[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:17] Okay, good morning. Welcome to the September 3rd meeting of the Board of Raleigh County Commission. [0:23] That stands for the Flight of Allegiance. [0:29] The Flight of Allegiance due to the fire of the United States of America. [0:33] And we need to rebuttal it for which it stands. [0:36] One nation under God, ended it as old with liberty and justice for all. [0:47] Wow. [0:49] Okay, public comment. [0:54] I'll let you know when you got one minute left. [0:58] Thanks. [0:59] Good. [1:05] Good morning commissioners. [1:08] You should know my name is Curials. [1:10] I live at 3308 Frontier Circle or the folks that are watching. [1:15] It's my favorite topic, property taxes. [1:19] So it's just a reminder that I'm sure you'll remind them of also [1:23] So that come the 10th, which is the week from today, you'll have two hearings, revenue [1:29] and neutral hearing and the budget hearing for 2027. [1:34] I just want to make a couple comments, as I've said before, it's a little tongue-in-cheek [1:40] as you know, but I guess there's a truth in everything you say. [1:46] I don't remember where you are on the mill right now. [1:49] It's published, at least on my notice, at 38.012, which is probably close. [1:55] I think that said exactly. [1:57] That's enough of government work, is that the answer? [2:04] So what does that mean for Riley County? [2:08] Well, from a total standpoint, you know, which really isn't relevant here because that's not your scope. [2:16] You're just worried about concerned about Riley County. So I'll just narrow it down to that as I expressed a while back [2:22] The rent is due or will be due soon [2:27] Ironically here we are at the first of the month. So those of us who have rental properties have collected our September rent [2:33] Hopefully, and then if we don't which I've got one that hasn't [2:38] We'll have an opportunity to give them a place an opportunity to live somewhere else and [2:42] And in truth, sadly, that's true of you all, and unfortunately, you've [2:50] have processed that. [2:52] I pay my rent all the time. [2:54] We'll give you an opportunity to live somewhere else. [2:56] We'll just remember if your landlord doesn't. [2:58] Yeah. [2:58] If you're relevant. [2:59] I know. [3:00] I thought about that from time too. [3:03] So I just want to just want to put this in perspective. [3:06] And I've said this before, there's probably everybody in this room doesn't have a [3:09] problem in paying their property taxes or rent. But there's a lot of people in town [3:14] that are in the middle class that are going to struggle once again and try to [3:18] figure it out. I have 89-year-old in-laws that moved up from job in four or [3:24] five years ago and for them their increase, if it's similar to my increase, is going [3:31] to be somewhere in the neighborhood of, I don't know, a hundred bucks. Will that be [3:37] hard on them. I don't know. But what's happening, as you know, is the middle class is getting squeezed [3:43] out of Riley County and more specifically out of Manhattan. There's not a lot of opportunities [3:50] that I know of to move into Riley County unless you've got some deep pockets and can build a very [3:59] very nice home and afford it. So I just encourage you, I know you want to take a look at the 28 [4:04] budget earlier is getting hard for a lot of middle-class people. [4:10] And I know that's hard because when we [4:12] talk about services, which is cutting services, which is what you talk frequently talk about, you're [4:17] talking about cutting personnel costs because those are the people who provide the services. It's not [4:23] the service itself. It's the cost of service. Thank you very much. Thank you. [4:33] Any other public? [4:37] Oh, [4:45] I'm just here for public comment as Elizabeth is out sick today. So she has two items to present. I would ask the commissioners entertain just striking the last item, which was the marketing discussion. I believe. [5:04] So I ask you if you guys have interest to strike that from today's agenda and pick it up [5:11] another or if you guys are interested in still having that conversation, obviously that's [5:16] your call. [5:16] So just bring it on to your attention. [5:19] I think we have, yeah, revisions to give us that kind of thing. [5:23] Yeah. [5:25] I mean, we could just, yes, we thought on a two, but for this way to see it's back either [5:30] way. [5:31] I think it's probably better to wait to have everybody involved in the process, my thought. [5:36] Okay. [5:36] Yeah. [5:37] Kind of like not having the county attorney or having our attorney here, you know, might just [5:41] give us some trouble. [5:42] Yeah. [5:43] Yeah. [5:44] So all right. [5:45] Then I just take a motion and amend and remove that. [5:48] I am. [5:49] Go ahead. [5:58] We're not here on Monday. [6:01] You can be. That's one. I'm not stopping. [6:04] I'll meet you on Monday. [6:07] Until Thursday. [6:09] On that note, just a quick reminder, transportation. [6:11] It's closed on Monday. [6:12] Yeah. [6:13] Thank you. [6:15] I didn't sleep much. [6:16] Yeah, it's awesome. [6:18] Didn't either. [6:20] Crickets. [6:21] Yeah. [6:22] Okay. [6:22] My four. [6:23] It's a deal. [6:24] This one's got to be a big one. [6:26] Okay. [6:27] Let's go to commission comments. [6:29] Yes. [6:31] It's September 3rd already. [6:36] Wish it felt a little bit more like September. [6:38] Yeah. [6:39] When I was redoing my calendar and I actually put December and I'm like, [6:43] boy, if it's 100 degrees in December, I don't want to see next summer. [6:46] Yeah, I think I'm moving Minnesota or someplace up in the [6:51] Monday afternoon, I listened in on National Association of [6:54] Canoe's webinar title. Did you know the nation's [6:57] counties and its emergency response? [7:00] About all things considered here recently, that might be a good [7:02] meeting too. This webinar highlighted the county's employment [7:06] almost 939,000 public servants. [7:09] We're trained and dedicated for emergency response, [7:12] preparedness, task with conducting these duties as they happen, [7:15] whether they're natural or man-made or just requires a first response. [7:21] Also keep in mind September and it's maybe coming up [7:24] or later to September is National Preparedness Month. [7:27] It's a great time to recognize those who serve across the board [7:30] in these capacities including right here in Riley County. [7:33] I know we've got some dedicated officials here as well. [7:35] I just want to give a shout out and say thanks for all you do. [7:38] The work and efforts are always greatly appreciated. [7:41] Usually come at people's worst time of need there. [7:44] So Tuesday Wednesday I spent working my normal schedule at work. It was awfully, awfully hot, but everything's going well. [7:52] Tuesday I came down for the American Red Cross blood drive to donate here in the chambers. [7:56] Once again, it was quick, painless and efficient and they had like six beds. I think set up. [8:03] If they continue to do that, we need to like be some kind of a blood drive party. [8:07] FES there, something to get more for more people and they're pretty empty. [8:12] I almost staff the people in here giving blood, so I don't know if they were planning that. [8:16] I don't know if that's something new. With that said, with the new app setup they have, [8:20] and of course the rapid-pass system, it's really easy to make these donations. [8:24] They're always critical, no matter what time of the year, with that pass-and-app system they have, [8:30] so they don't tell you who, obviously, but they will tell you where your blood donation ended up [8:36] up and what day and time, even what time was logged in. [8:40] I got it down to a tee. [8:42] So, yeah, pretty painless. [8:44] A couple of saves lives all across the country [8:47] doing what people's time it needs. [8:49] Wednesday I listened in on a telephone town hall [8:51] with Congressman Tracy Mamm [8:55] and I followed up with another one [8:56] with Congressman Derek Schmidt. [8:57] We had opportunity while the United States Congress [9:00] is still in session to get caught up [9:02] on important federal legislation that affects Kansas [9:05] and particularly in the areas of agriculture, military, and veterans services and the other areas that affect the citizens as Kansas as a whole keep in mind. [9:16] Congressman Man is on the agricultural committee, but a lot of that conversation focused around the farm bill, some of the key areas agriculture related as well. [9:25] Congress and the Schmidt's on the Armed Services Committee, those [9:28] support to get caught up in real-time and everything [9:30] going on there too. As you may be aware, they did pass a funding [9:34] measure that will fund the government through December 11th or [9:40] 13th. So don't have to deal with the usual August or October [9:43] shutdown. Maybe we're Christmas. Hopefully not. Amazing how they got that [9:49] done during election year. I'm just filling that out there too. [9:54] But anyway, we [9:55] wanted to deal with what we dealt with the last couple of years is trying to [9:58] fund some federally funded programs through the better half of the year. [10:01] Maybe so. Maybe there's a light at the end of that tunnel. [10:05] Later Wednesday evening, I attended the city council meeting over in [10:08] Ogden. I gave a short update on everything we're working on here in the county. [10:11] So, there's some other issues that are kind of facing the city currently. [10:15] having a hell of a time at that stoplight over there at 113 in Skyway. The [10:21] time is off on it. I've sat there for 10 plus minutes. Yeah, off of Skyway [10:28] getting ready to turn. There's some memorandum of understanding between K. [10:33] Dot and City. [10:36] City's done a survey and done their due diligence there and knows [10:40] what parts to order but has to get the okay from K. Dot. So we're trying to [10:44] work up the chain to get that taken care of. So that's working a lot. But because obviously there's [10:49] times of the day where that's really a pain at that location in the morning and evening afternoon. [10:56] That's a secret. I can tell you guys don't go that way anymore, but they're already [11:01] destroying and rebuilding the two branding roundabouts. I've got to put it out there. [11:05] I didn't know if you'd still be out there. They just didn't design them right. [11:11] what for the extra dream big loans that come through it's just the extreme ones and I've been [11:15] right there when they were ones carrying massive things you know it was horrible so that's what they've [11:21] done they say not so much was circled but shortened it up so they can go up on the curb and drive [11:26] up on it and so yeah but both of them are getting reconstructed they went through three different [11:32] engineering prospects for that before they even started I don't understand how they didn't understand [11:39] that to begin with. I mean it's clearly spelled out in the 24 corridor study too that you know [11:45] that's extra wear and tear and need several different areas along the corridor but specifically [11:50] there because you've got you know obviously two major highways and that block and a half [11:57] whatever you want to call it two block radius there. So the technology you'd think they'd be able to [12:01] get that right you know because it is different with each one on how the approach is at the end [12:08] Oh, well, and you know, that's my point. [12:14] I think longer, somewhere, I would notice it's just the extreme ones and they were extreme [12:20] loads. [12:20] Oh, yeah. [12:21] But when it backs traffic up for hours trying to try to make that work, so that's pretty [12:26] critical. [12:27] Those are all things that we'll mention here in this month's MPO meeting, which is on the [12:31] 16th, too. [12:33] And apparently K-DOTS doing something at OK 18 fertilizer or something. [12:37] I won't use descriptive measures that have been asked to me. [12:42] I don't know if something's happening out there. [12:44] I don't know if somebody dumps something. [12:46] It's nothing from the city. [12:48] I think that's all last night that it is with the chicken parts. [12:54] I was going to say Nelson's had three owned a bunch of land out there. [12:58] That's who they had to buy a bunch of that from. [13:00] And sometimes it's what they use to fertilize their fields. [13:03] Oh, and they scrape up from our chicken as well. No, it's supposed to be chicken waste, but sometimes some of them don't make it and fall into that. I would imagine that would actually make sense. [13:15] I was going to check on checking on that this morning to see if they'd done any activity out there. [13:20] I haven't gone out, particularly. I don't care. [13:22] I did, but obviously I went to the meeting last night, but I made sure the windows were up when I kind of turned the filter. [13:28] or they all focus on KC. [13:32] Just off of K18 out there, [13:34] I should come in to Ogden [13:35] and that's right where they own land. [13:37] Yeah, where it is. [13:39] Pause, like that? [13:40] Yes. [13:40] We're gonna have to do something about that [13:42] because it's not the name of the LLC's feather or something. [13:46] I think we'll never move it. [13:47] It's not that good. [13:48] And we've talked a lot of people, [13:49] they should change that LLC to something [13:51] that's less than PG rated at this point. [13:54] I do have no business, I heard his business. [13:56] Yeah, I'm for sure. [13:57] Yeah, I think there's just the better way of working through that particular channel's room. We're waiting till it cools off a little bit [14:04] Myself, I wouldn't want to hang in the hands real fertilizer than the other. Yeah [14:11] No, I certainly come up over the week too. So [14:15] Also listening to some items from pertinent city staff members of the council itself. They do have a new [14:21] city foreman over there [14:23] I guess our equivalent to public works director [14:25] It seems to be doing a really, really good job. [14:27] So if that's good, ball festival over there will be on the 24th, [14:32] they move it to the 24th, it's an old day event. [14:37] As we're wearing October, everybody's doing some type of a fall [14:40] events, they had to rework that. [14:42] And also working on several issues of concern, [14:45] and I've had with several early county citizens over the last week, [14:48] working to do their shambles, and hopefully get the right answers [14:51] from the right people, so it takes a little bit time. [14:54] also working and talking to several groups and people [14:57] and filling some of the open advisory board positions. [15:00] That are currently open and and or will be opened by years end. So, with that, this, they're excited that K state football is back, okay. I'm hopeful on the day. If it's some good luck. And Missouri, and then I think UNLV and somebody tomorrow. Normal slide on Saturday. LSU, Clemson should be a pretty good game. So we're just checking. [15:28] and Colorado should be a pretty good game. [15:32] Another one on the radar, [15:33] I put on the rados, Louisville and Ole Miss. [15:36] Oh yeah, for sure. [15:36] Team or a high-parent office, yeah. [15:39] Well, like I said, that's all I've got. [15:41] Okay, tuition, can I? [15:43] Not really, as you can tell, [15:46] I've been under the weather for the last weeks, [15:48] but I did spend a lot of time [15:50] reading, finding a lot of articles on data centers. [15:56] So if you, a few that were worthwhile, but I forwarded on to Amanda, a lot of them, not, you get them figured out, educate me. [16:05] I don't learn a lot about them. [16:07] There's, there's a lot of noise, but if you dig around, there's some information. [16:12] Yep, that's about it. [16:14] Okay. Well, let's say Monday afternoon after our meeting, I got lunch and I went to do some water aerobics and swimming. [16:20] the friends pool that evening and for the rest of the week you've been taking my dog to [16:25] Keith's park where walks and to follow progress on the lagoon construction. [16:30] Work's been underway with a lower part of the pedestrian trail being rocked or some of the rocks [16:37] they put in there were this big and then I guess it was that we're driving over and cracking them [16:42] out I don't know but anyway they're to accommodate the heavy equipment traffic it's just on the first [16:48] half, it's like they go from the entrance, the south entrance to where the gate [16:55] before we did the groundbreaking. So it's it's quite a distance. Anyway, path [17:03] connects to that passage. Some large dirt berms are developing on either side of [17:09] the area. So I'm not sure if that's when the gun is being digged if they're just [17:14] falling dirty. It's really rich soil, so it must be coming from that area. It's almost as dark [17:21] as your soup code. It's amazing. [17:27] There's, Mark always has something going on and hopefully, [17:30] and a lot of pedestrians, picnics, and other activities all week long so much. [17:38] Tuesday morning. I did a short welcome address to the Kansas Emergency Management [17:43] association meeting. It's being held at the Health and Guardian this week. [17:48] That's huge. I know. It was built as a huge. [17:51] It was a pleasure for me. Yeah. [17:54] Good. They've been doing it here for a while. [17:56] I mean, there were so many people that was amazing. [17:58] They have a full schedule with keynote speakers, breakout sessions, [18:02] and a tour of all our new presenters. [18:08] Wednesday, I attended the military luncheon of a double tree hotel event [18:14] summer. Guest speaker was the Fort Raleigh Garrison Commander Colonel Joseph [18:19] Ford Jr. And then I have a list of upcoming events for anybody like a [18:26] copy of anybody who's interested in that. One of the big things coming up is [18:31] Apple Pie Day is going to be September 26th. They're going to have it out at the fort. [18:38] And they're starting. Apple Pie sales are started on it. Well, they'll start on the 18th of this month. [18:48] Pre-orders from 827 from 915. So pick up. What do you order? I used to be through military [18:55] relationship to go on their to work code which I've got it somewhere good to I've got it somewhere [19:04] really good or called the chamber you can learn is there um let's see I attended the uh normally [19:13] I attended the Western Business Association meeting afterwards but wasn't feeling well so went home [19:19] for several hours before going to Belport, [19:22] small evenings, which we just started in. [19:25] This is at a short time to review today's agenda documents [19:28] as it wasn't available to the evening. [19:31] I want to look for it, at least on my computer. [19:34] So I did a quick review of this. [19:39] The RCPV law enforcement board is going to have a special [19:42] meeting this afternoon from three to five [19:45] here in the commission chambers. [19:47] IT will have it streamed online for the board. [19:54] Anyway, that's all of that. [19:56] Who's the featured speaker yesterday at the West Side business? [20:00] I saw that after. [20:02] I think I want you. [20:04] That's what I thought. [20:05] A lot of them did, evidently. [20:07] What was that? [20:08] Elections. [20:09] That's it. [20:10] What was that? [20:10] Elections. [20:11] Yeah. [20:13] That's what it's about. [20:14] For sure. [20:15] It's just the season now. [20:16] Yeah. [20:17] Okay, Commissioner, actually speaking in elections, let's solve the Secretary of State's office, [20:25] their board of canvassing. [20:27] It seemed like that was a little later on my off on that, they always have it really [20:30] like that. [20:31] Oh, good. [20:32] The rest of them. [20:32] I think it maybe that's yesterday. [20:34] It's September 1st. [20:36] Okay. [20:37] I still think it's still got it done in August, but maybe, and again, maybe the calendar [20:41] being elongated this year and I'll guess may add something to do with that too I guess yeah [20:46] that's always out there. County officials luncheon in topics the board want to have one if so [20:52] what are the topics and meal choice. I can't make it okay. The fact that I was going to tell you [20:58] during Chinatown to Virginia's I'm going to have to be out of here by 1115. I've got to meet and [21:03] an appointment that overlap that time and I didn't I didn't think about I don't have any topics [21:17] I was gonna say if you wanted to do one in September because I know it gets kind of crazy towards the end of the year, we could jump to the next Monday, do it on the 21st. [21:27] If it looks bad, we didn't have one since they had some pressing it and not been had with the next month. [21:32] Well, then if we get into October, we have employee day on Monday and yeah, it's whatever you guys don't wing the next week. [21:39] We want to do one in September. I'm not against it. I just can't do it on the fortune and, um, pretty sure separation at least at the apartment head meeting. [21:46] We'll keep this justice topics is more or less kind of a bring your own topic. [21:52] Okay. Okay. So, but it's, there's, I mean, it's important to get together for those things too, but do we want to do it? [22:00] 21st, yeah, go to next. [22:01] Is that okay? [22:03] Yeah, [22:06] specifically department heads for some specific topics. [22:09] Yeah. [22:10] Yeah, I'm going to spread three years on. [22:12] Two. [22:13] Well, they're checking to see if it might be long. [22:14] It's a lot. [22:15] Yeah. [22:15] Yeah. That's our next week. [22:17] And then the next week after that's Intergovernmental. Yeah, so it's it's October, right? [22:22] Right. I think we run into this every year. I can cancel my meeting on the 14th, [22:31] but I can't cancel the appointment because I already rescheduled it once. So when I'm not [22:36] We're going to check for the regular time, which regular scheduled is what the second Monday. Yeah, [22:45] which is the 12th and we're not here due to fleed ins. It's called a steak. Yeah, some food. Do we [22:52] have to have it on a Monday? We could maybe go to our Tuesday or Thursday. You can go Thursday. Yeah, [22:59] you absolutely good. You absolutely good. You want to do. [23:01] and we'll look at that in October maybe. [23:05] Yeah. [23:06] That would be good. [23:07] Everyone get healed up and everything. [23:10] Okay. [23:10] Most important. [23:11] That's 15. [23:13] Yes. [23:14] Most important thing you guys to do today, [23:16] to motion on payroll and accounts payable. [23:18] So moved. [23:20] A second. [23:21] So moved and seconded to approve the accounts payable and payroll. [23:27] All in favor? [23:29] Aye. [23:29] I'll resign, please. [24:08] Something else I was thinking about this morning, [24:10] I know as we can hear this construction going on upstairs, [24:14] if we have to turn off power, [24:16] something maybe need to make sure you got IT involved [24:18] that we should set down the positive systems. [24:22] Oh, IT is, of course, [24:24] heavily involved in all of that. [24:25] Okay, yeah, he's right on top of that, [24:27] because nothing was working real good this morning. [24:30] That's where he's right on top of that, okay. [24:33] I'm not saying it's just that it's definitely his baby right now, even if it wasn't his department he's been very involved in all of those. [24:44] I know it's a necessary component. [24:50] I'll sooner or the better for us on elections for sure. [24:57] I was striving through here and the sun was just right that you could look through both sides of the windows and the north and side the whole way down the second. [25:06] sick it for like yeah they're tearing some stuff up [25:09] I'm sure that alley I couldn't believe how much of the alley they took out they've got a huge [25:13] section okay no I thought you know it's just gonna be kind of right there it's all the way [25:17] this way well wouldn't it just a year a year and a half ago Kansas gas just did the same thing [25:30] on drywall from the project today yeah that's always fun to work out [25:34] When I came in about sticks trash cans coming the trash control was coming up [25:40] When I came in I think everybody was going upstairs to get said plot or said cheat rock [25:46] Any change of the minutes commissioners [25:49] Comment that employee of the month I watched it. I mean this guy looks markedly like my nephew. Oh, really? [25:57] Yeah, but [26:01] it changes the minutes. [26:03] I would like to make a motion to approve the minutes [26:06] from the August 31st media in the rally commission. [26:09] Second. [26:10] It's a moving seconded to approve the minutes [26:12] of the August 31st, 2026 minutes as presented. [26:16] All in favor? [26:17] All right. [26:18] All right. [26:18] I have a tentative of Jones-look commissioners. [26:21] Any items for next week's press conference? [26:23] Nope, because I won't be here. [26:24] True, none of us will agree. [26:26] Thank you for minding me. [26:26] That might keep producing it. [26:28] 9 o'clock, I assume Jacob's going to do a little bit on human resources. [26:36] That's what I do. I have some questions. I'll have an answer. [26:43] Like, let me get back to you on that. [26:48] That's all of the secrets. [26:54] Notice how we all have it. [26:56] What's that? That's how we treat our guests. [26:58] He's like, you don't know the answer. [26:59] say this. I don't say something that's wrong. For sure. [27:04] Use it for me. It's I can use the confirmed one tonight. [27:08] You'll notice how much more alert Jacob is this morning. [27:11] That is all he's telling the air. [27:13] All right. They're still probably almost an hour and trying to see [27:17] if I could get a whiff, but there's nothing special a little [27:19] apparently. It's already a straight coffee and I guess [27:23] we must need it for some reason. Yeah, I like that one too. That's [27:28] pretty cool one. [27:31] When I asked him where he got it, I don't know, too. [27:36] Thank for mine. I'm looking for it here. Yeah, that was a little too. [27:41] I think I'm going to have a garage sale or yard sale with just tumblers. [27:45] I'm not really as lucky about that. I don't know what to do with it. I don't meet all of it. [27:52] So, careful. I'm like, where? I picked these all up in the last 7 to 10 years. I'm like, [27:59] They're going to need all of them. [28:01] Fasten all their stuff up, and I'm like, what? Why? [28:04] Does it fly? [28:06] Well, you know what that's like, you just want to do that. [28:10] Oh, a bunch of the dumps. [28:13] Well, we run when we were getting ready for pictures. [28:15] We had one of these big dumpsters, and we filled it up. [28:18] And I'm like, how? [28:19] I did not think we were going to fill it up. [28:20] And now I'm like, maybe we need to get another robot. [28:23] Well, you put a station wagon underneath it, didn't shit. [28:26] Let me say it does, we should put DevStormick. [28:29] Oh, there's something maybe that much. [28:30] We got that on it. [28:32] I could have, of course, because we had several, [28:36] I'll do extra outbuildings that I just slide that for back. [28:40] We'll get that some days and a lot. [28:43] Yeah, that's my goal. [28:44] Why it hasn't been thrown out already? [28:47] I'm like, oh yeah, we have a whole attic. [28:49] We have to go through that. [28:50] That's not started yet. [28:52] I'm like, I already looked in my head. [28:55] Well, I would get him because we put some stuff up there to save and I have no idea why, [29:02] but then I don't think I think everything up there got fresh. [29:08] Sure there was anything to do with their saving. [29:11] When we're doing a house addition right now in our house and we're in the pack up everything [29:15] and we got rid of so much stuff and then before it comes in we'll be getting rid of more too. [29:18] You know, amazing that junk you accumulate. [29:32] I'm a loving old and he texted me the other day and he told me to pack the box, add some [29:36] moving on. [29:37] Not yet. [29:38] He's offering to be helpful. [29:40] That's nice. [29:41] Yeah. [29:41] That's really great. [29:42] but he has glass and he's not gonna round it right and it's just nothing [29:49] yes the five-year-olds keep everything he brings on to kindergarten so I'm [29:55] like it's not in the trash no we can't I'm gonna keep it [30:00] I have a whole trunk full stuff like that. One thing it's waiting for one file. They didn't go in our storage. Guess where it went? [30:11] Happy month, one daughter. I just put two boxes in her van. You know where she goes. I'm going to lock my vehicle over there. [30:20] Pretty questions. All right. Good morning, commissioners, Jacob Hansen, Riley County Counselor and also department head over the human resources division here to present. [30:30] their staff report, you know, working with them. I know they're extremely busy every day, [30:37] bounce on the meetings back and forth as far as any of the specifics go. I just have to defer to [30:43] the report here. I'm sure you guys are able to read through it. And if you guys have any specific [30:48] questions or things that you would like to see anything you would like to see specifically. [31:01] Well, [31:01] We're too, so if there's something you would like to see the report on text around some of the numbers, something to get more out of the report, I'm happy to take those and and relay it was a bit of nerdy. [31:15] So happy to answer. [31:18] We're all at least relaying questions that you have. [31:21] Well, if you're relaying questions, there's no sense to ask. [31:24] Well, I could still get him to a little bit. [31:27] Now I can do that. [31:29] Turn over rate is going like that. [31:31] Yeah, it definitely seemed like it. [31:35] I mean, it wasn't bad anyway, but, you know, it was nine, something. [31:40] It's the last year. [31:42] Ah, yes. [31:44] So it's. [31:44] I mean, one of the things that you're seeing here and this is kind of a trend around the [31:52] state is our unemployment rates are really, really low and that means everybody's pretty [31:58] much locked up in the job, maybe not the job they want or maybe not, you know, certain [32:02] segments of it, but they are working so there's just not a lot of movement in the process at [32:07] this point in time. [32:08] Yeah, certainly. [32:09] Now, can it be interesting here this month when the Amazon facility opens up to see what [32:13] What happens there? [32:14] I'm not there, yeah. [32:15] I'm in a position in the month. [32:16] I didn't catch a date, but they sent me a group one. [32:19] I don't know, right around 100. [32:20] Really good. [32:21] Yes. [32:22] So I didn't pay I think is 18. [32:25] Good. [32:26] So, and I think that's going to have a effect on some things here locally too. [32:31] Right. [32:32] Yeah, I know overall big picture, you know, federal reserve has to dance that dual mandate. [32:38] And right now, another, and a bit of a pickle on whether or not they increase interest rates, [32:43] which usually has an effect on employment rate and unemployment rate. So it'll be interesting [32:48] to see how that plays out in the next couple of months. You also see this time of the year, [32:54] obviously, with holidays. I know it doesn't seem like it, but the holidays right around the corner [32:59] and you get that pick up in temporary and longer term retail. All right. So no questions to relay [33:10] at this time? I guess. All right. I'm sure she's still listening. [33:15] Thank you so much for all the interest rate movement and so that's why Trump got rid of [33:20] the last guy and the new guys struggling to do what Trump wants. Yeah, in the face of the [33:25] stacks that he's getting, maybe it is the [33:34] momentum is actually what we expected. I mean, we inserted eight trained dollars in the economy [33:39] over COVID and we weren't expecting it to have a short-term and long-term effect. [33:44] Yeah, the novel's like the less it's sweet. [33:46] No, it's the exact amount of people on the board certainly has a hope. [33:52] I mean, if you look at throughout history, I'm not saying this is right, but more usually [33:58] is the one thing that actually pops the economy. It makes it, you know, [34:03] I can't, can't say disagree with that. [34:07] Or yes, I like this, that we look a little bankrupt. [34:12] Dude. [34:13] There's some that I do. [34:15] All right. [34:16] Hmm. [34:18] I'm not sure. [34:22] Certainly not. [34:23] I don't know if you have the phrase for this country. [34:25] Yeah, probably. [34:30] Not also that we just caught 40 trillion in debt, but our debt service payments, now for the first time over a trillion dollars. [34:40] If you put that in perspective, that is the third largest payment on the ledger, [34:48] even ahead of defense and social entitlement or whatever you wanted to find it. [34:55] What's the final money? [35:02] Somebody asked that, I thought a pretty good question [35:03] on Town Hall call last night of, [35:08] where's that debt interest payment going? [35:13] China. [35:15] That was my thought, but that's not the answer, [35:17] we do a lot. [35:18] The big one. [35:19] That's the big one. [35:20] That's the big one. [35:20] The big one. [35:22] It's a extraordinary large amount of our debt. [35:25] We believe in an up-resil. [35:27] I don't know, I don't know. [35:28] Brazil? Yeah. Huh. I'd say it's interesting. [36:26] Yeah. [37:07] Because this is only half what it goes all the way to sunset. [37:12] But I've heard it because of you in the storm ring. [37:14] What's the stuff in this way? And they start down sunset and come up from the other side. [37:21] That was the shorter stretch. [37:24] Oh man, yeah it's, I'm, I'm scared that it's just in it straight straight, but it's [37:29] empty. [37:30] I said, it's, oh, it's running on the end, oh yeah, that's going to be a never ending [37:36] project. [37:37] They'll finish it and they'll go back to where they started to start over again. [37:39] It would just be a lot better if they would move the unintentional speed bumps that have [37:44] to do this on it. [37:46] They could level those out and it would be a lot easier. [37:49] Although yesterday I tried to go home for lunch and they had, I don't know, a sim line [37:56] that had some sort of large equipment on the back that just, I don't know if it stalled [38:00] out or what, but I sat there for 10-15 minutes before I just decided to turn around and get [38:05] I love to clap one and then head down. [38:09] It was, so that was fun. [38:12] What's it like sitting by the end of the day [38:14] and those lights? [38:15] Has anybody seen my 70s? [38:16] They have been doing construction for three years. [38:18] I mean, the entire time working here. [38:20] They have been in their construction there. [38:22] That's true. [38:23] It's done a one way for three years. [38:26] We're talking about that yesterday for case they football [38:28] and I'm like, it might just be good just to go over to 177 [38:32] And it just come, come up and cross that way. [38:37] I'll get you into town now. [38:38] It'll be a little bit more difficult to get back out. [38:40] A couple of years ago, and it said there was a lot of people [38:44] when I put around, because we had a lot of traffic [38:47] that was crossed Riley on game days. [38:51] Yeah, we did that once my home came up for a game. [38:54] They went that way. [38:55] And then when we last, we said 177, [39:04] Yeah, so you're taking away one instruction section of your trip for another person there so I [39:12] went to get coffee after my meeting at the hospital and there's an excavator part to the young [39:18] like they are and the dog at the yard, mom's like okay the appraisal's being done today that's fun [39:27] Hey everybody listen in. [39:33] I don't think she's going to put the [39:38] appraisal of the escalator on there. [39:42] Besides it's probably [39:43] taxing Simton, you know what he went [39:54] to Memphis. Missed it. [39:56] this thing. No, he lost it. I don't know how the trash game dropped in. [40:04] Yeah, they were there just [40:05] continuous like homes to foul. If you got a thing about it, when you think about the hallway and [40:11] each of the separate, I mean, there's a lot there. There's a lot there to empty that entire space. [40:15] Like I said, I can see right through it this morning driving in. Yeah, that's what I did too. [40:24] I got the word, enough last week to start it, there was still a lot of, it's amazing, [40:32] because that is, yes, the amount of computer cables, I mean, there's a bundle, I can imagine [40:41] like trying to organize all that too, well, we fired a building at the end building, because [40:49] said in the dismantling up here. They had this roll of cables. This is a bunch of cables [40:56] come down into this ring. So somebody's going to figure out how to put all that together. [41:01] Oh right. It was just like that mess in the EM building another alley. Oh yeah. [41:06] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is it. When we looked in there, it's like, yeah, I don't want to put that [41:11] on the other. It's something good wrong with one of the cables. Which one is it? Yeah. [41:14] I was like, oh, we've got come off all those. [41:25] They were back in the dead late in the 90s. [41:27] We're going to say some liable circuits. [41:29] Oh, yeah. [41:30] I mean, to the original, uh, maybe our object cable, basically, I suppose, like this big [41:36] around, there's like 18,000 of those things in there. [41:39] No, y'all. [41:39] This goes to here. [41:40] And this goes to here. [41:41] I'm like, how do you guys know that? [41:43] I'll go. [41:44] And it's still a relatively new technology then. [41:46] I mean, you're still here for me to say that. [41:49] That was nice. [41:51] I don't remember. [41:51] Maybe a little bit. [41:52] I did do our whole based library class [41:55] get our basement. [41:56] You really go, but what do you see? [41:59] Isn't that for you? [41:59] You love it. [42:00] Let's say, get a basement, that was. [42:02] I love WCCD. [42:04] They're awesome. [42:05] Never been a lot of Christian. [42:07] But it's not really hard. [42:09] I'm sure it's hard. [42:09] I know it's just, you know. [42:11] What? [42:12] WTC, I love to sit up. [42:13] I knew once. Yeah, I'm showing you a lot of matters. Well, you know, there's this thing called the internet and on that internet, it takes the service to make that internet work and. [42:29] I'm like surviving at this point. I haven't figured out what internet service they just say that you see it's good. [42:39] it. [42:42] It's the best, I think. Yeah, they said it was cheaper than like coxies. Yeah, so [42:48] well. So we have to be upset our house, and it's fairly cheap, and it runs really [42:55] well, and never goes out. Whereas, like, we ain't buy. Yeah, you can. [43:00] No, no, no, it's about what [43:03] you got. We've got three minutes. Two minutes. Oh, no, you got two. [43:10] I'm here. [43:10] I'm here. [43:11] You know, that's how I brought WTC out of my area. [43:16] I guess that's like 24. [43:19] Now they've combined it with my management company. [43:21] So it's all incorporated in the monthly payment. [43:25] The only option I have is wind valley or my son has that starlight. [43:29] I might have that. [43:31] Starlight. [43:32] My son does as well. [43:33] How much? [43:35] 85 months and it works. [43:39] I don't have knowledge. [43:40] And it tells you what it's going to be. [43:43] I don't want to tell you if it's struggling. [43:46] It tells you to read this. [43:47] Outside. [43:51] But you have to have. [43:54] Outside. [43:55] Look, it tells you to do that during the tornado. [43:57] Yeah. [43:59] Yeah. [44:00] Yeah. [44:01] That's it. [44:02] Yeah. [44:04] Yeah. [44:04] Now he will. [44:07] Yeah. [44:08] Yeah. [44:09] I think you've got a tornado coming. [44:11] I think repositioning your star. [44:13] Think it's probably the least of your concerns. [44:16] Yeah. [44:16] It looks like a good. [44:17] Woo. [44:18] We're on the other way. [44:20] Yeah. [44:21] Yeah. [44:22] Yeah. [44:23] No. [44:25] Both of them. [44:25] 08 and 16. Okay. Okay. We didn't have really hit the tree. Yeah. And we heard the sound of it. So [44:37] that was the same thing here in the same night. Yeah. What happened or what I couldn't believe [44:45] that is how there were big chunks of insulation from Manhattan out in my area. I had a whole front [44:51] That grade of my trailblazer at the day, coated in rough shingles and installation, came [44:58] out for lunch the next day. [45:00] Stain was looking for going, what in the world? It was like this, and it just peeled right off. At the end of the program, I'll be right there. That next field right across that asphalt road, stockpile park road, I'm going to send the courier out there. I think he knows what [45:14] might be with someone's that by least school. And that one came through the hit waters hardware. He had waters hardware. I'm sure. The irony of that storm, the only building that was completely totaled up on campus was the wind and soil erosion department. [45:31] But I don't know if you want to learn anything about us. [45:37] I mean, I was working on the info at the time. [45:39] We got a whole bunch of windows in and inside the window panels, [45:43] they have the low e-coding to get your energy efficient. [45:47] All those windows were in one piece. [45:49] Nothing was broken. [45:50] But all the low e on the inside of the window, James, we're gone. [45:54] Up down. [45:58] Yeah, that's the word thing like one of the pieces. [46:01] I don't know. [46:01] Hey, you should draw a little piece of wood. [46:03] You know, there's some weird things going on. [46:06] Lots of wood and a big one. [46:10] Thank you. [46:14] All right, good morning, commissioners. [46:16] Jacob Hanson, Riley, kind of counselor for an administrative session. [46:20] There is just one topic. [46:21] I should say two topics I want to talk about briefly. [46:23] one is the commissioners received a letter from the Kansas Water Office a [46:30] little while ago and asked me to take a look into it. It was regarding an [46:33] easement that they get and they're required by law and regulation. They're [46:37] the mandatory required to notify the county that's in where the easement that [46:44] they're trying to get is. I've spoken with both our public works in [46:49] planning and development office and neither have any concerns. What kind of [46:52] concerns, would you have essentially anybody who has a riparian interest, which a riparian [46:59] interest means that you're a budding, a navigable, a lot of body water, and you're essentially [47:05] entire to the some level flow that comes off of the stream. That's what a riparian interest [47:11] is. So if that easement were to impact that flow in any way, negatively that you think affects [47:17] that riparian right, then we would be allowed to make a comment or a suggestion to the state [47:24] in order to abate any of those kinds of concerns. [47:27] So in this case, I just wanted to let you guys know that we're not intending to submit [47:32] any sort of comment to the Kansas Water Office after talking with our folks and understanding [47:37] that there's going to be not be any impact on us. [47:40] The easement appears to be for erosion purposes to help guard against erosion of a certain [47:48] landowner out there, at least that's our understanding. [47:52] So I wanted to bring that topic up. [47:54] Did you guys have any questions or concerns thoughts? [47:57] Okay. [47:58] The next thing I wanted to bring to your attention, I'm sure you guys probably have some questions [48:02] on where we are at with the Flynn Hills Event Complex MOA MOU that they provided to us. [48:10] So it was probably about a month ago. I've had some time to review it. I just have a couple [48:16] of questions that are remaining. I'm working with our Public Works Director, John Ellerman, [48:20] just to determine what kind of site preparation they're expecting out of us to assist with. [48:27] And, of course, this MOA, MOU, it's non-binding, right, but I know I still don't want us to put anything in there that would, well, we frankly can't do, right? [48:40] Even if it is non-binding and subject to our approval, which a lot of that language exists within the MOA, MOU, I still don't want us to put anything in there that would be impossible for us to do. [48:50] John did get back to me and said that you know some of these items we would require equipment [48:57] rental in order for us to help on. So I'm just asking him to give me a detailed list [49:02] of like what exactly we can't do and what will require that and maybe we can make that distinction [49:08] and we'll present it to you guys of course once I get that feedback from John. [49:14] Otherwise the content in the MLU is pretty straightforward. The only other real heavy obligation [49:19] that we have within it is obviously the ground lease. [49:23] How long that's going to be and what the terms are going to be. [49:25] Usually ground lease wants a certain amount of time elapses [49:30] or a purpose of the structures that are above it shifts [49:33] then the individuals who own the ground then take possession [49:38] of the structures above. [49:40] It's usually how it works. [49:42] I imagine in this case it wouldn't, it would be the similar. [49:45] But usually they're really long terms as well. [49:47] we're talking 50 years. So we have yet to know that go shade any of that and that's way at a [49:53] time, I should say, but that's just what they're contemplating in the MOA, MOU. My understanding [49:58] is their intent really is just say, hey, county's interested, county's on board we're trying to [50:03] look at and see where it can go. And this helps solidify them to approach other people private [50:08] investors probably, probably to know that we're at least interested in it. So any questions, [50:16] concerns, thoughts you would like me to relay as far as this MOA goes. [50:23] They were having a session with Matt and this morning. [50:28] Oh yeah. That was fun. [50:30] It's agenda. [50:32] I'll have to take a listen. [50:33] I'll have to take the phone to ring. [50:35] Well, at least you guys have an update for me on it. [50:38] So if you guys get any questions, you know where things are right now. [50:41] Okay. [50:42] I expect to have it to you guys relatively soon. [50:45] My reviews pretty much wrapped up. [50:46] I'm just cleaning up a few couple things. [50:50] Yeah, I believe Mr. Lewis told me that they were kind of waiting to start doing any fundraising [50:57] or anything until we got that together. [50:59] Yeah, makes sense. [51:01] It won't work through it. [51:02] So, like I said, I'm hopeful that we can get it within the next week or so if not two weeks. [51:08] Well, next week's a bit of a lot. [51:10] We'll say two or three weeks. [51:12] All right, any other questions, concerns with anything going on in my office that you guys would like to address? [51:22] All right, thank you. [51:23] Mr. Ann. [51:24] Averson at 930. [51:48] Why, I'm here all alone now. [51:52] Yeah, he already pops up this. [51:55] And that [52:23] most carpet at the [52:48] bottom of the house, using it for [52:57] a month or so to be a part of the team. [53:16] But if you want to move it west, you're going to have to go there. [53:48] So, then... [53:49] Well, a lot of people just talked about it. [53:52] on [53:55] the phone. [53:57] Uh, [54:02] not to the show that you have the email for you to help. [54:07] That's make-up. [54:10] So, I'm gonna go over there. [54:14] Can you get some type of therapy? [54:17] Yeah. [54:18] Yeah. [54:21] Yeah. [54:22] Got to do it. [54:25] Not a character. [54:27] You don't have to call me a baby. [54:31] I don't know. Yeah, he was starting a little bit up the summer and he was coming off. [54:36] He stops doing what I was going to do to cover a couple of cookbooks. [54:41] You know what? I was going to do it. Yes, I was. [54:45] That's how I post on really good things with brother and I post on there. [54:49] I said, yeah, I don't know. I said, I want to stay and see. Yeah, I want to make a peek right now. [54:55] But he had been here [54:59] in the team 20 minutes. They don't know. He's probably going to do that. [55:04] How many was that close? [55:49] You had an older day in my house. [55:51] Yeah. [55:52] My new house. [55:54] Did you recover enough to make it in Monday? [55:57] I don't know. [55:59] I was here, and I was bubbly, and I was totally fine. [56:02] Oh, good. [56:03] Yeah. [56:28] Look how. [57:11] Yeah. [57:13] Yeah. [57:14] And he did. [57:15] Good. [59:05] Yeah. [59:15] Set up time. [59:17] The key. [59:18] I'm going to hold you. [59:20] What happens? [59:50] I like the visuals a little more of the change. [59:54] So, well, that is not the button. [59:56] We're going in a good, no. [59:57] I don't know, I don't know. [1:00:00] I wasn't aware of that, but okay, surprise in us, really, the small house in the rocks. It's fine, pretty. This is kind of a little awkward in this location and like, it needs to be. Oh, Michael. Are you [1:00:24] ready for me? Morning commissioners, Annaberson here, the appraisers office with the monthly staff update. [1:00:31] So on the agricultural use side of things, this is a very busy year for us processing those 18 ag land sales. [1:00:39] The reinspections are 95% complete. [1:00:42] We're still working through processing all those ag use changes as it relates to the farm home sites inspections as well as those ag maps that were returned just for reference 3853 ag use maps were mailed out as part of the. [1:00:58] Ag Reinspection Requirement, and approximately 54% of those have actually been returned, [1:01:03] which is a really good return rate. People want to ensure they're keeping their agricultural use. [1:01:09] 72% of those that have been returned have actually been worked. [1:01:12] So we're working through them as quickly as we can getting those masks updated. [1:01:17] As well, we're finalizing all the changes from our updated water report. [1:01:22] As part of the Ag Use Review, that has actually been completed as of yesterday. [1:01:26] I did get that all wrapped up on the appraisal support side of things. [1:01:31] We're conducting, again, quality control of all of those residential inspections, maintaining [1:01:36] those work files, assisting with scanning and processing of those agmasks as they come [1:01:41] back, reviewing application exemptions as they come in to make sure all of the information [1:01:46] that's required with an application is being submitted and accounted for. [1:01:51] They did mail out the income and expense questionnaires for our commercial team, and they are [1:01:55] We're also assisting our commercial team with 10 [1:01:57] of interviews to try to get that wrapped up, [1:02:02] to get that accurate information. [1:02:03] On the residential side, there's approximately 682, [1:02:08] let's go on the right direction here. [1:02:10] 682 residential sales to date for 2026. [1:02:13] That median sale price is now at 285,000, [1:02:16] and the average sale price is 324,165 dollars. [1:02:21] Our median ratio is right at 94.5, [1:02:24] With approximately 320 new permits for 2026, 37 are new dwellings. [1:02:31] Others are re-checks. [1:02:33] Additionally, there's a bunch of re-checks from last year. [1:02:36] Our team is working through those 2026 sales inspections and annual re-inspections for [1:02:41] about 65% complete on the re-inspection phase and roughly 97% complete on farm home sites. [1:02:48] So it's just a couple of lingering farm home sites that are getting wrapped up. [1:02:51] small claims hearings for the residential properties were completed. We were waiting for one decision [1:02:59] from BOTA. We did have one file on. We notified yesterday that once filing onto the full board. So [1:03:05] we'll be preparing for that hearing and analysis. This is the beginning for 2027 cycle on our commercial [1:03:12] team, 27 commercial sales, which does include exempt properties. What's important to know is if an [1:03:18] exempt property sells, the exemption does not carry over to the new owner, and it becomes [1:03:23] taxable effective the date of that transaction. So, you know, when we put a report in that [1:03:29] there are some exempts that have sold, those are automatically will become commercial. [1:03:33] The new owner, if it is being used for an exempt purpose, it has the opportunity at that point [1:03:39] to file for exemption. But just kind of wanted to explain that a little bit. Roughly 11 new commercial [1:03:45] building permits and this, that number does not include all the miscellaneous permits that are also filed for commercial properties and [1:03:53] rejects from 26. The re-inspection of commercial properties is completed. They're working on building permits and [1:03:59] rejects as well as tenant interviews, preparing for their small claims and voter hearings and analysis has begun again for the 2027 [1:04:08] evaluation cycle. So here is the update with the information. The total sales [1:04:14] and this analysis is 582 residential. Yes, 682 sales total. This 582 number [1:04:21] does not include anything that we have had invalidated based on the SVQs [1:04:27] that are submitted or multi-parcel sales. And so that median is right at that [1:04:33] 285,000. You can see the 25% of the sales, the high end of the lowest end is 210,000. So when you're [1:04:43] looking at this, the very bottom end of the sales, $155,000 is the lowest. We have very few sales [1:04:52] that are going to fall under this. So we've broken this out into core tiles. You have your median, [1:04:57] which is the 285. 50% of the sales in Raleigh County go between 220 to 360,000. Well then we further [1:05:06] broken it out. You have your top 25, your middle 50, which is also broken out and then in the bottom. [1:05:13] And so this just really does paint a really big picture of what the sales activity in Raleigh County [1:05:18] looks like. You see there's this is the low end and this is above the high end. So [1:05:27] That's a pretty, uh, [1:05:30] Cancel pretty good picture. So I hope this is helpful where you find something in that hundred and fifty five thousand dollar range [1:05:37] There's very few sets and in a lot of cases [1:05:41] I mean, it's just this type of property condition the property is being sold in [1:05:46] I kind of figured but yes, there's just [1:05:51] not a lot [1:05:52] very limited size [1:05:54] It's gonna be a big piece in this figure [1:05:57] Okay. Okay. I do appreciate that. I like that. Yeah. Once we've gotten this, this is something I'll [1:06:04] just update. I'll put the new data in every month. I do you think it's a very good visual [1:06:09] breaking it out further than just where that media in the setting. So I think it helps our property [1:06:15] and it's just kind of see what that sales activity is like here in Manhattan. Okay. You actually had [1:06:23] 244 sales this year that 230 to 265,000 range. Where type of homes? Location. I mean, where, [1:06:35] yeah, the location, where they're selling here. I mean, it's just the size of the house. I mean, [1:06:40] you've got condos that are going to be part of this. Okay. So the things you need to consider in these [1:06:45] numbers is, it's, you know, some of them are single family, yes. [1:06:50] So you can't buy anything for under $300,000. [1:06:53] Well, that's not, obviously, that's not the case. [1:06:56] This is clearly not the case. [1:06:58] I wasn't trying to set you up to fail there, but I'm just, [1:07:01] Hey, 50% of the sales are below $300,000. [1:07:05] I mean, that's just telling you right there. [1:07:07] That's why I like this because people say, [1:07:10] Oh, we can't buy well. [1:07:12] It's showing it's being done. [1:07:13] So now new construction, unless it's a condo, I mean, then there might be some of those, but they're still up there in those numbers. [1:07:27] All right. [1:07:28] The vote aside of things. [1:07:30] So I mentioned Manapar is done. [1:07:34] So you guys already signed for those changes that that's that is now off this list. [1:07:39] But I do put it in green so you guys know something's changed whether I'm adding something on here or taking something off [1:07:46] All of these have been closed. So happy to see that shrink a little bit more [1:07:52] On the exemption side these are additions. So new applications for exemption that have come in [1:08:00] Just to be aware of and to know [1:08:05] these will likely be granted. We did have the hearing on the City of Manhattan parking garage last week, so I anticipate it's going to be beyond a 30-day wait for those results. [1:08:19] The board had asked for some additional information from the city, so we'll see. [1:08:24] First one is that one CW it was the one that's attached to 18W over here on the [1:08:29] convention center so I'd be happy to discuss that if you have questions further as [1:08:35] it pertains to that. Yeah speaking of museums I think we all saw the incident [1:08:41] that happened over at the car museum. Yeah yeah yeah video that's a car. I saw that [1:08:49] this morning and it'd be a health issue. It was noted. It was a medical. Yeah it was medical [1:08:55] kind of yeah on the north side there kind of on the northwest side and it kind of [1:09:00] had gone on April 560 they said yeah it went completely in my solid pick it went halfway [1:09:06] into the building I mean I should halfway through the base and they were showing the [1:09:10] video no good it's going if 560 it's good that's weird why I had to show it the outside [1:09:18] it shows the videos and it's approaching it had to be under goes inside and those [1:09:21] cameras. Oh I guess as they try to clean and figure out what they're doing I mean obviously the [1:09:27] cars and other equipment and stuff is separate but what did that do to the building in that case? [1:09:31] So so what will happen on that property is we'll open what we consider an in-house permit just to [1:09:37] follow up and see if those repairs are done before the end of the year it obviously won't impact [1:09:41] the value. If they're not then they're there would potentially need to be an adjustment likely [1:09:46] and adjustments to the condition of that building. But just so you know, it's an exact property. [1:09:52] So it's not going that way. That was kind of serious on that because we would. [1:09:56] And this is the example I'm not trying to pick on them, but it just happened so it was a good question. [1:10:01] With the valuation date of January 1 of 2026, that is based off of everything that happened in the prior [1:10:07] year. So if we have an incident that happens after January 1, a fire, anything like that, [1:10:13] that we will follow up throughout the year before the end of the year to see, okay, is [1:10:18] the work done? [1:10:19] Or did we need to make an adjustment because its condition is not where it was? [1:10:25] And at that point, then, you know, before January 1, 20, 27, we want to recognize, okay, [1:10:31] what's the condition of it from this year? [1:10:34] So things like that, when there's a fire or damage like that, we'll follow up on. [1:10:39] If there's not a city permit pulled through the city, [1:10:43] we put our own in-house to follow up to see what's been done. [1:10:47] Because we recognize that obviously a car in your building, [1:10:50] or through a house, is going to affect the value. [1:10:52] It's not fixed by the end of the year. [1:10:55] Well, they do have a lot of cars in the building. [1:10:58] It's just the ones that go through the building. [1:11:00] There's not one more thing. [1:11:01] There's some in the corridor. [1:11:04] There's a little plenty there. [1:11:05] Sorry. [1:11:05] I'm sorry. [1:11:06] Others, that's tax exempt too. [1:11:08] Yeah, but my presentation yesterday, [1:11:09] the manager let's see, was there at Westside [1:11:13] and she said, there's dust everywhere. [1:11:14] Oh, I bet. [1:11:15] There's dust everywhere. [1:11:17] I got to feel that they have full damage [1:11:19] to 3V of the minimal damage. [1:11:21] Yeah, that's fortunate it wasn't worse. [1:11:24] Most definitely, because I thought there was no one [1:11:26] in the parking lot that I've ran over. [1:11:28] Where, where, where? [1:11:29] Where did he come from? [1:11:31] Hey, Muff Anderson. [1:11:32] Yeah, Muff Anderson. [1:11:34] Yeah, it's pretty late. [1:11:34] Thank you. Yeah, I was really, was there a whole list of some medical things? Medical [1:11:40] thing I was wondering. So just on some other projects, I hate to, hate to defer the conversation. [1:11:49] There's just a lot of training going on, staff are out doing those inspections, [1:11:54] exemptions and applications and analysis, really just trying to get more information as I'm preparing [1:11:59] to put some tools together for the public to be educated on, you know, wire taxes are so [1:12:06] high here in Riley County, what are some things that are packing that. And so that's all part of [1:12:12] that exemption hearing, preparing for that and making sure I was ready to explain to the board [1:12:18] why I did not believe it does or doesn't qualify for exemption. The CPM conference is next week and [1:12:25] Lawrence. So next week, just so you know, myself as well as several other department heads [1:12:30] will be out of the office attending that conference in Lawrence. And then the last thing [1:12:35] just to add is I'm sure you guys got the letter from the property valuation division showing [1:12:41] that we met our compliance for 2026. It's kind of confusing sometimes when you look at it [1:12:47] because we're in 2026. But we set those values January 1. We certify by June 1st, everything [1:12:54] So basically everything we do starts over in June, you know, so [1:12:59] Those those letters were sent from property valuation division to showing that we met all of our [1:13:04] Stash toward compliance [1:13:06] When did David retire? Oh gosh, it's been over a year. I had no idea. Yeah, a new name on there. I don't recognize that. No, I know [1:13:17] Yeah, it's it's [1:13:20] That's okay. You don't explain. I just [1:13:23] Hey, he earned his retirement. I mean, David was great. He's definitely, he's enjoying. I keep in touch with David and he's, he's definitely enjoying. [1:13:34] Oh, I bet. [1:13:35] Not that. [1:13:38] And anyway, do you have any more questions for me? [1:13:42] No. [1:13:43] Thank you. [1:13:44] Thanks. [1:13:44] Thanks, Anna. Next Commissioner, you have Amanda Webb. [1:15:06] All right, good morning commissioners, Amanda Webplan and director. A couple things before you folks today. I'm starting with planning and development speed schedule. I'm just a few things for us to talk about. If you. Be is that we are proposing to add and then a couple of things they and for us to talk about get your input on. So this table I have here, of course, it's obviously not our official resolution, but anything that's not highlighted is what's. [1:15:35] our current fees, current approved fees that we're not changing are not proposing to change [1:15:41] at this point. The highlights are the ones we're going with. So I will start with short-term [1:15:48] rentals. Everybody's one of everybody's favorite topics. There's so many these days. [1:15:54] We do have a lot that, no I don't know that I want to use the word a lot. We have a handful, [1:16:00] I guess I'll use that word, that operate without licensing, but that we find, you know, that we discover that maybe never had a license, and of course, [1:16:11] they're in works for them to get license, or there are other times when they will let their license lapse, yet they continue to, [1:16:18] If they continue to, sorry, I know I'm distracted, [1:16:24] if they continue to operate even, you know, in that labs [1:16:28] of not having a permit, we send reminders [1:16:33] to folks 30 and 60 days prior to their license expiring. [1:16:38] So folks are aware, and then they have that time to work [1:16:40] with there and to have their inspection done, have their people [1:16:44] have done, it's a pretty quick turnaround. [1:16:45] So, you know, people, people should be able to maintain their license. So something there and a night we're talking about is having basically a penalty fee for that. [1:16:58] We have penalty fees currently, we call them after the fact fees for our building permits that are if you start building without benefit of permit, you will be charged double your base rate essentially. [1:17:12] So, for example, to build a home, the permit fee is $150. [1:17:17] If you start without permit, your permit fee is now $300. [1:17:21] And then the rest of the process is the same, but that's just the penalty, [1:17:24] if you will, that we, that we accept. [1:17:27] Can you make them pay it? [1:17:29] Can we make them pay it? [1:17:31] Yeah. [1:17:32] We absolutely can. [1:17:34] It will depend on also on how much the court wants to enforce it once it gets that far. [1:17:39] this doesn't go on to the property debt school now that's not how it's [1:17:44] it's watered right now that would be I just go back to the enforcement issue on [1:17:50] short-term rentals and do we have teeth and I mean or not I mean I would [1:17:57] argue that I think we do we just need to convince court to allow us to do it [1:18:02] each and every time yeah each and every time but you know if we can ask for fees [1:18:07] or anything associated with that? [1:18:10] Well, then here it becomes my thing with that. [1:18:12] Then we're taking a far time in our resources [1:18:14] to try to get to the $400, is then it worth it? [1:18:18] I mean, yeah, that's, I mean, obviously, [1:18:21] until we can actually know that we can [1:18:22] enforce it without those mechanisms. [1:18:23] And it's, you know, I understand that, [1:18:26] but I struggled with that, I'm sorry. [1:18:30] Right now, our initial fee is 200. [1:18:33] it. So if we're not charging a penalty V if you will, then we're still taking our time [1:18:39] trying to chase it down for only the regular permit V. It's just the hope that maybe it's [1:18:45] not going to be everybody's never going to be a hundred percent, you know, that people [1:18:48] are aware. It's been five years, we've had short-term rental regulations for five years. [1:18:52] People are aware, you know, it's just the hope to pay. You need to get this, you need to [1:18:59] get a license for you or you need to maintain a license for your SDR or else we are going to yeah we're [1:19:06] going to penalize you and ease or just one of the ways maybe do that. Not a good the fee itself I'm [1:19:13] just somebody says no I'm not paying it. Yeah then it would just be violation. Yeah. Yeah. [1:19:27] No, I'm thinking we shouldn't do that just for that reason. The resources are going [1:19:31] to overweight the fee being charged in most cases, and then if we actually lose them, [1:19:37] then what? [1:19:37] I mean, but they already do. [1:19:38] The court doesn't side with us then what? [1:19:41] Well, I mean, if we lose them, then we'll wait down. But do we have to pay anything in the [1:19:46] process? [1:19:48] So, I mean, we already do. I mean, again, right now we of course have initial license fees [1:19:52] 200 renewals, 100. So we're already losing money if you will having to chase down people and [1:20:00] go through the evaluation process as it is, so. But, but same doping, you don't have, [1:20:05] could you accumulate, I mean, except sure, same people, it's kind of keeping going, [1:20:10] it's going to keep most people and incentives for the device. The ones that aren't going to, [1:20:15] we're probably going to stack them up, stack them up for a couple of years, and then it's going to [1:20:18] it will not. I might be sure, I might be. [1:20:21] I might be in a stash story interested. [1:20:23] So you see that point in to Jake was Washington. [1:20:27] We did it with our own parking lot out front. [1:20:30] If you make that penalty, [1:20:32] enough hot, much higher than the licensing, [1:20:36] like, make that one of the $1 thousand. [1:20:38] They're more after that. [1:20:39] You're going to take it seriously. [1:20:40] And then maybe you are recouping your staff costs. [1:20:43] If it goes that far, [1:20:44] the people generally don't like $1,000 bills stacking out. [1:20:48] If you can, so if you have the penalty enough hires and you get there to be you get there to I mean it worked for our front parking lot [1:20:56] We bumped it up to 50 and guess what people quit violating those 50 pounds to the post the band thousand [1:21:01] It is then but really and that helps recoup your staff time. Yeah, and that's that's kind of my concern with this is where [1:21:09] So a reasonable a poll kind of reasonable if you play right, but if you don't play right we're not so reasonable [1:21:14] walk right. I like that thought. Yeah so I mean we can make it higher. And really what the situation is [1:21:23] going to be if somebody submits to us their application but they don't pay the fee, it's not a [1:21:28] complete application. So I consider that we don't have an application and if you're not going to give [1:21:33] me everything or daring or whoever in any of our application processes the complete thing for us to go [1:21:39] down or is there inviolation for example it's been a little while now but we've [1:21:46] had to get down that route but there was an individual where I sent a letter I [1:21:51] said here's the petition I'm about to file pay the fee or we'll find it and they [1:21:56] make the fee so we can't be coerced to see whether or [1:22:04] Sometimes. Sometimes. Like I know there's some method that [1:22:09] probably should be there. Right. Yeah. [1:22:15] Let's say you just have to be some of that [1:22:17] theater attention. So do you want it hired? Do you want to go with the 400 where [1:22:22] your thoughts on do you even want to do it at all? Add the additional pet? Oh I think [1:22:28] Maybe things just keeps the artist's people on straight hands. [1:22:34] It's really awesome. [1:22:38] And these are what people have just started. [1:22:42] You know, short-term. [1:22:43] So this is for anybody who's operating a short-term rental without a license. [1:22:47] Now that can be somebody who's never had a license through us. [1:22:50] Maybe they are brand new. [1:22:51] Maybe we just discovered them. [1:22:53] Darren has his ways of finding. [1:22:55] So there are ones that maybe have been operating for quite a while that he finds and then proceeds with, but then we also have ones that they've let their license lasts. [1:23:05] It's just an annual license, you have to renew it every year and again, we give reminders, we give, you know, hey, and sometimes people, you know, sometimes it just takes a little bit of time and he's working with them. [1:23:16] Okay, you know, a few weeks here and there isn't a huge monga steel, but we do have some that continue to operate without renewing their license for a span of time. [1:23:26] So it can, it really can be anybody who's operating us to our license. [1:23:30] And if you find, if he finds one that has been operating that license, we need to find him or you say, you know, they can say they didn't know about him. [1:23:41] Well, I mean, we would do it the same, how I envision is we would do it the same as we do for a building permit. If he goes out and he finds somebody doing actual construction, not, you know, clearing dirt because that doesn't count, but I mean he's actually seeing structure being built. [1:23:58] it. It's right away. You need to get a permit and it's now this fee. So that is how I would [1:24:05] envision doing it this way. Consistent with that. [1:24:15] So that's on the mount. [1:24:20] The mounts should [1:24:20] be able to cover everything that we're putting into it. So we're not losing. Yeah 400 covers everything. [1:24:31] And they need to look for that purpose. [1:24:35] We're not going to do anything wrong here. [1:24:37] I mean, establish what those things are. [1:24:39] They're in black and white. [1:24:41] People. [1:24:42] They say they've made seasonal. [1:24:46] So we want to change the laws. [1:24:50] Yeah. [1:24:51] So do you want to go with a thousand? [1:24:53] Do you want me what what number would you like to? [1:24:55] do you like to do? [1:25:00] I'm okay with that. [1:25:04] Oh hi. Did you think, Frank? No, we could get at least [1:25:10] to 500 feet. I'm going to get their attention. Yes. I was single five. That's fine. 750. [1:25:20] Do I hear eight? Five. That's awesome. Five, seven, we've all won. I'm not trying to profit [1:25:28] out for this or if that we need to problem but we need to be able to cover our costs to do this [1:25:33] since yeah I still fight the enforcement issue on this and so if you're taking it to court [1:25:38] there's time there's your time there's your time there's staff time putting everything together [1:25:43] there's a hard cost to that yeah we didn't do anything wrong it wasn't our fault and these have [1:25:50] been printed for five six years now so I firmly believe it's not oh I didn't know it's I don't want to [1:25:56] again. [1:25:58] If you've got 98% of the top short-term rental population doing the right thing at 2% or [1:26:04] it's not fair to the other 98%. The goal is not to collect the 1000, but the 1000 to be a [1:26:11] big enough incentive to buy the regular rulers. None of us want to collect the 1000, but it's incentive [1:26:17] to follow along with the rules, because follow along with the rules is so much cheaper. [1:26:21] Yeah. Exactly. Well, could we give them a, you know, after we give them a notice for, say, [1:26:31] five, five, five, five to six hundred dollars, that even a thousand, can we give them like a, [1:26:35] yeah, thirty days to pay this or it's going to go up. We can do that. Yeah. I'm going to look at [1:26:41] it. I would do that. Yeah. Progressive. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Well, it could be done. [1:26:51] So I want to make sure I'm hearing correctly. So if we, the stair discoverers one operating without license, you want an immediate $500 assessment if they don't pay that within 30 days and obviously we send letters and if they don't contact us or pay that within 30 days, you want it raised to 1000. [1:27:08] and you know, so like that, and yeah, okay, no, look at it, Janet, make sure you're okay. [1:27:15] It should be, it will be done. Okay. You've loaded a fast one by. Okay. Oh, and to clarify [1:27:21] too, do you want that for anybody operating an SCR without a license, like those who have [1:27:26] let their license lapse and they just haven't gotten it within a few weeks or? Well, they're [1:27:32] going to get the 500 instead of the thousand on the rest, they wait that 31 day and then that. [1:27:36] So, do you want it across the board, even if you want to just let their license be? [1:27:40] You've sent out notices that they're coming to you, just add that to the notice. [1:27:45] Yeah, we can do that. [1:27:46] I can go. [1:27:47] Yeah, we'll send reminder emails 30 to 60 days in advance, hey, your license is expiring. [1:27:52] Here's how you can renew and what you need to do. [1:27:54] And if it isn't done, here's the bottom. [1:27:56] Yeah, we can do that. [1:27:58] Yeah, so you [1:28:08] can do the same with the world. [1:28:09] Water passed, too, but that's really, so that's completely different. [1:28:12] If we're feeling okay about the STR, that's what we'll write in again. [1:28:19] This is just a work session. You folks are approving anything right this moment. [1:28:22] I'll bring the resolution back at a future meeting. [1:28:25] But if we're okay with STRs, we'll move on to the water well. [1:28:29] The testing part of it's pretty simple. [1:28:31] You know, one person you got to you just going out there and doing it. [1:28:34] Just trying to recover your costs for service. [1:28:38] And I'm okay with that. [1:28:39] Yeah, so essentially what was happening, there's kind of a couple of parts to it, [1:28:45] some not necessarily pertinent, but I'll share it anyway just to give you the full picture. [1:28:50] So right now we require a short term rentals that are on private wells. I want to be very, [1:28:55] very clear, it's only when you're on a private well. You have to have bacteria and nitrate testing. [1:29:01] And the requirement is, and this has been in place for a while, it's just an internal policy [1:29:05] that you have to have it done by a state certified lab. Now a state certified lab, obviously [1:29:10] at age she has certain things that they have to meet, you know equipment and the staff and the [1:29:16] personnel just have to have that certification, but it doesn't mean that you're going to get [1:29:20] a different result at a state certified lab that you would get at a non-state certified lab. [1:29:25] So it really has nothing to do with the validity of the results. So [1:29:30] So any time you have a water test whether it's state certified or not, you have to get [1:29:37] the sample test within 24 hours of collection. [1:29:41] Now we've never been a state certified lab. [1:29:43] We are in Bradley County Low Lab. [1:29:45] We have in my department. [1:29:46] We've never been state certified. [1:29:48] So when folks need state certified results, the closest they can go is SDK labs and Hutchinson. [1:29:54] Again, people need to take their sample and get it there within 24 hours so it can [1:30:00] be tested, again, within 24 hours. As you can imagine, that can be a little challenging for folks. And [1:30:07] that's what we were hearing folks were not able to get their sample in time. I think we had one [1:30:11] gentleman who tried twice and he just was not able to get his sample in. So that's just wasting his time [1:30:17] and, you know, all of this. So staff, you know, we came together and we discussed it. So we believe having [1:30:25] the results, having the test done are more important than it be a state certified lab. Because [1:30:30] again, there's really no difference in the lab, the results I get from lab A or lab B, it's still [1:30:36] going to be the same test. So we removed that requirement again, and you still get the information [1:30:40] that we need in terms of an acceptable water test, but still make it a little bit easier for folks. [1:30:50] During all of this, K-State has now opened their own lab. [1:30:55] Yes, they're not state certified yet. [1:30:57] I'm not sure if at some point they'll get there, [1:30:59] but they're right here in town obviously. [1:31:01] So we're no longer having to send people too far away. [1:31:06] So Darren and Ben have already talked to the folks and visited their lab over at K-State again. [1:31:11] They're just getting it set up. [1:31:13] So what we're going to do basically is, [1:31:15] Darren and Ben will take the sample using bottles that the K-State Lab provides while they're [1:31:23] already there for their inspection for the short-term rental or for an environment systems [1:31:28] evaluation. [1:31:29] But the ESC is, that's the sale when somebody sells a house, the buyer can have an evaluation [1:31:35] done on the system. [1:31:37] So they'll take the sample and then as they're coming back in the town, they will take [1:31:41] it right to the lab. [1:31:42] So it's no longer have a concern about the 24 hours because they'll get it right to them and then he state can perform that service for us. [1:31:51] So I know that's a lot of information to talk about the fee, but I just wanted to make sure you folks have the background of what we were what we were thinking about. [1:31:58] So we are adding that's case states cost we are not adding anything to it because we're going to be there anyway. It's not extra staff time to even go out and take the sample. [1:32:08] We are going to be out there any doing our own, our own inspection just take a sample while [1:32:15] we're out there at the kitchen sink and then bring it bring it to case date on our way back. [1:32:20] So it's $62 for case state to do a bacteria and nitrate test, which is what's required, so we will [1:32:27] add that fee anytime somebody comes in and gets an SDR license that they're on a private well, [1:32:32] we'll add the $62 to it, if you're not on a private well you do not have to pay that, [1:32:36] and then K-State will invoice us that will then pay then directly and we've [1:32:43] already arranged all that with the clerk's office. So that's what that is. And it's [1:32:48] added for both again SDRs and ESCs. So any questions for concerns or thoughts? [1:32:56] Basically it's a password cost. Yeah, so this is a lot easier if you get to have [1:33:00] or something. I mean, it's not locally available. It's a lot easier for everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you think the state, state proof that, you know, yeah, yeah, I don't know what that process is. [1:33:17] So again, any questions or comments on that? [1:33:20] Okay. All right, last one for the fee schedule. [1:33:27] This is something we talked a little bit about for a while. [1:33:30] The potential of finding a contractor for starting a perm starting construction about a permit. [1:33:37] Now we talked a minute ago that we already have an app to the fact building permit fee for anybody starting construction without benefit of permit. [1:33:47] And of course, Riley County doesn't have building codes, so we don't require a contractor, you know, to do the work. [1:33:56] You can do it, do it yourself. Some people do use contractors. Some people just do their own things. Some people still submit their own building, building permit application, even if they have a contractor, it's a little bit all, you know, all over the place where we do. [1:34:10] So, again, this has just been something that's been on our radar for a little bit, so I wanted to have this discussion with you folks and see if that's something you want to explore. [1:34:21] And you can come back later with maybe a little more more in-depth information. I hope that's going to be. [1:34:27] What kind of information would you want? [1:34:31] Well, I'm just, it just seems kind of vague to me. I don't know. [1:34:35] It was something that was brought up, I believe, by one of our former planning board members, because we do have a handful of folks. [1:34:45] Contractors are not, we don't know if it's an actual contractor or not, but property owner who they do start construction without permit. [1:34:51] So it was just the question of is that something we can look at because contractors and maybe you want to fill in a little bit great. [1:35:02] Right now some even if the contractor starts working on a house that they didn't need to permit the homeowners fine, but the contractor. [1:35:10] Right. Oh, okay. And that's our needs to be behind because they're they should know I won't or should know, but don't actually don't, but [1:35:18] Well, some more if you're tired, when you hire a contractor, you think they're doing it. The contractors on the homeowner's one should pay a fine. If it's a [1:35:27] Contra, if they're doing it themselves, I understand it's their problem. But if they had a contractor, do you want to and they're ignoring, you know, good to come. Yeah. [1:35:38] Contractors, if they don't know, they should. [1:35:39] Oh, I mean, and most of them do know that just, [1:35:42] I mean, I know a couple of them sort of said that, [1:35:45] well, and let them go. [1:35:47] If we get them then quick, nobody's going to find them. [1:35:49] I mean, I, you know, [1:35:52] I love it here. [1:35:54] So they know what it is. [1:35:55] And it's not that permitted. [1:35:58] Self isn't that big of a cost. [1:35:59] And like, say we're not inspecting it, [1:36:01] it's just making sure it's done. [1:36:03] Yeah. [1:36:03] But I think if you need the contractors need to be fine. [1:36:10] Yeah, I'm going to thank you for that. [1:36:12] Because I know, like I brought up to your house. [1:36:14] Well, the couple of residents come to me about it. [1:36:20] I suppose what they're looking for is that, you know, [1:36:24] somebody starts up and then it sits there and then it's never finished or, you know, [1:36:29] done incorrectly or whatever. [1:36:40] I mean, yeah, even though we don't have building codes, yes, we do require building permits. We want to make sure the proposed use is consistent with zoning. We want to make sure you're set back so that we want to make sure that if you're proposing a four bedroom home, you have four bedroom wastewater system. [1:36:58] So, yeah, we don't go in and do every single, you know, inspection, make sure you're plumbing is where it needs to be and all of that. We don't do that, but there are, yeah, there are reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:37:19] And so maybe I can, as John said, maybe I can bring some more information back because sometimes it might be a little bit challenging to know when a contractor is involved or not because there can be a situation where maybe a contractor starts the homeowners. [1:37:34] I don't want to work with you, so then the homeowner applies or sometimes a contractor [1:37:40] might apply for the permit, but maybe it's a different, you know what I'm saying? [1:37:43] So we'll just have to kind of think about, if that's something we want to do, we just have [1:37:47] to kind of think about how we can do it to properly assess the right person, essentially. [1:37:55] So if that makes sense. [1:37:56] I see details not exactly how that I think in general needs to be the contractor should know. [1:38:05] Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. [1:38:10] Okay, so in the interest of time, I'll bring that discussion back for the future, [1:38:17] but at least I will update our actual fee schedule resolution to get the three fees that we just, [1:38:23] that we did talk about that you folks are comfortable with I'll get that [1:38:26] update and bring that separately for your approval at a future meeting and [1:38:30] then we can talk more about the contractor finding. Okay. Okay. Okay, that took [1:38:39] most of my time. Let's see. So let me just do a few updates for planning and [1:38:46] development. We did our groundbreaking as you all are aware of that went really [1:38:51] well nobody especially myself passed out in the heat so yeah so that went well and again we [1:39:01] we appreciate everybody who was there who was able to come out for that I visited I went by [1:39:07] briefly on my way from somewhere last week and they're moving to her out there they've got some [1:39:12] equipment out there and doing some different things so yeah I'll be taking another visit [1:39:18] that you're soon just to see to check in. [1:39:21] The things are happening. [1:39:22] So we are very excited about that. [1:39:25] The other thing that happened is I had my project officer call [1:39:29] or I had my kickoff call with my project officer at the EPA. [1:39:32] Great funding. [1:39:33] I had that on Monday. [1:39:36] So took a little bit to get scheduled, but that's okay. [1:39:39] So it gave me lots of information. [1:39:42] There's a lot to do. [1:39:43] But the good thing is with the USDA funding, that's federal funding so hopefully a lot of what we did for that can go towards the information they need for the EPA grant. [1:39:57] Waiting for them to send me a follow-up portal that I can upload our documentation into because they need all kinds of stuff which is completely fine and understandable. [1:40:07] So that process has started, I have all this stuff to do before we can apply. [1:40:16] So it's like a pre-application phase. [1:40:18] They have, you know, when they do a lot of stuff on their side, I'm doing stuff on our side. [1:40:23] So I just wanted you folks to know that we have made that connection. [1:40:26] I have that required call and we'll start working on all of that information. [1:40:32] Again, most everything we should have because we've been doing this a while, this is not a brand new project. So even though it's a little bit late in the game, you know, with terms of this funding, it's actually okay because so much has already set up. [1:40:46] So I'll keep you posted on that, but just wanted you to know that that we're making accomplish with that connection. [1:40:54] So any questions on Keats or any of that? [1:40:58] I mentioned how that came about Jake from Rand's office called said why didn't we get [1:41:04] invitations to that yeah yeah I got that call to I said I don't know I always said [1:41:10] because we gave him money I said no he didn't think he goes what and then in a week she [1:41:16] got a phone call yeah that was it same I got the same call and I said well we haven't [1:41:20] heard who you need well they were talking about the original two million dollars funding [1:41:31] And I said, yeah, you could have, because I know he was involved all the way through. [1:41:35] I said, well, for one thing, got the text one. [1:41:37] I said, no, you didn't. [1:41:38] No, he told me that too, but I actually talked to Senator Moran personally. [1:41:43] I don't know that you could go any higher on that one at this point in time. [1:41:49] He was just curious how the project would go on. [1:41:51] nobody had reached down on it and I tell them, well, there'll be some other opportunities and maybe [1:41:56] we'll just insert something in on that. Yeah, absolutely. [1:42:02] Well, I told the guy, I said it was all [1:42:04] over social media and on the web page, we sent out all sorts of, you know, they just missed it, [1:42:10] I guess. I didn't take the bodies. But yeah, we'll get them looped in and you know, make sure that [1:42:14] they're well made aware of what's happening. Yeah, we also got to remember state [1:42:19] officials are working with federal staff up there to try to make those things [1:42:24] happen and federal people that don't know what's happening here. [1:42:31] Okay, let's see [1:42:33] data center stuff. Evergie is going to come talk to you folks on October 29th. I was [1:42:39] able to connect with somebody from there, he's going to already be in town on the 28th [1:42:45] doing a data center talks off the find out where that's happening and see what I can do. [1:42:50] But they'll be here on the 29th at your meeting, your regular meeting to give a presentation. [1:42:56] If you folks want to think about what information you want, I talked to him about he'll do a presentation [1:43:02] in time for Q&A, but if there's specific information or wanting, let me know and I can [1:43:08] let him know. You don't have to decide right now. I don't, I don't even know where to start. Yeah. [1:43:13] That's why you need that presentation to begin with. Yeah. I mean, I can, if you can't think of [1:43:18] anything specific, perfectly fine. I can ask him to do like a 101 sort of thing, you know, just kind [1:43:23] of a general starter presentation, if you will. And then we can Q and A from there, or, you know, [1:43:29] have them revisit us or whatnot. So I think the things that keep coming up is, you know, water usage, [1:43:37] Electricity, what that's going to do to our rates, that kind of thing, transmission lines. [1:43:43] I mean, those are things that you know. [1:43:46] Yeah, absolutely. [1:43:48] And I'm working on somebody from Division of Water Resources to come talk with you, [1:43:54] and then a few other folks as well. [1:43:57] So, at least getting some info in the meantime. [1:44:00] Again, I can ask them to just do kind of a general update, [1:44:03] and Q&A from there. If you think of anything in the meantime, again, if he's not coming to [1:44:08] end of October, just let me know, and I can ask him to make sure to. [1:44:14] I think the power is the big power. Yeah, yeah. They're going to work around that the next couple [1:44:20] years. In the water, they talk about that the new ones are all closed, looped anyway, and I said [1:44:26] and I've had to fold up a center in Oracle, [1:44:28] I counted the contract. [1:44:30] Oh, they said, oh, data centers use 17 billion gallons [1:44:34] of water a year. [1:44:36] Of course, it's used 200. [1:44:37] Yeah, I think I can't get up. [1:44:41] Yeah, but where does it go? [1:44:43] Doesn't it eventually, if we do it every year, [1:44:45] does that water, where does that water go? [1:44:48] If we have to change it out, isn't that? [1:44:50] Yeah, so if they use closed loop cooling, which [1:44:55] is probably what we're going to want to require than it's less water usage. [1:45:00] But there will be, at some point, they're going to have to refresh the system. And that means, yes, releasing the water that's in there with the chemicals and everything that's in there. So we're going to have to think about, yeah, and then the water that fell then need to put back in it. So yeah, definitely all stuff that we can we can be thinking about. So yeah, yeah. So okay, I know I'm like out of time, but just a couple more quick things. So of course, I'm still waiting to hear about our home in the heart. [1:45:29] at Lynn Grant. We got it submitted in plenty of time. I'm just waiting to hear. [1:45:35] Well, I'll make a call on that. Okay. Yeah. I don't know how quickly they were making. [1:45:41] I actually talked to Steve Dawson this day, [1:45:44] Trisha, a couple weeks ago. He's aware of it. As you can probably imagine that second, [1:45:48] early on, a lot more than they anticipated. So they are working through that. This isn't their [1:45:53] area of expertise. They're really working with to make my move people on this. [1:45:59] Okay, yeah, I can reach out to Ben and yeah, I just want to go let y'all know we got it in with plenty of time just waiting just waiting to just waiting to hear [1:46:10] Let's see [1:46:12] Yes, that's okay. I guess we're good [1:46:17] You want me to keep talking? [1:46:19] You only have a few minutes [1:46:20] Okay, speaking of David's kind. Thank you. We got him on two different spots on the agenda here. Can we just combine all of it? [1:46:28] We don't have to go in and out of the Cindy side, and she couldn't meet with people her back to work, which is fine. [1:46:35] However, you want to do like, yeah, you want to move that, if there's time at the end. [1:46:38] We have to come out, you know, being a board and come back in to being bored, and then David's got to wait here another hour. [1:46:44] I was going to go if you want to do that. [1:46:45] We can do it. [1:46:46] Yeah. [1:46:47] Are you out here? [1:46:48] Yeah. [1:46:48] I'm sorry. [1:46:49] Exactly session. [1:46:50] I'm sure we do. [1:46:51] You guys probably do that. [1:46:53] Okay. [1:46:53] Can you do all three of them, David, quickly? [1:46:56] I'll do the best I can with what I got. [1:46:58] Let's just set it. [1:46:59] Yeah. [1:47:00] We're set. [1:47:01] I'm excited. [1:47:02] Sure. [1:47:03] I make the most of the time. [1:47:06] So if we go, if we do the health department, [1:47:08] professional development, and then we can, [1:47:11] we can then do the position. [1:47:14] Okay. [1:47:14] All at the same time. [1:47:15] Yeah. [1:47:15] Under the board of health. [1:47:16] Yeah. [1:47:17] Yeah. [1:47:17] That's what you were talking about. [1:47:19] Yeah. [1:47:19] We don't have to come back in. [1:47:21] come back and you have to turn back and get a quick motion to start it. Yeah, I'm going to [1:47:25] make a motion that we recess the Board of County Commission and reconvene this Board of County Health. [1:47:29] So I can move in seconded to recess this Board of County Commission and we can be in this Board of [1:47:36] County Health. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Morning, commissioners. David Adams, interim health department [1:47:41] director. So I'm here for two different items tied to the health department. The first is a request [1:47:47] for a health department professional development day. [1:47:51] This was actually started by the staff earlier this year, [1:47:55] believe in like March. [1:47:57] This is something that they had used to do annually [1:47:59] and were trying to bring it back. [1:48:02] So we picked this up, had a lot of good discussion [1:48:05] with some leadership about whether the value in such [1:48:10] and what we've come up with is an opportunity [1:48:14] to bring all the health department staff together. [1:48:16] We've got some real-world scenarios from the staff, and then we're going to put them together, and we're going to work through [1:48:26] integrating the services inside the health department. So the way that's going to look is [1:48:32] we're going to take one person from each [1:48:35] program and put them in a table together. [1:48:38] One person from each program and another table and doing it that way so that we're not siloed as we've had with dealt with in the past. [1:48:46] So they're sitting together, then we're going to go through some real-world examples and how would each table handle this situation? [1:48:55] Because we've noticed that there are staff who don't really know what other programs do. [1:49:00] There are staff who don't know other people within the organization. [1:49:04] And so this is really going to be a, [1:49:09] as it's called here, wrapping the services around the patients. [1:49:12] So, they have a patient who comes in, and they're there to see the clinic, and the clinic [1:49:18] says, hey, well, we can help you with this, but you really need WIC, or MCH, or whatever [1:49:24] the case may be. [1:49:26] And so, then, sitting at the table, they're going to say, okay, how would we get you from [1:49:30] the clinic to WIC, who do we talk to, how do we do this? [1:49:34] And they learn about the system, they learn about each other, and really are integrating [1:49:40] the entire health department as one instead of five individual programs so but as it says here, [1:49:49] the impact building a shared department-wide culture increasing cross-training and understanding [1:49:54] of health department services, improving communication and collaboration between programs, [1:50:00] developing more consistent referral and clients service processes and strengthening the overall client [1:50:05] experience. So those days already blocked off, has been blocked off for many months now. [1:50:15] But really we're really trying to make them one instead of five programs make them one health [1:50:23] department. So the raising Riley staff who this is what they do are the ones who have worked with [1:50:30] Elizabeth and Shanika and Toshin and put these scenarios together. [1:50:35] I've seen them, it's fantastic and they're taken one scenario from each group and working [1:50:43] to really make it an integrated department as we've talked about. [1:50:48] We're also going to use this opportunity while they're there. [1:50:51] We have a couple other issues like we've been working with Jacob on to have a little bit [1:50:58] of a staff meeting as well. [1:50:59] There are several things we need to talk about there. [1:51:04] So we will go ahead and make sure people know that they're closed that day from 8 to [1:51:09] 3. [1:51:10] They're already blocked off. [1:51:12] So there is no physical impact. [1:51:15] And I really believe this is important and what we have set up and what they have set up. [1:51:21] I'm really haven't been, I'm watching and reading emails but what they have set up I think is [1:51:26] is very good. It meets what we're trying to do, and I recommend that you allow us to close [1:51:33] the health department on the September 8th for the Department-wide Professional Development Day. [1:51:39] That's the difference here, but kind of like what the emergency is going to take [1:51:44] one of its emergency services once coming up, where everybody kind of comes to work together. [1:51:49] Exactly. It's the same concept. You have to be in the same room, use those scenarios, and learn [1:51:54] about each other, and they say, oh, well, you know, they may have this client and say, okay, [1:52:00] well, who do we go to? You may have Wixing, well, we can do something there, and then MCH go, [1:52:05] hey, there's something there for us, and that they just don't know these things. The staff do, [1:52:12] the leaders do, but not all the staff, and just to have that real-world example, I think, is going [1:52:17] to be invaluable for them. Is it that they don't know, or they don't really want to know each other? [1:52:23] Well, I think the staff want to know each other. [1:52:27] I think what we're dealing with is not necessary, always at that stamp level. [1:52:34] I think it was from the prior leadership. [1:52:38] So I don't, yes, okay. [1:52:41] Well, I don't, I think the staff want to know each other. [1:52:44] Well, sure, but I mean, we have this health department for how long and we're actually asking [1:52:50] this question at this point in time. [1:52:52] I mean, we've had professional days in the past two. [1:52:55] Right, correct. [1:52:56] And we've had other events in our own Christmas [1:53:00] and some of the holidays where there's interaction. [1:53:02] I just find it hard to believe that they, [1:53:05] I'm just finding that hard to believe, I'm sorry. [1:53:08] Well, it will be easier once you get the move [1:53:12] from FCRC into the health clinic area. [1:53:16] And this is kind of part of that step [1:53:18] of bringing them together, yes. [1:53:20] So. [1:53:21] Do you have any time table when that's going to actually happen? [1:53:24] We talked about it at the department head. [1:53:26] I've had conversations, John, element, and Korean in myself walked through that area on [1:53:32] Monday, and we told them we need to, the sooner the better so that we need to, we need to [1:53:39] make this happen. [1:53:40] So, we've got the diagram for the most part put together as far as what offices and it's [1:53:48] truly integrated. [1:53:49] I mean, there's WIC and MCH raising rally in the clinic with offices over there. [1:53:56] They're spread out throughout the building. [1:53:58] There is no one area where all of one program is at. [1:54:04] So they are spread out throughout and so some it may not be always the most efficient right [1:54:10] off the bat. [1:54:11] They may have to walk from their office down the hallway to do an assessment because the [1:54:16] offices, they start big like they've been in the FCRC, but this is how they're going to keep [1:54:22] learning each other and how the programs work is by having these interactions. [1:54:27] Yeah, and the clients will know they're not going to have to walk all over the place. [1:54:31] No, they'll go to one of two waiting rooms and then the staff will come get them. [1:54:36] Yes. Well, and this kind of thing will help. [1:54:39] I think this is going to help us a lot. Absolutely. [1:54:43] I don't like to say which hit range when Corey, I'm sure it has a bunch of work to do to get [1:54:48] it ready. [1:54:49] Yes. [1:54:50] Well, it's got a lot of balls. [1:54:51] There's IT stuff. [1:54:52] Really, it's going to be a lot of, you know, with carpeting, with fixing holes and walls [1:54:58] taking out sinks. [1:54:59] That kind of work. [1:55:02] But yeah, John has got some preliminary numbers. [1:55:06] but yeah, we've asked him to make this a priority. [1:55:15] That will help a lot. [1:55:17] Absolutely. [1:55:18] This meeting will be good to tell everybody what's happening. [1:55:25] Oh. [1:55:26] Oh. [1:55:28] No, it's okay. [1:55:30] Two things. [1:55:31] One, they're going to provide food for this professional development day [1:55:35] and our policy says we need approval. [1:55:37] So if we can get approval for that as well. [1:55:41] Yeah, it'll be through the workforce development grant. [1:55:44] So it's all an allowable expense, [1:55:45] but our policy says that they have to have direct approval [1:55:49] from the B.O.C.C. [1:55:50] And then the other thing is that from what I understand, [1:55:55] from John and Corey, is that that project hasn't officially [1:55:59] been presented to you all with the calls. [1:56:04] That's why I've asked him, John's got preliminary numbers, but he has not given me what he [1:56:11] think, you know, more solid numbers. [1:56:13] Right. [1:56:13] And they're preliminary numbers from, you know, John looking at it because we haven't [1:56:17] even, he hasn't taken it out to bid that we don't know where it's going to get paid out [1:56:20] of because it is not my recommendation for it to come out of unencumbered cash. [1:56:23] So that is not a feasible option to me. [1:56:26] But that is still I from my understanding staff is going to bring it to you within the next few weeks if they are able to. [1:56:35] So yes. [1:56:42] So for how many people? [1:56:45] For 40, 45 people. [1:56:49] Yes. [1:56:50] And it's it is like she said to the workforce development grant. [1:56:53] And this is well within those those parameters. [1:57:01] Can you see that by consensus? [1:57:03] That's just, but I'm going to say move the approved closure of the health [1:57:08] farm for on September 8th and then for development day, including the [1:57:13] furnished lunch. Okay, I'll wait a second. Okay, it's been moved and seconded to approve [1:57:19] closure. It really kind of helped the department to the public on September 8th. [1:57:25] We've partened why professional development day and that will include food [1:57:30] Okay, [1:57:34] so the next item I have from the Health Department is a request to fill an open position. [1:57:40] This is an open public health registered nurse position in the clinic [1:57:45] that we've received a resignation. We don't have an end date or official end date. [1:57:51] We're trying to, we're hoping, unless they're missed it, but we're hoping to make it [1:57:56] And about the same time, we have an employee coming back from having her baby, so, but [1:58:04] we, as a time, at the time of putting this in, she didn't have, to me, I had not received [1:58:09] a final end date, so, but she was trying to work it out with Bort Riley that she was trying [1:58:17] to help us and try to keep us covered best we can. [1:58:20] But this is a full-time RN who's responsible to see walk-in and schedule appointments within [1:58:24] the clinic at the Health Department. They will also at some point start helping again in [1:58:30] MCH, covering with some of those small programs that where they need a nurse to assist as well. [1:58:37] So this position is not, the nurses are not just in the clinic but they are, they do, will do [1:58:43] things with MCH as we have eliminated that MCH nurse position because we're cross-training and [1:58:50] in using our resources more efficiently. [1:58:57] It is a budgeted position, so there's no negative impact [1:59:00] and failure to fill the position result [1:59:03] to less patient seen in decrease in revenue, [1:59:07] but also it would not just affect the clinic, [1:59:11] it would also affect maternal and child health program. [1:59:17] And we've got the position description, if you'd like. [1:59:24] Why do we still have a full-time registered nurse position in health department? [1:59:29] Seconded to build a full-time registered nurse position in the health department. [1:59:36] Okay, move the paper. [1:59:37] Okay. [1:59:37] Take all the pictures. [1:59:38] Please sign. [2:00:15] This is not EMS. That was what the two items I had for the health department, from the health department. Sorry, which not. This is what part? No, this is with RC EMS. Oh, I wish there's a state. Okay. I know we've done them with. Yes, the health department. Yes, absolutely. Sorry about that. [2:00:37] We have to move recesses of the Board of Health and we will convene as the Board of [2:00:45] County. [2:00:46] All right. [2:00:48] Good morning, Commissioner. [2:00:49] David Adam's emergency. [2:00:50] I did. [2:00:52] Oh, I did. [2:00:52] Yeah. [2:00:53] I didn't say it well. [2:00:55] I saw. [2:00:56] I'm saying. [2:00:57] I'm sorry. [2:00:58] I did. [2:01:00] Oh, I didn't hear you. [2:01:02] Yeah. [2:01:02] I didn't say it well. [2:01:03] I saw. [2:01:04] I'm saying. [2:01:04] Hi, there we go. [2:01:06] All right. [2:01:07] Maybe I did. [2:01:08] ESPN or whatever. [2:01:09] Absolutely. [2:01:11] No, it's okay to say relax. [2:01:12] I hate to say we're on the same wavelength. [2:01:15] Yeah, me too. [2:01:17] Go ahead. [2:01:18] All right, David Adams, emergency services director. [2:01:20] And I'm here for a memorandum of understanding [2:01:22] between Wichita State University and Rada County EMS. [2:01:26] As you alluded to, we have these MOUs [2:01:30] between the health department in Wichita State. [2:01:31] This one, this is the same template. [2:01:35] It's just gone through Jacob's office. [2:01:37] We made revisions, sent it back to Wichita State to Jacob. [2:01:41] His office made revisions, Elizabeth made revisions, and here we are. [2:01:48] It's the exact same template. [2:01:50] But what this is is in emergency medical service training, [2:01:55] especially at the advanced DMT and paramedic level, [2:01:57] At the end of the training, the students do what's called an internship where they spend [2:02:02] time with a department and then how our department does it is we sign them one preceptor and [2:02:11] that is responsible for that student and while they're with us. [2:02:15] So this is for advanced DMT students who will spend six shifts with us. [2:02:21] We assign them to one shift, each person to one shift to one preceptor at headquarter station. [2:02:30] And the preceptor works with them in the station, in trucks, learning equipment, [2:02:34] how we operate, how we do things, and then mentors them on calls. [2:02:42] So that's what they do in this regard. [2:02:45] and then they help prepare them for their final exams and their state [2:02:50] licensure. So but it's got the MOU is here if you have any questions but we [2:03:03] Elizabeth has made sure to take out that any that you know that we're not [2:03:08] providing them a computer we're not providing them a their own office any of [2:03:14] those things that we had seen in some of the previous different step schools want a county [2:03:19] to provide or an organization to provide, which is none of that. [2:03:23] So this is straight, being on shift, they'll have their own bedroom, obviously, but straight [2:03:29] on shift with the crew, with the preceptor, they have to go through the background checks [2:03:34] and all of that, just like another intern from another department, which ensures that [2:03:42] that the people we serve know that who's taking care of them meets the Riley County standards. [2:03:50] So, and I think that's important. [2:03:56] Do you have any questions? [2:03:57] Do you have to help get more people creating this? [2:04:00] Absolutely. [2:04:01] Well, and you know, the thing about this, which state doesn't do this with everybody? [2:04:05] I mean, they, I know Riley County, I believe Butler County, you know, County or the Senate, [2:04:11] the three that they spend the most with because of our call volume, right? [2:04:14] But you can go to Topeeker or Kansas City, you've run lots of calls, but you don't have [2:04:18] that mentoring. [2:04:21] So, but they'll get of wide variety calls here, they'll get enough of what they need. [2:04:24] But in these medium-sized departments, they get that mentoring and such. [2:04:30] That's just as important as seeing calls. [2:04:33] So we're really happy when they reached out to us and had Josh met with the staff and [2:04:40] had really good conversations. And I've met the program director a couple times, very, [2:04:46] very professional, professionally done, obviously. But we're excited about this. [2:04:55] I guess with that, I'll make a motion to approve the memorandum, a memorandum of understanding [2:05:01] between Rally County and Wichita State University. Second. [2:05:05] Yes, I'm moved and seconded to approve the memorandum of understanding between Rally County and Wichita State [2:05:11] University. All right. All right. All right. [2:05:14] We'll start. [2:05:15] Did you get your measures and you're done with me from the day? [2:05:18] Just the day. [2:05:20] All weekend. Okay. [2:05:22] I tried to get on the agenda for Monday. [2:05:24] Cindy said I had all day. [2:05:26] You did it. Yeah. [2:05:27] You can go down here and talk all you want. [2:05:28] Good to go. [2:05:30] Good to go. [2:05:34] It's such going all the way to ten fifths. [2:05:37] I don't know where to sign this. [2:05:43] Right there by the. [2:05:45] Well, I know, I'll write there. [2:05:55] It's probably here because I'm out of it. [2:05:59] Go ahead and make a motion. [2:06:01] Okay. [2:06:02] County commissioners, including Cheryl and Vokey. [2:06:04] Vice Chairman Ford. [2:06:06] Mission of the Kenway with Jacob Hanson County. [2:06:08] Counselor Michael Hawthorne. [2:06:10] Assistant County Counselor. [2:06:11] Turnings for the commission in rich bar. [2:06:13] go to any clerk recess to executive session for attorney client consultation regarding [2:06:17] pending litigation, section to the Kansas Open Meetings Act, the Open Meetings to resume [2:06:23] in the chamber at 10.55 a.m. [2:06:27] Okay. [2:06:30] Okay. [2:06:30] Yes. [2:06:32] Okay. [2:06:33] Yes. [2:23:04] We're back. Okay. Motion. [2:23:10] I'll move the county. Oops. This is not completely out gone. Sorry. I'll move the Board of [2:23:16] County Commissioners from out executive session. Second. I moved in second. The Board of County [2:23:21] Commissioners come out of the executive session on favor. I also move at the record reflect actions [2:23:28] shall be taken consistent with the consensus reached an executive session. [2:23:32] Second. [2:23:33] It's removed and seconded that record reflect actions shall be taken consistent with a consensus [2:23:39] reached in executive session. [2:23:41] All in favor? [2:23:42] Aye. [2:23:42] Aye. [2:23:46] I'll be right back. [2:23:47] So does that. [2:23:48] Two minutes. [2:23:54] But you might want to, because we got less than two minutes. [2:23:57] Okay. [2:23:59] Well, wait. [2:24:04] Where are you going? [2:24:06] Good. [2:24:07] For you. [2:24:07] You're right. [2:24:12] It's a cloud and up back behind us. I didn't read somewhere that there was isolated showers believe it must stand outside. [2:24:21] When I know it's cool off. [2:24:23] It's going to be hot for me. [2:24:25] And then after the rain, it's just going to be more humid. Rainy comes down one. [2:24:41] It's a love word question. It's related to love word that I had. [2:24:45] That's the problem. [2:24:46] All right. [2:25:05] I mean, yeah, I'll leave it to you on how to act for [2:25:10] the brain of art. [2:25:12] And [2:25:15] if there is progress. [2:25:17] Yeah. [2:25:18] Well, that's why I was thinking, maybe, [2:25:19] where I wish we wouldn't have it. [2:25:21] So I can play for two very good abstracts. [2:25:26] Yeah. [2:25:26] Right. [2:25:28] Yeah. [2:25:28] Yeah. [2:25:29] Okay. [2:26:21] That sounds like a little kid. [2:26:23] That's what I was expecting. [2:26:33] It's like a low-level wall there not can something out. [2:26:36] Yeah, almost like they were about to fall through the scene. [2:26:38] Yeah, they always did over here. [2:26:41] Peel in the carpet today. [2:26:43] We heard. [2:26:45] I speak where it is. [2:27:11] It's a good thing we have David. [2:27:13] Go a little earlier. [2:27:14] We are. [2:27:14] Okay. [2:27:16] I'll call you. [2:27:17] Yeah. [2:27:18] I was watching you. [2:27:21] How about this? [2:27:22] Yeah. [2:27:23] It's not. [2:27:26] It looks good. [2:27:28] I'll go ahead. [2:27:30] I [2:28:24] want to die. [2:28:35] Good. [2:28:36] Good. [2:28:37] Good. [2:28:37] Good. [2:28:38] Good. [2:28:40] Good. [2:28:41] Good. [2:28:41] Good. [2:28:57] Good morning. [2:28:58] Good morning. [2:29:00] Good morning. [2:29:00] Your day is going well. [2:29:01] Urs is always. [2:29:03] It's a little noisy in here. [2:29:05] Yeah. [2:29:06] I can't imagine why for what reason just you know go to the need of the cameras or you know, I'm actually thinking about going up there and joining them [2:29:17] Yeah, so I guess I'll open yeah, Corey my IT guys directly here for staffs on me [2:29:24] I've had a couple of those days lately. I walked up in there and I got I need a hammer guys [2:29:29] So I want to do what you're doing. Yeah [2:29:34] It's been a busy month [2:29:35] with many projects going on, touch a little bit on budget and what we're seeing. [2:29:42] Average prices on all parts, products, pieces of anything IT now is roughly up 25%. [2:29:50] Whether you're looking for printers, any device that everything is now seeing higher, [2:29:56] but especially as I've said before in the Compute Storage. [2:30:00] Those areas, you know, we're in ethics cards that we need on things now are all costs here, but we're watching and managing those. My biggest concern when it comes budgetarily is what reflection we might see from our vendors who are seeing those hardware cost increases, and if they're going to reflect those back on us, which I'm sure is coming. I have not seen it yet, but I'm sure it's coming in as everybody knows. Yeah, it's going to, they're going to push it back on this. [2:30:28] But we will deal with that as it comes in the area of email filter. It has been busy in there. There was some state level entities, well as some other local county entities that had compromised over the last two months we dealt with. [2:30:45] We came out fine. We were also the one who determined and let some certain entities know that they were compromised and one being state. [2:30:59] So we work through that with them and their IT and what they did and we have, but what that had done, especially if it involves state is those emails go to quarantine and we get a lot from the state every day. [2:31:12] We worked through them, made some changes within our department so we were continuously watching as those happen to try to do those releases as quickly as possible to not slow down business. [2:31:26] We are moving forward with our transition I've talked about of our, from VMware to Hyper-V. [2:31:35] And again, the explanation is that is instead of having 80 physical servers in there, we run [2:31:41] a virtual environment that allows us to have more like 8 servers, but each one of those hosts [2:31:46] a lot of what we do. [2:31:47] he's our hardware cost down. [2:31:50] And in doing that transition, we are trying, [2:31:52] we from those one product to another [2:31:56] is to save on a licensing cost [2:31:58] that we've been hit with lately. [2:32:01] But that is a long drawn out process [2:32:03] to change the entire back in the infrastructure [2:32:05] of our servers and how they work together. [2:32:09] In fact, we sat in a two-hour meeting yesterday [2:32:12] just elaborating and liberating on how we were doing that [2:32:16] and some changes that have recently come to us and some of our software applications work, [2:32:21] especially in dealing with preparing ourselves for the AI and its integration into a lot [2:32:27] of the products that we have and making sure that what we're putting in place is going to be able [2:32:31] to handle the needs of that process and compute power. We're also looking at outside of the box type [2:32:40] things when it comes to network upgrade and server conduct consolidation, is it possible? [2:32:46] We consider we have three campuses, the downtown RCOB campus, the EMS health campus and [2:32:52] those. [2:32:52] And then out of public works, could we potentially eliminate even having servers at those [2:32:58] locations and they would be accessing their data officer from servers of one of the other [2:33:03] two campuses. [2:33:04] So then we don't need to spend money on three servers at that site, you know, which costs [2:33:09] right now the price tag would be $150,000, so we're evaluating maybe if we're paying $100 [2:33:17] more a month to double our internet speed, give them faster connection back overall, so we're [2:33:24] evaluating those on a one year, three year, five year cost out to seven years, which would be a [2:33:30] server purchase and replace time frame. Where does that land us budgetarily long-term? And if it's a [2:33:35] cost savings and we may move forward with that. [2:33:38] And you eliminate two data centers. [2:33:41] And yeah, baby ones. [2:33:43] But yeah, I mean, it is what it's correct in the, yeah. [2:33:48] So that's an evaluation of what we're doing [2:33:50] to try to see where we can, you know, [2:33:52] do some things on our budget. [2:33:54] So we're going forward. [2:33:55] We'll see how that works out. [2:33:57] The EM building remodels wrapping up [2:33:59] some small tweaks changes now that they're in there [2:34:02] and getting used to how things work. [2:34:04] What do we need to adjust and things will do to the doors? [2:34:07] We're still in the process of completing the backup dispatch. [2:34:12] That's a very drawn out process. [2:34:14] It takes a while. [2:34:14] I'm working with state 911, AT&T's, tiger team, [2:34:18] and all of the parts and pieces that come into that, [2:34:21] but it's looking good, and it's working very well. [2:34:23] I always said there's a more mobile [2:34:26] type of system on there where they can use it in the, [2:34:30] we're either dispatch place or the mobile unit [2:34:32] and it just connects all the way around. [2:34:34] So I'm guessing it'll take a while [2:34:36] to reintegrate all that. [2:34:38] It will, yeah, but it's coming together well. [2:34:41] It's functioning well. [2:34:42] We have regular meetings on that [2:34:43] to talk about how it's going, [2:34:45] meeting with Tyler at dispatch when he's out and testing. [2:34:49] So I foresee in the next couple of months, [2:34:52] we will be able to say that that's truly live. [2:34:54] But it also takes the state 911 to check all the boxes [2:34:58] to say that your operation will end in place. [2:35:01] So yeah, it's going well there are remodel as you hear on a regular basis. It is actually going [2:35:09] well and moving forwarding schedule. They'll be done with demolition today. They will be swinging [2:35:16] metal in on Tuesday and actually taking it through the window. [2:35:23] Yeah, so just close your eyes. [2:35:27] Yeah, the good news is they're new windows. If they try to do with the old windows, [2:35:33] And then after that, we're here that they're going to take the two parts of the window out and when they bring in sheet rock, they're going to swing it through there. So hey, that doesn't be an interesting day. [2:35:46] Oh, yeah, you're looking for excitement. [2:35:48] And other than a continuous wearer excitement in the alley, [2:35:51] then yeah, I don't know who's working wearin'. [2:35:56] Yeah. [2:35:57] Say, hey, congratulations on you. [2:36:01] What's there, is it the wearer? [2:36:02] You know, I would say, if you're today or if it was tomorrow, [2:36:07] you ought to go upstairs and look with the drop ceiling gone [2:36:10] and you go on. [2:36:11] So this morning, driving through, [2:36:13] you can look through the windows [2:36:14] and see all the way through the backside, [2:36:16] all the way down the road. [2:36:16] So it's almost, I've used the word said, it's almost a little discouraging that we put [2:36:24] and drop ceiling back and cover a quarter of the windows, like what's here, the amount [2:36:29] of light and yeah, it is, it's a really neat look up there right now, I do that without [2:36:38] any of that up there. [2:36:39] in the higher cup. Yeah, I liked it when I came in here with him. I said, oh, that's cool, [2:36:44] it's not really great. And uncovering more mysteries of this building and interesting things about it. [2:36:51] And I think 1982 readers digest or something that was in the walls and things, the discoveries [2:37:14] But moving along, there's your view coming back. [2:37:20] The many discoveries though are how the water lines connect the breaker panels and what [2:37:25] they go to and so we are regularly meeting and talking and working through when they will be [2:37:31] power shutoffs, when there will be water shutoffs, the gas line that comes into the building has to [2:37:37] be upsized. And so all those are being planned on non-work hours or holidays or even weekends of [2:37:43] what those will be done so that we maintain operation for the rest of the departments. We've worked [2:37:48] with elections to know when their days are that they cannot be any loss power service internet [2:37:54] at any of those. So we are working through all the scheduled dates and making sure that [2:38:00] they I send I send them every time the agenda comes out. Your quiet time is from here [2:38:05] to here and your noisy time is here after and trying to and and hearing to the best they [2:38:13] can keep in the noise down like when we have commission meetings. So for law board this [2:38:17] afternoon, they're aware of that. They should be staying quiet in those kind of things. [2:38:23] So, working that very closely and trying to keep that tight. [2:38:27] And they are very good to work with BHS, very good to work with them there. [2:38:34] The reorganization conversations, many like you've heard from Dave this morning, [2:38:39] work with them at the Health Department. Discussions for where the Administrator Department, [2:38:44] as a whole, will go. The potential move of extension out to the Health Department area to open up [2:38:53] that location where so those are still ongoing conversations meetings planning and those kind of things but it's a series of dominoes right the dominoes have to be stacked up in one domino down before the next. [2:39:06] As you heard from Dave that we met John and I met him Monday went through the plan and we are now ready to as as he alluded to that John will have some numbers filled to bring back to be able to get that moving forward out there but that's domino number one if we. [2:39:22] We don't do that, we can't move anything else as we go forward. [2:39:26] So, we will act and move this quickly as we can once those things are in place and [2:39:32] John's evaluating and putting together who those would be and go to bid and those processes [2:39:38] to adhere to policies. [2:39:43] We've got monitor upgrades to public works, we are done with laptop replacements, we will [2:39:49] not be doing any... [2:39:50] We did desktop replacements in Treasurer's office, we will not be doing any more this year. [2:39:57] Again, those things are all to make sure that I hold on to dollars as long as I can to the end [2:40:02] of the budget year with various changes, costs, and so forth that we have going on. [2:40:10] The Health Department EMR working with them on their data conversion. [2:40:15] We finally got that downloaded and now we're working through that. [2:40:19] The public works conference room and in the basement, it will be upgraded and fully replaced. [2:40:25] Let me say it that way. It will be replaced in October. We've got scheduled dates for that. [2:40:30] That conference room will be a full, what we call matrix as the word much like an emergency management. [2:40:37] When you plug in somewhere, you can pick that you want by display to show on screens one and three and something else can show on two and four. [2:40:46] work and and we can the way that will work. [2:40:49] Okay. [2:40:49] Okay. [2:40:50] Okay. [2:40:51] Okay. [2:40:52] Yeah. [2:40:53] Okay. [2:40:54] Yeah. [2:40:56] I believe that was that department and meeting Russell said they just had there's a conference [2:41:00] in town and they went out and they quite a few emergency management directors went in and [2:41:05] looked at it how they could do and they were jealous. [2:41:07] So that's good. [2:41:08] Yeah. [2:41:09] I like that. [2:41:10] Yeah. [2:41:11] I like that very much. [2:41:12] taking some like pictures or video of all the all the wiring harnesses and [2:41:17] everything before you hook them up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [2:41:23] Yeah. What is it? Oh, you got all the work is we do. We do. It's tedious. We go [2:41:29] through it. Yeah. So in each one of those cables, it's got eight wires in it. [2:41:33] And those eight wires have to be put in the plug in the right order. It don't work. Oh, yeah. [2:41:39] We'll be upgrading our AS-400 in October as well. [2:41:44] That device serves our Comtick application. [2:41:48] That's tax counting, so it affects clerk treasure [2:41:51] and brazier's office primarily. [2:41:53] Worked out dates with him that it works. [2:41:55] And that would be started on a Friday afternoon around [2:41:58] two o'clock and then it will complete on a Saturday [2:42:01] so that it does not affect operations as they're working. [2:42:06] We're still on track for a reflight of our imagery and November-ish in there, working on [2:42:13] our Azure Migration and GIS. [2:42:16] That's a big part of the server upgrades and things that we're doing as well. [2:42:20] As we know, it'll take 10 servers to run that with the AI integration that's built into [2:42:26] it as well and those syncs in there. [2:42:29] The new Azure that's coming out for all internal users as well as those of the Charles Wilson's [2:42:35] all the outside entities that use it for they've got some really new cool features coming [2:42:39] up. [2:42:39] You can load up two sets of imagery at one time and you can scroll across that they move [2:42:45] together. [2:42:46] You can see these before and after's if there's a there's a lot of neat tools in it and [2:42:51] now you can ask it questions show me all the properties within this kind of range and [2:42:57] it just processes and finds it, which is why we've got to have the right compute power behind it. [2:43:03] You can put in just a name as an example what what Commissioner District does Rich [2:43:12] Vargo live in. And because Rich Vargo's name is there, it'll go in and look at the layer [2:43:18] that has Commissioner Districts and it will drill down to that show you. It is- [2:43:25] We'll tell some other things about Rich. That's its limits. I set that. Yeah, that's it. But that's an example. It's now more of a more of like a Google search. Yeah, search [2:43:40] Out there and ask questions and it goes and retrieves. It's a pretty amazing. It's pretty cool stuff. That was not all public heard. Yes, it is. So somebody could find my address just by [2:43:51] like an end my name, I can't anyway already. [2:43:56] Yeah, that already exists. [2:43:59] Yeah, you know, if you go back with the old fold up maps, [2:44:02] yeah, that, yeah, does take longer to fold them back up. [2:44:08] Yeah, yeah. [2:44:10] Takes longer to find one. [2:44:11] Where you, you can get them on Amazon. [2:44:14] Yeah, yeah, that's in the wall of a remodel somewhere. [2:44:17] Yeah, problem. [2:44:18] And yeah, again, we are going to move forward again with the giving us a GIS intern that was highly successful in my GIS staff misses having that person already for a lot of the data entry and things like they were able to successfully do. [2:44:36] And we're also visiting with public works on what they could do for updating their data and a lot of collection. [2:44:42] influence and things that they've done of signs, meters, you know, and some of those things. [2:44:46] So that was very successful for us. And then we're going to look to at the end of the year or the [2:44:50] first of next year. I do have a budget in 27. So the first year is replacing our GPS units. [2:44:57] Our current units right now, it's a stake. You have to... [2:45:00] Go to the exact spot, put it on there. The new units now, they actually have a laser on them and you could point to and where it hits that, then it, it collects the points off that so you don't need to get onto people's property as much or in a big pile of weeds or it's this this point is stuck under a tree that you're trying to crawl to or in those kind of things or a pit or ditch that's dug and you need to set that point for what the bottom of it was then you can just shoot laser down in the [2:45:29] bottom instead of crawling down into that and so forth so it should, and it's much more [2:45:35] accurate. The State Kansas is also getting ready to release and put out a network that [2:45:43] you can connect to to help in collection of those GPS points as well. So outside of that [2:45:50] we also a couple of months ago we started a new ticketing system which many of you may [2:45:55] you've seen or had emails from. So we'll start reporting on it. Let me know that in the month of [2:46:01] August we did 1,331 help this tickets. It's around 66 the day, 65, 66 the day. What's not in [2:46:13] there is if it called by phone and answered and we haven't started manually entering those in there. [2:46:19] So that's a rough idea and we'll give you how many. It's all about six of those of me every day. [2:46:24] That's okay. That is what we're here for. [2:46:28] I haven't actually came. [2:46:30] But it is interesting to see that. [2:46:32] The most importantly, it's a reference for us. [2:46:35] This search tool to go back. [2:46:37] We get the number of volume now that. [2:46:40] When they say that James helped me before on this. [2:46:43] Well, then I can search and go back and find. [2:46:46] And we can use that as a resource to be able to be more efficient in our support. [2:46:50] work to help everybody out, especially as the volume is [2:46:53] to see a higher. [2:46:55] So I got, there's any other questions I'm sort of answering? [2:46:59] All right. [2:47:00] Thank you. [2:47:01] Thanks for it. [2:47:02] Thanks for it. [2:47:03] So what is time for guessing? [2:47:06] And look at it. [2:47:07] I guess. [2:47:09] You like it. [2:47:13] Like it? [2:47:14] It's an ante. [2:47:15] That's a 30% substantial amount. [2:47:17] It looks like it has a 30-year bug study. [2:47:20] Yeah, it's in the graph. [2:47:34] I'm here today to speak to you about line item adjustments. As a reminder, the Kansas Department of Corrections does require that any time we have line item adjustments totaling $5,000 or more or 1% of our current years grant award or more whichever tire. [2:47:50] We do have to get permission for the line item adjustments from our joint corrections [2:47:57] advisory board as well as the Board of County Commissioners. [2:48:01] So for our adult services grant, we had 8,830-170 thick and I'm sorry, in unexpended funds [2:48:13] due to some personnel changes. [2:48:14] We used these leftover funds for a variety of expenses, the largest one being [2:48:21] soundmasking system that was installed throughout our office. We've had some much [2:48:25] needed room for improvement regarding enhancing our privacy and confidentiality [2:48:30] and we've been really happy with that so far. Other purchases were bought in our [2:48:35] new window. We got the new windows on our floor but no blinds and it's been great [2:48:39] having that natural light, but has made it very, very hot and very, very bright. So it's cut [2:48:45] down on computer screen glare when we appreciate that. And additionally, we got some cognitive skills [2:48:51] tools for some of our clients and some other additional office supplies. Our joint [2:48:56] preference advisory board did need on the 27th last week and approved the adjustments as presented [2:49:02] in the adult services one. And I am here today for you to go ahead and do the same. [2:49:07] I [2:49:10] think we do these about every time this year, that way, numbers change a little bit, but the process is the same. [2:49:17] I'll make a motion into close the line item adjustments totaling $8,813.76 [2:49:25] for submission to the Kansas Department of Corrections. [2:49:28] I'll second. [2:49:29] So moved and seconded to approve the line item adjustments totaling $8,813.76 [2:49:38] or submission to the Kansas Department of Corrections and Pfizer. [2:49:42] Chair, please sign up. [2:49:44] I [2:49:48] won't go over the entire thing for juvenile services. [2:49:50] It's essentially the same thing. [2:49:52] It's put everything pretty much 50-50. [2:49:54] We had a little bit additional left in juvenile services. [2:49:57] So that adjustment would be 11,155-10. [2:50:03] Those are the things by paper. [2:50:05] Most of your guys, e-sign, though. [2:50:07] So we have to upload it. [2:50:09] every year it's a little different. Yeah. This year they sent us forms that I can fill in [2:50:14] life but I can't actually get your signature like that. So I have to bring down the printed [2:50:20] copy and then upload it. I got a way to solve that problem it's called a stamp. Yeah you've tried [2:50:26] this before. We're going to continue I'm not viewing up on it. And I will let her make it take over [2:50:34] Okay. [2:50:36] Yeah, I'm going to approve the enclosed line out of adjustments totally in 11,000 165 dollars and 10 cents for submissions to the Kansas Department of Corrections. [2:50:45] Second. [2:50:46] I moved in seconded to approve the enclosed line out of adjustments. [2:50:52] 11,165 dollars and 10 cents for submission to the Kansas Department of Corrections. [2:50:57] All in favor? [2:50:58] All right. [2:50:59] Sure, please. [2:51:02] Good [2:51:31] morning, commissioners, Megan Lewis of Riley County Community Corrections. [2:51:35] I am here to visit with you about our care coordinator contractual provisions attachment for our MOU. [2:51:42] We have a care coordinator position that we've had since, I believe, 2013. [2:51:46] And that position is a collaboration with Bonnie Middle Health, [2:51:50] Brett burning as the individual in that position. [2:51:52] He is housed in our office, but employed through Bonnie Middle Health. [2:51:55] We received behavioral health funds from the Kansas Department of Corrections from a [2:51:59] majority of that position, totaling $100,902.28, and then the remainder of the amount [2:52:07] that we put in there. [2:52:09] So we received $96,493, and then we also add $4,409.28, and then the difference is provided [2:52:16] by Pontimental Health. [2:52:17] And we are here today to ask your approval for the contractual provisions attachment with [2:52:22] our MOU. [2:52:25] that has been reviewed and accepted by Jacob. [2:52:28] You know, the question is do you know, [2:52:30] I only do this every year too. [2:52:32] Yeah, I'll go ahead and make a motion [2:52:34] to approve contractual provision attachments [2:52:36] between Riley County Community Corrections [2:52:38] and Punty Mental Health Services. [2:52:40] So I can sort of move in a second to approve [2:52:43] the contractual provisions attachment [2:52:46] between Riley County Community Corrections [2:52:48] and Punty Mental Health Services. [2:52:50] Thank you very much. [2:52:51] Bye. [2:52:51] Hi. [2:52:52] Jennifer, please sign. [2:53:07] Thank you. [2:53:08] Everything we had on the agenda today is a three from three. [2:53:10] Yes. [2:53:12] It's just going through the motions. [2:53:19] That's okay. [2:53:24] It makes it simpler. [2:53:26] We could have a room full of people. [2:53:29] You're right. [2:53:30] Thank [2:53:38] you. [2:53:39] Okay. [2:53:40] Our last item on the agenda today is to address our request to fill the part time on [2:53:45] called juvenile intake position. We are left again with reduced number of individuals on our roster [2:53:52] to cover the 24 seven responsibilities of juvenile intake and assessment. In the past, we have had [2:53:59] anywhere from six to eight individuals. We currently have five. Unfortunately, we had six, one resigned, [2:54:04] and then another one has reduced for hours. She took a different full-time job, so she can [2:54:09] and that poses a problem for us when we need to cover from 5 p.m. to 8 a.m. [2:54:13] They're very difficult positions to fill because we do have to make sure that that individual is responsible [2:54:21] and they're timely, they respond to the calls from law enforcement two in the morning or four in the morning, whenever. [2:54:27] And so what I'd also like to ask today in addition to the request of ill, [2:54:31] it's to see if the commission would be willing to consider making this an evergreen position [2:54:35] to where when I do get those notices if I could go ahead and automatically advertise and try to fill that. [2:54:42] Because it doesn't, it's not going to cost us any additional. We are allotted a total of 600 hours for the year. [2:54:48] And so it doesn't matter how many people we have on our roster. It just means I have a backup plan for when this happens. [2:55:03] that's something new here. [2:55:05] I haven't heard of it. [2:55:06] So I reached out to HR and asked what are my options so that I could, [2:55:11] they could act fast when this happens. [2:55:13] And they, that was what was presented to me is I could present it to you as a commission. [2:55:18] And it could be placed as an evergreen position so that I could, [2:55:20] I guess there's some other on call positions within the county that. [2:55:25] I don't know if that's like EMS or whatever that is, [2:55:26] but they indicated that there is some unique situations. [2:55:30] and that that might be an option. They were not able to be here today to support that, but they did [2:55:34] they did support it in talking to them. So they have a green means it's ongoing. [2:55:40] Yes. And you've been silent as yes. So I can continue to fill it rather than a delay. [2:55:45] So what happened? It was a tree. When you got it. What the other day was the individual, [2:55:52] it was due to a medical situation. And so she had taken it, she was too great. She had taken a [2:55:57] a bunch of shifts and I had to figure out for the month of September how I'm going to fill that. [2:56:01] And if I had a little bit more of my roster to where I have a backup plan, that would that would [2:56:05] really help me. I think that makes sense. I don't have a problem with that. [2:56:12] That's already chaotic and enough. Let's try to make it as easy as possible. [2:56:17] That's fine with me. Okay. [2:56:19] It would be just that period enough for you to be curious. [2:56:23] I guess they charge it. [2:56:25] How many of those pledges? [2:56:27] How many of those positions do you have? [2:56:29] No. [2:56:30] Not again. [2:56:31] I have no idea. [2:56:32] It was April, didn't it? [2:56:33] Oh, for us? [2:56:34] You don't know. [2:56:34] Oh, you mean in the county? [2:56:36] Oh, oh. [2:56:37] Yeah, okay. [2:56:38] I honestly think so. [2:56:39] I've never heard before. [2:56:40] Yeah. [2:56:40] I think it's bad. [2:56:41] I just haven't heard before. [2:56:43] The election workers are long because it's always posted. [2:56:47] and then fall into your fire and we see them as probably so another one. [2:56:51] Oh, yeah. [2:56:51] Oh, it wasn't that way and we did that in 2019 or 2020. [2:56:56] Yeah, I don't remember that. [2:56:57] You'll always see those jobs posted on the website. [2:57:00] No. [2:57:01] No money chart, but when I'm searching, you know what, I just just hear it. [2:57:05] I wasn't. [2:57:06] I'm just curious. [2:57:08] And to search whatever green position meant. [2:57:10] When that, you know, in the course under, I was like, [2:57:12] I've heard it called that. [2:57:13] Yeah, but it is what's typically referred to in like contracts, usually everything we need. We're going to agree to this term, and it's just going to automatically renew forever. [2:57:23] Usually with that. [2:57:24] No, I might have a problem with depending, but not here. [2:57:29] Okay. [2:57:34] How many juvenile intake officers you have total. [2:57:37] So right now I have five on the books, the one which actually two cannot work [2:57:42] really. One is marriage to someone in law enforcement. And so she is, she is [2:57:46] really stuck with his schedule that rotates. How many can in my higher up to technically budget it says six to eight and it's [2:57:54] worth it. Yeah, it's just sometimes you don't have any good candidates or anybody that's applied and then when you do I want [2:57:59] I would like to keep it open. I think there's some time that we had eight but there was half of them doing a part-time [2:58:04] type settings. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Okay. [2:58:09] I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the [2:58:12] request to hire additional part-time. I'll call you and I'll intake an assessment officer's [2:58:17] and make the position in evergreen position. Oh, second. Yes, I'm moved and seconded to approve [2:58:24] the request to hire additional part-time. I'll call juvenile intake and assessment officers to make [2:58:30] the position and evergreen position. [2:58:33] Thank you. [2:58:35] Let's go. [2:58:36] I'll pass. [2:58:37] Pain would have to be a little sweet. [2:58:40] We all learned something new. [2:58:41] I'm going to go in the Christmas time. [2:58:43] Yeah. [2:58:44] I hope you had a happy little sweet. [2:58:46] Thank you, every green. [2:58:48] Thank you, Mr. Thank you. [2:58:52] Yeah, thank you. [2:58:54] Learned with your view while you got it. [2:58:56] It got some ear in here. [2:58:58] Do you notice that? [2:59:08] I'm going to take a piece back. I gotta think that's not going to be there for that much [2:59:15] wrong. [2:59:15] I will have all the. [2:59:17] Yeah. [2:59:17] Yeah. [2:59:18] You don't have other trades that need to dump well. [2:59:23] on the sheet, that's one of the sheet boxes. [2:59:26] He says, let's over all of us wire up. [2:59:30] We just filled those out in the window, don't you? [2:59:32] Cody, they weren't throwing some off the back yesterday. [2:59:34] They were. [2:59:38] OK. [2:59:40] I don't have anything else. [2:59:42] That's a pretty good morning. [2:59:45] But I need to know that we have some unfinished business [2:59:47] to take care of, do we not? [2:59:48] We do. [2:59:49] What is it? [2:59:51] We're not. [2:59:52] Wow. [2:59:53] Oh, yeah. [2:59:53] That's time in the year. [2:59:54] Come on now, get engaged and I've got a second piece of unfinished business after the day with this [3:00:01] I don't think we're going to meet the 40-and-a-half spread. I think that we kind of come out a little lagish and it takes a while, or we, that's justified need to put in our second and third team. So I'm going to go 42-13. [3:00:37] Yeah, Jacob 3812 you're not allowed to get any help from my code can't see this to do with Craig. 35 seven. [3:00:47] Sounds like our defense is supposed to be salty. So yeah, and we'll see even with a bunch of new guys. So I can't wait to that middle line backer. And the running back that just the same. [3:00:57] Hey, he is. I want to see the defense event transfer for Oklahoma State. That's who I'm a. Yeah, but part of the defensive. Yeah. Yeah. [3:01:06] I thought of a tie break. [3:01:07] Okay, so why is this a tie break? [3:01:09] Uh-oh. [3:01:10] And you guys are here. [3:01:12] Indian flag wrestling? [3:01:13] Yeah, that's a tie. [3:01:15] That's a tie. [3:01:15] Well, if you do a room, you're gonna have a tie. [3:01:17] If we decide to actually pick a season record. [3:01:23] Oh, okay. [3:01:26] Are we gonna go to the end? [3:01:27] I gotta see him play. [3:01:29] Nope, fine. [3:01:30] Gotta do it, gotta do it, facing him, [3:01:31] gonna do it up front, yeah. [3:01:33] I'm gonna go eight and four with the bowl game, [3:01:35] nine and four. [3:01:35] How many games do we have? [3:01:37] 12. 12. 12. 12. [3:01:39] Just a regular season. [3:01:41] Yeah, just a regular season. [3:01:42] Yeah, I'm paying for them. [3:01:45] I would mind reading. [3:01:47] What do you think Jacob? [3:01:49] Some five. [3:01:52] Anything? [3:01:53] Catherine. [3:01:53] Okay, how many total? [3:01:55] 12. [3:01:56] Ten and two. [3:01:57] Ten and two. [3:01:58] Yeah, good wide range. [3:02:00] We all hope you are right. [3:02:02] We do. [3:02:03] I do. [3:02:04] We can. Well, that's all I went eight and four as well. Let's go. [3:02:11] We're done. That was before. [3:02:14] Okay. They're all there on the pad. Okay. [3:02:19] One last motion. Yep. We'll make a motion that we adjourn the September 3rd meeting, [3:02:23] the rally County Commission. Happy Labor Day. Everybody go cats. [3:02:28] Oh, yeah. I am going back next week and then the next Monday after that. So [3:02:34] Well, I'll be back if I survive off the mountain. [3:02:37] So we'll take you again. [3:02:39] Yeah. Okay. Well, it's been moved and seconded to adjourn the September 3rd meeting of the Rowland County Commission. [3:02:46] All in favor? [3:02:47] Okay. [3:02:47] Hi.