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I would like to call this meeting of the Robinsdale Area Schools School Board to order. Today is Monday, June 1st, 2026. It is 7 p.m., we are in the boardroom of the Education Service Center. And I would like to say welcome everyone, especially our little list attendees tonight. And we will start off with our land acknowledgement read by Director Brinteson. Thank you. We acknowledge Robinsdale Area Schools is located on the homelands of the Dakota and

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Ojibwe people. We recognize the painful history of genocide and force

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assimilation of the indigenous inhabitants of this land. We honor or respect the

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many indigenous peoples who live and hold sacred these lands and we stand with

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members of these nations to fight injustice in all of its forms. We uphold the

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preservation of Dakota and Ojibwe languages, land-based education and tribal

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sovereignty. Thank you. At this time I would like to have our clerk take the role.

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with pleasure. Thank you. Dr. Moutel, here. Director Long. Here. Director

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Hillenbrand. Here. Chair Evans Becker. Here. Director Brenneson. Here. Director

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Bowman-Marx herself. Here. Director Bassett. Here. We have a quorum. Extra and superintendent

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Salo. Oh, I'm sorry. And Dr. Salo. Here. Here we go. We're all here. Excellent. Okay. First thing

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Moving up is approval of the agenda. Do I have a move to approve our agenda?

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Move by Dr. Princeton. Seconded by Director Huto. All in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed say no.

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We have an agenda and I am very excited about Ardell Proud early learning, Superintendent

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Sallow.

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Yes, we are delighted to have some amazing adults with us tonight and some absolutely

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amazing young students who are going to highlight for us the powerful role of outdoor and

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and nature-based learning experiences

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in their early childhood education.

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The early learning team will share how outdoor experiences

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support young children's emotional well-being,

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encourage creativity and foster important social skills,

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such as cooperation, communication, and problem-solving.

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So with that, I'm gonna hand it over to Emily Levinson

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to take it from here.

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Thanks for being here, everyone.

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I am the director of early learning and I am so excited to shine a spotlight on early learning and share how our early learning students are growing through nature and outdoor learning.

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I would like to first read our district mission but my button is not working.

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Molly, there we go. Alright, join with me if you would like. Our mission is to

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inspire and educate all learners to develop their unique potential and

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positively contribute to their community.

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Hi Arthur, layered on top of our

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district mission, we have an early learning vision statement. Robinsdale area

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schools early learning programs strive to provide a welcoming and culturally

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responsive community that encourages lifelong learning connection and play for all children

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and caregivers.

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Before we hear more about outdoor learning, I'd like to just take a moment

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to share a bit more about the early learning program. As you can see, there are many programs

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and community supports that fall under the early learning umbrella.

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And while these programs all differ a little bit slightly, slightly different. They are unified by our vision statement and the shared belief that we are here to support all young children and their families. So under the early learning umbrella, we have early childhood screening, early childhood family education, voluntary, pre-k, both at New Hope Learning Center and at Smeda Lake, Forest, Saucin, Neal, Noble, Northport, and Lakeview, early childhood.

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special education, fee-based preschool, early intervention, and

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helping us grow, which is a unique collaboration of

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Hanifeng County School Districts, their early childhood family education departments,

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and the Robinson area redesign family service collaborative.

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Here are a few data points early learning by the numbers I like to say.

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We have over 400 children enrolled in our preschool programs, and

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And a hundred and twenty one of those students are receiving early childhood special education services and are served in an inclusive classroom that meets their needs.

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Our family education program serves over five hundred and seventy children and their families, more early childhood special education students early intervention.

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And we have served 88 students and families through our hug home visiting and literacy events.

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So you can see lots of children and families are served under the early learning umbrella over a thousand.

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We also complete roughly 800 to 850 early childhood screens every year.

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We have two licensed administrators, 60 licensed staff, 51 non-licensed,

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so a lot of people supporting young children and their families.

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I'd like to introduce the team that I've brought with me tonight across the

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table. So I'm going to start with staff. So I've got Sarah Tinklinberg who's the

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early learning supervisor. Emily Mackie is one of our early childhood special

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education teachers and then Janet Reign is one of our preschool teachers. We

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also have some, oops, I can't click and move. We have some very special guests with us.

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Monica, you give away Monica and Lucy from

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them a little bit later in the

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presentation, but for now I'm at a pass it on to Sarah. Thank you Emily you're

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gonna be my clicker. So we love getting outside and at new hope and in our early

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learning programs and we like bringing nature in. So our outdoor nature-based

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learning supports young children's academic growth, their physical growth, emotional

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well-being, creativity, and social development through hands-on, developmentally appropriate

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experiences.

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And before we take a closer look at some of those specific experiences, I just want to

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briefly share information about our primary curriculum that we use, which is Creative

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Crickulum for Pre-School.

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Creative Crickulum is evidence-based, play-based, whole-child curriculum that aligns with the

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early childhood indicators of progress, which is like the Minnesota State standards for

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early for littles and then creative curriculum learning center centered around hands on engaging

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studies that encourage children to explore and discover through play. Gardening happens

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to be one of the many study topics available to teachers which provide children the opportunity

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to learn about nature science and the environment through direct experience. All right so there's

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going to be some good pictures coming up above our classes and gardening again is an excellent hands-on

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learning tool that promotes holistic development, engages children in lots of sensory exploration,

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builds those motor skills, foundational science and math concepts, and also nurturing plants,

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fosters, responsibility, can relieve stress and encourages healthier eating habits. I mean,

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it's a very, a start. All right, now for the fun part, as you view the next few slides, you'll see

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our students engaged in gardening activities while hearing from teachers Janet and Emily about the

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learning experiences that took place in their classrooms. So we're going to start with Janet.

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You might see some familiar faces, girls.

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Hello.

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My name is Janet Ryan and I teach five day preschool classes for ages four and five

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at New Hope and Lutheran, Anika, or two of my afternoon students. During the gardening unit of study,

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we learned about the life cycle of plants, what they need to grow, and the tools used to care for them,

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but before we planted in the garden beds located on the playground, I had the students look at the

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garden bed. Some of these pictures are showing that.

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To make a plan, what would be the best place to plant things? What tools would we need? Then they began to prepare the soil, dig holes, and plant the flowers and seeds. Each day they've been caring for their plants by pulling weeds and watering the garden. Planting outdoors has allowed them to use thinking skills, ask questions, and have the opportunity to participate in a real life hands-on learning experience.

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All right.

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Hi, my name is Emily and I teach one of our center-based classes with three

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to four-year-olds including our friend Arthur over here at New Hope Learning Center.

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Students in my class are in the most restrictive setting and are building.

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They require small students to adult ratio so that they can participate in school within

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small groups and one-on-one support. These students also benefit from an adaptive curriculum

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to meet them where they're at in all areas of development.

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For our garden study, these students benefit from having the activities broken down

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so they can really participate in them and enjoy them.

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So for our class, you can see in the pictures here, we started creating a sign for our garden bed.

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So they got to color it and just make it really interesting to look at.

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we put it out in our garden bed so we could find it then when we were out on the playground.

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And with that, we're targeting our fine motor skills and our problem-solving to do so.

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Then we used paint to decorate our garden bed. This encouraged my students to engage their

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social and emotional skills as they interacted with other peers out on the playground as well

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from other classes.

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Next we used our problem-solving skills and more motor skills to choose our plants where

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to put them in the garden and how to put them into the ground.

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Our senses were engaged as we felt the dirt in various flowers and later as we go on

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the playground other days, we check our flowers, see how they're growing, we water them and

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the students are just really proud to see their work every day.

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Thank you, Emily.

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Moving on to caterpillars.

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This was a very exciting thing

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that we've had over the last few weeks.

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So we've learned, all of our questions had the opportunity

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to learn about hatching caterpillars.

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And it can be incorporated into one

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of the creative curriculum studies of insect

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or offered as a standalone.

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And so, again, some of those fun hands-on activities.

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I'm gonna just kinda go through a little quicker,

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just for the sake of our kids wanna talk.

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But yeah, so they really learned about taking care of living creatures, sought from the

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little caterpillar, watched to eat the food, turned into the chrysalis, and then waited

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for the hatching.

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And so I'm going to let our teachers share again how that played out in their classrooms.

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All right.

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So having caterpillars is a fun and hands-on learning to add to our insect study within our curriculum.

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This school year, I happen to have some students with high interest in bugs.

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So as you can guess, that was very fun for them.

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So through observation, video, my students were able to take their learning within this study to a whole other level by taking care of the caterpillars and watching them grow.

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They were mesmerized to see them as butterflies and this gave them multiple opportunities for student voice in their learning and exploring.

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So,

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the caterpillars were a perfect addition to our insect unit of study.

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The students were able to closely observe the metamorphosis into a butterfly.

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From the moment the caterpillars arrived, the students were checking on them several times

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a day and anticipating the next phase of the butterfly life cycle.

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Students were using their observation skills, their communication skills, when sharing information.

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Literacy and math skills naturally emerged when students doodled about the changes and

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tracked each day until the first butterfly finally emerged.

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Again, this activity provided a tangible experience for students to see

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and observe the butterfly life cycle in real time.

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Okay, so now we're going to let our guests jump in.

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And this is a song that Ms. Janet's class also did the insect study.

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And they learned this song as part of an end of the unit celebration of learning.

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And so we would love it if our special guests on a cone Lucy joined in and we're going to play the video

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We figured it was safer to do it this way than to try to do it live

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And you are welcome to car you ready?

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Okay, here's you get to hold the microphone

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Other things I wanted to highlight that make our learning fun and special, especially when it's nice outside is we have a mud kitchen. Now, I don't know if you've seen mud kitchens before it's not like your home kitchen, you get a little dirty. Well, maybe you get a little dirty in your home kitchen, too. But it really is a fan favorite. A student favorite provides powerful, open-ended sensory experiences, engaging with cooking with dirt, water, and natural materials. They, again, work on those critical fine motor skills, practice early stem concepts, like volume and measurement.

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and so we just feel so lucky we have this in this grassy area

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and in the mud kitchen and a place for gardens.

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And so Janet and Emily do you want to just say a few words

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about how your students engage with the mud kitchen?

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So these pictures are just a combination of our two classes.

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That mud kitchen provides another opportunity for students

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to participate in a hands-on experience.

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It offers open and inflate that include those fun sensory experiences.

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It provides a chance for students to use social skills when sharing materials and academic

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skills like measuring ingredients, cause and effect.

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Students will collect pine cones and rocks and grass and leaves to use in their play which

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encourages using their imagination and experimenting with those materials during play.

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And in these pictures, my students were making cupcakes and tea for a party we were having.

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I'm sure they would have welcomed you to join them.

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All right, before we hear from our special guests, one more time, I wanted to share something

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from another one of our teachers who couldn't make it tonight, where she does a lot of

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bringing the learning from the outside inside the classroom.

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And so here is a life cycle of a pumpkin.

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So this teacher literally from beginning to end, she just rotates this pumpkin, so in the

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spring time, they get, well in the fall, they're coming back to the gardens growing.

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So they'll start by taking care of plants that were already planted by the previous class.

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Then the pumpkins grow, they bring them in, they weigh them, they measure them, they

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carve out the seeds to replant again in the spring.

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And then they put it inside this sensory bin where they watch it decompose.

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And in some of the pictures, oh you can see the kids, I mean most of the teachers go in

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there and are like you, but the kids love it, they love watching it grow.

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And so I just really think this highlights some innovative work some of our teachers do.

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The same teacher also brought in this beautiful plant and they did a still life study with that and the children

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observed it and picked out colors and painted their version. And then finally, the last slide shows

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some pictures of them planting seeds and plants for them to take home as well as planting grass in small sensory bins to have on the tables for children to use in their

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imaginative play.

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All right, enough from the adult, so I think we need to interview some of our special guests, so Miss Janet, are you ready?

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Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?

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Miss Lucy, okay, here we go.

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What did you grow in our garden?

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Flowers and pumpkin.

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And what do plants need to grow?

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Oh, it was seed, and dirt, and sun, and air, and white.

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And what

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making pumpkin?

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It's panning the pumpkins, yes, in the garden.

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But right by that, it's a big blue cracker.

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Will you both use the microphone when you talk?

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That would be great.

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Thanks.

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I think it was my teacher and my son.

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Let me ask you the question.

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What happens after a caterpillar turns into a chrysalis?

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It turns into a butterfly.

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And what did you like best about the caterpillars?

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How they opened up and how I learned it, how they opened up.

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And if you were a butterfly, where would you fly?

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To go get some nectar from a butterfly.

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Oh, look at the flowers here.

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We're going to see if Arthur can tell us what he likes best now. All right, Arthur, did you like the caterpillars or the garden? I like the garden. A garden. What did you like doing in the garden? Stick the stick.

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Water out there. Acorns. Acorns.

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he really wants to go.

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any questions? I would just like to say thank you to all of the grown-ups and thank you

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to all of our special student guests. You did an excellent job. Thank you.

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Thank you. Have you ever had a question? I do have a question. Oh, I'd direct your

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That's a question.

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Oh, yes.

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Sorry.

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I want to thank you.

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Yes, too.

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Thank you all for being here.

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Especially, you know, our young guests here.

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We did a great job.

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Great reading.

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Great singing.

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We did a great job.

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Okay.

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So now I have some questions for the teachers.

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Is it okay?

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Yeah.

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I'll make for it so you can take it.

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Okay.

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So I do wonder.

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You seem so well.

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You are successful.

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I came over and I visited.

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And I just had a great time.

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One of the things I'm wondering about is the capture rate of our program district-wide.

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How many of our fans do we have a sense of that?

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What is our capture rate about young children in that age range?

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Do we get?

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Yes.

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I have some data around the four and five year olds who attend preschool right before they

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go to kindergarten.

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And over the last, I think I have data for seven years maybe.

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it has been over 88% or higher.

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I think at the highest, I have like 95%.

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And that I just have measured if they were in preschool

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with us before they went to kindergarten,

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and then they went to kindergarten,

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and were enrolled on the first day.

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That is excellent.

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And I really think that that is something to be celebrated.

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And I like it because as you know,

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a capture rate is very important.

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If we're capturing that percentage of young families

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and their children run off the bat.

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That's a good thing.

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That's something to celebrate.

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Something to actually highlight and acknowledge.

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And I had one other question, Chair.

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All right.

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Okay, great.

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What are you going to ask?

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What do you think?

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What do you want me to say?

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Where would she hurry up?

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So I wanted to, as I listened to your presentation about outdoor space,

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I'm sure you probably have heard about the famous C-School Pumpkins

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and the pumpkin drop and all that.

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And then I know that over in Zachary Lane they got a seven dreams grant and they've been doing some gardening.

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So one of the things I'm thinking about, and I particularly remember in a conversation I had with our executive director of teaching and learning,

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talking about scope and sequence. And so with regard, and then so that's one thought not fully formed but a thought.

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And then the rest of the other part of that is if we have these initiatives that we hope

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to be part of our brand, environmental spaces and all of that, how can we mind the best

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that has been learned from each of those sites about what they've done and then is there

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ever an opportunity for collaboration among those programs?

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Now, I don't think that's really a fair question seriously because I don't know that that's

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been contemplated, but maybe it has been contemplated and I just don't know.

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So, but I do think going forward into the future, if in fact we want to connect programs

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and brand them in particular environmental spaces and outdoor learning environments and

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And all of that, to the extent that we can capture what has been learned,

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mine and across the district, and have some kind of synergy.

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Because one of the things we talk about is wanting to have all of our neighborhood schools,

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to have, and I'm not sure to what extent they even have, the elementary's even have some of the students that you speak of.

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But I think you, can you speak to that Emily, what are your thoughts about what I'm saying?

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Well, I can speak to it from an early learning standpoint.

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Yeah, of course, I think it is great when we can replicate.

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I will say, well, the majority of the things that you saw here happen at New Hope Learning

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Center, right, where the majority of the early learning program is.

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We do make sure that our preschool teachers that are at the elementary buildings have the opportunity. They don't have garden beds. It's just a little bit more difficult. But they have the opportunity to do the caterpillars. We make sure that they can participate in that right. So whether you're in preschool at New Hope Learning Center or Meta Lake or Lakeview, you have some similar outdoor experiences. Obviously they have access to the same curriculum, things like that. Thank you. I think that was a great answer. Thank you so much.

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Thank you, but it's just food for thought.

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I mean, for me, it's food for thought this presentation

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is about the future as we talk about it.

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Okay, Dr. Brinteson.

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Just real quick.

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So you mentioned it's something I think

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a lot of the public doesn't realize.

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I think people when they hear about early childhood,

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they only assume it's happening in New Hope Elementary.

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Correct.

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It's happening various other places too.

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I just want to make sure.

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Yes, yeah, majority of our programming,

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I would say 90% of it is at New Hope Learning Center,

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But we do have pre-school voluntary pre-k classrooms at currently our seven community schools that I listed off next year

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It will be at five and we have two sections at each building. So a morning class and an afternoon class

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Wonderful. Thank you to you

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Thank you. Great. I just want to thank the staff the amazing students and families for being here tonight

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You reminded us of something that we should continue to work on taking to scale across all of our learning,

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which is ensuring that kids are highly engaged in that which they care most about,

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even if that's bugs and mud and all of the things.

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So thanks for modeling, learning, and excitement, and joy.

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We appreciate you, and if we could get a quick picture, that would be fantastic.

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I think

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it is so exciting

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and they get a certificate.

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I don't even get a certificate what I want.

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Look at that tiny little baby.

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Oh, I don't think so.

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I don't think so.

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I don't think so.

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There's light here.

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There's light.

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Here comes.

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Is that your big brother, that is a nice big brother.

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Indeed.

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I think I'm hidden enough.

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No, no, no.

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Yeah, yeah, they're off center for the summit.

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Okay,

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Peter and try to top that, right?

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Do you want to put that down?

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Yeah, I do.

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Unless you brought train for years, I don't know.

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32 years and 2000 presentations and I can't talk to that one.

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All right.

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That was something.

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Next up on our agenda, we have a special report.

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The district is contracted with the Morris Leatherman company.

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I'd like to conduct a phone survey with district residents.

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and he will, and Peter Leatherman will provide a presentation to the school board with the data that they have obtained and review this data with us and you need that anything.

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I don't welcome thanks for being here and for providing this report to us.

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Pleasure.

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This is really, it was really fascinating time to do research in the district.

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I was really excited to see what residents were feeling because last time I was here was

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This last November, and you were facing some very difficult decisions. So we have a data point that we can face and see where the districts, attitudes and opinions are moving forward. Just to review with everybody what we undertook for the district. We spoke with, this is the same methodology that we did in November. And we wanted to look at parents again with decisions that have been made and everything facing it, has there been a change in their opinion, not only the community as a whole.

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So, we have a 400 sample of residents and a 400 sample of parents.

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Always the 400 sample is plus or minus 5% in 95 out of 100 cases.

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This is hot off the presses.

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Calls were completed last week between May 13th and the 26th.

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Average interview time was 10 minutes.

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It's a cell phone only, household 66%, landline only,

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we're down to single digits, 9%, and then 25% have both landlines and cell phones.

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Putting up the demographics of the overall, no major changes from a few months ago.

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The typical resident has lived in the community for about 12 years.

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The typical resident is about 46 and a half years old.

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10% have a preschooler or an infant in their household.

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Well, 23% have a child attending the Robin's Day, or in the school district.

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So just under one in four are the key constituents.

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Continuing, just under a third are renters.

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Self-assessed home value comes in roughly at about $340,000.

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43% are college graduates, including post-graduates,

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20% high school graduates are less with 37% having some college experience.

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You can see the geographic distribution with crystal followed by new hole,

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Plymouth, Rob and Stale, Golden Valley, and then Brooklyn Center and Brooklyn Park.

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Looking at the ethnicity, just under two thirds of residents indicated white,

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19% African American, 7% Hispanic Latino, 6% Asian Pacific Islander, and

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25% multiracial.

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What I've been very interested to see over the past six weeks is the financial situation

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of the household.

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It was going down in the first two months, the number of financially stressed in 2026.

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Just if we draw a line, the highest level of financial stress that we have is the first

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quarter of 2023.

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23. Twin inflation was 9% and all of that has continued to move down. So it was the issue facing school districts in 23 and 24.

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We got into the mid-forties last year. We'd moved down to the low 30s in the first part of 26.

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Now we are seeing an increase across, you know, doing surveys in Wisconsin, doing surveys in Minnesota just in the past six weeks.

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So that low 30s now has moved into the high 30s and you're actually at 41%.

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So this is something that's going to be completely out of your control.

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What gas price is on election day is going to be a huge driver.

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And if you can guess that, you'll probably win the lottery next week.

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So it's something to be cognizant of.

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It's still not at the level we were in 23.

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Okay. This question is very important though because the higher level you have

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have a financially stressed households, it creates a person who would support something, they can't afford it.

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They're not making a decision on what the funding request is, they simply don't have the money.

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So it's something to monitor.

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If the Conflict War, whatever ends gas prices come down, this issue will be abated.

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But if it continues, it's something just completely out of your control, you have to be cognizant of as you're going through plan.

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Now, a couple of open-endeds upfront, what do they like most, your teachers?

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They love your teachers here.

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We combine a couple categories, but teachers is always number one in Ravensdale.

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Good academics, excellent academics, just under 20 percent.

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The variety of programming, the broad curriculum, just over 20 percent.

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So your hierarchy here is the staff, and then the programming and the academic quality is

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what people value.

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Now, if we ask what they like most, we always follow up with the most serious issue.

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This is the same most serious issue across the state of Minnesota.

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It's interesting, yours is a little less intense.

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What we saw lack of funding between 20 and 25% last year.

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We're now seeing in between 25 and 30% this year a more growing awareness.

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More districts are making budget cuts.

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That's the discussions are happening, those legislature argued about education.

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Monday for four months. So it has put more of a spotlight. Your other issue is going to be the issue of the 26 election, and that's property taxes. We're going to look at property taxes a little bit more in depth. It is second place everywhere in the state, doesn't matter if I'm in grand rapids, midiota, or in robin stale, but you're in that 15 to 20% just off the top of the mine response. Large class sizes at 10% poor spending, 9%

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Back down to the historical number, every district has about 10% of people that talk about

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poor spending. Facilities issues, unprompted, so one in 12 people are thinking about facilities

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issues as the most serious issue already before we get into the survey.

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Lack of discipline, declining quality, and then the $20 million budget issue.

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So, you're back to being representative to what we see elsewhere in the metro area.

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The two biggest issues are the lack of funding and high taxes.

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What about the quality of education?

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Now, I'm going to insert the parent data here so we can look at the atmospheric amongst

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the parents.

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And to be consistent, the green is the overall for this year.

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The yellow is the parents for this year.

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So when I was here, the last fall, 75% rated the quality favorably, 77% rated favorably now amongst parents, 87% rated favorably.

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You're right in line to what we're seeing in 2026.

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The statewide I just did, we were in the high 70s for a norm on the quality of education.

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It is not recovered, and I don't see it recovering anytime quickly on the perception on the quality of that.

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and you're right at the norm for excellence,

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the enthusiastic rating at 11%.

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What about the quality compared to four years ago?

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Not before the pandemic, post pandemic.

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We want to do an apples to apples comparison.

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So amongst the overall, 34% say it's better,

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13% say it's worse.

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So it's a three to one ratio

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of people feel like it's moving in the right direction.

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A month's parents, it's 44 to 10, 4 to 1 ratio, moving in the right direction.

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You can see back and last year, it was 29 to 12.

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So even, there's a more positive momentum you're already starting to see in the survey

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about things improving just in six months about how they're feeling about the district.

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Here's another big change in a few months.

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Rob is the area school district is a high quality school district that this reputation is so good families seek to buy homes in the district and prefer it to other school districts.

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That was a 50-50 proposition last fall.

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Now 65% was 68% of parents indicating that that's the case.

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Does the district meet the learning needs of all students?

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Most, only some are very few.

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43% set all students this time amongst parents 46% right at what we're seeing

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where it's right about 45% this hasn't recovered there are very few districts

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that are over 50% of residents saying the districts meeting all students

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learning needs it's a stringent standard we follow up and that's what's the

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rate in the lower right hand corner with those that say most only summer very

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few, is there a type of Lord's students who's learning needs are not being met. It's the same as

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everywhere else. It is the average student, the struggling student, and special education.

445
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Some perceptions.

446
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,960
First off, does the district spend taxpayers' money effectively and efficiently?

447
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:06,200
In 2024, 69% said yes. Last fall, it dropped to 50%. It's back to 60%, and amongst parents,

448
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,460
it's 68 percent. You're right about the norm now. You haven't recovered fully from 2024,

449
00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:18,900
but the rebound has already started. Do you consider all alternatives before you ask

450
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:25,780
residents for a property tax increase? 66 percent this time, 69 percent a month's parents,

451
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:33,440
that's up four points, getting close to the back to the 72 percent. Are the schools a good value

452
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:43,760
for their investment. Now that did not take a hit in 2025 but as a caveat here we're seeing

453
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,620
this drop everywhere and because two things go into when you ask somebody to do a value

454
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:55,360
proposition. What's the quality of education and how much am I paying for it? Well across

455
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,860
the state of Minnesota there's a concern about the quality and property tax.

456
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,560
So this is dropping everywhere. And you're going to see a very big increase in the amount of people concerned about property taxes. But at the same time, the value proposition for them has remained the same, which is very, very strong. Does the quality public schools increase property values? That went up 12 points from 60 to 72% amongst parents, 78%.

457
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:31,960
Do they trust you to do what's right for children?

458
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:39,680
That's back to where we were in 24, with 77%, 83%, indicating that that's the case.

459
00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:49,040
I think that this is really a key factor in what's helped the district so much is through everything that's gone on.

460
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,280
They still feel that the district's done a good job of involving the community, okay?

461
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,280
Okay, you might disagree and Minnesotans have a very difficult time overcoming.

462
00:45:59,780 --> 00:46:05,900
Okay, I can have a say but I didn't get my way and so then I wasn't able to be involved.

463
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:12,660
But that is unchanged, even through the Rocky boat ride, shall we say over the past two

464
00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:19,280
years, 74%, 79% amongst parents is the district on us about spending.

465
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,560
That has started to rebound in six months.

466
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:29,500
71% in 24, down to 56%, now it's up to 62%.

467
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:35,120
And now the last question on this is kind of the first time we're looking at potential funding requests.

468
00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:40,380
The schools are a good investment and I would support a property tax increase to protect that investment.

469
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:46,800
Last year it was 61-33, now it's 59-35.

470
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:51,800
We are seeing that increase though everywhere in 2026.

471
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:58,380
that it's always the no to that question that is the core no because it's the

472
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:02,920
questions posed it doesn't talk about operating let me bond referendum it

473
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,300
doesn't talk about dollar amounts what I found in 2026 so far is the typical

474
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:14,780
core no is about 31% so you're within that margin of error just the higher that

475
00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:18,660
number is it just becomes more difficult there's just an unwillingness for the

476
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:27,080
discussion. The good news amongst parents is you always need under 20%. Because any successful

477
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:33,320
coalition for a successful referendum, you have to have 80% parent support, okay?

478
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:36,660
Job performance

479
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:38,680
ratings. These have improved.

480
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:47,600
The board was 63, dropped to 52, back up to 60. And it's rated

481
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:54,020
the norm right now, 60% favorable is what it is across the state, amongst parents 68%.

482
00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:03,220
The administration, back up to the norm, 5841, most parents 6930, teachers always loved

483
00:48:03,220 --> 00:48:10,560
an adored here, 91%, 94% amongst parents, and that's about 10 points higher, teachers

484
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:16,360
have not recovered across the state, post-pandemic, doesn't matter if there are any issues in your

485
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,740
district, Minneapolis one on strike, people get upset up in

486
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:25,160
volomic. It just happens. So that you want a very handful of

487
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,460
districts that actually is about 90% favorable on teachers. So I

488
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:32,300
think that this speaks to the governance and administration.

489
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:37,020
There's been a steadying hand that's been placed on even with

490
00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:41,040
difficult decisions that you've made over the past year and

491
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,300
difficult issues you've had to deal with. Well, they might not

492
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:49,320
be completely satisfied with where you're at, there's a sense that things are settling

493
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,560
down and moving in the right direction. And quite frankly, I would say much faster than

494
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,900
I expected. We're

495
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,840
all financial management. It's not back to where it was in 2024, but it

496
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:14,800
is a big change. So we were at 31% favorable. It's up to 44%. It's almost 25% increase.

497
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:23,400
now the norm on this still remains 52% okay that's the there are districts that are upside-down like

498
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:30,060
you are but there's not very many districts that are in the 60s like you were in 2024 so that

499
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:39,760
recovery is moving much better and I think just more reassurance more discussion about the past

500
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,740
and people though are starting to feel the stability of those decisions that have been made you know

501
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:49,340
part of it was in 2025 there's a lot of uncertainty, a lot of what ifs, a lot of

502
00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:53,200
discussions. Now the decision has been made and how to move forward.

503
00:49:57,550 --> 00:49:58,430
This is the

504
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:58,810
issue.

505
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,980
That we're going to hear about a lot this fall. In 2024, you had 46% of people say their total taxes are high. Last year, it was 60% and now it's 67%. So it's gone up 21 points, which is why I pointed out earlier that value proposition for the investment in the schools. So at a time that you have one and five more people saying my taxes are too high, they still think they're getting a good value.

506
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:35,660
here like we see basically everywhere else though when you ask about school

507
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:44,420
taxes the high goes down goes from 67 to 62 I always say we used to ask if you

508
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:49,320
think your taxes are high who do you blame citizen counties got really mad at us

509
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,960
so we quit asking it that way we ask it this way so we can ascertain that the

510
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,460
Anonymous is not focused at the district.

511
00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:00,080
I can tell you from my statewide,

512
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,680
this Anonymous is focused at the county.

513
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,940
That's the biggest issue.

514
00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:08,560
And Western Hennepin County now is becoming

515
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,220
the hotbed for the property tax issue.

516
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:13,360
These levels are very similar.

517
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,760
I've talked to political people.

518
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:17,540
This is reminiscent of the late 90s.

519
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,940
When Phil Cranky and Linda Rundack started

520
00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:22,600
the Taxpayers League of Minnesota,

521
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:29,180
That was based in a NOCA County, where a NOCA County got into the high 60s, low 70s.

522
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,720
But now, it's western end up and even prairie had very similar results on this, just two

523
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,560
weeks ago, was 69% in the high category.

524
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,780
The overall process stayed at 60% high.

525
00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:46,800
So, I mean, this is an issue that you really, there are districts that have to pit themselves

526
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:52,280
against the city and county, you know, Rochester basically went out and said, don't hold

527
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,040
If you're mad at the tax increase from the city, vote them out.

528
00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:00,440
Don't say no to the school district on this funding request.

529
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:08,390
This is what a different six months makes on this question.

530
00:52:08,930 --> 00:52:10,530
Are the schools adequately funded?

531
00:52:11,410 --> 00:52:14,790
Well, last fall, they thought it was because of the $20 million issue.

532
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:18,010
That was the issue of 65% said yes.

533
00:52:18,590 --> 00:52:21,210
Now, 40% say you're adequately funded.

534
00:52:21,210 --> 00:52:30,470
25 point in decrease, you're basically, this is pretty much across the state, 45, 45, 10, people have no idea.

535
00:52:31,090 --> 00:52:34,830
If their district isn't making cuts, the district next door is making cuts.

536
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:45,930
The discussion from the legislature, but you do have now a majority of the residents and of parents, 55 and 57% saying no, you're not at word.

537
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:54,880
This is the power of involving the community and getting information out either this was stunning to me

538
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Do the building school buildings and facilities meets the needs of educating today's children?

539
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,900
85% said yes six months ago

540
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,460
Now 58% say yes

541
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:18,180
That is a 27 point drop in six months for them moving over into the no or strongly no

542
00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:25,680
So the discussions you've had has raised the awareness of the adequacy of the current

543
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,180
buildings to provide the education for children today.

544
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,080
It's laid a very strong groundwork and a short amount of time.

545
00:53:35,790 --> 00:53:41,450
How important is it to ensure comparable spaces between buildings and facilities?

546
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:45,450
It is important to the residents, it's important to parents.

547
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:53,590
72% of the community and 81% of parents say it's either very or someone important to

548
00:53:53,590 --> 00:53:59,070
ensure comparability. Now, the issue you have is learned a lot of districts do so.

549
00:53:59,110 --> 00:54:04,630
You don't have to worry about whether this is a value. You have to do an education piece

550
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:10,050
because when you ask folks, does the district provide comparable spaces between buildings?

551
00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:16,710
a majority say yes. Now keep in mind, probably, you know, I'm going to start adding this into

552
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:22,210
school district surveys. We did it in the statewide. When was the last time you were in a school building

553
00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:30,410
in your district? Across the state in February, 45% have never been in a building in the school district

554
00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:38,910
they live. So, part of this is an awareness and education piece and bringing it in. Part of it

555
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:42,070
and also but you look at parents. Now they are in the buildings, but parents are

556
00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:47,330
jumping from six seven elementary schools. Their experience between buildings is

557
00:54:47,330 --> 00:54:51,930
going to be if their kid goes in place in an athletic event in the Nolka

558
00:54:51,930 --> 00:54:57,910
Hennepin or ASE or YZ. That's the comparability piece they're going to see much

559
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:59,970
worker the comparability between bill.

560
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,340
So, the foundations there, they believe it is important. You just have to show them where there's issues where there aren't comparable spaces between buildings.

561
00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:31,820
So, they hear the district's going to ask for a property tax increase. Are they for all, or are they against all, or are they persuadable? You start a one point ahead. 26 to 25. And in this year, the typical district is four points behind.

562
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:36,280
Meaning they have four points, more opposition than course support.

563
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,160
So, you're one point ahead, but the key is obviously going to be the persuadables.

564
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:45,460
And once again, for parents, it's 13 percent against all.

565
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,460
So they're willing to have a discussion also.

566
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:55,760
And this is driven very much linked back to that change in the perceptions that the current

567
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,680
facilities meet the needs of educating today's children.

568
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,800
If they hear the district's going to ask for a property tax increase,

569
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,940
the tax tolerance,

570
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:11,560
or let's make a deal question, first off, I look at the nothings.

571
00:56:11,740 --> 00:56:14,860
I need that to be under 35%, you're at 30.

572
00:56:15,940 --> 00:56:22,260
32% say $10 a month, 34% say $20 or more.

573
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:27,180
If we take out the nothings, because I'm not going to let them drop the amount that those

574
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:30,360
Those that are willing to see their property taxes increase, they're not going to support

575
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:30,800
anything.

576
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,680
There's nothing you're going to do to bring them along.

577
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:37,800
Those that are willing to accept a property tax increase at the outset, it's about

578
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,600
$12 a month, $150 a year.

579
00:56:41,540 --> 00:56:43,400
Is that number set in stone?

580
00:56:43,860 --> 00:56:45,400
It is not set in stone.

581
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:52,920
It's meant to give you a guideline to understand the further you go from that number, it's imperative

582
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,340
that the uses and purposes of the funding are highly supported, okay?

583
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,160
Which is why we go through two separate lists.

584
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,440
First, we looked at a property tax increase for elementary schools.

585
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:15,740
Not surprising, it's at the top of every list everywhere, safety and security, 81% support.

586
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:21,880
Then classroom additions, 65%, playground improvements, 60.

587
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:29,560
drop off parking lots 60 outdoor classroom space 55 you probably could put up

588
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,340
that presentation before me and you probably could garner a couple extra points

589
00:57:33,340 --> 00:57:42,600
of support the cafeteria and kitchen 54 gymnasium additions 49 47 sports is

590
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:48,970
always going to be at the bottom of the list at media center expansions I don't

591
00:57:48,970 --> 00:57:53,970
to think about that one being split. That typically is something that people, you know,

592
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:59,010
it would be in the high 50s. It's not one of those items that grabs people's attention.

593
00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:05,270
But the clear priorities on elementary school public spaces are safety and security, classroom

594
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:10,190
additions, playground improvements, and the drop-off and parking lots. The drop-off and parking

595
00:58:10,190 --> 00:58:18,950
lots leads—that's a safety and security issue in and of itself. It really doesn't need

596
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:24,570
to middle school and high school, and I want to read this to everybody's clear on what was asked.

597
00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:28,910
First off, it's the safety and security improvements, 79%.

598
00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:33,270
Then, renovations and expansion to Cooper High School and

599
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:40,570
the New Horp Learning Center to provide space and amenities to support a single district high school, 67% support that.

600
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:49,560
Then we go to the Renovate Plymouth Middle School to house Robinsdale Spanish immersion programs and other district programs.

601
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:56,400
times, 64% renovations and additions to convert Armstrong High School into a middle school

602
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:03,360
and space for other district programs, 63% and then the last one is outdoor class and

603
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,620
performing arts additions at Sandberg Middle, 57%.

604
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,360
So these are all, they don't have the 50-50 split.

605
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,320
Now we pulled it together into one question.

606
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,080
And for the purpose and clarity, I want to read the paragraph because we've described

607
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:26,240
total LTFF. So the total cost to complete these improvements is estimated at

608
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:32,420
$515 million of which the district can use $90 million of long-term facilities

609
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:38,360
maintenance or LTFM funding. Therefore it would still need to ask residents to

610
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,580
support a $425 million bond referendum to complete the projects we just discussed.

611
00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:59,960
If voters approve the $425 million bond referendum portion to these fund these improvements the owner of a $340,000 home would see a monthly property tax increase of about $22 per month or $264 a year.

612
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:26,900
We're here for 20 years due to the referendum. So we're about double, okay. That tax tolerance. But you can see because there's so many components that they support, you actually have a majority supporting. 58% support, 40% oppose. The first thing that's striking to me is there's not a lot of intensity.

613
01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:37,180
11% strongly support. 11% strongly oppose. It's a wash on the intensity. What I typically

614
01:00:37,180 --> 01:00:43,440
tell clients at this point in time because this is still, I mean, I guess summer starts

615
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:51,220
now. This is still an early survey. There's been no campaign. The threshold, I always like

616
01:00:51,220 --> 01:00:55,060
for these sorts of surveys. You haven't had a vote. No, you haven't had a vote. Yes, or

617
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:56,260
any of those things happen.

618
01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:58,860
You'd like to clear 60%.

619
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,220
Because typically over the course of a campaign,

620
01:01:02,580 --> 01:01:04,820
districts lose between eight and 10 points,

621
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,760
which makes it a coin flip.

622
01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:11,880
Now, what number would be more palatable?

623
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:16,100
The closer you get to that 12, I mean you could,

624
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,020
if this was all for safety and security,

625
01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:21,200
you could go for double.

626
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Because you're at 80% support for both of those items.

627
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:37,920
When you piece this together in the $12 to $15 range is probably the sweet spot prioritizing those components that are highly rated.

628
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:46,200
But then also at the same time because I know there's a sequencing this is important also as part of the discussion.

629
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,420
But as you make these improvements, it's about ensuring the

630
01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:52,100
comparability piece for folks.

631
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Now, what's the reason for their position?

632
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,260
Education's important.

633
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,080
It'll always be the list before you start a campaign.

634
01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:05,240
But one in five are right there that this is needed, which is

635
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,180
really impressive.

636
01:02:06,420 --> 01:02:09,520
It goes back to that shift that we see overall.

637
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Then children in the district at 10% and the cost is

638
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:23,960
reasonable at 8%. What's the reason for opposition? The cost is too high, taxes too high, poor spending, no

639
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:31,640
children are not needed. So if we're looking at the need, it's 19 to 2 already. The need piece,

640
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:39,820
I mean most districts have to work to get to this point by the time the campaign kicks off. You already have this

641
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:41,420
in place, the need portion.

642
01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:45,340
Now, it will need to be number one item, an election day.

643
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:47,640
Because I always say nobody gets up on election day

644
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,120
and says, I have to go vote because the cost is reasonable.

645
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,680
They get up in vote because this is needed.

646
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,940
Something important will happen if it passes

647
01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:58,860
and something bad will happen if it doesn't pass.

648
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,840
Now, we did test a second question and this was,

649
01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:07,660
the school board is considering an additional option

650
01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:12,380
to tear down Robinsdale Middle School and build a new elementary school to replace Lakeville

651
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:18,580
elementary and provide space for possible early learning center. The total estimated cost to

652
01:03:18,580 --> 01:03:24,020
complete these projects would be 40 million. This would be a separate second bond question

653
01:03:24,020 --> 01:03:30,400
and contingent on the passage of the first referendum question. If voters approve this 40 million

654
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:36,260
dollar bond to fund these improvements, the owner of a $340,000 home would see a monthly property

655
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:45,440
tax increase of an additional $7 per month or $84 per year, 56% support, 41% oppose.

656
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:53,400
So it's a little bit tighter, and I think when you look at the prioritization, you have

657
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,100
those items that have safety and security higher, others in the mid-60s.

658
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,720
This is probably something for another day to explore with what to do with that site.

659
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,780
and prioritize a singular bond question

660
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:08,980
and that $12 to $15 range.

661
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,080
What's the reason education's important needed

662
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,580
while it's cheaper, so the cost is reasonable

663
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:18,040
and they have children.

664
01:04:19,580 --> 01:04:23,880
And then finally, our folks getting their information.

665
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,540
This is the issue that a lot of school districts

666
01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:34,960
are dealing with, feel like an outstate Minnesota.

667
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:41,360
word of mouth one and five it has gone to the top as your primary source of

668
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,140
information and just for fun let's throw in social media since that really is

669
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:52,560
electronic word of mouth one in three of one in three people say that's their

670
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:58,320
primary source of information now there is something happening and I'm going to

671
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,980
to explore it in the summer state.

672
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,980
Wait, why, that I'll share at AMSD, because in the last 18 months, I've said for a long time. You don't tell somebody, you don't know on the phone that you don't vote, you don't recycle, and that you rely on social media as your primary source of information. It's kind of just like taboo. Is that something you want to admit to somebody? It is the number one source, absolutely. But people don't want to tell somebody. People are more than happy nowadays to tell somebody.

673
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:34,140
tell strangers that, yeah, social media is the way I get my information.

674
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:40,940
At a time that there's more discussion about the inaccuracy of social media now, you

675
01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:43,260
have more and more people saying, I rely on it.

676
01:05:43,820 --> 01:05:52,780
The local newspaper at 15, the newsletter at 14, the website at 13, mailings and email.

677
01:05:53,570 --> 01:05:56,960
How do they prefer to receive information, though?

678
01:05:58,020 --> 01:06:00,440
Do they want to hold something in their hands?

679
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,980
District newsletter, the local newspaper, and mailings.

680
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:09,780
You have 46% of people that want to hold something in their hands.

681
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:11,760
That's how they want the communication.

682
01:06:12,820 --> 01:06:21,220
Do they want to look at a screen, 14% say website, 14% say email, 12% say social media.

683
01:06:21,220 --> 01:06:27,620
So, 40% want to look at a screen and 8% really, really like the green line.

684
01:06:29,260 --> 01:06:31,600
That's just their primary source of information.

685
01:06:32,220 --> 01:06:37,500
What's interesting that's changed, and this one, the traditional word of mouth has been

686
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:47,240
for years, you know, all my career, is around young families in ECFE, preschool, youth,

687
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,780
So sports associations, those sorts of things.

688
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:59,400
The new grapevine is old guys like me, old guys like me, that the district might not

689
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,720
do a newsletter, might not do mailings, the local newspaper doesn't cover the district

690
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,640
like it used to.

691
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:10,220
I'm not going to go to social media, I'm not going to go to a website, just get together

692
01:07:10,220 --> 01:07:16,300
and gossip with the guys, you know, and I'm sure every what was I last week.

693
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:17,080
But

694
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:26,870
I ask everybody knows the place in town where the old guys meet for breakfast, and

695
01:07:27,410 --> 01:07:28,870
that's the hub of the gassa.

696
01:07:29,470 --> 01:07:34,030
In every district, my favorite is years ago, Roger Juro and Anoka Hennepin.

697
01:07:34,790 --> 01:07:39,670
The epicenter of the larger school district in the state of Minnesota, the gravevine was

698
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:40,610
hardies in Anoka.

699
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:48,110
And Roger went for the operating levy and had breakfast with him once a month.

700
01:07:48,110 --> 01:07:58,070
for 12 months in order to tap down, give information, and just get into that.

701
01:07:58,150 --> 01:08:03,090
Because once it was in that grapevine, and it's something for districts to consider

702
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:07,770
because the difference is coverage that we have nowadays,

703
01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:11,610
it's going to be the grapevine is more and more reliant than ever.

704
01:08:12,210 --> 01:08:14,310
So I'm sure there's questions.

705
01:08:14,310 --> 01:08:17,450
I'll just let you kind of leave the discussion on this one.

706
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:22,720
I have a quick question.

707
01:08:23,580 --> 01:08:25,920
So was it the same people that you talked to?

708
01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:27,960
These are completely random things.

709
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,420
It wasn't a panel back, yep.

710
01:08:30,580 --> 01:08:31,600
Thank you.

711
01:08:32,020 --> 01:08:34,820
All right, questions, people?

712
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:38,790
Dr. Bridgeson.

713
01:08:39,250 --> 01:08:40,050
I had a handful.

714
01:08:42,770 --> 01:08:47,370
So one of the things that jumps out at me when I look at this,

715
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:51,150
demographics for

716
01:08:55,410 --> 01:08:56,370
whatever it is.

717
01:08:58,490 --> 01:09:01,570
This is the answer in the phone is 63% but that doesn't

718
01:09:01,570 --> 01:09:12,790
match the district in terms of actual residents, right? Because like 63% what? The white African-American

719
01:09:12,790 --> 01:09:16,310
and Hispanic Latino, like it doesn't seem,

720
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:18,610
am I wrong, am I off on this?

721
01:09:18,710 --> 01:09:20,850
It matches census for the overall.

722
01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:23,010
Oh, wait, the map is the census for the overall.

723
01:09:23,350 --> 01:09:23,430
Oh, yeah.

724
01:09:23,570 --> 01:09:23,990
All right, okay.

725
01:09:24,190 --> 01:09:26,010
The student population is different from the census.

726
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:27,370
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.

727
01:09:27,370 --> 01:09:29,390
Yeah, the student population is very different.

728
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:31,350
Right, and even amongst the parent sample,

729
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:34,190
because you're going to have that your student count

730
01:09:34,190 --> 01:09:38,390
is based on, so if one family has five, one has one,

731
01:09:39,070 --> 01:09:42,550
it's two households 50-50, but that it's, yeah.

732
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:49,110
Okay, okay, that's why I was just trying to, it just didn't make sense on my head so that's where I was trying to, okay

733
01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:52,890
That was question number one question number two

734
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:59,970
Back on the 425 million dollar bond referendum. Is it you?

735
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:11,580
I feel like there would be like a larger group that are kind of like, I don't know, but is that kind of the norm? In today's age, I mean, so

736
01:10:20,060 --> 01:10:38,460
this question, the predisposition question, they have no information. And you have 51% of people who have made up their minds with no information. They don't know if it's an operating lever. Okay, 20 bucks a month. Once you give them the information, yeah.

737
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:46,800
It's very, when we're asking a tax question, it's very rare that it's above 5% of people saying,

738
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:52,240
I'm not sure. Okay, because you have half the people made up their minds and the persuadables are

739
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,500
just waiting to hear how much of a bunch of what we're doing. Got it. Okay, that makes more sense. Okay, cool.

740
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:05,240
Two last questions. The one I just wanted to verify, you said the question, when we had the different

741
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,460
in schools that were listed, the Cooper, Sandberg,

742
01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:08,960
all those kind of, I don't know.

743
01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:13,040
When we followed up with what school it does not provide

744
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,460
comparable spaces, yes.

745
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:17,220
No, it was, oh, this one,

746
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,160
the property tax increase for middle and high schools,

747
01:11:19,540 --> 01:11:21,980
so I just want to make sure I understood the question.

748
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,220
The question for the Cooper High School was specific,

749
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,500
67% of people agreed with a single high school concept.

750
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,760
They agree for property tax increase

751
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,900
to create a single high school at Cooper.

752
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:40,320
got it. Yes, fantastic. And then my last question, and you kind of hit on a little bit,

753
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:46,120
but it jumped out of me when I was looking at it. Like the flip, I mean, do you have a

754
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:52,120
sense of what? Why the flip on like the schools adequately funded? I mean, going from 65 to

755
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,240
foot, like that was a big number change.

756
01:11:56,260 --> 01:12:03,260
Yeah, he's a very big number change. I think there's

757
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:11,240
an understanding, a growing understanding of that

758
01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:21,160
it wasn't dishonest, it wasn't,

759
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:27,360
it was, it was a mistake in federal funding, and I think that that has come in.

760
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:35,420
So it was very heated and decisions were being made last fall because of that issue.

761
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:41,920
And I think that put the spotlight on it that people were saying, well, they had the

762
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,780
20 million, then yeah, they were adequately funded.

763
01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:51,720
So I think there's a growing awareness on that or it makes sense, but it's kind of

764
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:57,400
like the hardest decisions have been made and it's dropped you back because that's what

765
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,640
I can surmise because I was surprised also, yes, at that level of change.

766
01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:03,980
Those are my questions.

767
01:13:06,540 --> 01:13:15,640
I have my own questions, but I didn't understand your answer to DJ's question about the ethnic breakdown, but I don't want to spend my time on that right now.

768
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,040
We look at updated census information.

769
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,740
I think my question was more about when I look at across our district, what our makeup is.

770
01:13:25,740 --> 01:13:34,600
And I see that the 400 a random sample that you did then you say 400 of you know I don't have a right in front of me

771
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:39,400
But they're 400 you know 400 400 that's not a total of 800. Oh

772
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,800
It's about 700 total. Okay, so there's more than your normal 400

773
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:50,920
Correct because you have 23% parents. So I pull out that 92 people and then we call an additional

774
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:56,080
I know, but I know you're sweet, well, and I don't see you sweet, but what you normally

775
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,180
talk to us about is the 400 sample.

776
01:13:58,480 --> 01:13:58,600
Right.

777
01:13:59,080 --> 01:13:59,260
Correct.

778
01:13:59,260 --> 01:14:00,880
For a typical district for plenty, yes.

779
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,280
And I wanted to make sure that I was not misunderstanding.

780
01:14:03,580 --> 01:14:03,620
Yes.

781
01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:05,620
So we're talking 400 and 400 different.

782
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,040
Yes.

783
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,460
And which brought me back to that question.

784
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:18,320
Which has to do with if we're random sampling and we're reaching out into our district,

785
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:28,820
then the fact that we have so many more households that are not people of color or not why, or you know what I mean?

786
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,440
Okay, so I'm not sure how that breakdown is.

787
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:45,060
However, I do wonder about the responses of that pool because of the majority of the pool is not reflective of the district that we serve.

788
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:48,080
then I wonder about this, if there is a schism.

789
01:14:49,020 --> 01:14:51,880
I can cut the data that way for you if you want.

790
01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:53,160
I would like it, okay?

791
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,420
So because it's now...

792
01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:56,480
Yeah, we can look across that.

793
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:57,180
Well, that's working for me.

794
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,280
You know, I mean, as far as that question is concerned

795
01:14:59,280 --> 01:14:59,980
because I want to...

796
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:27,800
I want to make sure that we're making sure that we're getting at, particularly when we look at the households that responded in what cities and the number of people in the various cities that we have responses from. Because the majority of our responses, if I remember correctly, I got my paper all over here, so I can't quite find it. But I think it was like our planet and the golden valley, and we have half of the golden valley. We have a good little niche, maybe a third of the planet. It's all based on registered voters with the district.

797
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,940
But you have identified this, cities from which those things come.

798
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:37,360
But yeah, the geographic distribution of the sample is based on actual voter counts

799
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,280
in the school district.

800
01:15:38,460 --> 01:15:39,200
I'm not doubting that.

801
01:15:39,340 --> 01:15:39,440
Yeah.

802
01:15:40,260 --> 01:15:40,340
Yeah.

803
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,100
That's, I mean, I don't know at all.

804
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:48,140
I'm just saying that when I look at who responded, for whatever reason, data didn't.

805
01:15:48,980 --> 01:15:49,840
Where are they?

806
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:52,860
What cities are they in?

807
01:15:53,740 --> 01:15:57,120
To divide the data by the geographic, we could do that.

808
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,340
We can cut the data anyway.

809
01:15:58,740 --> 01:16:00,980
I mean, that was a question of the roles in my mind.

810
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:01,800
That's all I'm saying.

811
01:16:01,900 --> 01:16:03,060
I wondered about it.

812
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,660
And especially when I laid that aside,

813
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,740
the demographics in terms of the ethnic background.

814
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,420
And then when I look at who's here in our district,

815
01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:12,460
the students that we have.

816
01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:16,480
And when I look at the values, the housing values,

817
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:20,260
because the property tax is significant issue.

818
01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:23,060
So when I look at where we've pooled from,

819
01:16:23,740 --> 01:16:25,900
and I look at what the values of those homes are,

820
01:16:25,900 --> 01:16:28,180
and I look at people who say they're under stress.

821
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,500
I need to be able to paint a picture of that

822
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:31,900
so I kind of know what we're talking about.

823
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,420
And so if you could help me with those questions,

824
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,100
I would be absolutely.

825
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,880
So now, well, thank you so much.

826
01:16:37,380 --> 01:16:38,800
I love it when my questions make sense.

827
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:39,520
You know?

828
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:44,020
So now I do have this one here about this bond.

829
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,720
These numbers are pretty similar between the 400, you know.

830
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,320
So I wondered when you said,

831
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,460
and you know there's a conventional wisdom is that it's better

832
01:16:54,460 --> 01:16:56,300
to not stack on a couple of different questions.

833
01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:57,620
is that is conventional wisdom.

834
01:16:57,820 --> 01:16:59,340
It is conventional wisdom, yes.

835
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,300
But when I look at this, and I see

836
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:03,300
that the numbers are pretty much the same,

837
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,800
and I see how strong the support is for elementary,

838
01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:11,340
right down the line for all the issues that we present,

839
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,600
then that gets my attention.

840
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,800
And when I look at the similarly the issue,

841
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:21,540
I think DJ Mission, this one,

842
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,780
the property tax increase for middle and high school,

843
01:17:23,780 --> 01:17:26,900
So it's not parsed out in that way.

844
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,660
It's not parsed out kind of in the same manner that we have in an elementary.

845
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:31,840
No, it's not.

846
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:33,460
Yeah, that was when we designed it, yes.

847
01:17:33,620 --> 01:17:33,940
Yes.

848
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,500
And so, and if the question is leading, and I'm not saying that you're asking a leading

849
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:45,440
question because you're good scientists, but if the question is presented in a particular

850
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:48,280
way, it's going to give you a particular answer.

851
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:49,060
Correct.

852
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:50,360
Oh, absolutely.

853
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,720
I always say I could write a question to elicit whatever answer but it doesn't help anybody.

854
01:17:54,840 --> 01:18:00,960
The reason I asked the question is because of making sure that we are clear about

855
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,520
where people are at. Yeah and that was it was intentional we would develop the questions

856
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:15,680
because at first and working with the with the folks here we actually I suggest that breaking out

857
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:20,620
each individual site. Here's elementary. This elementary school, that elementary school,

858
01:18:20,620 --> 01:18:26,320
that and it just became so convoluted on what elementary school is getting watched. So we

859
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,480
kind of looked at it as a blanket. All these elementary schools are getting kind of a piece

860
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:36,880
of what's on that list. Yeah. And then the middle and high school, it was kind of like, okay,

861
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:44,500
let's do these all together in in in summary. It was and it seemed to work the best way for.

862
01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:47,480
I understand makes perfect sense what you're saying makes perfect sense.

863
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:55,100
However, this one I like a lot when it talks about the elementary because it talks about

864
01:18:55,100 --> 01:19:01,880
the specific things and gives us the power of where the power is in these questions based

865
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,320
on, you know, how much it gives you clear prioritization.

866
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:05,800
Yes.

867
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:07,600
And that's so much here.

868
01:19:08,220 --> 01:19:11,700
This is, I mean, I understand what you're saying and I understand the point of this.

869
01:19:11,700 --> 01:19:19,940
I don't feel like that this is really, you know, I mean, it's apples to oranges, in terms

870
01:19:19,940 --> 01:19:23,620
of the way that this looks and the way that this is raised.

871
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:32,500
It gives clear prioritization, too, and it actually shows, I mean, the Cooper pull it up

872
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:32,660
here.

873
01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:45,280
Unlike in the elementary school, like I talked about, the gymnasium, media center expansions,

874
01:19:45,580 --> 01:19:47,680
I wouldn't do a lot of it.

875
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,220
I mean, it wouldn't probably be part of any question if you consider scaling back.

876
01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:59,100
But as you're looking sequentially on what's most important to look at, you do have two

877
01:19:59,100 --> 01:19:59,840
3rds

878
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:09,340
On the Cooper Plymouth Middle School, Armstrong High School. I mean there are two thirds of support for both of those sorts of things.

879
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:28,880
Well, I mean, based on the way that we are looking at this, yes. I do think there are other questions. That's not the purpose of this tonight. I mean, really, I mean, I have different thoughts. And that's okay. You know, I mean, as far as that's concerned, that's okay. I mean, I, you know,

880
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:34,480
But I did see the one that I kind of started with, which was that one about the 67 percent.

881
01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:38,380
That's a let me may not hear back to this one, I think.

882
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:47,940
So the support for the bond referendums, because there is a world where we, it could be

883
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,580
considered that we're just wanting to do the elementary.

884
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:21,320
We've had a discussion about it. It's not news. And so since we have had news about that, and because the conventional wisdom is that you wouldn't want to have two questions on, you know, out for a referendum. That's not ideal, actually, one thing or the other.

885
01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:27,580
When we spoke of the Conventional Wisdom, that it's better not to have two.

886
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:36,960
I mean, you can have two, to me, what it comes down to is the political makeup of what this

887
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,620
election is going to look like this fall.

888
01:21:39,220 --> 01:21:39,700
Absolutely.

889
01:21:40,020 --> 01:21:40,260
Absolutely.

890
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:41,880
Now, I'm just trying to understand the mechanics.

891
01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:44,940
And I'm just trying to think about what you have to prioritize.

892
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,340
What has the best chance to pass is the most broad.

893
01:21:48,340 --> 01:21:56,480
I agree, but when I look at the numbers for the reason I'm pausing on elementary so hard is because those

894
01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:04,000
elementary came back so strong. And the prioritization and the interest that people have in them, and the fact that we

895
01:22:05,660 --> 01:22:11,200
have some other things. That's not for tonight. I mean because for me I'll be walking through what my

896
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:17,020
rationale is for whatever I think is the best thing to do. And I'm just trying to use this data to help me

897
01:22:17,020 --> 01:22:23,280
understand it better. That's all. No, there's no mystery here. You know, but so, and you've,

898
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,660
you know, we've kind of basically, you've, you've, you've answered my questions. There's

899
01:22:26,660 --> 01:22:32,100
not that much difference between the two of them. In terms of, just, or it would be whether

900
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,240
you just add on the addition. Oh, I'm just saying, or it's not going to stand on.

901
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:38,360
Yeah. I

902
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,660
wouldn't, I mean, I'm not saying that we're going to or should. I'm saying it could.

903
01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:47,620
Yeah, I would advise at $7 a month for four years.

904
01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:48,320
Well, but that was not all.

905
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,760
I mean, tonight I'm just talking about these slides

906
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:52,740
in this presentation.

907
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:57,140
We've received a lot of data about a lot of things.

908
01:22:58,780 --> 01:23:01,260
We're putting out there what we'd like

909
01:23:01,260 --> 01:23:04,180
to do in our six remaining, to a certain extent,

910
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:05,600
elementary schools.

911
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,080
There are dollars attached to those things,

912
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:10,980
and they're attached to the LTFM right now,

913
01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:20,800
because we can do that. To do anything new, we'd have to have new money. So I'm very clear about that.

914
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:27,260
So I'm saying that a different question in my mind could be something different.

915
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:34,300
Or I have some thoughts about what a question could be. We all do. We all get to do that. Everybody gets to do it.

916
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,000
So no different than anybody else. You know, maybe one question that's been talked about the post,

917
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,340
But there could be a different question, and at the end of the day, the majority

918
01:23:44,340 --> 01:23:48,700
of vote on whatever the main question or questions are will come forward.

919
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:52,960
I mean, it's, you know, it's the same formula, and it changes because I'm talking about it.

920
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:53,760
It's the same thing.

921
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,820
You know, and I'm just, you're the expert here, so I'm just asking, Mr. Bassett's been

922
01:23:57,820 --> 01:23:59,200
pet 10 minutes on the floor.

923
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,160
I'm just wondering if anybody else has had this.

924
01:24:01,180 --> 01:24:04,780
You know, the chair would ask me, just like, you know, DJ asked for his three questions.

925
01:24:04,780 --> 01:24:07,360
I had my three or four, and we could go on parole answers.

926
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,980
So, I, you know, I mean, I'm fine if you just, if the chair is on the sheet, that's right.

927
01:24:12,340 --> 01:24:15,880
Well, I think we'll have a superintendent clarify and then we're going to have Director Long.

928
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:20,880
And I'm, yeah, Peter, Peter, would you just, I just want to be sure that there's clarity

929
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,500
with what you've said, the data means.

930
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:30,740
So will you just do a, will you talk about this slide and the previous slide, because I believe

931
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:37,280
what I heard is that you, Director Bassett said there was more support, I just want to show

932
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,160
the support of where we are with these with the question.

933
01:24:41,980 --> 01:24:42,740
Well, super.

934
01:24:42,940 --> 01:24:47,200
Then really when I said is the my question was these tours are really similar in terms

935
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,540
of the kind of support that they have.

936
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:49,200
These are the two.

937
01:24:49,540 --> 01:24:51,320
I was doing it this way, so maybe it didn't see it.

938
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:51,540
Okay.

939
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:52,880
But this is what I was showing.

940
01:24:53,020 --> 01:24:53,220
Okay.

941
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:53,840
And you said yes.

942
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:54,480
So that's it.

943
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:55,040
With

944
01:24:57,700 --> 01:24:59,880
the $40 million, the understanding.

945
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,320
The expleting's they were told it was contingent on the first passing. Oh, I didn't know that

946
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:16,140
yet. So, yeah, they were told that it was contingent. That's why I read that. Yeah. Okay. So I'm

947
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:20,940
wondering, well, I have a couple questions. But my first question is, so we didn't get

948
01:25:20,940 --> 01:25:25,800
this information until we got here. Was that our seats? So I didn't really have time to go

949
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,180
through and look through it, are we going to be talking about this at another time?

950
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,580
Yeah, I could, is that right?

951
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,120
Sure.

952
01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:32,800
Okay.

953
01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:38,680
I said that, I did get that question and the same protocol that we used and I've used in

954
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:44,200
other districts, the same one that we used in the October, November survey is usually because

955
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,660
of the work that you're doing, we get these later, we also had to go to our financial advisors

956
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:52,560
and get some information from them, I emailed you all this.

957
01:25:53,380 --> 01:26:01,660
So we knew that there was going to be, so we knew that this would be the hard copy at your table will post the information afterwards.

958
01:26:01,900 --> 01:26:14,280
I think the other thing that's so important and Peter does these presentations in multiple districts and cities to hear him share and talk about this is really important, which is why we always did that.

959
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:20,100
The other thing to direct her long, we knew that there would be more time needed, and that's

960
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:23,300
why we added the June 8th meeting as well.

961
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:28,000
We knew that tonight there would be an opportunity to discuss and then figure out what additional

962
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:34,400
information questions you had for us to come back, June 8th, and then again June 15th.

963
01:26:34,940 --> 01:26:36,400
So yes, multiple more times.

964
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:44,260
Yeah, people want to submit questions between now and just before the June 8th meeting, we'll

965
01:26:44,260 --> 01:26:49,740
get every question answered that people have. So ask questions tonight but then

966
01:26:50,540 --> 01:26:56,340
me'll be able to submit questions also. They know how to get all of me. So if you

967
01:26:56,340 --> 01:26:59,800
have questions, it's a lot of information. So can I ask my other questions then?

968
01:27:00,420 --> 01:27:07,120
Okay, so can we have the questions that were asked that make a beach slide? So we

969
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,620
can have those in print then versus you just saying it. Okay, and then what

970
01:27:11,620 --> 01:27:13,140
What about access to the raw data?

971
01:27:14,860 --> 01:27:18,640
Access to the individual data set.

972
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:20,700
No, we guarantee confidentiality.

973
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,440
It can give some reason of it and crosstabs and everything, but part of it is in the

974
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:25,960
introduction.

975
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:26,580
We assure.

976
01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:27,300
Okay.

977
01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:28,440
What can we get that then?

978
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:30,700
It crosstabs.

979
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:31,340
Yes.

980
01:27:31,820 --> 01:27:31,960
Absolutely.

981
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:32,780
It can be crosstabs.

982
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:33,380
Okay.

983
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:40,240
And then can we get that well before June 8th so that we can review it for questions?

984
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,980
Well, the crosstabs will be hundreds of pages.

985
01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:50,700
If you isolate individual questions, I can pull out, maybe I can give you a couple

986
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:53,040
hundred pages of crosstabs.

987
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,700
It's all the data.

988
01:27:58,180 --> 01:28:03,320
Can we get the information before the June 8th meeting so that we can look at it?

989
01:28:03,860 --> 01:28:08,040
So are you saying you feel it's necessary to have hundreds of pages of crosstabs?

990
01:28:08,740 --> 01:28:09,140
Yes.

991
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:10,080
Big

992
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:13,780
PDF, right?

993
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:43,760
So if you're going to do that, so if that's the case, are you requesting that Peters back here on June 8th to answer questions related to over 200 pages of cross tab data when he's already given you the information based on the cross tab data because it's going to be all extrapolated data and without us all being psycho matricians. I don't know how we're going to do that.

994
01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:49,220
Well, possibly, I mean, I don't know until I see the data, what my questions are going

995
01:28:49,220 --> 01:28:56,160
to be. I know I don't need to see that, but you feel like you need to, yes.

996
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:04,100
Probably can run it through. I have a meeting next on the 8th. How often do you do something

997
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:09,320
like that, Peter? Cross the cross the right, that level of information for a school board.

998
01:29:10,700 --> 01:29:11,420
Every once in a while.

999
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,200
And then the questions, too, that were asked

1000
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,500
for each life. He said that already.

1001
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,560
And before the eighth then so that we can probably

1002
01:29:27,220 --> 01:29:31,320
can do it Wednesday. I'll

1003
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:41,240
try to get it down than not hundreds. Maybe I'll do three

1004
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:42,960
but three banners of demographics.

1005
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:53,020
Each of the columns, 18 to 34 year olds, homeowners

1006
01:29:53,020 --> 01:29:56,860
versus renters, male versus female,

1007
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,960
Robinsdale versus Goldenberg.

1008
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,900
All of those individual sorts of things would be across the banners.

1009
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:14,740
Thank you. Thank you. My question is about the tax tolerance slide.

1010
01:30:20,140 --> 01:30:35,420
So, what were you saying was the sweet spot, because I think the sweet spot is less than what we really need. It is. Yeah, the sweet. How do we? It comes in at the outset at about 12 bucks.

1011
01:30:35,420 --> 01:30:45,300
a month. About 150 bucks a year. But like I said, that sweet spot is not set in stone

1012
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,600
because you have, we jump ahead.

1013
01:30:51,010 --> 01:30:57,250
If you had $25 a month for safety and security, it

1014
01:30:57,250 --> 01:31:05,650
would pass. The example I always use Richfield about a decade ago did a very similar, they

1015
01:31:05,650 --> 01:31:12,690
They had not updated schools in quite a while, it was a major bond referendum, and the tolerance

1016
01:31:12,690 --> 01:31:14,430
came in at $10 a month.

1017
01:31:15,630 --> 01:31:22,030
And when we read this list, they did not have a single item under 65%.

1018
01:31:23,330 --> 01:31:29,330
Okay, so it's not like you have even, like on this one, it's within the margin of error.

1019
01:31:29,950 --> 01:31:34,090
They went for $27 a month and it passed $65.35.

1020
01:31:34,090 --> 01:31:44,850
So it can go up, but if you would come in at $12 a month for gymnasium additions, it would fail.

1021
01:31:45,870 --> 01:31:55,250
Okay, that's what is so important in prioritizing the items that are supported in concept can lift the boat.

1022
01:31:56,150 --> 01:31:59,310
It's why Wiseanna had a second question for a pool.

1023
01:32:00,370 --> 01:32:02,230
The survey showed they needed to do that.

1024
01:32:02,230 --> 01:32:05,270
Even though it was 10% of the total cost.

1025
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,760
Okay, thank you.

1026
01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:12,500
Do you need to do something?

1027
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:18,080
I think when we talked through this on Friday when we were going through for today,

1028
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:25,000
we talked about potentially right now as a starting spot being around $14, $15 for planning purposes.

1029
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,960
For tonight, is that still something you would support?

1030
01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:28,600
Yes.

1031
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:28,740
Yes,

1032
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:53,100
I would, yeah, I think, you know, going back and looking at the list and prioritizing on that, you know, $15 a month would be, and part of it is also what this election is going to be, what the property tax issue is going to be, in my opinion, it's better to be more conservative at this point in time.

1033
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:59,360
And you are going to be helped by greater turnout, the more people that vote.

1034
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:04,740
And I mean, what we saw a couple of weeks ago in Lakeville and South St. Paul.

1035
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:11,180
Turnout was 15% in Lakeville and 13% in South St. Paul,

1036
01:33:14,650 --> 01:33:15,730
everyone should have passed.

1037
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:24,450
Luckily, Lakeville did, but when you have that small turnout, it doesn't matter if what district you are.

1038
01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:33,500
There is really a concern on special elections because parents are not turning out.

1039
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:36,600
Dr. Woto?

1040
01:33:37,540 --> 01:33:39,460
Yeah, Peter, I just have a clarifying question.

1041
01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:45,700
So you mentioned that once the campaign starts, if the board decides to go for a bond,

1042
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:52,600
the people in the no column could potentially rise to the 9% units.

1043
01:33:52,940 --> 01:33:58,060
What typically happens, the general rule of law over all these years, is that if I have

1044
01:33:58,060 --> 01:34:00,980
10 school districts that go out,

1045
01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:07,500
two will run a very, will have a very good vote, yes.

1046
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:14,360
They will be able to maintain or possibly exceed the early survey number.

1047
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:22,360
The other eight, the typical drop is eight to 10 points, which is why that 60% threshold

1048
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:23,600
is so important.

1049
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:34,160
because if you're at 60 and you drop, you're at 52, 48, now you're within the margin of error and then it's the coin flip.

1050
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:37,900
Now, you could be the district that's, you know, two out of ten.

1051
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:42,160
But it is,

1052
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:51,800
it's just kind of the rule of thumb and what happens during the attrition because people aren't focused on this right now.

1053
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:57,820
And the other issue you're going to have is as we found out from the endorsing convention

1054
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:28,480
The Minnesotans are tired of a political campaign that starts the day off your Labor Day. This one's starting the 4th of July. Now that we're going to have a contested primary for the Senate on both sides, we're going to be inundated all July. We're going to vote, and then we're going to get the state fair off. And then we're going to come back and we're going to hear about it all again for two months. So the window to get this information out.

1055
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:36,300
It's really important to be as concise and not as complicated as possible for communication.

1056
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:42,520
The good news is the turnout is set, you don't have to drive the vote, you're not going

1057
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,300
to have 15% turnout, the turnout is set.

1058
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:54,240
The key is going to be a surprise voter on election day as a no voter, so you have to cut

1059
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,600
through the clutter of what's going to be coming for the next five months.

1060
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,260
Thank you. Dr. Hillenbrand?

1061
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:09,680
Yeah, I just had a quick question about would it be valuable or or and if so when would it be

1062
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:19,200
valuable to survey again as we're trying to make decisions and would it be helpful or does the

1063
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:25,800
that sort of there would, the data just kind of doesn't really change as we get closer

1064
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:26,240
and closer.

1065
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,560
Should say, you should survey every week.

1066
01:36:28,780 --> 01:36:29,220
Well, I know.

1067
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:29,600
I know.

1068
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:31,280
But I trust you.

1069
01:36:31,480 --> 01:36:34,280
And I know that you are very interested in the data.

1070
01:36:34,460 --> 01:36:34,680
Change.

1071
01:36:36,300 --> 01:36:42,220
Change is on this sort of thing, there would be no reason to do any sort of survey.

1072
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:47,860
Like if you came back and said, OK, let's test 350 million.

1073
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:58,220
300 million, I would say, no, I don't expect, you know, it might be 61, it might be, you

1074
01:36:58,220 --> 01:37:03,980
have the data, I think, to be able to make the decision. I think, you know, typically

1075
01:37:03,980 --> 01:37:10,600
in an off-year election, I would suggest a brush fire, which we typically do at the end

1076
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:16,140
of September, first week of October. It's basically 15 questions. It's very short. We're just

1077
01:37:16,140 --> 01:37:23,140
looking to see awareness level, potential turnout, everything like that. I don't even think

1078
01:37:23,140 --> 01:37:27,900
it's worth some sounds out for a hundred percent. I don't think it's worth it at this point in time.

1079
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:33,460
I think the key is going to be the decision made and then the communication piece.

1080
01:37:35,660 --> 01:37:39,000
I'm just curious because of the numbers changing so much from all of it.

1081
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,400
Yeah. Well, it's super-cental on it with former superintendents from here,

1082
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:48,480
I asked me once the best time to do a survey for an November referendum and I said Monday night.

1083
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:56,700
To your state election, the problem is there's a little bit of planning that needs to go into play, so to Dr. Sicoli, yes.

1084
01:37:59,420 --> 01:38:02,700
Dr. Bowman, I just have a quick process question.

1085
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:10,360
Are we going to be sending all of our questions to you or to you or to Dr. Stella?

1086
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:15,260
If you send them to me and put your Emma's background, that would be great.

1087
01:38:15,480 --> 01:38:16,220
Okay, sounds good.

1088
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:20,080
Because I do find all the questions everyone asks to be very valuable.

1089
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,660
And I like to see them all.

1090
01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:22,980
Great.

1091
01:38:23,460 --> 01:38:23,920
That was it.

1092
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:29,360
We'll do that the same way that we normally do all the questions that come in.

1093
01:38:29,420 --> 01:38:32,060
I'll make sure that all board members get questions and responses.

1094
01:38:32,440 --> 01:38:35,420
And Dr. McDowell has another something to add to that.

1095
01:38:35,420 --> 01:38:46,340
I'm wondering if you can speak to the importance or the lack of importance of a unanimous vote for going out for a bond and the impacts of not having that.

1096
01:38:47,620 --> 01:38:50,520
It is very important to have a unanimous vote.

1097
01:38:51,860 --> 01:39:02,100
The rule of thumb is if you have one member that votes no, it decreases the chance of success by about a third.

1098
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:07,240
And if you have two members that vote no, there's no point in going.

1099
01:39:09,460 --> 01:39:18,240
It is the signal for the community that you have, you summon elected officials, you've

1100
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:24,160
heard the information, and when you don't all vote in unison, the chance of success is

1101
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:24,400
cut.

1102
01:39:26,020 --> 01:39:32,540
There are exceptions to that rule, but that is the general rule through 32 years of doing

1103
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:32,840
this.

1104
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:33,680
I

1105
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:41,680
have a question. For those eight to ten district, you know, you said two in ten.

1106
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:42,280
Well, yep.

1107
01:39:42,860 --> 01:39:43,480
Oh, go up.

1108
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:53,200
So, for the eight to ten to have the drop, what do you attribute to the drop or factors that would contribute to that drop?

1109
01:39:53,420 --> 01:39:56,440
I mean, like, things we should avoid, so we don't get that drop.

1110
01:39:57,580 --> 01:39:59,720
A very focal vote now.

1111
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,240
We'll be the first thing. And then at the same time, a very ineffective vote, yes.

1112
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:29,040
Vote, yes, tends to vote, yes, for some reason, can't accept the fact that a victory is 50% plus 1, they have to go out and convince everybody that. And then they get bogged down. It's typically, I'll get out the vote effort, though. In and off here. In an even year, it's a communication challenge.

1113
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:38,300
and getting your message out and when your number one source of information is word of mouth

1114
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:47,660
that's hard to get it out quickly in a sense.

1115
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:59,140
Dr. Bassett, thank you. I just want to answer a question and one of the reasons I really

1116
01:40:59,140 --> 01:41:03,600
appreciate what you just said. One of the reasons that, and I think sometimes

1117
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:08,620
it's misunderstood, one of the reasons for me that I ask questions is to make

1118
01:41:08,620 --> 01:41:13,340
sure that I'm making the decision that I think is the best decision, and I think

1119
01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:17,060
that's true for everybody, not just for me, but I sometimes think I need to say it

1120
01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:20,900
because people think that good when I'm asked questions they seem to get a

1121
01:41:20,900 --> 01:41:26,760
little animated, but in any case having said that, I just want to make sure in these

1122
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,560
These two, when I look at these numbers and I look at the percentages that we have here

1123
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:35,180
that tells us strong priority of what people really like, what they really want, and then

1124
01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:36,840
I look at this number over here.

1125
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,840
It's not apples to apples because this was really talking about the bond referendum.

1126
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:48,680
But I do want to ask you, what is there any relationship between these two because there's

1127
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:53,980
47% support and then strong, so together, that's 58%.

1128
01:41:53,980 --> 01:42:03,220
So I'm wondering is there any relationship between this and that or the when we break

1129
01:42:03,220 --> 01:42:08,720
down the individual this is theoretical. How are you going to prioritize the use of

1130
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:17,120
the funding? Okay. Yes. This chart that's I think that's what you're like. This is these

1131
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,760
These uses of the funding and giving them $22 a month.

1132
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:21,720
Right.

1133
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:31,560
Which leads me then back to my question about this one, which because if this question,

1134
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:38,120
and this is important to me, because when we start talking about what will the question actually

1135
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,920
say, there's usually specific language in it, in every question.

1136
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:42,680
Yep.

1137
01:42:42,940 --> 01:42:43,600
Whatever the lawyers say.

1138
01:42:43,600 --> 01:43:13,080
exactly whatever we want to do and then whatever the lawyer say it's the question so whatever is in the question so that's why for me understanding this is important you know because when I look at this and I look at the other where there's pretty similar support I haven't you the message that you just landed which talked about the simpler cleaner crisper the message the better I believe that to

1139
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,420
But for me, asking the question and the way that I need to ask it to see if there's a

1140
01:43:19,420 --> 01:43:25,940
way, if there's value in having a question be a little bit more complex is really at

1141
01:43:25,940 --> 01:43:26,640
the heart of my question.

1142
01:43:27,420 --> 01:43:36,560
And so because, as you said, what people really like and resonate with them sometimes can

1143
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:37,180
carry the day.

1144
01:43:37,780 --> 01:43:47,120
Right. I would say on the $40 million one, not realizing that this is contingent.

1145
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:54,040
That's because, I mean, if it is contingent, I'm talking about it as purely a stand-alone

1146
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:54,800
thing.

1147
01:43:55,340 --> 01:44:00,740
I mean, I think in planning, I think my advice would be if this is something that the board

1148
01:44:00,740 --> 01:44:04,520
wants to do, I would include this into one question.

1149
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:19,300
And here's the way, reason I say this, but just, I'm sorry, but keep in mind that it in concept and they know the price is $7 a month, it's only a 56% support.

1150
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:29,350
So I would not, the 40 million, I wouldn't insert the 40 million and take all classroom additions or safety and security.

1151
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:32,030
No, and I'm not suggesting that at all.

1152
01:44:32,150 --> 01:44:38,670
It would be a prioritization, I'm not suggesting that at all, but I guess that you answered

1153
01:44:38,670 --> 01:44:43,510
my question because it is possible to write it in such a way because the perception of

1154
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:49,470
what might lift this, because there is no secret, there is a body of folks who are not happy

1155
01:44:49,470 --> 01:44:50,070
about this.

1156
01:44:50,590 --> 01:44:56,490
Now, what there is, how deep it is and how robust it is, I don't know, I'm not a psychometrist

1157
01:44:56,490 --> 01:44:59,770
or whatever then, you know, I'm not your, not a survey person.

1158
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,980
I'll say like that. But it is a concern because it's real, you know. Well, you absolutely hear from. Yeah. I mean, that's reason I bring it up is because it's a real thing. You know, I didn't just make it up. You know, I want to be positive. I don't want to be negative, but I was on my real list. No, I mean, absolutely. I mean, I always every board meeting. I've ever done. If I had a nickel for every elected officialist said this doesn't reflect what I hear. I would. I mean, it is you hear from the 10 to 15% about everything.

1159
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:34,780
everything, the remaining people, they're not on social media, they're not at all.

1160
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,400
Well, I'll ask any other questions that I have I can maybe ask you.

1161
01:45:37,660 --> 01:45:41,580
I mean, before you take off the door or I can send them to you because I don't want to

1162
01:45:41,580 --> 01:45:47,160
belabor the meeting and go on and on, but, you know, send them to the superintendent and

1163
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:47,780
then she'll.

1164
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:55,580
But I really do want to say that you are the expert that helps us understand how the information,

1165
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,460
the sampling we've done happens.

1166
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,540
You are that expert for us.

1167
01:46:02,340 --> 01:46:06,700
So if I have questions, I've posed them to you because you're the person who can answer them.

1168
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,040
Absolutely, more than happy to answer them.

1169
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,960
Which is well with the scope of why you're here and what we're talking about.

1170
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:12,720
Absolutely.

1171
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:13,220
Okay.

1172
01:46:16,170 --> 01:46:16,890
Board members?

1173
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:22,070
So we're not going to put all the questions to Dr. Stahl.

1174
01:46:22,110 --> 01:46:22,570
Yes, we are.

1175
01:46:22,730 --> 01:46:22,990
Okay.

1176
01:46:23,370 --> 01:46:23,990
I just wanted to-

1177
01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:24,890
We're still sending that.

1178
01:46:24,890 --> 01:46:29,550
But if there are questions about the analysis of the data,

1179
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:35,030
our team will not ask and try to answer those back to Peter,

1180
01:46:35,190 --> 01:46:36,770
so we can get responses from him.

1181
01:46:37,310 --> 01:46:39,290
Right, so that we're all hearing the same thing.

1182
01:46:39,290 --> 01:46:39,570
Yep.

1183
01:46:39,730 --> 01:46:41,270
That's the important thing for me.

1184
01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:42,270
Yeah.

1185
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,300
OK, I don't see any more hands up.

1186
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,080
I still don't see any more hands.

1187
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:51,760
Boy, let's go.

1188
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:52,200
Please.

1189
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,520
Well, for me, it wasn't as exciting as Arthur, but.

1190
01:46:56,260 --> 01:46:58,540
No, you were and takes that exact name.

1191
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,660
You didn't even sing or have, but thank you very much.

1192
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,120
This is a very thoughtful, very thoughtful information.

1193
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:05,720
Thank you.

1194
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,240
All right.

1195
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,900
Next item on our agenda is the consent agenda.

1196
01:47:12,460 --> 01:47:16,600
Items on the consent agenda are routine in nature and will be enacted with single motion.

1197
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:21,860
There will be no separate discussion of items, unless a board member requests, in which case

1198
01:47:21,860 --> 01:47:26,780
will remove that item from the consent agenda and address it and vote on it separately.

1199
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:34,080
Do items on tonight's consent agenda include the annual QComp report, the extended field

1200
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,600
trip to Germany, Hungary, Austria, and the Czech Republic for Armstrong High School,

1201
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,900
meeting minutes, financial reports, and the personnel reports.

1202
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,380
Move to approval by Director Bowman.

1203
01:47:44,380 --> 01:47:50,740
Seconded by Adjector Hill and Grant, this is a roll call vote.

1204
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:57,480
And just before we do the roll call vote, two of the people in the personnel report are retiring.

1205
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:05,340
Allison McKay has 21 years as a special ed teacher and Sandra Fick's 29 years as a tutor EA.

1206
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,660
So thank you for your service and happy retirement.

1207
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,720
Okay, great to do the roll call vote.

1208
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:13,900
of course. Thank you.

1209
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:14,560
With pleasure.

1210
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,200
Director Bassett.

1211
01:48:16,700 --> 01:48:16,960
Yes.

1212
01:48:17,500 --> 01:48:18,860
Director Bowman votes yes.

1213
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:19,800
Director Brinison.

1214
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:20,360
Yes.

1215
01:48:21,500 --> 01:48:22,560
Chair Evans Becker.

1216
01:48:23,020 --> 01:48:23,340
Oh, yes.

1217
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:25,180
Director Hillenbrand.

1218
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:25,740
Yes.

1219
01:48:26,020 --> 01:48:26,540
Director Long.

1220
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:27,040
No.

1221
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:28,200
Director Wuto.

1222
01:48:28,660 --> 01:48:28,800
Yes.

1223
01:48:29,260 --> 01:48:29,960
Motion prevails.

1224
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:30,600
All right.

1225
01:48:32,180 --> 01:48:33,380
Concentration is approved.

1226
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:34,980
We move on to unfinished business.

1227
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,840
Our unfinished business is the

1228
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:44,120
the fiscal year, 27 preliminary budget and resolution.

1229
01:48:44,940 --> 01:48:51,590
And is Cable Hohaisel coming in on a Zoom thing?

1230
01:48:52,290 --> 01:48:53,510
Okay, so there's questions.

1231
01:48:54,410 --> 01:48:55,130
Yep, can you hear?

1232
01:48:55,650 --> 01:48:56,230
We can.

1233
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:57,850
Good evening.

1234
01:48:58,710 --> 01:48:58,950
Good evening.

1235
01:49:00,050 --> 01:49:00,590
Thank you.

1236
01:49:00,750 --> 01:49:01,170
Good evening.

1237
01:49:01,490 --> 01:49:04,310
Chair Evans Becker, Superintendent Solo and School Board members.

1238
01:49:04,770 --> 01:49:08,190
The only thing, the only question that had come up since this,

1239
01:49:08,190 --> 01:49:13,370
what the preliminary budget was presented to you at the last meeting in May, was as it relates

1240
01:49:13,370 --> 01:49:17,670
to the Building Construction Fund, which is also page 6 of the preliminary budget book.

1241
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:26,530
And the question was how it essentially shows very little revenue and yet tens of millions of

1242
01:49:26,530 --> 01:49:36,290
dollars of expenditures. And we had issued debt in November of 24. And when debt has issued that 20,

1243
01:49:36,290 --> 01:49:43,410
It was about a $20 million debt issuance when that came in, it gets booked immediately.

1244
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:48,610
So the revenue at that time showed $20 million and the expenses were nominal.

1245
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:55,990
We work as the years go on to spend down the projects that are used against that issuance.

1246
01:49:56,190 --> 01:49:59,970
We were a little delayed this time around just because not knowing what schools were going

1247
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,180
I'm going to close on what projects we should be moving forward with. We're probably a year behind where we typically would be in spending bond proceeds, but that's why it's reflective of expenditures over revenue. It also wouldn't be unusual on other funds if they have a carry forward fund balance that we could possibly be overspending the next year as it relates to revenue. And that's why the budget book I think is very helpful because you can see the carry forward fund balances. That was the only question that was received since the last meeting.

1248
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:35,500
And so if there's nothing else, I would ask for school board approval of the preliminary 26, 20, 27 budget.

1249
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:42,120
I would like to ask for someone to move the resolution that adopts the preliminary budget and then

1250
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:44,480
we'll have discussion after that.

1251
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:44,920
So moved.

1252
01:50:45,140 --> 01:50:46,300
Move by Director Brideson.

1253
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:47,900
Seconded by Director Bowman.

1254
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:53,820
Is there any discussion or any more questions about this preliminary budget for 26, 27?

1255
01:50:56,630 --> 01:50:58,370
I don't see any hands.

1256
01:50:58,370 --> 01:51:03,430
In that case, let's take a vote.

1257
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:04,190
Thank you.

1258
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:08,780
Chair Evans Becker.

1259
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:09,180
Yes.

1260
01:51:09,660 --> 01:51:10,420
Director Brinison.

1261
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:10,900
Yes.

1262
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:12,600
Director Bowman votes yes.

1263
01:51:13,140 --> 01:51:13,940
Director Bassett.

1264
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:14,500
Yes.

1265
01:51:15,340 --> 01:51:16,160
Director Hillenbrand.

1266
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:16,700
Yes.

1267
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:17,500
Director Long.

1268
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:18,120
No.

1269
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:19,220
Director Wuto.

1270
01:51:19,900 --> 01:51:20,040
Yes.

1271
01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:21,260
Motion prevails.

1272
01:51:21,940 --> 01:51:22,580
Thank you very much.

1273
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:24,180
Thank you.

1274
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:25,020
Thank you.

1275
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:25,180
Thank you.

1276
01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:25,420
You're welcome.

1277
01:51:26,380 --> 01:51:26,880
Thank you.

1278
01:51:27,340 --> 01:51:28,280
Thank you.

1279
01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:39,220
All right, we're going to move on to new business and we have a resolution accepting

1280
01:51:39,220 --> 01:51:39,840
donations.

1281
01:51:41,620 --> 01:51:46,980
And I think it's like $23,000 in donations this time.

1282
01:51:47,500 --> 01:51:52,660
So moved by director Bowman, seconded by director Bassett and let's take a roll call

1283
01:51:52,660 --> 01:51:52,880
vote.

1284
01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:54,040
Sounds great.

1285
01:51:54,040 --> 01:52:04,280
Director Brennison. Yes. Chair Evans Becker. Yes. Director Hillenbrand. Yes. Director Long. Yes. Director Woto. Yes. Director Bassett. Yes.

1286
01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:10,940
And Director Bowman Marks of Health. Yes. Motion carries. Alrighty. And thank you everyone for those donations.

1287
01:52:11,260 --> 01:52:21,960
23,000 dollars is quite a bit of money. All right. Next up on our new business is the 2627 resolutions for membership in the Minnesota State High School League.

1288
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:25,160
I think it's an executive director Williams.

1289
01:52:25,740 --> 01:52:27,780
Good evening chair back Evans-Vecker,

1290
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:29,800
I'm super into the style of members of the board.

1291
01:52:30,340 --> 01:52:32,680
I am before you today requesting approval

1292
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:36,000
of the 2627 Resolution for Membership

1293
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:37,600
into the Minnesota State High School League

1294
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:39,740
for Robinson Armstrong and Cooper High Schools.

1295
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,140
This is an annual request and just that time of year,

1296
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,080
again, some requests an approval for the resolution.

1297
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:45,680
Thank you.

1298
01:52:45,940 --> 01:52:49,300
All right, we will enact them as two separate resolutions.

1299
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:56,760
We'll let someone move the Armstrong Resolution, Dr. Bassett, seconded by Dr. Brintison.

1300
01:52:57,780 --> 01:52:59,880
All in, this is not a roll call, right?

1301
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:02,220
Okay, all in favor, please say aye.

1302
01:53:02,620 --> 01:53:02,660
What?

1303
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,840
It's a motion, it's a resolution, resolution, state roll call.

1304
01:53:07,500 --> 01:53:07,740
Okay.

1305
01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:17,480
I'm just for clarity, this is the Armstrong Resolution for membership in the Minnesota State

1306
01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:18,200
High School League.

1307
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:22,060
Okay. Great. I will take roll call.

1308
01:53:22,420 --> 01:53:24,500
Of course. Director Wuto.

1309
01:53:25,100 --> 01:53:26,700
Yes. Director Long.

1310
01:53:27,420 --> 01:53:29,520
Yes. Director Helen Rand.

1311
01:53:29,820 --> 01:53:31,380
Yes. Chair Evans Becker.

1312
01:53:31,620 --> 01:53:32,940
Yes. Director Brinison.

1313
01:53:33,300 --> 01:53:35,460
Yes. Director Bowman votes yes.

1314
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:36,860
And Director Bassett.

1315
01:53:37,020 --> 01:53:38,220
Yes. Thank you.

1316
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:38,520
The rails.

1317
01:53:38,900 --> 01:53:41,880
All right. Now do I have someone to move the resolution

1318
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,640
for the membership and for Cooper for the membership

1319
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:47,960
in the Minnesota State High School League.

1320
01:53:48,220 --> 01:53:49,480
And we have to wave through you

1321
01:53:49,480 --> 01:53:50,580
to the other resolution, too.

1322
01:53:50,740 --> 01:53:51,520
Oh, and wave.

1323
01:53:51,900 --> 01:53:52,700
Okay, thank you.

1324
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,900
Okay, so that was moved by Bridgerton,

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01:53:55,060 --> 01:53:57,600
seconded by Bowman, and there are no hands,

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01:53:57,780 --> 01:53:58,900
so let's take the roll call vote.

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01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:00,580
Sounds great.

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01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:01,640
Chair Evans Becker.

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01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:01,940
Yes.

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01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:03,860
Director Brinderson.

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01:54:04,220 --> 01:54:04,340
Yes.

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01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:05,860
Director Bowman votes yes.

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01:54:06,140 --> 01:54:06,960
Director Bassett.

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01:54:07,420 --> 01:54:07,560
Yes.

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01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:09,440
Director Hillenbrand.

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01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:09,960
Yes.

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01:54:10,180 --> 01:54:10,680
Director Long.

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01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:11,400
Yes.

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01:54:11,860 --> 01:54:12,660
Director Wu-Tao.

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01:54:12,860 --> 01:54:13,020
Yes.

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01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:14,000
Motion prevails.

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01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:14,600
Excellent.

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01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:25,530
all right now we are moving on to policy. All right so the policy we have about

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01:54:25,530 --> 01:54:33,170
12 policies in front of us for first read. Our last meeting was May 20th and I am

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01:54:33,170 --> 01:54:38,410
glad to let the public and they both know that because of the efficiencies and

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01:54:38,410 --> 01:54:44,210
effectiveness of the policy committee so far we are almost at the tail end of

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01:54:44,210 --> 01:54:47,370
reviewing all the necessary policies for this cycle.

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01:54:47,870 --> 01:54:51,330
And our next meeting will be in August, 17th.

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01:54:52,090 --> 01:54:52,610
Excellent.

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01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:56,250
And so all of these policies that you're having

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01:54:56,250 --> 01:54:58,930
the first read, if you have any questions on them,

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01:54:59,110 --> 01:54:59,970
please contact our...

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,840
Director Bhutto between now and the next meeting, because at our next meeting, we will be voting on this. All right. Cool. Okay. Moving right along. Item number 10, administrative reports. Excellent. I will start to that. Thank you. And good evening, Chairman Specker, school board directors of those of you who are still in the room at the ESC and the viewing public. Robyn Stale Area Schools, our mission is to inspire and educate all learners.

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01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,560
to develop their unique potential and to positively contribute to their community.

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01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,880
Our collective work is focused on that mission, and tonight I'd like to share some of the work in which we've been engaged.

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01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:45,940
In the strategic priority theme of academic achievement, that's not a line to mine.

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01:55:50,140 --> 01:55:52,980
I think that was the one that was in from the last.

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01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,000
Oh, from and see what I'm going to do.

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01:55:55,220 --> 01:55:58,880
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead. Do you have this one?

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01:56:04,770 --> 01:56:06,730
She's still in this one.

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01:56:06,730 --> 01:56:07,990
It's just not the only thing.

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01:56:08,850 --> 01:56:08,910
Okay.

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:43,940
Thanks, Melanie.

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01:56:44,300 --> 01:56:44,820
A slide three.

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Are we there?

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01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:46,960
Awesome.

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In the Strategic Priority Theme of Academic Achievement,

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:51,760
I want to take this opportunity to celebrate

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01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,500
one of the community's greatest accomplishments,

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01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,080
the successful graduation of the class of 2026.

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Last week, our schools and programs came together

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01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:02,960
to recognize and honor students from across

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,880
Robin'sdale area in schools, including graduates

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01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,900
from the Robinsdale Transition Center,

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01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,760
Adult Academic Program, Armstrong High School,

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01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:13,840
Robinsdale Virtual Academy, and Cooper High School.

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01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:15,560
Each graduation ceremony

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,560
reflect the unique journeys, talents,

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01:57:17,700 --> 01:57:19,220
and aspirations of our students,

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01:57:19,220 --> 01:57:21,140
whether the students are entering the workforce

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01:57:21,620 --> 01:57:23,320
or pursuing higher education,

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01:57:23,500 --> 01:57:26,200
joining the military or exploring other opportunities,

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01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,680
they leave our district prepared to take on their next step.

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01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:34,420
It's a celebration not only for our graduates,

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01:57:34,420 --> 01:57:39,540
But for the families, educators, and community members who support them along the way.

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01:57:39,940 --> 01:57:45,160
So I know you've been scrolling some of those pictures, so I'll just gonna keep reading a couple things that I have.

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01:57:45,620 --> 01:57:51,780
The photos captured here show some of the excitement, the pride and the joy that filled the graduation ceremonies this year.

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01:57:52,180 --> 01:57:59,460
From crossing the stage and receiving diplomas to celebrating with family, friends and staff, these moments represent years of hard work.

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01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:05,220
and it's so fun to see the pride in the faces of our graduates and the families and

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01:58:05,220 --> 01:58:06,260
loved ones who support them.

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As you look through these final images, I hope you see what makes Robin's Tale Area

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01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:11,620
Schools so special.

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01:58:11,780 --> 01:58:16,680
Every graduate has a unique story and each ceremony serves as a reminder of our mission.

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01:58:17,980 --> 01:58:19,340
Congratulations once again.

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01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:22,360
The class of 2026 were incredibly proud of all.

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01:58:22,460 --> 01:58:26,760
You've accomplished and we look forward to seeing the impact that you will have for years

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01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:27,300
to come.

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01:58:27,300 --> 01:58:33,240
I think at each of the graduations, I think RTC helped me out team, but I think we had

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01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:40,720
about 12 students graduating, adult academic programming, we had I think 10 that night,

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01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:51,180
9 that night, at Armstrong we had 455, the virtual academy, I think there were about 55,

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:57,240
that

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:01,060
are inching up to that thousand points, 9.50.

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01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,260
So lots to celebrate for sure.

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01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,540
Also in the strategic theme of academic achievement

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01:59:06,540 --> 01:59:08,460
at school years coming to a close,

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01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,760
our school's found countless ways to celebrate students.

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01:59:12,260 --> 01:59:13,960
This photo is from our early learning

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01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,420
and at the end of the year celebration

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01:59:16,420 --> 01:59:17,840
at New Hope Learning Center

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01:59:18,460 --> 01:59:23,540
where approximately 770 people attended.

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01:59:23,820 --> 01:59:26,360
So again, we got to see some of that team here tonight

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:32,920
And that question about capture rate and how we make sure that our residents are choosing,

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01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,520
our early learning is really, really important.

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01:59:37,500 --> 01:59:42,180
The photo is the next photo highlights just a few of the many traditions that make the

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01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:46,640
end of the year so meaningful as see graduating seniors return to their elementary schools and

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01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:48,660
caps and gowns, walking the halls.

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01:59:48,980 --> 01:59:50,900
We do that in all of our buildings.

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01:59:50,900 --> 01:59:51,980
It's a great tradition.

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01:59:51,980 --> 01:59:57,080
At Neal Elementary, kindergarten students celebrate their own important milestone, probably

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01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,960
performing for family members and demonstrating just how much they...

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,700
They have learned during their first year. Our schools also found creative ways to bring

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02:00:04,700 --> 02:00:10,440
entire communities together as the year ended. At Fair Pilgrim Lane, students enjoyed

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02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:15,260
the end of the year's celebration with food trucks and ice cream. At Noble Elementary,

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02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:20,360
students, family, staff, and alumni gathered for the final roar, especially events honoring

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02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:27,260
the school's history, traditions, and generations of students who have called Noble home, definitely

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02:00:27,260 --> 02:00:29,360
and ultimately filled with a lot of great memories.

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02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,280
In the strategic theme of student engagement

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02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:35,680
while being last week, our Indian education program

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02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,920
hosted its annual honoring event of powerful evening

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02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:41,120
dedicated to recognizing the accomplishments

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02:00:41,540 --> 02:00:43,560
and cultural identity of our native students.

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02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,740
This event is about more than awards.

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02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:47,940
It's about affirming the present strength

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02:00:47,940 --> 02:00:49,480
and future of Indigenous learners

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02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,140
in our schools and communities.

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02:00:51,740 --> 02:00:52,440
It's events like these

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02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:54,300
that's deep in student engagement and connection

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02:00:54,300 --> 02:01:00,240
and he reminded us how important it is that students see themselves reflected and valued

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02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:05,960
as they thrive. Also in the strategic theme of student engagement well-being, one of

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02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,460
the highlights of May was welcoming our superintendent for a day's Shavashton-Harsheim

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02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:16,000
fourth grade student from C. He spent the day shadowing me and getting a behind the scenes look

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02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:22,620
at everything that's happening. He had lots of meetings with our CFOs. We learned a lot about

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02:01:22,620 --> 02:01:29,260
finance. He was with HR. He was with Dr. McDowell. He got a chance to go to the Transportation

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02:01:29,260 --> 02:01:36,240
Center and he didn't drive the bus, but he was definitely honking the horn. And we asked

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02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:41,120
for his advice on a few things. He also had the opportunity to meet with Chair Evan Specker,

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02:01:41,780 --> 02:01:46,560
recorded video message and join us for lunch. So it was really a fun and special day.

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02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:54,120
In the strategic theme of staff development, we've had opportunity to recognize and thank

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02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:58,860
dedicated staff for their years of service throughout the last couple of weeks in all

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02:01:58,860 --> 02:02:03,960
of our buildings at our staff meetings and collectively our honorees represent decades

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02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:07,680
of service, commitment, and care to our school district.

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And we certainly thank them for that.

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02:02:10,900 --> 02:02:15,460
The district is fortunate to have exceptional teachers in our schools in the spring we had

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02:02:15,460 --> 02:02:18,240
an opportunity to celebrate a couple of those.

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02:02:18,660 --> 02:02:22,780
I want to congratulate Cooper High School Art Teacher Claire Milke, who was named the

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02:02:22,780 --> 02:02:26,100
2026 Robin Sale Teacher of the Year.

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02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:32,300
She joined Cooper in 2013 and has inspired students through creativity, self-expression,

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02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:33,720
and meaningful relationships.

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02:02:34,580 --> 02:02:39,740
Claire was recognized at the Robin Sale Federation of Teachers Seven Dreams Education Foundation

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02:02:39,740 --> 02:02:41,840
events on May 21st.

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02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:50,220
Claire was also selected by Cooper Senior Class to speak at graduation on Friday, so really

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02:02:50,220 --> 02:02:52,280
amazing, and we congratulate her.

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02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:58,420
We're also proud to congratulate Lisa Pleven of the School of Engineering and Arts,

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02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:02,320
who was named the 2026 Education Assistant of the Year.

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02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:07,700
She's a tutor education assistant at C and has been there for the last four years, and

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02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:09,780
we congratulate and thank her as well.

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02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:16,700
As we conclude, I'd like to take a moment to thank the board, our staff, students, families

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02:03:16,700 --> 02:03:19,700
and community members for your continued partnership and support.

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02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:26,380
We launched the 2025-26 school year with the theme of take yourself on and I don't believe

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02:03:26,380 --> 02:03:32,380
any one of us could have predicted last August the scope of what that would mean to any of

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02:03:32,380 --> 02:03:34,440
us, what it would mean to take ourselves on.

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02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,160
Today is our last day of school with students.

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So this afternoon, I took the time to visit the four schools that are being closed next

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02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:43,580
year.

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02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:50,600
It's on as an elementary school, Robin'sdale Middle School, Noble Elementary School, Fair

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02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:51,360
School Crystal.

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02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:58,300
I saw brave faces of leaders and staff who remain focused on celebrating students in front

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02:03:58,300 --> 02:04:00,540
of them rather than the emotions of the day.

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02:04:00,540 --> 02:04:04,040
And I felt the enormity of the year weigh on me.

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02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:08,640
As I stood with the noble elementary staff as they wave goodbye to students,

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02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,820
as the buses were leaving noble for the final time.

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02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:16,120
Indeed, this has been a very difficult year for us.

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02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:21,580
And the years also brought some amazing opportunities, joys, growth, and celebrations.

1483
02:04:22,260 --> 02:04:25,800
Our students continued to learn, our staff continued to serve our community,

1484
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:32,080
and to serve our students and our community continue to come together in support of our schools.

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02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,560
I'm proud of what we've accomplished together.

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02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,560
Grateful for the dedication of everyone who helped make Robin's Delary School

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02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:41,980
a place where students can believe, belong, and become.

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02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:44,740
Just two other things I want to note.

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02:04:46,700 --> 02:04:52,760
After hearing Peter's presentation, I want the board and the public to know that we have a

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02:04:54,220 --> 02:04:59,900
informative newspaper that will be in the hands of our public, going to mailings to

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02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,880
All residents that they'll get the end of this week or the beginning of next week, that was from feedback and input that we had received aligned to what Peter's survey said that people want to see kept things in the mail, they want to feel them. So it is a informative newspaper that our medications team and senior leaders have put together. It updates everyone, not only a whole bunch of really cool student events and school events, but it also has a lot of improvement.

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02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:34,360
information about the work that the board has been engaged in for the last several months.

1493
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:40,780
Also board members, per the superintendent evaluation timeline, I have materials for

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02:05:40,780 --> 02:05:41,780
you to review.

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02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:47,460
So you can take those with you when you go, and now I will hand it to Dr. McDowell for his

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02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:48,360
admin report.

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02:05:51,980 --> 02:05:53,060
Thank you, Dr. Stone.

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02:05:55,460 --> 02:06:00,800
Very short, but I want to try and wrap up the presentation from Peter, just as we get

1499
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,940
into the mold of now what question should we ask where do we go from here so I've just

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02:06:04,940 --> 02:06:11,980
a couple slides that have put together that are hot hot off the press in terms of discussion.

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02:06:12,340 --> 02:06:19,920
So just as a reminder when we were talking about the $515 million what we were talking about

1502
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:27,180
is individually for each building this is the cost right that we've anticipated makes up the

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02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:33,660
total of the $515 million. So that's the big scope. You've had this information before.

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02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:34,080
Next.

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02:06:36,830 --> 02:06:42,150
Then when we're looking at this, what made up this vision, what we've been going off of, right?

1506
02:06:42,330 --> 02:06:46,750
It's made up of the LTFM dollars, which we talked about a little bit, and bond dollars.

1507
02:06:46,970 --> 02:06:57,390
And so what Peter presented tonight was the test for that $425 million in bond or voter approved bonding.

1508
02:06:57,390 --> 02:07:01,730
So, this slide is what those questions were based off of.

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02:07:04,140 --> 02:07:10,740
Last time we talked, Kristen shared this slide with you over the impact between the two

1510
02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:16,820
different options and that it was going to be about $30 total a month for a median

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02:07:16,820 --> 02:07:20,680
home for the $515 million total project.

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02:07:21,180 --> 02:07:28,160
If you didn't do that and you just had LTFM, it would be $16 for the median home to do a

1513
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:33,400
140 million of combined investments that are just LTFM, next slide.

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02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:40,300
So what I wanted to just make sure we have some clarity on as you're thinking about this,

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02:07:40,740 --> 02:07:49,000
that assumed vision was for, so this is just the voter-approved part, $23 per month

1516
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:55,020
on the median home to get us to $425 million of that large concept.

1517
02:07:55,020 --> 02:08:00,540
But the tax tolerance, however, came in at that $14 to $15 a month.

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02:08:00,860 --> 02:08:07,000
So what Kristen has been working with with PTAA today, what we were able to get from

1519
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:10,060
that then is that's the equivalent of $340 million.

1520
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:18,260
So if you as a board said we're going to go, we want to go out for a referendum to get

1521
02:08:18,260 --> 02:08:27,360
that $14 to $15 a month. That's going to get you $340 million in revenues from voter approved.

1522
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:32,800
That would mean that we'd be $85 million less than the $425.

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02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:36,620
So here's why I wanted to share

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02:08:36,620 --> 02:08:40,800
these slides with you. Because I think as a board, as we prepare for June 8th, because if you're

1525
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:47,580
a member, the plan all along has been to take tonight. June 8th and June 15th for you to have

1526
02:08:47,580 --> 02:08:53,620
discussions around what do you want to do because July 6th we've got to have everything submitted.

1527
02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:01,240
So we've pretty much got some reactions to the survey. That was the first part. The second is

1528
02:09:01,740 --> 02:09:07,160
just another solicitations for what's the information and options for June 8th based on

1529
02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:14,620
any board direction. The reason that I think that question is important is if we know that we're

1530
02:09:14,620 --> 02:09:19,240
about 85 million less than what that proposed assumption was.

1531
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:26,720
What our thoughts were today as we're processing through this was to come on the A with here

1532
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:35,900
are some revised options that are at the $300 within the $340 million range so that you

1533
02:09:35,900 --> 02:09:39,740
could have a discussion about doing like this, doing not like this.

1534
02:09:40,420 --> 02:09:44,500
What I would ask the board, and even if it's not right now, what as you're sending

1535
02:09:44,500 --> 02:09:50,760
questions, Dr. Stalo, if there's something you want to see, like what if we did instead

1536
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:56,300
of doing this school this way, is there an opportunity to do this this way?

1537
02:09:56,580 --> 02:09:59,980
Because what ends up happening is we now have a

1538
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:29,080
So now we, we scope in, right? The example I've been using today is you're at a spot with a house where you find the lot you want, and you're going to build this house on it. And you discover that there was something happened in the lot itself now cost twice as much as what you thought. So you only have this amount now on the house. The vision can still come to be. It's just.

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02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:43,420
how do we want that sandbox to look and I think the information that Peter gave on the priorities that the community gave will help you as board members in trying to figure out what are some things that we want to entertain.

1540
02:10:43,940 --> 02:10:53,460
It will then be our work to get this together for you for next Monday so that we can give an idea of what does it look like?

1541
02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:57,500
what does it not look like? We already have Nexus working on some stuff for us.

1542
02:10:57,580 --> 02:11:01,420
We meet with them tomorrow morning to really start figuring out different

1543
02:11:01,420 --> 02:11:07,040
potential options to take some big chunks out of what still can be.

1544
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:11,140
But I just wanted to make sure to share that with you and try to

1545
02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:15,960
put some closure on the Leatherman survey and tee up.

1546
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,800
What would you like to know now that you know that that's the dollar amount?

1547
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:24,340
It's really not a 425. It's a 340.

1548
02:11:27,230 --> 02:11:28,590
I think I'm hoping that's helpful.

1549
02:11:29,950 --> 02:11:35,510
Take any questions. Didn't intend for it to have to be a huge conversation now, but

1550
02:11:39,580 --> 02:11:45,740
Dr. Bassett, I have a question. So in the presentation that Mr. Leatherman gave, he talked about

1551
02:11:45,740 --> 02:11:52,080
metered the use of that term. One of the things that you have provided for us already is you have

1552
02:11:52,080 --> 02:12:00,540
kind of a phased, you know, that chart that says all the way to 2030, 2031, I do think that

1553
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:07,880
and as I understood him to say, Meadard, in my mind, that meant you don't have to do everything

1554
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:13,960
right now. You know, you could decide to do some things. So, if you would give some thought to

1555
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:19,860
that and see if there's some recommendations that what you know, kind of your,

1556
02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:23,020
That would be helpful.

1557
02:12:27,530 --> 02:12:34,630
Just a quick and I don't know if this is a good suggestion or a bad one and obviously you can't count on money like this.

1558
02:12:34,910 --> 02:12:40,770
But have we considered things like kind of paying county sports grant for the gyms for the high school for example.

1559
02:12:41,770 --> 02:12:47,750
The new gyms that are being added or things like that to help offset some of the costs.

1560
02:12:48,330 --> 02:12:52,550
So, for something like a referendum at this point, we wouldn't consider that as part

1561
02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:58,270
of the game, but what we would back to the metered question, it could potentially be something

1562
02:12:58,270 --> 02:13:06,330
where it's an option for lay, we can do everything but this and our anticipation is to find

1563
02:13:06,330 --> 02:13:10,370
an additional funding source, whatever that might be, to do this.

1564
02:13:10,510 --> 02:13:13,290
Right, or the pool, for example, it's at the same-

1565
02:13:13,290 --> 02:13:15,470
It might be an option, I mean, to implement, sorry.

1566
02:13:16,530 --> 02:13:18,130
Just thinking about it, and obviously grants,

1567
02:13:18,370 --> 02:13:21,050
you can't count on that, getting that, but just a thought.

1568
02:13:22,050 --> 02:13:26,870
We will also, this is why when the question came up,

1569
02:13:26,870 --> 02:13:29,650
even around selling buildings and things like that,

1570
02:13:30,030 --> 02:13:33,130
we wait and we wait until we know enough information

1571
02:13:33,710 --> 02:13:36,330
to say, well, is this something?

1572
02:13:36,970 --> 02:13:38,770
If we can get this much money,

1573
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:40,710
would it potentially pay for this?

1574
02:13:40,710 --> 02:13:46,250
So yes, your question is really, when do we start considering alternate revenue sources

1575
02:13:46,250 --> 02:13:50,690
as a reality, and that will be phased like everything else?

1576
02:13:51,950 --> 02:13:56,450
The only other example that I want to add to that is we've seen some school districts

1577
02:13:56,450 --> 02:14:02,650
that especially have academies or pathways programs, and there might be a healthcare wing

1578
02:14:02,650 --> 02:14:07,510
that gets some kind of annual support from a hospital or something like that.

1579
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:12,890
But again, Dr. McDowell's point, that's not part of the referendum phase, but it can

1580
02:14:12,890 --> 02:14:17,250
help with securing additional program funding if it's a long-term part.

1581
02:14:23,890 --> 02:14:24,450
Dr. Long.

1582
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:31,510
So I was wondering about, you know, if we're going to go to this one high school, why do we

1583
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:37,430
have one of our high schools on the opposite end of the district, speaking of high view?

1584
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:42,710
How are they going to get access to the CTE programming and the other things when they

1585
02:14:42,710 --> 02:14:44,450
They aren't in that same building.

1586
02:14:45,050 --> 02:14:50,090
Is there any way that that could be changed and they could be within that same building?

1587
02:14:50,590 --> 02:14:54,370
And not away and stuck with middle school yet again.

1588
02:14:54,770 --> 02:14:59,010
I guess that's one thing that I really dislike about this whole plan is that.

1589
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,680
I view again is stuck with middle school when they're high school students. Yeah, so programatically from a square footage standpoint, it absolutely is something you consider. It's probably because it would be an additional space piece. It would be additional square footage. So you'd have to decide what aren't you going to do in order to make that type of additional square footage adjustment to what is now laid out as the Cooper High School.

1590
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:34,420
site, New Hope Learning Center site for a single high school.

1591
02:15:35,860 --> 02:15:45,280
For me, that brings up a big equity issue about what they have access to versus what other high school students have access to, and it makes it unfair for those students.

1592
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:55,120
Yeah, the only other thing, and we haven't, we haven't to my knowledge, surveyed students, staff at our, at high view, but

1593
02:15:55,120 --> 02:16:01,720
I know that there's other districts and research that would say that students don't want

1594
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:06,980
to be part of a traditional high school, you know, for some students they're choosing

1595
02:16:07,580 --> 02:16:14,720
to be in a smaller venue and not it to be part of the high school, but we have not asked

1596
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:17,060
that question of our staff or students.

1597
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:22,240
Well, and I think of any students who would be perfect for CTE instruction, it would be

1598
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:22,500
those.

1599
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:29,380
Yeah, you know, there's great partnerships currently that HIVU has with HTC and so, yeah,

1600
02:16:29,420 --> 02:16:29,820
for sure.

1601
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:35,240
I think Director Long, one thing you're bringing up though that's important, that we will

1602
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:40,840
come back with is the potential of what programs might have to go someplace else, where can

1603
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:47,280
we find some efficiencies just in general for you as a board to kind of chew on and see,

1604
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:48,540
is it of interest?

1605
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:50,720
We'll have to look at all that.

1606
02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:55,780
But the only thing that I would, other thing I would ask is given that it's next Monday

1607
02:16:55,780 --> 02:17:01,180
and some of the questions might require that we also have to coordinate with Nexus or

1608
02:17:01,180 --> 02:17:10,980
with walled as the architects see feasibility that if they can come in before we hit Friday

1609
02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:16,300
so that we can at least try to coordinate some things before we hit Monday, that'd be great.

1610
02:17:16,300 --> 02:17:23,280
The other thing that, just a reminder of language, we will most likely be coming on the

1611
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:30,960
eighth with a, the first generic look at our review and comment piece so that it starts

1612
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:37,000
to become a fill in the blank part for June 15th if that's the direction you end up

1613
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:37,300
going.

1614
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:40,160
So we'll have that as well for you to work through.

1615
02:17:44,630 --> 02:17:53,870
So, at the end of one of our recent meetings, we saw the garage on it, and you know there's

1616
02:17:53,870 --> 02:17:55,650
not something we've talked about very much at all.

1617
02:17:56,350 --> 02:18:04,290
So if there's any kind of crystallized information about where that's at, it would be helpful

1618
02:18:04,290 --> 02:18:08,990
to kind of refresh around that, because we really never have talked about it fully as

1619
02:18:08,990 --> 02:18:09,290
a board.

1620
02:18:09,290 --> 02:18:13,970
And, you know, I don't even know, well, there is a lot that could be talked about because,

1621
02:18:14,110 --> 02:18:18,050
of course, you know, it doesn't fit our buses, but that's a whole other thing.

1622
02:18:18,970 --> 02:18:23,950
Yeah, we will have to bring that up as well because that's as priorities go as you saw,

1623
02:18:24,210 --> 02:18:28,750
something like that didn't make anywhere close to a priority less. So that's why, kind of,

1624
02:18:28,750 --> 02:18:33,710
why I wanted to share this little slide deck and I think Molly has it uploaded because I wanted

1625
02:18:33,710 --> 02:18:38,990
you to be able to see that list that has all the buildings on it and the anticipated costs for

1626
02:18:38,990 --> 02:18:43,550
all of them, because I think that would be helpful in trying to decide, okay, if I

1627
02:18:43,550 --> 02:18:47,270
add do, make a different decision, could we look at this?

1628
02:18:48,310 --> 02:18:48,910
Thank you.

1629
02:18:49,710 --> 02:18:50,350
Thank you.

1630
02:18:51,450 --> 02:18:53,670
The end of administrative reports.

1631
02:18:54,590 --> 02:18:55,250
Yeah, thank you.

1632
02:18:55,670 --> 02:18:55,990
Thank you.

1633
02:18:56,670 --> 02:19:02,910
All right, this moves us into board committee reports and board reports, and we had listening

1634
02:19:02,910 --> 02:19:03,450
time tonight.

1635
02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:06,470
So we're going to start with Director Brindison, who was the facilitator.

1636
02:19:06,470 --> 02:19:07,090
Thank you.

1637
02:19:07,250 --> 02:19:13,410
We had seven speakers tonight on a variety of subjects, those subjects included classroom

1638
02:19:13,410 --> 02:19:23,410
safety, support for our EAs, some guidance around the FAC, some special education concerns

1639
02:19:23,410 --> 02:19:30,470
on how e-vals work, listening hour, and having streaming access, equity within the school

1640
02:19:30,470 --> 02:19:35,910
specifically around music programs, and how to work better together to solve problems in

1641
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:41,730
the community. Thank you. Would you like to do your board report? Yeah absolutely. I think the

1642
02:19:41,730 --> 02:19:49,410
big thing obviously we graduation was last week. It's Monday, right? Yeah. So I had the opportunity

1643
02:19:49,410 --> 02:19:58,790
to go to RTC and the adult academic program. Graduations went to the other three as well, but I want

1644
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:59,770
want to give the extra love.

1645
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,980
For the RTC and the adult academic program, those were great ceremonies. That's the end of my report. Yeah, Director Long. Yeah, so I attended the graduations at the Convention Center. I didn't get to attend the ones on Thursday because of work commitments and attending the 287 school board meeting. So at the 287 school board meeting, we had a board retreat before our school board meeting. At that retreat, we discussed the upcoming review of the

1646
02:20:29,980 --> 02:20:35,200
Superintendent, we also discussed what her goals will possibly look like coming up.

1647
02:20:35,440 --> 02:20:40,580
So we had some preview into what that needed to look like.

1648
02:20:40,660 --> 02:20:46,300
We also discussed as a board what we wanted our other retreats to be involved in.

1649
02:20:46,580 --> 02:20:53,940
So everybody went around and shared ideas of what they would like to learn more about as a school board member so

1650
02:20:53,940 --> 02:20:56,960
that we could set up those school board retreats around that too.

1651
02:20:56,960 --> 02:21:04,480
So during the meeting they shared their strategic goals, the outcome of that, some of their

1652
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:09,240
goals they did not meet and so they shared that information about not meeting their goals

1653
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:14,120
and kind of some information about why they felt those goals were not met.

1654
02:21:15,380 --> 02:21:20,560
And we also got a presentation from Food Service in the district.

1655
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:27,160
One of the things that I found interesting from that presentation is that the food service

1656
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:35,280
cannot spend more than 10% of their budget on non-domestic food purchases and so they

1657
02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:39,300
said that made it really hard for seasoning of food and things like that because a lot

1658
02:21:39,300 --> 02:21:47,880
of the seasons that they use for food are non-domestic and not, you know, U.S. made also

1659
02:21:47,880 --> 02:21:55,160
So came about the question of ethnic foods, too, where that also causes an issue in that

1660
02:21:55,160 --> 02:21:56,180
budget, too.

1661
02:21:56,900 --> 02:21:57,920
So that's it.

1662
02:21:58,740 --> 02:21:59,220
Thank you.

1663
02:22:00,260 --> 02:22:01,020
Dr. Bassett?

1664
02:22:01,940 --> 02:22:03,500
Well, very quickly.

1665
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:10,520
Oh, that was so much fun going to the Ferris School on our parade.

1666
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:16,540
I missed their closure date because I went to another event, but it was really well attended.

1667
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:17,860
It was really a lot of fun.

1668
02:22:17,860 --> 02:22:23,200
They were the kids are great, the staff was upbeat, it was great, great low parade.

1669
02:22:24,460 --> 02:22:29,760
Kudos to Ms. Milky, and of course that's been mentioned already, the RFT honoree.

1670
02:22:29,860 --> 02:22:34,660
And then of course it was fun to see her at graduation, be selected, and she came prepared at our little stool.

1671
02:22:35,100 --> 02:22:37,620
That was really cute, so I'll see in her do that.

1672
02:22:38,540 --> 02:22:44,160
And so of course congratulations to the families and the students and the who graduated, that's always wonderful.

1673
02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:48,280
So, thanks, Drew, Superintendent, for touring the New Hope Learning Center with me.

1674
02:22:48,740 --> 02:22:49,980
I had a chance to pop on over there.

1675
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:53,760
And then the Armstrong Art Show, which was really great.

1676
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:58,820
I saw some great pieces, and some of the students who had made them weren't quite there.

1677
02:22:58,980 --> 02:23:04,380
But I heard from one of the moms, and so a lot of good things are happening, and so I really

1678
02:23:04,380 --> 02:23:09,600
like that there's more of a focus and an emphasis on many of the good things that are happening,

1679
02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:11,140
although it's a challenging time.

1680
02:23:11,140 --> 02:23:17,840
so we recognize that, but there was a lot of good and I was too late to miss the

1681
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:23,360
trap shoot. There were 60 students there. I got there late and you know I saw

1682
02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:24,080
miles view.

1683
02:23:26,380 --> 02:23:32,640
So anyway that's it. Okay. I had the opportunity to attend all five

1684
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:37,800
graduations and it's just one of the best couple days of the year seeing the

1685
02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:42,060
joy, the feeling of accomplishments, the pride in the families, the pride in the

1686
02:23:42,060 --> 02:23:47,700
kids. It's just really great. I love that a lot. And also, the teacher of the year celebration,

1687
02:23:48,140 --> 02:23:53,780
you don't just hear the one teacher, you get to hear about all of the candidates and

1688
02:23:53,780 --> 02:23:58,780
the wonderful things that they're doing, and it just makes them so proud to be part of Robinsdale's

1689
02:23:58,780 --> 02:24:06,440
schools to see all of these amazing teachers. And there's representative of all the other amazing

1690
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:13,060
teachers that we have. Also, super Jennifer, a day that was a hoot. We started a mock

1691
02:24:13,060 --> 02:24:19,700
school board meeting. He read the land acknowledgement, and I got, I gavled us in. It was, it was very fun.

1692
02:24:20,340 --> 02:24:23,800
So, thank you. Just a lot of fun things to wrap up the school year.

1693
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:30,380
Yeah, I also attended some of the graduations. I was part of the year, of the year,

1694
02:24:30,380 --> 02:24:35,760
selection committee and I will have to say all I could the same we do have some

1695
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:41,680
great stuff listening to all candidates that came before the panel any one of

1696
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:49,040
them deserve to be years of the years so could go through the administration I

1697
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:56,440
know that we probably don't sing your praises enough negative news cells but I do

1698
02:24:56,440 --> 02:24:59,960
want the community to understand that for our

1699
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:07,320
Our kids to have good grades, besides the teachers, the administration support is equal important.

1700
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:13,320
So having good leadership going forward, so we are not going through superintendents every

1701
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:19,140
two or every three years as it has been the district. History, I think, is very important.

1702
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:25,740
Let's make sure that we continue to support in whichever way we can to keep the ones we

1703
02:25:25,740 --> 02:25:28,280
have, at least, there's not what I see,

1704
02:25:28,880 --> 02:25:30,380
they're probably one of the best in the business.

1705
02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:31,920
So thank you for all you've done.

1706
02:25:34,750 --> 02:25:36,310
Yeah, I just wanna say I was at graduation.

1707
02:25:36,710 --> 02:25:39,350
I was at the Armstrong graduation quite early

1708
02:25:39,350 --> 02:25:41,270
because I had to drop off my graduate.

1709
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:44,850
And so I had to see the amazing amount of work

1710
02:25:44,850 --> 02:25:47,150
that staff put in to prepare.

1711
02:25:47,770 --> 02:25:49,530
I don't, you know, as parents, you show up

1712
02:25:49,530 --> 02:25:50,850
because I have one graduate already.

1713
02:25:51,610 --> 02:25:55,090
And you see the event and it happens, it's great,

1714
02:25:55,230 --> 02:25:57,730
but you don't realize the amount of work

1715
02:25:57,730 --> 02:26:07,290
and the hours that staff are there beforehand organizing everything and then afterwards making sure everybody gets their diploma with their name on it, which is very important.

1716
02:26:08,750 --> 02:26:18,890
But really the dedication of staff, I mean there were hundreds of staff there making sure that everything went off without a hitch and I just want to say thank you to all the staff.

1717
02:26:19,390 --> 02:26:22,690
And also shout out to all the parents who sent me photos of my kid getting it.

1718
02:26:23,650 --> 02:26:30,390
I can take any, so very much appreciate it as well, and just want to say congratulations to all the graduates.

1719
02:26:30,590 --> 02:26:38,910
Congratulations to all the staff who brought those kids all the way from Pre-Hay through graduation, really amazing.

1720
02:26:39,150 --> 02:26:46,510
And to all of the other graduates, also an adult academic people who put all the work in to come back to school,

1721
02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:48,530
because that is no small feat as well.

1722
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:49,850
So thank you to everyone.

1723
02:26:49,850 --> 02:27:07,570
and also thank you to the staff behind the policy committee, because even though we say, you know, policy committee work, but really the staff, these, the last few bunches of policies have been the staff doing a lot of work and updating things for

1724
02:27:09,730 --> 02:27:15,830
legal changes and things like that. It really hasn't been a lot of work in our part. It's been a lot of lifting on the staff's part, so thank you to the staff.

1725
02:27:15,830 --> 02:27:19,550
I hope those who have a summer of, how great summer.

1726
02:27:22,620 --> 02:27:24,260
Well, here I am at the very end.

1727
02:27:24,340 --> 02:27:26,420
You all said everything I wanted to say.

1728
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,600
I was not a graduation this year.

1729
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:37,960
I actually was on vacation, rock hunting, so but having been to the last three graduations

1730
02:27:37,960 --> 02:27:41,140
and graduations before, it is an incredible time.

1731
02:27:41,500 --> 02:27:47,360
And I just want to be able to say, thank you, congratulations to the graduates, I want

1732
02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:51,720
to be able to think their families also because a graduate didn't get there alone.

1733
02:27:52,440 --> 02:27:56,120
I really want to thank also the dedicated teachers and staff.

1734
02:27:56,280 --> 02:28:01,320
As you had said, it takes this huge village behind the scenes and it takes the leadership

1735
02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:02,700
of the huge village.

1736
02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:09,720
So, thank you for Dr. Wuto for talking on that and how wonderful it is to get to this time

1737
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:14,800
of year and how much I look forward to the fall and welcoming all of them back and starting

1738
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:21,260
it all over again with all their excitement from all the little ones up so thank you to everyone

1739
02:28:21,260 --> 02:28:29,800
for the work from this past year. All right keep going. All right that wraps it up. We are finished

1740
02:28:29,800 --> 02:28:35,640
with our agenda so is that our move to adjourn. Move to seconded by, moved by Bowman seconded by

1741
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:37,100
I've asked it all in favor if we say aye.

1742
02:28:37,340 --> 02:28:38,480
I would say no.

1743
02:28:38,820 --> 02:28:40,080
We are adjourned.

1744
02:28:40,180 --> 02:28:45,740
It is 9-24.