[1:05] Jesus. [1:25] » Oh yeah. [1:32] that we [1:51] just [1:54] had. I was upstairs. So, let's call this meeting of the [1:59] Richland County Executive and Finance Standing Committee together [2:03] to order at 5:00 on September 8th, 2026 in the Richland County Board. Roll call, [2:11] please. [2:14] » Kramer >> here. [2:16] » Angel >> here. [2:17] » Wely >> here. [2:19] » Thompson >> here. [2:20] » Frank >> present. [2:21] » Severson. Do we >> we have a quorum? [2:27] » We have a quorum. >> We have a quorum. Clarification of open [2:31] meetings law >> was posted. Yes. [2:34] » And approval of agenda. Um couple two things. The chair would like to remove [2:40] two items. One is the number 10 discussion and possible action of the [2:45] 2027 county draft budget. rationale being [2:49] that um the healthc care numbers are still coming in from departments and we [2:54] placed it on the Thursday agenda so we'll have better accurate um numbers [3:01] and number 13 I'd like to remove because public safety and judiciary [3:08] um will not be recommending a new ambulance purchase [3:14] » correct yes >> so with those two changes I have a M any [3:19] other changes to the agenda? So we now have a 20point agenda. [3:25] Motion to approve by Welty, second by Kramer. All in favor signify by saying [3:31] I. >> I. [3:33] » Approval of the minutes of the August 24th meeting. Any changes, additions, or [3:38] corrections? [3:44] Hearing none, I will accept them as um submitted. [3:49] Public comment. [3:53] Anybody online? We have no one here present [3:58] although I've encouraged somebody. [4:03] » Admire all that you do as I'm learning. >> So hearing none, um we'll move on to [4:10] reports with the county administrator. Right. So, demolition at the campus [4:16] continues to proceed as scheduled. Three of the four buildings have been torn [4:20] down. Um, they will start working on the copper top next week. We are in the [4:26] final stages of the sale to the school district for the remaining two [4:29] buildings. Later this month, the city will vote on the proposed CSM and then [4:33] the sale can be finalized. Um the ad hoc EMS district committee [4:38] creation committee has begun having meetings and held twoformational [4:41] meetings with the town city villages. Um and at this time the municipalities have [4:47] stated or started the process of exploring their next option and will [4:51] reach out when they would like support. Um our time in our office has really [4:55] been focused on the transmission line, the budget and insurance EMS and the [5:00] audit is wrapping up. that should be finished by the end of by the end of [5:04] this month we should have the final audit results. [5:08] And then the last thing that I have is um Rod Perry did resign from the board. [5:12] Um I want to just take a moment to thank him for his service um to the residents [5:17] of Richland County and Mashemwell. [5:24] » That is all I have. chair. >> Can I um add something with our [5:30] discussion with the ad hoc EMS? Um Dan Tims is their chairman [5:38] uh for this project and him and I have been emailing back and forth. He has [5:43] requests that they're they're coming to me. I'm sorting them out and and as [5:46] things can needed, I'm getting information from [5:51] admin administrator Clemens to make sure they're getting that a flow of [5:55] information. At this point, they've asked like three questions. They have no [5:59] one's asked us to come to any of their township meetings. Uh at this point, um [6:04] we've asked numerous times repeatedly and they said they are they have a [6:10] handle on it. I think their next meeting is se September 28th. [6:16] Uh we plan to do a public hearing reach out on September 29th. Uh the [6:25] committee chose to not do that because at this point they are moving forward [6:30] and that would be something that they should do to share information. It [6:33] really doesn't make sense to for us to try and share. [6:37] So, just as a followup, >> any other questions or comments for [6:43] county administrator with that second item with the um [6:49] transmission line? What we thought we'd do is just open it up and see what [6:54] people know so far. We have any new information. [6:58] The only thing I know is that um both Kurtz and Kiesi came out adamantly [7:06] against the current line and they're claiming that that they need to go along [7:11] existing power lines as as the legislation as Keski has some idea of [7:19] some legislation she'd like to approve that she's going to work on this [7:23] session. So that's some positive [7:27] feedback. >> I also read today that Congressman Van [7:32] Borgon has also done the same opposition and encouragement to follow [7:39] state statute as far as citing a long [7:47] » chairman. Um, there was a meeting last week with Wisconsin Counties [7:51] Association, the eight counties of the Becky line impacts. Carrie and I were [7:55] both on that call and there will be more calls to come. [8:01] » And Carrie did write a letter as county board chair. So, [8:07] » so that's the update that we know there. Anything more on that? [8:12] The comment date passed yesterday was the last of the com public comments to [8:18] submit to Becky to MGS regarding the line and now we're in a new period. [8:24] » So I did submit a response last week on behalf of the county. I worked with [8:29] supervisor Carol to get that completed. Um him and I both looked at it and we [8:33] did get it submitted last week. And I believe we have a resolution from [8:37] natural resources and finances that's coming before the full board next week. [8:44] So we're moving on. Um [8:52] moving on to item number eight, discussion of possible action. initial [8:57] resolution authorizing not to exceed $7.5 million in general obligation [9:03] promisary notes for capital projects. >> So today we have Carol Worth from [9:08] Wisconsin Public Finance Professionals here to present on both items number [9:12] eight and nine. Um I do want to point out in your packet is a PowerPoint from [9:16] Carol's presentation that she will be getting giving um an agreement with [9:21] Wisconsin public finance professionals the scope of enga engagement with Orals [9:26] and Brady which is our legal council and then the initial resolutions and then I [9:31] will turn it over to Carol. [9:37] Thanks for coming. [9:55] I think that's [10:06] okay. Well, thank you very much for the opportunity to meet you in person and to [10:11] present to you today. Um, in case you don't know who I am, I'm Carol Worth and [10:17] I am what's called a municipal advisor, which is similar to a financial adviser [10:22] to an individual. Municipal adviser is an adviser that only advises [10:27] municipalities. Okay. I've worked with Richland County for 33 years. [10:33] So um so I've gone through a lot of history [10:37] with you. All right. So what we're going to talk [10:41] about today are actually uh there are two initial resolutions [10:48] and we're also going to talk about the upcoming borrowings. [10:53] Okay. And then we're going to review that long spreadsheet that uh last time [10:58] I was uh presenting over the Zoom meeting. Um we looked at the spreadsheet [11:02] for capital improvement projects and then we also tied the second page to uh [11:08] a larger project. We're not going to talk about that today. We're just going [11:11] to focus on what's happening now in 2026. Okay. So I'm going to begin my [11:17] presentation by just going through in general what an initial resolution is [11:22] all about. Okay. So, this is required by u Wisconsin statute the statutory step [11:31] and what it does is it gives the county board authority to do a borrowing in the [11:37] future. So, it's all about the word authority. Okay? You're not borrowing [11:41] money when you actually take action on it. You are giving yourself authority [11:47] under the statutes. Okay? So that's the step every single county in Wisconsin [11:52] has to take when you want to do a borrowing. You got to give yourself [11:56] authority under the statutes. So that authority starts with the adoption of a [12:01] resolution called an initial resolution. Okay? Like think of it as your first [12:05] step. So it does not commit the county to do a borrowing. Okay? It just gives [12:12] you this authority to do a borrowing and you can does not tell you how many times [12:19] you can do a borrowing up to that dollar amount. It you can do it in phases. You [12:24] could do it all at once. If you do it in phases, obviously the collective amount [12:29] of the borrowings and phases cannot exceed the dollar amount in the initial [12:33] resolution. Right? So the um and also in the initial [12:40] resolution it talks about doing a borrowing at a future date. So you say [12:44] what happens if we don't ever do a borrowing? Well, that authority is good [12:49] for a period of five years. If nothing is acted upon within that [12:54] five years or all of the authority is not used within that five years, it just [12:59] expires. Okay. [13:03] Um the initial resolution itself is prepared by Orals and Brady. That is the [13:10] counties what called bond council. They write legal opinions anytime you're [13:15] going to do a borrowing. Okay. So, really is has two things going on here. [13:20] There's a not to exceed dollar amount and there is a what's called purpose [13:25] language. The purpose language is written in a way that says if you are [13:30] going to do a borrowing, it uses authority. You can only use the borrowed [13:35] funds for what is described in that resolution. Okay? Those dollars can [13:41] never go into the county's operating budget. that only go for those projects. [13:48] Now the other thing is the initial resolution [13:52] has a requirement that in order to be approved it needs 34 vote of the members [14:00] elect of the county board. So I was using a calculation of 21 board [14:07] members that would require 16 votes. I've been aware of a vacancy. When you [14:14] have a vacancy, you subtract it from the number of board members that you [14:18] currently have. Okay? So that would make 20 board members. Three quarter vote [14:23] would mean 15 approved yes votes in order to pass. Okay? If you have [14:29] somebody who is absent, an absence is an automatic no. [14:35] Okay? So that's the background of any initial [14:40] resolution that would a county considers. [14:45] Okay, then I'm going to the next page number two at the bottom. This is the [14:49] initial resolution specifically. It's a not to exceed $2 million [14:56] general obligation Thomas knows for capital improvement projects. Okay, so [15:01] obviously right there at the beginning it's a not to exceed number. Okay, first [15:06] paragraph tells you what can it be used for. Right. It says for public purposes [15:13] including paying the costs of 2027 capital improvement projects. Okay. So [15:20] we have a list of what those 2027 capital improvement projects are. So [15:24] that is what you're tied to in terms of a purpose. [15:28] So then it goes on to say that it would be desirable to authorize the issuance [15:34] of general obligation notes. Um and if so and again is a not to exceed number [15:41] for that purpose and that if you do author if you do borrow that money those [15:48] will be considered um taxable [15:52] general obligation notes that are prepaid [15:56] through the taxes levied on all taxable property in the county. So that's what [16:01] general obligation means. Okay. The next page is an initial resolution [16:09] for a not to exceed 7 and a half million general obligation notes. And this one [16:16] says for capital improvement projects as well. Now, so if you look at the first [16:20] paragraph, that sentence that talks about the purpose language says paying [16:26] the cost of renovations and improvements to the courthouse and other county [16:31] buildings. Okay. So that is what is considered to be the project those that [16:37] is the purpose for which the 7 and a half million is intended to be used for. [16:43] So again everything else is identical to the other ref other initial resolution. [16:48] It just has the not to exceed number and that purpose language. That's the only [16:53] difference between them. And keeping in mind that they don't that gives you [16:59] authority future date you borrow and you can [17:03] borrow in phases that collectively cannot exceed the dollar amount that not [17:09] to exceed. Okay. So now we're going to move on to page [17:12] four and we're going to talk about the short what we call to differentiate them [17:18] we call them the shortterm notes. Okay. So this is a practice that's been used [17:25] by Richland County for the last seven years. Okay, this goes back to 2020. [17:30] This has been done where you borrow general obligation promisory notes that [17:36] are paid off in approximately three months. So very short term. Okay. Okay. [17:41] So, what you're doing is you're removing certain capital projects from that were [17:45] within your operating budget and you're putting them on the borrowing side, but [17:50] you're paying them off right away. As soon as your taxes are levied, you [17:54] collect the taxes, you pay them off. So, you're not advertising and it's not [18:00] like you're borrowing and then it's taking you years to pay it back. You're [18:04] as soon as the taxes are collected, you pay them off. [18:07] The debt payment is short-term, but it's levied outside of levy limit. Right? [18:12] Your operating budget is subject to levy limits. So, when you pull the capital [18:17] projects out of your operating budget, you're putting them now on the debt [18:21] side, which is outside of levy limits. By pulling the capital projects out of [18:26] your budget, you're creating room inside that operating budget for other [18:30] operating expenses. Okay? So, that was what the whole program was way back in [18:35] 2020. that you've been following ever since. [18:40] So with that, we're just going to take a quick look at what that structure looks [18:44] like. On the next page, we'll see the 2027 capital improvement projects that [18:51] make up that million90. We're going to apply we're going to move [18:56] it up to 10 uh by 10,000 up to 2 million because we have to also cover expenses [19:03] of this when we borrow. So, we have some dollars that we anticipate coming in [19:09] from what's called premium. That's part of the process where the the winning [19:16] bidder, the underwriter, sells the notes to investors. The investors pay more [19:21] than $100 for $100 worth of bonds. That becomes premium. That premium is used [19:26] for two things. So premium is um either held back by the underwriter to pay [19:32] certain expenses usually his expenses sometimes all the expenses but in this [19:37] case this is very short so he's only going to pay his expenses [19:41] and the rest of it if there is excess comes back to the county it goes into [19:46] debt service. So this is uh sources and uses of funds that is uh showing that [19:52] you're also going to be investing the funds while you are paying your project [19:58] costs and those funds the investment earnings has to stay in the project [20:04] account. Okay. So we're also going to take advantage of some of that [20:08] investment income to cover expenses of issuance as well. [20:13] The next page number six at the bottom shows you at the top [20:19] on March 1st of 27 the $2 million plus estimated interest and we're [20:26] assuming a rate of about five and a4 because this would be a taxable issue. [20:31] And so the total amount in this case of 2,29750 [20:36] would be paid back on March 1. The bottom part is the pricing schedule. It [20:41] gets a little bit messy. What I monitor is the yield column right in the middle. [20:46] The yield column is the market. Okay, that's what current investors are [20:51] getting for this type of a structure. Hear about market going interest rates [20:57] going up or down. That's what would be going up or down in terms of my [21:01] monitoring. Okay. So I I keep this in in a report so that when I come back to you [21:07] with actual results, I have something to compare that to to tell you what we [21:12] originally were looking at and what that final result. Okay? So these are [21:17] estimates. Of course, they're not guaranteed being estimates. And later on [21:22] when you actually go through a borrowing, that's when I'll be able to [21:25] tell you what the actual rates are. Now looking at the principal and interest [21:31] payment of 2,ion29750 and if we divide it into your current [21:36] equalized valuation that gives you a tax rate of 88 cents which is $88 per on a h [21:45] 100,000 of equalized or fair market property value. Okay. So we're not [21:51] talking assessed values. You'd be looking at a tax bill. You'd be looking [21:55] at the fair market values on the tax bill. [22:00] All right, we'll move on then to the 7 and a half million. [22:05] 7 and a half million is expected to occur in two phases. [22:10] In this 2026 year, we're looking at three and a half million and the [22:15] remaining four million at this point we're saying in 2029. [22:19] Okay, that's how we're timing it. There's a list of the projects right now [22:24] that collectively make up seven and a half. And the way they're spaced out is [22:31] from the word update to the uh final word courthouse flat roof replacement is [22:36] what's expected to uh be financed with the first three and a half million. [22:42] The next two, the sec second floor and a third the second floor remodeled [22:48] expected to be covered a little bit in this issue and a little bit the next [22:52] issue. And then the bottom part is expected to be covered in the in the 4 [22:58] million in 2029. So we're going to only focus on the [23:03] three and a half million right now. So page eight has again the sources and [23:08] uses of funds with the three and a half million [23:12] and in this case the um the premium amount is a lot larger [23:18] and we're expecting the underwriter that bids on your issue to pay those expenses [23:23] out of your premium. So therefore whatever interest rate you're looking at [23:27] includes all those expenses. Okay? And then there is anything excess that is [23:32] not used for expenses that comes back to the county and is used to offset your [23:37] death service. Okay. So that's page eight. Page nine. [23:43] This is what the amortization looks like of that three [23:49] three and a half million. Okay. So you'll see from 2027 to 46 is how that [23:56] issue will be repaid. Fond means interest rate and the true [24:03] interest costs of that column plus some premium coming back to you is at 4.6 [24:10] and then that generates the estimated interest column and then principal and [24:15] interest together is total estimated debt service. So that's your yearbyear [24:19] and we'll be looking at that column again on the last page. Okay, [24:24] the next page is the pricing. And now the yield column on this page, right, is [24:31] again what I'm monitoring. You can see this yield column is a lot different. [24:36] Starting in 27, it's 2.85. When we looked at the short term, it was 4%. [24:41] That's the difference between something being taxable versus tax exempt. The [24:45] reason we're doing that is because if the county stays under $5 million [24:52] of tax exempt debt, the county then has three years to spend the money without [24:59] worrying about any monitoring for federal law purposes and or the rebate [25:05] of any of the investment earnings that the county realizes during that period [25:09] of time to the IRS. So, it was like worth it to put the two [25:14] million because it's so short. We're calling that one taxable. So, therefore, [25:18] it's not subject to these rules at all. And it totally allows the county much [25:23] more flexibility in keeping it money that it uses during this investment [25:27] period. Okay. All right. And then moving on to the [25:33] timeline, um we're going to be coming back to um [25:38] county board meeting and we're going to present the same report to county board. [25:45] We are also working on the preparation of what's called an official statement. [25:50] An official statement is like a perspectus looks like this. [25:56] It's a book. It's like a prospectus that you would get if you as an individual [26:01] investor was buying security and it describes the county. It has your um [26:07] most current audit has financial information. It talks about the [26:12] borrowing. Um so that is an official statement. [26:19] We are also going to be applying for a rating from Moody's Investor Service. [26:23] Okay. So that's going to uh require some additional preparation of documents to [26:31] uh have that conference call that will occur I believe on October 9th. County [26:36] is currently rated A1 by Moody's. So we will uh as soon as we have that [26:43] conference call then we're going to distribute all the information the [26:48] official statement out into the marketplace. We're going to take bids on [26:52] October 20th at uh between 9:30 and 10 because there's [26:56] two issues here. And then we bring those results back to the county board that [27:01] night at six o'clock uh for the adoption of two different resolutions. Now we're [27:08] going to they're going to call them award resolutions. Those resolutions at [27:12] that time you will be borrowing money. That's a different type. That's not an [27:17] initial anymore. that is you saying yes, we are accepting the interest rates and [27:21] the bid from the from the winning um underwrite. [27:26] Then all the money comes to the county on November 19th. That's called the [27:30] closing. So that's when all the wires come in and each one of them goes into [27:35] their project accounts. Okay? So that would be the conclusion of the process. [27:42] And then to the very last page, I'm giving you one of those spreadsheets [27:46] again. Again, just to keep track and this spreadsheet is prepared in the same [27:52] way, but I want to call your attention to some differences since the last time [27:57] we talked. Um, the valuation column, the equalized value column. [28:03] On my other report, we did projections going out for for the first five years [28:08] at 5%. Okay, this has been updated because our 2026 equalized valuation [28:17] which is actual now came in at 8.8%. So we started with that 8.8% increase [28:26] and then we went 5% for four years and so on. Okay, so just updated it for [28:31] that. The actual existing is the same. So then we calculate a tax rate. The tax [28:38] rate is just taking the debt service divided into the valuation. [28:42] Then we moved over one column to put in the shortterm capital improvement, these [28:48] $2 million notes. Okay? So we updated the second number there to reflect the [28:53] numbers you've seen in this report. Again, you'll see there's that 88 cents [28:57] as far as the tax rate. Okay? And then moving over, you'll see to the to the [29:03] right, you'll see the three and a half million that we just talked about. [29:07] There's the principal and there's the interest and a tax rate. And then keep [29:12] going. You'll see there is the projection for the other four million of [29:17] the seven and a half million coming in in 2029. [29:21] So you'll see that, you know, starts obviously in the year 2030 [29:25] and and it goes goes down. And then you'll have your principal and your [29:30] interest and your tax rate. And then your combined number [29:36] and your combined tax rate. So right now that combined tax rate is anywhere from [29:42] four to five cents less than the number that we looked at the first time. And [29:48] that is driven strictly by the fact that your valuation this year came in at 8% [29:53] rather than 5%. That's all. Okay. All right. I know that was the last to [30:01] go through. >> Very thorough. Thank you. [30:04] » Okay. >> Questions, comments, thoughts, [30:14] » you are so thorough. There's no questions. [30:18] » I was going to say that that's good to know because I always try to anticipate [30:22] them. >> Thank you very much. [30:25] Um Shirley just asked about a motion. Um county clerk, can we go to [30:34] 7.5 million resolution, please? Can you read that for us? [30:52] uh resolution 26 um initial resolution authorizing not to exceed $7.5 million [30:59] general obligation promisory notes for capital improvement projects. Now [31:04] therefore be it resolved by the Richland County Board of Supervisors that the [31:07] county borrow an amount not to exceed $7,500,000 [31:11] by issuing general obligation promisory notes for the public purpose of [31:15] financing the project. Um there be and there hereby is levied on all the [31:20] taxable property in the county a direct annual tax such and in such amounts as [31:26] are sufficient to pay when due the principal and interest on such notes. [31:33] Motion by Welty, second by Thompson. [31:40] It's still on the table for discussion. Any discussion? [31:45] » Just clarifying that this resolution going through referring to the 7 million [31:51] for projects that it is going to have to go to what is listed in [31:57] here under that seven and a half million. [31:59] » Correct. Okay. Any other discussion? [32:05] All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. [32:08] » All opposed. >> And county clerk, we're moving on to [32:12] number nine. Can you do the same thing for the $2 million? [32:16] » Yes. [32:23] Initial resolution authorizing not to exceed $2 million general obligation [32:28] promisory note for capital improvement projects. Now therefore, be it resolved [32:33] by the Richland County Board of Supervisors that the county borrow an [32:36] amount not to see exceed $2 million by issuing general obligation promisory [32:41] notes for the public purpose of financing the project. there be and [32:46] there hereby is levied on all taxable property in the county a direct annual [32:50] tax in such years and in such amounts that they're sufficient to pay what do [32:55] the principle and interest on such notes your pleasure [33:01] motion by second by Thompson it's on the table for discussion anything [33:08] all in favor signify by saying I >> any opposed motion carries [33:14] Thank you. Moving on to item number 11, discussion [33:20] and possible actions on the 2027 county health insurance. [33:26] » So we have Kyle from the insurance center should be online and if you could [33:30] stop sharing so that he is able to share your screen that would be helpful. [33:36] » Okay. >> So what we are looking to do um there is [33:39] a resolution in the packet. Um, I will let Kyle do his presentation and then I [33:44] can highlight what the resolution would look like. Kyle, are you ready to take [33:48] over? >> I am. It says I'm sharing. Can you all [33:51] see it? >> Yes, we can. [33:54] » Uh, so we have kind of just a couple updates to slides from the meeting last [33:58] month. I thought I would just jump into the relevant and updated information, [34:02] but if there's any questions or, you know, previous parts of the presentation [34:06] you'd like me to go back to, I'm more than happy to. To do a quick one minute [34:10] summary, we've been looking at making some improvements to the health plan [34:13] while being conscious of the budget. Last meeting, we decided that courts [34:17] would be our best fit and we needed to decide what we wanted to do with [34:21] contributions with the county's contribution towards it and what [34:24] employees would contribute. So, as a reminder, the 2027 budget with the ETF, [34:29] if we were to remain there, was $4.6 million. [34:34] Tough to predict because we don't know if people are going to change within the [34:37] plans. It could be more than that, but if everybody kept the plan they had [34:41] today, that would be the total cost for next year. And of that mix, the [34:46] employer, you, the county, was paying $4.2 million, and the employees were [34:51] contributing $400,000 out of their paychecks towards the plan. So, with [34:56] courts, we were going to bring in two plans. A plan that would allow people to [34:59] have a lower price point and a little higher deductible, as well as HSA [35:03] eligibility, should be new. and then a secondary plan that was um or primary I [35:09] guess better than what the current ETF plan design was. So we're trying to give [35:13] people a better option than what they're used to or a less expensive option if [35:18] that would be their preference. And so we figured that number would land [35:22] between 3.8 million and 4.037 million. So both quite a bit under what [35:28] ETF cost would have been. uh Trisha and the team and I have spent a lot of time [35:33] going between the plans and the contributions and what we came up with [35:36] for a recommendation uh was having a employer contribution of 90% towards the [35:43] co-pay plan which again had co-pays first dollar which does not exist today [35:48] as well as better prescription coverage um and a better deductible than what the [35:52] current ETF plan was and then the HSA plan having a 94% contribution and the [35:58] reason that's higher is the full price of that plan was significantly less than [36:04] the current ETF premiums were. Uh we didn't want to make it free for [36:08] employees. We want to have them to have some skin in the game. Um but you know [36:14] having a higher contribution towards a cheaper plan just makes a ton of sense. [36:18] So if we do this and I have a slide where I'll show you what that looks [36:20] like. Overall the employer Richland County would save $540,000 [36:26] for the year compared to going with the ETF. and employees would save $65,000. [36:32] So, we're splitting that savings basically even with what the [36:36] contributions would be. The numbers could improve with these budget ideas. I [36:40] mean, if more people choose the HSA plan, the county saves even more. Our [36:44] goal was to incentivize employees to take the lower cost plan while keeping [36:49] the better option very comparable to what most people are paying today or [36:53] potentially even less than what people are paying today. Another idea within [36:58] that was to incentivize employees to move to the HSA plan. The county would [37:03] take part of the savings uh and potentially contribute towards an HSA [37:07] for those who choose the higher deductible option. And the reason for [37:11] that is the county currently contributes towards the deductible for those who are [37:15] on the co-pay plan. So, it's not really any new money. We're just shifting it to [37:20] a different bucket. And obviously overall the savings of $540,000 [37:24] to the county is pretty significant and $65,000 less coming out of your [37:30] employees pockets. So these were the two plans. If this is too fuzzy, I can [37:34] switch to the actual Excel spreadsheet. It's hard to fit it onto a PowerPoint [37:38] screen. But our option one again was 1,500 deductible, 3,000 out of pocket. [37:44] Keeping the deductibles embedded, meaning if one person meets the [37:48] deductible, it's just individual. whereas today they have to meet the [37:51] entire family before their benefits kick in. And then co-pays for prescriptions [37:56] and doctor visits from first dollar instead of having to meet their [37:59] deductibles before any coverage kicks in. And then on the right side is our [38:04] HSA plan or higher deductible option with a 4,000 deductible. We wouldn't [38:10] force anybody into that, but they would have the decision on which one they [38:13] would go with. And the county would save $175 per employee per month who chooses [38:20] the HSA and $434 a month per family who chooses the HSA plan. And you do have [38:27] more families than you do individual. So we are really really being conservative [38:32] with these budget numbers. Obviously if more people migrate to the HSA you're [38:36] going to save even more money. But again that combined dollar amount instead of [38:40] being 4.2 million for the county for here would be 3.6. six and the total [38:45] cost for the employees would be 335 instead of over 400,000 for the year. [38:54] Questions or I can slow down and revisit any of that if you'd like me to. [39:03] I do want to highlight with our resolution um and just be very clear [39:07] with the courts one option that is the 1500 or 3,000 deductible in employee [39:13] contribution would be 92 a month for a single planner 226 a month for a family [39:18] plan we would have the H reimbursement for the last 500 or thousand of the [39:23] deductible 500 for a single,000 for family that is what is existing for the [39:28] HR and then the courts too would be the $4,000 or $8,000 deductible. The [39:34] employee contribution would be 45 a month for single, 113 a month for a [39:38] family plan, and then the county would make a contribution to their HSA. Um, [39:43] per year for a single would be 500, and per year for a family would [39:51] » Yeah. And with that, so we're not making it free, but an employees net cost would [39:56] be like a dollar a month to be on coverage if they choose the HSA plans. [40:00] By doing that, hopefully we have, you know, your younger, healthy people that [40:04] are waving coverage today because it's too expensive [40:07] find the plan to be a good fit. So, we're doing everything we can to make it [40:11] as close to free without being free and still saving the county and the [40:14] taxpayers a lot of money for the year. [40:21] » Any questions, comments? [40:25] Before we would go to the resolution, I'll turn it to county administrator for [40:31] her thoughts on on this. >> I'm I'm in support of doing this. Um [40:36] like Kyle stated, we've spent a lot of time talking about this. Um I know there [40:40] was some hesitation with leaving the state plan because if we leave, there's [40:43] a penalty if we go back. Um things that we have to our advantage with leaving [40:49] the state plan is we start to get our data. We're able to start using that [40:53] data to negotiate rates in the future. we don't have that ability with the [40:57] state plan. Um, and in all reality, we got three different bids and they [41:02] weren't bad bids. Um, so we're really hopeful with being able to have our [41:06] data, with being able to work with employees on how to control costs that [41:11] we'll be able to continue to get competitive bids in the future. Um, we [41:16] will continue to support being away from the state plan. [41:19] Are >> there are there health incentives that [41:21] go along with the court's plan? Whether that's uh [41:26] fitness center, health checks, things that look forward to that might help [41:31] these costs. >> Can you answer that? [41:35] » Yep. I I can I heard you. Uh so those are all things that we would look to [41:38] implement in the first year, two, three years of working together towards us to [41:43] keep rates down. When you're with the ETF, there just isn't any reward for [41:47] doing those things because even if you have a good year of claims, you still [41:50] get the increase of everybody else in the state. So, we've already been in [41:54] talks about steering employees to centers of excellence, bringing in a [41:58] wellness program in the future as well, and those would be, you know, points of [42:03] discussion for next year that we could really turn on any time. Um, or um, you [42:08] know, courts can include some of those things, but we did not include those [42:11] things in the court's plans today because there's not a lot of that going [42:14] on currently either. but with a $600,000 savings in county costs. Not that we [42:21] want to spend that, right? But there's a lot of things that the county could do [42:25] with that, you know, to invest in employees. [42:31] After our meeting um two weeks ago, I did send an email to all employees [42:37] outlining what the next step was going to be so that they were aware. I did [42:42] say, "Please reach out if you had questions." Um, I did have a couple of [42:45] questions that were brought to me. Um, but I did not have anybody with [42:50] pitchforks outside of my office. [42:54] » Yeah. And I I think it's worth just reminding, you know, we did multiple [42:58] educational meetings with your benefits committee this year. We surveyed all of [43:01] the employees and got really good engagement from the surveys um to make [43:05] sure that if we spent the time to consider this, we were doing what the [43:09] employees were asking for, not just what for sure I thought was right or what the [43:14] budget felt was right. You know, we wanted to make sure that it was what [43:16] they wanted, not just what we wanted. [43:22] I really appreciate all the time and effort that went into working with [43:26] employees, surveying them, having multiple codes, and coming up with when [43:33] both employees and the company. So, thank you. [43:37] » Sounds like we're ready for the resolution to be read. [43:57] All right. Um, but we're going to probably need that back on the screen. [44:02] » Yeah, >> thank you. [44:06] Here we go. [44:10] » Yep. I stopped. You want Do you want me to stop sharing? Is that what you were [44:13] saying? >> Yes. [44:17] I think I already did. Jeff, >> I think we're good. I took it. Uh, [44:23] resolution approving the contribution and reimbursement schedule for health [44:27] insurance for 2027. Now, therefore, be it resolved by the [44:31] Richland County Board of Supervisors that approval is granted to change the [44:34] premium and reimbursement schedule as follows. [44:38] Uh, ports one $1,500 to $3,000 deductible. Employee contribution $92 a [44:45] month for a single plan 226 a month for a family plan. HR reimbursement for the [44:51] last 5001,000 of the deductible. 500 for a single a,000 for a family. Quartz 2 [44:59] $4,08,000 deductible employee contribution $45 a month for a single [45:03] plan. $113 a month for a family plan. HSA contribution by the county to the [45:09] employee. $500 a year for a single. $1,000 a year for a family. [45:20] » Pleasure. Motion by Kui, second by Welty. Any [45:26] further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. [45:31] » Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. Item number [45:38] 12, discussion of possible action resolution to leave the state of [45:42] Wisconsin's employee trust funds health insurance. [45:46] » So if we are leaving um the state plan, we have to provide notice to them by [45:52] October 1st that we are going to be leaving and that has to include a [45:56] resolution by the full county board. So, I do have a draft resolution um in the [46:01] packet um that I would be asking you to submit. [46:06] » Please read it. >> A resolution terminating participation [46:11] under the Wisconsin Public Employers Group Health Insurance Program. [46:15] Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Richland County uh Board of Supervisors [46:19] that approval is granted to terminate participation in the Wisconsin Public [46:24] Employers Group Health Insurance Plan. The further result is effective December [46:29] 31, 2026 at 11:59 p.m. [46:35] » Motion by Cooey, second by Thompson. Any discussion? [46:41] All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Any opposed? [46:45] » Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you for all your work [46:50] and we appreciate your time. >> Absolutely. Thank you everybody. Have a [46:54] great night. [46:59] Um [47:02] item number 14. So where this one comes from is when we [47:07] were initially doing the evaluation for the county [47:13] administrator, we each ran into real difficulties with the IT program and our [47:23] iPad. So, what we'd like to do today, um, Trisha's already talked to him about [47:29] one issue that she'll talk about. What we'd like to do is generate a list of [47:34] issues that we'd like them to respond to today. [47:39] Okay. So, issues that we had that we'd like it to respond to. And here is one [47:46] and it's resolution from the administrator. [47:50] » So, one of the challenges was documents. when documents are sent to you um and [47:54] being able to complete them on the iPad. What we're looking to do is that we will [47:58] have them create the documents, them send the documents to you so that we [48:03] know that they are compatible to the iPads. So that is one thing that we will [48:07] look to do moving forward. Anytime there is a document, we'll send it to them. [48:11] They will send it out to so hopefully that will help with that issue in the [48:15] future. >> Other issues [48:21] And we should be able to send it back filled out. [48:23] » Yes. Yes. [48:27] Send it again. Yes. [48:33] » I know with mine when I tried to save it, anything is Word. Word hasn't hasn't [48:39] been uploaded on this yet. So, I'm wondering if all the iPads have uploaded [48:47] Word programs on them or some do and some [48:51] don't. >> I don't I don't know because mine will [48:55] say uh when it first comes on there's an update to be done, but I don't have the [48:59] room doesn't have the room on the >> Okay. [49:05] What I learned is there's this icon that's iOS apps [49:10] » and that anything that's in the iOS apps is available to download to your iPad. [49:18] » I didn't know that until month or so ago. [49:22] » What is the name of that icon? >> iOS apps. [49:30] » Looks like this. It looks Yeah, [49:35] » but maybe I it got pushed to me because I kept asking for things. Um, [49:45] » and that is one thing that we'd like to do when I talked with MIS is to create a [49:50] kind of a frequent problem and how to solve it. If we could even have that as [49:55] an icon on your iPads that that might help. [50:00] So, one of the things that I've noticed is when I go to the Richland County [50:07] site and if I'm navigating around and I go [50:11] back every single time, it takes me to the administrator page and I have to [50:16] close it out al together, start over again. [50:21] Does anyone else have that problem? >> Yep. It made me feel important. [50:27] I I guess I didn't realize it had to do that to be. Yeah. [50:33] One thing I would like to correct with this is every time I go to [50:39] download all the little stuff in my packet, my iPad will not do it. So, I [50:46] have to go through a series of I have to clear off all my back screens. I have to [50:50] shut it off, turn it back on, go back into it, and then try to download it. do [50:56] it three times then it will download my packets. That is a sequence I have to do [51:01] every every single time or it will not download my [51:06] packet will only download if I'm here in the room [51:10] otherwise it's incomplete and it just hangs up. [51:17] So I haven't been downloading the packets. [51:23] Do you um one question they had, do you shut down your iPads on a regular basis? [51:28] » Yes. Okay. >> Yes. [51:34] » Wow. [51:40] » So good. [51:43] » I didn't I changed it up, but I don't think I hit the middle button or [51:47] something to change the temperature. No over behind. you know, when we have 20 [51:52] different users with 20 different skill sets in terms of computer, I wonder if [51:59] you know, once live by monthly we would have like a 20 [52:04] minute board accounting board session iPad training [52:11] or something like that basic basic iPad. Well, [52:15] » to get all 20 on the same page given the skill sets can be really difficult. [52:21] » Well, the other thing too is like like I say, my iPad is as full as they can get. [52:26] » I can't upload, you know, anything. >> Uh there's there's stuff here like [52:32] safety features or whatever. This little guy just is not going to take it because [52:36] there's no more room. And when I got this iPad, I took it over across the [52:41] street. Come to find out, he says, "Well, yeah. you need these pictures. [52:45] And I go, "What pictures?" And he and he said, "Well, you I said, I [52:50] don't need any pictures. I just need the basics." And uh so when when some of [52:56] these iPads are given out to county board members, there's a lot of old [53:01] stuff on there that should have been clean before we even got them. And that [53:06] takes up room on your memory. [53:12] And I know there's probably still some stuff on this little guy that I don't [53:17] know how to get to it or how to get rid of it. [53:24] » And they're old. >> Oh, do you [53:28] » any other thoughts or anything on this? [53:34] » I would think if you ask the full county board, [53:37] they have list. >> Pardon? I think if you asked the full [53:41] county board of supervisors if they had items, they would have four. [53:46] » So, shortly after I got them in this role, we did a county board survey with [53:51] MIS. Would you like us to do that again? >> Only if we can comment and note on it [53:57] and send it back. Well, I might ask you by um here's the previous survey [54:05] that we did if you want to just take one and pass it around and let me know if [54:08] you want other questions added and then I will have MIS add this to the packet [54:13] or add share this with you so that it can be fillable and returnable. [54:19] Um >> Microsoft [54:21] something [54:33] And like do you have access to Microsoft Word on your iPad? [54:36] » Access to it. Yeah. Ongoing training pops right up. [54:43] Well, it takes a while. And they said that, "Oh, you can do this [54:48] at home, but then it comes back to where I have to have back down there with my [54:53] computer and my phone is I'd like to be able to have my emails on my phone [54:58] » so that I have quicker access to them rather than my iPad because a lot of [55:02] times with that, you know, you have once you flip it on all stuff and and and get [55:07] your emails, I would rather be able to see it almost like instantly every day [55:12] on my phone." And I've kind of gone round and round with them and they're [55:14] like, "Oh yeah, you just do this, this, this, and I do what they say at home and [55:19] it doesn't work because then it says needs [55:22] provider access or something from it." And it's [55:26] I would love for them to be here and just do it. [55:31] » Anything else? [55:36] » Thanks. And um it's a good chance. [55:42] » Um [55:46] can we just quickly bring chair up to date? Um we did pass [55:53] 7.5 million and $2 million resolutions. We postponed the county draft budget [56:00] because the budget numbers weren't in. We're going to do that Thursday. [56:04] We did pass the county resolution on county health insurance. We did pass the [56:10] resolution to leave the state. >> That's where we're at. [56:16] Um, now we are on number 16, which is [56:23] supervisor's question. [56:27] » I'm sorry. [56:32] » Oh, yeah. 15. 15. Yeah, that's a This was your [56:38] suggestion you put on the agenda. >> Yeah, the board of adjustments currently [56:43] has three members. We need five. And so I would ask that [56:50] the county board of supervisors to perhaps contact people and see if we can [56:55] bring people from throughout the county. It'd be helpful if people were from [56:58] different townships and not having duplication with townships too. [57:04] So I know that that's an issue with board of adjustments and perhaps other [57:08] committees that make I don't know. [57:13] » We can certainly add that to the agenda. It would be nice to have a short blurb [57:16] about what the adjustments do. I'm not sure everybody knows. [57:23] » Yeah, I can talk about it. I'm not the chair of that. [57:26] I was going to say I did put something on the news and announcement section [57:29] about the board of adjustments probably six weeks ago and had a little blurb of [57:34] what it is, but we could add that to the full county board packet and ask them to [57:39] phone a friend and see if they can get somebody. [57:41] » That'd be helpful. >> That'd be helpful. [57:44] » If we have one issue where a member would need to refuse themselves, [57:53] » anything else on number 15? Item 16, measures to increase effective [57:59] communication. Tiffany, this was the agenda item that you asked to have on. [58:04] Yes, we talked about it a little bit before in some other meetings and um [58:10] wanted to bring it up again just because I think it's a very useful thing with [58:15] the different things that have come across the county and different things [58:19] that as far as not wanting to be blindsided by the public on being asked [58:24] different questions. It would be nice that if um there could be just an email [58:29] sent out from the administrator or clerk, whoever has to send it out. So, [58:34] it's not a a forum thing. Um, you know, just to send out an FYI. Hey, look, this [58:39] is what happened, you know, if questions are brought up. Um, you know, hey, here [58:45] here's a good response, you know, just so that we're all on the same page. We [58:50] come across with what I feel like a unified truck so that it's not like [58:55] somebody asks you a question, you I don't know anything about that, you [58:58] know, and and you just you're just caught off guard and then you don't get [59:02] back with with it. So that's that's what I would like [59:07] to kind of discuss. [59:17] Do you have an idea or [59:22] what what would the trigger be? What would the the [59:27] is it the water cooler doesn't work? Is [59:32] obviously we're not interested in that people may be upset about. But I mean [59:36] what what's what what do you create as a trigger to make sure that that is a your [59:41] guideline maybe [59:46] I don't want to keep bringing up the school board but with that what we've [59:50] done through our guideline with that is anything that would hit the media [59:56] is what we put on there because anything that's going to hit the media and of [1:00:00] course nowadays you've got stuff going on on social media constantly and it [1:00:04] blows up in a hurry. Um, different things like that. So, anything that [1:00:08] would hit the media, it would be nice to be notified it of it before it hits the [1:00:14] media so that we're prepared. Um, I know one comment was the [1:00:21] while ago the flooding that happened at the campus. I remember people asking me [1:00:26] about that and I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. [1:00:29] They're like, what was there flooding? And I'm like, I don't think so. You [1:00:32] know, I'm like, I didn't hear anybody. Then it came on the radio, you know, and [1:00:36] then, you know, it was the community was all talking about why wasn't this, why [1:00:41] wasn't this, why wasn't it, you know, monitored and all all this stuff. It [1:00:46] just would have been nice to say, here's what happened. It was being looked [1:00:50] after. This was, you know, just so you could foresee like some of the questions [1:00:56] that would come forth so that the county would have been able as far as the [1:00:59] county board would have been able to feel those questions and all be looking [1:01:05] like we all know what's going on. [1:01:12] I know Darene if so going back to the water situation that was a little [1:01:18] » I learned about I wasn't on the county board and I learned about it right away [1:01:22] because I attended one of the standing committee meetings where it was [1:01:26] discussed and so I'm wondering whether it would be helpful to have the ch [1:01:33] committee chairs standing committee chairs an ad hoc committee chair if [1:01:37] there is an item that is somewhat [1:01:43] of interest by others perhaps to submit those to the county administrator and [1:01:48] then the county administrator could back [1:01:55] that you that you received input. It wasn't solely on you to figure out [1:01:59] sifting through everything that comes up. Is this an item or not? But perhaps [1:02:03] the chairs of the committee that entertains those topics. [1:02:08] » Yeah. Like E. coli in Pine Valley water is important. That'd be newsworthy. [1:02:14] » That newsworthy idea. It's pretty clear >> as long as we're not talking social [1:02:19] media news. >> Correct. [1:02:22] » There's a difference. >> There's a big difference. [1:02:24] » Yeah. Everything else [1:02:29] has no weight to it whatsoever. >> Yeah. [1:02:32] » Yeah. >> I do like the idea if the chair says, [1:02:35] "Hey, administrator, please share this with the board." I think they should [1:02:38] know. I love that idea because it's not just me trying to figure out what it is [1:02:43] you want to know. [1:02:48] Carrie, that might be part of your chair's report. You recommend the [1:02:53] department chairs that whenever there's something newsworthy that happens that [1:02:57] we inform all the capable members. I think it's it could be department [1:03:03] chairs, it could be standing committee chairs. It's people that are informed [1:03:08] and aware that they recognize that there's a greater need to share this [1:03:12] with the >> it's pretty much common sense. I don't [1:03:16] think we need a formal notion on it or anything. And I would I guess I would [1:03:21] think that if something comes up like the campus wire, I guess for some reason [1:03:26] that keeps creeping out. Um and I think I was on that committee that brought [1:03:31] that up and that was probably days later, but we may not have had a [1:03:35] meeting for three weeks. So unless the chair knew about that to [1:03:42] say, "Hey, maybe we should do something about this." [1:03:45] It just happened. I said that for three days after it happened, we had a meeting [1:03:50] and I got a call on it too and I I called the administrator said going on [1:03:56] and answered questions. I think it's pretty common sense because [1:04:01] last time I remember it happened real clearly was when the county board chair [1:04:06] found out about the election, he sent that right right about right away. [1:04:09] » Okay. Right. >> Yeah. So it it was pretty clear. So in [1:04:13] that case, it wasn't it wasn't presented at a meeting, but he found out about [1:04:16] something and then address it. >> Then he immediately responded to [1:04:20] » perfect what you're saying. They didn't have to wait for for that committee to [1:04:23] have a meeting, >> right? [1:04:25] » Make that decision. All right. >> That makes more sense. [1:04:28] » I understand >> because that was media focused. [1:04:33] » Anything else on this hearing? None. We will move on to number [1:04:40] 17, the close session. The chair may entertain a motion under close session [1:04:44] pursuant to Wisconsin statute section 19.85 [1:04:48] considering employment promotion compensation and performance evaluation [1:04:52] data by the employee over which the government has jurisdiction or exercise [1:04:57] responsibility the county administrator. [1:05:02] Do we have a motion to go into close session? Motion by second by Kramer. [1:05:09] Roll call vote please. [1:05:15] Kramer, >> yes. [1:05:17] » Angel, >> yes. [1:05:18] » Wely, >> yes. [1:05:20] » Johnson, >> yes. [1:05:21] » Frank, >> yes. [1:05:23] » Sever [1:05:30] » speaking up.