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[1:13] yeah that'd be
great good afternoon welcome to the
[1:18] legal and finance committee meeting uh
for December 31
[1:22] 2024 um we'll begin with roll call and
determination of
[1:26] Quorum here
here here
[1:33] here okay next can we have a motion to
adopt the agenda move second a motion by
[1:39] Evans and a second by rosand to adopt
the agenda all in favor all opposed
[1:44] motion carries this is the time for
general public comment that's a time for
[1:48] members of the public to discuss or
Express concerns to the Council on any
[1:52] issue not on the agenda action will not
be taken at the meeting on any issue not
[1:56] on the agenda except by placement on the
agenda by unanimous vote of the council
[2:00] members present I don't see any speaker
request forms or anyone in public
[2:05] comment so I'm going to close general
public comment then we'll move to
[2:08] consent items 1-
16 and uh ask if any members of the
[2:15] committee want to pull any items from uh
1 through
[2:24] 16 Bill Evans number 11
[2:31] um any
[2:35] others can I get a motion on 1 through
16 except for 11
[2:40] approve motion to approve by rosand and
second by Maher all in favor I all
[2:46] opposed motion carries next we go to
councilman uh Bill Evans on
[2:55] uh be is how this kind of took us by
surprise and Frank L we haven't had any
[3:00] discussion amongst ourselves about this
I would move that we just table this
[3:06] item until such time as we actually have
had a chance to think about what we want
[3:11] to direct the attorney to
[3:16] do a motion to
table a
[3:25] second we go to Josh
Bor am I still in yeah I think that
[3:31] we're just right now we're just
directing the City attorney to prepare a
[3:33] resolution of elect officials we're not
voting on what it is so I think it's
[3:37] prudent to move forward with it and from
there we can have the discussion instead
[3:40] of delaying it so I I would move to
approve number
[3:43] 11 how can they possibly prepare
something when we haven't actually told
[3:47] them what we need to to prepare I know a
couple people have talked to them about
[3:52] it but there is virtually no consensus
that this needs to
[3:56] happen so you know just because we table
it doesn't mean we can't come up with
[4:00] another resolution that's more
appropriate in the future but to just
[4:04] delay this along like we do so many
other things for instance our uh
[4:09] approval of some of these uh you
know marijuana permits um I I think this
[4:17] is a mistake to go keep on starting
things you really can't finish so I'm
[4:22] going to suggest again you reconsider
seconding my motion because I think it's
[4:27] the best way to end this and then we can
have discussion discussion and come up
[4:31] with an appropriate resolution for us to
vote on in the
[4:34] future um try to be efficient here
rather than waste everybody's time I
[4:41] I'll second it from the
chair second my motion or his motion the
[4:46] motion to
table so so I guess we're g I had a
[4:51] motion after
[4:54] to well I just
did and so I made my motion top I don't
[4:59] care we do my
motion I'm I mean well you can refer to
[5:05] Robert's Rules but I think I make the
decision on that as the chair and so the
[5:10] motion is to table and then we'll have a
vote on that and if it doesn't pass then
[5:14] we'll go to your
motion so the motion on the floor is to
[5:18] table number 11 all in favor I all
opposed
[5:23] I okay motion fails uh vote of two to
three
[5:30] next we'll go back to biberdorf for his
[5:47] motion we go to go to Kevin Maher yeah
with respect to number 11 um if you go
[5:55] into the detail you can see the dollar
amounts proposed I I think we need to
[5:59] have a discussion about that um and I
maybe when we could meet with Amber and
[6:05] talk about that a little bit for a
recommendation rather than just ask the
[6:10] City attorney to to use the figures that
were in this
[6:18] detail okay then Pat
Rosland I agree with Kevin I just feel
[6:23] like that we need discussion on it
rather than tabling it or rather than
[6:27] pushing along I think we just should
discuss about more with the our console
[6:32] or our legal team and then go from
there I have more to
[6:39] say okay so um I guess the first thing
before you speak are you going to second
[6:45] the motion or you okay we don't have a
second on this Mo go ahead bill go to
[6:50] Bill
[6:52] Evans well if you're reading this
particular resolution it's directing
[6:57] them to approve uh to recommend salary
increases for the Mayors whose salary
[7:02] went up from $80,000 to what is $120,000
just last year uh it also recommends um
[7:11] certain figures that we're going to have
to do and air all this linen publicly
[7:16] rather than do it behind the scenes and
come up with an appropriate resolution
[7:19] to vote on that won't require hours of
uh arguing here in front of the people
[7:26] um I don't think anybody on this Council
really wants to
[7:30] approve that which is specified in this
resolution because I believe the mayor's
[7:36] salary was increased significantly just
a year ago and uh I don't know why you'd
[7:41] vote for something like that it doesn't
make any sense just a waste of time
[7:45] thank
[7:47] you cool okay I'm still waiting for a
second on the motion on number
[7:53] 11 and hearing none I'm going to declare
the motion failed
[8:01] that brings us to the end of the consent
calendar um any other Alderman
[8:05] items look for motion to
adjourn motion by Bor and second by
[8:11] Rosen all in
favor I motion carries we're adjourned
[8:16] happy New Year you Ted it
[8:27] anyhow um I've got a I've got
[8:34] a got a thing for