340 And that's what will certainly change. 199 00:16:11,260 --> 00:16:17,040 And frankly, the low pressures should change with the upgrades that we're doing now at 200 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,980 the existing Randolph-Holbert treatment plan. 201 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:28,560 The challenge we have as I had presented the first time I met with a council is that you're 202 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,300 dealing with a very old treatment facility and we're just trying to keep it going until 203 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:40,440 such time as you have a new one and it is a challenge. 204 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:46,800 So Mr. Brighton, so you're telling me it's okay for me to tell my constituents even though 205 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,360 So the water is well and you can drink it, you can do whatever with it. 206 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,800 It is, the quality of the water is safe to drink. 207 00:16:55,740 --> 00:17:01,220 Even being well, would you tell them to put the water, the electrons. 208 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,960 So my recommendation would be flush the water until it's clear. 209 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 And then drink the drinking part of it. 210 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Or you could install a point filter. 211 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:22,120 And I think so many, it's not that good quality, of a good quality. 212 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,820 Because the water coming out of the treatment plant, actually the turbidity and the quality 213 00:17:27,820 --> 00:17:31,560 of the water coming out of the treatment plant is meeting the standard. 214 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:38,140 It's the pipes in the distribution system that are having the challenge and the changes 215 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:48,220 and pressures that move the water back and forth in the distribution system so it stirs 216 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:53,340 up all this old sediment that hasn't been moved for years. 217 00:17:54,000 --> 00:18:02,280 So meaning, if I'm not mistaken, the water from the plant is good up until it travels to 218 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,660 to the pipe, to my house, then it's not good anymore, right? 219 00:18:06,340 --> 00:18:07,420 Now it's compromised. 220 00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:09,700 Now it's compromised. 221 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,020 I'm trying to understand. 222 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:16,480 Not the quality of the water, the taste, odor, and the look of the water. 223 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,840 Brein, you have something? 224 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,260 Brein, I just want to have a little bit of. 225 00:18:21,020 --> 00:18:25,580 It used word clarity, considering the issue with having, in some cases, with the water. 226 00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:38,600 But when there are two instances when people tend to see, well, three, when you may in fact see brown-brown water sediment, 227 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:48,080 it's A, it's the fire in the neighborhood, B, if there's a lot of main break, that's usually contained within that area, 228 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,100 but it can go as far as out as three or four streets. 229 00:18:51,820 --> 00:18:59,020 Or, as we've seen since April, the instances when the pressure drops at the treatment plant, 230 00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:04,760 and then when it starts back up, if you will, it kicks up some sediment that's there, 231 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:12,480 and then until individuals in a neighborhood, from sense of purposes, turn on the water 232 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,900 in their home, it helps then clear it up. 233 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:24,620 And it can depend if you're on a dead end street, because we have a lot of dead end water mains takes a little bit longer to clear up issues like that. 234 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:33,040 We've had more of those as we know over the past since April because we had the initial issue with the pump. 235 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:39,400 And I know this next letter that she's going to speak to will go to the issue that we had back in April. 236 00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:45,920 And then we had the issues of the backup pumps that were borrowed from the MWRA. 237 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,140 But then when we had to disconnect from the system and give it back to them. 238 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Again, pressures drop, go back up, kicks up the system for a few hours for people in those neighborhoods. 239 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:04,260 And then we've had three or four instances where we had to make additional changes down there. 240 00:20:04,260 --> 00:20:07,920 but again, kicked up the sediment in those neighborhoods. 241 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:17,620 It is obviously our hope and in our anticipation that once we have the new pump installed, 242 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:25,640 we will have two backup pumps at that point, but the most important part is we're going to have a consistent brand new pump 243 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:31,280 that the issues that we were confronting, because we didn't hear about the issue of sediment until April. 244 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:42,300 So, now that said, and it was mentioned already, is once we have the certified water 245 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:49,920 attenings in play, and I know what we have, I'm hoping to, during this time frame, we've 246 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,600 done kind of moderated versions of hydroflushings. 247 00:20:54,220 --> 00:21:00,920 But we're going to do a much larger version of that once we have retained earnings, and 248 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,000 And I know what what we can do financially to accomplish that. 249 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:14,580 And it's a very specific process, you don't just go around town opening up the fire hydrants, you don't open up all the fire hydrants. 250 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:23,480 It's an engineered plan that was done a number of years ago, and it speaks to exactly the flow of the water from the plant. 251 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:32,280 And when we have that in place, it will go a long way to helping when the pressure drops and then comes back up. 252 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:36,540 There'll be less sediment to potentially kick into play. 253 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:46,980 So, it's, I get the, you know, black up a better word, the bubbly water at my house. 254 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:53,560 It's very rare in South Randolph that I see any brown water except for a fire and or 255 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,340 a water main break. 256 00:21:55,300 --> 00:22:00,460 But there are definitely some areas in North Randolph and it's the rust street neighborhood 257 00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:01,300 up North Maine. 258 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Then you shoot down to the side streets, I'm a line, Pauline, et cetera. 259 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,300 Yeah, we have a restaurant down there that's been quite a bit of money on filters. 260 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:18,440 They have, and it's seen firsthand the system for residents who have their own filtration systems. 261 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:33,440 Clearly, there's changing those a lot more frequently than they would hope to, to have the water come out completely clear even when we're having some of those sediment issues. 262 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:47,280 So the short answer is it will, we believe, between the new pump and some management on 263 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,700 our end, I think we're going to have this much better situation for the residents and 264 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:54,000 the business. 265 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,680 The air that gets in the system, and I'll let you speak to this much better than I, the 266 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:13,060 The air that gets in the system is a little bit different that causes, you know, the bubbly water that literally, like in my house, within 25 seconds, my water is clear, if I pour it into glass. 267 00:23:13,940 --> 00:23:20,880 But I'll let her speak to the issues in revolving, involving the air getting into the system. 268 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,400 And just one point of clarification, Brian, if you could, are Helen. 269 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:30,380 Councillor Clujay asked, you know, is the water going through, coming through the 270 00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:34,680 treatment plant, you know, safe to drink and whatnot? And I think we've expounded and 271 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,720 explained that as well. But where does this sediment come from for the people? 272 00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:42,720 It comes from, it's in every single minerals in the water? 273 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,140 Yeah, I mean, it's in the water. 274 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,240 It's the pipe. 275 00:23:46,460 --> 00:23:47,020 On the pipes? 276 00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:47,680 Yeah, pipe. 277 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,460 So, basically, it's deposits in the pipe from minerals in the water. 278 00:23:52,980 --> 00:24:02,420 And what happens over time is it does tend to leach out of, it's a standard chemical 279 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:05,360 process that happens in all water supply systems. 280 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:15,340 To a certain extent, to a calculation, some of Randolph did go through some process 281 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:22,360 of cleaning and lining their pipes and in those areas there's less. With that said 282 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:28,600 even a pipe that has cementitious lining on it can have some sediment and it 283 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:34,640 particularly if it's a dead end pipe and historically water is just flowing in 284 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,200 one direction. So you're going to get sediment and as soon as it starts flowing in 285 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,320 another direction that sediment gets picked up and then when you turn on your 286 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,780 water, it comes through the service connection and out the pipe. So my 287 00:24:49,780 --> 00:24:55,940 recommendation right now is before you use your water to turn it on and let it 288 00:24:55,940 --> 00:25:02,440 run until you see it's clear and then drink it. And do it with cold water. Yes, and 289 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,120 deal with cold water. Yeah. All right. I think you were going to talk about the 290 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:11,660 cloudy water next. So the cloudy water is, it's air and 291 00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:19,480 treatment in the water system. So it's not anything to do with quality, it's not a contaminant. 292 00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:27,540 Air and treatment gets into the system with all these changes that are occurring at the treatment plant. 293 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:34,880 So again, the changes in pressures, the pumps being shut off and on right now, if you may recall, 294 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:48,220 When I came in June, we talked about the first phase of the work that consisted of adding a new rebuilt motor to one of your finished water pumps. 295 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:58,900 I don't want to interrupt you, but so we're trying not to confuse to try to try town treatment plant with the joint treatment plant, which is another issue. 296 00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:00,740 Can we kind of try to keep them separate? 297 00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:07,660 I know the cloudy water is on the joint and that's why we're trying to you know 298 00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:12,260 because it's going to cost us $0.2 million and so somewhere in that range so if 299 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:16,640 we can kind of try to keep that as one issue and then the joint thing is 300 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,020 separate. Right so getting back to Tritown then. Thank you. You know I'll come 301 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:23,440 because they're getting back to Triton. 302 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,920 We will have 100% after that point we'll go out to bid. 303 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,500 There'll be a bid process that we follow 304 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:38,000 according to chapter 149 requirements by the state. 305 00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,200 And we'll get bids. 306 00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:45,620 100% gets us construction drawings. 307 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,620 Correct. 308 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,160 100% gets us construction drawings. 309 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:56,580 and the 80% is what we submit to the state for the state revolving loan fund process, 310 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,580 for them to approve the design and approve the funding for the project. 311 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,940 And then they give approval to move ahead with the final design. 312 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,040 And then we have to go through a process of getting approval from them to bid the project. 313 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:23,380 It's pretty standard and we do this. I've worked on many, many projects that are state funded and it's a standard process that we go through. 314 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:31,540 Something we just put question. Thank you. You say you're starting design early November of 2020? 315 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,900 We're starting design in early November of 2019. 316 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:38,180 19. 317 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:38,960 Excellent. 318 00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:39,520 Okay. 319 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:41,160 On the Tritown. 320 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:41,520 Yep. 321 00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:52,920 We have heard in the past previous superintendent, sometimes we would talk about a stand pipe on our end to that extra pressure, I guess, the system. 322 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:56,600 And then we were told, no, we don't need a stand pipe. 323 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,400 When is that decision made? 324 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:01,600 Okay. 325 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Okay, so this is right down, this is right down, because once we get the new pipe in its question, 326 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200 do we need the pressure on our end to keep on pushing it through? 327 00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:16,900 So, you do not, I 328 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:23,760 want to say two or three years ago when it was before, I apologize, 329 00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:27,060 I don't know the exact date it was before I came to environmental partners. 330 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:34,060 Environmental partners did a war distribution analysis of all three communities and 331 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:37,680 And looked at the water storage. 332 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:47,660 Any water storage for the community would be located within the distribution system and is separate from the Tritown treatment plant. 333 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:56,560 So we're going to be pumping from the treatment plant into the Randolph-Holberg distribution system. 334 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,380 So you'll have pressure that you need. 335 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Do you need to increase your storage capacity in the distribution system? 336 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:11,840 We had put together, I believe, a capital program for the various communities to look at that issue. 337 00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:16,440 I would have to go back and look at what that included. 338 00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:24,100 I don't have it off the top of my head, so I really don't want to just tell you something that's not necessarily the case. 339 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:27,040 I'd be more than happy to get that clarification for you, however. 340 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:33,200 If you could but by virtue of building a new treatment plant, we don't need a new stand pipe because of that treatment plant. 341 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,540 No, you'll get the pressure you need from the treatment plant. 342 00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:47,640 The way we're proposing the design is that the Randolph-Holberg will have dedicated pumps within the treatment plant specifically for the two communities. 343 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:56,600 and including the ability to add appropriate treatment chemicals depending on the need 344 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,160 of the various communities. 345 00:29:58,460 --> 00:29:59,680 So if you need a different type. 346 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Or whatever reason? Eventually, we're going to go all to the same type, though, right? We're going to, we're not, you'll go to the same type, but the dosing rates may be different depending on the time that it takes to get from the treatment plan to the distribution system. And that's being, we're connecting to what 24-inch line on, and no AF, is that how we're going to connect to the system? You will connect up to the existing 24-inch transmission main. That's correct. 347 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,020 the proposal right now. And again, we have a designer that we're going to be 348 00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:38,760 bringing on board. And if they have a recommendation that's more cost-effective, 349 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:44,880 we'll certainly entertain that and look at that. But right now, as it stands, 350 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,860 we're looking at redundant pipes that are what we call sub-aqueous across the pond. 351 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:56,400 So we don't have to travel a longer distance and also go through wetlands and 352 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,240 and so forth, so we can just put that in. 353 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,040 They sit in the bottom. 354 00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Yes. 355 00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:03,910 Thank you. 356 00:31:04,550 --> 00:31:11,910 So, depending on, again, I think as the project progresses, 357 00:31:13,690 --> 00:31:17,630 we'll be giving monthly updates to you. 358 00:31:20,050 --> 00:31:22,810 The, and there will be, the plan right now 359 00:31:22,810 --> 00:31:26,130 is that there will be, right now, Tritown website, 360 00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:28,710 I believe the Tritown things are put 361 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:33,810 on the brentree is housed on the brentree website and we'll be updating, we'll have project 362 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:37,790 updates on that website as the project continues. 363 00:31:38,890 --> 00:31:43,030 Can we get those linked to ours, to our website as well, Helen? 364 00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:44,930 Councillor Clujer. 365 00:31:45,410 --> 00:31:46,190 Thank you, Mr. President. 366 00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:52,210 Mrs. Allen, from start to finish, how long do you think the process is going to last? 367 00:31:52,210 --> 00:32:02,770 If we can fast track it, the hope would be that we bring it, we have start up by 20, 23. 368 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:15,660 That will wait four years to get a bit of, well, yeah, so 2019 is almost over so, unfortunately, the construction itself is a two year project. 369 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:23,760 So just the construction of this facility would take two years, and that's, you know, with everything. 370 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:31,360 the star is aligned, and no hiccups with weather, with. 371 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:35,580 That's what I was just going to say, no weather with, with all kinds of problems. 372 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,660 With permitting and so forth, right? 373 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,980 And on the permits to build the plant, obviously, the State EPA permit, a DEP permit. 374 00:32:57,660 --> 00:32:59,340 Is there, are there federal permits? 375 00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:20,200 So there is an Army Corps of Engineers permit for two reasons, one for the Sub-Aqueous, and then also because we'll be doing some work around the intake structure as well, which is right along the pawn's edge, and that requires a Corps of Engineers. 376 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,020 and then that also requires a 401 more equality permit. 377 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:33,000 There will be a MEPA requirement, we're hoping an E&F only, not an EIR. 378 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,220 An EIR would take longer. 379 00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:41,620 We're putting the treatment facility on a new site. 380 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,680 However, it's right next to an existing site that's already been altered. 381 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,060 so we're hoping that the ENF process will be enough. 382 00:33:54,290 --> 00:34:02,580 Let's see, Conservation Commission only for, well, for both Randolph and Branchary Randolph, 383 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:14,580 so we can hook up the Savagrius transmission mains to the transmission main on the Randolph 384 00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:15,300 time property. 385 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:22,200 Let's see and a number of other smaller ones. I think the 386 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,380 residents you know watching here and at home tonight are you know curious if 387 00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:30,760 there are any more things they should know about water quality going forward in the 388 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,380 short term. Do you have anything else that you'd like to add? So water quality in 389 00:34:35,380 --> 00:34:41,600 the short term I would say we are getting we've started on the second phase of the 390 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:48,540 work which is the bigger project. We are going to be replacing the entire 391 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:58,720 electric system and you will have a new fish water pump 3 motor pump. That will 392 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:02,880 be a more reliable pump and it will be connected up to a brand new electric 393 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:10,580 system and at that point we're hopeful that that will resolve the air and 394 00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:16,760 treatment problems and the changes in pressures and that your pressures will be back up to 395 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:23,000 where they need to be in that associated with a flushing program that the town is going 396 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:31,260 to do within the distribution system is the goal to resolve those challenges. 397 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,240 Have we fixed the leak in the roof over the electrical system before we fix the electrical 398 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:37,660 system? 399 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:46,970 So right now there's no leaks in the roof, so it's been fixed. 400 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:50,130 Anything else from the council? 401 00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:55,870 How are you going to talk about the air in the system? 402 00:35:57,210 --> 00:36:06,130 So the air entrainment has been from pumps being turned on and off and vows being installed during the process of some of the upgrades. 403 00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:12,030 So, as air and treatment gets in, it has to work its way through the system and be expelled. 404 00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:17,150 Right, so that's when they open a pipe and the water leaks out and then it just fills 405 00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:20,250 with air until you flush it completely out of the system. 406 00:36:20,570 --> 00:36:27,610 Right, so if you do have that, again, your best option is to let the water run till it's 407 00:36:27,610 --> 00:36:30,530 clear and then that should resolve it. 408 00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:38,310 And then when, when are we looking at pump three being put back on the line? 409 00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:41,210 Yeah, so that's certainly the bigger challenge. 410 00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:47,870 One of the things that is the problem is these pumps don't come off the shelf. 411 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:51,170 They have to be built and they're very large pumps. 412 00:36:51,730 --> 00:36:57,290 And the delivery date currently is December for the pump. 413 00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:07,970 All the electric should be done by October, and we should begin to be transferring some of the other equipment over to the electric system. 414 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:13,530 So, are the residents going to see a disruption in service when this pump is? 415 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:14,670 That was my question. 416 00:37:14,830 --> 00:37:15,910 That was going to be my question. 417 00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:18,210 And put back into it. 418 00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:25,100 So we have, currently we have pump four online 419 00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:28,260 and then we'll be bringing pump three online. 420 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,320 And we also have a rental emergency backup pump. 421 00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:41,100 If we're able to bring pump three on with O between now 422 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:44,800 and then having any challenges with pump with the pump 423 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,560 and motor four, we shouldn't see any major problems. 424 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,580 And that changeover would be done in the evening in night hours. 425 00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:07,740 And I will assure you that the contractor is working extra hours as well as need be to make sure that the project gets fast tracked as much as possible. 426 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:12,640 So the goal is that there won't be, I cannot promise that. 427 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:21,020 And what is the time frame on the replacement of that pump December and how long does that take to do two days day we 428 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120 Set up and so forth and start up a couple of days 429 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,960 It'll be installed and then it's really the startup will be a couple of days just to make sure that it's operational 430 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,900 Can we try to schedule that and Brian can look at this? 431 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:40,420 Even though it may be over night hours 432 00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:46,300 you know the day of the week that we're looking at as far as businesses and 433 00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:50,580 everything else that can that can certainly be at the discretion of the 434 00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:58,920 community absolutely so when we get closer to that counselor why don't I 435 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,680 can certainly work with yeah I mean he'll know and make sure that it's the the 436 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,460 appropriate time and day to make sure that the least destruction possible yeah 437 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:14,500 If it goes bad, we'd prefer it to go bad on a time that's not. 438 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,480 We'll make sure that gets coordinated. 439 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:17,700 People are trying to get it for work. 440 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:20,040 My last question, thank you, Mr. President. 441 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,820 If at any time, you know, some issues had to happen. 442 00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:31,100 Do you have a plan to notify the public even if it's overnight right away? 443 00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:32,760 What is the plan to let them know? 444 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:38,900 Because we don't want any chaos, any panic in the community anymore. 445 00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:52,660 So we work with all excuse me can you can you predict something is going to happen and send out with a notice and so wait until so what we can do. 446 00:39:53,340 --> 00:40:02,480 Councilwoman is as a major event is going to occur under the construction. 447 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:16,840 We could let Mr. Howard and the DPW Director know that we send out a notice to the community and say, okay, we're making this change in the treatment plan. 448 00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:20,280 In case there could be a potential for- 449 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:20,580 Wonderful. 450 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,800 Yes, that's what I wanted to thank you. 451 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:33,180 That's what we're using right now, that's correct, yes. 452 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:38,740 The last thing says a permanent bypass piping connection for emergency backup system will be in place. 453 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,720 That's already in place, actually. 454 00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:44,400 Is that, is that what we're using the temporary pump? 455 00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:46,500 That's what we're using right now, that's correct, yes. 456 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:51,920 And that will remain in place in the event that we have any other problems. 457 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,040 Now, let me ask you a question. 458 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,180 And is required by MAST-TEP as well? 459 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,900 Okay. Let me ask a question. 460 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,880 With the new treatment plant that will be built. 461 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:03,200 Yes. 462 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,700 Will there be like a cross-connection between 463 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,640 brain trees, pumps, and Randolph's pumps? 464 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:16,540 For example, if something happens to the pumps that Randolph and Holbrooke are using, 465 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,900 will there be a connection that we could get water from the other set of pumps? 466 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:22,860 How does that work? 467 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:30,780 So how it works is currently right now the distribution systems are at different elevations. 468 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,840 So the actual pumps that are being used have different heads. 469 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,560 There will be redundant pumps for both communities. 470 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:39,900 Oh, they will. 471 00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:40,420 Yes. 472 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:41,080 Okay. 473 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:48,380 There has to be, it's required by mass DEP that all construction of water treatment facilities 474 00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:55,620 have a redundancy, and that redundancy has to be available, so it will be there. 475 00:41:58,620 --> 00:41:59,000 Thank you. 476 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,620 Thank you for being here with us tonight. 477 00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:01,560 Anything else? 478 00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:02,500 Brian? 479 00:42:02,980 --> 00:42:09,100 No, just real quickly, I think it was part of the conversation, but I do think it's an important 480 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:17,660 part, is that the pump, which we were hoping would be in place and operational by mid to late 481 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:23,160 October, as you see here, is looking now to be mid to late December. 482 00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:29,860 So I just think it's important that the public understands that there is a time shift there. 483 00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:36,740 Knock on wood, if all the other work that's been done down there continues in the fashion. 484 00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:46,240 That it has that the backup pumps that are being used currently, we won't have those changes in pressure that kick up the settlement. 485 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:57,300 But I did want to note that there is a shift of give or take six weeks, based on the design and the manufacturer building the pump to that design. 486 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:10,440 So I think it's important to just put that out there that there is give or take about a six week delay from when we last met on this back and was it late May early. 487 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,180 Right, right. 488 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:23,800 So in the reason behind that is what happened is the contractor was signed up for the work and then put in a purchase order for the pump and then the manufacturing. 489 00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:32,340 That's when the manufacturing company indicates what their own guarantee for delivery. 490 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,980 And that's the quickest they could get it. 491 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:46,400 Brian, I've had several people ask me this question, maybe you're probably better able 492 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,300 to answer this. 493 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:56,860 Residents think that there's a DPW water individual down at the water treatment plant that works 494 00:43:56,860 --> 00:44:00,920 for Randolph and one that works for Fulbrook. 495 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:10,880 Can you explain how that works, how that works, that it's a separate entity? 496 00:44:11,380 --> 00:44:15,980 I mean, I've had times that Keith and members of our Water Department assist. 497 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:16,900 Yeah, absolutely. 498 00:44:18,260 --> 00:44:27,180 Because they're a great resource, but it's a different union, it's a different operation, it is totally, totally separate. 499 00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:32,380 It's a self, how do you, how do you categorize it? 500 00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:35,360 Well, for all the sense of purposes, and I'll use the term assessment, but 501 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,400 you know, the joint, the joint water board comes up with what the budget is necessary. 502 00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:46,880 And then we get assessed that, and then through water and rates we pay our portion of that assessment. 503 00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:53,840 So it's a different company, really, that, or a different part of government that controls 504 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520 that a lot of distribution. 505 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,500 And again, this gets back into some of the issues of the old. 506 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:25,320 There's a language from 1888, where you have a representative from Randolph, you have a representative from Holbrook, and it's a separate entity, but yet there is a lot of intermingling in the sense that the people that operate that, you know, our DPW superintendent is on that, as is the town administrator in Holbrook. So it's a separate entity, but it's very strongly connected. 507 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:32,240 What is our ability to audit those books? 508 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,180 Free, Mr. President, I think we can just ask for information in conversations that 509 00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:46,860 we've had recently at the joint board meetings with Town Hallbrook's accountant is that 510 00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:51,680 on a quarterly basis, we would get a detail of the expenses. 511 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,400 So I do receive that. 512 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,820 But upon requests, we should be able to obtain it. 513 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:04,520 Are we sure, how sure are we, that what we're getting and what we're paying for is, 514 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:13,520 if they put on a bill about your ex-feet of pipe, who checks that? 515 00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:18,640 Who checks to make sure that's actually a joint water board expense as opposed to a ton of whole work expense? 516 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,220 That should be the joint water board. 517 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,320 I mean, Keith, he can better speak to you. 518 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,060 When they're going through the process of paying their vendors, 519 00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:37,660 their bills, a role, there's an opportunity for them to review that. 520 00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:42,320 And if there's a discrepancy, there should be a discussion based upon that. 521 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,300 So I'll ask the question again. 522 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:44,900 Sure. 523 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:47,680 How is our, what is our ability to audit those books? 524 00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:52,820 Do we have a statutory bill? 525 00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:57,420 So we have a statutory ability for the Council to audit us, we have to audit annually. 526 00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:58,520 It's in the charter. 527 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,780 I don't, it's Holbrook, it's Holbrook's finances, finance books. 528 00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:06,920 It's not a separate account, it's the Holbrook ledger, correct? 529 00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:10,180 I believe it's a sub ledger on their account. 530 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:17,160 So when they submit balance sheets to Department of Revenue, just like we do, that's part of their operation. 531 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,280 So it is looked at, I mean, I think we can request it. 532 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,340 more than quarterly if the council would like me to and I can review with the DPW director 533 00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:32,220 and anything we feel that is questionable and we go to a joint board meeting and I can 534 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:35,300 ask the question and you know get further explanation. 535 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,320 I think the retained earnings does get certified from Department of Revenue so that is a public 536 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,660 number. 537 00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:48,480 I think at some point if we're not obtaining information voluntarily it would be a public 538 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,840 public records of requests, but I think with their town account now formed a relationship 539 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,200 that we should be able to get it without much trouble. 540 00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:06,720 I think more recently, our relationship is more productive of getting things done than 541 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:07,760 it has been in the past. 542 00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:14,780 And I'm concerned that what has been in the past may have caused us some more concerns. 543 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,380 Let me hear that. 544 00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:16,840 That's why we just buy it again. 545 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:21,460 I think we can continue these discussions at a future time, Jim. 546 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,020 I think most of this was so the residents could hear about the water quality and this going forward. 547 00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:30,560 Not necessarily the financials or personnel matters, but thank you for raising this point. 548 00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:37,720 I think it's important to make sure that what we are spending the taxpayers' money on is actually what the taxpayer 549 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:44,560 of Randolph actually owes, that we're not being charged something else, especially when it's costing us a lot of money. 550 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:46,400 So I think it's relevant. 551 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,420 Thank you for being here, Helen, and have a wonderful rest of your evening. 552 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,300 Thank you very much, thank you very much. 553 00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,880 Next item up, Tia, I want to come forward. 554 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,620 We have the superintendent before us for a discussion on use of bid savings, 555 00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:10,980 bid saving funds for needed repairs at the Dunnevin and young elementary schools. 556 00:49:11,580 --> 00:49:16,040 And I'll just say off the bat that this would not be something we'll be voting on this evening. 557 00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,720 Do we have what you've sent printed? 558 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:28,200 Well, I'm not sure which document was sent to the Councilor, so I'm not sure which document you're referring to. 559 00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:33,820 I will say that, and we can double check what that is, certainly. 560 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:36,700 Okay, so I wasn't in the email. 561 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,600 I sent an email, but I did not send the follow-up documentation. 562 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,720 I'll explain it in a minute, but I'll look at it. 563 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:46,820 And that's why tonight, there will be no votes asked for tonight. 564 00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:53,160 Basically, the council authorized funds to be used for 565 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,280 those two projects, between bid savings, construction savings, and 566 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,600 contingency savings that is give or take $2.3 million that's available. 567 00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:11,700 The superintendent would like to use a portion of that money on projects that are 568 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:19,740 not specifically project related or incidental costs, so there are two different things that we're going to talk about at the next meeting. 569 00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:40,200 One of them is the issue of the air conditioning units that are present in the nurses, and this is both the lions, I mean sorry, the Dunnevin and the young is there are certain classrooms for students with IEPs, 570 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,220 related issues that there are air-conditioning requirements, there's air-conditioning 571 00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:48,200 requirements certainly in the nurses office, and then the administration offices are used 572 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,960 throughout the summer, so those have always been provided with air-conditioning. 573 00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:58,160 Those were not factored into the original project, so there were some costs involved in that. 574 00:50:58,580 --> 00:51:04,480 However, that could be handled through what are called bid savings, meaning that 575 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,880 in talking to our financial advisors that would be seen as a project related or 576 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,200 incidental cost, so that's one issue. 577 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:20,840 There's a separate discussion where the bid savings that we spoke about, 578 00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:25,600 there is an opportunity to do some work at the Dunnevin School in particular, 579 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:33,620 and the majority of those costs, which is about $300,000, if you would have choose to do 580 00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:40,420 the replacement of the heating system that heats specifically the cafeteria and the gymnasium. 581 00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:46,180 It's about 60 years old, so the superintendent reached out to myself and the president 582 00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:49,540 and asked for compensation to be had on that. 583 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:54,320 But we feel talking with our financial advisors that we would have to advertise it and treat 584 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,860 it as we would one of our capital projects as a separate vote. 585 00:51:57,860 --> 00:52:08,440 But it would be no greater than it would be still a savings over the original project costs but it's not tied specifically to that project. 586 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:18,680 But there was another component where for additional funds you could add an NAC component to it. 587 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:42,460 So, before our next meeting and we brought forward a Council order to do this work, what is the appetite for, and it is, it's literally, it almost doubles the cost from about 300,000 to 600,000 to add an AC component to both the cafeteria and the gymnasium. 588 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,380 Is that something that the council will entertain, the superintendent can speak better to that? 589 00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:53,400 And there's a few other smaller items that would be included in that, the kitchen exhaust fan and ventilation. 590 00:52:54,820 --> 00:53:03,620 And also their walk-in freezer has significant issues, and quite frankly, I see that as stuff we need to do. 591 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:09,420 So those total up to about $50,000. 592 00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:15,800 So, I do think that there are some immediate needs that we should entertain. 593 00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:24,560 I think the greater conversation for the council, for us to hear about, is where they would 594 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:30,460 stand on the issue of replacing the heat system in the gymnasium and the cafeteria. 595 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:37,360 I would say that as we've heard with the water treatment plant, if your infrastructure 596 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,700 sure continues to get older and there's only so much you can do to tweak that. 597 00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:50,120 I think there is definitely value to us doing that work at the Donovan School, but the 598 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,680 greater question is, do you want to take that next step and have a location that could 599 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:02,960 be used during the summer for other purposes if we had an emergency in town and we needed 600 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,340 to have additional A-conditioned locations. 601 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,500 Yeah, but that's not the same thing, right? 602 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:09,140 Hold on, we have some people. 603 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:18,180 What I'm saying is that the opportunity to do that would be now when you're asked to replace the heating in those two rooms. 604 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:25,060 And if there's not enough appetite for that, we'll collectively come back with, 605 00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:26,940 with an order that reflects that. 606 00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:27,720 Councillor O'Connor. 607 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,120 Councillor O'Connor. 608 00:54:28,460 --> 00:54:35,040 So with those additional items, would they be covered in the MSBA reimbursement? 609 00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:35,780 They would not. 610 00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:37,160 We don't think they would be. 611 00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:40,500 We don't think that we would get reimbursement. 612 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:48,080 So on the plan that we currently are doing, we're doing windows, we're doing windows doors, 613 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:48,940 boilers? 614 00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:50,220 Windows and doors. 615 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,200 Boils were done. 616 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,000 Boils were done before. 617 00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:54,660 So windows and doors. 618 00:54:55,580 --> 00:54:56,100 Okay. 619 00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:18,960 Okay, so do we know, so if you're saying that we have to put a separate application in, not a separate, it has to be treated completely different and can't be part of this, of this project, that we don't know that if we put this in, that we could get reimbursement from it. 620 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:27,860 I would be very surprised if they did in fact reimbursement, can we put it in and seek for reimbursement? 621 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,460 Absolutely. 622 00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:30,580 Would we receive it? 623 00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:32,160 Probably not. 624 00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:33,680 Councillor Eugen. 625 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,100 Thank you, Mr. President. 626 00:55:35,380 --> 00:55:37,840 I don't mean to diverge from the specific topic. 627 00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:44,100 But is there a kind of dis-sparked, dis-compensation kind of dis-sparked in my mind? 628 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:51,460 And sort of like what Mazbo put together for business offices is there something internally 629 00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:59,560 or an association or something that is providing assessment of our current tangible physical 630 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:06,880 buildings, the status of them and the systems within them so we can sort of predict these 631 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,320 problems before they happen. 632 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,920 We know that the schools are X money years old so the systems are X money years old so do 633 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:32,020 Do we have a report in place, excuse my ignorance for not knowing, but do we have a report in place that was done internally, externally, an assessment that is being done, can be done so we can sort of predict these things before they happen and we have to spend more money fixing them rather than preventing them. 634 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,240 So, my response that would be that I don't know if there's an existing organization. 635 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:43,260 However, the OPM and the contractors that are currently in both schools working on the 636 00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:51,360 HVAC systems have reported that the Dunnevin system, the heating system, which is 58 years 637 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:57,340 old, is not working efficiently, which we know it gets extremely cold in the winters in both 638 00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:59,560 of those rooms, the cafeteria and the gymnasium. 639 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:07,760 And so, with the new windows, there may be a little more efficiency, but bottom line is it's not shooting out the heat that it would need to. 640 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,300 And the cost to repair that alone was $295,000. 641 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:19,740 And then there was a conversation about adding air condition into it. 642 00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:28,600 And I thought, why would you add air condition to a 60 year old piece of equipment and invest any money in some things so that the AC works, but then the heating doesn't work. 643 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:57,000 So, originally, when I sent the email, I had said to you that I was going to send you a follow-up document, and the reason I did not send it was they have not given me sufficient information that I would come forward to the town council with that information, so they've given me some bulk numbers, but they haven't really broken it down to say this is the cost of installation, this is the cost per unit, this is the cost, so I didn't think it made sense to bring that to the town council as I thought it would add more confusion than clear up anything. 644 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:12,500 but I have asked for that and that's why I wanted tonight just to be a discussion to put on the table what I'm looking at so that the town council knows where what direction I'm trying to go in and then when I have further information to bring it forward to the council. 645 00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:17,600 So basically, as Brian said, and Brian kind of did my presentation, so I'm not really 646 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,360 sure what I need to add to that, but basically some of the air conditioning issues that 647 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:29,260 were that I originally been talking about are covered as incidentals as a result of the 648 00:58:29,260 --> 00:58:30,360 initial project. 649 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:36,320 So for example, when they pulled out all the units in both of those schools to put in 650 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,680 the new windows, the new windows do not accommodate air conditioning. 651 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:51,800 In order to do it, you'd have to pull pains out of the window would actually void the contract on the brand new window, so that would not be a feasible option at all. 652 00:58:52,660 --> 00:59:06,520 So with that being said, I believe that issue has been resolved, but the bigger issue is they are not expecting the contractors are not expecting the heating system at the Donovan to last much longer. 653 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:35,060 And so my thought is because there's a bid savings at the Dunnevin that we use that money to look at repairing the heating system or replacing the heating system with a system that would provide both AC and heat at the cost of 600, roughly $600,000 and then we would actually have two huge spaces at the Dunnevin where kids could go in extreme heat. 654 00:59:35,060 --> 00:59:56,460 And I don't know if you remember last year in September when everyone was getting calls because the schools were too hot and we were delivering ice and popsicles and water because the Donovan is pretty overcrowded and there are lots of students there would be two large spaces that would kind of accommodate that as well where they could actually do programming in those two rooms. 655 00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:59,440 So, it serves two purposes, but I also know. 656 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:26,380 That what I'm asking for is a big ask. All right, we've got a log jam. Councilor Hufflermon, then Councillor Goldstein, Councillor Exopolis, Councillor Exopolis, then Councillor Eugen. No, I'll be quick. Actually, my request was only to allow the superintendent to have a piece before everyone jumped in because you did not give you an opportunity to speak before everyone else spoke. So that's all I wanted. All right, Councillor Goldstein. 657 01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:32,600 I mean, does the bid savings mean that we have borrowed all the money we just haven't spent it on? 658 01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:39,280 My understanding is that the town has a bond to borrow, I don't believe you borrowed it all. 659 01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:42,180 Right, we have the authorization, has they been the final borrowing now? 660 01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:44,480 So if we do nothing we borrow less. 661 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:45,760 Right. 662 01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:46,520 Correct. 663 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:55,000 Now, how long of time do we have before this window closes? 664 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:01,260 is because my concern is that since the state is looking at the Lions, and one of the things 665 01:01:01,260 --> 01:01:06,660 they may look at is build a new school. I'm not sure if they will or not, but that may 666 01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:13,940 be an option. And then we have spent all this money to do the improvements of the Dunnevin 667 01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:19,620 and we find out that we don't need it for the Dunnevin because we have this Taj Mahal that 668 01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:22,060 I think that we built for the lion's school. 669 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,480 So what is the time frame opportunity that we have to make a decision on this $2 million? 670 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,280 So first let me say that whether or not we do anything at the Dunnevin, it doesn't affect 671 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:32,860 the lions. 672 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,340 So the lions will be built for an enrollment of 315, so that will not accommodate. 673 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,780 The Dunnevin is open regardless. 674 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:46,740 We just invested, I believe, $10 million into the Dunnevin with new doors and windows. 675 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,440 So that school is going to be around for at least 25 years, that school is not going anywhere. 676 01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:56,820 We do know that the heating system will not last the next 25 years, so at some point 677 01:01:56,820 --> 01:01:58,740 we have to do something with it. 678 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:05,420 The Lions actually, the chair, school committee chair, I had a Gordon and I went to MSBA today. 679 01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:15,200 We are, they gladly accepted our new owner's project manager, which is Douglas for the Lions 680 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,700 elementary school project. I'm so we are now moving on to the next phase of a schematic design 681 01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:27,220 in creating our educational program. They did comment to our OPM today that they thought our timeline 682 01:02:27,220 --> 01:02:34,920 was quite aggressive and that we may need to go back to the drawing board to sort of extend our 683 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:40,680 timeline for a couple of reasons. There has been a limitation on architects available because 684 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,800 as there apparently are lots of school projects 685 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,040 going on throughout the state. 686 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,100 And they didn't think that we were gonna be able 687 01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:48,540 to secure an architect in the amount of time 688 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:49,480 that it would take. 689 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,760 So that's something we're gonna go back 690 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,060 to the drawing board and look at. 691 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,880 So regardless of what happens with the Lions, 692 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,160 it doesn't fix the problem at the Dunnevin. 693 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,700 They're two completely separate pieces. 694 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,760 If we were combining the Dunnevin and the Lions 695 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,980 to make one sort of mega elementary school, 696 01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:10,160 I would agree that we would want to wait. 697 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,880 In terms of your answer around what is the deadline? 698 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,640 I don't have the answer for that. 699 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,040 I think that possibly the town knows 700 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,160 because they're the ones who would borrow the funds. 701 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,140 So I'm not sure there is a deadline other than the fact 702 01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:27,020 that winter is approaching. 703 01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:29,020 Hey, rhetorical question. 704 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,520 Sure. 705 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,880 When we did the windows and doors, 706 01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:35,020 we knew that we had a 60-year-old heating system. 707 01:03:35,020 --> 01:03:41,500 Is there any reason why we chose not to do it at the same time and do a major project since we're getting 708 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,140 70% of 65% back from the state. I 709 01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:52,300 Can't answer that for you when I arrived in this position the statement of interest had already been done the windows had already been chosen 710 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:56,440 I probably would have done things a little differently, but 711 01:03:57,260 --> 01:04:02,560 This is where we are. So what I would say is the schools look beautiful the windows are great 712 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:19,880 But they definitely did not take into account, although I believe just from my conversations with our director of facilities that the plan always was to ask for bid savings to replace air condition and after the fact because there was a huge assumption that the project was going to come in under budget. 713 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:28,360 Thank you Chris my thing was present to you you said it was how many millions of dollars the windows and doors it was about $8 million 714 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,240 Okay, and who wasn't that that that that 715 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,840 viewed the the windows and doors 716 01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:44,060 The plans to replace the windows and doors that was done before I got here 717 01:04:44,060 --> 01:04:49,840 But my assumption would have been it would have been the former superintendent the director of facilities the director of finance and 718 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:55,840 the chosen OPM, which was Atlantic, that that would have been done through that group 719 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,320 of people. 720 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:56,720 Okay. 721 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,300 Just because I was actually down at the dawn of the day, and even now at early September 722 01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:06,700 it is really warm in there, and I'm just surprised that, I mean, they knew that they had it, they 723 01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:12,060 had AC in there initially, and then just didn't factor it into the new project, I mean, that 724 01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:20,730 just mind-boggling to me, that they wouldn't look at that, but yeah, you can answer my question 725 01:05:20,730 --> 01:05:26,870 with that. Just unfortunate that you revisit it now, but is what it is? Bill? 726 01:05:27,410 --> 01:05:32,310 I was going to say just to piggyback on what Chris said. I mean, there were air-conditioning 727 01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:38,050 units in those windows before. I'm surprised that it wasn't taken into consideration when 728 01:05:38,050 --> 01:05:45,030 we were replacing those whether it was the engineer, the architect, the OPMO. We never viewed 729 01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:48,090 those plans and said, hey, look folks, you know, we have air-conditioning units here. 730 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:50,710 What 731 01:05:50,710 --> 01:06:07,470 Brian, we go back to the engineers in the architects and say, hey, look, now you're putting an undue liability on the residents of the town that we do this project, that we're not subject to the 70% reimbursement. 732 01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:14,550 Maybe had we done it at that particular time, that we could recoup some of the money from the state. 733 01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:20,270 You know, now it's like it's a big oops and everybody's just back it off saying that I understand 734 01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:23,310 I mean you want you want to put the air conditioning in there 735 01:06:25,110 --> 01:06:32,010 We don't want to say no, but you know now it's a huge pill that you got to swallow in order to do it 736 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:35,890 What I would say to you is and Brian may be able to answer some of this 737 01:06:35,890 --> 01:06:41,610 But what I would say to you is my conversation with the OPM is that some of it may be able to get charged the MSBA 738 01:06:42,250 --> 01:06:47,270 But they would have to look at that and they haven't gone that far yet, which is why I have not submitted any of that. 739 01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:57,390 And I understand replacing the heating system, because you have to do air conditioning, replace it, new heating system, new air condition, that means it makes total sense. 740 01:06:57,510 --> 01:07:06,930 You're not going to put air conditioning in there without replacing those units, but they kind of like, I don't know, it's like we get handcuffed here with it. 741 01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:13,350 Just to add some, hopefully a little bit of clarity, when I talked about the non-reimbursement, 742 01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:23,590 that was if the AC was added to the heating system improvements, we're very hopeful that 743 01:07:23,590 --> 01:07:31,190 the individual units would, in fact, receive reimbursement because we were able 744 01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:33,530 to confirm today that the out-project related incidentals. 745 01:07:33,530 --> 01:07:37,770 So our hope is that those units, it's kind of like the tri in the joint. 746 01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:41,350 So when you hear the word AC, because we're talking about ECN, two different levels. 747 01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:50,190 Yeah, you talk about like putting in duckless units, you know, in the offices and the nurses and that stuff there. 748 01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:59,550 But those, we believe, we're going to have some success with the issue of replacement of the heating system 749 01:07:59,550 --> 01:08:06,410 And again, this heating system is specific only to the CAF and the gymnasium that if we would add the AC component there, 750 01:08:06,610 --> 01:08:10,410 I just wanted to be upfront that I don't believe that would be reimbursable. 751 01:08:10,650 --> 01:08:16,770 And that is not part of the incident that does this, would be, would you want to, I know we're using the term bid savings, 752 01:08:18,190 --> 01:08:25,630 but I think, for intensive purposes, we'd be almost pulling back the difference and then reappropriating it to that. 753 01:08:26,210 --> 01:08:27,430 And so it would be a different order. 754 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:34,630 So the cost of that is like 600 approximately 600,000 that is at one unit or two there's two 755 01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:40,870 So it there's a it's a closet that I happen to stumble upon in the Dunnevon when I was walking through with the 756 01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:41,950 contractors 757 01:08:41,950 --> 01:08:46,530 That has these huge monstrous-looking ducks 758 01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:55,450 They're almost compressors that with these ducks and they they go up and out and so one throws heat into the gymnasium and the other one 759 01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:58,050 and pours heat into the cafeteria. 760 01:08:58,730 --> 01:08:59,710 So they're not rooftop units? 761 01:08:59,970 --> 01:09:01,790 Well, there are units up on the roof, 762 01:09:01,950 --> 01:09:04,790 but what they were hoping to do to eliminate costs 763 01:09:04,790 --> 01:09:06,750 is they could, there's a possible one, 764 01:09:06,830 --> 01:09:07,850 they're hoping that they can use 765 01:09:07,850 --> 01:09:09,250 some of the existing materials 766 01:09:09,250 --> 01:09:11,270 and just change out the ductwork, 767 01:09:11,370 --> 01:09:14,950 but there may be a way to actually put the compressors 768 01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:17,910 in the courtyard and box them in. 769 01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:21,490 So those are things that they're looking at right now. 770 01:09:24,690 --> 01:09:29,990 Councillor Eugen? Thank you. To kind of compound what other 771 01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:34,790 Councillors are saying and to go back to my original question just generally. I know you 772 01:09:34,790 --> 01:09:40,770 spoke about it about the specific projects you're putting in front of us. But is there 773 01:09:40,770 --> 01:09:46,270 a general or can there be facilities subcommittee have one? Does the school department have one? 774 01:09:46,270 --> 01:09:50,890 And just a general assessment of all the school buildings and the physical structures, 775 01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:57,010 the systems within them, they're expected longevity at this point, 776 01:09:57,190 --> 01:10:00,650 whether they haven't been replaced at this point, updates. 777 01:10:00,910 --> 01:10:06,670 Is there one comprehensive, or can there be, whether it's done internally or externally? 778 01:10:08,230 --> 01:10:14,170 Basically, study done on the buildings so we can sort of predict or 779 01:10:14,170 --> 01:10:22,870 plan for these what are now huge capital investments, especially going forward with talks 780 01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:28,310 about other investments just like we did with the doors and windows and boilers, you know, 781 01:10:28,730 --> 01:10:33,410 we want instead of becoming in front of us and us going around the merry go around for 782 01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:37,670 two hours and do we need this and should we build a new school and all this can we have 783 01:10:37,670 --> 01:10:42,960 that report done if it's not something isn't done similarly already so we know where we're 784 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,880 outstanding, you know, with the system. I think that would be good for everyone. 785 01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:51,060 I agree with you. So one there are a couple of answers to that. One is that we are looking at 786 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:57,560 the master's facilities plan anyway, because it's up for review. As you may, I think all of you know 787 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:04,440 at this point our director facility is actually out on medical. So I am looking to bring in and acting 788 01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:12,520 facilities director, hopefully in the next two weeks. We have had what I can tell you is that pretty much 789 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:18,720 the roof or the roofs at our school buildings are in great need of repair. 790 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,960 So based on where we're at right now, the boilers are pretty in pretty good shape. 791 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,060 Many of them have been replaced in the last few years. 792 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:35,160 We recently spent out of our building use fund, we spent $30,000 to patch the roof at the 793 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,700 middle school because we were getting major leaks that were affecting equipment. 794 01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:56,260 We've recently had to, right now, it's actually occurring, invest about $27,000, $28,000 to repair the poolside gym floor at the high school because of leaks that caused the floor to warp, and therefore we could not hold any competitions there. 795 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,560 The commissioner of the volleyball commissioner actually banned us using that, so we've moved everything down to the middle school. 796 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,040 So those have been two huge hits that have hit on the building use fund that we weren't. 797 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,600 And again, the result of that was a result of leakage coming from the roof. 798 01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:17,520 So we've definitely, I would say our biggest concern at this point in time are going to be the rules. 799 01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:22,220 And so we are going to have to have someone come out and actually do an extensive look at our roots. 800 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,380 We've been patching for years, even at the middle school, they were patching. 801 01:12:28,380 --> 01:12:47,140 and we're hoping right now of the last Toronto rain we did not see any weeks at the middle school but we are still seeing weeks at other schools and so I would say part of this review, the biggest thing that we're concerned about right now is the roofs but we will be following up with a much fuller facility plan. 802 01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:54,780 And I don't know to put pressure on you but do you know the timeline of that or expected or do you have any goals on that plan? 803 01:12:54,780 --> 01:12:58,960 What I would say to you is I would I would want to wait until I have a permanent facility director 804 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,100 And so some of that is just waiting sort of for things to play themselves out on a personnel matters 805 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,540 But once that happens it this will definitely take priority 806 01:13:08,540 --> 01:13:12,720 Okay, and you're going to be doing that internally or a combination of internally externally 807 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:19,600 I'm going to rely on the facilities director to tell me I believe it will be a combination of the facilities person and then you know 808 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:27,420 So we'll probably have to bring in a various expert depending on what the area focuses 809 01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:31,120 on someone to walk through internally, and then maybe someone to deal with the exterior. 810 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,380 All right. 811 01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:32,920 Thank you. 812 01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:33,540 Council Burgess. 813 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:39,420 I know you're new in this position, but there is a report that's four or five years old 814 01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:45,140 on all of the buildings to the school loans, and what they have as far as what they believe, 815 01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:50,480 of the grade or the category of each physical plant piece. 816 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,680 So that's not that old, so it's there, and so we would know about these things. 817 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,560 I've been here since 93, meeting since 86. 818 01:14:05,190 --> 01:14:07,890 Roofs, we should not be having all these roof problems. 819 01:14:08,210 --> 01:14:12,610 We have done the pool roof and the gym roof at the high school probably within the last five years. 820 01:14:13,290 --> 01:14:18,510 The middle school is only 20 years old, we have done Dunnevin, 821 01:14:22,330 --> 01:14:23,650 young, yeah, money young. 822 01:14:24,270 --> 01:14:27,650 So I don't see where we're having these roof issues. 823 01:14:28,930 --> 01:14:33,570 So I'm really concerned with that, and I'd like us to pull up the funding that we've done for 824 01:14:33,570 --> 01:14:37,170 roots in the last 10 years, Jeanine, because we funded roofs. 825 01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:47,810 So either the money went someplace else, or we need to go back to the contract and tell them you didn't live up to your warranty on the roof. 826 01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:52,070 So that's on the roof issue. 827 01:14:54,010 --> 01:14:55,910 Where's Wayne? Getting in with you? 828 01:14:56,230 --> 01:14:59,590 He's on medical leave and is expected to return on Monday. 829 01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:22,030 He would have overseen this, wouldn't he? Because he was there before you would have overseen what part? Part of the Dunnevin project. He has been overseen, but it was everything was in place when both of us arrived. Who sits? Is there a building committee for that? Yes. Who sits on that? There's quite a few people. I had a Gordon, Andrea Nixon, Ryan Howard. 830 01:15:25,130 --> 01:15:29,670 So this is a different committee. We're talking about further lions. I would have to go back and see who's sat on me. 831 01:15:29,670 --> 01:15:33,250 My concern when we did the alliance was that there was no real building people. 832 01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:34,550 There was no contracting people. 833 01:15:36,190 --> 01:15:41,630 People who would should see if we have air conditioning in a window, and 834 01:15:41,630 --> 01:15:44,490 I'm reviewing the plans, now I don't have air conditioning in the window. 835 01:15:46,290 --> 01:15:53,250 You said, and maybe I misheard it, but you said, the old units that that have been pulled 836 01:15:53,250 --> 01:15:56,650 out of the windows, but now that's been resolved. 837 01:15:57,970 --> 01:16:05,690 The windows, the units were pulled out of the windows, and obviously now we replaced the windows, but that has been resolved. 838 01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:12,430 Well that was because it was determined that those were incidental to the project. 839 01:16:12,670 --> 01:16:20,850 So the only result if we actually physically go back in and do the units in the wall? 840 01:16:20,850 --> 01:16:26,070 Yes, yes, but those though we're expecting those to be covered by the MSBA. 841 01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:28,890 Okay, so those would fall under the bid saving. 842 01:16:29,530 --> 01:16:33,810 So it's still another, it's still, we didn't resolve it. 843 01:16:33,950 --> 01:16:41,330 It's still a contract that we somehow screwed up and now we have to fix it with the war against it. 844 01:16:41,410 --> 01:16:46,670 Okay, but it's resolved in the sense that I'm not necessarily coming forward to the town council asking for 845 01:16:46,670 --> 01:16:50,190 something in addition is my point that I was making. 846 01:16:50,190 --> 01:16:52,150 And that is that wasn't in every room? 847 01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:58,590 No, that's not in every room and so the the two the 600,000 units will only do the gym in the calf 848 01:16:58,590 --> 01:16:59,990 That would do the gym in the calf 849 01:17:01,620 --> 01:17:03,620 What heats the rest of the building? 850 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,440 Univents in the classrooms, although it has been part of the project all along 851 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:16,140 Yeah, I'd like to know who sat on that look that building committee because on the Dunnevin. Yes, okay 852 01:17:16,140 --> 01:17:20,780 And Brian you you reference as a couple times that this is like the water treatment plan 853 01:17:21,460 --> 01:17:26,760 It's not. I mean, we let the Water Treatment Plan fall down around us. This was a new contract, 854 01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:33,040 and they should have picked that piece up, because it was new. So it's not the same thing. 855 01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:39,220 I was speaking to the issue of the heating system work, not the air conditioning work. 856 01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:46,780 So I think I talked about both together, and that probably minced the issues that Councillor 857 01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:52,180 I was brought up as far as the AC units versus adding AC to the heating system. 858 01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:03,960 I referenced it from a standpoint of replacing the heating system that takes care of the gym and the calf. 859 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:13,060 I view that as, okay, it's 60 years old, my guess is that, and this isn't just a Randolph thing. 860 01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:18,500 most communities continue to try and patch and move items. 861 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,220 Yeah, let's go back to when we were sold this project. 862 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,000 We were sold this project that our kids are freezing, our kids are wet because they're 863 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:26,900 cold and they're getting rainy. 864 01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:31,660 That once we got new windows, we would solve that problem and it would be environmentally 865 01:18:31,660 --> 01:18:35,540 be great, it would be warm, we'd be cold, we'd be able to do whatever we wanted in that. 866 01:18:35,980 --> 01:18:37,060 That's how we were sold the building. 867 01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:38,400 We weren't sold the project. 868 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,420 We weren't sold the project that, oh my God, let's look at the heating system because of 869 01:18:42,420 --> 01:18:47,060 60 years old. Well, the majority of the heating system of the building is the 870 01:18:47,060 --> 01:18:52,520 univents, but yeah, understood. I guess my point is is we do have an 871 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,020 opportunity to replace during the fire after the fire. We do have an 872 01:18:56,020 --> 01:19:01,060 opportunity to deal with an issue before it becomes a much larger issue. 873 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:07,200 Right. And so can I go to Ken Chris? Thank you, Mr. President. 874 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:14,140 Before we ask my question, I want to thank you, Madame Superintendent, and 875 01:19:14,140 --> 01:19:21,040 congratulate you for the energy and the synergy I saw in terms of the open houses. 876 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,240 So I want to thank you for getting us off to what appears to be a great start. 877 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:36,860 I also want to commend the chairperson of the School Committee, Ms. Gordon, and the rest of the school committee members for the excitement that was created. 878 01:19:37,660 --> 01:19:44,180 I think an attended number of the events, including the one at the young school, was very 879 01:19:44,180 --> 01:19:50,160 well attended and the parents were all ready to go, so I want to commend you for that. 880 01:19:51,420 --> 01:20:01,160 In terms of the proposal, the $2.3 million bid savings, is that normally accurate or is 881 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,400 are a margin of error of 5 or 10 percent? Anyone knows what has been the history? 882 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:12,240 My understanding right now is that these numbers are very accurate. So when I met with 883 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:18,500 the OPM, he actually had a spreadsheet of actual costs. So the numbers that he gave me 884 01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:26,040 were actual costs that had been submitted. So to break out the bid savings, there's a 885 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:30,140 combination and this again is where we were hoping to get some more information. So for 886 01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:35,320 For example, at the Dunnevin, there's a total savings of $1,488,000. 887 01:20:35,620 --> 01:20:43,580 However, the bid savings is $618,000, and the remaining cost is the balance available from construction and contingency. 888 01:20:44,180 --> 01:20:47,800 What I don't know is how much is construction and how much is contingency. 889 01:20:48,460 --> 01:20:52,280 But I know that the overall savings right now is $1.4 million. 890 01:20:54,940 --> 01:21:08,940 So before I come in front of you again, my hope is to have everything broken out so I can give you a very clear picture of where the money is going and the specific number of the ask. 891 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:18,600 Just a little more to that, I mean, we were in a very unique situation when we did the 892 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,800 police, the fire, the community center and the library. 893 01:21:22,260 --> 01:21:26,660 We actually went out to bed and timed it perfectly that we would come to the council, get 894 01:21:26,660 --> 01:21:34,580 the votes, yay or nay, and the budget was what the budget was, where the way the MSBA system 895 01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:40,480 some works does have kind of an old town meeting field to it is you do an authorization. 896 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:51,160 And then the project goes out to bid so the bid savings is based on the savings in the 897 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:57,920 construction and or the contingency is more based on savings within the project where 898 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,900 the difference is okay here's what the council authorized but this is what the bids came 899 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,440 And in the old town meeting days, same thing. 900 01:22:07,580 --> 01:22:12,720 We would put it out there, and there are times you might have to go back to town meeting and go up. 901 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,620 There are times you have to go to town meeting and pull back the difference. 902 01:22:17,220 --> 01:22:24,860 So I just, this is a little more unique in that you have the bid savings, but 903 01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:34,000 Your contingency number was baked into the actual project cost of which fact is in to the savings. 904 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:42,800 So it's a little more convoluted than we had with our four projects in the fact that this is the cost. 905 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,720 So unless there was a significant issue, we were going to have to come back to the council. 906 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:58,440 So, not gone wood, we had savings in the police and fire projects, we were able to offset some of the issues we had with the community center in the library, so it became a non-factor. 907 01:22:59,060 --> 01:23:17,360 So, we had four projects, we were able to kind of mix and mingle, they're not in that situation to do that, but the good thing here is that we're looking at the fact that there was a bit savings and there is some contingency savings, that's on the table for this discussion. 908 01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:26,300 So, from what I understand from the superintendent's response to, I think, a question by Council 909 01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:32,640 Goldstein, that irrespective of the long-term goals that we may have, the critical thing is 910 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:42,660 that our kids need the heat in the winter and then need the AC so that they can be positive 911 01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:44,380 We live and become constructive and so on. 912 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:54,340 So we're speaking of $600,000, just a bit over half a million of the 2.3 approximate big savings that we speak enough. 913 01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:55,240 Is that accurate? 914 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,780 That is accurate. 915 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,700 That's the Donovan. 916 01:23:58,060 --> 01:23:58,860 That's the Donovan. 917 01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:59,300 Yes, we don't. 918 01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:08,600 And again, so there's about another 100,000 that would impact the young, which we haven't really talked about because that's a small. 919 01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:11,440 And that is actually going to be covered by the MSBA. 920 01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:28,020 So in terms of what's outside the scope of the MSBA, it would be the Dunnevin project at 600, and right now it's at 618,000, but again, that is an estimate with no real numbers to back it up right now. 921 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:38,400 So what would be your ideal situation if the council goes along with your proposal? 922 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:46,360 Right now, I think the ideal situation, I was really, really concerned about the AC units 923 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:52,560 and the classrooms and the nurses rooms, and I, like I said, it's been resolved, 924 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:58,760 as a result in terms of them being installed, but we believe that the MSBA is going to cover 925 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,040 them and that they're the incidentals to the existing project. 926 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:19,820 So, the bigger, the bigger ask would be to come before the council and asking for an authorization to fix that unit or replace that unit at the Dunnevin to provide air conditioning and heating for the cafeteria and the gymnasium at the Dunnevin. 927 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:28,940 And ideally, in terms of time frame, if we agree to your request, what's the approximate time would be for that? 928 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,620 I don't have an approximate time, but I would say that would happen fairly quickly. 929 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:55,980 Depending on the process, we actually have people in place as they're working on this project now that we could do it and we're hoping that because people are already on site, they're already working on the units that it would happen along with the other projects and we wouldn't have to necessarily wait because we have the manpower available to do the work on site. 930 01:25:55,980 --> 01:25:57,160 Can I follow up on that? 931 01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:57,960 Yes, I follow up on that. 932 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,340 Would this be an appropriation, Madame Attorney? 933 01:26:02,340 --> 01:26:05,140 We would have to put together a three-year Mr. President. 934 01:26:05,700 --> 01:26:08,020 We would have to put together a request for borrowing. 935 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,800 So at the next meeting we would put together a new borrowing request, and 936 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,040 that would take two meetings for you to pass it. 937 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,260 So it would be not the next meeting with the meeting after you could vote on it. 938 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,860 And then as soon as you authorize it based on the authorization, they could proceed as quickly as they could. 939 01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:25,280 Thank you, thank you, Mr. Furson. 940 01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:27,940 Bill, unless- 941 01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:29,000 Yeah, just to can't see. 942 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:34,880 Just to can't point, when he brought up how quick can he get done and you said you have people there working? 943 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:46,940 So this would be a borrowing or an expenditure by us and if they funded us or refunded us, it's a shot in the dock. 944 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:51,500 So we'd do this without knowing, because you've said a couple times, you said it and you said it. 945 01:26:51,500 --> 01:26:54,860 We believe that they'll reimburse on some of these things. 946 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,360 Where do we get that belief from? 947 01:26:56,780 --> 01:26:59,120 And is that funding mechanism the way we would do it? 948 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,680 So there are two different pieces. 949 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,380 The part that we believe will be funded 950 01:27:03,380 --> 01:27:05,940 are the many split units that are going to go 951 01:27:06,580 --> 01:27:10,420 into a place what was removed from the air conditioning. 952 01:27:10,900 --> 01:27:13,160 Remove from the windows when they took the windows out. 953 01:27:13,740 --> 01:27:15,820 So that's an incidental cost to the project 954 01:27:15,820 --> 01:27:17,000 and is project related. 955 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,380 So we believe they'll cover those. 956 01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:19,500 So why do we believe that? 957 01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:24,040 But because the OPM has said that it's covered as related to the project and then we would 958 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:24,580 cover those. 959 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,280 The part that we don't believe is going to be covered because it was never part of 960 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:35,100 the project is, and I don't even know if it was looked at when they originally toured 961 01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:40,480 the Dunnevin, is this heating unit that it's, you know, this monstrous unit that heats 962 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:43,400 the two largest areas of the Dunnevin. 963 01:27:44,540 --> 01:27:48,240 Those we do not believe will be covered because they were never in the scope of the project. 964 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,520 And we just take the shot and just to piggyback on Jim here. 965 01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:55,480 Those two areas never had air conditioning, correct? 966 01:27:55,780 --> 01:27:57,140 They've never had air conditioning. 967 01:27:57,740 --> 01:28:01,160 I believe it's a heating unit at some point they had great heat. 968 01:28:01,220 --> 01:28:01,280 Right. 969 01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:04,640 Can I just follow? 970 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,120 Yeah, you were next in line. 971 01:28:07,180 --> 01:28:10,260 So we talked a great deal about the dawn of it. 972 01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,360 So the young, what needs to be done there? 973 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:16,860 The only thing that the young would be, 974 01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:22,160 The incidental cost related to the project would be to replace the units that were removed. 975 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,060 So removed that we used to be in the window? 976 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:24,360 Yes. 977 01:28:24,820 --> 01:28:30,120 Okay, does that school have air conditioning in the cafeteria or gymnasium? 978 01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:39,800 No, they do not and the way they're not, their units are very different than the Dunnevin. 979 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:45,380 They also have other heating spaces where they can, I mean cooling spaces where they can move students. 980 01:28:45,380 --> 01:28:46,900 Where has the Dunnevin does not? 981 01:28:47,420 --> 01:28:54,360 Okay, and we know that the middle school has air conditioning in the library and the cafeteria. 982 01:28:55,580 --> 01:28:56,440 And what about the Kennedy? 983 01:28:56,980 --> 01:29:01,120 The Kennedy actually, this we're going to have to figure out. 984 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:07,440 The Kennedy's nurse doesn't even have air conditioning, which is not a good situation in extreme heat. 985 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,140 So we're going to have to figure out how to pay for that through our own, 986 01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:22,080 our own funds. It should have come up when their windows were put in. It was 987 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:27,900 the same issue. To my knowledge, it was never brought before the council. I'm not 988 01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:33,860 sure of that. But when I walked around the summer, I asked and I mean the 989 01:29:33,860 --> 01:29:38,980 nurses room was 98 degrees and there was no air conditioning. So that's 990 01:29:38,980 --> 01:29:41,000 something we would have to try to cover them. 991 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,140 So can we, Ryan, does it make sense? 992 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,340 If we're going to be inclined to do this, does it make sense? 993 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,740 Maybe to take a look at that and see in that area. 994 01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:54,080 And maybe who knows? 995 01:29:54,260 --> 01:29:58,080 Maybe we can get a bit of price by bundling it all together. 996 01:29:58,440 --> 01:29:58,780 I don't know. 997 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,000 My understanding is because I was coming forward to you and Brian, you can correct me if I'm wrong. My 998 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,340 understanding is that I, because I'm coming before the council looking for bid savings, money, that 999 01:30:09,340 --> 01:30:14,860 money was designated only for Dunnevin and Young, so that I can only make the request. Now, the 1000 01:30:14,860 --> 01:30:20,960 town could definitely decide to do something differently, but I cannot ask for that money to be used 1001 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:28,520 for any school. I'm not asking you that. I didn't ask you. I asked Brian. All right, well, let's see what Brian has to say. 1002 01:30:32,030 --> 01:30:44,510 Because from what I'm understanding is that it would have to be a separate appropriation. Right. So it has nothing to do with what you currently doing on those two projects. 1003 01:30:47,170 --> 01:30:50,890 The shortings was could they be an additional appropriation or additional order? Yes. 1004 01:30:53,010 --> 01:31:00,250 Thank you Mr. President, Mrs. Dogel, for my understood during the last school committee 1005 01:31:00,250 --> 01:31:04,570 meeting the money is already there it's not like something we're going to look for or 1006 01:31:04,570 --> 01:31:10,270 we don't know how we're going to finance it right and you're being proactive in case 1007 01:31:10,270 --> 01:31:19,610 of like major extreme weather so you need somewhere to move the kids and I understand 1008 01:31:19,610 --> 01:31:22,950 and also town manager came up with a great point. 1009 01:31:23,490 --> 01:31:28,550 So that could be used as shelter for the town as well, right? 1010 01:31:28,890 --> 01:31:31,090 Yes, so you just need our approval 1011 01:31:31,690 --> 01:31:33,430 to use that money that's already there. 1012 01:31:33,770 --> 01:31:35,550 Yes, okay, we've got my vote. 1013 01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:38,030 Councilor Bridges. 1014 01:31:39,350 --> 01:31:42,830 Cox engineering, ask them. 1015 01:31:44,830 --> 01:31:46,510 They're a new company in town. 1016 01:31:47,250 --> 01:31:58,210 They build this stuff from scratch, which is probably going to be cheaper than your $600,000 boozee. 1017 01:32:00,330 --> 01:32:09,870 We need specs though on what it entails, and they might be able to, even if they can't do it at least. 1018 01:32:10,210 --> 01:32:14,570 And they promised that when we set down with them originally, that they'd look at buildings for us. 1019 01:32:14,570 --> 01:32:16,390 to actually look at, give us ideas. 1020 01:32:17,250 --> 01:32:20,170 So maybe we should have them take a look and see how do we, 1021 01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:24,170 how do we accomplish the goals, the long-term goals 1022 01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:28,130 of these buildings by getting a system in place 1023 01:32:28,130 --> 01:32:31,090 that can actually, you know, 1024 01:32:31,150 --> 01:32:34,290 if we're going to air condition something, air condition. 1025 01:32:36,250 --> 01:32:36,730 Councilmember. 1026 01:32:37,330 --> 01:32:38,410 Thank you, Mr. President. 1027 01:32:40,830 --> 01:32:42,390 Cots of engineering absolutely. 1028 01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:44,990 And they've been really good to us. 1029 01:32:45,890 --> 01:32:50,750 And I think they will definitely look after us. 1030 01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:52,090 So I agree with that. 1031 01:32:53,730 --> 01:32:57,310 Again, just thinking about this, and thank you. 1032 01:32:57,470 --> 01:33:00,350 But first of all, thank you for coming in front of us 1033 01:33:00,790 --> 01:33:04,610 and allowing us to digest this information 1034 01:33:05,650 --> 01:33:11,650 and kind of think about ways where we could be helpful for you. 1035 01:33:11,650 --> 01:33:13,910 and have a back-and-forth discussion. 1036 01:33:14,290 --> 01:33:16,610 So I totally appreciated the conversation 1037 01:33:16,610 --> 01:33:19,370 and yes, the kids in the AC, yes, the kids in the heat. 1038 01:33:20,990 --> 01:33:23,890 And I think we all at the table agree 1039 01:33:23,890 --> 01:33:26,210 that that is extremely important. 1040 01:33:27,070 --> 01:33:32,790 But again, I am hoping as we go forward the whole assessment, 1041 01:33:32,990 --> 01:33:35,110 I was mentioned that there was a plan 1042 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:37,650 that's already together assessment that's already together 1043 01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:40,590 looking at that assessment and whatever we need 1044 01:33:40,590 --> 01:33:45,490 And in addition to that, I think it would be really useful for you and us. 1045 01:33:45,870 --> 01:33:51,230 I know there's been lots of talk that just the town we have, there's been some areas 1046 01:33:51,230 --> 01:33:55,090 that we just have not taken care of, you know, and it is what it is. 1047 01:33:55,730 --> 01:34:00,870 And there's some areas where we thought we were taking care of, but it wasn't happening 1048 01:34:00,870 --> 01:34:03,530 the way we thought it was supposed to be happening. 1049 01:34:03,930 --> 01:34:04,910 And that is what it is. 1050 01:34:05,050 --> 01:34:10,170 So at this point, and going forward, I think these assessments will be very useful. 1051 01:34:10,170 --> 01:34:12,490 Well, all of us. Thank you. 1052 01:34:12,610 --> 01:34:13,390 Councilor Goldstein. 1053 01:34:14,710 --> 01:34:15,910 Dropping the other shoe. 1054 01:34:17,450 --> 01:34:19,930 If we don't borrow the $2 million, 1055 01:34:21,850 --> 01:34:25,290 Jeanine, what is the annual debt service on $2 million? 1056 01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:27,390 Proximum. 1057 01:34:32,090 --> 01:34:36,890 If I were to guess it's probably $1,000, $1,500, $75,000 a year. 1058 01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:38,390 Probably fair. 1059 01:34:38,390 --> 01:34:46,950 All right. So what we're saying that, you know, there is savings. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but we should go and 1060 01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:58,790 wear the eyes open. And if we don't do it, there is a potential additional availability to the town. Maybe for schools, maybe for public safety, whatever, between $15975,000 1061 01:34:58,790 --> 01:35:02,630 is here because we take the excess money and don't worry. 1062 01:35:06,130 --> 01:35:06,550 All right. 1063 01:35:06,750 --> 01:35:08,190 Thank you for coming before us. 1064 01:35:08,290 --> 01:35:08,970 Do you have any steps? 1065 01:35:09,290 --> 01:35:10,050 Thing you want to add to you? 1066 01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:15,810 We will submit for the next council meeting some additional 1067 01:35:15,810 --> 01:35:21,850 information, both on the finance side and we'll 1068 01:35:21,850 --> 01:35:26,650 put together a council order for consideration and the proper 1069 01:35:26,650 --> 01:35:32,950 for appetisement, should the vote be there to approve it, 1070 01:35:33,290 --> 01:35:37,410 to do the acing the heating and the duct related work at the Donovan. 1071 01:35:37,930 --> 01:35:40,910 And what about specs, the scope of work? 1072 01:35:41,790 --> 01:35:46,870 Well, that's part of the conversation as to why we didn't want to have a more. 1073 01:35:47,870 --> 01:35:49,230 No, it wasn't going to be an automation. 1074 01:35:49,730 --> 01:35:52,010 You didn't mention that, I want to make sure that is something that's coming to us. 1075 01:35:52,130 --> 01:35:54,570 Not just for that Monday, but prior to that Monday. 1076 01:35:54,570 --> 01:36:00,970 Yes, we're anticipating and expecting that the OPM will provide all of us that information. 1077 01:36:02,450 --> 01:36:03,030 All right. 1078 01:36:03,250 --> 01:36:05,590 Again, thank you, Ms. Stovell, for coming here this evening. 1079 01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:08,530 Look forward to having more conversations in the future. 1080 01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:09,290 Thank you. 1081 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:13,180 All right. 1082 01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:16,660 Next item on the agenda, and thank you for everyone's patience, is public comments. 1083 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,000 Everyone will have the chance to speak for three minutes. 1084 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,520 If anyone would like to come forward, please do so. 1085 01:36:22,220 --> 01:36:26,280 And if you can just add your name, give your name and address the record. 1086 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:31,340 63 follow street. I came with two items, but now I've got three since you talked about the water. 1087 01:36:32,440 --> 01:36:34,020 Can I ask Ryan a question first? 1088 01:36:34,940 --> 01:36:38,040 Oh, you can, when was the boiled water order, Brian? 1089 01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:42,580 The boiled water was back July, I think July 11th. 1090 01:36:42,580 --> 01:36:47,740 Okay, well then July 12th. I was watching the news on Channel 5 in the morning, which I do every morning. 1091 01:36:47,740 --> 01:36:52,240 And it was a very bigger, I thought it was an embarrassment to Randolph. 1092 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,480 Channel 5 set up their interview or whatever they want to call it, right in front 1093 01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:59,380 of the water tank on Fawn Street. 1094 01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:03,580 And that wasn't a good reflection on our water treatment plan. 1095 01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:08,500 It's rust, I know that doesn't affect the water, but people don't know that. 1096 01:37:08,620 --> 01:37:09,760 Is there any way you get anything painted? 1097 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:17,820 I brought that up the last meeting before to get that painted, because visually it's not bad. 1098 01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:18,980 It's bad. 1099 01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:24,600 The second item I had was, I came, Jason, you weren't here. 1100 01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:26,700 The Vice President was handling the meeting. 1101 01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:32,700 I asked about poll 24 on West Street, and I didn't know what the status was at that. 1102 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:38,140 But since I've asked, I've noticed three or four more around town that are in the same 1103 01:37:38,140 --> 01:37:42,840 condition. And I was wondering if there's any way you can have the code enforcement officer 1104 01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:47,560 while she's driving around making note of these polls. You maybe even take a picture with a phone 1105 01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:53,740 and then give them the Brian so maybe they can clean up the situation. 1106 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,400 And I'd like to go one step further is that I know Jimmy said it at the last meeting 1107 01:37:59,740 --> 01:38:05,120 that they came to ask for something. Instead, I just so came there permits to put a new 1108 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:14,340 Polin or a guide wire? Before you issue the permit, make them clean up the situations. Instead of them keep promise and they're going to do it because they're not doing it. 1109 01:38:15,220 --> 01:38:23,600 I haven't seen any activity on West Street. I keep my eyes open. So I don't know if that's possible or not. If you want to put a phone on them. 1110 01:38:24,660 --> 01:38:29,480 All I can say is that at a regional, you know, I know what I'm saying. 1111 01:38:29,480 --> 01:38:30,120 The energy's meeting. 1112 01:38:30,980 --> 01:38:33,320 This is not a Randolph issue. 1113 01:38:33,420 --> 01:38:35,180 This is a statewide issue. 1114 01:38:35,460 --> 01:38:41,900 I think the MMA itself was looking at one point trying to come up with some kind of legislation where there would be fines involved. 1115 01:38:43,220 --> 01:38:50,580 There is no question that wherever they can avoid switching out the poll, they do this joint attachment, 1116 01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:57,580 which certainly doesn't look safe, but it doesn't look good either. 1117 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,080 So it's frustrating. 1118 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,340 What we're talking about is these poles that are doubled up and they cut off the bottom 1119 01:39:06,340 --> 01:39:07,340 and put them on a stoke. 1120 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:09,980 That's what I'm talking about. 1121 01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:13,220 And the third thing I had, I don't know if they can be done or not, 1122 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,020 there's a lot of people in town who are on a thick sin, 1123 01:39:15,140 --> 01:39:16,720 comes like, I am, I'm retired. 1124 01:39:17,480 --> 01:39:26,040 Is there any possible way, and I don't mean right away, but you get your tax bill in November, and then you get your water bill in November. 1125 01:39:26,300 --> 01:39:32,440 Is there any way of separating so you get your tax bill in November and your water bill in this, you know what I mean, keep going on that. 1126 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,060 So you don't get the same things. 1127 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,680 The water bill is six districts. 1128 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:36,600 It's what? 1129 01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:38,980 The water bill is six districts. It's still billed out. 1130 01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:41,000 So not everyone gets it in November. 1131 01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:42,900 It varies throughout the community. 1132 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:43,960 I mean, I do so. 1133 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,780 right and it goes quarterly now as well yeah no I know it would mean it would be eight months 1134 01:39:47,780 --> 01:39:51,780 have the year water bills are going out yeah or I didn't know if you could make maybe change the 1135 01:39:51,780 --> 01:39:56,180 due date you know I don't know if you could do that yeah but everyone's not doing the same time 1136 01:39:56,180 --> 01:40:01,480 okay yeah I'll write you for Christmas and by eight months I meant 12 months my maths a little rest 1137 01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:06,860 okay all right but that's all I had but my main concern again is those telephone please okay all right 1138 01:40:06,860 --> 01:40:07,920 Thank you very much. 1139 01:40:08,060 --> 01:40:08,460 Sorry. 1140 01:40:09,020 --> 01:40:09,680 Anyone else? 1141 01:40:09,860 --> 01:40:10,300 Ms. Mulligan? 1142 01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:19,740 Good evening, Councilor. 1143 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:22,920 Dave Mulligan, three pundlings. 1144 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:29,740 I could start, you know, ask questions, but I've been told that we can't have a discussion. 1145 01:40:30,340 --> 01:40:34,280 Yet I'm seeing discussions taking place right here, you know. 1146 01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:34,800 All right. 1147 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,480 If we can answer the questions quickly. 1148 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:36,880 Okay. 1149 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:37,960 So maybe it will help. 1150 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,240 I mean, there's a lot of issues that are going on in this community. 1151 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:52,860 The council's job obligation to address people's concerns where they don't feel like 1152 01:40:52,860 --> 01:40:56,620 they're speaking at a blank wall and not being acknowledged. 1153 01:40:57,420 --> 01:41:03,280 There have been people come up here, take their own time to speak about rodent problems, 1154 01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,720 the RICC, all right. 1155 01:41:06,420 --> 01:41:10,760 These conversations are going on, comments have been happening for the last several months. 1156 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:17,780 and limited of zero feedback regarding the council. 1157 01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:23,920 And so the community feels like why even by the coming up here and 1158 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:30,640 expressing ourselves if we're not going to see any type of action take place or any type of direction for that. 1159 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,560 I mean, I could sit here for three minutes and talk about water all day long. 1160 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:45,480 All right, but there's so many different issues with this, with how this public speaks portion is handled and not handled, right? 1161 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:55,140 I mean, there's, you know, when you have residents talking about, you know, road infestation because of construction, and you don't have nothing else about it. 1162 01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:03,720 And you hear, you know, RIC's either rates go up, but there's no justification of what's really going on, you know. 1163 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:13,420 And, you know, and it's just it's disappointing that we don't have a more of a dialogue and more of an action, 1164 01:42:13,740 --> 01:42:21,660 you know, action-based response from the council to initiate an action anyways as opposed to, you know, we'll check into it. 1165 01:42:21,820 --> 01:42:23,160 We'll check into it means what? 1166 01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:29,640 You know, when you don't hear anything about it after the fact, it's, you know, it seems like it's just got kicked to the side. 1167 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:36,340 And in all of a sudden we're talking about spending millions of dollars on one thing or something else, but it's not 1168 01:42:36,860 --> 01:42:41,500 We're not dealing with, you know, with some of the residents even come up here to address 1169 01:42:41,500 --> 01:42:50,080 You know, I mean the community is everybody and when everybody comes up in this table, all right, you know, and voicing their concern 1170 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:58,820 They should be it should be addressed in a reasonable amount of time. You know the next need meeting maybe, you know, but to 1171 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:14,320 You know, some of these topics that I'm bringing up right now were brought up well over two months ago, all right, and we're even addressed, you know, so, but I just want to make a comment regarding the schools as a contractor, you know, the groups. 1172 01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:29,560 A lot of times the warranties that the state requires is a one year warranty unless there's something else that's written in the manufacturer may have a warranty on the product, but the time may be responsible for the labor to replace the product. 1173 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:38,840 So, but that's just something that's, but for now, that's all because I don't want to use them one by three minutes. 1174 01:43:39,420 --> 01:43:40,060 Thank you. 1175 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:42,380 Next. 1176 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,200 It's a hand before. 1177 01:43:45,860 --> 01:43:48,060 You're already walking towards Mr. Goyne. 1178 01:43:52,420 --> 01:43:53,340 Ms. Swayne will be next. 1179 01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,700 Jesse Gordon, 52 West Street. 1180 01:43:56,700 --> 01:44:02,560 I co-signed a correspondence to the town council, which I believe will be read later in the meeting. 1181 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:06,380 With four other residents, I'd like to provide the context for that correspondence. 1182 01:44:07,340 --> 01:44:11,320 The voter turnout rate for municipal elections has been about 20% in recent years. 1183 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,680 We'd like to ask the town council's help to increase voter turnout. 1184 01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:19,560 We're focusing on many people, the many people of Randolph, who work during election day, 1185 01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,920 and had to make walking absentee voting easier for them. 1186 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:27,740 And not to interrupt you. I have a response to your letter from our acting town clerk. 1187 01:44:27,740 --> 01:44:31,340 So if you want to read your letter in its entirety, you're more than welcome to. 1188 01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:32,720 I'll need three minutes. 1189 01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:34,100 That's okay. 1190 01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:43,680 So the letter says to the Randall Town Council, we're writing to request that the town clerk's office extend the hours available for absentee voting to more off 4.8 hours. 1191 01:44:44,180 --> 01:44:52,420 So many of Randall's voters work long hours out of town and we would be disenfranchised by making by being unable to get to the polls on Tuesday, November 5th. 1192 01:44:52,420 --> 01:44:59,880 because they have to miss work in order to vote. Our goal is to allow more voters to participate in the upcoming municipal election by providing easier 1193 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,440 We are absentee voting at the town clerk's office. We suggest the following schedule in addition to the regular town clerk hours of 8.30 a.m. to 4.30 p.m. on weekdays, starting on Monday, October 21st from 4.30 until 7. Saturday, October 26th from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m., Monday, October 28th until 7 p.m. and Saturday, November 2nd for the morning as well. We believe this would greatly increase the number of people voting in the municipal election. We note that in November of 2017, only about 4,500 people voted while over 20,000 people were registered to vote. 1194 01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:35,760 a turnout of 122%. That means 78% of our voters did not vote. We think that many of those 78% 1195 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,720 would vote if the town council increased absentee voting hours assigned by myself, 1196 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:45,160 Finnec Cattabua Davis, Jehovah Lopez, George Magazine, and Alafia Sikina, Richard Jumpier. 1197 01:45:45,580 --> 01:45:50,660 Okay, and I'll read this letter from Cheryl Sass, the acting town clerk and registrar, 1198 01:45:50,780 --> 01:45:55,820 which I received this evening. Dear President Adams, I'm writing in response to the letter address 1199 01:45:55,820 --> 01:46:00,780 to the Randolph-town Council dated September 5th, 2019, from the aforementioned names. 1200 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,160 The letter is somewhat misleading as two of the dates requested for extended absentee 1201 01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,480 voting are Monday evenings until 7 p.m. 1202 01:46:08,020 --> 01:46:12,820 The town clerk's office already provides the convenience of Monday night hours and absentee 1203 01:46:12,820 --> 01:46:16,660 voting until 7 p.m. and is done so for almost 20 years. 1204 01:46:17,260 --> 01:46:21,580 I've had several discussions with Mr. Gordon both in writing and in person on this matter, 1205 01:46:21,580 --> 01:46:43,020 And I was somewhat surprised to see the letter to the town council as I have advised Mr. Gordon any qualified absentee voter can in person once ballots become available mid-October or request a ballot to be mailed to them during our regular business hours Mondays 8.30 to 7 and Tuesday through Friday 8.30 to 4.30 1206 01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:51,080 Access to requesting an absentee ballot is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. 1207 01:46:51,380 --> 01:46:58,340 A voter simply requests a ballot in writing or by filling out an application, which can be obtained online or in person at the clerk's office. 1208 01:46:58,940 --> 01:47:03,500 In addition, family members may request an absentee ballot to be sent on a voter's behalf. 1209 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:08,620 Once ballots are printed and received, they will be mailed to anyone who has requested that one be sent. 1210 01:47:08,620 --> 01:47:16,280 In an email dated August 6, 2019, I stated that I may be able to offer a few hours the 1211 01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:21,080 Saturday prior to the election if staffing and workflow allow, but it's too early for 1212 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,120 me to make that determination at this time. 1213 01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:29,080 Once the absentee voting period begins, I will determine if being open on Saturday, November 1214 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,880 2, from noon to 2pm is necessary. 1215 01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:36,880 Is also extremely important to note that early voting and absentee voting are two very different 1216 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,260 things. 1217 01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:40,740 There is no early voting period for a local election. 1218 01:47:40,940 --> 01:47:47,220 Only certain state elections absentee voting is only for those who fit one of the three 1219 01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:48,880 following criteria one. 1220 01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:53,220 Voter will be out of town on election day from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m., too. 1221 01:47:53,980 --> 01:47:57,500 Voter has a disability that prevents them from voting in person or three. 1222 01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,140 Voter is prevented by religious beliefs from voting at a polling place. 1223 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:07,220 When signing the absentee ballot envelope, the voter is affirming under the penalties of 1224 01:48:07,220 --> 01:48:10,500 perjury that they are qualified to vote by absentee ballot. 1225 01:48:11,060 --> 01:48:16,200 Happy to answer any and all questions the council has, and I'm happy to assist any candidates 1226 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:21,700 or residents who may need more absentee voting, information on absentee voting. 1227 01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,840 Shall these sass acting town clerk? 1228 01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:30,000 So hopefully that answers some of the questions and somewhat of a response to you, and as noted 1229 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,920 here, she'll certainly be able to reach out to any councillors or any other candidates 1230 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,100 who may have further questions. 1231 01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:38,620 And I'm sure we can get your copy of this letter as well. 1232 01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:39,220 Sure. 1233 01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:40,960 May I do my context? 1234 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,020 Go ahead. 1235 01:48:42,020 --> 01:48:42,760 But it actually addresses. 1236 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:43,460 Now, go ahead. 1237 01:48:43,700 --> 01:48:45,000 You know, I didn't mean to talk about this. 1238 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:50,880 So the first part, yes, of course, I know that the evening hours on Monday are always available. 1239 01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:51,980 That's not an issue. 1240 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:53,540 The real issue is the Saturday hours. 1241 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:58,920 I mean, I picked those dates in question, which are after when my discussion with Ms. Sass indicated 1242 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:00,900 that it would be a sure thing that the ballots are ready. 1243 01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:05,440 That's why I started the dates on October 21st, after the mid-October date when they come 1244 01:49:05,440 --> 01:49:09,460 What I want to do with the Monday evening hours is advertise them, in other words make 1245 01:49:09,460 --> 01:49:14,420 it publicly known to everybody in town that they may go in and do their absentee voting. 1246 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,380 With regards to mail-in voting, yes, that's a separate issue. 1247 01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,740 I'm only talking about walk-in voting because that's the one that's really the most relevant 1248 01:49:20,740 --> 01:49:21,220 for people. 1249 01:49:21,340 --> 01:49:22,440 They can do everything in one step. 1250 01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,080 If you do it by mail, you have to do two steps. 1251 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,780 You have to mail in the application, get a response, and then mail in the absentee issue. 1252 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,480 That's not what the ask is of the town council. 1253 01:49:31,480 --> 01:49:37,000 So the ask is to set up certain hours that are known in advance so that we can publicize 1254 01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:37,580 those hours. 1255 01:49:37,980 --> 01:49:44,160 And with regards to the issue of the criteria for absentee voting in her criteria, I'm 1256 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:45,640 only talking about criteria number one. 1257 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:51,020 So the typical example is that let's say you're a voter who takes the 728 train to work and 1258 01:49:51,020 --> 01:49:56,120 takes the train home to arrive at the station at 717 PM, that puts you out of the possibility 1259 01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,540 of during your normal work day being able to vote at the polls. 1260 01:50:00,540 --> 01:50:05,520 That's the situation in criteria number one, when you're unavailable on the election day that we want to address. 1261 01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:13,540 So that criteria means that you are allowed to absentee vote and that you can therefore go in as an absentee voter prior, 1262 01:50:13,980 --> 01:50:16,640 but we have to know the dates in order to be able to publicize those dates. 1263 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:22,580 And I'm and the other signers and we hope others too are very happy to do the publicity through the newspaper and 1264 01:50:22,580 --> 01:50:26,400 flyers and so on, but we need the dates decided in advance. 1265 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:31,260 this has been clear in my discussion and in her letter that it won't be decided until 1266 01:50:31,700 --> 01:50:34,560 basically the last minute, which means we can't do any advanced publicity. 1267 01:50:34,860 --> 01:50:38,360 So what we're really asking is that the dates are decided between the town council and the 1268 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,340 town clerk's office well in advance so that we can publicize it and that people can take 1269 01:50:42,340 --> 01:50:43,080 advantage of it. 1270 01:50:43,660 --> 01:50:46,780 Yes, I'm also aware of the distinction between early voting and absentee voting. 1271 01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:48,520 I think most voters aren't. 1272 01:50:48,860 --> 01:50:50,140 This is absentee voting. 1273 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,060 Early voting is the goal in fact. 1274 01:50:52,260 --> 01:50:55,480 That's what I'm trying to make one piece more like. 1275 01:50:55,480 --> 01:51:25,460 doing it that we know when you can go in and doing it in one stop is an important aspect of early voting that absentee voting doesn't do and if we have the dates in advance and can publicize it we can make walk-in absentee voting similar to early voting which is a state program not a municipal voting program I think it's everything in my all right thank you sir and then just one quick point it's I do believe it's the town clerk's decision as to when you know absentee voting or any sort of voting hours would happen 1276 01:51:25,460 --> 01:51:27,060 And Mr. Howard, am I correct on that? 1277 01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:30,920 It does not fall under the House Council being the elected body in the election. 1278 01:51:31,060 --> 01:51:34,540 I don't think it would be appropriate for you to make, make, make election related decisions. 1279 01:51:34,540 --> 01:51:36,880 So if that's your question, I would say, I would say yes. 1280 01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:38,360 That's true. 1281 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:49,300 I do anticipate that there will be a, I was available and announced in advance to the last 1282 01:51:49,300 --> 01:51:51,520 Saturday before the election. 1283 01:51:53,160 --> 01:52:16,060 I will say that in town elections, the vast majority, maybe not vast majority because I don't have statistics here, but I can tell you from my general experience, and it's 50, 50 at best, the amount of people that vote by mail versus those that walk into vote in a town election. 1284 01:52:17,140 --> 01:52:26,900 So I don't know that I think, unfortunately, and I guess maybe, and I couldn't help it, 1285 01:52:26,900 --> 01:52:31,620 I'm not the town clerk anymore, but when you hear the word disenfranchised, that has such a loaded meeting. 1286 01:52:33,420 --> 01:52:39,340 And so it's frustrating to hear that word because that's what goes on in another parts of the country. 1287 01:52:39,340 --> 01:52:44,380 That is not what happens in Massachusetts, that's not what happens in the town of Randolph. 1288 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:53,120 And so that's just when I hit that word, I got to admit it kind of gets the hair on the back of my neck a little up there. 1289 01:52:53,360 --> 01:53:06,080 Because I want to make it abundantly clear that in my time as the town clerk, we always made sure that we added additional hours for both absentee voting in person. 1290 01:53:07,260 --> 01:53:12,860 But quite frankly, a lot of times people come in, and they like being able to get the 1291 01:53:12,860 --> 01:53:16,340 ballot mail to them because they want to take more time to figure out who the candidates 1292 01:53:16,340 --> 01:53:18,120 are, who they want to vote for, whatever the case may be. 1293 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:23,180 We don't get into why voters, what their preferences are. 1294 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:29,700 Our job is to try and give them those opportunities, and everybody's got a different view on that. 1295 01:53:31,540 --> 01:53:36,440 But I do anticipate that there will be a date and time announced for 1296 01:53:36,440 --> 01:53:40,640 that last Saturday before the election. 1297 01:53:41,340 --> 01:53:44,280 As I always state, and I don't know if the letter mentioned it or not, 1298 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:51,220 the town does keep a, there are those who apply regularly those that have certain illnesses, 1299 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:58,540 or the like, those who know that they're out regularly, they fill out their absentee ballot request. 1300 01:53:58,540 --> 01:54:04,820 just literally a January of every year, so they know any ballot that comes up, special election or not they're going to get that ballot meal to them. 1301 01:54:07,180 --> 01:54:21,620 So clearly, the town clerk would make this decision, I do anticipate from my conversations with the town clerk that that Saturday, whether it's 10 to 12, 12 to 2, whatever it might be, that there will be some hours announced shortly for that. 1302 01:54:21,620 --> 01:54:29,300 And the evening hours, the Monday night hours has always allowed absentee voting during 1303 01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:31,980 those, during my tenure. 1304 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:33,860 So that would continue. 1305 01:54:37,340 --> 01:54:47,220 And I know actually this last state election, we actually received some compliments that 1306 01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:56,860 came in through other state agencies and or state groups that monitor elections in the town of Randolph because we're a majority minority community. 1307 01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,900 So they're very sensitive to the issues of disenfranchisement. 1308 01:55:00,620 --> 01:55:08,120 And when it came to the voting process in Randolph from an inactive voter on the day of the election from the beginning of the precinct to the close out of the precinct, 1309 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:14,640 Senator Warren's legal staff actually reached out to Deb and I think Debbie and 1310 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:20,180 sent an email to the council to say, we wish towns ran their elections like the town of Randolph. 1311 01:55:20,420 --> 01:55:25,940 So, I just want to make it clear that we do a good job here. 1312 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:31,180 The residents, the poll workers, the election workers, everybody down the line does a good job. 1313 01:55:31,780 --> 01:55:32,720 All right, thank you. 1314 01:55:32,980 --> 01:55:33,300 Hey, I respond. 1315 01:55:35,060 --> 01:55:35,460 Briefly. 1316 01:55:35,940 --> 01:55:36,040 Sure. 1317 01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:40,880 Certainly, knowing that the term disenfranchisement is sensitive, I won't use that term again. 1318 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,780 But as you might recall, when you were the town clerk in 2017, I had the same discussion 1319 01:55:44,780 --> 01:55:48,160 with you on Facebook using the same terminology as far as I know. 1320 01:55:48,740 --> 01:55:54,500 And the issue about that I'm referring to as disenfranchisement is addressing why is 1321 01:55:54,500 --> 01:55:58,360 it that 70% of our registered voters don't vote in municipal elections. 1322 01:55:58,900 --> 01:56:01,340 Of course, it's not legal disenfranchisement. 1323 01:56:01,460 --> 01:56:02,180 I acknowledge that. 1324 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:04,980 And I think the town of Randolph does a great job for the people who vote. 1325 01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:07,220 I'm trying to get it that there's more people who can vote. 1326 01:56:07,220 --> 01:56:09,060 and the real issue is the publicity. 1327 01:56:09,780 --> 01:56:12,000 The sooner we know the dates, the more we can publicize it. 1328 01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:15,600 I mean, what I would really like to see is a big orange light sign 1329 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,500 in Crawford Square saying you can go right now to Town Hall 1330 01:56:18,500 --> 01:56:22,060 and vote early right this minute on the Monday evenings. 1331 01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,020 Given that we're not going to do that, I want to publicize 1332 01:56:24,020 --> 01:56:26,680 that people can do that, and there are four more will. 1333 01:56:27,380 --> 01:56:30,700 I mean, my hope in particular, we do flashing boards 1334 01:56:30,700 --> 01:56:33,400 and banners, et cetera, over the years as the council knows. 1335 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,800 The fact that these meetings for the first time, 1336 01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,440 And we started live streaming them less than a year ago. 1337 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:46,880 I'm hopeful that more people who generally don't follow town of fears has started to follow town of fears. 1338 01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:48,820 So I think that's the number one issue in town elections. 1339 01:56:49,340 --> 01:56:52,720 You vote if you feel a connection to the candidates and a connection to the issues. 1340 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:59,100 And I think the fact that we don't have the local newspapers anymore, and it's not the same. 1341 01:56:59,300 --> 01:57:05,080 I mean, we used to have two local papers, sometimes three stories a day, I don't mean the coverage of the meetings. 1342 01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:12,260 I'm talking every day you get the legend in the enterprise and there be two to three Randolph stories local in the paper every day 1343 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:17,740 Those days along gone. So that's why we made that jump to Facebook live 1344 01:57:17,740 --> 01:57:25,200 So when people jump on to Facebook for other purposes this meeting pops up and they can choose to click off it or not, but 1345 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:27,280 Hopefully that has an impact 1346 01:57:28,380 --> 01:57:30,460 Hopefully that has a positive impact in turn 1347 01:57:31,740 --> 01:57:35,540 Just quickly, I mean, thank you for coming in front of us. 1348 01:57:35,740 --> 01:57:41,560 I think this always improvement is a large percentage of residents who are not voting. 1349 01:57:42,580 --> 01:57:44,820 And I think, we do it, we do do it. 1350 01:57:44,900 --> 01:57:46,240 We do an awesome job here. 1351 01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:50,600 And I think Brian, you have put lots of energy to make sure that we have the volunteers, 1352 01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:58,360 that we have a policy, that we have the structure that will help residents. 1353 01:58:01,340 --> 01:58:07,880 understand that they're voting rights and make sure that people are in place. 1354 01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:13,120 However, I also think that there's room to grow and 1355 01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:18,300 there's still a large population out there of individuals who are not voting. 1356 01:58:18,860 --> 01:58:27,520 So how can we get, and that's a continue action of how to get more voters interested. 1357 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,520 that hopefully these meetings being streamed, 1358 01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:33,140 but not everyone has the internet 1359 01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,000 and sometimes people who do have internet 1360 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,520 and they are not quite, you know, 1361 01:58:39,660 --> 01:58:41,100 and English not their first link, 1362 01:58:41,140 --> 01:58:44,100 which is a number of different reasons 1363 01:58:44,100 --> 01:58:48,200 why folks may not be able to vote. 1364 01:58:48,940 --> 01:58:50,820 So there's always room to crawl. 1365 01:58:52,140 --> 01:58:53,160 Thank you, Mr. Gordon. 1366 01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:53,980 So have a good evening. 1367 01:58:54,940 --> 01:58:55,240 Miss Wayne? 1368 01:59:02,500 --> 01:59:06,180 So for those that don't know me, my name is Sharon Swain, now we've been in town since 1369 01:59:06,180 --> 01:59:06,860 1997. 1370 01:59:06,940 --> 01:59:14,320 I've probably volunteered in various capacities for the last 20 years, anyway, from husband 1371 01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:21,000 and I, my kids, from Cubscouts, and most people know me in the vein of the music department, 1372 01:59:21,220 --> 01:59:23,360 which is what brings me here tonight. 1373 01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:28,180 So Saturday, we are having a marching band competition. 1374 01:59:28,180 --> 01:59:44,140 There are eight towns coming here plus our own blue devils, and we are in dire need of volunteers, and I have our little sign-up genius here, I'm hoping that CTV can catch it with the link to where you can sign up. 1375 01:59:44,620 --> 01:59:53,840 And if you can't get to that, you're more than welcome to get a hold of us on Randolph Boosters at Yahoo.com. Mr. Burgess is our announcer. 1376 01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:58,660 Mr. Howard is going to be doing some speaking, so now he's going to be doing some speaking. 1377 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,480 Yeah, looking mainly, it takes about 40, 50 volunteers to pull this off. 1378 02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:13,380 Sure. I think when I went on that to a registry, even though I had already talked to you guys, it limits you to, you have to pick something. 1379 02:00:13,620 --> 02:00:18,280 And if you don't know anything about band competition, the chemical competitions, you don't know what those are. 1380 02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:24,640 So if people want to volunteer in just, you know, you'll find a home for them, let them know. 1381 02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:29,920 Absolutely. And it's, you know, you don't have, you don't know how to have to read music. 1382 02:00:30,700 --> 02:00:32,300 It's things like... 1383 02:00:32,300 --> 02:00:33,800 So we don't have volunteer performers. 1384 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:34,120 Correct. 1385 02:00:34,940 --> 02:00:41,080 And if you, you know, it is an election year, so I would highly recommend that you all come down and volunteer as well as people can get you. 1386 02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:45,540 So Jim is volunteering for us, and Andrew is volunteering for us. 1387 02:00:47,020 --> 02:00:48,720 It's such simple things. 1388 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:53,420 It's, so these buses arrive, and they all have to get off the buses, the kids, and most 1389 02:00:53,420 --> 02:00:57,820 of them have at least two buses per band, and we stamp their hands so that when the 1390 02:00:57,820 --> 02:01:00,660 kids change out of uniform, they can want to go watch the rest of the bands. 1391 02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,380 They know their performers, and they don't have to pay the entrance fee. 1392 02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:09,120 It's, we have to have some place to park these things, and most of the time it's going 1393 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:13,900 to be in the admin parking lot, so can you, you know, get a bus to line up this way and 1394 02:01:13,900 --> 02:01:16,720 not this way, it's those kinds of things. 1395 02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:21,820 so it's very simple. We like to have the high school kids be the band 1396 02:01:21,820 --> 02:01:26,420 greeters for the most part because they know the insides of the high school 1397 02:01:26,420 --> 02:01:29,120 building and they know we had a point people in the direction of bathrooms and 1398 02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:35,820 and things like that. They are also. So the events five to eight thirty but you 1399 02:01:35,820 --> 02:01:38,660 don't need some one five to eight thirty. You could have someone for an hour 1400 02:01:38,660 --> 02:01:42,320 talking buses at five o'clock or four thirty. Yeah because the bands don't 1401 02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:45,520 all because they perform at different times the different intervals they don't 1402 02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:49,280 all come in at the same time. So if you have a band performing at 730, they might show 1403 02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:53,860 up at 630 because then normally they are an hour before hand. So the first band shows 1404 02:01:53,860 --> 02:02:01,580 up at 5. We're probably going to tell those early people to be there at 330. And we like 1405 02:02:01,580 --> 02:02:09,320 to do things like have a couple of concession stations. So we'll do, you know, candy and 1406 02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:10,300 so they're at one. 1407 02:02:10,540 --> 02:02:11,540 So people don't have to wait. 1408 02:02:11,860 --> 02:02:14,880 It's just a lot of directing of people. 1409 02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,900 Unlike a sporting event, band competitions, 1410 02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:20,980 people don't walk around while people are performing. 1411 02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:24,360 So it's holding people up at the STI case. 1412 02:02:26,260 --> 02:02:28,300 And that band stops performing 1413 02:02:28,300 --> 02:02:29,680 so that they can get back to the seat. 1414 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,700 So there's a lot of movement with the pits, 1415 02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:35,920 the front-end ensembles, with all the marimba's 1416 02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:36,940 and all that sort of thing. 1417 02:02:36,940 --> 02:02:39,920 and they usually come in from the side of the field. 1418 02:02:40,180 --> 02:02:41,080 It's guarantee people sharing. 1419 02:02:41,500 --> 02:02:41,620 I know. 1420 02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:43,880 So it is. 1421 02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:46,800 It's just a lot of holding up of people 1422 02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:51,310 selling the concessions. 1423 02:02:52,090 --> 02:02:56,010 And what we also like to do is this is Randolph's time 1424 02:02:56,010 --> 02:02:58,790 to shine as far as our hospitality. 1425 02:02:59,410 --> 02:03:00,790 We show it off in our food. 1426 02:03:01,910 --> 02:03:04,170 So we'll take donations of anything. 1427 02:03:04,170 --> 02:03:12,610 the same disclosure is graciously donating patties, I believe, so it's, you know, we're 1428 02:03:12,610 --> 02:03:17,050 trying to get the transportation department involved. We're trying to get the food services 1429 02:03:17,050 --> 02:03:22,450 NYCA from high school is one of our courts. So the hot stuff is done. The rest of it is 1430 02:03:22,450 --> 02:03:27,410 just having a lot of bodies to facilitate this and keep it moving. 1431 02:03:28,130 --> 02:03:32,290 So is there an email that someone you can give to somebody if they want to give an hour 1432 02:03:32,290 --> 02:03:33,950 of their time, but two hours of their time. 1433 02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:37,970 So you can email us at Randolph Boostes at Yahoo.com. 1434 02:03:39,070 --> 02:03:43,850 The sign up genius had, you know, just go with Randolph Boostes. 1435 02:03:43,950 --> 02:03:44,650 I did the little one. 1436 02:03:45,230 --> 02:03:48,930 And I also, I also gave it to our CTV. 1437 02:03:49,750 --> 02:03:54,930 If you have a church group of kids that wants to come, if you have, you know, we were trying 1438 02:03:54,930 --> 02:04:00,270 to get the teams involved, but we are really hurting and we need, we need a whole bunch 1439 02:04:00,270 --> 02:04:00,770 of volunteers. 1440 02:04:00,770 --> 02:04:03,790 is. Councilor Flemont. Will students receive 1441 02:04:03,790 --> 02:04:06,270 community hours? Absolutely. Community service hours are 1442 02:04:06,270 --> 02:04:08,890 revealed. I would probably get I would say a minimum of five if 1443 02:04:08,890 --> 02:04:12,810 they work the whole event. Okay. We had the football team, but 1444 02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:16,690 they had to reschedule the game. So we won't have them in the 1445 02:04:16,690 --> 02:04:21,610 Chalios. But it's a great it's a great event. If you don't know 1446 02:04:21,610 --> 02:04:23,950 the activity, it's a great way to learn about the activity we 1447 02:04:23,950 --> 02:04:26,290 encourage, you know, the elementary band parents, the middle 1448 02:04:26,290 --> 02:04:28,050 school band parents, your kids are going to be doing this 1449 02:04:28,050 --> 02:04:36,250 eventually and you know it would be you don't know what you don't know so and if 1450 02:04:36,250 --> 02:04:39,350 you can't volunteer just please come out and support our kids because they 1451 02:04:39,350 --> 02:04:43,390 do what time are our kids going out there do you know what time are our kids 1452 02:04:43,390 --> 02:04:50,210 performing I don't have the schedule so look on the NESBA site they'll be 1453 02:04:50,210 --> 02:04:52,990 later because they're one of the larger divisions they start with the smaller 1454 02:04:52,990 --> 02:04:57,630 divisions dot with this coming with the two tractor trailers and and you know 1455 02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:03,390 probably four buses there I'd be our largest one. So we hope you come out. Do you have a flyer or a line? 1456 02:05:04,450 --> 02:05:09,830 Yeah, I could download that and send it out. Yep, absolutely. I'm sure we might be able to put on 1457 02:05:09,830 --> 02:05:14,810 the town website as well. Yeah, thank you. Yep, I'm sorry. We might be able to get on the town website as well. 1458 02:05:15,230 --> 02:05:18,330 That would be fantastic. So appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sharon. 1459 02:05:18,590 --> 02:05:20,830 Thank you, Sharon. Thank you, Sharon. This travel evening. 1460 02:05:25,030 --> 02:05:28,430 You know my aunts in that I couldn't pronounce her name as a kid so she was always on 1461 02:05:28,430 --> 02:05:28,870 net. 1462 02:05:31,290 --> 02:05:35,330 I'm did not try to get a direct contact with Randolph Chamber and that's why I'm here 1463 02:05:35,330 --> 02:05:37,310 tonight to talk about the Chamber just a little bit. 1464 02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:43,270 I've had this job now for four months and I know that you all or I know that we send you 1465 02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:49,510 all information about the Chamber and I'm here looking for your support as well. 1466 02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:54,890 So Sharon looking for your support and support doesn't mean that you have to come to every 1467 02:05:54,890 --> 02:05:57,430 event or you have to come to any event. 1468 02:05:57,950 --> 02:06:02,330 Support means talk about what we do for the chamber, talk about what we do in businesses, 1469 02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:03,590 and send somebody. 1470 02:06:03,730 --> 02:06:07,030 Maybe somebody you know would be interested in something and you may want to send them. 1471 02:06:07,930 --> 02:06:13,850 For example, we are having a leadership program this Thursday, a very well-known business 1472 02:06:13,850 --> 02:06:16,750 this coach is coming and she's going to speak on progressive leadership. 1473 02:06:17,490 --> 02:06:21,110 And that will include diversity, that will include inclusion. 1474 02:06:21,730 --> 02:06:25,390 And that will include the third which is my very favorite and that is kindness. 1475 02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:27,870 And so she's going to speak all about that. 1476 02:06:28,650 --> 02:06:35,270 So I went over to the chiefs and I said to the chiefs especially to chief pace, you've promoted 1477 02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:36,570 some of your police officers. 1478 02:06:37,190 --> 02:06:41,890 Do you have some other people that are like emerging leaders that might benefit from this program? 1479 02:06:42,390 --> 02:06:44,050 And he said, how many can I send? 1480 02:06:44,630 --> 02:06:46,670 I offer that to the fire chief as well. 1481 02:06:47,230 --> 02:06:49,110 I offer that to Brian when we had a discussion. 1482 02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:51,750 So it's from 8 to 10 on Thursday, 1483 02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:53,590 and if any of you would like to come to it, 1484 02:06:53,630 --> 02:06:54,350 would love to have it. 1485 02:06:55,010 --> 02:06:57,950 Next week after that, on September 17, 1486 02:06:58,610 --> 02:07:00,910 our own new town name, Manager Brian Howard, 1487 02:07:01,070 --> 02:07:02,430 will be speaking on the state of the town. 1488 02:07:02,810 --> 02:07:05,090 That is something that the Chamber does every single year. 1489 02:07:06,010 --> 02:07:08,010 Also, I was reached out to by, 1490 02:07:08,190 --> 02:07:09,190 is that incorrect English? 1491 02:07:09,190 --> 02:07:16,370 First, Commander John Hambelberg reached out to me to ask me if we would put on a program called Crazed, you know, that program is. 1492 02:07:16,770 --> 02:07:20,170 It's a citizens response to a shooting event. 1493 02:07:20,650 --> 02:07:24,590 Unfortunately, it's not, if it ever happens, it could be when it would happen. 1494 02:07:25,130 --> 02:07:31,450 So he is going to come and speak on that on the 19th, which is a week from Thursday, I believe, five of my dates, right? 1495 02:07:31,950 --> 02:07:37,670 So I would ask you perhaps that you would talk among the community, I know that we support businesses, but 1496 02:07:37,670 --> 02:07:41,450 But this is something that the community probably would enjoy coming to as well, just to 1497 02:07:41,450 --> 02:07:42,070 learn about it. 1498 02:07:43,310 --> 02:07:50,050 And then one other thing I would like to speak about is an event on the manufacturing. 1499 02:07:50,730 --> 02:07:55,990 And I don't know if you knew this, the third largest town in the South Shore of manufacturers. 1500 02:07:56,990 --> 02:08:02,270 So I have reached out to a flood in the area, Doug Mean is coming. 1501 02:08:02,790 --> 02:08:06,470 He does a spot on Channel 5 called the manufacturing and Massachusetts. 1502 02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:12,110 He's going to come and talk a little bit about what's going on in manufacturing a Massachusetts. 1503 02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:17,430 But most importantly, we will have a panel of manufacturers from Randolph that he will talk about and discuss. 1504 02:08:18,830 --> 02:08:23,950 He's very well spoken. He's an anchor in the morning. Somebody said they watch Channel 5 in the morning. He's on Channel 5 in the morning. 1505 02:08:24,670 --> 02:08:30,590 I would ask you to spread the word about this. We are having it at Lombardos. It's a big step for the new executive director to do. 1506 02:08:30,750 --> 02:08:33,650 So I would look for your support in this. 1507 02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:46,110 There's a fee. Yes. Lunch in at Lombardos. Yes. So we are not in the business of not raising money because we have to raise money. So yes, there's a fee for that. 1508 02:08:46,330 --> 02:08:46,710 Date and time. 1509 02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:51,070 The date and time. Is that what you said? Yes. October 3. 1510 02:08:52,230 --> 02:08:52,950 That's a busy date. 1511 02:08:53,570 --> 02:08:57,790 That's not a good date. I know it's not a good date because there's something else happening in town from 10 to 12. 1512 02:08:57,790 --> 02:09:02,430 Well, ours is from 12 to 2, so I would ask that if you know anybody that's interested 1513 02:09:02,430 --> 02:09:02,870 in me at a time. 1514 02:09:02,870 --> 02:09:03,550 How much is it? 1515 02:09:03,970 --> 02:09:04,510 Excuse me? 1516 02:09:04,590 --> 02:09:05,370 How much is it? 1517 02:09:05,590 --> 02:09:06,210 It's $35. 1518 02:09:07,050 --> 02:09:10,730 And it's $45 for nonmembers, but of course, but you people would be $35. 1519 02:09:10,890 --> 02:09:12,650 Can I get an obligation do they go and remember? 1520 02:09:13,250 --> 02:09:13,610 Absolutely. 1521 02:09:13,970 --> 02:09:14,090 I will. 1522 02:09:14,270 --> 02:09:15,510 You want to have one with me. 1523 02:09:15,890 --> 02:09:17,370 I don't want to take up a lot more of your time. 1524 02:09:17,570 --> 02:09:21,410 If there's some things that I spoke about that you want to know about, please contact me. 1525 02:09:21,530 --> 02:09:21,670 Yes. 1526 02:09:22,190 --> 02:09:22,430 Good to go. 1527 02:09:22,750 --> 02:09:23,430 Hold on, Councillor. 1528 02:09:23,650 --> 02:09:24,110 Oh, I'm sorry. 1529 02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:24,550 Thanks. 1530 02:09:24,550 --> 02:09:25,730 I have a quick question. 1531 02:09:25,870 --> 02:09:26,030 Sure. 1532 02:09:26,630 --> 02:09:29,490 I've been in touch with the small business administration. 1533 02:09:29,730 --> 02:09:29,870 Yes. 1534 02:09:30,430 --> 02:09:34,470 And they're very much interested in having a workshop 1535 02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:35,910 for small and micro businesses. 1536 02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:36,630 That's correct. 1537 02:09:37,310 --> 02:09:41,330 Would you be interested in partnering and helping 1538 02:09:41,330 --> 02:09:43,370 to organize such event? 1539 02:09:43,710 --> 02:09:44,070 Absolutely. 1540 02:09:44,730 --> 02:09:46,630 And they'll be a representative from the SBA 1541 02:09:46,630 --> 02:09:50,750 who specifies, who specifically points in self 1542 02:09:50,750 --> 02:09:52,690 toward manufacturing at this event as well. 1543 02:09:52,710 --> 02:09:53,550 But this is not a manufacturer. 1544 02:09:53,730 --> 02:09:54,210 This is a... 1545 02:09:54,210 --> 02:09:55,110 I understand that. 1546 02:09:55,530 --> 02:09:57,990 This is the Small Business Association, right? 1547 02:09:58,570 --> 02:09:58,810 That's correct. 1548 02:09:58,810 --> 02:10:03,390 And things like capital, marketing, and so on. 1549 02:10:03,770 --> 02:10:04,050 That's right. 1550 02:10:04,370 --> 02:10:07,370 So it's just been four months, and I have a whole lot of things 1551 02:10:07,370 --> 02:10:08,550 that I don't want to put too much in you, 1552 02:10:08,630 --> 02:10:11,530 but you said that if you have any initiative, 1553 02:10:11,610 --> 02:10:12,630 you could come to use them. 1554 02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:14,470 Yes, please, that would be great. 1555 02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:16,870 And one more thing I will talk to you about is 1556 02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:18,710 we're putting a program in the high school 1557 02:10:18,710 --> 02:10:19,770 called Leaders on the Rise. 1558 02:10:20,530 --> 02:10:22,970 And it's for boys, young men, and young women. 1559 02:10:22,970 --> 02:10:24,870 15 young men and young women. 1560 02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:30,450 It'll be once a month for six months, so that's six sessions. 1561 02:10:31,130 --> 02:10:32,410 We will do it at lunchtime. 1562 02:10:32,590 --> 02:10:34,790 Dr. Cunard has been wonderful about supporting it. 1563 02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:39,330 One of the council's, one of the guidance council's came and asked about a program like that 1564 02:10:39,330 --> 02:10:41,470 and I said I've done those before, yes, let's do it. 1565 02:10:42,130 --> 02:10:46,610 And we actually have a credit union in town that's stepped up to the plate and has given us 1566 02:10:46,610 --> 02:10:47,870 $3,000 to run the program. 1567 02:10:48,150 --> 02:10:49,310 So that's wonderful. 1568 02:10:49,650 --> 02:10:52,470 Yes, the REH credit union which is the municipal credit union. 1569 02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:54,450 and so please support them. 1570 02:10:55,270 --> 02:10:56,550 And that is all I have to say. 1571 02:10:56,690 --> 02:10:57,410 Yeah, yeah. 1572 02:10:58,050 --> 02:11:05,390 There's a program for women that we instituted in the chamber. 1573 02:11:05,670 --> 02:11:05,930 Yes. 1574 02:11:06,210 --> 02:11:07,230 Women's business round table. 1575 02:11:07,330 --> 02:11:07,510 Yes. 1576 02:11:07,810 --> 02:11:07,910 Yes. 1577 02:11:08,110 --> 02:11:10,170 In fact, they're the ones that are sponsoring the leaders 1578 02:11:10,170 --> 02:11:10,990 on the rise program. 1579 02:11:11,190 --> 02:11:12,750 And they're also sponsoring health fair. 1580 02:11:13,530 --> 02:11:15,250 And all women are invited to come. 1581 02:11:16,190 --> 02:11:16,890 Can I keep your flyers? 1582 02:11:17,770 --> 02:11:18,630 Can I keep your flyers? 1583 02:11:19,650 --> 02:11:19,710 Can I keep your flyers? 1584 02:11:19,710 --> 02:11:19,870 I'm sorry. 1585 02:11:20,210 --> 02:11:21,290 Can I keep your flyers? 1586 02:11:21,290 --> 02:11:25,130 Yes, please. That would be awesome. I would appreciate that. Thank you. 1587 02:11:25,410 --> 02:11:29,270 And if there are any business owners watching right now, you know, the chamber has really 1588 02:11:29,270 --> 02:11:32,590 been revitalized under Jeanette's leadership. So thank you. 1589 02:11:32,750 --> 02:11:33,670 Give it the base, Kedule. 1590 02:11:34,070 --> 02:11:35,870 Give it the base, Kedule. 1591 02:11:36,950 --> 02:11:37,910 The base. 1592 02:11:38,350 --> 02:11:39,110 The base schedule. 1593 02:11:39,670 --> 02:11:41,750 I will be moderating the political debates this year. 1594 02:11:42,250 --> 02:11:44,050 And I do not have the schedule yet. 1595 02:11:44,050 --> 02:11:53,290 And I also will be filming that wonderful set on Saturday night. 1596 02:11:58,610 --> 02:11:59,570 Thank you. 1597 02:11:59,970 --> 02:12:01,090 Thank you, Janet. 1598 02:12:01,510 --> 02:12:03,070 Mr. Magazine, you've been waiting for a while. 1599 02:12:05,530 --> 02:12:06,250 Hello, everyone. 1600 02:12:06,590 --> 02:12:08,570 George Magazine, 17 Hillsdale Road. 1601 02:12:09,450 --> 02:12:10,590 How are you, Mr. Howell? 1602 02:12:10,790 --> 02:12:11,270 Good. 1603 02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:11,890 You're all ready. 1604 02:12:11,890 --> 02:12:21,250 I see we got a football game, no sorry, direction, a band coming, right? 1605 02:12:22,030 --> 02:12:28,210 We set with triple week, and we got to spray here done yet, for all these kids coming out 1606 02:12:28,210 --> 02:12:29,370 before that happens. 1607 02:12:30,110 --> 02:12:31,250 Do we know about that in this document? 1608 02:12:32,150 --> 02:12:36,650 I know that our spraying day is Wednesdays with no full county. 1609 02:12:37,210 --> 02:12:40,330 We can certainly request additional sprays to that. 1610 02:12:40,330 --> 02:12:42,410 get that spray before we have anything. 1611 02:12:42,750 --> 02:12:44,390 Well, these kids, yeah, they've been on a concert 1612 02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:46,350 at least three times in the past couple. 1613 02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:48,490 They've been, I will say that the Norfolk County 1614 02:12:49,570 --> 02:12:52,590 Skeetal Control Group has been a very responsive. 1615 02:12:52,630 --> 02:12:53,750 They're always responsive anyway, 1616 02:12:53,890 --> 02:12:55,310 but they've been very excellent. 1617 02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:57,230 Now, I got a surprise for you all today. 1618 02:12:57,790 --> 02:12:59,750 Now, the last time I was here, 1619 02:13:00,510 --> 02:13:02,790 I know three councilmen's was not present. 1620 02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:05,250 I was wondering, was y'all having something 1621 02:13:05,250 --> 02:13:08,050 that we didn't know about, was that, 1622 02:13:08,050 --> 02:13:12,870 Because I know the rest of council wasn't there, but anyway, I ain't gonna bother y'all the bulk dad 1623 02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:15,330 But was you at the point? No, but that day 1624 02:13:15,930 --> 02:13:20,050 Was you real busy that day the last one? How about you, sir? 1625 02:13:21,570 --> 02:13:30,570 I'm on okay, but let's leave it alone because I know you are in junior. I mean just new freshmen and I don't want you to have no bad 1626 02:13:32,710 --> 02:13:36,570 Blood coming up up up up there. You know, I want everybody to be fair 1627 02:13:36,570 --> 02:13:43,350 So you I thought y'all would be here for that resolution so we could maybe one of you all could have bought it back up out of the four 1628 02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:48,070 But that didn't happen because three was out so we couldn't bring that back up 1629 02:13:48,610 --> 02:13:53,690 So I was kind of wondering what what really happened that day, but anyway, that's another problem 1630 02:13:54,150 --> 02:13:57,890 I hope that doesn't happen again because this is a violent Charlie work 1631 02:13:59,090 --> 02:14:02,410 Now I was here so I'm gonna bring this back up because y'all wasn't here 1632 02:14:02,410 --> 02:14:08,650 So, with that being said, when I was here, I had a petition that I was trying to see 1633 02:14:08,650 --> 02:14:17,190 if we can get our charter law change for this one says, town, council, at large, and 1634 02:14:17,190 --> 02:14:19,030 council, turn limits. 1635 02:14:19,690 --> 02:14:24,450 I want to ask the public to start looking at it, if we can start talking about turn limits 1636 02:14:24,850 --> 02:14:30,930 for council because I said the last time my kids are so little and they said they see you 1637 02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:31,490 all up here. 1638 02:14:31,490 --> 02:14:36,770 And I'm kind of like hey listen, I hope that doesn't keep going on and that's in a lot 1639 02:14:36,770 --> 02:14:43,690 of departments planning and I've never seen and Boston or nowhere where you had a family 1640 02:14:43,690 --> 02:14:48,990 working in everywhere, scatting, you know, four people on council, two brothers, two sisters, 1641 02:14:49,010 --> 02:14:54,490 two cousins, I mean Jesus, and you got family on all kinds of plans and people can't get 1642 02:14:54,490 --> 02:14:54,910 jobs. 1643 02:14:55,870 --> 02:14:59,070 You can get some room for where other people can start doing things in the town. 1644 02:14:59,550 --> 02:14:59,970 That's the only way... 1645 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,420 We're going to get ahead. Randolph is 20 years behind, maybe 30. You see, we got a water problem, 1646 02:15:06,700 --> 02:15:11,920 we got a school problem, right, and you're playing with people's lives, and we got to stop it. 1647 02:15:12,740 --> 02:15:20,740 Let's turn this into a city. Let Mr. Howard be our mayor, right? No, we need to change this 1648 02:15:20,740 --> 02:15:25,620 stuff. And let's get some Charlie Baker to get some assistance in this town, because we 1649 02:15:25,620 --> 02:15:29,840 We can't keep being broke, the town is broke, we keep patching up a lot of things. 1650 02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:33,220 The one, we got four things that's broken, right? 1651 02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:38,660 This doesn't work, that doesn't work, the pump doesn't work, the legs doesn't work, 1652 02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:39,680 it's like a bottom, right? 1653 02:15:40,140 --> 02:15:43,900 Now after that, put all that money in, who's going to take all the scrap? 1654 02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:45,360 Where's that money coming back to? 1655 02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:50,820 You know when you take this stuff apart, who's going to be responsible or any money we get 1656 02:15:50,820 --> 02:15:51,400 back for that? 1657 02:15:58,060 --> 02:16:01,340 I'm not officially on the joint water board but I'm certainly happy to ask the question. 1658 02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:06,100 So do we know about any money, kit back of the stuff that we've put in all the money 1659 02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:08,780 up until now that we invested in it? 1660 02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:09,880 You know who? 1661 02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:13,720 Or do we rent it out to someone else that might need it? 1662 02:16:13,880 --> 02:16:14,380 Which thing? 1663 02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:15,380 The water trigger? 1664 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:16,140 Yeah, yeah. 1665 02:16:16,380 --> 02:16:19,900 No, you know when you take away all the pots and everything, you know what I mean? 1666 02:16:19,900 --> 02:16:26,900 So we got a lot of things if we know somebody in the town ain't doing the right thing 1667 02:16:26,900 --> 02:16:30,320 So we need to start doing like Spike Lisa. Let's do the right thing 1668 02:16:30,900 --> 02:16:33,960 Have a good day. Oh, and if you see us outside 1669 02:16:34,680 --> 02:16:36,920 Doing the signs I'm gonna have these all 1670 02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:45,320 If they want to sign the petitions you'll see me out there with my jersey on, okay? 1671 02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:51,180 So I'm hoping that the residents pay attention and let's stop doing some term limits 1672 02:16:51,180 --> 02:16:59,320 I love I like you Jimmy you've been here since I was a little kid. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. I like you, sir 1673 02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:04,140 You're very wonderful. I like you and your son and when I first came here 1674 02:17:05,820 --> 02:17:08,620 It didn't have that but it looks beautiful now 1675 02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:13,420 I want to be like you, three minutes is over, everybody have a good day. 1676 02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:13,900 Thank you. 1677 02:17:14,140 --> 02:17:18,240 George Magazine, voters, let's do the right thing, term limits. 1678 02:17:18,620 --> 02:17:20,440 And let's start talking about a city. 1679 02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:24,620 We've got to start sharing information, or we're not going to make it this time, 1680 02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:25,860 ain't going to go ahead. 1681 02:17:26,540 --> 02:17:28,780 Quincey just got a new train station. 1682 02:17:29,180 --> 02:17:30,500 We are following way behind. 1683 02:17:31,540 --> 02:17:32,580 We need to change. 1684 02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:34,320 Thank you, George. 1685 02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:35,920 Thank you. 1686 02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:38,920 Anyone want to follow that up, Shelley? 1687 02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:45,920 And I will say just quickly, Mr. Magazine, we do have a charter review subcommittee, and we'll have a charter commission. 1688 02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:50,080 And I'm sure that'll be a subject that will be discussed in the term limits. 1689 02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:51,700 Thank you, sir, thank you for listening. 1690 02:17:53,300 --> 02:17:58,940 Happy Monday, Council of Minimums, Rochelle Gentian from 22 Gloria Road, Randolph, Massachusetts. 1691 02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:04,440 I just wanted to make a quick announcement about the RPS supply drive that was held yesterday. 1692 02:18:05,020 --> 02:18:11,900 At the RICC, we raised a lot of donations and I just want to thank the organizations that 1693 02:18:11,900 --> 02:18:19,200 were part of the event, such as Motivation Church, Stage's fan studio, as well as Autism 1694 02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:23,540 and Sprinter and we also want to thank the Randolph Intergenerational Community Center 1695 02:18:23,540 --> 02:18:30,060 for allowing us to use their space and we are very excited for these donations to be placed 1696 02:18:30,060 --> 02:18:36,220 in Randolph Public School classrooms. So thank you. Thank you. And the cheese was delicious. 1697 02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:41,220 Oh wait, cheese was great. Anyone else wishing to speak? 1698 02:18:41,220 --> 02:18:42,240 shouldn't sweet. 1699 02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:50,880 Newly in Newton, Wall Street. There's a couple of comments on the water. 1700 02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:55,860 Let's see, everyone's water heater system has a phone number on it. They haven't 1701 02:18:55,860 --> 02:19:00,180 troubled that. You can contact whoever installed it. This is for the residents mostly. 1702 02:19:01,880 --> 02:19:08,800 Someone had mentioned the cooking or the water quality. To get the best water 1703 02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:15,740 quality for making coffee, cooking, rice, boil on anything, you should use cold water. 1704 02:19:16,540 --> 02:19:21,620 The coldest water possible, like you said, you might have to wait 20 seconds to get through 1705 02:19:21,620 --> 02:19:22,300 the air and whatever. 1706 02:19:22,800 --> 02:19:25,060 We should always be using cold water for cooking. 1707 02:19:28,780 --> 02:19:32,460 Some sort of notification when the work is happening, I think that's a great idea. 1708 02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:41,200 very necessary to avoid any kind of confusion or complaints used in social media maybe 1709 02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:46,940 or we also have the water restriction signs something like that somewhere to post something 1710 02:19:46,940 --> 02:19:50,860 very visible to people to know when the work's going on they might lose water pressure it 1711 02:19:50,860 --> 02:19:51,300 might be dirty. 1712 02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:58,680 And also I was curious, not a question that has to be answered now but about testing the water 1713 02:19:58,680 --> 02:19:59,260 as we go. 1714 02:19:59,260 --> 02:20:27,640 I don't know if that's something that's going to be done, or just as long as everyone knows that you can get a water test and get for free, I think in most like hardware stores, if anyone's really concerned, and also if there is a problem, maybe somebody to get people water filters if they're continuing to have problems or the work is taking along with them planned and that's pretty much it. Thank you. 1715 02:20:28,260 --> 02:20:30,340 Were we in a youth group like this? 1716 02:20:32,780 --> 02:20:34,480 That's a lot of notes in one hand. 1717 02:20:37,080 --> 02:20:39,760 Any other public comments? 1718 02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:41,560 Second time? 1719 02:20:42,940 --> 02:20:44,100 Third and final? 1720 02:20:44,680 --> 02:20:46,020 There's Gary at your own equal time. 1721 02:20:47,540 --> 02:20:49,940 All right. That portion is closed. Thank you so much. 1722 02:20:53,580 --> 02:20:56,800 Next up, we've got town managers report. Mr. Howard. 1723 02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:57,700 All right, 1724 02:20:59,820 --> 02:21:04,740 I will keep it somewhat brief. 1725 02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:11,400 I did Sharon already spoke to it, but I did have the information for the Randolph Martian being competition. 1726 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:17,360 We'll also make sure that we put it on the Facebook page. 1727 02:21:17,360 --> 02:21:24,780 People can click and write on it and see if they're in a situation to the voluntary or any hours to support that event. 1728 02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:26,640 Make it a little bit easier if we can. 1729 02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:33,700 And I very much appreciate the Randolph-Band Program in the time of Randolph. 1730 02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:40,400 Just a reminder, community workshop sponsored by the Randolph-Free Development Authority. 1731 02:21:40,620 --> 02:21:43,280 They've been doing a heck of a lot of advertising on this. 1732 02:21:43,360 --> 02:21:50,300 But this is this Saturday from 9 to 11.45 AM at the Randolph Community Center. 1733 02:21:51,500 --> 02:21:54,680 Specifically, this is to learn about the revitalization plan and 1734 02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:57,880 process and craft a vision for the future of the Croft Square business district. 1735 02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:02,420 If this is something you're interested in at all, this is well worth tending. 1736 02:22:03,460 --> 02:22:07,660 So hopefully, a number of residents will be able to come this Saturday. 1737 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:11,260 So in the morning, you can go to this afternoon, you can help with the marching band. 1738 02:22:11,960 --> 02:22:13,980 Be a good day in the Randall. 1739 02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:23,860 Also, I just want to note that there is a horseshoe invitational tournament on September 21st, 1740 02:22:23,860 --> 02:22:29,180 2019, this is going to be held at the INVET's post-51 POWMIA. 1741 02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:31,280 It's the first annual Maureen Dunn. 1742 02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:39,280 Everybody in Randolph certainly knows Maureen's connections to the POWMIA movement, 1743 02:22:39,540 --> 02:22:43,980 the chair, and the dedication that took place here at Town Hall. 1744 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:47,240 And we have a remembrance downstairs in the lobby. 1745 02:22:47,680 --> 02:22:52,320 So they're doing something here to try and raise some additional money and do some real positive things. 1746 02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:56,940 And so it starts at 2 p.m., Saturday, September 21st, 1747 02:22:57,220 --> 02:23:03,160 for more information, contact the AMVETs. 1748 02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:06,140 So they're hoping to have 40 teams for that 1749 02:23:06,140 --> 02:23:08,120 and hopefully they have great success. 1750 02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:13,560 I do want to have, if you could pass those down, 1751 02:23:13,740 --> 02:23:14,240 Councillor Ewing. 1752 02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:21,260 This is a community newsletter that we put together 1753 02:23:21,260 --> 02:23:24,560 at one of our department head meetings who we're talking about. 1754 02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:28,860 There's no way to highlight everything that goes on. 1755 02:23:29,020 --> 02:23:30,340 I mean, we have the community calendars. 1756 02:23:30,500 --> 02:23:34,100 We have Facebook, social media, emails, et cetera. 1757 02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:38,280 However, we are hoping to highlight some different things. 1758 02:23:39,420 --> 02:23:42,580 In particular, I said to the department heads, 1759 02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:45,480 what are the general major questions when people contact you? 1760 02:23:45,740 --> 02:23:47,080 What are some events that come on annually? 1761 02:23:47,660 --> 02:23:50,280 So we're gonna hopefully do four of these a year 1762 02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:56,620 and maybe even more if we have the staffing to be able to pull it off. 1763 02:23:57,060 --> 02:24:01,260 But it's just a series of things that are important to the residents. 1764 02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:04,460 These will be throughout the town on the website. 1765 02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:07,040 They'll be at the library, the community center. 1766 02:24:07,780 --> 02:24:11,080 We do have a newsletter that we include within the annual census. 1767 02:24:11,560 --> 02:24:14,520 So this will be a component of that also. 1768 02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:20,540 I do want to tip my cap in particular to Elizabeth LaRosey, the library director. 1769 02:24:22,770 --> 02:24:26,710 She kind of took the vision and took it to the next step. 1770 02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:34,630 I'm very pleased with the work that was done on this, so this will be available on the town's news tomorrow. 1771 02:24:35,170 --> 02:24:40,730 And we'll probably have the ability to email it out also, but you will find it in some other areas around town. 1772 02:24:40,730 --> 02:24:48,550 Very helpful information here that I think residents would enjoy having to be on the lookout. 1773 02:24:48,890 --> 02:24:55,890 Mr. President, for that, I don't mean to interrupt the time management, but I see our super still sitting here and 1774 02:24:55,890 --> 02:25:02,630 would it be appropriate, and maybe we could interrupt time management before it to take the super, her issue out of order. 1775 02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:06,070 Are you almost all set? 1776 02:25:07,230 --> 02:25:09,170 Basically, I am all set. 1777 02:25:09,290 --> 02:25:15,830 I will say we did have, and she's here in the audience, Finesque-Cataboyce-Davis 1778 02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:19,090 wants to volunteer to serve on the Conservation Commission. 1779 02:25:19,450 --> 02:25:23,870 They are desperately in need of people to serve on the committee. 1780 02:25:24,890 --> 02:25:28,610 There have been the starting to get into that flow as we've seen up, down, up, down over 1781 02:25:28,610 --> 02:25:31,110 the years, quorum issues. 1782 02:25:31,810 --> 02:25:35,890 She's excited about the opportunity, so I do want to put her name forward. 1783 02:25:35,890 --> 02:25:39,930 She is here, I don't want to put her on the spot, but she was willing to serve. 1784 02:25:40,290 --> 02:25:47,610 So I do want to put her name forward this evening to serve on the Conservation Commission. 1785 02:25:47,930 --> 02:25:52,090 She does not have formal training on the Conservation Commission, but 1786 02:25:52,090 --> 02:25:56,470 her hat and soul and she's going to work with our current 1787 02:25:57,970 --> 02:26:06,050 Com-com administrator Joe Dunn, so I'm excited about giving her an opportunity to serve this community. 1788 02:26:06,610 --> 02:26:07,810 So move the recommendation. 1789 02:26:08,250 --> 02:26:08,470 Second. 1790 02:26:10,010 --> 02:26:12,050 Did you send out an email about this before? 1791 02:26:12,310 --> 02:26:12,830 I did not. 1792 02:26:13,530 --> 02:26:20,950 Basically, we were talking throughout the weekend about opportunities to serve, so the short answer 1793 02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:21,390 is no. 1794 02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:25,530 But I do know that they are having great, great issues in getting quirms. 1795 02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:30,490 And unfortunately, and we're going to be doing another big thing with mailings and 1796 02:26:30,490 --> 02:26:38,310 start to try and get our boards, committees, and commissions reinvigorated as far as we have some openings that need to be filled. 1797 02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:40,710 All right, Fred, this is a discussion. 1798 02:26:40,870 --> 02:26:41,670 Just some discussion. 1799 02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:48,050 You don't need formal training, you'll pick it up, it's not, it's not that bad, so it'll be good. 1800 02:26:48,910 --> 02:26:50,570 I think it's, thank you for all of your concern. 1801 02:26:50,570 --> 02:26:55,070 I know her all right any other discussion here and none all in favor please say aye 1802 02:26:56,090 --> 02:26:59,410 Opposed abstention that's unanimous congratulate you 1803 02:26:59,410 --> 02:27:02,610 I'm assuming 1804 02:27:04,980 --> 02:27:09,920 you were speaking to the unpaid bills will not I believe that was the request 1805 02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:11,920 any objections 1806 02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:18,940 All right next item will have the fiscal year in 19 unpaid bills general fund 1807 02:27:19,720 --> 02:27:25,740 Council order 2019-049, introduced by town manager Brian Howard. 1808 02:27:28,190 --> 02:27:36,070 Yes, this is a annual article that comes traditionally in the September time frame. 1809 02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:43,890 I will say there are two additional bills that I was hoping to have on this list. 1810 02:27:44,210 --> 02:27:46,990 Those will be presented at the next Council meeting. 1811 02:27:47,730 --> 02:27:53,930 We always try to, during the end of the year, transfer us to limit this as much as we can. 1812 02:27:54,870 --> 02:28:01,070 So tonight, we are coming forward with the following list, our finance director is here. 1813 02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:04,050 Also this evening to speak to the staff. 1814 02:28:05,190 --> 02:28:09,610 And just before you get started, can you tell us what the ones that will be coming before us are? 1815 02:28:09,710 --> 02:28:11,270 So we can have a fuller picture, 1816 02:28:13,290 --> 02:28:16,930 at least approximate numbers on the order. 1817 02:28:16,930 --> 02:28:26,610 come that are still that are not on this. There is approximately 15,000 in I think it's 1818 02:28:26,610 --> 02:28:40,570 the work that's gone account and second one was police department and I believe when 1819 02:28:40,570 --> 02:28:47,490 When they're done compiling it should be under $5,000 for front-papels. 1820 02:28:48,070 --> 02:28:54,730 All right, Ms. Smith, are you leading us off or are the numbers or what the numbers are? 1821 02:28:55,770 --> 02:28:57,610 The numbers are as presented. 1822 02:28:59,050 --> 02:28:59,850 Councillor Goldstein. 1823 02:29:02,970 --> 02:29:08,430 I'm just curious at the presentation like I'm looking at Randall public schools at 148,000. 1824 02:29:08,430 --> 02:29:14,710 Now, that's just the total, and then the detail is on the right-hand side for the $148,000. 1825 02:29:15,090 --> 02:29:15,610 Correct. 1826 02:29:16,250 --> 02:29:23,830 Now, am I correct in saying that if these bills weren't there, we would have another $250,000 in free cash? 1827 02:29:29,910 --> 02:29:36,710 So the way that this order is presented, the funding source is the 2020 budget. 1828 02:29:37,630 --> 02:29:43,290 So it's essentially moving an appropriation from one pocket to the other to pay the bills. 1829 02:29:44,170 --> 02:29:46,310 There is no appropriation for these bills. 1830 02:29:47,450 --> 02:29:50,090 Okay, so this is coming out of the 2020 budget. 1831 02:29:51,310 --> 02:29:55,530 So each related department, each department that has bills, 1832 02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:58,530 their 2020 budget will be reduced by the announcement. 1833 02:29:58,650 --> 02:29:59,430 Will be reduced by that. 1834 02:30:03,340 --> 02:30:12,140 Councilor Egan. With these, when we did the effort, 20 budget with these, excuse me, anticipated? 1835 02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:32,540 Through you, Mr. President. No. So the way that these invoices or these obligations come about to be presented in this manner. As we approach June, I send out communications to all departments. I work with those school finance director and ask that they work with the vendors. 1836 02:30:32,540 --> 02:30:46,200 They get an idea of what invoices may be outstanding that they haven't yet received yet, so if the placed orders are not received the invoice physically in hand yet, they're asked to keep track of that to monitor their budget. 1837 02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:51,360 If there's available budget funds, they're allowed to encumber those budget funds. 1838 02:30:51,880 --> 02:31:01,040 So if I have a bill that I know I'm going to get in the mail in July, and my budget has availability. 1839 02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:06,580 I can encumber it, and then I can pay that bill in July, and it wouldn't be on this list. 1840 02:31:07,180 --> 02:31:12,900 So these are either bills that departments did not know that they were going to get, 1841 02:31:13,380 --> 02:31:16,540 and passed the deadline of when I do my review and close the books. 1842 02:31:16,940 --> 02:31:22,580 Or their invoices that the departments didn't have available budget at the end of the year. 1843 02:31:23,180 --> 02:31:29,360 So they could not be paid or encumbered, and they need an appropriation now to fulfill our obligation. 1844 02:31:29,360 --> 02:31:35,940 Can you use the one on the top line of use as an example of that? 1845 02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:42,600 Because we knew that that expense was going to occur, and we should have had money in our account. 1846 02:31:43,260 --> 02:31:49,020 Through you, Mr. President, so this first line, the $8,500 for the contract was 1847 02:31:49,020 --> 02:31:55,800 encumbered, what wasn't included, where the reimbursement expenses that the Collins Center has presented. 1848 02:31:55,800 --> 02:32:02,160 So not the candidates reimbursement for travel, but the call and send of themselves for the advertising of 1849 02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:11,040 Good job posting and those sorts of things. So you know, I think working with Deb we captured the 8500 1850 02:32:12,140 --> 02:32:17,520 Reimbursable expenses with the contract slipped by me as well. So we didn't 1851 02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:23,500 Overspend our budget per se then no the council. Okay. Yes, so this would be an obligation that we weren't aware of 1852 02:32:26,140 --> 02:32:30,440 So the 2364 was above and beyond the 8500. 1853 02:32:30,680 --> 02:32:30,920 Correct. 1854 02:32:31,820 --> 02:32:32,460 And so, 1855 02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:40,220 okay, do you have a detailed list of what that included? 1856 02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:41,200 I do. 1857 02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:45,420 And we can see that at some point? 1858 02:32:45,980 --> 02:32:48,060 Yes, I can forward that to the council tomorrow. 1859 02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:48,580 Okay. 1860 02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:52,920 And do you have that for all the invoices? 1861 02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:54,360 I do. 1862 02:32:54,660 --> 02:32:54,880 Okay. 1863 02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:56,440 Councillor 1864 02:32:58,970 --> 02:33:04,850 Goldstein. Move to approve. Council order 219-049. 1865 02:33:05,290 --> 02:33:05,550 Second. 1866 02:33:09,200 --> 02:33:12,980 Motion made and seconded. I hope we can have some discussion, Councillor 1867 02:33:12,980 --> 02:33:18,380 Exophilis. So how do we go about making some of these departments 1868 02:33:18,380 --> 02:33:28,060 I mean, $32,000 in highway expats, $148,000 in schools. 1869 02:33:28,460 --> 02:33:30,960 How does that happen? 1870 02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:38,080 Because you don't want to take a hit for this year. 1871 02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:42,020 Use this year's money to pay last year's bills. 1872 02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:47,280 Right, so I guess the options are, one, they reduce their budget or two. 1873 02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:54,800 There are alternative sources whether it's and those are discussions that can be had do you want to touch on any of that? 1874 02:33:55,360 --> 02:34:05,700 I mean the short answer is as the year goes on as the council knows they're there have there are what is it'll come forward to transfers. 1875 02:34:07,420 --> 02:34:16,660 That would be one one option in some of these when free cash gets certified that's another opportunity 1876 02:34:16,660 --> 02:34:24,380 And as was previously mentioned, some departments may need to tighten the belt a little bit to offset some of this. 1877 02:34:24,660 --> 02:34:31,420 So it's really a combination of a series of things we do have unpaid bills every year. 1878 02:34:32,820 --> 02:34:40,120 This, a few of these numbers, I think the legal numbers, the council's more than aware as to what those are. 1879 02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:45,660 some of the other stuff, certainly from Janine's standpoint and my standpoint. 1880 02:34:46,400 --> 02:34:52,920 As much as possible, we expect that these bills would be encumbered, and they would go in through that process. 1881 02:34:54,300 --> 02:34:55,440 So why weren't they? 1882 02:34:56,840 --> 02:35:00,240 There's, there's, those are personal matters. 1883 02:35:01,900 --> 02:35:09,360 I guess I could say, as far as I'm concerned, there are a number of instances where people should have done that. 1884 02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:14,020 and how I respond to that, or I suppose how we respond to that with the department. 1885 02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:19,900 It is kind of a personnel issue as far as our expectations and things of that nature. 1886 02:35:20,220 --> 02:35:26,160 But yes, a number of these items in my opinion fall into that category. 1887 02:35:26,580 --> 02:35:29,000 Are there any categories we did not have the money? 1888 02:35:31,630 --> 02:35:34,850 Well, in the case of legal, we know what that is. 1889 02:35:35,570 --> 02:35:46,690 Deep UW, the hard part, if you remember is we did a transfer in and then we took actually some out at the end of the year to balance some other issues because some of these other bills hadn't been presented yet. 1890 02:35:47,110 --> 02:35:51,470 So quite frankly, we probably would have just paid those out of that in conference. 1891 02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:59,050 The superintendent can speak better to, in particular, they're in the public school numbers that are listed here. 1892 02:36:00,250 --> 02:36:10,290 But for the most part, like the community's program number, the 1450, that's actually almost two years old, that bill, as an example. 1893 02:36:11,810 --> 02:36:13,290 Mr. Vell, you are here. 1894 02:36:13,610 --> 02:36:26,730 It appears as though there are three things we're paying for with the 148,000 image technology specialist, IT, image tech, and the lion share to direct energy for $137,000. 1895 02:36:27,370 --> 02:36:34,530 I think I along with many are curious how you know we get an invoice or whatever whatever of that price at the end of the year. 1896 02:36:34,770 --> 02:36:39,670 Okay, so I haven't seen the sheet that you're looking at but I'm here to speak about the direct energy. 1897 02:36:40,450 --> 02:36:42,090 I haven't looked at the other two. 1898 02:36:43,510 --> 02:36:45,610 So I'm going to own a piece of this. 1899 02:36:46,610 --> 02:36:48,690 We received the thank you. 1900 02:36:49,650 --> 02:36:55,470 We received bills from direct energy after July 15th I believe. 1901 02:36:56,650 --> 02:37:00,630 They went to, there had been no bills going to the finance department. 1902 02:37:01,590 --> 02:37:14,450 We asked them to, we actually got a phone call and said that said if we don't receive payment within three days we're cutting up this contract with random public schools. 1903 02:37:14,610 --> 02:37:15,430 What's direct energy? 1904 02:37:16,090 --> 02:37:16,530 I'm sorry. 1905 02:37:16,770 --> 02:37:17,670 What is direct energy? 1906 02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:20,890 Direct energy is the company that's dealing with the solar 1907 02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:26,870 pieces of in that providing our utility, our electricity at the district. 1908 02:37:27,670 --> 02:37:36,910 And so to get a phone call that you owe $137,000 and out three days to pay it was concerning. 1909 02:37:37,610 --> 02:37:43,330 At that point, this is probably right around the time that our Director of Finance went out on 1910 02:37:43,330 --> 02:37:48,450 medical, you know, maybe a little bit afterwards, but we started having a conversation around 1911 02:37:48,450 --> 02:37:52,410 the national grid credits that were owed to the schools. 1912 02:37:52,810 --> 02:37:57,290 What I would like to say is since that time, we have secured the credits, the 100, and 1913 02:37:57,290 --> 02:38:02,090 I don't know the exact amount of the check, but the check to cover these costs has already 1914 02:38:02,090 --> 02:38:03,850 been deposited in the town of council. 1915 02:38:03,930 --> 02:38:10,550 The revenue is there, however, it was deposited in FY20 for an FY19 bill. 1916 02:38:10,550 --> 02:38:17,430 So, basically, you know, I'm not going to make excuses on why it didn't happen, I was not 1917 02:38:17,430 --> 02:38:24,390 aware of this, I was expecting the finance office to know these things, but we have tried 1918 02:38:24,390 --> 02:38:30,810 to make the town hall and the school hall by securing the credits, which have actually 1919 02:38:30,810 --> 02:38:32,870 been deposited, so the town now holds those funds. 1920 02:38:33,630 --> 02:38:38,530 So I'm trying to find, I actually had a great meeting with the town manager and town accountant 1921 02:38:38,530 --> 02:38:45,950 today to figure out what can we do so that the school does not take a $148,000 hit when 1922 02:38:45,950 --> 02:38:52,610 the town is already holding the funds, because that for us would be a huge deal. 1923 02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:56,930 And as you know, we're already facing some other potential cuts and are waiting to hear 1924 02:38:56,930 --> 02:39:02,310 from the from desi as to whether or not there's going to be additional funding coming our 1925 02:39:02,310 --> 02:39:05,410 way hopefully in some time in October, which is what they quoted us. 1926 02:39:05,410 --> 02:39:11,090 So my understanding is that it sort of lies with the Council to make that decision, but 1927 02:39:11,090 --> 02:39:15,430 I'm basically asking at this point that you consider the fact that you are holding 1928 02:39:15,430 --> 02:39:21,450 the revenue that covers the cost of that apparently it cannot be used until the end of FY20, 1929 02:39:22,030 --> 02:39:23,090 but it is there. 1930 02:39:23,550 --> 02:39:29,230 So that's it and once you want to add something to me, I don't know if I've covered everything 1931 02:39:29,630 --> 02:39:33,930 in terms of the process on how the town, what the town does with the money as it sits. 1932 02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:37,310 I should know this, but are we on the same electrical company? 1933 02:39:39,410 --> 02:39:44,870 There are different solar credits, both as different care stars as one of the companies 1934 02:39:44,870 --> 02:39:46,190 that we deal with on our run. 1935 02:39:46,890 --> 02:39:52,650 Back to the other point quickly is, it's not as simple as the council taking a vote to transfer 1936 02:39:52,650 --> 02:39:55,570 the check in because it's two different fiscal years. 1937 02:39:56,190 --> 02:39:56,910 So she said that. 1938 02:39:56,910 --> 02:40:04,110 right, but she then said to the council that's a vote for you to take. I want to make 1939 02:40:04,110 --> 02:40:07,970 it clear that it's not, and to the public, it's not that the council can just take a vote 1940 02:40:08,470 --> 02:40:16,030 to transfer that money over. As I mentioned earlier, we're going to be looking at different 1941 02:40:16,030 --> 02:40:22,910 things throughout the year to try and deal with some of these issues that are presented here 1942 02:40:22,910 --> 02:40:26,030 here today and how they're going to impact, you know, the budget. 1943 02:40:28,690 --> 02:40:34,310 Free cash will hopefully be certified, come the next four to six weeks so that that does 1944 02:40:34,310 --> 02:40:36,130 become an opportunity and an option. 1945 02:40:37,870 --> 02:40:44,050 But I just wanted to make it clear that it's not as, it's not a simple vote of the council 1946 02:40:44,050 --> 02:40:48,530 to free up the money that was deposited in this fiscal year to pay a previous year. 1947 02:40:48,590 --> 02:40:48,870 That's all. 1948 02:40:49,790 --> 02:40:50,810 The way it's accounted for. 1949 02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:55,650 And I think we understand that we can't, we can only, you would give us an 1950 02:40:55,650 --> 02:41:01,030 appropriation on it for us to be able to spend anything but what I think and I've 1951 02:41:01,030 --> 02:41:06,430 been a critic when I think it need to be however here's if she's stating it 1952 02:41:06,430 --> 02:41:12,410 correctly we've received a check for what she owes it, what you'll give bill for 1953 02:41:12,410 --> 02:41:19,220 or else whatever. So with that we should at least be able to give a good faith 1954 02:41:19,220 --> 02:41:29,380 If commitment somewhere that it's her money to spend providing, we're not cutting you another $800,000 or whatever it is with the desi stuff. 1955 02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:39,740 If we can make that commitment, then I'm not going to say we're going to approve deficit spending, but there should be some way we can say, 1956 02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:44,900 hey, that 148 is theirs. 1957 02:41:44,900 --> 02:41:51,300 and she shouldn't have to go in today and try to make cuts in A, B, and C programming to cover that deficit. 1958 02:41:52,060 --> 02:41:55,760 And I think the meeting that we had today, we discussed some options to do that. 1959 02:41:56,220 --> 02:42:02,400 So is there a commitment from myself and the Finance Director in that area? 1960 02:42:02,880 --> 02:42:03,040 Yes. 1961 02:42:04,140 --> 02:42:04,900 Councillor Exellvis? 1962 02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:07,560 How much of a check did we receive? 1963 02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:14,040 Through you, Mr. President, the credits that were monetized were $140,000 from National Grid. 1964 02:42:15,100 --> 02:42:18,080 100 and $140,000. 1965 02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:19,920 So that's what I've covered. 1966 02:42:20,120 --> 02:42:24,240 All right, there's a motion on the floor to approve the order for the discussion. 1967 02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:33,760 With the caveat that this council supportive of that 148 is the school money. 1968 02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:35,060 That's not my motion. 1969 02:42:35,980 --> 02:42:36,720 That's an amendment then. 1970 02:42:37,920 --> 02:42:38,880 I don't think we can do that. 1971 02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:51,600 Well, I just think it should be at least in the discussion, you know, I think that, I think that the sentiment is there that it goes back. 1972 02:42:52,760 --> 02:42:53,800 Okay, ultimately. 1973 02:42:54,340 --> 02:43:01,140 Any further discussion on the motion to approve Councilor 2019-049 all in favor, please say aye. 1974 02:43:01,520 --> 02:43:01,720 Aye. 1975 02:43:02,240 --> 02:43:02,780 Opposed? 1976 02:43:03,360 --> 02:43:03,880 Abstention? 1977 02:43:04,600 --> 02:43:05,780 That is unanimous. 1978 02:43:06,140 --> 02:43:06,820 Thank you, Mr. Vell. 1979 02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:08,200 Thank you. 1980 02:43:08,200 --> 02:43:10,900 Thank you, Ms. Gordon, and Ms. Frazier. 1981 02:43:13,970 --> 02:43:28,930 We have Councilor Twin at 2019-047 request for the town council to initiate amendments to the Randall Zoning Ordnance, Chapter 200 of the General Code of the town of Randall Relative to Carwashing Services, pursuing to MGL Chapter 48, Section 5. 1982 02:43:29,510 --> 02:43:35,930 A point of information to answer, yeah, I was coming to our finish with this report. 1983 02:43:37,610 --> 02:43:39,550 Yes, the appointment was last. 1984 02:43:40,250 --> 02:43:40,830 Thank you. 1985 02:43:41,330 --> 02:43:41,510 Yeah. 1986 02:43:41,650 --> 02:43:43,530 This is introduced by the planning board. 1987 02:43:44,870 --> 02:43:46,730 Do we want to send it off to? 1988 02:43:49,560 --> 02:43:51,560 Move to refer to the planning board, Nordinates. 1989 02:43:53,100 --> 02:43:54,180 What does that do back to the plan board? 1990 02:43:54,900 --> 02:43:55,600 They need a public hearing. 1991 02:43:56,960 --> 02:43:59,440 Motion made by Councillor Bredgers, seconded by Councillor Goldstein. 1992 02:43:59,600 --> 02:44:00,780 All in favor, please say aye. 1993 02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:01,420 Aye. 1994 02:44:02,000 --> 02:44:02,360 Opposed? 1995 02:44:02,960 --> 02:44:03,400 Abstention? 1996 02:44:03,780 --> 02:44:04,660 That's unanimous. 1997 02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:06,420 We'll be getting on that. 1998 02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:13,960 Councilor Choi, 19-048, betterment agreement for 48 Fitzgerald Street. 1999 02:44:15,140 --> 02:44:17,660 It's introduced by your town manager, Brian Howard. 2000 02:44:22,030 --> 02:44:30,510 Good evening, Christine Griffin, our legal counsel, has been working closely with our 2001 02:44:30,510 --> 02:44:37,710 DPW superintendent on this matter, so I will hand it off to her to describe a little bit 2002 02:44:37,710 --> 02:44:43,730 more what we're doing here at the betterment agreement, the authorization that we're speaking 2003 02:44:43,730 --> 02:44:45,650 this evening from the town council. 2004 02:44:47,150 --> 02:44:51,150 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. President, this is an order that was generated at the request 2005 02:44:51,150 --> 02:44:57,030 of the DPW Fitzgerald Street as a public way in Randolph that, for some reason, was never 2006 02:44:57,550 --> 02:44:59,210 entirely completely constructed. 2007 02:44:59,210 --> 02:44:59,270 Thank you. 2008 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,980 So there is a space in the middle of Fitzgerald way that has only recently been turned into a paved area. This didn't become a pressing issue until recently when someone purchased the property that is directly abutting that part of the street. And so the only way that they get into their property is if we paved the public way in front of it, and then they could put a driveway into their property. As part of doing that work, utilities also need to be installed to the house. And most of the utilities were apparently easy to install, given what was 2009 02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:33,640 It's already under the street, but the water pipe did not reach the house. 2010 02:45:34,100 --> 02:45:42,120 So the DPW did have to put in, or will have to finish putting in some significant chunk of water pipe. 2011 02:45:42,660 --> 02:45:53,200 There is a statute that allows a town to, when they make a capital improvement that benefits only a single resident or a small group of residents. 2012 02:45:53,200 --> 02:46:00,340 The town is allowed to charge those residents the amount that the improvement 2013 02:46:00,340 --> 02:46:02,220 increased the value of their property. 2014 02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:06,720 In this case, adding water service to a property increases the value of the property 2015 02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:08,640 exponentially, because otherwise you couldn't have a house on it. 2016 02:46:09,320 --> 02:46:10,620 We certainly aren't going to charge that amount. 2017 02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:16,920 And so what the property owner suggested and what the DPW director thought was a good idea was 2018 02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:21,540 to simply charge the property owner for the price of the materials and the work to put in that pipe. 2019 02:46:21,540 --> 02:46:23,080 And so that's what this reflects. 2020 02:46:23,260 --> 02:46:28,260 This reflects an agreement between the town and the property owner that the property owner will reimburse the 2021 02:46:29,320 --> 02:46:35,140 Town for the cost of the materials and the work to extend the water pipe to that residence so that the house can have water 2022 02:46:35,140 --> 02:46:36,940 Service in an amount not to exceed 2023 02:46:38,120 --> 02:46:40,140 5,780 dollars or 42 cents 2024 02:46:40,140 --> 02:46:46,000 All right, so just to be clear, it's the resident that's paying this the town is nothingness correct the property owner 2025 02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:50,560 I believe it's a developer so ultimately the house will probably get sold with the property owner. There's the developer will pay it 2026 02:46:54,420 --> 02:46:56,240 I believe the water pipe is in. 2027 02:46:57,880 --> 02:47:02,340 I don't know the status of the work I know that this has been going on all summer and 2028 02:47:02,340 --> 02:47:04,200 when we started working on this, it was not in. 2029 02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:07,120 It may have gone in while this was in development. 2030 02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:09,740 Yeah, I think it is in. 2031 02:47:10,020 --> 02:47:17,840 So what the two issues say, one, it says, if he doesn't pay, we won't give him an occupancy 2032 02:47:17,840 --> 02:47:18,120 permit. 2033 02:47:19,280 --> 02:47:26,080 We give occupancy permits for less, with people they shouldn't have them, or for more, that people 2034 02:47:26,080 --> 02:47:26,820 shouldn't have them. 2035 02:47:28,340 --> 02:47:29,500 So, what's going to happen? 2036 02:47:29,860 --> 02:47:31,760 Does the building commissioner agree with that? 2037 02:47:32,300 --> 02:47:32,960 No occupancy permit? 2038 02:47:35,150 --> 02:47:37,730 Well, it doesn't matter if we have this agreement. 2039 02:47:38,390 --> 02:47:45,730 Well, it does matter because there are audits and conditions and planning would decision to say no occupancy permit but he gets them anyway. 2040 02:47:46,650 --> 02:47:49,390 So that's one issue, but what if 2041 02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:53,480 Fitzgerald treats a public way? 2042 02:47:54,340 --> 02:47:57,100 It's been a public way since hector was a pup. 2043 02:47:58,160 --> 02:48:04,280 It was never fully developed in the middle of it because of the fact that it's a big hole. 2044 02:48:04,360 --> 02:48:04,720 It was a gull. 2045 02:48:05,500 --> 02:48:13,700 Now, when Sparing continued Fitzgerald down the other end, there were no better mints, 2046 02:48:14,060 --> 02:48:15,580 but I believe he paid for that whole thing. 2047 02:48:16,300 --> 02:48:21,700 under the town have to pay for that and develop the street because once the streets are already accepted whether it's 2048 02:48:22,980 --> 02:48:24,940 paid a paved or not paved 2049 02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:26,360 We own that 2050 02:48:28,140 --> 02:48:31,480 And and if we own it let's those are our responsibilities 2051 02:48:31,880 --> 02:48:37,320 Now I know traditionally there's a betterment clause where if you're providing when we provide a sewerage in the 70s 2052 02:48:37,320 --> 02:48:41,160 When we buy your house you would experience time to connect to it and you had to pay for that 2053 02:48:42,560 --> 02:48:45,260 So I don't know why Mr. Galvin's responsible for that 2054 02:48:46,830 --> 02:48:55,530 So, I think in this case here, it's like when you do a development, the contractor usually puts in all the utilities and pays for them. 2055 02:48:55,970 --> 02:49:03,270 I think this is just the same thing, but in reverse, that the town did the work instead of the contractor, 2056 02:49:03,730 --> 02:49:06,590 then the contractor pays the town for the work. 2057 02:49:06,750 --> 02:49:13,250 Maybe Mr. Gowon didn't have the equipment, but it's a public street, it's not a private street. 2058 02:49:13,250 --> 02:49:18,990 No, I understand, but it's correct, but these 2059 02:49:21,040 --> 02:49:24,560 things would have been done regardless, 2060 02:49:26,140 --> 02:49:32,520 because the developer needs to put the infrastructure in order to put the house. 2061 02:49:32,840 --> 02:49:37,240 So I'm just saying whether the contractor did it or the town did it, it's getting done, 2062 02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:38,220 and this is what the cost is. 2063 02:49:38,220 --> 02:49:40,420 Yeah, I agree with you in the concept of that. 2064 02:49:41,020 --> 02:49:42,420 It does have to get done. 2065 02:49:42,420 --> 02:49:42,820 Right. 2066 02:49:43,280 --> 02:49:51,700 However, the legal piece really does, if Mr. Galham doesn't pay the $5,000, he's not 2067 02:49:51,700 --> 02:49:56,660 being forced to pay, now a developer would be forced to pay the entire cost of getting 2068 02:49:56,660 --> 02:50:00,340 the water line from more street all the way into the grid. 2069 02:50:01,620 --> 02:50:05,520 He's not being asked to do that, so it's not really a true cost of the project. 2070 02:50:05,820 --> 02:50:08,800 Well, he's paying for 126 feet of pipe. 2071 02:50:09,700 --> 02:50:12,040 So we're kind of trying to make a hybrid. 2072 02:50:12,040 --> 02:50:17,700 So he pays for something, but it really is, I don't know, I'm not going to ask you about legal grounds. 2073 02:50:18,380 --> 02:50:22,280 But I don't know if Mr. Galvin's really responsible. 2074 02:50:23,380 --> 02:50:31,520 Well, so through you, Mr. President, the statute allows us to charge the benefited member town for 2075 02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:33,720 the specific work that we did that benefited them. 2076 02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:40,040 So in this case, there's an existing water pipe, is my understanding, there's an existing water pipe that's serving the other residences. 2077 02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:51,280 And this was an extension specifically for this property and those circumstances you are allowed upon a boat of the council to charge for that, but we don't have to. The town could simply pay for it if you don't want him to pay for it. 2078 02:50:51,340 --> 02:50:59,840 Yeah, but if it's Gerald Street only had a thin like a two-inch lie like what an only could connect from your water main to the house going up the entire thing. 2079 02:50:59,860 --> 02:51:04,600 So what they've done is they replaced it with a regular water main up the whole side of the syrup. 2080 02:51:04,600 --> 02:51:07,880 So it was worked the town had a view anyway. 2081 02:51:09,240 --> 02:51:13,840 As long as the amount is less than the increase in property value that his property 2082 02:51:13,840 --> 02:51:17,720 received, as a result of the improvements, then the town is permitted to assess 2083 02:51:17,720 --> 02:51:18,400 him that amount. 2084 02:51:18,560 --> 02:51:20,780 And in this case, House Without Water is worth. 2085 02:51:22,160 --> 02:51:27,240 So I do think that it's a legally permissible agreement, but it is entirely a policy 2086 02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:31,860 call on the council's part whether this is something you want to just have the DPW pay 2087 02:51:31,860 --> 02:51:35,740 as part of their regular operations or whether you actually want to make this assessment. 2088 02:51:36,860 --> 02:51:40,400 And obviously the DPW has had conversation with Mr. Galvin. 2089 02:51:40,720 --> 02:51:44,840 In fact, by understanding that Mr. Galvin approached the DPW and said that he would be very 2090 02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:48,800 grateful to have water service and if there's anything he could pay for to assist in getting 2091 02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:50,680 water service, he would like to do that. 2092 02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:53,060 Sounds like a heavy commotion. 2093 02:51:53,340 --> 02:51:53,780 Go ahead. 2094 02:51:53,960 --> 02:51:54,720 Mr. President, yeah? 2095 02:51:54,720 --> 02:52:03,720 I'd like to make a motion that the Council approved, Council Order 2019-048 betterment 2096 02:52:03,720 --> 02:52:12,400 agreement for 48 Fitzgerald Street, according to the contract provided in the Council 2097 02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:16,760 Order for the charge of $5,780.42. 2098 02:52:18,780 --> 02:52:21,000 I think it's up to, right? 2099 02:52:21,440 --> 02:52:22,500 Right, up to, right. 2100 02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:23,540 Not to exceed. 2101 02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:26,340 Motion made and seconded for the discussion. 2102 02:52:26,660 --> 02:52:27,740 All in favor, please say aye. 2103 02:52:27,980 --> 02:52:28,340 Aye. 2104 02:52:28,780 --> 02:52:29,300 Opposed? 2105 02:52:29,500 --> 02:52:29,640 Aye. 2106 02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:30,760 Abstention? 2107 02:52:31,240 --> 02:52:33,500 A to one vote, Councillor Burgess on the negative. 2108 02:52:35,380 --> 02:52:35,900 Correspondence? 2109 02:52:40,130 --> 02:52:42,550 I received an email from James Passman. 2110 02:52:44,290 --> 02:52:48,730 On behalf of the neighbors of Chateau Park and Roy Cross Drive, please accept 2111 02:52:48,730 --> 02:52:51,750 that thanks to both the DPW and conservation commission 2112 02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:53,750 for clearing the brush and storm drain 2113 02:52:53,750 --> 02:52:56,210 from the conservation property on Boycroft Drive. 2114 02:52:56,890 --> 02:52:59,810 The property abuts the Kacheto River Watershed area 2115 02:52:59,810 --> 02:53:02,490 and requires annual maintenance to ensure residents 2116 02:53:02,490 --> 02:53:04,230 can read the no-dumping signs. 2117 02:53:04,670 --> 02:53:06,610 And the storm drains remain clear of debris 2118 02:53:06,610 --> 02:53:08,510 and drain into the watershed wetlands. 2119 02:53:08,910 --> 02:53:11,430 We appreciate the work the DPW in Kong Kong 2120 02:53:11,430 --> 02:53:12,690 has done for a neighborhood. 2121 02:53:13,290 --> 02:53:16,670 Sincerely, Jim Passman on behalf of our neighborhood. 2122 02:53:18,950 --> 02:53:21,770 I was also asked to read this by Council of Burgess. 2123 02:53:21,970 --> 02:53:28,950 It was an email that was sent to the council dated August 24, 2019. 2124 02:53:29,750 --> 02:53:31,470 It's from Sakeena Richards. 2125 02:53:33,550 --> 02:53:37,030 My name is Ella Fias, Sakeena Richards, Jean Fia. 2126 02:53:37,210 --> 02:53:43,610 I'm a Randolph resident, active member of the community, mother of two boys, a minority 2127 02:53:44,410 --> 02:53:47,970 resident born in Jamaica with multi-racial ancestry. 2128 02:53:47,970 --> 02:53:52,690 consider myself Jamaican. My husband is Haitian and Dominican, born and raised in Haiti. We have both 2129 02:53:52,690 --> 02:53:58,030 United States citizens having first-generation born American children. Recently, I've decided to 2130 02:53:58,030 --> 02:54:02,370 take my community involvement to the next level by choosing to be a candidate towards town counselor 2131 02:54:02,370 --> 02:54:08,690 at Lodge in Randolph. This decision motivated by much pride and passion, having been a 17-year resident 2132 02:54:08,690 --> 02:54:13,710 of Randolph. This motivation was recently shot down due to what I believe to be dangerous and malicious 2133 02:54:17,630 --> 02:54:23,670 I believe that this attack entices violence against myself, which places my family in eye at risk. 2134 02:54:24,330 --> 02:54:39,550 On Monday, August 19, 2019, Facebook user in Mattapan Tech Business owner, Jack Dottie Jean posted a vile statement twice regarding a Darnel L Williams to patch it from the urban league of Eastern Massachusetts and his excitement. 2135 02:54:39,550 --> 02:54:44,110 Moving forward, I will refer to Jack Stady Jean as Mr. Jean. 2136 02:54:44,650 --> 02:54:50,130 As a creator and admin of the Facebook group, Randolph United Activist, I commented under 2137 02:54:50,130 --> 02:54:55,810 Mr. Jean's post, not for nothing, but you post in very controversial things, LOL, then 2138 02:54:55,810 --> 02:54:58,670 later we can't sing almost the opposite about the person. 2139 02:54:59,330 --> 02:55:01,030 It confuses me on where you stand. 2140 02:55:01,810 --> 02:55:06,970 Mr. Jean responded in a lengthy post, which indicated, patients will tell a brother or sister 2141 02:55:06,970 --> 02:55:09,730 to what they did is wrong, but we still have each other's back. 2142 02:55:10,350 --> 02:55:13,250 Never get involved in our fight, we are bounding by blood. 2143 02:55:13,970 --> 02:55:18,730 The dialogue turned into an argument, and we both exchange words as I was bothered by 2144 02:55:18,730 --> 02:55:23,450 the strong language used to express patients being bound by blood and always sticking together. 2145 02:55:24,210 --> 02:55:27,710 I responded in indicating that we are one Randolph. 2146 02:55:28,030 --> 02:55:33,050 Mr. Jean appeared again under the same name, Madame Pantek, posting a picture over himself 2147 02:55:33,050 --> 02:55:35,030 with counsel of clergy smiling. 2148 02:55:35,030 --> 02:55:41,130 At this point, I realized this exchange with Mr. Jim, whom I've never met, was charged 2149 02:55:41,130 --> 02:55:44,950 by Councillor clergy. Mr. Jean appeared again on the Facebook page, 2150 02:55:45,130 --> 02:55:49,530 Randolph United activist, indicating that he and his associates will be shutting down 2151 02:55:49,530 --> 02:55:55,350 my campaign page. Additionally, he posted a poster of me, which contained a privately-owned 2152 02:55:55,350 --> 02:56:03,070 photo of myself. The poster read, my name is Shaqina or Shaqiki Rat. I will boycott all 2153 02:56:03,070 --> 02:56:07,190 All Haitian businesses send police to any event associated with my opponent. 2154 02:56:07,710 --> 02:56:10,450 I don't want digital literacy in my town. 2155 02:56:10,690 --> 02:56:15,010 I will share voice recording and edited private conversation with town officials. 2156 02:56:15,650 --> 02:56:17,750 Vote for me if you want Randolph to move backward. 2157 02:56:18,490 --> 02:56:21,010 I hate my opponent, I hate her, I hate her, please help me. 2158 02:56:21,690 --> 02:56:27,530 This poster was charged again, she had again in a Boston based Facebook group to which council 2159 02:56:27,530 --> 02:56:30,370 Missile Acclerger is affiliated with and Mr. Jean Admin. 2160 02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:38,690 Under the user name, Mattapian Community Partnerships, this poster was shared with the following message written in French Haitian Creole. 2161 02:56:39,310 --> 02:56:40,630 Issues will never stop. 2162 02:56:40,970 --> 02:56:43,770 This woman called the police to stop the Haitian festival. 2163 02:56:44,190 --> 02:56:46,230 She told the police the Haitians are drunks. 2164 02:56:46,470 --> 02:56:50,090 She started calling the police to cause problems for Haitian businesses. 2165 02:56:50,510 --> 02:56:54,790 It is noted that council Acclerger appeared on this page, clicked and viewed this post. 2166 02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:59,670 Facebook indicated user name Natasha Closure as a viewer of this post. 2167 02:57:00,270 --> 02:57:04,810 A third attack was launched again by Council Closure and her associates at Matapantek Company 2168 02:57:04,810 --> 02:57:10,210 on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 on the Matapant Forum Facebook through. 2169 02:57:10,870 --> 02:57:17,030 This message written under the user name, Grand Moon Padri, red in both Haitian, Creole 2170 02:57:17,030 --> 02:57:17,650 and English. 2171 02:57:18,030 --> 02:57:22,430 I was kind of disappointed when Sakina Richards, Jean-Pierre, called police to disrupt 2172 02:57:22,430 --> 02:57:28,030 a family gathering at Solo Live because the family is associated with council of clergy. 2173 02:57:28,930 --> 02:57:31,990 Sakina Richards, Jean Pierre, is truly an annoying rat. 2174 02:57:32,410 --> 02:57:36,630 She has attempted to boycott Haitian businesses in many occasions. 2175 02:57:37,330 --> 02:57:42,690 Attacking Solo Live is considered attacking the entire Haitian community and is like attacking 2176 02:57:42,690 --> 02:57:45,230 Manipedeck is attacking the minority community. 2177 02:57:45,930 --> 02:57:47,930 Brother Jack, keep doing your great work. 2178 02:57:48,110 --> 02:57:49,970 You have the support of council in Natasha. 2179 02:57:50,750 --> 02:58:01,950 Closure can clip and has your black back. What you need that violin blank for. God is in your side, bro. The people of Randolph appreciate you and your wife. 2180 02:58:02,870 --> 02:58:07,590 Facebook noted this post was clicked on and viewed by Facebook user Natasha Closure. 2181 02:58:08,290 --> 02:58:18,390 This post has caused my self and my family great stress and fear all of my life to be specific, culturally calling someone a rat with reference to their communication with the police. 2182 02:58:18,390 --> 02:58:24,010 is essentially evoking several sentiments, one of mistrust and one of violence against 2183 02:58:24,010 --> 02:58:28,930 the individual. Council of Courgette has not publicly denounced or denied these lies. 2184 02:58:29,590 --> 02:58:34,650 She has participated in viewing these posts and one can only infer if their name is being 2185 02:58:34,650 --> 02:58:40,050 used to evoke a race-bake attack on another citizen they would step into correct false information. 2186 02:58:40,730 --> 02:58:46,070 This was not done. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that not only was this stranger 2187 02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:50,070 Mr. Jeane fed this information by council of clergy, but he acted on her behalf. 2188 02:58:50,590 --> 02:58:54,650 A review of my community contributions will show I have aided in the advancement of 2189 02:58:54,650 --> 02:58:56,390 patients and all people in this community. 2190 02:58:56,910 --> 02:58:59,390 A review of my police interactions here will prove. 2191 02:58:59,710 --> 02:59:03,070 I have never called the police on Haitian families or Haitian owned businesses. 2192 02:59:03,590 --> 02:59:06,750 A review of my community involvement will prove I have never organized 2193 02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:08,910 both boycotts against Haitian businesses. 2194 02:59:09,770 --> 02:59:13,650 I believe the town council has a duty of care to put systems in place that 2195 02:59:13,650 --> 02:59:15,790 and she was all members of our community assay. 2196 02:59:16,070 --> 02:59:19,030 I believe the town council body should uphold this duty 2197 02:59:19,030 --> 02:59:21,210 regardless of their dislike for community members. 2198 02:59:21,650 --> 02:59:24,150 I believe the town council body should remain truthful 2199 02:59:24,150 --> 02:59:26,030 according to ethical codes 2200 02:59:26,030 --> 02:59:27,790 they abound by the state of Massachusetts. 2201 02:59:28,510 --> 02:59:29,890 I have found that council of clergy 2202 02:59:29,890 --> 02:59:31,570 is the mastermind behind this attack 2203 02:59:31,570 --> 02:59:33,390 with entices violence against me. 2204 02:59:33,950 --> 02:59:35,010 Compromises my duties 2205 02:59:35,010 --> 02:59:37,190 per my employment as a public school clinician 2206 02:59:37,710 --> 02:59:40,670 and a family therapist for the state who visits JL's, 2207 02:59:40,670 --> 02:59:43,170 prisons, institutions, hospitals, homeschools, 2208 02:59:43,170 --> 02:59:45,830 and other high crime areas in this state. 2209 02:59:46,350 --> 02:59:48,910 I believe council of court of silence is an omission 2210 02:59:48,910 --> 02:59:52,130 of participation in support considering she has been privy 2211 02:59:52,130 --> 02:59:54,290 to the content on several platforms. 2212 02:59:54,930 --> 02:59:56,830 I believe this acts that the president said 2213 02:59:56,830 --> 02:59:59,970 it was okay for town council members to perpetuate racial 2214 03:00:10,540 --> 03:00:29,480 I have received several phone calls this week, telling me to be careful. I am greatly concerned regarding the risk that Council of Persia has placed me in. I am calling on the town council to review my concerns, holding Council of Persia or Council as they see fit. For my protection, I have been in communication with the Randolph Police in Quincy District Court. 2215 03:00:29,480 --> 03:00:37,160 I want to be clear that I am taking this racially charged attack seriously and I call on the Tom Council to investigate this matter as well 2216 03:00:37,760 --> 03:00:44,800 Taking a stand against further devices and racially charged motives and attacks that continues to play out commuting at the hands of council for a 2217 03:00:44,800 --> 03:00:51,620 Derrick. I am hoping for a private meeting with all council members to come to a resolution where I and my family feel safe in my community 2218 03:00:51,620 --> 03:00:59,460 Where my child can remain safe as a public school student in this community where I can freely visit any Haitian business in this community without face 2219 03:00:59,480 --> 03:01:04,380 I currently have a target on my back. I find myself checking my vehicle tires everywhere I go. 2220 03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:07,020 Just worry about whether someone has come after me. 2221 03:01:07,660 --> 03:01:11,660 This no longer a matter of political differences, but matter of my safety, 2222 03:01:11,980 --> 03:01:18,960 being able to function in my community, participate in all I have invested in without fear or intimidation from council in Natasha Flurger. 2223 03:01:19,320 --> 03:01:25,720 I look forward to hearing back from the town council majority voice president Adams and or town attorney on the town council 2224 03:01:25,720 --> 03:01:29,500 to review on my concern as a resident and citizen, 2225 03:01:29,920 --> 03:01:30,640 paying regards. 2226 03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:36,820 Any other questions? 2227 03:01:37,160 --> 03:01:37,560 Sorry, yep. 2228 03:01:37,600 --> 03:01:38,200 Any other questions? 2229 03:01:38,480 --> 03:01:39,840 Mr. President, Councilor Clinton. 2230 03:01:41,140 --> 03:01:44,100 I did not receive that coffee sponge. 2231 03:01:44,280 --> 03:01:45,420 Was that sent to all the Councillors? 2232 03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:47,480 I didn't get it originally. 2233 03:01:47,860 --> 03:01:49,840 Someone told me about it and forwarded to me. 2234 03:01:50,280 --> 03:01:51,220 So I don't know. 2235 03:01:52,500 --> 03:01:55,700 I imagine it must have been tried to be sent to everyone. 2236 03:01:56,460 --> 03:01:58,300 I did get a copy of the email. 2237 03:01:58,740 --> 03:02:05,660 right and I think you might have been the one that forwarded to me days later so 2238 03:02:06,900 --> 03:02:10,500 there is a header on here that looks like it was sent to you but it may have a 2239 03:02:10,500 --> 03:02:16,430 typo in it so he was not sent to me it was like it was do you want to see it 2240 03:02:21,370 --> 03:02:23,670 sure everybody else received a copy I 2241 03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:35,930 don't know what can I see it for a second my 2242 03:02:35,930 --> 03:02:39,710 My town email was not working. 2243 03:02:41,970 --> 03:02:45,610 This one's, oh yeah, it's all the town email addresses. 2244 03:02:46,650 --> 03:02:47,870 Do the data is on there? 2245 03:02:48,650 --> 03:02:49,750 You didn't get one there? 2246 03:02:49,990 --> 03:02:50,630 No, I didn't do it. 2247 03:02:50,790 --> 03:02:55,690 The 24th, I believe, of August, 12, 13 a.m. 2248 03:02:58,470 --> 03:02:59,230 12, 38. 2249 03:03:01,130 --> 03:03:02,910 Do you have to have said no more correspondence? 2250 03:03:10,720 --> 03:03:17,660 I think we talked a lot about tribe word already. Bill, I was at the meeting with you. Do you want to speak any more to it? 2251 03:03:17,860 --> 03:03:27,360 No. I think Helen did a great job in the presentation. She spoke at length at what we did on Thursday. 2252 03:03:27,360 --> 03:03:34,860 Yesterday, we do have another meeting on the 26th, where we'll be interviewing the 2253 03:03:37,480 --> 03:03:42,140 design selection, going through the design selection process. 2254 03:03:43,020 --> 03:03:45,760 So I'll be back to reports of one. 2255 03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:48,200 Other committee reports. 2256 03:03:49,320 --> 03:03:55,220 With the library, Liz sent me an email before this meeting started for some of the upcoming events. 2257 03:03:56,260 --> 03:04:10,280 Voter registration, you can come to the library to register to vote on National Voter Registration Day on September 24th from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m., a huge thanks to the clerk's office for their collaboration on it. 2258 03:04:10,280 --> 03:04:19,320 They have a library ice cream party, clever name there, in celebration of library card sign-up month. 2259 03:04:19,660 --> 03:04:24,680 We're having a raffle in ice cream party on September 20th at 11 a.m. 2260 03:04:25,700 --> 03:04:35,340 Stop by the library before then to enter into a raffle by signing up for a new library card or leaving a comment about how you use the library card you already have. 2261 03:04:35,340 --> 03:04:43,560 There's going to be an author coming before us on September 28th at 1 p.m., for a discussion with Dr. 2262 03:04:43,980 --> 03:04:49,740 Luneen Pierre-Jérôme, translator of Alice Walker's The Color Purple, Intahation Creole. 2263 03:04:50,340 --> 03:04:55,500 And thank you to the Library Initiative for Teens and Twins for an $8,000 grant that 2264 03:04:55,500 --> 03:05:00,200 money's being used to fund a filmmaking club, additional furniture in the heavily used 2265 03:05:00,200 --> 03:05:05,740 team room and a collaborative mural with local artists Jamal Eversley, teens can submit 2266 03:05:05,740 --> 03:05:11,260 their art envisioning themselves as superheroes for the mural to teen library and miss Melissa. 2267 03:05:12,180 --> 03:05:16,540 And just to be clear, it's not stated in here, but we think of superheroes like Superman, 2268 03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:21,520 but firefighters, police officers, nurses, I'm sure those would count just as well. 2269 03:05:22,640 --> 03:05:23,920 Anything from schools? 2270 03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:32,460 yes sir. The last school committee meeting last Thursday we had voted on new 2271 03:05:32,460 --> 03:05:41,300 chairs for no subcommittees and they won the meeting before that to Thursday 2272 03:05:41,300 --> 03:05:54,710 so come. I was August 26 if I'm not mistaken was the opening of teachers at the 2273 03:05:54,710 --> 03:06:02,390 public schools and I'm kind of emotional so I'm sorry the day started with the 2274 03:06:02,390 --> 03:06:13,150 the band the RHS band playing wonderful music and we have all faculty and 2275 03:06:13,150 --> 03:06:19,770 staff were giving help me cancel a half-lamon we were giving like a color and 2276 03:06:19,770 --> 03:06:24,890 in the number, provided in activities for the movie building activities. 2277 03:06:24,890 --> 03:06:25,110 Yes. 2278 03:06:25,730 --> 03:06:26,030 Wonderful. 2279 03:06:26,410 --> 03:06:26,630 Yes. 2280 03:06:26,950 --> 03:06:31,350 And of course, we want the ex-job team. 2281 03:06:32,810 --> 03:06:38,910 We were team Blue 3 and yep, the best, of course, we were two counselors. 2282 03:06:38,910 --> 03:06:39,690 We had to win. 2283 03:06:41,110 --> 03:06:48,270 And so each group had a series of activities that had to involve team building like she 2284 03:06:48,270 --> 03:06:57,170 said and the collaboration and activities were various and it addressed everyone whether 2285 03:06:57,170 --> 03:07:02,050 you were very athletic or physically challenged so everybody was included. 2286 03:07:02,630 --> 03:07:09,950 And the purpose of that morning was to welcome the teachers, welcome them back and then 2287 03:07:09,950 --> 03:07:12,070 and we viewed the vision and the values 2288 03:07:12,390 --> 03:07:16,210 and included values learning styles and choice. 2289 03:07:17,770 --> 03:07:18,950 It was very fun. 2290 03:07:19,530 --> 03:07:20,550 I had a lot of fun. 2291 03:07:20,650 --> 03:07:22,650 Concealer Halflamon had mad fun. 2292 03:07:23,350 --> 03:07:25,190 The teachers, everybody were there. 2293 03:07:25,770 --> 03:07:27,310 And it was very, 2294 03:07:28,870 --> 03:07:31,670 seeing how the superintendent set the tone 2295 03:07:32,310 --> 03:07:33,930 of the studying of a great day. 2296 03:07:34,170 --> 03:07:35,310 I commend her for that. 2297 03:07:35,590 --> 03:07:38,950 And she hope everybody has a great school year. 2298 03:07:40,270 --> 03:07:43,950 Okay, that's all for school, so the rest I'll do it. 2299 03:07:44,230 --> 03:07:45,710 Question, Councillor Goldstein. 2300 03:07:45,990 --> 03:07:47,890 Do you have the enrollment number, yet? 2301 03:07:49,050 --> 03:07:50,010 She was right there. 2302 03:07:50,410 --> 03:07:51,470 He asked her. 2303 03:07:52,090 --> 03:07:53,290 She asked for something else. 2304 03:07:54,410 --> 03:07:58,290 Okay, so enrollment numbers, because what they said, 2305 03:07:58,710 --> 03:08:01,990 it's like kids keep coming every day, so they don't have to. 2306 03:08:01,990 --> 03:08:06,510 Yeah, but at some point, the number, I just want to know the 2307 03:08:06,510 --> 03:08:11,710 You know, whether we're up or we're down or even no, it's going up going up 2308 03:08:11,710 --> 03:08:14,590 But I can't take it right now, okay 2309 03:08:15,670 --> 03:08:18,810 And the other uh any other committee reports 2310 03:08:19,430 --> 03:08:26,250 All right onto council comments. I'll start back with you counselor cliche. Um comics. Okay 2311 03:08:27,610 --> 03:08:29,910 Cooking with Natasha is back. Yay 2312 03:08:30,570 --> 03:08:34,030 Every Wednesday, 4.30 to 6.30, it's going to be at the 2313 03:08:34,030 --> 03:08:38,570 swing of water's church for 3.47. 2314 03:08:38,810 --> 03:08:40,730 3.47, not main street. 2315 03:08:41,570 --> 03:08:43,730 And it is completely free of charge. 2316 03:08:43,730 --> 03:08:46,730 You don't need any kind of fees whatsoever. 2317 03:08:47,550 --> 03:08:51,850 And we're hoping to get everybody, boys, girls, men, 2318 03:08:52,150 --> 03:08:56,010 women, seniors, everybody's invited. 2319 03:08:56,010 --> 03:09:04,090 And, contrary, from the community center where we could only have 15 people and then 2320 03:09:04,090 --> 03:09:08,610 at the church kitchen, we can have as many as we can get. 2321 03:09:09,930 --> 03:09:16,090 And the food and for-use distribution, this Thursday is going to be special because on 2322 03:09:16,090 --> 03:09:22,250 top of the food and for-use, we're going to give you back to school items provided from 2323 03:09:24,330 --> 03:09:27,890 and for the people who don't know who the citizens are, 2324 03:09:28,450 --> 03:09:30,330 they are the volunteers behind. 2325 03:09:30,610 --> 03:09:34,290 It's like an army of volunteers behind the food and food distribution. 2326 03:09:34,870 --> 03:09:40,370 I'm not going to take credit for myself because we have a lot of people working together. 2327 03:09:41,590 --> 03:09:44,530 Consular Ghostin, this report is for you as well. 2328 03:09:44,690 --> 03:09:45,650 Thank you for your attention. 2329 03:09:47,010 --> 03:09:48,990 Because your voice is coming out from the mic. 2330 03:09:49,650 --> 03:09:50,490 Consular Ghostin? 2331 03:09:50,490 --> 03:09:57,610 Yes, I have you. Thank you kind of disturbing because I can hear what you guys are saying 2332 03:09:58,190 --> 03:09:59,210 Thank you 2333 03:09:59,210 --> 03:10:03,490 English is not my first language is the sixth one, so please. Thank you 2334 03:10:04,510 --> 03:10:10,970 Yeah, on top of giving you back to school items is gonna be a little party from four from two to four 2335 03:10:10,970 --> 03:10:18,350 Where zoom by instructor volunteers are trying to come do some zoom by dance with us 2336 03:10:20,930 --> 03:10:30,090 Last but not least, we have the ABCDs of self-sufficiency that's a program that I put together 2337 03:10:30,090 --> 03:10:37,290 and I did send a letter to Superintendent Dia Stover because I wanted to do it at the young school. 2338 03:10:38,450 --> 03:10:45,510 She takes this a great idea, so it consists of helping people who have been out of work, 2339 03:10:45,510 --> 03:10:53,370 Like, single mothers, fathers, grandmas, if they want to go back to work and young kids too, 2340 03:10:54,490 --> 03:10:58,950 I know the youth council is doing a great job and we want to include that. 2341 03:10:59,410 --> 03:11:01,190 Like, exceed that to the whole town. 2342 03:11:01,970 --> 03:11:06,010 Young folks who want to learn how to conduct an interview, 2343 03:11:06,730 --> 03:11:13,610 how to write a resume, proper etiquette when you're going to a job interview 2344 03:11:13,610 --> 03:11:18,470 or if you want to create your own business, we're going to sit down, which you first 2345 03:11:18,470 --> 03:11:25,110 of all find out what is your passion because to create your own business, if you're not 2346 03:11:25,110 --> 03:11:30,210 passionate about it, you're not going to succeed and then walk you through getting your 2347 03:11:30,210 --> 03:11:35,290 EI number, fighting for the proper licensing with town and everything. 2348 03:11:35,810 --> 03:11:41,710 So I'm hoping to get the youth council's support, everybody wants to support it and the 2349 03:11:41,710 --> 03:11:43,630 and it is very excited about it. 2350 03:11:44,190 --> 03:11:48,150 And we have two weeks, we want to back up it, back it up. 2351 03:11:48,850 --> 03:11:53,070 And since we don't have the means yet, 2352 03:11:53,450 --> 03:11:55,950 how to accept because I wanted it 2353 03:11:55,950 --> 03:11:57,510 to be like a completely free thing. 2354 03:11:57,810 --> 03:12:00,050 I didn't know people wanted to donate towards it. 2355 03:12:00,470 --> 03:12:02,770 We don't know yet how to accept the money. 2356 03:12:02,890 --> 03:12:07,310 I'm talking about with your humanitarian focus foundation, 2357 03:12:07,510 --> 03:12:10,850 which is an nonprofit to kind of umbrella. 2358 03:12:10,850 --> 03:12:15,810 the program, they're out at the United Nations and they're very excited about it. 2359 03:12:15,830 --> 03:12:19,010 Once we figure it out, we're going to announce it at the young school. 2360 03:12:19,790 --> 03:12:21,270 And this concludes my report. 2361 03:12:21,510 --> 03:12:21,790 Thank you. 2362 03:12:22,110 --> 03:12:22,630 Councilor Clinton. 2363 03:12:23,050 --> 03:12:23,890 Thank you, Mr. President. 2364 03:12:24,730 --> 03:12:32,510 Mr. President, as you were, the Bahamas was devastated by a horrific hurricane. 2365 03:12:33,910 --> 03:12:39,130 And the country is in dire need of assistance. 2366 03:12:39,130 --> 03:12:51,970 And as you were further, that Randolph is always in the front in terms of its humanitarian services. 2367 03:12:53,070 --> 03:13:04,350 And so we've identified three locations where urgently needed supplies could be brought to. 2368 03:13:04,350 --> 03:13:15,890 And so I want to thank Tom Manager Brian Howard for coordinating with me these locations, 2369 03:13:16,490 --> 03:13:23,430 which include the Turner Free Library, Spring of Water, Christian Assembly, and Tony 2370 03:13:23,430 --> 03:13:25,830 the Taylor's and dry cleaners. 2371 03:13:25,830 --> 03:13:37,330 I spoke with the ambassador of the Bahamas and she is aware of what we are doing in 2372 03:13:37,330 --> 03:13:37,810 Randolph. 2373 03:13:38,330 --> 03:13:46,310 And she wanted to extend her gratitude and her country's gratitude, as you were the 2374 03:13:46,310 --> 03:13:57,170 the U.S. Coast Guard has also been instrumental in terms of rescuing many 2375 03:13:57,170 --> 03:14:05,970 Bahamians who are still in need of being rescued. It's still unknown how many 2376 03:14:05,970 --> 03:14:16,300 fatalities they have been. The Minister of Health indicated that he's 2377 03:14:16,300 --> 03:14:21,600 reluctant to give the number because it will be shocking and traumatizing for many of 2378 03:14:21,600 --> 03:14:23,900 the Bahamian and Caribbean citizens. 2379 03:14:25,240 --> 03:14:35,180 So I'm hoping that citizens of Randolph, as usual, could come together and please give 2380 03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:37,360 whatever that they can give. 2381 03:14:38,020 --> 03:14:41,760 The country is in desperate, desperate shape. 2382 03:14:42,460 --> 03:14:43,180 Thank you, Mr. President. 2383 03:14:48,560 --> 03:14:52,980 They say something about not wanting certain names like clothes don't send a lot of 2384 03:14:53,620 --> 03:14:59,920 No, the two the two the two initiatives being launched one and I have that on my Facebook page a few 2385 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:23,080 If you want to make a contribution, financial contribution, there's some instructions that you follow. And if you want to donate clothing and so on and so on, supplies, there's another initiative. So there are a number of locations that have been identified throughout the country where citizens can take the various supplies. 2386 03:15:24,040 --> 03:15:30,340 So President, quickly this, because I just received a text again, there's a resident 2387 03:15:30,340 --> 03:15:38,500 that's been complaining about Gloria Ward, so I just want to ask the message so she 2388 03:15:38,500 --> 03:15:43,800 would like her street to be looked at because it's been 60 years I think since they never 2389 03:15:43,800 --> 03:15:46,200 did anything, so that's the text I just received again. 2390 03:15:46,560 --> 03:15:47,320 Thank you Mr. President. 2391 03:15:47,320 --> 03:15:52,340 Councillor Bridges. Thank you. I am supporting a T-shirt. 2392 03:15:53,200 --> 03:16:01,600 Sir, it's easy to say. With Leo Cooney. This weekend was a great event of all walks 2393 03:16:01,600 --> 03:16:06,600 of Randolph. Leo is suffering from ALS, Lou Gerricks. He's just a couple years old and 2394 03:16:06,600 --> 03:16:14,540 I am. So I think if you like this T-shirt, go to Leo Cooney's site and you may be able to 2395 03:16:14,540 --> 03:16:22,060 But it was a good event to a lot of random people, new, old, home like nine years, so it was really nice. 2396 03:16:25,380 --> 03:16:31,000 When will we appoint, or have on our agenda, the appointment of Cheryl Sassas, the town clerk, make your permit? 2397 03:16:31,520 --> 03:16:34,360 When is that going to happen? We have to ratify that appointment, correct? 2398 03:16:35,440 --> 03:16:40,920 Any ratification would come, because it's a departmental position it would come, it would come with the town council correct. 2399 03:16:41,700 --> 03:16:43,980 Do we know when this is going to happen? After the election? 2400 03:16:43,980 --> 03:16:48,000 You know, oh wow, I've got to go through the process. 2401 03:16:49,620 --> 03:16:51,960 So I haven't started the process yet. 2402 03:16:52,600 --> 03:16:54,000 OK, just my opinion. 2403 03:16:55,860 --> 03:16:58,460 Similarly, you were doing the job, but you deserve the job. 2404 03:16:58,860 --> 03:16:59,640 She's doing the job. 2405 03:16:59,880 --> 03:17:00,760 I think she deserves a job. 2406 03:17:01,760 --> 03:17:05,400 So Erin, I would like to see it on the agenda at some point. 2407 03:17:07,820 --> 03:17:12,800 We had a request on the Purple Hots signs. 2408 03:17:13,820 --> 03:17:16,380 We just had a request for 300 dollars to fund them. 2409 03:17:17,560 --> 03:17:29,720 I'm going to double check with, I thought that Renee covered through the Veterans Council in with some funds that have in coca-cats. 2410 03:17:29,800 --> 03:17:34,720 So I got a double check on that, but my understanding is I mean, it's short money. 2411 03:17:34,720 --> 03:17:39,780 It's certainly something that during the presentations play what they will support. 2412 03:17:39,960 --> 03:17:41,520 Yeah, you'll reach out to Jerry Guilta. 2413 03:17:42,440 --> 03:17:46,300 Yeah, I said there wasn't any communication with Mr. Guil. 2414 03:17:47,440 --> 03:17:48,760 But I'll look further into it. 2415 03:17:50,100 --> 03:17:54,960 A few weeks ago, I asked you to get me some information, and I don't know how you want to handle it, but. 2416 03:17:57,020 --> 03:18:00,940 A few weeks back, I requested if I want to lick a violation of 61 Pleasant Street. 2417 03:18:01,860 --> 03:18:10,160 It's a commercial building primarily used as an adult daycare setting, and I believe it's licensed somehow by Department of Health, Public Health. 2418 03:18:10,820 --> 03:18:22,860 On our about July 2nd, 2019, a one-day liquor license, now we don't want to give liquor licenses to go to the licensing board, was requested by Council of Natasha Closure, doing business as our company. 2419 03:18:23,940 --> 03:18:29,200 The license was given by licensing board without a public hearing, which is required by law. 2420 03:18:29,200 --> 03:18:33,400 And without the paperwork being completed, at least there isn't any in the office. 2421 03:18:34,260 --> 03:18:43,380 On July 6th at 61 Pleasant Street, a party was held allegedly using this one day liquor license, 2422 03:18:43,860 --> 03:18:46,860 even though the actual physical license had never been issued. 2423 03:18:47,800 --> 03:18:53,580 Around 11 o'clock or so, the Randolph police responded to 61 Pleasant Street after seeing strobe lights, 2424 03:18:55,730 --> 03:18:58,330 which is a sign of fire protection going off. 2425 03:18:58,330 --> 03:19:04,830 Upon arrival there, there were individuals who were at the party and are running the party 2426 03:19:04,830 --> 03:19:10,910 who were actually in the act of dismantling the fires of the Persian system in the Alam. 2427 03:19:11,650 --> 03:19:15,070 They have been fined, I believe, by the fight of Alam, you can confirm that, please. 2428 03:19:16,150 --> 03:19:18,610 They actually went to deactivate the fire system. 2429 03:19:20,940 --> 03:19:24,360 There are more than a few concerns, but let's start with a couple. 2430 03:19:25,380 --> 03:19:29,620 The licensing board must hold a public hearing, which they didn't. 2431 03:19:29,620 --> 03:19:36,200 And that, that the voters voted in the charter, the role of the licensing board. 2432 03:19:37,320 --> 03:19:39,800 And not only is it the charter, but it's chapter 138. 2433 03:19:40,720 --> 03:19:48,520 The law says a one-day liquor license can only be given for non-profits, which she is not. 2434 03:19:50,650 --> 03:19:58,750 61 Pleasant Street is an adult day kiss center, and it's not a venue for 2435 03:19:59,390 --> 03:20:04,550 entertainment to look or anything else. So I'm concerned how we choose to, where we're 2436 03:20:04,550 --> 03:20:10,830 going to have one of the events. We have a fire report stating the attempt to dismantle 2437 03:20:10,830 --> 03:20:16,910 the fire box, which I believe all other counselors received. We have a police report that states 2438 03:20:16,910 --> 03:20:22,390 upon the returns of station by the officer, the dispatcher advised the officer that he 2439 03:20:22,390 --> 03:20:28,050 received a phone call from said counselor who wanted the police to leave and allow the 2440 03:20:28,050 --> 03:20:29,910 party to continue, which is in the police report, 2441 03:20:32,250 --> 03:20:35,210 the public has an expectation that our 2442 03:20:35,210 --> 03:20:42,330 liquor policies and laws are going to be upheld. So I'd like to know, one, if this council 2443 03:20:42,330 --> 03:20:48,570 is going to take any action relative to licensing board, I don't know if there is any we can't 2444 03:20:48,570 --> 03:20:55,490 take, and what action is going to be taken to ensure that the liquor policies are going 2445 03:20:55,490 --> 03:20:56,910 to be upheld. 2446 03:20:57,630 --> 03:21:05,210 You may not have the answers tonight, but that documentation is here, and so I would 2447 03:21:05,210 --> 03:21:06,370 like to respond to some point. 2448 03:21:09,510 --> 03:21:11,450 I'm assuming you don't want to deal with that right now. 2449 03:21:12,810 --> 03:21:15,050 I would have to do some additional work. 2450 03:21:15,350 --> 03:21:15,430 Okay. 2451 03:21:17,530 --> 03:21:18,630 Just a couple other things. 2452 03:21:19,330 --> 03:21:23,190 Our I-O-I-S-B-A and ownership and pride, they are sponsoring a close partnership 2453 03:21:23,190 --> 03:21:27,610 I think the haunted Hayride and Trick or Trunk this October, the 25th and 26th. 2454 03:21:28,310 --> 03:21:35,530 The 26th is for the Trick or Trunk, which is in coordination, again this year, with the Randolph Community Center for the Children's Halloween party. 2455 03:21:37,540 --> 03:21:41,760 We have the event, well, I'll have to deal with that on the wreck. 2456 03:21:43,040 --> 03:21:51,040 Invets, the POWA breakfast is at 10 a.m. on September 22nd, and that's all I've got. 2457 03:21:52,060 --> 03:21:53,960 Councillor Allen Exopolis. 2458 03:21:54,540 --> 03:21:55,960 Thank you, Mr. President. 2459 03:21:56,980 --> 03:22:02,700 Brian, I received an email from a resident who lives at one Army Street. 2460 03:22:03,900 --> 03:22:06,000 They have a tree in their backyard. 2461 03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:15,760 I don't know if it's their backyard, but somewhere along the property it has two guide wires from 2462 03:22:15,760 --> 03:22:24,000 poll number six on Wilson Street and they wish to have that tree cut down but 2463 03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:29,700 you have two guidewires in it so can we get it. Can I touch on this because he called me? 2464 03:22:30,160 --> 03:22:35,500 Okay, I mean it's a national grid issue that needs to be addressed by 2465 03:22:35,500 --> 03:22:42,100 national grid because they have to secure that poll on Wilson Street. We have 2466 03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:46,100 Keith looking at it because they went out and actually viewed the property to see 2467 03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:49,980 where it was if it was actually in his or Oz or whatever, and it's a healthy tree. 2468 03:22:50,700 --> 03:22:55,960 So I asked Keith to kind of have that conversation with them, but right now they're not in the market to cut it down. 2469 03:22:56,400 --> 03:23:01,780 Okay, but if they cut it down, they own a cut it down, then they still have to put a telephone call on this property. 2470 03:23:01,980 --> 03:23:03,060 Yeah, they have to do something. 2471 03:23:03,180 --> 03:23:08,540 I don't know if they have to put a, it's, poll number six is like right at the corner of the street. 2472 03:23:08,780 --> 03:23:11,360 So you don't have to probably put a link to me. 2473 03:23:11,360 --> 03:23:17,500 He says, put a poll across the street as a guidewire poll to hold the poll across the street. 2474 03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:24,540 I think Keith is trying to convince that it's in their interest to address this issue. 2475 03:23:26,160 --> 03:23:27,320 So I'll look into it. 2476 03:23:27,540 --> 03:23:27,740 Okay. 2477 03:23:27,960 --> 03:23:28,680 It's one army. 2478 03:23:28,680 --> 03:23:29,540 It's one army street. 2479 03:23:29,920 --> 03:23:31,060 I haven't talked to Keith. 2480 03:23:31,260 --> 03:23:37,180 I said, I got the email on the sixth, I went down and took a look at it over the weekend. 2481 03:23:37,180 --> 03:23:41,720 and saw what the homeowners was talking about. 2482 03:23:42,800 --> 03:23:46,280 The other thing that I wanted to let everybody know 2483 03:23:46,280 --> 03:23:50,600 in town is my church in Brockton's 2484 03:23:50,600 --> 03:23:52,100 Ponce is an annual food festival. 2485 03:23:52,920 --> 03:23:55,220 It's the Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church. 2486 03:23:55,820 --> 03:23:57,160 It's at 257 Oak Street. 2487 03:23:57,780 --> 03:24:02,400 And they have a food festival on September 19th 2488 03:24:02,400 --> 03:24:05,080 through the 22nd, that's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 2489 03:24:05,080 --> 03:24:15,840 with the hours being Thursday 11 to 9, 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Friday and Saturday 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. and Sunday noon to 6. 2490 03:24:16,060 --> 03:24:22,200 So if you want some good homemade Greek cooking, come on down. I'll be there somewhere cooking. 2491 03:24:23,320 --> 03:24:26,840 What were the dates again? You can have that sent electronically to us please. 2492 03:24:27,260 --> 03:24:28,840 Absolutely. I'll send a flyer. 2493 03:24:30,240 --> 03:24:35,320 Thursday, the 19th through Sunday, September 22nd. 2494 03:24:39,240 --> 03:24:40,220 I'll send this live. 2495 03:24:40,980 --> 03:24:41,260 Thank you. 2496 03:24:41,300 --> 03:24:41,740 That's all I have. 2497 03:24:42,180 --> 03:24:42,760 Councillor Affleman. 2498 03:24:43,400 --> 03:24:44,140 Thank you, Mr. President. 2499 03:24:48,140 --> 03:24:55,780 So last week, was it last week, the Haitian Chamber had a wonderful networking event, and 2500 03:24:55,780 --> 03:25:00,020 I just wanted to thank the Chamber for having this event. 2501 03:25:00,020 --> 03:25:04,160 and I think it was a great opportunity to meet businesses 2502 03:25:04,160 --> 03:25:07,760 in the Asian community, and just to talk to individuals. 2503 03:25:08,460 --> 03:25:10,320 So I appreciate that event. 2504 03:25:15,610 --> 03:25:19,610 I'm writing any word on North Street. 2505 03:25:20,490 --> 03:25:24,030 There's lots of work that's being done around the community. 2506 03:25:25,130 --> 03:25:27,610 I was under the impression that it was gonna be done Friday. 2507 03:25:27,790 --> 03:25:28,810 That's why I- 2508 03:25:28,810 --> 03:25:32,670 you would text me right right I'm gonna follow up again Keith was out the 2509 03:25:32,670 --> 03:25:38,670 majority of the day okay today I saw him here at the meeting right I haven't 2510 03:25:38,670 --> 03:25:43,090 had an opportunity to speak to him as to why didn't occur when we thought it 2511 03:25:43,090 --> 03:25:47,710 was but I would think that it's gonna happen shortly because all of South 2512 03:25:47,710 --> 03:25:53,690 Main Street was taken care of on Friday so really yeah okay so North Street though 2513 03:25:53,690 --> 03:25:57,730 have a couple of places where that has not been 2514 03:25:57,730 --> 03:25:59,650 But I anticipated that it was going to be done then. 2515 03:25:59,950 --> 03:26:00,770 So I'm going to find out. 2516 03:26:01,010 --> 03:26:01,910 All of North Street. 2517 03:26:02,310 --> 03:26:02,970 That's my understanding. 2518 03:26:03,110 --> 03:26:03,370 OK. 2519 03:26:03,730 --> 03:26:03,870 All right. 2520 03:26:03,970 --> 03:26:04,250 Thank you. 2521 03:26:04,430 --> 03:26:04,830 All right. 2522 03:26:05,490 --> 03:26:07,470 Because the resident actually called me today. 2523 03:26:07,750 --> 03:26:08,770 So I appreciate that. 2524 03:26:08,930 --> 03:26:12,550 The other thing, Brian, there's a flu season initiative 2525 03:26:13,210 --> 03:26:17,310 that's, and I know Jane is no longer with us. 2526 03:26:17,470 --> 03:26:19,370 And I think this is something that she started. 2527 03:26:19,370 --> 03:26:21,870 So I'm wondering if that will still be going through. 2528 03:26:22,210 --> 03:26:23,450 Oh, those still be flu questions. 2529 03:26:23,650 --> 03:26:23,850 OK. 2530 03:26:24,250 --> 03:26:24,450 Oh, yeah. 2531 03:26:24,890 --> 03:26:25,190 OK. 2532 03:26:25,650 --> 03:26:26,070 Excellent. 2533 03:26:26,250 --> 03:26:26,610 Thank you. 2534 03:26:32,990 --> 03:26:47,950 Lastly, we have on Thursday, this Thursday, I want to get the flyer up so I can see there's a community meeting on the water issue hosted by myself and Councillor Clifton 630 to 8 o'clock. 2535 03:26:47,950 --> 03:27:17,450 I think it would be a nice addition to what happened today, and those who were unable to tune in or unable to come to the meeting, this is another opportunity for to hear about the water issues, but I think it would be a nice collaboration of what was said today, and what will be said on Thursday, and this meeting will be at RICC 128 Pleasant Street, and I think I said 630 to 830. 2536 03:27:17,450 --> 03:27:24,050 please come by if you have not had an opportunity to learn about some of the 2537 03:27:24,050 --> 03:27:31,610 water issues and how we are hoping to keep the community informed. Thank you. 2538 03:27:32,070 --> 03:27:36,510 The President, I've got a quick question about sidewalks from Mr. Howard. I 2539 03:27:36,510 --> 03:27:44,250 noticed the corner of North Street and Oak is also being done. With that 2540 03:27:44,250 --> 03:27:49,570 What impact the plan is that public safety has been working on? 2541 03:27:50,370 --> 03:27:57,130 The work that you're seeing or the work that's been getting done, Mastio T, has initiatives 2542 03:27:57,410 --> 03:28:11,290 where they've been going out into the communities and ensuring that the ramps but the grades at 2543 03:28:11,290 --> 03:28:15,510 the end of the street to the sidewalks are appropriate and in some cases they 2544 03:28:15,510 --> 03:28:18,830 weren't and that's where you're seeing the repairs and enhancements that are 2545 03:28:18,830 --> 03:28:25,530 going on. Yeah, we'll have to rip it up again when we do. I can't say for sure 2546 03:28:27,110 --> 03:28:31,870 tonight how that would impact what the council had previously voted. I have to 2547 03:28:31,870 --> 03:28:36,870 take a look. Yeah, I mean the whole curb line changes so yeah. We use the 2548 03:28:36,870 --> 03:28:44,890 material. So isn't it be done in coordination with us? I know that they reached out to the 2549 03:28:44,890 --> 03:28:53,850 DPW superintendent and I reached out to him after Councillor Mahern reached out to me. But 2550 03:28:53,850 --> 03:28:58,870 previous to that, I didn't have information on that. 2551 03:28:58,990 --> 03:29:00,190 All right. Thank you. 2552 03:29:00,190 --> 03:29:02,770 Can I just on the roads? 2553 03:29:03,330 --> 03:29:04,690 Can we take a look at Kylie Drive? 2554 03:29:05,850 --> 03:29:07,870 It's in a pretty bad shape. 2555 03:29:09,110 --> 03:29:11,890 See if I don't know where it is on the list. 2556 03:29:12,310 --> 03:29:16,430 But if we can be looked at and see if something can be done 2557 03:29:16,890 --> 03:29:20,070 temporary while we get it on the list, 2558 03:29:20,630 --> 03:29:21,490 if it's not every day. 2559 03:29:22,990 --> 03:29:24,230 Do you have one more thing? 2560 03:29:24,890 --> 03:29:25,910 Thank you, Mr. President. 2561 03:29:25,910 --> 03:29:32,350 And I also want to congratulate eight Randolph Youth Council members who are now off the 2562 03:29:32,350 --> 03:29:32,830 college. 2563 03:29:33,630 --> 03:29:40,770 This is the first meeting that I've had the opportunity to celebrate that they have 2564 03:29:40,770 --> 03:29:45,810 graduated from school and they're in a number of different colleges, but it is so proud 2565 03:29:45,810 --> 03:29:52,450 that the majority of these members, youth council members, were part of youth council for 2566 03:29:52,450 --> 03:29:59,970 since the beginning and now our alumni of the Randolph Youth Council and we're... 2567 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:23,620 We are extremely proud of them. And I'm also, I'm, I'm happy that, um, Jimmy, that you're doing the Halloween piece, because I know that's something that we did last couple of years, but due to all, uh, youth count, or the majority of the youth council members graduating, you know, we are now looking for new youth council members. 2568 03:30:26,220 --> 03:30:29,700 Really, they're wonderful. Um, so, 2569 03:30:29,700 --> 03:30:39,100 Well, they will be a flyer out on Facebook very soon, or you can definitely contact me 2570 03:30:39,700 --> 03:30:43,460 if you have a child that's interested in being part of the Youth Council. 2571 03:30:43,960 --> 03:30:44,700 Thank you. 2572 03:30:44,960 --> 03:30:45,840 Thank you, Mr. President. 2573 03:30:46,400 --> 03:30:47,100 Councilman's office. 2574 03:30:47,560 --> 03:30:48,220 Thank you, Mr. President. 2575 03:30:48,820 --> 03:30:55,860 We'll surprise no one touched based on it tonight, but the other day, Congresswoman Presley 2576 03:30:55,860 --> 03:31:01,820 made an appearance here in town and I was a little disappointed in the lack of leadership 2577 03:31:01,820 --> 03:31:07,360 by our council president, vice president, in the lack of communication and grandstanding 2578 03:31:07,360 --> 03:31:08,860 that took place during that. 2579 03:31:10,360 --> 03:31:15,680 It unfortunately, negatively affected residents, especially residents in my district and 2580 03:31:15,680 --> 03:31:24,100 in Arthur's district whose voices and needs and issues weren't voiced to the Congresswoman 2581 03:31:25,360 --> 03:31:30,300 It was also a little embarrassing that Tom Andrew Howard wasn't invited that our state 2582 03:31:30,300 --> 03:31:35,600 delegation wasn't there and that the residents as a whole weren't invited. 2583 03:31:36,080 --> 03:31:42,860 So I was greatly disappointed with that and how it wasn't effectively communicated to 2584 03:31:42,860 --> 03:31:43,700 the rest of the council. 2585 03:31:45,920 --> 03:31:51,620 Another thing, Randolph police is hosting their second annual charity golf tournament. 2586 03:31:51,620 --> 03:32:01,280 It will be this Sunday at the Eastern Country Club, the Petrolman Association, the Union rather local 18 puts on a great golf tournament. 2587 03:32:01,640 --> 03:32:12,620 They use the funds for their charity events throughout the year, and I greatly suggest that the residents try and help out, whether it's donations, local businesses doing the same. 2588 03:32:12,620 --> 03:32:18,880 If you're interested, I hope Troman Kevin Gilbert is spearheading it with 2589 03:32:18,880 --> 03:32:27,060 the Troman Matt Rodman and it's a great event for a great cause. And then Brian 2590 03:32:27,060 --> 03:32:32,800 I got an email I'll help forward it to you from a resident on Howard Ave about 2591 03:32:32,800 --> 03:32:36,880 tree condition. You can take a look at that. I'll forward you the photos that she 2592 03:32:36,880 --> 03:32:42,500 had sent me. Thank you. Just a point of personal privilege on I the 2593 03:32:42,500 --> 03:32:47,000 the point, Councillor Zapolis made, you know, I responded to a personal invitation, spoke 2594 03:32:47,000 --> 03:32:53,040 with the Congresswoman. Immediately following that meeting, I sent the contact information 2595 03:32:53,040 --> 03:32:58,040 for any Councillor who wanted to reach out and discuss their issues. I'm – I'd be 2596 03:32:58,040 --> 03:33:02,260 disappointed as well that I didn't receive an invitation, but I don't think you could point 2597 03:33:02,260 --> 03:33:07,760 to myself for any sort of grandstanding. So that's what I take issue with. 2598 03:33:07,760 --> 03:33:10,280 On social media photos on it, though. 2599 03:33:10,840 --> 03:33:13,420 I posted nothing, Councillor Goldstein. 2600 03:33:13,960 --> 03:33:14,080 No. 2601 03:33:14,660 --> 03:33:15,600 Councillor Goldstein. 2602 03:33:15,840 --> 03:33:21,960 For those older people in the audience, you'll probably remember, some of you will remember 2603 03:33:21,960 --> 03:33:25,820 the movie Cool Hand Luke, all right? 2604 03:33:26,140 --> 03:33:32,500 And the warden at Cool Hand Luke, in Cool Hand Luke, said to Paul Newman, you have a failure 2605 03:33:32,500 --> 03:33:33,420 to communicate. 2606 03:33:34,540 --> 03:33:37,200 Let me address the failure to communicate. 2607 03:33:38,260 --> 03:33:45,920 Recently there was an open letter to the public from certain councillors Ray, the disappointment 2608 03:33:45,920 --> 03:33:54,540 with not having a scheduled council meeting, and our disagreements should be discussed 2609 03:33:54,540 --> 03:34:01,300 by all of the council, rather than social media and other publications. 2610 03:34:05,320 --> 03:34:09,240 Thank you, Mr. President, I have a few things for Mr. Howard. 2611 03:34:09,920 --> 03:34:16,940 Do we have an update on the Rick leadership posting at this point as they're going to 2612 03:34:16,940 --> 03:34:19,080 be a re-or, is that public? 2613 03:34:20,180 --> 03:34:25,920 The Rick leadership, now that Jovan is gone, is there an update on that currently? 2614 03:34:26,740 --> 03:34:30,380 I suppose community programs in general. 2615 03:34:30,580 --> 03:34:31,300 RICC? 2616 03:34:31,400 --> 03:34:31,520 Yes. 2617 03:34:35,100 --> 03:34:45,600 As I had communicated by e-mails to the council a couple of weeks ago, we, I have lack of 2618 03:34:45,600 --> 03:34:54,920 a bit of a charge, the Library Director, Liz Larosi, and our Finance Director, Janine 2619 03:34:54,920 --> 03:34:59,260 Smith to conduct a review of the operation, 2620 03:34:59,440 --> 03:35:00,860 both from a financial standpoint, 2621 03:35:01,420 --> 03:35:04,100 but also from everything from programming to staffing, 2622 03:35:04,460 --> 03:35:09,280 to, there will actually be a community survey 2623 03:35:09,580 --> 03:35:13,820 that will be going out in the next few days. 2624 03:35:14,300 --> 03:35:16,880 So we can continue to get some additional input 2625 03:35:17,300 --> 03:35:18,140 from the public. 2626 03:35:19,360 --> 03:35:24,780 We're trying to make sure that as we take that 2627 03:35:24,780 --> 03:35:34,000 That next step, what that next step should be, I think it's clear that there are tremendous 2628 03:35:34,000 --> 03:35:35,400 positives with the community center. 2629 03:35:36,680 --> 03:35:42,080 I think we still have issues that we can, the one thing we've heard a number of times, 2630 03:35:42,420 --> 03:35:48,680 for example, when the dancing school came here was, okay, I have a child who is 70 years 2631 03:35:48,680 --> 03:35:49,020 of age. 2632 03:35:49,100 --> 03:35:54,060 However, separate of the dancing class, there isn't other things for me to want or need 2633 03:35:54,060 --> 03:36:00,580 a membership. Okay, well what can we do to do to do what we do better? So Liz has been 2634 03:36:00,580 --> 03:36:06,100 doing, she's been giving me an update weekly anyway but she's doing a further final review. 2635 03:36:07,740 --> 03:36:16,320 I am impressed with the body of work that she's been doing. I will say that the community center's 2636 03:36:16,320 --> 03:36:23,680 staff is very proud of what they do and the sense I get is they want to work with us as we move 2637 03:36:23,680 --> 03:36:48,600 forward with the community center, but we definitely have to look at what we do and how we do it and I felt that if I just went out and hired another director and didn't look at okay, the last year and a half to two years, where are we going, how are we getting there, I wouldn't be doing due diligence. 2638 03:36:48,600 --> 03:36:56,960 I certainly did not want to just fill the position until I determine what I think is in the best interested community to do so, so that is ongoing. 2639 03:36:57,400 --> 03:37:03,100 In the meantime, Liz also serves, if you will, as the interim director, as do I. 2640 03:37:03,460 --> 03:37:09,700 So if there's any questions from the staff, they reach out more likely to reach Liz and if there's any issues, they reach out to me. 2641 03:37:10,520 --> 03:37:13,840 Not going to avoid everything's been moving quite well. 2642 03:37:13,840 --> 03:37:14,840 Thank you. 2643 03:37:16,020 --> 03:37:22,500 Is there an update I don't know if this may be redundant from the meeting that I missed 2644 03:37:22,500 --> 03:37:33,480 last time on the talks with Senator Chimalti, Jeanine, and Thea with the budget gap that 2645 03:37:33,480 --> 03:37:34,340 we got from that? 2646 03:37:34,580 --> 03:37:34,820 Sure. 2647 03:37:34,820 --> 03:37:39,180 Yeah, basically we had a second meeting with the 2648 03:37:41,180 --> 03:37:46,100 the folks in Dessie that Senator Timmelty put together 2649 03:37:46,100 --> 03:37:50,180 with our state reps that were present. 2650 03:37:50,640 --> 03:37:53,540 They are and this kind of ties into office earlier question. 2651 03:37:54,060 --> 03:37:56,720 They're not even going to discuss options with the 2652 03:37:56,720 --> 03:37:59,600 communities until after October 1st because they want to know 2653 03:37:59,600 --> 03:38:02,680 exactly what the attendance numbers are statewide 2654 03:38:03,240 --> 03:38:06,760 in all of the school districts and when I say all the school districts that 2655 03:38:06,760 --> 03:38:11,200 includes the charter school districts because there were some changes in the 2656 03:38:11,200 --> 03:38:14,940 formula which we've talked about here that I've highlighted with the council. 2657 03:38:15,580 --> 03:38:23,780 So we don't know we've made our case but they and we made our case and they 2658 03:38:23,780 --> 03:38:27,700 did tell us we were the first community to actually come in and make its case 2659 03:38:28,220 --> 03:38:31,220 which was nice to hear, but they haven't determined yet 2660 03:38:32,400 --> 03:38:34,940 what that standard is going to be to get those additional funds. 2661 03:38:35,280 --> 03:38:37,700 And they're not going to make that determination's laugh for October 1st. 2662 03:38:37,920 --> 03:38:42,420 We're hoping by being as aggressive as we were and making the case 2663 03:38:42,420 --> 03:38:46,340 that as they come up with this formula, they're going to use for that $15 million 2664 03:38:46,960 --> 03:38:52,060 that they'll consider communities like Randolph and the needs that we have. 2665 03:38:54,680 --> 03:39:01,580 The first training path for me is I think what's happening is is that there are some newer 2666 03:39:01,580 --> 03:39:05,440 communities dealing with charter schools for the first time because there's some additional 2667 03:39:05,440 --> 03:39:06,500 charter schools that opened. 2668 03:39:07,140 --> 03:39:13,700 So I think there's kind of a rush to help them deal with it first, but we haven't quite 2669 03:39:14,180 --> 03:39:18,320 helped finish helping out the communities that have been dealing with it for 10 plus years. 2670 03:39:18,320 --> 03:39:26,180 And there is no community that I could find that has had the spike that we've had over that 10-year period. 2671 03:39:26,320 --> 03:39:28,980 Most communities had that spike leveled off. 2672 03:39:29,300 --> 03:39:36,100 But once they doubled the size of the charter school in Rockland Hall, 2673 03:39:36,660 --> 03:39:40,960 if you also show a charter, and then they opened up the charter school in Brockton, 2674 03:39:42,140 --> 03:39:46,760 it was, it had a very, very detrimental effect to us. 2675 03:39:46,760 --> 03:39:49,320 So we had, try to school open 10 years ago, 2676 03:39:50,360 --> 03:39:52,020 then we had it double in size, 2677 03:39:52,440 --> 03:39:54,560 and then we had a brand new one open up 2678 03:39:54,560 --> 03:39:55,900 within that same category. 2679 03:39:56,500 --> 03:39:59,940 Our big concern, and I wanna thank Superintendant 2680 03:39:59,940 --> 03:40:01,100 during the discussion, 2681 03:40:01,240 --> 03:40:04,920 she really highlighted, we're at a point now where we're capped. 2682 03:40:05,140 --> 03:40:08,880 Finally, so the damage isn't gonna get me worse. 2683 03:40:09,660 --> 03:40:12,360 That's great, that's a good thing. 2684 03:40:13,020 --> 03:40:15,080 But we wanna make sure that if they don't fix 2685 03:40:15,080 --> 03:40:18,820 the funding formula, you're going to run the risk of some of these communities that 2686 03:40:18,820 --> 03:40:23,240 finally have been able to do what they need to do to start to follow behind again, and 2687 03:40:23,240 --> 03:40:27,720 then the cap is gone, and then all of a sudden we're dealing with a very repetitive cycle 2688 03:40:28,220 --> 03:40:29,960 and that would not be a good thing. 2689 03:40:30,200 --> 03:40:33,620 So, about more to come, about more to come. 2690 03:40:35,000 --> 03:40:42,620 The last thing I have for you is I was talking to a resident at the farmers market a few 2691 03:40:42,620 --> 03:40:49,840 Wednesdays ago, and they brought up the issue of students crossing along Memorial Parkway 2692 03:40:49,840 --> 03:40:58,400 through the medium, right across the landscaping, and it's not just students, but at the time 2693 03:40:58,400 --> 03:41:00,980 there's just a lot of students and a lot of traffic. 2694 03:41:02,860 --> 03:41:12,200 And I wonder if we could do something that wouldn't compromise the visual integrity of landscaping 2695 03:41:12,200 --> 03:41:17,080 there if there was an invisible sort of like netting that we could or some sort of solution 2696 03:41:17,080 --> 03:41:22,360 we can come up with where there his problem was I should back up was that he couldn't 2697 03:41:22,360 --> 03:41:29,420 see the students coming out of the median one way or another and almost hit a student because 2698 03:41:29,420 --> 03:41:36,340 they were jumping out obviously not in a crosswalk and if there was a way to prevent folks 2699 03:41:36,340 --> 03:41:42,180 from crossing if that was you're saying they were crossing across the median right either 2700 03:41:44,840 --> 03:41:52,020 I mean, knock on wood, that doesn't happen often because I drive that all the time, but 2701 03:41:52,020 --> 03:41:54,420 it does happen, but it doesn't happen often. 2702 03:41:55,200 --> 03:42:01,280 I'm not sure part of the reason it was designed the way that it was was to make it so that 2703 03:42:01,280 --> 03:42:05,040 folks wouldn't want to travel through the bushes and over the trees. 2704 03:42:05,520 --> 03:42:06,060 We trim them. 2705 03:42:06,380 --> 03:42:08,420 When they trim them, they just, they trim them back too much. 2706 03:42:08,700 --> 03:42:09,800 They try to keep them like meat. 2707 03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:10,540 They shouldn't be meat. 2708 03:42:10,540 --> 03:42:12,100 There should be more kind of, just let them go. 2709 03:42:12,700 --> 03:42:17,600 You know, the hard part is that they are always trying to deal with when people pulling out of 2710 03:42:17,600 --> 03:42:21,120 Shaw's and they're taking a left or a right, then, you know, they want us to train 2711 03:42:21,120 --> 03:42:21,620 you further. 2712 03:42:22,000 --> 03:42:23,340 So we go to a lot of competing and- 2713 03:42:23,940 --> 03:42:27,640 Yeah, most of that Brian, though, when you get down, I mean, if you're keeping an eye, 2714 03:42:27,700 --> 03:42:32,180 just on that Shaw's piece, right where you, the traffic, the big traffic like when you exit 2715 03:42:32,180 --> 03:42:36,240 Shaw's, but the rest of it, especially by the admin building, you know, people do that 2716 03:42:36,240 --> 03:42:36,620 all the time. 2717 03:42:36,620 --> 03:42:38,020 And you can see the going path. 2718 03:42:39,560 --> 03:42:40,400 You're saying doubt. 2719 03:42:40,960 --> 03:42:41,820 I'd have to go look. 2720 03:42:41,940 --> 03:42:44,840 I mean, I, I, I can say is it's rare that I see somebody 2721 03:42:44,840 --> 03:42:46,580 crossing the hill part of it. 2722 03:42:46,960 --> 03:42:51,540 But, um, I mean, when I was a teenager at Randolph High, 2723 03:42:51,540 --> 03:42:52,220 those didn't exist. 2724 03:42:52,660 --> 03:42:54,520 But I can tell you that if they did, 2725 03:42:54,800 --> 03:42:56,840 depending on how much of a rush I'm, I probably 2726 03:42:56,840 --> 03:42:59,200 would have been not effectively getting over it. 2727 03:42:59,240 --> 03:43:00,100 So I was a big kid then too. 2728 03:43:00,260 --> 03:43:01,980 But, um, what we'll see we can do. 2729 03:43:02,440 --> 03:43:04,720 Um, it's, it's a tough, it's a tough thing to manage. 2730 03:43:04,720 --> 03:43:12,100 here. Oh thank you. One other thing I wanted two other things I wanted to 2731 03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:19,420 mention were the farmer's market has a few more Wednesdays before it closes 2732 03:43:19,420 --> 03:43:25,520 for the season so get down there Wednesday power farm, power farm three to 2733 03:43:25,520 --> 03:43:33,760 seven. I am doing a book program the majority of the Wednesdays down there so if 2734 03:43:33,760 --> 03:43:38,860 If you do have any used children's books, I'd love to take them off your hands and I 2735 03:43:38,860 --> 03:43:40,520 give them back free to the community. 2736 03:43:41,040 --> 03:43:47,580 I am looking for other events after the farmer's market to set a booth up, working with the 2737 03:43:47,580 --> 03:43:52,600 library as well to help expand that program to help promote literacy and reading. 2738 03:43:53,340 --> 03:43:55,040 It's very near and due to my heart. 2739 03:43:55,740 --> 03:44:02,620 And then the last thing I want to mention is just to take a moment out of everyone's day 2740 03:44:02,620 --> 03:44:10,220 on Wednesday just to remember the victims of 9-11, you know, it's going on a while now 2741 03:44:10,220 --> 03:44:18,640 that that took place and happened and it should never be forgotten as many days in our 2742 03:44:18,640 --> 03:44:23,740 history that are dark, have not been and I don't think we should forget that as well. 2743 03:44:23,740 --> 03:44:29,500 So I just wanted to mention that I don't know if the, I'm sure the Elks are doing something 2744 03:44:29,500 --> 03:44:34,400 I haven't heard that they are but they may be in something on social media. I believe 2745 03:44:34,400 --> 03:44:38,520 it's a 10-30. 10-30? On that day, right? On that day. It's 2746 03:44:38,520 --> 03:44:44,420 always the day of. Yeah, because I know I've been to the Elks before when 2747 03:44:44,420 --> 03:44:47,860 they do something but I hadn't heard about this year so if you can get down to the 2748 03:44:47,860 --> 03:44:51,720 Elks they do raise the flag. I believe I don't know what they'll be doing 2749 03:44:51,720 --> 03:44:55,760 exactly this year but in the US past they've raised the flag down prayers so on and 2750 03:44:55,760 --> 03:44:59,960 and so forth, 10-30, I suppose at the Elk's, thank you for that. 2751 03:45:00,110 --> 03:45:14,530 So if you can get down there, if not, you know, taking your own time to remember and thank those first responders who earn our life and take that risk every day. Other than that, yeah, I'm good. 2752 03:45:30,110 --> 03:45:35,190 reason, whether it was more successful or more people knew about it, but there's a great 2753 03:45:35,190 --> 03:45:42,510 turnout inside from the community, great turnout for the summer, I hope we can attract 2754 03:45:42,510 --> 03:45:48,830 more vendors in the next few years, but the attendance has been fairly good the weeks 2755 03:45:48,830 --> 03:45:49,450 I've been there. 2756 03:45:49,750 --> 03:45:53,490 And also being inside you can do it all year long, right now. 2757 03:45:53,670 --> 03:45:57,670 Yeah, I mean, that's something to look at, not in charge of that, but yeah. 2758 03:46:00,510 --> 03:46:04,370 I just want to give a huge shout out to the Randolph-High Blue Devils. 2759 03:46:04,530 --> 03:46:09,790 They won their first football game of the season 50 to 6, bigger blow than the Patriots 2760 03:46:09,790 --> 03:46:12,370 last night, so very exciting there. 2761 03:46:12,950 --> 03:46:15,290 So go and support them as best you can. 2762 03:46:15,810 --> 03:46:21,250 Also we already talked about a number of events coming up, whether it's the band coming 2763 03:46:21,250 --> 03:46:25,310 before us or coming for competition this Saturday. 2764 03:46:25,310 --> 03:46:39,330 I strongly urge everyone to check out some of the programs, the Chamber of Commerce is putting on it really has been revitalized with Jeanette's leadership, and she's doing an excellent job over there. 2765 03:46:40,050 --> 03:46:43,630 And I want to counsel against points I want to touch on somewhat somber. 2766 03:46:43,930 --> 03:46:51,610 Of course, it is the anniversary of September 11th coming up, and we often throw around the phrase, never forget ever since the day it happened. 2767 03:46:51,610 --> 03:46:57,010 And this year, I hope we never forget how everyone came together during that trying 2768 03:46:57,010 --> 03:46:57,430 time. 2769 03:46:57,770 --> 03:47:04,790 And I hope this council can remember that as well with some of our struggles to come together 2770 03:47:04,790 --> 03:47:05,450 and unify. 2771 03:47:06,330 --> 03:47:08,770 So with that, I'll listen to the adjournment. 2772 03:47:09,490 --> 03:47:09,890 All in favor? 2773 03:47:10,370 --> 03:47:10,730 All right. 2774 03:47:11,110 --> 03:47:11,710 Meeting adjourned.