1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:12,640 morning ladies and gentlemen 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,240 welcome to the regional regional council meeting city of Richmond 3 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:19,550 L. 4 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:22,180 and ... at this point time and all will call 5 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:24,860 meeting to order and ask us to stand for the 6 00:00:24,860 --> 00:00:35,210 national anthem 7 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:18,070 C. 8 00:02:07,430 --> 00:02:14,300 thank you 9 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:18,020 we now have an opportunity for a public forum 10 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:20,650 5 minutes speakers if not 11 00:02:20,650 --> 00:02:24,580 but they're not on the agenda and anyway 12 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:26,630 server to come up and 13 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:29,550 their name name and address please 14 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:41,660 Ahmadinejad the staff at the Mike 15 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:45,100 and we have a distributed some information here here comes 16 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:48,110 on everyone my name is Johnny I live in tool 17 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:52,400 six Brookside road Richmond hill ... today on behalf of 18 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,170 Yang born in the retina surgeon I'm making the speech 19 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:59,670 tomorrow the planning department is scheduled to release the life 20 00:02:59,990 --> 00:03:03,760 young boarded up he said in the past the proposed 21 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,720 density value grew six percent 22 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,630 the population that's the way you preschool about the fifty 23 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:15,100 four thousand people per kilometer wall five hundred forty five 24 00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:18,520 people her attackers 25 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,800 to use the whole crew easier practical these proposed population 26 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,670 density let's look at a species cannot log put put 27 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:29,950 on the fifteenth up most of the dance community in 28 00:03:29,950 --> 00:03:32,630 Canada the coffee for 29 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:34,420 I think the topic here is the list of top 30 00:03:34,420 --> 00:03:37,050 fifty items of a small but I keep calm before 31 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,930 every console and the 32 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:41,820 I can't so if we look at the table 33 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:44,810 finally caught fifty does it even caught fire you for 34 00:03:44,810 --> 00:03:48,920 category fourth year reason of death is only one action 35 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,200 committee system teams topped the polls committee in parental use 36 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,040 up all five hundred plus the practice I also have 37 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,230 a night ... tall high density committee the data from 38 00:04:00,230 --> 00:04:02,920 three hundred to five hundred actors 39 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,070 president for hackers well in that national 40 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:09,680 eighteen verify does the committee from two hundred to three 41 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,880 hundred Russia perhaps only eighteen twenty two high density hi 42 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,780 I need a hundred if you have a hundred feet 43 00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:19,300 deep twenty people prior to our meeting hi this is 44 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:24,150 Lisa walked up proposed that is on top of these 45 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:27,470 does the next Sunday's top national record you might as 46 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:30,430 well those that seek him trail noticed that the only 47 00:04:30,430 --> 00:04:32,210 problem I have one of these thank you for the 48 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:35,020 poorest communities in Canada 49 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:37,450 right now let's see you see you when you redo 50 00:04:37,450 --> 00:04:40,760 people hot for fifty percent used to run a call 51 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,330 fifteen 52 00:04:42,330 --> 00:04:45,620 even if you call the special hot the school record 53 00:04:45,620 --> 00:04:50,710 pop fifteen couple thirty percent certain that he's young we 54 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:54,120 didn't propose that if he did you have racked up 55 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,350 sixty so right now you yup we did no I 56 00:04:57,350 --> 00:05:02,410 mean place contract policies right now my 57 00:05:02,410 --> 00:05:05,140 the highest 58 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:07,650 right right now 59 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:09,890 is about a hundred sixty to four hundred thirty six 60 00:05:09,890 --> 00:05:12,200 resident for hackers 61 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,430 not happy you are you should feel right on the 62 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:25,350 highest density sixty what one of these days 63 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:29,680 please note this company sizes similar to PDA is all 64 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,670 about twenty five or more next I'm not talking the 65 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:35,960 big it was postmarked so is a compatible right now 66 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,930 you can only speak T. come he's the Daddy about 67 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:43,680 one hundred fifty people or perhaps you've got a proposed 68 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:47,300 proposed a national record right now all you all if 69 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:51,670 you wi fi know any place placed so high ... 70 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:58,710 that downtown Toronto no such records 71 00:05:58,710 --> 00:06:01,320 sorry public where X. accuracy 72 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,460 for this company you see the future plans yeah we 73 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:07,300 don't have complete high school I think very highly of 74 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:10,320 high density and ... 75 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,880 19 high density 76 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,650 one of the key here a modest nineteen that's only 77 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:19,990 a hundred to sixty people her characters not a five 78 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:21,910 six hundred 79 00:06:21,910 --> 00:06:25,400 number 80 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,950 yeah one of the least leasing that does the your 81 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:32,450 needless for me to see what I mean is the 82 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:35,340 residential class job you can see a lot of high 83 00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:37,240 rise in downtown 84 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,550 what the most obvious beauty is often 85 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:45,940 the hospitals they don't need our schools that's why the 86 00:06:45,940 --> 00:06:47,750 Barack 87 00:06:47,750 --> 00:06:49,540 but you were wrong 88 00:06:49,540 --> 00:06:57,870 only one place to resolve the density 89 00:06:57,870 --> 00:07:02,220 we know this CD has restarted I W. D. two 90 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:05,940 idea the report to start report what I want you 91 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:12,020 want your ability but remember don't know numbers I also 92 00:07:12,020 --> 00:07:15,050 got all those hundreds of thousands of people kind of 93 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:21,330 this country you know what this means 94 00:07:21,330 --> 00:07:22,620 all 95 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:27,080 we cannot increase the density of population density target actually 96 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,550 you'll see the young me to propose ways on this 97 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,020 page only one job for the city residents where are 98 00:07:35,250 --> 00:07:37,790 we to fifty thousand for the sixteen 99 00:07:37,790 --> 00:07:41,130 until I see if we can see if the requirement 100 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,110 why are you stil polls and that's the record for 101 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:48,710 what we should what's behind it 102 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:52,820 but I didn't get it okay just one minute finished 103 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:54,440 at all okay it's 104 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,500 that's this coming out I thank these opportunities to give 105 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:01,170 you more for this is a scandal what do you 106 00:08:01,170 --> 00:08:06,070 think scale also benefiting the scandal right now all the 107 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:09,440 arsenal that's a hundred people goals with former TV which 108 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,340 Intel and user parking buddies you'll want to release these 109 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:17,310 black I'm not a hundred other people in the world 110 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:22,820 last April com movie after the promotion what the consequences 111 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:25,160 you like to gather okay this is why all Asian 112 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 form 113 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,120 right now 114 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,470 if you use a day off profession 115 00:08:32,470 --> 00:08:36,500 okay thank you Sir 116 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:40,570 thank you 117 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:45,080 it's rare but US forces speak public forum not on 118 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,330 the agenda 119 00:08:49,330 --> 00:08:52,910 she's not she's not 120 00:08:52,910 --> 00:08:55,460 I'm sorry are you on the agenda 121 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:57,130 I'm not about 122 00:08:57,130 --> 00:08:59,450 yes because I'm trying to 123 00:08:59,450 --> 00:09:06,770 your delegate then we have to wait to concern itself 124 00:09:06,770 --> 00:09:09,060 hello my name is merry great and I live a 125 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:11,800 pretty one rough on crescent between Phil and I have 126 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,900 been here in Richmond hill since nineteen eighty three in 127 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:18,140 a lot of growth I'm here to represent ... towards 128 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:23,800 York community choir and we have 129 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,030 are you I'm sorry it's not yes we're trying to 130 00:09:28,030 --> 00:09:32,110 figure out ... you you did you signed up to 131 00:09:32,110 --> 00:09:33,670 speak 132 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:37,130 nope okay the tax base okay okay fair enough I 133 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:40,540 guess okay I used to speak in support of the 134 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:43,650 cultural grant and Richmond hill Mister mayor I know it's 135 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:46,870 if you could please explain if you're here to speak 136 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:50,130 about an item that is currently on the agenda you 137 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:53,900 can speak later this portion I'm sorry Mr that's outside 138 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:56,350 this person is for members of the audience to speak 139 00:09:56,350 --> 00:09:59,420 to something that is not on the agenda business that 140 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:02,210 is not in front of us today is the opportunity 141 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:04,780 for this period the cultural grant is on the it's 142 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:06,410 on the agenda 143 00:10:06,410 --> 00:10:10,150 you can speak later okay sorry Mr marriages for clarified 144 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:11,880 so strong that 145 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:18,110 you can clear 146 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:20,270 okay 147 00:10:20,270 --> 00:10:22,640 there's no one else wishes to speak that is not 148 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,330 on the agenda 149 00:10:24,330 --> 00:10:27,580 council announcements 150 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:32,080 west 151 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,510 I thank you Mr mayor I just a couple of 152 00:10:34,510 --> 00:10:37,150 quick things ... I just wanted to give a shout 153 00:10:37,150 --> 00:10:39,850 out to everybody that was able to attend the regional 154 00:10:39,850 --> 00:10:43,180 winter carnival I was R. fifty third sorry fifty second 155 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:46,400 getting ahead of myself here ... it was the weekend 156 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,090 before last great weather ... we appreciate all the support 157 00:10:50,090 --> 00:10:52,800 that we received from the ... the community and also 158 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,390 from the sponsors thank you very much ... mother nature 159 00:10:56,390 --> 00:10:58,840 didn't give us ice this year but he promised me 160 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,980 that she would have it next year and that's fine 161 00:11:01,420 --> 00:11:04,720 ... I would also like to thank the our staff 162 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,170 that they are consistently ... there to support the event 163 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:11,250 it is a community event but the ... the staff 164 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:13,680 in Richmond hill is very much supportive of that and 165 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,940 and comes out every year and doesn't excellent job so 166 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,450 commissioner I'd like you to pass that on to the 167 00:11:18,450 --> 00:11:21,700 ... public works staff that were there and also ... 168 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:24,550 like to just mention that on Sunday we had out 169 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:26,930 in the Bayern mental symposium at the theater I was 170 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:30,130 able to host that with another community member ... well 171 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:33,510 attended some good speakers and death I would just point 172 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:35,560 that I'd like to just highlight there was a really 173 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,400 interesting ... conversation with second harvest that came to is 174 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,150 one of the speakers and it was really incredible the 175 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:46,040 ... this the statistics that the speaker was ... talking 176 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,740 about with regard to food waste and ... I very 177 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:51,610 much look forward to exploring that a little bit more 178 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:54,830 ... and and having them have a bigger presence in 179 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:58,030 our community because I it's unbelievable the numbers and it's 180 00:11:58,030 --> 00:12:00,890 not just food waste it's also greenhouse gas emissions and 181 00:12:00,890 --> 00:12:03,960 so on that that that represents so ... it was 182 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,810 it that was in and of itself is a very 183 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:08,190 interesting moment I I'd like to bring that to the 184 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:10,990 attention of a wrap my colleagues as well so thank 185 00:12:10,990 --> 00:12:12,390 you 186 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:14,430 thank you so much 187 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:17,490 ... today just a quick as a food distributor of 188 00:12:17,490 --> 00:12:19,850 matching the engage with second harvest and courage of the 189 00:12:19,850 --> 00:12:23,510 people do second harvest as well ... on January eighth 190 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:27,240 was a ... incident in Iran where flight seven fifty 191 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,140 two was shot down the culture for those that don't 192 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:33,770 know ... in that ... just to go a little 193 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:36,900 history there for those winding hundred seventy six people died 194 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:40,110 in that incident directly in the on the flight all 195 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:43,210 those hundred seventy six fifty seven were Canadians not the 196 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,350 of the hundred seventy six hundred thirty eight how to 197 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:49,190 die rechte Canadian attachment of which at least eighteen had 198 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:52,590 a direct Richmond hill connection putting many vendors we have 199 00:12:52,590 --> 00:12:56,220 some storage that's not what I'm discussing the culture there 200 00:12:56,220 --> 00:12:59,050 is that the we had a has a a respect 201 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,880 for the incident and forty days after the incident is 202 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,970 when ... another memorials being taking place and we were 203 00:13:06,970 --> 00:13:09,920 going to do another memorial in Richmond hill but we've 204 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,490 decided to work we being the people who worked on 205 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:15,870 that memorial on the sixteenth ... there's going to be 206 00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:19,680 A. I. and ... engagement at the North York to 207 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,640 look out for that in the last ten square and 208 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,280 I ask if you can't come at least remember because 209 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,080 it was a tragedy and ... it is a solemn 210 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,650 areas so hopefully you keep those ... the souls in 211 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:32,620 your prayers thank you 212 00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:35,440 if you can supply 213 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,140 thank you Mr mayor and ... I want to make 214 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:42,850 two announcements one is on February twenty ninth Mr Maher 215 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:47,350 ... the ... city of Richmond hill has challenged the 216 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:51,690 province in a basketball game ... to raise money for 217 00:13:51,970 --> 00:13:57,580 a local youth basketball organization called play forever I believe 218 00:13:58,140 --> 00:14:00,690 a run by a young gentleman by the name of 219 00:14:00,690 --> 00:14:03,890 Muhammad and the the objective of which is to raise 220 00:14:03,890 --> 00:14:08,150 money so that these ... these children these youth cannot 221 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:11,540 play basketball and get them some uniforms and shoes and 222 00:14:11,540 --> 00:14:14,740 so on ... we've raised quite a bit of money 223 00:14:14,740 --> 00:14:17,380 so far want to keep that a surprise for the 224 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:21,780 actual evening ... the basketball game is ... February twenty 225 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:26,350 ninth at ... Richmond hill high school and ... everybody's 226 00:14:26,350 --> 00:14:29,760 welcome to come in and be a spectator cheer and 227 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:35,830 cheer for the city and ... secondly ... I'm hosting 228 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:40,540 a ... skating go party at ... the Richmond green 229 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:44,590 skate trail the the the very next day ... which 230 00:14:44,590 --> 00:14:48,810 is a March first ... between eleven and one at 231 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:52,380 the skate trail Richmond ... green and they'll be our 232 00:14:52,380 --> 00:14:56,430 free pancakes and hot chocolate for everybody who attends so 233 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:58,410 I I hope everybody can come out and enjoy the 234 00:14:58,410 --> 00:15:03,140 day with us thank you Mr thank you 235 00:15:03,140 --> 00:15:08,890 seeing no others ... introduction of emergency time sensitive matters 236 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:13,840 see any counselor where I have to ... one of 237 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,190 the coming open session the other elected on closed session 238 00:15:16,450 --> 00:15:19,790 for a ... has to with a with a staff 239 00:15:19,790 --> 00:15:24,590 member has to with regards to a ... 240 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:26,960 I'd like to have a private camera talk about a 241 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,400 situation with a staff member that needs to be done 242 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,830 in camera 243 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:34,360 okay Virginia to describe what it is when we go 244 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,880 on camera so we need to 245 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:46,270 57 mera camera certainly if 246 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,320 if ... it at this time he would be a 247 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,510 motion for ... council to decide whether these two items 248 00:15:53,510 --> 00:15:56,350 should be added to the generator to lose one open 249 00:15:56,350 --> 00:16:01,120 session at a conference session close sessions ... if you 250 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,620 said staff members so I can craft the motion the 251 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:06,080 open session matter please counsel the open source has to 252 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,830 do with on ... January the eleventh we had a 253 00:16:10,410 --> 00:16:14,170 ... rain incident that went in January eleven January twelfth 254 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,700 for there's up to fifty millimeters of water that went 255 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:20,520 through York region had a sewer backup and ... that 256 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,090 affected all the sewage system in Richmond hill and the 257 00:16:23,090 --> 00:16:26,770 back flow went through to number number members of the 258 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:29,550 community and we want to make sure that people hi 259 00:16:29,550 --> 00:16:31,750 res this last time the councils were brought together will 260 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,160 be propped yet again but ... we have to make 261 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,000 sure your pension ... because ... just warming up to 262 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,930 the what we have to do thank 263 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:47,180 yeah so the the ... just just in terms of 264 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:49,500 identifying individuals 265 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,180 yes okay so for the open one we have ... 266 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:54,730 mover and second ... counselor 267 00:16:54,730 --> 00:16:56,810 hello 268 00:16:56,810 --> 00:17:02,200 4 I'm just calling it the flood okay 269 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,380 and the closed 270 00:17:06,380 --> 00:17:18,040 there's a different vigil 271 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,750 okay so Sir moving this is your second goal of 272 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:35,760 the yeah okay thank you 273 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,470 the clerk review 274 00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:41,240 we will be dealing with that until we get to 275 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,590 the closed session portion right 276 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:46,310 as far as providing what it is 277 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:48,970 as we move on at this point that we get 278 00:17:48,970 --> 00:18:00,640 this right I'm going to go okay 279 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:14,940 waiting for yes your worship right thank you all the 280 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:18,840 five major Star City confirmation either from Mr Croker for 281 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,780 you all day service center for any discussion on close 282 00:19:23,780 --> 00:19:26,330 session ... 283 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:30,420 is it not also requirement that notice be given 284 00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,930 prior to the close session 285 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:35,040 I'm just saying off 286 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,970 caution I know we can do it within the meeting 287 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,050 but at best to be sure that we are living 288 00:19:41,050 --> 00:19:48,120 within the confines of all the ... ... require legislative 289 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:52,400 and also all final framework 290 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,200 for you perhaps I would direct that to ... I'll 291 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:04,700 ... ... status on a sitter 292 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,060 thank you to Mister Maher ... is there is not 293 00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:13,170 to my knowledge ... any requirements for advance notice ... 294 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:16,880 specifically or talk about personal matters and matters of identifiable 295 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,410 individuals ... and in the absence of a legislative provision 296 00:20:20,410 --> 00:20:23,650 requiring such notice as long as council considers this a 297 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:25,710 time sensitive matter it can add it to the agenda 298 00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:28,250 thank you I appreciate that it is good that you 299 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:32,240 have to assurances ... thank you thank you 300 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,720 okay it is on the screen this one time 301 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,140 this is a 2 time sensitive matter 302 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:44,760 yes No Way Senate yes go ahead 303 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,350 thank you Mr master you to the mover at as 304 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:50,570 far as I know ... ... with regards to the 305 00:20:50,570 --> 00:20:53,350 introduction of emergency and time sensitive matter is there a 306 00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:58,380 specific criteria as to why ... emergency instructions in the 307 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:01,590 matter should be added to the agenda those include legal 308 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:04,530 and financial so I'd like to ask through you to 309 00:21:04,530 --> 00:21:07,910 the move out can you please explain what the financial 310 00:21:07,910 --> 00:21:10,850 and legal ... 311 00:21:10,850 --> 00:21:15,140 Mattis o'shea on each one well I would I would 312 00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:17,550 like to know if that according to our procedural bylaw 313 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 there is a it is a very specific definition 314 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,750 to introduce emergency and time sensitive matter 315 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:26,010 financial and legal 316 00:21:26,010 --> 00:21:30,160 all right okay for first time since 2 317 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,440 I'm sensor for the one we have people who have 318 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:36,380 ... garbage that needs to be thrown out we have 319 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:39,650 garbage days every two weeks ... we only have a 320 00:21:39,650 --> 00:21:42,810 certain type of counsel once a month if we wait 321 00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:45,270 until report comes back and forth people are gonna have 322 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,570 garbage I don't think the resins one garbage all throughout 323 00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:50,390 the community that's that's fine so I think that works 324 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:53,700 with regard to the section where of this also so 325 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:56,230 chances are the right option the issues that we're we're 326 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:59,680 involving him we were involved in now 327 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,700 okay spoke to the other okay thank you thank you 328 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:06,420 all right 329 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:10,620 this is before us all those in favor of 330 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:12,130 this motion 331 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:14,000 up 332 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,450 carries unanimously 333 00:22:17,450 --> 00:22:19,840 all right who will move on to adoption of the 334 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,420 agenda 335 00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:23,660 so now I have those two items added to our 336 00:22:23,660 --> 00:22:25,250 agenda 337 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:29,100 the motion over in a second ... for adoption of 338 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:33,310 the agenda ... Jenda has is now 339 00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:38,650 photo consular affairs thank you all those in favor pulls 340 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:40,990 Kerry thing 341 00:22:40,990 --> 00:22:45,300 disclosures of can interest in the general nature there ... 342 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:51,920 consular service and follow it right so 343 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,080 thank you Mister may I wish to read the statement 344 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,670 I once again declare an indirect pecuniary and conflict of 345 00:22:57,670 --> 00:23:02,060 interest regarding agenda item thirteen point five the twenty twenty 346 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:05,840 community and cultural grants program as I did before out 347 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,170 of an abundance of caution as per the munificent years 348 00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:12,160 of a conflict of interest act the NCIA the code 349 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,220 of conduct and as proprietor legal advice due to my 350 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:20,000 associations or affiliations with the number of the named organizations 351 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,300 seeking public grant money which must be approved or denied 352 00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:25,860 by counsel I have deemed it would be a conflict 353 00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:28,870 of interest for me to participate in any formal discussions 354 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:33,270 or decisions regarding this particular agenda item I know a 355 00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:37,180 profit from any of those associations and affiliations nor do 356 00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:41,900 I receive any monetary compensation from them what so ever 357 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:44,960 I am seated ... participate in these organizations in my 358 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,890 identification as a Richmond hill councillor purely on a volunteer 359 00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:52,570 basis and I do such with integrity and honor I 360 00:23:52,570 --> 00:23:55,950 trust my public statement made here today February twelfth would 361 00:23:55,950 --> 00:23:58,550 ensure the protection and sanctity of my oath of office 362 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:01,790 and the reputation of those organizations to which I am 363 00:24:01,790 --> 00:24:04,600 affiliated thank you 364 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,370 okay 365 00:24:06,370 --> 00:24:09,860 elsewhere west thank you as is my responsibility as a 366 00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:13,140 counselor I will also need to declare a conflict of 367 00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:16,410 interest on it Gend item number thirteen five I am 368 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:19,710 a volunteer in a leadership position on the volunteer board 369 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:22,050 of directors of one of the organizations that is on 370 00:24:22,050 --> 00:24:25,530 the list for receiving a grant ... potentially ought to 371 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:28,810 be abundantly clear ... this is a volunteer position and 372 00:24:28,810 --> 00:24:31,220 there is no direct pecuniary interest because like so many 373 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:33,890 volunteers I receive no money for my actions in this 374 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:36,990 position however out of an abundance of caution and to 375 00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:39,970 avoid even the appearance of a conflict ... but more 376 00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:42,500 so out of an abundance of respect for the integrity 377 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:45,540 of the process of choosing grant recipients I will step 378 00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:48,600 away from voting on this matter 379 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,470 all right 380 00:24:53,470 --> 00:24:56,600 disclosures okay we are now going so you're never going 381 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,040 to adopt at previous council minutes council meeting zero one 382 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,000 twenty held on January twenty second and council public meeting 383 00:25:06,030 --> 00:25:07,910 zero 384 00:25:07,910 --> 00:25:13,020 two twenty held on January twenty second twenty twenty eleven 385 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:15,470 mover in a second ... for both of those kinds 386 00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:18,490 of questions cancer service 387 00:25:18,490 --> 00:25:23,930 in comments seeing none all those in favor of 388 00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:29,050 identification of items requiring separate discussion items to be discussed 389 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:31,770 ... a phone number 390 00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:34,040 here we have 391 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,540 and this is just a quick ... I think from 392 00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:39,190 the point of view we have two items thirteen three 393 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:41,780 five is the operating budget 394 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:45,610 that was brought ... budget council our budget committee sent 395 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:49,140 here and we also have thirteen twelve which is a 396 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:54,520 memorandum from ... David dexter director financial and I would 397 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,020 suggest that there are some ... 398 00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:02,230 update and revise recommendations so if we combine these two 399 00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:04,700 together and deal with them is one item okay so 400 00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:07,720 fifteen three five thirteen twelve 401 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,110 we also have ... thirteen for based on the demolition 402 00:26:12,110 --> 00:26:15,080 requests were Jefferson school house 403 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,390 thirteen five being the community and cultural grant program that 404 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:22,080 we've ... 405 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,530 and then also we have thirteen eight which is Richmond 406 00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:29,830 hill climate change actions 407 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:34,170 all that is all that I have here unless other 408 00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:38,630 people ... members want to remove items to be discussed 409 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:40,720 a server errors 410 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,640 I would like to speak to item thirteen point seven 411 00:26:44,150 --> 00:26:48,750 private street naming thank you okay 412 00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:53,860 he has cancer well it is thirteen point three point 413 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:58,740 five ... excluded from consent 414 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:00,600 1520 415 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,260 okay 416 00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:04,620 that's that's what I was trying to confirm the thirteen 417 00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:07,740 three five now at twelve I'm sorry ... thirteen for 418 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:14,770 thirteen for thirteen point four delegation delegation okay for 419 00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:16,570 yes 420 00:27:16,570 --> 00:27:20,980 any other the 421 00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:24,030 for for discussion 422 00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:28,310 seeing none mention I asked her I can I will 423 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:31,260 read 424 00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,780 okay those are 425 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:36,160 no 426 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,010 okay so those are the items so seven ... wanted 427 00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:45,160 to we've dealt with so thirteen ... 428 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,010 123 429 00:27:48,010 --> 00:27:55,040 now we have 6 430 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,260 78 431 00:27:57,260 --> 00:28:00,830 7 sevens in sorry 432 00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:02,060 also 433 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:04,010 thank you SO 9 434 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:11,590 10111314 and 15 are 435 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,220 other ones it's not for discussions or whatever mover and 436 00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:17,160 second for those items 437 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:24,900 transaction so it's near almonds all those in favor 438 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:29,420 and honestly Cecil if you were if you were visiting 439 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:31,670 here today based on I think you're here for all 440 00:28:31,670 --> 00:28:33,440 the ones that we're going to have a discussion on 441 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:37,080 if you're not in the slightest doubt with councils dealt 442 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,060 with 443 00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:46,740 we have no interest no presentations but we do have 444 00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:50,230 delegations 445 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:52,710 Mister Palmer shoes 446 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:59,310 I'll try that again if you recognize that name product 447 00:28:59,310 --> 00:29:01,470 sorry 448 00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:05,390 with 449 00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:10,730 thank you former borough councillors ... I appear here last 450 00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:14,440 January twenty second to advocate for the preservation of the 451 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,130 Jefferson school hours on young street 452 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:21,540 the historical society's goal was to participate in a discussion 453 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:24,430 that would lead to a denial of a permit seeking 454 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:27,500 the demolition of the building and see the beginning of 455 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:30,990 work leading to the preservation and hopefully restoration of this 456 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:33,300 historic structure 457 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:35,420 ... I I don't think we need to repeat your 458 00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:39,570 argument here that this building warrants the city's protection 459 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:42,500 the heritage value of such a structure with well documented 460 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,390 when it received its heritage designation from the town in 461 00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:47,290 nineteen eighty two 462 00:29:47,290 --> 00:29:49,730 and we feel the passage of time has only served 463 00:29:49,730 --> 00:29:52,690 to increase the value our view is that such an 464 00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:57,320 extraordinary connection to our past warrant celebration and certainly not 465 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,350 demolition 466 00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:03,200 now we're aware that discussions have been underway since a 467 00:30:03,340 --> 00:30:07,800 January twenty second council meeting regarding possible options that would 468 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,560 see this building preserved and restored and we know that 469 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,340 the structural condition of the building offers some challenges 470 00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:18,500 we also know however that such challenges can be met 471 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:22,810 that any number of heritage buildings have been successfully restored 472 00:30:22,810 --> 00:30:27,300 and remain as useful reminders of our past 473 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,900 the society's view is that our goal of preserving the 474 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:33,510 historical value of the Jefferson school house could be achieved 475 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,980 in a number of ways 476 00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:38,800 the building to the left word is restored for any 477 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,770 number of users 478 00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:43,220 the building could be left on the side or possibly 479 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,970 move somewhat and restored in order to become part of 480 00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:47,760 a larger project 481 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,550 for the building could be relocated to another site and 482 00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:53,400 restored as a stand alone structure or indeed is part 483 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,840 of another larger development 484 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,040 the Historical Society doesn't underestimate the level of commitment 485 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520 operation that would be required to see the Jefferson school 486 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,170 house preserved 487 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:09,250 the city investors and contractors would all have to work 488 00:31:09,250 --> 00:31:12,610 together to see any of the option most I've referenced 489 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:16,010 above come to fruition the result however would be a 490 00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:19,510 very public and a very positive display of our collective 491 00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:23,880 will to see our past celebrated yet contribute to Richmond 492 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,950 hill's ongoing development 493 00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:30,860 the Jefferson school house represents an opportunity for Richmond hill 494 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:34,640 to be very visible example of a community that values 495 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,140 its past and works hard to make up faster ... 496 00:31:38,170 --> 00:31:42,180 integral part of its present and its future 497 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:47,040 in closing the Richmond hill Historical Society hoaxes demonstrated their 498 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,210 options but demolition need not be a solution 499 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:54,260 our goal is the preservation of the Jefferson school house 500 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,560 there are a number of ways to achieve that goal 501 00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:01,020 there are many Richmond hill citizens who applaud that result 502 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:06,170 please remember when it's gone it's gone forever 503 00:32:06,170 --> 00:32:08,320 thank you very much 504 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,880 thank you 505 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,390 thank you for the suggestions 506 00:32:17,390 --> 00:32:20,540 Mr will help make 507 00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:30,910 Sir 508 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,060 good morning fiftieth members of the city council of my 509 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:44,500 adopted community actually of the community restrict up to me 510 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:48,950 and my family your delivery location some weeks ago in 511 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,610 the last council meeting motivated me S. a retired professor 512 00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:57,230 of history to pay a visit to the site it's 513 00:32:57,230 --> 00:33:01,310 always helpful not just to look at papers staff reports 514 00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,530 but look at the site 515 00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:06,780 that I can make sure to put two paths that 516 00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:07,980 that the 517 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,990 the first one I looked around the building it is 518 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,620 cropping days no question 519 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:18,440 it is beautiful in the matching different breaks 520 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,990 all entrapped yellow InStyleTime it is crumbling at the corners 521 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:28,510 and in fact that's a foundation but it's somewhat tough 522 00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:31,950 job to be done there's no question 523 00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:36,400 I went inside insight is to play in square a 524 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,310 rectangle room which is 525 00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:46,760 so simple that you can see this one room schoolhouse 526 00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:51,640 I could see actually imagine the deaths the L. eighty 527 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,120 test simplicity has its top 528 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,340 that is the third part of my exclusion 529 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:02,590 I went outside and looked at the property which is 530 00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:07,770 it actually amazing why who's a south of the building 531 00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:11,830 and then across the street and the construction site and 532 00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:14,980 I look back and I'd like to share this with 533 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,890 your 534 00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:22,070 it's from Google I'm not I'm in the nineteenth century 535 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:25,780 dress and so on thousands with feel good anymore 536 00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:31,740 the what I no Dey sloths what I could see 537 00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:35,030 now yeah I don't have my pen here excuse me 538 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:38,310 I have to take my column is 539 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:42,160 I imagine when I stood on the other side 540 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,620 the road to 541 00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:47,720 on the west side of young I could imagine 542 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:51,050 if the economy gets face enough space I thought he 543 00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:54,570 did calling out in the back 544 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:58,540 the town houses in the back or even sort of 545 00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:00,790 accountability 546 00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:04,080 and I could see 547 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,580 modern buildings framing six little halls and in contrast to 548 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:12,380 the reproach of the governed 549 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:14,830 C. H. whatever 550 00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:18,510 what I DO that this old building doesn't have a 551 00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:22,910 place anymore I thought what is this young generation me 552 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:25,930 as an old man still have hope for the help 553 00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:30,330 of functions of contest my granddaughter would never agree with 554 00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:35,050 this argument but always say pizza pop to me grandpa 555 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:38,840 this is grandpa transparency stability 556 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,920 this building has the potential exactly a place not being 557 00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:49,760 moved somewhere else to Richmond green lights at train station 558 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,230 to make to be a living history black black 559 00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:58,070 ... not just the fact this was a place Mister 560 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:02,660 Jefferson it in Basra but for people driving up 561 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:07,300 on yes did you okay there is a complementary opposite 562 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,000 contrast 563 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,630 and I'm sorry I don't know whether the also also 564 00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:16,070 reflected Sierra but I totally agree my blood pressure was 565 00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:20,670 going up to the state's argument the pamphlet isn't around 566 00:36:20,670 --> 00:36:25,190 anymore this building at eight setting 567 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:29,860 can be a historical living plaque for the development of 568 00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:34,220 a handed to a village to a town to a 569 00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:36,330 city 570 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:40,700 this is something we can visualize yep 571 00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,280 and I'm saying this because I'm quite encouraged by the 572 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:49,030 development of the old town hall at the corner of 573 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640 young and Wright state 574 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,890 ... when I started my career of being interested to 575 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,920 what you guys do ... events look at this this 576 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,040 is a lively place today which problem no it's it's 577 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,940 amazing it's vibrating people experience it you can someone come 578 00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:16,480 and meet me there yes well I can meet your 579 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,620 any for somebody not F. I can see in this 580 00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:23,920 little baby coffee house 581 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,210 I can't see some see well I don't know whether 582 00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:30,890 it's economically feasible and how to do it but couple 583 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:36,070 notes gives an example it's with swipe to preserve the 584 00:37:36,070 --> 00:37:40,000 Jefferson school house it's a place where eight piece thank 585 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,460 you 586 00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:49,350 thank you 587 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:53,680 okay ... ... thirteen for one council rally U. S. 588 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,150 to speak 589 00:37:56,150 --> 00:38:01,490 thank you Mr mayor and thank you for the delegates 590 00:38:01,490 --> 00:38:04,770 I don't believe there's any one 591 00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:08,400 there wants to see the Jefferson school house 592 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,510 demolished 593 00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:14,240 because as the gentleman solid quickly stated once it's gone 594 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,380 it's gone forever 595 00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:20,770 D. the challenge I have 596 00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:22,900 is that 597 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,940 we have the rights of the city versus the rights 598 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:30,550 of the property owner 599 00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:34,130 without going into great history I've spent hundreds of hours 600 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:36,790 in that building 601 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:40,460 I think it's a magnificent building 602 00:38:40,460 --> 00:38:43,160 I think it should be preserved 603 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,410 the challenges we have is that 604 00:38:46,410 --> 00:38:49,990 how do we as a council 605 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:51,740 impose 606 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:55,090 our beliefs on a landowner with his property and his 607 00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:57,360 money 608 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,850 it's very challenging if you put yourself in and the 609 00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:03,200 owner's shoes and say 610 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,700 I'm struggling here I'm paying all these taxes I have 611 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,270 limited use of limited resources 612 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:12,160 and 613 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,200 maybe that owner doesn't see the value and the historical 614 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,060 building 615 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:20,740 so 616 00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:22,790 the challenges 617 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:26,140 I think we all agree let's let's preserve this building 618 00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:29,890 but the powers given to us from the government from 619 00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:31,890 the the province 620 00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:34,590 is that we can say yea or nay to a 621 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:36,970 demolition 622 00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:41,410 we can't make them fix the building we can't make 623 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:45,570 them fix it to the standard we want we can't 624 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:50,780 make them make it accessible to the public 625 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:54,170 we don't have that kind of power hasn't been bestowed 626 00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:55,650 upon us 627 00:39:55,650 --> 00:40:02,400 so we have to work collaboratively with the owner 628 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,450 as a basic principle I don't think we have the 629 00:40:06,450 --> 00:40:07,950 right 630 00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:10,120 to impose our will 631 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,670 on a property owner 632 00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:16,370 to make him do something against as well 633 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:18,950 and I say this for all 634 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:22,130 heritage buildings 635 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:24,110 the facts are 636 00:40:24,110 --> 00:40:28,430 that we have given three demolition permits to designated heritage 637 00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:31,880 buildings during this term of of office 638 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,300 and ... myself and several members of counts that I've 639 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,410 spoken to have I have not received one 640 00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:43,080 one complaint from the public there was no outcry that 641 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:46,600 we're destroying our heritage buildings 642 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,180 this one is a special building 643 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:53,210 I would go against my general principles and say if 644 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:58,520 there was one building to protect this would be it 645 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,970 but it's never going to be protected by the the 646 00:41:01,970 --> 00:41:03,200 owner 647 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,310 we would have to step in and do something 648 00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:10,670 so before I finish I would like to move a 649 00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:13,340 motion Mister Merrick 650 00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:16,490 that we deny the demolition permit 651 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:19,190 but that being said 652 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:20,870 the gentleman made 653 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:25,750 the same ... recommendations that I would make if we 654 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,880 as a council believe that the residents of Richmond hill 655 00:41:29,050 --> 00:41:35,890 want to preserve this property forever I think number one 656 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,210 it should remain a schoolhouse 657 00:41:40,210 --> 00:41:41,920 for other 658 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,440 any use it as a school house as opposed to 659 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:47,680 what we did on young street with the old post 660 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,340 office we we bought it we restarted its magnificent it's 661 00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:56,670 a real estate office kinda loses its contacts 662 00:41:56,670 --> 00:41:59,010 so I would like to see the Jefferson school house 663 00:41:59,010 --> 00:42:04,170 be purchased ideally the ultimate is be purchased if it's 664 00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:06,960 the will of the people of Richmond hill 665 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,770 that the city purchased the property enter into agreement with 666 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:15,230 the owner restore at and turn it back into a 667 00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:19,900 school house now not mainstream school obviously it's just one 668 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:23,050 little white house but let's say 669 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:26,470 for example we turned into a school house for an 670 00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:29,980 autistic program for autistic kids 671 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:34,300 and forever have it there so everybody can enjoy 672 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,240 so Mr Maher I would move that we deny the 673 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:42,130 demolition permit for the time being and that we referred 674 00:42:42,490 --> 00:42:47,500 this back to staff to enter into negotiations with the 675 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:53,600 owner to purchase the property restore the property and forever 676 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,690 leave it as a school house 677 00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:59,220 that's my motion Mr 678 00:42:59,220 --> 00:43:02,390 a second please 679 00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:04,240 that's a chance 680 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:09,520 this one will get a chance to chat 681 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,080 this is 682 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,690 with the message 683 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:17,990 June 2 yes and this is on the screen 684 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:20,450 yes course but 685 00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:23,380 thank you Mr mayor ... all right what do you 686 00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:25,070 want to wish to see it on the screen before 687 00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:30,400 you sure I'll wait okay just so we understand 688 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,350 this 689 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:38,270 yes 690 00:43:38,270 --> 00:43:41,260 it's okay just don't 691 00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:44,380 thank you 692 00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:46,530 the second ... will speak when it's on the board 693 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:57,430 and then 694 00:44:42,410 --> 00:44:51,000 this is 695 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,100 this is a 696 00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:01,290 status is to 697 00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:11,570 thank 698 00:45:25,570 --> 00:45:30,710 6 to stop 699 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:36,220 yes 700 00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:39,730 okay and then the comments not lifted the speakers catch 701 00:45:39,730 --> 00:45:43,050 a chance to second thank you 702 00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:44,670 Mister chair 703 00:45:44,670 --> 00:45:48,270 and I appreciate him over for this full 704 00:45:48,270 --> 00:45:52,410 this is an effort to preserve a former Jefferson school 705 00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:56,190 house now ... before makes for a common I'd thought 706 00:45:56,190 --> 00:46:00,420 to move also mentioned some up referring to staff so 707 00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:04,800 that they'll be opportune to come back ... but perhaps 708 00:46:04,890 --> 00:46:07,630 would that be in the view of the ball forward 709 00:46:07,630 --> 00:46:09,950 to capture in 710 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:12,320 C. 711 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,010 okay please 712 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:16,820 it would remove it because I hear the word of 713 00:46:16,850 --> 00:46:20,480 referral your for saying to staff to come back I 714 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,340 just like to see the wording there but I certainly 715 00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:25,520 support the 716 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,340 principal and the spirit office 717 00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:32,180 with with a move like a resolute okay 718 00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:33,700 okay 719 00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:37,280 so now I want to say number one I fully 720 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,240 concur with ... I agree a hundred percent of the 721 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:45,230 first dedicate ... if I can call you GM Mr 722 00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:48,000 president simply 723 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,010 I totally agree if you reverse gone it's gone 724 00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:54,510 I mean when I first moved into Richmond hill I 725 00:46:54,510 --> 00:47:00,110 remember used to be called Falwell and stopped you fall 726 00:47:00,110 --> 00:47:03,770 knocked out power some of you may remember white collar 727 00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:05,930 may not be the best thing you want to look 728 00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:08,070 into in the morning 729 00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:10,800 but I don't know why I still miss it because 730 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,670 it's gone it's gone it with dust weedy wreaths press 731 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:18,710 sense part of Richmond hill history in fact it might 732 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:22,170 be called all of us at that time right optional 733 00:47:22,570 --> 00:47:25,700 I'm food for support in preserving in particular in this 734 00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:29,760 case S. already a mention by him over ... so 735 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,220 this opportunity I believe the second dedicate our doctor Blake 736 00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:39,280 talking about yes after these contracts all this perhaps in 737 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,910 the future with as high rise with his tonsils whether 738 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:45,940 it may be and I think that actor Scott ... 739 00:47:46,210 --> 00:47:50,550 educational of thing full of 740 00:47:50,550 --> 00:47:54,050 the younger generation of young at heart about where we 741 00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:56,960 come from and so that we know the future and 742 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,790 I can send example I always like that 743 00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:02,520 politiker setting 744 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,800 Gibson house on young street and populate with what a 745 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,200 user now call North York civic centre and they might 746 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,120 have 747 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,910 concourse point of order 748 00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:18,310 right but my point is 749 00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:21,230 the use of a kitchen housed they maintain that given 750 00:48:21,230 --> 00:48:25,000 house and opened it as say some kind of educational 751 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,730 display purposes so for that purpose I'm support that this 752 00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:32,610 could be turned into as a public or see it 753 00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:37,190 be something up booting it back to of all original 754 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:40,960 purpose and dad of opportunity come back to console we 755 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,870 can deliberate gait so I ... I support that a 756 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:48,620 particularly looking at page fifty one of your report this 757 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:51,380 is precisely the spirit all three did not in this 758 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:54,750 decision of the heritage committee so I'm happy to support 759 00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:57,530 it and thank you all for the motion ... to 760 00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:00,390 ... by the way which are local councillor you should 761 00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:02,610 add a name to 762 00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:04,260 thank you 763 00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:06,790 so much 764 00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:10,700 good day this so 765 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:14,460 I have a party it'll put into school 766 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:16,340 I have a I have a group that was put 767 00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:18,070 into a school 768 00:49:18,070 --> 00:49:20,670 we visited the site 769 00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:25,370 we have met with a number of stakeholders 770 00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:27,040 clearing the owner 771 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,750 I would say you further what we wanna do is 772 00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:30,220 you want to try to preserve this to me to 773 00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:32,870 school yup me the H. fax system something else for 774 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:34,590 those that want to give an example of that this 775 00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:36,720 is possible 776 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,220 because the situation in this type of rendering it obsolete 777 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:41,720 possible 778 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,010 this motion would not do that I don't think that 779 00:49:44,010 --> 00:49:46,730 we should when we have people in our community hi 780 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:49,090 hi love the romanticism of 781 00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:51,570 but expect the school boarder private school to go in 782 00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:53,680 there is going to cost a lot of money 783 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,150 and I would like to have money for water and 784 00:49:55,150 --> 00:49:57,600 sewer so people don't have the sewer back up into 785 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,000 their homes are like people have garbage pickup and everything 786 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,300 elsewhere in the state already here in Richmond hill we 787 00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:05,530 have budget constraints when we have a party that is 788 00:50:05,530 --> 00:50:10,140 willing to protect the school the heritage the look and 789 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,500 make it work without spending two to four million dollars 790 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,270 of taxpayers money I guess a two that we have 791 00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:19,620 a housing affordability we have a gridlock we have high 792 00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:23,630 taxation here I think that the resources I love I 793 00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:26,030 absolutely want to take a schoolhouse 794 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:27,790 I think that this is a very important I think 795 00:50:27,790 --> 00:50:30,270 ... the majority of council will likely agree with us 796 00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:33,360 I think when you listen to the advice of the 797 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,950 stake holders including the 798 00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:38,840 Historical Society of saying what their objectives are one two 799 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,710 three 800 00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:43,420 this one to 3 is nice 801 00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:46,710 but we cannot keep purchasing and go beyond our scope 802 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:48,810 we have to look at priorities as a basic level 803 00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:52,010 government we can't just keep spending and doing things based 804 00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:56,840 upon a wish not a need we have dozens if 805 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,870 not hundreds of families today who are in harm's way 806 00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:02,960 because they are under stress because they have sewage in 807 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,960 their basements 808 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,420 that to me health and safety takes precedence over a 809 00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:13,620 wish of owning a building that we can't operate 810 00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:16,760 spent two billion dollars the candid post building for someone 811 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,770 else to do is nice but I don't believe it's 812 00:51:19,770 --> 00:51:22,610 value to what our job is here although I very 813 00:51:22,610 --> 00:51:24,750 much would like agree with that I think that the 814 00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:28,590 cost of doing this when we have other options that 815 00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:30,480 we know when we have people willing to do a 816 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,870 school and for those that ... I have engagements with 817 00:51:33,870 --> 00:51:36,870 some people in the audience and outside to move that 818 00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:40,210 school will likely crumble it to move it off site 819 00:51:40,210 --> 00:51:42,080 to move it on young street to move those wires 820 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,830 about three hundred thousand dollars so it's for us to 821 00:51:44,830 --> 00:51:47,100 say we want to convert this to go back to 822 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,430 give staff the responsibility to go in and negotiate to 823 00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:54,530 purchase a site to be used for something that's not 824 00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:57,610 going to add value when we have other options that 825 00:51:57,610 --> 00:52:01,280 we can say let's work with stakeholders to preserve our 826 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,220 history to keep the architecture to embrace it where it's 827 00:52:05,220 --> 00:52:07,990 going to be a showcase even the picture that was 828 00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:11,450 shown by the ... by one of the delegates shows 829 00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:14,300 that was people go by it gets lost well we 830 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,320 can actually enhance it and give you guys a visual 831 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,570 you guys haven't seen that this is possible 832 00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:23,120 maybe 833 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,520 this motion will kill that so I think it's great 834 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,870 that we all say we want to cater to a 835 00:52:27,870 --> 00:52:30,880 select few that one romanticism I'd rather focus on great 836 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,870 governance do what's right for the history of the site 837 00:52:34,450 --> 00:52:36,130 ... and go from there but also by the will 838 00:52:36,130 --> 00:52:38,350 of counsel and we'll go from there but I think 839 00:52:38,350 --> 00:52:40,580 this would be a mistake so I would say to 840 00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:42,820 that I would like to add an amendment if I 841 00:52:42,820 --> 00:52:44,510 can if maybe if you'd like to move it move 842 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:46,390 as a friendly amendment 843 00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:49,050 as opposed to give the direction to stuff to say 844 00:52:49,050 --> 00:52:53,000 that go and ... as it says here the feasibility 845 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,790 of purchasing the Jefferson school house which would absolutely destroy 846 00:52:57,820 --> 00:53:02,540 any possibility of any private investment whatsoever going into this 847 00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:04,390 I would say I would like to say go back 848 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:08,000 to stuff and engage as we already have because that 849 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,480 was the motion last council meeting when we engage with 850 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,090 staff on options for the site we had a working 851 00:53:16,090 --> 00:53:19,280 community this motion would not do that so I'd like 852 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,870 to ask mover says that being gauge back with staff 853 00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:26,170 to look at all options as for the delegation of 854 00:53:26,170 --> 00:53:31,590 historical societies three options as their preferred not exclusively saying 855 00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:35,920 that the city is going to purchase this building 856 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,550 so this doesn't happen 857 00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:41,780 yeah 858 00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:45,450 we were filming an invigilator wonderful individual touches I'm asking 859 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:48,410 what you're doing last month ... 860 00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:52,020 okay yes we can add something 861 00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:54,470 thank you Mister Merrett so just just to be clear 862 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:58,710 ... with councillor Munch is asking is that we don't 863 00:53:58,710 --> 00:54:01,740 restrict it to just the purchase of the property that 864 00:54:01,740 --> 00:54:04,780 we look at other options 865 00:54:04,780 --> 00:54:08,740 the I'm happy to I'm happy to make the amendments 866 00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:12,080 so that you know go along to get along 867 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,730 please I want everybody understand that 868 00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:18,760 we have been trying for years to work with this 869 00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:23,490 property owner that design came from him 870 00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:27,350 ... does that other iterations of how we can incorporate 871 00:54:28,090 --> 00:54:31,560 the school house into a bigger project these are all 872 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,760 wonderful options my fear is this 873 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,800 that if we do nothing if we don't act on 874 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,000 one of the options and I'm happy to make the 875 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,360 amendment ... that house is going to crumble and when 876 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640 it hits the ground in a pile of rubble it's 877 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,560 over we have to do something so I don't want 878 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,390 to just push this off into the future with with 879 00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:57,930 no action so I'm happy to add Mr Clark 880 00:54:57,930 --> 00:54:59,560 that 881 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,980 the manager of real estate 882 00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:06,170 and staff be directed 883 00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:09,280 to contact the owners of it as well as at 884 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,390 the end as well as to ... investigate options to 885 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:17,940 build I don't even know how you would word it 886 00:55:18,020 --> 00:55:19,180 I mean 887 00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:20,940 to preserve 888 00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:23,940 options to develop the set that's always available for the 889 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:27,810 owner and for anybody to go in and buy it 890 00:55:27,810 --> 00:55:31,520 another option is to preserve the schoolhouse 891 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,750 all right 892 00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:35,740 Chad I just want to say yes or no answer 893 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,860 at this point yes indisputable preserving the actor for the 894 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:43,160 schoolhouse 895 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,720 Tania 25 seconds 896 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,980 okay 897 00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:54,630 I still have 898 00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:56,580 4 speakers 899 00:55:56,580 --> 00:56:08,620 all wrapped up with change the ref 900 00:56:31,610 --> 00:56:40,370 okay there is 901 00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:44,030 okay 902 00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:51,330 okay this comes with emotion all right cancer west 903 00:56:51,330 --> 00:56:53,960 okay so were this differently minutes or on the main 904 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,650 motion right 905 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:59,130 we're not talking about the amendment no 906 00:56:59,130 --> 00:57:02,000 okay thank you okay so I I there are no 907 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,860 I mean I have agreed with a number of things 908 00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:06,250 have been said I've disagreed with the details of some 909 00:57:06,250 --> 00:57:08,800 of the things have been said but I think I 910 00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:11,080 the first thing that I think we're also saying is 911 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,740 that we do need to protect this property it is 912 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,100 abundantly clear to me that ... any great city that 913 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:19,710 you can think of in the world has one of 914 00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:21,780 the reasons it's great is because it has all these 915 00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:25,530 unique ... interesting and probably historic prop property is that 916 00:57:25,530 --> 00:57:28,770 it is ... preserved and if I mean I'm all 917 00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:30,550 go down the list I'm sure you have a list 918 00:57:31,060 --> 00:57:33,550 ... you know I've also been to seminars that you 919 00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:35,300 know there's three or four things that you do when 920 00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,000 you create a great city and one of them is 921 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,760 preserve your your uniqueness and your historic building so I 922 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,370 think that's clear and I think we're all singing from 923 00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:46,170 the same song sheet on that which is great ... 924 00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:49,400 the the the whole idea of in my mind from 925 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,230 anything I've learned that is the only way that we're 926 00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:55,340 really going to be able to save heritage buildings realistically 927 00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:58,870 is to have them be able to be repurposed and 928 00:57:58,870 --> 00:58:01,600 be reincorporated into something else and I think that is 929 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,830 by far with a question in my mind the number 930 00:58:03,830 --> 00:58:06,870 one way to go and Mr Blakey ... you did 931 00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:10,040 mention that cover notes that stop good example in Richmond 932 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,050 hill but if you go down to Toronto there's many 933 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,500 examples where an old building comes something new and it 934 00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:17,630 becomes a part of something new as well and I 935 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:21,000 think that's absolutely the formula that that's proven to be 936 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,240 a winner 937 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,450 so 938 00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:26,690 I think that the the problem I have two problems 939 00:58:26,690 --> 00:58:29,060 with this motion and it's only on see that I 940 00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:33,170 have the problem I don't think that ... we can't 941 00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:37,010 afford is a municipality to be buying any ... carriage 942 00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:39,520 building that needs to be bought and nor do I 943 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,580 think we should it's not a good value for the 944 00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:43,890 taxpayer because 945 00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:47,560 in a situation like this ... that the old building 946 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,870 will become a profitable venture for something new it's it's 947 00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:54,830 you know and the onus is on the owners unfortunately 948 00:58:54,830 --> 00:58:56,720 to them in the body with a historic building on 949 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,590 it the onus is on that the ... owner to 950 00:58:59,590 --> 00:59:01,520 deal with the property the way it is and if 951 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,190 there was a ravine in the middle of the property 952 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:05,100 they would have restrictions on what you could build in 953 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,580 the routine if there's a historic building there's a good 954 00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:10,650 possibility that there will be restrictions on what you can 955 00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:13,450 do because they start building the builders and developers are 956 00:59:13,450 --> 00:59:16,420 creative people and they can come up with creative designs 957 00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:19,030 I that's one example that comes to mind showed I've 958 00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:21,640 seen that actually and I think it shows that it 959 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,320 is possible if we restrict this also to being a 960 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,630 school house that goes against what I just said because 961 00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:32,900 you are freezing not only the building in time but 962 00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:36,020 you're also for using the use and that building they 963 00:59:36,020 --> 00:59:39,010 don't have one room schoolhouses anymore I mean that that 964 00:59:39,170 --> 00:59:43,700 that ... the model of education is long since gone 965 00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:48,050 and ... so allowing that school has to be calm 966 00:59:48,050 --> 00:59:51,050 whatever the market wants it to be calm is really 967 00:59:51,050 --> 00:59:55,030 important and if if we restrict what it can be 968 00:59:55,310 --> 00:59:57,590 we're really defeating the purpose of all of the stuff 969 00:59:57,590 --> 01:00:00,970 and frankly I believe were probably destined to fail in 970 01:00:00,970 --> 01:00:05,070 the situation ... hi I would be able to support 971 01:00:05,070 --> 01:00:08,210 see if we took out the part about looking at 972 01:00:08,210 --> 01:00:10,780 the feasibility of purchasing this the school has because I 973 01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:13,710 just don't think that's the answer ... I think the 974 01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:17,210 answer is in my mind is fairly simple we deny 975 01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:20,550 the permit application the demolition permit application which is in 976 01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:24,490 B. and ... we say to the owner and it 977 01:00:24,490 --> 01:00:27,210 will continue probably I would assume to say to the 978 01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:30,010 owner that we'll do everything we can to help that 979 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,400 building be incorporated into some other conceptual design and you 980 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,870 know will it be easy no but it will it 981 01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:39,720 could happen I've seen this happen in my world with 982 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,700 thirty five right street we had ... demolition application that 983 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:45,830 we work with the owner now we have this design 984 01:00:45,830 --> 01:00:49,200 we're gonna incorporate the ... the end dean one of 985 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,570 the Indian family homes into the lobby of this new 986 01:00:53,570 --> 01:00:55,730 development that's going to happen and it actually looks really 987 01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:59,390 great I I'm quite pleased with that design so ... 988 01:00:59,420 --> 01:01:01,970 I think that the the way to go about this 989 01:01:01,970 --> 01:01:04,810 is actually very simple ... I think a and B. 990 01:01:04,810 --> 01:01:07,440 are completely valid and I think that's what we should 991 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,990 do I think he would be fine if it if 992 01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:14,000 it didn't include the bother bothering to go down the 993 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,190 rabbit hole of ... the feasibility of purchasing it ... 994 01:01:18,740 --> 01:01:22,250 but I would say though that ... you know this 995 01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:25,050 is possible and it's been shown to be possible in 996 01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:29,020 many many situations and I think 997 01:01:29,020 --> 01:01:31,480 regard if we if we have approved a and B. 998 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,730 and not see I would absolutely go to our staff 999 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,290 first thing after this meeting and say you know what 1000 01:01:38,330 --> 01:01:40,030 go out there have a meeting with the guy if 1001 01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:42,390 you haven't already and I'm sure we have and make 1002 01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:45,020 sure we do everything in our power to to get 1003 01:01:45,020 --> 01:01:49,470 this done because working together collaboratively is definitely the way 1004 01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:52,500 to go here and it is possible so those are 1005 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:56,010 my comments ... when this comes time ... Mr mayor 1006 01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:59,090 I'd like a N. B. C. two B. twelve A. 1007 01:01:59,090 --> 01:02:00,700 M. B. could be one I guess but a and 1008 01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:06,250 B. maybe voted out together let's see separately 1009 01:02:06,250 --> 01:02:09,110 all right close the service 1010 01:02:09,110 --> 01:02:12,170 thank you Mr mayor thank you too ... the delegates 1011 01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:16,370 in order to staff who's worked tirelessly on this that's 1012 01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:22,430 true heritage Richmond hill and answered planning ... I agreed 1013 01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:25,260 to it to a certain degree with my seat mate 1014 01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:30,170 and fellow HRH ... at council a committee member state 1015 01:02:30,170 --> 01:02:32,770 councillor David west ... 1016 01:02:32,770 --> 01:02:36,180 a a and B. of this motion without question the 1017 01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:39,130 permit the demolition permit must be denied and we are 1018 01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:41,080 in it we are in the middle of a ticking 1019 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,400 clock and that's denial of demo permit must come to 1020 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,790 day so there's no question about that ... what I 1021 01:02:48,790 --> 01:02:52,850 do find curious is that this this this motion is 1022 01:02:52,850 --> 01:02:55,190 very similar to the one that was supposed to say 1023 01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:58,710 council a few weeks ago by myself and if I 1024 01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:01,030 want I want to I want to draw people's attention 1025 01:03:01,030 --> 01:03:04,810 to out of the river the revised it M. agenda 1026 01:03:05,530 --> 01:03:08,740 on page six fiftieths one seventy five on page fifty 1027 01:03:08,740 --> 01:03:11,190 one of one seventy five when you look at the 1028 01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:15,050 main motion as amended moved by the vice chair of 1029 01:03:15,050 --> 01:03:19,720 HRH March Andre recommendation one that heritage which were your 1030 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,790 committee recommends to counsel that the ... staff report be 1031 01:03:24,790 --> 01:03:29,410 received that the demolition be denied that the city creek 1032 01:03:29,410 --> 01:03:32,550 place it publishes in the local newspaper and then what 1033 01:03:32,550 --> 01:03:34,950 was added day was that the manager of realistic be 1034 01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:38,920 directed to contact the landowner to begin discussions to investigate 1035 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,550 the feasibility of purchasing the for much of the schoolhouse 1036 01:03:42,010 --> 01:03:45,480 ... and then there was an E. so when this 1037 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,200 came to council a few weeks ago am I I 1038 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,380 also I made a motion that day D. should be 1039 01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:56,960 changed because should be amended because it was certain restrictions 1040 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,650 that we face as a public entity ... 1041 01:04:01,650 --> 01:04:04,670 stick to the office today not talk about last counts 1042 01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:07,070 me I'm speaking to the motion 1043 01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:12,170 okay you are here reciting what okay so when you 1044 01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:13,430 go to 1045 01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:16,550 fine I'll I will I will discuss that no further 1046 01:04:16,550 --> 01:04:18,840 it is in our agenda 1047 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,090 M. 1048 01:04:20,090 --> 01:04:22,620 so through you Mister mayor I need to go to 1049 01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:26,990 a commissioner of planning commission of corn through the discussions 1050 01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:30,760 that I have had with you regarding this matter if 1051 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,690 you look at sea there there were you explain to 1052 01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:39,820 me that there were specific policy this policy mechanisms that 1053 01:04:39,820 --> 01:04:42,880 we have to follow in order to in order to 1054 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,880 purchase ... this asset as to you Mister may I'd 1055 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,190 like commission according to please explain that again to us 1056 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:55,140 because I believe it's germane 1057 01:04:55,140 --> 01:05:00,240 three Mister mayor ... the typical policy ... process to 1058 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,210 purchase a heritage property would be that we would initiate 1059 01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:08,510 the discussions prior to an application for the demolition however 1060 01:05:08,540 --> 01:05:11,960 I do understand the intent of council and ... I 1061 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,730 think up by having option for paragraph C. in the 1062 01:05:14,730 --> 01:05:21,050 resolution reinforces council's intent to the owner and staff understand 1063 01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:23,540 ... what we can look at and we will be 1064 01:05:23,540 --> 01:05:27,860 presenting options with no ... premonition here as to what 1065 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,550 the outcome may be ... but certainly purchasing is still 1066 01:05:31,550 --> 01:05:34,260 an option whether or not it's a probability remains to 1067 01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:37,650 be seen I will certainly look into planning solution if 1068 01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:39,990 at all viable 1069 01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:42,910 thank you commissioner so just just to confirm to you 1070 01:05:42,910 --> 01:05:46,580 Mr mayor you're saying that the wording of C. in 1071 01:05:46,580 --> 01:05:51,740 your opinion with regards to policy M. is is ... 1072 01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:54,010 is applicables 1073 01:05:54,010 --> 01:05:57,410 3 miss Meredith does not cause a sergeant 1074 01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:59,490 thank you and I needed to I needed to to 1075 01:05:59,490 --> 01:06:03,800 ... to make sure about that so I absolutely support 1076 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,320 a and B. I do have a problem with C. 1077 01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:10,890 I. I feel that as as the council was set 1078 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,740 that you buy 1079 01:06:14,740 --> 01:06:20,000 by microscope that the use of this back into another 1080 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,670 school house well that would be excellent I believe as 1081 01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:28,010 well all kinds of of ... initiative should be looked 1082 01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:32,220 at once this is purchased and it comes to us 1083 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,700 how can we repurpose this how can this be repurposed 1084 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:38,970 by anybody who wishes to come in and and get 1085 01:06:38,970 --> 01:06:42,100 the house in in the little house so I can't 1086 01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:46,880 support C. as is written I would respectfully suggest to 1087 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,190 the mover of the motion and the second act that 1088 01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:52,630 perhaps some further discussion be had about that those few 1089 01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:55,990 words for the purpose on converting the building back into 1090 01:06:56,020 --> 01:07:01,600 a school house be amended to be far more brought 1091 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,010 because thank you to be formal board because as it 1092 01:07:05,010 --> 01:07:08,370 stands right now I believe we are we are we 1093 01:07:08,370 --> 01:07:10,790 are microscope in this and we should not be doing 1094 01:07:10,790 --> 01:07:14,390 this as counsel away said it could actually failed because 1095 01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:17,570 of that thank you 1096 01:07:17,570 --> 01:07:21,020 because the bears 1097 01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:24,140 thank you Mr mayor 1098 01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:26,270 for those who don't know I I sat for a 1099 01:07:26,270 --> 01:07:30,310 number of my first couple terms on heritage Richmond hill 1100 01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:32,580 ... and and this is not the first time in 1101 01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:35,770 this building has has come up ... and if in 1102 01:07:35,770 --> 01:07:41,020 fact many years ago with previous councils I suggested 1103 01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:43,830 nothing is gonna happen 1104 01:07:43,830 --> 01:07:48,730 unless the council buys it nothing will happen no one 1105 01:07:48,730 --> 01:07:53,380 else has those deep pockets to just throw good money 1106 01:07:53,380 --> 01:07:57,430 away to keep the building alive 1107 01:07:57,430 --> 01:08:01,100 counter the Dabo said we're not buying it 1108 01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:03,360 how we gonna live up to the scrutiny of the 1109 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,950 the taxpayers by spending that kind of money and I 1110 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:09,850 should for those you don't know the property is no 1111 01:08:09,850 --> 01:08:14,030 running water the property has no sewer connection 1112 01:08:14,030 --> 01:08:17,600 the property doesn't even have appropriate zoning for the current 1113 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,120 uses for for years 1114 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,070 no foundation for you as a brick building like that 1115 01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:26,460 would not have had the day would have built on 1116 01:08:26,460 --> 01:08:30,470 the the soil for years we've worked with previous owners 1117 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:33,730 and current owners to look the other way on zoning 1118 01:08:33,730 --> 01:08:38,420 matters to allow what ever used could possibly come into 1119 01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:41,280 the building to keep the building alive because we all 1120 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,500 know 1121 01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:44,610 an empty building 1122 01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:48,380 deteriorate quicker but the building is being used so for 1123 01:08:48,380 --> 01:08:52,410 years and years and years multiple councils have tried with 1124 01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:57,200 previous owners and current owners to try to get something 1125 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,160 at there has been attempts by previous and current owners 1126 01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:05,750 to put applications in 1127 01:09:05,750 --> 01:09:11,400 but to no avail because my opinion 1128 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,990 when they finally start looking at the financials of the 1129 01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:16,080 whole thing 1130 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,060 the feasibility dies again 1131 01:09:19,060 --> 01:09:22,800 because I've been more than willing over the years two 1132 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,160 okay fine we're gonna lose most of the building but 1133 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,990 let's rebuild the facade on the new building 1134 01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:34,750 let's move the building on the property and none of 1135 01:09:34,750 --> 01:09:39,640 those have come to fruition 1136 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,140 and and I hate to say this because I I'm 1137 01:09:43,330 --> 01:09:46,730 I'm fearful to offend the group that is here 1138 01:09:46,730 --> 01:09:49,390 but there's limited public interest 1139 01:09:49,390 --> 01:09:53,620 this is being in the papers over the years a 1140 01:09:53,620 --> 01:09:57,770 number of times ... I received one phone call 1141 01:09:57,770 --> 01:10:01,010 from a resident in my ward and we spoke of 1142 01:10:01,010 --> 01:10:03,520 it we spoke of the issues and we left with 1143 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,280 the yeah what do we do 1144 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,210 we don't at this point seem to have a willing 1145 01:10:08,210 --> 01:10:10,990 owner to say look at will spend whatever we got 1146 01:10:10,990 --> 01:10:14,360 to spend we get it there hasn't been a a 1147 01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:17,730 a a a go fund me or crowd sourcing of 1148 01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:20,510 the residents saying well let's see if we can't make 1149 01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:24,470 up the difference so the owner can actually preserve it 1150 01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:27,440 within a project 1151 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:28,650 well 1152 01:10:28,650 --> 01:10:31,880 I have not received a mandate from my residence to 1153 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,690 spend taxpayers money 1154 01:10:34,690 --> 01:10:38,980 on cleaning up every old historic building 1155 01:10:38,980 --> 01:10:42,380 encounters in the past have 1156 01:10:42,380 --> 01:10:44,190 and I look at some of those buildings now and 1157 01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:46,650 the other great buildings but they're not living up to 1158 01:10:46,650 --> 01:10:49,830 their potential and we're struggling now is a council what 1159 01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:52,750 do we do with them how do we incorporate them 1160 01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:56,480 into future use how do we keep the holding economical 1161 01:10:56,810 --> 01:10:59,920 so I'm glad that it's the C. has been taken 1162 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,380 out or not taking up what has been separated I 1163 01:11:03,380 --> 01:11:07,460 cannot support see in any way shape or form if 1164 01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:10,620 there is a ... a private group that wants to 1165 01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:13,600 buy the property and restore the whole thing of course 1166 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:19,260 the municipality will bend over backwards to facilitate that 1167 01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:22,110 but for us to put our money to it I 1168 01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:26,310 I can't support that at all thank you Mr mayor 1169 01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:28,700 thank you custody of 1170 01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:30,870 he was the mayor and 1171 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:33,810 I'm in full support of ... on preserving the Jefferson 1172 01:11:33,810 --> 01:11:36,090 school house so a and B. I don't think anybody 1173 01:11:36,090 --> 01:11:38,820 has any problem here's what I'm hearing is it's pretty 1174 01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:41,460 obvious that we're on the same page we all want 1175 01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:43,800 to be sort of the ... Jefferson schoolhouse in terms 1176 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,970 of ... see ... I'm a bit confused about the 1177 01:11:48,970 --> 01:11:52,990 motion because we said okay we explore tentative options and 1178 01:11:52,990 --> 01:11:56,010 also at the same time we are asking 1179 01:11:56,010 --> 01:11:59,320 the feasibility of purchasing it and converting it back to 1180 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,000 a schoolhouse so is either like we talking about the 1181 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,140 same thing over you with conflict in each other ... 1182 01:12:06,170 --> 01:12:09,340 what I'm suggesting to you move a motion is you 1183 01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:11,450 know maybe we should 1184 01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:15,320 first explore the alternative options to preserve the Jefferson school 1185 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,430 house maybe you can act including the feasibility of pursing 1186 01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:24,410 the purchasing the former ... schoolhouse or converting it back 1187 01:12:24,460 --> 01:12:28,020 into the schoolhouse but but now I'll see is is 1188 01:12:28,050 --> 01:12:31,550 is a bit I don't know ... about the residents 1189 01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:34,160 here but I'm a bit confused because with every by 1190 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,320 it but we also look at different options so I 1191 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,770 think we should just look for options if you like 1192 01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:43,290 it you can including you know purchasing purchasing the ... 1193 01:12:43,290 --> 01:12:47,230 the schoolhouse and converting it back into school house so 1194 01:12:47,230 --> 01:12:49,740 is my suggestions the mover marched on to the motion 1195 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,320 although it will make ... you know everybody covered because 1196 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,340 I I want it that the United need counseling as 1197 01:12:56,340 --> 01:12:57,990 well 1198 01:12:57,990 --> 01:13:02,300 thank you estimate as Mayacamas and also ... sorry I 1199 01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:05,650 also because ... I don't know because we live A. 1200 01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:08,170 B. C. here but when I look when when when 1201 01:13:08,170 --> 01:13:10,750 I look at the ... the stock recommendations we also 1202 01:13:10,750 --> 01:13:13,630 have a B. C. D. U. so we missing a 1203 01:13:13,630 --> 01:13:16,970 which is to receive the staff report and E. which 1204 01:13:16,970 --> 01:13:21,880 is the ... the supplemental information ... ... provided by 1205 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,560 toxic study Kelly to be received so I don't know 1206 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,710 if we need to add those in there to make 1207 01:13:27,710 --> 01:13:30,940 the motion you know more complete so that's just my 1208 01:13:30,940 --> 01:13:33,520 comments thank you Mr mayor yeah 1209 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,500 ... I have some comments to denote who turned to 1210 01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:40,340 the clerk it says be received is that required we're 1211 01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:43,730 dealing with it we've got a motion on so desperate 1212 01:13:43,730 --> 01:13:44,730 for 1213 01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:48,150 all right ... my comments are ... simply I I 1214 01:13:48,270 --> 01:13:49,890 I 1215 01:13:49,890 --> 01:13:51,790 I'm in favor of C. the way it is ... 1216 01:13:51,790 --> 01:13:54,550 because I read into it that we contact the landowner 1217 01:13:54,910 --> 01:13:59,290 about the feasibility of purchasing as well as exploring the 1218 01:13:59,290 --> 01:14:04,830 alternative options to preserve the Jeff the Jefferson school house 1219 01:14:04,830 --> 01:14:08,030 and when we do go back to ... thirteen point 1220 01:14:08,030 --> 01:14:10,570 four which is the one that we're dealing with now 1221 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,270 our motion the reason we're here today was the motion 1222 01:14:13,630 --> 01:14:18,160 said that we deferred it ... to permit consultations on 1223 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,720 the future of the Jefferson school so I think we've 1224 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,140 captured it all here and I have no problem in 1225 01:14:25,140 --> 01:14:28,360 in the supporting this motion 1226 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:33,530 to observe probably 1227 01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:35,300 go ahead 1228 01:14:35,300 --> 01:14:37,860 thank you Mr mayor so 1229 01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:43,120 we've we've heard a lot of comments and 1230 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,410 end up what I wanted to say Mr America is 1231 01:14:46,410 --> 01:14:48,710 that 1232 01:14:48,710 --> 01:14:54,910 if we simply deny the demolition app application and and 1233 01:14:54,910 --> 01:14:57,380 don't put a CD in their 1234 01:14:57,380 --> 01:15:02,230 everything stays status quo and the status quo sadly is 1235 01:15:02,230 --> 01:15:05,970 that that building continues to deteriorate 1236 01:15:05,970 --> 01:15:08,010 and when it falls 1237 01:15:08,010 --> 01:15:10,110 when it falls 1238 01:15:10,110 --> 01:15:14,610 the hardship that the current owner is going through 1239 01:15:14,610 --> 01:15:18,120 will not allow him 1240 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,820 to restore that building 1241 01:15:21,820 --> 01:15:26,070 then more difficult decisions will have to be made again 1242 01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:28,860 who's going to pay for the restoration of that building 1243 01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:32,320 what will the restoration look like will it be the 1244 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,590 old Jefferson schools will we recognize it as the old 1245 01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:37,490 jobs schools 1246 01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:40,880 and so we have to be very careful how we 1247 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,290 cast our votes today because my fear is and my 1248 01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:47,490 prediction is 1249 01:15:47,490 --> 01:15:51,810 this like many other heritage properties in Richmond hill and 1250 01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:55,470 we have a few that are in the radar right 1251 01:15:55,470 --> 01:15:59,280 now that are unsafe 1252 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,470 M. one they're unsafe we now this council will be 1253 01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:07,110 forced with the decision between safety to the community and 1254 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:09,660 preserving heritage 1255 01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:12,690 and the liability thank you councilman and the liability that 1256 01:16:12,690 --> 01:16:16,250 goes along with it and sadly I believe it's my 1257 01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:21,900 opinion that if workforce between the choice of the heritage 1258 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:25,160 versus the safety safety will win 1259 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:30,730 and the staff in the building department may recommend demolition 1260 01:16:30,730 --> 01:16:34,720 of the property for public safety and now we enter 1261 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,720 into very very complicated legal process 1262 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,320 and once we go down that rabbit hole we're not 1263 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,120 coming back from the 1264 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,520 so 1265 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,520 I want to be clear we need to do something 1266 01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:51,300 other than just deny and that's why I did see 1267 01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:55,160 I don't know if the residents of Richmond hill are 1268 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,770 going to back us other than the forty one signature 1269 01:16:59,770 --> 01:17:03,550 petition that you presented to us thirty five of which 1270 01:17:03,550 --> 01:17:06,950 lived in Richmond hello five which did not thirty six 1271 01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:10,440 I think it is ... but other than that we 1272 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:13,890 need the support of the community if we don't have 1273 01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:16,700 the support of the community then this council may decide 1274 01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:18,510 not to purchase 1275 01:17:18,510 --> 01:17:22,190 the other options to explore alternatives really that's not the 1276 01:17:22,190 --> 01:17:26,530 mandate of the council or the city those options have 1277 01:17:26,770 --> 01:17:31,710 we spoken available counselor munches worked with this landowner I've 1278 01:17:31,710 --> 01:17:35,090 worked with this landowner I see members in the audience 1279 01:17:35,090 --> 01:17:38,360 who have considered buying this property I won't identify them 1280 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,860 to point them out but they wanted to buy this 1281 01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:45,070 property you do something like councilman showed everybody but it 1282 01:17:45,070 --> 01:17:49,600 didn't work so please let's support this and try to 1283 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,470 do something to preserve this because if we don't if 1284 01:17:53,470 --> 01:17:57,550 we just deny the application and forget about it 1285 01:17:57,550 --> 01:18:00,270 then sadly I think we're going to see a pile 1286 01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:03,490 of rubble there in short order those are my comments 1287 01:18:03,490 --> 01:18:07,220 Mr mayor thank you okay that is before us we 1288 01:18:07,220 --> 01:18:10,390 are going to deal with 1289 01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:15,790 a second round of the second round 1290 01:18:15,790 --> 01:18:19,390 I was wrapped up so it's a second 1291 01:18:19,390 --> 01:18:22,630 certainly go ahead thank you very much you should be 1292 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,030 upset thank you Mr mayor and ... thank you ... 1293 01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:28,370 ... ... 1294 01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:32,410 everyone for the input and I listened carefully to ... 1295 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,350 ... everyone my called saying and I think that I 1296 01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:40,370 find it a bit surprising ... somebody use the board 1297 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,600 shot ... 1298 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,820 confuse all I'm not confused at all all the only 1299 01:18:46,820 --> 01:18:50,540 thing that I can see what the reason being is 1300 01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:54,180 that please okay okay your comment should be about okay 1301 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,500 the motion right the motion before us look yeah that's 1302 01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,530 what I'm doing Mister mayor less by I'm calling you 1303 01:19:02,530 --> 01:19:05,140 from my peers but one thing in common is a 1304 01:19:05,140 --> 01:19:09,540 common thing here everyone helping speaking want to preserve it 1305 01:19:09,890 --> 01:19:14,000 the V. D. divergence size views all up what to 1306 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,960 do with it our necks but what we talk about 1307 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,430 we can see is that we are asking staff that's 1308 01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:24,940 why stress previously report back to council we are not 1309 01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:28,300 saying today go out and purchase it and pay acts 1310 01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:32,830 media dollars no look at all options offering stock to 1311 01:19:32,830 --> 01:19:36,780 come back and they'll report to council then the decision 1312 01:19:36,780 --> 01:19:40,190 is made so to suggest knowledge of whether we after 1313 01:19:40,190 --> 01:19:43,980 stepping into only one direction ... I have to be 1314 01:19:44,010 --> 01:19:49,160 ... respectfully disagree about it does see we pass that 1315 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,230 give the mandate to stop to look at all options 1316 01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:55,080 now the only restoration ... I half is what it 1317 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,240 in fact I would only for the use of schoolhouse 1318 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,290 but if the stock will come back I like this 1319 01:20:01,290 --> 01:20:03,830 sometimes issues are going to see so I'm stealing some 1320 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:07,130 pop off A. B. C. and I do echo the 1321 01:20:07,130 --> 01:20:10,360 same words as the movers saying refer you do nothing 1322 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,330 just denying it and I've seen in the past that's 1323 01:20:14,330 --> 01:20:18,210 something I'm afraid might happen that that may be too 1324 01:20:18,210 --> 01:20:23,130 late to save it thank you recently 1325 01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:27,190 okay let's let's move on to the auto sector 1326 01:20:27,190 --> 01:20:30,770 okay we are talking about this motion 1327 01:20:30,770 --> 01:20:32,800 not not 1328 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,500 I think of this motion 1329 01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:38,670 what you not each other okay 1330 01:20:38,670 --> 01:20:40,760 coach 1331 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,250 thank you Mr mayor our question to the commissioner of 1332 01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:47,520 planning 1333 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,180 we're not private planners 1334 01:20:51,180 --> 01:20:55,300 do we have the ability under the municipal act or 1335 01:20:55,300 --> 01:20:58,950 the planning act or any act to 1336 01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:04,030 preemptively create zoning for a property without an application from 1337 01:21:04,030 --> 01:21:08,340 the owner ... do we have the ability to to 1338 01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:12,870 market such property to the private sector without the owners 1339 01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:17,430 ... ability I'm just wondering what is it that we 1340 01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:20,870 can do as as admits a power need to explore 1341 01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:26,140 options what do you interpret that as meaning 1342 01:21:26,140 --> 01:21:27,970 3 Mister Maher 1343 01:21:27,970 --> 01:21:30,570 are you Mister bear 1344 01:21:30,570 --> 01:21:33,780 I interpret this is looking at all options to preserve 1345 01:21:33,780 --> 01:21:37,620 the building without use restrictions I don't I do not 1346 01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:42,190 see those words here at this time and ... certainly 1347 01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:45,970 to answer the broader question of council's authority ... this 1348 01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:49,270 Lister can correct me a council can rezone a property 1349 01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:52,950 at any time however that's certainly not the general practice 1350 01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:57,570 we we passed comprehensive bylaws or area specific bylaws but 1351 01:21:57,570 --> 01:22:02,190 generally not site specific bylaws without a development application for 1352 01:22:02,190 --> 01:22:05,200 that individual property by the owner 1353 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:09,530 the three Mister Merrett by denying this it maintains the 1354 01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:17,790 protection that it has under the Ontario heritage act 1355 01:22:17,790 --> 01:22:22,530 I'd like a bit more ... dialogue on the exploring 1356 01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:26,950 alternative options 1357 01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:29,940 are we a are we able as a municipality to 1358 01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:34,360 waive all fees for applications are we able to waive 1359 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,530 development charges so that something could be built here that 1360 01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:41,630 can't thus far be financially built here 1361 01:22:41,630 --> 01:22:43,320 trying to I'm just trying to for the for the 1362 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,310 betterment of residents understand what we can or can't do 1363 01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:49,290 it we don't have a willing owner that hasn't put 1364 01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:52,640 it a complete application and yet and previous owners haven't 1365 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,260 put in complete applications yet to bring it to the 1366 01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:58,860 point of counsel being able to approve 1367 01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:01,450 some use 1368 01:23:01,450 --> 01:23:04,210 three of us to actually we do have an active 1369 01:23:04,250 --> 01:23:08,650 development applications on file ... however the owner has chosen 1370 01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:12,590 not to pursue the finalization of those applications they've been 1371 01:23:12,590 --> 01:23:16,380 in effect for well probably three or four years now 1372 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:19,140 but they have been suspended at the owner's request the 1373 01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:22,750 past year or so ... if the option and further 1374 01:23:22,750 --> 01:23:27,570 discussions with the owner become but does become issues for 1375 01:23:27,570 --> 01:23:31,030 discussion points of discussion we can certainly report that out 1376 01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:34,410 and explore the feasibility if that is what it takes 1377 01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:36,800 to preserve the building but certainly that will be a 1378 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,560 decision of council has soup some date in the future 1379 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,850 when we report 1380 01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:44,970 so three Mister Maher so were you saying yes we 1381 01:23:44,970 --> 01:23:48,770 can waive development charges we can waive application fees we 1382 01:23:48,770 --> 01:23:49,970 can 1383 01:23:49,970 --> 01:23:54,830 fast track it so to save the building 1384 01:23:54,830 --> 01:23:58,460 for clarity Mr Maher three Mister mayor we will explore 1385 01:23:58,490 --> 01:24:03,220 any and all options with the owner Mister mayor off 1386 01:24:03,220 --> 01:24:05,800 to directed to the CEO that if the commissioners not 1387 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:08,760 able or not willing to answer the question 1388 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,360 city manager are we able to waive development charges permit 1389 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:18,700 fees and fast track an application in the spirit of 1390 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,060 saving the building 1391 01:24:22,060 --> 01:24:25,090 three Mister where there's ... things in there that I'm 1392 01:24:25,090 --> 01:24:27,210 not entirely sure if we have to do some research 1393 01:24:27,210 --> 01:24:29,390 in terms of making sure it's not going to sing 1394 01:24:29,390 --> 01:24:35,180 a specific ... ... developments monetarily however fast tracking is 1395 01:24:35,180 --> 01:24:38,180 certainly on the table we can certainly look at ... 1396 01:24:38,530 --> 01:24:44,020 how we can affect those changes ... and then put 1397 01:24:44,020 --> 01:24:47,360 a package together for this individual if that's if that's 1398 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,100 the desire of counsel I I again I specifically can't 1399 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:54,180 say might have to defer that to others a report 1400 01:24:54,180 --> 01:24:57,960 back on on the financial incentives we can provide is 1401 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:02,960 generally not allowed but ... ... there certain process things 1402 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,790 and timing things we can certainly do to ... ... 1403 01:25:05,850 --> 01:25:11,770 ... to facilitate a development that incorporates the building 1404 01:25:11,770 --> 01:25:13,900 would you be more comfortable going on camera to have 1405 01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:15,710 that discussion 1406 01:25:15,710 --> 01:25:18,430 because I I I've been here for fourteen years I've 1407 01:25:18,860 --> 01:25:22,830 received a number of pieces of advice from current staff 1408 01:25:22,830 --> 01:25:26,120 from previous staff when it comes to 1409 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,610 what you said bonus 1410 01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:31,820 but it now sounds like we're all not knowing or 1411 01:25:31,850 --> 01:25:33,790 not wanting to say anything 1412 01:25:33,790 --> 01:25:36,600 three American ... it's not a question of not willing 1413 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,650 to say it I I simply don't know ... whether 1414 01:25:40,650 --> 01:25:45,360 that financial tense can be provided for for up ... 1415 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,890 this use I know we can provide ... financial centers 1416 01:25:49,890 --> 01:25:53,590 through a convenient community improvement plan such as deferral DC 1417 01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:56,460 deferrals and application leaders and so on so it's in 1418 01:25:56,460 --> 01:25:59,870 the context of it another process and I'm not exactly 1419 01:25:59,870 --> 01:26:03,370 sure where this would fit I'm sure if that's the 1420 01:26:03,370 --> 01:26:05,680 desire of cancel we could try to figure something out 1421 01:26:05,770 --> 01:26:08,420 ... locals lined 1422 01:26:08,420 --> 01:26:11,190 thank you Mr mayor 1423 01:26:11,190 --> 01:26:14,770 all right the motion 1424 01:26:14,770 --> 01:26:18,820 the clerk question too Hey it's me 1425 01:26:18,820 --> 01:26:20,810 and then C. 7 1426 01:26:20,810 --> 01:26:22,730 according 1427 01:26:22,730 --> 01:26:28,760 Cordova yes Sir Wes 1428 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:37,350 this was three Mister mayor voting on because a and 1429 01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:43,210 B. of the main motion councilor Wes cancer chan 1430 01:26:43,210 --> 01:26:45,530 cancer cell events 1431 01:26:45,530 --> 01:26:46,890 yes 1432 01:26:46,890 --> 01:26:51,300 reach a local councillor Perrelli yes cancer Leo 1433 01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:56,160 cancer burrows yes reach a local culture to Paula yes 1434 01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:58,500 Kilcher munches 1435 01:26:58,500 --> 01:27:00,320 barrow yeah 1436 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:05,790 because a and B. of the motion carried unanimously 1437 01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:09,970 voting on clause see of the motion council west cancer 1438 01:27:09,970 --> 01:27:11,500 much 1439 01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:12,790 no 1440 01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:18,260 Qalqilia yes culture celebrates 1441 01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:22,150 yes with reservations to the text borough 1442 01:27:22,150 --> 01:27:23,270 yeah 1443 01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:27,150 reach a local culture to Paula yes reach a local 1444 01:27:27,150 --> 01:27:31,470 culture pearly yes Kilcher Verreaux's 1445 01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:35,050 cancer chan yes 1446 01:27:35,050 --> 01:27:38,180 Corsi of the motion carries only in the entire motion 1447 01:27:38,180 --> 01:27:41,660 is carried 1448 01:27:41,660 --> 01:27:50,620 thank you 1449 01:27:50,620 --> 01:27:53,810 the 1450 01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:58,550 yeah is 1451 01:27:58,550 --> 01:28:00,930 hi 1452 01:28:00,930 --> 01:28:05,750 2 delegations are 1453 01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:08,160 Jenny wants to delegate 1454 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,660 I'm sorry 1455 01:28:11,660 --> 01:28:14,640 she was on the 1456 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:21,200 this is the 1457 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:26,210 okay there is we have a 1458 01:28:26,210 --> 01:28:27,680 please 1459 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,790 1460 01:28:31,790 --> 01:28:36,420 for the plant 130 1461 01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:44,030 is the service call 1462 01:28:44,030 --> 01:28:48,190 mayors councillors and fellow residents my name is Carrie Tice 1463 01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:50,250 I am an engineer and I have been a resident 1464 01:28:50,250 --> 01:28:53,530 of Richmond hill for seventeen years I would like to 1465 01:28:53,530 --> 01:28:56,320 thank you for the opportunity to speak today about the 1466 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,560 very urgent issue of climate change 1467 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,310 I have read the staff report on Richmond hills climate 1468 01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:05,650 change actions and want to commend the city of Richmond 1469 01:29:05,650 --> 01:29:08,050 hill for all the great work they are doing and 1470 01:29:08,050 --> 01:29:09,940 continue to do 1471 01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:12,630 from this report it is evident that we all agree 1472 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,990 that climate change is an urgent issue so I'm not 1473 01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:18,990 going to talk about the impacts we're seeing worldwide and 1474 01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:21,810 even in our own backyards 1475 01:29:21,810 --> 01:29:24,540 I stood in front of you eight months ago in 1476 01:29:24,540 --> 01:29:28,020 support of the motion to declare a climate emergency brought 1477 01:29:28,020 --> 01:29:31,740 forward by coun Sir David west at that time you 1478 01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:34,460 may remember my neighbors and I had just formed the 1479 01:29:34,460 --> 01:29:38,120 climate group neighbors for the planet hoping to generate more 1480 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,270 public awareness in our community about the climate crisis our 1481 01:29:42,270 --> 01:29:46,260 goal is to empower individuals to reduce carbon emissions and 1482 01:29:46,260 --> 01:29:51,080 their individual lives in their community and Canada wide 1483 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,310 as you are aware we are not the only climate 1484 01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:56,670 group in our community there is also the blue dot 1485 01:29:57,060 --> 01:30:03,330 drawdown targeting climate change and our news group extinction rebellion 1486 01:30:03,330 --> 01:30:06,600 we work closely together with different approaches to tackle this 1487 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,970 issue different approaches but we all are all needed to 1488 01:30:10,970 --> 01:30:12,730 reach everyone 1489 01:30:12,730 --> 01:30:16,190 I would like to briefly summarize what has transpired since 1490 01:30:16,190 --> 01:30:18,820 we were here eight months ago 1491 01:30:18,820 --> 01:30:21,720 in July last year we held the first climate rally 1492 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,420 in Richmond hill 1493 01:30:23,420 --> 01:30:26,150 where 50 people attended 1494 01:30:26,150 --> 01:30:29,780 two months later in September we held another climate rally 1495 01:30:30,270 --> 01:30:35,150 this time two hundred and fifty people attended 1496 01:30:35,150 --> 01:30:37,950 people wanted to join us they were concerned about the 1497 01:30:37,950 --> 01:30:40,780 climate crisis and wanted to do something but they weren't 1498 01:30:40,780 --> 01:30:43,030 sure what they could do 1499 01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:45,860 at that point I realized that the climate strikes were 1500 01:30:45,860 --> 01:30:49,790 not enough so in October we started holding bi monthly 1501 01:30:49,790 --> 01:30:51,170 meetings 1502 01:30:51,170 --> 01:30:55,680 we are currently working on three initiatives transportation changing eating 1503 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,090 habits and food waste as they are some of the 1504 01:30:58,090 --> 01:31:01,540 biggest contributors to carbon emissions 1505 01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:04,310 a lot of people with great knowledge and expertise are 1506 01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:07,270 devoting their free time because they are worried about the 1507 01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:10,540 future we're leaving the next generations 1508 01:31:10,540 --> 01:31:14,150 students are also engaged my fifteen year old daughter has 1509 01:31:14,150 --> 01:31:18,050 started a climate action committee at her school ten students 1510 01:31:18,050 --> 01:31:21,530 came to her first meeting they want their voices heard 1511 01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:25,210 and to take their power back and change their future 1512 01:31:25,210 --> 01:31:29,380 I'm also hosting a community student climate action group some 1513 01:31:29,380 --> 01:31:32,480 students had expressed interest in our meetings I thought they 1514 01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:35,660 could benefit by coming together to collaborate and support each 1515 01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:39,520 other students from five different schools will be attending our 1516 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,080 first students get together this weekend 1517 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,840 this will be student led and I'm simply providing a 1518 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,650 space for them to meet and of course some snacks 1519 01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:52,640 I am impressed by the energy spirit and leadership in 1520 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,240 our community the residents of Richmond hill are concerned and 1521 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,490 stepping up to do what they can to act on 1522 01:31:59,490 --> 01:32:04,010 climate but there is only so much they can do 1523 01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:06,520 what I have learned these last eight months is that 1524 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,210 individual change is important 1525 01:32:09,210 --> 01:32:12,530 community engagement is even more important as it will lead 1526 01:32:12,530 --> 01:32:15,980 to bigger change but we will never get the reductions 1527 01:32:15,980 --> 01:32:20,520 in carbon emissions that are needed without systematic change 1528 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,380 we need change from all levels of government so I 1529 01:32:23,380 --> 01:32:27,060 am asking you our elected officials to see the climate 1530 01:32:27,060 --> 01:32:30,470 crisis for what it is and add urgency to the 1531 01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:33,170 great work you are already doing 1532 01:32:33,170 --> 01:32:36,860 the United nation IPCC report says we need to decrease 1533 01:32:36,860 --> 01:32:40,680 our emissions by forty five percent from the two thousand 1534 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,240 and five levels by twenty thirty and to get to 1535 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,080 net zero by twenty fifty 1536 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,540 I ask you are we doing enough and quickly enough 1537 01:32:50,590 --> 01:33:02,710 to meet these targets thank you 1538 01:33:02,710 --> 01:33:06,610 this feature 1539 01:33:06,610 --> 01:33:07,860 welcome 1540 01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:15,060 joining 1541 01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:17,400 the first action on climate change that we need to 1542 01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,060 take is to have an open and honest conversation about 1543 01:33:20,060 --> 01:33:23,140 it I'm relieved that we the people of Richmond hill 1544 01:33:23,140 --> 01:33:26,030 are in the process of doing this already so I 1545 01:33:26,030 --> 01:33:28,920 welcome this opportunity to acknowledge the staff report that has 1546 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,810 been prepared for consideration today since the June eleventh council 1547 01:33:32,810 --> 01:33:35,170 meeting when I spoke about why I felt a need 1548 01:33:35,170 --> 01:33:38,790 to declare climate emergency I've been involved in several initiatives 1549 01:33:38,910 --> 01:33:41,360 in the community in order to help move the conversation 1550 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,660 forward I helped organize the Richmond hill welcome to four 1551 01:33:44,660 --> 01:33:47,940 model was city councilor to Richmond hill so that he 1552 01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:51,050 could talk about his book called burning souls it's a 1553 01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:54,580 story about climate change with fictional characters based on real 1554 01:33:54,580 --> 01:33:58,830 science last October I prepared a series of community discussions 1555 01:33:59,050 --> 01:34:02,260 that was presented over three evenings the sessions will complement 1556 01:34:02,260 --> 01:34:04,400 one of one click to aligning climate three oh one 1557 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,250 and we're intended to have conversations with people of various 1558 01:34:08,250 --> 01:34:11,300 levels of understanding in September I took part in the 1559 01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:14,410 climate strike organized by Kerry and spoke about why I 1560 01:34:14,410 --> 01:34:17,790 was inspired by Greta sunburst the teenager from Sweden who 1561 01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:20,620 spoke at the United Nations at Davos and at the 1562 01:34:20,620 --> 01:34:24,420 twenty nineteen international climate conference with so many attending the 1563 01:34:24,420 --> 01:34:27,420 strike I was feeling hopeful that our community is ready 1564 01:34:27,420 --> 01:34:30,340 to talk about solutions I do feel however that we 1565 01:34:30,340 --> 01:34:33,700 need all levels of government to be actively involved to 1566 01:34:33,700 --> 01:34:36,800 help us reach even more people the staff report that 1567 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,520 has been prepared for the counselors is to give background 1568 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,310 and a summary of climate change actions possible at the 1569 01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:46,180 municipal level it takes into account the potential economic impact 1570 01:34:46,180 --> 01:34:50,210 of climate change as future extreme weather conditions become more 1571 01:34:50,210 --> 01:34:52,850 common I am pleased to say that I understand and 1572 01:34:52,850 --> 01:34:55,920 appreciate the content in this report because I've been doing 1573 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,130 quite a bit of reading about climate change for the 1574 01:34:58,130 --> 01:35:01,480 last few years I read books by scientists what psychologist 1575 01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:04,360 by communists and I've attended conferences and our mental seminars 1576 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,200 and election debates ten years ago there was very little 1577 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,550 mention of understanding of the climate crisis and now well 1578 01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:11,560 of course we hear it in the 1579 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,560 news all the time the wildfires in Ontario and British 1580 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:19,340 Columbia and California Siberia and of course Australia these fires 1581 01:35:19,340 --> 01:35:22,210 may not have been literally caused by climate change but 1582 01:35:22,210 --> 01:35:25,740 they have certainly been exacerbated by it we're fortunate here 1583 01:35:25,740 --> 01:35:28,070 in Richmond hill because we may not have the same 1584 01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:31,600 emergency situations as in other parts of the world but 1585 01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,810 our food sources and way of life will certainly be 1586 01:35:33,810 --> 01:35:36,770 affected by it Furthermore this is a problem that we 1587 01:35:36,770 --> 01:35:39,990 are partly responsible for because of our use of burning 1588 01:35:40,020 --> 01:35:43,330 natural gas and fuel in our everyday life we don't 1589 01:35:43,330 --> 01:35:45,450 need to be made to feel guilty though and the 1590 01:35:45,450 --> 01:35:48,450 worst thing we can do is start shaming others for 1591 01:35:48,450 --> 01:35:51,330 their lifestyle choices the best thing we can do is 1592 01:35:51,330 --> 01:35:54,030 decide what solutions we need to work on and get 1593 01:35:54,030 --> 01:35:57,680 down to business the staff report on climate change echoes 1594 01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,570 what we had to drive down Richmond hill drive in 1595 01:35:59,570 --> 01:36:03,650 Markham and drawdown Newmarket Aurora have already concluded and that 1596 01:36:03,650 --> 01:36:06,040 is that we need to concentrate our efforts on the 1597 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:10,080 three areas that have the greatest carbon footprint one transportation 1598 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,750 turnips to home heating and cooling three land choices there 1599 01:36:14,750 --> 01:36:16,200 are a hundred things that we could be doing that 1600 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,790 several of them were mentioned last Sunday in the climate 1601 01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:21,850 change symposium they had to do with food choices and 1602 01:36:21,850 --> 01:36:25,190 reducing food waste what we need from regional councils to 1603 01:36:25,190 --> 01:36:27,960 help promote these ideas even more in the community some 1604 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,190 of us citizens are using our own time and money 1605 01:36:30,190 --> 01:36:32,490 to achieve that which would be so much easier if 1606 01:36:32,490 --> 01:36:35,910 we had some creative financial backing and some ongoing verbal 1607 01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:38,990 acknowledgment I know the council and staff are busy with 1608 01:36:38,990 --> 01:36:41,760 so many things on your plate and I appreciate that 1609 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,700 you're taking more time on the subject I appreciate the 1610 01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:49,220 counselor Perrelli came to a community town hall and purchased 1611 01:36:49,220 --> 01:36:51,410 a couple of books on climate change so they could 1612 01:36:51,410 --> 01:36:54,910 learn more I appreciate getting to know Richmond hill staff 1613 01:36:54,910 --> 01:36:58,620 practically Maria Flores miles flooring press floor Julius Lindsay who 1614 01:36:58,620 --> 01:37:00,730 I know are putting their heart and soul into the 1615 01:37:00,730 --> 01:37:04,460 resilient regional program outreach and figuring out what we can 1616 01:37:04,460 --> 01:37:07,720 do better I look forward to their full community and 1617 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,800 energy emissions plan that is being prepared for release in 1618 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,280 twenty twenty one 1619 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,180 that some of you have taken the effort to purchase 1620 01:37:14,180 --> 01:37:17,080 books to learn more I appreciate that we have a 1621 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,370 couple of champions on council especially counselor west he's always 1622 01:37:20,370 --> 01:37:23,340 open to ideas and will be available to help us 1623 01:37:23,650 --> 01:37:25,490 I hope that each of you cancers will reach out 1624 01:37:25,490 --> 01:37:28,830 and have discussion in your wards and keep this conversation 1625 01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:31,320 going and I look forward to working with you on 1626 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,200 additional outreach to the community and truly appreciate that Richard 1627 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,870 hell's efforts will be part of the global solution to 1628 01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:46,050 climate change in the future excellent 1629 01:37:46,050 --> 01:37:56,750 Kathleen wall 1630 01:37:57,090 --> 01:38:01,670 hello ... I am representing bluedot Richmond hill reading a 1631 01:38:01,670 --> 01:38:05,700 submission by Cheryl do and asking my colleague who regret 1632 01:38:05,700 --> 01:38:08,370 she was not able to attend today 1633 01:38:08,370 --> 01:38:11,020 we are all aware of the global threats we face 1634 01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:15,450 due to climate change well Richmond hell be ready 1635 01:38:15,450 --> 01:38:18,880 increased awareness and concern for the climate crisis was evident 1636 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,420 during the federal election and Richmond hill is reflected in 1637 01:38:22,420 --> 01:38:25,050 the number of environmental groups that have formed over the 1638 01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:29,450 past few years and Kerry listed those groups for you 1639 01:38:29,450 --> 01:38:32,860 Richmond hill blue dot was established five years ago over 1640 01:38:32,860 --> 01:38:35,290 this time we work with the city on a variety 1641 01:38:35,290 --> 01:38:38,970 of initiatives providing our group first hand knowledge of the 1642 01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:43,240 dedication and expertise of the Richmond hill staff and details 1643 01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:48,250 of their environmental programs the report provided by council outlines 1644 01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:50,920 much of the excellent work being done as it relates 1645 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,390 to climate change and the reduction of greenhouse gases or 1646 01:38:54,390 --> 01:39:00,420 GHGs as mentioned in the reports municipalities have direct or 1647 01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:05,450 indirect control over sixty percent of Ontario's GHG emissions as 1648 01:39:05,450 --> 01:39:09,280 they plan and regulate growth and development along with transportation 1649 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:14,350 systems and networks it stands to reason to prioritize GHGs 1650 01:39:14,350 --> 01:39:18,290 and energy since it impacts so many areas of climate 1651 01:39:18,290 --> 01:39:22,810 concerns to address climate change it would benefit the municipality 1652 01:39:22,810 --> 01:39:26,530 to review their policies on transportation buildings and land use 1653 01:39:26,830 --> 01:39:30,460 through a climate plans we noticed that much of the 1654 01:39:30,460 --> 01:39:34,370 staff work is ongoing data is being collected conclusions drawn 1655 01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:39,420 additional time is required to drive effective policy recommendations it 1656 01:39:39,420 --> 01:39:43,470 may be beneficial to have expectations and targets identified over 1657 01:39:43,470 --> 01:39:47,430 the short medium and long term wise conclusions are made 1658 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:51,010 it's anticipated that actions will be recommended 1659 01:39:51,010 --> 01:39:54,750 leading by example is always favorable and the city should 1660 01:39:54,750 --> 01:39:58,350 consider an internal audit if this is not already under 1661 01:39:58,350 --> 01:40:00,080 way to see what I'm 1662 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,690 Clinton savings can be made at the city level bluedot 1663 01:40:03,690 --> 01:40:08,010 suggested staff address some of the limitations are facing especially 1664 01:40:08,010 --> 01:40:11,160 as it relates to transportation and being a multi tiered 1665 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,970 municipality but there may be others we believe it would 1666 01:40:14,970 --> 01:40:19,940 be beneficial to create or strengthen alliances with other York 1667 01:40:19,940 --> 01:40:24,660 regional municipalities and the region to address transportation issues as 1668 01:40:24,660 --> 01:40:28,810 they relate to emissions is encouraging to see stuff reaching 1669 01:40:28,810 --> 01:40:32,060 out to organizations and community groups to capitalize on their 1670 01:40:32,060 --> 01:40:37,060 expertise we suggested to be continued and expanded with limited 1671 01:40:37,060 --> 01:40:41,100 resources it's important to forge strong alliances in order for 1672 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:44,080 Richmond hill to be a leader cancel me council needs 1673 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,190 to provide staff with the leeway to research innovative ideas 1674 01:40:48,450 --> 01:40:52,620 to current and upcoming climate concerns they need the opportunity 1675 01:40:52,710 --> 01:40:57,370 to access leading edge technology and solutions including those that 1676 01:40:57,370 --> 01:41:01,380 can be found with collaborative organizations such as the Ellen 1677 01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:06,130 macarthur foundation bluedot has recommended York region participate with this 1678 01:41:06,130 --> 01:41:09,420 group and the region is reviewing the feasibility of that 1679 01:41:09,420 --> 01:41:13,980 through regional council as you know our neighbours Newmarket Aurora 1680 01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:17,610 and Toronto as well as hundreds of other municipalities have 1681 01:41:17,610 --> 01:41:21,140 declared a climate emergency the city of Toronto has been 1682 01:41:21,140 --> 01:41:25,660 very proactive by adopting many actionable initiatives as you can 1683 01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:28,490 see listed and Cheryl submission 1684 01:41:28,490 --> 01:41:33,080 business opportunities existing climate solutions found in the building industry 1685 01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:38,540 infrastructure clean technology and other mitigating measures often these solutions 1686 01:41:38,540 --> 01:41:41,270 find cost savings along the way such as when Richmond 1687 01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:46,340 hill changed to LED lighting legislative pharmacy may impose to 1688 01:41:46,340 --> 01:41:50,800 ration however funding and grant opportunities from other levels of 1689 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,880 government may be contingent on forward thinking initiatives we hope 1690 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,710 Christian health that's not who is out on these opportunities 1691 01:41:58,710 --> 01:42:01,120 we are all part of the climate change problem we 1692 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,310 need to be part of the solution through collective efforts 1693 01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:08,130 real change can occur to provide a sustainable healthy environment 1694 01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:11,590 this summer in a better position to affect change we 1695 01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:15,000 need your support to make this happen as Richmond hill 1696 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,990 counselors you've taken an oath of loyalty and honesty deep 1697 01:42:18,990 --> 01:42:22,190 blue serve to serve the community server right that citizens 1698 01:42:22,190 --> 01:42:25,760 of Richmond help there's no greater responsibility to ensure a 1699 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,230 safe and healthy climate 1700 01:42:28,230 --> 01:42:32,710 future generations depend on the decisions we make today historically 1701 01:42:32,710 --> 01:42:35,850 council has honored the residents through their commitment to protecting 1702 01:42:35,850 --> 01:42:38,530 our environment we hope you will continue to honor your 1703 01:42:38,530 --> 01:42:41,840 oath to Richmond hill residents recognize the good work that 1704 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,360 has been done by staff and set forth a motion 1705 01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,260 to enhance and build on their initiative for the good 1706 01:42:47,260 --> 01:42:50,570 of Richmond hill it is time for real action thank 1707 01:42:50,570 --> 01:42:56,180 you 1708 01:42:56,180 --> 01:42:59,670 thank you and this is 1709 01:42:59,670 --> 01:43:03,600 N. 13.8 so what 1710 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,770 I thank you Mr mayor thank you to the delegates 1711 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,000 ... thank you for all the work collectively the you're 1712 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,340 doing your groups ... I do not have to squeeze 1713 01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:14,150 this in in five minutes but I wanted to propose 1714 01:43:14,150 --> 01:43:16,960 a motion in a minute and I wanted before I 1715 01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:19,760 go through each individual detail of that the motion I 1716 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,420 want to talk a little bit about the purpose 1717 01:43:22,420 --> 01:43:25,400 ... I want to the first purpose of the motion 1718 01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:26,770 about two 1719 01:43:26,770 --> 01:43:30,020 put forward is to reinforce the past work of staff 1720 01:43:30,020 --> 01:43:32,870 and endorsed further actions but I also want to kind 1721 01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:36,320 of highlight some of the priorities that have been laid 1722 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,650 out in this excellent staff in front of us I 1723 01:43:39,650 --> 01:43:42,470 don't want the motion to show leadership in our community 1724 01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:44,890 and the wider community and I I think in doing 1725 01:43:44,890 --> 01:43:48,710 so I think it encourages other groups ... and to 1726 01:43:48,710 --> 01:43:52,540 do more things collaboratively ... in Richmond hill 1727 01:43:52,540 --> 01:43:55,510 ... I think in with climate change there's a million 1728 01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:57,990 things we need to do and ... we need to 1729 01:43:57,990 --> 01:43:59,840 go you know it they'll be a whole bunch of 1730 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,870 people that will be involved in doing those things 1731 01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:05,660 I think it's really important that we inventory and measure 1732 01:44:05,660 --> 01:44:08,430 our communities greenhouse gas emissions if it can't be measured 1733 01:44:08,430 --> 01:44:10,270 it can't be monitored 1734 01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:13,450 on a practical level I think that having a good 1735 01:44:13,450 --> 01:44:16,810 plan will help us leverage grant funding and that was 1736 01:44:16,810 --> 01:44:20,510 actually mentioned a couple of times by the delegates ... 1737 01:44:20,820 --> 01:44:22,690 and I think that you know on a also on 1738 01:44:22,690 --> 01:44:26,110 a practical level the ... you know reducing the effects 1739 01:44:26,110 --> 01:44:28,380 of climate change will help us as a municipality to 1740 01:44:28,380 --> 01:44:31,250 deal with our infrastructure so there are some very practical 1741 01:44:31,250 --> 01:44:33,960 reasons where I think we need to take action but 1742 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,470 I also think I mean most importantly that's the right 1743 01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:39,000 thing to do and ... it is it is urgent 1744 01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:40,970 whether we call it an emergency or whether we don't 1745 01:44:41,020 --> 01:44:43,320 still need to take action I think that's becoming more 1746 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,630 and more clear to Mr Clark if I could ask 1747 01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:49,860 you to put the motion up on the screen 1748 01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:52,060 ... I want to go to this really quickly get 1749 01:44:52,060 --> 01:44:54,240 it and I'm happy happy to take questions from my 1750 01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:58,350 colleagues so part a is simply just to ... knowledge 1751 01:44:58,350 --> 01:45:01,670 the appreciate with appreciation they worked staff is taken thus 1752 01:45:01,670 --> 01:45:03,730 far I think it's an excellent report and I think 1753 01:45:03,730 --> 01:45:05,950 we are doing quite a bit in our community and 1754 01:45:05,950 --> 01:45:07,990 I would encourage them and like council to be able 1755 01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:10,130 to encourage them to do so 1756 01:45:10,130 --> 01:45:13,640 ... part B. and all the sub sections deal with 1757 01:45:13,670 --> 01:45:17,060 ... their star city's corporate climate change framework in our 1758 01:45:17,060 --> 01:45:20,130 community emissions and energy plan 1759 01:45:20,130 --> 01:45:22,740 one is ... I think it's really important in this 1760 01:45:22,740 --> 01:45:25,080 was referenced in the staff report that we look at 1761 01:45:25,300 --> 01:45:28,460 a lot of our decisions going forward through a climate 1762 01:45:28,460 --> 01:45:31,340 lands almost any decision that we make it mean in 1763 01:45:31,340 --> 01:45:34,780 the municipality has some impact on a positive or negative 1764 01:45:34,780 --> 01:45:37,640 way on climate change and we need to start incorporating 1765 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,470 that in a more formal way in what we do 1766 01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:43,250 I really think it's important that we number two that 1767 01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,150 to take a greenhouse gas inventory for Richmond hill and 1768 01:45:46,150 --> 01:45:48,060 I believe that is part of the community and energy 1769 01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:51,150 emissions plan but I wanted highlighted here because I think 1770 01:45:51,150 --> 01:45:53,460 it's important but on top of that I think we 1771 01:45:53,460 --> 01:45:57,010 need to identify targets and time frames for greenhouse ... 1772 01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,360 gas emission reductions 1773 01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,900 number three ... I would like to explore our options 1774 01:46:02,900 --> 01:46:06,740 incentives to enable homeowners in the building in in the 1775 01:46:06,740 --> 01:46:10,250 homeowners for building an energy efficient it's C. retrofits to 1776 01:46:10,250 --> 01:46:13,680 conserve energy you save money and reduce greenhouse gas emissions 1777 01:46:14,050 --> 01:46:17,420 that is actually happening in that number of municipalities but 1778 01:46:17,420 --> 01:46:19,810 when I know for sure is Toronto right now and 1779 01:46:19,810 --> 01:46:22,900 they're they're wrapped I've started this program 1780 01:46:22,900 --> 01:46:25,760 ... I'd like to have ... options to promote private 1781 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,460 property resilience and we talked about this at the beginning 1782 01:46:28,460 --> 01:46:30,360 of the meeting where I'm you know we've had some 1783 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,540 flooding and we're going to continue to have some flooding 1784 01:46:32,830 --> 01:46:34,730 so I want to make sure that homeowners have all 1785 01:46:34,730 --> 01:46:37,540 of the resources that they they can't to safeguard their 1786 01:46:37,540 --> 01:46:39,430 homes 1787 01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:42,940 our number five one of the low hanging fruits I 1788 01:46:42,940 --> 01:46:45,350 think that we all have right now is the electrification 1789 01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:47,620 of our vehicles and I believe that there is an 1790 01:46:47,620 --> 01:46:51,750 opportunity to electrify some of the city's fleet as our 1791 01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:55,760 gas powered vehicles need to be replaced and also I 1792 01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,870 think with that comes the ... the need for us 1793 01:46:58,870 --> 01:47:01,820 to be talking about getting electric charging stations in as 1794 01:47:01,820 --> 01:47:06,080 many places as we can including our own ... 1795 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,280 it also in others 1796 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,270 I think we also need to impact and enhance the 1797 01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:14,570 capacity of our community to implement charter climate change actions 1798 01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:17,360 by developing a climate change community outreach to look at 1799 01:47:17,780 --> 01:47:20,890 and that's essentially to engage our community and to engage 1800 01:47:20,890 --> 01:47:23,240 some of the really good work that's already going on 1801 01:47:23,470 --> 01:47:25,750 in the community we have a lot to learn from 1802 01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:28,870 each other and I think this is very important ... 1803 01:47:28,930 --> 01:47:32,440 on that note a story a number seven we have 1804 01:47:32,440 --> 01:47:35,310 a sustainability metrics program which is I believe is a 1805 01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:37,930 work winning ... when we first came out but I 1806 01:47:37,930 --> 01:47:41,660 believe that there's probably also ... a reason for us 1807 01:47:41,660 --> 01:47:44,320 to be thinking about additional incentives that we can give 1808 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,550 to builders to make more ... sustainable design features to 1809 01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:52,880 support support our climate change mitigation ... I would like 1810 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,500 to stick explore the possibility of joining the global covenant 1811 01:47:55,500 --> 01:47:57,980 of mayors that was something that David Miller was talking 1812 01:47:57,980 --> 01:48:00,640 about it at clean air council meeting that we had 1813 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,530 recently and I think there's a lot of learning that 1814 01:48:02,530 --> 01:48:05,800 can be had from being in a network like that 1815 01:48:06,410 --> 01:48:07,910 and it's just great 1816 01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:11,040 minute more Mr mayor I would also like to investigate 1817 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,100 ... available grant funding because I think that there is 1818 01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:16,770 grant funding available and I believe that in the future 1819 01:48:16,770 --> 01:48:19,160 there will likely be more so 1820 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,710 so just to quickly wrap up ... I do want 1821 01:48:22,710 --> 01:48:25,810 to thank staff again for their excellent staff report I 1822 01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:29,070 think it's very comprehensive and I really appreciate it so 1823 01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:32,680 ... this is not all of the important actions that 1824 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,700 we're taking in the staff report they have been outlined 1825 01:48:34,700 --> 01:48:36,920 there actually are others but I think it's a great 1826 01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:40,170 start and I also believe that this motion if passed 1827 01:48:40,170 --> 01:48:43,050 will ... allow us to do more in the future 1828 01:48:43,050 --> 01:48:45,800 with it it can be added on to so that's 1829 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,080 my motion thank you 1830 01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,640 so it 1831 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,320 thank you Mr mayor I'll gladly second this motion and 1832 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,720 I want to thank cancel west for all the work 1833 01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,740 that he does in this regard and the discussions that 1834 01:48:58,740 --> 01:49:02,060 I had with him on an ongoing basis are immeasurable 1835 01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:05,340 I also want to command ... all the local groups 1836 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,490 the three that have stepped forward here today including other 1837 01:49:08,490 --> 01:49:12,720 organizations who also present here today who insure that climate 1838 01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:17,950 climate change climate emergency discussions are very prevalent in in 1839 01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,460 whatever they discussed to their ... in their meetings in 1840 01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:27,170 the two towards the congregations of women at these organizations 1841 01:49:27,170 --> 01:49:30,490 meet a most wanted thank staff the staff report that 1842 01:49:30,590 --> 01:49:35,380 was delivered to us is exceptional and ... for policy 1843 01:49:35,770 --> 01:49:39,310 from a policy wise discussion it is superb so thank 1844 01:49:39,310 --> 01:49:41,530 you very much to all who were involved into the 1845 01:49:41,530 --> 01:49:43,390 entire department 1846 01:49:43,390 --> 01:49:46,820 there can be no question that there is no greater 1847 01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:51,600 existential threat facing humanity and our planet today than a 1848 01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:58,810 climate emergency because of everything that climate change is imposing 1849 01:49:58,810 --> 01:50:01,180 on us 1850 01:50:01,180 --> 01:50:04,770 we as human beings most definitely need to take that 1851 01:50:04,770 --> 01:50:08,830 take into account what we do that could be an 1852 01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:14,080 exacerbating and dad making a making climate change move even 1853 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:18,140 faster than it should in any normal cycle of of 1854 01:50:18,140 --> 01:50:23,220 climate change at the earth has experienced for millennia 1855 01:50:23,220 --> 01:50:25,350 we are stewards of this earth and we certainly owe 1856 01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:27,750 it to the earth to do that the very least 1857 01:50:28,420 --> 01:50:32,410 ... I believe that this motion also brings us better 1858 01:50:32,410 --> 01:50:37,210 in line with other York regional municipalities and other municipalities 1859 01:50:37,210 --> 01:50:41,440 and regions in the greater Toronto Hamilton area M. where 1860 01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:46,620 they have also passed similar motions and declared climate emergencies 1861 01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:48,980 ... it's a pleasure to sit on the cleaning a 1862 01:50:48,980 --> 01:50:52,360 council with my two seat makes a concert chan and 1863 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,690 council west and we do very good work ... there 1864 01:50:55,690 --> 01:50:58,650 was well and with this group M. as we as 1865 01:50:58,650 --> 01:51:03,420 we begin to formulate even more ... more programs and 1866 01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:07,290 more at to find to find better ways for municipalities 1867 01:51:07,290 --> 01:51:10,590 to work ... with 1868 01:51:10,590 --> 01:51:13,890 with the residents and to work with staff in order 1869 01:51:13,890 --> 01:51:19,470 to effect greater change so ... I think every I 1870 01:51:19,470 --> 01:51:23,840 believe that every point in this motion is is is 1871 01:51:23,870 --> 01:51:28,610 necessary is germane and ... I want to thank again 1872 01:51:28,990 --> 01:51:32,540 councillor west and all the other community organizations for helping 1873 01:51:32,540 --> 01:51:36,190 us with this for today thank you 1874 01:51:36,190 --> 01:51:42,910 thank you fleur wrote 1875 01:51:42,910 --> 01:51:45,360 thank you Mister Merrick 1876 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:51,020 of the last time we approach this conversation 1877 01:51:51,020 --> 01:51:55,090 admittedly wasn't aware of all of the initiatives going on 1878 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:56,590 ... 1879 01:51:56,590 --> 01:52:00,470 the role of member of council is vast there's so 1880 01:52:00,470 --> 01:52:03,220 much that we need to know about so it helps 1881 01:52:03,540 --> 01:52:06,900 to go out to organizations as the ones that were 1882 01:52:07,480 --> 01:52:09,290 mentioned by Liz 1883 01:52:09,290 --> 01:52:14,090 and ... I did go out and ... surprisingly I 1884 01:52:14,090 --> 01:52:16,250 learned quite a bit 1885 01:52:16,250 --> 01:52:21,480 what I learned most Mister Merrett was that 1886 01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:25,220 there are things that we can do 1887 01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:29,050 not just as individuals but as a council 1888 01:52:29,050 --> 01:52:33,720 and I'm committed to doing those things and suggesting to 1889 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,040 counsel that we do those things 1890 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:42,190 I'm not prepared to declare climate emergency because 1891 01:52:42,190 --> 01:52:47,560 to me that's just words I'd rather have some action 1892 01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,890 one of the things Mr mayor that I learned at 1893 01:52:49,890 --> 01:52:52,020 that meeting were ... and I bought a couple of 1894 01:52:52,020 --> 01:52:55,110 books admittedly I haven't read them yet 1895 01:52:55,110 --> 01:52:57,060 I haven't had the time 1896 01:52:57,060 --> 01:53:00,840 but in speaking with the experts I learned something very 1897 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,840 interesting Mister Merrett 1898 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:04,730 that 1899 01:53:04,730 --> 01:53:07,570 ... my son for example lives in a condominium building 1900 01:53:07,870 --> 01:53:09,830 and he said that the you know I I'm concerned 1901 01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:14,640 about the environment I think we should transition to electric 1902 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:18,510 vehicles as opposed to gas powered vehicles I said fantastic 1903 01:53:18,510 --> 01:53:22,230 ideas so let's buy an electric car he said can't 1904 01:53:22,230 --> 01:53:25,480 that I said why is nowhere to charge up my 1905 01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:28,010 car and my condo building 1906 01:53:28,010 --> 01:53:29,750 I said what do you mean 1907 01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:32,520 because I can charge it up neither can the other 1908 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,720 six hundred people that live in the building 1909 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,870 so 1910 01:53:37,870 --> 01:53:39,980 maybe it's a little thing maybe it's a big thing 1911 01:53:39,980 --> 01:53:43,940 I don't know but my commitment Mr Maher 1912 01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:47,840 to the climate issue is that each and at now 1913 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:50,670 in the building code in the building code is already 1914 01:53:50,670 --> 01:53:54,800 been mandated that if you build a town house in 1915 01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,510 council Barroso correct me because he educated me on this 1916 01:53:58,100 --> 01:54:01,390 ... if I make a mistake please jump in ... 1917 01:54:01,510 --> 01:54:04,390 that in the building code if you build a single 1918 01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:08,710 family a semi or town house it's mandated that you 1919 01:54:08,710 --> 01:54:16,430 must have one electric charging station infrastructure built at 1920 01:54:16,430 --> 01:54:21,610 but not nothing exists for highrise development 1921 01:54:21,610 --> 01:54:25,850 so my commitment is and I've spoken to all the 1922 01:54:25,850 --> 01:54:29,920 applicants that have applications in right now for any mid 1923 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,500 rise or high rise applications that they will not get 1924 01:54:33,500 --> 01:54:40,330 my support unless they provide infrastructure for each and every 1925 01:54:40,330 --> 01:54:44,490 parking space to have the infrastructure to put in an 1926 01:54:44,490 --> 01:54:47,620 electric charging station for the vehicles 1927 01:54:47,620 --> 01:54:50,920 because these buildings that are being built we'll be here 1928 01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,000 for a hundred years 1929 01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,150 and if they don't have the charging stations now or 1930 01:54:57,150 --> 01:55:01,580 the infrastructure for it then it's incumbent upon the building 1931 01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:07,610 ... corporation that was formed later to retrofit it at 1932 01:55:07,610 --> 01:55:10,880 an even higher cost 1933 01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,810 and we don't need to do that so my commitment 1934 01:55:13,810 --> 01:55:16,920 is moving forward every application and I hope my council 1935 01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:21,140 colleagues support me when those applications come forward to make 1936 01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:24,820 sure that each and every parking space has the infrastructure 1937 01:55:24,820 --> 01:55:26,880 for electric vehicles 1938 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,440 so ... yes there's a lot of things we can 1939 01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:32,330 do these are some of them my question to you 1940 01:55:32,330 --> 01:55:37,060 Mr mayor is this these are all wonderful ideas presented 1941 01:55:37,060 --> 01:55:38,960 by councillor west 1942 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:43,570 and my question is what will be the impact on 1943 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,390 a staff resources for example timing to do this and 1944 01:55:48,420 --> 01:55:51,740 do we need to bring this up at a budget 1945 01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,780 through you know Charmander Pollock to see if we have 1946 01:55:55,780 --> 01:55:59,850 the resource because it's it's nice to direct them to 1947 01:55:59,850 --> 01:56:02,620 do this but if they don't have the resources that 1948 01:56:02,620 --> 01:56:05,280 they can't do it and so I think maybe we're 1949 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,090 just putting the cart before the horse to you Mr 1950 01:56:09,090 --> 01:56:13,490 mayor to I guess city manager ... 1951 01:56:13,490 --> 01:56:17,080 or whoever this would be under 1952 01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,240 ... three Mister maybe I'll refer that to ... ... 1953 01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,930 commissioner Kwan I I this is the first time since 1954 01:56:23,930 --> 01:56:27,540 I don't know exactly what they are ... 1955 01:56:27,540 --> 01:56:30,040 what it all entails weather is captured and things that 1956 01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,380 we are planning on doing or or not so when 1957 01:56:32,380 --> 01:56:34,450 the offer that refer that to I'm in the same 1958 01:56:34,450 --> 01:56:36,950 position city manager ... it this the first time I 1959 01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:39,320 see all of these options and I don't know if 1960 01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:43,530 we're already doing them or ... if their process or 1961 01:56:43,570 --> 01:56:47,140 and we just need oversight or a confirmation to continue 1962 01:56:47,140 --> 01:56:49,950 to do a number of their new initiative so we 1963 01:56:49,950 --> 01:56:53,520 have to be cognizant of the time required by staff 1964 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:54,640 in 1965 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:57,240 so if if commissioner quite you're probably at the same 1966 01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:01,670 disadvantage but try your best ... three Mister Merrill ... 1967 01:57:02,460 --> 01:57:06,210 my observation is that the the certainly the introduction under 1968 01:57:06,460 --> 01:57:11,070 paragraph B. talks about community energy and emissions plant so 1969 01:57:11,070 --> 01:57:14,010 a lot of these initiatives can be incorporated into that 1970 01:57:14,010 --> 01:57:16,540 and those are things that we would have already been 1971 01:57:16,930 --> 01:57:21,250 doing such however there are some other things here like 1972 01:57:21,250 --> 01:57:24,240 electrification of the of the city fleet and what not 1973 01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,470 which you know what I would have to defer to 1974 01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:29,460 somebody or investigate further so my colleagues as what those 1975 01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:32,380 implications would look like and how far we can go 1976 01:57:32,380 --> 01:57:35,050 but certainly a lot of these things are are well 1977 01:57:35,050 --> 01:57:38,190 under way and I would consider these directives to be 1978 01:57:38,190 --> 01:57:41,840 a little more focused on some of the specific issues 1979 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,090 in a festival of council we can certainly we will 1980 01:57:44,090 --> 01:57:47,980 certainly do our best to investigate them further 1981 01:57:47,980 --> 01:57:50,470 thank you Mr man my last ten seconds I'd like 1982 01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:54,400 to move an amendment that we added the next Roman 1983 01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,500 numeral after I. acts because I'm not familiar with what 1984 01:57:57,500 --> 01:58:00,130 that is is it acts 1985 01:58:00,130 --> 01:58:03,440 X. Hey I got it right ... yesterday if I 1986 01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,570 got something right I got a treat but I guess 1987 01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:10,580 not happen today ... just that acts that ... 1988 01:58:10,580 --> 01:58:17,240 a staff be directed to ... as strongly urge all 1989 01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:22,950 applicants for medium density and high density to have ... 1990 01:58:23,220 --> 01:58:29,680 the infrastructure for electric vehicle charging at each and every 1991 01:58:29,930 --> 01:58:34,520 parking space with their applications and then leave the rest 1992 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:39,280 the council will take care of it 1993 01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:43,210 so if I spoke too fast Mr Clark 1994 01:58:43,210 --> 01:58:49,310 but your speed writer I can see 1995 01:58:49,310 --> 01:58:51,750 K. G. 1996 01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:53,890 well if it's there sorry I didn't see a counselor 1997 01:58:53,890 --> 01:58:55,040 west 1998 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,550 just I would recommend it to friends 1999 01:58:57,550 --> 01:59:00,000 put in the work change but if you want it 2000 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,980 instantly that's not where is the council 2001 01:59:03,980 --> 01:59:07,390 which one is which one is it 2002 01:59:07,390 --> 01:59:10,820 number 5 2003 01:59:10,820 --> 01:59:14,760 installation of electric charging stations in public and private developers 2004 01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:15,810 buy 2005 01:59:15,810 --> 01:59:18,240 right I'm not offended by putting it in as a 2006 01:59:18,630 --> 01:59:19,980 extra 2007 01:59:19,980 --> 01:59:22,790 things fall apart 2008 01:59:22,790 --> 01:59:24,940 hello at 2009 01:59:24,940 --> 01:59:26,750 yeah I just think yeah because I want to be 2010 01:59:26,750 --> 01:59:30,190 more specific to the applications for the infrastructure as opposed 2011 01:59:30,190 --> 01:59:33,170 to the charging station at south 2012 01:59:33,170 --> 01:59:38,760 so 10 2013 01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:49,270 thank you 2014 01:59:57,490 --> 01:59:58,460 and 2015 01:59:58,460 --> 02:00:01,880 differently 5 2016 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,490 yeah it's fun friendly J. 2017 02:00:04,490 --> 02:00:07,530 I don't want to 2018 02:00:07,530 --> 02:00:19,830 just because of the little ones that 2019 02:00:57,810 --> 02:01:09,640 for every parking spot 2020 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,060 okay 2021 02:01:54,060 --> 02:01:56,190 give 2022 02:01:56,190 --> 02:02:00,010 is pilot 2023 02:02:00,010 --> 02:02:03,150 thank thank you Mister Maher AJ I strongly support the 2024 02:02:03,150 --> 02:02:05,090 the motion on the floor I think it's in keeping 2025 02:02:05,090 --> 02:02:08,670 with the the ... the added to this council's having 2026 02:02:08,670 --> 02:02:12,110 of taking action on on issues that ... you not 2027 02:02:12,110 --> 02:02:15,930 not just merely words and statements but to to really 2028 02:02:15,930 --> 02:02:18,450 put in some initiatives that are they're going to help 2029 02:02:18,990 --> 02:02:22,400 ... to solve the problems do our part to take 2030 02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:25,260 a leadership role we want to ... make sure all 2031 02:02:25,260 --> 02:02:28,730 our buildings use energy as efficient as possible but ... 2032 02:02:28,730 --> 02:02:31,480 we also want to discourage others I love the idea 2033 02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:34,520 of forcing ... 2034 02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,880 world with within within the realm of what we can 2035 02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:41,530 forcing the applicants to come forward with with ... energy 2036 02:02:41,530 --> 02:02:45,420 saving measures with the ... like two vehicle charging stations 2037 02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:49,300 ... the building code should be changed it's it's we 2038 02:02:49,300 --> 02:02:53,690 should also be ... lobbying the provincial government to change 2039 02:02:53,690 --> 02:02:57,350 the building quote it's just ridiculous to put into a 2040 02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:59,930 high rise building that's going to be there for over 2041 02:02:59,930 --> 02:03:04,040 a hundred years and ... not have ... not of 2042 02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:07,560 the ability of park electric vehicles overnight it's a small 2043 02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:11,430 cost but it's a very important change is needed ... 2044 02:03:11,460 --> 02:03:14,050 I support that and and actually a very simple ... 2045 02:03:14,050 --> 02:03:17,870 ... ... pleased with the staff report and with all 2046 02:03:17,870 --> 02:03:19,760 the work that's being done right now I don't I 2047 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:22,270 don't think we're communicating enough to the residents of Richmond 2048 02:03:22,270 --> 02:03:25,510 hill of all these different initiatives that are underway I 2049 02:03:25,510 --> 02:03:28,810 was surprised to learn that that our staff actually engaged 2050 02:03:28,810 --> 02:03:32,730 in a process where every application is rated on it's 2051 02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:38,020 on it's a new environment mon pharmacy sustainable ... aspects 2052 02:03:38,020 --> 02:03:39,850 they have a number of criteria they have a point 2053 02:03:39,850 --> 02:03:43,700 system and and ... is that it's it's taken very 2054 02:03:43,700 --> 02:03:46,430 seriously by our staff I think this motion I would 2055 02:03:46,430 --> 02:03:50,900 think also west gives users more tools and greater ability 2056 02:03:51,170 --> 02:03:53,710 to go even further than they're going today but we 2057 02:03:53,710 --> 02:03:55,860 we are doing a good job today we we wanna 2058 02:03:55,860 --> 02:03:58,880 be leaders we encourage staff to do more of I'd 2059 02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:00,990 like to see more being done I I want to 2060 02:04:01,350 --> 02:04:04,990 I'd like to see ... ... environmental summit held here 2061 02:04:04,990 --> 02:04:07,260 in in in Richmond hill and there's a lot of 2062 02:04:07,260 --> 02:04:09,660 people we could invite in I think we could be 2063 02:04:09,660 --> 02:04:13,950 the ones who ... ... your really really bring these 2064 02:04:13,950 --> 02:04:17,540 issues out and ... plead with the provincial and federal 2065 02:04:17,540 --> 02:04:20,170 governments for the for them to step up their efforts 2066 02:04:20,530 --> 02:04:21,860 ... 2067 02:04:21,860 --> 02:04:25,480 so I I'd like to see that happen 2068 02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:28,010 like I said a lot of these initiatives ... good 2069 02:04:28,380 --> 02:04:31,750 good job staff ... as far as the the cost 2070 02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:37,270 implications of this admissions plan ... you let's let's let's 2071 02:04:37,770 --> 02:04:40,200 see what comes forward and how much money the staff 2072 02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:43,250 requires because it's money well spent I I've talked to 2073 02:04:43,250 --> 02:04:46,140 so many residents in Richmond hill they're concerned about this 2074 02:04:46,140 --> 02:04:48,900 their concern for their children and if we have to 2075 02:04:48,900 --> 02:04:52,320 allocate some budget dollars to to making a proper functioning 2076 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:56,260 plan than than ... it's it's very reasonable to do 2077 02:04:56,260 --> 02:04:59,320 so will have the support of the residence ... to 2078 02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:03,070 to go forward so as as a budget cherub I'm 2079 02:05:03,310 --> 02:05:06,120 in favor of spending ... 2080 02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,140 ... whatever it takes to to put in an energy 2081 02:05:09,140 --> 02:05:11,790 emissions plan that's going to be effective for the city 2082 02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:14,140 thank you 2083 02:05:14,140 --> 02:05:17,500 thank you customers 2084 02:05:17,500 --> 02:05:20,220 thank you Mr mayor I like the way this conversation 2085 02:05:20,220 --> 02:05:23,320 is is is going ... 2086 02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:26,520 it is curious I was at the ... library conference 2087 02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:30,460 ... week or two ago and ... movie ... internet 2088 02:05:30,460 --> 02:05:34,400 might might childhood friend Katharine Hayhoe what was speaking to 2089 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:37,630 the masses ... and she was speaking from a bit 2090 02:05:37,630 --> 02:05:40,790 of her Ted talk which was the V. and I 2091 02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:43,730 wanna make sure quarter properly the most important thing you 2092 02:05:43,730 --> 02:05:46,560 can do to fight climate change 2093 02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:49,220 talk about it and she spoke with one gentleman who 2094 02:05:49,220 --> 02:05:52,340 said he had a list of people he'd spoken to 2095 02:05:52,340 --> 02:05:55,010 about little simple things 2096 02:05:55,010 --> 02:05:58,240 and it was ten thousand some odd people that this 2097 02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:02,440 individual is broken too so the the the the conversation 2098 02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:05,420 that ... that I had one day with ... I 2099 02:06:05,420 --> 02:06:08,270 think was let's get to work I said we need 2100 02:06:08,270 --> 02:06:10,620 to speak to we need to you need to we 2101 02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:13,410 all need to speak to those that are already in 2102 02:06:13,410 --> 02:06:15,320 the choir 2103 02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,240 because I see although I don't go to them I 2104 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,670 see the pictures online from these different seminars and that 2105 02:06:20,670 --> 02:06:23,060 and it's good you're all talk to each other but 2106 02:06:23,060 --> 02:06:25,170 I don't see many of my neighbors there I don't 2107 02:06:25,170 --> 02:06:26,830 see many of the people that we want to get 2108 02:06:26,830 --> 02:06:29,950 the message to so 2109 02:06:29,950 --> 02:06:32,620 keep doing are you doing ... if I have a 2110 02:06:32,620 --> 02:06:34,660 great idea I don't have it right now on how 2111 02:06:34,660 --> 02:06:38,890 to get outside of that community to get the other 2112 02:06:38,890 --> 02:06:43,850 people in that's what we need to do so 2113 02:06:43,850 --> 02:06:45,860 talk about it 2114 02:06:45,860 --> 02:06:47,700 I would side of 2115 02:06:47,700 --> 02:06:52,340 hours make it a dinner talk at the dining room 2116 02:06:52,340 --> 02:06:54,600 table 2117 02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,380 but the things we can practically do I like the 2118 02:06:57,380 --> 02:07:00,650 comment that that one of the speakers made today not 2119 02:07:00,650 --> 02:07:04,410 of tacking people's lifestyle choices 2120 02:07:04,410 --> 02:07:07,960 but little things simple things 2121 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:11,330 deputy mayor Perrelli picks me up quite often coming to 2122 02:07:11,330 --> 02:07:13,220 the office 2123 02:07:13,220 --> 02:07:17,250 the small thing but we're saving fuel in one vehicle 2124 02:07:17,250 --> 02:07:20,320 and I don't drive so I like it 2125 02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,780 I'm saving fuel he's not but that the planet is 2126 02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:24,900 so there's all kinds of little things you can do 2127 02:07:24,900 --> 02:07:26,970 that doesn't seem like a lot that if we can 2128 02:07:26,970 --> 02:07:28,840 get that message out to some of our friends and 2129 02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:30,180 neighbors 2130 02:07:30,180 --> 02:07:33,260 every little bit will make a difference ... I support 2131 02:07:33,260 --> 02:07:36,040 this ... this motion in front of us ... going 2132 02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:39,760 to staff to examine the following directions seeing what's possible 2133 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:41,780 what's not what we are doing what can we do 2134 02:07:42,150 --> 02:07:45,590 ... it's a good it's a good start thank you 2135 02:07:45,590 --> 02:07:48,190 they give us a chance 2136 02:07:48,190 --> 02:07:51,410 thank you for much ... Mister chair and I'd like 2137 02:07:51,410 --> 02:07:54,060 to first of all thanks all the dedication three of 2138 02:07:54,060 --> 02:07:57,570 you and I'll just touch on very briefly ... but 2139 02:07:57,570 --> 02:08:02,390 also particularly ... to my seat mates ... concert Wes 2140 02:08:02,690 --> 02:08:07,170 and consular service on this motion yes ... I'm also 2141 02:08:07,170 --> 02:08:11,870 ... remember off do cleanup partnerships with Joe comprises of 2142 02:08:11,870 --> 02:08:16,130 ... automate is pull ... elected officials that truck cross 2143 02:08:16,130 --> 02:08:20,340 the ... returned and in Ontario Seoul is certainly something 2144 02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:24,380 that for inspiring to hear all of not just a 2145 02:08:24,380 --> 02:08:26,420 call to supporting it but 2146 02:08:26,420 --> 02:08:31,020 community talking about those what's common for action community engagement 2147 02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:36,190 leadership our focus on leadership because in addition to leadership 2148 02:08:36,190 --> 02:08:39,400 in the community commit look into this console for their 2149 02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:43,270 leadership and on that front I just want to share 2150 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:47,250 a number people already mentioned about ... come up with 2151 02:08:47,250 --> 02:08:52,760 the greatest innovative measures to seek funding now in addition 2152 02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:55,930 to to stop report which is ... really mentioning about 2153 02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:59,580 that ... our city is already ... complying with a 2154 02:08:59,580 --> 02:09:03,990 lot of the federation campus politics on departments for climate 2155 02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:06,830 protection program in school what they did that that day 2156 02:09:06,830 --> 02:09:10,550 which is great ... but also if the federation cat 2157 02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:14,320 M. as parties it also runs a menace pope green 2158 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:19,030 fund the actually help to support projects that actually would 2159 02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:24,930 be using no carbon ... up building ... greet infrastructure 2160 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,230 which is some of it is because before me I 2161 02:09:27,230 --> 02:09:30,830 looked up to as well as all try to lower 2162 02:09:31,510 --> 02:09:34,690 greenhouse emission projects in fact to see different which midfielder 2163 02:09:34,690 --> 02:09:38,130 Tom Richmond used to get money from the ATM avocado 2164 02:09:38,130 --> 02:09:41,520 green medical fund now the reason I bought brought it 2165 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:46,210 up is that there are opportunities out there to ... 2166 02:09:46,210 --> 02:09:48,740 for the city and the stop in applying to some 2167 02:09:48,740 --> 02:09:52,580 as I know because federation can miss potter also operate 2168 02:09:52,580 --> 02:09:56,900 and run just after management ... ... funding which I 2169 02:09:56,900 --> 02:10:00,600 believe our city might have ... apply for and dispatchers 2170 02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,460 on what basically is ... I believe to be true 2171 02:10:04,490 --> 02:10:08,900 that consul west Moshe talking about the metrics related to 2172 02:10:09,050 --> 02:10:15,380 us than ability matching up and in fact ... the 2173 02:10:15,380 --> 02:10:18,840 recently the ... they also manage but we'd find under 2174 02:10:19,250 --> 02:10:23,450 SCM also attribute money my regional calls may know compared 2175 02:10:23,450 --> 02:10:26,150 to richer a consular ... they give money to your 2176 02:10:26,180 --> 02:10:29,900 region which were part of the development designed a method 2177 02:10:29,900 --> 02:10:32,760 for optimizing I want to make sure I say it 2178 02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:37,700 right the environmental effects of low impact development and again 2179 02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:42,210 green infrastructure features so that the help is that the 2180 02:10:42,210 --> 02:10:44,490 money is there we just have to tap into it 2181 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:49,420 often I'm glad that ... regional concert deputy mayor ... 2182 02:10:49,420 --> 02:10:53,540 depart talking of booting colt in fact the cleanup partnership 2183 02:10:53,570 --> 02:10:56,660 is calling upon of which we have an estimation log 2184 02:10:56,660 --> 02:11:00,470 on on terribly difficult but the national political which until 2185 02:11:00,470 --> 02:11:03,160 as part of province they have a consultation on going 2186 02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:07,630 on now receiving submission until March thirteenth so we have 2187 02:11:07,630 --> 02:11:10,590 almost a whole month to make submissions all in all 2188 02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:15,850 I'm in full support of this I'm also glad that 2189 02:11:15,850 --> 02:11:18,830 the key word on the B. part is in coral 2190 02:11:19,190 --> 02:11:22,350 not just this list is not meant to be exhaustive 2191 02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:26,640 and I'm glad that regional ... concert properly at all 2192 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,840 that number ten to make it I guess somebody caught 2193 02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:34,040 ten it's a perfect number so while I like that 2194 02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:37,340 to be not only perfect now but expanding the scope 2195 02:11:37,590 --> 02:11:40,360 of within the resources we do have and in the 2196 02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:43,590 end ... I want to hang up also thanks not 2197 02:11:43,590 --> 02:11:47,320 for doing it very comprehensive report and I do agree 2198 02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:50,170 I think someone mentioned it as somebody screwed things up 2199 02:11:50,170 --> 02:11:53,860 you see different doing it should be more ... I 2200 02:11:53,860 --> 02:11:56,720 guess share with the members of the community because for 2201 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,830 example on page one thirty for the report police say 2202 02:11:59,830 --> 02:12:04,540 the city now after half trial videobull energy systems are 2203 02:12:04,570 --> 02:12:08,100 in store the facilities office city we should not how 2204 02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:12,280 come you know that which many attribute exercising leadership it 2205 02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:14,730 just have to let people know more about so all 2206 02:12:14,730 --> 02:12:15,020 in all 2207 02:12:15,020 --> 02:12:17,870 all of which you know funding is there for both 2208 02:12:17,870 --> 02:12:21,290 the public I mention about the federation can respond as 2209 02:12:21,570 --> 02:12:25,400 we medical fund asset management funding but also their private 2210 02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:29,280 somebody mention pie Fundacion all there's also one this call 2211 02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:32,380 I believe the call the ... 2212 02:12:32,380 --> 02:12:35,740 astronomical 2213 02:12:35,740 --> 02:12:37,100 embassy 2214 02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:40,610 the court T. A. F. ... sorry I brought up 2215 02:12:40,610 --> 02:12:44,970 the right wording but thank you they also provide funding 2216 02:12:45,250 --> 02:12:48,840 engaging private funders ... and also help with her from 2217 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,490 the public so there are endless so to speak on 2218 02:12:52,490 --> 02:12:56,250 this matter I saw my typing for support funding opportunity 2219 02:12:56,250 --> 02:12:59,610 to stop it this is the time thank you so 2220 02:12:59,610 --> 02:13:01,370 so much 2221 02:13:01,370 --> 02:13:04,150 today so up here one big loving family we all 2222 02:13:04,150 --> 02:13:06,530 love this I'm gonna say to you I am so 2223 02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:08,660 frustrated 2224 02:13:08,660 --> 02:13:11,300 when we moved up here we are policy people up 2225 02:13:11,300 --> 02:13:13,900 here that could be a tangible difference on what we 2226 02:13:13,900 --> 02:13:15,760 want to do if we really want to do it 2227 02:13:16,190 --> 02:13:18,260 and I said it yesterday in the discussion that we 2228 02:13:18,260 --> 02:13:22,080 had the difference between politics and policy so for those 2229 02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:25,150 that want politics I hope you're enjoying what you're hearing 2230 02:13:25,590 --> 02:13:29,770 because that's what I'm hearing I'm not hearing action 2231 02:13:29,770 --> 02:13:32,720 this community right now we have people who have contaminated 2232 02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:36,230 water in Richmond hill today 2233 02:13:36,230 --> 02:13:40,010 we have people today who have water and sewer back 2234 02:13:40,010 --> 02:13:42,930 flow not from their fall from everybody else here says 2235 02:13:42,930 --> 02:13:45,270 didn't affect me so when you flush your toilet and 2236 02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:50,500 when my neighbor's backyard basement nine inches of it 2237 02:13:50,500 --> 02:13:53,330 it's frustrating for me that when we say we want 2238 02:13:53,330 --> 02:13:56,950 to help our residents on issues that affect climate change 2239 02:13:56,950 --> 02:14:00,910 of which we can make option on here for example 2240 02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:06,980 because we were close to your position we are responsible 2241 02:14:06,980 --> 02:14:10,570 not by choice but were mandated by the province to 2242 02:14:10,570 --> 02:14:12,660 do municipal act 2243 02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:15,160 in a in a planning act 2244 02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:17,810 some people here say I'm gonna play the politics to 2245 02:14:17,810 --> 02:14:20,240 say I don't want change you don't want change we 2246 02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,900 don't want change either effectiveness will get investment or water 2247 02:14:23,900 --> 02:14:25,910 and sewers 2248 02:14:25,910 --> 02:14:29,150 it's frustrating we want to reduce parking standards and I've 2249 02:14:29,150 --> 02:14:31,710 moved four motions 2250 02:14:31,710 --> 02:14:35,340 how many members of council here enacted those motions some 2251 02:14:35,340 --> 02:14:38,600 of the people that this council say today yeah I'm 2252 02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:41,080 all for this this is great 2253 02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:44,490 then they vote about actionable items to would reduce GHG 2254 02:14:44,490 --> 02:14:45,910 emissions 2255 02:14:45,910 --> 02:14:50,060 shame and frustrating for me sitting here knowing what I 2256 02:14:50,060 --> 02:14:53,350 know on this council because it's so busy but giving 2257 02:14:53,350 --> 02:14:57,120 the optics and getting hopefully some good press because that's 2258 02:14:57,120 --> 02:15:00,340 our focus there so as it relates to this motion 2259 02:15:00,370 --> 02:15:03,810 thank you related to this motion talks about this motion 2260 02:15:03,810 --> 02:15:10,480 talks about options options options enhancement get back with stuff 2261 02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:14,470 money money money money let's go back let's do it 2262 02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:17,700 I'm saying that I look forward and I hope you 2263 02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:20,020 pay attention folks 2264 02:15:20,020 --> 02:15:22,970 because there will be moving motions to affect people who 2265 02:15:22,970 --> 02:15:26,040 are affected by climate change by this counts what we 2266 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:29,430 can do tangibly that we can make a difference that 2267 02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:33,390 we affect the quality of life of people here this 2268 02:15:33,540 --> 02:15:36,650 is about that's going to each other's let's hear some 2269 02:15:36,650 --> 02:15:40,740 more reports let's get some feedback absolutely will go through 2270 02:15:40,740 --> 02:15:44,690 there are reports there are reports so the car so 2271 02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,090 let's start with that someone to one if you will 2272 02:15:47,090 --> 02:15:49,580 look at the York regional profile and T. A. F. 2273 02:15:49,580 --> 02:15:53,350 that's here in front of us and January twenty twenty 2274 02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:57,230 reflecting this ... talks about how our emissions in Richmond 2275 02:15:57,230 --> 02:16:01,030 hill and what we're doing for example and you look 2276 02:16:01,030 --> 02:16:03,380 at the reports to come forward 2277 02:16:03,380 --> 02:16:05,280 what we do about it 2278 02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:07,090 nothing 2279 02:16:07,090 --> 02:16:10,570 so yeah we'll we'll do this I'm hoping a stockist 2280 02:16:10,570 --> 02:16:12,840 be an exercise 2281 02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:16,120 I'm really hoping that members of council and more importantly 2282 02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:19,240 the public in the population as a whole that we 2283 02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:23,710 work collaboratively beyond our sphere here to look at the 2284 02:16:23,710 --> 02:16:25,980 major issues 2285 02:16:25,980 --> 02:16:28,570 because I really do want to make a difference I 2286 02:16:28,570 --> 02:16:30,610 want to see tangible results I don't want to hear 2287 02:16:30,610 --> 02:16:32,400 a year from now in two years now three years 2288 02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:36,040 ago I attended another seminar I engaged here we had 2289 02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:37,510 meetings 2290 02:16:37,510 --> 02:16:48,020 can we please start having actionable targetable measurable qualified prioritizing 2291 02:16:48,460 --> 02:16:52,550 check check check Jennifer a tortured soul Walgreens check check 2292 02:16:53,070 --> 02:16:55,610 enter I love the banter 2293 02:16:55,610 --> 02:16:58,160 and just saying I love the I love it so 2294 02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:01,370 I'm hoping that the people in the audience 2295 02:17:01,370 --> 02:17:04,350 can I make in my notes we'll see what the 2296 02:17:04,350 --> 02:17:06,650 record is 2297 02:17:06,650 --> 02:17:10,530 because it's not about optics for me it's about performance 2298 02:17:10,830 --> 02:17:14,710 it's about reaching our objectives and it's hurtful to me 2299 02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:18,100 because I'm up generally consider a guy that wants performance 2300 02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:20,800 and expectations and deliverables 2301 02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:23,040 so there's two types of cysts often as people in 2302 02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:26,170 this council's commitment of Herzl state again 2303 02:17:26,170 --> 02:17:29,160 I see parents 2 different ways 2304 02:17:29,160 --> 02:17:31,590 you want to have chocolate for every lunch breakfast and 2305 02:17:31,590 --> 02:17:33,790 dinner I'll give you chocolate 2306 02:17:33,790 --> 02:17:36,850 there are other people that give you a balanced diet 2307 02:17:36,850 --> 02:17:40,100 it's frustrating when you have people telling you what you 2308 02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:41,930 want to hear and hear each of you what you 2309 02:17:41,930 --> 02:17:43,560 want to do 2310 02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:48,210 and they're not making measurable quantifiable when they have the 2311 02:17:48,210 --> 02:17:52,840 opportunity to do so our policy when we're making choices 2312 02:17:53,020 --> 02:17:58,320 because of politics of what the optics are 2313 02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:00,530 you see the reaction by some of people in council 2314 02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:06,630 future when your own thank you 2315 02:18:06,630 --> 02:18:08,110 all right 2316 02:18:08,110 --> 02:18:12,480 we have this motion before us as this 2317 02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:14,930 all those in favor 2318 02:18:14,930 --> 02:18:16,800 a post 2319 02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:19,410 here is synonymous with 2320 02:18:19,410 --> 02:18:30,260 yes all right 2321 02:18:30,850 --> 02:18:37,290 find my way through this process 2322 02:18:37,290 --> 02:18:43,630 this would be moving to 13 months 5 2323 02:18:43,630 --> 02:18:45,850 listed 2324 02:18:45,850 --> 02:18:49,400 202020 community 2325 02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,520 yeah I would like to respectfully ask if we can 2326 02:18:51,550 --> 02:18:55,370 go to the community and cultural grant program okay perfect 2327 02:18:55,370 --> 02:18:57,680 thank you 2328 02:18:57,680 --> 02:19:04,100 we had we had delegations prior to that 2329 02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:15,500 so it is 135 2330 02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:20,370 okay this is with regard to their twenty twenty community 2331 02:19:20,370 --> 02:19:26,350 and cultural grant program that we ... had before us 2332 02:19:26,350 --> 02:19:29,320 January twenty second and it was made a move to 2333 02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:34,620 this meeting ... and that staff be directed to advise 2334 02:19:34,620 --> 02:19:39,180 all potential grant recipients identify in their life that they 2335 02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:43,260 should consider attending the meeting to answer any questions of 2336 02:19:43,260 --> 02:19:45,880 members of council 2337 02:19:45,880 --> 02:19:50,160 and that was moved by concert probably censor 2338 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:53,160 we are on the 2339 02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:56,120 the item now 2340 02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:59,990 the Jewish mystic occurrence no 2341 02:19:59,990 --> 02:20:01,930 it was just so that was an amendment to my 2342 02:20:01,930 --> 02:20:04,110 main motion 2343 02:20:04,110 --> 02:20:06,300 US so can I bring my main motion back to 2344 02:20:06,300 --> 02:20:08,750 the floor 2345 02:20:08,750 --> 02:20:12,170 my main motion was that we discontinue the community grant 2346 02:20:12,170 --> 02:20:15,240 program 2347 02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:17,690 okay and we are forever and we ... yes we've 2348 02:20:17,810 --> 02:20:21,370 just to be consistent with the last ten years or 2349 02:20:21,370 --> 02:20:24,060 so that I've voted on this 2350 02:20:24,060 --> 02:20:27,090 all right fair enough he was in the it was 2351 02:20:27,090 --> 02:20:28,410 our motion 2352 02:20:28,410 --> 02:20:33,050 my apologies Sir no I talked to today 2353 02:20:33,050 --> 02:20:35,630 so the motion is back before us did you push 2354 02:20:35,630 --> 02:20:37,410 to move it 2355 02:20:37,410 --> 02:20:39,790 the chair right 2356 02:20:39,790 --> 02:20:42,050 that's what I just did Sir okay I just put 2357 02:20:42,050 --> 02:20:43,930 it back on the floor so we have something to 2358 02:20:43,930 --> 02:20:54,870 discuss all right 2359 02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:57,580 once there 2360 02:20:57,580 --> 02:21:02,750 I know I certainly that's that's what we're the motion 2361 02:21:02,750 --> 02:21:06,500 is not approved issuing up twenty twenty community and cultural 2362 02:21:06,500 --> 02:21:09,620 grants 2363 02:21:09,620 --> 02:21:13,160 I would ... I'll speak for me ... I I 2364 02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:16,070 do not believe that this is something that we should 2365 02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:19,020 do in our community we have a number of community 2366 02:21:19,020 --> 02:21:21,370 groups here we have a number of other cultural groups 2367 02:21:21,370 --> 02:21:24,870 here that do met many many programs on behalf of 2368 02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:27,910 our residents and bringing us 2369 02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:31,190 culture and bringing us up to hold it all kinds 2370 02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:34,510 of things in the community that we are all attending 2371 02:21:34,780 --> 02:21:37,460 we're all involved in we've all spent a lot of 2372 02:21:37,460 --> 02:21:41,830 time and volunteer time on these it is a yes 2373 02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:46,130 I understand that ... it is a sixty five thousand 2374 02:21:46,130 --> 02:21:52,390 dollar allocation in the budget ... which covers ... some 2375 02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:58,520 twenty organizations for outside spinal covers the twenty organizations being 2376 02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:01,700 able to ... to provide 2377 02:22:01,700 --> 02:22:06,030 as I said the community cultural whatever it may point 2378 02:22:06,030 --> 02:22:09,220 of order Mr practice all I'm suggesting thank you for 2379 02:22:09,870 --> 02:22:13,100 that ... this should not be 2380 02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:15,130 stopped 2381 02:22:15,130 --> 02:22:17,310 in order 2382 02:22:17,310 --> 02:22:20,260 I think it should not be stopped Mister mayor we 2383 02:22:20,260 --> 02:22:24,100 don't have a second ... 2384 02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:26,550 a severity 2385 02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:29,790 your second I'll second the motion 2386 02:22:29,790 --> 02:22:33,040 is that what you're asking me for 2387 02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:34,800 so I moved the motion if you're asking me I 2388 02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:37,650 can't scream well there is no second or so well 2389 02:22:37,650 --> 02:22:40,550 you're the chair you need to petition if anyone could 2390 02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:43,640 have second or not there's no reason a second or 2391 02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:44,980 so 2392 02:22:44,980 --> 02:22:53,970 yeah also okay to start 2393 02:22:53,970 --> 02:22:55,850 I've given my 2394 02:22:55,850 --> 02:22:57,710 understanding of 2395 02:22:57,710 --> 02:23:00,960 why this should not happen however I'm only one person 2396 02:23:00,960 --> 02:23:04,080 here so who else is speaking to speak on this 2397 02:23:04,180 --> 02:23:07,390 matter 2398 02:23:07,390 --> 02:23:08,540 do it 2399 02:23:08,540 --> 02:23:10,890 I think it was me I cannot support this motion 2400 02:23:10,890 --> 02:23:13,800 ... I do not want to repeat ... everything I 2401 02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:18,030 said last time I think ... the all these organizations 2402 02:23:18,030 --> 02:23:20,880 or their valuable to our community and they're trying to 2403 02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:24,230 you know serving ... bills that we aren't we cannot 2404 02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:27,480 directly sort of and and and honestly I think you 2405 02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:29,520 know if you need any changes like I said last 2406 02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:32,000 time ... don't do it this year you know we 2407 02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:34,830 can always go back and revise the policy but these 2408 02:23:34,830 --> 02:23:38,810 groups they already expect that we have the grant so 2409 02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:44,050 ... but I cannot support this ... hopefully we have 2410 02:23:44,050 --> 02:23:48,200 co counsel support because these groups ... they need the 2411 02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:52,660 money they need the money thank you 2412 02:23:52,660 --> 02:23:54,880 a surprise 2413 02:23:54,880 --> 02:23:58,450 Mister mayor I I I agree with ... councillor Lee 2414 02:23:58,450 --> 02:24:02,220 you ... that ... the the groups need the money 2415 02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:05,530 I agree with you Mr mayor that the groups do 2416 02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:08,170 invaluable work 2417 02:24:08,170 --> 02:24:11,800 the the issue that I take with with the program 2418 02:24:11,800 --> 02:24:15,760 is that what we're doing Mr mayor is we're taking 2419 02:24:16,210 --> 02:24:23,620 residents taxpayers money and we're choosing which not for profit 2420 02:24:23,650 --> 02:24:26,410 which charity to give it to 2421 02:24:26,410 --> 02:24:27,830 and 2422 02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:31,790 most recently Mr mer ... I I did a survey 2423 02:24:32,260 --> 02:24:35,640 ... city wide survey and that was one of the 2424 02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:37,840 questions that I asked 2425 02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:42,600 how do the residents of Richmond hill feel about ... 2426 02:24:42,770 --> 02:24:47,640 for a council to decide which charitable or not for 2427 02:24:47,640 --> 02:24:51,190 profit organizations to give their hard earned tax dollars to 2428 02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:57,650 and the overwhelming majority more than two thirds of the 2429 02:24:57,650 --> 02:25:04,120 people responded with they didn't approve of council giving ... 2430 02:25:04,350 --> 02:25:08,380 that money to not for profits or for culture for 2431 02:25:08,410 --> 02:25:12,970 for any other reason really and charitable organizations of their 2432 02:25:12,970 --> 02:25:17,040 choosing they believe that it should be something that's done 2433 02:25:17,070 --> 02:25:21,360 on an individual basis in each household 2434 02:25:21,360 --> 02:25:24,820 N. for example Mr mayor 2435 02:25:24,820 --> 02:25:29,050 the and following with the spirit of this motion it 2436 02:25:29,050 --> 02:25:32,700 was most recent that the ... for example the Italian 2437 02:25:32,700 --> 02:25:36,350 seniors club reached out to cast their barrels been out 2438 02:25:36,420 --> 02:25:39,790 long time supporter of the seniors even though he's only 2439 02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:41,780 of the sea a Tallien scenes even though he's only 2440 02:25:41,780 --> 02:25:45,120 thirteen percent Italian ... 2441 02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:47,540 and they needed money 2442 02:25:47,540 --> 02:25:50,930 N. Kelso Burroughs did not go to the public purse 2443 02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:53,740 he came to me and said ... that PMR probably 2444 02:25:53,740 --> 02:25:55,340 what are we gonna do we we need to help 2445 02:25:55,340 --> 02:25:58,130 these seniors and I agreed with them 2446 02:25:58,130 --> 02:26:03,310 and we went to the 2447 02:26:03,310 --> 02:26:08,160 in the industry and we asked for support and private 2448 02:26:08,250 --> 02:26:13,730 entities donated five thousand dollars to the Italian seniors quote 2449 02:26:14,310 --> 02:26:18,250 and I think that's the type of support we need 2450 02:26:18,620 --> 02:26:22,550 to give to our cultural groups so I say this 2451 02:26:22,900 --> 02:26:26,290 I will support this motion before us but I say 2452 02:26:26,290 --> 02:26:29,650 to all of the groups that are here today please 2453 02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:34,580 reach out to your members of council we have the 2454 02:26:34,610 --> 02:26:38,920 year of the community and we can help you raise 2455 02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:41,500 the funds that you require 2456 02:26:41,500 --> 02:26:46,520 I just don't feel comfortable taking taxpayers dollars and directing 2457 02:26:46,520 --> 02:26:51,970 it to organizations of my choosing thank you Mr mayor 2458 02:26:51,970 --> 02:26:53,560 as a chance 2459 02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:55,740 thank you very much 2460 02:26:55,740 --> 02:27:00,150 J. getting notices up just on this topic I said 2461 02:27:00,150 --> 02:27:03,150 it before and he said a game ... I think 2462 02:27:03,220 --> 02:27:08,220 the timing is an issue here and ... if I 2463 02:27:08,220 --> 02:27:10,700 get through you Mister chair all right the question not 2464 02:27:10,700 --> 02:27:15,850 a commission on community services wherein would decide 2465 02:27:15,850 --> 02:27:20,320 potential ... or actual autos were commanded us welcome to 2466 02:27:20,320 --> 02:27:25,390 stations would notify all anyone were notified that ... they 2467 02:27:25,430 --> 02:27:30,050 could apply for such grants when was the time for 2468 02:27:30,050 --> 02:27:33,860 you Mister chaired a commission 2469 02:27:33,860 --> 02:27:36,810 ... looks like we have somebody that comes coming down 2470 02:27:36,810 --> 02:27:47,370 the city okay 2471 02:27:48,900 --> 02:27:52,250 ... three Mister chair we sent notifications out starting in 2472 02:27:52,250 --> 02:27:55,340 July of twenty nineteen of the call for applications was 2473 02:27:55,340 --> 02:28:00,310 open the call closed on November first twenty nineteen thank 2474 02:28:00,310 --> 02:28:05,900 you I'm certain so all the information I have been 2475 02:28:05,900 --> 02:28:11,220 disseminated to all come into organization who might be thinking 2476 02:28:11,220 --> 02:28:16,230 about all I have all we have this projection mine 2477 02:28:16,590 --> 02:28:19,910 planning for the next year twenty twenty double Sasha of 2478 02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:24,430 course right July of twenty nineteen so 2479 02:28:24,430 --> 02:28:26,440 now fast forward 2480 02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:28,560 9 months later 2481 02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:31,340 we are saying to and also they can apply for 2482 02:28:31,340 --> 02:28:34,510 amber so people things up all over can I say 2483 02:28:34,510 --> 02:28:36,940 should call for a process through the board would warn 2484 02:28:36,940 --> 02:28:40,100 peers and that over four months they come up with 2485 02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:44,170 an application and then in November and then my understanding 2486 02:28:44,170 --> 02:28:47,380 from the people's report we have all stopped as well 2487 02:28:47,380 --> 02:28:51,620 as engaging authors ... in the area to make the 2488 02:28:51,620 --> 02:28:56,220 judgment I say goals although recommend ones to console to 2489 02:28:56,220 --> 02:28:59,510 approve it in a call miss all those timelines and 2490 02:28:59,510 --> 02:29:01,480 procedures 2491 02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:05,210 from my end I honestly don't feel is fair if 2492 02:29:05,210 --> 02:29:09,150 you're looking at those con a logical development timelines nine 2493 02:29:09,150 --> 02:29:13,400 months later the groups all it has been a mistake 2494 02:29:13,430 --> 02:29:16,480 I'm sorry ... we are not going to find it 2495 02:29:16,650 --> 02:29:19,930 the issue of course console the majority can make that 2496 02:29:19,930 --> 02:29:24,300 decision but I for one I I I would I 2497 02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:26,610 believe comes from you may I mention it if we 2498 02:29:26,610 --> 02:29:30,850 want we do thinking about that may eight ... ... 2499 02:29:30,850 --> 02:29:34,960 ritual consta purchased mention is not the source for this 2500 02:29:34,960 --> 02:29:39,270 kind of funding all let it be known not 2501 02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:43,140 so we won't do anything in this July coming twenty 2502 02:29:43,140 --> 02:29:46,050 twenty to let people know all by the way come 2503 02:29:46,050 --> 02:29:48,130 up with some you know we could put checks for 2504 02:29:48,130 --> 02:29:51,240 to commit to a joy to and reach our cultural 2505 02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:55,850 life but to tell people nine months after that the 2506 02:29:55,850 --> 02:29:59,640 city of Richmond we see interested hearing from you receiving 2507 02:29:59,640 --> 02:30:00,000 your app 2508 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,480 cation in November and then setting up not just expectation 2509 02:30:04,810 --> 02:30:08,620 all I would venture to surmise that some organizations listed 2510 02:30:08,620 --> 02:30:11,560 on page ninety three ... on the on on on 2511 02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:14,890 on the previous ... meeting January twenty second my already 2512 02:30:14,890 --> 02:30:19,100 gone through certain things on promotion not mine too ... 2513 02:30:19,550 --> 02:30:22,540 maybe looking back you might not want to offend any 2514 02:30:22,540 --> 02:30:25,270 of your resources limited resources before after I got the 2515 02:30:25,270 --> 02:30:29,990 money but but presumably that was not something that one 2516 02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:33,320 would have thought an applicant I thought all 2517 02:30:33,320 --> 02:30:36,130 4 months later application 2518 02:30:36,130 --> 02:30:40,720 there's nothing so I have given does come logical development 2519 02:30:40,890 --> 02:30:44,660 timelines what I'm trying to illustrate everyone all right I 2520 02:30:44,690 --> 02:30:47,850 I would be open to say for twenty twenty and 2521 02:30:47,850 --> 02:30:52,910 beyond not to issue any more commit cultural grants but 2522 02:30:52,910 --> 02:30:56,210 stop at this point in time in my view is 2523 02:30:56,280 --> 02:31:02,500 totally unfair to community organizations that doing something good to 2524 02:31:02,870 --> 02:31:04,130 ... 2525 02:31:04,130 --> 02:31:09,200 we'll make our cities ... cultural life vibrant soul with 2526 02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:14,490 respect I cannot support this motion thank you 2527 02:31:14,490 --> 02:31:18,440 I'm also pointing 2528 02:31:18,440 --> 02:31:23,960 that's nice okay fair enough but maybe 2529 02:31:23,960 --> 02:31:25,380 okay 2530 02:31:25,380 --> 02:31:27,250 because so much 2531 02:31:27,250 --> 02:31:31,920 the data analyst so this plan has really changed the 2532 02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:34,000 last fifteen years 2533 02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:35,640 it's too bad 2534 02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:39,640 it changed from a format of we're gonna help community 2535 02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:43,790 members as a government for those that are helping in 2536 02:31:43,790 --> 02:31:46,840 the community to show recognition of their efforts and to 2537 02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:48,690 support them 2538 02:31:48,690 --> 02:31:54,290 to a position now that has become a requirement by 2539 02:31:54,290 --> 02:31:58,330 some to fund programs and some of the people that 2540 02:31:58,330 --> 02:32:02,220 are coming forwards are not from or in Richmond hill 2541 02:32:02,250 --> 02:32:04,700 or have some form of attachment the committee is doing 2542 02:32:04,700 --> 02:32:07,890 a good job ... they got lots of choices we 2543 02:32:07,890 --> 02:32:11,690 have a much bigger need than we have ... that 2544 02:32:11,690 --> 02:32:14,130 are once and I'm sure that all we want to 2545 02:32:14,130 --> 02:32:17,170 recognize all the work that our volunteer and outreach organizations 2546 02:32:17,170 --> 02:32:20,300 do this ... some that did applies some of didn't 2547 02:32:20,300 --> 02:32:22,660 summit will get phone some won't 2548 02:32:22,660 --> 02:32:24,210 but 2549 02:32:24,210 --> 02:32:28,100 the process has become politicized 2550 02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:32,590 the ... amount of money that's given is not given 2551 02:32:32,870 --> 02:32:37,450 unanimously across the spectrum it's given to selection groups 2552 02:32:37,450 --> 02:32:39,440 2553 02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:41,630 that's not the intent of the program 2554 02:32:41,630 --> 02:32:46,060 the intent of the program its design is saying we're 2555 02:32:46,060 --> 02:32:47,440 going to 2556 02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:49,380 a service 2557 02:32:49,380 --> 02:32:54,530 not fun assist in the engagement of what those organizations 2558 02:32:54,530 --> 02:32:57,330 are doing to give them 2559 02:32:57,330 --> 02:33:00,700 some support 2560 02:33:00,700 --> 02:33:03,020 once again 2561 02:33:03,020 --> 02:33:05,470 absolutely yeah we'll give you as much money as you 2562 02:33:05,470 --> 02:33:06,980 want you want to are those in favor of those 2563 02:33:06,980 --> 02:33:09,180 million dollars five million keep going 2564 02:33:09,180 --> 02:33:12,860 no no no hold on the school skills there were 2565 02:33:12,860 --> 02:33:15,310 times these gentleman used to be a hundred fifty dollars 2566 02:33:15,630 --> 02:33:17,160 not long ago 2567 02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:19,470 $50 which together 2568 02:33:19,470 --> 02:33:23,660 $300 no it's going into thousands 2569 02:33:23,660 --> 02:33:25,560 used to be used to be used to be a 2570 02:33:25,650 --> 02:33:29,050 token and those different ... you don't like that because 2571 02:33:29,050 --> 02:33:33,530 for whatever else once again our mandate here our responsibility 2572 02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:37,520 to the people who want to live work and play 2573 02:33:38,170 --> 02:33:42,220 and have a great community and represent and recognize 2574 02:33:42,220 --> 02:33:44,590 so certainly one of them is a council which is 2575 02:33:44,810 --> 02:33:48,350 really challenging because when you go to communities like Quebec 2576 02:33:49,020 --> 02:33:51,500 and the Quebec or say we care about Quebec or 2577 02:33:51,500 --> 02:33:54,260 Quebecers we love Quebec we love we're here to support 2578 02:33:54,260 --> 02:33:57,310 our community and sort of finance similar communities here we 2579 02:33:57,310 --> 02:34:00,920 have people fighting against other members it's to me started 2580 02:34:00,920 --> 02:34:03,750 shooting when you're people saying we want to give we 2581 02:34:03,750 --> 02:34:05,720 want to help well I don't want his help I 2582 02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:09,490 don't like him for 2583 02:34:09,490 --> 02:34:11,410 there are people in this community that are willing to 2584 02:34:11,410 --> 02:34:16,800 give and help them grow and we turn away 2585 02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:20,360 we turn away because of our attitude towards being a 2586 02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:23,610 sharing in a caring community I don't think it's up 2587 02:34:23,610 --> 02:34:27,210 to government the greatest respect to go the taxpayer to 2588 02:34:27,210 --> 02:34:30,030 say I want you to pay more taxes the fight 2589 02:34:30,030 --> 02:34:32,710 for your quality of life with every doing on fixed 2590 02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:36,010 incomes and we arbitrarily go choose where it's going to 2591 02:34:36,010 --> 02:34:39,250 go or not go ... I really think that we 2592 02:34:39,250 --> 02:34:42,230 should be focusing we have real challenges here 2593 02:34:42,230 --> 02:34:46,150 real challenges of basic goods of water sewer garbage really 2594 02:34:46,180 --> 02:34:47,630 parks 2595 02:34:47,630 --> 02:34:49,880 the quality of life issues we need to focus on 2596 02:34:49,880 --> 02:34:53,520 our mandate and once the things becomes politicized rebel filler 2597 02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:58,560 core mandate I start to say come on guys 2598 02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:01,140 why did we change this process why is it going 2599 02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:03,520 this way and wire the funds going so crazy and 2600 02:35:03,520 --> 02:35:06,210 why are some people getting hurt and why are we 2601 02:35:06,210 --> 02:35:08,440 doing better so I see it as of offered others 2602 02:35:08,780 --> 02:35:10,750 from a library on 2603 02:35:10,750 --> 02:35:14,300 okay we can help you manage and service 2604 02:35:14,300 --> 02:35:16,670 many of us here raise money 2605 02:35:16,670 --> 02:35:18,110 some of us raise money to get a picture in 2606 02:35:18,110 --> 02:35:20,850 the paper others raise money and say here you go 2607 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:22,570 without fanfare 2608 02:35:22,570 --> 02:35:24,710 because we're here to serve and help and grow our 2609 02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:29,840 community together so I'd see you that I don't 2610 02:35:29,840 --> 02:35:32,040 looking at the 2611 02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:35,640 current file and where it's gone in our evolution I've 2612 02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:37,680 only been here five years I find it interesting when 2613 02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:39,400 I go back in history and I start talking to 2614 02:35:39,400 --> 02:35:41,970 previous councils with the mandate where these funds were and 2615 02:35:41,970 --> 02:35:44,680 how they evolve 2616 02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:50,490 we deserve to serve the residents on our priorities first 2617 02:35:50,980 --> 02:35:55,500 and our wishes second absolutely support the group's absolutely do 2618 02:35:55,530 --> 02:35:58,190 everything I can to help but not at the expense 2619 02:35:58,190 --> 02:36:01,560 of hurting others and not when it becomes one factor 2620 02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:05,930 or another so I last council meeting said I would 2621 02:36:05,930 --> 02:36:08,660 like to transition this and work with it it gets 2622 02:36:08,660 --> 02:36:11,010 to a point where it's either or and you guys 2623 02:36:11,010 --> 02:36:13,150 are probably witnessing a part of it you know something 2624 02:36:13,150 --> 02:36:15,140 maybe the first time you have people here who are 2625 02:36:15,140 --> 02:36:17,290 just 2626 02:36:17,290 --> 02:36:21,350 agitated I said most polite way 2627 02:36:21,350 --> 02:36:24,100 and I say it really is hard to see the 2628 02:36:24,100 --> 02:36:28,190 negativity so because of that I will support this motion 2629 02:36:28,220 --> 02:36:31,430 to my regret but I will give support and other 2630 02:36:31,430 --> 02:36:33,500 means thank you 2631 02:36:33,500 --> 02:36:36,470 all right and now a 2632 02:36:36,470 --> 02:36:37,950 Castro 2633 02:36:37,950 --> 02:36:40,330 you wish to speak second round 2634 02:36:40,330 --> 02:36:43,260 Sir 2635 02:36:43,260 --> 02:36:45,500 thank you Mr mayor 2636 02:36:45,500 --> 02:36:47,820 I respect you know 2637 02:36:47,820 --> 02:36:50,850 a colleague said different views on this one 2638 02:36:50,850 --> 02:36:53,440 but ... I think ... concert chain made a very 2639 02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:54,920 good point 2640 02:36:54,920 --> 02:36:55,880 the 2641 02:36:55,880 --> 02:36:58,200 which when you created this program 2642 02:36:58,200 --> 02:37:02,480 we call for application people has they have an expectation 2643 02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:06,530 that somehow they're going to get the grant and they 2644 02:37:06,530 --> 02:37:10,350 continue their program to serve all residents 2645 02:37:10,350 --> 02:37:13,360 total taxpayer money 2646 02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:15,390 they can go to federal they can go to provincial 2647 02:37:15,390 --> 02:37:18,450 is getting harder and harder to get provincial and federal 2648 02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,530 funding so they come to us 2649 02:37:21,530 --> 02:37:24,460 and 2650 02:37:24,460 --> 02:37:26,790 at the end of the day it's all taxpayer money 2651 02:37:26,790 --> 02:37:30,120 even though the vehicle to provincial grants federal grant is 2652 02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,220 taxpayer money so I don't think that's the big issue 2653 02:37:33,220 --> 02:37:36,450 here with us but I understand 2654 02:37:36,450 --> 02:37:38,480 there's a favorite or some I don't know but because 2655 02:37:38,480 --> 02:37:41,440 we'd set up set out the criteria 2656 02:37:41,440 --> 02:37:44,370 and these group they all meets our criteria so that 2657 02:37:44,370 --> 02:37:48,030 they kept the finding that the staff suggested 2658 02:37:48,030 --> 02:37:49,940 so I don't see why we are all of a 2659 02:37:49,940 --> 02:37:54,020 sudden you know stopping this this year as I relate 2660 02:37:54,190 --> 02:37:56,550 re iterate you know it if you want to stop 2661 02:37:56,550 --> 02:38:01,130 we can always discuss ... in council about what we 2662 02:38:01,130 --> 02:38:04,120 could do with future but just putting his full stop 2663 02:38:04,120 --> 02:38:07,180 here and telling all of groups at okay no more 2664 02:38:07,180 --> 02:38:09,960 findings go back home 2665 02:38:09,960 --> 02:38:13,140 sorry I can't do that 2666 02:38:13,140 --> 02:38:17,780 okay another second rounder concert chance 2667 02:38:17,780 --> 02:38:21,110 thank you for much ... Mister chair Mister mayor off 2668 02:38:21,340 --> 02:38:23,970 I wasn't think of our second term a second wrong 2669 02:38:23,970 --> 02:38:28,620 but but interesting talking about looking at the funding criteria 2670 02:38:29,140 --> 02:38:32,130 and I look at this program by the way 2671 02:38:32,130 --> 02:38:36,390 while holding hands together talk about communication today ... this 2672 02:38:36,390 --> 02:38:40,050 is a picture tells a thousand things the first thing 2673 02:38:40,380 --> 02:38:45,310 is that the criteria is benefit benefit to should Richmond 2674 02:38:45,310 --> 02:38:50,870 hill in terms of economic impact committee responsiveness and all 2675 02:38:50,990 --> 02:38:55,270 enhancement of Richmond hill is a match now they have 2676 02:38:55,270 --> 02:38:58,340 to do that in addition to other things 2677 02:38:58,340 --> 02:39:01,640 evidence of give me a partnership of law not more 2678 02:39:01,640 --> 02:39:03,980 than five thousand dollars 2679 02:39:03,980 --> 02:39:06,190 you look at the all the way 2680 02:39:06,190 --> 02:39:11,370 one could top one percent meat that is sector investment 2681 02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:14,810 many of these organizations from what I'm granted the list 2682 02:39:15,150 --> 02:39:19,050 I'm not getting five thousand dollars ... somebody be as 2683 02:39:19,050 --> 02:39:23,270 little as five hundred dollars now if it 2684 02:39:23,270 --> 02:39:26,160 five hundred dollars even up to five thousand dollars would 2685 02:39:26,440 --> 02:39:32,110 help to enhance a benefit Richmond hill enhancement of ... 2686 02:39:32,110 --> 02:39:38,560 in may H. community responsiveness engagement economic impact not I 2687 02:39:38,560 --> 02:39:41,460 would have hoped that when they come back with the 2688 02:39:41,460 --> 02:39:46,810 evaluation plan and report that to demonstrate that otherwise I'm 2689 02:39:46,810 --> 02:39:50,370 sure all expressed office hours to three citizen members were 2690 02:39:50,660 --> 02:39:53,600 looking over all this grant application eight sorry you say 2691 02:39:53,600 --> 02:39:55,600 you're going to do is is quick things A. B. 2692 02:39:55,600 --> 02:39:58,900 C. you never deliver that's the end of it may 2693 02:39:58,900 --> 02:40:02,790 be only one one year wonder so I'm going back 2694 02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:06,550 to my my point that up surprise surprise city all 2695 02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:11,200 of Richmond is unlocked the only minister party providing all 2696 02:40:11,290 --> 02:40:13,810 you know they can call different names culture and community 2697 02:40:13,810 --> 02:40:16,570 grant well I don't even want to compare city of 2698 02:40:16,770 --> 02:40:20,560 Toronto which is F. two point seven million people total 2699 02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:24,060 authority but looking at even smaller cities than us I'm 2700 02:40:24,060 --> 02:40:28,800 just picking up right here C. T. often debate 2701 02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:32,850 all your own they have community you'll find cultural funding 2702 02:40:33,110 --> 02:40:37,170 at this mortar feels US cities and towns so again 2703 02:40:37,710 --> 02:40:41,870 hi as I've said before I can also participate because 2704 02:40:41,870 --> 02:40:45,170 all of just in terms of the expectation continues talking 2705 02:40:45,170 --> 02:40:49,900 about people were given the impression nine months ago something 2706 02:40:49,900 --> 02:40:53,460 they can plan for a different office applications almost four 2707 02:40:53,460 --> 02:40:55,860 months later six oh sorry 2708 02:40:55,860 --> 02:40:58,580 stock up if we're doing it again I said I'm 2709 02:40:58,610 --> 02:41:02,460 open minded indeed discussion for budget for twenty twenty one 2710 02:41:03,010 --> 02:41:05,540 maybe this is not the best yourself a sixty thousand 2711 02:41:05,540 --> 02:41:08,550 dollars whatever I'm for it but at the moment the 2712 02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:12,560 game looking at funding criteria these groups they have to 2713 02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:15,600 demonstrate benefit 2714 02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:18,170 to which one it was economic impact I'm sorry we've 2715 02:41:18,170 --> 02:41:20,630 done done but you got my point so I'm not 2716 02:41:20,630 --> 02:41:23,390 going to support this and I I look forward to 2717 02:41:23,390 --> 02:41:25,650 the discussion and twenty twenty one when it got to 2718 02:41:25,650 --> 02:41:28,240 the township will should we thank you and I think 2719 02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:30,830 which we know can do better than maybe I should 2720 02:41:30,830 --> 02:41:34,970 say that thank you 2721 02:41:34,970 --> 02:41:38,710 shares thank you Mr mayor to ... to wrap up 2722 02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,920 ... 2723 02:41:40,920 --> 02:41:43,420 I did just want to be clear because I'm hearing 2724 02:41:43,420 --> 02:41:47,690 from some of my colleagues and I I respectfully disagree 2725 02:41:47,690 --> 02:41:50,190 with them ... 2726 02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:54,010 they would have invaded the applicant's would've been told very 2727 02:41:54,010 --> 02:41:58,600 clearly by staff that there is no money until council 2728 02:41:58,600 --> 02:42:03,010 votes so an expectation that they had a check already 2729 02:42:03,010 --> 02:42:05,880 in the mail if staff told them that I don't 2730 02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:09,210 believe they would have if they thought that by accident 2731 02:42:09,570 --> 02:42:12,360 well we all know that that's not true 2732 02:42:12,360 --> 02:42:15,420 many people filled out applications to get a bank loan 2733 02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:17,320 or to get a mortgage to buy a house and 2734 02:42:17,320 --> 02:42:20,890 they know until the bank comes back with here is 2735 02:42:20,890 --> 02:42:24,600 your approval you don't get money that's just a fact 2736 02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:27,380 of life so to suggest 2737 02:42:27,380 --> 02:42:31,380 that people were expecting it it's council that makes the 2738 02:42:31,380 --> 02:42:35,190 decision so everyone knew that so I I don't believe 2739 02:42:35,190 --> 02:42:38,030 there was an expectation and that we're leaving people in 2740 02:42:38,030 --> 02:42:39,760 the lurch 2741 02:42:39,760 --> 02:42:43,420 ... it is curious it's been twenty one days since 2742 02:42:43,420 --> 02:42:45,460 I made that motion 2743 02:42:45,460 --> 02:42:47,960 that was a bit curious M. M. is my office 2744 02:42:47,960 --> 02:42:51,830 going to be flooded with residents I gonna get petitions 2745 02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:54,350 is is the phones would be ringing off the hook 2746 02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:58,770 you know monitoring social media 2747 02:42:58,770 --> 02:43:02,190 which pretty much crickets 2748 02:43:02,190 --> 02:43:04,150 life just kept going on it was in the local 2749 02:43:04,150 --> 02:43:07,970 newspapers you know so it was publicized 2750 02:43:07,970 --> 02:43:11,540 so the message for me was was strong that I 2751 02:43:11,540 --> 02:43:14,000 was still on the right path and and I feel 2752 02:43:14,110 --> 02:43:17,140 I feel badly for the organizations that are now having 2753 02:43:17,140 --> 02:43:20,940 to seek alternative financing yeah I belong to other organizations 2754 02:43:20,940 --> 02:43:24,060 that that don't come here they just speak the funding 2755 02:43:24,060 --> 02:43:26,240 from the community they get it in a move on 2756 02:43:26,870 --> 02:43:30,700 so I I I I know the resourcefulness the ingenuity 2757 02:43:30,700 --> 02:43:35,130 of our community that people steer their ship somewhere else 2758 02:43:35,130 --> 02:43:38,370 in the continue one ... 2759 02:43:38,370 --> 02:43:40,970 so I'd say Mr mayor thank you 2760 02:43:40,970 --> 02:43:42,860 all right 2761 02:43:42,860 --> 02:43:45,500 yes okay before the vote 2762 02:43:45,500 --> 02:43:53,680 quotable yes yeah 2763 02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:57,620 I'm so sorry no I'm sorry so my 2764 02:43:57,620 --> 02:44:03,150 for calling the vote on it's telling 2765 02:44:03,150 --> 02:44:05,840 she was not a delicate 2766 02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:08,110 15 minutes 2767 02:44:08,110 --> 02:44:09,860 the 2768 02:44:09,860 --> 02:44:13,700 that's right I just don't understand 2769 02:44:13,700 --> 02:44:17,680 the decision 2770 02:44:17,680 --> 02:44:20,230 okay that's fine no there with the delegation we have 2771 02:44:20,230 --> 02:44:22,390 signed up for and then tore you speak at the 2772 02:44:22,390 --> 02:44:27,780 beginning so to speak okay 2773 02:44:27,780 --> 02:44:33,450 that's fine that's all yeah okay please come forward 2774 02:44:33,450 --> 02:44:36,080 05 2775 02:44:36,080 --> 02:44:40,280 D. A. why say something is not on the agenda 2776 02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:44,120 okay we finance 2777 02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:46,750 hi this 2778 02:44:46,750 --> 02:44:49,900 okay members accounts so we're in favor of you speaking 2779 02:44:49,900 --> 02:44:54,480 yeah now we're not gonna open up many many people 2780 02:44:54,480 --> 02:44:59,020 last year we haven't 2781 02:44:59,020 --> 02:45:01,620 there is no 2782 02:45:01,620 --> 02:45:05,190 that's work 2783 02:45:05,190 --> 02:45:08,830 well there were no questions 2784 02:45:08,830 --> 02:45:11,610 I just want to speak in support of the cultural 2785 02:45:11,610 --> 02:45:15,080 grant I represent course your person heading into our fourth 2786 02:45:15,080 --> 02:45:18,370 season and we have presented three to four concerts a 2787 02:45:18,370 --> 02:45:21,120 year we work with the symphony ... we have worked 2788 02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:24,010 with the Historical Society we have been connecting with other 2789 02:45:24,590 --> 02:45:27,630 groups we are based in Richmond hill ... we don't 2790 02:45:27,630 --> 02:45:30,630 run rely solely on the ... on cultural granted it 2791 02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:33,510 has been very helpful we have a professional director ... 2792 02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:36,920 we're trying to provide ... and promote the culture of 2793 02:45:36,920 --> 02:45:41,460 ... through music in ... in Richmond hill so ... 2794 02:45:41,570 --> 02:45:44,400 I really feel I think history has proven that ... 2795 02:45:44,400 --> 02:45:47,700 societies that kind of turned it back on culture ... 2796 02:45:47,730 --> 02:45:50,740 live to regret it so and we have tried to 2797 02:45:50,740 --> 02:45:53,420 reach out to others in the community ... we have 2798 02:45:53,420 --> 02:45:57,360 had some support but to produce the quality of the 2799 02:45:57,360 --> 02:46:01,320 product we need money and ... yeah and we have 2800 02:46:01,320 --> 02:46:04,360 a symphony here represented we have other groups that are 2801 02:46:04,570 --> 02:46:08,970 represented and ... it's been proven that music is ... 2802 02:46:08,970 --> 02:46:12,700 inspirational it's healthy it's it helps people in a variety 2803 02:46:12,700 --> 02:46:17,940 of levels motional physical ... it's very valuable and ... 2804 02:46:18,030 --> 02:46:20,770 Chris it's a topic dear to my heart I am 2805 02:46:20,770 --> 02:46:23,510 a retired music teacher and I live in Richmond hill 2806 02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:26,320 for many years so I really would hate to see 2807 02:46:26,320 --> 02:46:30,460 this grant ... disappear so and if anyone else like 2808 02:46:30,460 --> 02:46:33,840 to speak to that please tell 2809 02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:36,820 thank you for your views spoke of stood up at 2810 02:46:36,820 --> 02:46:41,460 the very beginning so aggressiveness fairness 2811 02:46:41,460 --> 02:46:45,310 all right to call her thank you to Mister mayor 2812 02:46:45,310 --> 02:46:51,120 voting on the motion of cancer barrels cancer chan no 2813 02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:53,360 cancer early you 2814 02:46:53,360 --> 02:46:57,510 cancer Verreaux's mayor pero 2815 02:46:57,510 --> 02:46:58,660 no 2816 02:46:58,660 --> 02:47:01,940 regional local culture to Paula yes 2817 02:47:01,940 --> 02:47:10,310 reach a local councillor pearly yes councillor Munch yes 2818 02:47:10,310 --> 02:47:14,990 that motion carries only 2819 02:47:14,990 --> 02:47:22,360 okay 2820 02:47:22,360 --> 02:47:25,490 we have 2 more items 2821 02:47:25,490 --> 02:47:35,380 if we do 2822 02:47:35,380 --> 02:47:43,580 1370 2823 02:47:43,580 --> 02:47:47,070 the ticket right 2824 02:47:47,070 --> 02:47:48,760 all 2825 02:47:48,760 --> 02:47:54,890 we should get close to him okay should we got 2826 02:47:54,890 --> 02:47:55,980 trucks 2827 02:47:55,980 --> 02:47:59,180 all 2828 02:47:59,180 --> 02:48:00,560 okay 2829 02:48:00,560 --> 02:48:03,390 global 2830 02:48:03,390 --> 02:48:07,430 I'm gonna finish this 2831 02:48:07,430 --> 02:48:09,600 the 2832 02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:14,720 the street name 2833 02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:17,030 yeah okay 2834 02:48:17,030 --> 02:48:21,500 sure enough thirteen seven the ... private street naming consular 2835 02:48:21,710 --> 02:48:23,960 plumbers want 2836 02:48:23,960 --> 02:48:26,150 those are coming 2837 02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:29,520 yes 2838 02:48:29,520 --> 02:48:32,350 thank you Mister Maher 2839 02:48:32,350 --> 02:48:37,020 V. E. day victory day date of may 2840 02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:39,990 it'll be 75 years 2841 02:48:39,990 --> 02:48:43,160 since the guns fell silent 2842 02:48:43,160 --> 02:48:47,940 and the world was changed forever 2843 02:48:47,940 --> 02:48:54,100 we celebrate the sacrifices we mourn the losses of those 2844 02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:56,940 that have gone before us 2845 02:48:56,940 --> 02:49:01,310 and I want to thank staff for taking the words 2846 02:49:01,310 --> 02:49:04,750 the council gave them a while ago in working with 2847 02:49:04,750 --> 02:49:08,590 the legion to find members of our community 2848 02:49:08,590 --> 02:49:10,780 to put on street names 2849 02:49:10,780 --> 02:49:13,430 so that we will not forget so I'm happy to 2850 02:49:13,430 --> 02:49:16,690 move the motion for this private street naming which yet 2851 02:49:16,690 --> 02:49:21,800 again puts veterans names on streets in Richmond hill with 2852 02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:23,130 a popping 2853 02:49:23,130 --> 02:49:25,970 so the people don't forget thank you Mr mayor 2854 02:49:25,970 --> 02:49:30,870 all right very well said 2855 02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:35,290 we have a number second there his brother comments on 2856 02:49:35,530 --> 02:49:37,210 this site 2857 02:49:37,210 --> 02:49:44,620 all those in favor of toasted Calrissian animacy 2858 02:49:44,620 --> 02:49:47,570 all right 2859 02:49:47,570 --> 02:49:49,520 it's just okay I just wanted to see where we 2860 02:49:49,520 --> 02:49:52,500 are so we have the the budget 2861 02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:54,250 it's a deal with although I think that's going to 2862 02:49:54,800 --> 02:50:00,060 be fairly sex partner yes we will yeah I was 2863 02:50:00,060 --> 02:50:02,050 still with the budget and then we'll move to the 2864 02:50:02,050 --> 02:50:04,650 next item and it's been a good camera with this 2865 02:50:05,210 --> 02:50:06,490 camera 2866 02:50:06,490 --> 02:50:10,830 there's the concession refuse to 2867 02:50:10,830 --> 02:50:14,080 so we've got a lot of work yeah yeah right 2868 02:50:14,440 --> 02:50:17,110 okay what 2869 02:50:17,110 --> 02:50:20,750 we talked about we will 2870 02:50:20,750 --> 02:50:23,930 but 2871 02:50:23,930 --> 02:50:27,840 okay the budget but a budget so it's still with 2872 02:50:27,840 --> 02:50:29,890 the budget to do with it I don't like that 2873 02:50:29,890 --> 02:50:32,720 is there any issues with the button 2874 02:50:32,720 --> 02:50:35,180 turn the turn to 2875 02:50:35,180 --> 02:50:39,400 yeah syncing up thirteen three strategist in there just proposed 2876 02:50:39,400 --> 02:50:42,920 to move the staff recommendations that we the the budget 2877 02:50:42,920 --> 02:50:46,540 has forwarded to budge from budget committee we were all 2878 02:50:46,540 --> 02:50:50,500 there will will hold nothing's changed it's been ... ... 2879 02:50:51,670 --> 02:50:54,200 since the change of been a corporate into these final 2880 02:50:54,200 --> 02:50:57,500 figures and amounts and I just happen to move that 2881 02:50:57,500 --> 02:51:02,640 a congratulations all those involved again ... very ... a 2882 02:51:02,640 --> 02:51:06,380 very positive going for going forward look for Richmond hill 2883 02:51:06,590 --> 02:51:12,540 always that's responsible and looking at our long term viability 2884 02:51:12,540 --> 02:51:15,160 second the 2885 02:51:15,160 --> 02:51:17,810 the man happy to second the motion 2886 02:51:17,810 --> 02:51:20,880 okay 2887 02:51:20,880 --> 02:51:24,970 sure well we are we just doing the revised recommendations 2888 02:51:24,970 --> 02:51:32,180 from this to Texas ... momentum that was the first 2889 02:51:32,180 --> 02:51:34,690 okay 2890 02:51:34,690 --> 02:51:39,550 because I would like a separated please 2891 02:51:39,550 --> 02:51:42,550 I would like a separated out 2892 02:51:42,550 --> 02:51:47,070 okay and then asking for a recorded vote 2893 02:51:47,070 --> 02:51:54,820 all right let's get this 2894 02:51:54,820 --> 02:51:59,470 back to 2895 02:51:59,470 --> 02:52:02,840 okay thirteen twelve and it was the memo the ... 2896 02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:07,440 that we received one seventy one of one seventy five 2897 02:52:07,440 --> 02:52:11,510 the revised recommendations and I'm I'm sorry the recommendation number 2898 02:52:11,510 --> 02:52:16,040 that you wish so I went a step further Hey 2899 02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:18,340 for Citrix for yeah 2900 02:52:18,340 --> 02:52:21,820 yeah a one to be separated out from the rest 2901 02:52:21,850 --> 02:52:25,490 okay and recorded votes for both please 2902 02:52:25,490 --> 02:52:28,540 15 comments 2903 02:52:28,540 --> 02:52:32,360 they want to skip the full 2904 02:52:32,360 --> 02:52:34,940 the 5 2905 02:52:34,940 --> 02:52:38,580 okay so we've got 2906 02:52:38,580 --> 02:52:41,790 well it's it's a one it's the one that we 2907 02:52:41,790 --> 02:52:48,320 got the memo we 2908 02:52:48,320 --> 02:52:52,330 well received has any comment I have 2909 02:52:52,330 --> 02:52:53,870 I have it here 2910 02:52:53,870 --> 02:52:55,780 there 2911 02:52:55,780 --> 02:52:57,640 there you go 2912 02:52:57,640 --> 02:53:02,190 so referring to yes the A. one regarding the firefighters 2913 02:53:02,190 --> 02:53:07,110 I want that separated out not a A. one 2914 02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:10,400 okay 2915 02:53:10,400 --> 02:53:13,160 Mr Clark with this other 2916 02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:16,360 comments that could do it 2917 02:53:16,360 --> 02:53:18,920 gradually stir 2918 02:53:18,920 --> 02:53:20,200 but 2919 02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:22,980 through Mister mayor voting on ... so I'm going to 2920 02:53:23,070 --> 02:53:24,730 pull up that one and they will vote on all 2921 02:53:24,730 --> 02:53:27,690 the rest of closes out my understanding yes so ... 2922 02:53:28,050 --> 02:53:29,910 voting on 2923 02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:35,550 some because a one culture silhouettes no 2924 02:53:35,550 --> 02:53:37,150 0 2925 02:53:37,150 --> 02:53:39,160 cancer Leo 2926 02:53:39,160 --> 02:53:43,910 reach a local councillor Paula yes cancer Munch yes cancer 2927 02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:47,650 Verreaux's cancer chan no 2928 02:53:47,650 --> 02:53:54,200 region local cancer proudly yes cancer west 2929 02:53:54,200 --> 02:53:58,550 so because A. one carries only voting on the remainder 2930 02:53:58,550 --> 02:54:02,890 of the motion cancer cell events yes reach a local 2931 02:54:02,890 --> 02:54:07,150 councillor Paula yes cancer Leo 2932 02:54:07,150 --> 02:54:13,190 cancer Verreaux's regional cancer probably yes cancer Munch 2933 02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:16,960 cancer chan yes cancer west 2934 02:54:16,960 --> 02:54:19,270 Miro yes 2935 02:54:19,270 --> 02:54:22,260 the balance of the motion carries unanimously in the entire 2936 02:54:22,260 --> 02:54:24,280 motion is carried 2937 02:54:24,280 --> 02:54:27,160 thank you good very good answers and gradually thanks to 2938 02:54:27,160 --> 02:54:30,500 a treasure finance team 2939 02:54:30,500 --> 02:54:32,750 okay we are going to take a break for a 2940 02:54:32,750 --> 02:54:34,240 while 2941 02:54:34,240 --> 02:54:39,550 of all 2942 02:54:39,550 --> 02:54:43,420 okay 11 2943 02:54:43,420 --> 02:54:44,860 all 25 2944 02:54:44,860 --> 02:54:49,000 additionally back in one second one 2945 02:54:49,000 --> 02:54:59,290 so 2946 03:33:24,070 --> 03:33:25,300 back 2947 03:33:25,300 --> 03:33:26,410 yeah 2948 03:33:26,410 --> 03:33:29,470 so we do have a lot of 2949 03:33:29,470 --> 03:33:31,350 sensitive 2950 03:33:31,350 --> 03:33:37,410 I have this right what 2951 03:33:37,410 --> 03:33:41,290 would you wish to 2952 03:33:41,290 --> 03:33:43,520 well of 2953 03:33:43,520 --> 03:33:46,570 this is regarding the 2954 03:33:46,570 --> 03:33:50,420 we've already started 2955 03:33:50,420 --> 03:33:53,180 words to I'm gonna talk for just more to just 2956 03:33:53,180 --> 03:33:55,590 because the way our councils 2957 03:33:55,590 --> 03:33:59,110 the word word word to specifically and some members of 2958 03:33:59,110 --> 03:34:03,030 council knew that on January the eleventh 2959 03:34:03,030 --> 03:34:05,120 we had a massive 2960 03:34:05,120 --> 03:34:08,200 event because on me on January tenth we each received 2961 03:34:08,200 --> 03:34:10,450 an email from Elektra telling us that the major event 2962 03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:13,480 ... for this water's coming in 2963 03:34:13,480 --> 03:34:17,000 the sewers backed up in York region which meant all 2964 03:34:17,000 --> 03:34:19,400 of our sewer that feeds into York region was back 2965 03:34:19,400 --> 03:34:20,720 flowed in 2966 03:34:20,720 --> 03:34:25,740 so those homeowners who the current provincial building code requires 2967 03:34:25,740 --> 03:34:30,010 new housing to have back flow valves anybody who lives 2968 03:34:30,010 --> 03:34:32,650 in an older unit 2969 03:34:32,650 --> 03:34:34,780 likely does not have a back flow valve and if 2970 03:34:34,780 --> 03:34:37,770 they were at a low point 2971 03:34:37,770 --> 03:34:43,390 the sewer from the Richmond hill city went into those 2972 03:34:43,390 --> 03:34:45,550 people's homes for 2973 03:34:45,550 --> 03:34:48,690 and what's funny is you could have a semi detached 2974 03:34:48,690 --> 03:34:51,920 house and house one would get it and hopes to 2975 03:34:52,120 --> 03:34:53,670 didn't 2976 03:34:53,670 --> 03:34:55,420 right next to each other 2977 03:34:55,420 --> 03:35:00,600 I've been contacted by people throughout Richmond hill when I 2978 03:35:00,600 --> 03:35:03,270 met no frills were real female people they're coming around 2979 03:35:03,270 --> 03:35:06,350 Richmond hill it's really remarkable 2980 03:35:06,350 --> 03:35:09,550 I've since learned that residents have outraged and I've gone 2981 03:35:09,550 --> 03:35:12,360 to the newspaper and the trauma star and I'm expecting 2982 03:35:12,360 --> 03:35:16,170 an article I got an email from couple news outlets 2983 03:35:16,170 --> 03:35:18,740 so what my motion is today's to say and what 2984 03:35:18,740 --> 03:35:22,300 we agreed with staff I've had private meetings and I 2985 03:35:22,300 --> 03:35:25,650 respect what different word counts and have their meetings so 2986 03:35:25,650 --> 03:35:27,990 when they have their meetings I don't interchange I mean 2987 03:35:27,990 --> 03:35:29,800 there's still a spirit I'm gonna do what I do 2988 03:35:29,800 --> 03:35:32,950 my work explain it to you so I engage with 2989 03:35:32,950 --> 03:35:38,690 stakeholders from the garbage residents businesses staff 2990 03:35:38,690 --> 03:35:44,170 leadership and and the you know white blue collar 2991 03:35:44,170 --> 03:35:46,890 and what we've agreed is that we're going to continue 2992 03:35:46,890 --> 03:35:49,330 to research to find out how many people really affected 2993 03:35:49,360 --> 03:35:51,900 try to get a framework of thought number two what 2994 03:35:51,900 --> 03:35:55,030 we agreed to with the help of of Elmar another's 2995 03:35:55,510 --> 03:35:58,480 and mayor who gave the idea 2996 03:35:58,480 --> 03:36:00,550 saying that we should try to make sure that the 2997 03:36:00,550 --> 03:36:02,890 garbage people when they're driving up and down the street 2998 03:36:03,020 --> 03:36:06,480 that they actually will pick up the garbage that's left 2999 03:36:06,480 --> 03:36:09,530 over from the remnants of that 3000 03:36:09,530 --> 03:36:12,250 just so we're clear here another thing I know is 3001 03:36:12,250 --> 03:36:14,260 that our 3002 03:36:14,260 --> 03:36:16,360 depending on which insurance company you're with you're gonna get 3003 03:36:16,360 --> 03:36:20,860 a different result so some insurance companies say that contamination 3004 03:36:20,970 --> 03:36:23,210 just wipe it off with a cloth I want to 3005 03:36:23,210 --> 03:36:25,140 try your fine 3006 03:36:25,140 --> 03:36:28,970 there are other other insurance companies that say 3007 03:36:28,970 --> 03:36:31,380 other insurance companies so if you have a washer and 3008 03:36:31,380 --> 03:36:35,450 dryer fewer fridge in the basement just unplug it assuming 3009 03:36:35,450 --> 03:36:38,330 the electrical wasn't hit and once the letter freon said 3010 03:36:38,330 --> 03:36:40,730 anything else it put it back in your good and 3011 03:36:40,730 --> 03:36:43,950 when they start the dryer the furnace ... it emits 3012 03:36:44,050 --> 03:36:47,040 heat or anything else sometimes those people are fellow feeling 3013 03:36:47,040 --> 03:36:50,600 you're smelling a residue and the insurance people are local 3014 03:36:51,190 --> 03:36:55,060 TV an expectation from a resident 3015 03:36:55,060 --> 03:36:57,680 yeah ... but if I'm a resident they say when 3016 03:36:57,680 --> 03:36:59,470 I flush the toilet I expected to go out of 3017 03:36:59,470 --> 03:37:02,380 my house they don't have an expectation of in the 3018 03:37:02,380 --> 03:37:05,880 middle of the five o'clock on a Saturday and all 3019 03:37:05,880 --> 03:37:12,220 the sudden be parted and flooded with waste 3020 03:37:12,220 --> 03:37:15,130 so their expectations will the city must be responsible this 3021 03:37:15,130 --> 03:37:18,190 is not a city of Richmond hill issue 3022 03:37:18,190 --> 03:37:21,240 per se it is but it isn't this case was 3023 03:37:21,240 --> 03:37:25,140 the region was overwhelmed through a event that took place 3024 03:37:25,500 --> 03:37:30,070 and our capacity couldn't handle it and it it enacted 3025 03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:33,040 some people so what I'm asking is in the motion 3026 03:37:33,040 --> 03:37:35,440 is number to where we're starting we're getting information out 3027 03:37:35,440 --> 03:37:39,990 there we're gonna communicated to communicate with residents ... I've 3028 03:37:39,990 --> 03:37:43,900 heard from a number of residents across Richmond hill 3029 03:37:43,900 --> 03:37:47,190 and I'm saying that when they have once we learned 3030 03:37:47,190 --> 03:37:48,680 of these 3031 03:37:48,680 --> 03:37:53,240 situation those households should have their garbage picked up 3032 03:37:53,240 --> 03:37:56,210 so I'd like to say for the stress motion today 3033 03:37:56,330 --> 03:37:59,970 the only thing is to say when we know ... 3034 03:38:00,000 --> 03:38:04,680 that we have a reasonable compromise that this is from 3035 03:38:04,710 --> 03:38:08,300 an extraneous event you see coaches and and you know 3036 03:38:08,850 --> 03:38:13,640 ... dishwashers new see Bellamy in a cabin a tree 3037 03:38:13,870 --> 03:38:17,240 and carpets outside 3038 03:38:17,240 --> 03:38:19,610 then would like that the picked up because I really 3039 03:38:19,610 --> 03:38:21,270 don't want to be sitting on the street for another 3040 03:38:21,270 --> 03:38:23,620 month or somebody else I don't wanna be a dumping 3041 03:38:23,620 --> 03:38:26,870 ground for others sore asking if we could ask Miller 3042 03:38:26,870 --> 03:38:30,030 and stuff to try to accommodate that by giving either 3043 03:38:30,270 --> 03:38:33,250 these garbage tags to select the people so does become 3044 03:38:33,250 --> 03:38:37,170 a free for all for garbage and ... 3045 03:38:37,170 --> 03:38:38,840 you know if they won't have a contact in contact 3046 03:38:38,840 --> 03:38:43,420 me or contact their member of council 3047 03:38:43,420 --> 03:38:45,910 and then with further research to be done to see 3048 03:38:45,910 --> 03:38:48,770 what next steps we as council can do to help 3049 03:38:48,770 --> 03:38:51,540 the people of Richmond 3050 03:38:51,540 --> 03:38:55,390 correct correct it's just 3051 03:38:55,390 --> 03:38:56,850 with 3052 03:38:56,850 --> 03:38:59,700 first thing is stuff the judge of conflict or is 3053 03:38:59,700 --> 03:39:03,410 he going to use to call into question waste waste 3054 03:39:03,410 --> 03:39:10,320 from people who have been impacted by the January eleventh 3055 03:39:10,320 --> 03:39:17,190 flood 3056 03:39:17,190 --> 03:39:21,220 and that ... if residents are impacted they can they 3057 03:39:21,220 --> 03:39:25,980 should be contacting the member of council 3058 03:39:25,980 --> 03:39:28,840 and that's it 3059 03:39:28,840 --> 03:39:35,160 why did we get 3060 03:39:35,160 --> 03:39:38,000 you certainly 3061 03:39:38,000 --> 03:39:41,120 okay perfection is 3062 03:39:41,120 --> 03:39:43,030 the status 3063 03:39:43,030 --> 03:39:45,540 this happened 3064 03:39:45,540 --> 03:39:47,880 right the 3065 03:39:47,880 --> 03:39:49,670 hello 3066 03:39:49,670 --> 03:39:51,460 13 3067 03:39:51,460 --> 03:39:53,280 okay 3068 03:39:53,280 --> 03:39:55,870 it seems to be a long time but it took 3069 03:39:55,870 --> 03:40:03,360 a long time for things other than the fact 3070 03:40:03,360 --> 03:40:11,520 we aware of that either all of the region we 3071 03:40:11,520 --> 03:40:13,820 let me just if I may three Miss America from 3072 03:40:13,820 --> 03:40:16,750 ... from operations are on the road perspective and appreciate 3073 03:40:17,060 --> 03:40:21,560 councilman should cancer munches comments with ... speaking with staff 3074 03:40:21,560 --> 03:40:24,880 on the serve on the ground issues and we're definitely 3075 03:40:24,880 --> 03:40:27,420 looking at supporting and I understand there's a meeting with 3076 03:40:27,850 --> 03:40:29,860 with a couple of staff in the some survey work 3077 03:40:29,860 --> 03:40:31,860 to happen and I know with with with our water 3078 03:40:31,860 --> 03:40:35,130 operations which operations guys they're just went away for some 3079 03:40:35,130 --> 03:40:37,480 feedback and see what things we can do so there's 3080 03:40:37,480 --> 03:40:38,620 some 3081 03:40:38,620 --> 03:40:41,190 article things that we were happy to assist with wherever 3082 03:40:41,190 --> 03:40:44,830 we can without creating the president essentially ... that's the 3083 03:40:44,830 --> 03:40:48,460 idea ... but they're also legal aspects or ... you 3084 03:40:48,460 --> 03:40:51,900 know liability aspects which I think maybe ... twenty would 3085 03:40:51,900 --> 03:40:54,950 be pro better speak to with regards to the comments 3086 03:40:54,950 --> 03:40:57,650 are getting from residents claims are told to get claims 3087 03:40:57,650 --> 03:41:00,460 them too right that's another aspect of it on the 3088 03:41:00,460 --> 03:41:03,890 way side I I I do understand that ... Miller 3089 03:41:03,890 --> 03:41:07,540 will pick up any material the cabinet with material and 3090 03:41:07,540 --> 03:41:10,960 this is one I'm not so sure was construction material 3091 03:41:10,960 --> 03:41:14,290 it's all it's all the carpeting and household stuff yes 3092 03:41:14,290 --> 03:41:16,140 so that should be an issue because obviously with the 3093 03:41:16,140 --> 03:41:19,860 construction material ... the region one except that the estimate 3094 03:41:19,860 --> 03:41:22,420 your recovery say and that creates a whole other challenge 3095 03:41:22,740 --> 03:41:25,110 ... but if that's something that council must pursue we 3096 03:41:25,110 --> 03:41:26,560 can also 3097 03:41:26,560 --> 03:41:30,230 yes so but definitely we get whatever we can do 3098 03:41:30,230 --> 03:41:32,850 as far as operationally to to support the community if 3099 03:41:32,850 --> 03:41:35,620 they're still people in need of you know what this 3100 03:41:35,620 --> 03:41:38,570 collection or or some support and we can do what 3101 03:41:38,570 --> 03:41:41,190 we can with regards to our our current policies I 3102 03:41:41,190 --> 03:41:43,840 guess the best way to describe it is that fair 3103 03:41:43,840 --> 03:41:46,920 okay first 3104 03:41:46,920 --> 03:41:49,370 we contacted Miller 3105 03:41:49,370 --> 03:41:52,990 this week 3106 03:41:52,990 --> 03:41:54,380 in order 3107 03:41:54,380 --> 03:42:00,740 this week he said toggle between 3108 03:42:00,740 --> 03:42:02,450 we'll 3109 03:42:02,450 --> 03:42:05,150 people will even look after that for Houston Miller has 3110 03:42:05,150 --> 03:42:07,750 been really really good I just don't want to burden 3111 03:42:07,780 --> 03:42:10,030 I want to make an expectation across which my wife 3112 03:42:10,130 --> 03:42:12,010 for anybody throw as much garbage as they want to 3113 03:42:12,010 --> 03:42:15,000 factor into this is really just designed for this particular 3114 03:42:15,000 --> 03:42:16,580 area 3115 03:42:16,580 --> 03:42:20,220 the positive thoughts 3116 03:42:20,220 --> 03:42:23,310 as a friend 3117 03:42:23,310 --> 03:42:25,160 our 3118 03:42:25,160 --> 03:42:29,450 okay Bill Clinton permanent 3119 03:42:29,450 --> 03:42:33,580 yeah we've got claims where ... Valerie open and risk 3120 03:42:33,580 --> 03:42:36,280 managements got letters out to the community 3121 03:42:36,280 --> 03:42:38,920 I've seen I've seen at least for the 3122 03:42:38,920 --> 03:42:44,960 yes 3123 03:42:44,960 --> 03:42:47,310 L. three Mister mayor there are claims and claims are 3124 03:42:47,310 --> 03:42:52,740 being processed and I don't have anything else that 3125 03:42:52,740 --> 03:42:55,830 what's what's the difference 3126 03:42:55,830 --> 03:42:58,200 I have to do anything 3127 03:42:58,200 --> 03:43:00,430 we'll help you 3128 03:43:00,430 --> 03:43:03,350 what you do and how you doing it's great can't 3129 03:43:03,350 --> 03:43:05,310 do it right 3130 03:43:05,310 --> 03:43:10,390 his track it back to whoever 3131 03:43:10,390 --> 03:43:16,760 with the 3132 03:43:16,760 --> 03:43:20,840 we actually have this 3133 03:43:20,840 --> 03:43:23,580 okay just just with what we're trying to do is 3134 03:43:23,580 --> 03:43:27,400 make sure everybody's working on something that's so big your 3135 03:43:27,400 --> 03:43:29,360 training 3136 03:43:29,360 --> 03:43:31,040 also 3137 03:43:31,040 --> 03:43:33,860 we're all such 3138 03:43:33,860 --> 03:43:36,600 some say it again memory 3139 03:43:36,600 --> 03:43:40,430 ask questions sure go ahead my next day cancer probably 3140 03:43:40,430 --> 03:43:42,880 at his 3141 03:43:42,880 --> 03:43:45,250 hi I just want to second the motion okay fair 3142 03:43:45,250 --> 03:43:47,500 enough that's good 3143 03:43:47,500 --> 03:43:48,820 thank you 3144 03:43:48,820 --> 03:43:52,120 okay I I'm not quite clear on on what we're 3145 03:43:52,260 --> 03:43:56,270 doing here ... seconds ask questions just make sure I'm 3146 03:43:56,270 --> 03:44:00,520 clear so we're essentially this motion is that we're going 3147 03:44:00,520 --> 03:44:05,840 to be asking staff to determine how to get rid 3148 03:44:05,840 --> 03:44:09,940 of any material from flooded residences that haven't already done 3149 03:44:09,940 --> 03:44:12,590 so I I only know of one person in my 3150 03:44:12,590 --> 03:44:15,200 ward that has had a problem it wasn't because of 3151 03:44:15,200 --> 03:44:18,110 a back up it was probably because of another issue 3152 03:44:18,110 --> 03:44:22,180 that was private but ... their their stuff is long 3153 03:44:22,180 --> 03:44:25,240 since gone in a dumpster because the insurance company would 3154 03:44:25,240 --> 03:44:28,600 pay for that so are we getting the sense that 3155 03:44:28,600 --> 03:44:32,030 there are people out there that are not having that 3156 03:44:32,440 --> 03:44:36,030 cost covered by their insurance companies and that is what 3157 03:44:36,030 --> 03:44:38,060 the reason the need that were responding no I just 3158 03:44:38,060 --> 03:44:39,740 wanna be clear I try to find I have not 3159 03:44:39,740 --> 03:44:43,140 heard this ... so I need to know understand this 3160 03:44:43,140 --> 03:44:46,480 before I can vote so as to you Mister mayor 3161 03:44:46,750 --> 03:44:49,190 commissioner or to legal or to anybody I I don't 3162 03:44:49,190 --> 03:44:51,460 really know 3163 03:44:51,460 --> 03:44:53,750 Hey Mr mayor I I don't know the extent of 3164 03:44:53,750 --> 03:44:58,000 the on street issue Sir I mean we've gone through 3165 03:44:58,000 --> 03:45:02,530 two collection cycles now right so it may be vastly 3166 03:45:02,530 --> 03:45:06,070 cleaned up ... maybe maybe cancer much maybe more where 3167 03:45:06,070 --> 03:45:08,140 what's happening within his work but I'm I'm not here 3168 03:45:08,140 --> 03:45:09,970 I'm not getting I haven't one phone call on this 3169 03:45:09,970 --> 03:45:13,010 matter so so to me it's it's really sort of 3170 03:45:13,010 --> 03:45:15,760 business as usual with regards to 3171 03:45:15,760 --> 03:45:17,840 okay so how long will it take to get a 3172 03:45:17,840 --> 03:45:21,000 report back from staff because I mean clearly if somebody's 3173 03:45:21,000 --> 03:45:23,560 got a pile of rotting garbage for the lot since 3174 03:45:23,560 --> 03:45:27,920 July that or sorry January the eleventh ... and it 3175 03:45:28,030 --> 03:45:30,690 takes a couple more weeks and our help isn't going 3176 03:45:30,690 --> 03:45:33,700 to be helpful 3177 03:45:33,700 --> 03:45:36,460 someone has been done already well that's why I'm asking 3178 03:45:36,460 --> 03:45:39,680 I'm asking what the residual need that we're actually talking 3179 03:45:39,680 --> 03:45:42,750 about and I really don't have enough information at this 3180 03:45:42,750 --> 03:45:44,560 point to help to help me to make the decision 3181 03:45:44,560 --> 03:45:47,490 I understand what counts so much said but ... but 3182 03:45:47,520 --> 03:45:50,570 I'm not getting the same date data back to me 3183 03:45:50,920 --> 03:45:54,010 but that's fine I mean I'm just not aware of 3184 03:45:54,010 --> 03:45:57,500 the issue the issue to the degree that the movers 3185 03:45:57,720 --> 03:46:01,200 so if you can give me any insight on that 3186 03:46:01,200 --> 03:46:04,800 yes certainly certainly yeah so everybody is called me I've 3187 03:46:04,800 --> 03:46:07,970 asked questions when did it happen when you realize what 3188 03:46:07,970 --> 03:46:10,590 you do who's your insurance company ... what has been 3189 03:46:10,590 --> 03:46:14,260 the reaction where you at now the process who contacted 3190 03:46:14,360 --> 03:46:16,880 have you felt any claims as many feedback have you 3191 03:46:16,880 --> 03:46:20,380 talked your claims adjuster yeah yeah yeah it's your question 3192 03:46:20,380 --> 03:46:24,220 is if you have specific sewer 3193 03:46:24,220 --> 03:46:27,320 backup health insurance 3194 03:46:27,320 --> 03:46:28,860 no limit 3195 03:46:28,860 --> 03:46:31,590 they'll come from what most residents did as they contacted 3196 03:46:31,590 --> 03:46:34,290 their insurance company the time it happens soon as they 3197 03:46:34,290 --> 03:46:35,730 realized it 3198 03:46:35,730 --> 03:46:39,080 the if they were clean up themselves ... there they 3199 03:46:39,080 --> 03:46:42,320 then had a flood remediation team come usually within four 3200 03:46:42,320 --> 03:46:45,420 hours of when they call the flood remediation team cut 3201 03:46:45,420 --> 03:46:48,430 the drywall that's not the question inevitably finish let me 3202 03:46:48,430 --> 03:46:50,270 finish ... but but it's not the question I'm asking 3203 03:46:50,270 --> 03:46:52,200 about is you asked me if there was covered and 3204 03:46:52,200 --> 03:46:54,000 I'm giving you an example and get to it that 3205 03:46:54,000 --> 03:46:55,430 be great 3206 03:46:55,430 --> 03:46:58,400 go ahead you don't have to interrupt 3207 03:46:58,400 --> 03:47:01,260 okay so even the stuff came up when the stuff 3208 03:47:01,290 --> 03:47:04,780 when the when the flood remediation people came then they 3209 03:47:04,780 --> 03:47:09,080 cost fifteen thousand dollars on a Saturday and Sunday and 3210 03:47:09,080 --> 03:47:12,260 the pumping the contaminants out of the house for four 3211 03:47:12,260 --> 03:47:15,300 days the claims adjuster would come on Monday and say 3212 03:47:15,940 --> 03:47:19,710 here's a fifteen thousand dollar Mr resident missed residences hold 3213 03:47:19,710 --> 03:47:21,970 on I just have a fifteen thousand dollar flood remediation 3214 03:47:21,970 --> 03:47:25,260 bill they say you get twenty five thousand dollars that's 3215 03:47:25,260 --> 03:47:27,560 it and you'll have to repair all of your everything 3216 03:47:27,560 --> 03:47:30,430 in the basement all your electrical and all your drywall 3217 03:47:30,430 --> 03:47:33,050 and all your lighting and all your appliances and all 3218 03:47:33,050 --> 03:47:35,870 the roads that you're responsible in some of the residents 3219 03:47:35,870 --> 03:47:39,040 are saying we don't have thirty to fifty thousand dollars 3220 03:47:39,040 --> 03:47:42,070 to do that so the answer is what they've done 3221 03:47:42,070 --> 03:47:44,490 is they've been reached out to others including some in 3222 03:47:44,490 --> 03:47:47,520 Richmond hill said are you guys gonna ensure for the 3223 03:47:47,520 --> 03:47:49,800 stuff that came out of the sewer in my house 3224 03:47:50,360 --> 03:47:53,050 that's correct okay so that doesn't answer the question but 3225 03:47:53,050 --> 03:47:55,810 thank you the question I was asking is I I 3226 03:47:55,920 --> 03:47:58,340 I guess I'm looking for is some more detail on 3227 03:47:58,340 --> 03:48:01,290 the extent of this problem I've had one before but 3228 03:48:01,290 --> 03:48:03,490 I think this motion is meant okay but that's right 3229 03:48:03,490 --> 03:48:05,340 and that's fine I have the right with the floor 3230 03:48:05,340 --> 03:48:07,400 at the moment to ask the question if there's some 3231 03:48:07,400 --> 03:48:10,130 insight that staff can give me so I better equipped 3232 03:48:10,130 --> 03:48:13,030 it to make a determination when the time comes on 3233 03:48:13,030 --> 03:48:16,540 this motion so ... is it possible to get an 3234 03:48:16,540 --> 03:48:21,730 idea of the you know the extent of this issue 3235 03:48:21,730 --> 03:48:24,850 given that it was on January eleventh I'm just not 3236 03:48:24,850 --> 03:48:30,200 sure how big a problem we're talking about here 3237 03:48:30,200 --> 03:48:34,400 shares of certain humans to mer ... so I'm I 3238 03:48:34,400 --> 03:48:37,460 have made aware of any anomalies in the waste collection 3239 03:48:37,530 --> 03:48:41,020 tonnages or that we had an override of you know 3240 03:48:41,020 --> 03:48:43,320 request for vehicles and in and more runs to me 3241 03:48:43,320 --> 03:48:47,180 typically when there's a crisis of some nature truck collection 3242 03:48:47,180 --> 03:48:49,470 can be delayed which may result in cost in the 3243 03:48:49,470 --> 03:48:51,520 region saying keep the Murph open if there's all kinds 3244 03:48:51,520 --> 03:48:53,310 of things that can trip up like give me an 3245 03:48:53,310 --> 03:48:56,500 indication of something really different is happening in the system 3246 03:48:56,500 --> 03:48:59,740 that didn't happen on the eleventh or the weeks preceding 3247 03:48:59,740 --> 03:49:03,020 the eleventh so I can ask staff to provide a 3248 03:49:03,020 --> 03:49:05,940 brief report S. okay was there any impact that we 3249 03:49:05,940 --> 03:49:09,540 saw across the city my smite my assumption right now 3250 03:49:09,540 --> 03:49:12,220 is that it's a minimal impact is clearly an area 3251 03:49:12,220 --> 03:49:15,580 within cancer munches war that was impacted by some regional 3252 03:49:15,580 --> 03:49:17,380 capacity 3253 03:49:17,380 --> 03:49:21,370 right now it says here the answer here please 3254 03:49:21,370 --> 03:49:24,420 and and from from ... any other cancers I haven't 3255 03:49:24,420 --> 03:49:26,610 heard any concerns and in each other wards as to 3256 03:49:26,610 --> 03:49:29,620 as to flooding ... nor have I had any calls 3257 03:49:29,650 --> 03:49:33,070 or direct communication from operations or the community as to 3258 03:49:33,070 --> 03:49:35,780 any concerns so so I don't think it's a in 3259 03:49:35,810 --> 03:49:37,570 in a month a month has gone by now so 3260 03:49:37,570 --> 03:49:41,140 if there was additional material it's probably long gone but 3261 03:49:41,140 --> 03:49:44,060 again if there's still some pockets of concern you know 3262 03:49:44,060 --> 03:49:46,580 we'll do we can to okay Levi at the community 3263 03:49:46,920 --> 03:49:50,730 one more question then so ... and as we I 3264 03:49:50,730 --> 03:49:53,200 didn't get a clear answer during this discussion up to 3265 03:49:53,200 --> 03:49:58,840 this point Miller does not pick up large items and 3266 03:49:58,930 --> 03:50:01,870 in like coaches and someone is that right 3267 03:50:01,870 --> 03:50:04,080 is that correct 3268 03:50:04,080 --> 03:50:07,530 through mis read every that's correct in the Clayton collection 3269 03:50:07,530 --> 03:50:10,580 contracts are very specific musical household waste has a very 3270 03:50:10,580 --> 03:50:14,110 specific definition coaches and construction material or gently into that 3271 03:50:14,110 --> 03:50:17,020 are excluded from that definition so can you can you 3272 03:50:17,020 --> 03:50:21,990 surmise then ... if we are able to accommodate the 3273 03:50:21,990 --> 03:50:26,120 collection of waste impacted residents 3274 03:50:26,120 --> 03:50:30,590 I've impacted residents sorry ... do we have the infrastructure 3275 03:50:30,590 --> 03:50:34,040 is in within our contract to actually do that because 3276 03:50:34,120 --> 03:50:37,090 if they're not picking up that type of material at 3277 03:50:37,090 --> 03:50:39,540 the moment there what are the chances of them being 3278 03:50:39,540 --> 03:50:41,450 able to pick it up 3279 03:50:41,450 --> 03:50:44,950 after the case certainly SO three you and I apologize 3280 03:50:44,980 --> 03:50:48,360 these questions are a bit ... I mean the great 3281 03:50:48,360 --> 03:50:51,400 questions are just not prepared with all the information generally 3282 03:50:51,400 --> 03:50:54,460 I can speak to a couple of items construction material 3283 03:50:54,460 --> 03:50:57,140 generally is refused because I know it's not accepted the 3284 03:50:57,140 --> 03:51:00,130 Marfan that's a contaminant right so that one is off 3285 03:51:00,130 --> 03:51:02,620 the table white goods we do have a program that 3286 03:51:02,620 --> 03:51:04,950 will collect white goods in washing machines in those kind 3287 03:51:04,950 --> 03:51:07,220 of voices so those can be arranged we picked up 3288 03:51:07,680 --> 03:51:10,110 if the rest of it is called garbage that shouldn't 3289 03:51:10,110 --> 03:51:12,340 be an issue and there may be some gray area 3290 03:51:12,340 --> 03:51:14,850 in there but I think for all in all with 3291 03:51:14,850 --> 03:51:18,890 what's happened we can probably address most of the concerns 3292 03:51:19,260 --> 03:51:21,380 ... it's just my concern is if people start taking 3293 03:51:21,380 --> 03:51:25,370 apart their basements and bring kinds of studs and drywall 3294 03:51:25,690 --> 03:51:28,890 that's problematic for sure so all right so what I'm 3295 03:51:29,120 --> 03:51:32,390 what I'm hearing that you're hearing is that when you 3296 03:51:32,390 --> 03:51:34,410 get this back you're gonna come back as quickly as 3297 03:51:34,410 --> 03:51:37,400 possible ... with a report as to how we may 3298 03:51:37,400 --> 03:51:39,370 be able to do 3299 03:51:39,370 --> 03:51:42,250 before you actually implement it 3300 03:51:42,250 --> 03:51:45,060 if I made three Miss America all right when I 3301 03:51:45,060 --> 03:51:47,970 read this I don't see an actual action to counsel 3302 03:51:47,970 --> 03:51:50,460 other than a direction to do the best we can 3303 03:51:50,490 --> 03:51:53,530 in the community that's kinda what I'm hearing if that's 3304 03:51:53,530 --> 03:51:55,770 if that's the message 3305 03:51:55,770 --> 03:51:57,230 the report 3306 03:51:57,230 --> 03:52:00,810 as reported by 3307 03:52:00,810 --> 03:52:04,900 okay any other comments on this okay thank you Mr 3308 03:52:04,900 --> 03:52:08,270 mess to you too commissioner 3309 03:52:08,270 --> 03:52:11,640 if if this is done 3310 03:52:11,640 --> 03:52:14,830 it would date it would this be contained within Miller's 3311 03:52:14,830 --> 03:52:18,530 contract obligations to us or is there going to be 3312 03:52:18,560 --> 03:52:22,120 an extra cost to the municipality 3313 03:52:22,120 --> 03:52:25,490 three missed my my my hope and and this is 3314 03:52:25,490 --> 03:52:28,230 it it's a question of tonnage collected right so we 3315 03:52:28,230 --> 03:52:31,050 we paid by the time by by the volume that 3316 03:52:31,050 --> 03:52:34,960 you think it's just deposited the region so that maybe 3317 03:52:34,960 --> 03:52:37,250 the marginal increase or tonnage for that month or for 3318 03:52:37,250 --> 03:52:39,540 the week or two might be marginal again this is 3319 03:52:39,540 --> 03:52:43,200 not a widespread quantity that I see ... I think 3320 03:52:43,380 --> 03:52:45,280 I think in this case and and I've seen this 3321 03:52:45,280 --> 03:52:48,450 happen in my career with managing waste contracts when we 3322 03:52:48,450 --> 03:52:51,250 have an anomaly anomalous event that creates a bit of 3323 03:52:51,280 --> 03:52:54,380 tension in the community it's just really good customer service 3324 03:52:54,380 --> 03:52:56,210 to provide a little extra service for that one or 3325 03:52:56,210 --> 03:52:59,290 two collection peered just to give everyone a sense that 3326 03:52:59,290 --> 03:53:00,880 you know what we we we're here to make sure 3327 03:53:00,880 --> 03:53:02,720 we can do the best we can so to me 3328 03:53:02,720 --> 03:53:05,970 this would be considered part of a normal business ... 3329 03:53:06,000 --> 03:53:08,510 the ice storm was another event where we mean and 3330 03:53:08,510 --> 03:53:11,550 made exemplary efforts to try to kind of minimize impact 3331 03:53:11,550 --> 03:53:13,030 the community so 3332 03:53:13,030 --> 03:53:16,020 now a bigger question might be with climate change and 3333 03:53:16,050 --> 03:53:18,360 you know what the patterns is this can become a 3334 03:53:18,360 --> 03:53:20,650 regular thing that maybe a bigger question to think about 3335 03:53:20,650 --> 03:53:23,320 but you know at the current rate of the events 3336 03:53:23,320 --> 03:53:26,680 it's not unusual for us to provide that service thank 3337 03:53:26,680 --> 03:53:29,360 you very much commission the only other comment I want 3338 03:53:29,360 --> 03:53:33,310 to make is that ... perhaps also and and I'm 3339 03:53:33,340 --> 03:53:36,100 I'm not sure if a city managers already involved in 3340 03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:40,120 this but perhaps risk management chose to be involved in 3341 03:53:40,120 --> 03:53:43,170 this because I know in my south Richfield area when 3342 03:53:43,170 --> 03:53:46,670 we've had problems with with plotting to you too M. 3343 03:53:46,740 --> 03:53:50,090 residences that are on near the creek and with the 3344 03:53:50,090 --> 03:53:53,300 climate change and you know five hundred years storms that 3345 03:53:53,300 --> 03:53:56,120 are no longer five hundred year storms ... that is 3346 03:53:56,120 --> 03:53:59,620 being dealt with by risk management so it it just 3347 03:53:59,620 --> 03:54:01,810 it might be a good idea just to the ace 3348 03:54:01,810 --> 03:54:04,900 as well with that because they there are impacts thank 3349 03:54:04,900 --> 03:54:06,370 you very much 3350 03:54:06,370 --> 03:54:09,180 okay cops have said 3351 03:54:09,180 --> 03:54:12,410 they're out there investigating a person so I don't know 3352 03:54:12,410 --> 03:54:15,900 that there's an answer specifically and that's where I don't 3353 03:54:15,900 --> 03:54:18,530 know that we need to report back 3354 03:54:18,530 --> 03:54:21,960 media leave before they do anything because Miller is actually 3355 03:54:21,960 --> 03:54:25,070 out there doing it all right so and 3356 03:54:25,070 --> 03:54:29,200 yeah I know the venom amazing pretty good 3357 03:54:29,200 --> 03:54:31,180 Sir go ahead 3358 03:54:31,180 --> 03:54:34,710 Mister I just wanted to provide some clarity at Macalester 3359 03:54:34,710 --> 03:54:39,410 much approached me with this idea it one of the 3360 03:54:39,410 --> 03:54:43,250 things that needs the commissioner needs to be cognizant of 3361 03:54:43,250 --> 03:54:45,960 is that a lot of this is just maybe give 3362 03:54:45,960 --> 03:54:48,990 them some extra bag a garbage tags so that they 3363 03:54:48,990 --> 03:54:52,600 can throw out stuff as they find issues with things 3364 03:54:52,600 --> 03:54:55,670 in the basement that were contaminated sites offices could go 3365 03:54:55,670 --> 03:54:58,020 on two or three months if they're one of the 3366 03:54:58,020 --> 03:55:01,020 houses that are identified given that garbage tag for a 3367 03:55:01,020 --> 03:55:03,540 couple of blocks and let's get on with it that's 3368 03:55:03,540 --> 03:55:05,400 what it's all about so let's can we please call 3369 03:55:05,400 --> 03:55:08,970 the vote 3370 03:55:08,970 --> 03:55:12,460 not a chance I'm sorry what does okay yup yup 3371 03:55:12,490 --> 03:55:16,490 all up yeah I I actual plot a councilman to 3372 03:55:16,490 --> 03:55:20,590 moving it forward to help his constituents up maybe your 3373 03:55:20,590 --> 03:55:24,170 response to conserve wesa agree we maybe that's on so 3374 03:55:24,220 --> 03:55:25,780 I just want to be after to create for you 3375 03:55:25,780 --> 03:55:30,890 Mister chair the commission because they're what ways 3376 03:55:30,890 --> 03:55:35,030 I mean how expensive or restrictive all that could be 3377 03:55:35,090 --> 03:55:39,290 I mean ... so ... so perhaps if you're coming 3378 03:55:39,290 --> 03:55:41,390 back the report issues you can I would like to 3379 03:55:41,390 --> 03:55:45,250 see you know if there's any kind of parameters set 3380 03:55:45,510 --> 03:55:48,730 this is what we meant we've been doing something 3381 03:55:48,730 --> 03:55:51,900 just a comment thank you the explanation thanks 3382 03:55:51,900 --> 03:55:57,940 okay all those in favor of posts that carries unanimously 3383 03:55:57,940 --> 03:56:02,080 all right we now are going to 3384 03:56:02,080 --> 03:56:03,300 sorry 3385 03:56:03,300 --> 03:56:06,360 hi ... but yes I'm sorry the file ... sixty 3386 03:56:06,360 --> 03:56:12,010 one through sixty seven 3387 03:56:12,010 --> 03:56:14,890 67 I mean 3388 03:56:14,890 --> 03:56:18,010 Adam movers second effort by the US 3389 03:56:18,010 --> 03:56:19,760 this 3390 03:56:19,760 --> 03:56:24,860 if you wish cancer west of some favorite polls carried 3391 03:56:24,860 --> 03:56:28,190 thank you both for their 3392 03:56:28,190 --> 03:56:30,850 ... we need to move into closed session and what 3393 03:56:30,850 --> 03:56:33,160 I would like to do ... when we do that 3394 03:56:33,160 --> 03:56:37,470 is go directly to ... 3395 03:56:37,470 --> 03:56:39,350 the 3396 03:56:39,350 --> 03:56:41,770 parkland for 3397 03:56:41,770 --> 03:56:43,840 and then we'll deal with yours 3398 03:56:43,840 --> 03:56:45,600 so 3399 03:56:45,600 --> 03:56:48,590 moving into there we go 3400 03:56:48,590 --> 03:56:52,630 resolution to move into closed session 3401 03:56:52,630 --> 03:56:58,350 and we're heading out we're on a run 3402 03:56:58,350 --> 03:57:00,410 S. 3403 03:57:00,410 --> 03:57:05,020 visitor receive advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege 3404 03:57:05,020 --> 03:57:08,850 including communications necessary for that purpose and litigation and or 3405 03:57:08,850 --> 03:57:15,390 potential litigation including matters before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality 3406 03:57:15,390 --> 03:57:19,240 or the local board with respect to payment of park 3407 03:57:19,370 --> 03:57:22,560 land cash in lieu section two three nine two half 3408 03:57:22,560 --> 03:57:27,050 empty miss black two thousand and one and the second 3409 03:57:27,050 --> 03:57:30,440 item that will be there's personal matter with identifiable individual 3410 03:57:30,440 --> 03:57:34,250 pertaining to staff member again once this plaque and a 3411 03:57:34,280 --> 03:57:37,470 time sensitive matter so with that kind of a motion 3412 03:57:37,470 --> 03:57:39,510 for 3413 03:57:39,510 --> 03:57:41,840 okay we have conflict 3414 03:57:41,840 --> 03:57:46,560 and second castle burgers thank you 3415 03:57:46,560 --> 03:57:52,880 all those in favor okay we are now going to 3416 03:57:52,880 --> 03:57:54,940 close session 3417 03:57:54,940 --> 03:58:07,970 okay all righty persons gobbled up 3418 06:04:16,370 --> 06:04:17,830 thanks for 3419 06:04:17,830 --> 06:04:19,810 230 yesterday 3420 06:04:19,810 --> 06:04:22,190 please hold no problem 3421 06:04:22,190 --> 06:04:25,290 you know one of 3422 06:04:25,290 --> 06:04:29,490 okay 3423 06:04:29,490 --> 06:04:31,950 Mr America yeah 3424 06:04:31,950 --> 06:04:35,740 okay we are now going into ... reconvene the open 3425 06:04:35,810 --> 06:04:37,980 session we have a mover and a second ... all 3426 06:04:37,980 --> 06:04:39,960 those in favor of 3427 06:04:39,960 --> 06:04:42,960 grooving to the open session 3428 06:04:42,960 --> 06:04:46,970 post character in your possession ... there is no recommendations 3429 06:04:46,970 --> 06:04:50,020 arising from the closed session meeting 3430 06:04:50,020 --> 06:04:53,300 ... that we was just finished so there's nothing to 3431 06:04:53,300 --> 06:04:55,820 report out so therefore we have to by law to 3432 06:04:55,820 --> 06:05:00,270 confirm the proceedings of counsel at this meeting the second 3433 06:05:00,270 --> 06:05:02,580 ... for that please 3434 06:05:02,580 --> 06:05:04,940 we were second 3435 06:05:04,940 --> 06:05:09,580 Hey kids so all of a sudden rally 3436 06:05:09,580 --> 06:05:14,520 all those in favor coach Terry Rozier 3437 06:05:14,520 --> 06:05:28,280 with a single second here all of their clothes