[0:00] September 2nd City council meeting, please stand
[0:03] for the Pledge of Allegiance.
[0:05] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[0:07] of the United States of America
[0:10] and to the republic for which it stands,
[0:13] one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
[0:17] and justice for all.
[0:19] Please remain standing for a moment of silence.
[0:27] Thank you.
[0:34] Roll call.
[0:36] Counselor Clancy. Here. Councillor Rice Here.
[0:40] Councilor Marsh? Here. Councilor Bhu. Here.
[0:43] Council Grassley. Yeah. Councilor Roberts. Here.
[0:45] Mayor Ha Setler here. Thank you.
[0:50] Public comment. Let me remind you that the maximum time
[0:53] for public comment is three minutes per person reserved
[0:57] for general comments or items on the agenda
[0:59] that are not a public hearing.
[1:01] Do we have any public comment tonight?
[1:05] No. Okay.
[1:08] Consent Agenda item five A consider minutes
[1:11] of August 19th, 2026, regular meeting item five B,
[1:16] consider liquor license renewal for Roaring Fort Grill LLC,
[1:20] doing business as Brickhouse pizzeria.
[1:23] Item five C, consider liquor license renewal for for
[1:26] loyal order of Moose Lodge number 1345, doing business
[1:31] as loyal order of Moose Lodge number 1345
[1:37] item five D consider amendment to chapter 16
[1:40] of the rifle municipal code for permitted a DU Zone.
[1:44] Districts. Ordinance number 16 series
[1:47] of 2026 on second reading item five E consider.
[1:54] I'm gonna pull that off, right.
[1:57] Which one? We're gonna pull item
[2:02] five E off the consent
[2:03] agenda. So
[2:08] I move to approve consent.
[2:10] Agenda items five A through five D
[2:13] I'll second.
[2:14] So good.
[2:16] We have a motion from Councillor Grassley
[2:17] and a second from Councillor Roberts
[2:19] to approve consent Agenda of items five A
[2:21] through five D Councillor Behold.
[2:24] I guess I'm confused on why we're not doing five C
[2:28] Five.
[2:29] It's gonna move to the re. It is gonna move
[2:30] to the regular agenda.
[2:33] Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Grassley. Yes.
[2:38] Councillor Rice. Yes. Councillor Roberts.
[2:41] Yes. Mayor Hostettler.
[2:43] Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes. Thank you.
[2:47] First Actions, if any on workshops.
[2:50] We had our second budget workshop
[2:54] tonight going over governmental funds.
[2:59] A lot of good discussion
[3:00] and we're just gonna keep moving
[3:03] forward on this budget thing.
[3:05] And then we also talked about bulk resource, consumer
[3:09] conditional use permit requirements.
[3:13] Zach's put together some things
[3:14] that we're looking at right now and also P
[3:16] and Z's looking at and there's more to come on that later.
[3:23] And it looks like we have a presentation from the four H.
[3:29] Come on up.
[3:35] Either one, You can sit down or you can stand up.
[3:39] I'll stand. I sent out a kind
[3:44] of report the going over what I've done.
[3:46] I started here in January,
[3:48] so this is a little bit of what I've done.
[3:51] It's kind of hard to put all of it on pen and paper,
[3:53] but that's kind of the gist of what I've been doing.
[3:56] I'm sorry I didn't even introduce myself.
[3:58] I'm Jessica Russell. I'm the new four H specialist
[4:02] and I just wanted to come here, introduce myself.
[4:05] I've been very busy since I've started
[4:07] and I feel like I'm starting to catch my breath now,
[4:09] especially after fair.
[4:10] So I wanted to put a face to my name to you all
[4:14] and I wanted to let you know what I've been working on.
[4:18] And then also I wanted to get an idea of what,
[4:22] if you have anything of what you're looking
[4:25] for from four H in the city of Rifle.
[4:28] So if you guys have anything that like
[4:31] you've been missing from the program that you would like
[4:34] to see more of, anything like that, I would love your input
[4:37] to make sure that the program
[4:39] that we're doing is supporting the community as well. So
[4:43] I think this is the first time anyone from the four H has
[4:46] ever come here for a long time.
[4:48] For a long time. Yeah. So it's nice to see you.
[4:52] I was like, I hope that's a good thing.
[4:53] Really a good thing. We really
[4:55] appreciate the four H program. Yeah. Yes.
[4:57] Yeah. It's a program I truly believe in.
[4:59] I was a four H member as a youth
[5:01] and it's made me the person I am today.
[5:03] So I hope to, to put that into our youth
[5:07] that we have here as well.
[5:09] Yeah, I second those sentiments.
[5:11] The four H program is actually a pretty interesting program.
[5:14] I, I sit on the extension board
[5:18] and we kind of oversee parts.
[5:20] Yeah. Get reports. At least it was,
[5:23] it's an interesting program.
[5:25] I suggest, I suggest people educate themselves on it.
[5:30] I did have one thing that I've heard recently from some
[5:34] of the businesses in town,
[5:35] and that's in regards to
[5:40] spending funds at the Livestock Fair
[5:41] or at the livestock auctions at during the fair that
[5:46] the way it's structured with Loma Livestock, I believe
[5:51] being that the person the check is written to is an issue.
[5:55] And if, if they could write checks to the nonprofits
[6:00] that there might be some more corporate participation
[6:03] and purchasing of livestock.
[6:05] Those funds are usually restricted by the corporations
[6:10] and they have to go to a, to a nonprofit. So Yeah.
[6:14] Yeah. It's because our, that auction is ran
[6:17] by the Livestock Marketing Committee.
[6:20] That is through, they're like an an offshoot
[6:23] of the fair board if I'm understanding it all correctly.
[6:27] And so that they're not a 5 0 1 C.
[6:29] And so some companies are required when they do a donation
[6:33] can only donate to a 5 0 1 C or 5 0 3 C
[6:37] or whatever the number is.
[6:39] And so I think that's something
[6:40] that the Livestock Marketing Committee is actually working
[6:43] on to turn over into a nonprofit so
[6:47] that they can receive those funds from those organizations
[6:50] who really wanna support the program and the auction,
[6:53] but just can't with the standing that they're in.
[6:56] So are, are you talking about the fact
[6:58] that our checks this year went to like
[7:01] acting client or something?
[7:04] 'cause we wrote it to like Garfield County
[7:06] and then it, oh, I said no, you can't write it
[7:08] to Garfield County and then that's it.
[7:10] Yeah, it was different. I see what you're for sure.
[7:11] Now something was different this year.
[7:13] Yeah, it's 'cause I didn't even think about like the
[7:15] tax implications of that.
[7:18] Yeah, there's that side of it.
[7:19] And then there's also this side of how the auction is ran.
[7:23] And so the Livestock Marketing Committee is the one
[7:25] who puts on the livestock auction.
[7:27] I'm just there as a support for that side of it
[7:30] and managing like the youth and all of those things.
[7:33] And then the Livestock Marketing Committee hired
[7:38] Loma Livestock to run the auction,
[7:41] but also the backside of it.
[7:42] So like collecting the money, making sure
[7:45] that the kids get their checks on time.
[7:48] I don't have all the historical knowledge that's happened
[7:50] before, but from my understanding it took like a long time
[7:55] for a lot of our youth to get the money
[7:57] that they made at the auction.
[7:59] And that's 'cause this committee's only ran by volunteers.
[8:03] And so using that livestock era, Loma Livestock allowed for
[8:07] that to happen a lot faster as far as my understanding goes.
[8:12] Yeah, I think, I think that piece of it was,
[8:15] was probably real, but the opportunity
[8:17] for some additional funds to be spent was,
[8:20] it was also substantial amounts of money.
[8:22] Yeah. So yeah.
[8:24] Well I can definitely take this feedback
[8:25] and let the, the committee know that
[8:28] people are thinking about it
[8:30] and looking at solutions on how to make some changes.
[8:35] Okay, thank you. Might need like
[8:36] a go between in the middle.
[8:38] I know that's, yeah. Finding that sweet spot right there.
[8:43] Anybody else got any four H questions or
[8:47] How is participation do you feel like,
[8:50] like I know you don't have a lot to measure it by,
[8:52] but it's pretty robust program.
[8:53] We have a very youthful population here. So
[8:57] Yeah, this, this four H year we've had 250 youth
[9:02] enrolled and over a hundred volunteers.
[9:05] That's good. So in my eyes, I think
[9:07] that's really like a really good number.
[9:10] But I would love to get more involvement from our,
[9:14] what we call our general project side.
[9:16] So not so much our livestock side,
[9:17] but getting these kids who don't have the space
[9:20] to raise animals, but still helping them develop life skills
[9:25] and doing just fun projects.
[9:27] Like one thing that we were able
[9:29] to grow a little bit this year was ceramics.
[9:32] We have a great volunteer out in Parachute
[9:34] that has a ceramic studio
[9:35] and they've invited our youth over there.
[9:37] And so supporting more programs like that so the youth
[9:41] who can't connect
[9:42] to the livestock world still find a
[9:44] belonging within our program.
[9:45] Great.
[9:48] You said 250 youth? Yes. In this year? Yes.
[9:51] Even though you've only been here a short time,
[9:53] do you have a sense of how that number compares
[9:57] to last year or the year before?
[10:00] I think we dropped a little bit
[10:02] and I think this has to do with a lot
[10:03] of our livestock side of it.
[10:05] The prices for say beef
[10:09] and purchasing those larger animals went up substantially.
[10:13] So a lot of our kids weren't able to continue with projects.
[10:16] We also had a large group this year
[10:19] before me that graduated high school.
[10:22] And so we didn't get that return from our littles in
[10:26] with our big kids moving out.
[10:28] So I think that has a little bit to, I don't know
[10:31] what the number was prior to me,
[10:33] but I think it did drop a little bit.
[10:35] But I hope that we can grow more this next year.
[10:43] Thank you. Thank you.
[10:44] We appreciate you coming in. You're welcome.
[10:45] Yeah. Do you guys have any other comments
[10:47] or suggestions like please reach out.
[10:49] I want to be a good support for our community
[10:52] and make these youth and myself
[10:54] and our volunteers feel part of the community.
[10:57] So if you have any suggestions on how we can do things like
[11:00] that, I would be happy to take them. Great,
[11:03] Thank you. Can we get thank you
[11:05] Updates on the events and and stuff.
[11:08] Could we, could we put some of that
[11:09] through our communication channels?
[11:12] Yeah, definitely. We could post it on our flyers
[11:14] and do social media partnerships.
[11:16] So I have your email.
[11:18] Yeah, we can reach out if that would help. Yeah,
[11:21] That would be great. Considered
[11:22] Downtown, could You?
[11:23] I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah,
[11:25] thank you for your time. Thank you.
[11:27] Thank you. Thank You. Thank you.
[11:31] All right. Item seven B presentation by city
[11:34] of Glenwood Springs about the South Bridge.
[11:41] Please introduce yourselves
[11:43] for those of us that don't know you.
[11:45] Good evening mayor and council. Thanks for having us.
[11:47] Good to be here. My name is Steve Boyd.
[11:50] I'm the city manager in Glenwood Springs.
[11:51] I've got our city engineer, Ryan Gordon
[11:54] and our finance directory Vet Gustad with us.
[11:57] So we're just kind of doing the circuit up
[11:59] and down the valley to give everybody a very lightning quick
[12:01] update on how the Southbridge project is going
[12:04] and give you a chance to answer
[12:06] or ask any questions that you'd like.
[12:08] So we've been doing this for a long time.
[12:09] We're probably 20 years or
[12:11] so into it in the last couple years.
[12:13] We've made a lot of changes to the design of the project
[12:16] to try to simplify it and lower the cost.
[12:19] We've got a lot of partners that are in it
[12:21] with us as we go along.
[12:23] But I thought I would just turn it over to our city engineer
[12:26] and have him explain quickly what changes we've made and,
[12:30] and take any questions that you guys have.
[12:32] And then if at some point you'd like to write a letter
[12:34] of support, you're very welcome to.
[12:36] I can work with Patrick on that.
[12:37] We're not here to ask for money. At least tonight.
[12:39] We might be back. I don't know. I'll give it to Ryan.
[12:45] Yeah. Hi. Good evening counsel again.
[12:46] Ryan Gordon, the city engineer.
[12:48] So as, as Steve alluded to
[12:50] and said, lots of changes in the last couple years.
[12:53] So three years ago when I was hired,
[12:55] we put a stop on Southbridge, we paused it
[12:58] and really took a deep dive.
[13:00] We made some, some pretty significant changes.
[13:05] Fir first off, before I go into that,
[13:07] let me explain the reason for Southbridge
[13:10] and why we even started this altogether.
[13:11] So back in 2002,
[13:13] the Coal Sea fire jammed up traffic in Glenwood
[13:16] and really caused a, a major issue.
[13:18] So the idea of Southbridge is primarily a second egress
[13:21] across the Roaring Fork River,
[13:22] primarily access the southern
[13:24] neighborhoods in Glenwood Springs.
[13:26] And then the four mile corridor above Glenwood,
[13:28] approximately about four
[13:30] to 5,000 people live in that, that zone.
[13:32] So that was really the primary reason.
[13:34] There's other, other goals of the project.
[13:38] We're gonna be fully rebuilding almost a complete one mile
[13:41] of Highway D two if this project goes forward.
[13:43] So in, in i I, I was born
[13:46] and raised in Glenwood, so I know it
[13:47] as the Buffalo Valley intersection County Road 1 54 is
[13:51] the, the official name.
[13:52] And, and Highway 82 pretty dangerous roadway in section.
[13:56] In fact, yesterday there was a,
[13:58] a four car pile up in that same area.
[14:00] So the, the project, again, fire evacuation, major,
[14:03] major safety improvements along, along the interstate
[14:06] or the highway system in that, in that corridor also,
[14:09] what it's gonna do is actually, it's gonna continue a lot
[14:11] of pedestrian and biking facilities,
[14:13] which are in the South Glenwood region across this new
[14:17] bridge and connect to the Rio Grande Trail.
[14:18] And then it's also gonna, we feel, have some,
[14:21] some improvements to traffic circulation in,
[14:24] in general move forward.
[14:27] Okay, so this was the design in 2023?
[14:31] The 2000, yeah, yeah, 2023.
[14:33] And, and what I've highlighted on here are three major
[14:35] components that we really took a deep dive.
[14:37] So going from left to right,
[14:40] initially the project actually had a tunnel under our
[14:43] existing municipal runway.
[14:45] We found out that was actually gonna be the first ever
[14:47] tunnel under a runway that municipality built.
[14:49] And we didn't want to be the Guinea pigs
[14:51] for number one second, the bridge structure
[14:54] that crosses the Roaring Fork River, initially designed as
[14:58] a bridge, very similar to
[14:59] what you see in the Goman Springs Canyon,
[15:00] which is the segmented concrete sections.
[15:03] Fairly complicated to construct.
[15:05] Pretty unique and difficult
[15:06] as a long-term maintenance challenge.
[15:09] Thirdly, on the top of the top of the screen, you'll see
[15:13] a section along highway E two.
[15:14] Well, we had initially for a, a set of houses,
[15:18] 2, 2, 600 foot long by two six foot, six foot,
[15:23] 600 foot long by 20 foot high retaining walls
[15:27] to access those neighborhoods.
[15:29] So what we end up doing next, next, next screen is,
[15:33] is we kind of re revision a little bit of the project.
[15:36] Again, not the philosophy of it.
[15:38] What we end up doing is re remove that tunnel.
[15:40] So what we did is we shifted the road to the south
[15:43] and below the runway.
[15:44] This would allow us to eliminate that tunnel
[15:47] and also have a safe way to get around
[15:49] around the runway itself.
[15:51] We changed the bridge style to a boring steel girder bridge
[15:55] that you see everywhere.
[15:57] Much, much easier to construct, much easier to maintain,
[16:00] significantly cheaper.
[16:03] Those, those retaining walls I mentioned,
[16:05] we got rid of them entirely.
[16:06] And what we ended up doing is preserving at
[16:09] that intersection, the County Road 1 54.
[16:11] Right now, there's a four-way intersection.
[16:13] We preserved that. The previous one actually had the
[16:16] elimination of the, the,
[16:18] the turning movements on would be the, the east side,
[16:21] which is why those walls was there.
[16:22] So we really got rid of that.
[16:25] Additionally, what we also did when we changed
[16:27] that bridge style, we were able
[16:28] to reduce it down in elevation,
[16:30] which made the grades on the east side of the river,
[16:32] which accesses the Jackson Ranch
[16:35] and the Holy Cross Energy campus, much,
[16:37] much more simpler from a 10% grade to basically at grade 1%.
[16:42] So we really made a lot of significant changes.
[16:44] So what this really did beyond those, those those elements,
[16:48] it reduced the project from probably 20 to 30 million,
[16:52] probably more on the 30 million side
[16:53] and reduced construction time, about 18 months.
[16:56] We actually hired a consultant
[16:58] to kind of help us do all this.
[16:59] You know, I'm I, I'm, I'm fairly smart,
[17:01] but not smart enough in all this.
[17:03] So we've got some experts to kind of help us out with costs
[17:05] and construction schedule.
[17:06] So some pretty meaningful changes. Go ahead.
[17:10] So here's what it looks like right now.
[17:11] Again, doesn't look a whole lot different than before,
[17:14] but the major point you can see is the, the bottom part
[17:16] of the roadway that goes, you know, to the south
[17:19] of the runway that really has accomplished a couple things
[17:22] beyond just construction schedule and cost.
[17:25] What this is allowing us
[17:26] to do is actually keep speeds moderate.
[17:28] When there was a, when there was a tunnel,
[17:30] the tunnel actually came underneath the runway
[17:32] and had a curve that was designed for about a 45 mile,
[17:36] 45 mile an hour highway speed, which again,
[17:39] you can probably get up to 65 miles an hour
[17:42] if you really drop the hammer.
[17:43] What this has allowed us to do is actually put in a lot
[17:46] of more controls on, on speed and, and how people drive.
[17:50] You know, we cannot control where people drive,
[17:52] but we cer certainly want to control how they are driving.
[17:55] So this actually is a 25 mile an hour designed corner.
[17:59] At that lower left hand corner, we're gonna have a bunch
[18:02] of other safety features of speed table, some roundabouts
[18:04] and some other things to control control speed.
[18:07] You can see on the right hand side the,
[18:08] the significant amount of, of
[18:11] redesign on the highway D two corridor.
[18:13] And just to kind of point out again, at that county road,
[18:16] 1 54 across the, across the highway from that
[18:20] is the Red Mountain Commercial District.
[18:22] All that area right now has sort of a free access
[18:26] to the, to the highway D two.
[18:27] It's about a 300 foot long open area.
[18:31] What we've done is we consolidated all of those businesses
[18:34] and there's a few residents
[18:35] and collected them to a new signaled intersection
[18:39] where the new Southbridge road would, would come up.
[18:41] Again, really creating a much more safer condition
[18:44] for those businesses and then for the traveling public.
[18:48] So the other thing that I mentioned was traffic.
[18:50] And I, I, I don't expect you guys to digest all this,
[18:53] but what this is really showing
[18:54] and what we've been able to determine is
[18:56] by building this bridge,
[18:58] we are essentially gonna be pulling off approximately 3000
[19:01] cars per day,
[19:02] or about 10% of the current traffic on Highway D two
[19:05] that currently would go, if you're going from let's say,
[19:08] Carbondale to Glenwood
[19:09] as you're approaching the current traffic pattern, right?
[19:11] As you approach the, the Walmart area, the McDonald's area,
[19:16] a lot of the residents that live in South Glenwood are four
[19:19] mile that currently commute,
[19:21] let's say up Valley when they're coming down valley.
[19:23] They have to come down through that, through past McDonald's
[19:26] and then take a left on 27th Street
[19:28] and basically backtrack a couple miles to get up four mile.
[19:31] When we build South Bridge, again,
[19:33] this is gonna be well south, about two miles south of
[19:36] that of McDonald's.
[19:37] Those, those approximately 3000 vehicles per day will no
[19:41] longer have to go to 27th Street.
[19:42] Right? They will be able to take Southbridge
[19:45] to get to get home.
[19:47] We feel that's gonna be a meaningful amount
[19:49] of, of reduction.
[19:50] And again, our goal is this is, is in, in no way intended
[19:54] to be a bypass, right?
[19:55] Our, our goal actually, as I mentioned,
[19:57] the 25 mile an hour speed limits, speed tables, et cetera,
[20:01] is to kind of make it not much fun to have
[20:03] to drive through Southbridge.
[20:05] But if you're going home, great,
[20:06] but if it's your commute not so great, and we think the idea
[20:10] and, and we've done a couple studies, is
[20:12] that we're leaving enough traffic off of Highway 82 that
[20:14] to stay in Highway 82, where you can go 55 miles an hour
[20:19] into Glenwood Springs, obviously if to slow down,
[20:22] that would be the preferred
[20:23] and quicker route for the commuters.
[20:24] So again, it really accomplishes a ton of things.
[20:27] And, and I just wanna highlight, you know,
[20:28] the safety improvements on Highway 82 are really paramount.
[20:31] Over the last 15 years there's been at least two fatalities
[20:35] and somewhere and close to the 60
[20:37] to 70 major serious actions
[20:39] accidents in this stretch of the road.
[20:42] And I think, oh, I go most important part I was about
[20:45] to be done schedule and costs.
[20:48] So the schedule, there's a,
[20:49] there's a few little changes here as we're sort
[20:51] of progressing through, but generally speaking,
[20:53] this project is funded from a $50 million grant
[20:56] that we received from FHWA.
[20:59] We're in the process now of oblating that grant
[21:02] that's in final review at a couple different parties
[21:04] up at FHWA.
[21:05] So we're looking to have that grant money secured
[21:08] for the project here pretty quick.
[21:10] This says anticipated bid date October
[21:13] of 26, which is right around the corner.
[21:15] It's more gonna be like January one of 27.
[21:19] We are working through a few, a few last things.
[21:22] You know, we're working with the county on land use permits
[21:25] and some other other issues there.
[21:27] And then we're also working to finalize
[21:29] and secure right of way,
[21:30] we wanna have both those items taken care
[21:32] of prior to bidding the project.
[21:34] So we think that's probably gonna be around the first
[21:36] of the year, but it's kind of challenging to,
[21:40] to estimate when all that stuff is gonna get worked out.
[21:43] So construction date would fall on the heels.
[21:45] Again, if we sort of say construction date is,
[21:48] is this says one, one that would be bid date.
[21:50] So if you give a couple months
[21:51] for getting a contractor on board
[21:53] and the contract signed, so if we're talking the end
[21:55] of first quarter 27,
[21:56] we feel the construction is probably close
[21:59] to about a two year or,
[22:00] or two construction cycle of a project.
[22:03] Given that we have quite a bit of work to do.
[22:06] Certainly right now we're estimating
[22:08] that the total project cost is like $77.5 million right now.
[22:13] What we have with, assuming that we have
[22:15] that federal big federal grant,
[22:17] we have about 72 point half million dollars
[22:19] with $5 million remaining.
[22:21] And, and some of the funding sources raft is providing
[22:24] money, c d's providing money.
[22:26] This federal grant along
[22:28] with some other federal earmarks is providing money.
[22:30] Then certainly city of Glenoma Springs is bringing up
[22:32] and providing local match and, and,
[22:34] and kind of closing that gap.
[22:36] So I think that's my last slide.
[22:39] So listen, open up for questions if you have anything,
[22:42] I'm happy to answer anything.
[22:44] So I'm, I'm just go, my mind just goes back
[22:48] to when we did, when we did,
[22:49] when you guys built the new bridge across,
[22:52] what is the traffic impact
[22:53] of those two years gonna be on highway 82?
[22:56] Yeah, that's a, that's a great question.
[22:58] So we've thought this through
[23:00] and there's plenty of space, I say plenty of space,
[23:02] but there's space enough that you,
[23:04] we can do some significant lane shifts.
[23:07] So really the Oh, thank you.
[23:09] That's a great to bring that back.
[23:10] So, so the improvements in highway D two are adding
[23:13] acceleration and deceleration lanes,
[23:15] some additional turn lanes and,
[23:17] and widening some of the areas.
[23:18] Right now there's, there's significant space.
[23:21] We think we can do a lane shift
[23:23] and move traffic over while we'll do work on east side,
[23:26] south side, whatever weather side you want to call it,
[23:29] and then kind of shift lanes.
[23:30] So there would certainly be impacts to say the least.
[23:32] But we think given, you know, again,
[23:34] where this intersection is in proximity
[23:36] to McDonald's is relatively close-ish, and I bring that up
[23:39] because we probably will have, you know, speed limits
[23:42] through the construction zone at 45 miles an hour, hour.
[23:45] So hopefully it's not a significant impact as opposed
[23:47] to midsection between Glenwood and Carbondale.
[23:50] There will be some impacts.
[23:52] The good news about this project is a lot
[23:54] of the heavy lifting, so to speak, is off the system, right?
[23:58] The bridge doesn't have traffic going to it.
[24:00] The roadways on the, on the west side
[24:02] of the airport don't have a significant amount of traffic.
[24:04] So we're hoping that it's gonna be minimum amount of impact,
[24:07] but there, like any, any construction project,
[24:09] unfortunately, there's going
[24:10] to be times when it's pretty significant,
[24:13] but we are still gonna be following all the CDOT protocols
[24:15] with regards to constructions on a highway system.
[24:18] So that means, you know, the major work between 9:00 AM
[24:22] and 3:00 PM hopefully quasi outside of that commuting time.
[24:26] Right? I mean, we know that's sort
[24:27] of inching in on those timeframes,
[24:29] but that's the goal at least is to minimize impact to
[24:31] that, to the traveling public.
[24:33] Is it possible for all the highway 82 work
[24:35] to get done in one construction season?
[24:37] You know that that is a possibility? I'm
[24:39] Just wondering what the sequence of
[24:41] Yeah.
[24:42] That that's, that's, that's the $65 million question.
[24:46] We are, we're, you know,
[24:47] the way we're gonna do this is once we bid it out,
[24:50] hire a contractor, sit down and talk about schedule
[24:53] and obviously impacts to, to the traveling public impacts
[24:56] to the river corridor, our, our Paramount.
[24:58] We wanna reduce those.
[24:59] And so we'll come up with an ideas
[25:01] and it may be something
[25:02] that we can both do in one construction season.
[25:05] Perhaps there's some night work, you know,
[25:07] we'll figure out what's the best way about doing this
[25:09] that we can fit within the budget and the timeframe.
[25:11] But, but certainly, you know, and,
[25:12] and also, you know, with the Aspen airport being shut down,
[25:14] that's gonna cause an increase of traffic.
[25:16] So we're trying, we're trying to balance that out
[25:19] and we recognize that it's not spectacular for,
[25:23] for everybody to have to deal with the major project on a
[25:25] major highway system.
[25:27] I think it's a good idea all, all the way around
[25:30] and needed it not only for the folks
[25:33] that are going all the way through Glenwood,
[25:34] but definitely for the folks that are going up to Four Mile.
[25:37] Yeah. So, yeah. That's great.
[25:40] Just for the sake of being here at the city of Rifle,
[25:42] what do you feel this project does
[25:44] to benefit the citizens of Rifle?
[25:45] Can you help us understand that?
[25:47] And if we were to sign a letter of support, what would
[25:50] that be asking for from Rifle specifically? Yeah.
[25:52] We, we see this as, as really sort of integral
[25:55] to like say the valley wide, right?
[25:57] While it's obviously a Glenwood project in Glenwood Springs
[25:59] financed a lot by Glenwood.
[26:01] I think there's some significant benefits.
[26:02] I think one is if the traffic patterns sort
[26:06] of pen pencil out as we kind of think there are,
[26:08] it will be easier for folks to get in
[26:10] and in through Glenwood Springs, right?
[26:12] We know there is, you know, a good chunk of people
[26:14] that commute up Valley from Newcastle, silt Rifle
[26:17] and Parachute even further down, right?
[26:19] We're hoping this saves a meaningful
[26:21] amount of time for those folks.
[26:23] I will really highlight these safety
[26:25] improvements on Highway 82.
[26:27] You know, these accidents don't just, you know,
[26:29] affect Glenwood Springs residents.
[26:31] It is really kind of valley wide.
[26:33] And again, as we sort of look at the increase in wildfire,
[26:37] wildfire evacuation, again,
[26:39] this gives us another opportunity
[26:40] to get people in and out, right?
[26:42] And so, you know,
[26:44] God forbid there's a fire up four Mile, right?
[26:46] This is a way of forcing a lot of people out.
[26:48] Right now, those folks only have one, one way out.
[26:51] But if we sort of look at what happened a couple weeks,
[26:53] excuse me, a couple months ago, south Canyon was closed down
[26:56] for a significant amount of time.
[26:59] A lot of things happened, a lot of lessons learned, right?
[27:01] But what one of the things I was thinking is if boy, if
[27:04] that fire crusted that hill
[27:05] and came down, all those people
[27:07] who were jammed into Glenwood had to get out
[27:09] and they only had one way basically down Highway 82,
[27:12] that would've been equally challenging
[27:14] to get those people out as there was getting in.
[27:16] So South Bridge would provide that second opportunity.
[27:19] And like I said, it's just a, a another chance
[27:22] to get better flow patterns of traffic, right?
[27:25] So I, I do, I do think, again, those safety improvements
[27:28] and then I think there will be some modest amount of savings
[27:31] and, and commute time for the Down Valley folks.
[27:33] I think those are the things I'd highlight
[27:34] for the City of Rifle.
[27:35] Thank you.
[27:39] Anybody else got questions?
[27:44] Thanks guys. Well
[27:45] Appreciate your time listening to us. Yeah, thank you.
[27:47] Thank you. Thank you Mayor.
[27:51] Let's take up the consent agenda item that was pulled
[27:54] before the public hearing.
[27:56] You wanna do it now? Yeah. Okay.
[28:00] Item five E consider the 90 day non-renewal notice
[28:03] for the rough LLC.
[28:09] And You just do the same background that you did at the
[28:14] Yep.
[28:15] So the request was,
[28:20] I guess to go back City purchased the golf course
[28:23] in April of this year.
[28:25] At that time, there was an existing tenant
[28:29] in the restaurant space who agreed to stay on.
[28:32] We negotiated a lease with them through,
[28:35] with help from Jim's office.
[28:37] And as part of that lease there was a,
[28:43] it was either for a year
[28:46] or if it isn't pulled earlier than that,
[28:48] it would turn over into a three year lease agreement.
[28:51] And so currently there we're required to give notice
[28:54] for it 90 days prior to the termination of lease,
[28:57] which was December 31st.
[28:59] So that 90 days is the beginning of October
[29:03] and we brought it to workshop for you all
[29:07] and it's in front of you tonight
[29:11] for recommendation that that's signed.
[29:16] Yeah, I, I have some, some thoughts on this subject
[29:20] and it kind of ret pertains
[29:22] to the public private partnership
[29:25] that the city's entering into here
[29:28] and the process that the city's gonna use to lease
[29:32] our spaces to for-profit entities.
[29:37] When I spoke with Patrick about this yesterday,
[29:39] I think there's several examples within the city of
[29:45] opportunities that we could have to expand
[29:49] those partnerships
[29:51] and then kind of what function we have as a city
[29:54] to be a good partner to businesses
[29:58] that may choose to come and do business with us.
[30:03] Earlier tonight, we were talking about the Ute Theater.
[30:08] For those who don't know, the Avalon is a public-private
[30:11] partnership almost exactly minus the private
[30:15] as the Ute is managed.
[30:18] The golf course is an interesting case in
[30:21] that we acquired it halfway through the year.
[30:25] We've had a, an operator at the facility up there
[30:29] for a couple years.
[30:31] And I think that's been appreciated to have a,
[30:33] a high quality operator up there.
[30:37] And I wanted to make sure
[30:38] that we're not missing an opportunity to kind of standardize
[30:41] or define our approach to how we, how we move
[30:46] with these public-private partnerships, maximize the benefit
[30:50] for the city and also
[30:54] for the potential partners that we have.
[30:59] Specifically on this, on this item.
[31:01] One, one issue I had was that there wasn't a,
[31:07] a notice of award date that we wouldn't award
[31:11] or that we would award the, the bid
[31:16] to whoever wins the RFP by a certain amount of time.
[31:21] I'd also, you know, like to, to ensure
[31:25] that this three year term that we're doing
[31:27] for the RFP is reasonable to the business
[31:30] and the business community.
[31:32] That might be,
[31:36] I lost it on my iPad here, that might be doing
[31:41] or entering into these kind of agreements with us.
[31:44] And I want to make sure that we have a,
[31:48] an appropriate way to, to handle this as a city.
[31:52] I think there's a bigger opportunity for us here.
[31:55] And this was an entry into that for me.
[32:03] And yeah, maybe this should have been brought up in the
[32:06] workshop, but I, it was, it was kind of like a,
[32:10] I don't know, it went really quick at the workshop and
[32:13] after I started thinking about it, I'm,
[32:15] I'm thinking about it like,
[32:17] I was on the board at the golf course for a long time
[32:19] and we always, we so struggled to get quality,
[32:24] somebody quality to, you know,
[32:26] they always started out really strong
[32:28] and then kind of petered out the other people
[32:32] that we had up there trying to lease that place.
[32:34] And it got so frustrating that we actually like tried
[32:37] to take the operation over ourselves for a few years.
[32:40] And we've had a, we've had a somebody up there
[32:45] for two solid years that's done a great job,
[32:50] great food, lots of options, always there, always open.
[32:56] I just, I just think we're being a little bit hasty
[33:00] because I don't know if we want to get somebody else to
[33:04] go up there to, to win this RFP
[33:07] and maybe they're not gonna be
[33:09] as good as what we have right now.
[33:11] So I'm just,
[33:13] and along with the stuff that Michael's talking about,
[33:16] I just feel like this is, this is being rushed right now,
[33:19] so, well the,
[33:21] before we approved it, I just wanted to have some discussion
[33:24] in front of the public and we've never done this before.
[33:27] Right, right. So like it's so new. Yeah.
[33:32] And, and October 1st is the date, right?
[33:36] So if we, I was honestly hoping maybe we table this
[33:40] for two weeks or we just vote
[33:43] on it right now and get it done.
[33:44] But I didn't want it to be on the consent agenda, so
[33:48] I just wanted there to be more conversation.
[33:50] So I, I'm, I know we're a city
[33:54] and we've, we have maybe an obligation to the community
[33:58] to put this out back out for lease.
[34:01] Like a bit competition right.
[34:04] Wise, but I'm also looking at it as like we have
[34:09] somebody in there that's like, it's,
[34:12] it just scares me and they, I apply.
[34:14] They can, they can, yeah.
[34:17] Would you do this the same
[34:18] for a construction project though?
[34:19] It's the same thing.
[34:20] It's, it's, it's, we as a public entity need
[34:23] to follow the process for every part of
[34:26] that business process of bidding.
[34:27] It's different when it was a private entity.
[34:29] So when we met in the spring, we were gonna, we were,
[34:34] I felt like we were gonna judge how they did
[34:37] during the summer and, and,
[34:41] and decide whether we were gonna renew the,
[34:43] the lease based off of that.
[34:45] And like, as far as I've seen, there's,
[34:47] there hasn't been any complaints up there
[34:49] and they've done a great job.
[34:51] So I'm just afraid, I'm just afraid to, afraid
[34:53] to make the change and have something
[34:55] that's less after we try.
[34:57] If we, if and when we do this change, if, if
[35:00] and when two other, or two or three other people come in
[35:02] and try to get the RFP, like I'm just, I just,
[35:07] when I'm, I'm just telling you 20 years
[35:10] of history in my mind right now.
[35:11] Yeah. Or if no one showed, if no one bids. So Yeah.
[35:15] And you got somebody that's very invested in it.
[35:17] They've been there, they've done a lot of improvements.
[35:20] They've like, it's, it's just a tough one for me.
[35:23] So I think it fundamentally,
[35:26] it is different than a conventional RFP process, right?
[35:31] The the public public private partnership
[35:35] that we're entering into number one in duration is much
[35:38] longer, right?
[35:40] Like three year construction projects don't,
[35:42] hopefully they don't happen.
[35:44] Although we just heard about one. That's
[35:46] Good, Right?
[35:48] And it's also revenue source for the city.
[35:53] And I, I fundamentally view that revenue source as different
[35:58] and having an approach to doing that.
[36:01] You know, I bring up the ute
[36:04] I think there's genuinely opportunity for some of this stuff
[36:07] to occur at Rifle Mountain Park.
[36:10] There's opportunities at the boat ramp
[36:13] and just how do we, how do we approach these partnerships
[36:17] because it it is, they're an operating partner
[36:20] of a city asset,
[36:21] which is fundamentally different than delivering a
[36:23] service to the city.
[36:25] True. They're, they're in charge of one of our assets.
[36:29] I want to make sure that we have a defined approach
[36:31] in a scope to do this.
[36:32] You know, I've looked around, these partnerships exist
[36:36] and there is documentation
[36:37] and maybe Patrick can give us some background on
[36:41] how you would structure the RFP,
[36:43] what information would be included in it, you know,
[36:46] what kind of research that the, the city staff has done into
[36:52] constructing an effective partnership.
[36:55] And Jim, maybe you have some experience with other,
[36:58] So we, the one municipalities, two things.
[37:00] One, I was talking about our conversation to Scott.
[37:05] We do have the Brendan Theater.
[37:07] So the city does operate with the Brendan Theater kind
[37:10] of in a, in a similar type manner.
[37:14] So I just wanna clarify that for you.
[37:15] 'cause I said there was none. The, the second thing,
[37:20] so staff has done, we've had probably three
[37:22] or four meetings internally about
[37:24] what an RFP process would look like.
[37:25] We have a pretty robust draft one right now.
[37:29] We obviously haven't taken any action on any of that
[37:32] because there's no formal notification from
[37:34] council as of right now.
[37:37] Totally. Something
[37:38] that we could bring to you all to look at.
[37:41] There's, we've pulled, there's a lot
[37:44] of great RFPs to pull from.
[37:48] 'cause this is the general way
[37:49] that most folks organize their golf course restaurants.
[37:52] So there's some revenue sharing items in there.
[37:56] There's some financial documentation that they have
[37:59] to provide in order to make sure
[38:01] that they can really pull it off.
[38:02] They need references, they need experience,
[38:05] all that sort of stuff.
[38:06] So that, that type of thing is in there.
[38:09] Happy to, you know,
[38:10] it is a different thing than we normally do,
[38:12] but happy to bring it to council for you all to look at
[38:16] as part of the RFP
[38:17] process, I think.
[38:21] But we've, I, I want to applaud.
[38:23] Iris has done a really good job, Cody
[38:26] and Austin, of structuring
[38:28] and pulling a bunch of research from other
[38:30] places to put in there.
[38:33] So I think from my perspective,
[38:35] this isn't about the establishment itself.
[38:37] This is about the process that we
[38:39] as a city when when it was privately owned
[38:41] and you had trouble, we are about to look at investing, how,
[38:45] how much money into this to improve it
[38:47] and increase the, the quality, I guess.
[38:51] And not to say it wasn't great before,
[38:53] but the whole reason the city did take it on,
[38:56] one was for the water rights.
[38:57] And two, because we wanna preserve this
[38:59] as a community asset.
[39:00] And, and everybody agreed that if we're going
[39:02] to do this, we wanna do it right.
[39:04] And I think that because people haven't applied in the past
[39:08] or you've had trouble in the past,
[39:09] I think is is not a good way to approach this
[39:13] as a Oh well we, we don't know what's gonna happen.
[39:16] We haven't even put it out there.
[39:18] It's my understanding, I don't really go up
[39:19] to the golf course that much, so I don't have
[39:21] a personal experience with it.
[39:22] But it's my understanding that the, with the level of work
[39:26] that's been put into it and the sophistication that the city
[39:28] with its resources
[39:30] and ability to manage places
[39:33] has done at the golf course has improved it
[39:35] quite effectively.
[39:36] And I think that next level is the, the, the food
[39:39] and beverage and the the, with how much money we spend on
[39:42] beverage carts, right?
[39:43] Like there needs to be an expectation
[39:46] that people should compete for
[39:48] and they should have that opportunity to
[39:52] present their case based on competition
[39:56] of things have changed a lot in, in our region, I think.
[40:00] And, and it may be that no one applies for it,
[40:03] but then we, we are back to square one.
[40:04] It this represents our city,
[40:06] this represents our people and, and who we are.
[40:09] I think it needs to go out to bid so that the best
[40:13] of the best can have the opportunity to come in.
[40:17] I just think that's our responsibility as the owner
[40:19] of this golf course.
[40:20] Now I, I think it's important.
[40:24] I think it, I I said from the beginning it should have
[40:26] probably gone to rp, but I understand that
[40:28] that isn't realistic, right?
[40:30] It wasn't at the time. No.
[40:31] And, and I get that, but I just think in the matter of,
[40:34] if we're setting expectations of
[40:36] what we want from this golf course
[40:37] and how we're using our money, we should apply it to all
[40:40] aspects of, of the operation.
[40:42] I agree totally. And I think
[40:44] that the council should be involved in that RFP process
[40:47] and have some guidance
[40:49] and some oversight into what that looks like
[40:52] and have a real discussion around what that partnership is.
[40:56] That's exactly my point. I agree completely.
[41:01] We're gonna be terminating this
[41:04] and looking into kind of void as it currently stands.
[41:08] I don't understand what the RF P's gonna look like. Yeah.
[41:10] I don't know what profit sharing
[41:11] and those, those kind of items, how do we
[41:14] as a council position that thing to be the most successful?
[41:19] That to me that's the piece
[41:21] and that's the structure that we should take
[41:24] as an organization to maximize that asset.
[41:28] Not, oh, this is an opportunity.
[41:32] We should put it up for bid. Totally agree.
[41:35] But how are we gonna do that?
[41:36] How are we gonna further that opportunity?
[41:38] Yeah. We have to set the expectations and criteria gets,
[41:41] Yeah.
[41:42] It's the whole scope of the,
[41:43] Of the r And is there,
[41:44] I don't know if there is an evaluation
[41:46] piece to this right now.
[41:47] Like I think I asked if there's any, been any feedback
[41:51] or surveys, you know, in the business world you have,
[41:56] you can measure it by certain criteria.
[41:59] I'm not sure if that is even possible,
[42:01] but there isn't that mechanism right now to understand
[42:04] what the community, the, the feedback is your
[42:06] people's personal experience.
[42:07] But we don't know a whole wide variety of that.
[42:11] At least I don't. So
[42:13] One of the things that I frequently see, and
[42:15] and Scott maybe you have some experience with this,
[42:17] but is requesting letters of interest and,
[42:22] and going through that process to, to evaluate what that is,
[42:28] you know, what that interest is
[42:29] and yeah, I I, I agree it should be, hey, bring the best
[42:35] to the city that you can, who would be interested in it?
[42:40] You know, maybe there is only one responder.
[42:42] Maybe that that is a, a reality that we face.
[42:47] I don't, I don't know.
[42:50] But you know, how do we evaluate and,
[42:53] and use those processes that are, I I would say commonplace
[42:57] inside of these spaces.
[42:59] You know, Karen, I'm sure with your purchasing history
[43:02] that you guys would see who,
[43:03] who is interested in bidding on these things
[43:06] And Well, you don't know until you put it out.
[43:08] You don't know who the competitors really are.
[43:11] We're getting bids on all
[43:12] of our projects that we're doing.
[43:13] Right? I mean, we're going out to bid on them,
[43:15] being competitive with them.
[43:17] We don't see why this would be any different.
[43:18] We're just saying that you have, we are gonna do that
[43:22] with the golf course and whoever's there can still
[43:26] apply and go for it.
[43:28] Or you can have other people or you might have
[43:31] No one.
[43:32] I don't think anybody's saying do that differently. Right.
[43:35] I'm saying this is a,
[43:36] like the Brendan Theater, we have a lease with them. Yeah.
[43:39] It's a little different than this.
[43:41] They definitely, yeah. I'm
[43:43] Not like a dollar a Year or something. No, no. It's
[43:46] Gave us Yeah, 22,000 bucks a Month.
[43:48] Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, at the time it was market,
[43:51] it had to be, it couldn't be too market
[43:54] because of what they're doing for the community.
[43:56] So I don't think Bren and it's not our theater, it's theirs.
[44:00] They built it, they own it.
[44:02] It's just on our land
[44:03] and they're paying a pretty good lease for the land.
[44:05] The ground Ground lease.
[44:07] The ground lease. Yeah. Yeah.
[44:08] So the, I mean the, the,
[44:12] this is like a con concession air,
[44:15] a concession agreement is really
[44:16] what we're doing with the golf course.
[44:18] And I mean, state parks do it.
[44:20] There's a lot of public private partnership.
[44:24] I'm not, I think they're a contractor.
[44:26] So there's lots of examples of this.
[44:29] You don't want to do it. Clin Clint tried it. That's what
[44:32] I'm Worried about.
[44:34] And and Austin doesn't want to do it. No.
[44:37] So, so in terms of the RP,
[44:41] I do think staff's got a pretty good head start on all this.
[44:45] And if you approve this letter tonight, you'll have time
[44:49] to look at the process.
[44:51] You don't have too much time
[44:53] because whoever gets this is gonna need to start planning
[44:55] for next year pretty quickly.
[44:57] And the reason it's three years is so
[44:59] that they don't have to do this every year.
[45:00] It's a lot of instability.
[45:02] No one wants to go through that if they don't
[45:04] know they can, you know?
[45:05] So, and I think that's fair. I think so. Yeah.
[45:07] Once you pick someone, you gotta give them. Yes, exactly.
[45:09] And that's what I mean, if we are going into,
[45:10] this is a big commitment too.
[45:11] Yeah. But I think you have time to do that.
[45:15] Happy to change our normal process.
[45:17] However council would like, I mean I know
[45:20] so other places No,
[45:21] You're not, you're not gonna set up this RFP like
[45:24] a construction job
[45:25] RFP.
[45:26] Right? It's very different. D
[45:27] That's what I'm saying. What is our normal
[45:29] Procedure?
[45:30] Yeah. So it has very different submittal criteria,
[45:32] but you know, it is lots of places could bring this decision
[45:37] to counsel like in a workshop.
[45:39] These are the five people we got.
[45:41] Now you guys are choosing, you know,
[45:43] who you'd like to see or not.
[45:45] That's not how we've done things in rifle.
[45:47] It's generally a staff thing.
[45:49] There's staff review of the applications that we received.
[45:52] We provide you with recommendation. Yeah.
[45:54] And moves forward from there. It'll be based off
[45:57] similar criteria.
[45:59] I, and I'd have to pull it from the draft that we have.
[46:02] But you know, there's identified criteria that we score
[46:06] based on the submittal of the application. References
[46:09] Also.
[46:10] Also, yep. References interview is likely
[46:12] the process that's included.
[46:14] So it's much more, and we do this
[46:16] for professional services regularly.
[46:18] Right. So when you're choosing,
[46:19] so it's not gonna be a startup business,
[46:20] a design firm. I mean you're, you're
[46:22] Could be, and I wouldn't, I prob I I think it's so early
[46:26] in our, in the city's ownership of this to profit sharing.
[46:31] And if, if you, if you try to, it looks like
[46:33] that make it too much of a money maker, you don't,
[46:35] I don't think you have that information yet.
[46:37] Maybe another three years you do.
[46:38] And as you're making all these improvements
[46:40] and then you have these numbers, then you realize, okay,
[46:43] you've got a really sweet deal.
[46:45] It is, we're the ones putting all this money
[46:47] in to get all these people here.
[46:48] And then you may renegotiate it.
[46:49] So I, I just think you may not have the information in this
[46:52] round to maximize Yeah.
[46:55] That benefit.
[46:58] Do you think that the three year term, you know,
[47:01] conventional restaurants are, are hard to run?
[47:04] You know, I think that's why we see so many
[47:07] food trucks much less capital intensive.
[47:10] Yeah. Much. Do, do you think three years, I mean,
[47:14] have you seen these, have you negotiated?
[47:16] Is three years long enough?
[47:17] I think we got that from the current operator.
[47:20] That's what they wanted.
[47:21] And so we're like, well you're in the industry.
[47:22] So we accepted that.
[47:24] I think I'd be afraid to go too much further
[47:27] because if, if you have a new operator that you don't know
[47:31] what, how they're gonna be, so to go
[47:33] to five might is a long commitment.
[47:35] And then two is probably not long enough.
[47:36] So I think that's why we have the three,
[47:38] which is a sweet spot.
[47:39] And if you get someone you love, then you can
[47:41] work from there and, you know,
[47:43] and the renewal maybe go for five
[47:44] and obviously at performance standards
[47:46] where you could call a default and,
[47:48] and hold them, you know, to the standards.
[47:50] So I, I think three feels about right
[47:53] for this next round. I agree.
[47:56] I agree. Okay.
[48:00] So what would be a motion on this?
[48:02] You can enter, you just read it,
[48:04] But do we need to make adjustments on it
[48:06] Or?
[48:07] So the, the only thing that I would like, in addition to,
[48:09] well if you, if you vote to
[48:12] approve or deny it doesn't matter.
[48:13] If you wanna see the RFP, I'd just like direction for that.
[48:17] Yeah. Because it's not, it's sort of outside
[48:18] of our normal process.
[48:20] So can I say it and requesting staff
[48:23] to provide counsel with
[48:24] Yep.
[48:25] Which would probably be at maybe your next meeting or Yeah,
[48:27] We'd probably bring it to you.
[48:28] 'cause it's time. We wanna, we want
[48:30] to get it out time if we're gonna do it.
[48:32] So it likely would be,
[48:34] I can't start the workshop any earlier with
[48:38] Actually a workshop.
[48:39] It may it a good workshop.
[48:40] It probably, it might be a presentation item
[48:42] that we just bring to you guys and Yeah.
[48:44] Sort of get feedback in,
[48:45] in this setting on it. Just because,
[48:49] So do you wanna hold It needs to move.
[48:51] Do you wanna hold on the 90 day notice until we have this?
[48:54] No, you, you need to. Okay.
[48:56] You have to decide if, if, if that's what I'm,
[48:57] I'm just, do you wanna go to an RFP?
[48:59] You need to approve this us sending this letter.
[49:02] 'cause you want to get like the RFP out
[49:03] by like October 1st
[49:05] Probably, or no, in October.
[49:07] But you need to, you need to send this
[49:08] notice under the current lease.
[49:10] Yep. So our, That's the important piece. October 1st.
[49:13] Well, we have right now This is your last meeting.
[49:15] Yep. So you all know This is our
[49:17] first, we have a second. Let's,
[49:18] Right, we have one more.
[49:20] Yes. I, it actually takes a lot of pressure out. Sorry. I
[49:24] That's why, that's why Thank you. Sorry.
[49:27] That's okay. So right now we,
[49:29] what we have sketched out staff in ours.
[49:32] Thank you Alexis. Pulled it up is that we would
[49:36] put it out, I think in September 22nd.
[49:39] That's not on here. Pre-bid meeting. October 20th.
[49:44] Question deadline. So we always have questions in our
[49:46] proposals about what people wanna submit
[49:48] or not would be October 26th.
[49:51] Due date for proposal is November 4th.
[49:54] So that's when they would have to submit to us.
[49:57] And then the notice of award is December 2nd, which that,
[50:00] that piece is longer than we normally do for our process.
[50:04] But we anticipate that this will have an interview
[50:08] associated with it as well.
[50:10] So that's, that's the
[50:13] what's scheduled right now in the draft RFP that we have.
[50:18] So with an award on December 2nd,
[50:21] the holidays mixed in there.
[50:22] They've got 20 days, something like that to,
[50:27] to vacate the premises
[50:28] and get, would we expect the new operator
[50:30] to be in there January one?
[50:33] It's up to them when they want to open.
[50:35] Yeah. They historically no one's we, we don't charge
[50:39] during that time period usually
[50:41] unless they'd like to be
[50:43] operating. So it would be up to them.
[50:46] What would be the open date for the new one?
[50:48] Oh, I March 1st probably
[50:50] When just golfing start.
[50:52] Yeah, I'd march. Have to look at on the
[50:54] Winter. But's normally around
[50:55] The weather.
[50:56] It was winter last year.
[50:59] Yeah. I'd have to check the, the current lease March 1st.
[51:03] I think March is probably when
[51:04] we're starting to charge a rent.
[51:06] Yeah. And we actually didn't even do that this year
[51:08] 'cause we didn't buy it until April.
[51:10] So I, from staff's perspective,
[51:14] I appreciate all your concerns.
[51:16] We're, we're working through this as best we can
[51:18] after purchasing
[51:19] and onboarding a new department starting in April.
[51:23] So do we really need to change the motion to do that?
[51:26] You just know that we wanna see it
[51:27] and it doesn't have to be in the motion, right? Because
[51:29] As, as long as everyone,
[51:30] What we're trying to do is the 90 day thing right now,
[51:31] As long as everyone's, yeah,
[51:33] it could be two separate things,
[51:34] but as long as you're all good with me bringing the RFP
[51:37] and people are interested, I just, it's like
[51:39] outside my process generally.
[51:42] So that's the only thing. So if everyone's fine with that,
[51:44] then I, no one's shaking their head this
[51:46] Way.
[51:47] I think what you just said was you just,
[51:48] you just onboarded a whole new department
[51:50] that's completely new to, to staff
[51:52] and it's been quite a undertaking going
[51:55] through this process, even if it is
[51:56] outside your regular processes,
[51:58] probably beneficial to everybody.
[52:01] Yeah. Yeah. Meaning like, yes.
[52:03] I, I think I fully support going through the steps
[52:06] and even if it requires a bit more work on our part and,
[52:09] and, and staff to, to, to make
[52:12] through which make sure that it's,
[52:14] And and just to throw one last, the branch.
[52:17] So there is time. So the 90 days is October 2nd,
[52:22] so that's the, that's the deadline.
[52:24] So it would need to be in September for the letter to
[52:28] Go.
[52:29] Yeah, it needs to be at this meeting or the next meeting.
[52:30] But it sounds like you wanna put the RFP out like
[52:33] September 22nd, which wouldn't give you very much time if we
[52:35] did it our next meeting.
[52:37] And I'm fine with doing it at this meeting.
[52:39] It's, I'm, I have no problem either way. So
[52:45] I, I move to move forward
[52:46] with the 90 day non renewal notice
[52:49] for the rough LL Cs I.
[52:58] We have a motion from Councillor BH Hall
[52:59] and a second from Councilor Rice
[53:00] to authorize the city manager to sign the 90 day notice
[53:03] of non-renewable to the RLLC in accordance
[53:06] with the terms of the lease agreement. Mayor House settler.
[53:10] No. Councillor Clancy.
[53:15] No. Councillor Marsh. Yes.
[53:20] Councillor Roberts. Yes. Councillor Rice. Yes.
[53:23] Councillor Grassley. Yes.
[53:25] Councillor Barnhold. Yes. Thank you. Motion passes.
[53:29] I'll bring the RFP to you all at the next meeting. Okay.
[53:32] That's perfect.
[53:37] Okay, now we're ready for a public hearing.
[53:40] Sorry about that guys. But it just, I just, oh
[53:42] No, I thought that was good.
[53:43] Thanks for no things coming
[53:45] because I wouldn't have known that was
[53:50] Alright, we're gonna, we're gonna have a public hearing
[53:54] to consider the rezoning Grand River Hospital District Lots
[53:57] and PUD amendment.
[53:58] Ordinance number 18 series of 2026 on first reading.
[54:04] I'm gonna open the public hearing.
[54:06] I'm gonna ask looks like gear to step forward
[54:09] and ask him if public notice been met.
[54:12] Yes, it has. All right, go ahead
[54:14] and give us your presentation
[54:16] Now.
[54:17] For whatever reason it decided to shut down.
[54:18] Oh, just so,
[54:22] And actually, mayor, before,
[54:23] before we start quickly, I need to recuse myself as a member
[54:27] of the Grand River Board of Directors from Issue eight A
[54:31] and issue nine A as well.
[54:33] Okay.
[54:34] You have it saved. He said
[54:39] this happens every time.
[54:49] Sorry. Sorry. There, it's,
[54:54] It's shut the minute I plugged in the
[54:55] HD MI it shut us itself off.
[54:58] It'll be fine. My computer doesn't like
[55:01] council chambers for some reason.
[55:05] No HDMI.
[55:08] I'm just glad it's on September 2nd. I'm sorry late.
[55:12] It's going. It's going now. Apologize
[55:17] One of these days. We'll figure it out.
[55:18] The eclipsed last week just messed everything up
[55:32] Mayor Counsel, what we have
[55:33] before you is a rezone application
[55:34] for the Grand River Plaza.
[55:37] Lots that Grand River Hospital District owns as well as
[55:41] amendment to their existing PUD for the hospital campus.
[55:52] Alright, well we'll do it that way.
[55:54] The applicant in this case is Justin Dip Pietro.
[55:56] He's with the Davis Partnership Architects.
[55:58] They are, the architects have done most
[56:00] of the work over at Grand River.
[56:01] Grand River Hospital District is the owner.
[56:04] The existing zoning on the hospital is L-A-P-U-D,
[56:08] which is light Industrial Planned Development.
[56:10] The zoning on the Grand River Plaza lots
[56:14] that they own is cs.
[56:15] What we're asking for is a rezone from CS on lots one
[56:19] through five, seven through 12 to the L-A-P-D-P-U-D
[56:23] and amending the existing PUD.
[56:27] Right now it's zoned with a height limit of 45 feet.
[56:32] The Grand River Plaza lots are zoned.
[56:34] Cs as I mentioned, the current
[56:37] three story patient wing in the medical a buildings
[56:40] currently do exceed the 45 foot height.
[56:42] The way we measure currently,
[56:44] what this POD amendment will do is bring these two
[56:48] or all the buildings on the campus into compliance.
[56:51] They are asking for 50 feet
[56:53] and this is to accommodate new equipment.
[56:56] They need about 15 feet per floor,
[56:58] which gets them a minimum of 45.
[57:00] And then by the time we get structure in there,
[57:03] they need a minimum of 50.
[57:05] They are requesting that parapets and so forth be exempt.
[57:09] That's all listed in the report here.
[57:11] Is this the same map showing the, the lots there is one lot
[57:15] that is not a part as in the comprehensive plan
[57:18] as community commercial.
[57:21] It is in our tier one growth area
[57:24] and it is a South rifle neighborhood.
[57:26] As you can see here. This is the one parcel
[57:29] listed is not a part, so it is owned separately.
[57:34] The PUD amendment, as I mentioned,
[57:36] will be increasing the height to 50 feet.
[57:39] We are asking that the li, I'm sorry,
[57:43] the height limitation exemptions be restricted
[57:46] or taken out of the code
[57:47] because it already exists in our zoning code.
[57:52] Quickly. This is the site plan of the existing hospital.
[57:56] You can see the proposed medical office building.
[57:58] It does cross three property lines.
[58:01] They have processed a lot line dissolution
[58:04] and that will be recorded.
[58:07] Quick note, this is what the building will look like
[58:10] as we'd like it from Megan from Airport Road, kind
[58:14] of looking towards out last chance
[58:17] and airport road looking directly west.
[58:21] So we did refer this out to our public works department
[58:25] and Colorado Risk, Colorado River Rescue.
[58:29] We felt that they were the two entities
[58:31] that had the most concerns about the building height.
[58:35] Currently, Colorado River does have the equipment
[58:37] to handle that height.
[58:39] They wouldn't have to do any more equipments.
[58:41] And as our Public works director says if as long
[58:44] as they're not going in the ground,
[58:46] he didn't really worry about it.
[58:49] The proposed lot line dissolution will accommodate future
[58:51] development of the Grand River Hospital campus.
[58:54] This re by removing
[58:56] the lot lines it we no longer have the obstacle of needing
[59:00] to do future lot line dissolutions and expanding
[59:03] and ex amending the existing LIPD will ensure
[59:06] that the hospital develops in a cohesive manner.
[59:08] And as I mentioned, the staff's only concern is no limited,
[59:11] no limitation language for the listed exceptions
[59:13] to the height limit.
[59:15] These exemptions currently exist in our code
[59:18] and approval of that language in the PUD would exempt them
[59:21] from future code amendments if we decide that we're going
[59:23] to amend that portion.
[59:25] So we didn't wanna give them that caveat forever.
[59:30] We did go through our standard findings
[59:31] and everything, met our tests.
[59:35] We are recommending approval.
[59:37] Well the planning zoning commission recommended approval
[59:38] of the rezone with these conditions.
[59:41] All representations made by the applicant in the application
[59:44] and during the public hearing shall be conditions
[59:45] of approval unless specifically
[59:47] altered by the planning commission.
[59:48] They didn't alternate anything.
[59:50] The applicant shall resolve all referral comments as a part
[59:53] of the final ll D plan submittal to the satisfaction of City
[59:56] of Rifle and outside reviewing agencies.
[59:59] Standard app or condition is applicant shall provide GIS
[1:00:03] information before the final plat is recorded.
[1:00:05] That way Erica can update our GIS layers
[1:00:08] and that we remove the no limitation language
[1:00:11] from the L-I-P-U-D.
[1:00:13] And with that I can answer any questions you may have.
[1:00:16] I saw housing on one of the slides. I I thought I did.
[1:00:20] Is there any housing or anything?
[1:00:21] There is no housing, no. I
[1:00:23] Just thought I saw something there
[1:00:25] On that side of the road.
[1:00:26] Not the, on that side of Megan anyway. Yeah.
[1:00:29] So what we have to the east is vacant
[1:00:33] county land across the street is the Fritz Land
[1:00:36] project if it ever takes off.
[1:00:38] Yeah. As well as the Hampton project.
[1:00:40] Across the street is Walmart and the retail
[1:00:42] and to the south is last chance ditch and vacant land.
[1:00:48] Excellent. Just wanted to make certain there wasn't gonna
[1:00:49] be on the street parked up there with
[1:00:51] that being the truck detour.
[1:00:53] It makes it hard when there's parking on there.
[1:00:56] Yeah, no, there is no parking proposed for Megan.
[1:00:59] Thank you.
[1:01:05] I I'm curious about Megan
[1:01:07] and I know that this doesn't, you know, specifically pertain
[1:01:12] to this rezone, but you know, with the increased traffic
[1:01:16] and the turn turning lanes coming in
[1:01:21] and out of Megan can kind of be an ordeal, especially
[1:01:26] for larger equipment, larger vehicles,
[1:01:31] specifically turning south onto Megan.
[1:01:36] Is there, you know, is there any risk
[1:01:38] of us losing the ability to widen Megan
[1:01:41] or make a turn lane there later on
[1:01:46] in the development by, by doing this?
[1:01:50] The traffic studies to the best of my knowledge,
[1:01:52] did not show any concerns in that regard.
[1:01:54] And Craig, our public works director would've noted
[1:01:57] that had that been
[1:01:58] A concern.
[1:01:59] And I don't think I agree with Michael.
[1:02:00] I think it's already a difficult turn.
[1:02:02] It's Horrible and it's bad.
[1:02:04] And once that building the new hospital building is there
[1:02:07] and the increase in traffic, it's only gonna get worse.
[1:02:11] Yeah. Yeah. Try driving an FF two 50 around that corner
[1:02:15] and you're out into the
[1:02:16] Traffic.
[1:02:17] If, if all the cars are in there traffic, you can't,
[1:02:18] you wouldn't be able to turn.
[1:02:20] I I'm not saying that all of Megan would need
[1:02:22] to be expanded, but I think turning lanes right there at
[1:02:26] that corner need to be looked at.
[1:02:29] I'm not sure what a traffic study showed,
[1:02:30] but we drive it, I drive it frequently
[1:02:34] And we can make that a condition of approval
[1:02:36] that they readdress that before.
[1:02:37] Yes. We do the final
[1:02:39] Flight.
[1:02:40] I think we need to,
[1:02:42] Like I say that is a, a truck route for the county.
[1:02:45] 'cause you can't take the wide loads through
[1:02:49] Oh Right.
[1:02:50] Pass the CDOT shop there.
[1:02:54] Is that part of this, I guess
[1:02:57] I agree with these guys.
[1:02:58] It's not part we're talking about right now. How do
[1:03:01] We, how do we raise that concern
[1:03:04] but in, in the appropriate
[1:03:07] Yeah. How do we get that place?
[1:03:09] The, the project itself has been approved
[1:03:11] and permitted already, right?
[1:03:12] No, no. That's what, that's
[1:03:14] what this is that needs this zoning. This
[1:03:16] Is just the last part, but the,
[1:03:18] we're not talking about turning lanes right now and the,
[1:03:22] and the p and z hasn't brought up turning lanes this entire
[1:03:25] Time.
[1:03:26] Right. And the, you've started the review
[1:03:27] of the site plan approval already. Yeah.
[1:03:29] They have submitted their building plans.
[1:03:32] We have not approved them as of yet because we need this,
[1:03:35] Because that's what would trigger it.
[1:03:37] And I, but I think it's been looked at even
[1:03:39] though it's not approved.
[1:03:41] Yeah. If, if the project doesn't require
[1:03:45] the improvement then,
[1:03:46] which I haven't heard anything about that.
[1:03:49] And, and our public works director is very familiar
[1:03:53] with the Megan intersection being substandard.
[1:03:57] So I was not here,
[1:03:59] but speaking for him, I assume that that would be something
[1:04:02] that he would've had reviewed
[1:04:04] to make sure there's adequate right of way
[1:04:06] to make sure we have a turning lane.
[1:04:07] But I don't have that from him for sure.
[1:04:10] So if we approve this, are we negating ourselves
[1:04:14] of being able to add in the turning lane later?
[1:04:21] If you want the hospital pay for it,
[1:04:23] Of course we can.
[1:04:25] Then you can.
[1:04:27] Well what we're just rezoning it right now. We're not
[1:04:31] But the rezones gonna allow the site plan app appro.
[1:04:34] Right. I guess you could still get it
[1:04:35] with the site plan approval because if it, if it triggers a,
[1:04:39] a traffic need, then you can require
[1:04:41] them to build the improvements.
[1:04:42] We will have public works review the site
[1:04:46] or the construction package before it's approved.
[1:04:49] So they will have to sign off on it
[1:04:50] and we can bring those concerns up to Craig.
[1:04:53] So you guys are talking about the right turn when you get
[1:04:56] to the end of Megan, not the left turn with the stop, right?
[1:04:58] No, no, no. Like if you turn right next to the Hampton
[1:05:00] to go to the back of the hospital airport south onto turn.
[1:05:04] Oh, just the turn onto Megan. Yes. The left hand.
[1:05:07] Even when you come out and then
[1:05:08] Change and even when you come out, it's,
[1:05:10] it's, it's very narrow.
[1:05:12] It's challenge, it's super narrow right now.
[1:05:14] I think it would be cool if all the
[1:05:15] parking lots were connected.
[1:05:17] 'cause this new parking lot's not gonna
[1:05:19] be connected for the rest of it.
[1:05:20] Yeah. And that's kind of crazy. Rest of the Grand
[1:05:21] River complex.
[1:05:23] So if you're like going from one building
[1:05:25] to another building in the complex, like, hey here,
[1:05:29] we're gonna send you over here for this
[1:05:30] or send you over here for an x-ray or,
[1:05:32] and I don't know how all that's gonna work there, but like
[1:05:36] Yeah, there's a driveway Right there. There
[1:05:38] Is a connection on the south side of the building.
[1:05:40] Oh, there is? Okay. Okay. I got it.
[1:05:42] I couldn't see it on that other one.
[1:05:44] I think that really helps a lot. I'm just talking about the
[1:05:46] With way you guys are talking Right. Turn off of
[1:05:48] Airport.
[1:05:49] You can still come, but you can still come into the main
[1:05:52] entrance of the hospital, cut across the
[1:05:54] parking lot and get over there. Yeah.
[1:05:55] Right. That's the way I get
[1:05:57] to everywhere on that complex. I
[1:05:58] Complex.
[1:05:59] I mean if you're going to physical therapy right now,
[1:06:00] I realize that that's gonna be in the new building.
[1:06:02] But you have to turn down Megan, you have
[1:06:03] to go back down to the back of the hospital.
[1:06:05] And if there's, I'm
[1:06:07] Not sure what you would do to that to,
[1:06:08] to make that left hand.
[1:06:10] I understand the right hand turn if you put
[1:06:12] like a turning lane in there.
[1:06:13] Yeah. And that might help the left hand
[1:06:15] turn if there's actually a turning. Yeah. If
[1:06:16] The whole thing is wider.
[1:06:18] Yep. It's it's all about the
[1:06:21] the the intersection is very 90 degrees.
[1:06:23] Yeah. Is the problem. Very not right.
[1:06:26] A lot of turning radius there.
[1:06:29] It the airport road right of way just pulling it up is,
[1:06:34] is wide.
[1:06:36] So that helps for the turf. And Megan is not off airport.
[1:06:38] Megan is, and Megan is not Megan's narrow,
[1:06:41] but I think it's not necessarily the issue of the right it.
[1:06:45] Right. I'm sort of getting outside my scope,
[1:06:47] but I assume that Craig's looked at,
[1:06:52] I think the challenge is we are at a position
[1:06:55] where we don't want to miss out on our opportunity
[1:06:58] to make sure we highlight exactly this need.
[1:07:00] Exactly. And get too far beyond without bringing it up.
[1:07:03] So if there is another step,
[1:07:06] If we have another, there's
[1:07:07] A, there's a building permit issuance is the next step.
[1:07:10] Yes. And that will come before us.
[1:07:11] Doesn't catch that won't come before us. See as
[1:07:13] Long.
[1:07:14] It's just gonna go to planning. Right.
[1:07:15] Need to, so right now you're,
[1:07:16] you first reading of the ordinance.
[1:07:17] If you wanna act on it, you can,
[1:07:18] there's still a second reading, which
[1:07:19] by then we'll have talked to Craig
[1:07:21] and have a lot more information
[1:07:23] and can bring that up on second
[1:07:25] reading if there is a problem.
[1:07:27] But we also have the site plan approval,
[1:07:29] which is a building permit, which the code requires them to
[1:07:33] construct and needed improvements if that
[1:07:37] project triggers it. Doubtful.
[1:07:41] Yep. There's a lot of stuff already there,
[1:07:46] but if this pushes it over the edge,
[1:07:49] It's a pretty good increase in traffic I would assume.
[1:07:51] Yeah. Yeah. There's, it'd Be huge.
[1:07:54] I mean That
[1:07:55] Should be the triggering point,
[1:07:56] Right?
[1:07:57] We're going down Late, the percentage increase based on
[1:07:59] the overall hospital traffic.
[1:08:01] It's small.
[1:08:02] Yeah. That's what I'm, yeah.
[1:08:04] Craig, Craig did go through this analysis
[1:08:06] and we talked about the, the intersection being improved and
[1:08:11] 'cause we, this was brought up
[1:08:14] previously about should Megan be improved or not with this
[1:08:16] Project, even back when
[1:08:17] we were talking about FirstLine, right? FirstLine,
[1:08:20] Yeah. We even definitely talked
[1:08:22] Likely then, but I wasn't here for that.
[1:08:24] But we've talked about it for this project specifically.
[1:08:26] And the numbers that were produced from this project didn't
[1:08:29] warrant the hospital paying
[1:08:32] for any additional improvement to this intersection.
[1:08:34] I think that was the same with Fritz. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:08:37] I just, so while we understand that there's, you know,
[1:08:40] maybe it's not the best intersection.
[1:08:42] It it, Craig didn't see this
[1:08:44] as the hospital being the trigger
[1:08:46] to make the improvement on Megan.
[1:08:48] It's already bad. So it's,
[1:08:49] I know it's already bad the way it is right now. So
[1:08:52] They will be paying all of their standard impact fees
[1:08:55] to the street fund, which,
[1:08:57] So then in the future it's gonna be on the city to,
[1:08:59] to widen that portion.
[1:09:00] It wouldn't be all of Megan. It's only that turning portion.
[1:09:04] And it, it is the reason
[1:09:05] for our street impact fees is the,
[1:09:07] if you aren't causing the entirety of the problem that you
[1:09:10] Had Yeah. Oh yeah. Pay
[1:09:11] Off your for future improvements.
[1:09:14] That one's tough to say.
[1:09:15] Obviously there's a lot going on over there.
[1:09:17] It's not just the hospital
[1:09:20] And Any, anybody that's here from Grand River tonight,
[1:09:22] we really want this project to happen.
[1:09:24] I just, it's just we're just Yeah.
[1:09:26] I'm talking about and we're talking, and right now we're
[1:09:28] talking about allowing a 50 foot Yeah.
[1:09:31] That, Yeah. A five foot raise in the,
[1:09:33] and I think we should probably just stick to that right now.
[1:09:36] And,
[1:09:37] But, but I wanna understand, is this a,
[1:09:39] like this is a concern.
[1:09:40] Let let our staff take care of the rest of it.
[1:09:42] Yeah. We, I'm asking of Jim, I guess like
[1:09:46] Yeah, I mean there's the building permit
[1:09:48] issuance, right? Yeah.
[1:09:49] You, I I just went through this. I'll go through it again.
[1:09:51] You can. No, I know. I just That's
[1:09:53] what making clear. Yeah.
[1:09:54] And I mean these kind
[1:09:56] of decisions are difficult like this.
[1:09:58] And I know that you want it fixed,
[1:10:00] but we, we have professional staff that's looking at it
[1:10:03] and doing it lawfully
[1:10:04] and I don't want an arbitrary capricious decision
[1:10:07] to just go flying out from your DAAs on us.
[1:10:10] Yeah. So, but you can take action on this
[1:10:14] ordinance on first reading.
[1:10:16] We will get Craig here for second reading.
[1:10:18] We'll not put it on your consent agenda.
[1:10:20] And you also have, that's the rezoning
[1:10:22] that allows this to happen.
[1:10:24] And then you also have the site plan approval building
[1:10:27] permit, which the RIF municipal code requires any offsite
[1:10:31] impacts to be mitigated as part of their project.
[1:10:34] However, I'm just letting you know there's a really good
[1:10:37] chance that this increase isn't going to be enough
[1:10:41] to put this on the hospital as much
[1:10:43] as we have a problem. I see what you're saying. And
[1:10:45] That, and that's okay.
[1:10:47] I just wanted, I think knowing that is helpful Good
[1:10:50] with this in my opinion. Yeah.
[1:10:53] Is there any other questions from Council for Gear?
[1:10:58] Do we have any comments
[1:11:02] or questions from the public?
[1:11:09] Oh, man. All right. I'm gonna close the public hearing.
[1:11:15] Any other discussion from the council on this?
[1:11:20] Yes. We not hearing. I would entertain a motion.
[1:11:24] It's not sure. I'll move to approve rezoning a portion
[1:11:28] of Grand River Hospital District lots, one through five
[1:11:31] and seven through 12 in the amendment
[1:11:33] to the Grand River Health PUD ordinance number 18 series
[1:11:37] of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:11:40] and ordered, published as char required by charter.
[1:11:44] Second We have a motion from Councilor Clancy
[1:11:48] and the second from Councillor Marsh
[1:11:50] to approve rezoning portion
[1:11:52] of Grand River Hospital District lots.
[1:11:54] One through five and seven through 12.
[1:11:56] And the amendment to the Grand River Health PUD ordinance
[1:11:58] number 18 series of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:12:02] and ordered, published as required
[1:12:04] by Charter Councillor Grassley.
[1:12:06] Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes. Councillor Roberts. Yes.
[1:12:10] Mayor ha Settler. Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes.
[1:12:13] Councillor Bool. Yes.
[1:12:14] Thank You. Motion passes.
[1:12:18] Thanks. Gear. You stand here. Yeah. We have another.
[1:12:22] All right. Regular agenda item nine.
[1:12:23] A consider approving the vacation of right of way
[1:12:28] and easements within the Grand River Health
[1:12:31] District campus Ordinance number 19 series of 2026.
[1:12:35] First reading.
[1:12:37] So mayor and council, with the lot line dissolution,
[1:12:40] there are multiple easements
[1:12:41] and rights of way that are no longer necessary to
[1:12:45] function with this project.
[1:12:47] When we do record the lot line dissolution,
[1:12:50] new easements will be recorded with the plat.
[1:12:53] That makes sense. And that we will work with the project
[1:13:03] And Yeah. And we,
[1:13:04] Its continuation of what we just did,
[1:13:06] Right?
[1:13:07] Yeah. And it's just cleaning it all up.
[1:13:07] And we, we do have the applicant here if there's any
[1:13:09] specific questions, I don't think they're gonna be able
[1:13:11] to answer all those traffic questions. Right?
[1:13:13] I Don't think so. But, but if you have any questions
[1:13:15] about the project itself, you,
[1:13:19] you do have an applicant here.
[1:13:20] Kind of a continuous Yeah.
[1:13:23] I'll wing it. It's not only screen,
[1:13:25] but make a motion to approve the vacation of the right
[1:13:28] of way and easements within ground.
[1:13:30] Grand River Health District.
[1:13:32] Campus ordinance number 19, series
[1:13:34] of 2026 on the first reading
[1:13:39] As presented and ordered, published by, by Chad.
[1:13:43] I'm just making sure Alexis has it. I know you did.
[1:13:47] I'm trying to help you. You
[1:13:48] Still need a second? Sorry.
[1:13:49] Second. Second. Oh, sorry.
[1:13:51] It's okay. I was just trying to help.
[1:13:53] We have a motion from Councillor Marsh
[1:13:55] and a second from Councilor Grassley to approve the vacation
[1:13:57] of right away and easements within the
[1:13:59] Grand River Health District campus.
[1:14:01] It's pretty official. Ordinance number 19 series
[1:14:03] of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:14:06] and ordered, published as required
[1:14:07] by Charter Councillor Grassley.
[1:14:09] Yes. Councillor Bhu. Yes. Mayor Hostettler. Yes.
[1:14:12] Councillor Clancy. Yes. Councillor Roberts. Yes.
[1:14:15] Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Rice.
[1:14:19] I recused. Okay.
[1:14:22] Thank you. Sorry, I didn't mean No, you're
[1:14:27] Okay.
[1:14:28] The gr Grand River's done for now. All right.
[1:14:32] But you will, we'll keep second reading Yep.
[1:14:35] On, on the regular agenda on both those
[1:14:38] ordinances 'cause they go together.
[1:14:39] Okay. For your next meeting
[1:14:41] and we'll get, we worked really hard on have Craig come
[1:14:45] and answer questions. Yep. Okay.
[1:14:48] Okay. Item nine B,
[1:14:51] consider relocating expired city water tap associated
[1:14:54] with booms place water tank.
[1:15:00] Good evening, mayor. Counsel.
[1:15:01] So tonight we have an agreement that was entered into
[1:15:06] by the city in 2002 that allocated
[1:15:11] a number of easements for the water tank up at Boom's Place
[1:15:17] in exchange for those easements.
[1:15:19] The city granted the owner for water taps.
[1:15:25] Three of those water taps have been utilized to date.
[1:15:29] One had been expired
[1:15:31] as there was a time limit set on the water tap tap usage.
[1:15:37] And we have an applicant who has requested
[1:15:39] that the fourth water tap be reinstated for use
[1:15:44] in the county at the property.
[1:15:50] I'm here.
[1:15:54] Hi. My wife and I, our Fran and Lisa Oroz,
[1:15:58] and we had just bought this property from Chuck Karen
[1:16:00] and Chuck was trying to get this water tap reinstated so
[1:16:05] that we could have water to the property from the city.
[1:16:09] And Chuck got sick.
[1:16:11] And so we have taken this on from him.
[1:16:15] He's one of my customers and he's a good friend.
[1:16:17] And so I told him I would take this on
[1:16:19] and see if you guys would be willing to reinstate that tap
[1:16:22] so that we can start to build up there for a garage
[1:16:27] that we want to build in a house for our kids.
[1:16:31] But the the, the water tap itself isn't in question.
[1:16:34] It's whether they're being charged
[1:16:36] for the water tap, right? Yep.
[1:16:37] Yeah, yeah.
[1:16:39] We have, we have the availability of water up there.
[1:16:44] What's the water tank easement like?
[1:16:48] What's that part of this?
[1:16:49] I'm, I'm not sure that I understand that.
[1:16:51] The northeast tank, correct? Yeah.
[1:16:53] There's a water tank up there.
[1:16:55] There is. And we're not, not disrupting that easement
[1:17:00] that we got that put in place.
[1:17:01] Yeah. In exchange for this water tap.
[1:17:03] Yep. There, yeah, there's there all
[1:17:05] of the infrastructure exists.
[1:17:07] Currently we're using the easements that we created back,
[1:17:11] you know, 20 some years ago.
[1:17:15] And so this is a, basically, at that time it was stated,
[1:17:21] I think it was 15 years is what they had from the time of
[1:17:26] recordation of the, of the water tap availability notice.
[1:17:30] So that was April 10th, 2003
[1:17:34] and then that established April 6th, 2018
[1:17:37] as the expiration date for any non-used
[1:17:41] tap connections at that time.
[1:17:43] And so we've, like I said, we have three folks
[1:17:46] that have pulled those taps from that agreement.
[1:17:49] And then we had the fourth, that expired after 2018.
[1:17:53] So we, we got easements in a water tank site from Robin,
[1:17:56] Fritz, Lynn, and part of the compensation was water taps.
[1:18:00] 'cause I think she had envisioned subdivision and,
[1:18:04] but there was a, a terminate, a drop dead date
[1:18:07] to use them just so things don't go on forever.
[1:18:08] Yeah. And so that was
[1:18:10] 20 and they had expired.
[1:18:11] Yeah. 2018 And the property's changed
[1:18:14] hands. Three three
[1:18:15] Of them have been used. So
[1:18:16] There's only Right, yeah.
[1:18:17] One, this is the one has expired.
[1:18:20] Is there a new expiration date built into this
[1:18:24] or is it just open-ended?
[1:18:25] Nope. The there basically what's what,
[1:18:27] Like this is 28 Before you is a consideration of,
[1:18:31] of an amendment if you want to.
[1:18:33] And if that is the case,
[1:18:34] then we would establish what that looks like.
[1:18:37] So I don't know. I was just asking the question
[1:18:38] if there was a new, so
[1:18:40] If we don't do anything, do they have to pay
[1:18:42] for the water temp if they want to get one later?
[1:18:44] Yeah. And that's the 10,000
[1:18:46] 2 86.
[1:18:47] It's a, it's one and a half times the in city rate.
[1:18:51] Okay. Yeah. The agreement expired.
[1:18:53] They're trying to bring it back kind of, no.
[1:18:56] Yeah, but they had an expiration date
[1:18:59] to avoid it not being used.
[1:19:01] That's all I'm asking is do we put another
[1:19:02] expiration date on it for any?
[1:19:04] That depends if You, that's, yeah.
[1:19:07] We, if you guys approve this, we will,
[1:19:10] you'll have the water tap paid.
[1:19:12] And like I said, Chuck had bought this when he was married.
[1:19:15] He got divorced and we,
[1:19:18] We'll, we'll, we'll give you water. Okay.
[1:19:21] Yeah. You're not losing the water tap.
[1:19:23] It's whether you have to pay for it or not. I'm happy to.
[1:19:24] Those were okay. Okay then we then we don't even have,
[1:19:27] There's Not Oh yeah, there's, I mean
[1:19:29] I I I'm just wondering,
[1:19:30] there was an expiration date to begin with. The reason
[1:19:33] Was, and it was 2018.
[1:19:34] And if you re reli, I mean,
[1:19:36] I mean I actually wrote this. No,
[1:19:38] No, I'm Not, I'm just looking at my handwriting on it.
[1:19:41] I You have to put it, you have to. Yeah.
[1:19:44] I see your concern, sir. You need water for the house.
[1:19:46] You can have water for the house. We were one.
[1:19:48] I think the hard thing is, is well this thing's expired
[1:19:50] and you're like, can I still have a free water
[1:19:52] tap? No, I'm not
[1:19:53] Looking for that.
[1:19:54] Oh my gosh. Thought was so geez.
[1:19:58] Yeah, yeah. No problem.
[1:20:00] You can apply to the, to city hall
[1:20:01] and get, it would be nice if you wanted to get I, well I,
[1:20:05] it was a very tough thing to do for these, these guys.
[1:20:07] 'cause like, well it expired, right?
[1:20:08] It been eight years and you do have to have a,
[1:20:11] as the lawyer, it's like, well, it's their decision,
[1:20:13] but I'm like, it had an expiration for a reason. Is there a
[1:20:17] Great, is there a reason we couldn't
[1:20:19] compromise on something like this?
[1:20:22] I you'd be giving money away.
[1:20:24] They do part, like I would,
[1:20:25] if it was Robin, Fritz, Lynn still.
[1:20:29] I would, and actually she, I I as the lawyer
[1:20:32] who wrote the expiration,
[1:20:34] you should have come in in a couple weeks before it expired
[1:20:37] and, and then and asked for can we extend it then
[1:20:40] and give my circumstantial evidence on why?
[1:20:42] And this one's just kind of tough.
[1:20:45] It's like if it's totally new
[1:20:46] Owner.
[1:20:47] Yeah, yeah. If anyone just came in
[1:20:48] and asked you for something, right. Like that's, and it
[1:20:50] Doesn't sound like it was hell. Which
[1:20:51] Is great.
[1:20:53] So what, what are you, what are you speaking
[1:20:54] of, Scott? You're saying
[1:20:55] Like giving compensation tough off.
[1:20:57] So I mean they, they,
[1:20:59] they did what they said they were doing.
[1:21:00] They gave you the easements, everything
[1:21:02] But cheese.
[1:21:03] But, but it's,
[1:21:04] but we're like three property owners away from that now.
[1:21:07] But we still have the easement in place.
[1:21:08] Yeah. Yeah. The easements
[1:21:09] still have, we're all good there. So
[1:21:10] What are, what are you compromising?
[1:21:12] My, my thought would be work with them a little bit
[1:21:16] and say, have 'em pay what the normal city tap would be.
[1:21:19] That is the normal city town.
[1:21:23] They're out, they're outta city. Oh.
[1:21:25] Like, like, and
[1:21:27] I, I get if you go that direction, I just want some reason
[1:21:29] so that not everyone just comes and asks.
[1:21:32] I just curious. I just feel like paying
[1:21:34] For it. I was just curious.
[1:21:35] Yeah, no, I I I, I appreciate good about this generosity,
[1:21:38] but I just don't want precedent that I can't. Yeah, yeah.
[1:21:41] It's true. No, I understand. We still need to move
[1:21:42] to deny at this point.
[1:21:44] You, I think you just don't take any action.
[1:21:47] Take any It is, it is what it is. Okay.
[1:21:50] And can you help? And you can still get water,
[1:21:52] the gentleman understand whether he should do contact
[1:21:54] Patrick or the water or to get his water set up.
[1:21:57] Oh, be
[1:21:59] In contact with you.
[1:22:00] Yep. I'm good with that. Like I said,
[1:22:01] You just wanted to make sure you got water right.
[1:22:03] Exactly. Like I said, Chuck didn't realize
[1:22:05] that there was an expiration or he forgot.
[1:22:08] I don't know which. But yeah,
[1:22:09] That's just The expiration was for the free water tap
[1:22:13] for the, not for the water tap itself.
[1:22:15] I'm happy to, we're happy to pay for it.
[1:22:16] Just so we got water to the lot.
[1:22:18] No water. Totally Fine.
[1:22:21] No action taken. That was easy.
[1:22:23] Thank you. Thank you. Thanks guys.
[1:22:24] Thanks for coming in. Thanks for your honesty.
[1:22:28] We've had a complicated item nine C orders.
[1:22:32] Consider amending article three of chapter four
[1:22:35] of the rifle municipal code to amend procedural standards.
[1:22:39] Ordinance number 17 series
[1:22:41] of 2026 on first reading Iris.
[1:22:50] Good evening mayor and counsel. This evening.
[1:22:53] I am presenting to you the request
[1:22:55] to amend the procurement standards.
[1:22:58] The city recently,
[1:22:59] the city last time the city updated its procurement code
[1:23:02] was in 2022.
[1:23:04] And during that procurement update,
[1:23:07] they removed the comparative pricing.
[1:23:09] After reviewing our current standards
[1:23:12] and how we have been purchasing, we have taken a look
[1:23:17] and we are requesting that we
[1:23:19] increase our existing procurement threshold
[1:23:21] and add back the comparative pricing.
[1:23:24] We are recommending the increase so that we are able
[1:23:27] to do comparative pricing
[1:23:28] that will provide more efficiency purchasing methods
[1:23:32] with lower dollar pri, lower dollar purchases.
[1:23:35] And we'll still ensure competitive pricing.
[1:23:38] This was brought to you guys in two workshops
[1:23:40] and if you guys have any questions, please let me know.
[1:23:44] I just have one structure.
[1:23:46] What does a competitive pricing do?
[1:23:49] How do we, if the someone bid say 80,000 on a hundred
[1:23:53] thousand dollars project, why does it matter
[1:23:56] what the competitive pricing is to
[1:23:58] The other?
[1:23:59] So competitive pricing will strictly be on purchasing
[1:24:01] of items not a bid.
[1:24:03] So in reference to like a service of like design services
[1:24:06] or engineering services or construction,
[1:24:08] that will still follow the bid process.
[1:24:11] This is more for small items, might be equipment,
[1:24:13] may be vehicles, materials
[1:24:17] that are the kind of things that we're looking at.
[1:24:20] So instead of going the cooperative purchase route A,
[1:24:25] what we may do is we'll take a look
[1:24:27] and see what our local vendors
[1:24:30] Are.
[1:24:31] So instead of taking the state, so the example, instead
[1:24:33] of taking a state bid on a a vehicle
[1:24:36] and explorer, we'll just say you're gonna go look at
[1:24:39] Columbine Ford and Glenwood Ford
[1:24:41] and whoever the one is injunction.
[1:24:43] You're gonna look at that along with that. Okay.
[1:24:45] Correct. And then they have the opportunity.
[1:24:47] And then a good example also would be
[1:24:49] what we went through with our hvac.
[1:24:51] We didn't have that much response.
[1:24:53] So, and it's also a smaller project.
[1:24:55] There's are mainly under a hundred thousand.
[1:24:57] So we would go to the two, three local
[1:25:01] businesses within the area, ask them for quotes,
[1:25:04] do the review, look at our procedures,
[1:25:06] and then present it makes
[1:25:08] Sense.
[1:25:09] And not require the bond until it's,
[1:25:11] till they have been awarded the contract.
[1:25:12] So yeah, doing it that way.
[1:25:14] They would be no bid bond,
[1:25:16] but there would still be a performance
[1:25:17] bond and payment bond,
[1:25:19] Which is a lot easier for smaller contractors.
[1:25:21] Yes, yes. Know all about that.
[1:25:26] I think this is great. This is
[1:25:27] best practices in purchasing.
[1:25:29] This is the way it should go.
[1:25:30] And we had it and then we lost it.
[1:25:32] I dunno why we got now it's back.
[1:25:33] This is the way it, it works. It's shocking. Yes. Yes.
[1:25:39] And mostly the, a lot of this is also just updating our,
[1:25:44] the amounts of so that you guys don't have to come check in
[1:25:47] with us for a $20,000 purchase that Patrick can Correct.
[1:25:51] So yes, this will increase the city manager's approval
[1:25:55] from currently 25,000 to 90,000.
[1:25:58] I think that's a good idea too.
[1:26:00] Which sounds like a lot, but it's,
[1:26:02] It's very much in line with today's it's anymore.
[1:26:05] Yeah. Yep.
[1:26:07] And this can be updated in the future. Yep. Hog wild.
[1:26:11] Yes, exactly. And we still have our audit.
[1:26:15] Yes. And your budget and Yep, yep, yep.
[1:26:19] And it's still a small community,
[1:26:21] Easier efficiencies, right? Yeah. Yeah.
[1:26:23] We'll still follow the process.
[1:26:27] I move to approve amendment of article three
[1:26:30] of chapter four of the rifle municipal code
[1:26:32] to amend procurement standard
[1:26:34] standards ordinance number 17 series of 2026
[1:26:38] on first reading and ordered publish as required by charter.
[1:26:42] I'll second
[1:26:44] We have a motion from Councillor Grassley
[1:26:46] and a second from Councillor Roberts to approve amendment
[1:26:49] of article three of chapter four of the rifle municipal code
[1:26:52] to amend procurement standards.
[1:26:54] Ordinance number 17 series of 2026 on first reading
[1:26:57] and ordered, published as required
[1:26:59] by Charter Councillor Roberts.
[1:27:01] Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Bool. Yes.
[1:27:04] Councillor Rice. Yes. Councillor Grassley. Yes.
[1:27:06] Mayor Hostettler. Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes.
[1:27:09] Thank you. And one more item here.
[1:27:13] Item nine D, consider awarding contract
[1:27:16] for fall cleanup trucking services.
[1:27:18] So every year for our fall cleanup, we hire a outside
[1:27:23] contractor to bring in to do all of our hauling
[1:27:26] of all the material that is collected.
[1:27:29] According to our procurement process, we posted a request
[1:27:32] for bid for three years of trucking services,
[1:27:35] which was posted in the, on the city website
[1:27:38] and on July 28th.
[1:27:39] And the citizen telegraph a mandatory pre-bid
[1:27:44] withheld at city o and m with only one vendor in attendance.
[1:27:48] The bid is structured to award the contract to the lowest,
[1:27:53] lowest price qualified bidder.
[1:27:55] However, because there was only one bid,
[1:27:58] we are meeting those standards.
[1:28:00] The bid that we received is for an hourly.
[1:28:03] We requested that they gave us a bid for hourly.
[1:28:06] Hourly for 20 26, 20 27 and 2028.
[1:28:10] The totals that you're seeing are 24,000,
[1:28:13] twenty four thousand eight hundred twenty five thousand six hundred.
[1:28:16] This is the same vendor that we used last year.
[1:28:19] And at the end of the event they only used 85 hours,
[1:28:22] which was a total of 12,397.
[1:28:25] So it's, we were requesting that maximum amount from them so
[1:28:29] that if worst case scenario they was a situation
[1:28:34] where we needed those hours, they were available,
[1:28:36] but we foresee
[1:28:38] that it would be under the $24,000 match or request.
[1:28:43] We did have some inquiries from brokers,
[1:28:46] however, we did advise them that due to the safety aspects
[1:28:49] of the operation, we only wanted prime contract holders
[1:28:53] to attend the pre-bid.
[1:28:57] Okay. I don't remember this ever coming to us before, you
[1:29:00] Know, so Historically and,
[1:29:02] and would it, would it come to us next year
[1:29:04] or in three years because now we are under 80,000.
[1:29:08] No, it, It would not come to you.
[1:29:10] This is coming because there is a number in this
[1:29:13] that goes over 25,000. Oh
[1:29:15] Okay. Right now,
[1:29:15] Because there is a year One number for one
[1:29:18] Year ordinance doesn't take effect for 10 more days.
[1:29:20] Got it. After second reading.
[1:29:22] Yeah, after second reading. So we've never seen it
[1:29:25] before because it, this is the first time one
[1:29:27] of the years went over 25,000.
[1:29:28] Yep. So last year we bid it out and I think it was 24
[1:29:31] Grand, right? Yeah. It
[1:29:32] Was only for one year was last year.
[1:29:33] The first year we outsourced it. Oh.
[1:29:36] 'cause so we didn't, we used to,
[1:29:38] We reason why we actually bid it last year is
[1:29:41] 'cause it went over the $10,000 mark,
[1:29:42] which is the directors.
[1:29:44] Yeah. Years prior it has been the same vendor
[1:29:48] and it's just been in that sweet spot.
[1:29:51] Yeah. And we don't use staff anymore. Right. We
[1:29:54] Do use staff for all the Cleanup
[1:29:55] and so we still do but not
[1:29:56] For the truck.
[1:29:57] They just haul. They just
[1:29:58] Haul.
[1:29:59] Oh, okay. That's where I was dump. Wow. That's crazy.
[1:30:03] It's a big lift by staff. They're just
[1:30:05] Yeah, it is.
[1:30:06] That's why I was like, yeah,
[1:30:07] we should probably outsource this a big lift
[1:30:08] as long. But they would
[1:30:10] Love that.
[1:30:11] It'd be a lot more than that if they had to do everything.
[1:30:12] We tried to rope, we tried to do it as part of our trash
[1:30:16] removal and put it in the bid,
[1:30:19] but none of the folks
[1:30:21] who applied wanted to said they would do
[1:30:23] It. Yeah.
[1:30:24] Well that was a chicken
[1:30:27] different Jonathan's.
[1:30:31] I am, I move to approve the three year agreement
[1:30:35] with DIT investments for 20 26, 20 27
[1:30:39] and 2028 for an amount not to exceed $74,400.
[1:30:44] I'll second that with the amendment
[1:30:46] that it's DTT, is that correct?
[1:30:49] DIT. What did I say? It's blurry.
[1:30:56] I got it. Now
[1:30:58] We have a motion from Councillor Rice
[1:31:00] and a second from Councillor Marsh
[1:31:01] to approve a three year agreement with DTT investments
[1:31:05] for 20 26, 20 27
[1:31:06] and 2028 for an amount not to exceed $74,400.
[1:31:11] Councillor Clancy.
[1:31:12] Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councilor Roberts. Yes.
[1:31:15] Councillor Rice. Yes. Mayor Hostettler. Yes.
[1:31:18] Councillor Grassley. Yes. Councillor Ol. Yes. Thank you.
[1:31:23] All right. Administrative reports report from city
[1:31:27] manager Patrick.
[1:31:28] Thank you Mayor. A few more things.
[1:31:31] One on here was the CPW letter submittal,
[1:31:34] but Iris clarified that in workshop.
[1:31:36] So good news, we were accepted to fully apply for the grant
[1:31:40] for the South Rifle project.
[1:31:42] That's great. Alright.
[1:31:44] The update on projects is,
[1:31:48] so the third in park project is gonna be
[1:31:50] the first one to be paved.
[1:31:52] It's looking like, should be done middle of September.
[1:31:55] And then everything else is on
[1:31:57] pace for the end of September.
[1:31:59] Both Grand Mason and White River.
[1:32:01] So appreciate folks patience as we move through that
[1:32:04] fall cleanup is coming up really important
[1:32:08] that folks are careful around our staff.
[1:32:12] There's a lot of staff walking around, lots
[1:32:14] of trucks backing up, all that sort of stuff
[1:32:17] Starts on September 20th, east of Railroad Avenue
[1:32:21] and then west of Railroad is September 27th.
[1:32:26] So really great service
[1:32:28] that the city provide and provides this year.
[1:32:30] We're also doing a tire pickup.
[1:32:33] Not pick up, you have to drop 'em off,
[1:32:35] but you will have a tire drop off available for folks.
[1:32:40] Good idea. We're in the city of rifle.
[1:32:42] We don't want any county people coming in with their tires.
[1:32:45] So We'll be checking IDs. Make
[1:32:48] Sure you are a rifle resident.
[1:32:50] Limited to eight tires for the drop off.
[1:32:52] Yeah, but your ID still says rifle even if you're in town.
[1:32:57] I know the streets address is the drop off at the OM
[1:33:00] Facility. It is correct. Okay.
[1:33:02] Does that work? Did they put New tires on my car
[1:33:04] Is, yeah.
[1:33:05] No. The only one we take the said I didn't.
[1:33:10] Only other thing. CML dinner. Just a reminder for you all.
[1:33:14] September 10th at 5:00 PM So that will be
[1:33:17] before our next meeting up at the golf course
[1:33:20] Next Thursday, right?
[1:33:22] Yes.
[1:33:23] Yep. And that's all that I have.
[1:33:25] Great. That was your last chance to impress us before you
[1:33:30] After some Of the bumps here.
[1:33:37] Alexis, nothing for me. Jim, thank you.
[1:33:39] Nothing Zach, nothing for meeting. Thanks. Anything gear?
[1:33:44] Nope. Iris nothing for me. It's chief. Nothing.
[1:33:49] No sir. Wow. You don't even have
[1:33:52] to stand up, but that's very polite.
[1:33:56] All right. I think we're back over here Jonathan.
[1:34:00] I don't think I have anything either.
[1:34:01] Holy, we do have more work to do tonight,
[1:34:06] so I know. I'm trying.
[1:34:09] I can't even think, I don't think I have anything
[1:34:12] 'cause I can't remember what it is.
[1:34:15] So. Oh, we did have the A GNC meeting for
[1:34:20] ECI Can't do all our letters.
[1:34:25] And we had a meeting for our, at the
[1:34:29] New Castle Library that went really well.
[1:34:33] That's about all I can remember. Sorry.
[1:34:37] Anything I have, it's September 2nd official start
[1:34:39] to hunting season for those
[1:34:41] who celebrate this long, long season.
[1:34:44] But welcome hunters. There's big community here
[1:34:47] that does come from all over to spend time in,
[1:34:50] in rifle and beyond.
[1:34:51] So welcome and good luck to everybody.
[1:34:57] Nothing from me. Nothing from me.
[1:35:01] I will say that a lot of staff and council went down and,
[1:35:05] and toward the B site down in
[1:35:09] Grand Junction, a business incubator.
[1:35:11] And it's an amazing place.
[1:35:12] And we're talking about having eventual some kind
[1:35:17] of a partnership with them to try
[1:35:19] to get some economic development here
[1:35:21] and some small business startups.
[1:35:23] So that's an exciting new development.
[1:35:27] And with that, do I close the regular meeting?
[1:35:31] No, you're gonna move to go into executives.
[1:35:33] I moved to go into executive session
[1:35:38] for discussion of personal matter under CRS section 24 dash
[1:35:42] six dash 4 0 2 2 F.
[1:35:45] And not involving any specific employee
[1:35:49] employees have requested discussion
[1:35:51] of the matter to open session.
[1:35:53] Any member of this body
[1:35:54] or any elected official, the appointment of any person
[1:35:57] to fill an office of this body or an elected official
[1:36:02] or personal policies that do not require the discussion
[1:36:06] of matters personal to particular employees.
[1:36:12] So now we need a second. Second. Second. Yep. Okay.
[1:36:15] And you don't need to read it all. Alexis, you
[1:36:19] Just a motion?
[1:36:20] Yeah, yeah. We have a motion from
[1:36:24] Mayor Clint Hoss settler
[1:36:25] and a second from Scott Marsh
[1:36:26] to move into the executive session.
[1:36:29] And we need a roll call.
[1:36:31] Council Clancy? Yes. Councilor Marsh? Yes.
[1:36:34] Councilor Roberts. Yes. Councillor Rice? Yes.
[1:36:38] Mayor Hostettler? Yes. Councilor Grassley? Yes.
[1:36:40] Councillor BH Hall?
[1:36:41] No, because they got skipped in the
[1:36:43] meeting for my comments.
[1:36:45] Okay. Yes, I did get skipped, but yes.
[1:36:48] Oh, Karen just skipped right over you.
[1:36:50] Karen doesn't care. I know you didn't say anything.
[1:36:54] I didn't have a chance. You talking.
[1:36:56] Do you wanna say your comments before we go?
[1:36:58] No, we're not out yet. We're not out yet. Not now.
[1:37:02] I have to wait and then the, I have to wait.
[1:37:05] The meeting will be adjourned
[1:37:07] after the executive session with no decisions made.
[1:37:11] So now you're just floating on. We won't, decisions made.
[1:37:16] Don't say stuff like that. But we
[1:37:18] won't return either, right?
[1:37:19] We don't. You're not returning here.
[1:37:20] Yes, we You'll be aduring in there,
[1:37:22] but you're still in an active meeting
[1:37:24] going into executive session.
[1:37:25] But you can have a restroom break. Are we
[1:37:28] Off.