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Need one?
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» Mine.
>> You hurt yourself.

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» Yeah. Good.
>> Nancy.

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I now call the uh April 21st, 2026
regular meeting of the Riverton City

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Council to order at 7 p.m. Councilwoman
Johnson has agreed to lead us in the

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pledge of allegiance after which
Councilwoman Brothers will uh lead us in

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an invocation. If everyone could please
rise for the pledge of allegiance and

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remove your hats.
>> I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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» Our dear heavenly father, we thank thee
so much for the blessing to be here

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tonight to be able to discuss what's
best for the citizens of Riverton,

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Wyoming. We thank thee for the first
responders and for all that they do for

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the city. And we pray a blessing to be
upon them that they will be able to do

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their jobs and that they will know that
they are

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that they we are grateful for all that
they do. And we pray that we will

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know and do what's best for the city
tonight and be able to discuss that with

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the people's best needs at heart. And we
say this in the name of Jesus Christ.

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Amen.
>> Amen.

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» Thank you.
All right. Mr. Batista, could you do me

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a favor real quick?
Could you go to my office and grab my

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dipple? And
then also could you grab there's a pen.

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If you could grab that, too. Well, just
grab me. I don't want to steal.

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Every once in a while you just have
stars don't align for things. I don't

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know.
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Next. Uh Harris, why don't you start us
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can get this going right.
>> Thank you. Council member Karen Johnson

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» here.
>> Council member Carla Borders

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» here.
>> Council member Mike Bailey

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» here.
>> Council member Rebecca Brothers

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» here.
>> Council member Eric Carr

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» here.
>> Mayor Tim Hancock,

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» I am here. Um
I know there was a plan for Councilman

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Larson to be joining us by phone. Didn't
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Um Mr. Ch or your honor, not Mr.
Chairman.

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» Um with the phone system being down,
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through our system.
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I'd entertain a motion to excuse, uh,
Councilman Larson from tonight's meeting

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who is, uh, currently in another, uh,
state and was wanting to attend by

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phone, but was unable to.
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» Second.
>> Have a motion by Councilwoman

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uh, Borders, second by Councilman
Bailey. All in favor say I. Any oppose,

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say nay. I vote I. Motion passes. Did it
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The key worked. Yep. All right. And the
Thank you.

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» Pen might not. Thank you. Thanks, Max.
Oh, yeah. I I should probably take

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» All right. I declare we have a quorum.
I'd entertain a motion to approve the

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agenda as presented.
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» Motion by Councilwoman Johnson, second
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All in favor say I. Any oppose say nay.
I vote I. Motion passes. Introduction

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and oath of office. Patrol officers.
Patrol officer. Chief's report, please.

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Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh,
tonight we add another member of our uh

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to our sworn team. And
uh before I introduce our new member,

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I'd like to be joined tonight by
Lieutenant Amy Filer and Lieutenant Eric

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Smiths to be with me as we welcome our
new patrol officer.

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» Perfect.

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» So I ask Jeff and his wife Megan to
please join me up here.

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» Jeff and his wife Megan come here by the
way of Pacific Northwest. Uh Jeff was an

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Army vet after meeting Megan in the mid
1990s.

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» No, he said

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» Navy
>> chief. I knew that.

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» I've teased him about it.
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After meeting Megan in the mid 90s,
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uh spent most of his time working for
Microsoft, Amazon, T-Mobile, and a few

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Seattle area executives.
He likes playing uh likes spending his

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time cooking and hunting and playing
golf. They moved to the Richmond area

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four years ago, and he's already put
down his roots by buying a new home. Uh

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Jeff was hired two years ago as our
first community service officer and he

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joins us as being promoted to a new
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Uh after much prompting and with
permission of Megan

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this time, your honor, we are ready to
uh have the oath of office. After Megan,

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if you would do the honors of placing
the badge on Jeff,

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I think
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and then I'll head down.

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Try harder.

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» Second time around.

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This isn't the first time I've sworn you
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» No, it is not.
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could repeat after me. I'm going to say
I and then you're going to say your

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name. I'm not going to say your name. I
>> I Jeffrey David Mang

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» do solemnly swear or affirm
>> do solemnly swear or affirm

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» that I will support obey and defend
>> that I will support obey and defend

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» the Constitution of the United States
>> the Constitution of the United States

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» and the Constitution of the State of
Wyoming

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» and the Constitution of the State of
Wyoming

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» that I have not knowingly
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» violated any law
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» related to my appointment
>> related to my appointment

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» nor caused it to be done by others
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» that I will discharge the duties of my
office

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» and that I will discharge the duties of
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» with fidelity.
>> with fidelity.

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» All right,

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» good. You know the drill.
>> Yes. Congratulations.

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» Congratulations.
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» Congratulations.
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» Welcome.

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» So, the chief kind of was disguisedly
making two announcements there.

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In part why he had uh Lieutenant Filer
and Lieutenant uh Eric Smith come up is

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because we recently have now two new
lieutenants over at the police

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department. So very glad to have you
both here. You obviously represent two

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different styles of lieutenants right
now with Amy fully decked out in

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uh her uh typical uniform and Eric fully
decked out in his typical uniform. So,

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both good things. Very glad to have you
on board, Jeff. Um, excited for what you

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can bring to the department. Very glad
to have you available and willing to

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serve. And, um, hopefully this means
that we'll have more opportunities for

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you to cook for us. So
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» part of the reason was
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» I was going to ask if he gets a special

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» there needs to be a competition first
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wins that. So we'll find out. There's
some stiff competition. I don't know if

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there really is actually now that I'm
thinking about everybody.

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» Sounds like find out.
>> Yeah, mayor. There is another uh

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competition this weekend.
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» good.

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» That's right.

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» And I can tell that you still like each
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» All right. Well, great news. Glad to
have you on board. I know we have

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another officer who we're going to be
swearing in here soon. Uh but was unable

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to have things work out for that to
happen. So, and certainly appreciate um

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Lieutenant Filer. I'm going to get used
to saying it. Um and Lieutenant Smith

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being willing to step up and uh fill
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and many years of service. And I think
now I think you both did you graduate

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from the academy pretty close to the
same time? Eric, you have her by maybe a

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couple of months or a year, don't you?
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» I remember that. So, yeah. All right.
Good deal.

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» All right. Next up, we have a National
Apprenticeship Apprenticeship Week

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proclamation. Oh, that is not the one
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Uh whereas National Apprenticeship Week
is celebrating its 12th anniversary of

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raising awareness of the vital role that
a registered apprenticeships play in

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providing opportunities to the people of
Wyoming by allowing apprentices to earn

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while they learn and preparing a pathway
to good quality jobs and well-paying

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careers and the ability to advance in
those careers. And whereas registered

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apprenticeship programs enable employers
to develop and train their future

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workforce while offering career seekers
affordable paths to secure high paying

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jobs. And whereas apprenticeship is an
important post-secondary pathway for

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Wyoming workers, offering a combination
of academic and technical instruction

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with paid on the job training, resulting
in national and industry recognized

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occupational credential
that ensures higher earnings for

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apprentices and a highly skilled
workforce for Wyoming employers,

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associations, and unions. Whereas
registered apprenticeship programs are

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uniquely able to meet the changing
demands of the Wyoming economy and

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provide a path for all qualified
individuals, including women, youth,

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people of color, rural communities,
justice involved individuals, and

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individuals with disabilities to become
apprentices and contribute to America's

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industries. And whereas Wyoming
recognized that registered

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apprenticeship, a proven and
industry-driven training model, is a key

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strategy to improving job quality and
creating access to good paying, family

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sustaining jobs for all. while
addressing some of our nation's pressing

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workforce challenges such as rebuilding
our country's infrastructure, addressing

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critical supply chain demands,
supporting a clean energy workforce,

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modernizing our cyber security response
and responding to care economy issues.

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Whereas the celebration of Wyoming
apprenticeship day will honor and

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encourage industries who utilize or
could benefit from apprenticeship models

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and recognize the role the
apprenticeship system has played in

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preparing Wyoming apprentices for
sustainable careers with family

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sustaining wages. Now therefore, I Tim
Hancock do hereby proclaim

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April 26, 2026 through May 2nd, 2026 as
National Apprenticeship Week in Riverton

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and witness whereof I have here to set
my hand and cause the official seal of

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the city of Riverton to be affixed this
21st day of April 2026. So

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always good to have apprentices. glad
that we have people that are willing to

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uh I I I think that this words it just
very well in terms of learning, earning

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while they learn, which I think is just
an incredible thing that can help a lot

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of different people. Um I actually have
an individual that I had the privilege

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of prosecuting. That sounds kind of
funny, doesn't it?

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um who has turned his life around
completely and he's become a a welder

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and it's something that uh he started
you know just the same sort of thing uh

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working with others learning on the job
that sort of thing and uh it's changed

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his life completely. He's been able to
maintain sobriety for a couple of years

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now and it's there's a lot of good
things about it. So anyway, thank you

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everyone um for uh providing the
proclamation and listening through a

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long proclamation where I stumbled over
a couple words. Next up, reports and

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comments, council committee reports and
council members roundt.

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Um
who haven't we started with lately? Just

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to throw things off, I think we haven't
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lately.
>> All right, perfect. Thank you, your

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honor. Um I had uh two things, two
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council meeting on um let's see I have
it I think the 8th was when we did last

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did it. We have it again tomorrow. Um I
will be out of town. So we're going to I

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don't know who Mr. Butterfield asked to
fill in or if he has yet, but uh

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» to be determined tonight.
>> Okay, awesome. So, um but um we have

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several things happening. Um and uh the
kids are doing great things. But one of

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the things that we did uh was we went to
the Rotary cleanup. Um uh we had I think

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four kids come and then my daughter came
as well and we did we did a great job. I

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think we had a really big stretch of a
lot of trash.

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» Yes.
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It's something that makes you feel
really good to do and I'm really

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grateful that the Rotary does that and
gives everybody in the community a

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chance to clean up and feel good about
themselves. So, thank you for that. So

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yeah, um youth council's working hard
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uh yeah, I think that we're going to
work with um new Cub Scout uh troop

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that's that's um thinking about getting
started here and um we're going to talk

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to them tomorrow. So yeah, that's it,
your honor. Thank you.

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» All right, just so happens that I know a
little bit about that Cub Scout.

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» Oh, do you? pack.
>> I'm actually the uh from Rotary. I am

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the um oh, what's the word for it?
I'll think of it later. Mr. Bailey, let

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us know about what you've got going on.
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airport board meeting here this last
Friday and the airport is doing well.

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We're staying on track with where we
were last year with uh you know uh in

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claimments and stuff.
and you know things are moving along

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very well at the airport. So again, I
think it's a wonderful asset we have in

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our community that helps us get where we
need to go and people to be able to fly

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in here and visit and all that kind of
stuff. Saves a lot of time and energy.

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If we didn't have it, we'd be flying
into Casper or Cody or Jackson or

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whatever. So, and free parking while
you're gone and so it's really a pretty

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good bargain. So, um, then also again
this last Saturday we had the community

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cleanup which Rotary sort of sponsored
and my wife directed.

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So, I got put to work and uh, but we had
a great time. We had close to a hundred

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people come out from multiple different
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covered a lot of ground. um picked up

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two 16 foot dump trailers full of trash
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you know, it's one of those where you
don't realize until you really get to

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look how much trash, you know, blows up
in the fences and all that kind of

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stuff. And so it uh it's it's very
satisfying when you're all done to to go

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out and look and those places are, you
know, clear of garbage and stuff. Again,

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we just need to make sure we keep our
community looking nice. And I know we're

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not going to have any water this year,
but I'll bet the weeds will be fine.

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They seem to survive and thrive no
matter what. So, you know, the next

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thing is I think we all need to keep an
eye on our weeds and try to get keep

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them trimmed down so they don't get out
of control. So,

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» it's almost like they don't even need
water.

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» I I think they like not being watered,
but uh yeah. So, again, great turnout.

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It's wonderful to see people get out and
participate in making our community a

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better place to live. Um then last of
all, the Boys and Girls Club breakfast

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is tomorrow, uh which is their annual
fundraiser. Um

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again, I think we're on our fourth or
fifth year. I can't remember.

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» I think it's fourth.
>> Um but the Boys and Girls Club is doing

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amazing. They've got over 350 kids now
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and I think they weren't sure if they
were going to get to 75 and here we are

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at 350. So,
>> it's amazing. And they're in the old

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Ashgrove school building and doing well.
And I it's a it's an amazing wonderful,

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you know, asset to our community where
these kids have some places to go after

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school and help get help with homework
and do activities and they've got a

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summer program. And so I think it's it
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And so it's it's an amazing thing. So I
encourage you to uh get out and support

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them. If you don't go to the breakfast,
it's free. You're missing out. And but

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if you'd like, I'm sure I think on their
website you there's a place where you

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could make, you know, monthly donations
or whatever, but it's really a good

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cause for the community. So that's all I
have, your honor. Thank you.

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» Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm sorry. I
was I missed it. Wasn't feeling very

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well.
>> Hey, that happens.

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Um, Councilwoman orders,
>> your honor, um, I had a couple of

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meetings, both of them related to the
semiquincentennial

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celebration July 4th. Um, first I went
to the, um, actual event meeting and,

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um, we're in need of tribal dancers. If
anyone knows anyone that would want to

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participate, we would absolutely love to
have them with us. Um, we also are

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looking for some food vendors
and and then limited craft tables. Um,

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we want to try to limit it to uh
patriotic type t-shirts and things like

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that, celebration t-shirts. Um, let's
see what else. Okay, the parade

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basically the same thing. We're looking
for some tribal dancers, maybe some

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horsemen,
um, just to join in on the festivities.

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And then I was going to mention the
breakfast tomorrow morning, bright and

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early, 6:30. Um,
Ed McAffrey will be there if anyone

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knows the Broncos.
>> Um, and that is about all I've got.

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» All right,
Councilwoman Johnson. Thank you. Um I

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have not attended any meetings since
last week um that were scheduled, but I

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have been in meetings all week long
doing a lot of followup and preparing

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for this evening's meeting. Um I did
want to say thank you to those that

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participated in the Rotary Cleanup. That
was very nice to see and it's good to

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see that the community's taken an
interest in beautifying our community

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and I think it's much appreciated and so
I just wanted to say thank you for that.

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That's all I have, your honor.
>> Okay. Thank you, Councilman Carr.

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» Thank you, your honor. Um, no official
meetings, but I did attend the chamber

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lunch and learn on the 9th with Tim
Nichols speaking about the 3/4 cent tax

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and the um ground transportation and how
it relates. Uh he did an excellent job.

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If you do haven't heard Tim speak, uh he
always does a very good job. He's very

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informative and exceptionally
knowledgeable about all things 3/4 cent

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tax related. So, um, please get out and
support that as much as possible. Uh,

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just as a reminder, construction
season's in full swing now. Uh, please

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watch out for work zones.
I every single year I see somebody or am

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almost hit myself on a construction
project. So, please watch out. uh slow

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down, give the Orange Cones the the
distance they deserve. And then just a

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real quick question uh for Gary uh or
maybe Chief Herado,

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are do we have a a position open for the
community service officer now that

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what's the plan there?
>> Sure, your honor.

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» Be feel free.
>> Uh yes. So with uh tonight's uh

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promotion, there is a opening for a
community service officer. Uh in

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anticipation of tonight, we did
advertise and there was a selection

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process and an offer was extended. We're
just waiting for backgrounds and

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everything else to fall in place.
>> Move fast. Awesome. That's good news.

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Excellent.
>> That's all I have, your honor. Thank

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you.
>> Okay. Can I just ask a quick follow-up

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question to that? Is that's a granted
position, is it not? And how long does

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that grant last or do we have to reapply
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» your honor? Uh,
yes, the is a 100% grant funded

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position. It was a three-year grant. It
ends September of this year and the

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grant just opened for us to reapply.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you. Good question. And it's been
nice to be able to have that. I mean, as

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an option, we're fully funded grant
positions. It's just a great thing.

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» All right. Um, Mr. Butterfield, did I
get everybody? I did.

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» Thank you, your honor. I do have a few
things.

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First, I'd like to start by highlighting
our IT team and for their efforts to um

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restore connectivity and we appreciate
when they respond to these emergencies

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and and assist. Oftentimes, they're the
team that's working behind the scenes to

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make sure everything else goes to plan.
So, I want to say thank you to them.

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Also want to express appreciation to the
sheriff's office because uh with some of

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the um issues that are happening due to
the fiber optic line that was hit. We

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are partnering with the sheriff's office
to ensure that all phone calls are being

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received and services provided
especially those who are in need of uh

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emergent responses.
In addition to the um community service

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officer update that Chief Herertado
provided, uh we're happy to announce

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that three of the recently interviewed
patrol officer candidates are in

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backgrounds and we look forward to
continuing the hiring process um for

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those vacancies.
I also want to express uh gratitude and

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congratulations to um Lieutenant Filer
and Lieutenant Smiths. They've been part

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of the team for a long time and look
forward to the leadership that they will

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be providing to our department.
There is no planning commission u this

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week and um there are no other meetings
scheduled outside of the youth council

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um for this week.
I would like to highlight that the uh

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joint committee on funding key services
had opportunity to attend the Wind River

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Intertribal Council last week and from
um that uh opportunity the intertribal

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council approved a resolution of support
for the optional 3/4%

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uh tax that does go towards um serving
uh commercial air service, ground

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transportation or public transportation
and also ambulance service.

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And finally, um,
Mr. Chairman, I would like to, um,

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highlight June Bailey as well. Um,
appreciated the opportunity to to

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provide service. My kids enjoyed Sunday
morning driving past the area that they

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cleaned and took some pride in that. So,
thank you for also assigning me a spot

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where I didn't have to worry about them
getting run over.

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» So, I appreciate that.
>> Worry about my kids getting run over.

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That's right.
>> You never know. Um your honor, if it's

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uh okay, I'd like to defer the remainder
of my comments to public works director

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Tolman to provide an update on the um
force committee of the Fixar Road

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Citizen Committee recommended projects
for this construction season and then

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also to provide a bit of a construction
update for the projects that are going

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on around town.
>> Sounds good. Thank you, Mr. Tolman.

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» Hey, thank you, your honor. Uh members
of the council,

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excuse me. Last Monday, um, April 13th,
the force committee met, the fixer road

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citizen committee with a, um, with a
budget of about, um, just over 4 million

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in their in their account, for
4,223,000.

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They recommended uh, seven projects for
this upcoming year in the in the amount

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of um 3,473
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Uh the first project of course being the
Riverview Road reconstruction project.

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Um that project is slated to uh where
the city hasn't paid any in construction

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fees at this point is just over 2
million uh 2,775,000.

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And the other projects I'll list off are
are recommended upcoming projects. Um a

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couple we're working on are right in the
works. Uh first of all is a slurry seal

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project. Has been mentioned a few times.
It's a slurry seal and roadway striping

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project. It's been budgeted at $350,000.
Some of the roadway striping has already

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been already taken place, but after the
slurry seal project is completely uh put

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together, uh which includes the South
Glenn edition, sections of downtown, um

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parts off of Riverview, and then also uh
a portion, um

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oh, the let me get this right. Excuse
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uh the old town um the Ryan Heights
edition. Um on top of the hill between

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the administrative building and then
Smith's on Fremont and Park Street um

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right next to Main Street is are some
streets that are that are perfectly

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situated for this slurry seal project.
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and and kind of a great candidate as we
kind of move around the city to do this

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project. So again, that project is about
uh keeps us about um about 100,000

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square yards of asphalt slurry seal uh
each year and takes in streets that that

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fit uh the parameter that they have a
good uh structure to them. The asphalt

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is holding together, not too worn, not
too nice, not not needing it, but also

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provides a wear surface and then a um UV
protectant surface for the for the

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roadways. So those areas were slated for
this year. that project's being worked

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on. I'll have I can I'll have a a better
report towards the end of the week on

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those exact areas as well. So, um three
other or four other projects that were

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approved by the force committee were the
Homestead roadway um section

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replacement. It's just a drainage issue
and the Homestead um the reach

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subdivision um a section where curb and
gutter and the roads been buckling

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because of a poor uh storm drain system.
Um multiple citizens have come to the

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force committee and expressed concern in
that area. So they put it aside 110,000

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to fix that section of roadway. Um a
reclamation portion on chimney chimney

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rock drive in the amount of $40,000.
Also concrete drainage and replacement

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next to the slurry seal projects. And
this would be about in the amount of

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$120,000.
And then finally is a um engineering

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budget, a budget for engineering study
and uh design and then to go to bid in

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the bsentennial subdivision. So this is
Liberty Flag and Independence drives and

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this has been um brought up multiple
times with the force community to to do

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repairs in that area. So
>> and so what's the plan with it? Is it to

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do repairs or just to study if it needs
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» Uh um
>> because I can study it and it needs to

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be repaired.

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And that's and that that was the
recommendation as well is go right to

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engineering. Absolutely. And then create
a project.

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» Sounds good.
>> Thank you. I I wasn't trying to be

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facitious. It's just the last four or
five years we've been talking about flag

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and independence and every time I drive
by there I'm like when are we going to

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get this done? It needs to be done. So
all right. Thanks Mr. Tolman. Glad to

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hear we're getting on it.
>> Thank you. I appreciate it. We we

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thought we could do it in house, but in
the end, we thought we'd better get

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someone on board to help us keep moving.
>> Perfect. Sorry, I didn't mean to

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interrupt. Carry on.
>> Oh, that's perfect. Um

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» I just was telling you I did my own
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» I feel pretty comfortable.
>> No, I only had two other items or or

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excuse me, three other items. Um there
is a will be a replacement of a covert

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on Webwood Road. That's upcoming. Uh
we're working with Riverton Valley

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Irrigation District to do that. They'll
close the roadway temporarily to replace

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the covert. Um I believe that's coming
in later this week or early next week.

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Um the drinking fountain project is uh
underway at city park. Um the fountain

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is the pad's going in as well as the
fountain. Um Apodaka construction is uh

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won won the bid to to put in that the
fountain and they're moving forward. So

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and then finally the riverview road
project utility work is near complete on

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that project and uh in preparation of
roadway work the next portion is the me

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next phase is going to put back the west
portion of the roadway and focus on uh

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bringing that back um to be able to be
paved when the plant opens up in about a

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month. So thank you your honor.
>> Perfect. Well thank you for that report.

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That's good news.
Okay. Uh couple of things then that I'll

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report on. Number one, we have a Fremont
County Association of Governments

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meeting coming up this Thursday. We're
going to be in Hudson starting at 11:00.

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some good things going with FCAG. I had
the opportunity to report and discuss

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with the county commissioners. When was
that? Last week. Last week.

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» Um, as you may recall, we had the
resolution that was passed by Riverton,

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Lander,
Hudson, and Pavilion. um and the county

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and the county was discussing it and
what they wanted to do with it going

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forward. After some discussion and a
work session last week uh to which they

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invited all of the mayors of the
individual communities um they elected

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to go forward with their resolution as
it was worded and anyway it was good.

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Some questions were answered and it was
good opportunity to visit with them. the

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um

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I really appreciate by the way and Mr.
Butterfield doesn't uh toot his own

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horn. Is that the right way to say it?
Yeah. Um the whole idea that we've had

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tribal resolutions in support of this is
huge. Um, of course, state statute and

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and Fremont County is unique because we
have uh the reservation here, but and

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00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:30,079
state statute does not require or
recognize tribal uh concurrence with a

417
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:35,599
resolution as being required for a
resolution to be on the ballot. That

418
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:40,320
being said, they were very cognizant of
and wanting to do better at building

419
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:44,399
partnerships with both tribes,
particularly with the intertribal

420
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:47,200
council. And I just wanted to applaud
that and say that uh it's my

421
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,760
understanding you were the one who
reported and and got them to approve it

422
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:56,079
and practically didn't have to say a
word. They said we're already prepared.

423
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,920
» The team effort, your honor.
>> Yes, that's what he always says. Um so

424
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:06,079
anyway, it was well done and appreciate
his hard work in that regard. Um I

425
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,880
finally had to look it up and remember
what I am. So, Rotary is actually the

426
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:15,440
chartered organization for the pack
which has just been organized. It's pack

427
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,839
4044
um and likely will be meeting at the

428
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:23,440
Methodist church which is exciting. So
far don't have a lot of members of it.

429
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:29,200
It's going to be a family pack, Cub
Scout pack and um

430
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,720
excited for what they have to do. They
are looking for donations right now. Um

431
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:36,160
especially as a new pack, they're
looking for things for be able to get

432
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:41,920
uniforms, different things like that.
Um, great to be able to have uh, Rotary

433
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:46,480
is the chartering organization
and um, anyway, just just good things

434
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:50,560
going on there. Excited to see what they
have to do going forward. Uh, tomorrow

435
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,640
of course we have the Boys and Girls
Club breakfast. Excited for that.

436
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Recognizing Cody Cody and Crystal
Meyers. Uh, anybody who knows both of

437
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,599
those two individuals, they've done a
lot for our community over the years. I

438
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:09,200
would say of anybody who would be able
to just think of this is a person who is

439
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,599
an SRO in Fremont County, they would
probably think of Cody Myers. He's like

440
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:19,119
the the poster child.
>> Um he's not a child anymore. He's

441
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:22,560
getting old. Not that old, but um
anyway, he's like the poster child for

442
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:27,839
it. And he and his wife have just done a
lot. Uh, one of the things that they've

443
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:31,599
been doing in addition to that is have
had a a group that they've been doing

444
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,119
that's been doing rodeo, different
things like that. Just so many things

445
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:40,160
that benefit the youth in our uh county.
So recognizing them is very appropriate.

446
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:47,280
I have a proclamation that I'm going to
read tomorrow and uh I think that's

447
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:51,520
incredible as well. Um,
let's see. So, is Thursday. Oh,

448
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,480
tomorrow we have a DUI task force uh
meeting. I haven't been able to attend

449
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,240
those those for about the last six
months, but I will be attending

450
00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:04,800
tomorrow. So, that's good news. Um, we
also have a region 4 virtual meeting for

451
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:10,480
um WHAM coming up this week. That's
Thursday, too, right? 3:00. Trying to

452
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:13,119
remember. I think it's Thursday at 3.
I'll double check that.

453
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:16,800
» Um,
so we have that coming up this week. uh

454
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:20,800
we'll be talking about different things
that affect and uh can benefit our

455
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,480
community that through WHAM as an
organization. So that's great news

456
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,359
there.
>> Your honor, that WHAM meeting is

457
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,920
tomorrow at
>> tomorrow. Yeah, I'll be there. It's on

458
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,240
my calendar somewhere. It's on some
calendar. I have too many of them. But

459
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,480
that's what we have going on. That's
what I've been able to attend and be uh

460
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,880
able to participate in and certainly
appreciate that. Oh, one more thing.

461
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:49,119
Wind River Visitors Council. For those
who don't know, Wind River Visitors

462
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Council is a lodging tax tourism board.
Uh it's a group that is a joint powers

463
00:37:51,520 --> 00:38:00,079
board that is basically set up to take
the lodging tax funds. Uh if you're

464
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:05,280
aware of that, if you stay at a hotel in
Fremont County, there's a lodging tax

465
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:11,359
that's applied to your lodging
and those funds will go towards uh

466
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:15,119
encouraging tourism in the area. So that
group is the source of the TAD funds or

467
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:22,560
the tourism asset development funds that
the uh city is part of getting sent out

468
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:27,920
to uh different in organizations
and some of the discussion lately has

469
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:32,720
been that they had voted and we've
talked about them a couple of times

470
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:39,040
» uh and they had discussed well wait a
minute the uh uniform municipal fiscal

471
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:43,440
procedures as act or umpa as it is more
commonly known it's not commonly known

472
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:48,240
as that. Um,
we want to make sure we follow that. And

473
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,760
so they had voted and said we're not
going to go through and come to the

474
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,760
communities to have our budgets approved
anymore.

475
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,680
That's a little bit of a difficult pill
to swallow when we have a joint powers

476
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,800
agreement between Riverton and all of
the other communities in Fremont County

477
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,800
that says that's what you're supposed to
do is come to the different communities

478
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,320
to have your budget approved. after that
vote had had an opportunity to speak

479
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,880
with them a little bit. Uh our
representative explained that it just

480
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:19,920
puts us in an untenable position. And if
you're going to do that, if you're not

481
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:23,359
going to be having that come for each of
the communities for approval for the

482
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,160
budget,
then if we don't do something about that

483
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:32,960
as the city of Riverton,
we're not enforcing our joint powers

484
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:38,560
agreement. we're needing to enforce a
contract that we have entered into.

485
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:42,560
So after some discussion, uh I think
what they're going to do is move to

486
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,960
rescend that and go back to the way that
they've done it, which is in accordance

487
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:51,760
with the joint powers agreement. So just
FYI, hopefully that goes forward and all

488
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,800
is well.
>> All right. Well, that's it for me. Uh

489
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:57,680
anyone in the audience wishing to
address the council regarding an item

490
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,200
that's scheduled for a public hearing,
you'll be given an opportunity to speak

491
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,000
during that public hearing. Uh, but if
you want to address the council of

492
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:09,359
something that's not set for a public
hearing, um, you can come up now or when

493
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:14,480
an agenda item is called that's not set
for a public hearing, feel free to come

494
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,079
up then, too. I, you know, different
mayors do things differently. I

495
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:23,280
certainly don't want people hollering
from the gallery or from the audience,

496
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,320
but I do not mind at all. If you want an
opportunity to come up and speak, please

497
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,880
come up and speak. The only thing I ask
you to do is number one, keep your

498
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,720
topics germaine to whatever is being
discussed. If you're going to come up

499
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:38,400
during an agenda item, number two, keep
your uh comments to five minutes if

500
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,040
you're an individual or 10 minutes if
you're a part of a group. Just split it

501
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,880
up between you and the other members of
the group. Um, and number three, keep

502
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,960
your comments such that they're not
going to be fighting words or something

503
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:55,200
that's going to directly comment on the
character or attack another person so

504
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,400
that we can have it remain professional.
So, if you could come up, tell us your

505
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:03,800
name, and if you're with an
organization, the organization you're

506
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,800
with, we'd love to hear from you.

507
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,280
» And you have to speak right into that
mic.

508
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:14,960
» I'm uh Chuck Rogers. I'm speaking for
myself. Um,

509
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:22,480
and
let me

510
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:26,240
pass three pictures around. And this
this will relate to

511
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,480
what I'm talking

512
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:47,920
this regard. First, I appreciate uh the
amount of time and uh the energy uh that

513
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:56,240
you folks put in to uh to benefit our
our community. Thank you. Um,

514
00:41:51,760 --> 00:42:05,200
this relates to the intersection of Hill
Street and uh and West Maine up by the

515
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:12,240
college. Uh, it's been a horse I've been
riding on. I I I just want to make sure

516
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:18,640
that it is
still on our radar or is again on our

517
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:28,480
radar. Uh I didn't hear the force
committee uh mentioning it. Um

518
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:33,839
anyway, the uh the first picture, you
know, my wife

519
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:41,920
was the day before her
70 before she turned 76, she was in an

520
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:48,000
accident going across
Main Street from

521
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:55,520
from the college on Hill Street.
and uh first accident she was ever in,

522
00:42:52,319 --> 00:43:02,400
you know, and that's pretty amazing. And
and she was saying I, you know, I didn't

523
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:07,839
see him, you know, and so I started to
investigate

524
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:15,200
and the first picture there relates, you
know, the the wrecked car.

525
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:22,640
It was t-boned. The second picture
shows the investigation.

526
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:31,680
You know, if you look out your
the passenger side window,

527
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:38,800
you see maybe 30 yards up the up the
road on West Main.

528
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:46,079
You have 1.8 seconds. If somebody's
driving the speed limit of 45, you have

529
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:54,560
1.8 seconds between the time when the
person is in your the blind spot and

530
00:43:52,400 --> 00:44:02,800
that car arrives in the middle of the of
the the intersection. So, you know, you

531
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:08,400
can look left, right, left again,
pull out, and you're, you know, if that

532
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:13,520
person is on the edge of the inner of
the blind spot, you're going to hit him

533
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:23,119
or he'll hit you. You know, you're going
to t-bone or get t-boned. Um

534
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:30,800
the so what what you guys did and thank
you is you had uh you you painted a

535
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:40,160
triangle up there uh which I think is
really helpful. Uh it it causes you you

536
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:48,720
know the driver to uh square up to the
intersection. So instead of 1.8 eight

537
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:52,880
seconds of lead time, you have 16
seconds.

538
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:57,839
You know, that's quite a difference. So,
what I what I would like to do, I mean,

539
00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:05,200
the
the ideal solution

540
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:10,640
um would be to modify in my opinion to
modify that

541
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:17,680
um intersection, you know, to square it
up. And I realize there are all kinds of

542
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:26,319
problems with that u you know uh inter
agency stuff and state stuff and you

543
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:36,200
know everything else. Um so I think this
is not a bad second solution. Um the

544
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200
uh

545
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:48,640
but we need to put something that forces
people to make that that curve to you

546
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,839
know to pull the car to the right like
um

547
00:45:50,319 --> 00:46:00,240
uh
you know a small bump

548
00:45:55,359 --> 00:46:05,760
uh or a curb you know or an inch uh
raise up on the, you know, on the

549
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:15,040
triangle. Something that will allow
trucks coming up main to turn without

550
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:21,200
ruining anything. Uh, but also forces a
driver to square up to that intersection

551
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:26,960
so that he has 16 seconds of lead time
rather than less than two.

552
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:34,720
Um I I think other
solutions you know are I in my opinion

553
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:42,880
are not as good. You uh
if you enforce a 30 mph speed limit

554
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:51,359
instead of 45 then instead of 1.8
seconds you have 2.7 seconds.

555
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:56,720
You're you're still dead you know. uh if
you have a light there,

556
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:03,200
if somebody rides a light, you know,
runs a light,

557
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:09,040
you still have two seconds.
So, I think, you know, the the number

558
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:16,720
one thing is is to do something with
that uh that intersection. So anyway, I

559
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:23,200
want to get that get that back on the uh
in your in your focus and uh thank you.

560
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:27,520
» Thank you. Appreciate it, Chuck.
>> Good reminder. We've talked about it a

561
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:31,200
couple of times and just so you know,
even before

562
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:36,000
» you came tonight, we had talked about
this just about a month or two ago. So

563
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:40,240
it's it's not being forgotten, but
there's some complications as you know.

564
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,359
» Oh, I know. It's it's an interesting
situation where it's not technically our

565
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,880
highway.
>> I Yeah, I realize that, you know,

566
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:53,040
» it gets hard,
>> but I think, you know, somebody else is

567
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:57,760
going to get killed eventually. There
there's one person that I know of, I

568
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,800
think two have died there from that,
>> right?

569
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:10,000
» That you know, from wrecks there. there
are, you know, two and a half injuries

570
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:15,599
per year over like a 15-year period. Uh
before we did this thing, I don't know

571
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:22,640
what the what the deal is now, but uh
you know, somebody's going to sue us. Uh

572
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:29,520
and I think at least we can say, okay,
we did what we can do. You know, we've

573
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:36,400
addressed it as well as we can. We don't
have all of the controls. I understand.

574
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:38,160
Uh but we got to do what we can do. So,
thank you.

575
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,160
» I appreciate you coming in. Thank you,
sir.

576
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,920
Anyone else?

577
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:52,200
» I'm assuming most people are here for
another agenda item then. Oh, feel free

578
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,200
to come up, sir.

579
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:07,839
Just so you know,
new fancy technology, but we have time

580
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:12,960
here so you can keep track of where
you're at compared to five minutes.

581
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:19,200
» Thank you.
Hello everyone. Uh my name is Larry

582
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:25,359
Wallace. I'm with the wide Wind River
Animal Welfare Association

583
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:33,440
has been around for a few years. And I
know that some of you here in the room

584
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:39,839
have had and do have good dogs and cats
that you love so much in your homes.

585
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:47,680
And uh me self over the years so many
different cats and dogs in our homes.

586
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:53,440
And I'm talking today about uh
particularly

587
00:49:49,520 --> 00:50:00,079
the idea of euthanizing the animals at
paw the paws situation. I just learned

588
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:08,319
about this yesterday in the newspaper
and uh wanted just to say simply that uh

589
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:16,040
I've worked with paws through the times
uh helping them with other animals that

590
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,040
I've taken to them that were fraed

591
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:27,040
a place to be and and they take them in
and find a way to find them homes. Uh, I

592
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:32,480
even found a dog myself years ago at at
the pause that I've had for many, many

593
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:40,160
years and she was such a good dog for me
at home. Uh what I would like to say is

594
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:46,720
that when we think about there's so many
cats and dogs there that need to be

595
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:54,640
taken care of, I do believe that in our
Riverton community and even in the whole

596
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:59,280
uh area around our areas, there are many
many people who would like to have good

597
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:03,440
dogs or cats taking them into their
homes. So I think if we get out a lot of

598
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:10,000
information
about what can be available there and

599
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:16,000
how they can do that is a way to sort of
bring more of those cats and dogs out of

600
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:24,160
the paws and maybe into home situations.
Um, I plan to talk with the pause uh

601
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:28,960
this week or next week about the
situation that's happening there because

602
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,960
about a month ago, I was out there at
the pause place and looking at all the

603
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:38,160
cats and dogs they had. They had some
really good small dogs and bigger ones

604
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:45,680
and some barked and some wanted to be
petted and uh so it was fine to see what

605
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:53,599
was going on there uh at the service
that they offer. Uh I'm planning to get

606
00:51:50,480 --> 00:52:00,079
this information out about the need some
help for the cats and dogs to find

607
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:06,880
homes. I'm good at uh doing posters and
things like that and also getting things

608
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:11,200
around to different communities like the
churches and other thing to let them

609
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:16,640
know that they need to come out to pause
and and look at the animals that they

610
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:24,640
might want to take at home. Uh I also
certainly realize that we have uh local

611
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:30,079
access on number 191
on TV and I found that and found that to

612
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:35,040
be helpful to me to find a lot of things
happening around the city. So I think if

613
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:41,760
we put some information more on that
about uh the needs of of the animals to

614
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:47,520
have good homes and to take away from
the pause so that uh they have good

615
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:54,559
homes. Uh certainly I've worked with
some of the uh uh

616
00:52:52,000 --> 00:53:01,119
some of the tribes about the spaying
that they have going on pretty couple

617
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:04,640
times a year to help keep the puppies
and kitties, you know, out of the way

618
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:13,280
when they don't when they don't need to
be in the situation. Uh I also think we

619
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:18,400
need to think about uh Facebook as a
possibility sort of open up some of

620
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:24,720
these possibilities for these animals to
find new homes. So glad to talk to you

621
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:29,520
this evening and uh uh hope that we can
work something to get this thing and

622
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:35,960
make a good uh plan for the cats and
dogs and pause. Thank you.

623
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,960
» Thank you, Mr. Wallace. Appreciate that.

624
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:48,720
All right, we'll move on. Thank you for
our two that were willing to come up and

625
00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:54,160
speak. Anybody that's ever done that
knows it's a little bit nerve-wracking.

626
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,359
It is for us, too.
All right. Uh consent agenda.

627
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,240
Administrative services director, please
read the consent agenda items by title

628
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,240
only.
>> Yes, your honor. Minutes of the April

629
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:09,359
7th, 2026 regular council meeting.
Minutes of the April 14th, 2026 council

630
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:13,839
work session. Minutes of the April 21st,
2026 finance committee meeting. Finance

631
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:19,119
committee recommendations from April
21st, 2026.

632
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:22,720
» All right. We have any uh well, I'll
just say what's the uh report

633
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:25,520
recommendation from the finance
committee, Mr.

634
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:29,119
» Thank you, your honor. The finance
committee met at 6:45 p.m. this evening

635
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,839
and recommend consideration of claims to
be paid in the amount of $331,8567.

636
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Elon credit card in the amount of
$6,11346.

637
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:47,960
Payroll and liabilities for April 7th,
2026 and uh April 16th, 2026 in the

638
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:47,960
amount of $248,776.73

639
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,440
for a total of $586,746.86.

640
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:57,520
» All right. Right. I'd entertain a motion
to approve the consent agenda as

641
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,280
presented.
>> So moved.

642
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:04,720
» Second.
>> Motion by Councilman Bailey, second by

643
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:09,119
Councilwoman Borders.
>> Discussion. Your honor, all abstain from

644
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:14,400
the Bailey Enterprises line items in the
finance committee report.

645
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:16,400
» All right. Any other discussion?
All in favor say I.

646
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:19,119
» I.
>> I.

647
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:24,400
» Any oppose say nay.
>> I vote I. Motion passes. Community

648
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:28,559
development department community
development d department annual report.

649
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,240
» Mr. Misho,
>> you are

650
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:34,240
» ready for this?
>> I am ready. We are ready for this. And

651
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,720
may I approach the podium, your honor?
>> Yes, please. And I see you have a couple

652
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:42,559
of people with you that are
employees of the community development

653
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:48,000
department. I recognize them. Other
people may recognize them.

654
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,839
Not like police officers where if you
recognize them, it's probably because

655
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:57,280
you've been arrested or something.
I don't know. Have you been arresting

656
00:55:53,280 --> 00:56:01,520
anybody lately? No.
>> Have I been arresting anyone?

657
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:04,400
» I was just I'm trying to give some delay
so that you can get set up.

658
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:08,319
» Oh, well, thank you, your honor.
>> I'll do a song and dance routine.

659
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:13,599
» Oh, I'm thankful. That's the chief's
department, but um I did want to go back

660
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:17,680
to uh Officer Jeff um when the patch. He
did win the chili cookoff for the city

661
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:21,920
this last year. So maybe we should
create a patch for that. I don't know.

662
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:25,520
Not like Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts where
you get a badge if you

663
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:28,160
» I don't know.
>> I think maybe they should.

664
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:31,440
» It wouldn't be a bad idea.
>> Off.

665
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:34,160
» Yeah, they've been off for the last
couple of minutes.

666
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:40,880
» Trophy.
>> Is that your desktop there then?

667
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:44,119
» It is not.
>> See here.

668
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:54,880
Yeah, this is your department, isn't it?
>> We're working on phones and internet.

669
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,520
Sorry.
>> There are higher priorities.

670
00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:02,960
» Connectivity is kind of a big deal. Oh,
here he comes.

671
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:08,200
» Yeah,
>> usually we figure it out before we make

672
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:08,200
Kirk come out.

673
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:23,079
» That you're not in presenter mode. Or do
you want to be in presenter mode?

674
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:23,079
» I do. Yeah, that'd be great.

675
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:31,520
» Start it. Should have your notes here.
Should put

676
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:36,119
» So, if I just go ahead and do this
presenter right here.

677
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,160
» Look at that.
>> Look at that.

678
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:45,079
» Thank you, buddy.
>> Left him hanging.

679
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,079
» Oh, man.

680
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:51,520
» He's got work to do. All right,
>> back to the control tower.

681
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,880
» I would just like to mention I am so
grateful to the IT department. They are

682
00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:00,079
wonderful and they always help me with
my needs in a very very timely manner.

683
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:04,640
So, Mia, thanks to you and your crew.
Um, good evening your honor and uh

684
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:08,319
members of the city council. Again, I am
Gary Misho. I'm the community

685
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,839
development director and we have uh our
staff here tonight. We have a couple

686
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:15,760
that couldn't make it due to family
emergencies, but we're happy to be here

687
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:19,440
and give a report on the community
development department. Um, just a

688
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,000
little overview of the community
development department. We oversee

689
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:28,880
planning, zoning, permits, um,
registrations, contractor registrations,

690
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:32,680
and building permits and code compliance
and building maintenance.

691
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:39,760
And this is our department mission. It's
taken right off our page from the city

692
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:44,079
website. It is uh to promote the general
health, safety and welfare of the

693
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:49,040
citizens of Riverton to provide quality
services to assist the citizens with

694
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:53,280
code and permit processes and planning
and zoning processes. To work with

695
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,119
owners, developers and contractors to
achieve their goals and to work with

696
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:01,920
other city departments for a coordinated
effort towards excellence in customer

697
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:06,160
service.
So as part of that we uh our department

698
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,720
we deal with planning, zoning, building
construction and code enforcement. And

699
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:16,640
our code enforcement operates under the
current standards with the ICC codes uh

700
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:20,960
the 2024 international building codes
and uh the 2023 international or

701
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:25,839
national electrical code and these are
required by state statute and they are

702
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:30,079
updated uh the international building
codes are updated every three years. So,

703
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:34,960
we'll be looking at 2027, another update
there. Um, we also have a lot of

704
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:39,760
resources. We try to be resources for
the community with their questions um

705
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:45,200
with for property owners, for
contractors, um, con for construction

706
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:50,319
and building permits. We've got an
assortment of resources in the front.

707
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:55,119
When the citizens of Riverton walk in,
they can use as pamphlets that can help

708
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:59,359
them build decks or anything like that.
We especially take pride in having the

709
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:03,680
community development part department
open Monday through Friday 8 to 5:00 so

710
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,520
the public knows if they need to come in
and they need help or they want to get a

711
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:12,480
permit we are open and our our
department is super proud of that and we

712
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:16,640
also uh focus on records management.
It's really important that we keep good

713
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:23,440
track of our records, our plats, our
maps, our building permits, addresses,

714
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:28,000
lot history, things like that.
We have four full-time professionals in

715
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:32,160
the community development side. We have
myself as the community development

716
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:36,880
director. And we have Erin Troyer. He's
the facilities inspection manager. Um

717
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:40,400
Christy Peterson, who's who was the
permit technician. I hope she's home

718
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:45,520
watching and enjoying her retirement.
She just retired last week and um super

719
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:50,240
happy for her. And then we have Chelsea
Porter who is our community development

720
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,680
clerk.
And our department works under the

721
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:59,040
planning commission or we work with the
planning commission um with the board of

722
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:02,440
adjustment and with the uh construction
board of appeals

723
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:11,599
and um
I guess next Chelsea is it okay if I

724
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:16,599
hand this off to you for a presentation
on the planning side of things?

725
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,599
Absolutely.

726
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:23,119
» Your honor, council members, I'm Chelsea
Porter. I am the clerk for the community

727
01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:28,720
development department. In this
position, we I work directly with the

728
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:32,480
planning commission, but the community
development department is over the

729
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:37,280
planning commission and the construction
board of appeals. So, you also hear the

730
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:44,000
board of adjustments that is a
subcommittee of planning commission.

731
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:48,960
It's a little breakdown there for you.
So for fiscal year 26, I started

732
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:55,359
compiling the list based on what
happened in actual fiscal year 26. So

733
01:01:51,920 --> 01:02:01,760
here is a breakdown of the meetings that
we've had, some of the economic drivers

734
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:06,880
and the actions that we have
had happen

735
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:12,000
since my time as the community
development clerk in November of 2024

736
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:16,880
through March of 2026.
That chart kind of gives you an

737
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:22,040
breakdown of the different projects that
I've been involved in during my time

738
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,359
in an effort to save everybody's time. I
will not go through each one

739
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,079
individually.
>> Oh, we were planning on that.

740
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,760
» Um, Christy helped us put this together
before she left. I'll let Gary take it

741
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,520
back over from there unless there are
any questions for me.

742
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,280
» Any questions?
Did Christie retire just to not have to

743
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:45,440
do this? Is that the power of not
wanting

744
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:50,880
» suspicion?
>> Yeah,

745
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:54,319
» thanks Chelsea. We That's correct. Yes.
And uh so our planning commission and

746
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:59,200
board of adjustments meets the first and
third Thursdays of the month and so we

747
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:03,599
have them almost you regularly unless
there's no official business between for

748
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:08,319
them to address. But Chelsea, thank you
for that. I appreciate it. Uh so Christy

749
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:12,480
did put this chart together before she
left for us. This talks about the

750
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:17,359
building department and the permits.
Over the past three years, we've

751
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:20,880
processed almost 1,900 permits. Um
actually I did some calculations. I

752
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:25,119
think she processed almost 20,000
permits in our time building permits

753
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:29,440
with the city of Riverton, which is
impressive.

754
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:34,799
Um construction trends, we had new
single family residences, 11 in 2025,

755
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:40,480
which was a 37% increase over the year
before. Um 41 major alterations and

756
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:46,079
material projects uh for residential
improvements as well. And then if you

757
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:51,920
look on the top uh row there, you'll see
that uh we have re-roof permits from 23,

758
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:58,559
24, and 25. We had a a hail storm was
there in that came through and um had a

759
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:02,400
lot of re- roofs uh in that time of 700
and some. It it was incredible. So,

760
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:06,319
we're just getting through that. And
then we had that big windstorm that came

761
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:12,160
through three or four weeks ago. So, now
we're seeing a lot of re-roofs come

762
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:16,240
through again. And um guess it's just
what happens with the weather. But, uh a

763
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:22,799
lot of lot of stuff going. We're seeing
the U building permits are staying

764
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:27,520
strong. Uh a lot of stuff going on and
things are going really well there. Um

765
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:32,960
as far as the code enforcement process,
um our mission is to safeguard health,

766
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:37,359
safety and property and public welfare
through the enforcement of city adopted

767
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:42,720
technical codes and ordinances. Um
through the enforcement and also through

768
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:47,200
education and um the compliance process.
What we try and do is we we get a lot of

769
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:51,520
citizen reports and we'll try and
address those. We also do employee

770
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:56,480
observation, but once we learn about
something, we try and take a lot of time

771
01:04:53,839 --> 01:05:04,160
to um research and find out what's
really going on before we do anything.

772
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:09,280
Um and then we try and work with the um
with the people that are involved to

773
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:14,400
solve things amicably, find out what's
going on and just resolve the issues

774
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:19,119
versus um you know creating a lot of
conflict there. Um common neighborhood

775
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:24,880
issues, we've got construction without
permits or illegal structures. We see

776
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:28,640
that and um contractor registration,
temporary merchants. So when you see

777
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:33,359
these food trucks around town, across
the street or whatever, they have to be

778
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:37,680
registered with us and um so we have we
keep track of that. Home occupations,

779
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:41,839
things like that,
>> Mr. Misho. And if I recall that

780
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,960
temporary permitting
process came about with

781
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:50,319
Councilman Carr
or who was it that came up with that?

782
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:54,720
When did that come about? Do you
remember

783
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,839
» for the temporary merchants?
>> It was just before I

784
01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:00,000
» was just before you came in
>> slurs.

785
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:05,520
» And I think it's important for people to
recognize that because our code as it

786
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:11,839
stands would suggest you can't be just
selling food on the street corner. And

787
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:16,240
so we wanted to build because the
recognition was food trucks are becoming

788
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:21,680
a thing. We wanted to build into our
code a way that we can do that. I mean,

789
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:25,520
even we had, of course, Phil's dog
shack, which has been around for years,

790
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:30,480
but we kind of cobbled together some
sort of Frankenstein way to be able to

791
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:34,880
have them allowed to operate, but the
temporary merchant permit just makes

792
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:38,160
that much easier and appreciate all the
work you do with that.

793
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,000
» Well, thank you. I I have to give credit
to Chelsea for that and she makes the

794
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:45,839
process really easy. So, if you're a
temporary merchant out there or you want

795
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:49,520
to become one, contact Chelsea. she'll
get you set up um quick

796
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,839
» and it's not a complicated process. We
just want to make sure that you're

797
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:58,000
uh certified with like the Department of
Agriculture so that you're not like

798
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,400
serving something that's illegal.
>> Properly preparing

799
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:04,720
» Yeah. Yeah. properly preparing food.
That's a good way to put it. And we want

800
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:08,079
to make sure that we're aware of you and
we know how to get a hold of you if

801
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,160
there's any issues and you're
registered. I mean, it's not a very

802
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:11,839
complex thing. And
>> sales tax.

803
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:16,000
» Yeah.
>> Yes. Complying with the sales tax

804
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,720
requirements as well. Mhm.
>> Anyway, just

805
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:24,079
» thank you for that, Mayor. I appreciate
it. Yes. And uh cont again, just

806
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:27,200
contractor registration. So, if you're
going to be doing work in the city of

807
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Riverton, I just want to take this
opportunity to say, you know, make sure

808
01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:36,720
you get your project permitted. And
also, if you're a contractor, please

809
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,720
come in and register as a contract with
the city. Contractor with the city.

810
01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:45,920
Again, you just need to contact Chelsea.
You can contact me, too. We just want

811
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,920
you to get set up.

812
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:53,599
All right. And then our building
inspector, um, he works closely with

813
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:58,880
property owners and contractors during
the conceptual design phase, also during

814
01:07:56,319 --> 01:08:02,480
the construction phase. Um, he completes
inspections throughout a project's

815
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:05,520
process. It's just not it's not
typically like, okay, you get the

816
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:09,920
building permit and then we do the final
inspection. There's usually inspections

817
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:15,119
that happen throughout that process. Um
he provides some he provides great

818
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:19,679
expertise in building construction. He's
ICC certified. He's done a great job

819
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:24,719
getting some certifications with that.
Um he including the building plan

820
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:29,440
reviews. He does a lot of our um all of
our building plan reviews and ensures

821
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:33,199
that our codes are followed. So through
that whole process, we try and

822
01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:38,159
collaborate and work closely with
contractors, property owners, everyone

823
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:42,719
to help make sure that this process goes
as smoothly as possible.

824
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:45,920
» And you have someone here with you that
kind of looks a little building

825
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:49,520
inspector. Would it be possible to have
him come up to the mic and introduce

826
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:54,000
himself?
>> Your honor, we could absolutely have

827
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:58,080
him. And that's actually a great uh
continuence into what we're doing with

828
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:00,799
our next uh parts. We want to highlight
some of the projects that have been

829
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:04,080
going on in Riverton over the next
years. So Erin, if you want to come up

830
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:08,400
and introduce yourself real quick and
then we'll

831
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:13,440
» Hi all, my name is Aaron Troyer. Happy
to be here. Um, we'll just go through

832
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:16,799
some of these projects. There's not a
lot to note as far as negatives. They

833
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:22,880
all went really smooth, all the
commercial stuff this year. So um, this

834
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:28,080
first one here was up by the airport.
Just basic quite huts for some good

835
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:32,960
storage. pretty beefy footing and stem
wall. Um the only issue with that was

836
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:37,440
there appeared to be some ash in the
soil and looked like kind of could be

837
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:41,040
concerning but engineer checked it out
and it was fine. So other than that it

838
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:45,520
went smooth and
um it's not quite done yet. They still

839
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:49,799
have to do some flooring monos slab and
some door work and then it'll be

840
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:49,799
complete.

841
01:09:52,640 --> 01:10:02,800
» Yeah. Then the AT&T building got a
complete revamp inside.

842
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:08,080
Um, new ADA bathroom, our new cosmetic
turned out real nice. Um, went real

843
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:14,880
smooth. This one
went up fairly fast. Um, no issues.

844
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:21,920
Customer seems happy. Good contractors
on that one. Good asset to have in town.

845
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:26,800
uh pergola I designed for public works
department.

846
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:31,520
Um it's per IBC spec so it's probably a
little overly beefed up but it's never

847
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:34,239
going to go anywhere and it was pretty
cost effective. The materials didn't

848
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,600
cost that much and it turned out real
nice and Rusty and his crew did a good

849
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,560
job assembling it. They did everything
they were supposed to and it turned out

850
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:44,239
real nice. I think they're going to add
some stain to it. I don't know if they

851
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:48,560
did or not but I think they're going to
that's the plan moving forward. Is there

852
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:52,159
any plan by the way for the shelter over
there at Sunset Park? Any sort of

853
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:56,159
modifications or anything we're going to
be doing here coming up?

854
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:59,679
» Yeah, there I'd been approached about
that and kind of put together something.

855
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:03,600
I haven't heard recently, but I think
there's a plan to possibly rebuild that

856
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:06,719
one.
>> This one's kind of neat because it's got

857
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,600
slats on top, too. So, you could add
like a shade, temporary shade or

858
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,679
something if you wanted to or your an
event or whatever hanging out

859
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:16,239
underneath.
>> Great.

860
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:22,400
Um, this is the Freedom Liquor Edition.
A new refrigerator

861
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:26,960
um area, all new refrigeration units.
Turned out real nice. Um, they tied it

862
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:32,719
into the existing building real nice.
It's not quite complete yet just due to

863
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:39,159
some of the reefer stuff, but um, yeah,
they're very happy and

864
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:39,159
they'll be able to stock more

865
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:47,040
Fremont Center. Um figured we'd put this
in there because it was a county

866
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:52,080
project. They got a new Durlast roof. Um
quite a bit of square footage, large

867
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:58,719
roof. Turned out real nice.
Uh the airplane hanger um turned out

868
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,640
exceptional. Concrete work was
beautiful. Um

869
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:06,080
there was some debate on the firewall
when it started, but we're able to work

870
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:12,480
around that.
Um yeah, the owners are very happy and

871
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:17,679
it turned out extremely nice.
no issues.

872
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:22,480
Uh midway out on an RV. We're looking to
move in fast.

873
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:26,400
Um so they have a pre-manufactured
building and took a little bit of

874
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:30,800
planning just to make it up to
standards, city standards. We got ADA

875
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:36,159
parking. They have a nice apron
approaching the deck and the ramp for

876
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:40,960
ADA access.
Um, and then the occupancy, you know, we

877
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:45,840
made it to where a family could get in
there, you know, for complete sales and

878
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:49,679
they seem to be happy. I'm not sure if
their plan is to stay there or not. Um,

879
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,840
but I think they're doing well so far on
sales and everything. So, we'll see what

880
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:59,360
happens with that if not sure what their
future plan is, but it's set up to where

881
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:05,360
they could stay.
Um, smart start preschool. Um you can

882
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:11,440
see the picture on the left there.
That's it's a 2,000 square foot edition

883
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:18,000
increasing their school size. It's uh
the monos lab is a structural monos lab

884
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:21,600
also with the footing. And um we went
with the ADA bathrooms. It's not so much

885
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:28,159
the kids are going to need them but for
future if they end up moving or selling.

886
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:33,280
So nice ADA bathrooms and um egress
getting out and entry ADA.

887
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:38,400
And then the Riverton High School
auditorium um went very smooth about as

888
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,719
smooth as it could be for a project like
that. Turned out it's beautiful. I don't

889
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:47,840
know if everyone's seen that or not, but
it holds around 800 people approximately

890
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:53,719
850 people or something like that. Gary
might have the exact number, but

891
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,719
» that sounds about right. Yeah.

892
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,280
But it turned out really nice. I'd
recommend taking a look if you haven't

893
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,760
checked it out.
>> They've been doing a lot of plays and

894
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:04,320
different stuff there. They've been
using it a lot.

895
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,400
» Good. Yeah, it's it's an awesome
facility.

896
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,760
» It actually was a little bit of a
competition between them and the middle

897
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:13,360
school, but the middle school was able
to do the first plays there and they

898
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,760
kind of have that as a feather in their
cap that they were the first ones to

899
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,320
use.
>> I think they did a play there for u they

900
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,440
brought a bunch of people back that were
in the speech and debate on that stuff.

901
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,719
My daughter actually performed today and
it does look very nice. It's very cool

902
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:32,239
in there.
>> Nice space.

903
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:36,960
» And then we have the Amazon building.
Um, another project that went extremely

904
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:40,400
well. It took a while to get started um
to get all the ducks in a row to get it

905
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:44,800
moving. But once it started, it went
fine. In the winter cooperated because

906
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,239
they had a lot of concrete work, which
would have been a problem, but the way

907
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:53,920
the winter was, it didn't even matter.
Didn't phase project at all. Um, turned

908
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,199
out real nice. Customer was happy. All
the deadlines were met. They were

909
01:14:55,440 --> 01:15:00,719
worried about that, but they met it
right up to the deadline. They were

910
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:06,080
finished right on time.
Um, they ended up using electric heat

911
01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:10,320
and not gas. So, that was kind of
different. But, um, other than that,

912
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:14,640
everything turned out real nice. Not
that that didn't, but it was just

913
01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:19,239
different, you know. Um, and I think the
customer's happy. We haven't heard any

914
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:19,239
complaints.

915
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:27,199
And then the new hospital, I only had
one inspection there that was for the

916
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:30,080
gas um natural gas system. Other than
not the city, the department of health

917
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,840
has taken over that and the city hasn't
had much to do with it. But that's

918
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,560
looking really nice. It's a neat uh
floor plan. When you walk in there, it's

919
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:39,520
all open, the windows and everything
when you go inside. So, I think that's

920
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,520
going to be really pretty when it's
done.

921
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,840
And I'll hand it back to Gary.

922
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:53,120
» Didn't mean to throw you off, Gary.
Mayor, we're doing great. You just

923
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,880
worked worked perfect in our plans and
just as the council can see, we've had a

924
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:00,480
lot of projects this last year that we
should be really proud of as a

925
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:04,000
community. Um Aaron did a nice job
helping facilitate those through the

926
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:08,320
building process and thank you for that,
Aaron.

927
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:11,440
Uh and also under our department, we do
have the building maintenance department

928
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,800
and Blaine Hughes is our building
maintenance coordinator. He came on this

929
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:20,880
last year. He's been doing a great job.
Blaine is back here. Um he's done a a

930
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:24,800
lot of works independently, always
working on doing something to make it

931
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:28,400
better around our facilities. Um lately
he's been working on the airport up

932
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:32,320
there with the lawns and getting the
sprinkler systems going with some

933
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:38,480
issues. But also he's been managing the
HVAC upgrades that project that we have

934
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:43,120
going on. And um just last week the
contractor came in and put the last two

935
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:47,199
rooftop units up on at the airport. In
another week, um the contractor from

936
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:51,520
Denver, the train is going to come and
do some finetuning and we should be in

937
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:55,280
good shape to close that project out
before the end of the fiscal year. And

938
01:16:53,360 --> 01:17:00,800
and Bla has just done a great job. He's
a great hand with that and sure

939
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:05,440
appreciate it. Um we also have um Paul
Cross here. Paul is another ded we just

940
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:09,040
have such a great dedicated facilities
maintenance staff. Paul will step up and

941
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:13,760
do whatever whatever is needed to be
done anytime. And um does a lot of work

942
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:20,560
up at at the airport and public works,
but again, he'll step in anytime. So,

943
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:25,600
appreciate that. Um Anna Rose Green was
not able to make it here tonight because

944
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:31,679
of family emergency. Um she works hard
also. an we've got her on and she works

945
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:35,520
super hard um to to make sure that they
take a lot of pride in making sure that

946
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:39,520
our facilities are super clean and
having a method and a process to keep

947
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:44,640
doing that day after day and week after
week. So, like I said, can't say it

948
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:50,480
enough, a dedicated staff.
Uh lastly, we've got goals. Um, of

949
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:54,159
course, we want to provide superior
customer service, keep our offices open

950
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:58,239
from 8:00 to 5:00 Monday through Friday,
and help help the community out. Um,

951
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:02,960
work closely with businesses,
developers, and residents and

952
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:07,199
contractors. Um, we've got a lot of
deferred maintenance here at city hall,

953
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:10,480
a ton that we're going to need to
address in the next couple years, and

954
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:16,239
we've put together a list of those
projects. um continue ICC training for

955
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:20,640
our certifications, including getting a
new permit tech hired on in the very

956
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:24,640
near future and getting them certified
with permit tech. Of course, we've got

957
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:28,080
the EPA Brownfield communitywide
assessment grant that we're working

958
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:32,480
through. That's $500,000.
There's no match or anything. We've

959
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:36,480
hired AIRS as our consultant and they're
working through that. We're going to

960
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:41,280
have a steering committee meeting and a
kickoff here in the next month. Um and

961
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:45,520
then I I don't want to forget this.
We've been working super hard on the

962
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:50,719
250th
by Quinn Centennial celebration

963
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:56,080
um for our country and this is a really
big deal you guys. It's the 250 50th

964
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:59,600
celebration of the signing of one of the
most historical documents in the world,

965
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:04,080
the signing of the Declaration of
Independence. And it's just an honor to

966
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:08,000
get to work on that and see all the
pride coming out in our community. And

967
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:12,480
of course, just to kind of look at it
through a 30,000 foot view, we're always

968
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:16,320
focusing on providing excellence in the
rendevous city.

969
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,560
» So, thank you.
>> Would it be possible to have Mr. Hughes

970
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:24,840
and Mr. Cross come up just so we can see
their faces up close here?

971
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:31,800
show.
>> Hey, see,

972
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:41,199
» it's just that that way you could kind
of have that that uh worry out of the

973
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:45,040
way so we don't lose you down the road
the next time we want you to come.

974
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:51,280
» Thanks.
>> Appreciate Appreciate you both. And I'm

975
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:56,800
I I I really do think that you guys do a
great job. I will say um

976
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,120
you're exactly right, Mr. Misho. We
definitely have some deferred

977
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:03,440
maintenance we got to take care of in
our in some of our facilities. I know

978
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:08,239
even when I was on the council, so we're
talking

979
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:12,000
» eight eight years ago rather than just
in the last four years. We've been

980
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:18,480
talking about replacing the carpet in
this place for at least eight years now.

981
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:22,480
Finally, we did fix and replace the
carpet in the police department, but we

982
01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:25,760
need to get the rest of it done. So, in
case anyone out there is like, "Your

983
01:20:23,679 --> 01:20:31,040
carpet looks terrible." We know. We're
working on it. It still looks good. It's

984
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:38,640
washed. It's regularly carpet cleaned.
You guys are on it, and I appreciate it.

985
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:42,960
But, yeah. So, but I mean anytime I'm in
one of the restrooms, in one of the any

986
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:47,840
of the rooms here, our uh building
maintenance staff does an excellent job

987
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:53,840
at just making it feel good. You It
doesn't matter what time of day. I'm

988
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:58,320
here in the evenings randomly and Diana
is always out there cleaning and doing

989
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:03,040
stuff and so you guys do great work and
it's noticed. Okay.

990
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:06,719
Anything
else before we let Gary sit down?

991
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,480
» I do have a question, your honor.
>> Sure.

992
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:15,280
» And you're going to say you're the one
that's been doing it, but

993
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:20,239
I routinely get calls from folks um that
have concerns about cleanliness and some

994
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:24,480
of the hotels locally. Um and I always
refer them down here to you. I don't

995
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:28,800
know if that's the correct method or who
they should be talking to. Can you

996
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:32,320
elaborate on that a little bit? who I
should be referring them to, or is that

997
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:37,440
something that your department deals
with after the fact, after the build,

998
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:41,600
after the inspection process?
>> Um, your honor, uh, Councilwoman

999
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:45,440
Johnson, yes, that's correct. So, if
they have issues with different things

1000
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:49,360
with buildings, uh, our department is
the correct department to contact and

1001
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:54,480
they're welcome to contact me. Um, when
it comes to like yards and sidewalks,

1002
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:58,320
vehicles, whatever, that's more of a cso
officer job, but we work seamlessly. we

1003
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,600
work together in trying to communicate
those and and take care of them.

1004
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:04,800
» Thank you. So,
>> you're saying to some extent that might

1005
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:08,159
get into code enforcement and that sort
of thing where you might be getting

1006
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:10,800
involved as the community development
department.

1007
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,080
» That's very well put, your honor.
>> Yes.

1008
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,520
» Okay.
>> I just wanted to make sure I was making

1009
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,760
» sure talk to the right people. So, thank
you.

1010
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:23,440
» Yeah. The last thing you want to do is
just somebody send somebody down a black

1011
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:28,400
hole where nothing ever happens.
>> Well, great. Anything else?

1012
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,080
Appreciate you, Mr. Misho. Keep up the
good work.

1013
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,120
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you for your crew being here.

1014
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,920
Thanks for coming here and sticking
around a little bit after hours.

1015
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:42,000
» It's always good to be able to get faces
to names, right?

1016
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,120
» Mind you, I've seen all of you. I
recognize all of your faces, but it's

1017
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:49,760
good to be able to have the community
see you and be able to recognize you.

1018
01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:52,760
So, keep up the good work.
Okay.

1019
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:58,239
» Yes. Let's take a recess.
>> Anybody okay with that?

1020
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:03,760
» Yeah.
>> Yes.

1021
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:07,199
» Okay. We'll take a recess. It's 8:2.
Let's take a recess until We'll take a

1022
01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:11,239
little longer than usual. Maybe go to
8:35.

1023
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:11,239
» Okay.

1024
01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:20,719
» It's 8:36. I even had a longer break and
it still wasn't enough time. It's my own

1025
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:27,120
fault.
We are back in session for our regular

1026
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:31,600
meeting uh at 8:36.
Just got done with the community

1027
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:36,480
development department annual report. Uh
next item on the agenda is consideration

1028
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:43,520
of resolution 1549
1550 and 1551 utility rate adjustments.

1029
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,600
Um
I guess do we have a motion in regards

1030
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:52,400
to this agenda item? I know we had
approved the agenda as was, but did we

1031
01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:55,520
want to go through this tonight or where
do we want to go?

1032
01:23:53,600 --> 01:24:00,960
» Your honor, I would suggest with the
amount of stuff we have left and that

1033
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,880
that we move this discussion off to our
next regular meeting.

1034
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:09,520
» Okay. So, would that be I guess would it
to be to table it or how would we do

1035
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:13,520
that? Just kind of set this at the next
agenda,

1036
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:16,400
» your honor. Um, it's not necessary to
table because you don't have a motion on

1037
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:19,600
the floor to table, but I think you
could remove it. You'd amend your agenda

1038
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:22,639
to remove it if that's what you wanted
to do.

1039
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:25,760
» Okay. So, your motion is to amend the
agenda to remove it. Do we have a second

1040
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:32,239
on that?
>> Oh, just a quick I'll second, but we're

1041
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,960
not going to run into any delays on
budget if we

1042
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:39,040
» No.
>> Yeah. Second.

1043
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:45,120
» Okay. Motion and a second to remove item
13 from the agenda. get this set up for

1044
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,560
our next council meeting. Um, all in
favor say I.

1045
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,520
» I.
>> I.

1046
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:56,719
» Any oppose say nay.
I vote I. Motion passes. Item 13. We'll

1047
01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:58,880
move that on. We'll have our
opportunity for people to discuss and

1048
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,520
everything.
>> I'm just curious if any of our audience

1049
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:07,440
members came here to speak to this.
Maybe we should hear them since they

1050
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:11,760
bothered come here. Was there anyone
here who was wanting to talk about

1051
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:15,520
utility rate adjustments?
Why don't you go ahead and come on up?

1052
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:18,880
We can hear from you now and then if you
want to come back at our next meeting,

1053
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,040
you're welcome to as well.
>> It'll give you some time to do your

1054
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:28,480
homework.
>> Sure. We like homework.

1055
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:31,679
» If you recall, Chancy was I was here
last year.

1056
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:35,679
» Yes. And I that's why I didn't say your
name because I never have done well at

1057
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:40,880
your last name. I'm sorry, Chanse.
That's fine. If you recall, Mr. Mayor, I

1058
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:46,280
told you last year that I was going to
be here. I was going to ask you guys a

1059
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,280
question this year.

1060
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:53,199
I told you that I was going to come here
and ask you, did my rate increases help

1061
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:57,679
us catch up on projects or have we
fallen farther behind?

1062
01:25:55,440 --> 01:26:02,239
You followed that up with the discussion
regarding the

1063
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:07,360
number of projects outlined in the
capital improvement plan.

1064
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:12,880
uh
that number that got kicked around last

1065
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:16,400
year was 20. So my question would be how
many projects did we knock off of that

1066
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:21,199
list and how many projects did we add to
it?

1067
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:25,120
» Great question. We could discuss that
more at the next meeting. I can tell you

1068
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:30,480
uh we had a lot of different things like
uh ultraviolet

1069
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:35,760
and the uh what is that called for the I
I knew I was going to butcher it,

1070
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:40,000
» your honor. Yeah. the ultraviolet uh
room for disinfection and then also the

1071
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:43,840
clarifier project. There were there were
several and I'm so glad that you've come

1072
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:48,080
back. This was something staff discussed
because we anticipated this question. So

1073
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:52,719
» So if if you want we could report next
time or we could report now. It's up to

1074
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:56,239
you and kind of let you know we're good
either way. Mr. Lzeski,

1075
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:58,320
» I'm happy to come next time.
>> Okay.

1076
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,120
» I do have one other followup from last
year.

1077
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:03,840
» Great.
>> There was a lovely couple here. Uh I

1078
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,840
apologize if I butcher a name. I believe
it was Linda Drury. She was complaining

1079
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:12,480
about a fire hydrant that hadn't been
fixed in a couple decades. I think a

1080
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,840
year is a pretty decent timeline for
getting something like that fixed. I'd

1081
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,080
like to know if that has been fixed.
>> Perfect. We'll make sure we discuss

1082
01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:19,840
that.
>> Yeah,

1083
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,679
» I think that was something that we took
care of almost right away.

1084
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,840
» I think that was part of the Spruce
Street

1085
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,520
» improvement project that it was
replaced.

1086
01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:31,520
» Mr. Tolman.
>> Yeah, your honor. uh that those hydrants

1087
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:35,760
have been not only updated, they've been
moved to a ideal location so that

1088
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:40,000
everybody's covered with fire protection
in that area and then one more has been

1089
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:44,719
added as well. So there was um three
hydrants uh removed and then four

1090
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:50,239
installed with with this the with the
project and that was u funded over 50%

1091
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:54,080
by mineral royalty grants and then the
city matched that with capital

1092
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:59,040
improvement project grants. So 50% was
matched with water and sewer fund of

1093
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:01,520
that project. About $800,000 project.
Good deal.

1094
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:03,040
» Okay. Thank you. I look forward to next
time.

1095
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,040
» Thank you.
>> Thanks.

1096
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:15,760
» All right. New National Opioid
Settlement Agreement, Six Remnant

1097
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:18,880
Defendants. That just the title of this
just excites me.

1098
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,280
» Mr. Butterfield,
>> tell us about it.

1099
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:25,120
» Thank you, your honor. A lot of this
information is in your packet. I'll be

1100
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:29,360
uh brief because I know you you have a
lot of business tonight. Essentially,

1101
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:34,960
there is another opportunity part to
participate in nationwide settlements as

1102
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:40,639
it relates to the opioid uh epidemic.
The six remnant defendant settlement uh

1103
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:45,280
is dated became available in February of
2026.

1104
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:50,320
And what it does is it identifies um six
regional pharmaceutical distributors and

1105
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:58,480
dispensers that were not part of the
initial major opioid settlements.

1106
01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:04,199
These six uh remnant defendants
um settled in an amount of 97,625,000

1107
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:12,719
uh dollars. And um unlike the previous
settlements,

1108
01:29:10,719 --> 01:29:19,040
uh these funds will not be routed
through state attorneys general

1109
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:24,239
» but directly allocated to participating
uh local governments.

1110
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:32,600
The city of Riverton has opportunity to
opt into this and um it is eligible for

1111
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,600
point23%

1112
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:42,320
of the $97 million that equates to
$2,310.94

1113
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:46,560
and that's an estimate at this point. So
if you choose to opt into uh this

1114
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:51,679
settlement agreement that is what is
estimated that will be received in a

1115
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:55,520
one-time payment.
Thus far, the city of Riverton has

1116
01:29:53,679 --> 01:29:59,760
received to date, and this is as
reported on the National Opioid

1117
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:03,000
Settlement uh website
uh $246,31262.

1118
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:12,880
There will be uh subsequent uh
settlement payments pursuant to the

1119
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:19,760
agreements that the city council has
already entered into and uh we

1120
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:24,480
anticipate receiving um an additional
approximate $500,000 from the other

1121
01:30:22,239 --> 01:30:31,199
settlements that you've already engaged
in. And that would be and excuse me, I

1122
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:35,760
had a a mistype in the staff report. I
had said through 2037, but I did not

1123
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:39,280
take into account the additional Purdue
family settlement, and that runs through

1124
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:43,440
2041.
So, these are funds that will be

1125
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:48,239
allocated annually for the uh several
years to come. Your honor, with that, I

1126
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,520
recommend that you enter into this
agreement and give signatory authority

1127
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:55,440
to the city administrator to get those
documents off.

1128
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:59,199
» Okay. I'd entertain a motion to do that.
opt into the six remnant defendant

1129
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,480
settlement agreement and give signatory
authority to the city administrator for

1130
01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:05,679
us to enter into that litigation.
>> So moved.

1131
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:13,400
» Second.
>> Motion by councilwoman Johnson, second

1132
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:13,400
by councilwoman Borders. Any discussion?

1133
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:18,120
» It would be the attorney on this,

1134
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:25,040
your honor. Um, forgive me. I'm I'm um
forgetting the name right now. Let me

1135
01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:29,920
provide it back to you. It's the same
attorney that has been working with us

1136
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:35,920
on the 1 Y and 1 Y2 settlements.
>> Okay, that's what I thought. Okay,

1137
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,719
all in favor say I.
>> I.

1138
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:41,440
» I.
>> Any oppose say nay.

1139
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:45,199
» I vote I. Motion passes. Consultant
selection real estate services. Mr.

1140
01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:48,719
Butterfield.
>> Thank you, your honor. If you don't

1141
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:51,600
mind, let me just pull up the right
report.

1142
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:54,159
» Oh, I'm trying to rush you. That's my
goal.

1143
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:57,040
» Okay.
I'm ready.

1144
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,880
» Go ahead, please.
>> Uh, the city of Riverton has engaged

1145
01:31:58,639 --> 01:32:07,360
with a local licensed real estate broker
since 2011 to assist with the marketing

1146
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:12,880
and sale of lots located at the RAIW
industrial park energy, excuse me,

1147
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:16,639
Energy Industrial Park and Wind River
Air Park.

1148
01:32:14,639 --> 01:32:20,719
City has also relied on this broker to
assist with other professional real

1149
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:25,760
estate projects and services. The
contract with this broker expired in

1150
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:29,040
March of 2026. In light of that
expiration, the city solicited

1151
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:34,320
statements of qualification and
experience from local firms

1152
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:39,520
uh and specifically firms within the
corporate limits of the city of

1153
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:44,800
Riverton. Uh the RFQ or statements of
requests for statements of qualification

1154
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:49,840
centered on um a firm that could provide
marketing, evaluation, acquisition,

1155
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:54,719
exchange and also the disposition of
real property and that could inude

1156
01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:59,360
include both private properties, excuse
me, private parties and also public

1157
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:04,480
agencies.
Two local brokerages responded to the

1158
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,400
request for qualification. A selection
committee pursuant to the city's uh

1159
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:13,199
professional services selection policy
was established

1160
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:17,679
consisted of two staff members and one
elected official. Included in your

1161
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:22,719
packet um are the ratings of the
selection committee of the two

1162
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:29,679
proposals. They were rated across four
um metrics. the submittal quality and

1163
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:34,080
completeness uh of the proposal, the
experience of the firm, the

1164
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:39,280
qualifications specific to the project
team, and then also an understanding of

1165
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:45,040
the requested services. Both firms
scored very high and represent um firms

1166
01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:53,199
that could do the work that was
requested. That being said, home source

1167
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:58,719
re realy uh rated higher
than Snyder signature properties by the

1168
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:04,400
selection committee. The city council
has opportunity now to um enter into a

1169
01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:11,520
contract negotiation with the highest
highest rated firm. It also could direct

1170
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:15,280
staff to conduct uh further interviews
with the two firms if you'd like to get

1171
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:20,560
more information before making that
recommendation. Thank you, your honor.

1172
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:28,239
» Thank you. I appreciate it.
>> I'd entertain a motion um

1173
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:34,400
regards to the selection of uh real
estate services and uh directing staff

1174
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:37,920
to finalize a contract for the services.
Move to select the highest rated firm.

1175
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:46,600
» Second.
>> Motion by Councilman Carr. Second by

1176
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:46,600
Councilman Bailey, Councilwoman Johnson.

1177
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,000
» Any other discussion.

1178
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,080
» All in favor say I.
>> I.

1179
01:34:53,840 --> 01:35:01,760
» Any oppose say nay.
>> I vote I. Motion passes.

1180
01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:06,960
Next up on our agenda is Pause for Life
Animal League discussion.

1181
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:13,360
Mr. Butterfield was struggling with what
in the world would we ever put as this

1182
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:18,960
for a staff report and I said leave it
to me Mr. Butterfield

1183
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:22,239
and he said okay. So that's where we're
at. So let me kind of introduce the

1184
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,600
topic and then we'll have you guys come
up if you don't mind. You can come up

1185
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:29,280
now if you want but then you're just
going to be standing there while I talk

1186
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:33,440
and nobody likes that.
So, first I want to say we've got this

1187
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:36,639
on the agenda and the way id asked him
to do it was pause for life animal leak

1188
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:41,440
discussion and afterwards I realized
this actually is not quite the way that

1189
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:46,880
it needs to be framed.
Um

1190
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:51,440
at least if if online people are to be
believed if somebody uses the word

1191
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:55,280
euthanasia up here everybody decides to
donate to pause. So, if that's going to

1192
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:59,040
be the reaction, I'm going to just say
it all the time because if it means that

1193
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:04,320
pause gets more money, that's what I
want. So, um

1194
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:08,400
I was just joking with Mr. Bailey about
that. A little bit of uh what would you

1195
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:11,199
call that? Reverse psychology.
>> Yeah.

1196
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:17,679
Um,
so I I I want to say that when it comes

1197
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:23,280
to the importance of what PAUSE does
and their mission in terms of being a

1198
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:30,159
non-kill shelter and wanting to be able
to ensure that the animals in our town,

1199
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:34,560
animals in our county have a place to
stay until they are adopted and

1200
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:40,960
encouraging adoption. I fully support
that mission. That is I was talking with

1201
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:44,400
Pam Canam about this and I've gone to a
couple of Paws and Pearls or different

1202
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:48,000
PAUS
uh events and I think from our

1203
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:53,280
recollection at least I'm the only mayor
that's ever done that sitting mayor. Not

1204
01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:58,880
that I'm saying that nobody has ever
done it but not saying that I'm not

1205
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:04,639
saying that to toot my horn. I'm saying
that to say I have put my money where my

1206
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:11,199
mouth is on that and have donated to PA
in different uh fundraisers and that

1207
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:16,800
sort of thing. So this isn't a question
of is PA good or is PA a good

1208
01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:22,159
organization or is PA a worthy
organization.

1209
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:27,760
This comes down to
what I want to discuss is we have an

1210
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:33,040
obligation. Our obligation as the city
of Riverton, under our ordinances, we

1211
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:36,960
are required to impound animals that are
large. It's at large. It's not

1212
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:42,080
discretionary. It's not if we feel like
it. If there's an animal at large, we're

1213
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:46,280
supposed to be impounding them. Um, it's
a core public safety function.

1214
01:37:46,639 --> 01:37:56,800
So, part of where we run into issues is
that's our op that's our requirement.

1215
01:37:54,719 --> 01:38:01,920
Now we need to make sure that that is
met

1216
01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:06,639
and we are in a situation where pause
whether it's due to funding or whether

1217
01:38:03,679 --> 01:38:12,239
it's due to whatever it might be is put
in an untenable position where we come

1218
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:18,719
in with an animal and they don't have
space. So then that puts us in this

1219
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:24,400
position where we have this statutory
ordinance-wise obligation to be able to

1220
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:29,520
make sure that animals at large for
public safety concerns, for safety

1221
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:34,800
concerns, all of that are seized and
impounded.

1222
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:40,080
But we have paws who cannot step up and
take those animals at times.

1223
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:44,639
So this has been ongoing. This has been
going on for years. We know it. This has

1224
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:48,880
been something that has been a problem.
Pause recognizes it as a problem. The

1225
01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:54,320
city recognizes it as a problem.
Something needs to be done about it.

1226
01:38:51,360 --> 01:39:00,320
Now, if the city could say, "If we put
this much money into it, it's going to

1227
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:05,920
solve the problem." That'd be great. But
that's a little bit hard to do because

1228
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:09,679
we have space constraints.
We have a lot of different things that

1229
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:14,560
we're constrained by in terms of pause
using the city building to be able to

1230
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:19,119
complete their mission.
So,

1231
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:23,760
what I had talked about at our last
meeting, and I didn't want to have this

1232
01:39:21,199 --> 01:39:27,840
become something that I was a bit
hypocritical, and I told this to

1233
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:31,760
Councilwoman Johnson, where I was like,
let's not have this turn into something

1234
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:34,560
besides we're going to consider these
applicants and be able to decide what

1235
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:39,360
we're going to do and how much money
would go to them. But what I had

1236
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:43,040
discussed at our last meeting is we need
to be able to wrap our arms around this

1237
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:48,560
and figure out what we're going to do
because the city has an obligation under

1238
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:54,000
our ordinances to ensure
that dogs at large are taken and they

1239
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:59,119
have a place to stay. They're held for 5
days. Whatever else happens to them

1240
01:39:56,320 --> 01:40:03,760
after that, city code does allow them to
be euthanized in that set of

1241
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:08,320
circumstances if they are not
taken back to their home by the owner or

1242
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:15,119
if they're not adopted within that
period of time.

1243
01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:20,400
We don't want that. But the reality is
we have animals that when they're

1244
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:24,320
seized, if we can't put them somewhere,
that's a problem because we're not doing

1245
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:28,320
what we're supposed to be doing. and
pause has a mission and they want to

1246
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:32,639
make sure that they have space for all
the animals.

1247
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:37,679
So my proposal at our last meeting was
to say let's get a committee together or

1248
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:43,440
somebody together that can be looking at
this. They can figure out what are we

1249
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:46,719
going to do because to be honest we've
been kicking the can down the road for

1250
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:50,320
quite a few years. And I don't mean that
as critical of pause. I don't mean that

1251
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:53,520
as critical of the city. It's been I
think we've both been looking at that

1252
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:57,840
and just hoping something will happen to
be able to help solve the problem.

1253
01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:01,760
Well, nothing's happened. We haven't
magically had space added. We haven't

1254
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:08,400
magically had everybody decide to spay
and their pets. We haven't magically had

1255
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:13,280
uh the county or the reservation step up
and create their own animal shelter.

1256
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:21,520
PA gets animals from everybody in the
county. Period.

1257
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:27,760
So that's what we've got. And to be
frank, we've got an issue because if the

1258
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:31,760
city is going to do something
and pause is in our building, pause is

1259
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:36,239
using the space that we could be using
to do something different.

1260
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:41,360
Nobody here wants to say, "Let's kick
out Pause."

1261
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:46,320
Because we need to be impounding dogs.
So we just need to be able to look at it

1262
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:50,480
in a way of what in the world can we do
to make it so that the city can meet its

1263
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:55,119
obligation and pause can keep its
mission.

1264
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:58,480
And so the question is
rather than us sitting up here and

1265
01:41:56,639 --> 01:42:03,920
talking about it at nauseium for hours
which I can do and I will do. I have no

1266
01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:07,840
doubt I can do that. I think having a
group that can be smaller that can be

1267
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:12,719
nimble and that can look at this from
all angles would be appropriate.

1268
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:16,239
And so that's why I brought that up.
Now, somebody, I'm not going to say who,

1269
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:20,400
may have been Mr. Butterfield, said,
"Oh, you really like committees, do

1270
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:23,840
you?" Yes, I do like committees.
But I do see it as something that'd be

1271
01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:28,080
so much easier than us sitting up here
and spending hours talking about this

1272
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:34,080
because there's a lot of aspects of what
goes on. And Mr. Slack had said, "If

1273
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:37,679
we're going to create a committee, I
would like to have somebody from the

1274
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:41,679
pause board on it." I agree with that
completely. It would make no sense to

1275
01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:45,440
have a committee talking about animals
and then say, "But PA is not going to

1276
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:49,199
have a representative." That makes no
sense. So, I think if we were to do it,

1277
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:53,520
it would make sense to have somebody
from PAUSE.

1278
01:42:51,679 --> 01:42:57,440
So, anyway,
the point is is for this to be

1279
01:42:55,360 --> 01:43:00,800
discussion and kind of what does the
council want to do? I'm trying to

1280
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:06,480
present the problem as best as I can, as
bluntly as I can because the last time I

1281
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:10,560
said the word euthanasia, like a year
ago, everybody gasped in the audience

1282
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:15,360
and started throwing rocks at me. That's
fine. And I said it this year and the

1283
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:21,679
newspaper started gasping and throwing
rocks at me. And that's fine because

1284
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:24,320
reality is if it means that people are
going to donate more to pause because

1285
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:28,320
they're saying we don't want to
euthanize animals in Riverton, guess

1286
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:31,360
what the solution probably is? If you
don't want to euthanize animals in

1287
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,800
Riverton,
don't come to the city of Riverton and

1288
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,960
say, "Give them more money." Start
writing checks. I hate to say it, but

1289
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,360
that's what's truthful here.
>> And adopting pets.

1290
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,800
» And adopting pets.
>> Yeah.

1291
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:48,639
» Because we are not made out of money.
Okay. I had somebody that was saying,

1292
01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:53,119
you were sitting here talking about
adnauseium for something that is less

1293
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:58,400
than 1% of our budget. And I agree it
is. It's not very much of our budget.

1294
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:03,360
But the reality is it's a pretty tight
budget. We run lean. There's not a lot

1295
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:08,719
of money to go around. And the reality
is also if we decided to give PA another

1296
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:12,960
$100,000 or something this year, it's
probably not going to solve all of our

1297
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:16,320
problems. It's not going to be enough to
expand. It's not going to be enough to

1298
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:21,440
make sure that we have the space we
need. So, if you don't want animals to

1299
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:25,440
be euthanized in the city of Riverton,
and you can quote me on this,

1300
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:29,760
you need to be putting money towards
pause. Period.

1301
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:32,639
You can come to me and gripe all you
like and say Riverton needs to be

1302
01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:36,239
putting more money into it, but we're
not made of money.

1303
01:44:34,719 --> 01:44:40,800
So,
that's open for discussion. What do we

1304
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:44,960
want to do? How do we want to get around
this problem so that we aren't coming

1305
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:49,600
back every year with pause hat in hand
acting like they have to sit here and

1306
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:55,639
beg for money for them to do what I
think is a great service but they can't

1307
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:55,639
do it lately.

1308
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,239
What do we got?

1309
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:03,280
» Your honor,
>> I'll let everybody else go first because

1310
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:08,800
I've got a lot to say.
>> Okay. And I guess the other point that I

1311
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:15,360
think we need to make sure is that we
don't just create this cycle of dogs and

1312
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:21,440
cats going in, stay there five days,
they get kicked back out, and we just

1313
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:26,960
keep recycling, which just costs
everybody time, energy, and money. So,

1314
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:30,880
so I think again, we got to find some
permanent type solutions

1315
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:35,280
» and the best one would be people
adopting them. and people adopting him

1316
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:41,760
is by far the best answer. And I I don't
know enough about it to say that people

1317
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:46,880
our average adoption rate in our
communities better or worse than anybody

1318
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:48,560
else or whatever, but uh
I mean it's huge.

1319
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:53,840
» Yeah.
>> And then the other one of course is the

1320
01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:58,080
amount of money we spend on vet bills.
You know, I know we've heard stories and

1321
01:45:56,480 --> 01:46:01,840
I'm not saying it's normal, but you
know, where you're spending a large

1322
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:07,520
amount of money on an animal that
probably is not

1323
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:11,840
going to make it anyway and or you know,
become adoptable at the end of that

1324
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:17,199
process. So again,
>> it again, if we had an unlimited budget

1325
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:23,040
wouldn't matter, but we don't.
>> We throw around a lot of great big

1326
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:26,320
numbers, okay? But,
you know, we talked about the water

1327
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:31,600
project that we did. Okay. It was
$800,000

1328
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:35,040
to put a water line in for what, four
blocks, maybe somewhere in that range.

1329
01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:42,639
» Correct.
>> Okay. You know, the the city has huge

1330
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:45,920
responsibilities financially.
Are is that my five minutes? No.

1331
01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:50,239
» Yeah.
Um,

1332
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:56,719
you know, our study we did several years
ago said we have $70 million worth of

1333
01:46:54,320 --> 01:47:02,960
water infrastructure that needs to be
repaired by

1334
01:46:59,119 --> 01:47:08,480
2030 or 35 or something. It's not that
far away. And I mean, so again, we have

1335
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:12,960
we have huge we throw around big numbers
and yeah, we get a grant for a half

1336
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:17,760
million here and this and that, but that
doesn't go far when you're building

1337
01:47:14,719 --> 01:47:21,920
water lines and and repairing wastewater
treatment plants and I can't imagine

1338
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:26,000
what the crane cost to lift the lid off
the clarifier that we had to repair. You

1339
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:29,360
know,
thousands of dollars an hour, I'm sure.

1340
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:35,440
So,
>> right.

1341
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:37,280
Other discussion. your honor. Um,
as

1342
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:42,960
» our pause liaison,
>> yes, as a sitting member of council for

1343
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:48,960
I'm in my eighth year and this is a
problem that doesn't go away. We kick

1344
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:54,639
the can down the road. It's highly
stressful for pause

1345
01:47:51,600 --> 01:48:01,360
is stressful for the city because we're
not made of money. And I think a task

1346
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:05,760
force is a great idea to bring the
stakeholders together to sit and have

1347
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:13,119
meetings and try to come up with a
viable solution for everybody.

1348
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:17,520
Um, not a fan of euthanasia. I do think
that sometimes

1349
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:23,040
if an animal's, like Mike said, if an
animal's not going to make it, you spend

1350
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:27,280
thousand dollars and and they still
aren't going to make it. Well, maybe we

1351
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:33,520
do need to think about doing something
there. Um, not my favorite thing to do,

1352
01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:38,600
but I I do believe it might be a
responsible thing to do. Um,

1353
01:48:38,639 --> 01:48:47,040
it's a tough situation.
But I think the only way to come to a

1354
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:52,080
solution is to meet together, come up
with a game plan, um figure out the

1355
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:55,360
finances,
and

1356
01:48:53,760 --> 01:49:03,360
hopefully we'll find a solution that
works for everybody.

1357
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:08,480
Well, and I think that the idea is is
we've got a contract for services with

1358
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:12,719
PAUSE that PAUSE has been having a hard
time being able to keep to what they're

1359
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:16,000
saying they can do.
But part of the issues that they're

1360
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:19,760
having with keeping and doing what they
say they're going to do is that they're

1361
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:24,320
in a city-owned building and there's
some limitations and being able to have

1362
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:27,440
expansion. It it just it gets hard. So,
yeah,

1363
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:31,600
» it does. And and we've all we're always
going to have the factor of

1364
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:36,080
irresponsible pet owners, people that
don't spay and neuter, people that let

1365
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:43,440
their dogs run wild and expect somebody
else to take care of them. And I don't

1366
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:47,920
see that problem ever getting resolved.
You just can't you can't make people do

1367
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:49,760
the right thing if they're not going to
do it. So

1368
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:56,960
» yeah,
>> task force is my my thought with all the

1369
01:49:54,719 --> 01:49:59,360
stakeholders involved.
>> Representative from pause.

1370
01:49:58,480 --> 01:50:05,600
» Yes.
>> Okay.

1371
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:10,239
» Thank you, your honor. Um
I've been thinking about this quite a

1372
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:16,480
bit since our last discussion and a word
that keeps coming up in my head is

1373
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:26,760
systemic. systemic failure on multiple
sides, right? And we have an

1374
01:50:21,679 --> 01:50:26,760
organization that's caught in a catch 22

1375
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:36,760
that has no ability to shed any
liability. The city has shed

1376
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,760
considerable amount of liability,

1377
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:44,400
but yet they're held to a standard that
that they can't meet. No, I don't think

1378
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:48,880
anyone could under the circumstances.
And so

1379
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:52,960
when we look at
studying

1380
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:59,280
all of the options and turning over
every single rock,

1381
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:06,800
that I think that's what needs to happen
to have a sustainable path forward and

1382
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:12,199
have that path be a path to success
versus

1383
01:51:08,639 --> 01:51:12,199
systemic failure.

1384
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:19,760
Well, and I think it could also be
something where it could say, "What are

1385
01:51:17,679 --> 01:51:22,960
the space needs? What are the expansion
needs?" Correct.

1386
01:51:20,719 --> 01:51:28,159
» How much money would need to go into
this to have that expansion need?

1387
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:32,400
» I mean, could you imagine PA being able
to have a

1388
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:37,920
» a number where they can say, "If we had
in our pocket today $250,000,

1389
01:51:36,239 --> 01:51:42,800
for example, this is how we could
expand. this is how many more animals we

1390
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:48,320
could take. This is what we could do.
And I think being able to say that would

1391
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:55,440
be the biggest help.
But I don't know. It it's still kind of

1392
01:51:52,639 --> 01:52:00,480
feels like
you've expanded a lot, right? We've got

1393
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:03,679
a lot of outdoor kennels now. We've got
a lot of different things they've done

1394
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:11,760
to try to make the best of the space
they have. And it's like, now what?

1395
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:17,599
Um, it's interesting. I will say
not very comparable, but just hoping

1396
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:22,320
that things will change down the road
sometimes does kind of work out. And by

1397
01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:28,480
that I mean the Fremont County Detention
Center

1398
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:33,199
has for years was way over on their
prisoners such that they would have to

1399
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:38,560
ship prisoners out, that kind of thing.
And then all of a sudden they're not.

1400
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:44,080
they're usually under capacity lately.
And it's been that way for about two or

1401
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:48,400
three years. Um,
and

1402
01:52:45,599 --> 01:52:52,320
things like that happen, but they don't
happen just overnight. And there has to

1403
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:57,360
be something that goes into it. So, it
is possible. It is possible to figure

1404
01:52:54,320 --> 01:53:01,840
out things we can do.
So, yeah. Councilman Brothers, just

1405
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:06,320
because you're the only one that hasn't
said anything yet.

1406
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:10,080
» Yeah. Um, thank you. It's been an
interesting week, I think, after that

1407
01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:14,560
conversation
um last week and seeing some of the

1408
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:19,840
stuff online. Um and like you said, it's
not anything that I think any of us

1409
01:53:16,639 --> 01:53:27,520
would um desire. Uh
um so I don't think that's where we

1410
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:37,040
would want to go um with it, but finding
a solution truly is u the need um in

1411
01:53:33,440 --> 01:53:41,280
this case and I think all of us coming
to a consensus as to what that is is the

1412
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:46,239
important thing um and whether that
means like a bigger area but my thing I

1413
01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:50,560
think the biggest thing that I have been
thinking of is like the comments that

1414
01:53:48,239 --> 01:53:55,119
I'm getting from people um around town
or that we've had and this has happened

1415
01:53:52,800 --> 01:54:00,480
to me are dog bites that have occurred
and very literally there haven't been

1416
01:53:58,639 --> 01:54:09,599
room or if there have been room the
police haven't been able to get the dogs

1417
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:15,280
into a place um in pause. Uh, and that
has been a situation that several

1418
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:18,880
um people in town actually have told me
about because I had my situation and

1419
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:25,760
they said, "Oh, that same thing happened
to me." And so, um, that was my bigger

1420
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:31,119
concern is making sure that that there
are kennels dedicated to like vicious

1421
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:37,520
animals or something because that is an
actual law has. And if we can't uphold

1422
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:43,199
laws that we have, then we're in
trouble. them like you know that that's

1423
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:48,239
that's a problem. So
>> well that's a really good point because

1424
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:53,599
part of what kind of prompted this
thought process for me was just about a

1425
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:57,760
couple of weeks ago I saw a dog out and
my thought was oh I should call that in

1426
01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:02,239
and then my second thought was no they
don't have room I'm just going to create

1427
01:54:59,119 --> 01:55:06,080
a nuisance for
RPD.

1428
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:11,280
» Yeah. And so then my thought then
becomes the next day after I had a

1429
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:15,280
chance to think about my actions. That
sounds kind of weird.

1430
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:19,520
I realized
that dog could bite somebody. That dog

1431
01:55:17,599 --> 01:55:23,599
could spread rabies. That dog could do
so many things that could be destructive

1432
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:30,880
to our community. That's why we have the
laws we do. And here I am as the mayor

1433
01:55:27,119 --> 01:55:35,520
and I'm not calling in a stray dog.
That's pretty ridiculous.

1434
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:39,599
I should have called in that stray dog
because we should have a solution

1435
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:46,480
available such that that dog can be
seized and put somewhere. Period.

1436
01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:50,400
» Well, there was one actually in my yard
as I was leaving barking at me on the

1437
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:54,800
way here.
>> Yeah, there was one in a parking lot

1438
01:55:53,119 --> 01:55:58,000
right as I was
>> driving by about 20 minutes before I

1439
01:55:57,119 --> 01:56:01,440
came here.
>> I didn't have time to call Shannon. I'm

1440
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:08,000
sorry.
Um but uh yeah, so the the reality is

1441
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:13,199
it's like
if we're not able to have citizens that

1442
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:16,080
are feeling comfortable, let alone city
council members or mayors that feel

1443
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,520
comfortable saying, "Hey, we need to
address this. We're going to call it

1444
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:23,880
in." We need to do something.
>> That needs to change.

1445
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,880
» Yeah.

1446
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:30,080
» Thank you.
Was that a good segue to whatever you

1447
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:33,679
have to say, Councilwoman Johnson and
our representatives from Pause? I'm

1448
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,360
certainly not trying to leave it high
and dry. This was meant to be more of a

1449
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:42,000
discussion between the council, but I
definitely want to hear your thoughts.

1450
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:45,280
Um, and I certainly respected and
appreciated you emailing me, Mr. Slack,

1451
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:49,119
and saying, "Hey, if we're going to do
this, let's do it right." Councilwoman

1452
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:53,480
Johnson.
>> Your honor, um,

1453
01:56:53,840 --> 01:57:00,239
first of all, I want to start with
saying thank you. I have worked the last

1454
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:06,320
six days non-stop
with our animal control officer, Ashley

1455
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:11,119
Soulen, who's the new treasurer, Whitney
who's in the back. Um, and we've had

1456
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:14,480
some very transparent and honest
conversations

1457
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:19,040
about what's taking place. And while I
understand that you want to move the

1458
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:27,119
conversation to a committee to discuss,
I think that in light of the um article

1459
01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:31,119
that came out and how that put council
in such a negative light, I think it's

1460
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:37,280
appropriate that we discuss a little bit
of it tonight. And I think that um it's

1461
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:40,719
important to understand how we got to
where we're at and the challenges that

1462
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:43,719
they face.
Um

1463
01:57:44,239 --> 01:57:56,639
understanding overcrowding is um
definitely due to lack of spay and

1464
01:57:52,480 --> 01:58:02,800
neutering. One single feed cat can
produce 400 kittens in one year. And

1465
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:06,040
when people fail to spay and neuter
their pets,

1466
01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:15,040
about half of those find a home. the
other half end up living in shelters and

1467
01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:19,440
um
or or being euthanized. Um I think I can

1468
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:23,440
speak for everybody up here and say
nobody wants to to to use the word

1469
01:58:21,599 --> 01:58:28,800
euthanization. Nobody wants to see that
happen. Um and I came with solutions

1470
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:33,280
actually. I'm I'm not just going to
gripe, but I think it's only fair that

1471
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:37,679
the public understand how PUA has gotten
themselves into this situation as well.

1472
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:43,840
Um, and I want to invite Ashley up to
the to to the counter and and Mr. Slack.

1473
01:58:40,639 --> 01:58:49,760
Um, because we've had good conversations
and it's a partnership and we're working

1474
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:53,440
together and um
there's no fingerpointing. There's no

1475
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:57,040
there there's none of that. It's not a
heed

1476
01:58:54,960 --> 01:59:03,040
things happen. But the bottom line of it
is is there has been um less than

1477
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:06,320
stellar accounting practices that has
gone on. Would you agree with that?

1478
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:09,320
» Yes.
>> Okay.

1479
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:18,239
Substantial accounting practices that
are making a difference in the numbers

1480
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:25,119
that they're seeing and and that they
have to come to us for every year. And a

1481
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:30,000
lot of it stems from
in my opinion and please correct me if

1482
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:36,239
you you feel I'm wrong. Um, but a lot of
that is is policies and how you operate

1483
01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:40,239
and procedures and cutting cost and
spending wisely.

1484
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:45,360
Everything that I see and we went back
to 2022

1485
01:59:43,599 --> 01:59:49,199
looking at financial records and trying
to go over at least I did. I think

1486
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:55,679
Ashley went back a year um in doing
that. I went back the to the

1487
01:59:52,560 --> 02:00:02,400
since I so I took over treasurer in
February officially at the end of

1488
01:59:57,679 --> 02:00:08,159
January and I've gone back almost to
January of 2025 is how far I've gone

1489
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:10,719
back to try to figure out what is
happening.

1490
02:00:08,719 --> 02:00:14,320
» Despite your best efforts,
>> yes,

1491
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:19,920
» there are still some major errors that
that we can identify. We've identified a

1492
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:25,599
lot of things that are inconsistent with
good accounting practices. And I don't

1493
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:29,760
think that that's
anything nefarious that's been done. I

1494
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:36,080
think it's just a lack of of knowledge
in how

1495
02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:39,599
nonprofits have to keep documentation
and

1496
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:44,000
appropriate accounting practices. Well,
it's just a function of the fact that

1497
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:46,639
we're talking about a nonprofit board
that's volunteers,

1498
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:49,920
» correct? And
>> basically love the mission.

1499
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:55,840
» And when you start looking at some of
the numbers, in 2021, you were operating

1500
02:00:52,560 --> 02:01:02,800
in a deficit of about 23,600.
In 2022, you were in the positive. You

1501
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:06,800
ended the the the year 93,910.
In 2023, you were again in the negative

1502
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:11,760
at 46474.
And in 2024, you were in the negative at

1503
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:16,560
14671.
Um,

1504
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:20,000
your vet bills are because of
non-payment.

1505
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:25,920
They're they're multiplying because
you're not making routine payments.

1506
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:30,480
Am I correct there? And you're in you're
acrewing interest. Yes. On that, it was

1507
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:35,440
at 6%.
The stock's now reduced that to 3% for

1508
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:40,800
last year's bills. and in 2024 she's
gone to uh 1.5%.

1509
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:46,560
So there's a lot of interest acrewing on
unpaid bills. There's a lot of um

1510
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:52,840
inconsistencies with reporting whether
it's a revenue, whether it's a payment

1511
02:01:49,119 --> 02:01:52,840
directly to the stock,

1512
02:01:53,119 --> 02:02:02,239
opening money market accounts. I I think
there's four accounts that

1513
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:06,880
hold balances that what what I'm trying
to say is

1514
02:02:04,639 --> 02:02:11,280
even despite your best efforts like
tonight um and the updated information

1515
02:02:09,679 --> 02:02:16,159
that you gave me, there's still a
significant difference in the numbers.

1516
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:21,840
The yearly total for food on the most
recent one that you gave me was 10,3407

1517
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:24,400
from what you could depict from the
vendors itself. yet

1518
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:31,599
» for a year.
>> That's for the year total is what is

1519
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:37,040
recorded from their vendor accounts.
Okay.

1520
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:42,639
But presented to council was 11,598 just
for Riverton City Animals.

1521
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:51,520
» So, can you help me understand that?
>> So, go ahead. What I've found

1522
02:02:46,239 --> 02:02:57,119
um is that whoever was in charge of
Paw's QuickBooks

1523
02:02:54,320 --> 02:03:03,280
created a bunch of
random categories.

1524
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:08,320
And when the bank account when the bank
statements get sent to QuickBooks,

1525
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:14,800
they even though the bank account was
reconciling, they weren't going in and

1526
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:19,040
making sure that the appropriate
line item from the the the bank account,

1527
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:24,480
the transaction from the bank account
matched whatever category it was being

1528
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:29,199
put in. And so therefore, when you go
into PAUSE's QuickBooks and you try to

1529
02:03:27,119 --> 02:03:35,199
create a report,
the the the categories are so wonky.

1530
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:39,040
There's so many different ones and
there's so many subcategories and nobody

1531
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:44,880
was
um putting the appropriate transactions

1532
02:03:41,599 --> 02:03:47,520
into the appropriate categories.
They were hitting reconcile. The bank

1533
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:51,520
account was reconciling. They were
saying, "Okay, great. We have the

1534
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:54,719
money's there." But they but then that
creates a problem when you're trying to

1535
02:03:52,960 --> 02:04:00,480
figure out where did that money actually
go. So it was being put in. So, with the

1536
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:07,119
food,
I'm assuming because of what I've found,

1537
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:13,119
there probably was even more money than
the 11,000 whatever for food because

1538
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:19,920
Whitney and I went back and checked the
um Hill Science Diet account directly

1539
02:04:15,679 --> 02:04:24,960
from the website and there was way more
food purchased during the fiscal year.

1540
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:27,760
it's just doesn't show up in QuickBooks
because it wasn't put into the

1541
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:32,239
appropriate category.
>> So, you might have had, for example, two

1542
02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:37,040
different categories for food and it's
showing up that it's 11,000, but it

1543
02:04:34,719 --> 02:04:39,920
could have been that the two combined
together might have been the truth. In

1544
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:44,880
other words, 21,000.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Or for instance,

1545
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:49,360
some of our pay I was trying to figure
out where did all the payroll go because

1546
02:04:47,199 --> 02:04:55,840
I couldn't I couldn't get payroll to
match. Um, and somebody created a

1547
02:04:53,440 --> 02:05:01,520
category called ATM,
and that's where some of the payroll was

1548
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:05,760
going was to this ATM category, and I
have I have no idea what that even

1549
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:13,840
stands for. So, there's just there's so
much discrepancy within QuickBooks that

1550
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:21,119
it's it's a it's a mess. And so moving
forward um the old accountant has been

1551
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:24,960
released
and um

1552
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:29,760
» thank you. I we've hired a new
accountant and I actually have a meeting

1553
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:36,000
with them tomorrow morning at 9:30 to
say here this is a mess and we need to

1554
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:41,119
figure this out along with the tax
returns that have some issues that need

1555
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:44,400
to be amended and fixed.
>> Um Ashley, I just want to stop you for a

1556
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:48,800
second because that's an important
point. Mhm.

1557
02:05:45,679 --> 02:05:54,800
» Um when we talk about the tax returns on
their tax returns,

1558
02:05:52,080 --> 02:06:00,159
the city's asset of the building is
being claimed on their tax returns

1559
02:05:57,679 --> 02:06:03,199
with full depreciation. They're they're
the filings are not correct.

1560
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,840
» Okay.
>> You claim depreciation on a building

1561
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:11,520
that you don't own.
>> Exactly. And I that again that is that

1562
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:16,480
is again
an issue of either not being trained

1563
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:22,239
correctly when providing information to
you to whoever's filing your taxes or

1564
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:26,560
whatever. But it's on there plain as day
black and white big as Dallas. And your

1565
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:35,199
entire board signed off saying that you
knew that was on there which tells me

1566
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:41,719
there's some issues there. Right. Um,
and I'm not blasting you. I want to make

1567
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,719
that very clear. I think I think that

1568
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:52,800
there's been a lot of um trying to make
things work and operate correctly. But

1569
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:56,960
then throughout all of this, and I mean,
I could be here for hours with the

1570
02:06:54,560 --> 02:07:01,040
inconsistencies that we found. And I'm
I'm I'm really trying hard to avoid that

1571
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:10,079
because I think committee is a good
suggestion. However, um I think it's it

1572
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:16,000
needs to be publicly stated because this
is not a city council issue or a city

1573
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:22,079
issue for your financial crisis. You
you've done this yourself by not seeking

1574
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:26,560
out appropriate accounting practices.
And

1575
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:33,520
when you come before the council and ask
for $75,000 and in retrospect, we're

1576
02:07:29,599 --> 02:07:38,000
giving you near $97,000 a year because
reclamation fees, adoption fees,

1577
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:42,719
licensing fees, rabies fees, all that
stuff was never included prior to the

1578
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:46,719
general public doesn't feel as though
we're supporting you like we should when

1579
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:50,920
we are. It's just not being managed
correctly. And

1580
02:07:52,079 --> 02:08:01,360
So, I'm just going to make a
recommendation tonight that that we um

1581
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:06,239
with everything we have here,
I I think we need to pay off the bill

1582
02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:12,719
with the stock
minus the uh interest charges that have

1583
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:18,880
been incurred. Um giving them a fresh
start, zero dollars going forward for

1584
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:24,960
the remainder of the year. um and
exercise some fiscal responsibility.

1585
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:31,119
Um but then I would like to be on the
committee if it's the will of the

1586
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:35,280
council and work with them on getting
some things in the right direction so

1587
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:38,960
that they're self- sustaining and not
relying on government funding. the

1588
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:46,320
amount of money that they're taking in
is enough to sustain them

1589
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:52,960
through through fundraising
and and fees that they collect and all

1590
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:57,360
of that stuff. It's enough. It's just
got to be budgeted. And currently what's

1591
02:08:55,679 --> 02:09:01,599
happening is they're their their budget
is being developed off of the amount

1592
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:06,560
that they're spending versus creating a
budget and sticking to that budget and

1593
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:11,679
spending within that budget. And there's
other solutions. I'm working on a

1594
02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:16,960
responsible pet owner
program which actually ups up updates

1595
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:22,159
the cities. It puts us in a new in in
technology, the new technology of

1596
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:27,920
everything. Um and and lets us be more
accountable. There's also things that

1597
02:09:23,599 --> 02:09:33,440
can be done like with feral cats and and
a humane trap and release program which

1598
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:38,239
reduces the crowding that they have
there. Um, but there there's a lot of

1599
02:09:36,079 --> 02:09:43,199
there's a lot of solutions out there. We
just have to be able to work together

1600
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:48,000
and accomplish that. I think PAUSE does
good work. Um, and they mean well. I

1601
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:51,320
think they just need a little direction
and help.

1602
02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:56,159
» Your honor,
>> Councilman Bailey.

1603
02:09:54,560 --> 02:10:01,679
» I guess one of the things we need to
remember too though is Pause is their

1604
02:09:59,199 --> 02:10:07,040
own nonprofit. They are not under the
city of Riverton.

1605
02:10:03,679 --> 02:10:11,360
It is not really our job. I mean, and I
don't have any problem helping, but it

1606
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:16,000
is not our job to make sure their
accounting is in order and all of that

1607
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:19,760
other than with respect to if we're
going to give them money, we want to

1608
02:10:18,159 --> 02:10:25,520
make sure they're using it for the
appropriate use that we're paying for.

1609
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:29,199
So, again, it's a little tricky for us
to be like me saying, I'm going to tell

1610
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:34,400
you what you should spend or how which
accountant you should use or whatever.

1611
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:40,400
That's that's your finances, not my
finances. And so, you know, we need to

1612
02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:45,520
make sure we don't mix those together
because it's really not the city of

1613
02:10:41,679 --> 02:10:50,960
Riverton's job to oversee PAUSE and
their financials. Our job is to manage

1614
02:10:49,119 --> 02:10:58,079
the animals within the city of Riverton,
and we're funding that we're supplying

1615
02:10:53,760 --> 02:11:01,599
to help them do that with or for us.
Well, I'm going to disagree with you,

1616
02:10:59,599 --> 02:11:05,679
Councilman Bailey, because when we're
handing out taxpayers dollars, it is our

1617
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:09,840
obligation to make sure it's being spent
correctly and understand their

1618
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:15,119
financials. And as it relates to telling
them how to operate, it's not us telling

1619
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:19,360
them how to operate. It's having a seat
at the table for them taking care of our

1620
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:25,199
animals and coming to a mutual agreement
on what's going to work best for both

1621
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:30,880
the city and PAS. Um, and that relates
to the kennel usage that uh Shannon

1622
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:38,159
needs in order to impound animals and
how that can look in a more effective

1623
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:43,440
manner and what the shelter needs are in
terms of repairs and maybe expansion.

1624
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:46,719
And if that's the responsibility of the
city, then we should all be sitting at

1625
02:11:44,719 --> 02:11:53,199
the table discussing that.
>> Your Councilman Carr.

1626
02:11:50,480 --> 02:12:00,560
Um, I think that begs the question, we
also provide funding for other 501c3s.

1627
02:11:57,679 --> 02:12:06,159
And so for me, it makes me wonder, are
we going down a road that

1628
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,880
what's good for the goose is good for
the gander, right? If we're going to do

1629
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:14,079
it to one, we're going to need to do it
to all.

1630
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:20,560
That being said,
none of the other 501c3s that we give or

1631
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:26,079
provide funding to
>> for direct services

1632
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:31,440
» are taking in direct
wards from the city, right?

1633
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:35,119
» They're also not doing something that
we're obligated by our or own ordinance

1634
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:38,960
to do if they didn't do it.
>> That's exactly what I'm saying. Yes.

1635
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:46,000
We're not obligated to send anyone to a
homeless shelter. we're not obligated to

1636
02:12:40,639 --> 02:12:51,760
send anyone uh somewhere else.
So, so that creates a very unique

1637
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:56,719
situation, very unique.
But it's

1638
02:12:54,639 --> 02:13:04,239
again I think I go back to the systemic
issues. These are all absolutely the

1639
02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:11,199
minutia of the the entire issue, right?
We have systemic failures on

1640
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:15,040
both sides. And so I I am fully in
support of creating, you know, a

1641
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:19,440
committee to look at those systemic
failures. Let's see where they're at. I

1642
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:24,079
I certainly don't want to get into a
situation where we're providing

1643
02:13:22,079 --> 02:13:28,360
oversight because again, then we have to
do it for everybody.

1644
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:28,360
» Correct.

1645
02:13:28,639 --> 02:13:36,560
» And and that would get to be a very
sticky situation. But but I think

1646
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:40,760
providing assistance to to really take a
look at it and in an objective

1647
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:48,480
manner to say how can we fix this?
What's it going to take? Because right

1648
02:13:46,159 --> 02:13:54,560
now we have a big black machine that's
cranking out product, right?

1649
02:13:51,679 --> 02:14:00,440
Animals.
We have an obligation to take care of

1650
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:00,440
those products.

1651
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:07,920
you have an obligation
to take care of those.

1652
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:13,199
How do we do that effectively
and with fiscal responsibility?

1653
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:19,199
And if we can look at that with a very
tight-knit group of stakeholders, I

1654
02:14:16,239 --> 02:14:24,239
think that that would provide
enormous benefit to both parties.

1655
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:28,239
» Good point.
>> I would I would agree

1656
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:30,880
» and I would I'm sorry. I would
>> hold on. Let's

1657
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:36,159
» like to revisit it in 6 months to see
the progress of that. I

1658
02:14:32,159 --> 02:14:40,079
» think it could be good. Mr. Slack,
I'm so glad that you have stepped up

1659
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:43,119
been a part of the PAUSE board for the
last what is it two years now? Three.

1660
02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:46,480
» Three.
>> And you're the chair currently.

1661
02:14:45,679 --> 02:14:51,040
» Director,
>> director, not the ch I Yes.

1662
02:14:50,079 --> 02:14:54,000
I appreciate you.
>> Oh, thank you.

1663
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:58,320
» Anything that you have to add? I I would
say I guess first off I agree

1664
02:14:56,239 --> 02:15:03,040
wholeheartedly with uh Councilman Bailey
and Councilman Carr in the sense of I

1665
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:09,440
don't think that the city should be
overseeing pause, but I also think if

1666
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:15,440
you're open to assistance such as that
that Councilwoman Johnson is offering, I

1667
02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:19,280
think it sounds like a helpful thing.
The other thing I would say too, and I'm

1668
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:24,639
sorry I interrupted you. Last thing.
>> Okay. The other thing I would say too is

1669
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:29,520
if you're open to being a part of
something that we would be discussing

1670
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:33,119
the city's issue, which is dogs at large
and empoundment and that kind of thing

1671
02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:36,480
and what are we going to do about them?
We'd love to have PAUSE be a part of

1672
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:39,920
that, but it doesn't have to be
something where the city is sitting

1673
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:44,880
there and saying pause must do X, Y, and
Z. It would be something where if PAS is

1674
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:48,560
able to reach a contract and we're able
to do something that'll work for both of

1675
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:54,079
us such that PA can be helping out with
this obligation that the city has figure

1676
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:58,800
out how we can do it. Anyway,
>> what do you have to add? I would add

1677
02:15:55,920 --> 02:16:04,159
that I don't think that it benefits the
city or pause not to try and figure

1678
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:10,880
something out at all because like you
said I you pause this is we're going on

1679
02:16:06,639 --> 02:16:17,199
21 years I believe in 21 years ago when
pause started maybe these things weren't

1680
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:22,880
so hard each year as we all know life
gets harder I don't know why but it gets

1681
02:16:19,599 --> 02:16:28,000
harder and I I think I believe some of
when it's It's like rolling a rock down

1682
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:35,439
a hill. It starts picking up momentum,
right? Whether good or bad, it's going

1683
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:41,359
with going back 21 years.
One little item got skipped, one got

1684
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:47,200
skipped on our taxes. Uh, and that it
just is a problem because as a as a we

1685
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:52,880
don't get paid. We we volunteer. We try
to do our best. Um, and yes, I I will

1686
02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:57,120
take full responsibility. my my
signatures on most on all these papers

1687
02:16:54,800 --> 02:17:02,160
at the top that says
yes is correct. I can't even figure out

1688
02:16:59,359 --> 02:17:08,800
my own taxes. I have to have somebody
else do it. That's not that's not in my

1689
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:13,760
my real my wheelhouse. I I I just my
brain does not work that way. So unless

1690
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:17,679
there was an accountant that said, you
know what, I retired. I have a lot of

1691
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:22,319
time. I'll be on the board. I'll do your
I'll do your accounting, your taxes. We

1692
02:17:20,639 --> 02:17:26,719
don't have that. Then here we are. Then
we start looking at, are they going to

1693
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:29,599
charge us $1,000 a month? Is it $2,000 a
month? And then you add that for the

1694
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:33,439
whole year. Meanwhile, we're still
sticking fingers in the holes that are

1695
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:38,880
leaking all over the place. I mean, it
just seems

1696
02:17:35,599 --> 02:17:42,880
that we're just not able to catch up, if
that makes sense. And I don't even mean

1697
02:17:40,479 --> 02:17:48,639
just mean money-wise. I I just mean in
general. It it just snowballs to such an

1698
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:53,040
extent. Then we're all behind and then
some people get burned out. I I'm I need

1699
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:57,519
to be off the board. Then we get
somebody else try to get them to motion

1700
02:17:55,519 --> 02:18:02,080
and then it it just keeps on being that
cycle because we don't know how it got

1701
02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:04,960
there, but it's been there.
No one said anything and then here we

1702
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:07,040
are.
>> Yeah.

1703
02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:10,080
» Not knowing what the heck anybody's
doing.

1704
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:13,760
» So, if we were to do a committee, what
would you recommend in terms of you're

1705
02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:16,800
you're saying you'd want to have
somebody who would be there from the

1706
02:18:15,679 --> 02:18:22,639
pause board?
>> Ashley volunteered for that. I did not

1707
02:18:19,359 --> 02:18:24,719
volunteer her for it. She asked to be
part of that. That was the email that I

1708
02:18:24,319 --> 02:18:27,599
sent.
>> I I remember

1709
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:32,000
» you could have volunteered too, but
>> I I could have, but you know, I I didn't

1710
02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:35,280
really think about it until
>> You're fine, Lonnie.

1711
02:18:32,960 --> 02:18:41,840
» In fact, but if you want two people from
P, I I will I can too. I mean, we can

1712
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:47,200
figure it out. But Ashley specifically
set out and said if we'd enter this with

1713
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:50,479
the city, I would like to be there. Who
else would you think would be good to

1714
02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:55,679
serve on that? Because I would be
inclined to say it would be good to have

1715
02:18:52,639 --> 02:18:59,599
Carla Borders, but she's also been she's
going through a lot right now and has

1716
02:18:57,040 --> 02:19:04,559
some things going on. Not trying to be
like

1717
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:09,519
sounding weird, but she's got like a I
I'm I'm not gonna She's got some things

1718
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:13,120
going on. Everything's okay, but she's
got a busy summer ahead of her, so I

1719
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:15,439
don't want to kind of volunteer for
that. She already serves as the pause

1720
02:19:14,559 --> 02:19:19,760
liaison, but
>> I don't mind though, your honor.

1721
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:23,519
» I I know you don't. But you also serve
on like just about more committees than

1722
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:28,319
anyone else.
>> But pause is my

1723
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:30,960
» mainly what I've been their leaison for
a long time.

1724
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:35,519
» It might be good to get some people from
some other animal welfare associations

1725
02:19:33,679 --> 02:19:40,880
or something like that. We just met one
today and Larry Wallace. Um, so the

1726
02:19:39,120 --> 02:19:45,280
other thing we could do is we could just
do an advertisement for it and have some

1727
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:48,720
people step up and be willing to
volunteer kind of in light of what

1728
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:52,800
you're saying. Maybe there will be an
accountant that's retired and to say,

1729
02:19:50,479 --> 02:19:55,600
"Hey, not that we're looking for
accountants with what we're doing. This

1730
02:19:54,240 --> 02:20:00,160
is something where we're wanting to look
at solutions for

1731
02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:06,080
» population issues that we're facing, not
necessarily looking at it. I I feel very

1732
02:20:03,439 --> 02:20:07,760
positive about what's going to happen
tomorrow.

1733
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:11,840
» Good.
>> Because I'm making it my mission to

1734
02:20:09,359 --> 02:20:14,720
figure this out because
it needs help.

1735
02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:16,560
» Good. I'm glad you're there then. You're
the right person at the right time.

1736
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:21,200
» Yes.
>> Councilman Bailey. Your honor, I think

1737
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:25,840
we need to have a law enforcement,
animal control presence in that

1738
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:31,359
discussion, too, because a lot of what
we're going to be talking about, I

1739
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:35,520
think, is what they can or cannot do in
that scenario where they have to pick up

1740
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:39,920
animals and, you know, so I think that
would be another valuable uh stakeholder

1741
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:44,640
in that process.
>> So, law enforcement pause representative

1742
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:46,720
from the council could be helpful.
Veterinary services.

1743
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:49,600
» I'm sorry.
>> Veterinary services.

1744
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:54,000
» Veterinary services. That's always nice
to have.

1745
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:58,640
» It would be I think it'd be beneficial
for everybody if you have a little

1746
02:20:55,520 --> 02:21:03,200
component of everything across there. Um
you know, there's uh a number of times

1747
02:21:00,560 --> 02:21:08,000
I've been in um RPD, sat with chief,
we've tried to figure some things out.

1748
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:12,399
Yes, we're full. We tried to make sure
that if somebody gets a DUI, you just

1749
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:15,280
can't leave their doggo in the car.
We've got to do something with that.

1750
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:21,280
Yes. And you can't. And then we've also
talked about um how vicious an animal

1751
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:24,720
can be before we can't take it at pause,
>> right?

1752
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:28,000
» You know, and um I I know that kind of
came up a few times and Mr. Butterfield

1753
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:31,439
kind of told me I wasn't supposed to
talk about things like that because it

1754
02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:35,200
kept coming up, but I don't know.
Ostriches get loose, horses get loose,

1755
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:37,840
cows come to town. They're not coming to
paws.

1756
02:21:36,479 --> 02:21:39,920
» You guys aren't taking cows or
ostriches.

1757
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:44,000
» No. No. We're going to we're just going
to stick with dogs and cats. We got a

1758
02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:48,000
big box of snakes, too. But
>> yeah, we don't need

1759
02:21:46,399 --> 02:21:51,040
I'm not a reptile fan. I really love
critters, but not really.

1760
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:55,920
» So, a representative from the council,
perhaps, somebody from more veterinary

1761
02:21:53,520 --> 02:22:01,439
services, representative from PAUSE,
representative from the RPD, likely a

1762
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:05,520
representative from other local animal
kind of groups that are interested.

1763
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:09,040
The other question, I guess, though, is
do we just want to have this be

1764
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:11,920
advertised and let people apply and then
the council decides who we want to put

1765
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:17,120
on it?
maybe for an atlarge seat.

1766
02:22:15,359 --> 02:22:19,600
» So maybe have some people apply for at
large seats.

1767
02:22:18,319 --> 02:22:23,600
» So we would kind of go in with
veterinary pause RPD council and then

1768
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:27,040
» we just don't want it to get too big.
>> Have one or two done either.

1769
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:30,800
» The point is to have it be nimble, not
to have it be like 20 members,

1770
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:33,120
» right? Then we'll get nowhere.
>> Not more than 10.

1771
02:22:32,399 --> 02:22:35,200
» Yeah.
>> I'd even say seven.

1772
02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:38,800
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1773
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:43,200
» It's nice to have a smaller group
>> at least for initial discussion. And if

1774
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:45,200
we need to expand that, we could
>> could.

1775
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:50,399
» Mr. Butterfield's really good at making
resolutions, creating committees. He

1776
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:53,359
enjoys it. We also are really good at
making resolutions, disbanding

1777
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:58,240
committees when there's no longer a
need. We enjoy that, too. I mean,

1778
02:22:56,080 --> 02:23:02,240
» so I this is an initial effort and
trying to figure out what we can do. And

1779
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:05,200
I think we just need to be willing to
look at it and consider it.

1780
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:09,920
» So
>> I would like to ask to keep it at an odd

1781
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:13,120
number. That's that's kind of where I
was saying so.

1782
02:23:10,640 --> 02:23:17,120
» Okay. Yeah. Because if we get even and
we split, then it it it just

1783
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:20,399
» Well, then you got to whoever it is
that's been there the shortest amount of

1784
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:23,040
time, you got to just eliminate them.
So,

1785
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:26,640
» okay.
>> I thought you weren't going to go there.

1786
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:29,600
» Kick them off.
>> Like, are we doing

1787
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:32,240
» Everybody's making everything about
youth in Asia today.

1788
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:38,960
» Yes.
>> Um, okay. I think from my opinion it

1789
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:43,040
would make a lot of sense that we uh we
get a resolution together for this. I

1790
02:23:41,439 --> 02:23:47,600
think to whatever extent that you're
willing to to serve Councilwoman

1791
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:52,399
Johnson, I think it'd be great.
>> I would I would like to continue serving

1792
02:23:49,359 --> 02:23:55,760
in the the capacity with um Miss Solen
and our animal control officer on the

1793
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:59,040
board.
>> You and Miss Borders might have to have

1794
02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:05,920
an arm rest or something.
>> Well, I we work just fine. she there.

1795
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:10,000
I've just delved knee deep into it and
>> I can always share the information with

1796
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:18,160
her as well if she's tied up,
>> you know, and and for pause for me

1797
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:22,880
working with RPD has not we've not had a
problem. I I don't

1798
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:28,000
I don't think we don't not dislike each
other. Uh not had a problem working with

1799
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:33,040
Shannon. Shannon is always very very
forthcoming with me and as much as I can

1800
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:36,160
try and be with her as well. So that
would be very helpful to keep that

1801
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:38,960
bridge.
>> Well, if we had a representative from

1802
02:24:37,439 --> 02:24:42,399
RPD, I would think it would make sense
for it to be Shannon.

1803
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:50,479
You don't necessarily want her to
volunteer for things or volunteer.

1804
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:55,280
She's just remaining silent today.
>> Um Mr. Butterfield, I guess what I would

1805
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:58,560
say is probably what where we're at, at
least appears to be where the council's

1806
02:24:57,200 --> 02:25:03,280
at, and we could have a motion and a
vote for it if we need to, is maybe come

1807
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:07,600
to our next meeting. Could you come with
the resolution that we could use and

1808
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:12,800
then give some thought as to who could
serve from those kind of areas,

1809
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:18,960
veterinary, pause, RPD, council, and
then uh have maybe two or three or one

1810
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:21,040
or two at large positions. And that make
sense?

1811
02:25:19,439 --> 02:25:24,560
» Yes, your honor. Would you need a vote
for that today? Because he'd be coming

1812
02:25:22,319 --> 02:25:27,200
with the proposal at the next meeting.
Okay.

1813
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:29,760
» Does that seem like that would help Mr.
Slack, Miss Sloan?

1814
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:33,439
» Yes. Okay.
>> I will have to say though, for the next

1815
02:25:32,399 --> 02:25:38,240
three weeks, yeah,
>> I can't take any more time off.

1816
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:42,479
» We're coming into finals. I'm in class
Monday through Thursday evening. So, but

1817
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:45,840
you'll be in good hands.
>> It'll be at least that long.

1818
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:48,399
» It'll take It'll take that long to get
this in going anyway.

1819
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:51,040
» My brain.
>> That's all right.

1820
02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:54,800
» Okay.
Okay. Well, if there's nothing else to

1821
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:57,680
talk about this, I'm just glad we're not
here at 11 o'clock right now.

1822
02:25:56,640 --> 02:26:00,680
» You're welcome.
>> Yeah.

1823
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:06,319
» Johnson is like, I could have made it
worse.

1824
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:09,280
» I could have, but I didn't cuz I want I
want I want to

1825
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:10,399
» You put in a lot of hours prior to this
meeting.

1826
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:13,359
» I know you did.
>> I really did.

1827
02:26:11,359 --> 02:26:16,640
» She told me that. And actually, uh,
Councilwoman Johnson and I put in some

1828
02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:18,160
time talking to each other, too, so that
we could kind of be

1829
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:22,319
» we did
>> on the same page. And so

1830
02:26:20,399 --> 02:26:25,600
» I just want to see positive solutions
all the way around.

1831
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:29,359
» Did you really just say that?
>> Positive solutions went there.

1832
02:26:27,359 --> 02:26:34,560
» She has named the committee. It's the
positive solutions committee.

1833
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:37,200
» I hope that's reported on
>> Yeah.

1834
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:39,840
» accurately.
>> Accurately.

1835
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:42,720
» EWS.
Okay. Thank you very much for being here

1836
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:44,880
and thank you for all you do. Thank you
for your board members for being here.

1837
02:26:44,319 --> 02:26:50,319
And
>> I hope you understand.

1838
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:55,600
I I don't Our goal is not to be dragging
you in front of us like you're some, you

1839
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:58,880
know, terrible organization that's
committing some terrible crimes or

1840
02:26:57,359 --> 02:27:03,200
anything. Our goal is just to try to
figure out what we can do to come up

1841
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:05,280
with ways we can take care of animals in
our community. And you guys have done

1842
02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:10,720
great for it for years.
>> Yeah, exactly. I mean, as a college

1843
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:14,479
professor, sometimes I have some really
serious, you better answer, better come

1844
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:18,800
up with some solution things to get you
through. It's not my aspect to make

1845
02:27:16,319 --> 02:27:23,040
somebody flunk. Uh, you just sometimes
you have to use that, figure it out,

1846
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:27,840
pick everything up, and then move
forward in a better position.

1847
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:31,439
» Yeah. Well, thank you. Appreciate you
guys. All right. So, we don't have a

1848
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:33,680
vote or anything. Are we good going just
to our next agenda item?

1849
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:36,160
» Yep.
>> Thank you, Mr. Sack.

1850
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:37,680
» Thank you. Thank you, Miss Sloan.
>> Have a good evening, everybody.

1851
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:43,680
» You, too.
>> Thank you.

1852
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:47,760
» Okay. Our next item is an executive
session on real estate. I'd entertain a

1853
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:55,200
motion to convene into executive session
for the purpose of uh real estate.

1854
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:59,359
It's Wyoming statute 164405A7.
>> So moved. Second.

1855
02:27:57,200 --> 02:28:05,200
» Motion by Councilman Bailey, second by
Councilman Carr. Any other discussion?

1856
02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:09,359
Uh we would invite Mr. Mr. Butterfield.
Anybody else that needs to come in with

1857
02:28:06,479 --> 02:28:11,840
us? Okay, we'd invite Mr. Butterfield to
come in with us. All in favor say I.

1858
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:20,920
» I. I.
>> Any oppose say nay. Motion passed. Stand

1859
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:20,920
convene into executive session at 9:41.

1860
02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:28,800
» Councilman Carr with the motion.
Councilwoman Brothers with the second.

1861
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:31,200
All in favor say I.
>> That was

1862
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:36,560
» brothers Johnson.
>> I was looking at you, Councilwoman. Man,

1863
02:28:33,760 --> 02:28:41,359
why do we keep getting misqued?
>> All in favor say I. Any oppos say nay.

1864
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:45,359
» Motion passed. We're reconvened at
10:25. All action items from the

1865
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:48,960
executive session. I'd entertain a
motion to adjourn.

1866
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:53,920
» So moved.
>> Councilwoman Brothers with the motion.

1867
02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:58,800
Councilwoman
Johnson with the second or borders. All

1868
02:28:57,680 --> 02:29:03,200
in favor say I.
>> I.

1869
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:08,600
» Any oppose say nay. Vote I. Motion
passes. We are adjourned at 10:26.