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yeah that'd be
great good afternoon welcome to the

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legal and finance committee meeting uh
for December 31

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2024 um we'll begin with roll call and
determination of

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Quorum here
here here

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here okay next can we have a motion to
adopt the agenda move second a motion by

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Evans and a second by rosand to adopt
the agenda all in favor all opposed

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motion carries this is the time for
general public comment that's a time for

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members of the public to discuss or
Express concerns to the Council on any

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issue not on the agenda action will not
be taken at the meeting on any issue not

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on the agenda except by placement on the
agenda by unanimous vote of the council

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members present I don't see any speaker
request forms or anyone in public

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comment so I'm going to close general
public comment then we'll move to

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consent items 1-
16 and uh ask if any members of the

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committee want to pull any items from uh
1 through

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16 Bill Evans number 11

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um any

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others can I get a motion on 1 through
16 except for 11

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approve motion to approve by rosand and
second by Maher all in favor I all

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opposed motion carries next we go to
councilman uh Bill Evans on

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uh be is how this kind of took us by
surprise and Frank L we haven't had any

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discussion amongst ourselves about this
I would move that we just table this

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item until such time as we actually have
had a chance to think about what we want

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to direct the attorney to

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do a motion to
table a

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second we go to Josh
Bor am I still in yeah I think that

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we're just right now we're just
directing the City attorney to prepare a

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resolution of elect officials we're not
voting on what it is so I think it's

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prudent to move forward with it and from
there we can have the discussion instead

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of delaying it so I I would move to
approve number

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11 how can they possibly prepare
something when we haven't actually told

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them what we need to to prepare I know a
couple people have talked to them about

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it but there is virtually no consensus
that this needs to

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happen so you know just because we table
it doesn't mean we can't come up with

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another resolution that's more
appropriate in the future but to just

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delay this along like we do so many
other things for instance our uh

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approval of some of these uh you
know marijuana permits um I I think this

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is a mistake to go keep on starting
things you really can't finish so I'm

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going to suggest again you reconsider
seconding my motion because I think it's

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the best way to end this and then we can
have discussion discussion and come up

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with an appropriate resolution for us to
vote on in the

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future um try to be efficient here
rather than waste everybody's time I

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I'll second it from the
chair second my motion or his motion the

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motion to
table so so I guess we're g I had a

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motion after

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to well I just
did and so I made my motion top I don't

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care we do my
motion I'm I mean well you can refer to

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Robert's Rules but I think I make the
decision on that as the chair and so the

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motion is to table and then we'll have a
vote on that and if it doesn't pass then

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we'll go to your
motion so the motion on the floor is to

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table number 11 all in favor I all
opposed

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I okay motion fails uh vote of two to
three

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next we'll go back to biberdorf for his

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motion we go to go to Kevin Maher yeah
with respect to number 11 um if you go

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into the detail you can see the dollar
amounts proposed I I think we need to

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have a discussion about that um and I
maybe when we could meet with Amber and

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talk about that a little bit for a
recommendation rather than just ask the

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City attorney to to use the figures that
were in this

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detail okay then Pat
Rosland I agree with Kevin I just feel

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like that we need discussion on it
rather than tabling it or rather than

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pushing along I think we just should
discuss about more with the our console

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or our legal team and then go from
there I have more to

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say okay so um I guess the first thing
before you speak are you going to second

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the motion or you okay we don't have a
second on this Mo go ahead bill go to

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Bill

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Evans well if you're reading this
particular resolution it's directing

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them to approve uh to recommend salary
increases for the Mayors whose salary

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went up from $80,000 to what is $120,000
just last year uh it also recommends um

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certain figures that we're going to have
to do and air all this linen publicly

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rather than do it behind the scenes and
come up with an appropriate resolution

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to vote on that won't require hours of
uh arguing here in front of the people

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um I don't think anybody on this Council
really wants to

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approve that which is specified in this
resolution because I believe the mayor's

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salary was increased significantly just
a year ago and uh I don't know why you'd

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vote for something like that it doesn't
make any sense just a waste of time

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thank

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you cool okay I'm still waiting for a
second on the motion on number

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11 and hearing none I'm going to declare
the motion failed

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that brings us to the end of the consent
calendar um any other Alderman

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items look for motion to
adjourn motion by Bor and second by

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Rosen all in
favor I motion carries we're adjourned

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happy New Year you Ted it

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anyhow um I've got a I've got

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a got a thing for