1 00:00:00,285 --> 00:00:00,755 Thank you. 2 00:00:01,135 --> 00:00:04,195 If you please rise if Abel for the Pledge of Allegiance. 3 00:00:07,175 --> 00:00:08,735 IP pledge Allegiance to the flag 4 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:10,695 of United The United States of America. 5 00:00:10,695 --> 00:00:13,535 America. And to the Republic for which it stands. 6 00:00:13,535 --> 00:00:17,095 Stands Nation, one Nation under God, indivisible. 7 00:00:17,095 --> 00:00:18,815 With Liberty. Liberty, and justice. All 8 00:00:19,945 --> 00:00:20,945 Thank you. 9 00:00:21,075 --> 00:00:24,615 The goal of the Board of County Road Commissioners of Count 10 00:00:24,635 --> 00:00:27,535 of Kalamazoo County is to apply its expertise, energy, 11 00:00:27,535 --> 00:00:29,255 and resources to provide the safest 12 00:00:29,255 --> 00:00:32,375 and most convenient road system possible while supporting 13 00:00:32,695 --> 00:00:34,375 economic development and enhancing quality 14 00:00:34,395 --> 00:00:35,415 of life throughout the county. 15 00:00:35,875 --> 00:00:38,535 We are committed to maintaining a road system that is safe, 16 00:00:38,855 --> 00:00:40,695 efficient, and reliable for public travel. 17 00:00:41,315 --> 00:00:44,335 The first item on the agenda is the approval of the agenda. 18 00:00:44,575 --> 00:00:45,735 A motion would be in order. 19 00:00:46,235 --> 00:00:47,895 Motion to approve. Second. 20 00:00:48,355 --> 00:00:50,735 We have a motion by Commissioner Davis with support 21 00:00:50,795 --> 00:00:52,695 to approve the agenda as presented. 22 00:00:52,695 --> 00:00:55,855 Is there any discussion on the agenda from the audience here 23 00:00:55,855 --> 00:00:58,755 in the building or 24 00:00:59,145 --> 00:01:02,835 line or commissioners? 25 00:01:05,675 --> 00:01:08,085 Hearing none. All in favor of approving the agenda 26 00:01:08,145 --> 00:01:09,365 as presented, say Aye. 27 00:01:09,985 --> 00:01:12,045 Aye. Those opposed say no. Motion carries. 28 00:01:12,355 --> 00:01:13,805 Next is the approval of the minutes 29 00:01:13,865 --> 00:01:15,645 of the August 11th board meeting. 30 00:01:15,805 --> 00:01:17,805 A motion would be in order. So 31 00:01:17,805 --> 00:01:18,805 Move counsel. 32 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:21,645 Is there Support. Support. 33 00:01:22,185 --> 00:01:24,325 We have a motion by Commissioner Thompson with support 34 00:01:24,325 --> 00:01:26,285 to approve the August 11th board meeting. 35 00:01:26,285 --> 00:01:28,285 Minutes. Is there any corrections, additions, 36 00:01:28,285 --> 00:01:30,765 or deletions of the minutes from the audience here in the 37 00:01:30,845 --> 00:01:34,515 building or 38 00:01:34,515 --> 00:01:38,025 online or commissioners? 39 00:01:38,215 --> 00:01:41,185 Corrections, additions, deletions. Hearing none. 40 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:43,825 All in favor of approving the August 11th board meeting. 41 00:01:43,825 --> 00:01:47,345 Minutes Say aye. Aye. Those opposed say no. Motion carries. 42 00:01:47,895 --> 00:01:50,505 Next is the approval of the payroll and vendor accounts. 43 00:01:50,505 --> 00:01:55,145 We have a payroll of $217,385 and 98 cents 44 00:01:55,485 --> 00:01:56,545 and vendor accounts of 45 00:01:56,545 --> 00:02:00,705 $1,713,105 and 30 cents. 46 00:02:00,865 --> 00:02:02,585 A motion would be in order. Some 47 00:02:02,585 --> 00:02:03,585 Moved. 48 00:02:04,245 --> 00:02:06,585 We have a motion by Commissioner Kennedy with support 49 00:02:06,645 --> 00:02:08,825 to approve the pay, payroll 50 00:02:09,005 --> 00:02:11,265 and vendor accounts as presented. 51 00:02:11,285 --> 00:02:12,625 Is there any discussion on the payroll 52 00:02:12,685 --> 00:02:14,705 and vendor accounts from the audience here in the building 53 00:02:15,565 --> 00:02:15,785 or 54 00:02:16,945 --> 00:02:21,015 online or commissioners? 55 00:02:21,335 --> 00:02:24,725 Questions? Comments? No. Hearing none. 56 00:02:24,785 --> 00:02:26,645 All in favor of a favor proving the payroll 57 00:02:26,705 --> 00:02:28,685 and vendor accounts as presented, say Aye. 58 00:02:29,265 --> 00:02:31,405 Aye. Those opposed say no. Motion carries. 59 00:02:31,915 --> 00:02:34,405 Next is public comment on non agenda items. 60 00:02:34,515 --> 00:02:35,965 This is an opportunity for the public 61 00:02:35,965 --> 00:02:37,805 to speak on non agenda items. 62 00:02:39,145 --> 00:02:41,725 Anyone here in the audience here in the building would like 63 00:02:41,725 --> 00:02:44,695 to speak or online? 64 00:02:44,915 --> 00:02:47,175 Anyone online willing Wishing 65 00:02:47,175 --> 00:02:48,495 to address the Road Commission. 66 00:02:52,195 --> 00:02:54,655 See none. There'll be a second opportunity later in the 67 00:02:54,655 --> 00:02:55,775 meeting for public. 68 00:02:55,775 --> 00:02:58,335 Comment on non agenda items that'll take us 69 00:02:58,335 --> 00:02:59,445 to new, new business. 70 00:02:59,815 --> 00:03:01,805 First item of business is item A. 71 00:03:01,825 --> 00:03:05,565 The request approval of bid 2026 dash oh nine. 72 00:03:06,065 --> 00:03:08,485 The new 2026. 2027. 73 00:03:08,905 --> 00:03:12,565 Police interceptor, rebid managing director. 74 00:03:13,345 --> 00:03:14,885 All right, A little background here. 75 00:03:14,905 --> 00:03:17,045 So outlined in our cap outlay section 76 00:03:17,065 --> 00:03:21,245 of our 2026 budget under our equipment facilities five-year 77 00:03:21,275 --> 00:03:22,525 plan is the replacement 78 00:03:23,025 --> 00:03:25,925 of a police interceptor interceptor vehicle. 79 00:03:26,395 --> 00:03:28,965 It's a vehicle we use daily for our our way master 80 00:03:29,145 --> 00:03:30,645 and permit agent type duties. 81 00:03:31,525 --> 00:03:34,445 Currently we have two of these police interceptor units 82 00:03:34,665 --> 00:03:35,725 for our permit agents. 83 00:03:36,265 --> 00:03:39,845 In the unit we are proposing to replace is a 2015 84 00:03:40,395 --> 00:03:42,285 Ford Explorer police interceptor 85 00:03:42,285 --> 00:03:45,685 with approximately 160,000 miles on it. 86 00:03:46,595 --> 00:03:49,685 With that being said, as we're looking at different options, 87 00:03:50,345 --> 00:03:54,285 we actually are recommending replacing the interceptor 88 00:03:54,285 --> 00:03:57,365 with a Ford F-150 police responder. 89 00:03:57,835 --> 00:03:59,165 Very similar to the receptor, 90 00:03:59,225 --> 00:04:01,285 but it's in the pickup truck version of that. 91 00:04:03,555 --> 00:04:06,805 That unit would include a six year, a hundred thousand mile 92 00:04:08,245 --> 00:04:09,725 warranty, extended warranty. 93 00:04:09,865 --> 00:04:14,725 And the delivery date time for that would be 12 to 14 weeks. 94 00:04:15,865 --> 00:04:19,725 We did receive two bids for the purchase of this. 95 00:04:20,675 --> 00:04:23,685 This unit from Sealy Ford locally here 96 00:04:23,685 --> 00:04:25,125 and then Bob Maxie Ford. 97 00:04:26,225 --> 00:04:28,805 And originally Maxie Ford appeared to be the low bidder. 98 00:04:29,265 --> 00:04:31,805 As we got digging into it, we noticed that 99 00:04:32,435 --> 00:04:34,045 Maxi Ford did not include the 100 00:04:34,205 --> 00:04:35,765 extended warranty in their bid price. 101 00:04:36,185 --> 00:04:38,565 So which no longer made them the low bidder. 102 00:04:39,845 --> 00:04:43,625 We also got some pricing through Bob Maxi Ford 103 00:04:43,625 --> 00:04:45,305 through the My deal purchasing program. 104 00:04:46,405 --> 00:04:49,585 And that price was actually more than the local bid. 105 00:04:49,805 --> 00:04:52,785 So we stuck with the local bid options at that point. 106 00:04:54,935 --> 00:04:59,355 On the budget side, our 2026 budget includes $65,000 107 00:04:59,455 --> 00:05:00,675 for the purchase of this unit. 108 00:05:01,325 --> 00:05:04,875 Sealy Ford's bid price was 61,346. 109 00:05:04,975 --> 00:05:07,435 So we're actually about $3,600 under budget. 110 00:05:08,415 --> 00:05:11,835 So with that we'll take any questions 111 00:05:11,855 --> 00:05:13,635 and we recommend the board award. 112 00:05:13,635 --> 00:05:16,875 The police interceptor bid number 2026 dash nine 113 00:05:16,935 --> 00:05:21,635 to Sealy Ford for a total price of $61,346. 114 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:24,115 The low bidder that meets specifications. 115 00:05:25,145 --> 00:05:26,835 Very good. A motion would be in order 116 00:05:30,825 --> 00:05:31,825 Support. 117 00:05:31,825 --> 00:05:34,595 We have a motion. Let's support by Commissioner Davis 118 00:05:35,095 --> 00:05:37,435 to approve Dave 2026 dash oh nine, 119 00:05:38,695 --> 00:05:41,795 the 20 26, 27 Police Interceptor. 120 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:45,025 Rebi. Is there any discussion on this motion 121 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:47,225 from the audience here in the building 122 00:05:49,545 --> 00:05:53,755 or online or commissioners? 123 00:05:54,275 --> 00:05:55,355 Questions? Comments? Commissioner 124 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:56,555 Davis. Then Commissioner Thompson. 125 00:05:57,245 --> 00:05:59,285 Managing director of the total bread. 126 00:05:59,285 --> 00:06:00,685 That includes tax entitled 127 00:06:01,985 --> 00:06:03,085 We we don't pay tax. 128 00:06:03,085 --> 00:06:05,365 Right. Oh, on the unit. So. Alright, 129 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:06,925 Thanks Commissioner Thompson. 130 00:06:07,725 --> 00:06:09,445 I just, and I, I've said this 131 00:06:09,445 --> 00:06:11,765 before when we purchased off, I'd like seeing 132 00:06:11,765 --> 00:06:16,085 that we can stay within our local area too to something 133 00:06:16,625 --> 00:06:17,625 That's interesting. 134 00:06:17,625 --> 00:06:20,445 We can, 'cause historically the My deal has been the better 135 00:06:20,445 --> 00:06:23,365 price but it seems like the last couple years we've had some 136 00:06:23,365 --> 00:06:24,445 opportunities here locally. 137 00:06:24,705 --> 00:06:26,885 So we're definitely looking both directions. 138 00:06:28,615 --> 00:06:31,915 Any other questions or comments? Hearing none. 139 00:06:32,015 --> 00:06:35,715 All in favor of approving bid. 2026 dash oh nine. 140 00:06:35,815 --> 00:06:40,355 The new 20 26, 27 Police interceptor say aye. Aye. Aye. 141 00:06:40,365 --> 00:06:43,755 Those opposed say no. Motion carries. Next is item V. 142 00:06:43,785 --> 00:06:46,995 Request approval of bid 2026 dash 10 143 00:06:47,775 --> 00:06:52,395 New 20 26 27 3 quarter ton pickup trucks Managing director. 144 00:06:52,735 --> 00:06:54,355 All right, again, some background here 145 00:06:55,075 --> 00:06:58,075 outlined in our capital outlay section of our 22 6 budget. 146 00:06:58,075 --> 00:07:00,995 Under our capital improvement plan is the purchase 147 00:07:00,995 --> 00:07:02,195 of two pickup trucks. 148 00:07:04,175 --> 00:07:06,475 We specify in this threequarter ton trucks. 149 00:07:07,855 --> 00:07:11,355 So we use these vehicles for administration type work 150 00:07:11,615 --> 00:07:14,395 and our construction and our road maintenance operations. 151 00:07:14,855 --> 00:07:18,875 We currently have 37 vehicles in our fleet. 152 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:21,995 That includes our van, some SUVs 153 00:07:22,095 --> 00:07:25,595 and primarily pickup trucks that service again our fleet 154 00:07:25,595 --> 00:07:26,635 and our administrative staff. 155 00:07:27,895 --> 00:07:32,155 We did receive two bids again for these two vehicles 156 00:07:32,855 --> 00:07:36,035 and same two bidders, Sealy Ford and Bob Maxey Ford. 157 00:07:37,325 --> 00:07:39,355 Sealy Ford was the low bidder again 158 00:07:39,955 --> 00:07:42,955 for the two units at 134,260. 159 00:07:43,015 --> 00:07:44,235 And that's again for two units. 160 00:07:46,855 --> 00:07:48,115 As far as replacements, 161 00:07:50,265 --> 00:07:51,855 we're actually gonna move two 162 00:07:51,855 --> 00:07:54,095 of our administrative vehicles into the fleet. 163 00:07:54,355 --> 00:07:56,255 So these two new trucks would be used 164 00:07:56,275 --> 00:07:58,735 as administration vehicles for the first three 165 00:07:58,735 --> 00:07:59,895 or four years of their life 166 00:08:00,275 --> 00:08:03,135 and then they'll transfer into the fleet also at that point. 167 00:08:03,775 --> 00:08:05,215 But we are selling one unit, 168 00:08:05,735 --> 00:08:10,295 which is an older 2015 GMC Threequarter ton truck 169 00:08:10,295 --> 00:08:12,655 that's got about 140,000 miles on it. 170 00:08:13,735 --> 00:08:16,995 The expected delivery date from Sealy is 120 171 00:08:17,065 --> 00:08:18,155 days for these units. 172 00:08:19,375 --> 00:08:21,795 It also includes a 72 month warranty. 173 00:08:22,975 --> 00:08:24,075 And then the budget side, 174 00:08:25,455 --> 00:08:29,675 we had $150,000 in our, our capital outlay budget 175 00:08:29,775 --> 00:08:32,475 for these two units and the units came in at 176 00:08:32,475 --> 00:08:34,835 134,260. 177 00:08:34,975 --> 00:08:38,755 So we're well under budget. Over 15,000 under budget there. 178 00:08:41,175 --> 00:08:44,935 I do wanna mention Tony Allen's here today. 179 00:08:45,085 --> 00:08:46,735 Tony has worked on all three 180 00:08:46,735 --> 00:08:48,575 of these agenda items here in the last week, 181 00:08:48,575 --> 00:08:50,615 so I appreciate his time putting all this 182 00:08:50,815 --> 00:08:52,095 together back and forth. 183 00:08:52,285 --> 00:08:54,895 Lots of questions and trying to find us the best pricing. 184 00:08:55,105 --> 00:08:56,685 So appreciate all his work there. 185 00:08:57,225 --> 00:08:59,565 So with that we recommend the board award, 186 00:08:59,565 --> 00:09:03,205 the threequarter ton pickup bid number 2026 dash 10 187 00:09:03,665 --> 00:09:06,965 for 2 20 27 Ford F 2 54 188 00:09:06,965 --> 00:09:10,165 by four Super Duty crew cab trucks to Sealy Ford 189 00:09:10,185 --> 00:09:13,805 for a total price of $134,260. 190 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:16,585 Very good. A motion would be in order. 191 00:09:16,935 --> 00:09:18,905 I'll make that motion. I approve. 192 00:09:20,415 --> 00:09:22,935 We have a motion by Commissioner Thompson 193 00:09:23,125 --> 00:09:24,735 with support from Commissioner Kennedy 194 00:09:24,955 --> 00:09:27,255 to approve bid 2026 dash 10, 195 00:09:27,315 --> 00:09:30,215 the 20 26 27 3 quarter ton pickup trucks. 196 00:09:30,635 --> 00:09:33,775 Is there any discussion on this item from the audience here 197 00:09:33,775 --> 00:09:36,515 in the building or 198 00:09:36,575 --> 00:09:40,515 online or commissioners? 199 00:09:40,835 --> 00:09:42,675 Questions? Comments? I have question. 200 00:09:42,855 --> 00:09:44,395 Go ahead Commissioner Davis, would you 201 00:09:44,395 --> 00:09:46,235 Come with me next time I go to buy a vehicle? 202 00:09:49,485 --> 00:09:51,675 Appreciate pretty good deal. Appreciate 203 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:52,675 It. 204 00:09:52,675 --> 00:09:54,195 Yes, absolutely. Well under budget, so very good. 205 00:09:54,915 --> 00:09:56,715 Absolutely on both these last two items. 206 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:01,415 Any other further discussion? Commissioners? Hearing none. 207 00:10:01,475 --> 00:10:03,895 All in favor of approving item B, the approval 208 00:10:03,915 --> 00:10:05,775 of bid 2026 dash 10. 209 00:10:06,115 --> 00:10:10,695 The 20 26 27 3 quarter ton pickup truck. Say aye. Aye. 210 00:10:10,705 --> 00:10:12,895 Those opposed say no. Motion carries. 211 00:10:13,445 --> 00:10:17,975 Next is the item C request approval of bid 2026 dash 11. 212 00:10:18,515 --> 00:10:22,375 The underbody scraper sectional, tungsten carbide tipped 213 00:10:22,395 --> 00:10:26,135 and special hardened cutting edges managing director. 214 00:10:26,525 --> 00:10:30,135 Yeah, that's a mouthful. Really what we're we're sharing 215 00:10:30,165 --> 00:10:32,775 with the board here today is our underbody 216 00:10:32,885 --> 00:10:34,015 scraper cutting edges. 217 00:10:34,015 --> 00:10:36,455 So it's the wearable edge, it's on the mold board 218 00:10:36,455 --> 00:10:39,695 of our snowplows along with our motor graders. 219 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:43,575 So those obviously wear is as they work their way up 220 00:10:43,575 --> 00:10:46,175 and down the roads, moving snow and grading gravel roads. 221 00:10:46,675 --> 00:10:50,895 We also use 'em for preparing gravels when we put hot mix 222 00:10:50,925 --> 00:10:52,455 asphalt paving projects down. 223 00:10:52,955 --> 00:10:54,615 So again, just a a wearable edge. 224 00:10:54,615 --> 00:10:57,655 We go through a lot of them throughout the, the seasons. 225 00:10:58,555 --> 00:11:01,495 And this is a bid that is, is very 226 00:11:02,755 --> 00:11:05,215 needed in our world without cutting edges. 227 00:11:05,215 --> 00:11:08,095 We don't plow snow so we always need 228 00:11:08,095 --> 00:11:09,775 to have an abundance of a supply. 229 00:11:09,775 --> 00:11:11,575 It's almost like having salt in your salt barn. 230 00:11:11,595 --> 00:11:14,655 If you don't have cutting edges, we're not gonna plow snow. 231 00:11:14,755 --> 00:11:17,135 So just to break this down real quick, 232 00:11:17,235 --> 00:11:18,895 and there's two types of cutting edges. 233 00:11:18,955 --> 00:11:22,615 The tungsten carbide cutting edge I'll talk about first. 234 00:11:23,075 --> 00:11:27,255 That's primarily what we use today with our snowplows, 235 00:11:27,775 --> 00:11:31,375 simply because they last a lot longer than the other style, 236 00:11:31,475 --> 00:11:34,775 the, the flame hardened or the hardened steel type. 237 00:11:35,835 --> 00:11:38,855 We see, you know, five times the life anyway out 238 00:11:38,855 --> 00:11:42,175 of a tungsten carbide versus the flame hardened, 239 00:11:42,175 --> 00:11:44,495 which is the, the style we used to use years ago. 240 00:11:46,755 --> 00:11:48,175 But they're very expensive and, 241 00:11:48,315 --> 00:11:49,775 and the, the price of this tunks 242 00:11:49,775 --> 00:11:52,175 and carbide is, is gone up with the new tariffs. 243 00:11:52,205 --> 00:11:54,045 It's primarily mined in China. 244 00:11:55,345 --> 00:11:58,165 So we're seeing a, a pretty significant increase there. 245 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:05,365 We only had one bidder for these cutting edges, both types 246 00:12:05,365 --> 00:12:06,965 of cutting edges and that was through St. 247 00:12:07,125 --> 00:12:09,005 Regis culvert was actually our supplier 248 00:12:09,105 --> 00:12:10,285 the last time we purchased. 249 00:12:11,505 --> 00:12:14,085 But these tungsten carbide cutting edges, 250 00:12:14,685 --> 00:12:16,165 they come in four foot sections. 251 00:12:16,885 --> 00:12:20,365 It takes three sections on an underbody 252 00:12:20,365 --> 00:12:21,765 scraper of a a plow truck. 253 00:12:21,905 --> 00:12:25,725 So a section per the bid price is approximately 254 00:12:25,725 --> 00:12:27,725 $775 per section. 255 00:12:28,285 --> 00:12:30,205 Hmm. So it's very costly. 256 00:12:30,245 --> 00:12:35,205 When we replace these, we're recommending to purchase 270 257 00:12:35,305 --> 00:12:38,405 of these sections for a total price 258 00:12:38,405 --> 00:12:42,205 of $209,088 through St. 259 00:12:42,365 --> 00:12:43,965 Regis Culvert and St. 260 00:12:44,125 --> 00:12:46,565 Regis culvert in their bid advised 261 00:12:46,565 --> 00:12:48,245 that they can only guarantee the pricing 262 00:12:49,005 --> 00:12:50,525 that they provided for 30 days. 263 00:12:51,065 --> 00:12:52,765 Our bid specification said 264 00:12:53,525 --> 00:12:55,325 required pricing to the end of the year. 265 00:12:55,545 --> 00:12:57,725 So they're not able to to do that. 266 00:12:58,305 --> 00:13:00,965 So it's really just a one time opportunity for us 267 00:13:00,965 --> 00:13:02,405 to purchase at this price. 268 00:13:03,425 --> 00:13:05,965 And then moving on to the, I call 'em flame hardened, 269 00:13:06,245 --> 00:13:08,605 special hardened cutting edges. 270 00:13:09,795 --> 00:13:11,345 These are significantly cheaper 271 00:13:11,445 --> 00:13:13,265 but again they don't last near as long. 272 00:13:14,375 --> 00:13:16,625 Typically they're gonna last maybe two, 273 00:13:16,625 --> 00:13:18,825 three days plowing snow at the most 274 00:13:19,745 --> 00:13:20,945 and then we'd have to change 'em. 275 00:13:21,105 --> 00:13:25,505 They're again, considerably cheaper approximately $153 each 276 00:13:26,245 --> 00:13:29,105 and it only takes two of them to, to do a blade change 277 00:13:29,345 --> 00:13:30,545 'cause they're six foot sections. 278 00:13:31,925 --> 00:13:34,785 But we use 'em primarily on gravel roads. 279 00:13:35,225 --> 00:13:37,865 We also use them with our motor graders 280 00:13:39,365 --> 00:13:43,265 and then again prepping projects for hot mix asphalt on 281 00:13:43,325 --> 00:13:44,945 and they're always just a good backup. 282 00:13:45,565 --> 00:13:48,305 And when carbide dumpster carbides not available. 283 00:13:49,565 --> 00:13:52,145 We did interesting though only have one bid 284 00:13:52,245 --> 00:13:55,665 but we had 10 downloads so we had many looking, 285 00:13:55,935 --> 00:13:57,665 just not many bidding. 286 00:13:58,465 --> 00:14:00,105 Historically we've only seen two or three. 287 00:14:01,525 --> 00:14:03,625 But again, this time we only received one 288 00:14:03,725 --> 00:14:06,095 bid on the budget side. 289 00:14:06,545 --> 00:14:08,895 These units would be purchased and put into inventory 290 00:14:09,395 --> 00:14:12,415 and then as they were used in the equipment, 291 00:14:12,415 --> 00:14:14,815 we would expense 'em to the equipment on that budget year. 292 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:17,415 So with that we recommend the board award, 293 00:14:17,415 --> 00:14:20,655 the underbody scraper, sectional punks and carbide tipped 294 00:14:20,995 --> 00:14:24,655 and special harden cutting edges bid number 2026 dash 295 00:14:24,675 --> 00:14:26,095 11 to St. 296 00:14:26,255 --> 00:14:28,895 Regis culvert, the sole bidder meeting specifications 297 00:14:29,525 --> 00:14:32,535 with the option to extend for three one year extensions 298 00:14:32,595 --> 00:14:34,095 by mutual agreement with both parties. 299 00:14:35,705 --> 00:14:38,815 Thank you. A motion would be in order motion 300 00:14:38,915 --> 00:14:40,695 to approve their support. 301 00:14:41,155 --> 00:14:44,935 Second, we have a motion by Commissioner Davis with support 302 00:14:44,935 --> 00:14:48,175 to approve item C bid 2026 dash 11. 303 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:51,925 Is there any discussion on this item from anyone in the 304 00:14:52,085 --> 00:14:55,905 audience here in the building or online? 305 00:14:58,355 --> 00:15:01,885 Commissioners? Questions? Comments? Commissioner Kennedy? 306 00:15:02,585 --> 00:15:05,045 So I just wanna clarify 307 00:15:05,265 --> 00:15:08,925 or verify that the amount we're talking we're approving is 308 00:15:08,925 --> 00:15:12,405 that the 227,412 309 00:15:13,025 --> 00:15:16,685 or is it 209,088? 310 00:15:18,085 --> 00:15:19,965 'cause there's two different amounts for the, 311 00:15:23,405 --> 00:15:26,465 so I'm, I just wanna be sure 312 00:15:26,695 --> 00:15:27,785 that I got, I'm getting it right. 313 00:15:27,785 --> 00:15:29,705 Commissioner McKinney, where's your second amount at? 314 00:15:29,825 --> 00:15:31,745 I have the 2 27. 4 4 12. 315 00:15:31,925 --> 00:15:34,825 Yes. 2 27. Four 12. 316 00:15:35,465 --> 00:15:37,225 I guess on page three if you look, 317 00:15:37,325 --> 00:15:41,225 it says the sole bidder me bidder meeting specifications 318 00:15:42,085 --> 00:15:43,305 was submitted by St. 319 00:15:43,465 --> 00:15:47,335 Regis Covert in the amount of $774 320 00:15:47,355 --> 00:15:51,495 and four seven each based on the estimate quality of 270. 321 00:15:52,705 --> 00:15:53,705 I must have got that wrong. 322 00:15:54,735 --> 00:15:56,785 Cutting edges sections total 323 00:15:56,965 --> 00:15:59,745 209,209. 324 00:16:00,045 --> 00:16:02,545 Fourth paragraph. I just wanted to be sure 325 00:16:02,575 --> 00:16:04,665 that I was looking at the right thing. Mike, the fourth 326 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:05,785 Paragraph in Mag C 327 00:16:06,485 --> 00:16:10,165 or 32 3. 328 00:16:10,505 --> 00:16:10,725 Yes, 329 00:16:18,455 --> 00:16:19,825 There's two cutting in. 330 00:16:20,825 --> 00:16:25,085 So the one with the 2 0 9, the other 18,000. 331 00:16:27,175 --> 00:16:29,595 Do you see where No, where are you at again? I'm sorry. 332 00:16:29,935 --> 00:16:31,035 May I tell? 333 00:16:32,115 --> 00:16:33,125 Sure real? 334 00:16:37,005 --> 00:16:39,225 Yep, I see the 18,000, 335 00:16:39,615 --> 00:16:41,625 it's in the second paragraph on page four 336 00:16:42,045 --> 00:16:46,345 and that's what it's Yep they have the 18 337 00:16:46,345 --> 00:16:49,745 and the, it's 2 7 7 total. 338 00:16:49,885 --> 00:16:53,905 So the 2 0 9 0 88 is for the IDE 339 00:16:54,005 --> 00:16:57,265 for the constant carbide. And then the other 340 00:16:58,145 --> 00:17:01,225 18,000 is 3 24 Is for the special hard. 341 00:17:01,695 --> 00:17:02,825 Okay, thank you. We're 342 00:17:02,825 --> 00:17:05,885 Purchasing both right And that quantity of both 343 00:17:05,945 --> 00:17:08,045 And that gives your total, total 2 27. 344 00:17:08,555 --> 00:17:10,805 Okay, thank you. Those you see the 345 00:17:10,965 --> 00:17:12,045 18 that's on page four. 346 00:17:12,835 --> 00:17:15,455 Yes, I did. I just wanted to be sure. Good 347 00:17:15,655 --> 00:17:16,655 Question. 348 00:17:16,655 --> 00:17:18,255 And Commissioner Thompson. So 349 00:17:18,425 --> 00:17:20,375 We're not changing what we're using, 350 00:17:20,755 --> 00:17:22,255 we just use both kinds. 351 00:17:22,355 --> 00:17:24,775 That's correct. Correct. We primarily use the tungston 352 00:17:24,775 --> 00:17:28,255 carbide, but there's times that special harden 353 00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:29,735 and flame harden is the better often, 354 00:17:29,735 --> 00:17:31,615 especially if we're grading grave roads, 355 00:17:31,835 --> 00:17:36,335 we plowing gravel roads using the tungsten carbide. 356 00:17:36,635 --> 00:17:38,575 The, the face of that is, is just 357 00:17:38,575 --> 00:17:41,255 that simple hardened material and it washes off 358 00:17:41,255 --> 00:17:43,725 and the carbide falls out prematurely. 359 00:17:43,905 --> 00:17:46,165 So that's why we need both. 360 00:17:46,425 --> 00:17:50,485 And then again, it's a good backup plan just to have a, 361 00:17:50,805 --> 00:17:52,485 a supply of 'em around in case we do 362 00:17:52,635 --> 00:17:53,965 have a severe winter and 363 00:17:53,965 --> 00:17:56,485 We and supply chain issues too. Yeah, 364 00:17:56,485 --> 00:17:57,485 No I understand. 365 00:17:57,485 --> 00:17:58,685 I just wanna make sure we weren't, 366 00:17:58,685 --> 00:18:01,165 because the cost, we were going something less 367 00:18:01,405 --> 00:18:02,605 'cause it's gonna cost you more. 368 00:18:02,795 --> 00:18:03,765 Well it's interesting we talked 369 00:18:03,765 --> 00:18:04,925 about it internally, right? 370 00:18:05,105 --> 00:18:06,765 Is do we go back to the old, 371 00:18:07,865 --> 00:18:09,765 but again, the time it takes to come in 372 00:18:09,765 --> 00:18:10,845 and change blades Yep. 373 00:18:10,845 --> 00:18:12,925 And the performance of a blade, it just, 374 00:18:13,145 --> 00:18:14,325 it makes sense to continue the 375 00:18:14,325 --> 00:18:17,725 Labor and the time lasting out. Yeah. Okay. 376 00:18:17,725 --> 00:18:19,205 Well thank you. Thank you Chair 377 00:18:19,925 --> 00:18:21,525 Commissioner Davis And your director. 378 00:18:22,065 --> 00:18:25,665 So in those internal dialogues, I presume there was like a, 379 00:18:25,945 --> 00:18:30,225 a cost benefit analysis curve on the cost of a 380 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:34,185 treated steel versus the carbide 381 00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:36,065 and at some point those two cross 382 00:18:36,565 --> 00:18:38,865 and that that's, that's the point in which the, you know, 383 00:18:38,865 --> 00:18:43,025 the price of the carbide is now exceeds the, 384 00:18:43,045 --> 00:18:45,465 the efficiency that you gain from it. 385 00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:48,425 So do, where are we, how close are we to that intersection? 386 00:18:48,705 --> 00:18:50,145 I can't tell you exactly where we're at, 387 00:18:50,165 --> 00:18:51,665 but we are fast approaching it. 388 00:18:51,855 --> 00:18:54,865 Yeah. Years ago we switched to the carbide, right. 389 00:18:54,865 --> 00:18:56,785 And I'm gonna say probably 10, 15 years ago. 390 00:18:57,725 --> 00:18:59,105 But we are getting to the point 391 00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:02,345 where if this price continues to increase, it just pays 392 00:19:02,345 --> 00:19:04,745 to buy the, the cheaper blade and change it every two 393 00:19:04,745 --> 00:19:05,745 Days. 394 00:19:05,745 --> 00:19:06,425 Right. So yeah, because 395 00:19:06,805 --> 00:19:07,905 If we see, you know, another 396 00:19:08,485 --> 00:19:10,305 20% increase, we're probably there. 397 00:19:10,655 --> 00:19:11,945 Okay, that's what I was thinking. 398 00:19:11,965 --> 00:19:13,105 We might be approaching 399 00:19:13,105 --> 00:19:15,665 that just from quick scan of those numbers. 400 00:19:15,845 --> 00:19:17,865 So, alright. I presume 401 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:19,025 we're keeping an eye on that because Yeah, 402 00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,145 And we're looking, looking at other options too. 403 00:19:20,205 --> 00:19:22,745 And we've done a lot of trials over the years using 404 00:19:22,745 --> 00:19:23,745 different types of material. 405 00:19:23,885 --> 00:19:27,345 If you tried using two flamed hardened blades too thick, 406 00:19:28,485 --> 00:19:30,305 you know, does last a little longer, 407 00:19:30,365 --> 00:19:31,585 but they tend to loosen up. 408 00:19:32,225 --> 00:19:33,905 We've tried some rubber cutting edges 409 00:19:34,865 --> 00:19:36,705 but they don't seem to last but most of the day. 410 00:19:36,805 --> 00:19:39,535 So, but we're always looking for, you know, 411 00:19:40,285 --> 00:19:41,935 different option, a backup plan 412 00:19:42,075 --> 00:19:43,935 so we can continue to do that. 413 00:19:44,505 --> 00:19:48,685 Thank you. Any further questions? Commissioners? 414 00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:52,625 Hearing none request items. 415 00:19:53,885 --> 00:19:55,785 All in favor of approving item C. 416 00:19:55,845 --> 00:19:58,745 The request approval of bid 2026 dash 11 417 00:19:59,315 --> 00:20:02,745 under body scraper sectional, T carbide tipped 418 00:20:02,845 --> 00:20:04,545 and special hard and cutting it. 419 00:20:04,545 --> 00:20:07,025 Just say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed say no. 420 00:20:07,025 --> 00:20:09,385 Motion carries. That'll bring us back 421 00:20:09,385 --> 00:20:11,505 to public comment on non-ag agenda items. 422 00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:14,225 Is there any public comment from anyone in the building here 423 00:20:14,325 --> 00:20:17,985 on non-agenda items or online? 424 00:20:18,325 --> 00:20:21,185 Any public comment from anyone online today? 425 00:20:24,725 --> 00:20:27,545 See none. That'll take us to managing director's, 426 00:20:27,545 --> 00:20:28,545 time managing directors. 427 00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:30,345 All right, so a few items for today. 428 00:20:30,665 --> 00:20:32,785 First of all, it is in the weekly report, 429 00:20:32,845 --> 00:20:35,465 but I didn't had a chance to read it or didn't notice. 430 00:20:36,005 --> 00:20:38,665 We did receive some safety grant funding 431 00:20:38,845 --> 00:20:41,945 for two projects coming up potentially 432 00:20:43,815 --> 00:20:45,795 to be built in 2028. 433 00:20:46,725 --> 00:20:49,825 First of all is Sprinkle Road at V Avenue is a roundabout. 434 00:20:50,635 --> 00:20:53,575 And then we also have the East Michigan project from 435 00:20:53,575 --> 00:20:58,255 Sprinkle Road West to City of Kalamazoo limits. 436 00:20:58,855 --> 00:21:00,655 And that's an HMA type project 437 00:21:01,135 --> 00:21:03,775 and it'll actually include rumble strips similar to 438 00:21:03,775 --> 00:21:05,375 what we're doing with SS four A. 439 00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:08,415 So we'll continue to, to move forward 440 00:21:09,045 --> 00:21:10,775 with those projects and get 'em designed. 441 00:21:12,175 --> 00:21:14,625 Also talking to Commissioner Thompson 442 00:21:14,645 --> 00:21:16,785 before the meeting, he's well aware of this. 443 00:21:17,105 --> 00:21:20,145 He got caught up in our project at Sprinkle and M 3 43. 444 00:21:20,985 --> 00:21:23,105 That's been going on yesterday 445 00:21:23,105 --> 00:21:25,385 and today it's really a small project 446 00:21:25,485 --> 00:21:26,865 but in a very busy area. 447 00:21:27,305 --> 00:21:30,425 We're doing some paving at the intersection of Sprinkle Road 448 00:21:30,445 --> 00:21:31,625 and M 3 43. 449 00:21:32,505 --> 00:21:34,265 I think we're wrapping that up maybe today. 450 00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:38,285 So there's not, it's mostly melon fill work, 451 00:21:38,285 --> 00:21:41,445 so there won't be much follow up restoration 452 00:21:41,515 --> 00:21:42,565 type work afterwards. 453 00:21:42,665 --> 00:21:44,765 So appreciate everybody's patience there. 454 00:21:46,855 --> 00:21:50,295 I did also wanna mention we're getting into budget season. 455 00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:53,135 So to put it on all the commissioner's calendars, 456 00:21:53,455 --> 00:21:56,575 we have a budget work session scheduled for November 17th 457 00:21:57,355 --> 00:22:00,255 and that's right after our regular scheduled board meeting. 458 00:22:02,425 --> 00:22:06,285 And then the last item I wanted to share is 459 00:22:06,915 --> 00:22:10,045 there's an opportunity for some training on asset management 460 00:22:10,185 --> 00:22:11,325 for paved roads. 461 00:22:11,345 --> 00:22:13,125 So if there's any commissioners interested, 462 00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:16,605 I know we have a few staff that may be going, it's close by. 463 00:22:16,605 --> 00:22:18,245 It's down to St. Joe County Road Commission 464 00:22:18,305 --> 00:22:19,685 on September 15th. 465 00:22:20,155 --> 00:22:24,565 It's a three hour session with Pete Ola. 466 00:22:25,155 --> 00:22:27,405 He's from the Center for Technology and Training. 467 00:22:27,475 --> 00:22:30,285 Does a great job just going over the basics 468 00:22:30,285 --> 00:22:31,445 of asset management. 469 00:22:31,545 --> 00:22:33,845 So if you're interested, let lean or I know. 470 00:22:34,275 --> 00:22:36,325 Okay. Can you email us? Absolutely. 471 00:22:36,325 --> 00:22:37,925 Can the information please. Thank you. Yep. 472 00:22:39,285 --> 00:22:41,625 And that's all I have unless there's questions for me. 473 00:22:42,145 --> 00:22:43,905 Questions for the managing director? Commissioners? 474 00:22:45,705 --> 00:22:47,115 Nothing. Nothing. 475 00:22:49,795 --> 00:22:51,455 I'm drawing a blank as well. All right. 476 00:22:51,515 --> 00:22:53,015 We will go into Commissioner's times. 477 00:22:53,015 --> 00:22:55,815 Commissioner Kennedy, I have no reports. 478 00:22:56,105 --> 00:22:57,855 Thank you. Commissioner Davis. 479 00:22:58,465 --> 00:23:03,175 Thank you very much. So, attended the EEC meeting 480 00:23:04,075 --> 00:23:07,255 two weeks ago and we had a presentation from the Michigan 481 00:23:07,255 --> 00:23:09,175 State University Extension Office. 482 00:23:09,735 --> 00:23:11,495 Basically just explaining what they do, 483 00:23:11,495 --> 00:23:14,575 what their mission is, the various projects 484 00:23:14,575 --> 00:23:15,535 and pro programs that 485 00:23:15,535 --> 00:23:19,095 they're maintaining throughout the county. 486 00:23:20,075 --> 00:23:22,575 It was extremely educational. 487 00:23:23,165 --> 00:23:24,735 Well I think a lot of people learned a lot 488 00:23:24,735 --> 00:23:25,815 about what they, they were doing. 489 00:23:26,365 --> 00:23:29,695 They're also, they're, they do everything from, you know, ex 490 00:23:30,245 --> 00:23:32,695 tree planning to recycling tires. 491 00:23:33,155 --> 00:23:36,295 So it's kind of a, they do a broad mix for, you know, 492 00:23:36,295 --> 00:23:40,015 very small staff and they seem to be energetic 493 00:23:40,115 --> 00:23:45,055 and willing to work with all potential stakeholders. 494 00:23:45,425 --> 00:23:46,965 So really it was good meet. 495 00:23:47,185 --> 00:23:48,685 So that's pretty much all I have today. 496 00:23:49,345 --> 00:23:51,965 I'm just glad to be here. Very good. Everybody's work. 497 00:23:52,175 --> 00:23:54,085 Thank you. Commissioner Davis. Commissioner Thompson. 498 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:57,285 I don't have anything. Our, the last board 499 00:23:57,285 --> 00:23:59,165 of public work committee was canceled again, 500 00:23:59,165 --> 00:24:01,405 so we'll see if anything happens next month. 501 00:24:02,195 --> 00:24:05,205 Very good. And Vice Chair Stehouwer is on vacation 502 00:24:05,265 --> 00:24:06,485 and not present today. 503 00:24:07,345 --> 00:24:09,125 The only thing, I have a couple things to mention. 504 00:24:09,525 --> 00:24:11,565 I attended the Township supervisors meeting. 505 00:24:12,355 --> 00:24:15,525 They had a couple lengthy discussions on some issues. 506 00:24:15,895 --> 00:24:18,965 We're, continue to be happy to host those meetings 507 00:24:18,965 --> 00:24:20,965 and hopefully continue to do that in the future. 508 00:24:22,225 --> 00:24:24,965 Shared some thoughts with their, their thoughts 509 00:24:24,965 --> 00:24:26,965 of possibly making a more formal group. 510 00:24:27,105 --> 00:24:29,005 And I, I commented 511 00:24:29,005 --> 00:24:31,765 that I think their informality is their greatest asset 512 00:24:31,765 --> 00:24:34,165 and I hope they continue the way they're doing 513 00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:35,605 and we're happy to host them. 514 00:24:36,685 --> 00:24:39,725 Consumers Energy gave a presentation on some pipeline work 515 00:24:39,725 --> 00:24:41,805 that's gonna be coming through the county here 516 00:24:42,425 --> 00:24:44,525 in the next couple of years and that was very good 517 00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:46,205 and we are happy to host that as well 518 00:24:46,825 --> 00:24:49,605 and looking forward to working with them as they go through 519 00:24:49,605 --> 00:24:50,805 that project as well. 520 00:24:51,065 --> 00:24:53,405 So that's all I have. 521 00:24:54,505 --> 00:24:55,845 Seeing no further business 522 00:24:55,845 --> 00:24:57,165 before the Road Commission, a motion 523 00:24:57,165 --> 00:24:58,725 to adjourn would be in order. 524 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:01,805 Move. Second, We have a motion 525 00:25:01,995 --> 00:25:03,445 with support to adjourn the meeting. 526 00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:06,485 All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed say no. 527 00:25:06,545 --> 00:25:08,405 The meeting is adjourned. Thank you all. 528 00:25:08,905 --> 00:25:11,215 See you in two weeks, weeks.