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Good afternoon. Welcome

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back. Lori,

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could you

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please get us started

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Um, okay, good afternoon

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. This is

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RCEA board secretary Lori

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Taketa. With you

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the announcement. We're here in the

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Warfinger building, downstairs

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in the Bay Room meeting room

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, and, uh, just a

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reminder about your

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microphones. Um, for

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participating,

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please press the

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button at the base of

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the microphone, wait

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for the green light to turn on

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before speaking.

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if you can,

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meeting and turn on your

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comment period,

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the microphone here at Warfinger

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if you can so

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to unmute. And,

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uh, raise your hand

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early so we don't

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miss you. Public

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chair. And, um, for anyone in the

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audience who would like to

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energy resources,

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which is at

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the end of the

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agenda, that, um,

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October meeting.

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So if you would like to

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October, um,

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board meeting,

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do so, but that

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again, regarding

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, if, um, you have

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written public

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comments via

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email,

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we can accept them

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at publiccomment@redwoodenergy.org

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until the chair closes the

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participants, if your

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connection is interrupted,

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please let

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us know if you can

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by calling or

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texting

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707-382-7336, the number

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displayed on

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your screen, 707-382-7336

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, or by

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emailing

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publiccomment@redwoodenergy.org.

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Head?

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Thank you very much, Lori.

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Welcome

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back everyone. Well, welcome to everyone

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who can

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today online or in the

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room. Uh, Lori,

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can we have a

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vote,

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Yes, sir. Director

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Bauer from Eureka is

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Diaz?

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I am here.

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Director Jorgensen?

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Um, uh, Blue Lake

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Rancheria couldn't

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Scafani?

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Director Schaefer is already on

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her way, she is currently

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Director Mike Wilson.

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Um, and Director Mike

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Wilson, this is your second

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presence for

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good reason

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this year. Can

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you tell us if there

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anyone 18

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years of age or older in the room with you, and the

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nature of that

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relationship? There is

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not in the room, but there's no

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Okay, thank you. There is a quorum

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Thank you very much. Um, Reports

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member organizations. This is an opportunity

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for the council to share

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any

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updates with the council

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and anyone who may be

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listening. Um, does

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anyone have any

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updates? If we don't

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hear them, we will move on

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to oral and

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communication. Um, this

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time is given to people

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to address the council

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communications on matters

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communications have been completed, the board

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request requiring

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council action will be placed on the council's

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for a future date

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or referred to

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staff. Um, Lori,

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verbal or written

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communications?

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was submitted in

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writing, and

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the room, and no one

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hand them over to Beth.

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everyone. Um, I'll start with, uh

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, some good

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news. Um, so, uh, you'll

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see on the

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agenda this

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afternoon that there's, uh, an item

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energy disclosure that

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you have to approve.

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, in case this isn't

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taken down, I

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would like to emphasize

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that, uh, 2025 was

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our first year of

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achieving our 100%

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renewable, uh,

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or carbon-free

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resources in our

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portfolio. So, uh, that's a

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big achievement. We

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this for a long time. So we just

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wanted to point that out.

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renewable

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carbon-

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free. I will also

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share some great

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news about

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the prepayment we are

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aiming for and the savings

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achieve. We just

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closed a deal and we

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need to report

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savings that,

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you know, are well

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above what we

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budgeted. So, I think

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the savings were 8.5%,

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that was the minimum

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amount, which meant

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we wouldn't do

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the deal if we didn't

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reach that

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level of savings. We

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closed the deal just

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last, I don't know,

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maybe even

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today, but

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last week, and we're

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going to save

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about 11.6%. So

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that's

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$2.65 million in

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savings this year. We had

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2

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million planned, so it's, um,

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good for our

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budget that we're seeing

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these additional

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savings. Um, in the

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coming years, um,

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over the 10-year

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period, we expect,

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um, that this will

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vary, but we will

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have up to

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$3.2 million per

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year. So

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successful that it was an

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interesting process that

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involved, uh, getting up

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at 6:30 in the morning to

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track

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activity on the

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East Coast, uh

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, but I really want to

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give a shout-out to, uh,

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Richard and Lori B, who

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did an exceptional

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job on this. It was a

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huge boost, uh

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, for the staff -

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just to get all

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the materials together,

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to get familiar with the

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process. Uh, and we

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achieved a really

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good result.

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So I really want to

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thank them for their

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extra efforts. Uh

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, it was a lot, but

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it was worth it.

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I have a few more, uh,

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and a little, uh, I would

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say, cautious

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optimism about the

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PCIA clause. So, uh,

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we have a few, uh,

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directions that

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we've been following for PCIA. Uh, the

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first direction, uh,

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from the CPUC, was a point

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that, uh, was

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related to the

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market price

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benchmark methodology for

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adjusting

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electricity rates and

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the difference. And it was the change in

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methodology that essentially

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caused the

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big surge

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we saw

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this year. So CalCCA,

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our trade

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organization,

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challenged it, but

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no, but with great

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success. And their

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last was an

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appeal to the

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California Supreme Court. We

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weren't sure if

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this would be considered,

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but a few days ago

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we found out that it was indeed the case

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. And the

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Supreme Court

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sent it back to the

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appeals court,

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saying they

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should consider

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the issue. So it is the

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same court that

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initially decided not to

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hear this

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issue that will ultimately

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hear it.

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So again, there

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's some cautious

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optimism here, but it

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means you know

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we'll have the

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opportunity to make

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our case. So that's

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encouraging. And

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then another question

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related to the

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CPUC proceedings. You

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may remember

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that we recently

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submitted our

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comprehensive

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resource plan and made

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some decisions regarding

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it. Alongside this

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process, there is an

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annual

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transfer planning process

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that is associated with it.

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And this year's

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transfer planning process

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has an initial

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decision that gave us

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some cause for

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concern in that

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they

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essentially excluded

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offshore

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wind from

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this

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transfer planning process.

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They said, you know, they

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don't expect

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any

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offshore

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wind to be commissioned.

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Last year we

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saw how they

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delayed when they

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expected it to be

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put into operation. The

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biggest

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concern this

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year is that

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they completely

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removed this from the

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baseline. And

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we take this

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very seriously. And we

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will ask some

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experts

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to consult with the

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CPUC commissioners on this

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matter. We strongly

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believe that it is

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important to support

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energy transmission planning. These delays

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regarding offshore

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wind

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farms are

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unlikely to

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last forever. Additionally,

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the state of California is currently suing the

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federal

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government over some decisions

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they have made

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regarding offshore

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wind

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farms. So it

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seems a little

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illogical that

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we would then exclude this from

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our energy

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transfer planning process

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. So we are watching this closely

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. And as I said, we're going to be

426
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hosting some

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expert days with

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the commissioners, and we also

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want to highlight

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some of the co-

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benefits that

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improving

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power transmission can bring to

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our region in

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terms of

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reliability,

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potentially, you know,

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using a

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generating station less

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or taking

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it out of service entirely. These are

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things we can't

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begin to study or

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analyze unless we

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see improvements in

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energy transfer.

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So, we'll be

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working at full

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capacity and just

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wanted to let

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you know that we're

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monitoring this very closely

453
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. And that's what I think is

454
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mostly all

455
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I can say

456
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about the update. One other thing

457
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I want to

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say on the

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agenda is the

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virtual, uh,

461
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pre-

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power plant presentation, which

463
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was our last

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item for

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tonight.

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Hmm, we need to

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bring this up to the

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October meeting, uh,

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just for some

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unforeseen

471
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challenges on our

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part. We are not ready to

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make this

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presentation

475
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tonight. So, uh, for

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everyone who's, you know,

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listening to this, I just

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wanted to make sure that was

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clear. And I'm

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happy to answer

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any questions.

482
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from the board of directors

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for Beth? Uh, to me

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it sounds

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extremely, uh,

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rich. And, uh,

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excitingly and successfully.

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So, thank you very much

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for the report. Uh,

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keep up the great

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work. Are there any

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public comments

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on Beth's report?

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Hands raised.

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Okay, moving on to the

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consent calendar. All

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issues listed in the

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approval calendar section

499
00:10:00,805 --> 00:10:01,669
are considered

500
00:10:01,669 --> 00:10:02,318
planned by the council and

501
00:10:02,318 --> 00:10:03,290
are adopted as a single

502
00:10:03,290 --> 00:10:05,174
proposal.

503
00:10:06,098 --> 00:10:07,232
There is no separate discussion of any of these points. If

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00:10:07,232 --> 00:10:08,352
discussion is required

505
00:10:08,352 --> 00:10:08,927
, this item

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is removed from the

507
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approval calendar

508
00:10:10,765 --> 00:10:11,684
and considered

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separately. After

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the reading of

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this calendar

512
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of approvals is complete, council members

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or members of

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the public may

515
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request the removal of an

516
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item for separate

517
00:10:19,043 --> 00:10:20,254
discussion. The first

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item on the

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approval calendar is 5.1,

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approval of

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the minutes of the

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council meeting of August 27, 2026

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. And also 5.2,

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adoption of the

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payment report for July

526
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2026 and financial

527
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reports for this

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fiscal year by

529
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July 2026. Are there

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any items that the

531
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board, staff or

532
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the public would like to

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suggest be

534
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removed? Without hearing

535
00:10:47,706 --> 00:10:48,814
any requests, is there

536
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a motion for

537
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a vote on this

538
00:10:50,761 --> 00:10:51,917
issue?

539
00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:53,474
So it is proposed.

540
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Secondly,

541
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thank you. Lori, could

542
00:11:00,423 --> 00:11:01,411
you please hold a

543
00:11:01,411 --> 00:11:02,482
roll call vote

544
00:11:02,482 --> 00:11:03,186
?

545
00:11:03,186 --> 00:11:06,422
Yes, sir. Uh,

546
00:11:06,422 --> 00:11:07,519
Director Bauer

547
00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,108
is away. Director

548
00:11:09,108 --> 00:11:09,748
Diaz?

549
00:11:09,748 --> 00:11:10,583
Yes.

550
00:11:10,583 --> 00:11:23,033
Uh, head Garachi?

551
00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:24,870
Okay, I apologize. Uh

552
00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:25,610
, before we

553
00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:26,480
continue, do

554
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,253
we need to

555
00:11:27,253 --> 00:11:28,542
repeat the sentence

556
00:11:28,542 --> 00:11:29,422
after this?

557
00:11:29,422 --> 00:11:30,231
No, you can

558
00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:31,478
wait until you submit your

559
00:11:31,478 --> 00:11:33,124
proposal. Good.

560
00:11:33,124 --> 00:11:36,051
Are there any

561
00:11:36,051 --> 00:11:37,308
public comments on

562
00:11:37,308 --> 00:11:39,414
this issue?

563
00:11:39,414 --> 00:11:40,439
Hands are not raised

564
00:11:40,439 --> 00:11:40,999
online.

565
00:11:40,999 --> 00:11:42,732
Okay, thank you, Lori.

566
00:11:42,732 --> 00:11:43,684
Can we hold a

567
00:11:43,684 --> 00:11:44,743
roll call vote

568
00:11:44,743 --> 00:11:44,871
? Uh

569
00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:46,470
, yes. Um, so we

570
00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:47,903
went through, uh,

571
00:11:47,903 --> 00:11:49,168
Bauer, Diaz, and the

572
00:11:49,168 --> 00:11:51,814
head of Garachi. How do you

573
00:11:51,814 --> 00:11:52,714
vote?

574
00:11:52,714 --> 00:11:53,116
Yes.

575
00:11:53,116 --> 00:11:54,711
Good. Uh, Principal

576
00:11:54,711 --> 00:11:55,769
Jorgensen?

577
00:11:55,769 --> 00:11:56,695
Yes.

578
00:11:56,695 --> 00:11:58,364
Director Ramos, uh,

579
00:11:58,364 --> 00:12:00,194
Blue Lake is missing. Uh

580
00:12:00,194 --> 00:12:02,088
, Director Skafani.

581
00:12:02,088 --> 00:12:03,876
Yes. Uh,

582
00:12:03,876 --> 00:12:06,702
deputy chairman.

583
00:12:06,702 --> 00:12:07,681
Yes, yes.

584
00:12:07,681 --> 00:12:09,668
Er, Principal Glenn.

585
00:12:09,668 --> 00:12:10,144
Yes.

586
00:12:10,144 --> 00:12:11,231
Director Mike

587
00:12:11,231 --> 00:12:12,268
Wilson.

588
00:12:12,268 --> 00:12:12,954
Yes.

589
00:12:12,954 --> 00:12:14,043
Uh, the unanimous

590
00:12:14,043 --> 00:12:16,671
decision was made.

591
00:12:16,671 --> 00:12:19,233
Thank you, and we have the

592
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CCE business consent calendar. Uh, again

593
00:12:20,744 --> 00:12:21,756
, all the questions in

594
00:12:21,756 --> 00:12:23,463
this section of the

595
00:12:23,492 --> 00:12:25,054
public energy business consent calendar

596
00:12:25,083 --> 00:12:55,797
relate to

597
00:12:55,797 --> 00:13:02,178
2020-10.

598
00:13:02,178 --> 00:13:03,969
I can't hear anything. This is

599
00:13:03,969 --> 00:13:05,191
normal. So, we

600
00:13:05,191 --> 00:13:06,071
need to start

601
00:13:06,071 --> 00:13:07,491
over, right? Good.

602
00:13:07,491 --> 00:13:09,189
Sorry about that.

603
00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:10,616
I'm confused about

604
00:13:10,616 --> 00:13:13,036
this today. Good.

605
00:13:13,068 --> 00:13:14,291
CCE Business Consent Calendar, all matters

606
00:13:14,291 --> 00:13:16,287
in the Community Energy Business Consent Calendar section

607
00:13:17,735 --> 00:13:19,023
are considered routine by the

608
00:13:19,023 --> 00:13:20,117
board members of

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00:13:20,117 --> 00:13:21,082
that

610
00:13:21,082 --> 00:13:21,919
CCE participating jurisdiction and

611
00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:23,013
are decided by a single

612
00:13:23,013 --> 00:13:24,122
resolution. There is no separate

613
00:13:24,122 --> 00:13:25,153
discussion of any

614
00:13:25,153 --> 00:13:25,967
of these points

615
00:13:25,967 --> 00:13:26,939
. If

616
00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:28,015
discussion is required

617
00:13:28,015 --> 00:13:28,567
, this item

618
00:13:28,567 --> 00:13:30,195
is removed from the

619
00:13:30,223 --> 00:13:30,665
consent calendar section and

620
00:13:30,665 --> 00:13:31,741
considered separately

621
00:13:31,741 --> 00:13:32,726
. After

622
00:13:32,726 --> 00:13:33,636
the reading of the

623
00:13:33,636 --> 00:13:34,627
CCE Business Consent Calendar is complete,

624
00:13:34,627 --> 00:13:35,618
any board member

625
00:13:35,618 --> 00:13:36,422
or member of the

626
00:13:36,422 --> 00:13:37,386
public may

627
00:13:37,386 --> 00:13:38,350
request the removal of an

628
00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:39,341
item for separate

629
00:13:39,341 --> 00:13:41,404
discussion. On the list

630
00:13:41,404 --> 00:13:42,798
we have 7.1, to adopt

631
00:13:42,798 --> 00:13:44,191
resolution 2026-10, which

632
00:13:44,191 --> 00:13:47,217
approves and certifies the

633
00:13:47,257 --> 00:13:49,526
RCA

634
00:13:49,566 --> 00:13:51,039
Power Source Disclosure Report for

635
00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:52,305
2025. Uh, since

636
00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:53,396
this is the only item, is there

637
00:13:53,396 --> 00:13:54,228
any

638
00:13:54,228 --> 00:13:54,802
board member,

639
00:13:54,802 --> 00:13:55,836
staff member, or

640
00:13:55,836 --> 00:13:56,610
member of

641
00:13:56,610 --> 00:13:57,615
the public who would

642
00:13:57,615 --> 00:13:58,562
like to remove

643
00:13:58,562 --> 00:13:59,509
it for separate

644
00:13:59,509 --> 00:14:00,255
discussion from the

645
00:14:00,255 --> 00:14:04,967
consent calendar?

646
00:14:04,967 --> 00:14:06,277
No hands were raised online

647
00:14:06,277 --> 00:14:08,199
.

648
00:14:08,199 --> 00:14:09,257
And regarding the public

649
00:14:09,257 --> 00:14:10,412
discussion, uh, does

650
00:14:10,412 --> 00:14:11,053
anyone want

651
00:14:11,053 --> 00:14:12,208
to comment on this

652
00:14:12,208 --> 00:14:12,956
point? There

653
00:14:12,956 --> 00:14:13,708
were no

654
00:14:13,708 --> 00:14:14,738
comments online, and none were

655
00:14:14,738 --> 00:14:15,435
received in

656
00:14:15,435 --> 00:14:16,371
writing.

657
00:14:16,371 --> 00:14:18,413
Thank you. Do we have a

658
00:14:18,447 --> 00:14:20,666
vote proposal?

659
00:14:20,666 --> 00:14:23,041
So it is proposed.

660
00:14:23,041 --> 00:14:25,283
Secondly.

661
00:14:25,283 --> 00:14:26,808
Thank you, Lori.

662
00:14:26,808 --> 00:14:27,736
Could you, uh,

663
00:14:27,736 --> 00:14:28,905
hold a roll call

664
00:14:28,905 --> 00:14:30,039
vote,

665
00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:30,518
please? Uh

666
00:14:30,518 --> 00:14:32,514
, yes, head. So, uh

667
00:14:32,514 --> 00:14:34,728
, Bauer is absent.

668
00:14:34,728 --> 00:14:36,067
Director Diaz.

669
00:14:36,067 --> 00:14:38,549
Yes. Uh, the

670
00:14:38,549 --> 00:14:39,590
Yurok tribe doesn't

671
00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:40,969
vote. Director

672
00:14:40,969 --> 00:14:42,128
Jorgenson.

673
00:14:42,128 --> 00:14:44,004
Yes.

674
00:14:44,004 --> 00:14:45,206
Um, uh, Principal

675
00:14:45,206 --> 00:14:48,073
Stefano.

676
00:14:48,073 --> 00:14:48,676
Yes.

677
00:14:48,676 --> 00:14:50,132
BLR Blue Lake Rancheria

678
00:14:50,132 --> 00:14:51,878
is missing. Um,

679
00:14:51,878 --> 00:14:55,048
Principal Shafer.

680
00:14:55,048 --> 00:14:57,560
Yes.

681
00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,208
Director Tuttle.

682
00:14:59,208 --> 00:14:59,721
Yes.

683
00:14:59,721 --> 00:15:00,772
Director Frank

684
00:15:00,772 --> 00:15:01,761
Wilson. Yes.

685
00:15:01,761 --> 00:15:03,929
Director Mike Wilson.

686
00:15:03,929 --> 00:15:04,553
Yes.

687
00:15:04,553 --> 00:15:05,677
The decision was made

688
00:15:05,677 --> 00:15:06,857
unanimously.

689
00:15:06,857 --> 00:15:09,453
Thank you very much. This

690
00:15:09,485 --> 00:15:10,562
concludes our work as CCE and we will

691
00:15:10,562 --> 00:15:11,576
resume the work of

692
00:15:11,576 --> 00:15:12,210
our

693
00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:13,002
CA board of directors,

694
00:15:13,002 --> 00:15:14,174
starting with old

695
00:15:14,174 --> 00:15:15,211
business. And the first

696
00:15:15,211 --> 00:15:16,938
question will be the

697
00:15:16,972 --> 00:15:18,089
Humblet Sawmill

698
00:15:18,089 --> 00:15:19,444
Company's annual report on the use of

699
00:15:19,444 --> 00:15:20,426
alternative

700
00:15:20,426 --> 00:15:21,785
biomass. This is for

701
00:15:21,785 --> 00:15:23,717
informational purposes only. And we'll

702
00:15:23,717 --> 00:15:24,827
hear from Richard

703
00:15:24,827 --> 00:15:26,159
Engel, RCEA's Director of

704
00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:27,084
Energy

705
00:15:27,084 --> 00:15:31,943
Resources.

706
00:15:31,943 --> 00:15:33,286
Good day everyone.

707
00:15:33,286 --> 00:15:33,899
Thank you for

708
00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:34,974
the introduction,

709
00:15:34,974 --> 00:15:37,244
Chairman. Um, excuse me,

710
00:15:37,244 --> 00:15:38,298
please. I'm catching a

711
00:15:38,298 --> 00:15:39,631
cold, so my

712
00:15:39,631 --> 00:15:40,863
voice

713
00:15:40,863 --> 00:15:42,096
won't be very good today, but I

714
00:15:42,096 --> 00:15:43,095
... uh, I'll do my

715
00:15:43,095 --> 00:15:46,123
best for it. Um,

716
00:15:46,123 --> 00:15:47,835
uh, so uh, it's, uh, kind of like an

717
00:15:47,835 --> 00:15:49,152
annual

718
00:15:49,152 --> 00:15:51,635
practice. Um, I'll start

719
00:15:51,635 --> 00:15:52,348
with a simple

720
00:15:52,348 --> 00:15:53,595
reminder of, uh,

721
00:15:53,595 --> 00:15:54,736
some of the applicable

722
00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:56,982
provisions of our

723
00:15:57,446 --> 00:15:58,586
power purchase agreement with

724
00:15:58,586 --> 00:15:59,870
Humboldt Sawmill

725
00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:01,153
Company and the memorandum

726
00:16:01,153 --> 00:16:02,544
of understanding

727
00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:03,970
that we subsequently entered into

728
00:16:03,970 --> 00:16:06,099
with them. Um, I'll briefly

729
00:16:06,099 --> 00:16:07,291
describe the materials that

730
00:16:07,291 --> 00:16:08,358
Humboldt Sawmill

731
00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:09,362
Company provided this

732
00:16:09,362 --> 00:16:10,146
year as part of

733
00:16:10,146 --> 00:16:11,087
the Memorandum of

734
00:16:11,087 --> 00:16:12,092
Understanding,

735
00:16:12,092 --> 00:16:13,001
talk about their

736
00:16:13,001 --> 00:16:14,194
review by the Biomass Technical

737
00:16:14,194 --> 00:16:15,166
Advisory

738
00:16:15,166 --> 00:16:16,296
Group and the

739
00:16:16,296 --> 00:16:17,018
Public

740
00:16:17,018 --> 00:16:17,990
Advisory

741
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:19,057
Committee, and then

742
00:16:19,057 --> 00:16:19,967
share with you

743
00:16:19,967 --> 00:16:20,438
some

744
00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:21,599
visualizations that

745
00:16:21,599 --> 00:16:22,697
staff have put together

746
00:16:22,697 --> 00:16:23,952
based on the data provided by

747
00:16:23,952 --> 00:16:25,081
Humboldt Sawmill

748
00:16:25,081 --> 00:16:28,188
Company. Our

749
00:16:28,218 --> 00:16:29,193
power purchase agreement with

750
00:16:29,193 --> 00:16:30,813
them dates back to 2017

751
00:16:30,813 --> 00:16:32,015
, when we first

752
00:16:32,015 --> 00:16:32,877
launched our

753
00:16:32,877 --> 00:16:33,925
CCA program, it was

754
00:16:33,925 --> 00:16:34,542
our first

755
00:16:34,542 --> 00:16:36,083
long-term

756
00:16:36,761 --> 00:16:43,278
power supply contract. And, um,

757
00:16:43,278 --> 00:16:43,973
due to some

758
00:16:43,973 --> 00:16:45,205
community concerns

759
00:16:45,205 --> 00:16:46,437
that were raised

760
00:16:46,437 --> 00:16:47,669
at the beginning of the

761
00:16:47,669 --> 00:16:48,680
contract with them,

762
00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,849
specifically about

763
00:16:49,849 --> 00:16:50,955
air quality and emissions

764
00:16:50,955 --> 00:16:53,198
from the plant, a default clause was added to the power purchase agreement that

765
00:16:58,380 --> 00:16:59,517
stated that if

766
00:16:59,517 --> 00:17:00,370
the project was not

767
00:17:00,370 --> 00:17:01,350
operated

768
00:17:01,350 --> 00:17:02,456
in accordance with all

769
00:17:02,456 --> 00:17:03,372
applicable laws as

770
00:17:03,372 --> 00:17:04,573
determined by the government

771
00:17:04,573 --> 00:17:10,924
agency, that could be

772
00:17:10,924 --> 00:17:11,764
grounds for

773
00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:13,024
termination of the contract

774
00:17:13,024 --> 00:17:14,498
. Hmm, over the

775
00:17:14,498 --> 00:17:15,570
years we have

776
00:17:15,570 --> 00:17:17,325
had the opportunity to

777
00:17:17,357 --> 00:17:18,462
consult with the

778
00:17:18,462 --> 00:17:19,729
air district on

779
00:17:19,729 --> 00:17:20,606
this issue many times,

780
00:17:20,606 --> 00:17:21,776
as we know

781
00:17:21,776 --> 00:17:22,686
they have sent

782
00:17:22,686 --> 00:17:23,725
notices of

783
00:17:23,725 --> 00:17:24,895
violation to

784
00:17:24,895 --> 00:17:25,991
Humboldt Sawmill. The

785
00:17:25,991 --> 00:17:27,142
Air District is

786
00:17:27,142 --> 00:17:27,974
always simply

787
00:17:27,974 --> 00:17:28,998
notified of the

788
00:17:28,998 --> 00:17:30,278
corrective actions

789
00:17:30,278 --> 00:17:31,494
Humboldt Sawmill Company is taking

790
00:17:31,494 --> 00:17:32,486
to address these

791
00:17:32,486 --> 00:17:33,321
violations. Well,

792
00:17:33,321 --> 00:17:34,600
based on the findings

793
00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,751
that we received from the

794
00:17:35,751 --> 00:17:36,934
air district

795
00:17:36,934 --> 00:17:37,926
and a review by our

796
00:17:37,926 --> 00:17:39,077
own general

797
00:17:39,077 --> 00:17:40,132
counsel, we have

798
00:17:40,132 --> 00:17:41,091
determined, and our

799
00:17:41,091 --> 00:17:41,634
general

800
00:17:41,634 --> 00:17:42,434
counsel

801
00:17:42,434 --> 00:17:43,681
recently confirmed

802
00:17:43,681 --> 00:17:44,736
, that these intermittent

803
00:17:44,736 --> 00:17:45,759
violations that we have

804
00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:46,974
seen do not rise to

805
00:17:46,974 --> 00:17:48,061
the level of a

806
00:17:48,061 --> 00:17:49,635
default. Hmm, so

807
00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:50,588
this whole process of

808
00:17:50,588 --> 00:17:51,212
entering into

809
00:17:51,212 --> 00:17:52,198
a Memorandum of

810
00:17:52,198 --> 00:17:53,381
Understanding and the

811
00:17:53,381 --> 00:17:54,235
review that we

812
00:17:54,235 --> 00:17:55,319
do every year

813
00:17:55,319 --> 00:17:56,239
is not really,

814
00:17:56,239 --> 00:17:57,389
you know, an opportunity

815
00:17:57,389 --> 00:17:58,604
to terminate the contract

816
00:17:58,604 --> 00:17:59,886
because there is

817
00:17:59,886 --> 00:18:01,167
simply no basis for termination

818
00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:04,893
. Um, so, uh, at

819
00:18:04,893 --> 00:18:05,887
the time we

820
00:18:05,887 --> 00:18:07,121
got

821
00:18:07,121 --> 00:18:08,321
board approval to

822
00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:09,178
convert

823
00:18:09,178 --> 00:18:10,378
the short-term

824
00:18:10,378 --> 00:18:11,715
contract to a 10-year contract

825
00:18:11,715 --> 00:18:12,366
, and that was to

826
00:18:12,366 --> 00:18:13,669
meet the

827
00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:15,006
state's requirement that a

828
00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:17,131
certain portion of our

829
00:18:17,165 --> 00:18:18,022
renewable

830
00:18:18,022 --> 00:18:19,291
energy contract be

831
00:18:19,291 --> 00:18:20,525
for 10 years

832
00:18:20,525 --> 00:18:21,485
or longer, the board

833
00:18:21,485 --> 00:18:22,821
asked

834
00:18:22,821 --> 00:18:23,678
, uh, as a condition of being

835
00:18:23,678 --> 00:18:24,913
willing to enter into a

836
00:18:24,913 --> 00:18:25,907
long-term

837
00:18:25,907 --> 00:18:27,106
contract, to get

838
00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:28,272
more information

839
00:18:28,272 --> 00:18:30,706
about the plant's operations and the

840
00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:31,631
extent to which HSC is looking at

841
00:18:31,631 --> 00:18:32,968
possible alternatives

842
00:18:32,968 --> 00:18:34,065
that might be

843
00:18:34,065 --> 00:18:35,402
less polluting, uh

844
00:18:35,402 --> 00:18:36,499
, to deal with

845
00:18:36,499 --> 00:18:39,372
biomass waste.

846
00:18:39,372 --> 00:18:40,297
Excuse me, I'll

847
00:18:40,297 --> 00:18:41,387
stop and drink

848
00:18:41,387 --> 00:18:42,477
water every few

849
00:18:42,477 --> 00:18:47,713
minutes. Therefore,

850
00:18:47,713 --> 00:18:48,599
the Memorandum of

851
00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:49,579
Understanding itself

852
00:18:49,579 --> 00:18:50,750
clearly indicates that it in

853
00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:51,667
no way

854
00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:52,837
cancels the terms of the electricity

855
00:18:52,837 --> 00:18:53,944
purchase and sale agreement

856
00:18:53,944 --> 00:19:04,972
. But

857
00:19:04,972 --> 00:19:05,811
its purpose is to

858
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,271
help shape the

859
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:10,143
path for these

860
00:19:10,143 --> 00:19:11,906
alternative uses of

861
00:19:11,946 --> 00:19:13,474
biomass

862
00:19:13,474 --> 00:19:15,903
, uh, once the

863
00:19:15,942 --> 00:19:17,157
PPA expires, which is currently

864
00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:18,685
set for 2031

865
00:19:18,685 --> 00:19:24,745
. So what did we get

866
00:19:24,745 --> 00:19:27,872
from HSC this year? We

867
00:19:27,872 --> 00:19:29,176
provided them with a template, as we do

868
00:19:29,176 --> 00:19:30,480
every year, to obtain the

869
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,752
necessary data on

870
00:19:31,752 --> 00:19:33,023
fuel use,

871
00:19:33,023 --> 00:19:35,044
sources of that fuel,

872
00:19:35,076 --> 00:19:36,185
electricity production, and

873
00:19:36,185 --> 00:19:39,507
emissions. They

874
00:19:39,507 --> 00:19:40,433
fill out this

875
00:19:40,433 --> 00:19:41,690
template and provide us with the

876
00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:46,925
data. They also, as

877
00:19:46,925 --> 00:19:47,970
usual, for the last

878
00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:49,205
few years, provide

879
00:19:49,205 --> 00:19:50,441
us with a large amount of

880
00:19:50,441 --> 00:19:51,613
reporting materials

881
00:19:51,613 --> 00:19:53,766
that they provide to the

882
00:19:53,798 --> 00:19:54,716
Air Quality District,

883
00:19:54,716 --> 00:19:55,888
noting that if

884
00:19:55,888 --> 00:19:56,775
we want, we

885
00:19:56,775 --> 00:19:57,884
can get these

886
00:19:57,884 --> 00:19:58,834
materials through

887
00:19:58,834 --> 00:20:00,924
a request to the

888
00:20:00,956 --> 00:20:01,969
Air Quality District, so they

889
00:20:01,969 --> 00:20:02,920
save us the

890
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,250
trouble of

891
00:20:04,282 --> 00:20:05,137
providing these

892
00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:10,843
materials directly to us. And then

893
00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:12,630
they have a throughput report

894
00:20:12,658 --> 00:20:13,775
that shows how much

895
00:20:13,775 --> 00:20:14,752
steam is being produced,

896
00:20:14,752 --> 00:20:15,730
how much biomass and

897
00:20:15,730 --> 00:20:16,679
diesel fuel is

898
00:20:16,679 --> 00:20:17,712
being used,

899
00:20:17,712 --> 00:20:18,801
and the number of days

900
00:20:18,801 --> 00:20:19,667
each of the

901
00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:22,598
boilers has been running. A few more

902
00:20:22,598 --> 00:20:23,652
interesting things

903
00:20:23,652 --> 00:20:24,457
I'd like to

904
00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:25,449
talk about this

905
00:20:25,449 --> 00:20:26,562
year. First, this is the

906
00:20:26,562 --> 00:20:27,830
first year since

907
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:28,898
this cyclical

908
00:20:28,898 --> 00:20:29,999
process began in 2021

909
00:20:29,999 --> 00:20:31,334
that the

910
00:20:31,334 --> 00:20:32,602
Air Quality District has not

911
00:20:32,602 --> 00:20:34,438
issued any new

912
00:20:34,471 --> 00:20:35,845
violation notices. So we're

913
00:20:35,845 --> 00:20:38,569
happy to see that. Um, uh

914
00:20:38,569 --> 00:20:39,542
, we requested and

915
00:20:39,542 --> 00:20:41,048
received a

916
00:20:43,245 --> 00:20:45,734
health risk assessment report from the airspace department.

917
00:20:45,734 --> 00:20:47,169
Um, that was something that, uh,

918
00:20:47,169 --> 00:20:48,458
hadn't been done for a

919
00:20:48,458 --> 00:20:50,901
few decades.

920
00:20:50,901 --> 00:20:52,441
Um, and this is caused by, uh

921
00:20:52,441 --> 00:20:53,942
, data that is, you know,

922
00:20:53,942 --> 00:20:55,641
provided to the

923
00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:59,297
HSC airspace department. Um, so they,

924
00:20:59,297 --> 00:21:01,806
you know, these triggering events

925
00:21:01,841 --> 00:21:02,689
occurred and

926
00:21:02,689 --> 00:21:04,279
necessitated the

927
00:21:04,314 --> 00:21:05,445
preparation of this

928
00:21:05,445 --> 00:21:07,104
report. Um, for the report, uh

929
00:21:07,104 --> 00:21:08,025
, there's an external

930
00:21:08,025 --> 00:21:09,389
consultant, uh, who's

931
00:21:09,389 --> 00:21:10,038
doing

932
00:21:10,038 --> 00:21:11,095
modeling to

933
00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:12,255
quantify the

934
00:21:12,255 --> 00:21:13,620
impact of the plant's emissions

935
00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:14,985
that they might have

936
00:21:14,985 --> 00:21:16,076
on, uh, the population

937
00:21:16,076 --> 00:21:17,313
around the plant. So

938
00:21:17,313 --> 00:21:17,986
they actually

939
00:21:17,986 --> 00:21:19,021
create a spatial

940
00:21:19,021 --> 00:21:19,849
model and say, "

941
00:21:19,849 --> 00:21:20,393
Okay, here's the

942
00:21:20,393 --> 00:21:21,169
dispersion of these

943
00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:22,178
pollutants

944
00:21:22,178 --> 00:21:23,188
coming out of the stack

945
00:21:23,188 --> 00:21:24,160
." Because we have

946
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,141
data on how much

947
00:21:25,141 --> 00:21:26,200
pollutants are

948
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,260
coming out and we know,

949
00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:28,293
you know, the air movement in the

950
00:21:28,293 --> 00:21:29,247
pool around, we

951
00:21:29,247 --> 00:21:29,989
can, you know,

952
00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:30,890
predict where these

953
00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:31,950
pollutants are

954
00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:32,824
going to end up and who

955
00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:33,804
they might

956
00:21:33,804 --> 00:21:35,087
harm. Um, so, uh, the

957
00:21:35,087 --> 00:21:36,299
draft report that

958
00:21:36,299 --> 00:21:37,654
was published, and

959
00:21:37,654 --> 00:21:39,008
to which we had, uh, a

960
00:21:39,008 --> 00:21:40,363
summary, was

961
00:21:40,363 --> 00:21:41,682
included in the

962
00:21:41,682 --> 00:21:42,751
board of

963
00:21:42,751 --> 00:21:45,514
directors' package. Um, and

964
00:21:45,514 --> 00:21:46,655
this report

965
00:21:46,655 --> 00:21:47,760
found that, um, the

966
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,631
cancer risks, um, are below the

967
00:21:50,668 --> 00:21:51,846
notification or

968
00:21:51,846 --> 00:21:52,987
recovery thresholds that are

969
00:21:52,987 --> 00:21:54,450
required. Um, there is, um, a

970
00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:55,368
review period

971
00:21:55,368 --> 00:21:56,346
during which both the

972
00:21:56,346 --> 00:21:57,532
air district and the

973
00:21:57,532 --> 00:21:58,124
state

974
00:21:58,124 --> 00:21:59,962
Office of

975
00:22:00,791 --> 00:22:01,562
Environmental and

976
00:22:01,562 --> 00:22:02,421
Health Hazard Assessment can

977
00:22:02,421 --> 00:22:03,251
review and

978
00:22:03,251 --> 00:22:04,318
comment on this

979
00:22:04,318 --> 00:22:05,594
report. So it may be a

980
00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:06,661
few more months

981
00:22:06,661 --> 00:22:07,446
before the

982
00:22:07,446 --> 00:22:08,575
final

983
00:22:08,575 --> 00:22:09,705
version of this report is released,

984
00:22:09,705 --> 00:22:10,929
but, um, the draft report,

985
00:22:10,929 --> 00:22:11,713
um, actually

986
00:22:11,713 --> 00:22:12,655
looks pretty

987
00:22:12,655 --> 00:22:13,722
good from a

988
00:22:13,722 --> 00:22:15,215
health perspective. Um,

989
00:22:15,215 --> 00:22:16,605
another notable

990
00:22:16,605 --> 00:22:18,108
thing this year was that

991
00:22:18,108 --> 00:22:19,010
earlier

992
00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:20,175
last year we

993
00:22:20,175 --> 00:22:21,640
reported that EPIC and the

994
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,068
Humboldt

995
00:22:23,068 --> 00:22:24,233
Clean Energy Coalition

996
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:27,089
had filed a petition, um, with the

997
00:22:28,141 --> 00:22:29,456
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, um,

998
00:22:29,456 --> 00:22:30,921
objecting to, um

999
00:22:30,921 --> 00:22:31,748
, the

1000
00:22:31,748 --> 00:22:32,950
operating permit, um,

1001
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:34,115
that was issued to the

1002
00:22:34,115 --> 00:22:35,393
Humboldt Sawmill by the

1003
00:22:35,393 --> 00:22:36,574
county. Um, this

1004
00:22:36,574 --> 00:22:37,942
year the

1005
00:22:38,794 --> 00:22:39,645
Environmental Protection Agency, um,

1006
00:22:39,645 --> 00:22:42,483
rejected this petition.

1007
00:22:42,483 --> 00:22:43,641
Um, we made all of this

1008
00:22:43,641 --> 00:22:44,861
material available

1009
00:22:44,861 --> 00:22:46,050
to the public on

1010
00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:50,203
our website. Um, so here's the URL

1011
00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:52,577
. As I mentioned,

1012
00:22:52,577 --> 00:22:53,474
there is a

1013
00:22:53,474 --> 00:22:54,403
summary of the health

1014
00:22:54,403 --> 00:22:55,424
risk assessment in your package

1015
00:22:55,424 --> 00:22:56,669
. But, if you

1016
00:22:56,669 --> 00:22:57,793
want to see everything,

1017
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:58,976
you can

1018
00:22:58,976 --> 00:23:03,336
access it there.

1019
00:23:03,336 --> 00:23:04,481
So, back in June,

1020
00:23:04,481 --> 00:23:05,769
our staff

1021
00:23:05,769 --> 00:23:06,628
met with

1022
00:23:06,628 --> 00:23:07,665
representatives of the

1023
00:23:07,665 --> 00:23:08,882
Humboldt Sawmill

1024
00:23:08,882 --> 00:23:09,884
Company at their

1025
00:23:09,884 --> 00:23:10,671
facility to

1026
00:23:10,671 --> 00:23:12,103
review the

1027
00:23:12,103 --> 00:23:15,831
reporting materials. Typically,

1028
00:23:15,831 --> 00:23:17,090
after meeting with them

1029
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:17,768
, reviewing

1030
00:23:17,768 --> 00:23:18,640
the materials,

1031
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,545
discussing them, and getting their

1032
00:23:19,545 --> 00:23:20,610
feelings on the new

1033
00:23:20,610 --> 00:23:21,353
developments, we

1034
00:23:21,353 --> 00:23:22,451
convene a meeting of

1035
00:23:22,451 --> 00:23:23,420
our Biomass Technical

1036
00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:24,421
Advisory

1037
00:23:24,421 --> 00:23:25,616
Group to

1038
00:23:25,616 --> 00:23:26,875
review the materials

1039
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,933
. There was simply no

1040
00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:30,888
way to

1041
00:23:30,888 --> 00:23:33,519
get the group together this summer. We

1042
00:23:33,552 --> 00:23:34,795
tried several times to run

1043
00:23:34,795 --> 00:23:36,072
Doodle Polls and

1044
00:23:36,072 --> 00:23:36,955
find a time to

1045
00:23:36,955 --> 00:23:38,264
meet, but we never

1046
00:23:38,264 --> 00:23:39,312
found the time to get

1047
00:23:39,312 --> 00:23:40,359
more than a

1048
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,332
few members together. Then

1049
00:23:44,332 --> 00:23:45,458
we simply provided them with

1050
00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:46,208
the materials and

1051
00:23:46,208 --> 00:23:47,365
asked them to provide

1052
00:23:47,365 --> 00:23:49,817
written comments.

1053
00:23:49,817 --> 00:23:50,941
We received very few

1054
00:23:50,941 --> 00:23:52,167
responses. Nothing

1055
00:23:52,167 --> 00:23:53,295
worth

1056
00:23:53,295 --> 00:23:54,585
reporting.

1057
00:23:54,585 --> 00:23:56,083
HSC itself simply said: "No

1058
00:23:56,083 --> 00:23:59,374
comment." And, after the

1059
00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:00,527
response deadline, we heard

1060
00:24:00,527 --> 00:24:01,528
back from Jana

1061
00:24:01,528 --> 00:24:02,620
Valakovic, but she did

1062
00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:03,439
not have any

1063
00:24:03,439 --> 00:24:04,592
substantive comments

1064
00:24:04,592 --> 00:24:07,931
on the materials. So,

1065
00:24:07,931 --> 00:24:12,614
almost everything was there. Regarding

1066
00:24:12,649 --> 00:24:13,717
alternative

1067
00:24:13,717 --> 00:24:15,061
uses of biomass

1068
00:24:15,061 --> 00:24:16,198
, HSC reported that

1069
00:24:16,198 --> 00:24:17,301
they continue

1070
00:24:17,301 --> 00:24:18,610
to evaluate the potential

1071
00:24:18,610 --> 00:24:21,223
for plant development.

1072
00:24:21,223 --> 00:24:22,027
Specifically, they are

1073
00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:23,410
looking at

1074
00:24:23,442 --> 00:24:24,664
building a smaller-

1075
00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:25,854
scale

1076
00:24:25,854 --> 00:24:27,077
biomass plant at their

1077
00:24:27,077 --> 00:24:28,299
Ukiah facility that would be

1078
00:24:28,299 --> 00:24:29,296
small-

1079
00:24:29,296 --> 00:24:30,261
scale and could

1080
00:24:30,261 --> 00:24:31,130
participate in the

1081
00:24:31,130 --> 00:24:32,320
Biomass program that

1082
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,349
we previously

1083
00:24:33,349 --> 00:24:34,604
participated in until it was

1084
00:24:34,604 --> 00:24:37,395
discontinued. And then

1085
00:24:37,395 --> 00:24:38,613
they would use the

1086
00:24:38,613 --> 00:24:39,526
waste

1087
00:24:39,526 --> 00:24:40,713
heat from that facility

1088
00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:41,627
to produce

1089
00:24:41,627 --> 00:24:43,774
hydrogen from biomass. They are still

1090
00:24:43,774 --> 00:24:44,886
interested in

1091
00:24:44,886 --> 00:24:45,998
it, but say that

1092
00:24:45,998 --> 00:24:46,935
the economics

1093
00:24:46,935 --> 00:24:47,901
of the project are simply not

1094
00:24:47,901 --> 00:24:48,896
conducive to further

1095
00:24:48,896 --> 00:24:50,129
development at this time. So

1096
00:24:50,129 --> 00:24:50,828
his work is currently

1097
00:24:50,828 --> 00:24:53,613
suspended. We

1098
00:24:53,613 --> 00:24:54,324
approached the

1099
00:24:54,324 --> 00:24:55,008
public

1100
00:24:55,008 --> 00:24:55,910
advisory

1101
00:24:55,910 --> 00:24:56,921
committee earlier

1102
00:24:56,921 --> 00:24:57,839
this month. We

1103
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,131
presented them with all these

1104
00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:00,329
materials. We made

1105
00:25:00,329 --> 00:25:01,590
a presentation similar

1106
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:02,818
to the one you see

1107
00:25:02,818 --> 00:25:05,656
now. Some of

1108
00:25:05,656 --> 00:25:06,628
the feedback we

1109
00:25:06,628 --> 00:25:08,701
received from them was about

1110
00:25:08,734 --> 00:25:09,997
why this facility has

1111
00:25:09,997 --> 00:25:11,034
relatively high

1112
00:25:11,034 --> 00:25:12,103
emissions per

1113
00:25:12,103 --> 00:25:13,270
unit of

1114
00:25:13,270 --> 00:25:15,750
energy produced. Hmm, they

1115
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:16,498
remain

1116
00:25:16,498 --> 00:25:17,311
concerned about

1117
00:25:17,311 --> 00:25:18,548
particulate matter

1118
00:25:18,548 --> 00:25:19,816
from the facility, despite

1119
00:25:19,816 --> 00:25:21,085
the results of the

1120
00:25:21,085 --> 00:25:22,709
health risk assessment.

1121
00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:23,532
In particular, they

1122
00:25:23,532 --> 00:25:24,323
mention the

1123
00:25:24,323 --> 00:25:25,574
proximity to the school,

1124
00:25:25,574 --> 00:25:27,290
which worries them. Hmm,

1125
00:25:27,290 --> 00:25:28,225
they were, um,

1126
00:25:28,225 --> 00:25:30,244
unhappy that the

1127
00:25:31,777 --> 00:25:33,124
biomass technical advisory group, um, um, didn't

1128
00:25:33,124 --> 00:25:34,096
provide more

1129
00:25:34,096 --> 00:25:35,988
feedback. Hmm, and, um,

1130
00:25:35,988 --> 00:25:37,022
one of the members

1131
00:25:37,022 --> 00:25:38,171
noted that, um,

1132
00:25:38,171 --> 00:25:39,588
the comments and requests

1133
00:25:39,588 --> 00:25:40,889
for information that

1134
00:25:40,889 --> 00:25:42,038
have come from the CAC

1135
00:25:42,038 --> 00:25:43,340
over the

1136
00:25:43,340 --> 00:25:45,369
years and from the

1137
00:25:45,408 --> 00:25:46,556
Biomass Advisory Group have

1138
00:25:46,556 --> 00:25:47,705
really, you know,

1139
00:25:47,705 --> 00:25:48,969
moved the way for

1140
00:25:48,969 --> 00:25:50,347
more transparency from the

1141
00:25:50,347 --> 00:25:51,649
Humboldt Sawmill

1142
00:25:51,649 --> 00:25:56,240
Company, and that that's a win.

1143
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,408
I'll just show you

1144
00:25:57,408 --> 00:25:58,641
some graphs that

1145
00:25:58,641 --> 00:25:59,711
my colleague Forest

1146
00:25:59,711 --> 00:26:00,944
Novotny prepared

1147
00:26:00,944 --> 00:26:04,956
for us. And I will say that

1148
00:26:04,956 --> 00:26:05,940
for the most part, there are

1149
00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:07,088
no new

1150
00:26:07,088 --> 00:26:08,170
discoveries here, other than

1151
00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:09,318
similar graphs

1152
00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:10,237
that you have seen in

1153
00:26:10,237 --> 00:26:12,831
years past. So this

1154
00:26:12,831 --> 00:26:13,897
just shows,

1155
00:26:13,897 --> 00:26:15,257
starting in 2021,

1156
00:26:15,257 --> 00:26:16,066
what portion of the

1157
00:26:16,066 --> 00:26:17,463
material is coming

1158
00:26:17,463 --> 00:26:18,492
from outside

1159
00:26:18,492 --> 00:26:19,889
Humboldt County compared

1160
00:26:19,889 --> 00:26:22,246
to Humboldt County.

1161
00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:23,326
We believe this is

1162
00:26:23,326 --> 00:26:24,406
important because

1163
00:26:24,406 --> 00:26:25,486
one of the main

1164
00:26:25,486 --> 00:26:26,533
reasons for purchasing

1165
00:26:26,533 --> 00:26:27,646
biomass, which goes back to the

1166
00:26:27,646 --> 00:26:28,923
early days

1167
00:26:28,923 --> 00:26:30,134
, was that we believed it was to

1168
00:26:30,134 --> 00:26:30,952
help

1169
00:26:30,952 --> 00:26:32,687
solve the waste problem that is

1170
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,702
unique to

1171
00:26:33,702 --> 00:26:34,880
Humboldt County, and

1172
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,091
if a significant portion of the

1173
00:26:36,091 --> 00:26:37,335
material came

1174
00:26:37,335 --> 00:26:38,251
from outside of

1175
00:26:38,251 --> 00:26:39,495
Humboldt County, it

1176
00:26:39,495 --> 00:26:40,739
would undermine that

1177
00:26:40,739 --> 00:26:43,735
goal to some extent. But, as you can see,

1178
00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:44,907
the vast majority of

1179
00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:45,893
the material

1180
00:26:45,893 --> 00:26:47,096
came from

1181
00:26:47,096 --> 00:26:52,379
outside Humboldt quite consistently. As

1182
00:26:52,379 --> 00:26:53,110
for

1183
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:54,398
the origin, how much of

1184
00:26:54,398 --> 00:26:56,696
it comes from the

1185
00:26:56,730 --> 00:26:58,123
Humboldt Redwood Company sawmill adjacent

1186
00:26:58,123 --> 00:26:59,516
to the plant and how much from

1187
00:26:59,516 --> 00:27:00,839
outside sources,

1188
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:01,674
again,

1189
00:27:01,674 --> 00:27:02,997
the vast majority

1190
00:27:02,997 --> 00:27:04,285
comes from

1191
00:27:04,285 --> 00:27:05,190
HRC HSC's own operations, a

1192
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:05,991
vertically

1193
00:27:05,991 --> 00:27:06,862
integrated

1194
00:27:06,862 --> 00:27:14,391
industry. And that

1195
00:27:14,391 --> 00:27:15,273
just shows

1196
00:27:15,273 --> 00:27:16,307
how much material

1197
00:27:16,307 --> 00:27:17,493
didn't actually go

1198
00:27:17,493 --> 00:27:18,588
through the sawmill, but

1199
00:27:18,588 --> 00:27:19,500
could have come

1200
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:20,412
directly from

1201
00:27:20,412 --> 00:27:21,598
sawmill operations and

1202
00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:25,159
green waste.

1203
00:27:25,159 --> 00:27:26,344
Some of that was at the

1204
00:27:26,344 --> 00:27:27,178
beginning of this

1205
00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:27,915
graph, but

1206
00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:29,068
virtually everything else

1207
00:27:29,068 --> 00:27:29,998
you see is

1208
00:27:29,998 --> 00:27:31,088
just

1209
00:27:31,088 --> 00:27:31,793
coming internally from the

1210
00:27:31,793 --> 00:27:33,524
sawmill. So, in

1211
00:27:33,524 --> 00:27:35,177
terms of the

1212
00:27:36,092 --> 00:27:37,182
internally sourced materials that HSC

1213
00:27:37,182 --> 00:27:38,343
gets from its own

1214
00:27:38,343 --> 00:27:39,469
forest lands,

1215
00:27:39,469 --> 00:27:40,278
almost all of it

1216
00:27:40,278 --> 00:27:41,333
goes through the

1217
00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:43,666
sawmill. Um, um, it

1218
00:27:43,666 --> 00:27:45,264
just shows, um,

1219
00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:47,044
like, um, the layering of

1220
00:27:47,044 --> 00:27:48,778
these different, um, things on top of each

1221
00:27:48,778 --> 00:27:51,211
other. Um, and in

1222
00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:52,517
all these graphs, you

1223
00:27:52,517 --> 00:27:53,858
see that the trends

1224
00:27:53,858 --> 00:27:55,165
that were true for

1225
00:27:55,165 --> 00:27:56,299
previous years

1226
00:27:56,299 --> 00:27:59,353
continue. The only place

1227
00:27:59,353 --> 00:28:00,521
where we have seen

1228
00:28:00,521 --> 00:28:01,343
significant changes

1229
00:28:01,343 --> 00:28:02,417
recently is a

1230
00:28:02,417 --> 00:28:03,238
fairly large

1231
00:28:03,238 --> 00:28:04,502
drop in the use of

1232
00:28:04,502 --> 00:28:05,734
diesel fuel at the

1233
00:28:05,734 --> 00:28:07,837
plant. So, like other

1234
00:28:07,861 --> 00:28:08,353
biomass plants, they

1235
00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:08,846
have to

1236
00:28:08,846 --> 00:28:09,572
use

1237
00:28:09,572 --> 00:28:10,346
auxiliary fuels

1238
00:28:10,346 --> 00:28:11,049
because you can't

1239
00:28:11,049 --> 00:28:12,643
just start a

1240
00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:13,347
biomass plant just by

1241
00:28:13,347 --> 00:28:14,284
running on biomass from a

1242
00:28:14,284 --> 00:28:15,182
cold start.

1243
00:28:15,182 --> 00:28:15,742
You have to

1244
00:28:15,742 --> 00:28:16,809
use a different

1245
00:28:16,809 --> 00:28:17,907
fuel. In the case of HSC,

1246
00:28:17,907 --> 00:28:18,974
it is diesel fuel,

1247
00:28:18,974 --> 00:28:19,448
which they

1248
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:20,515
use for the

1249
00:28:20,515 --> 00:28:21,769
warm-up cycle. Um, um

1250
00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:23,065
, they've been using

1251
00:28:23,065 --> 00:28:24,264
it a lot less

1252
00:28:24,264 --> 00:28:25,333
in the last few

1253
00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:27,696
years. And

1254
00:28:27,696 --> 00:28:29,067
last year in particular, um, it's

1255
00:28:29,067 --> 00:28:30,439
partly due to

1256
00:28:30,439 --> 00:28:31,810
having to do

1257
00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:33,217
fewer stop-

1258
00:28:33,217 --> 00:28:34,625
and-restart cycles, um, um,

1259
00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:35,996
which, you know, is always a

1260
00:28:35,996 --> 00:28:38,173
win for them. Um, one more

1261
00:28:38,173 --> 00:28:39,372
thing, they

1262
00:28:39,372 --> 00:28:40,301
made some

1263
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:41,708
modifications. There was, um, a

1264
00:28:41,708 --> 00:28:42,781
steam circuit

1265
00:28:42,781 --> 00:28:43,854
that, um, in the past

1266
00:28:43,854 --> 00:28:45,046
was used to

1267
00:28:45,046 --> 00:28:45,791
provide

1268
00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:46,775
district

1269
00:28:46,775 --> 00:28:47,609
heating for the city of

1270
00:28:47,609 --> 00:28:48,804
Scotland. There was a

1271
00:28:48,804 --> 00:28:49,700
part of this

1272
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:50,939
circuit that was still,

1273
00:28:50,939 --> 00:28:53,315
um, not closed, and

1274
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:54,520
there was some

1275
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,863
heat loss through this circuit, as they

1276
00:28:55,863 --> 00:28:57,137
explained to us, and they

1277
00:28:57,137 --> 00:28:58,574
finally closed it.

1278
00:28:58,574 --> 00:28:59,519
Um, and that means that

1279
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:00,546
for every run

1280
00:29:00,546 --> 00:29:01,600
they do, they

1281
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,194
don't have to

1282
00:29:02,194 --> 00:29:03,113
heat as much

1283
00:29:03,113 --> 00:29:04,166
water to produce

1284
00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:05,220
steam, and there's just

1285
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:06,328
less energy loss. So it

1286
00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:07,320
just made the plant

1287
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,160
more efficient,

1288
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,949
especially during

1289
00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:09,915
this startup cycle

1290
00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:10,373
when they're

1291
00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:11,111
using

1292
00:29:11,111 --> 00:29:12,167
diesel. Um,

1293
00:29:12,167 --> 00:29:12,938
this is monthly

1294
00:29:12,938 --> 00:29:13,967
consumption, but I

1295
00:29:13,967 --> 00:29:15,091
think what's more

1296
00:29:15,091 --> 00:29:15,894
noticeable here if

1297
00:29:15,894 --> 00:29:17,083
you look at the annual

1298
00:29:17,083 --> 00:29:18,111
figures is that, um,

1299
00:29:18,111 --> 00:29:19,300
they've really, you know,

1300
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:20,907
reduced their diesel consumption significantly

1301
00:29:22,031 --> 00:29:23,220
year-over-year

1302
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:24,216
over the last

1303
00:29:24,216 --> 00:29:27,229
few years. Um, uh,

1304
00:29:27,229 --> 00:29:28,376
on this graph, there are

1305
00:29:28,376 --> 00:29:29,253
emissions that are not

1306
00:29:29,253 --> 00:29:30,569
related to biomass,

1307
00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:31,615
these are the orange

1308
00:29:31,615 --> 00:29:32,728
parts at the top of the

1309
00:29:32,728 --> 00:29:34,078
bars, and

1310
00:29:34,078 --> 00:29:35,427
these are emissions related to the

1311
00:29:35,427 --> 00:29:36,338
use of

1312
00:29:36,338 --> 00:29:37,485
diesel fuel

1313
00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:38,633
during these

1314
00:29:38,633 --> 00:29:41,420
restart cycles. And as

1315
00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:42,810
you can see, and as you would

1316
00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:43,995
expect,

1317
00:29:43,995 --> 00:29:45,589
CO2 emissions from biomass

1318
00:29:45,589 --> 00:29:47,060
far outweigh

1319
00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:49,832
them. And this is important for

1320
00:29:49,864 --> 00:29:50,648
environmental compliance purposes

1321
00:29:50,648 --> 00:29:51,809
,

1322
00:29:51,809 --> 00:29:52,719
because emissions not

1323
00:29:52,719 --> 00:29:53,943
related to biomass are

1324
00:29:53,943 --> 00:29:54,947
treated

1325
00:29:54,947 --> 00:29:55,806
differently. They

1326
00:29:55,806 --> 00:29:56,766
are counted as

1327
00:29:56,766 --> 00:29:58,046
net emissions for that

1328
00:29:58,046 --> 00:29:59,166
plant in the

1329
00:29:59,166 --> 00:29:59,934
cap and

1330
00:29:59,934 --> 00:30:01,022
trade

1331
00:30:01,022 --> 00:30:02,014
or cap and

1332
00:30:02,014 --> 00:30:03,166
invest program, while

1333
00:30:03,166 --> 00:30:04,414
CO2 emissions from biomass

1334
00:30:04,414 --> 00:30:05,502
are not counted but

1335
00:30:05,502 --> 00:30:06,398
are accounted for in the

1336
00:30:06,398 --> 00:30:07,262
energy

1337
00:30:07,262 --> 00:30:09,067
sector. Um, they're

1338
00:30:09,067 --> 00:30:10,469
counted separately

1339
00:30:10,469 --> 00:30:11,908
in the forestry sector, and

1340
00:30:11,908 --> 00:30:12,867
it's just, uh,

1341
00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:18,224
in line with the

1342
00:30:18,224 --> 00:30:19,577
UN Council's norms on how

1343
00:30:19,577 --> 00:30:20,896
emissions are considered

1344
00:30:20,896 --> 00:30:22,011
, which sector

1345
00:30:22,011 --> 00:30:25,358
they belong to.

1346
00:30:25,358 --> 00:30:27,272
So, that's all I have.

1347
00:30:27,272 --> 00:30:28,479
I'll be happy to answer

1348
00:30:28,479 --> 00:30:29,432
any

1349
00:30:29,432 --> 00:30:30,639
questions you have, and sorry

1350
00:30:30,639 --> 00:30:37,994
for my bad voice.

1351
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:39,258
Are there any questions from the

1352
00:30:39,258 --> 00:30:49,120
board of directors? I do

1353
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,719
n't hear any. I am

1354
00:30:50,719 --> 00:30:51,903
asking if there are any

1355
00:30:51,903 --> 00:30:53,222
public comments on

1356
00:30:53,222 --> 00:30:56,873
this issue.

1357
00:30:56,873 --> 00:30:58,109
So far, no one has

1358
00:30:58,109 --> 00:30:59,214
raised their hand online, and there is no

1359
00:30:59,214 --> 00:31:00,516
one in the room

1360
00:31:00,516 --> 00:31:03,690
to comment. I'll

1361
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:05,235
give the online participants

1362
00:31:05,235 --> 00:31:09,745
another second. No

1363
00:31:09,745 --> 00:31:10,890
hands raised, no

1364
00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:12,131
public comments

1365
00:31:12,131 --> 00:31:12,263
.

1366
00:31:12,263 --> 00:31:13,623
Thank you, Lauren. Are there

1367
00:31:13,623 --> 00:31:14,655
any

1368
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:15,713
board discussions before

1369
00:31:15,713 --> 00:31:16,744
we move forward

1370
00:31:16,744 --> 00:31:23,121
? Thank you.

1371
00:31:23,121 --> 00:31:24,190
I'll turn the next question over to

1372
00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:25,292
Deputy Chairman

1373
00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:26,362
Schaefer and recuse

1374
00:31:26,362 --> 00:31:27,270
myself, and I'll be

1375
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:28,372
back when you're

1376
00:31:28,372 --> 00:31:32,012
done.

1377
00:31:32,012 --> 00:31:33,381
Sorry, you need to

1378
00:31:33,381 --> 00:31:34,883
determine the cause.

1379
00:31:34,883 --> 00:31:35,876
Just in high

1380
00:31:35,876 --> 00:31:37,159
terms, but the reason for

1381
00:31:37,159 --> 00:31:37,997
the self-recusal.

1382
00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:39,119
Of course. Do

1383
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:40,374
you have any conflict of

1384
00:31:40,374 --> 00:31:41,071
interest?

1385
00:31:41,071 --> 00:31:42,275
The recipient of this

1386
00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:47,867
grant is the Yurok tribe.

1387
00:31:47,867 --> 00:31:48,935
I am the

1388
00:31:48,935 --> 00:31:50,036
Yurok representative on this

1389
00:31:50,036 --> 00:31:51,202
council, and I am also the vice

1390
00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:51,818
president of the

1391
00:31:51,818 --> 00:31:52,563
Construction

1392
00:31:52,563 --> 00:31:53,502
Corporation, which

1393
00:31:53,502 --> 00:31:54,733
may one day be

1394
00:31:54,733 --> 00:31:55,445
involved in

1395
00:31:55,445 --> 00:31:56,676
building some of the

1396
00:31:56,676 --> 00:31:57,809
infrastructure

1397
00:31:57,809 --> 00:31:58,846
funded by this

1398
00:31:58,846 --> 00:32:11,655
grant.

1399
00:32:11,655 --> 00:32:13,266
I found it here.

1400
00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:14,431
I may not be

1401
00:32:14,431 --> 00:32:15,794
on this page, but

1402
00:32:15,794 --> 00:32:16,749
either way,

1403
00:32:16,749 --> 00:32:17,849
I also have an agenda

1404
00:32:17,849 --> 00:32:18,963
in front of me.

1405
00:32:18,963 --> 00:32:20,385
Good. Um, yeah, well,

1406
00:32:20,385 --> 00:32:21,787
then I'll just pass

1407
00:32:21,787 --> 00:32:23,084
it on to our staff

1408
00:32:23,084 --> 00:32:25,004
for a report. Thank you,

1409
00:32:25,004 --> 00:32:25,640
Eileen.

1410
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,927
Yes, thank you. Hmm, I'm

1411
00:32:26,927 --> 00:32:27,597
going to give a

1412
00:32:27,597 --> 00:32:28,524
little overview because

1413
00:32:28,524 --> 00:32:29,065
we haven't

1414
00:32:29,065 --> 00:32:30,018
discussed this, um,

1415
00:32:30,018 --> 00:32:30,920
as an agenda item in a while

1416
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,950
. Er, RCA has

1417
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:32,852
applied as the lead

1418
00:32:32,852 --> 00:32:33,856
applicant for the

1419
00:32:33,856 --> 00:32:34,835
Department of

1420
00:32:34,835 --> 00:32:35,711
Energy Grant #2 in 2024

1421
00:32:35,711 --> 00:32:46,371
. And we were

1422
00:32:46,371 --> 00:32:48,649
informed, hmm, that we were

1423
00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:51,280
elected in 2024. And we

1424
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,583
applied for a

1425
00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:53,887
conditional grant to

1426
00:32:53,887 --> 00:32:54,938
the Department of

1427
00:32:54,938 --> 00:32:56,241
Energy, ahem, in

1428
00:32:56,241 --> 00:32:57,881
January 2025 for a

1429
00:32:57,881 --> 00:32:59,017
little over 87

1430
00:32:59,017 --> 00:33:02,238
million. Uh, the project

1431
00:33:02,238 --> 00:33:02,923
that was

1432
00:33:02,923 --> 00:33:04,191
awarded, um, was to

1433
00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:05,390
build

1434
00:33:05,390 --> 00:33:06,658
four tribally

1435
00:33:06,658 --> 00:33:07,583
owned and

1436
00:33:07,583 --> 00:33:08,439
operated microgrids

1437
00:33:08,439 --> 00:33:11,497
. Um, three of

1438
00:33:11,497 --> 00:33:13,090
which were on the

1439
00:33:13,090 --> 00:33:14,511
Hoopa 1101 line. So

1440
00:33:14,511 --> 00:33:15,458
our

1441
00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:17,094
tribal partners

1442
00:33:17,094 --> 00:33:18,601
were the Yurok, the Blue Lake

1443
00:33:18,601 --> 00:33:20,280
Rancheria, the Hoopa, and, um, the

1444
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,842
Karuk tribe. Hmm, we

1445
00:33:23,842 --> 00:33:25,234
know we've been faced

1446
00:33:25,234 --> 00:33:27,881
with what many, um,

1447
00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:28,751
Department of

1448
00:33:28,751 --> 00:33:30,144
Energy grantees have been called

1449
00:33:30,144 --> 00:33:31,259
"ghosting" by the

1450
00:33:31,259 --> 00:33:32,512
federal government

1451
00:33:32,512 --> 00:33:33,278
since the change in

1452
00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:34,079
federal

1453
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:38,656
administration. And, uh,

1454
00:33:38,656 --> 00:33:40,342
we were later put on the

1455
00:33:40,342 --> 00:33:41,850
list of discontinued

1456
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:43,536
projects in October 2025

1457
00:33:43,536 --> 00:33:47,085
. However, RCA

1458
00:33:47,085 --> 00:33:48,867
never received a

1459
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:49,841
termination notice from

1460
00:33:49,841 --> 00:33:50,682
the Department of

1461
00:33:50,682 --> 00:33:53,827
Energy. So we're

1462
00:33:53,827 --> 00:33:55,350
just left in

1463
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:56,914
limbo for the

1464
00:33:56,914 --> 00:33:58,354
entirety of 2025

1465
00:33:58,354 --> 00:34:00,988
. In early

1466
00:34:00,988 --> 00:34:03,268
February 2026, uh, the

1467
00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:04,389
US Department of Energy

1468
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:05,742
notified us of its

1469
00:34:05,742 --> 00:34:07,249
readiness to begin

1470
00:34:07,249 --> 00:34:08,602
uh, negotiations and

1471
00:34:08,602 --> 00:34:10,148
finalize

1472
00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:12,978
our contract.

1473
00:34:12,978 --> 00:34:14,250
Then they informed

1474
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:15,163
us that, uh, we

1475
00:34:15,163 --> 00:34:16,467
would have to exclude

1476
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:17,544
solar energy from

1477
00:34:17,544 --> 00:34:18,718
the project and any

1478
00:34:18,718 --> 00:34:23,134
community benefits. Uh

1479
00:34:23,134 --> 00:34:24,551
, and, uh, then, uh, RCA,

1480
00:34:24,551 --> 00:34:25,614
along with our

1481
00:34:25,614 --> 00:34:26,756
partners, uh,

1482
00:34:26,756 --> 00:34:28,331
made the decision to, uh,

1483
00:34:28,331 --> 00:34:29,512
expand the scope of

1484
00:34:29,512 --> 00:34:30,418
the project to

1485
00:34:30,418 --> 00:34:31,756
exclude solar

1486
00:34:31,756 --> 00:34:33,134
energy, to exclude

1487
00:34:33,134 --> 00:34:34,670
community benefits, and

1488
00:34:34,670 --> 00:34:36,166
then, uh, by that time

1489
00:34:36,166 --> 00:34:37,662
we had lost one of

1490
00:34:37,662 --> 00:34:38,843
our tribal

1491
00:34:38,843 --> 00:34:42,338
partners, Karuk.

1492
00:34:42,338 --> 00:34:43,925
So, uh, we

1493
00:34:43,925 --> 00:34:45,297
resubmitted, uh, the scope of

1494
00:34:45,297 --> 00:34:47,013
work and the budget, uh, with

1495
00:34:47,013 --> 00:34:48,600
these changes, uh, for

1496
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,758
about 65

1497
00:34:49,758 --> 00:34:51,388
million, uh, and, uh, on a one-

1498
00:34:51,388 --> 00:34:53,104
to-

1499
00:34:53,104 --> 00:34:54,777
one basis, uh, the total,

1500
00:34:54,777 --> 00:34:55,978
uh, federal

1501
00:34:55,978 --> 00:34:57,350
cost of the project

1502
00:34:57,350 --> 00:34:58,637
is just

1503
00:34:58,637 --> 00:35:05,689
over 132 million.

1504
00:35:05,689 --> 00:35:06,631
Um, the federal

1505
00:35:06,631 --> 00:35:07,887
part of the project, as it's

1506
00:35:07,887 --> 00:35:08,899
currently written,

1507
00:35:08,899 --> 00:35:09,946
includes a

1508
00:35:09,946 --> 00:35:10,958
battery

1509
00:35:10,958 --> 00:35:12,319
energy storage system,

1510
00:35:12,319 --> 00:35:12,878
uh, a small

1511
00:35:12,878 --> 00:35:14,273
hydroelectric power plant,

1512
00:35:14,273 --> 00:35:15,320
uh, for one of the

1513
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,647
project partners, uh

1514
00:35:16,647 --> 00:35:17,659
, long-term

1515
00:35:17,659 --> 00:35:18,985
energy storage

1516
00:35:18,985 --> 00:35:20,206
for two of the

1517
00:35:20,206 --> 00:35:21,532
project partners, and emergency,

1518
00:35:21,532 --> 00:35:27,072
uh, generators. Um,

1519
00:35:27,072 --> 00:35:28,290
tribes may, uh,

1520
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:28,865
decide to

1521
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:29,710
continue

1522
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:30,759
using

1523
00:35:30,759 --> 00:35:32,078
solar technology in

1524
00:35:32,078 --> 00:35:33,421
these systems. This

1525
00:35:33,421 --> 00:35:34,513
simply cannot be

1526
00:35:34,513 --> 00:35:35,029
part of a

1527
00:35:35,029 --> 00:35:36,282
federal grant.

1528
00:35:36,282 --> 00:35:37,654
This must be due to, uh,

1529
00:35:37,654 --> 00:35:39,064
funding outside of, uh

1530
00:35:39,064 --> 00:35:40,065
, a federal

1531
00:35:40,065 --> 00:35:43,486
grant. So, as of

1532
00:35:43,486 --> 00:35:44,756
last week,

1533
00:35:44,756 --> 00:35:45,956
when we were writing this

1534
00:35:45,956 --> 00:35:47,226
staff report, uh,

1535
00:35:47,226 --> 00:35:48,496
we were told that, uh,

1536
00:35:48,496 --> 00:35:49,660
we have to submit a

1537
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:50,966
final

1538
00:35:50,966 --> 00:35:51,530
grant application to

1539
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:52,412
the Department of

1540
00:35:52,412 --> 00:35:53,612
Energy, uh, by

1541
00:35:53,612 --> 00:35:54,882
the end of the federal

1542
00:35:54,882 --> 00:35:56,046
fiscal year,

1543
00:35:56,046 --> 00:35:57,457
which is September 30th

1544
00:35:57,457 --> 00:36:00,095
next week. Er,

1545
00:36:00,095 --> 00:36:01,343
and er, that's why we

1546
00:36:01,343 --> 00:36:02,295
had the

1547
00:36:02,295 --> 00:36:03,280
issue of

1548
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,561
obtaining permission to

1549
00:36:04,561 --> 00:36:05,546
implement this

1550
00:36:05,546 --> 00:36:08,159
grant on our agenda. Um, our,

1551
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:09,197
you know, the latest

1552
00:36:09,197 --> 00:36:10,056
news, uh, from

1553
00:36:10,056 --> 00:36:10,951
the Department of

1554
00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:12,347
Energy as of

1555
00:36:12,347 --> 00:36:13,636
Monday, uh, they

1556
00:36:13,636 --> 00:36:14,853
informed us that

1557
00:36:14,853 --> 00:36:16,177
they, uh, won't be able to

1558
00:36:16,177 --> 00:36:17,215
meet that

1559
00:36:17,215 --> 00:36:19,864
deadline and, uh, that they will pick up where

1560
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:21,010
we

1561
00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:22,370
left off in October

1562
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:23,802
after the start of the new,

1563
00:36:23,802 --> 00:36:24,947
uh, federal

1564
00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:29,321
fiscal year. Uh,

1565
00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:30,253
I've had detailed

1566
00:36:30,253 --> 00:36:31,322
conversations with our

1567
00:36:31,322 --> 00:36:32,426
contacts there, and

1568
00:36:32,426 --> 00:36:33,738
they assure us

1569
00:36:33,738 --> 00:36:34,738
that it's, uh, due to a

1570
00:36:34,738 --> 00:36:35,946
workload issue

1571
00:36:35,946 --> 00:36:38,794
. They,

1572
00:36:38,794 --> 00:36:40,249
uh, lost a lot of

1573
00:36:40,249 --> 00:36:42,444
staff. Uh, and, uh,

1574
00:36:42,444 --> 00:36:43,729
that they have full

1575
00:36:43,729 --> 00:36:44,586
approval to

1576
00:36:44,586 --> 00:36:45,478
approve the

1577
00:36:45,478 --> 00:36:47,191
contract. It just

1578
00:36:47,191 --> 00:36:49,672
has to go through the, uh, contracting stages

1579
00:36:49,705 --> 00:36:50,684
for final

1580
00:36:50,684 --> 00:36:53,531
approval. Uh, uh.

1581
00:36:53,531 --> 00:36:54,550
So, uh, they

1582
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:55,921
expect another

1583
00:36:55,921 --> 00:36:57,450
1-2 month delay

1584
00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:58,391
with the final

1585
00:36:58,391 --> 00:36:59,449
approval of the

1586
00:36:59,449 --> 00:37:05,581
contract. Uh, in

1587
00:37:05,581 --> 00:37:07,126
addition, this project, uh,

1588
00:37:07,126 --> 00:37:08,346
RCA's budget, uh,

1589
00:37:08,346 --> 00:37:09,729
includes, uh, funds

1590
00:37:09,729 --> 00:37:10,461
for a number of

1591
00:37:10,461 --> 00:37:11,925
staff to

1592
00:37:11,925 --> 00:37:15,810
support the project. Uh

1593
00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:17,057
, and as you may

1594
00:37:17,057 --> 00:37:18,304
remember, when we

1595
00:37:18,304 --> 00:37:19,587
passed the budget, we

1596
00:37:19,587 --> 00:37:20,585
froze all

1597
00:37:20,585 --> 00:37:25,705
vacant positions. Um, what

1598
00:37:25,705 --> 00:37:26,864
we're asking for, in addition to

1599
00:37:26,864 --> 00:37:28,060
the approval, um, uh, of

1600
00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:29,509
our implementation of the agreement

1601
00:37:29,509 --> 00:37:30,524
once we

1602
00:37:30,524 --> 00:37:31,683
get it, is, um,

1603
00:37:31,683 --> 00:37:32,734
unfreezing

1604
00:37:32,734 --> 00:37:34,002
the position of

1605
00:37:34,002 --> 00:37:34,944
Contracts and

1606
00:37:34,944 --> 00:37:35,995
Grants Manager, um, to

1607
00:37:35,995 --> 00:37:37,190
give us more

1608
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:38,277
room to

1609
00:37:38,277 --> 00:37:43,622
scale. Um, but

1610
00:37:43,622 --> 00:37:44,786
again, due to the

1611
00:37:44,786 --> 00:37:45,916
uncertainty and the

1612
00:37:45,916 --> 00:37:47,246
constant delays, we're

1613
00:37:47,246 --> 00:37:48,011
making this

1614
00:37:48,011 --> 00:37:48,942
contingent on

1615
00:37:48,942 --> 00:37:50,239
actually getting the

1616
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,270
, um, final

1617
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:56,260
decision. Um, uh...So,

1618
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:57,845
at this point, RCA has a

1619
00:37:57,845 --> 00:37:59,232
draft of the terms and

1620
00:37:59,232 --> 00:37:59,866
conditions from the

1621
00:37:59,866 --> 00:38:00,856
Department of

1622
00:38:00,856 --> 00:38:05,717
Energy. Um, we won't

1623
00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:07,060
get the final

1624
00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:08,135
terms and conditions,

1625
00:38:08,135 --> 00:38:09,344
probably, until they

1626
00:38:09,344 --> 00:38:10,319
give us the

1627
00:38:10,319 --> 00:38:14,236
final decision.

1628
00:38:14,236 --> 00:38:15,522
They told us that

1629
00:38:15,522 --> 00:38:16,775
although they call

1630
00:38:16,775 --> 00:38:17,520
it a

1631
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,739
negotiation process, we, um,

1632
00:38:18,739 --> 00:38:19,991
don't have the ability to

1633
00:38:19,991 --> 00:38:21,007
negotiate

1634
00:38:21,007 --> 00:38:22,328
terms, and that it will be on a

1635
00:38:22,328 --> 00:38:23,547
"take it or

1636
00:38:23,547 --> 00:38:26,902
leave" basis. Um, we

1637
00:38:26,902 --> 00:38:27,901
discussed this with

1638
00:38:27,901 --> 00:38:29,074
our tribal

1639
00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:32,173
partners. Um, and the plan is that

1640
00:38:32,173 --> 00:38:33,694
RCA

1641
00:38:33,694 --> 00:38:35,174
will execute, um, when we

1642
00:38:35,174 --> 00:38:41,410
get it. However

1643
00:38:41,410 --> 00:38:42,207
, um, our

1644
00:38:42,207 --> 00:38:43,583
tribal partners

1645
00:38:43,583 --> 00:38:44,416
will have time to, um,

1646
00:38:44,416 --> 00:38:45,829
review the terms and

1647
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:47,205
submit them to their

1648
00:38:47,205 --> 00:38:48,292
respective, um,

1649
00:38:48,292 --> 00:38:49,487
governing bodies, the

1650
00:38:49,487 --> 00:38:50,755
tribal council for

1651
00:38:50,755 --> 00:38:52,022
approval

1652
00:38:52,022 --> 00:38:53,218
before they enter into

1653
00:38:53,218 --> 00:38:54,666
subgrants with the RCA, um, to

1654
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,007
make sure, um, that there is

1655
00:38:56,007 --> 00:38:57,455
final...that there is agreement

1656
00:38:57,455 --> 00:38:58,904
among the partners, um, that

1657
00:38:58,904 --> 00:39:00,353
we are prepared to accept these

1658
00:39:00,353 --> 00:39:06,942
terms. Um, I think that's

1659
00:39:06,942 --> 00:39:08,746
all I'll sum up.

1660
00:39:08,746 --> 00:39:10,724
Great, thank you, Eileen.

1661
00:39:10,724 --> 00:39:12,393
Um, is there a question from the council

1662
00:39:12,393 --> 00:39:16,675
? I have a question. Um,

1663
00:39:16,675 --> 00:39:17,658
could you

1664
00:39:17,658 --> 00:39:18,743
tell us a little bit

1665
00:39:18,743 --> 00:39:19,421
more about the

1666
00:39:19,421 --> 00:39:20,777
co-funding, um,

1667
00:39:20,777 --> 00:39:22,133
from CEC, and whether we already have

1668
00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:23,286
that grant, and how it

1669
00:39:23,286 --> 00:39:24,337
works for this

1670
00:39:24,337 --> 00:39:27,461
project?

1671
00:39:27,461 --> 00:39:29,547
So, um,

1672
00:39:29,585 --> 00:39:30,822
peer-to-peer funding is a

1673
00:39:30,822 --> 00:39:32,328
real feat for

1674
00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:33,796
these organizations to

1675
00:39:33,796 --> 00:39:35,303
raise an additional $60.3

1676
00:39:35,303 --> 00:39:36,462
million, that's what it ends up being

1677
00:39:36,462 --> 00:39:41,777
. Um,

1678
00:39:41,777 --> 00:39:44,138
RCA received

1679
00:39:45,698 --> 00:39:50,914
$6 million in co-funding from CEC. It has been

1680
00:39:50,914 --> 00:39:52,054
a few years since

1681
00:39:52,054 --> 00:39:52,792
they

1682
00:39:52,792 --> 00:39:54,100
informed us that we had

1683
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:55,341
received it, so we

1684
00:39:55,341 --> 00:39:56,548
received an updated

1685
00:39:56,548 --> 00:39:57,890
commitment letter from

1686
00:39:57,890 --> 00:39:59,165
CEC stating that these funds

1687
00:39:59,165 --> 00:39:59,668
are still

1688
00:39:59,668 --> 00:40:00,708
required and

1689
00:40:00,708 --> 00:40:05,349
available to us.

1690
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:06,704
Our partners have

1691
00:40:06,704 --> 00:40:07,986
various other

1692
00:40:07,986 --> 00:40:08,938
funding sources,

1693
00:40:08,938 --> 00:40:10,367
including grants from

1694
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:11,612
CEC for long-term

1695
00:40:11,612 --> 00:40:12,968
energy storage,

1696
00:40:12,968 --> 00:40:14,360
some funds from BIA, and

1697
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,163
others.

1698
00:40:18,163 --> 00:40:19,519
Thank you. Okay, we'll

1699
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:20,377
put this up for

1700
00:40:20,377 --> 00:40:21,044
public

1701
00:40:21,044 --> 00:40:22,523
discussion. Is someone in

1702
00:40:22,523 --> 00:40:23,958
the room or is someone in the

1703
00:40:23,958 --> 00:40:25,450
Zoom room? No one

1704
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:26,458
raised their hands

1705
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:27,657
online.

1706
00:40:27,657 --> 00:40:29,018
Good. Um, so I'll

1707
00:40:29,018 --> 00:40:30,272
bring this back to our

1708
00:40:30,272 --> 00:40:31,561
board for further

1709
00:40:31,561 --> 00:40:32,781
discussion, other

1710
00:40:32,781 --> 00:40:33,722
issues, um, or I'll

1711
00:40:33,722 --> 00:40:36,053
consider the proposal.

1712
00:40:36,053 --> 00:40:37,456
We have the wrong

1713
00:40:37,456 --> 00:40:39,059
slide, but it's also

1714
00:40:39,059 --> 00:40:40,582
on your, um,

1715
00:40:40,582 --> 00:40:58,710
agenda for 11.2. Okay,

1716
00:40:58,710 --> 00:41:00,048
brave risk-takers,

1717
00:41:00,048 --> 00:41:01,458
do we have any board members

1718
00:41:01,458 --> 00:41:02,680
ready to participate?

1719
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,242
I would say that I would, um,

1720
00:41:04,242 --> 00:41:05,270
propose to

1721
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:06,298
authorize the

1722
00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:07,244
Executive

1723
00:41:07,244 --> 00:41:08,231
Director of RCEA to

1724
00:41:08,231 --> 00:41:10,245
execute funds from the

1725
00:41:10,287 --> 00:41:12,055
Department of

1726
00:41:12,096 --> 00:41:13,617
Energy Grid Resilience GRIP program,

1727
00:41:13,617 --> 00:41:14,933
um,

1728
00:41:14,933 --> 00:41:17,565
Innovation Partnership for

1729
00:41:17,606 --> 00:41:19,168
Tribal Resilience and Sovereignty Project

1730
00:41:19,168 --> 00:41:20,760
GD0000967. Final

1731
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,656
awarding and

1732
00:41:21,656 --> 00:41:22,523
unfreezing of

1733
00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:23,241
contracts and

1734
00:41:23,241 --> 00:41:24,358
grants manager.

1735
00:41:24,358 --> 00:41:25,361
After signing the

1736
00:41:25,361 --> 00:41:26,082
final

1737
00:41:26,082 --> 00:41:29,273
award.

1738
00:41:29,273 --> 00:41:30,049
So, we have a

1739
00:41:30,049 --> 00:41:31,400
suggestion from Director

1740
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,537
Stephanie. Do we have a

1741
00:41:32,537 --> 00:41:33,694
second?

1742
00:41:33,694 --> 00:41:35,067
I support her.

1743
00:41:35,067 --> 00:41:37,701
Okay, thank you. And we

1744
00:41:37,701 --> 00:41:38,899
will hold a roll call

1745
00:41:38,899 --> 00:41:39,997
vote,

1746
00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:40,652
please.

1747
00:41:40,652 --> 00:41:41,679
Um, my roll call

1748
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:42,912
vote is

1749
00:41:42,912 --> 00:41:44,511
no longer needed. Director

1750
00:41:44,511 --> 00:41:45,782
Mike Wilson is no longer

1751
00:41:45,782 --> 00:41:46,895
online, so we are all

1752
00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:47,536
present.

1753
00:41:47,536 --> 00:41:48,800
Okay, then we'll just

1754
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,611
vote by

1755
00:41:49,611 --> 00:41:51,126
show of hands. All in

1756
00:41:51,126 --> 00:41:53,400
favor, me. Okay, and it

1757
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,808
looks like it's unanimous

1758
00:41:54,808 --> 00:41:55,746
, and the proposal is

1759
00:41:55,746 --> 00:41:57,947
accepted. So, we will

1760
00:41:57,947 --> 00:41:58,832
regain the

1761
00:41:58,832 --> 00:42:00,033
presidency, and then

1762
00:42:00,033 --> 00:42:01,139
move on to new

1763
00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:22,596
business.

1764
00:42:22,596 --> 00:42:23,881
Okay, and I'll give the floor to Chairman

1765
00:42:23,881 --> 00:42:26,244
Garosh.

1766
00:42:26,244 --> 00:42:30,080
Thank you very much.

1767
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Moving on to new

1768
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,875
business, new RCA business,

1769
00:42:32,875 --> 00:42:33,868
and our first

1770
00:42:33,868 --> 00:42:34,751
item will be the

1771
00:42:34,751 --> 00:42:36,002
regional climate

1772
00:42:36,002 --> 00:42:36,995
change action plan

1773
00:42:36,995 --> 00:42:38,245
, and in particular the

1774
00:42:38,245 --> 00:42:39,275
establishment of the RCA as a

1775
00:42:39,275 --> 00:42:40,710
host agency, and

1776
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:42,181
uh, we'll hand it over to

1777
00:42:42,181 --> 00:42:46,556
Beth.

1778
00:42:46,556 --> 00:42:47,849
Thank you. Um, I'm very

1779
00:42:47,849 --> 00:42:48,951
pleased to present

1780
00:42:48,951 --> 00:42:49,955
this item, uh, this is a

1781
00:42:49,955 --> 00:42:50,861
memorandum of

1782
00:42:50,861 --> 00:42:51,898
understanding

1783
00:42:51,898 --> 00:42:53,031
that will perpetuate the RCA as the

1784
00:42:53,031 --> 00:42:54,068
venue for

1785
00:42:54,068 --> 00:42:54,586
efforts to

1786
00:42:54,586 --> 00:42:55,396
implement a

1787
00:42:55,396 --> 00:42:56,626
regional climate

1788
00:42:56,626 --> 00:42:57,501
change action plan

1789
00:42:57,501 --> 00:42:58,461
. Um, and

1790
00:42:58,461 --> 00:42:59,398
the memorandum of

1791
00:42:59,398 --> 00:43:00,366
understanding

1792
00:43:00,366 --> 00:43:01,303
also specifies

1793
00:43:01,303 --> 00:43:01,834
a mechanism for

1794
00:43:01,834 --> 00:43:02,864
co-financing

1795
00:43:02,864 --> 00:43:03,864
the position of head of the

1796
00:43:03,864 --> 00:43:04,644
regional

1797
00:43:04,644 --> 00:43:05,862
climate program

1798
00:43:05,862 --> 00:43:07,865
. So, your board

1799
00:43:07,865 --> 00:43:08,683
initially instructed

1800
00:43:08,683 --> 00:43:09,595
employees to

1801
00:43:09,595 --> 00:43:10,791
consider

1802
00:43:10,791 --> 00:43:11,956
participating in

1803
00:43:11,956 --> 00:43:12,963
this position and this

1804
00:43:12,963 --> 00:43:14,850
program back in January.

1805
00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:15,946
This commitment was

1806
00:43:15,946 --> 00:43:17,043
reaffirmed several

1807
00:43:17,043 --> 00:43:18,198
times throughout the year as

1808
00:43:18,198 --> 00:43:18,948
part of our

1809
00:43:18,948 --> 00:43:20,322
budget process. And in

1810
00:43:20,322 --> 00:43:21,378
the meantime, we are

1811
00:43:21,378 --> 00:43:22,249
working closely with

1812
00:43:22,249 --> 00:43:23,305
our

1813
00:43:23,305 --> 00:43:24,486
member institutions to reach

1814
00:43:24,486 --> 00:43:25,450
agreement on this

1815
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:26,382
Memorandum of

1816
00:43:26,382 --> 00:43:27,532
Understanding and,

1817
00:43:27,532 --> 00:43:28,620
in particular, the mechanism for

1818
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:29,646
co-financing

1819
00:43:29,646 --> 00:43:31,121
this position. So, at

1820
00:43:31,121 --> 00:43:31,842
this point,

1821
00:43:31,842 --> 00:43:32,683
the Memorandum of

1822
00:43:32,683 --> 00:43:33,644
Understanding

1823
00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:34,785
that you are considering

1824
00:43:34,785 --> 00:43:35,686
has been vetted by

1825
00:43:35,686 --> 00:43:36,937
all jurisdictions.

1826
00:43:36,937 --> 00:43:38,168
We have not received any

1827
00:43:38,168 --> 00:43:38,908
requests to

1828
00:43:38,908 --> 00:43:39,985
make any

1829
00:43:39,985 --> 00:43:41,187
specific changes, and we

1830
00:43:41,187 --> 00:43:42,110
have a positive

1831
00:43:42,110 --> 00:43:43,312
response from

1832
00:43:43,312 --> 00:43:44,543
Arcata County and the cities of Arcata

1833
00:43:44,543 --> 00:43:45,591
and Eureka that

1834
00:43:45,591 --> 00:43:45,868
they

1835
00:43:45,868 --> 00:43:46,946
will recommend to

1836
00:43:46,946 --> 00:43:48,147
their councils that they adopt

1837
00:43:48,147 --> 00:43:49,009
the Memorandum of

1838
00:43:49,009 --> 00:43:50,056
Understanding in

1839
00:43:50,056 --> 00:43:50,919
its current

1840
00:43:50,919 --> 00:43:55,502
form. Others, I think

1841
00:43:55,502 --> 00:43:56,661
, are still deciding

1842
00:43:56,661 --> 00:43:57,274
when to

1843
00:43:57,274 --> 00:43:58,364
continue this

1844
00:43:58,364 --> 00:43:59,182
item, still

1845
00:43:59,182 --> 00:44:00,000
working on

1846
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,294
co-financing in

1847
00:44:01,294 --> 00:44:02,180
their own

1848
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:05,141
budgets. Uh, but the

1849
00:44:05,141 --> 00:44:06,056
way

1850
00:44:06,056 --> 00:44:06,971
the Memorandum of

1851
00:44:06,971 --> 00:44:08,213
Understanding will work, um,

1852
00:44:08,213 --> 00:44:09,455
it will come into effect

1853
00:44:09,455 --> 00:44:10,730
once 85% of the population

1854
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:11,318
, uh, is

1855
00:44:11,318 --> 00:44:12,397
represented, uh,

1856
00:44:12,397 --> 00:44:13,148
by signing the

1857
00:44:13,148 --> 00:44:14,229
jurisdiction. So,

1858
00:44:14,229 --> 00:44:15,291
effectively, once the

1859
00:44:15,291 --> 00:44:16,175
county, Arcata, and

1860
00:44:16,175 --> 00:44:17,237
Eureka sign, we

1861
00:44:17,237 --> 00:44:18,121
will have reached that

1862
00:44:18,121 --> 00:44:19,271
threshold, uh, and we can

1863
00:44:19,271 --> 00:44:20,333
call the Memorandum

1864
00:44:20,333 --> 00:44:21,453
of Understanding

1865
00:44:21,453 --> 00:44:22,352
effective. Uh, this

1866
00:44:22,352 --> 00:44:23,702
commits our CCA, uh

1867
00:44:23,702 --> 00:44:24,879
, for the term of

1868
00:44:24,879 --> 00:44:26,159
the Memorandum of

1869
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:27,267
Understanding,

1870
00:44:27,267 --> 00:44:28,582
which will be December 31, uh

1871
00:44:28,582 --> 00:44:29,932
, 2030, to take on, uh

1872
00:44:29,932 --> 00:44:31,074
, a position, uh, that

1873
00:44:31,074 --> 00:44:32,182
will be covered, uh, again

1874
00:44:32,182 --> 00:44:33,012
, by

1875
00:44:33,012 --> 00:44:34,328
cost sharing, uh

1876
00:44:34,328 --> 00:44:35,712
, but also take on,

1877
00:44:35,712 --> 00:44:36,266
acting as a

1878
00:44:36,266 --> 00:44:37,651
regional

1879
00:44:37,651 --> 00:44:39,032
climate committee. Uh,

1880
00:44:39,032 --> 00:44:40,035
this will be your council with the

1881
00:44:40,035 --> 00:44:40,637
addition of a

1882
00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:42,127
representative from the

1883
00:44:43,302 --> 00:44:44,506
Humboldt Waste Management Authority, the

1884
00:44:45,136 --> 00:44:46,770
Humboldt Transportation Authority, and the

1885
00:44:46,798 --> 00:44:48,042
Humboldt County Association of Governments. Uh,

1886
00:44:48,042 --> 00:44:48,881
so they'll all

1887
00:44:48,881 --> 00:44:49,850
join

1888
00:44:49,850 --> 00:44:51,059
our council. We would, uh,

1889
00:44:51,059 --> 00:44:52,044
it's outlined in the

1890
00:44:52,044 --> 00:44:53,088
staff report, but we would

1891
00:44:53,088 --> 00:44:54,247
essentially, uh, probably

1892
00:44:54,247 --> 00:44:55,058
conduct these, uh,

1893
00:44:55,058 --> 00:44:57,144
regional

1894
00:44:57,173 --> 00:44:58,188
climate committee matters at the beginning of the

1895
00:44:58,188 --> 00:44:59,984
council meeting,

1896
00:45:00,013 --> 00:45:00,767
bringing in these

1897
00:45:00,767 --> 00:45:01,375
additional

1898
00:45:01,375 --> 00:45:02,473
representatives if necessary. We would have to

1899
00:45:02,473 --> 00:45:03,553
close the

1900
00:45:03,553 --> 00:45:04,663
RCA UA board meeting,

1901
00:45:04,663 --> 00:45:06,668
reconvene as a

1902
00:45:06,699 --> 00:45:07,532
climate committee with these

1903
00:45:07,532 --> 00:45:08,241
additional

1904
00:45:08,241 --> 00:45:09,166
representatives,

1905
00:45:09,166 --> 00:45:11,078
complete the business of the

1906
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:12,035
climate committee, and then

1907
00:45:12,035 --> 00:45:13,237
close it, and then

1908
00:45:13,237 --> 00:45:14,317
reconvene as the

1909
00:45:14,317 --> 00:45:14,841
RCA board, and

1910
00:45:14,841 --> 00:45:15,767
continue as

1911
00:45:15,767 --> 00:45:17,017
usual. This sounds

1912
00:45:17,017 --> 00:45:18,737
awkward. That will happen,

1913
00:45:18,737 --> 00:45:20,015
but it is also done

1914
00:45:20,015 --> 00:45:21,294
in other organizations,

1915
00:45:21,294 --> 00:45:22,317
so it is not entirely

1916
00:45:22,317 --> 00:45:23,979
unusual. And we

1917
00:45:23,979 --> 00:45:25,211
will pave our way

1918
00:45:25,211 --> 00:45:26,255
to this. Another thing

1919
00:45:26,255 --> 00:45:26,848
provided for in

1920
00:45:26,848 --> 00:45:27,673
the Memorandum of

1921
00:45:27,673 --> 00:45:28,653
Understanding is the

1922
00:45:28,653 --> 00:45:29,684
creation of a technical

1923
00:45:29,684 --> 00:45:30,535
advisory

1924
00:45:30,535 --> 00:45:32,465
committee. This would be a

1925
00:45:32,494 --> 00:45:34,566
staff-level committee, also a

1926
00:45:34,596 --> 00:45:35,276
Brown Act body, that would

1927
00:45:35,276 --> 00:45:36,164
advise the

1928
00:45:36,164 --> 00:45:37,348
regional

1929
00:45:37,348 --> 00:45:38,532
climate committee on

1930
00:45:38,532 --> 00:45:39,686
projects and programs, and

1931
00:45:39,686 --> 00:45:40,870
on

1932
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:43,021
prioritizing efforts.

1933
00:45:43,021 --> 00:45:43,550
So, we

1934
00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:44,574
commit to,

1935
00:45:44,574 --> 00:45:45,810
you know, forming

1936
00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:47,082
this committee and leading

1937
00:45:47,082 --> 00:45:49,492
its work. In

1938
00:45:49,492 --> 00:45:50,474
the Memorandum of

1939
00:45:50,474 --> 00:45:51,653
Understanding, we

1940
00:45:51,653 --> 00:45:52,864
also committed to

1941
00:45:52,864 --> 00:45:54,468
providing our CEA with

1942
00:45:54,501 --> 00:45:55,647
in-kind resources,

1943
00:45:55,647 --> 00:45:56,662
that is,

1944
00:45:56,662 --> 00:45:57,873
staff-level services for

1945
00:45:57,873 --> 00:45:58,790
things like

1946
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:59,608
clerical

1947
00:45:59,608 --> 00:46:00,558
support for

1948
00:46:00,558 --> 00:46:01,737
committee meetings

1949
00:46:01,737 --> 00:46:02,719
and regional

1950
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,472
climate

1951
00:46:03,472 --> 00:46:04,749
committees, approximately

1952
00:46:04,749 --> 00:46:06,965
140,000 per year. So, again, this will

1953
00:46:06,995 --> 00:46:07,862
come at

1954
00:46:07,862 --> 00:46:08,326
the expense of

1955
00:46:08,326 --> 00:46:09,533
clerical services

1956
00:46:09,533 --> 00:46:10,554
, as well as, uh, the

1957
00:46:10,554 --> 00:46:11,266
executive

1958
00:46:11,266 --> 00:46:12,349
director's time, a significant

1959
00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:13,463
portion of, uh, the new

1960
00:46:13,463 --> 00:46:14,206
director of

1961
00:46:14,206 --> 00:46:14,949
engagement and

1962
00:46:14,949 --> 00:46:15,785
regional

1963
00:46:15,785 --> 00:46:16,558
climate

1964
00:46:16,558 --> 00:46:17,734
planning, uh, the time

1965
00:46:17,734 --> 00:46:18,663
for community

1966
00:46:18,663 --> 00:46:20,179
strategies for

1967
00:46:20,179 --> 00:46:21,386
outreach work

1968
00:46:21,386 --> 00:46:22,345
, uh, and, uh, the time of

1969
00:46:22,345 --> 00:46:23,150
our

1970
00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:24,326
client programs team

1971
00:46:24,326 --> 00:46:25,533
to actually work

1972
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:26,937
on projects. Uh,

1973
00:46:26,937 --> 00:46:28,296
some of this might

1974
00:46:28,296 --> 00:46:29,930
fit within the NREL framework.

1975
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:30,890
Uh, that's what, uh, I

1976
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:31,512
just want to

1977
00:46:31,512 --> 00:46:32,360
point out is that this

1978
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,094
means that we'll

1979
00:46:33,094 --> 00:46:34,027
continue to

1980
00:46:34,027 --> 00:46:35,129
provide these, uh, kind of in-kind

1981
00:46:35,129 --> 00:46:36,824
services

1982
00:46:36,852 --> 00:46:38,055
throughout.

1983
00:46:38,055 --> 00:46:39,237
I will say that, uh, the

1984
00:46:39,237 --> 00:46:40,259
climate action plan, there is

1985
00:46:40,259 --> 00:46:40,739
significant

1986
00:46:40,739 --> 00:46:41,697
overlap with

1987
00:46:41,697 --> 00:46:42,528
our own

1988
00:46:42,528 --> 00:46:43,843
strategic plan.

1989
00:46:43,843 --> 00:46:44,743
So we have already done many of these

1990
00:46:44,743 --> 00:46:45,855
activities

1991
00:46:45,855 --> 00:46:47,104
. Uh, I

1992
00:46:47,104 --> 00:46:48,154
think that, uh, the

1993
00:46:48,154 --> 00:46:49,389
formation of committees

1994
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:50,470
and their clerical

1995
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:51,582
services are

1996
00:46:51,582 --> 00:46:52,724
really new work

1997
00:46:52,724 --> 00:46:54,769
here. Um, and then we

1998
00:46:54,769 --> 00:46:55,962
expect that if

1999
00:46:55,962 --> 00:46:57,452
your board approves this

2000
00:46:57,452 --> 00:47:00,932
today, other

2001
00:47:00,932 --> 00:47:02,236
jurisdictions will follow

2002
00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:03,306
suit between October and

2003
00:47:03,306 --> 00:47:04,830
November.

2004
00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:06,048
We had a meeting today, and it

2005
00:47:06,048 --> 00:47:07,010
looks like there will be a few

2006
00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:07,620
meetings

2007
00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:08,517
in

2008
00:47:08,517 --> 00:47:09,544
early October, and the

2009
00:47:09,544 --> 00:47:10,794
city of Eureka

2010
00:47:10,794 --> 00:47:11,692
will probably be in the

2011
00:47:11,692 --> 00:47:12,590
first week of

2012
00:47:12,590 --> 00:47:13,392
November, which

2013
00:47:13,392 --> 00:47:14,354
would mean that in

2014
00:47:14,354 --> 00:47:15,572
November we could

2015
00:47:15,572 --> 00:47:16,727
actually effectively

2016
00:47:16,727 --> 00:47:17,689
implement this

2017
00:47:17,689 --> 00:47:18,587
Memorandum of

2018
00:47:18,587 --> 00:47:19,869
Understanding, which

2019
00:47:19,869 --> 00:47:20,896
would mean that we

2020
00:47:20,896 --> 00:47:22,948
could, you know, have a

2021
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:24,872
regional

2022
00:47:24,904 --> 00:47:26,155
climate committee meeting as early as December,

2023
00:47:26,155 --> 00:47:27,309
probably early

2024
00:47:27,309 --> 00:47:28,431
January, so that we can

2025
00:47:28,431 --> 00:47:29,949
form it. So,

2026
00:47:29,949 --> 00:47:31,114
you know, I'm really happy to

2027
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:32,039
get to this

2028
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:33,312
point. It took a

2029
00:47:33,312 --> 00:47:34,597
long time, and, you know,

2030
00:47:34,597 --> 00:47:35,816
I'm glad to have worked so closely

2031
00:47:35,816 --> 00:47:37,100
with so

2032
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,747
many of

2033
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:40,188
your jurisdictions. So

2034
00:47:40,188 --> 00:47:41,373
, with that in mind, I'm

2035
00:47:41,373 --> 00:47:54,362
opening a question.

2036
00:47:54,362 --> 00:47:56,445
Yeah, well, I know we've

2037
00:47:56,479 --> 00:47:57,790
talked about this quite a bit, so

2038
00:47:57,790 --> 00:47:58,933
I didn't think there would be

2039
00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:00,042
many questions from the

2040
00:48:00,042 --> 00:48:01,088
council. Are there any

2041
00:48:01,088 --> 00:48:03,307
public comments?

2042
00:48:03,307 --> 00:48:04,346
Um,

2043
00:48:04,346 --> 00:48:05,762
two hands raised on the internet. I'm

2044
00:48:05,762 --> 00:48:08,360
going to ask

2045
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,445
Daniel Chandler

2046
00:48:09,445 --> 00:48:10,939
to turn on the sound. You

2047
00:48:10,939 --> 00:48:14,002
have 3 minutes.

2048
00:48:14,002 --> 00:48:15,827
Good afternoon.

2049
00:48:15,827 --> 00:48:17,090
Thank you very much for the opportunity

2050
00:48:17,090 --> 00:48:19,077
to comment. I

2051
00:48:19,077 --> 00:48:20,855
support the "350

2052
00:48:20,855 --> 00:48:22,306
Humble" party on the steering

2053
00:48:22,306 --> 00:48:24,807
committee. And, uh, we've

2054
00:48:24,807 --> 00:48:26,139
all seen a

2055
00:48:26,139 --> 00:48:27,372
lot of

2056
00:48:27,372 --> 00:48:28,205
silence on

2057
00:48:28,205 --> 00:48:31,653
climate issues over the last few years.

2058
00:48:31,653 --> 00:48:32,827
You know, there were

2059
00:48:32,827 --> 00:48:33,875
studies done on

2060
00:48:33,875 --> 00:48:34,701
how many times the

2061
00:48:34,701 --> 00:48:35,717
climate crisis

2062
00:48:35,717 --> 00:48:36,955
is mentioned in newspapers and

2063
00:48:36,955 --> 00:48:38,067
so on, and it just

2064
00:48:38,067 --> 00:48:40,035
fell off the cliff, the same goes for

2065
00:48:40,956 --> 00:48:42,195
Democratic candidates

2066
00:48:42,195 --> 00:48:45,485
. But in

2067
00:48:45,485 --> 00:48:46,833
Humboldt County, we don't have

2068
00:48:46,833 --> 00:48:48,047
that luxury

2069
00:48:48,047 --> 00:48:49,328
because we have a thermometer

2070
00:48:49,328 --> 00:48:50,508
built right into

2071
00:48:50,508 --> 00:48:51,789
Humboldt Bay, and

2072
00:48:51,789 --> 00:48:52,935
it's, uh,

2073
00:48:52,935 --> 00:48:56,645
sea level rise. So I'm very

2074
00:48:56,645 --> 00:48:57,854
happy that we're finally

2075
00:48:57,854 --> 00:48:58,999
moving forward with a

2076
00:48:58,999 --> 00:49:00,241
regional

2077
00:49:00,241 --> 00:49:04,101
climate action plan. We

2078
00:49:04,101 --> 00:49:05,123
certainly, uh,

2079
00:49:05,123 --> 00:49:06,335
support RCA as the

2080
00:49:06,335 --> 00:49:07,471
organizer and

2081
00:49:07,471 --> 00:49:08,342
believe that

2082
00:49:08,342 --> 00:49:09,403
the Memorandum of

2083
00:49:09,403 --> 00:49:10,690
Understanding is a

2084
00:49:10,690 --> 00:49:12,016
viable framework, and we

2085
00:49:12,016 --> 00:49:13,493
would like to congratulate, uh

2086
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:14,743
, RCA for

2087
00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:15,690
taking the

2088
00:49:15,690 --> 00:49:17,091
initiative, really

2089
00:49:17,091 --> 00:49:18,151
doing a great

2090
00:49:18,151 --> 00:49:24,199
job. Thank you very much.

2091
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:25,892
Daniel.

2092
00:49:25,892 --> 00:49:27,455
We appreciate it. Uh, I

2093
00:49:27,455 --> 00:49:28,735
think there's another

2094
00:49:28,735 --> 00:49:30,972
public comment.

2095
00:49:30,972 --> 00:49:32,304
Uh, there's Colin Fisk, and I'm either

2096
00:49:32,304 --> 00:49:33,565
muting

2097
00:49:33,565 --> 00:49:35,006
Colin now or asking him to

2098
00:49:35,006 --> 00:49:36,122
unmute and

2099
00:49:36,122 --> 00:49:37,653
continue. You have 3

2100
00:49:37,653 --> 00:49:38,784
minutes.

2101
00:49:38,784 --> 00:49:40,500
Thank you. This is Colin Fisk from

2102
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:41,491
CRTP, the Coalition for

2103
00:49:41,491 --> 00:49:42,447
Responsible

2104
00:49:42,447 --> 00:49:43,262
Transportation

2105
00:49:43,262 --> 00:49:44,559
Priorities. I just

2106
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:45,351
want to reiterate

2107
00:49:45,351 --> 00:49:46,428
most of what

2108
00:49:46,428 --> 00:49:47,566
Dan said. Hmm, as

2109
00:49:47,566 --> 00:49:48,349
you all know, it

2110
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:49,432
took a long

2111
00:49:49,432 --> 00:49:50,424
time to get to

2112
00:49:50,424 --> 00:49:51,661
this point. Hmm, I

2113
00:49:51,661 --> 00:49:53,039
really appreciate the efforts of

2114
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:54,102
our CEA, hmm, and the

2115
00:49:54,102 --> 00:49:55,047
leadership

2116
00:49:55,047 --> 00:49:56,428
put in here. I

2117
00:49:56,428 --> 00:49:57,684
think the Memorandum

2118
00:49:57,684 --> 00:49:58,908
of Understanding

2119
00:49:58,908 --> 00:50:00,230
is, um, a very smart,

2120
00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:01,387
um, basis for moving

2121
00:50:01,387 --> 00:50:02,710
forward, and, um, I'm just

2122
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:03,504
excited to start

2123
00:50:03,504 --> 00:50:04,596
moving forward.

2124
00:50:04,596 --> 00:50:05,853
No matter

2125
00:50:05,853 --> 00:50:06,761
how

2126
00:50:06,761 --> 00:50:07,878
politics change, you know,

2127
00:50:07,878 --> 00:50:09,100
every day and every year, the

2128
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,462
climate crisis, ahem,

2129
00:50:10,462 --> 00:50:11,126
continues to

2130
00:50:11,126 --> 00:50:12,825
intensify. So, um, I

2131
00:50:12,825 --> 00:50:14,327
look forward to,

2132
00:50:14,327 --> 00:50:15,236
um, real

2133
00:50:15,236 --> 00:50:16,698
coordinated action,

2134
00:50:16,698 --> 00:50:21,390
um, on the ground. Thank you.

2135
00:50:21,390 --> 00:50:22,377
These are all public

2136
00:50:22,377 --> 00:50:23,365
comments, ahem, with

2137
00:50:23,365 --> 00:50:24,455
hands up

2138
00:50:24,455 --> 00:50:24,998
online.

2139
00:50:24,998 --> 00:50:26,676
Thank you, Lori. Thank you,

2140
00:50:26,676 --> 00:50:28,005
Colin. Are there any more

2141
00:50:28,005 --> 00:50:28,965
discussions on the board of

2142
00:50:28,965 --> 00:50:30,007
directors before

2143
00:50:30,007 --> 00:50:34,069
we vote? Would

2144
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:34,978
any

2145
00:50:34,978 --> 00:50:35,604
board members like to

2146
00:50:35,604 --> 00:50:36,570
make a

2147
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:37,423
motion to

2148
00:50:37,423 --> 00:50:38,133
approve

2149
00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:38,986
a memorandum of

2150
00:50:38,986 --> 00:50:39,896
understanding

2151
00:50:39,896 --> 00:50:41,004
establishing RCAEA as the

2152
00:50:41,004 --> 00:50:41,971
host agency

2153
00:50:41,971 --> 00:50:42,937
for the regional

2154
00:50:42,937 --> 00:50:43,648
climate

2155
00:50:43,648 --> 00:50:45,154
committee and the position of

2156
00:50:45,183 --> 00:50:46,320
climate program manager

2157
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,173
to coordinate the

2158
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:47,883
implementation of the

2159
00:50:47,883 --> 00:50:48,963
regional

2160
00:50:48,963 --> 00:50:51,292
climate action plan?

2161
00:50:51,292 --> 00:50:52,183
I would suggest

2162
00:50:52,183 --> 00:50:53,438
adopting the Memorandum

2163
00:50:53,438 --> 00:50:54,725
of Understanding,

2164
00:50:54,725 --> 00:50:55,749
and also echo

2165
00:50:55,749 --> 00:50:56,673
some of the public

2166
00:50:56,673 --> 00:50:57,895
comments that

2167
00:50:57,895 --> 00:50:59,084
this is long overdue, and,

2168
00:50:59,084 --> 00:51:00,206
you know, it's a really

2169
00:51:00,206 --> 00:51:01,395
exciting example of

2170
00:51:01,395 --> 00:51:02,220
regional

2171
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:03,442
coordination of efforts,

2172
00:51:03,442 --> 00:51:04,565
which I think

2173
00:51:04,565 --> 00:51:05,852
Humboldt County really needs to

2174
00:51:05,852 --> 00:51:07,222
do. We have a lot of

2175
00:51:07,222 --> 00:51:08,080
small cities and

2176
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,159
small jurisdictions

2177
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:09,878
, so, you know,

2178
00:51:09,878 --> 00:51:10,626
coming together to

2179
00:51:10,626 --> 00:51:11,566
solve big

2180
00:51:11,566 --> 00:51:12,480
problems is definitely the

2181
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,503
best way to

2182
00:51:13,503 --> 00:51:14,818
do it. So yes, I

2183
00:51:14,818 --> 00:51:19,560
suggest.

2184
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,713
Do we have a second?

2185
00:51:22,713 --> 00:51:25,019
I support this.

2186
00:51:25,019 --> 00:51:26,744
Thank you. We can, uh,

2187
00:51:26,744 --> 00:51:28,236
continue with a show of

2188
00:51:28,236 --> 00:51:29,741
hands. Uh, everyone

2189
00:51:29,741 --> 00:51:31,217
voting, please

2190
00:51:31,217 --> 00:51:35,470
raise your hands.

2191
00:51:35,470 --> 00:51:36,318
Unanimously.

2192
00:51:36,318 --> 00:51:37,773
The proposal was accepted.

2193
00:51:37,773 --> 00:51:44,828
Thank you, Lori. Next,

2194
00:51:44,828 --> 00:51:46,185
we have approval of the

2195
00:51:46,185 --> 00:51:47,355
fifth, fifth

2196
00:51:47,355 --> 00:51:49,180
amendment to the

2197
00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:50,677
lease agreement between GHD 10 and

2198
00:51:50,677 --> 00:51:52,502
landlord RCEA at 718

2199
00:51:52,502 --> 00:51:54,434
3rd Street in Eureka.

2200
00:51:54,434 --> 00:51:55,654
Speaker, Eileen

2201
00:51:55,654 --> 00:51:57,637
Burbeck. Uh

2202
00:51:57,637 --> 00:51:59,914
, yes, thank you. Uh,

2203
00:51:59,914 --> 00:52:02,207
so in June 2026,

2204
00:52:02,207 --> 00:52:04,328
we purchased the building

2205
00:52:04,328 --> 00:52:06,621
at 718 and 720 3rd

2206
00:52:06,621 --> 00:52:10,540
Street. Hmm, while we were

2207
00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:11,828
negotiating

2208
00:52:11,828 --> 00:52:12,752
the sale, we had already

2209
00:52:12,752 --> 00:52:13,974
started negotiations with

2210
00:52:13,974 --> 00:52:14,865
the tenant to

2211
00:52:14,865 --> 00:52:15,988
determine if

2212
00:52:15,988 --> 00:52:17,275
he could reduce the

2213
00:52:17,275 --> 00:52:23,996
space he was occupying. The empty warehouse

2214
00:52:23,996 --> 00:52:25,019
that RCA plans to

2215
00:52:25,019 --> 00:52:26,151
rebuild is

2216
00:52:26,151 --> 00:52:27,028
approximately 7,000

2217
00:52:27,028 --> 00:52:28,417
square feet, which is

2218
00:52:28,417 --> 00:52:29,768
slightly less than we

2219
00:52:29,768 --> 00:52:31,120
need for our

2220
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,897
current staff.

2221
00:52:36,897 --> 00:52:38,080
So we, um, came to an agreement

2222
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,521
with the tenant that

2223
00:52:39,521 --> 00:52:40,889
he would give up

2224
00:52:40,889 --> 00:52:41,777
about 4,000

2225
00:52:41,777 --> 00:52:42,960
square feet of

2226
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:49,844
his finished space.

2227
00:52:49,844 --> 00:52:50,695
In exchange for this

2228
00:52:50,695 --> 00:52:51,830
reduction in their

2229
00:52:51,830 --> 00:52:52,894
space, RCA will provide

2230
00:52:52,894 --> 00:52:54,242
the tenant with an incentive

2231
00:52:54,242 --> 00:52:55,625
bonus of

2232
00:52:55,625 --> 00:52:56,654
300,000, which covers

2233
00:52:56,654 --> 00:52:57,364
the cost of

2234
00:52:57,364 --> 00:52:58,570
reducing their

2235
00:52:58,570 --> 00:52:59,953
space and moving

2236
00:52:59,953 --> 00:53:05,801
their people upstairs. RCA

2237
00:53:05,801 --> 00:53:10,450
looked at the cost of,

2238
00:53:10,450 --> 00:53:11,328
um, rebuilding the

2239
00:53:11,328 --> 00:53:12,698
equivalent area,

2240
00:53:12,698 --> 00:53:13,927
um, and the only way

2241
00:53:13,927 --> 00:53:14,876
to do that is to

2242
00:53:14,876 --> 00:53:16,281
partially build a

2243
00:53:16,281 --> 00:53:19,872
second floor. The

2244
00:53:19,872 --> 00:53:21,079
initial

2245
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:22,193
construction costs we

2246
00:53:22,193 --> 00:53:23,153
received were

2247
00:53:23,153 --> 00:53:23,896
just over a

2248
00:53:23,896 --> 00:53:27,554
million dollars. Um,

2249
00:53:27,554 --> 00:53:28,216
you know, we're

2250
00:53:28,216 --> 00:53:29,574
looking at the cost of

2251
00:53:29,574 --> 00:53:30,933
, uh, separating, uh

2252
00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:32,082
, the

2253
00:53:32,082 --> 00:53:33,440
tenant space from our

2254
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,878
space, and the

2255
00:53:35,913 --> 00:53:37,236
tenant improvement budget still provides a

2256
00:53:37,236 --> 00:53:38,560
significant savings, uh,

2257
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,326
compared to

2258
00:53:39,326 --> 00:53:40,196
building a

2259
00:53:40,196 --> 00:53:41,450
partial second

2260
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:44,820
floor. Uh, in this

2261
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:46,538
amendment to the

2262
00:53:46,538 --> 00:53:47,683
lease, RCA, uh,

2263
00:53:47,683 --> 00:53:49,798
agrees or

2264
00:53:49,842 --> 00:53:51,207
agrees in part that

2265
00:53:51,207 --> 00:53:52,925
the parties agree

2266
00:53:52,925 --> 00:53:54,203
, uh, that the tenant

2267
00:53:54,203 --> 00:53:55,933
will vacate, uh, 4,341 sq.

2268
00:53:55,933 --> 00:53:58,559
foot. Uh, RCA is re-measuring,

2269
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,410
uh, its space, uh,

2270
00:54:00,410 --> 00:54:04,003
for accuracy. Uh, and

2271
00:54:04,003 --> 00:54:05,388
then RCA agrees

2272
00:54:05,388 --> 00:54:06,635
with the landlord, uh,

2273
00:54:06,635 --> 00:54:07,813
that we will be

2274
00:54:07,813 --> 00:54:09,129
responsible for

2275
00:54:09,129 --> 00:54:15,035
the costs and expenses. Uh

2276
00:54:15,035 --> 00:54:16,143
, this includes, uh,

2277
00:54:16,143 --> 00:54:17,321
building a wall

2278
00:54:17,321 --> 00:54:18,498
to separate the

2279
00:54:18,498 --> 00:54:19,364
space, uh,

2280
00:54:19,364 --> 00:54:20,714
building a door, uh

2281
00:54:20,714 --> 00:54:21,822
, to access the

2282
00:54:21,822 --> 00:54:23,138
shared restroom, uh

2283
00:54:23,138 --> 00:54:24,454
, building a new

2284
00:54:24,454 --> 00:54:25,700
door so the tenant

2285
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:26,947
can access their

2286
00:54:26,947 --> 00:54:28,194
existing server

2287
00:54:28,194 --> 00:54:28,921
room, and

2288
00:54:28,921 --> 00:54:30,236
establishing a method for

2289
00:54:30,236 --> 00:54:30,964
dividing

2290
00:54:30,964 --> 00:54:32,314
utilities, uh

2291
00:54:32,314 --> 00:54:37,701
, between the parties. Uh,

2292
00:54:37,701 --> 00:54:38,453
they also

2293
00:54:38,453 --> 00:54:39,920
agreed to give RCA,

2294
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,124
uh, a first-mover

2295
00:54:41,124 --> 00:54:42,365
advantage to refuse to

2296
00:54:42,365 --> 00:54:43,682
keep any furniture

2297
00:54:43,682 --> 00:54:44,811
left on the, uh,

2298
00:54:44,811 --> 00:54:48,205
premises. Uh, they,

2299
00:54:48,205 --> 00:54:49,782
the tenant, are actually, uh

2300
00:54:49,782 --> 00:54:51,076
, doing a complete

2301
00:54:51,076 --> 00:54:54,247
renovation. Um, and so we're

2302
00:54:54,247 --> 00:54:55,533
looking at ways that

2303
00:54:55,533 --> 00:54:56,714
maybe we can

2304
00:54:56,714 --> 00:54:58,277
save on

2305
00:54:58,312 --> 00:54:59,701
construction costs by

2306
00:54:59,736 --> 00:55:01,021
reusing, uh,

2307
00:55:01,021 --> 00:55:02,376
a lot of the furniture that they

2308
00:55:02,376 --> 00:55:03,001
don't

2309
00:55:03,001 --> 00:55:05,665
need anymore. Um, and

2310
00:55:05,665 --> 00:55:06,648
again,

2311
00:55:06,648 --> 00:55:09,065
by setting this, uh,

2312
00:55:09,105 --> 00:55:10,621
tenant allowance of

2313
00:55:10,621 --> 00:55:18,273
300,000.

2314
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:19,680
Thank you very much. Do you have any

2315
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,602
questions for the board of

2316
00:55:20,602 --> 00:55:24,581
directors?

2317
00:55:24,581 --> 00:55:25,222
Could

2318
00:55:25,222 --> 00:55:26,233
you tell us a little

2319
00:55:26,233 --> 00:55:27,216
more about how you

2320
00:55:27,216 --> 00:55:28,228
came up with that figure

2321
00:55:28,228 --> 00:55:29,360
for the allowance? Because it

2322
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,167
seems to me that you

2323
00:55:30,167 --> 00:55:30,973
need a lot of

2324
00:55:30,973 --> 00:55:32,022
money, but I don't know

2325
00:55:32,022 --> 00:55:32,990
if that's normal for

2326
00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:33,609
commercial

2327
00:55:33,609 --> 00:55:34,657
real estate and

2328
00:55:34,657 --> 00:55:35,626
leases like that, and

2329
00:55:35,626 --> 00:55:36,647
what is normal, and how

2330
00:55:36,647 --> 00:55:37,293
those

2331
00:55:37,293 --> 00:55:39,333
negotiations went.

2332
00:55:39,333 --> 00:55:40,434
Yes, we looked at

2333
00:55:40,434 --> 00:55:41,439
several ways,

2334
00:55:41,439 --> 00:55:42,637
such as cost

2335
00:55:42,637 --> 00:55:44,315
per square foot. Um,

2336
00:55:44,315 --> 00:55:45,398
but we looked at

2337
00:55:45,398 --> 00:55:46,219
some of their

2338
00:55:46,219 --> 00:55:47,532
key features that

2339
00:55:47,532 --> 00:55:48,846
we were moving, they were

2340
00:55:48,846 --> 00:55:50,061
moving, and what they

2341
00:55:50,061 --> 00:55:50,914
needed to

2342
00:55:50,914 --> 00:55:52,195
do to remove

2343
00:55:52,195 --> 00:55:53,082
, and we got a

2344
00:55:53,082 --> 00:55:54,395
construction estimate

2345
00:55:54,395 --> 00:55:57,207
for those costs. And that

2346
00:55:57,207 --> 00:55:58,372
was the amount we

2347
00:55:58,372 --> 00:56:05,665
received. Thank you.

2348
00:56:05,665 --> 00:56:06,576
These are one-time

2349
00:56:06,576 --> 00:56:09,143
costs, right?

2350
00:56:09,143 --> 00:56:12,043
Yes, that's right. Are there

2351
00:56:12,043 --> 00:56:19,466
any more questions?

2352
00:56:19,466 --> 00:56:20,581
I'll just add our

2353
00:56:20,581 --> 00:56:21,820
hope for taking control of this

2354
00:56:21,820 --> 00:56:22,564
space

2355
00:56:22,564 --> 00:56:25,350
. We don't

2356
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:26,586
know, it all depends

2357
00:56:26,586 --> 00:56:27,659
on how the design turns out

2358
00:56:27,659 --> 00:56:28,667
, and that will be the

2359
00:56:28,667 --> 00:56:29,806
next point

2360
00:56:29,806 --> 00:56:30,847
you hear in the

2361
00:56:30,847 --> 00:56:34,929
tender. But there is a

2362
00:56:34,929 --> 00:56:35,622
potential

2363
00:56:35,622 --> 00:56:36,678
opportunity for RCA

2364
00:56:36,678 --> 00:56:37,339
to occupy this

2365
00:56:37,339 --> 00:56:38,659
space once

2366
00:56:38,659 --> 00:56:39,947
we separate from

2367
00:56:39,947 --> 00:56:41,003
the tenant, which could

2368
00:56:41,003 --> 00:56:42,291
result in greater

2369
00:56:42,291 --> 00:56:43,380
savings on our

2370
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:48,801
rent. So

2371
00:56:48,801 --> 00:56:50,178
we looked at, um, all the

2372
00:56:50,178 --> 00:56:51,281
ways to save

2373
00:56:51,281 --> 00:56:52,383
money when we were

2374
00:56:52,383 --> 00:56:55,035
negotiating this

2375
00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:58,797
lease amendment.

2376
00:56:58,797 --> 00:56:59,766
No, and it also makes

2377
00:56:59,766 --> 00:57:00,978
sense because, I

2378
00:57:00,978 --> 00:57:01,856
mean, yeah, it's

2379
00:57:01,856 --> 00:57:03,038
right

2380
00:57:03,038 --> 00:57:04,159
diagonally across from our

2381
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:05,250
existing building, and

2382
00:57:05,250 --> 00:57:06,462
the opportunity to save

2383
00:57:06,462 --> 00:57:07,552
on rental space from

2384
00:57:07,552 --> 00:57:08,491
this other, um,

2385
00:57:08,491 --> 00:57:09,400
space would be

2386
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,370
great, so it makes

2387
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:13,022
sense.

2388
00:57:13,022 --> 00:57:14,676
Thank you, Eileen. I know

2389
00:57:14,676 --> 00:57:16,024
this was nuanced

2390
00:57:16,024 --> 00:57:17,102
and a long process,

2391
00:57:17,102 --> 00:57:18,147
so you did a

2392
00:57:18,147 --> 00:57:19,258
great job and I

2393
00:57:19,258 --> 00:57:21,128
appreciate that. Uh, are there

2394
00:57:21,128 --> 00:57:22,211
any public

2395
00:57:22,211 --> 00:57:23,488
comments on this

2396
00:57:23,488 --> 00:57:26,010
? There

2397
00:57:26,045 --> 00:57:29,543
were no hands raised online. Would

2398
00:57:29,543 --> 00:57:30,532
any

2399
00:57:30,532 --> 00:57:31,522
board member like to make a

2400
00:57:31,522 --> 00:57:32,388
motion to

2401
00:57:32,388 --> 00:57:33,532
approve the fifth

2402
00:57:33,532 --> 00:57:34,738
amendment to the

2403
00:57:34,738 --> 00:57:35,851
commercial lease agreement

2404
00:57:35,851 --> 00:57:36,841
between the

2405
00:57:36,841 --> 00:57:37,954
Redwood

2406
00:57:37,954 --> 00:57:39,068
Coast Energy Authority, landlord,

2407
00:57:39,068 --> 00:57:39,934
and GHD

2408
00:57:39,934 --> 00:57:40,985
Incorporated, tenant,

2409
00:57:40,985 --> 00:57:43,026
for the building at

2410
00:57:43,057 --> 00:57:44,139
718 Third Street, and authorize the

2411
00:57:44,139 --> 00:57:44,851
Executive

2412
00:57:44,851 --> 00:57:46,026
Director to sign

2413
00:57:46,026 --> 00:57:47,016
all documents

2414
00:57:47,016 --> 00:57:48,067
pending review by

2415
00:57:48,067 --> 00:57:52,516
RCEA legal counsel?

2416
00:57:52,516 --> 00:57:53,298
I propose

2417
00:57:53,298 --> 00:57:54,549
the motion as

2418
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:58,572
read by the chairman.

2419
00:57:58,572 --> 00:58:01,353
I will support.

2420
00:58:01,353 --> 00:58:02,660
Thank you, and with a show of

2421
00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:06,829
hands, let's start with the eyes.

2422
00:58:07,469 --> 00:58:13,635
The proposal was unanimously accepted. The

2423
00:58:13,635 --> 00:58:14,362
next item

2424
00:58:14,362 --> 00:58:14,790
of consideration is the

2425
00:58:14,790 --> 00:58:15,368
recommended

2426
00:58:15,368 --> 00:58:16,139
procurement of design and

2427
00:58:16,139 --> 00:58:16,866
construction work

2428
00:58:16,866 --> 00:58:17,594
for the

2429
00:58:17,594 --> 00:58:18,257
office renovation at

2430
00:58:18,257 --> 00:58:18,964
718 Third Street and the

2431
00:58:18,964 --> 00:58:22,939
return to Eileen.

2432
00:58:22,939 --> 00:58:24,016
I'm going to ask

2433
00:58:24,016 --> 00:58:24,734
Mike Avcolli

2434
00:58:24,734 --> 00:58:25,507
to present this

2435
00:58:25,507 --> 00:58:27,516
question. Uh,

2436
00:58:27,516 --> 00:58:28,802
hello. My name is

2437
00:58:28,802 --> 00:58:30,777
Mike Avcolli. I'm, uh,

2438
00:58:32,137 --> 00:58:33,218
RCEA's capital asset manager on the operations

2439
00:58:33,218 --> 00:58:34,492
team. And, uh, thank you

2440
00:58:34,492 --> 00:58:35,426
for letting me

2441
00:58:35,426 --> 00:58:36,332
introduce myself

2442
00:58:36,332 --> 00:58:37,139
today. Uh,

2443
00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:38,361
let's see if

2444
00:58:38,361 --> 00:58:39,359
I can get my

2445
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:40,685
technology up and running. So, we're

2446
00:58:40,685 --> 00:58:42,007
writing to you to,

2447
00:58:42,007 --> 00:58:43,255
uh, ask

2448
00:58:43,255 --> 00:58:44,577
the board to approve the

2449
00:58:44,577 --> 00:58:46,303
use of a

2450
00:58:46,339 --> 00:58:48,946
design-build procurement methodology

2451
00:58:48,983 --> 00:58:50,415
for the renovation and

2452
00:58:50,415 --> 00:58:51,700
renovation at

2453
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,058
718 Third Street. Uh,

2454
00:58:53,058 --> 00:58:54,233
you know what star

2455
00:58:54,233 --> 00:58:55,188
indicates a new

2456
00:58:55,188 --> 00:58:56,583
building, uh, let's

2457
00:58:56,583 --> 00:58:58,051
see if

2458
00:58:58,051 --> 00:58:59,547
the sign works. Does the pointer

2459
00:58:59,547 --> 00:59:01,732
work? My

2460
00:59:01,732 --> 00:59:03,117
pointer is not working.

2461
00:59:03,117 --> 00:59:06,005
Damn it. Good.

2462
00:59:06,005 --> 00:59:07,101
We are

2463
00:59:07,101 --> 00:59:08,365
diagonally across the corner

2464
00:59:08,365 --> 00:59:09,628
from the new building on the

2465
00:59:09,628 --> 00:59:11,359
map. And I'm a little

2466
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:12,534
disappointed that I can't

2467
00:59:12,534 --> 00:59:13,318
get the

2468
00:59:13,318 --> 00:59:14,492
laser pointer

2469
00:59:14,492 --> 00:59:17,153
to work. Is that true?

2470
00:59:17,153 --> 00:59:18,457
Maybe...Here it is.

2471
00:59:18,457 --> 00:59:19,792
Sorry. I just couldn't

2472
00:59:19,792 --> 00:59:20,807
see her.

2473
00:59:20,807 --> 00:59:21,896
Good. Here is the new

2474
00:59:21,896 --> 00:59:23,218
building. This is...This is where

2475
00:59:23,218 --> 00:59:24,589
we are now,

2476
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:25,721
some of us...So the

2477
00:59:25,721 --> 00:59:26,955
existing conditions in this

2478
00:59:26,955 --> 00:59:28,292
building are such that it

2479
00:59:28,292 --> 00:59:29,595
has a total area of

2480
00:59:29,595 --> 00:59:31,348
23,700 square feet.

2481
00:59:31,348 --> 00:59:32,625
We have an additional 7,000,

2482
00:59:32,625 --> 00:59:33,684
a little over 7,000

2483
00:59:33,684 --> 00:59:34,852
square feet of

2484
00:59:34,852 --> 00:59:36,275
warehouse space

2485
00:59:36,275 --> 00:59:37,504
. The building was

2486
00:59:37,504 --> 00:59:39,280
built in 1950,

2487
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,100
and the last

2488
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:41,876
renovation was, uh

2489
00:59:41,876 --> 00:59:43,697
, the GHD facility, uh,

2490
00:59:43,697 --> 00:59:44,870
in 2010. And we

2491
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:45,826
need to do

2492
00:59:45,826 --> 00:59:46,662
some

2493
00:59:46,662 --> 00:59:48,051
repairs. So, as

2494
00:59:48,051 --> 00:59:49,159
Eileen just described, it's

2495
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:50,440
the landlord's job to

2496
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,721
separate, um, what

2497
00:59:51,721 --> 00:59:52,933
we'll soon

2498
00:59:52,933 --> 00:59:53,798
call the

2499
00:59:53,798 --> 00:59:54,595
abandoned

2500
00:59:54,595 --> 00:59:55,910
space, part of the,

2501
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:57,053
um, space that

2502
00:59:57,053 --> 00:59:58,346
GHD currently occupies. We

2503
00:59:58,346 --> 00:59:59,113
need to, um,

2504
00:59:59,113 --> 01:00:00,199
create a shared

2505
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:01,253
entrance to the shared

2506
01:00:01,253 --> 01:00:02,499
bathroom, and we

2507
01:00:02,499 --> 01:00:03,650
need to isolate

2508
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:04,480
their server

2509
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,567
room so that their

2510
01:00:05,567 --> 01:00:06,717
staff can

2511
01:00:06,717 --> 01:00:07,963
access it and, um, so that our

2512
01:00:07,963 --> 01:00:08,985
staff doesn't

2513
01:00:08,985 --> 01:00:10,103
go into their

2514
01:00:10,103 --> 01:00:11,410
server room. Hmm

2515
01:00:11,410 --> 01:00:12,529
, we also need to

2516
01:00:12,529 --> 01:00:13,557
renovate this

2517
01:00:13,557 --> 01:00:14,654
warehouse. You'll see on the

2518
01:00:14,654 --> 01:00:15,639
next slide, it's

2519
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:16,328
just a big

2520
01:00:16,328 --> 01:00:17,190
open space,

2521
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:17,830
just a big

2522
01:00:17,830 --> 01:00:18,801
box. So, we

2523
01:00:18,801 --> 01:00:19,805
need to create a

2524
01:00:19,805 --> 01:00:20,632
handicapped entrance

2525
01:00:20,632 --> 01:00:22,699
,

2526
01:00:22,729 --> 01:00:23,674
handicapped bathrooms, um,

2527
01:00:23,674 --> 01:00:24,589
office space,

2528
01:00:24,589 --> 01:00:25,682
public

2529
01:00:25,682 --> 01:00:26,568
meeting space, and we

2530
01:00:26,568 --> 01:00:27,276
need to, um,

2531
01:00:27,276 --> 01:00:28,162
design and

2532
01:00:28,162 --> 01:00:29,107
integrate new

2533
01:00:29,107 --> 01:00:29,698
mechanical,

2534
01:00:29,698 --> 01:00:30,465
electrical, and

2535
01:00:30,465 --> 01:00:31,588
plumbing systems

2536
01:00:31,588 --> 01:00:32,532
into the ones that exist in

2537
01:00:32,532 --> 01:00:33,596
this denied

2538
01:00:33,596 --> 01:00:35,330
space. And so, this

2539
01:00:35,330 --> 01:00:36,659
big box here...

2540
01:00:36,659 --> 01:00:39,101
God, my pointer skills are

2541
01:00:39,137 --> 01:00:40,814
bad. This is a large

2542
01:00:40,814 --> 01:00:42,299
open box. This is a

2543
01:00:42,299 --> 01:00:43,522
denied space

2544
01:00:43,522 --> 01:00:45,244
down here. And so

2545
01:00:45,244 --> 01:00:46,535
when we create a

2546
01:00:46,535 --> 01:00:47,794
wall and a door here, right now

2547
01:00:47,794 --> 01:00:49,505
they're just open.

2548
01:00:49,505 --> 01:00:50,541
So, this wall and

2549
01:00:50,541 --> 01:00:51,545
door will allow

2550
01:00:51,545 --> 01:00:52,314
GHD staff

2551
01:00:52,314 --> 01:00:53,117
to access the

2552
01:00:53,117 --> 01:00:54,670
shared restrooms. And

2553
01:00:54,670 --> 01:00:55,827
this is their server

2554
01:00:55,827 --> 01:00:57,068
room. We need to

2555
01:00:57,068 --> 01:00:58,035
install a door here

2556
01:00:58,035 --> 01:00:58,929
that will also allow

2557
01:00:58,929 --> 01:00:59,848
them access, and then we

2558
01:00:59,848 --> 01:01:00,670
block that

2559
01:01:00,670 --> 01:01:01,443
door with a wall so that

2560
01:01:01,443 --> 01:01:02,314
our employees

2561
01:01:02,314 --> 01:01:03,281
can't get into

2562
01:01:03,281 --> 01:01:04,006
their server

2563
01:01:04,006 --> 01:01:05,107
room. Um, this is very

2564
01:01:05,107 --> 01:01:06,225
briefly about

2565
01:01:06,225 --> 01:01:07,439
the landlord's work that we

2566
01:01:07,439 --> 01:01:09,283
need to do. And,

2567
01:01:09,283 --> 01:01:10,607
as you can see, the

2568
01:01:10,607 --> 01:01:11,653
warehouse is very

2569
01:01:11,653 --> 01:01:12,454
simply

2570
01:01:12,454 --> 01:01:13,896
equipped. There are

2571
01:01:13,896 --> 01:01:15,074
a few restrooms there, but

2572
01:01:15,074 --> 01:01:15,819
we need to

2573
01:01:15,819 --> 01:01:16,687
convert that

2574
01:01:16,687 --> 01:01:18,920
loading dock into an

2575
01:01:18,951 --> 01:01:19,847
ADA-compliant ramp. This

2576
01:01:19,847 --> 01:01:20,789
space is much

2577
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:21,908
higher than this one, so it

2578
01:01:21,908 --> 01:01:23,027
will be a large ramp

2579
01:01:23,027 --> 01:01:24,057
to make it

2580
01:01:24,057 --> 01:01:25,104
ADA compliant. And then

2581
01:01:25,104 --> 01:01:26,100
all this construction

2582
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:27,095
that involves, uh,

2583
01:01:27,095 --> 01:01:28,008
cubicles, common

2584
01:01:28,008 --> 01:01:28,866
space, office

2585
01:01:28,866 --> 01:01:29,502
space, uh,

2586
01:01:29,502 --> 01:01:30,525
hopefully, a place

2587
01:01:30,525 --> 01:01:31,494
for this

2588
01:01:31,494 --> 01:01:32,987
council to meet, a public

2589
01:01:33,015 --> 01:01:34,274
meeting space. Um, all this

2590
01:01:34,274 --> 01:01:35,330
construction has to

2591
01:01:35,330 --> 01:01:36,709
happen. And so we

2592
01:01:36,709 --> 01:01:38,074
are reaching out, uh, to

2593
01:01:38,074 --> 01:01:38,936
invite this

2594
01:01:38,936 --> 01:01:40,220
purchase. And we, our

2595
01:01:40,220 --> 01:01:42,098
staff, recommend a

2596
01:01:42,130 --> 01:01:43,069
design and

2597
01:01:43,069 --> 01:01:44,610
construction methodology.

2598
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,542
Design and

2599
01:01:45,542 --> 01:01:47,677
build methodology is, uh, a

2600
01:01:47,707 --> 01:01:48,459
project delivery process that

2601
01:01:48,459 --> 01:01:49,481
uses a single

2602
01:01:49,481 --> 01:01:50,594
organization, known

2603
01:01:50,594 --> 01:01:51,436
as a

2604
01:01:51,436 --> 01:01:52,338
design and

2605
01:01:52,338 --> 01:01:53,270
build organization, that is

2606
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:54,202
responsible for both

2607
01:01:54,202 --> 01:01:55,284
design and

2608
01:01:55,284 --> 01:01:56,216
construction under a

2609
01:01:56,216 --> 01:01:56,998
single

2610
01:01:56,998 --> 01:01:58,652
contract. It is usually

2611
01:01:58,652 --> 01:02:00,835
contrasted with a

2612
01:02:00,866 --> 01:02:01,770
construction project application, which

2613
01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:04,231
sounds very similar. In a

2614
01:02:04,264 --> 01:02:05,176
construction project application, you

2615
01:02:05,176 --> 01:02:06,348
enter into one, uh,

2616
01:02:06,348 --> 01:02:07,358
one

2617
01:02:07,358 --> 01:02:08,269
design contract with

2618
01:02:08,269 --> 01:02:09,311
an architect or

2619
01:02:09,311 --> 01:02:10,611
engineering firm. And

2620
01:02:10,611 --> 01:02:11,107
then you

2621
01:02:11,107 --> 01:02:12,222
use that

2622
01:02:12,222 --> 01:02:13,089
project, uh, to

2623
01:02:13,089 --> 01:02:14,049
participate in a second

2624
01:02:14,049 --> 01:02:15,288
procurement process, and

2625
01:02:15,288 --> 01:02:16,248
you hire another

2626
01:02:16,248 --> 01:02:17,177
organization to do the

2627
01:02:17,177 --> 01:02:18,125
construction. We

2628
01:02:18,125 --> 01:02:19,157
would like to do all of

2629
01:02:19,157 --> 01:02:20,080
this under one

2630
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,085
contract, known

2631
01:02:21,085 --> 01:02:22,035
as design and

2632
01:02:22,035 --> 01:02:23,155
build. So why

2633
01:02:23,155 --> 01:02:23,804
should we

2634
01:02:23,804 --> 01:02:24,680
use

2635
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,527
design and

2636
01:02:25,527 --> 01:02:26,598
construction? Why does the

2637
01:02:26,598 --> 01:02:27,957
staff recommend

2638
01:02:27,957 --> 01:02:29,114
this? Again, this

2639
01:02:29,114 --> 01:02:30,053
single procurement,

2640
01:02:30,053 --> 01:02:31,264
single process, single

2641
01:02:31,264 --> 01:02:31,991
contract to

2642
01:02:31,991 --> 01:02:33,142
manage, uh, can

2643
01:02:33,142 --> 01:02:33,929
reduce

2644
01:02:33,929 --> 01:02:36,652
staff time. I'll say right

2645
01:02:36,652 --> 01:02:37,624
away that there is no

2646
01:02:37,624 --> 01:02:38,759
magic pill

2647
01:02:38,759 --> 01:02:39,860
that would simplify and

2648
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:40,476
facilitate

2649
01:02:40,476 --> 01:02:41,619
construction. You can

2650
01:02:41,619 --> 01:02:42,459
use

2651
01:02:42,459 --> 01:02:43,488
each process, and you

2652
01:02:43,488 --> 01:02:44,490
may have difficult

2653
01:02:44,490 --> 01:02:45,410
times or you may

2654
01:02:45,410 --> 01:02:46,385
get an excellent

2655
01:02:46,385 --> 01:02:47,377
result. But these are

2656
01:02:47,377 --> 01:02:48,541
some of the benefits

2657
01:02:48,541 --> 01:02:49,596
we see. So, this

2658
01:02:49,596 --> 01:02:50,423
allows you to evaluate the

2659
01:02:50,423 --> 01:02:50,863
best

2660
01:02:50,863 --> 01:02:51,846
value for money

2661
01:02:51,846 --> 01:02:52,765
. Some of

2662
01:02:52,765 --> 01:02:53,726
my examples of where

2663
01:02:53,726 --> 01:02:54,509
you can choose

2664
01:02:54,509 --> 01:02:54,939
the best

2665
01:02:54,939 --> 01:02:55,899
value for

2666
01:02:55,899 --> 01:02:56,733
money over

2667
01:02:56,733 --> 01:02:57,617
the low, lowest

2668
01:02:57,617 --> 01:02:58,780
bid in

2669
01:02:58,805 --> 01:02:59,689
public works construction

2670
01:02:59,689 --> 01:03:00,700
may be related

2671
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:01,599
to the schedule. If

2672
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:02,872
the company with the lowest

2673
01:03:02,872 --> 01:03:04,178
bid is the one that

2674
01:03:04,178 --> 01:03:04,635
cannot

2675
01:03:04,635 --> 01:03:05,940
meet your

2676
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:06,919
schedule, cannot

2677
01:03:06,919 --> 01:03:07,768
start or

2678
01:03:07,768 --> 01:03:08,388
complete

2679
01:03:08,388 --> 01:03:09,563
construction as

2680
01:03:09,563 --> 01:03:10,542
you would like. Um,

2681
01:03:10,542 --> 01:03:11,802
expertise, the company

2682
01:03:11,802 --> 01:03:12,512
with the lowest

2683
01:03:12,512 --> 01:03:13,546
bid could

2684
01:03:13,546 --> 01:03:14,838
be a new company

2685
01:03:14,838 --> 01:03:16,097
that has been in business for 1 year, and

2686
01:03:16,097 --> 01:03:17,357
um, there could be other

2687
01:03:17,357 --> 01:03:18,520
companies that have a

2688
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,553
long track

2689
01:03:19,553 --> 01:03:20,619
record with great

2690
01:03:20,619 --> 01:03:21,801
recommendations. This

2691
01:03:21,801 --> 01:03:22,932
may be due to

2692
01:03:22,932 --> 01:03:23,977
the materials you

2693
01:03:23,977 --> 01:03:24,919
are using. A

2694
01:03:24,919 --> 01:03:25,808
lower offer

2695
01:03:25,808 --> 01:03:26,698
may be lower

2696
01:03:26,698 --> 01:03:27,755
because you get

2697
01:03:27,755 --> 01:03:28,728
what you pay for, and

2698
01:03:28,728 --> 01:03:29,424
the materials

2699
01:03:29,424 --> 01:03:30,230
contained in that

2700
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:31,203
offer are simply of

2701
01:03:31,203 --> 01:03:32,254
lower quality. So, the

2702
01:03:32,254 --> 01:03:32,640
best

2703
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,503
value for

2704
01:03:33,503 --> 01:03:34,298
money allows

2705
01:03:34,298 --> 01:03:35,116
you to consider what is

2706
01:03:35,116 --> 01:03:35,774
best for

2707
01:03:35,774 --> 01:03:36,547
your government

2708
01:03:36,547 --> 01:03:37,410
agency, best for

2709
01:03:37,410 --> 01:03:38,068
your project,

2710
01:03:38,068 --> 01:03:38,909
best for your

2711
01:03:38,909 --> 01:03:40,067
budget. Best for

2712
01:03:40,067 --> 01:03:41,147
your deadlines. This

2713
01:03:41,147 --> 01:03:41,636
allows for

2714
01:03:41,636 --> 01:03:42,528
the use of

2715
01:03:42,528 --> 01:03:43,664
value engineering.

2716
01:03:43,664 --> 01:03:44,409
So, here are a few

2717
01:03:44,409 --> 01:03:45,640
examples of value

2718
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,514
engineering. Some of

2719
01:03:47,514 --> 01:03:48,699
you know, I used to

2720
01:03:48,699 --> 01:03:49,404
work for a

2721
01:03:49,404 --> 01:03:50,653
local

2722
01:03:50,653 --> 01:03:52,112
electrical contractor. We're always

2723
01:03:52,112 --> 01:03:53,157
looking for projects with

2724
01:03:53,157 --> 01:03:54,297
really exciting

2725
01:03:54,297 --> 01:03:55,279
lighting

2726
01:03:55,279 --> 01:03:56,420
packages, new and

2727
01:03:56,420 --> 01:03:57,401
innovative, with

2728
01:03:57,401 --> 01:03:58,542
lots of

2729
01:03:58,542 --> 01:03:59,745
controls, and that's because

2730
01:03:59,745 --> 01:04:00,759
they were very

2731
01:04:00,759 --> 01:04:02,171
expensive. And we knew we would

2732
01:04:02,171 --> 01:04:03,476
get some of that

2733
01:04:03,476 --> 01:04:04,680
as profit.

2734
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,699
Often these

2735
01:04:05,699 --> 01:04:06,894
lighting packages can

2736
01:04:06,894 --> 01:04:08,229
cost as little as 10% of the

2737
01:04:08,229 --> 01:04:09,454
project cost. A

2738
01:04:09,454 --> 01:04:10,533
lighting package

2739
01:04:10,533 --> 01:04:11,747
can cost up to 20%

2740
01:04:11,747 --> 01:04:12,996
of your

2741
01:04:12,996 --> 01:04:13,900
project cost. And for

2742
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:15,034
an agency that currently

2743
01:04:15,034 --> 01:04:16,078
has a very limited

2744
01:04:16,078 --> 01:04:17,122
budget, we would like to

2745
01:04:17,122 --> 01:04:18,197
have a say in the

2746
01:04:18,197 --> 01:04:19,390
design process

2747
01:04:19,390 --> 01:04:20,464
and make sure

2748
01:04:20,464 --> 01:04:21,628
we don't design higher

2749
01:04:21,628 --> 01:04:22,613
than our

2750
01:04:22,613 --> 01:04:23,716
budget allows. The

2751
01:04:23,716 --> 01:04:24,572
design and

2752
01:04:24,572 --> 01:04:25,714
construction process allows

2753
01:04:25,714 --> 01:04:26,428
you to have this kind of

2754
01:04:26,428 --> 01:04:27,556
value engineering.

2755
01:04:27,556 --> 01:04:28,593
You know, finishes,

2756
01:04:28,593 --> 01:04:29,602
you might think

2757
01:04:29,602 --> 01:04:30,351
about

2758
01:04:30,351 --> 01:04:31,567
flooring. You may

2759
01:04:31,567 --> 01:04:32,551
have a very expensive

2760
01:04:32,551 --> 01:04:33,821
flooring and

2761
01:04:33,821 --> 01:04:34,773
you may not

2762
01:04:34,773 --> 01:04:35,757
need it to

2763
01:04:35,757 --> 01:04:36,645
move your

2764
01:04:36,645 --> 01:04:37,756
project forward, but it can

2765
01:04:37,756 --> 01:04:39,948
add a lot of expense.

2766
01:04:39,948 --> 01:04:42,344
So, you know, we could go on and

2767
01:04:42,379 --> 01:04:43,699
on, but, um,

2768
01:04:43,699 --> 01:04:44,845
we think it

2769
01:04:44,845 --> 01:04:46,234
increases the likelihood of

2770
01:04:46,234 --> 01:04:47,538
success. So, um, we

2771
01:04:47,538 --> 01:04:49,004
said before that you

2772
01:04:49,004 --> 01:04:50,391
don't want to buy a

2773
01:04:50,391 --> 01:04:51,778
Cadillac design if

2774
01:04:51,778 --> 01:04:53,265
you have the budget of a Honda Civic.

2775
01:04:53,265 --> 01:04:54,201
So, yes, we've often

2776
01:04:54,201 --> 01:04:55,221
addressed this

2777
01:04:55,221 --> 01:04:56,185
issue, and it goes back to

2778
01:04:56,185 --> 01:04:57,259
when

2779
01:04:57,259 --> 01:04:58,003
I worked on

2780
01:04:58,003 --> 01:04:59,822
Proposition 39 here for the

2781
01:05:00,951 --> 01:05:01,833
Redwood Coast Energy Authority, where schools were

2782
01:05:01,833 --> 01:05:02,604
given a clearly

2783
01:05:02,604 --> 01:05:03,568
defined budget

2784
01:05:03,568 --> 01:05:04,367
that they could

2785
01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:05,580
spend on

2786
01:05:05,607 --> 01:05:06,741
energy efficiency improvements.

2787
01:05:06,741 --> 01:05:07,819
If they spent

2788
01:05:07,819 --> 01:05:08,782
money on designing a

2789
01:05:08,782 --> 01:05:09,657
project and then the

2790
01:05:09,657 --> 01:05:10,765
bid

2791
01:05:10,765 --> 01:05:11,844
to build it

2792
01:05:11,844 --> 01:05:12,456
exceeded the

2793
01:05:12,456 --> 01:05:13,564
state-set

2794
01:05:13,564 --> 01:05:14,701
budget, they could not

2795
01:05:14,701 --> 01:05:15,868
receive compensation

2796
01:05:15,868 --> 01:05:16,772
for the design

2797
01:05:16,772 --> 01:05:17,938
because the compensation

2798
01:05:17,938 --> 01:05:18,696
was based on the

2799
01:05:18,696 --> 01:05:19,804
actual

2800
01:05:19,804 --> 01:05:21,087
energy savings achieved.

2801
01:05:21,087 --> 01:05:22,203
We have a

2802
01:05:22,203 --> 01:05:23,379
similar situation here. We

2803
01:05:23,379 --> 01:05:24,280
would like to move

2804
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,310
our employees

2805
01:05:25,310 --> 01:05:26,262
into this building, and we

2806
01:05:26,262 --> 01:05:27,035
could have a really

2807
01:05:27,035 --> 01:05:27,961
great design, but

2808
01:05:27,961 --> 01:05:28,785
if we can't

2809
01:05:28,785 --> 01:05:29,738
afford to

2810
01:05:29,738 --> 01:05:30,561
build it, it won't

2811
01:05:30,561 --> 01:05:31,565
help us cover the

2812
01:05:31,565 --> 01:05:32,595
rent, and we won't

2813
01:05:32,595 --> 01:05:33,316
be able to

2814
01:05:33,316 --> 01:05:34,240
start work on time.

2815
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,151
So, these things

2816
01:05:35,151 --> 01:05:36,290
can happen

2817
01:05:36,290 --> 01:05:37,592
where you get this

2818
01:05:37,592 --> 01:05:38,634
design that everyone

2819
01:05:38,634 --> 01:05:39,806
likes, but it

2820
01:05:39,806 --> 01:05:41,433
can lead to

2821
01:05:41,466 --> 01:05:42,475
construction costs that are

2822
01:05:42,475 --> 01:05:43,386
over our

2823
01:05:43,386 --> 01:05:44,330
budget and we, um,

2824
01:05:44,330 --> 01:05:45,470
spend money on

2825
01:05:45,470 --> 01:05:46,511
design, and there's a

2826
01:05:46,511 --> 01:05:48,631
risk. So we

2827
01:05:48,631 --> 01:05:49,954
think that can

2828
01:05:49,954 --> 01:05:51,349
mitigate that risk, and

2829
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:52,744
it can allow for, uh

2830
01:05:52,744 --> 01:05:54,138
, an accelerated schedule,

2831
01:05:54,138 --> 01:05:54,854
so

2832
01:05:54,854 --> 01:05:56,141
the landlord's work can

2833
01:05:56,141 --> 01:05:57,357
start almost

2834
01:05:57,357 --> 01:05:58,609
immediately, not right away,

2835
01:05:58,609 --> 01:05:59,932
but, uh, these tasks are

2836
01:05:59,932 --> 01:06:01,148
very simple, and, uh,

2837
01:06:01,148 --> 01:06:02,078
demolition can

2838
01:06:02,078 --> 01:06:03,437
start while you're

2839
01:06:03,437 --> 01:06:04,367
still finishing the

2840
01:06:04,367 --> 01:06:06,977
final design. There is a

2841
01:06:07,007 --> 01:06:08,012
lot of

2842
01:06:08,012 --> 01:06:09,075
large steel

2843
01:06:09,075 --> 01:06:09,696
shelving

2844
01:06:09,696 --> 01:06:10,936
equipment in the warehouse. You know, there is an

2845
01:06:10,936 --> 01:06:11,884
idea that some of

2846
01:06:11,884 --> 01:06:12,832
it can be

2847
01:06:12,832 --> 01:06:13,963
dismantled

2848
01:06:13,963 --> 01:06:15,155
while we are still designing

2849
01:06:15,155 --> 01:06:20,840
. Uh, and how does this

2850
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,201
process work? Well, it's pretty

2851
01:06:22,201 --> 01:06:23,208
clear in the

2852
01:06:23,208 --> 01:06:24,246
government

2853
01:06:24,246 --> 01:06:25,334
contracting code. Uh, we

2854
01:06:25,334 --> 01:06:26,177
need to get the

2855
01:06:26,177 --> 01:06:26,871
board of

2856
01:06:26,871 --> 01:06:27,939
directors' support for this.

2857
01:06:27,939 --> 01:06:29,084
So we need your

2858
01:06:29,084 --> 01:06:30,070
approval. Uh, this

2859
01:06:30,070 --> 01:06:31,155
applies to projects

2860
01:06:31,155 --> 01:06:31,898
for government

2861
01:06:31,898 --> 01:06:33,382
agencies where the project cost

2862
01:06:33,411 --> 01:06:34,296
will exceed

2863
01:06:34,296 --> 01:06:35,425
$1 million. We

2864
01:06:35,425 --> 01:06:36,768
definitely think that will be the

2865
01:06:36,768 --> 01:06:38,045
case. Uh, you'll still

2866
01:06:38,045 --> 01:06:38,616
have to

2867
01:06:38,616 --> 01:06:39,595
comply with all

2868
01:06:39,595 --> 01:06:40,492
applicable

2869
01:06:40,492 --> 01:06:41,498
wage requirements and

2870
01:06:41,498 --> 01:06:42,341
all other

2871
01:06:42,341 --> 01:06:43,265
government

2872
01:06:43,265 --> 01:06:44,473
contract code requirements. So we don't

2873
01:06:44,473 --> 01:06:45,609
skip any

2874
01:06:45,609 --> 01:06:47,890
steps while doing this. Er

2875
01:06:47,890 --> 01:06:49,005
, but the process is

2876
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:51,547
two-step. So,

2877
01:06:51,547 --> 01:06:52,742
first, uh, we'll

2878
01:06:52,742 --> 01:06:54,295
post a request for

2879
01:06:54,295 --> 01:06:57,047
qualifications. We would

2880
01:06:57,047 --> 01:06:57,562
receive

2881
01:06:57,562 --> 01:06:58,440
qualification

2882
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,227
documents from

2883
01:06:59,227 --> 01:06:59,984
interested

2884
01:06:59,984 --> 01:07:02,525
bidders.

2885
01:07:02,525 --> 01:07:03,843
Then we would evaluate them

2886
01:07:03,843 --> 01:07:05,567
and create a shortlist of

2887
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,817
qualified, ahem,

2888
01:07:06,817 --> 01:07:07,842
organizations. And,

2889
01:07:07,842 --> 01:07:08,282
you know,

2890
01:07:08,282 --> 01:07:09,192
the qualification

2891
01:07:09,192 --> 01:07:09,945
requirements are also

2892
01:07:09,945 --> 01:07:11,107
set out in the

2893
01:07:11,107 --> 01:07:12,331
public contracts code

2894
01:07:12,331 --> 01:07:13,885
. So, you know, we have

2895
01:07:13,885 --> 01:07:15,073
limitations in this

2896
01:07:15,073 --> 01:07:16,633
process. And so, once

2897
01:07:16,633 --> 01:07:17,623
we get through the

2898
01:07:17,623 --> 01:07:18,302
first step of

2899
01:07:18,302 --> 01:07:18,840
getting

2900
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,367
qualified

2901
01:07:20,396 --> 01:07:21,244
design and

2902
01:07:21,244 --> 01:07:22,065
construction organizations, we will

2903
01:07:22,065 --> 01:07:23,027
create a

2904
01:07:23,027 --> 01:07:24,496
shortlist. And then we

2905
01:07:24,496 --> 01:07:25,742
will take the second step –

2906
01:07:25,742 --> 01:07:26,987
publish a request for

2907
01:07:26,987 --> 01:07:28,105
proposals for these

2908
01:07:28,105 --> 01:07:30,020
shortlisted organizations

2909
01:07:30,052 --> 01:07:33,436
. Sorry. And, um,

2910
01:07:33,436 --> 01:07:34,663
and then we'll evaluate

2911
01:07:34,663 --> 01:07:35,926
our proposals against

2912
01:07:35,926 --> 01:07:36,864
this

2913
01:07:36,864 --> 01:07:39,318
best value criterion.

2914
01:07:39,318 --> 01:07:40,832
Hmm, that might include a

2915
01:07:40,832 --> 01:07:42,177
price. This could

2916
01:07:42,177 --> 01:07:43,299
include design,

2917
01:07:43,299 --> 01:07:44,313
expertise, or

2918
01:07:44,313 --> 01:07:45,653
life

2919
01:07:45,653 --> 01:07:49,444
cycle costs, ahem, included.

2920
01:07:49,444 --> 01:07:50,902
So, I would have to say that

2921
01:07:50,902 --> 01:07:51,912
this is a small

2922
01:07:51,912 --> 01:07:53,655
mistake. It's essentially the

2923
01:07:53,655 --> 01:07:54,961
same process.

2924
01:07:54,961 --> 01:07:56,116
If approved,

2925
01:07:56,116 --> 01:07:57,176
we will now go

2926
01:07:57,176 --> 01:07:58,139
through this as our

2927
01:07:58,139 --> 01:07:59,558
next steps. As I

2928
01:07:59,558 --> 01:08:00,690
just said, um,

2929
01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:01,639
request for

2930
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:03,027
quotes, request for

2931
01:08:03,027 --> 01:08:04,379
qualifications, then

2932
01:08:04,379 --> 01:08:05,511
shortlist,

2933
01:08:05,511 --> 01:08:06,497
then request for

2934
01:08:06,497 --> 01:08:07,666
proposals, and, um,

2935
01:08:07,666 --> 01:08:10,496
award of contract.

2936
01:08:10,496 --> 01:08:12,048
And with that, I'll, um, stop

2937
01:08:12,048 --> 01:08:13,522
and pause for

2938
01:08:13,522 --> 01:08:15,606
questions.

2939
01:08:15,606 --> 01:08:16,938
And we are requesting that a

2940
01:08:16,938 --> 01:08:22,551
special committee be established

2941
01:08:22,551 --> 01:08:23,846
to review, um, the

2942
01:08:23,846 --> 01:08:25,247
shortlist, um, and

2943
01:08:25,247 --> 01:08:26,507
advise staff

2944
01:08:26,507 --> 01:08:27,767
on the next steps,

2945
01:08:27,767 --> 01:08:28,538
um, before

2946
01:08:28,538 --> 01:08:29,798
returning the contract

2947
01:08:29,798 --> 01:08:33,848
for approval.

2948
01:08:33,848 --> 01:08:38,227
Thank you, Evelyn. Yes,

2949
01:08:38,227 --> 01:08:39,702
please.

2950
01:08:39,702 --> 01:08:40,882
I was actually on a

2951
01:08:40,882 --> 01:08:41,804
special

2952
01:08:41,804 --> 01:08:42,800
committee that

2953
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,486
was looking at, um,

2954
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,839
building design proposals

2955
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:49,090
when we were looking at

2956
01:08:49,090 --> 01:08:52,438
another site. And it

2957
01:08:52,438 --> 01:08:53,575
seems to me that this

2958
01:08:53,575 --> 01:08:55,016
process, hmm, really didn't

2959
01:08:55,016 --> 01:08:57,338
work. And I

2960
01:08:57,338 --> 01:08:58,597
wonder if this was, in my

2961
01:08:58,597 --> 01:08:59,686
opinion, a

2962
01:08:59,686 --> 01:09:00,537
design-

2963
01:09:00,537 --> 01:09:02,009
build process. So I

2964
01:09:02,009 --> 01:09:04,006
wonder if it's the same thing?

2965
01:09:04,006 --> 01:09:05,265
And if so, how

2966
01:09:05,265 --> 01:09:06,525
could it work

2967
01:09:06,525 --> 01:09:08,654
differently?

2968
01:09:08,654 --> 01:09:10,603
I mean,

2969
01:09:10,603 --> 01:09:11,723
yeah, we were actually

2970
01:09:11,723 --> 01:09:12,808
going through, um, we were

2971
01:09:12,808 --> 01:09:13,579
just looking for

2972
01:09:13,579 --> 01:09:14,559
an architect and

2973
01:09:14,559 --> 01:09:16,582
an engineer. So it

2974
01:09:16,582 --> 01:09:17,665
wasn't design-

2975
01:09:17,665 --> 01:09:20,242
build. Hmm, and what

2976
01:09:20,242 --> 01:09:21,293
happened was that

2977
01:09:21,293 --> 01:09:22,742
basically all the estimates

2978
01:09:22,742 --> 01:09:23,757
that

2979
01:09:23,757 --> 01:09:24,772
the architects and

2980
01:09:24,772 --> 01:09:26,149
engineers looked at were,

2981
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:27,454
ahem, new

2982
01:09:27,454 --> 01:09:28,360
construction costs of 8

2983
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,991
million and up. And

2984
01:09:30,991 --> 01:09:33,882
we had a busy,

2985
01:09:33,882 --> 01:09:35,358
um, fiscal year, and,

2986
01:09:35,358 --> 01:09:36,797
um, continuing on this

2987
01:09:36,797 --> 01:09:37,630
path was

2988
01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:51,529
impossible.

2989
01:09:51,529 --> 01:09:52,783
Question: Is an independent inspector needed

2990
01:09:52,783 --> 01:09:54,797
for the project

2991
01:09:54,797 --> 01:10:02,340
?

2992
01:10:02,340 --> 01:10:03,420
The project will require

2993
01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:04,023
routine

2994
01:10:04,023 --> 01:10:04,754
construction

2995
01:10:04,754 --> 01:10:05,357
inspections by

2996
01:10:05,357 --> 01:10:06,596
the competent authority

2997
01:10:06,596 --> 01:10:08,882
, which is the City of Eureka.

2998
01:10:08,882 --> 01:10:14,020
Um, that's possible, or

2999
01:10:14,020 --> 01:10:15,104
at least it's possible to

3000
01:10:15,104 --> 01:10:16,314
hire an independent

3001
01:10:16,314 --> 01:10:17,557
inspector, but we don't

3002
01:10:17,557 --> 01:10:18,672
think we

3003
01:10:18,672 --> 01:10:19,787
need one, since the

3004
01:10:19,787 --> 01:10:20,807
normal

3005
01:10:20,807 --> 01:10:21,890
city inspection process

3006
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:23,037
should cover everything

3007
01:10:23,037 --> 01:10:23,961
we need to

3008
01:10:23,961 --> 01:10:29,013
inspect. Usually, the

3009
01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:30,199
only time

3010
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:31,105
I've seen this is on

3011
01:10:31,105 --> 01:10:32,230
school projects where

3012
01:10:32,230 --> 01:10:33,354
local inspectors

3013
01:10:33,354 --> 01:10:34,610
have no jurisdiction.

3014
01:10:34,610 --> 01:10:35,786
over schools

3015
01:10:35,786 --> 01:10:36,752
lies with the Department of

3016
01:10:36,752 --> 01:10:37,325
State

3017
01:10:37,325 --> 01:10:38,382
Architects, which

3018
01:10:38,382 --> 01:10:39,559
then has independent

3019
01:10:39,559 --> 01:10:40,494
inspectors to

3020
01:10:40,494 --> 01:10:41,188
ensure that

3021
01:10:41,188 --> 01:10:42,274
schools comply with the

3022
01:10:42,274 --> 01:10:43,180
Department of

3023
01:10:43,180 --> 01:10:43,753
State

3024
01:10:43,753 --> 01:10:44,968
Architects' requirements. But that's

3025
01:10:44,968 --> 01:10:46,139
only because local

3026
01:10:46,139 --> 01:10:47,310
jurisdictions simply don't

3027
01:10:47,310 --> 01:10:47,970
have that

3028
01:10:47,970 --> 01:10:48,871
jurisdiction over

3029
01:10:48,871 --> 01:10:55,477
school districts.

3030
01:10:55,477 --> 01:10:58,944
Nancy?

3031
01:10:58,944 --> 01:11:00,099
Yes, and I'll just add

3032
01:11:00,099 --> 01:11:01,094
that often local

3033
01:11:01,094 --> 01:11:02,250
agencies hire a

3034
01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:03,309
project engineer to

3035
01:11:03,309 --> 01:11:04,337
conduct

3036
01:11:04,337 --> 01:11:05,525
inspections on behalf of the

3037
01:11:05,525 --> 01:11:09,442
agency. They're not

3038
01:11:09,442 --> 01:11:10,284
for the

3039
01:11:10,284 --> 01:11:11,035
building

3040
01:11:11,035 --> 01:11:12,058
official, they're not

3041
01:11:12,058 --> 01:11:14,073
for the

3042
01:11:14,704 --> 01:11:16,561
building permit approval process, um. But

3043
01:11:16,561 --> 01:11:17,305
they must

3044
01:11:17,305 --> 01:11:18,483
help the agency

3045
01:11:18,483 --> 01:11:19,445
make sure the

3046
01:11:19,445 --> 01:11:20,561
work is done

3047
01:11:20,561 --> 01:11:21,755
properly. But it

3048
01:11:21,755 --> 01:11:22,625
seems like you don't

3049
01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:23,914
think you

3050
01:11:23,914 --> 01:11:24,562
need it here.

3051
01:11:24,562 --> 01:11:25,769
No, we don't expect to

3052
01:11:25,769 --> 01:11:27,007
need it at

3053
01:11:27,007 --> 01:11:28,243
this time. There's

3054
01:11:28,243 --> 01:11:29,081
not much

3055
01:11:29,081 --> 01:11:31,094
unique there. This is not the

3056
01:11:31,124 --> 01:11:32,024
airport microgrid where we

3057
01:11:32,024 --> 01:11:32,714
brought in

3058
01:11:32,714 --> 01:11:33,854
outside engineers

3059
01:11:33,854 --> 01:11:34,664
to review,

3060
01:11:34,664 --> 01:11:35,385
approve, and

3061
01:11:35,385 --> 01:11:36,015
conduct

3062
01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:36,705
acceptance

3063
01:11:36,705 --> 01:11:37,605
testing for

3064
01:11:37,605 --> 01:11:38,385
a lot of very

3065
01:11:38,385 --> 01:11:39,165
unique and

3066
01:11:39,165 --> 01:11:40,155
innovative, uh,

3067
01:11:40,155 --> 01:11:41,068
concepts. And this is

3068
01:11:41,068 --> 01:11:41,794
not really a

3069
01:11:41,794 --> 01:11:42,580
unique and

3070
01:11:42,580 --> 01:11:43,830
innovative project.

3071
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:45,024
This...This is a standard

3072
01:11:45,024 --> 01:11:51,320
design.

3073
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,149
Um, I want to. Do

3074
01:11:53,149 --> 01:11:54,509
you want to clarify that there are three

3075
01:11:54,509 --> 01:11:55,832
things that we will ultimately

3076
01:11:55,832 --> 01:11:57,353
propose here.

3077
01:11:57,353 --> 01:11:58,298
First, approve the

3078
01:11:58,298 --> 01:11:59,535
design

3079
01:11:59,535 --> 01:12:01,218
and construction process.

3080
01:12:01,218 --> 01:12:04,160
Secondly, create ad hoc.

3081
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,528
Third, delegate

3082
01:12:05,528 --> 01:12:06,932
authority to this ad

3083
01:12:06,932 --> 01:12:10,561
hoc. So, if the board of

3084
01:12:10,561 --> 01:12:11,717
directors has any

3085
01:12:11,717 --> 01:12:12,940
questions about

3086
01:12:12,940 --> 01:12:14,030
any of these three,

3087
01:12:14,030 --> 01:12:15,318
please ask

3088
01:12:15,318 --> 01:12:19,655
. Director Stephanie, have

3089
01:12:19,655 --> 01:12:20,555
you had any

3090
01:12:20,555 --> 01:12:21,668
follow-up? I had them

3091
01:12:21,668 --> 01:12:23,079
. I'm

3092
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:24,194
just wondering if

3093
01:12:24,194 --> 01:12:25,274
you expect there are

3094
01:12:25,274 --> 01:12:26,529
a few construction

3095
01:12:26,529 --> 01:12:27,504
organizations

3096
01:12:27,504 --> 01:12:28,863
locally that would,

3097
01:12:28,863 --> 01:12:30,152
uh, respond to

3098
01:12:30,152 --> 01:12:31,058
this, uh, request for

3099
01:12:31,058 --> 01:12:33,524
quotes?

3100
01:12:33,524 --> 01:12:34,685
Uh, we, we certainly

3101
01:12:34,685 --> 01:12:35,941
hope so, and

3102
01:12:35,941 --> 01:12:36,821
in my experience,

3103
01:12:36,821 --> 01:12:38,045
local firms are

3104
01:12:38,045 --> 01:12:39,239
involved in the

3105
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:40,181
design and

3106
01:12:40,181 --> 01:12:41,374
construction contracts, but, um,

3107
01:12:41,374 --> 01:12:42,473
we haven't thought of

3108
01:12:42,473 --> 01:12:43,509
anyone in particular or

3109
01:12:43,509 --> 01:12:48,748
anything like that.

3110
01:12:48,748 --> 01:12:49,634
Uh, my personal

3111
01:12:49,634 --> 01:12:50,750
opinion is that there

3112
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:51,838
are many ways to

3113
01:12:51,838 --> 01:12:52,992
skin a cat. I

3114
01:12:52,992 --> 01:12:53,781
mean,

3115
01:12:53,781 --> 01:12:54,489
design,

3116
01:12:54,489 --> 01:12:55,305
engineering and

3117
01:12:55,305 --> 01:12:56,149
construction, uh,

3118
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:56,830
obviously has

3119
01:12:56,830 --> 01:12:57,891
inherent risks, as do

3120
01:12:57,891 --> 01:12:58,653
design-

3121
01:12:58,653 --> 01:12:59,633
bid-build

3122
01:12:59,633 --> 01:13:00,938
and other methods. But

3123
01:13:00,938 --> 01:13:01,935
for me, probably the

3124
01:13:01,935 --> 01:13:02,995
most important thing is that the

3125
01:13:02,995 --> 01:13:04,152
staff

3126
01:13:04,152 --> 01:13:05,438
feel most comfortable with it, um,

3127
01:13:05,438 --> 01:13:06,659
and check out these different

3128
01:13:06,659 --> 01:13:08,811
options. So, I think

3129
01:13:08,811 --> 01:13:09,790
, um, for me it's

3130
01:13:09,790 --> 01:13:11,106
about trusting what the

3131
01:13:11,106 --> 01:13:12,186
staff

3132
01:13:12,186 --> 01:13:13,368
has brought here and providing

3133
01:13:13,368 --> 01:13:19,258
their own experience.

3134
01:13:19,258 --> 01:13:20,401
I will say, um, Director

3135
01:13:20,401 --> 01:13:21,610
Scafani alluded to the

3136
01:13:21,610 --> 01:13:22,524
process that we were

3137
01:13:22,524 --> 01:13:23,439
looking at for the

3138
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,452
wasteland, and at that

3139
01:13:24,452 --> 01:13:25,203
point we were not

3140
01:13:25,203 --> 01:13:25,889
looking at

3141
01:13:25,889 --> 01:13:26,869
design and

3142
01:13:26,869 --> 01:13:29,251
construction. Uh,

3143
01:13:29,251 --> 01:13:30,503
partly it was,

3144
01:13:30,503 --> 01:13:31,639
you know, staffing

3145
01:13:31,639 --> 01:13:34,004
constraints. Uh, I

3146
01:13:34,004 --> 01:13:35,249
think Mike Avakian

3147
01:13:35,249 --> 01:13:36,526
as the project manager on

3148
01:13:36,526 --> 01:13:37,515
this and the

3149
01:13:37,515 --> 01:13:38,601
skill set that

3150
01:13:38,601 --> 01:13:39,527
he brings

3151
01:13:39,527 --> 01:13:40,165
gives us

3152
01:13:40,165 --> 01:13:41,314
confidence that

3153
01:13:41,314 --> 01:13:42,049
we can

3154
01:13:42,049 --> 01:13:43,709
handle this through

3155
01:13:43,741 --> 01:13:44,698
design and

3156
01:13:44,698 --> 01:13:47,671
construction. Um, the

3157
01:13:47,671 --> 01:13:54,835
process.

3158
01:13:54,835 --> 01:13:55,924
Any further

3159
01:13:55,924 --> 01:14:10,941
discussion?

3160
01:14:10,941 --> 01:14:13,641
This is part of the design.

3161
01:14:13,641 --> 01:14:14,376
Yes, if we

3162
01:14:14,376 --> 01:14:15,601
have to cut

3163
01:14:15,601 --> 01:14:16,826
spending, we will cut

3164
01:14:16,826 --> 01:14:17,776
it everywhere, but this is a

3165
01:14:17,776 --> 01:14:18,879
public room

3166
01:14:18,879 --> 01:14:20,651
for negotiation. A

3167
01:14:20,683 --> 01:14:26,485
meeting room?

3168
01:14:26,485 --> 01:14:27,303
Yes, we have a

3169
01:14:27,303 --> 01:14:28,434
conceptual

3170
01:14:28,434 --> 01:14:29,915
design that includes a

3171
01:14:29,915 --> 01:14:31,241
conference room for 50

3172
01:14:31,241 --> 01:14:32,450
people, that's what we

3173
01:14:32,450 --> 01:14:36,235
requested.

3174
01:14:36,235 --> 01:14:41,993
Of course.

3175
01:14:41,993 --> 01:14:47,132
Yes. They have one. It's

3176
01:14:47,132 --> 01:14:47,976
in

3177
01:14:47,976 --> 01:14:49,178
their space, and,

3178
01:14:49,178 --> 01:14:50,282
um, they have rules

3179
01:14:50,282 --> 01:14:51,288
about giving us

3180
01:14:51,288 --> 01:14:53,951
access. So we won't

3181
01:14:53,951 --> 01:14:55,231
have permanent

3182
01:14:55,231 --> 01:14:56,343
access to their

3183
01:14:56,343 --> 01:14:57,555
existing conference

3184
01:14:57,555 --> 01:15:03,456
room. They have 5 years

3185
01:15:03,456 --> 01:15:05,041
exactly, and they have

3186
01:15:05,041 --> 01:15:06,111
another, um, right

3187
01:15:06,111 --> 01:15:08,603
to continue. So

3188
01:15:08,603 --> 01:15:10,167
they'll probably be

3189
01:15:10,167 --> 01:15:11,507
there for 10 years.

3190
01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,397
Good. The preliminary

3191
01:15:14,397 --> 01:15:15,633
plan places it

3192
01:15:15,633 --> 01:15:16,798
as close as possible to

3193
01:15:16,798 --> 01:15:18,105
what will be the

3194
01:15:18,105 --> 01:15:20,645
ADA entrance. Just for

3195
01:15:20,645 --> 01:15:21,851
some reason, we imagine

3196
01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:22,989
him in this corner of the

3197
01:15:22,989 --> 01:15:30,226
warehouse.

3198
01:15:30,226 --> 01:15:32,126
Director Diaz.

3199
01:15:32,126 --> 01:15:34,845
Just a comment.

3200
01:15:34,845 --> 01:15:36,123
Having experience working with

3201
01:15:36,123 --> 01:15:38,265
contracts and for

3202
01:15:39,224 --> 01:15:40,470
Humboldt California Polytechnic Institute

3203
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:41,269
, I advise having a

3204
01:15:41,269 --> 01:15:42,548
supervisor or someone

3205
01:15:42,548 --> 01:15:43,379
who oversees

3206
01:15:43,379 --> 01:15:44,434
construction, precisely

3207
01:15:44,434 --> 01:15:48,682
because of the tendency for

3208
01:15:48,682 --> 01:15:49,587
many changes in

3209
01:15:49,587 --> 01:15:50,648
orders after

3210
01:15:50,648 --> 01:15:51,865
construction begins, which

3211
01:15:51,865 --> 01:15:52,646
usually

3212
01:15:52,646 --> 01:15:53,457
results in a

3213
01:15:53,457 --> 01:15:54,519
sharp increase in

3214
01:15:54,519 --> 01:15:55,896
price. So, just having

3215
01:15:55,896 --> 01:15:57,225
someone overseeing

3216
01:15:57,225 --> 01:15:58,421
it to ensure that the

3217
01:15:58,421 --> 01:16:01,499
budget

3218
01:16:01,499 --> 01:16:09,212
and contract are adhered to.

3219
01:16:09,212 --> 01:16:10,403
This sounds like a comment from

3220
01:16:10,403 --> 01:16:11,626
someone who wants to be

3221
01:16:11,626 --> 01:16:12,504
on a special

3222
01:16:12,504 --> 01:16:13,734
committee. I don't know,

3223
01:16:13,734 --> 01:16:14,997
but I'll just ask, "

3224
01:16:14,997 --> 01:16:16,293
Who wants to be on this

3225
01:16:16,293 --> 01:16:21,279
committee?"

3226
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:22,538
And these, I think, will be the

3227
01:16:22,538 --> 01:16:23,832
details of the construction

3228
01:16:23,832 --> 01:16:25,125
contract, which

3229
01:16:25,125 --> 01:16:26,249
will also be provided to us

3230
01:16:26,249 --> 01:16:31,645
later. Yes. Are there

3231
01:16:31,645 --> 01:16:32,604
any public

3232
01:16:32,604 --> 01:16:36,877
discussions?

3233
01:16:36,877 --> 01:16:38,153
No hands raised

3234
01:16:38,153 --> 01:16:47,506
online. Is it

3235
01:16:47,506 --> 01:16:48,247
proposed

3236
01:16:48,247 --> 01:16:49,700
to authorize the

3237
01:16:49,730 --> 01:16:50,472
RCEA Executive Director to

3238
01:16:50,472 --> 01:16:51,430
utilize the

3239
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:52,604
design

3240
01:16:52,604 --> 01:16:53,686
and build process to

3241
01:16:53,686 --> 01:16:54,273
procure

3242
01:16:54,273 --> 01:16:55,200
the design and

3243
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:55,911
build of the

3244
01:16:55,911 --> 01:16:56,622
commercial

3245
01:16:56,622 --> 01:16:57,611
renovation and

3246
01:16:57,611 --> 01:16:58,414
improvement at

3247
01:16:58,414 --> 01:16:59,619
718 3rd Street, Eureka,

3248
01:16:59,619 --> 01:17:00,763
and to initiate the first

3249
01:17:00,763 --> 01:17:01,875
step by developing and

3250
01:17:01,875 --> 01:17:03,049
publishing a Request

3251
01:17:03,049 --> 01:17:04,235
for Qualifications.

3252
01:17:04,235 --> 01:17:05,138
Also create a

3253
01:17:05,138 --> 01:17:06,363
special committee

3254
01:17:06,363 --> 01:17:07,718
on

3255
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:08,427
building renovations,

3256
01:17:08,427 --> 01:17:09,589
consisting of five

3257
01:17:09,589 --> 01:17:10,588
or fewer

3258
01:17:10,588 --> 01:17:11,828
RCEA board members. And

3259
01:17:11,828 --> 01:17:12,536
delegate

3260
01:17:12,536 --> 01:17:13,379
authority to the

3261
01:17:13,379 --> 01:17:14,222
Special

3262
01:17:14,222 --> 01:17:16,211
Committee on

3263
01:17:16,245 --> 01:17:17,459
Building Renovations to approve a

3264
01:17:17,459 --> 01:17:18,471
shortlist of

3265
01:17:18,471 --> 01:17:20,291
qualified

3266
01:17:20,325 --> 01:17:21,337
design and

3267
01:17:21,337 --> 01:17:22,281
construction contractors and

3268
01:17:22,281 --> 01:17:23,124
authorize the

3269
01:17:23,124 --> 01:17:23,900
Executive

3270
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:24,540
Director to

3271
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:25,754
issue a request

3272
01:17:25,754 --> 01:17:26,934
for proposals for the

3273
01:17:26,934 --> 01:17:27,710
construction of

3274
01:17:27,710 --> 01:17:28,486
commercial

3275
01:17:28,486 --> 01:17:29,565
renovations and

3276
01:17:29,565 --> 01:17:30,880
improvements at 718th and

3277
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,564
723rd Streets in Yuritsa.

3278
01:17:35,564 --> 01:17:37,639
So it is proposed.

3279
01:17:37,639 --> 01:17:39,173
Second.

3280
01:17:39,173 --> 01:17:40,277
Who will be on this

3281
01:17:40,277 --> 01:17:40,946
committee?

3282
01:17:40,946 --> 01:17:42,416
Do we have volunteers?

3283
01:17:42,416 --> 01:17:43,565
We have to decide

3284
01:17:43,565 --> 01:17:44,473
who will be on this

3285
01:17:44,473 --> 01:17:45,088
committee.

3286
01:17:45,088 --> 01:17:46,016
I am happy to be on the

3287
01:17:46,016 --> 01:17:48,459
committee.

3288
01:17:48,459 --> 01:17:49,545
I can also be a

3289
01:17:49,545 --> 01:17:59,470
volunteer.

3290
01:17:59,470 --> 01:18:00,486
Five or less, I

3291
01:18:00,486 --> 01:18:01,661
think that's probably

3292
01:18:01,661 --> 01:18:02,900
fine unless we have

3293
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:03,758
more

3294
01:18:03,758 --> 01:18:04,965
interested

3295
01:18:04,965 --> 01:18:13,959
board members. Should this be

3296
01:18:13,959 --> 01:18:15,339
added to the proposal

3297
01:18:15,339 --> 01:18:17,079
or not. Good. So,

3298
01:18:17,079 --> 01:18:18,233
we have an offer, and I

3299
01:18:18,233 --> 01:18:19,418
think we got a

3300
01:18:19,418 --> 01:18:20,909
second offer? Uh,

3301
01:18:20,909 --> 01:18:22,007
okay, go

3302
01:18:22,007 --> 01:18:23,338
by the show of hands.

3303
01:18:23,338 --> 01:18:24,056
Hmm, everyone who

3304
01:18:24,056 --> 01:18:25,186
voted "yes",

3305
01:18:25,186 --> 01:18:28,686
raise your hands.

3306
01:18:28,686 --> 01:18:29,481
The proposal is

3307
01:18:29,481 --> 01:18:30,772
unanimous.

3308
01:18:30,772 --> 01:18:33,269
Thank you very much.

3309
01:18:33,269 --> 01:18:45,439
Thank you.

3310
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,777
Okay, I think that, uh,

3311
01:18:46,777 --> 01:18:47,647
we can, uh,

3312
01:18:47,647 --> 01:18:48,952
take requests for

3313
01:18:48,952 --> 01:18:50,090
future

3314
01:18:50,090 --> 01:18:51,486
agenda items. Are there

3315
01:18:51,486 --> 01:18:52,657
any requests that the

3316
01:18:52,657 --> 01:18:53,864
board, uh, would like to

3317
01:18:53,864 --> 01:18:54,632
see, uh,

3318
01:18:54,632 --> 01:18:55,583
included on

3319
01:18:55,583 --> 01:18:56,827
future

3320
01:18:56,827 --> 01:19:03,528
agendas? Having heard

3321
01:19:03,528 --> 01:19:04,860
none, we adjourn the

3322
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:05,593
meeting.

3323
01:19:05,593 --> 01:19:07,077
Thank you all.

3324
01:19:07,077 --> 01:19:08,724
Good night.