1 00:01:35,210 --> 00:01:36,910 Oh, are you ready? 2 00:02:16,410 --> 00:02:18,710 Okay, I have seven o'clock. I'd like to call in to order. 3 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:20,970 Thank you. 4 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:22,630 I would like to see the indication. 5 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:26,350 You work with staff. 6 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:33,650 I was thinking that I would think that if you're always 7 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:36,610 continue to not be so grateful for the fact 8 00:02:36,610 --> 00:02:39,930 that we live in a free nation, that we can sit down 9 00:02:40,670 --> 00:02:42,530 and be there people in the community, 10 00:02:43,490 --> 00:02:45,970 look at our meetings, and watch our wishes, 11 00:02:45,970 --> 00:02:47,930 and hopefully discuss all of this. 12 00:02:48,910 --> 00:02:50,930 In my good order, we ask you to give us wisdom, 13 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:53,790 give us judgment, and give us fairness 14 00:02:54,230 --> 00:02:55,350 that we go through this. 15 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:58,070 And we thank you again for all the pleas 16 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:59,170 that you've done our work. 17 00:02:59,630 --> 00:03:02,090 Please, please, comment on the next one. 18 00:03:02,950 --> 00:03:07,170 I'm glad that it is a goodbye from the United States of America 19 00:03:07,790 --> 00:03:10,050 and a good reminder for all of your fans, 20 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:13,630 one nation under all and invisible, 21 00:03:20,410 --> 00:03:24,610 Yes, I have a couple of changes to the agenda, please. 22 00:03:25,950 --> 00:03:36,630 I move that we move Old Business Item A. I propose method on 20 Joe Chandler. Mr. Chandler signed up to be moved to 23 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:43,010 I moved to number three, Citizens Comments and start off our discussion in Citizens Comments. 24 00:03:43,810 --> 00:03:52,830 I also moved as part of the motion as to remove Council Comments to the public just prior to the public hearings at the end of Citizens Comments. 25 00:03:54,340 --> 00:04:02,890 Okay, I have a motion to move all business item A to Citizens Comments and Council Comments to public just after Citizens Comments. 26 00:04:03,250 --> 00:04:03,670 Can I get a second? 27 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:09,210 motion and second all in favor unanimous for kind 28 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,520 of get a motion to approve the 29 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:21,620 consent agenda. So moved. Second motion and second all in favor unanimous for and 30 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,660 we will 31 00:04:26,660 --> 00:04:32,140 move the citizens comments. Mr. Chandler did fill out a form to be on that so we would 32 00:04:32,140 --> 00:04:37,580 like to start with you and then a few specific people did ask to speak and we'll go through 33 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:41,660 that list also, but Mr. Chandler, welcome to come up. 34 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,940 I'm going to introduce just so that everyone knows, everyone has five minutes on each topic 35 00:04:53,940 --> 00:04:58,300 and the people on the council, that's what's written into our charter, just so everyone 36 00:04:58,300 --> 00:05:03,840 knows. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, go ahead. Yes, name and address as you come to the podium, please. 37 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:08,480 My name is Joel Schammer. I'm 10 years old. I'm 25, 7 years old. 38 00:05:09,020 --> 00:05:11,140 I think breakfast is morning at Richardson. 39 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,620 I was looking out in the parking lot. 40 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,160 I was looking for a hotel house. 41 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,060 I noticed the ladies walking their morning walk 42 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:25,320 doing their morning job. 43 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,200 And, uh, 44 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:32,840 I'll tell you how to remind me of why I moved to Mexico 40 years ago. 45 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,260 My wife and I have been married for over one year. 46 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,380 We were living in New York. 47 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,620 And, uh, come down here, 48 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,560 once I met you straight off, I had a shot around you. 49 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,380 I was real lucky. 50 00:05:52,380 --> 00:05:53,880 So much so I went home, 51 00:05:54,500 --> 00:06:02,320 I said, I'm going to talk to some more leaders in the ring, you know, as a lawyer. 52 00:06:03,460 --> 00:06:05,220 That's the kind of big talk I'm going to do. 53 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,360 The moral comes to those who conduct tonight there's an old farmhouse, 54 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 there's an afternoon party that doesn't let you go, 55 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,500 and within here it seems the corporation fan. 56 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,840 There's a lot of disciplines. 57 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:22,880 They're talking in the morning, it's going to go loud, 58 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,740 I don't know if we can have them out, I don't know if we can stop them. 59 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:30,120 I'm going to go for this thing. 60 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,180 I've already went to Chicago here by a year ago. 61 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,280 She had never been out of rainbow. 62 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,380 She saved my weekend. 63 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,660 She got my home. 64 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:48,520 She's about 30. 65 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,400 She said that, she said, 66 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,120 But I got to find out how almost nothing I'm interested in right now. 67 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,740 That's how I feel about this thing. 68 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:08,100 And anything that would disrupt 69 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,540 or waste my life is a matter for the sun. 70 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:21,170 There's a proposed clinic to go into. 71 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:25,780 I've done a little research on it. 72 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:32,330 The biggest thing is that, you 73 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:41,630 know, I want my daughter to be able to continue to come to Ringo and move her jogging and her walking. 74 00:07:43,090 --> 00:07:44,930 Listen to her thinking, all right. 75 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:52,770 I want the middle school kids and the high school kids to be able to continue to walk to Ringo and her children. 76 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:58,930 They don't have the child's house anymore, but they do have some places that they can go and come again. 77 00:08:00,130 --> 00:08:06,950 The part of their lives that will be with them, we all know 78 00:08:10,570 --> 00:08:16,930 that things come up and there's not every battle that can be fought. 79 00:08:17,710 --> 00:08:22,190 If you thought we'd continue to go through play where you'll be aware of me, 80 00:08:26,050 --> 00:08:26,630 but sometimes 81 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:30,910 there's something that comes up that is worth fighting. 82 00:08:33,270 --> 00:08:34,610 We like or what it's like here. 83 00:08:35,850 --> 00:08:41,870 We don't want something to cause a major disruption to that life. 84 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,820 The council has done so many good things since the party. 85 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:51,300 I mean, it's just... 86 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:05,560 And I've got a petition here on some folks that signed it down, my store, saying basically 87 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:10,980 that they're not in favor for this thing to be worth saying. 88 00:09:12,460 --> 00:09:17,700 I understand these people need some help, but there's already three clinics where they 89 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:25,340 mile to this part of the whole side. They're open every day, seven days a week. They're 90 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:26,380 not turning the people away. 91 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:36,000 This will be located within 3,500 yards through the three 92 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,260 mile. 93 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:44,560 Church, right down the road, okay? There you go. A lot of stuff right across 94 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,610 It's not needed and it's on. 95 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:55,820 Thank you. 96 00:10:01,010 --> 00:10:02,610 The list that I have, 97 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,660 the list that I have, if it's okay with everyone I'm just going to go straight down from the top to the bottom. 98 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:17,740 If someone would like to wait I don't mind allowing that but we have Sheila. 99 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,600 I just like to say first and foremost, I know there's people that are legit and don't really need help. 100 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:42,320 I also know that there's doctors that over-prescribe the reason these people are on pain medication and what not. 101 00:10:42,740 --> 00:10:47,320 So I want everyone here to know I'm not hoping to put people by the treatment. 102 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,320 What I am opposed to is that I live in Contusa County. 103 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:59,660 Bringo, if I've done my calculation drive, is about five to nine police officers short. 104 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:06,840 I understand Sheriff Siss has said that he would come in and help if needed. 105 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:15,780 If I call 9-1-1 from my home, I want to know that police are on their way, that the county is on their way. 106 00:11:15,780 --> 00:11:19,440 I pay county taxes, so therefore I want to be protected. 107 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,700 I don't think that it's necessary that we shouldn't even have to depend on the county 108 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,320 to kind of help if the situation arises. 109 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,680 If the methadone planning is right, there won't be a problem. 110 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:37,260 I had a problem with 28 parking spaces. 111 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,420 Once the work gets out that there's a new clinic in town, 112 00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:46,360 You know, they may want to come and try this clinic out. 113 00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:47,580 Where are they going to park? 114 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,160 You know, it's private property, 115 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:51,420 that'll sweep water plant. 116 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:55,980 Across the street, it's residential homes, 117 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,240 they're private driveways. 118 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,960 You have a bus that stops within 36 feet 119 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,760 of their front door at 629 AM. 120 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:06,460 They start dispensing at 6 o'clock. 121 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,520 I'm just worried for the safety on the highway. 122 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:16,620 I'm worried about the safety of the whole county, but yet again, I'm going to throw out there. 123 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,040 I'm not opposed to treatment. I'm not opposed. 124 00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:25,500 We do have four in 25 mile radius. Why do we need more? 125 00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:32,200 I mean, do we have that many people in Walker and Patucia County that needs that treatment? 126 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,940 These people are coming from Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama. 127 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:43,260 So they're going to get off down at truck city to come in this way, so they bypass the city. 128 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Nine out of ten probably will. 129 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:50,600 We already know the construction down first time in the creek, how bad it is. 130 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,580 So I'm just looking out for one, public safety. 131 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,100 And for two, I'm looking out for the tax dollars that I pay. 132 00:12:58,460 --> 00:13:01,280 I won't be able to utilize the 5-cow-9-1-1, 133 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,660 that I don't have to wait for an officer to come from this end of the county to my home. 134 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:15,320 So that is something to consider that this affects not only your 4,000 residents in Bringo, Georgia that are citizens of the city, 135 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,520 but also the ones of us that live outside the city. 136 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:22,480 So that will be five minutes, that's what I wanted to say. 137 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Thank you. 138 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Shirley Boe. 139 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:39,520 I live at age seven, Cherokee Lake Drive in Wrinkle. 140 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:43,970 I drive past this clinic several times a day. 141 00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:49,670 But instead of me spending my five minutes telling you why I personally don't want this 142 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:54,290 dispensary located here, I'm going to share some facts with you, facts that I have spent 143 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:59,970 the last two and a half weeks compiling, facts that I feel are much more compelling 144 00:13:59,970 --> 00:14:01,870 than my emotionally charged feelings. 145 00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:11,270 I have right here in front of me the CAS phenomenon calls for the last four years 146 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:17,330 for an address, one single address, 4083 Cloud Spring Road. 147 00:14:18,210 --> 00:14:23,870 That is the location of our closest OB achievement facility off the Cloud Spring Road crossroads. 148 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:33,420 Now this site does not include any number one calls that came from any businesses located around that. 149 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,360 It is strictly the location of the claim. And there are a hundred and twenty eight of them. 150 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:46,120 10% of them took place in the hours of 12.30 to 5.00 a.m. prior to the clinic opening. 151 00:14:47,140 --> 00:14:51,620 58% of those calls were during dispensing hours, 5.00 a.m. to 10.00 a.m. 152 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:58,200 32% of those calls were after the dispensing hours, 10.00 a.m. to 9.30 p.m. 153 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,960 40 percent 154 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 19% of those calls were for burglary alarm going off in that building, hours right before 155 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,820 dispensing occurs. According to the police, it was individuals who lined up as early as 156 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:17,720 1 a.m. to start their treatment, and they start pulling in by number of doors. 19% of 157 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,080 those calls were for EMS-related emergencies where patients overdosed or couldn't stay 158 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,000 away half their treatment, still located in the facility or happened to pass out in 159 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:28,500 parking lot. 160 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:35,300 The remainder of those calls cover everything from auto accidents, in the parking lot, 161 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,220 fist fights between patients, passing counterfeit money to get their treatment, 162 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:50,580 assault, theft by taking, as well as several bolos involving vehicles that were wanted 163 00:15:50,580 --> 00:15:53,620 for a hit and run of a child that happened the day before, 164 00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:59,200 and the selling of the pills they had just obtained inside for the military. 165 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,660 Is it any wonder why those of us who live in and around this new proposal patient are worried? 166 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,980 First impressions are everything, and for many of us, our first impressions of this type of facility 167 00:16:12,980 --> 00:16:17,760 are what we've seen and we've heard with regards to the other facilities in our area, 168 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:20,540 not in other cities, but right here in our area. 169 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:28,120 There are four dispensaries all ready within a 20-mile radius of this proposed location. 170 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,040 I had the opportunity to meet with a local professional who's in this industry. 171 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:41,400 He stated that the facility on Cloud's front-throwing has more patients than the city of our involved has registered voters. 172 00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:45,120 And 95% of the patients come from outside. 173 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,200 set. So why is there a need for a fit? Is it so that we can take care of patients that 174 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 dumpers out in our area and live in other states? 175 00:16:56,460 --> 00:16:58,560 There are almost 2400 students that 176 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,260 will be attending school less than one mile from this proposed facility's location. Not 177 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:08,200 to mention the students catching bus 39 that pick up directly across the street within 178 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,320 the feet of the parking lot at 629, which is during distancing hours, and may have 179 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,240 pleasure to be able to see some of these incidents that I've just tried happening right at the road. 180 00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:29,140 My last client is the petition I wish to submit on behalf of 878 individuals who do not agree 181 00:17:29,140 --> 00:17:34,620 with the location of this clinic. I have a copy of their signatures and their comments that I'm 182 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:35,560 presenting to you. 183 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,420 I do not feel this clinic is needed in this area. It's going to place 184 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:46,340 undue stress on an already limited fire and police department not to mention a 185 00:17:46,340 --> 00:17:50,180 traffic issue it will create given a limited number of parking spaces 186 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:56,440 belonging to the facility. Cars will be everywhere as I recently witnessed when I 187 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,180 went and observed another facility located on Rossville Park. With planned good parking, 188 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:06,820 the majority of the cars were still illegally parked as well as parked in 189 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:10,140 and all the so-called, or kind of finding interesting, 190 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,860 vacant buildings around this place. 191 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:18,190 In the past few weeks, I've learned more about this topic 192 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:19,550 than I ever imagined I would, 193 00:18:20,030 --> 00:18:22,570 but I believe that when you feel strongly about something, 194 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:24,210 you step up and you fight for it. 195 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:26,450 I appreciate your time this evening, 196 00:18:26,570 --> 00:18:27,590 and I hope that each of you 197 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:29,830 are doing all that you can do to investigate this matter 198 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:32,190 and keep this clinic from opening in the location. 199 00:18:33,290 --> 00:18:33,850 And thank you. 200 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:34,630 Thank you. 201 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:35,170 Thank you. 202 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:37,030 Thank you. 203 00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:45,400 Okay, come on here. 204 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,840 And when I sort of control it, we'll talk a little bit more 205 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,520 about the personal impact on patients. 206 00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:25,280 That's what I mean. 207 00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:29,080 I mean, there's kind of a presentation that centers around how 208 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,940 we're going to provide for the care of these specific individual patients 209 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:35,640 as well as how we're going to better control the impact 210 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,840 on the people of practice. 211 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:43,520 I guess we have the genealogy of opioid abuse 212 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,220 in the treatment. 213 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,700 I'm just hearing from the bag that they're heading out of here. 214 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,720 You're so tall. 215 00:19:54,980 --> 00:19:55,480 You're so tall. 216 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,600 All right, yeah. 217 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,520 Hey, so I'm going to talk a little bit about this. 218 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:04,780 And just say, I'm working on it. 219 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Because I'm not very fortunate. 220 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:08,280 I'm more certified in a couple of specialties, 221 00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:10,160 not so much a standard medicine practice 222 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,360 than I've grown in 20 years. 223 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:13,840 And I also went and did that a couple of years ago. 224 00:20:13,940 --> 00:20:15,740 And I was trained and became more certified 225 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:17,540 in addiction medicine, specifically 226 00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:19,920 the rest of the time, because we're discussing 227 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 about one of the main topics, obviously, 228 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,440 of medication medicine, so I'm going to be able to hear what it is. 229 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,820 And preparation for making that exam a couple of years ago, 230 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:33,660 I read a chapter in our main text, which is, 231 00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:35,660 it's about train physician medicine physicians, 232 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:37,980 and they've talked a couple of times about that, 233 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,560 some of the genealogists, so we go back and forth 234 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:46,680 about individual efficacy versus operation-based 235 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,720 medication medicine doctors. 236 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,660 And this one particular chapter where we start to make 237 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:57,660 There's a ton of reason for it, and it still lets you meet the importance of meditation and assisted treatment. 238 00:20:58,060 --> 00:21:02,200 Others really didn't represent what they'd like to say in their community perspective. 239 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:17,180 If I go get a population that doesn't have availability of a well-run and professionally motivated meditation-assisted treatment program, 240 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:20,820 where that population is at risk of several things, 241 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,920 that the operation has access to that, 242 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:25,180 not the other one. 243 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:27,780 And the whole thing, they're kind of like returns, 244 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:29,980 but there's things that you all would want to fight. 245 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,020 I have an official substitute program nearby 246 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:37,800 that's called on crime decreases in that community. 247 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,480 So, I mean, that's not even another self-assessment 248 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,140 that you make. 249 00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:43,540 I have another clinic. 250 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,460 I have West Brown children that are going 251 00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:52,220 in the school close by, when there was many things to deal with in that, in that, in that specific geographic area. 252 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:57,940 In addition to that, there's a couple of other, a couple of weird things that go with it, and a topic that goes on with it. 253 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,400 And I'll note that I've tried to use it as part of the computer epidemic and associated with that, 254 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 that has been chosen in the financing, huge burdens, 255 00:22:07,540 --> 00:22:09,780 individual statements from the U.S. public health 256 00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:12,140 and the nation, and in another doubt, 257 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:14,540 our mediation has been treated appropriately as available, 258 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:17,480 but in terms of age, I would like to see it also be 259 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,420 resisting if you could understand the needs of 260 00:22:19,420 --> 00:22:22,160 the U.S. health care population with less crime 261 00:22:22,780 --> 00:22:25,220 and as a result of that, I think it's a great 262 00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:27,140 success we need to draw into the law of the country. 263 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,940 I mean, I wasn't able to write that yet, 264 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:39,060 So, I just want to be able to appreciate the benefits that have been looked so obviously 265 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:46,540 in a part of my school, but that have a huge impact on individual wellbeing and the community 266 00:22:46,540 --> 00:22:51,540 who are willing to step back and say, hey, this has a bigger effect than they did in 267 00:22:51,540 --> 00:23:02,940 to have an opportunity that's going to be so well-ground and incredible, in the management 268 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,380 of that. 269 00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:05,380 I'm going to talk a little bit about the ownership of this. 270 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,140 If you have any credible opportunities to make, 271 00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:13,790 if I were to go for a short piece 272 00:23:13,790 --> 00:23:17,770 of what I said, I'm not going to sit here and say, well, you have an opportunity 273 00:23:17,770 --> 00:23:30,410 And if you provide a service that will make this as important as you can do it, and by understanding the difference of the negative associations or something, it's not a difficult one to bring to the floor. 274 00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:32,750 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that. 275 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:35,090 That was about four years ago, and the state needs to be 276 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:35,590 prepared for it. 277 00:23:35,890 --> 00:23:38,610 I would like for people to be able to say, yes, there are 278 00:23:38,610 --> 00:23:40,470 things that are not available in the country, 279 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,070 but I would like to say that this is a very good task. 280 00:23:44,010 --> 00:23:46,690 And I would call on providing excellent care for the 281 00:23:46,690 --> 00:23:49,810 community and the staff that are being able to do that 282 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:53,050 and make people want to do the other part of the 283 00:23:53,050 --> 00:23:55,070 life in the community efforts to have a healthier 284 00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:56,090 life in the country. 285 00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:57,130 Thank you. 286 00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:57,610 I appreciate it. 287 00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:58,050 Thank you. 288 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,920 Vanessa Ruhlman. 289 00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:23,540 Vanessa Ruhlman. 290 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Vanessa Ruhlman. 291 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,660 There's been twenty-one shifts in a circle. 292 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:29,380 That's right. 293 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,360 At least we already have a problem. 294 00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:31,920 Three shifts? 295 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,040 Yes. 296 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,080 We're all close. 297 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:39,020 We have found out the hard way up here. 298 00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:39,400 Yes. 299 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,180 You have to be funny. 300 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,680 Yes. 301 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,620 You have someone on the back who continues having a can of beer. 302 00:24:45,820 --> 00:24:46,040 Okay. 303 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,880 I'm Vanessa Rolden. 304 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,900 I'm a nurse on a registered addiction specialist, 305 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 and I'm the owner of Wrinkle Treatment Center. 306 00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:56,020 I want to start out by clarifying we are not a drughouse, 307 00:24:56,060 --> 00:24:57,960 nor are we just a methadone clinic. 308 00:24:58,460 --> 00:25:01,260 We are a complete medication-assisted treatment program. 309 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,560 We provide medical services, individual group, and family counseling, 310 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,200 as well as assistance with social service needs that our patients might require. 311 00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:12,540 We do not sell and dispense medication on our program. 312 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:20,920 We provide a complete range of services in order to help those who are in use disorder achieve long-term recovery. 313 00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:25,400 I would like to let the community know the type of program that we intend to run. 314 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,180 At first, I want to say that this is a privately owned facility. 315 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,480 This means that we have the ability to set the tone for patients who want to participate in our program. 316 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,240 We live in this community. We drive on the same roads that you drive on. 317 00:25:39,340 --> 00:25:41,640 Our kids go to the same schools that your children go to. 318 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,460 The last thing that we want is to have a negative impact. 319 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:48,360 To that end, we are going to work with the community to address any concerns 320 00:25:48,860 --> 00:25:52,220 that you may have up front as well as on an ongoing basis. 321 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:56,620 As an example of this, we have heard some of the safety concerns 322 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:59,200 for garden school bus stop and for our facility. 323 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:05,580 To address this, we have incorporated a school bus safety training into our new patient orientation 324 00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:11,380 to bring patient's attention to this and to also go over bus stops, bus stop laws. 325 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:16,800 This program that is highly regulated at the state and federal level and we follow 326 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,820 strict internal policies and procedures to ensure that we are helping us effective by 327 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:24,840 open addiction while at the same time having a positive impact on our community. 328 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:31,500 Before anyone is even admitted into our program, they are put in a very intense screening process 329 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:36,600 to determine if they are an eligible candidate. The purpose of this is not only to determine 330 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,420 if the medication-assisted treatment is the best treatment in modality, but also determine 331 00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:45,820 if the individual is entering treatment for the right reasons. We will not accept individuals 332 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:50,660 who we see as a risk to our community, and we will not allow individuals to remain 333 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:54,900 in treatment if we determine that they are abusing treatment or otherwise putting the 334 00:26:54,900 --> 00:27:00,360 community at risk by not following our program rules. We have met with other owners of several 335 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,220 programs that operate with a similar mindset to ours and we have found that the community 336 00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:11,440 most often does not even know that these programs exist in their own community. We understand 337 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,160 that there are some concerns and we are going to do our best to address those concerns. 338 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,780 We plan on holding an open house, and we encourage anybody, citizens, council members, 339 00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:24,580 anybody to attend and learn more about medication-assisted treatment, 340 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,620 as well as to understand the type of program that we intend to run. 341 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Thank you. 342 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,220 Thank 343 00:27:36,510 --> 00:27:36,650 you. 344 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:37,570 Jonathan Cobb? 345 00:27:48,530 --> 00:27:49,770 My name is Jonathan Cobb. 346 00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:52,910 I'll fix this before it gets too far in here. 347 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:53,890 And it's a name and address. 348 00:27:54,450 --> 00:27:55,690 My name is Jonathan Cobb. 349 00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:58,130 My address is 200 Georgetown Drive in Regal. 350 00:27:58,130 --> 00:28:06,110 I am the new chairman of the Libertarian Party of Northwest Georgia, so hopefully you can see a little bit more of it in the future. 351 00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:14,570 We are concerned about this not only as citizens of Ringle, but also having done our research and educated ourselves 352 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:22,710 on what methadone clinics, as they're called, medication-assisted treatment facilities bring to the communities that they bring. 353 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:30,950 There's a study done by the University of California in San Francisco that shows the crime actually drops in most areas where there will run. 354 00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:35,590 We also have a study done by the University of Maryland that says the exact same thing. 355 00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:52,270 The University of California in San Francisco also did a separate study that shows that in the long run medical assisted treatment actually helps better than 188 detox programs do. 356 00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:57,530 Personally, I am a four-year-old and a two-year-old, both boys and beautiful young men. 357 00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:01,950 And whenever I left the Navy a year ago, I chose to come back to Ringgold. 358 00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:06,710 I could have stayed in San Diego, I could have been anywhere, but I came here because I love this area. 359 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:10,630 I would never do anything that I didn't believe would put them in harm. 360 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:16,870 My son goes to Ringgold Primary School and hopefully one day he'll be here at Ringgold High School. 361 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:19,730 and I hope that this clinic is still up and running 362 00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:20,950 and he doesn't even know it's there 363 00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:23,990 whenever he's less than, as it said, three miles away from. 364 00:29:24,610 --> 00:29:28,830 But on the other side of this, we all see crime going up. 365 00:29:28,990 --> 00:29:32,410 We all see this in Florida, Georgia, Tennessee. 366 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:35,110 We see crime going up because of opioid abuse. 367 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:40,650 I feel like we're kind of holding both sides of the coin here 368 00:29:40,650 --> 00:29:42,710 and neither side is helping. 369 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:43,810 Nobody wants to help. 370 00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:49,010 We want to put these guys in jail, we want to spend our tax dollars on putting them in prison, 371 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:54,110 we want to spend our tax dollars on enforcing more and more crime related to opioid abuse, 372 00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:59,710 but then we want to have meetings like this to try to stop them getting the more treatment in some of these areas. 373 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:05,460 Yes, we have other treatment facilities in this area, and like they said, they're closed. 374 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,260 Whether it's out of state or there's not out of state, we have a lot of people here in 375 00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:13,160 Catoose County that still need help. Some of them can't make it to those clinics, 376 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:19,440 because some of them are so bad off on opioids, especially prescription painkillers, 377 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,160 that they don't have cars, they don't have transportation. 378 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,020 They don't have a lot of these things to get here. 379 00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:33,680 Just a few days ago we had people called out because there was some people who were some 380 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,640 not so great characters at the corner of Graysville Road and 41. 381 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:41,040 It's the same situation every day. 382 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,800 We see it every day around us and I understand that we want to take care of our people, we 383 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,660 want to take care of everything. 384 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:52,140 But we also need to worry about theses, we need to take care of theses and educate 385 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:52,580 ourselves. 386 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,220 I've heard a lot of people bring up petitions. 387 00:30:55,220 --> 00:31:00,240 The reason why this came to our light was because we were asked to sign one of those petitions. 388 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:06,280 And in none of the material that we were presented to sign these petitions, was there any kind of education? 389 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Was there any kind of real substance to why we should not want this? 390 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:11,280 It was all fear. 391 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,480 Well, if you don't sign this, more crimes are going to come to the area. 392 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,760 If you don't, that was the tactic that was brought about. 393 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,940 So we kind of looked at it kind of skeptically. 394 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,280 So I just wanted to take a minute and say that I believe that this is a great thing for the community. 395 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,620 If it's running correctly, then run them out of town afterwards, whatever you want to do. 396 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:34,100 But at this point, I think you are accusing people of a crime that hasn't been committed. 397 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:39,780 You're assuming that somebody's going to do something wrong, instead of giving them the chance to do something right. 398 00:31:40,340 --> 00:31:47,440 And I think that's a travesty against the citizens of this county, and especially in Singapore. 399 00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:49,700 Appreciate your time. 400 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Thank you. 401 00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:16,040 Hello everyone. I have not attended to speak tonight, but it's just on my heart, and I've 402 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,580 got to. 403 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:25,430 I have no problem with treatment, people that have cancer and treatment, people 404 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:27,250 with those good addictions and treatment. 405 00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:30,650 But what I'm saying on my profession 406 00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:35,550 is that it's not what's happening in my case. 407 00:32:37,570 --> 00:32:39,990 And before I talk about other people's families, 408 00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:41,790 I need to address the audience. 409 00:32:42,290 --> 00:32:43,910 If anybody in here has family members, 410 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:46,830 they just passed away from my mother down there. 411 00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:55,110 Okay, so my nephew, when he passed away, 412 00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:56,690 he bought it on the streets. 413 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:58,350 Well, it wasn't on the streets, 414 00:32:58,350 --> 00:33:00,430 It was in a mall in North Carolina. 415 00:33:01,390 --> 00:33:03,070 He'd never taken it before. 416 00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:04,490 There's no what it would do. 417 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:07,430 My nephew was a hardened drug addict. 418 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:08,770 He had no reason to fear. 419 00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:13,290 And he took it, and I buried him. 420 00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:15,350 He was my baby. 421 00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:17,650 I had custody of him when he was a teenager 422 00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:20,190 and when he got old enough, he went back to Florida 423 00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:21,650 so I couldn't control him. 424 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:26,050 But what I'm saying is that opening up more clinics 425 00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:27,650 in the state of Georgia 426 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:30,310 is like putting a band-aid on the laceration. 427 00:33:30,890 --> 00:33:32,430 Now why am I saying that? 428 00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:35,770 I'm saying that because the river, the evil, 429 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:39,270 is over prescribing of opiates. 430 00:33:40,690 --> 00:33:43,470 People that truly desire and need treatment 431 00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:45,310 can get anywhere. 432 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:48,010 We don't have to open up more clinics. 433 00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:52,210 I have concerns because there is a step. 434 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:55,130 There is an order of things 435 00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:57,550 before you can open up a treatment clinic. 436 00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:00,650 To begin with, you have to have your federal regulations. 437 00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:07,490 You have to have your federal approvals before you go to the state 438 00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:09,450 and before you start treatment of food. 439 00:34:10,890 --> 00:34:13,710 So that has me some great concerns. 440 00:34:14,410 --> 00:34:14,930 Great concerns. 441 00:34:15,670 --> 00:34:20,890 But at the same time, all my cases that come back, 442 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:28,690 y'all know that 98% of the corner cases are coming back as overdoses. Now let me 443 00:34:28,690 --> 00:34:34,710 tell you, methadone for the past two years has been in the mix for the direct 444 00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:41,190 cause. Now once is happening because there are clinics, I'm not accusing these 445 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:45,430 folks of wrongdoing, that there are clinics that are selling it for a dollar a 446 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:53,570 It is a pretty good fact now, Dr. Carter, that methadone is not the choice to treat opioid addiction. 447 00:34:55,310 --> 00:35:03,350 So what I'm saying is that if they're going to offer other treatment plans other than methadone, 448 00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:08,190 if they're not going to sell it for a dollar apiece, if they're going to do everything they say they're going to do, 449 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:09,910 then I don't have a battle with them. 450 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:16,890 I am a family member of a child that overdosed because there are clinics that didn't sell 451 00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:23,350 it and it does get on the street and I'm having to tell families almost on a daily basis that 452 00:35:23,350 --> 00:35:26,870 their family member passed away because they got ahold of methadone on the street. 453 00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:34,730 When this first started, the American with Disabilities Act was to protect people that 454 00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:40,870 did have open addictions. It's not to protect people to come in and threaten if they don't 455 00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:48,390 open their clinics. The laws have not been changed very much since 1999. On top of that, 456 00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:53,870 there are other treatment modalities like I have stated other than the methadone. Methadone 457 00:35:53,870 --> 00:36:02,270 is very unstable. It repeats within a 48-hour period. People that take methadone and they're 458 00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:07,590 used to it, if they take it, they think, well, I don't feel this, so they'll turn around and take another. 459 00:36:08,330 --> 00:36:10,990 Putting more methadone on the street is not the answer. 460 00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:16,330 We need to look at trying to control the doctors that are over prescribing the opiates. 461 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:19,150 There are plenty of treatment facilities. 462 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:24,490 I would like to see for them to have to step up to the plate for themselves. 463 00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:30,170 And if they can't put themselves, then it's best to have some other people come in and try to do the job. 464 00:36:30,910 --> 00:36:36,810 And I know this is a harsh road to follow, but you know, people just have no speakers 465 00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:42,490 and I don't know if there's anybody in this room that doesn't know somebody or have a family member 466 00:36:42,490 --> 00:36:44,190 that doesn't have an opportunity to meet someone. 467 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:47,350 I also change and y'all know that. 468 00:36:48,370 --> 00:36:52,450 And my students tell me a lot of stuff that goes on inside. 469 00:36:53,610 --> 00:36:56,290 Not these folks because they haven't opened up yet. 470 00:36:57,050 --> 00:37:02,510 that I do now have students that go to the other clinics in a tremendous way to tell me. 471 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:04,810 Thank you. 472 00:37:18,430 --> 00:37:18,950 Leslie? 473 00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:23,770 No, okay, so... 474 00:37:23,770 --> 00:37:25,710 That's why I halfway filled it out. 475 00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:27,170 Okay, okay. 476 00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:28,810 Zach Talbot? 477 00:37:30,070 --> 00:37:30,450 Thanks. 478 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:40,690 My name's Zach Talbot. 479 00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:43,050 My address is 55, and I go to Langford Sharks. 480 00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:47,170 And the reason I've come up here today, for one, is because 481 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:53,630 I'm standing in front of you today as a successful person, a healthy person because of methanome treatment. 482 00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:56,630 I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for that treatment. 483 00:37:57,150 --> 00:38:01,610 I tried many non-medication assisted treatments first and continually relapsed. 484 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:05,490 Yeah, there are... 485 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:12,850 It's hard for me to even think of where to start because if you look at any credible authorities on this issue, 486 00:38:12,850 --> 00:38:16,730 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has not changed their positions. 487 00:38:17,230 --> 00:38:22,030 The Methadone Maintenance Treatment is the, quote, most effective treatment for opiate addiction. 488 00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:25,450 They have not recent that statement that's still their position. 489 00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:32,950 The National Institutes of Health, our own National Institutes of Health in their consensus panel on opiate addiction, 490 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:37,710 has deemed Methadone Maintenance Treatment the, quote, gold standard treatment. 491 00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:43,450 When treatment centers come into community, crime goes down, drug overdose death rates 492 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:44,090 go down. 493 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:45,170 These are facts. 494 00:38:45,770 --> 00:38:50,730 The National Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA, they've got a compilation of all the research 495 00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:53,490 of the past half century around this medication. 496 00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:59,150 When methadone overdose death rates have gone up, we have seen that. 497 00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:03,370 And so when the federal authorities looked into the reason these methadone death 498 00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:07,690 rates have gone up, the vast majority of methadone in those cases can't be 499 00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:13,290 back that they were coming from private prescriptions, from pain clinics, from not from opiate treatment 500 00:39:13,290 --> 00:39:20,630 programs. That is an established fact. Patients, I had to go to the center every day and take 501 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:25,790 my medication in front of a nurse. I wasn't taking it out. I didn't have a chance to 502 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:31,190 sell it on the street. The federal regulations prohibit that until you have reached stability 503 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:35,950 and recovery and have passed multiple drug screens and have participated in individual 504 00:39:35,950 --> 00:39:40,570 counseling and group therapy, you're not taking any medication out of that center. 505 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:48,150 And so I would just encourage the community to not look at the stigma and the hysteria, 506 00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:52,370 but to look at the established facts. This is the face of methadone treatment. 507 00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:57,770 I'm now an alcohol abuse counselor and a very successful person. 508 00:39:58,030 --> 00:40:01,390 I'm a graduate student because of this treatment. 509 00:40:01,390 --> 00:40:06,170 There are undoubtedly some bad treatments, or some bad treatment centers. 510 00:40:06,810 --> 00:40:11,010 That's true for any medical treatment that is not unique to this mentality. 511 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:16,790 But this is a solution. We're in an opioid addiction and overdose epidemic. 512 00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:20,910 And the facts are, if you looked at the National Institute of Drug Abuse, 513 00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:23,790 the White House Office on National Drug Control Policy, 514 00:40:24,290 --> 00:40:28,490 when methadone dispensing appropriately comes into a community 515 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:35,370 overdose death rates and drug-related crime go down. That is a fact. And so I 516 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:38,970 just encourage the town and the community, you've got people in front of you 517 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:44,150 that are wanting to run a reputable center. Federal approval does not come 518 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:48,530 first. You go to the state first. That's a fact. You can check with the state of 519 00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:53,270 Georgia. You apply with the state first. The state's already approved this 520 00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:59,470 facility they're licensed and so again I'm not sure at this point what can really 521 00:40:59,470 --> 00:41:03,850 be done to stop it from opening but I would count my blessings that you don't 522 00:41:03,850 --> 00:41:07,830 have one of these dollar a day centers trying to open in your community you 523 00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:11,510 have locals that are going to run a private facility and they want to involve 524 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:16,330 the community and they want to do this the right way so just consider and 525 00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:19,750 remember the face of people like me these aren't junkies in my alley 526 00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:26,050 This is, according to CDC, the most effective treatment for this epidemic that we're currently 527 00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:26,530 facing. 528 00:41:27,010 --> 00:41:31,590 This is most opioid-addicted people's best hope for recovery. 529 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:36,690 It certainly was mine because all the other treatments that we keep hearing about failed 530 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:39,950 me and they failed many others time and time again. 531 00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:42,390 Methanone saves lives. 532 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:43,570 Thank you. 533 00:41:44,050 --> 00:41:44,350 Thank you. 534 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:51,940 Shannon Campbell. 535 00:41:59,870 --> 00:42:00,790 I'm Shannon Campbell. 536 00:42:00,790 --> 00:42:02,930 I live 32 Springwood Drive, Maryland. 537 00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,610 I've actually lived here for about a year. 538 00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:08,310 I'm from Chicago, Tennessee. 539 00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:12,430 I moved to Carrollton for a while to get my Ph.D. in psychology. 540 00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:16,010 And a lot of my focus has been on holistic health 541 00:42:16,010 --> 00:42:18,450 and the use of natural psychoactives for psychotherapy, 542 00:42:18,590 --> 00:42:21,350 as opposed to my dissertation in particular, 543 00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:23,590 is focused on opioids and visit asopines. 544 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:27,130 One of the things that haven't been addressed, as a matter of fact, 545 00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:29,110 is the concern with tele-drug use, 546 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:30,530 especially with my children's clinics. 547 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,610 I actually have two daughters, 548 00:42:34,850 --> 00:42:36,050 so I'm speaking as a mother as well, 549 00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:37,830 14-year-old and nine-year-old. 550 00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:40,150 I think my biggest issue with this clinic, 551 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:41,950 like a lot of people said, 552 00:42:42,070 --> 00:42:44,290 I think especially clinics that are well-run 553 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:45,550 is not a bad thing, 554 00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:47,030 but the location of my daughter's home 555 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:48,190 is so close to the school. 556 00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:50,350 My daughter's already told me 557 00:42:50,350 --> 00:42:52,210 about a number of cases with family. 558 00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:53,910 She's like, man, there's so many kids 559 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:55,390 that have told me they've done this and that, 560 00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:57,730 and this and that, and she gets nervous. 561 00:42:58,810 --> 00:43:00,590 And she knows a little bit about my research, 562 00:43:00,610 --> 00:43:01,910 and she's like, mom, why don't they 563 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:03,330 have an alternative, so I'm like, 564 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:05,870 it's just not well known, you know, 565 00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:07,430 it's an unfortunate part of it, 566 00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:10,270 but I'm slowly but surely, before, 567 00:43:10,970 --> 00:43:13,050 I guess you could say, from perspective 568 00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:16,110 on how to use medicinal plants is growing, 569 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:18,390 but it's still coming, and I think 570 00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:20,370 we should just really appreciate, you know, 571 00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:22,290 the, how should I say, like, 572 00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:25,930 Pizzadazopines are probably the most common, but alcohol, 573 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:28,190 so we have tons of pharmacies, 574 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:31,470 it's not as many bars around here, 575 00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:34,430 but there's still opportunities to go to liquor stores, 576 00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:36,850 and a lot of these issues, 577 00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:39,350 especially with overdose, come up with applied drug use. 578 00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,710 As a matter of fact, they just came out 579 00:43:41,710 --> 00:43:44,110 with a black box warning about even patients 580 00:43:44,110 --> 00:43:45,630 who are prescribed opioids 581 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:47,590 and in the pizzadazopines together, 582 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:49,910 especially in things like Xanax, 583 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:53,710 end up having overdose issues and death. 584 00:43:54,790 --> 00:44:01,270 So I think that, you know, hopefully there'll be some consideration, you know, about the 585 00:44:01,270 --> 00:44:09,030 location as well as how it may influence down the road alcohol consumption as well as, 586 00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:14,570 you know, the shopping behavior of these people, some of them anyway, can be pretty 587 00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:14,930 rampant. 588 00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:19,170 They go from pharmacy to pharmacy, doctor to doctor, and there's people driving from 589 00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:21,010 in Kentucky and other places, you know, 590 00:44:21,070 --> 00:44:23,730 there's no telling to what degree they would be shopping around. 591 00:44:24,350 --> 00:44:25,850 And like some people mentioned, 592 00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:29,050 it's not in some of these methadone doses. 593 00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:31,910 Hopefully the clinic is running well, it won't be an issue, 594 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,210 but you know, like I said, as a mother, 595 00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:35,670 it concerns we're just a little bit. 596 00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:41,990 I think one of the biggest percentages I've found 597 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:44,650 in my research is 51% of methadone patients 598 00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:47,670 use benzodiazepines to get that high back. 599 00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:50,730 And that's a huge number, a huge number of people. 600 00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:53,810 I don't know how many who would go to these clinics would be. 601 00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:56,950 It would be good to have statistics on that, for sure. 602 00:44:57,870 --> 00:44:59,970 But please be consistent. 603 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,900 I consider it about how it can affect a number of people and what can be brought into the city, 604 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,140 especially when it comes to the kids and any kind of drug abuse violations. 605 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,660 Thank you. 606 00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:11,300 Thank you. 607 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,460 Joy and Jessie Thornton. 608 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:19,680 Hi, 609 00:45:28,270 --> 00:45:28,970 I'm Joy Thornton. 610 00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:32,630 I live at 533rd Spark Street right now in the high school. 611 00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:35,630 I have a business right down the street here on Tennessee Street. 612 00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:38,770 Actually, my husband and I have two businesses there. 613 00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:45,550 My, my, I was brought, this was brought to my attention, I guess I lived in my little 614 00:45:45,550 --> 00:45:50,370 junket world and didn't realize it was getting ready to open right across the street from 615 00:45:50,370 --> 00:45:50,630 me. 616 00:45:51,490 --> 00:45:54,590 And I, it was brought to my attention by some phone calls. 617 00:45:55,910 --> 00:46:02,770 And so then the Kansas County newspaper called me and asked me, you know, why they 618 00:46:03,350 --> 00:46:07,410 had understood I had spoken out loud on Facebook and were in my opinion. 619 00:46:07,410 --> 00:46:14,830 And in my opinion, in the newspaper, it quotes me as saying that people are concerned, meaning 620 00:46:14,830 --> 00:46:22,010 local ring old people, are concerned about drugs, drug users, drug abusers, and drugies, 621 00:46:22,090 --> 00:46:28,010 I said, being in the neighborhood and just being there, standing in line, waiting to 622 00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:32,550 get in and choosing to roam around town and do as they choose to do. 623 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:41,170 And because I was quoted as saying that, I was cursed. 624 00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:50,890 The lady went on the Facebook page and cursed me for saying that that I was concerned. 625 00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:56,250 So that's the kind of people who I saw, I see as being pro-this clinic. 626 00:46:56,250 --> 00:47:03,350 people who will call me an uneducated ignorant bad word just because I said 627 00:47:03,350 --> 00:47:10,190 local people are concerned about drug users being in the neighborhoods. So that 628 00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:16,090 even made me more concerned. Then I got a phone call from a gentleman who lives 629 00:47:16,090 --> 00:47:21,210 in Jamestown, Tennessee, which just happens to be where I grew up and he 630 00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:25,970 got my phone number and called me to ask me how in the world do you have 631 00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:33,210 the audacity to say that Methanone Clinic is bad. And I said, excuse me, who is this? 632 00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:39,610 He told me his name and I vaguely remember someone by that name being in high school around 633 00:47:39,610 --> 00:47:44,990 the same time I was. I don't live in James Town, Tennessee. I live in Ringgold, Georgia, 634 00:47:45,470 --> 00:47:50,090 where people ask me where you're from. I say I'm from Ringgold, Georgia now and that's 635 00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:57,290 where I'm from. I live here. All my well-being is here. My grandchildren go to the schools 636 00:47:57,290 --> 00:48:05,370 here. My husband grew up here. So I'm concerned about Ringgold, Georgia. So I said, why do 637 00:48:05,370 --> 00:48:10,570 you care, Jackie, if Ringgold, Georgia gets a clinic? Don't you still live in Jamestown, 638 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:17,970 Tennessee? He said, yes, I do. And I bought, I bought Harrowland and I bought Morphing 639 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:24,720 Morphing on the streets of Fentress County, but I drive to Georgia 640 00:48:25,940 --> 00:48:28,080 Once a month to get my methadone 641 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:32,360 I drive to Georgia now a hundred and forty miles 642 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,880 Once a month to get my methadone 643 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:42,440 So it's not the people of gatoosa County that the clinic think it's a county or helping per se 644 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,340 It's people a hundred and forty miles away in 645 00:48:45,340 --> 00:48:50,980 in Fentress County, Tennessee, and in Florida, and in Alabama, and in South Carolina, 646 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:52,960 coming here to get their drugs. 647 00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:55,380 That's my concern about it. 648 00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,240 When we have karate kids running up and down the streets doing their training, 649 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,920 we have kids getting on buses and walking to school. 650 00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:06,120 I have a business here. 651 00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:09,440 There's businesses over here that are going to be affected by this. 652 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,640 I don't even know if the little family, the Spanish-speaking family 653 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,420 that lives across the street from the methadone clinic and realizes that there are going to 654 00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:20,620 be people lined up in the parking lot when they're out there and they're swimming pooling 655 00:49:20,620 --> 00:49:26,180 in front of y'all. That's why I'm concerned about it. Thank you for your time. Thank 656 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:26,400 you. 657 00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:35,090 Just you're on here. Did you want to? 658 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,380 Good evening ladies and gentlemen. As you 659 00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:55,660 all know, I grew up here in Ringgold and I devoted my life to Ringgold. I've had 660 00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:59,620 opportunities to move to different countries to teach martial arts but I 661 00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:04,740 chose to stay here because someone reached out and helped me and gave me a 662 00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:11,180 chance and to see that you know I understand this clinic is here to to 663 00:50:11,180 --> 00:50:17,180 give somebody a chance to change their life like this young man over here. How 664 00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:24,140 many have you seen change their life like that? We have kids every single 665 00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:29,340 day, run up and down these streets, training to make their black blood. 666 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:34,620 We have kids running around the nature's trail over here. 667 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,840 We have them running by Kentucky Fried Chicken, over in Blovey, up by the high school. 668 00:50:41,660 --> 00:50:48,740 All over this city, and to bring this into our city, I really feel like it's a really 669 00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:51,360 bad situation to be a part of. 670 00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:00,600 And look at the people that have migrated to KJUCCA and Ringo because of the things that are going on in Chattanooga and in Dawson. 671 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:09,760 You know, people in Chattanooga have moved to Ringo because they feel like this is one of the safest cities that they can move to. 672 00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:17,400 Yes, we have our, you know, we have our share of property just like any city does. 673 00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:23,680 But we've got an awesome council here that really may bring those stand-on-the-mout. 674 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:29,700 People see, people want to come to Reno because they know that they can be safe. 675 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,020 Look at all these older people that are right walking every single night. 676 00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,640 You didn't ever, you know, you wouldn't see that in Chattanooga. 677 00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:42,680 You wouldn't see that in Dalton because everybody's afraid that they're going to 678 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,160 get jumped. 679 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,880 But if we bring that clinic here, we're going to run into the same problems. 680 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:53,450 I don't want that clinic to affect my business. 681 00:51:54,350 --> 00:51:55,890 I'm 56 years old. 682 00:51:56,110 --> 00:51:58,770 I've been teaching martial arts here for 42 years. 683 00:52:00,130 --> 00:52:01,910 I'm not going to let that run me out of time. 684 00:52:03,930 --> 00:52:07,590 I love, you know, I respect you all for what you're trying to do and how you're 685 00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:08,270 trying to do it. 686 00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:16,870 but my grandson and my granddaughter, their mother was on this and she went to 687 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:23,070 the clinic there on Rossville Boulevard just so she could get a high and you know 688 00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:27,390 I said I'm not gonna take you there just for that she said well if I don't get it 689 00:52:27,390 --> 00:52:29,870 there I gotta go get it somewhere else and 690 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,680 so to me when a person just 691 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,920 specifically speaks out and say that's why I'm going you 692 00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:43,800 look in and you 693 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,760 tell me what you think. 694 00:52:47,420 --> 00:52:52,620 And, you know, it's a shame that their own mother can't 695 00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:59,480 raise them because of this stuff, you know. But I thank God that they're my 696 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,680 grandchildren, that our grandchildren, so that they have a chance in life because 697 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,800 they're not going to be exposed to that. We're going to raise these kids the right way. 698 00:53:11,620 --> 00:53:16,780 That's why I speak so much about the Lord here at our school and how we 699 00:53:16,780 --> 00:53:18,940 We should carry each other and protect each other. 700 00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:24,160 And that's the way I feel about our whole community, you know? 701 00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:28,680 You put your life on the line every day in the law enforcement. 702 00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:33,180 You know, you guys are going to be offered your life on the line for this season. 703 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,220 And I ask you, you said, can you go home at night and lay down and sleep without worrying 704 00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:44,560 about all the stuff coming in in the season? 705 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,200 and these people that are driving 150 miles are frozen. 706 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,700 I mean, why can't they go to these other clinics? 707 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,520 There's four already here. 708 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,440 Probably the way up to have one right here. 709 00:53:59,340 --> 00:54:01,440 I wouldn't mind if they moved it somewhere else, 710 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,580 but not here in the city of Ringo. 711 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,260 Thank you. 712 00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:25,280 I went four, 15, 10 while it was out of here, 713 00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:26,680 Mary Wilton said, 714 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,460 I've got 25 years in education background, 715 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:35,500 assistant principal, athletic director, school teacher, 716 00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:39,080 also 15 years in law enforcement, 717 00:54:39,580 --> 00:54:41,200 who's our deputy with sheriff's department. 718 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,760 Several comments that I'm hearing, 719 00:54:46,220 --> 00:54:49,120 we don't want that here, we don't want that coming here. 720 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,940 It's already here. 721 00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:52,880 The director already in your camp, 722 00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:03,160 Working as a consultant for some sort of director of security for some clinics, and what I'm 723 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:12,240 going to call effectively run programs, chiefs of police, sheriffs of the county, encourage 724 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:18,380 their drug units to go by and actually get cards to hand out as effective treatment 725 00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:27,700 for votes because, unlike a lot of other substance abuses, abstinence does not work for a large 726 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:34,680 percentage of opioid addiction. And that's, again, it goes back to the chemistry of what 727 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:42,040 happens with the actual narcotic itself. And most of the deaths that we have seen, 728 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,440 And you know, we're in one of 14 counties that's the, and you're going to see this, 729 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,300 the second highest opioid death rates in the nation per capita. 730 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,460 And, you know, we've, so it's been something, you know, why is that all of a sudden happening 731 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,460 about five to seven years ago? 732 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,980 There was a big push to close all the pain pill clinics. 733 00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:13,940 pain clinics, a lot of pain doctors, pain clinics that made it more difficult to get from a pain 734 00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:22,840 doctor in opioids, which is then why you had a influx for the first time in 20 years, a 735 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,080 heroin epidemic, because it was cheaper to get and easier to get, because you never 736 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:34,100 offered an effective treatment to take the place of what they were addicted to. And 737 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:38,280 And so what we saw in our county, we were, while we were celebrating the law enforcement, 738 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:44,440 that we shut down all the pain-filled mills, we call them, in our town, and in our county, 739 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,780 we didn't offer anything of an effective treatment to take into place. 740 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,980 And so now what we started seeing was Ivy Heron used backup on the rise for the first 741 00:56:56,980 --> 00:56:59,260 time, like I said, in over 20 years. 742 00:56:59,260 --> 00:57:12,880 And so, a lot of our overdose deaths have come, and again, statistically talking in the law enforcement circle, a lot of the death rates in the overdoses is not just methadone that's in their system. 743 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:25,980 And again, doing research of a lot of the science that your body affects, it's mixing those other drugs that they're buying off the street with the methadone that they're buying off the street, 744 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:32,480 or that they're buying off, you know, that they're getting from, you know, a pain doctor. 745 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,580 And unfortunately, they're getting from their primary care physician. 746 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,700 So it's not the junkies that we see in the movies like we see in the New York movies 747 00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:46,100 where they're in the back alleys and making their drug deals. 748 00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:51,120 These are professionals that are going to their primary care physician. 749 00:57:52,740 --> 00:58:00,760 getting a script, and because they've had a long history with that doctor, they're continuing 750 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,280 to increase their script. 751 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,600 You know, that's just not working for me right now. 752 00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:18,060 On personal knowledge of a person, the chief of staff of a hospital that's also a primary 753 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:25,100 care physician was prescribing so many pain pills to a patient that a local 754 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:32,240 mom-and-pop pharmacy wasn't able to fill the prescription for the must-supply. 755 00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:40,320 This was a cheapest stack of a hospital. So again, it's not, oh my gosh, the drugs 756 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,980 are coming in off the street. They're gonna be coming to Ringo and bringing 757 00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:50,280 drugs. The drugs are already in your community and talking to several law 758 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,160 enforcement officers where a new treatment center has opened up. Like I 759 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,820 said, they are the ones that are encouraging people. They start noticing, 760 00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:05,660 and I think I'm going to quote in a local county around here, the Chuka 761 00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:16,320 police that makes sense now why when we are arresting folks their first words 762 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:23,340 out of their mouth it's been so hard to find I'm having to do things for 763 00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:26,460 dangerous thank you thank you 764 00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:35,750 that's all that I had on my list we have made it 765 00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:36,950 And change to the agenda. 766 00:59:39,830 --> 00:59:43,670 I believe I got it. I believe I got it. I had it delivered to me. I think we're good. 767 00:59:46,270 --> 00:59:49,110 Was there another song? Please, please, please call. 768 00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:54,120 You're number 13. Are you sure? 769 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,580 Name and address please. 770 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,820 This is Erica Incock from the 6161-way drive. 771 01:00:04,340 --> 01:00:09,700 Excuse me, I didn't attend the speaker, I'm a little nervous, but one of the main concerns 772 01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,560 that everyone is speaking about is the safety of their children. 773 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,900 But what about the children that have to go home every day to drive their users? 774 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,860 Do they not get a fair chance to have parents that are drug-free? 775 01:00:23,060 --> 01:00:24,440 I speak with my father. 776 01:00:25,180 --> 01:00:33,920 I was under us when I was growing up and luckily my mother wasn't and my parents divorced and 777 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,540 I was able to live with my mother and I grew up in a very safe home but I have a lot of 778 01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:51,060 memories from things that I've seen from my father and some kids don't have the, 779 01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:55,920 They're not blessed with the fact that they get to grow up in a drug-free home. 780 01:00:56,220 --> 01:01:03,060 So I understand that it is a concern that your kids are running around here with a methadone 781 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:09,820 clinic right down the road, but there are some kids that they don't get to go home to a drug-free home. 782 01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:19,220 They need to have parents who have an option or resources to get treatment for their safety. 783 01:01:19,220 --> 01:01:23,980 If you're going to think about one set of kids, then you need to think about all the kids. 784 01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:30,920 You need to think about everybody that this can impact, and not just one small set of people. 785 01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:38,100 This is huge. This is a big thing, and this can impact more than just a small group. 786 01:01:38,860 --> 01:01:41,220 And I just think that people need to start considering that. 787 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,500 When you think about safety of kids, you need to be thinking about safety of children 788 01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:49,420 But don't get to go home to say, um, like your children do. 789 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,780 And that's all I need to say. Thank you. 790 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:52,780 Thank you. 791 01:01:58,180 --> 01:02:01,020 Mayor, can I use my other 10 minutes, but it needs... 792 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,740 Please, I guess I wouldn't have to take a motion from the council today. 793 01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:07,020 You're going to let me... 794 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,640 Oh, that's... 795 01:02:10,910 --> 01:02:14,270 If the mic was taken from the washroom, I would not be there. 796 01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:17,310 I'd be able to show you something, but if the mic is taken from the washroom, 797 01:02:17,310 --> 01:02:18,310 we won't be able to touch that. 798 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:31,850 If someone would like to make a motion, that would entertain a motion, that's it, no one would like to, I'll move on. 799 01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:42,280 We did move to make the council comments to the public to just under citizens' comments. 800 01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:51,560 So I'd like to start. I have a couple of things I'd like to say. 801 01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:55,560 First off, I want to thank 802 01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:02,440 everyone who came. I don't see anything except passion for our community and for the people 803 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,400 in our community on both sides. And I just really appreciate you coming and speaking 804 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,700 your heart and it fills my heart to see a full courtroom and I just really from the bottom 805 01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:18,180 of my heart want to thank you for coming and sharing with us what you have. 806 01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:26,420 There is a couple of points that I think that it's important to make about what the city's 807 01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:33,000 role is in this process. I know that there's a lot of people arguing for the clinic 808 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:42,000 and against the clinic and I do want to say that and this is to me is a bigger 809 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:49,920 issue that is preceded this is the state has such control over this process and 810 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,360 this is an issue that we've been dealing with the state with not just with 811 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,360 this issue in my opinion but there's a lot of things that the city needs to 812 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:05,440 more control over this being one of them and so and so we are happy that our state delegation 813 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,920 fought so hard to put in a moratorium so that we could at least examine the issue 814 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:17,460 and if they didn't necessary give local communities the tools they need to better 815 01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:23,260 decide how we want to grow our communities. So they have been receptive to that, 816 01:04:23,260 --> 01:04:30,520 there is a current moratorium and we are diligently working throughout this process to try to make 817 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:38,520 sure that they do give the cities the tools that they need to be more self-determined whichever 818 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:46,510 way that might be. And so I did want to share that. As far as the the Lawson's seeing and 819 01:04:46,510 --> 01:04:53,350 permitting goes. That's, unfortunately, because this is handled at the state level, something 820 01:04:53,350 --> 01:04:58,390 that we were not privy to whenever they made their application. It's not something that 821 01:04:58,390 --> 01:05:04,350 they informed the city about. There's a late in the process. They do apply for a business 822 01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:10,870 tax permit. That's just for us to collect the tax from them. But again, I'm looking 823 01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:14,810 forward to what the state of Tennessee, or I'm sorry, the state of Georgia does, 824 01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:16,850 to give us some of the tools that we need. 825 01:05:18,830 --> 01:05:23,750 This application did come in for the moratorium took place and so we have a full 826 01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:24,470 quarter in tonight. 827 01:05:26,170 --> 01:05:31,810 We are diligently, as a city, and this is an important job that we're doing, 828 01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:35,970 we are diligently making sure that they meet all the requirements because 829 01:05:37,090 --> 01:05:39,070 that's one of the things that we're supposed to do. 830 01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:42,610 That's our job as a city, as a city is to make sure that they are meeting 831 01:05:42,610 --> 01:05:48,850 each and every single one of those requirements and we understand the concerns that are brought 832 01:05:48,850 --> 01:05:56,810 up on both sides and I do want you to know that the city and a lot of people are bringing 833 01:05:56,810 --> 01:06:01,610 things to the city for us to look at and we always welcome people within the community 834 01:06:01,610 --> 01:06:08,050 who live and where we can play here, bring things to us so that we can make the most 835 01:06:08,050 --> 01:06:14,690 important decisions that we can. And so that's where we're at right now in this 836 01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:21,790 process, verifying that sort of thing. And then on the back end, really the only 837 01:06:21,790 --> 01:06:26,410 authority that we have is zoning, ensuring that the zoning is enforced. 838 01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:32,770 And they have zoning that they have to meet ahead of time. And also once they 839 01:06:32,770 --> 01:06:36,690 begin operating, they have to comply with the zoning for a medical 840 01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:42,490 facility. That's how it's done. And so that would be the city's role at that point. And 841 01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:48,030 so I wanted to put that information out there to make sure everybody knew where the city 842 01:06:48,030 --> 01:06:54,090 was at, what we're doing, and what our role actually is. I would welcome any comments 843 01:06:54,090 --> 01:06:57,430 from the council that would like to speak. 844 01:07:01,450 --> 01:07:09,250 Thank you. Thank you all for coming and sharing your points of view and I'm sure all of us 845 01:07:09,250 --> 01:07:14,910 on the council will be agreeable to this but I'm going to suggest that the minutes from 846 01:07:15,610 --> 01:07:20,990 that have been shared, the minutes taken from the comments are provided not only to our 847 01:07:20,990 --> 01:07:28,550 Commissioner of Public Health who is actually over the department which license clinics 848 01:07:28,550 --> 01:07:29,510 of this nature. 849 01:07:30,290 --> 01:07:37,810 Commissioner Rees has provided that material, as well as our Senator, Senator Jeff Mullis, 850 01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:44,330 has been working as well as several of our legislative delegations have worked to create 851 01:07:44,330 --> 01:07:49,570 the moratorium and actually the Senator will be chairing the committee that's going to 852 01:07:49,570 --> 01:07:55,870 be working over the next year that we'll be developing the various decisions that 853 01:07:55,870 --> 01:08:02,370 the state will eventually make a politics of this nature and put it to law in the coming 854 01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:07,590 legislative period next spring. But he has shared with me that he's planning on bringing 855 01:08:07,590 --> 01:08:14,110 that committee to Ringgold. I encourage you, but no matter which side of the issue you're 856 01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:19,330 on, when you see that, watch for that, please come and share your views with that committee 857 01:08:19,330 --> 01:08:25,170 because that will have an impact not only in Ringgold but all across the state relating 858 01:08:25,170 --> 01:08:31,770 to these. He has expressed to me that it would come up sometime in the very near future. So 859 01:08:31,770 --> 01:08:36,350 it could be this month, it could be next, but watch your local newspaper, I'm sure they'll 860 01:08:36,350 --> 01:08:42,650 be announcing that when that comes to pass. So I encourage we also share our minutes with 861 01:08:42,650 --> 01:08:49,210 that body, with the state. I want to thank you once again for being here. As far as 862 01:08:49,210 --> 01:08:55,070 the mayor has covered most of our responsibilities, unfortunately our power has given to 863 01:08:55,070 --> 01:09:03,030 us by the state. We're limited to what we can do related to any facility of many different 864 01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:08,550 kinds, but especially in this area, the state has retained the power to make decisions relating 865 01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:15,350 to this. So we have to defer you and encourage you to talk with our friends at the Department 866 01:09:15,350 --> 01:09:22,010 of Public Health and share your concerns with them as well as the governor. We 867 01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:28,990 through overseas that ultimately you can share with either of those offices and I'm sure they 868 01:09:28,990 --> 01:09:33,930 would love to hear from you, no matter which side of the issue you're on. So thank you, Mr. Mayer. 869 01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:37,970 Thank you. Anyone else? Please, Jane. 870 01:09:38,410 --> 01:09:46,830 I'd like to say thank you all. This is an issue that once you start looking at it, 871 01:09:46,830 --> 01:09:52,450 I'm just taking a little bit of drugs on one of the worst things that's here in our company and it's just massive. 872 01:09:53,290 --> 01:09:55,870 Not even massive, the hold that it's got. 873 01:09:57,850 --> 01:10:02,010 I don't have a quick solution. I don't think you think that I have a quick solution. 874 01:10:04,090 --> 01:10:10,070 Well, this is our hometown. Joel mentioned how long you've been here. I think we've been here in Hawaii in our time. 875 01:10:10,750 --> 01:10:14,290 45, 46 years. Wouldn't want to move anywhere else. 876 01:10:16,090 --> 01:10:21,130 We've got things that we have to work with, the laws of the federal government, the state. 877 01:10:21,930 --> 01:10:24,530 These kind of things, that's unfair to see. 878 01:10:25,390 --> 01:10:31,270 On the other side, everybody here has their opinion, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent. 879 01:10:32,490 --> 01:10:33,950 And we're all involved in that opinion. 880 01:10:34,490 --> 01:10:35,290 We're in America. 881 01:10:35,710 --> 01:10:40,370 That's why we have to be able to see it and talk as openly as we have tonight. 882 01:10:41,230 --> 01:10:43,130 I do encourage all of them. 883 01:10:43,930 --> 01:10:51,390 Don't stop at our board level. Go to the state. Get your governor, get your senator. Get all of these people. 884 01:10:52,230 --> 01:10:57,670 And let them know how you feel. Because everyone's a city doctor, they're on the right path in this one. 885 01:10:58,410 --> 01:11:02,250 And hopefully when it comes out, it will be one that we can all get to them. 886 01:11:02,710 --> 01:11:07,130 That it will be one that just got them to us. I can't tell you who will or won't. 887 01:11:07,790 --> 01:11:13,250 But if they send the mandate up here and the vote comes up, you don't have to vote that 888 01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:13,470 way. 889 01:11:14,190 --> 01:11:20,030 So this is your time to get in here and try to change their opinions and give them your 890 01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:21,050 opinions about this. 891 01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:26,170 Drop that cornering slot and make the phone call and say, hey, this is what I want, or 892 01:11:26,170 --> 01:11:26,930 this is what I want. 893 01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:29,130 It looks like you all have your time. 894 01:11:31,570 --> 01:11:33,090 What do you want us to do, Tony? 895 01:11:34,430 --> 01:11:35,030 Please say. 896 01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:42,630 Again, I'd like to thank all of you for coming and I don't want to take up very much time 897 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:53,430 because it's been said that the city really had no responsibility, no authority in this 898 01:11:53,430 --> 01:12:01,310 area, whether we like it or whether we don't, it was a state issue, it is a state permit. 899 01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:10,450 So, what I'm going to do is just encourage all of you again to come and follow the State 900 01:12:10,450 --> 01:12:10,930 Committee. 901 01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:19,810 Jeff Mullis, who is our Senator, will be actually chairing those meetings during this year when 902 01:12:19,810 --> 01:12:23,310 there will be no clinics opened in Georgia. 903 01:12:23,890 --> 01:12:30,190 And I am hopeful that what comes out of this is standards. 904 01:12:30,190 --> 01:12:37,150 standards that if you're if you're afraid of what comes in standards that we can 905 01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:45,270 then have power as a local community to enforce so again I encourage everybody 906 01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:54,190 to talk to their state representatives to go to those meetings held by Senator 907 01:12:54,190 --> 01:13:02,830 Demolus, hopefully one soon we'll be up here, voice your opinion, but act on that as well. 908 01:13:03,250 --> 01:13:12,930 Say what can we do if the answer is not going to be yes and no, if the answer is going to 909 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:21,350 be higher standards to meet in order to allow a treatment facility to exist, then I hope 910 01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:29,330 you participate in that process, too, and what would be those standards to keep our children 911 01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:36,470 safe and at the same time allow treatment for drug addiction, right? 912 01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:45,310 Yes, what I would like to do is say thank you for the speaker. I think we heard a wealth 913 01:13:45,310 --> 01:13:52,370 of information from both sides, for and against. Like another side, born and raised here in 914 01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:54,350 when I'm concerned about quality of life. 915 01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:57,810 I think we had some real good issues that came forward 916 01:13:57,810 --> 01:14:01,590 and this file presented to CAD documents 917 01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:03,110 that shows the number of calls. 918 01:14:04,150 --> 01:14:06,390 I know from being the chief at Quilford, 919 01:14:06,770 --> 01:14:09,770 the concern that we had there, 920 01:14:10,170 --> 01:14:12,830 and it's been expressed is the number of cars 921 01:14:13,470 --> 01:14:15,650 that would come in in the wee hours of the morning 922 01:14:15,650 --> 01:14:17,190 and would stay there on the parking lot. 923 01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:19,370 We'd probably have to send those calls for service 924 01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:20,170 for the police department. 925 01:14:21,190 --> 01:14:31,010 So going forward, I share a lot of those concerns because of our community and what I would like to address specifically as I think going forward, 926 01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:43,930 if we see this treatment center open, because each one of us knows that it's the opiate addiction of what we're seeing from the mixing of methadone 927 01:14:43,930 --> 01:14:53,030 And I think one of our speakers briefly touched on the problems of mixing medication and methadone 928 01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:59,390 mixing with the adenzones, which is something that is commonly done, which causes a lot of the deaths. 929 01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:06,860 There are a lot of concerns in this area. There's a lot of good ordinance for and against. 930 01:15:07,060 --> 01:15:13,280 I hope, going forward, if this treatment center opens, that you will have a lot of safe courts 931 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,380 in place, that you will be very responsible. I would encourage you also to look into possibly 932 01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:23,320 having that all night security and that security in those wee hours of the morning is something 933 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:28,280 I would recommend just to police that parking lot. I think that's a great idea. I would 934 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:34,260 do that with law enforcement and not just private security. So addiction is a terrible 935 01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:38,600 problem in our country. We see it, but we talked about the medication from the 936 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,180 doctors prescribed the medication over prescribed the medication that we've 937 01:15:42,180 --> 01:15:46,840 seen from hydrocodone, oxygen codone, and we can go on and on and on. So it's a 938 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,520 problem that we have to figure out how going forward as Americans to 939 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,660 effectively deal with that percentage of people that have a problem with 940 01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:59,900 addiction, whatever that addiction is. So thank you. Each one of you, it takes a lot of courage 941 01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:06,460 to come up to that microphone and speak. And I agree with Mr. Chandler that it scares me 942 01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:07,800 also. Thank you. 943 01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:16,480 At this time, I would like to take a five-minute intermission. I know some of you may or may 944 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,240 not want to. Intermission? 945 01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:19,180 Recess. 946 01:16:19,780 --> 01:16:22,820 Recess. Recess. It's not a property word. They're recessed. 947 01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:23,500 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 948 01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:29,020 motion to recess can get second motion second on favor and you're welcome to 949 01:16:29,020 --> 01:16:31,580 state for the rest of our meeting if you'd like to go go we're just gonna 950 01:16:31,580 --> 01:16:33,720 take a moment to visit the restrooms 951 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:55,740 That's what this is. 952 01:16:55,940 --> 01:16:57,220 Well, I'm not so sure. 953 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,060 I'm just waiting for you here. 954 01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:01,620 Thank you. 955 01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:03,200 How do you... 956 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:03,780 How do you... 957 01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:04,200 How do you... 958 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:04,320 How do you... 959 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:05,160 How do you... 960 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:05,460 How do you... 961 01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:06,620 How do you... 962 01:17:06,620 --> 01:17:16,400 How do you... 963 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,500 How do you... 964 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,480 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 965 01:23:49,860 --> 01:23:57,640 I'm going to call on you all, we just want to thank you for joining us today. 966 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,180 Thank you so much. 967 01:23:59,080 --> 01:23:59,340 Thank you. 968 01:23:59,620 --> 01:24:00,480 Thank you. 969 01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:02,040 Thank you. 970 01:24:02,180 --> 01:24:02,880 Thank you. 971 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,260 Thank you. 972 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:06,800 Thank you. 973 01:24:06,980 --> 01:24:08,160 Thank you. 974 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,240 Thank you. 975 01:30:03,020 --> 01:30:03,900 I'll see you in a second. 976 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,760 I'll take a look at that. 977 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,020 Thank you. 978 01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:19,800 Thank you, everybody. 979 01:30:20,180 --> 01:30:20,640 Thank you. 980 01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:20,780 Thank you, everybody. 981 01:30:21,020 --> 01:30:24,760 Thank you. 982 01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:30,500 Thank you. 983 01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:02,660 Can I get a motion to call the meeting back to order, please? 984 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,620 Sorry, wait. 985 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:04,180 Do I need to wait? 986 01:31:05,620 --> 01:31:06,340 No, wait. 987 01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:06,800 Just a moment. 988 01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:10,740 Shall we move? 989 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:12,520 Second. 990 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,640 I have a motion to second to come back in session. 991 01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:16,300 All in favor? 992 01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:19,880 I take that as unanimous four. 993 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,020 We are in public hearings. 994 01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,360 Were we going to add the notice of the property tax into our public hearings? 995 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,500 It's already advertised, it just didn't get on the discussion. 996 01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:37,500 Okay, so I'm just going to include those. 997 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,700 I'll just take it as I'm being under public hearing. 998 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:45,160 So item A, William H. Colbury is requesting a variance, 999 01:31:45,460 --> 01:31:50,380 and there were 1,500 square feet for a top one single family detached dwelling 1000 01:31:50,380 --> 01:31:53,940 in C1 zone to 850 plus minus square feet, 1001 01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:57,060 located at tax map R bug partial 4. 1002 01:31:57,060 --> 01:32:02,620 Is there anyone here that would like to speak on this public hearing? 1003 01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:10,200 Hearing no one, I'll close the public hearing for that item. 1004 01:32:13,380 --> 01:32:18,360 And then I'll open up for our notice of our property tax increase. 1005 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:26,160 This is a tax increase that's about $6 on a $100,000 piece of property for the year. 1006 01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:32,640 We have our notes here on 125,000. It would be $7.60. 1007 01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:40,090 So if anyone would like to speak on that, I'll leave the floor open for that. 1008 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,720 And so I'll close the public hearing on that. 1009 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,380 Okay, so we moved a couple of things. 1010 01:32:56,860 --> 01:32:58,100 I'm on the new business. 1011 01:32:58,660 --> 01:33:00,540 Oh, okay. So we need to, that's right. 1012 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:01,620 I'm developing a public hearing. 1013 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,620 So out of my own public hearing, how will the council like to proceed? 1014 01:33:05,620 --> 01:33:06,760 Mr. 1015 01:33:09,330 --> 01:33:19,710 Mayor, I'll move that we allow this variance that Mr. Copper is required and as stated in 1016 01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:25,050 the planning and zoning that this variance, and I think that's our norm, the variance does 1017 01:33:25,050 --> 01:33:31,910 not continue should the property owner change, if my memory serves me correctly, so that 1018 01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:33,090 should be the case here. 1019 01:33:34,090 --> 01:33:39,510 a motion in a second to approve all in favor. You now have a score. 1020 01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:44,510 But you did add that with the perception that it's planning the zoning path. 1021 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:50,030 I think that's normal in our case. It's in our planning the zoning phase. 1022 01:33:52,010 --> 01:33:54,310 If the property owner changes. 1023 01:33:55,170 --> 01:34:00,270 The variance doesn't continue. It dies with the change of property owner. 1024 01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:03,910 I was believing that, but I noticed they put it down the plate of his own. 1025 01:34:04,010 --> 01:34:07,110 So either way, it's a new 1026 01:34:10,860 --> 01:34:11,260 business. 1027 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:12,000 I don't know. 1028 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,200 Integral agreement. 1029 01:34:15,460 --> 01:34:19,620 I don't think we have to find a separate rate. 1030 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:20,960 Yes, this is the third. 1031 01:34:21,220 --> 01:34:21,880 That's okay. 1032 01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:26,620 So notice the property tax increase motion to approve. 1033 01:34:27,140 --> 01:34:30,940 You see we're at 3.15 mils. 1034 01:34:30,940 --> 01:34:32,360 Can I, can I get a motion to that effect? 1035 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:34,420 So, Moody. 1036 01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:36,640 A motion, do I have a second? 1037 01:34:38,420 --> 01:34:38,940 So, okay. 1038 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,780 We've got a motion and a second. 1039 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,300 All in favor? 1040 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:43,560 You know what it's for? 1041 01:34:50,010 --> 01:34:51,970 We really want to go to your business side of mind now. 1042 01:34:54,150 --> 01:34:55,370 But, Intergovernment will agree that 1043 01:34:55,370 --> 01:34:58,350 between Cattice Utility District and the city 1044 01:34:58,350 --> 01:35:00,590 for relocation of Waterline on Chapman Road 1045 01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:02,990 and for the Highway 41 project, yeah? 1046 01:35:03,390 --> 01:35:05,030 Yes, there is, of course, Phil. 1047 01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:10,370 here if you have any real big questions we'd like to answer. Mainly what we're 1048 01:35:10,370 --> 01:35:16,630 doing here is we're adding relocation of a water line that's in conflict with our 1049 01:35:16,630 --> 01:35:21,290 new structure that we plan to put on Chapman Road to help with the flooding 1050 01:35:21,290 --> 01:35:26,830 issues or the white flooding issues into our contract and it'll be get out 1051 01:35:26,830 --> 01:35:34,630 as a separate item so that we'll be able to track what that cost and then 1052 01:35:34,630 --> 01:35:36,690 to only have one contractor on the job 1053 01:35:37,180 --> 01:35:38,410 rather than multiple contractors. 1054 01:35:41,070 --> 01:35:43,490 How do we move the improvement on improvement? 1055 01:35:43,850 --> 01:35:44,610 Emotion to approve. 1056 01:35:44,810 --> 01:35:45,310 Can I get a second? 1057 01:35:46,070 --> 01:35:46,350 Sorry. 1058 01:35:46,930 --> 01:35:47,690 Emotion to second. 1059 01:35:47,830 --> 01:35:49,970 Alan Baker, T9 School. 1060 01:35:56,380 --> 01:35:58,560 Highway 41, Chattanooga Improvement Project 1061 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,340 Amendment for Professional Services, 1062 01:36:00,540 --> 01:36:02,480 provided by CTI, Dan. 1063 01:36:02,860 --> 01:36:06,440 Yes, originally we only approved a contract 1064 01:36:06,440 --> 01:36:09,420 for the design and now we're to the point 1065 01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:16,640 where Phillip is ready to put that to bed, and this would be not only to cover doing our defense facts 1066 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:22,580 and do the bed and the board's assistance, but also for the construction management 1067 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:29,660 or administration of the project. And that's where if that a contractor has problems, 1068 01:36:29,860 --> 01:36:34,740 then you will be able to call Phillip, Phillip or his staff will be able to do inspections to 1069 01:36:34,740 --> 01:36:38,360 make sure that we get what we have been after. 1070 01:36:38,420 --> 01:36:41,720 This is especially important since this is the DOP project. 1071 01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:45,480 And so you're just, in order to move forward, 1072 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,120 you're needing a motion that would 1073 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,540 say that we're going to amend our budget. 1074 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,740 Operate as a lawyer to face the Q and A number one. 1075 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,240 We're making a motion. 1076 01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:58,020 Thank you, Randall. 1077 01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:58,440 Second. 1078 01:36:59,500 --> 01:36:59,920 Second. 1079 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:01,420 Motion to second. 1080 01:37:01,700 --> 01:37:02,080 All in favor? 1081 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:03,620 None on this one. 1082 01:37:03,620 --> 01:37:04,700 outside 1083 01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:11,330 City Limit, waterway adjustment proposal? 1084 01:37:12,590 --> 01:37:24,350 Yes sir, we had an old timing rate structure then back in the, I think it was in the 70s when the cities had to provide water service outside the City Limit. 1085 01:37:24,350 --> 01:37:31,330 primarily up on therapy drives going north, there was a differential of just maybe a few 1086 01:37:31,330 --> 01:37:38,450 dollars and then over the last 30 or 40 years when the city would take a 5%, 10%, or 15% 1087 01:37:38,450 --> 01:37:47,830 rate increase, that differential grew from $14.03, the inside minimum rate to $31.48. 1088 01:37:49,250 --> 01:37:55,270 What we'd like to say or what we would recommend to the council is use the same differential 1089 01:37:55,270 --> 01:38:02,270 that the Board of County Commissioners has authorized on sewer, which is 130%, and that 1090 01:38:02,270 --> 01:38:11,270 would reduce that $31.48 down to $18.24, and then the additional usage would still be built 1091 01:38:11,270 --> 01:38:12,190 if we need one. 1092 01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,720 Can I get a motion to? 1093 01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:19,260 No back motion to the security duration for the raid? 1094 01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:20,740 Sir, motion is second. 1095 01:38:20,860 --> 01:38:21,120 All in favor? 1096 01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:23,360 To none, it's four. 1097 01:38:26,330 --> 01:38:29,410 A change order, recommendation for Paulster Hills 1098 01:38:29,410 --> 01:38:31,310 and Woodstraw's sanitary sewer, Dan? 1099 01:38:31,730 --> 01:38:32,190 Yes, Mayor. 1100 01:38:32,430 --> 01:38:34,050 This is only a recommendation. 1101 01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:36,610 This is actually a Catoosa County project 1102 01:38:37,390 --> 01:38:41,590 that will be ours once it is completely finished 1103 01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:43,170 and inspected and accepted. 1104 01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:49,050 However, it has been customary that the Board of County Commissioners, since it is quote, 1105 01:38:50,010 --> 01:38:56,910 see the funds with the squash they like for us to make a recommendation to accept the change order. 1106 01:38:57,450 --> 01:39:01,910 This is pretty much, we hope to be a final change order as well. 1107 01:39:01,910 --> 01:39:22,210 and it's a $231,227.61 change order bringing the total to $1,637.01, $1,637,271.51, and it will also increase the counter day by 123 days. 1108 01:39:22,210 --> 01:39:28,570 This was recommended by our sewer director, Mark Vaughn, and he's also been working with 1109 01:39:28,570 --> 01:39:32,390 the contractor along with Crystal Thomas, the party to know the story. 1110 01:39:34,940 --> 01:39:36,000 Have you approved this plan? 1111 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,700 I have a motion to approve the change plan. 1112 01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:39,080 Can I? 1113 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,880 Well, let me get a second, and if there's a second, we'll discuss it. 1114 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:44,220 Or did you want to change it? 1115 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:45,940 We have an issue with your original motion. 1116 01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:46,200 Yeah. 1117 01:39:46,420 --> 01:39:46,700 Please. 1118 01:39:47,380 --> 01:39:49,460 Would you please add to your motion. 1119 01:39:49,460 --> 01:40:03,120 And you move to approve, how do I say this, based on producer counties signing off of this. 1120 01:40:03,700 --> 01:40:09,940 In other words, we're approving this before the county commission has approved for this. 1121 01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:16,760 Yes, I'm moving to approve, okay, move to approve our recommendation that they follow through with this. 1122 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:27,480 As long as we only do this, as long as family agree, if they agree. 1123 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:28,900 Okay, go ahead. 1124 01:40:28,900 --> 01:40:30,700 You seem like we're going in front of them. 1125 01:40:30,980 --> 01:40:31,460 But, okay. 1126 01:40:31,820 --> 01:40:32,940 Do you have a motion there? 1127 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:33,940 I have. 1128 01:40:34,260 --> 01:40:35,600 I'm sorry for the recommendation. 1129 01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:37,060 Okay, let me, I'm sorry. 1130 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:37,760 Let me just be sure. 1131 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:43,100 This is a motion to send a recommendation. 1132 01:40:44,180 --> 01:40:44,540 Correct. 1133 01:40:44,540 --> 01:40:54,480 It's just a recommendation, because if you look at the owner name, it's Catoose County and the contractor is Mace Construction, so we can only recommend it to the board. 1134 01:40:54,880 --> 01:41:00,300 Okay, a motion is taken to send this recommendation to the county, on a paper. On a paper. 1135 01:41:00,940 --> 01:41:02,640 On a board 1136 01:41:05,940 --> 01:41:08,880 board treatment plan, chemical feeding and storage improvements contract. 1137 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:16,900 Yes sir, we have a representative here from Taines, Allegra. Mr. Gray Johnson in the back, I think he was the author of Reduction. 1138 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,160 Is that how I want you to say it? 1139 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:29,360 And you know, we graduated from high school together, so I think we should make him come to the podium. 1140 01:41:33,820 --> 01:41:41,200 All seriousness, or being serious about this, we did go out to rebad and was able to lower 1141 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:49,040 the total price of almost $40,000 and get some additional services because teams came to play 1142 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,540 with any local contractor we're proud that they did. 1143 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,740 They've done members jobs over the years. 1144 01:41:55,380 --> 01:42:03,540 Not particularly this kind of work, but for those of you that are not aware, they do a lot of work for B.K.B. and that's real testing. 1145 01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:06,520 So they have all the skills in the world. 1146 01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:16,860 We make them build our engineer and carry high power, and all of it seems like they've lost some excellent funds to the table. 1147 01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,360 And I think we'll wind up with a good project. 1148 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:27,080 We really need to move forward, so we've got that $86,000 worth of debt forgiveness that's on the hook. 1149 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:36,040 Now we've got a firm promise we will go back and see if we might be able to get another couple of dollars since the budget price moves up a little bit. 1150 01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:43,860 I move we award the Water Treatment Plan Chemical Healing and Storage Improvement to contracts 1151 01:42:43,860 --> 01:42:50,540 to team members, teams of, can I get a second? 1152 01:42:50,820 --> 01:42:51,260 Thank you. 1153 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,660 I have a motion and a second. 1154 01:42:53,900 --> 01:42:54,420 All in favor. 1155 01:42:55,440 --> 01:42:55,960 You know what I'm just for? 1156 01:42:56,580 --> 01:42:58,320 Do we have anything for executive session? 1157 01:43:02,700 --> 01:43:03,920 Mr. Mayer, all in favor. 1158 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:04,600 We adjourn. 1159 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:05,480 Motion to adjourn. 1160 01:43:05,580 --> 01:43:05,760 Second. 1161 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:06,940 All in favor.