[0:00] 
[0:07] OK thank you.
[0:11] 
[0:15] OK thanks for your patience.
[0:18] Welcome to the city council
meeting for August 25.
[0:22] I don't think pastor
Jason made it.
[0:24] So we'll start with the
Pledge of Allegiance
[0:26] that John will lead
us in this way.
[0:30] Oh, I pledge
allegiance to the flag
[0:37] of the United States of
America and to the Republic
[0:40] for which it stands.
[0:42] One nation under
God, indivisible,
[0:45] with liberty and
justice for all.
[0:47] 
[0:54] We're going to have a couple
of things at the front.
[0:57] And first is we have a visitor
here from Republic services.
[1:02] They want to come up.
[1:04] We need to establish a quorum.
[1:06] Oh, yeah.
[1:08] Get ahead of myself.
[1:08] Go ahead.
[1:11] Counselor Evelyn.
[1:13] Here mayor Fitch here.
[1:15] Counselor Nielsen here.
[1:17] Counselor Osborne here.
[1:18] Counselor Patrick.
[1:19] Here counselor.
[1:20] Wedding here.
[1:21] Counselor Zwicker.
[1:22] OK So if you guys want to
come on up, that'd be great.
[1:27] 
[1:31] Sounds good.
[1:33] Thank you.
[1:34] Commissioner yeah.
[1:36] Speak speak.
[1:38] All right.
[1:38] I can figure it out.
[1:40] Well, thank you for having
me today, Mr. mayor.
[1:42] Council members.
[1:43] My name is Wes Davis.
[1:44] I'm the new general manager
for Republic services
[1:47] in Central Oregon, which
means I work for you guys.
[1:52] I have met with your staff.
[1:54] I've heard a lot from
my team about where
[1:58] we're at in this market.
[2:00] And I am new, so it's my
chance to ask for feedback
[2:06] about how we can be better.
[2:08] And what we can do to
better serve our community.
[2:11] Honestly, obviously this
is an essential service.
[2:14] It's something really
important to the community
[2:16] so that we're healthy,
safe, sanitary at all times.
[2:19] And I take that
charge very seriously.
[2:23] What I'd like to do is 1, make
sure you guys know who I am.
[2:27] So I've been with
Republic for five years.
[2:30] I was most recently a general
manager in North Idaho.
[2:32] Coeur d'Alene specifically.
[2:34] Beautiful area.
[2:35] If you've ever been up there.
[2:37] And there's not many places
in the country or world,
[2:40] frankly, that I'd rather
be, but this is one of them.
[2:44] I chose to come here.
[2:45] I wanted to come here.
[2:45] I hope to be here
for many, many years
[2:48] and be your partner
for those years.
[2:51] Before that, I was in
the army for six years.
[2:53] So I've learned quite a bit.
[2:55] I've learned a lot.
[2:56] One of the things I've
learned is you learn
[2:58] a lot by seeing the situation.
[3:00] So one, I want to invite all of
you at all times, at any time,
[3:04] to come out and do a ride
along or see our facility
[3:07] and understand where the
rubber meets the road
[3:09] and what we're working
on for the community
[3:11] to better serve you.
[3:13] I also want to make sure you
all have a direct line to me.
[3:16] Obviously, I work with
your staff right now.
[3:20] But I work for you guys.
[3:22] I also work for all
the people of Redmond.
[3:24] So anybody that you
hear from that needs
[3:27] help because they've been
online for 40 minutes
[3:30] and aren't getting
an issue resolved.
[3:31] I'd love to hear about
that because that's
[3:33] my job to fix that.
[3:34] If I don't know about it,
I'm probably not going
[3:35] to be able to do
much about it, so I'd
[3:37] love to get that feedback.
[3:38] I love feedback, hearing what's
going on, what the issues are,
[3:42] and how else I can
make this better.
[3:46] I think that's pretty
much all I got.
[3:47] I want to make sure you
guys got to see me today.
[3:51] I'll stand for any questions
or comments at this point,
[3:53] but I don't know that you
guys are prepared necessarily.
[3:58] It could be a long
night if we did that.
[3:59] But hey, I'm happy to be with
you individually if you do
[4:02] want to take time to prepare.
[4:04] All right.
[4:05] Thank you.
[4:05] Because I understand it
could be a long night,
[4:07] and I want to do
what I can to fix it.
[4:09] All right.
[4:10] Thank you, thank you.
[4:13] Next tonight on our agenda,
we have a second reading
[4:15] on the fireworks ordinance.
[4:19] I don't know if anyone's
here on the fireworks,
[4:22] but there won't be a
public comment period.
[4:23] So I just wanted to
bring that out front.
[4:27] And with that, we'll move
on to the consent agenda,
[4:30] which is made up of
the minutes of June 15,
[4:33] the minutes of June 23,
the minutes of June 30,
[4:36] North point vista
phase I infrastructure
[4:38] project change order
number 5 with Taylor
[4:40] Northwest for $47,313.95.
[4:44] A purchase authorization
for heavy duty
[4:46] mobile column
lifts for the fleet
[4:48] services of $120,070.32, cents.
[4:52] Amendment number one to the
design contract with Kittleson
[4:55] associates for the Northwest,
19th and Northwest maple traffic
[4:58] signal project TR
2412 for 26,001 99
[5:03] and the September recognitions.
[5:06] Is there a motion to
approve the consent agenda.
[5:09] I move to approve
the consent agenda.
[5:11] Second moved and second.
[5:12] Any further discussion.
[5:14] All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[5:16] Aye OK.
[5:17] Next, we have a
presentation one we
[5:20] always look forward to the
fourth quarter financial report.
[5:23] 
[5:30] Good evening, Mayor and council.
[5:32] Jason Neff deputy city manager
chief financial officer so,
[5:35] yeah, we are bringing the fiscal
year 2526 year end report.
[5:43] So you can see the
highlights there.
[5:49] On that blue box I
think they can see it.
[5:52] OK thank you.
[5:54] Come on.
[5:54] Jason there you go.
[6:00] Now you can see them.
[6:02] So in that blue box is
our financial highlights
[6:05] for the year.
[6:06] I should mention
these are unaudited
[6:08] but numbers aren't moving
much at this point.
[6:11] James Wood and his team
are doing a great job
[6:13] of finalizing things.
[6:15] So operating expenses
for the year.
[6:18] We spent 4% less than budget.
[6:21] That's pretty
typical for Redman.
[6:23] We spend typically about 5% I
think where we were a little bit
[6:26] surprised is the general
fund spent about 2%
[6:31] So under our budget.
[6:34] So we were caught a little
bit surprised there.
[6:37] 
[6:40] Looking at some of the
revenues, property taxes,
[6:44] we were slightly
higher than budget
[6:48] franchise fees is kind of where
we missed it a little bit.
[6:53] Good example.
[6:54] We were 300,000 down in
franchise fees versus budget.
[6:57] Good example is in
September of 2025,
[7:00] cascade natural gas
dropped their rates
[7:03] by 16% We typically would
assume maybe a 3% increase.
[7:08] So something we
didn't anticipate.
[7:12] Also, you might
remember Pacific Power
[7:15] dropped dropped their
rates by almost a percent.
[7:17] So those two alone
kind of missed
[7:19] the mark on franchise fees.
[7:22] Overall, we're carrying an
operating deficit in the end
[7:25] of the year, $800,000,
or about 2.7%
[7:30] That's for the general fund.
[7:32] We anticipated that might
happen this year in our budget.
[7:36] We tighten things
up quite a bit.
[7:38] We carried into the
budget a 3% deficit.
[7:41] So I still am confident
we will see that dissipate
[7:45] throughout the fiscal year.
[7:48] But something we'll
keep an eye on.
[7:51] The water fund was
break even this year.
[7:54] 3,000 positives on
a $9 million budget.
[7:57] So I think our rates are
right where they should be.
[7:59] The wastewater fund.
[8:01] Obviously we got the wetlands
project going full steam ahead.
[8:06] The DEQ loan is going
to be about $2.2 million
[8:13] eventually coming
into our budget.
[8:15] Now we've got about $800,000
surplus in wastewater.
[8:19] We're going to see about
800,000 of other debt drop off
[8:22] over the next couple of years.
[8:23] And we're also anticipating
about a half a million savings
[8:26] on our treatment costs.
[8:28] So we're going to get there
with regards to our ability
[8:31] to afford that project.
[8:33] You look at the airport,
passenger traffic was up 3,
[8:38] 3.2% the prior year.
[8:42] Overall, we had a $6.9
million operating surplus,
[8:46] you'll recall, council gave
us the authorization to issue
[8:49] all the debt for the terminal.
[8:50] And in two budgets
from now, we're
[8:53] going to be spending
about $7 million a year
[8:56] on that debt service.
[8:57] So we are spot on
where we should
[9:00] be with regards to
being able to afford
[9:02] that terminal debt service.
[9:04] 
[9:06] So those are the highlights.
[9:07] I know we got a lot to talk
about tonight and other stuff.
[9:12] I can take questions
from council.
[9:14] Any questions for Jason.
[9:16] I think we went over this before
but basically a good report.
[9:21] So thank you.
[9:22] You're welcome.
[9:24] Let's see.
[9:25] Next, we have a public
hearing and this is resolution
[9:28] 2026 19 a resolution of the
city of Redmond, Oregon,
[9:32] adopting a tiered rate
structure for the water utility.
[9:37] Josh with assistance
from finance.
[9:54] 
[10:01] Evening mayor and council.
[10:02] Josh, wedding operations
manager for the city of Redmond.
[10:07] And tonight, before I get
into the presentation,
[10:09] just to let our consultant.
[10:11] She's a remote again
and her name is Deb.
[10:13] And I'll go ahead and
give her the opportunity
[10:14] to introduce herself.
[10:18] Good evening.
[10:19] Mayor and council, Deb Gulati.
[10:20] Galati, Rothstein group.
[10:22] And I'll be supporting
Josh on the presentation.
[10:25] Thank you.
[10:27] Yeah thank you.
[10:28] Deb so this is the
same presentation
[10:31] that I gave back in July 25.
[10:33] It's a little bit more
of a condensed version,
[10:36] but I always look for a little
bit of a few more tidbits
[10:38] of information that I
can give you guys to help
[10:41] better inform your decisions.
[10:43] Hey, Josh, before
I forget, I'm going
[10:45] to open the public hearing,
so this will be part of it.
[10:48] Thank you.
[10:49] Go ahead.
[10:50] All right.
[10:51] 
[10:53] All right.
[10:54] On the first slide
here, what this shows
[10:57] is what the fixed
volumetric rate is currently
[11:01] and what the volumetric
rate could go to.
[11:03] Should a tiered rate be adopted
in tiers 1, 2, 3, and 4.
[11:09] I would be remiss to say
that I didn't point out
[11:11] the last presentation that tiers
1 and 2 were structured as such,
[11:15] so that there would be 0
impact to the household
[11:19] in the wintertime months,
the non irrigation months.
[11:21] To put that in
perspective for you,
[11:23] an average residential home uses
about 35,600 gallons a month
[11:28] on the non irrigation months.
[11:30] And so nine tiers really
or excuse me, 12 tiers.
[11:34] Really what that allows you
to do is use about 12,000
[11:36] gallons or sorry 5,000 gallons.
[11:38] 9,000 gallons.
[11:39] Sorry math was wrong.
[11:40] I get a lot of numbers in my
head, about 9,000 gallons with
[11:45] really no impact to the bill.
[11:49] As we can see.
[11:49] Tier 3 here.
[11:50] You can take that all the way
up to about 15,700 gallons.
[11:55] Once again, minimal impact.
[11:57] And then tier four
of course, is really
[11:58] the tier we're focused on.
[12:00] That's a tier where the
opportunity for more
[12:02] efficient water use exists.
[12:04] 
[12:09] What this slide
really points out
[12:11] is the number of accounts
in the summertime that
[12:14] jump into tier 3 and tier four.
[12:16] It's hard to say.
[12:17] From this bar graph you know
exactly where that customer
[12:20] lands in tier three or tier 4.
[12:22] You could be one
unit into tier 4
[12:24] and you could show up
in the red bar here.
[12:28] What this also points out is
what I mentioned in the earlier
[12:30] slide, the minimal impact
in increase in tier 3
[12:34] and even into tier three.
[12:35] Even into tier, excuse me, tier
2 and into tier 3, taking it all
[12:40] the way up to 15,700 gallons.
[12:43] The bill impact there.
[12:44] The increase is $33.50.
[12:48] So it's not a lot.
[12:49] Tier 4 once again is the
tier that we're focused on.
[12:53] Also, once again, what I
was not able to point out
[12:55] in the previous presentation
is, as you can see in January,
[12:58] February, March,
November and December,
[13:00] you can see that there's
accounts in the black
[13:04] and the red, right.
[13:05] And give you guys an idea
and to get into that Black
[13:09] and then into the red.
[13:10] That's 15,000 gallons
in the wintertime.
[13:13] And so while the impact to the
water utility isn't super great,
[13:16] 95% of that water
is indoor leaks
[13:19] that are going down the drain.
[13:21] And that's an impact
on the sewer system.
[13:23] And so we're really looking
to address those leaks also
[13:25] in the wintertime.
[13:28] So the wintertime you
think you indicated average
[13:30] use is about 3,500 gallons.
[13:33] And that's a month.
[13:34] Yeah that is correct
per household.
[13:36] And the average comes out PSU
average is 2.42 times 50 times
[13:40] 31.
[13:40] What would be the average
in the summertime.
[13:43] Let's see.
[13:43] An average home with indoor
use and a 1,500 square foot
[13:47] yard is about $15,000 a month.
[13:55] Questions move on.
[13:57] Nope I have a question.
[13:59] Are these the numbers you're
showing here on the graph.
[14:01] I'm assuming on the left side of
the graph is gallons per minute.
[14:05] Is this historic usage that
you extrapolated to determine
[14:09] two years, 3, and 4.
[14:11] The left hand side
of the graph is.
[14:12] Number of accounts.
[14:13] Number of accounts.
[14:14] OK gotcha.
[14:15] OK gotcha.
[14:16] OK Accumulated accounts
throughout the city.
[14:18] Perfect thank you.
[14:19] 
[14:25] All right.
[14:25] This next pie chart.
[14:26] So 5% of single family
residential demand,
[14:30] short term reductions.
[14:32] So conservatively we're looking
for this to conserve about 5%
[14:38] In the short term that
amounts to about 60
[14:42] to 75 million gallons a year.
[14:44] And then of course, as
the program progresses,
[14:47] we're looking for long term
reductions of 10% or better.
[14:50] So 10% on the
residential demand yearly
[14:53] would be 500 million gallons,
which would be pretty nice.
[14:58] It's a great opportunity
to align our water use
[15:00] with our water right
constraints and also
[15:03] focus on the long term capacity
of the natural resource.
[15:07] We all live here.
[15:08] We know the number
of droughts we've
[15:10] seen over the last five years.
[15:12] And so this just
gives us a better
[15:13] opportunity to
bring our water use
[15:15] into more efficient capacity.
[15:18] From my perspective, capital
project deferment is a huge one.
[15:24] The more we can meet the
growing needs of the needs
[15:26] of the community without
constructing Wells,
[15:29] booster pump stations
and reservoirs,
[15:31] that's efficiency to me.
[15:33] 
[15:41] The 21% in tier four.
[15:43] And so what this pie
chart really represents
[15:45] is the percentage of
Bills throughout the year
[15:47] that occur in those tiers.
[15:50] And so to point out that
the 21% in tier four
[15:53] accounts for 30% of the
water is used annually.
[15:56] And if we just really
do the quick math there,
[15:58] we've got 37% between
tier 4 and tier 3,
[16:02] and we have 63%
of the total bills
[16:04] that occur in tiers 1 and 2.
[16:06] 
[16:09] Do we have a breakdown on
residential and commercial
[16:11] for tier 4.
[16:13] This is strictly
just residential.
[16:14] Just residential.
[16:15] Just residential.
[16:16] Thank you.
[16:16] 
[16:23] And this is our bill profile.
[16:25] So what this is
doing this is taking
[16:27] the average of the high bill.
[16:29] This takes all the
data that we've
[16:31] compiled over the
last couple of years,
[16:33] and the average of the high
bill was 59 billable units.
[16:37] So to put that in perspective,
the mayor loves gallons.
[16:40] That's 44,000 gallons.
[16:43] And so if you guys
will remember, I think,
[16:46] told councilor Zwicker, the
average home in July utilizes
[16:49] about 15,000 gallons on
a 1,500 square foot yard,
[16:52] including indoor indoor use.
[16:56] So what this shows is if this
average high bill didn't change
[17:01] their water usage
and they continued
[17:03] to water at 44,000
gallons a month, the bill
[17:07] impact would be $25.61.
[17:10] And I like to use July July's.
[17:12] It's when we see
the highest use.
[17:15] And so your bill
impact would be $25.61
[17:19] with a tiered rate adoption.
[17:21] 
[17:30] And moving on.
[17:31] And if you guys have
questions on how this looks
[17:33] on the bill, Valerie billing
manager, she's in the audience
[17:36] and she might be able to answer
any more targeted questions.
[17:41] But council had kind of
asked, hey, what kind
[17:43] of information what kind of.
[17:47] What kind of things can we do
on the bill to inform customers
[17:50] of what their
previous year's water
[17:52] use would have looked like
with a tier bill applied to it.
[17:57] And so what we've done
here is put on there.
[17:59] This is what an average
bill would look like.
[18:02] We also have the opportunity to
take the individuals 12 month
[18:07] use and apply that month
over month over month
[18:10] to show them what that would
look if a tiered rate was
[18:14] applied to 2025 use.
[18:25] Moving on.
[18:26] 
[18:28] So this is the
implementation timeline.
[18:32] So obviously right now we're
looking for an adoption today.
[18:40] And what we would like
to do is implement
[18:42] in either April or October.
[18:46] 
[18:49] First and so I think if we
whichever way we implemented,
[18:58] I think the key is what I
understand is educating people
[19:01] what their bill looks
like now and what
[19:03] it would look like under the
tiered rate ahead of time.
[19:08] That is correct.
[19:09] So we would get working on
getting those out so customers
[19:12] could start looking
in that viewing,
[19:14] viewing what their
water use would
[19:15] look applied to a tiered rate.
[19:17] So when April came, there
wouldn't be any big surprises.
[19:21] And as I understand it,
we have the capability
[19:23] of doing that now pre April.
[19:27] Is that that's a question
more than a statement.
[19:32] And nodding is yes OK.
[19:34] Yeah Valerie Taylor,
billing and collections
[19:44] manager we would actually
October with the bill
[19:47] we sent in October.
[19:48] That would be the earliest
that we could start
[19:49] this communication,
but that would
[19:51] give us enough time to do that.
[19:53] And then we could continue
doing it from there forward.
[19:57] So just to take it
one step further,
[19:58] people would see water
consumption is now
[20:02] and what the rate is and what
the consumption in the future
[20:04] would be with the tiered rate.
[20:07] And then I assume
we can provide them
[20:09] the tools as to
whether they want
[20:11] to lower that consumption with
the rebate programs we have
[20:15] and other possibilities.
[20:17] Yes, correct.
[20:18] So we would do the 12
month view and then
[20:21] we do their current
usage with the tier.
[20:24] And then we would also
make our communication plan
[20:26] for education and outreach.
[20:28] Any other John.
[20:31] I have a non billing question.
[20:33] So we have a stated goal.
[20:35] As a city we want to
reduce water usage
[20:36] by 10% This is the
Tiered water system
[20:40] is not designed as a
punishment for people
[20:42] who are wasting water.
[20:43] But it's designed as
more of a carrot model
[20:45] to try to get that
reduction down.
[20:48] Where have we seen this
implemented in other cities,
[20:53] and what kind of reductions
have we seen in those cities
[20:56] that have brought this forth.
[20:58] It's a great question.
[20:59] That's a great
question, councilor.
[21:01] I'm actually going
to pass this one off
[21:02] to Deb since she deals
with so many utilities
[21:05] throughout the nation.
[21:08] Sure So I've worked with
the city of Tucson, Arizona
[21:12] for years, and obviously
they're in a very water
[21:15] scarce environment.
[21:17] And we saw over a 10 year period
a actually even larger than 10%
[21:26] reduction in their rates or
in their water consumption.
[21:32] Part of it is the structure
itself sends a conservation
[21:38] oriented message pricing
incentive to customers
[21:43] to understand about
the scarcity of water
[21:46] and the cost of those using
water during the peak season.
[21:52] The other variable is the price.
[21:55] So for the initial
implementation
[21:58] we have set there's
two objectives.
[22:01] One is to send that
conservation incentive
[22:04] by pricing those upper
tiers at a higher rate.
[22:09] But also we don't want
the rate for anybody
[22:11] to decrease because that sends
kind of a confusing message.
[22:15] So in the future the city can
monitor what the customer's
[22:22] response is in
terms of water use,
[22:25] and then continue to
progressively increase
[22:28] those upper tier rates as needed
to send a more pronounced price,
[22:38] provide a pricing incentive or
just seeing these can be tweaked
[22:45] as you move forward
during this plan
[22:49] to balance of your affordability
and your conservation
[22:54] objectives.
[22:55] But studies have shown that
even just the rate structure
[23:00] itself can result in
about a 2% reduction
[23:04] in water use and the pricing.
[23:08] Then, depending on how
high those rates are
[23:13] and how much they
increase, that results
[23:16] in the additional conservation.
[23:18] And we've seen this
work in Arizona
[23:20] and in other Oregon communities
and across the nation.
[23:26] So one more follow
up question on that.
[23:30] So do you have experience
in terms of lead time.
[23:33] Because obviously the
education piece of this
[23:36] is going to be huge to
get this out to folks.
[23:38] Have you seen what is the sweet
spot between where we're giving
[23:42] them enough time
to adapt, but not
[23:44] so long that that's kind of
falling off of their mind,
[23:47] and they get surprised with
it when the implementation
[23:49] finally does come into play.
[23:51] 
[23:53] Yeah, I think, a six
month time period
[23:56] is sufficient and
is that sweet spot,
[24:02] assuming that the billing
system is able to produce
[24:06] the Bills and the other
customer service material
[24:10] and that you've got the
rebates and other elements
[24:14] of the program in place as
someone pointed out, to support
[24:18] the customers in actually using
less water in implementing
[24:22] conservation practices.
[24:24] Thank you.
[24:25] OK go ahead.
[24:28] 
[24:31] That is the end of
my presentation.
[24:33] All right, Jason, do you
guys want to add anything.
[24:38] All right.
[24:40] We'll go to public comment then.
[24:42] Is there anyone
here who would like
[24:44] to speak on the tiered
water rate proposal.
[24:49] Seeing none, we'll close
the public hearing.
[24:54] And let's see where we're at.
[24:57] We're at the motion.
[24:59] But shouldn't this be April.
[25:00] Yes So the motion we'd want
to adopt it affected April 1.
[25:08] April 1.
[25:09] March 1.
[25:11] OK OK.
[25:13] So what we have.
[25:15] All right.
[25:15] So is there a motion.
[25:17] Ocean I'm already talking.
[25:18] I guess I move to adopt
resolution number 2026 19
[25:22] adopting the water tiered
rate effective April 1, 2027.
[25:27] Second moved in second.
[25:29] Any further discussion.
[25:31] Sure I just want to tell staff
I appreciate all the work
[25:37] you guys are doing to try and
figure out how to let the public
[25:41] know what they're
going to be charged.
[25:43] I really appreciate that.
[25:47] However, I disagree with rising
costs when especially when there
[25:54] are no projects lined
up for the extra money,
[25:57] they're just going back
into more conservation.
[26:02] So we aren't.
[26:05] And the reason that plays
so little in my mind is.
[26:12] The city of Redmond
uses three to maybe 4%
[26:16] of the water in Central Oregon.
[26:19] So 55 million gallons
is a lot of water.
[26:24] But the big picture
things, it's not very much.
[26:29] I just can't support rising
costs for people who live here.
[26:35] Live in Redmond.
[26:37] I'm trying to think of ways we
can go down rather than go up.
[26:43] So that's it.
[26:45] 
[26:47] Any other comment.
[26:50] I'll just say that water is
going to be the critical policy
[26:55] in the decades to come.
[26:56] 
[26:59] We are in a very resource
challenged situation
[27:03] in Central Oregon on water.
[27:06] One of the balances of getting
additional water rights
[27:11] is establishing some rational
level of conservation,
[27:15] which I think this does.
[27:18] I think if people
do it the right way
[27:20] and their bill will
not be increased, if it
[27:24] is, it's almost imperceptibly.
[27:28] That is $25 for
the year, but this
[27:32] is the cost we pay
for a long drought
[27:36] and an aquifer that's being
very challenged at the time.
[27:40] So all those in favor
of the resolution
[27:44] signify by saying Aye.
[27:45] Aye Opposed.
[27:48] Aye OK.
[27:51] Next, we have
contract review board,
[27:54] an award of a five year
agreement with Una avionics
[27:57] corporation for the flight time
airborne position reference tool
[28:02] and service contract
at the Redmond
[28:03] Municipal Airport for $242,820.
[28:10] Gentleman, Mayor and council.
[28:12] I just wanted to
introduce Charles Hanson.
[28:16] He's been with us about a month.
[28:18] He's our new deputy
director of the airport.
[28:21] And I think you've
met Leif before,
[28:23] but he's going to take the
lead on the presentation.
[28:26] All right.
[28:26] Welcome, Charles.
[28:27] 
[28:32] Thank you.
[28:33] 
[28:55] All right.
[28:56] Thank you.
[28:58] Let me get to from
the beginning.
[29:04] There we go.
[29:06] All right.
[29:06] Thank you, Mayor.
[29:07] Thank you.
[29:08] Councilors Leif Andersen, in
Redmond Municipal Airport.
[29:12] Contracts and
properties manager.
[29:14] Tonight, we're going to ask
for authorization to engage
[29:18] in a contract for five years
to acquire a digital solution
[29:25] for mostly our air
traffic control
[29:28] cab staff to enhance safety
situational awareness in the cab
[29:34] tower.
[29:35] The full cost of the contract
relates to the acquisition
[29:38] of the software, the
installation, and the licensing
[29:41] of the software to not only
air traffic control staff,
[29:44] but other stakeholders
around the airport, which
[29:47] we'll explain in a minute.
[29:48] 
[29:56] So first off, the
acronym is apt,
[29:59] which stands for airborne
position reference tool.
[30:03] This is not radar, but it's a
GPS based tool that picks up
[30:11] on ads-b broadcasted aircraft,
which is basically all aircraft,
[30:15] including our
commercial air carriers,
[30:18] and translates that data into
visual screens for air traffic
[30:23] control tower users to look at
and deploy in the cab for safety
[30:29] and awareness Among the
many benefits of the service
[30:36] which are listed here are.
[30:39] Verifying verifying
transponder issues.
[30:41] Assisting in
distressed aircraft.
[30:44] Currently in the tower, we've
got folks with binoculars.
[30:48] This will add to their
ability to quickly
[30:51] ascertain where aircraft are
in the airport environment.
[30:54] This is the only approved vendor
of this particular service
[30:58] for commercial airports
in the GA community.
[31:02] So it's an FAA single
source provider.
[31:05] 
[31:08] This is an example of what
the tower staff would see,
[31:13] as well as other users of
this particular product.
[31:17] It will be very, very similar to
what they will see if they had
[31:21] ever worked in an FAA
tower with full radar
[31:24] surveillance coverage.
[31:26] So it kind of mimics
the same look and effect
[31:29] of what they would have
seen in previous positions
[31:32] in towers that had full
radar surveillance coverage.
[31:35] 
[31:39] As mentioned, this is the
only FAA approved vendor
[31:43] for this particular service.
[31:45] The FAA and the airport
staff have been wanting this
[31:48] and have worked hard on
this particular opportunity
[31:51] for years.
[31:53] We also have very strong
involvement and a proponent
[31:58] within the air carrier
community at the airport,
[32:00] including Alaska Airlines,
who have been very
[32:02] interested in
instrumental in getting
[32:04] this set up for us as well.
[32:06] We did go through a
sole source process
[32:08] through the city's approval
process for this particular cost
[32:14] over a five year period.
[32:15] 
[32:20] And with that, we'll
take any questions.
[32:22] Thank you.
[32:23] So as I understand it,
at a certain elevation,
[32:26] Seattle controls traffic.
[32:30] And then this one is
below that elevation.
[32:34] Yeah correct.
[32:35] This will be this is
below that elevation.
[32:38] This particular tool
will be able to see
[32:39] any ads-b broadcasting
aircraft, but this tool
[32:43] will be basically zoomed in to
the Redmond airport environment
[32:47] to pick up quicker
communications with air
[32:51] traffic control in Seattle.
[32:53] The Seattle air
traffic route center
[32:56] and pilots coming into
the airport environment
[32:59] pick them up on the
screen and then visually
[33:02] verify that they're out
there for their separation
[33:05] service calls for departures,
landings, et cetera.
[33:09] I'll convene the contract
review board retroactively
[33:12] to your beginning leave.
[33:14] So with that, does the
council have any questions
[33:18] or are we ready to move forward.
[33:20] 
[33:23] With a motion.
[33:27] I move to approve the sole
source findings and award
[33:29] the flight line airborne
position reference tool contract
[33:32] to avionics in the amount of
$242,820, and authorize the city
[33:39] manager to sign the contract.
[33:40] Second moved in second.
[33:42] Any further discussion.
[33:43] All those in favor, signify by
saying I. I thank you very much.
[33:48] Thank you mayor.
[33:48] Thank you.
[33:49] Council so we'll
reconvene the council
[33:50] from the contract review board
and we'll go to ordinances.
[33:54] And this is the second
reading of ordinance
[33:56] 2026 regarding fireworks.
[33:58] Is there a motion to have a
second reading by Title only.
[34:03] I move to have to have a second
reading of ordinance 2026 11
[34:07] by Title only.
[34:09] Second moved and seconded.
[34:10] Any further discussion.
[34:12] All those in favor, signify
by saying I. Oh, Jay.
[34:22] Nay OK.
[34:24] City ordinance number 2026-11.
[34:28] An ordinance amending
the Redmond city code,
[34:30] Section 5.305 prohibiting
possession, sale, and use
[34:34] of fireworks in Redmond.
[34:36] Is there a motion to approve.
[34:38] 
[34:41] I move to approve ordinance
2026 11 by roll call vote
[34:46] second a second.
[34:48] Any further discussion
before we have the vote.
[34:51] If not, we'll go
with a roll call.
[34:52] Vote councilor Evelyn.
[34:56] Excuse me.
[34:58] Mayor Fitch.
[34:59] Yes councilor counselor Nielsen.
[35:00] Yes Councilor.
[35:01] Osborne yes.
[35:03] Councilor Patrick.
[35:04] No counselor.
[35:05] Wedding yes.
[35:06] Councilor Zwicker.
[35:07] Yes OK.
[35:10] Next, we have an action items.
[35:12] And the first one
we're going to do
[35:14] is one we discussed
in executive session.
[35:17] It's resolution number 2026 21.
[35:21] Give a little background.
[35:23] Yes mayor.
[35:25] City attorney.
[35:26] So this is coming out
of executive session.
[35:30] It's been before
council twice now.
[35:32] The first time was for
a resolution to initiate
[35:37] eminent domain process.
[35:38] And so the property
concerned in this
[35:41] is the intersection
of ninth and antler.
[35:44] It's part of the
East side arterial.
[35:48] And there's a
section of property
[35:49] that needs to be obtained.
[35:51] In order to complete
this project.
[35:53] It's essential to
continue the project.
[35:57] And so we've been
engaging in negotiations
[36:00] with the property owner to
purchase that piece of property.
[36:03] And as we are continuing
those negotiations,
[36:05] we are also working through the
condemnation process as well.
[36:10] So this resolution is the second
resolution in this process that
[36:15] would authorize staff to file
the condemnation action in city
[36:19] court while we
continue to not seek
[36:22] or I think I said
Circuit Court while we
[36:24] continue the
negotiation process,
[36:26] because it wasn't in the packet.
[36:28] There's two sections to whereas
clauses that I'll read for you
[36:31] and then briefly go over
the approval as well.
[36:35] So this is resolution
number 2026-20.
[36:40] It's similar to
resolution 2026-10.
[36:45] That was the first
resolution of these two.
[36:48] In addition, on this one we
identify the property concerned
[36:52] which are tax lots 02500 and one
(513) And so that's the legal
[37:05] description.
[37:06] Also included in the exhibits
are the actual property
[37:10] descriptions.
[37:12] Additionally, staff has
completed the appraisals
[37:15] and required notices engaged
in the 40 day offer period,
[37:19] which has now expired.
[37:22] Despite these
attempts, we've not
[37:24] managed to settle
on a purchase price
[37:27] of the property, which
is why we're moving
[37:28] forward with this resolution.
[37:31] This resolution will authorize
staff to commence prosecute
[37:35] the condemnation actions.
[37:37] It also authorizes city
manager and city legal counsel
[37:41] to make stipulations,
amendments, agreements,
[37:44] and determine, as they determine
may be in the best interests
[37:48] of the city to make final offer
and negotiate a purchase price
[37:52] for this property if
possible, or continue
[37:56] with the condemnation
in Circuit Court.
[37:58] Any questions.
[38:01] Just one.
[38:01] OK I was just say I have
a clarification question.
[38:04] So we're tonight is
2026-20.-18 correct with
[38:10] our packet for clarification.
[38:13] Thank you.
[38:14] I just want clarification
on one point, which
[38:17] is that no action that
we're taking tonight
[38:20] is going to prevent or interfere
with any ongoing negotiations
[38:24] or ability to
reach an agreement.
[38:26] That is correct.
[38:27] We will continue
those negotiations
[38:29] and we actually can continue
them even after filing all
[38:33] the way through the process.
[38:34] We can continue negotiations.
[38:35] Thank you.
[38:37] Is there a motion to
approve resolution 2026?
[38:41] 20, a resolution authorizing
the acquisition of property.
[38:45] I've got a question.
[38:46] Let me just finish this interest
for the East side arterial
[38:50] projects through
condemnation proceedings
[38:53] when don't we get the motion
and second on the floor
[38:55] and then we'll have discussion.
[38:57] Is there a motion.
[38:58] I move to adopt resolution
number 2020 6-20.
[39:05] I'll second.
[39:06] OK discussion.
[39:07] Jay Keith.
[39:10] This isn't 100% It doesn't
slow the process down.
[39:16] Correct Correct a unanimous
vote is not required.
[39:20] OK OK.
[39:23] Any further discussion.
[39:25] All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[39:27] Aye Opposed.
[39:30] Aye OK, so next we have
resolution 2026 18,
[39:40] a resolution declaring certain
territory in Northwest Redmond
[39:43] as being annexed to and
incorporated within the city
[39:45] of Redmond.
[39:46] Kyle all right.
[39:47] Good evening, Mayor and council.
[39:49] As the mayor just
mentioned, this is a really
[39:51] relatively small annexation.
[39:54] And this is essentially
needed to Annex A little piece
[39:58] of property that's owned by
Hayden homes in off of Northwest
[40:03] way and Northwest Redmond.
[40:04] And you'll see there
on the graphic,
[40:06] it's denoted in the yellow.
[40:08] So all together it's
just over 3/4 of an acre.
[40:11] Again, once we annex that
then subsequently it will
[40:15] be dedicated for right of way.
[40:17] And that's because the adjoining
property owner, Pacific star
[40:22] estates, which is a
master development plan,
[40:24] they're going to begin work
on a multi-phase residential
[40:27] development, and
they will be required
[40:30] to basically improve Northwest
way along the frontage
[40:33] of their property.
[40:34] So we need that full
right of way dedication
[40:37] for that to materialize.
[40:39] So any questions.
[40:42] No it looks like a
pretty small annexation.
[40:46] Any questions.
[40:48] Is there a motion.
[40:50] I moved to adopt
resolution 2026 18.
[40:54] I'll second.
[40:55] Moved in second.
[40:55] Any further discussion.
[40:56] All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[40:59] Aye OK.
[41:01] Next, we have a purchase
authorization for three axle
[41:04] snowplow dump truck
for the public works
[41:07] department for $308,014.94.
[41:13] Ryan good evening.
[41:16] Mayor and council.
[41:17] Ryan Kirchner, public works
operations manager for the city.
[41:21] Tonight's action
item request or ask
[41:24] council to approve the
purchase of one 2027
[41:28] with 10 yard dump truck that
will have a dump body and snow
[41:33] fighting systems attached.
[41:36] This purchase will be made
via or through PAPI with.
[41:40] It is for 308,400 or $14.94.
[41:46] This purchase was competitively
bid via sourcewell contract.
[41:51] This purchase specifically is
for the transportation division,
[41:54] which will use it for
summer hauling, street
[41:57] preservation projects
and snow fighting
[41:59] during the winter months.
[42:01] It's also replacing
almost 30-year-old 5 yard
[42:05] dump truck that is
undersized and is
[42:08] also beyond its useful life.
[42:11] This purchase was first
presented to the Budget
[42:14] Committee and is in the
current fiscal year budget
[42:19] under the transportation,
capital, vehicles,
[42:21] and equipment sub fund.
[42:23] And before we move
to motion, I'd be
[42:25] happy to answer any questions.
[42:27] Is it 308 within the
budgetary framework.
[42:30] Yes OK.
[42:33] Is there a motion.
[42:34] 
[42:38] I moved to authorize the city
manager to purchase one 2027
[42:42] with T4 83 axle dump truck
chassis with snow removal
[42:46] equipment from with
utilizing sourcewell
[42:49] contract number 032824.
[42:53] KTTC in the amount not
to exceed $308,014.94.
[43:00] A second.
[43:01] Any further discussion.
[43:03] All those in favor,
signify by saying Aye.
[43:06] Aye Thank you.
[43:09] Up next, we'll have
comments from Citizens.
[43:12] Does anyone have a
comment at this time.
[43:16] Yeah come on up, sir.
[43:17] 
[43:22] If you just state your name
and address, that'd be great.
[43:25] Oh, Richard frost.
[43:27] OK, but Richard, you
can use the table.
[43:29] That's fine.
[43:30] Just make sure
you hit the button
[43:32] to make the microphone go on.
[43:34] OK yeah.
[43:43] I'm a sort of a victim of
the verra mobility place.
[43:50] I talked to you
about two weeks ago
[43:53] and gave you some literature,
and I didn't get any response.
[44:00] I wish I could have and
that's not everything.
[44:04] So we all know that system
is separate from everything,
[44:08] but it's not.
[44:10] So it came along and I
don't know who got it.
[44:16] Most probably the police.
[44:17] The police officers or.
[44:22] This area we're talking
about the traffic cameras
[44:25] was that we're talking
about the traffic cameras.
[44:27] And that went through.
[44:29] I got myself a
good six in maple.
[44:31] So yeah.
[44:31] But anyway, that did go through
a fairly rigorous review
[44:35] process, but go ahead.
[44:37] Oh, I don't think that Vera
mobility was a very good choice
[44:44] at all since it's going
through a class action lawsuit,
[44:48] and those could go on
for a couple of years.
[44:50] You just don't know what's going
to happen with one of those.
[44:53] And it's just and
when I came and when
[44:55] I've come into this
building, I decided
[44:57] I was going to go
to a judge or and so
[45:02] that made me give back my
pictures that they had taken.
[45:09] And I thought, oh, OK.
[45:11] And so when I about a
week before I was going
[45:14] to do the final thing here.
[45:16] Excuse me.
[45:18] I went to the police
office and I said, well,
[45:22] can I get my pictures back
so I can put up more of not
[45:27] a defense but just a show.
[45:29] And so they said, yeah.
[45:31] And they got a
young lady in there
[45:32] to get a computer outside
the police department
[45:35] or in the police
department in the lobby
[45:38] there for people to use.
[45:39] And I said, I'm 75 years
old and I understand
[45:42] you are to remind everybody you
pointed that out when you were
[45:46] there that we couldn't
get my pictures back,
[45:52] and that's a failure.
[45:55] And so when I came
here for the judge,
[45:59] I said, well, I've
been pondering
[46:00] over even getting a jury.
[46:02] And I said, well, that
would be kicking my own self
[46:04] in I decided not to do that.
[46:07] But so anyway, he dismissed
it, the whole thing because I
[46:11] just said, this is ridiculous.
[46:13] Because I don't think I was
guilty of that behavior.
[46:16] And I don't think and I don't
maybe the police can tell
[46:19] me where did my pictures go.
[46:23] They never showed up.
[46:26] So obviously I'm saying I'm
not giving a very good thing
[46:31] here because it's not my thing.
[46:34] But you guys need
to clean it up.
[46:37] And I would start
with getting rid.
[46:39] I don't care if air
mobility is not a good.
[46:42] I've got all kinds of stuff.
[46:44] Just for fun.
[46:45] I read all your information.
[46:46] What's that.
[46:47] I read all your information.
[46:48] Well, it wasn't all
the information.
[46:49] There's tons of
information on it.
[46:51] I said I read your
information that you gave me.
[46:53] What's that.
[46:54] I read the information
you gave me.
[46:56] Well, that's.
[46:56] Well, I didn't.
[46:57] I didn't think you.
[46:58] I didn't want to
burden you with that.
[46:59] But you didn't.
[47:01] And I'm not trying
to get on you.
[47:03] You're a nice guy.
[47:05] But I don't.
[47:05] I think it's not
going to go over
[47:08] very well if we don't sweeten.
[47:10] I don't get the
system going properly.
[47:13] And that's when it
could have been set.
[47:16] And a good time or a bad
time for when it was set.
[47:21] Was may right when
their mobility
[47:23] crashed on the NASDAQ a lot.
[47:26] I don't know if you
follow that, but yeah,
[47:28] that was a big crash on the.
[47:30] So to sum up, Richard,
because your time ran out.
[47:33] Let me just ask.
[47:35] You're asking us to review
the situation with the police
[47:37] department is what I'm
getting from your testimony
[47:40] that I found it
kind of confusing.
[47:43] I kind of found it
confusing in the court
[47:45] building because they said when
I went to get my pictures up
[47:50] here the first time, they
had two people come back
[47:53] and say, well, you need
to know that, you'll they
[47:58] didn't really sit that
we have these pictures.
[48:02] And I go, well, yeah,
I brought them back.
[48:04] Yeah but it was
like this big deal.
[48:07] And I have a hunch most people
just pay their fine and leave,
[48:12] and I just don't think that.
[48:15] Couldn't you get another vendor.
[48:17] I mean, you get a meeting.
[48:20] And the judge said he could.
[48:22] It's not that
difficult. All right.
[48:24] Well, we'll review
that with the police
[48:26] department and the city staff.
[48:28] What's that.
[48:29] We'll review.
[48:30] I think we're going
we actually talked
[48:31] about having review at some
point of how this is working.
[48:34] So we won't be working too good.
[48:36] All right.
[48:37] Well, I appreciate your opinion.
[48:39] We'll find out from
everyone else, too.
[48:40] OK I just wanted to.
[48:44] Because I seem to
be the only one.
[48:45] I seem to be the only
one that did a jury.
[48:47] One almost.
[48:48] And walking in the door.
[48:50] And it's like, no, this.
[48:51] And this is going around
the whole country.
[48:53] All right with
different vendors.
[48:55] And this isn't as
bad as a lot of them.
[48:59] All right.
[49:00] Thank you very much
for your testimony.
[49:02] Thank you.
[49:03] OK anybody else with
a public comment.
[49:08] Seeing none, we'll go to Keith.
[49:11] OK I have a couple of things.
[49:13] First of all, the wild ride
car show occurred last weekend.
[49:17] And at least from PD, the
Police Department's perspective.
[49:21] And Sergeant gortney
was down there.
[49:22] It went really well.
[49:23] They had good communication
with Shane, who you met,
[49:25] who did the presentation
a month or so ago.
[49:28] So the new way they're running
the show and the coordination
[49:31] with police and
making sure people
[49:32] don't do unsafe things
worked out, so I
[49:35] just wanted to pass that on.
[49:37] And the only other thing
we also back in July 28,
[49:42] there was the annexation related
to the Segoviano property.
[49:47] And that kind of went
through without protest.
[49:50] So that's done as well.
[49:51] That's what I've got.
[49:53] All right, Jay,
we'll start with you.
[49:54] 
[49:57] Yeah I'd like to just bring up
a name of a guy who passed away
[50:04] a week after the fair, and
Randy Marvin is who it was,
[50:09] and he died.
[50:12] Died at his house.
[50:14] But I'd been with him
just a few days earlier.
[50:17] He gave me a ride out
to my car at the fair.
[50:21] He volunteered for everything.
[50:23] Our flags that we
see every holiday.
[50:27] He was part of that program and
just his veteran and a real.
[50:37] Real giving person always wanted
to be part of the help people.
[50:44] So I just.
[50:45] I'm going to miss him a lot.
[50:47] I just wanted to bring it up.
[50:49] Thank you.
[50:50] OK Clifford.
[50:52] Yes, I guess I pass.
[50:55] Yes I just want to say
that I think the world
[51:00] is a little less bright today
with the loss of Dolly Parton.
[51:03] And my thoughts and prayers
go out to her family.
[51:06] And I've got some albums that
I'll be rolling around tonight.
[51:10] So let me say
something about water.
[51:18] If we don't do this, our rates
will skyrocket in the future
[51:24] because water will not.
[51:28] The more people we get with
the static amount of water,
[51:32] is a supply and
demand issue there,
[51:35] and prices will go up more
appreciably than if we take
[51:40] the steps to do water
conservation, which
[51:43] also puts us in a better state
to get additional water rights.
[51:49] We have one currently pending
before the water resources
[51:52] department to
transfer surface water
[51:55] rights of 500 million gallons
from the river to groundwater.
[52:00] But water is not
increasing in our basin.
[52:03] And so this is the right step
for a lot of right reasons.
[52:09] And no one likes any increase.
[52:12] But this is going to be the
softest increase compared
[52:14] to if we don't do something.
[52:16] So with that, I
think the council
[52:18] made a great decision on
moving forward with the water
[52:21] tiered rate system.
[52:22] I think on the long term,
it will be quite beneficial.
[52:26] And with that, we're adjourned.
[52:29]