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And from the sustaining members of this

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>> it's Morning Edition on radioq. I'm Jeff

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Boser. In recent years, volunteer fire

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departments have had trouble attracting

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enough volunteers to handle increasing

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numbers of emergency calls. But one

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Virginia department seems to have found

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a new source of volunteers to fill out

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its roster. Cardinal News reporter Eric

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Solzano covered this story. He spoke

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with Fred Eckles.

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>> Eric, volunteer fire departments around

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Virginia and virtually everywhere are

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having trouble attracting and retaining

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the numbers of volunteers that they

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need. What's making it so difficult?

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>> The main figure to point here is the

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increased call volume that fire

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departments across the nation have

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experienced. Those call volumes have

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more than tripled over the last 40

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years. That leads to uh increased time

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demand on those volunteers. Also more

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training requirements to respond to the

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numerous amount of calls. The Blackburg

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Volunteer Fire Department, which you

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wrote about in your story, has come up

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with the idea of attracting students

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from Virginia Tech to serve as volunteer

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firefighters. How are they making that

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an attractive option for college

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students? The Blackburg Fire Department

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is saying that they need to invest time

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and and resources into these students to

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bring them on. That is translated into

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providing full turnout gear at uniform

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and equipment to these students with the

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initial training that is free of charge

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for a student. These volunteer

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firefighters must go through different

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kind of trainings such as fire one, fire

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fire department to let these students

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community for these students. The

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station provides, you know, access to

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the internet, a washer, a dryer, a day

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room where students are, you know,

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encouraged to hang out while they're on

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call or not and and spend some free time

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>> How well is it working? Are they getting

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terms of the students who are coming on

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keeping volunteers. Are the students

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department to to understand a little bit

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more about that. He tells me that an

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estimated 95% of students who come on to

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volunteers as well. These students, it

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the facilities in which they can go and

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a community workshop in New York, which

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>> uh, and now I'm a sculptor. Mhm.

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>> So, in April, I left the startup that I

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was working at and started working here

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full-time.

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>> He recalls a recent conversation with a

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younger software engineer, a neighbor,

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who said that the work had changed from

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thinking about code and solving problems

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to now babysitting AI agents that do a

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lot of the work.

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>> And I figure when they do take over the

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world, this sort of physical stuff is

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going to be the last thing that they

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take over. So, we'll be safer for a

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little bit longer.

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>> That's job safety, he says. And it's

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better than staring at a screen all day.

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But not everyone I meet here is doing

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this for work.

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>> Hi. This is so beautiful. I'm Kimberly.

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>> Kimberly. Nice to meet you.

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>> Nice to meet you also. Um could you

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describe what you're making here if

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that's okay?

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>> I'm making a uh raven.

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>> Miles Cucker is making this ornate raven

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out of steel.

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>> It's my grandson.

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>> This is great. How many of these have

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you made?

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>> This is my first bird.

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>> Oh, really? What else have you made?

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>> Uh, it's a cat, a dog, a crocodile, a

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koala, and a platypus.

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>> All for your grandkids.

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>> Yep.

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>> That's They must love these things. My grandfather used to make whirly gigs

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for us.

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>> Oh, when I was a kid.

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>> And do you still have them?

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>> I do. I do still have my whly gig. Yes.

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>> Great.

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>> I'm not sure you'd get this kind of

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moment in a room full of robots. And

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these tactile skills, says executive

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director Scott Vancampen, are even more

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valuable in our increasingly digital

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focused economy.

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>> The stuff where really we need to

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manipulate and to make decisions quickly

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and accurately.

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I don't think that robots are actually

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going to replace us.

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>> He's proud to give people a place to

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build something, whether that's

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furniture, an animal made of steel, or a

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business. It is very rewarding to to be

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able to support and encourage these

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people to to really build whatever they

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want to build.

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>> You can find pictures and videos of the

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maker space [music] on our Instagram @

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marketplace APM in Washington. I'm

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Kimberly Adams with the [music]

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Marketplace Morning Report

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from APM American Public Media.

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I'm Tanya Mosley.

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>> And I'm Wana Summers. People collect all

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Welcome to NewsHour from the BBC World

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Service. I'm Paul Henley. Coming up,

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Spanish voters react to their prime

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minister calling a snap election as

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protests rage over a housing crisis.

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[music]

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>> I reckon we need an election right now.

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We've got to get rid of Pedro Sanchez

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straight away. He's doing a terrible

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job.

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>> The presidential elections in Brazil

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that have South America's biggest

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democracy bitterly divided. The Russian

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blogger who turned against the Kremlin

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and is about to pay the price. We hear

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about the work of three scientists who

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today won the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

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>> This is a new very profound important

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tool for new scientists [music] to

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understand the brain and diseases of the

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brain. and the humble Australian phone

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box that's been granted heritage status.

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All after the latest world news.

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BBC News with Emily Thomas. Spain's

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Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has called

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a snap election. His announcement comes

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after his minority government's measures

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to tackle Spain's housing crisis were

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rejected by Parliament last Friday. In a

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televised speech, Mr. Sanchez said he

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wanted to obtain a broader majority in

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parliament to push through reforms.

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>> I have decided to convene an

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extraordinary council of ministers this

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very morning to dissolve the Spanish

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parliament and call a general election

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to be held on Sunday the 29th of

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November in accordance with the time

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frames laid down by law. The time has

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therefore come for the people of Spain

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to decide what future you want for

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yourselves and for your country.

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>> Yemen's government forces say they've

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begun an offensive on the capital SA in

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an effort to retake the city from the

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Iranbacked Houthi movement. A Houthy

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affiliated TV station reported a Saudi

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attack on SA. Mimi Swaybe has more. The

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offensive comes after a Saudi le

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coalition said it hit hundreds of

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targets as attempts to reverse the

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advances made last month. Yemeni

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officials say its forces seized control

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of positions on the Bab al-Mandab Strait

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as it drove Houthy fighters away from

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the strategic.

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>> Good morning and welcome to the October

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5th, 2026 9:00 a.m. informal session of

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Rono City Council. City Council meetings

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will be televised live and replayed on

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RVTV channel 3 on Thursdays at 700 p.m.

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and Saturdays from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00

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p.m. And our meetings are video streamed

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through YouTube live at

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youtube.com/rronoteva.

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Council meetings are offered with closed

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captioning for the deaf or heart of

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hearing. This time I'll ask our deputy

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city clerk, Miss Webb to please call the

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role.

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>> Miss Powers

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Hagen

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>> here. Miss Sanchez Jones, Vice Mayor

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Magguire

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>> here,

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>> Mr. Nash

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>> here,

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>> Mr. Volison

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>> here,

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>> and Mayor Cobb

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>> here, and we are all present. Thank you.

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We have uh three uh items for action

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this morning. The first is a

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communication from my office requesting

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that the council convene in a closed

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meeting to discuss vacancies on certain

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authorities, boards, commissions, and

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committees appointed by the council

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pursuant to section 2.2-3711A1, 2-3711A1

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code of Virginia is amended. Uh for

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those uh interested, the boards and

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commissions we'll be considering

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appointments for are listed in the

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agenda. Need a motion and second. Please

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>> move the motion.

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>> Council members Vol and Powers. Madame

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Clerk, will you please call the role?

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>> Miss Powers

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>> here. I [laughter]

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>> Mr. Hagen.

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>> I.

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>> Miss Sanchez Jones.

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>> Hi.

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>> Vice Mayor Magguire.

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>> Hi. Mr. Nash,

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>> I

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>> Mr. Vison,

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>> I mayor Cobb,

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>> I and the motion is adopted. A

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communication from the city attorney

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requesting that city council convene in

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a closed meeting to consult with legal

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counsel regarding a certain legal matter

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requiring the provision of legal advice

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by the city attorney concerning contract

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obligations involving a city-owned

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facility in the central part of the city

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of Rono pursuant to section 2.2-3711A8

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code of Virginia is amended. I'll

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entertain a motion and second, please.

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>> So moved. [snorts]

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>> Second.

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>> Thank you, council members Hagen and

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Bison. Madame clerk, will you please

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call the role?

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>> Miss Powers.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Hagen.

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>> Hi.

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>> Miss Sanchez Jones.

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>> Vice Mayor Maguire.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Nash.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Volison.

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>> Hi.

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>> And Mayor Cobb.

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>> I. The motion is adopted. And lastly, a

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communication from the city manager

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requesting that city council convene in

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a closed meeting to discuss or consider

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the disposition of publicly held real

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property in the northwest area of the

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city where discussion in an open meeting

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would adversely affect the bargaining

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position or negotiating strategy of the

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public body pursuant to section

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2.2-3711A3

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code of Virginia as amended. I'll

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entertain a motion and second please.

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>> I moved the motion.

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>> Second.

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>> Thank you. Council members Powers and

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Bolison. Madame Clerk, will you please

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call the role?

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>> Miss Powers.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Hagen.

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>> Hi.

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>> Miss Sanchez Jones. Vice Mayor

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Magcguire.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Nash.

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>> Hi.

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>> Mr. Volison.

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>> Hi.

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>> And Mayor Cobb.

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>> Hi. And the motion is adopted. At this

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time, I'm going to recess our council

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meeting and turn the meeting over to

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Vice Mayor McGuire, who also chairs our

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legislative committee.

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>> Thank you, Mayor.

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I will call to order the October 5th

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meeting of the Rono City Legislative

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Committee

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and ask our clerk to please call the

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role.

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>> Mr. Hagen

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>> here.

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>> Miss Sanchez Jones

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>> here.

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>> Mayor Cobb

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Nash

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Volison

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>> here.

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>> Miss Powers

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00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,400
>> here.

554
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,440
>> Miss Appel

555
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,400
>> here.

556
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,520
>> Mr. Kaknes

557
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,640
>> here.

558
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,080
>> And Chairman Magcguire

559
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480
>> here.

560
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,320
>> Thank you all for being here today. Um,

561
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,200
I'm going to quickly run through uh the

562
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,799
agenda and then I hope we can jump right

563
00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:07,039
in. We will be joined again by uh

564
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,880
Clayton Cox and Scott Binkley, our

565
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,720
federal legislative

566
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,640
advocates. Uh we'll hear from Mr.

567
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,520
Winters regarding one of the housing uh

568
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,440
items.

569
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,200
Perhaps turn it over, get an update from

570
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,039
our RCPS friends if they'd like to share

571
00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:22,640
anything. But the goal for today is

572
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,160
going to be uh getting this draft

573
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720
document that everyone on council has a

574
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,799
copy of. Um if anyone in the audience

575
00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:32,799
does not but would like to follow along

576
00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:34,880
I have extra copies we can pass that to

577
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,240
you. Um what we are working to finalize

578
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,240
are our top priorities for the

579
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240
legislative agenda and then under each

580
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bucket

581
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,159
uh there are also positions. The idea is

582
00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:49,360
that we will have a final

583
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,120
one pager that lists all of our top

584
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,960
priorities very similar I hope to the

585
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,400
very nice document that our friends at

586
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,880
RCPS put together. We will then have a

587
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document that includes all of our

588
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positions and then we will have a

589
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,360
document that we will use on our side um

590
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that includes all of the um code

591
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,880
amendment language so that when we're

592
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meeting with our legislative officials

593
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and they say, "Well, what does this

594
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mean? You want to support legislation to

595
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,039
allow localities to establish anti-rink

596
00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:16,799
gouging ordinances or whatever." we will

597
00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:18,960
have um our talking points, but I don't

598
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,600
want um I want to keep to based off of

599
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,280
the feedback from our delegates and our

600
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,520
senator and our lobbyists that we uh

601
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400
keep this to a one-page document. So,

602
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,679
that's the goal. At the end of this

603
00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,200
meeting, I hope to turn this over to the

604
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,320
city attorney, the city manager's office

605
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,480
uh and Mr. Bryant and his team to

606
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,480
finesse this and turn it into a final

607
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document that is ready for us to approve

608
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,039
at our next meeting. What we have to do

609
00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:45,440
today is we can go through I believe we

610
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,360
have consensus on a number of the top

611
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,039
priorities. Right now we have I think

612
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,520
five. Delegate Rousul was clear and

613
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840
asking us to keep this to three to six.

614
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,400
So five I think is right there in that.

615
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,039
Um I'm going to go through each of these

616
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:00,880
uh and we can discuss those. If we have

617
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,799
consensus I'll put a check mark where we

618
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:05,120
don't. We should have discussion

619
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,200
and then on any items that have been

620
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,120
recently added we received feedback on

621
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,000
Friday and over the weekend. um from

622
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,360
staff and the mayor. So there are a

623
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:14,640
couple of items in here that are in

624
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,200
italics. Uh these are not uh

625
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,120
these are suggested. So therefore

626
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,440
discussion today, their inclusion in

627
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,919
this in italics does not guarantee or

628
00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:27,360
indicate that they are going to be in

629
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,360
the final. I'm adding them here for the

630
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,120
group's discussion because I have not

631
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,799
had a chance to review them and council

632
00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,400
has not had a chance to review them. So

633
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,640
this is our opportunity.

634
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,320
So, to jump right in before I start,

635
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,159
does anyone have any um Oh, and I'll

636
00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:42,240
also say um I'm not I'm gonna make uh

637
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,440
Miss Keeny, let me know if I need a

638
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,679
motion um to approve our minutes at the

639
00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:47,520
next meeting.

640
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,159
>> Need a motion.

641
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:49,440
>> Okay, great. Thank you. We'll do that at

642
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,360
the next meeting.

643
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,799
Does anyone have any questions about

644
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:58,630
this before we jump in?

645
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,360
Okay, great. Well, the first uh item on

646
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,480
the list was housing. Our priority ask

647
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,400
is uh well actually I'll yeah I'll do

648
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,840
this and then we can turn it over to our

649
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,760
friends on the phone. I don't know the

650
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,240
best way to jump through this. Um the

651
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,080
first item is housing. We are seeking

652
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,480
reintroduction of HB181 which would

653
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,919
allow the creation of affordable

654
00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:22,240
dwelling unit program. Uh this is a

655
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,080
state program. We need action from the

656
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,480
state to allow Rono to be added to that

657
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,880
list. There was a bill put forward last

658
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,400
year. uh there is a study uh to look at

659
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,280
this that is being conducted right now.

660
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,919
This cannot pass if it is not uh we this

661
00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:39,520
cannot take effect if it's not acted on

662
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,520
again in this session. So if this

663
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,120
remains our priority, we have to include

664
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,360
it. The caveat here is that the bill

665
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,679
last year called for a study to look at

666
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,320
what this would um what this would mean

667
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240
for Ronoke. That study does not come out

668
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720
until November. So I'll turn it over if

669
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,400
anyone uh would like to say anything

670
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,840
about the housing piece of this. I'm

671
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,679
just not sure how that intersects

672
00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:01,120
directly that we won't get the results

673
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,600
of the housing study until November, but

674
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,880
we're asking to put this on our

675
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200
legislative agenda right now. So, that's

676
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,720
the only piece I'm not sure of on the

677
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,880
housing priority. So, I'd open that up

678
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,269
for discussion and clarification.

679
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:16,400
» Vice Mayor,

680
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720
>> Mr.

681
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,080
November, like next month,

682
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,400
>> correct?

683
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,520
>> Okay. Not the

684
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,640
>> Yeah, not 27.

685
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,400
>> I was worried that's what they were

686
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,760
thinking. I know that this has been a

687
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,440
the study has been a contentious part of

688
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,400
this whole legislative part of it. Um I

689
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159
think what I' I've heard is that they're

690
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:34,960
going to be looking at uh what this

691
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,799
program has done in other localities and

692
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:38,720
then also looking at what Richmond has

693
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,240
done in their area

694
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,120
>> which seems to be um favored by the the

695
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,400
homebuilders.

696
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,640
>> Um I would just suggest that we also

697
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,840
reach out to the homebuilders

698
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,960
association uh about this issue. Mhm.

699
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,279
>> Um but I definitely think that uh this

700
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:54,799
is something we've heard from the the

701
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:56,559
citizens on multiple times that they

702
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,760
would like to um

703
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,520
to have an affordable dwelling unit

704
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,799
program here in the city and I think

705
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,440
it's worth being a priority yet again.

706
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,880
>> Thank you, Mr. Bison. Before I turn it

707
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,559
to Mr. Hagen, I agree. The question

708
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,039
though is how do we uh handle the study

709
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:12,559
not being out yet and the inclusion of

710
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,320
this item on our legislative agenda, Mr.

711
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,799
Hagen?

712
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,240
>> Which was what exactly what I was going

713
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,000
to point out. like I would be con like

714
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480
I'm in favor of this in general but if

715
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480
the studies suggest that hey this may

716
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960
not be a good idea we won't know that

717
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,520
until um November or if it is you know

718
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,360
neither good nor bad then we are going

719
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,120
to have to weigh it. So that would be a

720
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,960
question if it's not necessarily

721
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,440
supportive but kind of a neutral stance

722
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,200
on the report. So that's the only

723
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,039
concern that I would have about

724
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,000
approving it pending um any sort of

725
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,440
review by this body. How about uh we

726
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
just remove that last pending a

727
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,400
supportive recommendation. Um you know I

728
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,240
think even if it uh I think we can

729
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,799
approve it today and if we need to if it

730
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,720
does come out in a negative form or that

731
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,480
we find some reason not to try and

732
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480
continue to go forward with this that we

733
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,279
can amend it uh at a future meeting. But

734
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,360
I do think that this is an important uh

735
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,159
legislation and uh delegate Rul is the

736
00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:14,080
one pushing it and if you don't get

737
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,760
support from the locality then how are

738
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240
we going to expect the state to take us

739
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,440
seriously about this this ask?

740
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,200
>> I'll turn it over to Mr. Winter if he

741
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,440
has any thoughts. I think what Mr. Vison

742
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,360
is suggesting is that we leave this

743
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,320
included uh and if we don't get a

744
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480
positive recommendation from the study

745
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,240
that we would amend the legislative

746
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,760
agenda sometime later this fall. All

747
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,440
right. Thank you very much. I'm open to

748
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,720
that. Mr. Winter, do you want to share

749
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,520
anything?

750
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,440
>> Sure. What I'd like to do is uh take you

751
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,159
through a presentation. Um I think given

752
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:48,080
our TV audience kind of give a little

753
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,520
bit of background about HB 181 um as

754
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,120
well as uh toward the end of the

755
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,720
presentation kind of give you an update

756
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,120
as to where we are uh working on the

757
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,480
study. Okay. Um I did uh give you a

758
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
update on the presentation. I made some

759
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
slight tweaks to the presentation. U it

760
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440
is there in content pretty much but you

761
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600
know just some uh so you have the

762
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,880
updated version. and I can be sure that

763
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:20,310
you get an electronic copy.

764
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720
So, good morning, Vice Mayor Maguire,

765
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
chair of this legislative committee,

766
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,679
Mayor Cobb, members of city council,

767
00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:29,679
Miss Turner,

768
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,279
city manager, and other guests of the

769
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,440
legislative committee. My presentation

770
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,919
this morning is a general overview of

771
00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,080
the Virginia General Assembly House Bill

772
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,640
181, an ordinance for the purpose of

773
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,480
developing an affordable dwelling unit

774
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,350
program in the city of Rona.

775
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,200
My presentation this morning will walk

776
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,279
you through these six presentation

777
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,080
topics. A brief background of Virginia

778
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Bill House Bill 181. An overview of the

779
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,480
bill. The primary two features or

780
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,279
purposes that shape the scope of work.

781
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,039
The analytical framework in which we are

782
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,520
working under. In essence, the maximum

783
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000
possible benefit or capacity to produce

784
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,520
ADUs,

785
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,760
a review of the scope of work being done

786
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,320
to complete the study required by the

787
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,559
Virginia General Assembly, and what we

788
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:23,990
have accomplished to date.

789
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,279
In 2026, the 2026 session of the

790
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,679
Virginia General Assembly, legislators

791
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:33,679
enacting HB 181 to add the city of Rono

792
00:28:33,679 --> 00:28:36,559
to the list of localities authorized to

793
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,720
adopt an affordable housing dwelling

794
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,760
unit ADU program. The bill was sponsored

795
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,480
by delegate Sam Rasul and approved by

796
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,200
the governor on April 13, 2026 with

797
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,720
conditions

798
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
that the with the following condition

799
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,240
that Virginia housing analyze the

800
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,080
capacity of an ADU program for Rono.

801
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,000
will be the seventh community to

802
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120
have an ADU program if approved. Other

803
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360
communities improve improve other

804
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,159
communities include Alberal and Lowden

805
00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:08,399
County, Alexandria, Charlottesville,

806
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:11,279
Fairfax, and false church.

807
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,120
There was an amendment to the bill

808
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,679
requiring Virginia Housing

809
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:17,760
to analyze the capacity of an ADU

810
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
program for Rono.

811
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Virginia Housing

812
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,799
contacted the city of Rono and the

813
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,559
consensus between Virginia Housing and

814
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:29,039
the city of Ronok was to work with

815
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,799
Virginia Housing was to contract with

816
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,840
the Virginia Housing Research Center who

817
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840
also partnered with Housing First in

818
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,590
order to do the study.

819
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,640
The passage of HB181 gives Rono specific

820
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360
authority to establish an ADU program by

821
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,120
amending its zoning ordinance to allow

822
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,919
for the development of ADUs. The general

823
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:54,720
assembly also passed House Bill 867

824
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,480
which expands the authority to all

825
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,559
localities by July 1, 2027.

826
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,320
The expanded bill HB867

827
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,600
expounds more on HB81 to address lot

828
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000
size, establishment of an affordable

829
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720
housing trust, conversion of commercial

830
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,039
space to multif family housing, and

831
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:16,799
financial incentives for ADU

832
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:20,399
development. It is my understanding that

833
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:23,840
although HB861 go 867 goes into effect

834
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240
July 1227,

835
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Rono is the test for HB181 for eventual

836
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:41,430
implementation by other localities.

837
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,360
The scope and eventual study is shaped

838
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880
by two things. First analysis of HB181

839
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,320
for the provision of affordable housing

840
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,440
in Rono and secondly the trigger of the

841
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320
reenactment clause which evidence of the

842
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,000
study for the Virginia housing general

843
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
assembly to for the reenactment

844
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,360
decision. In essence the study will help

845
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,640
tweak the bill and eventual passage

846
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,880
based on the information that they uh

847
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,320
discovered in the study when it's

848
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,710
completed.

849
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880
As stated previously, Virginia Housing

850
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,120
has engaged Virginia Center for Housing

851
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Research at Virginia Tech.

852
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,590
Thank you.

853
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000
In collaboration with Housing uh Forward

854
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Virginia to support the statutoily

855
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,159
required analysis and to produce a

856
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:37,840
deliverable suite achieving the

857
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,640
following three things. inform the

858
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,440
reenactment decision. Support Royal

859
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,480
Oak's eventual program design. Contri

860
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,279
contribute method methodology to the

861
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,360
best practice documentation that can

862
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
benefit other Virginia communities

863
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,630
considering an ADU unit ADU program.

864
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,360
The analytical framework. The analytical

865
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,519
framework for the study in essence will

866
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,919
hopefully produce the following. Project

867
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,720
projected unit production will produce

868
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,279
the following pardon me. Projected unit

869
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,480
production, depth of affordability,

870
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,799
durability of affordability,

871
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,200
geographic distribution, [snorts]

872
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,159
developer uptake, alignment of unit mix

873
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:26,640
with documented housing needs or goals,

874
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
and the administrative feasibility of

875
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,267
the program.

876
00:32:31,267 --> 00:32:34,070
[snorts]

877
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,399
Excuse me. The scope of work that

878
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,399
Virginia Center for Housing Research

879
00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:40,559
will conduct consists of these seven

880
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,057
task and deliverables.

881
00:32:43,057 --> 00:32:45,760
[snorts] Task one, policy and statutory

882
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,720
review. The the deliverable policy and

883
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000
statutory memo as authored by Virginia

884
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,039
Housing. Um

885
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,080
task number two, RO housing market gap

886
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
analysis. Task number three, ADU

887
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,880
exchange calibration analysis. This is

888
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,159
one of the things that I'm pretty much

889
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:06,240
looking forward to because it allows us

890
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,480
with an Excel spreadsheet to put a lot

891
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,159
of data into that information to kind of

892
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,080
see what it comes up with. So, we're

893
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240
looking forward to that. Task number

894
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,480
four, additional documentation and best

895
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,080
practices.

896
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,000
Task number five, stakeholder

897
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,480
engagement. Task number six,

898
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,039
implementation, capacity assessment.

899
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,039
Task number seven, program design,

900
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,880
recommendations, and final summary

901
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,679
findings. All these have deliverables.

902
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:33,840
Um they're in your packet that we'll be

903
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,279
looking forward to when the study is

904
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:49,110
completed.

905
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,799
the combined program design and the

906
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,720
final summary of the findings memo

907
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,279
delivered to the city of Ronoke and

908
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,320
Virginia housing by October 30th and

909
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120
Virginia housing delivering of the

910
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,960
report to the Virginia housing committee

911
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,679
on November 1st. So we get a report at

912
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:08,000
the end of October in which in turn the

913
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,079
uh consultants that we are working with

914
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,919
will also deliver that program to

915
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,760
Virginia housing. Virginia Houser will

916
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,040
in turn because they're the ones that

917
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520
are tasked with doing the uh the study,

918
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,879
they will then report this to the

919
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:29,109
general general assembly committee

920
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,200
accomplishments.

921
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,760
The city of Ron economic de e economic

922
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,679
development department and the office of

923
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,760
housing and neighborhood services have

924
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,760
been meeting and strategizing with

925
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,159
Virginia center for housing research to

926
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,480
complete the study.

927
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,879
The following are our accomplishments to

928
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:51,280
date. September 9th kickoff meeting.

929
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,119
Virginia Center for Housing Research at

930
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,320
Virginia Tech, Housing Ford Virginia,

931
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,160
City of Ron Nook Department of Economic

932
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,079
Development, and the Office of Housing

933
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,760
and Neighborhood Services. This was our

934
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,839
initial kickoff that we had uh in order

935
00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:05,200
to kind of see what the scope was about

936
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,640
and how we would move forward with an

937
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,839
with a timeline of activities.

938
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:12,720
September 18th, meeting with nonprofit

939
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,280
developers, Habitat for Humanity,

940
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,200
Renovation Alliance, Restoration

941
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680
Housing, Ron Oak Development and Housing

942
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Authority, Total Action for Progress.

943
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Actually, Ron Oak development and

944
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:25,440
housing authority is not a nonprofit of

945
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,960
course um but they are a stakeholder

946
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,510
kind of considered under that category.

947
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760
September 24th meeting held with the

948
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480
for-profit developers. Over 20

949
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
stakeholders, including for-profit

950
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,720
developers, were on the call with the

951
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,359
consultants. September 30th, meeting

952
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:44,800
with the city of Rono planning

953
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,950
department.

954
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Our next steps,

955
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,240
another run of calls with none um with

956
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,880
none on for-profit developers. Schedule

957
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,560
a meeting with Home Builders

958
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,079
Association.

959
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,119
Focus on deliverables for HB81

960
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,079
deadline of November 1st. Continue the

961
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,880
study as related to HB867 into November

962
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680
and December. This bill will have to be

963
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,640
reintroduced in the 2027 session of the

964
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,550
Virginia General Assembly.

965
00:36:18,555 --> 00:36:18,560
» [snorts]

966
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480
>> So although we received the reports both

967
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,480
in October and November, the consultants

968
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,920
are going to continue because it's such

969
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,280
a lot of data information that they're

970
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,280
putting together for us that we should

971
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,040
receive a final report with

972
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,680
recommendations and implementation

973
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,320
um regarding the ADU program. Hopefully

974
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,640
if it's enacted that we can put together

975
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,640
fairly quickly and we anticipate that

976
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,240
we'll receive that information hopefully

977
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:45,270
by the end of the year.

978
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,440
Oops.

979
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Thank you. Questions winter

980
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,000
>> and I'll rely on my co the legislative

981
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,440
colleagues as well to answer any

982
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,390
questions that you may have.

983
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,475
» Alison,

984
00:37:00,475 --> 00:37:01,920
[laughter]

985
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000
>> yeah, I'm I'm kind of surprised at the

986
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,240
timeline of this study. It seems to be

987
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,359
very um I mean it's only a month to do a

988
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:11,920
study about such an important topic and

989
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,040
important issue uh for both the city and

990
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640
the Commonwealth. Um, I guess that

991
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,359
that's a I'm kind of wondering why it

992
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:23,119
and this may be not a question for you,

993
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,200
Mr. Winter, but for our legislative

994
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,280
friends, as to why it took so long to

995
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,040
get this uh study ready to go uh when it

996
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,200
was enacted back last uh I guess March

997
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,200
would been when it was done. And so

998
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,560
we're just starting it and we're

999
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,880
cramming it into a one-mon period. Um,

1000
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,119
and as somebody who's worked in uh urban

1001
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,680
planning and and data analysis, it's not

1002
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,280
a very long time to deal with all the

1003
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,599
policies and intricacies of what go into

1004
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,440
our housing. And so it may not be a

1005
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,680
question, but more of a comment that um

1006
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,760
I'll be very interested to see what the

1007
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,920
results are of this considering the

1008
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,040
short uh time span uh that there is. I

1009
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480
also wonder wondered if there's any um I

1010
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,079
see that we have stakeholders that are

1011
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:09,760
for-profit developers and nonprofit

1012
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,359
developers. Are there any other

1013
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:14,480
stakeholders that would be um brought

1014
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,800
into this?

1015
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,320
>> If I may, besides the home builders

1016
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,839
association, which we want to talk to,

1017
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,599
we have asked also asked our

1018
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,079
stakeholders to reach out to anyone else

1019
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,000
who they think would be interested in

1020
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,160
this as well. So we're hoping that the

1021
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
next round of meetings that we have that

1022
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640
there'll be more people also um

1023
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,000
including in this meeting and giving

1024
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480
their input regarding the

1025
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,359
>> Is there any um I guess my question is there any uh input from the political

1026
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:44,240
stakeholders as well um because it is a

1027
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:49,760
political uh ask that we are making

1028
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,119
>> absolutely um you know when we were when

1029
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,200
they contacted us we we were pleasantly

1030
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,079
surprised that um we were being included

1031
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,560
um and we owe a lot of uh debt of

1032
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680
gratitude to Delegate Rasul um for that.

1033
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Um so anyone that we can get involved um

1034
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,280
and absolutely I mean it's it's it's

1035
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040
your legislative agenda so we certainly

1036
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,480
would want to make sure that our local

1037
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,160
officials had a voice at the table as

1038
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,390
well.

1039
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,119
» So um and I apologize I'm a little bit

1040
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:26,079
confused. What does H uh H18 um1 do that

1041
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:27,839
HB867

1042
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:29,839
wouldn't

1043
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:30,960
>> just besides adding us?

1044
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,480
>> We we are like the test, [clears throat]

1045
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:32,800
right?

1046
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,440
>> Yeah. Okay.

1047
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,760
>> Okay. And so what that does once they

1048
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
receive the test then it helps to align

1049
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,760
the final bill that's going to be um

1050
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,200
introduced next year. Um

1051
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,880
>> Okay, I see. So it was just creating

1052
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,040
this HB181

1053
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
just creates the study puts us on this

1054
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,359
list but it gets applied to everybody in

1055
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:55,920
Virginia it does anyway with 867

1056
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,320
>> does but we help to frame that study so

1057
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,640
when it gets ready to for reenactment

1058
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,079
for instance the study can say that

1059
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:03,200
there are certain things certain

1060
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,280
capacity uh regarding the bill and I'll

1061
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,680
defer to my legislative um colleagues as

1062
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,480
well

1063
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,040
>> but using an example I listed several

1064
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,160
examples in here lot sizes that study

1065
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,680
would help the Virginia general general

1066
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,119
assembly to determine how they're going

1067
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:18,800
to move forward with with the final

1068
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,440
reenactment of the bill. It is my

1069
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,880
understanding that as they're moving

1070
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,720
forward, what has happened is there

1071
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,880
other communities coming forward as well

1072
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,160
uh in terms of who wants to have this

1073
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,240
done. So this what we are doing in terms

1074
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,240
of the study helps to kind of put all of

1075
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:33,680
that within context. That is my

1076
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,000
understanding.

1077
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,599
>> May I may I um

1078
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,920
>> well yeah sure Mr. Visonson one second.

1079
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,520
I think my question is the same. If

1080
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,960
HB867 has already passed

1081
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,160
>> and [clears throat] it's going to come

1082
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,599
into effect in July 1 of 2027, how would

1083
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,800
our study for HB181 inform a law that's

1084
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,560
already passed and going into effect?

1085
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,839
>> I would defer to my legislative

1086
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:57,520
committees, but that is how I understand

1087
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,640
the process.

1088
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,839
>> Okay, Mr. Bison.

1089
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:02,880
>> So, it's actually SB867.

1090
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,440
It's a state bill that was put in by uh

1091
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,319
I believe Miss Boy and Mr. Bryant, you

1092
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:10,560
can correct me if I'm wrong. Um, but

1093
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,200
it's a Senate bill. So, ours was a House

1094
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
bill that was put in for Rono to be

1095
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,680
added to that list. At the same time, in

1096
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560
the Senate, uh, Miss Boyco, I believe,

1097
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,800
put in this bill, uh, that would make

1098
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,200
every locality in Virginia have the

1099
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,359
ability to do an an affordable dwelling

1100
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,240
unit. They then were both tied to this

1101
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,000
housing study that they're that they're

1102
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,760
doing for Ron Oak. So the decision on

1103
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,400
whether HB81 and H SB867

1104
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040
because they're very much similar and

1105
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,920
that we're asking for ADUs and you know

1106
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,520
this would do it for everybody. They're

1107
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,880
both tied to that same study and so that

1108
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,079
will inform whether u final passage

1109
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:55,680
actually happens.

1110
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640
>> SB 867 passed the legislature.

1111
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,560
>> Yeah. just like HB181 passed the

1112
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,119
legislature, but it's it's contingent

1113
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,640
upon the study that we have.

1114
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,839
>> And so Rowan Oak is like the pilot to

1115
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:11,680
build a statewide model.

1116
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,319
>> So they'll take our statewide model.

1117
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:15,599
>> They're going to implement a bill in

1118
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,920
July and use what we're doing to inform

1119
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,400
that.

1120
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,520
>> Correct. Yes.

1121
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,200
>> Mr. Hagen, does that help?

1122
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,920
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1123
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,750
>> Question. [clears throat]

1124
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,750
Thank you for the clarification.

1125
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,839
» Anyone else have any other questions on

1126
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:37,599
this bill or Mr. Winter's presentation?

1127
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:38,079
>> Mayor,

1128
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,400
>> uh, Vice Mayor, I would I I appreciate

1129
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,800
the context and the presentation. Um,

1130
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,040
and I'm grateful that Ron Oak's uh

1131
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,800
included in this and that we can be a

1132
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,280
pilot for this for the larger

1133
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,440
Commonwealth. I would I would u support

1134
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,560
keeping this as a priority ask uh with

1135
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,319
the understanding that um once we

1136
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:03,599
receive the final report that if if we

1137
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:07,119
need to amend the ask we can do that.

1138
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:08,560
>> Sounds good. I think there's agreement.

1139
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,160
We will move forward then with keeping

1140
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,480
this as our priority ask uh pending

1141
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,160
results of that recommendation that

1142
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,800
we'll get soon and so we'll look to your

1143
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,200
team to keep us informed um on that and

1144
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,119
appreciate your information today. Thank

1145
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:21,440
you.

1146
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,240
>> All right. Thank you.

1147
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:22,960
>> Oh, vice mayor.

1148
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,520
>> Yes, sir.

1149
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,880
>> And I was just going to I was just going

1150
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,119
to add that on October 30th when that

1151
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,520
information comes in if we can make sure

1152
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,240
that council gets that that day as well

1153
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,319
>> because I want to see that.

1154
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:36,240
>> Yeah, I want to see that before Tuesday.

1155
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,640
Oh, not Tuesday. for the second on

1156
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,319
Monday. So,

1157
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:41,760
>> yep. Yes, I think that's a good idea.

1158
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,839
Thank you, Mr. Nash.

1159
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:45,200
>> Thank you again, Mr. Winter.

1160
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,680
>> Thank you.

1161
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,119
>> I'm not going to go through all of the

1162
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:50,000
positions that are um on the housing

1163
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,119
bucket, but if you uh those are none of

1164
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:56,480
those are new uh to as of today. Um so,

1165
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,119
I'll move on to public safety. This is

1166
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,839
also Yes, sir. Mr. Vol. I just wanted to

1167
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,800
just make a note that I feel that um the

1168
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,480
supporting the giving localities more

1169
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,079
tools to address blight and

1170
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,160
non-compliant property owners. I think

1171
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680
that's something that we hear all the

1172
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,920
time from our constituents about and I

1173
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800
would uh want to put that as a priority.

1174
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,920
>> Um I know last time we did a ranking s

1175
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,520
of of our choices and stuff. Um and so I

1176
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,119
just wanted to make clear that that was

1177
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:26,720
something that I think is is a priority

1178
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:27,760
for the city.

1179
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,880
>> Do you think Mr.

1180
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,040
that should take priority over the

1181
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
current priority ask of HB181.

1182
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,319
>> No.

1183
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:35,359
>> So, you want to keep it in the

1184
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:36,240
positions?

1185
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,480
>> I mean, I would I would think that we

1186
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,720
should elevate it to a priority ask, but

1187
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,760
I um you know, I obviously am not the

1188
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,400
council.

1189
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,480
>> Well, the feedback we have received is

1190
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,480
strong strong heavy encouragement to

1191
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,680
have one priority per area. So, if you

1192
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
would like to make uh a motion that we

1193
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,359
have two priorities for housing, I'd be

1194
00:44:57,359 --> 00:44:59,599
glad to entertain that and you can make

1195
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:00,400
the case.

1196
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,720
>> I was just I would make that motion, but

1197
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:03,920
I also see that like under

1198
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,920
transportation we have three asks.

1199
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,280
>> Well, we have to again we're working

1200
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,240
towards that where we're going to

1201
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:09,920
whittle that down to one.

1202
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,040
>> Okay. We're going to put make that to

1203
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,640
one. Okay. All right. Well, then that

1204
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,400
makes sense. I'm happy to continue the

1205
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,079
way we are then if we're just doing one.

1206
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,560
>> Everyone okay with that? All right.

1207
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Thank you so much. Moving along to

1208
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,640
public safety, the priority ask would be

1209
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,079
keeping uh what we asked for last year,

1210
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,040
which was HB11 in 2026. This was

1211
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,560
legislation that would provide those

1212
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,119
under emergency custody order upon

1213
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,520
completion of medical evaluation or care

1214
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,440
with transportation to an approved

1215
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,280
treatment center or return to their

1216
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,280
residents. The idea is this would help

1217
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,119
reunite people with their family and

1218
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:46,720
community and improve their odds of

1219
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,359
recovery while reducing strain on local

1220
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:53,280
government services. Um this is uh was

1221
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,800
important to us last year. Ronut

1222
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Memorial is one of the only uh level one

1223
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,319
trauma facilities in the state. So we

1224
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:01,760
get a lot of folks sent to us under

1225
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,359
emergency custody order that don't

1226
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:05,520
always have resources to get back to

1227
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,040
where they came from. So this is an

1228
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,760
attempt um to uh make sure that there

1229
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,760
are resources for transportation on both

1230
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,160
ends. U Mayor, this was your priority

1231
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,920
last year. I'd be glad to turn it over

1232
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,160
to you if you want to say anything. Um

1233
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,680
yeah, this this took kind of an

1234
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,920
interesting twisty road during the

1235
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,839
general assembly that I didn't quite

1236
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:25,920
fully understand. Uh because this was

1237
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,760
originally to add um this as an

1238
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,079
additional part of a bill that already

1239
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:35,040
exists that's already law uh to provide

1240
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,400
this provision um and to to look at

1241
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,520
potential funding um to help expedite

1242
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,000
this. So I would I would fully support

1243
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,280
the continuence of this as a priority.

1244
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,920
And I think it also addresses

1245
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,760
uh one of the issues we were concerned

1246
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,520
about um that was a contributing factor

1247
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,960
to I wouldn't say a large increase but

1248
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,200
um part of the increase we've seen

1249
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,720
related to homelessness in the

1250
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,720
community. So this would be a way for

1251
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,720
>> Thank you, mayor. I support keeping it

1252
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:12,240
as our um priority ask for 2027 and

1253
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,000
would open it up to feedback from

1254
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
council or city manager or anyone else

1255
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
who would like to say anything or add

1256
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,240
comment.

1257
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,920
If we feel good, we can leave that. I

1258
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,079
think there was agreement on that one.

1259
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:25,839
Okay. I will So, moving ahead, there are

1260
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:27,920
positions under public safety. I will

1261
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,800
note that there are two additions that

1262
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,960
were um that are in italics at the

1263
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
bottom. These were submitted by staff.

1264
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Because they're new, I'll quickly read

1265
00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,560
them. One, support amending the code of

1266
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Virginia to include public safety

1267
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,400
telecommunicators, 911 emergency

1268
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,800
communications officers, and dispatchers

1269
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
among the public safety professionals

1270
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,400
eligible for workers compensation

1271
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040
benefits for work-related post-traumatic

1272
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,440
stress disorder, anxiety disorders, and

1273
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,119
depressive disorders resulting from

1274
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,359
qualifying mental health and traumatic

1275
00:47:57,359 --> 00:47:59,760
events experienced in the line of duty.

1276
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Number two, also related to um E911

1277
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,040
officers support amending Code of

1278
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Virginia to provide those officers the

1279
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400
same legal protections afforded to other

1280
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,240
first responders by including them in

1281
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,160
statutes addressing assaults, threats,

1282
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,839
intimidation, obstruction, and

1283
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:16,079
interference while performing official

1284
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,319
duties. The legislation should establish

1285
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:20,400
enhanced penalties for individuals who

1286
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,880
knowingly assault, threaten, intimidate,

1287
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,559
or otherwise interfere with a public

1288
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,559
safety telecommunicator in the per in

1289
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:27,839
the performance of their official

1290
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:30,960
duties. Um, again, these were uh

1291
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,640
recently added, so they're in italics,

1292
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,720
so we can open them up for feedback or

1293
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,640
any comments from staff or council.

1294
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,839
>> Yes, sir. Mr. Hagen,

1295
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:41,760
>> I think they're both good uh positions

1296
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,839
for us to have as we discuss with our

1297
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:50,640
legislators. Um, just, you know, it's good to have them, but given the uh

1298
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,520
the priority ask it, I think like um

1299
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,040
that it's good to just keep it as

1300
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,640
position.

1301
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Just my two cents.

1302
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,520
Alison.

1303
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,280
>> So, I would consider these two actually

1304
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,440
not new, but a kind of more in-depth

1305
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,800
version of uh two um bullets before

1306
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,319
that, which is supporting the amending

1307
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:10,160
the code of Virginia to include public

1308
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,040
safety telecommunicators. Um it's just

1309
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,319
them stating it in a more uh finite way.

1310
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:18,160
So, I would suggest that we remove that

1311
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,480
previous bullet and leave the two that

1312
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,240
are uh more detailed in.

1313
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:25,680
>> Thank you, Mr. Fison. I'll note that.

1314
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,200
And what we're going to do with this uh

1315
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,559
because these are new additions and

1316
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:30,720
we're um discussing them and digesting

1317
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,200
them today is uh we will I'm going to

1318
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,480
run these through the city manager's

1319
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,839
office and the city attorney's office

1320
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:38,000
again just to make sure there's no um

1321
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,520
duplicative language and that everything

1322
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,559
in here is uh worded appropriately. So I

1323
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:43,760
think that's a good suggestion. Thank

1324
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,119
you, Mr. Bison.

1325
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,280
Anything else on those two new

1326
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,119
positions?

1327
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,599
>> Okay. Yes, ma'am. I will make a comment

1328
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,920
on the um 911 the added ones. I have um

1329
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,040
heard that there are some other

1330
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,040
localities doing this.

1331
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,319
>> So we wouldn't you know it's looks like

1332
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:07,200
it's going to get at it with some other

1333
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,359
localities. I wish I could remember

1334
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:10,720
which ones told me they were going to do

1335
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,559
it, but I remember

1336
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,119
>> and I I'll jump and share an idea that I

1337
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,559
had when I was kind of reviewing some of

1338
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,960
this over the weekend in that, you know,

1339
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,599
we have like VML and I would be

1340
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,240
interested to see how much of what we

1341
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:28,400
have listed here VML are already

1342
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,559
planning on perhaps lobbying and

1343
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:34,160
advocating for and where there's, you

1344
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,400
know, the, you know, the the

1345
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
similarities between what we have here

1346
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,000
and what they're going to be working on.

1347
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,920
Then we can just, you know, have Brian

1348
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,079
or whoever, right? Kind of work with VML

1349
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,160
as we go up there. But

1350
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,839
>> is anybody going to the VML conference

1351
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:48,960
this weekend?

1352
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,079
>> Okay. Then I would suggest that you

1353
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:53,520
that's where that's where those things

1354
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,280
get worked out is at conferences. They

1355
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,960
do the the policy work in the

1356
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,160
summertime.

1357
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,720
>> Yeah.

1358
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,680
>> I'm glad to see where the crosssections

1359
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,079
are.

1360
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,119
>> Yeah. I mean, because I would be

1361
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:04,880
interested to see, you know, where we

1362
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,480
can maybe lighten our load a little bit

1363
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,680
because this thing is getting kind of

1364
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,680
thick and if we can reduce some of this

1365
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,280
um and you know, and they have their own

1366
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,119
lobbyist and their own kind of levers

1367
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:16,960
that they're pulling on. Um it might

1368
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,319
just be more efficient for um our city's

1369
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,720
lobbyists if we can kind of reduce this

1370
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,480
a little bit and and share some of these

1371
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,160
priorities with BML.

1372
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,760
>> Yeah, I think that's a good suggestion.

1373
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,319
Thank you, Mr. Nash. Moving [cough]

1374
00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,640
on to economic development, we have a

1375
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,920
suggested uh new priority ask for 2027.

1376
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,079
I'll read it off and then I will let um

1377
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:41,839
our mayor, if you would like, or anyone

1378
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:43,520
else from the city manager's office say

1379
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,960
a word about that or staff broadly. Uh,

1380
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
under economic development, support a

1381
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,000
$17.5 million state investment in the

1382
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,480
2027 general assembly session to

1383
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,480
complete detailed planning for Radford

1384
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,720
University's new Rono academic health

1385
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,119
sciences building, positioning Rono to

1386
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,960
educate more health care professionals

1387
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,040
and address health workforce shortages

1388
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,359
across Virginia, particularly in rural

1389
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:10,079
and underserved communities.

1390
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,720
So, I would open that up for um

1391
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:14,079
discussion. Mayor, if you'd like to

1392
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,319
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor. Um, so I handed

1393
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:18,960
out to all of you a couple of items that

1394
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,559
give a lot more more thorough detail on

1395
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,319
this new academic health sciences

1396
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,559
building. Uh, for those who may not be

1397
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,359
aware, um, Bradford is in the early

1398
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:34,160
stages of design for this um, and is

1399
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
advocating through the general assembly

1400
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,800
for state funding to support this

1401
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,079
effort. Um

1402
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:44,640
there was a similar effort that that was

1403
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,480
completed with um uh Virginia Tech

1404
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Currillian School of Medicine for their

1405
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,720
uh expansion or actually their building

1406
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,040
of a new campus and 5 million of that

1407
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,040
was part of the construction pool budget

1408
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,440
this last year. uh in meeting with

1409
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,240
President Denilowitz and some of the

1410
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,119
leadership um because this is such a

1411
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,440
significant investment not only in the

1412
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,920
city of Rowan Oak but in our region and

1413
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,800
because it focuses u all of their health

1414
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,079
sciences into one primary location with

1415
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,200
an emphasis on rural health um and which

1416
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,119
is also critical for the region that

1417
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,000
we're in. I wanted to recommend that we

1418
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,920
support this. Uh this will be a

1419
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680
multi-year process with the general

1420
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,400
assembly. Um and that's why I wanted you

1421
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,319
all to have the additional information

1422
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:34,800
about what will be included in this

1423
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,680
center. Um just to share with you the

1424
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,079
kind of summary ask I sent you a more

1425
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,280
extensive one earlier that talks about

1426
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,720
um what this facility will include which

1427
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,520
is uh modern instructional laboratory

1428
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,040
simulation and collaborative learning

1429
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,359
spaces needed to educate more health

1430
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:54,800
care professionals for the commonwealth.

1431
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,640
So this is going to be a big boost to

1432
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,880
our healthc care workforce pathway

1433
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,920
and uh it will be in uh located in our

1434
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,559
innovation corridor which is another key

1435
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,720
aspect and um as I said will support um

1436
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,640
Radford University center for rural

1437
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,200
health. Um so I would just offer that to

1438
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,520
you. um glad to try and answer any

1439
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,400
additional questions and if helpful I I

1440
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
would be glad to work with the manager

1441
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,440
to reach out to President Denilowitz um

1442
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,359
for a more thorough presentation for

1443
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:29,280
council on this. This is going to be an

1444
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,030
ongoing project.

1445
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,800
» Thank you, Vice Mayor McGuire and our

1446
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,960
teams have already been meeting um with

1447
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,760
Bradford. Um this is going to be a

1448
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,599
phenomenal addition um as the mayor

1449
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,000
stated to our innovation corridor. So

1450
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,079
anything that we can do obviously to

1451
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,640
assist them um we'd be happy to do so

1452
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,800
but um our team both economic

1453
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,000
development planning building and

1454
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,920
development we have already been meeting

1455
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,000
to ensure that they have a path forward

1456
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,640
as they're moving into the city.

1457
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,319
>> Very much so I think I heard but just to

1458
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:01,520
confirm you guys are comfortable with

1459
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,440
this as our top economic development

1460
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,319
priority as well.

1461
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:07,920
>> Well yes Mr. Vison

1462
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,000
>> I just had one question um and this was

1463
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,559
probably from Radford University. I'm

1464
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,280
just uh kind of surprised at the the

1465
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,559
high ask for design um because normally

1466
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:21,040
I don't see you know design asks that

1467
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,559
large and so just wondering what that's

1468
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,079
broken down into.

1469
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,160
>> I I'll pass that on and share with you

1470
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,920
all what I learned. Okay. I think it

1471
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,440
would also be helpful if we could get

1472
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,160
them here.

1473
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,599
>> Yeah, absolutely. You know, I'd love to

1474
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:32,079
have a present

1475
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,800
>> even before the general assembly perhaps

1476
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,839
in November uh to do a president. We

1477
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:38,880
could take you up on that. I think

1478
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,200
that's a great idea. I will extend that

1479
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:41,920
invitation.

1480
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,680
>> Thank you very much.

1481
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,720
>> Um well, I am comfortable leaving this

1482
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,160
here as our priority ask per um support

1483
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,799
from our economic development team and

1484
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:54,799
our city manager's office um and the

1485
00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:57,119
mayor's research and support. Does

1486
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:58,720
anyone have any questions? Are we

1487
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,960
comfortable with this or Yes, sir. Mr.

1488
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,440
Nash.

1489
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,240
>> I'm comfortable with it. I just, you

1490
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:05,200
know, the wording [clears throat] in the

1491
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,400
last part of it where it's like

1492
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,480
positioning Rono to educate more health

1493
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,319
care professionals,

1494
00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:13,119
you know, I would I would change Rono to

1495
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,440
Rafford University because like it's not

1496
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,599
like we like that what I'm trying to say

1497
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:22,079
>> like we're not educating anyone like

1498
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,960
we're letting them build a non-t taxable

1499
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,359
structure um in the innovation corridor

1500
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:28,880
and then they're doing the work of

1501
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,200
educating folks. So I don't think we

1502
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,520
should say Ron to educate more. You

1503
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,799
know, we're not I mean I don't know how

1504
00:56:34,799 --> 00:56:36,480
many people are even CPR certified, you

1505
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,160
know what I mean? So I wouldn't say

1506
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,144
we're educating anyone. I would

1507
00:56:40,144 --> 00:56:41,520
[clears throat] say to support Rafford

1508
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,799
in their pursuit to educate more

1509
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:47,200
professionals and health care workforce,

1510
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,319
you know, to address the health care

1511
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:51,680
workforce shortage across,

1512
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,359
you know, underserved communities

1513
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:54,799
because I think rural healthc care is

1514
00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:56,240
going to look a lot different here for

1515
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,680
the next few years with a lot of the

1516
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,319
federal uh legislation and bills that

1517
00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:05,040
are going on right now. So, but I would

1518
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,720
just change that. I just don't think it

1519
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,240
reads well and and you know closes that

1520
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,599
up that ask up nicely.

1521
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,280
>> Well, thank you for that suggestion and

1522
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,799
again we'll take that I wrote that down

1523
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:19,920
and we will be giving this to um Mr.

1524
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,599
Bryant's side and the city attorney city

1525
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,119
manager's office to get a um like an

1526
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:24,960
updated

1527
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,440
uh rewarding of this. So if uh we'll

1528
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,720
make sure that that's shared with all of

1529
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,599
council and uh if you see something that

1530
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:33,200
doesn't look like it meets that

1531
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,720
suggestion just let us know. But yeah,

1532
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,160
this is not the final wording. Thank you

1533
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,160
for that comment.

1534
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Um,

1535
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,280
there are a number of positions under

1536
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,720
economic development. I won't read

1537
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,359
through each of those, but I will

1538
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:48,240
note uh Mr. Vol inquired about inclusion

1539
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,240
of the Rono Valley Alageney Regional

1540
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,040
Commission 2027 legislative agenda. Um,

1541
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,799
that's included.

1542
00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:56,240
Were there any questions or comments

1543
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,240
about the other positions under economic

1544
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,630
development?

1545
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,280
Okay. Um, thank you. Moving on to

1546
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,079
transportation. Um, we would ideally

1547
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,119
find a one priority ask for this. If we

1548
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,200
can't, then maybe we revisit Mr. Volison

1549
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,640
suggestion that we have two priorities

1550
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,040
for other areas. Um, but what we are

1551
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,319
looking at are uh three asks. The

1552
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:22,480
support funding for the airport terminal

1553
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,799
upgrades, support funding for airport

1554
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:26,799
expansion feasibility and impact

1555
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:28,400
studies. Those were two different um

1556
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,185
buckets of money and requests.

1557
00:58:30,185 --> 00:58:31,520
[clears throat] and then support funding

1558
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,920
to deliver an Amtrak station in downtown

1559
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,599
Rono. Um, I will just kick it off and

1560
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,720
say that I was supportive of including

1561
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,799
uh or having the Amtrak station be our

1562
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:45,599
priority ask and my thinking behind that

1563
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,119
was that it would have tremendous

1564
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,720
benefit to us to Reano City um directly.

1565
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,799
Uh there are no other entities that I'm

1566
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:55,839
aware of uh fighting for that for us. uh

1567
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:58,720
whereas the airport uh has every

1568
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,160
neighboring locality uh very uh involved

1569
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,280
and lobbying and very active and it's a

1570
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,040
clearly stated priority for us and is

1571
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,520
included um in the Alageney Regional

1572
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Commission agenda which we say we

1573
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,319
support. So um that was my thinking on

1574
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:17,280
that but of course we are a body so we

1575
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,640
have to figure that out come to

1576
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,240
consensus. Um so I'll open it up to

1577
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,319
comment on that.

1578
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:26,400
I'll start with Miss Powers.

1579
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,640
>> So, I just used um the train this

1580
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,280
weekend. We took the train to Manasses.

1581
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,200
So, we had to be downtown very early

1582
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,119
Saturday morning and of course it was

1583
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,599
raining and so I think this is very

1584
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,799
important. I heard so many um

1585
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:44,079
complaints. Um no place to sit, no

1586
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,960
building to go in, no bathrooms nearby.

1587
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,559
So, I really think this is very

1588
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:52,319
important. And the train was sold out.

1589
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:55,760
So we were packed and uh so I think this

1590
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,559
is very important to move up especially

1591
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,520
um the other places that we went um you

1592
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,200
know they they had a station um so I I

1593
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,160
think for economic reasons as well this

1594
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,920
will really help um our reo

1595
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,960
Mr. Alison.

1596
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,400
>> Um so this past week the uh regional

1597
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,640
commission met with um delegate Russul

1598
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,079
um and we had previously met with

1599
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:27,920
delegate Austin. Um their suggestion on

1600
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:34,319
the um the uh airport uh ask is that we

1601
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:37,040
strike the um airport expansion

1602
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,440
feasibility and impact study. Uh they

1603
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,119
believe that is a more of a federal ask

1604
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,680
than it is a state ask. Mhm.

1605
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,799
>> Um they also supported the $40 million

1606
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:49,200
number that we put into the regional

1607
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,119
commission. I would suggest that we do

1608
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,440
that as well. Um and I would suggest

1609
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,119
that it still continue to be a priority

1610
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:56,799
and I do think this is a place where we

1611
01:00:56,799 --> 01:00:58,960
might need to say we have two priorities

1612
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,559
here. um because the uh a lot of that

1613
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,799
lobbying seems to be coming to a head

1614
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:06,160
and that there might be a strong

1615
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,119
possibility of if we do a capital ask

1616
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,520
that it gets into this budget whereas if

1617
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,040
we're asking for a study or something

1618
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,319
like that it may not. Um the other thing

1619
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:19,280
with the Amtrak station uh I'm a huge

1620
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,559
proponent of it think that it would be

1621
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,880
great to have our station and have been

1622
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,119
asking on the TPO you know when is this

1623
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:26,559
happening and we're finally at that

1624
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:28,880
point where Amtrak wants us to build it.

1625
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,079
Um, do we have numbers for that? I think

1626
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,160
it's best when we're making these asks

1627
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,799
to say, hey, you know, right now we're

1628
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:38,880
at this point in the project, which may

1629
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,280
be like design and feasibility. I'm not

1630
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,720
sure. U Mandy, if you know where we are

1631
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,342
on the Amtrak station at all.

1632
01:01:47,342 --> 01:01:47,839
[clears throat]

1633
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,839
>> Miss Crib, would you I think you've been

1634
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:50,640
called forward.

1635
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:51,760
>> Happen to be here.

1636
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,680
>> Um, yeah. So public works has kind of an

1637
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,799
rough estimate budget and so we have the

1638
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:01,440
preliminary engineering marked at about

1639
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,040
300,000 and then full construction. Um

1640
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,799
they have they have a budget breakdown

1641
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:09,599
is about 20 mil and if we consider the

1642
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:13,359
1.8 that we have set aside is like match

1643
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:18,799
so like maybe like 19 mil ask instead of

1644
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:22,160
that 20 but that's where we're at. So if

1645
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,599
we include we do have some numbers that

1646
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:25,040
we could attach to.

1647
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,599
>> Yeah. Okay.

1648
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:26,720
>> Yeah, we can send those over.

1649
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,559
>> I think that would be helpful. Very very

1650
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:30,640
helpful. Okay. But I do think that um

1651
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,119
you know even though uh we have a lot of

1652
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,559
partners that are supporting the

1653
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:36,640
airport, we are where the airport is

1654
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,480
located. And if we they don't have buyin

1655
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,040
from the locality, they're not going to

1656
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,599
uh override the locality with everybody

1657
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,920
else. And it's kind of what we saw with

1658
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:51,359
the casino in in uh Fairfax and kind of

1659
01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:53,359
>> appreciate your perspective. I think we

1660
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:55,280
would just to clarify we that we would

1661
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,799
still be demonstrating our buy in and

1662
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:58,799
support by keeping it in our positions

1663
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:00,640
and as a priority. So I wouldn't suggest

1664
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,720
that we take out um supporting funding

1665
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,960
for airport terminal upgrades, but I I

1666
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,599
hear your your suggestion.

1667
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,040
Anyone else want to discuss this?

1668
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,720
>> Mr. [clears throat]

1669
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:10,960
Hill.

1670
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,119
>> Yes, sir. Mr. Nash.

1671
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:16,720
>> Nash. H, [laughter] excuse me, Hagen.

1672
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,760
>> Three different uh folks there. Um,

1673
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,000
yeah, I'm inclined to be more supportive

1674
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,240
of the airport terminal upgrades with

1675
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,359
that funding. Um, just because first

1676
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:29,359
off, like the amount of money which the

1677
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:32,480
airport brings into our region. Um, you

1678
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,960
know, the reality is is that while, you

1679
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,599
know, I am very much am aware of how

1680
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:41,280
much we need the Amtrak station. I use

1681
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,200
Amtrak as much as I can. Um, right now I

1682
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,359
would be more inclined with the airport

1683
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:49,200
just to get that done and make sure that

1684
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,520
that's in the budget because they are uh

1685
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,039
they're redoing the budget this year.

1686
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:55,119
Correct. So that's one of the things

1687
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:58,000
that I think that we can um leverage

1688
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,720
that and then be able to utilize some

1689
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,119
funding um elsewhere. Not saying we

1690
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:04,960
shouldn't have it as a position by any

1691
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,319
stretch of the imagination. I want that

1692
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:08,240
at that Amtrak station done. I live

1693
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,640
downtown. You have no idea how much the

1694
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,440
traffic backs up. Um, but it's

1695
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,160
worthwhile.

1696
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,839
>> Thank you. I I appreciate that. Before I

1697
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:17,039
would like to hear from other members,

1698
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:19,039
but Mr. Volison, can you remind me, I'm

1699
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:20,720
sorry for not remembering, is support

1700
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,960
for um funding to deliver an Amtrak

1701
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,559
station in the Ronic Valley Alageney

1702
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:27,200
Regional Commission 2027 agenda.

1703
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,480
>> It is not.

1704
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,839
Okay. Yeah, that was the um

1705
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,000
they are aware of the Amtrak, but

1706
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,799
because it hasn't uh you know moved

1707
01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:39,359
farther than it has, I don't think it

1708
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:41,200
was a priority, especially when it comes

1709
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,680
to the airport, which brings in over

1710
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,839
$600 million per year in economic

1711
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:47,359
benefit to the city.

1712
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:48,799
>> I hear you. I feel like the reason it

1713
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:50,160
hasn't moved forward and may not be in

1714
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,599
that agenda is because no one is

1715
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,079
advocating for that station and we or

1716
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:55,599
would be the only ones I think that

1717
01:04:55,599 --> 01:04:58,240
would push to drive that forward. Uh,

1718
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,839
Miss Sanchez Jones, do you have any

1719
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:01,359
comments or an opinion?

1720
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:03,599
>> So, that means Oh, a quick question. The

1721
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:05,520
support for the Virginia Bic uh

1722
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,079
bicyclist safety act, will that be

1723
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:10,319
removed in this position?

1724
01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:12,559
>> Um, no. I think we'd like to include

1725
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:13,920
that, but before we move down to

1726
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,839
positions, do you have a um an opinion

1727
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:19,839
on the priority ask for transportation?

1728
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:21,760
>> Well, one of them was supporting the

1729
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,400
funding for the airport terminal and for

1730
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,599
the entrance.

1731
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,440
>> You have a top priority among the two.

1732
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,960
if you had to choose

1733
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:29,920
>> just the airport.

1734
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,960
>> Airport. Okay. Gotcha. Thank you.

1735
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,400
And then to your question about the

1736
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,599
positions, um these are all the Virginia

1737
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:40,799
Bicyclist Safety Act uh did not pass

1738
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:44,079
last year. That is uh was recommended to

1739
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:47,680
us, suggested to us by Pedalafe Rono. Um

1740
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,359
several other bicycle advocates. I know

1741
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:51,920
Miss Durk recommended it a few times. If

1742
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,160
you have any um questions or concerns

1743
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,640
with that, uh let me know. I'd be glad

1744
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,440
to.

1745
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,079
>> Thank you.

1746
01:05:58,079 --> 01:05:58,799
>> I have a question.

1747
01:05:58,799 --> 01:05:59,680
>> Yes, ma'am.

1748
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,520
>> I just want to make sure I clarify this

1749
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,520
right. So, um, if you're asking for the

1750
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,720
priority under transportation, I would

1751
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,799
put the airport terminal upgrades first,

1752
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:12,559
but are we not going to do two? So,

1753
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:14,000
maybe that's where I got confused.

1754
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,440
>> No, that's okay, Miss Powers. That's

1755
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,520
what we can decide is it sounds like the

1756
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,839
majority would be in support of funding

1757
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:21,920
for airport terminal upgrades if we only

1758
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,160
have one priority. Um, and if that's

1759
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,079
where we land, that's Okay,

1760
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,319
>> I can be fine with that. The question

1761
01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:30,160
could then be would we want to have two

1762
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,000
priorities for this bucket

1763
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,960
>> if we Yes, sir. Mr. or sorry, I'll go to

1764
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,119
Mr. Nash and then Mr. Paulison.

1765
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:40,640
>> No, I think that um

1766
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,280
I mean I would I would be more in favor

1767
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,280
of making both of these priorities. Um

1768
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,400
cuz I took the Amtrak to get back and

1769
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,200
forth to school when I was at Mason like

1770
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,520
every time I needed to come home and

1771
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:02,000
everywhere else along the route like um Councilwoman Powers said. I mean

1772
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,280
everyone else had a station. They had

1773
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,880
something where you could sit, something

1774
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,599
you could use the bathroom um from

1775
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:12,160
Charlottesville to Lynchburg. I mean all

1776
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,920
of them. And we were the only ones that

1777
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,359
had nothing. Nothing. And we also have

1778
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:21,280
to be thinking ahead and not just in a

1779
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,440
moment, but ahead in that there are

1780
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,680
other localities that are south and

1781
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,559
southeast of us that are wanting to get

1782
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:32,559
Amtrak um connection and that eventually

1783
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,319
I mean they're going to continue to

1784
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:35,920
expand Amtrak because a lot of people

1785
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,039
are favoring taking rail again over air

1786
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:40,960
because the planes are crashing. But

1787
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,720
aside from that, like the cost

1788
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,039
difference between the two are fairly

1789
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:46,720
becoming equal at this point with jet

1790
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520
fuel becoming so expensive because you

1791
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,119
know of the economy right now and all

1792
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,319
those factors. So I mean I think that

1793
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:58,079
both of them deserve to have a space

1794
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,319
as our priorities and that takes us to

1795
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:03,599
six priorities and that is like the top

1796
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:06,319
of what you identified delegate rul

1797
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:09,039
saying when he said five to six. So, I

1798
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,039
think that nothing else can be a

1799
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:13,839
priority at this point except for these

1800
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:17,920
two. Um, so that's just my my take and I

1801
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,799
think that we also one I would love to

1802
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,159
see whatever information we have

1803
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:24,480
available on hand about the Amtrak

1804
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,880
station or plat uh station and whether

1805
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,560
we're going to utilize the current

1806
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,880
city-owned property and reconfigure that

1807
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,279
building into that or if we're going to

1808
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,040
like tear that building down and build

1809
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,120
something from ground up. And then also

1810
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,440
make sure we put that uh dollar amount

1811
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:41,839
in whatever that might be. I remember

1812
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:44,000
last year when we had the Amtrak

1813
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,520
platform on here, I believe we had we

1814
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,600
had a price tag associated. It was like

1815
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,319
7 million.

1816
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:50,960
>> Yeah, something like that.

1817
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,480
>> It was like 7 million last year when we

1818
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,480
did the ask. So, we can actually have

1819
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:56,319
the actual number with the information

1820
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,719
to back that up. I think it gives it a

1821
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:02,080
much stronger uh chance of maybe getting

1822
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,920
somewhere eventually, if not this year

1823
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,960
at least.

1824
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,719
Mr. um Bson u so I'm in agreement that

1825
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,560
we could do two on this one and I think

1826
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,440
that both are huge priorities for us. Um

1827
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:17,440
obviously I I feel the airport is more

1828
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:19,359
important but I think having two is

1829
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,839
fine. Um I just wanted to put a pin in

1830
01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:23,520
this really quickly because I see it uh

1831
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,159
just above transportation on our page.

1832
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:28,799
Um support equable equitable roll out of

1833
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:30,960
cannabis consumer market. I think that's

1834
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,279
a bit outdated. Um that's already

1835
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,759
happening. the the legislation is being

1836
01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:38,239
created. So just maybe striking that off

1837
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:40,400
of the thing for you for us.

1838
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,319
>> I appreciate that and I am fine striking

1839
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:43,920
that. I wasn't sure there was a

1840
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,000
suggestion suggestion to include

1841
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,839
something on that in this agenda and I

1842
01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:49,600
wasn't totally sure where they were with

1843
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,520
this. Is there any value and me is do

1844
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,199
they need any input from localities at

1845
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:55,199
this point? Are they totally done with

1846
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:56,719
their decision? [clears throat]

1847
01:09:56,719 --> 01:09:57,840
>> Okay, I'm fine striking that.

1848
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,480
>> Call it exactly equitable but sure.

1849
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:01,120
>> Yeah, [laughter]

1850
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,400
that's fine with me. Thank you, Mr.

1851
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,400
Paul. I have a question too about the

1852
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,480
support funding for a west to east

1853
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,280
Virginia breeze route. What is So I

1854
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,199
assume that's probably a bus is that a

1855
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:14,400
bus route that we have and the idea is a

1856
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,920
state uh a state bus route and the idea

1857
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,080
I'm sure you're about to say is uh to

1858
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,840
kind of pilot like what we did with the

1859
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,840
Amtrak where we had a bus to Lynchburg

1860
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,440
and then finally we got the Amtrak to

1861
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:27,440
Lynchber so it would show the demand

1862
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,040
between here and Richmond so that

1863
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,760
hopefully we

1864
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,360
>> can get an Amtrak one day to Richmond.

1865
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,560
>> Yep. Okay.

1866
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,120
>> Yeah. Yes. An Mr. Nash, the the Virginia

1867
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,400
Breezeway system is it's a great bus uh

1868
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,159
option, but it doesn't have a direct

1869
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,080
stop in Ronoke. And there's no good west

1870
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,080
to east line that would run, say, from

1871
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,719
like Bristol to Rono to Richmond to

1872
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:47,600
Hampton Roads.

1873
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,080
>> Goes north.

1874
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:48,640
>> Most things go north.

1875
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,920
>> If anything goes north, then you got to

1876
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,640
come back down.

1877
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,000
>> Sort of. Yeah. Or I mean, you could go

1878
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,239
to Salem to catch a bus, but that would

1879
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:54,800
only take you

1880
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,440
>> got one of these,

1881
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:56,800
>> but it would only take you to to

1882
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,800
Northern Virginia to the um Yeah. So, we

1883
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,880
don't have a stop. I think um it could

1884
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,239
would be interesting to know if there's

1885
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:05,040
support for it for a west to east um bus

1886
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,120
line. So that's why that isn't Mr.

1887
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:07,679
Bison.

1888
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:09,120
>> And also I know that the regional

1889
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,520
commission is pushing for a bus stop at

1890
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,600
the airport to help make that more

1891
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,320
accessible to the region as well.

1892
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,590
>> Fantastic.

1893
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:20,880
» Yes, Mr. Mayor.

1894
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,600
>> Sorry to add.

1895
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,880
>> No, no, please.

1896
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,600
>> Um so I would support two priorities

1897
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,520
here. I think they're both critically

1898
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,760
important and I think this is a strong

1899
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,679
starting point for us with the Amtrak

1900
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:35,040
station. Um I'm wondering if there's a

1901
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,719
way to incorporate the first two lines

1902
01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:42,000
into one supportive statement for the

1903
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,159
airport so that we're not um delineating

1904
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:47,760
um

1905
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,600
because we know that regionally these

1906
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,320
are both priorities. So that that's one

1907
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,159
comment. Um I'm curious about two

1908
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:58,480
things. Uh one is I think it would be

1909
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,679
helpful for us as a council to have a

1910
01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:04,960
briefing on overall transportation

1911
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,920
within the region to include you know

1912
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,920
where are we with Amtrak, where are we

1913
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,360
with the airport, where are we with um

1914
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,600
transit, uh where are we with Virginia

1915
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,440
Breeze, just so that we have a more

1916
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,280
comprehensive understanding of how all

1917
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:25,040
these things work together. Um, and I'm just pitching that as a an

1918
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,400
opportunity for us. Um, and in addition

1919
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,679
to that, I know I I met several months

1920
01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:35,360
ago. I'm grateful that we have a renewed

1921
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,320
relationship with Amtrak. There is

1922
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,320
renewed interest in what's happening

1923
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,640
here and they are very involved in in

1924
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,080
what's happening here and want to see us

1925
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,600
move forward.

1926
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,360
At the time when I met with the

1927
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,520
government affairs person um she

1928
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,800
indicated that um

1929
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,679
you know Rowan Oak wasn't positioned yet

1930
01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:00,239
as a large regional hub for Amtrak. Um

1931
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,400
but there are I think this is a step

1932
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,199
that we can take toward that and with

1933
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:08,159
the potential I I don't know fully where

1934
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,480
the route you know I know a new station

1935
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:12,880
is being built in Christiansburg uh for

1936
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,239
that route and I believe that that train

1937
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,400
is going to come through here or connect

1938
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,199
here so we'll have three trains. So this

1939
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:25,280
is another step along the way. Um

1940
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,800
that with all of that um

1941
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,719
with all of that happening, I think it's

1942
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:33,920
absolutely critical that we um name this

1943
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:39,120
as one of our top priority asks. So

1944
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,880
>> I definitely support that and thank you.

1945
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,719
I think that's a great idea that we get

1946
01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:45,120
a um comprehensive transportation

1947
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,600
briefing. Um in fairness [clears throat]

1948
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,960
to go back to Mr. Vison's point earlier.

1949
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,560
Um,

1950
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,159
do we want to consider having two

1951
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:57,120
priorities under housing as well given

1952
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:58,719
or leave that where that is?

1953
01:13:58,719 --> 01:13:59,760
>> Give it where it is because that takes

1954
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,120
us to seven.

1955
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,360
>> Okay.

1956
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,520
I will note that our our schoolboard

1957
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,199
friends got away with seven priorities.

1958
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:08,811
So, we could probably if we want, but

1959
01:14:08,811 --> 01:14:09,679
[laughter]

1960
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:12,080
um I we can consider if anyone wants to

1961
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,679
consider that, we'll I'll keep us moving

1962
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:16,239
along. I'm I think that is I like that.

1963
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:17,760
I'm okay with two priorities under

1964
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,520
transportation if everyone else is as

1965
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,719
well. Okay. Uh agreement and moving

1966
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:27,440
along. Um environment uh support

1967
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:29,520
legislation to require stronger public

1968
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,800
health and consumer protection

1969
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,480
guardrails on data center development.

1970
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,560
And then there's some um some language

1971
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,520
there. I don't have a

1972
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,560
uh reference for a specific bill that we

1973
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,560
might consider supporting in the

1974
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,560
upcoming um session. So I'm working to

1975
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,400
finalize that. I can get that before to

1976
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,960
you all soon. But um I would open up

1977
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,520
discussion to do folks want to keep that

1978
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,080
as our priority ask um rateayer public

1979
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,920
health environmental protections around

1980
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,840
um data center development. There are

1981
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,239
also a number of other um positions that

1982
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:03,040
we could consider. Um so I'll just kind

1983
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,600
of stop there. Mr. Hagen.

1984
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,760
>> Um I would be more inclined to do a

1985
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,040
moratorum for a period of time including

1986
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,480
these um just basically to accommodate

1987
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:18,320
for after that moratorum would end um

1988
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,159
having those powers to have uh some

1989
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:24,480
control. But just given the fact that

1990
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:27,760
Virginia I believe has more data centers

1991
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,360
in the in Virginia than I think anywhere

1992
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,080
else on the planet.

1993
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,800
um it raises some concerns and given the

1994
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,600
fact that we are seeing both the uh

1995
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,000
potential merger of Dominion and

1996
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,400
increased rate pairs I think it's it

1997
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,159
behooves [clears throat] us to push for

1998
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:49,679
a little bit more control

1999
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:52,560
>> I there's a suggestion on the table to

2000
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,400
consider a moratorium on data center

2001
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,960
development for a period of time I would

2002
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,800
support that if there was council

2003
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,040
consensus and can open that up for

2004
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,480
discussion

2005
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:06,870
>> I would support that as well.

2006
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,880
» Anyone else have any comments on that?

2007
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,159
>> I can support that as well.

2008
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:14,960
>> Yeah, I would say that um a lot is

2009
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,600
happening in in this space right now.

2010
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,080
>> Uh we've seen the governor take an an or

2011
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,360
an action. We're seeing uh Senator Lucas

2012
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,400
is very passionate about this. Um I

2013
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,320
would want to uh set up our ask to be in

2014
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,560
line with others kind of what is VML

2015
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,920
looking at this kind of goes to that

2016
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,760
what is VML looking at what are others

2017
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,000
looking at um to do this um I don't know

2018
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,679
you know it may be that a moratorium is

2019
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:43,280
what everybody's pushing for it may not

2020
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,800
but I don't think um I think that

2021
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,880
matching us up with what language is

2022
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,679
being used by others is going to help um

2023
01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:54,239
because this is is pretty vague and I

2024
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:55,760
know that you're going look at it later.

2025
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,320
But um that's where I would say I'm I'm

2026
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,159
not necessarily for a moratorum. I think

2027
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:01,733
we should be following what

2028
01:17:01,733 --> 01:17:03,360
[clears throat] the state wants to kind

2029
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,560
of lead on this.

2030
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,760
>> Thank you, Mr. Volison.

2031
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,400
Mayor,

2032
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,679
>> yeah, I I appreciate the intent of the

2033
01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:16,159
original um narrative that you've put

2034
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:19,679
here, Vice Mayor. Um I think all of

2035
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:21,520
these components are absolutely

2036
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,800
essential. Um I appreciate that. council

2037
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,800
has already, you know, set up

2038
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,280
significant guard rails within the city

2039
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,920
and I think that's a model that I'd like

2040
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,880
to see other localities adopt as well so

2041
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,120
that we have a regional approach to

2042
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,719
this. Um, I would have some concern

2043
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:43,679
right now about a moratorum without some

2044
01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:46,080
of this additional information in place.

2045
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,719
Um, but I like I said, if we can

2046
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:50,320
fine-tune

2047
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,560
what the legislative options are here,

2048
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,320
as you've indicated, I would be

2049
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,760
supportive of that.

2050
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,040
>> Alison, do you have another comment?

2051
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:00,880
>> Yeah, I I apologize. I forgot about this

2052
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,920
comment, but um it was making sure that

2053
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,800
we have uh local control. I think that's

2054
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,400
one of the more important things about

2055
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,400
that is having local control over land

2056
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,080
and zoning and not being preempted by

2057
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,199
the state um on our on what we can do as

2058
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:17,360
a locality. I think that's an important

2059
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,560
piece um that I would want to see in it.

2060
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,040
>> Okay. Well, I appreciate that

2061
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,120
discussion. I'm hearing some support for

2062
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,440
a moratorium, some support uh two voices

2063
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:31,280
that would not at this time. What I will

2064
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,960
do is work to update this and circulate

2065
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,800
something for you all to consider that's

2066
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,560
a little more concrete. Um, and I don't

2067
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,159
think we have to decide on that today,

2068
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:43,920
but it sounds like we will keep as one

2069
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,520
of our priority asks something on um,

2070
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,360
uh, guardrails around data centers just

2071
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,199
to be determined exactly what that looks

2072
01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:54,080
like. Does that sound okay?

2073
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,120
>> That's the biggest threat to the

2074
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,000
environment right now. I mean, honestly,

2075
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,679
I mean, it's an accelerator for all the

2076
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:01,199
issues we're dealing with that are

2077
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:03,040
caused by nature and that's been going

2078
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,480
on for decades. Um, so I think that's

2079
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,159
definitely the number one. I mean,

2080
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:10,159
plastic's been around. Plastic will

2081
01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:13,600
continue to be around. Um, but the the

2082
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,400
effects and the harm of data centers,

2083
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,000
um, not just to the environment, but the

2084
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,800
people, um, is something that I don't

2085
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,440
think we really truly know the impact of

2086
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,400
yet. Um, and I think that the future is

2087
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,239
going to be um a really really uh crazy

2088
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:31,440
place when we start seeing some of the

2089
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,120
documentaries come out about the effects

2090
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,640
of these data centers.

2091
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,159
>> Definitely share your concerns. Thank

2092
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:40,719
you, Mr. Nash.

2093
01:19:40,719 --> 01:19:43,920
Um on I think we're almost done to uh we

2094
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,360
were not going to include one of these

2095
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,360
as our priority asks but under

2096
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,719
government governvern governance and

2097
01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:50,239
finances

2098
01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:52,480
um there was the charter change from May

2099
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:54,239
to November which is a hold over from

2100
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:56,960
last year or from previous years excuse

2101
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,199
me and then I'll just flag for everyone

2102
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:03,440
that there are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 eight staff

2103
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:06,400
additions or recommended additions that

2104
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,679
um touch on um largely

2105
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:11,199
financial

2106
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:14,000
um some tax matters and then um AI

2107
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,239
regulations.

2108
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:17,920
Um, I am putting these here for

2109
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,360
everyone's awareness and digestion. And,

2110
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:22,480
um, I'm going to look to the city

2111
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:23,920
attorney's office to help me work with

2112
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,080
the city manager's office to, um,

2113
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,159
because these came from staff to just,

2114
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:30,960
uh, vet these and make sure that the

2115
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,600
asks are appropriate and if they are and

2116
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,239
we want to consider them, um, we can

2117
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:38,239
include them in our positions or adjust

2118
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:39,679
them around. But I don't have a lot to

2119
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:41,840
say on these. I'm open to M. Turner,

2120
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,840
anyone wants to say anything about these

2121
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,080
additions. Um if anyone has any

2122
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,440
questions or wants to discuss them, like

2123
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:50,640
I said, they range from taxes on um vape

2124
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:56,640
items to um AI regulations. Um

2125
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,040
so it's glad to talk about it. I don't

2126
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,080
have a whole lot that I can share

2127
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,000
personally on it if anyone.

2128
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:02,560
>> Yes, sir.

2129
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,719
>> I would just say, you know, I second

2130
01:21:04,719 --> 01:21:07,679
that. Um, we all know my passion for

2131
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:12,400
vape shops, but um October 1, there were

2132
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,199
some laws that went into effect um that

2133
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:19,040
pertain to licensing and um kind of

2134
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,480
cracking down and enforcing the the the

2135
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:25,440
um authorized versus non-authorized

2136
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:28,880
um vape um products they're allowed to

2137
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,040
have on their shelves. And a lot of the

2138
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,679
vape shops were empty when October one

2139
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:36,239
hit. Um, I went in and did a little a

2140
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:37,840
little inspection myself,

2141
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,840
>> little little reconnaissance and some of

2142
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,000
them had no nothing on the shelves other

2143
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,600
than cigarettes. Um, so I would say yes,

2144
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,880
let's look at what went into effect

2145
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,880
October one. Um, because like I said,

2146
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,719
the license is already a thing um that

2147
01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:55,120
went into effect. Um, in particularly, I

2148
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,199
would like to see what VML is doing

2149
01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:01,679
about the skill game machines um in the

2150
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:04,960
uh convenience stores and gas stations

2151
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,199
um that operate mostly within the same

2152
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:11,520
localities and areas as vape shops. Um

2153
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:12,960
so yeah, I would really like to see that

2154
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,320
skilled games um one um put into effect

2155
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,149
at a state level.

2156
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:20,800
And then

2157
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,520
>> oh um the the taxes on vape um liquid

2158
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,040
and and all that stuff I think needs to

2159
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,800
go through but um I was just reminded

2160
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,840
and this might be something for

2161
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,360
environmental

2162
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,440
um and just something uh the plastic bag

2163
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,320
tax the fact that uh one cent stays with

2164
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,600
the stores um state law might be

2165
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,000
something that we might want to like nyx

2166
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,520
that aspect because to me it doesn't

2167
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,000
make any logical sense as to why we are

2168
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,480
subsidizing plastic bag creation if the

2169
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,960
point of it is to and it given the fact

2170
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,560
that Kroger, Walmart, all these other

2171
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,159
companies can purchase it for

2172
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:00,560
considerably less than. So now we're

2173
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,080
just encouraging the creation of plastic

2174
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,239
bags rather than the point of the tax

2175
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:06,960
presumably is to end plastic bag usage.

2176
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,120
So sorry the the tax reminded me of

2177
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:09,679
that.

2178
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:11,600
>> No, thank you. That's a um interesting

2179
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,120
point. I think one of the arguments in

2180
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,400
favor of that is to give a little bit of

2181
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,040
an incentive to the store, but they hate

2182
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,560
the they don't like it. they all now

2183
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,040
have had the time to implement their

2184
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,639
program. So, it doesn't make any sense

2185
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:25,280
to continue that. Specifically, 20% of

2186
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,360
it stays with the stores. So, I know

2187
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,520
it's a niche issue. It's a pet peeve of

2188
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,800
mine.

2189
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,639
>> Thank you for raising that. I will um

2190
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:36,639
look into that

2191
01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:39,120
for a possible addition. Um is there

2192
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,800
anything else on these items that were

2193
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,080
recommended by staff? Any other further

2194
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,120
qu I'm sorry, Mary?

2195
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,639
>> No, you're fine. I I just had a

2196
01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:48,480
follow-up question and this might be

2197
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,679
something that um Mr. Bryant online

2198
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,520
could chime in on uh because I don't

2199
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,239
know what the status of it is. I know

2200
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:59,199
and this kind of connects with um any

2201
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:01,840
future uh casino site locations

2202
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,000
throughout the state. the governor

2203
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,520
vetoed um the site location for Fairfax

2204
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,679
and part of that the reason for vetoing

2205
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:13,760
that was to to want to um

2206
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,840
have a gaming commission and I think

2207
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,639
there's been resistance in the Senate to

2208
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:22,159
um starting that and I I wondered Mr.

2209
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:25,840
Bryant, if I may, um, if you have any

2210
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,920
updates on kind of what the status of

2211
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,520
that is, because I think that gaming

2212
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,000
commission also has a correlation with

2213
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,639
issues related to, um, potential

2214
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,920
licensing fees for skill games and other

2215
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,360
things that might fall under that.

2216
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,639
>> Uh, Mr. Chairman, uh, and Mr. Mayor, uh,

2217
01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:47,120
the governor veto the the so-called

2218
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,440
Fairfax bill for for two reasons. One is

2219
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:54,159
um unlike all other bills passed

2220
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,480
regarding uh casinos, it totally

2221
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:00,080
bypassed and overrode uh local governing

2222
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,400
authorities. So, she was looking after

2223
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,239
local governments in Fairfax County in

2224
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:07,840
particular. It was a um heavy-handed

2225
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,760
um uh approach and totally ran over uh

2226
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,159
local government authority. Um, second,

2227
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:15,679
yes, the governor's long-standing

2228
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:17,360
position has been, going back to

2229
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,840
candidate Spanberger, was she wasn't

2230
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,880
much in favor of significantly expanding

2231
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,400
Virginia's gaming options until there is

2232
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,320
a Virginia gaming commission

2233
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,840
established.

2234
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,000
Um, I have not heard that she has

2235
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,040
changed her position on that.

2236
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,639
uh there's been a difference of approach

2237
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:38,560
between the House and the Senate on

2238
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,280
establishing a gaming commission versus

2239
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,000
say having the Department of the Lottery

2240
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,239
sort of become an an Uber agency and

2241
01:25:46,239 --> 01:25:51,520
oversee all gaming. Um and I'm sure that I would presume there will be uh

2242
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,920
legislation introduced in the 2027

2243
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,760
session to establish a gaming

2244
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,080
commission, but but uh but who knows how

2245
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,719
it might fair.

2246
01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:02,400
>> Thank you, Mr. Bryant, and thank you for

2247
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,280
the clarification. I appreciate that.

2248
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,600
>> Thank you for the question.

2249
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,480
>> If we are I think this is a good time to

2250
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:11,939
I think we're done going over

2251
01:26:11,939 --> 01:26:14,960
[clears throat] uh our draft agenda and

2252
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,880
I will take all the steps I mentioned to

2253
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,960
share it with all the parties to get it

2254
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,480
tied up. I think my question but we can

2255
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,159
do this at the end is when we have a

2256
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,480
final copy but I want to turn it over

2257
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:26,320
before I turn it over to Mr. Cox and Mr.

2258
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:27,840
Binkley to give our federal legislative

2259
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,719
update. I wanted to give an opportunity

2260
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:33,920
um for Miss Ael or Mr. Kaknes or Dr.

2261
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,440
Sbert to say anything if you would like.

2262
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:38,000
No pressure about the RCPS um

2263
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,560
legislative priorities.

2264
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,840
>> You just give me a thumbs down if you

2265
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,830
don't want to.

2266
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,719
» Thank you, Chair and Vice Mayor Maguire,

2267
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:51,360
um Mayor Cobb and all council members

2268
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,679
for um having us part of the legislative

2269
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,120
the joint legislative committee meeting

2270
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,520
today. Um so we were able to as a body

2271
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,320
um we had a special meeting for our

2272
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,560
September workshop and thus gave us the

2273
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,920
ability to vote and we were able to

2274
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,320
based on feedback from our board go

2275
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,600
ahead and adopt our legislative

2276
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,679
priorities a little bit earlier as you

2277
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:15,120
know we had discussed our timeline

2278
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,440
places in o our October meeting which

2279
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,520
would have been after this meeting of

2280
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,920
council so that we were able to adopt

2281
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,960
our legislative priorities um in advance

2282
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,800
of your adoption so that they can be

2283
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,280
rolled in very specifically together.

2284
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,360
Um, and we have discussed those

2285
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,440
priorities with you all. The top two

2286
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:38,960
that we always espouse as best practices

2287
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,920
and overarching philosophies are about

2288
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,880
no unfunded mandates and local control.

2289
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,880
Just like we always espouse to know

2290
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,400
every student by name, need, and

2291
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,080
strength, we think that that also

2292
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,320
applies to the locality. Nobody knows

2293
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,080
Ronoke citizens and Ronoke students

2294
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,840
better than the people of Rowanoke. And

2295
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,600
so that's why we always advocate that

2296
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,920
for those as overarching

2297
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,960
um avenues of advocacy when the

2298
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,280
legislative session is going. And then

2299
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,360
of course we have our other five

2300
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,560
priorities that have been pretty

2301
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,520
standard over the years. Um but a lot of

2302
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,600
our CTE advocacy um and EL advocacy has

2303
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,600
been under the the heading of commitment

2304
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,600
to serving all students. The position

2305
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,520
papers are still in draft form. So those

2306
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,440
will be continue to be prepared as we

2307
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,600
head into the legislative session. So

2308
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,679
that's it for us.

2309
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:29,920
>> Thank you very much. I say pelvis. This

2310
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,600
looks great. I appreciate you sharing it

2311
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,520
with us. Um does anyone have any

2312
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:39,350
thoughts or questions you want to share?

2313
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,400
Well, very much. Um

2314
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,040
I will turn this over now to kind of

2315
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,120
flip this agenda all over the place. Uh

2316
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,639
Mr. Cox and Mr. Binkley. And I want to

2317
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:53,520
um sorry to make you wait so long. Um if

2318
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,040
you can kind of one of the things I was

2319
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,199
hoping today in your presentation if you

2320
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:00,880
could just be sure to cover um what are

2321
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,719
um

2322
01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:04,960
I lost my train of thought. Um our

2323
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,880
congressional directed spending request.

2324
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,560
What uh can you just for everyone's

2325
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,560
benefit the public and ours refresh for

2326
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,880
us what have we requested in the past?

2327
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,000
What was um approved? What was not? Sort

2328
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,440
of where are we with that? Is there

2329
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:19,520
anything council should know? Um, and

2330
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,040
then in addition to any of your other

2331
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,320
I'm sorry for not reviewing this in

2332
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,679
advance, but any of your other federal

2333
01:29:23,679 --> 01:29:25,199
legislative updates you give us, I'd be

2334
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:27,360
curious if you had any thoughts on what

2335
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,600
um we as a locality might expect heading

2336
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,239
into the new year when um I think the

2337
01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:34,400
Medicaid changes take effect and a lot

2338
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:35,679
of folks could get kicked off of

2339
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:37,440
coverage and if there's just anything

2340
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:39,600
that um we as a locality could or should

2341
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,360
know in the federal context for that.

2342
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,080
So, thank you and sorry for the long

2343
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,920
wait. I'll turn it over to Mr. Cox and

2344
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,320
Mr. Hley.

2345
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:48,560
Well,

2346
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,480
>> good morning. Uh, thank you all and good

2347
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:53,040
to be with uh, council members and, uh,

2348
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,000
the mayor and it's great to witness uh,

2349
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,360
sort of the thought that goes into the

2350
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,560
legislative agenda. I know it's not

2351
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,080
easy. There's a lot of things facing

2352
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,600
local governments and there's many

2353
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,600
things to consider. Um, but we will sort

2354
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,960
of dive pretty quickly into um, kind of

2355
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,239
where things are federal policy-wise.

2356
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:12,480
Right now, uh, the House and Senate are

2357
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,040
both adjourned. They are not in session.

2358
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,679
They're in what's called October recess

2359
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:20,960
um which is largely a function of uh the

2360
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,199
midterms coming up in a month, less than

2361
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:26,080
a month now I guess at this point. So um

2362
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,679
a lot of members of Congress, senators

2363
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:30,239
are back in district campaigning or

2364
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:32,239
helping others campaign if they have uh

2365
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:35,280
ambitions for the next few years. Um so

2366
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,000
it's a it's a busy time outside of DC

2367
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,520
and fairly quiet on the hill. um to

2368
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,920
quickly answer your questions before we

2369
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,280
dive in. Um on the earmarks front, uh

2370
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,280
this sort of ties to federal

2371
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,199
appropriations. Um Congress has passed a

2372
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:55,760
uh continuing resolution which runs

2373
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,880
through December 11th. Um and once we

2374
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,199
get to December 11th, they'll sort of

2375
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:04,880
renegotiate things for um the

2376
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,000
appropriations bill for next year, FY27.

2377
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:13,120
Um, in in FY27, we submitted uh I think

2378
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,920
we had five earmarks that we went after.

2379
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,320
Um, we were unsuccessful in three of

2380
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,600
them. Um, we submitted a $3.5 million

2381
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,080
earmark for the In River Kayak Park. We

2382
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,920
submitted $10 million for the Mil

2383
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,400
Mountain Greenway Bridge, $10 million

2384
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,520
for Amtrak phase one uh for the station

2385
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,920
downtown. Those three did not make it

2386
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,400
in. Um, we've had some follow-up

2387
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,400
conversations with our Senate staff uh

2388
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,040
cuz your member of Congress uh does not

2389
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:42,480
participate in the remarks process. So,

2390
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:44,400
we we have followed up with Senators

2391
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,560
Kane and Warner Regionals teams. We've

2392
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,560
been great uh to talk to them about uh

2393
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,560
what we can submit for next year. Scott

2394
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,159
will get into what our plan is moving

2395
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:54,320
forward with them, but um sort of talked

2396
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,600
about what happened with these other

2397
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,639
projects and largely boils down to those

2398
01:31:58,639 --> 01:32:00,639
are very competitive buckets. We

2399
01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:04,480
submitted a pretty large request um for

2400
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,639
those three. So um we're going to go

2401
01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:08,400
back to them with new plans for the In

2402
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,400
River Kayak Park, Mil Mountain Greenway

2403
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,159
Bridge, and uh for Amtrak, uh how we can

2404
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:16,400
find a way to get some funding flowing

2405
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,560
there. We were however successful on

2406
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,760
some ear marks we co-signed on that we

2407
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,880
um wrote letters of support uh for the

2408
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,400
Rowan Oak Airport. Um those two

2409
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,280
earmarks, uh the towers and facilities

2410
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,280
upgrade is $8.5 million. Um that was

2411
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,760
advanced by Senators Kane and Warner as

2412
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,159
well as the runway study. Um we don't

2413
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:43,040
have final as a as a function of not

2414
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,080
knowing uh the as the CR the continuing

2415
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,080
resolution being punted till the 11th.

2416
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,280
We don't have final um language yet for

2417
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,199
the appropriations bill. So we don't

2418
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:54,880
know how those things fully shaped out.

2419
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,400
We do know that they were advanced and

2420
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,400
we do know that they have a pretty good

2421
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,880
shot of being in the final bill. So,

2422
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,239
we're kind of in a little bit of wait

2423
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:04,000
and see mode. I would say everyone's in

2424
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,400
a slight wait andse mode um with

2425
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,120
Congress pause for the midterms. Um

2426
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,120
after the midterms will sort of be a

2427
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,440
reshuffleling of the deck. Um you'll

2428
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:15,440
have I would think it's pretty likely at

2429
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,199
this point that at least the House

2430
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:19,760
control flips. Um so you'll have new

2431
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,080
committee chairs, new members coming in

2432
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,080
and uh just a lot of moving things

2433
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,639
around and sort of a new dynamic and I

2434
01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:28,320
think that'll change um how the end

2435
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,679
ofear uh negotiations go which I'll get

2436
01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:33,679
to in my next slide. Uh there's three

2437
01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:36,320
pieces of legislation just to put on uh

2438
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,480
to put on the council's uh sort of

2439
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:41,920
radar. The first um is the rateayer

2440
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,320
protection act. Uh this has to do with

2441
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,520
data centers and making sure that um the

2442
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,520
folks who are building the data centers

2443
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,920
uh that their large electrical and water

2444
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,040
needs are not affecting rateayers. Um

2445
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,560
this piece of legislation passed through

2446
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,560
the house. I think it was like 417 to

2447
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,840
three. So uh it is insanely bipartisan.

2448
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,080
Uh is in the Senate now. The Senate

2449
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,000
decided not to take it up. There was

2450
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,719
some back and forth over who pays for

2451
01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:11,679
what. Um but I think this sentiment is

2452
01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:14,000
not going away of making sure that at

2453
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,560
the federal level um there are sorts

2454
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,320
some sort of guarantees for rateayers

2455
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,719
and that data centers um and the

2456
01:34:20,719 --> 01:34:23,440
developers behind them are uh footing

2457
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:26,239
the bill on sort of the the cost

2458
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:27,840
associated with them. So, I would put

2459
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,280
the rateayer protection act and that

2460
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,880
sort of idea around um data centers not

2461
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,719
impacting the local community when it

2462
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:37,280
comes to their bills uh being something

2463
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,880
that I think will move forward

2464
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,719
regardless if that bill passes or not by

2465
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:42,639
the end of this Congress. I do think

2466
01:34:42,639 --> 01:34:45,199
that uh that sentiment will continue.

2467
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:46,800
Another thing to put on your radar, the

2468
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,800
21st Century Road to Housing Act that is

2469
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,320
now law. Um so implementation from HUD

2470
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,040
uh will get moving. Um that creates new

2471
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,920
funding streams uh that sort of

2472
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,920
essentially ask local governments to

2473
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:03,199
ensure that their um that their policies

2474
01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:06,719
on zoning and on housing are more uh in

2475
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:08,800
the sort of yes in my backyard uh

2476
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,600
sentiment. And that sort of ties federal

2477
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:17,199
funding um HUD funds uh to a more open

2478
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,880
um open policy for zoning and multif

2479
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,199
family housing. Um, the third bill, uh,

2480
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:27,120
which is not on the slide, uh, is it the

2481
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,719
there's a lot of, I think, [snorts]

2482
01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:31,360
pressure kicking upward on what to do

2483
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:32,960
about flock cameras and things like

2484
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,199
that. Um, so you're seeing some pieces

2485
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:37,120
of legislation we're not fully formed

2486
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,760
yet. Um, you've seen some in the Senate,

2487
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,360
uh, from Senator Holly, some in the

2488
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,560
House from, uh, bipartisan pair Rajn

2489
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,239
Christian Morphy from Illinois and

2490
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:50,639
others. um basically trying to uh align

2491
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:52,880
federal highway funds or federal funds

2492
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,280
on streets or roads with uh with flock

2493
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,760
cameras. Again, this isn't fully baked,

2494
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,679
but I think that there will be more

2495
01:36:01,679 --> 01:36:04,560
federal legislation or more sort of

2496
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,560
federal ideiation about um how to impact

2497
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,880
or get into this conversation because it

2498
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,960
is sort of hitting the front lines of uh

2499
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,760
local governments. Next slide, please.

2500
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,520
And just the final thing to put on your

2501
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,000
radar, the end of the year is going to

2502
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,840
be very busy. So the next month will be

2503
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,480
pretty quiet. Everybody will be uh back

2504
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,080
home in their districts campaigning,

2505
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,920
back home uh trying to raise money,

2506
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,120
doing all the things they need to do

2507
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,760
before election day. Um so they've

2508
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,400
kicked the can on a bunch of bills. Um

2509
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,800
they've kicked the can on uh the like I

2510
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,040
said the appropriations process and

2511
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,040
FY27. So, they're going to have to

2512
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,960
renegotiate all those things um after,

2513
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,480
you know, December 11th when that

2514
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,639
expires. Um they've also got some

2515
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:50,639
long-term reauthorizations, things like

2516
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:51,840
the transportation surface

2517
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,920
transportation bill, uh which includes

2518
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,800
funding for roadways, bridges. Um

2519
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,480
they've also got to re they've got to

2520
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:00,960
negotiate the farm bill, uh the water

2521
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,400
resources word uh legislation, and then

2522
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,440
the defense bill. Um, so there's a lot

2523
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:09,040
uh that's going to pile up at the end of

2524
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,880
the year. I think you're going to see a

2525
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,000
lot of big uh sort of packages come

2526
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,119
together after the election. Uh again,

2527
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:19,520
those dynamics will be shaped by who

2528
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,320
wins and who loses in the election. So,

2529
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,480
uh that lame duck period, I think, which

2530
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,320
is normally pretty quiet, is actually

2531
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:27,920
going to be pretty active. So, we'll be

2532
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,800
giving you some uh big updates coming up

2533
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,760
after the election. But uh for now I'll

2534
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,920
let Scott talk about moving forward some

2535
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,920
of the things we're hyperfocused on

2536
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,679
locally. Next slide please.

2537
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:40,560
>> Um

2538
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,560
>> I'm sorry real quick uh before you jump

2539
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,040
over to Scott. Mr. Hagen had a question

2540
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,560
about the flock legislation?

2541
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,080
>> Yeah. So are you saying that they're

2542
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,320
looking at tying federal funds for

2543
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,719
highways with implementation of flock

2544
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:55,679
cameras on the said highways or did I

2545
01:37:55,679 --> 01:38:01,920
mishar that or misinterpret that? the idea is uh basically they would

2546
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,760
they're looking for points of leverage

2547
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,080
where federal and again this is not

2548
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,639
fully baked um but but basically they're

2549
01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:10,080
looking for points of leverage where

2550
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,960
federal funds flow down um and how that

2551
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,280
could uh be used towards the

2552
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,199
implementation of fly cameras which

2553
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,280
isn't necessarily happening but

2554
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,880
basically they're trying to remove some

2555
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,440
of that automation remove any way that

2556
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:25,520
the federal government could be funding

2557
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,119
it or sort of back back door funding it.

2558
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:32,159
>> Um, a lot of this is not fully baked and

2559
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:34,719
we're remains to be seen, but I do think

2560
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:36,800
the big difference from when we last

2561
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:41,199
talked to you is that there's now a push

2562
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:42,880
um, I would say within Congress, they're

2563
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,119
getting pressure to develop some sort of

2564
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,520
legislation around flock cameras,

2565
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,440
automated license pl readers, and things

2566
01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:50,800
like that. So, we'll continue to keep

2567
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,280
you updated, but it's very much in the

2568
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:54,719
early stages and you're seeing things

2569
01:38:54,719 --> 01:38:56,960
like there's the no flocked act, the ban

2570
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,239
flocked act

2571
01:38:58,239 --> 01:38:59,920
>> um that are starting to come together

2572
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,760
and put put together guard rails and

2573
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,920
other uh ways of changing that that area

2574
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,080
policy.

2575
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,360
>> Vice Mayor,

2576
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:10,880
>> Mr. Bison has a followup.

2577
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,480
>> Uh this actually on the housing act. Um,

2578
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:16,400
in your description of it, you stated

2579
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,960
that if there's more Yes, in my backyard

2580
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:20,639
uh zoning implementation that that can

2581
01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:23,440
be beneficial to a a locality. Could you

2582
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,000
talk a little bit about that?

2583
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,520
>> I think it'll change um some of those uh

2584
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:34,000
funds that are handed down from HUD. The sort of guidance for how you get the

2585
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,400
money will be more um you know, less

2586
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,119
uh you know, single family single family

2587
01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:44,080
housing. um it'll sort of change. It's

2588
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,360
basically the federal government's way

2589
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,199
of saying if you want to get your HUD

2590
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:48,320
dollars, if you want to get some of

2591
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,400
these federal funds, you need to have a

2592
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,199
little more openness of zoning, openness

2593
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:56,159
of um affordable housing and other

2594
01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:59,520
things. Uh trying to put more pressure

2595
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,400
on both uh supply side and put more

2596
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:06,239
pressure on the federal fund side.

2597
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:08,320
So, we did a resoning here a couple

2598
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,159
years ago. So, that would probably put

2599
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,000
us higher on the list of getting funding

2600
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,000
if we're able to show that we've already

2601
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,719
done that here in the city. Correct.

2602
01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:20,800
>> I would say so. I mean, I think it's first and foremost a you're not

2603
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,800
going to lose funds. I do think that

2604
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,480
they will they do have new grant

2605
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,960
programs that they're we're remaining.

2606
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,040
We were really waiting to see what uh

2607
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,199
those programs look like where they will

2608
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:34,320
offer new sort of award opportunities,

2609
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,320
new programs and things that Rona could

2610
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,960
participate participate in due to what

2611
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,880
it sounds like are, you know, pretty

2612
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,840
amenable uh zoning laws.

2613
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,440
>> Thank you.

2614
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:46,880
for the question, Mr. Vis. And

2615
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,159
Mr. Hagen has a followup.

2616
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:49,920
>> Just a follow up on the housing thing.

2617
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,159
I'm hearing a lot of ifs and mays and

2618
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:54,880
this type of thing. Um, it's always good

2619
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,280
to keep our eyes out on for certain

2620
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,520
grants that would come up, but I'd love

2621
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,040
to hear it when it actually becomes

2622
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,840
finalized.

2623
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:04,320
>> Thank you.

2624
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:08,550
>> Absolutely.

2625
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,199
» Thank you. Okay. I think uh sorry I

2626
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:12,880
interrupted you. I think Mr. Binkley,

2627
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,639
you were about to head to the next part

2628
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:15,760
of your presentation, so I'll turn it

2629
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:16,719
back to you.

2630
01:41:16,719 --> 01:41:19,280
>> Yep. Thank you very much. Uh great to be

2631
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,040
with you all today. Just wanted to

2632
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,440
highlight a couple of our uh current top

2633
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,600
priorities. [clears throat] Um as an

2634
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,520
update on the Norfol Southern Party of

2635
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,480
Record uh issue, we have officially

2636
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:33,440
joined the STB merger docket as a party

2637
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:36,560
of record. Uh this uh affords the city

2638
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,600
an opportunity to monitor filings and

2639
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,159
respond to deadlines um with the city

2640
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:45,119
attorney. Um, one of the things that we

2641
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:47,040
wanted to highlight, uh, that we ought

2642
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,400
to do is, uh, flag anything that

2643
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,719
specifically affects the city, uh,

2644
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:54,800
including things like, uh, changes to

2645
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,360
Norfick Southern facilities or property,

2646
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,360
uh, things like local operations or

2647
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,920
employment issues, uh, freight traffic,

2648
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,920
grade crossings, obviously any effects

2649
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,400
to local infrastructure,

2650
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,600
um, environmental or safety concerns,

2651
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,239
and any proposed merger conditions or

2652
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:13,199
agreements. ments with other

2653
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,360
communities. I think those are the items

2654
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,400
that we want to help look out for uh

2655
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,360
that could impact the city. U I wanted

2656
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,520
to highlight two upcoming dates that we

2657
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,920
should be aware of. Uh the preliminary

2658
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,560
environmental comments are due September

2659
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,360
21st and the primary deadline for

2660
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,840
comments, protests and requests for

2661
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,679
conditions is November 18th. Um and so

2662
01:42:37,679 --> 01:42:39,920
the the parties will be providing those

2663
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,400
comments. uh we are obviously able to

2664
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,119
weigh in uh following their preliminary

2665
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:47,199
environmental comments which will be due

2666
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:50,719
again September 21st. We can then submit

2667
01:42:50,719 --> 01:42:53,280
uh comments, protests and requests for

2668
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,679
conditions by November 18th. So we will

2669
01:42:55,679 --> 01:42:57,760
work with uh our points of contact to

2670
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,600
make sure that uh everyone has an

2671
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:05,990
opportunity to weigh in um in this way.

2672
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,560
Then moving to another top. Yeah, happy

2673
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:09,760
to answer any questions before I move

2674
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:10,320
on.

2675
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:11,440
>> Real quick, we had one question about

2676
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:13,119
the Norfick Southern Party of Record

2677
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:14,560
update. Mr. Volison,

2678
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,600
>> course, Mr. Chair. Um, Mr. Binkley,

2679
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,159
we've as a city, we've had meetings to

2680
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:21,679
determine, you know, some of those

2681
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:23,760
unresolved uh Norfolk Southern

2682
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,520
commitments and potential issues and

2683
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,000
comments. Um, and so I just wanted to

2684
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,280
make sure that we're able to get those

2685
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,600
uh moving forward in this merger

2686
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,520
process. So uh I'm not sure what the

2687
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,040
best way to do that is but we need to

2688
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,520
make sure that we transmit those to you

2689
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,040
because there are quite a few of them um

2690
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,520
that we've identified whether it's at

2691
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,679
grade crossings whether it's derelict

2692
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:48,320
properties whether it's um you know land

2693
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,360
that may be uh contaminated. Uh so there

2694
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,679
are a lot of issues that we have um

2695
01:43:53,679 --> 01:43:55,440
being the former headquarters of Norfolk

2696
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:57,920
Southern that um we would make want to

2697
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,199
make sure that those things get into

2698
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:02,159
this uh merger agreement.

2699
01:44:02,159 --> 01:44:04,000
that sounds like the type perfect type

2700
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,360
of feedback that they would be looking

2701
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,639
for. And so if you have raw notes as a

2702
01:44:08,639 --> 01:44:10,480
result of those meetings, we'd be happy

2703
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,159
to clean them up and and put them in the

2704
01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:15,119
format uh for which we need to submit

2705
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:17,920
them or we could do a call separate uh

2706
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,159
outside of this uh just to get a

2707
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:22,400
download from you all on what those

2708
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,280
issues were. So defer to you on how best

2709
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,360
to transmit that information, but we'd

2710
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:31,520
be happy to get it into the format and clean that up and and and submit it

2711
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,239
for you, help submit it.

2712
01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:36,080
>> Um I see Mr. Bratton.

2713
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:37,520
>> Yeah, Mr. Bratton, please come down. I

2714
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:38,800
think I appreciate that question, Mr.

2715
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,040
Vol. I was wondering the same.

2716
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,800
>> Yes, sir. Please come down.

2717
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,800
>> Um good morning. As we start to become

2718
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,239
as they start to transition out,

2719
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:48,320
nonoperating becomes I mean operating

2720
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,760
becomes nonoperating, that becomes

2721
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,360
taxable. We're starting to get lists

2722
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,440
now. we can't get responses from the

2723
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:55,760
railroad as far as you know what these

2724
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,280
properties mean. So we would love to

2725
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,119
make sure that they understand that we

2726
01:44:59,119 --> 01:45:01,119
need to have somebody appropriate one

2727
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:03,280
some kind some person there that we can

2728
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:04,880
talk with because we're having problems

2729
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,040
matching a lot of this stuff up because

2730
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,280
before it was just coordinates and

2731
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:10,639
things like that. So we really it

2732
01:45:10,639 --> 01:45:14,560
becomes taxable even beyond the um some

2733
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,239
of the issues a lot of that property

2734
01:45:16,239 --> 01:45:18,320
becomes taxable as becomes nonoperating.

2735
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,239
So, we'd like that to survive any sort

2736
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:22,080
of agreement.

2737
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,080
>> Thank you. Before you go, Mr. Bratton,

2738
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,560
how do we You might You maybe you were

2739
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,560
about to say this. Sorry. Uh but how do

2740
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,800
we close that loop to make sure that the

2741
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,600
concerns and questions you have are um

2742
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,840
getting to the right team? Is that a

2743
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,520
>> We need a committed conduit. I mean, we

2744
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,360
don't have when we when we reach out. I

2745
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,199
mean, Mr. Volison has been trying to get

2746
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:42,239
in touch with We've been trying to get

2747
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:43,440
in touch with Ruben. I know we've had

2748
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:45,280
some projects we worked on. We just need

2749
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,040
somebody committed to corresponding with

2750
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,719
us so that we can match this stuff up

2751
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:49,920
because there's a lot of assets over

2752
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:51,280
there. I mean, we they're non they've

2753
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:52,880
been when they become nonoperating,

2754
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,440
they're taxable. So, if nothing else,

2755
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:57,199
there's uh that that's part of what we

2756
01:45:57,199 --> 01:45:59,679
get back and having them here.

2757
01:45:59,679 --> 01:46:02,080
>> This board, did you want to add to that?

2758
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:05,360
>> Yes. [clears throat] Um, Councilman Vol

2759
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,199
has also met with the director of public

2760
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:09,600
works, Ross Campbell, and so he was also

2761
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,760
touching base with his staff. So, we'll

2762
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,360
just make sure that we expand that to

2763
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,440
other departments and get a consolidated

2764
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:17,119
list and we can send it out to you all

2765
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:18,320
to make sure that we have everything

2766
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,239
included and get it submitted.

2767
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:21,679
>> Mr. Bratton, you said I'm sorry.

2768
01:46:21,679 --> 01:46:23,280
>> Yeah, we'll reach out to other

2769
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:24,320
departments as well.

2770
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,040
>> Okay. Does that sound good?

2771
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,520
>> Thank you both very much.

2772
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,199
>> Any other questions on the Norfick

2773
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:34,080
Southern Party of Record update?

2774
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,600
>> Okay. Sorry about that, Mr. Binkley.

2775
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,000
I'll turn it back over to you.

2776
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,639
>> Nope. All good feedback. Thank you. Um

2777
01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:43,119
and then the other um immediate priority

2778
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:47,199
is to a schedule a virtual uh delegation

2779
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:50,719
visit uh with um interested parties with

2780
01:46:50,719 --> 01:46:53,840
the city and uh our elected leadership

2781
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,679
and our congressional uh delegation

2782
01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:57,440
members. So you'd have representative

2783
01:46:57,440 --> 01:46:59,840
from both senator's offices and uh

2784
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,840
congressman Klein's office. all parties

2785
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:05,520
have been um eager to participate um but

2786
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,840
have been uh difficult to schedule just

2787
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,400
with all of the election activity uh

2788
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,719
going on this fall. So, we're circling

2789
01:47:12,719 --> 01:47:14,639
in a on a date right now that will work

2790
01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:16,719
for everybody. Um really the challenge

2791
01:47:16,719 --> 01:47:18,639
again has been scheduling, especially in

2792
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:24,080
light of uh the ongoing election um and especially two of your uh delegation

2793
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,000
members wrapped up and their staffs

2794
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,480
wrapped up in that. Um but it was

2795
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:31,199
valuable to hear um the debate and

2796
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:32,639
discussion around our legislative

2797
01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:34,719
priorities. Obviously, many of those

2798
01:47:34,719 --> 01:47:37,040
will be points of discussion for this uh

2799
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,000
visit. We can use this as a valuable

2800
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,400
opportunity to go over those legislative

2801
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,000
priorities and the ones that have a

2802
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,159
federal nexus. Uh we can also get

2803
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:48,880
feedback from them on on items that they

2804
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,480
want to prioritize through the

2805
01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:52,239
congressionally uh directed spending

2806
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:55,040
process. um and so can have a back and

2807
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,199
forth uh discussion and dialogue with

2808
01:47:57,199 --> 01:47:59,920
our uh congressional delegation uh at

2809
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:04,800
that time. Um one other piece to that I wanted to highlight that we will

2810
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,960
prioritize and get this to you as soon

2811
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,400
as possible just based on the

2812
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,239
conversation we had earlier on the

2813
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:11,840
legislative priorities. Uh, one

2814
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,440
deliverable that you will be receiving

2815
01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:16,239
from us is a primer on congressionally

2816
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:19,040
directed spending, reminding um, anybody

2817
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,800
that would be interested in submitting

2818
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:25,119
for projects. um what the um the general

2819
01:48:25,119 --> 01:48:27,119
guidelines are, what the best practices

2820
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:29,679
are from the appropriations committee,

2821
01:48:29,679 --> 01:48:32,000
things like deadlines, and then we'll go

2822
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,159
a step further to highlight projects

2823
01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:36,400
that the city has submitted in the past,

2824
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,239
those that have been successful, those

2825
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:40,719
that haven't, our analysis on why those

2826
01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:42,320
that hadn't been successful were not

2827
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,199
successful. Um so that we can you know

2828
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:47,520
um so that as we're you know uh

2829
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:52,480
soliciting people within the city uh for priority projects we can have that

2830
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:54,400
reminder as to what had been submitted

2831
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,639
in the past what had been successful um

2832
01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:58,560
and what had not and the reason for

2833
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,719
which uh those that hadn't been

2834
01:49:00,719 --> 01:49:02,400
successful didn't move forward. So

2835
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:03,840
wanted to highlight that but we will

2836
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,239
prioritize getting you that especially

2837
01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:10,719
um understanding where you are in your process now.

2838
01:49:10,719 --> 01:49:13,119
So those were two um you know uh

2839
01:49:13,119 --> 01:49:15,119
priority updates that we wanted to to

2840
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:17,520
offer. Um and then we can hit the next

2841
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,760
slide. But uh that's the end of our

2842
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,360
presentation today. Happy to take any

2843
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:22,880
questions.

2844
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,639
>> Thank you very much. I really appreciate

2845
01:49:24,639 --> 01:49:28,159
all of that. Do we have any questions

2846
01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:30,639
from council or the city attorney's

2847
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:32,960
office or the city manager's office or

2848
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,480
any of our staff?

2849
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,719
All right. Well, Mr. Binkley, Mr. Cox,

2850
01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:40,239
thank you very much um for that

2851
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:41,920
presentation and all of the updates and

2852
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,639
we'll look forward to um staying in

2853
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:46,400
touch on the items you mentioned that

2854
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,840
we're going to be hearing from you on

2855
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,320
some of those visits and the database

2856
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,800
etc. That all sounded good to me. Um, I

2857
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,320
think the last item we have to cover

2858
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,320
today, our next legislative committee

2859
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,199
meeting is Monday, November 2nd, 2026 at

2860
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:01,440
9:00 a.m. I think a decision for us

2861
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:06,080
today is if we want to um

2862
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,080
could we finalize our legislative

2863
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,400
committee agenda at our next meeting in

2864
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,159
two weeks?

2865
01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:14,000
Does that require calling a special

2866
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,199
legislative committee meeting or can we

2867
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:17,199
do it there? Do we need to or can we?

2868
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:18,880
What's the preference? In two weeks or a

2869
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,400
month to finalize this? I'd kind of like

2870
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,000
to get it done in two weeks if we can,

2871
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,400
but I don't want to force it forward if

2872
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,719
it's not going to be ready. Mr.

2873
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:27,280
Ballison,

2874
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,600
>> inclined for us to do it in two in two

2875
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,840
weeks, but I also with the discussion

2876
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,840
about the housing study being on

2877
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:35,679
November 1st.

2878
01:50:35,679 --> 01:50:37,600
>> Yeah, that was going to be my

2879
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,000
>> behoove us to do it uh

2880
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,560
>> the second to, you know, see what

2881
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,960
happens with that.

2882
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:45,199
>> Yeah.

2883
01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:46,080
>> Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor,

2884
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,920
>> maybe maybe Vice Mayor, we could have a

2885
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:53,520
draft. um document um for the 19th or

2886
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,400
maybe

2887
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,920
>> final final final draft.

2888
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,280
>> Yeah.

2889
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,280
>> Second once we have this information

2890
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:05,119
related to the housing edu to fully

2891
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:08,000
adopt.

2892
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:09,920
>> Sounds good to me. That sounds good to

2893
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,480
everyone else.

2894
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:14,639
All right. Um well, one last item. I

2895
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:16,159
didn't have a chance to This is a

2896
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:17,920
federal legislative item. Um I didn't

2897
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,360
have a chance to work on it or prepare

2898
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,639
it, but I will touch base with each of

2899
01:51:20,639 --> 01:51:22,880
you individually. We received requests

2900
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,880
from several members of the community,

2901
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,280
including our former um council

2902
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:28,960
colleague, not when I was on council,

2903
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,520
and citizen of the year, Rupert Cutler,

2904
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,679
um asking the city of Rono to follow the

2905
01:51:33,679 --> 01:51:36,159
lead of several other Virginia cities

2906
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:39,040
that have weighed in with a letter to uh

2907
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,520
a comment letter urging um the

2908
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,080
administration to drop their roadless

2909
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:48,159
rule um changes, which um is um of

2910
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:50,480
consequence to a lot of protected lands

2911
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,000
and national parks.

2912
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,480
um around us and throughout uh Virginia.

2913
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,080
And so I think Harrisonenberg and some

2914
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,480
other places are putting in um comments.

2915
01:51:58,480 --> 01:52:00,480
We had that request. I apologize for not

2916
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:02,480
having that draft ready today. The

2917
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:05,520
comment deadline does close tomorrow. So

2918
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,040
I want you all to consider it. I'll talk

2919
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,880
to you. Um I'm glad to draft something

2920
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,239
up um if it's of council interest. But

2921
01:52:12,239 --> 01:52:13,119
just wanted to put that out there

2922
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:14,560
because I promised Mr. Cutler I'd bring

2923
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,960
it up. Um

2924
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,800
so if there last call if there's no

2925
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,840
other b business I will adjourn um our

2926
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,159
meeting for today.

2927
01:52:24,159 --> 01:52:25,679
All right we'll meet again on November

2928
01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:29,990
2nd. Thank you all.

2929
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,800
» Thank you vice mayor uh for your

2930
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,960
leadership of that the committee. Uh

2931
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:39,040
great accomplishments today. Um, unless

2932
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,119
uh we have any follow-up questions or

2933
01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:43,280
items for our consideration from

2934
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,520
council, we will recess uh until 2:00

2935
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,639
p.m. for our closed meetings. Thank you

2936
01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:53,639
all.