1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:01,314 Body meeting to order. 2 00:00:01,314 --> 00:00:03,417 Councilor Tyler will lead us in 3 00:00:03,417 --> 00:00:05,185 the pledge. I pledge allegiance 4 00:00:05,185 --> 00:00:07,687 to the flag of the United 5 00:00:07,687 --> 00:00:09,523 States of America and to the 6 00:00:09,523 --> 00:00:12,392 Republic for which it stands. 7 00:00:12,392 --> 00:00:13,827 One nation under GOD, 8 00:00:13,827 --> 00:00:15,962 indivisible, with liberty and 9 00:00:15,962 --> 00:00:18,962 justice for all. Please remain 10 00:00:19,632 --> 00:00:21,134 standing. I'd like to take a 11 00:00:21,134 --> 00:00:23,937 moment to recognize the brave 12 00:00:23,937 --> 00:00:26,139 men and women from our law 13 00:00:26,139 --> 00:00:27,874 enforcement folks that are 14 00:00:27,874 --> 00:00:28,975 always out there protecting us, 15 00:00:28,975 --> 00:00:30,877 and are always putting their 16 00:00:30,877 --> 00:00:32,880 lives on the line. I also want 17 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,820 to take a minute on the eve of 18 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:36,850 the nine over 11 catastrophe, 19 00:00:36,850 --> 00:00:38,519 to thank and to try to remember 20 00:00:38,519 --> 00:00:39,754 all of the folks who lost their 21 00:00:39,754 --> 00:00:41,889 lives, including the brave 22 00:00:41,889 --> 00:00:44,889 firefighters who went into the 23 00:00:48,596 --> 00:00:51,596 nine over 11 towers. Thank you. 24 00:00:56,303 --> 00:00:59,903 You MAY be seated. All right. 25 00:01:00,675 --> 00:01:01,742 Take. Please. Silence all 26 00:01:01,742 --> 00:01:02,810 electronic devices while 27 00:01:02,810 --> 00:01:04,244 attending the governing body 28 00:01:04,244 --> 00:01:05,913 meeting. For the record, I will 29 00:01:05,913 --> 00:01:06,948 announce the names of the 30 00:01:06,948 --> 00:01:08,490 governing body members. When I 31 00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:09,250 say your name, please 32 00:01:09,250 --> 00:01:11,485 acknowledge your presence by 33 00:01:11,485 --> 00:01:13,654 saying present Councilor Dobson, 34 00:01:13,654 --> 00:01:15,890 present Council PRESIDENT, 35 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:16,590 Councilor Tyler, present 36 00:01:16,590 --> 00:01:18,325 councilor man. Present, 37 00:01:18,325 --> 00:01:20,325 councilor, present and 38 00:01:21,162 --> 00:01:22,163 councilor. List present 39 00:01:22,163 --> 00:01:23,698 proclamations and awards of 40 00:01:23,698 --> 00:01:26,200 merit. We do not have any this 41 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,334 evening. Public forum. Each 42 00:01:27,334 --> 00:01:29,137 comment will be limited to two 43 00:01:29,137 --> 00:01:30,404 minutes and no more than two 44 00:01:30,404 --> 00:01:32,730 hours in total will be allotted 45 00:01:32,730 --> 00:01:33,407 to the public forum. Comments. 46 00:01:33,407 --> 00:01:35,209 At any meeting, each speaker 47 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:36,778 must state their name and 48 00:01:36,778 --> 00:01:39,778 address or Rio Rancho District. 49 00:01:39,881 --> 00:01:41,282 For the record, and I know 50 00:01:41,282 --> 00:01:44,282 we've got one, two, three. 51 00:01:44,518 --> 00:01:46,353 Looks like six people signed up. 52 00:01:46,353 --> 00:01:47,823 We're going to follow strict 53 00:01:47,823 --> 00:01:49,591 decorum during this public 54 00:01:49,591 --> 00:01:51,759 forum. What that means is we 55 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:54,159 will not tolerate clapping, 56 00:01:54,295 --> 00:01:57,198 whistling, or any sort of other 57 00:01:57,198 --> 00:01:59,267 booing, sign waving or anything. 58 00:01:59,267 --> 00:02:01,503 If we can't, if we can't abide 59 00:02:01,503 --> 00:02:05,703 by that quorum, we will ask you 60 00:02:06,174 --> 00:02:09,774 to leave the chambers. First up, 61 00:02:16,952 --> 00:02:17,237 Grace Dukes. MISS Dukes. 62 00:02:17,237 --> 00:02:19,121 Mayor, 63 00:02:19,121 --> 00:02:21,623 my name is Grace Dukes, and I'm 64 00:02:21,623 --> 00:02:24,230 an Albuquerque resident. So 65 00:02:24,225 --> 00:02:27,825 what's going on here? A small 66 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:29,364 town of almost 115,000 people. 67 00:02:29,364 --> 00:02:31,990 Which is the second largest 68 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:33,168 city in the state, which is 69 00:02:33,168 --> 00:02:34,936 even more captured by 70 00:02:34,936 --> 00:02:37,773 bureaucracy than the city of 71 00:02:37,773 --> 00:02:39,641 Albuquerque. What? The logic 72 00:02:39,641 --> 00:02:41,510 isn't carrying in my head. As 73 00:02:41,510 --> 00:02:44,790 soon as the slightest level of 74 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:46,181 scrutiny comes upon this body, 75 00:02:46,181 --> 00:02:48,283 it folds under the pressure. 76 00:02:48,283 --> 00:02:51,186 Good job. What a good way to 77 00:02:51,186 --> 00:02:53,288 run the second largest city in 78 00:02:53,288 --> 00:02:55,490 the state. It's like you took 79 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:56,926 the Tarrant County, Texas, 80 00:02:56,926 --> 00:02:59,270 commissioners and cloned them 81 00:02:59,270 --> 00:03:00,896 and put them in a city council. 82 00:03:00,896 --> 00:03:02,698 Paul. MR. Mayor, you are the 83 00:03:02,698 --> 00:03:04,833 central figure in this Tarrant 84 00:03:04,833 --> 00:03:07,360 County clone for continuing to 85 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,804 violate people's rights. They 86 00:03:08,804 --> 00:03:10,606 close polling places. Hurt you 87 00:03:10,606 --> 00:03:12,400 gavel when applause is given to 88 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,242 opinions you you don't like 89 00:03:14,242 --> 00:03:16,120 because of decorum. This is not 90 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,881 a mature way to run a city, and 91 00:03:18,881 --> 00:03:21,160 it is deeply unserious. I truly 92 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,518 feel bad for the people of Rio 93 00:03:22,518 --> 00:03:23,919 Rancho for having to be 94 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,319 burdened with this incompetent. 95 00:03:26,456 --> 00:03:27,857 Of a city council, mayor in 96 00:03:27,857 --> 00:03:28,958 government. I hope that they 97 00:03:28,958 --> 00:03:30,726 realize what they got 98 00:03:30,726 --> 00:03:33,462 themselves into and that they 99 00:03:33,462 --> 00:03:35,130 recall you, Paul, and replace 100 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:36,499 you with the real mayor. Not a 101 00:03:36,499 --> 00:03:38,167 make believe mayor with the 102 00:03:38,167 --> 00:03:40,169 gavel you like to throw down. 103 00:03:40,169 --> 00:03:41,904 When people clap. Also, just so 104 00:03:41,904 --> 00:03:43,380 you know, none of us voted to 105 00:03:43,380 --> 00:03:45,438 have our Fourth Amendment 106 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:49,178 rights violated for these flock. 107 00:03:49,178 --> 00:03:52,178 A lpr surveillance cameras, and 108 00:03:52,415 --> 00:03:54,150 we want them gone. Thank you. 109 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:57,750 Thank you, MISS Dukes. Next up, 110 00:04:06,290 --> 00:04:06,929 Joaquin Montoya. 111 00:04:06,929 --> 00:04:08,631 Good evening, 112 00:04:08,631 --> 00:04:10,366 mayor and council members. My 113 00:04:10,366 --> 00:04:12,134 name is Joaquin Montoya. I'm 114 00:04:12,134 --> 00:04:14,304 speaking on behalf of New 115 00:04:14,304 --> 00:04:15,405 Mexico. While I am not a 116 00:04:15,405 --> 00:04:16,806 resident of Rio Rancho, I 117 00:04:16,806 --> 00:04:18,274 conduct business here and have 118 00:04:18,274 --> 00:04:21,210 family members here, so my 119 00:04:21,210 --> 00:04:22,546 concerns remain the same. You 120 00:04:22,546 --> 00:04:24,546 have described mass 121 00:04:24,714 --> 00:04:26,216 surveillance as an emotional 122 00:04:26,216 --> 00:04:28,351 issue. We've heard from both 123 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:29,552 sides. So let me present 124 00:04:29,552 --> 00:04:31,988 something that is not emotional 125 00:04:31,988 --> 00:04:34,124 at all. It's a math block, 126 00:04:34,124 --> 00:04:36,660 markets its cameras at more 127 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:39,600 than 93% accurate. But in 128 00:04:39,128 --> 00:04:40,930 Roseville County, California, 129 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:43,930 police ran their own analysis 130 00:04:45,735 --> 00:04:47,471 of 1400 cameras and 71% of them 131 00:04:47,471 --> 00:04:48,872 came out wrong. That's seven 132 00:04:48,872 --> 00:04:50,673 out of ten alerts flagged. 133 00:04:50,673 --> 00:04:52,108 Innocent people, innocent 134 00:04:52,108 --> 00:04:54,311 people's vehicles as stolen or 135 00:04:54,311 --> 00:04:56,245 connected to a felony. Any 136 00:04:56,245 --> 00:04:57,914 local precedent check. Espanol 137 00:04:57,914 --> 00:04:59,483 in New Mexico, a 12 year old 138 00:04:59,483 --> 00:05:01,117 was placed in handcuffs after a 139 00:05:01,117 --> 00:05:04,120 flock camera misread a two for 140 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,890 a seven. Later. A month later, 141 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:08,125 a 17 year old in a different 142 00:05:08,125 --> 00:05:09,526 incident was held at gunpoint 143 00:05:09,526 --> 00:05:11,928 on his way home from school. 144 00:05:11,928 --> 00:05:13,697 The same technology, same error 145 00:05:13,697 --> 00:05:16,233 in Aurora, Colorado. A mom, a 146 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:19,690 mom and children were forced to 147 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:22,339 face lay down, forced to face 148 00:05:22,339 --> 00:05:24,508 late, lay down, face on the hot 149 00:05:24,508 --> 00:05:25,609 pavement. Sorry because flock 150 00:05:25,609 --> 00:05:27,411 cameras matched a Colorado 151 00:05:27,411 --> 00:05:30,347 plate to a stolen Montana 152 00:05:30,347 --> 00:05:32,347 motorcycle. Aurora paid 1.9 153 00:05:32,817 --> 00:05:34,251 million to settle that case in 154 00:05:34,251 --> 00:05:36,387 Ventura County. Fox owned 155 00:05:36,387 --> 00:05:38,656 systems secretly enabled a 156 00:05:38,656 --> 00:05:40,124 nationwide data sharing setting 157 00:05:40,124 --> 00:05:42,524 that is. Sheriff's office 158 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:45,763 turned off without the agency's 159 00:05:45,763 --> 00:05:47,164 knowledge, resulting in 34,000 160 00:05:47,164 --> 00:05:49,433 unauthorized searches of local 161 00:05:49,433 --> 00:05:51,433 plate data, including 299 162 00:05:52,236 --> 00:05:53,704 searches explicitly citing 163 00:05:53,704 --> 00:05:55,540 immigration enforcement, a 164 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:57,608 class action lawsuit followed. 165 00:05:57,608 --> 00:05:58,709 Based off of unpublished data, 166 00:05:58,709 --> 00:06:01,109 20 billion plate reads per 167 00:06:01,979 --> 00:06:04,115 month. Nationally, there are 168 00:06:04,115 --> 00:06:06,515 93% accuracy, which is a 7% 169 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:09,451 error that equates to 1.4 170 00:06:10,954 --> 00:06:13,354 billion misreads. Most didn't 171 00:06:13,491 --> 00:06:15,226 result in stops, but some do. 172 00:06:15,226 --> 00:06:17,595 Every. Every stop is a lawsuit 173 00:06:17,595 --> 00:06:19,764 waiting to happen. Rio Rancho 174 00:06:19,764 --> 00:06:22,500 prides itself as a responsible 175 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:23,568 and fiscal governance. This 176 00:06:23,568 --> 00:06:25,568 technology demonstrated 177 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:28,390 financial liability, accuracy, 178 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:29,874 failures, data sharing failures 179 00:06:29,874 --> 00:06:30,875 all documented, not theoretical. 180 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:33,278 MISTER Montoya, are you about 181 00:06:33,278 --> 00:06:36,214 done? Your two minutes are up. 182 00:06:36,214 --> 00:06:37,949 Thank you. Next up, Ronald, and 183 00:06:37,949 --> 00:06:41,549 I'm probably going to say this 184 00:06:42,987 --> 00:06:43,162 wrong. Birkeland, I. 185 00:06:43,162 --> 00:06:45,162 Council. 186 00:06:45,924 --> 00:06:47,192 It's glad. I'm glad to be back. 187 00:06:47,192 --> 00:06:49,270 I just want to say. Anything I 188 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:50,896 ever say to you guys is not 189 00:06:50,896 --> 00:06:52,129 meant to be a personal attack, 190 00:06:52,129 --> 00:06:53,899 as I have a great deal of 191 00:06:53,899 --> 00:06:55,660 respect for what you're doing 192 00:06:55,660 --> 00:06:56,934 because you don't have to do it 193 00:06:56,934 --> 00:06:58,136 right. With that being said, I 194 00:06:58,136 --> 00:07:00,380 will say that I think it's 195 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:02,474 ironic that we have the Pledge 196 00:07:02,474 --> 00:07:04,576 of Allegiance in in the docket 197 00:07:04,576 --> 00:07:05,677 here. While we continue to 198 00:07:05,677 --> 00:07:07,512 violate the Fourth Amendment 199 00:07:07,512 --> 00:07:11,112 rights of everybody in the room 200 00:07:12,851 --> 00:07:16,870 and in Rio Rancho. I do know, 201 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:17,555 sir, that you're in a unique 202 00:07:17,555 --> 00:07:19,324 position to where the flock 203 00:07:19,324 --> 00:07:21,590 cameras probably worked and 204 00:07:21,590 --> 00:07:23,127 very well before you took the 205 00:07:23,127 --> 00:07:25,630 seat here. And they probably 206 00:07:25,630 --> 00:07:26,564 are a very good tool in 207 00:07:26,564 --> 00:07:28,564 combating crime. However, 208 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:31,203 that's not really a fair trade 209 00:07:31,203 --> 00:07:33,372 off for the violation of 210 00:07:33,372 --> 00:07:34,806 everybody's rights, and I hope 211 00:07:34,806 --> 00:07:37,375 that you guys can consider that 212 00:07:37,375 --> 00:07:38,777 deeply when you go home tonight. 213 00:07:38,777 --> 00:07:40,946 I do know that our police 214 00:07:40,946 --> 00:07:42,781 department is fantastic. I was 215 00:07:42,781 --> 00:07:45,317 given a good conversation by a 216 00:07:45,317 --> 00:07:46,752 captain here who is in in 217 00:07:46,752 --> 00:07:49,254 charge of the, I guess the 218 00:07:49,254 --> 00:07:50,322 traffic in Rio Rancho. And he 219 00:07:50,322 --> 00:07:53,322 seems to be very confident. 220 00:07:54,259 --> 00:07:56,528 They have a good like hold on 221 00:07:56,528 --> 00:07:58,964 the on the police officers and 222 00:07:58,964 --> 00:08:00,766 any discrepancies they might 223 00:08:00,766 --> 00:08:03,635 violate, I guess, within the 224 00:08:03,635 --> 00:08:04,603 city. But still, that doesn't 225 00:08:04,603 --> 00:08:06,505 mean we should violate 226 00:08:06,505 --> 00:08:08,274 everybody's rights. Plain and 227 00:08:08,274 --> 00:08:09,308 simple. You know, I hold the 228 00:08:09,308 --> 00:08:11,177 background of everything that 229 00:08:11,177 --> 00:08:12,278 you guys have done in your 230 00:08:12,278 --> 00:08:13,712 careers just a little bit. 231 00:08:13,712 --> 00:08:16,112 Maybe not architecture, sir, 232 00:08:16,949 --> 00:08:18,917 but I've done a lot of things. 233 00:08:18,917 --> 00:08:20,219 And I know deep down inside 234 00:08:20,219 --> 00:08:22,488 it's not right. And it's got to 235 00:08:22,488 --> 00:08:24,389 change. I appreciate your time. 236 00:08:24,389 --> 00:08:25,758 I can't stay any longer. I have 237 00:08:25,758 --> 00:08:26,392 to go. I have other obligations. 238 00:08:26,392 --> 00:08:28,126 Thank you. 239 00:08:28,126 --> 00:08:30,526 Thank you. Next up, 240 00:08:38,171 --> 00:08:38,905 Casey Robinson. 241 00:08:38,905 --> 00:08:40,273 Good evening, 242 00:08:40,273 --> 00:08:43,276 MR. Mayor. And members of the 243 00:08:43,276 --> 00:08:45,100 governing body. I think it's no 244 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:46,445 surprise we all know that 245 00:08:46,445 --> 00:08:49,445 politically, most of us don't 246 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:51,918 agree with me and vice versa. I 247 00:08:51,918 --> 00:08:54,530 want to say this first, though, 248 00:08:54,530 --> 00:08:55,855 just so you know, put this out 249 00:08:55,855 --> 00:08:56,989 there. We know I'm a member of 250 00:08:56,989 --> 00:08:58,358 district two. I'm not involved 251 00:08:58,358 --> 00:08:59,759 with this organization. Not 252 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:00,960 that I disagree with them, but 253 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,829 I'm going to talk about some 254 00:09:02,829 --> 00:09:05,164 real world and how it affects 255 00:09:05,164 --> 00:09:07,466 us here in Rio Rancho and the 256 00:09:07,466 --> 00:09:09,102 things that we all care about. 257 00:09:09,102 --> 00:09:11,710 And maybe shock you with a 258 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:12,271 quote we have on the far left, 259 00:09:12,271 --> 00:09:14,173 because I know most of you were 260 00:09:14,173 --> 00:09:15,175 kind of shocked when you heard 261 00:09:15,175 --> 00:09:16,242 that. I'm actually don't 262 00:09:16,242 --> 00:09:18,780 consider myself a Democrat 263 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:19,246 because I find them too far to 264 00:09:19,246 --> 00:09:21,810 the right. There's a quote we 265 00:09:21,810 --> 00:09:23,182 use that says it's further left. 266 00:09:23,182 --> 00:09:25,185 You go, you get your guns back. 267 00:09:25,185 --> 00:09:26,886 So let me ask you, how many of 268 00:09:26,886 --> 00:09:29,422 you go to the gun range? Don't 269 00:09:29,422 --> 00:09:31,910 think flock sees that I'm a Jew 270 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:33,259 whose family comes from from 271 00:09:33,259 --> 00:09:34,694 Eastern Europe. First thing 272 00:09:34,694 --> 00:09:36,129 they did was took our 273 00:09:36,129 --> 00:09:38,999 information and kept it on 274 00:09:38,999 --> 00:09:40,266 files. And it wasn't done by 275 00:09:40,266 --> 00:09:41,968 the Nazis. It was stuff that 276 00:09:41,968 --> 00:09:43,336 was done before the Nazis took 277 00:09:43,336 --> 00:09:45,171 power, and it was used when 278 00:09:45,171 --> 00:09:46,840 they were. Now, do I expect 279 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,410 that to happen here in the us? 280 00:09:48,410 --> 00:09:49,843 No, but there's also been a lot 281 00:09:49,843 --> 00:09:51,780 of things that have happened 282 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:52,846 here in the last 20 years that 283 00:09:52,846 --> 00:09:54,180 I've never expected to happen. 284 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:56,349 And I think we have a great 285 00:09:56,349 --> 00:09:57,418 police force here is absolutely 286 00:09:57,418 --> 00:09:58,919 shocking for somebody of my 287 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:00,721 political leaning to say, and I 288 00:10:00,721 --> 00:10:01,822 absolutely love our chief. That 289 00:10:01,822 --> 00:10:04,557 said, let's talk about what 290 00:10:04,557 --> 00:10:07,193 else can really happen. Go to a 291 00:10:07,193 --> 00:10:08,929 cancer treatment center. It 292 00:10:08,929 --> 00:10:10,196 gets found now, is the 293 00:10:10,196 --> 00:10:11,431 government going to use that? 294 00:10:11,431 --> 00:10:14,501 No, but this is a private 295 00:10:14,501 --> 00:10:16,700 company. We know how scrupulous 296 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:18,272 lots of these large private 297 00:10:18,272 --> 00:10:19,940 companies truly are. And they 298 00:10:19,940 --> 00:10:21,700 tell me that they won't sell 299 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:22,142 off their information or not 300 00:10:22,142 --> 00:10:23,377 care about putting money into 301 00:10:23,377 --> 00:10:24,345 data protection and a data 302 00:10:24,345 --> 00:10:25,446 breach. And your health 303 00:10:25,446 --> 00:10:27,648 insurance company finds out 304 00:10:27,648 --> 00:10:29,249 that finds certain information, 305 00:10:29,249 --> 00:10:30,584 or are you trying get different 306 00:10:30,584 --> 00:10:33,584 level of insurance? And next 307 00:10:33,754 --> 00:10:35,923 your rates go up. These are 308 00:10:35,923 --> 00:10:37,691 real things to pay attention to. 309 00:10:37,691 --> 00:10:39,994 There is a reason we have this, 310 00:10:39,994 --> 00:10:41,328 and we are talking about safety. 311 00:10:41,328 --> 00:10:43,564 And so I'll remind you with 312 00:10:43,564 --> 00:10:45,320 this little quote, those who 313 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,680 would give up essential liberty 314 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:49,270 to purchase a little temporary 315 00:10:49,270 --> 00:10:50,671 safety deserve neither liberty 316 00:10:50,671 --> 00:10:51,772 nor safety. And that was 317 00:10:51,772 --> 00:10:52,139 Benjamin Franklin. 318 00:10:52,139 --> 00:10:53,907 Thank you, 319 00:10:53,907 --> 00:10:56,907 MR. Robinson. Next up, Corinne 320 00:11:10,524 --> 00:11:11,659 Rios. 321 00:11:11,659 --> 00:11:13,528 Good evening. My name is 322 00:11:13,528 --> 00:11:14,662 Corinne Rios. I live here in 323 00:11:14,662 --> 00:11:16,598 Rio Rancho, and most of you 324 00:11:16,598 --> 00:11:18,660 know me already. I'm here 325 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:21,660 tonight to ask one simple 326 00:11:21,268 --> 00:11:24,171 question. Where is our money? 327 00:11:24,171 --> 00:11:26,407 Every year, every JULY 1st 328 00:11:26,407 --> 00:11:28,807 since 2020, Rio Rancho water 329 00:11:28,843 --> 00:11:30,645 rates have increased. And every 330 00:11:30,645 --> 00:11:32,813 year the city failed to 331 00:11:32,813 --> 00:11:35,213 properly prorate bills that 332 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:37,519 crossed that JULY 1st rate 333 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:39,621 increase. The city has 334 00:11:39,621 --> 00:11:41,789 acknowledged the air. The city 335 00:11:41,789 --> 00:11:43,991 has acknowledged residents were 336 00:11:43,991 --> 00:11:45,794 overcharged and we were told we 337 00:11:45,794 --> 00:11:47,962 would get our money back. It 338 00:11:47,962 --> 00:11:50,640 has now been a year since I 339 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,464 first alerted Steve Gallegos, 340 00:11:52,967 --> 00:11:55,504 the city manager knows the 341 00:11:55,504 --> 00:11:57,639 deputy city manager knows, 342 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:59,807 mayor Weimer knows, and I'm 343 00:11:59,807 --> 00:12:02,100 hoping that the members of this 344 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:04,145 governing body know. So I'm 345 00:12:04,145 --> 00:12:05,947 here asking, when will the 346 00:12:05,947 --> 00:12:08,947 residents of Rio Rancho get 347 00:12:12,787 --> 00:12:13,488 their money back? 348 00:12:13,488 --> 00:12:15,560 This is 349 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:17,580 public forum for you to comment. 350 00:12:17,580 --> 00:12:17,392 We do not have a back and forth 351 00:12:17,392 --> 00:12:18,159 conversation. 352 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:19,961 I know the rules, 353 00:12:19,961 --> 00:12:21,496 MR. Mayor, and I'm going to 354 00:12:21,496 --> 00:12:23,665 stand here for my full two 355 00:12:23,665 --> 00:12:26,665 minutes with the question, when 356 00:12:42,751 --> 00:12:46,351 will we get our money back? 357 00:13:15,117 --> 00:13:15,447 Thank you very much. 358 00:13:15,447 --> 00:13:17,119 Thank you, 359 00:13:17,119 --> 00:13:20,119 MISS Rios. Next up, Michael 360 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:30,599 Farrell. 361 00:13:30,599 --> 00:13:33,360 I'm going to use my 362 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,804 two minutes, guys. So, mayor, 363 00:13:34,804 --> 00:13:37,390 members of the governing body, 364 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:39,174 thank you for this generous two 365 00:13:39,174 --> 00:13:40,976 minutes you've granted me to 366 00:13:40,976 --> 00:13:43,376 exercise my First Amendment 367 00:13:43,813 --> 00:13:45,982 right and to address my the 368 00:13:45,982 --> 00:13:48,382 government. Mayor Weimer likes 369 00:13:48,851 --> 00:13:50,686 to talk and tell us about this 370 00:13:50,686 --> 00:13:53,860 silent majority. Does anybody 371 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:54,691 actually seen them at this 372 00:13:54,691 --> 00:13:57,526 point? I think a lot of us 373 00:13:57,526 --> 00:13:59,662 would really like to meet the 374 00:13:59,662 --> 00:14:02,662 Flockers. Here's what I find 375 00:14:02,932 --> 00:14:05,332 interesting. Just last DECEMBER, 376 00:14:05,802 --> 00:14:08,710 the city made Ipra reform a 377 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:09,405 legislative priority. Just 378 00:14:09,405 --> 00:14:11,208 worried about privacy was a 379 00:14:11,208 --> 00:14:12,976 huge concern. We heard about 380 00:14:12,976 --> 00:14:15,211 body camera footage, people's 381 00:14:15,211 --> 00:14:16,612 homes, commercial data brokers, 382 00:14:16,612 --> 00:14:18,748 records being resold and 383 00:14:18,748 --> 00:14:19,849 personal information being 384 00:14:19,849 --> 00:14:22,686 misused. We heard all about 385 00:14:22,686 --> 00:14:24,154 that. You guys told us very 386 00:14:24,154 --> 00:14:26,554 touching. Concern for our 387 00:14:26,656 --> 00:14:28,992 privacy. But for the eight for 388 00:14:28,992 --> 00:14:30,260 probably the last 8 to 10 years, 389 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:32,395 the city has been collecting 390 00:14:32,395 --> 00:14:34,597 license plates, recording where 391 00:14:34,597 --> 00:14:36,766 vehicles are seen, building 392 00:14:36,766 --> 00:14:38,201 searchable databases and 393 00:14:38,201 --> 00:14:40,200 expanding into Axon and Fuzes 394 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,200 with hundreds of camera feeds 395 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:45,775 and ai enabled streams. And 396 00:14:45,775 --> 00:14:48,175 suddenly privacy gets real 397 00:14:48,178 --> 00:14:49,779 quiet again, almost as quiet as 398 00:14:49,779 --> 00:14:52,779 that silent majority that you 399 00:14:52,983 --> 00:14:54,752 talk about when we ask for your 400 00:14:54,752 --> 00:14:56,186 information. Private sacred 401 00:14:56,186 --> 00:14:58,586 privacy, sacred. When you 402 00:14:58,721 --> 00:15:01,121 collect our information, it's 403 00:15:01,258 --> 00:15:03,600 public safety. How convenient. 404 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,494 You can't have it both ways. I 405 00:15:04,494 --> 00:15:06,596 want to be clear. This isn't 406 00:15:06,596 --> 00:15:08,640 about anti-police. We know that 407 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,267 this works in crime. We know 408 00:15:10,267 --> 00:15:12,403 that this this follows our 409 00:15:12,403 --> 00:15:13,871 travel. I was reminded today 410 00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:15,739 about how Albertsons takes all 411 00:15:15,739 --> 00:15:16,773 of your information. I don't 412 00:15:16,773 --> 00:15:17,841 care if they take my 413 00:15:17,841 --> 00:15:19,643 information. I'm not worried 414 00:15:19,643 --> 00:15:20,711 about them taking my money. I'm 415 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:21,779 worried about knowing where I'm 416 00:15:21,779 --> 00:15:23,180 traveling, what we're doing. 417 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:24,948 Like these other people said, 418 00:15:24,948 --> 00:15:26,830 it builds up. It's a dragnet. 419 00:15:26,830 --> 00:15:27,851 And when, when, when are we 420 00:15:27,851 --> 00:15:29,286 going to finally realize that 421 00:15:29,286 --> 00:15:31,686 that's what's being created 422 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:34,956 here? It's an unwarranted 423 00:15:35,392 --> 00:15:36,660 dragnet. And Weimer, if that 424 00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:38,280 silent majority really supports 425 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,163 all of this, bring them down 426 00:15:39,163 --> 00:15:41,265 here. We'd like to hear from 427 00:15:41,265 --> 00:15:44,865 them. We'd all love to finally 428 00:15:45,469 --> 00:15:47,337 meet the Flockers. 429 00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:48,772 Thank you. 430 00:15:48,772 --> 00:15:50,575 Do anybody else signed up for a 431 00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:50,908 public forum, MISS Davis? 432 00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:51,942 No, 433 00:15:51,942 --> 00:15:52,777 sir, we do not. 434 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,777 All right. Then 435 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:57,140 we will move on to comments by 436 00:15:57,140 --> 00:16:00,140 counselors. Do any comments by 437 00:16:01,385 --> 00:16:02,520 counselors? MR. Mayor, 438 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,520 counselor Tyler. 439 00:16:04,555 --> 00:16:06,230 You had. I 440 00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:07,826 just want to commend the police 441 00:16:07,826 --> 00:16:10,226 department. We had unfortunate 442 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:12,530 incidents over in my area where 443 00:16:12,530 --> 00:16:14,530 three businesses were 444 00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:17,168 burglarized and within 24 hours, 445 00:16:17,168 --> 00:16:20,168 40 hours, I guess maybe what 446 00:16:21,506 --> 00:16:23,641 was it, 30, 24 hours? They were 447 00:16:23,641 --> 00:16:25,142 able to catch the offender who 448 00:16:25,142 --> 00:16:27,245 broke into all three businesses. 449 00:16:27,245 --> 00:16:28,913 So I want to commend them on a 450 00:16:28,913 --> 00:16:30,140 job well done. And thank you 451 00:16:30,140 --> 00:16:31,182 for using technology to solve 452 00:16:31,182 --> 00:16:34,510 that crime. I appreciate it, 453 00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:35,530 thank you. 454 00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:37,530 Thank you, MR. 455 00:16:37,355 --> 00:16:39,755 Taylor. Anything further from 456 00:16:40,158 --> 00:16:42,558 council? MR. Counselor? List? 457 00:16:44,495 --> 00:16:46,298 MR. Mayor, I just wanted to. 458 00:16:46,298 --> 00:16:47,766 Just put out there that I know 459 00:16:47,766 --> 00:16:48,867 that when we were here before, 460 00:16:48,867 --> 00:16:50,702 right at the start of the 461 00:16:50,702 --> 00:16:53,137 school, there was a lot of 462 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:54,539 concerns in the zenith 528 area 463 00:16:54,539 --> 00:16:56,474 about congestion and traffic. I 464 00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:57,742 do believe that now that people 465 00:16:57,742 --> 00:16:59,110 are back in routine, I think 466 00:16:59,110 --> 00:17:00,645 some things have naturally 467 00:17:00,645 --> 00:17:02,814 calmed down. I also think that 468 00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:03,948 one of the educational entities 469 00:17:03,948 --> 00:17:05,717 has made some adjustments, and 470 00:17:05,717 --> 00:17:07,118 that has also helped. I just 471 00:17:07,118 --> 00:17:08,520 want to let everybody know that 472 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,788 is concerned about that, that 473 00:17:09,788 --> 00:17:11,550 this is an ongoing process and 474 00:17:11,550 --> 00:17:12,957 that we are still working 475 00:17:12,957 --> 00:17:15,461 towards a long term resolution. 476 00:17:15,461 --> 00:17:15,761 So thank you. 477 00:17:15,761 --> 00:17:17,761 Thank you. 478 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:21,199 Counselor. Anything further? 479 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:23,302 Hearing none, we'll move on to 480 00:17:23,302 --> 00:17:24,770 the consent calendar. MISS 481 00:17:24,770 --> 00:17:26,204 Davis, I noticed a scrivener's 482 00:17:26,204 --> 00:17:27,272 error in the work session 483 00:17:27,272 --> 00:17:29,474 minutes. Will you please update 484 00:17:29,474 --> 00:17:30,909 the minutes to reflect my name 485 00:17:30,909 --> 00:17:32,343 as Mayor Weimer instead of 486 00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:33,779 Councilor Weimer? I believe the 487 00:17:33,779 --> 00:17:34,946 rest of the. 488 00:17:34,946 --> 00:17:36,848 Yes, sir. And I 489 00:17:36,848 --> 00:17:38,160 will do my best. This meeting 490 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,885 to address you properly as well. 491 00:17:39,885 --> 00:17:40,886 Yes, I understand this is 492 00:17:40,886 --> 00:17:43,286 something we're all still 493 00:17:43,422 --> 00:17:44,723 getting used to. So can I get a 494 00:17:44,723 --> 00:17:46,558 motion on the consent calendar? 495 00:17:46,558 --> 00:17:46,826 Make a motion on the consent 496 00:17:46,826 --> 00:17:47,826 calendar. 497 00:17:47,826 --> 00:17:50,226 Second, I have a 498 00:17:51,290 --> 00:17:53,933 motion and a second, MISS Davis. 499 00:17:53,933 --> 00:17:55,000 Thank you, counselor Lentine. 500 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Yes. 501 00:17:57,169 --> 00:17:58,604 Counselor. Culbreth. Yes, 502 00:17:58,604 --> 00:17:59,338 counselor. Dobson. 503 00:17:59,338 --> 00:18:00,380 Yes, 504 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:01,840 counselor. 505 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,840 List. Yes, counselor. 506 00:18:04,376 --> 00:18:05,778 Man. Yes. And counselor. Tyler. 507 00:18:05,778 --> 00:18:07,246 Yes. Thank you. The consent 508 00:18:07,246 --> 00:18:07,613 calendar is approved. 509 00:18:07,613 --> 00:18:09,613 Thank you, 510 00:18:10,115 --> 00:18:11,183 MISS Davis. Moving on to boards, 511 00:18:11,183 --> 00:18:12,285 commissions and committee 512 00:18:12,285 --> 00:18:14,820 reports. We have none this 513 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:16,255 evening. So next up, public 514 00:18:16,255 --> 00:18:17,690 hearings. Anyone with a 515 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:18,824 pecuniary interest on an item 516 00:18:18,824 --> 00:18:19,858 under public hearings and 517 00:18:19,858 --> 00:18:21,460 wishing to address the 518 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:23,429 governing body shall register 519 00:18:23,429 --> 00:18:24,864 with the City clerk. Each 520 00:18:24,864 --> 00:18:27,320 comment is limited, will be 521 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,501 limited to three minutes. This 522 00:18:28,501 --> 00:18:29,535 hearing will be handled in 523 00:18:29,535 --> 00:18:31,704 accordance with the Rules of 524 00:18:31,704 --> 00:18:33,704 Procedure. Section 3.4 and 525 00:18:33,873 --> 00:18:36,273 strict decorum will be 526 00:18:36,843 --> 00:18:38,911 maintained first. So the first 527 00:18:38,911 --> 00:18:41,911 item up De 23, which was 528 00:18:42,882 --> 00:18:45,282 postponed from JUNE 25th, 2026. 529 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:47,920 The the. The JUNE 25th meeting 530 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,210 is a site plan approval for 531 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:50,156 Maverik gas station on the 532 00:18:50,156 --> 00:18:52,556 property, legally described as 533 00:18:54,270 --> 00:18:56,270 unit 17, block 131, lots 36 534 00:18:56,195 --> 00:18:58,970 through 40. Director Rincon. 535 00:18:58,970 --> 00:18:59,632 Good evening. Good evening, MR. 536 00:18:59,632 --> 00:19:01,234 Mayor and other members of the 537 00:19:01,234 --> 00:19:03,634 governing body. Director of 538 00:19:03,770 --> 00:19:06,170 Development Services. So item 539 00:19:08,508 --> 00:19:11,678 number eight is d 23, which as 540 00:19:11,678 --> 00:19:12,779 mayor just mentioned, was is a 541 00:19:12,779 --> 00:19:13,979 continuation of the public 542 00:19:13,979 --> 00:19:16,783 hearing that was duly noticed 543 00:19:16,783 --> 00:19:18,885 and started on the JUNE 25th, 544 00:19:18,885 --> 00:19:21,870 2026 meeting. And this is a 545 00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:24,290 request for approval of a site 546 00:19:24,290 --> 00:19:26,426 plan for unit 17, block 31, 547 00:19:26,426 --> 00:19:28,826 lots 36 through 40 for a 548 00:19:30,764 --> 00:19:32,165 Maverick gas station. And so 549 00:19:32,165 --> 00:19:35,165 this site plan would encompass 550 00:19:35,435 --> 00:19:37,370 five lots and is would be 551 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:39,740 located on the northwest corner 552 00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:41,575 of New Mexico. 528 and Obregon 553 00:19:41,575 --> 00:19:44,575 with access points off of 554 00:19:45,912 --> 00:19:49,482 Monterey. And so I'm going to 555 00:19:49,482 --> 00:19:53,820 briefly have up on the screen 556 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,187 the the new site plan. So as I 557 00:19:54,187 --> 00:19:55,222 mentioned at the start of this 558 00:19:55,222 --> 00:19:57,230 presentation, this item was 559 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,825 noticed and started at a public 560 00:19:58,825 --> 00:20:01,280 hearing on JUNE 25th. The 561 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,129 governing body at that meeting 562 00:20:02,129 --> 00:20:04,264 requested that the applicant 563 00:20:04,264 --> 00:20:05,932 reach out to the New Mexico dot 564 00:20:05,932 --> 00:20:07,133 or Department of Transportation 565 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:08,568 and to see about the 566 00:20:08,568 --> 00:20:11,438 feasibility of an access point 567 00:20:11,438 --> 00:20:13,573 off of New Mexico Highway 528. 568 00:20:13,573 --> 00:20:17,173 The updated site plan with a 569 00:20:17,177 --> 00:20:19,379 write in from nm 528 is the 570 00:20:19,379 --> 00:20:20,848 result of that request. And so. 571 00:20:20,848 --> 00:20:22,749 And I'll get back to the site 572 00:20:22,749 --> 00:20:23,784 plan a little bit further in my 573 00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,485 presentation as well. But I 574 00:20:25,485 --> 00:20:27,621 just wanted to highlight that, 575 00:20:27,621 --> 00:20:31,221 that the the applicant did come 576 00:20:32,693 --> 00:20:34,862 back with some updates. So the 577 00:20:34,862 --> 00:20:37,131 following that I have is my 578 00:20:37,131 --> 00:20:38,932 presentation from the meeting 579 00:20:38,932 --> 00:20:40,300 on the 25th. I'm going to go 580 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:42,537 through it really quickly. I 581 00:20:42,537 --> 00:20:45,500 had 26 slides, just as a kind 582 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:46,707 of just so that, you know, I'm 583 00:20:46,707 --> 00:20:48,542 going to go through them really 584 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:49,610 fast though, but I have 585 00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:50,711 everything. So if there's any 586 00:20:50,711 --> 00:20:52,547 follow up questions, we can 587 00:20:52,547 --> 00:20:53,681 always come back to any of 588 00:20:53,681 --> 00:20:55,349 these slides and, and go into 589 00:20:55,349 --> 00:20:57,885 further detail as we're going. 590 00:20:57,885 --> 00:20:59,753 So the zoning for this is 591 00:20:59,753 --> 00:21:02,153 covered under ordinance number 592 00:21:02,590 --> 00:21:04,258 34, enactment number 0734. And 593 00:21:04,258 --> 00:21:06,560 so it does talk about needing a 594 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,663 site plan approved and reviewed 595 00:21:08,663 --> 00:21:10,297 by the governing body. It talks 596 00:21:10,297 --> 00:21:11,933 about what uses are permitted 597 00:21:11,933 --> 00:21:14,933 on the property, which points 598 00:21:15,202 --> 00:21:16,971 back to our c one uses our c 599 00:21:16,971 --> 00:21:18,373 one uses do have as a 600 00:21:18,373 --> 00:21:20,208 permissive use a gas station. 601 00:21:20,208 --> 00:21:22,744 So this is a use that would be 602 00:21:22,744 --> 00:21:25,579 allowed on the property. And so 603 00:21:25,579 --> 00:21:28,579 when we are talking about 604 00:21:29,617 --> 00:21:31,719 retail uses see that that was 605 00:21:31,719 --> 00:21:35,319 just a couple extra slides on 606 00:21:35,623 --> 00:21:38,623 retail uses. Liquor license is 607 00:21:38,659 --> 00:21:40,362 a separate process. So if this 608 00:21:40,362 --> 00:21:42,163 gas station in the future would 609 00:21:42,163 --> 00:21:44,665 decide to go forward with that, 610 00:21:44,665 --> 00:21:46,100 there would be additional 611 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,903 regulations and public hearings 612 00:21:47,903 --> 00:21:49,704 that would need to be heard. 613 00:21:49,704 --> 00:21:53,304 There was a site plan approved 614 00:21:53,708 --> 00:21:55,843 back in 2007 that did show 615 00:21:55,843 --> 00:21:57,979 access points off of one access 616 00:21:57,979 --> 00:21:59,481 point off of Obregon. Other 617 00:21:59,481 --> 00:22:01,283 access points off of Monterey, 618 00:22:01,283 --> 00:22:04,852 and then an access point also 619 00:22:04,852 --> 00:22:07,489 off of New Mexico. 528 so again, 620 00:22:07,489 --> 00:22:10,359 from that original hearing date 621 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,460 on the 25th, the applicant went 622 00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:14,363 back to dot to try to work 623 00:22:14,363 --> 00:22:17,363 forward or work towards getting 624 00:22:18,534 --> 00:22:20,350 an access point from nm 528 625 00:22:20,350 --> 00:22:23,350 here's another part of that 626 00:22:24,639 --> 00:22:27,390 site plan from 2007. So 627 00:22:27,509 --> 00:22:29,509 originally notifications went 628 00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:36,415 out at per chapter 150.03. 629 00:22:37,285 --> 00:22:39,755 When we postpone an item, we 630 00:22:39,755 --> 00:22:41,556 postpone to a date certain. So 631 00:22:41,556 --> 00:22:44,459 everybody that knew of and was 632 00:22:44,459 --> 00:22:45,660 noticed of the meeting in JUNE, 633 00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:47,429 if they were to look at the 634 00:22:47,429 --> 00:22:48,530 meeting minutes for that JUNE 635 00:22:48,530 --> 00:22:49,832 meeting would know that the 636 00:22:49,832 --> 00:22:51,300 item was postponed to tonight's 637 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,401 meeting. So we don't really 638 00:22:53,401 --> 00:22:56,572 notice because we postpone to a 639 00:22:56,572 --> 00:22:58,140 date certain. And so these were 640 00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:59,774 the original notifications that 641 00:22:59,774 --> 00:23:03,145 went out. These were all part 642 00:23:03,145 --> 00:23:05,545 of the original presentation. 643 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,584 And then what I have here is a 644 00:23:08,584 --> 00:23:10,786 screen shot of all of the items 645 00:23:10,786 --> 00:23:14,323 that we look at for site plans 646 00:23:14,323 --> 00:23:17,226 for special use zones. And then 647 00:23:17,226 --> 00:23:18,794 for proposed site plans, just 648 00:23:18,794 --> 00:23:20,429 kind of going through things 649 00:23:20,429 --> 00:23:22,998 that we look at. So we look at 650 00:23:22,998 --> 00:23:25,500 is there a scale and a north 651 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,270 arrow? Are the lot boundaries 652 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:29,380 listed out? Where are the 653 00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:32,380 existing right of ways and 654 00:23:33,409 --> 00:23:35,913 easements? Then we go over is 655 00:23:35,913 --> 00:23:36,979 there what is the existing 656 00:23:36,979 --> 00:23:39,979 utilities? What are the plans 657 00:23:40,983 --> 00:23:43,983 for utilities in the area? 658 00:23:44,954 --> 00:23:46,954 Parking setbacks again, 659 00:23:47,423 --> 00:23:49,625 circulation. And so the 660 00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:50,793 circulation changes with the 661 00:23:50,793 --> 00:23:53,195 updated plan because there will 662 00:23:53,195 --> 00:23:55,365 now be an additional access 663 00:23:55,365 --> 00:23:56,766 point. So on this specific 664 00:23:56,766 --> 00:23:58,935 image that we're looking at, 665 00:23:58,935 --> 00:24:01,804 that access would connect to 666 00:24:01,804 --> 00:24:03,339 that bottom right hand, like 667 00:24:03,339 --> 00:24:06,109 football shape that I have 668 00:24:06,109 --> 00:24:07,577 there. A couple other things 669 00:24:07,577 --> 00:24:11,177 that we look at would include 670 00:24:12,982 --> 00:24:14,982 landscape buffers, elevations. 671 00:24:21,724 --> 00:24:24,724 Building heights. We look at 672 00:24:24,927 --> 00:24:26,396 the preliminary drainage. We 673 00:24:26,396 --> 00:24:29,396 look at the characteristics of 674 00:24:30,633 --> 00:24:32,202 the surrounding properties. 675 00:24:32,202 --> 00:24:35,802 Again just a quick one from 676 00:24:41,778 --> 00:24:43,947 site plan from 2007. Okay. And. 677 00:24:43,947 --> 00:24:45,449 So I breezed through that. But 678 00:24:45,449 --> 00:24:47,500 again, we can get we can go 679 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,510 back to any of those that 680 00:24:48,510 --> 00:24:49,953 there's any questions, but I 681 00:24:49,953 --> 00:24:51,550 just don't want to spend too 682 00:24:51,550 --> 00:24:52,689 much time on something I've 683 00:24:52,689 --> 00:24:54,391 already presented before. But 684 00:24:54,391 --> 00:24:56,260 again, I'm bringing back the 685 00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:58,295 new updated site plan that is 686 00:24:58,295 --> 00:25:00,163 showing that right in off of 687 00:25:00,163 --> 00:25:03,163 New Mexico. 528 so right now, 688 00:25:03,466 --> 00:25:05,602 there wouldn't be a right out 689 00:25:05,602 --> 00:25:09,202 back onto. 528 we can only go 690 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,711 from 528 to the site itself. 691 00:25:14,711 --> 00:25:16,747 And so then I do have actually 692 00:25:16,747 --> 00:25:18,549 let me go back really quick. So 693 00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:20,417 the applicant did hold a 694 00:25:20,417 --> 00:25:22,353 community meeting last week and 695 00:25:22,353 --> 00:25:23,954 a couple of things that are in 696 00:25:23,954 --> 00:25:26,900 your agenda briefing memorandum 697 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:27,558 that were added today in public 698 00:25:27,558 --> 00:25:29,760 comment, along with public 699 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,128 comments from residents, were 700 00:25:31,128 --> 00:25:33,297 also some meeting notes. So 701 00:25:33,297 --> 00:25:34,732 some of the questions that they 702 00:25:34,732 --> 00:25:35,799 answered. So some of the 703 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:37,601 questions themselves. And then 704 00:25:37,601 --> 00:25:38,702 the responses from the 705 00:25:38,702 --> 00:25:40,504 applicants. So those are added 706 00:25:40,504 --> 00:25:41,906 in. But the applicant can go 707 00:25:41,906 --> 00:25:43,374 into further detail. If there's 708 00:25:43,374 --> 00:25:45,543 questions about that public 709 00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:46,977 meeting. And with that I will 710 00:25:46,977 --> 00:25:49,113 stand for any questions. So 711 00:25:49,113 --> 00:25:50,281 staff did review. We do 712 00:25:50,281 --> 00:25:52,382 recommend approval and I have 713 00:25:52,382 --> 00:25:55,382 the conditions and findings of 714 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,155 fact for d 23 up on the screen. 715 00:25:58,155 --> 00:25:59,290 There's a couple of them. 716 00:25:59,290 --> 00:26:02,159 They're also included in your 717 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:04,262 agenda briefing memorandum. And 718 00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:06,731 I will stand for any questions. 719 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,266 Thank you. Director Cohen can I 720 00:26:09,266 --> 00:26:10,367 get a motion. 721 00:26:10,367 --> 00:26:12,367 Motion motion to 722 00:26:12,503 --> 00:26:13,237 approve d 23. 723 00:26:13,237 --> 00:26:15,237 Second, have a 724 00:26:15,406 --> 00:26:17,174 motion. And a second is the 725 00:26:17,174 --> 00:26:20,174 applicant here. And does the 726 00:26:25,149 --> 00:26:25,817 applicant wish to speak. 727 00:26:25,817 --> 00:26:27,652 Hello. 728 00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:29,453 Thank you for volunteering your 729 00:26:29,453 --> 00:26:31,489 time to hear our little case 730 00:26:31,489 --> 00:26:33,580 for our future gas station. And 731 00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:34,459 my name is Richard Pigott with 732 00:26:34,459 --> 00:26:35,826 Maverick. We're located at 185 733 00:26:35,826 --> 00:26:37,695 South State Street, Salt Lake 734 00:26:37,695 --> 00:26:39,530 City, Utah. I also have with me 735 00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:40,665 Brian Herron with Galloway 736 00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:42,330 Engineering. They were the ones 737 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:43,501 that did our traffic study 738 00:26:43,501 --> 00:26:44,769 based on our neighborhood 739 00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:46,704 meeting. The biggest concerns, 740 00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:48,873 of course, is traffic accesses 741 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:50,141 and things of that nature. So 742 00:26:50,141 --> 00:26:51,410 Brian with me as well, so that 743 00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:52,844 he could answer questions 744 00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:54,844 directly concerning traffic 745 00:26:54,912 --> 00:26:56,140 concerns. He's a little bit 746 00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:57,916 more educated in that field 747 00:26:57,916 --> 00:26:59,117 than I am, so I'm glad I 748 00:26:59,117 --> 00:27:00,919 brought him with me. So open to 749 00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:01,986 any questions you have about 750 00:27:01,986 --> 00:27:03,540 the neighborhood meeting. I can 751 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:04,890 address those. If it's a 752 00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:05,190 traffic concern, I'll have 753 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:07,225 Brian answer those questions 754 00:27:07,225 --> 00:27:09,225 for me. 755 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,895 Okay. Hang tight. We 756 00:27:10,895 --> 00:27:13,365 MAY ask you for to come back up 757 00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:16,268 for more questions. All right. 758 00:27:16,268 --> 00:27:19,137 I have three people signed up 759 00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:20,638 to speak. So as I said prior to 760 00:27:20,638 --> 00:27:22,674 this, we will you'll have three 761 00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:25,674 minutes to speak. First up, 762 00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:36,721 Kristine Eisenberg. 763 00:27:36,721 --> 00:27:38,556 Good 764 00:27:38,556 --> 00:27:39,625 afternoon. My name is Christine 765 00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:41,460 Eisenberg. I'm part of the 766 00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:43,329 neighborhood association that 767 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,764 is located in district six. 768 00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:47,599 That's a Chamisa Estates 769 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,568 Neighborhood association. I 770 00:27:49,568 --> 00:27:51,870 don't know if you can see me 771 00:27:51,870 --> 00:27:54,390 over this. This podium. I'm 772 00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:55,740 kind of small, but I have a big 773 00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:57,275 voice. And one of the things 774 00:27:57,275 --> 00:27:58,743 that I noticed is that the 775 00:27:58,743 --> 00:28:00,450 zoning and development code 776 00:28:00,450 --> 00:28:03,450 requires that all persons that 777 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,817 are affected by the build be 778 00:28:04,817 --> 00:28:06,618 notified. And while the six 779 00:28:06,618 --> 00:28:08,887 homes directly in front of the 780 00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:10,556 build have been notified, all 781 00:28:10,556 --> 00:28:12,758 of the remaining homes on 782 00:28:12,758 --> 00:28:13,859 Monterey were not. And the 783 00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:16,262 reason that they will be 784 00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:18,897 affected is. If you noticed on 785 00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:20,333 the site plan, the developer 786 00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:23,169 kept telling us there is no way 787 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:25,400 for people to turn right out of 788 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Monterey, but in fact, they can 789 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,642 turn right. So 850 cars are 790 00:28:29,642 --> 00:28:31,477 projected to go through that 791 00:28:31,477 --> 00:28:32,578 gas station and out through 792 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:34,713 Monterey, and they have a 793 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,882 choice of turning left or right. 794 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,520 The reason it is dangerous to 795 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,921 turn right is this neighborhood 796 00:28:41,921 --> 00:28:44,900 is very rural. We use it to 797 00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:45,625 walk on any evening, any 798 00:28:45,625 --> 00:28:47,660 morning. If you take the time 799 00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:49,462 to go out there, you'll see 800 00:28:49,462 --> 00:28:50,897 neighbors walking their dogs, 801 00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:52,331 children walking to school, 802 00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:54,731 children walking back from 803 00:28:56,669 --> 00:28:58,971 school. You will see people 804 00:28:58,971 --> 00:29:00,640 riding bikes, little dirt bikes, 805 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,610 all kinds of different activity 806 00:29:03,610 --> 00:29:06,746 on the road and adding 850 cars 807 00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:09,282 to that will be a detriment to 808 00:29:09,282 --> 00:29:10,383 everybody's safety. 809 00:29:10,383 --> 00:29:12,383 Additionally, the developer 810 00:29:12,552 --> 00:29:13,920 told us that during the traffic 811 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,455 study, there were four cars 812 00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,258 that they noted during a so 813 00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:20,930 many hour period, so that 814 00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:21,828 didn't sound true to us because 815 00:29:21,828 --> 00:29:24,630 we live there and we see the 816 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:25,965 cars that come in and out. I've 817 00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:27,634 given you a traffic study that 818 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:29,769 we did ourselves. I sat out 819 00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:31,271 there and tallied cars two 820 00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:33,390 different days. One day with 821 00:29:33,390 --> 00:29:34,474 school in session, one day 822 00:29:34,474 --> 00:29:36,275 without school in session. On 823 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:39,875 the day that school was in 824 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,449 session, we had 586 cars go 825 00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:44,217 down. Obregon. And then on the 826 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:46,419 day that school wasn't in 827 00:29:46,419 --> 00:29:49,419 session, we had 219 cars go 828 00:29:49,956 --> 00:29:52,192 down. Obregon from 7:00 to 930 829 00:29:52,192 --> 00:29:54,294 each day. In order to prove 830 00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:56,300 that I really was out there, I 831 00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,932 have the time stamped pictures 832 00:29:58,932 --> 00:30:00,868 about every 15 or 20 minutes so 833 00:30:00,868 --> 00:30:02,360 that you can see I really was 834 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,837 out there really with my little 835 00:30:03,837 --> 00:30:04,938 tally marks, and there's even a 836 00:30:04,938 --> 00:30:06,730 cute little picture of me 837 00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:07,841 sitting out there on the road. 838 00:30:07,841 --> 00:30:09,410 By the way, it's really 839 00:30:09,410 --> 00:30:11,211 dangerous out there, I noticed 840 00:30:11,211 --> 00:30:12,880 six different cars come and do 841 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,848 u-turns on Obregon because they 842 00:30:14,848 --> 00:30:18,180 were going the wrong way. On 843 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,554 528, I saw people trying to 844 00:30:20,554 --> 00:30:22,622 pass the line, going out of 845 00:30:22,622 --> 00:30:24,524 Obregon. Let's say there's 20 846 00:30:24,524 --> 00:30:25,793 cars lined up. The 20th car 847 00:30:25,793 --> 00:30:28,950 decides, I'm not going to wait 848 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:29,563 in line. They cut going, 849 00:30:29,563 --> 00:30:31,365 heading to the traffic lane 850 00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:32,466 that's coming in the opposite 851 00:30:32,466 --> 00:30:33,600 direction. You guys need to do 852 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,000 something about that because 853 00:30:37,471 --> 00:30:41,710 that's not safe anyway. Also, I 854 00:30:42,843 --> 00:30:44,211 wanted to note that. I 855 00:30:44,211 --> 00:30:46,848 requested an Ipra to look at 856 00:30:46,848 --> 00:30:49,848 the amount of accidents between 857 00:30:50,818 --> 00:30:52,586 Kim and 528, and Obregon and 858 00:30:52,586 --> 00:30:54,421 528, and there were 20 859 00:30:54,421 --> 00:30:56,591 accidents from JANUARY 1st to 860 00:30:56,591 --> 00:30:57,758 date. Some of them included 861 00:30:57,758 --> 00:30:59,460 several cars. Most of them were 862 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:01,929 two car accidents. Thank you 863 00:31:01,929 --> 00:31:04,464 for listening. We want a safe 864 00:31:04,464 --> 00:31:06,267 neighborhood. We value our 865 00:31:06,267 --> 00:31:07,702 neighbors and our time that we 866 00:31:07,702 --> 00:31:09,370 spend outside recreating. And 867 00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:10,538 that's why we bought homes in 868 00:31:10,538 --> 00:31:12,406 that area. And we hope you 869 00:31:12,406 --> 00:31:14,208 consider that. Also, please 870 00:31:14,208 --> 00:31:16,611 consider that the developer was 871 00:31:16,611 --> 00:31:19,130 less than honest with us when 872 00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:20,882 we met with him. In our ability 873 00:31:20,882 --> 00:31:21,415 to try and fix all of this. 874 00:31:21,415 --> 00:31:22,816 Thank you. 875 00:31:22,816 --> 00:31:24,816 Next up, Thomas 876 00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:40,902 Krapyak. Good evening mayor. 877 00:31:40,902 --> 00:31:41,569 City Council members. 878 00:31:41,569 --> 00:31:41,936 City 879 00:31:41,936 --> 00:31:43,371 manager. 880 00:31:43,371 --> 00:31:44,472 My name is Thomas and 881 00:31:44,472 --> 00:31:45,941 I'm a retired lieutenant with 882 00:31:45,941 --> 00:31:47,342 the Albuquerque Fire Department. 883 00:31:47,342 --> 00:31:49,477 And I am very concerned about 884 00:31:49,477 --> 00:31:51,279 safety in this area. My main 885 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,981 concern is resident safety and 886 00:31:52,981 --> 00:31:54,181 traffic safety. I'm asking you 887 00:31:54,181 --> 00:31:55,750 to deny this maverick maverick 888 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:58,119 site plan, not simply place 889 00:31:58,119 --> 00:31:59,554 more conditions on it. Before 890 00:31:59,554 --> 00:32:00,655 Maverick was proposed, Rio 891 00:32:00,655 --> 00:32:01,756 Rancho police had already 892 00:32:01,756 --> 00:32:04,156 identified safety concerns on 893 00:32:04,626 --> 00:32:06,610 New Mexico. 528 and Obregon in 894 00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:08,610 2024. The Police traffic 895 00:32:08,196 --> 00:32:09,297 division asked Nmdot to 896 00:32:09,297 --> 00:32:10,198 consider northbound and 897 00:32:10,198 --> 00:32:12,670 southbound turning lanes at 898 00:32:12,670 --> 00:32:14,670 this intersection, specifically 899 00:32:14,703 --> 00:32:16,104 to avoid crashes. Now, Maverick 900 00:32:16,104 --> 00:32:17,306 proposes a high traffic fuel 901 00:32:17,306 --> 00:32:20,306 station and a convenience store 902 00:32:20,442 --> 00:32:21,543 at that same intersection. New 903 00:32:21,543 --> 00:32:22,277 Mexico Department of 904 00:32:22,277 --> 00:32:24,780 Transportation has stated that 905 00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:26,882 it will not grant access to New 906 00:32:26,882 --> 00:32:29,282 Mexico. 528 at this location, 907 00:32:30,185 --> 00:32:31,252 so what does that traffic go? 908 00:32:31,252 --> 00:32:32,687 Maverick's own site drawings 909 00:32:32,687 --> 00:32:34,490 make that answer easy. The 910 00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:35,757 project's internal circulation 911 00:32:35,757 --> 00:32:38,157 connects directly to Monterey 912 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:39,861 Road, a residential street, 913 00:32:39,861 --> 00:32:41,363 while also relying on Obregon 914 00:32:41,363 --> 00:32:42,764 for access. Monterey and 915 00:32:42,764 --> 00:32:43,531 Obregon already carry 916 00:32:43,531 --> 00:32:44,867 concentrated morning and 917 00:32:44,867 --> 00:32:46,402 afternoon traffic associated 918 00:32:46,402 --> 00:32:47,903 with Enchanted Hills Elementary 919 00:32:47,903 --> 00:32:49,604 School. Children also walk 920 00:32:49,604 --> 00:32:51,773 these streets to and from 921 00:32:51,773 --> 00:32:54,773 school, some with parents, some 922 00:32:55,344 --> 00:32:57,146 independently. This proposal 923 00:32:57,146 --> 00:32:58,647 will add customer vehicles, 924 00:32:58,647 --> 00:32:59,681 turning movements, delivery, 925 00:32:59,681 --> 00:33:00,782 traffic and commercial 926 00:33:00,782 --> 00:33:02,951 circulation through these same 927 00:33:02,951 --> 00:33:04,200 streets. Developers also 928 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,488 acknowledged weaving concerns. 929 00:33:05,488 --> 00:33:07,623 Because Obregon Access is so 930 00:33:07,623 --> 00:33:09,240 close to New Mexico. 528 while 931 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,424 proposing no dedicated right 932 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,628 turn lane to this site, there 933 00:33:12,628 --> 00:33:13,929 is also an environmental 934 00:33:13,929 --> 00:33:15,498 concern already for record with 935 00:33:15,498 --> 00:33:16,599 the city clerk, an 936 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:17,700 environmental engineer has 937 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:18,734 submitted and written concerns 938 00:33:18,734 --> 00:33:20,936 about drainage toward the 939 00:33:20,936 --> 00:33:22,739 adjacent Arroyo de las Lomitas 940 00:33:22,739 --> 00:33:25,139 Negras and nearby residential 941 00:33:25,608 --> 00:33:26,609 ground walls that recommends 942 00:33:26,609 --> 00:33:27,810 evaluating the local water 943 00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:29,211 table before assuming those 944 00:33:29,211 --> 00:33:31,130 drinking water sources are 945 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:32,815 protected. There is also 946 00:33:32,815 --> 00:33:33,916 environmental concern. Why 947 00:33:33,916 --> 00:33:35,117 should these questions be 948 00:33:35,117 --> 00:33:36,752 answered after approval instead 949 00:33:36,752 --> 00:33:37,820 of before it? When a project 950 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:39,621 depends on an already 951 00:33:39,621 --> 00:33:41,621 concerning intersection cannot 952 00:33:41,824 --> 00:33:43,593 access New Mexico 528 directly 953 00:33:43,593 --> 00:33:45,428 shifts commercial traffic onto 954 00:33:45,428 --> 00:33:46,896 streets used by school children 955 00:33:46,896 --> 00:33:48,698 and creates acknowledged 956 00:33:48,698 --> 00:33:49,765 weaving concerns and leaves 957 00:33:49,765 --> 00:33:50,833 important drainage and 958 00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:52,668 groundwater questions 959 00:33:52,668 --> 00:33:54,700 unanswered. Approval is not the 960 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:55,838 cause. The cautious decision 961 00:33:55,838 --> 00:33:56,939 here. Denial is, and we'd 962 00:33:56,939 --> 00:33:58,541 really appreciate if the 963 00:33:58,541 --> 00:33:59,809 council members would listen to 964 00:33:59,809 --> 00:34:01,310 their residents of this 965 00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:01,611 community. Thank you. 966 00:34:01,611 --> 00:34:03,611 Thank you, 967 00:34:04,814 --> 00:34:07,814 MR. Kubiak. Next up, Kim 968 00:34:18,528 --> 00:34:19,262 Gonzalez. 969 00:34:19,262 --> 00:34:19,629 Good evening. 970 00:34:19,629 --> 00:34:21,629 Mayor 971 00:34:21,731 --> 00:34:23,934 and council members. My name is 972 00:34:23,934 --> 00:34:26,436 Kim Gonzalez. I reside at 1201 973 00:34:26,436 --> 00:34:27,503 Monterey Road, a home that is 974 00:34:27,503 --> 00:34:29,305 directly across from the 975 00:34:29,305 --> 00:34:31,108 proposed Maverick Gas Station. 976 00:34:31,108 --> 00:34:32,542 I am here tonight to 977 00:34:32,542 --> 00:34:34,440 respectfully ask you to deny 978 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,845 this site approval, because I 979 00:34:35,845 --> 00:34:37,580 believe its location creates 980 00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:39,480 serious traffic and safety 981 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,516 concerns for our neighborhood. 982 00:34:40,516 --> 00:34:41,585 The gas station is being 983 00:34:41,585 --> 00:34:43,720 proposed at the major 984 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:45,889 intersection of 528 and Obregon, 985 00:34:45,889 --> 00:34:46,956 which is already a busy road 986 00:34:46,956 --> 00:34:49,356 because of the elementary 987 00:34:49,492 --> 00:34:50,994 school that is half mile away. 988 00:34:50,994 --> 00:34:52,763 However, our concern is that 989 00:34:52,763 --> 00:34:55,232 the traffic will actually be 990 00:34:55,232 --> 00:34:57,670 going onto Monterey, a 991 00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:58,868 residential road. That 992 00:34:58,868 --> 00:35:00,270 distinction is extremely 993 00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:02,105 important because the developer 994 00:35:02,105 --> 00:35:03,874 is proposing to put a high 995 00:35:03,874 --> 00:35:05,675 volume commercial traffic 996 00:35:05,675 --> 00:35:07,510 generator next to that 997 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:08,945 residential road, and he has 998 00:35:08,945 --> 00:35:11,945 indicated that it will likely 999 00:35:12,516 --> 00:35:14,752 send over 850 vehicles onto it 1000 00:35:14,752 --> 00:35:16,486 every day. I don't believe we 1001 00:35:16,486 --> 00:35:17,954 should dismiss that simply 1002 00:35:17,954 --> 00:35:20,123 because the gas station is 1003 00:35:20,123 --> 00:35:21,559 located at a major intersection. 1004 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:22,859 A tremendous amount of traffic 1005 00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:25,462 will come into our neighborhood 1006 00:35:25,462 --> 00:35:27,297 on Monterey, where people 1007 00:35:27,297 --> 00:35:28,865 regularly walk, exercise, and 1008 00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:30,868 enjoy our neighborhood because 1009 00:35:30,868 --> 00:35:32,670 it is not a high traffic 1010 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:34,639 roadway. That is why the 1011 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:36,730 entrance exit location matters 1012 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:38,776 just as much as the location of 1013 00:35:38,776 --> 00:35:39,877 the gas station itself. I 1014 00:35:39,877 --> 00:35:41,679 respectfully ask the council to 1015 00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:42,946 look at this from the 1016 00:35:42,946 --> 00:35:44,548 perspective of the residents 1017 00:35:44,548 --> 00:35:47,417 who actually live on Monterey 1018 00:35:47,417 --> 00:35:49,987 Road. Personally, as I said, 1019 00:35:49,987 --> 00:35:53,190 our house is at the corner of 1020 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:54,792 Monterey and Obregon with 850 1021 00:35:54,792 --> 00:35:57,192 vehicles entering and exiting 1022 00:35:57,227 --> 00:35:59,330 the gas station each day, we 1023 00:35:59,330 --> 00:36:01,165 will need to find gaps in 1024 00:36:01,165 --> 00:36:04,100 traffic to safely enter or 1025 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,603 leave our driveway. The the 1026 00:36:05,603 --> 00:36:07,939 traffic stop sign at the corner 1027 00:36:07,939 --> 00:36:09,407 will likely create a backup of 1028 00:36:09,407 --> 00:36:11,542 vehicles waiting to get onto 1029 00:36:11,542 --> 00:36:13,100 Obregon. Further blocking our 1030 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,913 driveway and making access to 1031 00:36:15,913 --> 00:36:17,715 our home difficult and possibly 1032 00:36:17,715 --> 00:36:19,851 dangerous. This is not just 1033 00:36:19,851 --> 00:36:22,251 about traffic, it directly 1034 00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:25,420 affects our ability to safely 1035 00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:28,860 get in and out of our own home. 1036 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:30,295 So I ask you, if this was your 1037 00:36:30,295 --> 00:36:32,695 family's home, would you 1038 00:36:33,131 --> 00:36:35,366 consider this traffic increase 1039 00:36:35,366 --> 00:36:37,302 acceptable? I believe the 1040 00:36:37,302 --> 00:36:38,570 answer would be no. Thank you 1041 00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:39,671 for your time. 1042 00:36:39,671 --> 00:36:41,671 Thank you, MISS 1043 00:36:43,641 --> 00:36:45,760 Gonzalez. MISS Davis, anyone 1044 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:45,476 else signed up to speak? 1045 00:36:45,476 --> 00:36:46,878 No, 1046 00:36:46,878 --> 00:36:47,612 sir. There is not. 1047 00:36:47,612 --> 00:36:49,140 All right. 1048 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,549 Then we will close the public 1049 00:36:51,549 --> 00:36:55,149 comment period of this item and 1050 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,288 move on to council comment, 1051 00:36:57,288 --> 00:36:59,288 questions, comments. Concerns. 1052 00:37:00,592 --> 00:37:00,926 MR. Mayor. Councilor. List. 1053 00:37:00,926 --> 00:37:02,560 MR. 1054 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,929 Mayor. Okay, let me begin by 1055 00:37:03,929 --> 00:37:06,331 first saying thank you so much 1056 00:37:06,331 --> 00:37:08,132 to Maverick for following up 1057 00:37:08,132 --> 00:37:09,634 and hearing our request and 1058 00:37:09,634 --> 00:37:11,200 meeting with the community. I 1059 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,538 think that was an important 1060 00:37:13,538 --> 00:37:16,400 step. I also want to say a 1061 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,810 thank you to Director Rincon 1062 00:37:17,810 --> 00:37:19,611 and her team for continuing to 1063 00:37:19,611 --> 00:37:23,211 follow through with this and to 1064 00:37:23,615 --> 00:37:25,160 to bring it back to today. I'm 1065 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,418 not entirely sure where to 1066 00:37:26,418 --> 00:37:28,253 start, other than I want 1067 00:37:28,253 --> 00:37:29,321 everyone who sent in emails and 1068 00:37:29,321 --> 00:37:31,123 comments. We hear you. We 1069 00:37:31,123 --> 00:37:34,426 appreciate you, I hear you, I 1070 00:37:34,426 --> 00:37:36,227 appreciate you, I think that we 1071 00:37:36,227 --> 00:37:39,431 need to look at a couple of 1072 00:37:39,431 --> 00:37:40,866 things, and I'm not sure if MR. 1073 00:37:40,866 --> 00:37:43,866 Pickard can answer my question 1074 00:37:48,107 --> 00:37:49,175 or not. 1075 00:37:49,175 --> 00:37:50,943 I'll do my best. 1076 00:37:50,943 --> 00:37:52,943 Okay. 1077 00:37:53,111 --> 00:37:54,279 And please note, I get that you 1078 00:37:54,279 --> 00:37:56,348 represent an entity, but I. But 1079 00:37:56,348 --> 00:37:57,583 I do have some questions. Again, 1080 00:37:57,583 --> 00:37:58,984 thank you for for meeting with 1081 00:37:58,984 --> 00:38:00,719 the community that wasn't asked. 1082 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,121 And I do believe that some of 1083 00:38:02,121 --> 00:38:03,555 the things that were initially 1084 00:38:03,555 --> 00:38:05,323 brought were accommodations 1085 00:38:05,323 --> 00:38:07,192 that Maverick was able to make, 1086 00:38:07,192 --> 00:38:08,693 whether it was lighting or 1087 00:38:08,693 --> 00:38:10,295 walls or the foliage or some of 1088 00:38:10,295 --> 00:38:12,598 the things. So thank you for 1089 00:38:12,598 --> 00:38:14,466 that. I do have a question, 1090 00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,102 though. We met on JUNE 25th. Do 1091 00:38:16,102 --> 00:38:17,200 you know when you guys then 1092 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,380 turned around and reached back 1093 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:20,139 out to the dot? 1094 00:38:20,139 --> 00:38:22,108 I think it was. 1095 00:38:22,108 --> 00:38:25,440 The next day is when we got the 1096 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,846 first rejection from Margaret. 1097 00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:28,213 I could talk to have Brian 1098 00:38:28,213 --> 00:38:29,381 address that a little bit more 1099 00:38:29,381 --> 00:38:31,250 clear. But yeah, we reached out 1100 00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:33,119 like the second. By the time i 1101 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,153 got home, I had an email 1102 00:38:34,153 --> 00:38:36,889 rejection from them. By the 1103 00:38:36,889 --> 00:38:38,570 time I landed. So and then we 1104 00:38:38,570 --> 00:38:39,792 continued to push over the 1105 00:38:39,792 --> 00:38:41,928 course of the last two months, 1106 00:38:41,928 --> 00:38:44,464 I didn't get a blessing for 1107 00:38:44,464 --> 00:38:45,665 that right turn pocket until 1108 00:38:45,665 --> 00:38:47,366 probably about two weeks ago, 1109 00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:48,701 three weeks ago. But again, I 1110 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:49,835 think Brian could answer that 1111 00:38:49,835 --> 00:38:51,704 question a little bit more 1112 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:52,939 clearly. And I think it's in a 1113 00:38:52,939 --> 00:38:54,707 memo that was also presented to 1114 00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:54,907 you as a commissioner as well. 1115 00:38:54,907 --> 00:38:55,975 Right. 1116 00:38:55,975 --> 00:38:57,810 I just have some notes 1117 00:38:57,810 --> 00:38:58,811 here that reflect that the real 1118 00:38:58,811 --> 00:38:59,912 conversations MAY not have 1119 00:38:59,912 --> 00:39:01,881 started until mid AUGUST. So 1120 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:03,716 there was a gap, and I was just 1121 00:39:03,716 --> 00:39:06,119 curious as to why, but you're, 1122 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:07,420 you're you're good. So I, I 1123 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:08,421 have to be honest, I'm really 1124 00:39:08,421 --> 00:39:09,489 frustrated with the Department 1125 00:39:09,489 --> 00:39:11,570 of Transportation in this 1126 00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:12,192 entire situation, because I do 1127 00:39:12,192 --> 00:39:14,728 know that some of their 1128 00:39:14,728 --> 00:39:16,229 feedback were no additional 1129 00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:17,897 turn ins. Then it was you could 1130 00:39:17,897 --> 00:39:19,799 have both a right in or right 1131 00:39:19,799 --> 00:39:21,200 out. Then it was no, you can 1132 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,770 only have the right in. And 1133 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:25,105 part of their argument is that. 1134 00:39:25,105 --> 00:39:28,105 528 in this stretch right now 1135 00:39:28,408 --> 00:39:30,176 is problematic, as in the 1136 00:39:30,176 --> 00:39:32,176 overgrown intersection, the 1137 00:39:32,346 --> 00:39:33,814 zenith intersection and the 1138 00:39:33,814 --> 00:39:35,215 intersection. And so I'm super 1139 00:39:35,215 --> 00:39:36,649 frustrated with the dot for not 1140 00:39:36,649 --> 00:39:37,750 saying, hey, let's take 90 days, 1141 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,586 six months, and let's put a 1142 00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:40,787 time out. And we're going to 1143 00:39:40,787 --> 00:39:42,689 put a focused energy on this 1144 00:39:42,689 --> 00:39:44,591 strip of 528 and we're going to 1145 00:39:44,591 --> 00:39:45,759 do our job for the residents of 1146 00:39:45,759 --> 00:39:46,793 Rio Rancho. So I'm extremely 1147 00:39:46,793 --> 00:39:47,760 disappointed in the Department 1148 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,530 of Transportation because right 1149 00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:50,698 now I think they are the 1150 00:39:50,698 --> 00:39:51,631 stronghold for a lot of these 1151 00:39:51,631 --> 00:39:53,233 complications. However, with 1152 00:39:53,233 --> 00:39:54,901 that said, ultimately the only 1153 00:39:54,901 --> 00:39:56,637 thing that was granted was a 1154 00:39:56,637 --> 00:39:58,605 right in which forces 100% of 1155 00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:00,173 those vehicles out onto 1156 00:40:00,173 --> 00:40:02,609 Monterey, which is in no way, 1157 00:40:02,609 --> 00:40:04,745 shape or form acceptable. This 1158 00:40:04,745 --> 00:40:06,546 is a private road. This does 1159 00:40:06,546 --> 00:40:10,146 feed into a small space. This 1160 00:40:10,183 --> 00:40:12,419 is front doors that this is not 1161 00:40:12,419 --> 00:40:15,419 made for an additional 850 cars 1162 00:40:15,522 --> 00:40:19,122 a day. I am extremely concerned 1163 00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:21,629 about safety. The safety issues 1164 00:40:21,629 --> 00:40:25,999 in this area. If we can look at 1165 00:40:25,999 --> 00:40:28,869 our special use permit section 1166 00:40:28,869 --> 00:40:30,103 154.4 3a3f. It does talk about 1167 00:40:30,103 --> 00:40:31,872 something that is very specific 1168 00:40:31,872 --> 00:40:33,574 for us sitting up here to look 1169 00:40:33,574 --> 00:40:35,142 at, and it's the proposed 1170 00:40:35,142 --> 00:40:36,443 ingress, the egress, parking 1171 00:40:36,443 --> 00:40:37,511 and circulation. And 1172 00:40:37,511 --> 00:40:39,213 unfortunately, I do not feel 1173 00:40:39,213 --> 00:40:40,782 that in any way, shape or form 1174 00:40:40,782 --> 00:40:43,684 this meets the safety needs of 1175 00:40:43,684 --> 00:40:45,419 the neighborhood. I very much 1176 00:40:45,419 --> 00:40:47,121 appreciate the residents that 1177 00:40:47,121 --> 00:40:48,389 took the time to sit out and 1178 00:40:48,389 --> 00:40:50,524 dodge cars and play Frogger to 1179 00:40:50,524 --> 00:40:52,326 to get these data points for us. 1180 00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:54,795 I do want to say, just from 1181 00:40:54,795 --> 00:40:56,563 personal experience, that that 1182 00:40:56,563 --> 00:40:58,432 586 after a long weekend is 1183 00:40:58,432 --> 00:41:00,168 probably a low number. A lot of 1184 00:41:00,168 --> 00:41:01,569 people took extended vacations, 1185 00:41:01,569 --> 00:41:03,804 so that number is probably 1186 00:41:03,804 --> 00:41:04,738 higher than what, what, what 1187 00:41:04,738 --> 00:41:06,574 would have really happened if 1188 00:41:06,574 --> 00:41:07,675 you would have had it on a 1189 00:41:07,675 --> 00:41:09,177 traditional five day week, on 1190 00:41:09,177 --> 00:41:12,177 maybe a Tuesday or Thursday, 1191 00:41:14,548 --> 00:41:15,750 just my $0.02. So I. I don't 1192 00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:17,551 really have a lot more to say 1193 00:41:17,551 --> 00:41:18,753 other than I'm just really 1194 00:41:18,753 --> 00:41:19,754 sorry, but I, I don't think 1195 00:41:19,754 --> 00:41:21,550 this makes the safety 1196 00:41:21,550 --> 00:41:22,723 requirements for our, our 1197 00:41:22,723 --> 00:41:23,991 community. And I, I apologize, 1198 00:41:23,991 --> 00:41:25,126 it has nothing to do with 1199 00:41:25,126 --> 00:41:27,950 Maverick. It has nothing to do 1200 00:41:27,950 --> 00:41:28,963 with it being a gas station. I 1201 00:41:28,963 --> 00:41:32,600 think that the dot did you a 1202 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,600 disservice. And with that, I 1203 00:41:37,271 --> 00:41:39,671 will take a pause. 1204 00:41:40,208 --> 00:41:41,943 No, we are. 1205 00:41:41,943 --> 00:41:43,711 There's strict decorum being 1206 00:41:43,711 --> 00:41:45,413 held here. We are not going to 1207 00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:46,580 clap. We're not going to be. 1208 00:41:46,580 --> 00:41:48,516 There's a reason for that. If 1209 00:41:48,516 --> 00:41:49,650 we get people in this room that 1210 00:41:49,650 --> 00:41:51,420 are opposed and in favor, and 1211 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:52,687 they start booing and clapping, 1212 00:41:52,687 --> 00:41:54,522 we can have a fight in here. 1213 00:41:54,522 --> 00:41:55,690 We're not going to have this. 1214 00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:57,425 We're going to act like adults 1215 00:41:57,425 --> 00:41:58,126 in this room. Thank you, 1216 00:41:58,126 --> 00:41:58,727 Councilor Tyler. 1217 00:41:58,727 --> 00:42:00,727 I would have 1218 00:42:02,197 --> 00:42:05,700 to agree with Councilor List. I, 1219 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:07,870 I think that New Mexico. 528 1220 00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:11,470 and that that section of New 1221 00:42:11,473 --> 00:42:13,873 Mexico. 528 is some concerns 1222 00:42:14,709 --> 00:42:16,144 for public safety as far as 1223 00:42:16,144 --> 00:42:17,779 traffic in right turns, left 1224 00:42:17,779 --> 00:42:18,880 turns, I don't care which way 1225 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,981 you're turning, it's a pain 1226 00:42:19,981 --> 00:42:22,651 down there going to Corrales 1227 00:42:22,651 --> 00:42:26,251 you're going to get hit. I 1228 00:42:26,254 --> 00:42:29,124 think I share the same issues 1229 00:42:29,124 --> 00:42:31,627 as she does with Nmdot. They're 1230 00:42:31,627 --> 00:42:33,950 horrible. And I'll say that 1231 00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:34,496 because it depends on which 1232 00:42:34,496 --> 00:42:36,632 entity you are or where you're 1233 00:42:36,632 --> 00:42:38,467 at, because I can go and put 1234 00:42:38,467 --> 00:42:40,350 five stoplights in a row or six 1235 00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:42,700 stoplights in a row, which are 1236 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:43,872 against nmdot regulations, 1237 00:42:43,872 --> 00:42:45,307 depending on who I am. But I 1238 00:42:45,307 --> 00:42:47,576 can't have one stoplight that 1239 00:42:47,576 --> 00:42:49,377 saves people's lives off of 528 1240 00:42:49,377 --> 00:42:51,447 up by the armory, or 550 up by 1241 00:42:51,447 --> 00:42:53,315 the armory. We can't get a 1242 00:42:53,315 --> 00:42:55,117 stoplight on 528 over where 1243 00:42:55,117 --> 00:42:56,852 it's needed. We can't get write 1244 00:42:56,852 --> 00:42:58,353 ins and write outs to get 1245 00:42:58,353 --> 00:43:00,289 businesses to come in. It's not 1246 00:43:00,289 --> 00:43:01,356 the fact that the city of Rio 1247 00:43:01,356 --> 00:43:02,391 Rancho doesn't want to do 1248 00:43:02,391 --> 00:43:03,426 business, and doesn't want to 1249 00:43:03,426 --> 00:43:05,261 encourage business. It's the 1250 00:43:05,261 --> 00:43:06,261 fact that we don't want to 1251 00:43:06,261 --> 00:43:07,630 endanger the residents, and 1252 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:08,698 Nmdot doesn't get off their 1253 00:43:08,698 --> 00:43:10,499 butts and come down here and 1254 00:43:10,499 --> 00:43:12,668 help us solve problems. And 1255 00:43:12,668 --> 00:43:13,869 maybe in six months that'll 1256 00:43:13,869 --> 00:43:15,805 change. But at the end of the 1257 00:43:15,805 --> 00:43:17,673 day, I think that we really 1258 00:43:17,673 --> 00:43:18,741 need to take a step back and 1259 00:43:18,741 --> 00:43:20,676 get nmdot to Councilor Liz 1260 00:43:20,676 --> 00:43:21,910 Point to do their job and come 1261 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:23,779 down here and help us get these 1262 00:43:23,779 --> 00:43:24,947 businesses in place. So I have 1263 00:43:24,947 --> 00:43:27,830 some concerns as well as she 1264 00:43:27,830 --> 00:43:29,218 does, as well as she does with 1265 00:43:29,218 --> 00:43:30,720 the safety 800 cars on a 1266 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,870 residential road is that's a 1267 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:33,556 lot. I wouldn't want that 1268 00:43:33,556 --> 00:43:34,957 trapped in front of my house. 1269 00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:37,493 That's just me personally, but 1270 00:43:37,493 --> 00:43:38,928 whatever I yield for MR. Mayor. 1271 00:43:38,928 --> 00:43:39,295 Thank you, Councilor Tyler. 1272 00:43:39,295 --> 00:43:41,295 MR. 1273 00:43:41,831 --> 00:43:43,831 Mayor. 1274 00:43:44,366 --> 00:43:45,769 Councilor. 1275 00:43:45,769 --> 00:43:47,537 So I think 1276 00:43:47,537 --> 00:43:48,804 five of the seven of us were 1277 00:43:48,804 --> 00:43:51,804 here before. This is Champion 1278 00:43:51,941 --> 00:43:53,676 car wash discussion just on on 1279 00:43:53,676 --> 00:43:55,511 repeat. And it's going to be 1280 00:43:55,511 --> 00:43:56,913 any time for this three mile 1281 00:43:56,913 --> 00:43:58,514 stretch here starting at 1282 00:43:58,514 --> 00:44:00,149 northern up to where it gets 1283 00:44:00,149 --> 00:44:02,549 busy again around Enchanted 1284 00:44:03,385 --> 00:44:04,487 Hills area that, you know, the 1285 00:44:04,487 --> 00:44:05,621 East Side's developed. The West 1286 00:44:05,621 --> 00:44:07,590 side's not. You have certain 1287 00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:10,590 people that anytime it wouldn't 1288 00:44:10,593 --> 00:44:12,462 matter what's going in on that 1289 00:44:12,462 --> 00:44:13,596 west side. If it was a dental 1290 00:44:13,596 --> 00:44:14,964 office that moved two cars 1291 00:44:14,964 --> 00:44:17,434 through an hour, they'd be at 1292 00:44:17,434 --> 00:44:18,602 this meeting. Or if it was a 1293 00:44:18,602 --> 00:44:21,437 gas station, they'd be at this 1294 00:44:21,437 --> 00:44:22,138 meeting. I think that it's 1295 00:44:22,138 --> 00:44:23,940 unfair. We're all going to 1296 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:26,109 probably have the same general 1297 00:44:26,109 --> 00:44:28,311 remarks and discussions about 1298 00:44:28,311 --> 00:44:29,712 Nmdot. I think that you were 1299 00:44:29,712 --> 00:44:31,348 able to champion wasn't able to 1300 00:44:31,348 --> 00:44:33,216 get what you guys were able to 1301 00:44:33,216 --> 00:44:35,819 get with that right turn in, 1302 00:44:35,819 --> 00:44:36,987 which I think is a great that 1303 00:44:36,987 --> 00:44:39,550 that, you know, you're able to 1304 00:44:39,550 --> 00:44:42,655 get that carved out. I don't 1305 00:44:44,127 --> 00:44:46,630 think it's fair to you guys to 1306 00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:49,499 suffer because in Nmdot is 1307 00:44:49,499 --> 00:44:51,499 being ridiculous, intransigent 1308 00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:53,670 on this issue. Therefore, I do 1309 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:54,905 support the project. I think 1310 00:44:54,905 --> 00:44:57,400 the stipulation that we had or 1311 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,508 what we said in the last 1312 00:44:58,508 --> 00:44:59,676 meeting, and we were pretty 1313 00:44:59,676 --> 00:45:01,745 much in agreement on it, was, 1314 00:45:01,745 --> 00:45:03,546 we need you to go back to Nmdot, 1315 00:45:03,546 --> 00:45:05,716 try to push back as much as you 1316 00:45:05,716 --> 00:45:06,817 can. It's my understanding from 1317 00:45:06,817 --> 00:45:08,510 conversations that that was 1318 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:10,200 done with the help of the city. 1319 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,870 And so I appreciate Amy and 1320 00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:12,989 whoever else made some phone 1321 00:45:12,989 --> 00:45:14,191 calls and kind of pushed to be 1322 00:45:14,191 --> 00:45:16,193 able to get that right in. 1323 00:45:16,193 --> 00:45:18,193 That's really important. 1324 00:45:19,129 --> 00:45:20,130 However, we do. 528 is, is 1325 00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:21,332 going to be strategically 1326 00:45:21,332 --> 00:45:23,733 important for our whole city. 1327 00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,870 We need both the east side of 1328 00:45:25,870 --> 00:45:27,705 528 and the west side of 528 to 1329 00:45:27,705 --> 00:45:29,240 develop out. And I realize that 1330 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,607 every time anything, any type 1331 00:45:30,607 --> 00:45:33,143 of development comes on the 1332 00:45:33,143 --> 00:45:34,879 west side of. 528. This will be 1333 00:45:34,879 --> 00:45:36,414 the discussion that's had. 1334 00:45:36,414 --> 00:45:38,149 However, we definitely need to 1335 00:45:38,149 --> 00:45:39,583 start pushing. And by the way, 1336 00:45:39,583 --> 00:45:40,651 putting in businesses will get 1337 00:45:40,651 --> 00:45:42,119 infrastructure done. These 1338 00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:43,387 roads will need to get paved, 1339 00:45:43,387 --> 00:45:44,622 it'll need to get safer, and 1340 00:45:44,622 --> 00:45:46,491 it'll push some of that. Now, 1341 00:45:46,491 --> 00:45:48,326 the truth is, is that there's a 1342 00:45:48,326 --> 00:45:49,427 lot of people that live out 1343 00:45:49,427 --> 00:45:51,329 there. They don't want it to 1344 00:45:51,329 --> 00:45:52,363 get paved. They don't want, you 1345 00:45:52,363 --> 00:45:53,430 know, and that that's a 1346 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:55,333 personal choice. That's fine. 1347 00:45:55,333 --> 00:45:56,534 But I think that if if we're 1348 00:45:56,534 --> 00:45:58,336 going to live this close to a 1349 00:45:58,336 --> 00:45:59,403 major thoroughfare, we need to 1350 00:45:59,403 --> 00:46:02,306 understand the overall gr for 1351 00:46:02,306 --> 00:46:04,420 the city. So to, to be the 1352 00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:06,277 antithesis of Councilor Tyler's 1353 00:46:06,277 --> 00:46:08,790 point a little bit for, for the 1354 00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:09,480 whole of the city, I understand 1355 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,382 for the unfortunate situation 1356 00:46:11,382 --> 00:46:12,516 for, you know, 5 to 10 houses 1357 00:46:12,516 --> 00:46:14,251 that are going to be affected 1358 00:46:14,251 --> 00:46:15,553 right there. I don't think 1359 00:46:15,553 --> 00:46:17,388 there's very many people. I'd 1360 00:46:17,388 --> 00:46:18,556 be shocked if it's more than 5% 1361 00:46:18,556 --> 00:46:19,590 that are going to come onto 1362 00:46:19,590 --> 00:46:21,392 Monterey and turn right. 1363 00:46:21,392 --> 00:46:22,593 There'd be no reason to. You're 1364 00:46:22,593 --> 00:46:24,395 going to go left and you're 1365 00:46:24,395 --> 00:46:26,397 going to take the quickest way 1366 00:46:26,397 --> 00:46:27,498 to get back onto 528 to get to 1367 00:46:27,498 --> 00:46:29,367 where you're going. So I don't 1368 00:46:29,367 --> 00:46:30,568 think that, you know, you guys 1369 00:46:30,568 --> 00:46:32,370 going back to Nmdot, you guys 1370 00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:33,505 doing the outreach to the, to 1371 00:46:33,505 --> 00:46:35,373 the, to the community, to the 1372 00:46:35,373 --> 00:46:36,641 residents is what we asked for. 1373 00:46:36,641 --> 00:46:38,475 And so if we're going to deny, 1374 00:46:38,475 --> 00:46:39,644 again, I don't think we have 1375 00:46:39,644 --> 00:46:40,845 much grounds to stand on based 1376 00:46:40,845 --> 00:46:42,380 on our previous conversations 1377 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:43,448 in the last meeting. So 1378 00:46:43,448 --> 00:46:44,649 therefore, I do support the 1379 00:46:44,649 --> 00:46:46,384 project. And I do appreciate, 1380 00:46:46,384 --> 00:46:47,518 Amy, you guys, you know, going 1381 00:46:47,518 --> 00:46:48,686 back again and helping out and 1382 00:46:48,686 --> 00:46:50,154 working with Maverick and 1383 00:46:50,154 --> 00:46:51,389 working with the state, even 1384 00:46:51,389 --> 00:46:52,524 though, you know, there's not 1385 00:46:52,524 --> 00:46:53,825 much to work there with. I 1386 00:46:53,825 --> 00:46:55,393 appreciate that. And, you know, 1387 00:46:55,393 --> 00:46:56,395 thank you guys for bringing 1388 00:46:56,395 --> 00:46:58,960 this back forward tonight. 1389 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,198 That's all I have. MR. Mayor. 1390 00:47:00,198 --> 00:47:00,965 Thank you councilor. MR. Mayor, 1391 00:47:00,965 --> 00:47:02,330 councilor Culbreth. 1392 00:47:02,330 --> 00:47:03,435 Thank you. 1393 00:47:03,435 --> 00:47:05,971 I think it's important to be 1394 00:47:05,971 --> 00:47:08,139 clear that the ask was not 1395 00:47:08,139 --> 00:47:10,274 merely to have a conversation 1396 00:47:10,274 --> 00:47:12,143 with Nmdot, but the ask was to 1397 00:47:12,143 --> 00:47:14,450 get a specific outcome, which 1398 00:47:14,450 --> 00:47:17,148 was the right in and right out. 1399 00:47:17,148 --> 00:47:19,651 And so while I appreciate the 1400 00:47:19,651 --> 00:47:21,720 effort, it's unfortunate that 1401 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:22,888 an mdoti actually think it's 1402 00:47:22,888 --> 00:47:25,570 more unfortunate that they 1403 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:27,892 granted a right in without a 1404 00:47:27,892 --> 00:47:30,795 right out because my concern as 1405 00:47:30,795 --> 00:47:33,699 a driver is that a right in is 1406 00:47:33,699 --> 00:47:34,700 going to potentially drive more 1407 00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:36,568 vehicles, because you're right 1408 00:47:36,568 --> 00:47:38,437 there on 528 you see the right 1409 00:47:38,437 --> 00:47:40,171 in I'll go right in there and 1410 00:47:40,171 --> 00:47:42,730 then realize that I can't get 1411 00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:43,442 out and I'll have to go out 1412 00:47:43,442 --> 00:47:45,410 onto that residential road. So 1413 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:46,378 I think they actually did you a 1414 00:47:46,378 --> 00:47:47,646 disservice by granting the 1415 00:47:47,646 --> 00:47:50,216 right in, in the absence of the 1416 00:47:50,216 --> 00:47:53,819 right out. And so we have to 1417 00:47:53,819 --> 00:47:56,819 weigh everything in a 360 view. 1418 00:47:57,422 --> 00:47:59,991 I think we are held not by the 1419 00:47:59,991 --> 00:48:01,761 emotion of how we feel about 1420 00:48:01,761 --> 00:48:04,761 the project. I actually have 1421 00:48:05,364 --> 00:48:07,866 zero concern around the the 1422 00:48:07,866 --> 00:48:10,680 health component. I'm not 1423 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,304 worried necessarily about the 1424 00:48:12,304 --> 00:48:14,340 tanks. If there were a couple 1425 00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:16,108 of different pieces to this 1426 00:48:16,108 --> 00:48:18,110 project. I'm not concerned 1427 00:48:18,110 --> 00:48:19,379 about the gas station. Right. 1428 00:48:19,379 --> 00:48:21,914 And that's actually not a 1429 00:48:21,914 --> 00:48:23,382 concern that we are allowed to 1430 00:48:23,382 --> 00:48:25,782 consider when we are 1431 00:48:26,252 --> 00:48:28,530 considering this by our charter, 1432 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:29,488 what we are required to 1433 00:48:29,488 --> 00:48:31,290 consider is what's brought 1434 00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:33,826 before us when we're looking at 1435 00:48:33,826 --> 00:48:34,994 the Soo district. And as 1436 00:48:34,994 --> 00:48:36,695 Councilor Lewis pointed out, 1437 00:48:36,695 --> 00:48:39,198 one of the things that we are 1438 00:48:39,198 --> 00:48:41,401 to evaluate is the proposed 1439 00:48:41,401 --> 00:48:42,468 ingress, egress, parking and 1440 00:48:42,468 --> 00:48:44,270 circulation. And so 1441 00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:45,705 unfortunately, I think for this 1442 00:48:45,705 --> 00:48:47,506 project, it is not the use 1443 00:48:47,506 --> 00:48:49,642 that's the issue. It's the 1444 00:48:49,642 --> 00:48:50,710 ingress egress and the 1445 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:53,110 circulation that becomes an 1446 00:48:53,980 --> 00:48:57,216 issue. And while it is not your 1447 00:48:57,216 --> 00:48:58,651 fault that an ndot continues to 1448 00:48:58,651 --> 00:48:59,785 fail, the citizens of Rio 1449 00:48:59,785 --> 00:49:02,288 Rancho when it comes to New 1450 00:49:02,288 --> 00:49:04,357 Mexico Highway 528, it is still 1451 00:49:04,357 --> 00:49:05,858 our responsibility to take that 1452 00:49:05,858 --> 00:49:08,600 into consideration. And so 1453 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,660 because of that, I find that 1454 00:49:11,931 --> 00:49:14,167 this site plan still fails to 1455 00:49:14,167 --> 00:49:15,568 meet the requirements. That 1456 00:49:15,568 --> 00:49:17,968 would be necessary and 1457 00:49:18,137 --> 00:49:20,607 satisfied for me to approve it. 1458 00:49:20,607 --> 00:49:22,342 I would really actually like to 1459 00:49:22,342 --> 00:49:23,910 approve this, but I think we 1460 00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:25,645 find ourselves in a difficult 1461 00:49:25,645 --> 00:49:27,790 situation, and I encourage the 1462 00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:28,882 citizens of Rio Rancho to 1463 00:49:28,882 --> 00:49:31,785 continue to voice your concerns 1464 00:49:31,785 --> 00:49:35,385 about this and the issues that 1465 00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:37,824 are in on 528. It is in our 1466 00:49:37,824 --> 00:49:40,460 public record, so you can take 1467 00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:42,229 a look at it on the the the 1468 00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:45,229 components of the docket for 1469 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,502 today that in the memo, Nmdot 1470 00:49:49,502 --> 00:49:51,538 identifies on 81426 that there 1471 00:49:51,538 --> 00:49:53,407 is a concern and a need to 1472 00:49:53,407 --> 00:49:55,542 review the 528 corridor, and 1473 00:49:55,542 --> 00:49:56,976 that is fully necessary so that 1474 00:49:56,976 --> 00:49:59,146 we can get the development that 1475 00:49:59,146 --> 00:50:00,247 we need. And I think until we 1476 00:50:00,247 --> 00:50:02,490 have that, we're going to be 1477 00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:03,183 stuck in a very difficult 1478 00:50:03,183 --> 00:50:04,184 situation. So thank you very 1479 00:50:04,184 --> 00:50:04,517 much, MR. Mayor. 1480 00:50:04,517 --> 00:50:06,517 Thank you, 1481 00:50:07,755 --> 00:50:09,755 councilor Culbreath COUNCILMAN. 1482 00:50:11,725 --> 00:50:13,527 MR. Mayor. I want to thank the 1483 00:50:13,527 --> 00:50:16,960 three folks that that gave 1484 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,497 comment. They their comments 1485 00:50:17,497 --> 00:50:18,933 were civil. They were well 1486 00:50:18,933 --> 00:50:21,101 researched. They clearly put in 1487 00:50:21,101 --> 00:50:23,971 a lot of time and effort to 1488 00:50:23,971 --> 00:50:25,739 figure things out. And that's 1489 00:50:25,739 --> 00:50:27,700 really useful. And so thank you 1490 00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:28,742 for coming up and giving us 1491 00:50:28,742 --> 00:50:31,245 that information so that we can 1492 00:50:31,245 --> 00:50:32,713 make a decision here today. I 1493 00:50:32,713 --> 00:50:34,448 do think, and I'll echo what 1494 00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:35,750 has been shared today, that the 1495 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:37,750 Department of Transportation 1496 00:50:38,753 --> 00:50:40,187 for the state has created a 1497 00:50:40,187 --> 00:50:41,255 roadblock to economic 1498 00:50:41,255 --> 00:50:44,158 development in our city. And 1499 00:50:44,158 --> 00:50:45,926 that's not okay. And I hope 1500 00:50:45,926 --> 00:50:48,429 that they hear that message 1501 00:50:48,429 --> 00:50:51,429 tonight and that they can 1502 00:50:51,699 --> 00:50:53,500 change things around. What 1503 00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:55,235 we're supposed to do tonight is 1504 00:50:55,235 --> 00:50:56,370 review and approve a site plan, 1505 00:50:56,370 --> 00:50:57,571 right? We're not talking as has 1506 00:50:57,571 --> 00:50:59,640 been shared already. We're not 1507 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,241 talking about whether a, a gas 1508 00:51:01,241 --> 00:51:02,877 station is a good idea or not. 1509 00:51:02,877 --> 00:51:04,278 I happen to think that it's a 1510 00:51:04,278 --> 00:51:05,746 fantastic product. I think 1511 00:51:05,746 --> 00:51:07,248 Maverick is a great product. 1512 00:51:07,248 --> 00:51:10,451 I'd love to see a Maverick in 1513 00:51:10,451 --> 00:51:11,286 Rio Rancho, but part of that 1514 00:51:11,286 --> 00:51:14,550 review that we're supposed to 1515 00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:15,890 do is determine ingress, egress, 1516 00:51:15,890 --> 00:51:17,324 parking and circulation. And 1517 00:51:17,324 --> 00:51:18,693 that's quite a broad review. I 1518 00:51:18,693 --> 00:51:20,161 think that encompasses whether 1519 00:51:20,161 --> 00:51:23,300 it whether the ingress and 1520 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:24,465 egress is reasonable. And in my 1521 00:51:24,465 --> 00:51:26,267 mind, and I'm echoing again 1522 00:51:26,267 --> 00:51:27,802 what's already been shared when 1523 00:51:27,802 --> 00:51:31,402 you root, when you have when 1524 00:51:31,673 --> 00:51:34,875 you root 100% of exit from a 1525 00:51:34,875 --> 00:51:37,450 commercial development onto a 1526 00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:38,813 residential road with front 1527 00:51:38,813 --> 00:51:40,648 yard, front yards facing that 1528 00:51:40,648 --> 00:51:42,817 road is just not reasonable. 1529 00:51:42,817 --> 00:51:44,352 And I couldn't in good 1530 00:51:44,352 --> 00:51:46,287 conscience vote in favor of it. 1531 00:51:46,287 --> 00:51:49,290 If that was my home, it would 1532 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:52,527 be devastating to me. And so I 1533 00:51:52,527 --> 00:51:53,661 think it's also it would be 1534 00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:55,429 inconsistent with what we've 1535 00:51:55,429 --> 00:51:56,765 done throughout the city. So 1536 00:51:56,765 --> 00:51:58,633 anytime you have a road like 1537 00:51:58,633 --> 00:52:00,502 this, that's that's essentially 1538 00:52:00,502 --> 00:52:02,604 residential road, that's that 1539 00:52:02,604 --> 00:52:04,806 commercial traffic is feeding 1540 00:52:04,806 --> 00:52:06,208 onto the home. You're usually 1541 00:52:06,208 --> 00:52:07,943 if there are residences on the 1542 00:52:07,943 --> 00:52:09,845 other side of that road, it's 1543 00:52:09,845 --> 00:52:11,246 usually a backyard or at least 1544 00:52:11,246 --> 00:52:13,114 a side yard. And if and if 1545 00:52:13,114 --> 00:52:14,282 those of you who are listening 1546 00:52:14,282 --> 00:52:16,117 to, to my comment here can 1547 00:52:16,117 --> 00:52:17,352 reflect on that, if you look 1548 00:52:17,352 --> 00:52:18,487 around the city, that's you can 1549 00:52:18,487 --> 00:52:20,288 say, that's that's right. You 1550 00:52:20,288 --> 00:52:22,123 know, I can't I can't think of 1551 00:52:22,123 --> 00:52:23,258 an example where we have front 1552 00:52:23,258 --> 00:52:24,359 yards facing a road that's 1553 00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:26,280 going to have this level of 1554 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,196 traffic, high volume traffic. 1555 00:52:28,196 --> 00:52:29,631 And so that's where I stand. I 1556 00:52:29,631 --> 00:52:31,567 hope that the Dot hears this 1557 00:52:31,567 --> 00:52:33,268 message tonight and that there 1558 00:52:33,268 --> 00:52:35,771 can be future discussions so 1559 00:52:35,771 --> 00:52:37,606 that there can be a way to move 1560 00:52:37,606 --> 00:52:40,776 forward on this project. But I 1561 00:52:40,776 --> 00:52:42,978 yield. Thank you, COUNCILMAN. 1562 00:52:42,978 --> 00:52:43,145 MR. Mayor, Councilor Dobson. 1563 00:52:43,145 --> 00:52:44,779 So 1564 00:52:44,779 --> 00:52:45,947 I have to echo everybody's 1565 00:52:45,947 --> 00:52:48,784 concerns. So I'm not going to 1566 00:52:48,784 --> 00:52:51,586 repeat them. But I just want to 1567 00:52:51,586 --> 00:52:53,722 say that I really hope that we 1568 00:52:53,722 --> 00:52:57,260 can find a way to work with you 1569 00:52:57,260 --> 00:52:59,610 because I think we need a 1570 00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:00,730 maverick here. And I want us to 1571 00:53:00,730 --> 00:53:02,298 have a maverick here. I don't 1572 00:53:02,298 --> 00:53:03,265 know that we can have a 1573 00:53:03,265 --> 00:53:05,665 maverick at this location, 1574 00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:07,837 because I'm also very concerned 1575 00:53:07,837 --> 00:53:09,204 about I, I work in that area. I 1576 00:53:09,204 --> 00:53:10,406 don't live there, but I take 1577 00:53:10,406 --> 00:53:12,274 care of people that live there. 1578 00:53:12,274 --> 00:53:14,210 And I know what it's like. And 1579 00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:16,479 we don't want to put 500 cars 1580 00:53:16,479 --> 00:53:20,116 on that road. I just can't do 1581 00:53:20,116 --> 00:53:20,289 it. Thank you very much. 1582 00:53:20,289 --> 00:53:21,116 Thank 1583 00:53:21,116 --> 00:53:22,217 you, Councilor. 1584 00:53:22,217 --> 00:53:23,385 Dobson, 1585 00:53:23,385 --> 00:53:25,822 director, and I have a couple 1586 00:53:25,822 --> 00:53:28,222 of clarification questions for. 1587 00:53:28,324 --> 00:53:29,792 You. 1588 00:53:29,792 --> 00:53:31,227 First, there was a 1589 00:53:31,227 --> 00:53:33,627 discussion by MISS Eisenberg 1590 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,898 about notification. Can you 1591 00:53:35,898 --> 00:53:37,333 describe the process and how 1592 00:53:37,333 --> 00:53:39,733 it's determined who gets 1593 00:53:43,105 --> 00:53:44,908 notified? 1594 00:53:44,908 --> 00:53:46,576 MR. Mayor? Yes. So 1595 00:53:46,576 --> 00:53:49,576 when we look at notifications, 1596 00:53:50,279 --> 00:53:53,148 we use chapter 150.03. And so 1597 00:53:53,148 --> 00:53:54,817 for site plans, the for 1598 00:53:54,817 --> 00:53:57,217 notifications, we are required 1599 00:53:57,820 --> 00:53:59,288 to notify adjacent properties. 1600 00:53:59,288 --> 00:54:02,158 And when we are talking about 1601 00:54:02,158 --> 00:54:03,593 adjacent properties, those are 1602 00:54:03,593 --> 00:54:05,762 properties that are lying next 1603 00:54:05,762 --> 00:54:06,329 to or bordering the subject 1604 00:54:06,329 --> 00:54:08,329 property 1605 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,735 Site and so on. It's 1606 00:54:12,735 --> 00:54:15,671 kind of hard to see on this map, 1607 00:54:15,671 --> 00:54:17,808 but on the right hand side, the 1608 00:54:17,808 --> 00:54:19,609 lots that are in the dark 1609 00:54:19,609 --> 00:54:21,111 border are the lots that are 1610 00:54:21,111 --> 00:54:22,912 the subject property. So the 1611 00:54:22,912 --> 00:54:26,149 five lots that for the site 1612 00:54:26,149 --> 00:54:27,950 plan and then the lots that are 1613 00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:30,487 hatched around them are the 1614 00:54:30,487 --> 00:54:33,487 lots that were notified. And 1615 00:54:33,723 --> 00:54:35,525 again, those are by our code. 1616 00:54:35,525 --> 00:54:38,461 The lots that are adjacent to 1617 00:54:38,461 --> 00:54:39,960 the subject site. 1618 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,564 Thank you. 1619 00:54:40,564 --> 00:54:44,201 And then can you bring up the 1620 00:54:44,201 --> 00:54:46,770 site plan? MR. And I, this MAY 1621 00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:49,173 be a subject that doesn't need 1622 00:54:49,173 --> 00:54:50,240 to be discussed, but. MR. 1623 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:51,408 Mentioned something about 1624 00:54:51,408 --> 00:54:53,143 there's not a dedicated right 1625 00:54:53,143 --> 00:54:55,712 turn off of. 528 and I believe 1626 00:54:55,712 --> 00:54:57,113 I saw one when I think it's 1627 00:54:57,113 --> 00:54:59,983 shown there on the bottom of 1628 00:54:59,983 --> 00:55:02,983 the screen. Is that accurate? 1629 00:55:03,186 --> 00:55:05,210 So, MR. Mayor, yes. So from 1630 00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:06,823 what the developer is going to 1631 00:55:06,823 --> 00:55:08,291 build out, what they'll be 1632 00:55:08,291 --> 00:55:10,794 required to build out would be 1633 00:55:10,794 --> 00:55:12,963 a dedicated right turn lane 1634 00:55:12,963 --> 00:55:14,310 from New Mexico. 528 onto 1635 00:55:14,310 --> 00:55:16,566 Obregon. And then there would 1636 00:55:16,566 --> 00:55:18,368 be additional turn lanes that 1637 00:55:18,368 --> 00:55:21,605 they would need to build from 1638 00:55:21,605 --> 00:55:23,140 Obregon back onto 528. And then 1639 00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:24,508 with the updated site plan, 1640 00:55:24,508 --> 00:55:26,977 there would be that additional 1641 00:55:26,977 --> 00:55:28,779 right in off of 528. And I can, 1642 00:55:28,779 --> 00:55:32,979 if you bear with me for a 1643 00:55:33,117 --> 00:55:35,652 second. That would be this 1644 00:55:35,652 --> 00:55:36,353 location here. 1645 00:55:36,353 --> 00:55:38,353 So while we've 1646 00:55:40,691 --> 00:55:44,891 got this up and looking at the 1647 00:55:44,962 --> 00:55:46,564 right in only off of Obregon is, 1648 00:55:46,564 --> 00:55:49,367 is the reason that that can't 1649 00:55:49,367 --> 00:55:50,401 be a right in, right out due to 1650 00:55:50,401 --> 00:55:52,203 the proximity of the 1651 00:55:52,203 --> 00:55:53,704 intersection is. I just was 1652 00:55:53,704 --> 00:55:56,874 curious if that ever got that 1653 00:55:56,874 --> 00:55:57,575 question ever got asked. 1654 00:55:57,575 --> 00:55:59,575 Yes, 1655 00:55:59,744 --> 00:56:01,312 MR. Mayor. Yes. So it's the 1656 00:56:01,312 --> 00:56:04,810 proximity to Monterey and then 1657 00:56:04,810 --> 00:56:04,415 the proximity to 528. 1658 00:56:04,415 --> 00:56:06,415 Okay. 1659 00:56:06,583 --> 00:56:08,452 Thank you. That's all I have. 1660 00:56:08,452 --> 00:56:10,154 Anything further from council? 1661 00:56:10,154 --> 00:56:12,824 MR. Mayor, if I MAY, real fast. 1662 00:56:12,824 --> 00:56:14,124 MR. City Manager. 1663 00:56:14,124 --> 00:56:16,124 Elaborate on 1664 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,830 the. Currently on 528 1665 00:56:18,830 --> 00:56:21,320 southbound. There is no right 1666 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,167 turn or deceleration lane to 1667 00:56:23,167 --> 00:56:24,602 overgrown. Same thing on 528 1668 00:56:24,602 --> 00:56:26,738 northbound. There's not a 1669 00:56:26,738 --> 00:56:29,138 deceleration lane onto Corrales 1670 00:56:29,974 --> 00:56:31,809 Road. The reference from Rio 1671 00:56:31,809 --> 00:56:32,543 Rancho pd in their 1672 00:56:32,543 --> 00:56:33,611 conversations because they 1673 00:56:33,611 --> 00:56:35,746 participate in different safety 1674 00:56:35,746 --> 00:56:37,648 reviews of the. The dot part of 1675 00:56:37,648 --> 00:56:39,170 the different meetings. They 1676 00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:40,284 have highlighted that from a 1677 00:56:40,284 --> 00:56:42,530 law enforcement perspective. 1678 00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:43,121 And I think our our engineering 1679 00:56:43,121 --> 00:56:44,422 folks and development services 1680 00:56:44,422 --> 00:56:45,890 and public works have also 1681 00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:47,259 highlighted that that that is 1682 00:56:47,259 --> 00:56:49,600 the an issue at that 1683 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,528 intersection is the lack of 1684 00:56:50,528 --> 00:56:52,928 deceleration lanes to make 1685 00:56:54,980 --> 00:56:54,282 right turns east or west. 1686 00:56:54,282 --> 00:56:56,282 Thank 1687 00:56:56,300 --> 00:56:59,171 you, MR. City Manager. Anything 1688 00:56:59,171 --> 00:56:59,538 further from council. 1689 00:56:59,538 --> 00:57:01,538 MR. Mayor? 1690 00:57:02,174 --> 00:57:03,675 I just wanted to ask, I don't 1691 00:57:03,675 --> 00:57:05,978 know if that makes a difference 1692 00:57:05,978 --> 00:57:08,146 or not, but in any of my 1693 00:57:08,146 --> 00:57:09,348 counterparts. But in the 1694 00:57:09,348 --> 00:57:10,682 conversation back with the dot, 1695 00:57:10,682 --> 00:57:12,150 they said that the current 1696 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:13,952 proposed development would not 1697 00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:16,952 meet the required spacing of 1698 00:57:17,890 --> 00:57:19,257 the 450 to 625 part parcel 1699 00:57:19,257 --> 00:57:20,792 access, meaning it's not wide 1700 00:57:20,792 --> 00:57:21,459 enough for them. That's their 1701 00:57:21,459 --> 00:57:23,295 validation for not giving the 1702 00:57:23,295 --> 00:57:25,630 right in right out. However, if 1703 00:57:25,630 --> 00:57:27,966 you measure the space, we're 1704 00:57:27,966 --> 00:57:29,435 actually in the 590 foot range. 1705 00:57:29,435 --> 00:57:31,603 So so it's just someone making 1706 00:57:31,603 --> 00:57:32,671 a decision. There's also the 1707 00:57:32,671 --> 00:57:33,772 opportunity that I don't know 1708 00:57:33,772 --> 00:57:35,607 if they're willing or not, but 1709 00:57:35,607 --> 00:57:38,607 the the property owner could 1710 00:57:39,111 --> 00:57:40,279 throw in another half acre and, 1711 00:57:40,279 --> 00:57:42,114 and make those measurements. So 1712 00:57:42,114 --> 00:57:44,182 it's very doable. It's clearly 1713 00:57:44,182 --> 00:57:45,951 a decision on the part of the 1714 00:57:45,951 --> 00:57:48,530 dot to not be workable. So I 1715 00:57:48,530 --> 00:57:52,253 just I wanted to put that out 1716 00:57:52,424 --> 00:57:54,426 there. My apologies to Maverick. 1717 00:57:54,426 --> 00:57:55,760 You know, I tend to agree with 1718 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,530 a lot of the comments that have 1719 00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:58,931 been said. And I think it's 1720 00:57:58,931 --> 00:58:00,366 somewhat, if not very short 1721 00:58:00,366 --> 00:58:02,167 sighted. We have a solution 1722 00:58:02,167 --> 00:58:04,200 here that not only solves the 1723 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,371 problem with the Maverick, but 1724 00:58:05,371 --> 00:58:08,274 several other lots that are 1725 00:58:08,274 --> 00:58:09,708 along the frontage of 528, and 1726 00:58:09,708 --> 00:58:12,644 we are going to lose that 1727 00:58:12,644 --> 00:58:14,747 opportunity because again, you 1728 00:58:14,747 --> 00:58:16,148 got the rest of the council has 1729 00:58:16,148 --> 00:58:18,170 thrown the dot under the bus 1730 00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:20,152 very, very effectively, so I 1731 00:58:20,152 --> 00:58:23,210 won't be beating a dead horse. 1732 00:58:23,210 --> 00:58:25,191 But it's very unfortunate that 1733 00:58:25,191 --> 00:58:26,993 that simple change could have 1734 00:58:26,993 --> 00:58:28,194 resulted in a different outcome 1735 00:58:28,194 --> 00:58:30,863 here. Although we haven't taken 1736 00:58:30,863 --> 00:58:33,866 a vote yet. That said, is there 1737 00:58:33,866 --> 00:58:36,266 anything further from council? 1738 00:58:38,905 --> 00:58:41,740 MISS Davis, call the roll. 1739 00:58:41,740 --> 00:58:43,575 Councilor. 1740 00:58:43,575 --> 00:58:43,910 Yes. 1741 00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:45,910 Councilor 1742 00:58:48,614 --> 00:58:49,649 Dobson, councilor Tyler. No. 1743 00:58:49,649 --> 00:58:50,783 Councilor. Man. 1744 00:58:50,783 --> 00:58:51,450 No. 1745 00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:53,450 Councilor 1746 00:58:53,987 --> 00:58:56,387 Culbreth. No. Councilor list. 1747 00:59:00,826 --> 00:59:02,662 No. The d 23 fails. 1748 00:59:02,662 --> 00:59:04,197 All right, 1749 00:59:04,197 --> 00:59:06,266 moving on to the second reading 1750 00:59:06,266 --> 00:59:08,340 of ordinances. We have none. 1751 00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:10,870 First reading of ordinances. We 1752 00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:12,338 also have none. Discussion and 1753 00:59:12,338 --> 00:59:15,208 deliberation. We have no items 1754 00:59:15,208 --> 00:59:16,343 there. So it's Europe. MR. City 1755 00:59:16,343 --> 00:59:17,377 manager. 1756 00:59:17,377 --> 00:59:18,478 MR. Mayor, members of 1757 00:59:18,478 --> 00:59:20,647 the governing body. Good 1758 00:59:20,647 --> 00:59:23,517 evening. I'd like to kind of go 1759 00:59:23,517 --> 00:59:26,517 through a couple items this 1760 00:59:27,870 --> 00:59:29,220 evening, if I MAY. First of all, 1761 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:30,757 tomorrow, SEPTEMBER 11th, nine 1762 00:59:30,757 --> 00:59:33,757 over 11. It's hard to believe 1763 00:59:34,328 --> 00:59:35,762 it's been 25 years. It's very 1764 00:59:35,762 --> 00:59:36,830 you know, think about I 1765 00:59:36,830 --> 00:59:39,320 appreciate the moment of 1766 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,800 reflection, mayor, for that 1767 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,200 tough day in America. Our 1768 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,805 history. For me, I was living 1769 00:59:44,805 --> 00:59:46,473 halfway across the country. I'd 1770 00:59:46,473 --> 00:59:47,607 been in my new, new location 1771 00:59:47,607 --> 00:59:49,742 for about two weeks when it 1772 00:59:49,742 --> 00:59:51,440 happened so far from family and 1773 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,146 friends. But visiting the nine 1774 00:59:53,146 --> 00:59:54,815 over 11 memorial in New York 1775 00:59:54,815 --> 00:59:56,283 City was a tremendous moment 1776 00:59:56,283 --> 00:59:57,751 for me as well. Actually 1777 00:59:57,751 --> 00:59:58,419 visited with one of our Rio 1778 00:59:58,419 --> 00:59:59,387 Rancho, was retired 1779 00:59:59,387 --> 01:00:01,255 firefighters, so it was a 1780 01:00:01,255 --> 01:00:02,556 special moment for him as well. 1781 01:00:02,556 --> 01:00:04,357 For us to go through that and 1782 01:00:04,357 --> 01:00:06,360 just reflect on what it means 1783 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,828 for our country and, you know, 1784 01:00:07,828 --> 01:00:09,596 personally, been very busy of 1785 01:00:09,596 --> 01:00:11,498 late. And so hopefully I find 1786 01:00:11,498 --> 01:00:14,902 some time to take a moment to 1787 01:00:14,902 --> 01:00:17,137 reflect on. On nine over 11 1788 01:00:17,137 --> 01:00:18,839 tomorrow and, and thoughts and 1789 01:00:18,839 --> 01:00:20,307 thoughts for everyone who lost 1790 01:00:20,307 --> 01:00:23,307 close family and friends in 1791 01:00:23,544 --> 01:00:26,413 that process. A couple other 1792 01:00:26,413 --> 01:00:28,813 things. This Saturday, pooch 1793 01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:31,452 plunge at Heinz from it's from 1794 01:00:31,452 --> 01:00:34,321 10 to 2 and nestled in Pooch 1795 01:00:34,321 --> 01:00:36,123 Plunge, we have our counselor 1796 01:00:36,123 --> 01:00:38,392 governing body meet and greet 1797 01:00:38,392 --> 01:00:39,760 from 11 to 1, so we look 1798 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,760 forward, look forward to seeing 1799 01:00:43,364 --> 01:00:44,498 folks out at Heinz Park this 1800 01:00:44,498 --> 01:00:46,367 weekend. I would like to kind 1801 01:00:46,367 --> 01:00:47,468 of cover over, cover some other 1802 01:00:47,468 --> 01:00:50,504 kind of business items, if I 1803 01:00:50,504 --> 01:00:52,673 MAY. As we know, there is a 1804 01:00:52,673 --> 01:00:55,673 election in the first Tuesday 1805 01:00:56,110 --> 01:00:59,180 of NOVEMBER. It is a federal 1806 01:00:59,180 --> 01:01:00,248 and state election. Hearing 1807 01:01:00,248 --> 01:01:02,490 some feedback from the 1808 01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:04,449 governing body, in particular, 1809 01:01:05,653 --> 01:01:07,121 Councilor Tyler, we sent a 1810 01:01:07,121 --> 01:01:09,521 proactive letter to the 1811 01:01:10,324 --> 01:01:12,160 declared candidates about the 1812 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,827 city's sign ordinance for 1813 01:01:13,827 --> 01:01:15,362 temporary signs in the right of 1814 01:01:15,362 --> 01:01:17,980 way that was sent to the 1815 01:01:17,980 --> 01:01:18,967 information listed on the New 1816 01:01:18,967 --> 01:01:20,368 Mexico Secretary of State's 1817 01:01:20,368 --> 01:01:21,869 website. So if there's any 1818 01:01:21,869 --> 01:01:24,500 candidates out there listening 1819 01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:26,405 or people supporting candidates, 1820 01:01:26,674 --> 01:01:28,310 helping candidates, please look 1821 01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:29,477 at the letter. We had one 1822 01:01:29,477 --> 01:01:31,613 candidate say, yeah, I got your 1823 01:01:31,613 --> 01:01:32,980 letter, and I threw it away. 1824 01:01:32,980 --> 01:01:34,582 That was after we picked up 1825 01:01:34,582 --> 01:01:36,284 several of their signs for not 1826 01:01:36,284 --> 01:01:38,684 having the appropriate permit. 1827 01:01:40,555 --> 01:01:41,322 So, or simply email 1828 01:01:41,322 --> 01:01:42,724 planning@rr.Gov. In the 1829 01:01:42,724 --> 01:01:44,724 planning department, the 1830 01:01:44,926 --> 01:01:47,326 Planning Division will assist 1831 01:01:47,796 --> 01:01:49,931 the campaign in the signage 1832 01:01:49,931 --> 01:01:52,800 process. A lot of conversations 1833 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,936 around license plate readers. 1834 01:01:54,936 --> 01:01:58,907 As we know at our recent work 1835 01:01:58,907 --> 01:02:00,375 session in AUGUST, captain and 1836 01:02:00,375 --> 01:02:01,843 members of the Rio Rancho 1837 01:02:01,843 --> 01:02:04,243 Police Department provided a. 1838 01:02:04,312 --> 01:02:07,216 An overview and an information 1839 01:02:07,216 --> 01:02:09,510 session on on on license plate 1840 01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:10,284 readers. Information from that 1841 01:02:10,284 --> 01:02:11,886 presentation has been posted on 1842 01:02:11,886 --> 01:02:14,456 a dedicated page on the city's 1843 01:02:14,456 --> 01:02:16,591 website. You know, you can find 1844 01:02:16,591 --> 01:02:18,893 it on our m.Gov or simply 1845 01:02:18,893 --> 01:02:19,961 Google Rio Rancho license 1846 01:02:19,961 --> 01:02:21,829 plates reader. You can find a 1847 01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:23,640 lot of information. We put it 1848 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,567 out there on purpose to share 1849 01:02:25,567 --> 01:02:27,336 it with the public so they can 1850 01:02:27,336 --> 01:02:28,437 learn more about how the city 1851 01:02:28,437 --> 01:02:29,704 of Rio Rancho is using the 1852 01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:32,104 license plate reader programs. 1853 01:02:32,340 --> 01:02:34,976 So again, encourage folks to to 1854 01:02:34,976 --> 01:02:36,379 look at that as a resource. And, 1855 01:02:36,379 --> 01:02:39,979 and it's there on the city's 1856 01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:42,517 website also, I have here, 1857 01:02:42,517 --> 01:02:44,319 Peter went upstairs and got 1858 01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:45,454 some water bills for me. I 1859 01:02:45,454 --> 01:02:47,189 thought it would be important 1860 01:02:47,189 --> 01:02:48,590 in a timely to address 1861 01:02:48,590 --> 01:02:51,590 something that was, that was 1862 01:02:52,961 --> 01:02:54,396 said this evening, the city, 1863 01:02:54,396 --> 01:02:56,631 you know, the the the water. 1864 01:02:56,631 --> 01:02:58,334 Rate adjustments that came up, 1865 01:02:58,334 --> 01:03:00,869 you know, a year ago, we've 1866 01:03:00,869 --> 01:03:02,671 acknowledged it. And talked 1867 01:03:02,671 --> 01:03:04,806 about the process to get it 1868 01:03:04,806 --> 01:03:06,806 corrected. Unfortunately, given 1869 01:03:08,711 --> 01:03:11,280 a rather old erp system wasn't 1870 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,681 an easy process in calculating 1871 01:03:12,681 --> 01:03:14,182 those credits in our enterprise 1872 01:03:14,182 --> 01:03:16,582 resource planning system, our 1873 01:03:17,530 --> 01:03:19,588 erp, starting on AUGUST 11th, 1874 01:03:19,588 --> 01:03:22,424 the city started to issue the 1875 01:03:22,424 --> 01:03:24,560 credits for fy 26 and the 1876 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,560 billing cycle of SEPTEMBER. We 1877 01:03:27,864 --> 01:03:31,660 will see fy 25 and fy 24, and 1878 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:34,666 then OCTOBER will be fy 23 and 1879 01:03:36,105 --> 01:03:39,800 fy 22, NOVEMBER fy 21 and fy 20. 1880 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,409 There are messages in the bill 1881 01:03:40,409 --> 01:03:42,978 explaining that. And the big 1882 01:03:42,978 --> 01:03:44,847 bold blue. So folks are 1883 01:03:44,847 --> 01:03:47,617 starting to see those. It's 1884 01:03:47,617 --> 01:03:49,886 also worth noting that we did 1885 01:03:49,886 --> 01:03:51,587 offer to individuals. When this 1886 01:03:51,587 --> 01:03:52,655 was acknowledged in this. This 1887 01:03:52,655 --> 01:03:55,191 error was detected and that 1888 01:03:55,191 --> 01:03:56,292 came from citizen input that 1889 01:03:56,292 --> 01:03:57,427 anyone wanted to request a 1890 01:03:57,427 --> 01:03:59,428 credit at that time and not 1891 01:03:59,428 --> 01:04:00,496 wait for us to go through that 1892 01:04:00,496 --> 01:04:02,640 process. We calculate credits 1893 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,866 and issue those manually. We 1894 01:04:03,866 --> 01:04:05,535 had a handful of residents, 5 1895 01:04:05,535 --> 01:04:07,504 to 10 residents or so took us 1896 01:04:07,504 --> 01:04:09,305 up on that. But the process is 1897 01:04:09,305 --> 01:04:11,774 rolling out right now, and 1898 01:04:11,774 --> 01:04:13,543 there is a message in the water 1899 01:04:13,543 --> 01:04:15,745 bill up in the upper left hand 1900 01:04:15,745 --> 01:04:17,948 corner. So with that, MR. Mayor, 1901 01:04:17,948 --> 01:04:18,948 members of the governing body, 1902 01:04:18,948 --> 01:04:19,682 have a good evening. 1903 01:04:19,682 --> 01:04:21,117 Thank you. 1904 01:04:21,117 --> 01:04:24,717 Thank you, MR. City Manager. We 1905 01:04:39,588 --> 01:04:41,588 are adjourned.