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Good evening. I'd like to welcome
everyone to the Village of Riverside

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Board of Trustees regular meeting of
Thursday, March 19th, 2026.

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Uh please stand as you're able and join
me in the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Clerk Stenzel, please call the role.
>> Trusty Marsha,

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» here.
>> Trusty Gallagher here.

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» Trusty CS
>> here.

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» Trusty Evans here.
>> Trusty Mateo here.

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» Trusty Fitzgerald here. Manager Francis
>> here. President Pollock

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» here.
>> Also, President Clerk Stenzel.

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» Uh we have a brief president's report.
Uh upcoming village meetings include the

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following. Uh March 23rd, Parks and
Recreation Board regular meeting.

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Riverside Public Library at 6:30 p.m.
March 25th, Planning and Zoning

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Commission regular meeting at uh here at
the Village Hall Town Hall. uh room 4

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6:30 p.m. And our next regular scheduled
meeting is April 2nd. Uh same time, same

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place, 6:30 p.m. Town Hall.
Uh that concludes my president's report.

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Do we have any trustee reports this
evening?

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There are none. Uh Manager Francis,
manager's report.

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» Thank you. I have two items to update
the board and the public on. One being

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um the board might have seen that Joel
Kennedy is starting to work on parkway

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restorations from lead service lines
that were installed last year. Um so

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this will be firsttime restorations in
the parkway and also any areas that have

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subsided over the winter will be
restored as well. Another item that will

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begin soon is Nyor's restoration over on
Cowi. They'll be restoring the roadway,

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curbs, sidewalk, and um the parkway.
There will be a detour when that work

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begins. Uh public works staff is working
on obtaining the details and

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coordinating through Nyore and their
contractors. Once the village has

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received that information regarding the
detour and the timing, we will share it

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with the public. As of this evening, we
don't have confirmed dates, but as soon

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as we do, we will send those out. That
is all I have this evening.

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Thank you. Uh public comments for
non-aggenda items. Is there anyone in

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attendance who would like to address the
board uh on a matter that is not on our

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agenda tonight? Uh knowing that uh as we
go through the agenda, there'll be

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public comments on those specific items.
There are none. Uh consent agenda. Clerk

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Stenzel, please read the consent agenda.
>> Approve voucher list of bills March

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19th, 2026. Approve village board of
trustees regular meeting minutes March

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19th, 2026. Approve village village
board of trustees executive meeting

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minutes March 5th, 2026. The previous
one was also March 5th. Review and file

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board and commission minutes economic
development commission regular meeting

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minutes January 14th, 2026. Landscape
Advisory Commission regular meeting

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minutes February 10th, 2026. Historical
commission regular meeting minutes

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February 16th, 2026. Review and file
department reports. Public works

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February 2026 finance February 2026
2025 community development annual report

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and 2025 public safety annual report.
A resolution authorizing the village

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manager to create a purchase order in
the amount of $174,900

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for Christopher B. Burke Engineering to
provide professional design and

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constructive engineering services as
part of the South Coat Road res.

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An ordinance amending the village code
relative to beekeeping and henkeeping

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and amending a fee schedule for the
village riverside. An approval of facade

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grant application for Salme 35 East
Burlington.

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» Do any of these items uh need to be
removed from the consent agenda?

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Uh there are none. I'd ask for a motion
and a second to approve the consent

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agenda.
>> So moved.

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» Second.
>> Motion and second. Clerk Stenzel, please

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call the role.
>> Trusty Marsha.

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» I.
>> Trusty Galgas.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty Cos.

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» I.
>> Trusty Evans.

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» I.
>> Trusty Matteo.

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» I.
>> Trusty Fitzgerald.

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» Hi.
>> Motion carries. Uh, department board and

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commission reports. We have an update
this evening from for from the parks and

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recreation department. Assistant
director Megan Cisa will provide that

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report.
Good evening, President Pollock, village

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trustees, manager Francis. I just wanted
to provide you all with a quick update

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on some events and programs that we have
coming up as we move into the spring

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season. Our variety of egg hunt events
will take place later this month. We

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will kick off the egg hunt festivities
with our teen flashlight egg hunt that

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will take place next Thursday, March
26th, over at Indian Gardens. The hunt

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will begin at 7:45 p.m. and we invite
those that are 11 to 15 to join us for

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that. Just be sure to bring a basket and
a flashlight with you. We will follow

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that up with our annual egg hunt which
will take place on Saturday, March 28th

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over at Big Ballpark. We will begin our
age groups promptly at 10:00 a.m. and we

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invite those that are 10 and under to
join us for that. The bunny will also be

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available at that event for photos. And
then we will conclude our egg hunt

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events with our golden egg hunt which
will take place from March 31st to April

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2nd. Each day in that time frame, new
golden eggs will be hidden in the parks.

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Each golden egg that's found is going to
be eligible for a $10 parks and recck

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certificate to use toward any future
program or event. Moving on to

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programming that we have, we've got a
variety of programs that are beginning

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in the next few weeks. Some upcoming
adult programs that we have are cardio

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kickboxing, weight training, Zumba,
yoga. We have a Mother's Day paint and

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sip, and dodgeball and pickle ball
tournaments. And then some upcoming

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youth programs include a spring break
art camp, flag football, and spring

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soccer, as well as our ongoing nature
programs such as Saturdays in the Woods,

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and Earth Day nature hike. And speaking
of programming, our summer program

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brochure will release in May with all of
our summer programs, classes, and

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events. Be sure to keep an eye out in
your mail for our seasonal brochure

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mailer that will come out to announce
when that is released. And lastly, we're

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very excited to announce our brand new
weekly newsletter for Riverside Parks

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and Recreation. Every Tuesday, we will
release a newsletter to your email

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that's going to include some exciting
upcoming programs and events. This is

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going to be the best way to keep up to
date with all things Riverside Parks and

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Wreck. We did send out an initial signup
email as well as our first newsletter.

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And if you did not receive that, you are
able to sign up um with the QR code

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that's been posted both to the Riverside
Parks and Recck Facebook page as well as

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the village p Facebook page. Thanks.
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director Cisco? I would just make one
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» since we adopted Well, first of all,
thank you for the update on the

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programs. Uh, spring is here, so it's
time to get out, get outside and sign up

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for a program. But I also want to take
this opportunity to thank the parks and

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recreation department and parks and
recreation board on the tremendous

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success, in my opinion, you've had
already in implementing your master plan

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for 2025. We've already got funding for
for uh uh Turtle Park uh and um and Ble

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Park, right? Yeah. Ble uh funding and
that's in the pipeline. And we're hoping

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to follow that up with Harrington next
summer. And uh also the parks and

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recreation board will be considering
another goal from the master plan of

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creating zoning for the uh parks and
open space in the village. So, thank you

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to the department and the board.
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» Uh, pending business, um, presentation
and discussion of new public safety

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facility visualization concepts. Manager
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» thank you. Um we do have the team from
Williams Architects that will walk the

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village board through um the different
schemes and designs for the board to

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take a look at and provide some feedback
on. Additionally, I just wanted to

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provide the board a brief update after
this evening. Um the next step based on

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the feedback that's received, Williams
will then attend a preservation

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commission meeting and get additional
feedback based on the narrow down down

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designs that the village board wants
preservation to react to and give

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additional feedback. So with I will turn
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» Good. Good evening, President Pollock,
village trustees manager Francis. um

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happy to be here again tonight and um
we'll have all four of our team members

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presenting um this evening a lot of
information about the concept. So um

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let's just get right into it and next
please. So we want to just bring you up

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to speed um as to where we've been um
what we've been working on for the last

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few months and ultimately the four
different ideas we have um for the

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exterior of the project. Um, we also
have partnered with harbor contractors

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and Chris Kak is here tonight to tell
you a little bit about where costs are

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projected at the moment as well as some
ideas to um perhaps um bring costs down.

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At this point, we are um simply looking
for feedback from you as the village

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board um what you like, what you don't
like um in terms of the exterior concept

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so we can continue to move forward and
and refine. But most of all, we want to

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make sure we're answering your questions
and keeping you as informed as possible

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about the proposal.
So, um I sort of just gave away the the

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updates. Um we've worked um had several
meetings with staff. Um we've um put

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together um four very um distinct
concepts um for the exterior. We've also

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really validated the work that you've
seen so far by engaging a civil engineer

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and a structural engineer to make sure
that we really understand the site to

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confirm that we do not need to do
anything further in terms of storm water

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um detention which we have confirmed and
to understand um how we would be

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actually structuring this in
consultation with a structural engineer.

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So um there is a measure of um
architectural and engineering

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feasibility that are baked into these
concepts that we're um going to show you

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tonight and talked a little bit about
next steps as manager Francis mentioned

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um we're ready to move um upon your
direction into design adjustments and

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review um by the preservation commission
and to begin the community engagement

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process around this project.
Um, so with that, um, I will turn it

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over to our project manager, Kim Nigro,
to recap the site plan and the floor

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plans and then we'll move to the
exterior concepts. Thank you.

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» Thank you everyone. Glad to be back with
you. Um, I'll just start by recapping

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the um, site plan and floor plans. um
some of which most of which you saw at

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our last presentation but it has been
refined based on your feedback and um

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some consensus um about the various
schemes that we presented at our last

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meeting. So um
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just getting back off. Thank you chief.
So um just to give you the brief quick

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overview of the site plan of the various
schemes that we presented last time. The

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main difference was whether the
apparatus bay would be um flanked by the

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apparatus support to the east or more or
whether that support bar would be more

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in the center of the overall layout
based on again feedback from all of you

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and more conversations with the manager
and chief. Um the decision was that

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keeping the apparatus bays more um
toward the center and putting that

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support on the outside edge um provided
a couple of different benefits within

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the plan layout itself as well as on the
site. So this allows that apparatus

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apron to be a little further away from
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provides that surface level parking here
for staff to come in quickly. Um and

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then we've also again still focusing on
the community and public space here as a

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light touched link to the existing
village hall. Um based on the feedback

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again, we've focused the entryway right
here on axis with the colonade or view

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connection out toward the river. Um and
and as you'll start to see in the

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exterior schemes that we'll show you, um
all of the schemes have this layout on

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site. All of the schemes have the same
kind of axis and exterior um colonade

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and patio space um and you know are
basically all in the same massing and

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form on the site.

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So this um lower level plan really again
hasn't changed since you last saw it. um

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parking available for um police here on
the lower level, entrance uh for staff

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to a staff stair that takes them um or
through the elevator securely up to

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secure administrative space on the
second floor. Um and then keeping kind

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of the basic storage of the building
under the apparatus bay on this end and

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the evidence processing and storage here
um near where they would enter and then

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the utilities on the far end.

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So, this again, as I kind of recapped on
the site plan, the main floor level has

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um this community space around the lobby
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toilets and the you we're saying
ornamental stair that really just means

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open, not an enclosed fire stair. um and
space for displaying of the historic

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firet truck and um potential
repositioning of some um village hall

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space in the in the existing village
hall. Uh and again that really nicely

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consolidated shared administrative space
between police and fire. And then as we

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move to the east, the um apparatus and
the support zones um for the apparatus

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bay.

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And on the upper level, again, all of
the community space is focused here on

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the west end where they could come up
this public stair, access restrooms,

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access the fitness space, um, come down
this public corridor all the way through

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to the public terrace, um, and to the
community space, which is has access to

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Riverside TV, the kitchen, and some
storage. So, the elevator is here

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centrally located. this would have
public access at this level. Um, also if

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police or fire needed to use that
elevator at this upper level, they can

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do that and then come into a secure
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where most of the police functions are
are focused right here with a men's

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locker room and toilet and showers,
women's locker room, toilet and showers,

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and then as you move on, um, this shared
kitchen, dining and day room space, and

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then the more private bunk rooms and
lockers for fire and EMS personnel.

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Well, that was one of the comments from
the last meeting was um liking them

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having kind of their own quieter wing
over here um on the other side of the

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apparatus bay. So, yeah, again, just
more public zone shared and and more

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quiet private on the end.
So, with that, I'm going to move into um

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exterior schemes unless anyone has any
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recap.
So, I want to start by again kind of

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talking about what's in common with the
four different schemes that we've looked

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at. Um we've tried to take our cues um
based on listening to chief and uh um

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manager and and all of the committee
about paying reverence to this historic

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village hall but not trying to imitate
it. understanding the cues that we're

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receiving from the proportions of the
building and um respecting that,

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following that language, but creating a
new um design for this new um facility.

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So, we've done things like looking at
the strong horizontal masonry banding of

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this building and taking some cues from
that. We've looked at these the strong

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corner vertical elements with the
turrets and taking some cues from that.

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Um and then we've um because of the
large footprint of this plan as compared

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to this building, we've tried to break
it down into clear those same kind of

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clear functions of public administrative
fire and you know make sure that it's

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not looking like a vast facade by
comparison to this building. and at the

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same time wanting to um celebrate the
height of this building while keeping

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this new facility lower. Again, because
it is um wider, a little larger in

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footprint, we wanted to not have it also
be as tall and competing with this facil

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this structure in that in that way as
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So, we've kind of named each of these
schemes so that you have a little

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something to remember. It's it's going
to be a lot that we go through tonight.

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So, I want um you to be able to refer
back to which was that scheme. So, we've

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named this one dynamic response. And so,
scheme one uh really started around a

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desire to um look at how closely we are
situated up against the village hall,

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but give it a little bit of room to
breathe. So, um that footprint that in

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plan was pretty square. In this version,
we're sort of um angling a few of the

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walls, mostly this colonade that kind of
leads you through to the river and

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bending right around this point where we
get tight at this turret. Um and so the

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idea was that as you enter in the
facade, this the this column structure

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feels wider, feels welcoming, kind of
funnels you into the space and then

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widens again at the back, opens up again
at the terrace. So you feel that kind of

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dynamic um movement as you as a you know
from someone from the community coming

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to that space. And then again as I'd
mentioned um we've taken these these um

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horizontal banding of the facility and
kind of mirrored that um in terms of the

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proportions of overall and then breaking
this community space down separately in

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mass from the apparatus bays and the
support zone on the end. And in talking

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about some kind of tower anchoring
elements vertically in each scheme,

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you'll see kind of this repeating um
vertical elements that um you know give

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some repeat the rhythm of these
elements.

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So this gives that view kind of right
through the entry and through um to the

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green space along the river. And you can
kind of see those columns begin to

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repeat leading you in. This would be
that historic um firetruck display could

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could be on either side and and then uh
the public conference room and fitness

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here. So it is glassier on this front
area. This is where those community

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spaces would be.

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And then as we each of these images will
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toward the river as we And so this again
is that um oop sorry

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the um bunk rooms here and some light
into the apparatus bay um support spaces

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some lighting into stair towers

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and on the back again um having kind of
expressing these

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um ramps and and this dynamic um sort of
angular shapes again where you emerge

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from the building with this colonade. Um
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of angled shading at the community
terrace as well.

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And so then as you approach from the
river, walk from the west, you would

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enter this public patio level. And then
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supported by that colonade up at the
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I should have said in the beginning,
each of these schemes might have

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elements or aspects that you like. They
they are all somewhat interchangeable.

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if there's some aspect of scheme one
that you feel like would also work or be

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celebrated in scheme three. Um just like
with the plans, you know, we want to

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show you these four options as a way of
showing a lot of different ideas and

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then taking that feedback and and
working them in together.

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So there's kind of an aerial view where
you can see that bending um a little

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more a little more clearly illustrated.
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set a little lower to allow some
daylighting in along the um living

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dining uh day room spaces.

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Okay, move on to scheme number two.
Oh, I one more. Sorry. Elevations. So

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the the flat elevations we thought were
kind of helpful to really look at the

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scale of this building compared to those
historical datms and lines in the

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masonry and how we're kind of pulling
those through and then how we're kind of

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breaking down this eastern facade that's
facing more towards the residential

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areas with more punched opening smaller
scale windows to keep that looking

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appealing.
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Good evening. Uh again, uh president,
board, and uh and staff. Happy to be

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back, uh here with you all. Uh so this
is I've got control here, right? Uh

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forward and back. All right. Um as uh as
Kim shared, uh these images will take

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you on a walk around uh each one of the
schemes. Uh, another thing I wanted to

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mention with these, as you see, we're
showing this in a very light, um, just

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kind of off-white collar with a little
hint of material. So, uh, to build on,

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uh, a bit of what was said, we're
beginning to hint at materiality. So,

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uh, keeping that in mind, too, like the
kind of interchangeability of ideas with

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these schemes, some of these lend
themselves to, uh, inherently a little

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bit more of a traditional look. Uh, but
even the more modern look uh, could use

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more traditional materials. masonry or
or wood cladding and different things

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that could uh kind of help bridge the
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just keeping that in mind, we we've
intentionally left these a little bit of

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a blank slate with that um material uh
flexibility in mind. So, uh I'll take

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you around this one that we're calling
um contextual presence. And uh as you

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see immediately it feels a little more
traditional, a little more in uh uh in

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tune maybe with the the traditional
architecture of the adjacent building.

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Uh but yeah, very interested to have you
all review all these and and give us

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your thoughts uh if we're finding that
balance. Um so the uh entry through the

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middle there, you've got the view
through and hint of the the river

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beyond. We've got the historic engine
number three. uh tucked into the the

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space between the buildings on this one
and this one you see we've we've kept a

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little further away than scheme one. So
you also see the view to the sky beyond

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um and with the tight program there
there's uh moves that we make with these

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like with this one you see the upper
level begins to pull forward a bit. So

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by um kind of tight moving it further
away from the village hall we we flex

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and scoot the spaces forward a little
bit. So, just a subtle difference that

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you'll see with some of these. Um, so
here we're moving around um to the

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northeast. Uh, this one uh also does the
the moves with the massing to step down

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and then step back up uh at the corners.
Uh here's the view from the swinging

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bridge of the um south facade. Those
views into the living spaces and then

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the much larger glazed opening into the
community room on the upper level.

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Uh this one uh still has as all of them
have the upper and lower um terrace on

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the river side uh but with a more pulled
back overhang.

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Um here's the view from the potential
riverwalk uh coming up from the

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southwest.

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And uh note again note the the large
windows into and out of the um the

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community room. Here's the aerial

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from the northeast and then the other
aerial from the southwest. And also

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wanted to point out from the southwest
views, you'll see a little hint of what

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we were thinking of as a potential um
art wall on the what's currently a a

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literal blank slate on the back side of
the uh the village hall where we just

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have the lap siding there. Uh our
thought was this could with um the

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adjacency of the new public space could
be an opportunity for a mural or or art

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wall of some kind. So you'll see that in
in all of the schemes. Um the other um

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unique difference on this one uh a much
more um like curve linear approach to

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the riverw walk. And with all of these
schemes, uh you'll you'll also see how

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in collaboration with our um uh civil
engineers, we're we're retaining that or

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we're keeping the existing retaining
wall and any proposed new work is being

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held back from that retaining wall from
the river. So, uh subtle detail on those

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riverwalk schemes. There's um the
elevations.

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Uh and um we're only we were only
showing the like the primary public

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elevations. Um but we've kind of studied
as you saw in the 3Ds the the the

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alignment um on all sides.

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And moving on um to the um next one. I'm
going to take the middle two and then

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I'll hand it uh hand it off to another
member so you don't have to hear from

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one of us for too long. Uh so this one
we're calling um spatial framing. And uh

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what you'll start to see with this one
is this theme of kind of linear bands

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that uh that encircle and frame certain
spaces or views uh around the building.

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So um there at the entry, this piece
that rises up and frames that entry and

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the view through. And you see a hint of
another framing element on the far side,

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which you'll see as we move around.

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Uh here we've got the the stair towers,
very similar massing to the others

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responding to that program, but rather
than the kind of capped tower, it's got

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this uh framing element that that um uh
frames the tower with some glazing in

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there to provide light into the stair
tower.

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Here's the view from the swinging bridge
with the articulation of the south

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facade. uh more of those um boxed
elements around there which as you start

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to see in this view and you'll see in
the other ones as well the articulation

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on the south we begin to push and pull a
little bit to provide solar control on

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the south uh the lighting here is based
on accurate um sun uh light that would

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hit the building at different times in
the year uh so you can see how in like

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morning light in I forget what day we
based this on but the those elements

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that come out are providing important um
feature to help prevent glare and direct

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uh heat gain coming into those spaces
while still uh allowing views out.

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This one uh has that framing around that
upper piece. So uh still open to the

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river but a little more enclosed.

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Here's the view uh approaching down the
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uh and the aerial views.

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Yeah. So, more of a angular kind of
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And you'll notice with all of these, we
we were providing some like stepping

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terracing or like potential little
planter areas that would provide uh

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engagement on the the riverwalk and
terrace as well.

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Here's those elevations.

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All right, I'll hand it back to Kim.
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So, um, this final scheme, we wanted to,
um, certainly show a version that did

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have, um, pitched roofs and take a
little bit of a cue from this building

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in that way, while at the same time not
going quite for the steepness that this

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building has. This is not a building of
that era, and we don't want to again

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compete with with this building in that
way. So, um, but we did want to do a

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version to show you where we use those
different roof shapes again to anchor

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these, um, sort of towers at the corner
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Um so um the other thing about this
scheme and why we're calling it

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traditional anchoring is we're also
exploring some other ideas of smaller

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punched openings um that might lend
itself more to an overall masonry

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construction again a little more like
the village hall. And like Joe said, um

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the materiality is going to be another
opportunity to relate back to this

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building in terms of color and materials
and those kinds of selections regardless

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of what uh form the the new building
takes. Um so in terms of the uh some of

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the elements in the scheme are very
similar to scheme number two in terms of

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um these vertical kind of engaged
columns and some of the um these sort of

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outriggers that are something a little
bit prairie style or craftsman uh in

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nature.

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So again the similar view towards the
river

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and in each scheme we are trying to
think about providing you know some

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space where you would want privacy on
the inside anyway. It creates a signage

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opportunity on the exterior.

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So, as we move to the south, again, just
looking at breaking up some of these

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areas of glazing, slightly smaller
glazing areas, um, balancing some what

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might be some additional roofing uh,
costs with maybe less glazing costs.

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Um and in this scheme, one other
difference um on the rear here is that

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because of the roof um massing, we've
extended the roof out and made this a

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fully covered uh terrace where the
columns go all the way up to support

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that roof structure.
Uh again, in this scheme, we're showing

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a the same kind of riverwalk element
with the curve linear

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design as in scheme two.

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you know, knowing that we aren't the
landscape architects, we're the

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architects, but this building has so
much integral relationship with what we

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know will be an important river um
feature river future riverwalk. And so,

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regardless of, you know, even the early
stages right now, we want to make sure

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that the architecture of this new
facility is addressing that outdoor

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space even at a conceptual level and
being informed by it.

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So again, as Joe mentioned, all of the
schemes have that public art opportunity

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that you know, if you're enjoying this
terrace, you've got a nice view of

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that public art opportunity.

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And there you can see a little better in
elevation how those kind of roof

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elements
um relate but don't compete with the

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village hall.
So just to kind of recap so you can see

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them all in one place we thought would
be helpful. Um again I hopefully seeing

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them all at once um reiterates the point
that we've made about the overall

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massing the breaking up into public fire
support elements and using those towers

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to anchor the corners and and mimic the
existing village hall in that way.

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» And again, just this slightly different
riverwalk schemes as placeholders of

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00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:31,599
that future idea and how this terrace
space might start to relate to a future

415
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:36,320
riverwalk.
Okay. Any you want to stop and take some

416
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:38,879
questions on the overall schemes or go
all the way through?

417
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,440
» Uh, I'd say go all the way.
>> All the way through. Great.

418
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:48,119
» We'll turn it over to Yes.

419
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:55,679
» All right. Well, thank you everybody and
it's a pleasure to be here and glad to

420
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,400
meet you and I know I've worked with a
couple of you in the past on different

421
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,560
projects, but as a little introduction
again, Chris Kak with Harbor

422
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:06,800
Contractors. We're a 67y old
construction management contracting

423
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:10,720
company and public safety facilities is
probably one of our primary market

424
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,800
segments. I've been with the company for
23 years and I don't recall a time we

425
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:20,560
hadn't had an active public safety
project on at any one of those times. So

426
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:24,000
with our experience on building projects
and current projects and our historical

427
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:28,240
costs, we kind of work with the Williams
team to help pro provide some validation

428
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:32,320
of the costs and obviously are being
presented with some options and

429
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:37,040
decisions to show kind of the order of
magnitude impacts of those types of

430
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:41,599
decisions. So we'll kind of get right
into it. go backwards.

431
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:45,440
So to get right into it, again, we based
everything kind of off of the the scheme

432
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:49,599
one project with initial price and we've
got some details in the background of

433
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,599
that, but try to give some validation of
the different schemes and kind of their

434
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,400
impacts of how things move along and
change. Obviously, if you look at the

435
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,079
concepts, there are some different
things, more roof lines, more glass, and

436
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,960
more windows, and those kind of lead to
the

437
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,320
» Sure.
>> I'm sorry if I could interrupt.

438
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:10,320
Absolutely. Could you tell us what when
you say scheme one use the terminology

439
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,920
as also that so scheme one is the
dynamic?

440
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,040
» Yes.
>> Yes.

441
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,400
» Thank you.
>> Yep. The scheme one is the dynamic. And

442
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:21,440
let me see if I go back a couple here.
Where's your recap?

443
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:24,079
» Yeah. The scheme one is a dynamic.
>> Yeah.

444
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:30,160
» And the next one, scheme two, the
contextual presence. that would be or um

445
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,680
you know the a lower cost of
approximately $300,000 than the scheme

446
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:41,280
one
>> you know you get to go back to scheme

447
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:44,480
three the spatial uh context that one
you know it's basically the same cost as

448
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,280
scheme one you know I mean it shows a
small different thing and then scheme

449
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:56,440
four is the highest cost if you go again
you get additional roof lines the extra

450
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,440
canopies and all that So,

451
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:03,920
so that's the the total project budget
we came up with and and we'll get to the

452
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,079
next slide. It shows it is total project
budget escalation, contingencies, owner

453
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,599
costs and all that. You know, that's one
thing that uh you'll you'll see as we go

454
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:17,200
through. And then, you know, on top of
that, we did the riverw walk allowance

455
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:22,240
of uh additional budget of $3.5 million.
you know, the main patio function of all

456
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,920
of the options is in the base number,
but the extension of the river walks

457
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,599
going east and west, and that's kind of
an area that's kind of up for design a

458
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:32,480
little bit. And then, you know, we did
have another item of renovations to the

459
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:35,920
existing building. You know, there's
some functions that are leaving this

460
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,359
building. You know, kind of the basement
moving area. You know, we kind of that

461
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:44,320
as a placeholder of if you're going to
do something with those spaces now or

462
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:49,040
moving on.
So what I want to talk about again this

463
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:53,839
is probably a really important item of
the total project budget. Um we do this

464
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:57,200
a lot. We go through a lot of
municipalities who are you know

465
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,240
obviously you're looking what other
people have done and you hear people

466
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:04,640
talk about project costs of different
projects they've done. It's those

467
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,599
numbers are often all over the place.
Some of them include land, some of them

468
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,480
include owner costs, some of them are
just the building costs. So this

469
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:15,520
represents the total project budget. you
know, going through there. I mean, the

470
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:22,000
biggest item is the construction costs
of the 223, which is about 75% of the

471
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:26,079
total budget. Um, next biggest one is
the soft cost, the owner's cost. You

472
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,280
know, it's going to be design fees,
furniture, a lot of costs that you guys

473
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,760
have to deal with whenever you're doing
a project. You know, it's kind of

474
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,599
all-encompassing of the complete cost.
Um, you know, we have included a

475
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,800
contingency at this point. You know, the
way we put these estimates together,

476
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,400
like I said, we got a lot of experience
doing this. We've worked with Williams

477
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,160
quite a bit. We know even though these
drawings are early stages, we kind of

478
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,040
can envision what they're going to be
when they get done completing them. You

479
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,880
know, we know all the details that have
to get added. We've had conversations

480
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:58,079
with their structural engineers and work
with their civil side. So, we can kind

481
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,440
of anticipate what those things are
going to be, but you know, it's be

482
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,599
foolish at this point not to have a
contingency in there because, you know,

483
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,599
there's going to be things that move
around. And we also included an

484
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,240
escalation factor in there. You know,
anticipating this would be a 2028 start.

485
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:15,200
You know, we kind of do that on a, you
know, average continual escalation over

486
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,280
the years. You know, we don't really
factor any current little minor price

487
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,200
impacts. They usually all kind of smooth
out and just kind of go over the

488
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:30,160
historical, you know, 3 4% goes kind of
per year. So, anybody have any questions

489
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:34,640
on the total project budget?
Okay.

490
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,400
If we go to the next one, you know, um,
one of the things we do on many of the

491
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,160
projects, you know, yes, we're a
builder, but we get involved very early

492
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:47,119
on in these conceptual stages. You know,
not only to help guide those or provide

493
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:51,599
some cost validation behind those design
decisions, but as with every project,

494
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:56,320
everybody's trying to find the most
economical way to build the project. So

495
00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:01,520
we start looking at options with uh the
Williams team as they're going through

496
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:06,400
design for you know are there ways for
cost reductions. You know there's kind

497
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,359
of two major categories A and B. There's
permanent changes. You know decisions

498
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:12,960
that you'll make that you can't really
go back on you know of cutting the

499
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,040
building in half or taking off a floor
or something like that. You know major

500
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:20,960
decisions or major program changes of
reducing square footages. Those are

501
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:26,480
difficult to come back with. The next
one is bid alternates or future phases.

502
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:30,160
It's portions of a project that we can
establish when it gets to the point of

503
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:36,079
this thing goes out for trade contractor
bidding alternate pricing. They can be

504
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:39,040
either ads or deducts of hey at uh the
build out of this room. You know, they

505
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:42,880
will provide the actual pricing. That
decision can be made when you get the

506
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:47,920
real final numbers at bid time. So
that's a good strategy to, you know,

507
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,640
kind of maximize your budget and also
not, you know, get in a situation where

508
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,680
you eliminate something and go, "Oh man,
we got really good numbers. The bids

509
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,359
came in really well." You know, in 2008
the economy was a perfect timing for

510
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:02,400
bidding. And we wish we wouldn't have
made that change. It gives you those

511
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:06,560
options to have those things in there
and choose as you go. So, you know,

512
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,280
initial options, just talking, you know,
and work with the Williams teams, we

513
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,960
came up about $ three and a half million
dollars of just initial options. That's

514
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,839
kind of a first round of that. And it's
kind of a continued effort during the

515
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:21,200
design and pre-construction. You know,
the way we work with the Williams teams

516
00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:24,880
is as they're coming up with an option
or something, they won't completely

517
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:28,240
spend the time and effort fully to
design it out. They'll they'll consult

518
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:32,000
with us. We'll work with them and guide
them along the way of, hey, this is a

519
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:35,119
more economical way to do it or, you
know, here's a couple options you can

520
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:39,599
consider as you're going through the
design. But you know some of the options

521
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,200
we've investigated are you know
reduction in program spaces you know

522
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,240
those are things obviously you spent a
lot of time working on a program but you

523
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,839
know sometimes choices have to be made
and that's something to look at and you

524
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:54,319
know evaluate it and look at those as
you go through. You know the other thing

525
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,400
is build the shell and core with future
buildouts. You know, it's quite common

526
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,760
thing we do with a lot of clients where,
you know, hey, you design a portion of

527
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,400
the building, you build the entire shell
and cord, everything's there. You just

528
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,079
don't put the finishes in and it's
either funded as a separate project or

529
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:12,000
bid as an alternate or something that
could be a future phase of the project.

530
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,599
You know, the west parking lot, you
know, kind of the same thing we had in

531
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:19,440
the budget, reconstructing the west
parking lot, you know, and new paving

532
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,319
and getting that, you know, uh, cleaned
up and a little bit, you know, that

533
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,520
could be a separate project later down
the road. Um, you know, West Garage

534
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Drive, you know, we've got the
drive-thru of the garage, you know,

535
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,599
running through, you know, from east to
west with the two garage doors. Same

536
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,640
thing. That's something it could be a
bid alternate or, you know, done as a

537
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:39,760
future phase on the project. Um, you
know, reduction amount of windows, you

538
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,920
know, that's something, you know, as you
look at the different concepts, you

539
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,960
know, that's something that could be
applied to any one of these concepts.

540
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,160
You know, obviously that's one of the
more expensive items in any project is

541
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:53,440
the glass is more expensive than the
masonry. So, it's something to look at.

542
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:56,480
um alternative exterior materials. You
know, we've already worked with the

543
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Williams team on the actual structural
design of the building to kind of uh

544
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,480
bring some costs a little bit more in
line with that. But alternate materials,

545
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,599
you know, that's something, you know,
not necessarily could be a wholesale

546
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:11,520
change in materials or it could be
selective materials. And Whim's very

547
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,640
good at mixing different materials and
making it flow very well with their

548
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,880
designs, but that's something we look at
as options as we go through the project.

549
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:21,680
Um, you know, there's other things of
elimination of the ornamental stair, you

550
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:25,839
know, going to something more
traditional with than the kind of

551
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,119
grander lobby that's in there. And then,
you know, some open office space

552
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:31,760
layouts, you know, I mean, that's
something to look at a little more of a

553
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,920
different concept where you have more of
a cubicle type arrangement than offices.

554
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,599
Obviously, given the nature of this
facility, some of those things are need

555
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:44,240
to be separate, you know, separate
private offices, but it's an option to

556
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:50,160
look at. So pretty much it's it's to
provide kind of a guideline, a path of

557
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:54,800
moving forward and continually looking
at options throughout the process of

558
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:58,400
what's the most economical way to meet
your guys' vision. So that's kind of

559
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:03,920
where we provide that support and help
with that along the way. So any

560
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:10,800
questions on that cost reduction process
or thoughts?

561
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:14,160
» We'll go through uh this. Yeah, once you
guys are done, we'll we'll go through

562
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:18,760
this in more detail.
>> Absolutely. I think that's the last

563
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,760
slide.

564
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,839
» We got one.

565
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,920
» Thank you, Chris. So, um just to wrap up
and then um open everything up for

566
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:34,160
questions and for feedback. um next
steps. We certainly want to hear from

567
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,920
all of you um what you um what you're
thinking, what questions you have, what

568
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,480
preferences you have. Anything that you
want to say, don't ever show us again.

569
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:47,680
It's all um it's all on the table and
the goal is to show you a number of

570
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:52,160
options um so that we can work together
to get um to the solution that's in the

571
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:55,920
best interest of the community. So um as
we mentioned, we we'll have this

572
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:02,960
discussion tonight, answer questions you
have. We want to um if we are not if you

573
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:07,119
all coales around a particular exterior
idea that's wonderful. That is not our

574
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:12,640
expectation or our goal for this
evening. It's merely to receive

575
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:16,480
feedback. If you wish as a um village
board to sort of narrow the funnel um

576
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:22,240
for preservation
certainly um is is something you can

577
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:27,599
choose to do. Um but um our next steps
are to present this um to that group and

578
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:32,480
then to start the engagement process to
um inform the community um not only

579
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,800
about the design for this project and
the options for this project um but to

580
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:41,440
work with staff and work with all of you
around the underlying need. Why are we

581
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:46,960
doing this? Why is this necessary? Why
are we doing it now? So, um that is all

582
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:52,240
coming up in um in the coming weeks and
months, but um it's a lot of

583
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:56,160
information. Um we're doing a public
safety facility with fire and a lot of

584
00:45:54,319 --> 00:46:00,160
information sort of through a proverbial
fire hose. So, at this point, love to

585
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,400
turn it over to you for questions and
comments.

586
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:09,440
» Thank you. Um in order for us to you
know, there's a lot to digest here

587
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:14,400
obviously. uh and in order I want to
organize how we proceed with our

588
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:20,319
discussion. I have a suggestion but I
I'm open to to uh other other

589
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:27,040
considerations. I would suggest we go
through the visuals first one at a time.

590
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:34,319
Maybe we say what we like and don't like
about each one and uh then we get into

591
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,560
the cost reduction um
uh discussion because the cost reduction

592
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:44,079
applies equally more or less to all the
different options. Right. Yeah. Does

593
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:48,000
that work for the trustees?
>> So I'd like to start with the site plan

594
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,000
because I have one comment on the site
plan.

595
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,920
» Thank you.
I'll just stay right here.

596
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:02,640
» And and this relates to the cost savings
stuff, too. My

597
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:08,880
comment when I f saw this over the
weekend was, do we really need that west

598
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:12,079
drive at all? Uh, and so I asked manager
Francis that and I believe the answer

599
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:16,720
was not really.
>> No. Um, initially when we were talking

600
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:22,800
about that drive, it was when we were
conceptually thinking about having the

601
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:27,440
the fire apparatus kind of swinging
around, but that changed and evolved

602
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:32,160
over time. So that additional access
point is is not needed and actually that

603
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:37,599
will probably help free up space for a
trash enclosure

604
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:40,079
» and it could be repurp or could be used
in the future as more public space as

605
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:45,839
well.
>> Sure. It's valuable riverfront space to

606
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:50,640
have unnecessary drive
doesn't seem necessary.

607
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:55,119
» But sort of the site plan question leads
into another one of my

608
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:01,520
questions about all the schemes and that
is um for the mechanicals for the

609
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:08,480
buildings. Um you know a lot of places
put their air conditioner condensers on

610
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:13,680
the roof. I just wasn't clear on where
the intended place for that was and

611
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:17,680
whether they would be visible or somehow
enclosed.

612
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,640
» Sure. I I can I can answer that
question. And um we're we haven't

613
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:27,920
determined the um the exact mechanical
systems for the project, but um it's

614
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:32,880
very likely that we'd have something for
cooling and ventilation on the roof um

615
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:37,839
which would be fully screened. um that
lower roof over the apparatus bays is an

616
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,599
ideal place for that. Um I have not
studied your zoning ordinance in great

617
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:45,920
detail, but I'm relatively certain that
it would require screening of those

618
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:51,200
units. So um that would handle a lot of
the ventilation and cooling heating. Um

619
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:56,960
we can we can look at options indoors.
Um we do like to do these facilities um

620
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,960
with hot water heat um and then air
handling units which could be in the

621
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:04,640
basement mechanical rooms. But um we do
anticipate some degree of equipment on

622
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,559
the roof and for that equipment to be
screened.

623
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:15,599
» Are there um any of the particular
designs that would be um more amendable

624
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:19,760
to that? I mean it seems like some of
them are pretty

625
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:25,280
um flat and low.
>> Yeah, I think it's something we have to

626
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:31,520
study to be very honest. In my mind, um
the the more contemporary or the the low

627
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:37,839
slope or flat roof concepts um that have
more horizontal elements lend themselves

628
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:42,559
to um those mechanical enclosures a
little better because we could use more

629
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:48,240
horizontal elements to help with that
screening. But um if the desire of um

630
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:53,520
the village is to explore something that
has those more traditional forms, we can

631
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:58,559
find ways to to screen in in ways that
that make sense. We we work on projects

632
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:03,280
all the time where it looks like a
sloped roof building from the street and

633
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:07,599
um somewhere in the center invisible to
anybody except someone who has a drone

634
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,079
or somebody flying over. Um you've got
some accounts and stuff there.

635
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,480
» Wonderful. Thank you.
>> So I think we can work that up no matter

636
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:19,440
what. Okay. Any other questions or
comments on the site plan?

637
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,839
Is there a general agreement to
eliminate the West Drive?

638
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:30,480
» Yes.
>> Great. Um, so let's move on to the uh

639
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:35,040
dynamic
response. Was that was Yeah. So, and

640
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:41,359
before we get into that detail, I just
want to answer one question that I know

641
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:45,520
we we all have had or I've heard is uh
we're not at the stage where we could

642
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:50,000
say what we're doing to make this an
environmentally friendly building, but

643
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:54,800
we will be and it will be an
environmentally friendly building to the

644
00:50:52,160 --> 00:51:01,599
extent possible. uh meaning bird
friendly windows uh meaning uh efficient

645
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:07,200
uh utilities all the stuff that goes
into making a building sustainable. So

646
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,319
that will be a priority. It's just we're
not there yet.

647
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:18,640
So dynamic response,
what do you like or dislike about it?

648
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:23,839
» Anybody?
Aine?

649
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:30,319
» I actually like this one a lot. Um, I
really like the fact that it has, um,

650
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:36,640
some angularity to it. Um, it's
contemporary. I see, you know, in the

651
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:41,520
section that's behind the, um, Riverside
logo that there's some, uh, you know,

652
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:46,559
horizontal banding, which suggests to me
that warm wood that you sometimes see in

653
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:54,240
in contemporary glass like you were
talking about. um kind of softening or

654
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:58,319
harmonizing with materials
um you know something that is of a

655
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:04,880
different time period with its
surrounding architecture. So, um, you

656
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:10,480
know, this, uh, is very intriguing to me
and, um, you know, I'm always I always

657
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:14,240
kind of wonder a little bit about like
the pitch of the roof or is it flat?

658
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:19,920
Like, I can't exactly tell what's going
on with it, um, and how that works with

659
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:26,960
drainage and things like that, but I
really think it's a um, very energetic

660
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:33,200
and dynamic building. So, congrats on
the initial concept. Um, I'm not sure

661
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:39,440
about the Riverwalk. Um, you know,
having that be straight

662
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:46,640
as straight as it is. I mean, that's
very very angular. Um, but in general, I

663
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:52,559
think uh there's a lot of positive
things to be said about this one.

664
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:58,559
» I completely agree with you.
>> All right. So, there you go. Um, when I

665
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:04,000
look at all four of them,
the this first one is the one that I

666
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:09,040
actually had an emotional response to. I
actually felt like architecture is such

667
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:13,520
a big deal in Riverside and we have so
many different architectural styles

668
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:18,400
incorporated
and

669
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:24,480
this to me is a visually interesting
building that doesn't try and blend in.

670
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:28,800
It doesn't it's in it in itself
It is interesting.

671
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:33,920
I also feel like um I worked on a
college campus for over a decade and

672
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:38,240
obviously there were always we were
always building and every time we tried

673
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:43,200
to build something that looked a lot
like something else, it was never

674
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:50,160
received well because it never looked
enough like it and it never it was

675
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:54,720
trying to be something else. And one of
the things I really like about this is

676
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:58,640
it's not trying to be like the building
that's directly next to it, which is

677
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:02,240
something that is awesome in Riverside
that you can have two houses. You can

678
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:09,520
have a Victorian right next to a
Franklidd Wright, right next to a

679
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:14,640
bungalow. And so I really liked
the way that the lines kind of called to

680
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:21,359
the building next to it and were
cohesive with it, but it was its own

681
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:25,359
building. it was its own design. Um,
that was really, like I said, this is

682
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:29,680
the only one I actually had a response
to. The rest of them I was like, well,

683
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:33,599
these are fine. Um, the other thing I
love about this one is I love all the

684
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:38,160
glass and I feel like if you are inside
this building, you're going to get a ton

685
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:44,559
of natural light and feel much more like
you're in nature. Um, way more so than,

686
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,559
you know, it was we were talking with
the last scheme where the openings were

687
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:53,599
smaller and stuff. I really felt like
this would feel much more connected to

688
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:59,000
the river and the forest that's around
it more so than some of the other

689
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
designs.

690
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:09,760
» Any other comments on this?
>> I have a question. So, it looks like the

691
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:13,440
the the roof on scheme one it's pitched.
Is it does it go like this or is it

692
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:16,559
straight across the top?
>> I mean it it will have a pitch to drink

693
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,960
water.
>> There are number of way that we handle

694
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:26,319
that. Um and and even with the p pitched
roof beyond that fascia element that is

695
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:31,119
the large horizontal band, you know,
would stay flat.

696
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:35,119
» So um it may be a little bit of optical
illusion with the way that it bends

697
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:39,280
around the turret. It does kind of look
as though it's peeking up, but the

698
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,119
intent is that it be a really strong
horizontal band of facial all the way

699
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:47,400
around the building. And that movement
is more in plan view.

700
00:55:50,960 --> 00:56:01,119
Uh, I'm happy to provide my my thoughts.
Um, initially this wasn't my favorite,

701
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:07,119
although I liked it. I still like it.
Uh, Trusty Marsha and Trusty Cost may

702
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:12,559
convince me that it's the favorite. But
what I do like about it a lot is all the

703
00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:19,280
glass on the front side. Mhm.
>> I mean, I think that is

704
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:26,160
it's symbolic of transparency. Uh, it
connects it to the exterior.

705
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:32,960
Um, I I really like that part of it. I
like the horizontal lines. I like the uh

706
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:38,079
small thing, but I really like the sign
freeze above the garage doors, the

707
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:43,200
opportunity to have that branding there,
that Riverside Public Safety Center. Um,

708
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:47,839
I realize you could do that in other
ways on other elevations, but on this

709
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:53,440
one it's got a nice perfect It's like
it's designed to have that. It would

710
00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:59,440
look empty without the sign on it.
Um what I am hesitant about with it is

711
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:06,160
the blank wall that we're looking at
right now where the uh uh you know on

712
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:14,799
the left side of the the the bays and
then on the back side.

713
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:19,119
Um yes I like that. Okay. Initially I
thought there was too much blank walls

714
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:22,319
but maybe maybe not. Maybe not.
>> Sorry.

715
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,839
um or that from that perspective it made
me feel like there were too many blank

716
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:30,119
walls.
Um but

717
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:39,119
those were my thoughts. Does anyone else
want to weigh in?

718
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:44,480
We'll go on to the Go ahead.
>> Um I like all of them. I think we all do

719
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:49,200
great work on it and I like how the
facade is broken up. For me, this design

720
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,720
doesn't break it up enough. And I know
that's intentional to take that straight

721
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:56,960
line all the way across the main part of
the building.

722
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Just my personal preference. I don't
care for that.

723
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:09,839
» Uh I would just like to say your
emphasis on the windows in the back just

724
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:15,359
because that's the that's overlooking
the river which is our most important.

725
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,960
say that one of the comments on this
scheme in particular that

726
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:23,440
» Can you go to the podium please?
>> Sorry just one of the comments on this

727
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:28,319
scheme from the group about the glass
from the riverside was a concern for

728
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:32,960
vandalism. They do get a there are as we
were having this discussion walking

729
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:36,799
through broken windows facing the river.
And so from a practical standpoint, we

730
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:42,000
wanted to again show a variety of
options um if more glazing for views and

731
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:46,880
and that's why in this scheme we did
really try to focus in on where are

732
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:50,960
people um occupying the space for long
periods of time and having views from

733
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:55,920
the living spaces, the apparatus bay at
the lower level that's more prone to

734
00:58:52,799 --> 00:59:00,799
damage from both inside and out. Um and
then focusing the glass more on the

735
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:06,799
community space where it will have the
views. But um as mentioned uh any of

736
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:11,040
these comments about where you do or
don't want more glass, you know, we can

737
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:14,480
translate those comments easily to any
of the schemes.

738
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:20,000
» Are they designed as all windows or is
it just a sort of a strip of windows?

739
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,839
» I mean typically when we have a large
expansive glass like this, it will

740
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:27,280
either be a curtain wall system or a
storefront system. So it's not all

741
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:32,319
operable if that's what So we would
design certain amount of actual

742
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:36,960
ventilation open windows that can open
within that system, but it would not all

743
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,119
be operable if that's
>> You mean open and close?

744
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:43,200
» Yes. Sorry.
>> No, I wasn't really thinking about that.

745
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:47,200
I just wanted to know how big the
windows are. It looks like there's only

746
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:51,440
a strip of windows, not the whole space,
the whole area of the squares.

747
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:56,160
» I see. I think you're seeing the ceiling
going through and so that looks solid.

748
00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:02,240
Yes. Yeah, I see what you're saying now.
>> So, uh that is ceiling beyond.

749
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:07,760
» I see it. And then actually in this
space, if you're in the this is the

750
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:13,200
dining room, um there are glass there
are windows um looking over the

751
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:17,599
apparatus bay on the other side. So, and
there's also windows lower looking from

752
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:22,079
that space into the apparatus bay. So, I
think you're actually seeing I'm going

753
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:28,480
to go the other way.
Nope, wrong way.

754
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:32,880
These windows showing through
>> from the back view is what is kind of

755
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:38,920
throwing off that view of the glass.
Thank you for

756
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:38,920
pointing that out.

757
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:47,440
» Also, I just want to mention where you
see the most windows are the public

758
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:51,920
spaces because that was staff's focus as
we met with Williams.

759
01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:58,000
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to have
windows. I don't I mean, it'd be cool to

760
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:03,440
have textual design, textual
architecture design in the bottom part

761
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:07,280
where the bay is, but it doesn't make
sense to have windows there because

762
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:11,680
that's where all the trucks are and
stuff like that. You know, like you

763
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:15,440
said, they can get damaged that that's
not a great spot for I mean, as much as

764
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:19,200
I would love it, there's not a lot to
see and there's not a lot of people

765
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:23,920
looking even from inside. There aren't
people looking outside.

766
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:28,000
» Yeah, it it may be that the selection of
exterior materials will

767
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:31,000
» impact this view a lot.
>> Yeah.

768
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:37,200
» As well as the landscape and ramp
design, you know, other things that we

769
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:42,799
use to fill it to fill in that lower
space. Um there's opportunities both for

770
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:48,799
landscaping and material change to make
sure that's not a large blank facade.

771
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,640
Any
other comments on this one?

772
01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:57,640
» So, let's uh talk about number two,
contextual.

773
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:06,400
» Sorry,
they're really small on my screen.

774
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,880
So, I'm seeing a lot of the same shapes
roughly.

775
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:13,480
» There you go.
>> That's where we go.

776
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,119
There we go. Contextual

777
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,400
» justice.

778
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:36,160
» This is my favorite one. Again, I like
how it's broken up. I like this there's

779
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:39,720
a lot of vertical lines to it. And of
course, the windows.

780
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,920
I like this one less because I liked the
horizontality of the other one and I

781
01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:54,720
feel like the columns here are
distracting in a way um that they're

782
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:59,440
just
>> they're kind of like

783
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:05,359
added
just so we could have columns and I

784
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:10,200
don't it doesn't speak to the it doesn't
really speak to function for me. So,

785
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:19,520
» I have a question about the the entry,
the main entry. Is it a triangle in

786
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:25,359
between the two buildings?
Is it smaller?

787
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,880
What is the shape of the lobby?
>> Where the truck is. Are you talking

788
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:32,240
about? Yeah.
>> Oh, okay.

789
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:37,920
» So, just as a reminder, I'll opine and
then Williams can fill in the gaps. So,

790
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:42,960
we're going to be taking down where
basically the fire trucks are, right?

791
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:48,079
Because that was an old addition. Um,
all the fire equipment and then you have

792
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:52,640
offices currently on the outside of
that. So, all of that would be removed.

793
01:03:50,400 --> 01:04:00,000
So, what you're seeing in creating that
connection are is the connection to the

794
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:08,640
historic building which occupies where
uh our front desk is. Um it also has uh

795
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:12,799
different areas as it relates to police
uh other like copier equipment, those

796
01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:17,920
types of things. And so it's kind of
mirroring the existing building,

797
01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:22,559
creating that lobby connection to then
the the new building. So it would be

798
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:29,720
somewhat triangular, but it it'll be
open as it's kind of illustrated there.

799
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:29,720
Does that make sense? Okay.

800
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:47,640
What I liked about this one was the the
roof line, the cornice line.

801
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,640
Um,

802
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:56,799
you know,
puts a definitive

803
01:04:52,559 --> 01:05:01,520
end on the height of the building. Um,
which probably, you know, gives it a

804
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:07,119
little bit better relationship to the to
the town hall building.

805
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:14,359
Um,
the uh turrets or the columns, if you'll

806
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,359
go back to that,

807
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:22,960
that corner piece on the left has
windows. It has it has a cap. It's like

808
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:28,319
a traditional Roman column or whatever.
I think it'd be an ionic column.

809
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,039
Um,
or Doric.

810
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:34,240
» Doric is the one with the swirls at the
top.

811
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:38,640
» Ionic. Ionic has the it has the curls.
Corinthian has the

812
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,720
» leaves. Right.
>> So, it's Doric. Ionic.

813
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:46,400
» Corinthian.
>> Doric. The simplest.

814
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:51,480
» Please tell me you got that on tape.
Please tell me some of you that was all

815
01:05:53,200 --> 01:06:02,400
» my work is done.
>> Um

816
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:09,760
I I like the backside of this one.
Um but quite honestly equally I I like

817
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:13,359
that it's cost less.
Um,

818
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:19,119
I mean that's not a deal. That's, you
know, it's doesn't cost enough less

819
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:26,599
to where if I, you know, didn't like it,
I'd do it. But, um, but that's a plus in

820
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:26,599
its column.

821
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:36,480
» I I mean, I I I like this one. I feel
like it's But I feel like it's fine.

822
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:41,200
» It's not as exciting.
>> That's how I feel. It's fine.

823
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:47,039
» It's not as risky, not as exciting.
>> Yeah. And I feel like we're such an

824
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:51,200
architectural village, right? It's
architecture is so important to so many

825
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:56,559
people in this village that having
something that's just kind of

826
01:06:52,960 --> 01:07:01,680
» fine or like, you know,
I'm I'm not I don't want to offend

827
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:05,760
anybody. I'm really sorry, but like it
looks like a lovely strip mall or like a

828
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:10,880
I mean like a really lovely one. Not
like your gross corn, you know, but like

829
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:15,680
it looks it's like a lovely strip mall
kind of thing and I don't feel like it

830
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,240
has the like wow.
>> Yeah.

831
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:25,200
Okay.
>> Any other comments on this one?

832
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:29,640
» I agree with Trustee Cos.
We are never like this. This is awesome.

833
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Well, let's uh move on to number three.
Spatial framing

834
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:45,720
» to me. This one's similar to the first
one. Not the same, but has a lot of

835
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,720
similarities.

836
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,680
» The lines are a little bit more broken
up.

837
01:07:54,799 --> 01:08:03,520
» Any other comments on this one or
You said that it was um a craftsman

838
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:07,599
style.
>> That was the windows

839
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:10,720
» two
more.

840
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,640
» I'm sorry. Two and four.
>> Oh, okay.

841
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,560
» Two and four.
>> This is a little more modern in the

842
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:20,560
same.
>> Can you go to the microphone, please?

843
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:23,440
» I can't pick it up for our audio if it's
not on the mic. I apologize. I

844
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:27,920
apologize.
Um, anyone can answer these questions

845
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:34,080
for our team, but um, yeah, this one has
a little bit more of a modern references

846
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:38,159
in the framing lines, whereas op scheme
um, two and four did have some what we

847
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:45,040
would consider more traditional
Craftsman detailing with um, the deep

848
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:49,279
overhangs and the um, the detailing of
kind of the outriggers supporting that

849
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:55,040
roof line.
But, you know, that can be accentuated

850
01:08:51,120 --> 01:09:01,520
or or not in terms of the detailing of
the building. So,

851
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:09,359
this one seems just too modern.
I don't know if it would look

852
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:13,480
as nice next to the township building.
Looks very modern to me.

853
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,319
» A little too busy and distracting.
>> Yeah.

854
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:30,480
I wasn't too I wasn't didn't didn't
really like the uh if you'll go to that

855
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:37,560
the backside perspective.
>> Yeah. Well, no, not that one. What the

856
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,560
the swinging bridge side?

857
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:45,120
» This one.
>> That's good. That's good.

858
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:49,759
the the framing of the columns on the
edges at the corners and the framing of

859
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:58,360
the window bays
seemed to me to be not natural.

860
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Something like that. Not organic.

861
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:04,800
» Interesting.
>> Um,

862
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:11,280
so
speak for myself, either one or two I'd

863
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:15,960
prefer over this one.
Does anybody feel any differently from

864
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,960
that?

865
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,239
» Good. We can move on to number four.

866
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:32,520
» Traditional anchoring. This is the most
expensive one, right?

867
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:43,400
» And that's I'm guessing because of the
roof almost entirely, if not entirely,

868
01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:43,400
» which I did like the roof. this one.

869
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:54,640
» Others comments.
>> Uh, this is my least favorite one. Uh,

870
01:10:52,239 --> 01:11:00,239
again, I'm sorry, Alex, but I don't love
the roof. Um, I also don't love that the

871
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:06,159
windows are are smaller and choppier. I
like seeing the expanse of windows.

872
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:09,920
I think it's
Yeah, I I I just think it's more

873
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:14,800
interesting.
with the expansive windows. And I I

874
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:19,760
don't know.
Yeah. Again, I worry what I worry about

875
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:23,920
with this one is that it's gonna look
like that. We tried really hard to make

876
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:27,600
it sort of look like the building that's
next to it, but it doesn't really look

877
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,679
like the building that's next to it. And
that people are going to be like, "We

878
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:37,199
tried, but we didn't." And it's going to
look not right.

879
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:42,880
Not that you wouldn't do a fantastic job
on it, but

880
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:48,560
» but you're you're absolutely correct,
trusty cause, and you've commented

881
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:52,960
before. I think historic preservation
preservationists would say the same

882
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:58,320
thing. Don't try to look just like the
other building.

883
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Be respectful of the other building, but
don't try to copy it.

884
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:07,199
» Exactly.
That's a fine line. I know. But

885
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,960
» no, no, no. You're right. Because I can
understand if if you did have the same

886
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:14,560
shingles on both buildings, then you are
trying to mimic it. After two different

887
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:19,679
ones, it still wouldn't compliment it
quite well. At number one, it does have

888
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:23,360
a very nice complimentary horizontal
line.

889
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:28,480
It does pay some homage to it as well.
So, um, while I was impressed with this

890
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:33,440
one, it's not my favorite. I would think
number one, probably the best one.

891
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:43,440
So, given what I'm hearing, does this
rise above one or two for anybody?

892
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:51,280
» Good. But we're down to two.
Um, and I would suggest

893
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:56,400
that uh we send those two to to our
preservation commission

894
01:12:53,600 --> 01:13:02,560
saying here's what
we like and ask for their feedback.

895
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,120
Emily, can you put the four up again?
>> Yeah.

896
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:08,239
» Thank you.
>> Yeah, this is four.

897
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:14,120
» No, four.
>> All four. Sorry.

898
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,120
» Page 175.

899
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:30,159
» I think that's a good suggestion.
So that's the plan based on the board's

900
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:37,159
discussion is the next step is the April
9th preservation meeting that we would

901
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,159
solicit additional feedback

902
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:42,880
» and want to send one and two to them. Is
that what we're doing?

903
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:45,199
» Mhm.
>> What's that?

904
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,880
» We're going to send schemes one and two.
>> Yes.

905
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,640
» Okay.
Well, I mean they can look at all four

906
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,840
of them because this is on our website,
but

907
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:57,280
» yeah,
>> the direction would be the village board

908
01:13:54,239 --> 01:14:01,199
is asking for their response to one or
two. If

909
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:05,840
they like if they have comments about
three or four, I wouldn't stop them from

910
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:07,280
commenting, but
>> you know,

911
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,280
» free speech and all.
>> Yeah.

912
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:18,960
So, let's uh let's next go to the cost
reduction page.

913
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,800
Wait, could we just say one more thing
about scheme one?

914
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:28,400
» Yeah.
>> So, I think your feedback was that the

915
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:32,480
the side the east facing side was too
plain.

916
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:36,640
» Well, it's more that
that blank column that faces the street.

917
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:41,199
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, it's the doors just that one

918
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:44,719
column.
And maybe it maybe it makes sense and

919
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:48,400
maybe again it's with the right
materials it's fine.

920
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:51,679
» Um
>> or open to suggestions on that one.

921
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:57,480
» Yeah.
>> Or

922
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,480
» could you just maybe do something to it?

923
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,719
» It's a stair.
>> So

924
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:05,040
» stairway. Yeah.
>> Which you I mean like Kristen said you

925
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,640
could do architectural elements. You you
know there's you could do I was kind of

926
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:13,520
thinking in the blank spaces they
wouldn't necess In all of these games,

927
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:17,920
they wouldn't necessarily be blank. They
would they're just blank slates. I don't

928
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,880
know. Maybe I'm
>> be a contrasting panel of some kind.

929
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,640
Right.
>> Well, and I also just wanted to remind

930
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,679
everybody as well like some of the
elements could be interchange. So, one

931
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:31,920
thing that came to my mind there was
signage potentially like we showed

932
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:35,440
there's that area adjacent to the entry
which kind of makes sense for a good

933
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:40,080
signage location, but there's all like
that could be an opportunity for for

934
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:43,840
signage. Um, but absolutely like there's
still opportunity to articulate it with

935
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:48,320
windows. I recall in this scheme, I
think the way that that stair gets its

936
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:52,400
light is that we had like a narrow slit
window on the side that's not really

937
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,920
visible, but as some of the other
examples showed, that's a great

938
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:59,040
opportunity to do like a linear slit
window that would let light into the

939
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:01,920
stairs. So, yeah, there's definitely
ways that that could be further

940
01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:04,920
developed.
>> Cool.

941
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:14,520
Okay.
>> Anything else on the elevations?

942
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,520
» Let's uh go to that cost reduction page.

943
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:27,800
» Go Emily. Go. Go Emily. Go. You can do
it.

944
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,760
» I'm glad she was doing that. I would be
panicking.

945
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:38,560
would be like I can't find.
>> We also have broken out slides for the

946
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:43,360
cost estimates too that kind of depict
more if you need more visual.

947
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:47,520
» So there there was another page though
that had the list

948
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,199
of that.
>> Yeah.

949
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:57,360
» Yeah.
>> So let's go through that. Uh reduction

950
01:16:53,199 --> 01:17:02,239
in program spaces that just means making
the building smaller, right?

951
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,280
I don't think we want to do that.
>> No.

952
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:09,520
» No.
>> I mean, yeah.

953
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:11,120
Uh, build shell and core for future.
Uh,

954
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:14,480
» no.
>> That just means spending money later

955
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:18,800
than rather than
>> more expensive.

956
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:23,679
» And if we're going to referendum,
you know, I feel like we should be

957
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:27,040
honest and say this is what it costs and
>> yeah,

958
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:33,679
» just how much money we need.
Um, we talked about the west driveway

959
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:37,159
and I think we agreed that we would
eliminate that.

960
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:46,239
» Uh, we talked a lot about windows and if
anything we wanted more windows

961
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:51,280
so that one's out. And then yeah,
exterior materials that's for a future

962
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:55,040
discussion. Correct. We can decide what
you at some point we'll see what the

963
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:58,719
different materials cost and what the
savings are

964
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:03,199
» uh in that
>> the elimination of ornamental stair I'm

965
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:08,480
guessing trustees don't have an opinion
until you see the difference between

966
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,600
» the ornamental and non-orthnamental
right

967
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,920
» and how much we save or don't save
>> so that is that the difference more or

968
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:21,280
less
>> this more of an open stair I can let

969
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:24,560
» Yeah. So, um, ornamental and open stairs
we kind of use interchangeably. So,

970
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,920
these are some more contemporary
examples, especially if you're, um,

971
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:35,280
tending in the direction of our schemes
one or two. Um, this kind of expression

972
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:39,679
where the stairs and railings are a
little little bit more contemporary,

973
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:45,600
open to the rest of the space. Um
whereas if you um um if we're looking at

974
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:51,280
a clo an enclosed stair or what we would
normally consider an egress stair, yes,

975
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:56,640
we can do some glass. Um so there there
is um a measure of transparency, but um

976
01:18:54,400 --> 01:19:01,600
just not as nice, you know, um more of
what we would think of um as an enclosed

977
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:07,120
exit stair like you have right at the
front um of the building here. So there

978
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:14,239
is obviously a cost difference um
between those two. Um but um it it's one

979
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:19,920
way among many to um save a few dollars
if you're so inclined.

980
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:23,199
» I can only speak for myself. I'm not so
inclined.

981
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:28,239
» Yeah, I'm not either.
>> Yeah, those that first two pictures is

982
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,320
beautiful. That's you know that's our
public space,

983
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:34,880
» right? If
>> you'll go back to the previous one.

984
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,880
Yeah.
>> Yeah.

985
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:47,280
» No, the other stair one.
>> Oh,

986
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,320
» that's the enclosed.
>> The other stair.

987
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,560
» Pretty one.
>> Pretty one.

988
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,960
» Yeah. No, that's
>> that's nice.

989
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:58,880
» That one on the left. That's what I want
our

990
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:03,920
primary village space to look like.
>> Yeah.

991
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:07,120
Gate uh the Gateley Park Fieldhouse in
um on the far south side of Chicago if

992
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,080
anybody's interested one of our
projects.

993
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,679
» Well done.
>> Yes.

994
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:19,360
» What is in the space underneath the uh
staircase?

995
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:25,760
» Great great question. Um so um whenever
we have a stair um where you have open

996
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:30,640
space underneath um we can't essentially
we can't let somebody underneath it

997
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:34,239
until the head room is at least 6'8. So
we need a way to block off those lower

998
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,840
areas
>> um so we're not bumping our heads up

999
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:42,480
against something. And in this
particular project, they just decided to

1000
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:46,080
enclose that with a little bit of a um a
low wall that people could sit on as

1001
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:50,719
they're in the lobby.
Depending on how we would articulate the

1002
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:56,000
stair, um we may not end up having that
condition at all where we'd have to

1003
01:20:52,239 --> 01:21:01,520
close close that off.
>> We just had a moment. I just saw a um an

1004
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:07,520
open staircase with an enclosure like
that that had seating on the outside,

1005
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:11,840
but it had a lyken garden. on the inside
of it which is like extremely

1006
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:17,360
lowmaintenance and it was installed in
this really artistic pattern and I can

1007
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:21,280
show you photos and it was cool and that
would be a really neat um

1008
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:26,640
» absolutely
>> I feel like that doesn't fall into the

1009
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:30,880
cost savings you know but you know you
and I yeah I think it's right there

1010
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:34,480
» be an LC project
>> once in a while

1011
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:39,199
» love it sustainability
>> there y So there was one more item on

1012
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:45,600
that list of co potential cost
reductions I think.

1013
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:49,760
» Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not interested in
open office space layouts

1014
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:55,920
» and I you know that was a trend for a
long time and I'm sure you guys can can

1015
01:21:53,199 --> 01:22:02,080
can have have an opinion on that. From
everything I've read open office space

1016
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:07,679
makes people less productive.
I I've read articles to that. I

1017
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:10,000
Yeah, because of the distractions, I
guess. But

1018
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:15,040
» well, and I think we're building this
for public safety and for I mean,

1019
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:18,320
» primarily we want this to be
>> people make sure

1020
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:22,960
» Yeah, we want to be nice. Yeah, that's
that's the those are the spaces that I

1021
01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:24,719
least want to
>> No one wants a cube

1022
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:30,639
» cut, right?
>> We don't want cubes.

1023
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:35,600
» Yeah, cubes are no fun for anyone.
Okay,

1024
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:41,440
» I have intentionally been quiet for the
time being. I'm not pretending I am a

1025
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:46,400
design expert on anything. Uh Chris can
attest to this though I've been through

1026
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:52,080
this before um with with a project
similar actually bigger in size uh with

1027
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:57,679
with the public safety thing. And uh I
just want to say first off from my

1028
01:22:54,639 --> 01:23:02,800
perspective uh the site design was the
most important thing operationally uh

1029
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:06,560
administratively it was staff driven in
regards to the layouts of everything. So

1030
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:12,800
I think that's the most important thing
as long as the designs whether it's one

1031
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:18,159
through four at any point does not um
interfere with any of the operations or

1032
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:23,600
with the public engagement. I think I'm
fine with that. If you had to ask me for

1033
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,560
any type of um design element, I would
say make the walkways curvy.

1034
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:28,480
» That's
>> meandering. We like to call it

1035
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,080
meandering.
>> Meandering. Um

1036
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,400
» please.
>> I think you guys you did a great job.

1037
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,480
» Yeah.
>> With with with the layout um for the

1038
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:41,600
site because I'm more operational on it.
Um and I would defer to the board and

1039
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:48,159
preservation for for their direction as
well.

1040
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:52,239
» Thank you. Anything else?
>> Very good. Thank you. Well,

1041
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:57,520
» thank you all for such um thoughtful
commentary, honest commentary. Um it's

1042
01:23:55,440 --> 01:24:01,120
important for us to hear what you like
and what you don't like because that

1043
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:07,920
helps us get to the best possible
solution. Um I also want to thank um our

1044
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:12,719
entire team in addition to um our um
Riverside resident Joe and Kim. There's

1045
01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:17,600
another team of folks behind this effort
um at at our office that has really um

1046
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:22,080
poured their heart and soul into this.
This is a really exciting project for us

1047
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,840
to be a part of and we're really looking
forward to next steps. So, thank you

1048
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,560
very much.
>> Thank you.

1049
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:27,360
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1050
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:31,199
» We're we're gonna talk about a potential
referendum now. So, you might want to

1051
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:35,360
stick around and listen to this.
>> How we pay for it

1052
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:43,600
» because that sounds super fun, right?
>> So, yes. Next on the agenda is

1053
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:47,520
discussion of regarding public safety
facility referendum.

1054
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:54,400
Manager Francis,
>> thank you. Um, so as we embarked on this

1055
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:59,440
journey back in November of 2024, it was
discussed that to bring this facility to

1056
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:03,600
fruition, we would have to do a
referendum. We just didn't have the

1057
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:09,760
capacity to look at alternative ways, no
matter how creative we are as a team.

1058
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:16,719
You know, that that's a heavy lift. And
so, um, as part of the discussion, we

1059
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:21,199
did reach out to Spear Financial, who is
the village's financial advisor, who

1060
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:26,159
we've worked with in the past to issue
debt. Um, and so they provided us some

1061
01:25:24,639 --> 01:25:32,320
scenarios
relative to how much debt the village

1062
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:38,320
could issue. Now, debt is dictated on
the village's equalized assessed value,

1063
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:44,320
and you'll see up there. So, um, tells
you what the formula is for our limited

1064
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:49,440
for our tax our debt limitation. Um,
currently our general obligation bonds

1065
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:54,480
is 1.9 million. That's our limited tax
debt that we issued a couple of years

1066
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:59,920
ago. And so, you deduct that and say how
much is left for you to issue as debt.

1067
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:07,120
Now, as our equalized assessed value
continues to grow, so example, once the

1068
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:11,280
PUD is built, that will go up. Um
typically every year your equalized

1069
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:15,840
assessed value as a village continues to
increase based on improvements and

1070
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:23,199
reinvestment in the community. Um so
that number that 34.9 million won't

1071
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:26,400
remain static presumably you know if
staff and the village is doing

1072
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:33,440
everything right that number will
continue to go up in future years. So

1073
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:40,080
with that being said, we asked Spear to
provide us some examples. Um, and this

1074
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:45,679
was be obviously when we had some ranges
and Harbors provided a little bit more

1075
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:51,440
concrete numbers. So we did a max of an
issuance amount of 28 million it over 20

1076
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:56,960
years. That's the maximum time frame in
which we can do. And then it would show

1077
01:26:53,840 --> 01:27:01,840
the financial impact on typical ho
households based on the market value of

1078
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:08,400
the home. And so it's broken out on
annual cost versus monthly costs. Um

1079
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:13,360
obviously if we were to increase that we
would to 29 million you would see an

1080
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:17,520
incremental increase. Um and we will
certainly get that for the board. We

1081
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:22,639
weren't sure what was going to be cut or
how this discussion was going to where

1082
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:29,040
it was going to go as it relates to size
and other eliminations, but we do have

1083
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:35,679
the capacity to increase that issuance
amount. Um, now all of these are based

1084
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:42,080
on certain percentages, 4% interest.
We're double A+ bond rated community, so

1085
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:48,480
we're not quite at that triple
AAA bonding. Um but so we're receiving a

1086
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:53,920
much lower rate than other communities
that don't have sound financial

1087
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:57,840
practices, procedures, policies, etc. So
we benefit in that respect. And so there

1088
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:02,239
are times even when you go for an
issuance amount. Let's say we went for

1089
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:06,560
28 million, but then there's I don't
want to get too far in the weeds, but we

1090
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:11,199
get a really good interest rate and it's
less and we get a good discount rate. It

1091
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:17,600
could actually be more than 28 million
that's issued to us.

1092
01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:25,760
Um, and so that's where those numbers
look like for that. And so part of the

1093
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:30,639
initial discussion is do you you don't
want to ex you don't want to come up

1094
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:35,280
against the maximum amount of your debt
limit, right? Because there could be a

1095
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:39,520
need to issue debt to do an additional
referendum in the future. And so you

1096
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:43,360
always want to keep that that buffer,
right?

1097
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:49,600
you are also paying off debt year after
year too as it relates to you know when

1098
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:54,880
I like to manifest when the referendum
is approved by our residents um that

1099
01:28:52,960 --> 01:29:00,000
number would slowly go down and our debt
capacity would continue to to increase.

1100
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:05,280
Um that isn't to say that we want to
utilize all that debt capacity.

1101
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:11,360
Obviously we are very much below um even
the halfway point of our debt capacity.

1102
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:16,480
We're actually less than 1% of our
maximum capacity. So, um I'm sorry, less

1103
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:23,040
than 10%.
So, all those being equal, you'll see

1104
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:28,000
kind of the different breakdown of that.
Are there any questions relative to

1105
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:31,920
that?
>> If somebody is at home watching this and

1106
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:36,639
can't really read that type, do you want
to give some examples?

1107
01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:42,480
» Sure. No potential examples. So for the
$28 million issuance, I would say on

1108
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:47,600
average a typical household in Riverside
is valued at $500,000.

1109
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:54,239
And so you would look at an annual cost
increase of $720.32

1110
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:57,120
and what that looks like monthly is
$60.3

1111
01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:01,440
per month.
>> Thank you.

1112
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:06,639
» You're welcome. Thank you.
And once again, that's subject to

1113
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:13,199
somewhat change. Another example is if
our EAV continues to increase, then that

1114
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:18,400
impact per household then gets
redistributed too. Similar with with

1115
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:22,719
property tax. Um, if we have new
developments,

1116
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:26,639
the spread of that property tax burden
gets redistributed.

1117
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:30,719
» And so that in impact could be slightly
different. I don't want to say it would

1118
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:35,000
be substantially different but uh just
to provide a little bit of context.

1119
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:43,199
» Very good. And
>> so we will uh we don't have to uh file

1120
01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:46,800
the referendum question till late in the
year. Right.

1121
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:52,159
» Correct. So we we'll start the process
later this year and interally.

1122
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:58,080
» And from my understanding the referendum
question can be a little bit more direct

1123
01:30:54,080 --> 01:31:04,000
than the last one. Oh yes, 100%.
>> I could basically just say, you know, do

1124
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:07,520
you approve of the village borrowing
this amount of money for a public safety

1125
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:11,120
facility more or less
>> and to equip the public safety

1126
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:13,920
» to equip Yeah. Yeah. So
>> So which election? The presidential

1127
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:18,320
election?
>> No, it would be

1128
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,679
» uh April of 2027.
>> Consolidated.

1129
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,000
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1130
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:27,520
» Yeah.
So, I know the trustees know this, but

1131
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:33,679
I'm and I've said this to you before,
but I'm going to say it again and again

1132
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:37,760
and again and again. Um,
this is the most important thing any of

1133
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:41,520
us will do as an elected official in
this village.

1134
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:46,400
Um,
our number one obligation is public

1135
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:52,400
safety
and to maintain that the the great level

1136
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:59,360
of public safety this village has always
had, our first responders need

1137
01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:05,440
facilities that are appropriate and
support a top-notch

1138
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:12,960
police and fire public safety uh
department. So, uh, it is incumbent upon

1139
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:20,000
all of us to do everything we can to
educate the public about this.

1140
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:26,800
Um, and we'll be working on educational
information and strategies.

1141
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:30,719
Um, and that will come soon. Uh, but I
would say it's not too early to start

1142
01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:35,520
talking to your neighbors, make people
aware of this.

1143
01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:40,480
Um because I
strongly believe that if people

1144
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:42,480
understand the need for this, it will be
approved. Uh

1145
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:48,320
» I agree.
>> Riverside residents

1146
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:57,400
value our police and fire departments
uh and they know that uh they have to

1147
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:57,400
they have to support them financially.

1148
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:04,000
» With that, any other questions,
comments? M manager Francis, did you

1149
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:09,440
have some additional comments?
>> Um, so with regard to community

1150
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:16,400
engagement, Williams Architects also has
built in um some future community

1151
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:21,280
engagements. Um, one being creating an
open house to solicit feedback on the

1152
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:25,679
different design, see what additional
feedback residents have, bring that back

1153
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:29,600
to the village board. Um, and then they
would also do a second round of

1154
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:34,719
community engagement. Right now, we have
tentatively in our schedule July of

1155
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:39,840
2026, but that could be subject to
change because obviously going from that

1156
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:44,960
second engagement period to April of the
following year for the election, I don't

1157
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:51,360
know that if we want that long of a time
span to occur with not that the board

1158
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:55,520
and staff wouldn't push out additional
education and answer questions and do

1159
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:59,520
open houses, but that may be something
that we would look to the board to have

1160
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:04,480
further discussion. and and work with
Williams to maybe change that timeline

1161
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:09,120
for that second engagement piece. Um,
additionally, um, there there would be

1162
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:13,520
subsequent presentations to the village
board. Once we have the community, the

1163
01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:18,400
initial community engagement and the
openhouse, feedback from preservation,

1164
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:23,440
modifications to the design, then
Williams will be firming up their

1165
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:30,080
designs further to get closer to what
some what this building will look like.

1166
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:33,840
Um so in the past I also wanted to make
a note how we handled community

1167
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:38,000
engagement when we were having
referendums right we've always had the

1168
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:44,159
discussion that we can educate we cannot
advocate um as staff village resources

1169
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:47,840
cannot be put towards advocating a
resident calls us and asks questions we

1170
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:53,679
can ask answer those questions if a
resident calls and asks us how should I

1171
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:59,120
vote we can't answer that question um in
the past what we have done is we've

1172
01:34:55,600 --> 01:35:05,199
created postcards and redirected uh
residents to a main landing page on the

1173
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:09,840
website. We've done engagement. Both
village board members and staff have

1174
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:13,920
been present present at different
community events, whether it's the

1175
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:20,480
farmers market or other events. We've
created videos from Riverside TV to to

1176
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:27,040
outline the different items and issues,
answer questions. Additionally, what um

1177
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:32,080
staff has put together and flagged as
additional opportunities, uh Director

1178
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:35,440
Buckley and I have already spoken about
doing public safety tours. Um

1179
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:41,280
Absolutely.
>> So, Director Buckley would it would be

1180
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:46,480
sign up because we we would want him to
be able to answer questions. So, it

1181
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:53,520
would be smaller groups, more uh tours,
but being able to have that engagement,

1182
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:58,639
answer those questions. Um we would also
um in speaking with other communities

1183
01:35:56,159 --> 01:36:06,000
what they've done um when they have a
large referendum is presenting to other

1184
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:11,760
taxing bodies. So staff or the a board
member presenting just FAQs and

1185
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:17,440
information at a school district. So,
district 96 at one of their meetings or

1186
01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:22,800
district 208 or even going to the
library at one of their meetings and

1187
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:26,320
presenting or township, right? Township
covers a little bit more than Riverside,

1188
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:33,440
but it offers that additional
opportunity for engagement. Um, and then

1189
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:39,440
finally, I think there have been some
questions of whether or not to hire a

1190
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:43,600
consultant for um, further engagement.
And um, I'm doing some additional

1191
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:48,239
research. Williams is going to provide
us um, some consultants that they've

1192
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:53,360
worked with in the past. Um and then we
would get some different proposals

1193
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:57,840
costing of those different services and
what the village would be receiving and

1194
01:36:55,119 --> 01:37:02,480
then making that evaluation of whether
or not these services can be done

1195
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:08,480
in-house effectively or if we would need
some support from an outside party.

1196
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:11,119
» I have a question.
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to

1197
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:17,679
this, but I just want you to say it
again out loud. So as village trustees I

1198
01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:22,080
know that you cannot say anything about
um not how to but like you can't give

1199
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:27,040
opinion
what are the rules regarding what we can

1200
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:30,480
say and how we can interact with this
referendum.

1201
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:34,800
» So you can certainly provide information
and you are a private citizen so you can

1202
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:42,159
also
say what your thoughts are relative to

1203
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:46,880
that. Staff cannot do that. Um and so I
I will make sure that attorney pickrol

1204
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:51,520
provides additional guidelines for the
board as we begin on this journey.

1205
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:57,280
» Okay, great.
>> And just put it another way, we as

1206
01:37:55,119 --> 01:38:01,119
trustees on our own time
>> can advocate all we want

1207
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,560
» as private citizens, not as trustees.
Yep.

1208
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:06,560
» Right.
>> Because we're not spending village res

1209
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:09,199
the key is you can't spend village
resources to advocate.

1210
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:14,960
» Yep.
staff time or money for flyers that say

1211
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,560
vote no or vote yes.
>> Sure,

1212
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:19,920
» those kinds of things. So,
>> yeah,

1213
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,400
» I know it is a little outdated, but 12
years ago, wasn't there a video that was

1214
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:26,080
made of our facilities that were
crumbling and deteriorating?

1215
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,520
» We do have those as well.
>> Put that out for public education as

1216
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,480
well. I know it's a little outdated, but
it's

1217
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:37,119
» we would and we would create new videos.
So, in speaking to a couple of village

1218
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:42,960
managers that recently did referendums,
um they did much shorter videos um that

1219
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:48,159
were less than like the target was 30
seconds or less essentially um and

1220
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:53,600
sharing that information. And I think
also the engagement within the police

1221
01:38:51,119 --> 01:39:00,080
department and the fire department and
providing those tours um because a lot

1222
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:05,199
of these areas are they're they're not
accessed by residents and so residents

1223
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:08,880
don't know what are behind these
different doors. And so I think that can

1224
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:13,040
be also very eye opening.
>> Okay. And I think we all know that Chief

1225
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:20,199
Buckley is not shy in front of a camera.
So, I think we can get him to do some

1226
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:20,199
great videos for us.

1227
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,080
» You're welcome.
>> Very good.

1228
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:31,840
» Anything else?
>> The final item um within the packet, it

1229
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:37,199
talks about the business district. So,
Ryan LLC

1230
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:40,960
um acquired Kain McKenna, who was the
previous firm that created the business

1231
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:46,960
districts, the three business districts
along Harlem Avenue. And so we did have

1232
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:51,360
the discussion previously about creating
a business district overlay over the new

1233
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:57,520
facility
um simply for the assessing the 1%

1234
01:39:55,280 --> 01:40:02,320
business district tax and that money can
then be used to be reinvested within the

1235
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:06,639
facility or anything within the
boundaries of the facility or actually

1236
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:12,080
helping to pay off some of the debt that
is issued. Um, in speaking with them,

1237
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:18,719
they had recommended that the first step
would be to actually do an evaluation of

1238
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:25,360
the revenue that could be derived from a
space of that size um to make sure that

1239
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:32,159
it it makes sense to make the larger
investment. So, the cost of just doing

1240
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:37,119
that evaluation is 2500. And then if if
it did make sense then creating the

1241
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:42,080
business district plan and doing the
evaluation and conducting the process

1242
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:46,400
that would be 20,000.
So

1243
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:50,560
» but right now do you want direction from
the village to proceed with the $2,500

1244
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,800
to do the analysis?
>> Yes.

1245
01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:55,760
» I know that's in your spending authority
but we should have direction from the

1246
01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:59,360
board.
I was just wondering if you could

1247
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:03,440
provide residents with some examples of
sales tax generating opportunities and

1248
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:07,440
this is precisely going to do that. So
I'm all for it.

1249
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:14,320
» Yes, please.
>> So right now how the site plan is laid

1250
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:21,119
out there is the main space with the
kitchen. So presumably any so we could

1251
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:25,600
contract with individuals to then assess
the 1% business district tax on any

1252
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:30,320
catering services that are done out of
that room. And then there's the other

1253
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:36,639
smaller space that I'll refer to as the
cafe that was left open. um that then

1254
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:42,560
whatever
pro services are provided out of there

1255
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:48,400
or products rather um so smoothies,
coffee, whatever it may be then that 1%

1256
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:52,159
tax would be also assist there. Also, in
addition, the business district tax, it

1257
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:59,440
would not just be that, but you'd also
have the opportunity to, you know, any

1258
01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:05,040
sales that are generated would be the 1%
regular sales tax and then the 1% uh

1259
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:07,440
non-home roll sales tax.
>> Yep.

1260
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:12,560
» So, non-home rule sales tax would go
directly to streets, the 1%, and I take

1261
01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:18,400
that back. Also, places for eating tax,
which would be 1%.

1262
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:21,760
» Nice. Thank you. Anything
else?

1263
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:24,560
» No, I just need direction on the
>> Oh, yes. Please proceed.

1264
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:28,960
» Yes.
>> Okay.

1265
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:33,440
» Trustees, any other comments, questions
on referendum or public safety

1266
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:37,440
facilities.
>> Just want to thank staff for all the

1267
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:41,520
work
>> it's this is really big and very

1268
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:44,880
exciting, but it's done a lot of work
and heavy lifting and appreciate it.

1269
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:51,119
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. Awesome.

1270
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:57,920
» And thanks to previous boards too and
presidents who have championed this

1271
01:42:54,639 --> 01:43:02,560
endeavor as well.
Uh so we do not have need for an

1272
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:05,040
executive session. I'd like to ask for a
motion and a second to adjurnn.

1273
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:10,159
» So moved.
>> Second.

1274
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:14,920
» All in favor say I. I. Any opposed?
I know you there tonight.