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Sorry, I didn't know I wasn't live. I thought we were all on. Should I start over? You're fine. Okay. So we've got Councillor Tweetle, Councillor, why don't you have a move that we move you into closed session and all those in favor?

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Thank you very much. We'll move into closed and I do think we'll be an hour and a half to two hours.

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And I've been proven wrong before.

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I think I have them over here.

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Okay, good afternoon, council and welcome to members of the public who have joined us for our agenda today. I feel like we're a little echoey in here. It's a little bit hard to get used to, among other things, our physical placements. So bear with us just because we're in a new space for today. I want to just run through a few safety procedures. If you need assistance during the meeting, please speak with a member of ledge services team who's here.

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Maybe I'll just ask a ledge services to raise hands so you kind of see where they're at.

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The room I think over here in the corner behind to my left, your right.

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Watchrooms are located on this floor to the right from the gyms entrance.

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And first aid kits are available on this floor.

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An automated external defibrillator is located on the fourth floor.

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A little bit of a sprint to get there.

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And then if we do need to evacuate, please go through the Northeastern stairwell or the gyms main doors

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to where the West exit.

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Do not use elevators or see to the master point in the pavilion on the west side of the building.

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And if someone cannot use stairs or needs assistance to staff members, we'll remain with

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you until emergency services arrives.

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In the event of severe weather, the city clerk will direct everyone to the level of two stairwell.

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We'll huddle there.

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Thank you.

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We'll back to my beginning page here.

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I will entertain points of interest now Council does anyone have anything and we'll have to indicate by

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have not logged in right now so if you have a speaking point please raise your hand from anybody

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Councillor Goodwin.

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Thank you Mayor and thanks everybody.

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It was a fantastic weekend at the air show.

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I got a chance and I know other people are going to be able to share stories because it was such an incredible opportunity to showcase

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what city of Red Deer, the Red Deer Regional Airport and the region of Red Deer has to offer

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and really demonstrate family, friendly, fun all the way around, incredible entertainment and really quite thrilling stunts.

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And I was really impressed and I think that overall it went off quite well.

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So I'm looking forward to hearing some of the reports of successes from the business perspective as well.

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That's all. Thank you. I'm going to go to Councilor Cron.

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So it's deputy mayor. I got to do quite a few pancake breakfasts.

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I understand in the community there was 28.

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So I managed to make it to 15. I felt pretty proud of that.

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I haven't had pancake sense.

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But and just to be able to be a part of Western days and the incredible show and the great amount of work that goes into that.

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I understand our partners at Western Parker here today.

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And so congratulations to them on putting on a pretty incredible event.

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The other exciting piece that I got to do is Deputy Mayor's on Saturday, I got to open

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praise in the park at Bauer Ponds, which a number of churches come together to sing worship

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ponds and fill Bauer Ponds with praise, and so that was pretty special to be able to do

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as well.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm looking for hands if you'd like to add two points of interest.

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Seeing any, I'll just add one.

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I don't think I've had a chance to tell Council about this at all yesterday I had the opportunity

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to go to RDP and have lunch with a group of about 50 students who were invited to participate

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in a program called Shad. And it's an actual four-week program where students who are in either

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going into grade 11 or going into grade 12 get to come and participate in some programming,

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live and read your four a month, essentially, most of them were from Ontario, Quebec,

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Other provinces other than Alberta, and this is the first time that a polytechnic has participated in the Shad program, and so usually it's a university, full fledged university where students are headed to.

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Just a wonderful opportunity to hear students talk about our community and about their experience and their love for the polytechnic and the things that they learned about that space while they're here.

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So a number of RDP faculty participated for the four-week program, and so just really interesting

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opportunity to see that.

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I didn't know that that occurred, so students are participating based on application and

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interviews, so it's a program they apply.

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Thank you very much, Mayor Jeffries. Just a bit of memory being in this particular location. This is the school that I went to for grades one to six and some good memories here. I also had a chance to work as an educational system here too. So that was great as well.

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I sure appreciate all that happened during Westerner days, bringing our community together.

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I also want to just acknowledge and recognize the opportunity that we had as the Westerner

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Board to meet with the Premier in regards to some of the priorities that we have for Westerner

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Park, as well as Minister Boy Chanko's responsible for tourism, and that was also a good visit

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in regards to it. I also want to just highlight to the yesterday we had the opportunity to go to

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last or recovery, a really important facility in our community and really for across the province

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and providing addiction support for many people. I know I have been there before, but I

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know my colleagues who were there for the first time were really impressed and the important

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work that they are doing about that as well. And also had an opportunity to go to mustard seed

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and what was most exciting about that is the transitional housing that they've been able to put

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the place working with the community and providing the services that many of those are needing

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and it was just a positive and very exciting project that they've done and thank them very

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much for that important work. Thank you. Thank you. Any other members of Council Councillor Curtis,

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please? Bottom of your mic, you'll find your on switch. It might be live already.

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that was attended by some of Council, that wasn't mentioned as the RDP Syntak expansion.

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And that's going to be an incredible opportunity for RDP and our city when it comes to showcasing

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some incredible talents. So I just wanted to mention that event as well.

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Thank you very much, Council. For your points of interest and for being out and about in the

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community and certainly lots of excitement between the Westerner days and the air show for

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on some pretty big events for our community. Now we'll move counsel to the consent agenda

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before you items 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 of a mover

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at sea hands.

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Else they're white.

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She's trying to move her in second. Do we separate now, Mayor?

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Yes, you can separate now. I would like you to I'd like to sever the

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size mayor's caucus summit coming in right here please. Okay, so that's the second.

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Well, let's on our agenda. Okay. And Councillor Cron. I'd like to sever item 4.3.

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Thank you.

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I do in 4.3 have been severed. Anything else, Council? That leaves confirmation of the

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July 14 Council meeting minutes. Any questions, comments on that? All those in favor?

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I'm sorry. I'm seeing all hands. So that's everyone. Thank you. Oh, there's the vote's coming up now.

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I'm a favor. Thanks, Councilor Wanches. We know you can't get logged in.

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So I'll go first to the mid-sized city mayors caucus and it's been severed by Councilor Wanches.

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You have a question or something on that. Just a comment, Mayor.

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It's coming to our city in September 16 to 18.

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and we often compete with other cities to be able to have this in red deer.

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And then one of you, if you can just speak to reports,

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speaks about speaking about priorities as municipalities,

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the regional benefits.

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If you can speak to your participation on this forum

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and the value of it coming to our city.

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Thank you.

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Definitely need to share the spotlight.

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If you will with members of staff who've been participating in the planning meetings,

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Jill Haines and Rachel has stepped in city managers been in on a few as and I have as well.

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Lots of work I think Shirley's participated for us as well. Lots of work trying to put together a program that will showcase red deer in a very great way.

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Happens to coincide with the premier's caucus which happens in the in Fort McMurray.

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So we're trying to work out the agenda in the best way possible.

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will be able to have a number of representatives including Minister Williams here as part of the agenda.

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The whole idea is to wear and when we can, we'll showcase red deer and some of the

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special things that we've got happening here and some of the new developments as well as

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have an opportunity on subsessions. I know there'll be a panel on affordability. I believe there's

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to be a panel on municipal crown corporations, few other sessions, and we will be having dinner

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at Heritage Ranch one evening for delegates as well.

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So lots to offer, lots of opportunities to network and learn about Red Deer.

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Showcase some of the things we've got going on here.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And thanks for severing that.

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Councillor Cron, you have severed the transportation

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highway improvements.

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Yeah, recognizing that.

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This has been quite a big discussion

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in our community, and that there is

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a presentation from administration.

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I do have a motion to put forward around this

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and give some direction to administration.

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Thank you.

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I guess we'll go to that,

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so I can get that brought up.

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And I'm just like, I can introduce it.

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Thank you.

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We'll pull that up.

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How's sir, brispoir?

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Do you have a second?

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Seconding?

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Thank you.

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How's Sir Kron when you're set when it's ready?

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You just go ahead.

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Yeah, I'll speak to him as on the screen.

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That's on the

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So it's a four-part motion, but it's

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they're kind of encapsulated a bunch of different pieces in here

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that just to recognize that the expansion and the widening

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and the four lanes of the QVD.

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I think people might be having trouble hearing you,

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so I don't know what.

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I mean, I can see myself echoing.

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Yeah, I know you're echoing, but I'm watching people

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on the audience, straining to hear you.

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So I'm not sure if it's getting closer to your mic.

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All right.

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So I'm trying to, wow, that's really echoing.

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I'm recognizing that we've had lots of discussions

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for over a year with the Ministry of Transportation

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economic corridors that they've done multiple public presentations,

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which have been essentially unchanged in the last two

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last year, that they've done them,

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that this is a priority for the government.

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This is something that they want to do.

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And every time they do a public presentation,

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I get calls from people that are really concerned about the safety.

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Really recognizing that this is the most dangerous section.

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I have no people that live in Sylvan Lake and work in red deer that will drive through the city.

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In wintertime, that this curve around the eastern park is really dangerous. And that this is something

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that the government wants to do. There's a challenge here that the eastern park is a really

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special park for us. I was there last week and it was a couple of years ago that I've actually

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seen a white moose in the eastern park. This is one of my favorite spots in red deer. Recognizing

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this is a really valuable piece for our community. Our community values are parks in our trails

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so much. But this is the piece that the province is moving on this. So my motion is trying to balance

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safety and the environmental peace and really specifically wanting administration that if this project

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does go forward to work with administration around the restoration of lost trees and wetlands and

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wildlife corridors and other pieces of those environmental thing which the province has talked about

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maintaining a bunch of that and doing those things as well, but also giving administration the

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recognition that we need to go and negotiate this out.

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That expropriation is possible, but we need to go look for what adequate reasonable fair

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compensation for Parkland for really, really special Parkland in our community is and

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wanting to put that forward and wanting to find a way to do this and that adding some pieces

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to bring this back on September 1st, that administration wants clear negotiating mandate as we set them up,

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and then to have the mayor have a meeting with the Minister of Transportation Economic

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Corridor. It was the next month to find a way to see what that looks like, the mayor

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to minister, and to start that conversation in a good way.

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Thank you, Councillor Cron, Councillor Brisbane, as the seconder did you want to speak to

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this at this point, or didn't have any questions, but I could offer comments now if you

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if you want that at the end. Let's see if there's any questions and I'm recognizing that there is a

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report in our agenda and there may be some questions. Council has regarding that.

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Anyone have questions on the report as presented? Councillor Whiteress?

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Thank you, Mayor. In June, the provincial government to organize the public session in our community.

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And I'm just wondering if we'll have any further conversations with them from their

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learnings and or the question one of the questions that was at the session was raised was about

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Indigenous consultation and anything that we can learn from that as well prior to us making

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any specific decisions or directions. Thank you. Seeing City Manager moved toward her

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mic the buttons right by your thumb. I think you're on actually your life. Can you hear me? Thank you.

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So when it comes to the sessions that were held, we have not received a what we heard report from the province as to summarizing what they learned from that consultation.

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In regards to the indigenous consultation, our administration has been preparing a list of indigenous contacts to be able to provide to the province and encourage that that consultation happened.

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So I look at this as next steps for our city in terms of, for me, it's the question to negotiate or not to negotiate.

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And I'm just wondering if city manager can review what land rights we have, what land rights the provincial government has in terms of next steps.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for the question and through the mayor. We tried to detail some of this in page 19 of your agenda today.

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And that is in regards to that third bullet where it speaks about expropriation.

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Expropriation is a tool that the province, as well as municipalities, have in order to be able to build roads and infrastructure within the province.

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And it's a very technical process that ends when or begins when we have two parties that try to negotiate and they can't come to as type of settlement.

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What then happens under expropriation and in this case, it would be the province that would file an expropriation application.

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That is then heard by a tribunal.

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There are expropriation principles that are covered in the act and it becomes a very objective process.

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And what they often do is they, it takes a lot of time.

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And at the end of the day, they try to come to some middle ground compromise.

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But oftentimes, based on experience, it doesn't feel like a win-win.

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and that by finding the middle ground, often both parties feel in a loose loose, but the

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province does have that right. If we choose not to negotiate to expropriate these lands.

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Thank you, City Manager. From our past experience of red your history, is it advisable to go

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through expropriation or is it best that we be at the table in terms of our direction and where

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want to go. Thank you for the question. It is always our last choice to do an

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expropriation process because often what happens is the parties end up in a poor

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relationship and it takes a lot of time as well as it doesn't consider some of the

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other factors that often we like to have an negotiation. In my experience

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We often get a judgment from the tribunal and that judgment can go in our favor or often times

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it doesn't.

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But it's much better to negotiate rather than have lose your decision-making and your influence

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and give that up to a tribunal.

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Thank you very much.

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And then my final question is just citizens are still sending emails and correspondence

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to us as as as as consult, but I'm wondering is there still openness from the province to receive

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comments from our citizens?

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So, thank you for the question.

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This is a government of Alberta project.

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I know sometimes it's perceived that it is a city project, but this is funded and it is led by the

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And so if comments want to be provided, I would encourage to send them into the province.

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We have been receiving many comments and I see in the resolution that there is a meeting

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the mayor may be asked to have and those are things that the mayor could share as part

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of that meeting, but I'll let the mayor speak to that.

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Thank you.

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Those are my questions here.

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Thank you.

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Councillor.

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Thank you, Mayor Jeffries. My question is just in terms of time frames. Is there

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confidence that we will be able to meet a range of meeting with Minister before September

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1st meeting, and if that isn't able to be arranged, how do we move forward on this resolution?

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It's a really good question. We know that it's August or soon to be, and maybe difficult to nail

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down and I suppose we intentionally could sort that out this week, we'll have make our best

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effort. And I don't know if we want to consider a fallback plan if that's not possible,

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Recognizing our first media

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I think back in September 1, I think.

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My second question was to administration speaking to that September 1, agenda, assuming that it's going to be a lengthy break that agenda will likely be fairly full.

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I'm just wondering if it makes sense to add in point 3 to make it not so timestamp for September 1, maybe give us a little more grace and say by the end of September, which gives us some ability to maneuver with that.

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Because I think that meeting with the minister could really reveal a lot of things as to how we move forward and a lot of information that will be helpful on how we come to a bit of decision point.

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Looks like that's a possibility.

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I would agree.

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I think it could be difficult to nail it down prior to the end of August, so.

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Let's see.

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How's it, Cron?

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The intent was to be able to move forward on this quicker rather than later, but if

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if Calts will want ceases by the end of September for both of us to item, I think we can do that.

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I think we could move forward on the first, you know, the soonest date we can get.

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This would give us flexibility to go a little longer otherwise, as you say, we're in a bit of a

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dead end.

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Yeah, I think it's important we have a decision point by October for sure, but I also don't

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us to try and jump the gun and for something through, especially in August, it's very difficult

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to set up meetings, set up timeframes. And so it's not really, it's not pushing it down the road

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a whole lot in terms of we want to get this sort of out in September and move forward in a good

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way. So it's just giving a little more grace period. I appreciate that, recognizing we have three

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meetings in September as well. So I think that's fine. Thank you for that. Do you have anything else

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I don't know if it makes sense to just propose an amendment to change the wording in point three to added.

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Instead of having an added September 1st Council meeting to add it to a future agenda before October 1st.

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I don't know if that's wording that City Clerk can work with or if that makes sense.

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Yes, consider friendly.

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And so you're friendly.

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Indie by the end of queue.

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Whatever queue we're into.

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That's cleaner.

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End of September.

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End of September.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That works.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Tweedle.

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Thank you.

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Just a question for administration.

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If Council were to direct administration to pursue negotiation, what that would look like

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as far as who would be negotiating with who within our city to the government.

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So through the mayor.

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I believe that first step in the negotiation would be what is listed, I think, in point number four or five,

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where the mayor is to meet with the minister. And then the details of that negotiation would be between

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administration to administration. The negotiation mandate will be set by council. So if we are

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without outside of that mandate, or we need a different mandate, then we would be coming back to council.

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As well, when it comes to land and how the process goes with it, there may be additional

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requirements under the MGA that we need to have in front of council.

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And so this really starts, which could be a long process and have many different steps

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depending on how it proceeds.

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You're a good councilor tweedle.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else on this side?

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I'm related to Councillor Tweedle's question. I'm curious about our bargaining position.

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And obviously a conversation between myself and the minister would be a starting point.

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And then a conversation with council in a future workshop, closed session.

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I guess if I'm a member of the public I'm feeling where's my opportunity in that recognizing we have heard quite a bit from the public through the provinces process and we're looking for their what they heard report.

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Can you speak to that at all.

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Where would the public come back into the fold if you will.

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So through the mayor, we have been receiving a number of letters and comments from our citizens on this issue.

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And so council and administration are always listening and hearing those comments.

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So as we proceed through the negotiation, know that administration has heard them and council.

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When it comes to the MGA, if we are to go through this process to transfer or dispose of land, we are required to advertise that.

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And to be able to, there are some terms of the MGA under that as well.

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If we are to do the final title and survey plan reviews and there's any affected reserve

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land as defined in the MGA, we may be required to have a public hearing at that point.

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And that's where the public would be able to be part of that process.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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I do have a couple of other questions related to the report and wondering about a few

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pieces. I'm not sure what year it was. May have been tied to the city's Centennial in 2013

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that we did upgrades and a significant amount of investment to Mask of a Tune Park.

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You have a dollar value of that. I'm looking at the numbers of the, you know, the assessment

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of the value of what the province is looking to take as far as highway development. And so

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I'm wondering if we've considered that if we have that number available, or I guess for sure

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should we have that number when we come back to council at the future date?

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Sound to coming from everywhere.

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Through you.

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You're okay.

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We have done a little bit of research on that.

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And it's in the annual report of 2013.

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I believe it was a budget of about 2.3 million.

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And I think actuals came out quite a bit less than that.

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But one point, between one point five and two, and so I can't actually confirm whether or not it was granted or fully city funded yet, but I could come back with that in March.

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In my mind, doesn't really matter if it was granted or city funded.

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It's an investment made in our park system and that should be reflected in whatever number we arrive at.

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The other piece I contemplated as I read through the report is

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thinking that if our negotiations end up in a position where the current proposed

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alignments holds true,

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I was wondering about the value of what would remain

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of our part, particularly the mask of a tune part, recognizing that it would

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have significant reduction in size. And so I think of it today and think of

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value today, and then I wonder about how well it functions as a part if it is shrunk, and

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the value of it, the value that it would be then to our...

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Our ask-soup park system at that point, and if we've reflected on that piece at this point or not.

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We've certainly reflected on the impacts to our tree canopy and of the water area and any of the walking paths and trails that were built as part of that renovation and any impacts that are physical.

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There's other things such as noise attenuation, should there be the highway closer to housing or that park or different things that you could consider afterwards.

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We haven't done the analysis on so we'll have some people look into functionality and how the community will impact or how the change will be felt once you're in this space for your September conversation.

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My last question, I think, is have you, as a administration, had any discussion with

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transportation departments, the engineering team on a suggestion that was made at one

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of the public sessions that the government held, with respect to the suggestion that

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it reducing this edespec at the back in the design guidelines, but I think it was suggested

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If we reduce it to 125 versus the proposed 130 kilometers speed spec, that we wouldn't have to take so much of the park.

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And so have you had conversations with their team on that possibility and the feasibility of that.

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So that was also a question that came up at the open house that was held at Festival Hall.

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And in our conversations with the province, they've been very much about building to the ideal design and to look to this horizon of that, you know, 25 years plus if they're making this large of an investment.

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As you go forward and if this resolution passes, I think that is a question you could ask, Mayor,

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at your meeting with the minister, and to get some of that clarification posted on their website,

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because you're getting questions as the city, but I think for your own information,

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it would be good to hear that directly from the province as well.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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comments? I bring up that resolution. Again, perhaps,

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please. Also, do you have comments

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on this? Councillor Conda, do you want to leave?

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I'll close. Councillor Brisbane.

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Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate Councillor Cron, bringing this forward. I think that it offers

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the balance of what you realize of the importance of this park is. But at the same time,

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also realizing that we have to be pragmatic about how we approach this.

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This problem is going to move forward and we better be along with them or at least in front

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of them to be able to get the proper compensation that's required for the loss of this part

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of this park.

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So I appreciate the approach, and I'm also understand that it is summer and that some of

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to, you know, even if it's just a phone call or something like that within the next month would really get us in a good spot ahead of budget discussions.

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So, I will be voting in favor.

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Thank you. Next on our list is Councillor Weinchus, please.

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Thank you very much.

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I attended the June meeting as to some of my colleagues and the Mayor and certainly heard community concerns and needs.

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And for me, this resolution, and I guess for me, it's when do we get to the table, and when do we ensure that our interests are well represented?

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So, for me, I support the resolution and appreciate Councillor Cran's comments about the safety, the environment, remediation, restoration, and certainly recognizing the value of masculine part to our trail system, to our community.

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And at the same time, recognizing what many of us see as challenges of bridge maintenance that need to be addressed along with how the province proceeds.

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So I also concur with City Manager's comments about expropriation and having lived in red here for many years heard stories about individuals on the end of expropriation and it wasn't to their best interest.

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So being at the table for me is very important, rather than leaving it in the hands of a tribunal.

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So I also think the value of the indigenous conversations are important and that our council

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and the city decision makers as decision makers are kept abreast of those.

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I think it's important for our community relationship and look forward to what this motion

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may bring in the future and how we report to the public.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Councillor Goodwin, please.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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I also support the pragmatism involved here.

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We're talking about a very sacred park in an area that people do love.

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There's no two ways about it.

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We're also talking about a 1950s highway in Bridge.

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There's the change is going to happen to those.

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So we really do need to get ahead of what does the community need out of a decision that's

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for lack of a better way of describing it being done to us and for positive reasons and for some reasons

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that they are ignoring what people are asking for and saying.

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So in my stance, I definitely support this, getting the negotiations out ahead, again the

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mean this is important. The budget, the provincial budget is coming. We need our asks to be strong

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and substantial, and I do appreciate the idea that the mayor will be trying to meet with the minister

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and there's a lot of good value that can come. Ultimately, I guess, you know, there's, there's

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people being hurt on this highway at very high rate compared to other stretches of highway.

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And the province is pushing that as their number one premise and ultimately we will be at

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the rim of them and we will lose if we push it and stand obstinate.

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So going forward with a collective voice, still hearing from the community, still hearing from council and using administration's expertise.

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To me, this is the way to go and I will be supporting it.

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Thank you, Councillor Barnes stable.

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Thank you, Mayor Jeffries.

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I'm just a point that we're here today, especially with remembering what we went through in the campaign and hearing from number of individuals.

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and we're still receiving emails from them today, asking us to push harder for mass-petune

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park and the naturalized areas and I was one of those ones that spoke in the campaign about.

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Being a voice for that. You know, it was made clear early on with the province. We had a meeting with them, I believe, in February of this year, early on in our term.

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And I remember posing the question to them, what are our options as council? Are there options to not go ahead of this? Are there options to change the direct way of the highway?

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And really the answer we got back was, no, this is kind of what we're doing.

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This is what we're moving forward with kind of being told to us versus with us.

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And that was one of my concerns I had going in, you know, we do have the option to stand and push back on this.

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But the reality is if we choose to go down that road, I think that there's a likelihood that this is going to happen.

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and you raise with the plan that's been put in place and then you get to go through

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expropriation and then at that point we would likely have the highway move forward and

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with the original plan and we would have nothing for it in return, whereas this now is an

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opportunity for us as council to say it's unfortunate that we're in this position and we have

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to figure what's the best move for for the community and understanding that there likely

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will be some some land loss to mask a tune but hopefully that can be gained in other areas

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across the city and other parkland.

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So as much to say as there is opportunity here,

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it's still a frustrating point to be in this place today,

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especially where we were in the campaign,

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less than a year ago,

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and having the conversations with the community.

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But I've received this presentation from the province

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probably four times now,

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because I was with the Red River Watershed Alliance as well.

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And the presentation has not changed.

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There hasn't been any consultation

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of we're willing to move this way or we're willing to do less.

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It's kind of the province has made up their mind and you don't like being told that this

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02:39:20,540 --> 02:39:22,560
is being done to you versus with you.

430
02:39:22,820 --> 02:39:27,180
So this is an opportunity for us as a council to go on with the mindset of what can we do

431
02:39:27,180 --> 02:39:32,280
for the city, what can we do to for the community that is struggling with this loss of parkland.

432
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:37,300
And so this is a different route that I know that many in the community probably won't agree

433
02:39:37,300 --> 02:39:41,920
with, but understanding where the promise is at and with their decision pretty much already made,

434
02:39:41,920 --> 02:39:47,440
at least there's an opportunity for us to come forward with some new options and hopefully

435
02:39:47,440 --> 02:39:52,540
it's something that will be resolved in the community as looking back 10, 15 years from now,

436
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:56,800
that it was the right decision that the decision we went today. You can't ever know that until

437
02:39:56,800 --> 02:40:02,180
we go forward. So, with all that being said, I regret that I'll be supporting this based on

438
02:40:02,180 --> 02:40:05,360
where I was a number of months ago, but it is probably the best half forward.

439
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:10,220
Thank you very much, Mayor.

440
02:40:10,540 --> 02:40:13,300
And I thank Councillor Cronford for bringing forward this motion.

441
02:40:13,940 --> 02:40:17,900
I think as we take a look at the challenges and the opportunities that are around this,

442
02:40:17,980 --> 02:40:20,600
we need a framework for being able to make the right decision.

443
02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:24,720
So gathering the information, seeing what alternatives are there,

444
02:40:25,520 --> 02:40:29,720
and then gating our community around that to the extent that we can

445
02:40:29,720 --> 02:40:32,320
is an important process for us to do this.

446
02:40:32,320 --> 02:40:37,360
So we realize there are people that have different perspectives across our community around

447
02:40:37,360 --> 02:40:37,980
this.

448
02:40:38,480 --> 02:40:41,440
It does provide some opportunities potentially for right here.

449
02:40:41,860 --> 02:40:46,700
And by having this in place, we can work together on that and when we're ready to make

450
02:40:46,700 --> 02:40:48,420
that decision, it will be well informed.

451
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:49,680
Thank you.

452
02:40:50,600 --> 02:40:52,460
Thank you Councillor Curtis, please.

453
02:40:59,480 --> 02:41:00,420
Thank you, Mayor Jeffries.

454
02:41:01,140 --> 02:41:04,280
And I want to thank Councillor Cronford for bringing this motion forward.

455
02:41:05,580 --> 02:41:13,920
Recognizing the mask it's in park is a special place, so it's just there a couple weeks ago, and it really is it's unlike no other, and

456
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:16,680
Redgear takes great pride in our parks.

457
02:41:17,960 --> 02:41:23,440
It was made clear during the provincial consultations that no matter what this project is going forward.

458
02:41:24,200 --> 02:41:29,320
I heard many of the provincial info and consultation session that the city needs to act as a landlord,

459
02:41:29,320 --> 02:41:37,440
And this resolution balances pragmatism, ensuring the socioeconomic value of this park,

460
02:41:38,360 --> 02:41:44,460
and that that's being considered and ensuring that the city is an environmental steward and advocates for our city.

461
02:41:45,520 --> 02:41:51,580
I look forward to hearing more about Mayor's conversation with the minister to determine the best steps for the city going forward.

462
02:41:51,780 --> 02:41:54,540
And I will be supporting this motion today. Thank you.

463
02:41:55,440 --> 02:41:57,180
Thank you, Councillor Curtis.

464
02:41:58,220 --> 02:41:59,180
Councillor Tweedle, please.

465
02:42:00,620 --> 02:42:01,080
Thank you, Mayor.

466
02:42:01,540 --> 02:42:04,680
Like, Councillor Burns, say, well, I am disappointed to be here.

467
02:42:05,560 --> 02:42:08,060
And looking back to the meeting we had in February with the government.

468
02:42:09,140 --> 02:42:13,720
Part of that presentation, I remember saying to them, because at that point, we were getting so much public feedback.

469
02:42:13,960 --> 02:42:21,500
We still get public feedback to say, like, has been alluded to that they pretty much say this is a done deal that you need to own that.

470
02:42:22,820 --> 02:42:32,240
I'm still waiting for that actual announcement come through the guess what this is what we've decided which I would appreciate if they did.

471
02:42:33,160 --> 02:42:39,180
To the public feedback that happened in June, I would hate to feel like that was just a checkbox.

472
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:44,680
Because to me that's not sincere, public consultation or consultation at all.

473
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:51,120
So we'll see if once the mayor meets with the transportation minister, if there's any, if he

474
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:59,120
lives to any findings that were had throughout that process, I'm at a point where I don't want

475
02:42:59,120 --> 02:43:07,100
the city to be out of or away from the table as discussion continues. My biggest fear is down the road.

476
02:43:07,720 --> 02:43:13,020
We will have had a decision truly made for us without consultation. And when you think when we say

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02:43:13,020 --> 02:43:17,760
ideas the city within a park or park system is so valuable and I do not want to get to the

478
02:43:17,760 --> 02:43:25,860
end of this, where a tribunal makes a decision that leaves us out of having any meaningful

479
02:43:25,860 --> 02:43:33,180
consultation for our citizens, for our city, for our parks. I will be supporting this and I

480
02:43:33,180 --> 02:43:38,840
appreciate the approach that Councillor Cron made because the agenda comes through with a couple

481
02:43:38,840 --> 02:43:40,320
different possible lease from admin.

482
02:43:41,240 --> 02:43:44,220
We either just enter into negotiations or we say no.

483
02:43:44,600 --> 02:43:46,600
And to me, there can be a yes and.

484
02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:49,080
And I appreciate how his motions

485
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:51,680
said yes, you know, look into negotiations.

486
02:43:51,980 --> 02:43:54,160
But these are the things we're still standing for.

487
02:43:54,320 --> 02:43:56,620
We're not willing to just say go ahead with this project.

488
02:43:57,280 --> 02:43:59,360
So again, I'm disappointed to be here.

489
02:43:59,480 --> 02:44:01,560
I'm disappointed in how this was handled

490
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:03,200
from a provincial level.

491
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:05,820
But I will be supporting this.

492
02:44:05,900 --> 02:44:07,360
Thank you, Councillor Twill.

493
02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:10,520
I think that's all of you, except for me.

494
02:44:10,720 --> 02:44:12,140
Can I speak and then you can close?

495
02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:13,160
Do you want to go from now?

496
02:44:13,240 --> 02:44:14,100
You're the mayor, I'll go.

497
02:44:14,320 --> 02:44:14,640
You can close.

498
02:44:14,660 --> 02:44:15,300
This is proper.

499
02:44:16,060 --> 02:44:17,040
That's going to help you along.

500
02:44:17,760 --> 02:44:19,660
So I appreciate colleagues sport on this.

501
02:44:19,660 --> 02:44:20,720
This isn't easy.

502
02:44:21,220 --> 02:44:22,100
Ocean to make, too.

503
02:44:22,260 --> 02:44:23,000
And this is like.

504
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:25,360
Meskipsy Park is still one of my favorite spots in right here.

505
02:44:25,960 --> 02:44:30,320
And I remember when we first moved here to figure out that there's a park without a parking

506
02:44:30,320 --> 02:44:31,200
lawn right here.

507
02:44:31,480 --> 02:44:36,480
Like how did they possibly ever put this together and make this and recognizing this is

508
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:42,180
really special spot. But also, the bridge isn't really bad shape. Last night, everybody

509
02:44:42,180 --> 02:44:46,040
were paddleboarding down the river and got to look underneath that bridge. And I didn't

510
02:44:46,040 --> 02:44:50,000
know my phone to get pictures, but there is cracks and there is concrete patches underneath

511
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:55,680
and it is, oh, we drive on it every day, but it's in rough shape. And this is something that

512
02:44:55,680 --> 02:44:59,600
or community our problems actually needs to not fall apart too.

513
02:45:00,080 --> 02:45:10,280
So, I've worked hard on this motion to balance the peace of the safety and the environment and why it didn't go negotiate and why to make sure that our team negotiates really hard.

514
02:45:10,560 --> 02:45:20,020
And then we find a way to get to a win-win. And I don't know that we know what that looks like yet, but I think we have to come to the table and give it our absolute best shot for the community and for what our city deserves.

515
02:45:21,620 --> 02:45:27,820
Thank you, Councillor Cron, just add a few points. For me, this is a spot where we're

516
02:45:27,820 --> 02:45:34,300
behind or between the pervert reel, rock and a hard place. It's not a position I really appreciate

517
02:45:34,300 --> 02:45:40,020
being in at all. When I look at the bridge, it's older than Councillor Brooman.

518
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:45,760
I've

519
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:52,440
a little bit, recognizing the need to do something. I do have it find a little bit frustrating.

520
02:45:53,440 --> 02:45:58,220
The position of the province has taken through this that there is no option that this is what's

521
02:45:58,220 --> 02:46:05,740
going to happen and kind of with us or without us. So I look forward to future conversations

522
02:46:05,740 --> 02:46:14,200
starting with the minister on where some of that can go. Yesterday, coincidentally, I drove from RDP up to

523
02:46:14,200 --> 02:46:22,100
therapeutic, sorry, recovery community on the north end by on the way to Black Falls. And on I took

524
02:46:22,100 --> 02:46:29,480
highway too. And as I crossed the river, got to the north side of the river. A young loose was

525
02:46:30,480 --> 02:46:40,260
trotting along the fence line heading north parallel to the highway. So definitely we know that there's

526
02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:48,460
life and nature is an important part of that area and you want safety for all and so right now

527
02:46:48,460 --> 02:46:54,340
certainly the situation is not safe not for some people and certainly not for the wildlife along

528
02:46:54,340 --> 02:46:57,520
that corridor that might be something we need to raise in our conversations.

529
02:47:00,720 --> 02:47:01,740
One of the public

530
02:47:01,740 --> 02:47:08,120
questions, if gentlemen approached me and said, you just need to not make a decision, just

531
02:47:08,120 --> 02:47:15,460
sit and wait. And I said, well, I don't know about that. I think the provinces indicated

532
02:47:15,460 --> 02:47:21,380
very strongly that they're going to go ahead and do what they want to do. And that if we

533
02:47:21,380 --> 02:47:30,860
just sit by and wait, we'll have no voice. So I hold, I believe that that's the case. And so

534
02:47:30,860 --> 02:47:36,320
do think we're probably best at least enter into the table and sit down and start some conversations

535
02:47:36,320 --> 02:47:42,140
around what it could look like. For me personally, I have not lost sight of the concept

536
02:47:42,140 --> 02:47:50,640
of the design changing to a standard of 125k versus 130 speed spec. I know that not all members

537
02:47:50,640 --> 02:48:00,840
of council perhaps support that or think it's likely to happen. It's maybe not a matter of

538
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:10,280
their way on this. So I haven't given up on that conversation entirely and we'll see you perhaps

539
02:48:10,280 --> 02:48:14,180
in conversation where that might go and if it's a non-starter.

540
02:48:16,520 --> 02:48:18,000
As I think about the

541
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:23,320
how this could roll out and I don't know for sure I think how important it is for us to

542
02:48:23,320 --> 02:48:29,460
think of the value of our park system to our community and the importance of the environmental pieces

543
02:48:29,460 --> 02:48:42,200
And what we could be potentially giving up, and depending on where we land in my mind, we should be in a position to negotiate

544
02:48:42,200 --> 02:48:54,240
Park for Park if that's what it comes to, and not giving up, not putting it into something else like, I don't know, waste water treatment

545
02:48:54,240 --> 02:49:00,660
Upgrade or something like that, it should stick within the park system and connected to our trail system for sure.

546
02:49:01,900 --> 02:49:09,920
And that it's a significant thing. In my mind, our mask-upatoon park is a significant asset in our community.

547
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:16,900
And so we shouldn't just get a few hundred thousand dollars here or there to do upgrades on little pieces of park,

548
02:49:16,900 --> 02:49:20,520
but that it should be a visible tangible asset

549
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:24,300
that's gained through any negotiation that might take place.

550
02:49:25,880 --> 02:49:29,540
So I'm definitely between that rock and a hard place

551
02:49:29,540 --> 02:49:31,840
but I think we do need to enter into the conversation

552
02:49:31,840 --> 02:49:35,920
or we're going to be left without an ask at the table

553
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:40,600
and without an opportunity to change the conversation

554
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:44,320
or the consideration because they've listened to public

555
02:49:44,320 --> 02:49:50,360
And they don't seem to be wanting to change, so unless we sit down, we won't know.

556
02:49:51,220 --> 02:49:57,340
So I will, with some hesitation, support the motion, thank Councillor Cron, for bringing it forward.

557
02:49:58,820 --> 02:50:09,260
And I'll hope for the best for good discussions with the Minister to kick us off and hope that some consideration can be given to the concerns our community has raised.

558
02:50:11,630 --> 02:50:13,870
And with that, not seeing any other.

559
02:50:13,870 --> 02:50:15,830
I'll call the question,

560
02:50:18,760 --> 02:50:21,720
and I know Councillor Wainches, I don't think you can vote on, can you?

561
02:50:21,760 --> 02:50:25,580
I can now. You can now, okay. I'll call the question, please vote.

562
02:50:34,900 --> 02:50:38,200
Council, that's the anonymous support for the motion.

563
02:50:39,340 --> 02:50:51,680
Thank you. Council, and thank you to the members of our public who've been here and recognizing may not be exactly where you wanted to see this land, but we'll help for better motion's going forward.

564
02:50:53,950 --> 02:50:58,330
And with that, we'll go, we'll skip down to

565
02:51:05,430 --> 02:51:09,210
the consent agenda with respect to the bylaws

566
02:51:09,210 --> 02:51:09,770
Council.

567
02:51:10,530 --> 02:51:12,450
I need to put it to the rate page.

568
02:51:13,030 --> 02:51:22,550
This is with respect to zoning bylaw 33570, 2026, and zoning bylaw amendment 33570, CC 2026.

569
02:51:29,790 --> 02:51:32,110
Now, sir, why just a procedure question, Mayor?

570
02:51:32,210 --> 02:51:33,290
Can we vote on them individually?

571
02:51:34,430 --> 02:51:34,930
Thank you.

572
02:51:34,930 --> 02:51:40,910
Yeah, we could do that, so essentially motion to separate the two we'll call a vote on each.

573
02:51:41,950 --> 02:51:50,510
So, consideration of zoning by-law amendment 3357-22026 and first reading on that piece.

574
02:51:51,330 --> 02:51:53,370
I need to move her in a seconder.

575
02:51:57,620 --> 02:51:59,240
Else there are tweedle counts there, Curtis.

576
02:52:00,860 --> 02:52:01,460
Any comments?

577
02:52:02,700 --> 02:52:03,340
That's okay.

578
02:52:04,200 --> 02:52:05,720
We'll call the question on that one.

579
02:52:06,600 --> 02:52:13,300
That's that into first reading, or seizure, the public hearing to follow, should it pass?

580
02:52:37,570 --> 02:52:59,990
It's all in favor, okay? Results. I'm going to show up for us right now, but I'm just, it's all in favor. So that one passes unanimously moving on. And then we'll go to zoning by law amendment 3357 CC 2026. And I'm looking for a mover and a seconder. Nice to spec, Councillor White, she's must have something to say on this.

581
02:53:02,530 --> 02:53:04,950
Councillor Brisba moves.

582
02:53:08,550 --> 02:53:11,110
Councillor Curtis is a seconder.

583
02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:15,100
Councillor White, just did you have?

584
02:53:16,140 --> 02:53:24,700
Yes, I just recall several conversations that when this Iowa was first put in place to protect the distance for schools for cannabis sites.

585
02:53:25,460 --> 02:53:42,080
So I still remember those and but I will look I will support first reading but I'm very curious in terms of what this means for our community and we'll look forward to the public hearing because I do have some concerns.

586
02:53:42,080 --> 02:53:43,460
Thank you.

587
02:53:43,460 --> 02:53:44,680
Thank you very much, Councillor.

588
02:53:45,220 --> 02:53:46,200
Councillor Barnes-Table.

589
02:53:47,460 --> 02:53:47,940
Thank you, Mayor Jeffers.

590
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:49,980
Thank you, Councillor White-Shows, for severing this.

591
02:53:50,000 --> 02:53:51,420
I was going to sever it as well.

592
02:53:51,960 --> 02:53:53,420
I won't be supporting this.

593
02:53:53,460 --> 02:53:58,600
I know when we went through the zoning bylaw a few years ago, I put forward a motion to extend

594
02:53:58,600 --> 02:54:01,840
the radius from having these retail stores closer to schools, and that wasn't supported

595
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:02,320
at the time.

596
02:54:03,320 --> 02:54:07,400
But I understand it's just first reading, but I have seen the comments that are in the

597
02:54:07,400 --> 02:54:09,280
package, as well as just where I stand.

598
02:54:09,820 --> 02:54:11,580
Individualness, I won't be supporting this at first reading.

599
02:54:11,580 --> 02:54:12,520
Thank you.

600
02:54:12,560 --> 02:54:12,740
There.

601
02:54:13,420 --> 02:54:14,360
Councilor Broomer, please.

602
02:54:15,200 --> 02:54:18,680
Thank you very much in the opportunity to vote on this and first reading.

603
02:54:18,820 --> 02:54:20,460
I will be opposed to the resolution.

604
02:54:21,360 --> 02:54:22,020
Thank you.

605
02:54:22,660 --> 02:54:23,580
Anyone else?

606
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:27,780
Seeing none, I'll call the question on first reading.

607
02:54:50,760 --> 02:54:57,680
May the past 7-2 with Councillor Broomer and Councillor Bunstable voting again.

608
02:54:57,880 --> 02:54:58,420
It's okay.

609
02:54:58,540 --> 02:54:59,760
Thank you very much for the summary.

610
02:54:59,760 --> 02:55:15,980
appreciate that. So we'll see that back in the in the in the future in the fall, I guess that'll come by and now we'll move to item 6.1 and that is the Western or exposition association annual financial report.

611
02:55:17,820 --> 02:55:19,520
And go ahead city manager, please.

612
02:55:19,520 --> 02:55:21,200
Thank you, Mayor.

613
02:55:21,980 --> 02:55:26,500
We're on page 54 of your Council agenda package today.

614
02:55:27,640 --> 02:55:34,480
Back in January of 2025, Council passed a resolution that asks that an annual financial

615
02:55:34,480 --> 02:55:39,460
update on the Westerner Exhibition Association be brought forward to Council.

616
02:55:39,580 --> 02:55:44,820
So this is the second year that we're bringing this annual update to you.

617
02:55:44,820 --> 02:55:51,960
I'd like to welcome Shelley Flint, who is the Chief Executive Officer in our gallery today,

618
02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:58,620
as well as President Brad DuFrain of the Westerner Board that is also joined us today.

619
02:55:59,320 --> 02:56:04,360
I'd also like to acknowledge that we have two counselors that are on the board for the

620
02:56:04,360 --> 02:56:10,520
Westerner and that's Councillor Buruma and Councillor Brisbane, as well as I sit on the board

621
02:56:10,520 --> 02:56:17,160
as a city liaison, so I'm a non-voting member of the board and have some specific duties

622
02:56:17,160 --> 02:56:19,440
under our relationship framework agreement.

623
02:56:20,820 --> 02:56:25,540
The report in front of you today is for information, but I wanted to take the opportunity

624
02:56:25,540 --> 02:56:33,820
to thank the Westerner and particularly their board and staff for working hard to close that

625
02:56:33,820 --> 02:56:38,460
annual operating gap and to continue working with the city.

626
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:46,600
Shelly does have a presentation as well as Sam Mugford, our chief financial officer, who

627
02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:51,020
will pass to next also has a presentation for you today with much more detail.

628
02:56:51,780 --> 02:56:54,740
The report in front of you is an information report.

629
02:56:55,180 --> 02:57:02,140
However, I wanted to add a resolution there that signals that work really needs to be done

630
02:57:02,140 --> 02:57:05,100
until March 31, of 2027.

631
02:57:05,100 --> 02:57:12,920
We have a lot to do and I wanted to formalize that in a resolution so that our public is aware that the

632
02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:18,640
Westerner and the city are working together and to provide that formal direction to administration.

633
02:57:19,400 --> 02:57:24,780
So with that Mr. Mugford, I invite you to the podium.

634
02:57:27,410 --> 02:57:30,870
It looks like you're from our angle. It looks like you're just behind the TV.

635
02:57:34,160 --> 02:57:36,140
Good afternoon, Mayor and Councillor.

636
02:57:37,960 --> 02:57:43,660
This report provides the annual financial updates on the Western Air Exhibition Association

637
02:57:43,660 --> 02:57:44,960
as directed by Council.

638
02:57:45,660 --> 02:57:50,500
We've got a few brief opening remarks at which point I will shall be Flint at the CEO

639
02:57:50,500 --> 02:57:56,680
of Westerner will provide a presentation on the impact the UAA has for our community.

640
02:57:57,740 --> 02:58:02,640
First off, I'd like to note just a minor error in my report in page 56.

641
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:11,600
So I'm preparing my commentary. I'd taken a figure from WA's draft financial statements and error from the draft to the final version of statements.

642
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:19,040
There's only got a week that had had passed, but to some of the expenses were reclassified from indirect to event expenses.

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Over all there's no difference in WA's bottom line, but it does slowly modify the subtitles in some of the commentary on the statement of operations.

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So, for the year ended March 3, 2021, 2020, sex revenues increased modestly from $2,6,012,6,000,000, from $2,033,000.

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Supported by the first fully-year, campground operations and growth in other revenue streams.

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Overall, expenses increased by $120,000,000, which resulted in an improvement on the deficiencies of revenue over expenses before other revenue line.

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from prior year of $165,000. Despite receiving less grant funding from the previous year,

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WAH achieved a small annual surplus of approximately $5,000. The liquidity also improved

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considerably within cash increasing to $3.8 billion and reliance on short-term borrowing

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reduced almost zero. These results demonstrate a continued operational discipline and

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improved financial management. That said, long-term financial sustainability will require

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continued revenue growth, prudent cost management, and careful oversight.

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The current relationship framework agreement expires from March 31, 2027, alongside

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WAA's three-year business plan.

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Administration is therefore recommending that Council direct to complete additional analysis

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and strategic assessment by the first quarter of 2027.

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This work will evaluate available options and provide Council with the information needed

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to make informed decisions while protecting the city's financial interests.

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The recommendation before Council.

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Our to receive the report for information and direct administration to complete that analysis for council's consideration, prior to the expiry of the current agreement.

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With that, I'll pass over to Shelley for her presentation after which council can direct any questions they have to her, and that administration will take any questions you have on our report and recommend it motion. Shelley?

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Well, come and thank you very much to both of you for being here.

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Appreciate it.

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You keep it.

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Happy?

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Yeah.

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Thank you very much and I'm here to do the presentation and he's here to answer any questions.

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All the tough ones.

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All the tough ones.

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And emotional support.

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That's right.

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So good afternoon, Mayor Jeffries, members of Council and administration.

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Thank you for the opportunity to be here today to share Westerner Parks 2025 to 2026 annual update.

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Over the past year, Westerner Park has continued to strengthen its role as Central Alberta's premier gathering place.

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Bringing people together through agriculture, entertainment, sport, business and community events,

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While creating meaningful economic and social impact for Reddier and Central Alberta,

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we have welcomed new events, strengthened partnerships, and invested in our facilities,

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and remain focused on being responsible stewards of this very important community asset.

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Today, we would like to share some of those highlights through the theme of this year's annual report, Community Built Impact Ribbon.

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Those four words are more than our annual report theme.

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They represent our commitment to building experiences

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that strengthen our community and deliver measurable value

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to red deer and central Alberta.

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So we want to start by taking a look at Westerner Park today.

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I'm going to give you another job that's going to be in the quicker.

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So before I share some of the highlights of the past year,

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I'd like to take a moment to provide a snapshot of Westerner Park today.

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While many people know us through our signature events, like Westerner days, we are so much

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more than a five-day fare. Westerner Park is a year-round destination where agriculture,

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business, entertainment, sport, and community come together. Each year, we welcome approximately

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1.5 million visitors and host more than 1,000 events. Those events range from international

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agricultural trade shows and conferences to concerts, sporting events, fundraisers,

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meetings, celebrations, and community gatherings. Those activities generate an estimated

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$150 million in annual economic impact to our region. While supporting tourism, local businesses,

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employment and quality of life throughout Central Alberta. None of that would be possible

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without the people behind the scenes.

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Our team includes 66 full-time employees,

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199 casual employees, and many dedicated volunteers,

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who work together to create memorable experiences

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for our guests, and support the organizations

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that call Westerner Park Home.

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Together, those numbers tell a story

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of an organization that is active every day of the year,

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creating opportunities for connection,

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economic growth and community impact.

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With that foundation in mind, I'd like to share some of the highlights from this past year.

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Strong communities are built through strong partnerships.

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And this past year, we were proud to welcome Marchant Crane as the naming rights partner

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for the Marchant Crane Centrium.

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This partnership represents far more than a name on a building.

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It reflects the local business investing in a community organization that has served central

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Alberta for more than 130 years. That investment strengthens Westerner part today,

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while helping ensure this important gathering place continues to serve our community for

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generations to come. Above all, it is a vote of confidence in Westerner part, our mission,

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and the future we're building together. Partnerships like this make everything we do possible.

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They help create the experiences, the traditions, and the memories that bring people together year after year.

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There is no better example of that than Westerner days.

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Westerner days remains the heart of who we are as an organization and one of Central Alberta's most cherished traditions.

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For five days in July, Westerner Park becomes the gathering place for our community,

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where generations come together to celebrate egg, entertainment, and traditions that connected

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families for more than 130 years. This year's fair brought together returning favorites, like

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egg venture, kid venture, the market, the junction, the North American pony check wake, and the

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cherry races while introducing new experiences like the May TV. Creating new opportunities to celebrate

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Indigenous culture and heritage and a meaningful and engaging way.

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We were also proud to welcome back share the fair, through the partnership with Ronald

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McDonald's, charities Alberta, ensuring even more families and importantly those that

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can't come to the fair have an important opportunity to experience the magic of Western

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days. At its heart, Westerner days is about making memories. Maybe it's the child's first ride

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on the midway. Maybe it's sharing a candy apple with your grandchild. Maybe it's watching

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the checkway and thunder around the track, singing along at a concert or discovering something

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new together. Those memories may seem small, but they become the stories that families tell,

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and the traditions they pass from one generation to the next.

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Behind every one of those moments is what community built truly means.

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Sponsors, exhibitors, volunteers, entertainers, competitors, community organizations,

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and our staff all come together to create an experience that simply wouldn't be possible otherwise.

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While traditions that define Westerner days remain at its core, we continue to introduce

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new experiences that welcome new audiences while preserving everything our community has come to love.

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Because Westerner days is more than a fair, it's where communities come together,

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it's where traditions continue, and where lasting memories are made.

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One of our most exciting milestones this year was the launch of the inaugural Red Year Pro-Rodial.

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Well, Rodial has long been part of Alberta's identity. This event represented an opportunity

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for a Westerner Park to create something new that celebrates the Western heritage while

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strengthening our year-round programming. The response from competitors,

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Officers, volunteers, and spectators exceeded our expectations, and demonstrated that there is tremendous enthusiasm for professional rodeo in central Alberta.

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Beyond the excitement in the arena, the radio pro rodeo attracted visitors to our community, supported local businesses, and further strengthened our reputation as a destination for premier western events.

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Most importantly, it's show what can happen when strong community partners, dedicated volunteers, and incredible staff team come together around a shared vision.

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We are proud of what we accomplished in year one because it really demonstrates what's possible when the community comes together.

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That's exactly what community built looks like in action.

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While our longstanding events remain at the heart of Westerner Park, we're equally committed

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to creating new traditions that bring people together throughout the year.

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Skidjoring quickly established itself as a unique winter event, blending our Western

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hair, Western heritage with an outdoor adventure, as a free community event.

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It introduced new audiences to Westerner Park while showcasing our ability to create distinctive

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year-round experiences.

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from the athletes and the horses on the course to the food trucks, the local vendors,

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the families gathered along the sidelines. The day was filled with energy, excitement,

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and community spirit. We're also proud of the success of the inaugural Westerner rally

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cars and kids. And event that perfectly captured the community bill looks like in action.

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More than a showcase of incredible vehicles, it brought together car enthusiasts, volunteers,

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sponsors and community partners to create unforgettable experiences for young co-pilots and their

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families. Through the leadership of the Westerner Foundation and the support of our community,

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the rally became the beginning of a new tradition built on generosity and connection.

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Another exciting success was the ultimate holiday party. Now entering its third year,

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it quickly became a signature event for Westerner Park. Giving local businesses an

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organizations and opportunity to celebrate the season together while creating a festive

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tradition that continues to grow every year. Together these events demonstrate our commitment

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to innovation while staying true to who we are. They attract new audiences, they strengthen

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our community connections, and they ensure that Westerner Park remains a vibrant destination in

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every season.

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None of that, none of what I share today would be possible without the incredible

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people who generously give their time to Westerner Park. Just like Brad here. This year,

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207 volunteers supported our events. They welcomed guests assisted behind the scenes and helped

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create the experiences so many people enjoy every year. Whether they're helping at Westerner days,

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the pro rodeo, aggregate, or one of our many other events our volunteers are often the first

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this first-mile, our guests see and the lasting impression that they take home.

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Their passion, dedication, and community spirit are woven into everything we do.

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When people invest their time, their energy, and their passion, into Westerner Park, the

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result, is impacted extends far beyond our gates.

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Impact comes in many forms, sometimes it's measured by economic activity, sometimes it's measured

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in opportunities created, and sometimes it's measured by the vibrancy of the community.

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Throughout the year, Western New Park Health bring that vibrancy to life through concerts,

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sporting events, family entertainment and community celebrations.

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For Marianna's trench to country throw down to monster truck spectacular and read your

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Rebels hockey, our facilities welcome thousands of guests seeking entertainment, excitement

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and experiences that enrich the life, their life, and central Alberta.

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These events do more than fill seats.

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They create opportunities for local business, they support tourism, they attract visitors

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to our region, and contribute to the energy and vitality of our community.

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They give people reasons to stay local, to reasons to visit, and reasons to invest in

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the place that we call home.

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That is impact.

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Not just in attendance numbers, but in creating a region where people want to live, work,

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race families, and build businesses.

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We're proud of the role that Westerner Park continues to play in making central Alberta

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of vibrant and thriving community.

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Community impact takes many forms.

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Vibrancy is one.

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Economic and industry impact is another, and nowhere is that more evident than in agriculture.

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While entertainment and community events contribute to the vibrancy of our community, agriculture

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remains the heart of Westerners impact. For more than four decades, Agritrate has connected

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producers, manufacturers, innovators, industry leaders, creating opportunities that extend beyond

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the three days of the show. This year, Agritrate reached new milestones. Featuring the largest

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outdoor exhibit space in our event's history. Sold out indoor and outdoor exhibits.

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And more than 500 exhibitors showcasing the latest in equipment, technology, and innovation

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shaping the future of egg. What continues to impress me most is the reach of this event.

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Visitors and exhibitors traveled to Westerner Park from Australia, China, Germany, Northern Ireland,

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Nigeria, the Philippines, Japan, Mexico, the UK, the United States, and communities across Canada.

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So if you think about that for a minute, business and industry leaders from around the world

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came to Red Deer, Alberta, to build relationships, explore new technologies, and invest in the future

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of ag. That level of participation speaks not only to the reputation of ag retreat,

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but to the strength of Canadian agriculture and the important role that Central Alberta continues to play with it.

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The impact of agritrade expands beyond our grounds.

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It supports the economic activity, strengthens industry connections, encourages innovation,

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and helps ensure egg remains strong for future generations.

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That impact is a regional, national, and increasingly global scale.

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That level of impact doesn't happen without confidence from our partners, our community and those who choose to invest in Westerner Park's future.

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So one of the strongest indicators of impact is confidence.

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Confidence from our community, our partners and the organizations that choose to invest in Westerner Park.

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This past year we are grateful to receive support through provincial and federal funding programs,

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along with investments from community and industry partners who recognize the important role

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that Westerner Park plays in Central Alberta.

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Those investments help us improve our critical infrastructure and enhance the guest experience.

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Strengthen our ag mandate and ensure facilities continue to meet the needs of our growing community.

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For me, these investments represent confidence in our mission, our team and the future of Western

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Park. But investment is only part of the equation, equally important is how we steward those resources

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and generate the revenue needed to sustain our operations year after year.

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Westerner Park operates under one of the large under, operates under one of the highest cost recovery models among comparable exhibition associations in Canada.

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Today, 89% of our operating costs are covered through earned revenue, just 11% coming from provincial and federal government support.

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That means every event we host, every sponsorship we secure, and every business opportunity

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we create, helps to reduce our reliance on other funding, while maximizing the return

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on public investment.

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That reflects an organization that has worked hard to diversify its revenue streams and maximize

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every opportunity to generate its own income.

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But it also highlights an important reality, facilities like ours aren't simply event venues.

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There is essential infrastructure that generates economic activity, supports agriculture,

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strengthens tourism, and provides a gathering place for our region.

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Across Canada, facilities like ours rely on ongoing municipal, provincial, and federal investment,

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because of value they create, extends, bar beyond our own balance sheet. Our goal isn't

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simply to operate successfully. It's to ensure Westerner Park remains of vibrant asset in our

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community for generations to come. Our financial results help demonstrate both the strength of our

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operating model and the importance of continued investment. Our audited financial statements show an

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eventual and federal support we achieved in net contribution of 5,152.

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Those grants allowed us to address important capital priorities while continuing to manage

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expenses and generate the vast majority of our operating revenue ourselves.

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Looking ahead, one of our greatest opportunities is to establish a more sustainable approach

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to facility renewal, ensuring we can move beyond addressing immediate needs and continue

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protecting this important community asset for future generations.

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These results reinforce why a balanced funding model matters.

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Earned revenue marimanes the foundation of our operations.

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While government and partner investment helps us maintain and improve the community infrastructure

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we have been entrusted to operate.

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As we look ahead, our focus remains I'm building a stronger, more vibrant Westerner park that

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our community here round. We'll continue expanding our event portfolio by strengthening the

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experiences our community already knows and loves while introducing new opportunities to attract

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visitors throughout the year. That includes exciting events already on the horizon,

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such as Brian Adams. Did you know he's coming to town? The central Alberta Dream Drive,

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October Fest, Agra-Tradic Whitman Expo, the Festival of Trees, and our ultimate holiday party,

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We'll continue investing in our facilities and infrastructure, including projects that expand

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year-round capacity, improve the guest experience, and ensure Westerner Park is ready to meet the

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needs of a growing region. At the same time, we'll remain focused on financial sustainability

861
03:18:50,260 --> 03:18:56,200
by growing earned revenue, expanding sponsorship opportunities, and building partnerships that

862
03:18:56,200 --> 03:19:02,000
create long-term value. Every initiative we undertake is guided by the same

863
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:08,720
goal. Ensuring Westerner Park continues to be the place where agriculture, business, entertainment

864
03:19:08,720 --> 03:19:13,440
and community come together to create lasting impact for Central Alberta.

865
03:19:14,620 --> 03:19:18,780
So today we've shared the story of Westerner Park that continues to evolve while remaining

866
03:19:18,780 --> 03:19:23,580
through to its purpose. We've highlighted the events that bring our community together,

867
03:19:24,360 --> 03:19:29,340
the agricultural traditions that define our region, the partnerships that make our work

868
03:19:29,340 --> 03:19:33,900
possible and the responsible stewardship that supports our long-term sustainability.

869
03:19:35,260 --> 03:19:40,020
We've also demonstrated the impact that Westerner Park has beyond our gates, creating

870
03:19:40,020 --> 03:19:45,760
economic activity, supporting local business, strengthening A and providing a place where

871
03:19:45,760 --> 03:19:49,920
our community comes together to celebrate, connect, and grow.

872
03:19:50,660 --> 03:19:55,340
We've shown that this impact is delivered while operating under one of the strongest costs

873
03:19:55,340 --> 03:19:59,960
recovery models among comparable exhibition organizations in Canada.

874
03:20:00,940 --> 03:20:06,140
This reflects our commitment in maximizing earned revenue, while being responsible stewards

875
03:20:06,140 --> 03:20:07,500
of public investment.

876
03:20:08,260 --> 03:20:12,000
As proud as we are, what we've accomplished, our focus is firmly on the future.

877
03:20:12,780 --> 03:20:18,500
With continued collaboration, strategic investment, and strong partnerships will continue building

878
03:20:18,500 --> 03:20:22,580
opportunities that benefit Central Alberta for generations to come.

879
03:20:22,580 --> 03:20:30,300
community-built impact driven. Those four words again more than a theme. They reflect who

880
03:20:30,300 --> 03:20:36,120
we are, why we exist, and the commitment we make to our community we serve every day.

881
03:20:36,760 --> 03:20:42,200
Thank you for your continued partnership and support, and Brad would be happy to take

882
03:20:42,200 --> 03:20:42,920
any questions.

883
03:20:45,880 --> 03:20:51,560
Thank you very much for the presentation. I really appreciate hearing a bit of an update. Council

884
03:20:51,560 --> 03:20:56,580
recognizing today is really about the financial update, even though we've just put a whole bunch

885
03:20:56,580 --> 03:21:01,080
of excitement on your plate with all of the good happening so that the Westerner try to

886
03:21:01,080 --> 03:21:05,400
keep your questions to the financial pieces if you can, unless there's a burning question you

887
03:21:05,400 --> 03:21:12,600
really need to ask with respect to all of the excitement. Shelley has just presented to us.

888
03:21:13,140 --> 03:21:15,320
Are there questions, Councillor Broomer?

889
03:21:16,700 --> 03:21:20,360
Thank you very much for the presentation and all the good work that's happened at Westerner

890
03:21:20,360 --> 03:21:23,180
I particularly appreciate some of the new opportunities.

891
03:21:24,160 --> 03:21:26,860
One of those that Westerner days was the May tea village,

892
03:21:27,020 --> 03:21:29,420
which I think was a really important addition to that.

893
03:21:29,580 --> 03:21:30,500
So thank you.

894
03:21:31,100 --> 03:21:36,160
In our report on page 71 of our agenda,

895
03:21:36,660 --> 03:21:38,520
it speaks to the major maintenance fund.

896
03:21:38,680 --> 03:21:41,060
And you've spoke a bit about some of those challenges

897
03:21:41,060 --> 03:21:46,720
in terms of having the financial ability to maintain our assets.

898
03:21:46,940 --> 03:21:49,080
Now, I wonder if you might dive a bit deeper

899
03:21:49,080 --> 03:21:56,440
to guard in regards to the importance of that fund, the need for more dollars for that and what kind

900
03:21:56,440 --> 03:21:57,880
of projects that supports.

901
03:22:01,840 --> 03:22:09,120
Okay, so the major maintenance fund is, you know, is for handling any of the major maintenance

902
03:22:09,120 --> 03:22:16,980
that might come up on the park. So this fund has been under value, it's less than the reserve

903
03:22:16,980 --> 03:22:22,660
fund should be. And so until we get the reserve fund back up to a value that we

904
03:22:22,660 --> 03:22:27,000
really should be, we have not been drawing on that fund. And we've been using all of

905
03:22:27,000 --> 03:22:29,980
our operating operations to do all.

906
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:34,600
All of the maintenance on the park. So, where we can, we seek grants, we seek matching grants,

907
03:22:34,820 --> 03:22:41,900
we seek support for all of the major activities, major maintenance activities that we have on

908
03:22:41,900 --> 03:22:48,000
park. You know, one of the most recent ones you would have heard of is the ice plant. So, you know,

909
03:22:48,140 --> 03:22:54,820
centriums, a large building, and so you need ice. And so, our ice plant, just we had to redo our

910
03:22:54,820 --> 03:23:00,160
It's now located outside of the centrium and that's a $1.5 million investment.

911
03:23:02,070 --> 03:23:03,770
Thank you.

912
03:23:03,770 --> 03:23:04,630
Thank you.

913
03:23:05,030 --> 03:23:07,050
But, Councillor Goodwin, please.

914
03:23:09,600 --> 03:23:10,260
Thank you, Mayor.

915
03:23:10,840 --> 03:23:12,340
And thank you both for being here.

916
03:23:13,160 --> 03:23:14,340
There's a lot going on.

917
03:23:15,840 --> 03:23:16,240
Uh, financially.

918
03:23:17,180 --> 03:23:20,240
One of my biggest questions that popped up is

919
03:23:20,240 --> 03:23:24,680
Rent is somewhere in the order of 60% of the income.

920
03:23:24,680 --> 03:23:36,420
And the Rebels license for the centrium is coming due May 31st, 2027, what is the status and what happens if they don't renew?

921
03:23:38,920 --> 03:23:52,160
Well, we are beginning negotiations on the new contract with an intention to renew with the Rebels, so negotiations will be starting soon.

922
03:23:52,160 --> 03:24:00,380
And, and should they not renew, you know, they, they would require approval to move the teams somewhere else.

923
03:24:00,560 --> 03:24:02,360
They can't just decide that on their own.

924
03:24:03,260 --> 03:24:07,100
And then we would look at other options for renting the arena.

925
03:24:08,640 --> 03:24:09,760
Okay, thank you.

926
03:24:10,140 --> 03:24:18,960
I was just curious about a plan B that is a pretty big base of the pyramid there.

927
03:24:18,960 --> 03:24:25,760
So, also, when I'm going through the numbers, I notice, and I'm hoping you can help me reconcile.

928
03:24:26,580 --> 03:24:33,760
So, the indirect expense figures on page 56 say that indirect expenses are down,

929
03:24:34,240 --> 03:24:38,380
but the audited numbers on 65 show them up.

930
03:24:40,840 --> 03:24:50,340
Is that, like, no, 19 talks about reclassified comparatives, is that what happened there, or?

931
03:24:50,360 --> 03:24:52,340
I'm going to direct that over to Mr. Munkford.

932
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:53,420
Yes, Mr. Munkford.

933
03:24:53,680 --> 03:24:53,820
Thank you.

934
03:24:54,660 --> 03:24:56,880
Through the mayor, Councillor Goodman, that.

935
03:24:57,580 --> 03:25:03,560
In my opening comments, I'd initially had two sets of statements over and I was preparing my report.

936
03:25:03,680 --> 03:25:05,590
One of them was the draft statements, which I'd gone to.

937
03:25:05,590 --> 03:25:13,710
that we raise all the committee on the 12th, subsequent to that when the final statements were

938
03:25:13,710 --> 03:25:20,430
approved, there was a reclassification between the lines of administrative marketing and

939
03:25:20,430 --> 03:25:24,030
arc maintenance under indirect expenses and event expenses.

940
03:25:24,890 --> 03:25:30,650
So that's why in our report, my comments were that some of the commentary, some of the numbers

941
03:25:30,650 --> 03:25:37,670
on page 56 have changed, and that's because I was always using the prior version of the

942
03:25:37,670 --> 03:25:42,330
statements. There's no impact on the bottom line, so at the end of the day, the excess revenue

943
03:25:42,330 --> 03:25:48,410
over expenses was unchanged, the deficiency of revenue over expenses before the revenue.

944
03:25:48,630 --> 03:25:51,910
None of those figures changed, nothing changed the balance sheet. It was a reclassification.

945
03:25:52,790 --> 03:25:57,910
So again, my apologies for the incorrect information in the report, the Audited Financial

946
03:25:57,910 --> 03:26:02,630
statements stand. I'm also had that this is a very common thing during the audit process.

947
03:26:02,870 --> 03:26:10,150
I know that similar to the city over time as we, you know, make changes to our

948
03:26:10,150 --> 03:26:15,450
classifications and direct for prior misclassifications and make it like that, you will see

949
03:26:15,450 --> 03:26:22,930
those changes happen over time. So in this case, both the 2026 and the 2025 figures were restated

950
03:26:22,930 --> 03:26:24,710
between their draft version.

951
03:26:26,770 --> 03:26:27,610
OK, thank you.

952
03:26:28,170 --> 03:26:29,510
That satisfies the question.

953
03:26:29,570 --> 03:26:31,230
I appreciate it.

954
03:26:32,270 --> 03:26:34,870
And I'll be cognizant of the ten minutes

955
03:26:34,870 --> 03:26:36,470
without the timer going here.

956
03:26:38,070 --> 03:26:44,370
So the repayment formula and the repayment is keyed to EBITDA.

957
03:26:45,090 --> 03:26:49,650
Has administration modeled whether the formula has written

958
03:26:49,650 --> 03:26:54,650
It's about, retirees the 18.6 million by 251.

959
03:26:55,750 --> 03:27:00,230
Like will that walk it down if we keep basing it on EBITDA,

960
03:27:00,970 --> 03:27:04,650
or are we going to have to redo that?

961
03:27:06,650 --> 03:27:14,170
By looking at Mr. Munford or City Manager, perhaps one should be live, I think.

962
03:27:15,410 --> 03:27:19,430
I can start and then pass it over to Mr. Mugford for the details.

963
03:27:19,430 --> 03:27:32,570
In the additional resolution that is asked for, you'll see that there is language in regards to review of the current loan agreements and repayment options.

964
03:27:33,650 --> 03:27:45,710
One of the pieces that we need to consider is there have had a relief for making payments until April 1st of 2027.

965
03:27:46,290 --> 03:27:53,130
And in doing that, there is also some connection as to the two separate loan agreements.

966
03:27:54,670 --> 03:27:58,710
And wanting to, as they look forward for a new three year business plan,

967
03:27:59,250 --> 03:28:04,950
make sure that we're working to help support the city as well as support the Westerner and their needs.

968
03:28:05,170 --> 03:28:06,930
So we've asked for a reviewed.

969
03:28:08,310 --> 03:28:14,310
When those agreements were put in place, we were at a different time in a different context at the Westerner.

970
03:28:14,310 --> 03:28:25,650
So, not sure which solutions are at this point, but just acknowledging that we need to have that conversation and look if there are another way to do that.

971
03:28:26,370 --> 03:28:27,610
Do I miss anything, Sam?

972
03:28:30,930 --> 03:28:43,670
No, I guess I would just add that from an audit perspective, we just cautious in terms of the terminology that we use around the status of the loan.

973
03:28:43,670 --> 03:28:55,230
So again, I'll direct you to the notes of our financial statements, that's where we have all the detail that we've got around this in terms of modeling and things like that, like that's, you know, further discussion.

974
03:28:56,970 --> 03:29:09,550
Okay, great. And I'll just keep it to one more. Back to as Councillor Brooma was asking about the major maintenance fund. One of the things that I noticed is that the fund grew by interest only.

975
03:29:11,070 --> 03:29:19,210
So, if no allocations were made, does the Note 6 provision requiring the Westerner annual budget

976
03:29:19,210 --> 03:29:23,150
to come to City Council for approval now apply?

977
03:29:23,450 --> 03:29:26,210
So, Note 6, I mean, I had marked where it was.

978
03:29:42,530 --> 03:29:43,730
Are you asking a question?

979
03:29:44,630 --> 03:29:45,650
Yeah, that was the question.

980
03:29:45,650 --> 03:29:46,130
Oh, sorry.

981
03:29:46,390 --> 03:29:47,390
You can't find it.

982
03:29:47,410 --> 03:29:51,990
I was just trying to find, Note 6, but I can't find it on my.

983
03:29:51,990 --> 03:29:53,450
I was anticipating you.

984
03:29:53,450 --> 03:29:55,290
And actually, I'm waiting.

985
03:29:56,030 --> 03:29:56,170
Sorry.

986
03:29:56,910 --> 03:29:57,490
So with the...

987
03:29:57,490 --> 03:29:59,770
Of any one relationship framework agreement.

988
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:15,320
There are specific reporting requirements and approvals that council needs to make. One of the pieces around the capital plan is that they have to share their capital plan with the city.

989
03:30:15,320 --> 03:30:27,320
And I have to share that with Council and then if they deviate from that plan I also have to share it with you and if there's any purchases over a certain amount, I also need to

990
03:30:28,160 --> 03:30:33,440
have contact with Shelley and to analyze that as well.

991
03:30:33,800 --> 03:30:35,620
Okay, thank you very much. That's all for now.

992
03:30:35,820 --> 03:30:36,800
Thank you very much.

993
03:30:37,100 --> 03:30:38,480
Councillor White, just please.

994
03:30:39,160 --> 03:30:40,880
Thank you, Shelley and Brad for the report.

995
03:30:40,880 --> 03:30:46,180
Thank you to your board members to my colleague council reps who sit on it. Our city manager and staff

996
03:30:46,180 --> 03:30:52,680
It can be sometimes a heavy file in over the years. Thank you for your work and to the volunteers as well

997
03:30:53,040 --> 03:30:59,560
I appreciated the stat you talked about 11% support of through government funding and 89% through earned revenue

998
03:30:59,560 --> 03:31:07,280
And you just speak to the climate of egg societies in Alberta and maybe across Canada the competitiveness for

999
03:31:07,280 --> 03:31:12,620
or securing events and how we're uping our game for Westerner?

1000
03:31:13,980 --> 03:31:17,040
Yeah, I mean, it is a challenge for

1001
03:31:17,040 --> 03:31:18,760
ag societies across Alberta.

1002
03:31:19,140 --> 03:31:22,700
Westerners are part of regional ag societies within Alberta.

1003
03:31:23,820 --> 03:31:26,240
And a number of, you know,

1004
03:31:27,380 --> 03:31:32,240
Lethbridge was used to be an ag society just onto its own.

1005
03:31:32,700 --> 03:31:36,220
You see the financial implications of them not being able to achieve

1006
03:31:36,220 --> 03:31:40,000
their abilities to repay their loans and

1007
03:31:40,000 --> 03:31:43,100
separate out event management from an

1008
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:44,140
agsociety.

1009
03:31:44,660 --> 03:31:46,920
And so you see that in some of the

1010
03:31:46,920 --> 03:31:47,420
locations.

1011
03:31:47,740 --> 03:31:49,560
It's also happened in Edmonton.

1012
03:31:49,920 --> 03:31:52,560
And we also reflect on what has happened in

1013
03:31:52,560 --> 03:31:54,180
reality and in Regina.

1014
03:31:54,700 --> 03:31:57,920
So similarly, having difficulty when it becomes

1015
03:31:57,920 --> 03:32:00,420
to trade show spaces.

1016
03:32:00,780 --> 03:32:04,020
So trade shows do not typically pay enough

1017
03:32:04,020 --> 03:32:11,700
in order to use the facilities, and so it provides an economic benefit to the region.

1018
03:32:12,220 --> 03:32:15,160
It's not sufficient for supporting the agsociety.

1019
03:32:15,960 --> 03:32:21,060
So, you know, we subsidize those by all of the other activities that we do.

1020
03:32:21,680 --> 03:32:24,080
And you see that happening throughout Canada.

1021
03:32:24,080 --> 03:32:28,120
There's only one, you know, really trade show event space in Canada.

1022
03:32:28,300 --> 03:32:31,000
That is self sufficient when it's in Toronto.

1023
03:32:31,660 --> 03:32:37,040
And, Shelley, can you speak to how our conversations were having with the provincial government

1024
03:32:37,040 --> 03:32:38,480
in terms of recognized that?

1025
03:32:38,760 --> 03:32:43,320
Well, obviously the city has recognized our support for Westerners and continue to do that.

1026
03:32:43,560 --> 03:32:45,980
Where are we out with the provincial government conversations?

1027
03:32:48,870 --> 03:32:50,630
Or what you know, what you don't know.

1028
03:32:52,090 --> 03:32:54,710
Our conversation with the premier went well.

1029
03:32:55,150 --> 03:33:00,570
She acknowledged that Westerners and there's a few other facilities that are different than a lot of the other

1030
03:33:00,570 --> 03:33:04,870
societies and they're looking at that currently, but to no decision has been made.

1031
03:33:05,950 --> 03:33:06,510
Thank you.

1032
03:33:06,890 --> 03:33:10,530
And just, you talked about scheduling the ski journey event free.

1033
03:33:11,430 --> 03:33:15,630
I want to congratulate you for that, because many citizens with these days are having

1034
03:33:15,630 --> 03:33:20,630
a challenge with the affordability for events, so having free events like that, you're to

1035
03:33:20,630 --> 03:33:21,650
be recognized for that.

1036
03:33:21,730 --> 03:33:22,650
So thank you very much.

1037
03:33:23,090 --> 03:33:29,750
My next question is just about sometimes often Council has delays or extensions to events

1038
03:33:29,750 --> 03:33:34,370
or any issues, and I'm just curious in terms of our relationship framework agreement.

1039
03:33:34,730 --> 03:33:42,870
How confident are you in terms of reaching an agreement between the city and the Westerner by March 3th,

1040
03:33:42,950 --> 03:33:43,730
it's 2027?

1041
03:33:47,370 --> 03:33:49,370
I'm not sure who should answer it.

1042
03:33:49,410 --> 03:33:51,470
Where are you putting on the spot, Councilor Watchers?

1043
03:33:53,310 --> 03:34:07,930
Well, we'd like to introduce those discussions with the city and it seems the city is amenable to, you know, also reaching that so we're hoping that we can get something done before the end of March.

1044
03:34:08,850 --> 03:34:15,250
In the meantime we continue to run the park and create events that will help us be more financially sustainable.

1045
03:34:15,250 --> 03:34:22,530
Thank you. I appreciate some of your creativity such as the renting of the camp ground and

1046
03:34:22,530 --> 03:34:29,570
new revenue there. So good wishes on your creativity and opportunities that are available

1047
03:34:29,570 --> 03:34:34,610
for both the city and for Western. Thank you, Councillor. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor

1048
03:34:34,610 --> 03:34:35,930
wine. Just Councillor Brisbane, please.

1049
03:34:38,560 --> 03:34:40,840
Thank you, Mayor. And thank you very much for the presentation.

1050
03:34:41,780 --> 03:34:46,460
I'm on the Western board. So I have a little bit of insight into some of these. But you know,

1051
03:34:46,460 --> 03:34:51,500
I've been on the western board for about long and this financial statement I think is quite

1052
03:34:51,500 --> 03:34:56,540
a bit better than what we've seen in the past so it's in the black this time which is

1053
03:34:56,540 --> 03:34:58,420
fantastic to be able to see that.

1054
03:34:58,640 --> 03:35:02,380
So you start to talk about some of this but I was wondering if you could speak to some of

1055
03:35:02,380 --> 03:35:16,180
the high level changes that you've made from an operations standpoint to be able to get the

1056
03:35:16,180 --> 03:35:23,940
recovery plan. And that plan talked to introducing additional events, looking at the profitability

1057
03:35:23,940 --> 03:35:31,840
of all of the events that we do run, reducing the staff count that we had and really scrutinizing

1058
03:35:31,840 --> 03:35:39,860
every dollar of spend that we have. So, you know, by really tightening everything that we spend

1059
03:35:39,860 --> 03:35:46,080
any pennies on, including, you know, I think it's time for new boardchairs, maybe, in the future,

1060
03:35:46,480 --> 03:35:52,220
if anybody who sat in our board meeting knows that these are falling apart, you come early

1061
03:35:52,220 --> 03:35:57,860
so that you can get a chair that's not going to fall off. But we have really, we've really worked

1062
03:35:57,860 --> 03:36:06,960
to tighten any expenditure that we have and where we're staff, you know, left to go for other

1063
03:36:06,960 --> 03:36:11,140
opportunities we really scrutinize, whether or not that's a backfill position, it's really

1064
03:36:11,140 --> 03:36:16,580
got to be revenue generating. So it's doing everything, looking at the financials, to make

1065
03:36:16,580 --> 03:36:21,800
that happen. And then also looking at opportunities with our community where community has

1066
03:36:21,800 --> 03:36:26,800
identified that they'd be really interested in certain kinds of events, you know, like the

1067
03:36:26,800 --> 03:36:34,160
radio, and then working with the community and all of our sponsors and the volunteer committee

1068
03:36:34,160 --> 03:36:40,240
that we have for the rodeo to really try and get sponsorship, to support bringing those kinds of events

1069
03:36:40,240 --> 03:36:45,940
to back to red deer. That, you know, on the scheduling, we know that red deer kind of like some

1070
03:36:45,940 --> 03:36:52,660
wild things. So that seemed like a great wild event to bring to bear. So we, we work to bring that

1071
03:36:53,440 --> 03:37:00,640
bring that forward. So there will be more, more to come. And another question, I think be more

1072
03:37:00,640 --> 03:37:06,460
administration. So just curious on the resolution that you have in front of us. How does this

1073
03:37:06,460 --> 03:37:11,460
work time to the strategic planning that we are currently underway with the Western Park?

1074
03:37:17,250 --> 03:37:23,850
So through the mayor, I believe everything that's happening in regards to strategic planning will

1075
03:37:23,850 --> 03:37:29,970
help also with the renewal of a three year financial plan or a business plan moving forward.

1076
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:46,400
As well as that also relates then to the loan agreements and the relationship framework agreement. So everything is coming together and March 31st is that date where we have all those things that are supposed to be up for renewal.

1077
03:37:47,140 --> 03:37:56,020
And rather than looking at them individually, I do think this has to be done as a package looking at what's the future of that park.

1078
03:37:56,020 --> 03:38:12,080
So, it's been wonderful to see the Westerner Board work with community stakeholders to come up with the four draft visions, and now it's a matter of putting some legs under building those draft visions out.

1079
03:38:13,140 --> 03:38:25,980
So, but I guess specifically how is the city going to run this next part?

1080
03:38:25,980 --> 03:38:31,220
than to the Xi Jinping and the feasibility plan that is underway with the Western Park.

1081
03:38:32,300 --> 03:38:38,160
So when it comes to the resolution, it speaks to the review of the loan agreements and

1082
03:38:38,160 --> 03:38:40,100
what needs to happen there.

1083
03:38:41,020 --> 03:38:44,640
The other piece is around in the relationship framework agreement.

1084
03:38:44,700 --> 03:38:50,540
We have some very specific roles that have been identified as to what council will need to

1085
03:38:50,540 --> 03:38:55,300
do in building out the master plan and what that master plan must entail.

1086
03:38:55,300 --> 03:39:01,480
So, Council is to set what the key elements of that master plan are, and that's very specific in there.

1087
03:39:02,040 --> 03:39:13,800
So, there's more to come as we start down this process, but it is working together through that and getting some legs underneath it to make it happen.

1088
03:39:14,400 --> 03:39:15,420
Thank you for the clarification.

1089
03:39:17,420 --> 03:39:18,760
Thank you, Councillor Brian Stable.

1090
03:39:18,760 --> 03:39:21,920
Thank you, Mayor Jeff, first thank you for your presentation today.

1091
03:39:22,560 --> 03:39:29,360
I want to ask a question that's kind of probably what, uh, be on the minds of the general public in terms of the financial situation.

1092
03:39:31,020 --> 03:39:36,640
Looking at your financials and understanding you've tightened really, you've done a great job tightening

1093
03:39:36,640 --> 03:39:42,940
and you've also done a great job of increasing revenue and rentals and having really a successful year.

1094
03:39:42,940 --> 03:39:45,800
but in all of that, and all the work that's put into it,

1095
03:39:46,000 --> 03:39:49,760
there's still just a very modest profit at the end of the year.

1096
03:39:50,700 --> 03:39:55,620
So looking at a path forward and understanding just some of the debt

1097
03:39:55,620 --> 03:39:56,680
that's there as well.

1098
03:39:57,380 --> 03:39:59,940
What's a sustainable path forward for the Westerner?

1099
03:40:00,520 --> 03:40:02,660
What can the community expect on terms of that?

1100
03:40:02,800 --> 03:40:05,360
I know that you're doing a lot of things to try and get us there.

1101
03:40:05,840 --> 03:40:08,360
And I understand that, but even after doing all that,

1102
03:40:08,440 --> 03:40:10,180
it was just a small profit.

1103
03:40:10,520 --> 03:40:12,620
So is there other items that are in the plan?

1104
03:40:12,620 --> 03:40:14,660
I know you're working through your strategic plan,

1105
03:40:15,720 --> 03:40:18,680
but is it going to be completely reliant on grants moving forward?

1106
03:40:19,500 --> 03:40:21,480
What's maybe your vision for the path forward?

1107
03:40:24,030 --> 03:40:24,890
It's a great question.

1108
03:40:26,690 --> 03:40:29,010
I, you know, showing her team are working very hard.

1109
03:40:29,390 --> 03:40:32,750
Obviously, to make the park sustainable on its own and get the revenue,

1110
03:40:33,410 --> 03:40:38,790
but realistically, with capital expenditures that we need for repairs and maintenance, et cetera,

1111
03:40:39,610 --> 03:40:43,330
we want to build anything after the strategy plan is put together.

1112
03:40:43,330 --> 03:40:50,590
and the new buildings for support or whatever they may be, we're going to need outside support.

1113
03:40:51,150 --> 03:40:56,210
I mean, the money that they raise really is just to keep the operations going.

1114
03:40:57,490 --> 03:41:02,330
And you talked about us being one of the top ones in Canada, in terms of an exhibition,

1115
03:41:04,250 --> 03:41:06,870
spot that other communities work with.

1116
03:41:06,870 --> 03:41:10,350
Is there anything that you've learned from kind of doing that research and working down the road?

1117
03:41:10,350 --> 03:41:15,470
what they've been able to do financially, or are those other exhibition centers also heavily

1118
03:41:15,470 --> 03:41:17,750
rely on grants and outside funding.

1119
03:41:18,590 --> 03:41:22,070
I'm just kind of maybe giving you, trying to plug it, is there, is there some sort of outside

1120
03:41:22,070 --> 03:41:25,930
the box solution, or is it pretty much what kind of set and stone with the path forward

1121
03:41:25,930 --> 03:41:28,870
and things need to go, the bounces need to go the right way?

1122
03:41:30,390 --> 03:41:32,030
I'd say there's two, two things.

1123
03:41:33,050 --> 03:41:39,990
One is, as you look at other ag societies, they do receive a significant portion of their

1124
03:41:39,990 --> 03:41:45,310
revenue as grant revenue, a much higher than what Westerner does.

1125
03:41:46,030 --> 03:41:48,970
And we are relative to most of the other

1126
03:41:48,970 --> 03:41:53,230
societies in Alberta, we are much bigger than a lot of them.

1127
03:41:53,310 --> 03:41:57,170
But even, societies like the Calgary Stampede

1128
03:41:57,170 --> 03:42:00,910
receives significant government support.

1129
03:42:02,950 --> 03:42:06,110
As far as our future goes, the board is working

1130
03:42:06,110 --> 03:42:15,490
on long-term strategic plan vision, looking towards our 150th anniversary in 14, 15 years.

1131
03:42:16,810 --> 03:42:23,850
And so they are working on what are options for Western Park as we go forward, what are

1132
03:42:23,850 --> 03:42:28,290
the different visions that might support a sustainable future?

1133
03:42:28,610 --> 03:42:31,150
Yeah, so they're currently working on it.

1134
03:42:31,150 --> 03:42:35,730
And then just one final question, and this has been bounced around with within our council,

1135
03:42:36,150 --> 03:42:38,630
and I don't know what you'll be able to speak to it, but I know we have world juniors

1136
03:42:38,630 --> 03:42:43,090
coming to the Westerner and understanding that those contracts, there's a lot of different

1137
03:42:43,090 --> 03:42:47,570
places where as much as we'll see people in the seats there might not be as big of a revenue

1138
03:42:47,570 --> 03:42:52,710
generator for the Westerner as maybe the public would expect because there's many different contracts

1139
03:42:52,710 --> 03:42:59,850
where other entities see that revenue. So can you maybe just give a quick explanation as to what,

1140
03:42:59,850 --> 03:43:03,370
Let's, if things were to go perfectly as planned and I know I don't want to say that because

1141
03:43:03,370 --> 03:43:04,990
the last time we had it, it didn't.

1142
03:43:06,030 --> 03:43:11,990
But what kind of revenue is that in your projections, is that going to be a big boon or

1143
03:43:11,990 --> 03:43:17,450
is it just sort of, it will be a nice, it will be a nice boost to what's in the plan as

1144
03:43:17,450 --> 03:43:17,950
well.

1145
03:43:20,460 --> 03:43:24,580
I, you know, the big impact that you're going to see from world juniors will be felt within

1146
03:43:24,580 --> 03:43:25,240
the community.

1147
03:43:26,440 --> 03:43:31,520
You know, so hotels, you know, all of the restaurants out there, you know, even

1148
03:43:31,520 --> 03:43:37,360
shopping when people are coming to town. So a lot of the impact you're going to see there, we

1149
03:43:37,360 --> 03:43:43,120
will for sure we'll get rental revenue and we're for sure going to have expenses. So, you know,

1150
03:43:43,220 --> 03:43:49,560
world, the world juniors doesn't bring their own group of washroom cleaners. All of that, all of

1151
03:43:49,560 --> 03:43:55,260
those kinds of activities that all comes back onto the park. That's good. Yeah, that's good. It will be

1152
03:43:55,260 --> 03:44:00,820
good. It'll be good for us and I think it'll increase the exposure of the Martian crane

1153
03:44:00,820 --> 03:44:07,560
centrium because you'll be hearing it seeing it. So I think it'll increase the exposure. That will be good for

1154
03:44:07,560 --> 03:44:12,640
red. You're just in and amongst itself and good for the park. You know, that's good to know. I think just from the

1155
03:44:12,640 --> 03:44:16,740
public perspective they think of seeing all that coming forward that there's a big check coming to

1156
03:44:16,740 --> 03:44:21,540
Westerner but I just want to get that clear that it's more the economic benefit to the community than it is to

1157
03:44:21,540 --> 03:44:27,820
the actual ground. So I just wanted that verified as well. So those are my questions. Thank you.

1158
03:44:28,740 --> 03:44:30,500
Councillor Tweetle, thanks for your patience.

1159
03:44:32,260 --> 03:44:33,440
That's okay, I wasn't going anywhere.

1160
03:44:34,020 --> 03:44:34,440
Thank you, Mayor.

1161
03:44:34,700 --> 03:44:35,880
Thank you, too, for being here.

1162
03:44:35,920 --> 03:44:39,140
I hope you've had a chance to get a breath or two since Western days ended.

1163
03:44:39,440 --> 03:44:42,280
Councillor Brisbane ought to have most of where I wanted to go with this.

1164
03:44:42,940 --> 03:44:44,180
But just I know it's in the report.

1165
03:44:44,360 --> 03:44:50,020
There was, like, significant improvements both operational efficiencies by 11.4%

1166
03:44:50,020 --> 03:44:51,860
and operating deficiency by 38.6%.

1167
03:44:52,500 --> 03:44:55,820
And to use spoke already as some of those changes that might have brought that.

1168
03:44:55,820 --> 03:44:59,980
If you feel confident moving forward with it, whether changes or learnings from the past.

1169
03:45:02,700 --> 03:45:09,920
We're always looking at the events that we're running and what's working most effectively or what needs to be improved.

1170
03:45:10,680 --> 03:45:25,960
So, every time we run an event, we're looking at how many people participated in the event, what our food and beverage sales might have been, what the set-up costs are, or how we can set it up a little bit differently in order to save some expense. So we're constantly learning.

1171
03:45:27,260 --> 03:45:32,300
So, some of those learnings will have, again, next year, right?

1172
03:45:32,540 --> 03:45:36,640
And also to you spoke with the significant impact for Redgear's community, right?

1173
03:45:36,840 --> 03:45:39,880
That we see beyond Western or Park, the Profits.

1174
03:45:41,280 --> 03:45:45,520
How much work or partnership do you have with Redgear Tourism to kind of coordinate those efforts

1175
03:45:45,520 --> 03:45:48,820
and realize best opportunities for everyone involved?

1176
03:45:49,880 --> 03:45:55,120
So we work very closely with Redgear Tourism and I am on the board of Redgear Tourism.

1177
03:45:55,920 --> 03:46:02,360
So, yeah, we're trying to always trying to bring events to Redier in an economically viable way.

1178
03:46:04,200 --> 03:46:04,640
Thank you.

1179
03:46:05,220 --> 03:46:06,680
Thank you, Councillor Goodwin, please.

1180
03:46:07,620 --> 03:46:08,180
Thank you.

1181
03:46:08,380 --> 03:46:13,020
I do have quick couple of followups that have been prompted from some of the other questions.

1182
03:46:13,900 --> 03:46:18,160
When I discuss the question about the rebels being the anchor,

1183
03:46:18,160 --> 03:46:28,140
And then I also noticed that receivables were up by 16 percent, but growth, 68 percent are concentrated in three parties.

1184
03:46:29,180 --> 03:46:40,820
And then when I go further down there where gate food, beverage and sponsorship all three are down, rental income and commissions are up.

1185
03:46:40,820 --> 03:46:58,270
Is this conscious operational differentiation to go towards more of the landlord model than the producer model, or is this the way things are?

1186
03:46:58,650 --> 03:47:03,410
And as you talked about your long-term plan, we'll try to pull things like that into balance.

1187
03:47:04,650 --> 03:47:12,410
So, we continue to try to encourage our rental income rental income for us is the lowest risk

1188
03:47:13,170 --> 03:47:15,010
kind of income that we can have.

1189
03:47:15,610 --> 03:47:20,850
If there aren't enough rentals or if there is an is a gap in the entertainment space within

1190
03:47:21,190 --> 03:47:25,110
Redger, then we look at what kind of event that we can put on.

1191
03:47:25,550 --> 03:47:30,950
Our first preference is to have rental income and have someone else put on the events

1192
03:47:30,950 --> 03:47:34,970
at the park, but where there's a gap, that's where we put on the events.

1193
03:47:35,890 --> 03:47:42,130
Okay, so it is a conscious move from the gate, the food, the beverage, and sponsorships,

1194
03:47:42,490 --> 03:47:45,230
then towards being more of the landlord.

1195
03:47:46,070 --> 03:47:53,650
Yeah, yes, and also when there is a concert, you know, when there's a concert that comes,

1196
03:47:53,830 --> 03:47:58,250
then you're going to see a big surge, and if you looked at our financial see a big surge

1197
03:47:58,250 --> 03:48:02,930
in ticketing revenue, but you're also going to be seeing a big surge in expense because we have

1198
03:48:02,930 --> 03:48:08,730
to pay for the entertainer. So, you know, a concert might, you'll see the big increase in

1199
03:48:08,730 --> 03:48:14,730
tickets, but, you know, on the expense side, I might be paying 100,000 or more for that entertainer.

1200
03:48:15,510 --> 03:48:21,980
Okay, that's great. That's good enough for me. Thank you very much. I guess you're good.

1201
03:48:21,980 --> 03:48:24,960
Hey, Councillor Cron, please.

1202
03:48:25,740 --> 03:48:32,540
This is good to see you again. I appreciate the report. I appreciate the progress that's been made and sort of tracking through our in the second year of the three year business plan.

1203
03:48:33,240 --> 03:48:38,640
One of the pieces that you explained to us last year when you came was that you were running really thin on the HR side.

1204
03:48:38,980 --> 03:48:46,020
And that that was going to be unsustainable. I didn't see that specifically addressed that report. So I'm wondering how the HR side is going for the park right now.

1205
03:48:46,020 --> 03:48:56,120
Yeah. We do try to keep our vacancies as long as possible, but, you know, we still have some vacancies on the park.

1206
03:48:56,940 --> 03:48:59,560
But our intention is to fill those roles.

1207
03:49:01,160 --> 03:49:07,120
Yeah, we're just trying to be really tight and lean on all of our expense.

1208
03:49:07,580 --> 03:49:09,160
Okay. Thank you.

1209
03:49:09,820 --> 03:49:13,260
Thank you very much. I just have one question. I think it goes perhaps to City Manager.

1210
03:49:13,260 --> 03:49:22,740
With respect to the work that's looked at in the resolution and approach motion, the loan

1211
03:49:22,740 --> 03:49:29,280
agreements and possible repayment options, as well as the relationship framework agreement.

1212
03:49:29,700 --> 03:49:33,700
Can you just speak to how that will come about?

1213
03:49:34,060 --> 03:49:37,100
Is that in conversation with the Westerner?

1214
03:49:37,360 --> 03:49:39,300
What will their participation be?

1215
03:49:39,300 --> 03:49:44,960
Will it be with us and will it be together or will it be us driving the bus?

1216
03:49:45,080 --> 03:49:46,280
I guess is what I'm getting to.

1217
03:49:47,020 --> 03:49:52,980
Through the mayor when it comes to the loan agreements, we'll do our internal assessment as the

1218
03:49:52,980 --> 03:49:59,600
holder of the loan and then we will have conversations with the Western or intent is to do

1219
03:49:59,600 --> 03:50:04,680
what's best for city and Western if we can find a win-win in there.

1220
03:50:04,680 --> 03:50:14,160
But we need to do some analysis and then reach out to the Shelley from admin to admin.

1221
03:50:14,840 --> 03:50:16,740
When it comes to the relationship framework agreement,

1222
03:50:16,740 --> 03:50:20,180
it's not mentioned in the resolution because we had a prior resolution

1223
03:50:20,940 --> 03:50:27,500
where we extended the timeline and said we would come back by March 31, 2020.

1224
03:50:28,760 --> 03:50:30,620
Thank you very much.

1225
03:50:31,120 --> 03:50:32,460
Not seeing any other questions.

1226
03:50:32,460 --> 03:50:39,940
Thank you both for being here and for your presentation and responding to all those questions.

1227
03:50:41,900 --> 03:50:44,460
Council, we need a mover and a seconder.

1228
03:50:58,690 --> 03:50:59,930
Councillor Curtis, Councillor Tweedell.

1229
03:51:00,170 --> 03:51:00,930
Thank you very much.

1230
03:51:02,070 --> 03:51:02,730
Comments, Council.

1231
03:51:06,980 --> 03:51:08,560
I'm looking forward to that.

1232
03:51:08,760 --> 03:51:09,780
I can't see you.

1233
03:51:09,960 --> 03:51:10,640
Councillor White, please.

1234
03:51:11,900 --> 03:51:15,740
I know my colleague, Councillor Bruma, often reminds us of this.

1235
03:51:15,740 --> 03:51:22,560
And it also is germane to Councilor Barnes-Cable's comments about the $150 million impact that

1236
03:51:22,560 --> 03:51:23,900
Westerner Park has.

1237
03:51:24,820 --> 03:51:30,640
And I was a counselor at the table when the original loan agreement came.

1238
03:51:30,660 --> 03:51:35,420
I was the council at the table when we extended the loan payment.

1239
03:51:35,960 --> 03:51:41,520
So this is a heavy file and a very significant file for our city and our community.

1240
03:51:41,520 --> 03:51:47,760
But I often think, as I think, back of why the Council of the Day made the decision to support

1241
03:51:47,760 --> 03:51:52,380
Westerner arc, is because we need an event facility in our community.

1242
03:51:52,760 --> 03:51:55,720
And what would our community look like if we didn't have it?

1243
03:51:56,080 --> 03:52:01,760
And I appreciate this financial statement compared to previous the last one.

1244
03:52:02,120 --> 03:52:08,720
And the ongoing work that administration and our colleague council reps will have in the coming

1245
03:52:08,720 --> 03:52:12,300
month as we look to that important date.

1246
03:52:14,600 --> 03:52:20,750
I think that Westerner Park, I heard today and here in the community and see it that they're trying very hard.

1247
03:52:21,760 --> 03:52:29,400
And so how do we set ourselves up for success? Us is the city? Us is Westerner Park, so we have that.

1248
03:52:30,000 --> 03:52:38,780
Community space, that is so valuable. Again, the important comment that Shelley talked about was the government funding.

1249
03:52:39,700 --> 03:52:49,180
But there is more than one government in here. We have ourselves, we have the province and of course the federal government. So any roles that they can play in terms of supporting.

1250
03:52:50,300 --> 03:52:57,820
The other point for me is the value of agratrade, agratrade began in red deer, and the importance

1251
03:52:57,820 --> 03:52:58,680
of it continuing.

1252
03:52:59,640 --> 03:53:06,320
And we think about food production in our world, and we bring it down nationally, locally,

1253
03:53:06,480 --> 03:53:07,720
regionally in our province.

1254
03:53:08,260 --> 03:53:10,680
We have a lot to be able to be proud of.

1255
03:53:10,880 --> 03:53:19,160
And so for agratrade to bring forward those equipment, their showcasing, it is really something

1256
03:53:19,160 --> 03:53:23,660
that red deer can be proud of. So I hope that that continues as well in terms of the future

1257
03:53:23,660 --> 03:53:30,100
opportunities. And along with the point of that I made to Shelley and Brad about the value

1258
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:36,000
of affordability for a community, people want to be able to participate in events and I recognize

1259
03:53:36,000 --> 03:53:42,060
what they have had during Western or Days in the philanthropy supports for kids to ride.

1260
03:53:42,460 --> 03:53:47,180
If you think back, you know, when I was a farm kid in Central Alberta, I looked forward to

1261
03:53:47,180 --> 03:53:53,580
to your fair. And I smile when Shelley's talked about the candy apple or the rides and the

1262
03:53:53,580 --> 03:53:59,560
memories, because that's what we create at community events like Western or Park and the

1263
03:53:59,560 --> 03:54:05,320
Red deer exhibition. So I accept the report and look forward to the conversations that

1264
03:54:05,320 --> 03:54:10,660
we'll bring us forward and to other decisions. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Wangis. Go to

1265
03:54:10,660 --> 03:54:12,040
Councillor Goodwin, please.

1266
03:54:12,920 --> 03:54:13,960
Thank you very much.

1267
03:54:14,820 --> 03:54:18,820
And I can't echo strongly enough the sentiments

1268
03:54:18,820 --> 03:54:21,200
that the Westfender is so valuable,

1269
03:54:21,860 --> 03:54:23,440
red deer and central Alberta.

1270
03:54:24,320 --> 03:54:27,740
It's very promising to see the numbers improving.

1271
03:54:29,700 --> 03:54:32,540
And as part of my analysis of the numbers,

1272
03:54:32,740 --> 03:54:35,580
I always try to look at what are we dependent on

1273
03:54:35,580 --> 03:54:40,080
and how are we growing in terms of being able to freely grow

1274
03:54:40,080 --> 03:54:42,400
in the event of a big change.

1275
03:54:42,980 --> 03:54:46,380
So I do appreciate that that's being talked about.

1276
03:54:47,020 --> 03:54:48,860
Overall, it is a positive report,

1277
03:54:49,180 --> 03:54:53,520
and it is, hopefully, we'll continue for a long, long time

1278
03:54:53,520 --> 03:54:56,460
to be a mainstay here in Red Deer.

1279
03:54:56,900 --> 03:54:58,540
So I will also support.

1280
03:54:59,300 --> 03:55:01,160
Thank you, Councillor Burns, table, please.

1281
03:55:01,680 --> 03:55:02,180
Thank you, Mayor Jeffery.

1282
03:55:02,180 --> 03:55:03,460
As I've said this before,

1283
03:55:03,560 --> 03:55:04,960
and other times we've talked about the Westerner,

1284
03:55:05,240 --> 03:55:08,160
but if the Westerner didn't exist in Red Deer,

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I likely wouldn't be a red deerian because it was another main reason not the facility itself,

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but without that facility, I know I wouldn't have come into red deer in 2009, and I wouldn't

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03:55:18,860 --> 03:55:21,700
want to come back because I would have never experienced what red deer was.

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03:55:23,680 --> 03:55:28,260
So, you know, this has been a heavy financial file for a while, I'm very thankful for the work

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that's been done over the past year to get us into a place where it's positive for once

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03:55:33,820 --> 03:55:37,180
in a long time, but there is a lot of heavy lifting left at the table.

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I'm looking forward to hearing what the strategic planning comes up with in the next number

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of months.

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03:55:43,000 --> 03:55:47,260
And hopefully there's no sidewalks idea that can get us there.

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03:55:48,500 --> 03:55:54,680
I know that across Canada, this is something that, you know, the conversation between

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03:55:54,680 --> 03:56:00,360
an ag facility versus an exhibition hall and kind of we get into that difficult place where

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03:56:00,360 --> 03:56:02,560
we're the funding probably should be in terms of grants.

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03:56:03,400 --> 03:56:07,160
But we do rely heavily on the province and the federal government as well to keep us

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03:56:07,160 --> 03:56:13,860
the city has done the heavy lifting for a while on this file and we're losing out of any

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03:56:13,860 --> 03:56:18,500
strength to carry the weight anymore and so we hope for our government partners to come

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03:56:18,500 --> 03:56:22,920
forward in a good way and also for the Westerners well to come up with some outside the box

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03:56:23,440 --> 03:56:27,680
thoughts that that might guess over the hump as well. So looking forward to seeing that March 31st

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03:56:27,680 --> 03:56:32,280
but obviously this is an entity within our city that is extremely valuable and I don't think

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the community would realize what red deer would look like without the Westerner. Those are my comments.

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03:56:38,060 --> 03:56:38,940
Thank you.

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03:56:39,060 --> 03:56:40,000
Councillor Brisbane, please.

1306
03:56:42,620 --> 03:56:43,020
Thank you, Mayor.

1307
03:56:44,440 --> 03:56:46,880
Yeah, echo what my colleagues have said so far.

1308
03:56:47,000 --> 03:56:50,600
And I think that, you know, it's an exciting time for the Westerner right now.

1309
03:56:51,440 --> 03:56:53,060
Going through the strategic plan.

1310
03:56:53,320 --> 03:56:55,140
It's a very strong board in place.

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03:56:55,480 --> 03:56:56,920
Shelley's leadership had demonstrated.

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03:56:57,000 --> 03:56:59,420
You know, to be able to get this back on track financially.

1313
03:57:01,180 --> 03:57:03,880
You know, there's just, there's a lot of upside here.

1314
03:57:03,880 --> 03:57:09,150
and there's a lot of energy to in the community and seeing where we can get to and so

1315
03:57:10,120 --> 03:57:15,300
it's in the right spot now but I think the potential for it to grow, there's some real

1316
03:57:16,220 --> 03:57:22,400
momentum around that and everybody wants to see it succeed. So I'm hopeful for where we can go

1317
03:57:22,400 --> 03:57:27,960
with this and look forward to and very sad to be part of the group that gets to be involved to

1318
03:57:27,960 --> 03:57:33,840
with the strap plan and everything, everything else in that space. What really struck me though about

1319
03:57:33,840 --> 03:57:38,440
presentation and something that we don't shouldn't forget about is the economic impact that

1320
03:57:38,440 --> 03:57:44,580
this has to the community. And so what are we investing as a city to into making sure that

1321
03:57:44,580 --> 03:57:49,800
that that then continues in that space? And so, you know, something to consider because it's,

1322
03:57:49,800 --> 03:57:54,380
you know, as she said, doesn't really show up on their balance sheets, but it's, but it's massive

1323
03:57:54,380 --> 03:58:01,560
to our community. Thank you, Councillor Burruma, please. Thank you very much,

1324
03:58:01,560 --> 03:58:08,680
One of the great events Westerner Park had this year was the scheduling event and I remember when I was on site for that

1325
03:58:09,160 --> 03:58:12,520
I thought oh, it's a lot of me

1326
03:58:12,520 --> 03:58:20,220
And there were a lot of people that's scheduling, but it represents what Westerner Park is because on that very day we had a bull cell

1327
03:58:20,220 --> 03:58:22,580
We had a life memorial for an individual

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03:58:22,580 --> 03:58:27,520
We had a graduation or Canadian professional account certified for

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03:58:27,520 --> 03:58:34,760
contents. We had an RV show that was on a reptile sale that was on. We had over 10,000 people

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03:58:34,760 --> 03:58:41,940
at Westerner Park on a Saturday. Imagine a memories that are created by that. Imagine the impact

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03:58:41,940 --> 03:58:47,040
that has when you have those individuals that are coming from around Central Alberta and coming

1332
03:58:47,040 --> 03:58:52,100
to Westerner Park as that gathering cities that also the purchase is not that they make.

1333
03:58:52,920 --> 03:58:56,700
I will say, and I've shared with Council, this is a heavy file. This is a challenging

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03:58:56,700 --> 03:59:02,080
I'll give them the work that's involved in it, and I appreciate Councilor Wynton's mentioning.

1335
03:59:02,700 --> 03:59:10,920
The tough times that this has been, but I do believe that we're on a positive course in regards to meeting the financial needs for that,

1336
03:59:10,920 --> 03:59:12,520
and there's still a lot of work to do.

1337
03:59:12,960 --> 03:59:21,600
The other thing that I was really impressed with over the last couple of years is the quality of board members that we have been able to recruit

1338
03:59:21,600 --> 03:59:27,780
and excited to be part of that. Some of our new board members are bringing new perspectives

1339
03:59:27,780 --> 03:59:33,120
to the way it's done. They have incredible skills that are helping us work and solve some of

1340
03:59:33,120 --> 03:59:38,600
the challenges and the issues of Westerner part. So I'm grateful for that. I know that the

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03:59:38,600 --> 03:59:45,080
citizens of Red Gear oftentimes are asking questions about Westerner Park from a city perspective

1342
03:59:45,080 --> 03:59:51,020
and regards that financial. I think we're working very, very hard. I think the leadership that

1343
03:59:51,020 --> 03:59:56,420
and the board members that are providing is paving a way for that.

1344
03:59:56,980 --> 03:59:59,960
But I think you've also recognized this isn't incredibly-

1345
04:00:00,560 --> 04:00:10,860
Challenging the street to be part of. And at the same time, we cannot forget the asset that it is for our community and the great things that helps create. Thank you.

1346
04:00:11,140 --> 04:00:12,560
Thank you. Councillor Burema, Councillor Curtis.

1347
04:00:16,140 --> 04:00:25,480
I might begin. There we go. So when I think of culture in our city, I do think of Westerner Park. It's a big player when it comes to culture in our city.

1348
04:00:25,480 --> 04:00:33,660
I remember when I first moved to the city as a kid, I remember being okay with coming to Red Deer because we had our own hockey team, so

1349
04:00:33,660 --> 04:00:40,580
and when I think of Red Deer that that's a Westerner park as an asset. That's how it is a heavy file.

1350
04:00:42,300 --> 04:00:50,180
But I'm thankful for the work that has been done to ensure that the westerners in the black, the positive changes that have been made.

1351
04:00:50,180 --> 04:00:54,520
I can tell Shelley's passion in about the park and what it can offer to our city.

1352
04:00:55,700 --> 04:00:59,520
I also appreciate my colleagues work on this file, along with other board members who have

1353
04:00:59,520 --> 04:01:02,460
come to the table with a vision for this asset in our community.

1354
04:01:03,040 --> 04:01:06,460
There's so much potential when it comes to the park, and I look forward to the upwards

1355
04:01:06,460 --> 04:01:08,580
trajectory for this community asset.

1356
04:01:11,200 --> 04:01:12,340
Thank you, Councillor Curtis.

1357
04:01:13,260 --> 04:01:16,620
Council, I'm not seeing anyone else, I think everybody's had a chance, but I'll just

1358
04:01:16,620 --> 04:01:18,660
most of you have covered what I would say.

1359
04:01:18,660 --> 04:01:28,100
I do appreciate the work of our colleagues, Councilor Bruma and Councillor Bruswell and the board as well as our city manager and really appreciate how

1360
04:01:28,100 --> 04:01:34,560
Shelley Flint has brought a situation around and cut expenses and monitored very tightly.

1361
04:01:34,880 --> 04:01:42,480
There are operations to try and bring us back around in a positive way and with that all stop and call the question.

1362
04:01:50,930 --> 04:01:52,430
Council, please vote.

1363
04:02:06,340 --> 04:02:08,480
You're in favor, Councilor Bruma is in favor.

1364
04:02:23,040 --> 04:02:29,220
Thank you, Mayor. That passed. Well, I'm favour. Thank you. Appreciate that. Council.

1365
04:02:30,520 --> 04:02:38,320
Much to the secret of Mr. Wright, who's our next presenter. We're going to take a break and then move to the public hearing at five.

1366
04:02:38,940 --> 04:02:46,140
And then we'll come back for the housing homelessness integration committee, and I recognize you've been sitting waiting for quite some time.

1367
04:02:46,140 --> 04:02:54,100
Sometimes we can't avoid these bumps in the agenda so appreciate that and we'll come back or we can be in at 5 o'clock.

1368
04:18:03,920 --> 04:18:09,920
Okay, council, welcome back from recess. I appreciate a little bit of a break.

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04:18:12,020 --> 04:18:34,560
Council, we have one public hearing tonight. It's for Kentwood, northeast, Kingsgate, neighborhood area structure plan, 3217b, 2026. And I'd like to welcome the public who've joined us for our public hearing. In accordance with our procedure by law, you're allowed up to five minutes to speak. You will be timed. A timer will display on the screen.

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04:18:34,560 --> 04:18:39,580
to indicate your speaking time. The clerk will advise when your time is complete. At the

1371
04:18:39,580 --> 04:18:45,140
outset of your comments, please state and spell your name for the public record. Councils

1372
04:18:45,140 --> 04:18:49,320
here to listen and upon conclusion of your remarks, please remain at the podium or stay

1373
04:18:49,320 --> 04:18:56,580
on the line in case of members of council. This is not your opportunity to ask questions

1374
04:18:56,580 --> 04:19:01,400
of council. With regard to the proposed amendments, Councils required to focus on land use

1375
04:19:01,400 --> 04:19:07,240
planning principles and factors related to the use of land. I ask that council and speakers limit their

1376
04:19:07,240 --> 04:19:11,000
comments to those factors that are relevant to council's deliberations on the proposed

1377
04:19:11,000 --> 04:19:11,700
violas.

1378
04:19:13,840 --> 04:19:17,800
I now declare open a public hearing for Kentwood Northeast King's Gate Neighborhood

1379
04:19:17,800 --> 04:19:25,860
Area Structure Plan 3217B-2026, readjusting the boundary to the north to include part of

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0, 4, 0, 50, second avenue for increased increase of 1.35 hectares of land plus or minus, I guess that is 1.35 hectares when I read it and full it made more sense.

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04:19:43,020 --> 04:19:46,620
I will now ask administration for their presentation. Welcome, Ms. Fizzam.

1382
04:19:47,180 --> 04:19:48,860
Thank you for being here tonight.

1383
04:19:50,740 --> 04:19:51,340
Go ahead.

1384
04:19:53,720 --> 04:19:55,140
You guys can see the presentation?

1385
04:19:55,140 --> 04:19:57,100
I think we have control of you.

1386
04:19:57,840 --> 04:19:58,320
There you go.

1387
04:20:00,280 --> 04:20:01,680
Good evening, Mayor and members of Council.

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04:20:03,160 --> 04:20:09,640
Administration supports second and third reading of by law 327-3217B-2026.

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To readjust the boundary of the Kentwood Northeast Keyes Gate NAS to include an additional 1.35 hectares of land.

1390
04:20:20,460 --> 04:20:27,360
In 2021, the city began detailed design work for the Highway 11820 project, including construction of an overpass.

1391
04:20:27,360 --> 04:20:33,960
over the CPKC Railway line. As part of this work, additional right of way was required from

1392
04:20:33,960 --> 04:20:39,360
lands adjacent to the project, such as 80-40-50 second avenue, to accommodate the overpass

1393
04:20:39,360 --> 04:20:47,280
embankment. As such, the existing access from 80-40-52 avenue to highway 11A needs to be removed.

1394
04:20:47,860 --> 04:20:57,340
So in the image, it's the access, it's the line at the top, and it gives access to the

1395
04:20:57,340 --> 04:21:02,700
and physical access to the southern boundary to Kingston Drive because that thin strip of land

1396
04:21:02,700 --> 04:21:09,100
identified in red on the image belongs to a different party. In discussions regarding the

1397
04:21:09,100 --> 04:21:14,320
Highway 11A right of requirements, it was identified that the owner of that thin strip of land

1398
04:21:14,320 --> 04:21:20,980
had an interest in completing a land swap with the owner of 804052 Avenue. The proposed exchange

1399
04:21:20,980 --> 04:21:26,120
would provide the property with direct legal and physical access to Kingston Drive, while enabling

1400
04:21:26,120 --> 04:21:30,000
the owner of the strip to develop residential lots of fronting Kingston Drive.

1401
04:21:30,980 --> 04:21:37,400
Both landowners were agreeable to the proposed exchange, and this nascent amendment is the first step in allowing this process to occur.

1402
04:21:38,880 --> 04:21:43,260
The city has made the adoption of this nascent amendment a condition of subdivision endorsement,

1403
04:21:43,720 --> 04:21:49,280
which limits the city's exposure to access-related costs and the highway-11A access is ultimately removed.

1404
04:21:53,730 --> 04:21:58,710
The proposed nascent amendment is consistent with the zoning and built form of the residential lands located

1405
04:21:58,710 --> 04:22:03,050
immediately south of Kingston Drive. The amendment creates a cohesive and logical

1406
04:22:03,050 --> 04:22:07,330
neighborhood edge by extending the existing residential pattern northward in

1407
04:22:07,330 --> 04:22:11,970
a limited and site-specific manner. This amendment is limited in scale and are

1408
04:22:11,970 --> 04:22:16,570
not anticipated and is not anticipated to alter the overall character or

1409
04:22:16,570 --> 04:22:21,250
function of the Catwood neighborhood. Detail design considerations such as

1410
04:22:21,250 --> 04:22:26,110
lot layout, grading, drainage, landscaping, servicing and access arrangements

1411
04:22:26,110 --> 04:22:29,650
would be evaluated at the subdivision and development permit stage.

1412
04:22:32,320 --> 04:22:45,740
From a policy perspective, the proposal is consistent with the MDP, objectives, which support efficient use of land and infrastructure, logical growth patterns and provision of housing opportunities within existing neighborhoods.

1413
04:22:46,380 --> 04:22:53,040
The amendment would allow for future residential development while also facilitating the land swap between the two landowners.

1414
04:22:53,940 --> 04:23:01,180
While this amendment itself doesn't authorize residential development, it establishes the planning framework necessary for future rezoning.

1415
04:23:01,180 --> 04:23:10,260
The subject lands are currently designed, designated, future urban development zone A1, and this

1416
04:23:10,260 --> 04:23:15,820
designation anticipated that there would eventually be urban development as the area

1417
04:23:15,820 --> 04:23:16,360
matures.

1418
04:23:17,400 --> 04:23:23,180
If the areas eventually re-zoned to our end, the subject lands would support the development

1419
04:23:23,180 --> 04:23:26,160
of additional single-family homes within an established neighborhood.

1420
04:23:26,160 --> 04:23:31,840
The provision of new single-family housing opportunities is consistent with current demands in

1421
04:23:31,840 --> 04:23:33,320
red deer for single-family housing.

1422
04:23:34,900 --> 04:23:39,360
In field development of this nature makes efficient use of existing municipal infrastructure

1423
04:23:39,360 --> 04:23:44,500
and services, and it contributes to the city's broader housing objectives without requiring

1424
04:23:44,500 --> 04:23:47,460
extension of new infrastructure to greenfield areas.

1425
04:23:48,260 --> 04:23:53,800
If the amendment is not adopted, the related subdivision cannot be endorsed, and the conditional

1426
04:23:53,800 --> 04:23:59,320
Lenswap intended to provide legal and physical access to 804052 Avenue may not proceed.

1427
04:24:00,120 --> 04:24:04,760
In that event, the city would need to pursue another legally sufficient access solution

1428
04:24:05,280 --> 04:24:09,540
before removing existing highway, the existing highway 11A access.

1429
04:24:10,100 --> 04:24:15,000
And that could result in project delay, additional land acquisition or easement costs, compensation

1430
04:24:15,000 --> 04:24:18,040
exposure or other access related costs.

1431
04:24:20,150 --> 04:24:26,230
The proposed amendment was circulated to 86 landowners within 100 meters of the subject property.

1432
04:24:26,870 --> 04:24:31,570
The concerns that were raised regarding parking, traffic, infrastructure capacity and drainage

1433
04:24:31,570 --> 04:24:34,950
are not anticipated to result in significant impacts.

1434
04:24:35,730 --> 04:24:39,610
Because the infrastructure that was put in place for Kentwood, for the Kentwood area,

1435
04:24:39,710 --> 04:24:43,770
was originally designed to accommodate future growth to the north.

1436
04:24:44,390 --> 04:24:49,230
The remainder of 80, 40, 50 second avenue is not included in this amendment.

1437
04:24:49,390 --> 04:24:54,890
We did receive some concerns about the removal of tree trees and the protection of

1438
04:24:54,890 --> 04:25:00,510
some wetlands, but as such, these would come at a later time when that portion of the land

1439
04:25:00,510 --> 04:25:04,370
a NASP is developed for that portion of land or there's a future NASP amendment.

1440
04:25:07,220 --> 04:25:12,620
So as such, administration supports NASP amendment 32, 17B to readjust the boundary of the

1441
04:25:12,620 --> 04:25:20,020
that would name Kingsgate NASP to include an additional 1.35 hectares of land.

1442
04:25:20,360 --> 04:25:20,620
Thank you.

1443
04:25:23,280 --> 04:25:24,180
Thank you very much.

1444
04:25:24,480 --> 04:25:28,140
Are there any other questions, Councillor Cronk, please?

1445
04:25:28,760 --> 04:25:29,560
I appreciate the presentation.

1446
04:25:30,060 --> 04:25:33,240
It wasn't clear when I worked through the package that this was about a landswap.

1447
04:25:33,700 --> 04:25:37,680
So my questions were about the access and how there's a house there on Google Maps.

1448
04:25:37,720 --> 04:25:38,840
How he was going to make it to.

1449
04:25:39,600 --> 04:25:44,360
So I'm correct in assuming that that house will be accessed from the south rather than from the north.

1450
04:25:44,360 --> 04:25:59,220
through the major members of Council that is correct, so there's only one access to the property at this time, which is directly from the property to Highway 11A, that would be eliminated, with the landswap, the access would come at a different point off of Kingston drive.

1451
04:26:00,260 --> 04:26:06,920
But the access details would come later on at the subdivision and development stage. So exactly where it's going to be is going to come at a later date.

1452
04:26:09,380 --> 04:26:10,260
Thank you.

1453
04:26:10,260 --> 04:26:11,600
Councillor Curtis, please.

1454
04:26:14,800 --> 04:26:17,240
Thank you, Mayor Jeffries, and thank you for the presentation.

1455
04:26:18,140 --> 04:26:24,420
So I'm just curious, I'm not seeing any green space on this nest at all. Am I in correct

1456
04:26:24,420 --> 04:26:26,000
in saying that?

1457
04:26:28,630 --> 04:26:29,510
Just one second.

1458
04:26:33,790 --> 04:26:35,230
We're going to get the map back.

1459
04:26:38,430 --> 04:26:44,910
Through the many or two members of Council, and so the Kentwood neighborhood nest is already in

1460
04:26:44,910 --> 04:26:49,350
place, and so we're not all we're adding if we were to have this amendment go through,

1461
04:26:49,350 --> 04:26:52,170
is the strip of residential land to the north.

1462
04:26:53,390 --> 04:26:53,570
So, yes.

1463
04:26:53,570 --> 04:26:56,550
So, as I identified till the green area of the area,

1464
04:26:56,550 --> 04:26:59,690
the area circled in green is what we would be adding.

1465
04:26:59,810 --> 04:27:02,170
So, no, we're not adding any green space with this amendment.

1466
04:27:03,210 --> 04:27:06,350
And all of the rest of campus is already an adopted NASP.

1467
04:27:07,190 --> 04:27:09,610
So, is there a green space in this NASP though?

1468
04:27:10,350 --> 04:27:11,370
There is okay.

1469
04:27:12,190 --> 04:27:15,530
And, yeah, I was just wondering the force that the residents are commenting on

1470
04:27:15,530 --> 04:27:16,930
is that part of that?

1471
04:27:16,930 --> 04:27:20,330
Through the Mayor's members of Council, no, that's not part of that.

1472
04:27:20,510 --> 04:27:26,090
So the green space that they're referencing is the remainder of 80, 40, 52 Avenue,

1473
04:27:26,290 --> 04:27:29,650
which is to the north of that area identified in the green there.

1474
04:27:29,890 --> 04:27:31,710
And that's not being dealt with today.

1475
04:27:32,070 --> 04:27:35,750
That would, a NAS would come at a later date to deal with that parcel of wind.

1476
04:27:36,130 --> 04:27:40,530
Yeah, I understand that that's not being, that's not part of the decision making today.

1477
04:27:40,550 --> 04:27:46,790
I just want to ask the question based on some of the comments received from people within the area that were notified.

1478
04:27:46,790 --> 04:27:50,390
So, and I just looking at the map, I didn't see any green space.

1479
04:27:50,550 --> 04:27:53,590
So, I was wondering if that was something that is in the plans.

1480
04:27:54,670 --> 04:27:55,190
City Manager?

1481
04:27:56,490 --> 04:28:03,930
I'll just refer you to page 121, and you'll see there is plans to statistics, and it notes

1482
04:28:03,930 --> 04:28:15,730
that there is 7.45 hectares of open space, and that's about 15 percent of the human

1483
04:28:15,730 --> 04:28:25,080
have to let me know what NDA is on that table. What counsel is used to seeing is our newer

1484
04:28:25,080 --> 04:28:31,280
area structure plans. This is one of our older area structure plans. And so the ability for

1485
04:28:31,280 --> 04:28:37,020
graphic design and some of those things are sure evolved, where it was much easier to pop out

1486
04:28:37,020 --> 04:28:42,220
in our newer ones, where the green spaces, than in our older ones. And NDA is net developer

1487
04:28:44,140 --> 04:28:45,580
Okay, I appreciate that.

1488
04:28:45,740 --> 04:28:48,680
The way I've seen, again, city manager,

1489
04:28:48,860 --> 04:28:49,600
correct me if I'm wrong.

1490
04:28:50,100 --> 04:28:52,440
But the little literal green on the map is typically

1491
04:28:52,440 --> 04:28:53,280
the green space.

1492
04:28:53,640 --> 04:28:56,880
And I understand that that is part of the decision today.

1493
04:28:57,080 --> 04:28:58,380
So, again, that's why I'm asking.

1494
04:29:02,830 --> 04:29:03,190
But thank you.

1495
04:29:03,190 --> 04:29:03,970
That's all my questions.

1496
04:29:04,650 --> 04:29:05,810
Thank you.

1497
04:29:06,550 --> 04:29:07,710
Councillor White, just please.

1498
04:29:08,290 --> 04:29:09,270
Thank you for the presentations.

1499
04:29:09,810 --> 04:29:10,110
These themes.

1500
04:29:10,910 --> 04:29:12,550
Were there any other access options,

1501
04:29:12,550 --> 04:29:18,990
considered or reviewed prior to this application that's before us, this amendment.

1502
04:29:19,410 --> 04:29:23,870
Through the management members of council, so no, that is the only access consideration

1503
04:29:23,870 --> 04:29:29,370
we're looking at right now. If this amendment were to not go through, the city would be

1504
04:29:29,370 --> 04:29:36,430
looking at potentially purchasing the red strip of land on the south side and then enabling

1505
04:29:36,430 --> 04:29:40,430
an access at that time. But for right now, this is the only solution we've looked at.

1506
04:29:40,430 --> 04:29:45,450
and then speak to me why that wasn't considered or presented to Council.

1507
04:29:46,870 --> 04:29:47,670
As an option.

1508
04:29:53,340 --> 04:29:55,240
Through the Mayor to members of Council, if you'll just give me a moment.

1509
04:29:55,400 --> 04:29:56,840
Of course, for engineering too.

1510
04:30:07,380 --> 04:30:13,820
Hi there. I'm Simone Thompson. I'm Russ Schwartz's stunt bubble for today.

1511
04:30:14,760 --> 04:30:16,020
So, thank you.

1512
04:30:16,160 --> 04:30:16,380
Hello, Simone.

1513
04:30:17,560 --> 04:30:19,400
So, can you repeat the question?

1514
04:30:19,800 --> 04:30:22,820
Well, I'm just curious if there are other options considered.

1515
04:30:23,320 --> 04:30:26,620
Besides this access that was presented to council.

1516
04:30:27,420 --> 04:30:31,820
The citizens talk about, and I'll go to my next question, some issues of concern.

1517
04:30:32,180 --> 04:30:34,880
So, whether any other options considered rather than this one.

1518
04:30:34,880 --> 04:30:39,860
I don't think there were a lot of options available to us.

1519
04:30:40,600 --> 04:30:46,040
We tried to, because Highway 11A was twin, we tried to limit access onto those major

1520
04:30:46,040 --> 04:30:48,000
roadways for safety reasons, of course.

1521
04:30:48,780 --> 04:30:54,400
So the most logical place to have it, to have that second error, the access move to would

1522
04:30:54,400 --> 04:30:57,360
be King, you know, the King's Gator.

1523
04:30:58,320 --> 04:30:59,280
King's and Dries there.

1524
04:31:00,260 --> 04:31:04,860
But there was other possibilities that could have been considered or this was the most

1525
04:31:04,860 --> 04:31:10,080
be feasible. This is the most feasible. Thank you. I don't know if you'll answer this question or

1526
04:31:10,080 --> 04:31:17,160
misspeasings. Some of the citizens letters talk about safety issues for citizens, the wildlife,

1527
04:31:18,420 --> 04:31:25,340
receive traffic impacts, and runoff impacts. What type of mitigation initiatives will occur to

1528
04:31:26,460 --> 04:31:31,520
manage those concerns that will might happen if this is passed this evening?

1529
04:31:32,120 --> 04:31:50,500
Through the Mayor to Members of Council, so the existing infrastructure in place was designed with the anticipation that the Lancet and to the north, which are currently zoned a one future urban development, would be developed and so it does have the capacity to deal with additional housing at some point.

1530
04:31:50,500 --> 04:31:56,940
That being said, those very specific details of the mitigation, what the drainage will look like, etc.

1531
04:31:57,120 --> 04:32:02,200
Those will be, those will come at a later stage. So at the subdivision and development permit stage.

1532
04:32:03,580 --> 04:32:08,140
Thank you for that. I'm curious about the runoff impacts because we're seeing more and more

1533
04:32:08,140 --> 04:32:13,340
serious storms. And if you've been watching the end to news and the impacts of how we do our

1534
04:32:13,340 --> 04:32:19,260
planning. So I just ask perhaps that that be considered if this is past this evening. Thank you.

1535
04:32:21,240 --> 04:32:21,740
of service.

1536
04:32:25,280 --> 04:32:26,040
Thank you, Mayor.

1537
04:32:26,560 --> 04:32:33,080
I guess what's so confusing about this is that in the package, it was talking about, you know,

1538
04:32:33,120 --> 04:32:37,640
twinning 11A and then also development and residential areas but we're not talking about any

1539
04:32:37,640 --> 04:32:38,380
of that right now.

1540
04:32:38,460 --> 04:32:42,820
We're just talking about that last swap for the potential for those two things to happen

1541
04:32:42,820 --> 04:32:43,340
in the future.

1542
04:32:43,640 --> 04:32:44,040
Is that correct?

1543
04:32:44,340 --> 04:32:45,680
Through the mayor to members of Council.

1544
04:32:45,940 --> 04:32:50,620
So yes, I try to provide that context to get the full picture of why we're doing this.

1545
04:32:50,620 --> 04:32:57,600
But essentially right now, we're just adding land to the existing NAS to be able to give access to that landowner.

1546
04:32:58,100 --> 04:33:00,640
But the reasoning is coming at a later stage.

1547
04:33:01,040 --> 04:33:03,420
And so we're not adding housing at this time.

1548
04:33:03,420 --> 04:33:08,500
We're just identifying where the housing will go once this part of the land is added to the Kentwood NAS.

1549
04:33:09,240 --> 04:33:13,320
And then the twinning of the 11A whenever that might come.

1550
04:33:13,600 --> 04:33:19,920
Is that going to be to equal on each side or with that go more into Kentwood or has that been decided at all yet?

1551
04:33:20,960 --> 04:33:25,560
Through the Mayor to Members of Council, they would appear that that's not decided at this time.

1552
04:33:25,740 --> 04:33:26,540
We don't have those details.

1553
04:33:27,220 --> 04:33:28,000
Thank you.

1554
04:33:31,940 --> 04:33:33,460
I'll call for questions, Council.

1555
04:33:34,540 --> 04:33:35,440
Not seeing any.

1556
04:33:35,680 --> 04:33:37,080
Thank you very much for your presentation.

1557
04:33:37,740 --> 04:33:38,660
Appreciate you being here.

1558
04:33:41,360 --> 04:33:43,980
I don't have a list of speakers tonight, but I'll do a call.

1559
04:33:44,160 --> 04:33:48,220
Is there anyone present wishing to comment on the proposed Kent Wood King's Gate

1560
04:33:48,220 --> 04:33:51,900
Neighborhood Area Structure Plan 3217B2026?

1561
04:33:56,200 --> 04:33:58,040
Seeing none, I'll do a second call.

1562
04:33:58,040 --> 04:34:01,760
Is there anyone wishing to speak to the neighborhood area structure plan amendment

1563
04:34:03,940 --> 04:34:07,740
we have anyone online city clerk who's wanting to participate?

1564
04:34:07,940 --> 04:34:14,720
Thank you man. There's no one online and one final call. Is there anyone present?

1565
04:34:15,760 --> 04:34:22,560
Washing to comment on the proposed Kentwood Kingsgate neighborhood area structure plan 3217b 2026

1566
04:34:25,340 --> 04:34:26,680
seeing none.

1567
04:34:27,560 --> 04:34:31,920
I will now declare the public hearing for Kentwood, King's Gate,

1568
04:34:32,240 --> 04:34:35,300
nor neighborhood area, structure plan 3217B-26,

1569
04:34:36,100 --> 04:34:41,420
re-adjusting the boundary to the north to include part of 80, 40, 50 second avenue

1570
04:34:43,160 --> 04:34:48,380
of the land closed. Council, we will now proceed to the proposed resolution.

1571
04:34:49,080 --> 04:34:50,280
Can you please say close?

1572
04:34:52,460 --> 04:34:54,900
I have now declared closed.

1573
04:34:54,900 --> 04:34:55,620
I'm looking.

1574
04:34:56,260 --> 04:34:56,420
Sorry.

1575
04:34:56,640 --> 04:34:57,460
I thought I had said close.

1576
04:34:57,660 --> 04:34:58,460
Might have mumbled.

1577
04:34:59,340 --> 04:35:03,020
Council will now propose to the proceed to the proposed resolution.

1578
04:35:06,500 --> 04:35:07,080
Good question.

1579
04:35:07,360 --> 04:35:08,080
Student administration.

1580
04:35:08,660 --> 04:35:08,880
Oh, yeah.

1581
04:35:09,080 --> 04:35:09,600
Do you have questions?

1582
04:35:09,720 --> 04:35:09,880
Sorry.

1583
04:35:10,020 --> 04:35:10,280
Go ahead.

1584
04:35:10,420 --> 04:35:11,320
I should have asked.

1585
04:35:13,800 --> 04:35:14,220
Administration.

1586
04:35:14,540 --> 04:35:18,960
I'm wondering if you can comment on the citizens letter on page 126.

1587
04:35:19,920 --> 04:35:22,540
Specifically, they talk about a number of issues in their letter.

1588
04:35:23,160 --> 04:35:24,400
But they speak on their conclusion.

1589
04:35:24,400 --> 04:35:27,080
that given us a bunches, we're having a little bit of trouble hearing you.

1590
04:35:29,130 --> 04:35:29,810
Thank you.

1591
04:35:31,950 --> 04:35:38,150
I'm wondering if administration can just comment on age 126, specifically the citizens,

1592
04:35:38,990 --> 04:35:46,410
including paragraph that speaks to traffic, parking, wetland balancing, highway, the adjacent

1593
04:35:46,410 --> 04:35:51,250
highway expansion transition to a high density is entirely premature of this site.

1594
04:35:51,810 --> 04:35:53,950
Can someone speak to that comment?

1595
04:35:54,750 --> 04:35:55,970
I should have allowed.

1596
04:35:55,970 --> 04:36:04,190
Is it premature and and and it goes to my previous question of other options being considered with recognition of some of the concerns raised.

1597
04:36:04,230 --> 04:36:04,810
Thank you council.

1598
04:36:07,060 --> 04:36:07,640
Sorry.

1599
04:36:09,440 --> 04:36:11,020
Through the mayor to members of council.

1600
04:36:12,440 --> 04:36:17,440
So as I've mentioned prior it was always anticipated that this would be developed.

1601
04:36:17,800 --> 04:36:23,140
What I can comment on is that the RN district is not a high density district.

1602
04:36:24,660 --> 04:36:30,740
it's a single family detached zone, which matches the existing

1603
04:36:31,860 --> 04:36:36,580
residences that are on that are just south of Kingston Drive. So it would be

1604
04:36:37,060 --> 04:36:43,120
potentially when we did the math, it would be potentially 48 more lots, more

1605
04:36:43,120 --> 04:36:48,400
more houses and that's the absolute maximum. And so the existing infrastructure

1606
04:36:48,400 --> 04:36:51,960
is able to sustain that and it is not high density.

1607
04:36:53,060 --> 04:36:57,420
Thank you, Ms. B's Aimsing. Can you just speak to their concerns as well about, and was

1608
04:36:57,420 --> 04:37:01,760
either concerns as well about the environmental impacts to the wildlife?

1609
04:37:05,260 --> 04:37:10,140
Through the mayor to members of Council, the property that has the wildlife.

1610
04:37:10,260 --> 04:37:20,760
So it is the property. It's 80-40-52 street, but a lot of the heavily-treated areas that they're

1611
04:37:20,760 --> 04:37:22,520
the boundary that we're dealing with today.

1612
04:37:23,040 --> 04:37:23,860
Thank you for that explanation.

1613
04:37:24,320 --> 04:37:24,740
Thank you, Mayor.

1614
04:37:25,100 --> 04:37:25,900
Thank you.

1615
04:37:27,100 --> 04:37:28,620
Could we have the resolution up please?

1616
04:37:40,990 --> 04:37:51,980
So, this has was moved at first reading by Councillor Tweedell and Councillor Fiswas, seconded. Councillor, is there further discussion for this comment?

1617
04:37:54,040 --> 04:37:54,600
Councillor Curtis.

1618
04:38:00,220 --> 04:38:16,860
So, I used to somebody else turning on my mic for me. So, I appreciate my colleagues, comment and questions about runoff, just looking at Minton and the amount of swarm water that they're dealing with there and their infrastructure can't keep up and I think that's something we need to consider.

1619
04:38:19,640 --> 04:38:25,040
As a result of the north end, I think it's important that parks and green space is also prioritized on the north end.

1620
04:38:25,180 --> 04:38:27,920
So I'm hoping that something that is considered in future plans.

1621
04:38:28,700 --> 04:38:34,480
It, I appreciate knowing that those treat areas in that land is not part of this nest.

1622
04:38:34,920 --> 04:38:36,520
But I just want to bring that forward.

1623
04:38:38,320 --> 04:38:40,680
The land is already owned in the amendment.

1624
04:38:40,680 --> 04:38:45,620
is to support the two parcels, Latin owners, future plans and wishes with the property and support

1625
04:38:45,620 --> 04:38:52,060
future 20 on 5.11, which is critical to our city and as such I will be supporting the motion today.

1626
04:38:53,720 --> 04:38:56,120
Thank you. Any other comments, Council?

1627
04:38:58,570 --> 04:39:01,650
Seeing none, I would call the question.

1628
04:39:02,670 --> 04:39:03,410
Second reading.

1629
04:39:09,060 --> 04:39:10,980
There we go, Council. Please vote.

1630
04:39:22,090 --> 04:39:23,870
That's unanimous. Council, thank you very much.

1631
04:39:23,870 --> 04:39:25,710
and we'll go to a third reading, please.

1632
04:39:29,420 --> 04:39:30,780
Any final comments, Council?

1633
04:39:32,950 --> 04:39:34,410
Seeing none, I'll call the question.

1634
04:39:35,090 --> 04:39:36,030
Please vote when you can.

1635
04:39:48,500 --> 04:39:49,520
Thank you very much, Council.

1636
04:39:49,780 --> 04:39:51,880
That's also unanimous.

1637
04:39:52,100 --> 04:39:55,380
We should, I think, staff being here tonight.

1638
04:39:55,500 --> 04:39:57,220
Thanks for your presentation and your support.

1639
04:39:58,520 --> 04:40:02,080
And now, Council will move back to Item 6.2,

1640
04:40:02,380 --> 04:40:06,440
which is the Housing and Homeless Integration Committee piece.

1641
04:40:08,520 --> 04:40:12,980
And we've got a few changes in presentation presenters.

1642
04:40:14,480 --> 04:40:19,920
Councillor Buroma, I understand you're going to do some speaking on behalf Chair Gordon Wright.

1643
04:40:20,740 --> 04:40:24,380
And we've got Bobby Joe standard here for Macca.

1644
04:40:25,700 --> 04:40:26,520
Thank you very much.

1645
04:40:26,960 --> 04:40:33,660
The Housing and Homeless Integration Committee is bringing a motion to council to support some advocacy

1646
04:40:33,660 --> 04:40:36,860
in regards to youth transitional housing.

1647
04:40:37,940 --> 04:40:46,940
As we were taking a look at some of the funding that was going to housing needs within our community,

1648
04:40:47,660 --> 04:40:58,280
we were advised that 12 units are units that serve 12 young people in transitional housing lost its funding from the province.

1649
04:40:58,280 --> 04:41:10,640
And as a result of that, in essence, the operators of that, like man, youth homes needed to, basically, set these young people free.

1650
04:41:12,280 --> 04:41:20,600
And I know as we were going through this issue, I had opportunities to talk to minister Nixon, who was the minister responsible at that time,

1651
04:41:20,600 --> 04:41:26,120
And, you know, advocated for that, saying, what is it that we're able to do around that?

1652
04:41:26,320 --> 04:41:34,120
Since then, Minister Nudor has taken over that particular file and there has been not to my understanding,

1653
04:41:34,400 --> 04:41:37,700
there hasn't been advocacy on its since that change has happened.

1654
04:41:38,200 --> 04:41:45,580
So what we're asking is that if Council would be able to formally take a look at some of the advocacy work around this.

1655
04:41:46,060 --> 04:41:48,960
And no one we heard that information at our meeting.

1656
04:41:48,960 --> 04:41:50,980
It was really heartbreaking.

1657
04:41:51,480 --> 04:41:55,200
Here you have young people who are in transitional housing.

1658
04:41:55,280 --> 04:41:59,660
Now we do have a youth shelter, but that's emergency housing for young people.

1659
04:42:00,220 --> 04:42:07,100
Transitional housing is providing them the resources, the support for them to make it to the next step,

1660
04:42:07,480 --> 04:42:11,420
for them to take care of what some of the challenges are that they're facing.

1661
04:42:11,620 --> 04:42:18,940
They have support from professional help within that, and it was heartbreaking when we found out about that.

1662
04:42:18,940 --> 04:42:31,080
And since that time there's been the best of mine all it's there's been no resolution to that and we do need to advocate for that that is one of those housing need

1663
04:42:31,080 --> 04:42:37,600
is that we have and again the most vulnerable house on house individuals that we have within our community.

1664
04:42:38,280 --> 04:42:45,360
So we're asking for counsel to up the advocacy on that and this needs to be a permanent decision.

1665
04:42:45,360 --> 04:42:55,460
It can't go by the flow of funding cycles, it needs to be a clear need that's in our community that needs to be fulfilled with that.

1666
04:42:56,420 --> 04:43:05,020
So, again, some initial advocacy has been done, but we would like the supportive council and the voice of council to support this advocacy.

1667
04:43:06,180 --> 04:43:09,660
And I don't know if there's other comments that you would have missed out on it.

1668
04:43:15,770 --> 04:43:23,050
Thank you so much. Through you may or two members of Council, it's important to prioritize

1669
04:43:23,850 --> 04:43:31,670
the youth file in Redder because this is the only program that does support youth in transitional housing.

1670
04:43:32,210 --> 04:43:38,150
The decision was made by the housing and homelessness integration committee to

1671
04:43:39,110 --> 04:43:45,490
put towards a carry forward that was left over from the provincial government funding as well as some

1672
04:43:45,490 --> 04:43:51,110
federal government funding to be able to support this particular program until March of

1673
04:43:51,110 --> 04:43:58,370
2027, but that it was only a stock debt measure, and that was done in consultation with

1674
04:43:58,370 --> 04:44:01,990
our use serving agencies in Red Deers.

1675
04:44:02,550 --> 04:44:10,370
So we are at a point that after March 2027, we do not have any housing for youth that is

1676
04:44:10,370 --> 04:44:11,830
an emergency situation.

1677
04:44:13,010 --> 04:44:15,690
Thank you very much, Councillor Vrima, back to you.

1678
04:44:15,910 --> 04:44:20,970
If I can add to that as we start our advocacy around that, my understanding is they

1679
04:44:20,970 --> 04:44:28,950
lost, they terminated the rent of the facility, furnishings, and all of the materials needed

1680
04:44:28,950 --> 04:44:31,910
to house those individuals were also dispersed.

1681
04:44:33,150 --> 04:44:35,650
And at this point, do we have any of that housing?

1682
04:44:36,250 --> 04:44:38,410
I haven't heard of any updates from that.

1683
04:44:38,410 --> 04:44:44,850
At this point, the program does have funding, not to the level that it did previously.

1684
04:44:45,550 --> 04:44:48,830
So there's a lot of outreach that's happening through those workers.

1685
04:44:49,330 --> 04:44:53,470
But I'm not sure if we have physical spaces right now.

1686
04:44:54,070 --> 04:44:57,470
And that's the last I heard I would hope that there was some progress made on that.

1687
04:44:59,050 --> 04:44:59,810
Thank you.

1688
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:05,000
This will be before I go further with questions or comments that you may have been asked for a mover and a seconder.

1689
04:45:06,160 --> 04:45:07,880
Or not, Julie, to do it.

1690
04:45:08,020 --> 04:45:11,540
Councillor Burroma, Councillor Burroma, I'm going to go to Councilor Tweedle.

1691
04:45:16,230 --> 04:45:18,130
Councilor Burroma, I'm Councillor Tweedle,

1692
04:45:26,480 --> 04:45:29,240
please. I don't know if we can change it. I have to live with it.

1693
04:45:30,800 --> 04:45:32,340
And you change it too.

1694
04:45:34,900 --> 04:45:36,240
That's not really matter too much I suppose.

1695
04:45:41,820 --> 04:45:45,260
Thank you very much. Now we'll go to questions while we.

1696
04:45:45,260 --> 04:45:49,020
I'll leave it at that. Councillor Whiteress, please.

1697
04:45:50,280 --> 04:45:57,280
Thank you for the comments, Councillor and city administration, and certainly support this advocacy work.

1698
04:45:57,900 --> 04:46:03,620
I'm just curious about community conversations, collaboration.

1699
04:46:04,020 --> 04:46:08,920
We now have the Red Your Homeless Foundation and recognize that many, many challenges there as well.

1700
04:46:09,280 --> 04:46:14,180
But what kind of community?

1701
04:46:14,180 --> 04:46:18,620
that might support our advocacy in this endeavor for transitional housing.

1702
04:46:21,530 --> 04:46:24,530
Thank you for the question through you, Mayor, to Councillor Wainches.

1703
04:46:25,030 --> 04:46:31,590
We have been in conversation with the Redger Housing Homeless Foundation around this particular need,

1704
04:46:32,010 --> 04:46:40,210
but we do have a particular program that is ready to go in the community other than the current service provider.

1705
04:46:41,310 --> 04:46:44,630
Thank you, and then my second question is in terms of other mid-sized cities.

1706
04:46:44,630 --> 04:46:50,570
it's often, you know, the larger city's Edmonton and Calgary, but we have youth from not only

1707
04:46:50,570 --> 04:46:55,470
red deer, but the surrounding region as well, who come to our city. What kind of supports

1708
04:46:55,470 --> 04:47:01,270
are being offered that we're aware of that, perhaps we didn't receive other mid-sized cities

1709
04:47:01,270 --> 04:47:03,370
have for initiatives such as this.

1710
04:47:04,770 --> 04:47:10,470
Thank you for the question. Three o'clock, Mayor, to Councillor Wynches. The change with the

1711
04:47:10,470 --> 04:47:17,350
provincial government being the community entity for this particular funding means that we

1712
04:47:17,350 --> 04:47:23,370
don't have the same access to who is receiving what contracts through the provincial government.

1713
04:47:24,050 --> 04:47:28,930
So I wouldn't be able to comment on what is available in other communities right now.

1714
04:47:30,050 --> 04:47:35,930
So basically we don't have, we're not privy to that information or we're not even aware

1715
04:47:35,930 --> 04:47:39,730
of the gaps that are located in other mid-sized cities and communities.

1716
04:47:41,050 --> 04:47:41,630
That is correct.

1717
04:47:41,690 --> 04:47:47,510
The information that we would have would be by other municipalities, not necessarily straight

1718
04:47:47,510 --> 04:47:48,490
from the GOA.

1719
04:47:48,730 --> 04:47:49,350
Thank you.

1720
04:47:49,350 --> 04:47:54,190
And with the change of process funding that the provincial government is now making those decisions,

1721
04:47:54,710 --> 04:48:00,950
are they aware of our concerns in terms of our lack of information, our gaps, our ability

1722
04:48:00,950 --> 04:48:05,190
to know what's happening in our community, to make appropriate decisions?

1723
04:48:05,190 --> 04:48:11,970
Do they have an open mechanism that's available not only to our city, but other cities to be able to provide that information?

1724
04:48:13,370 --> 04:48:14,270
Thank you for the question.

1725
04:48:14,890 --> 04:48:16,650
Through you, Mayor, to Councillor White.

1726
04:48:16,650 --> 04:48:21,110
There are a couple of different avenues of advocacy as well as information.

1727
04:48:22,070 --> 04:48:27,950
So one in particular is Councillor Curtis and I attend the inner city forum on social policy.

1728
04:48:28,570 --> 04:48:33,850
And so it is a topic of conversation around that particular table with other municipalities.

1729
04:48:33,850 --> 04:48:40,930
and there is government representation. There is also an opportunity right now. Our

1730
04:48:40,930 --> 04:48:46,030
municipality is having weekly meetings with the government of Alberta around housing

1731
04:48:46,030 --> 04:48:50,450
and it's been made very clear that that is a gap in right to or right now.

1732
04:48:51,050 --> 04:48:55,510
Thank you, and is that formalized in some way those discussions are those formalized to the minister

1733
04:48:56,090 --> 04:48:59,270
so that they have them directly to in their office?

1734
04:48:59,270 --> 04:49:05,510
Thank you for the question. I'm not sure what the communication happens from administration

1735
04:49:06,030 --> 04:49:12,270
to their political realm, but I do know that it is certainly a priority for those that

1736
04:49:12,270 --> 04:49:13,110
are on that call.

1737
04:49:13,610 --> 04:49:16,650
Thank you very much. Thank you for this work, and Bri is forward.

1738
04:49:17,890 --> 04:49:20,870
I do so. Councillor Burma, did you want to just-

1739
04:49:20,870 --> 04:49:25,190
Just to supplement for that, and I appreciate the work of administration doing that, but that's

1740
04:49:25,190 --> 04:49:31,410
part of the reason for the rationale of the motion coming, because on this is going to need

1741
04:49:31,410 --> 04:49:36,810
to be also supported on the political level, I appreciate the work of the administration

1742
04:49:36,810 --> 04:49:42,270
in terms of being that conduit across our community and understanding what the needs are,

1743
04:49:42,730 --> 04:49:47,230
but it doesn't need political advocacy, and that's the need that we have today.

1744
04:49:48,190 --> 04:49:51,190
Thank you, I'm going to go to Councilor Tweedle, please.

1745
04:49:52,670 --> 04:49:54,130
My name is Morso Comments.

1746
04:49:54,730 --> 04:49:55,250
I just realized.

1747
04:49:55,250 --> 04:49:56,270
Do you have a few questions?

1748
04:49:56,510 --> 04:49:57,410
Councilor Curtis.

1749
04:49:59,470 --> 04:49:59,910
Questions?

1750
04:50:00,190 --> 04:50:00,530
Questions?

1751
04:50:00,530 --> 04:50:00,630
Questions?

1752
04:50:01,050 --> 04:50:01,490
Go ahead.

1753
04:50:03,150 --> 04:50:03,910
Thank you, Mayor Jeffery.

1754
04:50:04,050 --> 04:50:08,350
So I appreciate the work being done on this file of the HHIC and this resolution being

1755
04:50:08,350 --> 04:50:09,090
brought forward.

1756
04:50:09,610 --> 04:50:12,850
I also appreciate Councilor Burema's comment regarding the use shelter.

1757
04:50:13,730 --> 04:50:16,170
It's a shelter only up to 18 years of age.

1758
04:50:16,170 --> 04:50:28,230
So I'm just wondering what this asks me from the Ministry of Social Services or what a fall under Ministry of Children and Services considering it's from my understanding surrounding youth and transition out of care.

1759
04:50:30,430 --> 04:50:31,230
Thank you for the question.

1760
04:50:31,510 --> 04:50:33,650
Through you may or to council.

1761
04:50:34,990 --> 04:50:36,830
That is the moving target right now.

1762
04:50:37,030 --> 04:50:39,130
We do know that ministries have changed.

1763
04:50:39,470 --> 04:50:44,830
Our context right now is through Ministry of Mental Health and Addictions.

1764
04:50:44,830 --> 04:50:51,490
and that is where the housing profile on those particular contracts is currently.

1765
04:50:52,450 --> 04:50:55,310
Okay, yeah, I'm just wondering if there's something I'm bringing to attention to in

1766
04:50:55,310 --> 04:51:00,170
services considering it is you transitioning out of care and they reduce the age that

1767
04:51:00,170 --> 04:51:06,070
they will support you think care. So let's just a thought that I have. I'm just wondering

1768
04:51:06,070 --> 04:51:12,570
too, so 254,000 has been allocated to Arcadia from HHIC, so how long will this funding sustain

1769
04:51:12,570 --> 04:51:20,960
the program for. Thank you for the question through your mayor to council. The funding is until March 31,

1770
04:51:21,400 --> 04:51:21,960
2027.

1771
04:51:26,010 --> 04:51:30,190
Okay, thank you. And then I'm just wondering for this resolution if it should just state

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04:51:30,190 --> 04:51:36,570
transitional housing. The reason I'm mentioning this is I understand Arcades of Sustainable

1773
04:51:36,570 --> 04:51:41,270
or Arcades of Sustainability is a need, but my guess would be that transitional housing dollars

1774
04:51:41,270 --> 04:52:00,530
for specific populations would come from separate ministries and our advocacy team can help navigate this so like yesterday was brought to our attention recovery housing and to Arcadia and Amethis so it's just a suggestion with the resolution but I just want to throw that out to my colleagues.

1775
04:52:01,050 --> 04:52:04,970
Sorry Councillor can you just clarify what your suggestion was.

1776
04:52:04,970 --> 04:52:18,870
If on the resolution is to just state transitional housing, not your transitional housing, just recognizing that we have needs for different populations, and it could come from different ministries.

1777
04:52:19,690 --> 04:52:24,970
May take the emphasis off youth at this point, but we can consider that.

1778
04:52:27,840 --> 04:52:29,100
Councillor Goodwin, please.

1779
04:52:29,580 --> 04:52:29,960
Thank you.

1780
04:52:33,020 --> 04:52:43,520
It's strange to me that in the modern society we have to be talking about things like this, the social impact is obviously huge.

1781
04:52:43,520 --> 04:52:53,520
So do we when we talk about advocating for advocacy or supporting advocacy and it's sort

1782
04:52:53,520 --> 04:53:00,340
of been alluded to but like to whom and what is the direct message that we're back.

1783
04:53:02,880 --> 04:53:07,640
I would say with asking this resolution and advocacy strategy would be developed through

1784
04:53:07,640 --> 04:53:14,620
the Office of Mayor and Council identifying and verifying which mysteries they belong to and what

1785
04:53:14,620 --> 04:53:19,440
the needs are out there working with the service providers and then moving forward to government.

1786
04:53:19,720 --> 04:53:25,660
And as I said, you know, we talked with Minister Nixon before that, sheets have shuffled

1787
04:53:25,660 --> 04:53:31,680
on the deck. So I'm my understanding it is Minister Needworth now, but we'll also just need

1788
04:53:31,680 --> 04:53:37,820
to check in with other ministries to see where that's best targeted. Okay, thank you.

1789
04:53:38,420 --> 04:53:44,120
And this kind of popped in and this is probably something that people know very well,

1790
04:53:44,120 --> 04:53:48,600
But how does this sequence with the AB Munis FCSS resolution?

1791
04:53:49,200 --> 04:53:53,680
Is there any FCSS ties or a lot of heads shaking?

1792
04:53:55,140 --> 04:53:57,860
Can somebody just sort of explain not to me, please?

1793
04:53:58,200 --> 04:53:59,320
Just the difference why I understand?

1794
04:54:00,700 --> 04:54:04,080
Thank you for the question through the mayor to Councillor Goodwin.

1795
04:54:04,580 --> 04:54:11,640
FCSS funding in legislation is directed towards primary and secondary prevention.

1796
04:54:11,640 --> 04:54:17,280
and the work that is being done in this particular space is considered intervention.

1797
04:54:18,560 --> 04:54:19,880
Okay, that clarifies it.

1798
04:54:19,880 --> 04:54:20,780
Thank you very much.

1799
04:54:21,100 --> 04:54:22,720
That's all I have for questions.

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04:54:23,720 --> 04:54:24,420
Councillor Bress.

1801
04:54:24,580 --> 04:54:25,080
Oh, sorry.

1802
04:54:25,720 --> 04:54:26,780
Supplemental to that.

1803
04:54:27,040 --> 04:54:33,020
I would just like clarity from maybe Councillor Curtis, the motion that you had suggested was

1804
04:54:33,020 --> 04:54:38,020
also seeing if FCSS would be able to do intervention work as well.

1805
04:54:38,220 --> 04:54:41,340
Was that the nature of the resolution you were advocating for?

1806
04:54:41,340 --> 04:54:47,100
the past resolution on FSS. Okay, we're getting our systems wired here.

1807
04:54:47,660 --> 04:54:50,980
Um, so it was advocacy broadcast wires. Go ahead. Sorry, Mayor.

1808
04:54:51,700 --> 04:54:57,620
Um, so it was advocacy for supplemental funding outside of FCSS for intervention

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04:54:57,620 --> 04:55:02,800
based needs. So it's not taking over what FCSS is doing specifically.

1810
04:55:03,340 --> 04:55:08,760
Um, it's secondary funding much like healthy aging Alberta where it would be

1811
04:55:08,760 --> 04:55:21,900
to intervention based needs from a ministry outside of the ministry that has FCSS and that file right now given that file where FCSS rests or that ministry has a much smaller part of money.

1812
04:55:22,080 --> 04:55:24,900
So this would be advocated to a different ministry.

1813
04:55:25,740 --> 04:55:27,580
Okay, hopefully that answers the question.

1814
04:55:27,740 --> 04:55:29,880
Question from Councillor Barnes-Dibble, I believe.

1815
04:55:30,940 --> 04:55:37,400
Thank you, Mayor Jeffries. Sorry if I've missed this, but is there, do we know how many individuals use?

1816
04:55:37,400 --> 04:55:54,460
Um, youth transitional housing in red, you right now, how many there are, is there a, is there a back log, is there current individuals that will now be struggling, um, without the funding. I just wanted to know there wasn't anything in the report about how many we have in their community. We often talk about that. So maybe just an opportunity.

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04:55:55,200 --> 04:56:06,080
You bet. Thank you for the question through you, Mayor, to Council, Barn Stable. We do have the latest, um, cap numbers, so coordinated access. And so currently we have.

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04:56:06,080 --> 04:56:16,740
Four individuals that are under 18 that are currently on the cap list and we have 23 individuals that are between the ages of 18 to 24.

1819
04:56:18,220 --> 04:56:28,360
What is not reflected in those numbers is that we're not necessarily actively seeking youth to fill spots because we don't have the spots available.

1820
04:56:29,040 --> 04:56:34,620
So that's the difference but those are the numbers that we have that are right now sitting waiting to be housed.

1821
04:56:36,040 --> 04:56:42,900
And part of my ignorance, but I appreciate an understanding what does you, because I can picture

1822
04:56:42,900 --> 04:56:49,600
what transitional housing looks like for adults, but youth, like 15 to 17, maybe paint

1823
04:56:49,600 --> 04:56:55,720
a picture of what that actually looks like, because I have a difficulty seeing a 15-year-old

1824
04:56:55,720 --> 04:56:59,300
employer growl trying to navigate their way through this, so can you maybe explain what this

1825
04:56:59,300 --> 04:56:59,900
looks like?

1826
04:56:59,900 --> 04:57:03,680
Thank you for the question through your marriage, Councilor Barn Stable.

1827
04:57:04,360 --> 04:57:11,060
What the Arcadia program itself was for youth between 16 and 24 years old, and you are

1828
04:57:11,060 --> 04:57:15,740
correct transitional housing for youth is quite a bit different than it is for adults.

1829
04:57:16,180 --> 04:57:23,080
With youth transitional housing usually requires a longer period of time because they have

1830
04:57:23,080 --> 04:57:23,940
to age out.

1831
04:57:23,940 --> 04:57:31,300
So, anybody under the age of 18 still stays within the program, so they're not transitioned

1832
04:57:31,300 --> 04:57:34,000
when they get to be 16 if they have skills.

1833
04:57:34,280 --> 04:57:35,860
They remain within the program.

1834
04:57:36,260 --> 04:57:41,060
So that's why it's a little bit different than transitional housing for adults themselves.

1835
04:57:42,520 --> 04:57:43,260
Thank you, those are my questions.

1836
04:57:44,140 --> 04:57:44,480
Thank you.

1837
04:57:44,680 --> 04:57:46,680
Councillor Bermas, yours in response to your thoughts, sir.

1838
04:57:47,020 --> 04:57:47,580
Thank you.

1839
04:57:47,720 --> 04:57:53,680
My understanding at the time of the withdrawal funding for that is that there were 12

1840
04:57:53,680 --> 04:58:00,440
to two residences, single family residences in communities, with six youth in each of those,

1841
04:58:01,000 --> 04:58:06,820
and that with the closure of that, there were 12 residents at the time when that took place.

1842
04:58:07,560 --> 04:58:14,160
So they basically ended up getting rid of the rental agreement that they had for that.

1843
04:58:14,160 --> 04:58:18,720
So there were 12 youth that were used by services at the time that the funding was cut.

1844
04:58:20,220 --> 04:58:22,120
And I'm not sure where they are today.

1845
04:58:22,120 --> 04:58:27,600
Thanks for that clarification. I know it caused you great concern when it came about.

1846
04:58:27,780 --> 04:58:28,960
Councillor Brisbane, please.

1847
04:58:31,550 --> 04:58:35,450
I think I'm okay. Actually it was around the number of youth that we had, but Councillor

1848
04:58:35,450 --> 04:58:44,410
Barnabas asked that question. I was curious, so too, just around the, because this is such a vulnerable population.

1849
04:58:44,610 --> 04:58:50,050
This is really the chance to make a difference, or go down a different, different path.

1850
04:58:50,050 --> 04:58:56,310
do we know where these youth are coming from like are they all read your youth or is there

1851
04:58:56,310 --> 04:59:02,190
do you there any way of knowing that or you don't even from this province like do we have

1852
04:59:02,190 --> 04:59:06,330
any indication of where these youth might be coming from?

1853
04:59:06,330 --> 04:59:09,450
Thank you for the question through you mayor to Councillor Brisbane.

1854
04:59:10,310 --> 04:59:16,990
The next step of our pit count will happen in October and that is when we can do the more

1855
04:59:16,990 --> 04:59:20,390
in-depth survey, and we can ask those particular questions.

1856
04:59:20,810 --> 04:59:24,070
We would have the information on their Spadot test,

1857
04:59:24,470 --> 04:59:28,130
which is how we gauge a cutie for those individuals

1858
04:59:28,130 --> 04:59:30,010
seeking a home.

1859
04:59:30,870 --> 04:59:35,630
But what we know anecdotally is primarily the youth

1860
04:59:35,630 --> 04:59:38,090
within the programs are from the Red Deer

1861
04:59:38,090 --> 04:59:39,870
or Central Alberta area.

1862
04:59:40,950 --> 04:59:43,470
That was my understanding too with

1863
04:59:45,580 --> 04:59:45,920
the.

1864
04:59:45,920 --> 04:59:48,320
Thank you, Councillor Tweedle, for your comments.

1865
04:59:48,320 --> 04:59:50,680
I think are we good on questions council?

1866
04:59:51,420 --> 04:59:52,220
We're on to comments.

1867
04:59:52,560 --> 04:59:53,140
Thank you, council.

1868
04:59:53,480 --> 04:59:54,740
Thank you, Mayor.

1869
04:59:55,400 --> 04:59:58,360
And I also served with Councillor Burma on the committee.

1870
04:59:59,040 --> 04:59:59,960
And I would echo.

1871
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:05,680
His thoughts that when we first found out about this, there was very strong feelings around the table in that room when we met.

1872
05:00:07,140 --> 05:00:15,000
The only reason we were able to look forward to maybe helping these youth out now is because we were lucky enough to have that carry over funding.

1873
05:00:15,260 --> 05:00:18,620
And I'd hate to think of where we would be right now if we didn't have that.

1874
05:00:18,620 --> 05:00:26,120
I also serve on the fund adjudications of committee and I know when we met and have these discussions.

1875
05:00:26,340 --> 05:00:30,600
It was important for us to mention advocacy in this piece.

1876
05:00:31,060 --> 05:00:36,480
Councillor Burma mentioned that the provider before, once this funding was pulled, they got rid of assets.

1877
05:00:36,780 --> 05:00:40,900
They sold furniture. They got rid of things. They cancelled leases.

1878
05:00:41,780 --> 05:00:47,080
So this is starting from scratch again. So if we end up in the same place, we're not at least trying to be a voice.

1879
05:00:47,080 --> 05:00:53,360
both in the spring or end up with kids that don't have places to go, but also to continually

1880
05:00:53,360 --> 05:00:58,280
investing in something that may fall through, as far as maybe changing the wording.

1881
05:00:59,020 --> 05:01:05,400
I would hate to see the word youth removed, and that just more generalized, because part

1882
05:01:05,400 --> 05:01:08,800
of the direction of this was because this was the one and only option.

1883
05:01:09,680 --> 05:01:13,780
For housing for this age group and transitional, so I'd like definitely the youth piece

1884
05:01:13,780 --> 05:01:16,300
to remain a piece of that because without this,

1885
05:01:16,300 --> 05:01:18,060
there's nothing else for this population.

1886
05:01:20,380 --> 05:01:22,540
And Bobby Joe had spoken to it,

1887
05:01:22,920 --> 05:01:25,220
but this is not just about a place for them to stay.

1888
05:01:25,260 --> 05:01:26,260
This is like skills.

1889
05:01:27,080 --> 05:01:30,020
This is building in these kids to try to prevent them

1890
05:01:30,020 --> 05:01:31,160
from ending up homeless.

1891
05:01:31,960 --> 05:01:34,300
So to me, this is such an important program

1892
05:01:34,300 --> 05:01:37,240
and I believe strongly that this is something

1893
05:01:37,240 --> 05:01:39,520
we should step behind to advocate for.

1894
05:01:41,720 --> 05:01:43,260
Thank you, Councillor Cronk, please.

1895
05:01:44,900 --> 05:01:48,420
Yeah, I want to thank the committee for reading this board and Julie for Councilor

1896
05:01:48,420 --> 05:01:51,120
Bruma for his already advocacy work on this file too.

1897
05:01:51,260 --> 05:01:55,840
As a parent and someone who was a foster parent for many years, recognizing that people

1898
05:01:55,840 --> 05:01:59,380
then end up in youth transition housing is the hardest and the most difficult

1899
05:01:59,380 --> 05:01:59,880
situation.

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05:02:01,340 --> 05:02:04,560
So, happy to support the motion and advocacy in any way that I can.

1901
05:02:05,880 --> 05:02:06,480
Thank you.

1902
05:02:06,820 --> 05:02:07,840
Councillor Goodwin, please.

1903
05:02:08,820 --> 05:02:09,520
Thank you, Mayor.

1904
05:02:09,520 --> 05:02:14,280
And yes, thank you very much for bringing the attention to this.

1905
05:02:14,720 --> 05:02:23,020
When I first heard about this, again, I can't state how appalling it is that as a society,

1906
05:02:24,000 --> 05:02:29,980
there isn't a set platform or safe base for this population.

1907
05:02:29,980 --> 05:02:38,940
for you. We often times in society reward pulling the people out of the river but we don't stop

1908
05:02:38,940 --> 05:02:44,500
and go, well, how do they get into the river? Where do we stop them from getting in there? And

1909
05:02:44,500 --> 05:02:51,680
advocacy on this line. And this is as much for the community as it is for us and administration.

1910
05:02:52,320 --> 05:02:59,780
We really do have to generally advocate strongly to have good skill set building

1911
05:02:59,780 --> 05:03:08,100
protective places for youth. So I will be supporting this and hopefully we can come up with

1912
05:03:08,100 --> 05:03:14,840
something and multiple pathways of justifying where the funding needs to come from.

1913
05:03:15,840 --> 05:03:17,480
Thank you, Councillor Curtis, please.

1914
05:03:21,150 --> 05:03:23,470
Thank you, Mayor Jeffries. And again, I want to thank

1915
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HHHIC for bringing this forward. And I do, I hear my colleagues' comments about removing youth

1916
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and then that not be in the priority, ultimately I do feel transitional housing in our

1917
05:03:36,550 --> 05:03:42,710
cities just critical generally. But that said, given not many of these youth are aging out of

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care and therefore children's services ministry should be responsible for these youth, especially

1919
05:03:48,690 --> 05:04:00,390
given that they have lowered the age. So I would just encourage when it comes to advocacy that we

1920
05:04:00,390 --> 05:04:04,990
of mentioned here to support you during these fundamental years.

1921
05:04:05,950 --> 05:04:11,950
So you throw a vulnerable group and things like signing up for utilities and having

1922
05:04:11,950 --> 05:04:17,370
credit and signing leases are not possible in most cases under the age of 18.

1923
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I don't think many people consider those factors and then on top of that having all the

1924
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items you need to move out and secure a place and have that stability and the life skills

1925
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being able to pay bills. These are all things that our life skills that these youth need to

1926
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build to be successful in community and often they don't come with those skills and are not

1927
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scaffolded with those skills when they age out of care. So I do strongly support the motion and

1928
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I do hope that it's successful. Thank you Councillor Curtis and I'll go to Councillor Brisbane please.

1929
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Thank you, Mayor.

1930
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Yes, echo the comments and thank you very much for bringing it forward in the

1931
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solution for it.

1932
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I guess the only thing I would add is just that because this is such a vulnerable

1933
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population, we don't, time is of the essence, I guess, and when it comes to this.

1934
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And so, you know, thinking too strategically about who else could partner and help be

1935
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a voice in this.

1936
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So United Way, your Boys and Girls Club Advocacy Center, you know, all these other spaces

1937
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that could really help advocate for this in the right way would be key.

1938
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Thank you very much, Councillor Brisbane.

1939
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I appreciate that.

1940
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Councillor Barnes, did it please?

1941
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Thank you, Mayor Jeffries.

1942
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Yes, it's struggling to read through and wrap my head around.

1943
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This is going on in our community.

1944
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This past week, every kid that I had in my other job was aged 14 to 17.

1945
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So I'm just picturing those 10 kids, not having a home or anywhere to go.

1946
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And then here in Council of Rumors say that there was in 12 individuals that we don't

1947
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know where they're at today, that's really, it's hitting me my core, my heart, I'm hopeful

1948
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that the advocacy can be strong in this and we can get the provincial government to change

1949
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direction or just the funding to change direction, I should say, but I'm hopeful that those

1950
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12 individuals that didn't have a place that someone from the community stepped up, churches

1951
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stepped up. This is something that I think regardless of whether the funding is there or not,

1952
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we as a community need to step up for these kids and find a way I know there's a number of people

1953
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that could do that so I'll hope that the funding is sorted out and we don't have to go down that road

1954
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but it's hitting me in the core here today of just hearing this report and even just understanding

1955
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what that transitional housing looks like. So obviously, we want to support advocacy efforts

1956
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and hopefully there's successful.

1957
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Thank you very much. Councillor Baruma.

1958
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Thank you very much. First I would like to acknowledge Gordon Wright, who is the chair of

1959
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H. H. I.C.E. was here earlier but had another commitment and he would have been a strong voice

1960
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for that, and that really does speak collectively of all of the members that are on the HHIC

1961
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Committee, not only are they committed to it, but many of them are working in that difficult

1962
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and challenging field and doing some really good work.

1963
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I do also want to echo that when fun to do the occasion.

1964
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Was done by the committee for both province and federal that allowed a far more intelligent way, really, of being able to do that housing and taking a look at the resources.

1965
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It's unfortunate that the provincial arm of that is not under the purview of the housing and homeless integration committee.

1966
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I would hope that there's opportunities to continue working on that, and the more integrated

1967
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the housing opportunities are and the funding for that, I think the better we're able to

1968
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make a difference around that.

1969
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Thank you very much for that.

1970
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I appreciate all of the emphasis on those pieces that have come through the conversation

1971
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And, or, you know, everyone recognizing this is serious stuff in our community, and we need

1972
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to step up for sure.

1973
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In meetings with our MLAs, we have had conversations around the changes with respect

1974
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to the community-based organization or community entity, and the struggles that that is creating

1975
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the gaps, even lack of oversight and understanding of who's doing what role clarity and

1976
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who should be expecting to provide which service.

1977
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I've made some notes on advocacy and

1978
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Bree is at the back of the room, making a lot of notes I see.

1979
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So I think there's room for conversation around the

1980
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Mid-Size City Mayor's caucus table.

1981
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Certainly we'll have conversations with CSG,

1982
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Canadian Strategy Group.

1983
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I also think we should add to our list on this one.

1984
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Albert Aminis, Safe and Healthy Communities Committee,

1985
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may be able to help on this front in addition to the work that's being done at HHIC and also

1986
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at the Intercity Farm on Social Policy, continuing to speak not only for the needs of teens and youth

1987
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in our community but also for that community-based role to be better defined and at least have

1988
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communications so that we have an understanding of what's happening there. So I appreciate all of

1989
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the comments of agencies or groups that may be able to help on the advocacy front. I think that's

1990
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great strategy to include United Way and UTHQ and the list is fairly long will make a complete

1991
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list and appreciate all of your input on that. Not seeing any other names in the queue, so

1992
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we'll call the question. I want to thank our members, obviously, on HHIC as well as staff who support

1993
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and chair Gordon Wright. I'll call the question council.

1994
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Move by council room. We did get that sorted. Thank you very much.

1995
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Little work in the background. Magic.

1996
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Well, if you haven't already.

1997
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I'm in favor.

1998
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Thank you, council room.

1999
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And that's unanimously supported.

2000
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And thank you all very much.

2001
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Council that brings to a close our work for today and once again thanks to all of staff

2002
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who have worked and our audio team who's enabled to have been enabled today to happen

2003
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and I recognize it's a bunch of change in a bunch of work that really didn't need but it will

2004
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help us through and hopefully get us back to Council Chambers in short order so appreciate that

2005
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and notice our motion during please Councilor Wienci,

2006
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Wienches, and Councilor Con, please.

2007
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All those in favor?

2008
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Anybody want to stay?

2009
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Thank you very much.

2010
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Thanks so much so much.

2011
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Thank you.