1 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:09,050 Some issues were identified, so they asked the city for a treat today. See if they could be resolved. Okay, 2 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:25,970 right. Okay. 3 00:00:30,250 --> 00:00:34,930 Their motion to accept the agenda is presented. Motion is there a second? 4 00:00:34,930 --> 00:00:39,030 All in favour? Say aye. Any opposed? 5 00:00:40,410 --> 00:00:40,610 Okay. 6 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:45,430 We also have minutes from June 5th's meeting. 7 00:00:46,210 --> 00:00:48,950 Is there a motion to dispense with the reading of the minutes? 8 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:51,670 The motion is there a second? 9 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Any opposed? 10 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:00,090 Okay. 11 00:01:04,860 --> 00:01:08,400 I'm also in committee reports, do we have any reports? 12 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,280 I just want to provide you a quick update. 13 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,900 We've described this project shut-overs a timeline. 14 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,340 This is actually the name that staff has known this project as since January of project 15 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:22,880 shut-overs. 16 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:24,020 This actually works. 17 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,000 This is the new industrial development that's coming forward, Jefferson Orchard. 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,600 I wanted to provide you all the timelines so you know what's coming in front of you over the next few months. 19 00:01:36,060 --> 00:01:42,900 So there is an ordinance that we will be talking about this evening as a public hearing that code text will be in front of you. 20 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,960 And then it goes in front of City Council on 7-18 and then for a second read on 8-1. 21 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,440 For Jefferson orchards, there's going to be a rezoning and a land development plan of five updates. 22 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,060 Those require a public hearing, a public hearing will be scheduled for 8-7 here in the 23 00:02:01,060 --> 00:02:01,720 planning commission. 24 00:02:02,580 --> 00:02:04,780 So, you're aware that those will be coming forward. 25 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:10,440 We've got those applications in, we're reviewing, we're preparing comments now, and then we're 26 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:17,400 expecting a site plan which was submitted, preliminary was submitted on 6-30, we're providing 27 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,340 review comments. 28 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:34,420 We expect with this team that shortly after this is not required public hearing, but we're expecting that at the August meeting, we'd be presenting that to the planning commission as well, so we can review that and we can then proceed to court that. 29 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:45,140 What this does on this particular project and what we're capable about doing in the city is that all of this work can be done with the single public hearing, and you can see this is like two or three months. 30 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:50,320 There's nowhere else in the country that can do this type of expedited process. 31 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,440 So just so you know that that stuff will be coming forward, so our next planning permission 32 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,100 meeting in August will have a lot on the agenda. 33 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,760 We'll get that stuff out to everybody. 34 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:07,060 If you have questions, ask us, and then it'll be going on to the Council and we're expecting 35 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:11,260 that all of these approvals with all the public hearings and first readings and notices, 36 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:13,500 It will be at the beginning of September. 37 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,920 All these stuff will be through the process. 38 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:18,940 But most of your work will be done in August. 39 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,320 The things change will let you know that it's just critical for those of us. 40 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:37,050 I believe that's the planning commission we've had. 41 00:03:38,310 --> 00:03:41,650 The office floor is at the Danish company. 42 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:46,410 There are a RFP back in New England where the site is not working. 43 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:51,860 It's in the United States where we play in a couple sites of Jefferson County, 44 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Fortress, and 45 00:03:57,220 --> 00:03:58,640 the Jefferson Berkeley line. 46 00:03:59,420 --> 00:04:03,520 And originally, but it's the big building where you're seeing in. 47 00:04:04,380 --> 00:04:04,740 Office. 48 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:08,060 But I will protect the other presentation. 49 00:04:08,060 --> 00:04:15,760 We went to the investigation of Joe Stewart who quickly became a power being really working in this 50 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,520 extinguisher. 51 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,480 I got the opportunity to find out if this is a city building or a plant in February. 52 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,860 I don't even know if they were personally in February. 53 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,600 Very confidentially, I heard a company being deployed. 54 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:36,200 If I select your pay, I have three dollars within the term that this is the site. 55 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,080 They are approximately making money from what they do. 56 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,560 They are almost not going to be able to swear to you. 57 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:48,700 They are at the base of the manufacturer. 58 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,180 They turned rock into insulation. 59 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:54,360 They're getting the national news rock pool. 60 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:56,920 That states the news rock pool. 61 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:07,080 All over the world, we have a 48% market share in Europe, and we grow their North American presence. 62 00:05:08,140 --> 00:05:15,000 We are the biggest investment company in history, about $185 million for phase one. 63 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:19,340 Under the project, through the State and the Council, 64 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:25,780 taking the strutting the money in instant sewer water, 65 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,000 petrol gas, up around that water. 66 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,200 The State is in negotiation. 67 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:38,630 Actually, the Ministry of Water and Road in the sewer project on control 68 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:42,970 considered all three of those projects can be in one construction project. 69 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:49,650 There was a portrait back in 2012, it was resented by a few member, Vincent History. 70 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:57,070 A third of that, below us, was the S.D.I. Special District Festival. 71 00:05:58,230 --> 00:06:02,290 Out of the George's portrait got 200 acres to meet S.D.I. 72 00:06:02,490 --> 00:06:05,670 They were buying a box of 130-5 acres. 73 00:06:07,170 --> 00:06:13,510 And that was one of the things that the track engine, it was already known as short. 74 00:06:14,850 --> 00:06:20,570 The first phase is, I'm going to get a point, I'm going to get a point, I'm going to get a point. 75 00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:26,630 This include the construction, the construction is about a two and a half year project. 76 00:06:26,630 --> 00:06:46,830 That means the remainder of the acres of Jefferson's work should be developed to have the infrastructure under there, along with Jefferson, which is all the way into now, of any confirmation that I'm July 18th, 77 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,660 that the number ain't going to be understanding to 78 00:06:54,900 --> 00:07:01,820 be about 1%, but you can see that 1% will contract costs. 79 00:07:01,820 --> 00:07:06,420 A project comes at $1.5 million. 80 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:09,760 There are how many users this city will be in other tax. 81 00:07:11,710 --> 00:07:15,350 Any hiring that's between the county board and the city 82 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:18,150 that gives them property tax relief for a certain number of years. 83 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:22,470 And then the SDI is the first step. 84 00:07:23,890 --> 00:07:28,110 The SDI basically created an vacuum in 2012 85 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:35,130 that the user at the end went through the STI now with a real user, for example, 86 00:07:35,870 --> 00:07:38,570 of the nature and where we would go through everything. 87 00:07:38,930 --> 00:07:44,230 There were some just resentments in the vacuum without any injuries in mind. 88 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:46,750 Just some amendments that you may have made. 89 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:48,010 None of them are crazy. 90 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:53,910 Just some amendments that need to happen in order to get that, for example, 91 00:07:53,910 --> 00:07:56,670 Um, this guy is time to sign this. 92 00:07:57,050 --> 00:07:58,650 Well, they like to have the sign. 93 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:00,890 Um, of course they do. 94 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:04,470 Though it is as I kind of have been there. 95 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:05,910 You know, it's sad. 96 00:08:06,470 --> 00:08:09,910 Uh, that is based upon their government. 97 00:08:10,890 --> 00:08:12,770 What I asked about environmental concerns. 98 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:15,450 They have to have a federal and state government. 99 00:08:16,130 --> 00:08:18,490 Or they can be a billy for me here at the city. 100 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:22,270 They are buying the land and they're actually doing the site work 101 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:23,230 We're starting October. 102 00:08:24,110 --> 00:08:26,070 They don't think they're going to be prepared for it. 103 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:29,590 They're taking the risks, thinking that they're going to have 104 00:08:30,130 --> 00:08:32,290 other negative sessions with the feds and they're confident 105 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:33,990 that they're going to get the air from it. 106 00:08:34,490 --> 00:08:38,190 This is taking the duration that they want 107 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:40,530 to serve to the dirt by the October. 108 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:50,080 Thank you all for your efforts in making this happen. 109 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:53,840 It feels without saying it took a lot of work 110 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:09,140 from family, you know, hours here or done at City Hall, but just quite sure, useless nights and phone calls and all, but really you appreciate that. 111 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:15,680 That's a good thing. I think that from the next two and a half or three years, you may have some articles, pickups and changes. 112 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,600 I think overall, I think it says the city of U4 for the future in the coming. 113 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,400 Now, I can't pronounce this law of these major and non-maintenant jobs. 114 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,780 Absolutely. 115 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:33,000 That's because there was at 150 jobs or so. 116 00:09:36,380 --> 00:09:42,780 And then I guess you also have the potential for follow-on type of projects. 117 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:49,140 In five years of document phase two, they have done that in Mississippi, right now in Mississippi is there. 118 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,640 Like in North America, they have been swinging their product line. 119 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,500 The product is fire resistant fire group. 120 00:09:59,660 --> 00:10:05,120 Like BMW, Audi, all the major European companies in Europe uses this project product. 121 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,580 They put it out to, uh, the reduction documents in urine, you know, 122 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:18,420 for insulation, you've heard rock wool, Europe, rock wool, it is insulation, um, 123 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,600 the incursion market. Here are the other things that attract them to this 124 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,540 site as a possibility of having railroad spur, like the last one, railroad, um, 125 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:51,360 We've received any information on how their other builds were by the public. 126 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:58,780 Did they have any test stories, part of stories, things that a planning commission should 127 00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:00,760 look out for? 128 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:06,600 I think we didn't inform them on Friday, that could have been asked to come on Thursday. 129 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,640 The question was said, if the golf course is whatever, we didn't inform them. 130 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,480 We think I'm trying to do it. They need to put out the one page back sheet. 131 00:11:19,180 --> 00:11:19,680 The back sheet. 132 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Say, if we're doing one thing here, so we did years, they need to be engaged. 133 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:30,070 They need to know that. 134 00:11:30,070 --> 00:11:34,210 and so we absolutely agree with that for the work of the education. 135 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,800 This is said to be, look at your question, this is supposed to be very inward. 136 00:11:44,350 --> 00:11:49,050 I always say I went down there and you have a staff that is basically skiing. 137 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:54,130 It was invisible when I was there, but the young men said that if you go above the staff, 138 00:11:54,350 --> 00:11:58,170 it's about 400 degrees, flowing, forced air. 139 00:11:58,990 --> 00:12:03,570 Basically they could say they put them in other burials. 140 00:12:03,570 --> 00:12:07,310 and big furnace and it comes out like a virology. 141 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:09,170 Three ends of inflation. 142 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:18,220 Could see a gas bill. 143 00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:21,250 Could see a gas bill. 144 00:12:27,220 --> 00:12:29,320 Any other items for the report? 145 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,960 Any questions on the motion? 146 00:12:39,580 --> 00:12:40,480 Thank you very much. 147 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Dr. Schum will move on to the next item on our agenda. 148 00:12:48,460 --> 00:12:52,920 The proposed revisions to the new community special district. 149 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,420 Let me ask on this one. 150 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,760 It's actually Edward has a report that is going to present for you guys on this one, so okay. 151 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 The commissioner, we just need to open this as a public hearing. 152 00:13:11,630 --> 00:13:17,600 So this is a public hearing, and it's been noticed out in the paper. 153 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,340 I'm 154 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,300 going to open it up as a public hearing. 155 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:22,900 Okay. 156 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:31,840 I could officially open the public hearing or the proposed revisions to the new community special history. 157 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,840 So, 158 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,120 thank you, Mr. Members, we've got to text in here, and you'll see there's a lot 159 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,860 of underlocking across it now. 160 00:13:46,110 --> 00:13:52,590 Starting back in January, we started a look at SDI, that specific, so, it's also specific 161 00:13:52,590 --> 00:14:00,750 to the question of how do we use SDI in a special district in one of these communities, bringing 162 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:03,270 in the last time of the planning commission meeting, 163 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:06,330 we were shown that I kind of laid out pieces. 164 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:10,690 Special districts within SmartCode New Community 165 00:14:10,690 --> 00:14:14,410 are identified one in the community types. 166 00:14:15,070 --> 00:14:17,770 So that's how community is formed at a community scale, 167 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:20,610 or at a regional scale, and then at a community. 168 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:24,870 So when we look at new community types, 169 00:14:25,050 --> 00:14:26,310 one of the, there's a couple of things 170 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:29,130 that are within this report that we just want to outline 171 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:34,880 that we were targeting and trying to achieve and prove within our code. 172 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,380 So the first thing you'll see within the whole code, we actually have revised it, 173 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:43,780 so if anything related to special district is identified as special district. 174 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:52,080 The code has some language text about special district SB, S-D-D-S-D-I, but under the code, 175 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:53,720 we just cleaned up those pieces. 176 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,820 We also wanted to de-referring between a special district 177 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Within a community type, at outside. To the code does allow for you to have up to 20% of a neighborhood 178 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,420 dedicated to a special district, like an industrial district. So, you could imagine 179 00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:18,120 belt line, defundation, or formative, dancing. That could have been a special district, 180 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:23,040 industrial, industrial uses could have gone through. You also have places that are in the 181 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:26,740 And we were looking at items 182 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:30,320 out on $60,000. 183 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,880 At the recycling and recycling, you also have the diverse 184 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,600 forage products. 185 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:38,860 They could be outside of the community industry. 186 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Under the code, what we identified is that there were maximum 187 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,860 areas that those who were permitted, but they had not identified 188 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:46,940 intervals. 189 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:51,380 One of the concerns we had is that if somebody came in town, 190 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:54,620 and they had $20,000 for a lot of it, better for a lot. 191 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,880 And they wanted to get special district because they wanted to do an industrial use. 192 00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:05,540 You could do that, you could apply for that, but it didn't make sense because the uses wouldn't be conducive to that. 193 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,480 And that's not what this district was actually intended. 194 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:17,200 So we identified some both for a business, special district business, which could be warehousing, logistics, an office park, 195 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,300 And a specialist is your industrial, which is a heavy industrial and manufacturing. 196 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:26,700 It says, we identified that there would be a minimum acreage within a community type 197 00:16:27,610 --> 00:16:30,020 and a minimum acreage outside a community type. 198 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:36,900 So within a community type, you could have up to two acre, you'd have to have a minimum 199 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:41,240 of two acres within a community type and a maximum of 20% out of it. 200 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:48,240 So this would allow for us to utilize special district, and when you look at two acres of 201 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,060 a business park that ends up being something like two city blocks. 202 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,260 It's a little bit larger than normal blocks, so if there's especially a warehouse in 203 00:16:56,260 --> 00:16:58,700 peace that needs to go in town, it could happen. 204 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:06,000 And also looking at the industrial, a minimum of four acres within a community type. 205 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,360 So universal forest products could be a standalone community type because it's greater than 15 acres outside 206 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Or it was combined with 207 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Let's say Fairfax crossing for planning purposes. It also would be at the 20% so there's a choice of things to be inside 208 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,000 So we look at those. That's what we wanted to day free a chain between that 209 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,700 We also wanted to make sure that 210 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:35,220 on the periphery of our communities that somebody just wouldn't spot zone and say, 211 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,480 I have a half an acre outside, I don't want to deal with community, I'm just going to be a special district. 212 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:44,180 I really wanted to go and just add some of those protections because we're in the co-work 213 00:17:44,180 --> 00:17:45,760 of trying to establish communities. 214 00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:51,200 We also added some clarity under special district business. 215 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,660 So these are business parts, warehousing parts. 216 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Very similar to what you see at the Jefferson County industrial apartment. 217 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:02,680 We wanted to make sure that that was mapped, that it shall be mapped adjacent to a village 218 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,200 or council. 219 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,700 That's to meet some of the other policies. 220 00:18:06,060 --> 00:18:09,660 So again, you just wouldn't have an office park in the rural know where to be an office 221 00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:12,440 park adjacent to things that would have hadable uses. 222 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:17,920 But office park would be adjacent to someplace that there would be a potential for hotel, a potential 223 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,100 for restaurant, a potential for housing adjacent to it. 224 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:26,200 For special district industrial, it could be, it's only identified here that it could 225 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,700 would be now, because it's a choice for investment. 226 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,860 So that's why we wanted to iterate for A change between the 227 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:38,100 community types inside and outside, and we also wanted to 228 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,420 define the relationship between community types. 229 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,920 So that is everything that's under special district allocation. 230 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:50,440 Under the rezoning for Jefferson orchards, they will be submitting 231 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,580 or they have submitting, and you will be reviewing 232 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:56,660 a special district industrial outside of community life. 233 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,460 So it's greater than 15 acres and it's less than 200 acres. 234 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,920 And it's going to be a standalone district. 235 00:19:04,260 --> 00:19:07,620 We'll show you as we go to the code with that being identified. 236 00:19:08,980 --> 00:19:11,580 Within our sheet looked at the chapter, Article 6, 237 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:13,920 that's specifically dealt with all the standards. 238 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:17,740 All the zoning standards you would be familiar with with a zoning district. 239 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:25,100 Article 6 shadows Article 5, which are all your artisans, but there was some misorganization 240 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:31,140 that we wanted to be sure that we calibrated their standards based off of the location. 241 00:19:31,540 --> 00:19:37,200 So you're going to see within this that one we organized the requirements but we also consolidated 242 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:43,500 it for general to all special districts and then special districts that are a business 243 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:48,080 part, a special district for industrial, inside a community, and outside a community. 244 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:56,140 So as we go through those, we also wanted to make sure that the standards, as we went 245 00:19:56,140 --> 00:20:01,580 through, we found lots of tables and lots of notes and other sections, we've inserted those 246 00:20:01,580 --> 00:20:02,480 references here. 247 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,680 So there's no surprises when you read it. 248 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:14,560 As we go to the package on page 9, we're going to see on building configuration general 249 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:20,580 special districts. What we have done is we've essentially taken the requirements that 250 00:20:20,580 --> 00:20:25,300 were applicable to all special districts and we reorganize this and we're 251 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:29,360 putting them into the places that are appropriate. So as we go through we 252 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:33,680 identified where and how we determine building heights set back to 253 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:40,140 expression lines so their allocators require a table 2223. We've added a new 254 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:45,040 table 23 A and 23 B and we'll show you how that is out. 255 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:50,360 We've referenced where private frontages are because it's referenced in the private 256 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:53,720 frontage section but it wasn't referenced in Article 6. 257 00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:57,840 We've now modified the parking standards. 258 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:03,220 On height limits we wanted to make sure that under our general code it says it's taxed 259 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:08,080 or not applicable to height limits and we just wanted to make sure that that was here because 260 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,700 these, this is a term that would be utilized with these types of uses. There are a lot of 261 00:21:13,700 --> 00:21:20,740 descriptive components within the code that make a lot of sense for an urban infill, business 262 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:29,360 park or urban infill industrial district, but not 430 or 150 acre industrial. So we've admitted 263 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:35,580 those from the general requirements for all special districts. We then broke down the special 264 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:41,820 Special districts, based off the timeline here in our experience at this point, we've identified 265 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:49,980 special district business, so these are S-B-E, and we've pulled the components that were 266 00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:54,900 above to things that we would see that would make sense in a business part or a warehouse 267 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:59,920 or a climate industrial part that would be within a special district. 268 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,440 So there would be a condition of quarter logs, and this is language that's consistent with 269 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:11,760 code. There is the ability for commercial uses and ground floor uses and how heights need 270 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,340 to be defined within an office part. That's identifying again. This is code that currently 271 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:24,160 exists which is relocated it. We've relocated the language because lodging is permitted 272 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:30,800 in this use, not permitted in all special districts. Parade the language, the architectural 273 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:37,100 language, billy languages, the loading areas, and encroachment language, that all was in 274 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,900 the general specific, we've carried it now specific to the special district business. 275 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:50,040 So, galleries or caves or pictures of all those components, we could see that in office 276 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,140 file, we could see that in urban condition. 277 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,000 So those are there. 278 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,780 We have reserved C. We fully expect at some point that there is possibility that, especially 279 00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:07,420 business could come in, we could be dealing with users, that we need to differentiate between 280 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:14,000 a special business district out in the periphery of the city versus in the city, which is based 281 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,700 on the timing, having gospel in all this pieces. So we have a placeholder, that's what that 282 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:18,460 reserve is for. 283 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:27,500 We've now split special district industrial, so it's specific to insider community 284 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:33,140 unit type and outside the community unit. So if it's in the center community unit type, 285 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:41,500 this could be, for example, the cold storage and belt line. It could be other industrial 286 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:48,680 use things that would fit within a community unit type. And again, on this one, corn 287 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,380 and lots, some architectural components could occur here where loading areas are as possible 288 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:59,480 in an urban environment built to the street that there'd be galleries in our caves. 289 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,620 So we've just inserted almost the same language, but calibrated it for industrial uses. 290 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,400 And that's for within-sided community. 291 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:17,920 Under E, at the bottom of page 11, it's a special district outside of community type. 292 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,660 So these are large footprint users, the outside of community type. 293 00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:30,440 What we see on these types of users, these are the factories, these are the large distribution 294 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:30,900 centers. 295 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,360 You can drive around the country here to search Google or you can see that generally there's 296 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:39,580 a large production, warehousing, and just in the facility in the middle of the site. 297 00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:46,780 It's surrounded by truck storage, factory worker parking, there may be some outparsal stuff 298 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:47,240 to it. 299 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:52,660 It's usually surrounded by a lot of green, and it has security, things that can gain some 300 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:53,900 limited access point. 301 00:24:53,900 --> 00:25:00,660 So that's the concept of something that's a standalone, factory, industrial user, regional 302 00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,760 shipping warehousing. 303 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:07,240 Some of the things you may see on the I-80 Accord or what we're starting to see within 304 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,160 the city of Jefferson. 305 00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:15,870 We've identified in there because private frontages are silent, we've identified the private 306 00:25:15,870 --> 00:25:19,330 frontage that's mostly applicable to this is a common law. 307 00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:25,290 That means a grass area with landscape from simple within our code so we just 308 00:25:26,110 --> 00:25:27,590 buy out stated here. 309 00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,750 We've identified that loading and service entries should be limited 310 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:35,170 to access from a total driveways or a total private service. 311 00:25:35,850 --> 00:25:38,830 So to city, we request this come up an alleyway, 312 00:25:39,010 --> 00:25:41,790 in a large, large facilities, they're secure, 313 00:25:42,570 --> 00:25:45,650 they're going to up one or two points of entry to all their service stuff. 314 00:25:45,690 --> 00:25:48,250 It's not going to come off the streets, it comes off their control drive. 315 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:55,390 under height. We actually are recommended to change here, but under height, the maximum 316 00:25:55,390 --> 00:26:00,830 height, which was permitted under the SDI currently is 90 feet. First you recommend 317 00:26:00,830 --> 00:26:06,830 you hear that, and there will be a change in this language, that the maximum height shall 318 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:13,990 be 90 feet, and you'll see if there's an exhibit there. So that's the maximum allowable 319 00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:20,330 and that would show, that's going to show up in Table 23P. 320 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:23,990 So just a text change here that will be making. 321 00:26:26,130 --> 00:26:31,130 Under these factories, there are heights that they need to exceed. 322 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,950 Or, finally, on this particular one, there will be a height. 323 00:26:34,450 --> 00:26:37,210 It's seen time before, and it's beyond the status. 324 00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:42,770 Things that are within their system that basically we don't know exactly 325 00:26:42,770 --> 00:26:44,610 what those things are, but we need to baseline. 326 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:48,930 So we've included in here the ability to seek 327 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:50,990 a deviation to administrative waiver. 328 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:55,410 So that would allow for you to receive maximum. 329 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:58,530 What that means is that I read administrative waiver, 330 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:04,430 staff would go through with the tall native 331 00:27:04,430 --> 00:27:05,570 desired review committee. 332 00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:08,770 And there's a checklist of items that would go through 333 00:27:08,770 --> 00:27:09,870 to analyze that. 334 00:27:10,030 --> 00:27:12,030 Does it have impacts on the surrounding community 335 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:14,410 as a consistent with the comprehensive plan, 336 00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:17,090 so we would go through that checklist 337 00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:19,210 and get through administrative way. 338 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:21,410 So this allows the flexibility to get. 339 00:27:21,870 --> 00:27:24,970 If a building has, it's in the center of the site, 340 00:27:25,450 --> 00:27:27,030 if it's far away from stuff, 341 00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:28,770 and they need to exceed 90 feet, 342 00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:30,810 we have the ability to buy that by way from. 343 00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:34,130 That, the SNF recommendation there is to 344 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,690 control it, but also provide the ability for flexibility. 345 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:45,850 It appears that the majority of the structure or this particular for rock soil is going to be 60 feet. 346 00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:51,890 Surrounding the stack area in the manufacturing, it may be as high as 115 feet, 347 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,470 and the stack determination will be based off of the federal air quality. 348 00:27:56,570 --> 00:27:58,850 But it's a small portion of the building in the game. 349 00:27:59,810 --> 00:28:01,430 What does that mean, so high any hour? 350 00:28:02,050 --> 00:28:02,830 The air quality. 351 00:28:04,510 --> 00:28:12,010 The federal requirements that has to be, what they've explained to us, it has to be up so high that they evacuate whatever needs to get out of it. 352 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:15,710 It's just like a nuclear power plant. 353 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,440 Really so little, what a time. 354 00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:30,500 So then around, again, we haven't, we've only seen bits of pieces of this because they've not finalized the architecture, 355 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:39,340 but what we understand is that around the tower element, there's this multi-story with mezzanines and workstations and computers and things. 356 00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:44,220 that are around that is that the diagram they gave us because they're dealing, they're 357 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:49,140 translating, they're American engineers, they're translating the Danish numbers from 358 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:49,500 metric. 359 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,860 They gave us a tentative dimension of 14 point, 360 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:58,660 114 point A2, which is a really odd dimension 361 00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:05,240 and I don't know, so that's why we feel there's a ability to add that flexibility in there. 362 00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:09,120 At some point you're the actual, they're going to turn into that and it'll be reinforced 363 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,640 with that. 364 00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:16,340 But again, on this site, on 135 acres and the square footage of this, there are going 365 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:18,740 to be hundreds of feet away from our property line. 366 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:24,060 And not going to be overseen the presidential community. 367 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:26,400 But can I ask you a question? 368 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:29,560 So we're 369 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:40,020 looking at making these code changes for the special district today. 370 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:46,620 So that these industrial buildings and 371 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,560 so that they can confluent to a code, 372 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,380 Now, will they still have to have public hearings? 373 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:13,820 But once they coup, are we establishing the code so that it's not necessary for them to have a public hearing? Under 19a. This is our most current land development code. This is smart. 374 00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:29,120 Special district, industrial, special district business of the standalone district, that's the name of the loan zone. As to be identified, it's hiring on your zone. 375 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:36,160 So what the process will be for this type of development, is that a developer will come in 376 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,580 and will provide a zoning application and a land development plan in place. 377 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,420 Both of the applications can be submitted simultaneously as that we're going to see that 378 00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:52,180 here on this, which efforts in our dreams, and it can be approved as a single public here. 379 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,460 That's the public input on that couple. 380 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Once the boundaries of the property are established, then these rules of the rules that they have to follow, that isn't a streamlined approach for approval. 381 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,520 I guess the reason I was asking one to get kind of the big picture first. 382 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:19,740 So if there is the provision for administrative favor after that 383 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,020 doesn't make this area on the map, 384 00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:34,860 or special industrial district, but there is an administrators' play, or it goes outside 385 00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:40,380 of what the code is for implementing to this special district. 386 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,080 It seems like there wouldn't be any type of public input. 387 00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:51,360 So, that would be a deviation. 388 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Let me go through what the general standards are. 389 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,180 So no administrative waiver shall be approved unless the city manager does finish off 390 00:31:59,180 --> 00:31:59,700 fine. 391 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,360 The administrative waiver is consistent with Section 1.2 in terms of this chapter, which means 392 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,740 it's the end of the zoning code, building those requirements. 393 00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:13,920 But the administrative waiver is consistent with the comprehensive plan, so you're not 394 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:21,080 not going to get a 2,000 foot tower, that the administrative waiver will not barely materially 395 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,280 endanger the public health, take to your constituent public services, if located or proposed 396 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,880 in developing according to the plans, information submitted and approved, the administrative waiver 397 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,680 will not substantially injure the value of a joint property, or that the use is a public 398 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,620 facility, the location, character of the use, if developed according to the plans and 399 00:32:44,620 --> 00:32:51,420 information provided will be in harmony with accident land uses, assisted with the purposes 400 00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:52,160 of the district. 401 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,020 Administrative labor will advance the presence of the intended form of development. 402 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,260 Administrative labor will advance pedestrian friendly activity. 403 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,720 Administrative labor will provide for the enhancement coordination. 404 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560 or demarcation between public and private. 405 00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:15,540 So there's a significant checklist to go to 406 00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:17,800 and make sure that they're not bypassing 407 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,060 and that they're consistent with the comprehensive plan. 408 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,460 You'll see within here, within this code, 409 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:28,880 I think there are two or three locations 410 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:32,800 for which specifically breakfast the ability to utilize 411 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,300 So height is one. 412 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:44,380 We could revise the height language so that it's a maximum height and not provide the deviation. 413 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440 There is a process that we could go through under our code. 414 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:51,360 We could just set the height. 415 00:33:53,930 --> 00:34:03,190 We could go and identify the height and provide ability to the administrative waiver process that we're identifying here. 416 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:12,110 because of some control. We could go to the next level and identify additional types of that 417 00:34:12,110 --> 00:34:22,510 by special exemption, which would have to go to the DA public hearing process. There could be 418 00:34:22,510 --> 00:34:30,590 pieces that would bring it back to the clinic. On these, we're trying to streamline this so that one 419 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:35,710 One of the things that ranting can provide other communities can identify a clear vision, 420 00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:40,490 so it can't be more than 200 acres, it has to be, you'll see there's some setbacks. 421 00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:48,110 There's other requirements to it that, with that, you set a plain field in a way that, when 422 00:34:48,110 --> 00:34:58,410 they come in, immediately, if this particular user only needed 90 acres, about 105, and it was 423 00:34:58,410 --> 00:35:05,130 on the site where that special district is clearly laid out, then they ask you to 424 00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:09,370 go straight to site, that they wouldn't ask you to go to the other area. 425 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:15,630 But yeah, I mean, staff, we're completely open to where the comfort level is of this, 426 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:23,290 I guess, well, maybe there isn't, I think from hearing you explain it, it seems like 427 00:35:23,290 --> 00:35:24,550 But there isn't giving 428 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,720 a height, which are a height limitation, and it definitely makes 429 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:35,160 sense. 430 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:43,640 Nothing in having provision for administrative waivers for something like a stack, or they 431 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:49,760 have a building right at the height, but now they have to put in tenons or something that's 432 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:59,020 not earning into a underfoot, or building, or this is a stack, or an antenna, or something. 433 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,720 So on height. 434 00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:13,530 For the only SDR, we have another person who can make 435 00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:15,630 connections and how is he done. 436 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:16,430 Okay. 437 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:19,930 Really it's almost at that particular site. 438 00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:23,750 It was a bit cook for them, there's almost a two-year old 439 00:36:24,590 --> 00:36:29,110 venture zoning district because it's the only site in full saighty fed zone. 440 00:36:29,490 --> 00:36:30,850 So the rest of the food, 441 00:36:30,850 --> 00:36:34,270 What two hundred somebody acres are left because I'm going to do that. 442 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:42,350 I'm your current regulations for the next subdivision. 443 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:47,170 You have 130 acres that be identified from SDI. 444 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:51,470 There's a potential for up to another 70 within the next subdivision. 445 00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:54,010 It could be standalone SDI. 446 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:57,030 That may be the other half of the property. 447 00:36:57,030 --> 00:37:00,890 the other two hundred eight codes, but have to be the other mix of uses. 448 00:37:01,090 --> 00:37:04,610 Now there's the ability to undo a hundred percent STI within that. 449 00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:11,050 But under your current regulations, you're limited to a maximum of two hundred eight. 450 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:11,690 And 451 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:17,100 once they come in and talk about digital property, 452 00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:21,600 the enhancement of the purpose is streamlined and not confused matters. 453 00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:25,480 If these guys started to work out a lot to do that, 454 00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:32,820 What does it become when you grow? 455 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:37,460 Can anything move besides this property to be a school beside it? 456 00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:40,400 The property under it that can do anything to be a prescription. 457 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:47,760 For a thousand foot restriction or no hospitals, no schools, 458 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,100 absolutely never essential to any of the property. 459 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:59,980 But, Russell was asked, basically, if you don't have an option to use, and just what happens 460 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:05,900 is residents think the phenomenon of resident groups, next to the airport, can start complaining 461 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:09,000 about the irritating, complaining over the top of them. 462 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:17,900 And they just, in the past, figured out that just not great residents are great neighbors 463 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:24,200 because if something happens where they have a lab room or something that they look extraordinary, 464 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,500 just call trying from Americans for a smell like it's burning down to the town. 465 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,960 Everybody calls. They just call it as a resident. 466 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120 It's just easier for them not to get residents. 467 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,800 And so the property energy goes to the private heat restriction within that. 468 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:42,840 No residential. 469 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,540 to live in certain schools and hospitals in a thousand foot extension for a couple of 470 00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:49,800 uses. 471 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:52,780 But that 472 00:38:55,660 --> 00:38:57,920 was really good for the end of the year, 473 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,490 and like I said, I'm going to show you 474 00:39:01,490 --> 00:39:03,110 what extra talent is for you. 475 00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:11,190 And once they know the joy of the use of subdivisions and the people complaining about the 476 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:11,450 spill. 477 00:39:12,090 --> 00:39:19,110 But it really is the airport, I don't know, I mean, 5,000 to the tallest landings ever in your 478 00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,110 we call in the President here for sending over 479 00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:23,450 a couple of real things that we will talk about in you. 480 00:39:23,890 --> 00:39:25,750 Same thing is going to happen with this company. 481 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:30,190 And we know what the discussion was about that. 482 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:33,470 I mean, you could go to Charleston at one time, 483 00:39:34,210 --> 00:39:37,810 the company is just going to get any industrial restriction 484 00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:39,010 all over the property. 485 00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,850 The property owner, in the city, frankly, said 486 00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:44,210 we do not think that's good. 487 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:45,130 I don't know whatsoever. 488 00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:47,170 And the property owner said, I'm not giving that. 489 00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:51,110 I would agree to certain uses that, you know, schools, hospitals, 490 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:54,510 residents that I'm not ready to know. 491 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:58,690 Our point was, what had the items come to the hospital? 492 00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:00,330 On her out here. 493 00:40:01,210 --> 00:40:03,350 That would have been restricted in her daily industrial. 494 00:40:03,550 --> 00:40:05,470 It's no longer... 495 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:09,890 No, we also see 150 workers in this factory could be running 24-7. 496 00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:11,910 Are they believed by gaps? 497 00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:14,350 Think of things on the way home from work? 498 00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:17,430 Did the things that are in Jason's stuff? 499 00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:20,410 We're going to have three years of construction work going out there. 500 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:23,150 This is a hotel that doesn't meet the way you go. 501 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:24,990 I mean, there's some around there. 502 00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:27,310 There's thousands of construction workers for the next three years. 503 00:40:27,490 --> 00:40:30,190 And then, you know, the suppliers and stuff, 504 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:32,210 and trucks coming in every day. 505 00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:35,470 So, you know, there's a whole discussion to be brought together 506 00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:37,930 and to help you about, what does this become? 507 00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:38,570 To throw it out? 508 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:41,810 To be honest, we met a lot of internal discussion here. 509 00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:46,130 What does the other two hundred and seventy-eight years ago grow up? 510 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:48,950 The problem is, looking at my property to the north, 511 00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:51,030 which was made in a site plan, 512 00:40:51,610 --> 00:40:54,810 we assume that all of our, the road up to freight, 513 00:40:55,210 --> 00:40:57,030 that road will eventually extend to freight. 514 00:40:57,810 --> 00:40:59,870 So what does all of the property become? 515 00:41:00,950 --> 00:41:03,790 But we've asked the basically kind of good questions. 516 00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:04,710 Does it give these? 517 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:08,090 We cannot, we've told them, we cannot mean for schedule. 518 00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:11,610 We get all down on what does the rest of the property become? 519 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:24,220 Right now it becomes T4 in T5, which allows a much different office commercial like 520 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:24,880 those degrees. 521 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,100 As you mentioned the airport phenomena, is there anything like do they obviously wouldn't 522 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:42,240 be planning the airplane there, but are there any other concerns and I guess what I'm 523 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:56,680 I don't think it is, would they have requirements for evacuation sirens, things that could be considered public news purposes that people would be concerned about. 524 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:04,080 Well, it's interesting under the statement of torts, basically, the only one thing that public use it to is called racism. 525 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,920 The other reason why they wanted some commercial peace over commercial peace over commercial peace. 526 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,680 So what we're doing is, this is the purpose of asking me questions about it. 527 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,000 And you think you should probably not have blended areas like mine, but one thing we were adamant about, 528 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,020 is the second function is in and out for emergency work. 529 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,000 It's really not a good shade, and it gives up before any, where the old sheet was, and 530 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000 it's filled. 531 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:45,300 We have the old vision that we want that open for emergency access for first responders 532 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:55,000 So, the only access is on the bridge that opens over a double-thread pair of road and a double-thread 533 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,660 light highway. 534 00:42:56,020 --> 00:43:00,020 And we need to work properly in there, who will not wish you any more broken permits, 535 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,460 until the city of 278th, or the city of New York, has a second way to be interested. 536 00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:11,220 And we give you the chance to meet up with a great, over-thread, root-thread, root-thread, 537 00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:14,580 but I think it was one of the white dog coffee dog. 538 00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:18,620 But I just, it's going to be an emergency 539 00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:19,960 with swungers right in the air. 540 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,320 And frankly, to be able to production nightmare, 541 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,000 if something happens on that bridge, 542 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:30,100 I'm just going to lay it in now, but the point. 543 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,400 But they, we can very clear about that. 544 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:35,820 The main important cycling is coming out, 545 00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:38,020 and we'll show that the grants in the chain 546 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:41,780 is their emergency in that. 547 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,900 They're going to pay for this part of their project. 548 00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:47,760 Well, part of it is not at the bottom of it, 549 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,860 they're going to make it so it's reversible, 550 00:43:50,340 --> 00:43:51,880 but, you know, unfortunately, 551 00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:55,100 not all the landing control all right there. 552 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,220 We don't have a video. 553 00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:59,420 We think it's going to be part of the landing, 554 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,820 we're not part of it by the state, 555 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,640 but we kind of wish discussions. 556 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:13,780 It's just the way the apple truck is to go off the phone. 557 00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:23,840 During the clean purposes in 2012, it was like, well, maybe that becomes the time period of secondary access. 558 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:37,260 but analyzing it really makes sense now that the road is going in for the second year to go up and bring your overview or name. 559 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,080 But in a way that's the thing you just have to do it, they have to do it and we should do it for next. 560 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,600 This is 561 00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:57,650 the site plan that I'm going to try to plan. 562 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:21,260 So, the things that are being worked out on it, and the engineers come here and decided to let me literally send us new engineering. Somebody gets tweaked a little bit, almost every day, so. But it essentially gives you the concept that on the land of up with plan of plan, which is the, which probability now. 563 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:45,500 If you look at the green one, 564 00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:52,110 there's enormous amount of water that goes into the facility 565 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:57,790 that's used for cooling that goes up the stack. They don't have as much sewer going out as water going in. 566 00:45:59,470 --> 00:46:06,310 On the left side of the page, all the little broken up buildings, that area is where all their minerals and storage are. 567 00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:12,530 All of the water, anything water that hits that as a potential of having the mineral site remains. 568 00:46:13,230 --> 00:46:21,110 And there's a large stormwater pond that goes into a settlement of recycled materials and then push some of the water back. 569 00:46:21,110 --> 00:46:21,810 There 570 00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:32,910 will be a lot of eating trumps today, but in and out of the plant, bringing them all to the place where it doesn't take out the finished product. 571 00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:37,610 If you look at this, it looks like it's great to be able to clean your process. 572 00:46:38,250 --> 00:46:41,270 It starts from the very lab that's really stored in minerals. 573 00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:43,590 It was akin to the plant. 574 00:46:44,170 --> 00:46:50,850 It was crucial to process and then the big buildings to the right that sort of finished warehouse and product. 575 00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:55,310 That's what the finished warehouse is for all the pensions for all those cities, 576 00:46:57,540 --> 00:47:02,500 very many years of operation in the jobs that were down there. 577 00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:10,370 In manufacturing plants, the bulk of gas that we have computers, I mean that was the type of manufacturing. 578 00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:16,090 engineering is, so some of the changes on here, 579 00:47:16,270 --> 00:47:18,910 and it has to be a routine to be very current in gearing, 580 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:21,610 be the project engineer on this to the view, 581 00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:24,050 for example, stuff that keeps changing 582 00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:25,670 are strong iron. 583 00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:29,470 Some of our requirements are to figure that 584 00:47:29,470 --> 00:47:31,470 there are a specific electricity barrier, 585 00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:35,770 so for example our engineers said we need to have a 586 00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:39,590 a bioswale as was in one of the parking lots in the middle of Beijing. 587 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:50,120 They have the power of one bioswale, the all the heat of water. 588 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,680 So this is the type of tweets and we will keep on getting those tweets up until 589 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,140 at the official site plan. 590 00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:58,260 It's a middle. 591 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,060 They have been speaking in an area by plants under the project shell, 592 00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:36,390 There's a 20-some page site plan package for providing comments too and then there's a 593 00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:42,070 The components will be required under this, but we wanted to review it and get our engineers 594 00:48:42,070 --> 00:48:45,790 thinking about it as early as possible because of their streamline. 595 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,740 If you look at the purple-ish-blueish plan, that's the land development plan of black, 596 00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:57,480 and it's just one of the diagrams that you'll see, we'll get this out to you. 597 00:48:57,740 --> 00:48:59,100 There's some tweaks that have to happen. 598 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,200 The bridge, as you come across, route nine in the rail tracks, is at the bottom, that's 599 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:05,660 that white. 600 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:13,680 finger that comes up, that's the existing DOH right-of-way, to the left of that, where 601 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:21,420 they will app a orchard, shop is, that's the acreage area that would be stand-alone 602 00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:31,300 STI. And you can see on the tables, that's counting about 185 acres of STI and then 603 00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:40,000 And the 50 acres is distributed kind of, of the T1 is kind of distributed to the site. 604 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,240 There's a central spine road that's going to come in that comes off of that ramp off of Route 9. 605 00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:50,020 That has the potential to go all the way up to everything. 606 00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:59,200 So this is all flat land and it will have facilities to the right or the east of that access road. 607 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:08,740 You'll see that we have the transit stop, it will show up on the site plan, that's at the bottom right, and then you can see what they've done. 608 00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:20,840 They've utilized the village meeting intensity, which allows them to maximize T4 and T5 uses, which are the uses that get some out of a lot of the residential forms. 609 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,940 They can be jobs, offices, all those pieces. 610 00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:30,560 And again, this is conceptual, but they try to utilize as much of the existing information 611 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:36,320 from before the stream liners process, but you can just see what could be laid out there. 612 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:43,640 I fully expect this to change, is we're finding more information on about the utilities, some 613 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,620 of the green areas are actually ideal utility locations and we'll have service utilities first. 614 00:50:51,380 --> 00:50:57,000 So the other side will be redeveloped as you go up that spine road where that curved 615 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,940 component is. 616 00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:01,400 There's another 40 some acres that they're in the process they're trying to acquire. 617 00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:05,500 And again, it's not like the city, but something that eventually will get planned. 618 00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:11,720 And you'll see on the zoning, there'll be additional connections that weren't possible before. 619 00:51:12,940 --> 00:51:17,100 Because for the next phase, even if they wanted to do a hotel, they had to figure out how 620 00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:22,940 to get a second exit. So it's either going to go across to the black coffee shop or it's 621 00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:26,680 going to go north. So there are different ways to do that. 622 00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:53,920 a deer age, about essentially two-twelfth of a year. 623 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,240 Love for traveling, both for traveling, 25 foot of median, bill, 624 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,340 the ability of love turns into the same as a mincee here off by that. 625 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,340 They actually offer us the ability to administer it. 626 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,180 But while this project, by this company is looking at their property, 627 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,100 loving, we're trying to look at the entire property. 628 00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:23,140 If you're going to spend money, frankly, this becomes a really important fine student. 629 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,500 I never would have thought you don't want an industrial access right away. 630 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,220 The other thing that we're pushing, which the company begins to ask us if we consider 631 00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:34,940 another size they don't want another job. 632 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,200 They run that bike path, it's right next to this. 633 00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:44,280 And we would like to have the bike path extended on the street 634 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,420 and they will eventually connect with 480. 635 00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:48,280 They'll understand for a long time 636 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,060 they've been trying to push for it. 637 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:51,700 If I had them for 80, 638 00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:54,460 this would start that process. 639 00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:56,780 The measure actually is not 640 00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:58,860 at least there's going to be a light path. 641 00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:02,420 It's just what's on the street is the light path. 642 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,930 They were pitched to the left side 643 00:53:06,930 --> 00:53:07,930 because we just know 644 00:53:07,930 --> 00:53:09,490 there's only going to be two driveways 645 00:53:09,490 --> 00:53:10,830 on the left side of the road. 646 00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:12,770 On the right side there's more conflicts. 647 00:53:13,550 --> 00:53:18,030 They are concerned about the right path on the inside because they don't want their 648 00:53:19,410 --> 00:53:23,010 drug and they can left their earns and go buy a pack. 649 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:26,230 Frankly, it's only their right path. 650 00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:29,570 I'm not sure if I can buy a pack. 651 00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:35,510 So that's part of the tent that we're meeting with the state who is thinking about this project 652 00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:39,690 is required to have a sidewall for any of the issues you have in the city. 653 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:48,890 It's under your land without the regulations. 654 00:53:48,910 --> 00:53:56,510 This road would be two travel lanes, determining the way to figure out how to carry out a truck 655 00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:56,870 for it. 656 00:53:57,330 --> 00:53:57,730 Yes. 657 00:53:58,350 --> 00:53:59,470 But it has to be one. 658 00:54:00,290 --> 00:54:00,810 The one? 659 00:54:01,210 --> 00:54:02,210 What it has to be one. 660 00:54:03,130 --> 00:54:05,010 I'm going to have to try to carry those on and down that way. 661 00:54:05,530 --> 00:54:21,230 Yeah, so the, under your, under your zoning requirements, you'd have, you have two travel lanes, and it's either going to be an 11 or 12 foot travel lane, or an adequate for the trucks, and it just depends on the designs being how fast you want the trucks to come. 662 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:33,150 All your city, comprehensive planning ordinances would push us to the narrow one, but I can talk about in the design, there's some ways we can do to accomplish what we want. 663 00:54:34,290 --> 00:54:42,910 In our co-art, as in the system of the state, when you build the first place, this is what we've asked for, it's a wire median. 664 00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:46,010 And the pedestrian access is on the side. 665 00:54:46,330 --> 00:54:51,310 So we're not asking for a huge delay in one of the state was going to build. 666 00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:57,970 The basic question, however, that in a company that there be a couple of left turn lanes into the driveway, 667 00:55:03,330 --> 00:55:10,050 So the state would build a three-lane roadway, and it'd be really wide lanes, and it'd just be this big strip of asphalt. 668 00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:16,960 Not to somewhere to pick out a new, so to do in five lanes, it'd be three-lane. 669 00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:21,200 So just drop two lanes off of it, and then they'd go find ponds wherever they could put ponds. 670 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,420 But what we're saying is that under the city ordinances, there are actually some good 671 00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:27,240 things that help them. 672 00:55:27,740 --> 00:55:31,640 One, the two families are required, everybody agrees with you to be too traveling. 673 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:38,240 Or actually suggesting to invert the travel lanes into a center median, that all the storm 674 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,780 water could be kept within the right of way. 675 00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:46,100 And we've got examples of really high-tech things, but we also have highway examples that are 676 00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:47,940 low-tech, accomplishes the same component. 677 00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:53,760 That's under me and gives you the opportunity to insert turn lanes in the future, build a 678 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,300 measure item. 679 00:55:54,860 --> 00:55:59,500 It also gives you the opportunity because you've got some more breath on the road on the 680 00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:00,000 truck to move. 681 00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,740 It gets, it gets me to the truck requirement, but also gets the less. 682 00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:10,280 The city requirement also is that they'd be curving in the planter strip to reach you. 683 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:16,620 So, we're working through with that, is the, that's a requirement for the adjacent development 684 00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:21,740 to build, you'd like to at least get them locked in on the rocksle site if we get them on the 685 00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:27,200 other side of the road, we've been growing. And then the city ordinance would be sidewalks on both 686 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:32,840 sides of the street. Three quarters of a mile the sidewalk to two plant entrances doesn't make a lot of 687 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:38,200 sense. So we opted for maybe a less expensive material which would be asphalt and would do the bike. 688 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,980 So we're working with the engineers is to which side. So there will be a new three section 689 00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:49,240 that we will present to the planning commission as part of the land development plan and part of the site plan. 690 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:57,300 We'll review it. The code allows us to do new street sections, but it's going to have a combination of trucks, 691 00:56:58,260 --> 00:57:05,280 a combination for future growth, a combination for stormwater, and a combination for bicycle strip pedestrian. 692 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,960 I'm sure it's on the right system design. 693 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,580 Yeah. I'm sure a complex like this on the music, so they're going to put it in the 694 00:57:16,580 --> 00:57:18,620 other things that they can't put out. 695 00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:21,540 Yeah, we have sent them to that information. 696 00:57:22,380 --> 00:57:27,040 So on this particular facility, they're going to have a fence along parallel to this brand 697 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,000 new road and then the entire perimeter of the site. 698 00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:35,160 So they have their entire, once they have a guard house which is at the northern entrance 699 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,400 that's a really wide entrance and then they have a key pad at the southern entrance. 700 00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:41,980 So this will be secure for a while. 701 00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:48,280 They came in and they said we want, we'll do a six-foot vival code and we want our two-feet 702 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,860 of barbed wire to that code, doesn't allow. 703 00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:54,340 We're working with them, we're showing them that we've shown them the other things. 704 00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:59,500 they've agreed, at least consensually agreed, to a fencing along the front that's not chain 705 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:07,220 link, and working on the other edges. They're pushing from bottom line, they're pushing 706 00:58:07,220 --> 00:58:17,340 for chain link, they want it to be 18, all that stuff. Then with this, this is the, we're 707 00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:23,060 not going to get away from that. We've not put that in there. Under your code, under the fencing 708 00:58:23,060 --> 00:58:26,700 requirement, you can provide a waiver for Chainlink, Finselund, 709 00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:28,760 Brighters Zone for industrial use. 710 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,940 And that's some height you're permitted at six feet. 711 00:58:32,940 --> 00:58:34,100 There's no provision for that. 712 00:58:35,660 --> 00:58:37,980 So we're working with their design team. 713 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,100 I know it's going to come up. 714 00:58:39,580 --> 00:58:42,540 I told them that that is a code ordinance change. 715 00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:43,860 We need to change that. 716 00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:46,840 And it's already been through all those pieces. 717 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:55,660 is. So they're their ranchers working on what they need for security lines. They're 718 00:58:55,660 --> 00:58:59,420 looking at actually at some top soil, they're looking at burming possibly along that front 719 00:58:59,420 --> 00:59:05,040 area. So a six foot fence would actually be a taller fence because it burned up for 720 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:10,880 working. But I expect that to come back. It told them no barbed wire and max of the six 721 00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:13,940 to the office of the federal government. 722 00:59:15,580 --> 00:59:18,360 The government can say, is it the manipulation of the 723 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,460 presidency of your project, or a couple of interiors, 724 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,060 especially the administration. 725 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,180 We don't know what the right side of that property could be. 726 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,040 The hotel, whatever, is really important for that road 727 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,600 and that's what we're pushing for not having 728 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,640 industrial access. 729 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,720 They have a real break. 730 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:53,600 But do you also have to take into consideration to what they're building, what they're producing? 731 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:59,640 I mean they have it obviously if they've already planned for a guard shack and a keyed entry. 732 01:00:00,860 --> 01:00:11,000 So, why would we not entertain allowing them to do that if they put the tall or evergreen's in front of it? To hide it? 733 01:00:53,510 --> 01:01:03,350 I would just suggest not cutting them off with what they want to do if they can, if they 734 01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:07,930 It's some kind of electrified fence at the top or whatever, some things to keep people 735 01:01:07,930 --> 01:01:13,470 from climbing over the fence, but putting some kind of landscaping that covers so that 736 01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:14,930 you don't see it in the garden. 737 01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:26,850 You've got a $1.00 company coming in here to meet it, there's ways to work around this. 738 01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:32,990 So we agree, we have told them that, for example, federal government is not allowed for our 739 01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:33,190 environment. 740 01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:35,190 But I'm talking like that. 741 01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:39,730 The only thing that's coming to mind is like cow fence, that's all I need to find. 742 01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:44,470 I don't know that, that's what's coming to my mind, I don't know why, but yeah, something 743 01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:51,130 just, let them have something to wear, they have something nice, and then extra security 744 01:01:51,130 --> 01:01:51,470 measure. 745 01:01:53,170 --> 01:01:53,850 I am sorry. 746 01:01:55,550 --> 01:01:56,090 What happened? 747 01:01:56,250 --> 01:01:56,390 No. 748 01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:59,920 I'm gonna take this orange. 749 01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:04,740 Then on the back, in the west side, do whatever. 750 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,540 Do-we-we-we yeah. 751 01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:08,920 I mean, obviously it's an issue. 752 01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:11,460 But that's the work that work, you know, 753 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,780 if you say you don't wanna know, 754 01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:13,500 there 755 01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:17,770 is no one more. 756 01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:20,070 What does the plan in Mississippi have? 757 01:02:21,170 --> 01:02:23,590 In Mississippi is not an inter-stiction. 758 01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:25,610 Well okay, but that's fine. 759 01:02:25,610 --> 01:02:28,310 But is there, I mean, is that why they're trying to push on the barbed wire? 760 01:02:28,550 --> 01:02:31,570 They may not have the chance to be planted at a zero. 761 01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:32,370 Zero. 762 01:02:34,410 --> 01:02:37,110 But literally, literally, that entire plant is there. 763 01:02:37,590 --> 01:02:37,830 Okay. 764 01:02:38,190 --> 01:02:41,610 So we have provided thrasher with a fixing plant. 765 01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:48,550 And we open the door and said that our biggest concern, we think the biggest concern of 766 01:02:48,550 --> 01:02:53,590 planting commission and the council is going to be what that frontage is, $150 million 767 01:02:53,590 --> 01:02:59,090 down a plan. They're actually like, what is that screen going to look like? That should be a 768 01:02:59,090 --> 01:03:04,130 big concern. And if they have recommendations for emissions that they could, we bring them back to the 769 01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:10,990 planning committee. But it's going to require a coaching. We have time because the we're talking 770 01:03:10,990 --> 01:03:15,730 about at least a year and a half before they're at that point and they'd be putting it to the 771 01:03:15,730 --> 01:03:25,910 I think that's a very reasonable approach and almost put in the ownership on them, they've 772 01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:26,130 okay. 773 01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:33,930 Here's what we don't want, here's what we're trying to accomplish, how does which thing? 774 01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:39,150 What would you want, you know, how could you do this and still accomplish it rather than 775 01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:45,510 us kind of coming up with, you know, I think the firm is a great idea right now. 776 01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:50,870 But, you know, if they walk in with something better than the burn, then that's better. 777 01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:54,010 My statement is just to be open to whatever they want. 778 01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:56,670 You know, I mean, yes, it has to have its guidelines. 779 01:03:56,990 --> 01:04:02,110 It has to be within certain state, federal, city regulations. 780 01:04:02,650 --> 01:04:03,790 But just be open. 781 01:04:04,050 --> 01:04:08,430 I mean, they're coming into this very tiny community in this open thing. 782 01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:11,410 That's awesome. 783 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:12,230 I mean, yeah. 784 01:04:12,430 --> 01:04:15,370 Right now, the world is not having to allow barbed wire. 785 01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:22,370 Well, but if they don't necessarily have barbed wire, but something, if they feel they 786 01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:29,230 need something up there to add a second measure of security, to be open, so what that is 787 01:04:29,230 --> 01:04:35,550 and being able to potentially hide it is landscaping, because I know that there is a plant or something 788 01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:36,570 down in front of the oil. 789 01:04:37,070 --> 01:04:38,990 They're going down to from oil. 790 01:04:39,310 --> 01:04:40,770 I don't know what the name of it is. 791 01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:44,650 It sits way back off the road, but it's not too long. 792 01:04:44,810 --> 01:04:45,890 It's another one that's down there. 793 01:04:47,310 --> 01:04:52,570 And they have the security type fence. 794 01:04:52,810 --> 01:04:53,930 I don't know if it's barbed wire. 795 01:04:53,950 --> 01:04:58,870 I didn't really look that close, but they have all the tall green 796 01:04:58,870 --> 01:05:00,810 effort greens in front of it to hide it. 797 01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:03,910 And you can barely see whatever it is secure. 798 01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:07,690 And it's not barbed wire, but it's sometimes an electrified 799 01:05:07,690 --> 01:05:11,030 This is an ad and security measure for that. 800 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:13,210 It is, but yeah. 801 01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:16,130 So we are expecting to hear someone back from, 802 01:05:16,590 --> 01:05:17,690 are you going to brush... 803 01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:22,890 They can push, and we've been drinks a lot of time in Fencing. 804 01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:25,810 They'll actually have my end. 805 01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:27,870 I'll just take more footage of this. 806 01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:32,310 We always want to make sure that the public Friday day is 807 01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:40,510 So again, this, the amount of investment that the state can see of me, the other side's got an up on it. 808 01:05:41,090 --> 01:05:44,070 And we want to be sure that what comes in next is even better than what. 809 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,860 They know what we don't want. 810 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,340 I think my courage is the first compromise. 811 01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:57,560 We plan to be something. 812 01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:00,520 Yeah, I don't know where you guys are. 813 01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:01,580 They didn't even ask it. 814 01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:04,220 Even with them when they came up with our wire. 815 01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:07,260 They said, we want to protect the damage. 816 01:06:07,260 --> 01:06:10,800 We want to protect, make sure that we are consistent. 817 01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:16,840 Whatever you want to do, let's sign the backside or open it. 818 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:25,400 And I still believe that what I want to think many of our project in this single talk job is around the error. 819 01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:35,480 I just had to force my opinion on the open. 820 01:06:36,580 --> 01:06:38,680 Well, very right, you're almost going to use a facial water. 821 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,420 Oh, there you go. 822 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:43,680 But that's how we secure it. 823 01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:47,340 Because somebody can go and load up one of those drain bars with explosives. 824 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,040 I could go off on the Union and stay here. 825 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,340 Don't give these guys anything. 826 01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:53,400 No, I'm just saying. 827 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,280 I'm not just saying, because these are, these, 828 01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:57,220 they don't even mean that's the key point. 829 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,240 This particular group is very like Maddie. 830 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,680 They hear those things and they, their minds. 831 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,900 It'll come up with a meaning that this is, 832 01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:07,140 or nobody else. 833 01:07:07,940 --> 01:07:10,120 Okay, going back to the ordinance. 834 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,660 I don't have clear direction on my commission's thought on height. 835 01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:17,340 We could establish a maximum height 836 01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:20,760 and based off of the little sketch that I've got 837 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:33,260 from the plan. 125 feet would, I think, fulfill all their requirements, as they're showing about 115 and I'm sure there's an error somewhere in there. 838 01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:41,380 Can I ask you just real quick? If they have something that's 115 feet, don't they have to have one of those lights on it or something? 839 01:07:41,380 --> 01:07:42,140 OK. 840 01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:42,960 They're going to have the. 841 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,760 It'll be FAA. 842 01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:44,980 OK. 843 01:07:45,460 --> 01:07:47,460 This is not the stat. 844 01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,980 The stat is going to be considerably higher than those. 845 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,280 It's the state of issue 25. 846 01:07:52,620 --> 01:07:54,960 I mean, the federal air quality would go. 847 01:07:55,240 --> 01:08:00,120 OK, it's still they got to do something for air travel. 848 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,100 In the air guard room. 849 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,740 In the air. 850 01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:04,000 Exactly. 851 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:04,640 Well, OK. 852 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:05,700 Oh, so. 853 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,520 Yeah. 854 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:08,260 Right. 855 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:31,280 So the stack, I'm glad you mention that because I was thinking that the way where the administrator's labor colored, the whole extent of even the stack. 856 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:37,300 The stack is exempt from height, bill freeze, spires, those sorts of things. 857 01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:39,940 It's the non-habitable. 858 01:08:41,020 --> 01:08:45,640 So they had a, because we had asked them on the stack. 859 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,860 It could be structurally they have a box all around the coast. 860 01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:55,400 And on the factory area they could have told us they could have been 861 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,920 a bunch of pipes and tubes on the top. 862 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,520 But when we looked at it, we can't quite see it all here, but in the little diagram they 863 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:12,240 have on their site plan, here are all these little floors and in the little section there's 864 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,920 a little office up there and there are places that people have to get to and part of their 865 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,300 daily routine they would be into. 866 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,240 So they may not be conditioned space, but they're spaces that come to the floor. 867 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:29,640 So we've removed floors because an industrial, like the warehouse space is going to have a 60-foot, 868 01:09:31,060 --> 01:09:37,460 60 feet to the top of the roof. You don't have a clear space, probably a 50 feet, and it may be one floor. 869 01:09:38,740 --> 01:09:43,040 In the stack, they're going to have 25 floors, but they're all visiting as little as I need to. 870 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:50,300 So in the industrial and manufacturing floors, it doesn't translate well, as it would 871 01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:55,460 from office part or happen. Office buildings, housing, 872 01:09:55,660 --> 01:09:59,200 those sorts of things. So this one we've just termed it as height. 873 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,420 The high-meat feed is the maximum height that we've shown or has been shown 874 01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:08,140 throughout the land development regulation. 875 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,420 That's where it started there. 876 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,040 That's where the 90 comes from. The maximum that we've shown. 877 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:24,660 I don't see any prohibitions within any of the other language and the codes set a high limit for the city. 878 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,160 I hope that are very concerned about the environmental 879 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,780 air condition. 880 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,040 More openings that there is to discretion, 881 01:10:55,420 --> 01:11:00,180 I think, the more opportunity there is for a challenge. 882 01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:02,680 I would like, what we're going to do 883 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,480 is to know what's the difference between 1,900 884 01:11:05,940 --> 01:11:07,620 and 1,000 that comes down to it. 885 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,520 When a district is lonely, do itself. 886 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,940 Now, we increase that by right. 887 01:11:13,420 --> 01:11:14,860 There is no discretion anymore. 888 01:11:15,420 --> 01:11:19,260 The second thing that comes in to go to the permit, we check the box and we go on to the 889 01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:19,600 flight. 890 01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:24,360 Otherwise, they're going to be looking, frankly, to me saying, the direction, and I don't 891 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:30,540 have the public here saying, or it gives you the, why should you be the one who decided, frankly, 892 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,720 by going to take that position, why? 893 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,820 We're here, going to the Custom Minus Bowl, S.D.I. 894 01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:43,880 thing, being 120, going to be 20, it's surely a good thing to compromise, frankly, if you 895 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,540 We have to give them to them and say, you know what, we don't like the fence, it's us. 896 01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:51,240 So we've covered on this here, so you don't have to go through a destructionary labor process. 897 01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:54,660 We'll work with this on another op-amp. 898 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:56,200 That's just fine. 899 01:11:56,660 --> 01:11:58,560 So I'll be right back in about a few days. 900 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,600 Okay, so hi, I can establish that on 125 feet. 901 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,280 There are going to be two places in the code. 902 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,800 I'll show you at the next place we'll put that. 903 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:11,980 And then on the comfort level, would you keep the option for deviations about that? 904 01:12:30,220 --> 01:12:33,380 I'm not quite sure where they've taken the dementia from. 905 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,260 I just, I hate for the architect to come in and say that it's 115 people. 906 01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:41,780 We had to do a three-foot parapet. 907 01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:50,200 But we believe in the negation, and then finally suggest that, you know, I did this, try to keep it at whatever time. 908 01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:54,040 I don't want to buy it, so we don't go for this crazy. 909 01:12:56,140 --> 01:13:01,440 Just think the more stuff that's done in our right opens us up to the less bakery. 910 01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:05,880 So I really don't think that, I don't think this is a bad news. 911 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,080 I think, I don't think it's going to be written in some residents that are here. 912 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:25,160 I agree with you, it's just that any time someone says a deviation or an administrative 913 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:32,340 deviation, the perception is that we made some sort of concession to them when we don't 914 01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:32,820 really have. 915 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:38,020 And two sections already opened up. 916 01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:42,980 Now just, I mean, it's just really, it's Thursday in this game now. 917 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,460 I can play, but it's a charity golf course or whatever. 918 01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:46,760 Let's see where I'm going to play that. 919 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:47,620 What are they going to do? 920 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:48,640 What are they going to do? 921 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,380 How are they going to play? 922 01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:51,960 Is there going to be black smoke coming out? 923 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,750 I mean, we can just 924 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,740 increase them all right. 925 01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:03,620 Okay. 926 01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:10,320 Another issue that they have a gunner file, 927 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,020 which makes perfect sense is lighting for them to decide. 928 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,260 So under 19a, we have lighting requirements. 929 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,040 They really focus more towards streetscapes. 930 01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:22,860 It's lawful ought to make sense that you have the street lights used to be here. 931 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:27,220 But on this type of facility, there are OSHA requirements and security requirements. 932 01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:32,340 That trucking area, that large parking lot, or some light trucks that are going to become in 24 seconds. 933 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,000 They need to have light. 934 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,440 Under your general code requirements, your previous code requirements, 935 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,420 There's actually a height requirement and some light style requirements that exist. 936 01:14:45,020 --> 01:14:46,160 I pulled that code forth. 937 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,000 So it's actually in here. 938 01:14:48,220 --> 01:14:51,100 So if it's a standalone district, you can have a lighting. 939 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,100 We added a simple phrase. 940 01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:57,300 This is a lighting style, standard shape, and consistent with the architecture style and the principal building. 941 01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,980 So if the industrial building is going to be an industrial building. 942 01:15:01,490 --> 01:15:28,350 The maximum height of on-site freestanding lights should not exceed 40 feet. But this is what is identified in our current code. Is this probably... Is that the standard for parking lights? When you see a mall, there's big lights in a mall, that's probably the light. The light goes probably out of lights. Mark losing those things are probably at 38 to 45. 943 01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:32,390 So with the LED lights down, they're not as tall. 944 01:15:33,490 --> 01:15:36,570 So this less intruses again, outside the site. 945 01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:39,650 Because it'll actually require, if you're probably 946 01:15:39,650 --> 01:15:43,090 a little of a 14-foot, banks, or the LED. 947 01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:45,650 Here's a more light. 948 01:15:46,810 --> 01:15:46,950 Yes. 949 01:15:47,450 --> 01:15:47,850 Great. 950 01:15:48,010 --> 01:15:49,590 I mean, I just want to make sure if that's 951 01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:51,590 because it says, shall not exceed 40 feet. 952 01:15:51,790 --> 01:15:55,210 So I just wanted to make sure that that would be where 953 01:16:15,580 --> 01:16:16,240 I'm my mind is I can 954 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:24,010 We also put in here because this is the area other portion of the code all outdoor lighting shall be downward directed and 955 01:16:24,010 --> 01:16:27,390 and shield it as to prevent other parcels from being directly eliminated. 956 01:16:28,370 --> 01:16:32,210 And again, the more up-to-date lighting standards, 957 01:16:32,850 --> 01:16:36,170 if you can see it from somewhere else and it's washed in with a property 958 01:16:36,170 --> 01:16:38,090 you're paying for something in it, 959 01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:39,890 then we're seeing that. 960 01:16:40,370 --> 01:16:41,630 Are they going to wash the buildings? 961 01:16:42,030 --> 01:16:44,090 Are they going to wash the buildings? 962 01:16:44,090 --> 01:16:45,910 We don't know. 963 01:16:48,050 --> 01:16:49,250 We don't know. 964 01:16:50,450 --> 01:16:56,030 We say, I may have not gotten that far along, but I don't know. 965 01:16:59,570 --> 01:17:13,150 We also identified where outer lighting is provided, the maximum incidental light spillage 966 01:17:13,150 --> 01:17:21,110 on to adjacent non-SDI parcels shall be 0.2 foot candles as measured at 8 feet above average 967 01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:26,130 grade at the property line receiving parcel. So this is more descriptive than what 968 01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:32,430 currently have anywhere in our code but they're going to do a study and show where all light 969 01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:39,370 adds and if you had a 0.2 foot candle the edge of the property wouldn't be enough light and 970 01:17:41,530 --> 01:17:47,410 That's what that's showing and you can see there are these plans, there are several hundred feet. 971 01:17:50,010 --> 01:17:56,790 The Garn house that entry is a hundred nineteen feet from the street and the parking lots are beyond that. 972 01:17:57,490 --> 01:17:58,790 But that's pretty good. 973 01:17:59,670 --> 01:18:04,670 So I'm going to see you putting lights along the road. 974 01:18:05,550 --> 01:18:15,610 That's a discussion. It is a requirement of our code to have lighting on the street, but it gave it some of the state's allocators for a lot of money. 975 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:24,890 We're trying to maximize every aspect of the reservation. Some of the frontage requirements, the plans requirement, some of it would be on the other side. 976 01:18:46,720 --> 01:19:00,780 We're trying to write sizing, again, if we get the clear space for a truck to get in and we could do it on an 11 and a half foot or 12 foot length, at 6 inches or it's actually a foot of asphalt for both lanes, 977 01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:04,220 a three-course of a month. That's a significant cost. 978 01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:10,340 So, we have an advantage of infiltrating. We've got our 979 01:19:10,340 --> 01:19:14,400 nose under the tent and we're trying to make sure that money 980 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,100 is spent, where it makes the most sense that we've filled out. 981 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,440 I would expect on this that lighting is definitely going 982 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:23,860 to be requested at sections. 983 01:19:26,410 --> 01:19:27,250 And it would make sense. 984 01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:29,230 I mean, you've been around the city. It makes sense with these 985 01:19:29,230 --> 01:19:44,780 24-hour traffic, and that was a question, but it always has nothing to do with the code 986 01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:45,580 that we're looking at. 987 01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,740 The state's done a bit preliminary, yeah, state's done a preliminary traffic study. 988 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:55,740 There are some turn-late improvements that they're going to do as part of this project, as 989 01:19:55,740 --> 01:19:56,620 part of the... 990 01:19:58,570 --> 01:20:02,970 and they, I guess, this type of work will not shift work. 991 01:20:05,130 --> 01:20:09,590 So, yes, the shift work and then they've got approximately 80 tracks a day in material 992 01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:09,970 coming, 993 01:20:13,580 --> 01:20:16,660 but the shift, they have to be rapid and. 994 01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:21,520 And they potentially have three shifts for this site. 995 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:29,370 So, right now, there's the one way out, and there's the emergency access and a great 996 01:20:29,370 --> 01:20:29,750 estimate. 997 01:20:30,410 --> 01:20:35,850 I told the developer, and everybody's clear that before additional development occurs here, 998 01:20:35,850 --> 01:20:44,090 and secondary access but I assume by the way we've identified it and it's some distance 999 01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:44,970 there. 1000 01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:53,270 I just think did a preliminary I don't have to report here but they did a 1001 01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:58,150 preliminary about what they've got the term movement. Well their projecting is the 1002 01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:05,730 shift change out of the plan, down to the street, out to about nine and all the 1003 01:21:05,730 --> 01:21:10,270 around. But you won't know around two. There's only so far two. 1004 01:21:11,530 --> 01:21:14,210 Are you going to go out to the old route nine of the new route? 1005 01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:20,010 Oh, old route nine. And then they have to go down to the five-day exit. 1006 01:21:22,660 --> 01:21:25,080 Three, 90 miles an hour. Go down that route. 1007 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,920 Please, I'm about to do that in town. 1008 01:21:32,210 --> 01:21:37,090 Under building use, so this will come through 1009 01:21:37,090 --> 01:21:37,230 So, 1010 01:21:39,690 --> 01:21:47,250 under the site plan process, under 19a, under your useless list, there are conditional 1011 01:21:47,250 --> 01:21:47,670 uses. 1012 01:21:48,930 --> 01:21:55,530 It's not clear how you get to the conditional uses, like heavy industrial and SDI as it 1013 01:21:55,530 --> 01:21:58,930 conditionally permitted, but you have to go through a conditional use process. 1014 01:21:59,810 --> 01:22:02,570 So, we've referenced back to the 5.7. 1015 01:22:05,460 --> 01:22:10,620 A conditional uses shall be administered by the Solidarity Review Committee at Versa 1016 01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:12,420 should be appealed to the DEA. 1017 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,140 Initially, you shall be granted as the following conditions are made. 1018 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,340 These would not clearly endanger the public health safety or constitute a nuisance 1019 01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:22,880 of locating or proposing the development according to the plans. 1020 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,900 Information is submitted and approved. 1021 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,940 These would not substantially injure the value of training properties. 1022 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,860 The location and character have developed according to the plans. 1023 01:22:31,460 --> 01:22:35,100 An information approved will be in harmony with approximate plan uses and consistent 1024 01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:36,520 with purposes of the district. 1025 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,980 and use complies with the specific requirements 1026 01:22:38,980 --> 01:22:42,980 set forth in municipal warden, a special exception. 1027 01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:48,300 One of the things that we do not have in this provision 1028 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,860 that we found is that under the chart for allowable uses 1029 01:22:52,860 --> 01:22:58,780 under 19a, for SDI, things like heavy industrial, 1030 01:22:58,780 --> 01:23:02,720 which this is, is a condition we've used on the board. 1031 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:02,900 I 1032 01:23:07,540 --> 01:23:13,120 don't understand that, we didn't have that as part of this public hearing and section 1033 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:13,420 of code. 1034 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,940 So we put in the reference back to what the process is. 1035 01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:22,980 On the parking standards, 1036 01:23:26,630 --> 01:23:29,950 we have identified for parking standards and this is at all other 1037 01:23:30,610 --> 01:23:31,570 SD districts. 1038 01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:37,190 All parking, including open parking areas, cover parking areas, garages, low index areas. 1039 01:23:42,610 --> 01:23:48,030 We took out some convoluted language in here, essentially it's telling you to do a landscape 1040 01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:48,430 buffer. 1041 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:57,580 Parking shall be internally accessed by private driveways such as railways, railways, such 1042 01:23:57,580 --> 01:23:58,260 are available. 1043 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:07,020 I think on this one they had a draft where I think we want to add the text here in reference 1044 01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:10,700 to internal drives, so 1045 01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:19,830 again, for these types of uses, we're focusing the parking value up in. 1046 01:24:20,970 --> 01:24:26,970 Parking should be totally access, so we're not having multiple driveway cuts focused on 1047 01:24:26,970 --> 01:24:30,290 the driveways, or it's coming off of alleyways or we're for 1048 01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:34,590 special districts that are outside 1049 01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:41,150 of community unit type. That's this particular type. Open parking areas may be allowed unmasked 1050 01:24:41,150 --> 01:24:47,410 On the frontage, if permanent landscaping and screen is provided, or through an administrator 1051 01:24:47,410 --> 01:24:53,450 waiver as a scratch section 1.5, so on a plant like this where they have a lot of 1052 01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:57,530 frontage along the front line and a lot of things that are going to happen there, the 1053 01:24:57,530 --> 01:25:00,410 encouragement is to provide permanent landscaping. 1054 01:25:00,690 --> 01:25:09,650 The permanent landscaping requirement is one tree every 70 feet plus pushes and ground cover 1055 01:25:09,650 --> 01:25:16,790 up to 50% on a 10 foot stretch, but that, if they have that, they don't have to specifically 1056 01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:20,850 put things around the parking lot, and on the outside of the edge, we're done. 1057 01:25:22,090 --> 01:25:28,950 A similar requirement, this is similar to the language that was utilized for rock well 1058 01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:33,030 storage, and you could see up, they actually use more trees than was required back there. 1059 01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:40,150 That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a treat, but it is landscape. 1060 01:25:43,620 --> 01:25:50,900 We did not touch the landscape standards that's consistent, so this talks about the buffer and how that gets done. 1061 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,380 Under special districts, there's no provision for signage. 1062 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:05,340 We reviewed the signage code and we made following recommendations that all these businesses should be allowed to dress signage. 1063 01:26:05,340 --> 01:26:07,420 This is all out in 18A. 1064 01:26:08,020 --> 01:26:10,900 If they have audits, they can put on signage on their audits. 1065 01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:17,360 If they have a band sign which is above the first floor of a building, this is the band. 1066 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,140 They can put a sign. 1067 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,940 We also identify that they can put a monument sign and we're identifying current entries. 1068 01:26:26,140 --> 01:26:30,100 So for this particular site, this allows more flexibility to them. 1069 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:35,060 Normally, they'd be allowed one monument sign, but these types of plants generally would 1070 01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:36,120 have one entrance. 1071 01:26:36,380 --> 01:26:39,400 It says people were to go, go enter, drop off. 1072 01:26:41,650 --> 01:26:43,830 They could do name plate sign, which would be on the building. 1073 01:26:45,250 --> 01:26:51,010 We also are adding, because there is no sign that has an 18A that can go above the first 1074 01:26:51,010 --> 01:27:01,590 floor of our building, a large building, so we've identified a wall sign, a wall sign would 1075 01:27:01,590 --> 01:27:04,970 a fairly large sign, they have the capability to put it on the set of bill. 1076 01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:12,250 And they can distribute it in multiple signs, but we know that signage is going to be something they want. 1077 01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:15,170 It is the same amount of 1078 01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:21,450 signage. 1079 01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:25,770 So, we have to consider our requirements. 1080 01:27:26,290 --> 01:27:31,070 The building itself and the property itself will all be this. 1081 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:44,220 It's in the future possible that this becomes a business industrial plan, and there's directional 1082 01:27:44,220 --> 01:27:49,520 signage that would occur, or there's intercession, I'll say, but we have provisions in the 1083 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,820 code for those types of stuff. 1084 01:27:53,870 --> 01:27:57,170 Able 22, Special Business District Standards, does not change. 1085 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:06,640 23A, SDI standards, these are for the standards within an urban area, these did not change, so 1086 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,320 So if you look at the front setbacks, they have maximum front setbacks. 1087 01:28:11,790 --> 01:28:19,290 23B SDI standards, these are all new, so we took the A standards and we essentially 1088 01:28:19,290 --> 01:28:25,270 modified it so that all the front setbacks are rear setbacks that are building to the 1089 01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:27,230 street were requiring the pushback. 1090 01:28:28,350 --> 01:28:30,650 So we have 30 foot minimums on all of these. 1091 01:28:31,050 --> 01:28:35,910 This particular site plan is over 100 feet from the property line to any of the structure. 1092 01:28:36,650 --> 01:28:45,150 But it would allow them to put a guard house on the culture of the property line if they wanted to put stuff close to the property line, but generally they're going to be sent. 1093 01:28:47,650 --> 01:28:51,370 We've knocked out all of the abilities for encroachments and onings and all of that. 1094 01:28:52,050 --> 01:29:01,270 It doesn't exist for this use. On the principal buildings, we've knocked out store stories because again, those pieces. 1095 01:29:02,210 --> 01:29:10,950 We will adjust the eaves to parapet to 125 feet or through waver. 1096 01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:16,770 We consistent with the changes that we just did from the actual text. 1097 01:29:19,410 --> 01:29:22,170 Lot went, this is a standalone district, so that's not applicable. 1098 01:29:22,970 --> 01:29:23,550 Lot coverage. 1099 01:29:24,350 --> 01:29:28,250 Lot coverage is a building cover under our coat. 1100 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:34,210 But it's not parking areas, it's not stormwater areas, the utility areas, these are buildings. 1101 01:29:35,150 --> 01:29:36,690 So it's 60% maps. 1102 01:29:37,650 --> 01:29:44,130 They provided us a lot of information because we wanted to make sure we could test all of this. 1103 01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:50,090 On this particular site for phase one, 79% of the site is going to be. 1104 01:29:53,150 --> 01:29:55,690 They have 10% of the site's asphalt. 1105 01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:59,830 Buildings are 7% and they have some concreasants. 1106 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 Unpaid areas, all over about 4%. They give us a preliminary sketch of what these two possibly could look like on the site, and again, they're well under 60% for building coverage. So, you look at the buildings right now, they're at 7%. So, they could triple the size of the building, still be well. They can have a lot of asphalt. It's just a roof destruction. So, that's what that should be. 1107 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,780 And the parking and trash and storage and all of those are permitted in all the layers. 1108 01:30:36,420 --> 01:30:41,460 This is an urban environment we would not require, we would restrict it in front areas. 1109 01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:46,820 But in this particular condition, you remember we have some buffering requirements that exist. 1110 01:30:48,260 --> 01:30:53,280 Okay, we're greeting the edge, securing the edge, and then we can do whatever we need to decide. 1111 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:53,780 So, 1112 01:31:02,370 --> 01:31:06,930 the other questions or comments from the planning commission will 1113 01:31:10,190 --> 01:31:18,850 close the public hearing and entertain a motion to recommend the code amendment to the City Council for the Grants and Municipal Code. 1114 01:31:18,850 --> 01:31:29,730 After 19-A Smart Code article 3.9, Special Districts, Article 6.1, Special Districts SDB and SDI, and 1115 01:31:29,730 --> 01:31:33,150 Article 6, 18-22, 23-16. 1116 01:31:34,590 --> 01:31:35,070 I'll leave a minute. 1117 01:31:35,870 --> 01:31:36,970 There's a motion in a second. 1118 01:31:37,550 --> 01:31:38,390 On favor say aye. 1119 01:31:39,350 --> 01:31:39,950 Any opposed? 1120 01:31:41,690 --> 01:31:43,770 Thank you very much for the discussion. 1121 01:31:45,150 --> 01:31:45,450 Thank you. 1122 01:31:46,110 --> 01:31:56,290 If you have any questions about any of the stuff coming through, we can move quickly email me, follow me, we can say a time signal through. 1123 01:31:57,150 --> 01:32:01,810 There's a lot of information coming forward with this and we're happy to get you up to the interval. 1124 01:32:02,810 --> 01:32:06,820 Thank you very much. 1125 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:16,080 There's one more item on our agenda, the Gypsy Utilities Water Booster Station. 1126 01:32:18,420 --> 01:32:23,240 So as you heard, clay companies are going to have to do some improvements to support 1127 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:23,600 this. 1128 01:32:24,220 --> 01:32:30,440 And JUR has submitted for a site plan router to show that they're going to be putting a booster 1129 01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:32,500 station over a center. 1130 01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:38,220 It's the side where Chick-fil-A is, more or less, but the area that's not built to write 1131 01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:39,660 south of Chick-fil-A. 1132 01:32:41,380 --> 01:32:44,320 There are some technical items that still need to be resolved. 1133 01:32:44,900 --> 01:32:50,020 Those items include a copy of the easement agreement between JUI and the owner, I start. 1134 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,780 We are also waiting for a survey to demonstrate the location of the booster. 1135 01:32:55,080 --> 01:33:01,860 Now, I included a map where more or less it shows you location where it's going, but 1136 01:33:01,860 --> 01:33:07,740 they're completing a survey and not a survey. So we'll have that soon. We're also requesting 1137 01:33:07,740 --> 01:33:12,260 for the booster to have an address. So they're also working through those avenues now to make 1138 01:33:12,260 --> 01:33:19,240 sure that it's addressed. With that being said, I'd like for you to look at the survey that they 1139 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:27,000 have included or the vaccination survey. You'll see that the booster station is actually going to be 1140 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,940 around it. It's going to be a building structure, so it's going to look like a small house. 1141 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:38,560 We're also going to be adding some landscaping, because the location of it is going to be really 1142 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:44,200 close to Route 9, so we've asked them to soften the edges by the landscaping. 1143 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:50,360 What do you have there? 1144 01:33:53,940 --> 01:34:00,380 So, planning commission, this is coming to you because the parcel on the zoning requires 1145 01:34:00,380 --> 01:34:04,420 is the planning commission to make a decision whether or not the public hearing for this. 1146 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,420 This is in an established subdivision, it's a lead project. 1147 01:34:10,140 --> 01:34:14,060 So that's the first to make sure that it's happening and that's in a public hearing. 1148 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:21,140 If this was under 19a, they would rezone a spark code, be able to run this through as a site plan. 1149 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:31,320 And if there's any questions to this, I mean, we provided them a sketch about what this little 1150 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:36,220 building could look like, they liked it, they're going to build it from the other side of the road. 1151 01:34:37,340 --> 01:34:46,880 And the boost station of this will do, they will actually provide additional pressure to, not only this commercial subdivision, but for extra crossing. 1152 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:53,720 The pipe work you've probably seen them coming down, build, build your head across the room, it's all part of this. 1153 01:35:12,860 --> 01:35:22,550 is there a motion to approve the site plan for the juxtaposition for the motion? 1154 01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:24,150 Is there a second? 1155 01:35:25,370 --> 01:35:26,070 Second. 1156 01:35:27,470 --> 01:35:28,870 Any opposed? 1157 01:35:30,850 --> 01:35:30,970 Okay. 1158 01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:37,370 It's like four announcements for the next planning commission meeting is 1159 01:35:37,370 --> 01:35:41,570 10th at least gathered for one day August 7th. 1160 01:35:41,570 --> 01:35:42,450 The other announcements. 1161 01:35:43,390 --> 01:35:47,590 I'll add that I added a timeline to the handouts that I gave you today. 1162 01:35:48,230 --> 01:35:48,450 Okay. 1163 01:35:48,930 --> 01:35:52,590 The next planning commission we're going to have also a public hearing and that's going 1164 01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:56,670 to be for the rezoning and the land development and the platform for the larger. 1165 01:35:59,090 --> 01:36:04,890 We've also received a request from Dame Red Bulls for a draft development agreement from 1166 01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:05,450 Fire Run. 1167 01:36:06,830 --> 01:36:12,770 They have a draft development agreement at any time they can come in with provisions of 1168 01:36:12,770 --> 01:36:13,090 that. 1169 01:36:13,770 --> 01:36:18,710 It would be at the next planning commission, it could be later on, so you're aware that 1170 01:36:18,710 --> 01:36:20,030 that's out there. 1171 01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:24,180 So the next meeting is showing the fact I'm watching. 1172 01:36:24,940 --> 01:36:26,480 We're getting back our dinner. 1173 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:28,800 Well, that's what we'll send down. 1174 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,260 I will try to get the, we've gone through 1175 01:36:32,260 --> 01:36:35,020 and we've provided staff comments on the land development plan 1176 01:36:35,020 --> 01:36:39,120 and plan in the zoning application for two more minutes. 1177 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:46,280 So for Gryron, it's part of the career for documents. 1178 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,260 We've identified that it was in the draft agreement. 1179 01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:49,480 We'll see. 1180 01:36:51,020 --> 01:36:51,540 We'll see. 1181 01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:51,640 They prepared. 1182 01:36:52,540 --> 01:36:53,700 We'll see how that comes. 1183 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,000 Bring pizza to the next one. 1184 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:55,280 Okay. 1185 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,940 We'll bring it. 1186 01:36:57,220 --> 01:36:59,440 We'll be sure we get the land development plan and plan. 1187 01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:04,320 So the application out for Jefferson Orchard out to everybody ahead of time. 1188 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:05,060 A few questions. 1189 01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,080 Please do that. 1190 01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:08,740 I'll help. 1191 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,240 I think at the meeting and prepare you all. 1192 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:12,380 There's an audience here. 1193 01:37:14,020 --> 01:37:14,560 Thank you. 1194 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:23,180 We have to make sure that we're flexible. 1195 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,900 So let's make sure that we're flexible. 1196 01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:29,680 We don't have a multi-billion dollar company, 1197 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,620 we don't have a lot of other stuff. 1198 01:37:31,380 --> 01:37:32,420 We're going to be here. 1199 01:37:32,780 --> 01:37:34,020 So the second part is, 1200 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,540 there's some balance stuff we can get 1201 01:37:36,540 --> 01:37:39,020 as we've been very familiar with in the 7 months process. 1202 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,560 There's some stuff we can do and there's some stuff that we need. 1203 01:37:47,070 --> 01:37:56,110 $10,000 on the site is left here, we're talking about a standing 10% of that on something that's going to affect our community for the next 30 years. 1204 01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:02,190 Anything else? 1205 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:05,610 Not? Is there a motion to adjourn? 1206 01:38:06,510 --> 01:38:08,370 Okay, it's second. 1207 01:38:09,230 --> 01:38:11,810 Thanks, I need some time. 1208 01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:13,610 All in favour? Say hi. 1209 01:38:14,210 --> 01:38:14,850 Are you a ghost? 1210 01:38:16,330 --> 01:38:17,510 Yeah, we were a bit afraid. 1211 01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:18,430 We didn't hear anything. 1212 01:38:18,750 --> 01:38:19,550 We were a bit afraid.