1 00:00:00,151 --> 00:00:04,980 Okay, good evening. I want to welcome you to our Ladies and Township Committee of 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:11,010 September 8th. We just came out of our executive session, and what I'd like to do 3 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:14,760 is report on that. But first, I'd like a salute to the flag. 4 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:15,840 So if you could stand, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,750 please. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,675 I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic 7 00:00:24,675 --> 00:00:30,195 for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 8 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:31,350 justice for all. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,661 Thank you. All right. Thank you. I'm Yuri Wozwisz. 10 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:43,680 I'm your township mayor, your open space advisory chair. 11 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:49,305 My fellow committee members are here. I'm going to ask Vinny, Mr. 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,530 Panico, just a report on our exec, of course. 13 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:57,420 Sure. So we covered a number of items. I want to say it was nine. 14 00:00:57,450 --> 00:01:00,495 We'll go through one at a time. There'll be some motions on some of them, but not 15 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:03,450 all. The first matter was personnel police. 16 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:10,230 These are more matters of just for normal things. 17 00:01:10,245 --> 00:01:15,060 So Greg Wester has completed his probationary period as police sergeant, which 18 00:01:15,090 --> 00:01:17,100 means that he becomes a permanent police sergeant. 19 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:22,051 So I'm going to make a motion to approve the resolution appointing Greg Wester as a 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,980 permanent police sergeant. 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,461 Second. 22 00:01:24,301 --> 00:01:25,185 Okay. Roll call, please. 23 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:28,321 Mr. Abney? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Muller? 24 00:01:28,336 --> 00:01:28,336 Aye. 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,370 Mr. Panico? 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:29,670 Yes. 27 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:30,390 Mayor Wozwisz. 28 00:01:30,450 --> 00:01:30,720 Aye. 29 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:36,510 The second item we discussed under this heading was the fact that one of our Class 30 00:01:36,601 --> 00:01:41,400 III officers, these are the officers that are in the schools, had taken a position 31 00:01:41,415 --> 00:01:45,855 with a different township. So we are backfilling that officer. 32 00:01:45,930 --> 00:01:50,160 So I will make a motion to approve the resolution appointing Lawrence Goldstein as 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Special Law Enforcement Officer Class III. 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,740 Second. 35 00:01:53,730 --> 00:01:54,420 Roll call, please. 36 00:01:54,660 --> 00:01:57,720 Mr. Abney? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Muller? 37 00:01:58,110 --> 00:01:58,125 Aye. 38 00:01:58,125 --> 00:01:58,711 Mr. Panico? 39 00:01:58,771 --> 00:01:59,010 Yes. 40 00:01:59,220 --> 00:01:59,896 Mayor Wozwisz. 41 00:01:59,896 --> 00:02:00,150 Aye. 42 00:02:01,711 --> 00:02:06,705 In the second section, which was personnel administration, we discussed the 43 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:10,440 candidates that were coming in for one of our vacancies here, and we looked at how 44 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:16,470 that fits into the operations of the township, but there's no action 45 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:21,960 items for that heading. The third option or the third heading is contract 46 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:26,460 negotiations, dental insurance. This actually shows up later in the agenda. 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,740 I believe it's I-two. That is the introduction of an ordinance establishing some 48 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:36,060 dental insurance regulations now that we're self-insured. 49 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:37,770 So that was a simple discussion. 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,700 Number four is contract negotiations, building demo. 51 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:47,130 We have some public space here in town that has some dilapidated buildings on it. 52 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:51,210 It's off Old Highway 28 on the north side up there. 53 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:54,120 So we discussed the quotes that we received for that and the funding. 54 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,851 There's no action to take on that yet. It'll be at a future meeting. 55 00:02:58,141 --> 00:03:00,930 Number five is contract negotiations, professional services. 56 00:03:01,290 --> 00:03:05,070 Believe it or not, this took up a lion's share of our discussions. 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,530 We review at a high level the professionals that we have here in the township. 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,351 So everybody from the attorney and the engineer down to the dog catcher and 59 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:20,010 different consultants that we have throughout as we prepare for what we're going to 60 00:03:20,041 --> 00:03:23,130 do in 2027. Are we going to go to RFP for them? Are we not? 61 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:26,010 And how is that all going to come together? 62 00:03:26,101 --> 00:03:30,195 So it was a really high-level discussion, and we're going to have another follow-up 63 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:34,351 at the next meeting as well. Number six is litigation police. 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,031 Obviously, this is a matter of litigation. 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,990 I was hoping it was going to be wrapped up by now, but it hasn't. So that stays in. 66 00:03:40,230 --> 00:03:42,000 Number seven is attorney-client privilege. 67 00:03:42,031 --> 00:03:46,590 The executive session minutes August 3rd, 2026, and August 17th, 2026. 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,490 This is just the approval of the minutes for previous executive sessions. 69 00:03:50,610 --> 00:03:52,650 So I will make a motion to approve for content only. 70 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:53,640 Second. 71 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:54,660 Roll call, please. 72 00:03:54,900 --> 00:04:00,720 Mr. Abney? Yes. Mr. Haller? I need to abstain on August 3rd. Yes for August 17th. 73 00:04:01,770 --> 00:04:02,340 Mr. Muller? 74 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:02,970 Aye. 75 00:04:03,031 --> 00:04:03,630 Mr. Panico? 76 00:04:03,690 --> 00:04:03,900 Yes. 77 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:04,800 Mayor Wozwisz. 78 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:06,060 Aye. 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,585 The number eight was potential litigation, affordable housing. 80 00:04:09,585 --> 00:04:14,160 There was no discussion that happened on that topic. That is all, sir. 81 00:04:14,281 --> 00:04:18,330 Okay. Thank you very much. That's the report on the executive session. 82 00:04:18,481 --> 00:04:23,490 Next is E on the agenda, which is comments from the public for items listed on the 83 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:24,390 agenda only. 84 00:04:25,591 --> 00:04:30,720 We'll also have separate comments for ordinances that follow later in the session. 85 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:31,320 So 86 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:35,970 and what we'll do, because we have a lot of people, there may be comments at 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,400 various points. We'll probably just ask you to speak for three minutes or less as 88 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:42,570 we go through various topics. 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:44,250 Okay? 90 00:04:45,750 --> 00:04:47,910 If you'd like to speak, you just need to come up. 91 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:53,160 If this is regarding I-one. No, never mind. Sorry. You can go ahead. 92 00:04:53,341 --> 00:04:55,140 H-one is where we have a special talk. 93 00:04:55,201 --> 00:04:55,620 Come on 94 00:04:59,190 --> 00:04:59,250 up. 95 00:05:05,220 --> 00:05:09,180 Hi, my name is Anne Rettino. I'm with the local chapter of the Daughters of the 96 00:05:09,210 --> 00:05:10,230 American Revolution, 97 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:16,635 and we own the Revolutionary War-era cemetery that's right over at the corner of 98 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:18,720 523 and Route 22. 99 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:25,440 I'm speaking on behalf of my chapter, and we just wanted to say that 100 00:05:27,091 --> 00:05:33,060 we are looking for the best interest for our cemetery on a historic level. 101 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,781 We are not a political organization. 102 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:42,630 We are a genealogical, historical organization, and that's where our interests lie 103 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:48,466 is with preserving history. And so whatever helps that cemetery 104 00:05:48,630 --> 00:05:50,970 stay nice and have a good long 105 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,485 future that looks good and is serving the community, 106 00:05:56,701 --> 00:06:01,350 however that is best served based on the affordable housing that's considered going 107 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:06,300 in next to it. We would just like to say that we hope everybody thinks about that 108 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:11,100 when that comes to a vote, because that's what we do. 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,290 So thank you. 110 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:14,640 Thank you, Anne. 111 00:06:15,841 --> 00:06:16,201 Okay. 112 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:31,561 Hello, my name is Liz Retell. 113 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:37,920 Wilmington faces unprecedented development pressure due to the state-mandated 114 00:06:37,936 --> 00:06:40,440 affordable housing requirements. 115 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:45,315 Special interests and developers are positioning themselves to capitalize on our 116 00:06:45,390 --> 00:06:50,190 community, threatening the rural character that generations have worked so hard to 117 00:06:50,220 --> 00:06:50,820 protect. 118 00:06:52,470 --> 00:06:56,940 In order to preserve our quality of life, we need to manage responsible growth 119 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,581 while respecting local zoning, planning, and maintaining our ethical standard. 120 00:07:03,811 --> 00:07:09,451 The wrong approach is pursuing huge mega-developments like a Propheta 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,910 development, which are inclusionary and only have a small percentage of units 122 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:19,710 as affordable housing, while the majority of the units are market rate. 123 00:07:21,451 --> 00:07:26,550 Paul Propheta is a wealthy developer, and he is funding the politicians and 124 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:30,120 political candidates who support the proposed project. 125 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:36,975 The wrong approach is if the township committee votes to allow only massive 126 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:42,930 inclusionary developments into affordable housing plan to reach our state mandate. 127 00:07:43,815 --> 00:07:48,960 It is obviously the wrong approach for the township as it would have long-term 128 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,660 negative impact on emergency services, taxes, schools, 129 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:56,940 roads, and infrastructure. 130 00:07:58,530 --> 00:08:03,510 For the proposed Propheta project alone, the township would allow at least 131 00:08:03,811 --> 00:08:09,331 1,400 units on rich farmland spanning 370 acres. 132 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:15,915 This rich farmland is located in planning area four with no sewer and is not zoned 133 00:08:15,930 --> 00:08:19,410 by the state or locally for such a massive development. 134 00:08:20,190 --> 00:08:24,930 The right approach is pursuing small-scale, 100% affordable developments. 135 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,390 100% affordable means all the units within the development are affordable units, 136 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:35,070 meaning the total number of units is kept relatively low. 137 00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:40,440 Using this approach, the total number of units would be less than half 138 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:45,090 compared to the inclusionary approach while satisfying our affordable housing 139 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,760 mandate from the state. A real-time example of this responsible development is a 140 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:55,980 proposed small-scale, 100% affordable development at 101 Main Street. 141 00:08:56,790 --> 00:09:01,440 This development is intended to include special needs residents, which means the 142 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:03,660 township receives double the number of credits. 143 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:10,464 We would receive 40 credits By building only 20 units, whereas a 144 00:09:10,524 --> 00:09:16,284 large inclusionary development would require 200 units to be built to reach 40 145 00:09:16,314 --> 00:09:21,624 credits. The township is using a responsible approach to maximize our credits, 146 00:09:22,014 --> 00:09:26,244 build housing for special needs, veterans, and seniors, all while building the 147 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:29,694 lowest number of units possible to reach our state mandate. 148 00:09:30,264 --> 00:09:35,109 I support small-scale, fiscally responsible development, not large inclusionary 149 00:09:35,154 --> 00:09:40,254 developments built by developers like Propeta and from the politicians that support 150 00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:45,295 their projects. Redington can reach the affordable housing requirements with a 151 00:09:45,325 --> 00:09:50,394 fraction of the total number of units, all while being fiscally responsible. 152 00:09:51,174 --> 00:09:51,564 Thank you. 153 00:10:06,594 --> 00:10:07,734 I'm Julia Allen. 154 00:10:10,825 --> 00:10:15,774 Our common goal is to minimize the impact of the township's affordable housing 155 00:10:15,804 --> 00:10:21,564 mandate. The state gives us options we could use that would help us achieve 156 00:10:21,624 --> 00:10:22,314 that goal. 157 00:10:23,545 --> 00:10:26,784 Our obligation is 504 credits. 158 00:10:28,974 --> 00:10:34,943 25% of this number can be met by a plan that qualifies for allowable 159 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:36,174 bonus credits. 160 00:10:38,364 --> 00:10:44,184 By hoping to create 100% affordable projects, we get one bonus credit for each 161 00:10:44,244 --> 00:10:45,654 affordable unit built. 162 00:10:47,304 --> 00:10:53,034 In Three Bridges, the 80-unit townhouse under construction gave Redington 80 163 00:10:53,094 --> 00:10:58,944 bonus credits, for a total of 160 credits for the project. 164 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:06,429 A 60-unit senior building on an existing senior site on Greenwood Road would 165 00:11:06,504 --> 00:11:12,205 qualify for 60 bonus for a total of 120 166 00:11:12,219 --> 00:11:12,700 credits. 167 00:11:14,034 --> 00:11:19,629 With group homes, special needs housing is advisable because each bedroom in a 168 00:11:19,674 --> 00:11:23,784 home is a unit adding a bonus credit. 169 00:11:23,874 --> 00:11:29,364 A single veterans group home could add as much as 20 credits with the allowable 170 00:11:29,394 --> 00:11:30,144 bonuses. 171 00:11:32,034 --> 00:11:37,524 In addition, there's a strategy referred to as extension of controls. 172 00:11:38,244 --> 00:11:43,314 This possibility exists because affordable housing units in both Lake Pushtunt 173 00:11:43,374 --> 00:11:48,639 Woods and at Hunter's Crossing in Three Bridges have affordable deed 174 00:11:48,684 --> 00:11:52,584 restrictions dating back 30 years, which are now expiring. 175 00:11:53,394 --> 00:11:58,734 The township has an option to use housing trust fund money to extend these controls 176 00:11:58,795 --> 00:12:01,539 for an additional 30 years. No new 177 00:12:01,825 --> 00:12:06,594 housing would be required. 178 00:12:09,174 --> 00:12:14,634 What we should not be doing is inclusionary development, 179 00:12:15,534 --> 00:12:20,979 and putting that in our plan, unless we are specifically ordered for a specific 180 00:12:21,053 --> 00:12:22,223 project by the court. 181 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:27,714 With the inclusionary development, developers are allowed to build huge 182 00:12:27,744 --> 00:12:30,684 high-density developments with a ratio of five to one. 183 00:12:31,795 --> 00:12:37,224 With over 100 new homes built, the yield is three affordability units created. 184 00:12:38,334 --> 00:12:43,119 Meeting our affordable housing this way for a 500 unit, 440 unit 185 00:12:43,674 --> 00:12:47,738 obligation leads to huge developments that change the very character of our 186 00:12:47,784 --> 00:12:52,854 township and drive up our taxes with increased need for services. Thank you. 187 00:13:03,594 --> 00:13:05,724 Good evening, everybody. My name is Michael DeSocio. 188 00:13:05,874 --> 00:13:08,335 I am the owner of 24 Washington Drive. 189 00:13:08,394 --> 00:13:11,724 I'm here to talk on behalf of the 101 Main Street proposed project. 190 00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:16,554 A couple of things I do want to put out for public record and I'd like addressed at 191 00:13:16,585 --> 00:13:18,325 this evening's meeting for the record. 192 00:13:20,004 --> 00:13:22,224 Number one is the impact to neighboring homes. 193 00:13:23,424 --> 00:13:28,404 By putting in a 20-plus unit facility on Main Street, what is that going to do to 194 00:13:28,434 --> 00:13:31,029 neighboring homes? All those homes run on well water. 195 00:13:32,154 --> 00:13:37,164 That property borders a flood zone on my property, so how will that, the less 196 00:13:37,195 --> 00:13:39,804 permeable land, impact my property at the end of the day? 197 00:13:41,214 --> 00:13:42,984 All things the town hasn't considered. 198 00:13:43,494 --> 00:13:47,364 That property is a flood zone A, and that borders 101 Main Street. 199 00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:48,984 I'm not sure if the township has known that. 200 00:13:50,634 --> 00:13:54,474 A couple of other portions I'd like clarified for the record at some point this 201 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:58,644 evening is clarifications on mappings have been posted to public forums by public 202 00:13:58,704 --> 00:13:59,364 officials here. 203 00:14:01,585 --> 00:14:01,884 I have- 204 00:14:02,724 --> 00:14:04,674 I missed. I was trying to understand what you said. 205 00:14:04,734 --> 00:14:07,674 Yeah. Clarifications on mappings posted by public officials. 206 00:14:07,765 --> 00:14:09,564 Oh, mappings. All right. Sorry. I was- 207 00:14:09,924 --> 00:14:10,134 So, 208 00:14:11,515 --> 00:14:16,524 with this proposed project, number one, it's going to put a greater impact and toll 209 00:14:16,585 --> 00:14:22,284 on Washington Drive as a whole. So, any plans to either, one, update that road or 210 00:14:22,374 --> 00:14:24,114 bring any other kinds of services to that. 211 00:14:24,894 --> 00:14:30,399 Number two is that based on these mappings, it looks like the proposed project does 212 00:14:30,414 --> 00:14:31,585 want to cut across 213 00:14:32,964 --> 00:14:36,085 my property on 24 Washington Drive, between mine and the DAR. 214 00:14:37,015 --> 00:14:40,585 These mappings have been put out by officials in a public forum, 215 00:14:42,054 --> 00:14:46,914 and I'd like clarification at tonight's meeting about plans for lower Main Street 216 00:14:47,454 --> 00:14:51,519 and official mappings of where this will be done, how it will be done, how it's 217 00:14:51,534 --> 00:14:54,144 going to comply with not just township ordinance. 218 00:14:54,804 --> 00:14:56,604 I know there's going to have to be rezoning done. 219 00:14:57,534 --> 00:15:00,624 There's been a lot of discussion around that property over the last year or two 220 00:15:00,684 --> 00:15:01,704 that has been shot down. 221 00:15:04,045 --> 00:15:06,354 And other impacts throughout the township. 222 00:15:07,914 --> 00:15:09,744 If those mappings are incorrect, 223 00:15:11,214 --> 00:15:16,884 I'd like to put on the record that there are issues from a DNO perspective from the 224 00:15:16,914 --> 00:15:21,354 board here by posting incorrect items from a miles perspective and willful 225 00:15:21,384 --> 00:15:21,954 misconduct. 226 00:15:24,804 --> 00:15:27,234 I'll leave it at that, and I hope to hear more by the end of the meeting. 227 00:15:27,414 --> 00:15:31,674 Your property is not included in the acquisition of 101 Main Street. 228 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:35,424 You are property block 24, lot two, correct? 229 00:15:35,634 --> 00:15:35,964 Correct. 230 00:15:36,414 --> 00:15:41,784 That is not on the agenda for tonight, or do I believe it's even being ever 231 00:15:41,844 --> 00:15:42,384 considered. 232 00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:46,585 I'm addressing the mappings that have been posted actually by you, Mr. Mayor. 233 00:15:46,765 --> 00:15:47,214 That's correct. 234 00:15:48,534 --> 00:15:53,994 And it's based off of the available NJMap.com, which are not entirely accurate. 235 00:15:55,644 --> 00:15:57,325 I can show you that after everything's left. 236 00:15:57,504 --> 00:15:57,609 Yeah. 237 00:15:57,654 --> 00:15:58,869 I can show you exactly where that came from. 238 00:15:58,869 --> 00:16:01,164 So, your property was included on that map? 239 00:16:01,494 --> 00:16:01,854 Yes. 240 00:16:03,684 --> 00:16:03,759 Okay. 241 00:16:03,788 --> 00:16:06,054 And I actually have real attorney fees to show for this. 242 00:16:06,295 --> 00:16:06,474 Wow. 243 00:16:07,195 --> 00:16:09,534 Yeah. So, yes it will be. 244 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:10,524 Yeah. 245 00:16:10,538 --> 00:16:13,554 So, I'm going to leave it at that. Hope to hear more. Thank you. 246 00:16:20,034 --> 00:16:24,399 Okay, no more comments for now. We'll move on. Next is F, payment of bills. 247 00:16:24,474 --> 00:16:28,344 We have the September 8th payment of bills. Do I have a motion? 248 00:16:28,674 --> 00:16:30,954 So, I'll make a motion to pay the bills. 249 00:16:31,884 --> 00:16:32,274 Second. 250 00:16:32,754 --> 00:16:34,284 Okay. Roll call, please. 251 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:35,214 Mr. Abney? 252 00:16:35,874 --> 00:16:36,085 Yes. 253 00:16:36,234 --> 00:16:36,835 Mr. Heller? 254 00:16:37,045 --> 00:16:37,284 Yes. 255 00:16:37,434 --> 00:16:38,004 Mr. Muller? 256 00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:38,515 Aye. 257 00:16:38,545 --> 00:16:39,204 Mr. Panico? 258 00:16:39,265 --> 00:16:39,489 Yes. 259 00:16:39,714 --> 00:16:40,554 Mayor Hucklebush. 260 00:16:40,854 --> 00:16:46,464 Aye. Okay, next on the agenda is H, consent agenda, and all 261 00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:50,754 items listed with an asterisk are considered to be routine by the township 262 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:53,724 committee and will be enacted by one motion. 263 00:16:54,295 --> 00:16:57,984 No separate discussion of these items unless a committee member or a citizen 264 00:16:58,045 --> 00:16:58,614 requests, 265 00:17:00,984 --> 00:17:04,194 in which event the item will be removed from the general order of business and 266 00:17:04,254 --> 00:17:06,924 considered in its normal sequence on the agenda. 267 00:17:07,045 --> 00:17:12,744 So, there are a total of 12, I believe, routine matters, but let me ask the 268 00:17:12,894 --> 00:17:14,964 township committee, does anyone want to hold an item? 269 00:17:18,174 --> 00:17:22,104 Okay, does anyone in the public want to hold an item on the consent agenda? 270 00:17:24,864 --> 00:17:26,754 Okay, do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? 271 00:17:26,814 --> 00:17:28,254 I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. 272 00:17:28,285 --> 00:17:29,544 Second. 273 00:17:29,664 --> 00:17:30,504 Roll call, please. 274 00:17:30,894 --> 00:17:31,614 Mr. Abney? 275 00:17:31,765 --> 00:17:31,914 Yes. 276 00:17:32,124 --> 00:17:32,725 Mr. Heller? 277 00:17:33,354 --> 00:17:35,064 Yes, but I abstain from item one. 278 00:17:36,054 --> 00:17:37,765 Okay, thank you. Mr. Muller? 279 00:17:37,914 --> 00:17:38,244 Aye. 280 00:17:38,304 --> 00:17:39,054 Mr. Panico? 281 00:17:39,114 --> 00:17:39,384 Yes. 282 00:17:39,475 --> 00:17:40,239 Mayor Hucklebush. 283 00:17:40,374 --> 00:17:45,534 Aye. And the majority of these were things like veteran tax refunds, requests for 284 00:17:45,594 --> 00:17:50,664 refunds of unused soil witness fees, so relatively routine items. 285 00:17:51,744 --> 00:17:55,614 Next, we go into H. We have one item. We have a public hearing. 286 00:17:56,184 --> 00:17:56,664 So, let me 287 00:17:58,015 --> 00:17:58,704 begin that. 288 00:18:03,294 --> 00:18:06,864 So first, do I have a motion to close the regular meeting and open the public 289 00:18:06,894 --> 00:18:07,225 hearing? 290 00:18:07,344 --> 00:18:07,854 So moved. 291 00:18:07,914 --> 00:18:08,304 Second? 292 00:18:08,604 --> 00:18:08,844 Second. 293 00:18:09,024 --> 00:18:09,654 All in favor? 294 00:18:09,924 --> 00:18:10,524 Aye. 295 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Aye. 296 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Aye. 297 00:18:10,614 --> 00:18:16,225 Okay. Let me read it. This is an ordinance amending a portion of Chapter 96, 298 00:18:16,314 --> 00:18:21,038 Section 6, Construction Records Clearance Required, CRC, of the Code of the 299 00:18:21,084 --> 00:18:24,504 Township of Redington, County of Hartman, State of New Jersey. 300 00:18:27,744 --> 00:18:29,394 This is relatively 301 00:18:31,911 --> 00:18:32,437 Routine. 302 00:18:32,616 --> 00:18:33,036 Yeah. 303 00:18:33,216 --> 00:18:34,056 Jim, do you want to just- 304 00:18:34,356 --> 00:18:36,876 The amendments to the existing ordinance, 305 00:18:38,947 --> 00:18:43,521 the intent is to cure unabated violations when houses are being sold, and there's 306 00:18:43,536 --> 00:18:49,416 also two fee increases. One fee increases from $70 to $75, and another increases 307 00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:52,086 from $40 to $100. 308 00:18:53,376 --> 00:18:58,011 And those fees are based on how far out the requests are made from the time of the 309 00:18:58,026 --> 00:18:58,776 sale. 310 00:19:00,726 --> 00:19:03,621 Okay. And what was the first part you were saying, Doug? 311 00:19:03,636 --> 00:19:04,866 The unabated violations. 312 00:19:05,316 --> 00:19:05,556 Correct. 313 00:19:05,691 --> 00:19:08,706 And so open fines that haven't been satisfied. 314 00:19:10,596 --> 00:19:11,166 Thank you. 315 00:19:12,621 --> 00:19:13,896 Okay. Any questions? 316 00:19:14,046 --> 00:19:14,586 You ask. 317 00:19:15,636 --> 00:19:16,806 Yeah, but it got it the second time. 318 00:19:16,986 --> 00:19:19,476 I was going to ask what the remedy within, right? 319 00:19:19,806 --> 00:19:23,796 Because it's new, and we talked about this at the last meeting, a lot of different 320 00:19:23,856 --> 00:19:28,086 audience here. What is the remedy, especially because we weren't a full board in 321 00:19:28,116 --> 00:19:32,796 that last one. What's the remedy for the unabated penalties? 322 00:19:34,687 --> 00:19:37,086 The remedy would be to cure the violation, pay the violation. 323 00:19:37,116 --> 00:19:39,606 Okay, so we're now requiring them to be paid. 324 00:19:39,996 --> 00:19:40,356 Correct. 325 00:19:40,566 --> 00:19:41,810 Thank you. Say that one more time. 326 00:19:42,096 --> 00:19:44,016 I used the word cure, and I should've used the word pay. 327 00:19:44,076 --> 00:19:45,546 Okay. Just wanted to make sure we had that- 328 00:19:45,591 --> 00:19:46,687 Settle the tab. 329 00:19:46,806 --> 00:19:51,187 Yeah, exactly. Okay. Any comments from the public on this item? 330 00:19:52,986 --> 00:19:55,776 Okay, do I have a motion to close public hearing and open the regular meeting? 331 00:19:55,926 --> 00:19:56,601 Do I have a second? 332 00:19:56,601 --> 00:19:56,826 Second. 333 00:19:57,276 --> 00:19:58,026 All in favor? 334 00:19:58,116 --> 00:19:58,956 Aye. 335 00:19:59,016 --> 00:20:00,786 All right, do I have a motion to adopt this ordinance? 336 00:20:01,326 --> 00:20:02,676 I'll make a motion to adopt the ordinance. 337 00:20:02,736 --> 00:20:05,046 Do I have a second? Thank you. Roll call, please. 338 00:20:05,466 --> 00:20:06,187 Mr. Almy? 339 00:20:06,306 --> 00:20:06,516 Yes. 340 00:20:06,756 --> 00:20:07,416 Mr. Heller? 341 00:20:07,596 --> 00:20:07,895 Yes. 342 00:20:07,956 --> 00:20:08,586 Mr. Muller? 343 00:20:08,645 --> 00:20:08,947 Aye. 344 00:20:09,006 --> 00:20:09,876 Mr. Panico? 345 00:20:09,937 --> 00:20:10,191 Yes. 346 00:20:10,326 --> 00:20:11,106 Mayor Hesselbud? 347 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:11,556 Aye. 348 00:20:13,056 --> 00:20:17,526 Okay, on the agenda we're now at I, Introduction of Ordinances, and there are two. 349 00:20:17,631 --> 00:20:21,756 I'll read the first one. "An ordinance of the Reddington Township Committee 350 00:20:21,966 --> 00:20:27,951 authorizing the acquisition of land identified as Block 24, Blocks 10 and 13, known 351 00:20:28,026 --> 00:20:33,322 as 101 Main Street, Reddington Township, Hunterdon County, State of New Jersey, for 352 00:20:33,366 --> 00:20:38,526 the purchase price of $305,000 to be paid, in part, from the Township's Affordable 353 00:20:38,556 --> 00:20:44,286 Housing Trust Fund." And this is ordinance number 21-2026. 354 00:20:48,036 --> 00:20:49,476 I have some comments on this one. 355 00:20:52,687 --> 00:20:57,216 I prepared something for this. "Turning 101 Main Street into an affordable housing 356 00:20:57,246 --> 00:21:00,937 development would be an indefensible misuse of one of Reddington's most 357 00:21:00,966 --> 00:21:04,296 historically significant and publicly visible properties. 358 00:21:04,656 --> 00:21:07,026 This is not an ordinary development site. 359 00:21:07,056 --> 00:21:11,106 It sits at the gateway to White House Station, immediately beside a cemetery that 360 00:21:11,136 --> 00:21:14,961 preserves a direct connection to our nation's founding and to the history of the 361 00:21:14,976 --> 00:21:19,206 White House itself. The cemetery is located in the White House section of our 362 00:21:19,266 --> 00:21:24,996 township, a community named for the White House Tavern, owned by Abraham Van 363 00:21:25,056 --> 00:21:30,846 Horn. Van Horn served in the Revolutionary War, and he is one of at 364 00:21:30,876 --> 00:21:36,187 least nine Revolutionary War veterans buried in the cemetery, and the Daughters of 365 00:21:36,216 --> 00:21:40,356 the American Revolution plaque at his gravesite records that he was, quote, 'host 366 00:21:40,416 --> 00:21:45,171 to General Washington at the old White House.'" George Washington visited that 367 00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:48,366 building or that current property out there. 368 00:21:48,381 --> 00:21:52,146 "This is not simply a neighboring burial ground. 369 00:21:52,206 --> 00:21:56,646 It's a historical landscape tied to Revolutionary War veterans, General Washington, 370 00:21:57,066 --> 00:21:58,776 and the origins of White House Station. 371 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:03,846 The township should protect that setting, not expose it to a 100% affordable 372 00:22:03,937 --> 00:22:08,136 housing development. Once this gateway property is redeveloped in a manner 373 00:22:08,556 --> 00:22:12,816 incompatible with its surroundings, the damage to its historic setting cannot be 374 00:22:12,846 --> 00:22:18,096 undone. Reddington will be sacrificing a defining piece of community identity and 375 00:22:18,126 --> 00:22:23,062 diminishing the dignity of a cemetery containing the graves of men who served in 376 00:22:23,106 --> 00:22:28,176 the Revolution. 101 Main Street deserves preservation and a use that respects its 377 00:22:28,236 --> 00:22:33,546 unique historic context. It should not be treated as just another parcel available 378 00:22:33,697 --> 00:22:38,197 for affordable housing." I will be rejecting this resolution. 379 00:22:38,556 --> 00:22:43,791 Did your research indicate how long that building's 380 00:22:44,046 --> 00:22:46,312 been abandoned? I'm sorry, Jonathan, you had a- 381 00:22:46,386 --> 00:22:49,956 I just asked if his research included how long that building had been abandoned. 382 00:22:50,046 --> 00:22:53,616 The history on that property is those are hallowed grounds. 383 00:22:55,506 --> 00:23:01,296 Okay. So last year, we rezoned a lot of the township, including this 384 00:23:01,356 --> 00:23:06,636 property. This property, that everybody up here was celebrating 385 00:23:07,296 --> 00:23:11,437 the rezoning, was changed from seven uses. 386 00:23:12,246 --> 00:23:17,841 Now it has 26 potential uses, including, you can now have two different 387 00:23:17,947 --> 00:23:23,676 uses on the property. These uses include residential apartments 388 00:23:24,546 --> 00:23:30,456 with retail underneath. That's what the zoning change that was celebrated 389 00:23:31,146 --> 00:23:35,316 did. It includes fast food restaurant, pharmacy. 390 00:23:37,656 --> 00:23:39,876 So if you're going to make that statement, 391 00:23:41,676 --> 00:23:46,806 but you had previously changed the zoning just last year, 392 00:23:48,126 --> 00:23:50,046 it doesn't jive. I will tell you, 393 00:23:51,456 --> 00:23:55,146 there's a item agenda coming up that 394 00:23:56,616 --> 00:23:58,956 will select the potential developer of the property. 395 00:24:00,216 --> 00:24:03,306 We interviewed different developers. This was one that came in. 396 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:07,566 Without any prompting, they come in, "Here's our thinking. 397 00:24:08,226 --> 00:24:11,331 What are your ideas?" They were already aware of the cemetery. 398 00:24:11,916 --> 00:24:16,296 They had a plan to care for it and to respect it. 399 00:24:18,336 --> 00:24:21,697 I sat down with the Daughters of the American Revolution folks that are here 400 00:24:21,756 --> 00:24:27,636 tonight and expressed the same. As the process moves along, there were 401 00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:31,236 some comments before about water runoff, et cetera. 402 00:24:31,296 --> 00:24:35,360 That all happens during the site plan application at the planning board level when 403 00:24:35,406 --> 00:24:40,926 there's an actual development, an actual proposal with drawings and studies and 404 00:24:41,016 --> 00:24:42,126 engineering done. 405 00:24:43,386 --> 00:24:45,456 So all those things, 406 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:52,506 everybody's aware that the cemetery exists and it needs to be respected. As Mr. 407 00:24:52,746 --> 00:24:58,116 Heller said, it's been an empty lot with a building that is now 408 00:24:58,386 --> 00:25:03,230 basically dilapidated and condemned with trees growing through it. 409 00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:06,546 It is an eyesore for the entrance of the township. 410 00:25:07,566 --> 00:25:13,326 The proposal does not prevent the township from asking 411 00:25:13,716 --> 00:25:18,051 the developer to put a "Welcome to White House Station" sign, to put a flagpole up, 412 00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:23,736 to acknowledge the presence of the cemetery as it 413 00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:29,646 exists. Okay? That's about all I have to say on that. 414 00:25:30,156 --> 00:25:33,486 I just find it interesting that just a couple of years ago, there was a craft 415 00:25:33,516 --> 00:25:38,496 distillery that wanted to come into that property. We had no sewer available. 416 00:25:38,707 --> 00:25:42,471 No sewer, can't do it. Small business wanted to come into the town, we told them 417 00:25:42,486 --> 00:25:48,457 no. But now we suddenly have enough sewer to put in 20 affordable housing units? 418 00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:51,906 I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. 419 00:25:52,026 --> 00:25:55,207 I know there were talks previously about the township acquiring that property to 420 00:25:55,236 --> 00:26:00,036 put in a nice little park, a little sitting area, flagpole, monuments, et cetera. 421 00:26:00,457 --> 00:26:01,506 Totally support that. 422 00:26:02,766 --> 00:26:07,806 20 affordable, 100% affordable housing units right there? Welcome to Reddington. 423 00:26:07,836 --> 00:26:11,076 Here's our beautiful affordable housing. Absolutely cannot get behind that. 424 00:26:11,616 --> 00:26:17,136 And while we're on the topic, one of the previous speakers talked about how great 425 00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:19,207 100% affordable housing projects are. 426 00:26:22,896 --> 00:26:25,957 I would like to quote something. I'm going to read a little something here. 427 00:26:26,226 --> 00:26:27,786 This is interesting. 428 00:26:29,677 --> 00:26:33,082 I'm going to skip around here a little, but I'm quoting this directly. 429 00:26:33,471 --> 00:26:37,986 "Courts will be very skeptical of a plan that includes three unfunded 100% projects 430 00:26:38,046 --> 00:26:43,416 right off the bat, particularly when they are the tool to exclude other developers. 431 00:26:44,346 --> 00:26:49,356 Unlike inclusionary developments, 100% affordable developments, by definition, lack 432 00:26:49,386 --> 00:26:53,016 the internal subsidy generated through the inclusion of market-rate units. 433 00:26:53,526 --> 00:26:57,846 For those reasons, getting them approved by a court carries a higher burden of 434 00:26:57,937 --> 00:27:02,556 proof. This includes a pro forma, a construction schedule demonstrating how these 435 00:27:02,616 --> 00:27:07,207 projects will be under construction within two years of court approval. 436 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:14,481 In terms of financing, the potential shortfall for these three sites would be tens 437 00:27:14,556 --> 00:27:15,937 of millions of dollars." 438 00:27:17,616 --> 00:27:21,442 We would have to bond, go into debt to pay for these projects. 439 00:27:21,576 --> 00:27:24,877 I would like Committee Member Muller to cease. 440 00:27:25,326 --> 00:27:30,366 This is privileged information. Disclosing privileged information- 441 00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:36,666 Why? This would be bonding for millions of dollars. 442 00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:36,771 Time out. 443 00:27:36,771 --> 00:27:38,796 This is what they don't want you to hear. 444 00:27:38,812 --> 00:27:42,276 Why can't he talk? Because it's privileged information. 445 00:27:42,756 --> 00:27:43,131 We're the- 446 00:27:43,131 --> 00:27:44,317 Let him say it! 447 00:27:44,406 --> 00:27:45,156 No. 448 00:27:45,246 --> 00:27:46,656 We're residents. 449 00:27:46,746 --> 00:27:48,021 You can't interrupt him 450 00:27:48,649 --> 00:27:50,538 So what about the residents? 451 00:27:50,598 --> 00:27:52,383 Tom, we're not taking comments right now. 452 00:27:52,428 --> 00:27:54,514 We're discussing this- 453 00:27:54,858 --> 00:27:58,608 But what you said, it's privileged information. 454 00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:03,708 It's privileged to the township president. 455 00:28:06,108 --> 00:28:09,558 Thank you, Dan. Tone it down. Thank you. 456 00:28:10,308 --> 00:28:15,498 Our attorney just let me know when we're disclosing information that is not public 457 00:28:15,589 --> 00:28:18,948 because we're sometimes in negotiation or discussion. 458 00:28:19,339 --> 00:28:24,993 A township committee person is not allowed to disclose privileged information 459 00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:28,339 that's under contract. It has nothing to do with transparency or talking to 460 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:28,953 residents. Now- 461 00:28:28,968 --> 00:28:33,198 This is not privileged. This is readily available if the residents would look at 462 00:28:33,258 --> 00:28:37,923 it. I'm putting this out there so you guys can, on your own, look up these codes 463 00:28:37,938 --> 00:28:41,643 and ordinances. Additionally, these projects require PILT agreements, payment in 464 00:28:41,643 --> 00:28:45,558 lieu of taxes, right? Meaning not one dime goes to the schools. 465 00:28:45,618 --> 00:28:47,928 We're inviting all these people in, and not one dime goes to the schools. 466 00:28:48,693 --> 00:28:53,118 Again, could you please listen to the attorney's advice? 467 00:28:53,779 --> 00:28:57,678 The document that you just read from says privileged and confidential. 468 00:28:57,768 --> 00:28:58,669 That is at issue. 469 00:28:58,893 --> 00:29:00,288 That's what he's talking about. 470 00:29:00,889 --> 00:29:04,788 The residents deserve to know what this governing body is voting on. 471 00:29:04,878 --> 00:29:07,669 It's that simple. They elected us into this position. 472 00:29:08,029 --> 00:29:08,193 Not- 473 00:29:08,298 --> 00:29:09,318 They deserve to know. 474 00:29:09,618 --> 00:29:15,139 Guys, I'm just going to ask, guys. This might be a bit out of here with the gavel 475 00:29:15,169 --> 00:29:18,842 whacking and yelling back and forth, but we can't have you guys yelling. 476 00:29:19,308 --> 00:29:24,108 There's 55 or 60 of you in this room, and if everybody's yelling, we're going to be 477 00:29:24,618 --> 00:29:30,348 in a bad situation. So I'm just asking you guys to maintain a bit of the 478 00:29:30,378 --> 00:29:33,048 function of this meeting because it has to happen in a certain way. 479 00:29:33,378 --> 00:29:33,663 Right. Thank you. 480 00:29:33,678 --> 00:29:39,408 So I'm in an interesting position here because I don't necessarily agree with 481 00:29:39,468 --> 00:29:40,399 everybody that's on this board. 482 00:29:42,228 --> 00:29:47,733 I made myself abundantly clear in our last meeting, which was the second meeting 483 00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:50,658 with the audit, the special meeting that we put on, and I said under no 484 00:29:50,718 --> 00:29:53,718 circumstances would I be voting for this 1183 project. 485 00:29:54,948 --> 00:29:58,368 This isn't an indicator of what I support, which direction I agree on affordable 486 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:04,308 housing, or opinions on it. I simply look at this project and because of what 487 00:30:04,339 --> 00:30:08,598 Mr. Muller said before, we had an applicant come to open a small business on this 488 00:30:08,628 --> 00:30:12,378 property with three sewer credits, and they couldn't. 489 00:30:12,393 --> 00:30:14,404 They ended up going to, I think, Hackensack. 490 00:30:15,048 --> 00:30:19,128 Their business was named because they were planning on opening on this property. 491 00:30:20,508 --> 00:30:26,178 We were in discussions not two years ago on doing a joint purchase of this property 492 00:30:26,238 --> 00:30:30,558 so we could sort of make half of it a park, and that fell apart. 493 00:30:30,858 --> 00:30:34,788 Yet here we are somehow able to muster up $305,000. 494 00:30:35,658 --> 00:30:40,698 I don't love that this is the gate to our town. Adam said it. I believe it. 495 00:30:40,788 --> 00:30:46,518 This is the gate to our town. I don't want a high-density housing complex 496 00:30:46,848 --> 00:30:49,158 to be the first thing you see when you pull in. 497 00:30:50,298 --> 00:30:52,863 The other concern that I have, too, is the source of the funding. 498 00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:57,708 We're talking about $305,000, which from what I heard in the previous meeting, was 499 00:30:57,738 --> 00:31:01,098 coming out of our Affordable Housing Trust Fund. 500 00:31:01,157 --> 00:31:05,029 That is money that was allocated during the most recent round of budget 501 00:31:05,298 --> 00:31:09,228 conversations, specifically for the extension of controls in many of the 502 00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:13,068 properties. You can go back and listen to the record on those meetings. 503 00:31:13,218 --> 00:31:18,288 We discussed funding the Affordable Housing Trust Fund specifically for the 504 00:31:18,303 --> 00:31:22,113 extensions of controls. Now, less than six months later, we're turning around and 505 00:31:22,158 --> 00:31:24,228 spending it on something else. We're not going to have the funding for the 506 00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:28,188 extension of controls, and we're just kicking the can on that financial crisis down 507 00:31:28,218 --> 00:31:28,608 the road. 508 00:31:30,468 --> 00:31:34,218 I do not support 101 Nature. I made that abundantly clear in the last meeting. 509 00:31:34,308 --> 00:31:35,899 I will continue to make that abundantly clear. 510 00:31:36,258 --> 00:31:38,718 The other projects I'm happy to talk about and work through. 511 00:31:39,738 --> 00:31:45,649 This one is a no for me, and I'm disappointed that since our last meeting, nothing 512 00:31:45,708 --> 00:31:50,193 more has changed, and I haven't heard from anyone except our affordable housing 513 00:31:50,238 --> 00:31:50,899 attorney on this. 514 00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:55,938 Okay. All right. Do I have a motion to approve? 515 00:31:56,238 --> 00:31:57,078 I make a motion to introduce. 516 00:31:57,348 --> 00:31:58,188 Do I have a second? 517 00:31:58,368 --> 00:31:59,029 Second. 518 00:31:59,448 --> 00:32:00,139 Roll call, please. 519 00:32:01,458 --> 00:32:02,149 Mr. Albany? 520 00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:02,478 Yes. 521 00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:03,649 Mr. Heller? 522 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:04,158 Yes. 523 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:05,178 Mr. Muller? 524 00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:05,779 No. 525 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:06,948 Mr. Panica? 526 00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:07,307 No. 527 00:32:08,238 --> 00:32:08,943 Mayor Hessel blush? 528 00:32:09,018 --> 00:32:09,258 Aye. 529 00:32:10,578 --> 00:32:13,998 I'll just make one or two comments because I don't think it's one or the other. 530 00:32:14,868 --> 00:32:19,488 The zoning that was changed along Route 22 permitted more uses, including 531 00:32:19,548 --> 00:32:22,998 apartments and retail in this spot. We do not want to do that. 532 00:32:23,058 --> 00:32:28,308 We want to maintain the lowest traffic impact and the lowest footprint we can. 533 00:32:29,328 --> 00:32:34,008 I am fully in support, and I've met previously with some of the folks from the 534 00:32:34,038 --> 00:32:37,818 organization that we should remove those structures. 535 00:32:38,419 --> 00:32:44,358 We should enhance the cemetery. I would like to see, and I can't speak to this 536 00:32:44,419 --> 00:32:47,883 because we have to go through a process, but I would like to see a park on that 537 00:32:47,988 --> 00:32:53,868 corner. I think we can do that. I think we can affect the look 538 00:32:53,958 --> 00:32:56,958 and protection of that cemetery. So that's my goal. 539 00:32:57,378 --> 00:33:03,228 So I do support this, and it will eliminate another 80 units that we have to do 540 00:33:03,618 --> 00:33:04,158 elsewhere. 541 00:33:05,058 --> 00:33:05,839 At minimum. 542 00:33:06,154 --> 00:33:06,873 At minimum. So let's- 543 00:33:07,399 --> 00:33:09,018 The doorknob comment, I don't love the doorknob comments. 544 00:33:09,048 --> 00:33:10,878 We're just voting to approve it. Let's move on. 545 00:33:11,268 --> 00:33:13,053 Okay. Numbers- 546 00:33:13,848 --> 00:33:18,018 The zoning was-- You can sit here and talk about the increased number of uses in 547 00:33:18,048 --> 00:33:21,228 the zoning. That's true, but that was when we were talking about three sewer units, 548 00:33:21,589 --> 00:33:24,108 where now we'll apply special zoning and additional sewer. 549 00:33:24,378 --> 00:33:26,419 So the zoning conversation is moot. 550 00:33:26,538 --> 00:33:26,928 It's like- 551 00:33:27,243 --> 00:33:27,288 Okay. All right 552 00:33:27,318 --> 00:33:28,518 ... out of the sky being blue. 553 00:33:28,578 --> 00:33:30,738 All right. I will accept your comment. Thank you. 554 00:33:31,458 --> 00:33:35,598 I just wanted to announce that the public hearing for this ordinance will be on 555 00:33:35,658 --> 00:33:36,889 September 21st. 556 00:33:37,728 --> 00:33:41,868 Okay. September 21. The second ordinance. I'll read it. 557 00:33:41,899 --> 00:33:45,889 An ordinance creating a new Chapter 50 in the Municipal Code of the Township of 558 00:33:45,948 --> 00:33:51,078 Readington, entitled Self-Insurance Fund to Comply with the New Jersey Department 559 00:33:51,108 --> 00:33:54,813 of Community Affairs Requirements, and this is ordinance number 560 00:33:55,038 --> 00:33:57,557 2226. 561 00:34:02,298 --> 00:34:04,428 Jen, who would you have to speak on this? 562 00:34:04,518 --> 00:34:06,813 Our CFO is here if you want her to make a comment on it. 563 00:34:06,828 --> 00:34:07,308 Yeah. Kim? 564 00:34:07,578 --> 00:34:09,169 Or I'd rather pretty high represent- 565 00:34:09,498 --> 00:34:13,623 I thought the mayor mentioned this was a topic when we carried over from executive 566 00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:14,419 session. 567 00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:17,149 Do you want me to comment on what this is and why we're doing this? 568 00:34:18,978 --> 00:34:20,358 I think it'll be a little less controversial. 569 00:34:21,949 --> 00:34:27,169 No. This just pertains to our dental insurance, where we did a resolution a couple 570 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,978 of meetings ago saying we were going to be self-insurance, managing it ourselves. 571 00:34:31,248 --> 00:34:35,478 This is just the ordinance required from the DCA to move forward with that. 572 00:34:35,868 --> 00:34:38,149 Because they want an ordinance, not a resolution, correct? 573 00:34:38,208 --> 00:34:38,658 Correct. 574 00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,569 Okay. So this is basically what we did a couple of weeks ago. 575 00:34:41,628 --> 00:34:43,383 It's just an ordinance, not a resolution. 576 00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:43,998 Yes. 577 00:34:44,029 --> 00:34:45,033 Thank you, Miss. Appreciate it. 578 00:34:45,033 --> 00:34:45,438 You're welcome. 579 00:34:45,558 --> 00:34:46,968 Thank you. 580 00:34:47,058 --> 00:34:47,598 I'll make- 581 00:34:48,288 --> 00:34:48,378 No 582 00:34:48,558 --> 00:34:50,988 ... I'll make a motion to introduce the ordinance. 583 00:34:51,048 --> 00:34:52,458 All right. Do I have a second? 584 00:34:52,488 --> 00:34:53,238 Second. 585 00:34:53,328 --> 00:34:54,438 Okay. Roll call, please. 586 00:34:54,828 --> 00:34:55,518 Mr. Albany? 587 00:34:55,578 --> 00:34:55,998 Yes. 588 00:34:56,058 --> 00:34:56,748 Mr. Heller? 589 00:34:56,868 --> 00:34:57,078 Yes. 590 00:34:57,318 --> 00:34:57,918 Mr. Muller? 591 00:34:58,128 --> 00:34:58,368 Aye. 592 00:34:58,578 --> 00:34:59,298 Mr. Panica? 593 00:34:59,328 --> 00:34:59,538 Yes. 594 00:34:59,838 --> 00:35:00,574 Mayor Hessel blush? 595 00:35:01,443 --> 00:35:01,443 Aye. 596 00:35:01,458 --> 00:35:04,728 The public hearing for this ordinance will be September 21. 597 00:35:05,268 --> 00:35:09,978 Okay, September 21. The next on the agenda is resolutions, and we have a number 598 00:35:10,548 --> 00:35:14,868 similar in similar categories. I'll go through this as quickly as I can. 599 00:35:15,828 --> 00:35:20,628 First resolution is a resolution acknowledging the annual audit for the year 600 00:35:20,958 --> 00:35:21,918 2025. 601 00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:29,118 We've all received that, looked at it. Any comment? 602 00:35:30,693 --> 00:35:33,828 I would again defer to the CFO if she would like to review the two findings that 603 00:35:33,858 --> 00:35:34,248 were made. 604 00:35:34,728 --> 00:35:36,318 That's on the next item, actually. 605 00:35:36,648 --> 00:35:37,578 Yeah. Why don't we- 606 00:35:37,608 --> 00:35:40,638 We can do it right now while we're doing the audits. We can do it all at once. 607 00:35:41,628 --> 00:35:43,668 Well, let's do this one first, if we can. 608 00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:44,358 Do we have a motion 609 00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:47,628 to approve the first resolution? 610 00:35:48,468 --> 00:35:48,918 So moved. 611 00:35:49,279 --> 00:35:49,593 Second. 612 00:35:50,478 --> 00:35:51,048 Roll call, please. 613 00:35:51,408 --> 00:35:52,128 Mr. Albany? 614 00:35:52,398 --> 00:35:52,608 Yes. 615 00:35:52,728 --> 00:35:53,388 Mr. Heller? 616 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:53,838 Yes. 617 00:35:53,988 --> 00:35:54,648 Mr. Muller? 618 00:35:54,918 --> 00:35:55,038 Aye. 619 00:35:55,098 --> 00:35:55,728 Mr. Panica? 620 00:35:55,848 --> 00:35:56,088 Yes. 621 00:35:56,208 --> 00:35:56,868 Mayor Hessel blush? 622 00:35:56,898 --> 00:36:01,428 Aye. And number two is a resolution accepting and approving the corrective action 623 00:36:01,458 --> 00:36:04,488 plan for the 2025 township audit. 624 00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:07,638 Thank you. 625 00:36:09,798 --> 00:36:15,108 So our 2025 audit had two recommendations, two findings, conditions. 626 00:36:15,588 --> 00:36:19,428 First one was the general ledger not being maintained in a timely fashion. 627 00:36:19,443 --> 00:36:22,998 Multiple funds reflected interfund balances at the year-end that should be 628 00:36:23,029 --> 00:36:23,568 liquidated. 629 00:36:25,638 --> 00:36:28,818 The recommendation was internal control policy procedure should be developed to 630 00:36:28,848 --> 00:36:33,588 properly maintain a timely and accurate general ledger system. 631 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:35,779 We developed that process last year. 632 00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:40,428 Part of this was not receiving our final audit for the prior year until November. 633 00:36:41,808 --> 00:36:45,468 So we've already started liquidating all of our interfunds for this year. 634 00:36:46,878 --> 00:36:51,003 The second finding was the grant fund reflected an over-expenditure. 635 00:36:51,468 --> 00:36:55,279 There was a small grant that we received that did not get Chapter 159'd, had to be 636 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:58,218 raised in the budget this year. It's already been taken care of. 637 00:36:59,268 --> 00:36:59,478 Okay. 638 00:37:01,092 --> 00:37:02,412 Thank you very much. Any questions? 639 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:09,942 I will just say, I think one of the hardest jobs that happens in this town is the 640 00:37:10,002 --> 00:37:14,742 management of this money. It is incredibly challenging to do, and then the auditors 641 00:37:14,772 --> 00:37:17,893 come in and do a pretty invasive inspection. It's always challenging. 642 00:37:17,922 --> 00:37:19,032 I'll just read a couple of things here. 643 00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:23,022 The first one is, "We encountered no significant difficulties dealing with 644 00:37:23,082 --> 00:37:27,402 management and performing to complete our audit." They also say in here, "We are 645 00:37:27,432 --> 00:37:32,037 pleased to report that no disagreements arose during the course of our audit." And 646 00:37:32,082 --> 00:37:35,562 there was one other one. Generally, they're happy. 647 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:40,902 I think the corrective actions that they've recommended weren't egregious, in my 648 00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:43,482 opinion. I've seen some egregious ones. These weren't egregious. 649 00:37:44,232 --> 00:37:46,092 So I'm pleased with the position of 650 00:37:47,952 --> 00:37:51,312 the health of our financial workflows, and I can say our budget. 651 00:37:51,762 --> 00:37:55,377 I'm pleased with the health of our financial workflows and especially with how far 652 00:37:55,377 --> 00:37:57,222 they've come over the past couple years. Thank you. 653 00:37:57,492 --> 00:37:57,537 Thank you. 654 00:37:57,777 --> 00:38:03,162 The only question I have, is this the right timing for this review of this 2025 655 00:38:03,192 --> 00:38:05,562 audit? Is it normally in September 656 00:38:07,032 --> 00:38:10,812 that we would see this, or is this just a unique timeframe? 657 00:38:11,832 --> 00:38:15,582 We had a lot to kind of catch up on last year. We were very late. 658 00:38:15,612 --> 00:38:16,692 This year, we're a little earlier. 659 00:38:16,812 --> 00:38:19,932 Next year, the hope is to be even earlier, but we are within the appropriate 660 00:38:19,992 --> 00:38:20,412 timeframe. 661 00:38:20,532 --> 00:38:23,232 Okay. So it might be earlier next year, or- 662 00:38:23,292 --> 00:38:23,502 Yes. 663 00:38:23,623 --> 00:38:25,123 Okay. You'll let us know. 664 00:38:25,182 --> 00:38:25,242 Mm-hmm. 665 00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:26,442 All right. Thank you very much. 666 00:38:26,592 --> 00:38:28,302 You're welcome. 667 00:38:28,362 --> 00:38:28,692 Motion? 668 00:38:29,112 --> 00:38:31,752 I'll make a motion to approve the corrective action plan. 669 00:38:31,782 --> 00:38:32,307 Do I have a second? 670 00:38:33,072 --> 00:38:33,402 Second. 671 00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:35,022 Roll call, please. 672 00:38:35,112 --> 00:38:39,252 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 673 00:38:39,312 --> 00:38:39,702 Yes. 674 00:38:39,732 --> 00:38:40,482 Mayor Hostetler? 675 00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:45,522 Aye. Number three, resolution requesting permission for the dedication by writer 676 00:38:45,582 --> 00:38:51,252 for police donations required by New Jersey Statute 485-29. 677 00:38:52,692 --> 00:38:52,992 Jim? 678 00:38:54,282 --> 00:38:59,202 From time to time, the police department receives donations from generous residents 679 00:38:59,232 --> 00:39:02,922 or business owners, and this just permits the acceptance of those donations. 680 00:39:03,912 --> 00:39:04,107 Okay. 681 00:39:04,272 --> 00:39:09,882 Formalizes the acceptance. It's not for each donation, but it allows for a 682 00:39:09,942 --> 00:39:10,572 process. 683 00:39:10,902 --> 00:39:13,557 Okay. Any comment? Okay. Do I have a motion? 684 00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:14,292 So moved. 685 00:39:14,382 --> 00:39:15,221 Second. 686 00:39:15,282 --> 00:39:15,972 Roll call, please. 687 00:39:16,393 --> 00:39:20,457 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 688 00:39:20,532 --> 00:39:20,742 Yes. 689 00:39:20,952 --> 00:39:21,522 Mayor Hostetler? 690 00:39:21,552 --> 00:39:26,502 Aye. Number four, resolution authorizing acceptance of open space 691 00:39:26,982 --> 00:39:27,972 acquisition grant. 692 00:39:30,522 --> 00:39:34,452 I believe this is a grant from the county, April of this year. Is that correct? 693 00:39:34,752 --> 00:39:34,992 Yes. 694 00:39:35,442 --> 00:39:35,802 Okay. 695 00:39:37,302 --> 00:39:42,072 And this is for a grant that we requested for a property in the Chambers Brook 696 00:39:42,312 --> 00:39:46,032 watershed, which follows as the next resolution. 697 00:39:46,242 --> 00:39:51,672 So I think this just enables the county to provide that grant. Any questions? 698 00:39:52,332 --> 00:39:56,893 So the grant is for $136,000, 699 00:39:58,212 --> 00:39:58,752 correct? 700 00:40:01,752 --> 00:40:01,992 Correct. 701 00:40:02,442 --> 00:40:03,447 I'm asking Eric. 702 00:40:03,672 --> 00:40:06,342 County contribution request of $136,000. 703 00:40:06,552 --> 00:40:06,792 Yep. 704 00:40:07,092 --> 00:40:07,512 Okay. 705 00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:11,592 Thank you. 706 00:40:15,222 --> 00:40:17,442 I'll make a motion to accept the grant. 707 00:40:17,742 --> 00:40:18,132 Second. 708 00:40:18,852 --> 00:40:19,422 Roll call, please. 709 00:40:20,022 --> 00:40:24,012 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 710 00:40:24,102 --> 00:40:24,342 Yes. 711 00:40:24,492 --> 00:40:25,077 Mayor Hostetler? 712 00:40:25,152 --> 00:40:30,672 Aye. Next resolution is a resolution authorizing insertion of a special item of 713 00:40:30,732 --> 00:40:35,143 revenue and appropriation into the budget for the Hunterdon County Open Space 714 00:40:35,322 --> 00:40:38,742 Acquisition Federal Grant of $136,000. 715 00:40:40,482 --> 00:40:43,932 I'm assuming this is the same grant, given it's the same amount, correct? 716 00:40:44,172 --> 00:40:44,652 Correct. 717 00:40:44,742 --> 00:40:46,782 Okay. So before it was the acceptance of the grant. 718 00:40:46,842 --> 00:40:48,972 This is us actually putting it into the budget, correct? 719 00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:49,782 Yes. 720 00:40:50,322 --> 00:40:50,562 Okay. 721 00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:51,402 That's my understanding. 722 00:40:51,552 --> 00:40:54,672 I'll make a motion to authorize the special insertions. 723 00:40:55,182 --> 00:40:56,382 Second. 724 00:40:56,682 --> 00:40:57,492 Roll call, please. 725 00:40:57,643 --> 00:41:01,677 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 726 00:41:01,722 --> 00:41:02,052 Yes. 727 00:41:02,112 --> 00:41:03,162 Mayor Hostetler? 728 00:41:03,237 --> 00:41:05,623 Aye. I'll just make a note on this one. 729 00:41:05,952 --> 00:41:11,742 This is for a parcel in the Chambers Brook watershed. This is a 31.5 acre piece. 730 00:41:12,432 --> 00:41:15,956 This is the third acquisition we've done in the Chambers Brook in the last eight 731 00:41:16,002 --> 00:41:21,762 years, a total of about 90 acres. First one was a donation, 35.5 acres on 732 00:41:21,852 --> 00:41:23,893 Ridge Road, which now has a trail on it. 733 00:41:24,312 --> 00:41:30,192 The second one was a 28.5 acre piece on Connington, which now 734 00:41:30,252 --> 00:41:35,832 has a trailhead on it. And this piece is a natural piece of land between Connington 735 00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:41,412 and Railroad Lane, and we will continue to preserve land in this watershed. 736 00:41:41,922 --> 00:41:46,467 Good thing about all three of these is they were all paid by county and Green 737 00:41:46,512 --> 00:41:50,382 Acres, with the exception of the one we're talking about, because for the first 738 00:41:50,412 --> 00:41:52,302 time, we're going into federal funds. 739 00:41:52,992 --> 00:41:58,062 Readington is now part of the Federal Highlands, which allows us to ask for federal 740 00:41:58,123 --> 00:42:02,248 money. So in some cases in future, we will ask for Green Acres money from the 741 00:42:02,352 --> 00:42:06,102 state. In some cases, we'll ask for federal money in the Highlands. 742 00:42:06,312 --> 00:42:11,802 The intent is always to have all of that paid by external sources, county, state, 743 00:42:11,893 --> 00:42:15,732 federal. So we don't use our taxes to purchase open space. 744 00:42:16,362 --> 00:42:20,562 We go in with a plan to preserve it with funds from those sources. 745 00:42:20,982 --> 00:42:25,498 So it's been very successful. And what I'd like to see in future is we connect some 746 00:42:25,542 --> 00:42:29,952 of these parcels with easements or connections, and then we do what we do with 747 00:42:30,762 --> 00:42:34,302 Readington Middle School. We have open space and trails near the school. 748 00:42:34,572 --> 00:42:38,472 Maybe someday we'll have something for White House School, and we can get kids into 749 00:42:38,562 --> 00:42:41,081 a natural area, something like that. 750 00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:43,812 So anyway, that's a little background on what we're talking about. 751 00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:49,227 Next, six, resolution authorizing acceptance of national opioid- 752 00:42:51,012 --> 00:42:51,432 Opioid 753 00:42:51,462 --> 00:42:56,427 ... opioids. Thank you. English is my second language. German is my first language. 754 00:42:56,502 --> 00:42:58,632 Sorry. Settlement funds. Any- 755 00:42:59,352 --> 00:43:04,873 So back when there was all the lawsuits around opioid 756 00:43:04,902 --> 00:43:09,643 addictions and abuse, there were some settlements that were made by large 757 00:43:09,672 --> 00:43:14,052 pharmaceutical companies, which required them basically to make payments to towns. 758 00:43:14,893 --> 00:43:19,992 So this is an annual thing that we see, where we accept some money from each one of 759 00:43:20,052 --> 00:43:24,522 the major pharmaceutical companies on the national opioid settlement. 760 00:43:24,612 --> 00:43:29,802 So what you're going to see here is item six is the acceptance of the settlement 761 00:43:29,862 --> 00:43:35,097 funds. Then items seven, eight, nine, ten are the insertion of those into the 762 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:38,772 budget. So similar to what you just saw on the open space grant. 763 00:43:38,802 --> 00:43:42,042 Once we accept the funds, we have to make the modifications to the budget to be 764 00:43:42,102 --> 00:43:45,192 able to bring it into our books and then pay back out. 765 00:43:45,462 --> 00:43:47,412 So that's what these next several are going to be. 766 00:43:47,502 --> 00:43:50,427 It's going to seem kind of like a machine as we roll through them, but they're all 767 00:43:50,472 --> 00:43:50,862 related. 768 00:43:51,162 --> 00:43:52,542 Okay. Do I have a motion for number six? 769 00:43:52,632 --> 00:43:54,192 I'll make the motion to accept the funds. 770 00:43:54,222 --> 00:43:56,367 Do I have a second? 771 00:43:56,367 --> 00:43:56,547 Second. 772 00:43:56,547 --> 00:43:56,637 Roll call, please. 773 00:43:56,637 --> 00:44:00,042 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 774 00:44:00,102 --> 00:44:00,432 Yes. 775 00:44:00,492 --> 00:44:01,047 Mayor Hostetler? 776 00:44:01,182 --> 00:44:05,412 Aye. Number seven, resolution authorizing insertion of a special item of revenue 777 00:44:05,442 --> 00:44:10,632 and appropriation to the budget for the New Jersey Attorney General's Office, and 778 00:44:10,873 --> 00:44:15,643 this is for settlement TEVA payment four in the amount of 779 00:44:15,657 --> 00:44:19,812 $3,250.23. Do I have a motion for this one? 780 00:44:19,873 --> 00:44:20,531 I'll make a motion. 781 00:44:20,623 --> 00:44:21,402 Second. 782 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:22,121 Roll call, please. 783 00:44:22,393 --> 00:44:26,202 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 784 00:44:26,277 --> 00:44:26,532 Yes. 785 00:44:26,562 --> 00:44:27,192 Mayor Hostetler? 786 00:44:27,222 --> 00:44:31,617 Aye. Number eight, resolution authorizing the insertion of a special item of 787 00:44:31,692 --> 00:44:34,992 revenue and appropriation into the budget for the New Jersey Attorney General's 788 00:44:35,143 --> 00:44:39,462 Office, CVS payment four in the amount of 789 00:44:40,182 --> 00:44:44,112 $5,924.70. Do I have a motion? 790 00:44:44,532 --> 00:44:44,982 So moved. 791 00:44:45,327 --> 00:44:45,327 Second. 792 00:44:46,332 --> 00:44:46,992 Roll call, please. 793 00:44:47,232 --> 00:44:51,177 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 794 00:44:51,282 --> 00:44:51,492 Yes. 795 00:44:51,643 --> 00:44:52,272 Mayor Hostetler? 796 00:44:52,302 --> 00:44:57,012 Aye. Number nine, resolution authorizing insertion of special item of revenue 797 00:44:57,102 --> 00:45:02,022 appropriation to the budget for New Jersey Attorney General's office, and this is 798 00:45:02,112 --> 00:45:08,081 the Allergan payment number four in the amount of $3,351.57. 799 00:45:08,382 --> 00:45:08,952 So moved. 800 00:45:09,102 --> 00:45:09,822 Second. 801 00:45:09,852 --> 00:45:10,512 Roll call, please. 802 00:45:10,962 --> 00:45:14,922 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 803 00:45:14,982 --> 00:45:15,402 Yes. 804 00:45:15,432 --> 00:45:16,092 Mayor Hostetler? 805 00:45:16,152 --> 00:45:20,982 Aye. Thank you. Number 10, resolution authorizing the insertion of a special item 806 00:45:21,042 --> 00:45:24,882 of revenue and appropriation into the budget for the New Jersey Attorney General's 807 00:45:24,912 --> 00:45:28,917 Office. This is Janssen payment number six in the amount of 808 00:45:28,932 --> 00:45:32,442 $1,643.57. 809 00:45:33,432 --> 00:45:34,121 So moved. 810 00:45:34,182 --> 00:45:34,542 Second. 811 00:45:35,052 --> 00:45:35,712 Roll call, please. 812 00:45:35,772 --> 00:45:39,732 Mr. Albany? Yes. Mr. Haller? Yes. Mr. Moller? Aye. Mr. Panico? 813 00:45:39,822 --> 00:45:40,032 Yes. 814 00:45:40,062 --> 00:45:40,812 Mayor Hostetler? 815 00:45:41,262 --> 00:45:42,087 Aye. Thank you. 816 00:45:42,102 --> 00:45:47,232 The total amount for those four, for those keeping track, were $14,170.07. 817 00:45:48,643 --> 00:45:54,492 Okay. Now we have a series of resolutions also similar into extending 818 00:45:54,582 --> 00:45:54,942 some 819 00:45:56,862 --> 00:46:00,972 revenue items, or not revenue items, but budget items. So I'll read it. 820 00:46:01,302 --> 00:46:03,942 Number 11, resolution amending Resolution 821 00:46:04,272 --> 00:46:10,152 R2026-127 to increase the not to exceed amount 822 00:46:10,182 --> 00:46:12,012 for SSP Architects 823 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:14,880 Any discussion? 824 00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:20,670 Jim, just in general, for all of these, do we have the budget to increase these 825 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,140 fees, these passes? 826 00:46:22,155 --> 00:46:26,775 I'll ask our CFO that same question, but specifically SSP, the increase was due to 827 00:46:26,775 --> 00:46:27,825 the federal grant, the US Department of the Grant. 828 00:46:27,945 --> 00:46:31,380 Right. How was the grant, but specifically the other ones? 829 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,020 Yes. So as Administrator Curry said, SSP is funded by grants. 830 00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:39,960 The next one, do you want me to go through all of them, or wait? 831 00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:41,805 Sure, go through all of them. 832 00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:44,730 So the, oh, God, I have to say the whole thing. 833 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:50,670 Savo, Shalck, Corsini, Warner, Gillespie, and Rudnick and Fisher. 834 00:46:51,601 --> 00:46:54,360 That comes from our legal line that we do have funds in that. 835 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,130 Same thing for 836 00:46:57,390 --> 00:47:02,205 item 13. 14 is funded through several funding sources. 837 00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:08,174 So it's a combination of escrow and operating and things 838 00:47:08,221 --> 00:47:12,765 like that. And Clark, Keating, Hince is funded by operating budget and our 839 00:47:12,765 --> 00:47:13,424 affordable housing. 840 00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:17,101 So you're saying we have money. 841 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:18,120 You're saying we have the money. 842 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:18,674 Yes. 843 00:47:18,674 --> 00:47:20,040 You're recommending these motions. 844 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,820 We don't have a choice. 845 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:26,160 Okay. It is required. 846 00:47:27,210 --> 00:47:31,020 Okay. All right. Yeah, I'll just add this color. 847 00:47:31,110 --> 00:47:34,530 Basically, when we approve all these vendors, and I think this is the first year we 848 00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:37,680 did it, we hit a cap on our spending, because we're just trying to have a good, 849 00:47:37,741 --> 00:47:39,390 broad overview of how much we're spending. 850 00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:42,105 We don't hit the cap with these five, so we're just moving the cap up. 851 00:47:42,241 --> 00:47:45,900 It's just some internal controls just to make sure that we're aware of our 852 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,530 spending. 853 00:47:46,575 --> 00:47:46,575 Yes. 854 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:51,510 But that's all it is. So I'll make a motion to increase the NTE for SSP. 855 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:53,851 Okay. Roll call, please. 856 00:47:54,450 --> 00:47:55,230 Mr. Abney? 857 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,560 Yes. 858 00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:56,190 Mr. Heller? 859 00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:56,580 Yes. 860 00:47:56,820 --> 00:47:57,165 Mr. Moller? 861 00:47:57,315 --> 00:47:57,315 Aye. 862 00:47:57,660 --> 00:47:58,290 Mr. Panico? 863 00:47:58,351 --> 00:47:58,471 Yes. 864 00:47:58,650 --> 00:47:59,655 Mayor Hostetler? 865 00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:01,230 Aye. And number 12 resolution. 866 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,360 I'll make a motion to exceed the NTE for Savo. 867 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:04,800 Second. 868 00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,690 Okay. Roll call, please. 869 00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:07,680 Mr. Abney? 870 00:48:07,770 --> 00:48:07,950 Yes. 871 00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:08,580 Mr. Heller? 872 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,880 Yes. 873 00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:09,480 Mr. Moller? 874 00:48:09,555 --> 00:48:09,555 Aye. 875 00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:10,530 Mr. Panico? 876 00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:10,770 Yes. 877 00:48:10,860 --> 00:48:11,550 Mayor Hostetler? 878 00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:12,601 Okay. 14? 879 00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:15,870 I'll make a motion to increase the NTE for Syria. 880 00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:17,010 Second. 881 00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:18,450 Roll call, please. 882 00:48:18,601 --> 00:48:19,260 Mr. Abney? 883 00:48:19,471 --> 00:48:19,650 Yes. 884 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,340 Mr. Heller? 885 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:20,670 Yes. 886 00:48:20,851 --> 00:48:21,241 Mr. Moller? 887 00:48:21,330 --> 00:48:21,540 Aye. 888 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:22,230 Mr. Panico? 889 00:48:22,290 --> 00:48:22,530 Yes. 890 00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:23,579 Mayor Hostetler? 891 00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:25,260 Aye. Thank you. 14? 892 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,290 I'll make the motion to increase the NTE for Van Cleef. 893 00:48:28,650 --> 00:48:29,010 Second. 894 00:48:29,790 --> 00:48:30,435 Roll call, please. 895 00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:31,200 Mr. Abney? 896 00:48:31,351 --> 00:48:31,500 Yes. 897 00:48:31,590 --> 00:48:32,190 Mr. Heller? 898 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:32,520 Yes. 899 00:48:32,730 --> 00:48:33,060 Mr. Moller? 900 00:48:33,180 --> 00:48:33,450 Aye. 901 00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:34,020 Mr. Panico? 902 00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:34,560 Yes. 903 00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:35,430 Mayor Hostetler? 904 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:41,130 Aye. 15 is, I'll make the motion to increase the NTE for 905 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:41,910 CCH. 906 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:42,630 Second. 907 00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:43,620 Roll call. 908 00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:44,580 Mr. Abney? 909 00:48:44,820 --> 00:48:45,000 Yes. 910 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:45,660 Mr. Heller? 911 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:45,991 Yes. 912 00:48:46,351 --> 00:48:46,710 Mr. Moller? 913 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,039 Aye. 914 00:48:47,101 --> 00:48:47,851 Mr. Panico? 915 00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:48,090 Yes. 916 00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:48,855 Mayor Hostetler? 917 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,260 Aye. 918 00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:54,420 Okay, number 16, unless you're going to speak to this, I'll read it first. 919 00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:58,080 A resolution authorizing and directing the Planning Board of the Township of 920 00:48:58,110 --> 00:49:03,810 Readington to undertake a preliminary investigation of Block 21.05, 921 00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:09,900 Lot 2. The study area, 200 Van Horn Road, pursuant to New Jersey Redevelopment and 922 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,540 Housing Law. A classification as an area in need of redevelopment and directing the 923 00:49:15,601 --> 00:49:20,851 Planning Board to prepare a study investigating whether the study area qualifies as 924 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,670 a condemnation area in need of redevelopment. 925 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:30,120 I believe this is a technical, legal update on something we have previously 926 00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:32,010 discussed and approved. So let me- 927 00:49:32,101 --> 00:49:36,660 Yeah, that's it. Well, we have to come back to the Planning Board with their 928 00:49:36,721 --> 00:49:37,380 recommendation. 929 00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:41,160 What is the Planning Board going to be studying? 930 00:49:41,790 --> 00:49:42,510 So this is the 931 00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:49,380 Morilla Senior Center and expanding Morilla Senior Center from 60 units to 100 932 00:49:49,395 --> 00:49:49,695 units. 933 00:49:50,116 --> 00:49:52,530 And this is part of our affordable housing plan, correct? 934 00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:54,075 Correct. 935 00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:55,770 I don't think this hit the Planning Board yet, did it? 936 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:56,430 No. 937 00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:58,890 Because this is directing the Planning Board to review it. Yeah. 938 00:49:59,910 --> 00:50:01,094 Then we'll come back up. 939 00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:07,110 And so to restate it, it is taking the existing Morilla senior residents 940 00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:12,900 and looking at doubling it to adding another 60 units onto it, correct? 941 00:50:12,915 --> 00:50:16,890 Correct. Down below Van Horn Road. 942 00:50:16,995 --> 00:50:17,640 We'll get more on that. 943 00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:17,971 Okay. 944 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,085 Make a motion to approve the resolution. 945 00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:22,710 Second. Roll call, please. 946 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,430 Mr. Abney? 947 00:50:23,550 --> 00:50:23,820 Yes. 948 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,630 Mr. Heller? 949 00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:25,020 Yes. 950 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:25,830 Mr. Moller? 951 00:50:26,010 --> 00:50:26,221 No. 952 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:27,601 Mr. Panico? 953 00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:28,080 Yes. 954 00:50:28,650 --> 00:50:29,340 Mayor Hostetler? 955 00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:30,601 Aye. Thank you. 956 00:50:33,241 --> 00:50:38,910 And this will go to the Planning Board on the 14th or what's the timing? 957 00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:39,780 Do they- 958 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:45,870 So what this is doing is directing the planner, locate Hince to conduct a study to 959 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:50,670 bring to the Planning Board for feedback and eventual 960 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:52,230 funding. 961 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,480 Okay. So it'll be a future meeting at some point. 962 00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:55,695 I don't know if they- 963 00:50:56,460 --> 00:50:58,800 Okay. Thank you. 964 00:50:59,640 --> 00:50:59,775 Yes. 965 00:50:59,775 --> 00:51:05,670 Number 17, resolution designating the property identified as Block 4, Lot 18 on the 966 00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:10,635 tax map of the township of Readington as an area in need of redevelopment, not 967 00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:15,270 condemnation, pursuant to the New Jersey Local Redevelopment and Housing Law. 968 00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:19,650 Okay. Mr. Mayor, 969 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:24,690 this property was purchased using open space trust fund money. 970 00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:28,799 How is this being included in our affordable housing plan? 971 00:51:33,601 --> 00:51:34,035 This is- 972 00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:38,670 The property was purchased with open space trust fund. 973 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:41,550 By state law, it has to be held in trust. 974 00:51:41,971 --> 00:51:45,030 This is the property on Route 22 West. 975 00:51:45,150 --> 00:51:48,690 This property was purchased with open space trust funds. 976 00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:52,891 Counselor, I believe you had an opportunity to review that ordinance. 977 00:51:52,951 --> 00:51:53,851 Would you concur? 978 00:51:53,940 --> 00:51:54,690 You, yes. 979 00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:57,690 Well, the thing I'll tell you is that's not true. 980 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,510 It was purchased by the direction of the administrator, and it was not- 981 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,055 This was purchased, the ordinance 29 out of 2021. 982 00:52:08,055 --> 00:52:08,971 Adam, can I speak? 983 00:52:09,451 --> 00:52:10,231 Go ahead. 984 00:52:10,891 --> 00:52:16,231 It was originally pulled from open space trust, and I believe within six months, I 985 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:21,360 don't know the period of time. We need to check, but it was repaid so that 986 00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:28,141 it was not an open space parcel. It was not using open space money other than 987 00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:32,731 maybe for the original purchase. I'm pretty sure of that. That was Richard. 988 00:52:32,851 --> 00:52:38,221 This was carried in our 2021 financial statements as such. 989 00:52:39,869 --> 00:52:43,904 So I do not believe we should be proceeding ahead with this- 990 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:44,490 Okay 991 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:47,340 ... resolution with these open items. 992 00:52:47,370 --> 00:52:50,610 This was clearly purchased with open space money. 993 00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:56,731 Alicia, can you, I don't know if you can do it right now, can you verify the source 994 00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:57,451 of the funding? 995 00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:00,721 I have everything here. Alicia, if you'd like to take a look. 996 00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:08,940 Yeah. No, the money was paid back to the open space trust. 997 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:12,840 That's what we need to verify. Not the original- That's what they were doing right 998 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,356 by, too. Not the original, 999 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,160 maybe, resolution. 1000 00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:23,010 Because this isn't carried on the roster, it's not part of the open space. 1001 00:53:23,101 --> 00:53:24,060 It never has been. 1002 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:28,800 If it was purchased with open space funds, it cannot be included in affordable 1003 00:53:28,815 --> 00:53:30,900 housing. It can't. It legally cannot. 1004 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,940 Even if you're telling me that a year later we switched funds, there's a process 1005 00:53:35,971 --> 00:53:40,981 for doing that. There's a diversion protocol that we have to follow to do that. 1006 00:53:42,570 --> 00:53:45,210 So either we did it wrong or we didn't do it. 1007 00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:49,080 But either way, the property was purchased with open space money. 1008 00:53:49,141 --> 00:53:50,235 We can't do what we're doing. 1009 00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:55,410 Tell you what, Adam, we will ask the CFO to research and advise on that. 1010 00:53:56,070 --> 00:53:59,190 I make a motion to table this ordinance or this resolution. 1011 00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:01,170 Second. 1012 00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:06,540 She's not going to get the answer in the next two weeks. 1013 00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:09,960 We don't want her to get both the answers that way. 1014 00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:10,320 No. 1015 00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:14,670 Let's take proper time, do it appropriately. 1016 00:54:14,971 --> 00:54:16,170 So I'll second the- 1017 00:54:16,201 --> 00:54:20,925 Yeah, I second it. So when there's a motion and a second, there's usually a 1018 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:26,101 discussion. I will say, I gave feedback on this specific piece of property. 1019 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,190 I had said that my want with this was to look at using 1020 00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:36,630 some of the resources that we had talked in the past around making this veterans 1021 00:54:36,645 --> 00:54:40,335 housing. When our previous administrator was here, we went pretty far down this 1022 00:54:40,351 --> 00:54:44,550 road. We had vendors and funding sources lined up. 1023 00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:46,110 We had a lot of conversation around it. 1024 00:54:47,221 --> 00:54:52,545 In our second meeting in August, I made it very clear that I would use the land to 1025 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,620 see the exploration into that, have a look at it. 1026 00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,760 Not that I'm aware of. 1027 00:54:59,851 --> 00:55:00,060 Okay. 1028 00:55:00,150 --> 00:55:04,410 But your message was passed along to see if it was a viable 1029 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,270 opportunity. 1030 00:55:07,290 --> 00:55:10,351 Yeah, I mean, my message was passed along because I called Laura Schroeder- 1031 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:10,830 I sent her 1032 00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:11,940 ... and put her in touch with the person. 1033 00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:16,410 We sat in Jim's office. We sent me the information, and I immediately passed it 1034 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,846 along to this affordable housing subcommittee before the session. 1035 00:55:19,981 --> 00:55:20,190 Okay. 1036 00:55:20,835 --> 00:55:20,835 Yeah. 1037 00:55:20,851 --> 00:55:22,620 We'll discuss this after. 1038 00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:23,925 Okay. 1039 00:55:23,971 --> 00:55:25,724 Can I do a roll call on that? 1040 00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:27,750 There's a motion and a second. 1041 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,710 Mr. Abney? 1042 00:55:29,550 --> 00:55:29,820 Yes. 1043 00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:30,960 Mr. Heller? 1044 00:55:31,050 --> 00:55:31,290 Yes. 1045 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,130 Mr. Moller? 1046 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,641 Aye. 1047 00:55:32,701 --> 00:55:33,360 Mr. Panico? 1048 00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:33,721 Yes. 1049 00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:34,500 Mayor Hostetler? 1050 00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:34,860 Aye. 1051 00:55:36,456 --> 00:55:42,096 Okay, let me move on. Number 18, resolution authorizing the execution of a 1052 00:55:42,516 --> 00:55:46,206 memorandum of understanding with FBC Trading. 1053 00:55:47,616 --> 00:55:51,846 This is referred to as the Kitchen property, number 22. Is that correct? 1054 00:55:53,376 --> 00:55:53,916 Correct. 1055 00:55:54,337 --> 00:55:54,816 Okay. 1056 00:55:54,906 --> 00:56:00,486 So, it's another part of our affordable housing plans to allow for 48 1057 00:56:01,297 --> 00:56:04,386 units, all senior designation, 1058 00:56:06,277 --> 00:56:07,297 55 plus. 1059 00:56:08,106 --> 00:56:13,837 That's not what the MOU says. The MOU says 48 apartments, 12 1060 00:56:13,927 --> 00:56:17,076 units would be affordable, 36 would be market rate. 1061 00:56:17,436 --> 00:56:18,486 The intention, 1062 00:56:21,696 --> 00:56:23,316 and it's stated. I mean, I'd say it was- 1063 00:56:23,886 --> 00:56:26,196 Can you talk about sort of the framework of these MOUs? 1064 00:56:26,226 --> 00:56:29,751 What does it mean when at this point we're signing an MOU with a developer? 1065 00:56:30,036 --> 00:56:33,246 If you could educate folks on that, John, that'd probably be pretty helpful. 1066 00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:37,057 Well, on that front, so I defer to Chris on explaining the meaning exactly. 1067 00:56:38,196 --> 00:56:43,236 Begins the process, moving down the path towards eventually having a partnering 1068 00:56:43,297 --> 00:56:46,297 with these individuals, groups, and one of them is having a new development. 1069 00:56:46,341 --> 00:56:48,876 So we're working with another town through the process. 1070 00:56:49,356 --> 00:56:52,101 So what are the terms for what comes next? 1071 00:56:52,386 --> 00:56:54,816 How did we pick these developers, right? 1072 00:56:54,876 --> 00:57:00,846 This is the first time I'm seeing FBC Trading LLC, and I'm really interested in 1073 00:57:01,807 --> 00:57:06,547 how this came about, what the process was to us getting to the selection of these 1074 00:57:06,576 --> 00:57:07,596 developers. 1075 00:57:07,641 --> 00:57:11,196 So the property owner came forward and identified themselves as interested in 1076 00:57:11,226 --> 00:57:12,486 participating in the process. 1077 00:57:14,196 --> 00:57:20,076 We met with them. At one time, Pat and I met with them, and then they come 1078 00:57:20,256 --> 00:57:23,587 in front of the Affordable, from the folks from the Kitchen. 1079 00:57:23,856 --> 00:57:27,006 We were on the video, and I was in town with them. 1080 00:57:28,087 --> 00:57:32,316 And we had a conversation. What do you think? 1081 00:57:32,706 --> 00:57:35,826 For these folks, it was a lot of understanding the process. 1082 00:57:37,027 --> 00:57:40,057 What does it all mean? How does it work? Et cetera. 1083 00:57:40,326 --> 00:57:45,456 And then they come into the Affordable Housing Subcommittee, and there's another 1084 00:57:45,486 --> 00:57:50,256 conversation that goes on, and it winds up putting all of those conversations 1085 00:57:50,286 --> 00:57:52,326 together in an MOU. 1086 00:57:53,376 --> 00:57:58,701 So this is a developer that the property owner has chosen, and we've bought the 1087 00:57:58,701 --> 00:57:59,076 property. 1088 00:57:59,226 --> 00:58:01,927 Yeah, I don't know if they created an LLC for this purpose. 1089 00:58:02,136 --> 00:58:03,816 I don't know what FBC stands for. 1090 00:58:03,861 --> 00:58:06,021 Okay. Anyway, this is brought forward by the property owner. 1091 00:58:06,126 --> 00:58:09,396 This isn't one that the township went out and selected, is what I'm saying. 1092 00:58:09,996 --> 00:58:10,297 No. 1093 00:58:10,356 --> 00:58:10,746 Okay. 1094 00:58:10,837 --> 00:58:13,807 No, if you're asking is this a designated developer- 1095 00:58:14,527 --> 00:58:14,946 Mm-hmm. 1096 00:58:15,036 --> 00:58:15,156 No. 1097 00:58:16,386 --> 00:58:16,416 Okay. 1098 00:58:16,446 --> 00:58:21,576 Will our township professionals have any expenses associated with this? 1099 00:58:23,286 --> 00:58:23,736 Of course. 1100 00:58:25,656 --> 00:58:29,677 Will they be refunded, though? Wouldn't they be refunded for escrow? 1101 00:58:29,736 --> 00:58:30,427 You can ask for money. 1102 00:58:30,516 --> 00:58:30,666 Yeah. 1103 00:58:30,696 --> 00:58:31,745 You can. It's very common. 1104 00:58:32,016 --> 00:58:37,087 Yeah. So if there's expenses, they can be escrowed, or paid for escrow with the- 1105 00:58:37,266 --> 00:58:38,121 We can set up escrow for it 1106 00:58:38,121 --> 00:58:38,587 ... with the offset. 1107 00:58:40,777 --> 00:58:41,916 Yeah. Actually a conditional approval. 1108 00:58:42,606 --> 00:58:43,956 Okay. Do I have a motion? 1109 00:58:45,006 --> 00:58:50,466 I'll make the motion to approve, with the escrow 1110 00:58:50,915 --> 00:58:51,575 language added. 1111 00:58:53,346 --> 00:58:56,166 And I defer to the attorney on what that is with the- 1112 00:58:56,466 --> 00:58:57,756 You'd have to talk to Mike Edwards. 1113 00:58:57,996 --> 00:58:58,010 Yeah. 1114 00:58:58,010 --> 00:58:58,956 The key we have. 1115 00:58:59,016 --> 00:59:02,256 Yeah. I defer to Mike Edwards on the recommended amount of language. 1116 00:59:02,527 --> 00:59:05,706 But I'll make the motion with the escrow language added. 1117 00:59:06,126 --> 00:59:07,027 Okay. Do I have a second? 1118 00:59:08,916 --> 00:59:09,337 Second. 1119 00:59:10,716 --> 00:59:11,766 Okay. Roll call. 1120 00:59:12,427 --> 00:59:13,087 Mr. Abney? 1121 00:59:13,536 --> 00:59:13,746 Yes. 1122 00:59:14,016 --> 00:59:14,766 Mr. Haller? 1123 00:59:14,856 --> 00:59:15,156 Yes. 1124 00:59:15,396 --> 00:59:15,996 Mr. Muller? 1125 00:59:16,206 --> 00:59:16,476 No. 1126 00:59:16,896 --> 00:59:17,646 Mr. Panico? 1127 00:59:17,766 --> 00:59:18,096 Yes. 1128 00:59:18,456 --> 00:59:19,146 Mayor Hostetler. 1129 00:59:19,416 --> 00:59:24,891 Aye. Thank you. Number 19, resolution authorizing the execution of a memorandum of 1130 00:59:24,936 --> 00:59:29,541 understanding between the township of Readington and Weeds Work Properties Urban 1131 00:59:29,541 --> 00:59:31,146 Renewal LLC. 1132 00:59:35,406 --> 00:59:38,496 In this case, we're talking about the Main Street property, is that correct? 1133 00:59:38,976 --> 00:59:44,886 This is the Main Street property, and it's a property that the township owns that's 1134 00:59:45,036 --> 00:59:47,766 out on the border of Ranch Burr, can't see it from the road. 1135 00:59:48,936 --> 00:59:54,172 It's where the new Kingdom Hall is built. There's an existing structure there. 1136 00:59:54,246 --> 01:00:00,216 It's a house that used to be occupied in the most part, used 1137 01:00:00,307 --> 01:00:05,557 for affordable housing. It's been vacant for a while, so developer is interested. 1138 01:00:05,616 --> 01:00:08,225 This is a small-scale developer, doing 20 units. 1139 01:00:08,587 --> 01:00:13,656 And then they're also interested in building two houses, three 1140 01:00:13,746 --> 01:00:19,536 homes on that property that's out on the border of Ranch Burr, and that gets 1141 01:00:19,566 --> 01:00:22,596 us eight credits towards our obligation. 1142 01:00:23,436 --> 01:00:27,726 Okay, so this is near County Line Road on the north side of 22. Is that correct? 1143 01:00:27,906 --> 01:00:30,636 Correct. It's on the west-bound side. 1144 01:00:30,696 --> 01:00:35,406 So this MOU is saying the township would be responsible for, 1145 01:00:37,777 --> 01:00:40,386 what is this, $2 million? $2 1146 01:00:41,706 --> 01:00:45,066 million, or that, I might be reading this wrong because it's mentioning two 1147 01:00:45,096 --> 01:00:50,856 properties. No, it's a million, $1,020,000 out of our affordable housing 1148 01:00:50,916 --> 01:00:56,766 trust fund. Do we have $1,020,000 in our trust fund, CBO? We do not. 1149 01:00:57,666 --> 01:00:59,166 So where's that money going to come from? 1150 01:01:01,386 --> 01:01:03,396 Our pockets, people. Our pockets. 1151 01:01:03,427 --> 01:01:08,016 We're going to bond, and you're going to get taxed on it. That's how this works. 1152 01:01:08,541 --> 01:01:08,690 Mm-hmm. 1153 01:01:10,027 --> 01:01:13,356 That this is what we're talking about here that no one up here wants to talk about. 1154 01:01:13,476 --> 01:01:15,277 I don't want to live that long anymore. 1155 01:01:15,936 --> 01:01:19,520 And this agreement also specifically talks about a pilot agreement, 1156 01:01:21,006 --> 01:01:25,940 a payment in lieu of taxes. So the township gets a one-time infusion of cash, and 1157 01:01:25,986 --> 01:01:26,180 then- 1158 01:01:27,156 --> 01:01:27,996 One time per year 1159 01:01:28,236 --> 01:01:31,087 ... one time per year, well below market rate. 1160 01:01:31,476 --> 01:01:31,716 So- 1161 01:01:31,866 --> 01:01:35,212 Mr. Abney, can you please speak into the microphone? 1162 01:01:35,256 --> 01:01:39,696 And none of that money goes to the schools, which is about 70% of your tax bill. 1163 01:01:39,786 --> 01:01:43,326 So keep that in mind, too. So your school taxes are going up, too. 1164 01:01:45,756 --> 01:01:49,190 Highly unlikely that group homes generate students. 1165 01:01:49,206 --> 01:01:49,761 We can't hear. 1166 01:01:49,777 --> 01:01:50,976 Just speak up, John. 1167 01:01:51,277 --> 01:01:54,966 Sorry. It's highly unlikely that group homes are going to generate students. 1168 01:01:57,096 --> 01:02:02,645 Also, in pilot agreements, the municipality can 1169 01:02:03,096 --> 01:02:06,756 dedicate some of the pilot money to schools if they choose to do so. 1170 01:02:06,846 --> 01:02:08,016 Have we ever done that? 1171 01:02:08,166 --> 01:02:09,201 Doesn't mean that we can't. 1172 01:02:09,215 --> 01:02:11,557 We've never done it. Ever. 1173 01:02:15,846 --> 01:02:16,087 Okay. 1174 01:02:16,446 --> 01:02:20,196 It's important you folks attend these meetings. Hear what's going on. 1175 01:02:21,307 --> 01:02:22,101 Okay. Do I have a- 1176 01:02:22,206 --> 01:02:23,976 Oh, I got one more question on this, actually. 1177 01:02:25,386 --> 01:02:31,191 We had an executive session about a month ago where we specifically talked about 1178 01:02:31,297 --> 01:02:32,047 bonding. 1179 01:02:34,087 --> 01:02:38,527 You need four votes to bond, just to be clear. 1180 01:02:39,427 --> 01:02:41,856 There was not the appetite for four votes for bonding. 1181 01:02:41,946 --> 01:02:47,015 So again, how are we proceeding with any of these projects if you don't have the 1182 01:02:47,076 --> 01:02:48,186 votes to bond? 1183 01:02:49,866 --> 01:02:55,686 So we're basically wasting our professionals' time, your money, having them spin 1184 01:02:55,746 --> 01:02:58,837 their wheels, our lawyers, planners, all these people spinning their wheels 1185 01:03:00,277 --> 01:03:04,896 for projects that you don't have the votes to bond for this. 1186 01:03:05,916 --> 01:03:10,506 That's why we also just increased all of our consultants' fees, guys. 1187 01:03:15,096 --> 01:03:16,146 Okay. Do I have a motion? 1188 01:03:17,016 --> 01:03:17,886 So moved. 1189 01:03:17,916 --> 01:03:18,606 Do I have a second? 1190 01:03:19,266 --> 01:03:19,596 Second. 1191 01:03:20,182 --> 01:03:20,856 Roll call, please. 1192 01:03:21,726 --> 01:03:22,386 Mr. Abney? 1193 01:03:22,596 --> 01:03:22,777 Yes. 1194 01:03:23,256 --> 01:03:23,916 Mr. Haller? 1195 01:03:24,096 --> 01:03:24,366 Yes. 1196 01:03:25,057 --> 01:03:25,716 Mr. Muller? 1197 01:03:25,896 --> 01:03:26,226 No. 1198 01:03:26,856 --> 01:03:27,666 Mr. Panico? 1199 01:03:27,816 --> 01:03:27,936 No. 1200 01:03:28,956 --> 01:03:29,585 Mayor Hostetler. 1201 01:03:29,646 --> 01:03:29,946 Aye. 1202 01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:36,606 Okay. Next is 20, resolution appointing Larry Thode to the Board of Health. 1203 01:03:36,771 --> 01:03:39,156 Fine. 1204 01:03:39,696 --> 01:03:42,741 No resume. 1205 01:03:42,741 --> 01:03:43,462 Jonathan? 1206 01:03:43,956 --> 01:03:48,396 It's a gentleman who showed up at one of the Board of Health meetings, and he's 1207 01:03:48,456 --> 01:03:52,476 recently retired, and he offered his services. He's an engineer. 1208 01:03:52,911 --> 01:03:55,326 He offered his services to come on the Board of Health. There was a vacancy. 1209 01:03:55,956 --> 01:04:00,141 The committee chair interviewed him, as did the rest of the board, and they made a 1210 01:04:00,156 --> 01:04:01,986 recommendation that he be added to the Board of Health. 1211 01:04:02,527 --> 01:04:04,116 Is that a full-time member? Is that a- 1212 01:04:04,146 --> 01:04:04,927 Full-time 1213 01:04:05,076 --> 01:04:05,557 ... full-time? Okay. 1214 01:04:06,906 --> 01:04:07,446 Any questions? 1215 01:04:09,366 --> 01:04:12,996 Is this following the process for appointments and vacancies, Council? 1216 01:04:14,916 --> 01:04:17,886 He submitted an application saying he was interested in joining that board, yes. 1217 01:04:18,186 --> 01:04:19,236 Yeah. Okay. 1218 01:04:20,932 --> 01:04:23,691 I don't know if I... Was that in the packet? 1219 01:04:26,886 --> 01:04:27,922 No. 1220 01:04:28,536 --> 01:04:33,216 It wasn't anything. It was just an application that just had his name and 1221 01:04:33,277 --> 01:04:34,672 information on it. So like- 1222 01:04:34,672 --> 01:04:38,994 A citizen volunteer form? It was or was not the citizen volunteer form? 1223 01:04:39,804 --> 01:04:40,254 It was. 1224 01:04:40,344 --> 01:04:40,704 It was. 1225 01:04:40,794 --> 01:04:41,214 It was? 1226 01:04:41,244 --> 01:04:41,724 Yeah. 1227 01:04:42,535 --> 01:04:46,794 All right. Good. I'll make a motion to appoint Mr. Dowd to the board. 1228 01:04:47,035 --> 01:04:47,875 There you go. Second. 1229 01:04:48,068 --> 01:04:48,068 Second. 1230 01:04:49,674 --> 01:04:50,454 Roll call, please. 1231 01:04:50,634 --> 01:04:51,263 Mr. Alby? 1232 01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:51,565 Yes. 1233 01:04:51,879 --> 01:04:52,525 Mr. Heller? 1234 01:04:52,674 --> 01:04:52,914 Yes. 1235 01:04:53,244 --> 01:04:53,844 Mr. Muller? 1236 01:04:54,414 --> 01:04:54,429 Aye. 1237 01:04:54,444 --> 01:04:55,134 Mr. Panico? 1238 01:04:55,224 --> 01:04:55,464 Yes. 1239 01:04:55,794 --> 01:04:56,589 Mayor Hoffa? 1240 01:04:56,964 --> 01:05:02,694 Aye. Last is number 21, resolution adopting an amended Remington Township 1241 01:05:02,815 --> 01:05:07,854 social media policy. Jim, we've done something similar, but this is an update. 1242 01:05:07,944 --> 01:05:10,285 Could you just highlight what you have? 1243 01:05:10,614 --> 01:05:15,984 Yeah. Since the last update, the police department wanted to migrate because they 1244 01:05:16,014 --> 01:05:20,275 have the ability to administer their own Facebook page and accept comments. 1245 01:05:21,114 --> 01:05:25,254 We removed the Office of Emergency Management site, which hasn't been used for some 1246 01:05:25,344 --> 01:05:30,594 time, limited those who can post to 1247 01:05:30,864 --> 01:05:34,254 employees and committee-appointed volunteers. 1248 01:05:35,035 --> 01:05:39,625 Those are the largest changes to the policy. 1249 01:05:39,849 --> 01:05:39,849 Okay. 1250 01:05:39,864 --> 01:05:43,884 There might've been some other typos, but other than that, there's nothing 1251 01:05:44,004 --> 01:05:44,664 substantial. 1252 01:05:45,114 --> 01:05:50,934 So Jim, in the resolution, it talks about the new webmaster. 1253 01:05:50,994 --> 01:05:53,035 Have you determined who the new webmaster will be? 1254 01:05:53,379 --> 01:05:57,324 We know who that person is. They assist with our site, the website. 1255 01:05:58,014 --> 01:06:02,125 And it also talks about the township administrator's designated appointee. 1256 01:06:02,544 --> 01:06:03,924 Who is that person to be? 1257 01:06:05,604 --> 01:06:07,764 Are you talking for the local township site? 1258 01:06:07,794 --> 01:06:08,094 Right. 1259 01:06:08,530 --> 01:06:11,004 That's one of our employees, Amanda Jessamine. 1260 01:06:12,504 --> 01:06:12,593 Okay. 1261 01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:14,004 She's the administrator. 1262 01:06:14,754 --> 01:06:17,604 And is there also a backup or a second person, or...? 1263 01:06:19,525 --> 01:06:20,634 Each site has... 1264 01:06:22,554 --> 01:06:26,394 I'm trying to think off the top of my head. Right now there is no backup. 1265 01:06:27,204 --> 01:06:32,634 Okay. One of the other concerns is there doesn't seem to be a process as to 1266 01:06:32,694 --> 01:06:36,144 how approval gets made for content. 1267 01:06:36,504 --> 01:06:38,905 Who's actually going to be approving it and placing it on 1268 01:06:40,405 --> 01:06:40,944 the sites? 1269 01:06:42,025 --> 01:06:45,684 So Amanda does that. That's part of her job. 1270 01:06:46,734 --> 01:06:47,664 Her sole discretion? 1271 01:06:48,144 --> 01:06:52,194 She does most of the posting, so everything passes across her desk. 1272 01:06:52,254 --> 01:06:55,494 If she has any questions, she can ask me. I'm the final authority. 1273 01:06:57,174 --> 01:06:58,839 But you're not reviewing everything that goes on the site. 1274 01:06:58,854 --> 01:07:00,414 I don't review every single post, no. 1275 01:07:05,844 --> 01:07:10,164 There's a workflow that's working well today. 1276 01:07:10,704 --> 01:07:10,839 Mm-hmm. 1277 01:07:10,854 --> 01:07:16,464 I don't want to sit here and beat something up if we've got a process that works 1278 01:07:16,525 --> 01:07:20,155 well. I think what this is doing is this is undoing some of the issues that we 1279 01:07:20,214 --> 01:07:22,464 created when we established this policy. 1280 01:07:23,094 --> 01:07:27,565 One of those issues being the police had a lot of information and outreach via 1281 01:07:28,104 --> 01:07:30,834 comments and messages, and those were then disabled. 1282 01:07:31,794 --> 01:07:35,544 So I don't want to over-engineer something when it's a... 1283 01:07:36,414 --> 01:07:38,875 I don't want to create a problem just to find a solution for it. 1284 01:07:41,905 --> 01:07:42,144 Jack? 1285 01:07:42,429 --> 01:07:45,684 My questions and concerns are regarding the previous policy where there was a lot 1286 01:07:45,744 --> 01:07:51,565 of data that was not processed and not placed on those sites when it's 1287 01:07:51,593 --> 01:07:56,334 requested by either a volunteer board or a fellow 1288 01:07:57,804 --> 01:08:01,884 municipal employee, and it was vetted by others and not put on the site. 1289 01:08:01,944 --> 01:08:02,934 That's where my concern is. 1290 01:08:03,594 --> 01:08:03,655 Okay. 1291 01:08:03,714 --> 01:08:07,839 Who's actually making these decisions, and what information is being removed and 1292 01:08:07,884 --> 01:08:09,084 prevented from being placed on there? 1293 01:08:09,804 --> 01:08:13,944 I'm not familiar with anything that was requested to be posted and was not posted. 1294 01:08:15,834 --> 01:08:17,574 I heard from several people it did happen, so. 1295 01:08:19,735 --> 01:08:19,914 Okay. 1296 01:08:19,974 --> 01:08:20,785 Those are my concerns. 1297 01:08:22,704 --> 01:08:26,394 Well, I would think anything, Amanda, if she's the prime on this, finds 1298 01:08:26,874 --> 01:08:30,729 controversial or something, she should, I think she does, go to you or would go to 1299 01:08:30,775 --> 01:08:32,245 you for oversight, right? 1300 01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:32,694 That's correct. 1301 01:08:32,995 --> 01:08:36,653 Yeah, which is appropriate. All right, do I have a motion? 1302 01:08:37,074 --> 01:08:38,364 Well, I got one thing, Mayor. 1303 01:08:38,379 --> 01:08:38,379 Sure. 1304 01:08:38,979 --> 01:08:42,864 I'm going to also just vote against this because of the comment policy alone. 1305 01:08:43,464 --> 01:08:48,084 We do not allow comments on our township page. I fundamentally disagree with that. 1306 01:08:48,144 --> 01:08:53,035 It's a place for our residents to reach out to us, ask questions, and get answers. 1307 01:08:53,995 --> 01:08:56,815 By disabling it, you're not being transparent. 1308 01:08:57,114 --> 01:09:02,664 I do not agree with that one bit. And Jim, in Amanda's 1309 01:09:02,785 --> 01:09:06,323 absence, there should be backup. There should be. 1310 01:09:09,504 --> 01:09:09,864 Okay. 1311 01:09:09,910 --> 01:09:10,329 There'll be backup. 1312 01:09:10,405 --> 01:09:13,929 So those backups are the OEM coordinator. 1313 01:09:14,259 --> 01:09:14,259 Yeah. 1314 01:09:14,275 --> 01:09:19,209 But typically, those messages he's going to post are going to be on road closings- 1315 01:09:19,944 --> 01:09:20,035 Yeah 1316 01:09:20,065 --> 01:09:22,525 ... storm issues, things of those, that nature. 1317 01:09:22,854 --> 01:09:23,469 No, if Amanda's on vacation- 1318 01:09:23,469 --> 01:09:28,209 And the webmaster can also do the posting, but that's going to be strictly Monday 1319 01:09:28,254 --> 01:09:29,379 through Friday business hours. 1320 01:09:29,485 --> 01:09:34,134 Yeah. If Amanda's on vacation for a week, there should be somebody to fill in 1321 01:09:34,224 --> 01:09:37,914 because, for example, last week, there were a lot of things that were not posted 1322 01:09:37,929 --> 01:09:39,084 that probably should've been posted. 1323 01:09:39,294 --> 01:09:43,688 Lane closures, striping, the bridge on Barley Sheep that's going to be down for two 1324 01:09:43,764 --> 01:09:47,334 weeks. There's a couple of big things that were not posted that should've been 1325 01:09:47,394 --> 01:09:50,454 posted. I'm not blaming Amanda. She was on vacation. 1326 01:09:50,815 --> 01:09:55,344 But there should be a backup to ensure timely flow of communication. 1327 01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:55,824 Agreed. 1328 01:09:56,214 --> 01:09:56,469 Thank you. 1329 01:09:56,514 --> 01:10:00,654 All right. I think we'll work on that. All right. Do we have a motion to proceed? 1330 01:10:02,304 --> 01:10:03,384 So moved. 1331 01:10:03,474 --> 01:10:04,254 Do I have a second? 1332 01:10:04,824 --> 01:10:05,184 Second. 1333 01:10:05,454 --> 01:10:06,594 Okay. Roll call, please. 1334 01:10:07,404 --> 01:10:08,124 Mr. Alby? 1335 01:10:08,245 --> 01:10:08,454 Yes. 1336 01:10:08,664 --> 01:10:09,264 Mr. Heller? 1337 01:10:09,564 --> 01:10:09,745 No. 1338 01:10:11,814 --> 01:10:12,444 Mr. Muller? 1339 01:10:12,684 --> 01:10:12,894 No. 1340 01:10:13,584 --> 01:10:14,484 Mr. Panico? 1341 01:10:17,424 --> 01:10:17,604 No. 1342 01:10:19,824 --> 01:10:20,604 Mayor Hoffa? 1343 01:10:20,664 --> 01:10:21,024 Aye. 1344 01:10:21,698 --> 01:10:23,035 Okay, that doesn't pass. 1345 01:10:23,514 --> 01:10:29,394 Okay. All right. We're going on. Next item is 1346 01:10:29,514 --> 01:10:33,174 new business, and we've got two items. We have two special events. 1347 01:10:34,164 --> 01:10:38,814 Special event application for approval, Anytime Fitness grand opening, which is 1348 01:10:38,844 --> 01:10:43,674 Saturday, September 26th, 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM. 1349 01:10:43,734 --> 01:10:45,894 Rain day to Saturday, October 3rd. 1350 01:10:48,684 --> 01:10:49,794 Did that get moved? 1351 01:10:51,234 --> 01:10:55,974 That was supposed to be the 19th, I thought. But the 26th is better for me now. 1352 01:10:57,834 --> 01:10:59,934 I'll make a motion to approve the special event application. 1353 01:11:00,354 --> 01:11:00,684 Second. 1354 01:11:02,304 --> 01:11:03,174 Okay, roll call, please. 1355 01:11:03,354 --> 01:11:04,014 Mr. Alby? 1356 01:11:04,194 --> 01:11:04,374 Yes. 1357 01:11:04,464 --> 01:11:05,063 Mr. Heller? 1358 01:11:05,304 --> 01:11:05,544 Yes. 1359 01:11:05,633 --> 01:11:06,204 Mr. Muller? 1360 01:11:06,234 --> 01:11:06,714 Aye. 1361 01:11:06,758 --> 01:11:07,344 Mr. Panico? 1362 01:11:07,464 --> 01:11:07,614 Yes. 1363 01:11:07,883 --> 01:11:08,723 Mayor Hoffa? 1364 01:11:08,813 --> 01:11:14,064 Aye. Okay, number two, special event application for approval, Ready, Set, Go 1365 01:11:14,124 --> 01:11:19,104 Adventures Jersey Gravel Grinder Bike Race, Sunday, September 27th, 1366 01:11:20,004 --> 01:11:22,523 12:00 PM to 4:00 PM, and no rain date. 1367 01:11:23,934 --> 01:11:26,454 Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the special event application. 1368 01:11:26,694 --> 01:11:26,964 Second. 1369 01:11:27,384 --> 01:11:28,314 Okay, roll call, please. 1370 01:11:28,524 --> 01:11:29,184 Mr. Alby? 1371 01:11:29,844 --> 01:11:30,054 Yes. 1372 01:11:30,174 --> 01:11:30,774 Mr. Heller? 1373 01:11:30,984 --> 01:11:31,194 Yes. 1374 01:11:31,254 --> 01:11:31,854 Mr. Muller? 1375 01:11:32,064 --> 01:11:32,289 Aye. 1376 01:11:32,304 --> 01:11:32,904 Mr. Panico? 1377 01:11:32,964 --> 01:11:33,354 Yes. 1378 01:11:33,384 --> 01:11:33,834 Mayor Hoffa? 1379 01:11:34,254 --> 01:11:34,524 Aye. 1380 01:11:36,264 --> 01:11:40,134 Okay. That takes us through our general agenda. Now we go into reports. 1381 01:11:40,434 --> 01:11:42,864 First is administrator's report. Jim? 1382 01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:49,974 As Committee Man Muller mentioned, the county bridge that's located on Barley Sheep 1383 01:11:50,035 --> 01:11:55,674 Road, intersection on Pleasant Run, is going to be closed for the next two 1384 01:11:55,734 --> 01:12:01,404 weeks, from 8:30 AM to 2:30 PM. It's closed to all traffic, and that's to 1385 01:12:01,495 --> 01:12:05,995 repair steel corrugated decking, guardrail, and the wing wall due to damage from 1386 01:12:06,654 --> 01:12:09,774 motor vehicle crashes. That's all I have, Mayor. 1387 01:12:10,014 --> 01:12:14,064 And that bridge is supposed to be replaced and widened at some time in the near 1388 01:12:14,154 --> 01:12:17,574 future, and then it's going to be down for a lot longer than two weeks. 1389 01:12:17,874 --> 01:12:17,889 It is. 1390 01:12:17,904 --> 01:12:19,644 They were talking about a year of being down. 1391 01:12:20,304 --> 01:12:22,434 That's going to be a major inconvenience. 1392 01:12:23,245 --> 01:12:26,529 Obviously, as the county's doing that, obviously, as we get more information, that 1393 01:12:26,574 --> 01:12:30,594 will be publicized, but just know that that's happening. 1394 01:12:31,014 --> 01:12:36,294 Yeah. All I know is 2027. We'll try to find out more as we can with county. 1395 01:12:39,354 --> 01:12:41,245 Okay. Chris, attorney's report? 1396 01:12:41,634 --> 01:12:43,433 No report from me, Mayor. 1397 01:12:43,464 --> 01:12:48,160 Okay. We do committee reports. First is John Alby's Library Services, Municipal 1398 01:12:48,234 --> 01:12:50,874 Court, Social Services, and Support Housing. 1399 01:12:50,995 --> 01:12:52,689 Nothing from me. 1400 01:12:52,764 --> 01:12:53,035 Okay. 1401 01:12:54,354 --> 01:12:58,164 John Heller, Board of Health, Reading and Lebanon Sewer Authority, Environmental 1402 01:12:58,254 --> 01:13:00,624 Commission, Historic Preservation, Museums. 1403 01:13:01,704 --> 01:13:03,504 Just an update on the Reading and Lebanon Sewer. 1404 01:13:03,564 --> 01:13:06,324 They've had a couple of failures over at the plant. 1405 01:13:06,954 --> 01:13:10,824 The rotor has been inactive since June. 1406 01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:13,104 We've had some issues with our ammonia content. 1407 01:13:13,149 --> 01:13:16,614 That's under control, working with the DEP on that, and it's going to be repaired 1408 01:13:16,674 --> 01:13:20,754 within the next few weeks. And then we recently had a pump failure that we are also 1409 01:13:21,624 --> 01:13:23,454 working around getting that repaired as well. 1410 01:13:23,889 --> 01:13:26,844 But it was indicative of the fact that some of this equipment is very old and needs 1411 01:13:26,874 --> 01:13:30,894 to be updated and upgraded, and that's why some of the increased fees associated 1412 01:13:30,924 --> 01:13:33,654 with our sewer were put in place so that we could be better prepared to handle 1413 01:13:33,684 --> 01:13:35,124 these situations moving forward. 1414 01:13:37,338 --> 01:13:41,238 Okay. For me, Jordan Hulsbosch, Ag Committee. 1415 01:13:41,388 --> 01:13:44,988 I think we have our next meeting on the 16th of this month. 1416 01:13:45,978 --> 01:13:49,818 Open Space Board, we've been doing a number of walks, and we continue to do that 1417 01:13:49,878 --> 01:13:50,959 through the rest of the year. 1418 01:13:52,308 --> 01:13:57,618 I think September 18th, we are at the Dale Haber Greenway by Old 28. 1419 01:13:58,278 --> 01:14:01,938 October, we're going to be at Lochmeir, which is near Redington Middle School. 1420 01:14:02,898 --> 01:14:07,158 November is going to be Rocky Road by Indian Purchase, and December's going to be 1421 01:14:07,188 --> 01:14:10,788 Round Mountain in Stanton. So every month, we have volunteers from our Open Space 1422 01:14:10,848 --> 01:14:12,709 Board. They go out and lead public walks. 1423 01:14:13,908 --> 01:14:17,448 We also had a Girl Scout Troop 8440. 1424 01:14:18,348 --> 01:14:22,878 They did a special walk on Sonds, which is Rockville Mills, and that was to 1425 01:14:22,908 --> 01:14:27,678 culminate from a bridge-building project they did as a group. 1426 01:14:27,738 --> 01:14:31,459 So they did a great job. I heard a lot of feedback on how good the bridges were, 1427 01:14:32,148 --> 01:14:35,959 and I think that was a few weeks ago they ran their walk. 1428 01:14:38,478 --> 01:14:42,678 Parks, we're probably going to look at additional work in October when the weather 1429 01:14:42,768 --> 01:14:47,328 turns, if we can do some additional planting on our parks, our trailheads. 1430 01:14:47,388 --> 01:14:52,008 So I'll be talking to Ron Christie probably in two weeks to find out what's in 1431 01:14:52,038 --> 01:14:53,718 store for the fourth quarter. 1432 01:14:55,459 --> 01:15:00,198 I think I mentioned earlier, we're going to be looking at federal funding. 1433 01:15:00,258 --> 01:15:04,848 I'm working on a tranche of money for Federal Highlands in the next week. 1434 01:15:04,938 --> 01:15:09,498 We need to put an application in by next Wednesday, so that way we can allocate 1435 01:15:09,588 --> 01:15:12,078 money for future projects. So that's in the works. 1436 01:15:14,358 --> 01:15:16,248 I've been working with Fish and Wildlife. 1437 01:15:16,338 --> 01:15:17,988 They are putting up cameras 1438 01:15:19,459 --> 01:15:22,459 at various wildlife locations in town. 1439 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:27,258 So we have current and future wildlife corridors, and we want to track what's 1440 01:15:27,348 --> 01:15:33,228 there. We've had, I think, indications of bobcats on Lazy Brook. 1441 01:15:33,498 --> 01:15:38,463 We've had bobcats up north, and it's not just things like bobcats or bears, but 1442 01:15:38,478 --> 01:15:41,959 it's looking at everything from wood turtles and endangered species. 1443 01:15:42,018 --> 01:15:45,348 So we're going to try to track more of that throughout Redington. 1444 01:15:45,438 --> 01:15:50,988 So that's it for me. Next, Adam Muller, engineering, roads, building and grounds, 1445 01:15:51,049 --> 01:15:55,698 recycling, construction, code enforcement, emergency services, fire official, 1446 01:15:55,968 --> 01:15:56,628 engineer's report. 1447 01:15:58,128 --> 01:16:02,508 DBW, well, we haven't met in about a month because the way our meeting schedule 1448 01:16:02,568 --> 01:16:05,209 worked, and we've had some pretty wild weather over the last month. 1449 01:16:05,223 --> 01:16:10,308 DBW has been doing a great job keeping the roads clear, all the branches down, 1450 01:16:10,698 --> 01:16:14,508 putting up flood gates when needed. So they've done a great job. 1451 01:16:14,568 --> 01:16:17,058 If you see them out and about, please give them wide berth. 1452 01:16:17,088 --> 01:16:20,418 They're also still cutting the grass on the side of the road, so please slow down 1453 01:16:20,478 --> 01:16:22,549 and just be careful. 1454 01:16:25,459 --> 01:16:28,608 White House Fire has a new Facebook page. 1455 01:16:28,698 --> 01:16:31,518 Their old one was hijacked, if any of you followed it. 1456 01:16:33,288 --> 01:16:37,068 But they got a new Facebook page, and they're back, and they post some pretty good 1457 01:16:37,128 --> 01:16:41,598 content on calls and stuff that they go on. So pay attention to that. 1458 01:16:41,628 --> 01:16:44,808 They also took delivery of their new truck. 1459 01:16:45,558 --> 01:16:46,608 I think it's getting 1460 01:16:47,959 --> 01:16:52,608 final-- They brought it back, but now they're getting some final bells and whistles 1461 01:16:52,638 --> 01:16:56,598 put on it, and they're going to be having some kind of little ceremony when they 1462 01:16:56,658 --> 01:16:57,618 get that new engine in. 1463 01:16:58,968 --> 01:17:04,578 So that is great. And last thing on my agenda is hunting starts this 1464 01:17:04,608 --> 01:17:07,158 Saturday, September 12th, 1465 01:17:08,418 --> 01:17:13,848 for fall bow. So pay attention. A lot of our properties are hunted. 1466 01:17:13,968 --> 01:17:18,468 I imagine our social media page and website will be updated with all that 1467 01:17:18,528 --> 01:17:24,288 information. So pay attention. All of our open space properties are still 100% 1468 01:17:24,348 --> 01:17:28,068 available, open. Just wear bright colors and walk around. 1469 01:17:28,128 --> 01:17:29,808 You should not even see a hunter. 1470 01:17:31,098 --> 01:17:32,598 If you see them, they're doing their job. 1471 01:17:33,348 --> 01:17:39,258 So just know that hunting starts this Saturday, and it runs until 1472 01:17:39,438 --> 01:17:40,218 mid-February. 1473 01:17:40,668 --> 01:17:43,638 And the timing during the week for Sundays, there is- 1474 01:17:43,758 --> 01:17:47,328 There's no hunting on Sundays on municipally owned property. 1475 01:17:47,658 --> 01:17:48,018 Okay. 1476 01:17:49,668 --> 01:17:50,388 So, yeah. 1477 01:17:50,898 --> 01:17:55,848 Thank you. Vincent Panico, planning board, zoning, police, traffic safety, finance. 1478 01:17:57,049 --> 01:18:01,683 I think you guys heard a lot about finance tonight, so that we're moving forward, 1479 01:18:01,848 --> 01:18:05,898 kind of unpacking funding sources for the rest of the year. 1480 01:18:06,558 --> 01:18:09,978 We're beginning to look at next year's budget and how that's going to start coming 1481 01:18:10,008 --> 01:18:14,643 together with some of the appropriations that we've basically committed to and what 1482 01:18:14,808 --> 01:18:18,888 appropriation capture will look like. So hopefully, that process gets started soon. 1483 01:18:20,118 --> 01:18:25,848 Planning and zoning have looked at the Block 418 property, but that's all 1484 01:18:25,968 --> 01:18:30,648 been in your packets. On the police side, a couple of things. 1485 01:18:30,799 --> 01:18:34,848 One, the new cars are in. Three of the new cars are in. 1486 01:18:34,908 --> 01:18:37,938 So we have three Tahoes that are sent out for upfit. 1487 01:18:38,598 --> 01:18:42,513 So if you've seen the one Tahoe out on the road, we have three more that are going 1488 01:18:42,513 --> 01:18:45,768 to be similar to that. Likely we'll have a light bar on top. 1489 01:18:45,828 --> 01:18:48,768 That's just a money-saving method right there. 1490 01:18:49,338 --> 01:18:54,258 But they're coming in, and we're waiting on delivery of the Durangos as well 1491 01:18:54,288 --> 01:18:56,748 because we should have some of those on the way. 1492 01:18:57,168 --> 01:19:02,253 As a reminder, school is back in session, so make sure you are abiding by 1493 01:19:03,678 --> 01:19:09,078 the school bus laws. You wouldn't believe how often we get people who run school 1494 01:19:09,108 --> 01:19:13,848 buses. Last year was over 100. There's 180 days in a school year. 1495 01:19:13,968 --> 01:19:15,258 We had over 100 people run 1496 01:19:16,459 --> 01:19:19,038 the school buses. Our school buses are equipped with cameras. 1497 01:19:19,622 --> 01:19:23,238 So just because you don't get stopped in the moment doesn't mean a ticket doesn't 1498 01:19:23,268 --> 01:19:27,288 come in the mail. I will tell you, they take it very seriously. 1499 01:19:28,248 --> 01:19:32,568 Not only do our police department take it seriously, our judge takes it seriously, 1500 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:36,948 and this entire government body takes it very seriously because it is the safety of 1501 01:19:36,978 --> 01:19:42,108 our students. So if you see a school bus that is orange, don't try to beat it to 1502 01:19:42,198 --> 01:19:46,908 red. It is not like a traffic light. So be mindful of those. 1503 01:19:47,688 --> 01:19:51,273 If you're interested, the police department did post their annual, sorry, their 1504 01:19:51,348 --> 01:19:55,368 monthly statistics that we saw a summer softness. 1505 01:19:55,998 --> 01:20:00,978 So when we look at the kind of calls for duty, when we look at the traffic stops, 1506 01:20:01,308 --> 01:20:05,988 those have been trending in a great direction, especially now that we have a 1507 01:20:06,018 --> 01:20:10,549 traffic enforcement team that's dedicated to the hours when traffic is happening 1508 01:20:10,608 --> 01:20:14,463 most frequently. But like I said, it was August. There was some softness. 1509 01:20:14,508 --> 01:20:17,448 People are on vacation. People are sort of slowing down, taking it easy. 1510 01:20:18,138 --> 01:20:20,778 So we'll see as the trends return here in September. 1511 01:20:21,768 --> 01:20:25,308 Okay, thank you. Next item on the agenda is comments from the public. 1512 01:20:27,678 --> 01:20:28,428 Yes, sir. 1513 01:20:30,318 --> 01:20:31,308 Daniel Dorff, 1514 01:20:33,438 --> 01:20:35,148 1206 Mountain Road, 1515 01:20:36,948 --> 01:20:40,248 Lebanon, which is right down the road, White House- 1516 01:20:40,368 --> 01:20:41,838 We don't need the address. 1517 01:20:42,858 --> 01:20:46,068 Okay, whatever. Either way, I just- 1518 01:20:46,082 --> 01:20:48,258 It's all good. It may be complicated for us because what we have to do is if 1519 01:20:48,318 --> 01:20:51,063 there's certain people that we can't have their address out there. 1520 01:20:51,138 --> 01:20:52,908 Hey, I'm going to make it real simple. 1521 01:20:53,688 --> 01:20:58,698 I just want to say I'm the commander of White House American Legion. 1522 01:20:58,818 --> 01:21:03,858 Our American Legion baseball team won the states, won the regionals. 1523 01:21:04,278 --> 01:21:08,373 We went to the World Series, and I want to thank- 1524 01:21:13,188 --> 01:21:19,128 I want to thank the support that Adam Muller and 1525 01:21:19,218 --> 01:21:20,418 our candidates, 1526 01:21:23,268 --> 01:21:28,038 Eric and Trevor, showed in the state tournament, 1527 01:21:29,209 --> 01:21:34,638 and it's pretty sad that there was no other 1528 01:21:36,858 --> 01:21:42,108 people recognition from the township committee. 1529 01:21:42,198 --> 01:21:43,968 Thank you so much. Have a great night. 1530 01:21:44,718 --> 01:21:49,549 I'll speak to that real quick. There'll be a resolution on the 1531 01:21:50,209 --> 01:21:51,558 agenda. 1532 01:21:52,518 --> 01:21:53,597 Resolution? Confirmation. 1533 01:21:53,808 --> 01:21:59,658 Confirmation, okay. On the agenda to be worked out at the next 1534 01:21:59,688 --> 01:22:00,078 meeting. 1535 01:22:02,148 --> 01:22:06,348 I was away in August when this all happened. I watched all the games. 1536 01:22:06,978 --> 01:22:09,108 My son has a very good friend on the team. 1537 01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:14,209 I know other kids on the team as well, and my son plays for the Flemington American 1538 01:22:14,238 --> 01:22:16,758 Legion team. So certainly rooting for them. 1539 01:22:18,049 --> 01:22:21,828 Paid for the ESPN+ package to watch the games, all that business. 1540 01:22:22,728 --> 01:22:24,438 When I came back, I talked to 1541 01:22:25,818 --> 01:22:30,138 Jim, and he asked me to put together some language that we can include in the 1542 01:22:30,168 --> 01:22:35,718 resolution. Sent that over. There's going to be a presentational, I guess, 1543 01:22:35,959 --> 01:22:38,568 PowerPoint type thing out on the TV there. 1544 01:22:38,808 --> 01:22:41,538 I sent some photos over today for that as well. 1545 01:22:41,628 --> 01:22:44,178 So unfortunately, you didn't hear that, but 1546 01:22:45,528 --> 01:22:47,733 that'll be the next- 1547 01:22:48,468 --> 01:22:51,648 The other thing of that, too, which is pretty interesting, is the starting pitcher 1548 01:22:52,008 --> 01:22:53,538 in the final game was actually from Redington. 1549 01:22:53,598 --> 01:22:56,988 So just because it was the White House American Legion, there were folks from kind 1550 01:22:57,018 --> 01:23:00,063 of the greater White House area. It wasn't like literally limited or confined to 1551 01:23:00,108 --> 01:23:04,038 this town. But the starting pitcher in the final game was from Redington. 1552 01:23:04,068 --> 01:23:05,628 So great work for those kids. 1553 01:23:06,438 --> 01:23:06,738 Thank you. 1554 01:23:08,292 --> 01:23:09,732 Bob Schoenfeld. 1555 01:23:10,992 --> 01:23:16,062 I have a couple of things. This 101 Main Street 1556 01:23:16,332 --> 01:23:17,232 proposal, 1557 01:23:18,522 --> 01:23:24,072 as far as I'm concerned, is not in keeping with rural 1558 01:23:24,612 --> 01:23:30,222 White House Station or White House, as it may be, and that goes 1559 01:23:30,282 --> 01:23:34,452 back as far as my involvement 1560 01:23:36,282 --> 01:23:40,572 in, it was probably 2005, 1561 01:23:42,853 --> 01:23:48,343 when the local rescue squad had acquired the 1562 01:23:48,402 --> 01:23:53,892 funding for a new building since they had outgrown what 1563 01:23:53,982 --> 01:23:59,562 existed, and had still outgrown. But they had 1564 01:23:59,593 --> 01:24:01,032 acquired funding, 1565 01:24:02,712 --> 01:24:08,262 so that it would not cost the township or the residents anything 1566 01:24:08,622 --> 01:24:13,782 to put up a new building. They were refused by the township 1567 01:24:14,292 --> 01:24:19,633 for the reason that the new building was not in 1568 01:24:19,752 --> 01:24:24,642 keeping with the appearance of White House 1569 01:24:25,332 --> 01:24:25,962 Station. 1570 01:24:27,883 --> 01:24:31,722 What is affordable housing going to look like? 1571 01:24:32,712 --> 01:24:33,327 Beautiful. 1572 01:24:34,242 --> 01:24:38,472 Have things changed that much in 20 years? 1573 01:24:40,722 --> 01:24:46,542 And if you look at the fire department, that building 1574 01:24:46,633 --> 01:24:47,442 was new, 1575 01:24:49,152 --> 01:24:55,002 and that was not unsimilar to what the rescue squad 1576 01:24:55,062 --> 01:25:00,792 was proposing. Is that in keeping with White House 1577 01:25:00,883 --> 01:25:06,492 Station historically? No, not in my opinion. 1578 01:25:06,702 --> 01:25:08,052 Or the post office. 1579 01:25:09,582 --> 01:25:14,742 That's what the township committee at that time said 1580 01:25:15,432 --> 01:25:20,292 fit or did not. So what is 1581 01:25:22,542 --> 01:25:28,302 however many unit on the corner, which is where we were also 1582 01:25:28,392 --> 01:25:33,282 at that time looking to relocate the rescue squad. 1583 01:25:35,502 --> 01:25:40,182 But regardless of all that, the bottom line is, 1584 01:25:41,383 --> 01:25:47,052 what is White House Station going to look like with affordable housing 1585 01:25:48,642 --> 01:25:52,272 on Route 22 and Main Street? 1586 01:25:53,682 --> 01:25:58,843 Never mind what it does to the neighbors, the cemetery, the traffic 1587 01:25:59,202 --> 01:25:59,742 flow. 1588 01:26:01,572 --> 01:26:07,272 That's what I meant. I do request in 1589 01:26:07,902 --> 01:26:13,122 the agendas as has been 1590 01:26:13,633 --> 01:26:19,482 done at some point, that addresses be associated with the 1591 01:26:19,603 --> 01:26:21,491 block and lot numbers. 1592 01:26:22,872 --> 01:26:28,572 Half of them on tonight exist there, half don't. 1593 01:26:32,052 --> 01:26:36,252 It's just very difficult to look up the block and lot numbers. 1594 01:26:37,542 --> 01:26:37,872 Okay. 1595 01:26:39,792 --> 01:26:41,292 And 1596 01:26:44,353 --> 01:26:46,722 as far as the 1597 01:26:49,812 --> 01:26:50,862 development 1598 01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:54,343 goes on the corner, 1599 01:26:56,082 --> 01:27:01,603 then if the township has no design to see 1600 01:27:01,662 --> 01:27:06,072 affordable housing in that particular location, 1601 01:27:07,482 --> 01:27:13,272 why don't they then change the zoning back to what it was? 1602 01:27:21,012 --> 01:27:22,843 Can I get a response to that? 1603 01:27:25,662 --> 01:27:25,677 No. 1604 01:27:25,932 --> 01:27:26,502 Just comment. 1605 01:27:27,462 --> 01:27:27,702 Okay. 1606 01:27:28,692 --> 01:27:33,612 Is it possible to do the address? Is that something we can incorporate into future? 1607 01:27:33,672 --> 01:27:38,052 Okay, that's a very good point. We will look to do that, so we have addresses for 1608 01:27:38,202 --> 01:27:40,633 what block, so you can find things easier. 1609 01:27:41,232 --> 01:27:44,832 Appreciated. I've been trying to do that for several years. 1610 01:27:45,312 --> 01:27:45,912 Okay. 1611 01:27:46,542 --> 01:27:47,682 And last 1612 01:27:48,883 --> 01:27:54,417 that I have is regarding the sewers and the increase in the 1613 01:27:54,522 --> 01:28:00,012 bill. Please bear with me because I was not able to 1614 01:28:00,222 --> 01:28:05,997 attend the other meetings. At this point, I ran some figures, 1615 01:28:06,432 --> 01:28:11,802 and my understanding was that last year's sewer deficit was 1616 01:28:11,832 --> 01:28:17,682 $62,000. Well, as near as I can 1617 01:28:17,742 --> 01:28:22,932 tell, we have roughly 6,500 homes 1618 01:28:23,652 --> 01:28:29,472 in Reddington Township. So that $62,000 1619 01:28:30,192 --> 01:28:34,722 comes out to $9.54 per home. 1620 01:28:36,312 --> 01:28:41,742 So the adjustment was roughly, and I know it 1621 01:28:41,862 --> 01:28:46,362 varied, but roughly $220 per household, 1622 01:28:47,682 --> 01:28:50,142 which then said 1623 01:28:52,093 --> 01:28:53,292 it would've been... 1624 01:28:56,832 --> 01:28:57,462 I'm sorry. 1625 01:28:59,532 --> 01:29:02,052 That brings it to 1626 01:29:02,952 --> 01:29:06,972 $1,000,368 1627 01:29:08,202 --> 01:29:10,242 additional being collected, 1628 01:29:12,462 --> 01:29:17,862 minus the $62,000 deficit leaves $1.3 1629 01:29:17,892 --> 01:29:19,062 million. 1630 01:29:20,472 --> 01:29:26,082 Where is that going? Okay, if it's not going to build sewer 1631 01:29:26,442 --> 01:29:26,802 or 1632 01:29:28,272 --> 01:29:33,372 whatever utilities necessary for this affordable housing, 1633 01:29:34,422 --> 01:29:37,331 where is that $1.3 million going? 1634 01:29:38,922 --> 01:29:39,222 Okay. 1635 01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:43,122 I can't answer that, though Vincent did a good job. 1636 01:29:43,572 --> 01:29:48,133 But we have other folks that are more involved in the sewer, so maybe we get a 1637 01:29:48,192 --> 01:29:49,302 comment. But thank you. 1638 01:29:53,292 --> 01:29:56,232 Adam or Jonathan, any comment on 1639 01:29:57,762 --> 01:29:58,962 the increase or something? 1640 01:29:59,383 --> 01:30:05,262 The deficit was much larger than $62,000, and the additional cost is partly 1641 01:30:05,353 --> 01:30:09,732 in anticipation of the additional cost due to our 50-year-old system that is now 1642 01:30:09,942 --> 01:30:14,353 showing wear, and two of the failures we've already had are planned or direct 1643 01:30:14,412 --> 01:30:16,392 result of that, and that's why we're trying to do that. 1644 01:30:16,542 --> 01:30:20,652 But the $62,000 is not the accurate number for the shortage last year. 1645 01:30:20,922 --> 01:30:24,387 And I don't want to get into this whole, we'll respond to some things but not 1646 01:30:24,432 --> 01:30:24,822 others. 1647 01:30:26,532 --> 01:30:26,922 The 1648 01:30:29,292 --> 01:30:35,082 multiplier is incorrect as well because it's not all 6,500 properties 1649 01:30:35,532 --> 01:30:40,122 across Reddington. It's only the ones in the sewer service area that are paying 1650 01:30:40,302 --> 01:30:44,412 based on the sewer credits. So the revenues are significantly less than the numbers 1651 01:30:44,442 --> 01:30:45,027 we have in there. 1652 01:30:45,282 --> 01:30:47,277 Good, thank you. 1653 01:30:47,322 --> 01:30:48,747 I would just like to comment- 1654 01:30:48,822 --> 01:30:49,737 Can I get your name, please? 1655 01:30:49,843 --> 01:30:53,442 Oh, I'm sorry. You going to get all p****d with me if I guess my name? 1656 01:30:53,593 --> 01:30:55,392 No, we can try it. I don't know. 1657 01:30:55,662 --> 01:30:57,042 Betty Anne Fort. 1658 01:30:57,072 --> 01:30:58,302 Thanks, Betty Anne. 1659 01:30:58,452 --> 01:30:58,677 I'm 1660 01:31:00,192 --> 01:31:06,133 troubled by the irony of the gateway to Reddington 1661 01:31:06,252 --> 01:31:12,162 concept because some of the people who are screaming loudest 1662 01:31:12,222 --> 01:31:17,262 about gateway to Reddington were the same people who rezoned the gateway to 1663 01:31:17,292 --> 01:31:22,812 Reddington for fast food restaurants, among other things, after a group of us had 1664 01:31:23,292 --> 01:31:28,002 done a very careful zoning of what would and wouldn't work there. 1665 01:31:28,062 --> 01:31:31,812 And a fast food restaurant was never mentioned on that corner. 1666 01:31:31,872 --> 01:31:32,277 But 1667 01:31:33,672 --> 01:31:38,457 nobody's talking about the other gateway to Reddington, which is on 202. 1668 01:31:39,343 --> 01:31:45,087 And you come up 202 through farmland and widely spread businesses, 1669 01:31:45,462 --> 01:31:51,042 and you come to beautiful farmland and a very cute little red overpriced food 1670 01:31:51,192 --> 01:31:51,582 store, 1671 01:31:53,262 --> 01:31:57,792 and all of that land, and that's a gateway too. 1672 01:31:57,837 --> 01:32:03,087 And that's probably our more beautiful gateway because it has been preserved and 1673 01:32:03,192 --> 01:32:08,322 has been carefully tended to. So along 1674 01:32:08,532 --> 01:32:12,144 22, I think- I think it is a gateway. 1675 01:32:12,234 --> 01:32:14,245 I think it's one that we have to be careful of. 1676 01:32:14,844 --> 01:32:19,824 I, having sat for what seems like about 30 years, but it was probably only about 1677 01:32:19,944 --> 01:32:25,674 eight, on the Affordable Housing Subcommittee, know that it is possible to 1678 01:32:25,704 --> 01:32:28,434 make affordable housing attractive. 1679 01:32:29,334 --> 01:32:32,184 Take, for example, Nelson Street. 1680 01:32:33,384 --> 01:32:39,084 Of course, the committee considers-- We would go through 1681 01:32:39,174 --> 01:32:44,484 presentations from architects and say, "Well, that could work if they just..." 1682 01:32:45,564 --> 01:32:49,495 We became sub-architects in all of this. 1683 01:32:49,614 --> 01:32:55,374 It is possible to make something of that size look attractive, minimize 1684 01:32:55,404 --> 01:33:00,174 some of the traffic craziness, and certainly some that it was zoned for, 1685 01:33:00,894 --> 01:33:06,594 and use the further lot in, make a sort of pocket park with a 1686 01:33:06,624 --> 01:33:11,394 flag, directions to the cemetery and all of that, and make it a very nice 1687 01:33:13,944 --> 01:33:16,704 gateway to Reddington, one that we could all be proud of. 1688 01:33:17,154 --> 01:33:21,294 I don't think we have to yell at people to have discussions. 1689 01:33:22,374 --> 01:33:24,774 And I also think people need to think about 1690 01:33:26,094 --> 01:33:26,574 how 1691 01:33:28,074 --> 01:33:33,564 there are a lot of gateways into Reddington, and we all have an obligation to take 1692 01:33:33,624 --> 01:33:36,294 care of them and make them attractive. 1693 01:33:36,414 --> 01:33:41,754 But I don't think putting 1,400 housing units on 1694 01:33:41,934 --> 01:33:47,064 202 and Pleasant Run Road, where we serve, is not the best way to have a 1695 01:33:47,123 --> 01:33:51,504 gateway into Reddington. Now, those of you who ever drive through 1696 01:33:53,484 --> 01:33:54,354 the golf course 1697 01:33:56,214 --> 01:33:57,294 and drive out, 1698 01:33:58,524 --> 01:34:02,889 I don't know, the road that goes out to Drayhook, past their package treatment 1699 01:34:02,995 --> 01:34:07,104 plant, know that when the wind is blowing wrong, you know it's there, and that's 1700 01:34:07,164 --> 01:34:12,745 nowhere near 1,400 houses. So I'm not wishing on all those people 1701 01:34:13,164 --> 01:34:18,849 who live in my favorite Reddington four-bedroom central hall colonials along all 1702 01:34:18,864 --> 01:34:24,609 those subdivisions along Pleasant Run Road to have to live with that across the 1703 01:34:24,654 --> 01:34:29,634 street from them, and the smell, and the congestion, and all of that. So thank you. 1704 01:34:29,724 --> 01:34:30,864 But the irony is- 1705 01:34:39,774 --> 01:34:44,035 Hi, Renee Bell. I'm speaking as a private citizen. I'm not representing a board. 1706 01:34:44,904 --> 01:34:48,864 I think when it comes to affordable housing, we can all agree on three different 1707 01:34:48,894 --> 01:34:52,854 things. Our assigned 540 units is just too high. 1708 01:34:53,514 --> 01:34:57,714 We all want what's best for Reddington, and the builder's remedy would be the 1709 01:34:57,774 --> 01:34:58,944 worst-case scenario. 1710 01:35:00,774 --> 01:35:03,684 We're months overdue for our affordable housing plan. 1711 01:35:04,134 --> 01:35:08,904 Do our committee members think fighting over these locations make it less or more 1712 01:35:08,964 --> 01:35:12,624 likely that we're going to have lawsuits filed against us? 1713 01:35:13,104 --> 01:35:16,644 And do you think going back and forth between the plans makes it more or less 1714 01:35:16,734 --> 01:35:22,644 likely we end up with builder's remedy? Do we want builder's remedy? 1715 01:35:23,245 --> 01:35:27,594 Maybe some of us do. But let's not play political games with the town. 1716 01:35:29,094 --> 01:35:34,614 I'm also concerned about the Darragh Cemetery near 101 Main Street. 1717 01:35:34,899 --> 01:35:40,194 And I'm wondering if we can require the developer to fence off the cemetery to 1718 01:35:40,224 --> 01:35:41,004 protect it. 1719 01:35:42,474 --> 01:35:44,214 If we could request that. 1720 01:35:46,644 --> 01:35:52,164 And the last thing I want to say is, "Drive My History" on 1721 01:35:52,254 --> 01:35:58,164 PBS actually had an episode, 30 minutes, about Taylor's Mill, and it 1722 01:35:58,224 --> 01:36:02,754 was called "Following the Flower." And if you haven't seen it, I hope you watch it. 1723 01:36:02,995 --> 01:36:06,549 It was fantastic. They did a great job. Thank you. 1724 01:36:06,549 --> 01:36:10,734 There's a presentation on Taylor's Mill at Bones Stickney on the 26th. 1725 01:36:10,794 --> 01:36:11,094 Yes. 1726 01:36:11,304 --> 01:36:12,849 2:00 PM. 1727 01:36:12,984 --> 01:36:14,844 26th, 3:00 PM, correct? 1728 01:36:14,934 --> 01:36:15,564 It's a Saturday. 1729 01:36:15,714 --> 01:36:16,314 I have to check. 1730 01:36:16,344 --> 01:36:19,854 I made a mistake. 1731 01:36:20,274 --> 01:36:20,918 3:00. 1732 01:36:21,144 --> 01:36:21,504 3:00 PM. 1733 01:36:21,684 --> 01:36:23,859 3:00 PM. But the 26th, I think. 1734 01:36:23,874 --> 01:36:26,874 The 26th. Yes, 3:00 PM. 1735 01:36:27,609 --> 01:36:27,609 Right. 1736 01:36:27,654 --> 01:36:32,303 And we'll have more information about that out later. Okay, thank you. 1737 01:36:37,914 --> 01:36:39,053 Yeah. 1738 01:36:39,174 --> 01:36:44,739 Hi, my name is Barbara Nastro. I'm here tonight concerning the situation 1739 01:36:45,264 --> 01:36:51,114 for the families who received letters, 45 letters at random, who live along 1740 01:36:51,174 --> 01:36:57,144 the Pulaski and Solberg Airport area, letting us know that 1741 01:36:59,544 --> 01:37:03,024 our wells could be contaminated by PFAS. 1742 01:37:05,934 --> 01:37:10,734 Mayor, I believe you received a copy of that letter letting you know back on 1743 01:37:10,764 --> 01:37:12,144 Memorial Day weekend? 1744 01:37:13,314 --> 01:37:16,133 I think we all received the same information. 1745 01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:16,794 Mayor, yes. 1746 01:37:17,274 --> 01:37:20,454 Okay, so we are at the point where we need help. 1747 01:37:22,495 --> 01:37:28,254 My husband and I stepped out of the group and we tested our well, and we found out 1748 01:37:28,285 --> 01:37:29,454 that we have PFAS. 1749 01:37:30,745 --> 01:37:35,484 My neighbors, some of them chose to go along with their 1750 01:37:36,474 --> 01:37:42,084 regulation of having the well tested in July, and they still have not 1751 01:37:42,144 --> 01:37:46,944 heard anything from the Department of Environmental Protection. 1752 01:37:48,354 --> 01:37:54,234 I've already applied for the spill fund, and my husband and I still have 1753 01:37:54,264 --> 01:37:59,304 not heard anything from them. So they found out in March 1754 01:38:00,804 --> 01:38:05,574 because a home was sold on Forty Oaks and Solberg Road. 1755 01:38:07,464 --> 01:38:12,234 Many people may not know that in order to sell your house these days, you have to 1756 01:38:12,249 --> 01:38:17,094 have your well tested. They had the well tested, and they found out that they had 1757 01:38:17,124 --> 01:38:17,785 PFAS. 1758 01:38:19,224 --> 01:38:24,444 So what that did was trigger the Department of Environmental Protection to 1759 01:38:25,164 --> 01:38:28,314 find out from other neighbors if they have PFAS. 1760 01:38:29,334 --> 01:38:29,964 For justice. 1761 01:38:30,504 --> 01:38:30,894 Okay. 1762 01:38:31,014 --> 01:38:31,674 Thank you. 1763 01:38:31,854 --> 01:38:32,214 So 1764 01:38:33,444 --> 01:38:39,414 my husband and I paid the $500. We stepped out of the group, and we found out that 1765 01:38:39,504 --> 01:38:40,343 we do have it. 1766 01:38:42,953 --> 01:38:47,724 They're not moving on this, the Department of Environmental Protection, okay? 1767 01:38:48,114 --> 01:38:53,724 So what that means is, I am fortunate enough to have one tap in my 1768 01:38:53,814 --> 01:38:57,624 house that has reverse osmosis, okay? 1769 01:38:57,864 --> 01:39:03,714 You're allowed to take a shower. You can wash your clothes, but they 1770 01:39:03,804 --> 01:39:06,234 highly recommend that you do not drink the water. 1771 01:39:08,004 --> 01:39:13,374 So I have one faucet in my house that has reverse osmosis on it. So what do I do? 1772 01:39:13,495 --> 01:39:17,724 I take it up to the bathrooms of my houses. 1773 01:39:17,844 --> 01:39:23,214 If I have guests, I have to buy bottled water, and I'm very 1774 01:39:23,274 --> 01:39:29,245 vigilant. We have neighbors all around us that have very 1775 01:39:29,274 --> 01:39:33,745 young children in their homes who should be made aware that this could be a 1776 01:39:33,774 --> 01:39:35,664 possibility for them as well. 1777 01:39:37,134 --> 01:39:42,535 And I want to know what the township is doing to-- I know you guys were notified, 1778 01:39:42,654 --> 01:39:44,214 but 1779 01:39:46,374 --> 01:39:47,874 what about that tap? 1780 01:39:47,964 --> 01:39:50,245 Do you know off the top of your head the roads again? 1781 01:39:50,604 --> 01:39:50,995 I'm sorry? 1782 01:39:51,084 --> 01:39:52,434 Do you know off the top of your head the roads? 1783 01:39:52,884 --> 01:39:55,254 Forty Oaks and Solberg Road. 1784 01:39:56,694 --> 01:39:56,709 Thank you. 1785 01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:59,184 The Environmental Committee has been in contact with DEP. 1786 01:39:59,754 --> 01:40:02,874 We are getting exactly the same information you're getting. Nothing. 1787 01:40:03,384 --> 01:40:05,364 We've asked for information. We've asked for follow-up. 1788 01:40:05,394 --> 01:40:09,924 We've asked for them to expand the testing area, and it's crickets. 1789 01:40:10,509 --> 01:40:14,964 So, we've worked with the DEP on other projects. We still have E. 1790 01:40:15,024 --> 01:40:17,124 coli issues on the Rockaway Creek and on 1791 01:40:19,314 --> 01:40:24,504 Lake Hopatcong. The county and the DEP are not interested in working with us on 1792 01:40:24,564 --> 01:40:26,904 that. So I don't have an answer for you. 1793 01:40:27,564 --> 01:40:31,495 I know I had Barbara Bacon Doyle do an article in "The Chronicle" and the tap-in, 1794 01:40:31,644 --> 01:40:33,714 and we were hoping that maybe some publicity would help. 1795 01:40:34,434 --> 01:40:36,804 That may be an avenue that you can pursue. 1796 01:40:37,554 --> 01:40:40,134 The DEP is not required to give us information. 1797 01:40:40,179 --> 01:40:42,745 It's private information based on each individual's home. 1798 01:40:43,374 --> 01:40:46,343 But we would like to get general information that shows what it is. 1799 01:40:46,464 --> 01:40:52,374 The Raritan Headwaters Association has done testing as well, and they found quite a 1800 01:40:52,404 --> 01:40:55,854 bit of PFAS in the Raritan tributary area. 1801 01:40:55,944 --> 01:41:01,794 So it's a problem that I think most people should be proactive like yourself and do 1802 01:41:01,824 --> 01:41:06,729 something. The DEP is not moving on this, and there really isn't any official 1803 01:41:06,804 --> 01:41:10,073 policy from the state as to how they're going to handle this. 1804 01:41:10,194 --> 01:41:11,544 That's not the answer you want to hear, but- 1805 01:41:11,694 --> 01:41:15,910 I don't want to hear that because everybody sitting here, this is a drop in the 1806 01:41:15,954 --> 01:41:18,609 bucket of people that live in this area, and- 1807 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,870 We could all be drinking contaminated water. 1808 01:41:25,050 --> 01:41:27,660 I think that the town should be doing a lot more. 1809 01:41:28,170 --> 01:41:31,590 I'm only getting to the point where I applied for a spill fund. 1810 01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:36,240 Only 45 people at random were selected for this test. 1811 01:41:37,050 --> 01:41:37,350 So, 1812 01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:45,045 the word has to be put out that there's a problem in our town. 1813 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,680 It's not just in our town. It's throughout the state, and quite frankly, throughout 1814 01:41:49,740 --> 01:41:51,840 the country as well. There's a lot of problems- 1815 01:41:51,900 --> 01:41:52,395 Well, I know 1816 01:41:52,395 --> 01:41:53,880 ... with PFAS in different locations. 1817 01:41:53,895 --> 01:41:54,856 Can you say that word again? What is it called? 1818 01:41:55,050 --> 01:41:55,650 PFAS. 1819 01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:56,115 PFAS. 1820 01:41:56,115 --> 01:41:57,390 P-F-A-S. 1821 01:41:57,585 --> 01:41:57,585 Oh, yeah. 1822 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,905 It's an acronym for a very long technical name that I could give to you. 1823 01:42:02,356 --> 01:42:06,481 But you should not be drinking the water. You should have your wells tested. 1824 01:42:06,885 --> 01:42:06,885 Sure. 1825 01:42:06,930 --> 01:42:09,735 Everybody should have their well tested to see if you're drinking... 1826 01:42:10,231 --> 01:42:16,170 The standard is, I think it's 0.13, and you should see 1827 01:42:16,260 --> 01:42:19,920 what your levels are for this PFAS in your water. 1828 01:42:20,010 --> 01:42:25,110 We live near Solberg Airport. I live off of Pulaski Road, 1829 01:42:25,951 --> 01:42:30,660 and the contaminated home was on 40 Oaks and also Berg Road. 1830 01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:33,540 And this is another reason why- 1831 01:42:36,406 --> 01:42:39,015 ... I'm not for any expansion or whatever. 1832 01:42:39,540 --> 01:42:44,670 The people at the airport need to be monitored for whatever they're using to 1833 01:42:47,610 --> 01:42:52,230 de-ice their planes or whatever they're putting into the system into the soil. 1834 01:42:52,350 --> 01:42:57,420 It's not restricted to this area where I live, but 1835 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,010 I'm very concerned. This is another reason for concern about the airport. 1836 01:43:02,670 --> 01:43:05,610 Reading Township is working with the Raritan Headwaters Association. 1837 01:43:05,670 --> 01:43:09,330 We're having a well testing in October this year. 1838 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,140 You can get the test through Raritan Headwaters or through Reading Township. 1839 01:43:13,201 --> 01:43:14,566 Okay, I just want to say again- 1840 01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:15,660 And free bridges 1841 01:43:15,810 --> 01:43:17,910 ... they found the problem in March. 1842 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:24,255 We received, along with this other test sample of 45 people, in 1843 01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:29,205 Memorial Day weekend. My husband and I immediately did the test. 1844 01:43:29,610 --> 01:43:34,800 We notified them July 2nd. We confirmed that they received 1845 01:43:34,980 --> 01:43:39,570 our application for the spill fund on August 13th. 1846 01:43:40,050 --> 01:43:43,890 It's now September 8th, and 1847 01:43:46,860 --> 01:43:48,540 nothing. I still haven't heard anything. 1848 01:43:49,500 --> 01:43:53,160 We're in our third year of trying to get the DEP to respond to the E. 1849 01:43:53,220 --> 01:43:56,701 coli in the Rockaway Creek, and it's a frustrating process. 1850 01:43:58,531 --> 01:44:01,201 What they keep saying is they don't have the funds to do additional testing. 1851 01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:05,281 They wanted us to test it. We tested it, but it goes outside of our township 1852 01:44:05,310 --> 01:44:07,680 boundaries, and at that point, we're not able to do anything. 1853 01:44:07,740 --> 01:44:10,110 So it is a frustrating process working with the DEP. 1854 01:44:12,901 --> 01:44:13,951 Thank you. 1855 01:44:14,340 --> 01:44:14,941 Okay, thank you. 1856 01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:19,170 350 affordable housing units on Solberg Road aren't going to help the problem 1857 01:44:19,201 --> 01:44:19,620 either. 1858 01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:20,880 That's correct. 1859 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:32,189 Good evening, Trevor Esell. In regards to your 1860 01:44:34,050 --> 01:44:39,990 ordinance 19 for the 101 Main Street, it says, "To be paid in part from 1861 01:44:40,050 --> 01:44:41,250 township's affordable housing." 1862 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,281 Where does the other part come from? 1863 01:44:44,294 --> 01:44:53,160 Capital. 1864 01:44:53,730 --> 01:44:57,240 I'm disappointed that three members up here tonight 1865 01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:04,050 were trying to pass Block 4, Lot 18, when the three of 1866 01:45:04,740 --> 01:45:05,850 you sat on the board 1867 01:45:07,170 --> 01:45:07,651 when that 1868 01:45:09,451 --> 01:45:15,000 ordinance was passed in 2021. You being the board, the open spaces are, 1869 01:45:16,651 --> 01:45:19,410 you were one of them. You sat there as mayor 1870 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,451 in 2021, and you sat there that whole night until the whole thing, board, that it 1871 01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:25,441 was purchased through 1872 01:45:30,031 --> 01:45:30,989 some other funding. 1873 01:45:32,580 --> 01:45:35,204 But it turns out it was purchased with open space. 1874 01:45:35,250 --> 01:45:38,850 I think what I said was it's not in the open space inventory. 1875 01:45:39,451 --> 01:45:39,600 No. 1876 01:45:39,660 --> 01:45:40,201 It never was. 1877 01:45:40,290 --> 01:45:41,130 That's not what you said. 1878 01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:41,759 What's that? 1879 01:45:41,850 --> 01:45:42,600 That's not what you said. 1880 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:44,535 Oh, okay. 1881 01:45:44,580 --> 01:45:46,350 Video at 20 minutes. 1882 01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:47,490 I stand corrected. 1883 01:45:47,790 --> 01:45:48,630 No, I'm good. 1884 01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:49,951 We obviously- 1885 01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:51,360 It's very disappointing because we 1886 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:57,945 believe in developer-funded projects, not taxpayer-funded projects. 1887 01:45:58,050 --> 01:46:01,110 You already raised our taxes pretty substantially, 1888 01:46:02,370 --> 01:46:07,260 and now you're talking about bonding and doing all this and using open space 1889 01:46:07,290 --> 01:46:10,890 funding for these purchases. You knew what you were doing back then. 1890 01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:16,005 So, I know you're not going to be honest, so thank you. Have a good night. 1891 01:46:23,250 --> 01:46:27,330 My name is Lisa Rutell. I want to address some of the points that were discussed, 1892 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:32,820 mainly concerns regarding bonding using the Affordable Housing Trust Fund for 1893 01:46:32,850 --> 01:46:38,640 affordable housing. And as we are working towards implementing the development of 1894 01:46:38,701 --> 01:46:44,340 100% affordable housing, as well as small-scale developments for special needs 1895 01:46:44,370 --> 01:46:50,191 veterans, senior residents, this is ultimately still the most financially 1896 01:46:50,281 --> 01:46:54,586 responsible approach. Usually, tax credits from the state are used, 1897 01:46:55,170 --> 01:47:00,090 especially in comparison to alternative large inclusionary developments. 1898 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:07,050 If the inclusionary strategy is used, it would add over 1,000 additional units, 1899 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,906 which would add tremendous long-term recurring expenses. 1900 01:47:11,250 --> 01:47:16,201 There would be tremendous negative impacts in the long run for our taxes, 1901 01:47:16,860 --> 01:47:20,790 roads, schools, and infrastructure. Thank you. 1902 01:47:27,930 --> 01:47:31,845 I'm sorry, but with everything she just mentioned, it's still going to come with 1903 01:47:31,860 --> 01:47:33,300 all these little pocket developments. 1904 01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:39,419 And you're adding kids to the school. 1905 01:47:45,540 --> 01:47:46,124 That was me. 1906 01:47:46,124 --> 01:47:51,060 My name is Tom Orianna. Addressing the Solberg property issue, 1907 01:47:53,191 --> 01:47:57,240 as far as I'm concerned, the property does not appear to meet the criteria for 1908 01:47:57,330 --> 01:47:58,651 affordable housing. 1909 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:05,191 I did a little bit of research on that, and the given setback requirements of the 1910 01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:06,795 adjoining properties, 1911 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,630 there are building height limitations. 1912 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,800 The number of individual structures needed for 350 1913 01:48:18,211 --> 01:48:22,965 apartments, parking lot location for 350 apartments, 1914 01:48:23,790 --> 01:48:27,961 location of the recreation area, and garbage containers. 1915 01:48:28,441 --> 01:48:34,080 For this to happen, the project would have to encroach into the air safety zone. 1916 01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:41,505 Building in the air safety zone would require approval from the Commissioner of 1917 01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:47,461 Transportation. I doubt any commissioner would ever jeopardize the safety 1918 01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:54,270 of 350 families. I think it's pretty much impossible 1919 01:48:55,050 --> 01:48:56,040 for this approval 1920 01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:58,410 at this site 1921 01:48:59,790 --> 01:49:01,920 to occur. It's not going to happen. 1922 01:49:15,961 --> 01:49:18,330 Hello, again. My name is Anne Rotundo. 1923 01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:22,395 I'm with the Daughters of the American Revolution at the Old White House, General 1924 01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:24,240 Frelinghuysen and Colonel Lowry chapter. 1925 01:49:25,170 --> 01:49:26,490 I just wanted to add that 1926 01:49:27,961 --> 01:49:33,090 obviously we want to do what's best for the cemetery, and whether it's 1927 01:49:34,651 --> 01:49:39,060 a park or whether it's affordable housing there or not affordable housing there, 1928 01:49:40,350 --> 01:49:45,630 if it is chosen to be affordable housing, my question is, it's only 1929 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:49,336 an acre and a little. I don't even know if it's an acre and a half. 1930 01:49:49,935 --> 01:49:55,920 And if it's that small of a piece of property that can afford 20 units 1931 01:49:56,010 --> 01:50:01,830 of affordable housing, surely in Readington, there's another acre that's 1932 01:50:01,890 --> 01:50:07,380 not next to our historic cemetery, that's not the entrance to or a gateway 1933 01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:12,660 to White House Station, that could be purchased so that it doesn't 1934 01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,170 affect our cemetery. Thank you. 1935 01:50:22,608 --> 01:50:23,809 Hi. Al Grotz. 1936 01:50:25,518 --> 01:50:27,319 I have a random question for you, Mr. Mayor. 1937 01:50:27,408 --> 01:50:28,188 So the 1938 01:50:29,508 --> 01:50:35,328 NJ Wildlife, I guess it's the WMA that is on Route 22 westbound, 1939 01:50:35,988 --> 01:50:41,868 which is adjacent to the, I don't know what the block lot is, 3488 maybe 1940 01:50:41,898 --> 01:50:45,768 is probably the number. The sign's no longer there. 1941 01:50:46,488 --> 01:50:50,163 Is there a reason why that wildlife management reserve, that sign always comes up 1942 01:50:50,208 --> 01:50:54,168 and down? Any idea? I'm sure it was under your purview in some capacity. 1943 01:50:54,288 --> 01:50:57,198 No, you would have to check with the state DB. 1944 01:50:57,528 --> 01:50:58,218 Got you. Okay. 1945 01:50:58,309 --> 01:51:02,688 I've done the same where they hadn't signs on the one on the south ranch and 1946 01:51:02,718 --> 01:51:04,368 requested it, and they put a sign up. 1947 01:51:04,458 --> 01:51:04,638 So, 1948 01:51:06,618 --> 01:51:08,988 things like that, let us know and we can follow up. 1949 01:51:09,078 --> 01:51:13,413 Yeah. It's adjacent to the affordable housing complex that you had on the docket, 1950 01:51:13,444 --> 01:51:15,363 so I thought maybe we replaced it. 1951 01:51:15,363 --> 01:51:17,028 You said the sign goes up and down? 1952 01:51:17,388 --> 01:51:20,208 Well, it's there and disappears. I don't know if it's up and down. 1953 01:51:20,823 --> 01:51:20,823 Oh. 1954 01:51:20,868 --> 01:51:21,303 It's literally- 1955 01:51:21,528 --> 01:51:22,098 On and off. 1956 01:51:22,938 --> 01:51:27,438 Yeah. It's happened multiple times in the past several months, so I didn't know if 1957 01:51:27,468 --> 01:51:28,518 something was happening. 1958 01:51:28,549 --> 01:51:28,653 Been a while. 1959 01:51:28,653 --> 01:51:29,328 Very bizarre, yeah. 1960 01:51:29,569 --> 01:51:30,647 We need a quick check, but I- 1961 01:51:32,148 --> 01:51:34,069 It's not there right now. It may be back tomorrow. 1962 01:51:36,379 --> 01:51:41,388 Yeah. So, the only other thing that I would like to make one comment is, it's a 1963 01:51:41,418 --> 01:51:44,508 great sadness that we're here trying to spend an hour and a half, 1964 01:51:46,728 --> 01:51:48,049 debating whether or not 1965 01:51:50,268 --> 01:51:55,983 business uses or small business uses on many of our parcels on Route 22, and zoning 1966 01:51:56,028 --> 01:52:00,888 is a bad thing or a good thing versus affordable housing being a bad thing or a 1967 01:52:00,918 --> 01:52:04,999 good thing on the same parcels, which is kind of a wild sentiment. 1968 01:52:05,178 --> 01:52:11,088 I'm of the perspective that when we have high-value pieces of property on 1969 01:52:11,118 --> 01:52:16,879 Route 22, i.e., literally the epicenter at the junction of our 1970 01:52:16,938 --> 01:52:20,448 business corridor and our small business corridor, that 1971 01:52:22,188 --> 01:52:27,408 debating what could have maybe been there or not via zoning is even a valid 1972 01:52:27,438 --> 01:52:31,278 argument in any capacity. But that affordable housing is somehow a good idea. 1973 01:52:31,368 --> 01:52:32,448 It 1974 01:52:34,728 --> 01:52:36,438 boggles my mind that we're in this place. 1975 01:52:36,528 --> 01:52:36,708 So, 1976 01:52:38,299 --> 01:52:44,238 I would hope that on a go-forward basis, we understand the value in growing 1977 01:52:44,268 --> 01:52:47,718 and aiding the business community up and down that stretch, because it's the only 1978 01:52:47,749 --> 01:52:53,343 stretch we really have. And every time in those meetings, it's like, it's just 1979 01:52:53,508 --> 01:52:58,684 no business bad, even if it's the rejuvenation of an existing structure, and it's 1980 01:52:58,758 --> 01:53:02,809 always bad right up until the moment that we want to put affordable housing. 1981 01:53:03,168 --> 01:53:07,624 At which point, we can always make an argument why, and it won't be that bad, and 1982 01:53:07,624 --> 01:53:13,008 it will just be, and it's a sorry state of affairs when we can't find the middle 1983 01:53:13,038 --> 01:53:16,038 ground and do the right thing early on, because then those properties could have 1984 01:53:16,069 --> 01:53:20,073 been rehabbed and rejuvenated and be nice now, and we wouldn't be having an 1985 01:53:20,073 --> 01:53:25,428 affordable housing conversation because there'd be some net valuable goods and/or 1986 01:53:25,488 --> 01:53:29,629 services being rendered to the community by the community in the same spots versus 1987 01:53:30,438 --> 01:53:33,948 importing rental units, which is effectively what we're going to do. 1988 01:53:34,098 --> 01:53:39,093 So, I would hope that the next few properties we can discuss on the corridor are 1989 01:53:39,138 --> 01:53:43,713 for net positive small business growth, not affordable housing complexes that we've 1990 01:53:43,728 --> 01:53:45,258 got to pay for. So, thank you. 1991 01:53:55,038 --> 01:53:56,958 All right. I'm just going to say this because- 1992 01:53:57,408 --> 01:53:57,513 Sorry. 1993 01:53:57,513 --> 01:54:02,388 Sorry, go along. Reddington. I'm just going to say this because it's driving me up 1994 01:54:02,418 --> 01:54:02,809 the wall. 1995 01:54:04,428 --> 01:54:08,598 No matter what, we have the affordable housing requirement. 1996 01:54:09,108 --> 01:54:12,828 No matter what, we have to deal with this requirement. 1997 01:54:12,918 --> 01:54:17,059 At minimum, 378 units or 504 credits. 1998 01:54:18,228 --> 01:54:24,153 We have to put it somewhere. Okay? I'm really, really worried that all of this 1999 01:54:24,198 --> 01:54:29,043 back and forth is just going to get us to builder's remedy, and then the first 2000 01:54:29,088 --> 01:54:34,593 developer that goes to the state and says they're not putting a plan in action is 2001 01:54:34,638 --> 01:54:37,638 going to get to do whatever they want. 2002 01:54:39,438 --> 01:54:45,258 Whether it's 1,400-plus units on 202 or who knows 2003 01:54:45,288 --> 01:54:47,868 what on the north part of Reddington. 2004 01:54:49,188 --> 01:54:54,948 It's over a year overdue. Can we please come together and make a 2005 01:54:55,038 --> 01:55:00,678 plan that is actually viable? Not lots that you know won't work, 2006 01:55:01,098 --> 01:55:06,828 that a state will never approve, and not some massive property 2007 01:55:06,948 --> 01:55:11,208 that will raise the total number of units in 2008 01:55:13,008 --> 01:55:18,828 the town over 20%. 20%. It's actually more than 2009 01:55:18,978 --> 01:55:24,918 21%. So, can we all please agree that builder's remedy ain't the thing? 2010 01:55:25,819 --> 01:55:26,178 Thank you. 2011 01:55:35,718 --> 01:55:39,138 Yeah, I'm Jim Horvik. I live at Pleasant Road. Can you see that Horvik? 2012 01:55:39,468 --> 01:55:43,398 I live on Pleasant Road. And Pleasant Road is a very country road. 2013 01:55:44,569 --> 01:55:48,228 Nice homes, trees, a babbling brook. 2014 01:55:49,458 --> 01:55:55,218 And I can't envision the township is going to, at the beginning of Hogan Road or 2015 01:55:55,249 --> 01:56:00,768 Headington, Craig Road, are going to permit massive buildings, 2016 01:56:00,888 --> 01:56:05,778 four stories high, through the fields of this 370 acres. 2017 01:56:06,768 --> 01:56:12,633 It's going to be such an eyesore, not counting the drain on our resources, that 2018 01:56:12,648 --> 01:56:18,108 the water table may drop. Well, my well will go dry because they're tapping 2019 01:56:18,379 --> 01:56:24,228 300,000 gallons a day for 1,400 units, and there's no sewer. 2020 01:56:24,528 --> 01:56:29,208 So, where is the sewer going to go? You're going to put it in the ground, so people 2021 01:56:29,238 --> 01:56:32,749 will just flush the toilet and put Clorox in there. 2022 01:56:32,809 --> 01:56:34,999 They don't care if there's bacteria in the 2023 01:56:36,978 --> 01:56:42,768 system. Then they use Drano. People who have serious septic systems, 2024 01:56:43,098 --> 01:56:48,108 we don't do those things because you need bacteria to keep the system healthy. 2025 01:56:48,438 --> 01:56:51,678 These people, 1,400, they're going to say, "It's not my problem. 2026 01:56:52,069 --> 01:56:56,523 I'm going to clean my drain." And they're going to put Drano and Clorox, and it's 2027 01:56:56,538 --> 01:57:00,948 going to foul up the septic systems, and then it's going to leach into the soil, 2028 01:57:01,278 --> 01:57:04,549 and it's going to go into our wells that we all live around there. 2029 01:57:05,749 --> 01:57:09,078 We are the same. I've been there for 45 years. 2030 01:57:10,218 --> 01:57:14,299 I've been a police officer of Reddington for 31 years. I retired here. 2031 01:57:15,108 --> 01:57:20,688 I love this place, and I can't envision this massive wall of 2032 01:57:20,749 --> 01:57:24,168 buildings on Pleasant Road. It just doesn't belong there. 2033 01:57:26,208 --> 01:57:28,968 That's what I think. 2034 01:57:46,338 --> 01:57:46,518 Okay. 2035 01:57:46,578 --> 01:57:49,218 If you all come from this area, you know the road- 2036 01:57:49,249 --> 01:57:50,103 What was your name, please? 2037 01:57:50,118 --> 01:57:50,988 Marian Horvik. 2038 01:57:51,543 --> 01:57:51,543 Okay. 2039 01:57:51,588 --> 01:57:52,819 Yeah. 2040 01:57:55,309 --> 01:58:01,218 Do you know Craig Road, everyone? Can you see 3,000 people going down that little 2041 01:58:01,278 --> 01:58:06,708 bridge? We can't even do it now. We have to stop and 2042 01:58:07,188 --> 01:58:12,858 take turns. How is this even envisioned in everyone's mind? 2043 01:58:13,908 --> 01:58:19,728 The traffic pattern. The motorcycles come from the top of the hill, 2044 01:58:19,788 --> 01:58:24,408 zoom down, and come from that side, from Craig Road, and go the other way. 2045 01:58:25,608 --> 01:58:29,598 The traffic there, we can't even get on the highway now as it is. 2046 01:58:32,208 --> 01:58:36,004 If each 1,400, you're going to figure a spouse, 2047 01:58:37,458 --> 01:58:39,918 so we double that, children driving. 2048 01:58:41,072 --> 01:58:44,088 The whole area would just be destroyed. 2049 01:58:45,379 --> 01:58:48,828 Totally destroyed. And I don't think Reddington 2050 01:58:50,118 --> 01:58:53,988 is really what you started it as. 2051 01:58:55,309 --> 01:58:58,638 A beautiful country area that we came to live here for. 2052 01:59:07,218 --> 01:59:10,549 All right. I never was going to stand up in here, but I grew up on Craig Road, 2053 01:59:10,638 --> 01:59:12,528 which anybody really wants to know history. 2054 01:59:12,708 --> 01:59:14,043 If you recognize me- 2055 01:59:14,059 --> 01:59:15,258 Could you give your name for the record? 2056 01:59:15,708 --> 01:59:16,368 Mark Hanna. 2057 01:59:16,458 --> 01:59:17,434 Thanks, Mark. 2058 01:59:17,478 --> 01:59:21,513 And it used to be Moon Road. And when they did change that, when she's talking 2059 01:59:21,528 --> 01:59:25,428 about traffic, anybody who lives on there knows how kind of shaky that bridge is. 2060 01:59:25,999 --> 01:59:30,603 And I still try to farm on there, but Reddington Township, over the years, has 2061 01:59:30,708 --> 01:59:34,578 kicked all the farmers out of this town. Let's face it. 2062 01:59:34,788 --> 01:59:38,148 It used to be a farm country. It's not anymore. And it's just going to be more. 2063 01:59:38,238 --> 01:59:39,978 When I was young, it always used to be farm there. 2064 01:59:40,129 --> 01:59:43,129 It was a pond, a big horse farm, and cows. 2065 01:59:43,549 --> 01:59:46,488 We got to do something, maybe, but it doesn't need to be there. 2066 01:59:46,549 --> 01:59:51,828 And I still try to drive a tractor on Craig Road once in a while, 2067 01:59:52,833 --> 01:59:56,868 and the traffic's terrible. People are stupid. I'm not going to lie. 2068 01:59:56,928 --> 02:00:01,518 I agree with you 100% the way people are, but I didn't like the way you were kind 2069 02:00:01,549 --> 02:00:05,268 of making faces to want somebody up here or that. I don't go for that. 2070 02:00:05,299 --> 02:00:06,499 But getting back 2071 02:00:07,255 --> 02:00:10,104 Maybe we need this somewhere. It doesn't need to be there. 2072 02:00:10,224 --> 02:00:16,104 What about out in your parkland on maybe a two-way up to over at Colin Sons? 2073 02:00:16,255 --> 02:00:20,229 He owns all that land everywhere, and if anybody knows the history of this guy, 2074 02:00:20,575 --> 02:00:22,524 look him up, what a kind of landlord he was. 2075 02:00:23,214 --> 02:00:27,894 I have a little bit of background with that, and I won't even go there. 2076 02:00:28,224 --> 02:00:30,834 So, all right? God bless you, country. 2077 02:00:37,104 --> 02:00:40,854 Hi. Lisa Mossy. I live on Craig Road, too. 2078 02:00:41,664 --> 02:00:47,005 I've only been there for eight years, and for the past 15 months, we have a little 2079 02:00:47,064 --> 02:00:52,944 farm, about 12 acres. I was arguing back and forth with the zoning person, 2080 02:00:53,034 --> 02:00:58,434 my favorite person, for a 10 by 12 farm stand that they were having trouble 2081 02:00:58,974 --> 02:01:04,749 at the end of my driveway with. I have hundreds of people going to my little 2082 02:01:04,854 --> 02:01:10,194 farm stand, little kids, big kids, old people, teenagers, 2083 02:01:10,705 --> 02:01:13,015 buying little things at that farm stand. 2084 02:01:13,674 --> 02:01:19,194 The speed limit's 30 miles an hour, but a lot of people go faster than that. 2085 02:01:19,255 --> 02:01:24,624 But I'm here for the first time looking at the politics up here, and I don't like 2086 02:01:24,714 --> 02:01:29,274 it. I moved here to Reddington. I was a nurse for 30 years. 2087 02:01:29,544 --> 02:01:35,094 I love this little farm. We planted 4,000 berries, peach trees, grapes, everything, 2088 02:01:35,544 --> 02:01:39,909 and I love the farm. I love seeing Mark on his tractor. 2089 02:01:40,450 --> 02:01:43,255 People try to run over my husband on his tractor. 2090 02:01:43,854 --> 02:01:48,174 You can't have 1,400 units at the end of Craig Road. You can't do it. 2091 02:01:48,564 --> 02:01:54,325 Every month, someone gets into an accident on that little bridge head-on 2092 02:01:55,075 --> 02:01:56,874 because they play chicken on that road. 2093 02:01:57,294 --> 02:02:03,174 You can't have an additional 1,400 units with God knows how many people 2094 02:02:03,294 --> 02:02:07,223 on that road. I don't care how you do it. You can't do it. 2095 02:02:07,464 --> 02:02:09,864 So I don't know what the politics are. 2096 02:02:10,104 --> 02:02:15,414 I don't know how this decision gets made, but we have to have more people 2097 02:02:16,524 --> 02:02:20,844 in on the whole thing, just like the block and lot and the address. 2098 02:02:20,904 --> 02:02:25,794 That's all important for people to understand the process of this whole thing. 2099 02:02:26,274 --> 02:02:31,794 So I'm going to be sitting back and watching this, but I hope everybody else has 2100 02:02:31,854 --> 02:02:36,894 something to say about that. You can't do that. You just can't. 2101 02:02:45,834 --> 02:02:48,924 Okay. Any comments from the-- Oh. 2102 02:02:52,914 --> 02:02:56,724 My name's Connie Merchant. I promised my husband I wasn't going to say anything 2103 02:02:56,784 --> 02:02:57,205 tonight- 2104 02:02:58,914 --> 02:02:59,784 ... but I'm fired up. 2105 02:03:01,825 --> 02:03:02,245 And 2106 02:03:03,444 --> 02:03:09,054 we've lived here 38 years, so we're not rookies to Reddington, and we've lived 2107 02:03:09,114 --> 02:03:14,904 here. We love living here. We live not far from off of Pleasant Run Road. 2108 02:03:15,444 --> 02:03:21,114 The idea of putting in that number of units on that 2109 02:03:21,174 --> 02:03:26,515 location is ridiculous on multiple levels. 2110 02:03:26,575 --> 02:03:27,534 Environmentally, 2111 02:03:29,424 --> 02:03:30,265 economically, 2112 02:03:31,495 --> 02:03:35,094 socially, it's wrong for Reddington. 2113 02:03:36,234 --> 02:03:41,755 And I will say this, if people are so riled up about 2114 02:03:41,814 --> 02:03:47,455 affordable housing, get figured out how you can address it at the 2115 02:03:47,604 --> 02:03:48,414 state level. 2116 02:03:49,644 --> 02:03:55,044 The town has to do what it's been mandated at the state level. 2117 02:03:55,344 --> 02:04:01,044 If you hate it, get busy telling your state legislators, if you can 2118 02:04:01,134 --> 02:04:05,604 find them all, that you don't want this. 2119 02:04:07,374 --> 02:04:10,705 There's also an undercurrent that makes me a little embarrassed, 2120 02:04:12,054 --> 02:04:16,825 an undercurrent of, "We don't want them," whoever them is. 2121 02:04:17,634 --> 02:04:22,495 Anybody who has aging parents or 30-year-old kids who still have to live at home 2122 02:04:22,554 --> 02:04:27,864 because they can't afford to live in Reddington know we have an affordable housing 2123 02:04:27,984 --> 02:04:31,614 crisis in Hunterdon County and all over New Jersey. 2124 02:04:32,274 --> 02:04:35,575 So let's figure out how to deal with that at the upper levels. 2125 02:04:35,964 --> 02:04:41,214 Here in Reddington, people come here and stay here because of the quality of life. 2126 02:04:42,174 --> 02:04:47,634 We are bound to do something that the state has required, but the 2127 02:04:47,844 --> 02:04:51,594 solution on Pleasant Run Road is ridiculous. 2128 02:05:01,944 --> 02:05:05,964 Okay, I'll close there and just ask if there's comments from the governing body. 2129 02:05:06,474 --> 02:05:09,144 Yes, Mr. Mayor, there's a couple of items I forgot to mention before. 2130 02:05:09,834 --> 02:05:15,714 On Sunday the 13th, 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM, the 1776 Hooked Rug Exhibit and a visit 2131 02:05:15,745 --> 02:05:20,575 with Soldier Deborah Sampson will be sponsored at the Bowman's Pickney Farm by the 2132 02:05:20,634 --> 02:05:25,299 Museums Committee. And once again, the 3:00 PM at the Bowman's Pickney, the 2133 02:05:25,344 --> 02:05:30,024 Taylor's Mill, the mill that fed Washington's troops will be displayed on the 26th. 2134 02:05:30,444 --> 02:05:35,874 And also on October 24th at 11:00 AM will be the Liberty Pole 2135 02:05:35,995 --> 02:05:37,584 celebration in Reddington Township. 2136 02:05:38,124 --> 02:05:42,205 I hope we get a strong turnout for that, celebrating our 250th anniversary. 2137 02:05:47,738 --> 02:05:47,738 Good. 2138 02:05:47,814 --> 02:05:52,344 We might not all agree, but I appreciate everyone showing up and listening. 2139 02:05:52,434 --> 02:05:55,255 That is the best way to get involved and stay informed. 2140 02:05:56,334 --> 02:05:59,094 That said, with affordable housing, we have two options. 2141 02:06:00,354 --> 02:06:04,359 Either the taxpayer is going to pay for it or a developer's going to pay for it. 2142 02:06:04,359 --> 02:06:08,484 Pay to play. That is what this entire conversation is about. 2143 02:06:10,044 --> 02:06:11,995 That is not true. 2144 02:06:12,294 --> 02:06:12,309 Okay. 2145 02:06:12,834 --> 02:06:13,809 The taxpayer's going to pay no matter what. 2146 02:06:13,809 --> 02:06:15,114 We can't do a back and forth shout- 2147 02:06:15,158 --> 02:06:16,255 You know what? You're smart. 2148 02:06:16,314 --> 02:06:18,024 Because we can't do a back and forth shout- 2149 02:06:18,624 --> 02:06:18,640 Because nobody- 2150 02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:19,705 We can't do a shout. 2151 02:06:19,825 --> 02:06:20,634 You're smart. 2152 02:06:20,724 --> 02:06:21,594 We can't shout. 2153 02:06:22,314 --> 02:06:23,469 Let's finish with John. 2154 02:06:23,515 --> 02:06:27,955 It's still my time. So I would also like to say, we've got a lot from Craig Road, 2155 02:06:28,075 --> 02:06:29,245 so that's great. 2156 02:06:30,594 --> 02:06:34,659 You should listen to the residents on the north side of town, where all affordable 2157 02:06:34,674 --> 02:06:39,624 housing has been shoved, with the exception of Three Bridges. Okay? 2158 02:06:40,434 --> 02:06:45,325 It's all being shoved on Route 22. Okay? It is. 2159 02:06:45,894 --> 02:06:49,554 And it's all being shoved-- and there's a second development proposed in Three 2160 02:06:49,644 --> 02:06:52,344 Bridges. You probably don't know that yet, right? 2161 02:06:52,614 --> 02:06:55,734 There's a second development proposed in Three Bridges right next to the other one. 2162 02:06:56,755 --> 02:07:02,064 So I understand, not in my backyard. I understand. Trust me, I get it. 2163 02:07:02,784 --> 02:07:03,054 But 2164 02:07:06,294 --> 02:07:09,804 I appreciate you all showing up and speaking your mind. It's that simple. 2165 02:07:09,955 --> 02:07:13,224 Ultimately, the courts are going to decide, and we are quickly down a path to 2166 02:07:14,664 --> 02:07:16,929 having the judge decide this for us. So. 2167 02:07:17,424 --> 02:07:18,413 Vinnie? 2168 02:07:18,564 --> 02:07:20,784 I have nothing more to say, sir. Just pretty much done. 2169 02:07:21,654 --> 02:07:21,669 Okay. 2170 02:07:21,684 --> 02:07:22,914 All right, I've got one comment. 2171 02:07:24,174 --> 02:07:26,890 I would agree with most of you, and I- 2172 02:07:27,354 --> 02:07:32,349 Guys, can we please stop with the back-and-forth conversation? Thank you. 2173 02:07:32,634 --> 02:07:36,339 Thank you. I would agree, I think most of us are opposed to affordable housing the 2174 02:07:36,354 --> 02:07:39,294 way the state of New Jersey is imposed on townships. 2175 02:07:40,344 --> 02:07:42,294 This is my third stint as mayor. 2176 02:07:43,944 --> 02:07:47,245 Did I want to be mayor during a year where we have to deal with affordable housing? 2177 02:07:47,304 --> 02:07:51,384 No. My day job is preserving land, farms, and open space. 2178 02:07:52,015 --> 02:07:57,294 By the next two weeks, I think I've got about 600 acres of land 2179 02:07:57,354 --> 02:08:01,075 preserved over eight years. That's what I spend my time doing. 2180 02:08:01,495 --> 02:08:04,075 So like all of us, we're really opposed to this. 2181 02:08:05,005 --> 02:08:09,774 I'm opposed to the fact that the State of New Jersey exempts urban areas from 2182 02:08:09,834 --> 02:08:15,654 affordable housing, and they move it into suburban areas or wherever they think 2183 02:08:15,684 --> 02:08:20,634 appropriate. It's just not fair. We're still fighting the 504 number that was given 2184 02:08:20,664 --> 02:08:25,374 to us a year and a half ago. I think we're on appeal. We don't like that number. 2185 02:08:25,464 --> 02:08:31,015 We don't like that many units. So this is like we're all in it together, and we're 2186 02:08:31,044 --> 02:08:36,444 trying to work out the best we can, and hopefully, we can continue and have a 2187 02:08:37,224 --> 02:08:43,164 small-scale footprint and not have all the consequences of traffic, 2188 02:08:44,334 --> 02:08:49,464 services, all the things that are negative, I think we're all in agreement on. 2189 02:08:49,524 --> 02:08:53,484 This is not what we want, but it's very hard to fight the state of New Jersey. 2190 02:08:53,664 --> 02:08:55,404 So I think Connie's comment about 2191 02:08:56,874 --> 02:09:02,349 that's where the ultimate responsibility lies, it's with the state, and we're 2192 02:09:02,364 --> 02:09:06,384 trying to implement something as best we can from our different perspectives. 2193 02:09:06,444 --> 02:09:10,344 So I agree with that, and I appreciate everybody's engagement. 2194 02:09:10,794 --> 02:09:13,075 This is not an easy thing. So 2195 02:09:14,424 --> 02:09:16,524 thank you very much. And one more last thing. 2196 02:09:16,584 --> 02:09:21,505 There was a township town hall that occurred on March 30th. 2197 02:09:21,894 --> 02:09:27,714 So for people that are new to this topic, we had our professionals, planner, and 2198 02:09:27,804 --> 02:09:33,444 affordable housing attorney do about a one-hour briefing on the mechanics of what 2199 02:09:33,505 --> 02:09:38,934 this is, how it works, the whole process, and they laid it out in about 45 minutes. 2200 02:09:39,564 --> 02:09:44,424 It's on tape, it's on video. I think you could take a look at it, and that might be 2201 02:09:44,455 --> 02:09:48,265 a way to educate you and neighbors about what we're facing. 2202 02:09:48,684 --> 02:09:52,944 So that was March 30th of this year. So anyway, with that, I'll close. 2203 02:09:53,034 --> 02:09:54,864 I want to thank you all for participating. 2204 02:09:55,164 --> 02:09:55,884 Motion to adjourn. 2205 02:09:56,034 --> 02:09:56,455 Second. 2206 02:09:56,934 --> 02:09:57,505 All in favor? 2207 02:09:57,624 --> 02:09:58,163 Aye. 2208 02:09:58,194 --> 02:09:59,184 Thank you.