1 00:00:03,290 --> 00:00:30,290 Okay, I believe we will adjourn the open forum session for this morning. I don't know if we want to have a motion in a second to adjourn that. Still moved. I got a motion by Commissioner Purpose, second by Commissioner Underdoll to adjourn the open forum session. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Oh, same sign. Okay, we will call to order the Board of Commissioners. 2 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:36,090 September 8th, 2026, regular meeting to order, we'll start with the pledge. 3 00:00:37,490 --> 00:00:44,470 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. 4 00:00:44,970 --> 00:00:49,770 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 5 00:00:54,990 --> 00:01:02,330 As the County Board proceeds with today's agenda, we will provide an opportunity for the public to comment regarding agenda items. 6 00:01:02,330 --> 00:01:08,090 following each presentation in prior to the County Board of Action. Additional 7 00:01:08,090 --> 00:01:12,130 comments will not be heard for items that have already completed a public hearing 8 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:17,530 process. We ask that you fill out a public comment card in advance and submit it 9 00:01:17,530 --> 00:01:24,090 to Susie back there so that we can address each person in turn. If you have a 10 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:29,490 question that arises during a presentation, please complete the card and submit it 11 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:31,250 to Suzie as soon as you are able. 12 00:01:31,890 --> 00:01:33,750 If you are participating online, 13 00:01:34,010 --> 00:01:36,370 indicate your desire to provide public comment 14 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:39,650 in the chat box, along with identifying information 15 00:01:39,650 --> 00:01:40,430 for the record. 16 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:44,310 With that, we'll go on to roll call. 17 00:01:44,790 --> 00:01:45,070 Malika? 18 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:45,910 Yes. 19 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:46,890 Boys and 10. 20 00:01:47,290 --> 00:01:47,490 Here. 21 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:48,350 Peter's. 22 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:48,710 Here. 23 00:01:49,110 --> 00:01:49,310 First. 24 00:01:49,730 --> 00:01:49,910 Here. 25 00:01:50,190 --> 00:01:50,370 Here. 26 00:01:52,510 --> 00:01:56,590 Showing we are all here, approval of today's agenda, 27 00:01:56,590 --> 00:02:02,490 any additions? Subjections. Move to approve. Second. 28 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:08,030 The motion by commission are under it all. Second by commission or purpose for approval of the agenda. 29 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:12,890 Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 30 00:02:14,110 --> 00:02:20,130 Both same sign. Approval of the minutes from our regular meeting, August 25th, 2026. 31 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:22,830 Motion to approve. Second. 32 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:28,170 The motion by Commissioner Malacca, second by Commissioner Heisington for approval of the minutes. 33 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:30,690 Any discussion? 34 00:02:31,370 --> 00:02:33,810 Seeing none, all is in favor say aye. 35 00:02:34,370 --> 00:02:34,550 Aye. 36 00:02:34,990 --> 00:02:35,970 All the same sign. 37 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:37,630 Motion passes. 38 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:41,870 Okay, first up is property tax and elections, Denise. 39 00:02:45,940 --> 00:02:46,920 Good morning. 40 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:47,820 Good morning. 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Approval requested today for a new on and off sale, including Sunday liquor license for the Red Cabin, LLC. 42 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:08,320 We'll see doing business as the lodge of Lake Mazzasca on Lake Mazzasca, 717-053rd Street, West, Faribault, starting today through June 30th, 2027. 43 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:11,160 Motion to approve. 44 00:03:11,780 --> 00:03:12,000 Second. 45 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Motion by Commissioner Purpose, second by Commissioner Underdall, for approval of the liquor license on Lake Mazzasca, any discussion? 46 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Seeing none, all those in favour say aye. 47 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,260 All right. 48 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:26,060 All right. 49 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,100 Close same sign motion passes. 50 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,820 Thank you. 51 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:29,540 Thank you. 52 00:03:30,820 --> 00:03:32,940 Next is facilities, Chris. 53 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:33,820 Good 54 00:03:41,730 --> 00:03:42,490 morning, Mr. Smith. 55 00:03:42,790 --> 00:03:43,250 Good morning. 56 00:03:43,950 --> 00:03:44,150 Good morning. 57 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:45,070 One minute of this. 58 00:03:45,570 --> 00:03:53,430 Looking to declare a fleet vehicle 2020 Dodge Caravan has County Surplus, the background 59 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:55,550 of 2020 Dodge Caravan. 60 00:03:55,910 --> 00:04:01,930 Fleet vehicle, Venn number of stated, was utilized as the main friendship post, band of transport 61 00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:07,810 for clients to inform activities, the van of the need of transmission replacement, and 62 00:04:07,810 --> 00:04:10,550 other issues that exceed the value of the van. 63 00:04:10,910 --> 00:04:13,150 Therefore, it has been considered a surplus item. 64 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:19,090 We will file this as surplus under the raised county surplus policy, and 65 00:04:19,090 --> 00:04:26,370 we'll auction the van out through an auction company, which complies with the county's surplus property policy. 66 00:04:27,390 --> 00:04:33,490 We're requesting to approve Fleet Vehicle 2020 Dodge Caravan as County Surplus. 67 00:04:34,630 --> 00:04:35,570 Motion to approve. 68 00:04:35,950 --> 00:04:36,170 Second. 69 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:38,390 The motion by Commissioner Hoysington. 70 00:04:38,650 --> 00:04:43,250 Second by Commissioner Malica to declare this as a County Surplus. 71 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:44,410 Any discussion? 72 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:46,430 Chris, just one. 73 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:48,170 Do you know how many miles we're on this vehicle? 74 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:49,290 99,000. 75 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:50,530 This car is. 76 00:04:51,550 --> 00:04:52,650 Any other discussion? 77 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:56,210 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 78 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:56,990 Aye. 79 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:58,610 Both same sign. 80 00:04:59,390 --> 00:05:00,250 Motion passes. 81 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:00,830 Thank you. 82 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,870 Information Technology. 83 00:05:05,470 --> 00:05:05,810 Allen. 84 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:20,600 Good morning commissioners. 85 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:21,200 Good morning. 86 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:23,840 I have one item for you today. 87 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:28,180 I'm here regarding our annual renewal of our Adobe licensing. 88 00:05:29,260 --> 00:05:32,200 Rice County uses Adobe products across most of our departments. 89 00:05:32,940 --> 00:05:35,680 We have 196 licenses of Acrobat Pro. 90 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:41,300 two licenses of Creative Cloud Pro Plus and one license of Adobe AI Assistant. 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Acrobat is used for working with PDFs. Creative Cloud is a full suite of 92 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,440 multimedia tools and the AI Assistant is an add-on for Adobe products that 93 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,540 enable Adobe AI to assist working with documents or whatever files you're 94 00:05:57,540 --> 00:06:04,520 working with. CIT is the vendor that our Adobe contract is tied to. They provided 95 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:11,000 I did a quote for the annual renewal for $53,305 in 80 cents for one year. 96 00:06:11,380 --> 00:06:12,840 This is out of the IT budget. 97 00:06:13,580 --> 00:06:16,880 I asked the board to approve renewal as quoted. 98 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:18,960 Motion to approve. 99 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,620 Second, the motion by Commissioner Malca, second by Commissioner. 100 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,340 Washington, for approval, any discussion? 101 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,860 Thank you. 102 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:32,600 Alan, is this about the same as what we paid last year? 103 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,640 as you see in the substantial increase? 104 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:38,240 So yes, this is actually identical to last year. 105 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:46,420 The only difference is that we've added the AI tool seat other than, oh, excuse me. 106 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Last year, the cost of the license was where identical. 107 00:06:51,940 --> 00:06:57,040 We didn't have the AI seat and we actually did an aggressive audit and push last year to 108 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:05,020 reduce the license count. And we actually dropped from 198 to 160. However, we quickly found 109 00:07:05,020 --> 00:07:09,460 that we had a lot of people that used the products maybe not as often as came up when we queried 110 00:07:09,460 --> 00:07:15,880 all of the department heads. So over the next two months since then, we kept adding licenses 111 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,200 and make it individual purchases. 112 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:27,380 So we've climbed from 196 to, oh, excuse me, 196 still. 113 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:28,700 So it's the same. 114 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,700 And I did not make an aggressive push. 115 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,120 This year it was very disruptive for departments 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,940 and for my own staff having to go back 117 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:39,500 and purchase more licenses, reinstall Acrobat on a lot of computers. 118 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,180 So we've moved to more just regular check-ins with the departments 119 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:44,120 regarding their usage. 120 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:54,200 It's held steady going back actually since 2023, from 22 to 23, there was a very significant 121 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,940 price increase, and I think they're trying to hold steady since then. 122 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:02,860 Okay, okay, that was your purpose. 123 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 124 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,420 I see there's a couple in there that have different costs to them. 125 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,700 Is that a different classification within the software, could you explain where that extra 126 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:13,540 cost comes from? 127 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:19,200 Are you referring to on the quote where we have the 159, the 1233, and the 59. 128 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Like the two of them in there at 1233. 129 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:33,820 Yes, so the Acrobat Pro where we have 196 seats, that is Acrobat just the regular application that's very common. 130 00:08:34,420 --> 00:08:41,660 The Creative Cloud Plus is actually the suite of most of the products that Adobe makes. 131 00:08:41,660 --> 00:09:00,520 That's used in administration and in communications so that has the files that they need if we need to do any sort of trimming or optimization or clean up or any sort of work with video files or image files. 132 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,920 So that's a Photoshop and it'll be in design and I know the tools that are used 133 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,980 Primaries for putting content up on the web or 134 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:11,520 Working with the files in different departments need 135 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,500 Okay, so that's that's why that's a lot more expensive. That's a whole suite of products 136 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,940 Acrobat is included in that, but it's it's actually one of the smaller pieces 137 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:24,600 Okay, thank you any other 138 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:26,380 discussion 139 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:28,180 seen none 140 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:34,300 All those in favor of the IT License Renewal, say aye. 141 00:09:34,780 --> 00:09:35,160 Aye. 142 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:36,260 Can't sign. 143 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 There will be License Renewal approved. 144 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,380 Thank you. 145 00:09:40,700 --> 00:09:40,980 Thank you. 146 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,220 Community Corrections, Angela. 147 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,980 Good morning, commissioners. 148 00:09:51,140 --> 00:09:51,560 Good morning. 149 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Good morning. 150 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:53,700 I have two items for you this morning. 151 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:02,220 The first is a revised version of a contract with the Community Action Center for two rental 152 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:08,560 housing units that are supplied as part of our treatment court program. They are paid 153 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:13,540 for and supported through the treatment court enhancement grant. When that contract came 154 00:10:13,540 --> 00:10:19,900 before you in March, none of the parties, including us, notice that there was not a section 155 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:25,420 regarding the security deposit for the two units. So that is the addition in the contract 156 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:30,980 that you have before you. It's adding security deposit equal to one month's rent on each 157 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:35,900 of the two units, I'm asking for approval of the revised contract. 158 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Motion to approve. 159 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:37,980 Second. 160 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Motion by Commissioner Malica, second by Commissioner Underdall. 161 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,180 For approval of the contract, any discussion on this? 162 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:51,830 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 163 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:52,470 Aye. 164 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:54,870 The same sign, motion passes. 165 00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:56,050 Thank you. 166 00:10:56,530 --> 00:11:02,310 The second item before you is a proclamation of recovery month and to present that I would 167 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:06,350 and introduce Toby Anderson, our behavioral health supervisor 168 00:11:06,350 --> 00:11:09,850 and Amber Starkson, our specialty coordinator. 169 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Good morning. 170 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:17,840 Good morning. 171 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,280 I'd like to read the proclamation to you 172 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,540 and then maybe go through just a couple 173 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,300 exciting things that are happening 174 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:27,140 in the recovery world for this month. 175 00:11:27,940 --> 00:11:30,080 But first, we'll read the proclamation. 176 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,420 So, whereas substance use disorders affect the health 177 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:36,500 and well-being of individuals, families, 178 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:42,120 and communities across the nation, the state and in Rice County, and whereas behavioral 179 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:48,060 health is essential to everyone's overall well-being and behavioral health services are 180 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:54,880 a key element to achieving and sustaining recovery, and whereas prevention of substance use 181 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:01,420 disorders works, treatment is effective and recovery is possible, and whereas prevention, treatment, 182 00:12:01,420 --> 00:12:03,560 and peer-and-recovery support services, 183 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,260 including recovery housing, mutual aid, 184 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,080 employment services, faith communities, 185 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:12,260 and other recovery support services, 186 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,480 all help people build healthy, fulfilling lives, 187 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,380 and whereas we celebrate the thousands of Minnesotans, 188 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,800 including many Rice County residents living in recovery 189 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:24,560 who lead meaningful lives 190 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,580 and are essential active contributors to families, 191 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:33,560 workplaces, our communities, and civic life, and whereas we recognize four 192 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:38,000 dimensions of recovery from mental health and substance use disorders, health, 193 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,880 home, purpose, and community, and whereas recovery has strengthened through the 194 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:49,920 relationships, belonging, meaning, and purpose, families, faith communities, workplaces, 195 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,280 schools, tribal communities, and local organizations all play a role in creating 196 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:02,420 recovery supportive environments and whereas Rice County continues to invest in a broad 197 00:13:02,420 --> 00:13:07,560 spectrum of services that support and encourage recovery that works in collaboration with 198 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:14,380 our many community partners who are committed to prevention, health, treatment and person-centered 199 00:13:14,380 --> 00:13:20,280 recovery programs, which support recovery at every stage and improve the recovery of life 200 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:26,320 in our communities and whereas Rice County partners with communities across the state and nation 201 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,460 to recognize and advance the goals of national recovery month. 202 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:36,020 Therefore be it resolved that Rice County Board of Commissioners hereby proclaims the month of 203 00:13:36,020 --> 00:13:41,480 September as recovery month in Rice County and encourages all citizens to support and celebrate the 204 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:48,460 achievements, dedication and sustained effort of all persons in recovery and those who have continued 205 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:51,080 to support them on their recovery journey. 206 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,700 A couple of just exciting things for this recovery month in particular, I think we've got 207 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:01,820 recovery in the park on September 24th, that is the Thursday from 4 to 7. 208 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:06,960 We'll make that extra exciting this month as we have one of our treatment core participants 209 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:13,160 speaking at that event so we're excited to hear what this gentleman has to say. 210 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:20,240 The other thing is we continue to move forward with the compass project and getting the space set up and doing those things. 211 00:14:20,580 --> 00:14:22,240 So we're excited for all of those things. 212 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,220 Thank you. 213 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,140 Thank you. 214 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,220 Motion to approve. 215 00:14:27,660 --> 00:14:28,100 Thank you. 216 00:14:28,580 --> 00:14:35,100 Motion by Commissioner Malca, second by Commissioner Purpose for approval of Recovery Month Proclamation. 217 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,660 Any discussion? 218 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,180 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 219 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Aye. 220 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,460 All same sign, motion passes, thank you. 221 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,860 Next up, Sheriff's Office. 222 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:54,430 Good morning, commissioners, Mr. Chair. 223 00:14:54,650 --> 00:14:54,790 Good morning. 224 00:14:55,710 --> 00:14:59,850 Just one item this morning, we're going to, well, with your approval. 225 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:30,120 We will establish a joint powers agreement for our dive team. Currently, we have three members of our dive team that aren't technically paid for by Rice County, so we have one North Field Police Department officer and two Federal Police Department officers that are on our dive team. And since we added them, we felt this was appropriate. So what happens is Rice County has a budget and we provide all the training and all the 226 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:36,300 the equipment and those three members are paid by their agency when they assist us. 227 00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:45,520 So just looking for your approval to move forward with this and like I said, there's no financial impact. 228 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:49,060 So we'll do approve. 229 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Second. 230 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:52,840 Motion by Commissioner Underdall. 231 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Second by Commissioner Heisington for the Joint Powers Agreement with the Rice County Dive Team. 232 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:08,540 any discussion? Comments, commissioners, I mean I can change it on average. How many calls a year does 233 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:20,200 Dive team get? I would say like in the summer months and then the early ice is our busiest time. I 234 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,200 would say probably eight to 12 calls. We have about 15 members and I always like to remind everybody 235 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:36,040 that it seems like a lot of people, but most of our call outs happen on a busy holiday weekend, so it's nice to have a good group of people to pull from. 236 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Thank you. Any other comments? Discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of the joint powers say aye. 237 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,740 I'm Rosanne Sine, motion passes. 238 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Thank you. 239 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:54,080 Next is drainage authority, Jared. 240 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:55,780 Would it go into drainage authority? 241 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,540 Set that a second. 242 00:16:58,340 --> 00:17:01,320 We have a motion and a second motion by commission 243 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,960 around all second by commission or嘛okha 244 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,900 The going to drainage authority, all those in favor say aye. 245 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,540 Aye. 246 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,080 Rosanne Sine, drainage authority. 247 00:17:11,660 --> 00:17:12,320 We are in. 248 00:17:12,580 --> 00:17:13,020 Good morning. 249 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:16,300 I'm not Jared, but I'll do my best here. 250 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,080 He's here in case we need him for questions. 251 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:24,620 I'm coming to you with two items we talked about at our committee meeting as well. 252 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:29,200 The first one is to approve an assessment for joint ditch six repairs. 253 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:35,860 We got the final invoice in in 2026, so we would like to proceed with the assessment. 254 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:41,280 So it's a little bit of background as of the end of 2025 fiscal year. 255 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:50,440 We had a negative fund balance in there of $335,985, and the expenditures that made up 256 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:58,220 that fund balance were primarily for the project number 22-25087, which included removing 257 00:17:58,220 --> 00:18:05,520 true crossings, replacing a box culvert in a new location, and replacing the corrugated 258 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,180 the middle pipe crossing with reinforced concrete pipe. 259 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,300 The ditch banks were also re-sloped, 260 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,900 and RIP rap was placed along curves 261 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:17,080 and other areas that were vulnerable to erosion. 262 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,500 There were three rock ripples placed 263 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,800 throughout the project area to slow down the current 264 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,300 and help bring the ditch back to its original grade. 265 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,560 So I'm requesting the board adoption of the resolution 266 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,300 to assess the Rice County benefiting parcels. 267 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,140 So we can return to a positive fund balance. 268 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:41,200 And Steel County is responsible for assessing their land owners. 269 00:18:43,460 --> 00:18:51,240 So with this, this would bring us to a positive fund balance as of about $30,000. 270 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,580 $3,000. 271 00:18:53,060 --> 00:18:54,360 Motion to approve. 272 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,160 Second. 273 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Motion by Commissioner Malca, second by Commissioner Purpose for joint ditch six assessment 274 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,320 for repairs. 275 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,940 Any discussion on that? 276 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:09,650 Yeah. 277 00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:18,290 Peggy, just to clarify that, so the cost of repairs is $350,000, $287, correct? 278 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:25,390 So, $335,985 is our negative fund balance. 279 00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:30,630 We're assessing additional so we can have a fund balance to cover. 280 00:19:31,090 --> 00:19:36,330 It basically will cover the next year or two of operations expenditures. 281 00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:42,890 And then eventually we'd like to get into a cycle of having a positive fund balance for 282 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:45,030 digits so they don't go so far in the negative. 283 00:19:45,030 --> 00:19:50,510 And so this is going to be distributed between the land owners, assess this? 284 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:58,770 Yes, if Sandy can scroll down, there's a list of, if you go down, yes, six of it, eight here. 285 00:19:59,530 --> 00:20:10,990 This is all of the parcels that are impacted by, if you scroll to the last page, Sandy, it explains how much. 286 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:13,690 So if it's an amount less than 100,000. 287 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:18,850 So everybody will get a letter that is a prepayment letter, they'll have 30 days to respond 288 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:19,570 with a payment. 289 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:26,490 If we don't receive payment within 30 days, then it will go on their property tax, the 290 00:20:26,490 --> 00:20:32,110 next property tax role, as an assessment, and then it's outlined below that if it's less 291 00:20:32,110 --> 00:20:40,550 than $100, they have one year to pay over 100, but less than 10,000 is five years and anything 292 00:20:40,550 --> 00:20:42,170 over 10,000 is ten years. 293 00:20:42,530 --> 00:20:43,850 Okay. All right. 294 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:47,170 And it's a 4% interest rate. 295 00:20:48,690 --> 00:20:50,350 Any other discussion? 296 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,260 Seeing none we have a motion and a second for approval of joint ditch six assessments. 297 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,280 All those in favor say aye. 298 00:20:59,580 --> 00:20:59,980 Aye. 299 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:01,400 Oh, same side. 300 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:03,980 A ditch 25. 301 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:07,290 Okay. 302 00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:10,010 Right, Digit 25, we're looking for approval. 303 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:15,910 This is for the assessment for 2017 redetermination of benefits and repairs. 304 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:26,050 The 2017 redetermination of benefits never got assessed, so we're trying to get this fund balance back into the positive. 305 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:35,190 So as of 2025 fiscal year end, County Digit 25 had negative fund balance of $525,104. 306 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:40,190 And again, this is made up from cost of redetermination of benefits. 307 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:50,170 There's assessments from Lucifer County Joint Ditch 54 because 25 drains into joint ditch 54. 308 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:57,150 And then Lucifer County had redetermined their benefits for joint ditch 54. 309 00:21:57,530 --> 00:22:03,610 And that identified the need for an assessment on county ditch 25. 310 00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:10,350 So there's two assessments from Lucera County out there, and then there's interest due for 311 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:18,810 loan because the general fund is covering this balance, and then there's other repair and operational cost. 312 00:22:19,910 --> 00:22:31,130 So again, I'm looking for approval for the assessment in the amount of $540,693 in 93 cents again to be paid by the benefit in land owners. 313 00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:38,990 And this will bring us to a fund balance, a positive fund balance of about $15,500 to $89. 314 00:22:40,970 --> 00:22:46,010 And this ditch is going to be re-determined again here. 315 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:52,230 It's on our re-determination schedule. 316 00:22:52,910 --> 00:23:00,650 So this $15,000 should cover us because there's not any repairs that will have at the meantime. 317 00:23:00,650 --> 00:23:03,710 time. Anything expected, anyway. 318 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:12,310 Okay, we do before we have any action taken, we do have one comment on 319 00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:19,770 ditch 25. If you're done with the presentation. Okay, Jim Dubon, please, if you want 320 00:23:19,770 --> 00:23:21,630 to come forward. 321 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Good morning. Good morning. 322 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:34,720 morning. Curious why this was all done in 2017 whites or the last redetermination was 323 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:41,780 done in 2017 and it's finally getting assessed now. Based off the half a million dollars there's 324 00:23:41,780 --> 00:23:48,520 going to be quite a few unhappy campers when they get these notices in the mail. As far as repairs 325 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,780 go I'm not aware of any that need to be done. There is some brush spreading that should be done 326 00:23:53,660 --> 00:24:01,380 before all that gets out of hand again, especially right next to the bridge on Union Lake Trail where all the wills are still growing. 327 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:12,900 And how much exactly is the joint ditch 54 assessment to our ditch 25? 328 00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:15,740 Or where can I find out information? 329 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:25,240 I think he's going to look that up and I'm going to just comment a little bit on I think because the county took 330 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:33,460 Jared, maybe you can explain when the county took over the ditches from the SWCD. 331 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:42,680 Well, that's been an answer to because off for the last 50 years, well, somebody's taking care of it, well, then nobody's taking care of it, and then somebody's taking care of it, nobody's taking care of it. 332 00:24:43,420 --> 00:24:46,940 So is that part going to change to where there's always somebody taking care of ditches? 333 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:50,000 Yes, it is. That's why we took it over. 334 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520 But what year it was, it's been two years now or three years. 335 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,220 Uh, yeah, since June of 2024, we took it over. 336 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:03,920 Yes, the county has. 337 00:25:04,820 --> 00:25:10,060 So there's still some trees and little tree and some brush there that those willows by the bridge. 338 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,960 Yeah, but I didn't see some last week I drove through there. 339 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,420 There is some op-a-mac at all of them, but it's not. 340 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:18,760 No, that the right next is okay with farther away. 341 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:19,680 You got to get those. 342 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,160 Then a curious question is, I was going through 343 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,840 the assessment roles here, albeit as real, 344 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:29,820 whoops, find print as it is. 345 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:37,540 Some of these, the benefited acres far out exceeds 346 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:40,900 the deeded acres, mine in particular. 347 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,500 So I'm kind of curious about that, or is that just somebody 348 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:46,360 chance posed in numbers and are on column? 349 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:52,510 I think you'd have to get together with Jared and Peggy 350 00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:54,750 on those exact acres. 351 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:55,570 I 352 00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:02,710 think that pretty much takes care of my comments. 353 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:03,650 Okay. 354 00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:09,050 So I don't enjoy dinge 54 thing is if there was a complete 355 00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:13,630 channel from right slay, from Cody to Phelps to right slake 356 00:26:13,630 --> 00:26:22,070 sandborne were actually would run into ditch 54. Most of us wouldn't complain. But it's all backed 357 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:29,170 up, especially between felps and rice and from rice to sandborne. From rice to sandborne, 358 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:34,810 there's ten feet of drop and it takes forever for water to run through that. Which is one of our 359 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:40,270 biggest beefs. Okay. We will in the next time we have a committee meeting we can. We're always told 360 00:26:40,270 --> 00:26:46,250 it's a natural water course and we can't do nothing about it which gets me real 361 00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:52,650 frustrating yes yes you know if we if we had to follow all the laws of today's 362 00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:56,190 which of which some of my think are done or it's stupid we want to have 363 00:26:56,190 --> 00:27:01,390 colony ditches and we want to have half the highways we have today something to 364 00:27:01,390 --> 00:27:11,350 think of okay thank you Peggy you got a number for us yes so in 2021 the 365 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:17,630 amount of the assessment was $46,554.62 that came from Lesuracone. 366 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:24,550 And then in 2025, it was $88,293.24. 367 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:35,860 I'll have to look into those acres. 368 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:45,560 It took a lot to put this file together based on what we were able to get from the last re-determination, so. 369 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:50,760 There's no comments online, is there for any of these ditches? 370 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:51,700 Okay. 371 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,760 And may I just say that deeded acres don't impact the benefited acres. 372 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:05,300 Like the re-determination is based off of the benefited acres as far as calculations go. 373 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:12,300 So if we did put something in fact in the deeded acres, it doesn't affect the benefited acres and the percent of benefit. 374 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:27,400 Mr. Chair, maybe as you get a hold of Jim's phone number and set up a meeting with him through this. 375 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,080 Any 376 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,440 other comments? 377 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:40,180 Okay, well, I am looking for a motion and a second on this at the moment. 378 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,580 Motion to approve. 379 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:53,720 So motion by Commissioner Purpose, second by Commissioner Underdall to approve ditch 25 assessments. 380 00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:56,220 Any other discussion? 381 00:28:57,980 --> 00:29:00,240 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 382 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Aye. 383 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Those same sign. 384 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,100 Motion approved. 385 00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:06,380 Move to go out of range authority. 386 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:07,500 Thank you. 387 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Second. 388 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:14,220 Motion by Commissioner Underdall, second by Commissioner Malacca to go out of drainage authority. 389 00:29:14,660 --> 00:29:16,240 All those in favor say aye. 390 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Aye. 391 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:18,160 Oh, same sign. 392 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,140 Next up is highway. 393 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:20,980 Dennis Louby. 394 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:21,580 And 395 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:27,320 everyone. 396 00:29:27,860 --> 00:29:28,080 Morning. 397 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,320 We have three items today. 398 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:39,580 First off, would be resolution 26, 027, and the men.agreement number 106, 3268. 399 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:50,160 Those two actions will make us eligible to receive up to the $271,653 and one 400 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:56,140 cent. For two culvert replacements on County Road 16, we talked about it 401 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:59,760 I think two weeks ago. The contractor, we have a pre-construction meeting. 402 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,400 Later today, they're able to get the materials delivered this fall. This is the MINDOT language and agreement to receive that money to help pay for those two projects. So I'd recommend approval of the resolution and agreement. We'll do approve. Second. Give it to Purpose. Motion by commission or under the second by commission or purpose to approve resolution 26-027, any discussion. 403 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,540 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 404 00:30:33,980 --> 00:30:34,180 Aye. 405 00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:37,360 All the same, sign, motion passes. 406 00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:44,300 Okay, next up is the final payment for a contract by Minnowal Construction. 407 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:48,100 This would be our box culvert up in Northfield. 408 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,220 We've got the paperwork's received as in my office. 409 00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:55,600 I don't have it for your signature today, but it'll be produced. 410 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,440 So we're ready to final that contract, all aspects of that work. 411 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:09,640 And the final payment is only $6,682.51, and we're ready to close that one out. 412 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:12,540 Motion to approve? 413 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,000 Second. 414 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:20,400 Well, motion by Commissioner Heisenkton, second by Commissioner Malacca, any discussion. 415 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,540 There's no liability with that. 416 00:31:23,780 --> 00:31:24,180 That's correct. 417 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:30,620 We're done all resolved with the contractor and the city of Northfield the joint project with the city of Northfield 418 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:35,320 They're paying about half of the construction costs. So okay, we're good 419 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,060 Any other questions discussion? 420 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:45,940 Seeing none all those in favor of final payment to minnowaw say aye. Hi. Oh, same sign 421 00:31:46,660 --> 00:31:47,640 motion passes 422 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,740 last up is the long talked about much awaited action item for 423 00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:59,040 Trunk Highway 246, a portion of that to be turned back to the city of Northfield. 424 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:06,320 That's been discussed for multiple years anyway and we've talked about it before. 425 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:13,700 So this action really is just a pass through action that once the board signs today 426 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:32,140 It's my understanding the City Council of Northfield will sign the same agreement tonight and then it'll be shipped off to Mindot for their execution and that will complete the official transfer of the road road right away there to the city of Northfield and it will be theirs from now on. 427 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:39,920 So there's no financial impact to us. We're just approving that process and today's the day for that. 428 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,040 Motion to approve. 429 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Second. 430 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,460 Motion by Commissioner Purpose, second by Commissioner Malca 431 00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:52,960 to approve the transfer to the city of Northfield. 432 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,500 Any discussion on this? 433 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,820 Seeing none, all those in favour say aye. 434 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,340 Aye. 435 00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:00,580 I will same sign. 436 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,340 Okay. 437 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,880 Thank you. 438 00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:03,880 Thank you. 439 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:09,080 Outside agency appropriations, we've gone through the list 440 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,200 and seeing that about a month ago, 441 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,100 I am going to make a motion that we decrease from the 442 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:29,540 2026 board approved across the board 10% except for the insurances of the historical society 443 00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:35,620 and the Axis ID that we give them the requested 2027 amounts. 444 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:38,100 I'll second that. 445 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,320 Okay, we have a motion by myself, a second by Commissioner Purpose Discussion. 446 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,940 Over here. 447 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Commissioner Malca, yes. 448 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:56,000 I think that is really poor on our part to cut these agencies. 449 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,940 Freeze, I could understand. 450 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:04,580 But cutting a lot of them, do a lot of work for us. 451 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:13,280 No matter how you look at it, you might not see it upfront, but they do a lot of work for us at the county. 452 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:20,400 And I think it's absolutely wrong to cut 10% out of their appropriation. 453 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,480 And if you sit there and think and you go through the list, you'll figure how each and 454 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:34,720 every one of them touched the county from the libraries to the senior centers and you 455 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:43,820 think about what the senior centers do for us and the programs that they put on trying 456 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:47,580 to keep people healthy and in their own homes. 457 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:55,320 And the fact that we'd be paying a lot more if we have to put more people in nursing homes. 458 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,900 It's going to require more staff, it's going to require more dollars. 459 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,940 So you have to think about the cause and effect here of what we're doing. 460 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,280 Again, freeze, you know, I'm for free, I am not for cutting. 461 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:21,200 I just don't think it's right, I don't think it's fair that we're cutting them. 462 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:29,700 I know we have our own issues that we'll be facing, but at the same time, you pull the pin and see the dominoes fall. 463 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:37,170 You really need to think about what we're doing here at 10% of 464 00:35:39,830 --> 00:35:45,330 cutting anything to be honest with you when you look at each and every one of these and what they do for the county. 465 00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:58,450 Well, when I gave their presentations, I do see a lot of overlap in some of them, so I think they could work better together personally. 466 00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:10,610 I do have an issue with the three libraries, and I think there's a disproportionate amount given to Northfield overfareable lawnsdale. 467 00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:21,850 I'd like to see those amounts re-determined, especially, no matter if we keep the same or reduce them, because I think just looking at quick populations, 468 00:36:22,450 --> 00:36:32,630 Lawnsdale is way underfunded compared to the other two, and I just see a lot of overlap in some of the stuff. 469 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:38,110 I think we need to just do a back them up and do a baseline. 470 00:36:39,690 --> 00:36:47,590 What was it gonna? Like Southern Minnesota tourism, I've noted in their presentation that there 471 00:36:47,590 --> 00:36:57,910 was about seven counties that totally dropped them to zero. So you know it's just part of it. 472 00:36:57,910 --> 00:37:06,870 some of them had money in the bank still from last year so that's my two cents on that subject. 473 00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:08,910 Any other comments? 474 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:16,270 When you look at this, I guess so my thoughts on it, 475 00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:26,390 there's almost $700,000 of this. It's going to free these agencies. 476 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:48,400 I agree with Commissioner Mallica, you know, a freeze on all four that I also know that 477 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:56,240 going through budgets, a lot of these months have been static for years actually, you know, 478 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,760 we haven't granted any increases to them at all. 479 00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:05,180 And I know we need to try and, you know, 480 00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:07,380 to the line on what we're doing. 481 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:13,200 I guess in my perspective on it, 482 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,000 you know, a lot of these smaller agencies are some of them 483 00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:21,600 that we really rely heavily on, you know, 484 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:25,760 with some of our work that the county does. 485 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,300 as a social services and public health 486 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:30,160 and different things like that, 487 00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:32,900 where they are good partners. 488 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:36,760 And I think some of them, you know, 489 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,820 we've tried to like hope center, 490 00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:41,760 we've actually tried to help them along 491 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,660 a little bit more. 492 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:46,280 And I hate to see this go backwards on that. 493 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,860 You know, relative to your point, 494 00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:50,960 Charlie, about the libraries, 495 00:38:52,540 --> 00:38:54,140 I think in the past, 496 00:38:54,140 --> 00:39:13,060 I've had advocated that Lawnsdale needs a bigger share of, you know, that pie that we've got there, and I don't have the percentage, but I know in our maintenance of effort that the state requires a rice county, we far exceed that for the three libraries together. 497 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:19,020 so I mean the city's it's interesting and again I've been on another side of 498 00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:24,900 the equation Galen has to you know where as it is a state councilor you're 499 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:30,740 looking for dollars to help you know your budget but the city's also have the 500 00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:36,440 ability to love you for those dollars themselves too you know and not 501 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:44,640 I don't rely totally on the county, but like I say, I'm not really excited about looking at a reduction. 502 00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:53,360 You know, maybe a reallocation as Commissioner Peters is talking about, I might consider that. 503 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,300 If I can add one more thing. 504 00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:03,560 I think if we're going to look at the libraries, that's going to have to be a next year thing, 505 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:10,040 versus a here today thing, to be honest and fair to them. 506 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,360 I think that yes, we meet the state statute requirements. 507 00:40:15,940 --> 00:40:22,300 But I do think that we need to, if we're going to reduce, 508 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,940 then we need to call them to the table and look at how we reallocate. 509 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,200 I agree with the lawn sale thing. 510 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:37,120 we've talked about that for a few years that they certainly need to have more. 511 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:44,660 I think we did give them a boost here a few years ago, four years ago, did we give them 512 00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:45,800 boost them up a little bit? 513 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,920 Commissioner Dockin was here when we did that. 514 00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:54,720 But I do agree that we need to look at law and state situation to see what we can do there. 515 00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:03,420 But if we're looking at trying to be allocate or reduce that I think that they need the the libraries need to be at the table with us 516 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:04,340 Well, 517 00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,840 I'd like to see the reallocation done 518 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,740 This year actually so we can maybe 519 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,520 Push that out to another meeting and invite them here because we're you know right now 520 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:29,480 Lodgedale only gets like 6.4% they should be up around 10 and you know so it's 521 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,900 and the other two are pretty close to where they were but Lodgedale is 522 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:43,000 really and we do pay out with the three libraries 464,000 and some the state 523 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,760 only says we have to pay 311,000 to the libraries right there's the letter 524 00:41:52,580 --> 00:41:58,720 Well, then if you want that done this year, then we probably need to have the two of you 525 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:04,160 withdraw your motions and then table this to another meeting. 526 00:42:06,970 --> 00:42:10,910 Well, we could, the main motion was the 10% reduction. 527 00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:27,730 So then we could just, I could redo the motion for the 10% reduction and then I'll move another motion forward for reallocation amongst the three libraries. 528 00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:36,690 So I will draw the reallocation part of my motion and just go motion across the board of 10% decrease. 529 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:41,610 from the 2026 approved, except for the two 530 00:42:41,610 --> 00:42:46,350 insurances, they would get their agency requests 531 00:42:46,350 --> 00:42:47,990 for 2027. 532 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,540 I was a motion. 533 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,520 You were drawing that motion? 534 00:42:57,540 --> 00:43:00,760 I drew the first motion and I made a new motion. 535 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,320 Do you think your second motion is the same as the first? 536 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,780 I didn't have the library allocation in there. 537 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:10,280 The second motion, it said we'll push that back. 538 00:43:15,630 --> 00:43:44,170 I would draw the motion for the 10% decrease with considering the library allocations at the same time and then my new motion states that I'd like to have a 10% decrease across the board for all the outside agencies keeping the historical society in the 539 00:43:44,170 --> 00:43:45,050 2027. 540 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,520 I'm going to second that. 541 00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:53,020 Any other discussion? 542 00:43:55,750 --> 00:44:04,970 Clarifications. I'm still just a little bit confused. We're withdrawing the 10% cut all 543 00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:10,670 together. We're withdrawing that, right? No, that came forward. The library reallocations 544 00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:14,550 will bring up at a certain, at a different motion. 545 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,620 So just repeat the motion so I understand 546 00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:23,760 I'm sorry to advocate it, but I just don't know what it was. 547 00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:31,260 So the new motion states that we're looking at 10% cut outside agencies across the board, 548 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:36,900 except for historical society insurance and egg society insurance, 549 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:44,480 we would grant them their 2027 requests because it's an insurance thing. 550 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,680 And Jim, I believe that's. 551 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:50,420 I agree with that, 552 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:56,320 Jerry, do you have that, you okay with this? 553 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,000 Yes, I understand what you're saying now. 554 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,980 So we're, we're, we're ticked, we're ticked. 555 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:30,140 Any 10% off everybody's budget. Yeah, except for those two lions. Mr. Chair, if I could, yes, go ahead, commissioner of purpose. Ever since I've been on, which is shorter than some of you, but these people are always asking for an increase, which I'm not saying it's not needed. But we have to, in my mind, we have to protect the people of our county, too. We just can't raise 556 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,800 these issues or these different companies year after year. 557 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,380 I guess I'm in favor of cutting back. 558 00:45:41,980 --> 00:45:45,620 And then next year, let's start this process a little earlier. 559 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,720 Let's invite the libraries in and let's reset the numbers. 560 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,880 I know when soil and water, the state came out a couple years ago with the program for 561 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:05,020 them and you know as you can see they didn't ask for anything this year but they've got a pretty 562 00:46:05,020 --> 00:46:12,760 good savings account down there currently and I don't think we want a these are levy dollars I 563 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:18,500 don't think we want to keep taxing the people for somebody else to have a savings account and I would 564 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:25,640 like to just back up and rework these numbers probably next year I do believe the staff needs 565 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,820 It needs to have time to put their levy numbers together. 566 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,340 So I think it's important we move forward with something, but 567 00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:38,500 I'm in favor of this 10% reduction except for the insurances. 568 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:42,420 The other two, I'm always in favor. 569 00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:50,980 Yeah, I think as a board, we've all agreed that the increase in our levy's over the past three years is not sustainable. 570 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:57,520 I think it's upward to 25 or 26% over the last three years. 571 00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:09,380 We at some point need to be sensitive to our levy dollars in the taxes that we're charging to people. 572 00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:18,800 I mean, I'm a huge fan of the libraries, it doesn't, this is a hard decision to make, but 573 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:24,240 But it has no reflection on what we think of these organizations and the good they do in our communities. 574 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,160 I think during this whole budget process now that we're going to be going through, 575 00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:38,160 we're going to have to make it some additional hard decisions that aren't going to be comfortable. 576 00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:44,180 But we have to be realistic about people are being taxed. 577 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,540 Their taxes and insurance are starting to become larger than their marketing payments. 578 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,600 And at some point, we need to pull the reins in. 579 00:47:56,060 --> 00:48:03,140 So as much as I would hate to, I agree 100% with what Gaelin said about these organizations and 580 00:48:03,140 --> 00:48:04,700 they do in our communities. 581 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,340 But I think we're forced to make some hard decisions this year. 582 00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:18,160 And we've been, maybe, I'll speak for myself, maybe a little too passive as far as the increases that have happened. 583 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:27,480 So, I regretfully think that I regretfully support this decision, I guess, of cutting it. 584 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:29,300 Mr. Chair. 585 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:31,320 Mr. Malco. 586 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:44,760 So, I'll go back to saying I think it would be fair if we froze them for this year and send out a notice that it's all dependent upon votes, right? 587 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:53,400 And bringing them to the table that they would get a 10% budget cut next year that could change. 588 00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:02,080 There are elections this year, right, and seats could change, seats might not change. 589 00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:04,740 But I do think that it would be fair. 590 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:11,740 I don't think it's fair that we're cutting without having given some notice I had a time 591 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:14,640 that the plan is to cut this. 592 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,340 So my belief is we should either table it and bring it up at a future meeting and let these 593 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:21,000 people know. 594 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:32,960 ahead of time of the pending cut or we freeze and then deal with it earlier next year and 595 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,220 bringing people to the table. 596 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,700 Any other discussion? 597 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,360 Well, there's no question. 598 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440 It's unfortunate that we're at this point. 599 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,360 We have to have a preliminary budget in place by September 27th. 600 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,000 Yeah, so our last business meeting in a month, we have to have it. 601 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,100 So we don't have much time on our side of it. 602 00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:07,090 It's doing with the, you know, the concept, you know, the concept or reality of trying to, you know, 603 00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:16,290 and so our budget, I fully understand that and I'm not, you know, opposed to trying to take some measures. 604 00:50:19,090 --> 00:50:26,530 It would seem to me a little bit that it would be rather than 10% across the board and be a little bit more surgical about it. 605 00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:29,990 That's not as easy to do, I understand it. 606 00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:35,190 And again, we don't have the luxury of time here right now for it. 607 00:50:35,970 --> 00:50:37,810 And, you know, it's Commissioner Malik, it's time 608 00:50:37,810 --> 00:50:39,770 about, you know, if we had more time, 609 00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:42,170 we could have people come in and talk to us again about it. 610 00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:45,190 But at the end of the day, it's still up to us 611 00:50:45,790 --> 00:50:48,730 to make that final decision on it. 612 00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:52,830 And, you know, I kind of come back to, you know, 613 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:55,310 really there's two, if you look at it broadly, 614 00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:58,790 it's so on water and libraries are, you know, 615 00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:03,850 they're the ones that are going to get the brunt of a 10% cut if that's the way 616 00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:05,710 the direction of the board goes. 617 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:09,430 Like I 618 00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:17,920 say, time-wise is really tough one for me 619 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:24,300 right now. I would much rather and I don't think the sentiment of the board is 620 00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:31,440 going that direction but to have done something a little more surgical with it in any kind of a cut. 621 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,560 Any other discussion? 622 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,780 Comments. 623 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:51,100 Okay, right now we have the motion and a second on the floor for the 10% cut across the board except the two insurances that we would grant their 2027 request. 624 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,480 All those in favor say aye. 625 00:51:54,060 --> 00:51:54,320 Aye. 626 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:56,720 All those opposed same sign? 627 00:51:57,380 --> 00:51:57,660 No. 628 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,760 Okay, do a roll call. 629 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,500 Allica. 630 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:01,980 No. 631 00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:02,960 Poisonton. 632 00:52:03,340 --> 00:52:03,760 Yeah. 633 00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:04,660 Eaters. 634 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,140 Yes. 635 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:05,760 First. 636 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,440 Yes. 637 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,200 Underdog. 638 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:07,880 Hey. 639 00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:10,400 Emotion passes. 640 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,460 Three to two. 641 00:52:12,580 --> 00:52:14,620 I'd also like to bring up. 642 00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:17,260 I think we should do the libraries. 643 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,920 Renegotiations as soon as we can. 644 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,780 I don't know if we can have those agencies come in. 645 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,980 Because I just see a huge. 646 00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:37,420 And I know the Lawnsdale library tries with what they have, but they do do a lot of outreach now and they have a lot of programs. 647 00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:41,900 So that's where I'm coming from with the Lawnsdale system. 648 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,800 I'd like to do that this year yet if possible. 649 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,340 So I don't know how we could... 650 00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,120 Leave that up to the end to figure that out. 651 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:07,100 Yes, if they want to bring them in and we could figure out either a per capita charge or how we're going to draw the circle around them to figure out percentages. 652 00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:12,340 So I will talk to Sarah on that 653 00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:17,810 consent agenda. 654 00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:28,020 Yep, next on the list is consent agenda with overtime payment of bills and personal appointments recommending approval motion to approve. 655 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:36,440 second motion by Commissioner Malca, second by Commissioner Heisington for approval of the consent agenda. 656 00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:40,540 Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 657 00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:41,300 Aye. 658 00:53:41,860 --> 00:53:45,740 All same sign, consent agenda approved. 659 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,280 And I believe that is motion to adjourn. 660 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:52,600 Second. 661 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,780 The motion by Commissioner Malca, second by Commissioner Underdoll for adjournment. 662 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,360 All those in favor say aye. 663 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,160 Aye. 664 00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:02,940 Meeting adjourned, thank you everyone.