[0:00] Where's Where's the beer with the
snacks?
[0:02] » What's that?
>> Beer.
[0:10] » We're ready.
>> All right. Good evening everyone.
[0:14] Welcome board members to the planning
and zoning board, August 28th, 2025. The
[0:19] time is approximately 6:32 p.m.
If anyone wants to speak on agenda item,
[0:25] please complete the public comment card
and give it to the planning and zoning
[0:29] um staff prior to the board discussing
the public um and before the public
[0:33] comment section is announced. In no
event will anyone be allowed to submit a
[0:37] comment card to speak on agenda item
after the item after the title of the
[0:41] item is read or considered. The total
time allotted for each member of the
[0:46] public to comment on each item is three
minutes.
[0:54] Let's start off with a moment of
silence.
[1:01] And the board will lead with the pledge
of allegiance.
[1:07] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[1:12] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:17] justice for all.
[1:24] » All right. Can we have a roll call,
please?
[1:29] » Board member Brown,
>> present.
[1:32] » Board member Gallon
>> here.
[1:34] » Board member Burgess
>> here.
[1:37] » Board member Joseph here. Board member
Shepard here. Vice Chair Fernandez
[1:43] » here.
>> Chair Wally
[1:44] » present.
>> We have a quorum. Chair,
[1:49] » we have an acknowledgement of any board
member absent notification.
[1:54] » No sir, chair.
>> An acknowledgement of board member
[1:57] vacant position.
The vacant position share that we have
[2:03] is for the alternate district 2, the
alternate district 4 and and and the
[2:10] board board member district five. And
with that, chair, the alternate Miss
[2:16] Lucy Joseph will have voting rights for
tonight.
[2:21] » Well, thank you. On to number three. Any
additions or deletions to the agenda?
[2:29] Any disclosures by board members?
[2:37] Any motion for adoption of the agenda?
>> A motion to the adopt the agenda as
[2:43] provided.
>> Second.
[2:46] It has been properly moved and second.
Chair ready for the vote.
[2:49] » Yes.
>> Board member Joseph.
[2:52] » Yes.
>> Board member Burgess.
[2:54] » Yes. Board member Shepard.
>> Yes.
[2:57] » Vice Chair Fernandez. Yes.
>> Chair W.
[3:00] » Yes.
>> Unanimous vote. Chair.
[3:02] » Right. On to approval of minutes.
>> There are no minutes. Correct. Miss
[3:06] weather.
>> Correct.
[3:11] » On to unfinished business.
[3:17] » Thank you. On to new business.
An ordinance of the city council of the
[3:22] city of River Beach, Palm Beach County,
Florida, approving a city initiated code
[3:27] of ordinance amendment amending city
code of ordinance chapter 32 art and
[3:32] public places program
amending section 32-2
[3:38] definition adding
and or amending definition of artwork of
[3:44] art or artwork a local artist
[3:51] maintenance with the respect to artwork.
Maintenance with the respect to the
[3:55] property maintenance mural public art
collections
[4:00] public art master plan project
renovations temporary artwork amending
[4:06] section 32-4
public artwork advisory board creations
[4:11] and compositions amending section 32-5
public art
[4:16] Advisory board powers duties and
functions amending section 32-7
[4:23] establishment of public art fee amending
chapter 32-9
[4:28] art and public places requirements
adding section 32-12
[4:33] adopting the master plan by referencing
creation section 32-13
[4:40] adding art and public places program
policies and procedures policies and
[4:45] procedures procedures providing for
accurability conflict ser circability
[4:51] codification and providing for an
effective date. The presenter will be
[4:55] principal planner Sen Simon.
[5:02] Good evening chair. Good evening members
of the planning and zoning board. Um
[5:07] it's been a while so it's wonderful to
see you all tonight. Um, as our long
[5:12] header told you, tonight we will be
adopting amendments to chapter 32 um, in
[5:17] order for us to adopt a master plan that
was presented to you all um, a couple
[5:22] meetings ago. Before we do that, I'm
going to give a little bit background
[5:26] just to kind of catch us up. Um, in
January of 2024, we the city council
[5:32] adopted ordinance 4245 that established
chapter 32, which was the arts and
[5:37] public places. Um and then from there,
one of the key components that were
[5:41] found inside of that ordinance was that
we were supposed to have a master plan
[5:45] um developed in order for us to actually
acquire art in the city in order and
[5:51] also to identify where to put this art
and how to do all of this, right? So it
[5:56] was a bit of like how do we do this? So
this master plan is supposed to instruct
[5:59] us to do this. So what we So the city
council um commissioned designing local
[6:04] Ltd in order to lead this development.
God bless you. in order to lead this
[6:09] development um of the master plan. So
tonight we'll talk about what um we'll
[6:14] talk a little bit more about that master
plan, but a proposed master plan is now
[6:18] created and we did this utilizing our
community members to envision um how
[6:24] they would see art here in our city. So,
it's been drafted and what's been
[6:28] drafted along with this are amendments
to that ordinance 4245
[6:33] in order to align with our master plan,
in order to actually implement the
[6:38] master plan.
So, tonight we'll be talking about those
[6:42] modifications to ordinance 40 um or
4245. And so, the proposed new ordinance
[6:48] is ordinance number 4283.
[6:53] Some of the modifications begin with our
definition section. In our definition
[6:57] section, we're modifying the definition
of art, work of art, and artwork. What
[7:02] we're doing is removing the word
tangible that is in there and replacing
[7:06] it with original creations.
In addition, there's a list of items
[7:11] that are not considered art. We're
trying to say this is not considered art
[7:14] for us. Um, and we clarify what that
looks like.
[7:19] We're also adding missing definitions.
Some of those missing definitions that
[7:23] we didn't have in our first ordinance
was what's a local artist. We didn't
[7:28] have maintenance with respect to artwork
as well as maintenance when we're
[7:31] talking about maintenance of the
property that has the artwork. So, we
[7:35] add those in there. We also were missing
the word the definition for murals. Even
[7:41] though we talk about murals in our in
our city knows about has murals and we
[7:45] know about murals, we didn't have a
definition for that. Um, we're also
[7:48] missing public art collection as well as
temporary artwork. What is that
[7:52] considered?
In our new um or in our in our proposed
[7:58] language, we also clarify the definition
of the public art master plan. We talk
[8:02] about we talk a little bit more about
what do we consider the master plan.
[8:08] We clarify the definitions of project.
What is a project? And then we add the
[8:13] term unit because we were talking about
residential development but really we
[8:18] were trying to say it's a propo it's a
um planned residential unit development
[8:22] when we talk about our puds.
So that was a scrivener's error on our
[8:26] apartment which we correct and then we
clarified the definition for renovation.
[8:34] [Music]
[8:44] Further along in our in our um proposal,
we also and this is in section 324, we
[8:50] clarify that public the public art
board's time commitment. Um we have we
[8:56] add a time commitment for that and how
they participate a little bit more. And
[9:00] then we also update their duties in
order for it to align with having these
[9:05] different art activities and and adding
the community into this. It was missing
[9:10] language on their role in doing that.
And so they wanted to add that in there
[9:14] as well. Um for clarity purposes, we
modified the term budget. We had the
[9:19] word budget in there, but yet everywhere
else we were saying construction costs,
[9:23] which is uh a m which is a pretty big
difference when it comes costwise. So to
[9:27] not burden our developers, we we have
the word construction cost there for
[9:31] clarity as to what it is that we are
taking that 1% from. We also clarify the
[9:36] options um the options that our
participants have where we're adding as
[9:41] defined in this chapter so that way
everybody knows we're just talking about
[9:45] this particular chapter.
We add language in there um that
[9:49] clarifies how they participate um
especially those that are doing big
[9:53] developments that come in different
phases. How are you supposed to pay the
[9:57] fee with this? Are we doing it in
sections or are we doing it one time?
[10:00] And ours would clarify and say yes,
you'll be paying that at one time. Um,
[10:05] and we also removed section 3282B3
which was a very muddled. It was a lot
[10:11] of words and whereas and it was I think
you kind of scratched your head when you
[10:13] read it. And so we make the language
clearer in order for everyone who is
[10:18] participating understands how to do just
that.
[10:22] Other
modifications include um
[10:28] we had a section where in in a in a
sense it was it did have a lot of words.
[10:33] It's like you can give us these but they
seem very they seem very um theoretical
[10:38] and so we we clarified that language and
that language is coming in 37 327. And
[10:44] then we added sections 3212 which is the
actual adoption of the master plan. And
[10:50] we added another section which is the
guidelines. It's the policies for the
[10:54] board to utilize of how they're supposed
to do the call for artists, how they're
[11:00] supposed to um evaluate. This gives them
more direction so that way they
[11:05] understand their role as board members.
And those are the adoptions and those
[11:09] are the modifications that we've made to
chapter 32. the recommendation that we
[11:14] have as a staff um after working with
designing local which was a very great
[11:19] experience for our team. Um after
working within our community to hear
[11:23] where people thought about where they
wanted to go, the type of art that they
[11:26] want to see in the city. Um our staff
recommends approval or we're
[11:31] recommending that you all ask city
council um that you recommend to city
[11:36] council the approval of ordinance number
4283.
[11:41] Any questions?
[11:48] Quick question for you.
>> Yes, sir.
[11:49] » On 7A, we just had the chapter 32 and
and subsections.
[11:54] » So, is this another one that we're going
to uh split it up separately? Do the
[11:59] when we do vote on it?
>> Okay.
[12:01] » 7A covers only chapter 32 doesn't have
anything about approval of ordinance
[12:07] 4283.
Do you want us to do it separate when we
[12:10] do get to that stage approving uh
chapter 32 and these subsections?
[12:15] » Chapter 32 and maybe I'm
misunderstanding but this is the
[12:20] amendment to chapter
>> approval of ordinance board 283.
[12:23] » Okay. Correct.
>> Okay. 7A we're talking about chapter 32
[12:28] and the subsection.
>> So if I may, Mr. Chair, I think you're
[12:31] actually talking about the same thing.
So the ordinance number is really for
[12:36] tracking purposes for the clerk, but the
references to chapter 32 are to the
[12:41] references to chapter 2 of the the code
the way that it's codified currently. So
[12:47] um it's it's the same thing. It's
incorporated.
[12:50] » So in other words, we're not
recommending approval of ordinance
[12:54] because once we approve chapter 32 and
the subsections, it'll incorporate 4283.
[13:00] So the the motion would be a a motion to
recommend approval of ordinance number
[13:04] 4283
which would have the effect of amending
[13:10] the city code at chapter 32.
>> Thank you.
[13:15] » And I can fix that language for us to
say the same thing.
[13:27] » You guys are a little quiet tonight.
Wow.
[13:31] Pretty straightforward.
[13:35] » Okay.
[13:40] Okay. I thought you I still thought you
still a little bit more. Um any
[13:44] questions by the board?
[13:48] » All right. Um I see we have a uh someone
in attendance. Do we have any comment
[13:53] cards?
>> No, sir. Chair Mr. I love
[14:00] » we have a guest in the audience.
>> Yes, I see that.
[14:02] » I feel like he has a
[Applause]
[14:06] » she's our protector. Okay.
[14:14] » All right. Are we sure we don't have any
questions by the board for this item?
[14:19] Because it seems like it's a great idea.
>> Just a comment.
[14:22] » Yes, ma'am. Um, you know, thank you to
you, the board that have put time into
[14:27] or the art the public art board and
staff um that put the time into putting
[14:33] this plan together and looking forward
to seeing the work that comes out of it.
[14:36] » We're excited. We're excited.
>> Beautiful. The picture absolutely
[14:42] beautiful.
>> Only thing I didn't see my picture in
[14:45] here, so I'm
for it hard. I fought for it hard. Now,
[14:51] I was in the first set, I think, when we
were at Thanks, baby. So,
[14:55] » I've been in there.
>> Yes.
[14:56] » But they are they're absolutely
beautiful.
[14:59] » Thank you. They're they're very nice.
Well articulated.
[15:02] » We really had a a great a great
consulting team and our staff has been
[15:07] helping in so many ways, even if they
didn't want to at times, but they've
[15:10] been amazing at um getting us to this
place and our and our board advisory
[15:15] board has been working hard as well. So,
we thank you all. Before I forget, when
[15:19] we get into the section of the pricing
for this art, the planning and zoning
[15:24] board would like to submit uh a bench.
We only charge 28,000.
[15:29] » That's not bad. That's not bad.
>> We accept the cash.
[15:35] » 25,00
[15:39] clarify that was a joke for the record.
[15:44] » Chair, I do have one question.
>> Yes.
[15:46] » Yes. Um, do you guys currently have a
public art coordinator?
[15:51] » Are we going to have one?
>> It's in the policy. Do you have one
[15:55] currently?
>> We do not have one currently.
[15:59] » It's one It's part of the
recommendations um to have one.
[16:02] » Okay.
>> But you do have a board, correct?
[16:07] » Okay. I remember that.
>> Correct.
[16:09] » I have a question real quick. Um,
and I know I was looking through. Do we
[16:15] do we have any I guess um any ideas or
or pictures that that what we are trying
[16:24] what kind of pictures that we are trying
to um exhibit? Is it more cultural? Is
[16:30] it more um
seaorthy or you know fishes and all kind
[16:36] of stuff like that or or what kind of
items is it that we're that um we're
[16:40] actually approving? So, right now our
plan talks about like the feeling and um
[16:46] the types of things that we'd like to
see, but we don't have an idea of what
[16:49] those are exactly. That would be the
artistes that actually would that
[16:54] respond to our call to art. And then
from there, we'd be able to go, okay,
[16:59] this this goes based off our checklist
that is given within because art is it
[17:06] varies, right? And so at this moment
based off of what we're trying to do
[17:10] when the artists respond then we see if
it hits our checklist of what we
[17:14] consider art and um what we're trying to
evaluate and then from there we know
[17:20] what it really looks like. But today I
couldn't tell you we're going based off
[17:24] of
this idea. Um we can but we can only
[17:29] talk about um does it connect because
right now the idea is connecting. So
[17:34] connecting neighbors, um connecting art
to health, connecting as that's the
[17:38] theme that we're going with is
connecting our community.
[17:42] » So is are we are we going behind another
city or another county in far as the
[17:47] design we got? Are we trying to um I
don't know. I know Miami has a lot of
[17:51] nice things down there, but are we going
behind another uh company far as trying
[17:56] to look a certain way or we have an idea
where
[18:00] » Riviera Beach? We are looking like
Riviera Beach. So it it'll be what
[18:04] accentuates our community. So during the
surveying process, some of the questions
[18:09] were one, how do you see our city,
right? And two, how do you want to see
[18:13] our city? So our master plan revolves
around that. How does our community want
[18:18] to see us? So we're not going to look
like Miami and we're not going to look
[18:21] like West Palm Beach. The hopes is that
we're going to look like the collective
[18:25] ideas that our community has brought
forward to say this is what Riviera
[18:29] Beach. And it was pretty special because
a lot of people talk that this is home.
[18:33] Like this is it's a feeling like
acquaintance in a bit of feeling like
[18:37] home, but at the same time we're we're
big girls and boys, right? Like we want
[18:41] to do so many big things. Um and so the
idea is that the art will capture those
[18:45] feelings um into that and at the same
time art that connects us with our
[18:50] neighbors and art that connects us with
our environment.
[18:54] » So it it'll look different. It'll look
like Riviera Beach is our is our hope.
[19:01] Chair.
>> Yes.
[19:02] » One more question. Um Sen.
>> Yes ma'am.
[19:05] » So when there's art work that will be
purchased or you know things that the
[19:11] city wants to do, what is the process
like? It goes through the board first
[19:17] through the arts board and then they
make their recommendations to go to the
[19:21] city council for a final.
>> That's correct.
[19:24] » Okay.
>> That is correct.
[19:27] So, and our idea is that we have
professionals,
[19:32] well, let me experts within different
art fields that will be able to do help
[19:37] with that determination and to define
art and then for them to give their
[19:42] recommendations to our council members.
>> Thank you,
[19:48] » the maintenance and the upkeep of the
grounds around our actual art, who's
[19:54] going to handle that? So if this is art
that is on a per on the owner's
[19:58] property, the owner worries about it.
And if it's art on our own property, we
[20:03] will do that. Part of the evaluation
process of un of saying yes, this is the
[20:08] art we're going to choose. We have to
make sure it's maintenance that we're
[20:10] able to keep up with. At the same time,
>> so we won't select something that's too
[20:16] egregious for our team and and so and
that's not too expensive for our team to
[20:20] be able to keep up with. The artist will
come up with a rendering of what may be
[20:25] appropriate and then the board will vote
on that.
[20:28] » Correct.
[20:31] » Great questions you guys.
[20:36] » Any other questions by the board?
[20:41] » Who would like to make a motion?
>> I have questions. We gonna be here.
[20:47] » Yes. Question.
>> Um, all right. Last question. What's the
[20:51] timeline? Is the Is the goal to get a
coordinator in place first, then to
[20:55] start implementing what we have in the
plan, or
[20:59] » We're hoping to We're hoping to go
before city council in October.
[21:03] » Okay. October,
>> the next one.
[21:06] » Oh, we go in September for our first
reading and hoping for adoption hearing.
[21:10] We hope aspire to have that in October.
And then um we also we already have
[21:17] construction of other buildings here in
the city and so we'd like to begin soon
[21:21] um for our first one.
>> Thank you chair.
[21:26] » What what is the chance of the planning
and zoning board being some of the
[21:30] deciding members of what goes where
>> of what goes where?
[21:34] » Yeah. Of what it looks like or where it
goes and what goes where. Cuz we would
[21:39] definitely like to see it before.
>> So you'll see some things. Um so after
[21:45] our re the recommendation is made um
from our board especially when it comes
[21:50] to site plan when they're reviewing site
plans you'll see things come your way in
[21:55] order to be reviewed before they go to
city council.
[21:57] » So we'll come back for our review to be
able to see it before it goes to city
[22:01] council. Oh awesome. Awesome.
>> Yeah. Awesome.
[22:05] » Mr. Chair.
>> Yeah.
[22:06] » I think on last is it last night? I
think it was last night they showed an
[22:11] artwork. I think um uh with the fish and
you know where I don't know where it's
[22:17] going to go.
>> The gateways
[22:19] » is that will that be the one for the
gate? Is that considered art?
[22:23] » I mean it's art.
>> It's art. So have you figured out where
[22:28] that's going? I can't remember where
they say that.
[22:30] » I believe those are gateways that you're
referring to like the one that they said
[22:34] they're going to be at different
entrances in the city.
[22:36] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[22:37] » That's not with our board. um in our
master plan we identify having g at
[22:42] gateways so it's great somebody's going
to do it um but that's um currently that
[22:49] we haven't had conversations about that
yet
[22:52] » so I wouldn't know
>> okay
[22:55] » thank you thank you Mr. Chair
>> chair.
[22:59] » Yes.
>> I move um like to make a motion to
[23:03] approve an ordinance of the city council
for ordinance
[23:09] 4283
arts and public places.
[23:17] » Have a second.
>> Second.
[23:23] » Cherry has been properly moved and
second. Are we ready for the vote?
[23:26] » Yes.
>> Board member Shepard?
[23:29] » Yes.
>> Board member Joseph?
[23:31] » Yes.
>> Board member Burgess?
[23:33] » Yes.
>> Vice Chair Fernandez?
[23:35] » Yes.
>> Chair Wy?
[23:37] » Yes.
>> Unanimous vote. Chair.
[23:42] » Thank you very much. Thank you everyone.
Great questions.
[23:48] » Oh, great presentation. Just just for
the record, do we have to include the
[23:52] language that also it included the
approval of ordinance 4283?
[23:59] » I believe the motion referenced um
ordinance 4283.
[24:03] So I think I think you're good there.
And for clarification of the record,
[24:07] ordinance number 4283 as proposed and
drafted by staff includes the discussed
[24:14] um changes to chapter 32 of the code.
It does include it. Got it.
[24:20] » Just want to make sure. Um, let's move
on to item eight. Then we have workshop
[24:24] items.
>> Workshop.
[24:29] » Any public comments?
>> No sir, Mr. Chair.
[24:34] » Let's move on to general discussion.
Staff updates.
[24:38] We we have no
[24:42] » any board correspondents.
[24:47] » No, sir. Chair.
>> All right. I have a uh comment real
[24:50] quick. I know we want to get out of
here. We want to make sure I know myself
[24:53] and the vice chair was talking a little
earlier about um you know making
[24:58] beautifying the city is definitely one
thing that we want to do cuz we all
[25:01] about progress in the city and
everything but I definitely want to make
[25:04] sure that um when the next opportunity
comes along and this is I guess directed
[25:09] towards uh city council that the next
time something comes along with
[25:13] education given the amount of money that
we're spending here now we should not
[25:18] have any um dispute about education in
our community because a lot of our
[25:23] schools and stu students that are here
and everyone knows I'm a school teacher
[25:27] that we need to invest into our city
also far as education along with
[25:31] beautifying it. We also need to make
sure we're educating it also at the same
[25:34] time. So when it's time for the money to
come in to approve these items as sure
[25:39] as we want to make sure our city is
beautiful. We definitely want to make
[25:41] sure that we're educating our city at
the same time. That's all I have. Does
[25:46] anybody else?
>> I do. here.
[25:49] I just wanted to know from uh staff if
is there an update on the items that I
[25:56] requested probably about two meetings
ago. Um things that the city could do in
[26:01] order to help its residents. We are
coming close uh to property tax season
[26:08] and I do know last week the Palm Beach
County Property Appraiser sent out the
[26:14] trim notice to all property owners. So
I'm just wondering is there any update
[26:20] on the the numerous items uh
recommendations I provided?
[26:27] » Yes,
>> we don't have an update this evening but
[26:30] perhaps the next meeting.
[26:44] » All right. Thank you.
Yes.
[26:48] » Um, Mr. Evans, if Mr. Serbs also recalls
the little the amendments that we added
[26:55] to the contractors 6 months after the CO
after their CO, they provide us with the
[27:01] hiring
vendors to see what representation
[27:06] beach. I am sure by now we've had
several projects to include Berkeley
[27:10] Landing that have already received their
CEO. Just don't forget to update us on
[27:15] the project. and the list the contractor
was supposed to provide. So the board
[27:20] can see exactly what who they hired
vendors to ensure that our Riviera Beach
[27:27] citizens
have a sheriff in the development
[27:33] profits.
>> Chair.
[27:36] » Yes.
>> Question um as a followup to um that
[27:40] comment. Is that a condition to get in
CO that they provide that information
[27:45] before or after or
>> was a condition of the develop?
[28:05] » Well, some of them have been finished
this close to six months. Just don't
[28:08] forget just add it.
>> So it's a condition to get the CO or is
[28:12] it a condition?
>> When they come up when the developer
[28:14] came up here, we added that as a
condition to the approval.
[28:17] » Okay.
>> That they provided with a list
[28:20] » after CO
>> after six months after the C.
[28:22] » Okay. Got it.
>> We come back to our team developmental
[28:26] services and then they report back to
the planning and zoning board. The
[28:29] development you approved X.
>> This is their report. uh who who who
[28:34] they hired, where they're from, and the
vendors so that we get an idea that they
[28:41] said they were going to hire Riviera
Beach residents and
[28:44] » the vendors the same to give our
citizens
[28:47] a little piece of the pie per se. Um and
then we just want to see is that are
[28:52] they doing what what they said they
would do.
[28:56] » Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Thank you,
>> Mr. Chair.
[28:59] » Yes.
>> May I ask one question? I passed by um
[29:04] 11th Street right off of uh 13th Street
and I saw um
[29:11] Mr. Ezra Setfold
sign on the
[29:20] What is that? Because it did did it come
before planning and zoning? Maybe I was
[29:24] out that week. I'm not sure. But I'm
trying to find out how did he get that
[29:30] project? What was the process? Because
it didn't come through planning and
[29:35] zoning. I mean, I never heard I was
shocked. I had to stop and go back and
[29:39] and I love Ezra, don't don't get me
wrong, but how did he acquire this
[29:43] project with it not been vetted out
between planning and zoning?
[29:49] » Yes,
>> that's the Bill project.
[29:53] » That's the what?
>> The CRA's Bill of LA project.
[29:57] » Okay.
So that's um the town home project
[30:02] in the first phase um and they have
started construction.
[30:06] » Okay.
>> And that went before the planning
[30:09] building in 2024.
>> Okay.
[30:15] » Okay. Okay. So did they send out a RFP
or whatever to get um
[30:22] builders? How how did he acquire that? I
I don't remember. How did he how did he
[30:26] acquire that or did other people have a
chance to bid on that or was it just
[30:32] given to him? How how did that go?
>> I believe what they did
[30:38] » a public bid where the plan and then
contractors provide a bid. But I I
[30:47] couldn't say for sure cuz um
but I believe they did a a a bid uh for
[30:54] construction.
>> It was a bid for the construction. Yes.
[30:58] » How many people bidded for that project?
>> I'm afraid I I wouldn't have that
[31:03] information. I don't know.
>> You don't have the information?
[31:08] » No, that because it's the CRA's project.
>> I have to go to the CRA and ask us ask
[31:14] this.
That's just okay. I I just passed by
[31:18] that day and I Well, I remember the
whatever it is uh because it did come
[31:24] through. Um I think we did. Didn't we
talk about that project? I think we did
[31:29] not look like it was not too long ago we
tal talked about it and already they
[31:34] have the thing draped around ready to
go. I mean it was just that quick.
[31:39] » Yeah. I think it was maybe seven or
eight months ago that they went through
[31:43] the approval process.
It's been that long.
[31:48] Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
>> Huh?
[31:52] » Time flies when you're having fun.
>> Yeah.
[31:54] » Yeah.
>> Mr. Evans, one more question. Mr. Evans,
[31:57] what is the possibility of us getting um
someone from code enforcement to come
[32:01] into one of our meetings?
What's up with that?
[32:05] » If we have a special if the board would
like a presentation or an update on the
[32:11] activities of code enforcement, we could
schedule that for a future meeting.
[32:14] » Right. I would because I would like to
have a I have a lot of questions about
[32:18] some items that um we discussed before
and I know the city is probably tired of
[32:23] um us talking about it, but we have um I
know a lot of parking issues on some of
[32:27] our main roads where there's a lot of
parking on the side of the main roads
[32:33] which pretty much is deemed I I feel is
deemed unsafe. I mean during the time I
[32:37] managed FedEx, this was something that
was almost um was was not it was not
[32:43] acceptable. So, I wanted to be able to
be able to talk to code enforcement and
[32:47] kind of give a clear uh definition of
what we can and what we can't do and
[32:52] what's enforceable and what's not
enforceable so we can understand it. Cuz
[32:55] I know I get frustrated a lot in my
neighborhood by seeing certain things
[32:59] being done and watching the dangers that
it presents and then nothing's being
[33:03] done about it cuz sooner or later
something's going to happen and when it
[33:07] does happen I don't want the city to be
held liable for anything. Um, so the
[33:14] parking within the rightaway is actually
the police department, but we could ask
[33:19] for them to come and and present to the
board to to go through um the rules and
[33:25] how what what's allowed and and the
enforcement actions that they do take
[33:29] place to try and uh prevent misuse of
the rightway with vehicles.
[33:34] » Right, Mr. Devis? I definitely
appreciate that if you can do that
[33:39] cuz I'm pretty sure not only myself but
so other board members have questions
[33:42] and of course the public would like to
be cleared up on it also.
[33:48] » Mr. Chair.
>> Yes ma'am.
[33:50] » Just one more question. I know we're on
the time frame but may I say happy
[33:54] birthday to you Mr. Wy.
>> Y happy birthday. a very very very fine
[34:01] young man, a very brilliant teacher and
his mother who is my one of my mentors.
[34:07] I know she would be very very happy that
she raised a fine young man and I want
[34:12] to say thank you for being the chair.
You have exemplified you were a little
[34:16] nervous at first and I had to kick you
into the bucket and you're you're just
[34:21] doing an excellent job, sir.
>> Thank you, ma'am.
[34:24] » And I want to say thank you, Miss Mr.
Fernandez. He's a wiz at it, so I don't
[34:27] have to say thank you to him at all.
>> I got a great evening.
[34:32] » Absolutely.
>> And you're a great person. And we thank
[34:35] » We thank you. We thank you for just just
standing up for the challenge. I'm very
[34:39] proud of you. And may I say happy
birthday. Happy birthday again.
[34:43] » Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you.
>> One thing I can say that these birthdays
[34:47] now when you get on the other side of
the hill, they they're going too fast
[34:50] now. They're coming too fast. Like I
just yesterday was my birthday the other
[34:55] day. off too much.
>> Want a motion to slow down?
[34:58] » I want a motion. Someone make a motion
to slow down
[35:02] » every two or three years.
>> I second that motion.
[35:07] » All right. So, we see the upcoming
planning board meeting is September
[35:11] 11th, 2025. Correct.
>> Correct.
[35:14] » All right. And do we have a motion to
adjourn?
[35:16] » Motion 7:07 p.m. to adjourn the meeting.
>> So move.
[35:23] » Somebody going to second it so we can
call
[35:26] Good night.
>> Good night. See you tomorrow.