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Just kidding.

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Ken? Here. Kirsten? Here. Aaron? Here. John? Here. Annie?

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Here. Betsy. Here. Ari? Here. Marissa Here.

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Yay. Good job. Good job. Okay. Public comment.

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Anybody been out in public lately? Got any comments?

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The highland fence looks good. It's no longer there.

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Yes. Yes, exactly.

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Agreed. And the grass is starting

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to grow in the reclamation areas of the trails.

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So there's hope for all that coming back.

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Spring is springing

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And we had our first 5K race out there for our program, so

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that was really exciting getting people out there to use it.

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Thank you. City on the record.

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Thank you City for letting us continue to use those trails

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during the reclamation process.

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Okay, anyone else? All right. Minutes.

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Any questions? Everybody have a chance to read 'em?

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Now's your chance. Read 'em now

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I move to accept them Second.

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Okay, we have a first and a second. All those in favor?

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Aye. Aye. Did you get That's Aaron and Kenny.

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I'm sorry, I should have said their name. You good? Okay.

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Any opposed? All right. Minutes are good.

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We got a presentation.

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It's not really a presentation.

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I feel like it should be a present.

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It says it's a presentation. It does.

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That's where I put it. But just introducing our new

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assistant director Keith Dawson is joining us.

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So this is the friendly face that you'll start seeing.

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He's been with us for a week, so he started last Monday.

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So I don't know if you wanna say anything,

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your background a little bit.

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Yeah, so a little bit about me.

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I've been in Parks Rec since pretty much 2008.

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I've been in each component of the Air Force since 2004.

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So active duty reserves

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and I'm now with the Colorado Air International Guard.

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Still actively serving drill weekends

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and my two weeks a month or two weeks a year.

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Excuse me. But no, I'm super excited to be here.

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Got a lot of experience in aquatics specifically.

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So Ryan Pools down in central Texas

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and then I ran pools for Foothills Park and Rec.

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We had six facilities over three, four cities

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that we took care of.

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So I oversaw all of that

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and so hopefully I can bring a lot of that experience here

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and help out Matt and his team

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and then Keith and his team as well.

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And just super excited

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and hope I can bring as much value to you guys

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as you guys have already started bringing to me. So

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Yeah, welcome.

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So did you move here for this

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position or were you living here?

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I was living in Littleton.

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So in about a two week period I found a home, got a U-Haul

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and moved up here Saturday

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before I started working on Monday.

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So me and my fiance how Austin

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Is a slave driver.

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Yeah. Wow. Welcome aboard. Thank you. Welcome board.

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Luckily like my fiance works remotely with the state

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of Colorado so she was able to work at home still.

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Well yeah, thanks. Well glad to have you Keith. Okay.

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That was a great presentation. You're welcome Mr. Dawson.

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You're welcome. That's kidding. Okay, regular agenda.

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It looks like we have a Girl Scout bronze Award project.

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Come on up. I this

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My name.

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My name is Whitney Alexander.

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I am nine years old and I've been a girl

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scout for boy years.

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I'm also a boy scout.

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I've been working on my bronze award project

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and I visited the local dog park

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and some walking paths, walking paths around rifle.

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When I went there I noticed the dog

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that the dogs didn't had, do not have a lot of toys

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When I interviewed some people, they who were there

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who were there, they said they might need some like toys

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or like a agility course for the dogs to do.

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And so my proposal project would be a dog library

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where people can get sticks and glue sticks or toys.

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My project would be made out of treated wood.

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That would be last for quite,

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for some quite years of being weathered.

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This would be a permanent future added to the dog part

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and possibly some other areas such as

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around the journey home walking paths

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and Lions Pond, central Park and by Bir

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and by Birch Park.

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I am making a global connection by researching the needs

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for the dog library and rifle.

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If I added one over at the lion's pond,

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then this wood could support travelers that

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visiting our beautiful place.

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Awesome. That's a great idea. Thank you.

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That's a fantastic idea.

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Does anybody have questions for Whitney?

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So are we talking just,

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or are we talking like a box of toys

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And things like that?

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Also Maybe like tennis balls sticks.

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They would grab a stick

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and then they would find a new stick up and put it back.

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Or if they have like they could buy tennis balls

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and take one and then put some more back.

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Okay. Do you have a spot picked out at Lion's Pond

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where you would wanna put it?

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I'm thinking like somewhere in the front when you start

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walking and then maybe like one at the end

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Where you could return it.

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Yeah, the right. Yeah.

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Well you can't return it because their saliva would mix

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and it would make dogs other sticks.

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So you'd take a stick home

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and then you would find another stick when you're walking

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and return it to the other place.

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So it's a treat for the dogs. That's right.

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They got a new toy to go home on. They got a, yeah.

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I'm unfamiliar with what a bronze award project is.

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Could you provide a little bit more background on that

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and other examples of ones that you might end up know about?

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A bronze award project is for Girl Scouts who they,

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they try to make the world a better place.

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There's bronze, silver, and gold.

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You could get all three.

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I'm going for my bronze

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and once I finish that I'll go into my silver and gold

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and like a bronze award is just trying to

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make something to make the world more better and beautiful.

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Sounds great. Great. Awesome.

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So I see your examples that you have here.

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Are those ones that you have seen before

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or just ones that you found when you were searching? We

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Were, we found them on Facebook and searching up.

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Okay. Is there anything local

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in other cities that have a a stick library?

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I haven't seen any, no. Hmm. We could be the first

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And I see you're gonna get your supplies

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to build it, donate it. Is that your next step?

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We're going to use some pallets, take it apart

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and use some, some,

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some stuff to make,

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make it last weather and

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Oh, oh yeah.

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Okay. Treat it. Treat it with some.

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Do you have a dog? I have three. I used to have four.

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Any other questions Ms. Whitney, what?

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What do you need from us today?

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I wanna like, I want to have to do this project

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so I'm seeing if you guys would allow it

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and see where would I be able to put it

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and where can I put it.

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Okay. Where I'm allowed to.

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Gotcha. So what's our thoughts on that team?

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I think it's a great idea. I think it's a great idea.

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It's a fantastic idea. My dog eat sticks

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but I think it's a great idea

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And I could think of several places,

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the dog park being one of 'em.

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The cemetery being another.

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I've seen a lot of people walk their dogs

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by the cemetery lot. The big ones.

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Yeah. How does staff feel?

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So we're really looking for a direction from you.

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We're supportive of the project.

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So you identifying locations that you're supportive of.

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I don't know how many Whitney's wanting to build,

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but really direction from you is what staff's looking for.

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You're overall supportive. We're supportive of it. So,

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library falls down?

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What happens if the library falls down?

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We would take all the pieces and put it in a bin

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and take it back home

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and we'll find out what happened to make it fall down

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and we'll try to rebuild it better

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and stronger for the next time.

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So you're gonna maintain the dog

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library, the stick library? Yes.

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Okay. Who's gonna maintain it

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with you? Do you have good support?

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My dad is who is a great builder and my mom.

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Perfect. Awesome.

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Any other, any other scouts that are gonna help

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and gonna help jump in with that

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Like make it a whole troop thing?

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Probably. Okay.

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So do we need a motion to put it in a certain space?

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Yes. Okay. Can do

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I'll just add that Lions pond is owned

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and operated by cdot so we can't do it do that

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unless they contact cdot.

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So we'd have to start dog park or one of our parks

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Dog park trail anywhere that is a city facility.

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Okay. Does anybody want to throw out a

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Location?

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I think the cemetery is a great location.

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Where Would they connect? Because there's a

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lot of dogs out there,

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But would that be hard to like mow

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and stuff if there's sticks all over there?

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Yes. My recommendation would be

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to avoid the cemetery. Yeah. Dog

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Park about, is it rural or I

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Can't think of the mar draw trail.

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There you go. That One. Oh, draw trail. That's kind

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Was my Thought.

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I'm gonna full sticks already.

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We could replace 'em pretty easy.

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Well it'd be good to, yeah.

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Easy Be easy to replenish it. Yeah, that's what I

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Mean.

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That's like a good stick zone.

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It's an easy maintenance kind of place.

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I think that's a good spot. Yeah.

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Yeah. Maybe next to the new memorial bench.

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Yeah, that's what I was, whenever it shows up.

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Okay. Okay. Do you want, you wanna wanna make a motion?

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I'll make said motion. What's your said motion

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To have her put a library on Monroe.

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Monroe Ro Drive Monroe. I get them too Confused.

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Morrow Draw Drive Trail. Trail draw trail. Okay.

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And the dog park or just Morrow Draw

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Can start there.

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Another one and then see how it goes.

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I don't wanna overwhelm her,

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Right?

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I mean her parents. I second it.

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Okay, so we have a first with Erin

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and a second from Betsy for Marrow Draw Trail.

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Yes. As a start. Okay. Okay. All those in favor?

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Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

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All right young lady, you have to get to work now.

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Thank You. Is there a one of those designs

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that you like better or are you gonna design

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a box of your own?

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Well I like, personally I like this one

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'cause you have toys and sticks

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or I could like do this, the sticks

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and then put like a little box down here with toys

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or like just a little, a cute box like that with Popin.

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So I think too, one thing

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'cause you have Austin's number is

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as you're working on the design, make sure

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and check in with him and

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and make sure that it's gonna work for the space.

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Does that sound reasonable? Awesome.

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And then when you finish we'd like a full report please.

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Pictures. Pictures. Yes. Awesome.

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Will you come back after you're done

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and show us what you've done?

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Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Awesome.

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You gave us a really great presentation. Yes. That

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Was awesome.

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Thank you Whitney. Good job.

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Okay, thank you. You thank you.

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All right.

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Are we gonna review a draft

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of the activity center feasibility?

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Yes.

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I don't know if you can gimme control

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at my computer plugged in.

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Oh The pole looks really tiny.

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The pole looks really tiny. So two,

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Did something happen to computer?

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Oh okay. Switching over. Switching over. Okay.

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Maybe. Okay.

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I'm not gonna bore you with going through every

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Portion 'cause it's 143 pages. Whoa.

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I read it today. It's a lot.

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I really just wanna give you high level things first.

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Looking at cost evaluation, that was a big thing.

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Through this process we have two options

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that we've identified

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and through this process that we've talked about.

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One with a pool, one without a pool, you can see that

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without a pool, $30.2 million is roughly the price tag.

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And then with a, with a pool is 46.6 million.

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Now with the pool, is

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that like putting a cover over our existing one

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or doing a whole separate one within

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the building? Whole pool. Whole

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Separate one. So

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One second.

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Whole new.

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So this is kind of an overview, it's kind

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of looking straight down on it.

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But this would be the facility with a full indoor pool.

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Oh, okay. Completely separate.

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And as you can see on, can

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I tell that by the drawing?

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Sorry, let me find the right document.

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And you can see that it's, the facility sits on the corner

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of 16th and railroad.

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So it's, there'll be a gap in between existing pool

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and new facility for parking. Like

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A little greenway.

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It'll be parking Space. Yeah. Oh, okay.

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So they're gonna, that gonna take out the

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tennis courts and all that?

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Yes, to the everything except

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for the skate park would be good.

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Oh, okay. Lemme see if I have a better image of the,

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yeah, so this is just standing

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in railroad looking at the building.

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So this, the skate park would stay,

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The skate park would stay

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and there'd be a small 10

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parking space parking lot over by the skate park

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to accommodate the skate park still.

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Right. Big things, which you guys have kind of seen,

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we identified seven locations throughout the, the process.

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We narrowed that down to two locations,

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which was Deerfield and Metro.

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We surveyed individuals on the location that they would want

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during the early stages.

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So the discovery phase of

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where they would like the facility located.

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And then you can see all of the things that came out of

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the survey that rifle was lacking.

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So indoor swimming track, indoor soccer.

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Y'all remember the build

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sender Activity that we did?

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I'm not gonna stop too much,

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but the postcards of feedback we got from the community,

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we did a market analysis, which is it, it's in the appendix

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of this draft

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that you can go look at if you haven't already.

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And it looks at operational costs.

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So building costs, staffing costs, all of those together.

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And that's where we get like the $750,000 deficit spend.

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If you had the full aquatics facility, that

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report focuses on a service area, which you can see

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is highlighted in blue.

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So about roughly about a 30 minute drive at five 15

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in the afternoon on a weekday to get to the facility.

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So trying to be realistic

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touches more on the market analysis,

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community engagement that we did through the process.

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And then we kind of got into the big ideas section of it

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where we focused on survey results.

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We had 138 survey results that we sent out

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or that we received that identified these priorities.

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So indoor track, indoor turf activity, gym.

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And that's how we decided what the programming was for this.

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And then you can see some initial concepts of

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what the facility could be based off those results.

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And then the evolution of metro park, once we

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determined that was the site we wanted

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to focus this survey on

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or this study, you can see we started with a building

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that was up against the pool and focused on putting a roof

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or a, a structure over the lap pool of the existing pool.

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And then you can see the evolution of us shifting away from

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that and shifting the facility to the corner

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of 16th and railroad

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Because an awning just isn't structurally

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It was the, the design team's opinions

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that it, it would lose value

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to the outdoor pool if you put a structure over the lap pool

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because it would be permanent.

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And so you would lose the ability to have that amenity

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plus site restrictions.

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If we put a building in between the leisure pool

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and the lap pool, there wasn't enough room for access

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for people to walk along that site.

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So it really just, it didn't fit for a permanent structure.

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And it was expensive. Yep. For what you were doing.

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It was about $7 million and add an indoor pool

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and it's about 12 more or 12 million.

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So what's, what's the, yeah when you're spending

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that much money, getting a a benefit without

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losing value in something is super important.

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And so that's why we shifted away from the cover.

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And then you could see kind

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of the concept plan for Deerfield.

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This was the concept plan for Metro Park as well.

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And so this is what it would look like without the pool.

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About a 38,000 square foot building without the pool

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and it's about 60,000 square feet with the pool.

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And then this was the first concept plan

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with the just covering the existing lap pool

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and then just going back through more community engagement.

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They attended hometown holidays

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and then if y'all remember we went over the tours

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that Annie was able to attend with us

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to see different amenities at different facilities.

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And so this just touches on where we stopped

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And then this just kind of goes into the more,

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into the evolution of the building, moving it around

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another just picture of

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what the building could potentially look like.

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See the pool doesn't look very big

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or that small in that picture.

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Correct.

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And then this just kind of goes into things

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that still need to be worked out.

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But Programming, this is the breakdown

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for programming for the facility without a pool.

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And then this is the breakdown with the pool

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and then just going into the final operations plan, that's

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where they'll talk about the, the subsidy that it'll take

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to operate both facilities if it would ever to happen.

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So, and then at the end

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of this process they'll help us start to look at what type

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of tax question

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or bond question would be required for construction

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and then most likely operation as well.

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'cause the current one that sales tax cannot

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operate an aquatics facility like shown

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with current levels of operation.

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And then I'll just pull up the model real quick.

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Sorry, it looks kind of funny

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but this is the general layout.

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So indoor playground, office space, locker rooms, kind

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of the entryway.

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This is pool, mechanical and aquatics offices.

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The pool, two full-size basketball courts that'll turn into

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four small courts.

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And then a full indoor turf field

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is kind of the programming that we're looking at right now.

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So I just wanted to get general feedback from

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you on this process.

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If you had a chance to read the 140 pages,

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if you had any feedback on what that material was.

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'cause we're just, we're coming to the end of this process,

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so this is kind of one of the last opportunities

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for you all to provide feedback.

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And Is it, is there still the second level? Oh sorry,

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Is that, Let me scroll up.

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Thank you. Second level includes a quarter mile walking

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track activity, like an activities classroom

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that can double as a meeting room.

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So kind of like a dance studio type vibe to

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where it has the accordion door

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or something similar in the middle

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that you could break into two smaller classrooms

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but also use it for meetings And then a very small

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gym with workout equipment.

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Are you in group classes in the room

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that's next to the gym?

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Yes.

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So

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Anything and the gray area right here.

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Where were your offices?

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Office space would be right here. Here,

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There. Okay.

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And then there's like a front desk area

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and then these are locker rooms right here.

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And what's that spot behind the office area?

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Right here? Yeah, that's an indoor playground. Okay. Which

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Is fine.

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Can you see the slide which

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Is high on the list?

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I'm blind. Just one ball pit.

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So is there like a lap pool?

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So there's two, so like a two lane pool or something?

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Yeah, this is very like conceptual but like two lap lanes.

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Like a, a flow flow channel similar to what we have.

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Lazy river. Yeah. Inch.

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It's very small lazy river where you can do like

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Walking, walking Like what's it pool now?

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Very similar. And then like a little kid area, kind

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of similar to what we have at the zero entry

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pool and then a slide.

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So this isn't set in stone at what it has to be,

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it's just the footprint of what it could be.

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And then is this I'm, I did not read 140 pages.

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Does does this budget in like the, like you some

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of the fun like retractable hoops and nets

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and things that you would see.

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So those numbers include all your soft costs

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and your ff So that's all in to get what we want.

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Okay. And so they're factoring in the

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Bills.

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They're, they're factoring in right now all the bills.

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So like what Annie got to see

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where you push a button and the volleyball

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Nets come down. So awesome,

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Awesome. Yes.

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Where You push a button and that goes up

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and the basketball hoops come down.

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So that stuff's included in that price.

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Awesome. Did anything

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with wrestling I was thinking about this.

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Is that what it, what we need for programs

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and those kind of things?

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For sure. Yeah we would,

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I vision us having a, you know, not just

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Our programs but whether it's club teams

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or sports teams renting out it in tournaments,

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big time tournaments coming down to utilize the facility.

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So I I really want four courts so badly.

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Yeah. And I think even with this it will

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lessen the burden of having to use the schools

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but we'll still have to use the schools.

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Yeah. Regardless. So

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It, it opens those wait lists up

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But it opens the wait lists up.

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It allows us to not have fourth graders practicing

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basketball at six or seven o'clock at night.

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Yeah. So it opens that up

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and it opens up to where we can get some

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of our activities pushed through after like school

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and then we're not having adults having

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to start playing their drop in sports at 10

524
00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:27,605
o'clock, nine o'clock at night. Yeah.

525
00:27:28,245 --> 00:27:29,605
I don't see my party room in here.

526
00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:31,485
I Know that's the, the

527
00:27:31,485 --> 00:27:33,485
Cafe, It's the cafe's not in there

528
00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:35,845
but you could have your birthday party room up there. There

529
00:27:35,845 --> 00:27:36,845
You right up there.

530
00:27:37,705 --> 00:27:39,965
Is there a window? Is There anything with Yes.

531
00:27:39,965 --> 00:27:42,765
Wrestling mats included with the bells on that?

532
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:48,595
No. Could you put

533
00:27:48,595 --> 00:27:52,725
those on either the turf or the basketball? Like is

534
00:27:52,725 --> 00:27:54,645
That you just roll 'em out, you could, you have to buy

535
00:27:54,645 --> 00:27:57,365
To the basketball somewhere to store 'em Would be that,

536
00:27:57,495 --> 00:27:59,485
Would that be big enough to host a tournament?

537
00:27:59,595 --> 00:28:00,605
Like a wrestling tournament?

538
00:28:02,445 --> 00:28:04,485
I dunno how much room you need for a wrestling tournament. I

539
00:28:04,485 --> 00:28:05,205
Quite a bit. I'm looking

540
00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:07,605
At you Got two full size courts.

541
00:28:07,605 --> 00:28:09,965
You could high school gym now. Okay.

542
00:28:10,065 --> 00:28:14,685
You can break mats or Yeah, two full-size basketball courts.

543
00:28:14,685 --> 00:28:15,365
You could definitely,

544
00:28:15,645 --> 00:28:16,845
probably you could hold a big tournament. They

545
00:28:16,845 --> 00:28:18,125
Don't ruin the basketball floors

546
00:28:18,125 --> 00:28:19,765
by putting the wrestling mat on them.

547
00:28:20,195 --> 00:28:21,645
Just letting you know my opinion.

548
00:28:24,585 --> 00:28:26,925
It doesn't mess the floors up to put mats on 'em

549
00:28:27,905 --> 00:28:29,805
In in a basketball player's opinion.

550
00:28:30,115 --> 00:28:31,685
Yeah, it's kind of sacrilegious

551
00:28:32,275 --> 00:28:34,645
Because of what what does it do? It's just

552
00:28:35,245 --> 00:28:36,245
Sacrilegious.

553
00:28:37,195 --> 00:28:39,405
It's, I was a basketball player too. I get it.

554
00:28:39,945 --> 00:28:42,245
The other thing is like women's wrestling,

555
00:28:42,245 --> 00:28:44,205
girls wrestling right now is the fastest real

556
00:28:44,325 --> 00:28:45,365
I sport in, in the States.

557
00:28:45,665 --> 00:28:47,405
So it's huge. It is a huge thing. I

558
00:28:47,505 --> 00:28:49,005
It would be a a good, It's

559
00:28:49,005 --> 00:28:50,085
just an option to add. Do not,

560
00:28:50,845 --> 00:28:52,965
I have always like is there something sticky on them?

561
00:28:53,725 --> 00:28:54,765
I thought you were being serious.

562
00:28:54,825 --> 00:28:55,965
Get sweaty and then it just

563
00:28:56,095 --> 00:28:57,095
Ruins.

564
00:28:57,135 --> 00:28:58,205
Masks do not hurt

565
00:28:58,205 --> 00:29:00,525
The floor and storage isn't a huge concern.

566
00:29:00,805 --> 00:29:01,805
'cause I mean they have the systems

567
00:29:01,805 --> 00:29:03,165
that lift it up into the air. So,

568
00:29:03,385 --> 00:29:05,205
But it doesn't seem like you have a lot of storage

569
00:29:05,735 --> 00:29:06,965
space in this building.

570
00:29:07,425 --> 00:29:09,525
Yep. It's air space. There's,

571
00:29:09,525 --> 00:29:11,765
There's So you would still have the building you are

572
00:29:11,765 --> 00:29:13,765
currently in to store things as well

573
00:29:14,265 --> 00:29:16,325
or are we going to utilize that differently?

574
00:29:16,475 --> 00:29:17,645
Nope. They have their track.

575
00:29:18,125 --> 00:29:21,005
I say they, those rec people have those rec people

576
00:29:21,955 --> 00:29:24,765
Have their own Garage space at the

577
00:29:24,765 --> 00:29:25,765
Park space.

578
00:29:25,765 --> 00:29:27,245
Right. But then you have to shuffle it back and forth

579
00:29:27,305 --> 00:29:28,645
and back and forth and those kind of things.

580
00:29:28,765 --> 00:29:31,845
I mean we aren't the first sit field house to be like

581
00:29:31,845 --> 00:29:33,245
where do you store your wrestling nuts?

582
00:29:33,345 --> 00:29:36,405
I'm sure there's tire levers, police,

583
00:29:37,295 --> 00:29:38,295
There is some something.

584
00:29:38,295 --> 00:29:41,445
There is storage built into this area for that's

585
00:29:41,445 --> 00:29:42,445
A lot of space Right there.

586
00:29:42,445 --> 00:29:44,285
Equipment. 'cause you'll have like a floor

587
00:29:44,285 --> 00:29:45,965
scrubber and all of those things.

588
00:29:46,195 --> 00:29:48,645
It's not much. But most facilities that you go to don't,

589
00:29:48,875 --> 00:29:50,845
They don't, they don't like work.

590
00:29:50,845 --> 00:29:53,725
Storage is an afterthought. We'll think of ways to,

591
00:29:53,725 --> 00:29:54,805
You have to get all your programming in

592
00:29:54,805 --> 00:29:55,845
and you figure out like

593
00:29:55,915 --> 00:29:59,765
Well but it also by one concern about this is

594
00:29:59,765 --> 00:30:02,565
that we're building it for what we need now

595
00:30:02,745 --> 00:30:04,725
and not building it for what we need in the future.

596
00:30:05,465 --> 00:30:07,805
And that, that is like my sticking point.

597
00:30:08,885 --> 00:30:10,125
I feel like fitness classes

598
00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:12,485
and those kind of things are gonna be something we need

599
00:30:12,625 --> 00:30:15,605
and for programming to bring adults in to help

600
00:30:16,205 --> 00:30:17,765
maintain the costs of these things.

601
00:30:18,505 --> 00:30:20,045
And we don't have space for that.

602
00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:23,645
And that that that's the one holdup

603
00:30:23,645 --> 00:30:25,845
that I'm like it's really scratchy

604
00:30:25,985 --> 00:30:26,985
For me.

605
00:30:26,985 --> 00:30:27,845
Well and I will say like when,

606
00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:31,965
when we did our tours right like there were lots of things

607
00:30:31,965 --> 00:30:33,085
that they would come out and they would be like,

608
00:30:33,085 --> 00:30:36,965
oh we had this space and we were doing whatever

609
00:30:37,145 --> 00:30:38,885
and then we were like, oh why are we doing that?

610
00:30:38,955 --> 00:30:41,445
Nevermind let's you know. And so they pivot.

611
00:30:41,655 --> 00:30:44,605
Pivot for sure and and did some of those things. So,

612
00:30:46,785 --> 00:30:48,645
But I feel like we're building this in five years

613
00:30:49,585 --> 00:30:51,565
as a dream and we were already outgrown it.

614
00:30:52,395 --> 00:30:54,965
Yeah. But we don't have more space or money do we?

615
00:30:55,235 --> 00:30:57,885
Like you're over budget and Well we don't have any ed in

616
00:30:59,145 --> 00:31:00,145
You can build it.

617
00:31:00,145 --> 00:31:00,925
We don't have any money yet.

618
00:31:01,495 --> 00:31:03,125
You'd have to find a different site if you

619
00:31:03,125 --> 00:31:04,565
wanted to go any bigger than this. Yeah,

620
00:31:04,565 --> 00:31:06,205
It's the footprint. Yeah.

621
00:31:06,395 --> 00:31:08,685
Yeah. I just feel like it's a waste if

622
00:31:08,685 --> 00:31:09,805
we don't build for the future.

623
00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:14,165
Were any of those other locations like still in the talks

624
00:31:14,255 --> 00:31:17,165
where it could expand later or No we pretty much down

625
00:31:17,165 --> 00:31:19,005
because even even the spot at Deerfield,

626
00:31:19,025 --> 00:31:20,085
you can't expand much.

627
00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:24,125
Not much. We didn't spend a lot of time going into

628
00:31:25,015 --> 00:31:27,405
other properties that we'd have to purchase because

629
00:31:28,555 --> 00:31:31,365
City already owns this City already owns these two.

630
00:31:32,185 --> 00:31:35,605
If we were to identify a site that was not owned

631
00:31:35,665 --> 00:31:38,405
by the city, then the cost goes up could drive

632
00:31:38,405 --> 00:31:40,565
that price tag up very, oh for sure. Significantly.

633
00:31:41,425 --> 00:31:42,445
I'm not sure. Are we talking though

634
00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:44,285
like millions of dollars

635
00:31:44,825 --> 00:31:47,405
For a Do a land swap, do some property?

636
00:31:48,305 --> 00:31:50,725
Yes. Do the, does somebody need an island million

637
00:31:50,725 --> 00:31:53,605
Dollars on a 30 something million call?

638
00:31:53,605 --> 00:31:55,125
Of course. How many would be like 10 million?

639
00:31:55,675 --> 00:31:57,085
Many would be available to help

640
00:31:57,085 --> 00:32:00,005
with offsetting the cost on this across from,

641
00:32:04,595 --> 00:32:06,445
It's hard to say there's grants out there to do it.

642
00:32:06,985 --> 00:32:10,045
You can tie some of them to like clean air spaces

643
00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:14,805
and wildfire areas that has a lot of grants that if you

644
00:32:15,345 --> 00:32:18,405
put the right HVAC system in that there's grant funding for

645
00:32:18,405 --> 00:32:22,365
that to help support like community solar spaces,

646
00:32:22,365 --> 00:32:23,405
solar. Yep. Because there's solar,

647
00:32:23,405 --> 00:32:25,485
Solar green energy They have for the solar.

648
00:32:25,685 --> 00:32:29,365
A perfect example of a solar grant is the,

649
00:32:29,945 --> 00:32:31,245
was it gypsum field house

650
00:32:31,265 --> 00:32:35,485
or we went to a field house in Gypsum

651
00:32:35,785 --> 00:32:39,125
and their whole south side of their building,

652
00:32:39,215 --> 00:32:42,605
which no one sees it's up against the trail is all solar

653
00:32:42,945 --> 00:32:46,525
and they got a grant for solar to help pay for the building

654
00:32:47,055 --> 00:32:48,845
Which then helps pay for the energy.

655
00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:50,165
Yeah it helps pay for the energy.

656
00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:52,485
So there's lots of grants out there If we get creative

657
00:32:53,065 --> 00:32:56,645
and as we get closer to potentially doing this,

658
00:32:58,025 --> 00:33:00,165
we have our grant writers that we could turn loose on

659
00:33:00,165 --> 00:33:01,565
finding us funding opportunities.

660
00:33:01,705 --> 00:33:03,565
But it will have to be a tax question.

661
00:33:03,845 --> 00:33:04,605
I was gonna say it's gonna have,

662
00:33:04,835 --> 00:33:05,645
it's gonna have to be a tax

663
00:33:06,045 --> 00:33:06,925
Solution regardless of regardless

664
00:33:07,145 --> 00:33:08,165
how much grant funding you

665
00:33:08,165 --> 00:33:09,165
Get.

666
00:33:09,165 --> 00:33:12,205
I know oil and gas we lost $2 billion

667
00:33:13,145 --> 00:33:16,285
and it's gonna be even more in the next few years.

668
00:33:16,505 --> 00:33:19,845
So that's something that we are going to have to eat.

669
00:33:22,105 --> 00:33:23,765
And then you got all the other entities.

670
00:33:26,365 --> 00:33:28,885
'cause I hear this every night about taxes.

671
00:33:29,225 --> 00:33:33,045
So that's just something if we're, if we're,

672
00:33:35,035 --> 00:33:37,885
when I want to say upfront

673
00:33:38,465 --> 00:33:41,285
and give them all the details, you know,

674
00:33:41,385 --> 00:33:45,885
hey your taxes are gonna go up on X amount of house value,

675
00:33:46,235 --> 00:33:47,285
it's gonna go up this much.

676
00:33:47,465 --> 00:33:51,805
It may help out. But if p if we just, you know,

677
00:33:52,235 --> 00:33:56,125
they get their tax bill and it's four or $500 more

678
00:33:56,305 --> 00:33:57,325
and it's a shocker

679
00:33:57,325 --> 00:33:58,725
that people aren't gonna be happy about it.

680
00:33:59,075 --> 00:34:01,245
Well and would ours, would ours be property based

681
00:34:01,245 --> 00:34:02,925
or would it be with the sales tax? It

682
00:34:02,925 --> 00:34:05,565
Really depends on how you structure the tax question.

683
00:34:08,695 --> 00:34:11,085
Which we most likely would hire a firm

684
00:34:11,515 --> 00:34:13,285
that specializes in this to help

685
00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:14,285
Us.

686
00:34:14,285 --> 00:34:14,285
Yes.

687
00:34:20,745 --> 00:34:22,005
And everybody said they wanted it

688
00:34:22,345 --> 00:34:25,285
but nobody want in the survey wanted to pay for that.

689
00:34:25,285 --> 00:34:27,445
They wanted it their taxes to go up. Correct.

690
00:34:28,265 --> 00:34:30,365
Is this something we should incorporate in the survey

691
00:34:30,435 --> 00:34:31,565
that these guys are doing?

692
00:34:31,795 --> 00:34:33,125
Well that was my question. Get

693
00:34:33,125 --> 00:34:34,165
the conversation rolling with

694
00:34:34,165 --> 00:34:37,725
It doesn't really fit with the comp plan update

695
00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:40,725
but that's why I brought up the point of we can move,

696
00:34:40,915 --> 00:34:44,645
it's been two years since we did our community survey

697
00:34:44,945 --> 00:34:46,245
so it could be something

698
00:34:46,245 --> 00:34:49,445
that we look at in budget if it fits to move

699
00:34:49,445 --> 00:34:51,925
that up from 2029 to 2027

700
00:34:52,945 --> 00:34:54,525
and we can start asking those questions,

701
00:34:54,525 --> 00:34:58,725
which if we go down this road, which seems like we're going

702
00:34:58,725 --> 00:35:01,205
to go down this road, we might move that up

703
00:35:01,205 --> 00:35:02,285
to help the process

704
00:35:02,505 --> 00:35:06,725
and really focus on asking those hard questions.

705
00:35:07,585 --> 00:35:09,525
Yep. Or

706
00:35:10,175 --> 00:35:12,845
Explaining what it was like you were saying like

707
00:35:12,845 --> 00:35:14,045
what it's actually going to Aaron.

708
00:35:14,045 --> 00:35:15,085
Right? Like it's,

709
00:35:16,025 --> 00:35:17,925
And I think that's where the consulting firm comes

710
00:35:17,925 --> 00:35:21,005
in to help you Yeah. Deliver that message.

711
00:35:21,605 --> 00:35:25,325
Sure. And that's where, for example,

712
00:35:25,425 --> 00:35:27,925
the hospital used a firm for their

713
00:35:30,415 --> 00:35:32,005
issue question their question

714
00:35:32,465 --> 00:35:34,005
And they're not raising our taxes

715
00:35:34,305 --> 00:35:36,685
but they're just extending. But they,

716
00:35:36,945 --> 00:35:37,885
How long they paid a company

717
00:35:38,105 --> 00:35:39,325
to do all the marketing for them.

718
00:35:39,325 --> 00:35:41,845
Because something that happens once the,

719
00:35:43,395 --> 00:35:46,085
once the question is approved by council,

720
00:35:46,625 --> 00:35:48,885
we no longer can talk about it as staff.

721
00:35:51,525 --> 00:35:54,105
And so that's where some of these things die off.

722
00:35:54,205 --> 00:35:58,425
But if we have this consultant that's pushing the message

723
00:36:00,175 --> 00:36:02,905
that we've already determined, we're not talking about it.

724
00:36:02,965 --> 00:36:05,025
So it's, I think that's what

725
00:36:05,065 --> 00:36:06,065
A loophole's the helpful.

726
00:36:06,775 --> 00:36:09,545
Yeah and that's what happened last time is

727
00:36:09,545 --> 00:36:11,985
that there wasn't enough conversation in the beginning.

728
00:36:12,485 --> 00:36:16,865
No. And it lost all, its multiple times

729
00:36:17,055 --> 00:36:18,305
It's lost in my opinion.

730
00:36:18,305 --> 00:36:21,065
This is the closest thing we've gotten to that point

731
00:36:21,065 --> 00:36:24,665
because it's like we're truly like seeing if it's feasible

732
00:36:24,665 --> 00:36:27,185
to do and then this allows us to go

733
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:28,785
to the public and say hey

734
00:36:29,405 --> 00:36:30,465
Are we gonna share this?

735
00:36:32,675 --> 00:36:34,145
Maybe Not a beautiful marketing guy.

736
00:36:34,355 --> 00:36:35,705
Maybe not in a hundred and

737
00:36:35,705 --> 00:36:38,625
because the 140 I'm overwhelming seven pages will probably

738
00:36:38,625 --> 00:36:41,265
turn into two to 250 pages by the time

739
00:36:41,265 --> 00:36:42,545
that the report's finished

740
00:36:43,135 --> 00:36:44,135
Need a one page.

741
00:36:44,365 --> 00:36:45,985
So we'll have to take it and make it

742
00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:47,465
into a one page document. Yeah,

743
00:36:47,945 --> 00:36:48,945
A one page.

744
00:36:48,945 --> 00:36:49,665
Good luck Kyle. I'm just kidding.

745
00:36:50,805 --> 00:36:53,345
So that's part of our job. Yeah.

746
00:36:53,565 --> 00:36:55,665
Is trying to figure out how to get

747
00:36:55,665 --> 00:36:56,905
that information out once it's

748
00:36:57,065 --> 00:36:58,065
Complete.

749
00:36:58,065 --> 00:36:59,465
Okay. It'll be interesting to see.

750
00:36:59,665 --> 00:37:02,425
I mean I know Yeah, not everybody's on

751
00:37:02,965 --> 00:37:04,745
You all as board members.

752
00:37:04,935 --> 00:37:08,105
It's like you can also help deliver that message.

753
00:37:11,825 --> 00:37:13,505
I think we should go to the next Rambo meeting.

754
00:37:14,415 --> 00:37:16,185
Just kidding. Let's see

755
00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:18,345
what else we should probably show up at your classroom.

756
00:37:21,645 --> 00:37:25,665
So any other feedback on the draft

757
00:37:25,685 --> 00:37:27,145
of the feasibility setting?

758
00:37:27,225 --> 00:37:29,265
I know it's a lot of information and I It was

759
00:37:29,265 --> 00:37:32,785
Very comprehensive though, so it was, it was good to kind

760
00:37:32,785 --> 00:37:34,785
of walk through that plan again since it's been

761
00:37:34,965 --> 00:37:35,985
so long since we started.

762
00:37:36,525 --> 00:37:38,505
And so once they finalize the plan,

763
00:37:38,725 --> 00:37:41,465
you'll either have a joint workshop with council

764
00:37:41,605 --> 00:37:45,825
or you'll have your own presentation

765
00:37:46,375 --> 00:37:49,065
from the consultants where you really can ask them

766
00:37:50,025 --> 00:37:53,905
questions about the the final draft

767
00:37:54,045 --> 00:37:57,105
and how they determined it, their their opinions.

768
00:37:57,365 --> 00:37:58,365
So.

769
00:38:00,335 --> 00:38:03,265
Okay. Anybody have any other questions? Hmm.

770
00:38:06,175 --> 00:38:07,225
Okay, we ready to move on?

771
00:38:07,855 --> 00:38:11,625
Discuss the south rifle master plan. Yes.

772
00:38:11,645 --> 00:38:13,825
Is it 170 pages? No.

773
00:38:14,805 --> 00:38:16,985
So I included in there their

774
00:38:18,295 --> 00:38:19,865
programming estimated costs.

775
00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:23,265
I won't dive into those too much,

776
00:38:23,365 --> 00:38:27,945
but I really wanted to get in front of you the

777
00:38:29,635 --> 00:38:31,345
draft master plan.

778
00:38:31,875 --> 00:38:34,425
Lemme see if I can zoom into this.

779
00:38:38,425 --> 00:38:40,845
So I'll start with just this a blind.

780
00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:43,085
So as we're looking at the map,

781
00:38:44,645 --> 00:38:47,845
everything's color coded into different amenities that

782
00:38:49,145 --> 00:38:50,765
are within the master plan.

783
00:38:51,785 --> 00:38:55,125
So you can see there's a playground which is about the same

784
00:38:55,155 --> 00:38:56,245
size as what we're building.

785
00:38:56,395 --> 00:38:57,525
It's actually a little bit bigger than

786
00:38:57,525 --> 00:39:00,085
what we're building at Birch for playground.

787
00:39:00,145 --> 00:39:01,685
Wow. And these numbers can change

788
00:39:02,705 --> 00:39:04,245
but this is just what they're estimating.

789
00:39:05,405 --> 00:39:09,125
Mountain bike skills, park pavilions,

790
00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:10,605
adventure play, disc golf.

791
00:39:10,705 --> 00:39:13,685
So there's a full 18 hole disc golf course, dog park,

792
00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:18,045
outdoor fitness stations, nature play,

793
00:39:18,885 --> 00:39:20,365
everything we kind of talked about.

794
00:39:20,905 --> 00:39:22,605
So let me zoom out.

795
00:39:24,265 --> 00:39:25,445
You can kind of see the layout

796
00:39:26,025 --> 00:39:29,285
of the site.

797
00:39:29,465 --> 00:39:31,765
And so really looking at

798
00:39:33,125 --> 00:39:37,205
a mountain bike skills park right here, you can see that the

799
00:39:37,725 --> 00:39:40,685
18 hole disc golf course kind of takes up this,

800
00:39:41,155 --> 00:39:42,805
this main section right here.

801
00:39:44,095 --> 00:39:46,685
Playground and then the archery range

802
00:39:46,755 --> 00:39:48,205
that we were able to include.

803
00:39:48,625 --> 00:39:49,805
Let me jump back in.

804
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:54,845
Sorry my computer's so slow archery range right here.

805
00:39:56,845 --> 00:39:58,805
I don't, I don't know how much. Oops. Prs.

806
00:39:58,805 --> 00:40:01,645
Do you think that you guys were able to look at this

807
00:40:01,665 --> 00:40:03,885
before the meeting but looks great.

808
00:40:04,265 --> 00:40:06,165
Really looking at feedback.

809
00:40:06,335 --> 00:40:09,445
We're meeting with our consultants on Thursday to kind

810
00:40:09,445 --> 00:40:12,365
of give them the final edits

811
00:40:12,365 --> 00:40:13,885
and red lines that we'd like to see

812
00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:16,525
and talk through the process with them.

813
00:40:17,105 --> 00:40:20,205
But this is kind of where we're ending up.

814
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:30,355
That makes a am excited. I am too. I like it. Yeah

815
00:40:31,935 --> 00:40:32,955
And it really needs something

816
00:40:32,955 --> 00:40:34,035
over there on that side. No,

817
00:40:34,035 --> 00:40:35,035
Definitely.

818
00:40:35,035 --> 00:40:36,555
And we need a golf, a disc golf

819
00:40:36,555 --> 00:40:37,555
Course.

820
00:40:37,555 --> 00:40:38,595
So need a disc golf and

821
00:40:38,595 --> 00:40:40,715
This is something you can stick in a weird space.

822
00:40:40,715 --> 00:40:42,435
That's something that's been brought up multiple times

823
00:40:42,435 --> 00:40:43,475
since I've been on the board.

824
00:40:44,815 --> 00:40:45,995
That's why I got on the board.

825
00:40:46,235 --> 00:40:47,235
I was gonna say Annie joined the

826
00:40:47,235 --> 00:40:48,155
Prep board.

827
00:40:48,155 --> 00:40:48,575
We had disc golf

828
00:40:49,495 --> 00:40:51,155
In gumption like we can build it.

829
00:40:51,595 --> 00:40:53,515
Yeah if you build it they will come.

830
00:40:53,995 --> 00:40:55,875
I saw there on there as a contractor.

831
00:40:56,165 --> 00:40:59,315
Right. Yeah. I will say, you know,

832
00:40:59,315 --> 00:41:02,235
seeing the disc golf of course layout.

833
00:41:03,855 --> 00:41:05,595
You know we, I brought this up before

834
00:41:05,655 --> 00:41:08,195
but the, there are some concerns about the intersection

835
00:41:08,215 --> 00:41:11,675
of trails and you know, biking

836
00:41:12,385 --> 00:41:14,035
with some of the disc golfing.

837
00:41:17,625 --> 00:41:20,085
Has that been brought up? You know like this is my first

838
00:41:20,085 --> 00:41:22,765
time with this presentation.

839
00:41:22,885 --> 00:41:25,285
Kind of looking at the layout of this

840
00:41:26,585 --> 00:41:31,165
for the actual disc golf itself,

841
00:41:31,905 --> 00:41:33,805
How many holes actually actually cross the trail?

842
00:41:35,155 --> 00:41:36,165
There's a decent amount.

843
00:41:36,235 --> 00:41:40,965
There's up here a lot of these are multipurpose trails.

844
00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:42,565
So hiking and biking

845
00:41:42,745 --> 00:41:45,205
and then really the bike parks down here.

846
00:41:45,635 --> 00:41:49,045
Yeah. I'm also surprised to see some of the holes like

847
00:41:50,455 --> 00:41:52,725
seven and eight in the nature play area.

848
00:41:56,045 --> 00:41:59,845
I guess when that was kind of proposed,

849
00:41:59,945 --> 00:42:01,725
it was my understanding that that would be more

850
00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:03,285
of a natural space

851
00:42:03,385 --> 00:42:07,245
and not so much the disc golf courses

852
00:42:07,585 --> 00:42:10,645
or like disc golf area being utilized in that space.

853
00:42:11,445 --> 00:42:13,885
I don't really think that baskets are obtrusive in a

854
00:42:13,885 --> 00:42:16,365
nature space, but I do feel like they should be

855
00:42:16,365 --> 00:42:19,245
directionally away from where the kids are playing.

856
00:42:20,595 --> 00:42:23,965
Yeah. Like tee their basket away from the kids.

857
00:42:31,665 --> 00:42:33,845
How many total acres is this again?

858
00:42:34,045 --> 00:42:35,685
112. Yeah.

859
00:42:37,725 --> 00:42:41,205
I do really like the trail that kind of goes

860
00:42:41,825 --> 00:42:45,445
behind this null area in the nature play.

861
00:42:47,195 --> 00:42:49,885
Kind of like where number 14 is located.

862
00:42:51,355 --> 00:42:52,485
That was one that was not,

863
00:42:53,645 --> 00:42:57,205
I I believe proposed in the original plan.

864
00:42:57,465 --> 00:43:01,565
So that's one that we identified in a a walkthrough

865
00:43:04,305 --> 00:43:07,085
as like a high value area in the green area.

866
00:43:08,435 --> 00:43:12,045
Yeah, I mean is that like a practical feedback

867
00:43:12,145 --> 00:43:15,965
to tell the designers if we were like hey make the baskets

868
00:43:15,965 --> 00:43:17,085
not by where the kids are.

869
00:43:17,265 --> 00:43:19,285
Do they have to cross the trail so many times?

870
00:43:19,375 --> 00:43:21,485
Where is that something easy they could fix?

871
00:43:22,445 --> 00:43:24,685
I think that's getting you really into construction

872
00:43:24,965 --> 00:43:27,965
documents where this is just kind of a concept of where they

873
00:43:28,475 --> 00:43:29,605
generally will go.

874
00:43:29,925 --> 00:43:32,125
'cause during construction documents is

875
00:43:32,125 --> 00:43:35,245
where you'll start focusing on like placement the tee boxes

876
00:43:35,355 --> 00:43:37,205
here and it faces this direction.

877
00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:39,165
So this is just kind of getting the general

878
00:43:39,315 --> 00:43:40,405
idea of where they could go.

879
00:43:40,665 --> 00:43:42,605
And then you'll really get into the fine details

880
00:43:42,845 --> 00:43:44,405
during construction documents.

881
00:43:44,835 --> 00:43:49,515
Okay. In that next, yeah.

882
00:43:49,535 --> 00:43:51,955
In a construction phase and,

883
00:43:52,055 --> 00:43:54,515
and it might go back to the table

884
00:43:55,015 --> 00:43:58,635
but is that kind of like re-looking at trail alignment?

885
00:43:58,935 --> 00:44:00,755
Is that gonna be part of sort

886
00:44:00,755 --> 00:44:02,075
of some of the next steps there?

887
00:44:02,175 --> 00:44:03,435
So these are just kind of general areas

888
00:44:03,575 --> 00:44:06,955
and construction documents really identify exactly

889
00:44:07,045 --> 00:44:08,755
where trails will go.

890
00:44:09,705 --> 00:44:11,355
Okay. I mean we hope that

891
00:44:11,355 --> 00:44:14,155
that's a problem every single day that there's enough people

892
00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:15,515
that those things are,

893
00:44:16,535 --> 00:44:20,475
but it's still 112 acres to spread people out on like,

894
00:44:20,595 --> 00:44:22,355
I mean we're not trying to cram it in five.

895
00:44:22,535 --> 00:44:26,595
Yep. So I hope that enough people use it that

896
00:44:27,505 --> 00:44:30,635
that thinking about it is gonna be doable.

897
00:44:30,635 --> 00:44:35,045
But realistically our parks aren't unfortunately

898
00:44:35,195 --> 00:44:36,325
used that heavily.

899
00:44:36,895 --> 00:44:38,925
Right. They're not, they're not overrun And I think

900
00:44:38,925 --> 00:44:42,565
that's one of the reasons they kind of have a flow of kind

901
00:44:42,565 --> 00:44:45,045
of overlapping is so the whole area is used.

902
00:44:45,655 --> 00:44:47,365
Right. Because it's not going to be,

903
00:44:48,545 --> 00:44:51,885
you're not gonna have 25 disc golf

904
00:44:52,655 --> 00:44:54,725
teams out there or players

905
00:44:55,425 --> 00:44:57,085
All time who might host a a tournament.

906
00:44:57,215 --> 00:44:58,365
Don't you say anything only,

907
00:44:58,365 --> 00:45:00,485
Only if you have a tournament don't you say on an average

908
00:45:00,705 --> 00:45:02,245
day you'll have five

909
00:45:02,265 --> 00:45:05,045
to 10 out at the same time right out there.

910
00:45:05,145 --> 00:45:09,205
And so it'll be very like this is very passive use. Agreed.

911
00:45:09,795 --> 00:45:14,325
Yeah. So they got

912
00:45:14,325 --> 00:45:15,885
that one trail going over into the

913
00:45:16,575 --> 00:45:19,285
Grand River Plaza property owners.

914
00:45:19,545 --> 00:45:20,805
Is there an agreement with them?

915
00:45:22,015 --> 00:45:23,015
No. Okay.

916
00:45:24,495 --> 00:45:24,915
Not yet.

917
00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:32,955
Isn't that intersect with something that they're

918
00:45:33,695 --> 00:45:35,875
We have to, that's some of the feedback I have is this

919
00:45:35,875 --> 00:45:40,595
wasn't on the original concept so

920
00:45:41,935 --> 00:45:45,315
I'm, I'm concerned about showing it if it's,

921
00:45:45,665 --> 00:45:46,955
there's not something already there.

922
00:45:47,175 --> 00:45:49,235
So that's feedback that I'm planning to give them.

923
00:45:49,585 --> 00:45:53,595
Okay. What's the timeframe on a project like

924
00:45:53,595 --> 00:45:55,595
this? Do you have any idea?

925
00:45:56,305 --> 00:45:58,235
Next steps are construction documents

926
00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:00,875
and those can happen similar to Birch

927
00:46:00,875 --> 00:46:03,675
where we do master planning construction documents

928
00:46:03,675 --> 00:46:05,195
and build all within three years.

929
00:46:05,495 --> 00:46:07,555
Or it could be that this gets put on the shelf

930
00:46:07,555 --> 00:46:10,395
because it's not as high of priority as other projects

931
00:46:11,015 --> 00:46:14,995
and it might be five to 10, it might be 20.

932
00:46:14,995 --> 00:46:19,315
Similar to we got Birch Park first time the two thousands

933
00:46:19,335 --> 00:46:20,675
and now we're just building it out.

934
00:46:20,735 --> 00:46:22,355
So it really depends on

935
00:46:22,595 --> 00:46:24,435
where it fits within the priority list

936
00:46:24,575 --> 00:46:25,995
and funding. Funding.

937
00:46:26,255 --> 00:46:28,475
Yep. But Birch was based off like a

938
00:46:28,475 --> 00:46:29,515
growth trajectory, right?

939
00:46:29,515 --> 00:46:32,035
Where it's like there's too many people in this area now not

940
00:46:32,035 --> 00:46:33,155
to have a parks facility

941
00:46:33,155 --> 00:46:35,795
because of the growth in in the ment.

942
00:46:35,795 --> 00:46:39,515
I think it's always been identified as a priority

943
00:46:39,575 --> 00:46:41,315
and then as those houses starting

944
00:46:41,435 --> 00:46:43,835
to get built out is when this board

945
00:46:43,935 --> 00:46:47,395
and staff started saying like, Hey it might be time to

946
00:46:48,195 --> 00:46:49,195
actually move forward with this.

947
00:46:50,135 --> 00:46:52,875
So, and we're already saying that there is a need

948
00:46:53,055 --> 00:46:55,635
for a park on the south side of town so there's a,

949
00:46:55,985 --> 00:46:58,235
that it could be done faster than 10 or 20 years

950
00:46:58,555 --> 00:46:59,555
I guess.

951
00:46:59,555 --> 00:47:00,395
Correct. It all just depends on priority.

952
00:47:00,395 --> 00:47:02,635
Like there is, there is housing over there.

953
00:47:04,255 --> 00:47:07,555
It is not growing as fast as it is on like 16th Street

954
00:47:07,575 --> 00:47:08,715
but there is housing over there

955
00:47:08,715 --> 00:47:10,275
and there's more developments that are looking

956
00:47:10,275 --> 00:47:11,275
to put housing over there.

957
00:47:11,415 --> 00:47:13,115
So this is where those,

958
00:47:13,355 --> 00:47:15,515
But this also gives us just a, like you said,

959
00:47:15,715 --> 00:47:20,635
a passive open space that we really don't have inside rifle.

960
00:47:20,705 --> 00:47:21,705
Correct.

961
00:47:22,295 --> 00:47:23,475
Island trails

962
00:47:23,535 --> 00:47:24,535
But Yep.

963
00:47:24,575 --> 00:47:26,915
We, we, we do have, we have trails but we don't have

964
00:47:27,625 --> 00:47:29,685
Just I disc golf course.

965
00:47:30,195 --> 00:47:31,195
Yeah, exactly.

966
00:47:32,385 --> 00:47:34,085
And I can read between the lines Danny,

967
00:47:34,105 --> 00:47:35,885
The next, the next step of the process

968
00:47:36,025 --> 00:47:37,565
as well is looking at phasing plans.

969
00:47:37,705 --> 00:47:41,005
So really looking to you all for guidance of

970
00:47:41,005 --> 00:47:44,165
what your opinions are on like a phased

971
00:47:44,325 --> 00:47:45,365
approach of what you'd like to see.

972
00:47:45,365 --> 00:47:48,045
First we did it with Birch a little bit of,

973
00:47:48,145 --> 00:47:49,685
we phased it into three phases

974
00:47:49,685 --> 00:47:53,485
and then we decided when we went out for a bid

975
00:47:53,485 --> 00:47:55,045
that we wanted to build all of it.

976
00:47:55,145 --> 00:47:58,485
So, but we'll start to do a phase plan

977
00:47:59,265 --> 00:48:01,485
if you all have opinions on what you'd like to see first.

978
00:48:01,705 --> 00:48:05,125
So examples would be like parking lot, pit, toilet,

979
00:48:06,115 --> 00:48:10,245
pavilions phase one 'cause that's the entry to your park.

980
00:48:10,465 --> 00:48:12,485
And then you can go from there

981
00:48:12,485 --> 00:48:15,725
and check off this list of like what do you want to see in

982
00:48:16,255 --> 00:48:18,045
phase one versus phase two.

983
00:48:18,865 --> 00:48:19,925
Is there a phase three?

984
00:48:20,785 --> 00:48:25,165
And then that helps us prioritize when we start to go

985
00:48:25,185 --> 00:48:26,445
for construction documents.

986
00:48:27,145 --> 00:48:29,725
We could do construction documents for just phase one

987
00:48:29,745 --> 00:48:31,965
or do we do all of the, the documents

988
00:48:31,985 --> 00:48:33,525
and then only build phase one.

989
00:48:33,745 --> 00:48:35,085
So these are the conversations

990
00:48:35,085 --> 00:48:36,285
that we're gonna have to start having.

991
00:48:37,395 --> 00:48:39,045
Well and I think with Birch Park it made sense

992
00:48:40,105 --> 00:48:41,445
to not do the phases

993
00:48:41,445 --> 00:48:44,005
because concrete was getting so expensive

994
00:48:44,425 --> 00:48:46,925
and so it's like, oh well if we wait two more years

995
00:48:47,555 --> 00:48:49,645
then we're gonna have 20% more costs.

996
00:48:50,225 --> 00:48:53,125
And it could be, and it was another example of Right

997
00:48:53,715 --> 00:48:56,805
Deerfield and the sidewalk's not being done for 26 years.

998
00:48:56,805 --> 00:48:58,405
Right. So things like that.

999
00:48:58,745 --> 00:49:02,685
So where we build a park out porch halfway or in a phase

1000
00:49:02,705 --> 00:49:05,205
and then the other phase doesn't happen for 20 years.

1001
00:49:06,345 --> 00:49:08,445
And have we already talked to Grand River about private

1002
00:49:08,595 --> 00:49:10,245
support for this because

1003
00:49:11,435 --> 00:49:13,325
It's so close to their facility?

1004
00:49:13,625 --> 00:49:15,205
Yes. They were part of the stakeholder group.

1005
00:49:15,565 --> 00:49:17,325
They haven't committed any funds, they're supportive

1006
00:49:17,325 --> 00:49:20,685
of the project 'cause it gives their, their staff is space

1007
00:49:20,685 --> 00:49:23,085
to go and on their lunch break and Yeah,

1008
00:49:23,165 --> 00:49:25,605
I mean I remember you said they were okay with having it

1009
00:49:25,625 --> 00:49:27,845
but they didn't say like, this is gonna be amazing

1010
00:49:27,945 --> 00:49:29,045
for everyone in our hospital.

1011
00:49:29,095 --> 00:49:30,325
We'll give you $1 million.

1012
00:49:30,945 --> 00:49:32,205
So they have, they have not, didn't

1013
00:49:32,205 --> 00:49:33,045
Say that they have not

1014
00:49:33,045 --> 00:49:34,405
Committed. They not committed any

1015
00:49:34,405 --> 00:49:35,405
Funds.

1016
00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:37,405
I love how you put things. I think

1017
00:49:38,045 --> 00:49:40,285
Clancy's gonna do some talking. Yeah

1018
00:49:40,445 --> 00:49:41,725
I wear that hat.

1019
00:49:41,925 --> 00:49:44,245
I identified myself as a public private.

1020
00:49:45,115 --> 00:49:46,325
Yeah I know an insider.

1021
00:49:47,945 --> 00:49:49,165
So I don't know if you guys have

1022
00:49:49,365 --> 00:49:50,405
feedback on what you'd like to see.

1023
00:49:51,185 --> 00:49:52,525
If, for example,

1024
00:49:52,595 --> 00:49:54,205
like I don't think we need a 10,000

1025
00:49:54,205 --> 00:49:55,285
square foot playground over there.

1026
00:49:55,305 --> 00:49:58,685
So some of my feedback is make that smaller and

1027
00:49:59,675 --> 00:50:01,285
Well and that that's a good point

1028
00:50:01,285 --> 00:50:04,005
because that's just more maintenance.

1029
00:50:04,005 --> 00:50:05,245
Correct. I

1030
00:50:05,245 --> 00:50:08,245
Don't know about the outdoor fitness stations, like

1031
00:50:08,265 --> 00:50:09,605
how high priority that

1032
00:50:09,605 --> 00:50:10,605
Would be.

1033
00:50:13,925 --> 00:50:16,105
But it'd be nice to have if it's not expensive.

1034
00:50:17,205 --> 00:50:19,185
You know what I mean? Just

1035
00:50:19,185 --> 00:50:20,585
Like or one of those from deciding

1036
00:50:20,585 --> 00:50:21,905
that I think aren't Yeah.

1037
00:50:22,495 --> 00:50:26,545
Yeah. But I just, It I,

1038
00:50:26,585 --> 00:50:28,365
I mean I get the question like is it needed?

1039
00:50:28,545 --> 00:50:30,605
Is it needed? Especially out there.

1040
00:50:32,445 --> 00:50:33,965
I like to see them at more in a

1041
00:50:34,765 --> 00:50:36,045
concentrated area that's covered.

1042
00:50:36,185 --> 00:50:38,845
That's where I've been to ones that have utilized them.

1043
00:50:42,175 --> 00:50:44,955
Really. I've only seen them on like walking trails

1044
00:50:44,955 --> 00:50:46,035
and then it'll make, this is

1045
00:50:46,035 --> 00:50:47,795
where you do five pullups. This is

1046
00:50:47,795 --> 00:50:50,235
A Yeah like sporadically put out

1047
00:50:52,175 --> 00:50:53,275
The One that used

1048
00:50:54,955 --> 00:50:57,715
A matted floor and then have a cover over them.

1049
00:50:58,195 --> 00:51:00,995
I mean kind of ritzy but

1050
00:51:02,415 --> 00:51:05,355
So is it, is that something that I am is needed?

1051
00:51:05,955 --> 00:51:07,875
I dunno if we don't have any workout equipment inside

1052
00:51:07,875 --> 00:51:09,835
of our field house, maybe we have to put it outside.

1053
00:51:10,335 --> 00:51:11,675
That's a true Story.

1054
00:51:11,825 --> 00:51:14,275
Well there's that one part in sil thinking

1055
00:51:14,415 --> 00:51:15,675
and it's like sporadic.

1056
00:51:15,675 --> 00:51:18,675
Here's a sit up bar, here's a pull up bar, here's, here's,

1057
00:51:19,155 --> 00:51:20,155
Here's A wrestling mat,

1058
00:51:20,735 --> 00:51:23,275
Here's a wrestling mat, it's store em.

1059
00:51:26,875 --> 00:51:28,075
I think the play the playground.

1060
00:51:28,955 --> 00:51:30,995
I, I don't even do we need

1061
00:51:34,045 --> 00:51:35,045
A Playground?

1062
00:51:35,045 --> 00:51:35,285
There's a going over There. Yeah, I was gonna

1063
00:51:35,285 --> 00:51:36,125
say we're saying that

1064
00:51:36,125 --> 00:51:37,125
Big, Big.

1065
00:51:37,125 --> 00:51:38,725
Yeah there's a lot of housing going up over there now.

1066
00:51:40,185 --> 00:51:42,605
One metal but One that's the size of Birch Park.

1067
00:51:42,745 --> 00:51:45,885
Oh no, no. Not that big. No. Yeah it seems a little large.

1068
00:51:45,985 --> 00:51:47,965
We can get, we can go definitely small like

1069
00:51:48,265 --> 00:51:49,485
Arnold Austin was saying

1070
00:51:50,195 --> 00:51:51,205
Like Arnold size.

1071
00:51:51,635 --> 00:51:53,405
Yeah. And you can yeah. Make a park. Park.

1072
00:51:54,225 --> 00:51:55,805
That's A little big. Right.

1073
00:51:56,365 --> 00:51:58,565
I like the boulderings structure. Yeah,

1074
00:51:58,925 --> 00:52:00,045
I think that's a really useful,

1075
00:52:00,755 --> 00:52:01,845
Something we don't have

1076
00:52:02,105 --> 00:52:05,325
In the bouldering structures is kind of similar

1077
00:52:05,325 --> 00:52:06,445
to what nature play would be.

1078
00:52:06,495 --> 00:52:07,805
Which would be right in this area.

1079
00:52:08,155 --> 00:52:11,805
Okay. The, I guess I'm a little confused on

1080
00:52:11,805 --> 00:52:14,445
where this archery range proposal area it would be,

1081
00:52:14,475 --> 00:52:15,765
It's like right by the parking lot. Okay

1082
00:52:16,315 --> 00:52:17,315
Cool.

1083
00:52:18,315 --> 00:52:21,125
It's right by the kid twice before its the kids.

1084
00:52:22,625 --> 00:52:24,165
We don't even have to bring up targets.

1085
00:52:26,715 --> 00:52:30,765
Four like Apples

1086
00:52:31,995 --> 00:52:33,485
Have apples you can put on their heads.

1087
00:52:37,355 --> 00:52:40,005
What would it, what in your opinion, what do you think

1088
00:52:41,525 --> 00:52:42,805
a phased approach would even

1089
00:52:44,635 --> 00:52:45,635
Look like?

1090
00:52:45,635 --> 00:52:46,645
Like trails then pit toilet.

1091
00:52:47,145 --> 00:52:48,485
So you could do, I mean

1092
00:52:48,485 --> 00:52:49,685
you're just working your way out.

1093
00:52:50,425 --> 00:52:51,685
It doesn't necessarily have to be that way.

1094
00:52:51,685 --> 00:52:54,605
Like you could go in and phase one puts in all the trails,

1095
00:52:56,075 --> 00:53:00,085
parking lot pavilions, pit toilet, phase two could be

1096
00:53:01,625 --> 00:53:04,815
disc golf, the bike park

1097
00:53:05,995 --> 00:53:09,535
and the nature play. So those types of things.

1098
00:53:10,035 --> 00:53:12,535
And all the extra manmade stuff less correct.

1099
00:53:12,755 --> 00:53:16,775
So really if you're going to do disc golf,

1100
00:53:16,775 --> 00:53:18,095
then you have to include the trails.

1101
00:53:18,175 --> 00:53:19,655
'cause you have to have the trails to get to disc golf.

1102
00:53:19,655 --> 00:53:22,695
Right. Right. But you could do the trails in phase one

1103
00:53:22,715 --> 00:53:24,775
and build disc golf out later.

1104
00:53:25,015 --> 00:53:26,765
Right. So those are the things

1105
00:53:26,825 --> 00:53:28,605
to think about in your phased approach.

1106
00:53:30,025 --> 00:53:33,845
You may identify only certain trails in phase one versus

1107
00:53:33,855 --> 00:53:35,525
phase two or three.

1108
00:53:39,285 --> 00:53:40,865
Is there a need for another dog park?

1109
00:53:40,865 --> 00:53:43,545
That's a question it was highly saw

1110
00:53:43,545 --> 00:53:45,225
after in the survey results.

1111
00:53:45,825 --> 00:53:48,625
And so it'd be a different style of dog park where

1112
00:53:48,625 --> 00:53:49,625
It went at.

1113
00:53:49,625 --> 00:53:52,025
Would it just be dog friendly trails? Could or would you,

1114
00:53:53,225 --> 00:53:55,465
I think the survey showed that people wanted

1115
00:53:56,695 --> 00:53:58,505
like a true dog park.

1116
00:53:58,935 --> 00:54:01,105
What does that mean? Like fenced in.

1117
00:54:01,205 --> 00:54:02,625
Fenced in three sections similar

1118
00:54:02,625 --> 00:54:03,785
to what we have at Deerfield

1119
00:54:05,975 --> 00:54:07,865
With a dog library with that.

1120
00:54:08,015 --> 00:54:12,185
With a dog library, yes. Important. Hmm.

1121
00:54:14,615 --> 00:54:17,705
Yeah I, I definitely think that, you know, like

1122
00:54:17,975 --> 00:54:18,985
what we could get to

1123
00:54:19,925 --> 00:54:22,225
or what we need to get this as a useful space.

1124
00:54:22,805 --> 00:54:26,625
You know, just parking areas I think, you know,

1125
00:54:26,625 --> 00:54:28,705
the pit toilets is definitely something to,

1126
00:54:29,165 --> 00:54:30,185
you know, be a part of that.

1127
00:54:30,725 --> 00:54:33,105
But certainly like if we have trail alignment

1128
00:54:33,165 --> 00:54:36,905
and trail construction then you know that that's one

1129
00:54:36,905 --> 00:54:39,345
of the quickest ways to make it a useful space for

1130
00:54:39,345 --> 00:54:42,705
that community for that upcoming neighborhood.

1131
00:54:42,705 --> 00:54:43,785
Access as well. Access. Yeah.

1132
00:54:46,085 --> 00:54:48,865
You know I definitely think the disc golf could be,

1133
00:54:48,885 --> 00:54:51,705
you know, kind of a phase two further down the line

1134
00:54:52,275 --> 00:54:54,425
while I wanna see a mountain bike skills park there,

1135
00:54:54,685 --> 00:54:56,105
you know, sooner rather than later.

1136
00:54:56,385 --> 00:54:57,945
I I do think that would fit better

1137
00:54:58,005 --> 00:55:00,065
as a second phase type project.

1138
00:55:01,135 --> 00:55:03,225
Well and the other thing is, is you're on that side

1139
00:55:03,485 --> 00:55:05,465
and you do have i 70 travelers.

1140
00:55:09,135 --> 00:55:10,395
Not that that's what this is for,

1141
00:55:10,575 --> 00:55:12,435
but But if you had signage

1142
00:55:12,435 --> 00:55:14,195
that was like dog park walking area,

1143
00:55:17,175 --> 00:55:19,875
is there ways we could charge travelers to use our park?

1144
00:55:20,965 --> 00:55:25,675
Would there be an entry fee for non rifle citizens? No,

1145
00:55:27,195 --> 00:55:28,795
There's A to road to get

1146
00:55:31,015 --> 00:55:35,555
To put in perspective kind

1147
00:55:35,555 --> 00:55:37,955
of total project build out will be

1148
00:55:38,185 --> 00:55:39,355
Parking permits.

1149
00:55:39,625 --> 00:55:42,475
Roughly 2.5 to 3 million. Enjoy

1150
00:55:42,475 --> 00:55:44,155
All this for free but you have to pay for

1151
00:55:44,155 --> 00:55:45,155
Parking.

1152
00:55:45,155 --> 00:55:45,915
About 1.1 million of

1153
00:55:45,915 --> 00:55:48,275
that is just in the 10,000 square foot playground.

1154
00:55:48,655 --> 00:55:51,035
Wow. So playgrounds are expensive. X

1155
00:55:51,035 --> 00:55:52,475
They are to do it right.

1156
00:55:52,535 --> 00:55:54,875
Put a pocket one in just a cute little one.

1157
00:55:55,335 --> 00:55:56,995
And so like thinking out loud,

1158
00:55:57,665 --> 00:56:00,195
like the trails at full build out

1159
00:56:00,885 --> 00:56:02,075
about half a million dollars.

1160
00:56:03,085 --> 00:56:05,795
Right. Disc golf $27,000.

1161
00:56:06,415 --> 00:56:09,035
See I'm cheap. Cheap. So like putting price tags

1162
00:56:09,035 --> 00:56:12,915
to these, the mountain bike skills park about $50,000.

1163
00:56:15,545 --> 00:56:18,315
Your your pavilions picnic tables grills

1164
00:56:19,045 --> 00:56:20,355
about a hundred thousand dollars.

1165
00:56:21,155 --> 00:56:23,525
A venture play about $2,000.

1166
00:56:25,595 --> 00:56:27,445
Your playground's, the 1.1 million

1167
00:56:29,105 --> 00:56:30,925
nature plays about half a million dollars.

1168
00:56:32,025 --> 00:56:35,285
The outdoor fitness is $45,000 roughly.

1169
00:56:35,865 --> 00:56:37,765
Dog parks about $130,000.

1170
00:56:39,835 --> 00:56:43,805
Your bouldering structures 77,000.

1171
00:56:44,745 --> 00:56:47,365
And then interpretive signage is 2000.

1172
00:56:48,115 --> 00:56:50,005
Archery range 140,000.

1173
00:56:51,025 --> 00:56:55,965
And then the parking area, which would not include asphalt

1174
00:56:56,585 --> 00:56:59,765
25 whatcha paying for.

1175
00:56:59,785 --> 00:57:02,445
So just to put like price tags in your head of what,

1176
00:57:02,665 --> 00:57:06,245
as we're talking about a phased approach, what that could be

1177
00:57:07,385 --> 00:57:08,845
Is the archery range expensive?

1178
00:57:09,005 --> 00:57:10,925
'cause it's the dirt work to like level it.

1179
00:57:10,925 --> 00:57:12,125
Like why is that so much?

1180
00:57:14,055 --> 00:57:15,165
Lemme get back to The,

1181
00:57:15,235 --> 00:57:17,125
it's the liability insurance. Maybe

1182
00:57:17,185 --> 00:57:18,185
That's real.

1183
00:57:19,065 --> 00:57:21,165
It just says infrastructure and install.

1184
00:57:21,165 --> 00:57:23,365
So it's going into the, there'd be a lot of dirt work in

1185
00:57:23,365 --> 00:57:24,965
that area 'cause it's in the side of the mountain.

1186
00:57:26,725 --> 00:57:28,045
Wouldn't dynamite be

1187
00:57:28,165 --> 00:57:29,165
Involved?

1188
00:57:29,165 --> 00:57:30,925
It seem like disproportionately big for like a flat area.

1189
00:57:31,595 --> 00:57:33,325
It's not flat where It's like a big wall

1190
00:57:33,325 --> 00:57:34,805
that you're building of dirt behind it.

1191
00:57:35,395 --> 00:57:37,445
Well there's already a big wall but making it,

1192
00:57:38,435 --> 00:57:39,765
They're gonna take the hill down.

1193
00:57:39,995 --> 00:57:40,995
Yeah,

1194
00:57:43,065 --> 00:57:45,565
But there's lots of grants with CPW for

1195
00:57:46,305 --> 00:57:47,305
Yes.

1196
00:57:47,305 --> 00:57:49,645
Arche ranges. There are, they're very excited about those.

1197
00:57:50,345 --> 00:57:53,565
And girls wrestling. Put some mats out. No.

1198
00:57:53,565 --> 00:57:55,405
Could we do girls wrestling out here?

1199
00:57:58,595 --> 00:58:02,005
Okay, that's actually like a really small, I mean

1200
00:58:02,185 --> 00:58:04,885
for the amount of space you're getting,

1201
00:58:05,275 --> 00:58:06,605
it's a very small price tag

1202
00:58:07,505 --> 00:58:08,505
To put it.

1203
00:58:08,505 --> 00:58:09,485
Like And you're spending almost five grand

1204
00:58:09,485 --> 00:58:10,565
Scholarships for that.

1205
00:58:10,595 --> 00:58:12,085
Yeah, five. And so for five

1206
00:58:12,085 --> 00:58:14,845
and a half acres, which is basically a playground,

1207
00:58:14,935 --> 00:58:18,045
pickleball, courts and a So baseball court,

1208
00:58:18,045 --> 00:58:19,045
Different utilization.

1209
00:58:20,105 --> 00:58:24,385
So like for a true park in town park

1210
00:58:24,495 --> 00:58:25,545
with park amenities,

1211
00:58:26,415 --> 00:58:28,465
this would be considered more of an open space.

1212
00:58:28,565 --> 00:58:31,065
Yep. To where it's very passive use. I like

1213
00:58:31,065 --> 00:58:32,065
It.

1214
00:58:32,065 --> 00:58:32,985
These are the kind of places I

1215
00:58:32,985 --> 00:58:33,705
Like. Yep.

1216
00:58:34,445 --> 00:58:38,985
So parking lot, pit toilet, pavilion, trails.

1217
00:58:39,625 --> 00:58:44,505
Anything else in phase one that you see on this list

1218
00:58:44,655 --> 00:58:47,105
that you might want to throw in there?

1219
00:58:47,325 --> 00:58:50,305
Put everything else in phase two.

1220
00:58:50,655 --> 00:58:52,225
Like what are you all thinking?

1221
00:58:54,985 --> 00:58:58,945
I mean if you took the, if we took out the playground,

1222
00:59:00,595 --> 00:59:03,395
I mean I feel like we could get funding,

1223
00:59:03,565 --> 00:59:06,875
whole funding all the funding quickly

1224
00:59:07,665 --> 00:59:09,715
quicker than even phasing it.

1225
00:59:10,125 --> 00:59:12,955
Right. What was the full build cost?

1226
00:59:13,925 --> 00:59:16,795
3 million. Two and a half to 3 million. So

1227
00:59:16,795 --> 00:59:17,795
Half it playground.

1228
00:59:17,795 --> 00:59:19,955
But 1.1 is the half of it is playground. Is playground.

1229
00:59:20,135 --> 00:59:23,685
The whole thing I could

1230
00:59:23,745 --> 00:59:25,325
buy, I could buy you swing set.

1231
00:59:25,585 --> 00:59:27,485
And that could be, that could be your

1232
00:59:27,485 --> 00:59:28,645
phase two as playground, right?

1233
00:59:29,165 --> 00:59:30,205
Absolutely. Right. Exactly.

1234
00:59:30,665 --> 00:59:32,325
You build everything out else Out

1235
00:59:32,465 --> 00:59:33,565
and then playground And then we

1236
00:59:33,565 --> 00:59:34,685
built the playground later out.

1237
00:59:35,165 --> 00:59:38,045
I mean if we did do two phases in playgrounds, three

1238
00:59:38,345 --> 00:59:41,485
or whatever, like for sure trails in a parking lot

1239
00:59:41,595 --> 00:59:42,725
have to be there first.

1240
00:59:42,725 --> 00:59:43,885
Right. Low lowest.

1241
00:59:44,475 --> 00:59:46,525
Yeah, I know but if we take the parking lot out,

1242
00:59:46,645 --> 00:59:50,405
I mean we're 2 million is is what we would have

1243
00:59:51,065 --> 00:59:52,685
to put the all of it together.

1244
00:59:53,315 --> 00:59:55,165
There's lots of non-motorized trail grants.

1245
00:59:55,165 --> 00:59:56,685
Like there's lots of grants out there for

1246
00:59:57,115 --> 00:59:58,115
Yeah.

1247
00:59:58,235 --> 01:00:00,565
This kind of stuff Is the completely doable.

1248
01:00:02,275 --> 01:00:04,885
What are we talking about realistically timeframe?

1249
01:00:05,005 --> 01:00:06,605
I know you don't know everything but,

1250
01:00:06,785 --> 01:00:09,165
So next steps like if this is a high priority for

1251
01:00:10,985 --> 01:00:13,365
you all is to start looking at putting construction

1252
01:00:13,605 --> 01:00:16,765
documents in the budget for next year

1253
01:00:17,395 --> 01:00:20,005
because we need construction documents

1254
01:00:20,305 --> 01:00:21,725
and shovel already for a lot

1255
01:00:21,725 --> 01:00:23,165
of the grants that we'd want to go for.

1256
01:00:23,305 --> 01:00:25,125
And so that's the next step in the process.

1257
01:00:25,915 --> 01:00:27,525
Well and do you, sorry, go

1258
01:00:27,525 --> 01:00:28,525
Ahead.

1259
01:00:28,525 --> 01:00:29,445
I was just gonna say, what are the grant cycles?

1260
01:00:29,445 --> 01:00:31,405
Are they annually, are they twice a year

1261
01:00:31,625 --> 01:00:32,925
for a lot of these? Like the

1262
01:00:33,195 --> 01:00:35,005
Archery ranges Two years. Yeah.

1263
01:00:35,595 --> 01:00:37,245
Once every two years or twice a year.

1264
01:00:37,465 --> 01:00:38,725
Cut off in three days. Yep.

1265
01:00:39,245 --> 01:00:40,245
So we won't, we won't make that

1266
01:00:40,695 --> 01:00:41,695
Won't be two years out.

1267
01:00:43,145 --> 01:00:46,365
But some of them are like GOCO has two cycles.

1268
01:00:47,805 --> 01:00:51,445
I think CPW for the trails grant has two cycles so

1269
01:00:52,435 --> 01:00:53,605
they kind of ebb and flow.

1270
01:00:55,145 --> 01:00:57,325
But we have a grant lady and she's amazing.

1271
01:00:57,585 --> 01:00:59,085
We have a whole grant. Like we have a whole

1272
01:00:59,475 --> 01:01:00,475
Team.

1273
01:01:00,475 --> 01:01:01,075
Yeah.

1274
01:01:02,255 --> 01:01:03,435
So archery may have

1275
01:01:03,435 --> 01:01:05,755
to go on phase two just for timing issues.

1276
01:01:06,415 --> 01:01:07,555
For funding you mean? Yeah, funding

1277
01:01:07,615 --> 01:01:09,035
For funding and timing that way.

1278
01:01:09,605 --> 01:01:12,355
Which they're, they'll have to be city match of some sort.

1279
01:01:12,495 --> 01:01:14,635
So that could be the city's match as well.

1280
01:01:14,695 --> 01:01:19,385
Oh yeah, that's true. Because most grants have a match.

1281
01:01:19,385 --> 01:01:20,585
25% match

1282
01:01:20,695 --> 01:01:21,695
Somewhere.

1283
01:01:21,695 --> 01:01:25,025
Well and I also think I just from a perspective

1284
01:01:25,045 --> 01:01:28,185
of a community, like look what we could offer them

1285
01:01:29,445 --> 01:01:31,825
for less money than, than Birch.

1286
01:01:34,365 --> 01:01:36,545
And not that everybody knows all those things,

1287
01:01:36,765 --> 01:01:39,345
but they would be like, oh my gosh, look how huge this,

1288
01:01:39,455 --> 01:01:43,905
this park is that we didn't have to have taxes raised for.

1289
01:01:45,245 --> 01:01:47,105
And it's a different demographic abuser too.

1290
01:01:47,175 --> 01:01:48,175
Yeah, for sure.

1291
01:01:48,965 --> 01:01:52,985
Yep. And it all falls into your priority list

1292
01:01:53,245 --> 01:01:57,345
and your strategic plan, which will start

1293
01:01:57,495 --> 01:01:59,065
that process next time

1294
01:02:00,125 --> 01:02:01,225
Before in May.

1295
01:02:01,225 --> 01:02:02,425
Well the money we were gonna use

1296
01:02:02,425 --> 01:02:03,625
to fix the tennis courts we don't need.

1297
01:02:03,745 --> 01:02:05,865
'cause you're gonna put a field house on top

1298
01:02:05,865 --> 01:02:07,985
of 'em some money there,

1299
01:02:09,925 --> 01:02:12,785
So, so Are you guys gonna be able

1300
01:02:12,785 --> 01:02:17,025
to ac access this in like a side by side

1301
01:02:17,025 --> 01:02:18,705
or something for trash or

1302
01:02:20,125 --> 01:02:21,785
You mean the maintenance people? Yeah,

1303
01:02:22,575 --> 01:02:24,705
Like for cleanup along the trails and

1304
01:02:26,465 --> 01:02:27,465
I don't know.

1305
01:02:27,465 --> 01:02:30,345
Well for, could that be adopt a trail too? Right? Yeah,

1306
01:02:30,345 --> 01:02:31,345
That's a good point.

1307
01:02:31,345 --> 01:02:32,705
It could be adopt a trail. I'm sure

1308
01:02:33,215 --> 01:02:35,625
when we're talking about trail building it, if

1309
01:02:35,625 --> 01:02:38,985
that was a desire during the design of construction,

1310
01:02:39,325 --> 01:02:41,985
you could design the trails to be wide enough to get

1311
01:02:42,115 --> 01:02:44,105
Grand River clearly should adopt that trail.

1312
01:02:45,165 --> 01:02:48,625
Or you buy an e-bike with a, with a trailer on it

1313
01:02:48,685 --> 01:02:49,705
and allow someone,

1314
01:02:49,845 --> 01:02:51,585
Or you buy a dirt bike for Keith,

1315
01:02:54,115 --> 01:02:57,425
which Keith now I know now two dirt bike,

1316
01:02:57,885 --> 01:02:59,305
two dirt bikes for both kids. We have

1317
01:02:59,305 --> 01:03:00,305
Two keys.

1318
01:03:00,305 --> 01:03:00,985
We both take it to worry about.

1319
01:03:05,945 --> 01:03:09,065
I I think this is An

1320
01:03:09,065 --> 01:03:10,065
Easy Yes.

1321
01:03:10,065 --> 01:03:12,705
Completely durable. Yeah, I I, I agree. An easy yes. The

1322
01:03:12,705 --> 01:03:14,985
Way that they are building housing over there now,

1323
01:03:15,455 --> 01:03:16,455
It's A lot.

1324
01:03:17,175 --> 01:03:18,705
Kind of does bump it up a

1325
01:03:18,705 --> 01:03:19,705
Little bit.

1326
01:03:19,705 --> 01:03:21,345
We something over there which we don't have. Right.

1327
01:03:21,345 --> 01:03:24,825
Which is huge. I like the way you framed it

1328
01:03:24,825 --> 01:03:26,145
with the I 70 traffic too.

1329
01:03:26,225 --> 01:03:28,145
I wonder if you can get support from like

1330
01:03:28,695 --> 01:03:31,785
visitor grant things within the city or money from that.

1331
01:03:31,925 --> 01:03:36,225
Is that a real thing? Visitor improvement

1332
01:03:37,755 --> 01:03:39,665
money or he take some of that?

1333
01:03:39,935 --> 01:03:41,025
Well look into that.

1334
01:03:43,815 --> 01:03:46,065
Yeah. He's like, yeah, it's a thing.

1335
01:03:47,445 --> 01:03:51,185
I'm just, I'm brainstorming spit balling here. Yeah.

1336
01:03:51,945 --> 01:03:54,625
I start encouraging the lobbying tax increase.

1337
01:03:56,085 --> 01:03:59,145
Yes. Any other feedback

1338
01:03:59,325 --> 01:04:01,705
on South Rifle?

1339
01:04:03,005 --> 01:04:05,265
Do you need a decision phase one? Do it all from

1340
01:04:05,265 --> 01:04:06,025
Us. Phase one,

1341
01:04:06,545 --> 01:04:07,545
I say two phase.

1342
01:04:07,545 --> 01:04:08,665
I have a general idea, playground

1343
01:04:08,885 --> 01:04:09,885
Phased approach.

1344
01:04:09,885 --> 01:04:12,105
So Okay. I'll take that to them

1345
01:04:12,285 --> 01:04:14,585
and have them do the phase approach

1346
01:04:14,725 --> 01:04:17,905
and then they'll, we'll come back to you.

1347
01:04:18,765 --> 01:04:19,865
But three is a playground,

1348
01:04:19,865 --> 01:04:21,025
but you have what you need from us today.

1349
01:04:21,335 --> 01:04:22,335
Okay.

1350
01:04:22,655 --> 01:04:23,785
Took notes. Do

1351
01:04:23,785 --> 01:04:25,345
We need to determine if this is high

1352
01:04:25,625 --> 01:04:27,345
priority at this time? No,

1353
01:04:27,455 --> 01:04:29,985
That'll come during your Coming up.

1354
01:04:29,985 --> 01:04:30,985
Real strategic planning.

1355
01:04:31,675 --> 01:04:34,025
Right. Coming up real soon. It

1356
01:04:34,025 --> 01:04:35,385
Really factor because they have to do theirs

1357
01:04:35,385 --> 01:04:36,465
first and funding.

1358
01:04:37,435 --> 01:04:40,465
Where else are we? Yeah, we Start strategic planning in

1359
01:04:41,125 --> 01:04:42,505
May because we're approaching the end

1360
01:04:42,505 --> 01:04:44,305
of useful life son. We'll have three

1361
01:04:44,305 --> 01:04:45,785
Different meetings, three months.

1362
01:04:46,835 --> 01:04:48,065
Those are the things we'll talk about

1363
01:04:49,125 --> 01:04:50,865
coming up in the next few meetings.

1364
01:04:51,495 --> 01:04:53,765
Okay. Okay.

1365
01:04:55,505 --> 01:04:58,765
Are we on to administrative reports? So

1366
01:05:03,605 --> 01:05:04,605
Yep.

1367
01:05:05,555 --> 01:05:08,425
Don't really have anything other than we're 13 days

1368
01:05:08,495 --> 01:05:09,585
into owning the golf course.

1369
01:05:10,095 --> 01:05:12,225
Woo-hoo. So that's been a process.

1370
01:05:13,495 --> 01:05:15,465
What has these 13 days looked like?

1371
01:05:16,015 --> 01:05:17,925
Well, it was terrible when we were there yesterday,

1372
01:05:17,995 --> 01:05:20,805
I'll just say that I joke, I was joking.

1373
01:05:21,045 --> 01:05:23,685
I was joking. Strike from the record. Yes.

1374
01:05:24,225 --> 01:05:26,405
I'm trying to learn golf course operations

1375
01:05:26,505 --> 01:05:29,405
and how they function and they're trying to learn

1376
01:05:29,505 --> 01:05:31,045
how we operate in our standards.

1377
01:05:31,065 --> 01:05:33,685
So we're working through the process right now.

1378
01:05:33,825 --> 01:05:36,365
We have an RFP out for irrigation design

1379
01:05:36,545 --> 01:05:37,885
for the new irrigation system.

1380
01:05:39,305 --> 01:05:40,485
So that is in the works.

1381
01:05:40,865 --> 01:05:45,125
And so you'll start hearing lots more about the golf course

1382
01:05:45,425 --> 01:05:48,605
as the advisory board to council for the golf course.

1383
01:05:51,555 --> 01:05:53,685
Cody Kawell, who's the general manager,

1384
01:05:53,955 --> 01:05:58,145
will come once a quarter starting next quarter at the end

1385
01:05:58,145 --> 01:06:00,905
of next quarter, and give kind of financial updates

1386
01:06:02,075 --> 01:06:06,145
where the golf course is sitting, any major needs

1387
01:06:06,165 --> 01:06:07,545
or repairs that are happening.

1388
01:06:07,605 --> 01:06:09,345
So he'll be able to give you a deep dive into that.

1389
01:06:10,965 --> 01:06:13,465
So we're working through that process right now. But

1390
01:06:13,685 --> 01:06:15,265
Are the positions like flown

1391
01:06:15,285 --> 01:06:18,225
and hiring started for the 'cause?

1392
01:06:18,225 --> 01:06:19,505
Then you have to like reopen all the

1393
01:06:19,665 --> 01:06:20,825
positions that, for the people that worked out

1394
01:06:20,825 --> 01:06:21,825
There.

1395
01:06:21,825 --> 01:06:22,945
All of our positions are full at the golf course except

1396
01:06:22,965 --> 01:06:25,825
for we need a couple more seasonals to work in the pro shop.

1397
01:06:26,605 --> 01:06:28,905
And is the lease for the restaurant renewed?

1398
01:06:29,865 --> 01:06:31,345
They're on an eight month term.

1399
01:06:32,015 --> 01:06:36,185
That'll expire December 31st if we don't provide them notice

1400
01:06:36,205 --> 01:06:37,705
at auto or news for three years.

1401
01:06:41,185 --> 01:06:43,705
I know I've talked to a few people about us acquiring this

1402
01:06:43,765 --> 01:06:45,465
and feedback was positive.

1403
01:06:46,545 --> 01:06:47,545
I thought that was a great idea.

1404
01:06:48,925 --> 01:06:53,705
So, and then we're just getting Keith

1405
01:06:53,765 --> 01:06:55,825
up to speed on operations

1406
01:06:55,965 --> 01:07:00,185
and kind of his role will be kind of taking parks

1407
01:07:00,185 --> 01:07:03,785
and rec operations and really focusing on that and helping

1408
01:07:04,005 --> 01:07:07,585
and supporting Keith Gray and Matt's

1409
01:07:08,485 --> 01:07:10,465
and then helping at the pool.

1410
01:07:10,705 --> 01:07:13,865
'cause he has a vast knowledge of pool operations.

1411
01:07:14,085 --> 01:07:16,985
So what are you gonna do now? Golf course.

1412
01:07:17,535 --> 01:07:18,625
Golf course. Playing

1413
01:07:18,625 --> 01:07:19,985
Golf all day. Golf course.

1414
01:07:20,485 --> 01:07:21,485
Yes. Yeah.

1415
01:07:22,245 --> 01:07:24,025
And then sign off on all the things he needs

1416
01:07:24,025 --> 01:07:25,465
to sign off on for everything else.

1417
01:07:26,125 --> 01:07:28,945
So you'll, you'll see some, some transitions

1418
01:07:28,945 --> 01:07:31,065
of him at your next couple meetings

1419
01:07:31,125 --> 01:07:32,425
of giving you updates on those.

1420
01:07:32,645 --> 01:07:34,505
And so,

1421
01:07:35,085 --> 01:07:40,065
and then Sarah is officially, she has a new job title again.

1422
01:07:42,205 --> 01:07:45,025
So she's hired as the parks admin assistant.

1423
01:07:45,165 --> 01:07:49,625
And then in that process, the admin assistant for admin,

1424
01:07:49,725 --> 01:07:51,585
so Pat and Alexis came open

1425
01:07:52,885 --> 01:07:55,665
and so we reduced our FTE by one

1426
01:07:55,765 --> 01:07:59,105
and Sarah's now supporting the city manager,

1427
01:07:59,245 --> 01:08:00,705
the city clerk, and then myself.

1428
01:08:01,165 --> 01:08:02,705
And so today is her first day

1429
01:08:03,165 --> 01:08:08,145
and that, so she'll be running all the board meetings for us

1430
01:08:08,325 --> 01:08:09,945
and then supporting Alexis in council

1431
01:08:09,945 --> 01:08:11,985
meetings and all those things.

1432
01:08:12,125 --> 01:08:14,185
So I can officially say she's

1433
01:08:15,265 --> 01:08:16,265
Not in HR anymore.

1434
01:08:16,315 --> 01:08:17,845
It's my first day. Yay.

1435
01:08:20,105 --> 01:08:23,725
So we're happy to have her too. Yes. Hey, keep me in line.

1436
01:08:26,705 --> 01:08:30,125
That's under other duties as a sign. Yes. Yes, I have.

1437
01:08:30,625 --> 01:08:33,885
Can answer any questions that you guys have or good to go.

1438
01:08:34,715 --> 01:08:37,615
Good, thank you. Okay, that's great.

1439
01:08:38,405 --> 01:08:40,335
Nothing else else.

1440
01:08:40,425 --> 01:08:45,055
Seven 18 according oh seven 19. Seven 17.

1441
01:08:45,215 --> 01:08:49,855
I don't know. Sarah, whatever you feel like riding seven 19

1442
01:08:50,475 --> 01:08:51,135
hit the gavel.