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We're going to get started with our study session for August 24th, 2026. We have three agenda items. First is discussion on our 2027 recommended supplemental operating budget.

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We've got an hour and a half slated for that. Then we will hear a Rochester public transportation transit financial outlook update.

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and then we will have an update on economic mobility program.

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So with that, Administrator's Alps, budget.

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Thank you, Council President. Council members.

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I just want to start off the, well, this isn't moving.

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Do you need to turn it on?

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Press this button.

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got it.

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A little help from the crowd.

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So I just want to start off the 2027 recommended supplemental operating budget by thinking

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large group of people who takes to pull this together, even though we're in the supplemental

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budget, which isn't as much change as when we're in the two-year budget process. There is still

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a lot of work that has to happen in order to bring you the budget book, et cetera. So big, thank you

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to Rachel Hodick, Josh Doer, Estyn Joe said, Brian Anderson, Erin Parrish, the entire communications

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team who has to move back and forth and pull this together. You'll see that the presentation is

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a client, which was a feat in another self and then also to all the teammates who work hard

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to make sure that their base budgets are reviewed and that we are able to be able to support what

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we anticipate within the recommended budget that we started creating about a year and a half ago

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in the two year budget process. So with that, I'm going to go fairly quickly through the beginning

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as you have seen that before, but I think it's important for anyone that might be watching online

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and that hasn't been at the prior meetings.

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First, we do try to look at this through the lens of your priorities and principles, so the strategic priorities,

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which is how we focus our resources and initiatives and then the foundational principles,

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which is how we try to approach every action and decision and how we deliver on those things on a daily basis,

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whether that's operational or whether that's coming forward with projects that sometimes take five and ten years from their idea to finishing them.

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see some of that outside of City Hall today. We have been through this process, as mentioned,

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we had factors influencing the budget in April, follow up with the audit, which is what happened

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in 2025 and then again in July, the budget update with additional information. We have this study

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session on the 24th, another forthcoming on September 14th, depending on if there's more deep

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dive that we need based on the feedback we get today, and there are some other holds on the study

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session agenda depending on if there's details we need to continue to work through.

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You do have the preliminary levy adoption on September 24th, excuse me, September 21st.

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That's planned at that time you would be approving a levy that could go down or stay the

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same, but could not go up.

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So if there's something that you see here that you want to add, that's very important right

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now.

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And then the adoption of the budget is planned for December 7th at that public hearing.

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The supplemental process, as I mentioned, is not as rigorous as the two-year process.

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We don't have a new decision-package process for new ideas or expanding programming.

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The RPU budget is included in this, but as we have been mentioning over the last year

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and a half, there's a lot of refinement that's been happening with changes there.

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General Manager of McCullough will present that part of the slides, but we do have a lot more

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in this 2027 recommended, and then we've had in the past because we've wrapped up all of the work that many other people do in order to bring this to you.

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So...

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We're really looking forward, and it's important we've talked about this before, is getting any feedback on changes, adjustments, either reductions, increases, reductions to make other introductions of new ideas, and whether that 5.59% increase, which is not the tax levy rate.

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We'll talk a little bit more about that later, that's the percent increase year over year that would be required to fund the things that are in the recommended budget that are levy funded.

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Again, we've talked about the LGA before we heard from you back at the last study session that that needs to be a significant discussion in the 2028-2029 budget process about pavement preservation, both roads and trails.

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So that will probably consume much of your time in 2027 early on and again, we haven't been keeping up with the local government aid and the whole term was fell off in this 2027 budget year.

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So, to get down to the details of the budget, what we have here for all funds combined, and, of course, we would expect some of this to change with Rochester Public Utilities is a 799.3 million dollar budget.

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The vast majority of that is not funded by the tax levy, although we talk about the tax levy significantly, it's important to people who own property here.

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The total increase is that that makes up is about $6.6 million in tax-level adjustment.

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The rate increases for sewer and wastewater or excuse me for sewer are still trending

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at 1%.

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Based on the rate study, there will be updating their rate study for the 2028-2029 budget year.

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For electric, the original recommendation was 6%, but the recommendation that came through

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our pubort is at 4% which will affect the average customer by about $5 a month.

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And water has not changed since the original recommended to your budget.

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That is about 9% and a change on average of $1.78 a month.

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Again, cost of service studies are going to be forthcoming for Rochester Public Utilities for both water and electric

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and then also for sewer as I mentioned.

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So those are things that are very similar to what you saw in the two-year budget process.

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You can see how that rolls up on the right-hand side of the screening capital improvement program is a significant part of that almost $800 million budget.

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Operations though is also not insignificant.

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Just reminder that some of the operational budget for Rochester Public Utilities is related to some of that power purchase.

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So there's some, it's a little bit more unique

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that it has been in the past.

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And then debt service, again,

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increasing in 2027, primarily related

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to the sales tax debt, as well as some RPU.

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So the recommended supplemental tax level

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is sitting at $124,900,000 on approximately.

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And that is far less than what we had anticipated

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in the two-year adopted budget.

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The trend line there was at 7.4%.

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but again, we go back and comb through the budget

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and make adjustments as possible.

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The two things that are not included here

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and let me describe these accurately.

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In case we could use people,

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we did not make any increases in the tax

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literally to absorb the credit card fees

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that we're continuing to see forthcoming.

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What we had heard is that we should be looking at

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credit card fees, which we call either a surge charge

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or convenience fee.

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Those haven't been finalized,

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but we're very close to being able to bring you that.

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And then the loss of street reconstruction funding based on the local government age change,

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which I mentioned, we would look at in depth for the 2829 process.

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You can see that the property valuation growth, that there's 1.26% in new construction.

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So, naturalism, can you go back to just so I understand with the credit card fee considerations,

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the current budget that you're presenting has no change in it or does not include anything on.

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It doesn't include any increase in revenue for surcharge fees. If, for example, depending on how

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those get adopted, it's possible. You might see a slight reduction in the tax-loving that's currently

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necessary to absorb those, but if they weren't approved, then those would have to be absorbed

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within whatever budgets are approved that our tax will be added.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Norton.

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Correct.

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The remainder of that is offsetting the cost for your general fund.

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So all of the LGA that remains is going to offset your general fund, which has is a significant

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leaf.

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A significant operational cost for the tax level.

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So you can see when I mentioned that 5.59% is not 3.

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You can see that over the last approximately 10 years.

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Here's the actual property tax rate has covered between about 46% and 52% and what this current budget is showing is that the net tax capacity rate would be about 48.9% at this amount.

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So, going down slightly from what was in the 20, what influenced tax bills in 2026, again that new construction number that I mentioned is going to sort of the first any dollar in first.

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And then the remainder would be absorbed by how people's tax levy changes based on their assessed valuation and of the rest of their property class.

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Again, the vast majority of the budget is actually that funded by TaxLevy.

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You can see the TaxLevy makes about 15% of total revenue for that approximately $800 million

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budget.

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We have other taxes, special assessments, licenses and permits, fines and forfeatures,

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the penalty section there.

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Intergovernmental revenue is still a very important part of our revenue structure.

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If you think about the airport and transit, that's a significant amount of that

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services as a big one. So when you're pay your water bill, your sewer bill, your electric

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bill, and there's a significant amount of fees, et cetera, with our recreational services,

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depending on what those are as well. And then prior year revenue is revenue that's been collected

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anticipating that we will have capital improvements that we don't necessarily want to

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love before or that you don't want to increase your rates for, but have been built in with some

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of those rates studies. So it's revenue that we've collected that we knew that we would need to

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capital project. Another way of looking at that is decision packages which are in addition to the existing

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base budget, about 1.15% of that levy adjustment is coming from those. Again, you have some,

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this is after you net out from prior year where you maybe had some one-time expenses and that's

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carried in the levy so you don't need to absorb new levy for that. We had some reductions and then

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in revenue that we needed to absorb, and then we have the capital improvement plan that's necessary,

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the equipment revolving stabilization to be able to continue to buy vehicles, occur rates,

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and we now have in, we're in the first year where we do not have any COVID-era funds coming in

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for the holistic budget stability that the council created at that time to influence the levy.

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And then our ongoing base budget for levy supported employee services,

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cost increases about 3.27% obviously across the board that's slightly different and we'll get

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to that in future slides. Public safety, significant part of the general fund, the general fund

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is very reliant on tax-lovey as is the library and parks and recreation, but you can see general

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government, public works, and we have some other things there, like the outside agency, spending,

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etc. So the significant amount of the tax level is going to be able to support the public safety

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function. If you look at the property tax distribution, 70% of that property tax is going to the

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general fund. Again, that's where your police fire public works are generally located.

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Municipal Recreation, it's about a little less than 10% of that. The CIP at a library at 7.5%. We have

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some debt service and internal service costs. That's also your equipment revolving and the airport

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at a very small percentage of 0.6% part of the operation of the airport, the vast majority

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of that is coming from operations revenue that comes from the airport, but we do pay

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utilities less the natural gas and pay for the cost of customs.

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And then the total expenditures, you can see many of these services are very alert on the

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property tax because you're not charging folks if you they call 911, you're first

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based on the fact that that's an expectation,

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I think from a city, like Rochester.

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And another way of looking at this is how much reliance is there.

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So if the library's got about 87% reliance on the tax level,

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adjusting, you know, the tax level and expecting that to come from library

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would be fairly significant impact on the level of service there,

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and vice versa on some of those other implications.

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The decision packages, so that 1.15% that I mentioned on the other slide, you can see in the left-hand side, these are the specific, I guess, improvements, if you will, that would be coming from those costs.

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And we did talk a bit about the adjustment for community services, police officer and one community outreach specialist, so you can see those still reflected here on the left-hand side.

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and then there are a few decision packages

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that are non-tax lovey in some enterprise funds.

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The expenditure categories adjust and fluctuate annually

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in slightly, but you can see that miscellaneous

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is an increase this year and have been decreased before.

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Some of those things are dependent on projects

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or things that we're getting done in that year.

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But again, we try to adjust the budget as necessary. We don't just leave money in the budget if we don't need the project for that type of activity to continue on into the future year.

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An employee service costs, so I mentioned the overall tax-loving related employee services costs on a prior slide.

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And surprisingly, if you have 24 hour services, like police and public works and fire, those are going to change.

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when you have more employees that are working to provide services there, they have larger changes year over year.

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So the total personnel expense, inclusive of RPU, is a $9 million increase for all funds.

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The general fund, which I mentioned, is 70% reliant on tech's levy, is 5.7 million.

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About half of that is the police and fire departments, then you have a bit from the library,

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a bit from municipal recreation, and then you have public works and other services and about

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2.5 million of that is not just your public utilities, so water and electric employees.

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The salary and benefits, the net increase is about 5.3%. So we have the general wage adjustment,

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we have 19 bargaining units and we still have, I believe now it's actually one labor contract

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left, you did vote on one last week, and health and dental are trending at about 4% and

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1.5% for 2027, so when we make adjustments and we have less folks that are taking family care

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that actually reduces the overall impact of employee services across the board.

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In lieu parking wastewater and storm water helps to offset the cost necessary for the

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tax level based on right of what it used, et cetera, and basically that if you have a parking

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ramp you cannot have tax producing property there, but it is important for some of those

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other services, so what's reflected in the budget is your conversation from the prior study

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session. And again, the same thing for the in-loop for Rochester Public Utilities,

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Electric and Water. Community Reinvestment Funding was an

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economic development recommendations have not changed from the

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2026, 2027 budget process. So you can see those outlined here on slide 33.

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A few questions came forward earlier today. SBDC is the Small Business Development

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Center, the funds provided there also helped to offset our pull down federal dollars that are

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matching dollars for that and the history center. You can see there was an increase in a prior year

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that was primarily related to the cost of busing for school programs that they were initiating,

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just as a reminder, as I believe that that happened kind of early on in your careers here for some

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of you. And then the long range plan, I just, you can see this is all over the board. So the tax

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level percentage again is so much different than the actual net tax capacity slide that you

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saw that was hovering around flat line for the last 10 years. This is the year over year increase.

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And so as when we have new construction, more of that is absorbed by new construction, but also when

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you have new construction, you have additional pressure on your services and your service level.

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When you look at the long range financial management plan, you can see that we have projected

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out in the future that we might have higher tax-level adjustments.

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But again, we've seen in the past that we've been able to mitigate those were possible.

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We carry in the trends some capacity that you could use to reduce the levy or for new

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opportunities for investment.

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Within the levy, we also assume some personnel costs are going to change about on average

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5.5 percent, that could be less, but we're always sort of always negotiating.

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It seems like, well, I'm not Mr. Parish's and his team, and then did just want to

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point out in 2030 that we carried an assumption that that might be a year where you would

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be bonding to be able to build station six, which is the fire station in northwest.

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So that may or may not happen in that year, but we wanted to project out that there will be

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a point where we need to be actually building that facility and staffing it.

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so that is the construction and cost of that. Again, last year, we anticipated 7.4 percent

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for 2027 and what the recommended budget is, is a 5.59 percent, you're over your increase.

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Also, remember, Wall? You explained a relatively small bump in 2030. What's the larger bump

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in 2022? Oh, someone told me that, and that's already slipped my mind.

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I think it was the way that we had some one time expenses that we're falling off, so it's sort

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of the way that that shows up is because we're carrying less one time expense falling off.

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I should have taken drop in notes.

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In the meantime, I have a question.

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I imagine that the anticipated long range budget for 27 was 7.

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What was it for 2026?

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In the long range plan before that, it was much higher than the 5.95 percent.

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I want to say it was in the E to 9 percent range.

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But we were hearing that there was concerns about that, so we were trying, that was a year where we made a lot, we were very tight on the baseline budget.

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So, my point is we've anticipated higher and now for previous year and for the supplemental budget we're coming in under.

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Correct. And there are also a lot of different priorities that the city council has adopted that depending on how you implement them may have implications for the capacity that's carried here whether that is reducing the amount increasing the amount or maybe a combination of both depending on what you're looking for so that conversation about pavement maintenance that there may be is some costs that's already carried there that you want to allocate towards that versus other decision packages. So that will be an important part of our discussion early on.

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in the next budget process.

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I think that Miss Hoda has the answer.

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Thank you.

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Thank you all.

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If you noticed on that slide,

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where Allison had mentioned that the decision packs

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were at 1.15%, but yet we had two million

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in decision packs that we were funding.

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That is the same thing.

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We don't have the one-time reversals

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to reverse out of 29 yet.

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So it is the full amount of DPs

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that are included in there at that time.

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So once we get 28 and how many or one time,

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We can back that out, but that's an unknown at this point.

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So for example, if you added a police office,

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so we carry a number there, but you could use less of it

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or you could use more of it or you could use more of it.

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And so let's say there's $1.5 million for the police

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officers in there, and that comes with five cars.

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You're going to have a much higher one time cost

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for the vehicles and then after the fact

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you're going to be carrying whatever the annualized cost

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is within the equipment revolving time.

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So that's going to reduce the, you don't keep adding that to your levy.

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Council Member Miller.

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This is a related question since

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we increased in tax levy first.

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We had a presentation earlier this year from Urban 3 that contemplated some potential strategic

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investments or strategic directions to improve the efficiency of our tax base.

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How might we continue to think about engaging with that process as we look forward into

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the projections of city needs.

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Sure, a couple of ways.

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Some of that is being very thoughtful about growth and expansion areas, which you have a growth

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management plan that tries to consider that.

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You had a presentation also from Rochester Public Utilities about the water component of that

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and trying to be strategic about that.

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Also, there was some discussion on the same day.

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Not exactly urban three about whether you might be able to carry some of, basically create a

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wide project for housing, utilizing the tax increment financing district that is the DMC district.

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So that may have some implications, what are bad, depending on the way that the investment might happen.

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But of course, if you have tax increment financing, then that's not absorbing.

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But you do have a few tax increment financing districts that are decertifying at the end of this year

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that will also absorb some of that increase.

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So again, this is just a numerical look at the

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So we carry these across the various different tax funded funds and you can see how the changes in this occur across

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whether that's the general fund, the library fund, municipal recreation. Again, it's a trend line.

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This is trying to be a little bit predictive for you so that you can early on in the process say, no, I'm not comfortable with this or we don't want to do anything new this year.

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We should be focusing on police or fire or those types of different things.

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And so we also have the construction improvement fund, that's where you would see some changes potentially related to the local government aid.

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And then also the debt service there, you can see that jump up in 2030.

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So just another way of looking at the projection forward again, not a guarantee.

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But something that we try to do to understand both internally for teammates to be able to say, you know, this is going to have to be a later year.

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this is when we're, I don't think we can be able to feel comfortable carrying a new facility

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and a bunch of new decision packages at the same time. Our major revenues, again, the tax

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and tax abatements is recommended at 100 a little less than 120.

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Five million, 124.9 million, local government aid, you can see going down in the major revenues.

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And then again, down farther in the part that was allocated to the CIP. So to the mayor's question,

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what we had done with the one-time hold harmless funds was to isolate those into the capital improvement plan,

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which was focused on pavement maintenance, so that you would have a longer runway to be able to make decisions when the

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to hold harm as fell off and then looking at the hotel motel tax you can see that continuing to

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trend out by would say that's probably actually a low number but we don't want to get comfortable

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with construction related hotel activity and then be surprised by that later we continue to analyze

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that there's more information later in the presentation and then down through the information here

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you can see significant adjustments in Rochester Public Utilities. We have some major construction projects

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coming forward, so they will describe that a little bit more in the detailed section for our

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PU.

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Again, that service summary here.

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This is our existing debt service, and you can see that in 2030 we would expect that to

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go up a bit if you are, if that's the year that a new fire station funding for that would

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happen, and then some adjustments there across the board for non-debt supported funding.

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We tried every year we have debt that falls off and some of that is small and some of that is larger.

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But again, that's just our general debt profile doesn't really change that much each year.

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To have a pretty low debt profile for a city of 125,000 people and with the growth that you're a poor seeing.

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So some operating indicators, we've grown a lot since 1980, both in the maybe two council member Miller's

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as the city has grown both in geography and also in population and number of properties.

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We have seen significant growth there, but we've done what we can to mitigate the impact on on how much

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personal we're hiring to do that and taking advantage of technological advances, contracting, et cetera.

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And with that, you will not have to hear my voice anymore for a while.

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All right, I'm going to transition to most of the other funds here and then walk through some of the policy conversations.

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I'm not going to go through the general fund in detail, I'll send it a great job sort of summarizing all that, so, just kind of know that that's, you know, something that's been well taken care of here.

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We're just a note, you know, we are with the budget you have here, as well as just our historical practice.

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We are forecasted right now in 20 or have actual revenues over expenditures, a 46% for our general fund fund balance.

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member of our targets 42. We always want to be a little bit above that because it's

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that when expenditures grow, then number to get to 42 grows. So we tend to be a

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little bit higher than that. And so that's been good to have positive revenue

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over expenditures. Just talking about the special revenue funds. Parks generally, most

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of the increase here is comes in two. So there's about $3.4 million of additional

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Park investment, a lot of that is really loaded in to the sportsplex.

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Again, revenues and expenditures, you've seen sort of the operational profile there.

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There is an additional arborist in this calculation as well.

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And so just note that in the rest is staffing contributions.

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Library-wise, a very diminimous adjustment here.

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Just a couple hundred thousand dollars of additional spending.

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So this is very much focused on base operations.

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primarily attributed to employee services.

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Moving on to the airport,

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flight increase in the airport just over $40,000.

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Again, really focused on supporting baseline and capacity needs.

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There will be some fee scattered adjustments that are discussed,

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particularly in the parking space,

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but we're constantly looking at our leases

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and how those can be sort of pro-social and beneficial

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to the airport and enhance the funding available there.

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You've received some additional information today around employment.

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So, employment, surpass and directivity has been up, certainly not to pre-pandemic levels.

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All that enthusiasm around the United Flights still is there,

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but there's a delay in getting that into the system with just some broader federal airport capacity issues that we're continuing to struggle through.

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And again, a lot of our costs there are fixed, so irrespective of the number of employment or passengers we have going in and out of the airport.

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We still do the runway, snow removal, we still do all the things you have to do to successfully run an airport.

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But I also note that passengers is one marker of the airport, but I imagine you all get delivery from time to time,

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and the other kinds of things that are important for people.

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And that's certainly a growth area, but just not a metric that we track.

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We really kind of focus on the employment.

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Transit. This is a big difference. Of course you have BRT amortizing in here. We have the operation.

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Regions associated with via coming on board, which I believe that's like this week, right, like so. You'll be talking to me. You'll be talking to me in a minute. Super excited about that.

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But there was some expense there. Like this, this was a, you know, there are some costs associated with that contract.

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And then we had the BRT operations. And we have some temporary funding there to support the local share. Obviously, mail has got a very strong portion of the local share, but that is something you'll hear about in our legislative platform.

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later in the year on your study session in terms of the work we need to do to get dedicated

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to BRT funding under the enterprise.

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Can you hold a minute?

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I'll come to my moment.

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Sorry.

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Just before we move on to enterprise funds, could you go back to the municipal wreck and I just wanted

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to ask a question about the first bullet point to start one of the assumptions and concepts

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of how the performance moves forward with that is that it's largely tax-level not relying

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on the tax levied, does that continue to be the case and how is that 2.7 million increase

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for the regional sports complex fit in with that philosophy that had been part of the

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discussions of? Yeah, generally speaking, there's revenues and expenses, so the

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performance that you saw earlier, I mean, you know, those revenues obviously are offsetting

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some of the expenses, so the net to the budget, you know, as much less. But someone seeing this,

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who said this weren't supposed to cost the tax level anymore. Is that still generally the, yeah,

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what we're, what we're striving for. We obviously have some non revenue-generating activity

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happening now as they ramp in and all that, but, but yes, it's revenues and expenses and the

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the lion share of the $2.7 million dollars is offset by revenue that's coming in.

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So. Then a question about the increased monitoring and maintenance of picnic shelters and

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and facilities with RPD, just curious about why other areas of the park aren't part of that focus of the parks, maybe those are recreational facilities, parking lots,

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being how does that factor in and this is a question for RPD.

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I mean, this is new, and I believe you all received an email around this from Chief Franklin, not terribly long ago, maybe a couple weeks ago.

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I think the emphasis there is just highlighting like the core purpose behind bringing on some

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of the park, rangers or park-focused CSOs was really to make sure we had the ability to

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do bathrooms well and maintain some of the outdoor assets that we have. We're predominantly

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scheduled in the summer for that work and so indoor year-round recreational facilities would

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be sort of a gap coverage there. But I think we're learning through it and so that probably

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as we think about the 28 budget process, we could certainly say,

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like, is this going well, are there enhancements?

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But this was really sort of this pilot year

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where this is the first implementation.

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And overall, I think we've seen good outcomes.

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I've heard a lot less about bathrooms of this year,

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which has been great.

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I have as well, but I've actually heard more about parking lots

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in some dangerous activity, particularly at Soldiers Field Park,

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cars driving through the track, driving through other places.

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And I just bring that up because there's been a lot more

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activity in the tennis courts, basketball courts in other areas which is great, but there have

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been additional complaints or issues that I've heard arising from some of that activity.

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And I just want to make sure that when we talk about what we're focusing on that we're not

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missing an opportunity to be just present in the parks generally, and not necessarily just focused

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on shelters and bathrooms.

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Yeah, I think it may be all that Chief Franklin's here, I see he's noting, I don't know if he

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as an economist to make to that effect, otherwise we certainly can, you know, consider that

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a little further.

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We need to my point behind here.

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I'm Council Member, I think I can answer that.

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The Park CSO has been a force multiplier and think of them as an augmentation of our current

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patrol services.

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I can tell you that we have not reduced our footprint so that it has not replaced sworn

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police officers in the park area.

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But it's been a force multiplier in fact again that report that I provided to you guys a couple of weeks ago

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Showcase that hand-in-hand relationship in the fact that they have called us kind of that first

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Eyes-on the scene called us and helped us be that force multiplier. It's the best way I can answer that question

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And I can run a report on calls for service that we've had a part

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But I don't have those numbers right up the top. I can say that we haven't had a few like you said a few

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You know, maybe higher profile incidents at soldiers field, but I can't sit here and say that there's been this huge uptick in this

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I wouldn't suspect that there is either it's more around the erratic driving and sort of car culture perhaps of some use of some of the parking lots in the evening hours

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That continues to be an issue that we're doing our best with. Yes, thank you

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And just quickly to go back to your original question. We do have the sports plucks in its own

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Fund, so that we can measure the over under relative to the conversation about any subsidy.

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Council Member Key.

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I just wanted to clarify while we're on the special revenue municipal wreck. I see we make a reference to the new

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arbor's position that was in the decision pack. But again, I want to make sure that's not funded through this special revenue fund.

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That's that's that's levy funded position.

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Yes, so the Municipal Recreation Funds, all of those collectively, are significantly funded

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by tax-loving, but it's held as a special revenue based on how the charter works.

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So once the funds go to whether that's Parks and Rec or whether that is library, it stays

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within those funds and then they hold their own fund balance.

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Okay, so from my perspective, the decision pattern was approved, so the levy goes up and

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amount, but that money is put into this municipal wreck and then the salaries paid out of

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there. And if it's over, under the balance stays there. Correct. Okay. And you can see

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this, the Long Range Financial Forecast, you can see the amounts of levee that is allocated

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to each of the special revenue funds library and parks included. So, you can see in 12,

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of that 12 point, you know, million dollars in parks, some portion of that is the new

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of wreck things are with forestry, with...

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That's a roll-up, there's four different divisions of the wreck fund, but that's a roll-up of all four in the way we tend to, in the way the special revenue funds presented.

418
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,860
Okay, thank you.

419
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:48,940
So moving on to Enterprise Fund, so again, parking, most of the adjustments here are well-known from the rate studies that you've all talked about as well as some of the ongoing capital and operational analyses that are happening.

420
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:53,900
So nothing particularly notable to share here,

421
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,300
other than I believe we're super excited about the Center Street

422
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,020
ramp opening up again here, so it's good news.

423
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,280
So your utility has also mentioned 1% rate increase,

424
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,220
generally many, many projects happening here on the capital side.

425
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:09,140
Again, these are predominantly intended to be reflections

426
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:13,500
of the operations of the department, most of the $800 or so $1000

427
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,880
of increase here is really attributed to staffing

428
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,380
and some operating supply types of items.

429
00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:26,500
CIP tends to happen a little bit differently. Stormwater, fairly basier, as your percent increase

430
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:33,060
in the proposed rates here. So, no material changes on the enterprise funds, that way

431
00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:37,440
they continue to work through sort of the evaluations that you've all heard updates on

432
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,360
as well. So, with that, any other quick updates on enterprise funds before we transfer to water

433
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,900
and electric.

434
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,480
Welcome Mr. McCullough to the meeting.

435
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,860
Good afternoon, Mayor, Council, happy to be here to help support the budget conversation.

436
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,460
Start, just spend five to seven minutes to explain the water and electric budgets.

437
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,700
No change to our strategy. We maintain cost-based rates.

438
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:12,700
We work closely to not have intrafund or interfund rate class subsidies back and forth,

439
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:20,240
and maintain key financial ratios for bond ratings, stability, and long-term financial stability.

440
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:26,780
Total budget shows 245 million across both the water and the electric enterprises,

441
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:33,320
but there's a very different story between the two funds, and I'd like to dive in to that very briefly.

442
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:43,300
Related to the original recommendation was a 9% general rate adjustment in 2026 and then again in 2027.

443
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:51,800
We are recommending to hold to the 9% general rate adjustment that was already approved in the 2027 budget,

444
00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:57,480
but that's not without some additional pressures that are being managed with some short-term debt issuance,

445
00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:00,940
which I believe we've talked about earlier at the study session,

446
00:39:00,940 --> 00:39:05,840
as well as the other capital pressures that we may be facing in the water fund as well.

447
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:11,840
That is a net impact of $1.78 per month per water customer, the average water bill,

448
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,760
or at least the water portion of the bill in Rochester is about $20 a month for an average consumer as well.

449
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:28,560
Here you'll also notice there's $6.5 million less grant revenue in 2027 as originally anticipated.

450
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:35,140
That's due to the throttling, I would say, of the lead service line dollars coming from the state.

451
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:43,300
We were notified that the remaining balance in the lead service line pool for the state is over subscribed.

452
00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:48,480
And we expect the current balance likely to be exhausted by the end of 27.

453
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,980
So we're still continuing to make good progress there.

454
00:39:50,980 --> 00:39:58,100
but we've adjusted our outlook in 27 to about a million and a half dollars of what we anticipate

455
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,960
may still be available for led sir.

456
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,440
Service line funds in 2027. So that's the downside of the six and a half million there as well.

457
00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:09,120
Council member Miller.

458
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:15,820
Related to that, let's have a sign program. Do you plan to come back to us with a modified plan to address those?

459
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:21,040
Let's have a sign set within not be eligible because the funding is less than we anticipated.

460
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,960
That's a great question. I think our pathway there would be continued state and federal advocacy for

461
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:35,240
service line funds, these are largely all private infrastructure since the lead service lines are

462
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:40,640
owned all the way to the water main. So this is an expense that's grant funded and it wouldn't

463
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,880
be appropriate to use public funds or utility funds for that. So we would be working, I think it'll

464
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,910
be present in our legislative priority list that we'll be discussing later on as well.

465
00:40:53,930 --> 00:41:00,670
stepping into water capital. This is the really significant part of the story here. The growth

466
00:41:00,670 --> 00:41:05,570
in Rochester and housing and land development, I think, is a good new story as far as trying

467
00:41:05,570 --> 00:41:10,650
to meet our housing demands, but it's creating pressure on the water utility fund. The fee structure

468
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:16,690
that we've had in place for water development fees largely contributes only to tower storage

469
00:41:16,690 --> 00:41:20,730
and some level of chunk oversizing for water transmission.

470
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:24,410
Other water supply, well pumps, booster pumps,

471
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:26,670
are funded through base rates.

472
00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:29,010
Therefore, with the expanded growth

473
00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:31,790
that puts rate pressure there, our strategy there

474
00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:34,550
is, it's already been recommended by the board.

475
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:36,590
It'll come to the council in September

476
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:39,870
to issue short-term debt to manage those capital pressures

477
00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:41,930
where future customers would then pay

478
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:43,750
for that capital expansion.

479
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:49,490
And that is a combination of advanced metering capital,

480
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:52,650
the what we're calling the Kalmar Booster Station,

481
00:41:52,750 --> 00:41:55,910
which will be meeting the new Northwest High High Pressure Zone

482
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:57,550
around the Pebble Creek.

483
00:41:57,550 --> 00:42:01,090
I believe a subdivision area where there's a new pressure zone

484
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:04,570
and a metal lakes and del web water main extension.

485
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,870
So those three projects are anticipated to be

486
00:42:07,870 --> 00:42:09,650
meet dead issuance in 2026,

487
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:13,230
and also show up in 2027 there as well.

488
00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:19,910
Even with that financing, we're anticipating ending 27 with 10 million in cash reserves,

489
00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:23,090
which is still above minimum recommended cash reserves.

490
00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:28,290
The eagle eye on the slide would notice a missing parentheses on the bottom right cell.

491
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:33,530
That should be a minus 2.29 million.

492
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:36,790
The first and second columns are cracked.

493
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:42,070
It just was missing the parentheses there to show a downturn in cash reserves.

494
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:46,710
Electric is the more favorable change in this supplemental budget.

495
00:42:47,170 --> 00:42:53,230
I sat here a year ago and would have told you and did tell you that we needed about 6%

496
00:42:53,230 --> 00:43:00,110
general rate increases not only in 27, but through the end of 2030, so 4 years over and over.

497
00:43:00,470 --> 00:43:05,190
That was largely due to capital pressures of our firm capacity, our reliable capacity investments,

498
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:13,230
the Mt. Simon station, the gas turbine fire, we were anticipating needing approximately $241 million of debt

499
00:43:13,230 --> 00:43:19,230
issuance to fund those capital items. We've had favorable variances and both of those projects

500
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:25,890
were anticipating a debt issuance in the realm of $141 million. A hundred million dollars less is a

501
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:32,170
significant change in debt service obligations. So our recommendation is to reduce the general rate

502
00:43:32,170 --> 00:43:39,130
adjustment, recommendation in 27, down to an effective 4% and not only in 27, but the

503
00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:42,950
five-year pro-forma shows it at 4% through the end of the decade.

504
00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:47,510
So we had some very favorable results there and I'm happy to report that.

505
00:43:47,810 --> 00:43:48,670
Council Member Pomer.

506
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:50,050
I got a couple questions here.

507
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:55,830
You've got 1.3% customer growth and then you've got 3% reduction in use.

508
00:43:57,470 --> 00:44:01,910
How do you figure that out and then on your customers, what percentage basically is commercial

509
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:03,110
So which is it residential?

510
00:44:04,590 --> 00:44:06,990
I'll attempt all three parts of that question.

511
00:44:08,290 --> 00:44:10,870
So we use a 20 or 30-year history

512
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:13,410
to project forward what load growth is.

513
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:17,830
It's a combination, both of new housing starts, industrial loads.

514
00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:20,210
And so our overall customer growth

515
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:22,370
is anticipating about 1.3%.

516
00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:24,370
This is mostly residential housing starts,

517
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:27,090
a combination of multi-family and single-family houses.

518
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:30,150
But every new customer comes at less consumption.

519
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:37,450
And the new growth on a per capita basis is lower energy use.

520
00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:40,910
And so this reverts back to our 30 year forecast.

521
00:44:41,450 --> 00:44:45,750
And we budget conservatively on revenues and usage.

522
00:44:46,450 --> 00:44:48,430
So those two numbers are slightly decoupled.

523
00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:52,290
More customers, but each customer is using less on average.

524
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:56,790
And the forward forecast always is based off of not last year's results.

525
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:58,430
But a 20 year average.

526
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:59,970
So you're seeing a combination of those.

527
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:05,540
Factors there. Would you remind me the third part of your question?

528
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,080
You did remind me.

529
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,540
Oh, make sure of residential and commercial.

530
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,960
Our top 10 industrial and large customers account for about 30% of our load.

531
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:27,760
And then I would say about two thirds of our remaining energy and customer accounts are small business and residential.

532
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:39,160
So, it's about equal thirds industrial large customers, small business, and then residential, on a load basis, a third of third of third of third of third.

533
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,760
Thank you, roughly.

534
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:52,020
We are recommending accomplishing the rate adjustment the 4% and that effective by making an adjustment to the power costs baseline.

535
00:45:52,020 --> 00:46:03,080
So the rate schedule would have no change from last year and we would adjust the power cost adjustment to bring an effective 4% rate adjustment in lieu of the 6% recommended.

536
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:11,260
Moving on to electric expenses capital and debt probably most important slide here on the electric side.

537
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:17,320
Baseline expenses show a 7.7 million increase of additional interest expense.

538
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:21,680
That's the new debt issuance primarily anticipated in early 27.

539
00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:27,900
We plan to have that conversation with the board council October November time frame this year.

540
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:35,060
Two major developments I think I touched on these recovering the gas cascade creek gas turbine one

541
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:41,500
for a modest capital investment that may not be insurance-related, but largely, we believe that

542
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:47,100
can be recovered with no additional new capital outlay, and then the Mount Simon Station

543
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:48,740
is coming in much less.

544
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,660
The 4% recommendation doesn't mean we're investing less than reliability or efficiency.

545
00:46:55,980 --> 00:47:00,320
These are really just reflections of the capital program on the electric side.

546
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,820
Talk about some key outcomes.

547
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:10,180
I just have a question on the incremental FTE's graphic design and digital communications.

548
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:20,620
Is there any synergy that RPU does with city communications that is there work together

549
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:29,300
or long range planning to be a joint communications under one umbrella?

550
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:36,340
I would say yes and no, there's a strong communication that happens on a day-to-day basis related

551
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:41,740
to the work of specifically the RPU utilities in the broader city, coordinated press releases,

552
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:48,360
coordinated programs, but largely there is still a dedicated communication specialist already embedded

553
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:56,420
within RPU that handles our plugged in publication, direct customer communication, extensive communication

554
00:47:56,420 --> 00:48:01,020
on the advanced metering, we're touching a hundred thousand end points and direct customer

555
00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:01,620
communication.

556
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,080
So there's resources dedicated to the work of utilities there that are not embedded in

557
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200
a centralized division there.

558
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:13,720
This recommendation has actually in the, was in the two-year budget as a placeholder.

559
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,260
So it's already in the approved budget as far as a head count there.

560
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,120
The purpose of that one is to offload some of the outside contracting that we're doing

561
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:28,220
for the plugged in publication and some of the accessibility work that still is yet to be done

562
00:48:28,220 --> 00:48:32,860
on the visual side. So it's combination of yes and no. This is an area where I believe it supports

563
00:48:32,860 --> 00:48:38,120
core business on supporting utility customers directly and the funding should come from the utility

564
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,920
revenues there for those services. Thank you.

565
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:50,740
Key outcomes coming to the end here very quickly. On the power supply resource plan,

566
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:57,060
A largest bonded program, you'll see a decline here from 76.3 million to 55.

567
00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:03,060
That's just a matter of timing, the five-year multi-year capital plan.

568
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,840
It just changes the timing of those expenditures.

569
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,600
Similarly, on the grid north partners, you'll see an increase.

570
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:12,680
What has an apparent increase from 1.7 to 19.6.

571
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:17,360
Again, that's a timing issue of sooner than anticipated, but the five-year multi-year

572
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,640
capital shows a slight increase to 32.5 million there.

573
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,440
As I stated earlier, we're maintaining our investments in tree management day-to-day

574
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,640
reliability and some other technology and contingency work.

575
00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:39,440
On the water projects, the Kalmar Booster Station is one of the larger investments that

576
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,480
will start this year.

577
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,660
We anticipate bid award coming in late September.

578
00:49:44,660 --> 00:49:51,960
We're anticipating a budget amendment for 26 necessary in concert with the debt issuance and the budget amendment to get started on that work.

579
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:59,540
It wasn't anticipated of needing the new pressure zone and starting in 26 that also has implications to 27 expenditures.

580
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:12,760
I'm sorry. I'm one slide behind. Yep. Thank you. And then the medal lakes and del web water, main transmission, expansion. We'll be another capital, council member, key.

581
00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:23,580
Just on these specific things General Manager McCollot, I'm trying to understand, like on the calmer and also on the medal lakes, these are driven by new developments.

582
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:33,040
But it sounds like they're being worked into the rates thing, which almost sounds like their expenses are being spread across the customer base and not carried by the new developments.

583
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:39,440
Is that a policy or that's just sometimes happens with the way the work happens?

584
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,180
I would answer that, that the developments are paying for portions of that infrastructure.

585
00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:53,480
specifically with the Kalmar booster station, there's a developer contribution in kind land and a cash contribution there,

586
00:50:53,600 --> 00:51:01,260
but that booster station will serve the entire full extent of the growth area, and that land has not yet developed.

587
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:05,300
And so we need to build the infrastructure ahead of the other land development.

588
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:13,100
And yes, if we would not issue debt, it would have to be borne by current ratepayers, the plan of issuing short-term debt,

589
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:19,620
is so that the future growth can be the future customers can pay for that as the debt service is paid off

590
00:51:19,620 --> 00:51:27,340
and we do intend in concert with the water system master plan to come back with a recommendation on

591
00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:32,760
water development fees. Because as it is now, some of that is not born by future development.

592
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:36,920
It's born by the rate base. Right. And I didn't want to get into the complexity of

593
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,660
teasing those apart. But I do appreciate the goal of trying to drive the expense to where

594
00:51:42,660 --> 00:51:48,080
be in driven from and to have them paying it as opposed to just absorbing into the system.

595
00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:53,280
Yeah. Similar story on the Dell Web, the metal lakes expansion, there's some

596
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,860
direct contribution from those, but the trunk oversizing is a

597
00:51:56,860 --> 00:52:02,560
expense typically born by the RPU, what other water rate pairs. And so there's a portion of that

598
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,440
that could be collected by future water main connection fees for other developments that would be

599
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,640
served by that. That's another mechanism that we have there. But the reality is is that historically

600
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:19,220
in currently we have rate based some of that water system expansion on the water supply side.

601
00:52:19,620 --> 00:52:20,340
Thank you.

602
00:52:22,420 --> 00:52:27,840
In my glasses back on to see my notes. I believe I am at the end here.

603
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:35,900
So in summary, the water remains at the 9% recommended electric comes down to 4% for 20,

604
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:43,200
27 net impact of a dollar 78 and 517 a month total for residential customers.

605
00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:48,260
All right, any questions for Mr. McCullough?

606
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:49,700
Thank you.

607
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:52,960
All right, we're doing amazing part of time.

608
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,200
So we have a focus conversation.

609
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:02,580
These are things we've sort of picked up by Mike.

610
00:53:04,990 --> 00:53:07,830
These are things that we've sort of heard from the council that you've

611
00:53:07,830 --> 00:53:09,150
wanted to talk about.

612
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:11,970
We've tried to frame them and give you some information just to have

613
00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:13,510
conversation around each of these.

614
00:53:13,630 --> 00:53:15,330
I'll go through a few of these areas.

615
00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:17,130
I mean, some of the sides work together.

616
00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:20,550
Pause briefly for some feedback that you all have.

617
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:23,030
and then continue to move on to the next area.

618
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:25,570
So, previous council meetings,

619
00:53:25,690 --> 00:53:27,490
we've talked about better public meetings implementation.

620
00:53:28,730 --> 00:53:30,790
This really tries to give you some framing around

621
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:31,750
the email platform.

622
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:34,630
Of course, we have a gov delivery platform now

623
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:39,230
and Jenna is available for any questions in this space as well.

624
00:53:39,810 --> 00:53:42,570
We're evaluating our relationship with Granicus right now

625
00:53:42,570 --> 00:53:44,470
from a web service provision, et cetera.

626
00:53:44,590 --> 00:53:47,270
And we have many products that we're considering

627
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:49,330
whether they're about the best fit.

628
00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:53,450
They haven't been as forward-facing and advancing in the

629
00:53:53,450 --> 00:53:55,490
excessive digital accessibility space.

630
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:59,410
So I just wanted to kind of note that.

631
00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:02,310
But here's just a range of different products that I think you all

632
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:04,870
have had some level of conversation on in terms of customer

633
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:05,950
relationship management.

634
00:54:06,670 --> 00:54:09,570
Are there better ways to do outreach at a broad level just to know.

635
00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:12,330
Each time we do a new technology product,

636
00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:19,310
we have a fairly robust technology review process just for

637
00:54:19,310 --> 00:54:26,010
risk, you know, they run through a variety of different testing, etc., and we also look at that

638
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:30,990
to say, are we doing this elsewhere? Do we have a system over here that does something similar,

639
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:36,530
so we don't proliferate technology that we have to support. So there's the platform, there's

640
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:43,890
various costs with that. We also have, can you hold a, I mean, Mr. Prayer's council member, Miller?

641
00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:49,750
I guess I have a question on the slide on the third bullet point, which has an opt-in approach

642
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:52,910
is generally preferred for building an engage as the sustainable subscriber list.

643
00:54:53,630 --> 00:54:57,990
Is that a best practice among governments or is that just in general with communication

644
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:59,970
marketing tools. Maybe it.

645
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Ask them as bomb and figure out that. Thank you, council member. As far as I can't say that this is all of the research

646
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:17,720
would back this, it is in the research that I have done so far. You know, you imagine if you've opted in for something, the

647
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:26,000
chance that you will open it or engage with it, in the research that I've done just indicated that it's not meant to be in

648
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:34,300
position of the opposite or of an alternative, but just noting that that was a point to consider.

649
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,700
Okay, I'll just say from my perspective, and I know this has been said before, but I think that

650
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:44,760
I would feel that way in general, if I were making a purchase at a local real-tit retailer,

651
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,480
and they started emailing me, I might feel one way, but when I want to hear from the city,

652
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,660
and I've heard the same from residents that proactive city communication that is actionable

653
00:55:54,660 --> 00:56:01,720
relevant to the space and contextual geographically, I think, is a service that many residents

654
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:07,440
would appreciate that I wouldn't expect to fit into that assessment. I think that's true

655
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,740
if I've given money once a non-profit or something I don't want to keep hearing from them

656
00:56:11,740 --> 00:56:15,660
unless I've opted in, but I think when people want to hear from the city information that's

657
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:21,700
relevant timely and contextual is it falls out of that assessment for me.

658
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:28,280
Understood, I think the thing I would say as well, just to consider is likely if that was the path we were going down

659
00:56:29,060 --> 00:56:32,000
Awareness building on the fact that folks would have been

660
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:41,280
Subscribed and to be checking their spam that was the one thing that was noted is given the various filters that occur through email platforms

661
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:49,480
Be it a Gmail or something else of just wanting to ensure someone wouldn't inadvertently be unaware that they were getting those

662
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:57,720
by being subscribed, so it just to note that that's a piece that we'd want to ensure is clear that folks are

663
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,680
knowing what they're looking for as a part of that rollout.

664
00:57:01,180 --> 00:57:11,900
The other piece I just wanted to note there, I know there was a question in regards to the opportunity for an elected official to decide if they would like to

665
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:21,420
And so just to note in that annual cost of the 21808, that that is approximately $2,000 per

666
00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:21,800
user.

667
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:28,920
So, if not all elected officials wanted to participate in it, that is just the cost per

668
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,860
user is $2,000.

669
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:31,960
I think that's a fair point.

670
00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:37,340
Are all of these tools able to geographically understand where people fall in the city, understanding

671
00:57:37,340 --> 00:57:41,500
that some communication is relevant to an area versus citywide communication does opt

672
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:43,520
or a topical opt-in?

673
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,740
The geo, the geo,

674
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,300
any sort of geo piece to it,

675
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:49,560
that would largely be the end of

676
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,940
because otherwise you are doing

677
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:53,420
more of the opt-in.

678
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,760
There are opportunities even in

679
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,160
our existing platform for

680
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,980
folks to identify what types of

681
00:57:59,980 --> 00:58:01,440
content or information they

682
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,540
are interested in.

683
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,300
I will say we are doing less of that

684
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:06,940
today than even our current

685
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:09,260
platform would allow us to.

686
00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:10,440
Okay, thank you.

687
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:39,820
I can I just level set here. So we're in a supplemental budget discussion and I see in front of me like one to four five options and I'm not clear on the granite kiss and kind of we're evaluating. I don't know when we're sun setting that I guess what I'm looking for is

688
00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:54,420
a recommendation from staff that says, this is a community engagement tool that we believe

689
00:58:54,420 --> 00:59:04,400
is fits with what the council members are talking about the next step for our community

690
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:12,820
engagement. And so I guess my question is are we going to get a recommendation and will there be a

691
00:59:12,820 --> 00:59:21,220
recommendation that will then impact our budget for 2027? Council members, what we have talked about

692
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:26,260
consistently is that what my recommendation is is it's very important for you to have the best practices

693
00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:31,560
for elected official communication and citywide communication. Depending on the tools you use,

694
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:40,160
It's really more about any individual use of those falling within some sort of communication strategy that does not actually dilute the city communication strategy.

695
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:59,980
So that's what we had talked about before. I think based on all of the costs that are recommended here, you would have capacity within your budget or between the communications budget administration and that you, if you weren't using granite case anymore, would have whatever's budgeted for that $15,000 in capacity, you might have some one-time costs.

696
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:20,900
I know we've talked about this recently. It could absorb within your contingency, but in the grand scheme of what the general fund budget is, it wouldn't be drastically different, but I think it is really important that you have some of that policy conversation about typically we do not have individual elected officials have separate capacity to for city tax love.

697
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:26,360
funded support do different things from each other. There could be something here where if

698
01:00:26,980 --> 01:00:31,600
after all of the valuation came down, Indigov was the choice and you weren't opting.

699
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:36,700
I mean that's a policy question. Do you want to as a local government opt people into all

700
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:41,600
of your communication when they haven't chosen to get communication from you? And the way that the

701
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,820
contracts for Indigov have worked in other communities is you start paying based on email subscribers.

702
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,460
So like at some point you're getting charged based on how many of these you send out.

703
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:52,460
So it could go up over time.

704
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:55,080
I mean, I think that's a real policy question.

705
01:00:55,220 --> 01:00:57,140
Do people want us to reach out with, like,

706
01:00:57,620 --> 01:00:59,420
find out where they are, how they are,

707
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,100
and assume that they want certain information

708
01:01:01,580 --> 01:01:02,800
from a local government?

709
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:05,420
That's a question for the council as a whole.

710
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,860
And at least recently, what we've talked about is

711
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:11,400
moving forward in some sort of pathway that talks

712
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,600
about what is your communication strategy as a group?

713
01:01:15,940 --> 01:01:18,480
What are the, you know, starts and stops

714
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,340
from being an individual elected official

715
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,760
and city-wide communication

716
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,020
and what is your policy consideration for that?

717
01:01:27,460 --> 01:01:30,460
So I would like to say we would come back

718
01:01:30,460 --> 01:01:32,680
with a recommendation as fast as possible,

719
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,000
but we're also trying to do active communications

720
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,200
through a significant amount of construction

721
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,380
and things of that nature.

722
01:01:38,900 --> 01:01:42,080
And I do think having some of that policy framework

723
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,680
is important for whatever tool, whatever tool

724
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,440
may come forward.

725
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:47,140
Mayor Norton.

726
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:59,540
Yes, this has been an issue that we've talked about and I will give just two quick examples that have happened in the last week.

727
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,440
I've had people say, gee, I wish I'd known about your town hall and transportation.

728
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,200
I would have loved to have been there, but I didn't know about it until after the fact.

729
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:17,800
So that's one example and that's one of the reasons why being able to reach out to constituents in a personal way via email as opposed to

730
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,420
hoping they see it on social media would be helpful.

731
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,160
The other is literally today, I responded to hundreds

732
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,400
and hundreds of emails,

733
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:30,620
hundreds and hundreds of emails.

734
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,520
And the first one I got back was how little you

735
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,160
care for your constituents because it was so impersonal.

736
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,680
Because we don't have a way to personalize our emails.

737
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:53,880
I spent, I can't tell you how many hours putting together a very thoughtful note that I thought would explain something to constituents.

738
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:59,540
It was viewed as too impersonal because it was dear friend,

739
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:06,820
because I was sending the same letter to hundreds and hundreds and ultimately through thankfullychange.org.

740
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,040
3,000 people, they did it for me in their way.

741
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,520
I don't have a way to do that.

742
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:19,580
So, we need to improve our methods of communication, not necessarily what the city is doing,

743
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:27,320
but how we, as individual elected officials, have access to and communicate with our constituents.

744
01:03:27,620 --> 01:03:36,020
And I think whether it's through a pilot or additional research, I would love to see you all as council members have,

745
01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:45,020
the next mayor have ways to communicate effectively with their constituents and it is harder and

746
01:03:45,020 --> 01:03:50,180
harder with all the new technologies and different methods of communication that are being used

747
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:55,380
and frankly, the lack of one source media that we used to have in this community that we don't

748
01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:56,180
anymore.

749
01:03:57,060 --> 01:03:57,960
Councilmember Miller?

750
01:03:58,580 --> 01:04:03,720
I just had, I mean, to the question of opting in, I mean, we send mailings as citywide,

751
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:09,060
summer fund, we opt people into receiving that, we send postcards or neighborhood information

752
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:14,820
meetings, we opt people into receiving those, and we hear from people who have reduced

753
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:20,640
postal service or other access or change of address forms, as reasons they don't see

754
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:25,780
that physical mailing, and I don't suspect that this is a catch all either, but as we

755
01:04:25,780 --> 01:04:30,800
see communication tools modernized, it does feel like an area of opportunity even, it's

756
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,840
the staff level to be able to work on more modern electronic communication tools.

757
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:38,700
And when I talk with people, they expect that I already have a way to communicate with

758
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,860
them, know where they live and other things, and except for running for election and getting

759
01:04:42,860 --> 01:04:46,980
the Secretary of State voter data, I think it's an misunderstanding from people generally

760
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:52,320
that we don't have an up-to-date list of where they live and who isn't that residents because

761
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,860
we don't opt into these data sources.

762
01:04:53,860 --> 01:04:59,940
I'll just add, when we started.

763
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:27,060
This discussion on increasing community engagement by all decision makers, including all eight of us that are at this table, we and that was a part of the better public meetings discussion back in February, and we said we want to increase the visibility of all of us as council members, because our constituents want to know who those decision makers are.

764
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:35,460
And we've started that process with the passports that are great, that increases our visibility,

765
01:05:36,020 --> 01:05:44,540
we're not engaging really substantially with the constituents, but it's increasing.

766
01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:51,760
And there is increasing numbers of constituents that do want to reach out in here from us.

767
01:05:51,760 --> 01:06:00,620
So I'm looking for a product whether it's Indigov or another one that helps us to be able

768
01:06:00,620 --> 01:06:09,060
to maintain that communications to personalize it in some ways and also to reach out

769
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:20,460
to those that geographically or demographically want to connect with us through email communication

770
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:28,370
or through town halls or through coffee engagements and talk about issues. So I'm looking for

771
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:37,560
a recommendation, a few recommendations so that then we can have a more robust policy discussion

772
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:50,320
on which one fits our needs best. I'm in a place where I want the communications division

773
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:59,560
to be able to have some guidelines around that and that we as elected officials have some

774
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:05,620
guidelines around our ethics around it as well. And so looking for the framework on that.

775
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:08,800
Yeah, I think that's a nice place, a nice transition point.

776
01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:12,620
You know, if you're going to do it and really any of that is the only tool on this list that

777
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,200
isn't like an opt-in situation, right? So that is the one that is actually

778
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:26,940
actively trying to bring in data for you to use, and I think that the next step really

779
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:31,360
is to say, like, what's the policy around this? I mean, we can do the technology evaluation,

780
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:36,420
we can do that, but I think you all have to develop some form of consensus. This is, of

781
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:43,280
course, the budget meeting. As Allison said, City Manager has said, we'll figure that part

782
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,180
of it out. I mean, there's certainly ways to do that. But maybe your next step on this

783
01:07:48,180 --> 01:07:52,340
is really to think about what is a policy look around it. Clearly we're in an election season,

784
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:57,020
like this doesn't seem like it wants to be an election focus tool. But then that's like,

785
01:07:57,020 --> 01:08:00,080
what is your self governance when someone goes outside the policy?

786
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:08,500
Yeah, exactly. What's your self governance in order to do that and probably rules a procedure,

787
01:08:09,740 --> 01:08:18,160
councilor, kind of conversation as well as something you'd want to probably walk into that type of

788
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,600
The tool sounds like it could be a fit, but just we all know there's something we'll come

789
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,280
up here that's problematic and we just want to be ahead of that before we get.

790
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:28,320
Council Member Keen.

791
01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:31,620
Again, I appreciate trying to shut this down in this supplemental budget discussion, but

792
01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:32,360
I'll add one thing.

793
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:36,120
I hear the discussion between the tool side of it versus the policy.

794
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,840
I also think there is a style side of this.

795
01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:43,140
What is an elected officials job and someone to do it one way and some do it a different

796
01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:43,680
way?

797
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,440
Some view it is their responsibility to communicate everywhere.

798
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,140
To me, I'm always trying to direct them towards the communication screw.

799
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,740
And the communications I do is one to one.

800
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,400
I don't try to do it last.

801
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:02,100
So I think there's a style part of this too that I have nerd from all my peers.

802
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,760
I don't plan to throw myself into this.

803
01:09:04,820 --> 01:09:09,360
Although clearly there's other of my peers that do approach their job.

804
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:17,160
And I think it is a elected official style discussion, maybe it floats toward the age differences, too.

805
01:09:17,780 --> 01:09:20,380
But in the newer people, the social media stuff is big.

806
01:09:20,740 --> 01:09:23,840
This is not social media. This is direct marketing tools.

807
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:26,480
And I think that's different than social media.

808
01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:29,700
I also remember I think you and I are on the same age groups.

809
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,620
I don't know that it's age.

810
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,020
Any more on this?

811
01:09:37,020 --> 01:09:41,020
So a good discussion to start, let's we'll see more on it.

812
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,940
And we don't need to spend a lot of time here on Polco.

813
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:45,960
You all know what that is.

814
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:47,580
It's really anchors in our community survey.

815
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,300
You're going to be seeing that here this fall.

816
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,160
But it's also our other, you know, serving platform that we use.

817
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:55,360
And again, tools can direct you to that, et cetera.

818
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,560
But we have done going in relationship with Polco, principally.

819
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:21,760
For our community survey, elected official budget funding. I just wanted to kind of talk through that. You all requested, you know, this topic to, to be on the agenda here. Certainly, your travel and training with both the Mayor and Council's information here rolled forward. Business meals. That's, again, money have available.

820
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:26,760
So, Mayor's initiative is a larger number here at 36,000, that's something that, you know,

821
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,100
Mayor's office has the ability to sort of provide us discretionary investment opportunities

822
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:34,960
for Mayor's, norton, if you want to learn more about that, can tell you what she's done

823
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,460
with that in the past.

824
01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:43,240
From a staffing perspective, there's one FTE assigned to the Mayor's executive assistant, and

825
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:48,780
then Temp Salaries, which traditionally supported an intern for the Mayor's office.

826
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:55,000
So with that, you do have the general wage adjustments applied here and it's a popular

827
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:01,440
printinotopic for you all to think about, but just wanted to kind of anchor you in some

828
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,880
of these things and there's sort of the amounts and then there's the how and what types

829
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,840
the services are provided within those amounts as well that you may want to talk about.

830
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:19,480
Well, I'll start. And this has nothing to do with the current mayor's initiatives. I have no

831
01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:29,620
questions that they're all valuable initiatives. And I know a lot of them are very important to our

832
01:11:29,620 --> 01:11:43,700
community. My question is more from a policy standpoint as far as, so the mayor has a $36,000

833
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:56,460
budget line that actually the mayor can use at their discretion where the council, if we

834
01:11:56,460 --> 01:12:01,700
have an initiative, and I know Council Member Miller had one at our last

835
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:05,660
Council meeting, Council Member Palmer has had some in the past.

836
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:12,020
We have to get approval on all of those, and so I guess my question is what is

837
01:12:12,020 --> 01:12:15,160
the oversight to Mayor's initiatives?

838
01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:23,540
Councillor Mayer-Sanissia, I think you all are aware that we start current mayor is very,

839
01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:28,580
very high in responsibility, and so all of the financial policies still apply to that.

840
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,060
And there's also the public purpose doctor in that applies.

841
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,940
So if there's, for example, an expense that's related to something that needs to go through

842
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:40,900
microcontract process or something of that nature, we review those things.

843
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:46,380
There's multiple sort of checkpoints through facilities, but facilities.

844
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,040
Well, not the finance word.

845
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:48,800
Finance.

846
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Effort there.

847
01:12:51,460 --> 01:12:53,440
So those types of things are important.

848
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,680
Also you all have access to be able to bring forward ideas

849
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,560
for we do carry a million dollars in contingency each year

850
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,620
that's already built into the baseline of the tax levies

851
01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:08,180
that has been utilized either by coming forward

852
01:13:08,180 --> 01:13:10,180
with city council requests, with staff requests,

853
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,440
or sometimes there has been some costs related

854
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:13,860
to mayoral requests.

855
01:13:14,260 --> 01:13:15,540
If there needed to be a match for a grant

856
01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:17,680
or something of that nature, that's been much greater.

857
01:13:18,580 --> 01:13:24,100
So, there's not oversight in the sense of it coming to the city council beyond the budgeted

858
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:24,360
amount.

859
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,540
So, budgeted amount of $36,000 needs to meet the financial policies in the public purpose

860
01:13:29,540 --> 01:13:29,940
doctrine.

861
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:35,880
Just like if there was $36,000 budgeted for communications outreach or something of that

862
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:36,340
nature.

863
01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:37,860
Mayor.

864
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,420
And I all of the expenses that come that we use in our office go through, we fill out all

865
01:13:44,420 --> 01:13:54,400
paperwork, they go for signage, they go to finance, and there, you can, you have access to them at every meeting that they show up on the finance report.

866
01:13:55,340 --> 01:13:58,560
Could you do that differently? That would be, I mean, that's really.

867
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:13,680
So then I know that it has come up at this table on potential staffing for council, council members, whether that's a halftime FTE or

868
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:20,920
or part of the current staff support that falls under the mayor's budget.

869
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Can you talk a little bit about that options in that area?

870
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,220
But sure, council president, council members, this has adjusted over the years.

871
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,460
So before my time, there actually was a mayor and council budget all combined into one budget.

872
01:14:37,620 --> 01:14:41,680
And so I'm not exactly sure how that worked, but my understanding is that there was a fair amount

873
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:46,720
support for Mayor Brady. Of course, much of this was before like the internet, it's social

874
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:51,660
media and things of that nature. So I think there's room for conversation about having

875
01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:57,980
there be mutual support, especially kind of goes back to some of the prior discussion

876
01:14:57,980 --> 01:14:59,960
and if there's a policy.

877
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:25,680
Let's see discussion around communication and engagement. Like there may be more capacity there to be able to do some of that, like scheduling rooms, scheduling meetings, things that that nature. I don't think it's, you know, everybody gets office support, but if you, if it's if there's some parameters within that, I think there's probably some capacity and I think that's also a conversation amongst yourself if you're looking at adding an additional person, then you would need to be looking at doing that now.

878
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:53,580
I think it could be healthy to have that person report to administration, which it did in the past, especially from the perspective of like the labor unit that it's in, things of that nature, not for day-to-day activity, but just for making sure that if there is support for eight different people that we're following, the council rules are procedure and code of conduct, things of that nature, and I think we've talked in the past about that there would be additional capacity within communications and engagement and personnel there.

879
01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:59,820
if you have some of that agreement on what does the policy look like for having best practices

880
01:15:59,820 --> 01:16:04,540
for elected official communications and engagement married with what is the best practice

881
01:16:04,540 --> 01:16:10,540
for strategically communicating and not deluding your message as a whole. So I think there's room

882
01:16:10,540 --> 01:16:14,280
to have that conversation and it's really the pleasure of the elected buddy.

883
01:16:16,450 --> 01:16:16,990
Other thoughts?

884
01:16:18,270 --> 01:16:23,730
Councilmember Miller? Sure. I mean, I don't necessarily think that the next step is to add

885
01:16:23,730 --> 01:16:28,930
a half-time FTE for the council, but I would be in favor and I've talked to the council

886
01:16:28,930 --> 01:16:35,290
President Schubering as well about feeling a limitation of staff support, having to go

887
01:16:35,290 --> 01:16:40,470
through a rules and procedures process where we're not asking for more than 30 minutes of staff

888
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:46,790
time for any single question. And I do feel like having some support for communications initiatives

889
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:51,890
that can be filtered through a general communication strategy would be helpful for doing outreach

890
01:16:51,890 --> 01:16:54,810
around specific areas, geographic town halls.

891
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:57,650
I see them, the mayor are operating quite effectively

892
01:16:57,650 --> 01:16:58,790
with their town hall initiatives.

893
01:16:59,590 --> 01:17:02,350
And at the same time, feel a slight disconnect

894
01:17:02,350 --> 01:17:04,990
in some of the, like, when it, from the public,

895
01:17:04,990 --> 01:17:06,470
when is the mayor leading an initiative,

896
01:17:06,610 --> 01:17:07,350
where is it Council?

897
01:17:07,810 --> 01:17:08,710
How do we work together?

898
01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:11,910
And I think some of the staffing that we see here

899
01:17:12,890 --> 01:17:14,950
kind of sets that up to be the way it is

900
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:16,490
that the mayor has additional support.

901
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:18,310
And yet, the community isn't always

902
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:20,910
understand that the Council is the voting body.

903
01:17:20,910 --> 01:17:28,090
So I wonder how we can begin to better indicate and and build those in from a collaborative place even in the budget

904
01:17:28,090 --> 01:17:34,730
So I don't have a prescribed solution to this, but I would support more conversation on it

905
01:17:34,730 --> 01:17:37,290
And I think just to follow up on that

906
01:17:37,290 --> 01:17:42,370
I think that given that we will have a new mayor in 2027

907
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:46,970
I think it's the time to have that discussion and to look at

908
01:17:46,970 --> 01:18:09,670
You know, each one of these line items, I mean travel and training, you know, there's 16 in the mayor, budget and we don't know if the next mayor is going to be as international and as a spokesperson as our current mayor and I also, I'm not finished mayor.

909
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:23,800
And I do think the mayor's initiatives, I think, bringing that into Council consideration, I think, is important.

910
01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:38,680
I do think also when it comes to partnership, the mayor and the city council are partners, I think the looking at what was a mayor city council budget,

911
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:46,760
Maybe an option that we should we should have further discussion on as well so that it's it's one budget and it's not

912
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:48,580
Not separated

913
01:18:49,260 --> 01:18:51,880
This way so Mayor Norton. Thank you

914
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:57,900
I just want to be really clear because the community gets off on this and gets very confused none of my travel

915
01:18:58,780 --> 01:19:05,140
Internationally has been has none of the cities budget has been used. I've used my personal funds for all international travel

916
01:19:05,140 --> 01:19:06,340
Just what that on my

917
01:19:06,340 --> 01:19:07,420
Thank you.

918
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:08,940
Also, my member, Pomer.

919
01:19:11,300 --> 01:19:13,460
Well, I appreciate what the Mayor has done it.

920
01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:16,560
And I think if you're going to change anything, I would talk to the Mayor if she's a

921
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,700
one that sat there for eight years and has done it.

922
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:24,220
And maybe she has some suggestions that she can give to us to the administration.

923
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:29,320
Because I don't know her positions at what she's doing.

924
01:19:29,620 --> 01:19:34,380
But her travel and her training has been very good for Rochester and very up front when

925
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:42,180
Rochester, so her budget is different than ours, but there's a reason for that, and she is the mayor, or it is the mayor's position.

926
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:50,420
I'll just speak to the three percent. I am not in favor of a raise, and I don't think that's necessary for us.

927
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:54,130
Are there a discussion?

928
01:19:55,470 --> 01:19:59,910
I think that's a great idea, Councilmember Palmer.

929
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,000
As far as we want to hear, the mayor's thoughts on this.

930
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,000
So why don't I further discuss?

931
01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:11,100
Could be a carryover to the next meeting. I mean, we have 90 minutes for our next study session.

932
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,840
We could, you know, bring this slide back. If you have some time between now and then,

933
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,000
to collect some thoughts on these issues, but I'm certainly happy to, happy to do that.

934
01:20:21,940 --> 01:20:27,120
Just a quick, I'm not going to go through this point by point, but as you know, in the council,

935
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:32,160
asked about process and this also kind of walks into our engagement strategies,

936
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,880
drone, key important and big policy issues.

937
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:41,680
So the council asked about how can we engage better with the budget for our next two year budget.

938
01:20:42,660 --> 01:20:44,240
We also have strategic planning.

939
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:48,360
So we do anchor strategic planning efforts every year.

940
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:54,120
And so I think this process that we're laying out really does provide the opportunity to

941
01:20:54,120 --> 01:21:02,640
to walk this strategic planning process with the budget process with higher levels of engagement targeted out in the community meetings.

942
01:21:03,380 --> 01:21:08,680
We can consider some of your fifth Monday types of meetings, you know, for town hall budget feedback.

943
01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:21,600
So, Deputy Administrator Steinhauser is together a great request for proposals for us to be out, getting proposals on potential consultants that can help us through the process.

944
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,700
They typically have some, you know, things that they bring to the table, but just say that

945
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:30,540
there's a organizational and employee input piece of this.

946
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:35,700
There's high touch and high engagement with community partners and board and commission members.

947
01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:37,880
Similar to what we've done in the past.

948
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,480
Individual meetings with mayor and council members.

949
01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:45,300
Community outreach and so, you know, we'll continue to refine the process as we move along.

950
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,640
But you all, in next, you know, late this year, into early next year.

951
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:58,500
ahead of the budget process so your policy priorities can be reflected in it, we'll have the opportunity to update your strategic priority.

952
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:04,980
So again, we'll be out with an RFP on that soon. Bring the results of that back to the City Council for consideration.

953
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:11,780
So you have the opportunity to select a team that makes sense to support your process.

954
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:19,000
And again, all the great similar budget stuff that you all know of in the cadence and, you know, I'm not going to go through the calendar for you all on that.

955
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,180
But any questions on strategic planning, action planning,

956
01:22:22,460 --> 01:22:23,580
budget for next year?

957
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:24,960
Good.

958
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:31,080
OK, this a few slides here are kind of bundled together.

959
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:33,520
So I'm going to go through a handful of these fairly quickly.

960
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,180
So we have summer festivals.

961
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,140
We just wanted to lay out what we're spending

962
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,580
in sort of this community experience space.

963
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,800
I know there's been a lot of active council conversations

964
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,340
here, but you can see what we've done for fourth

965
01:22:44,340 --> 01:22:46,680
of July, celebration of the city, the level of investment

966
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:47,420
we've made.

967
01:22:47,420 --> 01:22:51,300
We did a little bit differently this last year with the way we did fourth-fest, et cetera.

968
01:22:52,620 --> 01:22:56,360
So these are the budget amounts we have available if we want to do any rethinking monetarily.

969
01:22:56,580 --> 01:23:07,680
That's one way, but then I think also we're proposing that we spend some time process-wise thinking about how we might want to do these next year as well and you have Riverside Forward here.

970
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,760
I do just want to point out $36,000 here is for fireworks. It's not for a fourth-fest.

971
01:23:12,380 --> 01:23:14,580
That's correct. I'm sorry I'm about that.

972
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:36,740
So just some some are festival highlights here just again I'm not going to go to the council member Miller and just a point of clarification. Celebration of the city is Rochester Fest. Correct and it has always been carried in the budget of celebration of the city and at some point in history Rochester the Rochester Fest organization is the organization and 501c3 that's been operating that.

973
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,160
So again, some of the highlights of things that we've done with Riverside and Forward

974
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,800
Concerts and, you know, the net investments in there.

975
01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:52,240
Previously you talked about some destination marketing, focused efforts as you had conversations

976
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:53,440
around the chat to a theater.

977
01:23:54,220 --> 01:24:00,760
There was some additional conversation about a new destination, marketing initiative, very normal

978
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,740
for a group like experience Rochester to have a very active destination marketing presence.

979
01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:12,920
We put a lot of our lodging tax revenue into the operations of the Civic Center and Rochester

980
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:18,840
sports, but there's sort of this traditional convention of visitor's bureau activity that

981
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,420
you want to think about as well.

982
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:27,380
There was a requested $300,000 investment to focus on more active festivals and events and

983
01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:32,560
visitor information center and continuing with the certified tourism ambassador program and

984
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:38,960
quarters and just other things that are trying to support the tourism strategy that experience

985
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:43,180
Rochester is trying to deliver on and they've done a nice job of going through their

986
01:24:43,180 --> 01:24:49,100
most recent tourism planning effort or outreach effort there.

987
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:56,060
From a financial perspective on lodging tax just walking you through this so we tend to

988
01:24:56,060 --> 01:24:59,820
think about it in a few areas. Again, just overall anchor.

989
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:12,060
Permittment for experienced Rochester running the in contracting with vendors for the operations of the Civic Center. Again, we have about 600,000 and it also goes to Rochester Sports.

990
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:29,920
We try to retain the residual for capital investment because we have substantial capital needs there. And you've seen those in the past, but they're very material. And then our debt service, which we are on a trajectory, as we talked at a previous meeting toward satisfying.

991
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:36,160
that in early 2030s. When we do that, we can redirect that into future capital investments within

992
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:41,600
the Civic Center. But until now, I mean, that's really supporting the previous expansion.

993
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,700
So, I want you to see that we're on a forecast to trend upward in this area. This does reflect

994
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:53,720
the additional $300,000 that, you know, could be done. If, you know, from policy perspective,

995
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:59,600
you so desired, but just wanted to give you sort of a better connection and break it out of

996
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,280
and the long policy issue as you all requested previously.

997
01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:04,960
So with that, I'm going to just advance.

998
01:26:06,260 --> 01:26:07,560
So Mr. Parrish, just so I'm clear.

999
01:26:07,900 --> 01:26:11,700
So the 300,000 dollars, the destination marketing,

1000
01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:17,920
is that in the operations of the Chattoe piece,

1001
01:26:17,980 --> 01:26:20,220
that's the 300,000 that we're talking about.

1002
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:21,700
That's a, or is this a separate one?

1003
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,560
It's both.

1004
01:26:22,780 --> 01:26:23,800
There is a component.

1005
01:26:24,220 --> 01:26:26,060
So if you're talking about daily activation,

1006
01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:29,040
there's a component about the downtown Welcome Center,

1007
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:36,400
where and the festival coordinator that would also be working on the Chateau. So there's a mix of that, and I believe.

1008
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:46,560
So when we have our discussion on September 9th on the Chateau, these three positions,

1009
01:26:46,580 --> 01:26:51,900
are these two positions in this downtown welcome center? We'll be a part of that.

1010
01:26:51,900 --> 01:26:57,000
I think maybe. Operations. Well, is that correct? Just if you look at this slide and correct me,

1011
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,340
I'm wrong here, but there's the Chattoe piece and how do you activate the Chattoe and work with that?

1012
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:05,920
And I think the Chattoe events manager is wrapped up in the, you know, the approach overall.

1013
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,880
The 200 whatever thousand that's needed to do that.

1014
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,620
The second two items here are really focused in that $300,000 additional enhancement.

1015
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,080
So if you can break these, these out in those two areas.

1016
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:24,020
Item one I think walks with Chattoe, two and three really walk with this enhanced $300,000 investment

1017
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:25,900
and activation that's talked about more here.

1018
01:27:25,900 --> 01:27:28,440
I think it's a little bit more nuanced than that, but we will clear.

1019
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,900
Yes, I think we're both kind of teases out.

1020
01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:38,540
Yeah, so first of all, I think we will provide more information to this and

1021
01:27:38,540 --> 01:27:42,400
an upcoming reports and recommendations on a city council meeting.

1022
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:49,420
But I do think they are somewhat co-mingled in using a percentage of

1023
01:27:49,420 --> 01:27:53,940
that 300,000 focusing on specifically the activation and potentially staffing

1024
01:27:53,940 --> 01:28:02,240
of the Chateau as well as the visitor centers, those sorts of things, and then a smaller portion

1025
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:08,420
of that 300,000 focused on partnering with the community to activate the Chateau.

1026
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:12,780
So if, for example, we were to say, don't do anything on the Chateau, but do these other

1027
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:15,600
things, I think it would be a very different number.

1028
01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:21,300
So they are sort of co-mingled in that 300,000, and we'll work to provide more information

1029
01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:22,180
on that.

1030
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,160
Thank you.

1031
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:28,740
And there's an additional investment beyond the 300,000 that anchors it in.

1032
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:33,300
Okay, so then just thinking about this,

1033
01:28:33,540 --> 01:28:38,180
we have a variety of, you know, we talked about how we're delivering public music activities,

1034
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,200
how we're delivering, you know, the Chateau,

1035
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,140
destination marketing, other festival items.

1036
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,720
As part of our ongoing evaluations, we have one forecasted for public safety.

1037
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:57,420
We're working on an RFP in that space that you all will see in September and so that's another conversation.

1038
01:28:58,540 --> 01:29:02,360
But we also are proposing to really have one that's anchored in community experience.

1039
01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:11,040
So thinking about how we do that for 2027 and bring back some recommendations on how some of these additional items work.

1040
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:16,460
Because again, a lot of work in the tourism space that's happened, parks continues to do their master planning.

1041
01:29:16,460 --> 01:29:21,340
And we have a lot of things in a library space that are ongoing, but this really would focus

1042
01:29:21,340 --> 01:29:26,480
in some of our, we'll caught third-party community experience providers and really just

1043
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:31,640
seeing like, are those in alignment, is there need to be some shifting to optimize those existing

1044
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:36,380
investments and thinking about arts and culture and other elements of community experience?

1045
01:29:36,940 --> 01:29:42,580
So with that, before I move on to the next last two pieces of the conversation, just any

1046
01:29:42,580 --> 01:29:46,460
questions you have in the previous slides that you had seen in the community.

1047
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:47,500
Councilmember Miller.

1048
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,480
I do have a question because it comes up every summer, the idea of like how Rochester

1049
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:56,660
Fest is evolving, how the city's role in guiding that is, what is the length, what is

1050
01:29:56,660 --> 01:29:57,280
location.

1051
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,980
And obviously Thursday's downtown is growing quite a bit.

1052
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,140
But over the years as well, and just curious where and how the city and us have a conversation about

1053
01:30:08,140 --> 01:30:14,520
the right level of programming, working with event organizers to make sure that it's, you know,

1054
01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:19,160
inefficient event that's while using these resources, as well as well attended as relevant

1055
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:27,120
is not competing with two events in the downtown space and is basically moving forward to the modern

1056
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,600
time as a relative that draws people across the community in region.

1057
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:38,340
I think that's part of what we're trying to get to and looking at the broader system.

1058
01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:44,140
I would just say generally we've been providing a specific level of support and Rochester

1059
01:30:44,140 --> 01:30:49,800
Fest as the entity that's been operating has programmatic ability to be able if they feel

1060
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,600
confident that they could pull that off we just don't give them more money.

1061
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,840
So they have a fixed amount that they're receiving and I think that that would be a healthy

1062
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,520
conversation that we could either have going into the two-year budget and having some of this

1063
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,500
information might be helpful because there are any number of groups that maybe would be

1064
01:31:05,500 --> 01:31:09,780
interested in partnering together or not partnering together which also then becomes the challenge.

1065
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:17,040
If there's individual visions then how does the budget process like play into maybe marrying those

1066
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,000
up a little bit whether that's through reducing funding for one or the other is a little bit challenging

1067
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:27,360
And that's one of my concerns too, looking at the possibility of a festival coordinator

1068
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:32,220
in the presence of RDA running a series of downtown programmatic events, plus

1069
01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:37,520
Rochester Fest, how we're making sure from a budget process, those are all happening in collaboration

1070
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:44,460
and partnership and not in a competitive way for a potential audience for a downtown

1071
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:47,440
some repostable when those happen in similar times,

1072
01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:52,760
similar locations, and I'm just struggling a little bit

1073
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,200
to understand how we best manage that, particularly

1074
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,320
in light of a potential opportunity to invest funding

1075
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,280
from the Logging Tax to create a festival department

1076
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,580
with an experienced Rochester.

1077
01:32:07,730 --> 01:32:11,910
I think it can be part of this whole idea around the evaluation.

1078
01:32:12,610 --> 01:32:14,790
Could also try to assess impact, right?

1079
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:19,990
I mean, I think, you know, this is what we're doing, but part of that will include recommendations for enhanced impact.

1080
01:32:20,130 --> 01:32:21,810
And these are all very challenging conversations.

1081
01:32:22,010 --> 01:32:25,430
People get used to sort of how you deliver these things in the past.

1082
01:32:27,310 --> 01:32:32,230
So, you know, receiving list of recommendations on how you might optimize and enhance some of these investments.

1083
01:32:32,370 --> 01:32:38,970
And what kind of impact and putting numbers in front of people in terms of attendance and all that will certainly be part of the evaluation.

1084
01:32:40,410 --> 01:32:41,210
Council Member Palmer.

1085
01:32:41,210 --> 01:32:46,930
going off with Mr. Miller's kind of talking about is the celebration of the city seems like we've

1086
01:32:46,930 --> 01:32:51,570
increased it, increased it. I'm not particularly sure that we need to keep doing that. I don't

1087
01:32:51,570 --> 01:32:56,810
know if it started out as a this good it get going and see if it could run on its own, but I believe

1088
01:32:56,810 --> 01:33:02,390
that dollar amount you're showing is only for a cash outlay. It does not include our employee time that

1089
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:07,810
from parks increase and is that correct? It's sort of correct. There are some billbacks that they do

1090
01:33:07,810 --> 01:33:13,950
So there is, like, when we clean up the streets around there for the parade, they don't pay for that because there's

1091
01:33:13,950 --> 01:33:18,330
tangential value to having streets we think, things of that nature, but

1092
01:33:18,330 --> 01:33:23,770
like many other event permits, they are paying for some direct services, but this has been going on for quite some time.

1093
01:33:23,870 --> 01:33:28,790
So there are other services that are likely going in kind to be able to

1094
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:34,070
support what the celebration of a city that has been operated by Rochester Fest.

1095
01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:41,550
But I would say they do reimburse for the lion share of the costs, but there is some

1096
01:33:41,550 --> 01:33:45,530
immeasurable amount of costs for parks and public works that does not get reimbursed

1097
01:33:45,530 --> 01:33:45,990
easily.

1098
01:33:46,570 --> 01:33:48,490
And your 4th of July is only for the fireworks.

1099
01:33:48,890 --> 01:33:52,990
What would it take for us to do an inexperienced Rochester event that they had prior to that?

1100
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:59,870
So you are still carrying in this budget the $20,000 that was slated to be removed in the

1101
01:33:59,870 --> 01:34:04,830
2026 budget from public music so that could go over to them and then you could have a conversation

1102
01:34:04,830 --> 01:34:08,990
also about lodging tax and whether or not that might be able to support it. I think the policy

1103
01:34:08,990 --> 01:34:15,210
question is, would you like to have an entity like experience Rochester operate that or not and

1104
01:34:15,210 --> 01:34:19,470
I don't know what the pleasure of the city council is, perhaps that could be additional conversation

1105
01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:21,270
at your next study session.

1106
01:34:24,190 --> 01:34:26,990
I believe the cost this year was close to $40,000. Now granted,

1107
01:34:26,990 --> 01:34:36,250
We were in the 250th celebration, so perhaps that would, you know, you would scale some of that back a little bit, um, but that was a proximate cost that was estimated.

1108
01:34:36,650 --> 01:34:38,790
Thank you. Council member Miller.

1109
01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:47,050
I'd be in favor of that. I think additional discussion about the interim 2027 year and then a fuller evaluation of community impact.

1110
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:51,390
It could be a thoughtful process to be able to step into a different model.

1111
01:34:52,610 --> 01:34:56,550
build in partnerships, understand how the community would receive these. I'll just

1112
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:59,970
also say I would love to see the fireworks move down to Cascade Lake once Link is open.

1113
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Then we have much greater access. Pitch the lacrosse field is the point to shoot them, but I do

1114
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,900
want us to figure out how to evolve and make sure that all of our community and investment

1115
01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:17,160
and festivals and public events continue to be relevant to the diverse cross section of our community.

1116
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,420
And evolve as our community grows.

1117
01:35:21,580 --> 01:35:26,520
You're on up. There's no more questions in this space. I think the remaining slides can forward to the next

1118
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:27,840
That's okay.

1119
01:35:28,060 --> 01:35:28,520
All right.

1120
01:35:29,620 --> 01:35:30,320
Thank you.

1121
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,860
Can I just ask if there's other anything else we need to discuss at the next, that would

1122
01:35:34,860 --> 01:35:36,320
also be helpful to them now.

1123
01:35:37,980 --> 01:35:42,800
If we want to make an amendment to the supplementary budget, how do we do that?

1124
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,480
It would be helpful to have that information now, especially if it's increased in the tax

1125
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,820
levied because that's going to be coming on September 25th.

1126
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:55,620
I anticipate that I will be making about a $100,000 ask for the any path home initiative

1127
01:35:55,620 --> 01:36:02,700
As we look at future programmatic efforts, it or possible staffing of a community engagement

1128
01:36:03,540 --> 01:36:09,420
professional for the neighborhoods surrounding our homeless shelter network.

1129
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,840
So, I would like to have that discussion at the next meeting.

1130
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:15,120
We can show what the implications of that might be for us.

1131
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:15,700
That would be great.

1132
01:36:15,980 --> 01:36:16,960
Thank you.

1133
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:18,140
Come to member key.

1134
01:36:18,420 --> 01:36:18,640
Yes.

1135
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,280
Just on the overall.

1136
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,380
You asked for an additional feedback on the twenty-two.

1137
01:36:23,380 --> 01:36:28,000
Early on slide seven government services growing in my view I was trying to look at the overall

1138
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:34,220
seven year view and we're at about six percent a year average which is above the growth of

1139
01:36:34,220 --> 01:36:41,320
Rochester and also like above inflation but we've also added a bunch of services like 311 and most

1140
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:46,680
of all of those things have been council approved so I'm watching thing in is it reasonable but

1141
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:52,520
but I'm also watching on page 12 when you talk the tax capacity below 50 percent. I just have this

1142
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:57,800
had feeling that that is so overwhelmingly supported by these increase in property values that

1143
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:05,780
have happened over that same seven year list that if we ran into an economic struggle where

1144
01:37:05,780 --> 01:37:11,680
things stabilize or went down 10%. I mean, I think we're at a point where I think we'd really

1145
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:16,480
struggle as a city to try to figure out how to absorb those because right now we've been sort

1146
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:22,120
of getting by on some of the city growth. The services that we, I mean, we've also had voters approved

1147
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,040
but 2% increase for the parks for our friend.

1148
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:27,380
So most of the things like looking at that

1149
01:37:27,380 --> 01:37:28,980
as of the bigger seven-year picture,

1150
01:37:29,420 --> 01:37:33,680
but I really do get concerned when I see that 8% twice

1151
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,440
in the next five years and saying like,

1152
01:37:35,740 --> 01:37:38,980
how can we defend that as public services going up?

1153
01:37:39,940 --> 01:37:41,060
Is it, you know, I know there's things

1154
01:37:41,060 --> 01:37:42,160
with benefits and these other things,

1155
01:37:42,340 --> 01:37:43,900
but I think some of those things we have to find

1156
01:37:43,900 --> 01:37:46,280
a way to absorb which we have in the last couple of years.

1157
01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:48,080
We've had twice in the last couple of years

1158
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,400
where we projected a higher levy increase

1159
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:55,980
and when we got back to. So that was good to see. The other point I'll make, and this is

1160
01:37:55,980 --> 01:38:00,780
budget discussion, but budget discussion, send us in different directions. But I mean, I really

1161
01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:06,040
do appreciate that our major capital projects are staying pretty well within bounds. We have

1162
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:10,840
an all kinds of trouble with closed roads net, but we're not falling down or getting in the way of

1163
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:16,600
mail or getting in the way of other private things. I think that I'm glad to see the attention going

1164
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:22,440
that, but I'm hoping it leads towards a, you know, early 27, 27, mid 27, where streets are

1165
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:28,860
more open and safer than they have been. So, those are my couple, I've got a couple of

1166
01:38:28,860 --> 01:38:34,820
little things here, but just to tie it out as far as I could support the budget, the sub-menge

1167
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:39,340
budget, the way it is. I do want to just stay for people watching this. We really did a two-year,

1168
01:38:39,340 --> 01:38:44,220
we do a two-year budget. So, this is a year of just looking for what's, you know, the nominal changes.

1169
01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:48,900
This isn't a full budget year, I think the people around the table know that, but for anybody

1170
01:38:48,900 --> 01:38:53,420
listening, we're really just looking at what changed year over year, and I appreciate the

1171
01:38:53,420 --> 01:38:58,940
RPU perspective on that and the communication stuff, so that those are my comments and if there's

1172
01:38:58,940 --> 01:38:59,780
any reaction.

1173
01:39:01,380 --> 01:39:02,840
Council Member Palmer.

1174
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,260
Yeah, just to be clear, it's not 2% of the Park River, I remember it's $2 million that

1175
01:39:07,260 --> 01:39:08,040
they get these years.

1176
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:13,100
So just to be clear on that, I'm lonely on slide 11 with the total growth of your estimated

1177
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:17,760
and market values 5.2%, I think that that's reasonable for us to stick to.

1178
01:39:17,860 --> 01:39:23,320
I know that we have some tip funding that's coming off under the full budget, so I like to see

1179
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:27,440
us be at that 5.21. I think that makes sense for people. If you're out of the neighborhood

1180
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:32,560
talking to people affordability is a huge issue, and I think that we can justify a 5.21.

1181
01:39:33,140 --> 01:39:35,940
Is there something specific that you would recommend removing from the budget?

1182
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,600
I'll bring it up next time. I've sent an email already.

1183
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:58,840
And administrators, I'm going to remind us of what Councilmember Palmer's proposing is a reduction of the current percentage that we're looking at by 3.9% what is the number.

1184
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,120
Financial number, that kind of leads. That's in the neighborhood of $300,000.

1185
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,200
That would be $300,000.

1186
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:08,560
$300,000.

1187
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:09,460
$400,000?

1188
01:40:09,460 --> 01:40:10,220
$300,000.

1189
01:40:10,420 --> 01:40:10,880
$300,000.

1190
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:11,440
$300,000?

1191
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:13,260
$300,000.

1192
01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:13,620
$500,000?

1193
01:40:14,060 --> 01:40:14,380
$500,000.

1194
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:17,880
$500,000.

1195
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,760
$500,000.

1196
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,920
is what kind of budget cut would.

1197
01:40:23,980 --> 01:40:25,440
About 400,000.

1198
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:26,320
400,000.

1199
01:40:26,540 --> 01:40:26,860
There we go.

1200
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:27,560
OK.

1201
01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:31,080
We can get you a specific number about what it would look like.

1202
01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:38,300
What the total dollar amount necessary to cut would be to have the levy amount at 5.211.

1203
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:40,120
Okay.

1204
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,520
We'll can show that to you at the next study session.

1205
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:45,380
And hopefully.

1206
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:50,020
And remember, we have to get to agreement on what would those things that would be cut in

1207
01:40:50,020 --> 01:40:54,700
to be able to make it there and we've had and to suggest that there would need to also be

1208
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:58,600
healthy discussion about whether or not there's support for any path home funding.

1209
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:05,400
Cool. And just to be clear, I was asking for that not because I was advocating for it, but I just

1210
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:13,840
wanted to be clear that we would have to find $400,000, which is not including the addition that

1211
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,280
Council member, during is going to propose.

1212
01:41:18,980 --> 01:41:26,620
Any more, may or no, just take, I think the caveat for all of this for the community though

1213
01:41:26,620 --> 01:41:30,360
is that we don't know exactly what cost of living increases are going to be.

1214
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:36,620
We don't, we don't exactly know what, what the bill will be at the end when the county

1215
01:41:36,620 --> 01:41:40,180
rolls out the amount that we're going to have to spend.

1216
01:41:40,180 --> 01:41:43,780
So this is your best professional guest

1217
01:41:43,780 --> 01:41:45,900
and months as to where that will take up

1218
01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:48,380
where these numbers are going to take us.

1219
01:41:48,460 --> 01:41:48,680
Correct.

1220
01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:51,580
We typically do not get the final estimated market value

1221
01:41:51,580 --> 01:41:54,680
from the county until after you adopted your preliminary

1222
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,080
levy and it's at some point in November

1223
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,560
right around the time that they're sending out the tax notices.

1224
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,300
So we every year are trying to get that

1225
01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:05,180
and advanced to understand as their new construction

1226
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:07,500
coming online that will adjust that.

1227
01:42:07,500 --> 01:42:28,420
but Councilmember Keene is correct that a lot of that is being absorbed now what I will say is that there are other communities that don't have growth in assessed value or new construction and some of those communities are at double digit increases year over year in their levied increase and really what you'd be talking about any year if if we started to enter that trend is service reductions.

1228
01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:35,880
Thank you. That's what I want to clarify. I think that's extremely important not to be a labor of the time here, but like if you hear about

1229
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,740
But it's kinds of budget conversations that are happening through the state.

1230
01:42:38,980 --> 01:42:40,400
This is actually pretty remarkable.

1231
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:46,500
I mean, you see, like Minneapolis named Paul, they're coming in at very high projected structural

1232
01:42:46,500 --> 01:42:51,680
deficits in the 30-plus million range and talking about tax-loving increases, you know, much

1233
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:52,640
more material than that.

1234
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:57,640
I think why we're not in that situation is because we've had prudent budgeting in the past

1235
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,040
and you've all been very responsible in the decisions you've made.

1236
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:04,620
So I'm just emphasizing that from our neighbors around here,

1237
01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:06,980
but particularly our neighbors to the north.

1238
01:43:07,660 --> 01:43:08,360
We're doing quite well.

1239
01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:11,920
All right, and thank you.

1240
01:43:12,260 --> 01:43:16,580
And we will move on to Rochester Public Transit.

1241
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,500
My name is Joe Outlook.

1242
01:43:26,060 --> 01:43:27,020
Great to see you.

1243
01:43:30,380 --> 01:43:34,300
Yeah, it's a good way to do this.

1244
01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:39,840
It's a good way to do this.

1245
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:42,600
See if we can have done that 30 seconds.

1246
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:06,680
Oh, which show we're breaking.

1247
01:44:07,500 --> 01:44:08,080
Take it away.

1248
01:44:08,380 --> 01:44:09,200
Good afternoon.

1249
01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:11,920
I'm Rachel Fauge, the Director of Transit in Parking.

1250
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:18,040
So it's been just over six months since I came in January and presented on the financial

1251
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:19,340
status of the transit department.

1252
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:25,480
So just here to give a mid-year update and where we are in our initial plans and where we see

1253
01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:29,860
kind of projections as we move through the rest of this year, next year and the future.

1254
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,020
So today's route.

1255
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,560
We'll be going over a few things.

1256
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,940
One is our financial outlook,

1257
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,380
so we'll be looking at where we were, where we are.

1258
01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:44,920
And how we plan on trust in the cloud.

1259
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,120
Yeah, thank you.

1260
01:44:48,260 --> 01:44:48,700
Got it.

1261
01:44:49,380 --> 01:44:53,000
The pun was not subtle or deep,

1262
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,480
but it was there.

1263
01:44:54,940 --> 01:44:56,560
We'll be reviewing our KPIs.

1264
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,140
We have our partner in via here.

1265
01:44:59,360 --> 01:44:59,960
Nicole, he was soon in the future.

1266
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:13,520
We'll be presenting on kind of view as for casting implants. And then kind of going over our existing in future community collaborations and timelines on what council should expect over the next two years through the transit department.

1267
01:45:15,020 --> 01:45:20,860
So just to level set in a reminder, this work is ongoing. So this is not been.

1268
01:45:20,860 --> 01:45:27,760
We came in January and nothing's happened over the last seven months. We have made many improvements and many changes in the transit department

1269
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:36,860
One was RFP for operations and so that award has been given in that they start next Wednesday, Tuesday, September 1st

1270
01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:47,020
And then I'll additionally as presented in January kind of talked about the biggest cuts that we are able to make are within our CIP projects and so we're going over some of those reductions that we've made

1271
01:45:47,020 --> 01:46:02,220
And then additionally our advertising RFP which I briefly talked about previously, but it's an opportunity for us to generate additional revenue for the transit department as a reminder our only form of revenue is fair and advertising.

1272
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,520
We don't collect any local tax dollars.

1273
01:46:05,980 --> 01:46:09,400
So no tax levier sales tax dollars are utilized within the transit department.

1274
01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:26,720
So for our financial outlook, we came back in January and presented this slide to talk about what we anticipated the impacts to the transit fund would be over the next three years.

1275
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:32,420
And this is due primarily to the fact that MINDOTS required contribution for local share

1276
01:46:32,420 --> 01:46:37,960
it was shifting from 5% to 15%, historically that percentage was 20%.

1277
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:44,020
So just to provide that additional context there, so 2024 and 2025, there was a reduction

1278
01:46:44,020 --> 01:46:47,060
of that local share of dollars to a 5% match.

1279
01:46:48,180 --> 01:46:56,160
And then this year, 2026, 2027, and potentially 2028 that will be 15%, but historically

1280
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:02,220
that match has been 20% and that's what that match is on the capital improvement side consistently.

1281
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:06,480
So there was no reduction in that match requirement for the past few years.

1282
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:10,900
So as we're looking at these numbers, you'll see those also reflected within the data sets

1283
01:47:10,900 --> 01:47:12,860
in the KPIs that you see in our projections.

1284
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:17,840
We anticipate that match going up to 20% in 2029.

1285
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,340
So you'll see that being reflected within the graph as well.

1286
01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:25,940
Oh, I didn't even talk about it.

1287
01:47:25,940 --> 01:47:40,700
So, in January presented that we were sitting at about 5.3 million within the transit fund with an anticipated loss in 2025 at just over half a million dollars, and then a project at loss for 2026 at about 2.4 million.

1288
01:47:41,940 --> 01:47:52,060
And as you'll see, this is our current projection. So in 2025, we actually were able to put around 300,000 dollars into the transit fund for a transit fund to sitting at around 5.6 million right now.

1289
01:47:52,060 --> 01:48:03,300
And for 2026, our anticipated loss is only 0.8 million, and as reflected, that is based on that's based on a reduction in CIP projects.

1290
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:09,500
So we reduced our office remodel project substantially, although that hasn't come forward to council yet.

1291
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:14,580
We did slim back even with the proposed plans that we're working on right now to bring to council in the future.

1292
01:48:14,580 --> 01:48:29,320
But additionally, we reduced any fleet enhancements, so we're only in the business of doing replacement fleet right now and not expansion fleet and that it did allow us to have a reduction in this dollar amount.

1293
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:38,880
And the transfer development plan as presented on last Monday is now being covered by our operator via, so we are able to cut that expense as well.

1294
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:55,900
So a really great reduction in the projected loss for 2026, but as indicated we're still not we're generating enough revenue to cover that 15% and cover our capital right now, but we are working on a projection for that.

1295
01:48:56,260 --> 01:48:57,000
Mayor Norton.

1296
01:48:58,340 --> 01:49:07,420
So the 2028 the 2.78 is that with a 20% assumption or is that still showing the 15 that's the 15, but if you have.

1297
01:49:07,420 --> 01:49:10,520
read through the tip in this, the tip,

1298
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,340
row cog tip that's out for public review right now.

1299
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,940
Min. has awarded us replacement vehicles,

1300
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,440
a substantial amount hit in 2027 and 2028.

1301
01:49:20,940 --> 01:49:24,020
And so those are those big hits that you see happening there.

1302
01:49:24,020 --> 01:49:26,280
And I can go into deeper if anybody has any questions

1303
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:27,260
and what those numbers are,

1304
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,500
but or class are size of those vehicles.

1305
01:49:29,980 --> 01:49:32,060
But that's what you see primarily reflected there.

1306
01:49:32,060 --> 01:49:33,360
You'll see the loss of operating,

1307
01:49:33,620 --> 01:49:35,740
but additionally the large expense

1308
01:49:35,740 --> 01:49:40,260
of those replacement vehicles, which are necessary to run a transit system.

1309
01:49:40,540 --> 01:49:43,840
Comfort member Palmer. Why are you excluding the link BRK?

1310
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:49,440
That's a great question and primarily because as of right now, beyond the startup grant, the

1311
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:54,660
pilot grant that we've received for, for, link we don't have secured funding from midnight

1312
01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:59,960
for operations after that grant is. So that's for three years. And so we didn't want that to,

1313
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:19,920
Potentially skew the data in here. Link is primary, it's cover through those hopeful $min dot dollars after that, but we don't have those secured and so we didn't want to. If we put that in here, you would see dramatic losses because we're only showing what we know and we don't know that grant is locked in yet.

1314
01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:27,280
Well, there's a causal person who likes to say that hope was not a plan, so I would like to see that included.

1315
01:50:27,820 --> 01:50:33,340
We can provide those updated numbers, but they do skew where we're living right now in this

1316
01:50:33,340 --> 01:50:34,080
data set.

1317
01:50:34,380 --> 01:50:36,840
And so we just wanted to do a server providing what we know.

1318
01:50:37,740 --> 01:50:41,020
We do anticipate support from from M in dad.

1319
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,360
But we don't that's not a known because we don't receive those operating dollars until the year,

1320
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:50,920
like until I just like brought it up to Council last week until those are approved.

1321
01:50:53,180 --> 01:50:54,240
Council member Miller.

1322
01:50:54,700 --> 01:50:57,320
And I guess I would just add that legislative priority of ours,

1323
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:02,200
of Minnesota City is sustainable transit funding from the state and so we continue to advocate for those

1324
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:08,040
I serve on the improving local economies committee. We've had some discussion of that and we'll

1325
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:12,160
plan to continue to make sure that hope turns into advocacy turns into plans.

1326
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,800
And we have had significant conversations with Mindut and there are aware that we are actively

1327
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:22,460
working towards wanting to make sure that we have similar consideration for an outstate bus

1328
01:51:22,460 --> 01:51:32,360
traffic transit system as there are funding sources similar to what the grant is for the next three years that are available to all of the BRT system that is not outstate.

1329
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,480
And I just will take a moment to plug that Min. has been incredibly supportive.

1330
01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:47,820
They did provide a pilot grant to support the one month prior to the revenue start date for like actually almost two months prior to the revenue start date as linked to cover some of those operations costs.

1331
01:51:47,820 --> 01:51:51,780
that will hit prior to August 19th.

1332
01:51:51,980 --> 01:51:53,760
So we are really grateful on the partnership,

1333
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:55,260
and they have an incredibly collaborative,

1334
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:56,800
and know that this is an ask.

1335
01:51:57,580 --> 01:51:59,180
And if it's any indication,

1336
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,340
this is probably anecdotal data,

1337
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,960
but linked did receive an entire full page feature

1338
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,280
and the great Minnesota transit plan that

1339
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,860
made out just adopted.

1340
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,880
So it is a highlight of the system,

1341
01:52:12,020 --> 01:52:14,220
and it's a highlight of our city as well.

1342
01:52:14,220 --> 01:52:18,800
Council member Keen. Yeah, I'm going to just follow up and Council member Palmer Sam. I understand

1343
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:25,240
that there is one transit like fund at the end, but I think it would be misleading to try to

1344
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:31,600
reflect BRT in here now, especially, I mean, I actually struggle when I look out in 2829 because that

1345
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:38,240
is a male supported thing so that there probably shouldn't be depending on our metrics. We shouldn't

1346
01:52:38,780 --> 01:52:42,960
be under running it, but the fact that we don't have those federal and state commitments yet,

1347
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,100
It just would make this less valuable for me to try to move through.

1348
01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:52,460
But again, it's jumping off the page here that you are out of funds in 2028.

1349
01:52:52,740 --> 01:52:54,560
I don't know if I'm cutting to the end of it for you.

1350
01:52:55,820 --> 01:52:56,220
Spoiler.

1351
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,220
So, were there any questions?

1352
01:53:01,820 --> 01:53:02,860
Council member Miller.

1353
01:53:02,940 --> 01:53:05,500
Just a point of clarification, because you threw out August 19th.

1354
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,500
That is the plan start date for LinkedIn.

1355
01:53:07,700 --> 01:53:09,840
It's our current plan start date for LinkedIn.

1356
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:14,840
that's what's our agreement with FTA indicates.

1357
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,620
If construction delays happen,

1358
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:19,340
if something were to happen, this definitely something

1359
01:53:19,340 --> 01:53:22,140
that would be effectively communicated to Council on the team.

1360
01:53:22,900 --> 01:53:24,220
Now, the 19th is a Thursday,

1361
01:53:25,180 --> 01:53:27,700
so it's likely that we won't implement a service change on a Thursday.

1362
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,760
So we would likely have links start on a weekend

1363
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:34,660
consistent with how we perform service changes right now in the system.

1364
01:53:37,490 --> 01:53:40,050
And for clarification, when link comes online,

1365
01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:45,930
that will be a service change. So it'll be treated the same way as as our other, but obviously

1366
01:53:45,930 --> 01:53:49,690
much larger and much bigger, but it will be implemented as a service change. So you'll see

1367
01:53:49,690 --> 01:53:54,470
other changes to the fixed road system at the same time. Thank you. Continue.

1368
01:53:56,030 --> 01:54:01,330
So how are you measuring all these things? We have kind of isolated four main key performance

1369
01:54:01,330 --> 01:54:07,110
indicators for us to be able to view. Now the data that we look at is pretty concise for transit.

1370
01:54:07,670 --> 01:54:14,110
you know, we're looking at what's in JDEs, so what's in our fiscal monitoring system that the city has.

1371
01:54:14,530 --> 01:54:18,390
What our operating data is, so that's our ridership and that's our vehicle revenue hours.

1372
01:54:18,410 --> 01:54:24,130
If you recall our contract with our operators based on vehicle revenue hours, it's a contractual hourly rate.

1373
01:54:25,330 --> 01:54:27,870
And so those are two metrics that we can easily track.

1374
01:54:28,530 --> 01:54:34,570
And then it allows us to make these specific KPIs allow this to view the source data in really meaningful ways.

1375
01:54:34,570 --> 01:54:40,090
and so we don't have lots of diverse data but we do have a lot of data that needs to be analyzed

1376
01:54:40,090 --> 01:54:45,390
appropriately and I would be remiss. I did forget this at the beginning. I would like to thank

1377
01:54:45,390 --> 01:54:51,410
my transit team and our finance team as well has helped put together this data. Although

1378
01:54:51,950 --> 01:54:56,130
a set of metrics that you see on here this is months of work in months of collaboration

1379
01:54:56,770 --> 01:54:59,970
between our two departments and I just want to give a special shout out.

1380
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:12,980
To both Lindsay, Lindsay B and Lindsay H, through both departments, because they've dedicated a substantial amount of time to bring this to us today, and data drilling isn't as straightforward as we all think it could be.

1381
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:29,400
So, we have four, four proposed or four key metrics that we'll be looking at as a reminder, this is living data. So, this is data that's updated on a monthly basis, and that's with both our fiscal and our ridership data and all of that that's coming in.

1382
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:33,440
So I'll walk through each one of those and kind of explain what you're seeing on those.

1383
01:55:33,500 --> 01:55:37,320
I know there's a lot of questions on how to interpret these visuals.

1384
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:43,520
And again, as we gain revenue through advertising and ridership, they will change these metrics.

1385
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:49,540
And so our revenue is not just as used to the end there, is not just ridership revenue that would

1386
01:55:49,540 --> 01:55:51,140
be advertising revenue as well.

1387
01:55:53,450 --> 01:55:56,370
So our first one that we have to look at is our operating revenue

1388
01:55:56,370 --> 01:56:12,030
surplus chart and so you'll see there's an operating and that's that light blue line and then the dark blue line as indicated is the CIP and the operating totals and has as I explained in 2028 and in 2027 we have some substantial CIP projects with the replacement vehicles.

1389
01:56:12,570 --> 01:56:21,650
So that's where you see that kind of large dip in there and then that additional dip down in 2029 is based on the assumption that that local match will go up to 20%.

1390
01:56:21,650 --> 01:56:30,210
So you can see this trend is we're following and so this allows us to really take a look at the impacts that we're making revenue exclusive or surplus revenue.

1391
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:35,910
So obviously the goal is to not be down the goal is to be up.

1392
01:56:36,370 --> 01:56:39,930
So this allows us to really utilize a symmetric to track it that way.

1393
01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:51,170
And our next one on here and probably the one that that has drawn maybe the most amount of questions prior to this meeting is the annual year to date revenue versus target.

1394
01:56:51,170 --> 01:56:54,210
You're today at revenue versus target year-end revenue.

1395
01:56:55,210 --> 01:56:57,850
So these are not additive bars.

1396
01:56:58,690 --> 01:57:01,510
These are reflective of where we are right now.

1397
01:57:01,510 --> 01:57:03,090
So that's the blue bar that you see.

1398
01:57:03,590 --> 01:57:07,250
The green bar that you see is where we would hope to be trending

1399
01:57:07,250 --> 01:57:08,350
right now.

1400
01:57:09,250 --> 01:57:11,930
So that's the metric that we'd like to be seeing

1401
01:57:11,930 --> 01:57:13,930
and this is end of July data.

1402
01:57:14,210 --> 01:57:15,990
So this is the metric that we'd like to be seeing

1403
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:18,910
at the end of July and that gray bar that you see

1404
01:57:18,910 --> 01:57:21,470
is where we need to be at the end of the year.

1405
01:57:23,330 --> 01:57:25,210
So if you're just following that trend,

1406
01:57:25,370 --> 01:57:27,370
it's clear that we're going to be following a little bit short,

1407
01:57:27,550 --> 01:57:30,810
but this allows us to visualize the gap between those.

1408
01:57:30,970 --> 01:57:33,110
And so the goal is, as we're looking at these two bars

1409
01:57:33,110 --> 01:57:34,550
between the blue and the green bar,

1410
01:57:35,170 --> 01:57:39,410
the blue bar will hopefully at some point meet the green

1411
01:57:39,410 --> 01:57:41,210
and then at some points surpass the green.

1412
01:57:41,210 --> 01:57:42,390
And if it surpasses the green,

1413
01:57:42,450 --> 01:57:45,570
that indicates that we're in a surplus and not a definite set.

1414
01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:48,150
So that allows us to track those two metrics as they're going

1415
01:57:48,150 --> 01:57:51,050
and know what our year end goal is at the same time.

1416
01:57:52,500 --> 01:57:53,520
Mayor Norton.

1417
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,240
So I want to be delicate about this,

1418
01:57:57,340 --> 01:57:59,780
but I'm also wondering, we've had a lot of call-offs,

1419
01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:01,980
we've had a lot of missed trips.

1420
01:58:03,140 --> 01:58:06,540
The sheer not because people didn't want to take the bus,

1421
01:58:06,620 --> 01:58:08,300
but because the bus wasn't running,

1422
01:58:09,140 --> 01:58:11,380
is that part of what we're seeing here?

1423
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,800
So it could be.

1424
01:58:14,220 --> 01:58:15,120
There's a couple of things.

1425
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:18,420
We do always see a decrease in ridership during the summer,

1426
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,400
and we are in that time of year right now.

1427
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:26,980
And so it's hard for us to look at our ridership data and assume one thing or another, and

1428
01:58:26,980 --> 01:58:30,340
as a reminder, our riders are majority like anonymous.

1429
01:58:30,620 --> 01:58:34,320
And so we don't have the ability to talk to individual riders because their process of purchasing

1430
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,120
a pass or process of riding is an anonymous experience.

1431
01:58:37,740 --> 01:58:40,600
We do, we have city-wide surveys that happen twice a year.

1432
01:58:40,980 --> 01:58:47,300
We do know there's an impact of loss of ridership because we have nests trips, but as an additional

1433
01:58:47,300 --> 01:58:54,300
reminder, we have around 500 trips a day and on those days of massive mistrips, it was 23 to 40.

1434
01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:02,460
So although substantial, a smaller percentage than I don't want to minimize the impact,

1435
01:59:02,740 --> 01:59:05,080
but that I just want to be clear on what that impact was.

1436
01:59:06,660 --> 01:59:12,120
Council member Dory. And this might be an antidotal question as well, but it seems like this summer

1437
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:19,260
we had more cool places to be days than typically are normal and what's a revenue loss for

1438
01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:22,140
one of those days because that might be easier to measure.

1439
01:59:22,500 --> 01:59:27,640
Yeah, so we actually tracked that data through a tablet that's on the buses and it allows

1440
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:33,460
the drivers to push specific buttons. And so that is tracked the same way if somebody came in

1441
01:59:33,460 --> 01:59:39,140
and refused to pay a fair. They could track that data. So it's not technically lost revenue

1442
01:59:39,140 --> 01:59:44,040
because it was never anticipated revenue, so we don't, it's not there likely not somebody who

1443
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:49,540
is going to be writing the bus anyways, so like it allows us to determine that number,

1444
01:59:49,700 --> 01:59:56,620
but we're talking like 20 to 40 individuals. So we, we still charge someone if they're going to use

1445
01:59:56,620 --> 01:59:59,840
the bus to commute, you can ask specifically the driver.

1446
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:09,280
Okay. The writer would come on and say, would like a cool place to be, and then the driver would track that writer, and so it's separate data.

1447
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:11,560
Council member Palmer.

1448
02:00:12,140 --> 02:00:18,500
Well, this is going to be new, but the dependability is the number one issue for me, and you're not meeting that expectation.

1449
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:29,260
With a larger employer in the town, given way, free bus passes, it's hard for me, and you get the revenue. I understand that, but it's hard for me to believe that we're going

1450
02:00:29,260 --> 02:00:34,420
have an increase in ridership when the larger some player opens up four major ramps.

1451
02:00:34,780 --> 02:00:39,060
So I don't see much hope for what you're trying to do other than getting dependability

1452
02:00:39,060 --> 02:00:44,400
down to be number one issue, and when you say that we only miss 10 or 20 trips, it doesn't

1453
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:48,920
matter, but if I'm on the 10 or 20 trips that are missed, I don't get to work. I don't get home.

1454
02:00:49,380 --> 02:00:53,500
So now you become dependable and I preach this many different times in meetings that we've had

1455
02:00:53,500 --> 02:01:00,400
with you here. So I'm disappointed greatly with the lack of dependability. I understand

1456
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:04,780
you're new. I understand we have a new operator coming, but it almost seems like we're

1457
02:01:04,780 --> 02:01:08,780
rearranged in the seats of the Titanic. And your numbers don't aren't saying I'm

1458
02:01:08,780 --> 02:01:09,320
wrong.

1459
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:13,980
Yeah. And I'll definitely touch on that. I think that's one of the things that Vez

1460
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:18,120
has been working really hard on. They have been overhiring for the positions that were

1461
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:23,260
short right now. And we'll be consistently hiring to fill that gap. But also, our utilizing

1462
02:01:23,260 --> 02:01:27,600
technology to ensure that we have efficient trips and that way we can reduce the

1463
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:30,400
amount of vehicles needed which means we can reduce the amount of drivers needed

1464
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:34,380
during peak during those those analysis and I'll say that none of these

1465
02:01:34,380 --> 02:01:38,280
changes are ones that we can it's unfortunate and I wish I could change the whole

1466
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:41,860
system in two weeks but we're not in a situation which that can happen. All of our

1467
02:01:41,860 --> 02:01:45,820
service teachers have to happen in the appropriate FDA protocol. We have to

1468
02:01:45,820 --> 02:01:49,420
announce as we have to do public engagement. All of those take around three months

1469
02:01:49,420 --> 02:01:50,600
to research and implement.

1470
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,840
And so even shifting the routes to better fit the needs

1471
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:56,100
of our driver capacity isn't something

1472
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:59,720
that we can do in a quick removal of a bandage situation,

1473
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:02,120
but there are specific plans that have been implemented

1474
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:03,600
to get us to where we're going.

1475
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:06,820
And I do, we are still trending in Alberta

1476
02:02:06,820 --> 02:02:08,640
ridership regardless of the situations

1477
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:09,960
over the past year.

1478
02:02:10,380 --> 02:02:11,400
Councilmember Miller.

1479
02:02:12,180 --> 02:02:14,280
Want to any detail on this in detail,

1480
02:02:14,500 --> 02:02:17,360
but are we seeing from our partners at Mayo Clinic

1481
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:21,260
that their transit ridership is growing or falling?

1482
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:24,960
I don't know what their, like, in terms of federal ownership.

1483
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:28,680
No, in the shuttle, are they adding shuttles or removing shuttles?

1484
02:02:29,180 --> 02:02:33,660
So with the, the oncoming of link, there will be a reduction of shuttles as we service

1485
02:02:33,660 --> 02:02:37,600
some of the spaces with link that were historically serviced by shuttle service.

1486
02:02:37,900 --> 02:02:42,840
And I think that the addition on there is I am so proud to say the collaboration and the level

1487
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:45,920
of partnership that we've had with Mayo over the past six months.

1488
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:51,820
It's definitely indicated that they are in support of our PT and they want to steer more

1489
02:02:51,820 --> 02:02:55,200
individuals to utilizing our PT, but they understand that we're under the same constraints

1490
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,420
and we understand theirs.

1491
02:02:56,900 --> 02:03:04,800
We need to have a reliable service and we're working towards that and definitely hopeful for

1492
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:05,200
the future.

1493
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:10,000
But I'm very excited about the partnership that we have and I'll go over some of those as

1494
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,140
we come up in a few slides.

1495
02:03:11,140 --> 02:03:21,180
But to council member Palmer's question when they open four new ramps, do they do they plan to reduce their shuttle operations because now people are just driving themselves?

1496
02:03:21,940 --> 02:03:25,160
And that's an question unfortunately I can't answer because I'm not within me.

1497
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:26,360
Operations.

1498
02:03:30,630 --> 02:03:30,930
Continue.

1499
02:03:33,180 --> 02:03:38,960
So this metric indicates our ridership target and so the blue bar is where we're at.

1500
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:45,880
The green bar is where we think we're going to be tracking based on our current trends for the year.

1501
02:03:46,300 --> 02:03:52,200
So, and then that 1.1, almost 1.2 million is our target ridership to reach the revenue.

1502
02:03:52,840 --> 02:04:02,180
Now, that green number and that green number are they'll move and they'll adjust as our cost per ride adjusts over the course of the year.

1503
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,160
So, those aren't static numbers either.

1504
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:06,800
they're taking into account revenues that's being brought in.

1505
02:04:07,020 --> 02:04:10,420
So as our cost provides, so it's easy to think

1506
02:04:10,420 --> 02:04:13,140
that each trader pays $2, but that's not true.

1507
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:15,480
That's only if they're buying a single fair at full rate.

1508
02:04:15,820 --> 02:04:18,380
If they're buying a monthly pass or a ride pass,

1509
02:04:18,500 --> 02:04:22,340
that's a reduced number or another example is our student

1510
02:04:22,340 --> 02:04:24,760
writers write for a reduced rate.

1511
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:26,900
And so all of veterans write for free.

1512
02:04:27,060 --> 02:04:28,920
And so all of that hasn't impacted that total

1513
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:30,240
ridership dollar amount.

1514
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:49,020
And this is, as I've affectionally been calling it kind of our doomsday clock, but if we were to make no modifications to this system, but we are, and we have been making modifications to this system, if you recall, I'm the slide that I presented in January, we would have been out of money in about two and a half three years.

1515
02:04:49,020 --> 02:04:53,160
And so now our projection is about just over four years

1516
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:56,260
until we anticipate if no shifts in ridership,

1517
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:57,700
if we're trending the way that we're trending,

1518
02:04:58,020 --> 02:04:59,980
if that line graph that we...

1519
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,960
The indicators of the KPI stays in that downward trajectory. This would be, this would be a word,

1520
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:09,040
be trending. But we don't anticipate that. And we've already seen moves in the contrary.

1521
02:05:10,460 --> 02:05:11,300
Council Member Miller.

1522
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:15,480
Yeah, just a question. Since this dashboard is largely a snapshot, as you've mentioned.

1523
02:05:15,980 --> 02:05:20,840
Are you tracking those measures over time and how might we understand improvements? I think it's great.

1524
02:05:21,020 --> 02:05:27,560
And I know that we've seen drastic improvements for this presentation. But again, we're just looking at this snapshot.

1525
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:30,900
and only comparing time periods for a couple of the measures.

1526
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,880
So for anybody that looks at this and says this is really bad, right?

1527
02:05:37,020 --> 02:05:39,900
If there's a photo taken, published on lines and where,

1528
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:42,240
if somebody sees, well, four years or out of money,

1529
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:44,120
that's a better state that we were in.

1530
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:47,360
And I just wonder how we're telling that story to the public as well,

1531
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,820
that you and your team are doing great work to improve our position.

1532
02:05:52,940 --> 02:05:56,640
And I think one of the ways is just providing a constant update on these metrics.

1533
02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:09,740
These are actually all power B.I. and so it's live dynamic data and if anybody would like access to that on our council we can definitely provide that without admin rights.

1534
02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:18,860
But additionally we will be providing this monthly to council and our monthly updates in replacement to the transit report that you have in receiving.

1535
02:06:18,860 --> 02:06:23,760
I think this provides a better snapshot of what's going on and where we are and you can track that on a monthly basis.

1536
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:35,530
I just want to say, I love this dashboard. You guys did an amazing job. I mean, yes, it is a snapshot in time.

1537
02:06:36,090 --> 02:06:44,550
But to really have this level of transparency and where we are headed and it really helps us with our decision making.

1538
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:52,310
And so I really encourage all of our departments to really look at this dashboard.

1539
02:06:52,310 --> 02:06:58,750
and I know I haven't even seen all of it yet, but it really is what I'm looking at when it comes

1540
02:06:58,750 --> 02:07:07,570
to really getting a real clear crisp view overview of the dynamics in that department. So thank you.

1541
02:07:08,030 --> 02:07:11,530
Well, thank the Lindsay's. They worked really hard on it and appreciated that. They worked with

1542
02:07:11,530 --> 02:07:12,290
Lindsay's back there.

1543
02:07:16,530 --> 02:07:20,350
So as we kind of wrap up these metrics, what are the things that we

1544
02:07:20,350 --> 02:07:23,950
want to ensure? And I think these are some of the topics that we've touched on. But again,

1545
02:07:23,950 --> 02:07:30,430
Increasing a brighter confidence. We want to ensure that they are they know that vehicles coming they know that bus is coming to pick them up

1546
02:07:30,430 --> 02:07:36,690
They know that paradigms of vehicles coming to pick them up and they can depend on it and they know they're going to get to where they need to go when they need to be there

1547
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:45,530
Reliability fits within that as well and obviously none of this is going without saying that we have our transit development plan coming up

1548
02:07:45,530 --> 02:07:49,870
But that doesn't mean we're not doing any analysis of our of our systems before then

1549
02:07:49,870 --> 02:08:03,230
We've already sent our December service change to via to review for optimization and efficiency and so those conversations have already started and that data has already been shared and it's not even September first yet.

1550
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:09,430
And then additionally having service changes that are thoughtful and and provide the service that's most effective for our system.

1551
02:08:09,970 --> 02:08:18,750
And we can do that with our partner in via so at this time I'll hand the clicker over to McCall Houston to introduce yourself and to provide an update on what via is planning for the next few years.

1552
02:08:18,750 --> 02:08:19,670
Welcome.

1553
02:08:21,830 --> 02:08:22,470
Thank you.

1554
02:08:22,890 --> 02:08:25,310
Just wanted to start by saying thank you for having me.

1555
02:08:25,350 --> 02:08:31,190
I am super excited to be here and I think Beez and entire company is really excited for this partnership over the long term.

1556
02:08:31,670 --> 02:08:37,270
I'm going to dive into a little bit of kind of how we look at things over the long term and how we think about planning.

1557
02:08:37,790 --> 02:08:46,950
To be totally honest this week and next week in the next week my team is so focused on making sure that September 1st is smooth and to your point that buses are running as they should be.

1558
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:50,190
but we do want to give you a little bit of a peek behind the curtain on what we're doing

1559
02:08:50,190 --> 02:08:57,110
in more of a long-term approach. So first, we have a team at via called via strategy. So that's

1560
02:08:57,110 --> 02:09:01,670
different than who's going to be here every day managing. We have a dedicated, uh,

1561
02:09:01,670 --> 02:09:06,890
transit planning and consulting practice that are, like, true experts in this and it comes with

1562
02:09:06,890 --> 02:09:12,750
our contract and is part of our partnership that we are available to help and do and support whether

1563
02:09:12,750 --> 02:09:17,890
on a variety of things, whether it's a public engagement, full network resilience, strategy

1564
02:09:18,430 --> 02:09:22,930
is mobility, hub and infrastructure planning, really kind of from start to finish, working

1565
02:09:22,930 --> 02:09:28,090
alongside you all to figure out what the best long-term plan is for our PT.

1566
02:09:30,250 --> 02:09:34,450
And one thing that we really believe is that while you do make trade-offs obviously any time

1567
02:09:34,450 --> 02:09:38,890
you're planning transit, there are a lot of ways that we've seen and have been able to implement

1568
02:09:38,890 --> 02:09:41,970
where we're both expanding access and improving efficiency.

1569
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:46,790
So kind of a very high level of our core philosophy is that we tend to look at the least

1570
02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:51,970
sufficient routes, likely move that into micro transit, that way you can decrease costs and increase

1571
02:09:51,970 --> 02:09:56,330
the coverage, medium efficiency routes, we like to optimize service, make sure we have the right

1572
02:09:56,330 --> 02:09:57,510
because these are the right hours.

1573
02:09:58,090 --> 02:09:59,970
And then in the most efficient routes, that's where we...

1574
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,560
10 to read the invest and improve headways as we see really frequent headways or what drive ridership the most.

1575
02:10:08,750 --> 02:10:14,570
And kind of the three pillars of how we think about this. Again, there are always trade-offs as we do work through this.

1576
02:10:14,890 --> 02:10:19,170
But we try to balance between the rider experience, efficiency and coverage.

1577
02:10:19,710 --> 02:10:24,410
And each of these mean quite a few different things. So for us, like coverage is an example, isn't just the service area.

1578
02:10:24,690 --> 02:10:27,210
It's what's the service mode, what are the operating hours?

1579
02:10:27,210 --> 02:10:32,390
right or experience is the booking model as well as stock locations and frequency and wait times

1580
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:34,730
and there's just a lot of different pillars that we look at here.

1581
02:10:34,850 --> 02:10:39,390
efficiency is cost per trip for you all as our partner but also productivity in

1582
02:10:39,390 --> 02:10:43,650
multimodal coordination amongst all of the different methods of getting people around.

1583
02:10:46,540 --> 02:10:50,700
And we've taken this approach with quite a few different partners, a few that are highlighted here.

1584
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:55,840
One, the first one is Sioux Falls, South Dakota which is actually relatively similar system

1585
02:10:55,840 --> 02:11:01,360
to what we have here. We went and did a full network redesign a few years ago, saw a very significant

1586
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:06,700
increase in ridership. I think in the first year it was up about 23%. And we were also able

1587
02:11:06,700 --> 02:11:12,100
to co-mingle micro transit in Paris Transit, which allowed efficiency to increase by 53%. So

1588
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:17,980
phenomenal results across the board there. Mobile Alabama is actually launching a full network redesign

1589
02:11:17,980 --> 02:11:23,260
here. I think in about a week or two. And there was a massive community engagement push behind

1590
02:11:23,260 --> 02:11:26,680
that piece. It was important for our partner there to make sure that voices were heard.

1591
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:31,960
So we engaged over 2,000 different community members met with tons of different partnerships.

1592
02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:35,320
I think that's a playbook that will actually apply very well here where they're very strong

1593
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:41,100
partners in the community. And then Salt Lake City we've done like very deep transit planning

1594
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:46,480
with them over a few different modes over the past eight years. So I think via strategies

1595
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:51,360
has a lot of different elements that we can bring. And it's not a one size fits all.

1596
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,480
but it's not here is the playbook and how we do it,

1597
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:56,200
but here's how our many playbooks can be applied

1598
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,880
across different markets as like is gonna do Rochester

1599
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:02,040
and be the best for the future year.

1600
02:12:05,900 --> 02:12:07,960
Thank you, McCall and I just want to point out

1601
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:10,820
McCall was one of the leads for the Mobile

1602
02:12:10,820 --> 02:12:12,560
Alabama transition as well.

1603
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:14,060
So to familiar with the space,

1604
02:12:14,060 --> 02:12:19,980
a lot of familiar situations also an HEU unionized facility.

1605
02:12:20,900 --> 02:12:22,920
So just good for additional reference there

1606
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:23,880
and some context.

1607
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:29,680
And as we move through, definitely new and continued partnerships are how we're going to be

1608
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:31,220
successful in this space as well.

1609
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:37,640
So again, to touch on our really honored collaboration with Mayo Clinic, I just feel consistently

1610
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:41,920
supported by that team and they've been an asset in ensuring that we can do certain things.

1611
02:12:41,940 --> 02:12:46,260
And a great example is I'll just jump ahead to the time limits on the next slide, but we will

1612
02:12:46,260 --> 02:12:51,080
be doing a service change in December to move back to the second street, transportation centers,

1613
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:55,720
And that was facilitated through an substantial amount of conversations with the Mayo partners because

1614
02:12:56,700 --> 02:13:01,980
the construction for their facilities is what's kind of in that space. And so we want to ensure that we have that,

1615
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:06,540
but they also see the value and us moving back there. So really appreciate our continuing collaborations with them

1616
02:13:07,020 --> 02:13:14,780
in constant conversations right now with UMR to to see how we can facilitate more student and faculty access to Rochester public transit.

1617
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:20,640
Our continued collaboration with RPS and trying to pusho viability in that and as we've

1618
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:26,480
brought buses out to John Marshall and in trying to encourage students to write that our data for that

1619
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:32,320
it's really it's pretty successful looking right now we have around 1,000 rides for months for students

1620
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:37,460
and so although that's not a substantial amount of students that's about 40 on a monthly basis

1621
02:13:37,460 --> 02:13:43,260
but that's 40 students that we're not writing transit before. So really interesting data coming out of there

1622
02:13:43,260 --> 02:13:48,740
and then the Southeast Minnesota Transit Management Organization that's getting started up we had the

1623
02:13:48,740 --> 02:13:56,000
steering committee meeting today and so their tagline is your region, your ride, and so that's an opportunity for us to collaborate with

1624
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:06,280
transit agencies throughout the Southeast Minnesota area, and to see how they can filter in to Rochester and in effective and successful way, but also provide transit to

1625
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:16,900
to more rural areas of the state as well. So really great, a great asset to have in the region, and then the TDM work group that's

1626
02:14:16,900 --> 02:14:23,220
her headed by Matt Lynch is an indefinal asset to Rochester Public Transit. He is collaborating

1627
02:14:23,220 --> 02:14:27,700
creating those collaborations. I'll thank him for those continued conversations that we've

1628
02:14:27,700 --> 02:14:33,760
had with the UMAR. And then as Amanda gets on deck, but really excited about the work that she's

1629
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:40,080
doing and how transit can incorporate itself into her economic mobility plan. But I also forgot

1630
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:45,180
to put a DMC on here. We do collaborate highly with DMC as well, especially with the upcoming

1631
02:14:45,180 --> 02:14:50,500
week without driving activity and so we'll have a learning opportunity for individuals to come out

1632
02:14:50,500 --> 02:14:56,120
and experience the bus and get on a bus and learn what that looks like and again at John Marshall,

1633
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:59,960
but then have a fair free day in conjunction with a week with that.

1634
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:15,800
And then what does the next year or plus look like? So via start, next Tuesday, as I've said a few times during this presentation, as indicated, we have our next service changes targeted toward December. I know I'd originally hoped that to be in October.

1635
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:30,080
But construction impacts, what facilitates moving back in a clean way on the second straight, but through those conversations, the collaborations with our internal construction teams and mayows construction teams, we feel good about moving back to the second street transit center in December.

1636
02:15:30,860 --> 02:15:39,780
And then in January, you'll receive hopefully an intent to award for our, well, prior to that, but our advertising RFP updated will be in January.

1637
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,680
So that's a substantial increase to what we currently have.

1638
02:15:42,740 --> 02:15:44,780
I think right now we have about 15 wrapped buses.

1639
02:15:45,300 --> 02:15:49,540
We're hoping to increase that to 51, which is our entire diesel fleet.

1640
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:52,720
And then the electric buses would not be wrapped.

1641
02:15:53,140 --> 02:15:59,540
Obviously the link buses would be wrapped, but additionally the remaining buses would be available if we needed incorporate them into the link route.

1642
02:15:59,540 --> 02:16:05,240
we wanted to keep them unwrapped, and but it also looks at increasing maybe the percentage back to

1643
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:11,200
the city as well and more advertising in our transit shelters, and so right now we only have

1644
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:17,060
advertising in one, so we're definitely hoping to increase that number as well. Summer 2027 bringing

1645
02:16:17,060 --> 02:16:21,540
on the link BRT mode, which will definitely have an impact to our fixed road system and hopefully

1646
02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:29,280
a very positive way as individuals are exposed to transit and allowed to experience it in a low risk

1647
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:42,460
capacity. And then we'll also in 2027 start the TDP as indicated. There's a lot of things happening and we're still doing ongoing analysis, but we want to ensure that we incorporate data from link into the TDP as well.

1648
02:16:42,960 --> 02:16:48,340
And then in 2028 we would implement that transit development plan and as a reminder that's a five year outlook.

1649
02:16:49,020 --> 02:16:57,120
But with via and via strategies as a partner, we there would be again continuing on going analysis if that's the best fit for this city as well.

1650
02:17:00,580 --> 02:17:02,960
And now any discussions or feedback?

1651
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:04,240
Very thorough.

1652
02:17:04,660 --> 02:17:05,160
Council member.

1653
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:07,380
Well, thank you.

1654
02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:08,380
I enjoyed the presentation.

1655
02:17:09,660 --> 02:17:14,280
I appreciate that we do, did you say two city-wide surveys each year?

1656
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:19,660
And I would guess most of those surveys would go to non-writers, and some of that data

1657
02:17:19,660 --> 02:17:20,520
could be helpful.

1658
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:28,380
Is there a way to get beyond the anonymity of the current ridership so that we get user data

1659
02:17:28,380 --> 02:17:32,440
as to how we can make the transit system

1660
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:37,340
even more desirable for ridership?

1661
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:39,040
Yeah, that's a great question.

1662
02:17:39,720 --> 02:17:41,840
So our transit service goes out

1663
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:43,600
with our service changes through Polklo.

1664
02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:46,040
So it gets blasted to the entire Polklo Lisserv.

1665
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:48,720
We typically have pretty good turnout on those,

1666
02:17:48,740 --> 02:17:50,380
like 500 plus survey responses.

1667
02:17:50,940 --> 02:17:52,740
Some transit riders, some not transit riders.

1668
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:53,580
And within those surveys,

1669
02:17:53,860 --> 02:17:55,480
we're always asking, are you a transit rider?

1670
02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:57,700
And if they are, it leads to a series of questions

1671
02:17:57,700 --> 02:18:02,120
what route do you take, what hinders you in that space, so we are tracking all of that data.

1672
02:18:02,460 --> 02:18:07,320
What's interesting is historically, I mean historically, the last two surveys that I've

1673
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:10,340
been a part of prior to the one that we just did a few weeks ago.

1674
02:18:11,480 --> 02:18:14,260
It was the central park was a hindrance that we saw in there.

1675
02:18:14,260 --> 02:18:17,340
It was the harder for them to access where they need to go because the central park.

1676
02:18:17,620 --> 02:18:22,420
But now that summer has started, it's delays, it's construction delays that seem to

1677
02:18:22,420 --> 02:18:24,920
be the number one concern on people's plate.

1678
02:18:26,810 --> 02:18:42,510
But I will add, like we do two surveys a year, but we also encourage individuals to reach out directly to RBT at RochesterMN.gov, that comes directly to me and some of my team and we keep that data and utilize it for upcoming service changes.

1679
02:18:42,810 --> 02:18:46,730
So if there's an opportunity to provide input, you don't have to wait for a survey either.

1680
02:18:46,730 --> 02:18:53,010
Maybe another way of asking that is there a requirement for anonymity based on the federal funding or other resources that

1681
02:18:53,010 --> 02:18:55,750
henders us from doing that.

1682
02:18:55,870 --> 02:18:56,510
There's not.

1683
02:18:56,990 --> 02:19:03,890
But I think as there's more adoption and more utilization of our current app in future apps, we could

1684
02:19:03,890 --> 02:19:05,530
reduce some of that as well.

1685
02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:11,050
Currently with the transit app, we have looked at the possibility of pushing out survey questions through that.

1686
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:14,090
However, it was very cost prohibitive to add that as a feature.

1687
02:19:14,090 --> 02:19:19,450
If you're curious of what that cost was, I think it was around $30,000 a year to add survey as an option.

1688
02:19:19,650 --> 02:19:23,170
And within the transit apps, we chose to maintain with Polco.

1689
02:19:25,070 --> 02:19:25,410
Continue.

1690
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:33,410
And one more question, did the change from a loop system to out and back?

1691
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:35,330
Did that change ridership much?

1692
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:36,590
We did.

1693
02:19:37,090 --> 02:19:41,070
At the jump, with the implementation of change, did see a reduction in ridership?

1694
02:19:41,070 --> 02:19:46,230
and that's not unexpected, changes is scary and overwhelming and can be a little bit hard

1695
02:19:46,230 --> 02:19:51,790
to adapt too. And so we did see a slight reduction, but we have seen that kind of recover and

1696
02:19:51,790 --> 02:19:59,970
come up and is a reminder the spring service changes were in line with summer, which has a

1697
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,740
Some of that reduction was just because the weather was nicer, too. But we did notice this slight reduction.

1698
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:11,300
We are grateful for the writers that decided to reach out and ask for kind of how to move through that system.

1699
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:18,780
And I think it was a good opportunity for my team and myself to learn and lean a little bit more on to change management as we move through that.

1700
02:20:18,980 --> 02:20:23,980
We definitely saw it as a positive, but for individuals that have been writing as a loop, it felt overwhelming.

1701
02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:28,160
Council member Keen, did you have a question?

1702
02:20:29,780 --> 02:20:36,060
So first off, I really do appreciate your team coming in with KPIs, but also understanding

1703
02:20:36,060 --> 02:20:40,380
that this is a way to look at it and there's different connections to it, but it almost

1704
02:20:40,380 --> 02:20:43,060
is almost like looking at the scoreboard than looking at the game.

1705
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:48,600
And within the game, it still strikes me as our biggest problems, we're still trying to get

1706
02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:56,340
over is the collapse of ridership during COVID, it has not come back, whether that's systemic

1707
02:20:56,340 --> 02:21:04,380
or something we just have to figure out, this idea that we got funding help during COVID and

1708
02:21:04,380 --> 02:21:09,440
now we're coming out of it. And that's clearly the main problem when you look at this.

1709
02:21:09,580 --> 02:21:14,640
I still can't get over the fact that our director called it a doomsday clock. We've got to get past that.

1710
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:21,340
I'll try. I'll try. I'll try. But I mean, are we looking at more the system as a,

1711
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:25,780
like are there any other systemic problems? I mean, I've always heard that the Rochester

1712
02:21:25,780 --> 02:21:33,140
population with a 55-mile spread just can't do public transit in an efficient way and that's

1713
02:21:33,140 --> 02:21:38,800
why our system is sort of supported by the parking rides and the other things is like catching

1714
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:43,940
catch camp but they're not paying for themselves. Is are we looking at it that way or because

1715
02:21:43,940 --> 02:21:55,680
I'm still looking at this whole BRT as a major, major change and I'm just wondering if the whole

1716
02:21:55,680 --> 02:22:03,840
He's got to change or I don't want to try to do a strategy thing here, but those are the kind of things we're thinking of because I don't want to just look at the scoreboard

1717
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:09,580
I want to kind of make sure we're understanding the game. Yeah, and the answer to all of this question is yes

1718
02:22:09,580 --> 02:22:13,360
We're it's one of the reasons why we saw a lot of value in having via come on as a partner

1719
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:19,940
But I think there's additional opportunities and we're looking at and I did leave this off of and I apologize off of the timeline

1720
02:22:19,940 --> 02:22:28,040
But the new North Broadway Park and Ride Location will provide an opportunity for us to diversify the transit hub, and if you don't need to go all the way to downtown

1721
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:35,900
You don't have to do anymore. And so we're going to be looking at that and implementing some effective change in what our service area can do and what those

1722
02:22:35,900 --> 02:22:39,820
Those transit hub areas look like as well, but we are looking at it very

1723
02:22:39,820 --> 02:22:43,560
We're going to be holistically looking at other partners, looking at other systems are doing,

1724
02:22:44,660 --> 02:22:48,860
but VA is doing some incredible things with data, and I think we kind of glossed over it,

1725
02:22:48,940 --> 02:22:52,440
but I think it's important to mention some of the ridership issues that we've had with

1726
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:58,540
paratransit services as well, and VA has been able to analyze our current vehicle capacity

1727
02:22:58,540 --> 02:23:02,980
and our current driver capacity and determine that in a lot of situations we wouldn't need

1728
02:23:02,980 --> 02:23:07,980
to call overflow rides, we just aren't booking in an efficient manner, and so they can look at

1729
02:23:07,980 --> 02:23:11,180
and really look at, is everybody going to the same place?

1730
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:12,860
Okay, how do we coordinate that ride?

1731
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:15,360
So it makes sense and we can pick up multiples and drop them off.

1732
02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:17,920
So they've already started conversations with those,

1733
02:23:17,920 --> 02:23:22,520
those main drop-off locations, you know like elderly centers

1734
02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:25,700
and facilities that bring in a lot of individuals

1735
02:23:25,700 --> 02:23:28,180
and how can we more efficiently drop people off?

1736
02:23:28,220 --> 02:23:30,040
So those are all things that have already started

1737
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:34,400
before September versus even come but also before via was even on board.

1738
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:40,820
Our transit planner, Sandra Abouza, if you see her name, she did get married, so it's different, she didn't leave.

1739
02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:47,420
But she's been having a strategic outlook on this priority, even via coming on board.

1740
02:23:48,180 --> 02:23:51,400
I'm glad to see the micro discussions coming into the discussion.

1741
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:58,960
I think via does bring a lot to the table more than just that sort of not just operational partner, but also having that experience.

1742
02:23:58,960 --> 02:24:02,660
But I also want to sort of vote for

1743
02:24:02,660 --> 02:24:10,420
Not so much asking what a customer's watch about watching what they do and this whole thing with the male shuttles and how they got put in place

1744
02:24:10,420 --> 02:24:16,900
I and and then we're gonna try to figure that out in the meantime BRT comes in and I think it's gonna change behaviors

1745
02:24:16,900 --> 02:24:19,140
depending on who gets to 2,500

1746
02:24:19,700 --> 02:24:25,700
parking passes and who gets something else, but I am worried about this system because I

1747
02:24:25,700 --> 02:24:31,080
I'm not just the, you know, the ridership thing with working at home, the whole, the

1748
02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:38,080
finding thing, but it still is looking at Rochester as this 58 mile place that we're

1749
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:45,020
trying to do public transit for 150,000 people. Is it a winner or do we need to do something much

1750
02:24:45,020 --> 02:24:52,760
more focused? And I know that Mr. Gets are wanting to jump in on something. Thank you. I'm sorry,

1751
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:59,980
Rachel, please jump back in here, but I just wanted it to take a different spend to Councilmember Keen's question as well. So first of all, I'll just

1752
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:10,500
Start by saying Rachel has been in her team events so focused on this and you can see the impact. I'm excited about the ideas via brings to improve the service in other ways and grow ridership.

1753
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:26,240
But you asked about the scoreboard and so I want to maybe go to the flip side of that for a moment and just share that. One of the things that I'm always talking with Rachel about and she's always talking with her team about is watching the scoreboard numbers because the reality is

1754
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:35,320
the consistency and the reliability of our service must improve or we will have to

1755
02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:39,020
make drastic changes. And so one of the reasons that we're watching this so closely

1756
02:25:39,020 --> 02:25:45,820
is because if the ridership drops due to inconsistent or unreliable service,

1757
02:25:46,180 --> 02:25:50,280
we have backup plans that we can reduce service, such that we then do have enough

1758
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:54,940
drivers to deliver the service more reliably. So that's the flip side of the answer

1759
02:25:54,940 --> 02:26:14,080
And I know that Rachel and her team are focused on and we'll get us there without having to take that drastic step and the via team, but I just want to put that out there that that is the other the other side of that coin and if we can't fix this the right way then the other way is to just drastically reduce service so that we can have reliable service because reliability is a must.

1760
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:17,700
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, and I don't want to be little, because I really do appreciate

1761
02:26:17,700 --> 02:26:23,520
it, I have KPIs, but I guess the other part of this, the underpinning of this, is this idea

1762
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:27,660
of the number of people who are so dependent, and I don't mean just people trying to get to their jobs,

1763
02:26:27,700 --> 02:26:34,540
but people running businesses that this is the way the stuff works. And if we fail on it, it really

1764
02:26:34,540 --> 02:26:39,020
is going to drive a lot of other problems that I just don't want to have to deal with.

1765
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:44,060
Yeah, and I'll say, and I hope my team nods behind me, but one of the things I consistently say,

1766
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:47,840
is we're looking at numbers, we're looking at dollars, we're looking at metrics, but all of

1767
02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:51,720
those are reflective of actual people that are trying to move around their daily life. And if

1768
02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:54,960
they're maybe they're going to work, but maybe they're going to appointment, maybe they're going

1769
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:58,680
to visit their family. And I think there are things that we have within our system that don't

1770
02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:03,500
provide that experience either. And so what are the ways that we can really meet people where they are?

1771
02:27:03,500 --> 02:27:06,680
And I think that's when we're looking at service changes. And that's when we're looking at marketing

1772
02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:11,820
when it comes to transit and transit has a different spin on it. Like we are shifting our system

1773
02:27:11,820 --> 02:27:17,080
to meet people where they are, not asking people to meet us, and so there's a little bit

1774
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:17,440
of both.

1775
02:27:17,580 --> 02:27:22,380
There might be some last mile conversations in there as well, but we really want to provide

1776
02:27:22,380 --> 02:27:26,040
a system that works for people and not force people to manipulate their lives to really work

1777
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:26,900
for our system.

1778
02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:28,140
Come to the moment.

1779
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:31,820
You mentioned the park and ride, but we have the park and ride right now.

1780
02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:34,040
You're just replacing the one that's at the Haley Center.

1781
02:27:35,340 --> 02:27:37,360
In 2019, we had over 2 million riders.

1782
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:41,200
The city of Rochester hasn't grown that much. We're down to 600,000 dollars.

1783
02:27:41,480 --> 02:27:46,660
The 600,000 writers right now, the city hasn't grown that much.

1784
02:27:46,880 --> 02:27:50,320
And so I don't like the idea that OGs were too big and we can't survive.

1785
02:27:50,840 --> 02:27:53,780
We had two million writers. Something happened to those two million writers.

1786
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:57,500
And I think that Mr. Yester is right on the number, and I've said it 20 times,

1787
02:27:57,900 --> 02:28:00,120
is if you're not going to be reliable, they're not going to use you.

1788
02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:03,820
And I don't care who's running the ship if you don't have reliability.

1789
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:09,760
I'm not a fan of your micro-transit. We did a pilot program. It was $285 a writer

1790
02:28:10,660 --> 02:28:14,480
Cost and I don't know who thinks that's considered a good number, but

1791
02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:21,000
If that's what we're gonna be bringing to it that does not work. Yeah, I would ask for us not to look at that microchains

1792
02:28:21,920 --> 02:28:26,720
Pilot as an example of a microchains assistance look like in other cities because it doesn't

1793
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:29,820
Doesn't mimic what we would see in in similar urban systems

1794
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:41,280
Okay, we've got four people now that want to speak and just to be clear, Council, we are

1795
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:51,160
over on this item and we will be kind of press to on the next one. So I've got Mayor Norton.

1796
02:28:51,160 --> 02:29:01,240
I've got council member, oh, okay, I've got council member Fredrick, so go ahead Mayor Norton.

1797
02:29:01,620 --> 02:29:04,040
And let's be brief, I want to end this topic.

1798
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:07,180
It's an interesting topic and I appreciate it.

1799
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:14,260
I had a question, maybe more for thank you.

1800
02:29:15,980 --> 02:29:19,900
The point has been made that we've seen a decrease in ridership and that is true.

1801
02:29:19,900 --> 02:29:22,820
And we know that the pandemic was part of that.

1802
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:24,380
I don't know if it was all of it.

1803
02:29:24,500 --> 02:29:27,700
I'm wondering since you do services in other cities

1804
02:29:27,700 --> 02:29:29,940
is what we're experiencing unusual

1805
02:29:29,940 --> 02:29:33,380
or is what we're experiencing happening across the country?

1806
02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:35,440
I think there were hits across the country.

1807
02:29:35,500 --> 02:29:36,720
I think the numbers that we're seeing here

1808
02:29:36,720 --> 02:29:39,160
a little bit more drastic than in other locations.

1809
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:42,900
My guess is part of it here is the reliability piece.

1810
02:29:42,900 --> 02:29:44,940
I think we do see major hits with reliability.

1811
02:29:45,380 --> 02:29:48,120
So that's obviously our number one priority to fix.

1812
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:52,540
and then some of the innovations with the Mayo system is my understanding, and those have probably

1813
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:57,140
had a good chunk of the impact as well. So I think similar, but maybe more exaggerated.

1814
02:29:57,800 --> 02:29:59,980
And I'll say that the timeline is a little-

1815
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,620
Local government's leading when it came to COVID impacts to our system because it was also when our IB and

1816
02:30:04,620 --> 02:30:09,180
parking ride came offline. And I think that would be a miss for me to not mention that now that

1817
02:30:09,180 --> 02:30:12,400
did reduce a lot of our ridership within the system.

1818
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:14,500
Council member, Fredericks.

1819
02:30:14,980 --> 02:30:21,580
Yeah, do you have the updated periure costs periure at this point? I heard it a few months ago.

1820
02:30:22,060 --> 02:30:23,980
What it was, but what are we sitting at now?

1821
02:30:24,660 --> 02:30:27,740
Yeah, I can pull that up. It's a dollar.

1822
02:30:29,380 --> 02:30:34,140
of course I close my computer and then you ask.

1823
02:30:36,600 --> 02:30:38,320
I can pull that data.

1824
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:45,580
I know, I got it the

1825
02:30:45,580 --> 02:30:53,840
first time. Well, while you are pulling that up and a council member Miller, if you can make

1826
02:30:53,840 --> 02:31:00,740
it brief, we will let you ask your question while she's pulling up the number. A request

1827
02:31:00,740 --> 02:31:05,700
then for via because you operate in the Sioux Falls market, I was just looking at the numbers,

1828
02:31:05,900 --> 02:31:11,280
there are nearly 200,000 people over 81 square miles, but very similar population density does.

1829
02:31:12,060 --> 02:31:17,340
You've done drastic route redesign micro transit integration. Are there materials that you could

1830
02:31:17,340 --> 02:31:21,820
share with the council about kind of what you did in that market and what impacts you've seen because

1831
02:31:21,820 --> 02:31:25,800
I suspect that that's just going to be something that's quite unfamiliar and would be a helpful

1832
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:30,640
resource and how we understand how your involvement might change the prospect for our system.

1833
02:31:30,740 --> 02:31:41,640
Yeah, absolutely. I think at a high level it was like decrease the the routes that were inefficient at micro and increased her frequencies on more efficient routes, but we have tons of materials that would be happy to provide.

1834
02:31:42,140 --> 02:31:44,120
Get a number for us. It's a dollar 40.

1835
02:31:44,900 --> 02:31:46,960
All right, dollar 40 per.

1836
02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:47,640
Per ride.

1837
02:31:48,040 --> 02:31:51,960
And I think it's important to have that clarification to a rider is not a ride.

1838
02:31:52,400 --> 02:31:56,020
And when we present numbers and we present data that's data based on rides.

1839
02:31:56,260 --> 02:31:59,080
And so that's not that could be one person riding multiple times.

1840
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:02,020
more clear. My question is what's a costing us per ride?

1841
02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:02,560
Oh,

1842
02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:09,960
I can also give you that number. Thanks Lindsey, a dollar 64.

1843
02:32:10,540 --> 02:32:12,040
There you go.

1844
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:13,060
Good.

1845
02:32:13,780 --> 02:32:17,160
Well, thank you both very much. Welcome again.

1846
02:32:17,540 --> 02:32:24,620
Good luck next week with the rollout and we will take a six minute break.

1847
02:33:56,710 --> 02:34:05,370
But I just want to warn the council we may run over our 630, but we're not going to take it out on Amanda, so take it away.

1848
02:34:05,370 --> 02:34:18,730
I will, I will threw my best to guys out of here by a six thirty. So wonderful. Yeah, council president council mayor. Thank you so much for your attention this evening. I know it's been a long evening.

1849
02:34:19,850 --> 02:34:28,370
But I met some of you during my start in the city, but my name is Amanda Liner. I'm the economic mobility program specialist. This is a brand new role that started in February.

1850
02:34:28,370 --> 02:34:34,370
So, today, tonight, we're going to give you a six-month update or progress upgrade on economic

1851
02:34:34,370 --> 02:34:40,590
mobility work to support inclusive growth. Sharing key findings and lessons learned as we're

1852
02:34:40,590 --> 02:34:45,710
identifying emerging areas of focus, as this work moves from discovery into action phases.

1853
02:34:47,830 --> 02:34:51,690
So, we'll bring this slide back up at the end, but tonight we'll be seeking your feedback on the

1854
02:34:51,690 --> 02:34:56,390
emerging direction of this work to inform its continued development, especially as we're moving into

1855
02:34:56,390 --> 02:34:59,970
more in-depth stakeholder engagement and community code design process.

1856
02:35:03,310 --> 02:35:33,090
So I wanted to start tonight by providing this shared definition of economic ability to ground this conversation. So when we're talking about economic ability, we're just saying it's the ability of someone to improve their well-being over time, going from where they are now to a greater state of financial security and opportunity. So that can be an individual level or intergenerational. I also really like this framework provided by the National League of Cities, where you can see a transition through stages of economic stability, security and well-being,

1857
02:35:33,950 --> 02:35:38,210
That's not always a linear process, but it helps you see what's involved in those stages.

1858
02:35:38,570 --> 02:35:45,530
And also shows that this is a very individualized process that involves multiple systems coming together to influence these outcomes.

1859
02:35:48,940 --> 02:35:51,380
So why are we talking about economic mobility now?

1860
02:35:51,780 --> 02:35:55,300
Every way you come in and talk about growth that's going on in the Rochester community.

1861
02:35:55,800 --> 02:36:01,540
However, this growth doesn't equal the same opportunity access for all residents.

1862
02:36:01,540 --> 02:36:05,760
So really, when we're adding economic mobility into the conversation, we're just saying let's

1863
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:11,120
have improved coordination, alignment, and solutions building across internal and external

1864
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:13,920
systems to get better outcomes for residents.

1865
02:36:14,820 --> 02:36:18,660
I want to note too, when we're talking about economic mobility tonight, we are not saying that

1866
02:36:18,660 --> 02:36:21,160
the city is leading and owning all of these processes.

1867
02:36:21,900 --> 02:36:26,200
We'll be very specific and you've seen in your slide deck where there's been specific areas

1868
02:36:26,200 --> 02:36:29,520
where the city can lead support and inform that work.

1869
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:33,980
and we're seeing this very much something that needs to be done in partnership with organizations

1870
02:36:33,980 --> 02:36:34,880
in the community.

1871
02:36:38,500 --> 02:36:42,620
So you talked about economic mobility as a part of economic development

1872
02:36:43,140 --> 02:36:48,820
a few weeks ago, so I'm not going to take too much time here, but economic development is looking

1873
02:36:48,820 --> 02:36:53,720
at growing the economy. Economic mobility is saying who can actually participate in that growth

1874
02:36:53,720 --> 02:36:58,440
and what are their barriers to accessing it? So when we consider economic mobility, that's a more

1875
02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:02,720
inclusive, look at economic development and economic opportunity access.

1876
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In addition, the city of Rochester received this grant from ICMA last fall to kind of stand

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up this work, identify mobility areas, online stakeholders and develop pilot work.

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So we're part of a national network of communities that gets to work on this kind of together,

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which has been really helpful.

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02:37:22,060 --> 02:37:27,080
But after this grant is done, really what we want to do here is lay the ground work to

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line systems connect work to support and sustain inclusive economic opportunity and economic

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development as we move through this grant and beyond into sustainability.

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So I mentioned in the beginning that this position is new but economic mobility work has already

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been happening both outside of the city or to the inside the city and outside through external

1885
02:37:52,140 --> 02:37:56,600
partners, how we've been thinking about land use, transportation, economic development and housing,

1886
02:37:56,600 --> 02:38:01,460
those systems are all coming together to influence economic mobility outcomes for folks in our community.

1887
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:03,820
So this isn't about doing new work.

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It's saying let's be intentional about how this work spans different departments in the city, different work with partners,

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02:38:10,740 --> 02:38:15,480
how residents are experiencing the interaction of those systems, and where really small changes,

1890
02:38:16,180 --> 02:38:19,960
layering on that economic mobility lens could have different outcomes for folks.

1891
02:38:22,130 --> 02:38:26,990
So this is an overview of the work that's been done to date since I got started in February through

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02:38:26,990 --> 02:38:28,290
to the end of this year.

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So we've taken a very intentional data-driven approach,

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really to understand systems and constraints,

1895
02:38:34,310 --> 02:38:36,330
do extensive engagement with stakeholders

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and understand and uncover data.

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And really the intent with all of this

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is to be very mindful about where the city

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can have the most meaningful impact and collaboration

1900
02:38:45,570 --> 02:38:48,650
with the work that's already taking place to be additive.

1901
02:38:52,260 --> 02:38:53,920
So the first two stages this work

1902
02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:55,660
really looked at deepening our understanding

1903
02:38:55,660 --> 02:38:58,320
of economic ability challenges within the community

1904
02:38:58,320 --> 02:39:02,780
through a variety of ways and we'll go through all of these here, but a lot of external stakeholder

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02:39:02,780 --> 02:39:08,840
engagement, workshops, data discovery, and through this work we uncovered over 30 areas,

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02:39:09,020 --> 02:39:13,520
specifically impacting economic mobility and Rochester, and then work with stakeholders and

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02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:19,900
key leadership to prioritize these down to four mobility areas where the city has the unique

1908
02:39:19,900 --> 02:39:24,980
opportunities to add value and working towards narrowing that down to one specific focus area

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02:39:24,980 --> 02:39:27,220
for work under this ICMA grant.

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02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:33,700
So this is showing the outcomes of that narrowing work through

1911
02:39:33,700 --> 02:39:39,340
engagement with stakeholders and city team members to elevate the four economic mobility areas

1912
02:39:39,340 --> 02:39:45,080
from those original 30 where that were identified as most impactful to residents opportunity

1913
02:39:45,080 --> 02:39:52,200
access and specifically where the city had some action lever to lead support or influence the work

1914
02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:54,540
which is shown here through these different colors.

1915
02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:58,540
So I'm not going to go through this with you tonight.

1916
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You're all very aware.

1917
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Our work that's being done in connected and reliable transit, affordable housing supply, where the city supports.

1918
02:40:06,680 --> 02:40:19,120
And these two other economic mobility areas that were elevated are areas more where the city would influence through bringing stakeholders together through policy, data driven approach and systems level alignment.

1919
02:40:21,760 --> 02:40:26,680
So even with narrowing into those four areas, that's still quite a lot of work to be done.

1920
02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:39,480
So what we're doing right now in this next stage is more in-depth and targeted stakeholder and partner engagement working with local experts and diving deeper into data sets to get to a much more detailed and prioritized

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a singular economic mobility focus area for work under the ICMA in grant.

1922
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So we use this decision matrix and conversations with stakeholders and leadership to start

1923
02:40:51,580 --> 02:40:57,200
narrowing process for the ICMA grant across those four general economic mobility themes.

1924
02:40:57,980 --> 02:41:03,020
Specifically, we were looking at the level of current momentum leadership both inside and outside

1925
02:41:03,020 --> 02:41:08,480
of the city in these different spaces, as well as the impact of grant resources to move the needle

1926
02:41:08,480 --> 02:41:13,940
in these areas. Through this analysis, conversations with stakeholders and leadership, career readiness

1927
02:41:13,940 --> 02:41:18,480
and workforce system alignment was chosen for further exploration, for pilot work under

1928
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:23,540
this grant. Completely recognizing that all four of these areas are highly interconnected and

1929
02:41:23,540 --> 02:41:29,160
important to economic opportunity access and work will continue with the gold increase connection,

1930
02:41:29,560 --> 02:41:33,960
alignment and focus collaborations to move towards that more sustainable and long-term

1931
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economic opportunity access. Before you go off of that slide in and I really appreciate it

1932
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this look at this. So with the current momentum for career readiness at moderate and level

1933
02:41:52,040 --> 02:41:59,760
of leadership, is that what you're looking at is focusing on bringing more momentum and what

1934
02:41:59,760 --> 02:42:05,740
is that look like and and having the city take a higher level of leadership.

1935
02:42:06,200 --> 02:42:10,280
Yeah, that would be correct. From our conversations, there wasn't really a lot of city

1936
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bandwidth dedicated toward creating this in work for system alignment, both with working

1937
02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:21,260
done in the city and alignment with external partners on work already being done. So we weren't

1938
02:42:21,260 --> 02:42:29,120
playing a huge role in that to date. So the plan is to play a bigger role in our visible role.

1939
02:42:29,120 --> 02:42:34,620
That's correct. Yeah. Okay. Because, and you and I have talked, and I've mentioned this to

1940
02:42:35,040 --> 02:42:42,120
Ms. Steinhouser as well, is I think the connections with our largest employer here in Rochester

1941
02:42:42,120 --> 02:42:51,660
and really understanding those pathways that they use and then kicking our position as the city

1942
02:42:51,660 --> 02:43:01,980
in making sure that those pathways are clear to our residents and neighbors so that there is a pathway

1943
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:09,960
for the residents of Rochester and Omsid County. Yeah, and we'll dive into those deeper conversations

1944
02:43:09,960 --> 02:43:13,980
as this work moves forward. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you.

1945
02:43:19,920 --> 02:43:22,660
Okay. So to start kind of understanding

1946
02:43:22,660 --> 02:43:28,000
what's going on in the career readiness and workforce space we did a deeper dive into labor force

1947
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data with a support of our partner at deed and really we were just looking at occupations

1948
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that were growing the most quickly in the area if they were actually creating economic mobility for

1949
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folks. So to do this we examine wages, household costs, our households that these supported

1950
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and education barriers to get into those occupations and found that they segmented into these

1951
02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:55,980
groups shown here on the slide, with only some of these occupations actually supporting economic

1952
02:43:55,980 --> 02:44:00,920
mobility based on this data and actually the majority likely supporting more stability

1953
02:44:00,920 --> 02:44:02,880
but not economic advancement.

1954
02:44:05,900 --> 02:44:09,920
I'm not going to spend too much time here, but we actually looked at the data and asked

1955
02:44:09,920 --> 02:44:14,260
who is accessing these mobility occupations and you can see there's distribution,

1956
02:44:19,740 --> 02:44:19,740
not equal

1957
02:44:19,740 --> 02:44:23,240
community engagement and resident voice to understand this more in-depth.

1958
02:44:24,800 --> 02:44:27,380
So as I mentioned, the city is not intending to own this work.

1959
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We don't want to be a workforce development provider.

1960
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We fully recognize that this is a community-wide

1961
02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:34,840
system spanning work that needs to be on in partnership.

1962
02:44:35,720 --> 02:44:39,620
With others in the community, this map is meant to be a preliminary look

1963
02:44:39,620 --> 02:44:41,740
at some of the partners working in this space.

1964
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And many of these have been engaged to date and preliminary discussions

1965
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:48,820
around economic mobility challenges that they are seeing

1966
02:44:48,820 --> 02:44:51,860
that's showing up with the people they serve.

1967
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Council Member Doring.

1968
02:44:54,980 --> 02:44:59,660
Just for clarification, are those representative organizations or is that the exhaustive?

1969
02:45:00,210 --> 02:45:05,430
This is very preliminary. Yep, needs to be further explored with engagement with these folks.

1970
02:45:08,840 --> 02:45:19,200
So from this early stage kind of preliminary engagement with folks in the workforce development space, this has also been helpful to start to create an asset map draft, very much still and draft form.

1971
02:45:19,720 --> 02:45:30,160
And this can help us start to understand the resident experience across the ecosystem, how these pieces connect together, where people enter the system or gaps infection can be, could be occurring.

1972
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So, from this labor market data in these stakeholder conversations, that's kind of converging

1973
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around these two main focus areas, more in-depth analysis of career pathway access barriers

1974
02:45:43,540 --> 02:45:45,760
and household stability barriers.

1975
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So, so far, the data has been telling us what's happening now, more in-depth stakeholder

1976
02:45:50,720 --> 02:45:55,400
engagement and adding in that resident voice is going to tell us why that's happening and

1977
02:45:55,400 --> 02:46:00,820
allow us to be toward more in-depth co-design and solution generation with the community.

1978
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:06,400
So that kind of leads us to where we are now. So maybe getting us to 630, we'll see.

1979
02:46:07,140 --> 02:46:13,060
But wrapping up the end of this refined stage where we've kind of narrowed in on this specific

1980
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economic mobility focus areas leading into community engagement and co-design to better understand

1981
02:46:19,320 --> 02:46:24,220
the specific barriers that are occurring in that space and add in the resident voice to explain

1982
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why this is happening.

1983
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While this is all occurring, we continue to engage with national experts at ICMA, continue

1984
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to have more in-depth conversations with stakeholders to have more in-depth and refined conversations

1985
02:46:38,900 --> 02:46:39,400
in these places.

1986
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The slide here, can you hold?

1987
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Oh, when you're done.

1988
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OK.

1989
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Pretty much done.

1990
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And then, yeah, continue to work across these for primary priority mobility areas.

1991
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Council member Fredericks.

1992
02:46:54,460 --> 02:46:55,540
And do you get through it?

1993
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:56,780
Yes, we're at the end.

1994
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So I enjoyed my visit with you.

1995
02:47:01,720 --> 02:47:04,480
And what I started thinking about after you left is,

1996
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she'll go through all of her people.

1997
02:47:06,400 --> 02:47:10,980
I wonder what her biggest cliche were here.

1998
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Mom and I'll be here.

1999
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This is a front verb thing I think we need to look at.

2000
02:47:14,560 --> 02:47:15,740
I'd like to hear what that is.

2001
02:47:18,590 --> 02:47:25,510
I think what has come to mind quickly to me is that

2002
02:47:26,890 --> 02:47:34,110
We have a lot of people in this space doing really great work, and it's just fragmented and

2003
02:47:34,110 --> 02:47:35,850
residents often don't know about it.

2004
02:47:35,950 --> 02:47:38,390
So I feel I'm not saying that all the solutions are there.

2005
02:47:38,490 --> 02:47:44,210
I'm saying we have some great gems to work from, and we just need to connect those pieces

2006
02:47:45,370 --> 02:47:48,670
together to make a more cohesive pathway for residents.

2007
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:54,430
Yeah, I used to go down to City Hall, everybody did in person, talked to somebody, and

2008
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And then they'd see, yeah, go here, go there.

2009
02:47:56,490 --> 02:47:58,350
Now people are sitting there at home on their phone

2010
02:47:58,350 --> 02:48:00,410
surf and on where do I go, where do I go?

2011
02:48:00,910 --> 02:48:03,610
And I think, like, as to the point, like, when you know,

2012
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where to go and makes it so much easy,

2013
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like, you just have that, you know, that access

2014
02:48:08,210 --> 02:48:10,050
that other people don't who don't know it.

2015
02:48:10,610 --> 02:48:13,690
So, to me, that's a huge piece of this is,

2016
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how can that be equitable to more people

2017
02:48:16,930 --> 02:48:18,550
to know how to navigate these pathways?

2018
02:48:19,090 --> 02:48:19,910
Yeah, maybe the point of making

2019
02:48:19,910 --> 02:48:21,630
I'm not needing just to say city hall.

2020
02:48:21,810 --> 02:48:22,370
It was anywhere.

2021
02:48:22,370 --> 02:48:25,770
you went and that worked in person and you talked to people and you made connections,

2022
02:48:25,890 --> 02:48:29,650
you could see it taste and feel it and you don't get pointed in the right direction.

2023
02:48:30,810 --> 02:48:35,010
Quite frankly, it's almost a lost art at this point, so.

2024
02:48:38,280 --> 02:48:39,600
And minister of his own?

2025
02:48:39,700 --> 02:48:44,620
Could I just also offer that I wanted to recognize that Amanda is right around her six-month mark,

2026
02:48:44,820 --> 02:48:54,400
and she's done an amazing job to bring us to this point, although she's been in the city of

2027
02:48:54,400 --> 02:49:01,660
lot of work condensed down into a few slides that help us to then focus in on to your point what could

2028
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actually hopefully move the needle to a degree in helping connect people to existing resources

2029
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:12,140
or understanding what the gap is, but just want to say thank you to her for doing all of this.

2030
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And it feels like way longer to me, but it's been six months. And she also honored her first

2031
02:49:16,920 --> 02:49:22,220
for a into at a study session actually can be flexible.

2032
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That's fair class on flexible and

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02:49:24,760 --> 02:49:25,560
session presentation.

2034
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A bridge her presentation.

2035
02:49:28,600 --> 02:49:29,740
So council member King.

2036
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Yeah, thanks for being here.

2037
02:49:31,540 --> 02:49:32,720
And again, I did me with you.

2038
02:49:32,720 --> 02:49:33,060
I appreciate.

2039
02:49:33,360 --> 02:49:37,110
Again, there is something about this that I get suspicious of with the idea of

2040
02:49:37,500 --> 02:49:40,160
like economic mobility, but I really like the thing you start out with.

2041
02:49:40,500 --> 02:49:42,660
And it started out with economic sustainability,

2042
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:46,380
moving to economic security, moving to like building wealth.

2043
02:49:46,380 --> 02:49:54,260
And I almost thought it missed the first one is like at risk starting out at risk and I am still unclear if like I mean

2044
02:49:54,260 --> 02:49:59,580
I know this is not like I really appreciate the cities not trying to take this in here. We're gonna do this, but if you had

2045
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:16,840
If you're going to do your key metrics, would it be based on the transit system would get better in support, or the housing system would get better in support, or would it be, we've, like, dramatically improved lives of seven families?

2046
02:50:18,120 --> 02:50:27,540
Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand and appreciate that point. And that's what we're getting to now with leadership in these areas, housing transit to develop more of those metrics.

2047
02:50:28,880 --> 02:50:37,860
But yes, I think to your point, we're in the process of thinking more in depth about what that will be, is it, you know, increased ridership, is it, are we looking at household cost burden?

2048
02:50:38,040 --> 02:50:40,000
So we're having those conversations now.

2049
02:50:40,360 --> 02:50:52,440
And I think they're all contributors too, but then, and I, and I always get caught up with this mobility, because I look at this mobility as being able to, you know, kind of build on what I build a career or build something.

2050
02:50:52,440 --> 02:50:58,320
My other comment is, and this is getting personal lately, but I don't like to see the

2051
02:50:58,320 --> 02:51:02,880
first time we talk about economic mobility, we talk about, let me help you start a business.

2052
02:51:03,340 --> 02:51:10,880
Because 85% of us get a W-2, that's what our careers are, and to say we're going to start

2053
02:51:10,880 --> 02:51:15,600
out with entrepreneurship, is a wonderful thing, and hopefully, you know, we could, some people

2054
02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:22,420
really do all with that, but it is ignoring the majority of the population, and I, and I

2055
02:51:22,420 --> 02:51:28,460
want to, I like that thing when the mobility occupations pay 50% or above, how do you get

2056
02:51:28,460 --> 02:51:33,800
people to start not just like saying like I just need a job, I got to go get the first job

2057
02:51:33,800 --> 02:51:37,780
and try to get them to build skills and those first jobs to get them to the next and get into

2058
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that. And that's the mobility piece that really interests me in this. It is daunting though to

2059
02:51:45,180 --> 02:51:52,240
about how to go about it. So that's the end. I couldn't agree with Councilmember King Moore,

2060
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and that's why I focused on our largest employer because I think, you know, there are those

2061
02:51:58,900 --> 02:52:07,560
that wants the ability, but a lot of our employers provide wages, increases, benefits,

2062
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:14,100
part of those benefits are our professional development and education and others that can then

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lead them to that economic mobility.

2064
02:52:17,940 --> 02:52:21,380
So what I was very excited about hearing from you

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is your answer to council member projects question,

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02:52:25,280 --> 02:52:29,100
which is in the connections need to be there.

2067
02:52:29,560 --> 02:52:35,440
And if we can be a conduit for helping make those connections

2068
02:52:35,440 --> 02:52:39,140
between those agencies that work in this area,

2069
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:42,280
workforce, workforce mobility, or workforce,

2070
02:52:42,280 --> 02:52:58,960
I don't want to say development because that's your other one, but the and the employers, I think then that is how I would see success in our part of it is making connections it can be lasting.

2071
02:52:59,840 --> 02:53:01,840
Council member Doring.

2072
02:53:02,780 --> 02:53:06,720
Yeah, I wanted to make sure I address the three questions you put on your last slide.

2073
02:53:06,720 --> 02:53:15,340
I like the prioritized economic mobility areas if I'm reading those on slide 19 of your presentation.

2074
02:53:16,640 --> 02:53:20,660
Focus area one career pathway access barriers and households stability barriers.

2075
02:53:21,300 --> 02:53:27,820
I would I would love to see some in depth work in in the trades.

2076
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:32,680
What that means for folks and economic stability and long term career pathways.

2077
02:53:32,680 --> 02:53:38,740
I'm fascinated by the work of equity across our economic space.

2078
02:53:39,220 --> 02:53:42,960
So I know that we kind of glossed over for a lack of time over the

2079
02:53:43,900 --> 02:53:45,860
the racial slide in here.

2080
02:53:46,060 --> 02:53:51,700
I'm interested in a more equitable workforce across racial barriers,

2081
02:53:51,740 --> 02:53:53,120
as well as gender barriers.

2082
02:53:53,620 --> 02:53:55,980
I'd love to see that information.

2083
02:53:55,980 --> 02:54:03,640
and for me success metrics would be a more equitable workforce.

2084
02:54:04,520 --> 02:54:15,120
So, obviously, that for me includes across those ethnic or racial barriers, as well as the gender gap in some of our occupations.

2085
02:54:15,540 --> 02:54:16,860
So, I hope that's helpful.

2086
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:18,760
Very, I appreciate that. Thank you.

2087
02:54:18,980 --> 02:54:19,880
Council Member Wall.

2088
02:54:21,810 --> 02:54:22,630
Thank you.

2089
02:54:22,630 --> 02:54:28,070
I had to, unless I missed it previously in the presentation,

2090
02:54:28,310 --> 02:54:31,630
I had to look at what Alice means from the,

2091
02:54:32,870 --> 02:54:34,310
but I, what?

2092
02:54:35,230 --> 02:54:35,590
Yeah.

2093
02:54:37,950 --> 02:54:38,770
Survival occupations.

2094
02:54:39,430 --> 02:54:43,810
I presume in economic mobility, we're not simply trying to eliminate.

2095
02:54:44,810 --> 02:54:48,030
I mean, that represents a huge part of our workforce.

2096
02:54:48,030 --> 02:54:57,290
We will always need servers, food prep, how do you work into the economic mobility ladder?

2097
02:54:57,630 --> 02:54:59,970
Yeah, no, I fully recognize that point.

2098
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:06,860
And I think this is just meant to say that based on the data, if this was the only income coming into a household,

2099
02:55:08,560 --> 02:55:14,900
it would not really be able to support even a single adult. So I think it's the understanding that what that means,

2100
02:55:15,680 --> 02:55:25,480
and that overall, that would have to be supplemented in some other way. So I think going back to, I can't quite remember when the point was made,

2101
02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:27,220
but thinking about how people transition

2102
02:55:27,220 --> 02:55:28,800
through those different stages,

2103
02:55:29,360 --> 02:55:31,520
but kind of just recognizing what that means

2104
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:33,420
to be in some of those occupations

2105
02:55:33,420 --> 02:55:36,800
and that there are other supports

2106
02:55:36,800 --> 02:55:38,000
that those people are needing.

2107
02:55:38,520 --> 02:55:42,640
And if I could add, and Amanda, you correct me from wrong.

2108
02:55:42,860 --> 02:55:43,920
So you're absolutely right.

2109
02:55:44,060 --> 02:55:46,460
Like we are hospitality-based community, right?

2110
02:55:47,160 --> 02:55:50,440
And so, but when you think about economic mobility

2111
02:55:50,440 --> 02:55:55,040
income and pathway is one component of economic

2112
02:55:55,040 --> 02:55:59,140
mobility and where we influence and directly lead are in the housing

2113
02:55:59,140 --> 02:56:05,160
pathways, the transportation pathways and so again thinking about what's

2114
02:56:05,160 --> 02:56:09,860
the work that we do that if someone's not going to get out of that survival

2115
02:56:09,860 --> 02:56:16,740
occupation how might we provide support for that household thinking about

2116
02:56:16,740 --> 02:56:17,980
those other pathways?

2117
02:56:20,450 --> 02:56:21,510
Councilmember Miller.

2118
02:56:22,530 --> 02:56:25,550
Yeah, just going through the questions or feedback.

2119
02:56:26,190 --> 02:56:27,310
Yes, these resonate.

2120
02:56:28,750 --> 02:56:31,870
Not so we have anything to add from the current framework.

2121
02:56:32,270 --> 02:56:34,810
I would love to know, especially looking at it's like 20,

2122
02:56:35,550 --> 02:56:39,590
and even beyond December 26 at what point the council should expect.

2123
02:56:40,050 --> 02:56:42,190
Check-ins or updates in this process.

2124
02:56:42,430 --> 02:56:44,250
I mean, often when we do development processes,

2125
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:45,230
we'll have stars.

2126
02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:47,570
This is when we should expect to hear back next.

2127
02:56:47,570 --> 02:56:49,450
And here would be the scope of that,

2128
02:56:49,450 --> 02:56:52,690
so helping us understand how we're involved, moving forward.

2129
02:56:53,350 --> 02:56:57,170
And then I think part of success would look like having

2130
02:56:57,170 --> 02:57:00,150
built out metrics, much like we had in the transit space.

2131
02:57:00,670 --> 02:57:01,830
So we understand what we're measuring,

2132
02:57:01,830 --> 02:57:03,410
and so that we can track that over time.

2133
02:57:03,470 --> 02:57:05,750
I think this scorecard of our public transit system

2134
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:09,630
was a good part of what measuring success

2135
02:57:09,630 --> 02:57:12,070
in one of these areas would look like or part of it.

2136
02:57:12,110 --> 02:57:14,990
And I would just wonder how we're adding these tangible ways

2137
02:57:15,570 --> 02:57:24,570
that you know equitable workforce is based on a specific set of measures and helping us understand

2138
02:57:24,570 --> 02:57:32,190
how we're measuring progress because otherwise it can feel quite vague and intangible to

2139
02:57:32,190 --> 02:57:38,170
understand whether we're making progress or not for whom. Yeah, no, when I completely appreciate that

2140
02:57:38,170 --> 02:57:43,970
and that's part of what we're working on now. We narrow in that focus how we can get more what's the

2141
02:57:43,970 --> 02:57:49,090
right where to put this stepping stones of kind of those metrics because economic mobility

2142
02:57:49,090 --> 02:57:54,070
right is it's generational. It's maybe five, 10 years. So that's what working on right now

2143
02:57:54,070 --> 02:58:00,450
as we narrow in that focus to identify more specific metrics that could be used. And I think

2144
02:58:00,450 --> 02:58:04,750
along with that, we can work alongside leadership to provide kind of that glide path for you all

2145
02:58:04,750 --> 02:58:06,890
and keep you all informed as this moves forward.

2146
02:58:09,320 --> 02:58:12,460
I want to go back to something council member

2147
02:58:12,460 --> 02:58:19,040
during said and he mentioned the trades and I look at, you know, the construction trades and, you

2148
02:58:19,040 --> 02:58:25,400
know, plumbers, carpenters, electricians, there is one we have a need or growing community

2149
02:58:25,400 --> 02:58:33,760
and there is economic mobility in those professions as people get furthered license than through

2150
02:58:33,760 --> 02:58:42,220
apprenticeships and so and I didn't see that up there and so is there a reason or is it something

2151
02:58:42,220 --> 02:58:45,900
that you can add into, I saw repairs.

2152
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:50,720
Oh, that's probably just because it wasn't,

2153
02:58:50,840 --> 02:58:52,060
Yeah, one of the ability.

2154
02:58:52,440 --> 02:58:56,440
And I, you know, yeah, I think the construction trade

2155
02:58:56,440 --> 02:59:00,280
should be something that you certainly should look at

2156
02:59:00,280 --> 02:59:05,780
and look at as a major piece of our economic.

2157
02:59:08,260 --> 02:59:12,740
No, I appreciate that, and I will say these were meant to more be more like wage brackets

2158
02:59:12,740 --> 02:59:18,880
more than definitive, these are the specific occupations that will be focusing on.

2159
02:59:18,980 --> 02:59:20,420
So I completely appreciate that.

2160
02:59:20,860 --> 02:59:25,500
And again, this is a finite period of time with this grant to be able to bring us to a certain

2161
02:59:25,500 --> 02:59:31,020
point, but part of the next exploration process that Amanda is sharing about also

2162
02:59:31,020 --> 02:59:39,360
there's continuing adjustment and refinement for the next few years of the Rochester Public

2163
02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:43,500
Schools strategic plan and I know they're focusing on some of that so this is an intended

2164
02:59:43,500 --> 02:59:48,600
to like replace all of those other things but also in order to have an outcome that's necessary

2165
02:59:48,600 --> 02:59:55,880
in order to deliver on the grant requirements we can't boil the ocean either doesn't mean the ocean

2166
02:59:55,880 --> 02:59:59,840
So it's this we can't keep boiling it later. All right

2167
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:12,500
Well, thank you. Great presentation in more ways than one. It was brief. It was worthwhile. And you got some new information for us.

2168
03:00:13,600 --> 03:00:16,800
All right. With that, study session schedule.

2169
03:00:18,360 --> 03:00:26,360
Thank you, Vice President. Council members, just a quick reminder. This coming Monday is the fifth Monday of August. So you will not have a study session or a council meeting.

2170
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:54,720
So, okay, so that's something that you're going to feel sad about, get prepared for that now and then the next study session following your September 9th, which is a Wednesday Council meeting, which is the week of Labor Day, is the City Administrators recommended supplemental budget. So additional feedback from what we heard here today as well as continuation of the discussion of those last slides and action plan update as well as credit card service fee.

2171
03:00:54,720 --> 03:01:01,760
So lots of aligned type of activities, then just did also want to point out forthcoming later

2172
03:01:01,760 --> 03:01:02,580
in September.

2173
03:01:02,980 --> 03:01:06,720
We have some updates on stormwater quality credit transfer policy.

2174
03:01:06,980 --> 03:01:13,140
You've seen that once before, as well as mode shift and housing access update.

2175
03:01:13,720 --> 03:01:14,080
All right.

2176
03:01:14,700 --> 03:01:15,720
We are adjourned.