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[0:00] We on the 6th, 3rd, I heard talking down there like, she's probably going to conversation. Okay.
[0:13] Well, welcome to the Urban High City Council meeting. Today is August 13th, Thursday, out of 13th. We welcome Michelle Denson back in town.
[0:26] Thank you.
[0:28] Present are myself Mayor Blake Wright.
[0:31] Recorder Sheila Lind, Councilmember Mark Maulstrom,
[0:34] Lance Pitcher, Steve Roberts, Chris Millbank.
[0:37] Expect the candy ovens eventually.
[0:40] Terzior Michelle Jensen, Public Works Director Clayton
[0:43] Nelson, and we also have our city engineer, Craig Rasmussen
[0:45] with this.
[0:47] Appreciate you all being here.
[0:48] If you'd like, let's stand and say the point
[0:51] we'll be doing together.
[0:53] All right, well as your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
[1:02] One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[1:11] Thank you.
[1:17] Next on the agenda is to adopt our previous meeting minutes and tonight's agenda.
[1:23] I
[1:26] have any comments about the minutes.
[1:30] I'll let a few people.
[1:31] Yeah, I just made one comment, and
[1:36] one was attributed
[1:38] to me, and that was actually candy
[1:39] about the accessory dwelling unit answers.
[1:46] That's all I have.
[1:47] OK, I made that one.
[1:49] And then I actually made changes that you guys didn't catch.
[1:53] I included council member Matthews in all of the motions.
[1:57] and so I took her to know you had an extra council member voting, so you have council member
[2:07] Roberts.
[2:07] Right.
[2:08] He had Stephen there, but I'm out of use, so I made those changes.
[2:15] Any other changes?
[2:17] All right.
[2:18] I'll accept a motion tonight's agenda in minutes.
[2:22] I'll make a motion to approve the previous minutes of August 4th, 2026, and tonight's agenda
[2:29] 8th of August 13th, 2026.
[2:31] I'll second the motion.
[2:33] Motion in a second. Any further discussion? All in favor?
[2:38] Yes. Yes.
[2:40] Thank you.
[2:43] Since we don't plan to have a meeting next Tuesday on the 18th, she and I thought now would be
[2:48] a good time to just catch up on council member reports, staff reports, so we'll go down the
[2:56] road, she would do anything.
[2:59] No, just, here's your Apple this shirt, and Chris, I don't know what happened, but maybe
[3:06] there wasn't one for you, so you got a blue one instead.
[3:09] You could have a red one if you like.
[3:11] No, I didn't want one.
[3:12] Is that why we didn't order you one?
[3:15] Yeah.
[3:16] Okay.
[3:18] All right.
[3:18] All right, I'll take the blue one back.
[3:21] Okay.
[3:22] I still have mine over here, and the year before.
[3:25] So you have the green one and then the red one?
[3:27] And the year before.
[3:28] Can't even have one.
[3:30] I already picked mine up because I came into the city earlier this week.
[3:35] She's in charge of athletes.
[3:39] That's all I have.
[3:41] I did just assume we're all riding on the city truck.
[3:49] Okay, I've been volunteered to drive the safe truck.
[3:51] Okay.
[3:52] I have more.
[3:54] That's crazy.
[3:55] That's crazy.
[3:56] Oh my gosh.
[3:57] I had to drive the safe truck.
[3:59] I was told I was nominated.
[4:00] You're like, yeah, blame Mark.
[4:01] I'm sorry.
[4:02] That was the one that volunteered.
[4:06] So we, I've invited the planning commission.
[4:12] So Kenan said he would get the word out.
[4:16] So we have a bunch of candy back here, I guess.
[4:20] I personally, I will be there walking along the pan grave of eight St. George.
[4:24] All right, there we go now Mark.
[4:27] You're new, huh?
[4:29] So on the mayor council and some staff and the planning commission right on the back of a city truck
[4:38] and throw candy.
[4:39] We're toward the front of the parade.
[4:40] Are you walking hard?
[4:42] I didn't have right.
[4:43] Yeah, you don't have to walk, can't if you want, but we have a ride for you. Then I won't come up with my excuse
[4:55] So Chris and Mark won't be here
[5:01] I'll be here, but I won't be riding with you guys
[5:03] I mean why were you in doing it
[5:10] So people can know who the heck you are.
[5:12] They don't show up to the meeting.
[5:14] Well, they know, trust me.
[5:17] OK.
[5:19] Mark, given.
[5:21] Yes, on Tuesday, the Planning Commission
[5:24] passed the ADU ordinance.
[5:28] So a lot of work went into it, a lot of,
[5:31] I thought a lot of really good discussion back and forth.
[5:34] And I believe we'll be seeing it on September 5th, so there were a few items that you know do we want to have an 8,000 square foot minimum or an 11.
[5:48] We've gone back and forth, we settled on an 11,000 but they'll be doing some research just to see where it's at.
[5:58] So, anyway, that's, I guess that's the only possible adjustment we're looking at, but
[6:04] other than that I think we're pretty solid on it.
[6:07] I think it's a good document.
[6:09] What does the 8,000 versus 11,000 mean?
[6:11] Is that the lot size, is that the...
[6:13] Lot size.
[6:14] So, one idea is you can't do an external ADU or you can attach to ADU if you have a lot less
[6:22] than 11,000 square feet.
[6:24] What is?
[6:26] It's just what I'm a third of an acre say third of an acre
[6:30] So you need to have a third of an acre or more to have an 80 you
[6:34] Bob park. Yeah, okay, and
[6:38] 8,000 is you know if you have an 8,000 square foot lot above you can have an
[6:43] ADU and so the argument is just the setback
[6:48] The setbacks will limit someone that has an 8,000 square foot lot from doing it. Are you factoring in parking too?
[6:56] I mean, they have to have extra parking.
[6:59] So there's a lot of factors and then one is just the economics.
[7:03] It's not cheap.
[7:04] And so I think not everyone's going to rush out and do it.
[7:08] Probably a select few in the city.
[7:10] Is it most of the city R1A?
[7:13] Yeah.
[7:14] But with that, though, there are, there are, you know,
[7:20] third acre lots in R1A times in them.
[7:22] What's in R1A?
[7:24] That is a residential zone where the lots have to be 8,000 square feet and larger.
[7:32] Oh, gotcha.
[7:33] Okay.
[7:35] Okay.
[7:35] Do you have anything else, Mark?
[7:37] That's all.
[7:37] All right, candy.
[7:39] We had bike night yesterday and it was great.
[7:43] I classically ordered 100 cookies and we ran out of cookies and I had to come still cookies
[7:49] for tomorrow so that I could keep giving out cookies.
[7:53] so as far as I am aware this is our best attended bike night and I only saw
[7:59] Sheila just saying I had kin in the people I okay tomorrow we've got the
[8:12] patriotic night where Ross Peterson will be speaking super excited about that
[8:16] we're replacing that with movie night in the park and so we've got the patriotic
[8:25] cookies in here, those are not snacks, even though if you took one tonight
[8:30] every day. What's your time is it? Is it seven. You know you put this right on
[8:34] South workout days. I know I did, but you know what? I blame myself. But when I looked
[8:44] But at the calendar, the school calendar, because I was trying to do it the way before school
[8:49] started, I looked at the wrong calendar.
[8:52] I looked at the 2526 calendar instead of the 2627 calendar, and that's why I think we ended
[8:58] up on top of Sauer crowd days.
[9:01] Last year was the same time, and then they moved it up a week earlier, yeah.
[9:12] But I think I'm not sure I think that they do their parade on Friday night, yeah, which is when process speaking, but I mean, I
[9:23] I don't know if it's the same crowd that's going to the parade that would be going well, they do they do the parade and then they have their whole
[9:33] town well it's the park they do their thing on Friday as well as all day
[9:38] Saturday that's a big commitment they have more things on Saturday but
[9:44] they have a bunch tomorrow night so maybe I can do both but yes I'm aware that
[9:50] we're on top of Sourcrow days but hopefully so I get assume Ross is just at the
[9:56] Yes, if the stage is there, he'll be on the stage.
[9:59] Okay, seven and you said right?
[10:01] Yes, so, um, and, you know, Diane Weiss has been telling people about it and guys know
[10:10] Diane, like I know Diane, that means there's gonna be a lot of people there because she has
[10:14] a better evil eye than I do, getting people to play.
[10:16] She's also so good to listen to.
[10:18] Yeah, he alone is a crowd pleaser, so I'm super excited about that.
[10:25] And then, of course, Apple days on Saturday, so.
[10:28] And I saw your email.
[10:29] I will contact them and let them know,
[10:32] because I was already planning on having
[10:33] the youth ambassadors at that, so.
[10:36] Yeah, so maybe you could just give the council
[10:38] an update on what that whole thing is,
[10:40] that's kind of valley-wide, the day of service.
[10:44] Well, I talked about it when I asked for ideas for it.
[10:48] Oh, that's right.
[10:49] Last meeting, yeah.
[10:50] OK.
[10:51] So they've just asked for youth councils to get involved,
[10:54] also. We already are. Yeah. I just suckers. I'm ahead of the curve. Right. One time. Just one time. Okay.
[11:03] Anything else? Nope. Nothing.
[11:08] Nothing important. Okay. So just a couple things to report on.
[11:14] The fire district thing is progressing. I don't really have anything new to report. Craig and I have
[11:21] been attending meetings on County Road 238.
[11:25] I think you're aware that the county would like to have
[11:28] the respective cities, which are Nibbly Millville,
[11:31] Providence and River Heights, take that road over.
[11:35] But we're meeting as the four cities to kind of get
[11:38] on the same page, and then we'll kind of
[11:42] unitesedly approach the county about what we'd like to see.
[11:45] We're trying, I think we're trying to be reasonable.
[11:47] they'll probably push back but anyway so that's in the works and then just the
[11:59] last thing at the last meeting there was a citizen and I don't remember a name
[12:04] right now that wanted to talk about a unleashed unfants dog park I think she
[12:11] even suggested over here on the same lady that wanted the three dogs and no
[12:16] kind of like that. And that has an extra unit that's not legal. Yeah. So anyway, she wanted
[12:23] to get on the agenda. I'm just telling you that after, I don't know if you remember,
[12:28] this came up in a public comment in back in June. And I emailed our attorney, John Jenkins,
[12:37] and asked him what the liability was. I think my, the direction you gave me was we check
[12:43] with the attorney see what our liability would be if somebody got bit in that kind of a situation.
[12:48] So John responded I believe I read his response in subsequent council meetings. So I just
[12:54] emailed her and told her I'm not inclined to put it on the agenda because we already addressed
[12:59] this and here's what the city attorney sent and I attached his response. So I said if you want to talk
[13:07] about an enclosed dog park, you know I'm happy to put that on a future agenda but I don't
[13:13] see the need to put it on. An unleashed, unfanced one we've already discussed with the city
[13:18] engineer, right?
[13:19] This is called dog march.
[13:21] Right. So anyway she acknowledged that she got it and I think her words were, I give up.
[13:32] or to Logan, she already admitted she drives less than a mile to the dog part and so
[13:38] over there.
[13:39] I used to live next to Jen's Johansson Park, it's not that far away.
[13:43] Okay, anyway, so yeah, I just let you know, I don't know, I don't know if it'll come up
[13:48] again, but if it does, I'm not inclined to put it on the agenda based on our attorney's
[13:54] opinion, so that's all I have.
[13:57] Oh, not much. I was just in between text between Mark and David to now the tree is here for this is going to replace and find tree over by Ryan's Park.
[14:08] And then they talked about putting a tree over here where the old birch tree was.
[14:12] Or the old one.
[14:14] Birch tree?
[14:15] Oh, yeah, big white birch tree that's slowly died over the years was a beautiful tree but replacing that and sort of documenting that for Apple.
[14:24] not in the affidavit, but for our tree city application.
[14:28] So, I'm not sure when that'll happen.
[14:30] Nobody are talking about sometime September, I believe.
[14:34] Could we do that as part of September 11th?
[14:37] Are you talking about planting the tree?
[14:39] More for tree city, I didn't think about September 11th.
[14:43] The day of servicing.
[14:45] Well, you could probably have a good idea.
[14:49] You could probably do it from both.
[14:51] Yeah?
[14:52] I know that the tree city thing we have to have so many trees and stuff right but is
[15:00] A community event, and so that would be the community event. It's planting a tree. Gotcha?
[15:05] You invite people to take pictures, sing it in. David would disagree with that, but as part of the tree planting, he could also give a little message on proper tree care. He'd probably love to do that. So, what's incorrect about that, Mark? Nothing. Oh, he said that.
[15:27] to know could probably talk about property.
[15:29] Yeah, like come help plant a tree and also learn about trees as well.
[15:36] Yeah, we did that before it, but Stuart Hill Park was good.
[15:38] Yeah, that's other than that.
[15:42] A lot of people are using the new park, so that's good to see.
[15:44] And I see groups up there.
[15:46] A lot of people walking through.
[15:47] It's looking good.
[15:48] I don't know if the council is aware of it.
[15:51] The tree that we had to take down on here, which is when you're talking about right.
[15:54] You know everybody rides a place right disease was replaced with two trees that an anonymous donor paid for
[16:04] Which should be whatever they obviously don't want me to tell you who it is
[16:11] Depends how big it is.
[16:17] I'll make it
[16:17] Anyway, okay
[16:24] As I mentioned last time, Clayton and I met with Craig and one of the water-eat-study.
[16:30] I now have the full study and start looking at that.
[16:33] That's all I have on my plate.
[16:35] Great.
[16:36] Michelle?
[16:37] Yes.
[16:38] I am frantically putting invoices in.
[16:40] I've probably got about two-third of them in.
[16:42] So if you'll be diligent in getting those approved because I'm already behind for being gone
[16:46] so long.
[16:47] So just making sure we can get people paid and they're not mad at us.
[16:50] That would be awesome.
[16:51] There are a couple for Apple Day specifically. I have one more I entered when I got here.
[16:56] There's a band that if you can improve them, but can improve it and then she can.
[17:00] I know I'll get those cut tonight. It's possible. So Sheila has those for the weekend.
[17:05] And then with all that being said, we are so close to putting pencils down physically.
[17:11] You're 26. So if anybody has anything outstanding, any expenses,
[17:16] any anything that you need paid from June 34, I would want that now. So, you can just get
[17:24] it paid and get all of our stuff sent off to the otter. So, that's all I have.
[17:29] Okay, Clayton.
[17:33] I just want to thank Mark for helping get the trees planted this morning.
[17:38] They were big. They were big and they were big. You talked about the anonymous donor trees?
[17:43] Yes, they're in the ground out of this morning.
[17:46] They look really nice, but yeah, thanks Mark.
[17:51] Are they here at this park or are they up at the other one?
[17:54] There it is.
[17:54] Cool.
[17:56] We couldn't have done it without him.
[17:59] There's still a little bit of a mess over there.
[18:01] We weren't able to get it all cleaned up
[18:03] before the rain hit.
[18:05] Pretty heavy.
[18:06] And so we got a little bit of a cleanup
[18:09] to still do over there.
[18:10] Not sure it will get done before Apple Day.
[18:13] they're not but it does look nice over there and then we're supposed to do fog
[18:18] seal yesterday but it was canceled because of rain so now we're looking at
[18:23] Monday to finish the fog seal on the on the roads that we chimmed sealed.
[18:34] Thank you. All right we'll move on to public comment. Anyone would like to comment
[18:40] come to the podium.
[18:47] Well, when we move on to the public hearing
[18:50] to receive public comment for the city proceeding
[18:54] with COG funding application for street improvements
[18:58] on six south.
[19:00] So this is the same project that we submitted last year.
[19:04] It's approximately from 770 east to 10th east,
[19:08] so that's just east of the school and out to 10th east.
[19:13] We didn't get any funding last year, so we're, excuse me, we're applying again.
[19:20] The road classification has changed, so now we can apply for more funding last year.
[19:27] We could only hit a max, spot improvement max of 400,000, so we'll do more this year,
[19:33] but Craig will talk about that.
[19:35] So before we open it up for the public hearing, I'll let Craig go through the presentation.
[19:41] I think you're prepared to do the same presentation we'll give to the COG, is that right?
[19:48] Let me just make before you start one other comment.
[19:51] So during the meeting these are COG requirements that we have to meet.
[19:56] So during the public hearing we have to discuss the general concept of the project,
[20:00] the estimated cost of the project and the financial responsibility of the jurisdiction
[20:06] if the project is funded so it probably will be addressing all of us.
[20:12] Thank you mayor.
[20:14] It was a pleasure to be here and congratulate your planning commission on approving or passing
[20:21] for recommendation of the council a detached PUD or accessory dwelling you know ordinance.
[20:28] We've been going through those discussions, and that one's a hard one to try to corral.
[20:33] You start looking at setbacks and heights and parking and lot sizes and privacy issues.
[20:40] And it's like, you know, just it's all over the place.
[20:43] So, congratulations on that one.
[20:49] So, again, as Mayor said, this is substantially the same project as we had submitted last year
[20:56] with a couple of minor changes and to the point where it's like I either look
[21:01] up or I look down. But the changes are at the easterly end of the project at
[21:09] 10th East. So one of the requirements is like Wright City is doing tonight is
[21:14] to have a public hearing and last year did not have a public hearing at the
[21:20] county level and whereas 10th east of the county road that section could not be
[21:26] included we debated whether or not the city should do that work anyway because
[21:32] it is a county road county wasn't interested in participating we're doing it
[21:38] themselves and we're talking primarily addressing or fixing the the curb
[21:46] return on the south side of that intersection that was put in as part of the
[21:52] development and providence that curb return extends way out into the road and
[21:57] ties into the existing asphalt it would have been better to have put that in
[22:02] to match what the future road of six south the future width of that road would
[22:08] have been even if we weren't doing or proposing to do this project at this time
[22:12] and look for funding for it, but nonetheless,
[22:17] so that has to be addressed, replace that curb and gutter,
[22:19] push it to the south a little bit, adjust a drainage box
[22:23] and then match up the asphalt.
[22:26] The other important part of that extension work
[22:30] is those electrical and communications utilities
[22:33] that were strategically placed right out
[22:35] where the middle of the road would be.
[22:39] So up on the screen is the project area.
[22:41] I think everybody is probably familiar with the section of road we're looking at there
[22:47] just to the east of the school.
[22:51] One of the things that the Councilor government requires is the purpose and need statement.
[22:57] This address is kind of why do you want to do this project?
[23:02] And right now, you know, the project intent would be to widen the pavement width at 32
[23:09] feet with curb gutter, a park strip sidewalk and a landscape buffer. The south side would
[23:18] have a nice looking park strip and some a wide enough buffer that could be
[23:24] vegetated with a nice landscaping trees and make a sort of a parkway. Something
[23:31] that would look pretty nice there.
[23:35] The existing asphalt pavement that is out there
[23:39] the north side of that was widened through development work but in multiple phases so there is some
[23:48] section of pavement and then there's another section of pavement and there's a patch or a
[23:52] joint between those two and then there's a joint longitudinal paralleling with the link of the road
[23:58] where the original asphalt is and the widening starts and so the plan includes
[24:05] road milling, removing the existing pavement, verifying road base material below the road.
[24:15] We know that the north side where it was widened has the proper structural section with
[24:21] granular borrow, pit run, road base, and then pavement around the old or original part
[24:28] of the road.
[24:30] We don't know what that roadway section looks like all the way along there and so this
[24:36] would remove the asphalt, verify that base material and either replace or maintain depending
[24:45] on what's found.
[24:47] Historically in other projects we find that that base material is lacking, it's not consistent
[24:54] in depth and usually not the type of material that if we're going to put a new road on top
[24:59] of it you want to leave there so we're expecting in the quantities and costs to remove the excavate
[25:06] the sub base material over the older original part which is now kind of the center to south section
[25:13] that's out there now and then again on the widening on the south side which varies in width from about
[25:21] about eight to 12 feet of additional pavement on the south side. That would also be excavated
[25:29] out and then a full pavement section, meaning pit run, road base, and asphalt would be placed
[25:36] and then a uniform pavement section to repave the whole section of the road so you don't
[25:51] of the Safe Consistent Ruggway that serves vehicles and pedestrians through River Heights City
[25:56] jurisdiction. Another improvement is the sidewalk on the south side. We had a public hearing
[26:05] at the county and actually was very nice, Brent Speth.
[26:11] As previously was a school bus driver,
[26:13] it stood up to speak in favor of the project and said as a school bus driver, he says I drove
[26:19] of that road all the time and observed
[26:21] the, you know, how the children behave.
[26:24] And, you know, there's a sidewalk on the north side,
[26:26] but, you know, children don't want to,
[26:29] well, it's unsafe also to cross the road on the north
[26:32] and then have to cross, walk on the north side side,
[26:34] walk and then cross again back to the south side
[26:37] or whatever in the schools on the south side.
[26:40] So kids would, just walk on the south side
[26:43] and, you know, there's weeds and it's uneven
[26:46] and all these different things others.
[26:48] So they're walking right along the edge of the road and it's a very narrow road anyway.
[26:52] And so he commented at the county public hearing that, you know, he's very in favor of this because of the safety of the children.
[27:00] And so adding the sidewalk on the south will be great improvement.
[27:05] And we also already talked about the intersection improvements.
[27:11] This also, as part of the need is it gets a lot of traffic.
[27:15] There's, you know, a lot of school traffic.
[27:17] there's a commuter traffic both from from Logan and from from Providence that come through
[27:25] intercommunity. This smaller section of road functions very much like county road 238 you know where
[27:33] it passes between multiple communities and it's connecting those. This is also kind of a connector
[27:39] between Providence River Heights connects into County Road 238 and so it serves much the
[27:49] same purposes as you know with the Council of Governments they talk about regional connectivity
[27:57] and you know this maybe doesn't quite qualify by their technical definition as regional
[28:04] connectivity, but it certainly is inter-community connectivity.
[28:10] And again, the last item there is, we talked about River Heights Elementary and the proximity
[28:15] to pedestrian vehicle traffic there.
[28:18] So this is kind of the basis of, there is a valid need for the project, and I think with including
[28:30] the intersection improvements attendees that will rate higher than it did last year without
[28:37] those improvements included. So I think just from a standpoint of even though, you know,
[28:46] it kind of rubs your further on way thinking why are we taking care of a county or providence
[28:52] city situation that, you know, we didn't have any approval or review authority when those
[28:59] things were put in, but, you know, should we have to mitigate that or fix it now, but
[29:06] from the context of acquiring the funding for the overall project, I think that that
[29:13] will elevate the opportunity to be funded. So that, you know, itself has some merit to
[29:22] that.
[29:25] The next slide goes into the project scope, which we've addressed similarly with
[29:30] the description of the purpose and need, and just the overall descriptions of that.
[29:36] In addition to what we've already talked about, this just addresses the landscape restoration
[29:41] and opportunity for additional trees and things on that south side of the road. The road itself
[29:48] is not centered in the right of way and so there's a much narrower part strip on
[29:55] the north side from what we have here and then you know right behind the side
[30:00] Walk is the north property line. On the south side, we'll have a wider park strip. We'll get to the cross section in a future slide here in a landscaping area there. Any questions? Things so far? Or we continue? So in the annex for that project, the generic ones. Did they annex to the edge of the existing world?
[30:29] That's an excellent question, Steve, and certainly has bearing in this whole project.
[30:36] So the prior, one of the reasons why this back up maybe just to step, one of the reasons
[30:43] why this only qualified as a spot improvement project, as far as for funding purposes, is
[30:52] is because it wasn't classified as a connector road
[30:56] on the Council of Governments basically
[31:00] have a transportation plan that has all
[31:03] of the different potential projects in it.
[31:06] And it has to be on a classified collector, which
[31:09] requires a 66-foot ride-of-way.
[31:11] At that point, because the annexation and providence
[31:15] had happened, and with that they had dedicated additional ride
[31:20] way to River Heights City when they established their boundaries. So, you know,
[31:27] Providence did require them or could or the developers did require, did make sure
[31:32] that we had a 66-foot wide road corridor.
[31:38] But the original property on, so the
[31:40] original property on was narrower than 66 feet if you want to look at just the
[31:45] road corridor they dedicated about 16 feet I think 16 and a half feet
[31:50] possibly to get the 66-foot wide the developer the developer did yes but then
[31:59] the annexation boundary is classified as the south right of way line and so the
[32:06] whole street is in River Heights City's jurisdiction there's kind of two
[32:11] overall philosophies among different communities on you know where did
[32:17] that city boundary line where should it be some communities will agree that
[32:24] we should just put that boundary down the middle of the street well then you
[32:28] have Providence City maintaining you know in this example one half and River Heights
[32:33] maintaining the other half and and when you go for projects like a chip seal
[32:39] in a fog seal or something with that, how do you work that out? Who manages no
[32:44] plowing does one city do it and then the other city pays them or do you just
[32:47] trade work and so down the middle of the road it's kind of has maintenance
[32:52] and operations issues and if you take this approach where the boundary line is on
[33:00] one or the other right of way lines then you know that cleans some things up but
[33:06] it has other complications leading to situations like this and this, this is not the only place
[33:14] that this has happened. It's, you know, in just example, in last year's applications
[33:21] for funding, there were two or three similar situations. I know, one up in Smithfield and
[33:30] Hyde Park, I believe, on their boundary line, there's one in Logan and North Logan, I think,
[33:35] as well. And so it's not an uncommon situation. The reason the street hasn't been improved
[33:42] as well. There's a couple of things. But if it's outside of your jurisdiction by state
[33:48] code, Providence City can't legally require the developer to put improvements in River
[33:55] Heights City.
[33:58] Anyway, so there's been a history of different things happening. There was
[34:02] some negotiation and then slip things kind of fell apart and the improvements didn't
[34:08] didn't get constructed and there's no way for River Heights City to force it to
[34:13] happen.
[34:15] Please just right away now is it's River Heights City right away or it's not County
[34:21] right away?
[34:22] The 600 South is River Heights City, yeah just the basically the intersection right
[34:28] out 10th East when you goes out into the county there from basically the
[34:35] corner of the properties you know River Heights City goes to the East property
[34:41] line those properties on the corner and then it goes out into the county right
[34:47] away. I have a question about the side of the road so we as River Heights City
[34:55] would own up to we don't let's park strip and the sidewalk yeah yeah but
[35:02] then everything on that side is the is Providence City and the developer so
[35:08] So it's going to be pretty good.
[35:10] This will be the lowest range there and over here.
[35:12] So this will be the right close-up of the query.
[35:17] But in the north right-of-way line here, and then this is the homes
[35:21] and river heights around this side.
[35:25] And then this would be the south right-of-way line.
[35:28] And the homes on this side of that line would be in problem of city.
[35:33] But this line right here, the south right-of-way line,
[35:36] is the River Heights to the Providence City in this whole boundary.
[35:42] So everything from here north is in River Heights including the whole world.
[35:48] And everything from here is individual lots, which are part of Providence City.
[35:55] So we're in charge of, like you said, the landscaping and the maintenance, I would assume, of that.
[36:01] Like mowing the grass and things like that.
[36:03] There's 6 bookmarks.
[36:05] Yeah, 6 bookmarks.
[36:07] 4th of like half, and a 8th half.
[36:10] That's why we're visiting the improved measure proposed at the moment.
[36:15] Uh, again, most of this was developed a year ago.
[36:19] Plus, uh, preparing for what this was looked like, uh,
[36:24] and the road has shifted over here to the north.
[36:27] Uh, the big difference is here, and we've got 5, 5 and a half,
[36:31] but it varies a little bit on the north side of the way to the far-through.
[36:35] We're here on the south side, it will be six feet,
[36:38] but then here's when they get there, it's an eight and a half foot landscape area.
[36:43] There is sufficiently wide to the plants and the nice trees in there,
[36:50] versus here a five and a half feet eventually they outgrow that,
[36:54] and so on, this type of upgiss is over time.
[36:59] Any questions on those items or discussion?
[37:08] The project funding, let's go to, this is actually kind of a good way to, this is a good
[37:19] thing to talk about.
[37:20] As the mayor mentioned last year, with just a spot improvement, the COG application
[37:26] was limited to $400,000 asking.
[37:30] Now, with the reclassification, the city went through the efforts
[37:35] to ensure that this was a classified listed project
[37:40] with the CMPO.
[37:43] And so therefore, eligible for corridor funding,
[37:47] not just a spot improvement funding.
[37:49] And so the overall cost of the project
[37:52] is really is almost identical to what
[37:54] we had projected last year and the construction amount is about 645,000 and you see the design
[38:07] construction engineering, survey fees, contingency, 10% contingency or unknown conditions, things
[38:18] up that way. This time you can look at that and see that so you add all of that together
[38:25] you have about a $782,000 project which is within about $10,000 of where we were last
[38:32] year for this. But in this situation it's eligible for cog funding up to $720,000. So almost
[38:43] You know, it's not quite double as far as the funding eligibility and the River River Heights City's match is, you know, 58,000 verses, you know, 350,000 that we would have had to put towards it if it were funded and then constructed in the previous cycle.
[39:02] So, you know, if it had been funded, the city would then still have an opportunity.
[39:08] the last year to accept or not to accept and move forward with that or not move forward
[39:15] with the details as well. We don't have $300,000 to put towards it. Again, this is a more
[39:23] significant asking. I think that there's with the 10th-east intersection changes, there
[39:29] is more of an impetus to say, yeah, we can maybe look at that a little bit more favorably.
[39:36] So the comments previously were we don't want to just leave something hanging at the at the end of that still would have to be addressed in the future.
[39:49] So why were we denied the public funding last year? Was that part of the 10th East?
[39:57] That was, I don't know that's why it was denied. I would say that's, it has impact on what the actual ranking
[40:06] was the process of selection, so the cog is basically made up the committee that actually
[40:17] recommends these projects for a word of funding to the county council and the county council
[40:24] will vote and they can either accept the recommendations, which mostly they do, but prior to the cog
[40:33] committee which is composed of all of the mayors of the communities in the
[40:39] county. It goes to a technical review committee which is consists of an
[40:46] outside consultant that evaluates traffic and safety and then the
[40:54] the COG staff and they go through and provide a technical rating
[41:02] First on, you know, classifications from connectivity, you know, they they evaluate basically, you know, this information that we shared today as well as, you know, hold on their additional packet that is submitted with the full application.
[41:18] and if you have an active transportation component, a bike path or 8 or 10 foot wide trail associated with it, you get additional points.
[41:32] If there's a trail that's actually separated or detached from your roadway, you get more points.
[41:39] So,
[41:41] it's an interesting process, if you want to study that.
[41:49] It's hard to get some of those points when you're competing
[41:52] about, you know, sometimes if you play the numbers game,
[41:57] the shell game, so you're like, okay, well I know if I add a designated
[42:03] bike path in here, it's going to make the asphalt, you know,
[42:06] you could take that eight and a half foot landscape buffer and say we're
[42:10] going to put that into pavement and have a striped, you know, then you could
[42:16] take the the shoulders and say we're going to stripe a 10 foot bike lane on
[42:21] there or have or have eight foot wide bike lanes on each side of the road and
[42:26] then you're going to get a couple extra points in that technical rating but
[42:32] but then it's like, well, is it really justified to take and then add eight more feet of asphalt
[42:40] pavement into here that the city then has to maintain and take care of in the future
[42:45] and things just to get those points. Well, it may get your project funded. In the end,
[42:52] if it comes down to, they only have a certain amount of money, it can't fund all of the
[42:58] projects. And so if you think you're going to rate high enough that having an active transportation
[43:05] component is one example, that's one that's kind of discussed a lot. You have to decide
[43:13] is that worth it or not. And as you do that it increases your matching amount because you have
[43:18] to match at a minimum of 8% match which is, you know, it's not, it's 8%, but it's not like the
[43:28] 45 or 50 percent that we were matching on last year's application
[43:32] So there's a lot of
[43:35] You know just have to you know try to figure out how that works, but thank you
[43:39] The short of it is all the mayor's vote and so you look at that and say well
[43:43] I'll vote for your project this year and maybe next year you'll vote for mine or
[43:49] We're not we're not and so it's called collusion
[43:54] There's nothing that prohibits collusion in this practice
[44:02] I think that's starting to wear itself out.
[44:05] They're trying to get some things finished up,
[44:08] but it's taken an awful lot of money over $40 million
[44:11] in the last 10, 12, 15 years has gone towards
[44:18] northern 200 east, 400 east corridors
[44:21] between Logan, the Smithfield, and things.
[44:24] And I think some of the mayors are
[44:27] starting to tire. I mean I'm not a voting member and I'm just going to read
[44:33] things in from discussions and conversations and you know throughout
[44:38] Mayors in the county. So I think this is a good time just as a summary I think
[44:43] this is a good time for River Heights to move this project forward. We'll certainly
[44:50] make the argument also that you know River Heights has never received
[44:55] Cog funding on any previous projects over the decades because
[45:00] They've never had a roadway that is classified as a functional collector. And so just because of the right-of-way widths and county road 238, if the city wanted to push a project forward on 238, that would be one that the city could. But we've always going to have the river heights is going to take in the position that that's a county road. The county should
[45:30] to take the role or the lead in maintaining that road.
[45:35] And I think that it's kind of, as we've been meeting
[45:39] with other communities, it's just counties
[45:43] not interested in that.
[45:44] And so hopefully we can see some changes
[45:47] in that moving forward.
[45:49] So just the next couple slides are a little bit
[45:54] outdated photographs, photos from last year.
[45:58] and it was kind of a rainy day.
[46:02] I was gonna try to go out and get updated pictures this year,
[46:04] but it wasn't quite the best photo day.
[46:06] So I'll see what tomorrow morning shakes loose
[46:09] and see if I can pick up a couple nicer pictures
[46:12] to include in here for the application to the county
[46:16] that are more representative
[46:17] of the current conditions there.
[46:20] I have another quick question about the funding.
[46:24] So is this like wraps where we have a certain amount of time that I'll let go into of time before we don't if we don't use that money we lose it?
[46:33] It is designated for a period of like two years.
[46:39] You can when you fill out the application, there's a spot on there to request additional years to spend it.
[46:49] And so, and it's similar to wraps where, you know, if you're in unforeseen conditions
[46:54] or things come up, you can talk to the COG Council of Governments, basically is, again,
[47:03] it's basically the mayors of each community, but county staff who also works for CMPO, which
[47:11] there's another county transportation
[47:13] that's actually not county.
[47:15] It's employees are county employees,
[47:18] but it's the metropolitan planning organization
[47:24] that's basically they share employees
[47:26] with a cash county, CMPO and COG do this work.
[47:32] And so you can apply for an extension
[47:34] and they have an executive committee
[47:36] that would, you know, review that request and if you have good reasons, they would be willing
[47:46] to extend the funding, the use of that funding. But when you apply for it, you can say, like this,
[47:53] this funding primarily would be available in 2028. So the way that they look at that is if you
[48:04] have like right-of-way things you need to pick up or clean up or complete the drawings
[48:09] and things put it into your budget to actually get the match and things in place. It would
[48:15] give you a couple of years to include that. So this would be again available for construction
[48:23] typically summer of 2028. There's an option if the COG funding is available and if you're
[48:32] prepared and have the plans and you're matching funding in place that some projects could
[48:37] be constructed in next summer 2027. And if you wanted to, when you fill out the application
[48:45] to push it back to 2029, that's an option. So, in the application right now, we have,
[48:52] at this point, not included a request to delay or push that back. And so it would default
[48:58] to the 2028 year for construction.
[49:03] I was just curious.
[49:04] Great question.
[49:05] That was a good question.
[49:05] Is one of those like nobody ever likes to have road construction but if it was during
[49:10] the school year, like every parent driving that road would want to die?
[49:15] Yeah, this would definitely look at trying to do this as a summer project.
[49:20] That would be much better prices from the contractor as well, they didn't have to try to deal with
[49:26] all those issues, and then definitely would interrupt school at the point.
[49:31] Great. Can I ask you a question back on the funding page? So, I see the very right hand
[49:39] column is, are there a cog eligible cost? So, I see the subtotal at 64, 644,604, which lines
[49:50] up with your construction cost up above, right?
[49:54] Yeah, and then you have a contingency of $68.2, which is down right above the total
[50:00] project cost. Is that that lower section, the administrative items? Are those not COG?
[50:07] So I'm glad you brought that up. I intended to address that, so thank you, Mayor. So this
[50:16] year, the COG rules have changed a little bit. Most things are funded, are now
[50:23] COG eligible. For example, this is kind of a template spreadsheet that's
[50:30] used. If you have work in your right-of-way, if your roadway project, like if
[50:36] you're tearing the road up and you think, well, while we've got this torn up, the
[50:40] city really would like to replace the waterline, for example, or fix some
[50:46] sewer manholes or something or replace an irrigation
[50:51] coal or whatever that's going underneath the road.
[50:54] Those are considered not eligible for COG funding
[50:59] just because of, you know, it's, well, COG's not going to pay.
[51:03] They're interested in transportation, not covering
[51:06] your water lines.
[51:08] And so there is kind of a wiggle room on that.
[51:12] That doesn't really apply here, but if a community is saying, well, we're doing this road
[51:17] and we know that in the future there's going to be some roads connecting into it, like,
[51:23] you know, going perpendicular to the main corridor, then COG would fund putting utility
[51:30] stub outs for those future roads just so that nobody likes to dig into a new road.
[51:35] and so.
[51:36] Is there anything there that you can historically remember that used to be updated?
[51:40] There's a new waterline there, correct?
[51:41] The waterline is in good, I mean, it's not new anymore, it's been there for a while.
[51:45] 20 years probably.
[51:46] 20 years or so.
[51:47] Yeah.
[51:47] But it's still new.
[51:48] But it's still new, relatively speaking.
[51:50] So there really aren't any utility improvements there.
[51:54] The one item one here that is that's partially not collegeable is landscaping.
[52:03] They have a definition for landscaping and landscape restoration directly associated
[52:09] with the road.
[52:12] And so in looking at their definitions, we looked at that and says, you know, I don't think
[52:18] that just by the way this cross section works, if you're trying to make nice looking landscaping
[52:25] is more of a little bit higher intensity or number of trees that all of that landscaping
[52:33] is not likely going to be covered by the cog funding.
[52:38] So we did go in and split the landscaping cost and after here and about a tree is worth
[52:45] now, a $600 tree.
[52:46] I was like, well, maybe I didn't put enough in there for landscaping.
[52:50] So that's the adjustment is basically everything's eligible except, you know, on this project
[52:57] part of the landscaping, which is different from last year, the rules that they were working
[53:04] from, the sidewalk on the south side was not covered by COG funding, and basically all
[53:11] of the technical committee, which is kind of the engineers and the mayors had discussion
[53:19] about that and said, this does not make any sense. If you have an active transportation like
[53:26] a bike lane or a concrete path that's at least, I think at least eight feet wide, Cog would
[53:34] cover it, which is, you know, but they won't cover, you know, if it's a shared youth path that's
[53:41] eight to ten to twelve feet wide, it's eligible for funding. But if you have a four foot sidewalk,
[53:45] it was not eligible. And so they did change that this year. So this year that you know the sidewalks
[53:53] is a significant component. And so that is eligible to be covered this year with the rules
[54:00] that they're using. So thanks for bringing up that item. Any other questions for Mark?
[54:07] For Craig, I was looking at Mark once before we opened the public hand.
[54:14] One minor one on the intersection on 850 East and 6L that goes into the subdivision of
[54:24] the visionary.
[54:25] Yeah, we don't talk about that child.
[54:27] I know, but I kind of go into the suit and we'll finish that, so we have to remove the concrete
[54:32] to barricade the bill, right?
[54:34] Like we wouldn't.
[54:34] Yeah, you know, I actually had a discussion
[54:37] with the mayor about that road or that connection.
[54:44] Everybody know what he's asking about,
[54:45] where he's talking about there.
[54:47] This is the road that would,
[54:48] if it went through, would connect
[54:50] into the Providence development.
[54:54] You know, right now, you know,
[54:59] it's just, it's, again, that's a good question.
[55:02] whether or not you include that and say we're going to go ahead and connect
[55:04] Providence in to that road. If the developer had helped to widen the road
[55:15] out, put the sidewalk in, then that would have been, you know, that was a whole
[55:19] some of the discussions back then is access into River Heights. Without them
[55:24] participating, the position of the City Council at the time was well we're not
[55:30] going to allow providence to then connect into this road if they're not bringing any skin
[55:37] to the game as far as you know improving it and things.
[55:41] Well, we could assume that the structure would probably complete that but there would be a
[55:46] chain gate there or something for a fire or a machine.
[55:48] Well, the way that the plans are right now which you know this is just a summary of the plans
[55:53] which I do I did send out the full construction you know the drawing sets to Sheila so
[56:00] So that was probably on your share drive if you want to look at it in detail, but those
[56:04] plans do just show curb and gutter running straight across that and not cutting that out
[56:09] to make that connection.
[56:16] My question about that as an engineer is, as again, it's kind of that, you know, similar
[56:23] to the 10th East intersection, you know, that's a county responsibility, we're picking
[56:30] that up. I do believe that will help improve the ranking of the project. Will it actually
[56:38] get it funded or not? I don't know. Similar question could be made with that road going
[56:44] south into Providence is from an overall transportation component. Is that going to be something
[56:56] and the mayors and the technical committee would say,
[57:00] well, it really should connect.
[57:02] You know, we're going to rank it higher if it does
[57:03] or is it not going to make a difference or what.
[57:07] And so yeah.
[57:08] And this is where we're on the project.
[57:11] Do you talk about that?
[57:12] There's talking on here.
[57:12] That's right there.
[57:13] Yep, see how the sidewalk curb and gutter?
[57:15] There's no asphalt there.
[57:17] So looking at this, this is the stuff that goes down in the UND.
[57:43] So, there's a road that's right there, there is a road there, there is a road there.
[57:50] it's there and there's been barriers so the cars can't drive on it so let me
[57:57] speak to that for just a minute so just so you're aware visionary was not
[58:01] going to put that road in that stubbed road they wanted to just those were all
[58:08] going to be lost there was going to be no access on to six south providence city
[58:13] forced them to put that stubbed road in because providence city wants the
[58:17] connectivity to River Heights and to Six South, which makes sense, right?
[58:23] Yes.
[58:24] So, visionary is not willing to pay for any of the improvements on Six South so they put
[58:29] the barricades up.
[58:30] They actually told me in Craig they were going to just fence it, even though the Providence
[58:34] City made them put the road in, they were just going to fence it.
[58:39] They'd come down the backyards and I don't know why they didn't, that's what they told
[58:43] us that we're going to do.
[58:44] And so I think if we get funded and we can move forward with this, I would think that
[58:50] it might be appropriate for us to go to Providence and say, hey, would you, it makes a lot
[58:55] of sense just to connect it now while we're doing construction.
[58:58] Absolutely.
[58:59] Would you help us with the intersection?
[59:01] And I think they might.
[59:02] Because they're the ones that really wanted the run.
[59:05] Yeah.
[59:05] They're the ones that wanted the addition.
[59:08] So I think they probably would.
[59:10] I haven't talked to them about it.
[59:12] So the difference would be rather than the sidewalk and everything in running right past that would be creating the intersection.
[59:20] So do you think that the sidewalk actually comes and starts to curve a little anticipating the intersection?
[59:36] There are some increase in cost.
[59:41] The curve rate is the start and the sidewalk starts curving.
[59:48] Because of the additional width of the landscape look here,
[59:53] and that being farther out into the right of way,
[59:58] this isn't the right curve.
[59:59] You have to come.
[1:00:00] All right, so the first part of the road off, straight that out, and then starting with an occurred farther out. So there'll be a little bit of agreement. Read, read, read, read, read, read where there would have to be. So maybe we could even.
[1:00:13] Providence about the difference. Yeah, there would, there would be a little bit of offset because you know, right now we're having, you're showing curb and gutter going straight across that, and so you wouldn't have that there.
[1:00:30] be a little bit more, a more length on the curb and gutter and things that way.
[1:00:36] And so, there's some reductions because you wouldn't be putting in sidewalk across there
[1:00:43] but you'd be putting sidewalk on the curves, the returns coming out to connect in and
[1:00:49] instead.
[1:00:50] So Craig, if we do get approved for this, can we make that change after we've been approved
[1:00:56] if we go to Providence City and they're like we're willing to throw some money at it too to make
[1:01:01] this better. That would be okay to change that you know they would accept that.
[1:01:08] We have to do
[1:01:09] another public hearing and all that stuff to make that just check I mean it's fine. We love these
[1:01:14] guys coming all the time. I'll stop talking you meant you can have the mic.
[1:01:22] I don't have anything else
[1:01:27] Thanks for sitting and listening.
[1:01:28] I hope I hadn't just not too long when did it.
[1:01:30] No, it's initial for you.
[1:01:32] So any other questions for Craig?
[1:01:36] I have one that kind of deals with this same thing.
[1:01:39] So on the match where it's $20, $28 money,
[1:01:44] like, say, Providence was willing to,
[1:01:47] or they did want to tie this road in.
[1:01:50] Yes.
[1:01:52] Would there be a possibility to run the sidewalk
[1:01:54] from the school and tie it into the subdivision for kids walking to school and
[1:02:00] then count that money spent towards the the city's contribution or and so
[1:02:11] basically saying do that we've already sidewalked earlier to get the sidewalk
[1:02:16] in a year and so yeah I mean you could I think you could do that because you
[1:02:23] have to use that money towards the project and the sidewalk is an eligible
[1:02:29] component of that now. Is that a we pay up front get reimbursed or once we get
[1:02:35] the award based into the check? It's a you pay and get reimbursed. It's like
[1:02:41] graphs that way. That's a good that's a good question to you know.
[1:02:52] It's a great
[1:02:53] me it makes a lot of sense. And storm water, storm water improvements previously were
[1:03:01] not included in college eligible was basically asphalt road.
[1:03:06] Are there any south side besides curb and gutter? The most that stuff is already on the north.
[1:03:10] It's mostly on the north and so what we have is I think there's three catch basins on the south
[1:03:15] side that are that coincide with boxes on the north side. So we're just tying into the
[1:03:22] storm rain system on the north side.
[1:03:25] What drives the west and picks up somewhere
[1:03:27] under the elementary school in the south, right?
[1:03:29] Yeah, it's cool.
[1:03:30] Yes,
[1:03:35] okay.
[1:03:36] Just a schedule, just a couple of things on the schedule.
[1:03:38] The application will be turned in tomorrow.
[1:03:45] Then it goes to the technical review committee.
[1:03:49] They kind of do all of their scoring and ranking that way.
[1:03:52] and then it's distributed out to, actually before it goes to the technical review committee,
[1:03:59] each applicant has an opportunity to basically present to the mayors, the COG association,
[1:04:09] and you know, plead their case more or less, talk about their project, and then it goes to
[1:04:16] the technical review committee and then once those results are back then I think I've got
[1:04:23] that order right and then each of the mayors will have an opportunity to vote and I can ask
[1:04:31] questions that vote and review that. They will ask questions at the and have some discussion
[1:04:37] at the when the presentations are made. I assume there's more applications than there's money.
[1:04:46] Yeah, I'm sorry, but absolutely yeah, it's usually about half. Well last year they had
[1:04:51] a little bit more. Last year they had so many and this year I think we'll have 12.
[1:04:55] Yeah, it's about 12 and that could be two projects, two projects that on the north end of
[1:05:03] the valley would pretty close to ask their asking's would be for most of the funding that's
[1:05:10] available. So Craig are you our guy that goes and pitches it or does Lance do it since
[1:05:15] he's over-roads or does the mayor do it? Well, I did last year. I don't know if I did
[1:05:20] a very good job of it or not, but if you think something might, okay, put me get me a
[1:05:25] little bit better ranking. My feelings won't be heard. Talk to them more technical.
[1:05:29] You've got it. You've never want this to go through. I'm your guy.
[1:05:36] The three of us are sitting in the air.
[1:05:40] I'll stand behind and then hold a sign.
[1:05:43] Vote for Greg.
[1:05:45] My thoughts last night were we need to recruit that counsel person from Providence that came to me.
[1:05:51] She got right after it.
[1:05:53] She did a great job.
[1:05:54] So, you know, there are two projects that were presented at the county public hearing Tuesday night that were over 5 million each.
[1:06:04] So if those two get approved, that's all the money.
[1:06:07] That's a big chunk of it.
[1:06:09] And then pretty much all of it because there is a certain percent that they call the rural set aside that is reserved for communities that are outside of the metropolitan planning area
[1:06:23] which are like your amalgas and Newton and men and communities that are farther removed
[1:06:29] from the population corridor.
[1:06:33] So after the application is turned into tomorrow, then it goes under the review, what is the
[1:06:39] meaning, where the decisions made, where the money goes?
[1:06:42] I don't remember that part of the schedule, I work on a need-to-know basis, as long as I don't
[1:06:47] miss a deadline, I don't need to know yet.
[1:06:49] It's a different question, sorry, I think it's some, it's in October, yeah, the selections
[1:06:55] are typically going to be on October.
[1:06:57] And we score them on our own, and then we have a deadline, we have to turn them all
[1:07:01] in and they compile the scores, but the good thing or bad thing to be done, I look at is
[1:07:07] you see exactly who scored whom how, but it's a transparent process.
[1:07:14] I can see who voted for our project and who didn't or what what they do is they you your top-ranked
[1:07:22] project would have 60 points for example and then your second rank will have 56 and then your next
[1:07:28] one will have 52 so if somebody gives you four
[1:07:32] that you were last on their list. Providence better put us high.
[1:07:36] Well, just so you know they we have offered two letters of support for two of their three projects and they've offered a letter of support for this one.
[1:07:46] Oh yes thank you so yeah so we even last year I was worried about funding because if we got the 400,000 I didn't know how we were going to come up with the balance.
[1:07:58] So I actually ring providence is higher than ours because I thought there was a worthy project and I was worried about how we fund it.
[1:08:05] Yeah sure it would have been hard to fund the last year and I was already number one on my list.
[1:08:10] Naturally.
[1:08:12] Now there's one item that I did want to mention or ask about.
[1:08:16] Last year we did get a letter of support from the school, the principal, and I haven't reached out to the school yet.
[1:08:24] And so if somebody has a connection at the school, we could get a letter of support in favor of the project.
[1:08:31] We could turn that in similar to what we have a letter of support from Providence City.
[1:08:37] If you tell me what I need to say to her, I will, because I've already told her that this is, that we're doing this.
[1:08:42] I will give you, did we have one from last year and I will give you the one from last year and tell her we just need her to buff it up a little bit.
[1:08:53] And okay, because I know that she she's very invested in this
[1:08:57] Okay, yeah, the deadlines tomorrow
[1:08:59] We have a letter last year. Didn't we get one last year?
[1:09:04] I don't think we did I think it was the I don't remember out to school sidewalk projects that we got letters to support for
[1:09:14] It was the safe route. There's a sidewalk project if she would it would still help us anything. Yeah. Yeah, I will send some
[1:09:23] get that for you. Okay, because I'll I can email it to her if you give me the
[1:09:27] information tonight I can email it to her tonight and she checks her emails
[1:09:30] first thing in the morning. I know because I emailed her last week and she called
[1:09:33] me 15 minutes after I send the email. Okay, perfect. Thank you. I apologize that I
[1:09:39] didn't I should have been more on top of it and than that earlier but get
[1:09:44] there. Okay, thank you. Let's we'll open the public hearing to receive public
[1:09:50] comment for this funding application for street improvements for 600 South
[1:09:56] between approximately 770 East, 770 East and 1,000 East. Is there anybody here
[1:10:03] that would like to comment? Just come to the podium and state your name.
[1:10:08] Craig
[1:10:09] Bailey. I think the projects needed in my estimation I think the county could be
[1:10:14] liable if you could get her hit and I'd bring that up to her. Where the sidewalks
[1:10:21] are on both sides, and I think that it may be helped their cause, or the River Heights
[1:10:29] cause of it, making sure that we're covered.
[1:10:32] I'd also say on this project on the landscape, I would really look at illuminating as much
[1:10:38] grass and maintenance as possible to help reduce freaks or costs on the River Heights.
[1:10:45] I just, and I don't know if that costs more initially or less, my mind says less, but
[1:10:53] over the long run, if you're not having to stop and push long hours around there, fix
[1:10:59] furniture systems, that's something.
[1:11:00] And that, and potentially that means it isn't very pretty and maybe not as fun to walk
[1:11:06] along.
[1:11:07] There's some pretty zero scapes up there.
[1:11:08] Yeah.
[1:11:09] It's just something to consider.
[1:11:10] make life easier on Clayton and his team.
[1:11:13] Unfortunately, grass is about the easiest thing to maintain.
[1:11:17] Is it?
[1:11:19] Zero skates great for the first year and then after that,
[1:11:22] that's as much maintenance as grass.
[1:11:24] Tell the weeks come up.
[1:11:25] What's going on here?
[1:11:26] I'm just a thought.
[1:11:30] The other thing I would say, I think we got shafted on this whole area
[1:11:38] and gotten incorporated. I say secure borders until Providence City is
[1:11:43] stuff it. And we do not want to come over to our street. And I would guess that
[1:11:49] had reduced our traffic on that street, just the pot.
[1:11:55] Well, my suggestion was to make a list of this came up last year.
[1:12:01] Could you do the intersection? Well, let's just put a couple of
[1:12:08] And that's probably not the right thing to say, but I'd not guess people that live along
[1:12:15] that street would rather have less traffic and I think you're going to get more there.
[1:12:21] So thank you.
[1:12:22] Thank you.
[1:12:23] Anyone else?
[1:12:27] All right.
[1:12:28] We'll close the public hearing.
[1:12:30] And I think that's it.
[1:12:32] but I think we just have a motion to adjourn.
[1:12:36] Correct, thanks for putting that all together.
[1:12:37] Yeah.
[1:12:38] Yeah, a good little nodding.
[1:12:40] Thank you.
[1:12:41] Thank you.
[1:12:42] Thank you.
[1:12:42] If the budget being introduced, all right,
[1:12:43] I was ready to announce it.
[1:12:45] It's all a good budget.
[1:12:46] I mean, they're going to put them up with my inconsistencies
[1:12:49] and the waitances of the event.
[1:12:53] So I have enjoyed your rights.
[1:12:55] And I'm not working on this community.
[1:12:57] If you're talking about Apple days,
[1:12:59] I need to remember this.
[1:13:01] You know, the years ago, you know, I'm just a little sergeant in here, and we have an opportunity to help sponsor that or logo on your feature.
[1:13:11] It's kind of worth that feature that they have.
[1:13:13] I was telling you, we've hired an assistant within string.
[1:13:17] It's like this was getting comfortable.
[1:13:20] Right?
[1:13:21] What do you have in this great decision?
[1:13:23] Thank you.
[1:13:26] I like how you do it.
[1:13:27] It's a great weather. It's not like the middle of the night.
[1:13:31] July.
[1:13:33] Until I pour it.
[1:13:34] Until I pour it over.
[1:13:36] Can I get a motion to adjourn?
[1:13:38] I'll make that motion.
[1:13:39] I'll second it.
[1:13:40] Great. Motion to second.
[1:13:42] You bet. All in favor?
[1:13:43] Yes.
[1:13:43] Yes.