[0:03] Watch
[0:06] the
[0:18] [clears throat]
[0:21] » arm.
[0:24] Oh, yeah.
[0:33] Recording in progress.
[0:50] » Do that again.
[0:55] Also order the regular meeting of the
Rioell City Council. Roll call, please.
[0:59] » Mayor Gar
>> here.
[1:01] » Mayor Pro Carter
>> here.
[1:03] » Council member Woodall
>> here.
[1:04] » Council member or
>> excused.
[1:06] » Council member Wilson
>> here.
[1:08] » Please stand for the pledge of
allegiance.
[1:12] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[1:17] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible and justice for
[1:23] all.
Public presentations.
[1:30] This is the time for persons who wish to
address the council on any matter not on
[1:33] this agenda and over which the council
has jurisdiction. As such, a dialogue
[1:37] with the council or staff is not allowed
under the Ralph Brown Act. Items
[1:42] requiring council actions not listed on
this agenda may be placed on the next
[1:46] regular agenda for consideration if the
council directs unless a finding is made
[1:51] by at least twothirds of the council
that the item came up after the agenda
[1:55] was posted and is of an urgency nature
requiring immediate action. Please limit
[2:00] comments to a maximum of three minutes.
>> Welcome. Anyone? Any
[2:06] got no pages. I wonder
[2:11] else. Okay. Well, then we will close
public presentations and move on to the
[2:15] consent calendar. Is there a council
member who would like to remove an item
[2:19] from the consent calendar?
>> I don't think so.
[2:23] » No. No.
>> No. Let me let me look one.
[2:26] » Okay. I know. I looked at it.
[2:35] Okay.
>> Then um no one member from the public
[2:40] emails. I ask for a motion to approve
the consent calendar.
[2:45] » I move to approve the consent calendar.
>> We have a motion. Is there a second?
[2:48] » A second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Motion
[2:51] carries. 4 Z.
We will move on to manager of staff
[2:58] communications and report city manager
page 39 in our packets.
[3:03] Uh thank you mayor Garn, members of the
council. So um staff has submitted the
[3:10] uh opportunity zone 2.0
a submission which was due yesterday for
[3:17] um the current opportunity zone program
which would potentially if this census
[3:22] tracked area would be designated could
provide additional incentives for uh for
[3:28] investment in this uh in this area. The
census tract again uh stretches from uh
[3:33] the Vanden River uh south to Redway
includes both Riodell and Scotia.
[3:40] Um the uh local Girl Scout troop has
also made a $450 donation for a dog
[3:46] waste bag station. And so that will be
uh installed shortly.
[3:52] And uh Mayor Barnes and Council Member
Woodall and volunteers planted flowers
[3:56] at Blueest Star Memorial Park. So next
time you're over there, take a look.
[4:01] They're pretty good looking.
>> Really nice. Um
[4:06] and then uh we also have street sweeping
that is scheduled for this uh Friday uh
[4:11] the 24th. Want to just ask people to not
park particularly on Wildwood Avenue.
[4:16] Try to stay off of Wildwood Avenue um
while we do that. Um and then paving
[4:21] currently going on on uh
uh Davis Street for the water capital
[4:27] improvement project. I don't know if
that's going to be finished by by
[4:30] Friday, but uh it'll be close. Um and
then uh our uh painter street project uh
[4:39] sewer line upsize is well underway and
kind of the construction crew has
[4:44] covered the most difficult hurdle which
is right next to the plant. So hopefully
[4:49] it's smooth sailing here through here
and uh the project will be completed uh
[4:55] before the uh winter rains. Uh, with
that, I'm happy to answer any questions
[5:00] that the council may have or of staff.
>> Thank you, city manager. Mayor,
[5:06] » uh, no questions. Um, it looks like we
did pretty well on animal control this
[5:10] period. Uh, six related animal calls and
zero dogs transported to Fortuna. Did
[5:16] you have any cats come into the PD?
>> Yes. All right. Um, that's it. Just
[5:23] thank you everyone.
>> Thank you, Council Member Wilson. Yes.
[5:27] Uh I just have the only thing I have is
maybe it's for Randy or for you. Uh
[5:33] there's a somebody texted me a picture
of a hole in the sidewalk over by
[5:39] Grunman's some little bit past it.
There's a looks like by a
[5:44] » it's a P&
>> P is broken. There's a somebody that can
[5:48] step in it.
>> There's a cone on it currently and we've
[5:50] contacted PG to come out fix it.
That's why I told him I'd tell you that
[5:55] and I did. Other than that, I have no
other.
[5:58] » Thank you, Council Member Woodall.
>> No, just thanks to public works. They've
[6:03] been out. They're making the main street
look really nice. They've really been
[6:06] hard at work. Thank you. We're getting
ready for Wildwood Day and you guys are
[6:10] rocking it. Um I wanted to um ask
question. Um, city manager, is there can
[6:17] we put out or should we put out cones?
Like, you know, some cities they put out
[6:22] cones along to keep people from parking.
I don't know if we have cones that do
[6:27] that.
>> Yeah, usually the guys uh the public
[6:29] works crew will uh post a couple pieces
of paper on some cones and set them out
[6:34] along the road
>> Thursday or on Thursday.
[6:36] » Yeah, it's never 100% but we usually get
pretty good pretty close to most.
[6:42] » Thank you. Thank you. to all of you guys
for making the city look good and thank
[6:48] you for Rosa and Jessica for running it.
I mean, not that you two aren't doing
[6:52] your stuff. Thank you too.
Okay, now we will move on to
[7:02] special presentations. Senior home
repair program contract renewal fiscal
[7:07] year 2627 page 42 in our packets
manager. And I'll go ahead and turn this
[7:13] over to Mr. Travis Samour.
>> Thank you, city manager. Good evening,
[7:18] Mayor Garn, members of the council. This
is the annual renewal of our senior home
[7:23] repair program agreement with the
Humbult Senior Resource Center. Tonight
[7:27] we have Rachel Sign with us. She is
Humble Senior Resource Center's director
[7:31] of operations and she's here tonight and
she can answer any questions about the
[7:35] program itself. The program provides
minor home repairs to income eligible
[7:40] residents 60 and older capped at $300
per household. Last year, this program
[7:46] served four RIDEL households, but the
total cost to the city was $841
[7:53] against a $2,500 authorization.
So about a third of what was available.
[7:58] Across both years of the program, we've
served 10 households for a combined
[8:03] $1,938.
[8:06] Humble Senior Resource Center proposed
reducing their own request from $2500 to
[8:11] $1,500 based on prior year trends and
staff agrees a recommended approval of
[8:16] $1,500.
The amount is a ceiling. It's not a
[8:20] commitment and they're only paid for
work performed and anything unused
[8:23] lasts. So, we're happy to take on
questions about the numbers and Rachel
[8:28] can speak on the program itself if you
guys have any further questions.
[8:31] » Thank you very much. Rachel, welcome.
Thank you for coming out. Do you want to
[8:35] say anything or
>> um Well, I'm terrified of speaking in
[8:39] front of people.
>> Okay.
[8:42] » So, we have a question.
>> SO, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'm
[8:45] happy to answer them. Um, I think, you
know, we've seen not a lot of takers for
[8:53] this program in Riadel and I think one
of the barriers that we see are people
[8:57] thinking that they don't qualify. Um, so
we're going to try to market it a little
[9:02] bit different this year. Um, the the
income qualification is actually pretty
[9:07] different.
>> Thank you. I noticed that
[9:12] 60 and above I think [laughter]
management
[9:17] but um yeah thank you though for even
having this program available
[9:23] but it's a great program and I do think
it could be because people don't realize
[9:28] the um eligibility requirements are as
generous as they are. We've heard a lot
[9:32] of Well, there's no way.
[9:37] » Council member Will.
>> No, mine was just about making sure it
[9:40] was marketed and promoted and I imagine
Sarah wants it
[9:45] very closely with Sarah and that was my
question.
[9:47] » Yeah, because I was reading about the
there's probably a lot more people could
[9:51] take advantage of it if they knew.
>> They're our number one referral.
[9:55] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[9:58] » Um, no questions. I support this
program. I think it's really great and
[10:01] yeah, as long as you're working with the
resource center, that's that's a that's
[10:04] a key around here. Yeah,
>> thank you.
[10:08] » Wilson,
>> I really don't have much any uh
[10:10] question, but I appreciate the
opportunity for the residents and it's
[10:15] probably the probably more would if we
have I don't know if we put it in the
[10:20] newsletter that comes out. I don't know
when that comes out, but somewhere that
[10:25] if more people knew about it, I'm sure
they would.
[10:27] » Oh, the Chamber of Commerce newsletter.
>> Huh? The Chamber of Commerce puts out a
[10:31] newsletter every month. Is that what
you're talking about?
[10:33] » No, there's one at the city.
>> Oh, it's direct.
[10:38] » Might as well.
>> Other than that, I have
[10:43] » Thank you. Is there anyone in the member
of the public, please? Allison. Um I
[10:49] wonder
um [clears throat] deal with like so
[10:54] there is a $300 limit which really
limits the amount of work and they're
[10:59] all safety related. Okay. So if you do
have a broken window or a door or
[11:04] something that's not blocking or due to
an earthquake we
[11:09] um in this situation.
>> Okay. So Allison, now is this like
[11:18] you should have a side?
>> I'm just trying to find out if it's like
[11:22] a long discussion or like
>> I can give you my I'll give you my
[11:30] » Okay. I wasn't trying to be rude or
anything but
[11:36] » okay then. Is there a mo and he has
raised emails? Nope.
[11:41] » Then is there a motion uh to approve the
renewal of the senior home repair
[11:47] program with Humble Senior Resources
Center for the fiscal year 2627 and the
[11:52] amount not to exceed $1,500 to authorize
the city manager to execute said
[11:57] agreement?
>> Still moved.
[11:59] » Is there a second? Second. We have a
motion and a second. Motion carries
[12:04] score zero.
[12:08] » And now we will move on to to
[12:14] » discussion and possible
action
[12:18] receiving. Perfect. Okay. So, now we are
moving on to receiving a presentation
[12:23] from the Redwood Coast Energy Authority
on the authorities 2627 budget and rate
[12:29] recommendation and related direction to
council member Wilson on voting for or
[12:33] against the authorities proposed budget
and rate recommendations.
[12:41] Sorry to surprise you.
>> Hello. Hi. How are you?
[12:46] » I'm good. Thank you.
>> 48 in our packets.
[12:49] » Mayor Gardens, council members. Thank
you for having me. My name is Beth
[12:52] Burks. I'm the executive director of the
Redwood Coast Energy Authority. And
[12:56] thank you to Council Member Wilson for
inviting us here today. I'm joined with
[13:00] Lori Bandini. She is our director of
business planning and finance. So, we're
[13:04] going to tag peep this presentation a
little bit. Um so just really general
[13:09] high level overview. Um Ron Coast Energy
Authority is a joint powers agency which
[13:14] Trioell is a member. Um we have several
energy efficiency programs that we run
[13:19] in addition to of course the community
choice energy program which is what
[13:23] we're mainly here to talk about today.
Um but I'll go over um go ahead next
[13:27] slide. Um, I wanted to go over kind of
uh our board's budget process um that
[13:32] we've been engaged in, where we're at
with it, and uh proposed rate change
[13:35] that we've been discussing. So, in May
2026, uh this year, we took uh
[13:41] priorities uh and cost-saving strategies
to our board to get general direction on
[13:46] forming our CA's annual budget. Um so,
we did that in May. Um we'll talk a
[13:51] little more about what priorities came
out of that further in the presentation.
[13:54] Um and then in June, uh our board
adopted the budget, uh with direction to
[14:00] set rates, uh less than 10% above PG&E
rates and maintain a minimum of $26
[14:05] million in financial reserves. Um that's
the minimum we need in financial
[14:10] reserves to avoid um creditor fees and
things like that that we would start
[14:13] incurring if we have uh too few too too
low of a number of reserves. Um, so then
[14:18] this Thursday, um, day after tomorrow,
we'll be having a board meeting and, uh,
[14:23] we'll be coming back to our board to set
that rate. And I'll give you a spoiler.
[14:27] We're recommending six six%. Um, but I
think it's really important we have this
[14:31] chance to discuss what what we're
talking about when it when we talk about
[14:34] a rate. Um, and that the rate that our
board would adopt would come into effect
[14:40] on September 1st. Um, next slide,
please. So the priorities our board set
[14:46] um for this next fiscal year was to
remain steady in our environmental
[14:49] goals. So our CA in 2025 achieved a
portfolio of 100% renewable and carbon-f
[14:55] free energy. Um this was something long
in the making. Um and our board felt
[14:59] really strongly um that it was important
to maintain that level of portfolio. um
[15:04] they were very interested in making sure
we maintained our financial health to
[15:08] maintain um reserves to ensure
organizational solveny and additionally
[15:13] uh long-term rate stabilization. Uh
we're also looking at administering
[15:17] unprecedented uh amount of externally
funded customer programs. So we have the
[15:22] Northern Rural Energy Network which we
administer um for Humble County and
[15:26] beyond. Uh and that has um external
funding we're bringing um to to the
[15:31] county that doesn't come from rateayer
funds. Um and then we are also looking
[15:35] at uh vision setting and regional
coordination. So with that we're really
[15:41] uh been asked uh to take a regional lead
in the regional climate action plan and
[15:45] host that um that effort at RCA. Um our
board stayed uh very interested in
[15:50] making sure that we we were doing that.
Um and then we need to update our CA
[15:54] strategic plan um this coming year. Um,
we're also optimizing our operations,
[15:58] strengthening our customer service, and
make sure that our um our physical
[16:03] assets are as cost neutral as they can
be. So, we maintain a charging network,
[16:07] a electric vehicle charging network
throughout the county. Um, we want to
[16:10] make sure that we're not losing money on
that and that it's as cost neutral as it
[16:13] can be. So, we'll be focusing on that um
now that we have most of our stations
[16:17] installed. Next slide, please. So, in
terms of the cost-saving strategies that
[16:22] our board considered, we looked at no
cola increases for at least two years.
[16:26] We reduced part-time staff and froze
four vacant positions. Um, we had, I
[16:32] don't know this has come up for any of
you, but we had a unique issue with the
[16:35] 27th pay period, which happens about
every 11 years. So, unlucky for us that
[16:40] this was our year, but um we uh took
reductions in our salaries um to pay for
[16:45] that um rather than paying it out, which
saved about a $200,000. We also reduced
[16:50] community choice energy funded rebates.
These are ebike vouchers and electric
[16:54] vehicle rebates that we've traditionally
given. Um we still have kept some core
[16:58] funding in the budget for that. It's
really a popular program and important
[17:01] to our board members that we continue
that. Um but we did reduce it slightly.
[17:05] Um we've reduced travel, training,
education, and outreach budget budgets.
[17:09] Um we eliminated the consultant uh
funding we wanted to set aside for the
[17:14] strategic plan update. We'll be doing
that effort in house. And probably most
[17:17] importantly, um we're pursuing a prepay
agreement which lowers the cost of our
[17:21] power um hopefully by about uh two
million annually. Um so this is a um a
[17:27] bond type agreement that we're we're
following or pursuing that would allow
[17:31] us to reduce the cost of power.
>> Who are you prepaying?
[17:35] » Uh the prepaid it's it's um it's
basically a bond issue. that difference
[17:40] between municipal financing and and um
conventional financing that allow us to
[17:45] realize savings. So yeah, and uh
hopefully that will be uh well it's a
[17:51] minimum of 8% of on the energy that
we'll save minimum and it could be as
[17:56] high as 14%. So we're still kind of
waiting um on the market to figure out
[17:59] exactly how much savings but um
conservatively we're looking at two
[18:03] million. Next slide. Um, so I'm gonna
have Lori come up and kind of walk us
[18:07] through the budget um before we kind of
get into the discussion.
[18:13] » Hello. Welcome.
>> Sure. Thank you. Lori Bandini, the
[18:16] director of business planning and
finance for RCA. Um, so this is just
[18:20] looking at what our adopted budget was
last fiscal year 202526.
[18:26] What um a mid-year amended budget looks
like um because we had some pretty
[18:31] drastic changes midyear. and then what
our um you know current fiscal year 2627
[18:38] budget is looking like. Um just to give
some context around like why we are
[18:43] recommending that we raise electricity
rates. Um so we're looking at a deficit
[18:47] a net income deficit of 5.6 million. Um
a big part of our budget is these
[18:54] customer um usage and retail rates that
we're bringing in so that we're looking
[18:58] at raising those revenues. And then a
big part of our expense budget are the
[19:02] power costs. Right now, we're looking at
power costs that exceed um what we would
[19:07] be bringing in at the retail rates that
we're suggesting. So, even with a 6%
[19:12] increase that we are suggesting, we're
still looking at a little bit of a
[19:14] deficit. Um, next slide. So, this just
shows a breakout of the type of revenue
[19:20] we have at RCA. Um, as you can see, a
majority is electricity sales from our
[19:25] customers. Um, about 71%, but we also
have about 18 million of external
[19:30] funding that Beth spoke to. So, funding
that's coming from the state um to
[19:35] implement energy efficiency programs
both here in Humble County and other
[19:39] rural counties um in Northern
California. Um we also are expecting
[19:43] some investment income and uh tax
credits. We uh built and own and operate
[19:50] um the solar plus battery uh micro grid
at the airport. You guys have ever seen
[19:55] that? Um and so we're realizing some tax
credits associated [clears throat] with
[20:00] Next slide.
And this is a breakout of our expenses.
[20:04] Um majority of our expenses who will
sell power supply as you can see. Uh
[20:08] then we have a large chunk of budget
that goes to our professional and
[20:11] program services. So that's consultant
services that we have to contract out
[20:15] to. Um we also have a large pass through
amount of budget that goes to our
[20:20] partners for the northern rural energy
networks. Those are the other counties
[20:24] that are implementing programs. Um and
then we have you know our personnel
[20:28] budget of course some uh incentives that
go directly to customers. So about 6% of
[20:34] our budget are direct customer
incentives and rebates. Um and then we
[20:38] have our you know facility facilities
and operations communications and
[20:42] outreach non-operating costs. Um and
those costs as well as personnel costs
[20:48] are where we were able to actually like
kind of trim the budget and realize some
[20:52] savings. um a lot of the other costs are
just not within our control.
[21:01] » Thank you.
>> So when we look at what is influencing
[21:04] the rates, we have uh the most um most
significant is the power costs and then
[21:09] there's RCA expenses which play a
smaller role. Um, and then there's this
[21:14] power charging difference adjustment.
And I want to spend a little time
[21:17] talking about this because this is
really kind of the doozy that's um
[21:20] causing us to need to to raise rates
this round. Um, so next slide, please.
[21:25] Um, the purpose of the power cost and
difference adjustment is essentially
[21:28] it's a fee that's charged by PG&E to
make up the difference in what they paid
[21:33] to procure power resources when we were
all still part of PG& um territory. I
[21:39] mean we we are in the sense that we
still get our electricity delivered by
[21:42] them but we were still receiving power
um that they were procuring on our
[21:45] behalf. Uh so the difference in what
they paid and the current market value
[21:50] next slide please becomes the PCIA. So
PG is guaranteed to be made whole so
[21:55] that they would never lose money on
power purchase power that they've
[21:59] purchased. We do not have the same
benefit as a community choice energy. Um
[22:04] so that amount has fluctuated. um our
customers for the most part left PG&
[22:10] about 10 years ago. Um so these are
resources um that they are still
[22:15] customers say we procured these on your
behalf more than 10 years ago um and
[22:19] you're still on the hook to pay for
them. Uh and so next please. Um and and
[22:24] it has [clears throat] fluctuated over
the years. Um unfortunately due to a new
[22:29] uh way that they've calculated the PCIA
um this last year it went up at 232% for
[22:35] RCA customers. Um so for the typical RCA
customer, it's equal to 51% of your
[22:40] generation charge. So um you know you'll
see the the transmission um and
[22:46] distribution charges and then you'll see
the generation charges. So PCIA is a fee
[22:50] um that gets tacked onto that generation
charge and it's about 51% of the total.
[22:55] Now if RCA um without changing our rates
at all, if we did not have to pay that
[23:00] PCIA um our rates would be 31% lower
than PG& rates. Um but we do consider
[23:06] you know for the sake of our community
like we think about it as an all-in
[23:09] rate, right? We don't want our community
paying more and typically we've always
[23:12] offered a discount. So, um I think that
the most it was 3% discount from PG&E.
[23:18] Most recently we've been at half a
percent discount. Um but with this PCIA
[23:22] shift going up so high um it's just not
possible to um offer that dis that
[23:27] historic discount and recoup our costs.
Next slide. So what we're showing here
[23:33] is um kind of how this breaks down into
the typical power bill would be um and
[23:39] uh so we took the rate that most you
know the the far majority of residential
[23:44] customers are on the CTC rate um and
looked at what a typical average bill
[23:48] would be. Um so you can see on um on the
left here it's you know what PTE charged
[23:54] in 2025 which was rates that were quite
higher than they are today. Um and then
[23:59] RCA matched that um you know with just a
a half percent discount in 2025. Um so
[24:05] just to kind of orient ourselves here,
the blue is the delivery rate um which
[24:10] has gone up. That's the trans the
distribution transmission um those
[24:14] charges that PG charges every customer.
Uh the green area is our generation rate
[24:18] and that's the piece that we're talking
about in terms of increasing. Um it
[24:23] doesn't affect the o it doesn't it's not
a percent of the overall bill. It's a
[24:27] percent of the generation. So it's a
percent of that. Um and then and then
[24:32] sort of that pinkish color is the PCIA
charge. So um next slide please. So you
[24:37] can see if we look at a 6% increase, it
means that our charges plus the PCIA
[24:44] would be 6% higher than what a bundle
customer, someone who isn't part of the
[24:49] community choice energy program what
they would pay. Um the total bill
[24:53] results in about 1.6% 6% greater than a
typical PG& bill. So um just I want to
[25:00] be really clear on that because it can
feel really scary to talk about overall
[25:03] bill if we were saying that was going up
by 6%. It's a much different impact than
[25:06] what we're talking about. So it is just
a percentage of the generation that
[25:10] we're talking about. So um next slide.
Uh so we wanted to compare it to 2025
[25:17] when the rates were quite high. They
came down at the beginning of 2026. Um,
[25:22] and so if we look at that right now, the
average customer is paying about $8 less
[25:28] uh in generation than they were um in
2025. And with the 6% rate increase,
[25:33] they would um still be paying less than
they paid in 2025 um but more more than
[25:39] current. Next slide. Uh so the overall
take-home message um for this 6%
[25:45] increase is on the average customer bill
um we'd be looking at an additional
[25:50] $2.33 a month um to cover that 6%
charge. Um just to give you that context
[25:56] of what it would mean um you know again
for an average customer on the typical
[26:00] rate. Um so uh that um that is uh the
proposal we'll be making to the board uh
[26:09] this Thursday for that 6% increase and
that does leave us um at that reserve
[26:14] target that we were going for. Um so it
works in that sense. Let's next slide.
[26:21] So our next steps um would be for our CA
board to finalize the rate at our
[26:26] meeting on Thursday. um rates would
become effective in September and then
[26:30] we'll continue to monitor the rates on a
quarterly basis and make adjustments up
[26:34] to the 9.5% cap the board recommended
that we stay under. Um and that's just
[26:39] to make sure we can maintain those
minimum level preserves consistent with
[26:42] the recommendation. And then the next
step or next slide. Um so you know I do
[26:48] want to mention that we offer a lot of
services for energy efficiency and so we
[26:52] have constituents or or community
members that are concerned about their
[26:55] bill and this change. Um, please
encourage them to call our CA or visit
[27:00] our website. Um, we have customer
service representatives are all local
[27:03] people, local locally employed folks.
They'll answer the phone. Real humans
[27:07] answer our phone. Um, they will be happy
to review a customer's rate, make sure
[27:11] they're on the best rate for the type of
energy and the time of use that they use
[27:14] energy. Um, sometimes there can be
savings just in that alone, just by
[27:18] changing the rate guidelines. Um, you
can request a free home energy
[27:21] assessment where they'll get on the
phone with you and walk through every
[27:24] appliance in your home and think about
low and no cost ways that you could
[27:28] conserve energy. Um, and then you can
request a free energy kit to help you
[27:32] implement some of those low and no cost
ways. Um, and then there's a rebate
[27:35] catalog that you can find online that
would uh, um, support energy efficiency
[27:40] upgrades for many appliances that people
might be replacing. Um, and then as far
[27:45] as even, you know, uh, rebates for
something as complicated as a, um, heat,
[27:50] pump, hot water heater. So, kind of a
wide variety of very small rebates and
[27:53] and much larger ones. So, um, we do have
a variety of services we can offer to
[27:57] offset the increase and we're happy to
provide those services if anyone's
[28:01] interested. Um, so that is my last
slide. Um, I'm happy to answer any
[28:06] questions. Um, and really do appreciate
um, council member Wilson's invite to
[28:11] come here. You know, it's really great
for us to get to come and explain and
[28:13] make sure everyone has the right
information to make decisions. I really
[28:16] appreciate it.
>> Thank you. Um, Council Member
[28:21] No.
>> Um,
[28:25] people can opt out of RCA, right? So, I
mean, so let's say you you adjust your
[28:30] race and somebody's like, "Oh god, I
just can't handle that." They can just
[28:34] opt out. Yeah.
>> And the people who read it and say, "I'm
[28:37] okay with this." They can just stay in.
So, people still have choices. This is
[28:41] » that's the heart of it. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.
[28:43] » That is my only clarification. Thank
you.
[28:45] » Thank you, Council Member Wilson.
>> Uh yeah, just a a couple things. If if
[28:51] you don't What is the ramifications if
you don't raise your rates? You you
[28:57] start like you showed you at the current
rate, we'd lose $6 million
[29:01] » this year. and over a substant time how
long before that would eventually
[29:07] eliminate our
>> um yeah without any change in rates I
[29:12] think you know we we don't really map
past um asset on a three-year period
[29:17] because it become the modeling becomes
very iffy after that right so the
[29:21] crystal ball gets gets even cloudier um
so but looking at this I think we get
[29:25] down to just a few million um in 2028 if
we don't make any changes but it's other
[29:30] things you know there's many factors
happening in the background as Well, in
[29:33] terms of one, PCI advocacy that we're
doing to remove that and you know, I
[29:38] will say California is the only state
that doesn't um you know, many states
[29:42] have community choice energy type
programs. We're the only state that
[29:45] doesn't sunset a PCIA. Um so 10 years
deep into it, it should definitely go
[29:50] away. Um so we're working towards that.
That's something that could change the
[29:53] background. Energy costs fluctuate
daily, hourly. Um so those um you know
[29:57] even from the presentation we gave the
forward last month to now um you know
[30:02] there it's the situation improved by
million dollars. Um so that's why we
[30:06] want to have that ability to track it so
closely and make make changes a little
[30:11] more fine-tuning so we can at least name
that minimum maintain that minimum level
[30:14] of reserves um and hopefully avoid any
any larger rate increases than that
[30:19] 9.5%. But in terms of if we do nothing
and nothing in the background changes um
[30:24] you know it's it's it it doesn't all
look rosy you know by 2028 if you pay by
[30:29] find ourselves with pretty bare minimum
reserves.
[30:32] » So with with the with the increase you
you hold your own with the $28 billion
[30:37] reserve for the financial thing
>> and uh the the one of the things that
[30:44] happened and can I take a second?
>> Yeah. uh
[30:49] » when I was in the hospital for I was in
the hospital for a while and that
[30:54] there's a lot of different nurses that
come through that if you've been to uh
[30:58] Providence that they that they have
there and used the RCA had sent me some
[31:04] flowers and so it had RCA written on it.
So they would come by and ask me all the
[31:09] time about RCA. And there's one of the
things that you I saw was there was
[31:15] there was a very lack of understanding
in Humble County about RCA. You know,
[31:20] it's on my bill. I see it there and I
have to pay it and my what I pay double
[31:25] or all kinds of questions. So it gave me
a lot of opportunity. Uh and I and I
[31:30] lost track after I don't know after 10
people I lost track of that. But one of
[31:35] the things that that seem to be the the
thing that I could I could lean to is
[31:42] the the things that RCA does locally and
there's there's about $10 million worth
[31:47] of $6 million like a personnel jobs or
40ome jobs. Um this $10 million that
[31:54] goes into the local economy if it was
not going to RCA locally it would be
[31:59] going into as I said in the last meeting
it would be going to PG& stockholders.
[32:04] uh shareholders pockets and and just as
a point of interest in 2025
[32:10] PG& made $2.5 billion profit depending
what you look at another one they were
[32:15] three billion depending how they their
financial spreadsheets are showing you
[32:20] what they're showing and the there's
there's never
[32:26] a kind of a thing that there's you know
what's your goal for PGD there's never
[32:29] enough it's what the most that I what
can we get and they continue to take
[32:35] that. And so by keeping this stuff
local, the the jobs the uh you know the
[32:42] the support when you have 40 jobs, you
have so many support jobs that help with
[32:46] that and to lose to lose that out just
to let that go to to the corporate uh
[32:52] process. And the other thing was a few
years back we actually had to borrow
[32:57] money from one of the rancheras to stay
in business. And then this PCIA thing
[33:02] that they fill with uh they changed that
to the point where we were able to come
[33:08] from being going negative we paid off
the loan back to the rancheria in
[33:13] shorter than it was due and then we
started acrewing the the money to bring
[33:18] up the reserves to where they're a solid
right now I think it's even higher than
[33:23] 26 billion and and that happened in such
a short period of time it was like like
[33:28] a phenomenal thing. What happened? Well,
this PCI thing that PG wasn't getting,
[33:35] they
they used to have a building in San
[33:38] Francisco that had two buildings. One
takes take took up a square block of 34
[33:43] stories or something which they sold and
now they're in Oakland. But they had
[33:47] people that sit around and figure this
stuff out. And one of the things they
[33:52] figured out was how to do whatever they
did to PCIA. Now it's now it's 232%
[33:58] above
>> right
[34:00] » what they're doing and it's half the
energy costs and so now they're taking
[34:03] that money back and if they probably
have a I'm speaking as a conjecture a
[34:09] goal would be to eliminate CCAs because
CCAs take and and purchase power on the
[34:15] open market and then send sell it back
to the local people. If we weren't here,
[34:22] they would do that. They It would be
them taking the power and sending it to
[34:26] you and put it in their pocket. Right.
>> In this case, the the whole purpose of
[34:30] the CCA, which is community choice
aggregate, was to give local communities
[34:36] a chance to do a little better in in the
system and try to save money. And so the
[34:44] result of it of not of not saving a big
punch on your bill, there are things
[34:49] happening in your in your community that
RCA provides. And so if it were just
[34:55] left to me and we were going to vote and
Frank was going to the council or to the
[35:01] board meeting, my vote would have been
for this. And yet that's a big that's a
[35:07] big deal for overall. And they uh they
changed it from 10 now to six. that
[35:13] that's why I came to the council that
that you guys should have input as a JPA
[35:17] to influence what I do or don't do. I'll
do what the C I'll express my opinion
[35:22] but I'll still vote as the council
directs me and that's
[35:27] » basically what I have.
>> Thank you, Council Wilson. Um I would
[35:33] like to know so what you're saying is
that PCIA is not going to go away
[35:40] » as of now. No, there's some bill there.
Assembly member Rogers, our Assembly
[35:44] member, uh he has uh sponsored some
legislation to increase the
[35:49] transparency. So, one of the ironies of
this PCIA, is that there's not a lot of
[35:53] insight to what resources they're
putting into that calculation. Um and
[35:57] the claim is that it's proprietary
information, sort of cost of energy, you
[36:02] know, things that um would be sort of
trade secret. So we can't just let
[36:05] everybody know but there has to be some
level of transparency um to understand
[36:09] well you know to give us any
predictability of what will happen with
[36:12] the PCIA in the long run. Um so there is
a transparency bill being being uh
[36:17] floated right now that's doing very well
through committees. Um but there's no
[36:21] plan currently that would make it go
away. We have um through our trade
[36:25] organization we've submitted an appeal
to the California Supreme Court um for
[36:29] this uh retroactive rate making that uh
we you know we're basically saying that
[36:35] this new methodology the way they
calculated it to have it rise so rapidly
[36:38] at 232% constitutes retroactive
rightmaking. Um so we've been taking
[36:43] that appeal as far as we can take it. So
we're doing active advocacy around this
[36:47] but right now there is no sunset. There
is no way that this permanently goes
[36:51] away. Um when you when you're talking
about a bill to uh to address this, are
[36:59] you talking about something that would
be directly um
[37:04] directed to PG&E or because really if
CPU
[37:10] » says they can do it and that's what
their favorite thing to do is to say you
[37:15] can do it PG&
>> then there's really it. So I guess my
[37:20] question is is the bill directed at CPU?
>> It would it would direct the CPU to like
[37:28] come up with a process to make the PCIA
calculation more transparent for CCAs.
[37:33] » Okay. And um
>> but I [clears throat] agree with your um
[37:38] synopsis there in terms of the CPU
generally liking to give what they want.
[37:43] And so
just my I have to honestly my
[37:49] inclination
initially is to vote no because
[37:55] every single thing and every single
garbage, water, trash,
[38:01] life, everything is going up. And so
when something goes up, it might only go
[38:06] up 50 cents. But if 50 things go up 50
cents, then community, you know, a
[38:14] community that is um not an affluent
community will suffer. And the one thing
[38:22] that we felt when we were or we we
believed when we were originally all in
[38:29] and and for it is that it would be
lower, that you would save us, you not
[38:37] [laughter]
you know, um, from the rate increases.
[38:42] And so the rate increase of 6% is good,
but it can go up to 9.5. I remember this
[38:49] whole cannabis thing, you know, it's
10%, but it could go up to 10%. And then
[38:52] we had to back it down because people
didn't like that number, right? And so
[38:56] that's my concern [clears throat] is
that
[39:00] you're doing it. I understand why you're
doing it and I understand the need to
[39:04] do.
I don't know that the community can
[39:10] sustain PE everything going up, you
know. Um, and the city it's the same
[39:17] like our garbage rates go up, you know.
Um, our water rates or water sewer rates
[39:23] go up and you know that's something
that's been that was established like
[39:29] for the water and sewer that was
established four years ago or whatever
[39:32] and it's you know this is the final year
but it doesn't matter that it's the
[39:35] final year. what matters is going up,
you know, and so that's really my
[39:42] biggest concern and my worry and I I do
believe because I understand that every
[39:48] jurisdiction is percentage and Rioell is
only a 6% um of the total um vote wise
[39:56] um that
it will likely [clears throat] pass and
[40:01] I'm sure that it will likely pass here,
but I just I am just very uncomfortable
[40:08] with raising things when every single
day we get promised the gas is going to
[40:15] go down. It goes down for a day and then
it goes back right back up, you know.
[40:18] So is there
[40:23] so the 9.5% that you say that's as high
as it's going to go
[40:28] » and that's as high as it's going to go
for two years because it's a twoyear or
[40:33] no that cost of living that was your
your
[40:36] other sorry but is there what is the um
duration of that cap of 9.5 is that you
[40:48] know like if they go up to 250%.
In the PICA,
[40:53] » what happens then?
>> Well, we would the way we're structuring
[40:57] this is that it would come back to our
board for anything above that 9.5 would
[41:01] be a whole new discussion with the
board. So, we would not take that
[41:05] without, you know, you know, we could
bring it back to this council as well.
[41:09] Um, so we would have that check right
there. um in terms of how long we think
[41:13] we can you know write out this
particular rate and we want to be able
[41:16] to have that flexibility to analyze it
you know as we go to avoid a higher rate
[41:20] increase because we run that risk if we
wait too long the ask get too high and
[41:26] that's the f you know I will say it's
not something we've taken lightly we've
[41:29] had this historic discount um
affordability has always been a focus of
[41:32] our CA um we've saved you know well over
$7 million um throughout the county
[41:38] since we started so I I I would say that
we're still very much focused on
[41:42] affordability and just like the rates
could go up and I hear what you're
[41:44] saying about but they never seem to come
down um I think that that is a real
[41:48] potential um that we will also be
monitoring for. So um as uh council
[41:53] member Wilson said you know one of the
one of the great things about being a
[41:57] CCA versus a profit driven entity is
that um we we can bring it down. We're
[42:02] not we're not in this just to drive up
profits to the maximum extent feasible.
[42:05] So when we hit the targets that our
board has set we had to back off. Um so
[42:09] I think we have some assurance there
that we've got some great oversight with
[42:12] our board that's very engaged and we'll
be watching it every step of the way. Um
[42:16] the energy market is volatile. Um so as
I mentioned things improved even $2
[42:21] million from one month to the next. They
can also on you know go the opposite
[42:24] direction. Um but we have experienced
these big fluctuations and so it's very
[42:28] hard at any moment to say this is the
right moment to do this and especially
[42:32] um what you mentioned with it feels like
everything's going up and I will tell
[42:35] you I have spent the last two months
looking around at my community and
[42:39] wondering like you know which of us can
afford that and which like it's it's not
[42:43] a joke right like it's very serious and
I you know I think we are also a grand
[42:48] experiment here in Humboldt um for CCAs
we you know our demographics are quite
[42:53] different than a typical CCA So I think
one thing about this increase um and um
[42:58] you know to your point about opt outs it
is still a choice so people can make
[43:01] that choice if they need to. We've done
some analysis as sort of what's the
[43:04] threshold that we can tolerate and stay
viable and so we're looking at all of
[43:08] that very closely and we can selforrect
at any moment um and you know think of
[43:12] alternatives or contingencies if we need
to. Um but we you know one thing I would
[43:16] really encourage is those options for
efficiency because it is a fairly small
[43:20] increase. Um, I think that there are
some things, you know, often that could
[43:24] be done that would you could bring it
back down. Um, and talking with our
[43:27] energy advisors would be a great way for
people to know like, okay, how would I
[43:31] save some money here or is it just the
time? I'm literally could be the time
[43:33] doing your laundry. Um, you know, so, so
there could be very simple changes
[43:37] people could make in that up. Yeah.
>> So, I'd really encourage that as a first
[43:41] step. We've got great people, you know,
ready to give advice on that. Okay. And
[43:45] the increase would it be
let's say is it I don't know exactly how
[43:52] you is it per kilowatt hour or is it per
month is that whatever that that total
[43:57] amount you what what is that total
amount covering
[44:00] » yeah I think it's it's per kilowatt um
per kilowatt hour that what we showed
[44:04] you there the amount was a typical bill
so just the very most average bill on
[44:08] the most average rate so yeah
but but we are tied to um we tied to PG&
[44:16] rates. So we're still going to tear off
of that, right? So um the cost is just
[44:20] looking at PG&'s rate setting and and
you know going going um higher than that
[44:26] but not necessarily you know mixing up
the rate classes different or um analyze
[44:31] you know kind of uh there there's a
whole other method we could do which is
[44:35] like cost of service which would um
perhaps have you know different rates
[44:39] for different classes of users than PG&E
uses. We're not talking about any of
[44:43] that. We're just talking about straight
off of the PJ bill just like we've
[44:46] always done. But half a percent, now
it'll be six%.
[44:49] » Okay. And I think
>> so if PG&E raises their rates,
[44:59] then you would have to raise your rates.
Is that it's it's just like
[45:03] » potentially or potentially not. Yes. I
mean, we we'll have to make that choice
[45:06] because we're going to watch that. So we
may still need to stay higher. Um or it
[45:10] could be that if they did a dramatic
rate increase, we could actually find
[45:13] ourselves lower again. It really depends
on how they because we're we're basing
[45:17] this on what we need for our reserves,
not not what you know just matching
[45:22] their rates. Yeah. So, so we will have
that option and that is you know in our
[45:26] dream world that's the best case
scenario but not exactly because we
[45:29] don't want you know rates overall pet
rocket but yeah we would you know be
[45:32] able to realize that discount. Um, so
yeah, it's a it's a complicated uh wish
[45:37] list, right? Because you don't want
rates to go too high, but also, you
[45:40] know, we do want to be able to offer. So
it could that could be, you know, the
[45:44] scenario a few months from now.
>> Thank you. Is there anyone in the public
[45:48] who has a question?
>> Yes. Can you
[45:53] » Okay,
>> that would be great.
[45:58] » Hi, my name is Shannon Brashard,
community member. My question is your
[46:02] average of $2 a little bit more or the
average of4 $140 a month. What if that's
[46:07] not your average? Our I wish my average
was $148 a month. I that's not and I've
[46:14] been processed with my family. So would
my $2 and something cents go up because
[46:18] my bill went up because my average 200
if I'm lucky 220 on a good month. And so
[46:25] would that extra $2, would that be more
for me? It would be 6% no matter my
[46:31] bill.
>> Or would it the $2 that you're saying
[46:35] would go up each month? It would go up.
If my bill is not $140, I'm not paying
[46:41] the the generation rate plus the PIA
would be Yeah, you'd be your generation
[46:48] portion will go up,
>> right? So my average
[46:55] » okay that was my question because my
>> thank you
[47:01] » my average like 61
>> I don't know what I'm doing
[47:06] » that [laughter]
and if I could just add you know if you
[47:09] have questions like that about your bill
please call in because they can break
[47:12] down um I'm not sure how much time
people have spent with their PJ new bill
[47:16] but it's um potentially purposefully
confusing um you know where they put
[47:21] those charges and what you're looking
at. And so if you have like for example
[47:24] natural gas that we're not talking about
that at all, right? Like nothing's
[47:27] touching that. So you might have that
might be where the bulk of your bill is.
[47:30] So um even though your bill may be
higher than the average bill we were
[47:34] looking at here, um you know maybe your
percentage of what what amount of that
[47:39] is electricity generation. Um that's the
important part we're talking about. So
[47:44] um you know depending on what your
appliances are, all all kinds of factors
[47:46] will go into that. So, um, yeah, that
we're only talking about the electric
[47:50] portion of the bill. [clears throat]
>> Thank you. Lot of
[47:56] any hands raised.
>> Council, council member.
[48:01] » Well, I was just going to say um
>> I kind of agree with Amanda. You have
[48:06] the option
>> to um opt out even though they make it
[48:10] hard. My husband's tried to call several
times. But now that I mean if
[48:16] » what is the other option opt out
>> PG PG
[48:21] » do they charge you more to
>> sorry
[48:26] » yeah if um if you opt out you go back to
being a bundled customer um one thing
[48:30] and there is a waiting period so it's um
you opt out and then uh if you if you
[48:36] for example if we were able to realize a
discount and you wanted to opt back in
[48:39] it wouldn't happen instantaneously.
So, so you it's a bit of a gamble,
[48:44] right? Which one do you think will be
cheaper in the long term? I mean,
[48:47] historically, for the last 10 years,
we've managed to be cheaper. This is the
[48:50] first time we've had to go above PJ. Um,
so I think that's just to be mindful of
[48:54] that that if you opt out, you know, it
takes some time to opt back in if we
[48:58] were able to realize rate savings. Um,
but yes, that would be your option. You
[49:02] just go to the PG& become a bundled
customer.
[49:04] » When you talk about it'll take some
time, how much time to opt out?
[49:08] » Uh, when you opt out, I think there's
just a small leg lag. um uh of a couple
[49:13] months to actually get back on the PG&
bundled customer. But when you want to
[49:17] opt back into RCA, um I think it takes
uh I want to say a year before you can
[49:22] come back in. Um yeah, so there is some
time and that's just to avoid um you
[49:27] know again we're procuring power based
on a anticipated load and so um if
[49:32] someone were for example trying to gain
the system of opting in opting out every
[49:34] other day you know make it difficult. So
there are some statutory required time
[49:38] frames. Okay.
[49:43] » Sorry I didn't mean to
jump ahead of you there, Julie. Um, are
[49:48] there any um emails?
Then I will Let's see. Where are we?
[49:56] Uhoh.
[50:21] direction need to provide direction to
council member Wilson on how to vote for
[50:27] the uh rate increase for um RCA
there. How do I It's not a motion.
[50:38] Um I think uh I think you can do it
either way. I think the motion would
[50:43] probably be the best way to do it and a
simple motion would be to uh
[50:50] based on what I'm reading from the
council to uh make a motion to u direct
[50:56] council member Wilson to vote in the
affirmative for the robocose energy
[51:00] authority budget and rate
recommendation.
[51:05] Is there a motion?
>> I'll make that motion.
[51:08] » Repeat it. No.
It's for me. Council member Wilson
[51:14] direction to vote in the affirmative.
>> In the affirmative. I couldn't I didn't.
[51:18] Yes.
>> Because people have a choice ultimately.
[51:21] I think they can do.
>> Yeah. Okay. I'll make the motion.
[51:25] » You have a motion.
>> Oh, so state the motion.
[51:29] Tell your motion.
>> I think we are the motion is to for the
[51:34] council to direct you council member
Wilson to vote in the affirmative for
[51:39] the budget and the rate increase for
RCA.
[51:45] » It's saying vote yes. That's basically
the motion.
[51:48] » That's what you're So
motion and a second. We have a second.
[51:53] Do we have a second? I'll
>> second.
[51:55] » We have a motion and a second. Feeling
[52:03] vote.
[52:06] Okay. So motion car 3 one.
[52:12] » Okay.
[52:15] I will
thank you both for coming.
[52:20] Absolutely. Thanks for answering all of
our questions.
[52:25] Now we'll move on to the update the span
neuter voucher program page 68 in our
[52:31] packets.
[52:36] » Thank you Mayor Garn members of the
council. I'll go ahead and hand this
[52:39] over to our finance director, Mr. Travis
Sand.
[52:43] » Thank you, city manager. And just going
to wait our PowerPoint loaded here.
[52:52] All right. Thank you, Mayor Gar, members
of the council. So, Riadella is a small
[52:56] rural community of about 3,400 people.
And today, I want to walk you through
[53:00] what we built with our spay and neuter
program and why we think it holds
[53:04] lessons for future programs like this.
And everything you see today is verified
[53:08] provider billings in within the city's
general ledger through the end of the
[53:12] last fiscal year, June 30th, 2026.
[53:18] Unaltered animal populations put real
pressure on small cities. Shelter
[53:21] intake, animal control calls are costs
that we absorb whether we budget for
[53:26] them or not. In August 2024, the city
council approved a straightforward
[53:31] solution. Pay a trusted local clinic
directly for each spay or neuter
[53:36] performed. Resolution 1623-2024
[53:41] established this program and named
animal license fees as its funding
[53:45] source. The mechanics is simple. A
resident brings a dog or cat to Humble
[53:51] Humane, which does business as Critters
Without Litters, and the clinic performs
[53:55] the procedure and invoices the city per
animal. We pay, there's no new staff,
[54:01] and there's no new infrastructure
involved. The MLAN Foundation actually
[54:05] stepped in early with a $3,500 grant to
support that helped us get us get this
[54:10] program off the ground.
In 22 months of operation, the program
[54:15] asserts 53 animals, 32 dogs, and 21
cats. Every one of them through a
[54:20] voucher valued from $75 for a male cat
to $350 for a female dog based on animal
[54:27] type and size. The average provider cost
is about $120 per animal, which is an
[54:34] efficient number for a rule program with
no administrative overhead.
[54:38] 22 months of continuous operations were
done without interruption.
[54:43] We have secured $13,221
across three sources, a little over
[54:49] $8,900 from in dedicated animal license
fees, $3,500 from the MLAN Foundation,
[54:55] and $750 from three community donors who
believed in the program. The MLAN grants
[55:02] were instrumental in getting us off in
our first year and those awards have now
[55:05] closed and the program is standing on
its own.
[55:10] In the first year, fiscal 2024-25, we
ran primarily on fund balance with the
[55:16] $750 donation in support. When the MLAN
Foundation award closed in October 2025,
[55:23] the dedicated fee stream picked up from
where the philanthropy left off. That
[55:27] transition happened without a gap in
service.
[55:30] Across two years, we've secured $13,221
in grants, donations, and dedicated fees
[55:37] to run a program that serves roughly 25
animals per year.
[55:42] Here's why the program is self-
sustaining. Resolution 1623-20224
[55:49] named animal license and control fees as
funding source, and we ran the numbers.
[55:53] In fiscal year 2425, we collected a
little over $3,900 against a $2,500
[56:00] projection. In fiscal year 2526, we
collected $4,999,
[56:07] which is double the projection.
We dedicated the full $8,971
[56:12] to the program, and the annual fee
collections now cover the program's
[56:16] annual cost with room to spare.
[56:21] So California's $50 million California
for all animals initiative directed more
[56:26] than half of its dispersed funding
towards spay and neuter. That program's
[56:30] grant funds are now fully awarded. Ridel
shows what a next generation of rural
[56:35] spayneuter support could look like which
is locally administered feedback and
[56:40] delivered through an existing community
clinic and verified to the penny.
[56:45] What dedicated local fees cannot fund is
growth. We sustain 25 animals a year,
[56:51] feral cat populations,
neighboring communities, expanded
[56:55] demand. Those require a state partner.
The model works. The economics are
[57:00] honest and the partnership is ready.
Reedell has built a self- sustaining
[57:04] rural spay and neuter program on local
fees, community support, and one trusted
[57:09] clinic. We offered as a model for how
this should work across California.
[57:15] Thank you for that and I'd be happy to
answer any questions you might have.
[57:19] » Thank you very much. And um I want to
personally thank Mayor Prom Amanda
[57:26] Carter for her efforts. There's not a
time that a meeting, not anything that
[57:33] goes by when she doesn't bring it up and
she doesn't push it. It doesn't it
[57:37] doesn't matter what the meeting is an
opening and says, "Do you have anything
[57:41] to say?" she's got something to say and
it's got to do with spay neut. So, I
[57:47] want to say thank you for all you do um
for this area and I would like to see if
[57:51] you would like to
>> Yeah, I would love to speak on this. Um
[57:54] I first Thank you, Travis, for this
lovely PowerPoint. The first one
[58:00] just makes my heart warm. How a city of
3,400 people built a self-sustaining
[58:05] space program. I wish I could see more
of that. Um, [gasps]
[58:09] I guess I I think that as far as animal
control goes and as we, you know, move
[58:15] forward in our animal control future,
whatever those decisions are, I do think
[58:19] that this spayneuter voucher program is
the most valuable and um,
[58:26] coste effective way to tackle animal
overpopulation. Um, I also want to make
[58:32] sure you guys got all these letters of
support from the community cuz people
[58:36] really really like this program a lot.
It helps people. Um, something I hear a
[58:40] lot is that owning a pet's a luxury, but
I don't think it should be, right? I I
[58:46] think that partially, you know, a lot of
these times pets are they serve as
[58:50] people's emotional support. They serve
as just all kinds of stuff that that we
[58:56] need and we rely on. And and I think
that people should be allowed to have
[58:59] pets without it being massively uh cost
prohibitive. Um I also think that when
[59:06] it comes to unwanted births, you know,
um sometimes it's just an accident.
[59:11] Sometimes the cat sneaks out and comes
home pregnant and then what do you do
[59:15] with this litter of five kids? Um so I
think that's really effective there,
[59:20] too. I have trapped 18 cats in my
backyard alone. And that's not counting
[59:25] the cats that have been out and trapped
elsewhere. 18. Um, I paid out of pocket
[59:30] to have all of those cats spayed and
neutered, you know, and it would have
[59:34] been really nice if the city or some,
you know, there's other voucher programs
[59:37] out there, but this is by far the most
sustainable, most effective way to
[59:41] combat animal overpopulation and shelter
overpopulation. In light of recent
[59:47] circumstances, I I think it really
highlights the need uh for spayneuter
[59:52] and people are calling for all kinds of
solutions. We need oversight. We need
[59:56] you know facilities. We need
infrastructure. Uh but what we really
[1:00:00] really really need is investment in
spayneuter um locally at the state level
[1:00:04] at every single level. So for me it is a
huge pleasure to be a representative
[1:00:10] program for how to do this. Nobody's
doing this. The reason I talk about it
[1:00:15] so much is because nobody does this.
Nobody else in Humble County, not a
[1:00:18] single jurisdiction's doing this. Um,
there are very few programs like this in
[1:00:24] the entire state. And I haven't found a
whole lot like New York City was looking
[1:00:28] at how to do it or something. So, we
beat New York City to the punch really.
[1:00:33] And I want to thank this council for the
support that it's given me. Um, you all
[1:00:38] have always unanimously voted yes to
this stuff and so I'm proud of you. and
[1:00:44] city staff has been massively supportive
in this effort. And um so so has the
[1:00:49] community resource center. Sarah can't
be here today, but uh Critters Without
[1:00:53] Litters is the clinic that we contract
with for this and I'm just so thankful
[1:00:59] that they're here because they are so
close by. It used to be that we were
[1:01:02] driving cats and dogs up to Almost Bay
Neuter Network which is a wonderful
[1:01:06] place but is far away from Rio and that
by itself was prohibitive. Um, our
[1:01:11] program offers financial assistance and
transportation if people need it. The
[1:01:16] mayor prom of your city shows up to your
house and picks up your animal, takes it
[1:01:19] to the vet, and then brings it right
back home. Um, and I think there are
[1:01:23] very few cities that can say that.
Lastly, our three community donors. Um,
[1:01:29] that was my family, so I kind of want to
thank them, too. [laughter]
[1:01:32] Uh, that was me saying, "Don't buy me
Christmas presents this year, just
[1:01:36] donate to this program instead." Which
they very graciously did. So, I would be
[1:01:40] remiss not to thank uh my mom and my
sister and my father-in-law for donating
[1:01:45] as my Christmas present last year, and
I'm going to try again. Um, that's my
[1:01:50] spiel. What I would like is like a is
dedicated funding for this. You know, I
[1:01:55] I want to see this grow. I would love to
see this open to feral and straight cats
[1:02:00] because that's really where the problem
is. It's one thing to help people's pets
[1:02:04] and it's quite another to motivate
people to trump around in some bushes
[1:02:08] and and try to trap these wild spitting
hissing mean nasty cats uh when there
[1:02:13] isn't somebody to help drive pay
whatever. A lot of the time community
[1:02:18] members are perfectly willing to pay a
little bit $20 a cat, something like
[1:02:22] that. But with the city's assistance, we
can really try to cut down um you know
[1:02:27] the the cats that get into your lovely
flowers and you know things like that.
[1:02:31] So, um, I'm going to shut my mouth
because I could talk about this for a
[1:02:35] really long time. I just I want to thank
Travis especially for putting this
[1:02:38] together. It's beautiful. Thank you all.
[1:02:44] » Council member Little,
>> I just want to say thank you. You've
[1:02:48] done an amazing job. You've been on this
for a long time and
[1:02:53] it's a wonderful program and we do need
pets.
[1:02:56] » Yeah, definitely. And so I'm all for it
and I'm all for anything else we can do
[1:03:01] to help.
>> Thank you, Council Member Wilson.
[1:03:04] » Yes. And I also thank Amanda. I know
she's the CAT lady and so
[1:03:09] ever since you came on the council
before, but u I think it's a good
[1:03:14] program. Uh and the added caveat that
you told me tonight is that we beat New
[1:03:19] York. So
>> I'm really proud of that.
[1:03:21] » Yeah. Good. We should be really proud of
our service. Yeah. Any community member
[1:03:26] would like to speak on this?
>> All right.
[1:03:33] Jennifer.
[1:03:40] » Hello. My my name is Jennifer Raymond
and I just want to commend Amanda and
[1:03:48] the city of Rioell for this program. I
am the founder of Critters Without
[1:03:53] Litters and also Humbult's Bayne Neuter
Clinic. When I moved to Humbult County,
[1:03:59] I learned that more than 4,000 dogs and
cats were being euthanized every year by
[1:04:05] the county's impound facility. And I was
appalled by that. I called the facility
[1:04:13] and said, "Do you have a spayneuter
program?" And they said, "No." And I
[1:04:18] said, "Well, um, I'd like to volunteer
to start one. I'll do it as a volunteer.
[1:04:24] I'll raise all the money." And they
said, "No, thank you." So, I had to
[1:04:28] start a nonprofit and it turned into
Humble Spain Neuter Clinic. The very
[1:04:32] first year we operated, we were spaying
and we spayed neutered more than 3,500
[1:04:39] dogs and cats. And what this represents
is thousands of kittens and puppies that
[1:04:46] aren't born, don't need to be impounded,
won't be euthanized.
[1:04:51] And the problem with spayneuter is we
don't have a whole lot to show for our
[1:04:56] work. You know, I mean, the more
successful we are, the less we have to
[1:05:01] show. But what you've done here is
wonderful, and I think it's a model, and
[1:05:07] it's a model that I'm going to work on.
I'm talking with the county board of
[1:05:12] supervisors
and using Rioddell as a model saying
[1:05:17] let's do this as a county. So thank you
so much for what you are doing here.
[1:05:23] Thank you Amanda and uh this is just
really forwardlooking because we won't
[1:05:30] solve pet overpopulation
until we solve the problem of unwanted
[1:05:36] births. And that's what's sp.
Thank you.
[1:05:40] » Thank you for being here.
>> There anyone else
[1:05:47] standing up?
[1:05:51] » I wasn't sure if she
>> Okay, then. Um I Any hands raised? Any
[1:05:57] emails? Then I will ask for a motion to
direct staff to establish a recurring
[1:06:06] dedicated
dedication of animal license and control
[1:06:10] fee revenue to the program beginning in
fiscal year 2627. Is there a motion?
[1:06:16] » I would love to make that motion.
>> Have a motion. Is there a second?
[1:06:19] » I have a second.
>> Have a motion and a second.
[1:06:22] » Motion carries 4.
>> Thank you everybody.
[1:06:25] » Thank you. No, thank you. No, we're
we're too
[1:06:28] » [clears throat]
>> Now we will move on to discussion and
[1:06:32] possible action regarding the police
department animal pinnel project
[1:06:37] 77 in our packet. City manager.
>> I'll go ahead and turn it over to Chief
[1:06:42] Benning.
>> Thank you. Mayor Garn council members as
[1:06:47] the council may recall previously this
item was brought up the need to
[1:06:51] establish facility for the city and they
formed the ad hoc committee. At that
[1:06:57] committee meeting, multiple different
options were presented and I'm here
[1:07:02] tonight to present to the council what
was decided on.
[1:07:08] If the council would guide their
attention to page
[1:07:16] 84, 85,
86. I have some photograph there for
[1:07:21] reference as I go through this.
[1:07:26] The ad that hawk committed
committee
[1:07:31] decided uh that the 12x 246 run
prefabricated commercial kennel was the
[1:07:39] appropriate option. It comes complete
with electrical packaging, climate
[1:07:42] control, floor drains, dog doors,
heating system, all for the ballpark
[1:07:46] figure of about $70,000.
[1:07:52] We eliminated some of the options on
this since the writing of this packet.
[1:07:57] Uh eliminating some of the AC related
stuff in favor of the fan and kept the
[1:08:01] heat element for wintertime, saving us a
couple thousand dollars there.
[1:08:07] This includes the construction of a 28T
by 18t reinforced concrete slab that
[1:08:12] this building would sit on. That would
cost us approximately $12,890.
[1:08:19] the installation of an automatic
electric gate system with walkthrough
[1:08:22] access gate associated [clears throat]
fencing improvements. We have a quote
[1:08:26] for that for $9,750.
[1:08:30] At the time of writing this, we
estimated that the additional features
[1:08:34] including the modification of the power
to handle this building and the
[1:08:38] installation of the tank be
approximately $10,000.
[1:08:42] Unfortunately, that has come in closer
to 25,000, bringing our total project
[1:08:49] cost up in the ballpark of $125,000.
[1:08:59] Staff is recommending that council would
authorize staff to actively seek
[1:09:04] donations, sponsorships, grants, outside
funding sources with the goal of
[1:09:09] securing approximately 30% of the
project costs.
[1:09:13] That is a number I would recommend the
council discuss determine if 30% is
[1:09:18] appropriate or if they think more or
less as far as donation grants go be
[1:09:24] appropriate.
[1:09:28] I would however
recommend that council
[1:09:33] preemptively authorize construction of
the concrete slab as the goal for this
[1:09:38] project was set to be completed prior to
winter arriving and contractors are
[1:09:43] already scheduling out quite far. So
concrete collab would be one of the
[1:09:48] cheaper parts of this at the $12,890
[1:09:54] benchmarks.
[1:09:58] So with that again, we're requesting
council authorize construction of the
[1:10:03] concrete slab immediately,
authorize staff to solicit donations,
[1:10:07] grants, and sponsorships,
[clears throat] and then direct staff to
[1:10:11] return to the city council once
donations and outside funding have
[1:10:15] totaled
whatever number the council feels is
[1:10:19] appropriate
as a ballpark figure. The 30% of the
[1:10:24] total project costs known right now
would be approximately $39,000
[1:10:29] at that 30% benchmark. And with that,
I'd be happy to answer any questions or
[1:10:34] council has.
>> Thank you, Chief Finny. Thanks for all
[1:10:39] your diligence and looking up on me
finding all this information and thank
[1:10:44] you for taking out the air conditioning
because well I don't have it [laughter]
[1:10:49] but um uh I will go to Mayor Pro.
>> Thank you. Um I I sit on the ad hoc
[1:10:57] committee so this isn't the first time
I'm seeing this. Um, I I know these
[1:11:01] numbers are big and these numbers are
scary and I think that when we do our
[1:11:05] budgets and it's not like Riadell's
rolling in a ton of money. Um, I do like
[1:11:10] the idea of looking for donations and
other um, you know, funding sources, but
[1:11:15] ultimately I don't know how much of a
choice we have about doing something
[1:11:19] like this. Uh, what we're doing now is
hanging by a thread. We're we're doing
[1:11:23] our best and we're doing a bangup job so
far um of of keeping cats out of the PD
[1:11:29] and of everybody running around trying
to deal with any dogs that do come in
[1:11:34] here. I know we have Fortuna as a backup
plan, but that's not sustainable either.
[1:11:38] It's not going to last. I think that the
goal is to be as self-sufficient as
[1:11:42] possible for the future. You know, um
I've talked to Chief about this. I think
[1:11:48] 85ish% of the dogs that we take in or
somebody's pet that we need to we need a
[1:11:53] couple days to figure it out. I don't
see this being like, oh, now we just
[1:11:57] have dogs that live here forever. You
know, I I think that most of these dogs
[1:12:02] end up going back to their owners. Um,
and I think our PD does a wonderful job
[1:12:06] of dealing with the ones that genuinely
don't have homes. Um, I [clears throat]
[1:12:10] think that we kind of have to do this.
I'm in favor of the whole thing. I want
[1:12:16] to thank public works for being
agreeable as far as like the placement
[1:12:19] of this thing. City staff has really
banded together on this and and there's
[1:12:24] a desperate need for us to be as
self-sufficient as possible and I think
[1:12:28] this is our only choice. So that's me
>> in response to what Mayor Proemp just
[1:12:34] said as a point of reference. We're
currently utilizing Fortuna kennels for
[1:12:40] storage of our canines and cats. We only
have one, sometimes two if we can
[1:12:45] negotiate a kennels available to us. And
I've heard from their staff that they
[1:12:50] will be demolishing that as part of a
sewer expansion program likely next
[1:12:56] year. So that is very short term.
>> And the last ballpark figure I got for
[1:13:01] contracting county was in the ballpark
of 130,000 per year
[1:13:08] » with travel time. And yes, council
member Wilson.
[1:13:12] » Yeah. A couple questions. Do does our
current staff to are we able to handle
[1:13:17] that with our current staff or
>> Yes, we are.
[1:13:20] » And the the other thing is were there
were Amanda said that this was 85% or
[1:13:27] people pets that got picked up. Were
those going to Miranda previously and
[1:13:31] then they wouldn't they had to go to
Miranda and get them back? Under the
[1:13:35] previous agreement, at any time we took
any animal and couldn't find the owner
[1:13:40] within a very reasonable amount of time,
hour or two, then the animal would be
[1:13:44] taken to Miranda's. They would have to
come to us, pay their fees, and then go
[1:13:47] out to Miranda's rescue, pay their fees.
>> So now that'll all be done basically in
[1:13:54] house to to the city with
>> Yes.
[1:13:56] » And then then do we have a do we have to
add something to the budget to feed
[1:14:00] these dogs and cats or do we
>> I think
[1:14:04] It can be covered under the existing
budget. It's not a very expensive cost,
[1:14:09] a couple hundred dollars a month. We're
not storing very many animals there long
[1:14:13] term. And we can always seek community
donations for assistance,
[1:14:17] » which we have lined up already if
necessary. So, yeah,
[1:14:22] » sounds good. It sounds
at least we know what's going on
[1:14:28] » instead of being blind to what we were.
Thank you.
[1:14:32] » Thank you. Council member Wall,
>> I I like the idea, but I hope that
[1:14:38] sometime we can maybe sit down and talk
about more of the little things that
[1:14:43] we'll have to handle, you know, if we
have them, how long we're going to keep
[1:14:46] them. Um, vetinarian if they need that.
I I don't want to make any mistakes that
[1:14:52] others have made in keeping animals.
Yes. Here. I want to make sure it's all
[1:14:58] and if we need um if we're going to
we'll be charging people when they come
[1:15:03] to get their pets.
>> Yes. If your animals get picked up and
[1:15:06] they're housed by the police department,
you are stored the fees for your dogs
[1:15:10] wearing boots and those fees do increase
with rate currency.
[1:15:14] » Okay. But at some point, I mean I I
would vote for this tonight, but can we
[1:15:20] at some point can we have a meeting and
talk about all the little stuff that
[1:15:23] might
>> Absolutely. This is a discussion item. I
[1:15:26] The only thing I'm recommending tonight
is that the council approve the
[1:15:30] construction of the slab here tonight.
>> Okay, that's perfect. Thank you.
[1:15:34] » Thank you. Um, and um, just looking
forward, is that from a budget
[1:15:42] standpoint as we're talking about money
and fees and all that kind of stuff, is
[1:15:46] that something that is within
the city's ability without going, you
[1:15:53] know, in a
>> it would be something that we we would
[1:15:56] need to make a budget adjustment on.
This was something that wasn't predicted
[1:15:59] during the budget cycle and when the
budget was adopted. Um the city does
[1:16:03] have reserves and this would be a
general fund expense uh as far as I I
[1:16:08] know and so we do have reserves to cover
things like this and so it is within our
[1:16:13] capacity and we would still be meeting
our minimum required reserves.
[1:16:18] Um, that's good. And and we've already
with I was also on the ad hoc committee
[1:16:24] and we talked about volunteers to help
um to support the police department. Um,
[1:16:31] and we've had people who have, you know,
spoken with that have said yes, they
[1:16:36] were willing to and and it's people that
we trust, you know, not just walking
[1:16:41] down the street, you know, random. So,
um I think that um
[1:16:48] going forward I I agree. I don't think
we have a lot of choice and I think um
[1:16:54] the sooner we do it
the because we do want to get it done
[1:16:59] before winter. Um so are the that's my
um are there any questions? Anyone any
[1:17:08] statements from public community?
>> Yeah. Yeah. When
[1:17:14] » Alison, can you say who you are for the
>> Yeah.
[1:17:19] » Oh, you are.
>> Well, I understand.
[1:17:22] » Thank you.
>> Um,
[1:17:25] do you um
do you require that if you take in an
[1:17:30] animal and report it to be claimed um
that it be?
[1:17:37] » Yes.
[1:17:41] That that's one thing that I wondered
and there's there's something it doesn't
[1:17:46] really have to police department or
there was something else that I
[1:17:52] of an issue
that would could really make a huge
[1:17:57] change
and that is
[1:18:01] apartments
allowing pets
[1:18:06] neutered pets.
It would be very very helpful especially
[1:18:12] communities with a large number of
apartments
[1:18:16] if the if the apartments did allow pets
would provide a lot more home.
[1:18:23] And then there's
something that could go along with that
[1:18:29] and that could be um apartments that
added patios
[1:18:37] » to their units
and that would make a huge difference
[1:18:45] in a lot of surrounding.
>> Absolutely.
[1:18:48] » Okay.
>> Okay. Well, thank you. I don't know that
[1:18:51] that's anything we can or should we get
law private but um but it is I I agree
[1:18:57] with you. Um I'm just saying you know
private person owns it they can do what
[1:19:03] they we can't force anyone to do
anything is all I'm saying but
[1:19:07] » but I'm but I appreciate what you're
saying and I agree absolutely that that
[1:19:12] would actually be very very helpful
>> and then you should be charged.
[1:19:16] » Oh, right.
[1:19:22] Yes.
>> So, is there
[1:19:25] any hand raise, any emails, any other
statements? Okay. Well, there is there a
[1:19:31] motion to authorize construction of a
concrete slab for the proposed police
[1:19:37] department animal kennel project?
And is there also to authorize staff to
[1:19:44] solicit donations,
grants, sponsorships, and other
[1:19:48] community funding? I'm going to stop
before I ask for this motion because I
[1:19:52] forgot we needed to talk about
percentage.
[1:19:56] » Is there a percentage of donation? Is
30% good with everyone? You want it
[1:20:01] higher?
30% good.
[1:20:06] » Okay. 30.
>> I just had to make sure I didn't forget
[1:20:08] that part. Okay. And so I then is there
a motion to authorize construction of
[1:20:15] concrete slab authorize staff to solicit
donation grant sponsorships and other
[1:20:20] community funding sources with the goal
of securing 30% and can to direct staff
[1:20:26] to return to the city once the donations
and outside funding totaling 30% is
[1:20:33] achieved.
>> So moved. I have a motion. Is there a
[1:20:37] second? Julie,
>> we have a motion and a second.
[1:20:40] » Yes.
>> Motion carries 40.
[1:20:46] » Okay. Now we will move on to continued
public hearing on the objection to the
[1:20:52] delinquent sewer service charge for
assessors parcel number 052-122-021-00
[1:21:00] and consideration of a revised report of
delinquent sewer service charges. City
[1:21:05] manager. Thank you. I'll go ahead and
turn this over to Travis Sanborn, our
[1:21:09] finance director.
>> Thank you, Mayor Garn, members of the
[1:21:13] council. On July 7th, the council held
the annual public hearing on delinquent
[1:21:18] sewer charges and adopted resolution
1675-2026
[1:21:24] confirming the report of delinquent
accounts. The property owner at 1231
[1:21:29] Iloa Avenue submitted a written
objection and asked for additional time
[1:21:33] to prepare a response.
The council continued the hearing on
[1:21:38] that one parcel to tonight. All other
parcels on the report were confirmed on
[1:21:43] July 7th and are not here before you
this evening. The account and is active
[1:21:48] is an active sewer account build
monthly. The charges are the monthly
[1:21:52] sewer service charge and the late
charges authorized under chapter 13.10
[1:21:57] and staff has reviewed the account and
can account for every line on the
[1:22:00] report. After the hearing, the property
owner, the council has two options under
[1:22:06] sections 13.10.244B.
[1:22:11] First, they can overrule the objection
and affirm the charge. Resolution number
[1:22:16] 1675-2026
already confirms the report, including
[1:22:20] this parcel. So, no further action is
needed and staff files a report as
[1:22:24] confirmed.
Second, remove or reduce the charge.
[1:22:29] That requires adopting resolution number
1677-2026
[1:22:35] which confirms a revised report and
amends resolution 1675 to this parcel
[1:22:41] only. Every other partial every other
parcel is unaffected.
[1:22:47] Staff recommends the council overrule
the objection and affirm the charge is
[1:22:50] confirmed and any account paid in full
on or before August 6th is removed from
[1:22:56] the report and nothing is placed on the
tax bill. That option remains open
[1:23:00] regardless of your action tonight.
That concludes the staff report. Believe
[1:23:05] the property owner requested time to
prepare a response and is here to
[1:23:08] present and I'd return it to the mayor
to open the continued hearing.
[1:23:12] » Thank you. We'll open the continuing
hearing and invite [clears throat] Dr.
[1:23:21] Sorry about having to bring my laptop.
>> Doesn't matter. Just
[1:23:24] » everything
you don't have one second. My name is Al
[1:23:29] Petrovich. I live in Riadell.
>> And before I before you go, I just want
[1:23:34] to say this item is it's got a 10-minute
limit. And also this is not up to be a
[1:23:41] discussion with staff. You've already
had your discussions with staff. This is
[1:23:45] you're just speaking with the council.
>> That's fine.
[1:23:48] » Thank you.
>> Yes. And thanks for 10 minutes instead
[1:23:51] of three.
>> There you go.
[1:23:54] » Well, it's it's going to be difficult to
cover over 160 years of history in this
[1:23:59] country in 10 minutes. But let me talk
about the key points. The purpose of
[1:24:05] government is to protect the people and
their product and no other purpose.
[1:24:09] Okay. Then
it's my duty to know who I am. Got to
[1:24:15] know who you are and who the other
entity is. Well, I've done a lot of
[1:24:19] research on the other entity called
government. It turns out the government
[1:24:24] all of it is corporation incorporated
and for profit and I've got proof.
[1:24:33] I want to have this if I can to you and
this is it is an internet
[1:24:40] each one of those.
[1:24:46] So back back in the history they
converted us to a corporate run and they
[1:24:53] eliminated our actual lawful government
and it happened in 1860s with the civil
[1:24:59] war and you can look it up and the
problem is we got schools that don't
[1:25:04] teach us this. There's enough
information on this paper here that you
[1:25:08] will be able to uncover that 160 years
history. Now, I'm going to have to skip
[1:25:13] forward because of my time limit to the
Federal Reserve. It's a private entity.
[1:25:19] There's no authorization board in our
government. How does this happen? We
[1:25:23] have corporations running. Even the city
of Radell is incorporated.
[1:25:28] And there's another way to prove it. You
all have Dun and Brad Street numbers.
[1:25:34] That's for-profit corporations list.
I don't happen to have those numbers
[1:25:39] with me tonight, but I do have. And so
what happened was once the Federal
[1:25:45] Reserve took over, in order to
[clears throat] legitimatize, when you
[1:25:48] read this, you'll see it, they had to
provide a remedy for the people. And the
[1:25:55] remedy is House Joint Resolution 192.
That remedy is that because they took
[1:26:00] all of our gold and our ability to pay
bills, which is what we're talking about
[1:26:05] tonight, we don't have any money. They
took it. So, they had to pass House
[1:26:11] Joint Resolution 192, 1933,
the bills, the responsibility of the
[1:26:18] United States Corporation, all of them.
Yours, mine, every one of them,
[1:26:24] mortgages, you name it. And if you look
on here
[1:26:29] on the second page, it's actually second
page. I I underline not
[1:26:37] » with they needed plausible deniability.
And even when the people knew they had a
[1:26:41] remedy and pursued it, the attorneys,
judges, and legislators could act that
[1:26:45] they did not understand the people's
claims. requiring the public schools to
[1:26:50] teach civics, government, history
classes, and approved politically
[1:26:53] correct textbooks also assured people
would not find the remedy. For a long
[1:26:58] time, they found it.
Passing new state and federal laws that
[1:27:02] appeared to subject people to rules and
regulations added another level of
[1:27:06] protection against people finding their
remedy. In 1933,
[1:27:12] the United States put its insurance
policy in place with House Foot
[1:27:16] Resolution 192, recorded it in a
congressional record. It is there.
[1:27:21] The man who read that into the record,
his name was Lewis T. McFaden. He
[1:27:26] brought formal charges May 23rd, 1933
against the Board of Governors and the
[1:27:31] Federal Reserve System, the controller
of the currency, Secretary of State, the
[1:27:35] Treasury, and uh I'm going to skip ahead
a little, Mr. McFaden claimed on June
[1:27:41] 10th, 1933. This ought to put chills in
your bag. Mr. Chairman, we have in this
[1:27:47] country one of the most corrupt
institutions the world has ever known. I
[1:27:52] refer to the Federal Reserve Board and
the Federal Reserve Banks. House Joint
[1:27:57] Resolution 192 is the insurance policy
that protects the legislators from
[1:28:01] conviction for fraud and treason against
the American people. It also protects
[1:28:06] the American people from damages caused
by the actions of the United States for
[1:28:10] speaking like he did. Mr. McFaden was
poisoned by the powers that be by the
[1:28:15] agents of the federal corporation.
This is all the history. So I study
[1:28:21] history and to study history you study
law. That's the only place you're going
[1:28:25] to find the real history. So on the city
I did a a public records request and I
[1:28:32] found out that you four members of the
council I was furnished for those
[1:28:38] all four of those are improper. They're
short versions of what's in the
[1:28:42] California constitution and I've got
copies of that. I don't have enough
[1:28:48] but the point is without a proper oath
and bond you have no power and never had
[1:28:54] it. that has to be in place before you
sit in those seats and the bond has got
[1:29:01] to be recorded and accept and it should
be in the county recorder's office.
[1:29:07] My point is that I'm not here to
chastise you in the council because
[1:29:13] there's a lot of it's either ignorance
or you're willfully and intentionally
[1:29:18] part of the scheme. These are the only
two choices and I'm hoping it it's just
[1:29:22] ignorance. years ago. I laid
constitutions down here all the time
[1:29:27] when I came up to speak, right?
>> Yeah. Do you remember me?
[1:29:31] » I did remember you
>> from 14 15 years ago.
[1:29:35] » Oh, I don't know if I remember.
>> I met you on the beach before you became
[1:29:39] a council member.
>> I do.
[1:29:40] » You remember? Yeah.
>> And I told you about this and you
[1:29:44] thought it was too big of a conspiracy,
which is understandable. When I first
[1:29:48] learned about it 25 plus years ago, I've
been digging ever since. So my point
[1:29:53] being is that these governments,
including this one, are for-profit
[1:29:58] organizations. Where the money is, I
don't know. There used to be uh caffers.
[1:30:04] Is there still cappers? Comprehensive
amal financial. Well, I'm not supposed
[1:30:08] to talk to him.
Okay. I've got a lot more now. I've got
[1:30:14] 25 years of learning. And I learned that
everything they taught me in school was
[1:30:19] not what's going on in this country. The
corporations we're dealing with are
[1:30:23] foreign.
Great Britain. Great Britain, I found
[1:30:28] out, is not a country. It's a
corporation.
[1:30:32] And that's what's running this country
as part of it. The rest of it is through
[1:30:36] the Roman civil law, through the the
Pope of all things.
[1:30:41] He is the one that can he is the one
that creates any corporation and can
[1:30:46] deny it. Right now, this matter is
before the International Criminal Court.
[1:30:51] And the 60 countries that are controlled
by these corporations, and this is one
[1:30:56] of them. And those 60 countries are
trying to withdraw from the jurisdiction
[1:31:00] of the International Criminal Court. And
by doing so, they've identified
[1:31:05] themselves. That's what's going on right
now.
[1:31:09] So, my point being is that that bill is
paid and all your bills are paid. PG&
[1:31:15] bills are paid. They know it. I did send
something to PGNA and I I don't know the
[1:31:20] exact system,
but it was like I was close.
[1:31:25] They've been paid and when we pay them,
they're getting paid a second time.
[1:31:30] It sounds incredible.
Do your research. There's a whole lot of
[1:31:34] sites on here
right here, citations where you can go.
[1:31:41] I've done my due diligence and I can
tell you this. You cannot force me to be
[1:31:45] a part of a criminal system. It's not my
nature and I don't want anything to do
[1:31:50] with it.
That's my argument. I've got a lot more,
[1:31:54] but that's a real short summary of is my
time up. No. Okay. Uh so what I'm what
[1:32:02] I'm asking the council to do is to do
what they should have done in the first
[1:32:06] place. Before you sit in the seat, you
study what your duty is. Your duty is to
[1:32:11] the people.
Study the Constitution. It's the
[1:32:16] Constitution is merely a contract. And
here's something else that might catch
[1:32:20] you guys. There's three of them. 1779
and up to the the corporate
[1:32:26] constitution. So two of them were
corporate. So where did they come from?
[1:32:31] What's the basis?
After the revolutionary war, there were
[1:32:35] treaties. Those treaties establish the
content of the constitution. And that's
[1:32:42] my next area of study are the treaties.
Just like it says in the constitution,
[1:32:47] the constitution, all treaties
to the constitution or the ruling law of
[1:32:52] the land. We're talking the law of the
land,
[1:32:55] supreme law of the land. What do I see?
I want to see our city become educated
[1:33:00] and run our our government because right
now you're a government services
[1:33:05] provider. I want to run our government
like it's intended to be. We all know
[1:33:09] something's crazy wrong with this world.
Can't put your thumb on. Well, there's a
[1:33:15] whole lot right here you can put your
thumb.
[1:33:18] Our power the the people at the
congressional level are paid.
[1:33:25] They're not paid. Okay. One other real
quick thing. Our military is paid by CO
[1:33:32] corporation which is British.
That's why they send them to war without
[1:33:36] a declaration of war. They're
mercenaries.
[1:33:39] They're for our government. It sounds
incredible and prove it. Good luck
[1:33:43] yourself. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you for the history.
[1:33:48] » You're laptop.
[1:33:55] » So I will bring this back to the
council.
[1:34:00] Julie. Um, Council Member Wilson, have
any
[1:34:06] » Well, you're over my head. Okay. I mean,
I'm I first let me say Al, I I have a
[1:34:12] tremendous amount of respect for you and
your for what you've studied and what
[1:34:17] you presented in the past with like with
the water. They told us to shut our
[1:34:21] water off. Al told us some stuff about
the rights that we have and that the
[1:34:26] state had no right to turn our water off
and the council basically snickered at
[1:34:31] him that he was
a nut. And it turned it turned out
[1:34:37] somebody else actually had the money to
to sue the state because they had to
[1:34:41] check the water flow down at the bridge
in order to justify the charge to turn
[1:34:46] us off. They found it came back and we
got a letter that said we weren't
[1:34:50] required to turn our water off. We did
not do we lowered it to 50 gallons per
[1:34:54] person per day. What I'm saying is
there's a lot of credibility in what
[1:35:00] [clears throat] my respect for out Mr.
Petra.
[1:35:04] U however on this particular thing with
the U
[1:35:11] sewer bill
if if we were at a point where this
[1:35:15] could be challenged. We have a legal
counsel that we ran our system through
[1:35:20] and he okayed it and it appears I'm not
like I say it's over my head with this
[1:35:27] whole thing with the country being legal
or not legal or I got to be bonded to be
[1:35:31] in this chair. uh
we have a we have a water system that
[1:35:36] needs to be taken care of or a sewer
system that needs to be taken care of
[1:35:41] and the rest of the city's doing that if
they're doing it wrong. Uh welcome to
[1:35:46] the crowd if you want to be a part of
this. I'm not sure if you're currently
[1:35:51] staying in Riverdale at this time. I
wanted to come up and talk to you
[1:35:54] personally, but I there's doesn't look
like anybody's in the house um with the
[1:36:00] way the cars are and the lights and
everything. So, I I didn't get up there,
[1:36:04] but um
I think you need to pay your sewer bill
[1:36:08] if you're going to stay here. That's
just the penalty of being there.
[1:36:14] » Thank you, Council Member Woodall.
I think a sew sewer bill needs to be
[1:36:19] paid but I also respect a lot of that he
has to say. Yes,
[1:36:26] » the bill needs to be paid. Yeah.
>> There anyone in
[1:36:32] community wants to speak
[1:36:37] their hand raised emails.
Then I will ask for a motion overruling
[1:36:44] the objection and affirming the charges
confirmed by resolution 1675 2026 in
[1:36:50] which case in which case no further
council action directed. So I would just
[1:36:57] ask for the overruling of the objection
and affirming the charges confirmed by
[1:37:01] resolution 1675.
>> I'll make that motion.
[1:37:03] » We have a motion. Is there a second?
>> A second. Motion and a second. Motion
[1:37:10] carries 4.0.
[1:37:14] And now we will move on to council
reports.
[1:37:21] Mayor,
>> well, I guess I don't got to tell you
[1:37:23] all to spay and neuter your pets, but I
still can't spay new to your pets and
[1:37:26] the randoms that aren't your pets,
maybe. Um, we have our nuisance advisory
[1:37:31] committee in this room, city hall
council chambers, 3 pm tomorrow. And I
[1:37:36] have a co-ad board meeting the following
Thursday via Zoom and my reduct meeting
[1:37:42] this month is cancelled. So I got a
short one this time. That's it. Thank
[1:37:46] you.
>> Thank you, Council Member Woodall.
[1:37:49] » Not much to say except Wildwood Days is
coming and everybody come down and enjoy
[1:37:53] everything. We have lots of events and
the firemen put on a very good Wildwood
[1:37:58] Days and we need to support them.
>> Thank you, Council Member Wilson. Uh
[1:38:03] nothing much other than I have as you
know our street meeting Thursday. I
[1:38:09] thank you for the board giving me
direction for the council giving me
[1:38:12] direction and uh
>> Yes.
[1:38:16] » Okay. Um and I have a
site and safety commission meeting on
[1:38:23] Thursday. Um, and I just wanted to thank
the volunteers that Tribal Park,
[1:38:31] Elizabeth Warren and Susan D'Angelo and
you well and me and Julie and the city
[1:38:39] manager who the transport um for um all
that was done down there at Triangle
[1:38:46] Park. Um it's really pretty. It's
something we can be proud of when we
[1:38:50] walk down the street. Um hopefully um
and I want to thank uh public works who
[1:38:56] have figured out a way to make the water
work down there and keep those plans
[1:39:00] alive and thriving. So I appreciate
that. Um and also I want to thank the
[1:39:06] CCC who comes out who's come out five
weekends in a row to help the community
[1:39:12] garden. Community garden was better than
it's looked. I don't ever know if it's
[1:39:16] ever looked as good as it looks right
now. But they have come out every
[1:39:20] weekend. They've worked, you know, from
9 till 3 and they are moving bricks,
[1:39:25] they're moving soil, they're digging
plots, they're doing everything that is
[1:39:30] being asked of them, and they're doing
it with a good sense of humor and a
[1:39:35] willingness to actually be there and do
whatever they need done. Um, uh, Jackie,
[1:39:41] I can't remember her last name. Really
bad about that. and Elizabeth and
[1:39:46] Kelsey, they are the main three um that
are down there and they are I mean
[1:39:52] Jackie's down there almost every single
day. They are taking those vegetables
[1:39:56] that they are growing and they're taking
them down to the resource center and
[1:40:01] turning them over to the resource center
on the Wednesday before commodities day
[1:40:05] so that the resource center can pass
them out to community. You don't have to
[1:40:09] have a a plot. they are actually picking
those veggies and taking them down there
[1:40:15] for the community. So, it's a true
community garden. It's truly meant to
[1:40:20] help everyone in this community feed
everyone and keep everyone and healthy.
[1:40:24] And so, I just wanted to give a shout
out to them. They their grand opening is
[1:40:31] on
>> Sundays
[1:40:36] is there's a flyer on the kiosk. Yeah,
there's a flyer on the kiosk. But I
[1:40:39] think it's Friday, Saturday, Friday. I
know for sure Saturday they'll have the
[1:40:44] gate open at the front on Wildwood. Even
though the Flyers have Butcher Street,
[1:40:48] the gate will be open on Wildwood and
hopefully they were trying to work out a
[1:40:53] shuttle. So hopefully they have worked
that out to get people like from
[1:40:56] downtown up here. Um, but they have
really worked hard. Uh, Jen, you'll see
[1:41:03] a sign that's going to be up there. It
is absolutely beautiful. She painted it.
[1:41:07] She hand painted it. It looks like sign
that we said we wanted on on the
[1:41:12] highway. Riadell Community Garden with
the logo with the redwood trees with the
[1:41:17] bluffs and um it's like four 4 by eight
4 by eight I mean and and she hand
[1:41:25] painted the whole thing and it is
absolutely beautiful. So I want to thank
[1:41:28] her as well and um I think that's all
that I have.
[1:41:32] » Yes. You know, when we were talking
about the triangle part, I wanted to
[1:41:36] thank Cindy Treadwell because she's
>> she kind of got it on her after she
[1:41:40] weeded the whole thing.
>> Absolutely. And that's sort of got us
[1:41:44] rolling and I apologize Cindy if you're
paying attention. Julie was right and I
[1:41:49] apologize. Thank you very much. Uh Cindy
Treadwell. So um I think that is all and
[1:41:55] I will ask for a motion to adjurnn. So
move
[1:41:57] » a motion a second.
>> Meeting adjourned until August 4th, 2026
[1:42:04] at 6 p.m. Thank you everyone for coming.