[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:07] Good evening, everybody. It is October 27th, and this is the town right back regular town board meeting. Anybody move like to say the footage from this day in the country. [0:21] to the United States and America, and to the Republic for which is France, one nation [0:29] undergone, is even visible with liberty to be just this world. [0:37] May I have a motion for a part of actually going to bundle these all together for approval [0:43] of prior minutes from September 29, 2025, special meeting minutes from October 7, 2025, special [0:50] meeting minutes from October 14th, 2025. [0:54] Special meeting minutes from October 21st, 2025. [0:57] Most please, thank you, Johnson Man, this second. [0:59] Thank you, Alan, are there any changes? [1:04] Did changes, questions, concerns coming in [1:06] the downboard of my clothes? [1:07] Nope. [1:08] On-line favor? [1:09] On-line. [1:10] Any pose, passes unanimously? [1:13] We still, oh, we're having our budget public hearing. [1:16] We moved into one PM on November 3rd, due to noticing [1:20] reasons? [1:22] Yes. [1:23] Thank you. [1:26] Following local public hearings are still open, pertaining to local law to be decided of [1:34] 2025 for our zoning amendments, and local law of 2025 for the import traffic. [1:40] I am going to assume that we're holding open the vehicle of the traffic to our next [1:45] We'll take this at the end of the meeting, the green line, what we want to change, and then I'll [1:50] like a barcode. [1:51] I'm going to hope, open the public hearing for vehicle and traffic until our November. [1:58] What is it, 24th meeting, Joe? [2:00] I believe so. [2:02] But if anybody wants to say anything, we'll take comments. [2:04] Please know that it is going to be a step, step, step, step. [2:08] It's going to be a change. [2:09] We're going to take out any jail time, Tom Trell. [2:15] at least I think that's what some of the board members wanted to say. [2:19] To say how the final vote goes on this. [2:23] Does anybody have any comments on our local law? [2:26] She decided to 2020 by recording the ZOMD documents. [2:30] And if you go to tab, that's where it is. [2:34] tab, tab, tab, tab, tab, tab. [2:35] Those are our last meeting. [2:37] Can you do anything more? [2:38] I think you've already talked about it and discussed it. [2:41] There's nothing that we want to say, correct, correct. [2:43] So they tell them over because we waited about just 20, 20 boards to get back to us on [2:48] referrals. [2:49] They have, it's considered exams when they had no other comments. [2:52] Matter of local issue, or it says that it's an exam, right? [2:56] So, and they offer no other things. [2:58] Never says that. [2:58] They go plea from WAC. [3:00] So you have to take action, so then there's no, and not so everybody gets no comments. [3:04] Yep, exactly. [3:05] So we're good to go. [3:06] Any comments from anybody in the audience? [3:10] audience. Any town for losers? No. [3:17] If the thumbs up from a former supervisor. [3:21] So I'd like to make the motion to close the public hearing for tab one [3:25] local law to be decided of 2025 a local, [3:29] amending and strengthening certain enforcement traditions [3:31] and chapters, 125, the tenor line, but code, the tenor line, [3:35] big zombie law. They have a motion to close the public hearing. [3:39] Thank you, Chad. [3:39] That's my second, thanks, data. [3:43] Favorite closing in public hearing? [3:45] All right. [3:46] I passed it unanimously. [3:47] Let's go to tab five. [3:49] We have a draft resolution. [3:53] Yep, and included in that resolution. [3:56] Also, let me bring it to the court first. [3:58] I may have a motion to adopt local law to be decided [4:02] of 2025 or your zoning amendments. [4:06] I'm making a strengthening certain enforcement provisions [4:08] of chapter 120, but the level of the time of my bank account goes to the time of my [4:12] bank zone in Korea, the evolution of the conversion. Thank you, Dan, may I have a second. [4:18] Thank you. We got that. Great. That had come. I just wanted to [4:22] disappoint that Hendick's A of the Resolution Inclusive Seeker, as it includes a part [4:28] two, the EAS part two. I have drafted that, but there's no impact because there's no changes [4:34] in my agency's law. [4:36] So I dropped a link that resolution as well. [4:39] It's going to be incorporated into the document solution. [4:42] Any comments, questions, or concerns in the teleporter [4:45] on the Adobe resolution for a local law? [4:49] Any comments, questions, or concerns for anyone [4:51] in the audience? [4:54] But we have to vote by a vote, by a vote, [4:58] direct, correct, correct. [5:00] So I almost pretty much know your names. [5:03] It's like a road here, but I'm going to follow the resolution. [5:12] Okay, but it's not here by voice, Alan Scher, [5:18] John C. Walker. [5:21] Chad White. [5:22] Hi. [5:24] Dana Culling, Peterson. [5:27] And Liz, this Benzio, I vote yes as well, passes by those unanimously passes. Thank you. [5:33] Thank you. Thank you. [5:35] Thank you. [5:36] That was easy. [5:38] Holding up in the, and so that's done. [5:42] I announced that a holding up in history in four, [5:46] have six. [5:48] Higher support for the building department resolution, [5:51] twenty-five, twenty-five, twenty-four, [5:53] twenty-five, twenty-four, twenty-one. [5:53] May I have a motion? [5:55] Thank you, Chad. [5:56] At these, I think, two seconds. [5:58] For the public, I want to disclose that we [6:00] all students and as my son, he applied [6:02] for a part-time temporary job in the building department. [6:05] And I am re-chusing myself from voting on this. [6:09] Johnson, we can take over the voting for this. [6:12] Very much emotion. [6:14] We did it on the floor. [6:15] All right. [6:17] We did it. [6:18] Any questions, comments, concerns? [6:21] I'll make the comment that I totally owe a little bit. [6:25] I think we're like it, we'll let it get some help from it. [6:28] Anybody else? [6:29] Thank you. [6:30] Yeah. [6:31] We need help in it. [6:33] Any other comment? [6:34] All in favour? [6:36] I'm on. [6:38] Aye. [6:38] Post. [6:40] That's it. [6:41] You may return. [6:43] I don't think we'll pass it. [6:44] Thank you. [6:45] Thank you. [6:49] Pretty good. [6:53] You lost my place. [6:55] Okay. [6:57] I'm sorry. [6:58] We held up a test three and four. [6:59] We'll come back. [7:00] We just did some. [7:01] Thank you. [7:03] We do because the local law and Kim is leaving. Thank you, Kim. [7:08] I'll make the motion for 2025 to 42 for the Duchess County Solid Waste Textile Collection program. [7:14] May I have a second? [7:16] Sorry. [7:17] I don't know if you guys read this, but it's just great. It's just another opportunity [7:21] now to have to go into the landfill. [7:23] So whatever we can do here at town, have to have a collection box. [7:27] I know that I'm always coming. [7:32] I think this is great that the county is doing it before court. [7:39] Any questions from anyone on board? Any questions from anyone on board? [7:46] I just want to comment that Dan and I are a Blair, the Dutchers County controller, [7:52] except that this is the hot new recycling right now, and so it has a place to go, it's not like it's just going to go to the landfill. [8:01] It's not going in the land, but it's going in some places. [8:03] But we like, there's a lot of phantom recycling, so it's good to manage this. [8:07] Thank you. [8:08] Thank you. [8:09] I appreciate it all the work from that. [8:10] I know it looked easy, but Kim did a lot of work. [8:12] You just got it in and out quickly. [8:15] Thanks, Alan. [8:17] Okay. [8:17] Did we vote on this year? [8:21] We'll be some. [8:22] All in color in our office. [8:23] Yeah, thanks so much. [8:25] All in favor? [8:26] I, any opposed, passes unanimously. [8:31] Tab A are liability, insurance liability, and health applications. [8:38] We have a motion for a certain health insurance policy within B.P. [8:43] Motion. [8:44] Thank you, Johnson. [8:45] I have a second. [8:46] Thanks, Alan. [8:48] Join me for many questions, comments, convinced service. [8:51] All in favour? [8:52] All in pardon. [8:53] All all in favour? [8:53] I can also post a開始 audience, thank you. [8:56] tab 9 [8:57] the approval! [8:59] Let me have a motion. [9:06] Thank you, shans now I don't know, taking so Budget. [9:09] Any comments, questions, or concerns? [9:12] It's the Dull of Valley Ball Replication Winter Time Fun at Chancellor. [9:19] All in favor? [9:22] And he throws as Athena MS Lee. [9:24] Thank you. [9:25] But Dana, it doesn't have wheels, but it might be you anyway. [9:29] About twenty twenty five years. [9:30] Yeah. [9:30] Forty-five approved disposal of non-working to sheep a cop here. [9:34] What if they have a motion? [9:36] No. [9:37] I'm pushing on this. [9:38] I'm going to have a baby second. [9:41] I'm going to have a witch. [9:43] I'm going to have a baby second. [9:44] All in favor? [9:45] All in favor? [9:46] I'm going to have a baby. [9:47] Any of those, passes unanimously. [9:49] Sorry, Danny. [9:50] It's not as easy as you lost. [9:51] I don't know about those. [9:53] Table 11, 2021, 2, 46 approved Ronald Ponds, [9:57] study on steric donor church road and emotion. [10:01] I'll take, I'll take trusty. [10:03] I'll take trusty and then Allen. [10:05] So on advice of Council, we, I will sign up on this once the school member, this is first [10:15] school kid to monitor water on our plant, for some wildlife and our council would like [10:23] for us to have a reaper in case the kid falls on everything else. [10:27] So this won't be a proof until we get the way we signed it in terms. [10:31] Any further discussion at comments? [10:33] on favor. [10:35] I, I, and you pose, passes unanimously. [10:40] TAB 12, I'm sorry, resolution 2020 by 1047, [10:45] and for the concession stamp bid package. [10:47] May I have a motion? [10:48] Motion. [10:49] Thanks, Chad. [10:49] May I have a second? [10:51] Good. [10:51] Thanks, Alan. [10:53] This is a compilation of a lot of work from Frank Mezle [10:56] at Reload, Chad Clyde. [10:59] And then after some, [11:02] Masterful product by our town clerk, our engineering firm. [11:06] To thank you, Joan, as always. [11:09] It's to build out and fit and get working [11:13] our kitchen at the railing session span. [11:18] So we're getting a kitchen working kitchen in there [11:20] and doing so many good repairs. [11:23] With our field popping and people down there [11:26] more and more and more a little bit. [11:28] and many for the public, so we're okay for what to. [11:33] Any comments, questions, concerns? [11:36] Chad, thank you for all your work on this. [11:38] And friends? [11:40] And my most. [11:41] Most of the time. [11:42] I'm a colleague. [11:43] I'm a colleague. [11:44] Any opposed? [11:45] Passes, you know. [11:46] Thank you. [11:48] Event application for the third contract. [11:50] Twenty twenty five, two forty eight. [11:52] May I have a motion? [11:53] Motion. [11:54] Thank you. [11:54] May I have a second? [11:56] Sorry. [11:59] I think this has been going on for like 17 years. [12:03] It's a great event. [12:04] We've never had at the 18th year. [12:06] We've never had a complete or a squeak. [12:08] I'm like, other road events that happen. [12:11] And we are at all like, we're having fun. [12:13] And we are waving our application because it's a local non-profit. [12:19] Yeah, we're not going to talk about it. [12:21] No one's, we're not taking complaints on front of us anymore. [12:24] Anybody, any comments or concerns from [12:27] board, [12:29] on favorite, [12:31] and he's so excited, [12:32] because we have this laid thanks to Nick Stanley, [12:37] and called for Cliff Forest for hosting this every year to leave. [12:41] Are you going to run into Danon? [12:42] Yeah, every year, [12:43] all right! [12:45] From here, [12:51] from here, [12:56] from here, [12:57] from here, [12:58] from here, [13:02] from here, [13:07] on the 17th of October. The event is on, thanks. Thanks for being up to November 27th. [13:18] Thank you. [13:21] to have 14 charge point credit and support contract resolution 2025249 and have a motion. [13:29] Thank you. [13:29] Thank you, Chad. [13:30] We have a second. [13:31] Thanks, Dana. [13:33] We got a grant for this. [13:35] And I think you've had four or five years in the left. [13:38] Just in the eight or five to five, that is over. [13:42] And then we're going to charge people who use it. [13:44] It's at the library, the back of the start library. [13:48] Now it'll be a charge point with credit cards so that people will be charged to those in. [13:53] Any comments or questions in the board? [13:57] I didn't know it was free and I would have availed myself of it, but to lay now. [14:02] To lay now, to lay now, to the news that you lost. [14:06] All in favor? [14:08] I'm sorry. [14:09] Any opposed? [14:11] That's unanimously. [14:12] I will make a motion for the next three resolutions. [14:15] 2015-15. [14:18] 2015-15. [14:19] 2015-15. [14:20] And 2015-15. [14:22] There are blimmer and calcestrex, [14:24] I have a project set of strats, [14:26] and I have budget modifications. [14:28] All are printed out, [14:29] break details and send out to the public [14:30] and advance of this meeting. [14:32] See, you can see, I've spend it. [14:34] Any comments, questions, [14:35] or concerns from the town board? [14:38] uh, in favor? [14:40] I'm sorry, you motioned it? [14:41] No, I'll answer. [14:42] In the second. [14:43] Thank you. [14:44] on favor? [14:46] I, any post passes unanimously. [14:50] Is there any new business before the town forward? [14:54] Are there any public comments on any town agenda items for any other concerns? [15:00] I'm hearing nothing, I will make you agree? [15:07] Oh sorry, we're not going back to discuss the parking. [15:10] John, who we ask? I need a motion and a second to continue that procedure. [15:15] We already could take, we already stated that we did it. [15:18] So, [15:21] okay. [15:22] I would like a motion to continue our vehicle in traffic, public hearing, until November 24th. [15:30] Thank you for the motion. Thank you. [15:32] I have a second. [15:33] Thank you, Chair. [15:36] Oh, I favor of continuing our public hearing of youthful and traffic. [15:40] Hi. [15:42] Dana. [15:43] Yes, that's a pass. [15:44] Let's go to resolution. [15:48] Let's see. [15:49] We don't have any changes with a local law. [15:52] But we do have changes. [15:54] So, to have free is fine, but it's tab-forward that we have issues with, right? [16:01] Okay, what do you want me to strike out here? [16:04] I just see, and I think I just think that... [16:07] Yeah, it gives it to me now, and we'll discuss it and strike it out. [16:11] All right. [16:20] How do you know where it is? [16:22] It's just the... [16:23] For which boat? [16:25] Yes, yes. [16:26] Your truck is just not the best fit for the placement, not the block. [16:29] So, no, no, no, is it the change that we want to make in the law or in this? [16:35] We're right now the law, which is section 1-13-20 penalties in traffic and fractions. [16:43] You take that and we're going to work on them on a fine quantities per fees. [16:49] We don't know that we are. [16:51] We're going to see if we are. [16:52] What we have here are miscellaneous provisions. [16:56] Every person convicted of a traffic compression for violation of any supervision in the [17:01] instructor, which is non-violation of any provision of the V&T laws of the State's New York, [17:06] which is a winter parking for the first conviction there of a hundred by a five of [17:10] not less than a hundred dollars, and not less than two hundred dollars. Is that okay with everybody? [17:18] Yeah, this is what we want to go through. [17:22] Is the five-fade scale okay with everybody? [17:26] I know it. [17:27] Two. [17:28] Two. [17:29] Yes. [17:30] Thanos. [17:31] I think a hundred dollars for the first two days. [17:34] This is called a chair. [17:35] My five. [17:37] I'd like to bring it to you. [17:38] Just 75, because we have to think of the mission. [17:40] And let's find what the chances find what the final line would do. [17:43] That's six. [17:44] Two hundred. [17:47] Two hundred. [17:47] Two hundred. [17:47] There's the maximum. [17:48] That's the answer. [17:51] Yes. [17:51] There's this. [17:52] Dana? [17:53] That's fine. [17:54] That's a matter of time. [17:55] That's a matter of time. [17:55] There's a matter of time. [17:56] Okay. [17:56] We're staying with the 100. [17:58] There's 200. [17:59] I'm assuming that a second commission with an 18 must shall be punished by a five and not less than [18:05] 250 and 450. [18:08] Anybody want to change that. [18:10] So just to be clear, if someone pays that first ticket, the second time they're going [18:14] to take it. [18:14] Now all of a sudden they can get 200. [18:16] I don't think that's crazy, I shouldn't be parking. [18:21] I mean, right now, what do you want to do? [18:24] I want to do. [18:24] I want to do. [18:27] What's, yes, I'm proud of it. [18:30] Okay, that stays, sorry, you know. [18:32] I guess imprisonment for not more than five days is coming out. [18:38] I just, you just know imprisonment for a parking seat. [18:40] Let's, we're going to park, we're going to park, we're going to park, we're going to park, we're going to park, we're going to park, we're going to park. [18:48] So Dana, I hear you and respect you, but let's not make it seem like we have prison fines attached to our zoning laws. [18:56] So this is not some part of the same thing, but I respect your opinion and everybody has to say here. [19:01] So I bring up imprisonment, we're taking striping by imprisonment for not more than five days or both. [19:09] You might take out from it from the 450, there's a comma, strike everything after that comma up until the semicolon. [19:16] So that removes more by imprisonment for not more than five days, or by folks that's [19:21] finding imprisonment to take that up. [19:23] And then subsequently, we're talks about imprisonment after the 900, a comma, take out [19:28] everything after that up through the period. [19:34] Okay. [19:34] But what about the last line of 450 to 900? [19:37] That's right. [19:39] Well, what do you want to test to do then? [19:42] That's the highest summer ticket paid for three fines in an 18-month period, which is a year and [19:46] half. [19:46] I don't know, I mean, I could say, okay, I don't know, I have a kid yet. [19:50] We can work further on this. [19:54] It's up to the justice. [19:55] Do you want to leave it for now? [19:57] It's up to the justice always and all of this. [19:58] No, no. [19:59] Actually, with this, it's not. [20:00] They can't go. [20:01] They have to be within this. [20:03] Yeah. [20:04] It's up to the justice. [20:09] I think if we lower the minimum, there is a better chance of actual collections, [20:14] because I could see a justice just growing things out more than then not because they've never [20:19] turned out crazy. [20:24] Are they? [20:24] Could you check with them? [20:25] I guess tickets in Kingston all the time, and they're 25 bus the pop 50 if you're [20:30] only in the stocking district. [20:32] Did you check with other towns to check with other towns to check with other towns? [20:34] Because what Michael Barthice said is that this isn't keeping with 12 neighboring towns. [20:41] Any, any, I, you asked if we had any thoughts, I just, in New York City, these are way higher than New York City finds, yeah, which strikes me as kind of highly punitive as they go on, you know what I mean? [21:00] Is there anything I know of this? [21:03] I think that would be a group of people. [21:05] Mommy has something. [21:07] I don't know if I can do this. [21:09] I think that's the group. [21:10] Since it's a group of departments. [21:12] You get a totally contract with it, but it's not totally well. [21:16] That's where we're told it's very hard to, [21:19] to go over see it and make sure it's the minister's family family. [21:23] That's usually where the cost is. [21:25] You can count it. [21:26] You can count the totally justice. [21:28] We're very, very interested in track of it. [21:30] But I do want to see a constant, and how it's worth 75 bucks, if someone's locked in in for hours, and if just an idea, if somebody's after hours, when the gates closed, and they want to get out, they have to pay a total of $2. [21:48] So, which is that, how much is the selling thing? [21:51] Well, though, they don't want to lock the gate for 75 dollars. [21:56] The total company won't. [21:57] It's seen a customer's private life. [22:00] Yes, nothing. [22:00] It's nothing. [22:01] It's just a, you know, it's just a, you know, it's just a. [22:05] Oh, what do you guys want to do in private life? [22:09] I thought everybody had an idea, and we discussed it further. [22:14] We had email, and we had an idea. [22:15] I think that's especially for the video, you know, [22:17] because there's just a lot of, there's a, there's good questions [22:21] and good ideas for me about how it can just [22:24] It's probably a bit of public comment, but it's just work on the system and it has to [22:28] do tonight. [22:29] Anything you want to do? [22:30] We admit that this shuts down a law, or shuts down this particular document, because it's not a miserable, this point, if you made any change. [22:36] We have a public hearing schedule. We let this work on it and get it done, right? [22:44] So for our first effect, this is 100 to 200, second effect, it's 250, and the third effect is 450 to 950. [22:53] Data's thinking is that this is all too high, and this is town-wide. [22:58] This is not just in life, but this is town-wide. [23:02] We don't really have a perfect machine on the town. [23:05] No, you don't. [23:05] The only issue is really wrinkled, and it's not even so much an initiative anymore. [23:11] Oh, oh. [23:12] I think that everything we've just discussed and being... [23:15] has worked on at the time. [23:18] I think that's a good idea. [23:19] We're discussing it now, do we want to keep discussing it? [23:22] What would we want to do? [23:25] Hey, no, what would you suggest for these numbers? [23:27] I mean, I already said it. [23:28] I think first one you do 25 to 50. [23:31] Second one you do 75, third one you do 75 to 100. [23:34] But also, I would restart the time. [23:36] Someone pays a ticket. [23:38] Like, I just, it's easy to have the apps grew up. [23:42] It's easy to just, like, well, this we don't have a ticket. [23:45] No, but the idea is that there are people who built in. [23:51] One at a time, the main thing is that I think your point outside of whatever the [23:56] punitive aspect is that it's not a chemo that it will vary from us, you can't resolve [24:00] that through payment. [24:01] If it's repeated non-payment, that could be applicable to whatever structure of payment [24:06] we're requesting. [24:07] If you pay as a state and a suggests, that doesn't mean that the next time you get into [24:12] it, you should pay double or true. [24:14] Well, if you keep parking there, what if you're, what if that shows that you're [24:20] And that's fine too, and that would then really be the system of what the other aspects would be. [24:27] So if you make a mistake a year and a half apart, twice, your fine will go up to 200 to 400. [24:36] And then if you make a mistake in a year and a half, for a third time, you're at 40 to 900 dollars. [24:43] I think it is 25 dollars week. [24:45] We pay 90 dollars a hour for the police. [24:47] That's where we have things that's where we have and that's what Michael was saying and which was here right now to help us is that [24:52] We can do the administrative aspect just kind of get the tickets you have to balance mining [24:57] Which is why I would like to take it to move this in a discussion for the rest of the time until the next meeting [25:03] When we can have a clear picture [25:05] But on a table this I'd like to table it just so that Michael can be [25:09] She's not coming we're not bringing them in to discuss this. We can't ever turn it on with them [25:13] We could do it be a email [25:15] That's fine too. I mean it's only fine. But we let's table it and work out. [25:18] Do you want to support you? [25:20] Yeah. That's table less. But I hear you. It seems crazy. [25:25] And I'm less passionate about the final thing like just having the incarceration there. [25:29] And see how crazy the incarceration is out. [25:31] Yeah, I know. But I mean even that's crazy. Probably wasn't going to happen. [25:34] But I was just like, why is it not a principle? [25:36] I have no idea what's all over our code. [25:39] It's standard. [25:39] And every time we do a law that has incarceration for failure pay, [25:43] I'm going to suggest we take it out every single time. [25:46] Even against advice of council? [25:48] Yes. [25:48] Against advice of council. [25:50] Why? [25:51] The council doesn't make policy. [25:54] I don't want curious. [25:56] So, Brad is there for justice, which I think is a pretty good question. [25:59] What you're recording there had nothing to do with fines. [26:03] It had to deal with people who get in bail. [26:05] I had to deal with failures to pay in incarceration. [26:08] And that is exactly what we just struck out. [26:10] I just think it's like, immoral is probably not super relevant here in Ryanette, where, okay, so we're going to revisit this point. [26:17] Let me just interject something that may be useful as we go forward. [26:22] We'll take a listen, whatever we do next. [26:25] Which we've gone to the Hamlet. [26:28] It's so tough there that any time my wife and I are both going, I call a cat. [26:35] I'm not going to go down, but if you're a working man, sort of living hand in the mouth, [26:42] you can't afford that luxury, so you go anyway, and you park a little bit, so these are [26:48] great numbers for somebody like that, you can't really, it doesn't really have much money. [26:52] What's the parking of things, Jones? What is the parking cost? That's a lot now. [26:58] $5,000. [26:59] And there's a lot. [27:00] And there's a lot. [27:00] And there's a lot. [27:02] And there's a lot. [27:02] And there's a monthly fee that you pay to the math, but that's. [27:07] That's it. [27:08] And I've seen tickets being handed out on cars and stuff functioning. [27:11] I mean, there's a couple things that we brought up tonight, which is about repeat [27:17] offenders, as well as somebody being structured, which provides. [27:21] If you pay your ticket, you shouldn't be punished for second time or money for [27:26] doing it a second time and a year and a half later. I mean, that this is [27:31] like three months or six months. We just need to, we just need to [27:35] spend some time to table this, it was, do it right. We're going to, we're going to [27:40] be finished. And get it done right. We're going to take this, we're going to [27:42] need to vote for it. No, I think we just table it. We're going to table it, we [27:47] pull it out, we're going to table it and we're not doing it. [27:51] Anything else? [27:52] Are we fairly exhausted on this? [27:55] No. [27:55] We're going to have this stuff. [27:57] Should I just only been working on it for three and a half years? [27:59] Yeah, but he's got to stand with it. [28:01] No, I don't know. [28:02] I don't know what the point is. [28:02] I'm very excited. [28:04] I know. [28:04] Get us an attorney client with our bill of honor to see them. [28:08] And we can talk about this. [28:11] Okay. [28:11] What about you? [28:12] Yes. [28:12] Yeah. [28:13] He can clean up any of the necessary things that we can. [28:18] I cannot do. [28:18] So yes. [28:19] Okay. [28:20] I will schedule an attorney client. [28:22] And also, could you guys all, could you please all email me, your personal email address is [28:29] because my personal computer server crashed and I have to, I have to, I have to, I have [28:34] to email again. [28:35] I don't know how to get you personally. [28:37] I'm not going to get you. [28:37] I think you have one. [28:38] I have one. [28:39] I have one. [28:40] But I will schedule an attorney. [28:43] Come on in. [28:45] With my part of ill. [28:49] I'm not sorry about it. [28:50] I don't need real trouble. [28:51] I think you personally mean that was made certain, but I'm good at it for a track for [28:55] part. [28:58] I'll send that an email to you guys tonight or tomorrow, with some talk. [29:03] After I talked about the microphone tomorrow, I'll send that an email in times for the end [29:08] of this week early next week. [29:10] Great. [29:11] All right. [29:12] Do you want to copy this? [29:13] No. [29:18] Any [29:22] other public comment on the origin of the items, [29:28] any other issues or any sort of [29:31] important, or anything like to make a motion to adjourn. [29:35] Second. [29:36] Good night, everybody. [29:37] Thank you. [29:37] See you next time.