Well, let's call this meeting to order. This meeting of the advisory planning commission
is regular meeting held on the 18th of August, 2026, here at the council chambers at City
Hall. And if you wouldn't mind, join me in being upstanding and we'll say the Pledge
of Allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for
which it stands, one nation under
the command. Please be seated and thank you very much.
Well, the roll calls pretty straightforward this evening.
We're missing a member.
George reached out ahead of time.
And so with your approval, we can make a motion to do that,
we would excuse George's absence.
I swear it's legit.
So moved.
Thank you, sir.
Is there a second?
All those I think we stand with.
There's all kinds of person.
Yes, there is.
All those in favor of approving that absence, please, AI.
Aye.
Anybody opposed?
Great.
Thank you.
We've an agenda for this evening's meeting.
I hope you had a chance to take a look.
And I wonder if anybody would like to make a motion to approve it. Thank you very much, Brian. Is there a second I'll second that thank you
Brad any comments questions?
Hearing none all those in favor of approving the agenda. Please say aye. Aye. What opposed and the minutes from our last meeting very
Detail rich minutes from our last meeting
Having had a chance to look through them and of course thank the person that put them together
When anyone care to move approval or or make an amendment beforehand
So moved to approve as presented.
Thank you, Sue, is there a second?
Any comments, questions?
Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye.
Aye.
We are up to item six on the agenda, a public comment period.
We now invite anyone to share their thoughts on the topic, not on the agenda.
We welcome all opinions and ideas.
Appreciate you stating your name at the lecture.
And remember the personal attacks may be ruled out of order.
You will have up to three minutes to comment,
and we appreciate your time coming tonight.
Does anyone have any comments to make about an item not on the agenda?
Yes, ma'am, please step to the mic and Vicki say who you are.
Vicki Jo Lambert, Ward 4. I'm here because I am a member of the City Council.
And I wanted to address you all at once in public too, because I have still big feelings about multifamily housing in our community.
And as most of you know, I was part of the process with coming up with RM3.
I completely agree with that, but my invitation for us is to consider as I went into the last
meeting with a yes-vote.
And as I heard what Becky had to say about the options for what could happen with RM2
as opposed to RM3, at the last moment I said no.
But I want you to know how much I do support multifamily housing.
And I think the Bayview site is an appropriate site for all that we have been talking about.
And I absolutely trust the process.
And I trust our staff because they're highly skilled and they've been doing this way longer
than I ever will.
And I also am listening to a number of members of our community.
And those people who are in our community, I want them to feel like they do have a
voice because they do.
And I was listening to them as well.
So as complicated as I feel about that decision, I wanted to let you know why I said what I said.
And I continue to support multifamily housing and I continue to support a multifamily rezoning for the Bayview area.
And I'm going to invite you as a commission to revisit that if you are willing, if that's an option.
I don't know the process.
but I'm inviting you to do that because I think if we talked about that as the RM2
that we had discussed earlier or if there could be similar I get I don't
know the right word but if there could be a similar thing called guardrails
up on RM3 so it looks similar to RM2 even with that increased density that
would be my invitation for us to revisit and look at so that people in the
community don't get so uptight about the people running away and doing things
and I don't think they will but I think at the end of the day when we're looking
at what what is best for everyone involved my invitation for us is to
consider that
thank you thank you thank you thank you very much a nicer guy
would have led with a more formal council member Lambert please come up
and say something but thank you thank you very much for your comments any
other any other comments tonight we're hearing on what anyone care to make a
motion to close the public comment period thank you very much is there a
second second thank you for that too all those in favor of closing the comment
please say aye we're
off to item 7a a public hearing on a request to
rezone parcel can
we call it Burnside Steve you're up thank you sir
I'm
somewhat familiar because we just had a very similar project right across the street out here out on Prairie Island on Chakya Street.
This proposal is a public hearing for a rezoning to rezone 1808 Chakya Street from Egg Residential AR to R1, so single family residential.
The homeowner here is looking at replacing the home on the site.
So demoing the home and putting a new home on the site.
The existing AR zoning would not allow the new home to go on the site without a variance due to setbacks because of the width.
It's only about 100 feet wide.
And so just like all the other homes on Choccia Street in this area that are within the city's jurisdiction,
They are looking for an R1 zoning.
They're already hooked up to Prairie Island's water and sewer system.
They already get access from the road, which is part of the Tribal Road system out there.
It's not a city of Red Wing Road.
And so if you recall a couple meetings ago when we did the rezoning across the street,
we got letters from Prairie Island indicating that they'd be able to hook up the new parcels
that were being created with the subdivision and the rezoning. We've
asked those of Prairie Island now and they're working on those as well and we
really as staff have no concern that Prairie Island isn't going to allow this
existing homeowner to hook up with the with the new home. So we should have
those hopefully by tomorrow or Thursday and we'll get those into the
council packet if you board along. We feel so comfortable with that we
didn't even put a condition of approval into your recommendation tonight. But
very very consistent with the trend out there since Prairie Island has the water
and sewer we've had several other homes in the area hook into their system where
otherwise we would not allow a home to be built on that site because we
require two and a half acres for a well-inceptic which most of these
parcels don't have out here. So again we have put together some suggested
findings of fact for you to support the change in zoning from AR to R1 and we
are recommending that tonight for you to make that recommendation to City
Council and if you do have any questions I'd be willing to answer them.
I do I did include a came in a little late one
Letter of support for this which I will read once you open public hearing or just comment on but just to let you know
That did get in the packet. So it's in the official packet, but it was a little bit late coming soon
All right, any questions for mr. Cohen before we open the meeting
Public hearing of course is what I meant. We're already open. Thanks for not pointing that out
Great hearing none. Let's open the public hearing or remind
Everyone who wishes to speak remind us that everyone who wishes to speak will be allowed to do so
We'll limit our comments to three minutes or less. All statements should be directed to the chair
They should be factual. We should refrain from repeating what's already been said not involve personalities
Before speaking, please state your name and address for the recorder and after the close of the public hearing
No additional testimony may be offered except in response to questions from the Commission
So with the hearing open, are there any comments or anybody online to make comments?
Any public comments about it?
Yes ma'am, please.
You needn't state your name again for the record.
You're the same person that was just here.
Thank you, sir.
Yes.
I appreciate you.
Chair Sieberg.
So I just have a, this might be a simple or weird question, but I'll ask another one.
I'll have to ask it later.
This doesn't change the property line at all, correct?
No.
There's just it's just exactly where it is right now if there's no subdivision involved with this just the rezoning
Okay, so that so a new house can be built because it's right next door to someplace where I spend a lot of time
So it's just double-checking. Yeah, there's no change in property lines
It's just a matter of zoning and same use is going to go back on the property perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much
Any other comments any other comments? I'm still not seeing a single soul online
Steve this might be a good time if you don't mind to summarize the comment you
did receive. I know you all have copies of it and I actually put written copies or
printed copies on the desk in front of you. We had one comment come in prior to
the public hearing from Corey Western Boy and if you remember she was the
property owner right across the street that rezoned so she could subdivide her
parcel into three so she had a nice letter there just supporting the rezoning
request so again I'm not gonna read it but it's very very well stated supports
the need for the rezoning out there for this property owner and she supports it
thank you sir well for a final time any other public comments were hearing none
anyone care to make a motion to close the public hearing? So moved. Thank you. Sue was there a second? I'll second that. Brad thank you for the
second. All those in favor of that closure please say aye. Aye. The opposed? Great. The hearing's closed.
Commissioners, what would you like to do next? I
think it's pretty straightforward. I don't have any comments and
move to accept it as written your three zone 1808 Chuck yes street from AR2 R1
there's a motion I would second that motion a second to approve it just as it
was presented in the packet given to us by those kinds folks at development any
comments or questions it seems like we've been here before with a couple
other properties so yeah pretty easy we're hearing nothing in addition all
in favor of approving that motion. Please say aye.
Aye.
Anybody opposed?
Great. Motion carries. Thank you and thank you, Steve.
We're up to a status report from the staff.
Anything you'd like to report from your part of the world?
Not really. Just a couple real quick comments.
Kyle's been working more on the Jefferson School RFP,
but it sounds like there's a ton of interest.
And you could be seeing up to somewhere near 10 proposals coming in
when when those are due and so there's been a lot of interest sparked by the
Port Authority's kind of due diligence prior that made some developers a little
more comfortable in coming in so that is one thing I also want to mention you
might seem some mobilization going on down at the farmer malting building and
so hopefully that demolition is going to start very quickly here they're
trying to start getting some equipment on site and trying to get some work
started.
Please, yes sir. Asking for a friend.
Any any information on parking
timeline for that or needs for the teardown from parking along Broad Street
there? Yeah at some point we'll have to have a pop done to block off some of
that during that part of the demolition.
I think most of the stuff that will happen
in the near future is gonna be some internal stuff
bringing out some equipment,
but walls won't be coming down
from what I understand maybe in the September.
So, but there will be a time that they'll have to bring
that in to block that off just for safety.
When too, Brian, you're looking for like a perspective
of time for his members right for parking. Put some information on like hey by the way. Yeah there
would I think believe it will have to go through the council for that one to block the street off
for that long of a period I think. I'm trying to think there's certain levels where it goes through
council and where it doesn't but obviously we don't want anybody to get hurt or their
vehicles to get damaged so it might be a point where it comes it's blocked off
building gets demoed and then you can park there again while they're in a
different stage but you know between the equipment cranes everything that's
going to be needed to do that project you know two levels of parking and
Or five stories on top of it. There's going to be some big equipment sitting down there
for quite a while while that gets constructed.
Do you foresee at all that it'll be the whole street for a while?
No, I think it would just be the part. I think they would, from what I've heard,
they'd keep Broad Street open. It would just be the parking stalls that would be
blocked there, right along the sidewalk. So the sidewalk and the parking
installs. Worst case, it would turn into a one-way. I wouldn't see them closing all of
Broad Street.
Do I have a talk for the trucks?
Well, thanks. I appreciate it.
Thank you, sir. Well, we can move to item 8B, which is Commissioner Comments. Have you
any?
I just want to commend the Port Authority for their outreach. I think that they did
great job in soliciting RFPs or putting RFP out there and getting it seemed like it was more
accurate.
I don't know how did this if I can I don't know the process either. So two comments
earlier is what would that process look like if it came back to this community for rezoning
option or yeah the RM3 and then I would also ask do we actually have authority
to put something in place that has guardrails or are we only able to in this
committee rezone? No you could look at RM2 or you could look at redoing what
RM3 is and what your regulations are but really the only reason there was
guardrails on Jefferson School is because the Port Authority controlled
the property. If it's privately owned you can't put conditions on rezoning. You
couldn't say yeah we're gonna rezone it to this if you do this or that. You would
have to go back and do a tax amendment and change the RM3 to something totally
different that would affect not only that site but the Jefferson site and the
Briarwood site too because those are the only three you know two are zone that
way now in the third one you know as you know did not get approved in that
manner. So doing those guardrails in that sense would probably mean a text
amendment or are just going with RM2. Okay, that's why I asked that. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Thanks for that clarification too. Well, hearing nothing
else, I, unless there's an objection, I wonder if we can't adjourn. Well, I think
we can. Thank you all very much for your time today. And we are adjourned.
That's going to be one of the quickest meetings.