1 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:39,120 All right. Today is April 28th, 2026. It is 12.34 p.m. We are calling to order the initial board meeting of the Red Rock's Improvement District Board of Trustees. And my name is Jay Springer. I'm an attorney assisting the board and the district. We are recording via Zoom, though this is an initial in-person meeting of the board. 2 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:52,180 There are no members of the public present and none have requested notice or sent any communications about the meeting after it was publicly posted. 3 00:00:53,020 --> 00:01:01,980 We have online board member Adam Fisher who will not be participating as a voting member but is in the meeting by invitation. 4 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:08,460 and then in person we have board members, Ryan Brown and James maybe. 5 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:19,820 So with that, kind of going through all health out as needed, but we'll basically just go through the agenda. 6 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:23,300 That is the call to order, acknowledging who is present. 7 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:27,420 We do have a quorum. It is a three-member board, so two present will be voting. 8 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:36,000 because this is an in-person meeting, we don't have to specifically do a roll call vote, 9 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,120 but ordinarily we will. It's a lot cleaner that way when it is an electronic meeting, 10 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:48,020 we have to do all roll call, all votes by roll call, or declare that they are unanimous. 11 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,540 So that's a note for future meetings as well. 12 00:01:50,540 --> 00:02:00,460 So in the confirmation of trustees, I just want to acknowledge those names that we have here. 13 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:04,440 Are there any comments or questions on that? 14 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,660 No questions. 15 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:08,160 Good here. 16 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:16,980 For the oath of office, each of you should have received a standard form for the oath of office. 17 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,720 This is traditionally done before you take your first actions, but it's not something 18 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,760 that is going to invalidate or cause any problems. 19 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:31,800 But it is something that you need to do before the next meeting. 20 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:39,260 The easiest way to handle that is to go to a notary public and have them read the forum 21 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:44,780 and fill it out and then send a copy of that to me for the records and I'll work closely 22 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:48,000 with the appointed positions and handling that. 23 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,040 It is, I have it pulled up, it is very short. 24 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:57,000 I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support Obey and defend the Constitution of 25 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,800 the United States and the Constitution of the State of Utah and I will discharge my duties. 26 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:02,940 The duties of my office with fidelity. 27 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:10,260 Every officer in any position that's an appointed or elected position has to take that oath 28 00:03:11,780 --> 00:03:17,540 when they, when they move into that position. So that is, that is something to, to have 29 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:26,340 happen. And then in this form, which is provided by the state, it provides the, the, where 30 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:33,840 you send it for the district, it's going to be the clerk. So get that done, send it over. 31 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:39,000 or it is one of the first actions that you'll need to take as individual trustees. 32 00:03:40,940 --> 00:03:47,580 So that is item number three, no action necessary as a board, but as individual board members 33 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:48,160 you'll do that. 34 00:03:49,220 --> 00:03:53,500 Number four on the list is an election and appointment of officer positions. 35 00:03:54,460 --> 00:04:01,060 The three that we're talking about, I'll pull up, are the clerk, treasurer, and chair. 36 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:18,820 and these can be changed later, but we want to have these positions outlined. I recommend that we do make those elections and elections within our own body, within this body rather, so that they can be made. 37 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:27,800 And these are the form that I have pulled up is a form that we will fill out in relatively short order as board, which is the fraud risk assessment. 38 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:37,800 But the roles of those bodies is critical of those hats that we're assigning are critical to the function of the board. 39 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,000 So the board chair is elected an appointed chairperson of the body. 40 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:51,560 And that's analogous to the mayor or a commissioner on a, you know, accounting commission or the trustee, which is you. 41 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,120 And that is typically the primary responsibility is running the meeting. 42 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:05,040 There will be some responsibilities like signing papers as the chair that would be that 43 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:12,160 but largely it's just kind of a managerial position of the meetings themselves. 44 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:20,080 The clerk is the bookkeeper. They'll work closely with the accountant and delegate those responsibilities. 45 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,340 Most of them out in a small district, those are often handled outside. 46 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:32,120 They validate payment requests, ensure compliance, and prepare checks and record the financial transactions. 47 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:44,260 Those are only district transactions, so they're typically will not be a lot of transactions to handle in a small district that doesn't have customers paying bills. 48 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:54,680 So it's a relatively straightforward and often the day-to-day responsibilities are contracted out, but the clerk is the record keeper. 49 00:05:55,660 --> 00:06:02,820 And then the last one is the treasurer, which is the custodian of the cash accounts responsible for overseeing the receipt of payments. 50 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:09,460 So the treasurer is always an authorized signer and the separation of these three is different 51 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:16,320 individuals is what the state auditor looks at for compliance with those state laws. 52 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:26,040 So the action for the board would be to select who would wear those, those hats, and make 53 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,760 of motion to appoint those positions. 54 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:37,480 If the board isn't ready to make that decision and wants more time, that certainly can 55 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:37,820 be. 56 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:41,700 It would definitely be a priority item for first thing on the next agenda. 57 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:46,300 But it can also be changed at any time by a vote of the board. 58 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:51,540 So I'd like to have, I'd recommend that that be done today if possible. 59 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:59,260 So that would be item 4, are there any questions or do you have somebody willing to make a motion? 60 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:07,760 It's all right Jay, the three board positions is a little confused by the clerk being an outside person. 61 00:07:08,140 --> 00:07:09,740 What are the three that we need to fill? 62 00:07:10,420 --> 00:07:21,440 So the clerk is still a member of the board for now, but the day-to-day tasks, it's like having a department head or somebody that 63 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:28,040 overseas it but really the day-to-day is handled by somebody else. So for example, I would work closely 64 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,800 with the board chair in creating the agenda in the minutes and getting the meeting ready to go, 65 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:40,500 but that's officially part of their responsibility, but of course staff and other people help out. 66 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:45,300 So that's what I was talking about with the clerk because we don't have to be an accountant, 67 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:50,720 but it's kind of a bookkeeping record-keeping task. 68 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:54,660 So that's board chair, clerk, and treasurer. 69 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Yes. 70 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,860 Is this something we think we can decide today or do we want to? 71 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:07,280 I think we can, but just not relative to our individual capabilities or desires. 72 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:11,240 But could you order those J in terms of least work to most work? 73 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,860 Not that we're going to be a lot of work. 74 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,920 The chair is, let's see. 75 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:26,740 The treasure will basically be no work until there is a cost, 76 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,920 some expenditures associated with the district. 77 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Same with the clerk with the exception that the clerk will be copied 78 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,360 on emails for records of the district. 79 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:45,100 and then the chair will work with largely me on preparing meetings. 80 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:53,300 None of these, I would think, are even an hour of work when you don't have a board meeting coming up. 81 00:08:54,340 --> 00:09:01,140 When you have more tasks, you'll be making decisions about as a full board about 82 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:06,060 that's determining how to how to farm out those tasks and and provide an 83 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:14,560 oversight role. Okay. I had my motion to elect those positions today unless anyone 84 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:21,080 feels otherwise. Let's do it. So who wants to do what and make a motion? I'd 85 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:29,560 suggest I could be chair Adam could be clerk James could be treasurer. I move for 86 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:33,260 Ryan Brown motion, Brian Brown to be chair. 87 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,240 We can do them all in one motion. 88 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,800 All right, I move for exactly what Ryan said then if you didn't already move for that. 89 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:42,100 All right, second if you did move. 90 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:48,860 So let's, so we move that Ryan, Ryan be selected as the chair. 91 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Adam be selected as the clerk and James be selected as the treasurer until, 92 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,600 So until future meeting when it's yeah, that's just the positions for now. 93 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:02,880 Yep. 94 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,820 Does it need a second? 95 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:04,580 I assume second. 96 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:05,600 Yeah, we need it. 97 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:06,500 We need a second. 98 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:06,820 Right. 99 00:10:07,220 --> 00:10:07,620 That's me. 100 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Second. 101 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:09,220 Okay. 102 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,920 So Ryan motioned. 103 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,800 James seconded. 104 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Adam is a non voting member for this meeting. 105 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:18,720 All in favor. 106 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:20,380 Aye. 107 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,160 All right. 108 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:32,900 is, it is unanimous with the two voting members. So, all right. The next item, and this 109 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:42,640 is going to be really quick, is the, oh, sorry about that. Let me pull up the training. 110 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:49,120 Okay. So, this is something that you guys have to do every year. It's open in public meetings 111 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,880 exact training. Every board member has to do this. Adam being here counts even though 112 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,120 he's not a voting member. This is training that you could do on your own. You could do 113 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,140 it through the State Auditors website. I'm happy to provide additional resources for training. 114 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:08,940 There is another training that I will send you that has to be done online for a once per 115 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:15,580 term training. And it takes about 20 minutes to 35 minutes online through the State Auditors 116 00:11:15,580 --> 00:11:21,160 website. But this one, I'm just going to go through a high level, you know, 10 questions 117 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,880 with the answers and kind of a couple of examples of what why the other other meetings don't. 118 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,440 This is an annual thing. That's something that I'll help make sure gets checked off. The official 119 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,980 record of this meeting will be the minutes. We'll also have the recording that gets posted to 120 00:11:37,980 --> 00:11:42,580 the public notice website. And so that will be our verification that this training was completed for 121 00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:49,380 those present, okay? The official meeting. So the legislative intent of the Open and Public 122 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:54,680 Meetings Act is for public bodies to deliberate and act civilly, respectfully, openly and 123 00:11:54,680 --> 00:12:03,580 transparently. It's in the name, it is open. Transparency is an added bonus, but that is not the 124 00:12:03,580 --> 00:12:11,680 express stated purpose of the act. A quorum is defined number two in the Open and Public Meetings 125 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:15,560 exact as a simple majority of the membership of the body, three or more members of the body, 126 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,280 minimum number needed to hold a meeting, and the number of people needed to conduct 127 00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:22,880 business of the body. 128 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,540 It is defined as a simple majority. 129 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:32,700 So the other incorrect answers are kind of byproducts of that in certain situations and 130 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:33,900 or all situations. 131 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Number three, how soon do approve minutes need to be posted for the public? 132 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:53,180 It is as soon as reasonably necessary within seven calendar days, I'm going up from the bottom within 30 days after holding an open meeting or within three days after approving the written minutes in an open meeting. 133 00:12:54,080 --> 00:13:02,860 Quick note here, how it happens is we the body will create minutes of this meeting after the meeting, obviously. 134 00:13:02,860 --> 00:13:16,620 And then they will be on the agenda for approval at the next meeting as approved minutes the approved minutes need to be posted within three business days after that meeting when they're approved. They can't be approved at the meeting that they are created for. 135 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:30,120 So that's A, four is what is a justifiable reason you may hold a closed meeting discussion regarding controversial recommendation from a advisory board to learn confidential crimes, confidential details about a crime in a city, 136 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:36,920 interviewing a person to fill an elected position or strategy discussion of pending or reasonable imminent litigation. 137 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:42,140 The only viable one is a strategy session to discuss litigation. 138 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:48,120 The other ones are not valid reasons to hold a non-opened transparent meeting. 139 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Five, how much time is required to notice a public meeting? 140 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,360 At least 24 hours, if regular meetings are held, and you'll notice is required, 141 00:13:58,660 --> 00:14:04,920 C, not less than 24 hours or D, all of the above, this one is all of the above. 142 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:14,300 Even though at least 24 hours and not less than 24 hours are the same thing that those exact phrases are used at different places in the posting requirements. 143 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:15,600 So, yes. 144 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,620 And we do have to, if we're having regular meetings, then you have to do annual notice. 145 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,580 Just going to assume that you do that. Why not? You just post something on the public notes website. 146 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:32,500 Number six is how often is the public body required to be trained on this act? 147 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:39,100 Each time they are newly elected or appointed annually too much or monthly is annually. 148 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:41,340 This is the annual training. 149 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:45,260 Seven, what is something that does not need to be recorded in the official minutes? 150 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,660 Date time and place, names of those present, record of each vote taken, 151 00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:52,900 and the verbatim dialogue of all matters proposed discussed are decided. 152 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,760 It is D, you don't have to have a verbatim record, we do have the recording. 153 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,320 Bless you, Jake. 154 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,980 I'm going to turn it over. 155 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:26,660 Right. Number eight, which of these is not a requirement for electronic meetings, adoption of a resolution, ordinance, or rule governing the use of the public body. Always have an anchor location where the public may attend. Give notice of, um, of the electronic meeting in accordance with state code and except for unanimous about all shall be taken by roll call, roll call. This is eight. The answer is B. There are exceptions to having an anchor location. 156 00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:35,160 One of those, those being, and we'll talk about the open, well, we'll talk about that during the electronic meeting portion, which is coming up quickly. 157 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:48,620 Nine, which of these would not be a public meeting regulated by the Open and Public Meetings Act, chance gathering at a grocery store or a social gathering at a city holiday party, Liberty Fest, you know, local event, or all of the above. 158 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:51,680 and that would be all of the above. 159 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,800 There are exceptions, you know, 160 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,320 you are human beings with lives. 161 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,600 You don't have to be worried about going 162 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,440 about your daily business and running it to people. 163 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:05,140 So, and number 10, what must be included on an agenda? 164 00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:08,020 Reasonable specificity about topics to be considered, 165 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:09,420 dress code for the meeting, 166 00:16:09,940 --> 00:16:13,160 which you missed the memo on, action items 167 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,300 or the pledge of allegiance. 168 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,240 The only answer is A. 169 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:27,660 The public is entitled to notice about what is being considered and what may be acted on only items that are properly noticed can be acted on by the board. 170 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,880 And that's why why that's there. 171 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:39,940 So with that, you have now all completed your open and public meetings at training for your first Utah position on a board. 172 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,360 So there you go. 173 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,060 We'll know attendees in the minutes, and that'll be our record. 174 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,180 Any questions on that? 175 00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:52,850 No, I'm not here. 176 00:16:54,950 --> 00:16:59,610 And finally, we have the adoption of electronic meeting policy. 177 00:17:00,310 --> 00:17:08,390 The purpose of this is to, I prepared a red-rocks improvement electronic board meeting policies 178 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:17,770 and procedures, and this is in broad strokes required by law to allow the board to hold meetings 179 00:17:18,190 --> 00:17:23,350 with participants who are not physically located in the same room and in anchor location. 180 00:17:24,670 --> 00:17:31,570 This meeting that we are having right now, we have me participating virtually electronically 181 00:17:32,110 --> 00:17:37,690 and Adam participating as a non-voting member electronically, that is allowed without having 182 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:44,330 a policy in place. What cannot happen without a policy is a vote by a board member who is 183 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:54,730 not at the noticed anchor location. So that is the key. Now, there is a provision 52 for 207 184 00:17:54,730 --> 00:18:01,990 of the Utah code. That governs the rules around when you can not have an anchor location. 185 00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:08,150 So this basically just defaults to, if you did it, if you comply with the state law, 186 00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:10,370 you can have it. 187 00:18:11,070 --> 00:18:20,370 Our policy has to enable it, but it can't make the requirements under state law less 188 00:18:20,370 --> 00:18:20,830 owners. 189 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:27,330 So we still, we couldn't say in our meeting policies that we could do 12-hour notice of 190 00:18:27,330 --> 00:18:27,650 a meeting. 191 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:29,410 That is written into state law. 192 00:18:29,410 --> 00:18:35,750 So, we basically just have a very short, this is a two-page, you know, one-in-a-half-page policy. 193 00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:40,230 Sorry for that. I'll clean up the page numbering on that for the final. 194 00:18:41,530 --> 00:18:55,250 And so, the action for the board would be to have a vote and a motion on approving this policy as presented so that future meetings would come up. 195 00:18:55,250 --> 00:19:03,530 This is a pretty quick meeting in anticipation of a broader organizational meeting forthcoming 196 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:12,550 that we can go through some more items in a little bit more detail and end with more preparation ahead of that. 197 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:21,950 So any questions on what you've been presented on that, or if now you would be ready for a vote and a motion? 198 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:37,300 No questions. I motion to adopt this policy. Second. All right. So Ryan, Ryan moves. James seconds. All in favor. 199 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,780 Aye. Aye. 200 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:45,800 Is unanimous with those present and voting? Adam is not. Okay. 201 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:53,860 Okay. And so with that, we always include on the agenda just as a note, the potential 202 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:59,240 closed session to discuss pending or reasonably imminent litigation or other matters as allowed 203 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:07,000 by state law. The process for that, if it were ever to come up, I would obviously just say 204 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,300 for now, don't have a closed meeting without your attorney. So your attorney can help you 205 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:18,560 guide through what what needs to happen for that to be proper and protected. So with that, 206 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,040 we are ready to adjourn. Now, ordinary, you can do it one of two ways. I just ask that you be 207 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,860 consistent. The chair can declare the meeting adjourned or a vote can be made to adjourn the meeting 208 00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:39,500 and then take it. I you can do it either way. It is the most successful motion to make. 209 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:56,860 But you know, it's going to happen. So up to you, but that's all I have for today. And then we'll prepare for a broader meeting with some more policies and rules for the board to consider in the future. 210 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 I motion to adjourn the meeting. 211 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,500 I think the chair, so you can just say it's over. 212 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:03,820 Okay. 213 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,300 Oh, no, we got to set a precedent. 214 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:07,580 So, set a precedent. 215 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:08,480 Take the vote. 216 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:09,020 Why not? 217 00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:10,140 We have to take the vote. 218 00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:11,200 And all in favor. 219 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:13,080 All right. 220 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:15,140 Okay. 221 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:16,480 All right. 222 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:18,180 Well, thank you. 223 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:21,000 And so I will stop the recording. 224 00:21:21,020 --> 00:21:23,160 That will be the end of the meeting. 225 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,020 Thank you, Jay. 226 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Please, Jay. 227 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,780 and we did it.