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this thing started considering we have a

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3:00 uh meeting right after this. All

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right, it is now 2 p.m. on September

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1st, 2026. It is now the time for the

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affordable housing ad hoc committee

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meeting and this meeting will come to

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order. Uh madame clerk, if you'll call

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the role.

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» Weaver

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» Here.

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» Cooper

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» Here. Ailen

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» Maki,

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we have a quorum.

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» Very good. Okay. Next on the agenda, we

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have um approval of minutes. Are there

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any changes that anyone wants to see to

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motion to approve the minutes.

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» Move to approve the minutes.

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» Second.

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» Okay. It's been made a motion and

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seconded. Uh madame clerk, would you

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call that?

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» Teratio?

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» Yes. Ailen,

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» Maki, motion approved.

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» Okay. Next on the agenda, we have

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adoption of the agenda. U Mr. Brown or

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any staff member, any changes that

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you're aware of?

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» No changes, Mr. Chair.

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» Okay. Very good. I will accept a motion

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to approve the agenda.

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» So move.

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» Okay. It's been moved and seconded.

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Madame clerk, will you call that please

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» Terio.

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» Yes. Ailen.

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» Okay. And next is the best part. Our

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» Uh yes, sir. Uh we'll just go in order

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if it's okay with uh the committee.

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» Absolutely.

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» Uh so for 4 A, we're going to recognize,

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if you would, uh Mr. here uh director of

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community planning development Cathia

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Williams uh to give us an uh update

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regarding uh the Richland County and

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Columbia Housing Rehab Partnership.

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» Okay, very good.

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» Good afternoon.

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This is just a verbal update. It wasn't

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um that much to update the briefing

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document from our last time we got

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together. Um, we did let you know at the

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last meeting in that briefing that

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Columbia Housing had submitted their

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request to release a declaration of

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trust back in July. They confirmed that

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was done. They've talked through the HUD

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reps. They had to do a couple of

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revisions to their application. They

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still anticipate receiving the release

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um in late October, but in the meantime

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um they've sent over an agreement

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specifically to the HUD funded homes

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because we have some timeliness with the

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home funds that were satisfied with that

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that the office of grants and community

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outreach are reviewing with the county

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attorney's office. That agreement will

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allow us to do some work on those HUDf

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funed homes before the release of the

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declaration of trust. So, they're

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working very diligent diligently to try

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to get that agreement finalized and

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cleaned up with the goal of doing some

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of the work starting on those homes

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September 24th. So, that is kind of the

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goal with that. The other homes, we

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anticipate more movement once that

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release of the declaration of trust

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comes through. Uh we've already prompted

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them to say now that we've got the

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agreement for some of the HUD funded

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homes, can we look at agreements related

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to the general funded homes so we can

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also get some movement on those homes as

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agreement with them. We've already asked

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for an update related to that. Um, and

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application procedures for the general

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fund homes. But that's kind of the brief

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update of what's happening um with that

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partnership with Columbia Housing.

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» Any questions from any of the committee

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members for Director Williams?

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contractors. Has that already been done

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trust through HUD, they'll be

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transferred to Columbia Housing's

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Columbia Houses Development Authority,

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their Chad. Uh they are working to

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already identify contractors um related

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to the HUDF funded homes, the homes

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we're using block grants funds for. So,

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they'll they're working on that process

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because they'll be serving as uh the the

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Chad we're working with to do those

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rehabilitations. The contractors for the

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other homes have not gone through that

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process to be selected just yet.

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» Uh once it's completed, the work is

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work on them in September, each home has

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a different amount of time associated

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each house is going to take 3, six, 90

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days, I get that like that. Um, so sorry

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setting, but yeah, we're trying to

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hopefully get the work started and once

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better timeline of how long it will take

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to complete the repairs.

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» So, apparently they don't want us going

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over there during the process is is kind

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of what I'm hearing,

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finalized as far as plans as this home

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needs this amount of work done and that

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contractor's on board, then we know

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better. It's going to take us 30 days to

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do this repair versus it may take 60

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» All right. Yeah, Counciloman Tracio.

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» Uh, just listening in on this exchange.

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I'm hoping like I'm guessing that we are

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documenting the process because I think

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it'd be great to show folks, you know,

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what we've been able to do, maybe what

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some of these homes needed and how they

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ended up so that we we can show folks

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really be proud of that we're doing.

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for [snorts] the update. All right, Mr.

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Brown, you want to move on?

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» Yes, sir, Mr. Chair. So, the next item

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will also be addressed by uh Director

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application procedures for a home

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rehabilitation project. Uh there is some

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uh updates in your packet, but Director

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» Okay. Um, so again, in anticipation of

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come back to council with some

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recommendations for how we would select

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the potential owners or applicants for

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those homes. That's those guid the

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guidelines in front of you. Um, in

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about making the general funded homes

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available to, uh, folks that fall within

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that 80 to 120 AMI, average medium

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income, because the other funded homes

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through the block grant funds will be

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the low moderate income up to the 80%

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AMI. So, we just need a little bit more

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guidance from council. So in the

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guidelines um there are a lot of bullet

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points that I listed of things that we

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know key for this discussion

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one being the first bullet point

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eligible participants must be a

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government government official employee

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or teacher with preference to employees

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of Richland County. We just want to get

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a little bit more guidance from the

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committee. Um there was a lot of things

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thrown out of who we wanted these homes

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to potentially go to um that may fall

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within that um above 80 to 120 AMI. So

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we just want to make sure we're clear on

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these are the areas you want to

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prioritize or do you want to just narrow

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it where it's specifically just to

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government employees take out teachers

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government employees. Um so that's why

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guidelines all of that because all of

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related to that. Um the other two bullet

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discussion uh is the applicant

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maintaining the location as their

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primary residence for at least 5 years

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from the date of closing just to make

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sure you're good with that time frame of

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five years. Are you thinking longer? In

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the guidelines, we have some

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recommendations of how we may recoup

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some of the money we may spend into the

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rehab based off the length of time they

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spend in there if they move before the

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five years. And then finally, the

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conflict of interest um recommendations.

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What's in the guidelines currently were

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based off of the previous conflict of

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interest requirements related to some of

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the minor home repair and down payment

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assistance programs that were happening

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in our block grants department. that is

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very stringent. Um, and as you can see

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by the county attorney's note, that

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eliminates about a 100 plus in community

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planning development. There's a it's a

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100 people in my department. So that's

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at least 100 people who would not

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qualify. Um, we put that in there so you

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could see what the original um

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recommendation was, but since then we've

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kind of looked at what Grants Community

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that conflict of interest to people who

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have a direct directly touching the

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program are the ones who would have the

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conflict of interest versus you're in

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the county attorney's office, you never

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touch the contracts associated with

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this, you can still qualify for it. So,

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we just want to make sure point that out

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because that was a note to see if you

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have any concerns with that or if you

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want all the people within the

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departments that may touch it to be um

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considered a potential conflict of

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interest. But I guess those are the

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three ones that I think are the big

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ones. But I just like to bring it back

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to the first one that I brought up

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eligible eligibility. Um any thoughts

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related to just county employees,

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government employees, but also expanding

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it to teachers and even within county

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employees? I know there's been

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discussion of, you know, potentially

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first responders. I just want to make

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sure I put it in here correctly because

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everybody will there will be a lot of

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interest in this program. And with the

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general fund, we're only doing four to

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five houses to start off with.

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» Any questions for Director Williams?

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» Cooper. No, no questions. Okay. I

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» I don't have a question, but I just want

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to make a comment that um I think I

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I agree with the recommendations that

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the staff is bringing forth specifically

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when we look at eligible um governmental

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um

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officers or official officers. I think

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that when we we look at the teachers

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employees if they're employed by

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Richland County um and then taking a

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step further when we look at our

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educators employed by a Richland County

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school district um even though Lexington

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Richland 5 is not funded through

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Richland County government they are part

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of Richland County and I think if uh

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Councilman Brandham was here he would

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argue that point again. Uh so I think

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when we look the educators are probably

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this the stickier um topic. Uh but

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everyone else if they are employed by

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Richland County in some sort, we have to

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also take into consideration our fire

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department because our fire department

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is funded um from the city as well as

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the county.

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And so I would like to include I think

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including them would also be helpful.

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And then to your other recommendation

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um

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eliminating

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folks because they are in particular

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departments but have nothing to do with

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the grant I think is unfair.

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Um, so I would like to take your

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recommendation to um those individuals

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who actually touch the project. Um, and

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I and I think I've shared my personal

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stories as being a local business owner

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right here in Richland County there

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during CO I could not participate in in

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some of the funding that was, you know,

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offered by the county because I was a

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county council member. Uh, but I owned a

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company that was closed for 11 months.

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Um, definitely could have used those

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funds, but I didn't necessarily touch

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those projects. So, county council is

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probably one of those things. We touch

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everything. So, of course, we, you know,

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we get eliminated, but people that like

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in your department and other

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departments, I think it's we do oursel a

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disservice if we don't. Um because I

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look forward to the day then it's more

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than just five houses. Thank you.

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» Okay. Anyone else? Councilwoman Alen.

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» Thank you. When you say eligible um

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particip participants must be government

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officials. Are we talking just Richland

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County? Because it goes on to say with

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preference given to employees of

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Richland County. So does the

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recommendation

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include for instance state um government

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employees?

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» That's a good question. Yes. So it is

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all government. So state, local,

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federal, um with preference given to

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Richland County employees. So it does

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that that was one of the reason we want

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to discuss it because it says government

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um not particularly in here, but you

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know the question may even come up

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nonprofits considered quasi. We didn't

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even put that in there, but um just want

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to bring that up if you want to keep it

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just lo state or local government or

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just Richland County government. Thank

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you. Okay.

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» Yeah. So, if I may, Mr. Chair,

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» Go ahead.

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» So, that's one of those things where

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there's information there, but we do

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need

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um that to be specific. So, one of the

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things I I would ask uh attorney right,

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please let me know if this is not

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necessary. But I think that in my mind

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would require a motion so that it's

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clear that this particular body and

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ultimately potentially the council that

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they are given direction that this plan

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um is for those purposes. So hope that's

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not too much, but I just I think that's

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going to help down the line when we have

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interested parties um and there's a

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dispute.

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We don't have if we don't have a motion.

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» Mr. Chair,

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» Mr. Chair. Oh, Councilman Cooper,

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» The attorney wants to speak.

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» Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Attorney, and I

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would agree that I think it u it does

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require or need a motion to to make the

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adjustments. U I did also want to point

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out that if you say just Rich County,

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that would exclude firefighters or fire

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department as well as 911 because

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they're city of Columbia employees, not

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Richland County employees.

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» Okay. I think I'd recognize Councilwoman

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Cooper and I think Councilwoman Little

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wants to weigh in, but Miss Cooper, go

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ahead.

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» I'll defer. Okay,

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» I'll I defer to Councilwoman um Little I

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because I was getting ready to make a

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motion.

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» Had to remember I wasn't on this

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committee because I wanted to make one

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too, but I just wanted [laughter]

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» I just want to make a comment. Um, when

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we're talking speaking about the

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firefighters and because they are City

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of Colombia employees, the city has a

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program that they use for their

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employees already. So, it's not like

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they would be excluded because the city

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has something very similar that they're

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doing. I think it's called home keys or

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I can't remember what it is, but they

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they have a program. They're still

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covered.

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» That's correct. The city does have a

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program for city employees. That's a

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good point, Councilwoman Cooper.

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» Yeah. So before I make the motion, um,

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and

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I I hear and I I remember the program

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for the city, but I'm I'm wondering, you

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know,

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keeping all things clean and with some

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continuity even if we do still include

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them in the motion, noting that they

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have an option, but if they've received

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funding from one spot, then they perhaps

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could not receive funding from another

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spot. Uh that would be

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that's a question before I make the

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motion because I you know I would say

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that you know if they were if they you

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know I would make my motion to say with

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the exception of um

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Columbia Richland Fire Department or

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firefighters they would you know they

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would be included to have them be

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included uh in ours and then note that

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if they were included

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they could not rece receive additional

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funding from somewhere else. But I'm I

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mean, now that I'm talking out loud,

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they they're buying a home.

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» So,

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» That's correct.

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» You know, if they get funding from one

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spot, I can't imagine they're trying to

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buy two and three homes because it's for

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Yeah, because it's for their res primary

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residents.

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» I think Councilwomania wanted to weigh

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in.

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» Thank you. And yeah, this uh this brings

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up something else for me, which is, you

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know, do we have um I don't know, let's

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just say that there is a Richland County

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uh employee, they're married to a

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firefighter and the firefighter has

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gotten some benefit through the city of

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Columbia. You know, how do we make sure

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that um you know, folks are um that

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we're not double dip? Yeah, that's the

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word I was looking. I was trying to find

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a better word, but that's that's is

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that's good enough for now. Okay. Um,

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and then the other thing that I wanted

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to uh mention was just the um the bullet

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point on here for the eligibility that

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just gives me a little bit of pause is

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the firsttime home buyer uh bullet. And

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I can understand probably most of my

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colleagues are like, well, of course,

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these are going to be first-time home

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buyers, but they might be somebody who,

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I don't know, had a like bought a home

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decades ago and then found themselves

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renting for a long time due to, you

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know, circumstances.

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Um, and yes, that so divorce, change of

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jobs, uh, death in the family, something

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like that. Is there a way to um maybe

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look at that as a part of the policy to

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say maybe

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if if there was a period of time that

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somebody would need to be a renter

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before you know between because you know

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again like maybe you were able to buy a

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house before 2008 and you haven't been

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able to do so since. So that's kind of

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what I'm thinking about.

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» Okay. Councilwoman I Oh, I'm sorry.

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Councilwoman Eileen and then Director

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Williams if you want to weigh in. Um, I

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I have one question. T usually when you

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see the firsttime home buyers program,

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seems like there's always a reference to

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three years that they couldn't have

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owned a home three years prior. Is that

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correct? And

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» So with that on on both of your points,

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if you look at um eligible participants,

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the actual um guidance document D1 and

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two, it gives the definition of

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firsttime home buyer. I think we can

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expand upon that definition um because

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it shows that um sorry I don't know the

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page number in the actual agenda but

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it's the um

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» First page thank you page 12. Uh so the

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way we are currently defining it is a

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individual and their spouse who have not

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owned a home during the three-year

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period prior to the purchase of a home

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with assistance under this program or an

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individual or family which has been

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displaced and is transitioning to become

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a homeowner. The term displace refers to

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any person who moves from real property

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as a direct result of acquisition, fire,

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rehabilitation, or demolition. So, what

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we can do is just make sure it's very

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clear and kind of work on that language

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to make sure it clearly states um some

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of the things I think you're saying is

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your intent.

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» Thank you. Yes.

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» Okay. Any final comments before a

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motion? Councilwoman Eileen,

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» I do have one question um in terms of

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the applicants and who's eligible. Um,

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this council voted some time ago um to

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set aside 15%

548
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,640
um of the previous year's accommodation.

549
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,600
They made these individuals eligible.

550
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:36,000
And I just wonder um about the exclusion

551
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,760
of firefighters and 911 employees and

552
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,480
whether or not they're actually included

553
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,880
in this particular motion. So, it's

554
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,919
really a question I have. Um for that

555
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:48,400
motion it was uh Richland County

556
00:21:45,919 --> 00:21:50,880
employees public safety EMS Richland one

557
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,080
and two teachers and teachers employed

558
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,320
at Lexington Richland District 5 uh to

559
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,200
in schools that are located in Richland

560
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,240
County. So, do do those individuals do

561
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:06,440
fall within the public safety

562
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,440
um umbrella.

563
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,440
» You're right. I think they're waiting.

564
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,440
They're expecting to guess,

565
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,760
» Right? You want me Let me jump in there

566
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,760
real quick. So, just you just read the

567
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,280
motion and you're absolutely right. Um,

568
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,520
and I think your real question is

569
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:31,039
whether or not we can cross over because

570
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,919
that motion was for a tax. Uh, and

571
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,760
» It's more about are we being

572
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:36,240
inconsistent

573
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,600
is is I guess what I'm asking. On the

574
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,440
one hand, we're saying they're eligible

575
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520
under this program, but we don't want

576
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,120
them. And and certainly that's our our

577
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,679
right. I'm not saying it's not, but I'm

578
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,919
I'm thinking of more the inconsistency.

579
00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:50,400
» Okay. So,

580
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:51,919
so if we were being consistent, then the

581
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,799
answer to your question would be yes,

582
00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:57,120
council member, the those public safety

583
00:22:54,799 --> 00:23:01,919
personnel or public safety personnel

584
00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:04,960
regardless. Uh, and so if if for a ease

585
00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:07,440
of use, we did not want to draw a

586
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,480
distinction between general fund dollars

587
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,520
and a tax dollars, then I think that's

588
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:17,919
where you go back to your preference.

589
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Um, I think I don't know if that you can

590
00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:23,120
necessarily make you you all can. Let me

591
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:26,640
not limit you on your abilities.

592
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:29,039
The a motion that would address what

593
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:33,679
you're trying to accomplish without

594
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:36,640
excluding but then allowing for funding

595
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,799
to be available in some secondary nature

596
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,520
to what other funding may be available

597
00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:44,320
from different sources certainly I think

598
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,240
makes sense. Um, I can't think of how we

599
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,880
could work that off just right now off

600
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,679
of the top of of my head, but it sounds

601
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,320
like that would be the nuance that would

602
00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:57,919
give the program the ability

603
00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:00,960
to operate consistently and not exclude

604
00:23:57,919 --> 00:24:02,880
any of those public safety personnel

605
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:08,440
regardless of the funding that's being

606
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,440
used to support uh this housing program.

607
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,960
Councilwoman

608
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,640
Cooper, I think we're next.

609
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,760
» I'm gonna I'm going to take a stab at a

610
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:25,440
motion. Um, and the motion

611
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:31,720
that I'm going to make is I move

612
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:31,720
uh to make eligible participants.

613
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:41,039
criteria

614
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:44,720
mirror the existing a tax

615
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:47,600
program already in place.

616
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,120
» Second.

617
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,960
» Okay, we have a motion and a second. Mr.

618
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:53,679
Brown, does that seem to fulfill what

619
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,039
you're hoping for?

620
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:56,880
» Yes, I believe that answer the question

621
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,200
that council member Alen was was

622
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,679
addressing. Yes, sir. [laughter]

623
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,039
» Okay, we have a motion in a second. Um I

624
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:04,320
think we're ready for a vote if there's

625
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:04,880
no more discussion. No, Councilwoman

626
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,279
Tracio,

627
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,720
» Just one more. I mean, I I love this

628
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:12,960
program. I don't know, you know, how how

629
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,159
long it will last, how many homes, how

630
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,000
many folks will be affected. Um, I'm

631
00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:21,919
thinking about maybe future iterations

632
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,960
of the program. And, uh, if there is a

633
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:28,559
want, need, desire to open it up further

634
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:31,840
or, you know, contract or expand. I did

635
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:35,039
my hands differently. contract or expand

636
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,600
uh who's eligible that can be revisited

637
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:39,360
if there's a later trunch of homes or

638
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,440
something like that that comes out. Is

639
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,520
that fair to say?

640
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,000
» Yes, ma'am. That's fair to say. Um once

641
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,919
we go through this first amount of

642
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,600
funding related to these homes, I think

643
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:51,440
it's fair to say we kind of revisit the

644
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,520
program to see how it worked or did not

645
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,640
work um before any additional funding is

646
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,400
allocated.

647
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,000
» Thank you.

648
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,679
Okay, if there's no more comments or

649
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,440
questions, I think Oh, I'm sorry,

650
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:03,279
Attorney Wright, you want to weigh in?

651
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,559
» Just for clarification, I just wanted to

652
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:09,919
make sure that with that motion, uh, I

653
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:11,919
know there was commentary about the

654
00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:15,600
limitations for people that are members

655
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:17,600
of certain departments. Um, I just want

656
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,200
to make sure know is that one of the

657
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,880
things that's included in here or not?

658
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,679
» Think, um, if I may.

659
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,679
» Go ahead. Well, well, if you're speaking

660
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:31,200
of the conflict of interest, I think

661
00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:33,440
that's a separate that that was under a

662
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,880
separate bullet and it wasn't my intent

663
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,159
to include it.

664
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,240
» Um, but to um definitely make sure that

665
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:45,760
we highlight law enforcement, the fire

666
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:48,000
firefighters as well as um Richland

667
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,640
County employees and then be very

668
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,279
specific about our schools.

669
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,640
And I think that um what we are already

670
00:26:53,279 --> 00:27:00,000
doing with a with a tax will cover that

671
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:03,360
but I did not include that as a part of

672
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,039
my motion. Okay.

673
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,520
» Okay. I think everyone's got their

674
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,720
questions solved. So we have a motion in

675
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,400
a second. I'm going to ask the clerk

676
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,080
because we still have to get to down

677
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,720
payment. So madam clerk, can you call

678
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,720
the vote on that motion?

679
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,760
» Teratio.

680
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,799
» Uh yes.

681
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520
» Weaver. Yes.

682
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:21,919
» Cooper.

683
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,559
» Yes.

684
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:22,960
» Ailen.

685
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:23,600
» Yes.

686
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,000
» Mackey.

687
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,679
» Yes.

688
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,600
» Motion approved.

689
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:28,720
» Okay. Very good. Go ahead, Mr. Brown.

690
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,919
» Mr. Chair, I know you're trying to move

691
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,679
on. Um, just want to make it clear that

692
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:36,640
the point that the county attorney was

693
00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:40,080
making just hasn't been addressed at

694
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,440
this point. So, if we leave it as is,

695
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,360
understand that that means that there'll

696
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,919
be groups of people automatically that

697
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:47,919
do not qualify. Um, and if that is the

698
00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:50,240
intent of the committee, clearly

699
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:52,240
understood. just didn't know if you plan

700
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:56,080
on taking it up today or at a future

701
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,320
meeting related to this matter.

702
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,960
» Um trac

703
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,919
» Yes. Uh Mr. Chair, so if I'm hearing uh

704
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,440
county administrator correctly, uh that

705
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:08,320
would be best clarified with another

706
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,159
motion uh right now.

707
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,440
» That's my understanding from uh the

708
00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:12,640
county attorney that that would be

709
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,320
necessary.

710
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,760
» Okay. So

711
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760
» Can I interrupt her once again? While

712
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,320
she's putting her potential motion in

713
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,880
order, I I have one oversight. We've

714
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,880
been joined by Councilwoman Newton and

715
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,159
Councilwoman Little, who actually I

716
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,224
thought you were on the committee, which

717
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,880
is why I didn't introduce you.

718
00:28:30,224 --> 00:28:33,039
[laughter]

719
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,120
You had your profile upgraded. Uh but

720
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:39,000
realizing you were not. So, uh but

721
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:39,000
welcome to the housing committee.

722
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,399
Um

723
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:49,919
okay. So um uh regarding uh potential

724
00:28:46,399 --> 00:28:56,399
conflicts of interest with county uh

725
00:28:49,919 --> 00:29:00,559
staff, um I move to um only exclude the

726
00:28:56,399 --> 00:29:03,440
staff members who would directly uh uh

727
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:07,360
have connection to this program

728
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:10,320
or is that clear?

729
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:14,080
No, that's not clear. I'm getting nos.

730
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,559
Um I

731
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,840
I'm open to help [laughter]

732
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,360
with this item.

733
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,840
» Mr. Chair,

734
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,799
» I'm sorry.

735
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,159
» Go ahead, Mr. Brown.

736
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,679
» I was going to say if you would if you

737
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:25,360
would like, Mr. Chair, I think it would

738
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,640
be potentially appropriate for us to

739
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,039
move to the next item.

740
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,039
» Okay.

741
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,159
» Uh and if there are time remaining, you

742
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,799
could take that up

743
00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:32,480
» Later on.

744
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,159
» Yeah. I think we're still in the process

745
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,080
of defining the program. So, it gives

746
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:37,760
the the county attorney's office time to

747
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,679
come back to us as to what may or may

748
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,960
not be a conflict of interest. Is that

749
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,640
is that fine with the committee? Because

750
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
we I would like to get into down payment

751
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,679
a little bit. So,

752
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,600
» Um I'm sorry, Councilwoman Eileen.

753
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:53,360
» Well, let me What about the remain?

754
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,360
» All right. us today, but we would still

755
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,799
need to at least address the the

756
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,799
remaining recommendations or are we

757
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:02,799
going to move that to another meeting or

758
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:05,520
can we bundle that into another motion?

759
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:09,520
» Um what is left, Director Williams, what

760
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:13,120
is left on that um score there?

761
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,720
» Thank you u Mr. Chair. So, based off of

762
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,120
the feedback that I got from the

763
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,279
committee, um the my plan was to go back

764
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,880
and revise this document based off of

765
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:23,360
what you said and bring it back to you

766
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,440
all. Um that way you can see the

767
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120
guidelines again, update it based off of

768
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,919
that feedback before it's voted to move

769
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,600
forward. Um you can check with the

770
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:33,440
county attorney's office to see if that

771
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,720
is suitable for us to do the revision

772
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,640
and bring the document back to you.

773
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,120
» Mr. Chair,

774
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Mr. Turner,

775
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,720
you voted on one bullet point. So the

776
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960
only bullet point that was changed is

777
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,120
that one. So everything else is as you

778
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,320
read here. So if you want to change

779
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,919
something else, you can do it now. Um if

780
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,760
you want to if you already know that you

781
00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:59,679
want to change it, but you do have the

782
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,520
opportunity to before it passes up to uh

783
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:03,600
full count. So if it's if it's going to

784
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,880
stay in committee that you can can do

785
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,200
that as well.

786
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,640
» Okay. So Eileen, I think you still hold

787
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,159
the floor. Are you are you satisfied

788
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,320
with that answer or anything else you

789
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:14,960
want to point out?

790
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,360
» Well, I guess for me, I'm I'm okay with

791
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,240
the remaining recommendations. I think

792
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:23,200
it's just the conflict of interest that

793
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,559
we need to um get the wording for. Other

794
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,880
than that, I'm fine with the other

795
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:30,000
recommendations and and would be willing

796
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,840
to vote on it today.

797
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,919
» And I think Mr. Chair,

798
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,120
» Go ahead. uh I think that with Miss

799
00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:38,480
Tatio's um motion

800
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,640
basically what it seems that she was

801
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,960
attempting to say is that it would be

802
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,720
only employees who exercise functions

803
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,279
and responsibilities regarding the

804
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,679
program.

805
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,679
» Correct.

806
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:50,559
» So those will be the only ones who would

807
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:51,600
be uh disqualified not these full

808
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,399
departments.

809
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,799
» Correct.

810
00:31:54,399 --> 00:32:00,559
» Council go ahead. I was just saying I

811
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:03,760
can I just say uh if the clerk is good,

812
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:07,039
can I just take what attorney Wright

813
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:10,000
just said and say so moved or we need to

814
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:13,919
repeat exactly what he said cuz that's

815
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,480
exactly what we need to to hear. Try

816
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:19,919
could could you repeat it again just and

817
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,559
I'll I'll I'll scribe it the best I can.

818
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:24,960
» Right. that the program only excludes

819
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:29,279
employees who exercise functions and

820
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,919
responsibilities regarding the program.

821
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,760
» Okay.

822
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:33,279
» Is that your motion, Councilman Cooper?

823
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840
» Yes, but according to the clerk, I have

824
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:34,480
to state

825
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,840
» Read it. Okay.

826
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:44,840
» I need to say it. So, uh I move to um as

827
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,840
it relates I move to

828
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:51,360
take the recommendation of the

829
00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:55,200
committee. I'm as of the staff as

830
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:59,760
relates to conflict of interest uh to

831
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:02,640
only exclude the county staff who work

832
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,519
directly

833
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,320
who work rel directly related to this

834
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,840
program. Made my own little remix.

835
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,600
» Second.

836
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,120
» Okay, we have a motion to second. And

837
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Council Mackey, did you want to weigh in

838
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,600
before we vote?

839
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,600
» Yes, please.

840
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,720
Uh just for additional clarity related

841
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,559
to this motion, would this also include

842
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,559
um

843
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:31,480
anyone that is a spouse of said person

844
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:31,480
that may work in departments?

845
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,880
That's a a question for the committee. I

846
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,480
just want clarification on what we're

847
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,480
voting on.

848
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,679
» It's not Mr. Chair.

849
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000
» Go ahead. Go ahead, Councilman Cooper.

850
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:44,880
It's I did not include it, but it is a

851
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,440
great um additive to [snorts] the

852
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,519
motion. So, I accept your friendly

853
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,480
amendment.

854
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:54,480
» Thank you. And I I I'm good with this. I

855
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,240
don't have our general language as it

856
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,559
relates to conflicts of interest that

857
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:03,159
maybe the county utilizes as a whole,

858
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,159
but if there right where

859
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:06,000
» Okay, I believe we have a motion, a

860
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,760
second.

861
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,720
» Sorry, I paused. So, um because she said

862
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,720
at conf

863
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,800
I guess what I was looking for uh

864
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:20,000
Councilman Cooper was do we have

865
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,480
language that states spouses

866
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,240
grandmothers c like do we have anything

867
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,919
like that that already exists in the

868
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:27,599
county if so then I would say follow

869
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:30,399
that same language so they're not

870
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:32,639
recreating unfairness but if we don't

871
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:37,040
have any language that's that specific

872
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,040
to conflict of interest then I'm

873
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,040
Mr. Chair, your

874
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:48,240
» Attorney believe we do have uh do we do

875
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,919
have language u in general regarding the

876
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,440
county? I don't know. I don't have

877
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:54,720
exactly what specifically what it says,

878
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:57,839
but there is language that u regarding

879
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:59,359
conflicts of ventures for relatives.

880
00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,839
» Is it in this packet like Miss Cooper

881
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:01,520
said? Am I

882
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:05,280
» No, it's not in this packet. Just making

883
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,440
sure. Okay. So, if I may,

884
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560
» Miss Mackey, you done? Council Kaki.

885
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,079
» Yes. Thank you so much.

886
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,280
» Sorry, Councilwoman Cooper.

887
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:17,119
» So, um just when the staff were

888
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,839
providing us an update, they stated that

889
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:24,240
the conflict of interest um bullet

890
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:25,760
that's listed in our packet in it is um

891
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,359
includes

892
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:32,400
this excerpt that they provided for us.

893
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:35,119
So that's where I was going with that.

894
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:39,440
But to your point, it it does not

895
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:42,800
further unpack relatives and things um

896
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:46,599
other and other relatives that may be um

897
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,599
applying for these funds.

898
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,720
» Okay. Again, we have a motion and a

899
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,920
second. I believe all the discussion has

900
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,079
been held. Madam clerk, will you call

901
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,800
the role?

902
00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:00,400
» I think Mr. Tracio seconded it. Yep.

903
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,079
» And then you have she accepted the

904
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,880
amendment. Thank you.

905
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,000
» Whenever you're ready.

906
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,400
» Terio,

907
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,880
» Yes.

908
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,280
» Weaver,

909
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,240
» Yes.

910
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,800
» Cooper,

911
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,520
» Yes.

912
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,640
» Ailen,

913
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,119
» Yes. Mackey,

914
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640
» Yes.

915
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,079
» Motion approved.

916
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,320
» Very good. All right, Mr. Brown, are we

917
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:18,640
ready to move on to the down payment?

918
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,280
» Yes, sir. Uh, if you were recognized,

919
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,400
I'm sorry, M.

920
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,720
» I'm sorry, Councilwoman Eileen. I'm

921
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,079
sorry.

922
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:26,240
» We have the remaining recommendations.

923
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,839
If so, I I move to adopt the staff's

924
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,800
remaining recommendations not previously

925
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:30,800
voted on.

926
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,280
» Second.

927
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,200
» Okay, we have a motion and a second to

928
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,040
accept the staff recommendations as we

929
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,640
have printed here, which I think were

930
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,520
very good. I like the recapture clause

931
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,280
down to zero after 5 years. Very good.

932
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,400
All right. Any further discussion before

933
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,000
the vote? No. Okay, madam clerk.

934
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,480
» Teratio,

935
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,440
» Yes.

936
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,480
» Weaver, yes.

937
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,599
» Hooper,

938
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,480
» Yes. Ailen,

939
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:56,240
» Yes. Mackey. Motion approved.

940
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,079
» Okay. Now, Mr. Brown, sorry.

941
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,760
» Yes, sir. Mr. Chair, uh, as we get ready

942
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,960
to move to the next item, I just want

943
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,800
you to know that my understanding is

944
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,440
we're going to bring back a clean copy

945
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,440
of what was all just voted on uh, at the

946
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440
next meeting uh, before that item is

947
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,839
ready to go before council, madam clerk.

948
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,079
» Okay.

949
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:13,839
» Uh, the next item is for C. If you would

950
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,440
recognize assistant county administrator

951
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:16,320
Eric Jensen, he will brief the committee

952
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,815
on this item.

953
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,680
» Okay. Mr. Jensen, you are recognized.

954
00:37:18,815 --> 00:37:22,800
[clears throat]

955
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,880
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon. Um

956
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,599
if you will flip to the very last page

957
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:32,160
in your packet which is the uh worksheet

958
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:34,720
that I provided uh previously. Um

959
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:38,560
at this point the committee has already

960
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:41,200
um decided three items um on these

961
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,720
potential policy decisions related to a

962
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,480
down payment assistance program. Um they

963
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:50,079
uh previously said that they wanted to

964
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:53,920
go with a maximum 120% county median

965
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:56,160
home sales price. Um they wanted to uh

966
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:59,359
have a loan amount that did not exceed

967
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,760
3% of the eligible purchase price and

968
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:04,240
they uh recommended that the property

969
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,680
must be located in Richland County. So

970
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:08,000
those are the three criteria that the

971
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,880
committee already um talked about and

972
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,400
and recommended. Uh in addition to that

973
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,040
I have several other bullet points here

974
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,599
that are other um criteria. Now

975
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,599
obviously the committee can reverse its

976
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,760
decision from previous meetings. Those

977
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:25,440
are just the ones that the committee had

978
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,880
um come to a consensus on um previously.

979
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,400
So what I was hoping to do today, Mr.

980
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,320
Chair, if we would just simply go down

981
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,920
through each one of these bullet points

982
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,160
and have the committee discuss and see

983
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,240
if there's a consensus around the

984
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,599
criteria for each one of these.

985
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,960
» Okay, that sounds reasonable to me. You

986
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,240
want to start us out maybe at the top?

987
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,440
Loan terms, I guess.

988
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:45,119
» Yes, sir. So, um, and actually I'm going

989
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,520
to skip one. I'm going to skip down to

990
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,200
where it says forgiveness because what

991
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,520
you decide to do in terms of forgiveness

992
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:56,640
will will affect what your loan period

993
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:59,040
will be. So, as um with uh any loan, you

994
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,960
know, you have the ability to forgive

995
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,400
the amount of the loan after a period of

996
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,160
time if that is your interest, if that

997
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,599
is your desire. And so, what I put down

998
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,920
here were several options. You could

999
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:10,320
have no forgiveness. the loan has to be

1000
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,320
paid back in full. You could have it a

1001
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,160
forgiveness that is prrated annually. In

1002
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,320
other words, it declines. So, every

1003
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,440
year, if it was a 10-year loan, then

1004
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,280
they would 10%. Um, you could simply

1005
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,640
just say that at the end of the loan

1006
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560
term, that's when you're forgiven. So,

1007
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400
that if you go 9 years and it's a

1008
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,640
10-year period, you're not nothing is

1009
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,160
forgiven. You have to go the full term.

1010
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Um, and then you could obviously come up

1011
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,079
with whatever you wanted. So, I would

1012
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,200
open it to you to discuss um what the

1013
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,839
committee wants to do in terms of

1014
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,520
forgiveness.

1015
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:40,240
» Okay. Councilwoman Eileen.

1016
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,640
» Um I'm going to address um forgiveness,

1017
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:45,440
but when I was thinking about this, I

1018
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:48,480
kind of looked at the loan term as well.

1019
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,720
Um the loan period, the interest rate as

1020
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:54,560
well as forgiveness. Um so I I would um

1021
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:58,880
be interested in a program that has a

1022
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:02,320
pr-rated annual forgiveness of 10% with

1023
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,119
a 10-year loan term.

1024
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Um, I think 10 year is long enough to to

1025
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:10,000
encourage um sustainable home home

1026
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,119
ownership and discourage like a quick

1027
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,359
sale. And I I think I prefer a simple

1028
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:19,000
interest rate, a fixed simple interest

1029
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:19,000
rate. Um

1030
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,880
um that's that's kind of how I I looked

1031
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,359
at it.

1032
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,680
» Okay. Um any other discussion? I I have

1033
00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:34,079
a feeling though on the interest rate. I

1034
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,079
I I have an issue with uh charging

1035
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:38,160
interest rate on down payment assistance

1036
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,720
cuz I mean does that require a payment

1037
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,920
or Councilwoman?

1038
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:48,160
» Well, I think you can do an interest

1039
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:51,280
rate but it would be more of deferred

1040
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,680
interest. Um I'm not sure what the term

1041
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,520
is. I guess my thoughts are you would

1042
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,319
only be paying interest if there's a

1043
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:03,200
triggering event like they sell the

1044
00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:05,839
house um before the 10 years um they

1045
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,680
transfer ownership, they're no longer

1046
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:10,480
the primary that's no longer their

1047
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,960
primary um residence. That's when I

1048
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,440
those that's when I would see the

1049
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,800
interest rate actually being paid. But

1050
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,599
if you're in the house for 10 years,

1051
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,040
you're not paying anything.

1052
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,960
Yeah, that would be my preference would

1053
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,160
be a zero interest rate because I can

1054
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
tell you as a lender, you got to

1055
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,599
remember there's going to be a lender

1056
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,240
involved here, not just the county. And

1057
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:33,839
if I'm at the lender's desk,

1058
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,359
underwriter, and I'm looking at a

1059
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,640
potential interest rate, we don't know

1060
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,760
what it is because we don't know how

1061
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,240
long they're going to be there. We don't

1062
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,240
know what the liability is. The lender

1063
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,079
is going to look at it and say, "We

1064
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,599
don't want to give our borrower, you

1065
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:49,119
know, something that could sink them in

1066
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,880
the long run." I I I just I I would say

1067
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:54,319
I'm I'm comfortable with a zero interest

1068
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,920
rate, just no interest at all.

1069
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:58,000
» Mr. Chair, uh

1070
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,440
» Counciloman Tracio, Councilman Alen, are

1071
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,800
you done with that point for now?

1072
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400
» I would again just say that that

1073
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,160
interest wouldn't be paid until unless

1074
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,720
there's a triggering event. If they sell

1075
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,319
the house, um that's when they would pay

1076
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,640
interest. And I would say that the

1077
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:13,599
interest would only acrue against the

1078
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,319
remaining balance. So for every year

1079
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:19,599
that they're in the house, 10% will be

1080
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:22,160
taken off of that loan.

1081
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,000
» Okay. All right, Councilwoman.

1082
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,640
» So I I need would need to do a little

1083
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,160
math here, but you know, if we're

1084
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,160
charging interest, so what I'm trying to

1085
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,760
get to here is, you know, whatever

1086
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,720
amount of interest that we might get off

1087
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,839
of this loan probably going to be pretty

1088
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:40,720
small, right? And is the juice worth the

1089
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:42,560
squeeze? Sort of like what Mr. weaver

1090
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:45,760
saying like, you know, to go through

1091
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,640
that with dealing with uh permutations

1092
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,960
or whatever with the lender. Um maybe

1093
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,640
it's just not worth I mean, I sort of

1094
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,400
get you like you want the you want the

1095
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:58,000
borrower to have skin in the game and to

1096
00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:01,440
want to um uh hopefully stay in the

1097
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,359
house and have the forgiveness um

1098
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,040
prrated so that it's eventually down to

1099
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:07,680
zero and so they're not having to pay

1100
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,319
anything. But I don't know that the

1101
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:13,359
amount of interest we might get from it

1102
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:15,839
was is worth the um uh what we would

1103
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:16,880
have to do to get it.

1104
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:18,720
» Councilwoman Eileen,

1105
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,440
» I guess then one of the questions that I

1106
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,319
would have is are we looking to

1107
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,720
recapitalize this program or is this

1108
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:28,319
just going to be a oneanddone thing?

1109
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,839
Because if we're talking about it just

1110
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:31,599
being one and done, then sure, don't

1111
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:34,000
charge any interest. But if you want to

1112
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,760
recapitalize, I think that we should

1113
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,760
charge an interest. And again, it would

1114
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,760
only be paid if there's a triggering

1115
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,760
event.

1116
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,480
» Well,

1117
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:50,400
I'll just weigh in here. So, if we said

1118
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:52,079
it was 3% and we look at this 120% count

1119
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,000
county median home sale price I

1120
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,839
calculated earlier, it would come out to

1121
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,880
about $342,000

1122
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:02,720
maximum sales price. So, if we did 3%,

1123
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:07,119
that's about give or take 94 9500. If it

1124
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:10,400
was 10% that's um what about $900 a

1125
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,839
year? I mean I I'm just wondering is it

1126
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,359
I mean certainly we wouldn't expect them

1127
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:14,560
to make a payment on that. Like you say

1128
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,480
it would just be added to the loan

1129
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,000
balance. Okay. Because it would almost

1130
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,599
be more trouble for county staff to

1131
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,240
collect it than it would be worth it. So

1132
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,440
» It would be a deferred payment.

1133
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,400
» Guess is that's what you call it.

1134
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,280
» Okay.

1135
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,079
» Maybe I could ask a question here, Mr.

1136
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,319
Chair. Um, is that something that that

1137
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:35,520
staff could talk to lenders that we

1138
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:37,599
might work with about just, you know,

1139
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,119
like or do we already know the answer to

1140
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:42,079
that maybe?

1141
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:44,000
» So, most likely, if if I may, Mr. Chair,

1142
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:47,040
so most likely we will be in a second

1143
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,200
position behind the lender and so it's

1144
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,800
probably not an issue because the lender

1145
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,800
will be protected by the first position.

1146
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,480
They would get any funds in the event of

1147
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,480
a default or something and we would be

1148
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,480
left with whatever's there. All

1149
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,720
» Right. I think I saw Councilwoman Mackey

1150
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,839
and then Councilwoman Cooper.

1151
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:07,200
» Thank you. I I do see both sides of it

1152
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:10,960
and you know I'm fine whichever one we

1153
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,200
go right now, but I I do think it is um

1154
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Mr. Chair good for future conversations,

1155
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,240
right? we have this that we're starting

1156
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,160
now, but I think as we look longterm and

1157
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:21,599
where we want to be in this, I think

1158
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,359
that is a good conversation to figure

1159
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:25,119
out, okay,

1160
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:27,119
do we just say no interest at all and

1161
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:29,680
really set a goal to that where once we

1162
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:33,040
reach this number of houses kind of we

1163
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,440
check the box and we feel completed. Um,

1164
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,520
and maybe that encourages more or helps

1165
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,560
us get there faster. I don't know, but I

1166
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,920
I can see both sides of it for sure.

1167
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,839
» Thank you, Councilwoman Cooper.

1168
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,640
» Yeah. So, and I just wanted to weigh in

1169
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:50,640
as well. I think that we've had lots of

1170
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:53,119
conversation already about um whether or

1171
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:57,200
not we want this to be a oneanddone or

1172
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:59,839
reinvestment program. And I it appeared

1173
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,400
that you know it was the body that was

1174
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:04,400
we made this one of our priorities and

1175
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,200
so making it one of our priorities

1176
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,359
perhaps it says to me that we want to

1177
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,680
have an investment and something that we

1178
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:15,280
want to continue to do. So, how do we do

1179
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,920
that is to continue to find ways to um

1180
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,400
fund what it is that we're doing without

1181
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,280
taking funds away from our general fund

1182
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,960
budget. Um definitely going to always

1183
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,599
give a shout out to the grants team for

1184
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,760
coming up with creative ways to help us

1185
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:34,640
fund these projects. But if we have an

1186
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:37,200
opportunity um to take some dollars that

1187
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,280
can be reinvested based upon the dollars

1188
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,400
that we put in, I think that would

1189
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:45,760
that's a a a great way to keep things

1190
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,680
rolling in the future.

1191
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,839
» Okay. Very good. Um any further

1192
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040
comments? Um Mr. Jason, did you want to

1193
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:53,920
move on from that? I don't know if that

1194
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,520
gives you any clarity going forward or

1195
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,000
» I think it does. Let me ask the

1196
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:01,280
committee. Um are you comfortable with

1197
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,800
the um the concept of it being prrated

1198
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,560
annually dropping down 10% as um council

1199
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,960
member Alen has suggested. Okay, good.

1200
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,000
I'm seeing head nod. Okay, so that gives

1201
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,560
us a 10-year that gives us um prrated

1202
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,920
annually. Okay. In terms of interest

1203
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,920
rate, do we have a consensus?

1204
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:25,599
» Anyone want to weigh in on that? I since

1205
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:29,760
I don't see any hands, I would just say

1206
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:31,920
very low. 3%, 4%. We we don't want to be

1207
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,800
um you know, I I would say very low on

1208
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,760
that because again, we're trying to

1209
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,920
encourage this, not discourage it would

1210
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,000
be my preference, but if we're going to

1211
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,280
charge an interest rate at all,

1212
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,680
» Mr. Chair.

1213
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,680
» Yes, sir. M. Uh, may I address Council

1214
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Member Alene to have a question?

1215
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
» Sure, absolutely.

1216
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,200
» Council member Leen, what you stated in

1217
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,880
the beginning, would you feel

1218
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,680
comfortable in just making that a

1219
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:58,839
motion?

1220
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,839
» I my Yeah, I think I can.

1221
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:05,920
» Yeah, I know. Um,

1222
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:10,880
I move that we

1223
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:14,000
adopt a loan period of 10 years

1224
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,480
with an interest rate a fixed interest

1225
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,480
rate of 3%

1226
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:27,119
um, and the forgiveness prrated annually

1227
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,280
10 with a a 10% um, proration annually.

1228
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:31,520
» Does does that work?

1229
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,119
» May I Mr. here and and did you want to

1230
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,960
include your language regarding the

1231
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,920
interest rate being deferred to

1232
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880
triggering event?

1233
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,880
» Absolutely. Yes.

1234
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,880
» Okay.

1235
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,160
Okay. Everyone understand the motion?

1236
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,119
Okay. All right. Everyone's nodding yes.

1237
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,040
So, um at that point, it's been motioned

1238
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:54,400
and second. Madam clerk, I think we're

1239
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,760
ready for a vote.

1240
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,640
» Teratio,

1241
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,440
» No.

1242
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,559
» Weaver.

1243
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,359
» Yes.

1244
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:01,280
Cooper,

1245
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,839
» Yes. Ailen,

1246
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,480
» Yes.

1247
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:06,440
» Mackey,

1248
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,440
» Yes. Motion approved.

1249
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,040
» Okay, Mr. Chair.

1250
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,880
» Jensen, go ahead.

1251
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,240
» Thank you. So, the other items to be

1252
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,839
addressed, um, loan security. I I'm I'm

1253
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,760
assuming that the county or not I'm

1254
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:19,359
assuming, I'm suggesting that the

1255
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,119
program won't move forward unless the

1256
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:22,960
county takes a junior position behind

1257
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,280
the the primary. So, that's why that's

1258
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,559
there. Um,

1259
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,240
» It would have to be some document

1260
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,000
attached to the title. Unfortunately,

1261
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:31,839
Councilman Brandham's not here to to

1262
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,599
guide us on that, but I'm sure he could.

1263
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:34,880
Uh, but it'll be something the closing

1264
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:38,240
attorney will have to add.

1265
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,559
» Okay. Um, the property, we already the

1266
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:43,040
committee already discussed that. Um, in

1267
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:46,720
terms of the applicants, having heard

1268
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,960
your previous discussion, um, let me

1269
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,319
suggest that you use a similar standard

1270
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,319
unless you want to use a different

1271
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:53,680
standard. Um, if you want consistency

1272
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:55,200
across the board, you could use the same

1273
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,119
standard as you just used in your

1274
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,079
previous motion or the previous agenda

1275
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:03,280
item.

1276
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,680
» Councilman Eileene,

1277
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,400
» I do have a motion that I that I wanted

1278
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,240
to present and we can talk about it

1279
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,559
afterwards obviously. So, I'm just going

1280
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,200
to read this motion that I have and then

1281
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:17,680
we can um particularly since it's 250.

1282
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,280
Um, so I move that we um initially fund

1283
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,000
the down payment assistance program with

1284
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,400
one $1 million of the$2 million

1285
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,079
previously allocated uh with the

1286
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,319
remaining 1 million held in obeyance

1287
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:30,000
pending evaluation of the program.

1288
00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:31,599
Eligibility shall be limited to

1289
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,400
first-time home buyers who are Richland

1290
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,800
County employees, public safety or EMS

1291
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,359
employees serving Richland County,

1292
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,760
Richland County 1 or Richland 2 teachers

1293
00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:44,160
or teachers employed at District 5

1294
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,640
schools located in Richland County with

1295
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,880
the el with all eligible homes located

1296
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,880
in Richland County. I further move that

1297
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,559
we align this program with the proposed

1298
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:59,440
15% accommodations tax funding uh

1299
00:50:54,559 --> 00:51:02,240
subject to whatever legal um I don't

1300
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,800
know availability or or what whatever

1301
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:07,119
I'm not sure how to say that um but I'd

1302
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,079
als but I also would like to re-evaluate

1303
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:14,160
the program after the first 50 closings

1304
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,440
or 12 months whichever comes first.

1305
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,599
» That's a good provision there at the

1306
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,040
end. Okay, we have a motion second by

1307
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,079
Councilwoman Cooper. All right,

1308
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,280
discussion.

1309
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,400
» Mr. Chair,

1310
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,839
» Council Tracio.

1311
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:28,960
» Thank you. Um I don't think I heard Miss

1312
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:30,960
Ailen uh address the maximum household

1313
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,720
income. Is that right?

1314
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,000
» Did not. And so

1315
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:39,040
» Okay. Um

1316
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,040
are you proposing? Well, I'm happy to

1317
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,839
propose a friendly amendment unless we

1318
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,720
could just vote on this clean um clean

1319
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:51,559
motion maybe and then address the

1320
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,559
household income. Maybe that's simpler.

1321
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,760
» It either you can do either way. Do it

1322
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,520
together one motion or you could

1323
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,040
separate that out if you want.

1324
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:03,520
» Okay. Um so it's been moved and seconded

1325
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,760
and so we could just vote on Miss Aen's

1326
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,960
motion.

1327
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,280
» Why don't we do that? So she doesn't

1328
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,640
have to read it all again. [laughter]

1329
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,000
» It all I'm not even sure if I should.

1330
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,359
» Councilwoman Cooper.

1331
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:20,160
» Uh so and to we're kind of connecting

1332
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:22,000
dots in all of our conversations. Uh so

1333
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,400
I'm wondering you know the the

1334
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:28,240
discussion that we had about spouses as

1335
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:30,400
well to include in that language. Um it

1336
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:33,119
we do have a common thread here that we

1337
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:36,079
almost want to create a standard it

1338
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:39,040
seems like for these types of programs

1339
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:40,480
to you know just go from one program to

1340
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,920
the next so that we don't have to

1341
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:47,839
continue to recreate things. So I don't

1342
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,760
know if we want to um add on or do

1343
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:53,599
separate as well. Maybe we'll marry the

1344
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,680
two together in the next one.

1345
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:58,880
» Okay. All right. We've got a motion and

1346
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:03,400
a second. Um, any further discussion?

1347
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,400
Okay. If not, uh, Madame Clerk,

1348
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,880
» Teratio,

1349
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,440
» Yes.

1350
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,920
» Weaver,

1351
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,559
» Yes.

1352
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,960
» Uer,

1353
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:07,599
» Yes.

1354
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,559
» Ailen,

1355
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:08,880
» Yes. Mackey,

1356
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:09,839
» Yes.

1357
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,960
» Motion approved. All

1358
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:12,880
» Right, Miss Jensen, where does that

1359
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,440
leave us for this list? We got maximum

1360
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,800
household income still and applicants. I

1361
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,200
guess we just settled the applicants

1362
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,839
question.

1363
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,880
» You did.

1364
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:20,960
» Okay, that's it. Do

1365
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,480
» Do you want us to get into the maximum

1366
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,160
household income?

1367
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,319
» Do we even need that? like what what's

1368
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,480
the

1369
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:29,119
» I I would I would recommend it.

1370
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,480
» Okay.

1371
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,599
» But again, it's the committee's

1372
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,359
pleasure.

1373
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,920
» Did we did we set anything with the

1374
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:39,040
other program? We could just mimic that.

1375
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,200
» Yes. 80 to 120% is the other program.

1376
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:44,559
» Okay. All right. Well,

1377
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,000
» But that I would just simply say a

1378
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,040
maximum a cap. You don't I don't think

1379
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,359
you need a minimum.

1380
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,880
» Okay.

1381
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:50,480
» Okay.

1382
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,440
» Um and

1383
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,160
» Discussion.

1384
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,640
» Well, go ahead,

1385
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:58,720
» Mr. Chair. I just wanted to be if we

1386
00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:02,400
could remind it of what the actual uh me

1387
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:04,319
um median how uh county median income is

1388
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,400
at this point just so just for a frame

1389
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:07,040
of reference.

1390
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,200
Do we know

1391
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,880
» At this point? Um I'd be shooting from

1392
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,559
the hip. I I couldn't tell you exactly

1393
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,400
what it is, but um it's going to be 120%

1394
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,200
is going to be somewhere in the $90,000

1395
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,119
range.

1396
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,559
» Okay. Looks like Miss

1397
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:25,119
» I just Yeah. here. Here, here's somebody

1398
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:27,440
who does it every day.

1399
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:30,880
» Um, so for a family of four, currently

1400
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:34,319
the median income is 92,400.

1401
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,400
So at the 120% limit, that would be a

1402
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:38,880
household income family of four,

1403
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,800
$110,850.

1404
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,119
So that's your family for a household of

1405
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:49,240
one, the maximum could would be $77,650

1406
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,240
if we did 120%.

1407
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:56,520
And so um I guess my question is uh

1408
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:04,079
if we choose 120%

1409
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,480
I mean then then everybody under that is

1410
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:09,599
eligible if they if they qualify for the

1411
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:13,440
loan. Is that okay? Great. Well, then I

1412
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:16,640
would move to um uh recommend the

1413
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:19,680
maximum household income of 120% of

1414
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,040
county median income.

1415
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,520
» All right. Do we have a second to that

1416
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,200
motion?

1417
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,720
» I'll second it. Oh, okay. Councilman

1418
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,720
Cooper. Second. All right.

1419
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,720
» Discussion.

1420
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,880
» Everybody ready? Okay. Madam clerk,

1421
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:35,520
» Yes.

1422
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,000
» Weaver,

1423
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,720
» Yes.

1424
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,760
» Cooper,

1425
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,800
» Yes. Ailen,

1426
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,200
» Yes. Mackey.

1427
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,960
» Yes.

1428
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,400
» Motion approved.

1429
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,520
» Right, M. Jens, we're about out of time.

1430
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,920
Anything else? Uh,

1431
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,440
» No, sir. And I will also bring this back

1432
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,599
to you in a clean form at your next

1433
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,359
committee meeting so you can um make

1434
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:53,680
sure it it meets your standards and what

1435
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:56,480
you voted for.

1436
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,079
» Okay. Um, I think the next item on our

1437
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,240
agenda is adjournment unless has

1438
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,680
» Anything else.

1439
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:08,160
» Okay. I think I heard a motion and a

1440
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:10,000
second, Madame Clerk, for adjournment.

1441
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,400
Teratio Weaver.

1442
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,520
» Yes.

1443
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640
» Cooper,

1444
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,040
» Yes. Ailen,

1445
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,319
» Yes.

1446
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,760
» Mackey,

1447
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:17,119
» Yes. Motion approved.

1448
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,160
» Thanks everyone. I think we made a lot

1449
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:21,160
of progress today. Thank you.