1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,320
22nd meeting over the overconsufficiency commission, we're already going to be joining the budget committee.

2
00:00:08,420 --> 00:00:16,500
I'd like to lead you to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, on the

3
00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:21,120
in the middle of the building, and that's just for all of you.

4
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,900
Good evening, Mark Mariano.

5
00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,860
With O'Connor 360, if you ever hope it tonight,

6
00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:57,820
representing Frank Correllah for the 129 Mississippi Project.

7
00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,480
This is a notice of intent.

8
00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:08,340
We had submitted an October of 25 in which then we

9
00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:17,200
did the in-red in-red was approved, and this updates the site with the new house that's proposed by Mr.

10
00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:18,360
Perrella.

11
00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,520
The current site, as shown, shows the wetlands as was approved on the in-red that was approved

12
00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,320
in August of 2026,

13
00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:34,460
with work that's found within the regulatory areas to be a single-family

14
00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:41,600
portions of the Title V septic system site grading in a proposing ground pool in

15
00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:50,640
site well. The site will be controlled by erosion controls, and we'll have a double

16
00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:58,700
erosion control around the slurry pit for the well, and there will also be signs around

17
00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:01,180
the property that delineate the riparian zone

18
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,740
and we do have. So the existing if you were out there

19
00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:17,240
today you have your existing tree line found here. So the line is coming in quite a bit away from

20
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:24,960
that to mitigate space into the riparian zone. On our original submission I believe we took or

21
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:31,500
requesting 8-9% of a very perians' own take in this misinformation we're only taking 1%.

22
00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:40,020
The purpose of that is to allow for constructability of the future pool and controls around that.

23
00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:47,660
As far as the plan goes itself, I don't have any issues.

24
00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:53,820
There are lots of questions I have about the plans. Mark, you weren't here at the meeting.

25
00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:57,220
Last meeting. Rachel covered for me.

26
00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,360
She told you about our new regulations.

27
00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:03,200
Everything's going to be submitted by the day.

28
00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,840
But there's also a matter of how.

29
00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,040
Because we really respect the engineers and we trust them.

30
00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:11,940
And if the plan wasn't perfect, we'd say just fix it.

31
00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:13,280
And that's no longer the case.

32
00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:20,080
So there are a few issues here that you're going to have to fix.

33
00:03:20,180 --> 00:03:20,520
Okay.

34
00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:21,980
Do I.

35
00:03:21,980 --> 00:03:27,000
I do appreciate the fact that you have really reduced the taking and I think that's within a

36
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,140
workable limit.

37
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:35,640
One thing you don't have is no matter what DEP insists, any taking of any of any of any of

38
00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,940
any of your riparian zones or BVW requires an alternative analysis if you don't have one.

39
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,380
There was one originally submitted with this project.

40
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,500
It's the whole different thing.

41
00:03:45,220 --> 00:03:48,380
You're talking 9% before and now we're at 1%.

42
00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:54,560
And so you've got to adjust for what you're taking, which, in other words, you've got to,

43
00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:58,440
you know, the eternal analysis isn't the narrative or what you're doing.

44
00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:03,180
It's what, yeah, that's not the eternal analysis up there.

45
00:04:03,420 --> 00:04:09,620
The eternal analysis is that you look at several places on the plan, on the field,

46
00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:14,160
and no other place will work except that one, and then you give the reason why.

47
00:04:15,860 --> 00:04:20,120
The it's got a problem, but I'm just saying if you need to be flyers

48
00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:25,080
So you've got to have a real internal internal analysis

49
00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:28,280
When you submit your plans

50
00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:35,960
All right, which you don't have with this. This is a new plan in the sense because you have changed the number of things to the better

51
00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,080
To the better well, yes, well new owner

52
00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:43,980
Prop and it's completely different house another thing is is on this plan that I have that you that was submitted

53
00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:50,520
on the first, your inner riparian zone isn't accurate.

54
00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:54,160
You're using the old inner riparian zone,

55
00:04:55,380 --> 00:04:59,080
and then you didn't adjust it for when we changed the flagging.

56
00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:00,940
Oh, they saw it.

57
00:05:00,940 --> 00:05:01,880
You see where it is?

58
00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,740
Yeah, but you don't like 50 hits away?

59
00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:05,460
Yeah, but it still falls within the beat.

60
00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,820
Oh, no, but it's gotta be accurate.

61
00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:16,690
And really, those are the two big things that I had.

62
00:05:18,430 --> 00:05:21,510
So that's fine there and everything else that I don't have any issues with.

63
00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:22,390
How about you guys?

64
00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:24,150
Oh, what do you think?

65
00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:25,570
I don't have anything that.

66
00:05:26,650 --> 00:05:28,330
I don't have anything that.

67
00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:29,350
I don't have anything that.

68
00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:29,610
Yeah?

69
00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:30,370
I'll show it.

70
00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:31,110
You all said.

71
00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:35,570
Okay, so you've got to fix the, you've got to fix the plans.

72
00:05:36,410 --> 00:05:39,370
So we all agree that this is going to work.

73
00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:41,690
All right, you need the alternative analysis.

74
00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:43,870
Not what you have at the top there.

75
00:05:44,130 --> 00:05:47,130
Alternative analysis and just listing the total riparian zone

76
00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:47,990
and this and that.

77
00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:52,230
And you need to fix the inner riparian line.

78
00:05:52,930 --> 00:05:53,410
We should close.

79
00:05:53,530 --> 00:05:55,910
You should even have to come in for that one.

80
00:05:56,370 --> 00:05:57,650
Fix those plans and deliver them.

81
00:05:58,430 --> 00:05:59,350
You'll be all set.

82
00:05:59,770 --> 00:05:59,910
Okay.

83
00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:00,710
Okay.

84
00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:03,910
The body is that is the outer riparian zone correct?

85
00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:04,870
Yeah, that's correct.

86
00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:05,310
That's correct.

87
00:06:05,310 --> 00:06:06,050
What it looks like.

88
00:06:06,410 --> 00:06:07,770
So you just forgot to change.

89
00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:09,390
Just into the offset.

90
00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:09,710
Changing.

91
00:06:10,030 --> 00:06:10,290
All right.

92
00:06:10,450 --> 00:06:11,790
You're going to ask for continuance.

93
00:06:12,010 --> 00:06:13,610
But this applies to everybody now more.

94
00:06:14,430 --> 00:06:14,730
Okay.

95
00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:20,110
So just so we're clear, it's, um, alternatives analysis and adjusting in our

96
00:06:20,110 --> 00:06:20,870
Appearance online.

97
00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:22,050
Updated, alternative analysis.

98
00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:25,830
Updated and then assuming the alternative analysis looks good, then you should

99
00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:26,530
be ready to go.

100
00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:26,830
Yeah.

101
00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:28,250
This is a much better point than the original.

102
00:06:28,310 --> 00:06:28,530
Great.

103
00:06:28,690 --> 00:06:28,930
Okay.

104
00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:33,170
I'm going to make a motion in that we grant the offensive request for continuance until

105
00:06:33,170 --> 00:06:34,050
October 6.

106
00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:36,710
Check it. All in favour? Aye. Any opposed?

107
00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:40,010
Next slide. Thank you. Okay.

108
00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:41,790
Rob, may I ask.

109
00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:52,240
Are you setting up Rob?

110
00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:54,920
Mr. Paul, 1.5 people in.

111
00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,580
Uh, I got a proposal.

112
00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,120
How many people here are for 154 agricultural.

113
00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:01,220
Just raise your hands.

114
00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,320
Um, but those who may not know this is an enrave.

115
00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,180
It's an abbreviated notice of resource array delineated.

116
00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:18,240
The only reason for this, just staring here, is to determine the accuracy of the delineation

117
00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,220
of the boring vegetative wetlands.

118
00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,920
Nothing else.

119
00:07:23,380 --> 00:07:23,560
All right.

120
00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,220
So, after Rob, you know, it's just, we just want to know the accuracy.

121
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,280
We don't even know if, in theory, what,

122
00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,800
What they're going to do with this property or anything else? So after Rob, this is his presentation, and we

123
00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:43,380
can finish with our questions. I'm going to open it up to the audience for questions. But the questions

124
00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:48,660
have to be related to the ordering, vegetative, wetlands. You know whether or not you know there

125
00:07:48,660 --> 00:07:54,020
are more on there, but if you ask me, how many houses we don't have an answer? Where are the roads?

126
00:07:54,020 --> 00:07:55,800
We don't know, we don't have any answer.

127
00:07:56,500 --> 00:08:00,460
It's only the accuracy of the line or whether or not

128
00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:02,400
there are more wetlands on the property or not.

129
00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,640
There's only thing that we can talk about tonight.

130
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:06,720
All right, Rob.

131
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,160
Good evening.

132
00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,220
My name is Rob Davis from Insight Engineering, 1539,

133
00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,780
follow over Avenue and Seacock.

134
00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:18,000
We had the in-red review done by peer review.

135
00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,540
Mr. Brad Holmes from Environmental Consulting

136
00:08:20,540 --> 00:08:30,960
restoration. He submitted his review memo number two, dated September 22nd, 2026. We had made

137
00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:38,700
our modifications to the flagging as requested in his original review memo. We conceded every

138
00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:43,720
point. They were relatively minor and be glad to walk through those changes with a commission.

139
00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:52,080
starting at the top on page two. The flag spacing was a concern. They wanted us to tighten

140
00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:58,480
up some of the flagging. This route is in the area of the area of the flagging.

141
00:09:11,620 --> 00:09:12,180
I'm

142
00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:21,340
portion of the V series here, and down on the bottom in this area here for the V series.

143
00:09:23,540 --> 00:09:29,660
Next, he had a concern about the C series between 65 and C66.

144
00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,260
That's in this area here.

145
00:09:32,740 --> 00:09:39,400
We added this little finger of flagging, well, it's ran up a little bit, but we've conceded

146
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:46,380
this wetland boundary here for added C65A through 65L in this area.

147
00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:51,880
Next, you had to concern about the flagging between C10 and C11.

148
00:09:54,930 --> 00:09:59,130
That's on page number one.

149
00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:06,960
It was actually a small isolated area here

150
00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,980
on the north side of this existing cart path.

151
00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:15,900
It was hydrochlorically connected based on this 15-inch HDP-E-Colver here.

152
00:10:16,020 --> 00:10:25,800
We located that culvert, and we added flags C10A through C10F in this area here.

153
00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:33,420
Next, back on number two, there was a concern about a connection.

154
00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,780
It's a little connection between the V series

155
00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:44,280
and the Z series here.

156
00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:56,480
We added flags Z8A through Z8E in this area here, connecting this side of the wetland.

157
00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,280
And this side of the wetland was connected by adding Z21A through Z21C.

158
00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,380
So now there's a little connection of wetlands.

159
00:11:06,380 --> 00:11:08,580
The saw is connected in here.

160
00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,760
Last, there is a cart path that goes through,

161
00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,520
it's a well pronounced cart path that goes through

162
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,540
this area here.

163
00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,400
He made note of specific hydraulic connection between

164
00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,840
specific wetland flags.

165
00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,900
One of those connections across the cart path is here.

166
00:11:33,850 --> 00:11:34,970
On the third crossing,

167
00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:43,790
At the second crossing is here, and at the third crossing is here with the connected flags

168
00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:54,770
as noted in Mr. Holmes review. There was also a note of the perennial stream that was

169
00:11:54,770 --> 00:11:59,850
the blue line stream that was shown on the original plan. We discussed it at the last meeting.

170
00:11:59,850 --> 00:12:06,550
that was actually proven to be intermittent based on a filing that was done for this property

171
00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:12,710
here, so we've shown that as an intermittent stream. Again, we conceded each of the

172
00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:18,930
points that Mr. Holmes had referenced. I'd be happy to answer any questions for that.

173
00:12:19,730 --> 00:12:26,030
I'm happy with it. How about you guys? You guys have done everything that Brad did to just.

174
00:12:28,010 --> 00:12:34,450
Yeah, I'm sorry, Rob, I was a little quick for me, but there was going to be a

175
00:12:34,450 --> 00:12:37,170
the culvert for between 10 and 11.

176
00:12:37,470 --> 00:12:38,330
Is that shown?

177
00:12:40,530 --> 00:12:42,070
And that's the sky.

178
00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:43,070
Where are he?

179
00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:44,630
On page 1.

180
00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:46,330
Mr. Abjada says a 15.

181
00:12:46,510 --> 00:12:46,750
15.

182
00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,540
I know Brad is dead. Put it in there.

183
00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:53,900
Okay, I see.

184
00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,200
All right.

185
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,700
I missed that, it was because it's between two flags there.

186
00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:01,320
All right.

187
00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,240
Yeah, no, I'm also.

188
00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:06,340
Anybody else on the board?

189
00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:09,530
Pedro, I'll set.

190
00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:12,390
OK, I'm going to open it up to the public deck.

191
00:13:12,890 --> 00:13:13,910
Do you have any questions?

192
00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:18,510
You can pull up here and state your name and address, OK?

193
00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:23,370
Nobody has any questions or concerns?

194
00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:28,140
All right.

195
00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:35,740
All right, I'm going to make a motion then that we close the public hearing.

196
00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:36,700
I'll check that.

197
00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,240
All in favor?

198
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:37,840
Aye.

199
00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:47,000
And I'm going to make a motion that we issue an orad with the discussed revisions for 154A.

200
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,320
And I'll check that.

201
00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:50,040
All in favor?

202
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,260
Now, the next step, if they plan to do any work on it, they'll be sending out green

203
00:13:57,260 --> 00:13:58,140
cards again.

204
00:13:58,980 --> 00:14:02,760
That'll be for the NOIs, for whatever the work they want to do.

205
00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,620
You'll be gave.

206
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,240
All the embutons again will get notices like you did for this.

207
00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,700
And that'll be for any project that they plan to do on this property.

208
00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:12,220
All right.

209
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:12,680
Thanks, Rob.

210
00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,500
Thank you.

211
00:14:24,950 --> 00:14:33,790
Okay, number three, star holdings, all right this one year, this has, what happened was, we closed

212
00:14:34,570 --> 00:14:40,010
56, 48 went to the street by mistake, there was no SE number.

213
00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:48,220
So what we have to do is we have to rescind the boat, rescind the orders, and then take a new boat by

214
00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:50,760
by stating the SC number, all right?

215
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360
So, do I have to just recent the orders condition?

216
00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:59,500
You've got to make a motion to recent the orders that we've passed for 48 went through.

217
00:14:59,640 --> 00:14:59,960
All right, I'm going to...

218
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,600
Make a motion that now for 48 Winthrop Street, SC-60-1456 that we rescind the orders to conditions.

219
00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,500
Because there was no, SC number.

220
00:15:09,580 --> 00:15:10,760
Because there's no SC number.

221
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:11,760
Second.

222
00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:13,220
All are favor?

223
00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,700
Aye.

224
00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:14,740
Can you vote from there?

225
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,900
Okay. Now for 48 Winthrop Street, SC-60-1456.

226
00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,480
Now that we have the DP number, I'm going to make a motion that we assures conditions.

227
00:15:24,940 --> 00:15:25,560
Y'all second.

228
00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:26,340
All are favor?

229
00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:26,680
Aye.

230
00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,400
Okay. So now we do that formally.

231
00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,520
All right, Boudreau can I be lame?

232
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,140
Do you want to check that out?

233
00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:37,000
Do you want me to do it?

234
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,200
Did you guys want to?

235
00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:39,180
We didn't get to it.

236
00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:40,000
We didn't get to it.

237
00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:40,820
All right.

238
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:41,960
Okay.

239
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,440
All right.

240
00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:45,400
What happened this weekend with the tough weekend?

241
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,560
Steve's away.

242
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,300
Not doing your hard to do a job.

243
00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,320
But he had to get out before the rain.

244
00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:55,280
And obviously, I was too sick to go out.

245
00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:00,120
And by the time they got done with the sight walks that they did,

246
00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,580
they had done one time to do it.

247
00:16:01,580 --> 00:16:03,720
OK, there's two that they could not do.

248
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,880
So you're going to need to continue it.

249
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,100
Yes, one in the next one, or what's the next one?

250
00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:10,960
We did that one.

251
00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:11,600
OK.

252
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,660
OK, they did all the other one.

253
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,580
We did all your wrongs.

254
00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:14,240
This is seven wheel.

255
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,680
We can discuss that.

256
00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:18,100
But let's first continue this.

257
00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,540
That we open the meetings when you continue it, right?

258
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,260
We'll make a motion after 10 out of the lane.

259
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,500
We ran the applicant's request for a continuous until October 6.

260
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,060
All of favor?

261
00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:28,540
All right.

262
00:16:28,540 --> 00:16:29,160
And you're opposed.

263
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,260
OK.

264
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,880
Good

265
00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:42,370
evening Mark Markman with OK-Longing 360 for you to wrap with a little bit of mass.

266
00:16:42,670 --> 00:16:49,730
Representing John DeBally for the applicant in the owner Mary Goldberg for the notice from 10.

267
00:16:49,950 --> 00:16:52,830
To construct a single family home at 67 Wheeler Street.

268
00:16:53,850 --> 00:16:56,930
67 Wheeler Street is a 4.15 acre lot.

269
00:16:57,750 --> 00:17:02,550
There is resource areas on the front in the rear of the property.

270
00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:09,790
We are proposing a single family house, the single family house would be a four-bedroom house with a attach garage.

271
00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:15,330
There is a driveway that's going to stretch from wheel history to the proposed house.

272
00:17:17,450 --> 00:17:23,970
The resource areas that we are working with in is a vegetated wetlands from the north and to the south.

273
00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:25,650
There's no riverfront found on this property.

274
00:17:25,650 --> 00:17:42,650
the proposed areas are we have a septic, a Title V septic found west of the house, and we have our proposed well found south of the house.

275
00:17:44,170 --> 00:17:53,090
There is additional wetlands found for the back, but we are only looking to have an approval on the lines identified above.

276
00:17:54,050 --> 00:18:01,850
So the entire site will be controlled within the resource area in buffer zone by erosion controls.

277
00:18:03,370 --> 00:18:06,510
The post-inscience are indicated as such.

278
00:18:07,290 --> 00:18:12,310
So the nuance to this law is we do have a minor replication area.

279
00:18:13,070 --> 00:18:23,070
The driveway coming back to the area that we have here is going to be taking approximately 260 square.

280
00:18:23,070 --> 00:18:27,350
of vegetated wetlands, the rash,

281
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:33,200
the head all my notes, I think I'll have to move over there.

282
00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:38,400
We had prepared a genetic analysis to define what in the reasons we're doing that.

283
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,320
First off, the, the, the, the resource here comes to a small point.

284
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,280
That point is a steep slope.

285
00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:53,880
So the issues of trying to get around that would be, you know, the radius of that in the driveway

286
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,120
it would be a lot closer to a neighbor.

287
00:18:56,380 --> 00:19:00,480
So the way we engineer this is that we try to maximize the distance

288
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,440
from the neighbor we provided shielding to the neighbor to the west.

289
00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,820
We also are providing grading so that there is a swell

290
00:19:07,820 --> 00:19:10,880
between the neighbor and this driveway to prevent any runoff

291
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,320
from going into the neighbor and property.

292
00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:16,580
So the neighbor to the east as well we have made design

293
00:19:16,580 --> 00:19:22,300
and situations to prevent any sort of runoff to approach

294
00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:22,840
that property.

295
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:29,340
Now, that property is at a higher elevation, but we did intentionally provide swells from the

296
00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:33,860
edge of the driveway that will sheet water away as detailed in these notes found

297
00:19:33,860 --> 00:19:35,000
right here.

298
00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:45,600
The point of which we are taking this wetland area is far too big to be a kettle or anything

299
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,440
that was natural occurring.

300
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,300
It was likely that it increased in size from some gravel activities at some point and it

301
00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:52,100
in this lifetime,

302
00:19:55,020 --> 00:20:04,740
so the 260 square foot little point that we are taking is not strong wetland

303
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:10,600
area and we're creating more of a wetland replication area found on the property and that

304
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,900
buffer zone would need to be affecting our particular property in that case.

305
00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:22,580
The plants that we are proposing are high bush blueberry, winter berry, and sweet pepper bush.

306
00:20:22,860 --> 00:20:25,720
Similar types of agitation that are found in that area.

307
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,840
We are also lowering the grade and elevation to match the existing wetland area.

308
00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:35,900
The wetland soils shall match and be a standard wetland mix.

309
00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:41,160
than it should be overseeded with a New England,

310
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,700
New England wetland, plants wetland and seed mix as well.

311
00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:49,060
Grading considerations have been taken

312
00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:54,240
in account to consider everything surrounding it.

313
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:58,860
I mean, this is a lot that was created in the 60s

314
00:20:58,860 --> 00:21:01,940
and has just not been developed since.

315
00:21:01,940 --> 00:21:11,840
the this land also abuts the rear of Miller bird sanctuary as well. Coming off of

316
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:17,560
of where weel street we are cutting into the grave there and then we are doing

317
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,500
some minor cutering and filling as we come along and trying to keep the

318
00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:27,000
grades as similar coming up. Where the house is proposed is on a higher

319
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:34,200
So we are able to get the house into the ground and then because of that contouring, we then have

320
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,920
Conterered the property to have a partial walkout in this partial section of the basement.

321
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,040
The rest is retained by boulders and rocks.

322
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:51,420
All toe of slope is kept at least 10 feet from a property line and from a form of edited wetland as well.

323
00:21:51,420 --> 00:22:00,400
The well as proposed will be protected also by erosion controls and we'll have the dedicated

324
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,100
slurry pit for that.

325
00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:08,680
Other features we do have a concrete wash-out pit we have the track pad

326
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:17,940
found to the north of the entry coming in and what we see as erosion control also represents

327
00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:22,940
Okay, Dave, you guys want to...

328
00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:28,620
Yeah, Tom, I went and two out of three in the math, but...

329
00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:29,960
...and I...

330
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:38,820
You know, it's interesting, you're talking about the grappling, is they really think about that, because we saw just kind of impressions in the ground there that looked like, oh, of course there were vehicles there, now it makes it, it makes a little sense.

331
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:51,380
It makes sense. And before, as we looked at the plans, you know, we had a small discussion of like, you know, what does that replication area doing like, all the way over there?

332
00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:58,780
But then we got on the site and I think the replication areas is properly located because

333
00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:00,340
because of the contours.

334
00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:00,840
Exactly.

335
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,180
The place where levels out and then comes up.

336
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:10,500
And I mean there's so much water in that system that it should come back pretty quickly.

337
00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:16,320
When you do set up replication areas and in place like that, do you put erosion controls on

338
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520
the uphill side as well as the downhill side?

339
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,120
Oh, you're saying, like, where the post and signs are to be?

340
00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:27,240
We have it in the front side.

341
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,100
And the rose patrols should be in place until ground is stabilized.

342
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,980
So you're protecting the, the further most.

343
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,100
I'm just saying, the representation area is not.

344
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,340
There's no erosion controls between the replication area and the construction.

345
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,200
Right?

346
00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:43,720
No, not in this case.

347
00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:44,000
All right.

348
00:23:44,140 --> 00:23:45,780
Because it's such a small area too.

349
00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:47,020
Okay.

350
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:58,780
You guys have any questions or any concerns?

351
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,120
You're all set.

352
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:02,020
All right.

353
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,100
I don't have anything with it.

354
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,520
Is anybody in the audience?

355
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,060
Yeah.

356
00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:08,720
More no.

357
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Yeah.

358
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,940
You have to get your name and address.

359
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,280
All right.

360
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:22,980
Yes, sir.

361
00:24:26,530 --> 00:24:29,150
So, I'm Nicholas Tergent, my wife Ashley Tergent,

362
00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:30,770
we're 57 French.

363
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:35,370
There's one thing on the planes, I don't see, we look that.

364
00:24:35,550 --> 00:24:37,210
We have, when we bought our house.

365
00:24:37,290 --> 00:24:40,250
From Marigoldberg, they go to both plots, prior.

366
00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:43,890
There's a French train system that runs out into that property.

367
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:45,310
That was told that was...

368
00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:46,030
By property.

369
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:49,250
Can you show us what you're talking about?

370
00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:49,910
It's directly left.

371
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:51,130
It's literally right where the well is.

372
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:54,210
And I think you guys were out there, Sunday.

373
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:57,450
We were out back waiting and we didn't see you come back.

374
00:24:57,850 --> 00:24:59,150
Oh yeah, that was me.

375
00:24:59,690 --> 00:25:01,010
Okay, so

376
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:05,270
where's it?

377
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:06,310
We were right there.

378
00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:08,250
It's on.

379
00:25:08,510 --> 00:25:11,050
We were we were we didn't quite go.

380
00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:12,370
So.

381
00:25:14,670 --> 00:25:15,990
Tell us about this French train now.

382
00:25:16,270 --> 00:25:19,830
So this French train when we were closing on our house.

383
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:22,210
It was shown to us to be on our property.

384
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:24,050
Something that we should maintain regularly.

385
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:26,510
Make sure it's clear that way the water would flow.

386
00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:30,470
It's marked. We were walked out there by the Goldbergs himself the day of the closing.

387
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:34,430
We were shown where it was, how to maintain it, how to clean it out.

388
00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:36,170
So we've been doing that.

389
00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:38,290
And what's as it drains, actually?

390
00:25:38,550 --> 00:25:40,550
Our entire house. So our...

391
00:25:40,550 --> 00:25:43,090
Your house goes in a gutters from your roof.

392
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:46,770
Everything goes under a ground through a French drain.

393
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:49,650
And they all litter the French drain.

394
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:52,350
Is directly next to where the well is proposed.

395
00:25:52,530 --> 00:25:54,750
On that current, can you show us where your house will be located?

396
00:25:57,850 --> 00:26:02,750
about. Right near the well. So are, yep, it's right here. It wears the French

397
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:07,510
Drain Go. The French Drain is about right here. So it, it's a straight

398
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:13,250
shop tour. It was right to the wetlands. Yes. And that was, I don't know, when it

399
00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:18,010
was put in, I have, I'm a first name basis for everybody at the town now, because

400
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:22,710
I've tried to get permits. I've tried to get records, property lines, so our

401
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:28,930
other concern is we have three concerns mainly. Property lines, they're all listed as approximate

402
00:26:28,930 --> 00:26:34,050
boundaries. So we don't know where our actual boundary lines are because when they came and

403
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:39,830
did the survey, they did approximate. So everything's just based on approximate at this

404
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:47,550
point. Our second concern with the pond, we don't have the pond, when they backfill some

405
00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:52,030
of that pond in or build a wall or do anything with the pond, what's that water flow

406
00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:55,590
going to do because our driveway runs directly on the other side of it.

407
00:26:56,530 --> 00:27:00,730
So that water coming, pushing out on the other side, what's that going to do to our drive?

408
00:27:01,130 --> 00:27:03,910
So that one, I think I could put you where we stir as quick.

409
00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:11,390
Because the amount they're taking is about 200 square feet, that's like 20 by 10.

410
00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:15,490
And the amount they're putting in is actually larger than that.

411
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:21,830
So even with it, I mean, you've lost a tiny bit of water storage, but they've actually provided

412
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:28,470
more than that. And that is within our preview and we're satisfied that the water

413
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:30,590
link capacity and that system will not change.

414
00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:39,710
Okay, so that one does get high. So right now it's low but it does get high. So it

415
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:45,550
flows up to the almost the edge of our driveway. Right, the survey that we can't

416
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:51,070
address that. That's a civil thing. That's something else beyond our control.

417
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:54,810
Well, the French drain goes into the wetlands.

418
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:56,090
Well, it doesn't.

419
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:58,690
If you say it goes by the well, that goes by the well.

420
00:27:58,750 --> 00:28:00,270
But she says it goes into the wetlands.

421
00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:01,990
It's probably.

422
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:03,890
It's right out of flag.

423
00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:05,870
It's probably 10 feet off of that.

424
00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:07,010
Where that's marked for the well.

425
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,660
Like, just to give us the number.

426
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:11,840
I'm looking there playing tells.

427
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,680
But what?

428
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,920
So, we walked Rachel and John out there.

429
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,940
So they Rachel marked it with GPS.

430
00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:31,320
So these two flags, which numbers, A6 and A61?

431
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,880
Oh, okay, but outside the airport work.

432
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,280
So it's, we could bring that the airport a little bit more.

433
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,140
So you're seeing it somewhere between.

434
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,380
It's a straight line though.

435
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440
So where you're going to be drilling this well?

436
00:28:44,780 --> 00:28:45,620
I don't know.

437
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,860
We don't know where that part goes.

438
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:51,440
It's like, is, you know what I'm saying, or what it is under there?

439
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,860
This is an interesting key.

440
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:54,840
I'm not.

441
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,900
And then secondary to that, obviously Mark, my concern was, how do we maintain something

442
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,080
that's, you know, now isn't on your property?

443
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,600
I hope so.

444
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,060
When you say, when you say it's a French train, there's an outlet that's going to

445
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:10,600
something that's dug in the ground under the ground.

446
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Can you locate that?

447
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,660
Do you know exactly where it is?

448
00:29:14,660 --> 00:29:15,560
We have a sign on it.

449
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Yeah, we put it on the other side.

450
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:18,800
When you did your water work,

451
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560
what's the little confusing is

452
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,500
two through each, not a French drain.

453
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360
The French drain is installed around the bottom of your foundation.

454
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:28,980
It probably can't refer to some point.

455
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,240
It probably just,

456
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:32,980
a stormwater collection.

457
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:34,900
Yeah.

458
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:36,560
These all of our...

459
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,900
So all of our gutters,

460
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320
there are drains all around the foundation.

461
00:29:40,460 --> 00:29:43,020
So they did have water coming into

462
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,900
57 at some point, and then that's when they had done something in a few minutes.

463
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:55,380
Yeah, and we've been on the chase to try to figure out what was on when we've done, right, all those good things.

464
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,340
How old are you house?

465
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,300
I also studied in the 80s, 84.

466
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,440
And they were the original owners.

467
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:08,840
Do you have any documentation with the deed that says that that's yours and the activity or anything?

468
00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:09,720
No, we don't.

469
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:10,560
We just have some.

470
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,380
I have been writing from Mary's name.

471
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:13,860
We give other people's land away.

472
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,640
I have it.

473
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:24,320
I have it in writing from the the prior homeowner and the owner of this land that that is our drain and that she would ensure that that wasn't.

474
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:24,660
Right.

475
00:30:24,860 --> 00:30:26,100
But there's no easement on it.

476
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,400
No, she'd dated because they owned both lots.

477
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,840
they never did that.

478
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,620
Well, this is really an conservation matter, but we got a mark right here.

479
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:37,060
What do you do for these guys, Mark?

480
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640
I don't know. I got to figure out what you're coming out for elevation.

481
00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:44,260
I mean, we're not trying to stop a bill.

482
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,660
It's just, we want to make sure that we protect.

483
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,060
We just bought the house a year ago.

484
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,760
We just want to make sure we protect.

485
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,240
So it's attached to the gutters, the basement.

486
00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:57,100
We have a de-commitifying system in the basement.

487
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:01,420
and a some pump in the basement that's all attached to that and then all of the gutters and there's

488
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:11,280
um like great in the ground around the foundation and I think the confusion was that they owned

489
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:18,060
you know that the time they go over it's like no big deal but um our well is only four feet off

490
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:22,660
the property line like but they had originally had it listed in the front of the house so there's been

491
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:24,100
I mean, that gets done.

492
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,160
I mean, yeah.

493
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
So they have somewhere around the elevation 38,

494
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,820
but their house is probably seated around the elevation 50.

495
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:36,480
Yeah, and I want to say that stretch is like 86 feet.

496
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,100
Yeah, that's what we're talking about right here, right?

497
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:41,720
Our house is directly next to our well.

498
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:42,940
Yeah, so it's like right here.

499
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:52,640
The only thing I can suggest is you're going to have to get

500
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:59,040
representing John de Valle, the John de Valle is going to sell it, so who knows what the new one is going to do?

501
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920
We've already, you know, John de Valle.

502
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:08,320
This is, this is actually outside of us. This is more of a civil.

503
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,380
This, John.

504
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Hello.

505
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,840
I think, obviously boils down to the elevation.

506
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,980
There was a way to broaden, but we all know what the elevation is all about there.

507
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:27,680
Yeah, so they're 15 here, but they're all getting at 37.

508
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,620
So if it depends upon where it's leading up here.

509
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:37,840
So like, I would have to get into the house to measure, like, where everything was in there.

510
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:43,420
I know I'm just wondering if it could just not get into your whole yacht, close to somewhere over here,

511
00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:45,400
depending on how it drops off.

512
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:47,840
Yeah, I mean...

513
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,500
What do you want to do something like that?

514
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,580
Well, we don't want to move.

515
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,140
Right.

516
00:32:51,140 --> 00:32:52,760
Because everything's functioning the way it is.

517
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:54,020
Well, that's fine.

518
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:56,540
I'm going to work it out with the owners then.

519
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,360
I'm just trying to primate a wheel concern.

520
00:32:58,820 --> 00:32:59,060
Yes.

521
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,480
You probably would want to intercept it at some point in there, right?

522
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:08,260
Because your yard drops to see elevation in the rear.

523
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,880
I mean, if there was something on a recorded plan that showed it a

524
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840
French train to never going to show up on a plan, even from home.

525
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,320
We've had from 10 years ago.

526
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:32,700
I mean, if it was on an easement or a deed, or something like that, so I think the best way would be to try to reroute it, it might be all in a work on that.

527
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:38,740
Yeah, the best thing would be to keep it on your property, like run it like two or three feet off of your property.

528
00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:45,200
In the thing when we put in the markers that set a approximate, we mean that's within like inches.

529
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:52,840
So like for surveyors, we set it with our GPS, so like that's within, you know, a six-inch diameter circle.

530
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:57,160
Yeah, because the angles don't look right. So if you look at the front of the property,

531
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,980
you've got the angles on their side or going this way, but we have, we have monument markers

532
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:06,400
on the other side that are going the opposite way of where your markers are.

533
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,680
So what I can say is that this line ties in with a GB,

534
00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:13,480
which is the work term for a granite found

535
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,420
that we had found in coincides with what's

536
00:34:17,420 --> 00:34:19,760
at Miller bird sanctuary in the corners of all these lots,

537
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:22,160
because I'd have to double check.

538
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:25,900
This is unregistered.

539
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,060
I think your land is registered land, which is land court.

540
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Yep, because if you look at the markers,

541
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:35,800
the way that they're angled, the side comes this way.

542
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,940
our side comes this way so it's I mean I'm you'd have to go out there and take but I

543
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:45,360
mean we've got pictures and videos and again like like I said we've done our

544
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,260
due diligence on our end with council so we ran our survey like I said we were

545
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:56,200
within you know two two tenths of closure or which is like phenomenal or

546
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,640
starting over so I'm pretty certain what we have here is is pretty damn accurate

547
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:13,960
But yeah, I mean this is something that we would need to investigate here to locate and then my recommendation would be to

548
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:20,860
to route it in a manner that would keep it onto your property because it becomes a ordinance.

549
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:27,980
like basically we have to hit if you're if this thing's at elevation see it's

550
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:36,700
so let's say we're at 47, 47, 47, 3 feet down all right it's easier to

551
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:42,900
daylight in that in that way to get it beyond everything here because they

552
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:47,300
but likely follow the contour there's no way that they went in and dug a super deep

553
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,460
to try to get this amount. And less your sump pump leaves like three inches off of floor

554
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:56,600
of your house. You'd be able to answer that button.

555
00:35:57,220 --> 00:36:02,000
You know, I really think that this really isn't a

556
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,760
conservation factor. I mean, whatever solution

557
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,780
come up with is not going to be a narrow weather.

558
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:11,400
Yeah, so basically what we're asking is that this isn't approved right away until there is

559
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,340
further.

560
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,940
You can do that.

561
00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:23,420
Because if this is more of a civil thing, you don't have any wreck, if there's no easement, like, like, marks, uh,

562
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:31,040
without us something like that, you don't have any legal recourse. The only way I can see it is you move this, you move this, you move this on top.

563
00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:34,780
You move your drainage system to a little place.

564
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:38,460
So what I'll do is I'll take the tax passengers from Mary, that and I'll bring that to Mary.

565
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:41,360
We can't hold up a loop. We can't leave the loop.

566
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:47,090
Yeah, I have it from the homeowner those stating that it is art art, so I'll just

567
00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:50,140
If we have to get council we will

568
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:54,540
I think they're right thing by coming by

569
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Like we said, it's not a country

570
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,900
Yeah, hopefully you guys can figure something out. Yeah, thank you

571
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:20,510
Okay, so for 67 Wheeler Street, I'm going to make a motion that we close the public hearing.

572
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:21,350
I'm talking about.

573
00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:21,810
All in favour?

574
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:27,770
And then for 67 Wheeler, I'm going to make a motion that we should order as a condition.

575
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:29,090
All in favour?

576
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:29,970
Perfect.

577
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,640
I can't wait.

578
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:38,960
All right. The silver 29 molten.

579
00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:02,150
Bob, there are the proletty, Mary representing the silver.

580
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:05,650
Are you guys?

581
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,540
Okay.

582
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,780
Based on the last meeting, we revised the plan, showing on the plan view,

583
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:24,980
the four locations where the science will be placed around the B line and the three locations

584
00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:32,120
where they'll be placed on the A line. I also noted that in the detail where the buffer

585
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:41,920
boundary sign is shown on the plan. The second thing that we did was we extended the proposed stone wall

586
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,920
around the well, instead of Timmy at the well, we just

587
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
we brought it back around as requested.

588
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:54,020
Then we added the pump-out area, eight by eight,

589
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,140
eight bail area in the vicinity of the well,

590
00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:00,000
so that during the installation operations,

591
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,000
the slowly can go into that.

592
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
And then the fourth thing was we added the

593
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,860
wrap track pad at the entrance where the driveway is proposed.

594
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Okay, yeah, you did everything we asked.

595
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:19,280
I'm just going to say, is anybody in the audience for the silver?

596
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:22,220
Okay.

597
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,260
Well, you've done everything we asked, Rob.

598
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:24,860
Okay.

599
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:26,300
I don't see any issues alone.

600
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:27,340
I don't need anything.

601
00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:27,980
Yeah, good.

602
00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:29,260
Okay.

603
00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:32,520
Then for 20 AM all time, make a motion that we close the public hearing.

604
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:33,140
Second.

605
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:33,860
All in favour?

606
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,380
Aye.

607
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:34,960
Any opposed?

608
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:39,460
Okay, and for tonight I'm all 10. I'm going to make a motion. The issue order is the conditions.

609
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:42,460
Okay.

610
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:43,060
Thank you.

611
00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:49,930
Okay.

612
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:52,490
Good evening.

613
00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:53,170
177.

614
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:28,190
Good evening.

615
00:40:28,930 --> 00:40:31,290
For the record now, I was able to see if consulting engineers.

616
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:37,210
At the last hearing, I believe the commission had not had a chance to go off to the site.

617
00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:39,550
So I know that was still something that had to be addressed.

618
00:40:40,070 --> 00:40:46,730
And then the only other comment that I believe was brought up was the Wackland Buffer boundary signage,

619
00:40:47,170 --> 00:40:52,490
which we recommended to put them at flags 4, 6 and 8, which I believe we did.

620
00:40:53,730 --> 00:41:00,330
So, I am here to address any questions that you might have other than those.

621
00:41:00,890 --> 00:41:02,350
Are you going to take it?

622
00:41:02,350 --> 00:41:02,730
I don't know.

623
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:07,870
Yep, went out there on the sidewalk on Sunday and flags are properly placed.

624
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:10,050
The project looks good.

625
00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:14,630
There is a little bit of yard debris in the resource area, a little bit towards summer

626
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:19,650
streets, so maybe your applicant can pull that out, but it's a job by hand.

627
00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:21,250
There's like not a lot to it.

628
00:41:23,470 --> 00:41:24,390
Any thoughts, man?

629
00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:25,750
You guys?

630
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:26,990
You guys also?

631
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:27,930
That looks good.

632
00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:33,470
all set. Anybody here for 77 summer street in the audience, questions?

633
00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:41,190
All right, so for summer, 77 summer street, I'm going to make a motion. I'll be close to public hearing.

634
00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:42,710
I'll check in for a favor.

635
00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:48,230
And for 77 summer street, I'm going to make a motion that leash orders condition.

636
00:41:48,670 --> 00:41:48,990
Second.

637
00:41:49,450 --> 00:41:49,890
All the favor?

638
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:51,650
Thank you.

639
00:41:57,030 --> 00:42:01,350
Okay, 80 maids in the street that we hold with the land trust because we did not get a chance to go out there.

640
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:05,850
Um, Dan Colden and he's asking questions to you.

641
00:42:06,350 --> 00:42:06,390
Okay.

642
00:42:06,850 --> 00:42:07,570
So you're going to make a motion.

643
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:14,350
I make a motion that we grant the applicant's request for a continuing for 80 maids in the street until October 6th.

644
00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:16,110
All in favour?

645
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:16,490
Aye.

646
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:17,090
Then you're opposed.

647
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:17,650
Okay.

648
00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:19,730
Mark.

649
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:26,230
This is the number nine,

650
00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:34,900
right?

651
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:41,220
Scott Adams are the Vantage Nering Group representing the applicant's in

652
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:41,580
this.

653
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,880
This is a 31 star lane.

654
00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:49,900
One of the few last remaining developed blocks.

655
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,680
As shown in the drawings, it's a SSS platform, a lot of 58,

656
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:03,620
and has a address of 31 star lane, which is located on the eastern

657
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:07,500
side of Star Lane on a 50 foot wide public right away.

658
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,320
Equal system solutions revisited the site.

659
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,960
They've actually been out there a couple of times now

660
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,380
over the years, but they revisited the site for the wetland line

661
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:16,600
that we're put back.

662
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:19,940
They have a report dated September 8, 2026,

663
00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:23,040
where they placed 15 flags.

664
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Relatively close to center, going north south on the site,

665
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:29,720
which is a two and a half acre residential parcel.

666
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,580
comes up maybe six, seven feet in elevation and kind of levels off.

667
00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:38,610
I'm not sure I try to get all the day and I think he's out obviously this week,

668
00:43:39,110 --> 00:43:42,290
but I'm not sure if the board had a chance to walk this one over the weekend.

669
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:43,950
Yeah, wait a minute.

670
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:51,370
I'll have to answer any questions the board may have right now as was previously discussed.

671
00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:54,130
It's just the approval of the wetland line.

672
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:56,410
And then in the future there will be a single family house.

673
00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:57,770
Hopefully proposed at this location.

674
00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:08,370
So we did go out there on Sunday and we thought that and helped me out that because you were there to ask me.

675
00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:13,750
9 through 12 looked about right and 1 through 8.

676
00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:21,810
Once through 8 and then 13 through 15 seemed to be a little bit far into the wetland.

677
00:44:21,810 --> 00:44:25,870
And it's interesting, because when Dr. Hewittson flagged

678
00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:30,630
this back in 2016 when the subdivision had the anaerad,

679
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:33,110
we pulled up those plans.

680
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:36,490
And we found some pieces of old flag and now we're probably

681
00:44:36,490 --> 00:44:39,830
from that, about 10 years old.

682
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:41,410
And they were a bit uplens.

683
00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:44,730
So we didn't look at the soils then.

684
00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:47,270
We were looking at the vegetation and its apography.

685
00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:50,450
And it's sort of pure, sweet pepper bush.

686
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:59,970
But if you look at the break and slope that fits for 9 through 12, it seems like 1 through 8 and 13 through 15, we're kind.

687
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,700
In the system, and they were below the break of slope. I don't think this is going to stop you from doing your project, but there are some issues with these flags. I think when we go out there, we try to figure out the rationale for the flag.

688
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:21,780
You know, and this was one something where it was just, it was kind of hard to do, I mean

689
00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:25,440
I couldn't tell like Flex, you know, two, three, and four.

690
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:34,160
It looked like everything up, upland from like 15 feet or more looked just the same as what was considered a resource area.

691
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:42,900
So, um, I'd like to, I mean maybe maybe you guys could take a second look, overlay the original

692
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:54,420
or do a little bit more work on the soils, but right now, it's not really looking like an accurate donation to us.

693
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,220
The only soil report we have here is the one that really agreeing with it.

694
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,840
A 10, which is then 9 to 12.

695
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,100
Dave said it was fine.

696
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,620
But he has no other soil logs in the application.

697
00:46:08,620 --> 00:46:14,260
Okay, so just one clear, which, which flags are your 13, 14, 15 with the ones?

698
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,540
No, um, it was, um, 9 through 12, is that right?

699
00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:20,160
Yes.

700
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:28,400
So 9 through 12, we thought the ones north of that and south of that, um, need a little bit of revisiting.

701
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:37,340
And, uh, since it's so much of the pepper bush, using the, um, the vegetation is hard to do.

702
00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:45,780
But the break-and-slope seems to be upland of where your flags are north and south of the ones that we like.

703
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Okay, so 9 through 12 a good and then so 8 through 1 through 8 you're saying 1 through 8 and 13 through 15.

704
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,180
We'd like you to take a fresh look at.

705
00:46:57,260 --> 00:46:59,320
Oh, could you to make a motion on that?

706
00:47:00,930 --> 00:47:02,070
From rusting and you do something.

707
00:47:02,530 --> 00:47:03,350
Well, wait, wait, wait.

708
00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:03,590
Okay.

709
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:08,130
So additional soils information, soils logs and either side of those areas.

710
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:08,390
Yeah.

711
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:11,110
We're going to provide more backup for his.

712
00:47:11,150 --> 00:47:15,910
And if you want to retide the flags, we'll go out there and look, but just some backup on that, all right?

713
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:19,590
Okay. I'll request that from the Wetland Scientist.

714
00:47:20,650 --> 00:47:29,250
Okay. So we're trying to put everything in the form of motion. So what we're asking you to do then is

715
00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:36,230
we're asking you to re-examine once through 8 and 13 through 15. Give us more information on that.

716
00:47:36,990 --> 00:47:38,790
So I'm in that, that's a motion.

717
00:47:39,070 --> 00:47:39,910
I'll second that motion.

718
00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:40,450
All the favour?

719
00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:40,910
All the favour?

720
00:47:41,090 --> 00:47:41,450
All the favour?

721
00:47:41,830 --> 00:47:42,070
OK.

722
00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:45,450
So we'll do that and then you're going to ask for a continuous, right?

723
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:46,150
Yes.

724
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:47,750
We're going to do before we do that.

725
00:47:48,510 --> 00:47:49,390
You here for this?

726
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:51,170
Here we go.

727
00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:52,010
OK.

728
00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:55,610
Did you have any questions or, you heard your questions?

729
00:47:56,090 --> 00:47:56,930
We're 31 strolling.

730
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:58,530
OK.

731
00:47:59,350 --> 00:47:59,410
OK.

732
00:47:59,410 --> 00:47:59,870
All right then.

733
00:48:00,090 --> 00:48:03,970
So for 31 star lane, for the hand red, I'm going to make a motion

734
00:48:03,970 --> 00:48:08,190
that we grant the applicants request ranking to humans until October 6th.

735
00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:09,670
All of a favor?

736
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:10,650
Are you opposed?

737
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:11,290
Okay.

738
00:48:11,650 --> 00:48:12,730
Thank you.

739
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:20,920
All right.

740
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,120
The next thing is discussion of commission regulations.

741
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Thank you.

742
00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:31,240
You all sure?

743
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:37,260
You guys all got what Dan had sent in there.

744
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440
I kind of marked up what I thought would be better idea.

745
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,780
You guys are getting ready?

746
00:48:48,320 --> 00:49:01,930
Well, on the first page there, the respect of submissions made in person by mail, that's fine, that's on the original, that are a, I've got some questions on this.

747
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:09,000
All completed submissions must be received in the conservation of us, no later than we,

748
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Overclock on Wednesday prior to the, he says that the advertising date for the legal advertisement.

749
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:20,000
That doesn't make any sense.

750
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:21,860
I don't think so.

751
00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:23,180
Does it make any sense to you, Joe?

752
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:23,700
No.

753
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:30,000
You've got to take that legal advertisement out and say to the data of the upcoming meeting.

754
00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:32,740
That's what you're trying to say, right?

755
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:33,640
No.

756
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:42,600
When you continue on, they state that advertisements have to be five days before the public.

757
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,260
All the advertisements must be posted at least five business days.

758
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,610
Right. Not coming in the day of the meeting.

759
00:49:52,190 --> 00:49:56,790
So that's that paragraph A. We've got to figure this.

760
00:49:57,170 --> 00:50:00,450
All of the completed submissions must be received in the conservation office.

761
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:08,290
no later than 12 o'clock on the Wednesday prior to the following meeting. How's that?

762
00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:13,930
He's saying the advertising gave for the legal advertisement is the advertisement says when

763
00:50:13,930 --> 00:50:19,010
the meeting is it's that day. If it's on the agenda, I would interpret that,

764
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:32,230
right?

765
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:32,950
Keep thinking.

766
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:54,480
I would change it to prior to the advertised date for the upcoming meeting.

767
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,860
So we're in the, all legal advertisements must be in an all completed submissions, must

768
00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:07,260
receive the conservation, no eaters, and 12 o'clock PM on the Wednesday prior to the

769
00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:08,880
have a tie is done.

770
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,000
I have a tie is date.

771
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,540
I have a tie.

772
00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:13,020
I have a tie.

773
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:13,880
I have a tie.

774
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,820
For the upcoming meeting.

775
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,960
For the upcoming meeting.

776
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,780
Not for the legal advertisement.

777
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,780
For the upcoming meeting.

778
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:41,030
All next paragraph.

779
00:51:41,330 --> 00:51:46,130
All legal advertisements must be published at least five business days prior to the public hearing

780
00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:48,510
or meeting, not counting the day of the meeting.

781
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:55,030
And now this is the one thing that I don't get.

782
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:58,370
And we legally tell them what newspaper to put it in?

783
00:51:59,590 --> 00:52:02,490
So yeah, because it's long as it's publicly advertised.

784
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:06,930
Because the town, you all had that thing there

785
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:10,230
about the hillside, that legal advertisement was the Gazette.

786
00:52:11,790 --> 00:52:13,790
So basically, we've got to reput it back in there

787
00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:18,290
that the taunt in Delhi Gazette, the son chronicle,

788
00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:23,890
or just any, if you just, not say what papers.

789
00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:29,890
I wouldn't say any papers. I would just say a publication serving there.

790
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:43,140
So, on the day of the meeting in the Publications Serving the Town, in the publication serving the town?

791
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Yeah,

792
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:53,480
realize I'm making a decision about this, I go.

793
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,460
Yeah, we're all making this up, because that's the thing.

794
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:08,600
Okay, we'll respect to the revised plans, supporting documents or any additional information documents,

795
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,800
or documents to the commissioner review. All submissions must be received by 3 PM.

796
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:17,080
The Thursday prior to the next schedule meeting of the commission.

797
00:53:18,340 --> 00:53:21,680
That's basically redundant to what you said in A.

798
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:24,560
No, because that has a different time.

799
00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:26,920
I know. That's even worse.

800
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:30,920
Here we've done it in a more on-piece of information.

801
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:33,300
Is it 12 or less?

802
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:34,100
And that's it.

803
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:43,890
It'd be nice if you'd just ask Dan, what's the policy now?

804
00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:44,710
There isn't a policy.

805
00:53:44,890 --> 00:53:45,430
There is nothing.

806
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:47,490
But there's no time now.

807
00:53:47,710 --> 00:53:53,250
I'd say it'd be good to leave the time the same if we could be one thing they don't have to remember.

808
00:53:54,830 --> 00:53:56,110
So what do you want to do?

809
00:53:56,890 --> 00:53:59,870
I don't think you need that section to see at all.

810
00:54:00,170 --> 00:54:03,110
This regards to if it's already been opened.

811
00:54:03,110 --> 00:54:07,110
Yeah, this is the one here where it comes in, this is when it comes in with a revised plan.

812
00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:09,030
Continuation of.

813
00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:09,950
That's what I'm saying.

814
00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:12,090
Oh, because it says already.

815
00:54:12,330 --> 00:54:13,270
All revised plans.

816
00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:14,570
I got it now.

817
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:17,930
Yeah, just to go back for a second to that last one.

818
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:21,690
From the three 10 CMR itself, from the skatelats,

819
00:54:22,290 --> 00:54:25,330
says notices for public meetings or hearings before conservation commission

820
00:54:25,810 --> 00:54:28,430
must appear in a newspaper of general circulation.

821
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:30,110
That's the rex.

822
00:54:31,330 --> 00:54:35,750
It's just re-adrated as I'll use the atom, so I'll read it.

823
00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:37,590
Can you save that?

824
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:38,410
I got it.

825
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:39,230
I'll write it here.

826
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:39,990
You write it, though.

827
00:54:41,130 --> 00:54:43,090
All right, so we're going to keep paragraph C.

828
00:54:44,570 --> 00:54:45,590
This example thing.

829
00:54:45,790 --> 00:54:46,870
I got rid of it.

830
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:50,610
I mean, to me, we don't need to give examples.

831
00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:54,310
For example, we don't need any of that.

832
00:54:56,620 --> 00:55:04,960
OK, applications, and then below a, applications is another thing so that when we get applications

833
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,540
like to get all screwed up, applications plans and other submitted documents must be

834
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:15,060
accurate the time of submission. If there are inaccuracies in any submitted documents,

835
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:19,640
the commission will not close the public hearing or issue any decisions until corrected,

836
00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:24,870
accurate documents are submitted until corrected accurate up. That one's okay. What do you think?

837
00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:31,380
Because that's what we've been having a complaint, they don't prove freedom what they're doing.

838
00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:34,960
You guys have any issues with that paragraph?

839
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:43,470
What happens if the applicant doesn't ask for a read and extension?

840
00:55:44,350 --> 00:55:45,030
Then it's denied.

841
00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:47,850
But we don't say whether on the deny it here.

842
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:52,670
We must say that we're gonna keep

843
00:55:53,390 --> 00:56:00,190
Okay, so then we should put down the applicant to ask for a continuous applicant must ask for a continuous.

844
00:56:24,330 --> 00:56:31,010
Then on the mass page, if at the public hearing, the commission requires changes to the submitted plans or additional information and documents.

845
00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:35,670
The applicant must submit the required materials prior to the review.

846
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,880
Isn't that kind of what we did on the other one?

847
00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:42,920
That's redundant.

848
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,060
OK.

849
00:56:47,620 --> 00:56:48,840
OK. So,

850
00:56:56,010 --> 00:56:57,030
how should we do this?

851
00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:01,530
You know, obviously we can't vote on the way it's right now because it's all, probably got.

852
00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:03,750
And we can vote for next. What's that?

853
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:07,250
We can live for next meeting to get a fresh copy of this thing.

854
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:09,890
We'll write it up and then vote on it.

855
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:10,210
Yes.

856
00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:13,070
There's that little item on there.

857
00:57:13,850 --> 00:57:16,850
Did you find out about the executive session?

858
00:57:17,650 --> 00:57:18,710
We don't need it.

859
00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:21,790
We don't need it.

860
00:57:23,050 --> 00:57:30,250
Okay, okay, let's do the lawyer called Rob and then it's like you don't even like in a session.

861
00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:32,490
So it's your morning.

862
00:57:34,330 --> 00:57:37,050
Oh, oh, oh, there's no whole bar discussion.

863
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:38,370
It's tough.

864
00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:38,790
It's tough.

865
00:57:40,610 --> 00:57:42,570
It's tough negotiating on TV.

866
00:57:43,130 --> 00:57:43,790
Oh, no kidding.

867
00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:45,770
I was kind of stern to myself.

868
00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:48,810
But so I'll write this up.

869
00:57:48,810 --> 00:57:53,690
do we make a motion for you exactly what we've the draft, I think we should wait.

870
00:57:54,670 --> 00:58:01,430
Now, I'm not going to vote on the actual thing, but just we don't need to, we don't need to make a motion for to revise it.

871
00:58:01,450 --> 00:58:01,990
I don't think so.

872
00:58:02,070 --> 00:58:02,330
I don't think so.

873
00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:04,110
All right.

874
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,460
Does that take care of that?

875
00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:17,070
The next thing is 72-warn Street.

876
00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:22,450
I don't have any information on what it looks like to see us here or not.

877
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:23,550
All right.

878
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:24,470
So we have to wait for Dan.

879
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:26,990
Yeah, did you go out with there?

880
00:58:28,030 --> 00:58:29,110
The Dan ever call you?

881
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:34,850
Because he was supposed to be the hook up with you or Steve.

882
00:58:37,290 --> 00:58:37,490
All right.

883
00:58:38,730 --> 00:58:40,830
So we'll have to just table that,

884
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:42,950
make a motion to table it until the next meeting.

885
00:58:43,930 --> 00:58:44,710
All right, I'll make a motion.

886
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:47,830
We table the discussion on the request for the CSE

887
00:58:47,830 --> 00:58:49,390
for 72 Martin Street.

888
00:58:50,110 --> 00:58:50,610
All right.

889
00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:53,090
The Healthside Country Club thing,

890
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:54,710
that shouldn't even be on the agenda.

891
00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:58,850
Because we don't go to, we don't bid on options.

892
00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:02,190
So make a motion.

893
00:59:02,810 --> 00:59:07,410
Well, it has an easement, so.

894
00:59:07,450 --> 00:59:10,110
Once I talked to Rob, he said,

895
00:59:10,410 --> 00:59:12,670
I don't even know why this was on the agenda.

896
00:59:12,730 --> 00:59:17,610
Not saying that now, but if once the bidding closes on the auction,

897
00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:19,150
we'll probably have a chance.

898
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:20,630
No, because it's not at 61.

899
00:59:21,070 --> 00:59:22,410
It's not in anything like that.

900
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:23,490
No, I'm surprised.

901
00:59:23,490 --> 00:59:25,190
It's not 61B.

902
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:28,130
OK, taxes on that.

903
00:59:28,350 --> 00:59:28,370
Why?

904
00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:30,110
That's nice.

905
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:30,950
Yep.

906
00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:31,790
I know idea.

907
00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:36,490
OK, so...

908
00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:39,710
Pick a vote that no action is required.

909
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:41,410
All right.

910
00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:44,250
Make a motion that we take no action and he'll say a country code.

911
00:59:44,450 --> 00:59:44,730
Second.

912
00:59:45,310 --> 00:59:45,670
Oh, favor?

913
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:46,790
OK.

914
00:59:47,470 --> 00:59:48,910
Review submitted proposals.

915
00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:50,770
All right, guys.

916
00:59:52,790 --> 00:59:53,170
Let's go.

917
00:59:56,550 --> 00:59:59,530
You have, I want you to take the lead on this debate.

918
01:00:00,110 --> 01:00:03,330
Anybody else, you know, abstain's go?

919
01:00:05,330 --> 01:00:07,850
Well, I looked at both of them.

920
01:00:08,110 --> 01:00:11,650
I think I ended up meeting that.

921
01:00:12,370 --> 01:00:13,850
The one from

922
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:18,640
the people named here.

923
01:00:21,770 --> 01:00:23,750
I mean, that hit the door with a P.

924
01:00:24,410 --> 01:00:25,050
What's that?

925
01:00:25,070 --> 01:00:26,470
The hit that the one with a P.

926
01:00:27,130 --> 01:00:28,410
No, the other one.

927
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:31,180
Okay.

928
01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:32,800
Go ahead.

929
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,860
And that's not in response.

930
01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:45,000
I mean, all the things we asked for, half of them that put them back on, they wanted to do it like, they want us to flag the wetlands, and want us to get a survey.

931
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:55,800
Hell, they're going to do it. So, par is a full disclosure. I used to work for par.

932
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:02,260
years ago, 25 years ago, and I've got nothing to do with them and I haven't for a while,

933
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:11,200
but I think a positive proposal and format is probably the best you're going to expect,

934
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:25,100
like the RFP we put together, you know, I mean, they're going to come to their ass, you

935
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,320
I know he's going to sign up for that.

936
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:29,780
So looking at it,

937
01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:35,380
40,000 dollars to do the work.

938
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,500
Therefore, remember, we're not going to have a design after this.

939
01:01:38,580 --> 01:01:41,740
All we're going to have to do is have an engineer call us.

940
01:01:42,140 --> 01:01:44,460
This is what's possible out there.

941
01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:46,340
And this is about what it's going to cause.

942
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,960
Wait, which one of these stood 40,000?

943
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:49,960
I don't know.

944
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:50,360
Here.

945
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,920
Ocaro-Sportia.

946
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,440
There.

947
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,600
Ocaro-Sportia.

948
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:04,720
Yes.

949
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:05,360
Par.

950
01:02:05,860 --> 01:02:06,320
riv.

951
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,780
It was Ocaro.

952
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,780
It was.

953
01:02:08,780 --> 01:02:08,900
Yes.

954
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:10,780
What about that?

955
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,620
It's a different scope of work.

956
01:02:15,220 --> 01:02:17,460
The fact that the bill don't break.

957
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:19,620
Okay, let's go.

958
01:02:20,660 --> 01:02:22,320
Here's the whole book on.

959
01:02:22,660 --> 01:02:24,060
Okay, the numbers.

960
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,700
That's fair for both of them.

961
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Oh, it was a bar more.

962
01:02:32,850 --> 01:02:34,090
Yeah, so they're talking 20.

963
01:02:34,990 --> 01:02:36,490
In that round, yeah.

964
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:37,610
Yeah, 18 nine.

965
01:02:37,870 --> 01:02:38,230
I'm replying.

966
01:02:39,070 --> 01:02:39,730
I mean, posky.

967
01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:40,570
12,000.

968
01:02:40,750 --> 01:02:41,550
I'm off with a survey.

969
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:42,670
Bill's end to the issue.

970
01:02:42,810 --> 01:02:43,110
He's not.

971
01:02:44,410 --> 01:02:46,990
So, you've done,

972
01:02:46,990 --> 01:02:50,210
Not only 12, we used to get 18,000 for the top bowl.

973
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:52,070
We used another 8,000 for the top bowl.

974
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:57,310
Well, oh, Kills got existing conditions survey plan.

975
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:58,630
That's part of their scope.

976
01:02:58,790 --> 01:03:03,910
That's at the last page, the existing condition serving survey plan,

977
01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:06,090
and then they have an engineering plan.

978
01:03:12,010 --> 01:03:13,050
You see it?

979
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Yeah, send the sound at the top.

980
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:27,350
Right next to your top.

981
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:29,090
So, we just passed it down.

982
01:03:29,110 --> 01:03:30,110
Well, I got to write my hands.

983
01:03:30,310 --> 01:03:31,570
I'm just too old to get the pages.

984
01:03:31,570 --> 01:03:34,330
All right,

985
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:50,380
yeah, they're only doing a perimeter survey in picking up the flags hung by the commission.

986
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,000
Okay.

987
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,060
What do you call the perimeter survey? You mean the boundary survey?

988
01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:56,940
The boundary survey?

989
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,100
They've already surveyed that.

990
01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:00,640
They did that a while back.

991
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,560
Well, they're not saying a meets and bounds survey.

992
01:04:06,980 --> 01:04:09,380
They're calling it an existing commission survey.

993
01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:14,820
This is OK.

994
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:15,760
This is OK.

995
01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:21,560
Says, Survey will be isolated.

996
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,620
This is page two of their proposal.

997
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,260
Survey will be isolated to the area of interest in area of work.

998
01:04:27,860 --> 01:04:30,560
Our understanding is the path will start at REVE Street

999
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,000
and terminate in the current parking area that is accessed

1000
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:36,040
on water stream.

1001
01:04:36,380 --> 01:04:39,120
So they're talking about the path.

1002
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,460
I want to bring that up.

1003
01:04:42,460 --> 01:04:45,520
I don't understand both of them.

1004
01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:48,840
Oak heel and par are only doing the pad.

1005
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:52,160
When the letter stated clearly, the whole property.

1006
01:04:52,820 --> 01:04:56,120
Well, so here, again, this is Oak heel's scope.

1007
01:04:57,620 --> 01:05:00,800
Under surveying, they have number one performed D.D. research

1008
01:05:01,660 --> 01:05:04,220
to perform baseline, traverse, survey,

1009
01:05:04,420 --> 01:05:05,600
to capture existing additions.

1010
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:08,960
Three, run perimeter survey around the property

1011
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,080
to achieve a modernized survey.

1012
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:18,560
And then under that number three, a capture of the flags hung by the commission, the topographic survey,

1013
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:26,240
c-existing conditions, including about not limited to easements, existing parking, existing trails,

1014
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,580
any utilities found on the property.

1015
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,980
And then this makes sense to you, Tom, not to make a survey.

1016
01:05:33,980 --> 01:05:41,940
will be on NAVD 88, and NAVD 83, the data measurement user, okay.

1017
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:48,800
And then two, produce an existing condition plan based on the findings found about.

1018
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,280
So that's the survey piece, and then below that there's a little description of the engineering

1019
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,300
that they're proposing.

1020
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:01,420
And then it has additional conditions, if we items are requested, so I'm guessing that there

1021
01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:02,580
will be an additional cost.

1022
01:06:02,580 --> 01:06:03,580
What is that?

1023
01:06:04,220 --> 01:06:04,640
Page 3.

1024
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Additional items if we question.

1025
01:06:14,780 --> 01:06:15,000
Right.

1026
01:06:21,770 --> 01:06:27,070
Item is not included topographical survey, but I thought you said that they did a topographical

1027
01:06:27,070 --> 01:06:29,510
survey in the previous page.

1028
01:06:29,710 --> 01:06:31,110
It's certainly like a modernized.

1029
01:06:31,150 --> 01:06:32,190
Yeah, no matter what one.

1030
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:34,430
So I think that's getting them into GIS.

1031
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:35,390
Yeah.

1032
01:06:35,890 --> 01:06:36,270
Oh, total.

1033
01:06:36,590 --> 01:06:37,630
That can be.

1034
01:06:37,630 --> 01:06:44,830
Page two it says survey topographic survey, and then on page three not included topographical survey

1035
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:47,270
I don't know if that means

1036
01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:54,610
stamped plans

1037
01:06:55,330 --> 01:06:59,010
Well, I thought that to treat you to what no matter what is a stamp plan.

1038
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:13,500
All right

1039
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,980
My sense on this Bob is to

1040
01:07:18,220 --> 01:07:24,100
Found in the expertise of Tom who has win more experience than I do

1041
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,500
with his kind of work and if he's

1042
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:29,960
more comfortable with one vendor than the other than...

1043
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:41,890
I feel like a baby is a winter time. This is the same time. You do this all the time. Do you want to get them in here to talk to them?

1044
01:07:41,930 --> 01:07:46,670
Who part? You question? You get bolder than they do. Who be? Who be? Who be?

1045
01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:51,290
Happy's a clam that they got you all listened for, for an interview.

1046
01:07:53,090 --> 01:07:54,350
What do you want?

1047
01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:00,620
I got a couple of questions I'd like to ask par. Okay.

1048
01:08:00,620 --> 01:08:08,620
You know, in a session like this, just say, hey, what about this, just to kind of nail them down more than anything.

1049
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,940
Because the engineer's a great, you know, be it the right thing in a certain way.

1050
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,620
But they don't really mean me, I'm like politicians, they don't really mean what you think they mean.

1051
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:27,560
You think you're getting a toe ball, but you're not really getting a toe ball unless you pay extra.

1052
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:33,440
Okay, that's all we need for total kind of come up, so I just go through and get a list of questions

1053
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:36,420
All right, you are going to do top all the whole site, right?

1054
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,020
Okay, so that's something

1055
01:08:38,020 --> 01:08:42,480
You know, that's almost like a heritage thing. We're going to keep that forever, right?

1056
01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:44,740
I mean, how often do you top all with like that size?

1057
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:51,120
Once, yeah, once and never again, and so I think that's part of that way

1058
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,740
Do you think it makes sense to talk to both of these guys that we've been down?

1059
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:04,840
I'm going to make a motion then that we have Dan arrange a time for them to come in during one of our

1060
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:10,740
Hong Kong meetings to discuss the proposal because they've already done a Zoom meeting with Dan.

1061
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,220
That was what when they called Dan called me 1215 for 1230 meeting.

1062
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,780
I have no idea what they talked about because they couldn't get on it.

1063
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:19,940
Yeah.

1064
01:09:19,940 --> 01:09:21,160
I'll chuck it out.

1065
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,240
I think coming in here, so everybody can talk to him as a better idea.

1066
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,500
All right, all in favor?

1067
01:09:28,740 --> 01:09:29,160
All right.

1068
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:31,620
All right.

1069
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:35,620
Here's the next question.

1070
01:09:38,540 --> 01:09:45,740
Because they didn't do, because they didn't put up a cost analysis or whatever for the entire project.

1071
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:54,220
I'm wondering if we shouldn't think about as soon as we accept the trade, you know,

1072
01:09:54,220 --> 01:10:00,180
Get them going. We don't immediately send out another RFP because the problem I'm seeing here

1073
01:10:00,740 --> 01:10:03,260
If we just stick to this one and not

1074
01:10:03,260 --> 01:10:07,160
See going on the rest of the property you're going to have two in our ads

1075
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:13,360
You don't know. It's going to happen if we can at least get the engineering done on the entire property

1076
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,340
You want to be easy to get the grants and everything else

1077
01:10:15,940 --> 01:10:20,620
I'm not going to delineate the entire property if I don't know if I don't have a guarantee

1078
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,500
Engineering is done on the entire property because that's a lot of delineating

1079
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,120
I don't want to go out there and do it all and then find out, well, we're not going to get the rest of it done for five years.

1080
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:33,000
Well, it's not going to get done.

1081
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:41,940
So maybe since they didn't do the whole property, as soon as we get a contract from one, we send out another RFP.

1082
01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:44,020
We finish the job.

1083
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,780
Can we even tie our own flags?

1084
01:10:47,620 --> 01:10:50,600
Seems like a little bit of a conflict, doesn't it?

1085
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,720
You're a cod-com, and you want to take half a piece of property, you good?

1086
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,220
Well, what happens in the view?

1087
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:07,840
On that part there, Dad, what's going to happen is we can't file for this property ourselves.

1088
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,580
The end of it, we can't do the end of it.

1089
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:18,520
What will happen is this forestry is going to file a file for the end of it.

1090
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:24,520
So, if I do, I think that I can do it in a few, if you guys feel that it's a conflict

1091
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,940
for me doing the flagging.

1092
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,680
Yeah, it probably isn't, you know.

1093
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:37,300
I mean, because what, well, where the conflict will be is, you guys are going to be verifying

1094
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,680
the flagging that I did.

1095
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,340
That may make it a conflict.

1096
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,060
That's something that I've been thinking about.

1097
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:53,160
Because if forestry flags it, it does the airport, does the inred, you guys are going to be

1098
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,790
verifying the inred. So maybe it will be a conflict if I go out.

1099
01:12:02,710 --> 01:12:04,090
So do you think we should hire somebody?

1100
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:10,220
Well, let's get through these consultants.

1101
01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:16,410
for a reading possible, they're flagging a wetland for us.

1102
01:12:16,570 --> 01:12:19,090
I thought that I didn't read that, I think that they did.

1103
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:20,970
You guys were going to buy it.

1104
01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:23,210
I thought it was said that they would,

1105
01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:41,340
they make it.

1106
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:47,000
Well, power will support the conservation commission staff to delineate wetland resource areas.

1107
01:12:53,740 --> 01:12:59,040
Well, that's the thing we could pick up, because actually, you know, we still haven't got a contract.

1108
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,960
So yeah, and then let's think about this for a second.

1109
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:09,280
If we were to delineate the whole southern half of the property, that's not part of the path now,

1110
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:15,360
if you wanted to get all those done, all the bank, all the BVW down in that southern part,

1111
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:24,060
that is a, I mean, it's not, that's a big job of survey, that's way bigger than we're talking about.

1112
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:30,200
It's bigger than the trail, that's the way to, yeah, but it's part of the project.

1113
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:39,620
If you've got to put a park all the way to the end, like you and I walked, you've got to, you've got to verify, you've got to delineate the resource area.

1114
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:46,300
If you're going to be working, no matter where you work on that property, you're working in the right area in zone.

1115
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:51,040
If you're, if you're, yeah, if you're trying to construct a path.

1116
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,920
And that's a noble thing to do.

1117
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,760
Well, for the entirety of the property?

1118
01:13:55,060 --> 01:13:57,080
Yeah, you have picnic areas down there and everything else.

1119
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:03,220
So you have a place that people can actually walk rather than walking 300 yards that can walk

1120
01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:08,140
or have parties and do their picnic and their family events, fishing, and they'll be fishing

1121
01:14:08,140 --> 01:14:10,900
on that part because that's actually probably a better early to go fishing.

1122
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:17,820
I mean, if there's a concern, we should talk about it and look at it and see what it should.

1123
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,280
I don't even know how many of you guys have been to the southern part.

1124
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:23,400
I've been days been.

1125
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:24,760
Who else has been there?

1126
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:25,200
Nobody.

1127
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,140
So maybe going out there wouldn't be a bad idea.

1128
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,900
If you're going to concerns about it,

1129
01:14:34,610 --> 01:14:34,750
dude.

1130
01:14:35,230 --> 01:14:43,730
Yeah, I mean, when we had open space with public access, I mean, a lot of it is just trails

1131
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:50,230
that used to be deer rubs, you know, none of them were ADH or ADH, but if you're talking

1132
01:14:50,230 --> 01:14:55,510
about an ADH accessible trail, because they're just talking about, oh, kills only talking

1133
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:59,430
from one parking lot in those parts of the road.

1134
01:15:00,050 --> 01:15:04,090
That's like that's not even a quarter of what you're talking about.

1135
01:15:04,910 --> 01:15:06,850
Our letter had stated the whole property.

1136
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:13,670
Our request stated the whole property for some reason, the two.

1137
01:15:14,030 --> 01:15:19,870
So if that's what we decide as a commission to do, we're going to have to get a new proposal.

1138
01:15:20,750 --> 01:15:21,350
We're going to have to.

1139
01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:23,410
We're going to do this one now.

1140
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:26,730
And then get another proposal after that.

1141
01:15:26,730 --> 01:15:33,330
Okay, all right, we're going to try to get those guys in here and that'll be our next step.

1142
01:15:33,630 --> 01:15:34,850
How are the every three fields?

1143
01:15:35,970 --> 01:15:36,790
All right,

1144
01:15:41,550 --> 01:15:44,610
open space plan, yeah, I've got nothing.

1145
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:53,650
Oh, yeah, yeah, the agricultural fair was supposed to be next Saturday and because there's

1146
01:15:53,650 --> 01:15:59,690
going to be a Northeastern party has asked us permission to move it to the October 3rd, I don't

1147
01:15:59,690 --> 01:16:01,590
You see any reason why we can't do that.

1148
01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:03,670
You guys, do you have any issues with that?

1149
01:16:04,750 --> 01:16:06,510
It's not on the agenda so we can't vote,

1150
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:08,250
but I told them to go ahead.

1151
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:09,810
You have you with that?

1152
01:16:14,710 --> 01:16:15,510
All right.

1153
01:16:16,110 --> 01:16:18,810
And at the, at the fair,

1154
01:16:19,210 --> 01:16:21,670
the open space committee is going to have a table.

1155
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:24,190
Try to get all chairs and everything else.

1156
01:16:25,090 --> 01:16:27,050
We're in some proposals, there's no news.

1157
01:16:27,690 --> 01:16:29,930
And he updates, and I just said it

1158
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:36,750
in the office or Francis Farm Road, do you guys

1159
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:39,330
anything see anything's going on there?

1160
01:16:39,490 --> 01:16:39,650
No.

1161
01:16:39,770 --> 01:16:41,590
All right.

1162
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:45,190
And I did nothing to talk about the other ones, the minutes.

1163
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:47,070
The minutes were, well, actually.

1164
01:16:48,590 --> 01:16:49,530
Yeah, the minutes were fine.

1165
01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:52,250
Thank you.

1166
01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:53,230
You guys good?

1167
01:16:53,230 --> 01:16:53,670
All right.

1168
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:56,850
Make a motion that we accept the minutes of September 8.

1169
01:16:57,150 --> 01:16:57,330
Shall we?

1170
01:16:57,670 --> 01:16:58,190
All in favour?

1171
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:58,910
All right.

1172
01:16:59,210 --> 01:17:00,910
All right.

1173
01:17:00,910 --> 01:17:02,430
You guys have anything?

1174
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:04,190
Make a motion or what you're on?

1175
01:17:10,830 --> 01:17:12,730
We're going to have to come up with.

1176
01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:18,900
We've already voted for closing here.

1177
01:17:19,660 --> 01:17:20,400
No, no, we didn't.

1178
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,080
We didn't.

1179
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:22,920
We didn't finish up.

1180
01:17:23,060 --> 01:17:24,340
And you're going to stick your name on that.

1181
01:17:24,340 --> 01:17:27,380
Yeah, John Collette, one, 10 pairs, I was just wondering what property

1182
01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:28,320
you talking about with trails.

1183
01:17:28,380 --> 01:17:32,260
We have, we have what's called the Savoy Conservation Area.

1184
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,540
You know a shadow factory dam?

1185
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,020
Yes.

1186
01:17:34,420 --> 01:17:37,960
And across the road there, we own nine acres over there.

1187
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,920
I didn't know that.

1188
01:17:39,140 --> 01:17:43,960
And there's a trail that goes along the river, and it is in bad, bad shape, but what we

1189
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:49,700
want to do is build the first Americans with disabilities act, trail system back there.

1190
01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:52,020
That's a huge project.

1191
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:58,040
So right now we've got proposals from a couple engineering firms on engineering.

1192
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,000
That makes sense.

1193
01:17:59,340 --> 01:17:59,820
I don't know.

1194
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:00,180
I don't know.

1195
01:18:00,180 --> 01:18:01,620
I don't know.

1196
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:04,880
So the trails are on a wetland, right?

1197
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:19,560
So if we do anything to like to put a boardwalk where hand rails, you know, for a disabled people to go, we have to go through an entire permitting process and then a design process to make sure it's safe and that's the compliance with a lot.

1198
01:18:20,140 --> 01:18:29,640
So it's really involved and we're choosing between a couple of companies that we do the surveying piece and engineering plan for the trail.

1199
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,280
That's what we're talking about now.

1200
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,260
I mean, we want to do it, because this is the first ABA trail in the whole with.

1201
01:18:36,380 --> 01:18:37,040
No, we want to do it.

1202
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,600
Anybody that has a disability can use it.

1203
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:39,740
Right.

1204
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:42,380
So, but it's a lot of work.

1205
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:43,620
Sounds like it.

1206
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,840
Yeah, thank you.

1207
01:18:45,020 --> 01:18:45,240
Sure.

1208
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:45,840
Thanks, John.

1209
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:46,900
Okay.

1210
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,640
That'll we can talk about.

1211
01:18:53,020 --> 01:18:54,360
We've got a second.

1212
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:57,970
We've got a second.

1213
01:18:57,970 --> 01:18:58,090
We've got a second.

1214
01:18:58,090 --> 01:18:58,570
Somebody second.

1215
01:18:58,730 --> 01:18:59,430
I second.

1216
01:19:00,250 --> 01:19:00,790
All in favour?

1217
01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:01,230
Hi.