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Some issues worked out of fire, so they asked the city manager to see if they could be resolved and if they could end the meeting.

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Is there a motion to accept the agenda as presented?

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Motion is there, second?

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Second.

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All in favor, say aye.

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Any opposed?

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We also have minutes from June 5th's meeting.

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Is there a motion to dispense with the reading of the minutes?

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The motion is there a second?

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Say hi.

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Hi.

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Any opposed?

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Two hours.

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Of course.

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I have the Nets Officer and Committee reports.

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Do we have any reports?

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Planning Commission, I just want to provide you a quick update on what we've described as

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Project Shuttle.

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There's a timeline.

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This is actually the name that staff has known this project as since January with Project Shuttle.

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This actually works. This is the new industrial development that's coming forward.

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Jefferson Orchards wanted to provide you all the timelines so you know what's coming in front of you over the next few months.

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So there's an ordinance that we'll be talking about this evening as a public hearing that code text will be in front of you

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and then it goes in front of City Council on 718

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and then for our second reading on 8-1.

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For Jefferson Orchards, there's going to be a rezoning

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and a land development plan of flat updates.

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Those require a public hearing.

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The public hearing will be scheduled for 8-7

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here in the Planning Commission.

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So you're aware that those will be coming forward.

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We've got those applications

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in where we're viewing them and preparing comments now.

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which was submitted, preliminary was submitted on 6.30,

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we're providing review comments.

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We expect with this team that shortly after,

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this does not require public hearing,

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but we're expecting that at the August meeting,

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we'd be presenting that to the Planning Commission as well,

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so we can review that and we can then proceed to record that.

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What this does on this particular project

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and what we're capable about doing in the city

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is that all of this work can be done with a single public hearing,

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and you can see this is like three months.

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There's nowhere else in the country that can do this type of expedited process.

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So just so you know that that stuff will be coming forward.

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So our next planning commission meeting in August will have a lot on the agenda.

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We'll get that stuff out to everybody.

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If you have questions, ask us.

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And then it will be going on to the council,

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And we're expecting that all of these approvals with all the public hearings and first readings and notices, it'll be at the beginning of September.

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All the stuff will be through the process. But most of your work will be done in August.

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If things change, we'll let you know. But that's just critical for designers.

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I believe that's the planning commission we've had at the section.

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We went to the presentation and judge's torture quickly became top power.

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We had been really working on this since January.

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I got the opportunity to fly to Mississippi to look at their plant in February.

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I don't know how many of them they were, personally only.

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Very confidential. They hired a company named Deloy.

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Their site selector paid about half a million dollars within the term of the site.

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They are approximately, they did one, some of these two, almost 500,000 square feet.

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They are advanced manufacturers. They turn rock into insulation.

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They're internationally known as rock wool.

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The United States are known as rock wool.

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Great market.

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That's all over the world.

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They have a 48% market share in Europe, trying to grow their North American presence,

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with their biggest investment in companies' history.

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About $150 million dollars for phase one.

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Part of the project through the state coming to the council,

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state is fronting the money in mason sewer, water,

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the water, natural gas of the route nine quarter.

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This negotiation actually administered a water, road, and sewer project in more control

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so that all three of those projects can be in one construction project.

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Their support year back in 2012 was resettled, if you remember, Prince of District.

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A third of that, below us and there, was no SDI, Special District Investor.

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Out of the judge's orchard, about 200 acres should be SDI.

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They were buying about some 135 acres.

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It was already its own industrial.

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The first phase is when you employ a hundred people, that this includes a construction

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construction is about a two and a half year project that leaves a remainder of 70 acres

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of Jefferson Fortress to be redeveloped.

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of the infrastructure on the air, but a long order from Jefferson to Portrait Allway

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into town trying to get confirmation that on July 18th

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that a memorandum of understanding

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received

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about one percent, which received one percent of the total contract costs,

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a project cost capped at $1.5 million.

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Thereafter, this city will be in no tax.

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The highly agreement between the county, the board, and the city that gives them property tax relief for a certain number of years.

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And then the STI is the first step.

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STI was basically created in the vacuum in 2012 without anything to use at the end.

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And going through the STI now with a real user, for example, and I'm not sure Edward

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and we have a go through everything, there were some, just, there's any work that's

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in a vacuum without any users in mind, just some amendments that you may, you may,

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none of them are crazy, just some amendments that need to happen in order to get it done.

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For example, STI is assignments to signage.

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Well, they'd like to have a sign.

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Of course they would, but as I kind of looked up in there, we've got a SAC, a SAC is based

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upon their air permit.

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What I asked about environmental concerns, they have to have a federal and state air permit

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or they can't get a building permit here at the city.

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They are buying the land and they're actually doing the site work starting in October.

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They don't think they're going to get the air permit in February.

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They're taking the risk thinking that they're going to have preliminary discussions with the feds

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and they are confident that they are going to get the air from it.

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They want to start doing the dirt by about October.

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Thank you all for your efforts in making this happen.

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Those without saying it took a lot of work from not only hours here or done at City Hall,

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but just quite sure you sleepless nights and phone calls and all, but really do appreciate that.

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That's a good thing. I think that over the next two and a half or three years you might have some audibles,

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big cups and changers, but I think overall I think it sets the city up in order for future economic development

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and to provide safe quality management and non-management jobs.

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Absolutely. I think it was at 150 jobs or so, once it's done. And then I guess you also have the potential for follow-on type of projects.

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They have done that in Mississippi, right now in Mississippi is their plant in North America.

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They have expanded their product line to make it a product that is fire resistant, fireproof.

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Like BMW, Audi, all the major European companies in Europe use this product.

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product, they put it out to production documents in Europe, they don't put insulation in Europe.

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In Europe, raw wool is insulation.

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We think there's a market here.

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The other thing that attracted them to this site was the possibility of having railroad

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square at the Class 1 railroad.

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We've received any information on how their other builds were by the public.

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Did they have any test stories, heart stories, things that a planning commission should look out for?

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We did inform them on Friday, equity announcement came on Thursday, questions that the golf

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force or whatever, we did inform them.

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We think, how far does our job do it?

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Did we need to put out a one-page back sheet to the back sheet?

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If what we're doing, here's what we need to do, gears, they need to be engaged.

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need to email back.

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And so we absolutely agree with that for working public education.

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Mississippi, look at their press release.

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It was very,

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I would say only down there.

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And you have a stack that it basically seemed it was invisible when I was there.

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But the gentleman said that if you go above the stack, it's about 400 degrees, blowing worse air.

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Basically, I can say that the dome and other materials and big furnaces comes out like fire

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optic, and it's a violation.

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you see that gas bill?

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Could you see that gas bill?

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Any other items for the report?

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Any questions from the mission?

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Thank you very much.

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questions will move on to the next item on our agenda.

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the proposal vision to the new community special district.

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Right

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next on this one?

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Yes, actually, Edward has a report that is going to present for you guys on this one.

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So I'll go ahead.

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The commission, we just need to open this as a public hearing.

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So this is a public hearing and it's been noticed out in the paper.

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we need to open it up as a public hearing.

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to officially open the public hearing or the proposed revisions to the new community special

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history.

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So, Slang Commission members, we've got the text in here and you'll see there's a lot

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of underlining and crossing out.

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Starting back in January, we started to look at SDI, that's specific to the question

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of how do we use STI in a special district in one of these communities?

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Bringing the last time to the Planning Commission meeting, we were showing you how that kind of laid out pieces.

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Special districts within SmartCode New Community are identified, one, in new community types.

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So that's how communities form at a community scale, or at a regional scale, and then at a community.

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So when we looked at new community types, there's a couple of things that are within

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this report that we just wanted to outline that we were targeting and trying to achieve

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and prove within our code.

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So the first thing you'll see within the whole code, we actually have revised it.

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So anything related to Special District is identified as Special District.

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The code has some language text about Special District SB, SDB, STI.

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but under the code we just cleaned up those pieces.

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We also wanted to differentiate between a special district

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Within a community type at outside community.

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So the code does allow for you to have up to 20% of a neighborhood dedicated to a special district,

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like an industrial district.

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So you could imagine Beltline at the foundation of Corwin of Branson.

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That could have been a special district industrial and industrial uses could have gotten there.

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You also have places that are on the edge of town.

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And we were looking at

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items out on 16th Avenue.

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If the recycling, mental recycling,

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and you also have the universal forest products,

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they could be outside of community district.

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Under the code, what we identified is that there were maximum areas

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that those who were permitted,

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but they had not identified intervals.

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and they had a 20 by 100 foot lot,

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And they wanted to get special district because they wanted to do an industrial use.

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You could do that. You could apply for that. But it didn't make sense because the uses wouldn't be conducive to that.

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And that's not what this district was actually intended for.

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So we identified some both for a business, a special district business, which could be warehousing, logistics, an office park,

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and a special district industrial, which is the heavy industrial and manufacturing businesses.

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We identified that there would be a minimum acreage within a community type and a minimum acreage outside a community type.

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So within a community type, you could have up to two acres.

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You'd have to have a minimum of two acres within a community type and a maximum of 20% of 100%.

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So this would allow for us to utilize Special District.

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And when you look at two acres of a business park, that ends up being something like two

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city blocks.

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It's a little bit larger than normal blocks, so if there's especially a housing piece

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that needs to go in town, it could happen.

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And also looking at the industrial, a minimum of four acres within a community type.

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So universal forest products could be a standalone community type because it's greater

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than 15 acres outside.

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Or it was combined with, let's say, Fairfax Crossing for planning purposes.

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It also would be at the 20%.

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So there's a choice of things that would be inside and outside.

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So we look at those.

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That's what we wanted to day-free and change between that.

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We also wanted to make sure that on the periphery of our communities that somebody just wouldn't spot zone

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and say, I have a half an acre outside.

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I don't want to deal with community.

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I'm just going to do special districts.

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So we wanted to go and just add some of those protections because we're in the Cobra trying

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to establish communities.

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We also added some clarity under special district business.

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So these are business parks, warehousing parks, very similar to what you see at the Jefferson

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County Industrial Park.

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We wanted to make sure that that was mapped, that it shall be mapped adjacent to a village

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or town center.

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That's to meet some of the other policies.

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in the middle of nowhere.

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It would be an office park adjacent to things

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that would have hadable uses.

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An office park would be adjacent to some place

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that there'd be a potential for a hotel or a potential

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for a restaurant or a potential for housing adjacent to it.

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it's only identified here that it could be mapped.

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But it gives a choice for a restaurant.

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So that's why we wanted to iterate for AHA

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between the community types inside and outside.

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And we also wanted to define the relationship between community types.

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So that is everything that's under special district allocation.

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Under the rezoning for Jefferson Orchards,

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they will be submitting, or they have submitted, and you will be reviewing

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special district industrial outside of community type.

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So it's greater than 15 acres, and it's less than 200.

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And it's going to be a standalone district. We'll show you as we go through the code with that to be identified.

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We then actually looked at the chapter Article 6 that specifically dealt with all the standards.

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All the zoning standards you would be familiar with with the zoning district.

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Article 6 shadows Article 5, which are all your other T-zones.

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But there was some misorganization that we wanted to be sure that we calibrated the standards

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based off of the location.

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So you're going to see within this that when we organized the requirements,

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but we also consolidated it for general to all special districts,

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and then special districts that are a business part,

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and special districts for industrial inside a community and outside a community.

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So as we go through those,

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We also wanted to make sure that the standards, as we went through, we found lots of tables

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and lots of notes in other sections.

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We've inserted those references here.

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There's no surprises when you read them.

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As we go to the package on page nine, you're going to see on building configuration,

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general to special districts.

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What we have done is we've essentially taken the requirements that were applicable to all special districts

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and we reorganize this and we're putting them

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in where the places are appropriate.

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So as we go through, we identified where

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and how we determine building heights,

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setbacks, and expression lines.

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So their allocated is required at a table 22 and 23.

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We've added a new table 23A and 23B.

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So we'll show you how that is out.

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We've referenced where private frontages are

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because it's referenced into the private frontage section

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but it was in reference to your chapter in Article 6.

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We've now modified the parking standards.

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On height limits, we wanted to make sure that under our general code,

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it says in stats on how to click on both the height limits.

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And we just wanted to make sure that that was here,

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because this is a term that would be utilized with these types of users.

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There were a lot of descriptive components within the code

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that makes a lot of sense for urban infill, business park or urban infill industrial district,

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but not for 130 or 150 acre industrial.

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So, we've omitted those from the general requirements for all special districts.

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We then broke down the special districts.

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Based off the timeline here and our experience at this point,

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We've identified special district business, so these are S-B-E, and we've pulled the

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components that were above to things that we would see that would make sense in a business

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part or a warehouse or a client-industrial part that would be within a special district.

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So there would be a condition of quarter-lots, and this is language that's consistent

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with our code.

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There is the ability for commercial uses and ground floor uses and how heights need to be defined within an office park.

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That's identified. Again, this is code that currently exists. We just relocated it.

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We've relocated the language because lodging is permitted in this use.

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It's not permitted in all special districts.

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carried the language, the architectural languages, filly languages, the loading areas, and encroachment

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language that all was in the general specific, we've carried it now specific to the special

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district business. So galleries, arcades, roof pictures, all those components. We could

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see that in an office file. We could see that in urban condition. So those are there.

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We have reserved seats. We fully expect at some point that there is possibility that special district business could come in.

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We could be dealing with users that we need to differentiate between a special business district out in the periphery of the city versus in the city,

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which is based on the timing, having gone through all these pieces. So we have a placeholder. That's what that reserve is for.

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We've now split special district industrial, so it's specific to inside a community unit type and outside a community unit type.

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So if it's inside a community unit type, this could be, for example, the cold storage and belt line.

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It could be other industrial uses that would fit within a community unit type.

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And again on this one, corner lots, some architectural components could occur here where loading areas are.

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It's possible in an urban environment built to the street that there'd be galleries or arcades.

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So we've just inserted almost the same language but calibrated it for industrial uses.

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And that's for within SIDA community.

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Under E at the bottom of page 11, there's a special district outside of community type.

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So these are large footprint users that are outside of community type.

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What we've seen on these types of users, these are the factories, these are the large distribution centers.

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You can drive around the country, search Google Earth and see that generally there's a large production warehouse

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and logistic facility in the middle of the site.

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It's surrounded by truck storage, factory worker parking.

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There may be some out-parcel stuff to it.

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It's usually surrounded by a lot of green

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and it has security, fencing, and gains of limited access points.

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That's the concept of something that's a standalone factory, industrial user,

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regional shipping warehousing,

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some of the things you may see on the I-81 corridor,

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what we're starting to see within the city of Jefferson.

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We've identified it in there because private frontages are silent.

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We've identified the private frontage that's most applicable to this as a common law.

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That means a grassed area with landscape data.

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Simple within our code, so we just flat out stated it here.

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We've identified that loading the service entries which have been limited to access from internal driveways or internal private streets.

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So in a city, we request this come off an alleyway.

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In our large facilities, they're secure.

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They're going to have one or two points of entry to all their service stuff.

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It's not going to come off the streets.

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It comes off their control drive.

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Under height, we actually are recommending a change here.

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But under height, the maximum height which was permitted under the SDI currently is 90 feet.

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We're actually recommending here that, and there will be a change in this language,

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that the maximum height shall be 90 feet.

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And you'll see if there's an exhibit that shows that.

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So that's the maximum allowable under current load.

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That would be a by right.

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And that would show, that's going to show up in table 23B.

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So just a text change here that we'll be making.

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Under these factories, there are heights that may need to exceed.

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We're finding on this particular one, there will be a height.

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So, it's seen, thank you, and it's beyond the status.

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Things that are within their system that we don't know exactly what those things are,

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but we need to baseline.

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So we've included in here the ability to seek a deviation through administrative waiver.

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So that would allow for you to receive maximum money.

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What that means is that under administrative waiver, staff would go through with the

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and there's a checklist of items that would go through to analyze that.

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Does it have impacts on the surrounding community?

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Is it consistent with the compliance of plan?

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So we would go through that checklist and get that through administratively.

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So this allows the flexibility to get, if a building has, it's in the center of the site,

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if it's far away from stuff, and they need to exceed 90 feet,

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we have the ability to buy it by way of money.

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The staff recommendation there is to patrol it but also provide the flexibility.

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It appears that the majority of the structure for this particular ferroxel is going to be 60 feet

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surrounding the stack near the manufacturing.

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It may be as high as 115 feet and the stack determination will be based off of the federal air quality.

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But it's a small portion of the building.

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And again, we –

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Why is that to be so high?

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I understand.

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It's not even going to be the same.

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The federal requirements, it has to – what they've explained to us, it has to be up

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so high that it can evacuate whatever it needs to get out of there.

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Just like a nuclear power plant.

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But it's full at a later time.

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It is.

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So then around – and around – again, we haven't – we've only seen bits and

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pieces of this because they've not finalized the architecture, but what we understand

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is that around the tower element, there's this multi-story with mezzanines and workstations

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and computers and things that are around that stat. The diagram they gave us, because

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they're dealing, they're translating, the American engineers are translating the Danish

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members from metric. They gave us a tentative dimension of 14.114

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.83, which is a really

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out dimension and I don't know, but that's why we feel there's ability to add that flexibility

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and at some point in the architecture they're going to determine that and it'll be reinforced

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in the federal law. But again on this site on 135 acres and the square footage of this

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they're going to be hundreds of feet away from a property line. They're not going to

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be overseeing the residential community.

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Can I ask you a question, so we're

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looking at making these code changes for the Special

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District so that these industrial-type buildings, so

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that they can conform to a code, will they

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We still have to have public hearings.

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Or once they confirm, are we establishing the code so that it's not necessary for them to have a public hearing?

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Under 19A, this is our most current land development code, this is our code component.

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Special district industrial, special district business, that's the standalone district, that's the standalone zoning,

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has to be identified since hiring on your zone.

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So what the process will be for this type of development is a developer will come in

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and will provide a zoning application and a land development plan and plot.

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Both of those applications can be submitted simultaneously as we're going to see that here on this for Jefferson Ortrings.

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And it can be approved in a single public hearing.

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That's the public input on that component.

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Once the boundaries of the property are established,

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then these rules and the rules that they'd have to follow up,

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that gives them a streamlined approach for approval.

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So I guess the reason I was asking,

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I wanted to get kind of the big picture first.

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So if there is the provision for administrative waiver

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after

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it doesn't make this area on the map for special industrial district, but there

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is an administrative waiver that goes outside of what the code is for conforming to this

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special district.

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It seems like there wouldn't be that second, there wouldn't be any type of public input

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So, there is not an abbreviation.

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Let me go through what the general standards are.

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So, no administrative waiver shall be approved unless the city manager or his desk needs

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to find the administrative waiver is consistent with section 1.2 in 10 of this chapter,

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which means it's the end of the zoning code, filling those requirements.

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That the administrative waiver is consistent with the comprehensive plan,

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so you're not going to get a 2,000-foot tower.

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that the Administrative Waiver will not thoroughly, materially endanger the public health, safety, or constitutive public uses,

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if located were proposed and developed according to the plans information submitted and approved.

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The Administrative Waiver will not substantially injure the value of adjoining property or that the use is of public necessity.

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The location, character of the use, gift developed according to the plans and information provided

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will be in harmony with our cement land uses, consistent with the purposes of the district.

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The administrative waiver will advance the presence of the intended form of the development.

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The administrative waiver will advance pedestrian-friendly activity.

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The administrative waiver will provide for the enhancement coordination or demarcation

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between public and private.

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So there's a significant checklist to go through to make sure that they're not bypassing

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and that they're consistent with the comprehensive plan.

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You'll see within here, within this code, I think there are two or three locations

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or would specifically reference the ability to utilize a certain weight.

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So height is one.

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We could revise the height language so that it's a maximum height and not provide the deviation.

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There is a process that we could go through under our code.

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We could just set the height.

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we could go and identify the height and provide the ability

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to the administrative waiver process

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that we're identifying here.

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It gives us some control.

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We could go to the next level and identify additional heights

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of that require a special exemption,

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which would have to go to the DZA public hearing process.

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There could be pieces that would bring it back to the planning committee.

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On these, we're trying to streamline this so that one of the things that Rancing can provide

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that other communities can identify a clear vision, so it can't be more than 200 acres.

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It has to be, you'll see there's certain setbacks.

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There's other requirements to it that with that you set a playing field in a way

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that when they come in immediately, if this particular user only needed 90 acres, not the

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105, and it was on the site where that special district clearly laid out, then they actually

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could go straight to site, not actually, they wouldn't actually go through the other

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area.

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But yeah, I mean staff were completely open to where the comfort level is of this, of

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I guess what I'm thinking is, and maybe there isn't, I think from hearing you explain it,

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it seems like there isn't giving

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a height, or a height limitation, it definitely makes

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sense, I think, in having provision for administrative waivers or something like a stack or, you know,

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they have it filled in right at the height, but now they have to put in tenants or something,

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You know, something that's not, you know,

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coming into a underfoot hall building, you know,

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this is a stack or an antenna or something.

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So on height.

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So the rest of the two or some odd acres are left, because somebody did that, is the other

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Under your current regulations, within that subdivision, you have 130 acres that are being

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identified from SDI.

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There's a potential for up to another 70 within that subdivision that could be standalone SDI.

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The other half of the property under 200 acres would have to be another mix of uses.

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Now, there's the ability for them to do a 40% STI within that.

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But under your current regulations, you're limited to a maximum of 208.

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Everyone's going to come in and talk about residual property.

469
00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:21,560
You get an accident with the purpose of streamlining and not confusing matters.

470
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:29,620
If these guys started a sort of top line to do that, they did working on residual property.

471
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:32,880
What is it, what is it the company grows?

472
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,940
Could anything be beside this property, this property could be a school beside it?

473
00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:41,040
The property owner had to do the heat restriction with the company

474
00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:50,080
for a thousand foot restriction for no hospitals, no schools, absolutely no residential

475
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,100
and any of the property.

476
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:51,800
What?

477
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:18,020
And they just in the past figured out that just not great, residents aren't great neighbors because if something happens where they have to go to the airport and start complaining about the airplane landing over top of them and they just in the past figured out that just not great, residents aren't great neighbors.

478
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Because if something happens where they have a labu or something that didn't look extraordinary,

479
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:30,600
it's called trying from America to start smelling like it's burning down to the town.

480
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,920
Everybody calls. They just call it as the resident.

481
00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:37,120
It's just easier for them not to have residents.

482
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,660
And so the property owners can go to see the private deed restriction with them.

483
00:38:41,660 --> 00:38:48,200
to have no residential and to live in certain schools and hospitals and have a thousand

484
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,940
foot restriction for a couple of years is, but it's

485
00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:57,060
really been a problem in here.

486
00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:58,240
It's

487
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:02,650
like a sudden transition from one extra telephone.

488
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:10,330
Of course, the knowledge that you would use for some of the business can get people

489
00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:11,450
complaining about the smell.

490
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:14,790
It really is the airport, I'm not, I mean,

491
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:19,910
right now some of the tallest landings, I mean, and you're calling because

492
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:23,470
there's airport standing over top of the airplanes that you're going to talk to you.

493
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:25,770
The same thing is going to happen with this company.

494
00:39:27,970 --> 00:39:30,470
And we had a long discussion about that. I mean,

495
00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:35,510
you went down to Charleston at one time, the owner, the company

496
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:38,990
just wanted any industrial restriction all over the property.

497
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:47,190
In the city frankly said, we do not think that's good whatsoever, and the property owners said, I'm not doing that.

498
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:54,490
I would agree to certain uses that, you know, schools, hospitals, hospitals, residents, but I'm not going to need to know.

499
00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:58,650
Our point was, what about the islands, come to a big hospital?

500
00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:00,310
How many are out there?

501
00:40:01,150 --> 00:40:04,090
That would have been restricted under any industrialists no longer.

502
00:40:05,590 --> 00:40:09,890
We also see 150 workers and this factory could be running 24-7.

503
00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:11,890
People need to buy gas.

504
00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:14,310
They can pick up things on the way home from work.

505
00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:17,490
These are the things that are adjacent to this stuff.

506
00:40:17,890 --> 00:40:20,450
We're going to have three years of construction work going out there.

507
00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:23,150
This is a hotel that doesn't immediately go.

508
00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:27,330
I mean, it goes somewhere out there to house these construction workers for the next three years.

509
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:30,130
And then, you know, the suppliers and stuff.

510
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:32,250
You have trucks coming in every day.

511
00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:38,670
So there is a long discussion between the property owner and the company about what does this become if it grows up.

512
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:46,130
And to be honest, we've had a lot of material discussion here of what does the other 207 acres of property grow up.

513
00:40:46,490 --> 00:40:50,930
The property owner is looking to find property to the north, which we'll explain in a site plan,

514
00:40:51,630 --> 00:40:54,870
to extend the bullbar, or the road up to 480.

515
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:57,170
A road will eventually extend to 480.

516
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:59,970
So what does all the other property become?

517
00:41:01,190 --> 00:41:03,030
But we've asked the basically punnets.

518
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:04,630
Just give these.

519
00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:08,150
We cannot, we told them, we cannot meet your schedule.

520
00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:11,670
We get all down on what does the rest of the property become.

521
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:18,940
Right now it becomes T4 and T5,

522
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:24,240
which allows a whole bunch of different office commercial life.

523
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,980
Since you

524
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,160
mentioned the airport phenomena,

525
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Is there anything, like, do they obviously wouldn't be airplane there, but are there any other concerns?

526
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:47,300
And I guess what I'm thinking is would they have requirements for evacuation sirens,

527
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,660
things that could be considered public nuisances that people would be concerned about?

528
00:41:56,660 --> 00:42:04,100
Bill, interesting, under the restatement of the courts, basically the only one they may have held abuses is our residential.

529
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000
One of the reasons why they wanted it is a commercial kingdom.

530
00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:09,380
Now we're getting into this.

531
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:11,440
The courts are asking you any question you want.

532
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:14,880
And you think you should have brought down a preliminary site plan.

533
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:22,020
But one of the things that we were adamant about is the second future is in and out for words and words.

534
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,840
It's really not a good shade.

535
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,040
He goes up to 480 where the whole sheath was, her knees built.

536
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:46,360
We have told them that we want that open for the first to see access for the first responders and stuff.

537
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,140
So there's a secondary access in and out.

538
00:42:49,580 --> 00:42:51,560
So the only access isn't over the bridge.

539
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,600
because over a dull freight railroad and dull land highway.

540
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,280
And waiting for the property owner who will not

541
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,460
issue any more building permits with the decision of 278

542
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:05,500
until they have a secondary interest.

543
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,440
And we're giving them the choice of the 480

544
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:11,220
for over to the root course, gentlemen's road.

545
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:14,580
I think I'll be running a black dog coffee shop.

546
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,120
But it's going to be an emergency response

547
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,480
And frankly, for them, a production nightmare, if something happens on that bridge, it's

548
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,160
the other way in now of the plane.

549
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,420
So we've been very clear about that.

550
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:39,860
The important cycling that's coming in will show that Grant Smith Lane is their emergency

551
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:41,800
in that.

552
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,900
So they're going to pay them as part of their project.

553
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:55,100
Well part of it is not owned by, they're going to have to make it so it's traversable, but you know unfortunately not all of the land is in control all right now.

554
00:43:55,220 --> 00:44:00,880
We don't know, we think it's owned by the part of the landowner and part of it by the state.

555
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,640
We kind of have discussions, it's really, it's got ideas like what, 20 foot private?

556
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,740
It's just the way the apple trucks used to go off the farm.

557
00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:14,720
And

558
00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:23,810
you know, during the Plain Purposes in 2012, it was like, well, maybe that becomes the primary or secondary access.

559
00:44:24,850 --> 00:44:27,650
And so, but in analyzing it, it really makes sense.

560
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:33,150
Now, the road is going in, but the secondary need to go up.

561
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:37,230
480 or over to 480.

562
00:44:38,570 --> 00:44:41,050
But either way, they just have to do it.

563
00:44:41,050 --> 00:44:44,130
They have to do it before we issue building permits.

564
00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:48,790
It's usual because we require new access.

565
00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:49,510
This

566
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,600
is the site plan, the land development planning plan.

567
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,940
We still, there are things that are being worked out on it.

568
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,840
And the engineering program, the site planning, literally sends us new engineering.

569
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,700
Something gets tweaked a little bit almost every day, so.

570
00:45:11,660 --> 00:45:14,140
But it essentially gives you the concept that,

571
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,280
we'll end development flat and flat, which is the blueish, purpley map.

572
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:45,460
If you look at the green one,

573
00:45:47,890 --> 00:45:52,150
there's an enormous amount of water that goes into the facility

574
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:53,910
that's used for cooling that goes up the stack.

575
00:45:54,690 --> 00:45:57,770
They don't have as much sewer going out as water going in.

576
00:45:59,530 --> 00:46:06,430
On the left side of the page, all little broken up buildings, that area is where all their minerals and storage are.

577
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:12,490
All of the water, any water that hits that has the potential of having the mineral sediments.

578
00:46:13,090 --> 00:46:21,170
And there's a large stormwater pond that goes into, they settle it out, recycle the materials, and then push some of the water back.

579
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:21,810
There

580
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:32,970
will be about 80 trucks today, but in and out of the country, so premium long trails and pick up finished product.

581
00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:37,610
If you look at the site from the left to the right, it's a very linear process.

582
00:46:38,250 --> 00:46:41,310
It starts on the very left, that's where they store their minerals.

583
00:46:42,270 --> 00:46:48,050
It goes into the plant, it goes through the process, and then the big buildings to the right,

584
00:46:48,610 --> 00:46:53,130
that's where the finished warehousing product of, that's where the finished warehouse is,

585
00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:55,050
for all of the finished trail doses,

586
00:46:57,580 --> 00:46:59,840
very linear operation.

587
00:47:00,740 --> 00:47:06,410
And the jobs that were down there, the manufacturing plants,

588
00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:08,250
the coffee house behind the computers,

589
00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:10,490
I mean that was the type of manufacturing.

590
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:16,030
Because, you know, some of the changes I'm hearing,

591
00:47:16,510 --> 00:47:18,830
many of the changes, it was the third part of the engineer,

592
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:21,550
the project engineer on this review.

593
00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:26,370
So, for example, stuff that keeps changing are stormwater apartments.

594
00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:31,610
Stormwater apartments are different here than there are in Mississippi and in the Chimney Bay Area.

595
00:47:32,370 --> 00:47:36,570
So, for example, our engineers said, if you need to have a bitus whale,

596
00:47:37,390 --> 00:47:39,750
that's what's in one of the parking lots in the middle of Bay Area.

597
00:47:41,090 --> 00:47:50,100
They have the power of a bitus whale to keep the quality of the water.

598
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:58,280
So this is the type of tweaks and we will keep on getting those tweaks up until the official site plan is middle.

599
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:05,800
They have been submitting preliminary site plans under the Project Shuttle name,

600
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,080
and we've been giving some comments during this period over the last 6 weeks or so.

601
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:14,100
They hired an engineer about 1st.

602
00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:18,460
But yeah, I think they're scheduled to have to have something in there, which is very interesting.

603
00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:25,830
This is just one page of the very large package they turned in.

604
00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:30,590
Yeah, there's a 20-some page site plan package we're providing comments to,

605
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:34,630
and then there's an 80-page or 60-page stormwater plan.

606
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:41,470
We don't have all the components that be required under this, but we wanted to review it

607
00:48:41,470 --> 00:48:44,770
and get our engineers thinking about it as early as possible

608
00:48:44,770 --> 00:48:51,620
because of their stream line. If you look at the purpleish-blueish plan, that's the land

609
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:56,900
development plan on flat. This is just one of the diagrams. You'll see. We'll get this

610
00:48:56,900 --> 00:49:02,020
out to you. There's some tweaks that have to happen. The bridge, as you come across,

611
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:07,660
route nine in the rail tracks is at the bottom. That's that white finger that comes

612
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:13,940
up. That's the existing DOH right-of-way. To the left of that, where they will

613
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:23,820
Apple Orchard. Shop is, that's the acreage area that would be stand-alone SDI. And you

614
00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:35,800
can see on the tables, that's counting about 185 acres of SDI. And then the 50 acres is

615
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:41,480
distributed, kind of, of the T1 is kind of distributed throughout the site. There's

616
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,920
The central spine road that's going to come in, that comes off of that ramp off of Route

617
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,200
9, that has the potential to go all the way up to Pepperstine.

618
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,920
So this is all flat land, then we'll have these two.

619
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:02,480
To the right or to the east of that access road, you'll see that we have the transit

620
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,600
stop that will show up on the site plan, that's at the bottom right, and then

621
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,280
you can see what they've done. They've utilized the Village Meeting Intensity, which allows

622
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:19,580
them to maximize T4 and T5 uses, which are the uses that get them out of a lot of the

623
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:27,000
residential forms. They can do shops, offices, all those pieces. And again, this is conceptual,

624
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:32,480
but they try to utilize as much of the existing information from before the stream

625
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,340
But you can just see what could be laid out there.

626
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,240
I fully expect this to change as we're finding more information on about the utilities.

627
00:50:43,060 --> 00:50:48,640
Some of the green areas are actually ideal utility locations and we'll have service utilities first.

628
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,580
So the other side will be redeveloped.

629
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:57,920
As you go up that spine road where that curved component is,

630
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,380
There's another 40-some acres that they're in the process of trying to acquire.

631
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,520
And again, it's not outside the city, but something that eventually will get planned.

632
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,660
And we've got, you'll see on the zoning, there'll be additional connections that weren't possible before.

633
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Because for the next phase, even if they wanted to do a hotel there, they had to figure out how to get a second access.

634
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:23,600
So it's either going to go across to the black belt coffee shop, or it's going to go north.

635
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:26,720
So there are different ways to do that.

636
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,020
Let's talk about the street a little bit. As far as the passage of the state,

637
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,080
we're on Fort

638
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,320
Avenue from the bridge north.

639
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,440
Their template in industrial access right now is two travel lanes with two four foot travel barns.

640
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:51,100
I'm going to show you this template. We've been in discussions with DOH

641
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:55,240
about essentially two 12th foot, two 11th foot travel lanes,

642
00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:07,400
The state hasn't been seared off by that, and they actually offered us the ability to administer it.

643
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:14,500
But while this project, while this company is, you know, looking at their property loan,

644
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:18,100
we're trying to look at the entire property.

645
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:23,080
And if we're going to spend money, frankly, this becomes a really important spine street

646
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,780
in our neighborhood.

647
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:28,460
So you don't want an industrial access road.

648
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,480
The other thing that we're pushing, which the company, the get-ask-us,

649
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
if we consider on the other side, as they don't want to go the driveway,

650
00:52:35,860 --> 00:52:39,260
around that bike path is right next to this.

651
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,280
And we would like to have the bike path extended on the street

652
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,420
They will eventually connect to 480.

653
00:52:46,940 --> 00:52:51,720
They understand for a long time that they've been trying to push for a bike path down to 480.

654
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,840
This would get you, this would start that process.

655
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:02,520
So now it's not if there's going to be a bike path, it's just what's on the street is the bike path.

656
00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:03,180
There.

657
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:10,790
They were pitched to the left side because we just know there's only going to be two driveways on the left side of the road.

658
00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:12,730
On the right side, there's more conflicts.

659
00:53:13,550 --> 00:53:18,030
They are concerned about a bike path from that side because they don't want their

660
00:53:18,610 --> 00:53:23,050
killer trucks to make a left turn and go like that.

661
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:29,770
Frankly, as long as they're like that, I'm not sure if they're going to like that path.

662
00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:34,290
So that's part of the template that we're meeting with the state of Mississippi now.

663
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:39,670
This project is required to have a sidewalk like any other views you have in the city.

664
00:53:46,330 --> 00:53:52,370
So under your land development regulations, this road would be two travel lanes, determining

665
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:53,990
the width to figure out.

666
00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:56,770
I call the trail a truck trail?

667
00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:57,770
Yes.

668
00:53:58,510 --> 00:53:59,510
But there has to be one.

669
00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:00,810
The what?

670
00:54:01,150 --> 00:54:02,250
But it has to be one.

671
00:54:03,050 --> 00:54:05,750
We're going to have to track the trailers on down that road as well as all the details.

672
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:05,990
Yeah.

673
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:14,930
Yeah, so under your zoning requirements, you have two travel lanes, and it's either going

674
00:54:14,930 --> 00:54:19,190
to be an 11 or 12 foot travel lane or an adequate for the trucks, and it just depends on the

675
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:19,770
design speed.

676
00:54:19,930 --> 00:54:21,270
How fast you want the trucks to go.

677
00:54:22,190 --> 00:54:29,050
All your city comprehensive planning ordinances would push us to the narrow one, but I can

678
00:54:29,050 --> 00:54:30,050
talk about the design.

679
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:33,730
There's some ways we can do to accomplish what we want to do.

680
00:54:33,730 --> 00:54:39,970
And our co-op, our financing system for the state was going to build in the first place.

681
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:46,130
This is what we've asked for, is a wider medium in pedestrian access on the sides.

682
00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:51,330
So we're not asking to reduce the lane any more than what the state was going to build.

683
00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:57,990
They had requested, however, that in the company that there be a couple left turn lanes into the driveway.

684
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:08,730
So the state would build a three-lane roadway, and they'd be really wide lanes, and it'd just

685
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:14,780
be this big strip of asphalt, not dissimilar to Fifth Avenue.

686
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,000
So they'd do five lanes, they'd do three lanes.

687
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,740
So just drop two lanes off of it, and then they'd go find ponds wherever they could

688
00:55:20,740 --> 00:55:21,200
put ponds.

689
00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:26,420
What we're saying is that under the city ordinances, there are actually some good

690
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:27,280
things that help them.

691
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,980
One, the two travel lanes are required.

692
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,900
Everybody agrees there needs to be two travel lanes.

693
00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:35,840
We're actually suggesting to invert the travel lanes

694
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,600
into a center median,

695
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,880
that all the storm water could be kept

696
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,760
within the right of lane.

697
00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:43,060
And we've got examples of really high-tech things,

698
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,080
but we also have highway examples

699
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,960
that are low-tech to accomplish the same component.

700
00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:50,880
That center median gives you the opportunity

701
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,840
to insert certain lanes in the future,

702
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:54,380
build them as you need them.

703
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,400
It also gives you the opportunity

704
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,060
because you've got some more breath on the road on the truck's move.

705
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,820
It gets, it gets, meets the truck requirement, but also gets to the west.

706
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,600
The city requirement also is that they'd be curbing in a planter strip.

707
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,180
So, we're working through what that is, that's a requirement

708
00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:17,220
for the adjacent development to build.

709
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:20,760
You'd like to at least get them locked in on their axle site.

710
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:23,660
If we get them on the other side of the road, great, get them growing.

711
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:27,960
And then the city ordinance would be sidewalks on both sides of the street.

712
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:33,080
Three-quarters of a mile of a sidewalk to two-plane entrances doesn't make a lot of sense.

713
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,200
So we opted for maybe a lesser expensive material, which would be asphalt and would do the bike.

714
00:56:39,380 --> 00:56:41,540
So we're working with the engineers as to which side.

715
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,340
So there will be a new street section that we will present to the Planning Commission as part of the

716
00:56:47,340 --> 00:56:51,720
kind of plaque and part of the site plan that we'll review.

717
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,980
The code allows us to do new street sections,

718
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,360
but it's going to have a combination of trucks,

719
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,720
combination for future grow,

720
00:57:00,380 --> 00:57:01,760
combination for stormwater,

721
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,320
and the combination for bicycle strip disaster.

722
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,220
I'm sure it's on the best of the best

723
00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:11,000
in the design piece, I don't think.

724
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,260
Yeah.

725
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:15,200
I'm sure a complex like this on new use

726
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,760
so they're going to put the fences up.

727
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,280
Yeah, we have sent them that information.

728
00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:29,000
So on this particular facility, they're going to have a fence along parallel to this brand new road and then the entire perimeter of the site.

729
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,180
So they have their entire, once, they have a guardhouse, which is at the northern entrance.

730
00:57:35,340 --> 00:57:38,480
That's a really wide entrance and then they have a keypad at the southern entrance.

731
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,360
So this will be secured.

732
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:48,780
They came in, they said we want, we'll do six foot vital coded and we want our two feet of barbed wire.

733
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,100
See that code doesn't allow that.

734
00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:54,360
We're working with them, we're showing them, we've shown them the other things.

735
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:03,100
They've agreed, at least conceptually agreed to fencing along the front that's not chain link and working on the outer edges.

736
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,780
They're pushing for barbed wire.

737
00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:11,560
they're pushing for chain link, they want it to be HD, all that stuff.

738
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,260
So with this, all this stuff is open, and it's SDI, we might give a waiver for that.

739
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:23,720
No, we've not put that in there. Under your code, under the fencing requirement,

740
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,820
you can provide a waiver for chain link fence along the front of your zone for industrial use.

741
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,180
The maximum height you're permitted is 60. There's no provision for both.

742
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:43,880
So we're working with their design team. I know it's going to come up. I told them that that is a code ordinance change if we need to change that.

743
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:54,720
And they've already been through all those pieces. So their pressure is working on what they need for security-wise.

744
00:58:55,260 --> 00:58:59,740
They're looking at actually at some topsoil. They're looking at burming possibly along that front area.

745
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:03,560
So a six-foot fence would actually be a taller fence because it burned.

746
00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:08,020
We're working. But I expect that to come back at some point.

747
00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:11,040
We've told them no barbed wire and maximum 6B.

748
00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:36,160
It's really important for that road, and that's why we're pushing for not having an industrial

749
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:44,620
access road, they have a real treat. It's really important when that frontage has a nicer

750
00:59:44,620 --> 00:59:48,860
fence, not barbed wire, than where it relates to.

751
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:53,580
But you also have to take into consideration what they're building, what they're producing.

752
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:54,020
No.

753
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,300
I mean, they have it, obviously, if they've already planned for a guard shack and a keyed

754
00:59:59,300 --> 00:59:59,640
the entry.

755
01:00:02,020 --> 01:00:10,740
So why would we not entertain allowing them to do that if they put the taller evergreens in front of it, to hide it?

756
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:17,580
What compromise that we were talking about was for that front and the side, frankly, build

757
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:23,440
our wire and have the security fence, and basically on the west side of the property,

758
01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:25,380
where it's a quarry and vac.

759
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:30,510
What is there to burn?

760
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:32,770
It's a good way of losing some of their soil.

761
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:33,890
But you can do it.

762
01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:34,630
You can do it.

763
01:00:34,810 --> 01:00:35,090
Yeah.

764
01:00:35,470 --> 01:00:37,250
You can do that in some conditions.

765
01:00:37,950 --> 01:00:39,670
It's landscaping on those sites.

766
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:44,510
It's a ground-field site, so they have given the voluntary mediation program, and they've

767
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:48,810
taken all that soil, burning it and capping it in the orchard.

768
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:49,850
So it's a ground-field site.

769
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:53,090
We've not seen a landscape plan.

770
01:00:54,450 --> 01:01:01,730
I would just suggest not cutting them off with what they want to do if they can,

771
01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:06,730
if some kind of electrified fence at the top or whatever,

772
01:01:06,730 --> 01:01:10,750
something to keep people from climbing over the fence but putting some kind of

773
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:14,310
landscaping that covers so that you don't see it.

774
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:19,570
You've got a a

775
01:01:19,570 --> 01:01:21,690
a bazillion dollar company coming in here.

776
01:01:24,050 --> 01:01:26,870
To me that there's ways to work around this.

777
01:01:27,390 --> 01:01:32,370
We agree we have told them that for example federal government is not allowed

778
01:01:32,370 --> 01:01:37,490
to apply anyone. But I'm talking like the the only thing that's coming to mind

779
01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:44,450
is like cow fence, that's what's coming to my mind, I don't know why. But, yeah, something

780
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:51,070
just let them have something to wear, they have something nice, and then extra security

781
01:01:51,070 --> 01:01:51,470
measure.

782
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:55,990
I'm sorry. Whatever.

783
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:56,410
No,

784
01:01:58,940 --> 01:02:02,300
protect the frontage and then on the back and the west side.

785
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,700
Do whatever.

786
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,020
Well, yeah. I mean, obviously there's a reason.

787
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:12,860
But that's important. Or, you know, if you say you don't want to know,

788
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:13,500
we

789
01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:18,530
know that there is no bar bar. That includes...

790
01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:20,130
What does the plant in Mississippi have?

791
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,370
I think the Mississippi is not in jurisdiction.

792
01:02:24,370 --> 01:02:27,710
Well, okay, but that's fine. But is there, I mean, is that why they're trying to push

793
01:02:27,710 --> 01:02:29,210
for the bar bar because they have it down the drain?

794
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:36,770
The demands that you plant in a zero-off state, zero-off state, literally to the entire plant

795
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:37,110
is there.

796
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:37,830
Okay.

797
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:46,610
So, we have provided trash here with offensively. And we opened the door and said, our biggest

798
01:02:46,610 --> 01:02:50,010
concern, we think the biggest concern of the planning commission and the council

799
01:02:50,010 --> 01:02:54,210
So it's going to be what that frontage is, a $150 million plant,

800
01:02:55,450 --> 01:02:57,870
an international thing, what is that streak going to look like?

801
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:59,770
That should be our biggest concern.

802
01:03:00,430 --> 01:03:03,130
And if they have recommendations for revisions of the code,

803
01:03:03,290 --> 01:03:04,670
we bring them back to the planning committee.

804
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:07,550
But it's going to require a coaching.

805
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:12,090
And we have time because we're talking about at least a year

806
01:03:12,090 --> 01:03:14,550
and a half before they're at that point,

807
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:16,070
and they'd be putting things in our system.

808
01:03:16,070 --> 01:03:25,790
So I think that's a very reasonable approach and almost putting the ownership on them, save

809
01:03:25,790 --> 01:03:26,190
a cave.

810
01:03:27,630 --> 01:03:29,190
Here's what we don't want.

811
01:03:29,410 --> 01:03:31,250
Here's what we're trying to accomplish.

812
01:03:33,210 --> 01:03:33,990
Tell us what you think.

813
01:03:34,690 --> 01:03:38,570
What would you want, you know, how could you do this and still accomplish it rather

814
01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:45,210
than us kind of coming up with, you know, I think the firm is a great idea right

815
01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:51,210
now, but, you know, if they walk in with something better than the burn, then that's better for

816
01:03:51,210 --> 01:03:51,410
us.

817
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:54,050
My statement is just be open to whatever they want.

818
01:03:54,430 --> 01:03:54,570
Right.

819
01:03:54,890 --> 01:03:56,710
You know, I mean, yes, it has to have its guidelines.

820
01:03:57,010 --> 01:04:02,030
It has to be within certain state, federal, city regulations.

821
01:04:02,610 --> 01:04:03,770
But just be open.

822
01:04:04,110 --> 01:04:08,290
I mean, they're coming into this very tiny community in the scope of it.

823
01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:11,450
That's awesome.

824
01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:15,370
Right now at Ormless is not having avenue to allow barbed wire.

825
01:04:15,950 --> 01:04:19,950
Well, but if they don't necessarily have to have barbed wire,

826
01:04:20,410 --> 01:04:26,250
but if they feel they need something up there to add a second measure of security,

827
01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:32,670
just be open to what that is and being able to potentially hide it with landscaping.

828
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:36,730
Because I know that there is a plant with something down in front-royal

829
01:04:36,730 --> 01:04:39,750
or going down to front-royal, I don't know.

830
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:45,110
what the name of it is. It sits way back off the road, but it's not too hot. It's another

831
01:04:45,110 --> 01:04:53,910
one that's down there. And they have the security type fence. I don't know if it's barbed wire.

832
01:04:54,070 --> 01:05:00,090
I didn't really look that close, but they have all the tall green evergreens in front

833
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:04,770
of it to hide it. And you can barely see whatever this secure, and it's not barbed

834
01:05:04,770 --> 01:05:10,410
but it's some kind of an electrified, it's an added security measure for that.

835
01:05:11,230 --> 01:05:13,210
So it is, but yeah.

836
01:05:13,830 --> 01:05:22,850
So we're expecting to hear someone's back from, they're going to push and we've used this a lot of time on fencing.

837
01:05:23,950 --> 01:05:27,970
They'll actually have a plan on how to incorporate this with this.

838
01:05:29,550 --> 01:05:35,070
We always want to make sure that the public frontage is because, again, this amount of

839
01:05:35,070 --> 01:05:39,890
investment that the state and the city of Maine have to make, the other side is going

840
01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:40,170
to apply.

841
01:05:41,250 --> 01:05:44,370
And we want to be sure that what comes in next is even better than what we want.

842
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,340
We're going to

843
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:57,000
be very, very compromised with the land.

844
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:04,220
Yeah, I mean I don't know what you guys have written to me. I've said I've been with them when they turned on the barbed wire.

845
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,760
Like I said, we want to protect the cottage. We want to protect and make sure that we consistent.

846
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,780
Whatever you want to do, left side or the back side, we're open to.

847
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,340
And I still believe me.

848
01:06:32,340 --> 01:06:35,540
I just had to voice my opinion on the open.

849
01:06:40,220 --> 01:06:41,380
Well there you go.

850
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:49,780
But that's how we secure it, because somebody can go and load up one of those train cars with explosives and have to go off at Union Station.

851
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:51,680
Don't give these guys the behind the scenes.

852
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,020
No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

853
01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:57,120
These don't need to be that secure.

854
01:06:57,220 --> 01:06:58,980
This particular group is very pragmatic.

855
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:02,620
They hear those things and they, they're mine.

856
01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:05,100
It'll come up in the meeting.

857
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,220
That's just for nobody else.

858
01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:14,140
Going back to the ordinance, I don't have clear direction on the planning commission's

859
01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:14,680
thought on height.

860
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:21,760
We could establish a maximum height and based off of the little sketch that I've got from

861
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:30,000
the plan, 125 feet would, I think, fulfill all their requirements as they're showing

862
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,280
about 115, and I'm sure there's an error somewhere in there.

863
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,580
Can I ask you just real quick, if they have something that's 115 feet, don't they have

864
01:07:39,580 --> 01:07:41,320
to have one of those lights on it or something?

865
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:42,720
Don't have that.

866
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,340
Don't have that.

867
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,820
Yeah, they'll be FAA components.

868
01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:44,940
Okay.

869
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:47,420
This is not the stack.

870
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,960
The stack is going to be considerably higher than this.

871
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,200
The stack meets you 25.

872
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,980
Up to you 25.

873
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:53,620
Okay.

874
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,020
And meet the federal air quality requirement.

875
01:07:55,460 --> 01:08:00,120
Okay, but still, they've got to do something for air travel.

876
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,340
And the air guard were required to insert an air pack.

877
01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:04,020
Exactly.

878
01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:04,620
Well, OK.

879
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:05,620
Oh, so.

880
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:07,280
I see 131 of them, too.

881
01:08:07,820 --> 01:08:08,260
Yeah, right.

882
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:11,780
It'll get some really cool lift over there.

883
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:15,700
That's how it was being displayed here for many times.

884
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,020
We'll go from 25 to 225.

885
01:08:18,860 --> 01:08:19,140
OK.

886
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,100
You won't know, though, that way.

887
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,820
So the stack, though, I'm glad you mentioned that,

888
01:08:24,860 --> 01:08:27,960
because I was thinking that the waiver, the administrative

889
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,220
were covered the whole extent of even the stack.

890
01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:35,640
The stack is exempt from height, bell freeze, spires,

891
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,080
those sorts of things. It's the non-happier one.

892
01:08:40,460 --> 01:08:43,860
Okay. So if they had a, because we had

893
01:08:43,860 --> 01:08:48,040
asked them on the stack, it could be structurally

894
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,020
they have a box all the way around at the post, and on

895
01:08:52,020 --> 01:08:55,960
the factory area they could have told us, they could have been a bunch of pipes

896
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,680
tubes on the top. That may be exempt from the under our site.

897
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:06,200
But when we looked at it, and you can't quite see it all here, but in the little diagram

898
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:11,780
they have on their site plan, here are all these little floors, and in the little section

899
01:09:11,780 --> 01:09:15,780
there's a little office up there, and there are places that people have to get to

900
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:19,960
and part of their daily routine they would be into. So they may not be

901
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,680
conditioned space, but their space counts as a floor. So we've removed floors

902
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:32,540
because in an industrial, like the warehouse space is going to have a 60 foot, 60 feet to the top of the roof.

903
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,440
It'll have a clear space, probably 50 feet, and it may be one foot.

904
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:42,720
In the stack, they're going to have, let's say, 25 floors, but they're all miscellaneous, a little tiny.

905
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:49,820
So in the industrial and manufacturing floors, it doesn't translate well,

906
01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:56,340
as it would for an office park or the office buildings, housing, those sorts of things.

907
01:09:56,900 --> 01:09:59,260
So in this one we've just termed it as height.

908
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:08,160
90 feet is the maximum height that we've shown or has been shown throughout the land development regulation.

909
01:10:09,860 --> 01:10:11,480
So that's where I started it there.

910
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,420
That's where the 90 comes from.

911
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,020
The maximum that we've shown.

912
01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:24,600
I don't see any prohibitions within any of the other language in the codes, set a height limit for the city.

913
01:10:32,540 --> 01:10:38,240
I don't think this room is going to be empty.

914
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:45,180
I think you're going to have people that are against the actual gas line coming in here.

915
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:50,960
and you're going to have people that are very concerned about the environmental error from it.

916
01:10:52,460 --> 01:11:00,140
More openings if there is to discretion, I think there's more opportunity that there is for a challenge.

917
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:05,480
I would like, if we're going to do this, you know what's different between 19 and 100,

918
01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:10,620
when it comes down to it, when a district is only to itself.

919
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:12,980
So we increase that by right.

920
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:14,820
There is no discretion anymore.

921
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:17,600
The second plane comes in to the building permit.

922
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,600
We check the box and we go on with the flight.

923
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,840
Otherwise, they're going to be looking, frankly, at me saying,

924
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,600
discretion, and I don't have the public here saying,

925
01:11:26,380 --> 01:11:27,140
well, what do you choose?

926
01:11:27,820 --> 01:11:29,960
Why should you be the one to decide?

927
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,980
And frankly, I'm only to take that position.

928
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:33,740
Why?

929
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:34,620
We're here.

930
01:11:34,940 --> 01:11:37,160
We're going to customize this whole STI thing.

931
01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:38,640
They need 120.

932
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:46,520
220. It shows a good faith compromise, frankly. If we have to go up to them and say, you know what, we don't like the fence, it sucks.

933
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:54,600
So we compromise here, so you don't have to go through a discretionary waiver process, but work with us on another topic.

934
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,240
That's just fine.

935
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,420
So I'll be back.

936
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,540
You can come back very few days.

937
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,580
Okay, so hi. I can establish maximum height of 125 feet.

938
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,820
There are going to be two places in the code. I'll show you the next place we'll put that.

939
01:12:05,820 --> 01:12:12,040
And then on the comfort level, would you keep the option for deviations about that?

940
01:12:13,340 --> 01:12:14,820
Completely from the text.

941
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:17,980
It's 125.

942
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:20,680
It's 115.

943
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:26,700
Yeah, it's, they've provided a diagram which says 114.83 feet.

944
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,340
I'm not quite sure where they've taken the dimension from.

945
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:41,260
I hate for the architect to come in and say that it's 115 feet, but we had to do a three-foot

946
01:12:41,260 --> 01:12:41,720
parapet.

947
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:47,000
Well, we looked at the mitigation, and then finally suggested them, you know what, we

948
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,460
did this, try to keep it at whatever.

949
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,500
Well, it was 125, so we didn't have to go through this.

950
01:12:53,660 --> 01:12:54,020
It's crazy.

951
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,840
We just think the more stuff that's done in our right opens us up to less.

952
01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:05,880
So I really don't think that, I don't think this is a bad view.

953
01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:10,060
I don't think it's going to be raised in residence that are here.

954
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:14,320
I think it's going to be, this room is not going to be empty anymore.

955
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,380
I agree with you.

956
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:25,980
It's just that any time someone says a deviation or an administrative deviation,

957
01:13:25,980 --> 01:13:33,360
the perception is that we made some sort of concession to them when we don't really have them.

958
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:37,900
Two extensions already opened up.

959
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,280
Now, just, I mean, it's just literally Thursday and this came out, I can tell you, but it's a church,

960
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,820
we've gone forth or whatever, what's the environment like that?

961
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:47,780
What are they made of?

962
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,680
What are they produced?

963
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,380
How high are they going to be?

964
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:51,960
Is there going to be black smoke coming out?

965
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,750
I mean, is there going to be just

966
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,760
increasing of a rate?

967
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:03,600
Okay.

968
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:16,240
Another issue that they have identified, which makes perfect sense, is lighting. So, under 19a, we have lighting requirements.

969
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:22,860
They really focus more towards streetscapes and small blocks. It makes sense that you'd have the streetlights you see here.

970
01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:32,320
But on this type of facility, there are OSHA requirements and security requirements. That trucking area, that large parking lot, are semi-trucks that are going to be coming in 24-7.

971
01:14:32,860 --> 01:14:34,060
They need to have lighting.

972
01:14:34,940 --> 01:14:38,500
Under your general code requirements, your previous code requirements,

973
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:44,280
there's actually a height requirement and some light style requirements that exist.

974
01:14:45,060 --> 01:14:46,220
I pulled that code forward.

975
01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:48,000
So it's actually in here.

976
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:51,080
So if it's a standalone district, you can have a lighting.

977
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,120
We added a simple phrase.

978
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,320
It says the lighting style, standard Chevy consistent with the architecture style of the principal building.

979
01:14:58,260 --> 01:14:59,920
The industrial building is going to be industrial.

980
01:15:01,490 --> 01:15:06,410
The maximum height of on-site freestanding lights shall not exceed 40 feet.

981
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:11,050
So this is what is identified in our current codes.

982
01:15:11,650 --> 01:15:13,850
But is that the standard for parking lots?

983
01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:21,090
When you see a mall, those big lights in a mall, that's 40 feet.

984
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:28,530
Probably the light post probably at Wyase and at Martins and those things are probably at 30 to 40 feet.

985
01:15:28,530 --> 01:15:35,930
With the LED lights down, they're not as tall, which is less than true to the men outside

986
01:15:35,930 --> 01:15:36,610
of the site.

987
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:38,430
It's not actually required.

988
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:43,150
You can probably live with a 14-foot fan of the LED.

989
01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:45,730
Here's a more light.

990
01:15:47,230 --> 01:15:47,350
Great.

991
01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:51,610
I mean, I just wanted to make sure that's because it says, shall not exceed 40 feet.

992
01:15:51,790 --> 01:15:56,790
So I just wanted to make sure that that would be where I'm mistaking.

993
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:22,020
And we also put in here, because this is the new other portion of the code, all outdoor

994
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:27,020
lighting shall be downward directed and shielded as to prevent other parcels from being directly

995
01:16:27,020 --> 01:16:27,420
eliminated.

996
01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:35,180
And again, the more up-to-date lighting standards, if you can see it from somewhere else and it's

997
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:39,180
washing over the property, you're paying for something you're not paying for, so we're

998
01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:39,780
seeing that.

999
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:44,040
Are they going to wash the buildings at night with lights at the counter?

1000
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:45,900
We don't know.

1001
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,240
Some of these places do have them.

1002
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,320
We don't know.

1003
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,400
because they have not gotten that far along.

1004
01:16:55,580 --> 01:16:56,060
We don't know.

1005
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,480
We also...

1006
01:17:04,060 --> 01:17:07,520
But we've also identified here that

1007
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,740
where outdoor lighting is provided, the maximum incidental

1008
01:17:11,740 --> 01:17:16,380
light spillage onto adjacent non-SDI parcels

1009
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:23,140
It shall be .2 foot candles as measured at 8 feet above average grade at the property line receiving parcel.

1010
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,040
So this is more descriptive than what we currently have anywhere in our code.

1011
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,940
But they're going to do a study and show where all the light passes.

1012
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:40,420
And if you had a .2 foot candle at the edge of the property, it wouldn't be enough light for the light to decide it.

1013
01:17:41,420 --> 01:17:43,660
And that's what that show.

1014
01:17:43,660 --> 01:17:47,460
And you can see there, on these plans, there are several hundred feet.

1015
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,960
The Garn House, the entry, is 119 feet from the street.

1016
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,420
And the parking lots are being opened.

1017
01:17:57,380 --> 01:17:59,160
But that's a pretty good distance.

1018
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:04,680
So I'm in the city putting lights along the road.

1019
01:18:05,620 --> 01:18:06,640
That's a discussion.

1020
01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:09,880
It is a requirement of our code to have lighting on the street.

1021
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:15,600
But again, it's a matter of the state's allocated a certain amount of money.

1022
01:18:15,820 --> 01:18:18,720
We're trying to maximize every aspect of it.

1023
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,820
There's some of the frontage requirements, some of the plans requirements.

1024
01:18:23,060 --> 01:18:27,230
Some of it would be on the other side of the fence.

1025
01:18:31,210 --> 01:18:32,670
We're going to develop everybody on the road.

1026
01:18:32,890 --> 01:18:34,370
We've got the state highway department.

1027
01:18:35,170 --> 01:18:36,790
And now we're trying to thread the needle.

1028
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:39,250
Let's say we don't want your crappy tent on the road.

1029
01:18:39,910 --> 01:18:40,990
What's something different?

1030
01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:42,810
Like Fifth Avenue,

1031
01:18:45,170 --> 01:18:45,790
Prince of runway.

1032
01:18:46,770 --> 01:18:53,810
We're trying to right-size it. Again, if we can get the clear space for our truck to get in,

1033
01:18:54,250 --> 01:18:59,970
and we could do it on an 11.5 foot or 12 foot length, at 6 inches or it's actually a foot of asphalt

1034
01:18:59,970 --> 01:19:07,070
for both lanes, a three-quarters of a mile, that's a significant cost. So, we have an advantage

1035
01:19:07,070 --> 01:19:14,090
of infiltrating. We've got our nose under the tank, and we're trying to make sure that

1036
01:19:14,090 --> 01:19:19,390
money spent where it makes the most sense and filled out. I would expect on this that

1037
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:23,810
lighting is definitely going to be requested at sections.

1038
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,500
And it would make sense. I mean,

1039
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:33,600
you've been around the city. It makes sense with these 24-hour traffic. And they're not

1040
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,340
at least, I can't understand where I was talking about.

1041
01:19:38,590 --> 01:19:45,310
Yeah, that was a question. It was a task nothing to do with the code that we're looking

1042
01:19:45,310 --> 01:19:53,330
The state's done a preliminary traffic study. There are some turn lane improvements that

1043
01:19:53,330 --> 01:19:55,490
they're going to do as part of this project.

1044
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,920
I guess this type of work, or that shift work?

1045
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:10,200
Yes, the shift work, and then they've got approximately 80 trucks a day of material coming in.

1046
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:16,790
But shift, so there would be traffic down?

1047
01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:21,530
They potentially have three shifts for the site.

1048
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:29,800
So, right now, there's the one way out, and there's the emergency access of a grantee smith.

1049
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:35,880
I told the developer, and everybody's clear that before additional development occurs here,

1050
01:20:36,020 --> 01:20:36,800
it's secondary access.

1051
01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:38,880
I see what you're talking about, sorry.

1052
01:20:40,740 --> 01:20:41,780
But we've identified it.

1053
01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:44,060
It's some distance.

1054
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,940
The state did a preliminary.

1055
01:20:51,460 --> 01:20:55,120
I don't have the report here, but they did a preliminary about what they thought the term was.

1056
01:20:56,340 --> 01:21:05,840
Well, their projecting is the shift change out of the plan, down to the street, out to about nine and all the way.

1057
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,740
But you won't know, around two, there's always a problem.

1058
01:21:11,220 --> 01:21:14,760
Are they going to go out to the old route nine and the new route nine?

1059
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,920
Old route nine and then they have to go down to the planned exit.

1060
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:38,420
under building use. So, this will come through the

1061
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:45,020
site plan process. Under 19A, under your

1062
01:21:45,020 --> 01:21:53,360
use list, there are conditional uses. It's not clear how you get to the conditional use.

1063
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:58,380
like heavy industrial and SDI is it conditionally permitted but you have to go through a conditionally

1064
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:02,540
used process. So we reference back to the 5.7.

1065
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:07,370
A conditionally used shall be administered

1066
01:22:07,370 --> 01:22:12,330
by the Solidarity Review Committee. Adverse ruralage shall be appealed to the ZA.

1067
01:22:13,170 --> 01:22:16,130
Conditionally used shall be granted as the following conditions are met.

1068
01:22:16,750 --> 01:22:19,270
These will not materially endanger the public health safety.

1069
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:22,650
A constitutive nuisance is located where proposed and developed according to the

1070
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:27,090
plans, information submitted and approved, use without substantial injury of the value

1071
01:22:27,090 --> 01:22:31,730
of joining properties, the location and character of development according to the plans, and

1072
01:22:31,730 --> 01:22:35,370
information approved will be in harmony with the approximate plan uses and consistent with

1073
01:22:35,370 --> 01:22:39,730
the purposes of the district, and use compliance with the specific requirements set forth in

1074
01:22:39,730 --> 01:22:42,950
municipal awarding, in a special exception.

1075
01:22:44,290 --> 01:22:50,910
One of the things that we do not have in this provision that we found is that

1076
01:22:50,910 --> 01:22:58,790
under the chart for allowable uses under 19a, for STI, things like heavy industrial,

1077
01:22:59,110 --> 01:23:03,230
which this is, is a conditional use, none of it might be

1078
01:23:07,870 --> 01:23:08,370
as strange.

1079
01:23:08,530 --> 01:23:09,450
I don't understand that.

1080
01:23:10,410 --> 01:23:13,490
We didn't have that as part of this public hearing at section of code.

1081
01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:18,810
So we put in the reference back to what the process is.

1082
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:22,990
On the parking standards,

1083
01:23:26,820 --> 01:23:28,640
we've identified for parking standards,

1084
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:35,040
and this is for all of the S.D. Districts. All parking, including open parking areas,

1085
01:23:35,140 --> 01:23:39,600
covered parking area, garages, low-inducing areas, shall be matched from the front end

1086
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:45,440
by street screen or landscape buffer. So we took out some convoluted language in here.

1087
01:23:46,340 --> 01:23:48,360
It's essentially telling you to do a landscape buffer.

1088
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:53,830
Parking shall be internally accessed

1089
01:23:53,830 --> 01:24:00,110
by private driveways such as railways, rear lanes, such are available. I think

1090
01:24:00,110 --> 01:24:09,910
On this one, they had a draft where I think we want to add the text here in reference to internal drives.

1091
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,500
So again, for these types of uses, we're focusing on parking.

1092
01:24:20,820 --> 01:24:26,120
Parking should be internally accessed. So we're not having multiple driveway cuts.

1093
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,180
It's focused on the driveways or it's coming off of alleyways.

1094
01:24:29,180 --> 01:24:30,680
for special

1095
01:24:33,340 --> 01:24:35,800
districts that are outside a community unit type.

1096
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:37,860
That's this particular type.

1097
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,900
Open parking areas may be allowed unmasked on the frontage

1098
01:24:41,900 --> 01:24:45,360
if perimeter landscaping and screening is provided

1099
01:24:45,940 --> 01:24:49,840
or through an administrative waiver as described in section 1.5.

1100
01:24:51,220 --> 01:24:54,860
So on a plant like this where they have a lot of frontage along the front line

1101
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:56,840
and a lot of things that are going to happen there,

1102
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,360
the encouragement is to provide perimeter landscaping.

1103
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:11,700
The primary landscaping requirement is one tree every 70 feet plus bushes and ground cover up to 50% on a 10-foot stretch.

1104
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,060
If they have that, they don't have to specifically put things around the parking area.

1105
01:25:18,440 --> 01:25:20,840
On the outside edge, we're done.

1106
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:29,400
A similar requirement. This is similar to the language that was utilized for rockwell storage.

1107
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,060
And you could see they actually used more trees than it was required back then.

1108
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:40,040
That's the necessary need. It's going to be a big tree, but it is landscape.

1109
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:46,670
We did not touch the landscape standards. That's consistent.

1110
01:25:46,890 --> 01:25:50,950
So this talks about the buffer, how that gets built.

1111
01:25:53,610 --> 01:25:57,430
Under special districts, there's no provision for signage.

1112
01:25:58,490 --> 01:26:02,030
We reviewed the signage code, and we made the following recommendation.

1113
01:26:02,030 --> 01:26:05,330
that all these businesses should be allowed to address signage.

1114
01:26:05,710 --> 01:26:07,150
This is all out of 19A.

1115
01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:10,690
If they have awnings, they can put awning signage on their awnings.

1116
01:26:11,570 --> 01:26:15,810
If they have a band sign, which is above the first floor of a building,

1117
01:26:16,150 --> 01:26:17,330
this is the band.

1118
01:26:18,450 --> 01:26:19,170
They can put a sign.

1119
01:26:20,410 --> 01:26:23,010
We also identify that they can put a monument sign,

1120
01:26:23,290 --> 01:26:24,890
and we're identifying per entrance.

1121
01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:30,090
So for this particular site, this allows more flexibility to them.

1122
01:26:30,710 --> 01:26:35,050
Normally, they'd be allowed one monument sign, but these types of plants generally would

1123
01:26:35,050 --> 01:26:36,050
have one entrance.

1124
01:26:36,330 --> 01:26:39,450
It tells people where to go, go enter, drop off.

1125
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,820
They could do name plate sign, which would be on the building.

1126
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:51,380
We also are adding, because there is no sign that under 19A that can go above the first floor

1127
01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:52,740
on a building, a large building.

1128
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,020
So we've identified a wall sign.

1129
01:26:55,780 --> 01:26:57,880
A wall sign would be like what you see at home too soon.

1130
01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:02,640
That allows, for this size of the building, it's a fairly large size.

1131
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,040
They have the capability of putting it on the size of the building.

1132
01:27:05,580 --> 01:27:12,260
And they can distribute that on multiple signs, but we know that signing is just going to be something they want.

1133
01:27:22,140 --> 01:27:31,020
We have this under our requirements, the building itself and the property itself will all be this.

1134
01:27:35,690 --> 01:27:43,730
It's in the future, it's possible that this becomes a business industrial plan and there's

1135
01:27:43,730 --> 01:27:49,130
directional signage that would occur, there's intersection off-site, but we have provisions

1136
01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:50,810
in the code for those types of signs.

1137
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,220
Table 22, special business district standards does not change.

1138
01:27:59,690 --> 01:28:06,290
23A, SDI standards, these are for the standards within an urban area, these did not change.

1139
01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:09,370
So, if you look at the front setbacks, they have maximum front setbacks.

1140
01:28:11,980 --> 01:28:13,480
23B STI standards.

1141
01:28:13,700 --> 01:28:14,440
These are all new.

1142
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:22,180
So, we took the A standards and we essentially modified it so that all the front setbacks

1143
01:28:22,180 --> 01:28:25,620
and rear setbacks, it's a bit of building to the street.

1144
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:27,260
We're requiring them to push back.

1145
01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:30,660
So, we have 30-foot minimums on all of these.

1146
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,860
This particular site plan is over 100 feet from the property line to any of the structure.

1147
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,680
But it would allow them to put a guard house up close to the property line.

1148
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,180
If they wanted to put stuff close to the property line, they could, but generally, they're going to be sent.

1149
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:51,380
We've knocked out all of the abilities for encroachments and awnings and all of that.

1150
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,880
It doesn't exist for this use.

1151
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:01,240
On the principal buildings, we've knocked out storeys because again, those pieces.

1152
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:13,340
is we will adjust the eave to parapet to 125 feet or through waiver. We consistent with

1153
01:29:13,340 --> 01:29:16,720
the changes that we just did on the actual text.

1154
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:21,060
Plot width is a standalone district

1155
01:29:21,060 --> 01:29:29,280
so that's not applicable. Plot coverage is building under our code. It's not parking

1156
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:36,740
areas, it's not store-mortar areas, it's not utility areas. These are buildings. So it's 60% max.

1157
01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:44,100
They've provided us a lot of information because we wanted to make sure we could test all of this.

1158
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,080
On this particular site for phase one, 79% of the site is going to be.

1159
01:29:53,180 --> 01:29:55,680
They have 10% of the site's asphalt.

1160
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,740
Buildings are 7%. They have some concreants.

1161
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,120
Unpaid areas, all of them, about 4%.

1162
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:08,440
They gave us a preliminary sketch of what these two possibly could look like on the site.

1163
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,600
And again, they're well under 60% for a building cover.

1164
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,940
So when you look at the buildings, right now they're at 7%.

1165
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,800
So they could triple the size of the building, still be well.

1166
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,660
They can have a lot of asphalt.

1167
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,160
It's just a roof destruction.

1168
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:29,840
So that's what that shows.

1169
01:30:31,340 --> 01:30:35,800
And the parking and trash and storage and all those are permitted in all the layers.

1170
01:30:36,440 --> 01:30:39,320
This is an urban environment we would not require.

1171
01:30:39,580 --> 01:30:41,480
We would restrict it in front areas.

1172
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,780
But in this particular condition, you remember we have some buffering requirements that exist.

1173
01:30:47,580 --> 01:30:47,940
It's okay.

1174
01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:53,680
We're grading the edge, securing the edge, and then Nick can do whatever they decide to do.

1175
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,500
Any

1176
01:31:02,630 --> 01:31:05,630
other questions or comments from the planning commission?

1177
01:31:06,270 --> 01:31:06,990
We'll

1178
01:31:10,250 --> 01:31:18,830
close the public hearing and entertain a motion to recommend the Code Amendment to City Council for the Ranson Municipal Code.

1179
01:31:19,310 --> 01:31:28,870
Chapter 19A, Smart Code, Article 3.9, Special Districts, Article 6.1, Special Districts SDB and SDI,

1180
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:33,430
I and Article 6, Tables 22 and 23 of the rest of the list.

1181
01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:36,970
There's much more in the second.

1182
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:38,430
All in favor, say aye.

1183
01:31:38,690 --> 01:31:38,990
Aye.

1184
01:31:39,450 --> 01:31:39,990
Any opposed?

1185
01:31:41,570 --> 01:31:43,730
Thank you very much for the discussion.

1186
01:31:45,070 --> 01:31:46,450
Thank you very much, commissioners.

1187
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:50,110
If you have any questions about any of the stuff coming through,

1188
01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:51,150
then we're going to move quickly.

1189
01:31:52,250 --> 01:31:53,770
Email me, follow me.

1190
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:56,270
We can set up time to go through.

1191
01:31:56,910 --> 01:32:01,310
There's a lot of information coming forward with this and we're happy to get you up to

1192
01:32:01,310 --> 01:32:02,250
the end of all of this.

1193
01:32:04,740 --> 01:32:06,220
Thank you very much.

1194
01:32:07,740 --> 01:32:08,440
Thank you.

1195
01:32:09,140 --> 01:32:16,040
One more item on our agenda, the emergency utilities water booster station.

1196
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:23,520
So, as you heard, utility companies are going to have to do some improvements to support this.

1197
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:32,520
and JUI has submitted for a site plan rather to show that they're going to be putting a booster station over at Brown Center.

1198
01:32:33,060 --> 01:32:39,460
It's the site where Chick-fil-A is, more or less, but the area that's not built to right south of Chick-fil-A.

1199
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,340
There are some technical items that still need to be resolved.

1200
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:50,060
Those items include a copy of the easement agreement between JUI and the owner, ISTAR.

1201
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:54,620
We are also waiting for a survey to demonstrate the location of the booster.

1202
01:32:55,060 --> 01:33:00,020
Now, I included a map where more or less it shows you the location where it's going,

1203
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,340
but they're completing a survey by a surveyor, so we'll have that soon.

1204
01:33:06,500 --> 01:33:09,180
We're also requesting for the booster to have an address,

1205
01:33:09,420 --> 01:33:13,440
so they're also working through those avenues now to make sure that it's addressed.

1206
01:33:14,980 --> 01:33:19,880
With that being said, I'd like for you to take a look at the survey that they have included,

1207
01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:27,400
The booster station is actually going to be surrounded.

1208
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,920
It's going to be a building structure, so it's going to look like a small house.

1209
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:39,580
We're also going to be adding some landscaping because the location of it is going to be really close to Route 9.

1210
01:33:40,220 --> 01:33:44,180
So we've asked them to soften the edges by landscaping.

1211
01:33:53,840 --> 01:34:01,540
So, this is coming to you because the parcel on the zoning requires the planning commission

1212
01:34:01,540 --> 01:34:04,400
make the decision whether or not to public hearing for this.

1213
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:11,440
This is in an established subdivision utility project, so that's the first to make sure

1214
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:14,120
that it's happening, not to public hearing.

1215
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:18,560
I mean, if this was under 19A, they had rezoned the spark code,

1216
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,100
be able to run this through as a site plan.

1217
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:29,750
If there's any questions of this, I mean, we've provided them a sketch

1218
01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:32,230
about what this little building could look like.

1219
01:34:32,670 --> 01:34:34,970
They liked it and they're going to build its normal house

1220
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:36,290
on this other road.

1221
01:34:37,090 --> 01:34:39,570
And the booster station what this will do,

1222
01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:43,010
it will actually provide additional pressure

1223
01:34:43,010 --> 01:34:46,730
to not only this commercial subdivision, but for X crossing.

1224
01:34:47,690 --> 01:34:51,130
The pipe work, you've probably seen them coming down, milled,

1225
01:34:51,230 --> 01:34:53,730
filter it, and we'll cross through, and it's all part of this.

1226
01:34:54,850 --> 01:34:56,770
Okay, so what do we have to do with the person?

1227
01:34:59,870 --> 01:35:00,270
I mean,

1228
01:35:05,820 --> 01:35:06,140
no.

1229
01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:13,010
Okay, any questions or comments from the commission?

1230
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,640
Is there a motion to approve the site plan for the juxtaposition utility

1231
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,980
water booster station?

1232
01:35:21,740 --> 01:35:22,520
There's a motion.

1233
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,060
Is there a second? Second?

1234
01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:27,900
There is a aye. Aye.

1235
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,040
Any opposed? Okay.

1236
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:32,680
Thanks very much.

1237
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:40,680
It's like four announcements for the next Planning Commission meeting is tentatively scheduled for Monday, August 7.

1238
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,420
Any other announcements?

1239
01:35:42,900 --> 01:35:47,640
I'll add that. I added a timeline to the handouts that I gave you today.

1240
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:48,460
Okay.

1241
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:55,560
Next planning commission, we're going to have also a public hearing, and that's going to be for the rezoning and the land development and the cloud.

1242
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:05,520
We've also received a request from Dayline Poles for a draft development agreement from Byron Rod.

1243
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:13,020
They have a draft development agreement at any time they can come in with provisions of that.

1244
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:19,880
It could be at the next planning commission, it could be later on, so you're aware that's out there.

1245
01:36:20,260 --> 01:36:24,270
So the next meeting will show up in the pack-out launch, huh?

1246
01:36:24,910 --> 01:36:25,150
All right.

1247
01:36:25,730 --> 01:36:26,510
Give me a pack-out dinner.

1248
01:36:27,570 --> 01:36:28,970
Well, we'll send that out.

1249
01:36:29,150 --> 01:36:30,910
I will try to get the...

1250
01:36:31,470 --> 01:36:37,770
We have gone through and we've provided staff comments on the land development plan and the zoning application.

1251
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:49,240
It's part of the 3 or 4 documents we've identified that it was in the draft agreement, but we'll

1252
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:49,520
see.

1253
01:36:51,060 --> 01:36:51,620
Be prepared.

1254
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:53,700
We'll see how that comes out.

1255
01:36:53,700 --> 01:36:55,240
Spring pizza to the next one, okay?

1256
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,420
We'll bring it.

1257
01:36:56,500 --> 01:36:57,000
We'll bring it.

1258
01:36:57,300 --> 01:37:00,400
We'll be sure we get the land development plan and plan and zoning application

1259
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,940
out for Jefferson Orchards.

1260
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,040
Out to everybody ahead of time if you have questions.

1261
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,100
Please do that.

1262
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:12,360
I'll help, I think, at the meeting, and we'll prepare you all if there's an audience here.

1263
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:17,860
Thank you. I just want to make sure we have a structure with these guys.

1264
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:23,080
I just want to make sure that these guys are good at making something that's for a long time around.

1265
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:30,220
So let's make sure that we're flexible. We don't have a multi-billion-dollar company run over.

1266
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:32,340
It's like a Korean eater.

1267
01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:35,480
So that's a point that's, there's some balance.

1268
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,560
The stuff we can get if we've been basically

1269
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,760
running the seventh month process, there's some stuff we can get

1270
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,520
and there's some stuff that we, you know,

1271
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,180
they spend $600,000 on a site selector.

1272
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:52,440
We're talking about spending 10% of that on something

1273
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:56,000
that's going to affect our community for the next 100 years.

1274
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:56,740
All right.

1275
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:02,260
Anything else?

1276
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,520
If not, is there a motion to adjourn?

1277
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:07,120
Okay.

1278
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,400
Okay, a second.

1279
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,020
All in favor?

1280
01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:13,600
Aye.

1281
01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:14,760
Those.

1282
01:38:17,020 --> 01:38:18,220
Mike, are you hurt?

1283
01:38:18,620 --> 01:38:19,220
Mike, are you hurt?