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Well, let's call this meeting to order. This meeting of the advisory planning commission

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is regular meeting held on the 18th of August, 2026, here at the council chambers at City

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Hall. And if you wouldn't mind, join me in being upstanding and we'll say the Pledge

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of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation under

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the command. Please be seated and thank you very much.

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Well, the roll calls pretty straightforward this evening.

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We're missing a member.

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George reached out ahead of time.

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And so with your approval, we can make a motion to do that,

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we would excuse George's absence.

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I swear it's legit.

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So moved.

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Thank you, sir.

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Is there a second?

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All those I think we stand with.

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There's all kinds of person.

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Yes, there is.

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All those in favor of approving that absence, please, AI.

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Aye.

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Anybody opposed?

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Great.

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Thank you.

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We've an agenda for this evening's meeting.

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I hope you had a chance to take a look.

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And I wonder if anybody would like to make a motion to approve it. Thank you very much, Brian. Is there a second I'll second that thank you

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Brad any comments questions?

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Hearing none all those in favor of approving the agenda. Please say aye. Aye. What opposed and the minutes from our last meeting very

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Detail rich minutes from our last meeting

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Having had a chance to look through them and of course thank the person that put them together

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When anyone care to move approval or or make an amendment beforehand

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So moved to approve as presented.

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Thank you, Sue, is there a second?

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Any comments, questions?

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Hearing none, all those in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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We are up to item six on the agenda, a public comment period.

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We now invite anyone to share their thoughts on the topic, not on the agenda.

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We welcome all opinions and ideas.

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Appreciate you stating your name at the lecture.

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And remember the personal attacks may be ruled out of order.

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You will have up to three minutes to comment,

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and we appreciate your time coming tonight.

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Does anyone have any comments to make about an item not on the agenda?

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Yes, ma'am, please step to the mic and Vicki say who you are.

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Vicki Jo Lambert, Ward 4. I'm here because I am a member of the City Council.

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And I wanted to address you all at once in public too, because I have still big feelings about multifamily housing in our community.

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And as most of you know, I was part of the process with coming up with RM3.

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I completely agree with that, but my invitation for us is to consider as I went into the last

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meeting with a yes-vote.

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And as I heard what Becky had to say about the options for what could happen with RM2

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as opposed to RM3, at the last moment I said no.

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But I want you to know how much I do support multifamily housing.

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And I think the Bayview site is an appropriate site for all that we have been talking about.

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And I absolutely trust the process.

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And I trust our staff because they're highly skilled and they've been doing this way longer

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than I ever will.

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And I also am listening to a number of members of our community.

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And those people who are in our community, I want them to feel like they do have a

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voice because they do.

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And I was listening to them as well.

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So as complicated as I feel about that decision, I wanted to let you know why I said what I said.

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And I continue to support multifamily housing and I continue to support a multifamily rezoning for the Bayview area.

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And I'm going to invite you as a commission to revisit that if you are willing, if that's an option.

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I don't know the process.

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but I'm inviting you to do that because I think if we talked about that as the RM2

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that we had discussed earlier or if there could be similar I get I don't

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know the right word but if there could be a similar thing called guardrails

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up on RM3 so it looks similar to RM2 even with that increased density that

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would be my invitation for us to revisit and look at so that people in the

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community don't get so uptight about the people running away and doing things

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and I don't think they will but I think at the end of the day when we're looking

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at what what is best for everyone involved my invitation for us is to

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consider that

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thank you thank you thank you thank you very much a nicer guy

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would have led with a more formal council member Lambert please come up

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and say something but thank you thank you very much for your comments any

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other any other comments tonight we're hearing on what anyone care to make a

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motion to close the public comment period thank you very much is there a

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second second thank you for that too all those in favor of closing the comment

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off to item 7a a public hearing on a request to

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rezone parcel can

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we call it Burnside Steve you're up thank you sir

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somewhat familiar because we just had a very similar project right across the street out here out on Prairie Island on Chakya Street.

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This proposal is a public hearing for a rezoning to rezone 1808 Chakya Street from Egg Residential AR to R1, so single family residential.

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The homeowner here is looking at replacing the home on the site.

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So demoing the home and putting a new home on the site.

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The existing AR zoning would not allow the new home to go on the site without a variance due to setbacks because of the width.

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It's only about 100 feet wide.

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And so just like all the other homes on Choccia Street in this area that are within the city's jurisdiction,

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They are looking for an R1 zoning.

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They're already hooked up to Prairie Island's water and sewer system.

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They already get access from the road, which is part of the Tribal Road system out there.

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It's not a city of Red Wing Road.

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And so if you recall a couple meetings ago when we did the rezoning across the street,

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we got letters from Prairie Island indicating that they'd be able to hook up the new parcels

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that were being created with the subdivision and the rezoning. We've

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asked those of Prairie Island now and they're working on those as well and we

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really as staff have no concern that Prairie Island isn't going to allow this

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existing homeowner to hook up with the with the new home. So we should have

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those hopefully by tomorrow or Thursday and we'll get those into the

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council packet if you board along. We feel so comfortable with that we

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didn't even put a condition of approval into your recommendation tonight. But

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very very consistent with the trend out there since Prairie Island has the water

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and sewer we've had several other homes in the area hook into their system where

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otherwise we would not allow a home to be built on that site because we

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require two and a half acres for a well-inceptic which most of these

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parcels don't have out here. So again we have put together some suggested

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findings of fact for you to support the change in zoning from AR to R1 and we

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are recommending that tonight for you to make that recommendation to City

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Council and if you do have any questions I'd be willing to answer them.

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I do I did include a came in a little late one

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Letter of support for this which I will read once you open public hearing or just comment on but just to let you know

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That did get in the packet. So it's in the official packet, but it was a little bit late coming soon

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All right, any questions for mr. Cohen before we open the meeting

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Public hearing of course is what I meant. We're already open. Thanks for not pointing that out

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Great hearing none. Let's open the public hearing or remind

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Everyone who wishes to speak remind us that everyone who wishes to speak will be allowed to do so

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We'll limit our comments to three minutes or less. All statements should be directed to the chair

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They should be factual. We should refrain from repeating what's already been said not involve personalities

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Before speaking, please state your name and address for the recorder and after the close of the public hearing

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No additional testimony may be offered except in response to questions from the Commission

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So with the hearing open, are there any comments or anybody online to make comments?

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Any public comments about it?

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Yes ma'am, please.

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You needn't state your name again for the record.

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You're the same person that was just here.

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Thank you, sir.

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Yes.

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I appreciate you.

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Chair Sieberg.

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So I just have a, this might be a simple or weird question, but I'll ask another one.

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I'll have to ask it later.

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This doesn't change the property line at all, correct?

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There's just it's just exactly where it is right now if there's no subdivision involved with this just the rezoning

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Okay, so that so a new house can be built because it's right next door to someplace where I spend a lot of time

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So it's just double-checking. Yeah, there's no change in property lines

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It's just a matter of zoning and same use is going to go back on the property perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much

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Any other comments any other comments? I'm still not seeing a single soul online

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Steve this might be a good time if you don't mind to summarize the comment you

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did receive. I know you all have copies of it and I actually put written copies or

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printed copies on the desk in front of you. We had one comment come in prior to

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the public hearing from Corey Western Boy and if you remember she was the

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property owner right across the street that rezoned so she could subdivide her

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parcel into three so she had a nice letter there just supporting the rezoning

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request so again I'm not gonna read it but it's very very well stated supports

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the need for the rezoning out there for this property owner and she supports it

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thank you sir well for a final time any other public comments were hearing none

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anyone care to make a motion to close the public hearing? So moved. Thank you. Sue was there a second? I'll second that. Brad thank you for the

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second. All those in favor of that closure please say aye. Aye. The opposed? Great. The hearing's closed.

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Commissioners, what would you like to do next? I

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think it's pretty straightforward. I don't have any comments and

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move to accept it as written your three zone 1808 Chuck yes street from AR2 R1

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there's a motion I would second that motion a second to approve it just as it

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was presented in the packet given to us by those kinds folks at development any

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comments or questions it seems like we've been here before with a couple

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other properties so yeah pretty easy we're hearing nothing in addition all

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in favor of approving that motion. Please say aye.

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Aye.

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Anybody opposed?

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Great. Motion carries. Thank you and thank you, Steve.

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We're up to a status report from the staff.

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Anything you'd like to report from your part of the world?

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Not really. Just a couple real quick comments.

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Kyle's been working more on the Jefferson School RFP,

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but it sounds like there's a ton of interest.

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And you could be seeing up to somewhere near 10 proposals coming in

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when when those are due and so there's been a lot of interest sparked by the

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Port Authority's kind of due diligence prior that made some developers a little

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more comfortable in coming in so that is one thing I also want to mention you

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might seem some mobilization going on down at the farmer malting building and

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so hopefully that demolition is going to start very quickly here they're

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trying to start getting some equipment on site and trying to get some work

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Please, yes sir. Asking for a friend.

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Any any information on parking

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timeline for that or needs for the teardown from parking along Broad Street

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there? Yeah at some point we'll have to have a pop done to block off some of

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that during that part of the demolition.

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I think most of the stuff that will happen

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in the near future is gonna be some internal stuff

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bringing out some equipment,

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but walls won't be coming down

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from what I understand maybe in the September.

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So, but there will be a time that they'll have to bring

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that in to block that off just for safety.

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When too, Brian, you're looking for like a perspective

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of time for his members right for parking. Put some information on like hey by the way. Yeah there

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would I think believe it will have to go through the council for that one to block the street off

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for that long of a period I think. I'm trying to think there's certain levels where it goes through

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council and where it doesn't but obviously we don't want anybody to get hurt or their

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vehicles to get damaged so it might be a point where it comes it's blocked off

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building gets demoed and then you can park there again while they're in a

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different stage but you know between the equipment cranes everything that's

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going to be needed to do that project you know two levels of parking and

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Or five stories on top of it. There's going to be some big equipment sitting down there

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for quite a while while that gets constructed.

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Do you foresee at all that it'll be the whole street for a while?

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No, I think it would just be the part. I think they would, from what I've heard,

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they'd keep Broad Street open. It would just be the parking stalls that would be

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blocked there, right along the sidewalk. So the sidewalk and the parking

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installs. Worst case, it would turn into a one-way. I wouldn't see them closing all of

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Broad Street.

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Do I have a talk for the trucks?

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Well, thanks. I appreciate it.

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Thank you, sir. Well, we can move to item 8B, which is Commissioner Comments. Have you

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I just want to commend the Port Authority for their outreach. I think that they did

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great job in soliciting RFPs or putting RFP out there and getting it seemed like it was more

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accurate.

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I don't know how did this if I can I don't know the process either. So two comments

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earlier is what would that process look like if it came back to this community for rezoning

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option or yeah the RM3 and then I would also ask do we actually have authority

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to put something in place that has guardrails or are we only able to in this

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committee rezone? No you could look at RM2 or you could look at redoing what

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RM3 is and what your regulations are but really the only reason there was

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guardrails on Jefferson School is because the Port Authority controlled

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the property. If it's privately owned you can't put conditions on rezoning. You

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couldn't say yeah we're gonna rezone it to this if you do this or that. You would

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have to go back and do a tax amendment and change the RM3 to something totally

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different that would affect not only that site but the Jefferson site and the

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Briarwood site too because those are the only three you know two are zone that

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way now in the third one you know as you know did not get approved in that

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manner. So doing those guardrails in that sense would probably mean a text

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amendment or are just going with RM2. Okay, that's why I asked that. Thank you.

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Appreciate it. Thanks for that clarification too. Well, hearing nothing

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else, I, unless there's an objection, I wonder if we can't adjourn. Well, I think

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we can. Thank you all very much for your time today. And we are adjourned.

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That's going to be one of the quickest meetings.