[0:52] Need one?
>> Yeah, toss it over.
[0:54] » Mine.
>> You hurt yourself.
[0:59] » Yeah. Good.
>> Nancy.
[1:01] I now call the uh April 21st, 2026
regular meeting of the Riverton City
[1:05] Council to order at 7 p.m. Councilwoman
Johnson has agreed to lead us in the
[1:10] pledge of allegiance after which
Councilwoman Brothers will uh lead us in
[1:14] an invocation. If everyone could please
rise for the pledge of allegiance and
[1:17] remove your hats.
>> I aliance to the flag of the United
[1:23] States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under
[1:28] God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[1:34] » Our dear heavenly father, we thank thee
so much for the blessing to be here
[1:38] tonight to be able to discuss what's
best for the citizens of Riverton,
[1:44] Wyoming. We thank thee for the first
responders and for all that they do for
[1:50] the city. And we pray a blessing to be
upon them that they will be able to do
[1:57] their jobs and that they will know that
they are
[2:01] that they we are grateful for all that
they do. And we pray that we will
[2:08] know and do what's best for the city
tonight and be able to discuss that with
[2:17] the people's best needs at heart. And we
say this in the name of Jesus Christ.
[2:22] Amen.
>> Amen.
[2:25] » Thank you.
All right. Mr. Batista, could you do me
[2:29] a favor real quick?
Could you go to my office and grab my
[2:33] dipple? And
then also could you grab there's a pen.
[2:39] If you could grab that, too. Well, just
grab me. I don't want to steal.
[2:46] Every once in a while you just have
stars don't align for things. I don't
[2:51] know.
>> All right.
[2:57] Next. Uh Harris, why don't you start us
with the roll call and we'll see if we
[3:01] can get this going right.
>> Thank you. Council member Karen Johnson
[3:04] » here.
>> Council member Carla Borders
[3:06] » here.
>> Council member Mike Bailey
[3:08] » here.
>> Council member Rebecca Brothers
[3:10] » here.
>> Council member Eric Carr
[3:12] » here.
>> Mayor Tim Hancock,
[3:14] » I am here. Um
I know there was a plan for Councilman
[3:18] Larson to be joining us by phone. Didn't
work out.
[3:23] Um Mr. Ch or your honor, not Mr.
Chairman.
[3:26] » Um with the phone system being down,
it's not possible to have him remote in
[3:30] through our system.
>> Okay. Just wanted to make sure. So, uh,
[3:33] I'd entertain a motion to excuse, uh,
Councilman Larson from tonight's meeting
[3:38] who is, uh, currently in another, uh,
state and was wanting to attend by
[3:44] phone, but was unable to.
>> So moved.
[3:47] » Second.
>> Have a motion by Councilwoman
[3:51] uh, Borders, second by Councilman
Bailey. All in favor say I. Any oppose,
[3:56] say nay. I vote I. Motion passes. Did it
work?
[4:01] The key worked. Yep. All right. And the
Thank you.
[4:06] » Pen might not. Thank you. Thanks, Max.
Oh, yeah. I I should probably take
[4:15] » All right. I declare we have a quorum.
I'd entertain a motion to approve the
[4:18] agenda as presented.
>> So moved. Second.
[4:22] » Motion by Councilwoman Johnson, second
by Councilwoman Borders.
[4:26] All in favor say I. Any oppose say nay.
I vote I. Motion passes. Introduction
[4:34] and oath of office. Patrol officers.
Patrol officer. Chief's report, please.
[4:47] Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh,
tonight we add another member of our uh
[4:52] to our sworn team. And
uh before I introduce our new member,
[5:01] I'd like to be joined tonight by
Lieutenant Amy Filer and Lieutenant Eric
[5:07] Smiths to be with me as we welcome our
new patrol officer.
[5:12] » Perfect.
[5:19] » So I ask Jeff and his wife Megan to
please join me up here.
[5:25] Oh,
[5:33] » Jeff and his wife Megan come here by the
way of Pacific Northwest. Uh Jeff was an
[5:38] Army vet after meeting Megan in the mid
1990s.
[5:43] » No, he said
[5:46] » Navy
>> chief. I knew that.
[5:49] » I've teased him about it.
>> Yeah.
[5:53] After meeting Megan in the mid 90s,
1990s,
[5:58] uh spent most of his time working for
Microsoft, Amazon, T-Mobile, and a few
[6:05] Seattle area executives.
He likes playing uh likes spending his
[6:10] time cooking and hunting and playing
golf. They moved to the Richmond area
[6:14] four years ago, and he's already put
down his roots by buying a new home. Uh
[6:20] Jeff was hired two years ago as our
first community service officer and he
[6:25] joins us as being promoted to a new
patrol officer.
[6:31] Uh after much prompting and with
permission of Megan
[6:38] this time, your honor, we are ready to
uh have the oath of office. After Megan,
[6:44] if you would do the honors of placing
the badge on Jeff,
[6:57] I think
>> Oh, I'm waiting until she draws blood
[7:00] and then I'll head down.
[7:12] Try harder.
[7:31] » Second time around.
[7:36] This isn't the first time I've sworn you
in, is it?
[7:39] » No, it is not.
>> All right, raise your right hand if you
[7:43] could repeat after me. I'm going to say
I and then you're going to say your
[7:46] name. I'm not going to say your name. I
>> I Jeffrey David Mang
[7:50] » do solemnly swear or affirm
>> do solemnly swear or affirm
[7:53] » that I will support obey and defend
>> that I will support obey and defend
[7:56] » the Constitution of the United States
>> the Constitution of the United States
[8:00] » and the Constitution of the State of
Wyoming
[8:02] » and the Constitution of the State of
Wyoming
[8:03] » that I have not knowingly
>> that I've not knowingly
[8:06] » violated any law
>> violated any law
[8:08] » related to my appointment
>> related to my appointment
[8:10] » nor caused it to be done by others
>> nor caused it to be done by others
[8:14] » that I will discharge the duties of my
office
[8:16] » and that I will discharge the duties of
my office
[8:18] » with fidelity.
>> with fidelity.
[8:20] » All right,
[8:42] » good. You know the drill.
>> Yes. Congratulations.
[8:50] » Congratulations.
>> Congratulations.
[8:54] » Congratulations.
>> Thank you.
[8:57] » Welcome.
[9:09] » So, the chief kind of was disguisedly
making two announcements there.
[9:17] In part why he had uh Lieutenant Filer
and Lieutenant uh Eric Smith come up is
[9:24] because we recently have now two new
lieutenants over at the police
[9:28] department. So very glad to have you
both here. You obviously represent two
[9:33] different styles of lieutenants right
now with Amy fully decked out in
[9:39] uh her uh typical uniform and Eric fully
decked out in his typical uniform. So,
[9:45] both good things. Very glad to have you
on board, Jeff. Um, excited for what you
[9:50] can bring to the department. Very glad
to have you available and willing to
[9:54] serve. And, um, hopefully this means
that we'll have more opportunities for
[9:58] you to cook for us. So
I think
[10:01] » part of the reason was
>> I I know
[10:05] » I was going to ask if he gets a special
[10:11] » there needs to be a competition first
and then we have to decide who actually
[10:16] wins that. So we'll find out. There's
some stiff competition. I don't know if
[10:21] there really is actually now that I'm
thinking about everybody.
[10:25] » Sounds like find out.
>> Yeah, mayor. There is another uh
[10:29] competition this weekend.
>> Yeah,
[10:35] » good.
[10:40] » That's right.
[10:45] » And I can tell that you still like each
other because your wife is sitting
[10:48] between you.
[10:53] » All right. Well, great news. Glad to
have you on board. I know we have
[10:56] another officer who we're going to be
swearing in here soon. Uh but was unable
[11:00] to have things work out for that to
happen. So, and certainly appreciate um
[11:06] Lieutenant Filer. I'm going to get used
to saying it. Um and Lieutenant Smith
[11:10] being willing to step up and uh fill
those leadership roles in the department
[11:14] and many years of service. And I think
now I think you both did you graduate
[11:20] from the academy pretty close to the
same time? Eric, you have her by maybe a
[11:25] couple of months or a year, don't you?
>> Correct.
[11:27] » I remember that. So, yeah. All right.
Good deal.
[11:36] » All right. Next up, we have a National
Apprenticeship Apprenticeship Week
[11:40] proclamation. Oh, that is not the one
that I was going to sign. Here we go.
[11:45] Uh whereas National Apprenticeship Week
is celebrating its 12th anniversary of
[11:49] raising awareness of the vital role that
a registered apprenticeships play in
[11:53] providing opportunities to the people of
Wyoming by allowing apprentices to earn
[11:58] while they learn and preparing a pathway
to good quality jobs and well-paying
[12:01] careers and the ability to advance in
those careers. And whereas registered
[12:05] apprenticeship programs enable employers
to develop and train their future
[12:10] workforce while offering career seekers
affordable paths to secure high paying
[12:14] jobs. And whereas apprenticeship is an
important post-secondary pathway for
[12:19] Wyoming workers, offering a combination
of academic and technical instruction
[12:24] with paid on the job training, resulting
in national and industry recognized
[12:30] occupational credential
that ensures higher earnings for
[12:34] apprentices and a highly skilled
workforce for Wyoming employers,
[12:38] associations, and unions. Whereas
registered apprenticeship programs are
[12:42] uniquely able to meet the changing
demands of the Wyoming economy and
[12:46] provide a path for all qualified
individuals, including women, youth,
[12:50] people of color, rural communities,
justice involved individuals, and
[12:52] individuals with disabilities to become
apprentices and contribute to America's
[12:57] industries. And whereas Wyoming
recognized that registered
[13:00] apprenticeship, a proven and
industry-driven training model, is a key
[13:04] strategy to improving job quality and
creating access to good paying, family
[13:08] sustaining jobs for all. while
addressing some of our nation's pressing
[13:12] workforce challenges such as rebuilding
our country's infrastructure, addressing
[13:16] critical supply chain demands,
supporting a clean energy workforce,
[13:21] modernizing our cyber security response
and responding to care economy issues.
[13:25] Whereas the celebration of Wyoming
apprenticeship day will honor and
[13:30] encourage industries who utilize or
could benefit from apprenticeship models
[13:34] and recognize the role the
apprenticeship system has played in
[13:38] preparing Wyoming apprentices for
sustainable careers with family
[13:41] sustaining wages. Now therefore, I Tim
Hancock do hereby proclaim
[13:46] April 26, 2026 through May 2nd, 2026 as
National Apprenticeship Week in Riverton
[13:53] and witness whereof I have here to set
my hand and cause the official seal of
[13:57] the city of Riverton to be affixed this
21st day of April 2026. So
[14:04] always good to have apprentices. glad
that we have people that are willing to
[14:09] uh I I I think that this words it just
very well in terms of learning, earning
[14:15] while they learn, which I think is just
an incredible thing that can help a lot
[14:19] of different people. Um I actually have
an individual that I had the privilege
[14:24] of prosecuting. That sounds kind of
funny, doesn't it?
[14:28] um who has turned his life around
completely and he's become a a welder
[14:34] and it's something that uh he started
you know just the same sort of thing uh
[14:39] working with others learning on the job
that sort of thing and uh it's changed
[14:44] his life completely. He's been able to
maintain sobriety for a couple of years
[14:47] now and it's there's a lot of good
things about it. So anyway, thank you
[14:53] everyone um for uh providing the
proclamation and listening through a
[14:58] long proclamation where I stumbled over
a couple words. Next up, reports and
[15:02] comments, council committee reports and
council members roundt.
[15:06] Um
who haven't we started with lately? Just
[15:10] to throw things off, I think we haven't
started with councilwoman brothers
[15:13] lately.
>> All right, perfect. Thank you, your
[15:16] honor. Um I had uh two things, two
meetings. One meeting was the youth
[15:23] council meeting on um let's see I have
it I think the 8th was when we did last
[15:28] did it. We have it again tomorrow. Um I
will be out of town. So we're going to I
[15:35] don't know who Mr. Butterfield asked to
fill in or if he has yet, but uh
[15:41] » to be determined tonight.
>> Okay, awesome. So, um but um we have
[15:47] several things happening. Um and uh the
kids are doing great things. But one of
[15:52] the things that we did uh was we went to
the Rotary cleanup. Um uh we had I think
[15:58] four kids come and then my daughter came
as well and we did we did a great job. I
[16:03] think we had a really big stretch of a
lot of trash.
[16:07] » Yes.
>> And um uh it was really a lot of fun.
[16:11] It's something that makes you feel
really good to do and I'm really
[16:14] grateful that the Rotary does that and
gives everybody in the community a
[16:19] chance to clean up and feel good about
themselves. So, thank you for that. So
[16:23] yeah, um youth council's working hard
and um
[16:28] uh yeah, I think that we're going to
work with um new Cub Scout uh troop
[16:34] that's that's um thinking about getting
started here and um we're going to talk
[16:41] to them tomorrow. So yeah, that's it,
your honor. Thank you.
[16:46] » All right, just so happens that I know a
little bit about that Cub Scout.
[16:50] » Oh, do you? pack.
>> I'm actually the uh from Rotary. I am
[16:55] the um oh, what's the word for it?
I'll think of it later. Mr. Bailey, let
[17:04] us know about what you've got going on.
>> Thank you, your honor. Um I attended the
[17:09] airport board meeting here this last
Friday and the airport is doing well.
[17:14] We're staying on track with where we
were last year with uh you know uh in
[17:18] claimments and stuff.
and you know things are moving along
[17:23] very well at the airport. So again, I
think it's a wonderful asset we have in
[17:27] our community that helps us get where we
need to go and people to be able to fly
[17:32] in here and visit and all that kind of
stuff. Saves a lot of time and energy.
[17:37] If we didn't have it, we'd be flying
into Casper or Cody or Jackson or
[17:41] whatever. So, and free parking while
you're gone and so it's really a pretty
[17:47] good bargain. So, um, then also again
this last Saturday we had the community
[17:53] cleanup which Rotary sort of sponsored
and my wife directed.
[18:00] So, I got put to work and uh, but we had
a great time. We had close to a hundred
[18:07] people come out from multiple different
organizations
[18:10] and
covered a lot of ground. um picked up
[18:15] two 16 foot dump trailers full of trash
and took them to the landfill. And um
[18:21] you know, it's one of those where you
don't realize until you really get to
[18:25] look how much trash, you know, blows up
in the fences and all that kind of
[18:28] stuff. And so it uh it's it's very
satisfying when you're all done to to go
[18:35] out and look and those places are, you
know, clear of garbage and stuff. Again,
[18:40] we just need to make sure we keep our
community looking nice. And I know we're
[18:45] not going to have any water this year,
but I'll bet the weeds will be fine.
[18:48] They seem to survive and thrive no
matter what. So, you know, the next
[18:53] thing is I think we all need to keep an
eye on our weeds and try to get keep
[18:56] them trimmed down so they don't get out
of control. So,
[18:58] » it's almost like they don't even need
water.
[19:00] » I I think they like not being watered,
but uh yeah. So, again, great turnout.
[19:07] It's wonderful to see people get out and
participate in making our community a
[19:11] better place to live. Um then last of
all, the Boys and Girls Club breakfast
[19:16] is tomorrow, uh which is their annual
fundraiser. Um
[19:21] again, I think we're on our fourth or
fifth year. I can't remember.
[19:25] » I think it's fourth.
>> Um but the Boys and Girls Club is doing
[19:28] amazing. They've got over 350 kids now
enrolled, which we started out
[19:37] and I think they weren't sure if they
were going to get to 75 and here we are
[19:41] at 350. So,
>> it's amazing. And they're in the old
[19:44] Ashgrove school building and doing well.
And I it's a it's an amazing wonderful,
[19:51] you know, asset to our community where
these kids have some places to go after
[19:55] school and help get help with homework
and do activities and they've got a
[20:00] summer program. And so I think it's it
really is a huge help for the community.
[20:04] And so it's it's an amazing thing. So I
encourage you to uh get out and support
[20:09] them. If you don't go to the breakfast,
it's free. You're missing out. And but
[20:15] if you'd like, I'm sure I think on their
website you there's a place where you
[20:19] could make, you know, monthly donations
or whatever, but it's really a good
[20:22] cause for the community. So that's all I
have, your honor. Thank you.
[20:27] » Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm sorry. I
was I missed it. Wasn't feeling very
[20:31] well.
>> Hey, that happens.
[20:34] Um, Councilwoman orders,
>> your honor, um, I had a couple of
[20:41] meetings, both of them related to the
semiquincentennial
[20:45] celebration July 4th. Um, first I went
to the, um, actual event meeting and,
[20:53] um, we're in need of tribal dancers. If
anyone knows anyone that would want to
[20:59] participate, we would absolutely love to
have them with us. Um, we also are
[21:04] looking for some food vendors
and and then limited craft tables. Um,
[21:11] we want to try to limit it to uh
patriotic type t-shirts and things like
[21:17] that, celebration t-shirts. Um, let's
see what else. Okay, the parade
[21:23] basically the same thing. We're looking
for some tribal dancers, maybe some
[21:28] horsemen,
um, just to join in on the festivities.
[21:34] And then I was going to mention the
breakfast tomorrow morning, bright and
[21:38] early, 6:30. Um,
Ed McAffrey will be there if anyone
[21:44] knows the Broncos.
>> Um, and that is about all I've got.
[21:50] » All right,
Councilwoman Johnson. Thank you. Um I
[21:55] have not attended any meetings since
last week um that were scheduled, but I
[22:00] have been in meetings all week long
doing a lot of followup and preparing
[22:03] for this evening's meeting. Um I did
want to say thank you to those that
[22:07] participated in the Rotary Cleanup. That
was very nice to see and it's good to
[22:11] see that the community's taken an
interest in beautifying our community
[22:15] and I think it's much appreciated and so
I just wanted to say thank you for that.
[22:22] That's all I have, your honor.
>> Okay. Thank you, Councilman Carr.
[22:27] » Thank you, your honor. Um, no official
meetings, but I did attend the chamber
[22:32] lunch and learn on the 9th with Tim
Nichols speaking about the 3/4 cent tax
[22:37] and the um ground transportation and how
it relates. Uh he did an excellent job.
[22:43] If you do haven't heard Tim speak, uh he
always does a very good job. He's very
[22:47] informative and exceptionally
knowledgeable about all things 3/4 cent
[22:52] tax related. So, um, please get out and
support that as much as possible. Uh,
[22:59] just as a reminder, construction
season's in full swing now. Uh, please
[23:03] watch out for work zones.
I every single year I see somebody or am
[23:10] almost hit myself on a construction
project. So, please watch out. uh slow
[23:16] down, give the Orange Cones the the
distance they deserve. And then just a
[23:20] real quick question uh for Gary uh or
maybe Chief Herado,
[23:27] are do we have a a position open for the
community service officer now that
[23:35] what's the plan there?
>> Sure, your honor.
[23:37] » Be feel free.
>> Uh yes. So with uh tonight's uh
[23:42] promotion, there is a opening for a
community service officer. Uh in
[23:48] anticipation of tonight, we did
advertise and there was a selection
[23:53] process and an offer was extended. We're
just waiting for backgrounds and
[23:59] everything else to fall in place.
>> Move fast. Awesome. That's good news.
[24:03] Excellent.
>> That's all I have, your honor. Thank
[24:07] you.
>> Okay. Can I just ask a quick follow-up
[24:09] question to that? Is that's a granted
position, is it not? And how long does
[24:13] that grant last or do we have to reapply
for it or
[24:17] » your honor? Uh,
yes, the is a 100% grant funded
[24:23] position. It was a three-year grant. It
ends September of this year and the
[24:30] grant just opened for us to reapply.
>> Thank you.
[24:35] » Thank you. Good question. And it's been
nice to be able to have that. I mean, as
[24:39] an option, we're fully funded grant
positions. It's just a great thing.
[24:46] » All right. Um, Mr. Butterfield, did I
get everybody? I did.
[24:52] » Thank you, your honor. I do have a few
things.
[24:55] First, I'd like to start by highlighting
our IT team and for their efforts to um
[25:00] restore connectivity and we appreciate
when they respond to these emergencies
[25:05] and and assist. Oftentimes, they're the
team that's working behind the scenes to
[25:09] make sure everything else goes to plan.
So, I want to say thank you to them.
[25:13] Also want to express appreciation to the
sheriff's office because uh with some of
[25:18] the um issues that are happening due to
the fiber optic line that was hit. We
[25:23] are partnering with the sheriff's office
to ensure that all phone calls are being
[25:27] received and services provided
especially those who are in need of uh
[25:31] emergent responses.
In addition to the um community service
[25:36] officer update that Chief Herertado
provided, uh we're happy to announce
[25:42] that three of the recently interviewed
patrol officer candidates are in
[25:47] backgrounds and we look forward to
continuing the hiring process um for
[25:51] those vacancies.
I also want to express uh gratitude and
[25:57] congratulations to um Lieutenant Filer
and Lieutenant Smiths. They've been part
[26:01] of the team for a long time and look
forward to the leadership that they will
[26:05] be providing to our department.
There is no planning commission u this
[26:11] week and um there are no other meetings
scheduled outside of the youth council
[26:17] um for this week.
I would like to highlight that the uh
[26:22] joint committee on funding key services
had opportunity to attend the Wind River
[26:26] Intertribal Council last week and from
um that uh opportunity the intertribal
[26:32] council approved a resolution of support
for the optional 3/4%
[26:38] uh tax that does go towards um serving
uh commercial air service, ground
[26:45] transportation or public transportation
and also ambulance service.
[26:51] And finally, um,
Mr. Chairman, I would like to, um,
[26:56] highlight June Bailey as well. Um,
appreciated the opportunity to to
[27:01] provide service. My kids enjoyed Sunday
morning driving past the area that they
[27:05] cleaned and took some pride in that. So,
thank you for also assigning me a spot
[27:10] where I didn't have to worry about them
getting run over.
[27:13] » So, I appreciate that.
>> Worry about my kids getting run over.
[27:17] That's right.
>> You never know. Um your honor, if it's
[27:21] uh okay, I'd like to defer the remainder
of my comments to public works director
[27:26] Tolman to provide an update on the um
force committee of the Fixar Road
[27:31] Citizen Committee recommended projects
for this construction season and then
[27:34] also to provide a bit of a construction
update for the projects that are going
[27:38] on around town.
>> Sounds good. Thank you, Mr. Tolman.
[27:41] » Hey, thank you, your honor. Uh members
of the council,
[27:44] excuse me. Last Monday, um, April 13th,
the force committee met, the fixer road
[27:50] citizen committee with a, um, with a
budget of about, um, just over 4 million
[27:58] in their in their account, for
4,223,000.
[28:01] They recommended uh, seven projects for
this upcoming year in the in the amount
[28:07] of um 3,473
or 475,000.
[28:12] Uh the first project of course being the
Riverview Road reconstruction project.
[28:17] Um that project is slated to uh where
the city hasn't paid any in construction
[28:22] fees at this point is just over 2
million uh 2,775,000.
[28:27] And the other projects I'll list off are
are recommended upcoming projects. Um a
[28:31] couple we're working on are right in the
works. Uh first of all is a slurry seal
[28:35] project. Has been mentioned a few times.
It's a slurry seal and roadway striping
[28:39] project. It's been budgeted at $350,000.
Some of the roadway striping has already
[28:44] been already taken place, but after the
slurry seal project is completely uh put
[28:48] together, uh which includes the South
Glenn edition, sections of downtown, um
[28:54] parts off of Riverview, and then also uh
a portion, um
[29:00] oh, the let me get this right. Excuse
me.
[29:04] uh the old town um the Ryan Heights
edition. Um on top of the hill between
[29:10] the administrative building and then
Smith's on Fremont and Park Street um
[29:14] right next to Main Street is are some
streets that are that are perfectly
[29:18] situated for this slurry seal project.
Um
[29:22] and and kind of a great candidate as we
kind of move around the city to do this
[29:26] project. So again, that project is about
uh keeps us about um about 100,000
[29:32] square yards of asphalt slurry seal uh
each year and takes in streets that that
[29:37] fit uh the parameter that they have a
good uh structure to them. The asphalt
[29:43] is holding together, not too worn, not
too nice, not not needing it, but also
[29:48] provides a wear surface and then a um UV
protectant surface for the for the
[29:52] roadways. So those areas were slated for
this year. that project's being worked
[29:57] on. I'll have I can I'll have a a better
report towards the end of the week on
[30:01] those exact areas as well. So, um three
other or four other projects that were
[30:08] approved by the force committee were the
Homestead roadway um section
[30:13] replacement. It's just a drainage issue
and the Homestead um the reach
[30:17] subdivision um a section where curb and
gutter and the roads been buckling
[30:22] because of a poor uh storm drain system.
Um multiple citizens have come to the
[30:27] force committee and expressed concern in
that area. So they put it aside 110,000
[30:31] to fix that section of roadway. Um a
reclamation portion on chimney chimney
[30:36] rock drive in the amount of $40,000.
Also concrete drainage and replacement
[30:41] next to the slurry seal projects. And
this would be about in the amount of
[30:46] $120,000.
And then finally is a um engineering
[30:52] budget, a budget for engineering study
and uh design and then to go to bid in
[30:57] the bsentennial subdivision. So this is
Liberty Flag and Independence drives and
[31:03] this has been um brought up multiple
times with the force community to to do
[31:07] repairs in that area. So
>> and so what's the plan with it? Is it to
[31:10] do repairs or just to study if it needs
to be repaired?
[31:13] » Uh um
>> because I can study it and it needs to
[31:16] be repaired.
[31:19] And that's and that that was the
recommendation as well is go right to
[31:22] engineering. Absolutely. And then create
a project.
[31:26] » Sounds good.
>> Thank you. I I wasn't trying to be
[31:29] facitious. It's just the last four or
five years we've been talking about flag
[31:34] and independence and every time I drive
by there I'm like when are we going to
[31:38] get this done? It needs to be done. So
all right. Thanks Mr. Tolman. Glad to
[31:43] hear we're getting on it.
>> Thank you. I appreciate it. We we
[31:45] thought we could do it in house, but in
the end, we thought we'd better get
[31:48] someone on board to help us keep moving.
>> Perfect. Sorry, I didn't mean to
[31:52] interrupt. Carry on.
>> Oh, that's perfect. Um
[31:55] » I just was telling you I did my own
study.
[31:58] » I feel pretty comfortable.
>> No, I only had two other items or or
[32:02] excuse me, three other items. Um there
is a will be a replacement of a covert
[32:07] on Webwood Road. That's upcoming. Uh
we're working with Riverton Valley
[32:11] Irrigation District to do that. They'll
close the roadway temporarily to replace
[32:14] the covert. Um I believe that's coming
in later this week or early next week.
[32:19] Um the drinking fountain project is uh
underway at city park. Um the fountain
[32:25] is the pad's going in as well as the
fountain. Um Apodaka construction is uh
[32:31] won won the bid to to put in that the
fountain and they're moving forward. So
[32:36] and then finally the riverview road
project utility work is near complete on
[32:40] that project and uh in preparation of
roadway work the next portion is the me
[32:45] next phase is going to put back the west
portion of the roadway and focus on uh
[32:50] bringing that back um to be able to be
paved when the plant opens up in about a
[32:55] month. So thank you your honor.
>> Perfect. Well thank you for that report.
[32:59] That's good news.
Okay. Uh couple of things then that I'll
[33:04] report on. Number one, we have a Fremont
County Association of Governments
[33:07] meeting coming up this Thursday. We're
going to be in Hudson starting at 11:00.
[33:11] Um,
[33:15] some good things going with FCAG. I had
the opportunity to report and discuss
[33:19] with the county commissioners. When was
that? Last week. Last week.
[33:24] » Um, as you may recall, we had the
resolution that was passed by Riverton,
[33:28] Lander,
Hudson, and Pavilion. um and the county
[33:33] and the county was discussing it and
what they wanted to do with it going
[33:36] forward. After some discussion and a
work session last week uh to which they
[33:41] invited all of the mayors of the
individual communities um they elected
[33:46] to go forward with their resolution as
it was worded and anyway it was good.
[33:50] Some questions were answered and it was
good opportunity to visit with them. the
[33:55] um
[34:00] I really appreciate by the way and Mr.
Butterfield doesn't uh toot his own
[34:05] horn. Is that the right way to say it?
Yeah. Um the whole idea that we've had
[34:10] tribal resolutions in support of this is
huge. Um, of course, state statute and
[34:17] and Fremont County is unique because we
have uh the reservation here, but and
[34:23] state statute does not require or
recognize tribal uh concurrence with a
[34:28] resolution as being required for a
resolution to be on the ballot. That
[34:32] being said, they were very cognizant of
and wanting to do better at building
[34:37] partnerships with both tribes,
particularly with the intertribal
[34:41] council. And I just wanted to applaud
that and say that uh it's my
[34:46] understanding you were the one who
reported and and got them to approve it
[34:50] and practically didn't have to say a
word. They said we're already prepared.
[34:54] » The team effort, your honor.
>> Yes, that's what he always says. Um so
[34:59] anyway, it was well done and appreciate
his hard work in that regard. Um I
[35:04] finally had to look it up and remember
what I am. So, Rotary is actually the
[35:08] chartered organization for the pack
which has just been organized. It's pack
[35:13] 4044
um and likely will be meeting at the
[35:17] Methodist church which is exciting. So
far don't have a lot of members of it.
[35:21] It's going to be a family pack, Cub
Scout pack and um
[35:27] excited for what they have to do. They
are looking for donations right now. Um
[35:31] especially as a new pack, they're
looking for things for be able to get
[35:33] uniforms, different things like that.
Um, great to be able to have uh, Rotary
[35:39] is the chartering organization
and um, anyway, just just good things
[35:44] going on there. Excited to see what they
have to do going forward. Uh, tomorrow
[35:49] of course we have the Boys and Girls
Club breakfast. Excited for that.
[35:52] Recognizing Cody Cody and Crystal
Meyers. Uh, anybody who knows both of
[35:57] those two individuals, they've done a
lot for our community over the years. I
[36:00] would say of anybody who would be able
to just think of this is a person who is
[36:06] an SRO in Fremont County, they would
probably think of Cody Myers. He's like
[36:11] the the poster child.
>> Um he's not a child anymore. He's
[36:15] getting old. Not that old, but um
anyway, he's like the poster child for
[36:20] it. And he and his wife have just done a
lot. Uh, one of the things that they've
[36:25] been doing in addition to that is have
had a a group that they've been doing
[36:29] that's been doing rodeo, different
things like that. Just so many things
[36:33] that benefit the youth in our uh county.
So recognizing them is very appropriate.
[36:38] I have a proclamation that I'm going to
read tomorrow and uh I think that's
[36:43] incredible as well. Um,
let's see. So, is Thursday. Oh,
[36:49] tomorrow we have a DUI task force uh
meeting. I haven't been able to attend
[36:52] those those for about the last six
months, but I will be attending
[36:55] tomorrow. So, that's good news. Um, we
also have a region 4 virtual meeting for
[37:01] um WHAM coming up this week. That's
Thursday, too, right? 3:00. Trying to
[37:07] remember. I think it's Thursday at 3.
I'll double check that.
[37:11] » Um,
so we have that coming up this week. uh
[37:15] we'll be talking about different things
that affect and uh can benefit our
[37:18] community that through WHAM as an
organization. So that's great news
[37:23] there.
>> Your honor, that WHAM meeting is
[37:26] tomorrow at
>> tomorrow. Yeah, I'll be there. It's on
[37:30] my calendar somewhere. It's on some
calendar. I have too many of them. But
[37:35] that's what we have going on. That's
what I've been able to attend and be uh
[37:38] able to participate in and certainly
appreciate that. Oh, one more thing.
[37:42] Wind River Visitors Council. For those
who don't know, Wind River Visitors
[37:46] Council is a lodging tax tourism board.
Uh it's a group that is a joint powers
[37:51] board that is basically set up to take
the lodging tax funds. Uh if you're
[37:58] aware of that, if you stay at a hotel in
Fremont County, there's a lodging tax
[38:01] that's applied to your lodging
and those funds will go towards uh
[38:07] encouraging tourism in the area. So that
group is the source of the TAD funds or
[38:13] the tourism asset development funds that
the uh city is part of getting sent out
[38:18] to uh different in organizations
and some of the discussion lately has
[38:24] been that they had voted and we've
talked about them a couple of times
[38:30] » uh and they had discussed well wait a
minute the uh uniform municipal fiscal
[38:35] procedures as act or umpa as it is more
commonly known it's not commonly known
[38:40] as that. Um,
we want to make sure we follow that. And
[38:46] so they had voted and said we're not
going to go through and come to the
[38:49] communities to have our budgets approved
anymore.
[38:53] That's a little bit of a difficult pill
to swallow when we have a joint powers
[38:57] agreement between Riverton and all of
the other communities in Fremont County
[39:01] that says that's what you're supposed to
do is come to the different communities
[39:04] to have your budget approved. after that
vote had had an opportunity to speak
[39:08] with them a little bit. Uh our
representative explained that it just
[39:12] puts us in an untenable position. And if
you're going to do that, if you're not
[39:16] going to be having that come for each of
the communities for approval for the
[39:21] budget,
then if we don't do something about that
[39:25] as the city of Riverton,
we're not enforcing our joint powers
[39:30] agreement. we're needing to enforce a
contract that we have entered into.
[39:36] So after some discussion, uh I think
what they're going to do is move to
[39:40] rescend that and go back to the way that
they've done it, which is in accordance
[39:43] with the joint powers agreement. So just
FYI, hopefully that goes forward and all
[39:49] is well.
>> All right. Well, that's it for me. Uh
[39:53] anyone in the audience wishing to
address the council regarding an item
[39:56] that's scheduled for a public hearing,
you'll be given an opportunity to speak
[39:59] during that public hearing. Uh, but if
you want to address the council of
[40:02] something that's not set for a public
hearing, um, you can come up now or when
[40:07] an agenda item is called that's not set
for a public hearing, feel free to come
[40:11] up then, too. I, you know, different
mayors do things differently. I
[40:16] certainly don't want people hollering
from the gallery or from the audience,
[40:20] but I do not mind at all. If you want an
opportunity to come up and speak, please
[40:24] come up and speak. The only thing I ask
you to do is number one, keep your
[40:29] topics germaine to whatever is being
discussed. If you're going to come up
[40:31] during an agenda item, number two, keep
your uh comments to five minutes if
[40:36] you're an individual or 10 minutes if
you're a part of a group. Just split it
[40:39] up between you and the other members of
the group. Um, and number three, keep
[40:44] your comments such that they're not
going to be fighting words or something
[40:48] that's going to directly comment on the
character or attack another person so
[40:52] that we can have it remain professional.
So, if you could come up, tell us your
[40:57] name, and if you're with an
organization, the organization you're
[40:59] with, we'd love to hear from you.
[41:04] » And you have to speak right into that
mic.
[41:06] » I'm uh Chuck Rogers. I'm speaking for
myself. Um,
[41:13] and
let me
[41:17] pass three pictures around. And this
this will relate to
[41:28] what I'm talking
[41:34] this regard. First, I appreciate uh the
amount of time and uh the energy uh that
[41:43] you folks put in to uh to benefit our
our community. Thank you. Um,
[41:51] this relates to the intersection of Hill
Street and uh and West Maine up by the
[42:01] college. Uh, it's been a horse I've been
riding on. I I I just want to make sure
[42:09] that it is
still on our radar or is again on our
[42:15] radar. Uh I didn't hear the force
committee uh mentioning it. Um
[42:24] anyway, the uh the first picture, you
know, my wife
[42:30] was the day before her
70 before she turned 76, she was in an
[42:37] accident going across
Main Street from
[42:44] from the college on Hill Street.
and uh first accident she was ever in,
[42:52] you know, and that's pretty amazing. And
and she was saying I, you know, I didn't
[42:57] see him, you know, and so I started to
investigate
[43:03] and the first picture there relates, you
know, the the wrecked car.
[43:11] It was t-boned. The second picture
shows the investigation.
[43:18] You know, if you look out your
the passenger side window,
[43:26] you see maybe 30 yards up the up the
road on West Main.
[43:35] You have 1.8 seconds. If somebody's
driving the speed limit of 45, you have
[43:42] 1.8 seconds between the time when the
person is in your the blind spot and
[43:52] that car arrives in the middle of the of
the the intersection. So, you know, you
[43:58] can look left, right, left again,
pull out, and you're, you know, if that
[44:05] person is on the edge of the inner of
the blind spot, you're going to hit him
[44:11] or he'll hit you. You know, you're going
to t-bone or get t-boned. Um
[44:19] the so what what you guys did and thank
you is you had uh you you painted a
[44:27] triangle up there uh which I think is
really helpful. Uh it it causes you you
[44:35] know the driver to uh square up to the
intersection. So instead of 1.8 eight
[44:43] seconds of lead time, you have 16
seconds.
[44:50] You know, that's quite a difference. So,
what I what I would like to do, I mean,
[44:56] the
the ideal solution
[45:00] um would be to modify in my opinion to
modify that
[45:07] um intersection, you know, to square it
up. And I realize there are all kinds of
[45:14] problems with that u you know uh inter
agency stuff and state stuff and you
[45:20] know everything else. Um so I think this
is not a bad second solution. Um the
[45:33] uh
[45:36] but we need to put something that forces
people to make that that curve to you
[45:45] know to pull the car to the right like
um
[45:50] uh
you know a small bump
[45:55] uh or a curb you know or an inch uh
raise up on the, you know, on the
[46:02] triangle. Something that will allow
trucks coming up main to turn without
[46:10] ruining anything. Uh, but also forces a
driver to square up to that intersection
[46:18] so that he has 16 seconds of lead time
rather than less than two.
[46:23] Um I I think other
solutions you know are I in my opinion
[46:30] are not as good. You uh
if you enforce a 30 mph speed limit
[46:39] instead of 45 then instead of 1.8
seconds you have 2.7 seconds.
[46:47] You're you're still dead you know. uh if
you have a light there,
[46:54] if somebody rides a light, you know,
runs a light,
[46:59] you still have two seconds.
So, I think, you know, the the number
[47:06] one thing is is to do something with
that uh that intersection. So anyway, I
[47:12] want to get that get that back on the uh
in your in your focus and uh thank you.
[47:20] » Thank you. Appreciate it, Chuck.
>> Good reminder. We've talked about it a
[47:24] couple of times and just so you know,
even before
[47:29] » you came tonight, we had talked about
this just about a month or two ago. So
[47:33] it's it's not being forgotten, but
there's some complications as you know.
[47:37] » Oh, I know. It's it's an interesting
situation where it's not technically our
[47:42] highway.
>> I Yeah, I realize that, you know,
[47:46] » it gets hard,
>> but I think, you know, somebody else is
[47:50] going to get killed eventually. There
there's one person that I know of, I
[47:54] think two have died there from that,
>> right?
[47:58] » That you know, from wrecks there. there
are, you know, two and a half injuries
[48:04] per year over like a 15-year period. Uh
before we did this thing, I don't know
[48:12] what the what the deal is now, but uh
you know, somebody's going to sue us. Uh
[48:19] and I think at least we can say, okay,
we did what we can do. You know, we've
[48:26] addressed it as well as we can. We don't
have all of the controls. I understand.
[48:32] Uh but we got to do what we can do. So,
thank you.
[48:36] » I appreciate you coming in. Thank you,
sir.
[48:41] Anyone else?
[48:45] » I'm assuming most people are here for
another agenda item then. Oh, feel free
[48:48] to come up, sir.
[48:59] Just so you know,
new fancy technology, but we have time
[49:05] here so you can keep track of where
you're at compared to five minutes.
[49:10] » Thank you.
Hello everyone. Uh my name is Larry
[49:15] Wallace. I'm with the wide Wind River
Animal Welfare Association
[49:22] has been around for a few years. And I
know that some of you here in the room
[49:29] have had and do have good dogs and cats
that you love so much in your homes.
[49:36] And uh me self over the years so many
different cats and dogs in our homes.
[49:43] And I'm talking today about uh
particularly
[49:49] the idea of euthanizing the animals at
paw the paws situation. I just learned
[49:56] about this yesterday in the newspaper
and uh wanted just to say simply that uh
[50:04] I've worked with paws through the times
uh helping them with other animals that
[50:11] I've taken to them that were fraed
[50:16] a place to be and and they take them in
and find a way to find them homes. Uh, I
[50:22] even found a dog myself years ago at at
the pause that I've had for many, many
[50:29] years and she was such a good dog for me
at home. Uh what I would like to say is
[50:36] that when we think about there's so many
cats and dogs there that need to be
[50:41] taken care of, I do believe that in our
Riverton community and even in the whole
[50:51] uh area around our areas, there are many
many people who would like to have good
[50:56] dogs or cats taking them into their
homes. So I think if we get out a lot of
[51:01] information
about what can be available there and
[51:06] how they can do that is a way to sort of
bring more of those cats and dogs out of
[51:12] the paws and maybe into home situations.
Um, I plan to talk with the pause uh
[51:21] this week or next week about the
situation that's happening there because
[51:27] about a month ago, I was out there at
the pause place and looking at all the
[51:31] cats and dogs they had. They had some
really good small dogs and bigger ones
[51:36] and some barked and some wanted to be
petted and uh so it was fine to see what
[51:42] was going on there uh at the service
that they offer. Uh I'm planning to get
[51:50] this information out about the need some
help for the cats and dogs to find
[51:56] homes. I'm good at uh doing posters and
things like that and also getting things
[52:03] around to different communities like the
churches and other thing to let them
[52:08] know that they need to come out to pause
and and look at the animals that they
[52:13] might want to take at home. Uh I also
certainly realize that we have uh local
[52:20] access on number 191
on TV and I found that and found that to
[52:27] be helpful to me to find a lot of things
happening around the city. So I think if
[52:32] we put some information more on that
about uh the needs of of the animals to
[52:38] have good homes and to take away from
the pause so that uh they have good
[52:44] homes. Uh certainly I've worked with
some of the uh uh
[52:52] some of the tribes about the spaying
that they have going on pretty couple
[52:57] times a year to help keep the puppies
and kitties, you know, out of the way
[53:03] when they don't when they don't need to
be in the situation. Uh I also think we
[53:09] need to think about uh Facebook as a
possibility sort of open up some of
[53:15] these possibilities for these animals to
find new homes. So glad to talk to you
[53:21] this evening and uh uh hope that we can
work something to get this thing and
[53:26] make a good uh plan for the cats and
dogs and pause. Thank you.
[53:31] » Thank you, Mr. Wallace. Appreciate that.
[53:40] All right, we'll move on. Thank you for
our two that were willing to come up and
[53:46] speak. Anybody that's ever done that
knows it's a little bit nerve-wracking.
[53:51] It is for us, too.
All right. Uh consent agenda.
[53:55] Administrative services director, please
read the consent agenda items by title
[53:59] only.
>> Yes, your honor. Minutes of the April
[54:01] 7th, 2026 regular council meeting.
Minutes of the April 14th, 2026 council
[54:06] work session. Minutes of the April 21st,
2026 finance committee meeting. Finance
[54:12] committee recommendations from April
21st, 2026.
[54:16] » All right. We have any uh well, I'll
just say what's the uh report
[54:21] recommendation from the finance
committee, Mr.
[54:24] » Thank you, your honor. The finance
committee met at 6:45 p.m. this evening
[54:27] and recommend consideration of claims to
be paid in the amount of $331,8567.
[54:33] Elon credit card in the amount of
$6,11346.
[54:38] Payroll and liabilities for April 7th,
2026 and uh April 16th, 2026 in the
[54:44] amount of $248,776.73
[54:48] for a total of $586,746.86.
[54:53] » All right. Right. I'd entertain a motion
to approve the consent agenda as
[54:56] presented.
>> So moved.
[54:58] » Second.
>> Motion by Councilman Bailey, second by
[55:01] Councilwoman Borders.
>> Discussion. Your honor, all abstain from
[55:06] the Bailey Enterprises line items in the
finance committee report.
[55:11] » All right. Any other discussion?
All in favor say I.
[55:15] » I.
>> I.
[55:17] » Any oppose say nay.
>> I vote I. Motion passes. Community
[55:22] development department community
development d department annual report.
[55:27] » Mr. Misho,
>> you are
[55:29] » ready for this?
>> I am ready. We are ready for this. And
[55:32] may I approach the podium, your honor?
>> Yes, please. And I see you have a couple
[55:36] of people with you that are
employees of the community development
[55:40] department. I recognize them. Other
people may recognize them.
[55:46] Not like police officers where if you
recognize them, it's probably because
[55:49] you've been arrested or something.
I don't know. Have you been arresting
[55:53] anybody lately? No.
>> Have I been arresting anyone?
[55:58] » I was just I'm trying to give some delay
so that you can get set up.
[56:02] » Oh, well, thank you, your honor.
>> I'll do a song and dance routine.
[56:06] » Oh, I'm thankful. That's the chief's
department, but um I did want to go back
[56:10] to uh Officer Jeff um when the patch. He
did win the chili cookoff for the city
[56:15] this last year. So maybe we should
create a patch for that. I don't know.
[56:20] Not like Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts where
you get a badge if you
[56:24] » I don't know.
>> I think maybe they should.
[56:27] » It wouldn't be a bad idea.
>> Off.
[56:30] » Yeah, they've been off for the last
couple of minutes.
[56:32] » Trophy.
>> Is that your desktop there then?
[56:37] » It is not.
>> See here.
[56:48] Yeah, this is your department, isn't it?
>> We're working on phones and internet.
[56:54] Sorry.
>> There are higher priorities.
[56:57] » Connectivity is kind of a big deal. Oh,
here he comes.
[57:01] » Yeah,
>> usually we figure it out before we make
[57:04] Kirk come out.
[57:14] » That you're not in presenter mode. Or do
you want to be in presenter mode?
[57:19] » I do. Yeah, that'd be great.
[57:23] » Start it. Should have your notes here.
Should put
[57:29] » So, if I just go ahead and do this
presenter right here.
[57:36] » Look at that.
>> Look at that.
[57:38] » Thank you, buddy.
>> Left him hanging.
[57:41] » Oh, man.
[57:45] » He's got work to do. All right,
>> back to the control tower.
[57:49] » I would just like to mention I am so
grateful to the IT department. They are
[57:53] wonderful and they always help me with
my needs in a very very timely manner.
[57:57] So, Mia, thanks to you and your crew.
Um, good evening your honor and uh
[58:02] members of the city council. Again, I am
Gary Misho. I'm the community
[58:06] development director and we have uh our
staff here tonight. We have a couple
[58:10] that couldn't make it due to family
emergencies, but we're happy to be here
[58:14] and give a report on the community
development department. Um, just a
[58:18] little overview of the community
development department. We oversee
[58:21] planning, zoning, permits, um,
registrations, contractor registrations,
[58:26] and building permits and code compliance
and building maintenance.
[58:33] And this is our department mission. It's
taken right off our page from the city
[58:36] website. It is uh to promote the general
health, safety and welfare of the
[58:41] citizens of Riverton to provide quality
services to assist the citizens with
[58:46] code and permit processes and planning
and zoning processes. To work with
[58:51] owners, developers and contractors to
achieve their goals and to work with
[58:55] other city departments for a coordinated
effort towards excellence in customer
[58:58] service.
So as part of that we uh our department
[59:04] we deal with planning, zoning, building
construction and code enforcement. And
[59:08] our code enforcement operates under the
current standards with the ICC codes uh
[59:13] the 2024 international building codes
and uh the 2023 international or
[59:19] national electrical code and these are
required by state statute and they are
[59:23] updated uh the international building
codes are updated every three years. So,
[59:27] we'll be looking at 2027, another update
there. Um, we also have a lot of
[59:33] resources. We try to be resources for
the community with their questions um
[59:37] with for property owners, for
contractors, um, con for construction
[59:43] and building permits. We've got an
assortment of resources in the front.
[59:47] When the citizens of Riverton walk in,
they can use as pamphlets that can help
[59:52] them build decks or anything like that.
We especially take pride in having the
[59:57] community development part department
open Monday through Friday 8 to 5:00 so
[1:00:02] the public knows if they need to come in
and they need help or they want to get a
[1:00:05] permit we are open and our our
department is super proud of that and we
[1:00:10] also uh focus on records management.
It's really important that we keep good
[1:00:14] track of our records, our plats, our
maps, our building permits, addresses,
[1:00:19] lot history, things like that.
We have four full-time professionals in
[1:00:26] the community development side. We have
myself as the community development
[1:00:29] director. And we have Erin Troyer. He's
the facilities inspection manager. Um
[1:00:34] Christy Peterson, who's who was the
permit technician. I hope she's home
[1:00:38] watching and enjoying her retirement.
She just retired last week and um super
[1:00:43] happy for her. And then we have Chelsea
Porter who is our community development
[1:00:48] clerk.
And our department works under the
[1:00:51] planning commission or we work with the
planning commission um with the board of
[1:00:56] adjustment and with the uh construction
board of appeals
[1:01:05] and um
I guess next Chelsea is it okay if I
[1:01:09] hand this off to you for a presentation
on the planning side of things?
[1:01:13] Absolutely.
[1:01:17] » Your honor, council members, I'm Chelsea
Porter. I am the clerk for the community
[1:01:21] development department. In this
position, we I work directly with the
[1:01:27] planning commission, but the community
development department is over the
[1:01:30] planning commission and the construction
board of appeals. So, you also hear the
[1:01:35] board of adjustments that is a
subcommittee of planning commission.
[1:01:39] It's a little breakdown there for you.
So for fiscal year 26, I started
[1:01:46] compiling the list based on what
happened in actual fiscal year 26. So
[1:01:51] here is a breakdown of the meetings that
we've had, some of the economic drivers
[1:01:57] and the actions that we have
had happen
[1:02:04] since my time as the community
development clerk in November of 2024
[1:02:09] through March of 2026.
That chart kind of gives you an
[1:02:15] breakdown of the different projects that
I've been involved in during my time
[1:02:22] in an effort to save everybody's time. I
will not go through each one
[1:02:26] individually.
>> Oh, we were planning on that.
[1:02:30] » Um, Christy helped us put this together
before she left. I'll let Gary take it
[1:02:34] back over from there unless there are
any questions for me.
[1:02:37] » Any questions?
Did Christie retire just to not have to
[1:02:41] do this? Is that the power of not
wanting
[1:02:44] » suspicion?
>> Yeah,
[1:02:47] » thanks Chelsea. We That's correct. Yes.
And uh so our planning commission and
[1:02:52] board of adjustments meets the first and
third Thursdays of the month and so we
[1:02:56] have them almost you regularly unless
there's no official business between for
[1:03:01] them to address. But Chelsea, thank you
for that. I appreciate it. Uh so Christy
[1:03:06] did put this chart together before she
left for us. This talks about the
[1:03:10] building department and the permits.
Over the past three years, we've
[1:03:14] processed almost 1,900 permits. Um
actually I did some calculations. I
[1:03:19] think she processed almost 20,000
permits in our time building permits
[1:03:23] with the city of Riverton, which is
impressive.
[1:03:26] Um construction trends, we had new
single family residences, 11 in 2025,
[1:03:32] which was a 37% increase over the year
before. Um 41 major alterations and
[1:03:38] material projects uh for residential
improvements as well. And then if you
[1:03:42] look on the top uh row there, you'll see
that uh we have re-roof permits from 23,
[1:03:48] 24, and 25. We had a a hail storm was
there in that came through and um had a
[1:03:55] lot of re- roofs uh in that time of 700
and some. It it was incredible. So,
[1:04:00] we're just getting through that. And
then we had that big windstorm that came
[1:04:04] through three or four weeks ago. So, now
we're seeing a lot of re-roofs come
[1:04:08] through again. And um guess it's just
what happens with the weather. But, uh a
[1:04:14] lot of lot of stuff going. We're seeing
the U building permits are staying
[1:04:18] strong. Uh a lot of stuff going on and
things are going really well there. Um
[1:04:25] as far as the code enforcement process,
um our mission is to safeguard health,
[1:04:30] safety and property and public welfare
through the enforcement of city adopted
[1:04:34] technical codes and ordinances. Um
through the enforcement and also through
[1:04:39] education and um the compliance process.
What we try and do is we we get a lot of
[1:04:44] citizen reports and we'll try and
address those. We also do employee
[1:04:49] observation, but once we learn about
something, we try and take a lot of time
[1:04:53] to um research and find out what's
really going on before we do anything.
[1:04:58] Um and then we try and work with the um
with the people that are involved to
[1:05:07] solve things amicably, find out what's
going on and just resolve the issues
[1:05:11] versus um you know creating a lot of
conflict there. Um common neighborhood
[1:05:16] issues, we've got construction without
permits or illegal structures. We see
[1:05:21] that and um contractor registration,
temporary merchants. So when you see
[1:05:26] these food trucks around town, across
the street or whatever, they have to be
[1:05:30] registered with us and um so we have we
keep track of that. Home occupations,
[1:05:35] things like that,
>> Mr. Misho. And if I recall that
[1:05:39] temporary permitting
process came about with
[1:05:44] Councilman Carr
or who was it that came up with that?
[1:05:49] When did that come about? Do you
remember
[1:05:52] » for the temporary merchants?
>> It was just before I
[1:05:56] » was just before you came in
>> slurs.
[1:05:58] » And I think it's important for people to
recognize that because our code as it
[1:06:02] stands would suggest you can't be just
selling food on the street corner. And
[1:06:09] so we wanted to build because the
recognition was food trucks are becoming
[1:06:13] a thing. We wanted to build into our
code a way that we can do that. I mean,
[1:06:18] even we had, of course, Phil's dog
shack, which has been around for years,
[1:06:23] but we kind of cobbled together some
sort of Frankenstein way to be able to
[1:06:27] have them allowed to operate, but the
temporary merchant permit just makes
[1:06:32] that much easier and appreciate all the
work you do with that.
[1:06:36] » Well, thank you. I I have to give credit
to Chelsea for that and she makes the
[1:06:39] process really easy. So, if you're a
temporary merchant out there or you want
[1:06:43] to become one, contact Chelsea. she'll
get you set up um quick
[1:06:47] » and it's not a complicated process. We
just want to make sure that you're
[1:06:52] uh certified with like the Department of
Agriculture so that you're not like
[1:06:56] serving something that's illegal.
>> Properly preparing
[1:06:58] » Yeah. Yeah. properly preparing food.
That's a good way to put it. And we want
[1:07:02] to make sure that we're aware of you and
we know how to get a hold of you if
[1:07:06] there's any issues and you're
registered. I mean, it's not a very
[1:07:09] complex thing. And
>> sales tax.
[1:07:11] » Yeah.
>> Yes. Complying with the sales tax
[1:07:13] requirements as well. Mhm.
>> Anyway, just
[1:07:17] » thank you for that, Mayor. I appreciate
it. Yes. And uh cont again, just
[1:07:21] contractor registration. So, if you're
going to be doing work in the city of
[1:07:25] Riverton, I just want to take this
opportunity to say, you know, make sure
[1:07:29] you get your project permitted. And
also, if you're a contractor, please
[1:07:34] come in and register as a contract with
the city. Contractor with the city.
[1:07:38] Again, you just need to contact Chelsea.
You can contact me, too. We just want
[1:07:42] you to get set up.
[1:07:47] All right. And then our building
inspector, um, he works closely with
[1:07:51] property owners and contractors during
the conceptual design phase, also during
[1:07:56] the construction phase. Um, he completes
inspections throughout a project's
[1:08:00] process. It's just not it's not
typically like, okay, you get the
[1:08:04] building permit and then we do the final
inspection. There's usually inspections
[1:08:07] that happen throughout that process. Um
he provides some he provides great
[1:08:12] expertise in building construction. He's
ICC certified. He's done a great job
[1:08:17] getting some certifications with that.
Um he including the building plan
[1:08:22] reviews. He does a lot of our um all of
our building plan reviews and ensures
[1:08:27] that our codes are followed. So through
that whole process, we try and
[1:08:31] collaborate and work closely with
contractors, property owners, everyone
[1:08:35] to help make sure that this process goes
as smoothly as possible.
[1:08:40] » And you have someone here with you that
kind of looks a little building
[1:08:43] inspector. Would it be possible to have
him come up to the mic and introduce
[1:08:47] himself?
>> Your honor, we could absolutely have
[1:08:50] him. And that's actually a great uh
continuence into what we're doing with
[1:08:55] our next uh parts. We want to highlight
some of the projects that have been
[1:08:59] going on in Riverton over the next
years. So Erin, if you want to come up
[1:09:02] and introduce yourself real quick and
then we'll
[1:09:06] » Hi all, my name is Aaron Troyer. Happy
to be here. Um, we'll just go through
[1:09:10] some of these projects. There's not a
lot to note as far as negatives. They
[1:09:15] all went really smooth, all the
commercial stuff this year. So um, this
[1:09:20] first one here was up by the airport.
Just basic quite huts for some good
[1:09:25] storage. pretty beefy footing and stem
wall. Um the only issue with that was
[1:09:31] there appeared to be some ash in the
soil and looked like kind of could be
[1:09:35] concerning but engineer checked it out
and it was fine. So other than that it
[1:09:39] went smooth and
um it's not quite done yet. They still
[1:09:43] have to do some flooring monos slab and
some door work and then it'll be
[1:09:46] complete.
[1:09:52] » Yeah. Then the AT&T building got a
complete revamp inside.
[1:09:59] Um, new ADA bathroom, our new cosmetic
turned out real nice. Um, went real
[1:10:05] smooth. This one
went up fairly fast. Um, no issues.
[1:10:12] Customer seems happy. Good contractors
on that one. Good asset to have in town.
[1:10:19] uh pergola I designed for public works
department.
[1:10:23] Um it's per IBC spec so it's probably a
little overly beefed up but it's never
[1:10:29] going to go anywhere and it was pretty
cost effective. The materials didn't
[1:10:32] cost that much and it turned out real
nice and Rusty and his crew did a good
[1:10:36] job assembling it. They did everything
they were supposed to and it turned out
[1:10:38] real nice. I think they're going to add
some stain to it. I don't know if they
[1:10:42] did or not but I think they're going to
that's the plan moving forward. Is there
[1:10:46] any plan by the way for the shelter over
there at Sunset Park? Any sort of
[1:10:50] modifications or anything we're going to
be doing here coming up?
[1:10:53] » Yeah, there I'd been approached about
that and kind of put together something.
[1:10:58] I haven't heard recently, but I think
there's a plan to possibly rebuild that
[1:11:02] one.
>> This one's kind of neat because it's got
[1:11:05] slats on top, too. So, you could add
like a shade, temporary shade or
[1:11:08] something if you wanted to or your an
event or whatever hanging out
[1:11:10] underneath.
>> Great.
[1:11:13] Um, this is the Freedom Liquor Edition.
A new refrigerator
[1:11:18] um area, all new refrigeration units.
Turned out real nice. Um, they tied it
[1:11:24] into the existing building real nice.
It's not quite complete yet just due to
[1:11:29] some of the reefer stuff, but um, yeah,
they're very happy and
[1:11:35] they'll be able to stock more
[1:11:39] Fremont Center. Um figured we'd put this
in there because it was a county
[1:11:44] project. They got a new Durlast roof. Um
quite a bit of square footage, large
[1:11:48] roof. Turned out real nice.
Uh the airplane hanger um turned out
[1:11:56] exceptional. Concrete work was
beautiful. Um
[1:12:01] there was some debate on the firewall
when it started, but we're able to work
[1:12:04] around that.
Um yeah, the owners are very happy and
[1:12:08] it turned out extremely nice.
no issues.
[1:12:15] Uh midway out on an RV. We're looking to
move in fast.
[1:12:19] Um so they have a pre-manufactured
building and took a little bit of
[1:12:24] planning just to make it up to
standards, city standards. We got ADA
[1:12:29] parking. They have a nice apron
approaching the deck and the ramp for
[1:12:33] ADA access.
Um, and then the occupancy, you know, we
[1:12:39] made it to where a family could get in
there, you know, for complete sales and
[1:12:44] they seem to be happy. I'm not sure if
their plan is to stay there or not. Um,
[1:12:47] but I think they're doing well so far on
sales and everything. So, we'll see what
[1:12:52] happens with that if not sure what their
future plan is, but it's set up to where
[1:12:56] they could stay.
Um, smart start preschool. Um you can
[1:13:03] see the picture on the left there.
That's it's a 2,000 square foot edition
[1:13:08] increasing their school size. It's uh
the monos lab is a structural monos lab
[1:13:13] also with the footing. And um we went
with the ADA bathrooms. It's not so much
[1:13:20] the kids are going to need them but for
future if they end up moving or selling.
[1:13:23] So nice ADA bathrooms and um egress
getting out and entry ADA.
[1:13:31] And then the Riverton High School
auditorium um went very smooth about as
[1:13:37] smooth as it could be for a project like
that. Turned out it's beautiful. I don't
[1:13:40] know if everyone's seen that or not, but
it holds around 800 people approximately
[1:13:45] 850 people or something like that. Gary
might have the exact number, but
[1:13:49] » that sounds about right. Yeah.
[1:13:54] But it turned out really nice. I'd
recommend taking a look if you haven't
[1:13:57] checked it out.
>> They've been doing a lot of plays and
[1:14:00] different stuff there. They've been
using it a lot.
[1:14:02] » Good. Yeah, it's it's an awesome
facility.
[1:14:05] » It actually was a little bit of a
competition between them and the middle
[1:14:07] school, but the middle school was able
to do the first plays there and they
[1:14:12] kind of have that as a feather in their
cap that they were the first ones to
[1:14:14] use.
>> I think they did a play there for u they
[1:14:18] brought a bunch of people back that were
in the speech and debate on that stuff.
[1:14:22] My daughter actually performed today and
it does look very nice. It's very cool
[1:14:25] in there.
>> Nice space.
[1:14:29] » And then we have the Amazon building.
Um, another project that went extremely
[1:14:34] well. It took a while to get started um
to get all the ducks in a row to get it
[1:14:39] moving. But once it started, it went
fine. In the winter cooperated because
[1:14:43] they had a lot of concrete work, which
would have been a problem, but the way
[1:14:46] the winter was, it didn't even matter.
Didn't phase project at all. Um, turned
[1:14:51] out real nice. Customer was happy. All
the deadlines were met. They were
[1:14:55] worried about that, but they met it
right up to the deadline. They were
[1:14:58] finished right on time.
Um, they ended up using electric heat
[1:15:03] and not gas. So, that was kind of
different. But, um, other than that,
[1:15:08] everything turned out real nice. Not
that that didn't, but it was just
[1:15:11] different, you know. Um, and I think the
customer's happy. We haven't heard any
[1:15:16] complaints.
[1:15:19] And then the new hospital, I only had
one inspection there that was for the
[1:15:23] gas um natural gas system. Other than
not the city, the department of health
[1:15:28] has taken over that and the city hasn't
had much to do with it. But that's
[1:15:32] looking really nice. It's a neat uh
floor plan. When you walk in there, it's
[1:15:35] all open, the windows and everything
when you go inside. So, I think that's
[1:15:38] going to be really pretty when it's
done.
[1:15:42] And I'll hand it back to Gary.
[1:15:47] » Didn't mean to throw you off, Gary.
Mayor, we're doing great. You just
[1:15:50] worked worked perfect in our plans and
just as the council can see, we've had a
[1:15:55] lot of projects this last year that we
should be really proud of as a
[1:15:58] community. Um Aaron did a nice job
helping facilitate those through the
[1:16:02] building process and thank you for that,
Aaron.
[1:16:05] Uh and also under our department, we do
have the building maintenance department
[1:16:09] and Blaine Hughes is our building
maintenance coordinator. He came on this
[1:16:13] last year. He's been doing a great job.
Blaine is back here. Um he's done a a
[1:16:18] lot of works independently, always
working on doing something to make it
[1:16:22] better around our facilities. Um lately
he's been working on the airport up
[1:16:26] there with the lawns and getting the
sprinkler systems going with some
[1:16:29] issues. But also he's been managing the
HVAC upgrades that project that we have
[1:16:35] going on. And um just last week the
contractor came in and put the last two
[1:16:40] rooftop units up on at the airport. In
another week, um the contractor from
[1:16:45] Denver, the train is going to come and
do some finetuning and we should be in
[1:16:49] good shape to close that project out
before the end of the fiscal year. And
[1:16:53] and Bla has just done a great job. He's
a great hand with that and sure
[1:16:56] appreciate it. Um we also have um Paul
Cross here. Paul is another ded we just
[1:17:03] have such a great dedicated facilities
maintenance staff. Paul will step up and
[1:17:07] do whatever whatever is needed to be
done anytime. And um does a lot of work
[1:17:11] up at at the airport and public works,
but again, he'll step in anytime. So,
[1:17:16] appreciate that. Um Anna Rose Green was
not able to make it here tonight because
[1:17:22] of family emergency. Um she works hard
also. an we've got her on and she works
[1:17:27] super hard um to to make sure that they
take a lot of pride in making sure that
[1:17:33] our facilities are super clean and
having a method and a process to keep
[1:17:37] doing that day after day and week after
week. So, like I said, can't say it
[1:17:42] enough, a dedicated staff.
Uh lastly, we've got goals. Um, of
[1:17:47] course, we want to provide superior
customer service, keep our offices open
[1:17:52] from 8:00 to 5:00 Monday through Friday,
and help help the community out. Um,
[1:17:56] work closely with businesses,
developers, and residents and
[1:17:59] contractors. Um, we've got a lot of
deferred maintenance here at city hall,
[1:18:05] a ton that we're going to need to
address in the next couple years, and
[1:18:08] we've put together a list of those
projects. um continue ICC training for
[1:18:13] our certifications, including getting a
new permit tech hired on in the very
[1:18:18] near future and getting them certified
with permit tech. Of course, we've got
[1:18:22] the EPA Brownfield communitywide
assessment grant that we're working
[1:18:25] through. That's $500,000.
There's no match or anything. We've
[1:18:29] hired AIRS as our consultant and they're
working through that. We're going to
[1:18:34] have a steering committee meeting and a
kickoff here in the next month. Um and
[1:18:39] then I I don't want to forget this.
We've been working super hard on the
[1:18:43] 250th
by Quinn Centennial celebration
[1:18:48] um for our country and this is a really
big deal you guys. It's the 250 50th
[1:18:53] celebration of the signing of one of the
most historical documents in the world,
[1:18:58] the signing of the Declaration of
Independence. And it's just an honor to
[1:19:01] get to work on that and see all the
pride coming out in our community. And
[1:19:06] of course, just to kind of look at it
through a 30,000 foot view, we're always
[1:19:10] focusing on providing excellence in the
rendevous city.
[1:19:15] » So, thank you.
>> Would it be possible to have Mr. Hughes
[1:19:18] and Mr. Cross come up just so we can see
their faces up close here?
[1:19:27] show.
>> Hey, see,
[1:19:33] » it's just that that way you could kind
of have that that uh worry out of the
[1:19:39] way so we don't lose you down the road
the next time we want you to come.
[1:19:44] » Thanks.
>> Appreciate Appreciate you both. And I'm
[1:19:47] I I I really do think that you guys do a
great job. I will say um
[1:19:54] you're exactly right, Mr. Misho. We
definitely have some deferred
[1:19:57] maintenance we got to take care of in
our in some of our facilities. I know
[1:20:01] even when I was on the council, so we're
talking
[1:20:06] » eight eight years ago rather than just
in the last four years. We've been
[1:20:10] talking about replacing the carpet in
this place for at least eight years now.
[1:20:15] Finally, we did fix and replace the
carpet in the police department, but we
[1:20:20] need to get the rest of it done. So, in
case anyone out there is like, "Your
[1:20:23] carpet looks terrible." We know. We're
working on it. It still looks good. It's
[1:20:28] washed. It's regularly carpet cleaned.
You guys are on it, and I appreciate it.
[1:20:33] But, yeah. So, but I mean anytime I'm in
one of the restrooms, in one of the any
[1:20:40] of the rooms here, our uh building
maintenance staff does an excellent job
[1:20:45] at just making it feel good. You It
doesn't matter what time of day. I'm
[1:20:50] here in the evenings randomly and Diana
is always out there cleaning and doing
[1:20:55] stuff and so you guys do great work and
it's noticed. Okay.
[1:21:01] Anything
else before we let Gary sit down?
[1:21:05] » I do have a question, your honor.
>> Sure.
[1:21:07] » And you're going to say you're the one
that's been doing it, but
[1:21:11] I routinely get calls from folks um that
have concerns about cleanliness and some
[1:21:17] of the hotels locally. Um and I always
refer them down here to you. I don't
[1:21:22] know if that's the correct method or who
they should be talking to. Can you
[1:21:27] elaborate on that a little bit? who I
should be referring them to, or is that
[1:21:30] something that your department deals
with after the fact, after the build,
[1:21:34] after the inspection process?
>> Um, your honor, uh, Councilwoman
[1:21:39] Johnson, yes, that's correct. So, if
they have issues with different things
[1:21:43] with buildings, uh, our department is
the correct department to contact and
[1:21:47] they're welcome to contact me. Um, when
it comes to like yards and sidewalks,
[1:21:51] vehicles, whatever, that's more of a cso
officer job, but we work seamlessly. we
[1:21:56] work together in trying to communicate
those and and take care of them.
[1:22:00] » Thank you. So,
>> you're saying to some extent that might
[1:22:03] get into code enforcement and that sort
of thing where you might be getting
[1:22:06] involved as the community development
department.
[1:22:09] » That's very well put, your honor.
>> Yes.
[1:22:11] » Okay.
>> I just wanted to make sure I was making
[1:22:13] » sure talk to the right people. So, thank
you.
[1:22:16] » Yeah. The last thing you want to do is
just somebody send somebody down a black
[1:22:19] hole where nothing ever happens.
>> Well, great. Anything else?
[1:22:26] Appreciate you, Mr. Misho. Keep up the
good work.
[1:22:29] » Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you for your crew being here.
[1:22:31] Thanks for coming here and sticking
around a little bit after hours.
[1:22:35] » It's always good to be able to get faces
to names, right?
[1:22:40] » Mind you, I've seen all of you. I
recognize all of your faces, but it's
[1:22:43] good to be able to have the community
see you and be able to recognize you.
[1:22:46] So, keep up the good work.
Okay.
[1:22:53] » Yes. Let's take a recess.
>> Anybody okay with that?
[1:22:57] » Yeah.
>> Yes.
[1:22:58] » Okay. We'll take a recess. It's 8:2.
Let's take a recess until We'll take a
[1:23:05] little longer than usual. Maybe go to
8:35.
[1:23:08] » Okay.
[1:23:13] » It's 8:36. I even had a longer break and
it still wasn't enough time. It's my own
[1:23:19] fault.
We are back in session for our regular
[1:23:22] meeting uh at 8:36.
Just got done with the community
[1:23:28] development department annual report. Uh
next item on the agenda is consideration
[1:23:33] of resolution 1549
1550 and 1551 utility rate adjustments.
[1:23:41] Um
I guess do we have a motion in regards
[1:23:45] to this agenda item? I know we had
approved the agenda as was, but did we
[1:23:50] want to go through this tonight or where
do we want to go?
[1:23:53] » Your honor, I would suggest with the
amount of stuff we have left and that
[1:23:58] that we move this discussion off to our
next regular meeting.
[1:24:02] » Okay. So, would that be I guess would it
to be to table it or how would we do
[1:24:07] that? Just kind of set this at the next
agenda,
[1:24:11] » your honor. Um, it's not necessary to
table because you don't have a motion on
[1:24:14] the floor to table, but I think you
could remove it. You'd amend your agenda
[1:24:18] to remove it if that's what you wanted
to do.
[1:24:20] » Okay. So, your motion is to amend the
agenda to remove it. Do we have a second
[1:24:24] on that?
>> Oh, just a quick I'll second, but we're
[1:24:29] not going to run into any delays on
budget if we
[1:24:34] » No.
>> Yeah. Second.
[1:24:36] » Okay. Motion and a second to remove item
13 from the agenda. get this set up for
[1:24:41] our next council meeting. Um, all in
favor say I.
[1:24:46] » I.
>> I.
[1:24:47] » Any oppose say nay.
I vote I. Motion passes. Item 13. We'll
[1:24:53] move that on. We'll have our
opportunity for people to discuss and
[1:24:58] everything.
>> I'm just curious if any of our audience
[1:25:01] members came here to speak to this.
Maybe we should hear them since they
[1:25:05] bothered come here. Was there anyone
here who was wanting to talk about
[1:25:08] utility rate adjustments?
Why don't you go ahead and come on up?
[1:25:13] We can hear from you now and then if you
want to come back at our next meeting,
[1:25:17] you're welcome to as well.
>> It'll give you some time to do your
[1:25:20] homework.
>> Sure. We like homework.
[1:25:24] » If you recall, Chancy was I was here
last year.
[1:25:29] » Yes. And I that's why I didn't say your
name because I never have done well at
[1:25:34] your last name. I'm sorry, Chanse.
That's fine. If you recall, Mr. Mayor, I
[1:25:39] told you last year that I was going to
be here. I was going to ask you guys a
[1:25:42] question this year.
[1:25:47] I told you that I was going to come here
and ask you, did my rate increases help
[1:25:50] us catch up on projects or have we
fallen farther behind?
[1:25:55] You followed that up with the discussion
regarding the
[1:26:00] number of projects outlined in the
capital improvement plan.
[1:26:05] uh
that number that got kicked around last
[1:26:08] year was 20. So my question would be how
many projects did we knock off of that
[1:26:14] list and how many projects did we add to
it?
[1:26:18] » Great question. We could discuss that
more at the next meeting. I can tell you
[1:26:23] uh we had a lot of different things like
uh ultraviolet
[1:26:27] and the uh what is that called for the I
I knew I was going to butcher it,
[1:26:32] » your honor. Yeah. the ultraviolet uh
room for disinfection and then also the
[1:26:38] clarifier project. There were there were
several and I'm so glad that you've come
[1:26:42] back. This was something staff discussed
because we anticipated this question. So
[1:26:46] » So if if you want we could report next
time or we could report now. It's up to
[1:26:50] you and kind of let you know we're good
either way. Mr. Lzeski,
[1:26:54] » I'm happy to come next time.
>> Okay.
[1:26:56] » I do have one other followup from last
year.
[1:26:58] » Great.
>> There was a lovely couple here. Uh I
[1:27:01] apologize if I butcher a name. I believe
it was Linda Drury. She was complaining
[1:27:06] about a fire hydrant that hadn't been
fixed in a couple decades. I think a
[1:27:10] year is a pretty decent timeline for
getting something like that fixed. I'd
[1:27:13] like to know if that has been fixed.
>> Perfect. We'll make sure we discuss
[1:27:17] that.
>> Yeah,
[1:27:18] » I think that was something that we took
care of almost right away.
[1:27:22] » I think that was part of the Spruce
Street
[1:27:24] » improvement project that it was
replaced.
[1:27:26] » Mr. Tolman.
>> Yeah, your honor. uh that those hydrants
[1:27:29] have been not only updated, they've been
moved to a ideal location so that
[1:27:34] everybody's covered with fire protection
in that area and then one more has been
[1:27:37] added as well. So there was um three
hydrants uh removed and then four
[1:27:42] installed with with this the with the
project and that was u funded over 50%
[1:27:47] by mineral royalty grants and then the
city matched that with capital
[1:27:51] improvement project grants. So 50% was
matched with water and sewer fund of
[1:27:56] that project. About $800,000 project.
Good deal.
[1:27:59] » Okay. Thank you. I look forward to next
time.
[1:28:02] » Thank you.
>> Thanks.
[1:28:08] » All right. New National Opioid
Settlement Agreement, Six Remnant
[1:28:13] Defendants. That just the title of this
just excites me.
[1:28:17] » Mr. Butterfield,
>> tell us about it.
[1:28:19] » Thank you, your honor. A lot of this
information is in your packet. I'll be
[1:28:22] uh brief because I know you you have a
lot of business tonight. Essentially,
[1:28:27] there is another opportunity part to
participate in nationwide settlements as
[1:28:31] it relates to the opioid uh epidemic.
The six remnant defendant settlement uh
[1:28:37] is dated became available in February of
2026.
[1:28:42] And what it does is it identifies um six
regional pharmaceutical distributors and
[1:28:47] dispensers that were not part of the
initial major opioid settlements.
[1:28:54] These six uh remnant defendants
um settled in an amount of 97,625,000
[1:29:05] uh dollars. And um unlike the previous
settlements,
[1:29:10] uh these funds will not be routed
through state attorneys general
[1:29:15] » but directly allocated to participating
uh local governments.
[1:29:22] The city of Riverton has opportunity to
opt into this and um it is eligible for
[1:29:29] point23%
[1:29:33] of the $97 million that equates to
$2,310.94
[1:29:39] and that's an estimate at this point. So
if you choose to opt into uh this
[1:29:44] settlement agreement that is what is
estimated that will be received in a
[1:29:48] one-time payment.
Thus far, the city of Riverton has
[1:29:53] received to date, and this is as
reported on the National Opioid
[1:29:57] Settlement uh website
uh $246,31262.
[1:30:05] There will be uh subsequent uh
settlement payments pursuant to the
[1:30:11] agreements that the city council has
already entered into and uh we
[1:30:15] anticipate receiving um an additional
approximate $500,000 from the other
[1:30:22] settlements that you've already engaged
in. And that would be and excuse me, I
[1:30:27] had a a mistype in the staff report. I
had said through 2037, but I did not
[1:30:33] take into account the additional Purdue
family settlement, and that runs through
[1:30:37] 2041.
So, these are funds that will be
[1:30:40] allocated annually for the uh several
years to come. Your honor, with that, I
[1:30:46] recommend that you enter into this
agreement and give signatory authority
[1:30:50] to the city administrator to get those
documents off.
[1:30:53] » Okay. I'd entertain a motion to do that.
opt into the six remnant defendant
[1:30:57] settlement agreement and give signatory
authority to the city administrator for
[1:31:00] us to enter into that litigation.
>> So moved.
[1:31:03] » Second.
>> Motion by councilwoman Johnson, second
[1:31:08] by councilwoman Borders. Any discussion?
[1:31:13] » It would be the attorney on this,
[1:31:18] your honor. Um, forgive me. I'm I'm um
forgetting the name right now. Let me
[1:31:23] provide it back to you. It's the same
attorney that has been working with us
[1:31:27] on the 1 Y and 1 Y2 settlements.
>> Okay, that's what I thought. Okay,
[1:31:33] all in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:31:36] » I.
>> Any oppose say nay.
[1:31:38] » I vote I. Motion passes. Consultant
selection real estate services. Mr.
[1:31:43] Butterfield.
>> Thank you, your honor. If you don't
[1:31:47] mind, let me just pull up the right
report.
[1:31:49] » Oh, I'm trying to rush you. That's my
goal.
[1:31:52] » Okay.
I'm ready.
[1:31:55] » Go ahead, please.
>> Uh, the city of Riverton has engaged
[1:31:58] with a local licensed real estate broker
since 2011 to assist with the marketing
[1:32:03] and sale of lots located at the RAIW
industrial park energy, excuse me,
[1:32:09] Energy Industrial Park and Wind River
Air Park.
[1:32:14] City has also relied on this broker to
assist with other professional real
[1:32:18] estate projects and services. The
contract with this broker expired in
[1:32:22] March of 2026. In light of that
expiration, the city solicited
[1:32:27] statements of qualification and
experience from local firms
[1:32:31] uh and specifically firms within the
corporate limits of the city of
[1:32:35] Riverton. Uh the RFQ or statements of
requests for statements of qualification
[1:32:41] centered on um a firm that could provide
marketing, evaluation, acquisition,
[1:32:47] exchange and also the disposition of
real property and that could inude
[1:32:52] include both private properties, excuse
me, private parties and also public
[1:32:57] agencies.
Two local brokerages responded to the
[1:33:02] request for qualification. A selection
committee pursuant to the city's uh
[1:33:06] professional services selection policy
was established
[1:33:10] consisted of two staff members and one
elected official. Included in your
[1:33:14] packet um are the ratings of the
selection committee of the two
[1:33:19] proposals. They were rated across four
um metrics. the submittal quality and
[1:33:26] completeness uh of the proposal, the
experience of the firm, the
[1:33:31] qualifications specific to the project
team, and then also an understanding of
[1:33:36] the requested services. Both firms
scored very high and represent um firms
[1:33:43] that could do the work that was
requested. That being said, home source
[1:33:48] re realy uh rated higher
than Snyder signature properties by the
[1:33:56] selection committee. The city council
has opportunity now to um enter into a
[1:34:02] contract negotiation with the highest
highest rated firm. It also could direct
[1:34:08] staff to conduct uh further interviews
with the two firms if you'd like to get
[1:34:13] more information before making that
recommendation. Thank you, your honor.
[1:34:17] » Thank you. I appreciate it.
>> I'd entertain a motion um
[1:34:24] regards to the selection of uh real
estate services and uh directing staff
[1:34:31] to finalize a contract for the services.
Move to select the highest rated firm.
[1:34:37] » Second.
>> Motion by Councilman Carr. Second by
[1:34:41] Councilman Bailey, Councilwoman Johnson.
[1:34:47] » Any other discussion.
[1:34:51] » All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:34:53] » Any oppose say nay.
>> I vote I. Motion passes.
[1:34:59] Next up on our agenda is Pause for Life
Animal League discussion.
[1:35:04] Mr. Butterfield was struggling with what
in the world would we ever put as this
[1:35:10] for a staff report and I said leave it
to me Mr. Butterfield
[1:35:15] and he said okay. So that's where we're
at. So let me kind of introduce the
[1:35:20] topic and then we'll have you guys come
up if you don't mind. You can come up
[1:35:24] now if you want but then you're just
going to be standing there while I talk
[1:35:26] and nobody likes that.
So, first I want to say we've got this
[1:35:31] on the agenda and the way id asked him
to do it was pause for life animal leak
[1:35:35] discussion and afterwards I realized
this actually is not quite the way that
[1:35:39] it needs to be framed.
Um
[1:35:43] at least if if online people are to be
believed if somebody uses the word
[1:35:48] euthanasia up here everybody decides to
donate to pause. So, if that's going to
[1:35:53] be the reaction, I'm going to just say
it all the time because if it means that
[1:35:57] pause gets more money, that's what I
want. So, um
[1:36:02] I was just joking with Mr. Bailey about
that. A little bit of uh what would you
[1:36:06] call that? Reverse psychology.
>> Yeah.
[1:36:09] Um,
so I I I want to say that when it comes
[1:36:13] to the importance of what PAUSE does
and their mission in terms of being a
[1:36:20] non-kill shelter and wanting to be able
to ensure that the animals in our town,
[1:36:27] animals in our county have a place to
stay until they are adopted and
[1:36:32] encouraging adoption. I fully support
that mission. That is I was talking with
[1:36:38] Pam Canam about this and I've gone to a
couple of Paws and Pearls or different
[1:36:42] PAUS
uh events and I think from our
[1:36:46] recollection at least I'm the only mayor
that's ever done that sitting mayor. Not
[1:36:50] that I'm saying that nobody has ever
done it but not saying that I'm not
[1:36:57] saying that to toot my horn. I'm saying
that to say I have put my money where my
[1:37:01] mouth is on that and have donated to PA
in different uh fundraisers and that
[1:37:07] sort of thing. So this isn't a question
of is PA good or is PA a good
[1:37:14] organization or is PA a worthy
organization.
[1:37:19] This comes down to
what I want to discuss is we have an
[1:37:24] obligation. Our obligation as the city
of Riverton, under our ordinances, we
[1:37:31] are required to impound animals that are
large. It's at large. It's not
[1:37:35] discretionary. It's not if we feel like
it. If there's an animal at large, we're
[1:37:38] supposed to be impounding them. Um, it's
a core public safety function.
[1:37:46] So, part of where we run into issues is
that's our op that's our requirement.
[1:37:54] Now we need to make sure that that is
met
[1:37:58] and we are in a situation where pause
whether it's due to funding or whether
[1:38:03] it's due to whatever it might be is put
in an untenable position where we come
[1:38:09] in with an animal and they don't have
space. So then that puts us in this
[1:38:15] position where we have this statutory
ordinance-wise obligation to be able to
[1:38:21] make sure that animals at large for
public safety concerns, for safety
[1:38:26] concerns, all of that are seized and
impounded.
[1:38:31] But we have paws who cannot step up and
take those animals at times.
[1:38:37] So this has been ongoing. This has been
going on for years. We know it. This has
[1:38:42] been something that has been a problem.
Pause recognizes it as a problem. The
[1:38:46] city recognizes it as a problem.
Something needs to be done about it.
[1:38:51] Now, if the city could say, "If we put
this much money into it, it's going to
[1:38:57] solve the problem." That'd be great. But
that's a little bit hard to do because
[1:39:03] we have space constraints.
We have a lot of different things that
[1:39:07] we're constrained by in terms of pause
using the city building to be able to
[1:39:11] complete their mission.
So,
[1:39:17] what I had talked about at our last
meeting, and I didn't want to have this
[1:39:21] become something that I was a bit
hypocritical, and I told this to
[1:39:25] Councilwoman Johnson, where I was like,
let's not have this turn into something
[1:39:29] besides we're going to consider these
applicants and be able to decide what
[1:39:33] we're going to do and how much money
would go to them. But what I had
[1:39:36] discussed at our last meeting is we need
to be able to wrap our arms around this
[1:39:40] and figure out what we're going to do
because the city has an obligation under
[1:39:45] our ordinances to ensure
that dogs at large are taken and they
[1:39:51] have a place to stay. They're held for 5
days. Whatever else happens to them
[1:39:56] after that, city code does allow them to
be euthanized in that set of
[1:40:00] circumstances if they are not
taken back to their home by the owner or
[1:40:06] if they're not adopted within that
period of time.
[1:40:10] We don't want that. But the reality is
we have animals that when they're
[1:40:16] seized, if we can't put them somewhere,
that's a problem because we're not doing
[1:40:21] what we're supposed to be doing. and
pause has a mission and they want to
[1:40:27] make sure that they have space for all
the animals.
[1:40:30] So my proposal at our last meeting was
to say let's get a committee together or
[1:40:36] somebody together that can be looking at
this. They can figure out what are we
[1:40:40] going to do because to be honest we've
been kicking the can down the road for
[1:40:44] quite a few years. And I don't mean that
as critical of pause. I don't mean that
[1:40:48] as critical of the city. It's been I
think we've both been looking at that
[1:40:51] and just hoping something will happen to
be able to help solve the problem.
[1:40:56] Well, nothing's happened. We haven't
magically had space added. We haven't
[1:41:00] magically had everybody decide to spay
and their pets. We haven't magically had
[1:41:05] uh the county or the reservation step up
and create their own animal shelter.
[1:41:11] PA gets animals from everybody in the
county. Period.
[1:41:17] So that's what we've got. And to be
frank, we've got an issue because if the
[1:41:24] city is going to do something
and pause is in our building, pause is
[1:41:30] using the space that we could be using
to do something different.
[1:41:34] Nobody here wants to say, "Let's kick
out Pause."
[1:41:38] Because we need to be impounding dogs.
So we just need to be able to look at it
[1:41:43] in a way of what in the world can we do
to make it so that the city can meet its
[1:41:48] obligation and pause can keep its
mission.
[1:41:52] And so the question is
rather than us sitting up here and
[1:41:56] talking about it at nauseium for hours
which I can do and I will do. I have no
[1:42:00] doubt I can do that. I think having a
group that can be smaller that can be
[1:42:06] nimble and that can look at this from
all angles would be appropriate.
[1:42:10] And so that's why I brought that up.
Now, somebody, I'm not going to say who,
[1:42:14] may have been Mr. Butterfield, said,
"Oh, you really like committees, do
[1:42:17] you?" Yes, I do like committees.
But I do see it as something that'd be
[1:42:22] so much easier than us sitting up here
and spending hours talking about this
[1:42:25] because there's a lot of aspects of what
goes on. And Mr. Slack had said, "If
[1:42:32] we're going to create a committee, I
would like to have somebody from the
[1:42:35] pause board on it." I agree with that
completely. It would make no sense to
[1:42:39] have a committee talking about animals
and then say, "But PA is not going to
[1:42:43] have a representative." That makes no
sense. So, I think if we were to do it,
[1:42:48] it would make sense to have somebody
from PAUSE.
[1:42:51] So, anyway,
the point is is for this to be
[1:42:55] discussion and kind of what does the
council want to do? I'm trying to
[1:42:58] present the problem as best as I can, as
bluntly as I can because the last time I
[1:43:04] said the word euthanasia, like a year
ago, everybody gasped in the audience
[1:43:08] and started throwing rocks at me. That's
fine. And I said it this year and the
[1:43:13] newspaper started gasping and throwing
rocks at me. And that's fine because
[1:43:18] reality is if it means that people are
going to donate more to pause because
[1:43:23] they're saying we don't want to
euthanize animals in Riverton, guess
[1:43:25] what the solution probably is? If you
don't want to euthanize animals in
[1:43:29] Riverton,
don't come to the city of Riverton and
[1:43:32] say, "Give them more money." Start
writing checks. I hate to say it, but
[1:43:37] that's what's truthful here.
>> And adopting pets.
[1:43:40] » And adopting pets.
>> Yeah.
[1:43:41] » Because we are not made out of money.
Okay. I had somebody that was saying,
[1:43:46] you were sitting here talking about
adnauseium for something that is less
[1:43:50] than 1% of our budget. And I agree it
is. It's not very much of our budget.
[1:43:55] But the reality is it's a pretty tight
budget. We run lean. There's not a lot
[1:44:01] of money to go around. And the reality
is also if we decided to give PA another
[1:44:06] $100,000 or something this year, it's
probably not going to solve all of our
[1:44:10] problems. It's not going to be enough to
expand. It's not going to be enough to
[1:44:14] make sure that we have the space we
need. So, if you don't want animals to
[1:44:19] be euthanized in the city of Riverton,
and you can quote me on this,
[1:44:23] you need to be putting money towards
pause. Period.
[1:44:28] You can come to me and gripe all you
like and say Riverton needs to be
[1:44:31] putting more money into it, but we're
not made of money.
[1:44:34] So,
that's open for discussion. What do we
[1:44:38] want to do? How do we want to get around
this problem so that we aren't coming
[1:44:42] back every year with pause hat in hand
acting like they have to sit here and
[1:44:47] beg for money for them to do what I
think is a great service but they can't
[1:44:52] do it lately.
[1:44:55] What do we got?
[1:44:59] » Your honor,
>> I'll let everybody else go first because
[1:45:02] I've got a lot to say.
>> Okay. And I guess the other point that I
[1:45:06] think we need to make sure is that we
don't just create this cycle of dogs and
[1:45:12] cats going in, stay there five days,
they get kicked back out, and we just
[1:45:18] keep recycling, which just costs
everybody time, energy, and money. So,
[1:45:23] so I think again, we got to find some
permanent type solutions
[1:45:29] » and the best one would be people
adopting them. and people adopting him
[1:45:32] is by far the best answer. And I I don't
know enough about it to say that people
[1:45:37] our average adoption rate in our
communities better or worse than anybody
[1:45:43] else or whatever, but uh
I mean it's huge.
[1:45:48] » Yeah.
>> And then the other one of course is the
[1:45:50] amount of money we spend on vet bills.
You know, I know we've heard stories and
[1:45:56] I'm not saying it's normal, but you
know, where you're spending a large
[1:45:59] amount of money on an animal that
probably is not
[1:46:04] going to make it anyway and or you know,
become adoptable at the end of that
[1:46:09] process. So again,
>> it again, if we had an unlimited budget
[1:46:15] wouldn't matter, but we don't.
>> We throw around a lot of great big
[1:46:19] numbers, okay? But,
you know, we talked about the water
[1:46:24] project that we did. Okay. It was
$800,000
[1:46:28] to put a water line in for what, four
blocks, maybe somewhere in that range.
[1:46:34] » Correct.
>> Okay. You know, the the city has huge
[1:46:39] responsibilities financially.
Are is that my five minutes? No.
[1:46:44] » Yeah.
Um,
[1:46:48] you know, our study we did several years
ago said we have $70 million worth of
[1:46:54] water infrastructure that needs to be
repaired by
[1:46:59] 2030 or 35 or something. It's not that
far away. And I mean, so again, we have
[1:47:06] we have huge we throw around big numbers
and yeah, we get a grant for a half
[1:47:09] million here and this and that, but that
doesn't go far when you're building
[1:47:14] water lines and and repairing wastewater
treatment plants and I can't imagine
[1:47:19] what the crane cost to lift the lid off
the clarifier that we had to repair. You
[1:47:24] know,
thousands of dollars an hour, I'm sure.
[1:47:28] So,
>> right.
[1:47:31] Other discussion. your honor. Um,
as
[1:47:35] » our pause liaison,
>> yes, as a sitting member of council for
[1:47:40] I'm in my eighth year and this is a
problem that doesn't go away. We kick
[1:47:46] the can down the road. It's highly
stressful for pause
[1:47:51] is stressful for the city because we're
not made of money. And I think a task
[1:47:58] force is a great idea to bring the
stakeholders together to sit and have
[1:48:03] meetings and try to come up with a
viable solution for everybody.
[1:48:09] Um, not a fan of euthanasia. I do think
that sometimes
[1:48:15] if an animal's, like Mike said, if an
animal's not going to make it, you spend
[1:48:20] thousand dollars and and they still
aren't going to make it. Well, maybe we
[1:48:25] do need to think about doing something
there. Um, not my favorite thing to do,
[1:48:31] but I I do believe it might be a
responsible thing to do. Um,
[1:48:38] it's a tough situation.
But I think the only way to come to a
[1:48:44] solution is to meet together, come up
with a game plan, um figure out the
[1:48:50] finances,
and
[1:48:53] hopefully we'll find a solution that
works for everybody.
[1:48:58] Well, and I think that the idea is is
we've got a contract for services with
[1:49:06] PAUSE that PAUSE has been having a hard
time being able to keep to what they're
[1:49:10] saying they can do.
But part of the issues that they're
[1:49:14] having with keeping and doing what they
say they're going to do is that they're
[1:49:17] in a city-owned building and there's
some limitations and being able to have
[1:49:21] expansion. It it just it gets hard. So,
yeah,
[1:49:24] » it does. And and we've all we're always
going to have the factor of
[1:49:28] irresponsible pet owners, people that
don't spay and neuter, people that let
[1:49:33] their dogs run wild and expect somebody
else to take care of them. And I don't
[1:49:39] see that problem ever getting resolved.
You just can't you can't make people do
[1:49:46] the right thing if they're not going to
do it. So
[1:49:48] » yeah,
>> task force is my my thought with all the
[1:49:54] stakeholders involved.
>> Representative from pause.
[1:49:58] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:50:02] » Thank you, your honor. Um
I've been thinking about this quite a
[1:50:06] bit since our last discussion and a word
that keeps coming up in my head is
[1:50:11] systemic. systemic failure on multiple
sides, right? And we have an
[1:50:21] organization that's caught in a catch 22
[1:50:26] that has no ability to shed any
liability. The city has shed
[1:50:32] considerable amount of liability,
[1:50:37] but yet they're held to a standard that
that they can't meet. No, I don't think
[1:50:42] anyone could under the circumstances.
And so
[1:50:46] when we look at
studying
[1:50:50] all of the options and turning over
every single rock,
[1:50:56] that I think that's what needs to happen
to have a sustainable path forward and
[1:51:03] have that path be a path to success
versus
[1:51:08] systemic failure.
[1:51:13] Well, and I think it could also be
something where it could say, "What are
[1:51:17] the space needs? What are the expansion
needs?" Correct.
[1:51:20] » How much money would need to go into
this to have that expansion need?
[1:51:25] » I mean, could you imagine PA being able
to have a
[1:51:29] » a number where they can say, "If we had
in our pocket today $250,000,
[1:51:36] for example, this is how we could
expand. this is how many more animals we
[1:51:40] could take. This is what we could do.
And I think being able to say that would
[1:51:45] be the biggest help.
But I don't know. It it's still kind of
[1:51:52] feels like
you've expanded a lot, right? We've got
[1:51:58] a lot of outdoor kennels now. We've got
a lot of different things they've done
[1:52:02] to try to make the best of the space
they have. And it's like, now what?
[1:52:08] Um, it's interesting. I will say
not very comparable, but just hoping
[1:52:15] that things will change down the road
sometimes does kind of work out. And by
[1:52:20] that I mean the Fremont County Detention
Center
[1:52:24] has for years was way over on their
prisoners such that they would have to
[1:52:30] ship prisoners out, that kind of thing.
And then all of a sudden they're not.
[1:52:36] they're usually under capacity lately.
And it's been that way for about two or
[1:52:40] three years. Um,
and
[1:52:45] things like that happen, but they don't
happen just overnight. And there has to
[1:52:50] be something that goes into it. So, it
is possible. It is possible to figure
[1:52:54] out things we can do.
So, yeah. Councilman Brothers, just
[1:53:00] because you're the only one that hasn't
said anything yet.
[1:53:02] » Yeah. Um, thank you. It's been an
interesting week, I think, after that
[1:53:08] conversation
um last week and seeing some of the
[1:53:12] stuff online. Um and like you said, it's
not anything that I think any of us
[1:53:16] would um desire. Uh
um so I don't think that's where we
[1:53:23] would want to go um with it, but finding
a solution truly is u the need um in
[1:53:33] this case and I think all of us coming
to a consensus as to what that is is the
[1:53:39] important thing um and whether that
means like a bigger area but my thing I
[1:53:44] think the biggest thing that I have been
thinking of is like the comments that
[1:53:48] I'm getting from people um around town
or that we've had and this has happened
[1:53:52] to me are dog bites that have occurred
and very literally there haven't been
[1:53:58] room or if there have been room the
police haven't been able to get the dogs
[1:54:03] into a place um in pause. Uh, and that
has been a situation that several
[1:54:12] um people in town actually have told me
about because I had my situation and
[1:54:17] they said, "Oh, that same thing happened
to me." And so, um, that was my bigger
[1:54:23] concern is making sure that that there
are kennels dedicated to like vicious
[1:54:28] animals or something because that is an
actual law has. And if we can't uphold
[1:54:35] laws that we have, then we're in
trouble. them like you know that that's
[1:54:41] that's a problem. So
>> well that's a really good point because
[1:54:46] part of what kind of prompted this
thought process for me was just about a
[1:54:50] couple of weeks ago I saw a dog out and
my thought was oh I should call that in
[1:54:56] and then my second thought was no they
don't have room I'm just going to create
[1:54:59] a nuisance for
RPD.
[1:55:03] » Yeah. And so then my thought then
becomes the next day after I had a
[1:55:09] chance to think about my actions. That
sounds kind of weird.
[1:55:13] I realized
that dog could bite somebody. That dog
[1:55:17] could spread rabies. That dog could do
so many things that could be destructive
[1:55:21] to our community. That's why we have the
laws we do. And here I am as the mayor
[1:55:27] and I'm not calling in a stray dog.
That's pretty ridiculous.
[1:55:33] I should have called in that stray dog
because we should have a solution
[1:55:37] available such that that dog can be
seized and put somewhere. Period.
[1:55:44] » Well, there was one actually in my yard
as I was leaving barking at me on the
[1:55:49] way here.
>> Yeah, there was one in a parking lot
[1:55:53] right as I was
>> driving by about 20 minutes before I
[1:55:57] came here.
>> I didn't have time to call Shannon. I'm
[1:56:00] sorry.
Um but uh yeah, so the the reality is
[1:56:06] it's like
if we're not able to have citizens that
[1:56:10] are feeling comfortable, let alone city
council members or mayors that feel
[1:56:14] comfortable saying, "Hey, we need to
address this. We're going to call it
[1:56:17] in." We need to do something.
>> That needs to change.
[1:56:20] » Yeah.
[1:56:24] » Thank you.
Was that a good segue to whatever you
[1:56:27] have to say, Councilwoman Johnson and
our representatives from Pause? I'm
[1:56:31] certainly not trying to leave it high
and dry. This was meant to be more of a
[1:56:35] discussion between the council, but I
definitely want to hear your thoughts.
[1:56:39] Um, and I certainly respected and
appreciated you emailing me, Mr. Slack,
[1:56:43] and saying, "Hey, if we're going to do
this, let's do it right." Councilwoman
[1:56:47] Johnson.
>> Your honor, um,
[1:56:53] first of all, I want to start with
saying thank you. I have worked the last
[1:56:57] six days non-stop
with our animal control officer, Ashley
[1:57:03] Soulen, who's the new treasurer, Whitney
who's in the back. Um, and we've had
[1:57:08] some very transparent and honest
conversations
[1:57:12] about what's taking place. And while I
understand that you want to move the
[1:57:16] conversation to a committee to discuss,
I think that in light of the um article
[1:57:23] that came out and how that put council
in such a negative light, I think it's
[1:57:29] appropriate that we discuss a little bit
of it tonight. And I think that um it's
[1:57:35] important to understand how we got to
where we're at and the challenges that
[1:57:39] they face.
Um
[1:57:44] understanding overcrowding is um
definitely due to lack of spay and
[1:57:52] neutering. One single feed cat can
produce 400 kittens in one year. And
[1:58:00] when people fail to spay and neuter
their pets,
[1:58:06] about half of those find a home. the
other half end up living in shelters and
[1:58:13] um
or or being euthanized. Um I think I can
[1:58:18] speak for everybody up here and say
nobody wants to to to use the word
[1:58:21] euthanization. Nobody wants to see that
happen. Um and I came with solutions
[1:58:26] actually. I'm I'm not just going to
gripe, but I think it's only fair that
[1:58:30] the public understand how PUA has gotten
themselves into this situation as well.
[1:58:35] Um, and I want to invite Ashley up to
the to to the counter and and Mr. Slack.
[1:58:40] Um, because we've had good conversations
and it's a partnership and we're working
[1:58:46] together and um
there's no fingerpointing. There's no
[1:58:52] there there's none of that. It's not a
heed
[1:58:54] things happen. But the bottom line of it
is is there has been um less than
[1:59:00] stellar accounting practices that has
gone on. Would you agree with that?
[1:59:05] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:59:09] Substantial accounting practices that
are making a difference in the numbers
[1:59:15] that they're seeing and and that they
have to come to us for every year. And a
[1:59:21] lot of it stems from
in my opinion and please correct me if
[1:59:27] you you feel I'm wrong. Um, but a lot of
that is is policies and how you operate
[1:59:33] and procedures and cutting cost and
spending wisely.
[1:59:38] Everything that I see and we went back
to 2022
[1:59:43] looking at financial records and trying
to go over at least I did. I think
[1:59:46] Ashley went back a year um in doing
that. I went back the to the
[1:59:52] since I so I took over treasurer in
February officially at the end of
[1:59:57] January and I've gone back almost to
January of 2025 is how far I've gone
[2:00:06] back to try to figure out what is
happening.
[2:00:08] » Despite your best efforts,
>> yes,
[2:00:11] » there are still some major errors that
that we can identify. We've identified a
[2:00:16] lot of things that are inconsistent with
good accounting practices. And I don't
[2:00:23] think that that's
anything nefarious that's been done. I
[2:00:27] think it's just a lack of of knowledge
in how
[2:00:32] nonprofits have to keep documentation
and
[2:00:37] appropriate accounting practices. Well,
it's just a function of the fact that
[2:00:41] we're talking about a nonprofit board
that's volunteers,
[2:00:45] » correct? And
>> basically love the mission.
[2:00:47] » And when you start looking at some of
the numbers, in 2021, you were operating
[2:00:52] in a deficit of about 23,600.
In 2022, you were in the positive. You
[2:00:58] ended the the the year 93,910.
In 2023, you were again in the negative
[2:01:05] at 46474.
And in 2024, you were in the negative at
[2:01:08] 14671.
Um,
[2:01:14] your vet bills are because of
non-payment.
[2:01:18] They're they're multiplying because
you're not making routine payments.
[2:01:22] Am I correct there? And you're in you're
acrewing interest. Yes. On that, it was
[2:01:28] at 6%.
The stock's now reduced that to 3% for
[2:01:33] last year's bills. and in 2024 she's
gone to uh 1.5%.
[2:01:38] So there's a lot of interest acrewing on
unpaid bills. There's a lot of um
[2:01:43] inconsistencies with reporting whether
it's a revenue, whether it's a payment
[2:01:49] directly to the stock,
[2:01:53] opening money market accounts. I I think
there's four accounts that
[2:01:58] hold balances that what what I'm trying
to say is
[2:02:04] even despite your best efforts like
tonight um and the updated information
[2:02:09] that you gave me, there's still a
significant difference in the numbers.
[2:02:13] The yearly total for food on the most
recent one that you gave me was 10,3407
[2:02:20] from what you could depict from the
vendors itself. yet
[2:02:23] » for a year.
>> That's for the year total is what is
[2:02:28] recorded from their vendor accounts.
Okay.
[2:02:33] But presented to council was 11,598 just
for Riverton City Animals.
[2:02:40] » So, can you help me understand that?
>> So, go ahead. What I've found
[2:02:46] um is that whoever was in charge of
Paw's QuickBooks
[2:02:54] created a bunch of
random categories.
[2:02:59] And when the bank account when the bank
statements get sent to QuickBooks,
[2:03:06] they even though the bank account was
reconciling, they weren't going in and
[2:03:11] making sure that the appropriate
line item from the the the bank account,
[2:03:16] the transaction from the bank account
matched whatever category it was being
[2:03:21] put in. And so therefore, when you go
into PAUSE's QuickBooks and you try to
[2:03:27] create a report,
the the the categories are so wonky.
[2:03:33] There's so many different ones and
there's so many subcategories and nobody
[2:03:37] was
um putting the appropriate transactions
[2:03:41] into the appropriate categories.
They were hitting reconcile. The bank
[2:03:46] account was reconciling. They were
saying, "Okay, great. We have the
[2:03:48] money's there." But they but then that
creates a problem when you're trying to
[2:03:52] figure out where did that money actually
go. So it was being put in. So, with the
[2:03:58] food,
I'm assuming because of what I've found,
[2:04:05] there probably was even more money than
the 11,000 whatever for food because
[2:04:09] Whitney and I went back and checked the
um Hill Science Diet account directly
[2:04:15] from the website and there was way more
food purchased during the fiscal year.
[2:04:22] it's just doesn't show up in QuickBooks
because it wasn't put into the
[2:04:26] appropriate category.
>> So, you might have had, for example, two
[2:04:29] different categories for food and it's
showing up that it's 11,000, but it
[2:04:34] could have been that the two combined
together might have been the truth. In
[2:04:38] other words, 21,000.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Or for instance,
[2:04:43] some of our pay I was trying to figure
out where did all the payroll go because
[2:04:47] I couldn't I couldn't get payroll to
match. Um, and somebody created a
[2:04:53] category called ATM,
and that's where some of the payroll was
[2:04:58] going was to this ATM category, and I
have I have no idea what that even
[2:05:02] stands for. So, there's just there's so
much discrepancy within QuickBooks that
[2:05:08] it's it's a it's a mess. And so moving
forward um the old accountant has been
[2:05:18] released
and um
[2:05:22] » thank you. I we've hired a new
accountant and I actually have a meeting
[2:05:26] with them tomorrow morning at 9:30 to
say here this is a mess and we need to
[2:05:33] figure this out along with the tax
returns that have some issues that need
[2:05:38] to be amended and fixed.
>> Um Ashley, I just want to stop you for a
[2:05:42] second because that's an important
point. Mhm.
[2:05:45] » Um when we talk about the tax returns on
their tax returns,
[2:05:52] the city's asset of the building is
being claimed on their tax returns
[2:05:57] with full depreciation. They're they're
the filings are not correct.
[2:06:02] » Okay.
>> You claim depreciation on a building
[2:06:04] that you don't own.
>> Exactly. And I that again that is that
[2:06:08] is again
an issue of either not being trained
[2:06:14] correctly when providing information to
you to whoever's filing your taxes or
[2:06:18] whatever. But it's on there plain as day
black and white big as Dallas. And your
[2:06:24] entire board signed off saying that you
knew that was on there which tells me
[2:06:30] there's some issues there. Right. Um,
and I'm not blasting you. I want to make
[2:06:36] that very clear. I think I think that
[2:06:44] there's been a lot of um trying to make
things work and operate correctly. But
[2:06:49] then throughout all of this, and I mean,
I could be here for hours with the
[2:06:54] inconsistencies that we found. And I'm
I'm I'm really trying hard to avoid that
[2:06:59] because I think committee is a good
suggestion. However, um I think it's it
[2:07:06] needs to be publicly stated because this
is not a city council issue or a city
[2:07:12] issue for your financial crisis. You
you've done this yourself by not seeking
[2:07:19] out appropriate accounting practices.
And
[2:07:23] when you come before the council and ask
for $75,000 and in retrospect, we're
[2:07:29] giving you near $97,000 a year because
reclamation fees, adoption fees,
[2:07:36] licensing fees, rabies fees, all that
stuff was never included prior to the
[2:07:40] general public doesn't feel as though
we're supporting you like we should when
[2:07:44] we are. It's just not being managed
correctly. And
[2:07:52] So, I'm just going to make a
recommendation tonight that that we um
[2:07:57] with everything we have here,
I I think we need to pay off the bill
[2:08:04] with the stock
minus the uh interest charges that have
[2:08:10] been incurred. Um giving them a fresh
start, zero dollars going forward for
[2:08:16] the remainder of the year. um and
exercise some fiscal responsibility.
[2:08:21] Um but then I would like to be on the
committee if it's the will of the
[2:08:27] council and work with them on getting
some things in the right direction so
[2:08:33] that they're self- sustaining and not
relying on government funding. the
[2:08:37] amount of money that they're taking in
is enough to sustain them
[2:08:43] through through fundraising
and and fees that they collect and all
[2:08:48] of that stuff. It's enough. It's just
got to be budgeted. And currently what's
[2:08:55] happening is they're their their budget
is being developed off of the amount
[2:08:59] that they're spending versus creating a
budget and sticking to that budget and
[2:09:03] spending within that budget. And there's
other solutions. I'm working on a
[2:09:09] responsible pet owner
program which actually ups up updates
[2:09:13] the cities. It puts us in a new in in
technology, the new technology of
[2:09:19] everything. Um and and lets us be more
accountable. There's also things that
[2:09:23] can be done like with feral cats and and
a humane trap and release program which
[2:09:31] reduces the crowding that they have
there. Um, but there there's a lot of
[2:09:36] there's a lot of solutions out there. We
just have to be able to work together
[2:09:40] and accomplish that. I think PAUSE does
good work. Um, and they mean well. I
[2:09:46] think they just need a little direction
and help.
[2:09:52] » Your honor,
>> Councilman Bailey.
[2:09:54] » I guess one of the things we need to
remember too though is Pause is their
[2:09:59] own nonprofit. They are not under the
city of Riverton.
[2:10:03] It is not really our job. I mean, and I
don't have any problem helping, but it
[2:10:09] is not our job to make sure their
accounting is in order and all of that
[2:10:13] other than with respect to if we're
going to give them money, we want to
[2:10:18] make sure they're using it for the
appropriate use that we're paying for.
[2:10:23] So, again, it's a little tricky for us
to be like me saying, I'm going to tell
[2:10:27] you what you should spend or how which
accountant you should use or whatever.
[2:10:31] That's that's your finances, not my
finances. And so, you know, we need to
[2:10:37] make sure we don't mix those together
because it's really not the city of
[2:10:41] Riverton's job to oversee PAUSE and
their financials. Our job is to manage
[2:10:49] the animals within the city of Riverton,
and we're funding that we're supplying
[2:10:53] to help them do that with or for us.
Well, I'm going to disagree with you,
[2:10:59] Councilman Bailey, because when we're
handing out taxpayers dollars, it is our
[2:11:04] obligation to make sure it's being spent
correctly and understand their
[2:11:06] financials. And as it relates to telling
them how to operate, it's not us telling
[2:11:12] them how to operate. It's having a seat
at the table for them taking care of our
[2:11:17] animals and coming to a mutual agreement
on what's going to work best for both
[2:11:20] the city and PAS. Um, and that relates
to the kennel usage that uh Shannon
[2:11:28] needs in order to impound animals and
how that can look in a more effective
[2:11:34] manner and what the shelter needs are in
terms of repairs and maybe expansion.
[2:11:41] And if that's the responsibility of the
city, then we should all be sitting at
[2:11:44] the table discussing that.
>> Your Councilman Carr.
[2:11:50] Um, I think that begs the question, we
also provide funding for other 501c3s.
[2:11:57] And so for me, it makes me wonder, are
we going down a road that
[2:12:04] what's good for the goose is good for
the gander, right? If we're going to do
[2:12:07] it to one, we're going to need to do it
to all.
[2:12:11] That being said,
none of the other 501c3s that we give or
[2:12:18] provide funding to
>> for direct services
[2:12:22] » are taking in direct
wards from the city, right?
[2:12:29] » They're also not doing something that
we're obligated by our or own ordinance
[2:12:33] to do if they didn't do it.
>> That's exactly what I'm saying. Yes.
[2:12:37] We're not obligated to send anyone to a
homeless shelter. we're not obligated to
[2:12:40] send anyone uh somewhere else.
So, so that creates a very unique
[2:12:48] situation, very unique.
But it's
[2:12:54] again I think I go back to the systemic
issues. These are all absolutely the
[2:12:59] minutia of the the entire issue, right?
We have systemic failures on
[2:13:07] both sides. And so I I am fully in
support of creating, you know, a
[2:13:13] committee to look at those systemic
failures. Let's see where they're at. I
[2:13:17] I certainly don't want to get into a
situation where we're providing
[2:13:22] oversight because again, then we have to
do it for everybody.
[2:13:25] » Correct.
[2:13:28] » And and that would get to be a very
sticky situation. But but I think
[2:13:33] providing assistance to to really take a
look at it and in an objective
[2:13:40] manner to say how can we fix this?
What's it going to take? Because right
[2:13:46] now we have a big black machine that's
cranking out product, right?
[2:13:51] Animals.
We have an obligation to take care of
[2:13:56] those products.
[2:14:00] you have an obligation
to take care of those.
[2:14:05] How do we do that effectively
and with fiscal responsibility?
[2:14:10] And if we can look at that with a very
tight-knit group of stakeholders, I
[2:14:16] think that that would provide
enormous benefit to both parties.
[2:14:23] » Good point.
>> I would I would agree
[2:14:25] » and I would I'm sorry. I would
>> hold on. Let's
[2:14:29] » like to revisit it in 6 months to see
the progress of that. I
[2:14:32] » think it could be good. Mr. Slack,
I'm so glad that you have stepped up
[2:14:38] been a part of the PAUSE board for the
last what is it two years now? Three.
[2:14:42] » Three.
>> And you're the chair currently.
[2:14:45] » Director,
>> director, not the ch I Yes.
[2:14:50] I appreciate you.
>> Oh, thank you.
[2:14:51] » Anything that you have to add? I I would
say I guess first off I agree
[2:14:56] wholeheartedly with uh Councilman Bailey
and Councilman Carr in the sense of I
[2:15:01] don't think that the city should be
overseeing pause, but I also think if
[2:15:06] you're open to assistance such as that
that Councilwoman Johnson is offering, I
[2:15:12] think it sounds like a helpful thing.
The other thing I would say too, and I'm
[2:15:17] sorry I interrupted you. Last thing.
>> Okay. The other thing I would say too is
[2:15:22] if you're open to being a part of
something that we would be discussing
[2:15:26] the city's issue, which is dogs at large
and empoundment and that kind of thing
[2:15:31] and what are we going to do about them?
We'd love to have PAUSE be a part of
[2:15:34] that, but it doesn't have to be
something where the city is sitting
[2:15:37] there and saying pause must do X, Y, and
Z. It would be something where if PAS is
[2:15:43] able to reach a contract and we're able
to do something that'll work for both of
[2:15:46] us such that PA can be helping out with
this obligation that the city has figure
[2:15:51] out how we can do it. Anyway,
>> what do you have to add? I would add
[2:15:55] that I don't think that it benefits the
city or pause not to try and figure
[2:16:01] something out at all because like you
said I you pause this is we're going on
[2:16:06] 21 years I believe in 21 years ago when
pause started maybe these things weren't
[2:16:13] so hard each year as we all know life
gets harder I don't know why but it gets
[2:16:19] harder and I I think I believe some of
when it's It's like rolling a rock down
[2:16:25] a hill. It starts picking up momentum,
right? Whether good or bad, it's going
[2:16:30] with going back 21 years.
One little item got skipped, one got
[2:16:37] skipped on our taxes. Uh, and that it
just is a problem because as a as a we
[2:16:43] don't get paid. We we volunteer. We try
to do our best. Um, and yes, I I will
[2:16:50] take full responsibility. my my
signatures on most on all these papers
[2:16:54] at the top that says
yes is correct. I can't even figure out
[2:16:59] my own taxes. I have to have somebody
else do it. That's not that's not in my
[2:17:05] my real my wheelhouse. I I I just my
brain does not work that way. So unless
[2:17:11] there was an accountant that said, you
know what, I retired. I have a lot of
[2:17:15] time. I'll be on the board. I'll do your
I'll do your accounting, your taxes. We
[2:17:20] don't have that. Then here we are. Then
we start looking at, are they going to
[2:17:23] charge us $1,000 a month? Is it $2,000 a
month? And then you add that for the
[2:17:28] whole year. Meanwhile, we're still
sticking fingers in the holes that are
[2:17:31] leaking all over the place. I mean, it
just seems
[2:17:35] that we're just not able to catch up, if
that makes sense. And I don't even mean
[2:17:40] just mean money-wise. I I just mean in
general. It it just snowballs to such an
[2:17:46] extent. Then we're all behind and then
some people get burned out. I I'm I need
[2:17:51] to be off the board. Then we get
somebody else try to get them to motion
[2:17:55] and then it it just keeps on being that
cycle because we don't know how it got
[2:17:59] there, but it's been there.
No one said anything and then here we
[2:18:03] are.
>> Yeah.
[2:18:05] » Not knowing what the heck anybody's
doing.
[2:18:07] » So, if we were to do a committee, what
would you recommend in terms of you're
[2:18:12] you're saying you'd want to have
somebody who would be there from the
[2:18:15] pause board?
>> Ashley volunteered for that. I did not
[2:18:19] volunteer her for it. She asked to be
part of that. That was the email that I
[2:18:24] sent.
>> I I remember
[2:18:26] » you could have volunteered too, but
>> I I could have, but you know, I I didn't
[2:18:30] really think about it until
>> You're fine, Lonnie.
[2:18:32] » In fact, but if you want two people from
P, I I will I can too. I mean, we can
[2:18:39] figure it out. But Ashley specifically
set out and said if we'd enter this with
[2:18:44] the city, I would like to be there. Who
else would you think would be good to
[2:18:48] serve on that? Because I would be
inclined to say it would be good to have
[2:18:52] Carla Borders, but she's also been she's
going through a lot right now and has
[2:18:57] some things going on. Not trying to be
like
[2:19:01] sounding weird, but she's got like a I
I'm I'm not gonna She's got some things
[2:19:06] going on. Everything's okay, but she's
got a busy summer ahead of her, so I
[2:19:11] don't want to kind of volunteer for
that. She already serves as the pause
[2:19:14] liaison, but
>> I don't mind though, your honor.
[2:19:17] » I I know you don't. But you also serve
on like just about more committees than
[2:19:21] anyone else.
>> But pause is my
[2:19:25] » mainly what I've been their leaison for
a long time.
[2:19:29] » It might be good to get some people from
some other animal welfare associations
[2:19:33] or something like that. We just met one
today and Larry Wallace. Um, so the
[2:19:39] other thing we could do is we could just
do an advertisement for it and have some
[2:19:42] people step up and be willing to
volunteer kind of in light of what
[2:19:47] you're saying. Maybe there will be an
accountant that's retired and to say,
[2:19:50] "Hey, not that we're looking for
accountants with what we're doing. This
[2:19:54] is something where we're wanting to look
at solutions for
[2:19:57] » population issues that we're facing, not
necessarily looking at it. I I feel very
[2:20:03] positive about what's going to happen
tomorrow.
[2:20:07] » Good.
>> Because I'm making it my mission to
[2:20:09] figure this out because
it needs help.
[2:20:12] » Good. I'm glad you're there then. You're
the right person at the right time.
[2:20:16] » Yes.
>> Councilman Bailey. Your honor, I think
[2:20:18] we need to have a law enforcement,
animal control presence in that
[2:20:23] discussion, too, because a lot of what
we're going to be talking about, I
[2:20:27] think, is what they can or cannot do in
that scenario where they have to pick up
[2:20:33] animals and, you know, so I think that
would be another valuable uh stakeholder
[2:20:38] in that process.
>> So, law enforcement pause representative
[2:20:42] from the council could be helpful.
Veterinary services.
[2:20:46] » I'm sorry.
>> Veterinary services.
[2:20:47] » Veterinary services. That's always nice
to have.
[2:20:51] » It would be I think it'd be beneficial
for everybody if you have a little
[2:20:55] component of everything across there. Um
you know, there's uh a number of times
[2:21:00] I've been in um RPD, sat with chief,
we've tried to figure some things out.
[2:21:05] Yes, we're full. We tried to make sure
that if somebody gets a DUI, you just
[2:21:10] can't leave their doggo in the car.
We've got to do something with that.
[2:21:13] Yes. And you can't. And then we've also
talked about um how vicious an animal
[2:21:18] can be before we can't take it at pause,
>> right?
[2:21:21] » You know, and um I I know that kind of
came up a few times and Mr. Butterfield
[2:21:26] kind of told me I wasn't supposed to
talk about things like that because it
[2:21:29] kept coming up, but I don't know.
Ostriches get loose, horses get loose,
[2:21:33] cows come to town. They're not coming to
paws.
[2:21:36] » You guys aren't taking cows or
ostriches.
[2:21:38] » No. No. We're going to we're just going
to stick with dogs and cats. We got a
[2:21:42] big box of snakes, too. But
>> yeah, we don't need
[2:21:46] I'm not a reptile fan. I really love
critters, but not really.
[2:21:49] » So, a representative from the council,
perhaps, somebody from more veterinary
[2:21:53] services, representative from PAUSE,
representative from the RPD, likely a
[2:21:58] representative from other local animal
kind of groups that are interested.
[2:22:04] The other question, I guess, though, is
do we just want to have this be
[2:22:06] advertised and let people apply and then
the council decides who we want to put
[2:22:10] on it?
maybe for an atlarge seat.
[2:22:15] » So maybe have some people apply for at
large seats.
[2:22:18] » So we would kind of go in with
veterinary pause RPD council and then
[2:22:22] » we just don't want it to get too big.
>> Have one or two done either.
[2:22:25] » The point is to have it be nimble, not
to have it be like 20 members,
[2:22:28] » right? Then we'll get nowhere.
>> Not more than 10.
[2:22:32] » Yeah.
>> I'd even say seven.
[2:22:34] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[2:22:35] » It's nice to have a smaller group
>> at least for initial discussion. And if
[2:22:41] we need to expand that, we could
>> could.
[2:22:43] » Mr. Butterfield's really good at making
resolutions, creating committees. He
[2:22:47] enjoys it. We also are really good at
making resolutions, disbanding
[2:22:51] committees when there's no longer a
need. We enjoy that, too. I mean,
[2:22:56] » so I this is an initial effort and
trying to figure out what we can do. And
[2:22:59] I think we just need to be willing to
look at it and consider it.
[2:23:04] » So
>> I would like to ask to keep it at an odd
[2:23:08] number. That's that's kind of where I
was saying so.
[2:23:10] » Okay. Yeah. Because if we get even and
we split, then it it it just
[2:23:15] » Well, then you got to whoever it is
that's been there the shortest amount of
[2:23:18] time, you got to just eliminate them.
So,
[2:23:20] » okay.
>> I thought you weren't going to go there.
[2:23:25] » Kick them off.
>> Like, are we doing
[2:23:28] » Everybody's making everything about
youth in Asia today.
[2:23:30] » Yes.
>> Um, okay. I think from my opinion it
[2:23:36] would make a lot of sense that we uh we
get a resolution together for this. I
[2:23:41] think to whatever extent that you're
willing to to serve Councilwoman
[2:23:46] Johnson, I think it'd be great.
>> I would I would like to continue serving
[2:23:49] in the the capacity with um Miss Solen
and our animal control officer on the
[2:23:55] board.
>> You and Miss Borders might have to have
[2:23:57] an arm rest or something.
>> Well, I we work just fine. she there.
[2:24:02] I've just delved knee deep into it and
>> I can always share the information with
[2:24:07] her as well if she's tied up,
>> you know, and and for pause for me
[2:24:14] working with RPD has not we've not had a
problem. I I don't
[2:24:20] I don't think we don't not dislike each
other. Uh not had a problem working with
[2:24:26] Shannon. Shannon is always very very
forthcoming with me and as much as I can
[2:24:30] try and be with her as well. So that
would be very helpful to keep that
[2:24:35] bridge.
>> Well, if we had a representative from
[2:24:37] RPD, I would think it would make sense
for it to be Shannon.
[2:24:41] You don't necessarily want her to
volunteer for things or volunteer.
[2:24:47] She's just remaining silent today.
>> Um Mr. Butterfield, I guess what I would
[2:24:53] say is probably what where we're at, at
least appears to be where the council's
[2:24:57] at, and we could have a motion and a
vote for it if we need to, is maybe come
[2:25:01] to our next meeting. Could you come with
the resolution that we could use and
[2:25:05] then give some thought as to who could
serve from those kind of areas,
[2:25:09] veterinary, pause, RPD, council, and
then uh have maybe two or three or one
[2:25:15] or two at large positions. And that make
sense?
[2:25:19] » Yes, your honor. Would you need a vote
for that today? Because he'd be coming
[2:25:22] with the proposal at the next meeting.
Okay.
[2:25:25] » Does that seem like that would help Mr.
Slack, Miss Sloan?
[2:25:28] » Yes. Okay.
>> I will have to say though, for the next
[2:25:32] three weeks, yeah,
>> I can't take any more time off.
[2:25:35] » We're coming into finals. I'm in class
Monday through Thursday evening. So, but
[2:25:40] you'll be in good hands.
>> It'll be at least that long.
[2:25:44] » It'll take It'll take that long to get
this in going anyway.
[2:25:47] » My brain.
>> That's all right.
[2:25:49] » Okay.
Okay. Well, if there's nothing else to
[2:25:53] talk about this, I'm just glad we're not
here at 11 o'clock right now.
[2:25:56] » You're welcome.
>> Yeah.
[2:26:01] » Johnson is like, I could have made it
worse.
[2:26:03] » I could have, but I didn't cuz I want I
want I want to
[2:26:07] » You put in a lot of hours prior to this
meeting.
[2:26:09] » I know you did.
>> I really did.
[2:26:11] » She told me that. And actually, uh,
Councilwoman Johnson and I put in some
[2:26:15] time talking to each other, too, so that
we could kind of be
[2:26:17] » we did
>> on the same page. And so
[2:26:20] » I just want to see positive solutions
all the way around.
[2:26:23] » Did you really just say that?
>> Positive solutions went there.
[2:26:27] » She has named the committee. It's the
positive solutions committee.
[2:26:32] » I hope that's reported on
>> Yeah.
[2:26:36] » accurately.
>> Accurately.
[2:26:38] » EWS.
Okay. Thank you very much for being here
[2:26:41] and thank you for all you do. Thank you
for your board members for being here.
[2:26:44] And
>> I hope you understand.
[2:26:47] I I don't Our goal is not to be dragging
you in front of us like you're some, you
[2:26:53] know, terrible organization that's
committing some terrible crimes or
[2:26:57] anything. Our goal is just to try to
figure out what we can do to come up
[2:27:00] with ways we can take care of animals in
our community. And you guys have done
[2:27:04] great for it for years.
>> Yeah, exactly. I mean, as a college
[2:27:07] professor, sometimes I have some really
serious, you better answer, better come
[2:27:12] up with some solution things to get you
through. It's not my aspect to make
[2:27:16] somebody flunk. Uh, you just sometimes
you have to use that, figure it out,
[2:27:21] pick everything up, and then move
forward in a better position.
[2:27:25] » Yeah. Well, thank you. Appreciate you
guys. All right. So, we don't have a
[2:27:29] vote or anything. Are we good going just
to our next agenda item?
[2:27:32] » Yep.
>> Thank you, Mr. Sack.
[2:27:34] » Thank you. Thank you, Miss Sloan.
>> Have a good evening, everybody.
[2:27:37] » You, too.
>> Thank you.
[2:27:40] » Okay. Our next item is an executive
session on real estate. I'd entertain a
[2:27:46] motion to convene into executive session
for the purpose of uh real estate.
[2:27:51] It's Wyoming statute 164405A7.
>> So moved. Second.
[2:27:57] » Motion by Councilman Bailey, second by
Councilman Carr. Any other discussion?
[2:28:02] Uh we would invite Mr. Mr. Butterfield.
Anybody else that needs to come in with
[2:28:06] us? Okay, we'd invite Mr. Butterfield to
come in with us. All in favor say I.
[2:28:11] » I. I.
>> Any oppose say nay. Motion passed. Stand
[2:28:15] convene into executive session at 9:41.
[2:28:24] » Councilman Carr with the motion.
Councilwoman Brothers with the second.
[2:28:27] All in favor say I.
>> That was
[2:28:29] » brothers Johnson.
>> I was looking at you, Councilwoman. Man,
[2:28:33] why do we keep getting misqued?
>> All in favor say I. Any oppos say nay.
[2:28:39] » Motion passed. We're reconvened at
10:25. All action items from the
[2:28:43] executive session. I'd entertain a
motion to adjourn.
[2:28:46] » So moved.
>> Councilwoman Brothers with the motion.
[2:28:52] Councilwoman
Johnson with the second or borders. All
[2:28:57] in favor say I.
>> I.
[2:28:59] » Any oppose say nay. Vote I. Motion
passes. We are adjourned at 10:26.