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Okay. Okay. We just run the CIP yearly. We just started that baby.

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And now it's just nothing but a dream.

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That you wake up to everything.

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I've been in Maryland all this season.

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We're in the flip to switch.

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I flip this one.

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I like it.

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I think we picked five.

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Yeah, it's the best thing about two minutes.

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Oh, I can't see.

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That's even better.

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I like that.

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Yes, but we're seeing our vast audience as opposed to whoever I'm in front of us.

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But what does it mean?

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They ain't always saying bag of malware, Stan, ma'am.

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I'm not taking it all out.

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We've just gotten out of here.

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appreciate y'all coming.

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and hopefully we got some people online here.

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Yeah, so we've been this is our third meeting,

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and now we just want to take a little bit of opportunity

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to introduce the committee.

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Father, Dan White, which is present.

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I'm sorry, I didn't, that's okay, I apologize.

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I'm sorry, I didn't have to hear that,

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so he used to do an okay.

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It's still on.

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The psychology deal about our field, bro.

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Budget Pfizer committee, max, time administrator.

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I've got my deputy chief, Brittany Fahey.

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I've got citizens of the large Deb Douglas,

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citizen of the large Maryam Harper,

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citizen of the large Malin Smith,

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and my self-ire Chief Robert Foss.

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That's part of the committee.

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So the purpose of a little bit of a agenda

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to some discussion, the concept of what we thought about

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bringing to you early on was the purpose of the committee.

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I reviewed some of the current operations

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and the realities of what we're looking at moving forward,

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staffing and response considerations,

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equipment and resource needs,

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future planning and service delivery,

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options and public comment.

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So ideally, if you give us an opportunity

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to get through this presentation,

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then we'll open it up to public comment questions and concerns.

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But I'd like to get through everything

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before we hit that point if we can.

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And obviously, anything glaring that you need me to stop for,

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please stop for something and we can talk about it.

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We'll be through it.

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So, know where you live.

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All right.

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So, here, perfect.

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Can we make that up?

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There is a back to a point.

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And we're going to see the real lines of public.

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So, the purpose of the committee is to evaluate future

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EMS transport options, ensure sustainable high quality service,

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maintain professional relationships with current provider,

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which is German, and provide recommendations to the board of

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selecting for moving forward.

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Current operations and realities moving forward.

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Orange Fire Department, as we exist today,

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provides initial patient care.

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So we are dispatched out the door.

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We range rescue, and generally,

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Jeffrey Grinch will borrow English.

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We're our first responder.

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We are, and we'll talk a little bit about staffing levels

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here in momentarily.

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Jack German, currently provides our able

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of transport service.

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As we were seeing, we were seeing an increase in service demand, as well as an increase in

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both costs, both internally and externally.

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And that's the equal cost for our equipment, as well as the service provided by journey.

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We have a growing population, which obviously equals an increase in call-buy.

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There's some cost equity concerns between Rengen and Jeffrey.

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Jeffrey tends to run more calls, Jeffrey Grinch, more ambulance, more calls in

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Jeffrey typically than they do in range. All right, there's occasional response to

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delays due to staffing issues. Both here in town after hours, again, people are

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coming from home. We don't have staffing in the fire station, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

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Needs for a long-term sustainability, so again, what we're looking at is some options

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you're moving forward.

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What are we looking like five years from now, 10 years from now, 15 years from now?

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In transport services, can we go back to that slide for a minute?

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Figuring that there may be some people listening to us other than our direct crowd here.

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You want to go out here deeper into the costback with e-conc.

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And we can.

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right? Obviously, we both towns paid the same amount for any of those.

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What's that?

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pay a fee. The town... So, talk to me. Go ahead. Excuse me. I want to ask you to help me here.

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Okay, for those of you that when we have the article or the party donation,

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yeah. So, there's a budget line. There is a budget line. There

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was a separate warmer guard, which is

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like God has from you

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some round numbers here because a number of the middle I'm not

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asking.

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But we were at 40, 43, 45 for a fair extended period, okay.

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Then, may I keep going, okay?

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Then it went from there and extra, I want to say, 35 to 40 was put in to the button.

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And waiting for anybody to say, I believe it's only been two years, there has been a one

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article that brought these total contribution to 125 for ambulance service. Not

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specifically for Jarno, and that was one of the issues the past year. Okay, was

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I want to say misunderstanding but I'm not sure that everybody was on the exact same

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page. 125 was meant because of the word article passive. To cover ambulance

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and services, knowing a lion's share would go for a jargon, but then it was also supposed

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to pay if we had to use grape.

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I believe all of that is accurate, but if somebody else has a different set of facts and

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figures on that, if it's not accurate, it's pretty darn close.

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Is there a contract?

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Then we're in another place.

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in December, it is right, because we were waiting, it went to our attorney, and then

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because we had some questions, we wanted to make sure our attorney cleared it before we paid on that.

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So it went to the attorney, we got approval from the attorney, it went to back to their board,

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and there was a delay a little bit there, and then we signed the contract.

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Yes, that's correct. And that was the full calendar year, which is important to note.

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Concurrent with all the calendar year. Right, yes. So, the reason that I was trying to get to that

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clarifying question is, this is your one. Okay, so when we're talking about being on a

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contract, we do that has been in effect for 190 days. Right.

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Is it on your contract?

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Now, it's just 50-50. Yes.

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Yes. And has anybody reviewed

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So Britain does a lot of tracking on our call.

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Our requests on our calls on our...

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They're then coming mutually with us.

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I don't remember. This is CPA talking.

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But that's okay.

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That's okay.

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Chief deliverance position on the journal board.

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So that stuff...

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I would assume if we request it, they would provide it.

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The other aspect of that is, and I'm saying this is the ICPA, okay.

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If we're entering into this, then we see this as a potential medium to long-term answer.

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Every one of the key players should have the same information and same awareness, okay,

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and make sure that all the doors are open so that everyone, yeah, nobody's going in blind,

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Okay, I will say the one thing that when we talk about this being the one year and we talk about the difference with the equity concerns.

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My biggest issue through all of this is I want us looking through the windshield, not the rear-view mirror.

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I can't, you already say too many times, I can't fit yesterday.

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Whatever is taken place over the past 10, 15 years with this about whatever the balance

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has been is relevant if we're sitting around having fun.

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It shouldn't be relevant as we look to what are we going to put on paper, what are we going

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to be responsible for and to because we want to be a good partner in this but to be a good

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partner you also have to have the best information.

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And are they viable?

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We would be able to handle them.

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What's that?

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the reason why we exist in this position is looking at that sustainability

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and looking at the future for you as the citizens of this town are getting for transport services.

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For me coming into this, my fear was because this was right in the middle of this, right?

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That we didn't have an angel of transport service when I arrived in branch.

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Right. Not what a fire chief wants to come into a town knowing that we don't have transport for you guys to get to the hospital, right?

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And the reason for that was staffing, mainly staffing.

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No, that actually came out the issues that the started last year with them not being able to meet the expectations of the contract and providing a transport service to the townwitch, efficiently and effectively.

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They delivered a letter because it's essentially not a mail, paid, or we don't know what we're going to serve.

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And I didn't see that if it wasn't misunderstanding, even if they thought that they were going to get the whole pot of money.

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But again, I think that would do to a lack of a capacity capability for them to provide service to you.

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So I know that when I drive by there, there are days.

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So what does that mean and are we paying? I would assume that great work has some sort of arrangement with dark

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Yeah, they're contracted with drama to provide additional

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EMS capabilities for transportation. So that's something they're working out

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And I don't have the number in front of me, but if they're from the mean last night

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They had 623 great work had 623 billable hours

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April a lot for April a lot.

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Great birthday.

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That's hard.

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it is the police department.

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But you know what I mean?

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So it's a little different.

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It is a little different because it's a separate energy.

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It's not a town sanctuary or a funding agency.

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But we don't know that on a short term, right?

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And again, I think that's what steers this where we're at today.

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It's because we don't know that.

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My fear is I get a phone call at 6 o'clock tomorrow morning

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is where I search, right? And then what do I do? Right? So I think we need to get ahead of that and start

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planning for tomorrow, because again, Stan says I can't fix yesterday, right? We need to look at what tomorrow

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Looks like moving forward looks like

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No, no, you're good. I appreciate that. The best part of doing this and the best part of being on here, okay, which we talked about in one of our meetings is more people are going to see it, more people are going to hear it, before they read it on message boards, okay, and there'll be something to go back to what they actually said. But what we're trying to do is make sure this has sunlight, okay, and there's always going to be a story, right, but I would rather control that story from the get go if we can, and that's what I'm saying.

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and I'm doing it in front of the public.

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And we build out that planning.

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We're going to continue with German.

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We're at today to be considered alternative providers.

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possibly administering in-house key MS service.

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So just a little bit.

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And this is an excerpt from an email that I supplied.

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I sent to Adam.

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I'm Max and seeing this letter.

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This is what I sent on to there when I made the announcement

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that we were creating a committee.

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I want to be very clear that this process is part

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of a long-term planning and due diligence.

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and it is not reflection of any dissatisfaction

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with the services currently being provided.

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In fact, communication with German and their staff

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has been great in my time here.

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We value the relationship we have built with their organization

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and recognize the critical role that German plays

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in supporting the health and safety of our community.

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Ren's remains fully committed to continuing

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or strong working relationship with German.

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We look forward to maintaining open communication,

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ongoing collaboration, and mutual support

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as we move forward. Their partnership is important to us and we appreciate the

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professionalism and dedication their team consistently demonstrates. So we are

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working well. The communications well for the most part we're running calls

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with them things are going well right. We have a working relationship and it's

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So I talked a little bit about staffing earlier. There

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There are three recognized roles in the state of New Hampshire for AMS providers.

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The EMT, which is we consider like a basic level, the AMT is a little bit more advanced

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Range is staff as an EMT, AMT level.

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We do not have any paramedics through our organization.

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We may have British Husking, for example, as a paramedic, but he is not functioning as a

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We don't carry the supplies to run at the paramedic level, but there's a lot of medications that have extra requirements for them, and it's just, it's not, that's good enough for us to run that way.

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And licensure and other components to that behind that process, right?

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So, the way we currently stand today is we are staffed to the AMT level for transport services.

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There needs to be a combination to personnel at a minimum of any of that combination between

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the EMTA and EMT environment for any transport unit.

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Is that a state?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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All right, we've got someone to be brought up in conversation or alternative providers or potential for providers.

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Right, there are several other services in the area that you provide transport services.

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It's William, Peter Burrow.

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So he can valley and eat and winch him.

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But there is a problem with winch him and bring me to speak on that one way better than me.

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It's a licensure component since they're an out-of-state entity.

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You also got a chest for EMS.

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Okay. Okay. Yes. Sorry. Again, my apologies for that. Oh, but yes. Yeah. Again. So there are other options available, right?

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Which is what we went with in one for all. Okay. So I'm

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sorry, which one?

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I'm sorry, which one?

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We were with do

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we developed an ambulance service to pick up all the towns that we're seeing,

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but if they're far, you know, I just want to say I was extremely impressed.

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but service

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only not cost that's where I go and when when we just real quick and then

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I'll let you know when when we were at that

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was treasure EMS and breast you won out of

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the rest of you what right that's the way out of the phone out of the month and the food

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for us to make is the price right they're like this is what it's going to cost and we would have to

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at all the towns, and everybody was like, oh my gosh, the cost. And Cheshiree MS was able to come

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in at first undercut everybody because they used their ARPA money. And so, from a cost perspective

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at that point in time, it was cheaper to go with Cheshiree MS. And now what we're finding is now that

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they're running their ARPA money slowly going away, rescuing had the right price from the get-go.

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You know, so the cost of these services, and I'm sure you also saw the mutual aid budget. That probably skyrocketed.

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It did.

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It did.

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Yeah.

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They're finding that, you know, a lot of these suburgency services, they're great at providing emergency services as far as accounting and bookkeeping.

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That's so good.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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So anyway.

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Yeah.

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If you do decide you want to talk with us, you can get in there.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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What are the issues of a good person to get on with that?

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Yeah, you're right.

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So, listen, you were earlier.

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We're going to see if she earns this first.

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Okay.

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Can we go backwards from all of the place?

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Can we go?

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Nope.

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So, yeah, that's green.

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This green you have.

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Sure.

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Let's go bottom.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, we have license or license your issues.

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You know, the engine.

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Yep.

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And the only reason is because these were the things that we talked about.

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And I want to make sure that we get a few more of the facts out with it.

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sure there's not only licensure but there is crossing the state line so okay which

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brings its own little bundle of jewel. Sure as the case might be. Now are they close?

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I mean I love, if I was in Malibur, no in Malibur, not quite as well as you

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met at least someone. Boy which actually put theirs is perfect. Okay that's

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It's a pretty fair distance from Peterborough.

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We already know that right now it's a thousand dollars every time we will see the graph.

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That was part of the Bruhau last year about what amount needed to come out of the 40,000

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that was added in the warrant article.

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So he can now lay in Billions.

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They're nearest point to us right now.

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Do they have a bar in the new whip switch any longer?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Can you stand in high school?

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No.

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Can you stand that short baby?

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No.

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Okay.

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I may, who do they service besides the witness?

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Is it a bunch of towns?

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It's not a bunch of green.

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It's a little bit of a green bill.

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I think, couple.

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I was going to say, Temple maybe Mason.

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It worked over there for over a few years.

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Yeah.

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Uh, P.B.

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We are, yeah.

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And then Sharon too.

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P.B.

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We are, yeah.

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Okay.

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We're on the same page, that's a scary thing.

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This is a big discussion that we had a lot of time and what I was thinking and I'm happy

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to at least start the templates.

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I would like us to create a spreadsheet that lists all the providers including jargon.

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How many ambulances they have?

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where they're located, models to the intersection of one, 19 and two or two estimated time if you're driving like a bad, how to get there.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Like we get the numbers down and the other times they provide.

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So you can get an idea of like in one place of all this data that we need to sort through.

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Yeah.

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You can have all start the spreadsheet.

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I know Brittany can probably fill it out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't mind making it and getting a data for it.

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And there was one other aspect that we talked about in some depth.

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And that is, there's only so many people

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certified to do this.

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And every Paul is going to rock from every Peter

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to try and have enough people to do this.

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And I think we're all well aware that there

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were less people going into intense public service positions

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then there were even five years ago, a little on Tanner Fisbee.

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And the question is, you know, let's say that we were talking

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if it's willing.

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Does Fisbee really have enough people to cover, to add us?

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Right, okay.

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I feel that little preference here, okay?

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You know, so, when we look at who the other service is on,

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I agree with you about the equipment.

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But to me, the most important bit of equipment is personnel.

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Yeah, well that should be on the spreadsheet too.

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So sustainability is huge, right?

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And I can tell you for us right now,

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I have two lieutenants who are career or soon-to-be career

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firefighters and other jurisdictions that are moving up, right?

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So just to stay in the building on our level

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to maintain a service, right?

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Again, paid on call is great,

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but it doesn't pay the bills, right?

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And when a lot of us, a little bit older, started this, one single parent in a family was working.

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That's not an option. And we all know that, right?

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So both parents are working. It takes away from that capacity capability for that call member

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because he or she has that full-time job, right? And you're going to go where the business is.

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You're going to go where the funding is, right? To provide for your family, right?

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The other question I've got is, and I don't know this, but what is the relationship with

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the hospital that you're transporting to? You have some sort of MOU or something with

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the NAP, not? Yep, they are a medical resource hospital. Okay, so, you know, like if it's William,

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with they go to chem? Okay so is that a problem? It could be. So right now if we

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have a call and we use the supplies that may not know for restart we can get

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them from Jeffrey Maybellance and then they can get the results in the hospital

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because we share the same medical resource hospital. I don't know why I see. If

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their ambulance was coming from somewhere that used chem, depending on what

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but their medical director decided the rules were,

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they may or may not be able to give us supplies

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because we're not part of their system.

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And would they also,

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would there also be an agreement

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to transport fringe people to keen?

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If it's just saying you went with a Fitzwilliam or a Tessure E.

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And that's our sum response unit that goes to keen,

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is that a problem for wrench?

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No, it shouldn't be.

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It shouldn't be, but they would default to going that way.

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So unless you spoke up and said no, I want to go to the

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connect-off, they would generally go to their hospital.

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We transport the paperwork.

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We transport the paperwork.

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It's pretty much people just in front of the connect-off

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treasure and paperwork.

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It's just that you're tied to the connect-off with the supply.

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Yes.

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And that's where our medical director is at, right?

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So who kind of this year is our capacity

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capability to function in the field, is that it's right?

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So there may be difference in practices

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if you would, right, between menadlock and trust.

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And what about self-heagant, is that menadlock as well?

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They didn't transport just menadlock.

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They, yes, they are menadlock is their menadlock as well.

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Yeah, yeah, that's the speed, bro. I

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mean good. Well, I don't think it's how many so we're at about 25

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They're certified as EMTs. It's right. We're working on that again, so I'm a few that are fire only

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I've got some more that are EM S only and I got some dual certifies

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That's an important question. It is right

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Because again the license during the certification process for that is is pretty time

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And we have a program in town with the department that we will pay for you to go to class, right?

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But we get a contract and we get some time out of you after I pay for you to go to class.

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So, and then we'll also pay after we get through the program six months.

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We will pay for half of the time you spend in class and after a year we will pay for you for the remainder of the time.

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So again, it kind of benefits you to stick around for a year because I'm going to pay you for your button C for that time in class.

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Access? All right. Yes. I agree. It seems like it's scary, right? It is providing our own services. But again, something we have to think about moving forward. Right? We would need a minimum of two ambulance.

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This is a wide, wide chief. I don't even want two animals.

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Well, when this one breaks down, I have an antifreeze leak.

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I need another ambulance to put it in its place.

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So it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm going to put two animals on the street at a given time.

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But I need something to back up this one if something happens.

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Because in a car accident, what 19-202, I need something to have in its place.

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Routine maintenance.

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Yes, routine maintenance, right?

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equipment. Again, you know, looking at, it's not just buying an ambulance, a box

447
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and wheels on it, right? It's the equipment on the stretchers, the AED, this, all

448
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the other components to it to keep that in place. When you run an ambulance,

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there's a state list of supplies that are required to be on the ambulance. So you

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can't be, your ambulance will be licensed if you don't have all of the things the state

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requires on variables, and a prime expected annually.

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Punishment.

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Yep.

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I hate to scare everyone.

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I actually have to discuss this previously.

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Gee.

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We're going to be just going to talk about one thing

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I'm going to do.

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We'll all multiply afterwards.

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From the time you begin the RFP, till the time

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that unit shows up is going to be one amount of time right now.

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And the whole clock figure.

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So, I'll get to that, but we're looking at 18 to 24 months, easily, 18 to 24 months.

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And I'll get into numbers here about footing bodies and seats, just the staff and anyone's

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here in the military.

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I'm really glad you brought out the 18 to 24 months for those folks who are particularly

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out there going, oh, you can just do this, you know, when Mike's tried to go get a truck,

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you know, or the fire department looking for a truck, minimum is 12 to 18 months.

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And there's only so many companies making them, and they have a list out both of their arms for it.

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I know how hard it is to do deliveries in my particular industry right now, so somebody tells me 18 is 24.

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I don't think it's 24 to 30.

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I was going to say three years.

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And the numbers has drastically increased.

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For their cost of this stuff, COVID really put a stranglehold on much of the market.

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on app radis, on equipment, on supplies, on resources that we have not recovered from.

476
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And we probably will never recover from it.

477
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Save payment please.

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100%.

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Yep.

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And then the bigger, even bigger is that building an admin component, right?

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Most resources will outsource that filling component.

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And if people think this is going to be a money making in a cash cow, you bunch your head,

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right?

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Right, most of these services make enough money to sustain at best, right, if they even make

485
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,380
enough sustain their process, right?

486
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Because you don't have to pay, right?

487
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:28,140
You know, we're not going to execute you in the town common because you didn't pay for transports of the hospital.

488
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,980
I'm not paying that bill and you don't pay.

489
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,660
They'll go after you, they'll try, but you can say no, right?

490
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:37,540
And we don't take that into consideration.

491
00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:40,560
On top of that, look at your other

492
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,900
billionities for older people and stuff like that.

493
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:48,240
You're getting pennies on the dollar for these services, right?

494
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,980
I'm about if, say that I'm having a diet bag up

495
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,540
so when you come in and you give me a, you know,

496
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:56,830
and I say, I'm not going to hospital.

497
00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:58,530
Do you build me for that?

498
00:33:58,970 --> 00:33:59,110
No.

499
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:59,690
Right.

500
00:34:00,570 --> 00:34:00,770
Right.

501
00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:02,130
Build me space on my house.

502
00:34:03,070 --> 00:34:06,590
So you all show up at my house because you don't have any,

503
00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:07,610
I think it's really happening.

504
00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:08,050
Right.

505
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:16,150
So you've got the apparatus, you've got the com, and there are also taking that time away from other people who may also have an emergency.

506
00:34:17,170 --> 00:34:18,430
And there's no revenue from that.

507
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:20,370
And it happens all the time.

508
00:34:20,530 --> 00:34:21,430
So I heard a story today.

509
00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:25,210
Helicopter picks up a patient on the top of Mount Mananaque.

510
00:34:25,610 --> 00:34:29,550
Brings them down to street level to put them in the MS unit.

511
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:31,970
Patients are like, I'm not going to hospital.

512
00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:33,210
What do you mean?

513
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:34,790
and we just took, yeah, I'm a pain.

514
00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:37,390
So refuse to pay the helicopter service,

515
00:34:37,630 --> 00:34:39,570
which is not a cheap, pretty penny there,

516
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:42,930
and then you'll go to the hospital, right?

517
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:45,710
So they're alone, you can make that decision.

518
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:47,290
I can't force you to go to the hospital,

519
00:34:48,430 --> 00:34:52,870
unless you are not able to make a rational decision

520
00:34:52,870 --> 00:34:55,130
on your healthcare, right?

521
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:56,930
Then we can get the police involved

522
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:58,070
and that's a whole lot of people on it.

523
00:34:58,090 --> 00:35:00,210
But again, that creates another issue, right?

524
00:35:01,790 --> 00:35:06,370
For your list, we could find out for many since you were just talking about the truth.

525
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:08,710
You can't get people to pay.

526
00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:14,290
It would be very interesting to know what percentage of the calls as they go on people

527
00:35:14,290 --> 00:35:16,830
reject going to the bottom.

528
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:19,470
But also, how much of it is bad debt this month?

529
00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:23,590
Because as you said, when people are looking at and seeing how much money is going to commit.

530
00:35:24,810 --> 00:35:28,850
And I'm going to say, let's say that because the last time I think we kicked it around

531
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:34,650
And I'm going to count on YouTube, because I think it was just before you joined us.

532
00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:39,970
I thought when the town was talking about it, we were thinking it was costing, we're

533
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:47,550
in somewhere, 2,25, 240, max, your timing is perfect, and I feel like you're asking

534
00:35:47,550 --> 00:35:49,150
a high proposal.

535
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:58,830
Well, last year when we were talking about the balance of things, and part of it was

536
00:35:58,830 --> 00:36:04,950
it was how many calls are being done in January for the amount that they donate and how much was being done in range?

537
00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:14,310
225, 242, 250 somewhere and there's that, but it was thought that the cost per call was...

538
00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:23,130
I can't remember that. I remember that the differential in call volume was basically like a 60, 40 or so.

539
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:27,370
You know, it's like $39.80, and those $200.40.

540
00:36:27,610 --> 00:36:30,330
It varied some, but it was $60.40.

541
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:32,770
It seemed like a very fair figure to work with.

542
00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:34,250
Okay.

543
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:37,810
And you're saying this cost for calls like $2.40, $2.60.

544
00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:38,490
Oh!

545
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:40,850
And a client's bag, I'm not.

546
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:41,950
What if...

547
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:43,110
What if...

548
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:44,130
Was the averaging worth...

549
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:46,210
What if...

550
00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:46,730
What if...

551
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:47,570
What if...

552
00:36:47,570 --> 00:36:48,470
What if...

553
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:48,770
What if...

554
00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:49,130
What if...

555
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:49,390
What if...

556
00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:52,130
What if...

557
00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:59,310
like program other companies as well. Well, sure, okay, and that's something we can get

558
00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:03,850
for that, but I think without that part of the picture is the way we actually are

559
00:37:03,850 --> 00:37:11,610
right now. Yes, we've made that donation. We break it out over the calls. Like I say,

560
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:16,470
I could be wrong. That's how we got that little work on

561
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,000
it. Because when it would,

562
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,160
So, someone's, you know, they are, I will say that genre is being much more transparent

563
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:30,540
about the amount of calls per time.

564
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960
I mean, I'm seeing it even on Facebook and things like that, you know, okay?

565
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:35,660
That's good.

566
00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:39,400
I'm glad that that's out there, particularly as we're to this point in the discussion.

567
00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:43,260
And I think the 60-40 is a fair way to look at that.

568
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:57,760
If we are at the 60-40 and for the 40%, it's like is it 2.25, 2.50, 2.60, whatever that amount may be, when you break down across the call.

569
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:07,420
If that's considered bad hits, 45% of the time, then really those calls are almost twice as much.

570
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:15,380
Because, you know, what is the actual amount for the ones that they're getting something

571
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:15,940
back from?

572
00:38:16,220 --> 00:38:21,240
Knowing that Medicaid, as you say, pays pennies on the dollar to the real cost, sure.

573
00:38:21,620 --> 00:38:25,660
And of course, the private shares are only a couple of pennies more than that, by the way.

574
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:33,780
And, you know, one of the things we did talk about quite a bit was, I remember somebody said

575
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:40,060
can't fix yesterday, I'll try to remember who that was. Where was the VFW influence? Okay,

576
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,660
and they put out a letter, they got a fair almost enough money back to do it,

577
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:51,540
and then people made contributions at all. You'll also, when connoiters had the Obit go out,

578
00:38:51,860 --> 00:39:00,240
that it was either flowers or in little flowers contribute to the VFW. Okay, and that was great

579
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:08,200
in 1975 and it was great 1995 and maybe 2005 but that's not the kind of thing

580
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,840
we see or hear being coming off a lot and if you try and build that as one of

581
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:18,040
the pillars you don't have a real strong foundation right so I would really

582
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,040
like it if we could get that from our partner that we're working with right

583
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,640
now and if we can find that out for some of the others as we do the spreadsheet

584
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,180
Yeah, I think it would help to look and see what they consider their cost per call

585
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,160
like that to be true. Okay, come back to that last one.

586
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040
No, we're saying the real cost, not just our contribution.

587
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Correct, but yeah, is the intent of the spreadsheet to basically just list out all the options?

588
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:46,420
Yeah, and try all the data in one case because we keep rehashing it.

589
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,420
I say, okay, and it's the data that almost everybody wants to see to be able to have a meaningful

590
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:56,660
discussion of the issue at hand, you can't have it without it.

591
00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:02,820
At some point, we'll have a room with a lot more people than this, no matter what direction

592
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:03,700
this all goes in.

593
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,180
Yes.

594
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:09,660
And we have best asked something that we can point out, to be able to say, we did the research

595
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:14,260
that we could, here it is from at least two or three entities, hopefully more.

596
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,420
I only asked because if that was where we were listening to options, if

597
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,980
we think that

598
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:26,960
at Jaffrey was eventually going to take this

599
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:31,860
opportunity.

600
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Then how would we account, maybe the likelihood that we proposed, just actually, so John has

601
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,960
gone in this scenario, and how we just jointly administer these together with Jaffrey.

602
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,380
And I think there's going to be more of a likelihood than people think for an outside of that.

603
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,720
Yes, people's going to have to stand as proud of.

604
00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:58,220
If we have all the data, then we could list maybe the

605
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,540
things that people

606
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:09,280
would want to know about that particular service. Like, Jeffrey's currently

607
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,900
staff by grade work, 50% of the time. So, Jeffrey fire got the fund to get

608
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,920
town meet and they are currently adding on to their fire station to add that

609
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,950
capacity to keep it going. Ambulance. Two. Don't know a number yet. They're adding on.

610
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:28,310
They're running on base.

611
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:29,850
They're running on base.

612
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:35,050
But again, that's pre-finity.

613
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:38,990
That's looking down the road to the future.

614
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:44,470
Because question is if, not now when.

615
00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:50,690
Infrastructure needs.

616
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:52,670
We talked about that in a minute or two angels.

617
00:41:53,350 --> 00:41:55,950
Proper storage facility temperature control.

618
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:57,950
Obviously, I can't be named in the MS unit.

619
00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:00,910
We have the medication of the drug sign outside.

620
00:42:00,910 --> 00:42:06,810
right, the possible station expansion of a new bill, equipment and staff and investment.

621
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:09,530
How's that?

622
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:11,310
That's going to go over like 11 years.

623
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:12,650
That's why I want to make that case.

624
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:15,410
Again, but long again.

625
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:16,470
Yeah.

626
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:18,090
Again, that conversation, right?

627
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:20,990
If there apparently came up a number of years ago where there was a...

628
00:42:21,490 --> 00:42:23,630
There was a number of years and a number of policies.

629
00:42:24,070 --> 00:42:24,270
Yeah.

630
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:27,050
To build another public safety complex.

631
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:30,630
Fine.

632
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:31,030
Yes.

633
00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:32,310
Yeah.

634
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,520
I'll get in.

635
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,020
Recorded and locked.

636
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,000
You've sent to office.

637
00:42:42,610 --> 00:42:43,190
Yeah, sure.

638
00:42:44,030 --> 00:42:45,850
But there are instructions right now.

639
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:47,730
No, it's going to give you information.

640
00:42:47,950 --> 00:42:48,390
It is.

641
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:49,530
And most of you,

642
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:54,220
where it's come up.

643
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Absolutely.

644
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,260
And it's going to come up today, obviously.

645
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,280
And it's going to come up next year.

646
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,660
It's going to come up a year after.

647
00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:03,500
And until, you know, something's going to change.

648
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:03,720
Right?

649
00:43:03,820 --> 00:43:06,180
The infrastructure, commercial and residential,

650
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:08,320
is growing drastically in the talent range.

651
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:08,860
Is that?

652
00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:10,480
And I can tell you what there is.

653
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,420
Another subdivision.

654
00:43:11,420 --> 00:43:15,480
or a development getting ready to go in, which increases the number of bodies.

655
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,440
Yeah, that's another number we need to track. Right?

656
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:21,420
New lovelies approved for instruction.

657
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,000
But again, we accepted and all that stuff.

658
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,060
The infrastructure in town, our core infrastructure needs to grow to be able to support.

659
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:37,120
And we no longer have impact phases, that correct?

660
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Right, that's correct.

661
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:41,840
That used to be able to contribute to some of that stuff.

662
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,740
somewhere that fell on the way side.

663
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,800
They voted it down in 2017 or shotgun.

664
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:00,520
2017 was voted down?

665
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:00,860
Yes.

666
00:44:01,220 --> 00:44:02,020
It took three years.

667
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,740
Oh, it was on three times.

668
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:06,200
It took five other voted down.

669
00:44:06,220 --> 00:44:08,060
Well, I don't know if it was on three times,

670
00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:09,860
but it was in the planning stage.

671
00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:13,510
It was finally declared a tax.

672
00:44:13,930 --> 00:44:15,050
And that's why it was voted down.

673
00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:18,790
So looking forward to being one of the two most popular people.

674
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:20,630
I'll ask an unpopular question.

675
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:27,070
I'll make you number one, thank you bro, what's the chief option out of all this?

676
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:35,490
There isn't, yeah, okay, there really isn't, there is no, there are options to potentially

677
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:38,410
control some of the costs.

678
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:46,470
What there is not is a lesser cost than we're currently at, and there is not an inexpensive

679
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:47,250
option.

680
00:44:48,190 --> 00:44:50,450
And I close the rest only to get big.

681
00:44:50,990 --> 00:44:55,290
Well, speaking of that, sir, I'll let you move on.

682
00:44:55,630 --> 00:44:57,850
It's too bad the town didn't buy the purse.

683
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,720
All right. So I'm going to start talking a little bit about staffing. If we were to go that route for a single

684
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:12,700
angels operating 24 hours a day, seven days a week, the minimum staffing depends on the following. Number of personnel

685
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:25,760
required for ambulance, the shift schedule, vacation and sick coverage, training administrative time, and overtime talks. Chief, is with that

686
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:34,360
That B-A-24-7 person in the facility ready to go on a call?

687
00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:35,700
Yes, ma'am.

688
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:36,320
For those.

689
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,100
Yes, so again a minimum of two, right?

690
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,860
So the basic formula, right?

691
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,960
The 24-7 position requires approximately 168 hours per week, right?

692
00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:56,060
So, 40 hours per week per employee, which is the, which equates to about 4.2 full-time

693
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:56,820
equivalents.

694
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:57,540
Okay?

695
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,180
So, one staffed ambulance, one staffed seat on the ambulance, is about 4.2 FTEs, and

696
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:05,340
I'll get a little bit into this.

697
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:11,320
Two staffed seats, again a driver and attended, is about 8.4, so that's basic map, and we'll

698
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,300
get into this a little bit more.

699
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,140
Which you need in order to transport.

700
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:15,900
100%.

701
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:21,340
Yeah, I need a driver and somebody to be in the back physically taking care of you as my patient, right?

702
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:25,540
The driver also has to be a medical provider.

703
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Right, so they soften the side of the road because now it's an individual cardiac arrest.

704
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:34,360
It's just not the due that we picked up the Walmart, hey you won't drive an ambulance tonight, right?

705
00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:36,960
We have to have somebody certified training qualified.

706
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,320
You're shared, right?

707
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:47,120
So again, a little bit more on that, build out usually need more than theoretical minimal

708
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:53,560
because of vacation, injury leave, sick time, training time, mandatory certifications,

709
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,720
court appearances, and burnout reduction.

710
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:08,800
So, that number turns out to be between 10 and 12 providers to reliably staff 1A once

711
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,440
24 hours a day, so that may be easier.

712
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,340
Right?

713
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,300
You don't want to go.

714
00:47:14,540 --> 00:47:21,200
This assumes two-person proof, again, minimal overtime reliance and sustainable operations.

715
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,840
So, 10 to 12 persons to staff one ambulance.

716
00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:28,800
How many full-time providers this genre currently have?

717
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,180
You know?

718
00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:30,820
None.

719
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:32,080
None?

720
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,220
None.

721
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,080
They're not full-time.

722
00:47:34,820 --> 00:47:35,880
Everybody's on a party.

723
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,740
So, they do staff their station, but nobody is a full-time employee.

724
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:46,640
They have 2 DM bills from 8 a to 8 p, 7 days a week.

725
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:56,180
So what is the preference for DM, they just don't have the money for full time, or

726
00:47:56,180 --> 00:47:58,120
people explain why they went that route?

727
00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:07,060
They're basically contractor.

728
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,540
Yep.

729
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:16,740
So if you're going to a full-time roof, then you have to look at all of the other benefits that come up with the full-time roof.

730
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,260
What happens between 8 p.m. and 8 a.m.?

731
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:23,460
Safety is rent fire department.

732
00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:24,280
B.B.B.B.

733
00:48:24,580 --> 00:48:26,940
Ambulance and engine or ambulance and rescue.

734
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:35,240
Yeah, and they responded in from from home. And you said last time that the majority of calls come between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m.

735
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,280
Generally, generally, yeah, yeah, that that was news to me

736
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:45,920
But it makes sense because half that time people are sleeping or it's the true, right? Yeah

737
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,740
All

738
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:56,620
right, some financial considerations start up costs vehicles equipment staffing. I was you building

739
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:04,200
would be a big one. I'm going operational expenses, salaries and insurance. So with

740
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,980
that being said, some potential funding options would be warrant articles like

741
00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:12,800
you guys brought up, a regional cost sharing, grants donations, and then you

742
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,960
brought up a term that was new to media that I'm drawn up like another means of

743
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:19,520
of funding.

744
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:20,920
Um.

745
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:23,700
Yeah.

746
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:24,920
Sorry.

747
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,360
It's okay.

748
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:32,000
No, no.

749
00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:32,480
Okay.

750
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,800
I'll try and think back to the conversation.

751
00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:37,840
You guys brought up and it.

752
00:49:38,580 --> 00:49:39,520
It's slapsing me.

753
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,260
I couldn't think of that.

754
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,240
That's why I didn't put it on the slide.

755
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,220
I didn't think of that term.

756
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,740
But I never heard of it.

757
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:44,180
Probably.

758
00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:48,520
Well, there was a time when Jorama had a big like pledge campaign.

759
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:48,940
Sure.

760
00:49:48,940 --> 00:49:54,520
So you just didn't get a donation, but you pledged to give that same amount for five years in a row.

761
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,040
That was pretty successful.

762
00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:01,160
Was that more sort of purchase in ambulance though?

763
00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:05,360
Or whatever?

764
00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:07,680
I don't remember.

765
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:12,560
So those are good, but they're not sustainable, right?

766
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,520
That happens at the end of five years.

767
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,500
I hate to base salaries on a pledge.

768
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:18,400
Please turn it over.

769
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,960
You know what I mean?

770
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,080
It's just another source of it.

771
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:22,280
Yeah.

772
00:50:22,580 --> 00:50:23,200
No, no, definitely.

773
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:23,980
Yeah.

774
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,420
But wouldn't that only work if it's a nonprofit?

775
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:31,100
It wasn't an nonprofit.

776
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:31,960
I know.

777
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,660
But it wouldn't be a nonprofit.

778
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:36,760
Right?

779
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,920
If it's a Towning Section function.

780
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,020
It wouldn't be a nonprofit.

781
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,540
Could it be a emergency?

782
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:44,380
It's a high- one seat.

783
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,440
It's just going to say 501-C3 for the size.

784
00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:06,800
So the initial target by the border selection was to have a response by July.

785
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:16,400
Let's have a conversation in reality, hopefully November for a full report from this process.

786
00:51:16,980 --> 00:51:22,880
hopefully, right? And that's also causatively optimistic, right? I'm going in a public engagement

787
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,200
plan again, I would like to do multiple easy as we proceed forward, so we're looking at that.

788
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:33,800
So what are we done so far, right? We began the regional outreach across the

789
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Parisians, where we begin and you collect our call data and response trends, reviewing

790
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,840
staffing and certification levels and identifying system strengths in the gaps.

791
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,360
Key findings, again,

792
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:51,320
EMS systems are costly and complex.

793
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,420
A germa is currently our most cost effective option.

794
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,700
Again, we talked about it earlier,

795
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,240
the disparate portion they call buying in Jeffrey,

796
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,860
and an increasing demand will impact future services.

797
00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:09,360
Our guiding priorities.

798
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:12,680
All right, coverage, reliable response times,

799
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:15,060
control, location decision making,

800
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:17,100
cost is responsible,

801
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,040
a responsible use of taxpayer funds,

802
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,820
and then quality we want to provide the highest level of care.

803
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,840
What's next?

804
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,240
Continue collecting of that data for analysis.

805
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,020
We're in an engagement of our regional partners,

806
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:36,440
and development of the detailed cost comparisons,

807
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:38,780
and then preparing that final recommendation.

808
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:42,440
So here's the two big questions.

809
00:52:43,820 --> 00:52:47,060
What are the determining factor or factors for you as a community

810
00:52:47,060 --> 00:52:49,860
to find what the threshold for failure is?

811
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,040
And how do you as a community determine that your needs are not being met?

812
00:52:56,420 --> 00:53:02,480
Again, that's something that I think is important for where we stand and where we move forward, right?

813
00:53:03,140 --> 00:53:05,640
What does that value your look like in the service and the system?

814
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,800
So in my mind, this would work very similarly to a water fund or a sewer fund.

815
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,060
It would be its own little and

816
00:53:19,450 --> 00:53:24,770
so what we do for those types of systems is we we do what's called a level of

817
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:33,560
where you all would sit down and say to yourselves, you know, what what does the community expect?

818
00:53:34,060 --> 00:53:39,760
You know, do you expect, you know, to a certain response time?

819
00:53:39,980 --> 00:53:42,360
You know, what are the criteria?

820
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,240
What are

821
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:51,230
the criteria that the people in

822
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:55,380
the service?

823
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,400
The response time is huge, right?

824
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,060
In wrench, right?

825
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,140
Again, three o'clock in the morning tonight.

826
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,400
Tomorrow morning we get this fast for that call.

827
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,300
People are coming in from home.

828
00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:09,400
Typically, we're getting on scene pretty.

829
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,400
Generally before the other resources.

830
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:14,280
Yes, yes.

831
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:14,720
Generally.

832
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:15,920
Okay.

833
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:19,020
How long are you willing to wait?

834
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:24,340
for the ambulance to show up. Is 25 minutes a reasonable time to wait for a

835
00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:28,600
transport unit? Is 35 minutes a reasonable time to wait for a transport unit?

836
00:54:28,620 --> 00:54:33,940
That sounds like a survey, and me. 100 percent, right? Because again, the reality is

837
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:37,260
25 or 30 minutes isn't that a question.

838
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:42,750
Because you have your own people on site,

839
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,100
but

840
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:50,800
they're, but not and not said, say there's any demand, which is an EMT or

841
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,240
advanced EMT, but there's just that level of

842
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:00,360
change.

843
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,040
That's not guaranteed.

844
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:01,540
Right.

845
00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:06,500
So I think that that, as if you

846
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,940
was able to go in in like a,

847
00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:14,980
for example, Cheshire EMS has a employed purpose.

848
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:15,140
Of course.

849
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:16,000
It takes both.

850
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:16,420
Yeah.

851
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,080
And they just bash that person out, and they can get there,

852
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:24,660
and they can manage stabilization,

853
00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:29,780
which is done, you know, while the ambulance is coming.

854
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:30,220
Yeah.

855
00:55:30,220 --> 00:55:30,800
That

856
00:55:32,810 --> 00:55:36,750
would be something that would be an option for...

857
00:55:36,750 --> 00:55:36,890
Sure.

858
00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:38,710
And then something to look at, right?

859
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:40,670
So, we call them chase cars, right?

860
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:41,750
Generally, a Paramedic.

861
00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:43,570
When I came from Montgomery County.

862
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:45,110
So, I don't want to speak for this.

863
00:55:45,210 --> 00:55:45,350
Right?

864
00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:46,750
Yeah.

865
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:47,070
Right?

866
00:55:47,610 --> 00:55:50,330
So, there are different terms, same, very similar concept, right?

867
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:57,270
You have a paramedic provider in a vehicle that comes out of an entity and is able to meet

868
00:55:57,270 --> 00:56:04,410
you want scene to provide higher care for the patient on scene until they transport

869
00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:06,530
component to get there, right?

870
00:56:07,930 --> 00:56:08,030
Yes.

871
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,840
So, hypothetically, eight o'clock, let me give it a visit.

872
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,840
What's the response time to having people there getting to?

873
00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:24,180
We do not.

874
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,940
I don't want them in front of me, but I have the ability to get it.

875
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:27,260
Yeah.

876
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,480
I think it would be important to.

877
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,000
And I think that varies drastically.

878
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:39,080
to keep in mind right? I can't guarantee or I don't think anybody can guarantee you 20 minutes

879
00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:44,180
seven days a week, you know, AP the 8L, right?

880
00:56:44,260 --> 00:56:45,220
Maybe I'll stop them and I'm going to wear this.

881
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:50,680
Yeah. So it's going to be my next question. So like response times here are not going to be

882
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,380
equivalent to what they are going to be going for. Sure, I'm looking for that.

883
00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:58,920
Right. But you know, when we're talking, you know, 20, 25 minutes or even,

884
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,220
you know, if someone lives

885
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:08,540
on Wellington Road, they have to get out of bed, drive to the same place, and that's right.

886
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,900
Yeah, not what I think about it.

887
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:16,780
So, but even in child providers for us to get from our house to the scene, it's easily

888
00:57:16,780 --> 00:57:18,220
15 minutes, most of the time.

889
00:57:19,580 --> 00:57:20,640
You can't get anywhere.

890
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:21,160
That's right.

891
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:21,920
I dream about it.

892
00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:22,300
Yeah.

893
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,100
That's why he transported me.

894
00:57:24,460 --> 00:57:29,120
Yeah, but what I think, and you guys have been around for a minute and kind of know the system

895
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,780
and the way it works, but for people who aren't aware of that,

896
00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:34,780
and the people who move here from Boston, right?

897
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:36,980
Because it's nicer, it's quieter, it's a smaller

898
00:57:36,980 --> 00:57:41,980
better mentality for people who come from bigger cities,

899
00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:43,560
they're expecting less than 10 minutes

900
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,820
to have an ambulance at the front of it.

901
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,940
But that's the other job here.

902
00:57:47,980 --> 00:57:51,640
But my point was, do you have numbers on how long it takes

903
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,080
that people to the station to pick up the ambulance

904
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,500
and get to a patient?

905
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,220
We can get that.

906
00:57:58,220 --> 00:57:59,240
That's important information.

907
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Yes.

908
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,100
I don't give you a baseline of what it might be here, if we're realizing that Jeffrey

909
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:10,810
Winch has to come from Jeffrey to here and where they will have done it right.

910
00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:19,370
Do they have that rule where those who work for the ambulance have to live within a certain

911
00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:22,360
distance now?

912
00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:29,880
So you can have somebody who lives out in wherever, on a call.

913
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,480
Yeah. Yeah. Everybody

914
00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:40,660
decided they're gonna put another herbal like that. No, I can't. I can't prohibit me

915
00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:33,190
for seven coverage, but I don't know what

916
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:01,740
As

917
01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:09,640
far as I know, they haven't been completely out of service since they started working with

918
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,960
breakbook around Thanksgiving.

919
01:00:14,060 --> 01:00:16,620
Prior to that, they were on service pretty regularly.

920
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:18,580
But they remain with breakbook.

921
01:00:31,730 --> 01:00:32,770
When breakbook covers-

922
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:42,060
Sure, there was something that had come.

923
01:00:44,830 --> 01:00:50,310
I'm really not looking to kick over on its nest, but I can feel my foot and I know where the nest is.

924
01:00:50,530 --> 01:00:55,670
I said there's no cheap option. Sure. There's no specifically inexpensive option.

925
01:00:56,250 --> 01:01:00,110
And I'm going to keep saying we can't pitch yesterday, but I want to go a little bit faster.

926
01:01:01,790 --> 01:01:03,990
We talked about it being 40,000 and going to 8.

927
01:01:08,730 --> 01:01:09,970
That discussion's about

928
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:14,330
projecting.

929
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:20,900
Yes.

930
01:01:23,970 --> 01:01:27,090
Yeah, I was going to say, you remember two 11 rings of building,

931
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
yeah, with the intent and

932
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,660
that might be the 24 hour coverage for a truck.

933
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:46,680
But again, we have to get more finite, but that number is, again, just there alone is increasing

934
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:46,980
right?

935
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,220
Thousand more.

936
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,540
Asking others to troll

937
01:03:05,770 --> 01:03:06,390
these costs.

938
01:03:08,860 --> 01:03:11,260
There are so many outside factors that are involved.

939
01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:14,340
But,

940
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:27,160
they can jump at me when you went to the FTE.

941
01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:34,360
I want to make sure that I have this clear of my mind, because I know I'll get asked

942
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:44,920
for it too.

943
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,800
It's a fair minimum.

944
01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:48,040
Okay, so if you have to truck, you wouldn't

945
01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:51,470
want me to do that.

946
01:03:51,470 --> 01:03:53,070
Can you say a team? Then?

947
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,500
Yeah, you could.

948
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,960
You know what I'm trying to overreach.

949
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,560
Yeah. You currently have how many people purify.

950
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,920
Not whether or not they're all certified for that.

951
01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:13,170
So, anybody paying them an hour?

952
01:04:13,830 --> 01:04:17,560
So, that's about 17.

953
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,240
17 is the lowest.

954
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,920
17 is the lowest, and what are we about 24?

955
01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:37,940
When we talk about, you know, how all of that's going

956
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:41,060
like, you would need more body parts.

957
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,600
And not two more bodies.

958
01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:46,900
No, we don't think that we have now.

959
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:47,820
Do you all have to

960
01:04:53,330 --> 01:04:54,110
do that?

961
01:04:54,430 --> 01:04:55,470
So, since it's on the topic.

962
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:31,600
To entertain the idea of pulling out the body,

963
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:37,920
plans that were paid for by the taxpayers and putting them out on the table and

964
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:44,180
having the current chiefs take a look at it and and pair it down to what you

965
01:05:44,180 --> 01:05:50,100
need not the Taj Mahal, which it wasn't to begin with, which it wasn't to begin

966
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:51,980
with, but that name sounds familiar

967
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,000
to you.

968
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,620
So, if

969
01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:31,240
absolutely not, then take in-house ends right out of auction table.

970
01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:33,300
I think if people on

971
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:37,460
the be more than contract

972
01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:42,790
pans down, Peterborough just bought a brand

973
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:49,700
of ambulance for upwards of $400, $400,000 and he just bought two for over $600.

974
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,620
Well, but our basic premise is our best option is draw.

975
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:55,680
Right.

976
01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:56,300
Okay.

977
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:57,700
We don't want to put them on our business.

978
01:06:58,300 --> 01:06:58,660
We do not.

979
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:02,240
The fact that they have underfunded themselves,

980
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,340
they're going to have to do something about that,

981
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,660
their business model.

982
01:07:05,980 --> 01:07:12,580
But I think it's good to look at all the options

983
01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:16,880
so that people can make an informed and educated.

984
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,060
Yeah, I mean, so I still think we should keep

985
01:07:21,060 --> 01:07:24,240
the, you know, have our own service on us

986
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,440
so that people really know what that cost would be.

987
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,240
They say, we're on the way up there in Jefferidge, $200,000.

988
01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:34,840
Well, because they have a lot more anywhere else, probably.

989
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:36,940
You know, so...

990
01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:43,900
What would happen if Jeffrey did wind up taking on the ambulance?

991
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:45,420
What would happen to Randy?

992
01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:46,960
We did absolutely.

993
01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:50,020
I'm almost certain they'd be going to entertain

994
01:07:52,220 --> 01:07:52,560
him.

995
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:53,660
Who would make sense for that?

996
01:07:53,780 --> 01:07:54,220
Who would make it?

997
01:07:54,220 --> 01:07:55,020
Who would make it?

998
01:07:55,020 --> 01:07:57,320
Who would make too much sense possible here?

999
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:06,220
Sure. Now, thank you both of you for something that you said that I was really hoping to hear tonight and I want to repeat for those of you out there.

1000
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:09,520
Yeah, I know that I'm watching over there.

1001
01:08:12,790 --> 01:08:15,150
Nobody in the room at least as far as I can tell me.

1002
01:08:19,050 --> 01:08:21,710
Healthy genre helps a healthy bridge.

1003
01:08:21,710 --> 01:08:23,670
Yeah. Okay. And

1004
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:34,340
you know, before you got here, I've been waiting for an MOU, I've always wanted to be there to both sides

1005
01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:39,520
to be realistic for both sides.

1006
01:08:40,460 --> 01:08:50,260
And I think it's pretty obvious that the rates that have been paid may not have been realistic for both sides.

1007
01:08:50,260 --> 01:08:51,220
Sure.

1008
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,920
Do we need to look at the 60-40?

1009
01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:53,620
Absolutely.

1010
01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:54,440
Yeah.

1011
01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:54,900
Okay.

1012
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:01,980
But, I think that even just with what we talked about here, as you said, I'm just simple.

1013
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,520
Okay.

1014
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,880
And pardon that is also not just what they get from the town, whether it's a payment, a generation,

1015
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,580
whatever the case might be.

1016
01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:17,150
That's why I'm hooked on what's in bad debt.

1017
01:09:17,950 --> 01:09:18,290
Okay.

1018
01:09:18,290 --> 01:09:26,590
that never ever comes back because that immediately goes and beats at the bottom line and you know

1019
01:09:26,590 --> 01:09:32,770
the part that you put up I have a friend in the medical profession who has said that the

1020
01:09:32,770 --> 01:09:40,510
thing that causes them to not want to be in the profession is how much time their staff and they

1021
01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:48,110
have to spend dealing with insurance. It's just because of the way the system is. It's not

1022
01:09:48,110 --> 01:09:54,310
the good old days where Ross and Lisa were over there, okay? Yeah, I'm going back a little

1023
01:09:54,310 --> 01:10:03,970
too far. They would cap you with the archipelago. We're ready. Do you do it to me? It was a different

1024
01:10:03,970 --> 01:10:11,830
world then. The world we live in. If you don't have an effective system for doing that bill and then

1025
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:13,670
done in what you can't have to.

1026
01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:21,250
If you're not getting 30-35-40% of what you're

1027
01:10:21,250 --> 01:10:25,190
building, you have to make up. And

1028
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,020
as you're talking about the spreadsheet with all

1029
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:38,220
the data, which sounds the best idea, but I think it should be specific for

1030
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:45,020
range, ranges data, the number of people that have used the service, whether it's over

1031
01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:55,380
a few years, the amount of, uncollectable for range calls, refusals.

1032
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:57,580
And we have time.

1033
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,600
I think refusals is a huge piece.

1034
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,360
Not just here, but I think it's a huge piece.

1035
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,220
But I think any of the data that you put together,

1036
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,880
you need to do specific arrangement

1037
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,240
in hopes of having better people have the better understanding.

1038
01:11:17,260 --> 01:11:21,020
The other thing that's really important to understand in that

1039
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:25,140
is that this is not just a Dharma problem.

1040
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:30,080
You know, a lot of the emergency services in Joshua County,

1041
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,700
like we've been seeing with the ambulance,

1042
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:38,800
and mutual aid, like I said before, but they're just finding that what they have been charging

1043
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,540
the municipalities just isn't an app that hasn't been enough for a very long time, so there's

1044
01:11:44,540 --> 01:11:51,580
a giant adjustment going on. And so it's not just this particular ambulance services. You know,

1045
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,420
it affects a lot of these services. Ever since COVID, everything's gone through the room.

1046
01:11:56,420 --> 01:12:00,840
And, of course, gas is really expensive now, to the point.

1047
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,600
And diesel on top of that, right?

1048
01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:05,760
So, again, that's another thing we'll get for you.

1049
01:12:05,780 --> 01:12:07,020
But the ambulance is from our diesel?

1050
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,880
Well, most of them were gas, but there are diesel ones out there, right?

1051
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,680
So, against your things like that to consider it.

1052
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:15,860
I mean, all costs are...

1053
01:12:15,860 --> 01:12:18,600
Yeah, it's financial and they're only getting higher right now, right?

1054
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:18,860
Yeah.

1055
01:12:18,860 --> 01:12:29,480
So when I heard 80,000 and 40,000 to cover a community of over 6,000 people, I mean I

1056
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:34,220
can see why they got in trouble sustaining the service.

1057
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,120
How do you give them a check rate?

1058
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:38,660
Less.

1059
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:46,460
I must say for quite a thought, it was about 65, 57 or something like that the last time.

1060
01:12:46,460 --> 01:12:49,120
Are we counting the school or aren't we counting the college?

1061
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:49,880
Do we know?

1062
01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:51,020
Exactly.

1063
01:12:52,420 --> 01:12:54,140
That's all we've been in question now.

1064
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:55,520
It comes up as I say.

1065
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:57,480
Are we counting it?

1066
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:58,440
Oh, and it's salt.

1067
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,140
But that number, that has a geography graphically.

1068
01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:04,580
They're not like 850 students now.

1069
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:08,980
And there are things like geography has a nursing home.

1070
01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:11,320
And they're building a lot of housing.

1071
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,380
And we're going to get geography.

1072
01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:21,580
But there is one thing regarding the screen that you have out there dessert the second question

1073
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:31,760
Could we could we either add a second part to it or make a third question, we're saying how do we determine your needs are not being met?

1074
01:13:33,020 --> 01:13:35,980
How do we determine your needs are being met? Sure, you know

1075
01:13:35,980 --> 01:13:37,740
I think I'm gonna be in a survey, right?

1076
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,840
I'm gonna do a survey about what people expect.

1077
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,060
And what they experienced, what did they experience?

1078
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:46,860
Two, I think, right?

1079
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:47,320
Yeah.

1080
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,780
I mean, that's a, it's hard to wait.

1081
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,420
I mean, I'm sure that a lot of you know I know,

1082
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:54,980
it's hard to wait.

1083
01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:56,840
Is it acceptable?

1084
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:59,580
It's gonna be different for different people, I suppose.

1085
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,520
Well, Julie said a few minutes ago

1086
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,940
while I had my two heart attacks. She took me to the hospital.

1087
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,560
And I don't think she took me to the hospital.

1088
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,740
Yeah, I've been in this situation where I called my husband

1089
01:14:11,740 --> 01:14:13,960
to the hospital. And then when he went to the hospital after

1090
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,200
I was the helicopter. The helicopter. Why didn't you get a pre-authorization?

1091
01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:22,900
Yeah. That was a conversation that I just was in

1092
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:25,200
Christal's. You needed pre-authorized a helicopter.

1093
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:28,400
Please tell me the way that was at Bucharest,

1094
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:35,120
She'll in New Hampshire authorize the helicopter and then just to add on to it the helicopter starting done me

1095
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,660
Well, she's still any I see you for payment

1096
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:46,020
70 days in the I see you and they're done. Maybe for payment for the helicopter play. Yeah

1097
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:51,300
I'm for a done. He just came up twice in what meaning you you know that

1098
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:58,180
You're well spoken for to this year's

1099
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:58,920
How?

1100
01:14:59,300 --> 01:14:59,880
More?

1101
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:13,550
I know the police department just did a survey and not too long ago. What did they get for percentage of residents responding? You know? We got about 70 around about 70 less than 80 people responded.

1102
01:15:16,110 --> 01:15:29,750
How did people respond? But they go online, fill out the survey? Oh yeah, there was paper that was given in many places. They had online distributed on Facebook and other means. Maybe you've been on our website here for a while.

1103
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:34,950
I think they even did like QR codes you can scan their posts somewhere too.

1104
01:15:35,390 --> 01:15:37,450
I wonder how they would get a higher number.

1105
01:15:37,610 --> 01:15:38,850
Where do you know my reader here?

1106
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:41,450
You were done with your reader.

1107
01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:43,190
You were the assistant plot writer for a while.

1108
01:15:43,410 --> 01:15:43,910
14 years.

1109
01:15:44,050 --> 01:15:47,870
Is it something that could be done at

1110
01:15:50,750 --> 01:15:51,290
the power?

1111
01:15:52,690 --> 01:15:56,450
It's only that that's what A political title sign of.

1112
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:03,060
Could you have a table asking people?

1113
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:08,700
What would you bet her? She did it outside like they do for the after voter surveys, you know, people

1114
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:13,540
say how to vote for them, but that would be totally okay.

1115
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,300
Yeah. Yeah.

1116
01:16:19,850 --> 01:16:22,830
One of the ones who are the

1117
01:16:29,390 --> 01:16:30,210
70 people.

1118
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:41,490
Well, I mean, we have been more than one way to meet up with people, but that's a good idea.

1119
01:16:47,330 --> 01:16:52,490
Yeah. So our commitment, as a committee to use the community, right, we're going to

1120
01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:56,430
transparent process. Again, that's part of that this evening. Right, data

1121
01:16:56,430 --> 01:17:01,830
driven decision making, maintaining current service during evaluation, and focus

1122
01:17:01,830 --> 01:17:03,230
on the long-term sustainable.

1123
01:17:12,050 --> 01:17:14,230
Not by yourself, but it's horrific.

1124
01:17:17,620 --> 01:17:22,420
So it's so much easier to guide and to stay up.

1125
01:17:26,830 --> 01:17:28,330
Even though it was forced.

1126
01:17:32,140 --> 01:17:35,100
It's very successful and then shows. Wow.

1127
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:38,760
We did multi-lingual tonight.

1128
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,320
Are we going to try to continue to meet every other week?

1129
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:50,160
Yes, ideally, right? Yeah, well that's something comes up, sure. And are we kind of like settled on Tuesdays at 5.30?

1130
01:17:51,380 --> 01:17:58,940
I will do it anytime, let's work for you. I work for you all, you tell me when you want to meet and I will be here.

1131
01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:04,560
How much time do you have? That's right, just go on here, don't still invite me.

1132
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:07,760
I have to say this,

1133
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:13,200
I know this about this meeting.

1134
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:16,920
So, I don't know if I've just been missing them.

1135
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:19,040
So, I also need to...

1136
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,780
No, so this is the first public meeting.

1137
01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:22,360
So, I made a big mistake.

1138
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,340
I put out the first one.

1139
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,600
The same night as the police department's meeting.

1140
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,600
And I apologize.

1141
01:18:29,220 --> 01:18:30,320
That was my fault.

1142
01:18:30,940 --> 01:18:35,280
I know on that one, Rachel and I, we just miscommunicated on that one.

1143
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,300
And I wasn't going to compete with another organization in this town for attendance.

1144
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:45,800
right so we made the decision to step back to the postowner cancel that meeting

1145
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:50,780
and to make it tonight. So this is our first public one. When we first met I

1146
01:18:50,780 --> 01:18:54,780
wanted to get the kind of the group together kind of elacent groundwork so when

1147
01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:59,560
I came to you I had this to present you right. You didn't want to see the

1148
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,120
first couple of meetings because it was you know just you know just just trying to

1149
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,980
get to try to get off the ground and see where we're looking at you know day

1150
01:19:07,980 --> 01:19:12,320
day one, day two, and moving forward. Where did you see the post? I could see it on

1151
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:20,160
life and range. Yeah. I didn't see that it was going to be zoomed. Yeah. Yeah. The

1152
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,700
link was there. Yeah. Yeah. At least in what I was looking at. Yeah. The flyer, I think

1153
01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:28,800
that wasn't there. Yeah. So I created the flyer. We put it on the the fire department

1154
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,680
Facebook page.

1155
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:40,380
It's okay. I will now. Yeah. So, and Victoria help me out.

1156
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,420
We have a message.

1157
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:50,400
A very well-known increasing people that way. When I called message you about the conflict

1158
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:57,380
last week, you had it immediately changed. Yeah. And thank you very much. Again, we have to work

1159
01:19:57,380 --> 01:20:02,920
together. We're all buying for different things in the town, but it's all the same concept, right?

1160
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,100
And this is actually a wonderful fly, isn't it? Not only that, but at least many

1161
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:20,020
concerts are working together. 100% right? So can we go back one page? Do I actually put that?

1162
01:20:21,340 --> 01:20:26,660
Yes, so unlike we just do things, I, you know, of course, I wanted to have a meeting like this,

1163
01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:31,520
you know, okay. And I think it's important not just for our friends out there, but our friends here.

1164
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:41,260
But some of it is brickwork. Maybe if we do, you know, committee work, the next meeting is an open

1165
01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:48,500
meeting like this. I agree. You get to redundant every time people stop coming. And then as we get closer

1166
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:52,360
to making full presentation to the board and whatever like that.

1167
01:20:52,580 --> 01:20:53,560
That might be different.

1168
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,980
Okay, but if we do a little change up there, we'll still let people know what's going on.

1169
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:00,000
Okay.

1170
01:21:00,380 --> 01:21:01,520
We can start.

1171
01:21:01,580 --> 01:21:03,120
I don't want to do a PowerPoint every week.

1172
01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:04,480
I don't really want you guys a lot.

1173
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:11,220
You can help edit the PowerPoint and like we can get that spreadsheet up there.

1174
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,300
That answers a lot of questions out of the gate.

1175
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:21,140
And we rehashed Humman's speedover or have humminous at every single meeting like you were

1176
01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:21,500
considered.

1177
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:22,100
Sure.

1178
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,360
So if it doesn't say public meeting, then you guys are working.

1179
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:28,180
You'll be working?

1180
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:29,160
It'll be working.

1181
01:21:29,620 --> 01:21:29,920
Okay.

1182
01:21:31,380 --> 01:21:32,300
We'll still let me look.

1183
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:35,820
And I will say, and you know, I've been very happy with what we've gotten.

1184
01:21:36,180 --> 01:21:36,280
Yeah.

1185
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:36,540
Okay.

1186
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:43,020
I'm going to hope that we go back and we bullet point some of the things, okay,

1187
01:21:43,020 --> 01:21:55,740
that we could put out there. Yes, some people are going to watch. Some are only going to hear what else is going on, and my other favorite part of control, control the message.

1188
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,460
I'd like to at least get 5 or 10 points out there that we talked about tonight.

1189
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,220
because God bless our holy doesn't even live here anymore and no people know

1190
01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:13,180
what's going on in town because of all the work she has. I'd love for her to

1191
01:22:13,180 --> 01:22:18,080
have something she gets from our our crew here with the fire and the flames we

1192
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:23,100
thought were worth it. So somebody else doesn't have to go picking through it and

1193
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:27,720
we're not trying to chair a bit we're not trying to shake but let's talk I mean

1194
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:34,080
I mean, we went a little bit far a few, but I think we also, again, know what is looking

1195
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,380
to eliminate drama.

1196
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:36,720
Okay?

1197
01:22:37,620 --> 01:22:43,160
I want to get that one more time before we close, because first thing I hear, oh, you're

1198
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:43,400
on that.

1199
01:22:43,740 --> 01:22:47,940
So, you guys try to get rid of the annual service, and I'm like, yeah, why am I just way

1200
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:48,560
to sure it's saying?

1201
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:49,560
Okay?

1202
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:57,940
So you want, you want to have something on social media that would be like a

1203
01:22:57,940 --> 01:23:02,240
bullet point thing that would say number one, genre is still our best option.

1204
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:02,520
Sure.

1205
01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:08,980
Number two, in the event of needing other

1206
01:23:08,980 --> 01:23:15,260
hand-own service, we are looking at that amongst others we are looking at ABC.

1207
01:23:16,060 --> 01:23:22,260
There's a plus and minus to going that route because you can just get a whole bunch of people

1208
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:28,200
that power on that post and say, if it's not done then, it'll just happen at the next

1209
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:28,380
meeting.

1210
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:28,820
Right.

1211
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:34,040
And that gives them the ability to grow their grumbling.

1212
01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:35,260
Right.

1213
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,820
And you need the outcome.

1214
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:37,680
Yeah.

1215
01:23:38,060 --> 01:23:38,580
And listen.

1216
01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:39,100
Yeah.

1217
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:47,440
Now, I think more of it, I think it's more going to frustrate your tape and cause this content, right?

1218
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:50,560
What is going to be the response to social media if that is none?

1219
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:56,100
Well, you know what? No matter what we do, you're always going to have a nice letter, right?

1220
01:23:56,580 --> 01:24:01,040
You're always going to have those supporters, and then you're always going to have that group to kind of sit in the middle.

1221
01:24:01,540 --> 01:24:07,080
And I think the people in the middle is who this is ideally the ones that we want to capture.

1222
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:13,860
And I think we could, we, as that I, we can do that by providing more information and

1223
01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:14,280
education.

1224
01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:21,180
And I'm willing to own the fact that I think the biggest problems we face today is lack

1225
01:24:21,180 --> 01:24:22,440
of information and education.

1226
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,520
If we can control that medium, then I think we have a means of moving forward.

1227
01:24:27,980 --> 01:24:31,520
Well, but nothing says you have to have open comments on that.

1228
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,500
Yeah, you can just present that data and sort of comments.

1229
01:24:36,740 --> 01:24:39,320
Well, yes, that's what I'm asking you.

1230
01:24:39,740 --> 01:24:40,800
I think that's a good one.

1231
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,100
I see where you go at the moment.

1232
01:24:42,580 --> 01:24:50,500
But I've seen a difference in the community with the use of social media.

1233
01:24:50,860 --> 01:24:51,000
True.

1234
01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:53,660
Holly's page, like in range.

1235
01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:57,320
That's the naysayers, okay?

1236
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:03,960
things that are posted on there just go sometimes into the toilet. What you've

1237
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:10,480
been doing on your Facebook page has been excellent. I think the same thing for

1238
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:16,520
the police department. I think the same thing for the town of Ringe, although I

1239
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:23,120
would like to see a little bit more on the town of Ringe. If you have to, you can

1240
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:34,040
post. You can shut off the commentary, but I encourage you to follow. Yes, you encourage

1241
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:43,140
people to follow your page for those information. And you know, that's the way you can come

1242
01:25:43,140 --> 01:25:50,400
across with a survey through the official fire department page. And that can be shared on other

1243
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,700
a little bit more of ownership of it.

1244
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:57,540
Yeah, silly ones, we need to have a fire department.

1245
01:25:58,140 --> 01:25:59,920
We need to have an ambulance service.

1246
01:26:00,140 --> 01:26:01,220
We need to have a police department.

1247
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:07,040
Those are all things that the citizens we expect to be part of what we're paying for every

1248
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:07,360
year.

1249
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,800
The fire department is critical.

1250
01:26:10,860 --> 01:26:12,240
So it's an ambulance service.

1251
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:16,040
So it's the police department and the DPW and everybody else.

1252
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:22,220
and we can't nicklundine those services the way we are right now, the opinion is no new taxes.

1253
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:28,340
Period. I've seen three selectments say that over the course of time, no new taxes.

1254
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:38,980
Okay, I'm going to may I continue? No. Our town has operated in the past with

1255
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:42,740
secrecy.

1256
01:26:42,740 --> 01:26:48,220
I mean, this tonight being projected on here was wonderful.

1257
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:51,000
That's where we should be at.

1258
01:26:51,780 --> 01:26:56,040
But for the town having tried to get this, it was crazy.

1259
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,180
And the same thing with live streaming.

1260
01:27:01,340 --> 01:27:04,980
That was a ridiculous fight and venture.

1261
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:07,800
This is all part of transparency.

1262
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,820
People could be seated sitting at home tonight watching this.

1263
01:27:12,740 --> 01:27:16,860
So they can hear everybody talking because I listen to the voice like when it's meeting.

1264
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,440
Sometimes it's in the end though.

1265
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:22,840
You can pull it on slash captions if you have to.

1266
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:23,080
I can.

1267
01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:24,720
Yes, yes.

1268
01:27:24,860 --> 01:27:25,060
Again.

1269
01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:25,700
Okay.

1270
01:27:26,420 --> 01:27:32,220
The transparency, the school board, this transparency is important.

1271
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:35,820
And we see that, you know, you're talking about that here.

1272
01:27:35,820 --> 01:27:43,440
the transparency and the education for the town's people to know what's going on.

1273
01:27:43,580 --> 01:27:49,160
Well, not only transparent, but you have to make the information easily accessible.

1274
01:27:49,900 --> 01:27:53,120
So that's where the live streaming is important because if you have two little kids

1275
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,920
and you're both working jobs, you're not coming to the SPI-30.

1276
01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:59,080
My only name is come to the fire station, right?

1277
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,000
Come and ask questions, right?

1278
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:05,380
I'm all around the fire station come see what we had come see where we are

1279
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:15,460
Yes, I'm working on that right, but no seriously come visit us, right call a fire station

1280
01:28:15,980 --> 01:28:18,060
Tell us on emails, right?

1281
01:28:18,420 --> 01:28:23,100
We're on social media. I'm on social media come out and ask questions, right?

1282
01:28:24,860 --> 01:28:27,840
Again, we're trying to be as transparent as possible

1283
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:32,280
Putting this out in front of you tonight and when we are about moving forward

1284
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:38,920
We're gonna do the same thing if you want to come in and watch us talk about it and model through some of these other things before the next presentation

1285
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,700
Don't see us, right?

1286
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,860
This was great

1287
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:43,120
Yeah

1288
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,440
I think you did a wonderful job.

1289
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:45,960
Thank you

1290
01:28:46,660 --> 01:28:47,800
Don't let go of your hand though

1291
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,500
No

1292
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:50,020
No

1293
01:28:50,020 --> 01:28:52,180
This is day one, tomorrow, tomorrow, right?

1294
01:28:52,740 --> 01:28:52,860
So

1295
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:55,040
You would definitely best stand in the room

1296
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,300
You see that, Dan?

1297
01:28:56,660 --> 01:28:57,580
I'm proud of everybody

1298
01:28:58,340 --> 01:29:00,040
I'm happy to be still a medalist.

1299
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,020
I think we're going to meet again 10 to 10 weeks.

1300
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:04,580
Yeah, let me look at a calendar.

1301
01:29:04,700 --> 01:29:04,880
Okay.

1302
01:29:05,020 --> 01:29:05,640
We're around.

1303
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,100
I'm going to turn off.

1304
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,380
Yes, are we okay?