Oh, are you ready?
Okay, I have seven o'clock. I'd like to call in to order.
Thank you.
I would like to see the indication.
You work with staff.
I was thinking that I would think that if you're always
continue to not be so grateful for the fact
that we live in a free nation, that we can sit down
and be there people in the community,
look at our meetings, and watch our wishes,
and hopefully discuss all of this.
In my good order, we ask you to give us wisdom,
give us judgment, and give us fairness
that we go through this.
And we thank you again for all the pleas
that you've done our work.
Please, please, comment on the next one.
I'm glad that it is a goodbye from the United States of America
and a good reminder for all of your fans,
one nation under all and invisible,
Yes, I have a couple of changes to the agenda, please.
I move that we move Old Business Item A. I propose method on 20 Joe Chandler. Mr. Chandler signed up to be moved to
I moved to number three, Citizens Comments and start off our discussion in Citizens Comments.
I also moved as part of the motion as to remove Council Comments to the public just prior to the public hearings at the end of Citizens Comments.
Okay, I have a motion to move all business item A to Citizens Comments and Council Comments to public just after Citizens Comments.
Can I get a second?
motion and second all in favor unanimous for kind
of get a motion to approve the
consent agenda. So moved. Second motion and second all in favor unanimous for and
we will
move the citizens comments. Mr. Chandler did fill out a form to be on that so we would
like to start with you and then a few specific people did ask to speak and we'll go through
that list also, but Mr. Chandler, welcome to come up.
I'm going to introduce just so that everyone knows, everyone has five minutes on each topic
and the people on the council, that's what's written into our charter, just so everyone
knows. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, go ahead. Yes, name and address as you come to the podium, please.
My name is Joel Schammer. I'm 10 years old. I'm 25, 7 years old.
I think breakfast is morning at Richardson.
I was looking out in the parking lot.
I was looking for a hotel house.
I noticed the ladies walking their morning walk
doing their morning job.
And, uh,
I'll tell you how to remind me of why I moved to Mexico 40 years ago.
My wife and I have been married for over one year.
We were living in New York.
And, uh, come down here,
once I met you straight off, I had a shot around you.
I was real lucky.
So much so I went home,
I said, I'm going to talk to some more leaders in the ring, you know, as a lawyer.
That's the kind of big talk I'm going to do.
The moral comes to those who conduct tonight there's an old farmhouse,
there's an afternoon party that doesn't let you go,
and within here it seems the corporation fan.
There's a lot of disciplines.
They're talking in the morning, it's going to go loud,
I don't know if we can have them out, I don't know if we can stop them.
I'm going to go for this thing.
I've already went to Chicago here by a year ago.
She had never been out of rainbow.
She saved my weekend.
She got my home.
She's about 30.
She said that, she said,
But I got to find out how almost nothing I'm interested in right now.
That's how I feel about this thing.
And anything that would disrupt
or waste my life is a matter for the sun.
There's a proposed clinic to go into.
I've done a little research on it.
The biggest thing is that, you
know, I want my daughter to be able to continue to come to Ringo and move her jogging and her walking.
Listen to her thinking, all right.
I want the middle school kids and the high school kids to be able to continue to walk to Ringo and her children.
They don't have the child's house anymore, but they do have some places that they can go and come again.
The part of their lives that will be with them, we all know
that things come up and there's not every battle that can be fought.
If you thought we'd continue to go through play where you'll be aware of me,
but sometimes
there's something that comes up that is worth fighting.
We like or what it's like here.
We don't want something to cause a major disruption to that life.
The council has done so many good things since the party.
I mean, it's just...
And I've got a petition here on some folks that signed it down, my store, saying basically
that they're not in favor for this thing to be worth saying.
I understand these people need some help, but there's already three clinics where they
mile to this part of the whole side. They're open every day, seven days a week. They're
not turning the people away.
This will be located within 3,500 yards through the three
mile.
Church, right down the road, okay? There you go. A lot of stuff right across
It's not needed and it's on.
Thank you.
The list that I have,
the list that I have, if it's okay with everyone I'm just going to go straight down from the top to the bottom.
If someone would like to wait I don't mind allowing that but we have Sheila.
I just like to say first and foremost, I know there's people that are legit and don't really need help.
I also know that there's doctors that over-prescribe the reason these people are on pain medication and what not.
So I want everyone here to know I'm not hoping to put people by the treatment.
What I am opposed to is that I live in Contusa County.
Bringo, if I've done my calculation drive, is about five to nine police officers short.
I understand Sheriff Siss has said that he would come in and help if needed.
If I call 9-1-1 from my home, I want to know that police are on their way, that the county is on their way.
I pay county taxes, so therefore I want to be protected.
I don't think that it's necessary that we shouldn't even have to depend on the county
to kind of help if the situation arises.
If the methadone planning is right, there won't be a problem.
I had a problem with 28 parking spaces.
Once the work gets out that there's a new clinic in town,
You know, they may want to come and try this clinic out.
Where are they going to park?
You know, it's private property,
that'll sweep water plant.
Across the street, it's residential homes,
they're private driveways.
You have a bus that stops within 36 feet
of their front door at 629 AM.
They start dispensing at 6 o'clock.
I'm just worried for the safety on the highway.
I'm worried about the safety of the whole county, but yet again, I'm going to throw out there.
I'm not opposed to treatment. I'm not opposed.
We do have four in 25 mile radius. Why do we need more?
I mean, do we have that many people in Walker and Patucia County that needs that treatment?
These people are coming from Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama.
So they're going to get off down at truck city to come in this way, so they bypass the city.
Nine out of ten probably will.
We already know the construction down first time in the creek, how bad it is.
So I'm just looking out for one, public safety.
And for two, I'm looking out for the tax dollars that I pay.
I won't be able to utilize the 5-cow-9-1-1,
that I don't have to wait for an officer to come from this end of the county to my home.
So that is something to consider that this affects not only your 4,000 residents in Bringo, Georgia that are citizens of the city,
but also the ones of us that live outside the city.
So that will be five minutes, that's what I wanted to say.
Thank you.
Shirley Boe.
I live at age seven, Cherokee Lake Drive in Wrinkle.
I drive past this clinic several times a day.
But instead of me spending my five minutes telling you why I personally don't want this
dispensary located here, I'm going to share some facts with you, facts that I have spent
the last two and a half weeks compiling, facts that I feel are much more compelling
than my emotionally charged feelings.
I have right here in front of me the CAS phenomenon calls for the last four years
for an address, one single address, 4083 Cloud Spring Road.
That is the location of our closest OB achievement facility off the Cloud Spring Road crossroads.
Now this site does not include any number one calls that came from any businesses located around that.
It is strictly the location of the claim. And there are a hundred and twenty eight of them.
10% of them took place in the hours of 12.30 to 5.00 a.m. prior to the clinic opening.
58% of those calls were during dispensing hours, 5.00 a.m. to 10.00 a.m.
32% of those calls were after the dispensing hours, 10.00 a.m. to 9.30 p.m.
40 percent
19% of those calls were for burglary alarm going off in that building, hours right before
dispensing occurs. According to the police, it was individuals who lined up as early as
1 a.m. to start their treatment, and they start pulling in by number of doors. 19% of
those calls were for EMS-related emergencies where patients overdosed or couldn't stay
away half their treatment, still located in the facility or happened to pass out in
parking lot.
The remainder of those calls cover everything from auto accidents, in the parking lot,
fist fights between patients, passing counterfeit money to get their treatment,
assault, theft by taking, as well as several bolos involving vehicles that were wanted
for a hit and run of a child that happened the day before,
and the selling of the pills they had just obtained inside for the military.
Is it any wonder why those of us who live in and around this new proposal patient are worried?
First impressions are everything, and for many of us, our first impressions of this type of facility
are what we've seen and we've heard with regards to the other facilities in our area,
not in other cities, but right here in our area.
There are four dispensaries all ready within a 20-mile radius of this proposed location.
I had the opportunity to meet with a local professional who's in this industry.
He stated that the facility on Cloud's front-throwing has more patients than the city of our involved has registered voters.
And 95% of the patients come from outside.
set. So why is there a need for a fit? Is it so that we can take care of patients that
dumpers out in our area and live in other states?
There are almost 2400 students that
will be attending school less than one mile from this proposed facility's location. Not
to mention the students catching bus 39 that pick up directly across the street within
the feet of the parking lot at 629, which is during distancing hours, and may have
pleasure to be able to see some of these incidents that I've just tried happening right at the road.
My last client is the petition I wish to submit on behalf of 878 individuals who do not agree
with the location of this clinic. I have a copy of their signatures and their comments that I'm
presenting to you.
I do not feel this clinic is needed in this area. It's going to place
undue stress on an already limited fire and police department not to mention a
traffic issue it will create given a limited number of parking spaces
belonging to the facility. Cars will be everywhere as I recently witnessed when I
went and observed another facility located on Rossville Park. With planned good parking,
the majority of the cars were still illegally parked as well as parked in
and all the so-called, or kind of finding interesting,
vacant buildings around this place.
In the past few weeks, I've learned more about this topic
than I ever imagined I would,
but I believe that when you feel strongly about something,
you step up and you fight for it.
I appreciate your time this evening,
and I hope that each of you
are doing all that you can do to investigate this matter
and keep this clinic from opening in the location.
And thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, come on here.
And when I sort of control it, we'll talk a little bit more
about the personal impact on patients.
That's what I mean.
I mean, there's kind of a presentation that centers around how
we're going to provide for the care of these specific individual patients
as well as how we're going to better control the impact
on the people of practice.
I guess we have the genealogy of opioid abuse
in the treatment.
I'm just hearing from the bag that they're heading out of here.
You're so tall.
All right, yeah.
Hey, so I'm going to talk a little bit about this.
And just say, I'm working on it.
Because I'm not very fortunate.
I'm more certified in a couple of specialties,
not so much a standard medicine practice
than I've grown in 20 years.
And I also went and did that a couple of years ago.
And I was trained and became more certified
in addiction medicine, specifically
the rest of the time, because we're discussing
about one of the main topics, obviously,
of medication medicine, so I'm going to be able to hear what it is.
And preparation for making that exam a couple of years ago,
I read a chapter in our main text, which is,
it's about train physician medicine physicians,
and they've talked a couple of times about that,
some of the genealogists, so we go back and forth
about individual efficacy versus operation-based
medication medicine doctors.
And this one particular chapter where we start to make
There's a ton of reason for it, and it still lets you meet the importance of meditation and assisted treatment.
Others really didn't represent what they'd like to say in their community perspective.
If I go get a population that doesn't have availability of a well-run and professionally motivated meditation-assisted treatment program,
where that population is at risk of several things,
that the operation has access to that,
not the other one.
And the whole thing, they're kind of like returns,
but there's things that you all would want to fight.
I have an official substitute program nearby
that's called on crime decreases in that community.
So, I mean, that's not even another self-assessment
that you make.
I have another clinic.
I have West Brown children that are going
in the school close by, when there was many things to deal with in that, in that, in that specific geographic area.
In addition to that, there's a couple of other, a couple of weird things that go with it, and a topic that goes on with it.
And I'll note that I've tried to use it as part of the computer epidemic and associated with that,
that has been chosen in the financing, huge burdens,
individual statements from the U.S. public health
and the nation, and in another doubt,
our mediation has been treated appropriately as available,
but in terms of age, I would like to see it also be
resisting if you could understand the needs of
the U.S. health care population with less crime
and as a result of that, I think it's a great
success we need to draw into the law of the country.
I mean, I wasn't able to write that yet,
So, I just want to be able to appreciate the benefits that have been looked so obviously
in a part of my school, but that have a huge impact on individual wellbeing and the community
who are willing to step back and say, hey, this has a bigger effect than they did in
to have an opportunity that's going to be so well-ground and incredible, in the management
of that.
I'm going to talk a little bit about the ownership of this.
If you have any credible opportunities to make,
if I were to go for a short piece
of what I said, I'm not going to sit here and say, well, you have an opportunity
And if you provide a service that will make this as important as you can do it, and by understanding the difference of the negative associations or something, it's not a difficult one to bring to the floor.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that.
That was about four years ago, and the state needs to be
prepared for it.
I would like for people to be able to say, yes, there are
things that are not available in the country,
but I would like to say that this is a very good task.
And I would call on providing excellent care for the
community and the staff that are being able to do that
and make people want to do the other part of the
life in the community efforts to have a healthier
life in the country.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Vanessa Ruhlman.
There's been twenty-one shifts in a circle.
That's right.
At least we already have a problem.
Three shifts?
Yes.
We're all close.
We have found out the hard way up here.
Yes.
You have to be funny.
Yes.
You have someone on the back who continues having a can of beer.
Okay.
I'm Vanessa Rolden.
I'm a nurse on a registered addiction specialist,
and I'm the owner of Wrinkle Treatment Center.
I want to start out by clarifying we are not a drughouse,
nor are we just a methadone clinic.
We are a complete medication-assisted treatment program.
We provide medical services, individual group, and family counseling,
as well as assistance with social service needs that our patients might require.
We do not sell and dispense medication on our program.
We provide a complete range of services in order to help those who are in use disorder achieve long-term recovery.
I would like to let the community know the type of program that we intend to run.
At first, I want to say that this is a privately owned facility.
This means that we have the ability to set the tone for patients who want to participate in our program.
We live in this community. We drive on the same roads that you drive on.
Our kids go to the same schools that your children go to.
The last thing that we want is to have a negative impact.
To that end, we are going to work with the community to address any concerns
that you may have up front as well as on an ongoing basis.
As an example of this, we have heard some of the safety concerns
for garden school bus stop and for our facility.
To address this, we have incorporated a school bus safety training into our new patient orientation
to bring patient's attention to this and to also go over bus stops, bus stop laws.
This program that is highly regulated at the state and federal level and we follow
strict internal policies and procedures to ensure that we are helping us effective by
open addiction while at the same time having a positive impact on our community.
Before anyone is even admitted into our program, they are put in a very intense screening process
to determine if they are an eligible candidate. The purpose of this is not only to determine
if the medication-assisted treatment is the best treatment in modality, but also determine
if the individual is entering treatment for the right reasons. We will not accept individuals
who we see as a risk to our community, and we will not allow individuals to remain
in treatment if we determine that they are abusing treatment or otherwise putting the
community at risk by not following our program rules. We have met with other owners of several
programs that operate with a similar mindset to ours and we have found that the community
most often does not even know that these programs exist in their own community. We understand
that there are some concerns and we are going to do our best to address those concerns.
We plan on holding an open house, and we encourage anybody, citizens, council members,
anybody to attend and learn more about medication-assisted treatment,
as well as to understand the type of program that we intend to run.
Thank you.
Thank
you.
Jonathan Cobb?
My name is Jonathan Cobb.
I'll fix this before it gets too far in here.
And it's a name and address.
My name is Jonathan Cobb.
My address is 200 Georgetown Drive in Regal.
I am the new chairman of the Libertarian Party of Northwest Georgia, so hopefully you can see a little bit more of it in the future.
We are concerned about this not only as citizens of Ringle, but also having done our research and educated ourselves
on what methadone clinics, as they're called, medication-assisted treatment facilities bring to the communities that they bring.
There's a study done by the University of California in San Francisco that shows the crime actually drops in most areas where there will run.
We also have a study done by the University of Maryland that says the exact same thing.
The University of California in San Francisco also did a separate study that shows that in the long run medical assisted treatment actually helps better than 188 detox programs do.
Personally, I am a four-year-old and a two-year-old, both boys and beautiful young men.
And whenever I left the Navy a year ago, I chose to come back to Ringgold.
I could have stayed in San Diego, I could have been anywhere, but I came here because I love this area.
I would never do anything that I didn't believe would put them in harm.
My son goes to Ringgold Primary School and hopefully one day he'll be here at Ringgold High School.
and I hope that this clinic is still up and running
and he doesn't even know it's there
whenever he's less than, as it said, three miles away from.
But on the other side of this, we all see crime going up.
We all see this in Florida, Georgia, Tennessee.
We see crime going up because of opioid abuse.
I feel like we're kind of holding both sides of the coin here
and neither side is helping.
Nobody wants to help.
We want to put these guys in jail, we want to spend our tax dollars on putting them in prison,
we want to spend our tax dollars on enforcing more and more crime related to opioid abuse,
but then we want to have meetings like this to try to stop them getting the more treatment in some of these areas.
Yes, we have other treatment facilities in this area, and like they said, they're closed.
Whether it's out of state or there's not out of state, we have a lot of people here in
Catoose County that still need help. Some of them can't make it to those clinics,
because some of them are so bad off on opioids, especially prescription painkillers,
that they don't have cars, they don't have transportation.
They don't have a lot of these things to get here.
Just a few days ago we had people called out because there was some people who were some
not so great characters at the corner of Graysville Road and 41.
It's the same situation every day.
We see it every day around us and I understand that we want to take care of our people, we
want to take care of everything.
But we also need to worry about theses, we need to take care of theses and educate
ourselves.
I've heard a lot of people bring up petitions.
The reason why this came to our light was because we were asked to sign one of those petitions.
And in none of the material that we were presented to sign these petitions, was there any kind of education?
Was there any kind of real substance to why we should not want this?
It was all fear.
Well, if you don't sign this, more crimes are going to come to the area.
If you don't, that was the tactic that was brought about.
So we kind of looked at it kind of skeptically.
So I just wanted to take a minute and say that I believe that this is a great thing for the community.
If it's running correctly, then run them out of town afterwards, whatever you want to do.
But at this point, I think you are accusing people of a crime that hasn't been committed.
You're assuming that somebody's going to do something wrong, instead of giving them the chance to do something right.
And I think that's a travesty against the citizens of this county, and especially in Singapore.
Appreciate your time.
Thank you.
Hello everyone. I have not attended to speak tonight, but it's just on my heart, and I've
got to.
I have no problem with treatment, people that have cancer and treatment, people
with those good addictions and treatment.
But what I'm saying on my profession
is that it's not what's happening in my case.
And before I talk about other people's families,
I need to address the audience.
If anybody in here has family members,
they just passed away from my mother down there.
Okay, so my nephew, when he passed away,
he bought it on the streets.
Well, it wasn't on the streets,
It was in a mall in North Carolina.
He'd never taken it before.
There's no what it would do.
My nephew was a hardened drug addict.
He had no reason to fear.
And he took it, and I buried him.
He was my baby.
I had custody of him when he was a teenager
and when he got old enough, he went back to Florida
so I couldn't control him.
But what I'm saying is that opening up more clinics
in the state of Georgia
is like putting a band-aid on the laceration.
Now why am I saying that?
I'm saying that because the river, the evil,
is over prescribing of opiates.
People that truly desire and need treatment
can get anywhere.
We don't have to open up more clinics.
I have concerns because there is a step.
There is an order of things
before you can open up a treatment clinic.
To begin with, you have to have your federal regulations.
You have to have your federal approvals before you go to the state
and before you start treatment of food.
So that has me some great concerns.
Great concerns.
But at the same time, all my cases that come back,
y'all know that 98% of the corner cases are coming back as overdoses. Now let me
tell you, methadone for the past two years has been in the mix for the direct
cause. Now once is happening because there are clinics, I'm not accusing these
folks of wrongdoing, that there are clinics that are selling it for a dollar a
It is a pretty good fact now, Dr. Carter, that methadone is not the choice to treat opioid addiction.
So what I'm saying is that if they're going to offer other treatment plans other than methadone,
if they're not going to sell it for a dollar apiece, if they're going to do everything they say they're going to do,
then I don't have a battle with them.
I am a family member of a child that overdosed because there are clinics that didn't sell
it and it does get on the street and I'm having to tell families almost on a daily basis that
their family member passed away because they got ahold of methadone on the street.
When this first started, the American with Disabilities Act was to protect people that
did have open addictions. It's not to protect people to come in and threaten if they don't
open their clinics. The laws have not been changed very much since 1999. On top of that,
there are other treatment modalities like I have stated other than the methadone. Methadone
is very unstable. It repeats within a 48-hour period. People that take methadone and they're
used to it, if they take it, they think, well, I don't feel this, so they'll turn around and take another.
Putting more methadone on the street is not the answer.
We need to look at trying to control the doctors that are over prescribing the opiates.
There are plenty of treatment facilities.
I would like to see for them to have to step up to the plate for themselves.
And if they can't put themselves, then it's best to have some other people come in and try to do the job.
And I know this is a harsh road to follow, but you know, people just have no speakers
and I don't know if there's anybody in this room that doesn't know somebody or have a family member
that doesn't have an opportunity to meet someone.
I also change and y'all know that.
And my students tell me a lot of stuff that goes on inside.
Not these folks because they haven't opened up yet.
that I do now have students that go to the other clinics in a tremendous way to tell me.
Thank you.
Leslie?
No, okay, so...
That's why I halfway filled it out.
Okay, okay.
Zach Talbot?
Thanks.
My name's Zach Talbot.
My address is 55, and I go to Langford Sharks.
And the reason I've come up here today, for one, is because
I'm standing in front of you today as a successful person, a healthy person because of methanome treatment.
I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for that treatment.
I tried many non-medication assisted treatments first and continually relapsed.
Yeah, there are...
It's hard for me to even think of where to start because if you look at any credible authorities on this issue,
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has not changed their positions.
The Methadone Maintenance Treatment is the, quote, most effective treatment for opiate addiction.
They have not recent that statement that's still their position.
The National Institutes of Health, our own National Institutes of Health in their consensus panel on opiate addiction,
has deemed Methadone Maintenance Treatment the, quote, gold standard treatment.
When treatment centers come into community, crime goes down, drug overdose death rates
go down.
These are facts.
The National Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA, they've got a compilation of all the research
of the past half century around this medication.
When methadone overdose death rates have gone up, we have seen that.
And so when the federal authorities looked into the reason these methadone death
rates have gone up, the vast majority of methadone in those cases can't be
back that they were coming from private prescriptions, from pain clinics, from not from opiate treatment
programs. That is an established fact. Patients, I had to go to the center every day and take
my medication in front of a nurse. I wasn't taking it out. I didn't have a chance to
sell it on the street. The federal regulations prohibit that until you have reached stability
and recovery and have passed multiple drug screens and have participated in individual
counseling and group therapy, you're not taking any medication out of that center.
And so I would just encourage the community to not look at the stigma and the hysteria,
but to look at the established facts. This is the face of methadone treatment.
I'm now an alcohol abuse counselor and a very successful person.
I'm a graduate student because of this treatment.
There are undoubtedly some bad treatments, or some bad treatment centers.
That's true for any medical treatment that is not unique to this mentality.
But this is a solution. We're in an opioid addiction and overdose epidemic.
And the facts are, if you looked at the National Institute of Drug Abuse,
the White House Office on National Drug Control Policy,
when methadone dispensing appropriately comes into a community
overdose death rates and drug-related crime go down. That is a fact. And so I
just encourage the town and the community, you've got people in front of you
that are wanting to run a reputable center. Federal approval does not come
first. You go to the state first. That's a fact. You can check with the state of
Georgia. You apply with the state first. The state's already approved this
facility they're licensed and so again I'm not sure at this point what can really
be done to stop it from opening but I would count my blessings that you don't
have one of these dollar a day centers trying to open in your community you
have locals that are going to run a private facility and they want to involve
the community and they want to do this the right way so just consider and
remember the face of people like me these aren't junkies in my alley
This is, according to CDC, the most effective treatment for this epidemic that we're currently
facing.
This is most opioid-addicted people's best hope for recovery.
It certainly was mine because all the other treatments that we keep hearing about failed
me and they failed many others time and time again.
Methanone saves lives.
Thank you.
Shannon Campbell.
I'm Shannon Campbell.
I live 32 Springwood Drive, Maryland.
I've actually lived here for about a year.
I'm from Chicago, Tennessee.
I moved to Carrollton for a while to get my Ph.D. in psychology.
And a lot of my focus has been on holistic health
and the use of natural psychoactives for psychotherapy,
as opposed to my dissertation in particular,
is focused on opioids and visit asopines.
One of the things that haven't been addressed, as a matter of fact,
is the concern with tele-drug use,
especially with my children's clinics.
I actually have two daughters,
so I'm speaking as a mother as well,
14-year-old and nine-year-old.
I think my biggest issue with this clinic,
like a lot of people said,
I think especially clinics that are well-run
is not a bad thing,
but the location of my daughter's home
is so close to the school.
My daughter's already told me
about a number of cases with family.
She's like, man, there's so many kids
that have told me they've done this and that,
and this and that, and she gets nervous.
And she knows a little bit about my research,
and she's like, mom, why don't they
have an alternative, so I'm like,
it's just not well known, you know,
it's an unfortunate part of it,
but I'm slowly but surely, before,
I guess you could say, from perspective
on how to use medicinal plants is growing,
but it's still coming, and I think
we should just really appreciate, you know,
the, how should I say, like,
Pizzadazopines are probably the most common, but alcohol,
so we have tons of pharmacies,
it's not as many bars around here,
but there's still opportunities to go to liquor stores,
and a lot of these issues,
especially with overdose, come up with applied drug use.
As a matter of fact, they just came out
with a black box warning about even patients
who are prescribed opioids
and in the pizzadazopines together,
especially in things like Xanax,
end up having overdose issues and death.
So I think that, you know, hopefully there'll be some consideration, you know, about the
location as well as how it may influence down the road alcohol consumption as well as,
you know, the shopping behavior of these people, some of them anyway, can be pretty
rampant.
They go from pharmacy to pharmacy, doctor to doctor, and there's people driving from
in Kentucky and other places, you know,
there's no telling to what degree they would be shopping around.
And like some people mentioned,
it's not in some of these methadone doses.
Hopefully the clinic is running well, it won't be an issue,
but you know, like I said, as a mother,
it concerns we're just a little bit.
I think one of the biggest percentages I've found
in my research is 51% of methadone patients
use benzodiazepines to get that high back.
And that's a huge number, a huge number of people.
I don't know how many who would go to these clinics would be.
It would be good to have statistics on that, for sure.
But please be consistent.
I consider it about how it can affect a number of people and what can be brought into the city,
especially when it comes to the kids and any kind of drug abuse violations.
Thank you.
Joy and Jessie Thornton.
Hi,
I'm Joy Thornton.
I live at 533rd Spark Street right now in the high school.
I have a business right down the street here on Tennessee Street.
Actually, my husband and I have two businesses there.
My, my, I was brought, this was brought to my attention, I guess I lived in my little
junket world and didn't realize it was getting ready to open right across the street from
me.
And I, it was brought to my attention by some phone calls.
And so then the Kansas County newspaper called me and asked me, you know, why they
had understood I had spoken out loud on Facebook and were in my opinion.
And in my opinion, in the newspaper, it quotes me as saying that people are concerned, meaning
local ring old people, are concerned about drugs, drug users, drug abusers, and drugies,
I said, being in the neighborhood and just being there, standing in line, waiting to
get in and choosing to roam around town and do as they choose to do.
And because I was quoted as saying that, I was cursed.
The lady went on the Facebook page and cursed me for saying that that I was concerned.
So that's the kind of people who I saw, I see as being pro-this clinic.
people who will call me an uneducated ignorant bad word just because I said
local people are concerned about drug users being in the neighborhoods. So that
even made me more concerned. Then I got a phone call from a gentleman who lives
in Jamestown, Tennessee, which just happens to be where I grew up and he
got my phone number and called me to ask me how in the world do you have
the audacity to say that Methanone Clinic is bad. And I said, excuse me, who is this?
He told me his name and I vaguely remember someone by that name being in high school around
the same time I was. I don't live in James Town, Tennessee. I live in Ringgold, Georgia,
where people ask me where you're from. I say I'm from Ringgold, Georgia now and that's
where I'm from. I live here. All my well-being is here. My grandchildren go to the schools
here. My husband grew up here. So I'm concerned about Ringgold, Georgia. So I said, why do
you care, Jackie, if Ringgold, Georgia gets a clinic? Don't you still live in Jamestown,
Tennessee? He said, yes, I do. And I bought, I bought Harrowland and I bought Morphing
Morphing on the streets of Fentress County, but I drive to Georgia
Once a month to get my methadone
I drive to Georgia now a hundred and forty miles
Once a month to get my methadone
So it's not the people of gatoosa County that the clinic think it's a county or helping per se
It's people a hundred and forty miles away in
in Fentress County, Tennessee, and in Florida, and in Alabama, and in South Carolina,
coming here to get their drugs.
That's my concern about it.
When we have karate kids running up and down the streets doing their training,
we have kids getting on buses and walking to school.
I have a business here.
There's businesses over here that are going to be affected by this.
I don't even know if the little family, the Spanish-speaking family
that lives across the street from the methadone clinic and realizes that there are going to
be people lined up in the parking lot when they're out there and they're swimming pooling
in front of y'all. That's why I'm concerned about it. Thank you for your time. Thank
you.
Just you're on here. Did you want to?
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. As you
all know, I grew up here in Ringgold and I devoted my life to Ringgold. I've had
opportunities to move to different countries to teach martial arts but I
chose to stay here because someone reached out and helped me and gave me a
chance and to see that you know I understand this clinic is here to to
give somebody a chance to change their life like this young man over here. How
many have you seen change their life like that? We have kids every single
day, run up and down these streets, training to make their black blood.
We have kids running around the nature's trail over here.
We have them running by Kentucky Fried Chicken, over in Blovey, up by the high school.
All over this city, and to bring this into our city, I really feel like it's a really
bad situation to be a part of.
And look at the people that have migrated to KJUCCA and Ringo because of the things that are going on in Chattanooga and in Dawson.
You know, people in Chattanooga have moved to Ringo because they feel like this is one of the safest cities that they can move to.
Yes, we have our, you know, we have our share of property just like any city does.
But we've got an awesome council here that really may bring those stand-on-the-mout.
People see, people want to come to Reno because they know that they can be safe.
Look at all these older people that are right walking every single night.
You didn't ever, you know, you wouldn't see that in Chattanooga.
You wouldn't see that in Dalton because everybody's afraid that they're going to
get jumped.
But if we bring that clinic here, we're going to run into the same problems.
I don't want that clinic to affect my business.
I'm 56 years old.
I've been teaching martial arts here for 42 years.
I'm not going to let that run me out of time.
I love, you know, I respect you all for what you're trying to do and how you're
trying to do it.
but my grandson and my granddaughter, their mother was on this and she went to
the clinic there on Rossville Boulevard just so she could get a high and you know
I said I'm not gonna take you there just for that she said well if I don't get it
there I gotta go get it somewhere else and
so to me when a person just
specifically speaks out and say that's why I'm going you
look in and you
tell me what you think.
And, you know, it's a shame that their own mother can't
raise them because of this stuff, you know. But I thank God that they're my
grandchildren, that our grandchildren, so that they have a chance in life because
they're not going to be exposed to that. We're going to raise these kids the right way.
That's why I speak so much about the Lord here at our school and how we
We should carry each other and protect each other.
And that's the way I feel about our whole community, you know?
You put your life on the line every day in the law enforcement.
You know, you guys are going to be offered your life on the line for this season.
And I ask you, you said, can you go home at night and lay down and sleep without worrying
about all the stuff coming in in the season?
and these people that are driving 150 miles are frozen.
I mean, why can't they go to these other clinics?
There's four already here.
Probably the way up to have one right here.
I wouldn't mind if they moved it somewhere else,
but not here in the city of Ringo.
Thank you.
I went four, 15, 10 while it was out of here,
Mary Wilton said,
I've got 25 years in education background,
assistant principal, athletic director, school teacher,
also 15 years in law enforcement,
who's our deputy with sheriff's department.
Several comments that I'm hearing,
we don't want that here, we don't want that coming here.
It's already here.
The director already in your camp,
Working as a consultant for some sort of director of security for some clinics, and what I'm
going to call effectively run programs, chiefs of police, sheriffs of the county, encourage
their drug units to go by and actually get cards to hand out as effective treatment
for votes because, unlike a lot of other substance abuses, abstinence does not work for a large
percentage of opioid addiction. And that's, again, it goes back to the chemistry of what
happens with the actual narcotic itself. And most of the deaths that we have seen,
And you know, we're in one of 14 counties that's the, and you're going to see this,
the second highest opioid death rates in the nation per capita.
And, you know, we've, so it's been something, you know, why is that all of a sudden happening
about five to seven years ago?
There was a big push to close all the pain pill clinics.
pain clinics, a lot of pain doctors, pain clinics that made it more difficult to get from a pain
doctor in opioids, which is then why you had a influx for the first time in 20 years, a
heroin epidemic, because it was cheaper to get and easier to get, because you never
offered an effective treatment to take the place of what they were addicted to. And
And so what we saw in our county, we were, while we were celebrating the law enforcement,
that we shut down all the pain-filled mills, we call them, in our town, and in our county,
we didn't offer anything of an effective treatment to take into place.
And so now what we started seeing was Ivy Heron used backup on the rise for the first
time, like I said, in over 20 years.
And so, a lot of our overdose deaths have come, and again, statistically talking in the law enforcement circle, a lot of the death rates in the overdoses is not just methadone that's in their system.
And again, doing research of a lot of the science that your body affects, it's mixing those other drugs that they're buying off the street with the methadone that they're buying off the street,
or that they're buying off, you know, that they're getting from, you know, a pain doctor.
And unfortunately, they're getting from their primary care physician.
So it's not the junkies that we see in the movies like we see in the New York movies
where they're in the back alleys and making their drug deals.
These are professionals that are going to their primary care physician.
getting a script, and because they've had a long history with that doctor, they're continuing
to increase their script.
You know, that's just not working for me right now.
On personal knowledge of a person, the chief of staff of a hospital that's also a primary
care physician was prescribing so many pain pills to a patient that a local
mom-and-pop pharmacy wasn't able to fill the prescription for the must-supply.
This was a cheapest stack of a hospital. So again, it's not, oh my gosh, the drugs
are coming in off the street. They're gonna be coming to Ringo and bringing
drugs. The drugs are already in your community and talking to several law
enforcement officers where a new treatment center has opened up. Like I
said, they are the ones that are encouraging people. They start noticing,
and I think I'm going to quote in a local county around here, the Chuka
police that makes sense now why when we are arresting folks their first words
out of their mouth it's been so hard to find I'm having to do things for
dangerous thank you thank you
that's all that I had on my list we have made it
And change to the agenda.
I believe I got it. I believe I got it. I had it delivered to me. I think we're good.
Was there another song? Please, please, please call.
You're number 13. Are you sure?
Name and address please.
This is Erica Incock from the 6161-way drive.
Excuse me, I didn't attend the speaker, I'm a little nervous, but one of the main concerns
that everyone is speaking about is the safety of their children.
But what about the children that have to go home every day to drive their users?
Do they not get a fair chance to have parents that are drug-free?
I speak with my father.
I was under us when I was growing up and luckily my mother wasn't and my parents divorced and
I was able to live with my mother and I grew up in a very safe home but I have a lot of
memories from things that I've seen from my father and some kids don't have the,
They're not blessed with the fact that they get to grow up in a drug-free home.
So I understand that it is a concern that your kids are running around here with a methadone
clinic right down the road, but there are some kids that they don't get to go home to a drug-free home.
They need to have parents who have an option or resources to get treatment for their safety.
If you're going to think about one set of kids, then you need to think about all the kids.
You need to think about everybody that this can impact, and not just one small set of people.
This is huge. This is a big thing, and this can impact more than just a small group.
And I just think that people need to start considering that.
When you think about safety of kids, you need to be thinking about safety of children
But don't get to go home to say, um, like your children do.
And that's all I need to say. Thank you.
Thank you.
Mayor, can I use my other 10 minutes, but it needs...
Please, I guess I wouldn't have to take a motion from the council today.
You're going to let me...
Oh, that's...
If the mic was taken from the washroom, I would not be there.
I'd be able to show you something, but if the mic is taken from the washroom,
we won't be able to touch that.
If someone would like to make a motion, that would entertain a motion, that's it, no one would like to, I'll move on.
We did move to make the council comments to the public to just under citizens' comments.
So I'd like to start. I have a couple of things I'd like to say.
First off, I want to thank
everyone who came. I don't see anything except passion for our community and for the people
in our community on both sides. And I just really appreciate you coming and speaking
your heart and it fills my heart to see a full courtroom and I just really from the bottom
of my heart want to thank you for coming and sharing with us what you have.
There is a couple of points that I think that it's important to make about what the city's
role is in this process. I know that there's a lot of people arguing for the clinic
and against the clinic and I do want to say that and this is to me is a bigger
issue that is preceded this is the state has such control over this process and
this is an issue that we've been dealing with the state with not just with
this issue in my opinion but there's a lot of things that the city needs to
more control over this being one of them and so and so we are happy that our state delegation
fought so hard to put in a moratorium so that we could at least examine the issue
and if they didn't necessary give local communities the tools they need to better
decide how we want to grow our communities. So they have been receptive to that,
there is a current moratorium and we are diligently working throughout this process to try to make
sure that they do give the cities the tools that they need to be more self-determined whichever
way that might be. And so I did want to share that. As far as the the Lawson's seeing and
permitting goes. That's, unfortunately, because this is handled at the state level, something
that we were not privy to whenever they made their application. It's not something that
they informed the city about. There's a late in the process. They do apply for a business
tax permit. That's just for us to collect the tax from them. But again, I'm looking
forward to what the state of Tennessee, or I'm sorry, the state of Georgia does,
to give us some of the tools that we need.
This application did come in for the moratorium took place and so we have a full
quarter in tonight.
We are diligently, as a city, and this is an important job that we're doing,
we are diligently making sure that they meet all the requirements because
that's one of the things that we're supposed to do.
That's our job as a city, as a city is to make sure that they are meeting
each and every single one of those requirements and we understand the concerns that are brought
up on both sides and I do want you to know that the city and a lot of people are bringing
things to the city for us to look at and we always welcome people within the community
who live and where we can play here, bring things to us so that we can make the most
important decisions that we can. And so that's where we're at right now in this
process, verifying that sort of thing. And then on the back end, really the only
authority that we have is zoning, ensuring that the zoning is enforced.
And they have zoning that they have to meet ahead of time. And also once they
begin operating, they have to comply with the zoning for a medical
facility. That's how it's done. And so that would be the city's role at that point. And
so I wanted to put that information out there to make sure everybody knew where the city
was at, what we're doing, and what our role actually is. I would welcome any comments
from the council that would like to speak.
Thank you. Thank you all for coming and sharing your points of view and I'm sure all of us
on the council will be agreeable to this but I'm going to suggest that the minutes from
that have been shared, the minutes taken from the comments are provided not only to our
Commissioner of Public Health who is actually over the department which license clinics
of this nature.
Commissioner Rees has provided that material, as well as our Senator, Senator Jeff Mullis,
has been working as well as several of our legislative delegations have worked to create
the moratorium and actually the Senator will be chairing the committee that's going to
be working over the next year that we'll be developing the various decisions that
the state will eventually make a politics of this nature and put it to law in the coming
legislative period next spring. But he has shared with me that he's planning on bringing
that committee to Ringgold. I encourage you, but no matter which side of the issue you're
on, when you see that, watch for that, please come and share your views with that committee
because that will have an impact not only in Ringgold but all across the state relating
to these. He has expressed to me that it would come up sometime in the very near future. So
it could be this month, it could be next, but watch your local newspaper, I'm sure they'll
be announcing that when that comes to pass. So I encourage we also share our minutes with
that body, with the state. I want to thank you once again for being here. As far as
the mayor has covered most of our responsibilities, unfortunately our power has given to
us by the state. We're limited to what we can do related to any facility of many different
kinds, but especially in this area, the state has retained the power to make decisions relating
to this. So we have to defer you and encourage you to talk with our friends at the Department
of Public Health and share your concerns with them as well as the governor. We
through overseas that ultimately you can share with either of those offices and I'm sure they
would love to hear from you, no matter which side of the issue you're on. So thank you, Mr. Mayer.
Thank you. Anyone else? Please, Jane.
I'd like to say thank you all. This is an issue that once you start looking at it,
I'm just taking a little bit of drugs on one of the worst things that's here in our company and it's just massive.
Not even massive, the hold that it's got.
I don't have a quick solution. I don't think you think that I have a quick solution.
Well, this is our hometown. Joel mentioned how long you've been here. I think we've been here in Hawaii in our time.
45, 46 years. Wouldn't want to move anywhere else.
We've got things that we have to work with, the laws of the federal government, the state.
These kind of things, that's unfair to see.
On the other side, everybody here has their opinion, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent.
And we're all involved in that opinion.
We're in America.
That's why we have to be able to see it and talk as openly as we have tonight.
I do encourage all of them.
Don't stop at our board level. Go to the state. Get your governor, get your senator. Get all of these people.
And let them know how you feel. Because everyone's a city doctor, they're on the right path in this one.
And hopefully when it comes out, it will be one that we can all get to them.
That it will be one that just got them to us. I can't tell you who will or won't.
But if they send the mandate up here and the vote comes up, you don't have to vote that
way.
So this is your time to get in here and try to change their opinions and give them your
opinions about this.
Drop that cornering slot and make the phone call and say, hey, this is what I want, or
this is what I want.
It looks like you all have your time.
What do you want us to do, Tony?
Please say.
Again, I'd like to thank all of you for coming and I don't want to take up very much time
because it's been said that the city really had no responsibility, no authority in this
area, whether we like it or whether we don't, it was a state issue, it is a state permit.
So, what I'm going to do is just encourage all of you again to come and follow the State
Committee.
Jeff Mullis, who is our Senator, will be actually chairing those meetings during this year when
there will be no clinics opened in Georgia.
And I am hopeful that what comes out of this is standards.
standards that if you're if you're afraid of what comes in standards that we can
then have power as a local community to enforce so again I encourage everybody
to talk to their state representatives to go to those meetings held by Senator
Demolus, hopefully one soon we'll be up here, voice your opinion, but act on that as well.
Say what can we do if the answer is not going to be yes and no, if the answer is going to
be higher standards to meet in order to allow a treatment facility to exist, then I hope
you participate in that process, too, and what would be those standards to keep our children
safe and at the same time allow treatment for drug addiction, right?
Yes, what I would like to do is say thank you for the speaker. I think we heard a wealth
of information from both sides, for and against. Like another side, born and raised here in
when I'm concerned about quality of life.
I think we had some real good issues that came forward
and this file presented to CAD documents
that shows the number of calls.
I know from being the chief at Quilford,
the concern that we had there,
and it's been expressed is the number of cars
that would come in in the wee hours of the morning
and would stay there on the parking lot.
We'd probably have to send those calls for service
for the police department.
So going forward, I share a lot of those concerns because of our community and what I would like to address specifically as I think going forward,
if we see this treatment center open, because each one of us knows that it's the opiate addiction of what we're seeing from the mixing of methadone
And I think one of our speakers briefly touched on the problems of mixing medication and methadone
mixing with the adenzones, which is something that is commonly done, which causes a lot of the deaths.
There are a lot of concerns in this area. There's a lot of good ordinance for and against.
I hope, going forward, if this treatment center opens, that you will have a lot of safe courts
in place, that you will be very responsible. I would encourage you also to look into possibly
having that all night security and that security in those wee hours of the morning is something
I would recommend just to police that parking lot. I think that's a great idea. I would
do that with law enforcement and not just private security. So addiction is a terrible
problem in our country. We see it, but we talked about the medication from the
doctors prescribed the medication over prescribed the medication that we've
seen from hydrocodone, oxygen codone, and we can go on and on and on. So it's a
problem that we have to figure out how going forward as Americans to
effectively deal with that percentage of people that have a problem with
addiction, whatever that addiction is. So thank you. Each one of you, it takes a lot of courage
to come up to that microphone and speak. And I agree with Mr. Chandler that it scares me
also. Thank you.
At this time, I would like to take a five-minute intermission. I know some of you may or may
not want to. Intermission?
Recess.
Recess. Recess. It's not a property word. They're recessed.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
motion to recess can get second motion second on favor and you're welcome to
state for the rest of our meeting if you'd like to go go we're just gonna
take a moment to visit the restrooms
That's what this is.
Well, I'm not so sure.
I'm just waiting for you here.
Thank you.
How do you...
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm going to call on you all, we just want to thank you for joining us today.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
I'll see you in a second.
I'll take a look at that.
Thank you.
Thank you, everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you, everybody.
Thank you.
Can I get a motion to call the meeting back to order, please?
Sorry, wait.
Do I need to wait?
No, wait.
Just a moment.
Shall we move?
Second.
I have a motion to second to come back in session.
All in favor?
I take that as unanimous four.
We are in public hearings.
Were we going to add the notice of the property tax into our public hearings?
It's already advertised, it just didn't get on the discussion.
Okay, so I'm just going to include those.
I'll just take it as I'm being under public hearing.
So item A, William H. Colbury is requesting a variance,
and there were 1,500 square feet for a top one single family detached dwelling
in C1 zone to 850 plus minus square feet,
located at tax map R bug partial 4.
Is there anyone here that would like to speak on this public hearing?
Hearing no one, I'll close the public hearing for that item.
And then I'll open up for our notice of our property tax increase.
This is a tax increase that's about $6 on a $100,000 piece of property for the year.
We have our notes here on 125,000. It would be $7.60.
So if anyone would like to speak on that, I'll leave the floor open for that.
And so I'll close the public hearing on that.
Okay, so we moved a couple of things.
I'm on the new business.
Oh, okay. So we need to, that's right.
I'm developing a public hearing.
So out of my own public hearing, how will the council like to proceed?
Mr.
Mayor, I'll move that we allow this variance that Mr. Copper is required and as stated in
the planning and zoning that this variance, and I think that's our norm, the variance does
not continue should the property owner change, if my memory serves me correctly, so that
should be the case here.
a motion in a second to approve all in favor. You now have a score.
But you did add that with the perception that it's planning the zoning path.
I think that's normal in our case. It's in our planning the zoning phase.
If the property owner changes.
The variance doesn't continue. It dies with the change of property owner.
I was believing that, but I noticed they put it down the plate of his own.
So either way, it's a new
business.
I don't know.
Integral agreement.
I don't think we have to find a separate rate.
Yes, this is the third.
That's okay.
So notice the property tax increase motion to approve.
You see we're at 3.15 mils.
Can I, can I get a motion to that effect?
So, Moody.
A motion, do I have a second?
So, okay.
We've got a motion and a second.
All in favor?
You know what it's for?
We really want to go to your business side of mind now.
But, Intergovernment will agree that
between Cattice Utility District and the city
for relocation of Waterline on Chapman Road
and for the Highway 41 project, yeah?
Yes, there is, of course, Phil.
here if you have any real big questions we'd like to answer. Mainly what we're
doing here is we're adding relocation of a water line that's in conflict with our
new structure that we plan to put on Chapman Road to help with the flooding
issues or the white flooding issues into our contract and it'll be get out
as a separate item so that we'll be able to track what that cost and then
to only have one contractor on the job
rather than multiple contractors.
How do we move the improvement on improvement?
Emotion to approve.
Can I get a second?
Sorry.
Emotion to second.
Alan Baker, T9 School.
Highway 41, Chattanooga Improvement Project
Amendment for Professional Services,
provided by CTI, Dan.
Yes, originally we only approved a contract
for the design and now we're to the point
where Phillip is ready to put that to bed, and this would be not only to cover doing our defense facts
and do the bed and the board's assistance, but also for the construction management
or administration of the project. And that's where if that a contractor has problems,
then you will be able to call Phillip, Phillip or his staff will be able to do inspections to
make sure that we get what we have been after.
This is especially important since this is the DOP project.
And so you're just, in order to move forward,
you're needing a motion that would
say that we're going to amend our budget.
Operate as a lawyer to face the Q and A number one.
We're making a motion.
Thank you, Randall.
Second.
Motion to second.
All in favor?
None on this one.
outside
City Limit, waterway adjustment proposal?
Yes sir, we had an old timing rate structure then back in the, I think it was in the 70s when the cities had to provide water service outside the City Limit.
primarily up on therapy drives going north, there was a differential of just maybe a few
dollars and then over the last 30 or 40 years when the city would take a 5%, 10%, or 15%
rate increase, that differential grew from $14.03, the inside minimum rate to $31.48.
What we'd like to say or what we would recommend to the council is use the same differential
that the Board of County Commissioners has authorized on sewer, which is 130%, and that
would reduce that $31.48 down to $18.24, and then the additional usage would still be built
if we need one.
Can I get a motion to?
No back motion to the security duration for the raid?
Sir, motion is second.
All in favor?
To none, it's four.
A change order, recommendation for Paulster Hills
and Woodstraw's sanitary sewer, Dan?
Yes, Mayor.
This is only a recommendation.
This is actually a Catoosa County project
that will be ours once it is completely finished
and inspected and accepted.
However, it has been customary that the Board of County Commissioners, since it is quote,
see the funds with the squash they like for us to make a recommendation to accept the change order.
This is pretty much, we hope to be a final change order as well.
and it's a $231,227.61 change order bringing the total to $1,637.01, $1,637,271.51, and it will also increase the counter day by 123 days.
This was recommended by our sewer director, Mark Vaughn, and he's also been working with
the contractor along with Crystal Thomas, the party to know the story.
Have you approved this plan?
I have a motion to approve the change plan.
Can I?
Well, let me get a second, and if there's a second, we'll discuss it.
Or did you want to change it?
We have an issue with your original motion.
Yeah.
Please.
Would you please add to your motion.
And you move to approve, how do I say this, based on producer counties signing off of this.
In other words, we're approving this before the county commission has approved for this.
Yes, I'm moving to approve, okay, move to approve our recommendation that they follow through with this.
As long as we only do this, as long as family agree, if they agree.
Okay, go ahead.
You seem like we're going in front of them.
But, okay.
Do you have a motion there?
I have.
I'm sorry for the recommendation.
Okay, let me, I'm sorry.
Let me just be sure.
This is a motion to send a recommendation.
Correct.
It's just a recommendation, because if you look at the owner name, it's Catoose County and the contractor is Mace Construction, so we can only recommend it to the board.
Okay, a motion is taken to send this recommendation to the county, on a paper. On a paper.
On a board
board treatment plan, chemical feeding and storage improvements contract.
Yes sir, we have a representative here from Taines, Allegra. Mr. Gray Johnson in the back, I think he was the author of Reduction.
Is that how I want you to say it?
And you know, we graduated from high school together, so I think we should make him come to the podium.
All seriousness, or being serious about this, we did go out to rebad and was able to lower
the total price of almost $40,000 and get some additional services because teams came to play
with any local contractor we're proud that they did.
They've done members jobs over the years.
Not particularly this kind of work, but for those of you that are not aware, they do a lot of work for B.K.B. and that's real testing.
So they have all the skills in the world.
We make them build our engineer and carry high power, and all of it seems like they've lost some excellent funds to the table.
And I think we'll wind up with a good project.
We really need to move forward, so we've got that $86,000 worth of debt forgiveness that's on the hook.
Now we've got a firm promise we will go back and see if we might be able to get another couple of dollars since the budget price moves up a little bit.
I move we award the Water Treatment Plan Chemical Healing and Storage Improvement to contracts
to team members, teams of, can I get a second?
Thank you.
I have a motion and a second.
All in favor.
You know what I'm just for?
Do we have anything for executive session?
Mr. Mayer, all in favor.
We adjourn.
Motion to adjourn.
Second.
All in favor.