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so with that can I have a motion to adopt

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the locals gender

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consecutively concert yeah I mean you go

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we can't do both that's our west coast river was

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carried any disclosures up can interest journalists are there are

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many minutes for us seeing none we have an education

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training session with respect to the Richmond hill centre and

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... because there is a minor city manager are ready

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to begin the presentation chart

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thank you Mr mayor members of council

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I wanted to kick this off in normally it would

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be ... meet ... war or Calvin or one of

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our other staff but ... I did want to highlight

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that in terms of city building Richmond twenty first Richmond

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hill centre is the single most biggest impact team ...

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... exercise that the city will undertake and it's not

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just about a planning exercise which we will talk about

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but it's much much more than that it's about setting

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a community it's about setting a context it's a spot

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set in the future for for Richmond hill so today

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and we're going to go over ... some for the

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purpose of why we're here we're gonna talk a little

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bit of that ... how we're structured in what the

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deliverables are specifically

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we're going to get a picture of because for some

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health centres not island it has contacts and has ...

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planning context as well we're gonna hear from Michael Morrissey

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... who as lead planning exercises in and Langstaff to

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the south of Richmond center ... and then we're going

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to get ... walk through the principles the key principles

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that are are ... part of our visioning exercise in

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as we develop the regional center

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why we're here today and wanted to just give you

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the nuts and bolts details of why we're here today

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... and ... give me an update on where we

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are in the process and what's gone on ... we're

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also going to look at ... some of that the

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draft principles that were developed in the first round we

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had in a community engagement meeting ... and ... we've

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spent some time with counsel and so we want to

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give you some feedback and how some of the principles

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... that are rounding up and rounding out and we're

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also going to present some of the options that are

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being explored and get some feedback around that but this

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is really meant to be an interactive exercise with counsel

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to get your feedback and and to start to set

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up a course and direction for ... for planning the

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Richmond center

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at the heart of that I mentioned at the very

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start that the Richmond hill centre that is much more

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than a secondary plan it is about the life of

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our city it's about the future of our city and

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... this is this statement kind of captures an aspirational

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aspect to what we've been hearing from both the council

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and members of the public Richmond hill center is it

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will be a world leading urban grow center and mobility

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hub with a future focused community so it captures a

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lot ... ... in that statement it's about how we're

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thinking about the future about how were people were planning

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in a community in the context of of a larger

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urban place in a really ... the the mobility hub

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aspects of it it's a confluence of of a lot

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of activity people are coming to the Richmond hill centre

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to stop please stay stay here and work here to

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live there to play there and also it is a

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a vehicle to transport other people too ... the economic

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engine of the country

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how we're structured internally ... I've just want to remind

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you ... it because the importance of this project is

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being run out of my office ... SO we can

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align all the resources to put the effort that's required

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into this and to the planning of this ... ...

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the significant project the executive champions project is mita candy

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... and the the actual ... legs on the ground

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it's being led by Daniel things from my office ...

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Clement Chung is the as the planner who's responsible for

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overseeing the the actual planning documents that we have the

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consultants on board urban strategies who you'll hear from ...

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before that and ... we also have a municipal technical

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working group that's made up of people across the the

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corporation that has set ... the vehicle is the vehicle

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to provide feedback into the group

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with respect to the work plan where we are in

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there the work plan has three components as you're aware

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... to coordinate the Richmond hill input on preliminary design

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and engineering that's the nuts and bolts concrete how that

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where the subway is gonna link up and how it

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gets integrated threat security how it looks and feels and

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we have the bus lanes the BRT bus lanes are

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coming in we have to integrate that the go go

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rail as well that's one aspect of it and also

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in the larger broader stance were developing and the vision

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in the plan and the actual secondary plan for the

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Richmond hill centre that will guide the land use ...

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regime into the future and also as we have a

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role to play in advocating for Richmond hill centre writ

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large with ... with our other partners with Metrolinx now

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who's running the the ... ... the project to the

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actual delivery of the subway ... advocating with the region

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on what are unique and special needs are and how

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we fit into the reasons ... ... context as well

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so where we are in terms of deliverables worrying at

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... ... the preliminary design to fifteen to twenty percent

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plumbing design being ... right now targeting March of twenty

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twenty I will say that we learned yesterday that with

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the transition of the project from your preacher rapid transit

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corporation to Metrolinx ... that ... ... date may stretch

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... because of the issues that they want to ...

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hand that work often to verify that what's been going

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on is ... is truly work where the province and

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the other partners want to go they're also changing the

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governance structure at Metrolinx to ensure that ... things like

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if the value capture above the stations are are consistently

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carried through an optimized where they can't so there's a

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bit of planning has worked its needs to be done

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at Metrolinx that'll inform our secondary planning process and also

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... will probably end up pushing the date of the

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plumbing design engineering back bit

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our goal has been to ... finish the ... had

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perfect present a draft of the secondary plan and by

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June twenty twenty ... this as of yesterday may push

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again because if we don't know exactly where the subway

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line it comes in ... to Richmond hill centre if

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there's changing to our ... for that set mandated from

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from ... ... from Metrolinx in terms of densities and

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heights and so on ... we want to make sure

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that were were reflecting those requirements in our in our

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documents as well

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so this point so I think it's worthwhile getting in

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the context of what of what we're planning here in

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Richmond hill and we've invited Michael Morrissey who is his

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fancy tile senior design and development visor ... with more

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seated at designs and ... he's been off the lead

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in the Langstaff planning efforts south of south of seven

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and ... he'll walk you through the Langstaff plan and

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highlight some of the some of the connections that ...

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... that are possible with the Richmond center so I'll

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turn it over to Mike Moore seen

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thank you welcome Sir much

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yeah I'm Michael Morrissey and ... my career started in

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Markham center twenty years ago twenty years ago actually Frank

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Scarpelli the mayor Schor petty was their major counselor Jim

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Jones was there and at the time they got interested

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in the work in the summer

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and we hired Andreas wanting myself and your architects

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the master plan Martin says he

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on the lower right hand corner is a three D.

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massing of the Markham center ... that we revisited in

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twenty ten

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the density there now is at 10 times coverage

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we thought we were

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changing the game two point five times coverage we took

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suburban sprawl and we we imposed or implemented in a

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newer business models to create a civic square

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full of arts to create walkable communities and we thought

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two point five times coverage like the massing was six

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to eight stories we thought that was way out of

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the box when we revisit twenty ten twenty years ago

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we were visited in twenty ten

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we realize that the the world has changed and I

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think that's the perspective that you have to keep in

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mind when you're doing these vision plans and you're looking

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sort of large scale city center city building developments if

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you have to keep in mind that the big picture

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will evolve over time and that's very very important when

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it comes to developing your secondary plan and one of

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the lessons that we're learning in Langstaff as were implementing

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our two thousand and nine ... ... approved master plan

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is that the secondary plan has to be flexible because

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over time ten years later things change

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and the plan has to have built in flexibility at

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the city very primal

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the process top of Toronto when I initially drew Markham

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center before seven didn't exist we knew it was coming

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... in in all the perspective drawings and watercolors envision

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drawings that they did time I had to drive in

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and now if you look at the top of Toronto

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four seven is the East West line that connects the

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pro centers ... Vaughan Richmond hill Langstaff and Markham center

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to the east

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each case they have a mobility hub in the province

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is dedicated to that those areas are gonna become pro

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centers

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the price of only 100 acres

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it is south of four seven founded by young streets

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and we have a third important connection at the mid

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point that links

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2 of the goal line bisects the property

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and if you know the current go station is

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weekly distance between Richmond hill and **** staff center area

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we anticipate course the online

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... I'm working as a ... might might my career's

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gone from trained as an architect spent twenty years master

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planning and working at the very very big picture all

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over North America and currently I've kind of got the

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third piece of the puzzle in that I'm involved in

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the development side in the implementation of these projects these

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visions S. A. I'm on the tier two several developers

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in the city including on this project

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I'm on retainer to ... come morning slant and I

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don't know if this printer works doesn't come from the

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east side we on twenty acres plus the woodlot

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and condor properties ... owns most of the west side

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and a portion of on the east precinct

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those two development groups ... are working closely together with

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the municipality to realize phase one of ... Langstaff

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this is the master plan that was endorsed in two

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thousand nine

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we had about a 2 year planning process

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the the market has had a reputation for ... really

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is one of the leaders that embrace very early on

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the principles of new urbanism and you don't hear a

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lot about minimalism anymore because for the most part over

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twenty years it's become part of the planning part of

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lancets what we we already know what it is now

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we've we've adopted that we know that the creation of

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... open spaces and ... compact development is the future

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again it was around 100 acres this project

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and if you look at the the master plan I'll

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probably one thing really ... graphically jumps out and that

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the vision that Peter Calthorpe from San Francisco who we

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hired for this job he is one of the leading

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urbanist master planners in America ... his friend Hans up

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was to introduce a central green open space bond that

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connects the property from west to east from young to

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probably the strongest idea and the boldest idea in this

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is to in fact a race away the bisecting the

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property east of west precincts by going over the goal

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line with the infrastructure of roads and open space to

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effectively disappear the goal line now as many of you

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know the goal line is not simply a passenger ...

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line is actually also free line so to have it

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go underneath the the city streets and blocks is essential

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to create a unified hundred acre ... master planned community

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the infrastructure costs associated with associated with that are significant

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and the cost sharing agreements and all things are going

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to be complicated but it is necessary to to create

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something I listen to fight it by the goal line

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for a look at the massing

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this gives you a kind of a high level massing

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it has evolved in the ten years since it was

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the worst I would say if the DFS sites this

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project as shown here was in the neighborhood of let's

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say six to eight

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obligating over 10 to 12 now in terms of FSI

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the the massive shows that

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as you would expect the highest density would be near

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the transfer station on young street then it comes down

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towards that park in the center of the west the

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second and then it it ... the feathers down comes

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back up to a high point around the the logical

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nor self transit connection that has to occur between the

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proposed ... hop that since you've been ... Langstaff and

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the underpass that already exists underneath a four seven two

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that center portion of the links that match point and

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then at the far east end where you see that

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with a lot that's ... come morning excellence phase one

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area where we've got twenty acres and phase one between

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condor and comm more anxious when we're we're we're putting

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together ... our proposals are submissions for five thousand units

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five thousand units is the first increment of the project

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... before it triggers the schools and the online

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the

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has been involved in Markham center and now Langstaff over

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the course of his career for twenty years and I

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had heard that

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there was a ... a master planned project that started

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in the eighties embrace many of the new urbanist principles

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at the time

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streets blocks where's

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... it was called at a park city so he

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taught me early this year to put together a tour

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of Manhattan high density projects ... because the fact is

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working in a green field kind of area and we

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need to look at something that's actually gone through this

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entire process from ideation through implementation and to hold the

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vision any fall for it ... over the course of

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thirty years and to see something for real that exists

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and has many of the components that we're grappling with

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today like urban schools like very very curated significant open

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spaces hi density towers and sustainable development ... criteria

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they're pretty ... also invited near barrow and senior staff

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to accompany us off on that trip to New York

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which we did in mid July it was a three

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day visit

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... and we ... looked at Hudson yards which is

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really the the the latest thinking on high density ...

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we looked at data Park City which turns out to

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be almost identical to the blank stuff in terms of

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the master plan it's a hundred acres the density is

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high but in fact it Lang stuff were even higher

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than that of Park City

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this is a comparison on the top is the plan

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of Vatican City

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now below that key is blank staff ... they're both

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hundred acres ...

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actor the number of units you better Park City they

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have around a population of twenty thousand and we're anticipating

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for ... ... Langstaff fifty thousand units are thirty thousand

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people

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so it's actually about a third more dense

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... the significant if you can see on the monitors

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the top far right hand corner of the photograph ...

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talk to the open space

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and based on my experience over the last couple of

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decades and as we get more more dense ... and

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and experiences Tronto

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... open space has to be the most important ...

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ingredients or components in these master plans ... we were

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living in smaller and smaller condominium spaces so in my

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opinion ... the office space has to be beautifully curated

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has to come first

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and I think that's the latest thing

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to the degree that I was in New York last

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week specifically to go into a few a few of

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the leading landscape architecture firms in America ... the one

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that I visited Michael van Valkenburgh has done extensive work

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in front of ... he did the open space the

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significant open spaces in better Park City which we thought

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were like remarkable

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... pieces of Central Park drop right into a new

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development okay all that kind of immersive environment and super

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program to

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right ... play fields all kinds of things are happening

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in there in a very very tight compact high density

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Berman

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so that's the big takeaway from data park city

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this is a call to drop park

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... we've got in the plan you could see for

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major development blocks New York ten fifty storey podium is

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sort of standard practice ... surrounded by you know thirty

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forty fifty story tower on the same kind of thing

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we're doing a lank stuff we're doing for the most

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part six to ten story podium with towers forty fifty

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stories ... but it's the interior of the block that's

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so critical and ... this is tear drop park concept

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... show you a few slides of that

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so this is on a tear off up a super

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high density block

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not now you see the the lighting on the ground

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plane of that slide on the left ... what they

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have on top of the buildings in these buildings are

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fully loaded up with the latest thinking a sustainability and

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we'll get into a little bit of that but they

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have these big reflectors on the roof to reflect sunk

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down into those quarters I mean they fought back since

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we

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the open spaces brown ... unlike any other city that

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I've ever seen and I think that that the group

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that went all came to the same conclusion when we

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compare these different projects like the Hudson yards is almost

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too much of an entertainment district it doesn't feel like

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a real place but there's something about battery Park City

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which is very humble and I think part of it

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has to do with that they extended the grid of

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the city into it and they simply made really really

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well developed open space systems for people

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and I think it just makes it feel very real

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like a real place and something that is very translatable

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today to what we're doing certainly like stuff and I

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believe we can do the same in Richmond hill

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... there's quite a few players for children and all

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that kind of rock massing in the ... the vegetation

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that is just one kind of moment better Park City

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which is very immersive you feel like you're in Central

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Park in the middle of a a bottom of the

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new development high density block ... other parts of it

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have ... all kinds of play areas that have been

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carefully orchestrated so that there's a wide range of for

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the most immersive you could get lost in that kind

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of open space to something that's very specific usable and

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programs

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... one of the biggest issues that we're both going

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to be dealing with over the next decade

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and we've spent the last two years on the implementation

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side now dealing with the issue of urban schools

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... everyone here knows about do you know how challenging

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it is to change the legislation that the policy at

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the provincial level the firm up the promise knows about

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this that we're creating cities they they're they're allocating Irving

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grossly density to these locations it's coming the city of

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Toronto is currently ... grappling with in block thirty one

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building really their first urban school of any real consequence

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is very very dense area in the relevance and yet

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that school doesn't even have towers on top of it

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so it's not fully integrated but when you go to

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Bedford city

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you'll actually see the mall built out so this is

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not just a speculation like we've got a basically reduce

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the five acre site down put play fields on the

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roof and talk the school into a multi floor podium

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of a high rise development it actually exists here and

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so that was significant it helped us to you know

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ground truth that this exists what's the programming currently condor

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and ... come wearing a sweater but

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diving deep into ... the data related to the schools

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and how they work ... at the end of one

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axes ... is that large triangle on the top left

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hand corner and that is a multi level high school

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but it also has a community center and ... it

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also has a great skill so it's this kind of

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overlap program that's the kind of thinking is required to

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do high density development and you're gonna see that team

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concept peated here about a Park City

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... the to the right side is another public school

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built in the podium of another ... develop block

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and then to the right of that again you see

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a large one hectic or green ... I'll talk a

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little bit about that on the next slide but that's

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like a shared amenity space ... that has a number

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of play fields and so on it happened sort of

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simultaneously with the community center built into

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so rather than ever the school has five acres and

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by the way in Langstaff we were allocated three school

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one hundred acres that's fifteen acres of the hundred and

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ninety minus the open space what we've got left to

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develop we don't have a lot so it's so important

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that we create these compact repeats cools

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you see where that school that's a public schools located

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on not on the block and below that is ...

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an eye level view of the entrance and to the

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right of that is the four story a grade school

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which has ... if you see the leader line on

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the top right hand corner that note down between the

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tower and the podium building that's where the play fields

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are

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for that school

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that left him slide

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is that one hectare acre area that's devoted to multi

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use play fields and has a community center tucked under

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it if you look to the far right hand corner

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of that image that is the view along that curving

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kind of perimeter of that block

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what they've done is that there's a level change from

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the rate at the street level across the block party

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folks towers and then it drops one floor and that's

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where the the play fields of Kerr in that sort

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of dealt with that date on between the two they

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talked to community center

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last week I went for tourists because I just thought

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what a remarkable way to have it in there without

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being a standalone building I guess talked in not simply

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the podium but the lovable local

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and they have a pool and there're a basketball court

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... in a whole host of other ... community functions

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go underneath the podium and have this glazed wall with

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full access to

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and place

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if you look very closely at the two diamonds circumscribed

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in there as well actually that plan you'll see a

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soccer pitch

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and when you go there

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... it is an amazing space that's so activated because

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what's happening is in one corner you have some kids

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doing some ... some some soccer in a corner ...

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they'll have a full baseball game going on on one

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of the ... diamonds so ... you'll see any number

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sports happening simultaneously it's an incredibly active place and again

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it's this notion that shared space shared program this kind

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of fusion of all these different activities that's city life

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okay is not segregation of everything that's the old model

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that's the supermodel you get on a bus to school

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you get in a car to go to the grocery

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store everything is compact here for mixed use development ...

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on the bottom right hand corner are two of the

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early drawings from like thirty years ago

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so we're collectively Richmond hill and Markham with these projects

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at that stage in the bottom right hand corner I

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mean if I write everyone here to go to New

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York that's an hour away and to kick the tires

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I think we all need to collectively like just go

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there and say Hey this actually exists this is where

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we're going this is the kind of population we have

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to have in the city and you know if we're

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lucky that it's so close for us to look at

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and if you're doing that as a group let me

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know because the battery Park City authority we went to

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New York ... open their doors wide for an entire

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day they toured as the project ... we did lunch

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there we have discussions and lectures with the CEO of

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the battery Park City authority except truck

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and I suggested to them

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that why don't we set up a sister city relationship

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you exist we're in the vision stage and they just

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like grab that and said yes we want we're so

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excited first of all Michael that you're interested in us

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they just want the doors open I just made a

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cold call

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... and ... now we got this ongoing relationship with

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someone last week were texting and emailing and sending its

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content constantly ... so

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finally this is the last slide

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... we talked about master planning we talk about development

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and now we talk about architecture specific buildings and the

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hallmark of this development ... para park city ... and

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by the way any better for city it's just the

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landfill right it's a tabula rasa it is a huge

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deal effectively that's another reason why it's so applicable to

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us their start they started from now until the second

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in 30 years

519
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all from an architectural point of view

520
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,400
the mandate early on

521
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,880
thirty years ago to do super sustainable towers this was

522
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,990
even before the lead kind of initiatives even existed the

523
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:25,060
very first LEED platinum building America is the solar building

524
00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:28,560
which is the building in the middle and that building

525
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:31,370
... we got a tour of that building we went

526
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:33,770
up and down we looked at the grey water ...

527
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,420
solar all the various things that they've got built into

528
00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:40,500
that project ... diagram will left comes from The New

529
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:44,240
York Times where they start to detail out this is

530
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,320
a an article from like fifteen years ago

531
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,690
of what was happening in battery Park City and they

532
00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:54,020
have led the way in terms of sustainability in architecture

533
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:57,210
so from every point of view we feel like we've

534
00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:59,860
got a sister city to help us to get where

535
00:31:59,860 --> 00:32:03,810
we're going and I think you know the idea that

536
00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:07,560
the the the sum is greater than the parts

537
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,620
is something that we embraced when Scarpetta invited

538
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:16,510
and Richmond hill New York

539
00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:18,890
thank you for the work together I think we can

540
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:24,760
realize a great ... regional center in the GTA

541
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,520
thank you for your time

542
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:34,740
thank you

543
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:38,580
Mister mayor maybe another questions for Mister Moore C. R.

544
00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:41,530
we wanted to carry on with that ... urban strategies

545
00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:44,110
at this time ...

546
00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:45,400
more about

547
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,580
... understanding what is across the road from us yeah

548
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:52,230
that was the intention is one given opportunity because it

549
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:56,360
is a fairly significant developments ... adjacent to Richmond house

550
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,580
of that if there was any

551
00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:05,000
any area resources here with regard to like stuff that

552
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,850
is it recognizing the I could speak okay thank you

553
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:11,250
very much I appreciate it very much about that China

554
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:16,010
we look beyond our borders because after all ... I

555
00:33:16,010 --> 00:33:19,400
catch a term that's what we have going on this

556
00:33:19,510 --> 00:33:22,510
in many ways and forms and shapes up it's not

557
00:33:22,510 --> 00:33:25,660
so much about the land stuff to say because initially

558
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,790
I do have a question you know reporter well Richmond

559
00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:33,400
hill centre why are we are looking at ... ...

560
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:36,540
... the land softly we will honor her for months

561
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,850
... the mayor off ma come school friend for many

562
00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:42,850
years and many times and also regional concert you jobs

563
00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:47,800
... but I understand David B. connection no doubt also

564
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,080
it's not so much about on the ... glanced off

565
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,210
gateway per se but ... perhaps a Mister may offer

566
00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:58,070
stuff at some point in time during the call ...

567
00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:02,560
whole presentation of this trust me

568
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,780
does not showing the boundaries of which will center unless

569
00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:11,210
I missed it I went through the ... package very

570
00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:13,970
carefully last night ... at some point probably helpful so

571
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:16,720
to see how those connection would be and after I

572
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,260
do appreciate the percent of the chair on the first

573
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:25,400
line is showing all those almost venia linkage along highway

574
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,140
seven so I think it's important that you have the

575
00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:31,680
ponderous I'm not so much on your presentation so ...

576
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,560
but the boundaries of the Richmond hill centre jobs employment

577
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,410
at the company thank you so thank you very much

578
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:41,980
yeah this was a this was this press this slide

579
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:46,000
I created like J. as a Markham centric slide right

580
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:48,740
that's that's what I was trying to play even on

581
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:50,120
that site if you start to really look at it

582
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,170
close at five realign the four seven translates the way

583
00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:55,330
I think it should be which is parallel in four

584
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:59,070
seven in my opinion ... so there there are some

585
00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:02,720
editorial pieces to that but agreed and I actually have

586
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:07,180
spent about two years ... working on Richmond hill and

587
00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:11,740
Langstaff together in a comprehensive vision that spans from Vaughn

588
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,970
to Cornell with regional council Jim Jones a lecturer in

589
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:17,430
Siemens

590
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:20,420
in two years studying the undergrounding of the hydro corridor

591
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:24,700
which is something for another conversation so I'm very familiar

592
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:28,090
with what's going on I've looked at the urban strategies

593
00:35:28,090 --> 00:35:31,040
plan for two years at the time I admired it

594
00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:32,940
but I think there's one issue which is that hard

595
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:35,460
to corner which is something that you know needs to

596
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:38,960
be looked at carefully wouldn't it be nice if you

597
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,630
could underground to me that's the front door of Richmond

598
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:44,820
hill as it should be on happy seven

599
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:49,320
thank you thank you thank you Mr chairman

600
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,230
one more

601
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:54,500
I thank you thanks very much for a presentation that

602
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,810
was really exciting and I think you know it it

603
00:35:56,810 --> 00:35:59,570
really speaks to the kind of ... you know new

604
00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:02,820
types of ... cities that are we're learning from past

605
00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:05,320
experience are becoming more and more and more livable and

606
00:36:05,350 --> 00:36:07,570
I think you know that this is a a probably

607
00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:10,850
a very relevant discussions for us as we embark on

608
00:36:10,850 --> 00:36:15,230
this I I just have one question ... so ...

609
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,310
I get the idea of creating this place that's a

610
00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:22,160
livable community and I and I'm totally I think that's

611
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,710
crucial ... when when you talk to families thought that

612
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:28,800
one of the top

613
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,230
couple of things that they say when they talk about

614
00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:34,090
livable communities is a well there's good schools in the

615
00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:36,710
area I want to live there ... so I was

616
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:39,290
very interested to hear about the urban school idea and

617
00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:42,250
I I do understand that the reason that we make

618
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,910
schools as compact as we possibly can although as a

619
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:50,020
as a as a parent who's just seen their child

620
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:52,520
just graduate from the school system and also as a

621
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,830
teacher in my way past life ... I am not

622
00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:59,630
an expert beyond that context but I do understand some

623
00:36:59,630 --> 00:37:02,120
of the questions that parents would be asking about urban

624
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,870
schools ... so it you know and I also I

625
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:08,430
will also say a preface my comment that you know

626
00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:11,090
the schools are not the municipality's Bailey wick although they're

627
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:13,700
one of the very important partners in the process so

628
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:17,590
in that battery park ... city

629
00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:19,590
can you do you are you aware of that of

630
00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:23,550
the that process that went through with regard to speaking

631
00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:27,590
to people about who our educational focused about the functionality

632
00:37:27,590 --> 00:37:31,890
of those spaces with regard to like child development

633
00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:33,780
I mean when things about New York is that the

634
00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:36,800
urban school model has always been there okay yeah so

635
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,870
there are there throughout

636
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:43,410
Manhattan urban schools everywhere right even early on in the

637
00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:46,540
... initial master plan like Toronto schools are kind of

638
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,330
in the neighborhoods right used to have to walk to

639
00:37:49,330 --> 00:37:52,590
school this is within your neighborhood ... it was only

640
00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:55,000
with the car that everything got it kind of pushed

641
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,510
out right ... so it is a back to the

642
00:37:57,510 --> 00:38:01,460
future model and ... we're now that we've kind of

643
00:38:01,460 --> 00:38:05,560
done the the the big picture pass at the Park

644
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,780
City

645
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,660
the next step is to drill down and that's what

646
00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:11,620
we're doing like as of yesterday we had a conference

647
00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:14,640
call with them about urban schools and we're we're making

648
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,430
a presentation in Markham about urban schools and specifically turns

649
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:21,780
out that I showed you just a few they're six

650
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:25,520
schools there and some of them are sharing like in

651
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,800
high school there's two ... under several others I didn't

652
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,680
realise myself that there were six end the best school

653
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,790
in Manhattan is there

654
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:37,790
okay so okay I I and I understand you that's

655
00:38:37,790 --> 00:38:39,860
what's so nice is we can talk to them and

656
00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:42,450
they can tell us more and the backstory and how

657
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:45,900
it works and what doesn't work actually I suspected that

658
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:48,600
some sort of similar models of urban schools will be

659
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,780
relevant to us as we move forward on our side

660
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:53,160
of the highway seventy two but I guess the only

661
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,530
thing I I'd I'd like to be convinced and learn

662
00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:59,490
more about this are there are there urban schools currently

663
00:38:59,490 --> 00:39:02,940
operating in in in this area now I I I

664
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:06,170
just want to make one comment I'm not talking about

665
00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:10,200
the neighborhood schools that are in Toronto because those schools

666
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,580
aren't traditional schools in fact some of them are in

667
00:39:12,580 --> 00:39:16,620
very historic buildings that have a playground maybe not as

668
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:19,100
big as our suburban playgrounds but it is a traditional

669
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,140
model of what you're talking about in urban schools ...

670
00:39:22,330 --> 00:39:25,260
is not yes I think there may be this is

671
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:27,520
one of the things we're doing by the way on

672
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:30,420
the open space system for lines such as we are

673
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:31,880
revisiting

674
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,140
in part because

675
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:36,340
Calthorpe when you did the master plan he put a

676
00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:39,320
bunch of stickers found down at the end if you

677
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,520
I. concert set urban school or in school or in

678
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,810
school but it didn't have a park and it didn't

679
00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:46,060
have the five acres and then have anything sent something

680
00:39:46,060 --> 00:39:48,230
we're stuck with the problem and if you look at

681
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:50,440
this why was caution you about the way you write

682
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,460
your secondary plan secondary plant was sold like over prescriptive

683
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,910
and had a lot to do with just an experience

684
00:39:57,910 --> 00:40:00,200
I think right this is all new okay so getting

685
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,450
back to the question are you can you point me

686
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:04,310
to an urban school

687
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:06,640
apple intron we've actually done a couple studies we we

688
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,900
retain sass architects and they've they've done a study for

689
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:13,600
us ... and one box thirty one is one that's

690
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,070
currently under construction if you go by on the ...

691
00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:18,910
Gardner you can see it down and the prevalence and

692
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:22,990
there's like buildings all the way around tall fifty storey

693
00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:26,340
towers in the center there's like a a probably a

694
00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:29,850
four acre park and then a four acre parcel adjacent

695
00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:34,390
to it and have like a three story ... school

696
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:38,440
with playing fields on the roof ... I don't know

697
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,580
the specifics as to whether or not they have a

698
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:43,160
play field at the ground plane I do not think

699
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,750
so right you know what I do want to go

700
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:46,390
too much further so now we have lots of other

701
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:48,320
stuff to do so that we study I would direct

702
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,800
comment to our staff and please I would like to

703
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,910
get some information on that I'm sure you guys know

704
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:56,180
this stuff so I would like to be made aware

705
00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:58,500
of it as soon as possible thank thank you this

706
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,150
is very exciting forget all this is done we're going

707
00:41:01,150 --> 00:41:04,860
to the community two yeah okay thank you

708
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:07,060
all right urban strategies

709
00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:09,600
user of preemptive

710
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,440
good morning Mr flickers through two or start can I

711
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,820
ask a question just before we start what is the

712
00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:19,120
acreage

713
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,820
right right seventy hectares is there ... Richmond hill side

714
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:26,430
of third row center and I'd have to convert ask

715
00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:28,910
someone to convert that for me too that's okay figure

716
00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:33,280
that out ourselves the other aspect was ... our boundary

717
00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:35,810
are eastern boundary is not all the way over to

718
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:39,750
Bayview either that's correct okay I just since record just

719
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:42,210
following up that there to school

720
00:41:42,210 --> 00:41:44,140
you take a look at it the trauma context one

721
00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:47,140
would be north twelve collegiate which is actually integrated with

722
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:50,440
condominium developments on top ... and then the second is

723
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,220
located in the same slow St Lawrence neighbourhood it's a

724
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,690
school built into the bottom of a of a housing

725
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:59,540
development and then the dentals ... that Michael showed they

726
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:02,790
share the space out front it's a park on weekends

727
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:05,210
and after hours in the school playground during the week

728
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:07,760
they're great examples and the TVS we would be able

729
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,510
to sort of give you feedback or give your team

730
00:42:10,510 --> 00:42:14,660
back on okay all right thank you okay again for

731
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:16,620
having us my name is Li Ming graph I'm a

732
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,980
senior associate planner with urban strategies ... and my colleague

733
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:23,290
Craig many partners urban strategies and will be providing an

734
00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:27,010
update about the secondary plan study that site that's currently

735
00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:28,370
underway

736
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:30,470
focusing on ... what we've heard so far and where

737
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:33,490
we are in a process right now

738
00:42:33,490 --> 00:42:36,460
skipper that agenda just as a refresher in terms of

739
00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:39,570
the process we have a five phase ... a scope

740
00:42:39,570 --> 00:42:41,860
of work which we started back in April of this

741
00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:44,700
year and we spoke to lots of different people early

742
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,710
on in phase one and we collected a lot of

743
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:50,030
different information ... from a range of stakeholders from city

744
00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:53,900
staff the young subway team MTO schools school boards I

745
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:57,340
... hydro landowners the whole raft of stakeholders as you

746
00:42:57,650 --> 00:43:00,430
enter into process like this and that helped us to

747
00:43:00,430 --> 00:43:02,840
come up to speed with what's changed ... since the

748
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,410
ten years that you naturally started planning for the Richmond

749
00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:08,820
hill centre and ... and then through phase two we

750
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,100
came up with a range of different white papers from

751
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:13,420
non background studies from urban strategies as well as all

752
00:43:13,420 --> 00:43:16,580
of our sub consultants as well and brought back information

753
00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:19,420
and a study intro kind of a kickoff envisioning events

754
00:43:19,420 --> 00:43:22,230
to the public ... in June of this year ...

755
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:24,700
which was a fantastic event which I'll touch on in

756
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,260
a couple of slides and we're here in phase three

757
00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:30,030
about halfway through and we're looking in this phase of

758
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:32,730
testing new concepts and designs and taking all of that

759
00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:35,200
information that we gathered from the stakeholders the public will

760
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,500
be here with you in the past and synthesizing those

761
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:42,500
findings into a draft principles and draft vision and starting

762
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:44,800
to work on one of the component parts to the

763
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,230
center what is that the new vision and plan for

764
00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:50,440
the center I will take this information ... a version

765
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,520
of what we're presenting to you today to the public

766
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,680
on October seventh and then go back and look at

767
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,710
it emerged emerging preferred option which we plan to bring

768
00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:00,700
back out to the public in the winter of twenty

769
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:03,990
twenty and following up phases four and five I was

770
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:09,750
draft recommendations and then the secondary plan itself

771
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:11,780
so I touched on the open house briefly ... and

772
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:13,720
this was an event at the end of June where

773
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,600
we had a fantastic turnout figures over two hundred people

774
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:19,710
that came out to hear about the center and I

775
00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:21,980
just wanted to emphasize that this was you know the

776
00:44:21,980 --> 00:44:25,180
beginning of our real public facing engagement ... part of

777
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:28,690
the process I mean gauge it with many people about

778
00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:31,460
their priorities for the center about their interests and their

779
00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:35,030
visions and opinions for the center which helped us ...

780
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:37,510
intern to find the draft vision and principles that will

781
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:41,870
bring forward to you today for discussion

782
00:44:41,870 --> 00:44:46,180
no ... this slide summarizes both have a high level

783
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:48,700
... pieces of information that we gathered not only from

784
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,230
the public but from stakeholders tack trying to be efficient

785
00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:53,490
aside time here's a lot of information on the slide

786
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,090
but what I wanted to kind of enhanced to you

787
00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,190
is those those ... those broad things that we heard

788
00:45:00,220 --> 00:45:03,280
that we've really taken on ... in our process and

789
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,430
I want to repeat some of those things we've already

790
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:08,720
talked about today which is holding this and that we

791
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,580
heard from yourselves from tack from the public for many

792
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:14,420
stakeholders but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity

793
00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:16,400
and we've really taken that to heart as we continue

794
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,280
to move the process ahead we've heard a lot about

795
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,430
this needs to be more than a place just about

796
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:24,250
transit needs to be a complete community a place where

797
00:45:24,250 --> 00:45:27,110
people are coming to work and play and ... engage

798
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,070
with with each other and it's also pleased to think

799
00:45:30,070 --> 00:45:33,700
big and really importantly a place where new ways of

800
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,970
doing things are going to be required and we've already

801
00:45:35,970 --> 00:45:37,690
heard that from Michael and we're gonna hear it a

802
00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:40,770
couple of times myself and Craig but this is this

803
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:43,810
is a great opportunity to break out of the traditional

804
00:45:43,810 --> 00:45:47,030
forms of development and start to think about not only

805
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:50,270
innovative ways of building you know

806
00:45:50,270 --> 00:45:53,520
the buildings themselves but the actual process the delivery the

807
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,690
implementation will require partnerships and creativity and we heard a

808
00:45:57,690 --> 00:46:01,450
lot of feedback ... around topics specific areas which are

809
00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:04,340
also important to us ... and have helped define the

810
00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:05,580
vision

811
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:07,050
we heard a lot about how people want to get

812
00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:09,410
around so first unheard about transit but we heard about

813
00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:11,520
walking with her about cycling of course we also heard

814
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,380
about cars so how can you design a place that

815
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:16,990
... can still accommodate vehicles but not be defined by

816
00:46:16,990 --> 00:46:18,050
them

817
00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:20,300
and we heard about what kind of uses people wanna

818
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:23,310
see we saw an emphasis on employment and really taking

819
00:46:23,310 --> 00:46:26,950
advantage of this critical place in the GTA to enhance

820
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:29,450
the employment offering in Richmond hill and that this should

821
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:32,350
also be a place for retail and entertainment are pleased

822
00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:35,420
with vibrancy for twenty four hour usage for living working

823
00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:36,970
and playing

824
00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:38,770
and we heard a lot about what buildings should be

825
00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:42,040
like and we heard about high quality design ... the

826
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,710
need for excellent open spaces the need for transition into

827
00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:48,540
existing communities in terms of built form and how do

828
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:51,480
you accommodate new growths in a way that ... ...

829
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,900
fits with and satisfies the existing community that surrounded

830
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:59,310
we heard about accommodating buildings to design families ... site

831
00:46:59,310 --> 00:47:01,980
to support families and seniors and a range of different

832
00:47:02,010 --> 00:47:04,980
types of users so that speaks to amenities which leads

833
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:06,920
into the next topic Kerry were heard a lot about

834
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,420
which is open space and I think Michael's quite right

835
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,190
to say that open space and how you define those

836
00:47:12,190 --> 00:47:15,210
open spaces is really at the forefront of thinking about

837
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:17,600
how these new urban communities function in a way that

838
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,620
can support people and become places where people love to

839
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:24,420
be so those spaces that are both urban and provide

840
00:47:24,450 --> 00:47:28,720
opportunities for ... and enriched enlivened environment but also relaxing

841
00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:31,890
nature focused environment as well so that that person should

842
00:47:31,890 --> 00:47:34,300
really contribute to the identity of this place and be

843
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:38,620
at the center of its character

844
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:41,130
so with all of that information that we gathered ...

845
00:47:41,130 --> 00:47:44,340
we've come up with a draft vision that which I

846
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:48,160
will describe ... and emphasizing the draft piece of this

847
00:47:48,340 --> 00:47:50,220
and the graphics on the side I think it's really

848
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:54,720
critical ... the position of Richmond hill centre its geographic

849
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,730
position in the region is its distinguishing

850
00:47:58,730 --> 00:48:01,520
character the the fact that it is at the center

851
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,590
of the centers and to put it in a way

852
00:48:03,590 --> 00:48:06,380
that Craig described it in conversation to me there's a

853
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:10,160
constellation of stars and yours shines the brightest it is

854
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:12,550
I am in a relationship to the under other centers

855
00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:15,160
that is unparalleled with the other girl centers in the

856
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,920
region not only do you have the north south access

857
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,990
down to downtown Toronto but the future of the GTA

858
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:23,420
is growth will be on the East West access as

859
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:26,480
we're looking at thirty years forty years in the future

860
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:29,390
it's going to be that second ... arc of growth

861
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:32,460
it's going to be so critical so in terms of

862
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:34,220
language you know we're looking at this being a new

863
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:37,470
urban community M. and employment health plan point in having

864
00:48:37,470 --> 00:48:39,900
a focus ... of ... at the new wave of

865
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:43,380
growth in the GTA walkable lively urban environments that can

866
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:48,020
draw people to work live and play

867
00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:50,830
so from a vision that we distill some principles and

868
00:48:50,830 --> 00:48:53,640
you're all structuring elements that we use in a secondary

869
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,850
plan process to help us ... kind of communicate with

870
00:48:56,850 --> 00:49:00,460
stakeholders in the community that we're establishing a framework that

871
00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:03,520
will then the informer ideas and be the backbone to

872
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,950
any of the options that we come forward with so

873
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:09,140
they're six principles ... that we have drafted thus far

874
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,070
and I'll take you through them one by one and

875
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:14,860
hit on some of the highlights the first principles that

876
00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:17,020
there should be a place for people to work live

877
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:19,460
and have fun and I think this really emphasizes what

878
00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:21,900
we've heard that this should be a place that's not

879
00:49:21,940 --> 00:49:24,780
just a transit hub not just a high density residential

880
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:27,230
neighborhood he needs to play to be a place that's

881
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:30,180
transit integrated that's vibrant that has a range of different

882
00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:34,310
job opportunities residential opportunities and diversity in terms of its

883
00:49:34,310 --> 00:49:36,870
use ... this is spoken to in the policy direction

884
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:39,510
as well but we really wanted to emphasize that that

885
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:42,070
that that the ... to the character of the place

886
00:49:42,070 --> 00:49:45,430
needs to be mixed at its heart

887
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:47,850
the second principle has to do with high quality design

888
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:51,080
and ... we heard a lot from people about how

889
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,840
the police would feel I think there's a real strong

890
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,860
desire for high quality architecture not just in terms of

891
00:49:56,860 --> 00:50:00,130
looking at beautiful buildings but how did those buildings create

892
00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:03,510
places and that's really what can drive and attracts people

893
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:05,590
to live here and to work here is that sense

894
00:50:05,620 --> 00:50:07,830
of a place that when you come to Richmond hill

895
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,330
centre in your mind's eye you shouldn't see a subway

896
00:50:10,330 --> 00:50:13,070
station or go station or bus terminal you should see

897
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:16,520
the place beyond that so ... the principle here is

898
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,940
around placemaking and high quality design ... and around that

899
00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:21,990
is efficient use of land so with all the transit

900
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:24,790
infrastructure that's coming along with this place how can we

901
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,150
ensure that high quality design and great placemaking occurs in

902
00:50:29,150 --> 00:50:32,060
amongst the kind of heavy infrastructure that's necessary in terms

903
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:34,800
of bus terminal to rail or subway infrastructure whatever it

904
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,150
may be high quality design needs to be at the

905
00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:39,850
forefront

906
00:50:39,850 --> 00:50:42,370
the third principle is about inclusivity and that it should

907
00:50:42,370 --> 00:50:44,690
be a place to accommodate all people we've talked a

908
00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:47,640
little bit about schools are ready today and that said

909
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,670
the principle here should be that Richmond hill should be

910
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:52,590
desirable inclusive for people of all ages and have the

911
00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:55,450
opportunity to accommodate those folks in a range of different

912
00:50:55,450 --> 00:50:58,830
households and have a community services to serve all of

913
00:50:58,830 --> 00:51:01,660
those different populations and that will require some of the

914
00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:06,970
creative thinking and that we've talked about already

915
00:51:06,970 --> 00:51:09,660
the fourth principle is around movement so it should be

916
00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,140
a place for people to walk bike and take transit

917
00:51:12,510 --> 00:51:15,920
... right and emphasize the pedestrian oriented nature of urban

918
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,990
center with the finest grains network of streets Sir creating

919
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:22,750
a network that not only defines building blocks but also

920
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:25,770
how people move around and that it can now integrate

921
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:29,990
with its existing surroundings transit facilities and that seamless integration

922
00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:34,110
of development with transit and ... and recognition that we

923
00:51:34,110 --> 00:51:36,130
need to be able to accommodate cars but not in

924
00:51:36,130 --> 00:51:39,240
a way that's going to define or ... ... disrupt

925
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:43,140
the quality of overall place

926
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:46,290
the fifths principle is about sustainability I mean in this

927
00:51:46,290 --> 00:51:49,120
day and age ... climate change discussions around climate change

928
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,090
a very active in real and not as we know

929
00:51:52,090 --> 00:51:56,040
that cities will continue to grow and intensify sustainable environmentally

930
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,950
responsible growth needs to be at the forefront of how

931
00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:01,330
we define our places I need to be part of

932
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:04,870
the expectations around how growth occurs so that the development

933
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:08,220
of the center will take a comprehensive approach to sustainability

934
00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:10,830
not just in terms of building systems but looking at

935
00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:14,310
the master planned scale as well so infrastructure planning urban

936
00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:17,730
design architecture open space design there's lots of different ways

937
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:20,050
to get it sustainability we want to make sure that's

938
00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:24,530
embedded in the plan as it's created

939
00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:28,000
and finally ... the six principal is around innovation and

940
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,090
technology and has two elements to it ... I think

941
00:52:31,090 --> 00:52:33,990
there's a lot of current conversations around smart technology smart

942
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:37,090
cities I want regional center to be future focused and

943
00:52:37,090 --> 00:52:41,290
prepared for how technology makes me ... ... influence how

944
00:52:41,290 --> 00:52:43,910
our cities are evolving and want to be able to

945
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:48,370
leverage that and ... health creator so ... enable the

946
00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:51,530
city to ... adapts to technology as advanced as it

947
00:52:51,530 --> 00:52:54,250
advances but the piece of this principle that I think

948
00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:56,880
is even more important is that innovation in terms of

949
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,430
decision making in terms of implementation in terms of collaboration

950
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,200
so requiring innovation in our thinking about how we deliver

951
00:53:04,330 --> 00:53:07,730
... urban planning as we're thinking about it here today

952
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,880
and I think it's this kind of collaboration and this

953
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,170
kind of ... ... communication with all the stakeholders involved

954
00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:18,890
to create this place that can make us the international

955
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:21,590
showpiece just as Michael's giving us an example of battery

956
00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:24,810
Park City should not thirty years from now someone come

957
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:27,040
to you and say how did you do it so

958
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,970
I think its innovation that's going to be at the

959
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:34,410
heart of making that possible

960
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:36,820
right thanks a lot Lee ... what I'm gonna do

961
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:39,730
is I think as we mentioned word of point in

962
00:53:39,730 --> 00:53:42,050
the process right now where we're developing a series of

963
00:53:42,050 --> 00:53:44,700
different options and ideas and really trying to refine those

964
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:47,260
and understand how they land ... in the in the

965
00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:50,880
place I'm gonna talk about ten key ideas and he

966
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,530
certainly aren't all of them ... for the center a

967
00:53:53,530 --> 00:53:56,980
number of which flow either you are captured directly within

968
00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:59,900
the principles are or flow right out of the principals

969
00:53:59,930 --> 00:54:04,910
at it leaves just described

970
00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:06,720
so the first and I think perhaps one of the

971
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,280
most fundamental that key ideas here is really making sure

972
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,560
that this place develops as an important place of employment

973
00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:16,420
one of the things we heard is that people don't

974
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:18,970
want this just to be another sort of high density

975
00:54:18,970 --> 00:54:21,480
enclave at the end of the subway line where people

976
00:54:21,710 --> 00:54:23,430
in the morning they get on the subway they go

977
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:27,900
back down it is so strategically positioned within the greater

978
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:30,930
Toronto area that this actually should be a place where

979
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:34,860
we are focusing our employment and you know in discussions

980
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:36,770
people refer to this as well could this be the

981
00:54:36,770 --> 00:54:39,840
Canary Wharf and what Canary Wharf was to city ...

982
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,500
in London the way it helped to sort of provide

983
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:46,120
a different type of employment offer an accommodation and shift

984
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,610
the gravity ... within ... the greater London area a

985
00:54:49,610 --> 00:54:53,150
terms of employment ... I think if you think about

986
00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:55,760
this in terms of closer to home and what you

987
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,060
see coming forward on east harbor this is a project

988
00:54:58,060 --> 00:55:01,160
we're currently involved with in downtown Toronto which is looking

989
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,350
at somewhere around ten million square feet of new office

990
00:55:04,350 --> 00:55:07,910
and retail development it has a sort of similar characteristics

991
00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:11,010
that's a development that is able to take place because

992
00:55:11,010 --> 00:55:14,460
of the transit investment which is is converging there if

993
00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:17,510
I was to say one thing about that project in

994
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:20,610
comparison to Richmond hill is it that project is taking

995
00:55:20,610 --> 00:55:23,940
place in employment area and therefore it is strictly in

996
00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:27,860
employment place and I think Richmond hill has the ability

997
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:30,250
to sort of went out that by being actually a

998
00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:34,230
truly mixed use integrated residential and employment place and we

999
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:37,830
know from the geography of employment across the greater Toronto

1000
00:55:37,830 --> 00:55:42,230
area and beyond the top ten players and employees are

1001
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:46,220
actually grabbing gravitating to those places that aren't just solely

1002
00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:49,320
employment but actually provide that critical mix of living and

1003
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,140
working in entertainment ... and so I think this is

1004
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:55,650
a real strategic advantage for research center

1005
00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:58,070
and I can just do it from here

1006
00:55:58,070 --> 00:56:02,190
... as we mentioned we've heard really strongly that this

1007
00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:05,540
place just shouldn't be recognized as being a transit hub

1008
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:08,880
it should be recognized as being a great place that

1009
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,840
yes happens to be supported by excellent transit connectivity and

1010
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,520
doing so means that we need to set out how

1011
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,910
we integrate new development and a mix of uses a

1012
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:23,130
very carefully with transit that is a tricky thing to

1013
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:25,930
do I won't kid you about it but it's certainly

1014
00:56:25,930 --> 00:56:28,650
possible and I think there's great examples of it what

1015
00:56:28,650 --> 00:56:31,110
you see on your screens here this is a CIBC

1016
00:56:31,110 --> 00:56:34,000
square it's a project that we've been involved with from

1017
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,320
the start and what was really important or interesting to

1018
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,910
note about it is there's a fourteen day bus terminal

1019
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,830
integrated into the base of that that building and that

1020
00:56:42,830 --> 00:56:45,750
building plugs into Union Station around it and development to

1021
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:47,920
the north and it actually has a a park that

1022
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,630
spans over the rail corridor on it ... which I'll

1023
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:52,760
get to in a little bit to get that to

1024
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,640
work it took the agency Metrolinx and Ivanho Cambridge the

1025
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,540
developer to really work together on designing that piece of

1026
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:03,950
infrastructure to make sure it can support that development and

1027
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:05,880
it took that commitment and what that says is we

1028
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,290
have to keep our eye on these concepts as they

1029
00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:11,150
come forward for the subway in the transit terminal and

1030
00:57:11,150 --> 00:57:13,960
really sort of have a keen focus on making sure

1031
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,930
that they're designed in a way that help to support

1032
00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:21,000
development over the longer term

1033
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,400
... Michael touched on the hydro corridor I think we've

1034
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,950
heard a lot about the hydro corridor if we are

1035
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:30,310
actually thinking long term about this I think most people

1036
00:57:30,310 --> 00:57:32,990
would agree it's not a desirable condition to have a

1037
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:37,440
hydro corridor running along the south side of the center

1038
00:57:37,810 --> 00:57:40,870
... we have been in discussions with hydro to try

1039
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:43,220
to figure out what is and isn't possible I think

1040
00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:47,360
it's fair to say that whatever happens will be expensive

1041
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:50,690
and sort of complicated but it does appear that there

1042
00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:53,890
may be the ability to look at bearing the hydro

1043
00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:57,470
corridor and in doing so actually free up a chunk

1044
00:57:57,470 --> 00:58:00,630
of land on the south side of garden Avenue which

1045
00:58:00,630 --> 00:58:04,320
had the potential for new development basically to complete that

1046
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760
street and have a street with buildings on both side

1047
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,270
of it I think that's where we want to go

1048
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:10,860
to quite a bit of a complete center what's important

1049
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:12,940
at this stage of the game is to signal our

1050
00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:15,880
intent and desire to do that so that as the

1051
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,850
market changes as opportunities come that that becomes a possibility

1052
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,770
I think the other thing is to think about what

1053
00:58:22,770 --> 00:58:26,040
you do with the land beneath those buried hydro cables

1054
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,440
because we know we can't do much with it is

1055
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,520
the potential to create a greenway that stretches from young

1056
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,900
street in the west in the storm water management pond

1057
00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:37,400
all the way east of Bayview and the ravine court

1058
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,340
or they are in the network of trails and parks

1059
00:58:39,340 --> 00:58:41,540
that are connected to it to actually create a much

1060
00:58:41,540 --> 00:58:44,900
larger ... civic open space gesture there I think those

1061
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:46,640
are some of the ideas that were starting to think

1062
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,810
about

1063
00:58:50,810 --> 00:58:54,580
we heard a lot about the importance of design excellence

1064
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,880
and thinking very strategically about how you deal with high

1065
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,340
density residential development which is ringed for the most part

1066
00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:06,130
in stable low rise residential neighborhoods one of the challenges

1067
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:09,480
of developing a new center like this is actually making

1068
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,500
it not look like a single project where you have

1069
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:15,960
a lot of buildings that look very similar ... in

1070
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,670
characteristics so we need to be building and you are

1071
00:59:18,670 --> 00:59:22,320
planning ways to support design innovation so that what you

1072
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,910
get are a series of very different distinct but also

1073
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:29,430
high quality buildings that together help to create the place

1074
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:31,020
I think that's what we like about some of our

1075
00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:33,490
best cities is that variety that exists there they don't

1076
00:59:33,490 --> 00:59:38,270
look like a a mega project in there this example

1077
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:40,650
which you see here this is a project working on

1078
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:44,000
... it's the redevelopment of the Armistead site located in

1079
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,440
the annex neighbourhood in Toronto it's called Mirvish village and

1080
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,700
the approach there has really to be much more flexible

1081
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:54,070
about the design so that you have buildings that have

1082
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,200
a variety of very characteristic at the street level they're

1083
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,750
much more granular so you'll see on the picture here

1084
01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:03,890
there's pedestrian mews and walkways that break up the block

1085
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,780
there's new classes in open spaces with that are in

1086
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:10,070
there and I think very important if you're familiar with

1087
01:00:10,070 --> 01:00:12,990
the annex in Toronto you'll know that it's it's quite

1088
01:00:12,990 --> 01:00:17,300
a stable neighborhood this development has carefully thought about massing

1089
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:20,410
and how it steps itself down to the neighborhood so

1090
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,670
it's not felt as as as it's not felt as

1091
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:27,040
seven as at any position on the neighborhood but actually

1092
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,820
in new assets what we want to do is we

1093
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:32,750
want to position the center so that people living in

1094
01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:35,450
those houses actually view it as an extension of their

1095
01:00:35,450 --> 01:00:38,650
neighborhoods and something that they can take advantage of it

1096
01:00:38,650 --> 01:00:41,440
could also provide the opportunity for people as they you

1097
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,170
know get older they want to move or or ...

1098
01:00:44,170 --> 01:00:47,730
you know downsized they have a place right next door

1099
01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:50,110
not only has all those amenities but for the ability

1100
01:00:50,110 --> 01:00:51,500
for them to do that so we got to make

1101
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:56,960
that connection between ... between the two

1102
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,970
what struck me perhaps the most about this public open

1103
01:01:00,970 --> 01:01:03,560
house that he attended where the number of people that

1104
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,530
came up and said we've no matter what we do

1105
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,180
this has to be an inclusive place I've got ...

1106
01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:13,800
sons or daughters who are just graduating university and they

1107
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,730
can't afford a place to live I'm living in a

1108
01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:19,390
three thousand square foot home and where am I going

1109
01:01:19,390 --> 01:01:22,210
to go when we no longer want to maintain this

1110
01:01:22,210 --> 01:01:23,740
place how are we going to be able to live

1111
01:01:23,740 --> 01:01:26,180
in a place can we stay in our community and

1112
01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:29,310
can Richmond hill centre P. the vehicle to enable us

1113
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:32,330
to to do that ... so these are really important

1114
01:01:32,330 --> 01:01:35,260
principles we want to embed and we've been working with

1115
01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:37,920
the city of Toronto on developing a guideline it's called

1116
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,610
growing up at it's about growing families in high density

1117
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:45,100
neighborhoods and what we've learned through that exercise is that

1118
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,860
a lot of the principles that make good family high

1119
01:01:47,860 --> 01:01:51,170
density housing which relate to the design of the unit

1120
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,740
the design of the buildings and design of the neighborhood

1121
01:01:53,950 --> 01:01:57,370
are also the same sorts of principles that are important

1122
01:01:57,370 --> 01:02:01,220
to support people and their elderly and there's the same

1123
01:02:01,220 --> 01:02:04,210
sort of ... synergy between those two so if we

1124
01:02:04,210 --> 01:02:07,090
just think carefully about how we designed this place we

1125
01:02:07,090 --> 01:02:09,680
think we can set it up to ... embed the

1126
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,750
principles in the planning to help make sure that what

1127
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:14,730
comes forward is supportive of those obviously we have to

1128
01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:17,840
think about affordable housing and how that gets embedded in

1129
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,540
there as well so that people of all ages all

1130
01:02:20,540 --> 01:02:26,990
incomes have the ability to sort of living here

1131
01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:29,780
one of the things that I think we've really forgotten

1132
01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:33,330
how to do well in North America is great truly

1133
01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:38,640
walkable high density places I think it's that characteristic in

1134
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,790
a lot of the older cities that that we really

1135
01:02:40,790 --> 01:02:43,530
tend to gravitate to and for a lot of reasons

1136
01:02:43,530 --> 01:02:47,470
and including quite frankly economic reasons it's very difficult to

1137
01:02:47,470 --> 01:02:51,150
achieve that ... in the north American context and this

1138
01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:53,360
is something that certainly on our minds because we certainly

1139
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,310
heard a lot about it ... it's not to say

1140
01:02:56,310 --> 01:02:59,080
it's it's impossible though and the example that you have

1141
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,390
on your screen is is one approach that that we

1142
01:03:01,390 --> 01:03:04,300
could actually look at this is the well in Toronto

1143
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:06,830
and it's a it's a mega project it's over a

1144
01:03:06,830 --> 01:03:09,920
million some odd square feet of retail office and residential

1145
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,820
development but when we did the master plan for this

1146
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,310
the approach taken was to actually take this big development

1147
01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:18,380
and break it up so you see there's a bunch

1148
01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:23,010
of pedestrian connections there's laneways muses interior to this there's

1149
01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:25,950
a gallery ... that connects through it and what that

1150
01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:28,270
does is it has the effect of taking a larger

1151
01:03:28,270 --> 01:03:30,570
block which is a bit more economic and efficient for

1152
01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:33,240
the developer and breaking it up so that for the

1153
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,780
pedestrian on the street they actually view it as a

1154
01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:40,620
series of much smaller developments interestingly though I need this

1155
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:44,510
project is a single level her single grade actually multiple

1156
01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:47,830
grades but they're all connected below grade so you have

1157
01:03:47,830 --> 01:03:50,370
your servicing your parking and all the stuff that works

1158
01:03:50,370 --> 01:03:54,460
together that's really efficient from a developer's perspective but again

1159
01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:56,880
you're able to do that while achieving what we actually

1160
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,140
want to achieve at grade which is a more fine

1161
01:03:59,140 --> 01:04:04,720
grained pedestrian oriented environment

1162
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,180
we heard a lot about the storm water management pond

1163
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,740
this is a large pond it's at the gateway to

1164
01:04:09,740 --> 01:04:13,790
the center it occupies a significant piece of geography and

1165
01:04:13,790 --> 01:04:15,910
I think you know as we've been digging into this

1166
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:18,700
it's it's fair to say that doing much with it

1167
01:04:18,860 --> 01:04:22,480
it would be very very complicated there are hydro corridors

1168
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,500
that run over it there is a fortune future for

1169
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:28,120
seven transit way which is going to sort of cut

1170
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,600
through it and we've discovered that if you touch the

1171
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,080
pond you actually have to put it back in a

1172
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,290
if you do a significant changes to it you have

1173
01:04:35,290 --> 01:04:37,600
to put it back in a bigger way ... and

1174
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,480
so all of that is challenging but that doesn't mean

1175
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,560
we can't think creatively about how this can be used

1176
01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:46,280
as an important asset for Richmond hill center and I

1177
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,790
think there's a great example of this ... on your

1178
01:04:48,790 --> 01:04:52,530
screens here and this is from the Alicante Spain

1179
01:04:52,530 --> 01:04:55,310
this what you're looking at here is actually a storm

1180
01:04:55,310 --> 01:04:58,040
water management pond it's also designed to be a park

1181
01:04:58,620 --> 01:05:02,400
this part of Spain they get significant rainfalls and what

1182
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,840
happens is when when that occurs they get tremendous flooding

1183
01:05:06,210 --> 01:05:08,400
this whole place has been designed to flood right up

1184
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,930
to the top of it and then as the water

1185
01:05:10,930 --> 01:05:14,750
recedes it becomes a park again isn't there an opportunity

1186
01:05:14,750 --> 01:05:16,820
to take a look at the storm water management pond

1187
01:05:16,820 --> 01:05:18,810
which we know is you know a bit of a

1188
01:05:18,810 --> 01:05:21,940
challenging piece to deal with in other terms but actually

1189
01:05:21,940 --> 01:05:25,010
transform it into more than a point but actually amenity

1190
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,700
for the community something that in the fullness of time

1191
01:05:27,930 --> 01:05:31,300
could connect to perhaps that hydro corridor green way link

1192
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:34,180
back to the river and valley system and create something

1193
01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:37,060
which is much bigger in terms of the asset and

1194
01:05:37,060 --> 01:05:40,980
amenity it provides for that community

1195
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:44,910
we talked about being forward looking at and thinking about

1196
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,910
that changes that are taking place at one of the

1197
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:50,130
key ways of doing that is also thinking about how

1198
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:53,030
buildings adapt you know when I lived in London we

1199
01:05:53,030 --> 01:05:56,640
lived in a place called Bloomsbury and that place where

1200
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,380
I lived in at one point in time was a

1201
01:05:58,380 --> 01:06:02,270
house then it got converted to an office development and

1202
01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:05,220
then it got converted into a series of flats the

1203
01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:08,440
design of the building enabled it to constantly change and

1204
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,040
adapt over hundreds of years and I think we need

1205
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,780
to be thinking about that in Richmond hill centre one

1206
01:06:13,780 --> 01:06:16,430
of the biggest changes that's actually on our doorstep is

1207
01:06:16,430 --> 01:06:19,670
this transition from vehicles that are driven by single drivers

1208
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,740
to a more thana miss vehicle and we know from

1209
01:06:23,950 --> 01:06:26,180
certainly the work that we've been doing with MTO looking

1210
01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:28,610
at this issue ... that there's a number of ways

1211
01:06:28,610 --> 01:06:31,300
that that that could that could play out one of

1212
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:34,860
which is we need less cars and what we don't

1213
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:37,720
want to be doing is developing lots of parking structures

1214
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,810
are underground parking that twenty years down the road six

1215
01:06:41,810 --> 01:06:44,230
they're empty and we have no way of re purposing

1216
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:46,130
those so I think this is a great example for

1217
01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:48,760
Miami it was on one of the earlier slides it's

1218
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,350
a parking deck that has been designed in check intentionally

1219
01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:55,850
to be converted over time to support other sorts of

1220
01:06:55,850 --> 01:06:58,910
uses again it's those type of principles and thinking that

1221
01:06:58,910 --> 01:07:00,510
we can start to a bed in the planning for

1222
01:07:00,510 --> 01:07:03,640
this so that we have a much more flexible buildings

1223
01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:05,930
going forward

1224
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:09,260
thinking about integration of high tech and smart technologies is

1225
01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:11,850
also a top of mind ... on a lot of

1226
01:07:11,850 --> 01:07:15,350
people's minds these days ... I know we've been talking

1227
01:07:15,350 --> 01:07:19,120
a lot during the sidewalk labs and in downtown Toronto

1228
01:07:19,450 --> 01:07:23,360
... and really what people are looking for is how

1229
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,690
can you later on technology in a way that makes

1230
01:07:25,690 --> 01:07:28,560
people's lives easier and helps to sort of make the

1231
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,390
city a function better first and foremost I would say

1232
01:07:32,420 --> 01:07:35,910
and we've certainly learned this on sidewalk focus on the

1233
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:39,880
creation of great places then think about how technology can

1234
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,970
lay and former top of that ... that sort of

1235
01:07:43,970 --> 01:07:47,500
innovation can also apply to how we deliver services and

1236
01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:50,460
so often when we design our cities we designed them

1237
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:53,500
for the smallest fire truck that you have for the

1238
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:55,740
smallest garbage truck that you had and that means we

1239
01:07:55,740 --> 01:07:59,030
have streets that are oversized ... here's a great example

1240
01:07:59,030 --> 01:08:02,340
from Stockholm ... this is the vacuum waste systems updating

1241
01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:04,750
to graded through much of their city actually too much

1242
01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:07,450
of the urban centers in Sweden to be honest ...

1243
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,090
and what you do is you put your garbage in

1244
01:08:10,090 --> 01:08:13,880
a you know one of these vacuum wastes ... tubes

1245
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,800
they get sucked to a combined heat and power plant

1246
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:21,420
they get burned it's extremely clean at the result is

1247
01:08:21,450 --> 01:08:23,940
at an inert material that they put back in the

1248
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:27,520
roads the heat from that process goes back to the

1249
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,550
community to keep the houses and the electricity generated through

1250
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:33,790
that provides those houses ... ... with that with clean

1251
01:08:33,790 --> 01:08:37,430
electricity it's a sustainable thing to do it means that

1252
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:40,360
their cities are more compact you don't have garbage put

1253
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,990
out on the streets every single night you don't have

1254
01:08:42,990 --> 01:08:47,470
garbage trucks rumbling down the streets and SO thinking carefully

1255
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:51,050
again about how we deliver services in here and what

1256
01:08:51,050 --> 01:08:53,220
the potential might be is also something we're trying to

1257
01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:56,460
abandon this I know inside what we're looking at ...

1258
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,940
below grade at conveyor belts to deliver packages because we

1259
01:08:59,940 --> 01:09:02,380
all on Amazon now and we want that package tomorrow

1260
01:09:02,380 --> 01:09:06,410
and that's for the trucks on the road

1261
01:09:06,410 --> 01:09:08,230
this is the last big idea I want to talk

1262
01:09:08,230 --> 01:09:11,290
about I think it's the first idea that Michael touched

1263
01:09:11,290 --> 01:09:14,830
upon in his presentation ... which is the notion of

1264
01:09:14,860 --> 01:09:17,770
using the space above the rail corridor for new development

1265
01:09:17,890 --> 01:09:21,310
and open space ... the girl quarters a great thing

1266
01:09:21,650 --> 01:09:24,180
it's a tremendous asset it connects you to the rest

1267
01:09:24,180 --> 01:09:26,920
of the region but in the fullness of time what

1268
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,790
it's going to mean is you have two sides of

1269
01:09:28,790 --> 01:09:31,970
Richmond hill centre and that's probably not where you want

1270
01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:34,920
to be over the long term and we know from

1271
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,810
some of the work that we've been doing with Realtek

1272
01:09:36,810 --> 01:09:39,910
parking trauma where these two projects here union part drawn

1273
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:42,660
CIBC square get what you need to be doing at

1274
01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:44,500
this stage of the game is putting in place the

1275
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:47,870
policy framework that starts to say what you want to

1276
01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:51,100
have happen over that rail corridor so that you're setting

1277
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:54,600
expectations it also means putting in place a framework to

1278
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,770
ensure that as bridging decking development

1279
01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:02,060
what have you happens over the corridor it happens in

1280
01:10:02,060 --> 01:10:06,060
a way that integrates into the places around you ...

1281
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:07,990
so again there's lots of ways that this could come

1282
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:11,400
forward it could be an open space it could conceivably

1283
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,580
be in open space was with a collection of sort

1284
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:16,050
of civic buildings in uses around there right at the

1285
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:20,480
heart of the century we need to define that now

1286
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:22,650
and we need to them in bed that and the

1287
01:10:22,650 --> 01:10:25,340
planning so you don't end up years down the road

1288
01:10:25,340 --> 01:10:26,930
getting in a little bit of a back and forth

1289
01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:29,530
with that with with C. N. ... Metrolinx of ever

1290
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:31,810
owns the sort of writes about their ... with what

1291
01:10:31,810 --> 01:10:34,230
that should actually be

1292
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:36,440
so those are the ten kind of key ideas that

1293
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:38,900
we wanted to present to you if there is a

1294
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:41,980
takeaway and and it's funny because of really echoing I

1295
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:45,120
think a bit what we heard in Michael's presentation that

1296
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,510
we want to get what you get from this is

1297
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:50,910
the notion of if you want a really bold and

1298
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:54,620
innovative center we actually have to think creatively about how

1299
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:57,700
we build it it means thinking differently about how we

1300
01:10:57,700 --> 01:11:02,320
deal with infrastructure like rail corridors hydro corridors stormwater management

1301
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,600
ponds thinking differently about how we integrate community facilities or

1302
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,560
design our buildings and and and deal with some of

1303
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,350
those issues or even thinking creatively about how we deal

1304
01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:16,200
with new technologies in Baghdad in and I think by

1305
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,410
doing that it will actually enable you to break out

1306
01:11:18,410 --> 01:11:20,310
of the mold of some of the other centers that

1307
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:23,450
were seen come forward at the moment can develop something

1308
01:11:23,450 --> 01:11:25,900
which is much more urban and I think much more

1309
01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:29,820
in keeping with the real significant ambitions we hear from

1310
01:11:29,820 --> 01:11:33,090
you and from everyone else ... that people have for

1311
01:11:33,090 --> 01:11:34,830
the center

1312
01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:38,240
in terms of next steps and what we'll be doing

1313
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,350
is we're gonna be having attack meeting later on this

1314
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:44,380
afternoon where we'll be going through these ideas in a

1315
01:11:44,380 --> 01:11:47,270
bit more sorry what kind of ... sorry it at

1316
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,950
that a technical advisory committee ... okay it was a

1317
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:56,430
big firm around here called tactical

1318
01:11:56,430 --> 01:11:57,850
make sure

1319
01:11:57,850 --> 01:12:05,110
right now to see how you're not owner

1320
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:07,390
you know and

1321
01:12:07,390 --> 01:12:10,770
with the technical advisory committee and so afternoon will be

1322
01:12:10,770 --> 01:12:13,910
going to these ideas in a bit more detail along

1323
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:17,050
with a number of other ideas as well ... on

1324
01:12:17,050 --> 01:12:19,390
those all of which is to sort of get feedback

1325
01:12:19,390 --> 01:12:22,150
and start to prepare for an open house which is

1326
01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:24,700
coming in about a week and a half ... which

1327
01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:27,890
were really looking forward to on the seventh we will

1328
01:12:27,890 --> 01:12:30,910
be taking the feedback from that ... and then really

1329
01:12:30,910 --> 01:12:34,320
starting to refine the draft vision and principles and taking

1330
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,570
these emerging ideas and starting to locate them in a

1331
01:12:37,570 --> 01:12:40,860
much more place specific way ... in terms of an

1332
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:44,130
emerging draft concept and which we then hope to bring

1333
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:46,750
out ... in the in the new year

1334
01:12:46,750 --> 01:12:48,730
so thank you very much for your time we really

1335
01:12:48,730 --> 01:12:51,000
appreciate that

1336
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,620
... it is on the top or second and that's

1337
01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:57,940
at seven or seven yeah

1338
01:12:57,940 --> 01:13:00,110
it's open second

1339
01:13:00,110 --> 01:13:02,010
77

1340
01:13:02,010 --> 01:13:05,980
yes number two yeah exactly ... so when we go

1341
01:13:05,980 --> 01:13:08,860
out into the community are these the type of ...

1342
01:13:09,210 --> 01:13:13,610
slides that they'll be seen ... hi there those principles

1343
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,090
... though those principles that brought those K. key ideas

1344
01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:19,830
forward I just wonder this is the type of thing

1345
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:22,990
yes is this going to be ... artists Rawson slides

1346
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:25,030
... but also I think we are going to be

1347
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:28,440
talking about some structuring ideas as well so you know

1348
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:33,330
for example advocate health care okay have fun with it

1349
01:13:33,330 --> 01:13:35,890
if this was the fourth of what people would be

1350
01:13:35,890 --> 01:13:38,700
seen that's important too things you gotta get it out

1351
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,800
there and second he explained you know what what we're

1352
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,430
trying to do and and even if you've done it

1353
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:46,610
well with the whole community building process and ... the

1354
01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:49,330
whole idea of ... is not a transit hub and

1355
01:13:49,330 --> 01:13:51,600
it needs to we need to be very flexible and

1356
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,900
many things a lot of the principles that you've talked

1357
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:56,350
about work I think we kind of covered the last

1358
01:13:56,350 --> 01:13:59,670
time what was the first time we were together ...

1359
01:13:59,670 --> 01:14:01,540
here you know to say this is what we are

1360
01:14:01,540 --> 01:14:05,170
looking to have ... and ... and seeing it more

1361
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:08,540
and more along with with Michael in the city of

1362
01:14:08,540 --> 01:14:12,290
... Markham and then other areas like that it's important

1363
01:14:12,290 --> 01:14:15,640
that we ... we keep moving you know what those

1364
01:14:15,770 --> 01:14:17,210
levels

1365
01:14:17,210 --> 01:14:20,120
that you just described it where we should be and

1366
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,320
so I think that's important

1367
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,580


1368
01:14:24,580 --> 01:14:26,970
questions comments

1369
01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:29,260
please read the

1370
01:14:29,260 --> 01:14:31,800
consists of it's

1371
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,910
thank you Mr mayor thank you for your for both

1372
01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:39,630
presentations Michael thank you very much ... also to Julie

1373
01:14:39,630 --> 01:14:42,480
and Craig greatly appreciate it and also to our staff

1374
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:46,460
I would think mita and her staff ... for meeting

1375
01:14:46,460 --> 01:14:49,460
with me and ... making sure that I understand what

1376
01:14:49,460 --> 01:14:52,580
was going to be presented here today it's was the

1377
01:14:52,580 --> 01:14:56,800
meeting we had was exceptional and ... ... I just

1378
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,180
wanted to mention that I truly truly appreciated the discussion

1379
01:15:00,330 --> 01:15:04,350
... by the way the hectic to a conversion is

1380
01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:07,350
a hundred and seventy three

1381
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:10,780
I thank god for Google eight hundred seventy three acres

1382
01:15:10,810 --> 01:15:17,570
thank you very much so it's bigger than mark comes

1383
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:19,830
just say I've got a lot of notes here and

1384
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:21,820
if I may to you Mr mayor I just want

1385
01:15:21,820 --> 01:15:24,970
to go through them ...

1386
01:15:24,970 --> 01:15:27,120
I I think it was Michael who said that the

1387
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,970
world has changed and indeed it has there's no question

1388
01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:32,600
even in the ten years since we last did out

1389
01:15:32,670 --> 01:15:36,590
our last official plan we see how everything has changed

1390
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:39,940
and how we have to change in how we think

1391
01:15:39,970 --> 01:15:43,320
and what we believe we need to see that change

1392
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,150
can be difficult and change has a long has a

1393
01:15:47,150 --> 01:15:48,790
long pathway

1394
01:15:48,790 --> 01:15:53,650
and ... our residents especially where I am concerned out

1395
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,600
the abutting residential side and what five to the west

1396
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:02,300
of young M. has my attention so ... I I

1397
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:05,390
I love the vision for this and Markham's version as

1398
01:16:05,390 --> 01:16:08,980
well remarkable ... but I do believe what we need

1399
01:16:08,980 --> 01:16:12,040
to make sure when I had this discussion with me

1400
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,370
as well what we need to ensure is that residents

1401
01:16:15,370 --> 01:16:20,740
are of food me within the belief structure we talking

1402
01:16:20,740 --> 01:16:25,430
about decades of development and something that is decades into

1403
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:29,480
the future so that's not so overwhelming to them ...

1404
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:32,690
and that's very important and as they begin to understand

1405
01:16:32,690 --> 01:16:35,320
more about where we are going and how we need

1406
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,840
to do it

1407
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,650
that pathway becomes a little bit easier for them to

1408
01:16:39,650 --> 01:16:42,650
grasp I am I love the idea of ... what

1409
01:16:42,650 --> 01:16:46,460
you were saying about him downsizing and your the one

1410
01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:50,120
slide here to me is the most important so how

1411
01:16:50,150 --> 01:16:55,480
M. D. the new development becomes an extension of what

1412
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,400
they're already is and it gives the error the existing

1413
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,930
residents who currently live in those established neighborhoods in ward

1414
01:17:02,930 --> 01:17:05,380
five on the west side I'm talking about that specifically

1415
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:10,540
the ability to also downsize and go and go perhaps

1416
01:17:10,540 --> 01:17:13,420
from where they are on that side to the other

1417
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:16,760
side of young as they as they grow in the

1418
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:21,180
families grow and their properties and have become more valuable

1419
01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:23,950
they can sell them they can then buy something has

1420
01:17:23,980 --> 01:17:29,000
it all M. it's it is a seamless integration and

1421
01:17:29,050 --> 01:17:32,920
I think that's very important and on our

1422
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,970
a residence how citizens need to understand that because otherwise

1423
01:17:35,970 --> 01:17:38,840
when you see as the mayor said holding up those

1424
01:17:39,130 --> 01:17:42,490
at the pictures of those extremely tall both buildings you

1425
01:17:42,490 --> 01:17:45,320
know you have visions of Blade Runner running three hole

1426
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:47,870
thanks for your mind and that's something we want to

1427
01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:52,310
try and not have so ... I I applaud the

1428
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:56,050
six principles and ... I I want to thank you

1429
01:17:56,050 --> 01:18:00,320
for your discussion and thought about the storm water management

1430
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,090
pond that exists say whether we spoke about that before

1431
01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:08,640
... I believe ... in a council west's ... wardrobe

1432
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,590
a pock is is very is significant if you haven't

1433
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:14,360
visited they you should look at it it's on ...

1434
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:19,540
male and young better start distant and middle and that

1435
01:18:19,870 --> 01:18:23,670
middle of the the rubble rubble pond was was re

1436
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,520
rehabilitated and restored it exact exactly what you were speaking

1437
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,060
about their that it became a park not just ...

1438
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:35,620
storm water management pond and the rules I would gene

1439
01:18:35,620 --> 01:18:38,220
hearing of course did an excellent excellent job is so

1440
01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:40,060
if you look at that you that's much smaller of

1441
01:18:40,060 --> 01:18:43,650
course but it that's a very very good example ...

1442
01:18:43,650 --> 01:18:47,450
I know I don't have much time here and

1443
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:51,040
while we well this is all very exciting and and

1444
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,290
it is but also must be tempered by the knowledge

1445
01:18:55,290 --> 01:18:59,800
that this is all very ... dependent on money I

1446
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,310
mean I just seeing dollar signs flashing in front of

1447
01:19:02,590 --> 01:19:05,200
my eyes and it's not only public money but it's

1448
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,710
private money as well ... and and really what you

1449
01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:10,990
what you see here is that we have the sky

1450
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:14,250
to develop because you had your so you weren't you

1451
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,200
we also maintained within the specific M. land area the

1452
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,370
only area we really have to develop this guy so

1453
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,980
... the future vision that I see here is also

1454
01:19:24,980 --> 01:19:26,870
very market driven

1455
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:30,360
so skews me it will depend on on on the

1456
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,660
market as to how these private land developers at begin

1457
01:19:34,660 --> 01:19:38,190
the begin this construction just to quickly finish hi I

1458
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:41,120
would like to see the connection between the north south

1459
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,170
connection between like staff and Richmond hill Santa week there

1460
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,640
are residents need to be able to move between each

1461
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,760
other very very friendly and ... I I we're going

1462
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,790
to have a challenge with the courtyard Musa walkability system

1463
01:19:56,790 --> 01:20:01,660
because that that was a that was a concept and

1464
01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:05,390
also part of official plan which was the then downtown

1465
01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:08,350
local and secondary plan which is now been repealed and

1466
01:20:08,350 --> 01:20:11,470
it was those chord charts and muse which created huge

1467
01:20:11,470 --> 01:20:14,620
consternation amongst the landowners so in order for us to

1468
01:20:14,620 --> 01:20:17,070
engage these landowners we need to make sure that they

1469
01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:19,650
are accepting of that as well so I know that

1470
01:20:19,650 --> 01:20:21,770
that'll come in and ... I just again thank you

1471
01:20:21,770 --> 01:20:24,800
very much and I look forward to the October seventh

1472
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,460
... public at public consultation I will be there because

1473
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:29,990
you can't

1474
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:33,140
thank you very much ... Mr mayor and thank you

1475
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,350
on a consultant on the Richmond hill centre presentation also

1476
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:41,170
Michael always good to know what our neighbors are doing

1477
01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:44,800
all we will be doing ... I asked for to

1478
01:20:44,830 --> 01:20:48,990
have faith showing off the boundary because that what helps

1479
01:20:49,480 --> 01:20:52,700
because opposing earlier I kind of searching for it but

1480
01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:54,550
I don't see it here but I know where it

1481
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:58,800
is but I think it's helpful all even though that

1482
01:20:58,990 --> 01:21:02,980
... we all embarking on quite honestly very exciting you

1483
01:21:02,980 --> 01:21:05,730
know like this I just when I'm looking at it

1484
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:11,770
... walk before the presentation this is using ... ...

1485
01:21:11,770 --> 01:21:14,960
the term here on parallel I mean for a long

1486
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,620
time not always ... believe strongly believe in that your

1487
01:21:18,620 --> 01:21:22,480
Sims or some evidence now this bridge menu center highway

1488
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:26,980
seven and young is truly awful seven strategic center of

1489
01:21:26,980 --> 01:21:28,480
GTA

1490
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:32,930
well young and highly seven is where your business begins

1491
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,650
I mean this is economic development new account of having

1492
01:21:37,650 --> 01:21:39,980
said that ...

1493
01:21:39,980 --> 01:21:45,160
I am very interested in particular one

1494
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,000
the first time I see the word entertainment bring brought

1495
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,250
in here I'm a strong believer that yes not a

1496
01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:55,970
good place to live and work

1497
01:21:55,970 --> 01:22:01,070
plate not meaning just packs you know ... ... although

1498
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,990
this is something we're talking about in fact I like

1499
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:07,720
to get through you this chair comments from ... the

1500
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,100
consultant ... it might not be the same but ...

1501
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:17,040
further around the Humber area where the new ... goal

1502
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,850
station if I understand correctly it's going to be totally

1503
01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:25,570
totally funded by private sector I believe there's a company

1504
01:22:25,570 --> 01:22:29,750
called live work learn and play sell through you I'm

1505
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:32,860
just wonder what kind of concept would you see in

1506
01:22:32,860 --> 01:22:36,150
terms of my call just manageable dollar sign or somehow

1507
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,710
I don't your appendix but having said that ... seeing

1508
01:22:40,710 --> 01:22:44,040
those things are happening around us how do you see

1509
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:49,710
that could play a part in truly developing strategic center

1510
01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:53,840
of the new GTA for the centrist a cop free

1511
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:56,650
check up with

1512
01:22:56,650 --> 01:22:58,810
K. ... yeah I think it just took a couple

1513
01:22:58,810 --> 01:23:01,030
thoughts on that we have been thinking very much about

1514
01:23:01,290 --> 01:23:04,030
the play side of it and and the enjoyment which

1515
01:23:04,030 --> 01:23:06,290
involves a number of things it's you know it's retail

1516
01:23:06,290 --> 01:23:09,780
it's entertainment its at restaurants all of that sort of

1517
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:12,610
works together and I think what we've been doing is

1518
01:23:12,610 --> 01:23:15,100
as we've been re looking at at some of the

1519
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:18,120
previous thinking has been to ask ourselves well have we

1520
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,660
just been spreading things to to ten ... and do

1521
01:23:22,660 --> 01:23:25,310
we need to be concentrating those activities a little bit

1522
01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:28,680
more thinking about how they relate to things like employment

1523
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,690
the transit hub young street and actually being a lot

1524
01:23:31,690 --> 01:23:34,820
more intentional and where we try to focus or encourage

1525
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,340
... that sort of activity do occur so that you

1526
01:23:37,340 --> 01:23:39,940
actually do have a critical mass which I think is

1527
01:23:39,940 --> 01:23:42,390
really important for that if you if you are familiar

1528
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:45,280
with the the foreplay and how they how they work

1529
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,470
what they do is they think about curating these types

1530
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:51,260
of things and it's about

1531
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:53,370
yeah well it's about making sure they all work together

1532
01:23:53,370 --> 01:23:56,570
right and so ... part of the thinking and certainly

1533
01:23:56,570 --> 01:24:00,010
discussion this afternoon is can we actually start to focus

1534
01:24:00,010 --> 01:24:02,840
that effort and we're in the correct spots to focus

1535
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,110
six so from a planning perspective we can build that

1536
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:07,800
into the the policy framework

1537
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,640
okay thank you talk about planning on I'd like to

1538
01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:15,770
I I really enjoy hearing that being converse being inclusive

1539
01:24:16,130 --> 01:24:20,860
and for all ages and concept is a popular ...

1540
01:24:20,970 --> 01:24:26,000
having solved up to look into ... developing office of

1541
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:32,400
vehicle developing age friendly community now it's better planning component

1542
01:24:32,860 --> 01:24:35,900
so this is a prime opportunity if I look at

1543
01:24:35,900 --> 01:24:38,860
this because we have a plan to get out so

1544
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,630
those kind of age friendly community concept from a planning

1545
01:24:43,630 --> 01:24:47,820
perspective maybe planning commissioner to strut around this is banned

1546
01:24:47,820 --> 01:24:52,930
pension of course of that could be integrated into this

1547
01:24:52,930 --> 01:24:55,450
design for everything so I just want to make a

1548
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:59,510
note of that Gration up with places all for now

1549
01:24:59,540 --> 01:25:04,360
I want to provide different feedback I caught up from

1550
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:08,520
what six residents and that's why I mentioned about the

1551
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,060
boundary two times the reason is that I have a

1552
01:25:13,450 --> 01:25:15,940
number of Russian came to me

1553
01:25:15,940 --> 01:25:17,900
they were concerned

1554
01:25:17,900 --> 01:25:23,110
that ... if the future of the world twenty second

1555
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:27,360
century look what that means some of the

1556
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:32,740
properties within this area they may be

1557
01:25:32,740 --> 01:25:36,240
expropriated of course the public stretch a bit too much

1558
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,530
for the imagination yes yes yes but but this I'm

1559
01:25:40,530 --> 01:25:43,120
just trying to saying it so that perhaps at the

1560
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,910
second open house this kind of concern could be hit

1561
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:50,740
head on no we're not doing this this is what

1562
01:25:50,740 --> 01:25:53,180
a boundary is consumed with our aim is for the

1563
01:25:53,180 --> 01:25:57,620
future not to try to take away the existing ...

1564
01:25:57,620 --> 01:26:00,690
property on Griffin the boundary I I'm just saying this

1565
01:26:00,690 --> 01:26:04,030
because this important message to say it an open house

1566
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:06,730
and I just want to bring to attention because I

1567
01:26:06,730 --> 01:26:09,930
don't seem to see you're capturing it maybe do some

1568
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,160
... and and I even have people come back they

1569
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,490
say could be ... how could they possibly they could

1570
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:20,100
develop it reflecting how place love children misconception but it

1571
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:24,290
to be ... touch on hello I like to focus

1572
01:26:24,290 --> 01:26:28,320
employment as someone who also believe that Richman is good

1573
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,530
place to do business this half all the all the

1574
01:26:31,530 --> 01:26:34,810
right markings the place to be the place for future

1575
01:26:34,810 --> 01:26:37,860
employment so we can attract more traffic when the subway

1576
01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:41,350
is here to go northbound to repair center so look

1577
01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:44,480
forward to the ... October seventh

1578
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,160
exciting thank you will bring the world to us thank

1579
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,110
you

1580
01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:50,780
thank you counselor to pop

1581
01:26:50,780 --> 01:26:53,320
American thank you Mr mayor I thank you for the

1582
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,180
presentation ... you know it's really good useful information that

1583
01:26:57,210 --> 01:26:59,880
as we go forward I I just just have a

1584
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,410
question about ...

1585
01:27:02,410 --> 01:27:06,720
the the the land ownership and ... Markham seem to

1586
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,530
have done a good job working together with the two

1587
01:27:09,530 --> 01:27:14,960
landowners in conjunction with the ... they're they're planning staff

1588
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,180
there were as the music and a plan there's a

1589
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:20,450
lot of cooperation and going to New York is evidence

1590
01:27:20,450 --> 01:27:23,330
that there was a real group working together now we

1591
01:27:23,330 --> 01:27:27,270
just have one or two landowners private land owners there

1592
01:27:27,550 --> 01:27:30,200
and then ... a lot of

1593
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:35,920
a lot of provincial agencies that the city itself

1594
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,490
is it

1595
01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:40,600
is it ... is it premature to to plan this

1596
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,550
all and then and then maybe the landowners are not

1597
01:27:44,180 --> 01:27:47,520
and not a not in sync with the timing this

1598
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,790
is not what they want to builder able to builder

1599
01:27:50,250 --> 01:27:53,000
this is that correct consideration I think our process of

1600
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,530
it with the landowners so we've spoken with all the

1601
01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:58,840
landowners through phase one stakeholder interviews but we've also invited

1602
01:27:58,990 --> 01:28:01,690
... I process with the DG group in particular so

1603
01:28:01,690 --> 01:28:05,230
major landowners Connor DG on the north side ... through

1604
01:28:05,230 --> 01:28:07,940
the process in each phase and ... ... working group

1605
01:28:07,940 --> 01:28:11,210
with them so that were in that reflecting our ideas

1606
01:28:11,210 --> 01:28:13,430
with them as we move forward in the process of

1607
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:15,540
getting their feedback and can trying to get on the

1608
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:17,800
same page about what the expectations are for the center

1609
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,980
where they're at in their process where we're going ...

1610
01:28:20,980 --> 01:28:22,690
and I think it's safe to say for as a

1611
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,150
master planning exercise piece of this the city has a

1612
01:28:25,150 --> 01:28:29,280
role to establish its expectations in consultation with the landowners

1613
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,910
and the public of course and when that development comes

1614
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:34,260
online is when that development comes online but we want

1615
01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:37,470
them to be ... we want our ideas and kind

1616
01:28:37,470 --> 01:28:40,230
of ... positioning about the vision in particular the principles

1617
01:28:40,230 --> 01:28:43,370
to to ... to reflect the ambitions of of all

1618
01:28:43,370 --> 01:28:45,900
the parties involved and I think our process has been

1619
01:28:45,900 --> 01:28:49,170
designed in order to deliver that

1620
01:28:49,170 --> 01:28:52,540
okay thank you this American is that ... to to

1621
01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:55,070
that and at the very outset we had a conversation

1622
01:28:55,070 --> 01:28:59,410
with the with especially DG ... the two to get

1623
01:28:59,410 --> 01:29:02,880
their thoughts and their this is the process that that

1624
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,240
they were encouraging so we're reflecting them there along on

1625
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,280
every step of the way we have meetings with them

1626
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,090
continuously and making sure that we reflect their ideas we

1627
01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:14,050
want to be in lockstep with them at the end

1628
01:29:14,050 --> 01:29:16,320
of the process we want to

1629
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,670
we'll be standing together arm in arm and saying this

1630
01:29:18,670 --> 01:29:20,800
is how we want our city to to develop so

1631
01:29:20,860 --> 01:29:23,240
that's our goal

1632
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,410
okay thank you

1633
01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:30,340
thank you Mr mayor thank you for your presentation ...

1634
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:32,430
to me this is not only how this is a

1635
01:29:32,430 --> 01:29:36,080
satellite city and ... and we have to have everything

1636
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,740
in their soul I I I love the five principles

1637
01:29:39,740 --> 01:29:43,210
especially we have to prepare for the climate change and

1638
01:29:43,210 --> 01:29:47,220
and technology so ... but looking at a slight I

1639
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:50,020
wasn't at the ... public consultation because a conflict with

1640
01:29:50,020 --> 01:29:52,890
mine at the fence so ... what's the age group

1641
01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:57,680
of of of of of the two hundred attendees

1642
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,570
it didn't take full demographic information over there but ...

1643
01:30:00,570 --> 01:30:03,290
I would say there's a big range ... I would

1644
01:30:03,290 --> 01:30:05,270
say there were some of the older members of your

1645
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:09,850
community as well as people with families ... singles younger

1646
01:30:09,850 --> 01:30:13,650
people students yeah there is a broad range of folks

1647
01:30:13,650 --> 01:30:15,620
every day yeah the point I'm trying to make is

1648
01:30:15,620 --> 01:30:18,170
... you know instead of having people come to the

1649
01:30:18,170 --> 01:30:20,750
open house can we reach out to you ... up

1650
01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:25,180
students because this is like a you know decades

1651
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:28,760
Bob long project and ... I don't know if I'm

1652
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,640
I can live long enough to see this happen honestly

1653
01:30:31,980 --> 01:30:33,800
and is it is for that **** is for the

1654
01:30:33,940 --> 01:30:36,000
kids and as for the ... the high school and

1655
01:30:36,030 --> 01:30:38,120
university students and they are going to use it you

1656
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,580
can enjoy this so I don't know if we can

1657
01:30:40,580 --> 01:30:45,210
actually you know promoted heavily on that age group so

1658
01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:48,090
that we can get some ideas from them I think

1659
01:30:48,090 --> 01:30:51,020
it would be more more more

1660
01:30:51,020 --> 01:30:55,300
constructive more useful and that just a suggestion ... yeah

1661
01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:58,040
and ... you know we all know how fast the

1662
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,570
world is changing and ... you know we don't know

1663
01:31:00,570 --> 01:31:03,720
what's life out to five G. ... probably by that

1664
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,400
time will be of having automated vehicles and ... and

1665
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,500
all kinds of stuff so well it is it is

1666
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:12,810
good to have some ideas here but ... I think

1667
01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:15,920
excuse ever changing so yeah that's all my comments thank

1668
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,220
you very much Mr mayor

1669
01:31:18,220 --> 01:31:22,780
thank you ... I've discovered question Sir for comments and

1670
01:31:22,780 --> 01:31:24,100
I would like to make two of them that was

1671
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:25,850
one of my questions where are the owners and all

1672
01:31:25,850 --> 01:31:29,060
this thank you very much and I think the ...

1673
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:32,350
internal to their part attack but they

1674
01:31:32,350 --> 01:31:34,050
your tax

1675
01:31:34,050 --> 01:31:38,410
of ... what's happening on a regular basis because I

1676
01:31:38,410 --> 01:31:41,220
think they are ...

1677
01:31:41,220 --> 01:31:44,190
we're we have one on one that's so this is

1678
01:31:44,190 --> 01:31:47,410
a ... it doesn't happen very often so it's not

1679
01:31:47,410 --> 01:31:48,870
make any

1680
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:51,330
actually what they're included with us and and make sure

1681
01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:53,690
with them that they have to understand where we want

1682
01:31:53,690 --> 01:31:54,980
to be too

1683
01:31:54,980 --> 01:31:57,720
... no one other thing last in the very beginning

1684
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,860
the boundaries of their show center on the services such

1685
01:32:00,860 --> 01:32:03,420
as the red cedar Avenue that is the right one

1686
01:32:03,980 --> 01:32:06,150
and that is a hole in the thinking hello hi

1687
01:32:06,150 --> 01:32:07,890
tech so I don't know that we're gonna be in

1688
01:32:08,170 --> 01:32:11,990
somebody's backyard but however we may ... the whole idea

1689
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:14,810
there though is the red cedar is going to be

1690
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:22,000
a ... exit he crescent except for the flagstaff into

1691
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,420
... up north

1692
01:32:24,420 --> 01:32:27,320
somewhere along the way if if we can have some

1693
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,290
discussion as to how we can take that traffic and

1694
01:32:30,420 --> 01:32:34,830
directed on highway seven as opposed to up to ...

1695
01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:38,180
I checked where as I always say there's going to

1696
01:32:38,180 --> 01:32:40,530
be two people upset the person who drove in there

1697
01:32:40,530 --> 01:32:43,490
from the playing staff person who lives there it's trying

1698
01:32:43,490 --> 01:32:46,100
to get out of their own community so I think

1699
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,990
we need to look at something like that you've got

1700
01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:50,180
a lot of areas that you've been working on and

1701
01:32:50,180 --> 01:32:53,740
the difference in the in the pond area things like

1702
01:32:53,740 --> 01:32:56,420
that so there's some really innovation think so I think

1703
01:32:56,420 --> 01:32:59,750
we should look at innovation thing somewhere on there somehow

1704
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,890
that's kind of a ball for three different levels of

1705
01:33:02,890 --> 01:33:06,540
government insurance however I just think that could be an

1706
01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:11,650
issue ... and then secondly ... is there any reason

1707
01:33:11,650 --> 01:33:13,080
why we don't

1708
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,730
go further east down to Bayview at all all that

1709
01:33:16,730 --> 01:33:19,680
property as I understand it is the same owner and

1710
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,280
it's all at this point I've commercial retail the whole

1711
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,560
bit so that may be something we don't know how

1712
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,950
we ended up stopping there yeah in the first place

1713
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:31,370
in the US the boundary of ... initially was to

1714
01:33:31,370 --> 01:33:33,770
find through the urban grow center boundaries that are defined

1715
01:33:33,770 --> 01:33:36,740
in the growth plan so back in two thousand and

1716
01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:39,220
eight that would have been when that fuzzy blob would

1717
01:33:39,220 --> 01:33:41,430
have first come out so that would have been the

1718
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:44,680
... the initial where the line was strong ... I

1719
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,390
know that this tattered city is undertaking its official plan

1720
01:33:47,390 --> 01:33:50,540
review process very soon and ... Bayview is a major

1721
01:33:50,540 --> 01:33:54,130
transit station area so there may be through that process

1722
01:33:54,340 --> 01:33:56,180
some changes in terms of the land use but it's

1723
01:33:56,180 --> 01:33:59,090
also something we're happy to speak with our ... client

1724
01:33:59,090 --> 01:34:02,230
team here and the policy colleagues to understand what's happening

1725
01:34:02,230 --> 01:34:04,970
with that process and if there would be other changes

1726
01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:07,710
that we could expect but ... our boundary ... initially

1727
01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:10,030
comes from the urban grow center boundary

1728
01:34:10,030 --> 01:34:13,240
which is changed every urban grow center battery has not

1729
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,910
changed in the updated growth plan

1730
01:34:16,910 --> 01:34:22,890
well it doesn't extend over to preview okay that's interesting

1731
01:34:22,890 --> 01:34:25,620
we have a chance to be different you know I

1732
01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:27,440
don't have a lot of people living in the area

1733
01:34:27,730 --> 01:34:30,050
and they keep moving along from us that's all I

1734
01:34:30,050 --> 01:34:32,110
look at the they would have a

1735
01:34:32,110 --> 01:34:36,040
to me we would have a linear area that will

1736
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:41,010
not impact neighborhood that's already there ... and then also

1737
01:34:41,010 --> 01:34:44,620
to allow us to create a nother East West ...

1738
01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:47,380
roadway of some to certain

1739
01:34:47,380 --> 01:34:49,800
how do you describe it that would get us get

1740
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,480
us all everywhere we want to be it's no question

1741
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:55,360
that it feels like a very logical extension

1742
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,960
they have those things once in a logical ones that

1743
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,570
never happened

1744
01:34:59,570 --> 01:35:01,670
since okay

1745
01:35:01,670 --> 01:35:05,330
all right thank you no other comments ... we receiving

1746
01:35:05,330 --> 01:35:09,020
this the presentations from the chance

1747
01:35:09,020 --> 01:35:13,110
second problem all those in favor of polls before we

1748
01:35:13,110 --> 01:35:16,440
do a bylaw to confirm at the very beginning of

1749
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:20,040
... the ... the meeting we we were asked about

1750
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,930
what happened so

1751
01:35:21,930 --> 01:35:24,090
putting in a

1752
01:35:24,090 --> 01:35:27,470
what are we referring to it as

1753
01:35:27,470 --> 01:35:32,100
urgency is time sensitive matter

1754
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:34,970
happy to see it just it started with on this

1755
01:35:34,970 --> 01:35:36,960
basis so we thought it would ever happen to live

1756
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,290
in dealing with the clerk on this and there does

1757
01:35:39,390 --> 01:35:43,200
appear to be a way of doing it ... counselor

1758
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,940
to wanna aligned with what it takes yeah no I

1759
01:35:47,940 --> 01:35:51,010
don't have a motion but it's it's fairly simple I

1760
01:35:51,010 --> 01:35:54,260
want to move under emergency in time sensitive Mister mayor

1761
01:35:54,260 --> 01:35:58,760
that ... we direct staff to engage with the residents

1762
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:03,470
of Harris and beach ... who have some ... well

1763
01:36:03,470 --> 01:36:08,170
water issues at this time on a on a temporary

1764
01:36:08,170 --> 01:36:12,190
measure that they'd be able to use our community centers

1765
01:36:12,190 --> 01:36:15,890
for bathing until we can resolve this issue or help

1766
01:36:15,890 --> 01:36:19,340
getting just inject water use of water at the community

1767
01:36:19,340 --> 01:36:21,750
center okay

1768
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:24,860
all right so

1769
01:36:24,860 --> 01:36:27,430
it's a motion we have a motion to for an

1770
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:30,920
emergency and time sensitive matter

1771
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,330
bring it forward all those in favor of clean up

1772
01:36:33,330 --> 01:36:39,410
for polls Gary Indiana misli the motion is as we

1773
01:36:40,150 --> 01:36:43,820
know Mr Carter we okay with that

1774
01:36:43,820 --> 01:36:45,850
we want to we want to wait and see it

1775
01:36:45,850 --> 01:36:47,990
on screen

1776
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:50,600
I think it's really simple connection

1777
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,800
yes this direction

1778
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,670
okay ... okay go ahead with all those in favor

1779
01:36:56,570 --> 01:36:58,330
last

1780
01:36:58,330 --> 01:37:00,000
that that's

1781
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,480
image is even doing that ... I I do ...

1782
01:37:03,610 --> 01:37:07,750
thinks that ... there are a number of other questions

1783
01:37:07,750 --> 01:37:11,300
that ... I still have about the the issue that

1784
01:37:11,300 --> 01:37:13,910
we're talking about and that I would I've been dealing

1785
01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:17,100
with staff on this both the I guess the the

1786
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:19,730
low our local staff and also the ... some of

1787
01:37:19,730 --> 01:37:23,330
York region staff Bacardi Cup public health so I would

1788
01:37:23,330 --> 01:37:27,110
not only encouraged us to do what the motion is

1789
01:37:27,110 --> 01:37:29,980
saying but I also would very much like to see

1790
01:37:29,980 --> 01:37:34,030
us expedite the ability for our staff and the public

1791
01:37:34,030 --> 01:37:36,800
health staff to get these people some answers because I

1792
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,640
think we need to define the that problem in my

1793
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,880
mind at least I I don't understand all of the

1794
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,750
details of the situation and I think that really needs

1795
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:48,610
to be done so that we can have ... like

1796
01:37:48,610 --> 01:37:51,500
this is a good ... temporary fix but I think

1797
01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:55,280
we need a more permanent ... answer to some of

1798
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,500
these questions in order for us to go forward so

1799
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,160
thank you add to that direction just well I I

1800
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,610
don't I'm not sure that we need I I I'll

1801
01:38:03,610 --> 01:38:05,490
kill out that's a good question I mean do we

1802
01:38:05,490 --> 01:38:07,810
need to speak to formally add that or I I

1803
01:38:07,810 --> 01:38:10,840
suspect from dealing with staff up to this point that

1804
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:13,840
that is the the message that I've been sending out

1805
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,860
in that I've been hearing back from the staff at

1806
01:38:15,860 --> 01:38:20,600
the working class at the three Miss America we're following

1807
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:25,150
our protocols for testing and retesting water ... there was

1808
01:38:25,150 --> 01:38:28,210
one adverse sample were retesting that sample to make sure

1809
01:38:28,210 --> 01:38:32,270
it wasn't a contamination ... issues associated with the example

1810
01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:35,480
itself sometimes when you take a sample from the from

1811
01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:38,690
the top there's bacteria that gets in the samples will

1812
01:38:38,690 --> 01:38:41,010
make sure that samples three

1813
01:38:41,010 --> 01:38:43,800
but we are on it we are following our protocols

1814
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:46,100
and we're out there testing retesting I think it's a

1815
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:49,890
good suggestion if people are feeling ... on unsafe ...

1816
01:38:49,890 --> 01:38:51,880
then we need to make sure that they have access

1817
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,880
to ... the water that they need okay well I

1818
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,790
mean I don't think it needs to be formalized because

1819
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:59,510
I think that's where we're headed all right all those

1820
01:38:59,510 --> 01:39:06,030
in favor opposed unanimously thank you a product from the

1821
01:39:06,030 --> 01:39:10,200
proceeds of this council meeting by one twenty seven nineteen

1822
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,940
of the product including channels

1823
01:39:13,940 --> 01:39:16,310
welcome to jerk

1824
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:30,810
conservative councillor protocols in favor thank you all