1 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,000 So, I think we're live. We're just um 2 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:25,039 it's a hustle and bustle in downtown 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,720 West Arash. Uh lots of construction. So, 4 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:30,000 we have at least one counselor who's 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,040 stuck in traffic. Uh so, there are three 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,680 of us here, but um yeah, we've got 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,120 somebody on their way. So, um we have 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,520 quorum though, so we can start and get 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,239 some of the formalities out. So, welcome 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,480 everyone to this special meeting of 11 00:00:42,239 --> 00:00:48,559 council. Uh, we have a certain number of 12 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:53,440 items on the agenda. Um, and uh, we'll 13 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:55,039 begin with um, the CAO doing the roll 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,120 call of counselors. 15 00:00:55,039 --> 00:01:01,120 » Sure. Thank you, Madam Chair. District 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,239 one, councelor Sean Samson, 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,239 » Present. 18 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:06,640 » District two, warden Lois Landry, 19 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:10,560 » Present. District three, councelor Brian 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Nar Shaw is on route. Y 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,920 » Uh district four, councelor Amanda 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Mrevette. We don't have her online 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,520 either, do we? We have nobody online. 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,479 And district five, Deputy Warden and 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Brent Samson 26 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:23,920 » Present. 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 » She may be in the same the same line of 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,240 » She may be. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:30,560 » Yeah. Okay. So, uh while we're here, uh 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,200 and we do have a quorum so we can uh 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,680 dispense with some of these items. Um, 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:39,040 the agenda is in front of you. It was 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:42,560 circulated uh late last week, I believe. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:45,119 So, are there any errors or omissions or 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,479 additions to the agenda? And if not, I 36 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:49,479 would entertain a motion to approve. 37 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:57,200 Moved by councelor Samson to approve the 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:00,640 agenda as circulated. Oh, seconded by 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,719 Deputy Worth Samson. Thank you. Um any 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,799 discussion on that motion? Hearing none. 41 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:05,119 All those in favor signify by saying I. 42 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:08,800 I. 43 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:12,560 » I. Those opposed. Motion carries. So 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:16,239 there are three of us here. Um 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:20,000 I know we have uh some items that are 46 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:23,360 grant applications. Uh so we have four. 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:27,120 We have a sponsorship request and um 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:30,480 then we have a request for a letter from 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:33,599 Dundy Hills Vacation Village and uh 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Richmond Arena report followup. So, uh 51 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:40,560 I'm happy to begin with the Acadia Bill 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:45,519 Community Center if you can go ahead and 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:49,519 plug along with that. So, um in the 54 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:51,200 I didn't even turn that on at all today. 55 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:53,760 And there. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:58,120 » So in the 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,120 in the package you 58 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:06,720 we're good. Okay. So um council is just 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,480 messaging that he will be walking in the 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:13,280 door in about 2 minutes. So um while 61 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:16,720 we're but we have a forum now. So, um, 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:19,040 we can direct folks to if you're using 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:24,000 the online package at home, uh, starting 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:25,760 on page two, um, is the community grant. 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,920 We had some technical difficulties and 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,640 people in traffic, so we're just getting 67 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:33,040 going. So, we're at the Acadiaville 68 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,440 Community Center society has a grant 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:41,040 application for the tier 2 community 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:44,400 grant funds uh, requesting $7,500. 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,159 um they are requesting um to provide an 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,720 accessible method of transporting 73 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:50,239 individuals with mobility challenges 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,760 between the different floors. So I'm 75 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:54,879 sure everybody's been to the Kadia Bill 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,879 Hall. Um and so the project total is 77 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:57,879 $37,242.35. 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,920 They're requesting uh the maximum 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,879 amount. So, I'll throw it out for 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:08,959 discussion and possibly a motion and 81 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:11,360 would entertain $1,000 from district two 82 00:04:08,959 --> 00:04:16,120 funds uh as part of that discussion if 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,120 folks are open to that. 84 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:26,400 So we have a further uh 85 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:30,000 further discuss 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:35,360 I would thousand from this district 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:39,360 three I would go 500 from district one 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,680 and whatever we feel we can afford to 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 okay 90 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,520 » Take out of our district fund. So that 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,000 would leave uh so do you want to make 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,800 the motion for the total amount plus 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,880 from with a th00and from district 2 500 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,240 from district 1 and then we can have 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,720 some discussion on that motion. 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,120 » Yes. 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:01,199 » Okay. So the motion is uh to provide the 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,440 $7500 99 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:05,600 6,000 from district funds,000 from 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 district 2 and 500 from district 1. Can 101 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,320 I have a second? 102 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,840 » 6,000 from general 103 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,600 » 6,000 from the Yeah. 104 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,240 » Yeah. Can I have a second? 105 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,160 » I'll second that. 106 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,470 » Okay. So, there's a motion on the floor. 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,549 Any discussion on the motion? 108 00:05:16,470 --> 00:05:19,549 [Music] 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,960 » Is there anybody who has any comments, 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,400 concerns on that matter? 111 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,160 » No, I think it's a good project. I'm 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,360 just trying to figure out We're all 113 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,160 trying to figure out how to make a map 114 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,199 for it tonight. 115 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,280 » Yeah. Um I don't know if there's any 116 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:43,360 appetite for any more in the district 117 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:45,360 funds, but Um I Yeah, just worry. I got 118 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,280 a couple of things I'll I'll I'll chew 119 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:51,199 into mind later on. 120 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,440 » Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Okay. So, 121 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:55,840 um yeah, we're going to have to mind the 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:59,039 numbers here. Um 123 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:01,039 so, that is 124 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:03,520 Okay. So, there's a motion on the floor. 125 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:03,840 All those in favor signify by saying I. 126 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,800 » I. 127 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,199 » I. 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,720 I. 129 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:11,440 » Those opposed. 130 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,720 » Motion carries. Okay, moving on. Uh, and 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,600 I think these are actually out of 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:19,120 sequence in your package. So, um, the 133 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:22,960 next, uh, item on our agenda 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:25,520 is the Jolly Club. So, that's a little 135 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,039 further down. The sponsorship is in the 136 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,440 middle of this in your package, but on 137 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:31,280 our we'll just follow the agenda. So, if 138 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,440 you scroll down, you'll see that there 139 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:37,199 is a request from the Jolly Club. 140 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:40,160 They're looking for $6,726. 141 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:44,560 Uh that is the total amount of the quote 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:49,240 as well. Um so I'll throw that out to 143 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,240 anybody who'd like to pursue that. 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,919 » I'm still on this. Yeah. Um I like to 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,479 put a thousand from the district funds 146 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:02,400 on this, but I'm not sure if we really 147 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:06,240 have anywhere to go in the regional 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,759 funds based on what's coming up. 149 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,759 So, 150 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:12,400 for folks who are following along, we're 151 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:15,599 actually on page 58 of our package. And 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,039 so, what I'm hearing uh Deputy Warden 153 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:22,080 say is that if someone or he himself 154 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:24,880 would like to make a motion, there is uh 155 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,520 an ask. I I know that we have had 156 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:31,840 conversations about when groups ask for 157 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:35,759 the full amount. Um so, we have $1,000 158 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:38,160 from district five. um kind of 159 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,840 committed. Uh don't if anybody else 160 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,120 wants to speak to district funds or make 161 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:45,120 a motion about um a grand total that we 162 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,880 can debate, but I'd entertain a motion 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,160 for some discussion. 164 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,160 » Did you have something? 165 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,759 » I'll make that motion. $1,000 from 166 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,240 district five funds. 167 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:56,400 » Okay. So, the motion 168 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,080 the motion on the floor is for $1,000 169 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,919 from district five funds. Um do we have 170 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,879 a seconder? 171 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:06,000 » I'll second it. 172 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:09,440 » Okay. Seconded by uh councelor Marchon. 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,599 Any discussion on that motion? 174 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,599 » Go ahead. 175 00:08:15,599 --> 00:08:18,160 » We may have lost them again. Just go 176 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:21,199 ahead. 177 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:24,639 » Oh, you're there. Y 178 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:26,639 » Um I just asking a question, Deputy 179 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,160 Warden. What's your thoughts on it? Do 180 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:30,000 you want to support it at half out of 181 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,840 general or full the rest of a general? 182 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,360 It's up to you. Um I'll support either 183 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,959 way. 184 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,880 I mean, if the circumstances were 185 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:38,719 different, but I I just feel the next 186 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,279 one is more important than this one at 187 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:41,440 the end of the day. 188 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:44,159 » So, you want to go 50%. 189 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,360 » No, like I I I wouldn't take anything 190 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,880 original. 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,279 » Oh, you just want to leave it at the 192 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,880 thousand. 193 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:52,000 » Yeah, because I I don't like I think 194 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,000 it's it's just not not as crucial as the 195 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 other things on the list and I wish it 196 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 » And it is 100% of the ask, right? 197 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,040 » Yeah, exactly. So, it wouldn't have been 198 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,519 something I would have considered to 199 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,720 begin with for 100%. But, you know, it 200 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:04,480 would have been nice to see it get to 201 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,040 50, but we just don't. 202 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,720 » Yeah. Don't have it here. 203 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,279 » So, we have a motion and we have a 204 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,040 seconder. And I'll just remind folks, 205 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:15,040 I'm going to ask you individually to 206 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,959 keep track of your own district funds, 207 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:22,800 but at this point, we have $4,349.50 208 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:25,279 in the regional funds, right? So, um 209 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,839 after that, Yep. Do my math right. 210 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:29,920 » Yep. Okay. So, uh there's a motion on 211 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:32,000 the floor for $1,000 out of district 5 212 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,399 funds. Uh any other discussion on that 213 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,320 motion? Hearing none. All those in favor 214 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:39,519 signify by saying I. 215 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:44,160 » Those opposed. Motion carries. The next 216 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:47,600 um agenda item is the request from the 217 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Grand River Presbyterian Church. That is 218 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:55,839 a request on tier 2 and it is for 219 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:58,480 $7,500. they have a roof that is leaking 220 00:09:55,839 --> 00:10:00,720 uh and they have an ask that is uh 221 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,880 included in your package. So again, I 222 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:07,600 would uh entertain 223 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,360 discussion or motion 85 224 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,560 » Page 85 of your package if you're 225 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,560 following up. Um, 226 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,720 » It cycled and then went out. They all 227 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,720 lit up and then heard quite 228 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,680 » No, it's struggling. 229 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,200 » Okay, 230 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,880 » We're all done. 231 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,279 » Okay, carry on. do our best. 232 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,680 » Yeah. 233 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:38,800 » Um like 234 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,720 » Considering they're saying this is 235 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,640 leaking a bit, it's I don't think I've 236 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:46,959 seen this group come since we've been on 237 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:48,959 council. Um I like 238 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:51,200 I'd like to see if we could make a 239 00:10:48,959 --> 00:10:54,079 motion to 4,000 of the regional and 240 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,800 3,000 of the district funds, district 5 241 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:59,440 funds, which should give it bring it up 242 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,440 to 7,000 anyway and make a motion on 243 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,000 that if anyone's open to second. 244 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,519 » Okay. Okay. So, the motion on the floor 245 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:14,320 is um 3,000 from district. There's it. 246 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:16,320 So, 3,000 from district five and 4,000 247 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,320 from district, sorry, from the regional 248 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 fund. 249 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:24,240 Uh do we have a second? Second. 250 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,880 » Seconded by councelor Merchon. Any 251 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,640 discussion on that motion? 252 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,040 » Yes. 253 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,360 » Oh, yeah. Right. Okay. So, um, so that 254 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:37,160 will effectively deplete our regional 255 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,160 our regional funds $349.50. 256 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:41,200 » Yeah. 257 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,200 » Okay. Um, and I'm just I just want to 258 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,240 sober second thought kind of discussion 259 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,440 and do we anticipate any like are we 260 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,040 forgetting about something that's going 261 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,640 to come up later in the year is what I'm 262 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,680 wondering. 263 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:56,640 » I Right. But I'm just like has staff had 264 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:59,440 any conversations about that kind of 265 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,800 thing that we might not be aware of? I I 266 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,519 know of something in my own district 267 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,959 that I have funds in my district funds 268 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:10,240 to to provide for. Yeah. Uh and and you 269 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:12,639 know, this does beg the question um when 270 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,160 we revisit the advantages and 271 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:16,399 disadvantages of some of the changes 272 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:20,560 we've made to this policy. By going up 273 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:22,560 to 7,500, we've likely decreased the 274 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:24,160 number of projects that we can support. 275 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,839 Right. But 276 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,440 » They've all been important projects. 277 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:29,680 It's not like we've given money that I 278 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,839 regret giving out. Um, and at this 279 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:34,240 point, one thing I am I do feel a little 280 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:36,800 bit better about is that anybody who's 281 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,160 planning to build this building season 282 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,560 has clearly come to us. 283 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,200 » Yeah. 284 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:42,720 » So, it may be that we have to advise 285 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,440 folks that look, you may want to 286 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,279 consider waiting until March and and 287 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,200 looking at the next fiscal year, but 288 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:52,639 certainly this gets us through the the 289 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,800 the building season. 290 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,839 And I and 291 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,440 sorry 292 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:59,120 » Maybe that's working I saw the light. 293 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Yeah. And to be clear I can't think of 294 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,560 anything either. I just wondered if 295 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,800 » There was something maybe on the radar 296 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:06,880 staff or 297 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,720 » We're hearing but again come November 298 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,440 people will start thinking about holiday 299 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,760 things or things. 300 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,120 » Yeah. 301 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 » But nothing at this time. 302 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,120 » Okay. That's great. And I do think this 303 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,040 is an urgent one as well. You know the 304 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,480 leaky roof is not a good not a good 305 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,320 thing. 306 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,600 » Okay. Okay. So, we have a motion uh on 307 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:29,040 the floor to give uh 7,000 in total, 308 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,200 4,000 from regional fund, and 3,000 from 309 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,600 district 5. Any other discussion on 310 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,440 that? Hearing none, all those in favor 311 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,839 signify by saying I. I. 312 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:44,560 » Those opposed? Motion carries. The um 313 00:13:39,839 --> 00:13:49,360 next item on the agenda is a um village 314 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:51,279 on the canal um grant application for 315 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,200 tier three waterfront development grant 316 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:55,440 funds and I 317 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,519 » Yeah. So warden, I'm going to declare a 318 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,959 conflict on that one right off the bat. 319 00:13:57,519 --> 00:13:59,760 » Yeah, we see your name on the on the 320 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:01,279 list of directors. 321 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,639 » Something I've been involved with. So 322 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:02,880 I'll just step out of the room and you 323 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:08,800 can 324 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:12,000 » Good. So um this one is um one of our 325 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:16,160 tier three which is waterfront 326 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,160 development. This one is um a little 327 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,800 different. Uh so we've just talked about 328 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:25,920 how we've spent all our money but there 329 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:28,320 is a budget line from CCBF. 330 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:31,360 » Yep. CCDF waterfront development fund. 331 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,040 So uh and and I think we've recirculated 332 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,120 that. Just a reminder, I think the 333 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,639 original um report that came out from 334 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,040 the director of finance said that we 335 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:42,160 hadn't spent any of those dollars. We 336 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,680 actually did commit uh 10,000. Yep. So, 337 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,760 but we still have a good chunk of money 338 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:49,760 in there. So, um this one is for 339 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,560 waterfront development grant tier three. 340 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Maximum request can only be 50% of the 341 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,720 project. It is um from the village on 342 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:01,680 the canal uh association and it's 343 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,240 regarding the splash pad. So, I'll throw 344 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,160 it out for discussion if anybody has 345 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,240 anything. You can find that package 346 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:13,240 starts on page 101 in your uh online 347 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,240 package. 348 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,160 » So, are we saying that the total 349 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,240 » Do you want to press your button there, 350 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,480 counselor? Go ahead. 351 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,560 » So, looking is the total of the project 352 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,800 480,000. Is that what we see there? 353 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:33,199 » So, the project Yes. So, the provincial 354 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:36,000 government contributed um 360,000. 355 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:38,800 Thank you. Uh 360,000. There's been 356 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,760 community fundraising all along. Uh and 357 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:45,279 so the specifics of this one are are 358 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:48,079 laid out there. I I I do want to just 359 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:51,519 sort of say that I did some math on this 360 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:54,399 and they don't appear to have included 361 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:56,639 HST when they calculated the 40,000. 362 00:15:54,399 --> 00:16:00,800 they they I actually when I did the math 363 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:01,440 it's actually more than 40,000 um 364 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,440 » Commission 365 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,160 » For yeah because all of the things that 366 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,320 are there uh uh when you actually go to 367 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:13,680 the actual quotes it includes plus HST 368 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:16,959 so but um and and there is some you know 369 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:20,720 we have been very clear that we expect 370 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:23,120 projects not to begin until 371 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,880 after approval has been granted and 372 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,720 there are kids playing on the playground 373 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,000 on the splash pad. We've seen video. I I 374 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,320 went and saw them. Um this project is 375 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,079 outlined as it's been described to us in 376 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:37,920 phases. So, Deputy Warden. 377 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:40,560 » Yeah. So, I'll make the motion that we 378 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,560 support it to the tune of the 20,000. Um 379 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,560 and it's partially because I' just like 380 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,320 to officially get discussion started 381 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,759 here if somebody wants to second that. 382 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:53,360 » Would would I be able to say 383 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:55,440 » That? Just is your motion 20,000? When 384 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,360 we have done these in the past, we've 385 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,720 always written them contingent. 386 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Actually, there's a kind of a draft 387 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,440 here. Um, 388 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,480 village on the canal um approved village 389 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:08,160 on the canal association grant 390 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,400 application for the tier three 391 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,280 waterfront development to the amount of 392 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,919 $20,000 to be allocated from the CCBF 393 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,679 subject to assessment by staff as to the 394 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:19,120 project's eligibility. 395 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:21,600 » Is that is that what we've done with 396 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:25,480 water? some of the questions. 397 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,480 » Okay. And if that's how we 398 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:29,280 » Yeah, it just Yeah, we wrote out the 399 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:31,360 motion as similar to the others. So 400 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,880 that's the motion. Uh and I'll read it 401 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:35,840 again just because it it to be 402 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,000 consistent with the others. So um moved 403 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,000 by Deputy Warden Samson. I'm looking for 404 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,840 a seconder. that council approved the 405 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,600 village on the Canal Association grant 406 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,440 application for the tier 3 waterfront 407 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,799 development grant fund in the amount of 408 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,880 $20,000 to be allocated from the Canada 409 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:53,280 Community Building Fund subject to 410 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,120 assessment by staff as to the project's 411 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,760 eligibility. 412 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,760 So that's the motion. 413 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,679 » I'll second that motion 414 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,400 » Seconded by Deputy S. So sorry by 415 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:13,280 councelor Do we have any discussion on 416 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:16,080 that? Council member, 417 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,760 » Um they speak of getting a lease after 418 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,600 the fact. Would we I don't know if we 419 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,320 care that they own or lease this 420 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,480 property or not. Uh the letter of 421 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,760 support is not even signed and the 422 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,080 project's already started as you 423 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,080 mentioned. Those are issues I have. Uh 424 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000 the group in my community was they were 425 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,960 told very clear if you start anything 426 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,720 you're not getting it. So this seems to 427 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,400 be something different. I know it's been 428 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,480 creative with the phase one, two, and 429 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:44,559 three, but the project is, as you 430 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,400 stated, is being used. Uh, so I'm kind 431 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:49,760 of confused as to what this 432 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:52,160 commissioning and extra work is for. 433 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:56,000 » Yeah, no question. And that may be 434 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:59,760 something that the CCB folks say, hold 435 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,400 on. I I I I've taken pictures of the 436 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:05,200 sorry I've taken pictures uh because I 437 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,720 was there with family and um I see that 438 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,840 they're looking for armorstone and I 439 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,160 believe there's actually armorstone 440 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,480 already there. So it may very well be 441 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,240 that some of the phase three things have 442 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,679 started but maybe they're going to do a 443 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:21,679 different thing. I on this matter it is 444 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:24,320 subject to CCBF eligibility. So I I'm 445 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:27,039 I'm happy to defer to that but but I I 446 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,760 respect your wishes. to consider it a 447 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,640 different way. 448 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,080 » Yeah. Considering what happened 449 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,080 » Considering what happened with the group 450 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,080 in my community, I I couldn't support 451 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,080 it. 452 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,600 » Okay. So, uh we have a motion on the 453 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:48,360 floor and a seconder. Is there any other 454 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,360 discussion? Deputy Warden. 455 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,000 » Yeah, just to confirm and I don't want 456 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:55,600 not to put anyone on the spot, but I 457 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,360 guess um maybe I am. Um yeah, is that 458 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,760 criteria about not starting though? We 459 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:01,360 generally the same thing with the like I 460 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,880 know this the waterfront development has 461 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,880 been kind of treated differently anyway. 462 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,600 So is that like I I'm just trying to 463 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 think if look up the uh the policy on 464 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,559 it. Yeah, 465 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,440 » The policy lists all three of them under 466 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:17,679 » As the same thing umbrella. Okay. 467 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,559 » But if they 468 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:23,200 » But they've explained how they are 469 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:27,360 justifying that as the NFAS three. So if 470 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:31,000 that gets through staff through CCBF. 471 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:31,000 » Yeah. And I I 472 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,440 » I guess at the end of the day, it's not 473 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:38,159 up to us to police it necessarily in the 474 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,080 sense that if if if staff looks over 475 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:42,000 this and feels that no, this is this 476 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,000 meets the requirements, then then I'm 477 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,440 fine with it. we're we're making a 478 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,840 decision assuming that it meets the 479 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,600 requirements because there are lots of 480 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,799 times that there might be projects we 481 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,480 don't know if they started or not 482 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:56,520 because we may not have physically seen 483 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,520 something you know. Yeah. 484 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:04,400 » Yeah. I I I will say we did there was a 485 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:07,919 previous version of this policy and 486 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,320 through sort of conversations we came up 487 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:12,960 with some things that maybe we wanted to 488 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,799 change in our revision in our 489 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,039 discussions about changing the policy. I 490 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,880 don't think we ever once said it's okay 491 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,480 with us if they've already started right 492 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,600 and I mean I know that I told the hall 493 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,520 and disuse you cannot buy a single 494 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,280 thing. We've had conversation with 495 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,120 people saying, "Look, I know your 496 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,039 quote's going to expire, but you cannot 497 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:34,000 buy that." You know, so we've been 498 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:36,480 pretty clear about that and and I'm not 499 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,520 because this is going to CCBF. I'm happy 500 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,679 to to have them, you know, decide if 501 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,960 they if that meets their criteria 502 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:47,760 because it is it is phases whether that 503 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,120 is a if that's okay to them. If not, it 504 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,080 has to come, you know, some there'll be 505 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,080 some other request to us. 506 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,400 Does whether or not it started though, 507 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,480 does that matter to as far as CCBF goes? 508 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,559 Like in the sense that I don't know that 509 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,480 they're going to consider that, right? 510 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:05,679 » Sure. 511 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,120 » Okay. 512 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:08,400 » We'll wait and see what they come back 513 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:11,400 with. 514 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,400 » Okay. 515 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,120 » So, I was just going to say a lot of the 516 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:17,120 federal and provincial funds you cannot 517 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:20,000 start. You cannot put a shovel in the 518 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:23,360 ground. I can't speak for certain that 519 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,360 this one is the case. 520 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,960 And I'm just going to their 521 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:34,000 » I got right here 522 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,159 and it has tomit one of their 523 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,960 whether this falls in the recreation 524 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:41,120 because this is earthworks 525 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,720 around a recreational site. So hopefully 526 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,559 that 527 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 ticks enough of the boxes to fit that 528 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:48,799 criteria. Right. So 529 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320 » Yeah. And and I'm also I'm just reading 530 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,320 from what they wrote. In keeping with 531 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,400 Richmond County's grant policy, we are 532 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,320 applying for $20,000 from the Richmond 533 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,200 County from Richmond County to support 534 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,760 50% of the final phase which is set to 535 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,200 begin in July. So, you know, I'm hoping 536 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,039 that we can get them the information 537 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,840 that CCBF says yay or nay. And then you 538 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,440 know I I mean we we did inquire like we 539 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,679 did support for example the playground 540 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:17,520 in Arashhat not through the construction 541 00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:20,240 but we did you know uh provide $1,000 542 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,760 for uh grand opening that kind of thing 543 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:26,480 like there may be something else 544 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,360 » Did we 545 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,440 » Oh many years ago. Yeah in the initial 546 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,159 design phase. Y 547 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,640 » Yeah before anything started. Yeah. 548 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:37,640 » Yeah. Okay. 549 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,360 » Yeah. 550 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,320 » So, 551 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:46,159 » Yeah, I'm fine with it if 552 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,200 if it meets the criteria basically at 553 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:49,200 the end of the day because it's not up 554 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,679 to me to police whether or not this is 555 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,120 exactly what started or not. If it it's 556 00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:55,520 I think it's like anything else though. 557 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:57,600 If if we had you know it's something in 558 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,520 our own district that they had started 559 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,919 and staff says, "Hey, listen doesn't 560 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,919 meet the criteria." Well, it is what it 561 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:05,760 is. You know, that that's what's set 562 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:07,440 out. So, I'm fine with making this 563 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,960 motion assuming it's met the criteria. 564 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,360 And if it comes back to us that staff 565 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,279 determines that it hasn't, well, then, 566 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:15,200 you know, it's not up to me to argue it. 567 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:17,200 Yeah. 568 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,159 » Okay. So, there's a motion on the floor. 569 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Is there any other discussion? 570 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,039 Hearing none. All those in favor signify 571 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,799 by saying I. 572 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,240 » I. Those opposed. 573 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:29,120 » Councelor Marshon. And can we have that 574 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,679 recorded? And just uh reminder that we 575 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:33,840 have quorum, but it's only four. So we 576 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:40,400 can let councelor Mumbreet know that she 577 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:42,480 can come on back in. Uh and so then it 578 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440 are you coming back? Are you you're not 579 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,760 pirate association? 580 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,520 » Nope. 581 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,400 » Yeah. Okay, great. So we'll welcome 582 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,279 counselor. Uh you're just a really good 583 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,240 pirate. 584 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,679 » That's right. 585 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:58,240 » Yep. So um this is a little earlier in 586 00:24:53,679 --> 00:25:00,159 your package. So if you go to um 587 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,880 uh second item in your package, you will 588 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:07,360 see that there is a sponsorship request 589 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:10,799 from the the pirate uh St. Peter's 590 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:14,480 Pirate Association. Um, so I'll throw 591 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:16,240 this out to So can you can I put the CEO 592 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,799 on the spot a little bit to just give us 593 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,799 an explanation about how this money sits 594 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,799 separate 595 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,559 » And and how much we have in this 596 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,600 » Sure. Uh, within the approved budget for 597 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:31,440 this year, uh, we have $7,500 put aside 598 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,360 for sponsorships. 599 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,960 uh sponsorships are outside the grant 600 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:40,080 structure and we're working on getting 601 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,919 this in September's or October's bylaw 602 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,240 and policy meeting to put some framework 603 00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:46,000 around this but right now we don't have 604 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,679 a framework. So, it's in front of 605 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,679 council to determine at what level a you 606 00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:53,679 want these sponsorships coming to you 607 00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:55,760 and which ones would be fine to be dealt 608 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:58,320 with by administration. And for this one 609 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,960 in particular, where does council feel 610 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:04,559 comfortable uh sponsoring this event for 611 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:08,880 this year? and and as I recall we have 612 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:12,720 sponsored the superport days this year 613 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,320 and but I believe the um the one in 614 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,240 » Okay Britain partnership 615 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,840 » But was the oh the partnership 616 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,279 » The summit this fall 617 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,679 » But that's that was in the last fiscal 618 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,880 year so this fiscal year it's just 619 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:25,279 superport does that sound right 620 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,480 » Super and Cape Britain summit the the 621 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,039 summit that'll be this fall 622 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:33,039 » Oh coming up this fall yes okay and the 623 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:33,039 the one um 624 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,279 Yes, maybe. 625 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,679 » Yes. 626 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,799 » Y 627 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:42,799 » And then there's the U 628 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,279 Aman conference because it's in Cape 629 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,799 Breton this year. The municipalities. 630 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:51,320 » So we have we have enough money that 631 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:51,320 we're not in a panic at this point. 632 00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:57,520 » Superport has its own 633 00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:00,240 » Funding contribution. 634 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,279 » Yes. under the grants is K Prattton 635 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:07,440 Partnership Summit. Uh I want to say 636 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:10,559 it's 1500 or 2500 if you recall. Shand 637 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,720 it's 15 or 25. A man's is 2500. We're 638 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:17,600 25. Inesse is 25. Victoria is 25. CBRM 639 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,559 is like 9,000 on their own. 640 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,000 » Um 641 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,919 » 6,000 already. 642 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,880 » No, no. I think he was talking about the 643 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:26,080 other municipalities. 644 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,240 » 5,000 for us. Uh that's gone between 645 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Cape Breton Summit and the Aman's 646 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,159 conference 647 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,240 » Plus 1,000 takes you up to six. So you 648 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:36,480 got 1500 left. 649 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,960 » Okay. So we have $1,500 in our 650 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:44,159 sponsorship. Yeah. Minimum case. Okay. 651 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:47,039 So um we So for those folks following 652 00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:49,600 along on page 35, there is captain's 653 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:51,840 chest level of sponsorship at 3,000. 654 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,960 First mate is a,000. Quartermaster is 655 00:27:51,840 --> 00:28:00,320 500. uh Buccaneer backer is 25 250 to 656 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,000 500 and donor under $250. 657 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,760 » Madam Chair, if I may on your grant 658 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,440 booklet now, the sponsorships are 659 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760 listed. There is only one there. Now 660 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,120 it's 500 for the Aadian Festival of 661 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,799 Betty Degra. 662 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,279 » It's right at the very bottom all by 663 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:11,840 itself. 664 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,679 » Oh yes. 665 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,799 » The most recent one 666 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,640 » On on this one. 667 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,600 » Uh it be on the most recent one that was 668 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,320 like later today. 669 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:25,360 » Yes. 670 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,720 So then we would be at 671 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,120 » 5,500. 672 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,559 » Yeah. 673 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,320 » 5,500 in total. 674 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:32,320 » The absolute most at this point. So you 675 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,360 have 2,000 left to play. 676 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,039 » Okay. So I'm looking for a motion that 677 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,240 would capture whether we are interested 678 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,120 in uh sponsorship and if so how much. 679 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,360 » Deputy 680 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360 » I'm sorry. 681 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 » Don't believe we did. We look for 682 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,559 previous and we didn't find one from 683 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,159 pirates or 684 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:53,279 » Councelor. 685 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:54,720 » Yeah, thank you Warden. Um so I would uh 686 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:58,080 yeah I don't believe they were 687 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,159 recipients in previous years. Um recent 688 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,360 years anyways. Um so I would make a 689 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:04,880 motion to support the request for uh 690 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,120 sponsorship for the St. Peters Pirate 691 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,520 Days for $500 692 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:14,080 from our 693 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:16,960 » Sponsorship budget line. So 694 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,760 » I'll second that. 695 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,360 » Any other discussion on that motion? 696 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880 » Hearing none. All those in favor signify 697 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,159 by saying I. 698 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:29,200 » Those opposed. Motion carries. 699 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:31,360 Okay. And and I um we probably should 700 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,880 have the on this we can keep track of 701 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,799 the promised amounts too, not just the 702 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:39,440 amounts that have gone out. Yeah. Okay. 703 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:42,080 So, um, that takes us to a, uh, request 704 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,440 for a letter or affidavit from Camp 705 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Samson, Dundy Hills Vacation Village. 706 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,640 So, um, we 707 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,799 » Page 124. 708 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:57,120 » 124. Thank you. Okay. So, um, as you can 709 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:58,399 see, if you've Sorry, go ahead. Oh, 710 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,679 » Yeah. I'd just like to declare a 711 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:03,480 conflict on this one. We've done work 712 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:03,480 there recently, so 713 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Good. Okay. So, uh, Deputy Warden Samson 714 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:18,000 has left the uh the room and um so you 715 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,559 can probably read through uh and and 716 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,960 read through the the number of emails 717 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:26,799 that uh that go ahead here. He is 718 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:32,880 requesting a um a letter which would 719 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:36,720 form an affidavit um saying that uh they 720 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:39,679 have met the criteria for zoning. So uh 721 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,000 item six if you're looking on page 125 722 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:43,760 uh registration requirements affidavit 723 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,840 from the municipality consenting to the 724 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,559 project and confirming that the project 725 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,240 complied with zoning bylaws and building 726 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,880 regulations at the time it was 727 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:56,399 constructed. And so we had confirmation 728 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,399 that um on page 126, the municipality 729 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:01,039 can give a letter to support phases 1 730 00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:03,600 and three of the Bearland condominiums 731 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:06,159 as a grandfathered campground. And then 732 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,320 further, it speaks uh item number four 733 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:11,360 on page 127, a letter of support in 734 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,000 principle from staff for an expansion to 735 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,640 the condominium phases 4 to 7 subject to 736 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,559 amendments by the bylaw can be provided. 737 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,159 There's a lot in there about things he 738 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:24,320 doesn't need any letters about and what 739 00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:26,559 what uh but the the situation here is 740 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,399 that he he got a building permit and 741 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,240 actually started to build before zoning 742 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:32,480 bylaws went in and so we just had to 743 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,840 calculate figure out exactly what date 744 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360 shovels went in the ground, what date 745 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,799 the building what the what the building 746 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:41,279 permits at the time um the the bylaws 747 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:46,679 were at the time. So uh we're looking 748 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:46,679 for a motion. Should we re run this now? 749 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,039 » Um, 750 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,080 » Sure. So, I think we would I think we 751 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640 need I think one motion. 752 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,600 » One motion. 753 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,960 » It's one motion. We we'd be looking for 754 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:08,000 um council to authorize the warden to 755 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:12,559 write the uh letter um of support for 756 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,880 phases one to three and a support in 757 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,279 principle phrases 4 to 7 something to 758 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,080 that effect. 759 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,679 » I'll make that motion. 760 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,679 » Okay. Seconded by uh so moved by 761 00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:23,679 councelor Mumbette and seconded by 762 00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:25,360 councelor Samson. So motion and 763 00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:28,519 seconder. Do you have some discussion on 764 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,519 that motion? 765 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,679 Okay. Uh, one of the emails, hard to 766 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,840 tell what the date is because it says 767 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:38,480 from Tro Troy on July 15th and from Cam 768 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,080 on July on June the 5th. But it seems to 769 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,000 be John Bane that wrote that. Uh the 770 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,480 third last paragraph it says there's a 771 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,440 there is however a possibility that you 772 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:55,039 have some prejune 5 2024 approval for 773 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,360 phases 4 to 7 in which case that area 774 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,039 would also be grandfathered similar to 775 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,519 one and three 776 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:06,080 » If he can 777 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:08,480 draw that submitted prior to the 778 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,200 » Yeah but it's being grandfathered after 779 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,240 the fact of the zoning coming in which I 780 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,559 don't have an issue with uh I don't have 781 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,519 an issue with that 782 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:21,279 but is that the case for everyone 783 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,399 » Cuz he didn't have a permit for this 4 784 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:26,000 to7 before that he I think his initial 785 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:28,559 plan way back was something different 786 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,440 and I'm supporting you know giving the 787 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:33,679 affidavit I just find in reading these 788 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,840 emails you're grandfathering something 789 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:38,159 there's a possibility you did this oh 790 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,000 this zone allows this that zone allows 791 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:41,600 that but the zone that you are in 792 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,159 doesn't allow what you want to do, but 793 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,760 we'll grandfather that in. It's just all 794 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:48,760 confusing reading the three different 795 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,760 emails 796 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,320 permit, development plan, whatever he 797 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,240 needed prior to the date, and I'm losing 798 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,039 my notes here. 799 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,720 » June 5th. So, the zoning bylaw came into 800 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:08,800 effect June 5th of 2024. anything before 801 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:11,919 that he can he can build do whatever 802 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:14,560 based on the the the grandfathered 803 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:16,720 bylaws of the day what or or lack 804 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,480 thereof anything that he 805 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,879 » Then there would be no question 806 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,440 » Right so that's what he's asking for 807 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:24,639 » The grandfather something if he got 808 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,119 permit before 809 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:30,320 » June the 5th of 2024 810 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:33,119 all this discussion of of the RG zone or 811 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,040 the commercial zone is not relevant so 812 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,399 Why was there even a waste of time of a 813 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,919 discussion about those things? 814 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:39,200 » Probably to make him aware that things 815 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:40,480 have changed now. 816 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,839 » But it doesn't matter. 817 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,359 » And he's just saying these are the 818 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:45,520 things we need to make sure that they 819 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:47,040 were submitted prior prior to the date 820 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560 of them changing. That's all. 821 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,720 » But he's grandfathering them. 822 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,960 » Yeah. But but anything that he wants to 823 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:55,040 start now, I think the idea is they want 824 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,640 to be very clear. anything you want to 825 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,280 start now is subject to these rules as 826 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,680 so if he's saying you know next year I 827 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,200 might like to do XY Z just for the sake 828 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:10,200 of clarity you are now 829 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200 » Required 830 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,800 » That's only for 1 to three 831 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,040 » The motion is 4 to 7 as well we giving a 832 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:23,079 letter 833 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,079 » That's all they were asking for 834 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:30,240 Okay, good. 835 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,920 » Number four on page 127, a letter of 836 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,720 support in principle, 837 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920 » Right, 838 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,040 » Subject to amendments, 839 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,000 » But I'm not looking for that. 840 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,920 » He's not looking for that. 841 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,200 » No, we're only looking for amendment 842 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400 three at this point in time. 843 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,560 » Well, that's the motion that's on the 844 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,200 floor to provide a letter that says the 845 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,000 two the two things. So, can we have a 846 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,800 motion to amend? Hang on. Can we have a 847 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,599 motion to amend to take out the second 848 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:57,680 piece of that? So, what we'd be looking 849 00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:00,680 for is a letter that says he has 850 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,680 um 851 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:07,040 where am I at here? 852 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Uh I'm looking at page 125, item number 853 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,119 six, that the project complied with 854 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,520 zoning bylaws and building regulations 855 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:16,240 at the time it was constructed related 856 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,960 to um phase one through three. 857 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,680 » Perfect. So 858 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,680 » Before we go amending a motion, um is 859 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,480 this is this not going to just come back 860 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,560 to us from on four to seven phases four 861 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,560 to seven that he's so then why are 862 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,560 » In my email the very first email it said 863 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,119 there's work to be done on phases. 864 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,560 » So why would we not agree to support it 865 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,920 to provide a letter of support and 866 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,320 principle at this time? 867 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,280 » Like are we are we just dragging out the 868 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040 conversation? 869 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,119 » You could unless you see something 870 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,119 that's really contentious that you're 871 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,320 not comfortable with. But again, I 872 00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,160 haven't heard from my planning 873 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560 department. The four to seven is fine 874 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,400 and 875 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,839 » We're providing it in principle. You 876 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 are, you know, and we could make the 877 00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:56,640 word 878 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,800 » Exactly what John Bane says. 879 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,240 » Exactly. John Bane, 880 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,760 » I don't see a need to amend this. 881 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,839 » A letter of support in principle from 882 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,800 staff for an expansion to the 883 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:10,000 condominium phase 4 to 7 subject to 884 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,040 amendments to the bylaw can be provided. 885 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,000 » So is it an opportunity to say both 886 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,640 things? 887 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,079 » Yes. and therefore not not have to come 888 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,520 back if need be. 889 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,640 » I wasn't trying to make it bigger than 890 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,280 it needed to be. 891 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,440 » Yeah. And and Morton, I think too, you 892 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,839 know, this is one of those projects that 893 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,240 began at a time where there were not 894 00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:34,800 really a set of rules there. The project 895 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:37,119 begins now, you know, it's phases. Now 896 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,440 there's all kinds of rule well what 897 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,280 feels like all kinds of rules now 898 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,720 compared to what there was before. So, I 899 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,200 think this would just be one that we 900 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,200 want to maybe try to provide that kind 901 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,480 of a little bit of handholding. Um, if 902 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,040 there's anything that we can do in 903 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,400 advance, like this seems preemptive to 904 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680 to provide a letter of support in 905 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000 principle. Maybe that'll solve some 906 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,359 problems for for Cam, you know, and and 907 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,280 I think that development will be good 908 00:37:57,359 --> 00:38:00,160 for everyone. So, that's kind of what 909 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,720 I'm thinking. 910 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,280 » Okay. So there's a motion on the floor 911 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:09,040 and a seconder about writing a letter 912 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:12,079 that says go ahead one through three and 913 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,920 exactly as it's worded here um 914 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:17,440 construction 915 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:20,079 B was uh subject to amendments uh to 916 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,200 bylaws. So using this language that's 917 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,560 the motion on the floor with the 918 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,760 secondary. Is there any other 919 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,839 discussion? Go ahead. 920 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,839 » So 1 3 4 921 00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:28,839 » Yes. 922 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,000 one to three 923 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,880 is moved. 924 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,160 » So 925 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,160 » That the motion that I would have made 926 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,079 is that we provide a letter of support 927 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,920 for phases one to three of the Bearland 928 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,920 condominium as a grandfathered 929 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,320 campground use and further to provide a 930 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,640 letter of support in principle from for 931 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,400 an expansion to the condominium uh 932 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,079 phases four to seven subject to 933 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,400 amendments 934 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,400 to the bylaw. 935 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Okay. So 936 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,400 what I read earlier, the paragraph above 937 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,400 that says your next phase, second phase 938 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,480 4 to7 does not appear to predate the 939 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,760 zoning and therefore will be subject to 940 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,480 a reszoning to permit the use. So what 941 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:19,599 is it? It does or doesn't. The planning 942 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,720 should know. So what's he going to get 943 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,520 that's going to be any different than 944 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,560 what planning? as planning is saying it 945 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,720 does not appear to predate the zoning. 946 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:32,000 So all of this stuff is just slowing 947 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:33,359 down this project on a whole. 948 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400 I don't understand what 949 00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:36,960 » Speed it up is 950 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,640 » What you're doing, 951 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,320 but my thing is we're obviously 952 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,320 grandfathering or allowing this project 953 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,880 to go ahead. I have no issue with what's 954 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,200 happening. Let it go ahead. I have issue 955 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,880 with how this is kind of written. It 956 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960 doesn't. And then it says there is 957 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,839 however a possibility that you have some 958 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,560 pre-june approval for phases four to 959 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:58,000 seven. Well, you're saying it doesn't 960 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,040 and then you're saying ah there's a 961 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:05,320 possibility all subjective. 962 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,320 I have no issue with this thing. 963 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,440 I think you're saying, 964 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,440 » Right? I I think 965 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,640 » The three units he has built 966 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,280 » And the campground is something 967 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,839 different. 968 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,920 » Is that unless you have some 969 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:23,599 documentation that says that you started 970 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,760 before July June 4th, then you are 971 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,760 subject to the new zoning bylaws and if 972 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,400 you would like to move forward on phases 973 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,440 4 to 7, you are going to have to request 974 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,720 a change to zoning. and he's opening it 975 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,400 up to say if you have something that 976 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,720 shows that you started and that you 977 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,560 qualify for grandfathering in by all 978 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,400 means let me know but it doesn't appear 979 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,880 to me that you have. That's what I'm 980 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,880 taking from that. 981 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,440 So we have a motion on the floor which 982 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:58,480 is to write the two letters as outlined 983 00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:00,079 here and Cam Samson and it can be two 984 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,079 separate letters. But I think I'm happy 985 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,720 to do it in two separate letters. That 986 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:07,920 way he can use them as he see sees fit. 987 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,359 Any other discussion on that 988 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,720 hearing? None. All those in favor 989 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:12,640 signify by saying I. 990 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,079 » I. Those opposed. 991 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,720 » Motion is carried. Can you just yell out 992 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:20,400 to Brent there? Thank you. Okay. So then 993 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:26,400 the last item is the uh Richmond Arena 994 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:29,280 report. Um so uh that is to bring people 995 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:33,040 kind of up to snuff. that is are up to 996 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:36,640 speed. This is a report that was 997 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:39,599 requested by council. Um, so there was a 998 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,560 motion made at some point through um 999 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:45,680 last year uh last this past winter where 1000 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:50,560 we said we wanted um to put money in 1001 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:53,200 reserve for the repair of the arena 1002 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,920 floor, but we wanted to get some 1003 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,560 assurance that the items that had been 1004 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,240 flagged in a 2019 report, we just wanted 1005 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,560 some eyes on the structure of the 1006 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:05,680 building. And and I certainly would like 1007 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,319 to start by saying that it does appear 1008 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,920 through much of this that this building 1009 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:12,000 is in much better shape than it should 1010 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,960 be for a 50-year-old building. And that 1011 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,640 is no doubt a result of the caliber of 1012 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,640 the staff that have dealt with this 1013 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,319 building since it opened going all the 1014 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,920 way back to when there was a volunteer 1015 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:24,000 board. So I I I think there is 1016 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,760 recognition here that there is uh you 1017 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,520 know humidity control is something that 1018 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,880 they clearly were on top of and 1019 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,680 understood the importance of that 1020 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,079 because there is clearly almost a sense 1021 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,400 of surprise that the building uh a lot 1022 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:39,280 of the the issue here is is uh is as 1023 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:44,240 good as it is. But there are a series of 1024 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:48,480 recommendations. Um and um 1025 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:50,160 for all of my uh we all have other jobs 1026 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,520 and other lives, but in my previous 1027 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,839 life, if I read the sentence um there is 1028 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,520 obviously risk in continuing to operate 1029 00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:59,520 the facility with this reduced 1030 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,319 structural capacity as it pertains to 1031 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,720 the life safety of building occupants is 1032 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:07,440 not something that we uh as owners of 1033 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:11,040 that building can ignore. So there are a 1034 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,599 list of recommendations that speak about 1035 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,280 um some work that needs to be done and 1036 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:18,400 the recommendation is that it needs to 1037 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:21,119 be done before November of 2025 1038 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,680 which I assume rightly so means before 1039 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:28,319 we open the arena and some of those 1040 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:30,720 things include um things items that I 1041 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:34,480 believe are actually 1042 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:36,560 department of labor who who flagged some 1043 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,800 of that work 1044 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,160 » Some of the work we already have planned 1045 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,280 » Department of labor right so there were 1046 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,800 already some items that we have 1047 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,240 » I thought he said Chris said I think 1048 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,920 that there's some of these that are 1049 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,359 going to be fixed anyway as part of the 1050 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040 work that was already planned 1051 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:56,560 » Yeah 1052 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:58,240 so um you know we we are um so the 1053 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000 maximum what they're suggesting what 1054 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,440 they're not suggesting this is stated it 1055 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,119 is recommended that if the build that 1056 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,200 the building be closed to the public if 1057 00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:08,800 the snow load on the roof reach reaches 1058 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,680 24 lbs per square foot. Um, and that 1059 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,400 that represents whatever 3 and 1/2 ft of 1060 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:18,560 life fluffy snow or 1.2 ft of wet heavy 1061 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:21,440 snow. Um, and that um, real life 1062 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,520 monitoring uh, by maintenance staff or 1063 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,280 equipment. And it also speaks to cutting 1064 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,160 down trees on property that we don't 1065 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:31,680 own. So quite a lot to to to go through 1066 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,079 here, but you know, we are responsible 1067 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,359 for uh the residents of the county who 1068 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:38,720 go into that building. We're also 1069 00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:40,480 responsible for our, you know, any 1070 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:42,319 liability we would incur in the event 1071 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,200 of, you know, the worst case scenario. 1072 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:47,200 So opening this up for discussion about 1073 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,160 anything we would like to and I 1074 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640 personally would like some more 1075 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,359 information about what's it like. Do you 1076 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,160 get this real time 1077 00:44:53,359 --> 00:44:54,960 um 1078 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,520 » Snow 1079 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,599 » Snowload monitoring system? Do you just 1080 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,839 Is that like 50 bucks a Canadian Tire or 1081 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:03,839 is that tens of thousands of dollars? I 1082 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,680 I don't know. But I think and and is 1083 00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:07,440 there anything on this list that our 1084 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,520 director of public works says uh oh, 1085 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,920 can't do this by November or is this all 1086 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200 just stuff that we can easily do? So I 1087 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,200 you know I think there's some questions 1088 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,040 before we make any big decisions but we 1089 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,560 cannot ignore a sentence that says um 1090 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520 you know life safety of building 1091 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,319 occupants. 1092 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,280 » Chair if I may 1093 00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:28,319 » Go ahead. 1094 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,960 » As was discussed before budget that you 1095 00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:32,800 guys wanted to talk about this midsummer 1096 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,640 uh your director of public works is 1097 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,359 pulling together what things will look 1098 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,119 like for you guys in September. But this 1099 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:42,720 was an opportunity since we were having 1100 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:44,960 the meeting that if u you in the review 1101 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:47,760 of the same documents had other things 1102 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:52,079 that you wanted us to dig into, just let 1103 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:54,160 us know. Like uh the uh 1104 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:56,079 you know that that the statement about 1105 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,680 uh 1106 00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:01,520 um putting people at risk. Uh we're 1107 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,520 asking that to be qualified by the 1108 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,440 person who wrote that as well. just uh 1109 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,760 because the whole rest of the document 1110 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,839 talks about how well the building is and 1111 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,960 what good a shape it is and 1112 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:11,599 » However what 1113 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,800 » Stress 1114 00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:16,319 » Right and however what he put in there 1115 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,880 in that one sentence is quite 1116 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:21,920 inflammatory. So we need that qualified 1117 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,480 uh against what all the other data in 1118 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,480 the report is telling us. So, uh, Chris 1119 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,800 has pulled stuff together for you guys 1120 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,560 to have in September, but if you saw 1121 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,240 anything else in the documentary or you 1122 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,640 had other things you wanted us to dig 1123 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:36,240 into while we're digging into this, 1124 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,000 again, he's looking at what does the 1125 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,760 live monitoring look at, what are the 1126 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,640 solutions, and having a couple options 1127 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,240 for everybody to look at. So, we'll have 1128 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,400 some answers for you in September. So, 1129 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,640 hopefully we can acquire in September 1130 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:52,400 and October and be ready to go when we 1131 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:55,440 want to open the doors this fall. 1132 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:58,720 So, I'll I'll go around and see if 1133 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,880 anybody has any um additional questions 1134 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,720 you want to make sure are provided. You 1135 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,119 know, information is provided for our 1136 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,560 September committee of the whole report. 1137 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:09,599 So, councelor Mumb. 1138 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,359 » Thank you, Warden. Um so, I guess for me 1139 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,800 a couple questions spring to mind 1140 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:17,200 because we've had this since I think 1141 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:19,520 May. um the the life I agree CEO that is 1142 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,040 that is inflammatory language and it's a 1143 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,000 little bit out of context with the rest 1144 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,400 of the report but it's also one of those 1145 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,839 situations where once this cat is out of 1146 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,920 the bag and this has been brought to our 1147 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:36,319 attention we must act um to to mitigate 1148 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,680 any risk um I I you know and we're 1149 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:39,599 talking about some of the work needing 1150 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,319 to be done in November if we're only 1151 00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:44,800 seeing information in September 1152 00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:46,960 like and we've had since this since May. 1153 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,119 Like I'm I'm a little concerned about 1154 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,040 how tight a timeline that's going to be 1155 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,640 because if you know if it comes to 1156 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,560 council and we're making budgetary 1157 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,760 decisions 1158 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,119 um in September that's going to take 1159 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,280 Okay, that'll be a couple weeks. So 1160 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,520 it'll be the end of September before our 1161 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,040 regular council meeting. So then October 1162 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,560 the work's getting done. 1163 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,240 » I think some of the work is starting 1164 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,800 this summer. I should say like the metal 1165 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,640 work that's mentioned in here that's all 1166 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,960 being done over the summer as soon as it 1167 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,560 was identified that stuff's being done 1168 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,720 » Because like I think at the end of the 1169 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,640 day what we really need is okay we have 1170 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,640 this assessment 1171 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,720 there's something being done that we're 1172 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,559 not necessarily aware of as counselors 1173 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,720 not our job to be you know to know that 1174 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:30,720 but what we need is in the context of 1175 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:32,160 this assessment what's the work that 1176 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,960 we've done to address some of these 1177 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,520 risks in a timely manner and what are 1178 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,760 the next pieces and what would they cost 1179 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,400 » And and to your point on monitoring snow 1180 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,880 load, what does that mean for our staff? 1181 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,200 Like I I have visions of our staff 1182 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,720 members in a you know in after a 1183 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,880 snowstorm on the roof of that building 1184 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,880 and it doesn't sound very safe to me. So 1185 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,200 I'm Anyway, that those would be my 1186 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,960 comments. So thank you. 1187 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,400 » Pretty similar to 1188 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,480 » Yeah. No, I I don't think there's 1189 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:03,839 anything else. I mean, yeah, these 1190 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,079 things can be dealt with um manually, I 1191 00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:07,680 guess, if need be until a more permanent 1192 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:09,200 solution may be up there. I mean, tie 1193 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,559 downs could be placed on the roof, and 1194 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,400 that's not unusual for commercial 1195 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:14,559 buildings to have, you know, somebody 1196 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,800 clear snow if need be um when you get 1197 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:18,640 really high snow loads, but it's not 1198 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,160 necessarily, as the director of public 1199 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,359 works said, he had reached out one time, 1200 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,119 it's not necessarily easy to find 1201 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:26,000 someone on short notice. So, it may be a 1202 00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:28,079 matter of planning ahead or contacting, 1203 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,000 you know, companies that might do that 1204 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:32,319 this time of year and, you know, having 1205 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 something set up with them. Um, not 1206 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:37,040 saying it's a long-term solution, but it 1207 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,640 may be at least for for this year. Um, 1208 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,800 no, I'm happy to hear we'll we'll get 1209 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,119 some more information on it, and I'm 1210 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,119 fine with that. 1211 00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:51,839 Yeah, just a further add to 1212 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:53,440 your comments, warden, and and the 1213 00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:55,760 comments of council member kitten, 1214 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,680 deputy warden Samson. Uh, for me, it's 1215 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,240 hard to ignore when people talk about 1216 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,559 the safety of occupants. So, that's the 1217 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:04,800 number one priority in my opinion. Um 1218 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,880 secondly to voice uh what councelor 1219 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,119 murket said if we're looking at 1220 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,880 September meetings and looking come back 1221 00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:13,440 in September to discuss what has to be 1222 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,880 done. Uh I think all the residents know 1223 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,319 there's been delays the last couple 1224 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480 years with the opening of the arena. 1225 00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,920 Right. So what kind of time frame and 1226 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,599 how tight of a time frame are we looking 1227 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,680 at if something serious has to be done 1228 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,640 from September to November. Right. 1229 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,640 That would be my only concern 1230 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,520 » For the lifetime monitoring. I think 1231 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:37,200 that's something you can install on the 1232 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:40,160 beams anyway at any point. Uh maybe it's 1233 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,839 not a bad idea, but 1234 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,680 I don't think in November, December 1235 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:45,040 we're going to have snow loads we're 1236 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,319 going to have to worry about. So I think 1237 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,599 that'll give us some time anyway. Uh and 1238 00:50:48,319 --> 00:50:54,160 the fact Yeah. 1239 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:55,040 » Yeah. The with our souls closed. 1240 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,440 » That's all. 1241 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,319 » Yeah. 1242 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,559 » Uh 1243 00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:02,319 » The cons the concern is if any of the 1244 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:04,319 buildings locally would be assessed by 1245 00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:07,520 the same person. I would would imagine I 1246 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:09,680 mean you're putting quite 1247 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,240 I guess uh you know a stress on the 1248 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,400 person looking at any of these buildings 1249 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:16,559 to say. So he's at least quantified some 1250 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,240 numbers and he would like the building 1251 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,839 closed. He's not saying the building's 1252 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,359 going to collapse if it has that. He's 1253 00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:23,119 going to say this is what he thinks 1254 00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:26,000 based on the size of those beams what it 1255 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:29,520 can handle and if there's loads higher 1256 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,359 than that then shut it down. Uh and 1257 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,119 that's fine. I think the public wouldn't 1258 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:36,720 be against us, you know, for that. Uh I 1259 00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,480 don't maybe Chris can find out what the 1260 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,960 live monitoring is going to cost and we 1261 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,280 can look at putting that in. Yeah, we 1262 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,839 can look at getting that 1263 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,160 problem. 1264 00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:50,240 » Yeah. And I I I think it's not a bad 1265 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,480 idea to to do that. and uh all the other 1266 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,000 necessary work that needs to be done. Um 1267 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,359 I think he needs to get that done. He's 1268 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,079 aware of that. I think he's working on 1269 00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:01,359 that as well. So I think the report, you 1270 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:02,559 know, it states that over 50 years 1271 00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:04,319 doesn't look like the building has been 1272 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:07,200 stressed. I think that's something 1273 00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:08,960 because when I was when I was a kid with 1274 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:12,480 snow all the time, so I'm sure that 1275 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,319 building had quite a bit on it. 1276 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,359 » Thank you, Warden. There are, you know, 1277 00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:19,760 I know in my prior life if we lost our 1278 00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:21,520 fire alarm systems, we had to do fire 1279 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,760 watch and there's very particular things 1280 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,079 and, you know, we it could be that 1281 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,079 there's just protocols that our legal 1282 00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:30,640 department says, yes, this meets all the 1283 00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:33,040 criteria for appropriate real time 1284 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,800 monitoring or some sort of mechanical 1285 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,040 thing. And like you said, it's not every 1286 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,960 day, it's when there's snow load. My my 1287 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,839 only other concern when I was reading 1288 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,160 through this is I and I'm not an 1289 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:45,920 engineer, but I I would like for 1290 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,400 somebody to go through this in 1291 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,400 tremendous detail to make sure that 1292 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:55,119 everything in the report is included in 1293 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:57,200 the recommendation. So on page five, it 1294 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,440 says the misalign and I am not an 1295 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,839 engineer. So it may be that it says this 1296 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:04,000 in different engineer words, but the 1297 00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:06,079 this misalignment is noted in the items 1298 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,319 below and should be rectified even 1299 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:10,720 though the system appears to be so rod 1300 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:12,000 bracing and so on. So and I I don't know 1301 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:16,800 if that's captured in the 1302 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:19,520 recommendations. Same for page six. Um 1303 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,160 it talks about C figure one. So noted 1304 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,880 damage and missing items. Um just to 1305 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,480 make sure I I'm not clear that that is 1306 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,119 captured in the recommendation. So just 1307 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,960 to make sure that you know all the items 1308 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:33,040 even if it's because one of the things 1309 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,280 about this is that you're you're reading 1310 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,559 along and then there's a sentence about 1311 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,160 you know this is 1312 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,640 » Yeah so just to make sure that 1313 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,480 thoroughess and I'm not an engineer so 1314 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,200 but just to make sure all the necessary 1315 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,640 fixes have been captured. Deputy Warden, 1316 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,240 I see you. Or Councelor Marshon, you 1317 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,240 have your 1318 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,079 » Yeah, there if I remember correctly, 1319 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,599 there was also some other discussions 1320 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:56,000 about some of the plland that may have 1321 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:57,920 been on an angle. A bolt or two wasn't 1322 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,440 in the right spot. So, yeah, I don't 1323 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,480 think any of those things are in the 1324 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,480 recommendations because I don't think 1325 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,119 they're really serious. He noticed some 1326 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,400 of the the uh cross bracing wasn't 1327 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:09,200 didn't look like it was in the right 1328 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,839 spot because looking on the opposite 1329 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,440 side. Yeah. So, I mean 1330 00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:15,760 » Oh, I'm sorry. Press your button again. 1331 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,839 Sorry. If Chris feels that those things 1332 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,440 need to be looked at, get them look get 1333 00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:21,200 them done. You know, there's some plland 1334 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,640 that there may have been some damage 1335 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,920 because the garage door was put in the 1336 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,240 back end, could have been hit or 1337 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:29,040 something. Uh those kind of notes were 1338 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:31,839 in there. Uh it's been like that for 1339 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:34,079 quite some time. Uh there hasn't been no 1340 00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:36,720 renovations. You know, this door was put 1341 00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:38,559 on many, many, many years ago. Uh but 1342 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,160 yeah, if anybody feels they should be 1343 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:42,480 done and they've been brought to our 1344 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,119 attention, get them done. Don't have an 1345 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,520 issue with that. 1346 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,400 Go ahead. 1347 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,480 » Just ask one more thing. Um, so yeah, 1348 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,800 and I I totally I totally agree with 1349 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,280 Councelor Marshand. Um, I would say 1350 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,680 though that even if they are fairly 1351 00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,000 minor because they showed up in a 1352 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,800 report, could we just at least have them 1353 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,640 listed in whatever status update that 1354 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,640 Chris brings forward just so even if 1355 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,079 it's just complete complete whatever. I 1356 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,000 just think because they've showed up in 1357 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,400 the report, it' be nice. I think I think 1358 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,200 it's it's important for us to do that 1359 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,839 due diligence. Yeah. Thank you. 1360 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,359 » Yeah. You know how I like a list. 1361 00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:21,200 » And and I appreciate I'm not an 1362 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:22,880 engineer. So, as I was reading this, I 1363 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,640 thought there may be times where it's 1364 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,480 described here and I'm not capturing the 1365 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,000 connection, but I think we need to make 1366 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,400 sure that we've there's been an 1367 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,880 exhaustive review of all the points here 1368 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:37,040 on a on a go forward basis. 1369 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,720 » Okay. Any other uh and I I think do we 1370 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,400 need a motion of counsel? I think we've 1371 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:44,160 directed staff, so I think we're fine. 1372 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:46,319 Okay. So, um, seeing that there are no 1373 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,240 other items on the agenda, uh, this 1374 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:51,240 meeting is adjourned. Thank you, 1375 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:51,240 everyone.