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We on the 6th, 3rd, I heard talking down there like, she's probably going to conversation. Okay.

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Well, welcome to the Urban High City Council meeting. Today is August 13th, Thursday, out of 13th. We welcome Michelle Denson back in town.

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Thank you.

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Present are myself Mayor Blake Wright.

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Recorder Sheila Lind, Councilmember Mark Maulstrom,

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Lance Pitcher, Steve Roberts, Chris Millbank.

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Expect the candy ovens eventually.

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Terzior Michelle Jensen, Public Works Director Clayton

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Nelson, and we also have our city engineer, Craig Rasmussen

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with this.

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Appreciate you all being here.

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If you'd like, let's stand and say the point

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we'll be doing together.

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All right, well as your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Next on the agenda is to adopt our previous meeting minutes and tonight's agenda.

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I

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have any comments about the minutes.

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I'll let a few people.

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Yeah, I just made one comment, and

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one was attributed

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to me, and that was actually candy

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about the accessory dwelling unit answers.

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That's all I have.

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OK, I made that one.

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And then I actually made changes that you guys didn't catch.

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I included council member Matthews in all of the motions.

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and so I took her to know you had an extra council member voting, so you have council member

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Roberts.

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Right.

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He had Stephen there, but I'm out of use, so I made those changes.

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Any other changes?

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All right.

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I'll accept a motion tonight's agenda in minutes.

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I'll make a motion to approve the previous minutes of August 4th, 2026, and tonight's agenda

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8th of August 13th, 2026.

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I'll second the motion.

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Motion in a second. Any further discussion? All in favor?

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Yes. Yes.

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Thank you.

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Since we don't plan to have a meeting next Tuesday on the 18th, she and I thought now would be

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a good time to just catch up on council member reports, staff reports, so we'll go down the

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road, she would do anything.

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No, just, here's your Apple this shirt, and Chris, I don't know what happened, but maybe

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there wasn't one for you, so you got a blue one instead.

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You could have a red one if you like.

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No, I didn't want one.

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Is that why we didn't order you one?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All right, I'll take the blue one back.

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Okay.

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I still have mine over here, and the year before.

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So you have the green one and then the red one?

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And the year before.

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Can't even have one.

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I already picked mine up because I came into the city earlier this week.

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She's in charge of athletes.

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That's all I have.

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I did just assume we're all riding on the city truck.

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Okay, I've been volunteered to drive the safe truck.

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Okay.

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I have more.

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That's crazy.

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That's crazy.

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Oh my gosh.

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I had to drive the safe truck.

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I was told I was nominated.

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You're like, yeah, blame Mark.

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I'm sorry.

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That was the one that volunteered.

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So we, I've invited the planning commission.

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So Kenan said he would get the word out.

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So we have a bunch of candy back here, I guess.

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I personally, I will be there walking along the pan grave of eight St. George.

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All right, there we go now Mark.

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You're new, huh?

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So on the mayor council and some staff and the planning commission right on the back of a city truck

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and throw candy.

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We're toward the front of the parade.

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Are you walking hard?

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I didn't have right.

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Yeah, you don't have to walk, can't if you want, but we have a ride for you. Then I won't come up with my excuse

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So Chris and Mark won't be here

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I'll be here, but I won't be riding with you guys

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I mean why were you in doing it

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So people can know who the heck you are.

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They don't show up to the meeting.

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Well, they know, trust me.

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Mark, given.

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Yes, on Tuesday, the Planning Commission

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passed the ADU ordinance.

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So a lot of work went into it, a lot of,

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I thought a lot of really good discussion back and forth.

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And I believe we'll be seeing it on September 5th, so there were a few items that you know do we want to have an 8,000 square foot minimum or an 11.

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We've gone back and forth, we settled on an 11,000 but they'll be doing some research just to see where it's at.

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So, anyway, that's, I guess that's the only possible adjustment we're looking at, but

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other than that I think we're pretty solid on it.

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I think it's a good document.

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What does the 8,000 versus 11,000 mean?

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Is that the lot size, is that the...

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Lot size.

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So, one idea is you can't do an external ADU or you can attach to ADU if you have a lot less

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than 11,000 square feet.

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What is?

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It's just what I'm a third of an acre say third of an acre

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So you need to have a third of an acre or more to have an 80 you

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Bob park. Yeah, okay, and

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8,000 is you know if you have an 8,000 square foot lot above you can have an

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ADU and so the argument is just the setback

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The setbacks will limit someone that has an 8,000 square foot lot from doing it. Are you factoring in parking too?

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I mean, they have to have extra parking.

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So there's a lot of factors and then one is just the economics.

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It's not cheap.

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And so I think not everyone's going to rush out and do it.

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Probably a select few in the city.

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Is it most of the city R1A?

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But with that, though, there are, there are, you know,

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third acre lots in R1A times in them.

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What's in R1A?

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That is a residential zone where the lots have to be 8,000 square feet and larger.

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Oh, gotcha.

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Do you have anything else, Mark?

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That's all.

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All right, candy.

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We had bike night yesterday and it was great.

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I classically ordered 100 cookies and we ran out of cookies and I had to come still cookies

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for tomorrow so that I could keep giving out cookies.

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so as far as I am aware this is our best attended bike night and I only saw

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Sheila just saying I had kin in the people I okay tomorrow we've got the

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patriotic night where Ross Peterson will be speaking super excited about that

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we're replacing that with movie night in the park and so we've got the patriotic

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cookies in here, those are not snacks, even though if you took one tonight

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every day. What's your time is it? Is it seven. You know you put this right on

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South workout days. I know I did, but you know what? I blame myself. But when I looked

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But at the calendar, the school calendar, because I was trying to do it the way before school

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started, I looked at the wrong calendar.

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I looked at the 2526 calendar instead of the 2627 calendar, and that's why I think we ended

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up on top of Sauer crowd days.

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Last year was the same time, and then they moved it up a week earlier, yeah.

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But I think I'm not sure I think that they do their parade on Friday night, yeah, which is when process speaking, but I mean, I

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I don't know if it's the same crowd that's going to the parade that would be going well, they do they do the parade and then they have their whole

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town well it's the park they do their thing on Friday as well as all day

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Saturday that's a big commitment they have more things on Saturday but

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they have a bunch tomorrow night so maybe I can do both but yes I'm aware that

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we're on top of Sourcrow days but hopefully so I get assume Ross is just at the

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Yes, if the stage is there, he'll be on the stage.

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Okay, seven and you said right?

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Yes, so, um, and, you know, Diane Weiss has been telling people about it and guys know

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Diane, like I know Diane, that means there's gonna be a lot of people there because she has

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a better evil eye than I do, getting people to play.

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She's also so good to listen to.

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Yeah, he alone is a crowd pleaser, so I'm super excited about that.

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And then, of course, Apple days on Saturday, so.

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And I saw your email.

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I will contact them and let them know,

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because I was already planning on having

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the youth ambassadors at that, so.

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Yeah, so maybe you could just give the council

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an update on what that whole thing is,

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that's kind of valley-wide, the day of service.

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Well, I talked about it when I asked for ideas for it.

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Oh, that's right.

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Last meeting, yeah.

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So they've just asked for youth councils to get involved,

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also. We already are. Yeah. I just suckers. I'm ahead of the curve. Right. One time. Just one time. Okay.

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Anything else? Nope. Nothing.

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Nothing important. Okay. So just a couple things to report on.

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The fire district thing is progressing. I don't really have anything new to report. Craig and I have

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been attending meetings on County Road 238.

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I think you're aware that the county would like to have

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the respective cities, which are Nibbly Millville,

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Providence and River Heights, take that road over.

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But we're meeting as the four cities to kind of get

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on the same page, and then we'll kind of

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unitesedly approach the county about what we'd like to see.

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We're trying, I think we're trying to be reasonable.

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they'll probably push back but anyway so that's in the works and then just the

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last thing at the last meeting there was a citizen and I don't remember a name

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right now that wanted to talk about a unleashed unfants dog park I think she

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even suggested over here on the same lady that wanted the three dogs and no

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kind of like that. And that has an extra unit that's not legal. Yeah. So anyway, she wanted

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to get on the agenda. I'm just telling you that after, I don't know if you remember,

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this came up in a public comment in back in June. And I emailed our attorney, John Jenkins,

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and asked him what the liability was. I think my, the direction you gave me was we check

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with the attorney see what our liability would be if somebody got bit in that kind of a situation.

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So John responded I believe I read his response in subsequent council meetings. So I just

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emailed her and told her I'm not inclined to put it on the agenda because we already addressed

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this and here's what the city attorney sent and I attached his response. So I said if you want to talk

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about an enclosed dog park, you know I'm happy to put that on a future agenda but I don't

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see the need to put it on. An unleashed, unfanced one we've already discussed with the city

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engineer, right?

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This is called dog march.

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Right. So anyway she acknowledged that she got it and I think her words were, I give up.

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or to Logan, she already admitted she drives less than a mile to the dog part and so

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over there.

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I used to live next to Jen's Johansson Park, it's not that far away.

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Okay, anyway, so yeah, I just let you know, I don't know, I don't know if it'll come up

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again, but if it does, I'm not inclined to put it on the agenda based on our attorney's

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opinion, so that's all I have.

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Oh, not much. I was just in between text between Mark and David to now the tree is here for this is going to replace and find tree over by Ryan's Park.

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And then they talked about putting a tree over here where the old birch tree was.

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Or the old one.

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Birch tree?

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Oh, yeah, big white birch tree that's slowly died over the years was a beautiful tree but replacing that and sort of documenting that for Apple.

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not in the affidavit, but for our tree city application.

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So, I'm not sure when that'll happen.

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Nobody are talking about sometime September, I believe.

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Could we do that as part of September 11th?

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Are you talking about planting the tree?

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More for tree city, I didn't think about September 11th.

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The day of servicing.

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Well, you could probably have a good idea.

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You could probably do it from both.

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Yeah?

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I know that the tree city thing we have to have so many trees and stuff right but is

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A community event, and so that would be the community event. It's planting a tree. Gotcha?

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You invite people to take pictures, sing it in. David would disagree with that, but as part of the tree planting, he could also give a little message on proper tree care. He'd probably love to do that. So, what's incorrect about that, Mark? Nothing. Oh, he said that.

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to know could probably talk about property.

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Yeah, like come help plant a tree and also learn about trees as well.

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Yeah, we did that before it, but Stuart Hill Park was good.

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Yeah, that's other than that.

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A lot of people are using the new park, so that's good to see.

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And I see groups up there.

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A lot of people walking through.

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It's looking good.

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I don't know if the council is aware of it.

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The tree that we had to take down on here, which is when you're talking about right.

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You know everybody rides a place right disease was replaced with two trees that an anonymous donor paid for

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Which should be whatever they obviously don't want me to tell you who it is

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Depends how big it is.

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I'll make it

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Anyway, okay

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As I mentioned last time, Clayton and I met with Craig and one of the water-eat-study.

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I now have the full study and start looking at that.

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That's all I have on my plate.

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Great.

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Michelle?

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Yes.

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I am frantically putting invoices in.

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I've probably got about two-third of them in.

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So if you'll be diligent in getting those approved because I'm already behind for being gone

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so long.

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So just making sure we can get people paid and they're not mad at us.

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That would be awesome.

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There are a couple for Apple Day specifically. I have one more I entered when I got here.

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There's a band that if you can improve them, but can improve it and then she can.

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I know I'll get those cut tonight. It's possible. So Sheila has those for the weekend.

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And then with all that being said, we are so close to putting pencils down physically.

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You're 26. So if anybody has anything outstanding, any expenses,

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any anything that you need paid from June 34, I would want that now. So, you can just get

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it paid and get all of our stuff sent off to the otter. So, that's all I have.

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Okay, Clayton.

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I just want to thank Mark for helping get the trees planted this morning.

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They were big. They were big and they were big. You talked about the anonymous donor trees?

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Yes, they're in the ground out of this morning.

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They look really nice, but yeah, thanks Mark.

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Are they here at this park or are they up at the other one?

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There it is.

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Cool.

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We couldn't have done it without him.

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There's still a little bit of a mess over there.

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We weren't able to get it all cleaned up

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before the rain hit.

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Pretty heavy.

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And so we got a little bit of a cleanup

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to still do over there.

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Not sure it will get done before Apple Day.

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they're not but it does look nice over there and then we're supposed to do fog

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seal yesterday but it was canceled because of rain so now we're looking at

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Monday to finish the fog seal on the on the roads that we chimmed sealed.

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Thank you. All right we'll move on to public comment. Anyone would like to comment

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come to the podium.

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Well, when we move on to the public hearing

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to receive public comment for the city proceeding

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with COG funding application for street improvements

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on six south.

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So this is the same project that we submitted last year.

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It's approximately from 770 east to 10th east,

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so that's just east of the school and out to 10th east.

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We didn't get any funding last year, so we're, excuse me, we're applying again.

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The road classification has changed, so now we can apply for more funding last year.

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We could only hit a max, spot improvement max of 400,000, so we'll do more this year,

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but Craig will talk about that.

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So before we open it up for the public hearing, I'll let Craig go through the presentation.

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I think you're prepared to do the same presentation we'll give to the COG, is that right?

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Let me just make before you start one other comment.

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So during the meeting these are COG requirements that we have to meet.

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So during the public hearing we have to discuss the general concept of the project,

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the estimated cost of the project and the financial responsibility of the jurisdiction

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if the project is funded so it probably will be addressing all of us.

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Thank you mayor.

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It was a pleasure to be here and congratulate your planning commission on approving or passing

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for recommendation of the council a detached PUD or accessory dwelling you know ordinance.

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We've been going through those discussions, and that one's a hard one to try to corral.

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You start looking at setbacks and heights and parking and lot sizes and privacy issues.

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And it's like, you know, just it's all over the place.

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So, congratulations on that one.

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So, again, as Mayor said, this is substantially the same project as we had submitted last year

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with a couple of minor changes and to the point where it's like I either look

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up or I look down. But the changes are at the easterly end of the project at

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10th East. So one of the requirements is like Wright City is doing tonight is

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to have a public hearing and last year did not have a public hearing at the

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county level and whereas 10th east of the county road that section could not be

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included we debated whether or not the city should do that work anyway because

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it is a county road county wasn't interested in participating we're doing it

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themselves and we're talking primarily addressing or fixing the the curb

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return on the south side of that intersection that was put in as part of the

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development and providence that curb return extends way out into the road and

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ties into the existing asphalt it would have been better to have put that in

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to match what the future road of six south the future width of that road would

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have been even if we weren't doing or proposing to do this project at this time

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and look for funding for it, but nonetheless,

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so that has to be addressed, replace that curb and gutter,

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push it to the south a little bit, adjust a drainage box

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and then match up the asphalt.

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The other important part of that extension work

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is those electrical and communications utilities

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that were strategically placed right out

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where the middle of the road would be.

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So up on the screen is the project area.

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I think everybody is probably familiar with the section of road we're looking at there

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just to the east of the school.

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One of the things that the Councilor government requires is the purpose and need statement.

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This address is kind of why do you want to do this project?

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And right now, you know, the project intent would be to widen the pavement width at 32

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feet with curb gutter, a park strip sidewalk and a landscape buffer. The south side would

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have a nice looking park strip and some a wide enough buffer that could be

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vegetated with a nice landscaping trees and make a sort of a parkway. Something

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that would look pretty nice there.

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The existing asphalt pavement that is out there

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the north side of that was widened through development work but in multiple phases so there is some

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section of pavement and then there's another section of pavement and there's a patch or a

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joint between those two and then there's a joint longitudinal paralleling with the link of the road

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where the original asphalt is and the widening starts and so the plan includes

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road milling, removing the existing pavement, verifying road base material below the road.

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We know that the north side where it was widened has the proper structural section with

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granular borrow, pit run, road base, and then pavement around the old or original part

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of the road.

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We don't know what that roadway section looks like all the way along there and so this

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would remove the asphalt, verify that base material and either replace or maintain depending

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on what's found.

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Historically in other projects we find that that base material is lacking, it's not consistent

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in depth and usually not the type of material that if we're going to put a new road on top

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of it you want to leave there so we're expecting in the quantities and costs to remove the excavate

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the sub base material over the older original part which is now kind of the center to south section

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that's out there now and then again on the widening on the south side which varies in width from about

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about eight to 12 feet of additional pavement on the south side. That would also be excavated

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out and then a full pavement section, meaning pit run, road base, and asphalt would be placed

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and then a uniform pavement section to repave the whole section of the road so you don't

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of the Safe Consistent Ruggway that serves vehicles and pedestrians through River Heights City

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jurisdiction. Another improvement is the sidewalk on the south side. We had a public hearing

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at the county and actually was very nice, Brent Speth.

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As previously was a school bus driver,

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it stood up to speak in favor of the project and said as a school bus driver, he says I drove

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of that road all the time and observed

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the, you know, how the children behave.

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And, you know, there's a sidewalk on the north side,

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but, you know, children don't want to,

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well, it's unsafe also to cross the road on the north

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and then have to cross, walk on the north side side,

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walk and then cross again back to the south side

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or whatever in the schools on the south side.

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So kids would, just walk on the south side

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and, you know, there's weeds and it's uneven

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and all these different things others.

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So they're walking right along the edge of the road and it's a very narrow road anyway.

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And so he commented at the county public hearing that, you know, he's very in favor of this because of the safety of the children.

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And so adding the sidewalk on the south will be great improvement.

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And we also already talked about the intersection improvements.

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This also, as part of the need is it gets a lot of traffic.

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There's, you know, a lot of school traffic.

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there's a commuter traffic both from from Logan and from from Providence that come through

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intercommunity. This smaller section of road functions very much like county road 238 you know where

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it passes between multiple communities and it's connecting those. This is also kind of a connector

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between Providence River Heights connects into County Road 238 and so it serves much the

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same purposes as you know with the Council of Governments they talk about regional connectivity

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and you know this maybe doesn't quite qualify by their technical definition as regional

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connectivity, but it certainly is inter-community connectivity.

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And again, the last item there is, we talked about River Heights Elementary and the proximity

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to pedestrian vehicle traffic there.

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So this is kind of the basis of, there is a valid need for the project, and I think with including

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the intersection improvements attendees that will rate higher than it did last year without

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those improvements included. So I think just from a standpoint of even though, you know,

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it kind of rubs your further on way thinking why are we taking care of a county or providence

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city situation that, you know, we didn't have any approval or review authority when those

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things were put in, but, you know, should we have to mitigate that or fix it now, but

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from the context of acquiring the funding for the overall project, I think that that

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will elevate the opportunity to be funded. So that, you know, itself has some merit to

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that.

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The next slide goes into the project scope, which we've addressed similarly with

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the description of the purpose and need, and just the overall descriptions of that.

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In addition to what we've already talked about, this just addresses the landscape restoration

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and opportunity for additional trees and things on that south side of the road. The road itself

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is not centered in the right of way and so there's a much narrower part strip on

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the north side from what we have here and then you know right behind the side

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Walk is the north property line. On the south side, we'll have a wider park strip. We'll get to the cross section in a future slide here in a landscaping area there. Any questions? Things so far? Or we continue? So in the annex for that project, the generic ones. Did they annex to the edge of the existing world?

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That's an excellent question, Steve, and certainly has bearing in this whole project.

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So the prior, one of the reasons why this back up maybe just to step, one of the reasons

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why this only qualified as a spot improvement project, as far as for funding purposes, is

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is because it wasn't classified as a connector road

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on the Council of Governments basically

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have a transportation plan that has all

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of the different potential projects in it.

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And it has to be on a classified collector, which

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requires a 66-foot ride-of-way.

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At that point, because the annexation and providence

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had happened, and with that they had dedicated additional ride

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way to River Heights City when they established their boundaries. So, you know,

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Providence did require them or could or the developers did require, did make sure

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that we had a 66-foot wide road corridor.

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But the original property on, so the

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original property on was narrower than 66 feet if you want to look at just the

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road corridor they dedicated about 16 feet I think 16 and a half feet

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possibly to get the 66-foot wide the developer the developer did yes but then

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the annexation boundary is classified as the south right of way line and so the

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whole street is in River Heights City's jurisdiction there's kind of two

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overall philosophies among different communities on you know where did

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that city boundary line where should it be some communities will agree that

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we should just put that boundary down the middle of the street well then you

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have Providence City maintaining you know in this example one half and River Heights

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maintaining the other half and and when you go for projects like a chip seal

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in a fog seal or something with that, how do you work that out? Who manages no

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plowing does one city do it and then the other city pays them or do you just

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trade work and so down the middle of the road it's kind of has maintenance

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and operations issues and if you take this approach where the boundary line is on

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one or the other right of way lines then you know that cleans some things up but

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it has other complications leading to situations like this and this, this is not the only place

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that this has happened. It's, you know, in just example, in last year's applications

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for funding, there were two or three similar situations. I know, one up in Smithfield and

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Hyde Park, I believe, on their boundary line, there's one in Logan and North Logan, I think,

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as well. And so it's not an uncommon situation. The reason the street hasn't been improved

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as well. There's a couple of things. But if it's outside of your jurisdiction by state

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code, Providence City can't legally require the developer to put improvements in River

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Heights City.

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Anyway, so there's been a history of different things happening. There was

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some negotiation and then slip things kind of fell apart and the improvements didn't

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didn't get constructed and there's no way for River Heights City to force it to

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happen.

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Please just right away now is it's River Heights City right away or it's not County

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right away?

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The 600 South is River Heights City, yeah just the basically the intersection right

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out 10th East when you goes out into the county there from basically the

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corner of the properties you know River Heights City goes to the East property

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line those properties on the corner and then it goes out into the county right

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away. I have a question about the side of the road so we as River Heights City

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would own up to we don't let's park strip and the sidewalk yeah yeah but

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then everything on that side is the is Providence City and the developer so

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So it's going to be pretty good.

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This will be the lowest range there and over here.

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So this will be the right close-up of the query.

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But in the north right-of-way line here, and then this is the homes

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and river heights around this side.

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And then this would be the south right-of-way line.

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And the homes on this side of that line would be in problem of city.

463
00:35:33,090 --> 00:35:36,090
But this line right here, the south right-of-way line,

464
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:40,690
is the River Heights to the Providence City in this whole boundary.

465
00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:47,110
So everything from here north is in River Heights including the whole world.

466
00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:53,270
And everything from here is individual lots, which are part of Providence City.

467
00:35:55,980 --> 00:36:01,180
So we're in charge of, like you said, the landscaping and the maintenance, I would assume, of that.

468
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:03,480
Like mowing the grass and things like that.

469
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,700
There's 6 bookmarks.

470
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,320
Yeah, 6 bookmarks.

471
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,620
4th of like half, and a 8th half.

472
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:15,280
That's why we're visiting the improved measure proposed at the moment.

473
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,660
Uh, again, most of this was developed a year ago.

474
00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:24,100
Plus, uh, preparing for what this was looked like, uh,

475
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,500
and the road has shifted over here to the north.

476
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,660
Uh, the big difference is here, and we've got 5, 5 and a half,

477
00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:34,720
but it varies a little bit on the north side of the way to the far-through.

478
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,740
We're here on the south side, it will be six feet,

479
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,560
but then here's when they get there, it's an eight and a half foot landscape area.

480
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:49,160
There is sufficiently wide to the plants and the nice trees in there,

481
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:54,460
versus here a five and a half feet eventually they outgrow that,

482
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
and so on, this type of upgiss is over time.

483
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:04,220
Any questions on those items or discussion?

484
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:19,230
The project funding, let's go to, this is actually kind of a good way to, this is a good

485
00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:20,030
thing to talk about.

486
00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:26,510
As the mayor mentioned last year, with just a spot improvement, the COG application

487
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:29,870
was limited to $400,000 asking.

488
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:35,030
Now, with the reclassification, the city went through the efforts

489
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:40,470
to ensure that this was a classified listed project

490
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:42,470
with the CMPO.

491
00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:46,950
And so therefore, eligible for corridor funding,

492
00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:49,470
not just a spot improvement funding.

493
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:52,010
And so the overall cost of the project

494
00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:54,690
is really is almost identical to what

495
00:37:54,690 --> 00:38:07,370
we had projected last year and the construction amount is about 645,000 and you see the design

496
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:18,860
construction engineering, survey fees, contingency, 10% contingency or unknown conditions, things

497
00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:25,100
up that way. This time you can look at that and see that so you add all of that together

498
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:32,240
you have about a $782,000 project which is within about $10,000 of where we were last

499
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:43,580
year for this. But in this situation it's eligible for cog funding up to $720,000. So almost

500
00:38:43,580 --> 00:39:02,460
You know, it's not quite double as far as the funding eligibility and the River River Heights City's match is, you know, 58,000 verses, you know, 350,000 that we would have had to put towards it if it were funded and then constructed in the previous cycle.

501
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:08,280
So, you know, if it had been funded, the city would then still have an opportunity.

502
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:15,960
the last year to accept or not to accept and move forward with that or not move forward

503
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,060
with the details as well. We don't have $300,000 to put towards it. Again, this is a more

504
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:29,820
significant asking. I think that there's with the 10th-east intersection changes, there

505
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:36,320
is more of an impetus to say, yeah, we can maybe look at that a little bit more favorably.

506
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:46,420
So the comments previously were we don't want to just leave something hanging at the at the end of that still would have to be addressed in the future.

507
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:55,490
So why were we denied the public funding last year? Was that part of the 10th East?

508
00:39:57,130 --> 00:40:06,610
That was, I don't know that's why it was denied. I would say that's, it has impact on what the actual ranking

509
00:40:06,610 --> 00:40:17,810
was the process of selection, so the cog is basically made up the committee that actually

510
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:24,170
recommends these projects for a word of funding to the county council and the county council

511
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:33,830
will vote and they can either accept the recommendations, which mostly they do, but prior to the cog

512
00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:39,530
committee which is composed of all of the mayors of the communities in the

513
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:46,870
county. It goes to a technical review committee which is consists of an

514
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:54,190
outside consultant that evaluates traffic and safety and then the

515
00:40:54,190 --> 00:41:01,810
the COG staff and they go through and provide a technical rating

516
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:18,350
First on, you know, classifications from connectivity, you know, they they evaluate basically, you know, this information that we shared today as well as, you know, hold on their additional packet that is submitted with the full application.

517
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:31,550
and if you have an active transportation component, a bike path or 8 or 10 foot wide trail associated with it, you get additional points.

518
00:41:32,330 --> 00:41:39,510
If there's a trail that's actually separated or detached from your roadway, you get more points.

519
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:39,850
So,

520
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:47,630
it's an interesting process, if you want to study that.

521
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:52,590
It's hard to get some of those points when you're competing

522
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:57,790
about, you know, sometimes if you play the numbers game,

523
00:41:57,990 --> 00:42:02,650
the shell game, so you're like, okay, well I know if I add a designated

524
00:42:03,090 --> 00:42:06,550
bike path in here, it's going to make the asphalt, you know,

525
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:10,290
you could take that eight and a half foot landscape buffer and say we're

526
00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:16,350
going to put that into pavement and have a striped, you know, then you could

527
00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:21,010
take the the shoulders and say we're going to stripe a 10 foot bike lane on

528
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:26,010
there or have or have eight foot wide bike lanes on each side of the road and

529
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:32,510
then you're going to get a couple extra points in that technical rating but

530
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:40,050
but then it's like, well, is it really justified to take and then add eight more feet of asphalt

531
00:42:40,050 --> 00:42:45,290
pavement into here that the city then has to maintain and take care of in the future

532
00:42:45,290 --> 00:42:52,470
and things just to get those points. Well, it may get your project funded. In the end,

533
00:42:52,490 --> 00:42:58,050
if it comes down to, they only have a certain amount of money, it can't fund all of the

534
00:42:58,050 --> 00:43:05,870
projects. And so if you think you're going to rate high enough that having an active transportation

535
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:13,530
component is one example, that's one that's kind of discussed a lot. You have to decide

536
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:18,230
is that worth it or not. And as you do that it increases your matching amount because you have

537
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:27,610
to match at a minimum of 8% match which is, you know, it's not, it's 8%, but it's not like the

538
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:32,130
45 or 50 percent that we were matching on last year's application

539
00:43:32,970 --> 00:43:34,230
So there's a lot of

540
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:39,290
You know just have to you know try to figure out how that works, but thank you

541
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:43,830
The short of it is all the mayor's vote and so you look at that and say well

542
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:47,790
I'll vote for your project this year and maybe next year you'll vote for mine or

543
00:43:49,490 --> 00:43:52,870
We're not we're not and so it's called collusion

544
00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:57,070
There's nothing that prohibits collusion in this practice

545
00:44:02,750 --> 00:44:05,450
I think that's starting to wear itself out.

546
00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:08,410
They're trying to get some things finished up,

547
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:11,370
but it's taken an awful lot of money over $40 million

548
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:16,970
in the last 10, 12, 15 years has gone towards

549
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:21,310
northern 200 east, 400 east corridors

550
00:44:21,310 --> 00:44:23,650
between Logan, the Smithfield, and things.

551
00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:27,410
And I think some of the mayors are

552
00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:33,490
starting to tire. I mean I'm not a voting member and I'm just going to read

553
00:44:33,490 --> 00:44:38,290
things in from discussions and conversations and you know throughout

554
00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:43,390
Mayors in the county. So I think this is a good time just as a summary I think

555
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:50,030
this is a good time for River Heights to move this project forward. We'll certainly

556
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:55,190
make the argument also that you know River Heights has never received

557
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:59,830
Cog funding on any previous projects over the decades because

558
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:30,110
They've never had a roadway that is classified as a functional collector. And so just because of the right-of-way widths and county road 238, if the city wanted to push a project forward on 238, that would be one that the city could. But we've always going to have the river heights is going to take in the position that that's a county road. The county should

559
00:45:30,110 --> 00:45:34,690
to take the role or the lead in maintaining that road.

560
00:45:35,710 --> 00:45:39,610
And I think that it's kind of, as we've been meeting

561
00:45:39,610 --> 00:45:42,730
with other communities, it's just counties

562
00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:44,470
not interested in that.

563
00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:47,410
And so hopefully we can see some changes

564
00:45:47,410 --> 00:45:48,490
in that moving forward.

565
00:45:49,090 --> 00:45:54,910
So just the next couple slides are a little bit

566
00:45:54,910 --> 00:45:58,550
outdated photographs, photos from last year.

567
00:45:58,550 --> 00:46:02,210
and it was kind of a rainy day.

568
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:04,770
I was gonna try to go out and get updated pictures this year,

569
00:46:04,770 --> 00:46:06,530
but it wasn't quite the best photo day.

570
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:09,770
So I'll see what tomorrow morning shakes loose

571
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:12,190
and see if I can pick up a couple nicer pictures

572
00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:16,110
to include in here for the application to the county

573
00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:17,270
that are more representative

574
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:19,490
of the current conditions there.

575
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:24,530
I have another quick question about the funding.

576
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:33,170
So is this like wraps where we have a certain amount of time that I'll let go into of time before we don't if we don't use that money we lose it?

577
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:37,910
It is designated for a period of like two years.

578
00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:47,350
You can when you fill out the application, there's a spot on there to request additional years to spend it.

579
00:46:49,070 --> 00:46:54,450
And so, and it's similar to wraps where, you know, if you're in unforeseen conditions

580
00:46:54,450 --> 00:47:03,370
or things come up, you can talk to the COG Council of Governments, basically is, again,

581
00:47:03,630 --> 00:47:11,390
it's basically the mayors of each community, but county staff who also works for CMPO, which

582
00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:13,010
there's another county transportation

583
00:47:13,010 --> 00:47:15,270
that's actually not county.

584
00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:18,310
It's employees are county employees,

585
00:47:18,610 --> 00:47:23,530
but it's the metropolitan planning organization

586
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:26,770
that's basically they share employees

587
00:47:26,770 --> 00:47:32,050
with a cash county, CMPO and COG do this work.

588
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:34,330
And so you can apply for an extension

589
00:47:34,830 --> 00:47:36,710
and they have an executive committee

590
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:46,830
that would, you know, review that request and if you have good reasons, they would be willing

591
00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:53,850
to extend the funding, the use of that funding. But when you apply for it, you can say, like this,

592
00:47:53,970 --> 00:48:04,830
this funding primarily would be available in 2028. So the way that they look at that is if you

593
00:48:04,830 --> 00:48:09,450
have like right-of-way things you need to pick up or clean up or complete the drawings

594
00:48:09,450 --> 00:48:15,490
and things put it into your budget to actually get the match and things in place. It would

595
00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:23,290
give you a couple of years to include that. So this would be again available for construction

596
00:48:23,290 --> 00:48:32,210
typically summer of 2028. There's an option if the COG funding is available and if you're

597
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:37,430
prepared and have the plans and you're matching funding in place that some projects could

598
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:45,450
be constructed in next summer 2027. And if you wanted to, when you fill out the application

599
00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:52,230
to push it back to 2029, that's an option. So, in the application right now, we have,

600
00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:58,290
at this point, not included a request to delay or push that back. And so it would default

601
00:48:58,290 --> 00:49:02,810
to the 2028 year for construction.

602
00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:04,470
I was just curious.

603
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:05,050
Great question.

604
00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:05,850
That was a good question.

605
00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:10,550
Is one of those like nobody ever likes to have road construction but if it was during

606
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:15,210
the school year, like every parent driving that road would want to die?

607
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:20,030
Yeah, this would definitely look at trying to do this as a summer project.

608
00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:26,050
That would be much better prices from the contractor as well, they didn't have to try to deal with

609
00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:29,850
all those issues, and then definitely would interrupt school at the point.

610
00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:39,170
Great. Can I ask you a question back on the funding page? So, I see the very right hand

611
00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:50,250
column is, are there a cog eligible cost? So, I see the subtotal at 64, 644,604, which lines

612
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:52,990
up with your construction cost up above, right?

613
00:49:54,730 --> 00:50:00,650
Yeah, and then you have a contingency of $68.2, which is down right above the total

614
00:50:00,650 --> 00:50:07,030
project cost. Is that that lower section, the administrative items? Are those not COG?

615
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:16,430
So I'm glad you brought that up. I intended to address that, so thank you, Mayor. So this

616
00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:23,410
year, the COG rules have changed a little bit. Most things are funded, are now

617
00:50:23,410 --> 00:50:30,790
COG eligible. For example, this is kind of a template spreadsheet that's

618
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:36,630
used. If you have work in your right-of-way, if your roadway project, like if

619
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:40,810
you're tearing the road up and you think, well, while we've got this torn up, the

620
00:50:40,810 --> 00:50:46,010
city really would like to replace the waterline, for example, or fix some

621
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:50,490
sewer manholes or something or replace an irrigation

622
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:53,690
coal or whatever that's going underneath the road.

623
00:50:54,350 --> 00:50:58,530
Those are considered not eligible for COG funding

624
00:50:59,230 --> 00:51:03,510
just because of, you know, it's, well, COG's not going to pay.

625
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:06,490
They're interested in transportation, not covering

626
00:51:06,490 --> 00:51:07,290
your water lines.

627
00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:12,150
And so there is kind of a wiggle room on that.

628
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:17,410
That doesn't really apply here, but if a community is saying, well, we're doing this road

629
00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:23,450
and we know that in the future there's going to be some roads connecting into it, like,

630
00:51:23,650 --> 00:51:30,210
you know, going perpendicular to the main corridor, then COG would fund putting utility

631
00:51:30,210 --> 00:51:35,990
stub outs for those future roads just so that nobody likes to dig into a new road.

632
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:36,590
and so.

633
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:39,650
Is there anything there that you can historically remember that used to be updated?

634
00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:41,670
There's a new waterline there, correct?

635
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:45,650
The waterline is in good, I mean, it's not new anymore, it's been there for a while.

636
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:46,470
20 years probably.

637
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:47,370
20 years or so.

638
00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:47,670
Yeah.

639
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:48,170
But it's still new.

640
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:50,550
But it's still new, relatively speaking.

641
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:53,330
So there really aren't any utility improvements there.

642
00:51:54,010 --> 00:52:01,610
The one item one here that is that's partially not collegeable is landscaping.

643
00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:09,530
They have a definition for landscaping and landscape restoration directly associated

644
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:11,910
with the road.

645
00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:18,310
And so in looking at their definitions, we looked at that and says, you know, I don't think

646
00:52:18,310 --> 00:52:25,210
that just by the way this cross section works, if you're trying to make nice looking landscaping

647
00:52:25,210 --> 00:52:33,970
is more of a little bit higher intensity or number of trees that all of that landscaping

648
00:52:33,970 --> 00:52:37,750
is not likely going to be covered by the cog funding.

649
00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:45,430
So we did go in and split the landscaping cost and after here and about a tree is worth

650
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:46,670
now, a $600 tree.

651
00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:50,130
I was like, well, maybe I didn't put enough in there for landscaping.

652
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:57,570
So that's the adjustment is basically everything's eligible except, you know, on this project

653
00:52:57,570 --> 00:53:04,230
part of the landscaping, which is different from last year, the rules that they were working

654
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:11,710
from, the sidewalk on the south side was not covered by COG funding, and basically all

655
00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:19,370
of the technical committee, which is kind of the engineers and the mayors had discussion

656
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:26,250
about that and said, this does not make any sense. If you have an active transportation like

657
00:53:26,250 --> 00:53:34,990
a bike lane or a concrete path that's at least, I think at least eight feet wide, Cog would

658
00:53:34,990 --> 00:53:41,110
cover it, which is, you know, but they won't cover, you know, if it's a shared youth path that's

659
00:53:41,110 --> 00:53:45,710
eight to ten to twelve feet wide, it's eligible for funding. But if you have a four foot sidewalk,

660
00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:53,770
it was not eligible. And so they did change that this year. So this year that you know the sidewalks

661
00:53:53,770 --> 00:54:00,590
is a significant component. And so that is eligible to be covered this year with the rules

662
00:54:00,590 --> 00:54:07,870
that they're using. So thanks for bringing up that item. Any other questions for Mark?

663
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:14,150
For Craig, I was looking at Mark once before we opened the public hand.

664
00:54:14,290 --> 00:54:24,370
One minor one on the intersection on 850 East and 6L that goes into the subdivision of

665
00:54:24,370 --> 00:54:25,110
the visionary.

666
00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:27,310
Yeah, we don't talk about that child.

667
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:32,490
I know, but I kind of go into the suit and we'll finish that, so we have to remove the concrete

668
00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:34,030
to barricade the bill, right?

669
00:54:34,270 --> 00:54:34,730
Like we wouldn't.

670
00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:37,770
Yeah, you know, I actually had a discussion

671
00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:41,770
with the mayor about that road or that connection.

672
00:54:44,050 --> 00:54:45,810
Everybody know what he's asking about,

673
00:54:45,810 --> 00:54:46,970
where he's talking about there.

674
00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:48,610
This is the road that would,

675
00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:50,470
if it went through, would connect

676
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:52,310
into the Providence development.

677
00:54:54,850 --> 00:54:58,150
You know, right now, you know,

678
00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:02,210
it's just, it's, again, that's a good question.

679
00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:04,970
whether or not you include that and say we're going to go ahead and connect

680
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:15,970
Providence in to that road. If the developer had helped to widen the road

681
00:55:15,970 --> 00:55:19,130
out, put the sidewalk in, then that would have been, you know, that was a whole

682
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:24,930
some of the discussions back then is access into River Heights. Without them

683
00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:30,810
participating, the position of the City Council at the time was well we're not

684
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:37,590
going to allow providence to then connect into this road if they're not bringing any skin

685
00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:40,550
to the game as far as you know improving it and things.

686
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:46,010
Well, we could assume that the structure would probably complete that but there would be a

687
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:48,590
chain gate there or something for a fire or a machine.

688
00:55:48,590 --> 00:55:53,630
Well, the way that the plans are right now which you know this is just a summary of the plans

689
00:55:53,630 --> 00:56:00,790
which I do I did send out the full construction you know the drawing sets to Sheila so

690
00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:04,930
So that was probably on your share drive if you want to look at it in detail, but those

691
00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:09,690
plans do just show curb and gutter running straight across that and not cutting that out

692
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:10,850
to make that connection.

693
00:56:16,730 --> 00:56:23,850
My question about that as an engineer is, as again, it's kind of that, you know, similar

694
00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:30,290
to the 10th East intersection, you know, that's a county responsibility, we're picking

695
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:38,170
that up. I do believe that will help improve the ranking of the project. Will it actually

696
00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:44,930
get it funded or not? I don't know. Similar question could be made with that road going

697
00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:56,850
south into Providence is from an overall transportation component. Is that going to be something

698
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:59,890
and the mayors and the technical committee would say,

699
00:57:00,050 --> 00:57:01,670
well, it really should connect.

700
00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:03,790
You know, we're going to rank it higher if it does

701
00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:07,170
or is it not going to make a difference or what.

702
00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:08,470
And so yeah.

703
00:57:08,770 --> 00:57:10,870
And this is where we're on the project.

704
00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:11,890
Do you talk about that?

705
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:12,910
There's talking on here.

706
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:13,550
That's right there.

707
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:15,210
Yep, see how the sidewalk curb and gutter?

708
00:57:15,550 --> 00:57:16,650
There's no asphalt there.

709
00:57:17,730 --> 00:57:20,890
So looking at this, this is the stuff that goes down in the UND.

710
00:57:43,890 --> 00:57:50,870
So, there's a road that's right there, there is a road there, there is a road there.

711
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:57,630
it's there and there's been barriers so the cars can't drive on it so let me

712
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:01,490
speak to that for just a minute so just so you're aware visionary was not

713
00:58:01,490 --> 00:58:08,410
going to put that road in that stubbed road they wanted to just those were all

714
00:58:08,410 --> 00:58:13,050
going to be lost there was going to be no access on to six south providence city

715
00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:17,230
forced them to put that stubbed road in because providence city wants the

716
00:58:17,230 --> 00:58:22,790
connectivity to River Heights and to Six South, which makes sense, right?

717
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:23,230
Yes.

718
00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:29,350
So, visionary is not willing to pay for any of the improvements on Six South so they put

719
00:58:29,350 --> 00:58:30,090
the barricades up.

720
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:34,650
They actually told me in Craig they were going to just fence it, even though the Providence

721
00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:38,070
City made them put the road in, they were just going to fence it.

722
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:43,850
They'd come down the backyards and I don't know why they didn't, that's what they told

723
00:58:43,850 --> 00:58:44,670
us that we're going to do.

724
00:58:44,670 --> 00:58:50,790
And so I think if we get funded and we can move forward with this, I would think that

725
00:58:50,790 --> 00:58:55,570
it might be appropriate for us to go to Providence and say, hey, would you, it makes a lot

726
00:58:55,570 --> 00:58:58,270
of sense just to connect it now while we're doing construction.

727
00:58:58,570 --> 00:58:58,870
Absolutely.

728
00:58:59,330 --> 00:59:00,810
Would you help us with the intersection?

729
00:59:01,310 --> 00:59:02,270
And I think they might.

730
00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:04,610
Because they're the ones that really wanted the run.

731
00:59:05,130 --> 00:59:05,310
Yeah.

732
00:59:05,490 --> 00:59:07,490
They're the ones that wanted the addition.

733
00:59:08,970 --> 00:59:10,830
So I think they probably would.

734
00:59:10,850 --> 00:59:12,110
I haven't talked to them about it.

735
00:59:12,110 --> 00:59:19,470
So the difference would be rather than the sidewalk and everything in running right past that would be creating the intersection.

736
00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:30,390
So do you think that the sidewalk actually comes and starts to curve a little anticipating the intersection?

737
00:59:36,430 --> 00:59:40,550
There are some increase in cost.

738
00:59:41,870 --> 00:59:47,860
The curve rate is the start and the sidewalk starts curving.

739
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,720
Because of the additional width of the landscape look here,

740
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:55,620
and that being farther out into the right of way,

741
00:59:58,020 --> 00:59:59,260
this isn't the right curve.

742
00:59:59,540 --> 00:59:59,960
You have to come.

743
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:12,540
All right, so the first part of the road off, straight that out, and then starting with an occurred farther out. So there'll be a little bit of agreement. Read, read, read, read, read, read where there would have to be. So maybe we could even.

744
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:25,700
Providence about the difference. Yeah, there would, there would be a little bit of offset because you know, right now we're having, you're showing curb and gutter going straight across that, and so you wouldn't have that there.

745
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,980
be a little bit more, a more length on the curb and gutter and things that way.

746
01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:43,340
And so, there's some reductions because you wouldn't be putting in sidewalk across there

747
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:49,780
but you'd be putting sidewalk on the curves, the returns coming out to connect in and

748
01:00:49,780 --> 01:00:50,020
instead.

749
01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:56,820
So Craig, if we do get approved for this, can we make that change after we've been approved

750
01:00:56,820 --> 01:01:01,740
if we go to Providence City and they're like we're willing to throw some money at it too to make

751
01:01:01,740 --> 01:01:06,440
this better. That would be okay to change that you know they would accept that.

752
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:09,520
We have to do

753
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,880
another public hearing and all that stuff to make that just check I mean it's fine. We love these

754
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,560
guys coming all the time. I'll stop talking you meant you can have the mic.

755
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,240
I don't have anything else

756
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,200
Thanks for sitting and listening.

757
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,240
I hope I hadn't just not too long when did it.

758
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,400
No, it's initial for you.

759
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,320
So any other questions for Craig?

760
01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:39,300
I have one that kind of deals with this same thing.

761
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,620
So on the match where it's $20, $28 money,

762
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,520
like, say, Providence was willing to,

763
01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:49,760
or they did want to tie this road in.

764
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:50,620
Yes.

765
01:01:52,180 --> 01:01:54,820
Would there be a possibility to run the sidewalk

766
01:01:54,820 --> 01:02:00,800
from the school and tie it into the subdivision for kids walking to school and

767
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:11,660
then count that money spent towards the the city's contribution or and so

768
01:02:11,660 --> 01:02:16,560
basically saying do that we've already sidewalked earlier to get the sidewalk

769
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:23,580
in a year and so yeah I mean you could I think you could do that because you

770
01:02:23,580 --> 01:02:29,060
have to use that money towards the project and the sidewalk is an eligible

771
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:35,560
component of that now. Is that a we pay up front get reimbursed or once we get

772
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:41,120
the award based into the check? It's a you pay and get reimbursed. It's like

773
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:47,040
graphs that way. That's a good that's a good question to you know.

774
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:53,560
It's a great

775
01:02:53,560 --> 01:03:01,460
me it makes a lot of sense. And storm water, storm water improvements previously were

776
01:03:01,460 --> 01:03:06,240
not included in college eligible was basically asphalt road.

777
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,820
Are there any south side besides curb and gutter? The most that stuff is already on the north.

778
01:03:10,060 --> 01:03:15,560
It's mostly on the north and so what we have is I think there's three catch basins on the south

779
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:22,220
side that are that coincide with boxes on the north side. So we're just tying into the

780
01:03:22,220 --> 01:03:25,480
storm rain system on the north side.

781
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360
What drives the west and picks up somewhere

782
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,300
under the elementary school in the south, right?

783
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,120
Yeah, it's cool.

784
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,360
Yes,

785
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:36,360
okay.

786
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,500
Just a schedule, just a couple of things on the schedule.

787
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:43,340
The application will be turned in tomorrow.

788
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,780
Then it goes to the technical review committee.

789
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:52,940
They kind of do all of their scoring and ranking that way.

790
01:03:52,940 --> 01:03:58,320
and then it's distributed out to, actually before it goes to the technical review committee,

791
01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:08,180
each applicant has an opportunity to basically present to the mayors, the COG association,

792
01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:16,780
and you know, plead their case more or less, talk about their project, and then it goes to

793
01:04:16,780 --> 01:04:23,960
the technical review committee and then once those results are back then I think I've got

794
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:31,560
that order right and then each of the mayors will have an opportunity to vote and I can ask

795
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:37,700
questions that vote and review that. They will ask questions at the and have some discussion

796
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:44,600
at the when the presentations are made. I assume there's more applications than there's money.

797
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:51,400
Yeah, I'm sorry, but absolutely yeah, it's usually about half. Well last year they had

798
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,120
a little bit more. Last year they had so many and this year I think we'll have 12.

799
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:03,220
Yeah, it's about 12 and that could be two projects, two projects that on the north end of

800
01:05:03,220 --> 01:05:10,600
the valley would pretty close to ask their asking's would be for most of the funding that's

801
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:15,600
available. So Craig are you our guy that goes and pitches it or does Lance do it since

802
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,720
he's over-roads or does the mayor do it? Well, I did last year. I don't know if I did

803
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,620
a very good job of it or not, but if you think something might, okay, put me get me a

804
01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:29,380
little bit better ranking. My feelings won't be heard. Talk to them more technical.

805
01:05:29,380 --> 01:05:33,460
You've got it. You've never want this to go through. I'm your guy.

806
01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:39,500
The three of us are sitting in the air.

807
01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:42,480
I'll stand behind and then hold a sign.

808
01:05:43,220 --> 01:05:44,360
Vote for Greg.

809
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,320
My thoughts last night were we need to recruit that counsel person from Providence that came to me.

810
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,740
She got right after it.

811
01:05:53,740 --> 01:05:54,480
She did a great job.

812
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:04,500
So, you know, there are two projects that were presented at the county public hearing Tuesday night that were over 5 million each.

813
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:07,480
So if those two get approved, that's all the money.

814
01:06:07,820 --> 01:06:09,380
That's a big chunk of it.

815
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:23,180
And then pretty much all of it because there is a certain percent that they call the rural set aside that is reserved for communities that are outside of the metropolitan planning area

816
01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:29,700
which are like your amalgas and Newton and men and communities that are farther removed

817
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:31,660
from the population corridor.

818
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:38,880
So after the application is turned into tomorrow, then it goes under the review, what is the

819
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,720
meaning, where the decisions made, where the money goes?

820
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:47,460
I don't remember that part of the schedule, I work on a need-to-know basis, as long as I don't

821
01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:49,240
miss a deadline, I don't need to know yet.

822
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:55,280
It's a different question, sorry, I think it's some, it's in October, yeah, the selections

823
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,740
are typically going to be on October.

824
01:06:57,340 --> 01:07:01,420
And we score them on our own, and then we have a deadline, we have to turn them all

825
01:07:01,420 --> 01:07:07,940
in and they compile the scores, but the good thing or bad thing to be done, I look at is

826
01:07:07,940 --> 01:07:14,480
you see exactly who scored whom how, but it's a transparent process.

827
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:21,440
I can see who voted for our project and who didn't or what what they do is they you your top-ranked

828
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:28,080
project would have 60 points for example and then your second rank will have 56 and then your next

829
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,660
one will have 52 so if somebody gives you four

830
01:07:32,380 --> 01:07:36,860
that you were last on their list. Providence better put us high.

831
01:07:36,860 --> 01:07:46,820
Well, just so you know they we have offered two letters of support for two of their three projects and they've offered a letter of support for this one.

832
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:57,640
Oh yes thank you so yeah so we even last year I was worried about funding because if we got the 400,000 I didn't know how we were going to come up with the balance.

833
01:07:58,340 --> 01:08:05,860
So I actually ring providence is higher than ours because I thought there was a worthy project and I was worried about how we fund it.

834
01:08:05,860 --> 01:08:10,180
Yeah sure it would have been hard to fund the last year and I was already number one on my list.

835
01:08:10,940 --> 01:08:11,420
Naturally.

836
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Now there's one item that I did want to mention or ask about.

837
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:23,940
Last year we did get a letter of support from the school, the principal, and I haven't reached out to the school yet.

838
01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:31,400
And so if somebody has a connection at the school, we could get a letter of support in favor of the project.

839
01:08:31,980 --> 01:08:36,840
We could turn that in similar to what we have a letter of support from Providence City.

840
01:08:37,060 --> 01:08:42,940
If you tell me what I need to say to her, I will, because I've already told her that this is, that we're doing this.

841
01:08:42,940 --> 01:08:53,140
I will give you, did we have one from last year and I will give you the one from last year and tell her we just need her to buff it up a little bit.

842
01:08:53,140 --> 01:08:57,160
And okay, because I know that she she's very invested in this

843
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,480
Okay, yeah, the deadlines tomorrow

844
01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:04,600
We have a letter last year. Didn't we get one last year?

845
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:13,620
I don't think we did I think it was the I don't remember out to school sidewalk projects that we got letters to support for

846
01:09:14,860 --> 01:09:22,260
It was the safe route. There's a sidewalk project if she would it would still help us anything. Yeah. Yeah, I will send some

847
01:09:23,140 --> 01:09:27,080
get that for you. Okay, because I'll I can email it to her if you give me the

848
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,140
information tonight I can email it to her tonight and she checks her emails

849
01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:33,760
first thing in the morning. I know because I emailed her last week and she called

850
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:39,080
me 15 minutes after I send the email. Okay, perfect. Thank you. I apologize that I

851
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:44,860
didn't I should have been more on top of it and than that earlier but get

852
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:50,780
there. Okay, thank you. Let's we'll open the public hearing to receive public

853
01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:56,320
comment for this funding application for street improvements for 600 South

854
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:03,500
between approximately 770 East, 770 East and 1,000 East. Is there anybody here

855
01:10:03,500 --> 01:10:06,680
that would like to comment? Just come to the podium and state your name.

856
01:10:08,860 --> 01:10:09,180
Craig

857
01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:14,960
Bailey. I think the projects needed in my estimation I think the county could be

858
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:21,320
liable if you could get her hit and I'd bring that up to her. Where the sidewalks

859
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:29,160
are on both sides, and I think that it may be helped their cause, or the River Heights

860
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,900
cause of it, making sure that we're covered.

861
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:38,620
I'd also say on this project on the landscape, I would really look at illuminating as much

862
01:10:38,620 --> 01:10:44,680
grass and maintenance as possible to help reduce freaks or costs on the River Heights.

863
01:10:45,580 --> 01:10:53,420
I just, and I don't know if that costs more initially or less, my mind says less, but

864
01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:59,100
over the long run, if you're not having to stop and push long hours around there, fix

865
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:00,540
furniture systems, that's something.

866
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,500
And that, and potentially that means it isn't very pretty and maybe not as fun to walk

867
01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:06,860
along.

868
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,740
There's some pretty zero scapes up there.

869
01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:09,040
Yeah.

870
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,940
It's just something to consider.

871
01:11:10,940 --> 01:11:13,600
make life easier on Clayton and his team.

872
01:11:13,820 --> 01:11:16,820
Unfortunately, grass is about the easiest thing to maintain.

873
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:17,620
Is it?

874
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,040
Zero skates great for the first year and then after that,

875
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,580
that's as much maintenance as grass.

876
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,220
Tell the weeks come up.

877
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:25,720
What's going on here?

878
01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:28,020
I'm just a thought.

879
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:38,660
The other thing I would say, I think we got shafted on this whole area

880
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:43,320
and gotten incorporated. I say secure borders until Providence City is

881
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:49,260
stuff it. And we do not want to come over to our street. And I would guess that

882
01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:53,680
had reduced our traffic on that street, just the pot.

883
01:11:55,020 --> 01:12:00,000
Well, my suggestion was to make a list of this came up last year.

884
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:04,320
Could you do the intersection? Well, let's just put a couple of

885
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:15,580
And that's probably not the right thing to say, but I'd not guess people that live along

886
01:12:15,580 --> 01:12:21,020
that street would rather have less traffic and I think you're going to get more there.

887
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,000
So thank you.

888
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:22,900
Thank you.

889
01:12:23,780 --> 01:12:24,560
Anyone else?

890
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,080
All right.

891
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:29,340
We'll close the public hearing.

892
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,460
And I think that's it.

893
01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:35,960
but I think we just have a motion to adjourn.

894
01:12:36,260 --> 01:12:37,820
Correct, thanks for putting that all together.

895
01:12:37,940 --> 01:12:38,080
Yeah.

896
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:39,740
Yeah, a good little nodding.

897
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:40,400
Thank you.

898
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,720
Thank you.

899
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:42,340
Thank you.

900
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,600
If the budget being introduced, all right,

901
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,660
I was ready to announce it.

902
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:45,980
It's all a good budget.

903
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,900
I mean, they're going to put them up with my inconsistencies

904
01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:53,240
and the waitances of the event.

905
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,000
So I have enjoyed your rights.

906
01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:57,560
And I'm not working on this community.

907
01:12:57,980 --> 01:12:59,360
If you're talking about Apple days,

908
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,340
I need to remember this.

909
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:11,320
You know, the years ago, you know, I'm just a little sergeant in here, and we have an opportunity to help sponsor that or logo on your feature.

910
01:13:11,540 --> 01:13:13,100
It's kind of worth that feature that they have.

911
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,740
I was telling you, we've hired an assistant within string.

912
01:13:17,660 --> 01:13:19,300
It's like this was getting comfortable.

913
01:13:20,140 --> 01:13:20,420
Right?

914
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,920
What do you have in this great decision?

915
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:26,000
Thank you.

916
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,340
I like how you do it.

917
01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:30,920
It's a great weather. It's not like the middle of the night.

918
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:31,580
July.

919
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:34,360
Until I pour it.

920
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:35,760
Until I pour it over.

921
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:38,060
Can I get a motion to adjourn?

922
01:13:38,420 --> 01:13:39,280
I'll make that motion.

923
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:40,520
I'll second it.

924
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:41,800
Great. Motion to second.

925
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,080
You bet. All in favor?

926
01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:43,480
Yes.

927
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:44,040
Yes.