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Very good everyone.

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[clears throat]

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>> Happy new year.

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>> Welcome to the Red Hook Town Lord

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meeting of Tuesday, January 13, 2026.

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Would you kindly join me in the pledge

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of allegiance, please?

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you all very much. I hope that you

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had a happy and healthy, probably the

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most challenging part of that uh holiday

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season. And for the folks at home uh

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wanting to know what we'll be discussing

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uh this evening,

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we have two uh public hearings. Uh one

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is related to

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um or actually both are related to the

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rehab of the water district number one

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uh storage tank. And um we actually have

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a couple of our water board members with

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us this evening. Um and we'll start the

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evening off with that. We then will move

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on to our annual reorganization meeting

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uh rather resolution. We'll then um

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address two highway related uh matters.

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We approve the annual expenditures for

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capital uh improvements, road

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improvements. We have our highway

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superintendent here somewhere. I thought

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I saw her right. Teresa. Oh, there you

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are. Okay. Very good. Um and uh we'll

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then move on to a discussion and

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approval of a new EV cargo van for the

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highway department. Um we'll then take

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up those uh issues related to the

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storage tank. Um we have a resolution

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approving an amendment to the fire

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protection district agreement with the

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village of Tivoli. Um, if you've been

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following along on many of these issues

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in previous meetings, um, the village of

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Tivoli and the Tivoli Fire Department

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met with us, um, and said that they

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needed additional help. We had initially

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allocated $250,000

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towards the firehouse expansion project.

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They needed additional help. Um, we

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explained our time constraints with the

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ARPA funds that they needed to be

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expended this year. And so, uh, we put

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our heads together and came up with a

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plan to provide, um, additional capital

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line funding to, uh, double the support,

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first of all, $500,000,

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but to do it, uh, pay the debt

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associated with the borrowing that

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they're going to ensue. And this way uh

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both the the fire department village and

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[clears throat] also the town wouldn't

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be under the gun if you will uh with

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time constraints. So um it's our hope

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that uh we can be moving that forward

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because I know that they do want to go

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out uh to bid and that of course is a

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critical uh step that they need to take

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in order to know whether they're whether

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or not they're going to uh move forward

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with that project. Um we're going to

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discuss but uh not likely decide on um

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this year's health insurancey uh health

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insurance policy uh for the employees.

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Um we have a ministerial act um to do

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with assigning a delegate to uh the

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association of towns annual conference.

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um you uh see your representatives and

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by the way congratulations to our new

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Ken Miglorelli and Christine. [applause]

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We also didn't get a chance because of

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the meeting schedule to thank um our

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outgoing uh Julia Solomon and Christine

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Kaine for all of their work over the

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years and we'll be seeing and I'm sure

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hearing from both of them uh in the

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future. So thank you all to them. Uh but

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the point I was getting to uh is that we

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do um continuing education

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um each and every year uh whether it's

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remote courses or this annual conference

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where representatives from all the towns

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900 plus in New York State uh convene

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and uh we get up to speed on what the

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latest and greatest and share our

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thoughts and ideas with each other. Um

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we have a couple of resolutions related

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to assessments and then uh we'll discuss

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correspondence as it relates to where we

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are on um engineering study and uh

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reducing speed limits townwide.

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With that being said, why don't we very

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quickly

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um go and do uh supervisor's report for

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this month. Uh folks, all I have is the

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cash portion as you know. Um we uh

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continue to acrewue

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um expenses throughout January. So

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you'll get this uh updated

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um later on in January. But from a cash

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position, we do this the first meeting

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of each month. Um I'll report to uh the

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folks. We started with an opening

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balance of 9,32,000.

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We had receipts of 3,971

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dispersements of 2,444,000

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with an ending balance of 10,828,000.

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I won't ask you to accept the

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supervisor's report because this is the

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only portion of it that we have uh for

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tonight. Um Diana, could we uh quickly

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do the clerk's report, please?

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» No. I didn't I didn't do a vote.

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>> Oh, okay.

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>> It's just the the brief portion of it.

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>> Oh, okay. Um, town clerk's report for

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the period of December 1st, 2025 to

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December 31st, 2025. Total local shares

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remitted remitted, $8,37,947.

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Amount paid to New York State

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Agriculture Markets for the spayneuter

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program, $36. Amount paid to New York

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State Department of Health for marriage

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licenses, $45. Amount paid to New York

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State controller for games of chance

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bell jar license $15. Amount paid to New

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York State Environmental Conservation

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for hunting and fishing licenses $68.3.

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Total state, county, and local revenues

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$8,543.50.

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And there are there vouchers or

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>> there are vouchers. I hereby certify

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vouchers numbered 3236

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34236

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to 34386 totaling 77 757,1944

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processed in the month of December 2025

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are an accurate reporting of the

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abstracts approved for payment by the

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town board.

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>> Very good. Thank you very much Diana. Is

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there a motion to accept a parks report?

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>> I I have a few questions.

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>> Okay. So looking at this, so we're

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charging trailer park fees.

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>> Oh, it's um the the license is their

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licenses for a year. $15 a year to have

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a trailer park.

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It's like a license.

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>> So we it looks like it's $75 a year to

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have a a trailer.

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>> Where? Oh, I'm sorry.

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>> There's five. online. There are that's

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only um there's actually

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um I think there's six parks, but we um

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we only we got paid I think we did one

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last month, too. Like in November, we

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had a payment for one.

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>> Can you just explain what that is?

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>> Yeah, I I think Diana just did. There

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are five trailer park fees. There's a

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$15 annual fee associated and there's

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five total of 75

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a park

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collective any amount of

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>> Yes. So so the like for instance the

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trailer park up on Mountain View

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um they pay $15 a year for a license to

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have the park

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>> and what and why do we charge trailer

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parks? That's a New York state.

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Comes from the state.

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» There's a state mandated fee for

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trailer.

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>> I believe it. I believe it's um I'd have

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to look that up, but it's definitely a

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mandated fee to have. It's $15.

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>> It's like a registration.

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>> Yeah. Every year annually. So,

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I just send out a quick letter and then

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send them a license with a seal on it

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once they pay the $15.

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» Um, yeah, it seems strange to me that

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we'd be that we would be allocating fees

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towards trailer parks.

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I'd like to understand more about that.

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>> I'll look into it and give it give you

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more information on it. And then the

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other the other thing that stuck out to

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me was the dog licensing fees.

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I mean obviously this is a minority of

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people that choose to participate

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in licensing their dogs, but we've got

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we've we've we've got pure breads or

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discounted fees. Like where where do

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these fees come from?

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>> Um so the fees are are set by New York

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State. Um, it's the law to license your

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dog. People should be licensing their

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dogs in town of Red Hook. Um, if we only

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have one purebred license or I think the

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purebred license was literally I think

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we have one in the whole that we have in

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our whole

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>> there's one that I think we've just done

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that. That's the one. Um, but usually if

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it's unneutered, the dogs um are $22 a

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year and for uh spay and neutered dogs

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it's $15 a year. And um New York State I

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think it's um 14 and then a dollar goes

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to New York State. So 14 for the town, a

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dollar for the state.

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It's gets split that way but by New York

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>> I I'd just like to understand where

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these where where these fees come from.

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um looking at the report and trying

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>> Oh, I can definitely I'll put something

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together for you.

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Hearing no other questions. Um is there

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a motion to accept the corpse report?

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>> Thank you. Is there a second?

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>> Thank [snorts] you, Jacob. All in favor?

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>> Okay. Uh, a couple of quick

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announcements and then we'll get to our

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public hearing. Um,

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very good news. Uh, the town was, uh,

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awarded a grant that we applied for for,

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uh, central sewer. It was the

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intermunicipal grant. Um it's a program

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that the governor uh to her credit uh

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created um to uh help support uh sewer

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projects that uh involve more than one

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uh municipality.

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Um when we created the TND sewer

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district, the extension of which is um

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from town hall is TND all the way down

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to the parcel south of Hannifford.

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Um we told the the residents and

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property owners there that we would not

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uh move forward likely until we receive

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some grant funding. We applied for the

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full amount, 40% of the estimated

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project cost, and that's these

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businesses up and down Route 9 on both

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sides. Um, we've been uh notified that

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we're awarded uh 2.563

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million

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um towards what was estimated a couple

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of years ago as 6.5

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6.6 million project. Um if you've been

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following along in previous meetings, we

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took some of our ARPA allocation

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uh 3 four years ago, we felt so strongly

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about um helping out the businesses up

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and down Route 9 that we allocated over

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a half a million dollars as well towards

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that.

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um together that adds up to nearly $3.1

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million towards again what was at the

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time estimated to be 6.56.6

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million. Uh obviously when when and if

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we decide [clears throat] to go out to

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bid that number uh could change. [cough]

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So at this point we've asked the village

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to take a look at um the demand um for

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expansion on their portion

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uh because the sewer plant which is

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modular in nature

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um

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to understand whether or not they could

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begin to uh design a system short of the

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full 300,000 gallons a day um in order

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to help us out and start on this process

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and uh try to get the construction done

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before uh the project costs um continue

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to go up.

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So, uh really good news there uh folks

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for uh 2026

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um events. So, it's a new year. We'll be

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having our usual seven or eight spring

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events here in the town. Uh we start off

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uh not this upcoming weekend but the

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following weekend with our quarterly Red

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Hook Repair Cafe um hosted uh as has

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been now for some time by the community

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center 10 to 1. There are lot lots of

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items that you uh can bring and lots of

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terrific uh volunteers to help uh repair

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these types of uh items that you have in

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your house. and other things

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10 to 1. That's Saturday, January 24th.

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We thank everybody coming here. Um we I

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think we have a few folks from Barrytown

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here this evening. Um you and others may

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in particular be interested. Next

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Wednesday night, I've arranged for

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Duchess County DPW to come and make a

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presentation related to the bridge

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replacement project which will be in

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Anandale. That's just south of uh the

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triangle

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um on River Road and uh that's 6:30 here

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at town hall. You'll hear about um some

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of the thoughts um changes that they're

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proposing to make. I believe there's a

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three-foot sidewalk on the one side of

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the the bridge. They're talking about

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potentially having a 5-ft sidewalk um on

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both sides of the bridge there. But

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you'll find out more. It's here

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Wednesday night, January 21st at 6:30.

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And lastly, uh, everybody wants to

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survey you and Duchess County wants to

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survey you as it were, uh, as it

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pertains to transportation in, uh, the

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county. And it looks like you get a $25

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gift card if you do so. And here is the

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survey itself. You'll need to go online

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in order to do that.

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But as we are soliciting your thoughts

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and ideas townwide for the comprehensive

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plan, it would be great to also get your

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input as it relates to getting around

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the county. Um, and in particular,

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Northern Duchess.

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>> Where do you get that?

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>> It's online, Duchess County. Um you can

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Google moving duchess forward and this

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will be uh on our website and you can

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link directly there from our website.

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This is the hyperlink here.

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Moving duchess forward is the

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name of the effort. Okay. With that

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being said, thanks for your patience. Um

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we have our first public hearing and

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that is related uh to uh the increase

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and improvement of water district

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facilities for revenue water district

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number one. [clears throat] Diana, would

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you be kind enough to read the public

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hearing notice?

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>> Notice of public hearing on proposal for

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an increase and improvement of water

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district facilities for Red Hook Water

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District number one. Notice is hereby

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given that the town board of the town of

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Red Hook, Duchess County, will meet on

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the 13th day of January, 2026 at 7:35

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o'clock PM prevailing time for the

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purpose of conducting a public hearing

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upon a proposal by said town board to

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undertake proposed improvements to the

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facilities of the town of Red Hook Water

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District number one pursuant to section

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202-B

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of the town law as here after described

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at which time and place said town board

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will meet to consider such proposition.

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ition and hear all persons interested in

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the subject thereof and concerning the

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same. The town board is considering a

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recommended work plan for improvements

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to to Red Hook Water District number one

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[clears throat] as described in the

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preliminary engineering report dated

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August 2022 as amended June 17, 2023 as

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further supplemented March 10th, 2025

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prepared by Tyenbond Engineering and

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Landscape Architecture PC including the

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rehabilitation of the existing standpipe

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at the Kelly Road Water Storage site and

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including original furnishings,

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equipment, machinery and apparatus

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required therefore the project at an

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estimated maximum cost of

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$1,6721,672,600

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a portion of such cost in the estimated

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amount of $400,000 is proposed to be

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paid from the water district's existing

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SW reserve fund and the remaining

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project cost is proposed to be financed

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pursuant to the local finance law. Such

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engineers preliminary report is on file

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in the town clerk's office for public

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inspection. The town board hasn't has

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determined that such project as

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described in the engineers report

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constitutes a type 2 action as defined

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under the state state environmental

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quality review regulations 6 NYCRR part

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617 which has been determined under

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secret not to have a significant impact

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on the environment. All interested

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persons will be given an opportunity to

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be heard. All reasonable accommodations

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will be made for persons with

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disabilities. In such a case, please

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notify the town clerk in advance at the

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above address or by phone so that

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arrangements can be made by order of the

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town board of the town of Red Hook dated

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December 9th, 2025. Deanna Cochran, town

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clerk, town of Red Hook.

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>> Thank you, Deanna. And for folks before

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we open the public hearing, if you've

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been following, uh, this agenda item has

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been, uh, discussed now for actually a

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few years. The water board has been back

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and forth trying to analyze the pros and

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cons of either replacement or

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rehabilitation and has settled, that's

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my plan for this evening, has settled on

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uh, rehab uh, as the preferred option.

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uh under these circumstances, the cost

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of which is approximately

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um $1.7 million. They proposed to take

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$400,000 out of the reserves. Um they

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have also we have also made a request to

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our college to contribute towards um the

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system since they on rare occasions, but

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they do [clears throat] use it as a

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backup. And uh so that's sort of the 302

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version of it. I won't ask the water

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board to revisit it, but they are here

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to answer any question. So, with that

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being said, um may we uh entertain a

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motion to open the public hearing?

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>> So moved.

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>> Thank you, Christina. Second.

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>> Second.

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>> Thank you, Bill. All in favor?

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>> I.

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>> Would [clears throat] somebody like to

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uh speak on this matter?

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» Um I have a question. What is it that

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you're going to rehab on the water

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tower?

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>> It's the tank itself.

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>> The whole thing. But what are you going

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to do? Are you going to paint it?

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>> It's going to be It's going to be

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repainted. Exactly. Did Did you want to

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address that question? I know you have

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previously.

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>> Well,

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>> you don't have to stand up.

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>> That's right. Anyway, um like anything

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else that we own,

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equipment, whatever. It deteriorates.

471
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Okay. I was thinking about maybe it's

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like your automobile. Every once in a

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while, you have to either fix it up or

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replace it. And that's what we're going

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to do with this tank. We have to fix it

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up. It's really held up very, very well

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since 1989 when it went online. Um

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the paint um surfaces are still good,

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but

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uh if we don't repaint it soon,

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[snorts and clears throat]

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it'll become very very difficult. And

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you know, like anything else, the longer

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you let things go, the worse the

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problem. So we decided that

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given the likelihood

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of additional major expenses for the

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water district in the next 15 20 years

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that we preferred to go with the expense

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of rehabilitating this tank rather than

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replacing it. The cost of a new tank was

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uh

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over twice as much. It's just the decision that we recommendation that

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we came to that we're better off

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rehabilitating this tank

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with a loan with a cost ofund or a

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million6 or seven or whatever it's going

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to be versus probably a total cost of

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close to 4 million for a new tech. So

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that was our recommendation. And that is

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our recommendation and it's just

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something that has to be done sooner or

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later. So,

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>> do you paint the inside of the tank?

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>> Yes. Okay.

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>> So,

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uh we'll have to drain the tank and they

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clean up the interior of the tank and uh

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you know clean up all rust spots and

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little damages and then re put primers

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on. Anyway, they repaint it. And while

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they do that, um, and probably before

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they they paint, we'll inspect to make

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sure that the tank is properly cleaned

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and ready for paint. And then we'll

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inspect again once or twice during the

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painting process. So, um, we hope for

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good weather because that's important

519
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and that's the way we plan to go.

520
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>> Okay.

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Other questions or comments?

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>> Rich Rinders,

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>> Red Hook on the tank. I get it. The

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money you're saying 1.7 million now

525
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uh versus 4 million.

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So, if you possibly get 8 5 8 10 years

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out of this refurbished tank with what

528
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you're calling paint.

529
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I'm not sure when you say paint, what

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you mean by paint.

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However,

532
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in 10 years, what would the cost be

533
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then? 15 million. Would it be better off

534
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today to pay the 4 million, put a new

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tank in for something that's already

536
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approximately 30 years old, right? Or

537
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you said 1989

538
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89 it went online. Yeah.

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>> Okay. So,

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>> thing is,

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>> so what I'm saying is moneywise,

542
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pay now. put a new tank in now because

543
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10 years down the road you might be at

544
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,520
12 million for this tank the way our

545
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440
economy is going. I mean that's

546
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,480
something to think about. I don't know

547
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,919
if it's been tossed around. It's just a

548
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,679
suggestion. That's all it is.

549
00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:26,240
>> And while I'm on it, when you say paint,

550
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,279
what is this paint?

551
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:28,480
>> It's a coating.

552
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,760
>> I know it's a coating, but

553
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,440
>> a real high-end coating that we

554
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000
>> So obviously since ' 89 it's worn off

555
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
and is that getting to our water system?

556
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,919
This so-called paint?

557
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:41,360
>> No. So since 1989, we haven't had to

558
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,120
code it at all, which is, you know, so

559
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,720
when they tell us 10 years for a

560
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,440
coating.

561
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,000
>> Yeah.

562
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,360
>> You know, it took we're 30 years and

563
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,279
change and and we haven't had to code

564
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:55,760
it. Um, so we've actually typically a

565
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760
good coating is 15 years you can get out

566
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,917
of a really good coating.

567
00:25:58,917 --> 00:25:59,200
[clears throat]

568
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,880
>> So that's what we're hope hoping for.

569
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,320
That's what we pushed. We

570
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000
>> we were back and forth for about four

571
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,840
years on this decision whether to get

572
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,039
>> No, I understand that's a big decision.

573
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:08,480
I get it. I'm just I'm just putting it

574
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,960
out there. Costwise now versus 10 years

575
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,039
down the road, what will the cost be? If

576
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,799
it was 4 million today is going to be 12

577
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,919
million 10 years down the road. That's all that's all I'm putting out

578
00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:18,080
there.

579
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,159
>> It's true. Uh what we're thinking of is

580
00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:25,200
not just this loan paying off this loan,

581
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,440
but we have a 60 70 year old system.

582
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000
Water manes don't last forever. We're

583
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,840
going to have to be replacing repairing

584
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,720
and then replacing water manes. Uh we're

585
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,400
having some well work done soon. I hope

586
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,120
one of the wells has uh the output has

587
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,679
deteriorated significantly. So we're

588
00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:48,400
going to try to rehab it. If that works,

589
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,799
fine. Otherwise, they can drill a new

590
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,120
well and whatever. So these extra

591
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,360
expenses coming along, we just wanted to

592
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,120
keep our current, you know.

593
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:57,840
>> I understand.

594
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,559
>> Yeah, that's all.

595
00:26:58,559 --> 00:26:59,760
>> I was just putting it out there in a

596
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,640
different way so that

597
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,360
>> I agree.

598
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,799
>> It could be tossed around in the salad

599
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,799
that we're up here. Very

600
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,360
good. Um, any anyone else uh for the

601
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,200
public hearing? Any comments or

602
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,320
question?

603
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,880
>> Yeah.

604
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,960
>> Do we have a public hearing? I mean, are

605
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,880
we can we talk about something else?

606
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,720
Just like this.

607
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,559
>> This is a public hearing on this matter

608
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:21,760
>> and then you'll have

609
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,919
>> we'll have public comments later. Okay.

610
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:24,480
>> All right. Good.

611
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,919
>> I mean, Robert, I don't know how you

612
00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:27,120
want to conduct the meeting. I have

613
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,200
questions that are I I think are

614
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,760
relevant to what the public is saying. I

615
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,039
don't know how you want to conduct your

616
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,320
meeting, but like

617
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,000
>> we're here. We're here to hear from the

618
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,824
public. It's a public hearing

619
00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:39,200
[clears throat] on this matter. The

620
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,000
agenda item is related to the water tank

621
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,200
rehab.

622
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,640
>> How long will the bond be for?

623
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,200
>> The bond will be for 15 years. She's

624
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,159
sitting up there.

625
00:27:54,159 --> 00:27:56,240
>> The ber that's the maximum that we can

626
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,399
borrow for this length of term for this

627
00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:01,200
type of project.

628
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,120
>> And and you need to borrow for this even

629
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,679
though the town has lots of money.

630
00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:08,720
>> This is only funded by the users. Just

631
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000
um again uh folks um and I realize not

632
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,600
everybody's been here for all these

633
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000
other meetings. This is a water district

634
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,840
cost. The only folks that pay for this

635
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,240
are the users, the ones it's it's

636
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,159
referred to as a special benefit

637
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:26,880
assessment district, which means that

638
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,919
there is a benefit that occurs to those

639
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:32,799
who get to use the water and they're the

640
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,360
ones who pay for the cost. It's it's not

641
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,760
the town life who pay for this

642
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,240
additional.

643
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,240
>> But but I think that related to the

644
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720
questions that I've heard and I've

645
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360
listened to the previous discussions on

646
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,039
this topic. So there was an analysis in 2017

647
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,039
and in 2022.

648
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:53,440
>> Mhm.

649
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,399
>> So what I would like to understand is

650
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:59,760
what was the decision was made after

651
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960
both of those reviews as to why it

652
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,750
wasn't maintained at those periods.

653
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,720
Well,

654
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
first of all, there was no immediate

655
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:20,000
need in at those times. Um, we uh looked

656
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
ahead and knew we're going to do have to

657
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720
refurbish or replace sometime in the

658
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,799
future, but there was no real target

659
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,799
time. And I we reached a point last

660
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,200
year. Wow. I think I think we reached a

661
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
point where we realize that we really

662
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880
have to rehabilitate now or forget about

663
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080
it because if we let it go, the

664
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,080
repainting, the rehab is just going to

665
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,600
be too difficult and probably not as uh

666
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,520
longlasting. So we chose to go with the

667
00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:00,080
rehab now and uh try to uh avoid the uh

668
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600
accumulation of multiple large debts for

669
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,960
the other work that's going to have to

670
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,480
be done. And when you look at a rehab

671
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,039
versus a replacement,

672
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:16,320
um there's there's um there's there's

673
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,559
first costs, there's second cost, and

674
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,840
there's third costs that that are

675
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640
evaluated, right? So

676
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640
>> So [snorts] your your your second cost

677
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,240
are your maintenance, and your third

678
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760
costs are your replacement. And so was

679
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,360
it looked at as to like where that

680
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,440
crossed over into where it it it crossed

681
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,480
over into validating.

682
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,080
We looked out about 40 years. Okay. And

683
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,919
in that 40 years, we would have to rehab

684
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:54,240
probably twice and be ready for another

685
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,320
rehab. At that time with the the cost of

686
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,799
a new tank appeared to be better than

687
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:09,590
the cost of the multiple rehabs.

688
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,640
» Okay. Um

689
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,440
>> so then why

690
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440
>> we we'll have a sorry [clears throat]

691
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,039
>> Carrie did you have a question?

692
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,720
>> You just said the cost of the new one

693
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
would be more cost effective

694
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,520
>> if you look out 40 years and that's just

695
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,480
a guess you know.

696
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,799
>> Okay. So that a new tank in 40 years

697
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,320
would be [clears throat] a better deal

698
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640
than a couple of rehabs. You just said

699
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,320
that, but yet we were going to go for a

700
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,159
rehab, right? That

701
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:36,080
>> we're concern we were concerned.

702
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,679
>> Yeah, we were at a bare minimum of a

703
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:43,120
40-year payback, on a system. And we

704
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,559
know we're going to have additional

705
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,120
>> have other costs of if we if we were to

706
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,480
spend the money now on on on a new tank.

707
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,720
We would have no money to do any other

708
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640
repairs in the system. So we'd be very

709
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200
vulnerable in our water district. So

710
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,559
that was part of why we

711
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,960
>> Okay. And so so the so the new tank

712
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000
eaked out two rehabs,

713
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,159
but it gives you it's more cash friendly

714
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:10,320
now to do a rehab.

715
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,120
>> Yes, it definitely is.

716
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,640
And it's better loan repayments for all

717
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,440
of us.

718
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,840
>> Got it.

719
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,640
>> Okay.

720
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,039
>> Yeah. So, even though if you had the

721
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,399
money, you'd get a new tank right now

722
00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:28,640
because the 40-year payback is better.

723
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,760
>> Not necessarily.

724
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,039
>> Oh, I thought you [snorts] just said

725
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,080
that.

726
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,840
>> I'm not sure. You know, it's

727
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080
>> Oh, you did say that, but you're not

728
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
sure. Okay. I was just I heard that

729
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,279
said,

730
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:39,840
>> so

731
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240
>> scary. One thing you didn't that hasn't

732
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,559
been said here is that the [snorts]

733
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,039
mains it cost about a million dollars

734
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,880
right now for a mile to replace a main.

735
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,279
>> 80 [clears throat] years is about as far

736
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:54,159
as you can go.

737
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:55,440
>> He he explained that there.

738
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,760
>> Yeah. But we're going to have those are coming.

739
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,559
>> I get it.

740
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,559
>> And so you need to have asyn said you

741
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,799
need to have that the cash ability to

742
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,279
replace. don't have the cash then. But

743
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,559
you know, you did say that a 40-year

744
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,919
payback was better with a new tank, but

745
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:16,080
because of these other expenses, you

746
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320
don't have the cash on hand to do it,

747
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,159
>> even though it would be better to do.

748
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:21,679
>> Well,

749
00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:22,720
that's our guess.

750
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,279
>> The 40 year the 40-year payback we're

751
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:26,559
talking about is like a worst case

752
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:27,840
scenario. means we have to paint it

753
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,039
every 10 years and we've already gone 40

754
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:32,960
years for 30 something years without

755
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
painting it one time. So we may not

756
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760
paint it again for 30 years. It might

757
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,039
really be a 100 years.

758
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,000
>> Everyone's guessing

759
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
>> exactly

760
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,240
>> when you decide on your car deal.

761
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,600
My car is 21 years old.

762
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,039
>> You just don't know.

763
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,360
>> Anyway, that's the way it is. We we made

764
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,519
our recommendation. We thought we were

765
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,108
making the the best recommendation.

766
00:33:55,108 --> 00:33:55,519
[snorts]

767
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,360
>> Yeah. Yeah. Who knows?

768
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,679
>> Uh, another question, Emily.

769
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:02,240
>> Um, how many people does, uh, does the

770
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,799
border district serve? Uh, is it village

771
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,399
of Red Hook or Red Hook?

772
00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:08,399
>> The town of Red Hook. It's basically the

773
00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:10,720
old Lynden Acres and College Park

774
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,879
subdivisions. That's is that's it.

775
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,040
>> So, how many residents?

776
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040
>> How many residents?

777
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,679
>> 488 connections and five of those are to

778
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,000
the town park.

779
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,440
>> Yeah. So, 500 connections. Two people,

780
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,240
three people per home per guest. Okay.

781
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,159
>> And can you explain the connection to

782
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,359
Bart?

783
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:35,669
>> Oh, that's um

784
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,040
when we uh built the tank, this current

785
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,839
tank, Bart College was in trouble with

786
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:45,280
water. They had uh inadequate supply.

787
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,599
They had no storage.

788
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,919
And they suggested that they would

789
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:52,639
contribute half the cost of this new of

790
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,040
a new tank.

791
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,960
given that we could connect to them and

792
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,800
they would use that storage tank as they

793
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,320
needed it. And for the first

794
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,000
20 years,

795
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,839
>> they uh they did use our water a lot in

796
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:12,720
2000 I think 2016. [clears throat] They

797
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,320
redid their water supply. Okay. So since

798
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,839
then they use us on an emergency basis

799
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:25,520
rather than on a regular basis. But they contributed because they needed the

800
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,320
additional water, the storage and the

801
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,599
water. [cough]

802
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,359
>> And so is [snorts] somebody currently

803
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:33,920
negotiating with Bard about their

804
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,960
contribution to this?

805
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,440
>> Somebody say your table here.

806
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,760
>> An ask has been made of Bart College.

807
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,240
they are going to uh take that up at

808
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,839
their uh meeting at later in the month

809
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:52,400
um to get approval for a contribution.

810
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,720
We hope that they would consider

811
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,040
something substantive

812
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
at least 25%. Now granted they barely

813
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040
use the the water but still as a backup

814
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,000
that's important [clears throat] thing

815
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,599
to that

816
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,520
>> and I understand the village is also is

817
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680
also a backup. There's portion of the

818
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320
village or part of the village that's

819
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,320
connected with this water supply.

820
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,720
>> Yes.

821
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,000
>> Did you want to talk about the

822
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,560
interconnect?

823
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,880
>> The village and the town water district

824
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,480
have a connection [clears throat]

825
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,400
on Willowbrook

826
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,839
U Lane just north of the village.

827
00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:30,960
Um the problem is that our storage tank

828
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,960
the the height is not high enough to

829
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,800
provide adequate pressure for the

830
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,119
village. The village can provide water

831
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,000
to us, but it doesn't work. It should

832
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400
have, but it wasn't adequately planned,

833
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,480
I guess. So, we cannot

834
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,400
>> provide the village with water unless we

835
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,710
pump. We'd have to install pumps.

836
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:55,599
» Okay.

837
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:55,920
>> Go.

838
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
>> Any more questions related? Again, once

839
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,560
to the rehabbing of the tank.

840
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,240
>> Hey, [clears throat] I got one question.

841
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,960
>> Yeah. Um, by no means am I a water

842
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,079
expert, paint expert, or a steel expert.

843
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,680
I know you've had divers in there,

844
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,960
you've done assessments from the

845
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,839
exterior. Um, the question I have, do

846
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:15,760
you feel that the company or, you know,

847
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,200
the outfit that's going to be addressing

848
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,079
this situation? Uh,

849
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:21,680
let me say this. Sometimes you get into

850
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,640
things, it's more advanced than what you

851
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960
anticipated. Is there a a point where

852
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,480
they'll be honest with you and say, "You

853
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,720
know what? Maybe we can't rehab this

854
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,560
tower because we got into it and it's

855
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,440
too far."

856
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
>> What do you think, Evelyn Glenn?

857
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,760
>> I don't think we're going to have a

858
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,400
problem with it.

859
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,839
>> I don't think so either.

860
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:40,880
>> It's hard to know.

861
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,800
>> The tank has been inspected every 5

862
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,160
years. Okay. Interior and exterior. And

863
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,560
the most recent inspection

864
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,240
showed that we're in pretty good shape.

865
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,119
There was very little damage inside the

866
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,720
tank. So, it's it's relatively clean in

867
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,960
terms of redoing it, repainting it.

868
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,400
>> Typically, they would have to do like

869
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,320
you've even got pretty extreme pitting.

870
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160
We'd have to do a resurfacing on it

871
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,240
before we would do a coating, which they

872
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,040
plan to do some of that. Um, but there

873
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,839
isn't an extreme amount of pitting in

874
00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:12,800
this case.

875
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,839
>> We're in good shape.

876
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:16,079
>> Worst, even if it gets past pitting, you

877
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,560
can still weld in new new steel plates.

878
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,160
But we're we're not in a situation where

879
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,320
we need any of that.

880
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,560
At least that's what the last divers

881
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,760
report showed.

882
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,400
>> The the last two or three, you know, the

883
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,880
last report was

884
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,599
>> barely worse. You know, didn't show much

885
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,440
additional deterioration from the

886
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,400
previous one. We're in good shape.

887
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,520
>> Lisa,

888
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,480
>> what is the anticipated assessment rate

889
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,760
for users in the district with or with and without a bar contribution?

890
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,079
We we haven't run the analysis and again

891
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,040
I want to remind folks what we are

892
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,200
entertaining tonight is the

893
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,280
authorization

894
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,119
um to approve going out to bid and the

895
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,160
financing. So every bond resolution

896
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,280
you'll see uh in any municipality your

897
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,839
resolution has to state the total cost

898
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:15,280
for the project maximum and the total

899
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,839
maximum borrowing. And so, uh, when and

900
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,079
if we're we're discussing Tiboli

901
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,320
Firehouse, uh, again tonight, and we're

902
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,400
also talking about water storage tank.

903
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560
When and if you go out to bid, you get

904
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,400
those bids, then you really truly

905
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,200
understand what that cost is and you

906
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440
contract with that entity to deliver

907
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,359
that service or that construction

908
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:40,000
project for that price. Um, the water

909
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,280
board has recommended that we once we

910
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,280
understand the difference uh between

911
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,320
um what we will have from both our

912
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,280
college and the $400,000 coming out of

913
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,680
the reserves because the water uh

914
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,720
district has approved reserves that we

915
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:02,160
look at a combination of raising rates

916
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,760
and um an assessment so that it's not a

917
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,240
large hit but it's also not a large

918
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,839
increase to the water rates.

919
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:11,520
>> And who's talking to Bard College? Like

920
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,000
what does that look like? Um the request

921
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,800
has I've made a request to Bard College

922
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800
to make a contribution. We have an

923
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,680
agreement by the [clears throat] way

924
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,480
with Bard College to provide water. So

925
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,560
we're not happy with the contribution.

926
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,200
We don't necessarily have to continue to

927
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,680
serve uh Bard College as a backup

928
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,079
source. Um we've had no issue. They

929
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:33,839
don't seem to have a problem with making

930
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:35,760
a contribution. Let's see what that is.

931
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,599
>> But we don't we don't at this date we

932
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:38,800
don't know what that looks like.

933
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,320
>> We don't at this date know what that

934
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160
looks like. That's correct. The good

935
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,119
thing is they really need us. Okay? They

936
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,560
don't need us often, but when they need

937
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,560
us, they need us. And for example, last

938
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,960
January, they were hooked into our

939
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,240
system for 3 or 4 weeks using us

940
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,160
full-time. Luckily, their student

941
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,400
population was low at that time. But

942
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,680
they do need us. Okay?

943
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,640
They have fire protection for one thing.

944
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,960
you know when if they need fire

945
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,359
protection they don't have adequate

946
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:15,520
storage to provide water they need us so

947
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,069
they will contribute

948
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:23,680
» okay um folks if there are no other

949
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,920
comments at this time I'd like to make a

950
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,839
motion to close the public hearing

951
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:29,280
>> I'd like to continue the public hearing

952
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,480
if we don't know what Bard is

953
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,440
contributing

954
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,599
>> okay well uh with or without the

955
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,560
contribution We do need to uh move

956
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,119
forward with the project. We have um

957
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:44,400
some time uh time issues. Uh hey, do you

958
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
want to address that because we need the

959
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040
project conducted you've advised?

960
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,680
>> We really need to get going. We want to

961
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,919
submit put out a request for proposals

962
00:41:53,919 --> 00:41:54,960
[clears throat]

963
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160
soon, early this year. We'd like to get

964
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,280
the painting the project done

965
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
in the summer, early summer, not late

966
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,040
summer.

967
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,800
Um, weather is a concern. Okay. So, the

968
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,949
sooner we get it done, the better

969
00:42:10,949 --> 00:42:13,040
[clears throat] and we'll just do what

970
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,160
we can.

971
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,359
>> Well, I I strongly recommend that we we

972
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:19,440
go for the new tank. For what I've done

973
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520
for a living for the last 40 years, I

974
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,280
suggest a new tank. If the town fishes

975
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,599
for some more money, go for the new tank

976
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,079
because what you're doing is a great

977
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,119
idea, but it's a short-term fix. Vote

978
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,529
for the new tank. That's my suggestion.

979
00:42:34,529 --> 00:42:34,640
>> [clears throat]

980
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,599
>> We've been we've agreed with that

981
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,440
>> anyway. Okay.

982
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,079
>> Um can you can you uh speak to just the

983
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:44,000
timing of

984
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000
>> because we've got several steps that we

985
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,839
have to have when

986
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:49,440
>> So try to do this this year

987
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,599
>> with or without Bard. We need we need

988
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,920
the water tank, right? We people who

989
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,680
live there,

990
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680
>> Bard doesn't want to do it. We still we

991
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,119
still have to have drinking water and

992
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,200
take showers whether Bard wants to

993
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,000
contribute or not. So, the bar thing I

994
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,079
understand is important to us all from a

995
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:07,920
cost savings standpoint, but we still

996
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480
need the water. Um, that's that's one

997
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,200
thing. Um, as far as the timing goes, we

998
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,720
still have to, you know, we get an

999
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,640
agreement here. We still have to get bid

1000
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,880
documents put together for this, get a

1001
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,280
bid bid out on the street. Takes a month

1002
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,599
to bid. We would be lucky to get this

1003
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,040
out by uh, you know, the June time frame

1004
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,640
to try and get them into construction.

1005
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,119
Um, you ideally you don't want to paint

1006
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,280
when it's super humid. So, you sort of

1007
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,839
want to try to get in there before the

1008
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,079
humid season or after the humid season.

1009
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,599
So, either way, we're we're sort of, you

1010
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,800
know, running up against it

1011
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,760
to to get out to bid and move forward

1012
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,520
with the project.

1013
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,640
I I understand wanting to know all the details, costs, and so on and so

1014
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,800
forth, but we're not going to know until

1015
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,960
we go out to bed. And I don't want to um

1016
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,839
the inspection seems to suggest that the

1017
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,400
tank's in good shape. But I don't think

1018
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,200
we should lose a year, which is really

1019
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,280
what it would mean if we delay um to

1020
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,440
wait to find out what a contribution is,

1021
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,319
which is

1022
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,000
>> What do you mean a year? But how do we

1023
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
wait a year? We meet every two weeks.

1024
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,240
>> We do meet every two weeks, but if we

1025
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,319
don't have an answer until February and

1026
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:28,160
we lose the bidding process,

1027
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,440
>> that was why I asked the question was

1028
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319
who who is so BART is a big for for me

1029
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,560
looking at this and looking at the the

1030
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,359
financials, Bart is a big piece of it

1031
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:39,359
and that's an unknown

1032
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:41,760
>> and so before I'm ready to take a vote

1033
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000
on this, I would like to know what that

1034
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,319
looks like and I think that that's part

1035
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:50,880
of the public process. So, I I don't I

1036
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,400
don't feel comfortable closing the

1037
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,640
public hearing until we know what BR is

1038
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,400
contributing.

1039
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,079
>> How come we don't know how much Bard is

1040
00:44:58,079 --> 00:44:59,040
contributing already?

1041
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,599
>> Because BART has not met with their

1042
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,240
board and made the request and done the

1043
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,599
appropriation. I will I would please let

1044
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,720
me finish answer your question.

1045
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,280
>> The decision to move forward happened

1046
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,240
only a few months ago. Bard appropriates

1047
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,040
its money on a on a different calendar

1048
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,440
year than we do. So, it's not in the

1049
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,040
budget because they haven't been asked

1050
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,359
for a contribution yet because the water

1051
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:28,319
board was still determining how it

1052
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:29,680
wanted to proceed.

1053
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,440
>> So, how do so, how do we find a solution

1054
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,119
to making sure that this is I mean that

1055
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:39,920
the the points that were made were were valid. I mean, you you can only

1056
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680
tank in certain uh months of the year.

1057
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,839
So there's if if it needs to be fixed

1058
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:47,760
this calendar year, there's a time clock

1059
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,800
that we're in we're in January and we

1060
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440
meet twice twice a month. So I don't I

1061
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,079
don't see a rush in in coming to a

1062
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,000
decision. I see a rush in getting

1063
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,760
information so that we have completeness

1064
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,839
and we can make a decision as soon as

1065
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:05,839
possible.

1066
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:08,160
>> So a question I would ask is like like

1067
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,160
BR is clearly a a part of this. How do we get that done?

1068
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,800
Well, I I you know, I don't have an

1069
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,440
answer for you because I don't know how

1070
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,839
BART works and appropriates their

1071
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,720
monies. All I know is that we have an

1072
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,440
agreement with BART that will have to be

1073
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,599
renegotiated and [clears throat] it will

1074
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,920
be B for to service them with water and

1075
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400
it'll be based on upon what type of

1076
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,280
contribution they make as they did

1077
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,800
historically.

1078
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,359
Um

1079
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:44,160
>> what happened? Excuse me, please. I

1080
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,640
think that was answered. Um, they made a

1081
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,720
capital contribution

1082
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,920
39 years ago when the tank was built of

1083
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,079
50%.

1084
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:55,359
>> How much percent? I just didn't hear

1085
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:57,119
you, Robert, cuz you never talk into

1086
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,480
your mic. No,

1087
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,400
>> I think Hank uh reiterated as he has in

1088
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,640
previous meetings that Bart College

1089
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,839
contributed 50% of the capital cost of

1090
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:12,720
construction because back then they were

1091
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,800
using the water a lot and that was part

1092
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,119
of the agreement is that they would pay

1093
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,280
for half of the cost of this storage

1094
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,000
tank. Um, they've been asked to

1095
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,960
contribute $400,000

1096
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,680
towards this rehabilitation

1097
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,359
of the tank and they will have to meet

1098
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,280
with their board and appropriate those

1099
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
monies and figure out how they're going

1100
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,599
to do it because they've already done

1101
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,359
conducted their budget for the year. So,

1102
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:43,440
they will need to figure out how to make

1103
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,520
whatever contribution they feel is

1104
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,240
appropriate. they could alternative

1105
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,240
alternatively just upgrade their

1106
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:53,280
facilities and not need to rely on us as

1107
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000
a backup. It has been a mutually

1108
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,560
beneficial arrangement from what I'm

1109
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040
told by the water department because we

1110
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,520
do receive a revenue based upon uh usage

1111
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,480
from bar

1112
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,240
>> and I to me that sounds beautiful but

1113
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,480
critical path would be understanding

1114
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,240
what bar's contributing before we close

1115
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,400
a public hearing and allocate funds

1116
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,680
towards those that are taxpayer funded.

1117
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,760
>> Okay, I understand that balance. That's

1118
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,119
a difficult uh balance to to uh make but

1119
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,280
I also don't want to wait. I think we

1120
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,680
also heard about waiting. So, so my

1121
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:39,920
question to you, Robert, is is who is communicating with Bard and how did we bring that to

1122
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,400
>> I think I've answered that that the

1123
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,880
request has been made at Bard and I made

1124
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,359
the request came out of my office

1125
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:51,920
$400,000 or 25% contribution and BART

1126
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,440
has said that they are meeting with

1127
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,640
their board to discuss um what

1128
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
contribution and it may not happen for

1129
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,839
weeks. we may not have here for a couple

1130
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:03,839
of months. I mean, I don't know the

1131
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:07,920
answer to um when we would hear back

1132
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,079
from Barn because I'm not uh privy to

1133
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,400
those things. I do know what the water

1134
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,079
department

1135
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,000
>> it sounds like that we that we need to

1136
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,920
repair a relationship with Bard if we

1137
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,000
don't if this is this is critical and

1138
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,680
that they're they're part of this this

1139
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,640
water tank

1140
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:36,240
>> and if if that's critical to them then we need to establish a relationship

1141
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,440
with them that that offers a solution

1142
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,319
>> we have in a time frame that works for our con constituents.

1143
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:46,240
>> Okay, Christina, we have a very good

1144
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,079
relationship with Barb College. They've

1145
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,000
offered to make a contribution and they

1146
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,240
need to go through the proper process

1147
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:56,880
like we do to allocate and so um that is

1148
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,400
what they are doing. We'll hear back

1149
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,000
from them. We've heard from the water

1150
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,599
department. Regardless of what that

1151
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,319
amount of contribution is, we need to

1152
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,880
move forward. Again, the resolutions in

1153
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,880
front of us have maximum numbers. They

1154
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,880
don't have minimum numbers associated

1155
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,440
with it. And so we're hearing that

1156
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,359
there's a timing issue. I don't want to

1157
00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:17,920
lose a year. As we've heard from other

1158
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,079
people in the audience, as time marches

1159
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,559
on, sometimes the costs march on. We

1160
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,240
have spent four years. Uh the water

1161
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,520
board has and we have in public meetings

1162
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,880
discussing this. And so I understand I

1163
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,960
too would prefer to have that number. I

1164
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,760
can assure you, but I don't want the

1165
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,760
people of the water district to have to

1166
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,079
wait. um and pay more in an ensuing year

1167
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:47,359
because we didn't have a contribution

1168
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:50,400
figure. We also don't have the the

1169
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,040
actual amount once we go out to bid, but

1170
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,160
yet here we are looking at and hopefully

1171
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,800
entertaining resolutions to move forward

1172
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,880
because we need to maintain the the

1173
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,480
tank. So

1174
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,599
>> I do want I do want to make sure we get

1175
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,440
all the public comments. Linda, please.

1176
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,520
You have a barred employee right sitting

1177
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,920
on the board. So why doesn't he become

1178
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680
the spokesperson?

1179
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,520
>> He's there every single day working.

1180
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:15,760
>> Yeah.

1181
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,280
>> Um if there's a matter involving my

1182
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,640
employer, I would recuse myself from

1183
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,200
that matter.

1184
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,160
>> Oh, okay.

1185
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,559
>> Yeah.

1186
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:24,800
>> Um and then we're going to take a couple more comments and then we're

1187
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,200
going to entertain. Go ahead. So, um I

1188
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,079
mean say we we you say, "Okay, let's

1189
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:33,760
move forward with bids." And then say

1190
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,440
you find out that Bard says, "You know

1191
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,760
what? We're going to we don't want to do

1192
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,400
400,000." And the bids come in more. Is

1193
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,359
there another public comment hearing

1194
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:46,079
before you vote to move ahead with this?

1195
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,720
>> This is only an authorization to allow

1196
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,839
us to possibly move forward so that we

1197
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:53,839
can develop the bids. go we can develop

1198
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,160
the specs go out the bid if we don't

1199
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,400
like the bids or we don't like where the

1200
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,119
money stands or if it exceeds the

1201
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,680
authorization and we have put those two

1202
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,480
figures that I've told you we do in

1203
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
every resolution then we can just reject

1204
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,839
them and we can go back and and do it

1205
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:12,960
again. Okay.

1206
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,000
>> Okay. So

1207
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,640
>> but you didn't answer my question. My

1208
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,680
question is once all of this

1209
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,920
information, how much Bard is paying,

1210
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,400
blah blah blah, will there be another

1211
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,520
period for the public to say, "Hey, we

1212
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,440
like this or we don't like this." Is

1213
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
there another like we could close this

1214
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,200
public comment period as long as there's

1215
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,400
another one when the facts come in. So,

1216
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,839
would there be will there be

1217
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:41,760
>> there? Yes, there will be because there

1218
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,920
are uh other um uh stages along the way

1219
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,640
where we have to award and so you can

1220
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,319
come back and say I don't think you

1221
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:51,680
should be awarding because you don't

1222
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,839
have enough funding the implications of

1223
00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:55,520
awarding. I don't think you should move

1224
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,839
forward. I think you should go and you

1225
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,000
should do a new tank. You can say all of

1226
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,960
those things but until we take these

1227
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680
steps we can't get

1228
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,800
>> one of those key data points. which I

1229
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,240
want to be assured that there is another

1230
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,640
period down the road before money is

1231
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,160
allocated in which [clears throat] the

1232
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,160
public can comment when there's more

1233
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,480
information that will happen. Yeah.

1234
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,839
>> No, I think that's a great point and

1235
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:24,000
that so so we understand what the total

1236
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,960
cost is because we've had consulting

1237
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,280
engineers estimate what the total cost

1238
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,640
of the situation is and the unknown is

1239
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,319
how much Bard is contributing which

1240
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,480
could be significant. So the question is

1241
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,640
should the should the public comment

1242
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,000
period be be closed

1243
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,319
and and Robert I'm looking at you for

1244
00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:46,559
affirmation like should the public

1245
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,000
comment be closed while this is while

1246
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,920
this is an open item

1247
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,280
>> and I think everyone is trying to

1248
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,880
understand what the what the metrics are

1249
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,960
of what that looks like. So

1250
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,920
>> So I I do think if you're asking me a

1251
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,000
question I do think it's important that

1252
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,760
we move forward. We're hearing from our

1253
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,640
waterboard that we move forward in part

1254
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,359
because we need to get perhaps the most

1255
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:12,000
important number which is going out to

1256
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,640
bid [clears throat]

1257
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,119
how much is somebody or a firm willing

1258
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:18,800
to conduct the work for. We can't answer

1259
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,920
your net question until we have the

1260
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,960
gross question.

1261
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,480
>> And what would be the benefit of closing

1262
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640
the public hearing tonight

1263
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,559
>> is that we don't we will not be

1264
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,800
authorizing them to go ahead and move

1265
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,520
forward. And so there'll be a delay. We

1266
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,599
don't know how long that delay will be.

1267
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:36,960
We don't know when we're going to hear

1268
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,400
back from Bart. We

1269
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,400
>> So they can't authorize until

1270
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,640
>> So we can't we can't move forward and

1271
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,599
get the information

1272
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:45,839
>> and and but but on the contrary, if we

1273
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,520
do close the public hearing tonight,

1274
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,880
then we restrict ourselves to

1275
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,960
>> we don't restrict ourselves to anything

1276
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,400
because we don't have to accept

1277
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,599
>> we don't have a time frame in which

1278
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:59,990
we're supposed to act.

1279
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,160
we don't close the public

1280
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,319
>> if if we close a public hearing tonight

1281
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:06,960
are are does that start a time clock in

1282
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,680
which the matter has to be closed

1283
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,160
>> uh you know it's I can only speak for

1284
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,400
myself it's my desire that we not only

1285
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,599
close the public hearing but we start to

1286
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:19,440
move forward with this project so we can

1287
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,839
get the information and then we can take

1288
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:22,800
a look once the

1289
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,240
>> No that's that's not my question my

1290
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,559
question is my question my question is

1291
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,040
if you if we If we choose to close the

1292
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,800
public hearing tonight without knowing

1293
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,680
what Bard is going to contribute, does

1294
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,319
that or does that not start a time clock

1295
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:37,839
in which the [clears throat] matter has

1296
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:39,839
to be closed?

1297
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:41,920
>> No, it does not. It's not like a zoning.

1298
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,359
matter.

1299
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:44,400
>> It's unlimited.

1300
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,520
>> Yeah, it's not.

1301
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,559
>> Good question.

1302
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,720
>> Okay. Um, anything else in the public

1303
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:51,440
hearing before?

1304
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,280
>> One quick question. Will you be getting

1305
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,440
estimates for a new tank and the

1306
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,520
refurbishing? We have already done that

1307
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,760
and I'm sorry I apologize. I know you're

1308
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
all asking uh these questions. Again, I

1309
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,319
just want to remind you this has been on

1310
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:06,559
the agenda for nearly four years. We

1311
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:10,880
have had broad discussions

1312
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,079
putting this out.

1313
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,640
>> Are you putting it out to bid for both?

1314
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,280
>> And we are not putting it out to both.

1315
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,760
>> We have had estimates. Uh did you want

1316
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,040
to address uh

1317
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,760
>> let me just let me just mention yeah

1318
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,720
>> um I bond put together an estimate

1319
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,559
>> cost for both approaches rehabbing and

1320
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:33,280
replacing.

1321
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:33,599
>> Yes.

1322
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,599
>> So we've had those numbers. Okay.

1323
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:36,079
>> Yes.

1324
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:38,160
>> Numbers for replacing just as good as

1325
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,960
the numbers for rehab. They're best

1326
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,440
guess educated guesses.

1327
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,400
>> So we've had numbers

1328
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,640
>> and sir. Yes. I I reviewed them, but but

1329
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,880
part of part of my issue is that if Bart

1330
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,760
isn't involved, then the tank would be

1331
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,760
smaller, then the circumstances would be

1332
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,280
different, then the engineering would

1333
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,640
shift. So, it's it's all kind of kind of

1334
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,400
one movement.

1335
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,920
>> That That's true. It's all tied

1336
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:04,880
together.

1337
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,079
>> The tank height is kind of determined by

1338
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,319
a pressure zone in the district that's

1339
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,880
outside of Bard. So, the height of the

1340
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,200
tank wouldn't matter. I suppose you

1341
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,160
could make an a narrower tank.

1342
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,480
>> Yes.

1343
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,520
>> Of some sort, but

1344
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,559
>> yes, our original plans back in the

1345
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:26,079
1980s were to have a tank the height of

1346
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:27,839
the current tanks but smaller in

1347
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:30,960
diameter. We could still do that if Bard

1348
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,119
did not join us. But that would that

1349
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,960
>> we estimated that tank too and it was

1350
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,400
still more quite a bit more money than

1351
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:46,079
uh paying the tank. I think Robert is correct that uh this is an

1352
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,119
authorization to proceed to the next

1353
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,440
step and if the next step is not

1354
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,799
appropriate we just have to change our

1355
00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:57,359
plans we would have to

1356
00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:01,200
decide probably to use this tank and run

1357
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,400
it into the ground and then replace it

1358
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,559
because the longer we wait the less

1359
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:10,000
feasible is the rehab approach.

1360
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,880
So, we want to proceed step by step and

1361
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,520
um I think that's where we are.

1362
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,960
>> Emily, uh

1363
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,720
>> I just have a question. you you've been

1364
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,799
saying and you've repeated it that you

1365
00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,720
have worked on this project for four

1366
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,319
years and it sounds like Robert you just

1367
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:28,799
contacted Fars last week and asked for

1368
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:32,960
400,000 like have they have that's the

1369
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,480
feeling I'm getting anyway because you

1370
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,920
it sounds like you sent a letter you're

1371
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,000
like hey they already finished their

1372
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,319
fiscal year so we're kind of hoping on

1373
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:43,359
Hail Mary here for 400k

1374
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:46,000
um I I'm it's I'm surprised that they

1375
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,520
wouldn't have said we are going to

1376
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,720
pledge x amount towards this project,

1377
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,240
especially if it's something that you

1378
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,640
all have been very concerned with for

1379
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,839
four years. Like has bar been contacted

1380
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:02,079
about this within the last four years or

1381
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:05,200
is it just been recently that they are

1382
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,359
on the

1383
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:10,640
>> I haven't had a specific plan. Okay. We

1384
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,920
knew we were going to have to do

1385
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,839
something but we hadn't really decided.

1386
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:18,000
We hadn't made a solid recommendation to

1387
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,480
the town board. They hadn't decided. It

1388
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,720
was last year that we decided we it's

1389
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,720
time to go and then it was time to talk

1390
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,839
to fire.

1391
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:28,799
>> So, it's been a little about a year that

1392
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:31,200
B has known that we need

1393
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,400
>> it's been it's more than that. As I

1394
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,359
said, um the water department only a few

1395
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:40,640
months ago um decided which approach

1396
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,359
that they thought would be better given

1397
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:46,720
and I think you all know this in Tivoli

1398
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,160
anticipation of other infrastructure

1399
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,720
expenses coming down the pike. They're

1400
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,799
looking to incorporate their thinking uh

1401
00:59:56,799 --> 00:59:59,520
with that distribution system that may

1402
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,200
need substantial [clears throat]

1403
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,680
uh repairs. But I I mean I'm trying but

1404
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,119
to Emily's point, I'm trying to

1405
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:06,799
understand why we're looking at

1406
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:08,720
four-year-old engineering and trying to

1407
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,400
make a decision before a meeting in two

1408
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,079
weeks and close a public hearing. Like

1409
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,240
let's My suggestion would be leave the

1410
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,240
public hearing open. Let's negotiate

1411
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,160
with Bard. Let's get all the information

1412
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,839
and then we'll make a decision in

1413
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:22,710
appropriate manner.

1414
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,040
Um, I'm just thinking that people don't

1415
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,520
understand the process of the bidding

1416
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,880
process and needing to have an

1417
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,200
authorization to go out to bids to

1418
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,119
understand how much money you have to

1419
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:34,720
spend. You have to know how much money

1420
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,319
you have to spend in order to ask for

1421
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:38,000
money.

1422
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,880
>> So,

1423
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,480
>> I think people don't quite understand

1424
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,520
that this is only an authorization to go

1425
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,119
out for bids.

1426
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,599
>> That's it. It's not to do the project.

1427
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,760
>> And it can be changed later. Yes, I can

1428
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,040
all change later.

1429
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,960
>> Yes, he's trying to pressure

1430
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,440
authorization.

1431
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,160
>> Authorization.

1432
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,720
>> This does not Yes. We have no We have no

1433
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,119
ability to move forward with rehabbing

1434
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:02,000
the tank until we take these steps. And

1435
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,599
I think we've heard from the water

1436
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,319
department. We need to take these steps

1437
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:08,559
regardless of whether Bard contributes a

1438
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,559
dollar or a million dollars. We need to

1439
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:12,880
go ahead and do that. how that affects

1440
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,440
the contract moving forward with BARD to

1441
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,480
provide water to them in a backup uh

1442
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,520
situation or not. Um obviously there'll

1443
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,200
be impact uh on on that. So there's not

1444
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,119
a contract uh renewal in front of us um

1445
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:32,160
to understand uh what the implication on

1446
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,559
their uh per gallon fees are. So, with

1447
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,280
that being said, if there are no other

1448
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,680
comments, I would like to make a motion

1449
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,520
to close the public hearing

1450
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,440
understanding your concerns about it.

1451
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,799
Christina, thank you for your

1452
01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:48,319
contribution

1453
01:01:48,319 --> 01:01:50,880
uh to that. Um, but also understanding

1454
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,799
the time constraints and the desire of

1455
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:54,640
the water department and that we have

1456
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,079
been discussing these alternatives for

1457
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,442
uh quite some time.

1458
01:02:00,442 --> 01:02:01,920
[snorts] So, who would like to make a

1459
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,480
motion to close the public hearing?

1460
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,920
Bill.

1461
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,280
>> Okay.

1462
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,839
>> I will second that motion. Is there

1463
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:11,520
further discussion?

1464
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,880
>> My vote is nay.

1465
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,440
>> Okay. All in favor? There's a nay. Jacob

1466
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:15,920
>> I.

1467
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,319
>> Myself.

1468
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:17,839
>> Jacob must concluse himself. He already

1469
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:18,799
said that earlier.

1470
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:20,400
>> Please.

1471
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,880
>> This is not a bar. This is not a bar

1472
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,760
related matter. Please don't interrupt.

1473
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,000
I generally I'm going to ask you to

1474
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,760
please not interrupt. we don't interrupt

1475
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,480
the meeting with Bill.

1476
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,280
>> Your vote.

1477
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,880
>> Thank you very much.

1478
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,520
>> Okay. Uh we have and I apologize for

1479
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,240
those of you waiting for the village of

1480
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,319
uh Tivoli, the amendment to the

1481
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:46,799
contract. Um Diana, would you be kind

1482
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:48,480
enough to read that public hearing

1483
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,230
notice?

1484
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,920
» Notice of public hearing. Town of Red

1485
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Hook. Please take notice that a

1486
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,799
concurrent public hearing will be held

1487
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:58,240
by the town board of the town of Red

1488
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,440
Hook on January 13th, 2026 at 7:40 p.m.

1489
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,920
local time at the town hall, 7340 South

1490
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,079
Broadway, Red Hook, New York to hear all

1491
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:07,839
interested persons regarding a proposed

1492
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:09,760
amendment to fire protection district

1493
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,920
fire service agreement between the town

1494
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,520
of Red Hook and the village of Tivoli

1495
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,640
for 2025 and 2026. Such agreement

1496
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,480
relates to the existing Red Hook Fire

1497
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Protection District embracing the

1498
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,160
territory outside the villages of Red

1499
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,079
Hook and Tivoli. All interested persons

1500
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:25,599
will be given an opportunity to be

1501
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:27,359
heard. All reasonable accommodations

1502
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:28,640
will be made for persons with

1503
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,160
disabilities. In such a case, please

1504
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,160
notify the town clerk. Please take

1505
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,920
notice, further notice that copies of

1506
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,440
said proposed agreement are available

1507
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,599
for review at the town hall, Red Hook,

1508
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:39,280
New York. By order, the town board of

1509
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,280
the town of Red Hook dated December 9th,

1510
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,359
2025. Deanna Cochran, town clerk, town

1511
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:44,480
of Red Hook.

1512
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,240
>> Very good. And the uh what the amendment

1513
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,200
is is to change the capital line of the

1514
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,760
Tivoli uh uh fire service agreement with

1515
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,880
the town um to 60,748.

1516
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:07,510
I'll get to that in a moment.

1517
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,680
Um we did in the budget initially have

1518
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,760
this as the tent in the tentative

1519
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,880
budget. We then, if you recall, uh,

1520
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,760
Jacob and Bill who were here, we then

1521
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,319
changed it to 53,000 and and put the,

1522
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:26,079
uh, additional 7,000 in the operations

1523
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:29,680
line because we assumed given the time

1524
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,640
frame that the village would not be

1525
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,359
going out to do borrowing until probably

1526
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:38,000
second quarter of 2026.

1527
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,039
Um, so that you would only have approval

1528
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:43,359
of debt associated with the half million

1529
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:46,400
dollars starting on on or about April.

1530
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,559
And it it looks like you're tracking at

1531
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,599
the very least April and maybe even late

1532
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,920
later for for your borrowing. You you

1533
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,280
have not yet gone out to to do bids yet.

1534
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,520
Um, from what I understand, but you're

1535
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,119
waiting, from what I understand, you're

1536
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:02,240
waiting for us.

1537
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,520
>> Yes. to change this contract so that

1538
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,200
your uh funders, your other funders um

1539
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,319
can see our commitment um in order to do

1540
01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:15,760
that. And so

1541
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,839
I will get there. I know I will get

1542
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:28,069
there.

1543
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,880
Okay. Um, at this time, and I'll get it

1544
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,480
up on the screen, I'd like to make a

1545
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,119
motion that we open uh that public

1546
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:38,079
hearing to make the amendment. We also

1547
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,559
would have to then approve a budget

1548
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,039
adjustment to take that 7,000 and put it

1549
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:45,440
back in the capital line so that their

1550
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,359
funding partners can see that we are

1551
01:05:47,359 --> 01:05:50,720
committing at that level uh ongoing. And

1552
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,480
then if for some reason you don't move

1553
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,720
forward with the project, you would

1554
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,520
still have the $60,000 in there. there's

1555
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,520
no shortage from what I understand of

1556
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,000
capital needs for the village civically

1557
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,160
fire department equipment and so on and

1558
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,200
so forth. Um moving forward you'll be

1559
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,240
able to use it for that for for 2026.

1560
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,440
It's a reimburseable amount folks. Um

1561
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,640
just so you know.

1562
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,039
Okay. Um and there it is. And I

1563
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:20,960
apologize. Motion to open the public

1564
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,799
hearing. Is there a second?

1565
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:23,760
>> Second.

1566
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,599
>> All in favor? Hi.

1567
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:28,079
>> All right. Thank you very much. Okay.

1568
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,480
Um, who would like to speak on this

1569
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,119
matter?

1570
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,839
>> Yeah, I would just go I'll go to the

1571
01:06:35,839 --> 01:06:36,799
mic. Okay. Go to the mic.

1572
01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:38,319
>> Bill, if you'd be kind enough to come to

1573
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:39,760
the mic and just state your name,

1574
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,510
please.

1575
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,359
» Bill Schilling, Deputy [snorts] Mayor

1576
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:48,799
Tiboli. And uh this

1577
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:51,520
is a very important piece of Tibble's

1578
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,880
ability to get a [clears throat] new

1579
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,079
firehouse and to serve the uh the town

1580
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:58,480
and the village. So uh it's very

1581
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,400
important that you guys are able to move

1582
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,319
this forward and I want to thank you on

1583
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:04,160
behalf of the village. Thank you very

1584
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:04,960
much.

1585
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,039
>> Thank you. I appreciate it. And uh as I

1586
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:11,520
say to the fire departments each year,

1587
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,319
this is the easy part. It's not always

1588
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:16,160
easy finding the money, but it's the

1589
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,240
easy part because you all answer the

1590
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,119
calls at 2:00 in the morning

1591
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:23,920
when most of us are asleep

1592
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,920
and doing

1593
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,160
what is really an incredible service for

1594
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,520
this community. Um, without local

1595
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,960
volunteer fire departments, the finances

1596
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,359
of your small municipality would look

1597
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:40,720
very different. So to all of you who

1598
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,760
serve, for all of you that help um in

1599
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,079
these efforts, [cough] getting grants,

1600
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:50,000
for um supporting the fire departments

1601
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,200
in any way. Thank you.

1602
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,200
Okay.

1603
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,440
Anyone else want to speak about it? I

1604
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,920
think you'll all join me and Oh, Sarah,

1605
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,039
thank you.

1606
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,200
>> Hey, Sarah [clears throat] Bowden. I'm

1607
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,559
also a village trustee in Tivoli. Um,

1608
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:08,720
and I want to thank you for um, bringing

1609
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,160
this matter before your board. Um, you

1610
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,079
know, you've you've said before, uh,

1611
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:16,159
that you, you know, it sounded like you

1612
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:17,279
didn't really want to go over some of

1613
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:18,960
the details of the previous project. But

1614
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,880
the thing about public meetings that is

1615
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,600
both a, you know, a tiresome thing, but

1616
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,279
also a really important thing is that

1617
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:26,799
because we serve the public and the

1618
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:28,000
public doesn't always come to every

1619
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,279
meeting or watch every meeting on

1620
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,880
campus, sometimes you have to go over

1621
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,279
some pretty obvious things. So, I'm just

1622
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:34,799
going to state for the record a couple

1623
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:37,359
things. So, um, I want to say the mayor

1624
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:38,799
would have been here, but she had to be

1625
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:40,652
away on family travel. Um,

1626
01:08:40,652 --> 01:08:41,920
[clears throat] so I'm bringing, you

1627
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,000
know, Emily's, uh, thanks as well as

1628
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,799
mine and the rest of the boards. Um, and

1629
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:48,880
I want to say, you know, the thing about

1630
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,759
Tibble's fire department that's special

1631
01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:53,920
is that our department is a is a

1632
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,600
municipal, it's a village fire

1633
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,679
department, which means that it's very

1634
01:08:57,679 --> 01:08:59,839
closely entwined with the village um,

1635
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:01,759
government. um compared to the Red Hook

1636
01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:03,600
Fire Company which is a private company.

1637
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,560
It's a different contract process. Um

1638
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,480
because of that it means that a lot of

1639
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:12,239
our fire company is supported or one

1640
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:13,839
might think it was supported because

1641
01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:15,759
it's a Tiboli fire company by the

1642
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:18,719
village of Tivoli. But our our fire

1643
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:20,080
department and maybe some of you will

1644
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,839
speak to this I don't know is very it's small but mighty, right? And it's

1645
01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:25,279
actually not very small. It's one of the

1646
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:28,799
largest and most vibrant in the area. Um

1647
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:31,199
and so it makes a lot of sense that the

1648
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,759
town is going to support through a

1649
01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:36,799
contract um um you know as you've as

1650
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:38,319
you've laid out here not just our

1651
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,560
expansion but also just the the fire

1652
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,239
service in general that's provided

1653
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,400
because it's provided way beyond the

1654
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,239
borders of the village of Tivi. So, I

1655
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:47,520
just want to point those things out

1656
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,880
because I think it's important to state

1657
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,880
it for the record. [snorts] And um I

1658
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,239
just want to say thank you to all the

1659
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,880
Tibet fire uh department volunteers that

1660
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,560
are here tonight and who aren't here

1661
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,960
tonight. Um and to Mark for his Mark

1662
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,600
Hildenbrand for his um leadership. U

1663
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:02,239
Thank you.

1664
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:06,709
>> Thank you, sir

1665
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:12,159
comments to this public hearing.

1666
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:16,239
Okay, very good. Um, at this time I

1667
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:19,840
would like to entertain a motion to

1668
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,640
close this public hearing.

1669
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,480
In fact, I'll make the motion. Is there

1670
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:25,520
a second?

1671
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,159
>> Second.

1672
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,640
>> Thank you, Bill. Any further discussion?

1673
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,640
If not, all in favor?

1674
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,080
>> I Thank you very much. Okay.

1675
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,960
>> Um, and I imagine we'll be back next

1676
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,920
year talking about the operating budget

1677
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,000
line because there's probably some needs

1678
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,440
there as well.

1679
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:46,159
Um, and probably talking about the RER

1680
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,719
Fire Department and their capital needs

1681
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:50,960
because there will be some needs there

1682
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,840
as well.

1683
01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:04,070
Okay. Uh, very good. Why don't we

1684
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,600
do we think we can uh take the water

1685
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,080
board action? Can we do that? Jump

1686
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,159
around the agenda a little bit, folks.

1687
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:14,640
Is that something we can let Hank go

1688
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,800
home at a reasonable hour? Would that be

1689
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,040
all right? Jump back to public comments

1690
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,880
after that.

1691
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,920
>> Sure.

1692
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,080
>> Is that okay?

1693
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,159
>> Okay. So, I would like to go ahead and

1694
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:44,149
uh go to agenda item number four.

1695
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:48,470
Okay,

1696
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,120
» this is a resolution. What number would

1697
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:55,430
that be on?

1698
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:58,480
» Number one.

1699
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,040
>> True.

1700
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,040
>> Capt.

1701
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,760
Um, approving.

1702
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:13,430
Sorry. Um

1703
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:18,870
the first resolution related to this

1704
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,679
is resolution order after public hearing

1705
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:23,280
approving the water facilities

1706
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,040
improvement project for the water

1707
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,640
district number one pursuant to section

1708
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,760
202B of the town law. Whereas the town

1709
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,719
board of the town of Red Hook,

1710
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:36,960
the county of Duchess on behalf of the

1711
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,159
water district requested that TB and and

1712
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,239
TMB engineering

1713
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,960
duly licensed in the state of New York

1714
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,520
prepare report. The report um dates back

1715
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:54,000
uh to 2022 and updated in 2023.

1716
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,239
There was a tank in inspection in 2024

1717
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:02,000
and a sediment removal project in 2024.

1718
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,480
And a further report update was made in

1719
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:07,600
March of 2025 describing the rehab

1720
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,920
project and providing an opinion of

1721
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,840
probable cost which is uh deemed to be

1722
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:18,630
approximately 1,672,600.

1723
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,520
Um the engineer uh completed such report

1724
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,280
and filed the same with the town board

1725
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,320
and the town board thereafter adopted an

1726
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,200
order describing in general the terms

1727
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,320
[snorts] of the proposed improvement of

1728
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,760
facilities specifying the estimated

1729
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,080
total cost thereof and stating that the

1730
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,920
town board would meet to hear all

1731
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,360
persons which we have today. Um, under

1732
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,760
seeker, we've deemed it a type two

1733
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,110
action

1734
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,760
and

1735
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,360
the town board and the town have

1736
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,120
complied in every respect with all

1737
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,880
applicable federal, state, and local

1738
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,840
laws under seeker comprising article 8

1739
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,960
of the environmental conservation law.

1740
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,960
Now therefore be resolved by the town

1741
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,880
board of the town of Red Hook on the

1742
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,120
basis of the information given at such

1743
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,040
hearing. It is hereby determined that it

1744
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,120
is in the public interest to improve the

1745
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,600
facilities of the district as here and

1746
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,600
above described and referred to at the

1747
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,960
estimated total cost of $1.672

1748
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,560
million.

1749
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,640
It is hereby ordered that the facilities

1750
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,159
of the district shall be so improved.

1751
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,239
Definite plans, specifications, and a

1752
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,400
careful estimate of the expense of the

1753
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,640
improvement are hereby directed to be

1754
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,280
prepared, and the attorneys for the town

1755
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,520
are hereby directed to assist in the

1756
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,760
preparation of a proposed contract and

1757
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,159
to submit the same to this town board

1758
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:44,960
for examination and approval.

1759
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,400
This resolution shall take place

1760
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,199
immediately.

1761
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:53,040
Um, who would like to move this

1762
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,760
resolution? Well, as the leaison to the

1763
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,280
water board, I would

1764
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,920
>> Okay, very good. Bill, um, who would

1765
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:00,880
like to second that?

1766
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,159
>> Well, could we talk about it for a

1767
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:04,159
second? So, just to

1768
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,239
>> just to understand what what the

1769
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:07,760
mechanics of what we're doing here,

1770
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,159
>> Christina, if I may, just and you you'll

1771
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:12,400
get this with the newly elected train.

1772
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,880
Um, it's a motion and then a second and

1773
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,719
then there's discussion in between the

1774
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,400
second and the and the vote.

1775
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:18,880
>> Okay.

1776
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,840
>> Thank you.

1777
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,719
>> No worries. Um,

1778
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:25,120
is there a second?

1779
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,840
>> Second.

1780
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,000
>> Thank you, [clears throat] Jacob. Okay.

1781
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,520
Um, now, uh, further discussion on the

1782
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,440
matter, Christina.

1783
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:39,280
>> So, so um, so this is a a 1.7,

1784
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,880
um,

1785
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,590
contract. We have 400,000

1786
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,719
and we're looking for a $1.3 million

1787
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:51,679
loan.

1788
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,360
I want to make sure that I I'm

1789
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,040
understanding correctly.

1790
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,600
>> That's that's uh in rough terms.

1791
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,880
>> In rough terms correctly.

1792
01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:59,840
>> Correctly. Yes.

1793
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,320
>> And then and then do we have do we have

1794
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,199
reserves if it's more than 1.7?

1795
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:09,440
>> The $400,000 is moved from the reserves

1796
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:12,800
and has been allocated and was uh so at

1797
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,679
a previous meeting um just a couple of

1798
01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:18,640
meetings ago. we appropriated uh those

1799
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,800
monies from the reserves. So that's how

1800
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,400
it gets down to $1.3 million.

1801
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,239
Um

1802
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:28,800
yeah, and so [snorts] once we develop

1803
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,360
the specs, we go out to bid, we get the

1804
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,480
amount of the project that um we will

1805
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,800
contract. At that point, we we should

1806
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,719
know hopefully from Bard College what

1807
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:41,840
their contribution is. But as far as

1808
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,520
assessing the water district, the budget

1809
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,000
has already been determined whether it's

1810
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,159
the fire district or the water district

1811
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:52,880
or the townwide taxes

1812
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:57,040
or a town uh village uh tax uh portion

1813
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,440
as well that has already been determined

1814
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:01,679
for 2026.

1815
01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:05,600
So when uh the finances are finalized on

1816
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:12,000
this project and a determination is made on how much will

1817
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,560
be an assessment versus how much will be

1818
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,880
recouped by the increase in the water

1819
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,040
rates that will be done for 2027.

1820
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,400
When you borrow in a particular year you

1821
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,320
don't actually make payments whether

1822
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,120
it's a bond anticipation note or a bond

1823
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,120
on the same year that you borrow. It's

1824
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,719
very different than when you get a

1825
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:34,400
mortgage for your house and you do that

1826
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,159
in in a month. [clears throat] You

1827
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:38,480
borrow, it's a 12 month bond

1828
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:42,159
anticipation note or a multi-year bond,

1829
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,320
serial bonds, and you pay the following

1830
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,960
year. So, we will know all the numbers.

1831
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,800
>> Well, I I no that I mean to me that's

1832
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,400
understood. I actually do this every

1833
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,719
day. So, this is the engineers probable

1834
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:57,040
cost. So, their total came out at 1.2

1835
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,560
1.207.

1836
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,640
they added a a 20% contingency which is

1837
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,280
reasonable for construction costs. So

1838
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:10,480
that came out at at 1.449

1839
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:13,040
and [snorts] then on top of that we had

1840
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,560
we have soft costs engineering costs

1841
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,560
>> and that's getting us to 1.7.

1842
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:29,990
>> That's correct.

1843
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,320
Yeah. [snorts]

1844
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,840
>> Any anything more? Any others? Any

1845
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,719
additional discussion? Okay.

1846
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:42,080
>> If not, I would like to uh have a roll

1847
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,280
call on the vote, please. Um, all in

1848
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,560
favor? Kenny.

1849
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,040
>> I.

1850
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:47,440
>> William.

1851
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:47,920
>> Hi.

1852
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:48,880
>> Myself. I.

1853
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,360
>> Jacob.

1854
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,920
>> Hi.

1855
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,960
>> Christina. Thank you very much.

1856
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,880
>> Uh we have the uh followup uh resolution

1857
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:03,030
to that

1858
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:08,080
which would be resolution number two

1859
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,679
authorizing the increase

1860
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:13,199
and improvement of water district

1861
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,199
facilities for water district number one

1862
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,800
at an estimated maximum cost 1.672 672

1863
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,400
million with the uh a borrowing uh

1864
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,960
aggregate principal amount not to exceed

1865
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,350
1.272,600

1866
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,920
and um this is the bond authorization

1867
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,199
resolution. Who would like to move this

1868
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:40,400
number two of 2026

1869
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,800
>> as the lead to the water district? I

1870
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,000
will move this to you.

1871
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,320
>> Okay. And I'd be happy to second it. And

1872
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,920
I want to thank you all on the water

1873
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,560
board for the folks at home. Um we have

1874
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,960
a lot of dedicated volunteers and a lot

1875
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,199
of committees and they really make

1876
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,760
things happen for this community. We are

1877
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,840
very fortunate. We have a lot of people

1878
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,000
with a lot of expertise on our water

1879
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,880
board. I think it's really unusual their

1880
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,000
background. if you knew what they did um

1881
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,400
for a living and their their history and

1882
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:15,920
their expertise, you really benefit from that even when it's a difficult

1883
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,640
weighing of the rehab versus replace. Um

1884
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,800
and if anybody has that crystal ball,

1885
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,480
please let us know. We'd like to borrow

1886
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,040
it. Um

1887
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,520
all right,

1888
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,560
we have a motion and a second. Is there

1889
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,120
any uh discussion further discussion on

1890
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,600
that resolution number two? If not, it's

1891
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,600
a bond resolution like that. A roll

1892
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,560
call. Uh all in favor of Kenny

1893
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,679
>> I.

1894
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:44,560
>> William.

1895
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,000
>> Myself. I Jacob.

1896
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:46,480
>> Hi.

1897
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:47,280
>> Christina.

1898
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:47,679
>> I.

1899
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:50,320
>> Thank you very much.

1900
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,320
Okay. And thank you all. Is Tiffy still

1901
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,120
here that they were?

1902
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,320
>> Yeah, we're all here.

1903
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:02,229
>> You're welcome. The bill is left.

1904
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:04,640
» Okay. Well, look, can we quickly do that

1905
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,480
so that the fire department I already

1906
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:08,960
heard a little bit of something there.

1907
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,280
Um, can we do that quickly and let's get

1908
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,560
to public comments. I also don't want

1909
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,800
the public to have to wait um much

1910
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,760
longer, but we do have resolution

1911
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,239
number can we call it three on the fire

1912
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:22,960
department, please? And folks, I want to

1913
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,239
just um ask you to please, you'll notice

1914
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,280
in your packet there is that $7,000.

1915
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Now, that needs to move back from

1916
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,679
operating to capital

1917
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:37,040
um so that we can show their funding

1918
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,199
partners that the capital line is

1919
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,679
60,748.

1920
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,719
Could I ask you to please entertain that

1921
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:47,600
uh budget approval, please?

1922
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,560
>> Are you making a motion?

1923
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,560
>> I'm making a motion, please. Is there a

1924
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,600
second? Second.

1925
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,219
>> Thank you, Jacob. Um, any

1926
01:21:53,219 --> 01:21:55,040
[clears throat] discussion? If not, all

1927
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,159
in favor?

1928
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:00,639
>> I thank you very much. Okay. Resolution

1929
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:02,960
number three, approving amendment number

1930
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,199
one to the town of Redook Fire

1931
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:06,960
Protection District Fire Service

1932
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,040
Agreement between the town of Red and

1933
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,760
the V Village village of Tivoli for 2025

1934
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,639
and 2026.

1935
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:16,639
Whereas proposed terms of an amendment

1936
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:18,800
entitled Town of Red Fire Protection

1937
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,639
District amendment number one to the

1938
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:22,880
fire service agreement. We do two-year

1939
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,920
fire agreements by the way. We contract

1940
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,960
for fire services the town. Um this is

1941
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,520
the second year 2026.

1942
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,920
Um the town of Red Hook Fire Protection

1943
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,000
District amendment one to the fire

1944
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,159
service agreement village of Tivoli. A

1945
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:40,159
public hearing has been duly called and

1946
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:42,719
held this evening. The amendment between

1947
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:44,159
the town of Reik and the village of

1948
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:46,719
Tivoli regarding the fire ser service

1949
01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:49,679
agreement for 2025 and six for fire

1950
01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:52,560
protection is hereby approved. That's

1951
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,590
what the resolution says.

1952
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:03,430
Can I move this one? Would you mind?

1953
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:05,760
Is there a second? Who would like to to

1954
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,239
second this? Anybody who's had the need

1955
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,719
of the Tivoli Fire Department in the

1956
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:13,120
last 5 [clears throat] years, would he

1957
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,707
or she like to solot?

1958
01:23:17,707 --> 01:23:18,320
[clears throat]

1959
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,960
>> Okay.

1960
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,080
>> I think you'll find a lot of us have had

1961
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,719
the need of one fire department or

1962
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:29,280
another in this community. and you don't

1963
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,840
know, you will find out who these

1964
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,800
dedicated volunteers are when you do

1965
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,920
have a situation and they are there for

1966
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,000
you uh day in and day out leaving their

1967
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,719
jobs in order to come to do their

1968
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,719
volunteer.

1969
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:49,520
With that being said and with uh endless

1970
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,040
gratitude

1971
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,719
a vote, I think there's a motion.

1972
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:54,239
There's a second by Kenny. Thank you,

1973
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:57,120
Kenny. Any further discussion? If not,

1974
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,639
all in favor? William,

1975
01:23:58,639 --> 01:23:59,600
>> hi

1976
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,159
>> Jacob.

1977
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:01,280
>> Hi.

1978
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,320
>> Three of us eyes. Yes. Christina,

1979
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,400
>> Robert, and Kenny, thank you very much.

1980
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,120
And thank you all.

1981
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,159
>> You fingers crossed.

1982
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:13,520
>> Fingers crossed. We'll be doing the

1983
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,120
paper next month.

1984
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,719
>> Yeah, next month. We'll see what that

1985
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:19,120
comes in and you'll let us know. Yep.

1986
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,960
>> You keep us informed. Okay. Thank you

1987
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,199
very much again. That's the easiest

1988
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:23,520
part.

1989
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,800
>> Thanks for getting us out of here.

1990
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,639
>> All right.

1991
01:24:26,639 --> 01:24:28,320
Thanks guys.

1992
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,719
Water department. Thank you.

1993
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:33,040
>> All right. We have a very patient

1994
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,320
highway superintendent.

1995
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,360
>> But we do need to do what?

1996
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,920
>> We need to do public comments though. Um

1997
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,840
Teresa, if you can hang in, you'll be

1998
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,679
next.

1999
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:48,800
>> I know.

2000
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,960
>> It's a loose loose. Uh folks, um we have

2001
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,040
15 minutes for public comment tonight.

2002
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,679
We still have uh a few items to get to.

2003
01:24:57,679 --> 01:24:59,233
Is there somebody who would like to

2004
01:24:59,233 --> 01:25:01,280
[snorts] speak for public comment?

2005
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,520
>> Okay. Roxan, if you'd be kind enough to

2006
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,280
just say your name for the record,

2007
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,440
please. As always.

2008
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:11,120
>> Roxan Fischer from Barrytown, New York.

2009
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,080
First, I want to extend a warm welcome

2010
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,400
to our new council members, Christina

2011
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,000
and Ken. You both ran on platforms

2012
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,960
opposing the use of eminent domain

2013
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,280
against the Red Hook Boat Club,

2014
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,360
emphasizing the need for greater

2015
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,199
transparency and genuine dialogue to the

2016
01:25:31,199 --> 01:25:34,159
community. Your election reflects the

2017
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:37,440
clear voice of the voters on this issue

2018
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,239
and many of us are hopeful that your

2019
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:42,719
presence on the board will bring fresh

2020
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:45,920
perspective, accountability, and a

2021
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,800
commitment to listening to residents.

2022
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,679
Second, I want to inform everyone here

2023
01:25:51,679 --> 01:25:54,880
in the room and those watching on Zoom

2024
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,480
that on January 6th, 2026,

2025
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:02,239
I filed a third supplemental submission

2026
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:05,040
to my ongoing complaint with the New

2027
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,840
York State Controllers Office regarding

2028
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,560
fiscal concerns in the town's eminent

2029
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,199
domain proceedings against the boat club

2030
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:14,719
property.

2031
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:18,239
This update highlights expenditures

2032
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:21,360
approaching a4 billion dollars with no

2033
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,199
results, improper use of the B fund to

2034
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:27,920
shift the tax burden, and the complete

2035
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,040
absence of any funding details for the

2036
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,280
1.25 million plus project which should

2037
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,120
have incur been included in the 2026

2038
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,840
budget. The controllers's office is

2039
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,560
already reviewing this matter and costs

2040
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,760
continue to rise amid a growing docket

2041
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,239
of pending litigation.

2042
01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:53,679
Finally, a reminder to the board. The

2043
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:56,320
original eminent domain resolution

2044
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,840
passed on a 3-2 vote. Any member who

2045
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,280
voted yes can still move to resin that

2046
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,560
vote. Doing so would immediately halt

2047
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,840
this extremely expensive process and end

2048
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,760
the wasteful drain on taxpayer money.

2049
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,800
that could be better spent on true

2050
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,679
community priorities. I hope the board

2051
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:22,719
will choose fiscal responsibility and

2052
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:25,120
the unity of the community moving

2053
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,120
forward. Thank you for your time.

2054
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,800
>> Thank you.

2055
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,560
Roxan.

2056
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,000
Yeah, it might do

2057
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,239
toward a new water tank 100%.

2058
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:34,960
>> Yeah.

2059
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,760
>> Hi, Carrie Kitner, Merrytown, New York.

2060
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,040
Um, I also want to welcome Kenny and

2061
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,520
Christina and

2062
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,520
uh the main thing I wanted to say was

2063
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,520
that it was so nice to actually have a

2064
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,920
conversation. Um, I got a a email from

2065
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,560
Christopher Man about that meeting next

2066
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,600
Wednesday and it was like, "Oh, you can

2067
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,159
come and ask questions and people will

2068
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:03,199
give you answers." And I'm going to just

2069
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:04,880
say it every time I come to these

2070
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,880
meetings, I say, "Can we please have a

2071
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:12,560
forum about the boat club?" Okay? like we would love to have that same

2072
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,840
kind of questions and answers

2073
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,920
um for a topic that's like been roing in

2074
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,199
this community. So that's my request.

2075
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,600
Maybe our two new members could push

2076
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,800
towards having a forum. We had a public

2077
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,719
comment period in which supposedly we

2078
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:35,600
were listened to, but uh what we said

2079
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,600
didn't seem to move any of the board

2080
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,760
members. Well, none of two of them

2081
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,800
silently said no, but it was silently.

2082
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,239
And I just really appreciate if

2083
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:51,040
Christina is speaking up tonight because

2084
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,120
um you know, I think these water guys

2085
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,040
know what they're doing, but it's really

2086
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,719
nice to be able to ask questions and

2087
01:28:56,719 --> 01:28:58,960
really understand what's happening. As a

2088
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,400
citizen, I I really like to understand.

2089
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,760
Um, and in that on that note,

2090
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,040
um, you closed the public comment period

2091
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,600
on the water tank thing and then there

2092
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,360
were two motions and the first motion

2093
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,960
seemed to be to move forward with

2094
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,679
bidding, but the second motion seemed to

2095
01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:23,360
be to approve the bond as long as it

2096
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,199
didn't go over this certain amount. So,

2097
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,639
I had asked earlier if the bids came in

2098
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:32,159
whether there would be another public

2099
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:34,320
comment period, but it sounds like if

2100
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,880
the bids come in

2101
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,760
below this maximum amount, then you're

2102
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,760
just moving ahead with that. That's a

2103
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,520
question and I'd really like an answer

2104
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,280
right now on that.

2105
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,400
>> Okay, Cara, we need to get Don't answer

2106
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,760
questions. I'm going to give you an

2107
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:50,880
answer.

2108
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,960
Just like

2109
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,120
we told the folks in the newly created

2110
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,520
TND sewer district that we would not

2111
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,679
move forward until we got some grant

2112
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:02,719
funding, we have told you that we will

2113
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:05,280
not move forward with the water tank

2114
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,159
till we get those other two key

2115
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:10,719
questions. What what is the acceptable

2116
01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:13,600
bit and what if any contribution will be

2117
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,639
coming from Mark Holl? So, but we had to

2118
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:20,080
do a bond resolution

2119
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,880
for the TND sewer district a couple of

2120
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,920
years ago in order to move forward so

2121
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,840
that we could apply for grants and so on

2122
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,000
and so forth. So we have those grants

2123
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,960
because we approve the authorization and

2124
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,719
again I think somebody in the audience

2125
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:37,520
said it well until you get authorization

2126
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,320
to begin the process you can't ever

2127
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,320
>> but wasn't that the first resolution was

2128
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,800
to authorize to begin the process. The

2129
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,520
second thing of approving the bond,

2130
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,239
>> we do have to approve. We would never go

2131
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:54,960
ahead and expend substantial funds to

2132
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,920
develop specs if we

2133
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,760
>> Okay. So, it's not the full amount of

2134
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,679
the money that you're approving. It's

2135
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:04,719
the amount of money to find out how much

2136
01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:05,280
it's

2137
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,040
>> and Carrie and my objection to closing

2138
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,960
the public hearing was that it it's not

2139
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,120
that I disagree that the total amount is

2140
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,719
going to be what it is. I just think

2141
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:15,600
that there needs to be public input and

2142
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,480
how do we get to that place? It's going

2143
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,520
to cost what it costs and my my personal

2144
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,080
opinion is I I do agree with the total

2145
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,280
number,

2146
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,880
>> but we're in a negotiation with the

2147
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,280
village and

2148
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,520
>> with Bard and so who's going to pay for

2149
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,679
this? And I think that the public is

2150
01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:37,440
part of that process. And that was my

2151
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:39,360
objection to closing the public hearing,

2152
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,679
right? Not to agreeing to the to the

2153
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:44,080
final amount of of what that looks like.

2154
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,000
>> And as long as there'll be more public

2155
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,280
comment, no matter what the bids come in

2156
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,320
at, then I'm going to just go sit down

2157
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,080
>> and and hope that we can have a forum

2158
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,400
that questions are answered on this

2159
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,639
really divisive topic of the book club.

2160
01:32:02,639 --> 01:32:04,639
So putting another

2161
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:06,639
>> any anybody else like to make public

2162
01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:08,320
comments. We have about eight more

2163
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,840
minutes for public comments.

2164
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,159
>> I'm going to be very quick. Susan

2165
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:15,199
Quasha, Darytown, New York. And I just

2166
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:19,679
want to say that this is 2026 now. And

2167
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:23,520
I'm really hoping that you will all

2168
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,560
follow good governance, which means

2169
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,880
being clear about things, understanding

2170
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,880
them, letting the public understand

2171
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,840
them, and that there is less

2172
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,320
divisiveness and more bringing everybody

2173
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,719
together. That's what good governance

2174
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:39,280
is.

2175
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,480
>> Thank you, sir.

2176
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:42,480
>> Thank you.

2177
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:44,960
>> We have time for another another speaker

2178
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:45,920
or two.

2179
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,800
>> Lisa Polo, town of Red Hook. Uh, Robert

2180
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,120
McKeon continues to assert without

2181
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,360
evidence that the eminent domain action

2182
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,600
has widespread support and Jacob, you

2183
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,239
concurred with that on July 15th and

2184
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,239
also stated that the opposition would be

2185
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:02,960
a short-term discomfort. Almost a

2186
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,480
quarter of a million dollars has been

2187
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,719
spent through October. That's not a mere

2188
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:08,800
discomfort. We don't yet have the

2189
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,960
invoices for November and December in

2190
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,239
which there were continued court

2191
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:14,239
hearings in an attempt to circumvent the

2192
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,719
court ruling with new zoning laws. In

2193
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:18,320
December, we received the letter from

2194
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,239
the supervisor warning of fiscal

2195
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:22,639
challenges on the horizon. And tonight's

2196
01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:24,480
board packet includes the amendment for

2197
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:26,320
the Tiboly fire service agreement

2198
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,800
discussion on rising health care costs

2199
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,639
and the notification that the town's

2200
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:32,480
grant application for the Red Hook Trail

2201
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:35,040
Link was not selected for funding. Um,

2202
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,960
and yesterday the Daily Catch reported

2203
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,199
on the Red Hook Fire Chief and the

2204
01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:40,880
financial challenges facing the

2205
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,960
department. If you were to open those

2206
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,560
window shades in the back, you'd see

2207
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,320
across the street the graphic showing

2208
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,880
the amount spent so far. An amount that

2209
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,719
could have been used for any of those

2210
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:54,560
real needs that I mentioned, not wants.

2211
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,560
But the closed shades are symbolic

2212
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,639
because like your eyes and ears, if you

2213
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:00,560
don't open them, you don't have to face

2214
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,440
the truth. The fees will acrew at a

2215
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:05,280
similar pace this year. And for those

2216
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,360
interested, go online and search for Red

2217
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,760
Hook Boat Club versus Town of Red Hook

2218
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,800
and find the link to PACE monitor. That

2219
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,040
provides a publicly available summary of

2220
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,800
the most recent federal court

2221
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,639
proceedings. And you'll see that there

2222
01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:20,880
are motions, depositions, discovery, and

2223
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,120
conferences scheduled through July of

2224
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,040
2026. At minimum, seven more months of

2225
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,760
unnecessary wasteful spending. What will

2226
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,320
the total be by then? This level of

2227
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,600
discomfort far exceeds short-term. Ken

2228
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,000
and Christina, involve yourselves in the

2229
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,760
planning and conversations with the

2230
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,760
attorneys. Don't allow one person to

2231
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,280
call the shots and make binding,

2232
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,840
expensive decisions. Ask the questions

2233
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,159
we cannot get answered. Request and

2234
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:49,840
review the legal proceedings to learn

2235
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,600
what has been proposed and what has been

2236
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,600
declined. And I think you'll learn a

2237
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,560
great deal. Each January presents an

2238
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,719
opportunity to reflect, recalibrate, and

2239
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:01,600
if necessary, redirect. We began that

2240
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,360
process with the swearing in of two new

2241
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,920
board members. Bill and Jacob, you both

2242
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,159
have an opportunity to rewrite your part

2243
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:11,520
in what is arguably the most unpopular

2244
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,480
and now most fiscally wasteful decision

2245
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:17,199
ever made by three people but impacting

2246
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,000
so many. Either of you can move to resin

2247
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,920
the eminent domain action and if you do,

2248
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,080
you will have the votes to pass it.

2249
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,080
Every additional dollar spent on legal

2250
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,120
fees is now your choice to prolong this

2251
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,760
mess. So, please re-evaluate and

2252
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,400
redirect the taxpayer dollars to the

2253
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,159
more critical issues that have come up

2254
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:38,080
tonight. And it's time for you to open

2255
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:44,406
the shades and confront the truth.

2256
01:35:44,416 --> 01:35:49,990
[applause]

2257
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,679
We'll take one more speaker, Linda

2258
01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:52,400
Stoddard.

2259
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:53,520
>> Linda Stoddard.

2260
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,400
>> Thank you, Linda.

2261
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,440
>> I Robert, I just have a question about

2262
01:35:57,440 --> 01:35:58,000
um

2263
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,480
>> Linda, we Yeah. Go ahead. Make your

2264
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:02,560
remarks. We have to get to our agenda

2265
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,199
items tonight. [cough]

2266
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:06,800
>> Don't let her speak.

2267
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,480
>> Yeah. Um I'm wondering when you do reorg

2268
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:16,560
are you going to be um redistributing or

2269
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,199
reassigning liaison

2270
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:21,600
because there are five board members and

2271
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,040
right now there is a great imbalance

2272
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,760
um on the liaison

2273
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,719
and a majority of the liaison of the

2274
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:32,960
committees is you and it should be

2275
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,040
distributed equally amongst the board.

2276
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,880
So, I was just wondering if that's going

2277
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,800
to be done in New York.

2278
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,520
>> Thank you, Linda. Yes, that's all all of

2279
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,000
the ones that were previously Christine

2280
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,760
or Julia have been whited out so that we

2281
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,480
>> Okay. But even with them, you are still

2282
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:53,840
the liaison for more than anybody else.

2283
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,159
>> Thank you for your your thoughts on

2284
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:56,400
that.

2285
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,520
>> And that's not the way it's supposed to

2286
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,400
be.

2287
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,760
>> Okay. Uh, anybody else? If not, okay.

2288
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,080
Uh, we're going to move on to our next

2289
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:06,719
item.

2290
01:37:06,719 --> 01:37:08,080
>> I do think we should open a window

2291
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,679
shades. It's actually been bothering me

2292
01:37:09,679 --> 01:37:12,000
cuz it's like

2293
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:17,990
>> traffic moving forward and distractions.

2294
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,760
» We need to we need to get on with our

2295
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,400
meeting. All right. Um, let's please go

2296
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,440
to the highway uh department issues. Uh,

2297
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,520
Teresa has been very patient not only

2298
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,320
this meeting but the previous meetings.

2299
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,400
Um

2300
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:41,910
>> there we are.

2301
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:48,229
» Number item number three.

2302
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:52,950
» Oh yeah.

2303
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:57,830
I'm going to start marking the stage.

2304
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,510
33.

2305
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,520
» Yeah.

2306
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,639
>> All right. Uh folks, so we have the 284

2307
01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:09,679
agreement. Um for the folks at home,

2308
01:38:09,679 --> 01:38:13,360
each year uh or previous to the year,

2309
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,400
the highway superintendent proposes

2310
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,360
roads for capital improvements, which

2311
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,480
are to be repaved. what material is

2312
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:24,719
going to be used, whether or not it's

2313
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:28,400
asphalt or whether or not um it's chip

2314
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,480
sealed. Um you should know

2315
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:36,400
um that the roads that are proposed for

2316
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,440
this year 2026

2317
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:45,910
are Starbar for paving, Bosper,

2318
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:50,880
and uh Chipsilio for uh the Tivoli area.

2319
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,159
Stony Brook Road, Middle Road down here,

2320
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:57,679
Sankst Stack and Kid Lane,

2321
01:38:57,679 --> 01:38:59,920
and the chip ceiling is to preserve the

2322
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:06,880
roads to get uh longevity out of them. And so the

2323
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,440
budget uh this conforms with what we

2324
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:12,560
have budgeted for 2026. Estimated cost

2325
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,480
for Starbucks and Vosberg is 320,000.

2326
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:20,320
Um for the chip ceiling project

2327
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,320
um

2328
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:32,310
2026 budget is $90,000.

2329
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,199
There's currently a balance of 82,000 in

2330
01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:38,239
the 25 chips fund which will roll over

2331
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:41,440
to the calendar year. We don't find out

2332
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:45,199
um funding until the state's budget is

2333
01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:47,280
passed. Most of the funding that goes

2334
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,920
towards these capital improvements comes

2335
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,000
from the state. Okay. Um, any questions

2336
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,600
on which roads, the amounts,

2337
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,760
uh, anything or

2338
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,440
>> I don't have any issues with it. I don't

2339
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:05,600
have any issues with it. It as long as

2340
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,760
it confirmed conforms with the budget.

2341
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,040
I'm I'm interested though in in how in

2342
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,199
terms of like what like what that

2343
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:21,440
overall plan looks like. Um I'm sure you have metrics and how you figure um

2344
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:24,639
and so the first thing to understand is

2345
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:27,360
this agreement. It's a living document.

2346
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:32,639
So um we are asked to designate which

2347
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:35,360
roads based on our observations before

2348
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:40,000
the winter um we would like to pave. Uh

2349
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,719
many things can change in between. So

2350
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:45,679
once we sign this 284 agreement, if we

2351
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:48,159
find that there are roads that need more

2352
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:50,400
attention or if something, [cough]

2353
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,960
you know, catastrophic happens,

2354
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,560
>> and what time of year, like what time of

2355
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,400
year do you do you [snorts] look at it

2356
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,040
versus

2357
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,199
>> So we look at it all year and we keep a

2358
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:02,320
record of how old the roads are, when

2359
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,960
they were last paved. Um there's two

2360
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,520
parts to this. The resurfacing is the

2361
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,280
major expenditure and then the uh um

2362
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,560
chip seal is the maintenance part of it.

2363
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,880
So you want to chip seal your good roads

2364
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,440
within 5 years of paving to keep them

2365
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:21,679
good. It extends the life past the

2366
01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:23,840
average 15 years. If you do it every so

2367
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,320
often, it's a lot less expensive. And

2368
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,360
then you take the bulk of the um ship's

2369
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:34,239
money and put it into major repair. So,

2370
01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:36,560
this is kind of a guess

2371
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,119
>> because we don't know what roads will

2372
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:41,840
look like after what type of winter we

2373
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,760
may have. There may be a flooding issue

2374
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,400
and one of the roads gets blown apart.

2375
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,400
So, we come back and say, "Okay, we

2376
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,679
can't spend the money on this road

2377
01:41:53,679 --> 01:41:55,280
because we have to spend on that road."

2378
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,440
It's an amendment to this document. It

2379
01:41:57,440 --> 01:41:59,600
comes back to the town board. We put the

2380
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,440
reasons in there and then we ask for the

2381
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:04,800
expenditure again. Same point, the state

2382
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,400
doesn't pass its budget till April. So,

2383
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,960
we don't know until we go out to bid for

2384
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,960
these roads and the state passes its

2385
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,920
budget if it's all going to fit. So, we

2386
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,880
may have to dial back or we may get more

2387
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,800
money from the state if we go up and

2388
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,520
lobby for it and then we can add. So,

2389
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,440
it's a living document. It's sort of

2390
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:27,679
this is what we plan on doing. If

2391
01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:29,119
everything works out, this is what we

2392
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:31,920
will do. Um, but if it doesn't, we'll

2393
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,440
let you know ahead of time and it has to

2394
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:36,400
come to a town board meeting again.

2395
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:37,119
>> Thank you.

2396
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:39,840
>> Seems to be a recurring theme about we

2397
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,280
have estimates we need to authorize to

2398
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,920
move forward. We then finalize the

2399
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,960
amounts and then we can go ahead with

2400
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,719
>> we'll go out to big for the contracts

2401
01:42:50,719 --> 01:42:52,239
and bring them back to the board for

2402
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:52,880
approval.

2403
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:54,000
>> Yeah.

2404
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,159
>> Right. I'm And so there's no sort of

2405
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:59,679
like master document of all town roads

2406
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:01,760
and you're grading them a through

2407
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:02,480
whatever.

2408
01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:05,440
>> Well, we we do, but anything can change

2409
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:06,400
at any time.

2410
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,080
>> Sure. And the winner the winner comes

2411
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,159
through and then it's all it's all

2412
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:10,639
changes.

2413
01:43:10,639 --> 01:43:11,920
>> You just never know. Yeah,

2414
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,440
>> you never know. But we have um each road

2415
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:18,400
is uh supposed to have a 15-year life

2416
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,400
before resurfacing.

2417
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,360
um we don't have the budget to do that

2418
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,920
on a regular basis. So we choose the

2419
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,119
best roads that we think the worst roads

2420
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:31,199
that we think will benefit

2421
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:33,600
>> highly traveled roads over lower

2422
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,679
traveled roads. It's all [snorts] kind

2423
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:37,679
of put all the information in and see

2424
01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:39,760
what comes out at the end. So this is

2425
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,320
what we propose for this year. Um and

2426
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,719
again it can change depending on funding

2427
01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:47,520
and road conditions after the winter.

2428
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,800
>> Thank you. I I appreciate the

2429
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,199
explanation. You're welcome.

2430
01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:53,040
>> Thanks, Teresa. Any uh further

2431
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,760
questions, the board members?

2432
01:43:55,760 --> 01:44:03,990
Okay. Um I'd like to make a motion. Um

2433
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,520
to approve the 2026 284 agreement for

2434
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,320
highway expenditures.

2435
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,199
>> So moved.

2436
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:14,800
>> Well, I have the two copies.

2437
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,920
>> Yeah. Um,

2438
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:19,440
>> Christina, would you be the second to

2439
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:20,480
that motion?

2440
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:21,199
>> Okay.

2441
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:24,239
>> Uh, any further discussion? If not, all

2442
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:26,320
in favor?

2443
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,880
>> Thank you very much.

2444
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:29,840
>> Okay.

2445
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,080
>> So, Diana has the copies and they're

2446
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,920
signed at the meeting and then at the

2447
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:38,070
end I'll sign them.

2448
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,719
» Thanks. We'll we'll tackle that. Um,

2449
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:44,159
next up is the electric van. Um the

2450
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,320
highway department has requested a

2451
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:50,480
replacement of the how old van 20

2452
01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:54,400
40 22 years something like that two

2453
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:58,639
decade old van right Teresa um

2454
01:44:58,639 --> 01:45:00,560
>> they had it written in the document it's

2455
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:01,440
pretty old

2456
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:02,960
>> yeah

2457
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,480
um

2458
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:07,840
we are uh it's it's been

2459
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,440
>> it's a 2008 van

2460
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:12,800
>> 2008 okay so almost two decades old um

2461
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,360
it's a cargo van to move equipment when

2462
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,560
they go and do uh work on the roads. Um

2463
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,840
it has been the desire of uh at least

2464
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,119
the previous board for all vehicles when

2465
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,600
possible to be electric for both

2466
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,400
environmental and for uh financial

2467
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,239
sustainability.

2468
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:36,480
Um there's uh very little maintenance on

2469
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:38,800
electric vehicles

2470
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,520
and we have the infrastructure here

2471
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,119
because of all the work that we've done

2472
01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:46,000
and the grant funding we've received. We

2473
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,719
also have on our highway department, we

2474
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:51,360
have a solar system that produces more

2475
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,080
electricity than the highway department

2476
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,520
uses. And so we're able to have this van

2477
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,920
plugged in um and uh excess energy can

2478
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,159
be allocated towards the charging

2479
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,719
stations for these purposes. So there's

2480
01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:10,000
savings associated with that. Um Teresa

2481
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,920
has looked into different makes and

2482
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:13,520
models and come up with the

2483
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,280
recommendation for um the Dodge Ram

2484
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,960
truck uh or EV cargo van that's

2485
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,520
recommended here. Um and we've worked

2486
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,320
together on identifying that there is uh

2487
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,560
still some funding. We could at least

2488
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:32,480
get about 10% um grant funding for the

2489
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,040
purchase of the van.

2490
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,440
So what you have is a resolution that

2491
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:40,239
includes um sort of the gross amount of

2492
01:46:40,239 --> 01:46:41,760
$78,000.

2493
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,440
Um

2494
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:45,520
we would hope to receive at least the

2495
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,600
$7,500 rebate for the acquisition then.

2496
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,119
So, what would the what would it cost

2497
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:54,960
for the same van and and gas?

2498
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,550
>> Um

2499
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,239
58,000

2500
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:01,920
but no rebate.

2501
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,960
>> 58,000 but no rebate. And so we're at

2502
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:06,639
Sorry, the number was

2503
01:47:06,639 --> 01:47:09,040
>> So we're about 70 with the rebate.

2504
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,719
>> 70 with a

2505
01:47:10,719 --> 01:47:12,179
>> with a rebate. Yeah. And then

2506
01:47:12,179 --> 01:47:13,199
[clears throat] you have to do the

2507
01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:16,560
savings versus the electric which is in

2508
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,800
theory free because it's it's being

2509
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,560
remote and metered from the highway

2510
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,080
garage and the maintenance. Um and

2511
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:29,520
there's also um our policy of when we

2512
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:39,750
can to continue our electrification.

2513
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,360
Any further questions?

2514
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,080
>> The uh the current ban, how many miles a

2515
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,920
year do you put on that?

2516
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,360
>> I don't know off the top of my head,

2517
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:54,390
Ken.

2518
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,400
» But I can tell you what we use it for.

2519
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:56,960
>> Oh, okay.

2520
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,000
>> Um, we use it for sign installation. So,

2521
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:03,520
it has like a um uh equipment inside and

2522
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,280
all the nuts and bolts and it can carry

2523
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,920
the signs and the poles. And we also use

2524
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,679
it for carrying stuff that has to be

2525
01:48:09,679 --> 01:48:12,080
undercover because the rest of our

2526
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,400
equipment is pickup trucks that are open

2527
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,320
to the weather. So, if we have to go

2528
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:17,840
pick up parts or something, we can use

2529
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,199
the van. Um, if you have to drop off a

2530
01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:24,560
vehicle like one of the big uh dump

2531
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,840
trucks up to Hudson or or anywhere else,

2532
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,800
Albany, uh, the van can follow and then

2533
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,239
take a person back.

2534
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:34,080
>> So, it's like a multi-purpose um,

2535
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,760
vehicle. It's very handy,

2536
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,480
>> right? But it sits idle quite a bit, it

2537
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:39,119
sounds like.

2538
01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:41,440
>> Well, I guess if you look at it that

2539
01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:43,840
way, a lot of them sit idle quite a bit.

2540
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,360
It just depends on what you're doing,

2541
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,920
right, at that particular time.

2542
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,679
But uh

2543
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:51,360
>> well my concern is there's been some

2544
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,400
issues with electric vehicles. So if it

2545
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,639
was something that was really we really

2546
01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:59,119
dependent on you know and obviously we

2547
01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:01,119
are but it's not going to

2548
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:02,960
>> No it's not an emergency response

2549
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:03,679
vehicle

2550
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:04,080
>> right

2551
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,800
>> and with this particular vehicle um we

2552
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,800
have to go out to bid.

2553
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,080
>> So so far I've seen 2025s. I haven't

2554
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,440
seen 2026s to build yet. But if there's

2555
01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:17,199
going to be any issues, the manufacturer

2556
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:18,639
will let us know.

2557
01:49:18,639 --> 01:49:19,600
>> Right. Okay.

2558
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,400
>> So, um this is the first step in the

2559
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,880
process just like the other items. We

2560
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,719
have to follow a protocol set by New

2561
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:30,560
York State in order to go out for a mini

2562
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,960
bid. So, this bid will go all over the

2563
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,119
state and if people have them, they'll

2564
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:37,040
give us a price and if they don't,

2565
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,280
they'll let us know why. So, again,

2566
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,440
we'll come back with the bid results and

2567
01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:44,639
say, "Do you want to buy this or not?

2568
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:46,880
So, it's just we have to get approval to

2569
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,920
go forward in order to use the state bid

2570
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:50,639
system.

2571
01:49:50,639 --> 01:49:52,080
>> Right.

2572
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,239
Thank you.

2573
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:56,080
>> Thank you, Teresa. Anything else you'd

2574
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,040
like us to know before we entertain

2575
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,360
motion to approve that resolution?

2576
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:02,000
>> Nope.

2577
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,880
>> Okay.

2578
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,480
Uh this is now resolution four. here.

2579
01:50:08,480 --> 01:50:12,310
>> Five.

2580
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,639
» Authorizing procurement of bids for EV

2581
01:50:14,639 --> 01:50:17,119
cargo van for the highway department

2582
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:19,520
purposes. Whereas the town of Red Hook

2583
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,679
and this also has been discussed in

2584
01:50:21,679 --> 01:50:23,360
previous meetings. Just for the folks at

2585
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,000
home, uh has recommended the purchase of

2586
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,159
a utility van for highway department

2587
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:30,719
purposes. Uh the town board requested

2588
01:50:30,719 --> 01:50:32,719
the consideration of an electric vehicle

2589
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:34,719
in accordance with the town's purchasing

2590
01:50:34,719 --> 01:50:37,679
and procurement policy which was updated

2591
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:42,000
to reflect our desire to uh OE

2592
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,480
um uh investigate

2593
01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:47,760
um environmentally friendly uh products.

2594
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,679
Um whereas the highway superintendent

2595
01:50:49,679 --> 01:50:51,840
has identified a type of vehicle with

2596
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,040
the specs determined to be necessary for

2597
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,840
the department's use being a Dodge Ram

2598
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,320
ProMaster electric cargo van the

2599
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,560
equipment available through New York

2600
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:07,920
State OS state contract number 231 166

2601
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,840
to be acquired through the mini bid

2602
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,600
procedure in accordance with the terms

2603
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,880
and conditions of such contra uh

2604
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,840
contract and our purchasing

2605
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,960
policy. Highway superintendent is hereby

2606
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,280
authorized to proceed with procurement

2607
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,560
of bids for the equipment in accordance

2608
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,800
with the contract terms and conditions

2609
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,280
with an estimated cost not to exceed

2610
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,639
78,000. The town supervisor and town's

2611
01:51:34,639 --> 01:51:37,760
other officers are hereby authorized and

2612
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,040
directed for a name to do all acts and

2613
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,520
things necessary in convenient in

2614
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:47,119
furtherance of this resolution. Number

2615
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:50,480
five, who might be a liaison to the

2616
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,239
highway department? Who would want to

2617
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:53,440
move that?

2618
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:54,480
>> So moved.

2619
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,400
>> Thanks, Jac.

2620
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:00,000
Uh, is there a second?

2621
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,470
Electric. May I second that resolution?

2622
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:06,719
Further uh discussion?

2623
01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:08,880
>> Thank you, Teresa.

2624
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,560
>> Thank you.

2625
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,760
>> Very good. All in favor? Hi,

2626
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,119
>> Christina Kenny.

2627
01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:16,400
>> I Bill.

2628
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:16,960
>> Hi.

2629
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,040
>> Thank you very much. Okay, that was

2630
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,159
number five. Resolution number five.

2631
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:25,040
Agenda item number three

2632
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,400
um gun water district. Uh we did fire

2633
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,280
district. Let's go to the first item on

2634
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,393
the agenda which is the resolution

2635
01:52:36,403 --> 01:52:37,440
[clears throat]

2636
01:52:37,440 --> 01:52:47,030
organizing resolution.

2637
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,480
Don't look at the screen. You'll get

2638
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:51,910
dizzy.

2639
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,800
» The annual reward.

2640
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,719
There we go. Um, we do this annually

2641
01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:01,119
where we state where when our meetings

2642
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:03,760
are. This will serve as the public

2643
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,080
notice for all our town board meetings

2644
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:10,159
by the way um for 2026. any changes then

2645
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,719
nor uh necessitate a change in the uh

2646
01:53:14,719 --> 01:53:17,679
public meeting notice

2647
01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:19,599
be it resolve the town board of the town

2648
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:21,840
of Breok as follows meeting dates

2649
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,760
regular meetings of the board will take

2650
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,400
place throughout the year 2026 and the

2651
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,440
following days in each month 7:30 at

2652
01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:31,599
town hall second Tuesday and fourth

2653
01:53:31,599 --> 01:53:33,599
Wednesday it has been such for many

2654
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:35,840
years now additional special meetings

2655
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,599
may be scheduled and announced by

2656
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:39,840
posting the announce announcement at

2657
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,960
town hall as required by chapter 22 of

2658
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,440
the vote with notification to the press

2659
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:48,320
as required by public officers law.

2660
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,400
Number two, the official newspaper of

2661
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,599
the town for 2026 shall be the Gypsy

2662
01:53:53,599 --> 01:53:57,119
Journal depositories. Uh these are the

2663
01:53:57,119 --> 01:54:03,750
banks that um we have uh funds with.

2664
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,400
In addition, the town is a member of a

2665
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,719
of New York class pursuant to New York

2666
01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:11,360
class mean cooperation agreement amended

2667
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,719
and restated. That's where we have our

2668
01:54:14,719 --> 01:54:17,199
funds that we are not using immediately.

2669
01:54:17,199 --> 01:54:19,280
If you think of it in terms of a money

2670
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,239
market fund where we get um better

2671
01:54:22,239 --> 01:54:25,280
interest and uh keeping it in the bank.

2672
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:28,159
Um this is a cooperative of many

2673
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:31,189
municipalities.

2674
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:33,360
The following officers are authorized to

2675
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:36,400
maintain a pettic cash to conduct um

2676
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,320
day-to-day business. The following

2677
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,080
amounts not to exceed $500 per officer

2678
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,199
or $1,000 for the receiver.

2679
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:48,159
Salaries, the salaries uh below are the

2680
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:50,800
salaries that were adopted uh the budget

2681
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,119
for 2026.

2682
01:54:53,119 --> 01:54:56,000
mileage reimbursement rate for town

2683
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:00,159
business uh the IRS rate of 72

2684
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:03,440
cents per mile who incur official

2685
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,440
mileage when they are obligated to drive

2686
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,840
their own vehicles on town business or

2687
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:12,000
when a town vehicle is not available

2688
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,960
and then as a reimbursement undertaking

2689
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,679
the town board of the town of hereby

2690
01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:19,760
authorized the execution of a blanket

2691
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,080
bond in lie of individual undertaking

2692
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,199
pursuant to section 112 of the public

2693
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:27,440
officers law for the purpose of covering

2694
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,599
all officers and employees who collect

2695
01:55:29,599 --> 01:55:32,880
money including in the list of these

2696
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:37,199
positions here in town hall.

2697
01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:40,080
The town board hereby authorized the

2698
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,159
following to sign bank checks for all

2699
01:55:42,159 --> 01:55:44,159
town business. That would be the town

2700
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:46,960
supervisor in his absence or her

2701
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,199
absence, deputy supervisor William

2702
01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:52,159
Hamill. And three, in the absence of the

2703
01:55:52,159 --> 01:55:54,639
supervisor and deputy supervisor, any of

2704
01:55:54,639 --> 01:55:56,560
the town board members, Christina

2705
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,080
Duchar, Ken Migerelli, or Jacob Taup,

2706
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,239
the annual financial report, the town

2707
01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:04,080
board of the town of Red Hook, hereby

2708
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,480
authorizes and directs the supervisor to

2709
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,040
submit to the town clerk within 60 days

2710
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,639
after the closing of the fiscal year or

2711
01:56:12,639 --> 01:56:15,040
such later date as may be required for

2712
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,119
such filing with the state controller, a

2713
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:19,760
copy of the supervisor's report to the

2714
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,760
state controller and the town clerk

2715
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,320
shall cause a summary of such report to

2716
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,480
be published within 10 days of that

2717
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,520
filing in the official newspaper

2718
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,800
procurement. Um, and that's uh uh for

2719
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,280
Penny and for Christina. Uh, we'll, if

2720
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,040
you have not had a chance, we'll send

2721
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,320
along to you. Um, those various policies

2722
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,440
you'll want to review them um in the

2723
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,639
future should we decide to u make any

2724
01:56:46,639 --> 01:56:48,800
changes to them. Procurement investment

2725
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,159
policy, ethics policy. I know that the

2726
01:56:52,159 --> 01:56:55,119
ethics board I think is looking to do

2727
01:56:55,119 --> 01:56:57,040
another training session. Is that right?

2728
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:58,880
>> Yeah. There will be um we're working to

2729
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,280
schedule an inperson training next

2730
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,440
Friday here in Pon Hall for all town

2731
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:04,800
employees and

2732
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:05,920
>> next Friday

2733
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,320
>> and then not this upcoming but next the

2734
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:08,960
23rd

2735
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:09,599
>> 23rd

2736
01:57:09,599 --> 01:57:11,920
>> um and then there will be an a second

2737
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:13,520
one that'll be held virtually the

2738
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,280
following Tuesday in the evening for

2739
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,040
those who can't attend the first Friday.

2740
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,159
>> I have a number of comments. I thought

2741
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:19,679
we were we had to get through it and

2742
01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:22,080
then make a motion before we discuss it

2743
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,920
but apparently that's not true.

2744
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,560
>> Sure. Okay. before we we can get through

2745
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:27,679
it. Did you want to make

2746
01:57:27,679 --> 01:57:29,360
>> Well, so I mean I mean if we're going to

2747
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,119
talk about it, let's let's talk about it

2748
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:32,880
as we're as we're going because I think

2749
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:34,320
it's I think it's more relevant.

2750
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,000
>> I think I think we're finished. Did you

2751
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:36,560
have comments?

2752
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:41,119
>> I I do. So So the the meetings the 7:30

2753
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:43,840
meeting time and the and the Tuesday and

2754
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,880
the fourth Wednesday. Um I I would

2755
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,040
propose an earlier meeting time and a

2756
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:50,800
consistent day. I think that's very

2757
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:55,360
confusing for the public and um honestly

2758
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,159
for ourselves to to have have that kind

2759
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:00,800
of a schedule. So I I would propose we

2760
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:05,679
meet at at 6:00 instead of 7:30.

2761
01:58:05,679 --> 01:58:10,560
>> Okay. Um uh my understanding these times

2762
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,320
are predate uh boy they predate not only

2763
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,119
my being town supervisor but when I was

2764
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:21,440
on the town board way back in 2009

2765
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,800
my understanding was the times were set

2766
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,360
so that uh folks could have dinner with

2767
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:31,199
their family and come here and the uh

2768
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:34,560
choice of having two separate days. My

2769
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,400
understanding, Christina, was that if

2770
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,480
you chose, say, a Tuesday and a

2771
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,080
Wednesday, that if somebody had a

2772
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:44,159
standing Tuesday thing that um they

2773
01:58:44,159 --> 01:58:45,760
could at least come to one meeting a

2774
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,040
month, they could come on the Wednesday

2775
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,599
or vice versa. That was the rationale.

2776
01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:51,280
I'm not saying that has to continue that

2777
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:51,760
way, but

2778
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,360
>> I mean, I'm I'm putting it out there as

2779
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:58,080
a as a um as a discussion item. I think

2780
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,560
that I think that it's rather late and I

2781
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,679
think that that historically there's

2782
01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:05,760
been there's been a lot of interest and

2783
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,159
that's a positive thing for for the

2784
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:12,719
board. Um and um you know I think I

2785
01:59:12,719 --> 01:59:15,760
think families are flexible and there's

2786
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:20,239
7:30 is is rather late in the evening as

2787
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:25,199
a start time. Um, so I I I we've I've

2788
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:27,119
had this discussion on other other

2789
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:29,280
committees that we've been on that

2790
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:30,880
historically have met later in the

2791
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,159
evening and the consensus has been to

2792
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:36,960
move it earlier and and that's I've seen

2793
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,400
that overall to be a positive change.

2794
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,560
>> Okay. Um,

2795
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:43,679
anyone else?

2796
01:59:43,679 --> 01:59:45,432
>> Yeah, I like to agree with that.

2797
01:59:45,432 --> 01:59:45,760
[laughter]

2798
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:47,040
>> Okay.

2799
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,880
>> Uh,

2800
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,040
yeah, I go to bed kind of early. I wake

2801
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,159
up early uh and I do and I mentioned

2802
01:59:54,159 --> 01:59:58,960
this to you Robert um I'm on a two three

2803
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:02,239
four other committees and the t this

2804
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:05,040
Tuesday is the uh committee which I've

2805
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,040
been on down in New York City for green

2806
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:08,639
market

2807
02:00:08,639 --> 02:00:13,440
so it is a conflict uh especially with what's going on with green market I

2808
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,159
need to be involved in that committee so

2809
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:18,560
it would be nice if they were the second

2810
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:21,119
and fourth Wednesday

2811
02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:23,679
Uh that would be good for me and I

2812
02:00:23,679 --> 02:00:25,440
understand. I don't know what I'm going

2813
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:30,320
to do if if I can't and uh the I would

2814
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,560
like to see the meetings earlier also.

2815
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:33,920
Uh

2816
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,159
>> but I think if he would be earlier on

2817
02:00:36,159 --> 02:00:38,000
Tuesday, that'd be worse for you, not

2818
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:38,719
better.

2819
02:00:38,719 --> 02:00:39,440
>> Is that right?

2820
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:40,719
>> Y' worse for me.

2821
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:44,880
>> But then I only uh uh the those meetings

2822
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,199
go exactly three hours. They don't go

2823
02:00:47,199 --> 02:00:49,520
over. So, um,

2824
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:50,800
>> when do they start?

2825
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:51,920
>> Six.

2826
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,000
>> So, I would only be able to sit in on it

2827
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:55,920
for an hour and a half.

2828
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:56,639
>> Okay.

2829
02:00:56,639 --> 02:01:00,080
>> So, is there you're saying Wednesday

2830
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,320
would be a conflict for other people?

2831
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,960
>> Well, second Wednesday here town hall is

2832
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,199
taken up by both the ZBA. We would have

2833
02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:08,960
to if we were to move to Wednesday, we'd

2834
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,199
have to move the ZBA out of there.

2835
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:13,360
Second Wednesday, that's this room. And

2836
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:16,080
then the CAC takes the conference room.

2837
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,320
So, it wouldn't just be us having to

2838
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,040
change our schedule to accommodate that.

2839
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:22,000
It [clears throat] would we would have

2840
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,080
to move other boards and then

2841
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,239
>> we, you know, we don't have the ability

2842
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:28,400
tonight certainly to know that

2843
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:30,400
>> whether or not they could or would want

2844
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:31,760
to

2845
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:36,880
>> change early, one late, one late. Um,

2846
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,199
Jacob, I'm sorry you started to say

2847
02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:41,679
Tuesdays, um, Thursdays, I have a

2848
02:01:41,679 --> 02:01:43,360
commitment earlier in the evening that I

2849
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:45,520
wouldn't be able to get here until after

2850
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,040
like 7:30 is about the earliest we can

2851
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:47,840
get over here.

2852
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:50,000
>> So you can't do earlier if it's Tuesdays

2853
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:51,280
and Thursdays.

2854
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,560
>> We can't do a second Wednesday right now

2855
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:58,639
because of ZBA um and CAC here.

2856
02:01:58,639 --> 02:01:59,679
>> Well, I think that's an overall

2857
02:01:59,679 --> 02:02:03,040
discussion. I think there's there's a flexibility amongst amongst

2858
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:05,119
many committees. I mean, when other

2859
02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:06,400
committees I've been on, we've talked

2860
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,280
about it. And it's not to say that there

2861
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:10,960
maybe this is something that can't be

2862
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:16,239
resolved right now, but we should we should we should have an open

2863
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:20,400
discussion. And 7:30 is very late. Um

2864
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,719
>> and and you know, we've had we've had

2865
02:02:22,719 --> 02:02:25,040
meetings that have gone on until until

2866
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:26,800
midnight, and that certainly affects

2867
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:27,760
people.

2868
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:29,599
>> Um and that's that's really not an

2869
02:02:29,599 --> 02:02:31,280
accessible time

2870
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:33,360
>> um for the public in general. So

2871
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:34,000
>> yeah,

2872
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:34,800
>> um

2873
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:36,639
>> we've also had many meetings that were

2874
02:02:36,639 --> 02:02:38,560
over in an hour, but I hear your point

2875
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:41,840
that it does we we run that risk when we

2876
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:43,520
start a meeting that if we want to

2877
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:46,320
accommodate or get all the work

2878
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,800
conducted that evening. We did stop one

2879
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,480
meeting. It was the first time in my 10

2880
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,159
years we stopped a meeting before we

2881
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:54,320
finished all the all the work. And maybe

2882
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,320
that's what we need to consider if we

2883
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,719
are stuck um meeting at 7:30.

2884
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:00,400
>> And I also think the switching of the

2885
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:03,119
days is confusing. I think that it's

2886
02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:05,679
that, you know,

2887
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:08,960
town board is is is a a commit, you

2888
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,360
know, an entity that that should take

2889
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:14,960
precedent and and consistency of meeting

2890
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,520
on the same time, the same one day a

2891
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,920
week at an earlier time um would be what

2892
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,840
I would press for. Yeah, I hear you

2893
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,840
ZBA switch on uh

2894
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,159
>> Well, I'll not I we we'll need to

2895
02:03:30,159 --> 02:03:32,880
approach the ZBA if that's what but I I

2896
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,199
do uh I do think we need to give it some

2897
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:37,440
consideration. Uh Christine and Kenny.

2898
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,119
>> Okay. Um I think we do um

2899
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:42,960
uh and and I do agree we're not going to

2900
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:47,760
solve it tonight, right? Um, so we'll take a look uh at this and see

2901
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,360
what uh what options exist and look at

2902
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:55,840
the pros and cons of of switching one

2903
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,400
or time or or or what have you. We have

2904
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,400
to all look in our schedules because we

2905
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,040
all have different hats that we wear

2906
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,560
>> um in addition to to these roles. So I

2907
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,040
appreciate that and maybe we can um try

2908
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,520
to get our calendars together and see

2909
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,360
what the holes are. maybe start with

2910
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:15,920
what you absolutely can't do and then

2911
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,400
we'll work from there and see how the

2912
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,119
puzzle comes together. We will have to

2913
02:04:21,119 --> 02:04:23,360
at least for now stick with what we've

2914
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,639
got um so that we can have our meeting

2915
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:30,159
uh on January 28. That would be the

2916
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:32,719
fourth meeting if you want to make a you

2917
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:35,199
know subsequently we can make amendments

2918
02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:37,440
to the meeting schedule but we do need

2919
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:38,719
to publish

2920
02:04:38,719 --> 02:04:40,320
>> on the notice. Okay.

2921
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,400
>> So there's that. Anything else on this?

2922
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:42,800
Uh

2923
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,560
>> I I did have another comment on item

2924
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,920
number five was confusing to me. Um so

2925
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,520
the the salaries that were laid out for

2926
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:54,800
um for town board. Uh

2927
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,119
is this all inclusive?

2928
02:04:57,119 --> 02:04:58,719
Because reviewing the budget, there were

2929
02:04:58,719 --> 02:05:00,719
other line items that seem to be

2930
02:05:00,719 --> 02:05:02,560
allocated to certain members.

2931
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,280
>> These are for these positions and that's

2932
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:07,920
the way that the resolution must read

2933
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:11,360
the position. Um yes there are other

2934
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:13,679
budgetary lines but the these are the

2935
02:05:13,679 --> 02:05:17,520
ones that need to be um put in the uh

2936
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:18,639
>> what do you mean what do you mean this

2937
02:05:18,639 --> 02:05:20,560
is the way it must read doesn't you

2938
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:21,040
explain

2939
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,960
>> you need to state the salary for the

2940
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:25,520
supervisor role you need to state the

2941
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,000
salary for the town uh council member

2942
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,480
role you need to state the salary for

2943
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,960
the town clerk role and the town

2944
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:36,000
justices these are um

2945
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,159
>> and you're not able to so there there's

2946
02:05:38,159 --> 02:05:41,119
other there's other um supplementary

2947
02:05:41,119 --> 02:05:41,920
roles that

2948
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,719
>> this is elected officials.

2949
02:05:44,719 --> 02:05:47,199
>> Yeah, I'm trying to give you I'm trying

2950
02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:48,560
to give you the answer that to your

2951
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:53,199
question. You need to state the salary

2952
02:05:53,199 --> 02:05:55,520
figure for the elected officials. These

2953
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,679
are are the elected official lines.

2954
02:05:57,679 --> 02:06:01,360
Okay. So if there's if the supervisor is

2955
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:05,199
also the budget uh officer as statutoily

2956
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:09,360
he or she is unless they declare someone

2957
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,679
else to be that role that is not

2958
02:06:11,679 --> 02:06:14,320
included because that is not the elected

2959
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,400
official salary. But wouldn't it be

2960
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:20,000
clear wouldn't it be clear to state in there even if even if those roles

2961
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:21,920
weren't assigned like what

2962
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:26,000
>> there are other other supplementary

2963
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,639
um salaries that are

2964
02:06:28,639 --> 02:06:30,719
>> no applied to no

2965
02:06:30,719 --> 02:06:32,400
>> certain people within these roles.

2966
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,719
>> No no Christina it is the following

2967
02:06:34,719 --> 02:06:38,320
salaries for elected officials. That's

2968
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:45,430
it. So it must read that one. Okay,

2969
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:48,400
the budget spells out all the various

2970
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:53,830
lines.

2971
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:56,159
» Okay, so that's the reorg resolution.

2972
02:06:56,159 --> 02:07:00,639
It's number are we lucky? Number seven,

2973
02:07:00,639 --> 02:07:04,239
>> six. We're at six.

2974
02:07:04,239 --> 02:07:06,320
>> And then we can get to the liaison

2975
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:08,079
roles.

2976
02:07:08,079 --> 02:07:11,669
um

2977
02:07:11,679 --> 02:07:14,719
try to tackle some of those tonight. So,

2978
02:07:14,719 --> 02:07:17,679
a resolution number six, it's relating

2979
02:07:17,679 --> 02:07:20,800
to annual reor.

2980
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:24,079
Who would like to move that?

2981
02:07:24,079 --> 02:07:24,719
>> So, moved.

2982
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:27,199
>> Thank you, Jacob. Is there a second?

2983
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:30,320
>> A second. Thank you, William. Uh any

2984
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,040
further discussion? If not,

2985
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:34,159
>> sorry.

2986
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:36,960
>> Annual reorg. So, so I I need to

2987
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:38,560
understand what we're voting on in this.

2988
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:40,960
The what we just reviewed, we had a

2989
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:44,560
number of revisions to it.

2990
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:45,199
>> I'm sorry. What?

2991
02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:46,239
>> I don't think we have any revisions.

2992
02:07:46,239 --> 02:07:50,870
>> What were the revisions to it?

2993
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,800
» We're just voting on this resolution

2994
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:54,560
>> on on this resolution. So we're saying

2995
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:58,639
that the meeting dates are are set

2996
02:07:58,639 --> 02:08:04,719
understood for the next meeting but we discussed that that might be

2997
02:08:04,719 --> 02:08:10,079
like what what would be the mechanism of revising that if if we chose that in

2998
02:08:10,079 --> 02:08:12,000
the future amendment

2999
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:13,920
>> yes we would need to create a new

3000
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:17,679
resolution to set the town board

3001
02:08:17,679 --> 02:08:20,239
meetings for a new date and time we

3002
02:08:20,239 --> 02:08:24,560
would then need to publish that we have

3003
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,639
to publish all our meetings.

3004
02:08:28,639 --> 02:08:32,000
This is the mechanism for publishing

3005
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:35,280
them to say as of now they are still

3006
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:36,880
second Tuesday and fourth Wednesday.

3007
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:38,560
>> So would we be able to say that they're

3008
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,480
second

3009
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:42,639
uh Tuesday and fourth Wednesday for the

3010
02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:47,679
next for for January and then and then

3011
02:08:47,679 --> 02:08:50,320
we'll revisit this for February and

3012
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:53,350
beyond.

3013
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:56,079
Um, I'm not sure that that would be

3014
02:08:56,079 --> 02:08:59,040
prudent of us to do that because we can

3015
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:03,760
make the change right now.

3016
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,440
Once we approve this, we don't have to

3017
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:11,119
republish each and every meeting.

3018
02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:14,079
If we go to make a change, then we will

3019
02:09:14,079 --> 02:09:17,040
do a new publishing.

3020
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:20,000
If we go ahead and say it's only good

3021
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,719
for January, then we're looking at

3022
02:09:22,719 --> 02:09:24,239
additional costs and time and

3023
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:27,199
expenditure to do the republishing of

3024
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:31,760
the notices. We are also um

3025
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:35,199
not laying out the meeting schedule for

3026
02:09:35,199 --> 02:09:37,199
um you know a significant period of time

3027
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:39,199
and right now I don't hear that we have

3028
02:09:39,199 --> 02:09:42,320
any consensus on any changes yet. So

3029
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:44,000
>> well can that's fair. Can we can we

3030
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:45,679
agree that we'll discuss it at the at

3031
02:09:45,679 --> 02:09:48,480
the next meeting and we'll we'll commit

3032
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:49,679
to to

3033
02:09:49,679 --> 02:09:50,079
>> sure

3034
02:09:50,079 --> 02:09:52,480
>> potentially reorganizing with other

3035
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:54,880
>> other um committees and boards.

3036
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:58,709
>> Sure.

3037
02:09:58,719 --> 02:10:01,840
>> Okay.

3038
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:04,079
>> All right. So, uh seeing no changes.

3039
02:10:04,079 --> 02:10:05,679
Sorry, Kenny. Did you want to say

3040
02:10:05,679 --> 02:10:10,069
>> No, I just voted I. That's [laughter]

3041
02:10:10,079 --> 02:10:14,480
» I is good. Um, so we have a motion, a

3042
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,800
second. We have an I at this end.

3043
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,360
Williams an I. I'm an I. Jacob's an I.

3044
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:20,079
Christina

3045
02:10:20,079 --> 02:10:22,320
>> I.

3046
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:27,510
>> Um, very good. Why don't we

3047
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,119
jumping around a lot tonight? I

3048
02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:35,030
apologize.

3049
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:36,880
» We have to go.

3050
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:40,079
>> Let's do uh

3051
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:41,199
Sorry.

3052
02:10:41,199 --> 02:10:45,040
amount on the registar to appoint so

3053
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,040
that I can submit that

3054
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:48,639
>> uh

3055
02:10:48,639 --> 02:10:49,760
what

3056
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:51,920
>> registar as a register I need to be

3057
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:53,119
appointed

3058
02:10:53,119 --> 02:10:55,679
>> I I think you're still a hold over

3059
02:10:55,679 --> 02:10:56,560
though

3060
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,360
>> yeah you still are the registar

3061
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,520
I'm sorry I don't I I didn't we weren't

3062
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:03,280
going to make any specific appointments

3063
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:04,719
>> yeah but you signed it I just want to

3064
02:11:04,719 --> 02:11:06,560
get that to the county and get that to

3065
02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:07,679
the city

3066
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:12,000
>> okay um park has been register register

3067
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:16,079
of vital statistics.

3068
02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:18,639
>> This time I'd like to make a motion that

3069
02:11:18,639 --> 02:11:20,880
for 2026

3070
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:24,480
that we appoint and continue

3071
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:27,840
uh our town clerk Diana Cochran has the

3072
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:29,599
register

3073
02:11:29,599 --> 02:11:30,400
finals.

3074
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,000
>> Second that.

3075
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,679
>> Thank you.

3076
02:11:33,679 --> 02:11:38,560
>> Any discussion? If not, all in favor? I

3077
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:38,880
>> I

3078
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,320
>> Thank you. Okay.

3079
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:40,880
>> Thanks.

3080
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:45,350
>> All right. Uh

3081
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:48,880
let's go to

3082
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,119
number eight. Jumping around. I

3083
02:11:51,119 --> 02:11:53,760
apologize. Um just assigning the

3084
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:56,239
delegate to the Association of Towns

3085
02:11:56,239 --> 02:11:57,840
meeting.

3086
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,320
>> What What happened to the um town board

3087
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:01,840
appointments?

3088
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,040
>> Yeah, we're going to get to that.

3089
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:03,440
>> Okay.

3090
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,199
>> We're going to get to that. That that

3091
02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:07,920
maybe be just a longer conversation. We

3092
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:14,790
want to get to a couple of items. Um,

3093
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:16,320
» somebody's trying to pair their phone to

3094
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:20,470
the TV.

3095
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:23,599
» Yeah, let's not do that.

3096
02:12:23,599 --> 02:12:25,440
>> Okay,

3097
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,159
we would

3098
02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:34,470
um All right.

3099
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,000
» Okay.

3100
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,599
I think I mentioned there's an annual

3101
02:12:37,599 --> 02:12:40,560
conference that happens every February.

3102
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:42,480
There are

3103
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:44,719
uh votes that are conducted at the

3104
02:12:44,719 --> 02:12:46,880
Association of Towns. There are over 900

3105
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,440
towns in New York State. I think it's

3106
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:51,040
Red

3107
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:54,000
House. I believe it's Red House that is

3108
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:57,119
the smallest town in

3109
02:12:57,119 --> 02:12:59,040
state of New York. [clears throat]

3110
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,159
Something like 3740 people. I believe I

3111
02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:03,599
have that right. And then you have towns

3112
02:13:03,599 --> 02:13:05,199
like Brook Haven which are several

3113
02:13:05,199 --> 02:13:08,320
hundred thousand. They all convene and

3114
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:12,079
they have policy uh positions. They do a

3115
02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:14,239
fair amount of lobbying on our behalf,

3116
02:13:14,239 --> 02:13:17,040
the Association of Towns. They also have

3117
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:20,400
some uh recommendations for changes to

3118
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,560
their bylaws that they would like us to

3119
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:26,639
look at. Um, we're looking for no action

3120
02:13:26,639 --> 02:13:28,320
tonight

3121
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:31,520
or discussion on the policy

3122
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:34,639
positions, but they are here. Many of

3123
02:13:34,639 --> 02:13:38,079
them are either repeat

3124
02:13:38,079 --> 02:13:41,679
um asks of Albany or [snorts] related to

3125
02:13:41,679 --> 02:13:45,440
previous asks. Uh, oftentimes they are

3126
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,400
funding related.

3127
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:50,480
So for the new board members, if you

3128
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:52,880
would kindly take a look between now and

3129
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:54,159
our next meeting,

3130
02:13:54,159 --> 02:13:55,760
>> I'd be happy to volunteer to go in

3131
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:57,199
February.

3132
02:13:57,199 --> 02:13:59,679
>> Okay. Well, thank you. I appreciate

3133
02:13:59,679 --> 02:14:02,480
that. If you'd like to go um to do the

3134
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:06,000
training, that's great. Um typically the

3135
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:08,639
supervisor is the one who does the

3136
02:14:08,639 --> 02:14:12,159
voting on behalf of the town. Um, I do

3137
02:14:12,159 --> 02:14:14,639
intend to be there in order to uh do

3138
02:14:14,639 --> 02:14:18,000
that and to convey um any thoughts at

3139
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,079
the annual meeting on behalf of the town

3140
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:22,560
board.

3141
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,960
So, you can look at the registration

3142
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,760
information, Christina, and we can take

3143
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,199
a look at the budget and make some uh

3144
02:14:31,199 --> 02:14:34,159
budget adjustments to accommodate

3145
02:14:34,159 --> 02:14:36,239
u you to go get that training.

3146
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:41,189
>> Sounds great.

3147
02:14:41,199 --> 02:14:43,448
Okay. Um, that's it. So, we

3148
02:14:43,448 --> 02:14:46,239
[clears throat] just need a motion uh to

3149
02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:48,400
designate

3150
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,880
and I'll offer myself up as I have

3151
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:53,599
previously

3152
02:14:53,599 --> 02:14:58,239
as the uh person to conduct the voting

3153
02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:02,320
on behalf of the town.

3154
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:05,040
Who would like to make that motion to

3155
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:07,920
designate the town supervisor? Bill,

3156
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,040
you've been down there.

3157
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:11,280
>> Yep, I'll do it. It's a ministerial

3158
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:12,400
process.

3159
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,400
>> Okay. So, you're making the motion to

3160
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:16,320
designate me. Okay.

3161
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:19,280
>> And would you be available in my absence

3162
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:19,840
then?

3163
02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:20,960
>> Not for this meeting.

3164
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:22,880
>> Okay.

3165
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:24,400
>> Who else would be available?

3166
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:26,079
>> I'm available in your absence.

3167
02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:27,920
>> Great. Great. Excellent.

3168
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:30,000
>> Okay. Um,

3169
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:31,119
>> good training.

3170
02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:34,159
>> So, that's a motion to appoint the town

3171
02:15:34,159 --> 02:15:37,920
supervisor as the designate and we'll uh

3172
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:40,480
say Christina as

3173
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:41,119
the alter.

3174
02:15:41,119 --> 02:15:43,760
>> The alter.

3175
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:46,400
>> Very good. Bill's made the motion. Is

3176
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:47,520
there a second?

3177
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:48,880
>> Second.

3178
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:50,880
>> Thank you, Jacob. Any further

3179
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:52,880
discussion? If not, all in favor?

3180
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:57,109
Christina? I

3181
02:15:57,119 --> 02:16:01,430
» All right.

3182
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:03,760
health insurance policy options. Not

3183
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:06,560
looking for action tonight, but I'm just

3184
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:08,560
continuing this because we do need to

3185
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:14,149
pick a policy

3186
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:15,920
uh preferably at our next meeting

3187
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,239
because

3188
02:16:18,239 --> 02:16:20,719
enrollment starts in February, the plan

3189
02:16:20,719 --> 02:16:23,199
year is March. What's different this

3190
02:16:23,199 --> 02:16:25,520
year uh although they did try to come

3191
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:27,599
into the

3192
02:16:27,599 --> 02:16:30,800
uh in the area is United Healthc Care is

3193
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:35,040
making um progressive proposals to

3194
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:37,920
provide um health insurance. This is

3195
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:40,719
sort of the menu of various options.

3196
02:16:40,719 --> 02:16:42,719
>> Can you can you just clarify who this

3197
02:16:42,719 --> 02:16:45,200
applies to? This is this is

3198
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:46,960
>> to whom in our

3199
02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:50,399
>> Yeah. Anybody who is eligible for health

3200
02:16:50,399 --> 02:16:53,040
care, any full-time workers,

3201
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:55,200
>> would the health care come under a union

3202
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:56,719
negotiation

3203
02:16:56,719 --> 02:16:58,399
um

3204
02:16:58,399 --> 02:17:00,960
thing because the guys have health care

3205
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:03,920
through the union and it has to be a a

3206
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,200
comparable product? Does the union have

3207
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,040
to get involved with this? I I have the

3208
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:10,800
understanding that it has to be

3209
02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:13,679
negotiated before it can be changed and

3210
02:17:13,679 --> 02:17:15,439
you're operating on a really short

3211
02:17:15,439 --> 02:17:20,080
window. Um there is there are comparable

3212
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:22,639
plans here for us to look at and so

3213
02:17:22,639 --> 02:17:24,639
that's what we're taking a look at is

3214
02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:26,559
what are the options. We haven't made

3215
02:17:26,559 --> 02:17:27,760
any decisions.

3216
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:29,439
>> But does the union have to take a look

3217
02:17:29,439 --> 02:17:30,880
at what the plans are in order to

3218
02:17:30,880 --> 02:17:33,200
determine that they're comparable.

3219
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:37,120
>> Um the union can look at whatever plans.

3220
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:41,200
We haven't even proposed any plans yet.

3221
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:43,359
>> Well, we have the base plan right now.

3222
02:17:43,359 --> 02:17:45,439
So you're proposing that you may be

3223
02:17:45,439 --> 02:17:47,359
changing the plan

3224
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:51,280
>> and if you do propose to change that I

3225
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:53,040
had understood that the union had to be

3226
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,040
involved in order to make sure that it

3227
02:17:55,040 --> 02:18:00,000
was a comparable plan for the guys. the union is always welcome to be

3228
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:04,479
involved um in in the determination of

3229
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:07,679
the plan, but the town board needs to go

3230
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:09,760
ahead and assign

3231
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:12,719
um a healthcare

3232
02:18:12,719 --> 02:18:14,800
plan for 2026.

3233
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:16,880
>> So, you can assign health care plan

3234
02:18:16,880 --> 02:18:20,160
before taking the options to the union

3235
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:22,240
that you want to do.

3236
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,960
>> We haven't chosen any options yet. We're

3237
02:18:24,960 --> 02:18:27,599
not at that point very soon. Right. I

3238
02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:29,679
understand. But we have a healthcare

3239
02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:32,719
plan. You're proposing perhaps a

3240
02:18:32,719 --> 02:18:35,359
different plan. It should be reviewed by

3241
02:18:35,359 --> 02:18:37,519
the union in order to make sure

3242
02:18:37,519 --> 02:18:40,240
>> that we haven't reached that point,

3243
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:42,000
Teresa. You're making assumptions. We

3244
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:43,840
haven't reached that point where we're

3245
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:46,719
even contemplating other plans.

3246
02:18:46,719 --> 02:18:49,200
>> Okay. I just want to make sure that if

3247
02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:52,160
there's a proposed change

3248
02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:55,120
for the level of funding or the um

3249
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:58,800
amount that they're going to pay um that

3250
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,160
the union be brought in before you make

3251
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:05,760
that decision to compare the plans and

3252
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,719
make sure that it um meets with what the

3253
02:19:08,719 --> 02:19:09,920
contract says.

3254
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:11,760
>> Yes,

3255
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,200
it will meet what the contract says. We

3256
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:18,080
will make sure of that.

3257
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:19,920
But will you make sure that the union

3258
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:21,679
will be able to review it before you

3259
02:19:21,679 --> 02:19:22,240
change it?

3260
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:25,200
>> We we we will send to the union what we

3261
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:27,280
are contemplating if we make a change.

3262
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:27,679
Yes.

3263
02:19:27,679 --> 02:19:29,200
>> What what what's the time frame that

3264
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:30,319
we're looking at?

3265
02:19:30,319 --> 02:19:31,519
>> Well, March 1st

3266
02:19:31,519 --> 02:19:33,920
>> ideally. Yes. March 1st. They need to be

3267
02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:36,399
enrolled and enrollment period actually

3268
02:19:36,399 --> 02:19:39,519
starts. The coverage is March 1st.

3269
02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:42,240
Enrollment period starts beginning of

3270
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:45,519
February. So tonight, what I was hoping

3271
02:19:45,519 --> 02:19:49,680
is we could narrow down three plans,

3272
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:51,920
four plans, and then we can take a look

3273
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:54,399
at them, including our existing one, try

3274
02:19:54,399 --> 02:19:56,800
to get more information, share with the

3275
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,439
union, understand because if we are able

3276
02:19:59,439 --> 02:20:02,240
to find a comparable plan that does save

3277
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,640
the taxpayer money, but gives the same

3278
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:09,439
type of coverage to the employees that also could be in a benefit to the

3279
02:20:09,439 --> 02:20:11,439
employees because they pay into that

3280
02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:12,399
plan as Well,

3281
02:20:12,399 --> 02:20:14,319
>> has this been shared with the union yet?

3282
02:20:14,319 --> 02:20:17,040
>> Not yet. This is there are hundreds of

3283
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,160
This is what our our healthcare uh uh

3284
02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:23,760
broker provides us with is sort of a a

3285
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,240
sampling for this Hudson Valley region,

3286
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:29,200
what's available, knowing that the type

3287
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,640
of coverage um that we're interested in

3288
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:34,479
having for our employees and trying to

3289
02:20:34,479 --> 02:20:37,040
keep the same level of coverage for

3290
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:41,040
them. And each of the various uh

3291
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:44,240
companies offer, you know, their version

3292
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,319
of that type of coverage. We're looking

3293
02:20:46,319 --> 02:20:49,680
at silver plans and bronze plans. Um but

3294
02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:52,479
we're looking at, you know, uh ideally

3295
02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:54,560
we want the same type of coverage where

3296
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:57,520
they get 100% coverage on just about

3297
02:20:57,520 --> 02:21:00,960
everything. Um what what's different

3298
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,720
about each uh plan is often times what

3299
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,920
the deductible amounts are. There's a

3300
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,399
slight difference. Like for example,

3301
02:21:10,399 --> 02:21:14,319
we'll go to the first page here.

3302
02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:16,640
If you notice our existing plan, which

3303
02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:19,200
is the MVP

3304
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,399
silver 8, and then the next column is

3305
02:21:22,399 --> 02:21:24,479
what our plan would be [clears throat]

3306
02:21:24,479 --> 02:21:26,960
if we were to stick with it. Um the

3307
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:30,160
premium increase is just under 16. It's

3308
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:33,920
rounded up to 16. I think it's 15.8%.

3309
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:36,319
We pay for 100%

3310
02:21:36,319 --> 02:21:40,479
of uh the HRA. So when we think in terms

3311
02:21:40,479 --> 02:21:44,319
of the deductibles and um any payment

3312
02:21:44,319 --> 02:21:46,399
that the employee would make know that

3313
02:21:46,399 --> 02:21:52,160
we pay as the town 100% of that um up

3314
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:56,560
until those uh limits. So right now the

3315
02:21:56,560 --> 02:22:00,319
employees pay a percentage of the um

3316
02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:01,120
premium.

3317
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:05,040
>> That's correct. They pay 21% for 2025.

3318
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:06,960
>> As part of the contract they would pay

3319
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:08,479
22%.

3320
02:22:08,479 --> 02:22:11,840
>> So any savings that we could derive from

3321
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:13,840
a comparable plan that gave them

3322
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:17,040
comparable coverage could also extend to

3323
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:21,760
them if we were to um want to entertain

3324
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:24,240
changing of the plans. So everything

3325
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:25,520
that we're looking at, are there plans

3326
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:27,920
on here that that aren't comparable to

3327
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,240
what the union employees are currently

3328
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:30,960
getting?

3329
02:22:30,960 --> 02:22:32,720
>> Yes, there are some that I don't believe

3330
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:33,439
are comparable.

3331
02:22:33,439 --> 02:22:35,120
>> So So why are we even looking at this

3332
02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:36,880
before we eliminate Obviously, we're

3333
02:22:36,880 --> 02:22:38,479
going to pick a plan that that is

3334
02:22:38,479 --> 02:22:40,560
comparable. We have a union,

3335
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:44,000
>> right? Exactly. That's what what we're

3336
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:47,280
going to do tonight is isolate all of

3337
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:50,000
those out that we shouldn't consider and

3338
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:52,800
see what's left. But but that but that's

3339
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:54,720
like a that's like a like like the

3340
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:56,399
insurance agent could have done that for

3341
02:22:56,399 --> 02:23:01,920
and and presented four plans that seems like a waste of time to me.

3342
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:04,399
>> So I just wanted to clarify

3343
02:23:04,399 --> 02:23:06,640
um before you go into the deeper

3344
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:09,040
discussion is that the plan that they

3345
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:14,160
have now they pay 21% and it will be 22%

3346
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:18,399
of um the premium. They don't pay any of

3347
02:23:18,399 --> 02:23:20,960
the deductible and they don't have

3348
02:23:20,960 --> 02:23:22,960
co-pays.

3349
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:25,200
So, they have a fixed amount out of

3350
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:27,600
their paycheck that they can count on

3351
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,600
each pay period and it stays that way. A

3352
02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:35,120
lot of times when you go to um a lower

3353
02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:38,560
premium, which they may benefit from

3354
02:23:38,560 --> 02:23:42,240
bi-weekly, it may not benefit them in

3355
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,080
the long run because with a lower

3356
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:46,560
premium, you often have to then pay an

3357
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:49,520
out-of pocket deductible. So the town

3358
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:53,359
takes care of the high deductible 100%.

3359
02:23:53,359 --> 02:23:57,439
But the employees pay 21 now 22%

3360
02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:00,160
and if the plan changes

3361
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:03,760
where they have to pay then a co-ay

3362
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:05,280
also takes more money out of their

3363
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:09,040
pocket. One of our guys who has had his

3364
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:14,560
raise and the um higher uh percentage

3365
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:20,399
his net this coming year is $154.

3366
02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:23,680
So any change that affects

3367
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,800
beyond what they're paying will then

3368
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,840
affect their bottom line. So my question

3369
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:32,240
would be why wouldn't since we have a

3370
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,800
union, why wouldn't we forward this

3371
02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:37,359
document to the union the second we

3372
02:24:37,359 --> 02:24:40,720
receive it have and and receive the

3373
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:45,600
feedback and then narrow it down and then take a

3374
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:46,399
vote.

3375
02:24:46,399 --> 02:24:48,960
>> Okay. We're not going to take a vote um

3376
02:24:48,960 --> 02:24:52,000
tonight. And again, we can narrow it

3377
02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:54,080
down. There's no reason to present the

3378
02:24:54,080 --> 02:24:57,520
union with a menu template of all these

3379
02:24:57,520 --> 02:25:00,160
choices when we can clearly look at a

3380
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:01,680
whole bunch of these and know that

3381
02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:04,240
they're not comparable. And so all we're

3382
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:06,720
doing tonight is just trying to narrow

3383
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:09,280
it down and then we can forward the

3384
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:12,240
three or four that are even uh looking

3385
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:15,359
at and get questions from the broker.

3386
02:25:15,359 --> 02:25:17,920
And so let's do that exercise if we

3387
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:19,680
could tonight and you'll understand why

3388
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:21,920
it's valuable first step so we can get

3389
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:25,920
to where we can assign. So hearing about

3390
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:28,560
the coverage and the 100%. You can take

3391
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:31,359
a look on the first page here. There's a

3392
02:25:31,359 --> 02:25:34,479
whole bunch of silver three which used

3393
02:25:34,479 --> 02:25:36,560
to be something we did here. The second

3394
02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:39,359
one here has a whole bunch of co-pays.

3395
02:25:39,359 --> 02:25:41,280
This is not something that we would deem

3396
02:25:41,280 --> 02:25:43,760
to be comparable

3397
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,160
um to the kind of coverage that

3398
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:48,800
employees currently have. The same is

3399
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:51,359
true with the next column which is uh

3400
02:25:51,359 --> 02:25:54,319
exchange certified silver. You see the

3401
02:25:54,319 --> 02:25:56,640
co-pays, some of them are insignificant,

3402
02:25:56,640 --> 02:25:59,120
some of them are significant. That would

3403
02:25:59,120 --> 02:26:02,720
not be comparable to what the employees

3404
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:07,439
have. um HDHP, Silver 3, HSA, and again

3405
02:26:07,439 --> 02:26:12,160
I'm sticking with MVP for a time. Um you

3406
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:14,640
see they have in many cases small

3407
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:17,600
co-pays, but then you look at inpatient,

3408
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:21,760
there's a $500 co-pay after uh the

3409
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:24,560
deductible is exhausted. It's a real

3410
02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:26,160
question whether or not that be

3411
02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:29,520
comparable coverage. Then you go to this

3412
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:33,600
next one, the bronze six. Okay. So, this

3413
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:37,359
has very similar, if not um even better

3414
02:26:37,359 --> 02:26:42,160
coverage than the uh silver 8. The

3415
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:44,399
tradeoff, however, is the annual

3416
02:26:44,399 --> 02:26:46,720
deductible limits, which are higher.

3417
02:26:46,720 --> 02:26:49,359
Again, remember that the town is paying

3418
02:26:49,359 --> 02:26:50,960
for

3419
02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:54,479
um those deductibles. It's 100%.

3420
02:26:54,479 --> 02:26:57,200
So, on the one hand, the coverage is

3421
02:26:57,200 --> 02:27:00,080
terrific. It's 100% all down the line

3422
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:01,680
here. You see, I don't know if you can

3423
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:04,240
see my cursor for the folks in the

3424
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,080
audience.

3425
02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:08,319
The premium is less.

3426
02:27:08,319 --> 02:27:12,399
>> There's another big issue though is that

3427
02:27:12,399 --> 02:27:15,120
the coverage between carriers has been

3428
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:18,160
very volatile. I personally experienced

3429
02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:22,960
this with with um with my firm that we

3430
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:26,640
were on a premium plan, it just got

3431
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:29,200
cancelled by

3432
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:33,200
major carrier locally which is like

3433
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,920
the conglomerate that does everything.

3434
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:39,200
So like it's it's it's hard to say even

3435
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:43,040
between like MVP and United and CDPHP

3436
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:45,439
like what

3437
02:27:45,439 --> 02:27:47,120
I I don't feel like this is a decision

3438
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:50,399
that we that we should make. I mean the chart is already narrowed down. It's

3439
02:27:50,399 --> 02:27:53,520
only three pages and the people that are

3440
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:56,720
on these plans are already know what

3441
02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:58,399
their comps are and who their doctors

3442
02:27:58,399 --> 02:27:59,920
are. [clears throat]

3443
02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:02,560
>> Yeah. That's a big thing too is that um

3444
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:05,760
the their MVP is very local.

3445
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,399
So I I hear that United Healthc Care is

3446
02:28:08,399 --> 02:28:12,399
not taking on um like Optum and

3447
02:28:12,399 --> 02:28:14,640
different places. So they may have to

3448
02:28:14,640 --> 02:28:16,880
travel further to and change their

3449
02:28:16,880 --> 02:28:19,359
doctors and go through you know

3450
02:28:19,359 --> 02:28:22,000
reenrollment with other health care

3451
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:25,680
facilities and at this point um I don't

3452
02:28:25,680 --> 02:28:28,160
see that as being fair especially since

3453
02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:29,680
now they are going to pay another

3454
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:31,840
percent. Okay, Teresa, I'm sorry to

3455
02:28:31,840 --> 02:28:33,200
interrupt you, but we need to get

3456
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,439
through to do do our work. You know, I

3457
02:28:35,439 --> 02:28:37,280
appreciate these contributions, but

3458
02:28:37,280 --> 02:28:39,920
we're talking about MVP plans now. And

3459
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:42,560
so, I I'm trying to get the board to

3460
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:45,760
focus on the plans that are comparable

3461
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:48,240
so that we can ask more questions so

3462
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:50,640
that we can make a more educated

3463
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:52,560
decision. I understand the concern.

3464
02:28:52,560 --> 02:28:54,960
>> I'm just giving the background and

3465
02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:58,319
knowledge for the bulk of the people who

3466
02:28:58,319 --> 02:29:00,560
use these plants. I appreciate that. But

3467
02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:03,120
right now, we are talking about an MVP

3468
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,439
plan. So, there'll be no change in the

3469
02:29:05,439 --> 02:29:08,880
network and who they could um go to see.

3470
02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:13,280
It's just a change between this MVP plan

3471
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:15,920
versus that MVP plan. And if that's

3472
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:17,439
something that we want to get more

3473
02:29:17,439 --> 02:29:19,359
questions about and would there be a

3474
02:29:19,359 --> 02:29:21,600
benefit not only to the town, the

3475
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:24,800
taxpayer, but also to the employees. The

3476
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:28,720
premium on this brown bronze six, okay,

3477
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:32,319
is a 7% increase. Where they make it up,

3478
02:29:32,319 --> 02:29:34,240
and they always do find a way to get it,

3479
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,640
is in the higher deductible. So, if we

3480
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:38,640
were to try to project what the

3481
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:42,880
utilization is, right? And here, um,

3482
02:29:42,880 --> 02:29:46,080
they always run for us 100% [snorts] or

3483
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:47,680
60%.

3484
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:50,240
Okay? If we were to use a more typical

3485
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:53,840
60% utilization that we would end up

3486
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:57,120
with a 6% increase and then we'd want to

3487
02:29:57,120 --> 02:30:00,720
understand what if any changes or

3488
02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:02,880
differences in the coverage between

3489
02:30:02,880 --> 02:30:06,319
these two plans because the basics that

3490
02:30:06,319 --> 02:30:08,880
are put on this menu plate look like

3491
02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:11,520
it's just as good if not better coverage

3492
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:16,000
for them. So, we could ask of our our

3493
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:20,240
health uh broker to compare and contrast

3494
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:23,359
these two and to dive deeper into it.

3495
02:30:23,359 --> 02:30:24,880
>> Well, if we're if we originally said

3496
02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:26,319
we're trying to narrow it down to four,

3497
02:30:26,319 --> 02:30:30,000
why don't we just give them the p this page that has all of the MVPs

3498
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:31,359
compared to the current

3499
02:30:31,359 --> 02:30:33,840
>> because there may and get union there

3500
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:36,080
may be other options. It's important for

3501
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:39,600
us to understand the pros and cons also

3502
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:41,120
of different characters. My point is I

3503
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:42,319
don't think we can understand the pros

3504
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:43,680
and cons because I think it's dependent

3505
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:45,359
on the families that are involved and

3506
02:30:45,359 --> 02:30:47,439
who their doctors are. So e like either

3507
02:30:47,439 --> 02:30:51,040
give them all three pages or or if we're

3508
02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:54,000
going to narrow it down to four are we

3509
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:55,359
saying we're narrowing it down to four

3510
02:30:55,359 --> 02:30:58,640
MVPs or we're narrowing it down to four

3511
02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:01,120
of different choices.

3512
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:02,720
What I'm saying is that if we could

3513
02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:05,359
narrow down to a handful

3514
02:31:05,359 --> 02:31:07,920
instead of the three pages worth and

3515
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:09,920
then we can inquire from our health

3516
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:13,439
insurance brokers to contrast the plans

3517
02:31:13,439 --> 02:31:16,160
including our existing plan. Then we

3518
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:18,080
could have a better idea. Some of this

3519
02:31:18,080 --> 02:31:20,319
we can do ourselves. We can simply look

3520
02:31:20,319 --> 02:31:22,720
at the ones that have these larger

3521
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:25,520
co-pays and we can throw them out,

3522
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:27,920
narrow it down. We can make a better

3523
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:31,680
educated decision. We could ask about

3524
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:34,080
the other providers including United

3525
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:37,200
Healthcare, CDPHP. We used to be with

3526
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:38,880
CDPHP

3527
02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:40,720
and contrast

3528
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:43,439
um what's what's available right now on

3529
02:31:43,439 --> 02:31:48,000
page one unless anyone else sees uh

3530
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:50,720
another option. I don't think that we

3531
02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:53,200
should explore any other option except

3532
02:31:53,200 --> 02:31:57,520
for our existing one and this bronze 6

3533
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:01,840
HSA and uh because it does give the

3534
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:04,160
level of coverage that they have. The

3535
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:06,720
risk is that if there were to be 100%

3536
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:10,479
utilization, it could conceivably be

3537
02:32:10,479 --> 02:32:13,520
perhaps a little bit more expensive, but

3538
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:16,240
it's rare that the entire covered

3539
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:22,950
employee pool uses 100% of the HR.

3540
02:32:22,960 --> 02:32:28,389
That make sense?

3541
02:32:28,399 --> 02:32:30,880
Okay, that's the first page. So maybe we

3542
02:32:30,880 --> 02:32:34,240
could ask for a verb to contrast bronze

3543
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:35,760
six with silver eight. [clears throat]

3544
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:37,840
Okay.

3545
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:39,520
Agree. Yes.

3546
02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:41,520
>> I I I don't agree. I don't I don't I

3547
02:32:41,520 --> 02:32:42,319
don't feel like I have enough

3548
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:49,040
information to to make this decision and I feel like it's only three pages. I think I would rather get feedback from

3549
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:51,359
the employees that are using this rather

3550
02:32:51,359 --> 02:32:54,240
than narrow it down for them.

3551
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:58,080
>> Okay, we can do that, too.

3552
02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:00,560
All right. On the second page, we have a

3553
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:03,760
United Healthcare, their silver choice

3554
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:07,920
uh option has lower uh deductibles,

3555
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:12,160
8% increase, but there are um some

3556
02:33:12,160 --> 02:33:14,960
co-pays. Some are low. Don't that

3557
02:33:14,960 --> 02:33:17,840
doesn't look like comparable to me. The

3558
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:25,349
next column, HD, HP, EPO,

3559
02:33:25,359 --> 02:33:33,910
a little higher on the deductibles.

3560
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:37,600
coverage looks somewhat comparable.

3561
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:41,280
Uh the specialist visit

3562
02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:49,190
need some clarification on that.

3563
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:50,479
» I mean that's a good point. These are

3564
02:33:50,479 --> 02:33:51,920
also summaries.

3565
02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:53,439
>> Yeah. These are not like all the

3566
02:33:53,439 --> 02:33:56,240
details. So, so in a particular family,

3567
02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:59,040
if you have a certain need and you need

3568
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:00,640
to research it and come back with

3569
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:02,880
feedback, it's like this is a small

3570
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:06,160
community. This is like

3571
02:34:06,160 --> 02:34:07,600
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. If we can

3572
02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:09,040
narrow it down, we can get greater

3573
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:10,560
details and we can

3574
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:11,840
>> it's already narrowed down. It's only

3575
02:34:11,840 --> 02:34:13,840
three pages,

3576
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:15,200
>> but we don't want the employees to have

3577
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:17,760
to go through 20 options. we can trim it

3578
02:34:17,760 --> 02:34:18,800
down to the things we know that are

3579
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:20,880
comparable and then ask for more

3580
02:34:20,880 --> 02:34:22,240
information then present.

3581
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,319
>> I mean in my opinion in my opinion the

3582
02:34:24,319 --> 02:34:26,960
chart is very is is is presented in a

3583
02:34:26,960 --> 02:34:28,399
very reasonable way. It's understood

3584
02:34:28,399 --> 02:34:30,160
what the current plan is and what the

3585
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:31,760
other options are and it would be good

3586
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:34,560
to get feedback and then make a decision

3587
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:36,479
knowing the feedback of who it's

3588
02:34:36,479 --> 02:34:37,200
affecting.

3589
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:39,120
>> Okay. So why don't we do both of those

3590
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,359
things then we can send this entire

3591
02:34:41,359 --> 02:34:44,160
thing to the employees and to the union

3592
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:46,880
to get their feedback and perhaps we can

3593
02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:48,960
narrow down for our own thinking and get

3594
02:34:48,960 --> 02:34:52,560
from our health insurance broker um some

3595
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:54,479
more specifics. You know what I think

3596
02:34:54,479 --> 02:34:56,000
would be reasonable to your point,

3597
02:34:56,000 --> 02:34:59,840
Robert, is to say to to have a an an

3598
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:02,640
intro when you send this to say, "Here

3599
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:06,240
is our opinion that this looks like the

3600
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:08,560
same coverage that you're getting, but

3601
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:13,190
here are the options that are available.

3602
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:15,920
What do you think?"

3603
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:17,520
Okay.

3604
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:22,319
Um, so on United Healthcare, the uh one

3605
02:35:22,319 --> 02:35:25,040
the only one that I see that looks

3606
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:29,120
comparable would be the silver

3607
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,520
EP3Z, but we'd want to get more

3608
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:35,120
information from our healthcare broker.

3609
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:38,319
Um, I did discuss with her. She

3610
02:35:38,319 --> 02:35:40,880
mentioned that United Health Care is

3611
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:44,080
making an aggressive play for the region

3612
02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:47,680
and is coming in with um some really

3613
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:51,280
good rates. Um but yes, we would want to

3614
02:35:51,280 --> 02:35:53,760
understand who covers United Healthcare

3615
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:56,000
before we were going to go ahead and

3616
02:35:56,000 --> 02:35:59,680
make that switch. Okay.

3617
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:04,800
So, uh, on this page, um, others there

3618
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:08,080
are smaller co-pays,

3619
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:10,399
but it doesn't look comparable to me.

3620
02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:15,040
So, so far, unless you all disagree, the

3621
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:17,359
only ones that I see worthy of further

3622
02:36:17,359 --> 02:36:20,160
explanation uh exploration of the bronze

3623
02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:25,030
six and the

3624
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:29,439
uh silver choice open access

3625
02:36:29,439 --> 02:36:32,399
we'd want to get more information on or

3626
02:36:32,399 --> 02:36:37,270
comparable. And then on our third page

3627
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:40,479
would be the CDPHP which was the one we

3628
02:36:40,479 --> 02:36:44,550
did have previously

3629
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:47,840
100% coverage.

3630
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:49,600
>> So are we agreeing that we could send

3631
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:51,600
this these three pages and highlight

3632
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:53,520
those plans that you just mentioned and

3633
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:54,720
say

3634
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,160
>> well I don't think we're finished going

3635
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:58,240
over them yet Christine

3636
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:00,000
>> that's fine but I want to agree on what

3637
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,800
we're doing. Okay, let's get through

3638
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:04,399
this and then we'll agree on what we're

3639
02:37:04,399 --> 02:37:07,439
doing. Okay. Um, this will be the third

3640
02:37:07,439 --> 02:37:08,640
one.

3641
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:11,040
>> Oh, shoot.

3642
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,040
Is the CDPH

3643
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:15,040
plan

3644
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:17,760
EPO,

3645
02:37:17,760 --> 02:37:20,319
right? 100% coverage,

3646
02:37:20,319 --> 02:37:25,760
higher annual deductible. So, but there

3647
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:27,760
I'm not sure there's a lot of savings to

3648
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:35,190
be had.

3649
02:37:35,200 --> 02:37:37,280
But these things, Robert, these things

3650
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:39,359
are these are summaries and these depend

3651
02:37:39,359 --> 02:37:41,760
on like you got to really go through the

3652
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:44,800
details of what's of what's covered. It

3653
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:46,880
it's very complicated and and and it

3654
02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:48,479
can't be simplified in a chart. And I

3655
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:51,359
think that our best move is to highlight

3656
02:37:51,359 --> 02:37:53,520
a few of them and say this is this is

3657
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:55,600
our best assessment based on the summary

3658
02:37:55,600 --> 02:37:56,960
that we're looking at.

3659
02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:58,399
>> Christina, I think you've made that

3660
02:37:58,399 --> 02:37:59,439
point.

3661
02:37:59,439 --> 02:38:01,359
I I I think you've already made that

3662
02:38:01,359 --> 02:38:04,960
point and and we can entertain that to

3663
02:38:04,960 --> 02:38:06,880
send it and highlight the three. I think

3664
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:08,560
I've reiterated that that would be

3665
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:11,200
advisable. If we want to send all all of

3666
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:14,160
the plans to them to look at even though

3667
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:16,319
many of them aren't comparable coverage,

3668
02:38:16,319 --> 02:38:18,800
we can do that. But I think we need to

3669
02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:21,439
narrow down for our benefit what we want

3670
02:38:21,439 --> 02:38:23,920
to get additional information on because

3671
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:25,439
I don't want to get additional

3672
02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:28,240
information on you know whatever this is

3673
02:38:28,240 --> 02:38:30,479
20 different plans or 15 different

3674
02:38:30,479 --> 02:38:33,120
plans. It's too much wasted time. I

3675
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:35,040
don't need to know the details of a plan

3676
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:36,479
that doesn't provide them the

3677
02:38:36,479 --> 02:38:39,840
appropriate coverage.

3678
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:44,479
So with that being said, can we uh is do

3679
02:38:44,479 --> 02:38:46,720
those three make sense for further

3680
02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:50,080
exploration or compare our existing?

3681
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:51,359
>> So you're saying so you're saying the

3682
02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:53,280
silvery so the existing is the

3683
02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:55,840
highlighted blue which is which you're

3684
02:38:55,840 --> 02:38:58,479
saying next to that the renewal plan cuz

3685
02:38:58,479 --> 02:39:00,640
the current plan doesn't exist anymore.

3686
02:39:00,640 --> 02:39:02,960
The the one that's highlighted in blue.

3687
02:39:02,960 --> 02:39:04,960
So we're saying the comparable renewal

3688
02:39:04,960 --> 02:39:08,479
plan is the one to the directly to the

3689
02:39:08,479 --> 02:39:09,840
right of that.

3690
02:39:09,840 --> 02:39:13,439
>> That is the existing plan. Each year you

3691
02:39:13,439 --> 02:39:15,200
find that there are changes like the

3692
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:18,720
deductible amount has gone up um as it

3693
02:39:18,720 --> 02:39:21,600
often does each year. That is the same

3694
02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:22,319
plan.

3695
02:39:22,319 --> 02:39:24,399
>> The most comparable plan, but it's not

3696
02:39:24,399 --> 02:39:27,680
the same plan.

3697
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:28,319
That is

3698
02:39:28,319 --> 02:39:30,319
>> it has the same name silver eight but

3699
02:39:30,319 --> 02:39:32,319
it's not it's not the same

3700
02:39:32,319 --> 02:39:33,680
>> right.

3701
02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:34,800
>> So you're saying you're saying

3702
02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:35,760
>> this year's iteration

3703
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:36,960
>> this year's silver eight.

3704
02:39:36,960 --> 02:39:37,439
>> Yes.

3705
02:39:37,439 --> 02:39:40,080
>> You said this year's bronze six and what

3706
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:42,399
was the third one?

3707
02:39:42,399 --> 02:39:47,760
>> Uh the bronze 6 and then the only one

3708
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:50,960
with United Healthcare that looked

3709
02:39:50,960 --> 02:39:54,399
somewhat comparable

3710
02:39:54,399 --> 02:39:57,520
>> is the EP3Z.

3711
02:39:57,520 --> 02:39:59,760
Silver.

3712
02:39:59,760 --> 02:40:01,920
>> Uh,

3713
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:04,720
sorry.

3714
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:07,280
>> No. Was the silver choice open access?

3715
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:07,920
>> Yeah.

3716
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:09,920
>> Also highlighted dark flow.

3717
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:11,359
>> It's EP3Z,

3718
02:40:11,359 --> 02:40:11,760
>> right?

3719
02:40:11,760 --> 02:40:14,560
>> Open access. And and and why that one

3720
02:40:14,560 --> 02:40:19,439
versus versus the uh the other United?

3721
02:40:19,439 --> 02:40:20,800
>> It's the only one that's comparable that

3722
02:40:20,800 --> 02:40:21,920
has the coverage after deduction.

3723
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:23,280
>> It has the 100%

3724
02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:24,960
>> after.

3725
02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:26,240
>> Got it. Okay. Right,

3726
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:27,359
>> that makes sense.

3727
02:40:27,359 --> 02:40:32,080
>> Okay, so we would do um that one, that

3728
02:40:32,080 --> 02:40:34,640
one, and then the last one would be the

3729
02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:38,399
CDPHP one. Also highlighted blue. I

3730
02:40:38,399 --> 02:40:40,240
imagine that's why they highlighted that

3731
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:42,399
dark photos. They wanted to highlight

3732
02:40:42,399 --> 02:40:46,240
for us that these look

3733
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:47,520
comparable.

3734
02:40:47,520 --> 02:40:50,080
>> So you're So you're So primarily what

3735
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:52,319
you're after is 100% after deductible

3736
02:40:52,319 --> 02:40:54,479
because the town covers the deductible.

3737
02:40:54,479 --> 02:40:56,080
>> That's right. So we would like to

3738
02:40:56,080 --> 02:40:59,359
provide them with that important cover,

3739
02:40:59,359 --> 02:41:04,870
take away some of the surprises.

3740
02:41:04,880 --> 02:41:06,000
They would know and

3741
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,479
>> I I I think that makes sense. I I I

3742
02:41:08,479 --> 02:41:10,000
still would present them with the whole

3743
02:41:10,000 --> 02:41:12,080
chart because I I think it's important.

3744
02:41:12,080 --> 02:41:18,150
>> I think we can do that.

3745
02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:20,000
» Okay.

3746
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:23,200
Um, any others that we should ask for

3747
02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:27,110
more drill down on?

3748
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:29,040
» No, I don't think so.

3749
02:41:29,040 --> 02:41:30,960
>> Okay. So, I'd like to make a motion that

3750
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:34,160
we go ahead and uh ask of our insurance

3751
02:41:34,160 --> 02:41:36,800
broker to contrast those four plans to

3752
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:41,359
pass on the uh uh menu that they

3753
02:41:41,359 --> 02:41:44,560
initially provided to both uh the union

3754
02:41:44,560 --> 02:41:47,200
and the employees to take a look at. And

3755
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,200
then once we get the information on the

3756
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:52,800
contract back from our uh health

3757
02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:55,120
insurance brokers that we could also

3758
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:57,680
then provide that to both the union and

3759
02:41:57,680 --> 02:42:00,240
the employees so they can take a look at

3760
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:02,080
and then we should be prepared on our

3761
02:42:02,080 --> 02:42:05,439
January 28th meeting. you know, if we

3762
02:42:05,439 --> 02:42:07,920
can to make a decision. Um, we'll

3763
02:42:07,920 --> 02:42:11,840
receive that input on which plan, maybe

3764
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:14,319
we could run some

3765
02:42:14,319 --> 02:42:17,040
scenarios so that, uh, folks can get a

3766
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:18,960
sense of what the implications are

3767
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:22,080
because I think as Teresa alluded to, we

3768
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:23,520
want to make sure that they're not just

3769
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:26,880
running in place, um, when they get an

3770
02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:30,960
increase in their salary. Um and then

3771
02:42:30,960 --> 02:42:33,840
the health insurance increase eats most

3772
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:38,160
if not all of that up. Um that said that

3773
02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:41,600
um certain employees that have overtime

3774
02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:45,920
in 2025 and and uh ongoing

3775
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:49,840
um have benefited from that uh provision

3776
02:42:49,840 --> 02:42:53,359
in the tax code that does not tax uh

3777
02:42:53,359 --> 02:42:58,479
over time. So, um there is thankfully um

3778
02:42:58,479 --> 02:43:01,439
that to help offset

3779
02:43:01,439 --> 02:43:03,120
as well.

3780
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:06,640
>> Okay. Um sound like the plan.

3781
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:07,520
>> Yes.

3782
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:10,479
>> Okay.

3783
02:43:10,479 --> 02:43:12,880
>> Yep. [cough and clears throat]

3784
02:43:12,880 --> 02:43:14,800
>> All right. Let's go on.

3785
02:43:14,800 --> 02:43:15,840
>> You made a motion.

3786
02:43:15,840 --> 02:43:18,080
>> Well, I I made a motion. Yeah. Let's go

3787
02:43:18,080 --> 02:43:21,280
ahead and move to do so.

3788
02:43:21,280 --> 02:43:22,479
>> But we're not actually It's not actually

3789
02:43:22,479 --> 02:43:24,000
a motion. We're We're not deciding

3790
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:26,560
anything. We're just We're just

3791
02:43:26,560 --> 02:43:27,760
>> sort of being clear with the public that

3792
02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:29,680
we're doing.

3793
02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:30,560
That's all.

3794
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:32,800
>> Sure. Okay.

3795
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:36,080
>> Should we do an all in favor of that?

3796
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:38,080
>> All in favor?

3797
02:43:38,080 --> 02:43:41,590
>> I

3798
02:43:41,600 --> 02:43:48,630
thank you. Um

3799
02:43:48,640 --> 02:43:50,880
got a couple of article seven

3800
02:43:50,880 --> 02:43:53,279
resolutions.

3801
02:43:53,279 --> 02:43:56,000
Um let's go back to annual reorgarch. So

3802
02:43:56,000 --> 02:43:58,479
tonight what I would hope we could

3803
02:43:58,479 --> 02:44:02,960
accomplish is to assign

3804
02:44:02,960 --> 02:44:07,040
um the le liaison roles [clears throat]

3805
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:14,150
uh for the various board members to

3806
02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:18,710
the departments of the committees.

3807
02:44:18,720 --> 02:44:22,399
And then the next step is for

3808
02:44:22,399 --> 02:44:24,640
uh that liaison to reach out to the

3809
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:27,840
committee chairs and ask them to reach

3810
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:30,000
out to their members to see who's

3811
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:33,359
interested in staying on um in the

3812
02:44:33,359 --> 02:44:35,359
committee and then we can publish once

3813
02:44:35,359 --> 02:44:37,439
we get those findings we can publish the

3814
02:44:37,439 --> 02:44:40,960
vacancies and then people can send their

3815
02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:43,760
email of interest to the town clerk's

3816
02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:47,359
office and uh typically what happens is

3817
02:44:47,359 --> 02:44:50,240
an interested an individual meets then

3818
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:52,720
with the chairperson of that committee

3819
02:44:52,720 --> 02:44:55,120
and they discuss what you know what the

3820
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:56,800
committees are like and whether they're

3821
02:44:56,800 --> 02:44:59,520
interested and we get a recommendation

3822
02:44:59,520 --> 02:45:03,120
from the chair of that uh board or

3823
02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:07,680
committee to include them um as a member

3824
02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:09,920
>> I'm going to just interrupt for a moment

3825
02:45:09,920 --> 02:45:11,279
I'm going to be leaving Thank you

3826
02:45:11,279 --> 02:45:14,000
everyone I left two copies of the 284

3827
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:15,840
agreement with Deanna

3828
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:18,000
>> and if you sign tonight then I'll come

3829
02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:20,000
into the office tomorrow and get it and

3830
02:45:20,000 --> 02:45:22,000
sign it and do what we need to do with

3831
02:45:22,000 --> 02:45:25,359
the copies. But thank you very much

3832
02:45:25,359 --> 02:45:26,479
>> Teresa.

3833
02:45:26,479 --> 02:45:33,750
>> Okay. Um

3834
02:45:33,760 --> 02:45:36,560
so town board appointments. This is a

3835
02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:40,560
draft dated on the 9th. Um this draft

3836
02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:44,640
includes the previous council members um

3837
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:47,600
emergency interim successors. Uh

3838
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:49,520
typically the supervisor, highway

3839
02:45:49,520 --> 02:45:51,680
superintendent. [clears throat] Um and

3840
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:56,240
then it was three uh town board members.

3841
02:45:56,240 --> 02:45:59,600
Uh Bill as deputy supervisor be

3842
02:45:59,600 --> 02:46:01,920
appropriate that you be there. Jacob,

3843
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:04,080
anybody else want to be an emergency

3844
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:08,710
inter room successor?

3845
02:46:08,720 --> 02:46:10,319
So, you know, Kenny.

3846
02:46:10,319 --> 02:46:13,040
>> Yeah.

3847
02:46:13,040 --> 02:46:16,399
>> Okay. So, let's uh put Kenny in that

3848
02:46:16,399 --> 02:46:19,120
space if that works.

3849
02:46:19,120 --> 02:46:21,279
All right.

3850
02:46:21,279 --> 02:46:24,710
Um

3851
02:46:24,720 --> 02:46:29,520
All right. The date we have for Cheryl has been reappointed probably

3852
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:34,950
should reflect 2031

3853
02:46:34,960 --> 02:46:36,240
on this draft.

3854
02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:39,680
>> Yeah. Got it. Okay. Um, animal control,

3855
02:46:39,680 --> 02:46:41,840
dog control officer. We had Patricia

3856
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:44,000
who's our dog control officer. Now we

3857
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:47,520
had two in that role. We now have one.

3858
02:46:47,520 --> 02:46:49,170
That's a change from previously.

3859
02:46:49,170 --> 02:46:50,640
[clears throat]

3860
02:46:50,640 --> 02:46:52,880
Um, the supervisor's appointment. So,

3861
02:46:52,880 --> 02:46:54,880
there are appointments that only count

3862
02:46:54,880 --> 02:46:56,720
clerks make and appointments that only

3863
02:46:56,720 --> 02:47:00,160
supervisors make. Um,

3864
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:02,880
the deputy supervisor is Bill Hamill. It

3865
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:05,439
says budget officer and myself, but it's

3866
02:47:05,439 --> 02:47:07,279
not really appointment. I don't appoint

3867
02:47:07,279 --> 02:47:10,160
myself. I I am the budget officer unless

3868
02:47:10,160 --> 02:47:12,240
I appoint somebody else, but that

3869
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:15,040
doesn't stay there. It makes no matter.

3870
02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:18,800
Um secretary part-time Kathleen Flood,

3871
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:21,040
town historian, or as I like to tease

3872
02:47:21,040 --> 02:47:24,800
her, town hertorian, Emily Major, who um

3873
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:29,200
is also the village of Tivoli Mayor.

3874
02:47:29,200 --> 02:47:31,600
>> Um town clerk's appointments. Any

3875
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:35,040
changes there? Deanna. Okay.

3876
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:37,120
um highway superintendent appointments.

3877
02:47:37,120 --> 02:47:40,479
I asked the Teresa I know she's left but

3878
02:47:40,479 --> 02:47:44,479
um she's uh appointing again for 2026

3879
02:47:44,479 --> 02:47:47,760
John Gardner as deputy. Um other town

3880
02:47:47,760 --> 02:47:49,279
employees are listed [clears throat]

3881
02:47:49,279 --> 02:47:52,399
here. Uh we made uh changes to the strap

3882
02:47:52,399 --> 02:47:54,560
just based upon the maintenance and

3883
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:59,670
grounds for crew

3884
02:47:59,680 --> 02:48:02,800
contracts and consultants. Um, there's a

3885
02:48:02,800 --> 02:48:09,269
new name.

3886
02:48:09,279 --> 02:48:12,080
I think it's official. Uh, Professional

3887
02:48:12,080 --> 02:48:13,680
Computer Associates will want to make

3888
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:15,840
the change. Uh, Deanna, maybe on this

3889
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:18,160
list at our next meeting. I think it's

3890
02:48:18,160 --> 02:48:19,200
in

3891
02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:20,560
>> Yeah, I don't know how to spell it.

3892
02:48:20,560 --> 02:48:22,720
>> GX or something like that.

3893
02:48:22,720 --> 02:48:23,920
>> Yeah, I don't know how to spell it. I'll

3894
02:48:23,920 --> 02:48:24,479
have to

3895
02:48:24,479 --> 02:48:28,160
>> Did PCA change believe so they bought

3896
02:48:28,160 --> 02:48:28,560
it?

3897
02:48:28,560 --> 02:48:30,960
>> The name of it. It's a new company name.

3898
02:48:30,960 --> 02:48:32,880
Oh, okay.

3899
02:48:32,880 --> 02:48:37,120
>> I think had or had or having or had a

3900
02:48:37,120 --> 02:48:38,720
replic

3901
02:48:38,720 --> 02:48:42,560
um town CPA, custodial services, police

3902
02:48:42,560 --> 02:48:44,399
and court attendants, that's all the

3903
02:48:44,399 --> 02:48:49,439
same. Um there's a notation from 2014. A

3904
02:48:49,439 --> 02:48:52,240
lot of the

3905
02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:55,680
protocols are based upon

3906
02:48:55,680 --> 02:48:57,279
historic.

3907
02:48:57,279 --> 02:48:59,279
Um we have the meetings. We've discussed

3908
02:48:59,279 --> 02:49:02,160
that and uh we'll continue to discuss

3909
02:49:02,160 --> 02:49:05,200
that monthly and annual reports to the

3910
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:07,760
town board, heads and committee chairs,

3911
02:49:07,760 --> 02:49:10,720
minutes report. Um like to get them the

3912
02:49:10,720 --> 02:49:12,800
noon before Friday so we can put them in

3913
02:49:12,800 --> 02:49:17,120
the packet doesn't always happen. Um

3914
02:49:17,120 --> 02:49:19,760
there's annual reports by recognition

3915
02:49:19,760 --> 02:49:23,110
and the CAC

3916
02:49:23,120 --> 02:49:26,080
town board organizational responsibility

3917
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:28,399
that's the uh chain

3918
02:49:28,399 --> 02:49:31,680
If you will

3919
02:49:31,680 --> 02:49:34,000
stop me if uh you have any questions

3920
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:37,279
mileage that's the IRS rate town

3921
02:49:37,279 --> 02:49:41,439
department head deputy supervisor town

3922
02:49:41,439 --> 02:49:43,840
board.

3923
02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:48,800
>> So here we go to our alias on roles. Um

3924
02:49:48,800 --> 02:49:50,800
>> wasn't Christine on planning board or

3925
02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:52,080
was that you Bill?

3926
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:53,279
>> We both were.

3927
02:49:53,279 --> 02:49:53,840
>> Okay.

3928
02:49:53,840 --> 02:49:56,160
>> So when she dropped off I I took it.

3929
02:49:56,160 --> 02:49:57,760
>> I see. Okay. Um,

3930
02:49:57,760 --> 02:50:00,240
>> can can we just go in in the order that

3931
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:02,240
it's on the list, please?

3932
02:50:02,240 --> 02:50:06,319
>> Um, animal control uh, Bill, uh, you

3933
02:50:06,319 --> 02:50:09,120
you've been very kind to do animal

3934
02:50:09,120 --> 02:50:10,399
control all these

3935
02:50:10,399 --> 02:50:11,520
>> for six years.

3936
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:14,560
>> Is that how long? Six years. Okay.

3937
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:16,640
>> Um, are you willing to stay on doing

3938
02:50:16,640 --> 02:50:16,960
that?

3939
02:50:16,960 --> 02:50:18,560
>> I would prefer not to.

3940
02:50:18,560 --> 02:50:19,200
>> Okay.

3941
02:50:19,200 --> 02:50:20,720
>> Yeah.

3942
02:50:20,720 --> 02:50:22,160
>> What kind of animals?

3943
02:50:22,160 --> 02:50:25,840
>> Just dogs. So, just it's just dogs.

3944
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:27,840
by law they call animal control.

3945
02:50:27,840 --> 02:50:28,880
>> Occasionally there's something else in

3946
02:50:28,880 --> 02:50:30,399
the report. It's mostly dogs.

3947
02:50:30,399 --> 02:50:32,319
>> And and when the contract was with the

3948
02:50:32,319 --> 02:50:35,920
SPCA, it truly was all animals.

3949
02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:38,960
>> But by law, we only are responsible for

3950
02:50:38,960 --> 02:50:40,800
dogs because we licensed them.

3951
02:50:40,800 --> 02:50:41,279
>> Okay.

3952
02:50:41,279 --> 02:50:44,640
>> Um but the issue was when the SPCA about

3953
02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:47,680
two and a half years ago decided they

3954
02:50:47,680 --> 02:50:49,279
were no longer going to do animal

3955
02:50:49,279 --> 02:50:52,399
control for anybody in Duchess County. A

3956
02:50:52,399 --> 02:50:54,800
lot of a lot of towns got uh were left

3957
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:56,720
flatfooted.

3958
02:50:56,720 --> 02:50:58,560
We all had to figure out a way to stand

3959
02:50:58,560 --> 02:51:01,279
up the dog control situation. So, we

3960
02:51:01,279 --> 02:51:03,680
partnered with Reinbeck

3961
02:51:03,680 --> 02:51:06,160
to not just have animal control

3962
02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:07,359
officers, but they actually have a

3963
02:51:07,359 --> 02:51:10,479
kennel at their highway department.

3964
02:51:10,479 --> 02:51:14,399
And so, we partnering isn't technically

3965
02:51:14,399 --> 02:51:16,399
legally the right way to describe it,

3966
02:51:16,399 --> 02:51:19,040
but we because we share the same animal

3967
02:51:19,040 --> 02:51:21,439
control officer or dog control. It's a

3968
02:51:21,439 --> 02:51:24,000
DC, a dog control officer. And the dog

3969
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:25,600
control officer actually resides in

3970
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:27,359
Rankliffe.

3971
02:51:27,359 --> 02:51:29,600
Things have been and it's taken a while

3972
02:51:29,600 --> 02:51:31,760
to get up to speed, but we finally have

3973
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:33,439
a

3974
02:51:33,439 --> 02:51:35,920
um something in place that seems to be

3975
02:51:35,920 --> 02:51:37,840
working. There's still some things to

3976
02:51:37,840 --> 02:51:41,279
work out, but um it was a lot of work

3977
02:51:41,279 --> 02:51:44,160
getting it stood up and I'm

3978
02:51:44,160 --> 02:51:46,319
>> So you do a lot of you do a lot of

3979
02:51:46,319 --> 02:51:49,680
coordinating with the

3980
02:51:49,680 --> 02:51:51,520
>> the village police, right? Because a lot

3981
02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:53,520
of times they get the first call.

3982
02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:57,200
>> Yeah. Often often Pat's um staff are the

3983
02:51:57,200 --> 02:51:58,640
first ones on the scene and they pick up

3984
02:51:58,640 --> 02:52:01,200
the dog and they actually have the key,

3985
02:52:01,200 --> 02:52:03,439
the code to get into the kennel. So

3986
02:52:03,439 --> 02:52:04,880
sometimes they actually just bring the

3987
02:52:04,880 --> 02:52:07,200
dog to the kennel and then notify the

3988
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:08,960
dog control officer who then goes and

3989
02:52:08,960 --> 02:52:09,439
right

3990
02:52:09,439 --> 02:52:11,040
>> does what needs to be done.

3991
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:13,359
>> So you whoever does this would be

3992
02:52:13,359 --> 02:52:15,120
coordinating with that or at least be in

3993
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:16,080
touch with that.

3994
02:52:16,080 --> 02:52:19,120
>> So how much time does this take?

3995
02:52:19,120 --> 02:52:20,479
>> Well in the past

3996
02:52:20,479 --> 02:52:22,479
>> there's a lot sounded like a lot but

3997
02:52:22,479 --> 02:52:24,080
>> but now it's it's it's more under

3998
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:25,760
control and the only time that there's a

3999
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:28,319
situation um the dog control officers

4000
02:52:28,319 --> 02:52:29,680
getting up to speed I mean these are

4001
02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:31,200
people that never did it for a living

4002
02:52:31,200 --> 02:52:33,200
before but now they are. And so they're

4003
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:35,439
learning all the rules is we had an

4004
02:52:35,439 --> 02:52:38,399
unusual circumstance um that happened

4005
02:52:38,399 --> 02:52:40,880
recently in which there was a number of

4006
02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:43,680
dogs that all belong to one person

4007
02:52:43,680 --> 02:52:45,120
>> that got loose.

4008
02:52:45,120 --> 02:52:48,240
>> Um but

4009
02:52:48,240 --> 02:52:50,640
we worked it out and and the village PD

4010
02:52:50,640 --> 02:52:52,720
did a great job of helping get them

4011
02:52:52,720 --> 02:52:54,319
getting them coralled and taken to the

4012
02:52:54,319 --> 02:52:54,880
kennel,

4013
02:52:54,880 --> 02:52:55,359
>> right?

4014
02:52:55,359 --> 02:52:58,160
>> And then we worked on a project to find

4015
02:52:58,160 --> 02:53:00,960
a way to get them adopted out. So that

4016
02:53:00,960 --> 02:53:02,560
was an anomaly.

4017
02:53:02,560 --> 02:53:04,960
Um, you know, the issue that you get

4018
02:53:04,960 --> 02:53:08,080
calls on is we're only authorized to pay

4019
02:53:08,080 --> 02:53:10,479
a vet a certain amount of money and say

4020
02:53:10,479 --> 02:53:13,840
a dog was hit by a car and abandoned,

4021
02:53:13,840 --> 02:53:14,720
>> right?

4022
02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:16,319
>> You know, we still have an obligation to

4023
02:53:16,319 --> 02:53:19,840
pick up the dog and then make a decision

4024
02:53:19,840 --> 02:53:21,120
what we're going to do,

4025
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:22,240
>> right?

4026
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:23,520
>> It doesn't happen very often.

4027
02:53:23,520 --> 02:53:25,920
>> So, Patricia Wayne is the dog

4028
02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:27,040
>> is the dog control officer.

4029
02:53:27,040 --> 02:53:28,720
>> So, you're in contact with her?

4030
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:31,680
>> Yeah. She calls me when there's an

4031
02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:34,479
unusual circumstance and I can tell you

4032
02:53:34,479 --> 02:53:37,359
she has a lot more business south here

4033
02:53:37,359 --> 02:53:39,920
in Rinbeck than they than they do have

4034
02:53:39,920 --> 02:53:41,600
here. But but you occasionally get a

4035
02:53:41,600 --> 02:53:44,399
call um saying you know what do you

4036
02:53:44,399 --> 02:53:45,520
think about this?

4037
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:45,840
>> Okay.

4038
02:53:45,840 --> 02:53:47,120
>> And then there are some things that have

4039
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:49,600
to go to the supervisor um you know it's

4040
02:53:49,600 --> 02:53:52,080
an [snorts] emergency and you know do we

4041
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:54,720
take the dog to the hospital in Kingston

4042
02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:57,279
or does it have to be euthanized? I

4043
02:53:57,279 --> 02:53:59,200
mean, I had to make that decision once,

4044
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:00,000
>> right?

4045
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:03,600
>> So, um, but that it's infrequent.

4046
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:05,840
>> Um, and I'm I feel I'm setting up

4047
02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:07,359
myself.

4048
02:54:07,359 --> 02:54:09,200
>> Kenny, you you would be making a phone

4049
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:11,439
call to Pat. Maybe you have his number.

4050
02:54:11,439 --> 02:54:14,565
>> Yeah.

4051
02:54:14,575 --> 02:54:15,600
[laughter]

4052
02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:17,200
>> This may be an easy one.

4053
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:18,560
>> Yeah, I'll I'll take it on.

4054
02:54:18,560 --> 02:54:19,200
>> Okay.

4055
02:54:19,200 --> 02:54:20,240
>> Thank you, Kenny.

4056
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:21,840
>> But I wanted to be on some other ones.

4057
02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:24,399
>> Thank you. I'd end up adopting all of

4058
02:54:24,399 --> 02:54:26,640
them, so that's better.

4059
02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:27,439
Um,

4060
02:54:27,439 --> 02:54:29,120
>> and the like I got to tell you, the only

4061
02:54:29,120 --> 02:54:30,960
animals that I I'd like to have are the

4062
02:54:30,960 --> 02:54:33,279
ones you eat.

4063
02:54:33,279 --> 02:54:36,240
>> Okay.

4064
02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:38,160
>> I don't want any.

4065
02:54:38,160 --> 02:54:40,399
>> Not at this time. Maybe you want I don't

4066
02:54:40,399 --> 02:54:42,319
drive anymore.

4067
02:54:42,319 --> 02:54:43,040
>> Anyway,

4068
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:43,680
>> all right.

4069
02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:45,359
>> I appreciate that, Kenny, very much.

4070
02:54:45,359 --> 02:54:46,240
>> Yeah. Next.

4071
02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:48,640
>> And and I listen, I'm more than happy to

4072
02:54:48,640 --> 02:54:49,520
help you.

4073
02:54:49,520 --> 02:54:50,080
>> Okay.

4074
02:54:50,080 --> 02:54:52,160
>> Get acquainted to how this process

4075
02:54:52,160 --> 02:54:53,600
works.

4076
02:54:53,600 --> 02:54:57,439
>> Okay. Thank you. think you can um uh

4077
02:54:57,439 --> 02:54:59,920
assessor um you'll notice that the town

4078
02:54:59,920 --> 02:55:02,319
supervisor typically is the less on to a

4079
02:55:02,319 --> 02:55:04,960
lot of the positions that are in town

4080
02:55:04,960 --> 02:55:09,120
hall for obvious logistical reasons. Um

4081
02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:12,720
so was I have assessor attorney um I am

4082
02:55:12,720 --> 02:55:16,160
the leaders on the bark college um I

4083
02:55:16,160 --> 02:55:20,080
have you know been for many years now um

4084
02:55:20,080 --> 02:55:22,880
bookkeeper is a is actually a position

4085
02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:25,040
that is

4086
02:55:25,040 --> 02:55:28,319
for the town supervisor um building

4087
02:55:28,319 --> 02:55:30,160
inspector

4088
02:55:30,160 --> 02:55:31,279
um to build

4089
02:55:31,279 --> 02:55:33,520
>> I'm I'm happy to keep it or if somebody

4090
02:55:33,520 --> 02:55:35,200
else is interested

4091
02:55:35,200 --> 02:55:37,040
>> I'm happy to take I mean that's that's

4092
02:55:37,040 --> 02:55:39,359
in my wheelhouse So, Bill, I'm happy to

4093
02:55:39,359 --> 02:55:43,760
take it on if you if you want.

4094
02:55:43,760 --> 02:55:46,880
>> Yeah, it's actually a very um there's no

4095
02:55:46,880 --> 02:55:48,720
heavy lifting

4096
02:55:48,720 --> 02:55:50,479
uh to be that liaison. You get a the

4097
02:55:50,479 --> 02:55:51,840
only the only heavy lifting is the

4098
02:55:51,840 --> 02:55:53,359
report is the biggest report every month

4099
02:55:53,359 --> 02:55:54,720
that we get. It's like

4100
02:55:54,720 --> 02:55:56,160
>> a half an inch thick.

4101
02:55:56,160 --> 02:55:56,560
>> Okay.

4102
02:55:56,560 --> 02:55:59,279
>> Um but there's really [clears throat] um

4103
02:55:59,279 --> 02:56:02,319
not much. So, if you want, it's

4104
02:56:02,319 --> 02:56:03,920
important for the public to know and

4105
02:56:03,920 --> 02:56:05,760
certainly for our new town board members

4106
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:09,279
as well. There's a wall. There's a wall

4107
02:56:09,279 --> 02:56:10,720
between the boards. There's a wall

4108
02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:13,279
between the independent offices. That's

4109
02:56:13,279 --> 02:56:15,120
the assessor. That's the building

4110
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:17,760
department. There's the planning board.

4111
02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:20,000
There's the town clerk's office. There's

4112
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:21,920
the highway superintendent. They're all

4113
02:56:21,920 --> 02:56:25,760
independent uh offices. and um they have

4114
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:29,840
a role to play Korean uh fear of

4115
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:37,600
influence of of decision making. That's their their job to do. Um so, you

4116
02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:39,120
know, when it comes to building

4117
02:56:39,120 --> 02:56:41,680
inspector, when when you're liazing with

4118
02:56:41,680 --> 02:56:43,262
it, it's not you're not really

4119
02:56:43,262 --> 02:56:44,000
[clears throat]

4120
02:56:44,000 --> 02:56:46,000
um influencing anything that building

4121
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:48,000
inspector does. You're getting reports

4122
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:51,439
and seeing if they you know, you'll hear

4123
02:56:51,439 --> 02:56:52,640
and you'll hear from the building

4124
02:56:52,640 --> 02:56:54,560
department. We actually are now trying

4125
02:56:54,560 --> 02:56:56,240
to figure out a bigger space and

4126
02:56:56,240 --> 02:56:58,479
reconfiguring the town hall for example.

4127
02:56:58,479 --> 02:57:00,319
Those are the kind of liaison things.

4128
02:57:00,319 --> 02:57:02,399
They're not related to

4129
02:57:02,399 --> 02:57:04,000
>> but if you have questions if you have

4130
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:06,640
questions just send an email

4131
02:57:06,640 --> 02:57:08,960
or call and they'll be happy to happy to

4132
02:57:08,960 --> 02:57:09,279
do it.

4133
02:57:09,279 --> 02:57:10,880
>> So we'll make that change. Building

4134
02:57:10,880 --> 02:57:13,840
inspector Christine Duch

4135
02:57:13,840 --> 02:57:15,840
uh fire companies. I have been doing the

4136
02:57:15,840 --> 02:57:19,200
fire companies. Um I'm happy to do it.

4137
02:57:19,200 --> 02:57:21,920
um

4138
02:57:21,920 --> 02:57:24,080
would like to do it, continue to do it.

4139
02:57:24,080 --> 02:57:26,080
Um it's been a passion of mine. I think

4140
02:57:26,080 --> 02:57:29,279
I started out as a citizen

4141
02:57:29,279 --> 02:57:33,040
campaigning for the LOSA program in 2007

4142
02:57:33,040 --> 02:57:34,880
doing mailings because I felt so

4143
02:57:34,880 --> 02:57:38,160
strongly about our fire companies and I'

4144
02:57:38,160 --> 02:57:41,279
I'd be happy to continue that work. Um

4145
02:57:41,279 --> 02:57:43,279
highway Jacob

4146
02:57:43,279 --> 02:57:44,880
>> happy to continue doing it.

4147
02:57:44,880 --> 02:57:47,200
>> Okay.

4148
02:57:47,200 --> 02:57:49,200
Recycling

4149
02:57:49,200 --> 02:57:51,520
uh who could or could not continue with

4150
02:57:51,520 --> 02:57:53,439
that. What? Whatever. Anybody have a

4151
02:57:53,439 --> 02:57:55,040
strong passion for that? Well,

4152
02:57:55,040 --> 02:57:56,000
>> you were there a lot.

4153
02:57:56,000 --> 02:57:57,279
>> I'm there twice a week.

4154
02:57:57,279 --> 02:57:59,040
>> You want this? You want to change it?

4155
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:02,960
>> Yeah, I can take that. Um, you know, TJ

4156
02:58:02,960 --> 02:58:05,439
has traditionally come to me anyway.

4157
02:58:05,439 --> 02:58:06,319
>> Yeah, cuz you're there.

4158
02:58:06,319 --> 02:58:08,560
>> Cuz I'm there if there are issues, you

4159
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:10,479
know. So,

4160
02:58:10,479 --> 02:58:12,640
>> not on an operational basis. That's you

4161
02:58:12,640 --> 02:58:14,240
like if they have to close for weather

4162
02:58:14,240 --> 02:58:16,560
or whatever, but um

4163
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:18,560
>> on other issues. Yeah. Yeah.

4164
02:58:18,560 --> 02:58:20,800
>> Uh, Red Hook Central School District.

4165
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:22,640
No, I've already forgotten who was the

4166
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:25,200
le if it was Julie or Christine.

4167
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:27,120
>> I have a question on that one. And the

4168
02:58:27,120 --> 02:58:28,640
village of Red Hook,

4169
02:58:28,640 --> 02:58:31,760
>> are those do the liaison need to go to

4170
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:33,279
each meeting?

4171
02:58:33,279 --> 02:58:36,880
>> Um, so for these, no, but for the board

4172
02:58:36,880 --> 02:58:39,120
and committee ones, yes. But for these,

4173
02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:41,920
no. This is who's the person who is

4174
02:58:41,920 --> 02:58:45,279
going to help communicate between the

4175
02:58:45,279 --> 02:58:50,560
various uh entities in the community. So

4176
02:58:50,560 --> 02:58:52,319
um in answer to your question, no, but

4177
02:58:52,319 --> 02:58:55,279
there's no point of being the liaison if

4178
02:58:55,279 --> 02:58:57,520
you're if you're not engaging on some

4179
02:58:57,520 --> 02:58:59,600
level, right? Does that make sense?

4180
02:58:59,600 --> 02:59:00,000
>> Yeah.

4181
02:59:00,000 --> 02:59:01,680
>> Okay.

4182
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:07,200
>> I mean, if we're splitting this up, I I would prefer to do the village, but

4183
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:09,760
I'll do either. Um,

4184
02:59:09,760 --> 02:59:11,920
>> I mean there's like I mean I'm looking

4185
02:59:11,920 --> 02:59:13,200
at the list. We're

4186
02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:13,680
>> Yeah.

4187
02:59:13,680 --> 02:59:14,160
>> Right.

4188
02:59:14,160 --> 02:59:17,040
>> Yeah. Um,

4189
02:59:17,040 --> 02:59:19,200
anybody else wanted to develop?

4190
02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:20,000
>> Oh, right.

4191
02:59:20,000 --> 02:59:21,359
>> Yeah.

4192
02:59:21,359 --> 02:59:26,319
>> Okay. Uh, sure. Right. [snorts]

4193
02:59:26,319 --> 02:59:28,240
>> You want to do both?

4194
02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:31,359
>> I mean, I I'll do both.

4195
02:59:31,359 --> 02:59:33,563
>> Well, careful what you wish. I mean,

4196
02:59:33,563 --> 02:59:34,640
[laughter] the one thing I would say

4197
02:59:34,640 --> 02:59:36,960
>> I will do both. I will do both. Yeah.

4198
02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:38,240
>> I mean, the only thing I would say,

4199
02:59:38,240 --> 02:59:39,840
Christine, I don't I don't want to fight

4200
02:59:39,840 --> 02:59:42,160
you for this the the school district.

4201
02:59:42,160 --> 02:59:44,160
Um, but I am in monthly meetings with

4202
02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:44,800
them.

4203
02:59:44,800 --> 02:59:46,080
>> Yeah.

4204
02:59:46,080 --> 02:59:46,560
>> I'm happy.

4205
02:59:46,560 --> 02:59:48,479
>> Is that something you can do?

4206
02:59:48,479 --> 02:59:51,279
>> Um, if you're in monthly meetings with

4207
02:59:51,279 --> 02:59:53,359
them, then then you should probably do

4208
02:59:53,359 --> 02:59:53,680
it.

4209
02:59:53,680 --> 02:59:56,080
>> Okay. I was more looking at Kenny and

4210
02:59:56,080 --> 02:59:57,600
saying if like I don't want to I don't

4211
02:59:57,600 --> 03:00:01,279
want to cut him out, but I think

4212
03:00:01,279 --> 03:00:02,960
>> the village

4213
03:00:02,960 --> 03:00:05,200
>> we want to make sure Penny

4214
03:00:05,200 --> 03:00:07,600
>> gets lots. [clears throat]

4215
03:00:07,600 --> 03:00:09,600
>> Well, I've got three four on the bottom,

4216
03:00:09,600 --> 03:00:10,720
>> right? Okay.

4217
03:00:10,720 --> 03:00:11,120
>> Yep.

4218
03:00:11,120 --> 03:00:12,800
>> So, all right. So, I think we've

4219
03:00:12,800 --> 03:00:14,960
established Robert will do school

4220
03:00:14,960 --> 03:00:17,040
district. Christina will do village of

4221
03:00:17,040 --> 03:00:17,920
Red Hook.

4222
03:00:17,920 --> 03:00:18,479
>> Yes.

4223
03:00:18,479 --> 03:00:20,240
>> Okay. And you have a business in

4224
03:00:20,240 --> 03:00:23,200
village. That's great. Um, agriculture

4225
03:00:23,200 --> 03:00:26,800
and open space advisory board.

4226
03:00:26,800 --> 03:00:28,479
>> Yeah.

4227
03:00:28,479 --> 03:00:30,479
>> Kenny, do you have a background in

4228
03:00:30,479 --> 03:00:34,000
agriculture and open space? Okay. Uh,

4229
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:37,200
board of assessment review. Again, that

4230
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:40,479
has been me. Uh, board of ethics. Jacob,

4231
03:00:40,479 --> 03:00:42,000
you'll continue with that. You haven't

4232
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:45,439
continued with that. CPF PDR advisory

4233
03:00:45,439 --> 03:00:47,840
committee.

4234
03:00:47,840 --> 03:00:50,720
>> Okay. Anybody else want that? Okay.

4235
03:00:50,720 --> 03:00:52,240
Kenny, thank you.

4236
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:54,240
>> Um,

4237
03:00:54,240 --> 03:00:56,800
>> CAC, Jacob, you're doing that. Design

4238
03:00:56,800 --> 03:00:59,279
review is from time to time. Bill,

4239
03:00:59,279 --> 03:01:00,080
you've been doing

4240
03:01:00,080 --> 03:01:01,760
>> I've been doing it. They don't meet I

4241
03:01:01,760 --> 03:01:03,200
don't think I've they've had a meeting

4242
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:05,600
since I've been a while. They get

4243
03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:06,240
referred.

4244
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:07,840
>> They get an occasional referral.

4245
03:01:07,840 --> 03:01:10,720
>> Be nice if they meet, you know, once a

4246
03:01:10,720 --> 03:01:11,279
year.

4247
03:01:11,279 --> 03:01:12,640
>> I mean, I'll just say when we're going

4248
03:01:12,640 --> 03:01:14,720
down this list, the two that I would I

4249
03:01:14,720 --> 03:01:15,920
would have the most interested in would

4250
03:01:15,920 --> 03:01:18,800
be Design Review and LWRP.

4251
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:21,200
But I'm happy to fill in as needed.

4252
03:01:21,200 --> 03:01:24,479
>> Okay. Well, why don't we uh

4253
03:01:24,479 --> 03:01:27,279
>> Well, if you want design review, I I

4254
03:01:27,279 --> 03:01:28,160
don't have a problem.

4255
03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:29,520
>> Okay. Okay.

4256
03:01:29,520 --> 03:01:33,279
>> Um but because I'm the liazison for the

4257
03:01:33,279 --> 03:01:36,160
planning board, which is the LWRP.

4258
03:01:36,160 --> 03:01:36,880
>> True.

4259
03:01:36,880 --> 03:01:38,800
>> It it makes sense.

4260
03:01:38,800 --> 03:01:39,680
>> That does make sense

4261
03:01:39,680 --> 03:01:41,600
>> that I would do that. So, if you want if

4262
03:01:41,600 --> 03:01:42,960
you want design review.

4263
03:01:42,960 --> 03:01:44,000
>> Okay.

4264
03:01:44,000 --> 03:01:46,000
>> Um

4265
03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:48,160
>> Right. Okay. So can we make that

4266
03:01:48,160 --> 03:01:50,640
interesting for design review

4267
03:01:50,640 --> 03:01:53,920
>> disaster preparedness committee?

4268
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:54,560
>> Is that

4269
03:01:54,560 --> 03:01:56,319
>> we need to get that up and running

4270
03:01:56,319 --> 03:01:56,960
again?

4271
03:01:56,960 --> 03:02:00,160
>> Is that in case like an EMP hits and uh

4272
03:02:00,160 --> 03:02:02,479
you know we lose we lose power for like

4273
03:02:02,479 --> 03:02:03,920
two months.

4274
03:02:03,920 --> 03:02:04,800
>> We have issues with

4275
03:02:04,800 --> 03:02:06,800
>> anybody read the book one second after.

4276
03:02:06,800 --> 03:02:08,560
>> Yeah.

4277
03:02:08,560 --> 03:02:09,920
>> So

4278
03:02:09,920 --> 03:02:11,359
>> something to think about. Well, we're

4279
03:02:11,359 --> 03:02:12,880
talking about we're going to be talking

4280
03:02:12,880 --> 03:02:15,439
about battery storage best battery

4281
03:02:15,439 --> 03:02:20,319
energy, although it's not been a fun topic over in Nolster

4282
03:02:20,319 --> 03:02:24,160
right now and it's, you know, again

4283
03:02:24,160 --> 03:02:26,160
very sight specific. Um,

4284
03:02:26,160 --> 03:02:27,120
>> right.

4285
03:02:27,120 --> 03:02:32,870
>> So, uh,

4286
03:02:32,880 --> 03:02:34,720
disaster preparedness, we need to get

4287
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:36,560
that back up and running.

4288
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:37,600
>> I'll think about

4289
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:38,960
>> You'll think about Okay. Yeah. We don't

4290
03:02:38,960 --> 03:02:40,640
have to do this right this second. Okay.

4291
03:02:40,640 --> 03:02:41,439
>> As leaison.

4292
03:02:41,439 --> 03:02:44,640
>> So, yeah, as liaison. Yeah. Um, energy

4293
03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:48,560
committee. I want to stick with that.

4294
03:02:48,560 --> 03:02:50,560
We're still the only town I know that

4295
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:55,200
has the energy one

4296
03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:57,920
when I started.

4297
03:02:57,920 --> 03:03:00,960
Um, Greenway and Trails. Who was that?

4298
03:03:00,960 --> 03:03:01,840
Julia?

4299
03:03:01,840 --> 03:03:03,279
>> So, it was Christine. Okay.

4300
03:03:03,279 --> 03:03:05,040
>> Although I think the committee always

4301
03:03:05,040 --> 03:03:06,399
emailed me because they thought that I

4302
03:03:06,399 --> 03:03:08,080
was the

4303
03:03:08,080 --> 03:03:09,680
>> and I'm happy to take it on. Um,

4304
03:03:09,680 --> 03:03:10,160
>> okay.

4305
03:03:10,160 --> 03:03:12,160
>> You know, I've attended a meeting before

4306
03:03:12,160 --> 03:03:12,479
and

4307
03:03:12,479 --> 03:03:14,000
>> Okay. You guys work well with that.

4308
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:16,240
>> I I attended a few meetings also.

4309
03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:17,680
>> Okay.

4310
03:03:17,680 --> 03:03:25,439
>> Um, well, what? Uh, Jacob, can we can we

4311
03:03:25,439 --> 03:03:26,319
scissors?

4312
03:03:26,319 --> 03:03:27,760
>> Yeah. You guys want to rock, paper,

4313
03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:28,720
scissors, Jacob?

4314
03:03:28,720 --> 03:03:29,920
>> And Kenny, do you feel really strongly

4315
03:03:29,920 --> 03:03:32,479
that you want to do it? You're welcome.

4316
03:03:32,479 --> 03:03:34,800
>> About trails, screaming trails. Okay.

4317
03:03:34,800 --> 03:03:36,560
Yeah, [laughter]

4318
03:03:36,560 --> 03:03:37,520
>> I'm happy to do it as well,

4319
03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:39,520
>> but I might I might go to those.

4320
03:03:39,520 --> 03:03:41,439
>> Yeah, and I think that's a good point.

4321
03:03:41,439 --> 03:03:42,960
We're all welcome to I mean, it's nice

4322
03:03:42,960 --> 03:03:44,160
to attend these meetings even if you're

4323
03:03:44,160 --> 03:03:45,920
not the leazison just to get to know

4324
03:03:45,920 --> 03:03:46,960
what they're working on.

4325
03:03:46,960 --> 03:03:48,800
>> I just want to remind you some of you

4326
03:03:48,800 --> 03:03:51,040
mentioned good nights and bad nights.

4327
03:03:51,040 --> 03:03:52,720
There's a lot of nights on your calendar

4328
03:03:52,720 --> 03:03:55,520
that are filling up right now with with

4329
03:03:55,520 --> 03:03:58,319
your yes uh indications.

4330
03:03:58,319 --> 03:04:01,120
>> Um

4331
03:04:01,120 --> 03:04:03,040
housing checkup, you going to stick with

4332
03:04:03,040 --> 03:04:05,359
that? Okay, Bill, you've already asked

4333
03:04:05,359 --> 03:04:08,479
for LWRP and your rationale for that.

4334
03:04:08,479 --> 03:04:11,359
Fine. Planning board bill. Uh,

4335
03:04:11,359 --> 03:04:13,680
recreation committee. Yes, I'm here with

4336
03:04:13,680 --> 03:04:17,120
the rec director every day. Uh, Red

4337
03:04:17,120 --> 03:04:19,200
Church Cemetery Committee, that's sort

4338
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:21,200
of a once in a blue moon, although we

4339
03:04:21,200 --> 03:04:24,640
will be hopefully um doing some events.

4340
03:04:24,640 --> 03:04:29,279
Uh, it's uh Rev 250, 250th anniversary.

4341
03:04:29,279 --> 03:04:32,640
There is no more

4342
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:34,720
um

4343
03:04:34,720 --> 03:04:37,520
struggling for words but primitive

4344
03:04:37,520 --> 03:04:39,040
church

4345
03:04:39,040 --> 03:04:42,080
in our immediate area than the beautiful

4346
03:04:42,080 --> 03:04:44,240
red church.

4347
03:04:44,240 --> 03:04:45,359
We have civil

4348
03:04:45,359 --> 03:04:46,640
>> revolutionary war

4349
03:04:46,640 --> 03:04:49,600
>> and we have warrior

4350
03:04:49,600 --> 03:04:52,160
>> I think what did they identify 13

4351
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:53,920
>> I think it was 14

4352
03:04:53,920 --> 03:04:55,680
>> was it [clears throat]

4353
03:04:55,680 --> 03:04:58,000
>> they're still identified

4354
03:04:58,000 --> 03:05:01,200
um okay uh

4355
03:05:01,200 --> 03:05:02,080
>> who's going to take

4356
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:04,000
>> I'm going to take that cuz I'm going to

4357
03:05:04,000 --> 03:05:05,920
have to coordinate events and all that

4358
03:05:05,920 --> 03:05:08,319
stuff and the schedules with John and

4359
03:05:08,319 --> 03:05:10,960
whatever that's okay I take that all

4360
03:05:10,960 --> 03:05:12,640
right

4361
03:05:12,640 --> 03:05:14,960
Jacob still speak for the trees.

4362
03:05:14,960 --> 03:05:15,520
>> Sure.

4363
03:05:15,520 --> 03:05:18,720
>> Okay. And then water and ZBA

4364
03:05:18,720 --> 03:05:21,920
bill you are existing here.

4365
03:05:21,920 --> 03:05:24,880
>> I know there's one um that's not on this

4366
03:05:24,880 --> 03:05:27,520
list that is below I think

4367
03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:29,359
>> um for the comp plan revision or the

4368
03:05:29,359 --> 03:05:30,479
comp plan uh

4369
03:05:30,479 --> 03:05:31,120
>> okay

4370
03:05:31,120 --> 03:05:34,000
>> committee and I talked to um Julia who

4371
03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:35,680
was the chair of that committee and I've

4372
03:05:35,680 --> 03:05:37,200
worked as leazison for the housing

4373
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:38,479
committee for the past few years.

4374
03:05:38,479 --> 03:05:38,960
>> Okay.

4375
03:05:38,960 --> 03:05:40,800
>> Um and she expressed interest in having

4376
03:05:40,800 --> 03:05:42,319
me as leazison for that committee.

4377
03:05:42,319 --> 03:05:44,800
>> Okay. Um, so I just wanted to put that

4378
03:05:44,800 --> 03:05:46,240
out there. It's something I'd be happy

4379
03:05:46,240 --> 03:05:48,319
to do. Um,

4380
03:05:48,319 --> 03:05:48,880
>> yeah.

4381
03:05:48,880 --> 03:05:51,040
>> Okay.

4382
03:05:51,040 --> 03:05:56,880
>> Um, I'm fine with that. Anybody else?

4383
03:05:56,880 --> 03:05:57,840
>> Bill, are you okay with that?

4384
03:05:57,840 --> 03:05:59,680
>> Yeah, I'm fine.

4385
03:05:59,680 --> 03:06:01,680
>> I mean, I was sitting in on those some

4386
03:06:01,680 --> 03:06:03,120
of those meetings also.

4387
03:06:03,120 --> 03:06:04,080
>> You still can.

4388
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:07,510
>> I will.

4389
03:06:07,520 --> 03:06:11,439
Christina. Yeah, I'm I making a a

4390
03:06:11,439 --> 03:06:13,840
deliberate point not to participate or

4391
03:06:13,840 --> 03:06:15,680
sit in any of those meetings. I don't

4392
03:06:15,680 --> 03:06:17,439
want to

4393
03:06:17,439 --> 03:06:20,160
>> I don't want to in any way, shape, or

4394
03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:23,200
form have any kind of, you know,

4395
03:06:23,200 --> 03:06:25,680
influence over how the recommendations

4396
03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:27,520
is. The whole point of it is to get the

4397
03:06:27,520 --> 03:06:30,240
public's input and to have that plan to

4398
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:31,680
be shaped because if you're an

4399
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:34,479
implementtor, the last thing uh you want

4400
03:06:34,479 --> 03:06:36,960
to do is be involved in the developing

4401
03:06:36,960 --> 03:06:40,080
of the plan. Um [clears throat]

4402
03:06:40,080 --> 03:06:42,399
we often say to people occasionally when

4403
03:06:42,399 --> 03:06:44,000
they come here and they say why are you

4404
03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,960
doing something? We say well because it

4405
03:06:46,960 --> 03:06:50,399
was in the adopted plan and so want to

4406
03:06:50,399 --> 03:06:52,800
be able to say that that plan is you

4407
03:06:52,800 --> 03:06:55,359
know free and

4408
03:06:55,359 --> 03:06:56,349
influence of the

4409
03:06:56,349 --> 03:06:57,279
[cough and clears throat] implementation

4410
03:06:57,279 --> 03:06:59,920
board and represents the public's

4411
03:06:59,920 --> 03:07:02,000
desire. Okay,

4412
03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:03,520
>> I'm not going to go through them all,

4413
03:07:03,520 --> 03:07:06,720
but anybody anybody [snorts] that's 26,

4414
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:08,800
they're still on.

4415
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:10,080
>> Okay. Um,

4416
03:07:10,080 --> 03:07:11,840
>> to those members and asking

4417
03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:13,920
>> the last thing we could get to, I I

4418
03:07:13,920 --> 03:07:15,520
don't want to be here too too late

4419
03:07:15,520 --> 03:07:17,040
tonight. We've heard about saying too

4420
03:07:17,040 --> 03:07:21,200
late, but can we do the layers on for um

4421
03:07:21,200 --> 03:07:23,200
the committees, excuse me, so that you

4422
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:24,960
can then reach out to the chair of those

4423
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:26,880
committees and ask the chair to reach

4424
03:07:26,880 --> 03:07:29,040
out to the members, right, as we

4425
03:07:29,040 --> 03:07:30,960
discussed and find out

4426
03:07:30,960 --> 03:07:33,840
where when vacancies exist. What we'll

4427
03:07:33,840 --> 03:07:36,240
do is in my office, we'll put together a

4428
03:07:36,240 --> 03:07:39,279
master list and we'll put a notice out

4429
03:07:39,279 --> 03:07:41,359
to the public. Here are the for the

4430
03:07:41,359 --> 03:07:42,960
vacancies if you're interested in

4431
03:07:42,960 --> 03:07:45,680
joining. Send your letter of interest

4432
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:49,520
which can be in the email for Okay. Uh

4433
03:07:49,520 --> 03:07:51,040
we did we already figured out

4434
03:07:51,040 --> 03:07:55,279
agriculture and open space system review

4435
03:07:55,279 --> 03:07:56,960
climate smart. Well, that's a task

4436
03:07:56,960 --> 03:07:59,600
force, right? Um, so I don't think we

4437
03:07:59,600 --> 03:08:02,319
need that CAC.

4438
03:08:02,319 --> 03:08:05,520
>> That's a subset of the CAC because it's

4439
03:08:05,520 --> 03:08:07,840
comp conservation design review. Is

4440
03:08:07,840 --> 03:08:12,319
there anything we haven't covered here?

4441
03:08:12,319 --> 03:08:14,960
No, I think that's it.

4442
03:08:14,960 --> 03:08:16,720
Okay.

4443
03:08:16,720 --> 03:08:20,160
So that's what we have for annual reorg.

4444
03:08:20,160 --> 03:08:24,080
Thank you all very much. Um we have uh

4445
03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:26,640
let me do other business

4446
03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:29,279
uh which is really correspondent. Um I

4447
03:08:29,279 --> 03:08:31,760
mentioned this earlier if you've been

4448
03:08:31,760 --> 03:08:34,160
following along the last three or four

4449
03:08:34,160 --> 03:08:39,680
years the town and the uh

4450
03:08:39,680 --> 03:08:43,200
other municipalities. Uh we're a member

4451
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:45,760
of the supervisors mayors association.

4452
03:08:45,760 --> 03:08:48,479
And we've lobbyed Albany uh and our

4453
03:08:48,479 --> 03:08:50,080
colleagues in Austin County and other

4454
03:08:50,080 --> 03:08:54,399
counties to have home rule uh ability to

4455
03:08:54,399 --> 03:08:56,319
lower speed limits in our own

4456
03:08:56,319 --> 03:08:59,760
municipality. Somehow in this home rule

4457
03:08:59,760 --> 03:09:02,560
state DOT decides the speed limit on

4458
03:09:02,560 --> 03:09:06,160
roads, small town roads. Um unless of

4459
03:09:06,160 --> 03:09:09,120
course you live within 15 miles of a

4460
03:09:09,120 --> 03:09:13,279
municipality with 50,000 time. It's it's

4461
03:09:13,279 --> 03:09:16,160
rather convoluted. But uh needless to

4462
03:09:16,160 --> 03:09:18,880
say, we were successful uh less than two

4463
03:09:18,880 --> 03:09:21,120
years ago in getting the legislature to

4464
03:09:21,120 --> 03:09:24,319
allow town road speed limits to go down

4465
03:09:24,319 --> 03:09:28,560
to 25. Um and again, I apologize if I'm

4466
03:09:28,560 --> 03:09:32,240
repeating myself. Um but back in the

4467
03:09:32,240 --> 03:09:34,880
1980s, the folks who sat at this table

4468
03:09:34,880 --> 03:09:37,760
said, "Let's raise the town speed limit

4469
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:40,319
to 35." And that's why the townwide

4470
03:09:40,319 --> 03:09:44,479
speed limit is 35 miles an hour. Um and

4471
03:09:44,479 --> 03:09:49,760
so um we have endeavored to try to lower

4472
03:09:49,760 --> 03:09:52,160
the speed limits in certain suburban

4473
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:54,720
subdivision neighborhoods. College Park,

4474
03:09:54,720 --> 03:09:57,520
Forest Park. We were successful. We made

4475
03:09:57,520 --> 03:10:00,560
some speed changes uh speed limit

4476
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:03,760
reductions with DOT's approval.

4477
03:10:03,760 --> 03:10:06,800
Everything is DOT approval. River Road

4478
03:10:06,800 --> 03:10:10,960
9G, a portion of that um Buds Corners.

4479
03:10:10,960 --> 03:10:12,399
We had the help of our county

4480
03:10:12,399 --> 03:10:15,439
legislature in that uh effort to slow

4481
03:10:15,439 --> 03:10:17,200
those speeds down there. That's a county

4482
03:10:17,200 --> 03:10:19,840
road. Um

4483
03:10:19,840 --> 03:10:24,160
so uh we uh positioned ourselves

4484
03:10:24,160 --> 03:10:26,960
um to go ahead and do a townwide

4485
03:10:26,960 --> 03:10:29,920
engineering study. um they are in the

4486
03:10:29,920 --> 03:10:34,160
middle of that and they will um uh send

4487
03:10:34,160 --> 03:10:37,120
us a list of classifications once they

4488
03:10:37,120 --> 03:10:40,399
get the data collected from the various

4489
03:10:40,399 --> 03:10:42,000
roadways. They won't do it during the

4490
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:43,920
winter because of snow for obvious

4491
03:10:43,920 --> 03:10:46,080
reasons and then they will make a

4492
03:10:46,080 --> 03:10:48,000
presentation to us on a draft

4493
03:10:48,000 --> 03:10:50,800
application which goes to DOT. Then

4494
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:54,160
their engineers review it um after we've

4495
03:10:54,160 --> 03:10:56,479
seen it and approved it and then they

4496
03:10:56,479 --> 03:11:00,399
make it a decision um on that town

4497
03:11:00,399 --> 03:11:03,760
lights application all to say to manage

4498
03:11:03,760 --> 03:11:06,399
expectations. You should look for us to

4499
03:11:06,399 --> 03:11:09,840
have a document summertime. you should

4500
03:11:09,840 --> 03:11:12,479
look for us to perhaps submit something

4501
03:11:12,479 --> 03:11:16,160
to the state late summer, early fall,

4502
03:11:16,160 --> 03:11:19,120
and then the state, which is probably

4503
03:11:19,120 --> 03:11:21,120
understaffed as it historically has

4504
03:11:21,120 --> 03:11:23,439
been, would then render a decision

4505
03:11:23,439 --> 03:11:27,760
sometime in 2027. So, I feel hopeful. I

4506
03:11:27,760 --> 03:11:30,720
always do. We have had enormous success

4507
03:11:30,720 --> 03:11:33,520
in efforts to reduce where people said

4508
03:11:33,520 --> 03:11:37,279
Bui never would. Um and so I maintain

4509
03:11:37,279 --> 03:11:39,840
that optimism, but it will take time.

4510
03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:41,520
>> And is there a study available for what

4511
03:11:41,520 --> 03:11:43,840
happened in Forest Park?

4512
03:11:43,840 --> 03:11:46,160
>> Yeah. So I'll send you what what

4513
03:11:46,160 --> 03:11:48,960
documentation we have. It's been a a few

4514
03:11:48,960 --> 03:11:51,760
years. I think we got approval for that.

4515
03:11:51,760 --> 03:11:53,520
A verbal approval. I got written

4516
03:11:53,520 --> 03:11:55,279
approval. It literally took 6 months

4517
03:11:55,279 --> 03:11:56,880
just to get a piece of paper that says

4518
03:11:56,880 --> 03:11:57,760
we aford

4519
03:11:57,760 --> 03:11:59,600
>> cuz in the in the inter room I'd be

4520
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:02,000
interested in looking at at what that

4521
03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:04,319
looked like what we submitted to lower

4522
03:12:04,319 --> 03:12:08,880
in Forest Park and I was there another neighborhood

4523
03:12:08,880 --> 03:12:12,720
>> park we did it as a joint application

4524
03:12:12,720 --> 03:12:14,720
>> because they were similar you know

4525
03:12:14,720 --> 03:12:17,680
there's uh neighborhoods with a lot of

4526
03:12:17,680 --> 03:12:21,279
study short roads um so it wasn't it

4527
03:12:21,279 --> 03:12:23,200
didn't require the kind of analysis

4528
03:12:23,200 --> 03:12:25,760
necar that this will because you've got

4529
03:12:25,760 --> 03:12:27,680
connector roads, collector roads, you've

4530
03:12:27,680 --> 03:12:29,680
got that that type of

4531
03:12:29,680 --> 03:12:31,439
>> Isn't the issue of this something like

4532
03:12:31,439 --> 03:12:33,840
AOT? It's the kind of thing AOT

4533
03:12:33,840 --> 03:12:38,000
>> we we continue to lobby for each

4534
03:12:38,000 --> 03:12:40,080
if you see your state representatives

4535
03:12:40,080 --> 03:12:42,399
just ask them please to give us home

4536
03:12:42,399 --> 03:12:45,359
rule authority. We know our roads

4537
03:12:45,359 --> 03:12:49,120
>> um and we want our roads to be safe but

4538
03:12:49,120 --> 03:12:52,080
we also want them to be used. For

4539
03:12:52,080 --> 03:12:54,319
example, Forest Park is a is a great

4540
03:12:54,319 --> 03:12:56,240
example of a place where kids should be

4541
03:12:56,240 --> 03:12:58,160
able to ride their bike on a road. It's

4542
03:12:58,160 --> 03:13:01,680
a suburban subdivision, and it's ideal

4543
03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:04,080
for that. And so, there's no reason why

4544
03:13:04,080 --> 03:13:06,560
anybody needs to go 35 on the tiny

4545
03:13:06,560 --> 03:13:08,960
little road. So,

4546
03:13:08,960 --> 03:13:13,120
>> we need a four-way stop on uh Wells and

4547
03:13:13,120 --> 03:13:17,200
Rockefeller and Bud Corners.

4548
03:13:17,200 --> 03:13:19,279
>> You know what I'm talking about?

4549
03:13:19,279 --> 03:13:22,720
>> At the Steiner Farm. Yes.

4550
03:13:22,720 --> 03:13:25,760
>> Yes. I've been in touch with uh I've

4551
03:13:25,760 --> 03:13:27,680
been with in touch with the county for

4552
03:13:27,680 --> 03:13:29,439
years on that intersection. They are

4553
03:13:29,439 --> 03:13:31,680
going to make improvements, what they

4554
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:33,760
call improvements to that intersection,

4555
03:13:33,760 --> 03:13:34,479
I'm told.

4556
03:13:34,479 --> 03:13:35,200
>> Right.

4557
03:13:35,200 --> 03:13:36,640
>> Um

4558
03:13:36,640 --> 03:13:38,239
>> and I will let you know when they're

4559
03:13:38,239 --> 03:13:40,560
doing the install.

4560
03:13:40,560 --> 03:13:41,040
>> Okay.

4561
03:13:41,040 --> 03:13:44,469
>> Yep.

4562
03:13:44,479 --> 03:13:49,439
» Okay. Uh last but not least, we have um

4563
03:13:49,439 --> 03:13:52,309
uh

4564
03:13:52,319 --> 03:13:55,920
we discussed uh in attorney client

4565
03:13:55,920 --> 03:14:00,080
session proposed settlements of

4566
03:14:00,080 --> 03:14:02,560
oh uh all this to say I never got to the

4567
03:14:02,560 --> 03:14:04,160
actual point of the correspondence. We

4568
03:14:04,160 --> 03:14:07,120
received correspondence from a gentleman

4569
03:14:07,120 --> 03:14:10,479
on uh who lives on Elm Street requesting

4570
03:14:10,479 --> 03:14:12,880
that we lower the speed limit. I both

4571
03:14:12,880 --> 03:14:14,800
wrote to him and spoke with him at

4572
03:14:14,800 --> 03:14:17,760
length on the phone. um is very happy to

4573
03:14:17,760 --> 03:14:22,319
hear that we're already on it and um

4574
03:14:22,319 --> 03:14:25,760
uh he provided rationale

4575
03:14:25,760 --> 03:14:29,840
um in his argument. He in his profession

4576
03:14:29,840 --> 03:14:31,840
must know something about these and

4577
03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:34,560
consulted apparently with uh New York

4578
03:14:34,560 --> 03:14:37,120
State on these types of matters in a

4579
03:14:37,120 --> 03:14:41,439
previous life. Um

4580
03:14:41,439 --> 03:14:44,479
so all right uh in attorney client

4581
03:14:44,479 --> 03:14:46,080
session we discussed proposed

4582
03:14:46,080 --> 03:14:49,680
settlements as it relates to assessments

4583
03:14:49,680 --> 03:14:52,319
on two properties.

4584
03:14:52,319 --> 03:14:54,880
We have those properties

4585
03:14:54,880 --> 03:14:56,720
>> 172

4586
03:14:56,720 --> 03:14:57,439
>> sorry

4587
03:14:57,439 --> 03:14:58,319
>> 172.

4588
03:14:58,319 --> 03:15:01,600
>> Thank you J.

4589
03:15:01,600 --> 03:15:03,600
>> So we have to approve those.

4590
03:15:03,600 --> 03:15:04,000
>> Yeah.

4591
03:15:04,000 --> 03:15:06,800
>> Yes we have to approve those. Penny and

4592
03:15:06,800 --> 03:15:09,920
I appreciate you uh weren't involved in

4593
03:15:09,920 --> 03:15:13,279
the discussions or the whatever.

4594
03:15:13,279 --> 03:15:14,800
>> I mean, was this approved by the

4595
03:15:14,800 --> 03:15:16,399
assessors also?

4596
03:15:16,399 --> 03:15:18,640
>> Yes, this is the Yes, this is in

4597
03:15:18,640 --> 03:15:21,200
consultation with the with the assessor.

4598
03:15:21,200 --> 03:15:23,920
It is the town board's role to approve

4599
03:15:23,920 --> 03:15:28,720
or disapprove of these. So, it's it's a conversation or discussion that

4600
03:15:28,720 --> 03:15:29,920
>> Which page is that on?

4601
03:15:29,920 --> 03:15:31,120
>> 172.

4602
03:15:31,120 --> 03:15:32,080
>> Thank you.

4603
03:15:32,080 --> 03:15:33,680
>> Um discussion with

4604
03:15:33,680 --> 03:15:35,520
>> of the final final.

4605
03:15:35,520 --> 03:15:37,990
>> Yes.

4606
03:15:38,000 --> 03:15:45,439
02 um one property initially assess

4607
03:15:45,439 --> 03:15:47,920
more than one

4608
03:15:47,920 --> 03:15:50,960
>> 172 is a resolution author authorizing

4609
03:15:50,960 --> 03:15:52,720
the settlement it's a small difference

4610
03:15:52,720 --> 03:15:54,880
between what was the assessment level

4611
03:15:54,880 --> 03:15:59,520
560 and um 515

4612
03:15:59,520 --> 03:16:02,479
and this is settlement of article 7

4613
03:16:02,479 --> 03:16:06,160
proceeding Susan Kirchoff and Helen

4614
03:16:06,160 --> 03:16:08,080
uh property. The parcel number is

4615
03:16:08,080 --> 03:16:13,279
indicated here. Um it's a settlement

4616
03:16:13,279 --> 03:16:15,040
as discussed.

4617
03:16:15,040 --> 03:16:17,439
>> So what so so what is separating these

4618
03:16:17,439 --> 03:16:19,359
two properties?

4619
03:16:19,359 --> 03:16:22,399
What what's the precedent here?

4620
03:16:22,399 --> 03:16:25,520
All right, president. Um, folks, you you

4621
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:27,279
should know if you have a property that

4622
03:16:27,279 --> 03:16:30,560
you feel is over assessed or unequally

4623
03:16:30,560 --> 03:16:33,120
assessed, unfairly assessed, you are

4624
03:16:33,120 --> 03:16:35,840
encouraged to first reach out to the

4625
03:16:35,840 --> 03:16:38,160
assessor's office. The assessor, as I've

4626
03:16:38,160 --> 03:16:40,399
mentioned before, is an independently

4627
03:16:40,399 --> 03:16:44,399
appointed office. Um, and the assessor

4628
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:47,840
will uh

4629
03:16:47,840 --> 03:16:52,960
take your information and and make uh in

4630
03:16:52,960 --> 03:16:55,040
this case her determination whether or

4631
03:16:55,040 --> 03:16:57,680
not a change in assessment is warranted

4632
03:16:57,680 --> 03:17:01,279
and why it would be. If you don't feel

4633
03:17:01,279 --> 03:17:02,239
um [clears throat]

4634
03:17:02,239 --> 03:17:04,800
that you are happy with that, you should

4635
03:17:04,800 --> 03:17:06,880
come to grievance day. That's in May.

4636
03:17:06,880 --> 03:17:10,479
And so that is typically the fourth uh

4637
03:17:10,479 --> 03:17:15,120
Tuesday in May. And uh you will then

4638
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:17,920
present your hopefully your rationale

4639
03:17:17,920 --> 03:17:21,279
and your comparables

4640
03:17:21,279 --> 03:17:23,840
um to the assessment for review board

4641
03:17:23,840 --> 03:17:25,840
and then our next meeting we'll be

4642
03:17:25,840 --> 03:17:28,080
hopefully reappointing one of them and

4643
03:17:28,080 --> 03:17:29,600
entertaining

4644
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:32,239
um you know additional members to the

4645
03:17:32,239 --> 03:17:35,680
assessment review board. And if you are

4646
03:17:35,680 --> 03:17:37,439
not satisfied what they make a

4647
03:17:37,439 --> 03:17:40,080
determination then you can take a legal

4648
03:17:40,080 --> 03:17:42,560
action which is called uh somebody

4649
03:17:42,560 --> 03:17:45,279
mentioned legal fees here. Um the town

4650
03:17:45,279 --> 03:17:49,600
of Red Hook spends funds um on legal

4651
03:17:49,600 --> 03:17:51,600
matters and so you can take a legal

4652
03:17:51,600 --> 03:17:53,120
matter um

4653
03:17:53,120 --> 03:17:54,640
>> and that's what they that's what they

4654
03:17:54,640 --> 03:17:54,960
did

4655
03:17:54,960 --> 03:17:56,479
>> and that's what they did and the other

4656
03:17:56,479 --> 03:18:01,279
ones did. And so, um, often times you

4657
03:18:01,279 --> 03:18:05,040
are deciding on, um, you're doing your

4658
03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:07,200
best to work with the assessor and with

4659
03:18:07,200 --> 03:18:09,600
the attorneys and the comparables to

4660
03:18:09,600 --> 03:18:12,800
understand whether or not um, any

4661
03:18:12,800 --> 03:18:14,319
adjustment

4662
03:18:14,319 --> 03:18:17,200
is appropriate and there's a negotiation

4663
03:18:17,200 --> 03:18:19,600
that ensues. And so in this case, we

4664
03:18:19,600 --> 03:18:24,160
have resolution number seven.

4665
03:18:24,160 --> 03:18:26,880
>> So we've reduced one. So, one is is

4666
03:18:26,880 --> 03:18:29,520
being reduced by 45,000 and one is being

4667
03:18:29,520 --> 03:18:33,120
reduced by by 200,000. But is there like

4668
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:35,040
is this does this potentially apply to

4669
03:18:35,040 --> 03:18:37,040
other properties? Like what like what

4670
03:18:37,040 --> 03:18:37,600
was

4671
03:18:37,600 --> 03:18:38,160
>> it does not

4672
03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:40,239
>> what was the justification?

4673
03:18:40,239 --> 03:18:42,880
Um

4674
03:18:42,880 --> 03:18:46,399
I'm trying to understand what

4675
03:18:46,399 --> 03:18:48,800
>> why we why we assessed them for more

4676
03:18:48,800 --> 03:18:52,239
than they than they were ultimately

4677
03:18:52,239 --> 03:18:53,920
valued for.

4678
03:18:53,920 --> 03:18:57,279
>> Well, Um you asking a rather broad

4679
03:18:57,279 --> 03:19:02,479
question um about uh the the assessor

4680
03:19:02,479 --> 03:19:06,239
um anytime a property for example

4681
03:19:06,239 --> 03:19:08,000
transacts

4682
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:11,520
um anytime a property is enhanced

4683
03:19:11,520 --> 03:19:16,160
anytime the uh community values

4684
03:19:16,160 --> 03:19:20,640
um uh trend upward um an assessment uh

4685
03:19:20,640 --> 03:19:24,399
level uh can change and so they're

4686
03:19:24,399 --> 03:19:26,960
various reasons why a property is

4687
03:19:26,960 --> 03:19:30,319
assessed for what it is. um a discussion

4688
03:19:30,319 --> 03:19:34,399
and uh happens with the attorneys and

4689
03:19:34,399 --> 03:19:37,200
with the input of the assessor on the

4690
03:19:37,200 --> 03:19:39,760
property and why it should or should not

4691
03:19:39,760 --> 03:19:42,640
be adjusted and then in a negotiation

4692
03:19:42,640 --> 03:19:45,439
ensues and in this case looking at

4693
03:19:45,439 --> 03:19:47,200
comparables

4694
03:19:47,200 --> 03:19:49,520
um they felt that this was a fair

4695
03:19:49,520 --> 03:19:50,640
settlement right

4696
03:19:50,640 --> 03:19:53,279
>> and so that's why we have um in this

4697
03:19:53,279 --> 03:19:55,920
case it's a reduction of about 8% and I

4698
03:19:55,920 --> 03:19:57,920
think in the other one it's it's perhaps

4699
03:19:57,920 --> 03:19:59,040
similar

4700
03:19:59,040 --> 03:20:01,840
It's about 10% on the other one. A lot

4701
03:20:01,840 --> 03:20:03,200
of

4702
03:20:03,200 --> 03:20:05,920
>> Yeah, it's about 10% in the other one.

4703
03:20:05,920 --> 03:20:06,720
Um

4704
03:20:06,720 --> 03:20:09,760
>> Christina, when it comes to values,

4705
03:20:09,760 --> 03:20:13,279
uh there's a it's not black and white.

4706
03:20:13,279 --> 03:20:15,439
It's a gray area. I mean, I've dealt

4707
03:20:15,439 --> 03:20:17,520
with a lot of appraisals,

4708
03:20:17,520 --> 03:20:19,600
you know, with uh conservation

4709
03:20:19,600 --> 03:20:22,399
easements, and

4710
03:20:22,399 --> 03:20:25,359
there's always a gray area. So, it's uh

4711
03:20:25,359 --> 03:20:28,160
you know, and I'm sure they got comps to

4712
03:20:28,160 --> 03:20:32,319
look at other homes or, you know, size

4713
03:20:32,319 --> 03:20:35,200
of, you know, lots and that's what they

4714
03:20:35,200 --> 03:20:37,760
had to do. I mean, they paid money to

4715
03:20:37,760 --> 03:20:39,680
they had to pay somebody to do this.

4716
03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:42,000
>> Um, and I'll I'll just tell you on the

4717
03:20:42,000 --> 03:20:43,920
second one, um, just to give you an

4718
03:20:43,920 --> 03:20:46,880
example, Christina, is on the second

4719
03:20:46,880 --> 03:20:49,680
one, the settlement level is essentially

4720
03:20:49,680 --> 03:20:53,120
what that property was purchased for.

4721
03:20:53,120 --> 03:20:55,840
um during the period of time where it's

4722
03:20:55,840 --> 03:20:57,359
to be valued.

4723
03:20:57,359 --> 03:20:58,880
>> And that's kind of that's that's the

4724
03:20:58,880 --> 03:21:03,200
basis of my of my question is is not why

4725
03:21:03,200 --> 03:21:06,399
these two folks argued to have their

4726
03:21:06,399 --> 03:21:09,680
assessment lowered, but more like why

4727
03:21:09,680 --> 03:21:12,960
did we get it wrong? Why why were we 10%

4728
03:21:12,960 --> 03:21:15,920
over? Is this is this is this something

4729
03:21:15,920 --> 03:21:17,600
that because I mean that's that's

4730
03:21:17,600 --> 03:21:19,359
significant. That's a significant amount

4731
03:21:19,359 --> 03:21:22,269
of money and

4732
03:21:22,269 --> 03:21:22,399
>> [clears throat]

4733
03:21:22,399 --> 03:21:24,640
>> It's that gray It's that gray area

4734
03:21:24,640 --> 03:21:26,800
speaking. I wouldn't necessarily make

4735
03:21:26,800 --> 03:21:28,239
the assumption that it's wrong.

4736
03:21:28,239 --> 03:21:32,319
>> Yes. I think that's a a really that's

4737
03:21:32,319 --> 03:21:35,040
bad to even suggest that when you are

4738
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:38,239
trying to value a property. This is a

4739
03:21:38,239 --> 03:21:40,239
good example of the property. This was

4740
03:21:40,239 --> 03:21:46,479
owned by Mary Gadeski for decades and decades. So you have no idea

4741
03:21:46,479 --> 03:21:49,439
what for example the condition even

4742
03:21:49,439 --> 03:21:51,279
though it's in the property card of the

4743
03:21:51,279 --> 03:21:53,600
house like how much work does that the

4744
03:21:53,600 --> 03:21:55,760
house need. So you you go and you look

4745
03:21:55,760 --> 03:21:59,920
at this large uh property with you know

4746
03:21:59,920 --> 03:22:03,279
over a 100 acres of unprotected land and

4747
03:22:03,279 --> 03:22:05,439
so you think it's just it's got to be

4748
03:22:05,439 --> 03:22:08,479
worth tons of money. But then if you're

4749
03:22:08,479 --> 03:22:11,359
if you gets put on the market as you

4750
03:22:11,359 --> 03:22:13,040
know because you're involved in real

4751
03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:16,000
estate heavily the market is what the

4752
03:22:16,000 --> 03:22:18,239
market is. It's not what the assessor

4753
03:22:18,239 --> 03:22:20,479
says the value is. The assessment does

4754
03:22:20,479 --> 03:22:23,040
its best to look at comparable

4755
03:22:23,040 --> 03:22:25,920
situations and place that assessment

4756
03:22:25,920 --> 03:22:30,160
level on. often times when either

4757
03:22:30,160 --> 03:22:33,520
townwide uh reevaluations for when a

4758
03:22:33,520 --> 03:22:35,920
property transacts, you get a better

4759
03:22:35,920 --> 03:22:40,080
sense of right a better sense of another

4760
03:22:40,080 --> 03:22:42,720
example is a house that I think you were

4761
03:22:42,720 --> 03:22:44,960
involved in a project over on Garden

4762
03:22:44,960 --> 03:22:46,960
Street there. A nice beautiful

4763
03:22:46,960 --> 03:22:50,399
extension, right, for Will and Katie,

4764
03:22:50,399 --> 03:22:53,760
right? That property was purchased

4765
03:22:53,760 --> 03:22:56,000
like 300 something thousand just five or

4766
03:22:56,000 --> 03:22:57,200
six, right? Course

4767
03:22:57,200 --> 03:22:58,960
>> big improvement,

4768
03:22:58,960 --> 03:23:02,239
right? So how does an assessor you

4769
03:23:02,239 --> 03:23:04,000
figure out you go the square foot, you

4770
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:05,200
look at the condition of that

4771
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:09,120
improvement on I I would bet that that

4772
03:23:09,120 --> 03:23:11,760
house was not assessed for the $1.4

4773
03:23:11,760 --> 03:23:14,160
million that it got when it sold this

4774
03:23:14,160 --> 03:23:18,080
year. That little red bird house on

4775
03:23:18,080 --> 03:23:20,319
street with that. How many of these do

4776
03:23:20,319 --> 03:23:24,309
we get in a year?

4777
03:23:24,319 --> 03:23:25,279
» We do get them every year.

4778
03:23:25,279 --> 03:23:27,279
>> We do. We get them every year. We get

4779
03:23:27,279 --> 03:23:29,680
more than more than one and less than

4780
03:23:29,680 --> 03:23:31,200
10.

4781
03:23:31,200 --> 03:23:32,800
>> What? Less than 50.

4782
03:23:32,800 --> 03:23:34,319
>> Less than 50. That's fair.

4783
03:23:34,319 --> 03:23:35,520
>> Yeah.

4784
03:23:35,520 --> 03:23:36,960
>> So, um,

4785
03:23:36,960 --> 03:23:39,520
>> but anybody anybody can file one

4786
03:23:39,520 --> 03:23:40,080
>> for sure.

4787
03:23:40,080 --> 03:23:42,160
>> And it's something it's a it's a part of

4788
03:23:42,160 --> 03:23:44,160
the process of what we have to do.

4789
03:23:44,160 --> 03:23:47,200
>> Yeah. And in this case, it's a really

4790
03:23:47,200 --> 03:23:48,960
good, you know, in that second one, that

4791
03:23:48,960 --> 03:23:51,040
larger one, it's a good example, the

4792
03:23:51,040 --> 03:23:53,359
purchasers reported, you know, being

4793
03:23:53,359 --> 03:23:55,760
surprised at how much work the condition

4794
03:23:55,760 --> 03:23:58,080
of the house. And I can attest, and I'm

4795
03:23:58,080 --> 03:24:01,120
sure you've been involved in in this

4796
03:24:01,120 --> 03:24:02,160
business. Um,

4797
03:24:02,160 --> 03:24:06,319
>> I feel if Cheryl is okay with this, I

4798
03:24:06,319 --> 03:24:07,120
>> make a motion.

4799
03:24:07,120 --> 03:24:09,040
>> It's not it's not it's not always the

4800
03:24:09,040 --> 03:24:11,040
case that theor,

4801
03:24:11,040 --> 03:24:11,920
but you know, you have

4802
03:24:11,920 --> 03:24:14,319
>> I would make a motion to accept these.

4803
03:24:14,319 --> 03:24:18,239
All right. Well, let's uh Penny, I uh

4804
03:24:18,239 --> 03:24:21,279
embrace that. But we have resolution

4805
03:24:21,279 --> 03:24:24,479
number seven authorizing

4806
03:24:24,479 --> 03:24:30,000
article 7 settlement reducing property

4807
03:24:30,000 --> 03:24:33,920
with the 767017

4808
03:24:33,920 --> 03:24:38,160
from 56500 to 515,000.

4809
03:24:38,160 --> 03:24:40,880
And can we move that resolution?

4810
03:24:40,880 --> 03:24:42,800
>> I'll second. [clears throat]

4811
03:24:42,800 --> 03:24:46,319
Any further discussion? If not, all in

4812
03:24:46,319 --> 03:24:47,279
favor?

4813
03:24:47,279 --> 03:24:50,880
>> I I five eyes. Okay. Um this other

4814
03:24:50,880 --> 03:24:52,399
property

4815
03:24:52,399 --> 03:24:55,040
um which is parcel number ending in

4816
03:24:55,040 --> 03:24:57,439
215250

4817
03:24:57,439 --> 03:25:01,830
uh currently assessed for 2,185,100

4818
03:25:01,840 --> 03:25:06,870
reduced to 1,965,000.

4819
03:25:06,880 --> 03:25:09,040
» The names on both of those are the same.

4820
03:25:09,040 --> 03:25:11,120
>> Oh, there was a typo. Should have been

4821
03:25:11,120 --> 03:25:13,279
corrected. Um,

4822
03:25:13,279 --> 03:25:16,960
>> correct. I think

4823
03:25:16,960 --> 03:25:18,479
>> my copy is fine. It's correct.

4824
03:25:18,479 --> 03:25:20,319
>> That has been that has been corrected.

4825
03:25:20,319 --> 03:25:22,399
Thank you, Rich.

4826
03:25:22,399 --> 03:25:24,000
>> That was in yesterday's.

4827
03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:25,840
>> It's different on on what I'm looking

4828
03:25:25,840 --> 03:25:26,239
at.

4829
03:25:26,239 --> 03:25:27,200
>> Yeah, it corrected.

4830
03:25:27,200 --> 03:25:31,359
>> Yeah, there was a typo there and that typo was corrected. Yep. The

4831
03:25:31,359 --> 03:25:35,200
resolution we use as a template.

4832
03:25:35,200 --> 03:25:38,160
We use templates, don't we all?

4833
03:25:38,160 --> 03:25:40,239
because it makes it easier until we do

4834
03:25:40,239 --> 03:25:41,840
something like forget to change the

4835
03:25:41,840 --> 03:25:42,880
name.

4836
03:25:42,880 --> 03:25:45,359
>> Um okay. Uh

4837
03:25:45,359 --> 03:25:47,040
>> I make a motion.

4838
03:25:47,040 --> 03:25:48,720
>> I'll second.

4839
03:25:48,720 --> 03:25:50,239
>> Okay. This is uh

4840
03:25:50,239 --> 03:25:51,520
>> eight.

4841
03:25:51,520 --> 03:25:53,840
>> Your your motion is to prove approve a

4842
03:25:53,840 --> 03:25:55,840
resolution.

4843
03:25:55,840 --> 03:26:00,880
>> Okay. Thank you. I like it. Um further

4844
03:26:00,880 --> 03:26:02,640
discussion.

4845
03:26:02,640 --> 03:26:05,359
>> If not, all in favor?

4846
03:26:05,359 --> 03:26:05,840
>> I I

4847
03:26:05,840 --> 03:26:08,080
>> Thank you very much. Thank you folks.

4848
03:26:08,080 --> 03:26:11,359
It's almost 11:00.

4849
03:26:11,359 --> 03:26:13,680
I want to thank you for sticking with us

4850
03:26:13,680 --> 03:26:17,200
again. Um and

4851
03:26:17,200 --> 03:26:19,680
once again to wish you a very healthy

4852
03:26:19,680 --> 03:26:23,840
and a happy 2026.

4853
03:26:23,840 --> 03:26:27,279
There's a lot of stuff going on around

4854
03:26:27,279 --> 03:26:32,160
many many uh many places near and far.

4855
03:26:32,160 --> 03:26:35,439
Um there are viruses going around. I

4856
03:26:35,439 --> 03:26:37,359
hope you get to dodge them. Some of them

4857
03:26:37,359 --> 03:26:41,120
have not been pretty. Um, but also that

4858
03:26:41,120 --> 03:26:43,439
you get a chance to take a minute to

4859
03:26:43,439 --> 03:26:46,000
enjoy where you do live because it's a

4860
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:47,600
very special place.

4861
03:26:47,600 --> 03:26:49,680
>> With that being said, good night

4862
03:26:49,680 --> 03:26:50,560
everyone.

4863
03:26:50,560 --> 03:26:51,680
>> Make a motion.

4864
03:26:51,680 --> 03:26:55,040
>> A motion to adjourn the meeting. Second.

4865
03:26:55,040 --> 03:27:00,520
>> All in favor? I thank you.