[0:06] morning ladies and gentlemen
[0:12] welcome to the regional regional council meeting city of Richmond
[0:18] L.
[0:19] and ... at this point time and all will call
[0:22] meeting to order and ask us to stand for the
[0:24] national anthem
[1:07] C.
[2:07] thank you
[2:14] we now have an opportunity for a public forum
[2:18] 5 minutes speakers if not
[2:20] but they're not on the agenda and anyway
[2:24] server to come up and
[2:26] their name name and address please
[2:29] Ahmadinejad the staff at the Mike
[2:41] and we have a distributed some information here here comes
[2:45] on everyone my name is Johnny I live in tool
[2:48] six Brookside road Richmond hill ... today on behalf of
[2:52] Yang born in the retina surgeon I'm making the speech
[2:55] tomorrow the planning department is scheduled to release the life
[2:59] young boarded up he said in the past the proposed
[3:03] density value grew six percent
[3:06] the population that's the way you preschool about the fifty
[3:10] four thousand people per kilometer wall five hundred forty five
[3:15] people her attackers
[3:18] to use the whole crew easier practical these proposed population
[3:22] density let's look at a species cannot log put put
[3:26] on the fifteenth up most of the dance community in
[3:29] Canada the coffee for
[3:32] I think the topic here is the list of top
[3:34] fifty items of a small but I keep calm before
[3:37] every console and the
[3:38] I can't so if we look at the table
[3:41] finally caught fifty does it even caught fire you for
[3:44] category fourth year reason of death is only one action
[3:48] committee system teams topped the polls committee in parental use
[3:53] up all five hundred plus the practice I also have
[3:57] a night ... tall high density committee the data from
[4:00] three hundred to five hundred actors
[4:02] president for hackers well in that national
[4:07] eighteen verify does the committee from two hundred to three
[4:09] hundred Russia perhaps only eighteen twenty two high density hi
[4:14] I need a hundred if you have a hundred feet
[4:16] deep twenty people prior to our meeting hi this is
[4:20] Lisa walked up proposed that is on top of these
[4:24] does the next Sunday's top national record you might as
[4:27] well those that seek him trail noticed that the only
[4:30] problem I have one of these thank you for the
[4:32] poorest communities in Canada
[4:35] right now let's see you see you when you redo
[4:37] people hot for fifty percent used to run a call
[4:40] fifteen
[4:42] even if you call the special hot the school record
[4:45] pop fifteen couple thirty percent certain that he's young we
[4:50] didn't propose that if he did you have racked up
[4:54] sixty so right now you yup we did no I
[4:57] mean place contract policies right now my
[5:02] the highest
[5:05] right right now
[5:07] is about a hundred sixty to four hundred thirty six
[5:09] resident for hackers
[5:12] not happy you are you should feel right on the
[5:15] highest density sixty what one of these days
[5:25] please note this company sizes similar to PDA is all
[5:29] about twenty five or more next I'm not talking the
[5:32] big it was postmarked so is a compatible right now
[5:35] you can only speak T. come he's the Daddy about
[5:39] one hundred fifty people or perhaps you've got a proposed
[5:44] proposed a national record right now all you all if
[5:47] you wi fi know any place placed so high ...
[5:51] that downtown Toronto no such records
[5:58] sorry public where X. accuracy
[6:01] for this company you see the future plans yeah we
[6:04] don't have complete high school I think very highly of
[6:07] high density and ...
[6:10] 19 high density
[6:12] one of the key here a modest nineteen that's only
[6:15] a hundred to sixty people her characters not a five
[6:19] six hundred
[6:21] number
[6:25] yeah one of the least leasing that does the your
[6:28] needless for me to see what I mean is the
[6:32] residential class job you can see a lot of high
[6:35] rise in downtown
[6:37] what the most obvious beauty is often
[6:42] the hospitals they don't need our schools that's why the
[6:45] Barack
[6:47] but you were wrong
[6:49] only one place to resolve the density
[6:57] we know this CD has restarted I W. D. two
[7:02] idea the report to start report what I want you
[7:05] want your ability but remember don't know numbers I also
[7:12] got all those hundreds of thousands of people kind of
[7:15] this country you know what this means
[7:21] all
[7:22] we cannot increase the density of population density target actually
[7:27] you'll see the young me to propose ways on this
[7:30] page only one job for the city residents where are
[7:35] we to fifty thousand for the sixteen
[7:37] until I see if we can see if the requirement
[7:41] why are you stil polls and that's the record for
[7:45] what we should what's behind it
[7:48] but I didn't get it okay just one minute finished
[7:52] at all okay it's
[7:54] that's this coming out I thank these opportunities to give
[7:58] you more for this is a scandal what do you
[8:01] think scale also benefiting the scandal right now all the
[8:06] arsenal that's a hundred people goals with former TV which
[8:09] Intel and user parking buddies you'll want to release these
[8:14] black I'm not a hundred other people in the world
[8:17] last April com movie after the promotion what the consequences
[8:22] you like to gather okay this is why all Asian
[8:25] form
[8:27] right now
[8:29] if you use a day off profession
[8:32] okay thank you Sir
[8:36] thank you
[8:40] it's rare but US forces speak public forum not on
[8:45] the agenda
[8:49] she's not she's not
[8:52] I'm sorry are you on the agenda
[8:55] I'm not about
[8:57] yes because I'm trying to
[8:59] your delegate then we have to wait to concern itself
[9:06] hello my name is merry great and I live a
[9:09] pretty one rough on crescent between Phil and I have
[9:11] been here in Richmond hill since nineteen eighty three in
[9:14] a lot of growth I'm here to represent ... towards
[9:18] York community choir and we have
[9:23] are you I'm sorry it's not yes we're trying to
[9:28] figure out ... you you did you signed up to
[9:32] speak
[9:33] nope okay the tax base okay okay fair enough I
[9:37] guess okay I used to speak in support of the
[9:40] cultural grant and Richmond hill Mister mayor I know it's
[9:43] if you could please explain if you're here to speak
[9:46] about an item that is currently on the agenda you
[9:50] can speak later this portion I'm sorry Mr that's outside
[9:53] this person is for members of the audience to speak
[9:56] to something that is not on the agenda business that
[9:59] is not in front of us today is the opportunity
[10:02] for this period the cultural grant is on the it's
[10:04] on the agenda
[10:06] you can speak later okay sorry Mr marriages for clarified
[10:10] so strong that
[10:11] you can clear
[10:18] okay
[10:20] there's no one else wishes to speak that is not
[10:22] on the agenda
[10:24] council announcements
[10:27] west
[10:32] I thank you Mr mayor I just a couple of
[10:34] quick things ... I just wanted to give a shout
[10:37] out to everybody that was able to attend the regional
[10:39] winter carnival I was R. fifty third sorry fifty second
[10:43] getting ahead of myself here ... it was the weekend
[10:46] before last great weather ... we appreciate all the support
[10:50] that we received from the ... the community and also
[10:52] from the sponsors thank you very much ... mother nature
[10:56] didn't give us ice this year but he promised me
[10:58] that she would have it next year and that's fine
[11:01] ... I would also like to thank the our staff
[11:04] that they are consistently ... there to support the event
[11:08] it is a community event but the ... the staff
[11:11] in Richmond hill is very much supportive of that and
[11:13] and comes out every year and doesn't excellent job so
[11:16] commissioner I'd like you to pass that on to the
[11:18] ... public works staff that were there and also ...
[11:21] like to just mention that on Sunday we had out
[11:24] in the Bayern mental symposium at the theater I was
[11:26] able to host that with another community member ... well
[11:30] attended some good speakers and death I would just point
[11:33] that I'd like to just highlight there was a really
[11:35] interesting ... conversation with second harvest that came to is
[11:39] one of the speakers and it was really incredible the
[11:42] ... this the statistics that the speaker was ... talking
[11:46] about with regard to food waste and ... I very
[11:48] much look forward to exploring that a little bit more
[11:51] ... and and having them have a bigger presence in
[11:54] our community because I it's unbelievable the numbers and it's
[11:58] not just food waste it's also greenhouse gas emissions and
[12:00] so on that that that represents so ... it was
[12:03] it that was in and of itself is a very
[12:05] interesting moment I I'd like to bring that to the
[12:08] attention of a wrap my colleagues as well so thank
[12:10] you
[12:12] thank you so much
[12:14] ... today just a quick as a food distributor of
[12:17] matching the engage with second harvest and courage of the
[12:19] people do second harvest as well ... on January eighth
[12:23] was a ... incident in Iran where flight seven fifty
[12:27] two was shot down the culture for those that don't
[12:30] know ... in that ... just to go a little
[12:33] history there for those winding hundred seventy six people died
[12:36] in that incident directly in the on the flight all
[12:40] those hundred seventy six fifty seven were Canadians not the
[12:43] of the hundred seventy six hundred thirty eight how to
[12:45] die rechte Canadian attachment of which at least eighteen had
[12:49] a direct Richmond hill connection putting many vendors we have
[12:52] some storage that's not what I'm discussing the culture there
[12:56] is that the we had a has a a respect
[12:59] for the incident and forty days after the incident is
[13:02] when ... another memorials being taking place and we were
[13:06] going to do another memorial in Richmond hill but we've
[13:09] decided to work we being the people who worked on
[13:12] that memorial on the sixteenth ... there's going to be
[13:15] A. I. and ... engagement at the North York to
[13:19] look out for that in the last ten square and
[13:21] I ask if you can't come at least remember because
[13:24] it was a tragedy and ... it is a solemn
[13:27] areas so hopefully you keep those ... the souls in
[13:30] your prayers thank you
[13:32] if you can supply
[13:35] thank you Mr mayor and ... I want to make
[13:38] two announcements one is on February twenty ninth Mr Maher
[13:42] ... the ... city of Richmond hill has challenged the
[13:47] province in a basketball game ... to raise money for
[13:51] a local youth basketball organization called play forever I believe
[13:58] a run by a young gentleman by the name of
[14:00] Muhammad and the the objective of which is to raise
[14:03] money so that these ... these children these youth cannot
[14:08] play basketball and get them some uniforms and shoes and
[14:11] so on ... we've raised quite a bit of money
[14:14] so far want to keep that a surprise for the
[14:17] actual evening ... the basketball game is ... February twenty
[14:21] ninth at ... Richmond hill high school and ... everybody's
[14:26] welcome to come in and be a spectator cheer and
[14:29] cheer for the city and ... secondly ... I'm hosting
[14:35] a ... skating go party at ... the Richmond green
[14:40] skate trail the the the very next day ... which
[14:44] is a March first ... between eleven and one at
[14:48] the skate trail Richmond ... green and they'll be our
[14:52] free pancakes and hot chocolate for everybody who attends so
[14:56] I I hope everybody can come out and enjoy the
[14:58] day with us thank you Mr thank you
[15:03] seeing no others ... introduction of emergency time sensitive matters
[15:09] see any counselor where I have to ... one of
[15:13] the coming open session the other elected on closed session
[15:16] for a ... has to with a with a staff
[15:19] member has to with regards to a ...
[15:24] I'd like to have a private camera talk about a
[15:26] situation with a staff member that needs to be done
[15:29] in camera
[15:31] okay Virginia to describe what it is when we go
[15:34] on camera so we need to
[15:38] 57 mera camera certainly if
[15:46] if ... it at this time he would be a
[15:49] motion for ... council to decide whether these two items
[15:53] should be added to the generator to lose one open
[15:56] session at a conference session close sessions ... if you
[16:01] said staff members so I can craft the motion the
[16:03] open session matter please counsel the open source has to
[16:06] do with on ... January the eleventh we had a
[16:10] ... rain incident that went in January eleven January twelfth
[16:14] for there's up to fifty millimeters of water that went
[16:16] through York region had a sewer backup and ... that
[16:20] affected all the sewage system in Richmond hill and the
[16:23] back flow went through to number number members of the
[16:26] community and we want to make sure that people hi
[16:29] res this last time the councils were brought together will
[16:31] be propped yet again but ... we have to make
[16:34] sure your pension ... because ... just warming up to
[16:37] the what we have to do thank
[16:44] yeah so the the ... just just in terms of
[16:47] identifying individuals
[16:49] yes okay so for the open one we have ...
[16:52] mover and second ... counselor
[16:54] hello
[16:56] 4 I'm just calling it the flood okay
[17:02] and the closed
[17:06] there's a different vigil
[17:19] okay so Sir moving this is your second goal of
[17:24] the yeah okay thank you
[17:35] the clerk review
[17:38] we will be dealing with that until we get to
[17:41] the closed session portion right
[17:43] as far as providing what it is
[17:46] as we move on at this point that we get
[17:48] this right I'm going to go okay
[19:09] waiting for yes your worship right thank you all the
[19:14] five major Star City confirmation either from Mr Croker for
[19:18] you all day service center for any discussion on close
[19:23] session ...
[19:26] is it not also requirement that notice be given
[19:30] prior to the close session
[19:32] I'm just saying off
[19:35] caution I know we can do it within the meeting
[19:38] but at best to be sure that we are living
[19:41] within the confines of all the ... ... require legislative
[19:48] and also all final framework
[19:52] for you perhaps I would direct that to ... I'll
[19:55] ... ... status on a sitter
[20:04] thank you to Mister Maher ... is there is not
[20:08] to my knowledge ... any requirements for advance notice ...
[20:13] specifically or talk about personal matters and matters of identifiable
[20:16] individuals ... and in the absence of a legislative provision
[20:20] requiring such notice as long as council considers this a
[20:23] time sensitive matter it can add it to the agenda
[20:25] thank you I appreciate that it is good that you
[20:28] have to assurances ... thank you thank you
[20:32] okay it is on the screen this one time
[20:36] this is a 2 time sensitive matter
[20:42] yes No Way Senate yes go ahead
[20:44] thank you Mr master you to the mover at as
[20:47] far as I know ... ... with regards to the
[20:50] introduction of emergency and time sensitive matter is there a
[20:53] specific criteria as to why ... emergency instructions in the
[20:58] matter should be added to the agenda those include legal
[21:01] and financial so I'd like to ask through you to
[21:04] the move out can you please explain what the financial
[21:07] and legal ...
[21:10] Mattis o'shea on each one well I would I would
[21:15] like to know if that according to our procedural bylaw
[21:17] there is a it is a very specific definition
[21:20] to introduce emergency and time sensitive matter
[21:23] financial and legal
[21:26] all right okay for first time since 2
[21:30] I'm sensor for the one we have people who have
[21:32] ... garbage that needs to be thrown out we have
[21:36] garbage days every two weeks ... we only have a
[21:39] certain type of counsel once a month if we wait
[21:43] until report comes back and forth people are gonna have
[21:45] garbage I don't think the resins one garbage all throughout
[21:47] the community that's that's fine so I think that works
[21:50] with regard to the section where of this also so
[21:53] chances are the right option the issues that we're we're
[21:56] involving him we were involved in now
[21:59] okay spoke to the other okay thank you thank you
[22:04] all right
[22:06] this is before us all those in favor of
[22:10] this motion
[22:12] up
[22:14] carries unanimously
[22:17] all right who will move on to adoption of the
[22:19] agenda
[22:21] so now I have those two items added to our
[22:23] agenda
[22:25] the motion over in a second ... for adoption of
[22:29] the agenda ... Jenda has is now
[22:33] photo consular affairs thank you all those in favor pulls
[22:38] Kerry thing
[22:40] disclosures of can interest in the general nature there ...
[22:45] consular service and follow it right so
[22:51] thank you Mister may I wish to read the statement
[22:54] I once again declare an indirect pecuniary and conflict of
[22:57] interest regarding agenda item thirteen point five the twenty twenty
[23:02] community and cultural grants program as I did before out
[23:05] of an abundance of caution as per the munificent years
[23:09] of a conflict of interest act the NCIA the code
[23:12] of conduct and as proprietor legal advice due to my
[23:16] associations or affiliations with the number of the named organizations
[23:20] seeking public grant money which must be approved or denied
[23:23] by counsel I have deemed it would be a conflict
[23:25] of interest for me to participate in any formal discussions
[23:28] or decisions regarding this particular agenda item I know a
[23:33] profit from any of those associations and affiliations nor do
[23:37] I receive any monetary compensation from them what so ever
[23:41] I am seated ... participate in these organizations in my
[23:44] identification as a Richmond hill councillor purely on a volunteer
[23:48] basis and I do such with integrity and honor I
[23:52] trust my public statement made here today February twelfth would
[23:55] ensure the protection and sanctity of my oath of office
[23:58] and the reputation of those organizations to which I am
[24:01] affiliated thank you
[24:04] okay
[24:06] elsewhere west thank you as is my responsibility as a
[24:09] counselor I will also need to declare a conflict of
[24:13] interest on it Gend item number thirteen five I am
[24:16] a volunteer in a leadership position on the volunteer board
[24:19] of directors of one of the organizations that is on
[24:22] the list for receiving a grant ... potentially ought to
[24:25] be abundantly clear ... this is a volunteer position and
[24:28] there is no direct pecuniary interest because like so many
[24:31] volunteers I receive no money for my actions in this
[24:33] position however out of an abundance of caution and to
[24:36] avoid even the appearance of a conflict ... but more
[24:39] so out of an abundance of respect for the integrity
[24:42] of the process of choosing grant recipients I will step
[24:45] away from voting on this matter
[24:48] all right
[24:53] disclosures okay we are now going so you're never going
[24:56] to adopt at previous council minutes council meeting zero one
[25:01] twenty held on January twenty second and council public meeting
[25:06] zero
[25:07] two twenty held on January twenty second twenty twenty eleven
[25:13] mover in a second ... for both of those kinds
[25:15] of questions cancer service
[25:18] in comments seeing none all those in favor of
[25:23] identification of items requiring separate discussion items to be discussed
[25:29] ... a phone number
[25:31] here we have
[25:34] and this is just a quick ... I think from
[25:36] the point of view we have two items thirteen three
[25:39] five is the operating budget
[25:41] that was brought ... budget council our budget committee sent
[25:45] here and we also have thirteen twelve which is a
[25:49] memorandum from ... David dexter director financial and I would
[25:54] suggest that there are some ...
[25:58] update and revise recommendations so if we combine these two
[26:02] together and deal with them is one item okay so
[26:04] fifteen three five thirteen twelve
[26:07] we also have ... thirteen for based on the demolition
[26:12] requests were Jefferson school house
[26:15] thirteen five being the community and cultural grant program that
[26:20] we've ...
[26:22] and then also we have thirteen eight which is Richmond
[26:25] hill climate change actions
[26:29] all that is all that I have here unless other
[26:34] people ... members want to remove items to be discussed
[26:38] a server errors
[26:40] I would like to speak to item thirteen point seven
[26:44] private street naming thank you okay
[26:48] he has cancer well it is thirteen point three point
[26:53] five ... excluded from consent
[26:58] 1520
[27:00] okay
[27:02] that's that's what I was trying to confirm the thirteen
[27:04] three five now at twelve I'm sorry ... thirteen for
[27:07] thirteen for thirteen point four delegation delegation okay for
[27:14] yes
[27:16] any other the
[27:20] for for discussion
[27:24] seeing none mention I asked her I can I will
[27:28] read
[27:31] okay those are
[27:33] no
[27:36] okay so those are the items so seven ... wanted
[27:39] to we've dealt with so thirteen ...
[27:45] 123
[27:48] now we have 6
[27:55] 78
[27:57] 7 sevens in sorry
[28:00] also
[28:02] thank you SO 9
[28:04] 10111314 and 15 are
[28:11] other ones it's not for discussions or whatever mover and
[28:14] second for those items
[28:17] transaction so it's near almonds all those in favor
[28:24] and honestly Cecil if you were if you were visiting
[28:29] here today based on I think you're here for all
[28:31] the ones that we're going to have a discussion on
[28:34] if you're not in the slightest doubt with councils dealt
[28:37] with
[28:42] we have no interest no presentations but we do have
[28:46] delegations
[28:50] Mister Palmer shoes
[28:52] I'll try that again if you recognize that name product
[28:59] sorry
[29:01] with
[29:05] thank you former borough councillors ... I appear here last
[29:10] January twenty second to advocate for the preservation of the
[29:14] Jefferson school hours on young street
[29:17] the historical society's goal was to participate in a discussion
[29:22] that would lead to a denial of a permit seeking
[29:24] the demolition of the building and see the beginning of
[29:27] work leading to the preservation and hopefully restoration of this
[29:30] historic structure
[29:33] ... I I don't think we need to repeat your
[29:35] argument here that this building warrants the city's protection
[29:39] the heritage value of such a structure with well documented
[29:42] when it received its heritage designation from the town in
[29:45] nineteen eighty two
[29:47] and we feel the passage of time has only served
[29:49] to increase the value our view is that such an
[29:52] extraordinary connection to our past warrant celebration and certainly not
[29:57] demolition
[29:59] now we're aware that discussions have been underway since a
[30:03] January twenty second council meeting regarding possible options that would
[30:07] see this building preserved and restored and we know that
[30:11] the structural condition of the building offers some challenges
[30:15] we also know however that such challenges can be met
[30:19] that any number of heritage buildings have been successfully restored
[30:22] and remain as useful reminders of our past
[30:27] the society's view is that our goal of preserving the
[30:29] historical value of the Jefferson school house could be achieved
[30:33] in a number of ways
[30:35] the building to the left word is restored for any
[30:38] number of users
[30:40] the building could be left on the side or possibly
[30:43] move somewhat and restored in order to become part of
[30:45] a larger project
[30:47] for the building could be relocated to another site and
[30:50] restored as a stand alone structure or indeed is part
[30:53] of another larger development
[30:56] the Historical Society doesn't underestimate the level of commitment
[31:01] operation that would be required to see the Jefferson school
[31:04] house preserved
[31:06] the city investors and contractors would all have to work
[31:09] together to see any of the option most I've referenced
[31:12] above come to fruition the result however would be a
[31:16] very public and a very positive display of our collective
[31:19] will to see our past celebrated yet contribute to Richmond
[31:23] hill's ongoing development
[31:26] the Jefferson school house represents an opportunity for Richmond hill
[31:30] to be very visible example of a community that values
[31:34] its past and works hard to make up faster ...
[31:38] integral part of its present and its future
[31:42] in closing the Richmond hill Historical Society hoaxes demonstrated their
[31:47] options but demolition need not be a solution
[31:51] our goal is the preservation of the Jefferson school house
[31:54] there are a number of ways to achieve that goal
[31:56] there are many Richmond hill citizens who applaud that result
[32:01] please remember when it's gone it's gone forever
[32:06] thank you very much
[32:08] thank you
[32:13] thank you for the suggestions
[32:17] Mr will help make
[32:20] Sir
[32:34] good morning fiftieth members of the city council of my
[32:40] adopted community actually of the community restrict up to me
[32:44] and my family your delivery location some weeks ago in
[32:49] the last council meeting motivated me S. a retired professor
[32:53] of history to pay a visit to the site it's
[32:57] always helpful not just to look at papers staff reports
[33:01] but look at the site
[33:03] that I can make sure to put two paths that
[33:06] that the
[33:07] the first one I looked around the building it is
[33:10] cropping days no question
[33:13] it is beautiful in the matching different breaks
[33:18] all entrapped yellow InStyleTime it is crumbling at the corners
[33:25] and in fact that's a foundation but it's somewhat tough
[33:28] job to be done there's no question
[33:31] I went inside insight is to play in square a
[33:37] rectangle room which is
[33:41] so simple that you can see this one room schoolhouse
[33:46] I could see actually imagine the deaths the L. eighty
[33:51] test simplicity has its top
[33:55] that is the third part of my exclusion
[33:59] I went outside and looked at the property which is
[34:02] it actually amazing why who's a south of the building
[34:07] and then across the street and the construction site and
[34:11] I look back and I'd like to share this with
[34:15] your
[34:16] it's from Google I'm not I'm in the nineteenth century
[34:22] dress and so on thousands with feel good anymore
[34:25] the what I no Dey sloths what I could see
[34:31] now yeah I don't have my pen here excuse me
[34:35] I have to take my column is
[34:38] I imagine when I stood on the other side
[34:42] the road to
[34:43] on the west side of young I could imagine
[34:47] if the economy gets face enough space I thought he
[34:51] did calling out in the back
[34:54] the town houses in the back or even sort of
[34:58] accountability
[35:00] and I could see
[35:04] modern buildings framing six little halls and in contrast to
[35:08] the reproach of the governed
[35:12] C. H. whatever
[35:14] what I DO that this old building doesn't have a
[35:18] place anymore I thought what is this young generation me
[35:22] as an old man still have hope for the help
[35:25] of functions of contest my granddaughter would never agree with
[35:30] this argument but always say pizza pop to me grandpa
[35:35] this is grandpa transparency stability
[35:38] this building has the potential exactly a place not being
[35:44] moved somewhere else to Richmond green lights at train station
[35:49] to make to be a living history black black
[35:55] ... not just the fact this was a place Mister
[35:58] Jefferson it in Basra but for people driving up
[36:02] on yes did you okay there is a complementary opposite
[36:07] contrast
[36:09] and I'm sorry I don't know whether the also also
[36:11] reflected Sierra but I totally agree my blood pressure was
[36:16] going up to the state's argument the pamphlet isn't around
[36:20] anymore this building at eight setting
[36:25] can be a historical living plaque for the development of
[36:29] a handed to a village to a town to a
[36:34] city
[36:36] this is something we can visualize yep
[36:40] and I'm saying this because I'm quite encouraged by the
[36:44] development of the old town hall at the corner of
[36:50] young and Wright state
[36:52] ... when I started my career of being interested to
[36:57] what you guys do ... events look at this this
[37:01] is a lively place today which problem no it's it's
[37:05] amazing it's vibrating people experience it you can someone come
[37:09] and meet me there yes well I can meet your
[37:16] any for somebody not F. I can see in this
[37:20] little baby coffee house
[37:23] I can't see some see well I don't know whether
[37:27] it's economically feasible and how to do it but couple
[37:30] notes gives an example it's with swipe to preserve the
[37:36] Jefferson school house it's a place where eight piece thank
[37:40] you
[37:43] thank you
[37:49] okay ... ... thirteen for one council rally U. S.
[37:53] to speak
[37:56] thank you Mr mayor and thank you for the delegates
[38:01] I don't believe there's any one
[38:04] there wants to see the Jefferson school house
[38:08] demolished
[38:10] because as the gentleman solid quickly stated once it's gone
[38:14] it's gone forever
[38:17] D. the challenge I have
[38:20] is that
[38:22] we have the rights of the city versus the rights
[38:26] of the property owner
[38:30] without going into great history I've spent hundreds of hours
[38:34] in that building
[38:36] I think it's a magnificent building
[38:40] I think it should be preserved
[38:43] the challenges we have is that
[38:46] how do we as a council
[38:49] impose
[38:51] our beliefs on a landowner with his property and his
[38:55] money
[38:57] it's very challenging if you put yourself in and the
[39:00] owner's shoes and say
[39:03] I'm struggling here I'm paying all these taxes I have
[39:06] limited use of limited resources
[39:10] and
[39:12] maybe that owner doesn't see the value and the historical
[39:16] building
[39:18] so
[39:20] the challenges
[39:22] I think we all agree let's let's preserve this building
[39:26] but the powers given to us from the government from
[39:29] the the province
[39:31] is that we can say yea or nay to a
[39:34] demolition
[39:36] we can't make them fix the building we can't make
[39:41] them fix it to the standard we want we can't
[39:45] make them make it accessible to the public
[39:50] we don't have that kind of power hasn't been bestowed
[39:54] upon us
[39:55] so we have to work collaboratively with the owner
[40:02] as a basic principle I don't think we have the
[40:06] right
[40:07] to impose our will
[40:10] on a property owner
[40:12] to make him do something against as well
[40:16] and I say this for all
[40:18] heritage buildings
[40:22] the facts are
[40:24] that we have given three demolition permits to designated heritage
[40:28] buildings during this term of of office
[40:31] and ... myself and several members of counts that I've
[40:35] spoken to have I have not received one
[40:38] one complaint from the public there was no outcry that
[40:43] we're destroying our heritage buildings
[40:46] this one is a special building
[40:50] I would go against my general principles and say if
[40:53] there was one building to protect this would be it
[40:58] but it's never going to be protected by the the
[41:01] owner
[41:03] we would have to step in and do something
[41:07] so before I finish I would like to move a
[41:10] motion Mister Merrick
[41:13] that we deny the demolition permit
[41:16] but that being said
[41:19] the gentleman made
[41:20] the same ... recommendations that I would make if we
[41:25] as a council believe that the residents of Richmond hill
[41:29] want to preserve this property forever I think number one
[41:36] it should remain a schoolhouse
[41:40] for other
[41:41] any use it as a school house as opposed to
[41:44] what we did on young street with the old post
[41:47] office we we bought it we restarted its magnificent it's
[41:52] a real estate office kinda loses its contacts
[41:56] so I would like to see the Jefferson school house
[41:59] be purchased ideally the ultimate is be purchased if it's
[42:04] the will of the people of Richmond hill
[42:06] that the city purchased the property enter into agreement with
[42:10] the owner restore at and turn it back into a
[42:15] school house now not mainstream school obviously it's just one
[42:19] little white house but let's say
[42:23] for example we turned into a school house for an
[42:26] autistic program for autistic kids
[42:29] and forever have it there so everybody can enjoy
[42:34] so Mr Maher I would move that we deny the
[42:37] demolition permit for the time being and that we referred
[42:42] this back to staff to enter into negotiations with the
[42:47] owner to purchase the property restore the property and forever
[42:53] leave it as a school house
[42:56] that's my motion Mr
[42:59] a second please
[43:02] that's a chance
[43:04] this one will get a chance to chat
[43:09] this is
[43:11] with the message
[43:12] June 2 yes and this is on the screen
[43:17] yes course but
[43:20] thank you Mr mayor ... all right what do you
[43:23] want to wish to see it on the screen before
[43:25] you sure I'll wait okay just so we understand
[43:30] this
[43:34] yes
[43:38] it's okay just don't
[43:41] thank you
[43:44] the second ... will speak when it's on the board
[43:47] and then
[44:42] this is
[44:51] this is a
[44:57] status is to
[45:01] thank
[45:25] 6 to stop
[45:30] yes
[45:36] okay and then the comments not lifted the speakers catch
[45:39] a chance to second thank you
[45:43] Mister chair
[45:44] and I appreciate him over for this full
[45:48] this is an effort to preserve a former Jefferson school
[45:52] house now ... before makes for a common I'd thought
[45:56] to move also mentioned some up referring to staff so
[46:00] that they'll be opportune to come back ... but perhaps
[46:04] would that be in the view of the ball forward
[46:07] to capture in
[46:09] C.
[46:12] okay please
[46:14] it would remove it because I hear the word of
[46:16] referral your for saying to staff to come back I
[46:20] just like to see the wording there but I certainly
[46:23] support the
[46:25] principal and the spirit office
[46:28] with with a move like a resolute okay
[46:32] okay
[46:33] so now I want to say number one I fully
[46:37] concur with ... I agree a hundred percent of the
[46:41] first dedicate ... if I can call you GM Mr
[46:45] president simply
[46:48] I totally agree if you reverse gone it's gone
[46:52] I mean when I first moved into Richmond hill I
[46:54] remember used to be called Falwell and stopped you fall
[47:00] knocked out power some of you may remember white collar
[47:03] may not be the best thing you want to look
[47:05] into in the morning
[47:08] but I don't know why I still miss it because
[47:10] it's gone it's gone it with dust weedy wreaths press
[47:14] sense part of Richmond hill history in fact it might
[47:18] be called all of us at that time right optional
[47:22] I'm food for support in preserving in particular in this
[47:25] case S. already a mention by him over ... so
[47:29] this opportunity I believe the second dedicate our doctor Blake
[47:34] talking about yes after these contracts all this perhaps in
[47:39] the future with as high rise with his tonsils whether
[47:41] it may be and I think that actor Scott ...
[47:46] educational of thing full of
[47:50] the younger generation of young at heart about where we
[47:54] come from and so that we know the future and
[47:56] I can send example I always like that
[48:00] politiker setting
[48:02] Gibson house on young street and populate with what a
[48:07] user now call North York civic centre and they might
[48:11] have
[48:13] concourse point of order
[48:15] right but my point is
[48:18] the use of a kitchen housed they maintain that given
[48:21] house and opened it as say some kind of educational
[48:25] display purposes so for that purpose I'm support that this
[48:29] could be turned into as a public or see it
[48:32] be something up booting it back to of all original
[48:37] purpose and dad of opportunity come back to console we
[48:40] can deliberate gait so I ... I support that a
[48:44] particularly looking at page fifty one of your report this
[48:48] is precisely the spirit all three did not in this
[48:51] decision of the heritage committee so I'm happy to support
[48:54] it and thank you all for the motion ... to
[48:57] ... by the way which are local councillor you should
[49:00] add a name to
[49:02] thank you
[49:04] so much
[49:06] good day this so
[49:10] I have a party it'll put into school
[49:14] I have a I have a group that was put
[49:16] into a school
[49:18] we visited the site
[49:20] we have met with a number of stakeholders
[49:25] clearing the owner
[49:27] I would say you further what we wanna do is
[49:28] you want to try to preserve this to me to
[49:30] school yup me the H. fax system something else for
[49:32] those that want to give an example of that this
[49:34] is possible
[49:36] because the situation in this type of rendering it obsolete
[49:40] possible
[49:41] this motion would not do that I don't think that
[49:44] we should when we have people in our community hi
[49:46] hi love the romanticism of
[49:49] but expect the school boarder private school to go in
[49:51] there is going to cost a lot of money
[49:53] and I would like to have money for water and
[49:55] sewer so people don't have the sewer back up into
[49:57] their homes are like people have garbage pickup and everything
[50:00] elsewhere in the state already here in Richmond hill we
[50:02] have budget constraints when we have a party that is
[50:05] willing to protect the school the heritage the look and
[50:10] make it work without spending two to four million dollars
[50:13] of taxpayers money I guess a two that we have
[50:16] a housing affordability we have a gridlock we have high
[50:19] taxation here I think that the resources I love I
[50:23] absolutely want to take a schoolhouse
[50:26] I think that this is a very important I think
[50:27] ... the majority of council will likely agree with us
[50:30] I think when you listen to the advice of the
[50:33] stake holders including the
[50:35] Historical Society of saying what their objectives are one two
[50:38] three
[50:40] this one to 3 is nice
[50:43] but we cannot keep purchasing and go beyond our scope
[50:46] we have to look at priorities as a basic level
[50:48] government we can't just keep spending and doing things based
[50:52] upon a wish not a need we have dozens if
[50:56] not hundreds of families today who are in harm's way
[50:59] because they are under stress because they have sewage in
[51:02] their basements
[51:04] that to me health and safety takes precedence over a
[51:08] wish of owning a building that we can't operate
[51:13] spent two billion dollars the candid post building for someone
[51:16] else to do is nice but I don't believe it's
[51:19] value to what our job is here although I very
[51:22] much would like agree with that I think that the
[51:24] cost of doing this when we have other options that
[51:28] we know when we have people willing to do a
[51:30] school and for those that ... I have engagements with
[51:33] some people in the audience and outside to move that
[51:36] school will likely crumble it to move it off site
[51:40] to move it on young street to move those wires
[51:42] about three hundred thousand dollars so it's for us to
[51:44] say we want to convert this to go back to
[51:47] give staff the responsibility to go in and negotiate to
[51:50] purchase a site to be used for something that's not
[51:54] going to add value when we have other options that
[51:57] we can say let's work with stakeholders to preserve our
[52:01] history to keep the architecture to embrace it where it's
[52:05] going to be a showcase even the picture that was
[52:07] shown by the ... by one of the delegates shows
[52:11] that was people go by it gets lost well we
[52:14] can actually enhance it and give you guys a visual
[52:17] you guys haven't seen that this is possible
[52:21] maybe
[52:23] this motion will kill that so I think it's great
[52:26] that we all say we want to cater to a
[52:27] select few that one romanticism I'd rather focus on great
[52:30] governance do what's right for the history of the site
[52:34] ... and go from there but also by the will
[52:36] of counsel and we'll go from there but I think
[52:38] this would be a mistake so I would say to
[52:40] that I would like to add an amendment if I
[52:42] can if maybe if you'd like to move it move
[52:44] as a friendly amendment
[52:46] as opposed to give the direction to stuff to say
[52:49] that go and ... as it says here the feasibility
[52:53] of purchasing the Jefferson school house which would absolutely destroy
[52:57] any possibility of any private investment whatsoever going into this
[53:02] I would say I would like to say go back
[53:04] to stuff and engage as we already have because that
[53:08] was the motion last council meeting when we engage with
[53:11] staff on options for the site we had a working
[53:16] community this motion would not do that so I'd like
[53:19] to ask mover says that being gauge back with staff
[53:21] to look at all options as for the delegation of
[53:26] historical societies three options as their preferred not exclusively saying
[53:31] that the city is going to purchase this building
[53:35] so this doesn't happen
[53:40] yeah
[53:41] we were filming an invigilator wonderful individual touches I'm asking
[53:45] what you're doing last month ...
[53:48] okay yes we can add something
[53:52] thank you Mister Merrett so just just to be clear
[53:54] ... with councillor Munch is asking is that we don't
[53:58] restrict it to just the purchase of the property that
[54:01] we look at other options
[54:04] the I'm happy to I'm happy to make the amendments
[54:08] so that you know go along to get along
[54:12] please I want everybody understand that
[54:14] we have been trying for years to work with this
[54:18] property owner that design came from him
[54:23] ... does that other iterations of how we can incorporate
[54:28] the school house into a bigger project these are all
[54:31] wonderful options my fear is this
[54:34] that if we do nothing if we don't act on
[54:37] one of the options and I'm happy to make the
[54:40] amendment ... that house is going to crumble and when
[54:44] it hits the ground in a pile of rubble it's
[54:46] over we have to do something so I don't want
[54:50] to just push this off into the future with with
[54:54] no action so I'm happy to add Mr Clark
[54:57] that
[54:59] the manager of real estate
[55:02] and staff be directed
[55:06] to contact the owners of it as well as at
[55:09] the end as well as to ... investigate options to
[55:15] build I don't even know how you would word it
[55:18] I mean
[55:19] to preserve
[55:20] options to develop the set that's always available for the
[55:23] owner and for anybody to go in and buy it
[55:27] another option is to preserve the schoolhouse
[55:31] all right
[55:33] Chad I just want to say yes or no answer
[55:36] at this point yes indisputable preserving the actor for the
[55:40] schoolhouse
[55:43] Tania 25 seconds
[55:48] okay
[55:51] I still have
[55:54] 4 speakers
[55:56] all wrapped up with change the ref
[56:31] okay there is
[56:40] okay
[56:44] okay this comes with emotion all right cancer west
[56:51] okay so were this differently minutes or on the main
[56:53] motion right
[56:55] we're not talking about the amendment no
[56:59] okay thank you okay so I I there are no
[57:02] I mean I have agreed with a number of things
[57:03] have been said I've disagreed with the details of some
[57:06] of the things have been said but I think I
[57:08] the first thing that I think we're also saying is
[57:11] that we do need to protect this property it is
[57:14] abundantly clear to me that ... any great city that
[57:17] you can think of in the world has one of
[57:19] the reasons it's great is because it has all these
[57:21] unique ... interesting and probably historic prop property is that
[57:25] it is ... preserved and if I mean I'm all
[57:28] go down the list I'm sure you have a list
[57:31] ... you know I've also been to seminars that you
[57:33] know there's three or four things that you do when
[57:35] you create a great city and one of them is
[57:37] preserve your your uniqueness and your historic building so I
[57:39] think that's clear and I think we're all singing from
[57:41] the same song sheet on that which is great ...
[57:46] the the the whole idea of in my mind from
[57:49] anything I've learned that is the only way that we're
[57:52] really going to be able to save heritage buildings realistically
[57:55] is to have them be able to be repurposed and
[57:58] be reincorporated into something else and I think that is
[58:01] by far with a question in my mind the number
[58:03] one way to go and Mr Blakey ... you did
[58:06] mention that cover notes that stop good example in Richmond
[58:10] hill but if you go down to Toronto there's many
[58:12] examples where an old building comes something new and it
[58:15] becomes a part of something new as well and I
[58:17] think that's absolutely the formula that that's proven to be
[58:21] a winner
[58:22] so
[58:24] I think that the the problem I have two problems
[58:26] with this motion and it's only on see that I
[58:29] have the problem I don't think that ... we can't
[58:33] afford is a municipality to be buying any ... carriage
[58:37] building that needs to be bought and nor do I
[58:39] think we should it's not a good value for the
[58:41] taxpayer because
[58:43] in a situation like this ... that the old building
[58:47] will become a profitable venture for something new it's it's
[58:52] you know and the onus is on the owners unfortunately
[58:54] to them in the body with a historic building on
[58:56] it the onus is on that the ... owner to
[58:59] deal with the property the way it is and if
[59:01] there was a ravine in the middle of the property
[59:03] they would have restrictions on what you could build in
[59:05] the routine if there's a historic building there's a good
[59:07] possibility that there will be restrictions on what you can
[59:10] do because they start building the builders and developers are
[59:13] creative people and they can come up with creative designs
[59:16] I that's one example that comes to mind showed I've
[59:19] seen that actually and I think it shows that it
[59:21] is possible if we restrict this also to being a
[59:25] school house that goes against what I just said because
[59:29] you are freezing not only the building in time but
[59:32] you're also for using the use and that building they
[59:36] don't have one room schoolhouses anymore I mean that that
[59:39] that ... the model of education is long since gone
[59:43] and ... so allowing that school has to be calm
[59:48] whatever the market wants it to be calm is really
[59:51] important and if if we restrict what it can be
[59:55] we're really defeating the purpose of all of the stuff
[59:57] and frankly I believe were probably destined to fail in
[1:00:00] the situation ... hi I would be able to support
[1:00:05] see if we took out the part about looking at
[1:00:08] the feasibility of purchasing this the school has because I
[1:00:10] just don't think that's the answer ... I think the
[1:00:13] answer is in my mind is fairly simple we deny
[1:00:17] the permit application the demolition permit application which is in
[1:00:20] B. and ... we say to the owner and it
[1:00:24] will continue probably I would assume to say to the
[1:00:27] owner that we'll do everything we can to help that
[1:00:30] building be incorporated into some other conceptual design and you
[1:00:34] know will it be easy no but it will it
[1:00:36] could happen I've seen this happen in my world with
[1:00:39] thirty five right street we had ... demolition application that
[1:00:43] we work with the owner now we have this design
[1:00:45] we're gonna incorporate the ... the end dean one of
[1:00:49] the Indian family homes into the lobby of this new
[1:00:53] development that's going to happen and it actually looks really
[1:00:55] great I I'm quite pleased with that design so ...
[1:00:59] I think that the the way to go about this
[1:01:01] is actually very simple ... I think a and B.
[1:01:04] are completely valid and I think that's what we should
[1:01:07] do I think he would be fine if it if
[1:01:10] it didn't include the bother bothering to go down the
[1:01:14] rabbit hole of ... the feasibility of purchasing it ...
[1:01:18] but I would say though that ... you know this
[1:01:22] is possible and it's been shown to be possible in
[1:01:25] many many situations and I think
[1:01:29] regard if we if we have approved a and B.
[1:01:31] and not see I would absolutely go to our staff
[1:01:35] first thing after this meeting and say you know what
[1:01:38] go out there have a meeting with the guy if
[1:01:40] you haven't already and I'm sure we have and make
[1:01:42] sure we do everything in our power to to get
[1:01:45] this done because working together collaboratively is definitely the way
[1:01:49] to go here and it is possible so those are
[1:01:52] my comments ... when this comes time ... Mr mayor
[1:01:56] I'd like a N. B. C. two B. twelve A.
[1:01:59] M. B. could be one I guess but a and
[1:02:00] B. maybe voted out together let's see separately
[1:02:06] all right close the service
[1:02:09] thank you Mr mayor thank you too ... the delegates
[1:02:12] in order to staff who's worked tirelessly on this that's
[1:02:16] true heritage Richmond hill and answered planning ... I agreed
[1:02:22] to it to a certain degree with my seat mate
[1:02:25] and fellow HRH ... at council a committee member state
[1:02:30] councillor David west ...
[1:02:32] a a and B. of this motion without question the
[1:02:36] permit the demolition permit must be denied and we are
[1:02:39] in it we are in the middle of a ticking
[1:02:41] clock and that's denial of demo permit must come to
[1:02:45] day so there's no question about that ... what I
[1:02:48] do find curious is that this this this motion is
[1:02:52] very similar to the one that was supposed to say
[1:02:55] council a few weeks ago by myself and if I
[1:02:58] want I want to I want to draw people's attention
[1:03:01] to out of the river the revised it M. agenda
[1:03:05] on page six fiftieths one seventy five on page fifty
[1:03:08] one of one seventy five when you look at the
[1:03:11] main motion as amended moved by the vice chair of
[1:03:15] HRH March Andre recommendation one that heritage which were your
[1:03:19] committee recommends to counsel that the ... staff report be
[1:03:24] received that the demolition be denied that the city creek
[1:03:29] place it publishes in the local newspaper and then what
[1:03:32] was added day was that the manager of realistic be
[1:03:34] directed to contact the landowner to begin discussions to investigate
[1:03:38] the feasibility of purchasing the for much of the schoolhouse
[1:03:42] ... and then there was an E. so when this
[1:03:45] came to council a few weeks ago am I I
[1:03:50] also I made a motion that day D. should be
[1:03:53] changed because should be amended because it was certain restrictions
[1:03:56] that we face as a public entity ...
[1:04:01] stick to the office today not talk about last counts
[1:04:04] me I'm speaking to the motion
[1:04:07] okay you are here reciting what okay so when you
[1:04:12] go to
[1:04:13] fine I'll I will I will discuss that no further
[1:04:16] it is in our agenda
[1:04:18] M.
[1:04:20] so through you Mister mayor I need to go to
[1:04:22] a commissioner of planning commission of corn through the discussions
[1:04:26] that I have had with you regarding this matter if
[1:04:30] you look at sea there there were you explain to
[1:04:35] me that there were specific policy this policy mechanisms that
[1:04:39] we have to follow in order to in order to
[1:04:42] purchase ... this asset as to you Mister may I'd
[1:04:46] like commission according to please explain that again to us
[1:04:50] because I believe it's germane
[1:04:55] three Mister mayor ... the typical policy ... process to
[1:05:00] purchase a heritage property would be that we would initiate
[1:05:03] the discussions prior to an application for the demolition however
[1:05:08] I do understand the intent of council and ... I
[1:05:11] think up by having option for paragraph C. in the
[1:05:14] resolution reinforces council's intent to the owner and staff understand
[1:05:21] ... what we can look at and we will be
[1:05:23] presenting options with no ... premonition here as to what
[1:05:28] the outcome may be ... but certainly purchasing is still
[1:05:31] an option whether or not it's a probability remains to
[1:05:34] be seen I will certainly look into planning solution if
[1:05:37] at all viable
[1:05:39] thank you commissioner so just just to confirm to you
[1:05:42] Mr mayor you're saying that the wording of C. in
[1:05:46] your opinion with regards to policy M. is is ...
[1:05:52] is applicables
[1:05:54] 3 miss Meredith does not cause a sergeant
[1:05:57] thank you and I needed to I needed to to
[1:05:59] ... to make sure about that so I absolutely support
[1:06:03] a and B. I do have a problem with C.
[1:06:06] I. I feel that as as the council was set
[1:06:11] that you buy
[1:06:14] by microscope that the use of this back into another
[1:06:20] school house well that would be excellent I believe as
[1:06:23] well all kinds of of ... initiative should be looked
[1:06:28] at once this is purchased and it comes to us
[1:06:32] how can we repurpose this how can this be repurposed
[1:06:35] by anybody who wishes to come in and and get
[1:06:38] the house in in the little house so I can't
[1:06:42] support C. as is written I would respectfully suggest to
[1:06:46] the mover of the motion and the second act that
[1:06:49] perhaps some further discussion be had about that those few
[1:06:52] words for the purpose on converting the building back into
[1:06:56] a school house be amended to be far more brought
[1:07:01] because thank you to be formal board because as it
[1:07:05] stands right now I believe we are we are we
[1:07:08] are microscope in this and we should not be doing
[1:07:10] this as counsel away said it could actually failed because
[1:07:14] of that thank you
[1:07:17] because the bears
[1:07:21] thank you Mr mayor
[1:07:24] for those who don't know I I sat for a
[1:07:26] number of my first couple terms on heritage Richmond hill
[1:07:30] ... and and this is not the first time in
[1:07:32] this building has has come up ... and if in
[1:07:35] fact many years ago with previous councils I suggested
[1:07:41] nothing is gonna happen
[1:07:43] unless the council buys it nothing will happen no one
[1:07:48] else has those deep pockets to just throw good money
[1:07:53] away to keep the building alive
[1:07:57] counter the Dabo said we're not buying it
[1:08:01] how we gonna live up to the scrutiny of the
[1:08:03] the taxpayers by spending that kind of money and I
[1:08:06] should for those you don't know the property is no
[1:08:09] running water the property has no sewer connection
[1:08:14] the property doesn't even have appropriate zoning for the current
[1:08:17] uses for for years
[1:08:21] no foundation for you as a brick building like that
[1:08:24] would not have had the day would have built on
[1:08:26] the the soil for years we've worked with previous owners
[1:08:30] and current owners to look the other way on zoning
[1:08:33] matters to allow what ever used could possibly come into
[1:08:38] the building to keep the building alive because we all
[1:08:41] know
[1:08:42] an empty building
[1:08:44] deteriorate quicker but the building is being used so for
[1:08:48] years and years and years multiple councils have tried with
[1:08:52] previous owners and current owners to try to get something
[1:08:57] at there has been attempts by previous and current owners
[1:09:02] to put applications in
[1:09:05] but to no avail because my opinion
[1:09:11] when they finally start looking at the financials of the
[1:09:13] whole thing
[1:09:16] the feasibility dies again
[1:09:19] because I've been more than willing over the years two
[1:09:23] okay fine we're gonna lose most of the building but
[1:09:27] let's rebuild the facade on the new building
[1:09:30] let's move the building on the property and none of
[1:09:34] those have come to fruition
[1:09:39] and and I hate to say this because I I'm
[1:09:43] I'm fearful to offend the group that is here
[1:09:46] but there's limited public interest
[1:09:49] this is being in the papers over the years a
[1:09:53] number of times ... I received one phone call
[1:09:57] from a resident in my ward and we spoke of
[1:10:01] it we spoke of the issues and we left with
[1:10:03] the yeah what do we do
[1:10:06] we don't at this point seem to have a willing
[1:10:08] owner to say look at will spend whatever we got
[1:10:10] to spend we get it there hasn't been a a
[1:10:14] a a a go fund me or crowd sourcing of
[1:10:17] the residents saying well let's see if we can't make
[1:10:20] up the difference so the owner can actually preserve it
[1:10:24] within a project
[1:10:27] well
[1:10:28] I have not received a mandate from my residence to
[1:10:31] spend taxpayers money
[1:10:34] on cleaning up every old historic building
[1:10:38] encounters in the past have
[1:10:42] and I look at some of those buildings now and
[1:10:44] the other great buildings but they're not living up to
[1:10:46] their potential and we're struggling now is a council what
[1:10:49] do we do with them how do we incorporate them
[1:10:52] into future use how do we keep the holding economical
[1:10:56] so I'm glad that it's the C. has been taken
[1:10:59] out or not taking up what has been separated I
[1:11:03] cannot support see in any way shape or form if
[1:11:07] there is a ... a private group that wants to
[1:11:10] buy the property and restore the whole thing of course
[1:11:13] the municipality will bend over backwards to facilitate that
[1:11:19] but for us to put our money to it I
[1:11:22] I can't support that at all thank you Mr mayor
[1:11:26] thank you custody of
[1:11:28] he was the mayor and
[1:11:30] I'm in full support of ... on preserving the Jefferson
[1:11:33] school house so a and B. I don't think anybody
[1:11:36] has any problem here's what I'm hearing is it's pretty
[1:11:38] obvious that we're on the same page we all want
[1:11:41] to be sort of the ... Jefferson schoolhouse in terms
[1:11:43] of ... see ... I'm a bit confused about the
[1:11:48] motion because we said okay we explore tentative options and
[1:11:52] also at the same time we are asking
[1:11:56] the feasibility of purchasing it and converting it back to
[1:11:59] a schoolhouse so is either like we talking about the
[1:12:03] same thing over you with conflict in each other ...
[1:12:06] what I'm suggesting to you move a motion is you
[1:12:09] know maybe we should
[1:12:11] first explore the alternative options to preserve the Jefferson school
[1:12:15] house maybe you can act including the feasibility of pursing
[1:12:19] the purchasing the former ... schoolhouse or converting it back
[1:12:24] into the schoolhouse but but now I'll see is is
[1:12:28] is a bit I don't know ... about the residents
[1:12:31] here but I'm a bit confused because with every by
[1:12:34] it but we also look at different options so I
[1:12:37] think we should just look for options if you like
[1:12:39] it you can including you know purchasing purchasing the ...
[1:12:43] the schoolhouse and converting it back into school house so
[1:12:47] is my suggestions the mover marched on to the motion
[1:12:50] although it will make ... you know everybody covered because
[1:12:53] I I want it that the United need counseling as
[1:12:56] well
[1:12:57] thank you estimate as Mayacamas and also ... sorry I
[1:13:02] also because ... I don't know because we live A.
[1:13:05] B. C. here but when I look when when when
[1:13:08] I look at the ... the stock recommendations we also
[1:13:10] have a B. C. D. U. so we missing a
[1:13:13] which is to receive the staff report and E. which
[1:13:16] is the ... the supplemental information ... ... provided by
[1:13:21] toxic study Kelly to be received so I don't know
[1:13:24] if we need to add those in there to make
[1:13:27] the motion you know more complete so that's just my
[1:13:30] comments thank you Mr mayor yeah
[1:13:33] ... I have some comments to denote who turned to
[1:13:36] the clerk it says be received is that required we're
[1:13:40] dealing with it we've got a motion on so desperate
[1:13:43] for
[1:13:44] all right ... my comments are ... simply I I
[1:13:48] I
[1:13:49] I'm in favor of C. the way it is ...
[1:13:51] because I read into it that we contact the landowner
[1:13:54] about the feasibility of purchasing as well as exploring the
[1:13:59] alternative options to preserve the Jeff the Jefferson school house
[1:14:04] and when we do go back to ... thirteen point
[1:14:08] four which is the one that we're dealing with now
[1:14:10] our motion the reason we're here today was the motion
[1:14:13] said that we deferred it ... to permit consultations on
[1:14:18] the future of the Jefferson school so I think we've
[1:14:20] captured it all here and I have no problem in
[1:14:25] in the supporting this motion
[1:14:28] to observe probably
[1:14:33] go ahead
[1:14:35] thank you Mr mayor so
[1:14:37] we've we've heard a lot of comments and
[1:14:43] end up what I wanted to say Mr America is
[1:14:46] that
[1:14:48] if we simply deny the demolition app application and and
[1:14:54] don't put a CD in their
[1:14:57] everything stays status quo and the status quo sadly is
[1:15:02] that that building continues to deteriorate
[1:15:05] and when it falls
[1:15:08] when it falls
[1:15:10] the hardship that the current owner is going through
[1:15:14] will not allow him
[1:15:18] to restore that building
[1:15:21] then more difficult decisions will have to be made again
[1:15:26] who's going to pay for the restoration of that building
[1:15:29] what will the restoration look like will it be the
[1:15:32] old Jefferson schools will we recognize it as the old
[1:15:35] jobs schools
[1:15:37] and so we have to be very careful how we
[1:15:40] cast our votes today because my fear is and my
[1:15:45] prediction is
[1:15:47] this like many other heritage properties in Richmond hill and
[1:15:51] we have a few that are in the radar right
[1:15:55] now that are unsafe
[1:15:59] M. one they're unsafe we now this council will be
[1:16:02] forced with the decision between safety to the community and
[1:16:07] preserving heritage
[1:16:09] and the liability thank you councilman and the liability that
[1:16:12] goes along with it and sadly I believe it's my
[1:16:16] opinion that if workforce between the choice of the heritage
[1:16:21] versus the safety safety will win
[1:16:25] and the staff in the building department may recommend demolition
[1:16:30] of the property for public safety and now we enter
[1:16:34] into very very complicated legal process
[1:16:38] and once we go down that rabbit hole we're not
[1:16:41] coming back from the
[1:16:43] so
[1:16:44] I want to be clear we need to do something
[1:16:47] other than just deny and that's why I did see
[1:16:52] I don't know if the residents of Richmond hill are
[1:16:55] going to back us other than the forty one signature
[1:16:59] petition that you presented to us thirty five of which
[1:17:03] lived in Richmond hello five which did not thirty six
[1:17:06] I think it is ... but other than that we
[1:17:10] need the support of the community if we don't have
[1:17:13] the support of the community then this council may decide
[1:17:16] not to purchase
[1:17:18] the other options to explore alternatives really that's not the
[1:17:22] mandate of the council or the city those options have
[1:17:26] we spoken available counselor munches worked with this landowner I've
[1:17:31] worked with this landowner I see members in the audience
[1:17:35] who have considered buying this property I won't identify them
[1:17:38] to point them out but they wanted to buy this
[1:17:40] property you do something like councilman showed everybody but it
[1:17:45] didn't work so please let's support this and try to
[1:17:49] do something to preserve this because if we don't if
[1:17:53] we just deny the application and forget about it
[1:17:57] then sadly I think we're going to see a pile
[1:18:00] of rubble there in short order those are my comments
[1:18:03] Mr mayor thank you okay that is before us we
[1:18:07] are going to deal with
[1:18:10] a second round of the second round
[1:18:15] I was wrapped up so it's a second
[1:18:19] certainly go ahead thank you very much you should be
[1:18:22] upset thank you Mr mayor and ... thank you ...
[1:18:26] ... ...
[1:18:28] everyone for the input and I listened carefully to ...
[1:18:32] ... everyone my called saying and I think that I
[1:18:37] find it a bit surprising ... somebody use the board
[1:18:40] shot ...
[1:18:42] confuse all I'm not confused at all all the only
[1:18:46] thing that I can see what the reason being is
[1:18:50] that please okay okay your comment should be about okay
[1:18:54] the motion right the motion before us look yeah that's
[1:18:58] what I'm doing Mister mayor less by I'm calling you
[1:19:02] from my peers but one thing in common is a
[1:19:05] common thing here everyone helping speaking want to preserve it
[1:19:09] the V. D. divergence size views all up what to
[1:19:14] do with it our necks but what we talk about
[1:19:16] we can see is that we are asking staff that's
[1:19:20] why stress previously report back to council we are not
[1:19:24] saying today go out and purchase it and pay acts
[1:19:28] media dollars no look at all options offering stock to
[1:19:32] come back and they'll report to council then the decision
[1:19:36] is made so to suggest knowledge of whether we after
[1:19:40] stepping into only one direction ... I have to be
[1:19:44] ... respectfully disagree about it does see we pass that
[1:19:49] give the mandate to stop to look at all options
[1:19:52] now the only restoration ... I half is what it
[1:19:55] in fact I would only for the use of schoolhouse
[1:19:58] but if the stock will come back I like this
[1:20:01] sometimes issues are going to see so I'm stealing some
[1:20:03] pop off A. B. C. and I do echo the
[1:20:07] same words as the movers saying refer you do nothing
[1:20:10] just denying it and I've seen in the past that's
[1:20:14] something I'm afraid might happen that that may be too
[1:20:18] late to save it thank you recently
[1:20:23] okay let's let's move on to the auto sector
[1:20:27] okay we are talking about this motion
[1:20:30] not not
[1:20:32] I think of this motion
[1:20:35] what you not each other okay
[1:20:38] coach
[1:20:40] thank you Mr mayor our question to the commissioner of
[1:20:43] planning
[1:20:47] we're not private planners
[1:20:51] do we have the ability under the municipal act or
[1:20:55] the planning act or any act to
[1:20:58] preemptively create zoning for a property without an application from
[1:21:04] the owner ... do we have the ability to to
[1:21:08] market such property to the private sector without the owners
[1:21:13] ... ability I'm just wondering what is it that we
[1:21:17] can do as as admits a power need to explore
[1:21:20] options what do you interpret that as meaning
[1:21:26] 3 Mister Maher
[1:21:27] are you Mister bear
[1:21:30] I interpret this is looking at all options to preserve
[1:21:33] the building without use restrictions I don't I do not
[1:21:37] see those words here at this time and ... certainly
[1:21:42] to answer the broader question of council's authority ... this
[1:21:45] Lister can correct me a council can rezone a property
[1:21:49] at any time however that's certainly not the general practice
[1:21:53] we we passed comprehensive bylaws or area specific bylaws but
[1:21:57] generally not site specific bylaws without a development application for
[1:22:02] that individual property by the owner
[1:22:05] the three Mister Merrett by denying this it maintains the
[1:22:09] protection that it has under the Ontario heritage act
[1:22:17] I'd like a bit more ... dialogue on the exploring
[1:22:22] alternative options
[1:22:26] are we a are we able as a municipality to
[1:22:29] waive all fees for applications are we able to waive
[1:22:34] development charges so that something could be built here that
[1:22:37] can't thus far be financially built here
[1:22:41] trying to I'm just trying to for the for the
[1:22:43] betterment of residents understand what we can or can't do
[1:22:46] it we don't have a willing owner that hasn't put
[1:22:49] it a complete application and yet and previous owners haven't
[1:22:52] put in complete applications yet to bring it to the
[1:22:55] point of counsel being able to approve
[1:22:58] some use
[1:23:01] three of us to actually we do have an active
[1:23:04] development applications on file ... however the owner has chosen
[1:23:08] not to pursue the finalization of those applications they've been
[1:23:12] in effect for well probably three or four years now
[1:23:16] but they have been suspended at the owner's request the
[1:23:19] past year or so ... if the option and further
[1:23:22] discussions with the owner become but does become issues for
[1:23:27] discussion points of discussion we can certainly report that out
[1:23:31] and explore the feasibility if that is what it takes
[1:23:34] to preserve the building but certainly that will be a
[1:23:36] decision of council has soup some date in the future
[1:23:39] when we report
[1:23:41] so three Mister Maher so were you saying yes we
[1:23:44] can waive development charges we can waive application fees we
[1:23:48] can
[1:23:49] fast track it so to save the building
[1:23:54] for clarity Mr Maher three Mister mayor we will explore
[1:23:58] any and all options with the owner Mister mayor off
[1:24:03] to directed to the CEO that if the commissioners not
[1:24:05] able or not willing to answer the question
[1:24:08] city manager are we able to waive development charges permit
[1:24:14] fees and fast track an application in the spirit of
[1:24:19] saving the building
[1:24:22] three Mister where there's ... things in there that I'm
[1:24:25] not entirely sure if we have to do some research
[1:24:27] in terms of making sure it's not going to sing
[1:24:29] a specific ... ... developments monetarily however fast tracking is
[1:24:35] certainly on the table we can certainly look at ...
[1:24:38] how we can affect those changes ... and then put
[1:24:44] a package together for this individual if that's if that's
[1:24:47] the desire of counsel I I again I specifically can't
[1:24:51] say might have to defer that to others a report
[1:24:54] back on on the financial incentives we can provide is
[1:24:57] generally not allowed but ... ... there certain process things
[1:25:02] and timing things we can certainly do to ... ...
[1:25:05] ... to facilitate a development that incorporates the building
[1:25:11] would you be more comfortable going on camera to have
[1:25:13] that discussion
[1:25:15] because I I I've been here for fourteen years I've
[1:25:18] received a number of pieces of advice from current staff
[1:25:22] from previous staff when it comes to
[1:25:26] what you said bonus
[1:25:28] but it now sounds like we're all not knowing or
[1:25:31] not wanting to say anything
[1:25:33] three American ... it's not a question of not willing
[1:25:36] to say it I I simply don't know ... whether
[1:25:40] that financial tense can be provided for for up ...
[1:25:45] this use I know we can provide ... financial centers
[1:25:49] through a convenient community improvement plan such as deferral DC
[1:25:53] deferrals and application leaders and so on so it's in
[1:25:56] the context of it another process and I'm not exactly
[1:25:59] sure where this would fit I'm sure if that's the
[1:26:03] desire of cancel we could try to figure something out
[1:26:05] ... locals lined
[1:26:08] thank you Mr mayor
[1:26:11] all right the motion
[1:26:14] the clerk question too Hey it's me
[1:26:18] and then C. 7
[1:26:20] according
[1:26:22] Cordova yes Sir Wes
[1:26:28] this was three Mister mayor voting on because a and
[1:26:37] B. of the main motion councilor Wes cancer chan
[1:26:43] cancer cell events
[1:26:45] yes
[1:26:46] reach a local councillor Perrelli yes cancer Leo
[1:26:51] cancer burrows yes reach a local culture to Paula yes
[1:26:56] Kilcher munches
[1:26:58] barrow yeah
[1:27:00] because a and B. of the motion carried unanimously
[1:27:05] voting on clause see of the motion council west cancer
[1:27:09] much
[1:27:11] no
[1:27:12] Qalqilia yes culture celebrates
[1:27:18] yes with reservations to the text borough
[1:27:22] yeah
[1:27:23] reach a local culture to Paula yes reach a local
[1:27:27] culture pearly yes Kilcher Verreaux's
[1:27:31] cancer chan yes
[1:27:35] Corsi of the motion carries only in the entire motion
[1:27:38] is carried
[1:27:41] thank you
[1:27:50] the
[1:27:53] yeah is
[1:27:58] hi
[1:28:00] 2 delegations are
[1:28:05] Jenny wants to delegate
[1:28:08] I'm sorry
[1:28:11] she was on the
[1:28:14] this is the
[1:28:21] okay there is we have a
[1:28:26] please
[1:28:27] 
[1:28:31] for the plant 130
[1:28:36] is the service call
[1:28:44] mayors councillors and fellow residents my name is Carrie Tice
[1:28:48] I am an engineer and I have been a resident
[1:28:50] of Richmond hill for seventeen years I would like to
[1:28:53] thank you for the opportunity to speak today about the
[1:28:56] very urgent issue of climate change
[1:28:59] I have read the staff report on Richmond hills climate
[1:29:02] change actions and want to commend the city of Richmond
[1:29:05] hill for all the great work they are doing and
[1:29:08] continue to do
[1:29:09] from this report it is evident that we all agree
[1:29:12] that climate change is an urgent issue so I'm not
[1:29:15] going to talk about the impacts we're seeing worldwide and
[1:29:19] even in our own backyards
[1:29:21] I stood in front of you eight months ago in
[1:29:24] support of the motion to declare a climate emergency brought
[1:29:28] forward by coun Sir David west at that time you
[1:29:31] may remember my neighbors and I had just formed the
[1:29:34] climate group neighbors for the planet hoping to generate more
[1:29:38] public awareness in our community about the climate crisis our
[1:29:42] goal is to empower individuals to reduce carbon emissions and
[1:29:46] their individual lives in their community and Canada wide
[1:29:51] as you are aware we are not the only climate
[1:29:53] group in our community there is also the blue dot
[1:29:57] drawdown targeting climate change and our news group extinction rebellion
[1:30:03] we work closely together with different approaches to tackle this
[1:30:06] issue different approaches but we all are all needed to
[1:30:10] reach everyone
[1:30:12] I would like to briefly summarize what has transpired since
[1:30:16] we were here eight months ago
[1:30:18] in July last year we held the first climate rally
[1:30:21] in Richmond hill
[1:30:23] where 50 people attended
[1:30:26] two months later in September we held another climate rally
[1:30:30] this time two hundred and fifty people attended
[1:30:35] people wanted to join us they were concerned about the
[1:30:37] climate crisis and wanted to do something but they weren't
[1:30:40] sure what they could do
[1:30:43] at that point I realized that the climate strikes were
[1:30:45] not enough so in October we started holding bi monthly
[1:30:49] meetings
[1:30:51] we are currently working on three initiatives transportation changing eating
[1:30:55] habits and food waste as they are some of the
[1:30:58] biggest contributors to carbon emissions
[1:31:01] a lot of people with great knowledge and expertise are
[1:31:04] devoting their free time because they are worried about the
[1:31:07] future we're leaving the next generations
[1:31:10] students are also engaged my fifteen year old daughter has
[1:31:14] started a climate action committee at her school ten students
[1:31:18] came to her first meeting they want their voices heard
[1:31:21] and to take their power back and change their future
[1:31:25] I'm also hosting a community student climate action group some
[1:31:29] students had expressed interest in our meetings I thought they
[1:31:32] could benefit by coming together to collaborate and support each
[1:31:35] other students from five different schools will be attending our
[1:31:39] first students get together this weekend
[1:31:43] this will be student led and I'm simply providing a
[1:31:45] space for them to meet and of course some snacks
[1:31:49] I am impressed by the energy spirit and leadership in
[1:31:52] our community the residents of Richmond hill are concerned and
[1:31:56] stepping up to do what they can to act on
[1:31:59] climate but there is only so much they can do
[1:32:04] what I have learned these last eight months is that
[1:32:06] individual change is important
[1:32:09] community engagement is even more important as it will lead
[1:32:12] to bigger change but we will never get the reductions
[1:32:15] in carbon emissions that are needed without systematic change
[1:32:20] we need change from all levels of government so I
[1:32:23] am asking you our elected officials to see the climate
[1:32:27] crisis for what it is and add urgency to the
[1:32:30] great work you are already doing
[1:32:33] the United nation IPCC report says we need to decrease
[1:32:36] our emissions by forty five percent from the two thousand
[1:32:40] and five levels by twenty thirty and to get to
[1:32:44] net zero by twenty fifty
[1:32:47] I ask you are we doing enough and quickly enough
[1:32:50] to meet these targets thank you
[1:33:02] this feature
[1:33:06] welcome
[1:33:07] joining
[1:33:15] the first action on climate change that we need to
[1:33:17] take is to have an open and honest conversation about
[1:33:20] it I'm relieved that we the people of Richmond hill
[1:33:23] are in the process of doing this already so I
[1:33:26] welcome this opportunity to acknowledge the staff report that has
[1:33:28] been prepared for consideration today since the June eleventh council
[1:33:32] meeting when I spoke about why I felt a need
[1:33:35] to declare climate emergency I've been involved in several initiatives
[1:33:38] in the community in order to help move the conversation
[1:33:41] forward I helped organize the Richmond hill welcome to four
[1:33:44] model was city councilor to Richmond hill so that he
[1:33:47] could talk about his book called burning souls it's a
[1:33:51] story about climate change with fictional characters based on real
[1:33:54] science last October I prepared a series of community discussions
[1:33:59] that was presented over three evenings the sessions will complement
[1:34:02] one of one click to aligning climate three oh one
[1:34:04] and we're intended to have conversations with people of various
[1:34:08] levels of understanding in September I took part in the
[1:34:11] climate strike organized by Kerry and spoke about why I
[1:34:14] was inspired by Greta sunburst the teenager from Sweden who
[1:34:17] spoke at the United Nations at Davos and at the
[1:34:20] twenty nineteen international climate conference with so many attending the
[1:34:24] strike I was feeling hopeful that our community is ready
[1:34:27] to talk about solutions I do feel however that we
[1:34:30] need all levels of government to be actively involved to
[1:34:33] help us reach even more people the staff report that
[1:34:36] has been prepared for the counselors is to give background
[1:34:39] and a summary of climate change actions possible at the
[1:34:42] municipal level it takes into account the potential economic impact
[1:34:46] of climate change as future extreme weather conditions become more
[1:34:50] common I am pleased to say that I understand and
[1:34:52] appreciate the content in this report because I've been doing
[1:34:55] quite a bit of reading about climate change for the
[1:34:58] last few years I read books by scientists what psychologist
[1:35:01] by communists and I've attended conferences and our mental seminars
[1:35:04] and election debates ten years ago there was very little
[1:35:07] mention of understanding of the climate crisis and now well
[1:35:10] of course we hear it in the
[1:35:11] news all the time the wildfires in Ontario and British
[1:35:14] Columbia and California Siberia and of course Australia these fires
[1:35:19] may not have been literally caused by climate change but
[1:35:22] they have certainly been exacerbated by it we're fortunate here
[1:35:25] in Richmond hill because we may not have the same
[1:35:28] emergency situations as in other parts of the world but
[1:35:31] our food sources and way of life will certainly be
[1:35:33] affected by it Furthermore this is a problem that we
[1:35:36] are partly responsible for because of our use of burning
[1:35:40] natural gas and fuel in our everyday life we don't
[1:35:43] need to be made to feel guilty though and the
[1:35:45] worst thing we can do is start shaming others for
[1:35:48] their lifestyle choices the best thing we can do is
[1:35:51] decide what solutions we need to work on and get
[1:35:54] down to business the staff report on climate change echoes
[1:35:57] what we had to drive down Richmond hill drive in
[1:35:59] Markham and drawdown Newmarket Aurora have already concluded and that
[1:36:03] is that we need to concentrate our efforts on the
[1:36:06] three areas that have the greatest carbon footprint one transportation
[1:36:10] turnips to home heating and cooling three land choices there
[1:36:14] are a hundred things that we could be doing that
[1:36:16] several of them were mentioned last Sunday in the climate
[1:36:18] change symposium they had to do with food choices and
[1:36:21] reducing food waste what we need from regional councils to
[1:36:25] help promote these ideas even more in the community some
[1:36:27] of us citizens are using our own time and money
[1:36:30] to achieve that which would be so much easier if
[1:36:32] we had some creative financial backing and some ongoing verbal
[1:36:35] acknowledgment I know the council and staff are busy with
[1:36:38] so many things on your plate and I appreciate that
[1:36:41] you're taking more time on the subject I appreciate the
[1:36:44] counselor Perrelli came to a community town hall and purchased
[1:36:49] a couple of books on climate change so they could
[1:36:51] learn more I appreciate getting to know Richmond hill staff
[1:36:54] practically Maria Flores miles flooring press floor Julius Lindsay who
[1:36:58] I know are putting their heart and soul into the
[1:37:00] resilient regional program outreach and figuring out what we can
[1:37:04] do better I look forward to their full community and
[1:37:07] energy emissions plan that is being prepared for release in
[1:37:10] twenty twenty one
[1:37:12] that some of you have taken the effort to purchase
[1:37:14] books to learn more I appreciate that we have a
[1:37:17] couple of champions on council especially counselor west he's always
[1:37:20] open to ideas and will be available to help us
[1:37:23] I hope that each of you cancers will reach out
[1:37:25] and have discussion in your wards and keep this conversation
[1:37:28] going and I look forward to working with you on
[1:37:31] additional outreach to the community and truly appreciate that Richard
[1:37:34] hell's efforts will be part of the global solution to
[1:37:36] climate change in the future excellent
[1:37:46] Kathleen wall
[1:37:57] hello ... I am representing bluedot Richmond hill reading a
[1:38:01] submission by Cheryl do and asking my colleague who regret
[1:38:05] she was not able to attend today
[1:38:08] we are all aware of the global threats we face
[1:38:11] due to climate change well Richmond hell be ready
[1:38:15] increased awareness and concern for the climate crisis was evident
[1:38:18] during the federal election and Richmond hill is reflected in
[1:38:22] the number of environmental groups that have formed over the
[1:38:25] past few years and Kerry listed those groups for you
[1:38:29] Richmond hill blue dot was established five years ago over
[1:38:32] this time we work with the city on a variety
[1:38:35] of initiatives providing our group first hand knowledge of the
[1:38:38] dedication and expertise of the Richmond hill staff and details
[1:38:43] of their environmental programs the report provided by council outlines
[1:38:48] much of the excellent work being done as it relates
[1:38:50] to climate change and the reduction of greenhouse gases or
[1:38:54] GHGs as mentioned in the reports municipalities have direct or
[1:39:00] indirect control over sixty percent of Ontario's GHG emissions as
[1:39:05] they plan and regulate growth and development along with transportation
[1:39:09] systems and networks it stands to reason to prioritize GHGs
[1:39:14] and energy since it impacts so many areas of climate
[1:39:18] concerns to address climate change it would benefit the municipality
[1:39:22] to review their policies on transportation buildings and land use
[1:39:26] through a climate plans we noticed that much of the
[1:39:30] staff work is ongoing data is being collected conclusions drawn
[1:39:34] additional time is required to drive effective policy recommendations it
[1:39:39] may be beneficial to have expectations and targets identified over
[1:39:43] the short medium and long term wise conclusions are made
[1:39:47] it's anticipated that actions will be recommended
[1:39:51] leading by example is always favorable and the city should
[1:39:54] consider an internal audit if this is not already under
[1:39:58] way to see what I'm
[1:40:00] Clinton savings can be made at the city level bluedot
[1:40:03] suggested staff address some of the limitations are facing especially
[1:40:08] as it relates to transportation and being a multi tiered
[1:40:11] municipality but there may be others we believe it would
[1:40:14] be beneficial to create or strengthen alliances with other York
[1:40:19] regional municipalities and the region to address transportation issues as
[1:40:24] they relate to emissions is encouraging to see stuff reaching
[1:40:28] out to organizations and community groups to capitalize on their
[1:40:32] expertise we suggested to be continued and expanded with limited
[1:40:37] resources it's important to forge strong alliances in order for
[1:40:41] Richmond hill to be a leader cancel me council needs
[1:40:44] to provide staff with the leeway to research innovative ideas
[1:40:48] to current and upcoming climate concerns they need the opportunity
[1:40:52] to access leading edge technology and solutions including those that
[1:40:57] can be found with collaborative organizations such as the Ellen
[1:41:01] macarthur foundation bluedot has recommended York region participate with this
[1:41:06] group and the region is reviewing the feasibility of that
[1:41:09] through regional council as you know our neighbours Newmarket Aurora
[1:41:13] and Toronto as well as hundreds of other municipalities have
[1:41:17] declared a climate emergency the city of Toronto has been
[1:41:21] very proactive by adopting many actionable initiatives as you can
[1:41:25] see listed and Cheryl submission
[1:41:28] business opportunities existing climate solutions found in the building industry
[1:41:33] infrastructure clean technology and other mitigating measures often these solutions
[1:41:38] find cost savings along the way such as when Richmond
[1:41:41] hill changed to LED lighting legislative pharmacy may impose to
[1:41:46] ration however funding and grant opportunities from other levels of
[1:41:50] government may be contingent on forward thinking initiatives we hope
[1:41:54] Christian health that's not who is out on these opportunities
[1:41:58] we are all part of the climate change problem we
[1:42:01] need to be part of the solution through collective efforts
[1:42:04] real change can occur to provide a sustainable healthy environment
[1:42:08] this summer in a better position to affect change we
[1:42:11] need your support to make this happen as Richmond hill
[1:42:15] counselors you've taken an oath of loyalty and honesty deep
[1:42:18] blue serve to serve the community server right that citizens
[1:42:22] of Richmond help there's no greater responsibility to ensure a
[1:42:25] safe and healthy climate
[1:42:28] future generations depend on the decisions we make today historically
[1:42:32] council has honored the residents through their commitment to protecting
[1:42:35] our environment we hope you will continue to honor your
[1:42:38] oath to Richmond hill residents recognize the good work that
[1:42:41] has been done by staff and set forth a motion
[1:42:44] to enhance and build on their initiative for the good
[1:42:47] of Richmond hill it is time for real action thank
[1:42:50] you
[1:42:56] thank you and this is
[1:42:59] N. 13.8 so what
[1:43:03] I thank you Mr mayor thank you to the delegates
[1:43:05] ... thank you for all the work collectively the you're
[1:43:08] doing your groups ... I do not have to squeeze
[1:43:11] this in in five minutes but I wanted to propose
[1:43:14] a motion in a minute and I wanted before I
[1:43:17] go through each individual detail of that the motion I
[1:43:19] want to talk a little bit about the purpose
[1:43:22] ... I want to the first purpose of the motion
[1:43:25] about two
[1:43:26] put forward is to reinforce the past work of staff
[1:43:30] and endorsed further actions but I also want to kind
[1:43:32] of highlight some of the priorities that have been laid
[1:43:36] out in this excellent staff in front of us I
[1:43:39] don't want the motion to show leadership in our community
[1:43:42] and the wider community and I I think in doing
[1:43:44] so I think it encourages other groups ... and to
[1:43:48] do more things collaboratively ... in Richmond hill
[1:43:52] ... I think in with climate change there's a million
[1:43:55] things we need to do and ... we need to
[1:43:57] go you know it they'll be a whole bunch of
[1:43:59] people that will be involved in doing those things
[1:44:02] I think it's really important that we inventory and measure
[1:44:05] our communities greenhouse gas emissions if it can't be measured
[1:44:08] it can't be monitored
[1:44:10] on a practical level I think that having a good
[1:44:13] plan will help us leverage grant funding and that was
[1:44:16] actually mentioned a couple of times by the delegates ...
[1:44:20] and I think that you know on a also on
[1:44:22] a practical level the ... you know reducing the effects
[1:44:26] of climate change will help us as a municipality to
[1:44:28] deal with our infrastructure so there are some very practical
[1:44:31] reasons where I think we need to take action but
[1:44:33] I also think I mean most importantly that's the right
[1:44:36] thing to do and ... it is it is urgent
[1:44:39] whether we call it an emergency or whether we don't
[1:44:41] still need to take action I think that's becoming more
[1:44:43] and more clear to Mr Clark if I could ask
[1:44:45] you to put the motion up on the screen
[1:44:49] ... I want to go to this really quickly get
[1:44:52] it and I'm happy happy to take questions from my
[1:44:54] colleagues so part a is simply just to ... knowledge
[1:44:58] the appreciate with appreciation they worked staff is taken thus
[1:45:01] far I think it's an excellent report and I think
[1:45:03] we are doing quite a bit in our community and
[1:45:05] I would encourage them and like council to be able
[1:45:07] to encourage them to do so
[1:45:10] ... part B. and all the sub sections deal with
[1:45:13] ... their star city's corporate climate change framework in our
[1:45:17] community emissions and energy plan
[1:45:20] one is ... I think it's really important in this
[1:45:22] was referenced in the staff report that we look at
[1:45:25] a lot of our decisions going forward through a climate
[1:45:28] lands almost any decision that we make it mean in
[1:45:31] the municipality has some impact on a positive or negative
[1:45:34] way on climate change and we need to start incorporating
[1:45:37] that in a more formal way in what we do
[1:45:40] I really think it's important that we number two that
[1:45:43] to take a greenhouse gas inventory for Richmond hill and
[1:45:46] I believe that is part of the community and energy
[1:45:48] emissions plan but I wanted highlighted here because I think
[1:45:51] it's important but on top of that I think we
[1:45:53] need to identify targets and time frames for greenhouse ...
[1:45:57] gas emission reductions
[1:45:59] number three ... I would like to explore our options
[1:46:02] incentives to enable homeowners in the building in in the
[1:46:06] homeowners for building an energy efficient it's C. retrofits to
[1:46:10] conserve energy you save money and reduce greenhouse gas emissions
[1:46:14] that is actually happening in that number of municipalities but
[1:46:17] when I know for sure is Toronto right now and
[1:46:19] they're they're wrapped I've started this program
[1:46:22] ... I'd like to have ... options to promote private
[1:46:25] property resilience and we talked about this at the beginning
[1:46:28] of the meeting where I'm you know we've had some
[1:46:30] flooding and we're going to continue to have some flooding
[1:46:32] so I want to make sure that homeowners have all
[1:46:34] of the resources that they they can't to safeguard their
[1:46:37] homes
[1:46:39] our number five one of the low hanging fruits I
[1:46:42] think that we all have right now is the electrification
[1:46:45] of our vehicles and I believe that there is an
[1:46:47] opportunity to electrify some of the city's fleet as our
[1:46:51] gas powered vehicles need to be replaced and also I
[1:46:55] think with that comes the ... the need for us
[1:46:58] to be talking about getting electric charging stations in as
[1:47:01] many places as we can including our own ...
[1:47:06] it also in others
[1:47:08] I think we also need to impact and enhance the
[1:47:11] capacity of our community to implement charter climate change actions
[1:47:14] by developing a climate change community outreach to look at
[1:47:17] and that's essentially to engage our community and to engage
[1:47:20] some of the really good work that's already going on
[1:47:23] in the community we have a lot to learn from
[1:47:25] each other and I think this is very important ...
[1:47:28] on that note a story a number seven we have
[1:47:32] a sustainability metrics program which is I believe is a
[1:47:35] work winning ... when we first came out but I
[1:47:37] believe that there's probably also ... a reason for us
[1:47:41] to be thinking about additional incentives that we can give
[1:47:44] to builders to make more ... sustainable design features to
[1:47:48] support support our climate change mitigation ... I would like
[1:47:52] to stick explore the possibility of joining the global covenant
[1:47:55] of mayors that was something that David Miller was talking
[1:47:57] about it at clean air council meeting that we had
[1:48:00] recently and I think there's a lot of learning that
[1:48:02] can be had from being in a network like that
[1:48:06] and it's just great
[1:48:07] minute more Mr mayor I would also like to investigate
[1:48:11] ... available grant funding because I think that there is
[1:48:14] grant funding available and I believe that in the future
[1:48:16] there will likely be more so
[1:48:19] so just to quickly wrap up ... I do want
[1:48:22] to thank staff again for their excellent staff report I
[1:48:25] think it's very comprehensive and I really appreciate it so
[1:48:29] ... this is not all of the important actions that
[1:48:32] we're taking in the staff report they have been outlined
[1:48:34] there actually are others but I think it's a great
[1:48:36] start and I also believe that this motion if passed
[1:48:40] will ... allow us to do more in the future
[1:48:43] with it it can be added on to so that's
[1:48:45] my motion thank you
[1:48:48] so it
[1:48:49] thank you Mr mayor I'll gladly second this motion and
[1:48:53] I want to thank cancel west for all the work
[1:48:55] that he does in this regard and the discussions that
[1:48:58] I had with him on an ongoing basis are immeasurable
[1:49:02] I also want to command ... all the local groups
[1:49:05] the three that have stepped forward here today including other
[1:49:08] organizations who also present here today who insure that climate
[1:49:12] climate change climate emergency discussions are very prevalent in in
[1:49:18] whatever they discussed to their ... in their meetings in
[1:49:22] the two towards the congregations of women at these organizations
[1:49:27] meet a most wanted thank staff the staff report that
[1:49:30] was delivered to us is exceptional and ... for policy
[1:49:35] from a policy wise discussion it is superb so thank
[1:49:39] you very much to all who were involved into the
[1:49:41] entire department
[1:49:43] there can be no question that there is no greater
[1:49:46] existential threat facing humanity and our planet today than a
[1:49:51] climate emergency because of everything that climate change is imposing
[1:49:58] on us
[1:50:01] we as human beings most definitely need to take that
[1:50:04] take into account what we do that could be an
[1:50:08] exacerbating and dad making a making climate change move even
[1:50:14] faster than it should in any normal cycle of of
[1:50:18] climate change at the earth has experienced for millennia
[1:50:23] we are stewards of this earth and we certainly owe
[1:50:25] it to the earth to do that the very least
[1:50:28] ... I believe that this motion also brings us better
[1:50:32] in line with other York regional municipalities and other municipalities
[1:50:37] and regions in the greater Toronto Hamilton area M. where
[1:50:41] they have also passed similar motions and declared climate emergencies
[1:50:46] ... it's a pleasure to sit on the cleaning a
[1:50:48] council with my two seat makes a concert chan and
[1:50:52] council west and we do very good work ... there
[1:50:55] was well and with this group M. as we as
[1:50:58] we begin to formulate even more ... more programs and
[1:51:03] more at to find to find better ways for municipalities
[1:51:07] to work ... with
[1:51:10] with the residents and to work with staff in order
[1:51:13] to effect greater change so ... I think every I
[1:51:19] believe that every point in this motion is is is
[1:51:23] necessary is germane and ... I want to thank again
[1:51:28] councillor west and all the other community organizations for helping
[1:51:32] us with this for today thank you
[1:51:36] thank you fleur wrote
[1:51:42] thank you Mister Merrick
[1:51:45] of the last time we approach this conversation
[1:51:51] admittedly wasn't aware of all of the initiatives going on
[1:51:55] ...
[1:51:56] the role of member of council is vast there's so
[1:52:00] much that we need to know about so it helps
[1:52:03] to go out to organizations as the ones that were
[1:52:07] mentioned by Liz
[1:52:09] and ... I did go out and ... surprisingly I
[1:52:14] learned quite a bit
[1:52:16] what I learned most Mister Merrett was that
[1:52:21] there are things that we can do
[1:52:25] not just as individuals but as a council
[1:52:29] and I'm committed to doing those things and suggesting to
[1:52:33] counsel that we do those things
[1:52:37] I'm not prepared to declare climate emergency because
[1:52:42] to me that's just words I'd rather have some action
[1:52:47] one of the things Mr mayor that I learned at
[1:52:49] that meeting were ... and I bought a couple of
[1:52:52] books admittedly I haven't read them yet
[1:52:55] I haven't had the time
[1:52:57] but in speaking with the experts I learned something very
[1:53:00] interesting Mister Merrett
[1:53:02] that
[1:53:04] ... my son for example lives in a condominium building
[1:53:07] and he said that the you know I I'm concerned
[1:53:09] about the environment I think we should transition to electric
[1:53:14] vehicles as opposed to gas powered vehicles I said fantastic
[1:53:18] ideas so let's buy an electric car he said can't
[1:53:22] that I said why is nowhere to charge up my
[1:53:25] car and my condo building
[1:53:28] I said what do you mean
[1:53:29] because I can charge it up neither can the other
[1:53:32] six hundred people that live in the building
[1:53:35] so
[1:53:37] maybe it's a little thing maybe it's a big thing
[1:53:39] I don't know but my commitment Mr Maher
[1:53:43] to the climate issue is that each and at now
[1:53:47] in the building code in the building code is already
[1:53:50] been mandated that if you build a town house in
[1:53:54] council Barroso correct me because he educated me on this
[1:53:58] ... if I make a mistake please jump in ...
[1:54:01] that in the building code if you build a single
[1:54:04] family a semi or town house it's mandated that you
[1:54:08] must have one electric charging station infrastructure built at
[1:54:16] but not nothing exists for highrise development
[1:54:21] so my commitment is and I've spoken to all the
[1:54:25] applicants that have applications in right now for any mid
[1:54:29] rise or high rise applications that they will not get
[1:54:33] my support unless they provide infrastructure for each and every
[1:54:40] parking space to have the infrastructure to put in an
[1:54:44] electric charging station for the vehicles
[1:54:47] because these buildings that are being built we'll be here
[1:54:51] for a hundred years
[1:54:54] and if they don't have the charging stations now or
[1:54:57] the infrastructure for it then it's incumbent upon the building
[1:55:01] ... corporation that was formed later to retrofit it at
[1:55:07] an even higher cost
[1:55:10] and we don't need to do that so my commitment
[1:55:13] is moving forward every application and I hope my council
[1:55:16] colleagues support me when those applications come forward to make
[1:55:21] sure that each and every parking space has the infrastructure
[1:55:24] for electric vehicles
[1:55:26] so ... yes there's a lot of things we can
[1:55:29] do these are some of them my question to you
[1:55:32] Mr mayor is this these are all wonderful ideas presented
[1:55:37] by councillor west
[1:55:38] and my question is what will be the impact on
[1:55:43] a staff resources for example timing to do this and
[1:55:48] do we need to bring this up at a budget
[1:55:52] through you know Charmander Pollock to see if we have
[1:55:55] the resource because it's it's nice to direct them to
[1:55:59] do this but if they don't have the resources that
[1:56:02] they can't do it and so I think maybe we're
[1:56:05] just putting the cart before the horse to you Mr
[1:56:09] mayor to I guess city manager ...
[1:56:13] or whoever this would be under
[1:56:17] ... three Mister maybe I'll refer that to ... ...
[1:56:21] commissioner Kwan I I this is the first time since
[1:56:23] I don't know exactly what they are ...
[1:56:27] what it all entails weather is captured and things that
[1:56:30] we are planning on doing or or not so when
[1:56:32] the offer that refer that to I'm in the same
[1:56:34] position city manager ... it this the first time I
[1:56:36] see all of these options and I don't know if
[1:56:39] we're already doing them or ... if their process or
[1:56:43] and we just need oversight or a confirmation to continue
[1:56:47] to do a number of their new initiative so we
[1:56:49] have to be cognizant of the time required by staff
[1:56:53] in
[1:56:54] so if if commissioner quite you're probably at the same
[1:56:57] disadvantage but try your best ... three Mister Merrill ...
[1:57:02] my observation is that the the certainly the introduction under
[1:57:06] paragraph B. talks about community energy and emissions plant so
[1:57:11] a lot of these initiatives can be incorporated into that
[1:57:14] and those are things that we would have already been
[1:57:16] doing such however there are some other things here like
[1:57:21] electrification of the of the city fleet and what not
[1:57:24] which you know what I would have to defer to
[1:57:26] somebody or investigate further so my colleagues as what those
[1:57:29] implications would look like and how far we can go
[1:57:32] but certainly a lot of these things are are well
[1:57:35] under way and I would consider these directives to be
[1:57:38] a little more focused on some of the specific issues
[1:57:41] in a festival of council we can certainly we will
[1:57:44] certainly do our best to investigate them further
[1:57:47] thank you Mr man my last ten seconds I'd like
[1:57:50] to move an amendment that we added the next Roman
[1:57:54] numeral after I. acts because I'm not familiar with what
[1:57:57] that is is it acts
[1:58:00] X. Hey I got it right ... yesterday if I
[1:58:03] got something right I got a treat but I guess
[1:58:05] not happen today ... just that acts that ...
[1:58:10] a staff be directed to ... as strongly urge all
[1:58:17] applicants for medium density and high density to have ...
[1:58:23] the infrastructure for electric vehicle charging at each and every
[1:58:29] parking space with their applications and then leave the rest
[1:58:34] the council will take care of it
[1:58:39] so if I spoke too fast Mr Clark
[1:58:43] but your speed writer I can see
[1:58:49] K. G.
[1:58:51] well if it's there sorry I didn't see a counselor
[1:58:53] west
[1:58:55] just I would recommend it to friends
[1:58:57] put in the work change but if you want it
[1:59:00] instantly that's not where is the council
[1:59:03] which one is which one is it
[1:59:07] number 5
[1:59:10] installation of electric charging stations in public and private developers
[1:59:14] buy
[1:59:15] right I'm not offended by putting it in as a
[1:59:18] extra
[1:59:19] things fall apart
[1:59:22] hello at
[1:59:24] yeah I just think yeah because I want to be
[1:59:26] more specific to the applications for the infrastructure as opposed
[1:59:30] to the charging station at south
[1:59:33] so 10
[1:59:38] thank you
[1:59:57] and
[1:59:58] differently 5
[2:00:01] yeah it's fun friendly J.
[2:00:04] I don't want to
[2:00:07] just because of the little ones that
[2:00:57] for every parking spot
[2:01:52] okay
[2:01:54] give
[2:01:56] is pilot
[2:02:00] thank thank you Mister Maher AJ I strongly support the
[2:02:03] the motion on the floor I think it's in keeping
[2:02:05] with the the ... the added to this council's having
[2:02:08] of taking action on on issues that ... you not
[2:02:12] not just merely words and statements but to to really
[2:02:15] put in some initiatives that are they're going to help
[2:02:18] ... to solve the problems do our part to take
[2:02:22] a leadership role we want to ... make sure all
[2:02:25] our buildings use energy as efficient as possible but ...
[2:02:28] we also want to discourage others I love the idea
[2:02:31] of forcing ...
[2:02:34] world with within within the realm of what we can
[2:02:37] forcing the applicants to come forward with with ... energy
[2:02:41] saving measures with the ... like two vehicle charging stations
[2:02:45] ... the building code should be changed it's it's we
[2:02:49] should also be ... lobbying the provincial government to change
[2:02:53] the building quote it's just ridiculous to put into a
[2:02:57] high rise building that's going to be there for over
[2:02:59] a hundred years and ... not have ... not of
[2:03:04] the ability of park electric vehicles overnight it's a small
[2:03:07] cost but it's a very important change is needed ...
[2:03:11] I support that and and actually a very simple ...
[2:03:14] ... ... pleased with the staff report and with all
[2:03:17] the work that's being done right now I don't I
[2:03:19] don't think we're communicating enough to the residents of Richmond
[2:03:22] hill of all these different initiatives that are underway I
[2:03:25] was surprised to learn that that our staff actually engaged
[2:03:28] in a process where every application is rated on it's
[2:03:33] on it's a new environment mon pharmacy sustainable ... aspects
[2:03:38] they have a number of criteria they have a point
[2:03:39] system and and ... is that it's it's taken very
[2:03:43] seriously by our staff I think this motion I would
[2:03:46] think also west gives users more tools and greater ability
[2:03:51] to go even further than they're going today but we
[2:03:53] we are doing a good job today we we wanna
[2:03:55] be leaders we encourage staff to do more of I'd
[2:03:58] like to see more being done I I want to
[2:04:01] I'd like to see ... ... environmental summit held here
[2:04:04] in in in Richmond hill and there's a lot of
[2:04:07] people we could invite in I think we could be
[2:04:09] the ones who ... ... your really really bring these
[2:04:13] issues out and ... plead with the provincial and federal
[2:04:17] governments for the for them to step up their efforts
[2:04:20] ...
[2:04:21] so I I'd like to see that happen
[2:04:25] like I said a lot of these initiatives ... good
[2:04:28] good job staff ... as far as the the cost
[2:04:31] implications of this admissions plan ... you let's let's let's
[2:04:37] see what comes forward and how much money the staff
[2:04:40] requires because it's money well spent I I've talked to
[2:04:43] so many residents in Richmond hill they're concerned about this
[2:04:46] their concern for their children and if we have to
[2:04:48] allocate some budget dollars to to making a proper functioning
[2:04:52] plan than than ... it's it's very reasonable to do
[2:04:56] so will have the support of the residence ... to
[2:04:59] to go forward so as as a budget cherub I'm
[2:05:03] in favor of spending ...
[2:05:06] ... whatever it takes to to put in an energy
[2:05:09] emissions plan that's going to be effective for the city
[2:05:12] thank you
[2:05:14] thank you customers
[2:05:17] thank you Mr mayor I like the way this conversation
[2:05:20] is is is going ...
[2:05:23] it is curious I was at the ... library conference
[2:05:26] ... week or two ago and ... movie ... internet
[2:05:30] might might childhood friend Katharine Hayhoe what was speaking to
[2:05:34] the masses ... and she was speaking from a bit
[2:05:37] of her Ted talk which was the V. and I
[2:05:40] wanna make sure quarter properly the most important thing you
[2:05:43] can do to fight climate change
[2:05:46] talk about it and she spoke with one gentleman who
[2:05:49] said he had a list of people he'd spoken to
[2:05:52] about little simple things
[2:05:55] and it was ten thousand some odd people that this
[2:05:58] individual is broken too so the the the the conversation
[2:06:02] that ... that I had one day with ... I
[2:06:05] think was let's get to work I said we need
[2:06:08] to speak to we need to you need to we
[2:06:10] all need to speak to those that are already in
[2:06:13] the choir
[2:06:15] because I see although I don't go to them I
[2:06:18] see the pictures online from these different seminars and that
[2:06:20] and it's good you're all talk to each other but
[2:06:23] I don't see many of my neighbors there I don't
[2:06:25] see many of the people that we want to get
[2:06:26] the message to so
[2:06:29] keep doing are you doing ... if I have a
[2:06:32] great idea I don't have it right now on how
[2:06:34] to get outside of that community to get the other
[2:06:38] people in that's what we need to do so
[2:06:43] talk about it
[2:06:45] I would side of
[2:06:47] hours make it a dinner talk at the dining room
[2:06:52] table
[2:06:54] but the things we can practically do I like the
[2:06:57] comment that that one of the speakers made today not
[2:07:00] of tacking people's lifestyle choices
[2:07:04] but little things simple things
[2:07:07] deputy mayor Perrelli picks me up quite often coming to
[2:07:11] the office
[2:07:13] the small thing but we're saving fuel in one vehicle
[2:07:17] and I don't drive so I like it
[2:07:20] I'm saving fuel he's not but that the planet is
[2:07:23] so there's all kinds of little things you can do
[2:07:24] that doesn't seem like a lot that if we can
[2:07:26] get that message out to some of our friends and
[2:07:28] neighbors
[2:07:30] every little bit will make a difference ... I support
[2:07:33] this ... this motion in front of us ... going
[2:07:36] to staff to examine the following directions seeing what's possible
[2:07:39] what's not what we are doing what can we do
[2:07:42] ... it's a good it's a good start thank you
[2:07:45] they give us a chance
[2:07:48] thank you for much ... Mister chair and I'd like
[2:07:51] to first of all thanks all the dedication three of
[2:07:54] you and I'll just touch on very briefly ... but
[2:07:57] also particularly ... to my seat mates ... concert Wes
[2:08:02] and consular service on this motion yes ... I'm also
[2:08:07] ... remember off do cleanup partnerships with Joe comprises of
[2:08:11] ... automate is pull ... elected officials that truck cross
[2:08:16] the ... returned and in Ontario Seoul is certainly something
[2:08:20] that for inspiring to hear all of not just a
[2:08:24] call to supporting it but
[2:08:26] community talking about those what's common for action community engagement
[2:08:31] leadership our focus on leadership because in addition to leadership
[2:08:36] in the community commit look into this console for their
[2:08:39] leadership and on that front I just want to share
[2:08:43] a number people already mentioned about ... come up with
[2:08:47] the greatest innovative measures to seek funding now in addition
[2:08:52] to to stop report which is ... really mentioning about
[2:08:55] that ... our city is already ... complying with a
[2:08:59] lot of the federation campus politics on departments for climate
[2:09:03] protection program in school what they did that that day
[2:09:06] which is great ... but also if the federation cat
[2:09:10] M. as parties it also runs a menace pope green
[2:09:14] fund the actually help to support projects that actually would
[2:09:19] be using no carbon ... up building ... greet infrastructure
[2:09:24] which is some of it is because before me I
[2:09:27] looked up to as well as all try to lower
[2:09:31] greenhouse emission projects in fact to see different which midfielder
[2:09:34] Tom Richmond used to get money from the ATM avocado
[2:09:38] green medical fund now the reason I bought brought it
[2:09:41] up is that there are opportunities out there to ...
[2:09:46] for the city and the stop in applying to some
[2:09:48] as I know because federation can miss potter also operate
[2:09:52] and run just after management ... ... funding which I
[2:09:56] believe our city might have ... apply for and dispatchers
[2:10:00] on what basically is ... I believe to be true
[2:10:04] that consul west Moshe talking about the metrics related to
[2:10:09] us than ability matching up and in fact ... the
[2:10:15] recently the ... they also manage but we'd find under
[2:10:19] SCM also attribute money my regional calls may know compared
[2:10:23] to richer a consular ... they give money to your
[2:10:26] region which were part of the development designed a method
[2:10:29] for optimizing I want to make sure I say it
[2:10:32] right the environmental effects of low impact development and again
[2:10:37] green infrastructure features so that the help is that the
[2:10:42] money is there we just have to tap into it
[2:10:44] often I'm glad that ... regional concert deputy mayor ...
[2:10:49] depart talking of booting colt in fact the cleanup partnership
[2:10:53] is calling upon of which we have an estimation log
[2:10:56] on on terribly difficult but the national political which until
[2:11:00] as part of province they have a consultation on going
[2:11:03] on now receiving submission until March thirteenth so we have
[2:11:07] almost a whole month to make submissions all in all
[2:11:10] I'm in full support of this I'm also glad that
[2:11:15] the key word on the B. part is in coral
[2:11:19] not just this list is not meant to be exhaustive
[2:11:22] and I'm glad that regional ... concert properly at all
[2:11:26] that number ten to make it I guess somebody caught
[2:11:30] ten it's a perfect number so while I like that
[2:11:34] to be not only perfect now but expanding the scope
[2:11:37] of within the resources we do have and in the
[2:11:40] end ... I want to hang up also thanks not
[2:11:43] for doing it very comprehensive report and I do agree
[2:11:47] I think someone mentioned it as somebody screwed things up
[2:11:50] you see different doing it should be more ... I
[2:11:53] guess share with the members of the community because for
[2:11:56] example on page one thirty for the report police say
[2:11:59] the city now after half trial videobull energy systems are
[2:12:04] in store the facilities office city we should not how
[2:12:08] come you know that which many attribute exercising leadership it
[2:12:12] just have to let people know more about so all
[2:12:14] in all
[2:12:15] all of which you know funding is there for both
[2:12:17] the public I mention about the federation can respond as
[2:12:21] we medical fund asset management funding but also their private
[2:12:25] somebody mention pie Fundacion all there's also one this call
[2:12:29] I believe the call the ...
[2:12:32] astronomical
[2:12:35] embassy
[2:12:37] the court T. A. F. ... sorry I brought up
[2:12:40] the right wording but thank you they also provide funding
[2:12:45] engaging private funders ... and also help with her from
[2:12:48] the public so there are endless so to speak on
[2:12:52] this matter I saw my typing for support funding opportunity
[2:12:56] to stop it this is the time thank you so
[2:12:59] so much
[2:13:01] today so up here one big loving family we all
[2:13:04] love this I'm gonna say to you I am so
[2:13:06] frustrated
[2:13:08] when we moved up here we are policy people up
[2:13:11] here that could be a tangible difference on what we
[2:13:13] want to do if we really want to do it
[2:13:16] and I said it yesterday in the discussion that we
[2:13:18] had the difference between politics and policy so for those
[2:13:22] that want politics I hope you're enjoying what you're hearing
[2:13:25] because that's what I'm hearing I'm not hearing action
[2:13:29] this community right now we have people who have contaminated
[2:13:32] water in Richmond hill today
[2:13:36] we have people today who have water and sewer back
[2:13:40] flow not from their fall from everybody else here says
[2:13:42] didn't affect me so when you flush your toilet and
[2:13:45] when my neighbor's backyard basement nine inches of it
[2:13:50] it's frustrating for me that when we say we want
[2:13:53] to help our residents on issues that affect climate change
[2:13:56] of which we can make option on here for example
[2:14:01] because we were close to your position we are responsible
[2:14:06] not by choice but were mandated by the province to
[2:14:10] do municipal act
[2:14:12] in a in a planning act
[2:14:15] some people here say I'm gonna play the politics to
[2:14:17] say I don't want change you don't want change we
[2:14:20] don't want change either effectiveness will get investment or water
[2:14:23] and sewers
[2:14:25] it's frustrating we want to reduce parking standards and I've
[2:14:29] moved four motions
[2:14:31] how many members of council here enacted those motions some
[2:14:35] of the people that this council say today yeah I'm
[2:14:38] all for this this is great
[2:14:41] then they vote about actionable items to would reduce GHG
[2:14:44] emissions
[2:14:45] shame and frustrating for me sitting here knowing what I
[2:14:50] know on this council because it's so busy but giving
[2:14:53] the optics and getting hopefully some good press because that's
[2:14:57] our focus there so as it relates to this motion
[2:15:00] thank you related to this motion talks about this motion
[2:15:03] talks about options options options enhancement get back with stuff
[2:15:10] money money money money let's go back let's do it
[2:15:14] I'm saying that I look forward and I hope you
[2:15:17] pay attention folks
[2:15:20] because there will be moving motions to affect people who
[2:15:22] are affected by climate change by this counts what we
[2:15:26] can do tangibly that we can make a difference that
[2:15:29] we affect the quality of life of people here this
[2:15:33] is about that's going to each other's let's hear some
[2:15:36] more reports let's get some feedback absolutely will go through
[2:15:40] there are reports there are reports so the car so
[2:15:44] let's start with that someone to one if you will
[2:15:47] look at the York regional profile and T. A. F.
[2:15:49] that's here in front of us and January twenty twenty
[2:15:53] reflecting this ... talks about how our emissions in Richmond
[2:15:57] hill and what we're doing for example and you look
[2:16:01] at the reports to come forward
[2:16:03] what we do about it
[2:16:05] nothing
[2:16:07] so yeah we'll we'll do this I'm hoping a stockist
[2:16:10] be an exercise
[2:16:12] I'm really hoping that members of council and more importantly
[2:16:16] the public in the population as a whole that we
[2:16:19] work collaboratively beyond our sphere here to look at the
[2:16:23] major issues
[2:16:25] because I really do want to make a difference I
[2:16:28] want to see tangible results I don't want to hear
[2:16:30] a year from now in two years now three years
[2:16:32] ago I attended another seminar I engaged here we had
[2:16:36] meetings
[2:16:37] can we please start having actionable targetable measurable qualified prioritizing
[2:16:48] check check check Jennifer a tortured soul Walgreens check check
[2:16:53] enter I love the banter
[2:16:55] and just saying I love the I love it so
[2:16:58] I'm hoping that the people in the audience
[2:17:01] can I make in my notes we'll see what the
[2:17:04] record is
[2:17:06] because it's not about optics for me it's about performance
[2:17:10] it's about reaching our objectives and it's hurtful to me
[2:17:15] because I'm up generally consider a guy that wants performance
[2:17:18] and expectations and deliverables
[2:17:20] so there's two types of cysts often as people in
[2:17:23] this council's commitment of Herzl state again
[2:17:26] I see parents 2 different ways
[2:17:29] you want to have chocolate for every lunch breakfast and
[2:17:31] dinner I'll give you chocolate
[2:17:33] there are other people that give you a balanced diet
[2:17:36] it's frustrating when you have people telling you what you
[2:17:40] want to hear and hear each of you what you
[2:17:41] want to do
[2:17:43] and they're not making measurable quantifiable when they have the
[2:17:48] opportunity to do so our policy when we're making choices
[2:17:53] because of politics of what the optics are
[2:17:58] you see the reaction by some of people in council
[2:18:00] future when your own thank you
[2:18:06] all right
[2:18:08] we have this motion before us as this
[2:18:12] all those in favor
[2:18:14] a post
[2:18:16] here is synonymous with
[2:18:19] yes all right
[2:18:30] find my way through this process
[2:18:37] this would be moving to 13 months 5
[2:18:43] listed
[2:18:45] 202020 community
[2:18:49] yeah I would like to respectfully ask if we can
[2:18:51] go to the community and cultural grant program okay perfect
[2:18:55] thank you
[2:18:57] we had we had delegations prior to that
[2:19:04] so it is 135
[2:19:16] okay this is with regard to their twenty twenty community
[2:19:20] and cultural grant program that we ... had before us
[2:19:26] January twenty second and it was made a move to
[2:19:29] this meeting ... and that staff be directed to advise
[2:19:34] all potential grant recipients identify in their life that they
[2:19:39] should consider attending the meeting to answer any questions of
[2:19:43] members of council
[2:19:45] and that was moved by concert probably censor
[2:19:50] we are on the
[2:19:53] the item now
[2:19:56] the Jewish mystic occurrence no
[2:19:59] it was just so that was an amendment to my
[2:20:01] main motion
[2:20:04] US so can I bring my main motion back to
[2:20:06] the floor
[2:20:08] my main motion was that we discontinue the community grant
[2:20:12] program
[2:20:15] okay and we are forever and we ... yes we've
[2:20:17] just to be consistent with the last ten years or
[2:20:21] so that I've voted on this
[2:20:24] all right fair enough he was in the it was
[2:20:27] our motion
[2:20:28] my apologies Sir no I talked to today
[2:20:33] so the motion is back before us did you push
[2:20:35] to move it
[2:20:37] the chair right
[2:20:39] that's what I just did Sir okay I just put
[2:20:42] it back on the floor so we have something to
[2:20:43] discuss all right
[2:20:54] once there
[2:20:57] I know I certainly that's that's what we're the motion
[2:21:02] is not approved issuing up twenty twenty community and cultural
[2:21:06] grants
[2:21:09] I would ... I'll speak for me ... I I
[2:21:13] do not believe that this is something that we should
[2:21:16] do in our community we have a number of community
[2:21:19] groups here we have a number of other cultural groups
[2:21:21] here that do met many many programs on behalf of
[2:21:24] our residents and bringing us
[2:21:27] culture and bringing us up to hold it all kinds
[2:21:31] of things in the community that we are all attending
[2:21:34] we're all involved in we've all spent a lot of
[2:21:37] time and volunteer time on these it is a yes
[2:21:41] I understand that ... it is a sixty five thousand
[2:21:46] dollar allocation in the budget ... which covers ... some
[2:21:52] twenty organizations for outside spinal covers the twenty organizations being
[2:21:58] able to ... to provide
[2:22:01] as I said the community cultural whatever it may point
[2:22:06] of order Mr practice all I'm suggesting thank you for
[2:22:09] that ... this should not be
[2:22:13] stopped
[2:22:15] in order
[2:22:17] I think it should not be stopped Mister mayor we
[2:22:20] don't have a second ...
[2:22:24] a severity
[2:22:26] your second I'll second the motion
[2:22:29] is that what you're asking me for
[2:22:33] so I moved the motion if you're asking me I
[2:22:34] can't scream well there is no second or so well
[2:22:37] you're the chair you need to petition if anyone could
[2:22:40] have second or not there's no reason a second or
[2:22:43] so
[2:22:44] yeah also okay to start
[2:22:53] I've given my
[2:22:55] understanding of
[2:22:57] why this should not happen however I'm only one person
[2:23:00] here so who else is speaking to speak on this
[2:23:04] matter
[2:23:07] do it
[2:23:08] I think it was me I cannot support this motion
[2:23:10] ... I do not want to repeat ... everything I
[2:23:13] said last time I think ... the all these organizations
[2:23:18] or their valuable to our community and they're trying to
[2:23:20] you know serving ... bills that we aren't we cannot
[2:23:24] directly sort of and and and honestly I think you
[2:23:27] know if you need any changes like I said last
[2:23:29] time ... don't do it this year you know we
[2:23:32] can always go back and revise the policy but these
[2:23:34] groups they already expect that we have the grant so
[2:23:39] ... but I cannot support this ... hopefully we have
[2:23:44] co counsel support because these groups ... they need the
[2:23:48] money they need the money thank you
[2:23:52] a surprise
[2:23:54] Mister mayor I I I agree with ... councillor Lee
[2:23:58] you ... that ... the the groups need the money
[2:24:02] I agree with you Mr mayor that the groups do
[2:24:06] invaluable work
[2:24:08] the the issue that I take with with the program
[2:24:11] is that what we're doing Mr mayor is we're taking
[2:24:16] residents taxpayers money and we're choosing which not for profit
[2:24:23] which charity to give it to
[2:24:26] and
[2:24:27] most recently Mr mer ... I I did a survey
[2:24:32] ... city wide survey and that was one of the
[2:24:35] questions that I asked
[2:24:37] how do the residents of Richmond hill feel about ...
[2:24:42] for a council to decide which charitable or not for
[2:24:47] profit organizations to give their hard earned tax dollars to
[2:24:52] and the overwhelming majority more than two thirds of the
[2:24:57] people responded with they didn't approve of council giving ...
[2:25:04] that money to not for profits or for culture for
[2:25:08] for any other reason really and charitable organizations of their
[2:25:12] choosing they believe that it should be something that's done
[2:25:17] on an individual basis in each household
[2:25:21] N. for example Mr mayor
[2:25:24] the and following with the spirit of this motion it
[2:25:29] was most recent that the ... for example the Italian
[2:25:32] seniors club reached out to cast their barrels been out
[2:25:36] long time supporter of the seniors even though he's only
[2:25:40] of the sea a Tallien scenes even though he's only
[2:25:41] thirteen percent Italian ...
[2:25:45] and they needed money
[2:25:47] N. Kelso Burroughs did not go to the public purse
[2:25:51] he came to me and said ... that PMR probably
[2:25:53] what are we gonna do we we need to help
[2:25:55] these seniors and I agreed with them
[2:25:58] and we went to the
[2:26:03] in the industry and we asked for support and private
[2:26:08] entities donated five thousand dollars to the Italian seniors quote
[2:26:14] and I think that's the type of support we need
[2:26:18] to give to our cultural groups so I say this
[2:26:22] I will support this motion before us but I say
[2:26:26] to all of the groups that are here today please
[2:26:30] reach out to your members of council we have the
[2:26:34] year of the community and we can help you raise
[2:26:38] the funds that you require
[2:26:41] I just don't feel comfortable taking taxpayers dollars and directing
[2:26:46] it to organizations of my choosing thank you Mr mayor
[2:26:51] as a chance
[2:26:53] thank you very much
[2:26:55] J. getting notices up just on this topic I said
[2:27:00] it before and he said a game ... I think
[2:27:03] the timing is an issue here and ... if I
[2:27:08] get through you Mister chair all right the question not
[2:27:10] a commission on community services wherein would decide
[2:27:15] potential ... or actual autos were commanded us welcome to
[2:27:20] stations would notify all anyone were notified that ... they
[2:27:25] could apply for such grants when was the time for
[2:27:30] you Mister chaired a commission
[2:27:33] ... looks like we have somebody that comes coming down
[2:27:36] the city okay
[2:27:48] ... three Mister chair we sent notifications out starting in
[2:27:52] July of twenty nineteen of the call for applications was
[2:27:55] open the call closed on November first twenty nineteen thank
[2:28:00] you I'm certain so all the information I have been
[2:28:05] disseminated to all come into organization who might be thinking
[2:28:11] about all I have all we have this projection mine
[2:28:16] planning for the next year twenty twenty double Sasha of
[2:28:19] course right July of twenty nineteen so
[2:28:24] now fast forward
[2:28:26] 9 months later
[2:28:28] we are saying to and also they can apply for
[2:28:31] amber so people things up all over can I say
[2:28:34] should call for a process through the board would warn
[2:28:36] peers and that over four months they come up with
[2:28:40] an application and then in November and then my understanding
[2:28:44] from the people's report we have all stopped as well
[2:28:47] as engaging authors ... in the area to make the
[2:28:51] judgment I say goals although recommend ones to console to
[2:28:56] approve it in a call miss all those timelines and
[2:28:59] procedures
[2:29:01] from my end I honestly don't feel is fair if
[2:29:05] you're looking at those con a logical development timelines nine
[2:29:09] months later the groups all it has been a mistake
[2:29:13] I'm sorry ... we are not going to find it
[2:29:16] the issue of course console the majority can make that
[2:29:19] decision but I for one I I I would I
[2:29:24] believe comes from you may I mention it if we
[2:29:26] want we do thinking about that may eight ... ...
[2:29:30] ritual consta purchased mention is not the source for this
[2:29:34] kind of funding all let it be known not
[2:29:39] so we won't do anything in this July coming twenty
[2:29:43] twenty to let people know all by the way come
[2:29:46] up with some you know we could put checks for
[2:29:48] to commit to a joy to and reach our cultural
[2:29:51] life but to tell people nine months after that the
[2:29:55] city of Richmond we see interested hearing from you receiving
[2:29:59] your app
[2:30:00] cation in November and then setting up not just expectation
[2:30:04] all I would venture to surmise that some organizations listed
[2:30:08] on page ninety three ... on the on on on
[2:30:11] on the previous ... meeting January twenty second my already
[2:30:14] gone through certain things on promotion not mine too ...
[2:30:19] maybe looking back you might not want to offend any
[2:30:22] of your resources limited resources before after I got the
[2:30:25] money but but presumably that was not something that one
[2:30:29] would have thought an applicant I thought all
[2:30:33] 4 months later application
[2:30:36] there's nothing so I have given does come logical development
[2:30:40] timelines what I'm trying to illustrate everyone all right I
[2:30:44] I would be open to say for twenty twenty and
[2:30:47] beyond not to issue any more commit cultural grants but
[2:30:52] stop at this point in time in my view is
[2:30:56] totally unfair to community organizations that doing something good to
[2:31:02] ...
[2:31:04] we'll make our cities ... cultural life vibrant soul with
[2:31:09] respect I cannot support this motion thank you
[2:31:14] I'm also pointing
[2:31:18] that's nice okay fair enough but maybe
[2:31:23] okay
[2:31:25] because so much
[2:31:27] the data analyst so this plan has really changed the
[2:31:31] last fifteen years
[2:31:34] it's too bad
[2:31:35] it changed from a format of we're gonna help community
[2:31:39] members as a government for those that are helping in
[2:31:43] the community to show recognition of their efforts and to
[2:31:46] support them
[2:31:48] to a position now that has become a requirement by
[2:31:54] some to fund programs and some of the people that
[2:31:58] are coming forwards are not from or in Richmond hill
[2:32:02] or have some form of attachment the committee is doing
[2:32:04] a good job ... they got lots of choices we
[2:32:07] have a much bigger need than we have ... that
[2:32:11] are once and I'm sure that all we want to
[2:32:14] recognize all the work that our volunteer and outreach organizations
[2:32:17] do this ... some that did applies some of didn't
[2:32:20] summit will get phone some won't
[2:32:22] but
[2:32:24] the process has become politicized
[2:32:28] the ... amount of money that's given is not given
[2:32:32] unanimously across the spectrum it's given to selection groups
[2:32:37] 
[2:32:39] that's not the intent of the program
[2:32:41] the intent of the program its design is saying we're
[2:32:46] going to
[2:32:47] a service
[2:32:49] not fun assist in the engagement of what those organizations
[2:32:54] are doing to give them
[2:32:57] some support
[2:33:00] once again
[2:33:03] absolutely yeah we'll give you as much money as you
[2:33:05] want you want to are those in favor of those
[2:33:06] million dollars five million keep going
[2:33:09] no no no hold on the school skills there were
[2:33:12] times these gentleman used to be a hundred fifty dollars
[2:33:15] not long ago
[2:33:17] $50 which together
[2:33:19] $300 no it's going into thousands
[2:33:23] used to be used to be used to be a
[2:33:25] token and those different ... you don't like that because
[2:33:29] for whatever else once again our mandate here our responsibility
[2:33:34] to the people who want to live work and play
[2:33:38] and have a great community and represent and recognize
[2:33:42] so certainly one of them is a council which is
[2:33:44] really challenging because when you go to communities like Quebec
[2:33:49] and the Quebec or say we care about Quebec or
[2:33:51] Quebecers we love Quebec we love we're here to support
[2:33:54] our community and sort of finance similar communities here we
[2:33:57] have people fighting against other members it's to me started
[2:34:00] shooting when you're people saying we want to give we
[2:34:03] want to help well I don't want his help I
[2:34:05] don't like him for
[2:34:09] there are people in this community that are willing to
[2:34:11] give and help them grow and we turn away
[2:34:16] we turn away because of our attitude towards being a
[2:34:20] sharing in a caring community I don't think it's up
[2:34:23] to government the greatest respect to go the taxpayer to
[2:34:27] say I want you to pay more taxes the fight
[2:34:30] for your quality of life with every doing on fixed
[2:34:32] incomes and we arbitrarily go choose where it's going to
[2:34:36] go or not go ... I really think that we
[2:34:39] should be focusing we have real challenges here
[2:34:42] real challenges of basic goods of water sewer garbage really
[2:34:46] parks
[2:34:47] the quality of life issues we need to focus on
[2:34:49] our mandate and once the things becomes politicized rebel filler
[2:34:53] core mandate I start to say come on guys
[2:34:58] why did we change this process why is it going
[2:35:01] this way and wire the funds going so crazy and
[2:35:03] why are some people getting hurt and why are we
[2:35:06] doing better so I see it as of offered others
[2:35:08] from a library on
[2:35:10] okay we can help you manage and service
[2:35:14] many of us here raise money
[2:35:16] some of us raise money to get a picture in
[2:35:18] the paper others raise money and say here you go
[2:35:20] without fanfare
[2:35:22] because we're here to serve and help and grow our
[2:35:24] community together so I'd see you that I don't
[2:35:29] looking at the
[2:35:32] current file and where it's gone in our evolution I've
[2:35:35] only been here five years I find it interesting when
[2:35:37] I go back in history and I start talking to
[2:35:39] previous councils with the mandate where these funds were and
[2:35:41] how they evolve
[2:35:44] we deserve to serve the residents on our priorities first
[2:35:50] and our wishes second absolutely support the group's absolutely do
[2:35:55] everything I can to help but not at the expense
[2:35:58] of hurting others and not when it becomes one factor
[2:36:01] or another so I last council meeting said I would
[2:36:05] like to transition this and work with it it gets
[2:36:08] to a point where it's either or and you guys
[2:36:11] are probably witnessing a part of it you know something
[2:36:13] maybe the first time you have people here who are
[2:36:15] just
[2:36:17] agitated I said most polite way
[2:36:21] and I say it really is hard to see the
[2:36:24] negativity so because of that I will support this motion
[2:36:28] to my regret but I will give support and other
[2:36:31] means thank you
[2:36:33] all right and now a
[2:36:36] Castro
[2:36:37] you wish to speak second round
[2:36:40] Sir
[2:36:43] thank you Mr mayor
[2:36:45] I respect you know
[2:36:47] a colleague said different views on this one
[2:36:50] but ... I think ... concert chain made a very
[2:36:53] good point
[2:36:54] the
[2:36:55] which when you created this program
[2:36:58] we call for application people has they have an expectation
[2:37:02] that somehow they're going to get the grant and they
[2:37:06] continue their program to serve all residents
[2:37:10] total taxpayer money
[2:37:13] they can go to federal they can go to provincial
[2:37:15] is getting harder and harder to get provincial and federal
[2:37:18] funding so they come to us
[2:37:21] and
[2:37:24] at the end of the day it's all taxpayer money
[2:37:26] even though the vehicle to provincial grants federal grant is
[2:37:30] taxpayer money so I don't think that's the big issue
[2:37:33] here with us but I understand
[2:37:36] there's a favorite or some I don't know but because
[2:37:38] we'd set up set out the criteria
[2:37:41] and these group they all meets our criteria so that
[2:37:44] they kept the finding that the staff suggested
[2:37:48] so I don't see why we are all of a
[2:37:49] sudden you know stopping this this year as I relate
[2:37:54] re iterate you know it if you want to stop
[2:37:56] we can always discuss ... in council about what we
[2:38:01] could do with future but just putting his full stop
[2:38:04] here and telling all of groups at okay no more
[2:38:07] findings go back home
[2:38:09] sorry I can't do that
[2:38:13] okay another second rounder concert chance
[2:38:17] thank you for much ... Mister chair Mister mayor off
[2:38:21] I wasn't think of our second term a second wrong
[2:38:23] but but interesting talking about looking at the funding criteria
[2:38:29] and I look at this program by the way
[2:38:32] while holding hands together talk about communication today ... this
[2:38:36] is a picture tells a thousand things the first thing
[2:38:40] is that the criteria is benefit benefit to should Richmond
[2:38:45] hill in terms of economic impact committee responsiveness and all
[2:38:50] enhancement of Richmond hill is a match now they have
[2:38:55] to do that in addition to other things
[2:38:58] evidence of give me a partnership of law not more
[2:39:01] than five thousand dollars
[2:39:03] you look at the all the way
[2:39:06] one could top one percent meat that is sector investment
[2:39:11] many of these organizations from what I'm granted the list
[2:39:15] I'm not getting five thousand dollars ... somebody be as
[2:39:19] little as five hundred dollars now if it
[2:39:23] five hundred dollars even up to five thousand dollars would
[2:39:26] help to enhance a benefit Richmond hill enhancement of ...
[2:39:32] in may H. community responsiveness engagement economic impact not I
[2:39:38] would have hoped that when they come back with the
[2:39:41] evaluation plan and report that to demonstrate that otherwise I'm
[2:39:46] sure all expressed office hours to three citizen members were
[2:39:50] looking over all this grant application eight sorry you say
[2:39:53] you're going to do is is quick things A. B.
[2:39:55] C. you never deliver that's the end of it may
[2:39:58] be only one one year wonder so I'm going back
[2:40:02] to my my point that up surprise surprise city all
[2:40:06] of Richmond is unlocked the only minister party providing all
[2:40:11] you know they can call different names culture and community
[2:40:13] grant well I don't even want to compare city of
[2:40:16] Toronto which is F. two point seven million people total
[2:40:20] authority but looking at even smaller cities than us I'm
[2:40:24] just picking up right here C. T. often debate
[2:40:28] all your own they have community you'll find cultural funding
[2:40:33] at this mortar feels US cities and towns so again
[2:40:37] hi as I've said before I can also participate because
[2:40:41] all of just in terms of the expectation continues talking
[2:40:45] about people were given the impression nine months ago something
[2:40:49] they can plan for a different office applications almost four
[2:40:53] months later six oh sorry
[2:40:55] stock up if we're doing it again I said I'm
[2:40:58] open minded indeed discussion for budget for twenty twenty one
[2:41:03] maybe this is not the best yourself a sixty thousand
[2:41:05] dollars whatever I'm for it but at the moment the
[2:41:08] game looking at funding criteria these groups they have to
[2:41:12] demonstrate benefit
[2:41:15] to which one it was economic impact I'm sorry we've
[2:41:18] done done but you got my point so I'm not
[2:41:20] going to support this and I I look forward to
[2:41:23] the discussion and twenty twenty one when it got to
[2:41:25] the township will should we thank you and I think
[2:41:28] which we know can do better than maybe I should
[2:41:30] say that thank you
[2:41:34] shares thank you Mr mayor to ... to wrap up
[2:41:39] ...
[2:41:40] I did just want to be clear because I'm hearing
[2:41:43] from some of my colleagues and I I respectfully disagree
[2:41:47] with them ...
[2:41:50] they would have invaded the applicant's would've been told very
[2:41:54] clearly by staff that there is no money until council
[2:41:58] votes so an expectation that they had a check already
[2:42:03] in the mail if staff told them that I don't
[2:42:05] believe they would have if they thought that by accident
[2:42:09] well we all know that that's not true
[2:42:12] many people filled out applications to get a bank loan
[2:42:15] or to get a mortgage to buy a house and
[2:42:17] they know until the bank comes back with here is
[2:42:20] your approval you don't get money that's just a fact
[2:42:24] of life so to suggest
[2:42:27] that people were expecting it it's council that makes the
[2:42:31] decision so everyone knew that so I I don't believe
[2:42:35] there was an expectation and that we're leaving people in
[2:42:38] the lurch
[2:42:39] ... it is curious it's been twenty one days since
[2:42:43] I made that motion
[2:42:45] that was a bit curious M. M. is my office
[2:42:47] going to be flooded with residents I gonna get petitions
[2:42:52] is is the phones would be ringing off the hook
[2:42:54] you know monitoring social media
[2:42:58] which pretty much crickets
[2:43:02] life just kept going on it was in the local
[2:43:04] newspapers you know so it was publicized
[2:43:07] so the message for me was was strong that I
[2:43:11] was still on the right path and and I feel
[2:43:14] I feel badly for the organizations that are now having
[2:43:17] to seek alternative financing yeah I belong to other organizations
[2:43:20] that that don't come here they just speak the funding
[2:43:24] from the community they get it in a move on
[2:43:26] so I I I I know the resourcefulness the ingenuity
[2:43:30] of our community that people steer their ship somewhere else
[2:43:35] in the continue one ...
[2:43:38] so I'd say Mr mayor thank you
[2:43:40] all right
[2:43:42] yes okay before the vote
[2:43:45] quotable yes yeah
[2:43:53] I'm so sorry no I'm sorry so my
[2:43:57] for calling the vote on it's telling
[2:44:03] she was not a delicate
[2:44:05] 15 minutes
[2:44:08] the
[2:44:09] that's right I just don't understand
[2:44:13] the decision
[2:44:17] okay that's fine no there with the delegation we have
[2:44:20] signed up for and then tore you speak at the
[2:44:22] beginning so to speak okay
[2:44:27] that's fine that's all yeah okay please come forward
[2:44:33] 05
[2:44:36] D. A. why say something is not on the agenda
[2:44:41] okay we finance
[2:44:44] hi this
[2:44:46] okay members accounts so we're in favor of you speaking
[2:44:49] yeah now we're not gonna open up many many people
[2:44:54] last year we haven't
[2:44:59] there is no
[2:45:01] that's work
[2:45:05] well there were no questions
[2:45:08] I just want to speak in support of the cultural
[2:45:11] grant I represent course your person heading into our fourth
[2:45:15] season and we have presented three to four concerts a
[2:45:18] year we work with the symphony ... we have worked
[2:45:21] with the Historical Society we have been connecting with other
[2:45:24] groups we are based in Richmond hill ... we don't
[2:45:27] run rely solely on the ... on cultural granted it
[2:45:30] has been very helpful we have a professional director ...
[2:45:33] we're trying to provide ... and promote the culture of
[2:45:36] ... through music in ... in Richmond hill so ...
[2:45:41] I really feel I think history has proven that ...
[2:45:44] societies that kind of turned it back on culture ...
[2:45:47] live to regret it so and we have tried to
[2:45:50] reach out to others in the community ... we have
[2:45:53] had some support but to produce the quality of the
[2:45:57] product we need money and ... yeah and we have
[2:46:01] a symphony here represented we have other groups that are
[2:46:04] represented and ... it's been proven that music is ...
[2:46:08] inspirational it's healthy it's it helps people in a variety
[2:46:12] of levels motional physical ... it's very valuable and ...
[2:46:18] Chris it's a topic dear to my heart I am
[2:46:20] a retired music teacher and I live in Richmond hill
[2:46:23] for many years so I really would hate to see
[2:46:26] this grant ... disappear so and if anyone else like
[2:46:30] to speak to that please tell
[2:46:33] thank you for your views spoke of stood up at
[2:46:36] the very beginning so aggressiveness fairness
[2:46:41] all right to call her thank you to Mister mayor
[2:46:45] voting on the motion of cancer barrels cancer chan no
[2:46:51] cancer early you
[2:46:53] cancer Verreaux's mayor pero
[2:46:57] no
[2:46:58] regional local culture to Paula yes
[2:47:01] reach a local councillor pearly yes councillor Munch yes
[2:47:10] that motion carries only
[2:47:14] okay
[2:47:22] we have 2 more items
[2:47:25] if we do
[2:47:35] 1370
[2:47:43] the ticket right
[2:47:47] all
[2:47:48] we should get close to him okay should we got
[2:47:54] trucks
[2:47:55] all
[2:47:59] okay
[2:48:00] global
[2:48:03] I'm gonna finish this
[2:48:07] the
[2:48:09] the street name
[2:48:14] yeah okay
[2:48:17] sure enough thirteen seven the ... private street naming consular
[2:48:21] plumbers want
[2:48:23] those are coming
[2:48:26] yes
[2:48:29] thank you Mister Maher
[2:48:32] V. E. day victory day date of may
[2:48:37] it'll be 75 years
[2:48:39] since the guns fell silent
[2:48:43] and the world was changed forever
[2:48:47] we celebrate the sacrifices we mourn the losses of those
[2:48:54] that have gone before us
[2:48:56] and I want to thank staff for taking the words
[2:49:01] the council gave them a while ago in working with
[2:49:04] the legion to find members of our community
[2:49:08] to put on street names
[2:49:10] so that we will not forget so I'm happy to
[2:49:13] move the motion for this private street naming which yet
[2:49:16] again puts veterans names on streets in Richmond hill with
[2:49:21] a popping
[2:49:23] so the people don't forget thank you Mr mayor
[2:49:25] all right very well said
[2:49:30] we have a number second there his brother comments on
[2:49:35] this site
[2:49:37] all those in favor of toasted Calrissian animacy
[2:49:44] all right
[2:49:47] it's just okay I just wanted to see where we
[2:49:49] are so we have the the budget
[2:49:52] it's a deal with although I think that's going to
[2:49:54] be fairly sex partner yes we will yeah I was
[2:50:00] still with the budget and then we'll move to the
[2:50:02] next item and it's been a good camera with this
[2:50:05] camera
[2:50:06] there's the concession refuse to
[2:50:10] so we've got a lot of work yeah yeah right
[2:50:14] okay what
[2:50:17] we talked about we will
[2:50:20] but
[2:50:23] okay the budget but a budget so it's still with
[2:50:27] the budget to do with it I don't like that
[2:50:29] is there any issues with the button
[2:50:32] turn the turn to
[2:50:35] yeah syncing up thirteen three strategist in there just proposed
[2:50:39] to move the staff recommendations that we the the budget
[2:50:42] has forwarded to budge from budget committee we were all
[2:50:46] there will will hold nothing's changed it's been ... ...
[2:50:51] since the change of been a corporate into these final
[2:50:54] figures and amounts and I just happen to move that
[2:50:57] a congratulations all those involved again ... very ... a
[2:51:02] very positive going for going forward look for Richmond hill
[2:51:06] always that's responsible and looking at our long term viability
[2:51:12] second the
[2:51:15] the man happy to second the motion
[2:51:17] okay
[2:51:20] sure well we are we just doing the revised recommendations
[2:51:24] from this to Texas ... momentum that was the first
[2:51:32] okay
[2:51:34] because I would like a separated please
[2:51:39] I would like a separated out
[2:51:42] okay and then asking for a recorded vote
[2:51:47] all right let's get this
[2:51:54] back to
[2:51:59] okay thirteen twelve and it was the memo the ...
[2:52:02] that we received one seventy one of one seventy five
[2:52:07] the revised recommendations and I'm I'm sorry the recommendation number
[2:52:11] that you wish so I went a step further Hey
[2:52:16] for Citrix for yeah
[2:52:18] yeah a one to be separated out from the rest
[2:52:21] okay and recorded votes for both please
[2:52:25] 15 comments
[2:52:28] they want to skip the full
[2:52:32] the 5
[2:52:34] okay so we've got
[2:52:38] well it's it's a one it's the one that we
[2:52:41] got the memo we
[2:52:48] well received has any comment I have
[2:52:52] I have it here
[2:52:53] there
[2:52:55] there you go
[2:52:57] so referring to yes the A. one regarding the firefighters
[2:53:02] I want that separated out not a A. one
[2:53:07] okay
[2:53:10] Mr Clark with this other
[2:53:13] comments that could do it
[2:53:16] gradually stir
[2:53:18] but
[2:53:20] through Mister mayor voting on ... so I'm going to
[2:53:23] pull up that one and they will vote on all
[2:53:24] the rest of closes out my understanding yes so ...
[2:53:28] voting on
[2:53:29] some because a one culture silhouettes no
[2:53:35] 0
[2:53:37] cancer Leo
[2:53:39] reach a local councillor Paula yes cancer Munch yes cancer
[2:53:43] Verreaux's cancer chan no
[2:53:47] region local cancer proudly yes cancer west
[2:53:54] so because A. one carries only voting on the remainder
[2:53:58] of the motion cancer cell events yes reach a local
[2:54:02] councillor Paula yes cancer Leo
[2:54:07] cancer Verreaux's regional cancer probably yes cancer Munch
[2:54:13] cancer chan yes cancer west
[2:54:16] Miro yes
[2:54:19] the balance of the motion carries unanimously in the entire
[2:54:22] motion is carried
[2:54:24] thank you good very good answers and gradually thanks to
[2:54:27] a treasure finance team
[2:54:30] okay we are going to take a break for a
[2:54:32] while
[2:54:34] of all
[2:54:39] okay 11
[2:54:43] all 25
[2:54:44] additionally back in one second one
[2:54:49] so
[3:33:24] back
[3:33:25] yeah
[3:33:26] so we do have a lot of
[3:33:29] sensitive
[3:33:31] I have this right what
[3:33:37] would you wish to
[3:33:41] well of
[3:33:43] this is regarding the
[3:33:46] we've already started
[3:33:50] words to I'm gonna talk for just more to just
[3:33:53] because the way our councils
[3:33:55] the word word word to specifically and some members of
[3:33:59] council knew that on January the eleventh
[3:34:03] we had a massive
[3:34:05] event because on me on January tenth we each received
[3:34:08] an email from Elektra telling us that the major event
[3:34:11] ... for this water's coming in
[3:34:13] the sewers backed up in York region which meant all
[3:34:17] of our sewer that feeds into York region was back
[3:34:19] flowed in
[3:34:20] so those homeowners who the current provincial building code requires
[3:34:25] new housing to have back flow valves anybody who lives
[3:34:30] in an older unit
[3:34:32] likely does not have a back flow valve and if
[3:34:34] they were at a low point
[3:34:37] the sewer from the Richmond hill city went into those
[3:34:43] people's homes for
[3:34:45] and what's funny is you could have a semi detached
[3:34:48] house and house one would get it and hopes to
[3:34:52] didn't
[3:34:53] right next to each other
[3:34:55] I've been contacted by people throughout Richmond hill when I
[3:35:00] met no frills were real female people they're coming around
[3:35:03] Richmond hill it's really remarkable
[3:35:06] I've since learned that residents have outraged and I've gone
[3:35:09] to the newspaper and the trauma star and I'm expecting
[3:35:12] an article I got an email from couple news outlets
[3:35:16] so what my motion is today's to say and what
[3:35:18] we agreed with staff I've had private meetings and I
[3:35:22] respect what different word counts and have their meetings so
[3:35:25] when they have their meetings I don't interchange I mean
[3:35:27] there's still a spirit I'm gonna do what I do
[3:35:29] my work explain it to you so I engage with
[3:35:32] stakeholders from the garbage residents businesses staff
[3:35:38] leadership and and the you know white blue collar
[3:35:44] and what we've agreed is that we're going to continue
[3:35:46] to research to find out how many people really affected
[3:35:49] try to get a framework of thought number two what
[3:35:51] we agreed to with the help of of Elmar another's
[3:35:55] and mayor who gave the idea
[3:35:58] saying that we should try to make sure that the
[3:36:00] garbage people when they're driving up and down the street
[3:36:03] that they actually will pick up the garbage that's left
[3:36:06] over from the remnants of that
[3:36:09] just so we're clear here another thing I know is
[3:36:12] that our
[3:36:14] depending on which insurance company you're with you're gonna get
[3:36:16] a different result so some insurance companies say that contamination
[3:36:20] just wipe it off with a cloth I want to
[3:36:23] try your fine
[3:36:25] there are other other insurance companies that say
[3:36:28] other insurance companies so if you have a washer and
[3:36:31] dryer fewer fridge in the basement just unplug it assuming
[3:36:35] the electrical wasn't hit and once the letter freon said
[3:36:38] anything else it put it back in your good and
[3:36:40] when they start the dryer the furnace ... it emits
[3:36:44] heat or anything else sometimes those people are fellow feeling
[3:36:47] you're smelling a residue and the insurance people are local
[3:36:51] TV an expectation from a resident
[3:36:55] yeah ... but if I'm a resident they say when
[3:36:57] I flush the toilet I expected to go out of
[3:36:59] my house they don't have an expectation of in the
[3:37:02] middle of the five o'clock on a Saturday and all
[3:37:05] the sudden be parted and flooded with waste
[3:37:12] so their expectations will the city must be responsible this
[3:37:15] is not a city of Richmond hill issue
[3:37:18] per se it is but it isn't this case was
[3:37:21] the region was overwhelmed through a event that took place
[3:37:25] and our capacity couldn't handle it and it it enacted
[3:37:30] some people so what I'm asking is in the motion
[3:37:33] is number to where we're starting we're getting information out
[3:37:35] there we're gonna communicated to communicate with residents ... I've
[3:37:39] heard from a number of residents across Richmond hill
[3:37:43] and I'm saying that when they have once we learned
[3:37:47] of these
[3:37:48] situation those households should have their garbage picked up
[3:37:53] so I'd like to say for the stress motion today
[3:37:56] the only thing is to say when we know ...
[3:38:00] that we have a reasonable compromise that this is from
[3:38:04] an extraneous event you see coaches and and you know
[3:38:08] ... dishwashers new see Bellamy in a cabin a tree
[3:38:13] and carpets outside
[3:38:17] then would like that the picked up because I really
[3:38:19] don't want to be sitting on the street for another
[3:38:21] month or somebody else I don't wanna be a dumping
[3:38:23] ground for others sore asking if we could ask Miller
[3:38:26] and stuff to try to accommodate that by giving either
[3:38:30] these garbage tags to select the people so does become
[3:38:33] a free for all for garbage and ...
[3:38:37] you know if they won't have a contact in contact
[3:38:38] me or contact their member of council
[3:38:43] and then with further research to be done to see
[3:38:45] what next steps we as council can do to help
[3:38:48] the people of Richmond
[3:38:51] correct correct it's just
[3:38:55] with
[3:38:56] first thing is stuff the judge of conflict or is
[3:38:59] he going to use to call into question waste waste
[3:39:03] from people who have been impacted by the January eleventh
[3:39:10] flood
[3:39:17] and that ... if residents are impacted they can they
[3:39:21] should be contacting the member of council
[3:39:25] and that's it
[3:39:28] why did we get
[3:39:35] you certainly
[3:39:38] okay perfection is
[3:39:41] the status
[3:39:43] this happened
[3:39:45] right the
[3:39:47] hello
[3:39:49] 13
[3:39:51] okay
[3:39:53] it seems to be a long time but it took
[3:39:55] a long time for things other than the fact
[3:40:03] we aware of that either all of the region we
[3:40:11] let me just if I may three Miss America from
[3:40:13] ... from operations are on the road perspective and appreciate
[3:40:17] councilman should cancer munches comments with ... speaking with staff
[3:40:21] on the serve on the ground issues and we're definitely
[3:40:24] looking at supporting and I understand there's a meeting with
[3:40:27] with a couple of staff in the some survey work
[3:40:29] to happen and I know with with with our water
[3:40:31] operations which operations guys they're just went away for some
[3:40:35] feedback and see what things we can do so there's
[3:40:37] some
[3:40:38] article things that we were happy to assist with wherever
[3:40:41] we can without creating the president essentially ... that's the
[3:40:44] idea ... but they're also legal aspects or ... you
[3:40:48] know liability aspects which I think maybe ... twenty would
[3:40:51] be pro better speak to with regards to the comments
[3:40:54] are getting from residents claims are told to get claims
[3:40:57] them too right that's another aspect of it on the
[3:41:00] way side I I I do understand that ... Miller
[3:41:03] will pick up any material the cabinet with material and
[3:41:07] this is one I'm not so sure was construction material
[3:41:10] it's all it's all the carpeting and household stuff yes
[3:41:14] so that should be an issue because obviously with the
[3:41:16] construction material ... the region one except that the estimate
[3:41:19] your recovery say and that creates a whole other challenge
[3:41:22] ... but if that's something that council must pursue we
[3:41:25] can also
[3:41:26] yes so but definitely we get whatever we can do
[3:41:30] as far as operationally to to support the community if
[3:41:32] they're still people in need of you know what this
[3:41:35] collection or or some support and we can do what
[3:41:38] we can with regards to our our current policies I
[3:41:41] guess the best way to describe it is that fair
[3:41:43] okay first
[3:41:46] we contacted Miller
[3:41:49] this week
[3:41:52] in order
[3:41:54] this week he said toggle between
[3:42:00] we'll
[3:42:02] people will even look after that for Houston Miller has
[3:42:05] been really really good I just don't want to burden
[3:42:07] I want to make an expectation across which my wife
[3:42:10] for anybody throw as much garbage as they want to
[3:42:12] factor into this is really just designed for this particular
[3:42:15] area
[3:42:16] the positive thoughts
[3:42:20] as a friend
[3:42:23] our
[3:42:25] okay Bill Clinton permanent
[3:42:29] yeah we've got claims where ... Valerie open and risk
[3:42:33] managements got letters out to the community
[3:42:36] I've seen I've seen at least for the
[3:42:38] yes
[3:42:44] L. three Mister mayor there are claims and claims are
[3:42:47] being processed and I don't have anything else that
[3:42:52] what's what's the difference
[3:42:55] I have to do anything
[3:42:58] we'll help you
[3:43:00] what you do and how you doing it's great can't
[3:43:03] do it right
[3:43:05] his track it back to whoever
[3:43:10] with the
[3:43:16] we actually have this
[3:43:20] okay just just with what we're trying to do is
[3:43:23] make sure everybody's working on something that's so big your
[3:43:27] training
[3:43:29] also
[3:43:31] we're all such
[3:43:33] some say it again memory
[3:43:36] ask questions sure go ahead my next day cancer probably
[3:43:40] at his
[3:43:42] hi I just want to second the motion okay fair
[3:43:45] enough that's good
[3:43:47] thank you
[3:43:48] okay I I'm not quite clear on on what we're
[3:43:52] doing here ... seconds ask questions just make sure I'm
[3:43:56] clear so we're essentially this motion is that we're going
[3:44:00] to be asking staff to determine how to get rid
[3:44:05] of any material from flooded residences that haven't already done
[3:44:09] so I I only know of one person in my
[3:44:12] ward that has had a problem it wasn't because of
[3:44:15] a back up it was probably because of another issue
[3:44:18] that was private but ... their their stuff is long
[3:44:22] since gone in a dumpster because the insurance company would
[3:44:25] pay for that so are we getting the sense that
[3:44:28] there are people out there that are not having that
[3:44:32] cost covered by their insurance companies and that is what
[3:44:36] the reason the need that were responding no I just
[3:44:38] wanna be clear I try to find I have not
[3:44:39] heard this ... so I need to know understand this
[3:44:43] before I can vote so as to you Mister mayor
[3:44:46] commissioner or to legal or to anybody I I don't
[3:44:49] really know
[3:44:51] Hey Mr mayor I I don't know the extent of
[3:44:53] the on street issue Sir I mean we've gone through
[3:44:58] two collection cycles now right so it may be vastly
[3:45:02] cleaned up ... maybe maybe cancer much maybe more where
[3:45:06] what's happening within his work but I'm I'm not here
[3:45:08] I'm not getting I haven't one phone call on this
[3:45:09] matter so so to me it's it's really sort of
[3:45:13] business as usual with regards to
[3:45:15] okay so how long will it take to get a
[3:45:17] report back from staff because I mean clearly if somebody's
[3:45:21] got a pile of rotting garbage for the lot since
[3:45:23] July that or sorry January the eleventh ... and it
[3:45:28] takes a couple more weeks and our help isn't going
[3:45:30] to be helpful
[3:45:33] someone has been done already well that's why I'm asking
[3:45:36] I'm asking what the residual need that we're actually talking
[3:45:39] about and I really don't have enough information at this
[3:45:42] point to help to help me to make the decision
[3:45:44] I understand what counts so much said but ... but
[3:45:47] I'm not getting the same date data back to me
[3:45:50] but that's fine I mean I'm just not aware of
[3:45:54] the issue the issue to the degree that the movers
[3:45:57] so if you can give me any insight on that
[3:46:01] yes certainly certainly yeah so everybody is called me I've
[3:46:04] asked questions when did it happen when you realize what
[3:46:07] you do who's your insurance company ... what has been
[3:46:10] the reaction where you at now the process who contacted
[3:46:14] have you felt any claims as many feedback have you
[3:46:16] talked your claims adjuster yeah yeah yeah it's your question
[3:46:20] is if you have specific sewer
[3:46:24] backup health insurance
[3:46:27] no limit
[3:46:28] they'll come from what most residents did as they contacted
[3:46:31] their insurance company the time it happens soon as they
[3:46:34] realized it
[3:46:35] the if they were clean up themselves ... there they
[3:46:39] then had a flood remediation team come usually within four
[3:46:42] hours of when they call the flood remediation team cut
[3:46:45] the drywall that's not the question inevitably finish let me
[3:46:48] finish ... but but it's not the question I'm asking
[3:46:50] about is you asked me if there was covered and
[3:46:52] I'm giving you an example and get to it that
[3:46:54] be great
[3:46:55] go ahead you don't have to interrupt
[3:46:58] okay so even the stuff came up when the stuff
[3:47:01] when the when the flood remediation people came then they
[3:47:04] cost fifteen thousand dollars on a Saturday and Sunday and
[3:47:09] the pumping the contaminants out of the house for four
[3:47:12] days the claims adjuster would come on Monday and say
[3:47:15] here's a fifteen thousand dollar Mr resident missed residences hold
[3:47:19] on I just have a fifteen thousand dollar flood remediation
[3:47:21] bill they say you get twenty five thousand dollars that's
[3:47:25] it and you'll have to repair all of your everything
[3:47:27] in the basement all your electrical and all your drywall
[3:47:30] and all your lighting and all your appliances and all
[3:47:33] the roads that you're responsible in some of the residents
[3:47:35] are saying we don't have thirty to fifty thousand dollars
[3:47:39] to do that so the answer is what they've done
[3:47:42] is they've been reached out to others including some in
[3:47:44] Richmond hill said are you guys gonna ensure for the
[3:47:47] stuff that came out of the sewer in my house
[3:47:50] that's correct okay so that doesn't answer the question but
[3:47:53] thank you the question I was asking is I I
[3:47:55] I guess I'm looking for is some more detail on
[3:47:58] the extent of this problem I've had one before but
[3:48:01] I think this motion is meant okay but that's right
[3:48:03] and that's fine I have the right with the floor
[3:48:05] at the moment to ask the question if there's some
[3:48:07] insight that staff can give me so I better equipped
[3:48:10] it to make a determination when the time comes on
[3:48:13] this motion so ... is it possible to get an
[3:48:16] idea of the you know the extent of this issue
[3:48:21] given that it was on January eleventh I'm just not
[3:48:24] sure how big a problem we're talking about here
[3:48:30] shares of certain humans to mer ... so I'm I
[3:48:34] have made aware of any anomalies in the waste collection
[3:48:37] tonnages or that we had an override of you know
[3:48:41] request for vehicles and in and more runs to me
[3:48:43] typically when there's a crisis of some nature truck collection
[3:48:47] can be delayed which may result in cost in the
[3:48:49] region saying keep the Murph open if there's all kinds
[3:48:51] of things that can trip up like give me an
[3:48:53] indication of something really different is happening in the system
[3:48:56] that didn't happen on the eleventh or the weeks preceding
[3:48:59] the eleventh so I can ask staff to provide a
[3:49:03] brief report S. okay was there any impact that we
[3:49:05] saw across the city my smite my assumption right now
[3:49:09] is that it's a minimal impact is clearly an area
[3:49:12] within cancer munches war that was impacted by some regional
[3:49:15] capacity
[3:49:17] right now it says here the answer here please
[3:49:21] and and from from ... any other cancers I haven't
[3:49:24] heard any concerns and in each other wards as to
[3:49:26] as to flooding ... nor have I had any calls
[3:49:29] or direct communication from operations or the community as to
[3:49:33] any concerns so so I don't think it's a in
[3:49:35] in a month a month has gone by now so
[3:49:37] if there was additional material it's probably long gone but
[3:49:41] again if there's still some pockets of concern you know
[3:49:44] we'll do we can to okay Levi at the community
[3:49:46] one more question then so ... and as we I
[3:49:50] didn't get a clear answer during this discussion up to
[3:49:53] this point Miller does not pick up large items and
[3:49:58] in like coaches and someone is that right
[3:50:01] is that correct
[3:50:04] through mis read every that's correct in the Clayton collection
[3:50:07] contracts are very specific musical household waste has a very
[3:50:10] specific definition coaches and construction material or gently into that
[3:50:14] are excluded from that definition so can you can you
[3:50:17] surmise then ... if we are able to accommodate the
[3:50:21] collection of waste impacted residents
[3:50:26] I've impacted residents sorry ... do we have the infrastructure
[3:50:30] is in within our contract to actually do that because
[3:50:34] if they're not picking up that type of material at
[3:50:37] the moment there what are the chances of them being
[3:50:39] able to pick it up
[3:50:41] after the case certainly SO three you and I apologize
[3:50:44] these questions are a bit ... I mean the great
[3:50:48] questions are just not prepared with all the information generally
[3:50:51] I can speak to a couple of items construction material
[3:50:54] generally is refused because I know it's not accepted the
[3:50:57] Marfan that's a contaminant right so that one is off
[3:51:00] the table white goods we do have a program that
[3:51:02] will collect white goods in washing machines in those kind
[3:51:04] of voices so those can be arranged we picked up
[3:51:07] if the rest of it is called garbage that shouldn't
[3:51:10] be an issue and there may be some gray area
[3:51:12] in there but I think for all in all with
[3:51:14] what's happened we can probably address most of the concerns
[3:51:19] ... it's just my concern is if people start taking
[3:51:21] apart their basements and bring kinds of studs and drywall
[3:51:25] that's problematic for sure so all right so what I'm
[3:51:29] what I'm hearing that you're hearing is that when you
[3:51:32] get this back you're gonna come back as quickly as
[3:51:34] possible ... with a report as to how we may
[3:51:37] be able to do
[3:51:39] before you actually implement it
[3:51:42] if I made three Miss America all right when I
[3:51:45] read this I don't see an actual action to counsel
[3:51:47] other than a direction to do the best we can
[3:51:50] in the community that's kinda what I'm hearing if that's
[3:51:53] if that's the message
[3:51:55] the report
[3:51:57] as reported by
[3:52:00] okay any other comments on this okay thank you Mr
[3:52:04] mess to you too commissioner
[3:52:08] if if this is done
[3:52:11] it would date it would this be contained within Miller's
[3:52:14] contract obligations to us or is there going to be
[3:52:18] an extra cost to the municipality
[3:52:22] three missed my my my hope and and this is
[3:52:25] it it's a question of tonnage collected right so we
[3:52:28] we paid by the time by by the volume that
[3:52:31] you think it's just deposited the region so that maybe
[3:52:34] the marginal increase or tonnage for that month or for
[3:52:37] the week or two might be marginal again this is
[3:52:39] not a widespread quantity that I see ... I think
[3:52:43] I think in this case and and I've seen this
[3:52:45] happen in my career with managing waste contracts when we
[3:52:48] have an anomaly anomalous event that creates a bit of
[3:52:51] tension in the community it's just really good customer service
[3:52:54] to provide a little extra service for that one or
[3:52:56] two collection peered just to give everyone a sense that
[3:52:59] you know what we we we're here to make sure
[3:53:00] we can do the best we can so to me
[3:53:02] this would be considered part of a normal business ...
[3:53:06] the ice storm was another event where we mean and
[3:53:08] made exemplary efforts to try to kind of minimize impact
[3:53:11] the community so
[3:53:13] now a bigger question might be with climate change and
[3:53:16] you know what the patterns is this can become a
[3:53:18] regular thing that maybe a bigger question to think about
[3:53:20] but you know at the current rate of the events
[3:53:23] it's not unusual for us to provide that service thank
[3:53:26] you very much commission the only other comment I want
[3:53:29] to make is that ... perhaps also and and I'm
[3:53:33] I'm not sure if a city managers already involved in
[3:53:36] this but perhaps risk management chose to be involved in
[3:53:40] this because I know in my south Richfield area when
[3:53:43] we've had problems with with plotting to you too M.
[3:53:46] residences that are on near the creek and with the
[3:53:50] climate change and you know five hundred years storms that
[3:53:53] are no longer five hundred year storms ... that is
[3:53:56] being dealt with by risk management so it it just
[3:53:59] it might be a good idea just to the ace
[3:54:01] as well with that because they there are impacts thank
[3:54:04] you very much
[3:54:06] okay cops have said
[3:54:09] they're out there investigating a person so I don't know
[3:54:12] that there's an answer specifically and that's where I don't
[3:54:15] know that we need to report back
[3:54:18] media leave before they do anything because Miller is actually
[3:54:21] out there doing it all right so and
[3:54:25] yeah I know the venom amazing pretty good
[3:54:29] Sir go ahead
[3:54:31] Mister I just wanted to provide some clarity at Macalester
[3:54:34] much approached me with this idea it one of the
[3:54:39] things that needs the commissioner needs to be cognizant of
[3:54:43] is that a lot of this is just maybe give
[3:54:45] them some extra bag a garbage tags so that they
[3:54:48] can throw out stuff as they find issues with things
[3:54:52] in the basement that were contaminated sites offices could go
[3:54:55] on two or three months if they're one of the
[3:54:58] houses that are identified given that garbage tag for a
[3:55:01] couple of blocks and let's get on with it that's
[3:55:03] what it's all about so let's can we please call
[3:55:05] the vote
[3:55:08] not a chance I'm sorry what does okay yup yup
[3:55:12] all up yeah I I actual plot a councilman to
[3:55:16] moving it forward to help his constituents up maybe your
[3:55:20] response to conserve wesa agree we maybe that's on so
[3:55:24] I just want to be after to create for you
[3:55:25] Mister chair the commission because they're what ways
[3:55:30] I mean how expensive or restrictive all that could be
[3:55:35] I mean ... so ... so perhaps if you're coming
[3:55:39] back the report issues you can I would like to
[3:55:41] see you know if there's any kind of parameters set
[3:55:45] this is what we meant we've been doing something
[3:55:48] just a comment thank you the explanation thanks
[3:55:51] okay all those in favor of posts that carries unanimously
[3:55:57] all right we now are going to
[3:56:02] sorry
[3:56:03] hi ... but yes I'm sorry the file ... sixty
[3:56:06] one through sixty seven
[3:56:12] 67 I mean
[3:56:14] Adam movers second effort by the US
[3:56:18] this
[3:56:19] if you wish cancer west of some favorite polls carried
[3:56:24] thank you both for their
[3:56:28] ... we need to move into closed session and what
[3:56:30] I would like to do ... when we do that
[3:56:33] is go directly to ...
[3:56:37] the
[3:56:39] parkland for
[3:56:41] and then we'll deal with yours
[3:56:43] so
[3:56:45] moving into there we go
[3:56:48] resolution to move into closed session
[3:56:52] and we're heading out we're on a run
[3:56:58] S.
[3:57:00] visitor receive advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege
[3:57:05] including communications necessary for that purpose and litigation and or
[3:57:08] potential litigation including matters before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality
[3:57:15] or the local board with respect to payment of park
[3:57:19] land cash in lieu section two three nine two half
[3:57:22] empty miss black two thousand and one and the second
[3:57:27] item that will be there's personal matter with identifiable individual
[3:57:30] pertaining to staff member again once this plaque and a
[3:57:34] time sensitive matter so with that kind of a motion
[3:57:37] for
[3:57:39] okay we have conflict
[3:57:41] and second castle burgers thank you
[3:57:46] all those in favor okay we are now going to
[3:57:52] close session
[3:57:54] okay all righty persons gobbled up
[6:04:16] thanks for
[6:04:17] 230 yesterday
[6:04:19] please hold no problem
[6:04:22] you know one of
[6:04:25] okay
[6:04:29] Mr America yeah
[6:04:31] okay we are now going into ... reconvene the open
[6:04:35] session we have a mover and a second ... all
[6:04:37] those in favor of
[6:04:39] grooving to the open session
[6:04:42] post character in your possession ... there is no recommendations
[6:04:46] arising from the closed session meeting
[6:04:50] ... that we was just finished so there's nothing to
[6:04:53] report out so therefore we have to by law to
[6:04:55] confirm the proceedings of counsel at this meeting the second
[6:05:00] ... for that please
[6:05:02] we were second
[6:05:04] Hey kids so all of a sudden rally
[6:05:09] all those in favor coach Terry Rozier
[6:05:14] with a single second here all of their clothes