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Please rise as you're able for the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the light of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation, I'm sure that you did as a little bit further, and you know, that's tomorrow.

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Thank you, and welcome everybody to our January 21st city council meeting.

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Before we get started, I just wanted to give a thank you to council member Miller and public works director Nemire for shoveling the walkway to get you all in the room here.

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So thank you.

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Some servant leadership there from council member Miller and just doing his job.

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So we open each of our meetings with an open comment period and this is an opportunity for anyone from the public to speak on items that we will not be taking public testimony during a public hearing later on the agenda.

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Each person has up to two minutes to speak for a total of 20 minutes.

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Now the council also has the ability if we go over those 20 minutes to to extend that period.

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I will be keeping track through two methods.

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One is the stop light here and you'll see a green it'll turn yellow.

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I think when you have a minute left and red when you are to stop.

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Also up to my left is the red digital clock and that will count down the two minutes.

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I'd also ask each speaker to be concise to allow more people to speak.

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And participants are also encouraged to limit comments generally to topics that are within the scope and jurisdiction of the council's ability to affect policy.

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Also members and staff do not respond to your comments during public comment but will instead follow up on any specific requests separately.

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If you have materials to share with the council please give them to the city clerk who's to my right and she will distribute them to the council.

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You will be invited up in the order you signed up and we will start with Kyle Pike.

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Council president.

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Members of the city council.

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My name is Kyle Pike.

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I'm a disabled combat veteran and a student with a state university and I come before you with a very simple problem.

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Plug in your city.

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You have the Gestapo forces of an illegal tyrannical federal government seizing power in my home and corrupting the good will of an entire state.

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Plug in people of color as if they were other to nothing but an alien in illegal.

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And you have done nothing here to this moment to stop the tyranny.

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I never served to witness in my home.

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Rochester.

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Is a community for Somali Americans.

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For Irish and German Americans.

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For Italian Americans.

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For all Americans.

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Legal.

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Or otherwise.

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And you are called tonight.

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By a veteran of the armed forces of this country whose brothers and sisters are being plagued right now.

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Because of the color of their skin.

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You are demanded here forward.

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You take action to prevent the Gestapo Nazi forces illegally invading my home.

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I did not serve for you to allow tyranny to destroy Rochester.

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I served to prevent it.

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Thank you Mr. Pike.

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I'm going to just say that you know we're going to hear some very impassioned speeches and we.

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We need for you to refrain from applause.

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It allows the speakers for us to hear from more speakers.

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So please try to refrain even when there are very impassioned people speaking.

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So with that we're going to go to Jared.

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Jared.

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How my name is Jared.

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I'm a resident of Rochester.

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Good evening Mayor Norton.

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Council members.

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The residents of Rochester and fellow Americans.

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It's an honor to speak with you tonight to share my thoughts about the moment we're in.

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To acknowledge the stress tension and fear that so many of us are feeling right now.

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In particular, I want to acknowledge the acute pain, undo stress and fear of felt by members of our immigrant communities.

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Our Somali brothers and sisters.

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Our Mexican neighbors and anyone who feels vulnerable scared or as though their rights are being questioned or their dignity is being tested.

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I do not pretend to have the answers nor am I here to criticize you.

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I am here as an individual as a father, a husband, and a friend.

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To pose a simple set of questions for us all to consider.

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What kind of city, county, state, and country do want to live in?

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What values do we cherish?

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What is our response to rhetoric meant to divide and to mean?

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What are our children thinking when they see videos of people being taken from their homes, their vehicles, their jobs, and even their places of worship?

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When my three sons ask me, dead, why is this happening?

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Why is my friend missing school?

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What do I tell?

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Do I explain policy?

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Do I ignore the question?

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Do I change the subject?

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Or do I teach some of the values and principles I try to embody and hope for them to emulate?

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Humility, empathy, rational thought, democracy, friendship, kindness to the stranger, help for the needy.

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To I model cruelty, to I brag, boast, or pontificate about my ideologies or my prejudices.

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So I ask those of you on this council and government who have been charged with upholding the constitution and serving the greater good to reflect on these very questions.

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I ask you to use your authority to set a moral example worthy of the trust placed in you.

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Because it's always the right time to do the right thing.

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Thank you.

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Next we have Toby Holiday.

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All right.

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Hi, council.

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My name is Toby Holiday.

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I'm a Rochester resident and a member of workers strike back.

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In the last two weeks I have personally observed ice agents driving recklessly in our city, running red lights,

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speeding egregiously on our roads and driving carelessly through our neighborhoods.

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They have taken workers from construction sites and other workplaces.

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They have ripped our neighbors from their families.

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They've also aggressively claimed that they quote don't need a fucking warrant to be on private property.

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These dogs are dangerous and negligent.

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They are not welcome here and the longer this council goes without acting, the more of a threat they pose to our community.

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We demand that you declared today that the city of Rochester is a sanctuary city and will truly stop any in all collaboration with ice.

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We demand that you direct the city attorney to prosecute civil and legal offenses committed against our neighbors by ice.

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Ice also routinely uses local surveillance databases like driver location data and public CCTV cameras to track people with the help of local police departments.

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We demand that the city council and all drone and camera surveillance projects that can be exploited by ice.

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More broadly to fight back against Trump and the billionaire classes agenda, we urgently need mass protests and strike action nationally.

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That's why workers strike back is supporting the day of mass protest and strike this Friday, January 23rd.

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Back in 2017 when Trump announced his first Muslim travel ban, socialist city council member Shama Sawaan and fellow workers and socialist in Seattle.

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Shut down sea tack airport, preventing planes from taking off or landing, forcing a reversal on that ban.

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This is the type of militant action needed.

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This is why workers strike back voted to run Shama for US Congress as she is explicitly calling to shut down ice and all the tension centers.

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Shama's opponent, democratic congressman.

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Thank you.

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I'm wrapping up.

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Thank you.

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I'm smitten.

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I'm smitten.

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I'm smitten.

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I'm smitten.

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I'm smitten.

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I'm smitten.

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But in 2002 to form ice as part of the Homeland Security Act, along with the majority of Democrats in Congress.

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You have to stop.

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Two minutes is insulting to all of us here.

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We will let you because of the abject failures of both Democrats and Republican parties.

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We are in dire need of a new party for working people in immigrants.

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If you agree, I urge you to get involved with workers strike back and join us in fighting back against ice.

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Solidarity and free Palestine.

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Now I'm going to ask folks to please.

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That is our role as two minutes.

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And it just allows us to hear from more folks.

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Next is Susan Robinson, Denlow.

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I'm a retired educator, specifically from K-12, Consol.

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I have listened to students concerned as a part of my supportive position.

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I'm sure staff are listening now because children and young adults have much to be concerned about, specifically how eggs is influencing and interfering in their lives.

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At a protest at Mayo High School this last week a teacher shared that half of her ethnic students are no longer showing up for school.

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They are afraid that they will be taken on their way to or from school or they don't leave home because they're afraid that their parents will have been taken while they were in school.

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At the same protest I was walking to my car and two girls in front of me were sharing that their two friends, ethnic friends who were approached by ice on a field trip.

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Our Rochester High School students had a protest or a walk out last week and objection to ice in our city.

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Our youth are very savvy, they're smart, they're committed, and they're protective of their classmates and friends.

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They should not have to deal with these issues.

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In the Minneapolis area at a rally, I heard an elementary school parents say that she was asked by her principal to undergo a vetting process so she could qualify to take the students left at school, whose parents had been taken by ice.

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In addition to my concerns for children and young adults I visited businesses asking them to become a fourth amendment workplace posting a sign that states ice is not allowed in their establishment and cannot take a staff or customer without an appropriate warrant.

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I'm sure you're aware of some of those who have been taken from our city, the restaurants, the construction site, the Mayo ramp.

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The restaurants are now hiring family and driving to staff to inform work to stay open.

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I have four asked, one, publicly called to publicly call for ice to leave our city and county and state following the mayor's request.

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Prohibit use of government property for their operations, three contact congressional officials to say no more ice funding by the federal government.

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This needs to be done by January 30th.

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And for us. Thank you, ma'am.

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One, twenty three, economic shutdown.

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Thank you. Next three. Next we have James Smith.

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Good evening, gentlemen.

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I have a simple request. I would like to have the sewer line extended on 11th Avenue southwest. I sent you all an email.

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We seem to have gotten lost in the mix over the years because the LC industrial part has sewer everywhere, but our four lots do not.

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So I met with staff and they were very helpful. Aaron Aaron. Aaron looks down was very helpful.

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And I'd like to request the city extend the sewer in coordination with future redevelopment.

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We have ten acres on the exit to the airport.

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And I think it's a beautiful site for a commercial venture such as a hotel or whatever.

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But we need to have the sewer line put in somewhere in the next five years because we'd like to develop redevelop the ten acre.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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And I am a veteran.

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Thank you.

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Next we have Emma Smith.

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Hello, I'm a member of workers strike back and I'm here tonight because ice agents are terrorizing our cities.

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Thousands of immigrant working and poor people are being abducted innocent people have been murdered.

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A bi-partisan authorization of $900 billion for weapons and war. Not cooperating is not enough. Rochester police recently posted that they defer immigration enforcement to authorized federal agents.

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It kind of sounds like they're just allowing federal thugs to carry out violent KKK values in our community. So who is defending us against this stark imbalance of power?

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The Democrats and Republicans on this council have not raised a finger to oppose ICE and by default are helping them. We urgently need mass protests and strike actions, and it is up to all of us to build movements like the one being organized for this Friday, the 23rd.

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This council seems more interested in deliberating, which big business boots need the most leaking.

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They could announce that the city of Rochester is stopping all collaboration with ICE, including the sharing of information and data on residents.

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The passiveness of this council makes them in accomplices to white supremacy and all attacks on working people. This will be remembered when we're voting on the four seats up for reelection this year.

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We know what is possible based on the wins of former social and city councilwoman, Shama Sowan, whose wins have already been spoken about this evening.

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And she's now running for U.S. Congress, bringing the same fighting approach abolish ICE and the U.S. military occupations and the genocide in Gaza.

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And to anyone listening, please join our fight at workersstrikeback.org.

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Thank you. Next, next, next we have David Montecwin.

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David Montecwin.

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So my name is David Montecwin. I'm also a member of workersstrikeback. First of all, an extent solidarity with every activist and young person who is spoken out against ICE this evening.

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And every activist who is face the rest for speaking out against ICE.

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Trump's ICE is terrorizing American cities.

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A peaceful activist and 37 year old mother Renee Good was murdered by ICE and Minneapolis just last week.

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The public approval rating for ICE has plummeted since Trump took office and a majority of American people now disapprove of ICE.

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Hundreds of thousands of working-class people have taken to the streets across the nation to demand ICE out of their states and to shut down the detention centers and abolish ICE.

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But despite these powerful movements of immigrants and working people, the Democrats at both the congressional and the local level have not raised one singer against ICE.

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The Rochester City Council could declare today that their cities will stop all collaboration with ICE, including ICE routinely using local surveillance databases like driver location data and public CCTV cameras that others have spoken about tonight.

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They could sponsor and pass legislation criminalizing the infringement of first amendment protected activities in relation to ICE protests.

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And they could make it clear that any ICE officer who attacks an immigrant or any other person will be held fully accountable.

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But what is most paramount of all of this is that both local Democrats and those in Congress could have been using their prominent public platforms, which can reach millions of working people and immigrants to launch mass protests and civil disobedience, but they have not done that.

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Working people need the kind of leadership and fight back that workers strike back Founders Socialist City Councilwoman Shama Sawaan.

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Brought in her decade as a socialist on the Seattle City Council.

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That's why I'm a member of workers strike back and I urge any working or young person who's watching this to go to workers strike back the ORG.

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Thank you, Mr. Now.

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Thank you, Mr. Monica.

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Next we have Isaac Johnson.

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Good evening. My name is Isaac Johnson. I'm a resident here in Rochester also CEO of the healthcare organization that's located here as well.

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I want to tell the City Council that ICE is not just impacting residents, but it's also a health issue.

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We've seen at our health center about 86% of our patients are not showing up to their appointments just because they're afraid to leave their house.

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We've had so many conversations with patients where they're afraid to even go to the pharmacy, pick up medications.

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These are diabetic patients that need their medicines.

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We've really had to change our strategy of how we actually care for patients.

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It's really sad to see that we're actually having to mobilize and actually get out into the community.

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We're having to use extensive manpower hours to really reach the community and make sure that they're still healthy.

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Because they're not coming into clinic because they're not going into pharmacy. They are not getting the healthcare that they need.

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This is a serious concern and I really hope that City Council will take this under consideration and act to make sure that we can make sure that our residents of Rochester and this community is safe.

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Thank you so much for your timing consideration.

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Thank you.

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We're roughly at 20 minutes.

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We have 12 more speakers that have signed up.

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Is there a motion to suspend the rules and hear from the remainder of the speakers on the sign-up sheet?

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So moved.

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A moved by council member of Frederick, second by council member Doring.

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All in favor say hi.

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All right.

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Opposed say nay.

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Motion passes.

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Next up we have Mr. Peter Veving.

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Hi. Hi. My name is Pete and I'm a resident at Ward 5 in Ward 5.

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I want to thank the council for this opportunity to speak.

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I'll be brief.

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We are being overrun by ice.

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Our immigrant community is under attack.

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We can't let this slide.

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I urge you to find ways to preserve our freedom and secure our rights no matter what color our skin is.

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If we don't act now, this is just the start of something terrible.

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We have to act.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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Thank you.

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Next we have Casey Hill.

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Hello. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to speak.

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I'm here because I'm a resident physician in Rochester, Minnesota.

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And many of my patients have stopped showing up to their appointments for fear of ice.

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And I'm terrified that one of them will face irreparable harm or even die because they're not able to access critical medical care to treat entirely preventable diseases.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next we have.

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Peep.

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Pefree Johnson.

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I probably ruined the first name.

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Pefree.

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Peers.

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There you go.

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So I'm just going to say nothing.

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Nothing that I really have to say nobody everybody else has already said what I'm thinking.

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But I just don't want anybody collaborating with them.

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And without resistance, there are no standards.

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That is all.

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Thank you, Mr. Johnson.

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Next we have.

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Sully.

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Mohammed.

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So that.

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Mohammed.

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Good evening.

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I'm not here to talk about policy.

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I'm here to talk about fear trauma and belonging.

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In our community children experiencing terror before they even have words for it.

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And our parents, many of them refugees are relieving horrors.

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They believe they escaped forever.

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They fled civil war.

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They survived tyrannical dictators.

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They watched loved ones beating disappeared killed by a man who used fear as a weapon.

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Now those images are back same gear, same intimidation, same terror.

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Only now it's happening outside apartments near hospitals in our city.

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We are told, if you have documents, if you are legal, you have nothing to fear.

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But that is not what it's happening.

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Another Ahmed, a 23 year old Minnesota born woman,

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stepped outside our aunts apartment to get seizure medication.

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She showed her ID.

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She said, I'm a U.S. citizen.

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That is not matter.

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She was rushed by a dozen men detained.

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And the terror triggered a shock inducing seizure.

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Citizens are being stopped.

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Indigenous people are being questioned.

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And they are in their own land.

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Not because of what they did.

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But because they fit a profile.

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And so I go home and face the hardest questions of my life.

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What do I tell my 14 year old?

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My 11 year old?

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My 9 year old princess.

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How do I tell them they belong here?

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They are not garbage.

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When the system around them, say otherwise.

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When enforcement is based on appearance instead of evidence.

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Legality becomes meaningless.

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Citizens as she becomes conditional.

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And fear becomes universal.

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Parents are choosing between healthcare and safety.

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Between food and rent.

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Programs caring for our most vulnerable children and women.

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And elders are on pause.

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Let me be clear.

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Silence in moments like this is not neutral.

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It is complicit.

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We are not asking for sympathy.

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We are asking for action.

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We need this city to move beyond words.

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To take concrete steps that protect residents.

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Project racial profiling.

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And a farm clearly and publicly that every child in Rochester belongs.

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Because a city is judged not by how it treats the powerful.

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But by how it protects its children.

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Thank you, Mr. Mohammed.

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Next we have Gloria Torres Herbe.

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Gloria Torres Herbeck.

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Hello. Good evening.

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Thank you for having us.

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This is Norton and Board members.

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My name is Gloria Torres Herbeck.

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And here as a many hands.

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As a teacher.

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And as a member of the Alliance.

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Whichicanos and his Spanish and Latin Americans.

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I am a Mexican American.

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I didn't even hear.

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Since 1992.

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And it's so hard to see the city.

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Turning into what is now.

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Sorry.

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I'm a cryer.

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And this is not an exception.

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It's so hard to see my students.

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No show in the school.

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Just because.

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Eyes is fight up first up.

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Eyes is outside their homes.

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Because eyes may be taking.

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Take their parents and not be able to come back home.

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Sorry.

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And parents are in denial.

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They think that this is going to happen.

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So they're not getting ready.

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They're not prepared.

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We work as a members.

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We work.

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Very hard to get them ready to have all the documents ready.

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We have a free friend that she was there trying to get.

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Not everything.

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Not everything.

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And it didn't happen.

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And now.

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A class is trying to help and support the Latino community that we've been working for 20 years.

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We are trying to do a humanitarian work.

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And even doing that.

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We feel the fear to be target.

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So here is an example of why I carry on my phone.

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I have my red card and my passport and we saw to protect my students.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Just.

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Just.

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Latino community.

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As a community member.

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I do Latino fest.

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And now I really.

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I'm going to be doing Latino fest or not because of the situation.

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So I ask the.

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The board trying to see how you guys can support us.

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How this is going to affect everybody.

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And the financial.

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A burning that is going to come.

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Thank you.

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Next.

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Next.

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We have Samuel.

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Samuel Corta.

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Mayor Norton.

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Council members.

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My name is Samuel Cortauer.

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I'm a resident of Ward 6.

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I speak here tonight.

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My very first council meeting not for myself.

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But for those who do not feel safe to come here tonight.

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I'm here for my neighbor.

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Also in Ward 6.

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She's young mother.

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Born in American citizen.

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And she will not take her daughter to preschool without both of their passports because of ice

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harassment.

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Women and children are living with a justified fear that aren't men and masks will box their car in and traumatize them because of their skin tone or their accent.

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She feels trapped.

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And may very well be.

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If not for her white partner.

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Who can still run errands without fear of racial profiling.

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And I ask myself.

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Is this who we are?

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Is this America?

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Is this great?

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Is this winning?

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As a neighbor.

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As an army veteran.

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As a human being.

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My heart cries out for them.

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And it demands action.

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It demands us all to speak up for our neighbors.

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Ice out of Rochester schools.

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Ice out of Rochester communities.

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Additionally, I implore leaders across the state to call for an investigation into the suspected use of hexaclory ethane to disperse nonviolent crowds in Minneapolis earlier today.

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It was removed from military stocks.

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As a smoke agent for its dangerous effects on the lungs and liver.

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And it has been used today for those very same effects.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Next, we have Jan Weber.

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So current sitting members of the city council, hello, my name is Jen, and I shouldn't be here.

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I should be my warm-house with my comfy pants on, like the great introvert, I am. I have never been very active in local politics.

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What I'm here tonight, out of my comfort zone, using my voice and my privilege for those who cannot safely be here themselves.

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I'm demanding that Ice, Ice, immigration and customs, enforcement, beer, moving and restricted from operating within the city of Rochester.

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I personally have not been afflicted by Ice, but I'm deeply afraid for the day's ad.

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For myself as part of the disabled population, for my neighbors, my community, and the city.

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Rochester's repeatedly stated that it is a little welcoming and inclusive city.

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In the city, as current policies, limiting local law enforcement, cooperation with federal immigration enforcement,

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and forming city resources are meant to serve residents, not to instill fear.

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These commitments matter only if they are enforced fully in without exception, and now is not the time to be complicit.

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Ice has become a rogue agency whose tactics, the unwarranted stops arrest in schools and churches,

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the repeated use of excessive force, directly contract Rochester's stated values and public safety goals.

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Allowing Ice to operate here undermines trust in local government and law enforcement,

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which are most vulnerable residents at risk.

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Ice claims it exists to retain known by the criminal school, here legally, and that is not what we are seeing.

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In one week's time, I've seen mass agents kick indoors.

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I've seen peaceful protesters assaulted by pepper spray at close range.

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I've seen American citizens detained based only under skin tone or accent.

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I've seen Native Americans assaulted and detained.

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Like many others here around the world.

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I saw the killing of Renee Good.

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All in one week's time.

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And all in our backyard.

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I've seen political and procedure disregarded, and I've seen constitutional rights ignored as if it did not exist.

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We can act and don't ignore or try to justify any of the brute actions.

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Thank you, Ms. Weber.

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Next we have Karen McLaughlin.

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Ms. McLaughlin, go ahead.

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Good evening, Mayor Norton and City Council members, City Council presidents.

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It's nice to be here.

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I am here to, first, I want to give my disclaimer.

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I'm speaking on my own today, not representing any organizations that I'm involved with.

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But I'm here to bring a voice for the voiceless to this council.

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In my law practice, I work with a lot of people who experience poverty.

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I also work with a lot of young people and many people who are discriminating, experiencing discrimination.

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And I bring for you the clear message to encourage you to use your collective voice

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to demand isolated Rochester, homestead county, and Minnesota.

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I'm also here to remind you that if there are any violations of constitutional rights,

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which I believe that there are, I would encourage you to use your voice to ask that the federal government defundice.

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In reminding you about constitutional rights, it's important to know that our constitutional rights in our US constitution apply to everyone standing on our soil.

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I'm here tonight to speak for parents of US children who are US citizens.

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These people are raising their families.

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They're not committing violent crime.

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There is a system in our government in our court system to adequately address people who are at needing,

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because of committing crime to be deported.

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Those people are going directly from prison to ICE custody.

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They're not out in our neighborhoods.

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And there's no reason for ICE to be there to conceivably be detaining people.

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There is no constitutional basis for what ICE is doing.

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They're stopping people, seizing them, detaining them, and entering people's homes.

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They're going to open an obvious act of discrimination and it's based on racial profiling.

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That causes fear in our community and it's dangerous.

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Thank you, Ms. McLaughan.

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And I would ask you to use your collective voice.

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It's we can no longer be silent.

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Thank you.

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Next.

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Next we are is more.

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Hold you.

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Say it.

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Is it.

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Say it.

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Sir.

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Please.

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Please, sir.

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Is our.

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Hold.

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Deave.

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I'm probably screwing up your name.

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Esther.

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Sorry, I scribbled my name.

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My name is Esmerhodzik.

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And I am a member of Ward 2 within the city of Rochester.

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And the big thing.

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The big overarching thing with what everybody wants to say is whether or not you realize it now.

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This might be the easiest political decision any of you will ever have to make in your career.

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The.

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The noise is.

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Defending.

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Across the entire city across the entire state.

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Just speaking from my background.

478
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I come from a Bosnia American household.

479
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
I was the first person in my family.

480
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That was born here in America.

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My older siblings and my parents.

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Lived.

483
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Indescribable things.

484
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At least that's when I thought.

485
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
My father.

486
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000
He knows what it's like to have.

487
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Somebody knock on your knock on your door.

488
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000
And suddenly you're in a camp far away for three months.

489
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
And I don't want to see that happen to anybody.

490
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
I know ever again.

491
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,000
My parents didn't endure that for me to see what's going on right now.

492
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,000
It is completely and utterly unfair.

493
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,000
And whether or not this may seem like a difficult decision for any of you to make right now.

494
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
A year from now five years from now ten years from now.

495
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,000
It's going the conversation is going to be overwhelmingly against everything that's happening.

496
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,000
It already is I have been canvassing businesses with many other people.

497
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000
In this room over the past two weeks.

498
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000
And the response has been overwhelmingly anti-ice.

499
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
And this is business owners we're talking about.

500
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
And the regular people we spoke into it's been about the same.

501
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
We.

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00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Me and the organization with Isaiah are explicitly demanding that you all of you make a public stance against.

503
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:15,000
ISIS presence in Rochester and in Minnesota and to shut down all but essential operations on Friday January 23rd.

504
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Thank you.

505
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Thank you.

506
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Next we have Houston Lincoln.

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Houston Lincoln.

508
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Hello.

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
My name is Kirsten Lincoln.

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:44,000
I'm a resident of Ward 2 and I'm here and people have already talked about the fear at schools.

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,000
And I can say as my kids were raised in the Rochester school system.

512
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
And I drive by fall well and I see parents out there patrolling.

513
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,000
I think well what else could this city do to help the schools feel safe?

514
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000
That's kind of a no brainer if there's something that could be done.

515
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000
I also am here because for the past ten years I've been involved in a food mission that goes out to Southeast Marion Road.

516
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:25,000
And I have to say that it is the worst thing ever to know that there are people who need food and they are not coming.

517
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:39,000
They're not coming and channel one has reported what's where partners with channel one that they are people are not coming so we have you heard about health people are not coming for their health people are not coming to school people are not eating.

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00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:50,000
So I would like to just double down on the things that have been asked of you to take some kind of stand if you can help with the January what is this Friday.

519
00:38:50,000 --> 00:39:04,000
January the Friday thing that would be awesome if there's anything you guys can do to help the schools please if there's anything that the police force can do to help our citizens feel safe please please do it now.

520
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Thank you very much for your time.

521
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Next next we have Roochie Gupta.

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00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Roochie Gupta.

523
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Good evening madam mayor.

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:31,000
My name is Roochie Gupta a brief background about me.

525
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:39,000
I immigrated from India in 1993 and after moving around a little bit and in the process securing a green card.

526
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:46,000
I moved to Rochester in 2002 and became a naturalized citizen of America in 2007.

527
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:59,000
While in Rochester I raised two children and today my daughter is an environmental lawyer and my son is a second year neurology resident at Mayo Clinic.

528
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:07,000
I work at Mayo Clinic as a statistical programmer and I'm also proud to serve my community as chair of planning and zoning commission.

529
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:18,000
I'm here today because on afternoon of Friday January 9 I was headed downtown for an appointment when an unmarked SUV started tailing me from a distance.

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00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000
I suspiciously kept an eye on it and stopped at a red light.

531
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,000
It put up right behind me where I could see the driver in my right in my surgery room mirror.

532
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Sure enough after a few moments he picked up his walkie lucky like so I saw him like this and he spoke into it which is what confirmed my suspicions.

533
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
I was being watched and I was afraid to park and get out.

534
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
I caught my partner at home and I alerted him.

535
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
I asked him to text me a picture of my passport which he did.

536
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:53,000
He stayed with me on the phone and when the light changed I turned left but the ice agent did not.

537
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000
I felt relieved but still was rattled and drove around a bit to make sure that there were no others.

538
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Finally I went to my appointment but upon return scanned the area thoroughly before I approached my car.

539
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,000
I now check everywhere before I leave the house or even before I let my dogs out.

540
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:16,000
I feel fear in my own community and I see it reflected when I go out to restaurants that have started locking their doors.

541
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Rochester by its character is a safe healthy and an international city and I implore to our leadership to get ice out of here.

542
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Thank you.

543
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Thank you.

544
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Next we have Maui Dennis.

545
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:39,000
All right. Thank you for your time.

546
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
So you have a packed agenda tonight.

547
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
I don't see anything about ice or any of this on the agenda.

548
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Please put it on there.

549
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
My name is Maui Dennis.

550
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
I'm a former elected official.

551
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
I sat right there on the sea council a year ago.

552
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:57,000
I want to say that it is your job as elected officials who represent the citizens of our city.

553
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,000
We have a huge amount here who are vocalizing.

554
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Let's scrap what the executive branch.

555
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Let's focus on what the legislative branch wants to do and make this a priority.

556
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
We need people who people are scared.

557
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,000
You look at Brooklyn Park who their police chief has made a public stance because their

558
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,000
off service officers have been pulled over by ice.

559
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,000
We need tangible things done here on city council.

560
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Not platitudes, right?

561
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,000
We need things.

562
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Not just statements, right?

563
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Or fear mongering.

564
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
We need city council to take action, make city policies.

565
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,000
I know from a former elected official that we you hold the purse strings of the police department.

566
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000
The purse strings of the entire city, right?

567
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,000
You need to make sure that you allocate funds for training.

568
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Path legislation to make sure that this is a sanctuary city.

569
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Other laws that have been mentioned.

570
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000
I echo everything that has been mentioned today.

571
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,000
This is an urgent time in our society beyond a correct side of history.

572
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000
There are two pastors.

573
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000
You know that two pastors right here on the council, right?

574
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,000
You know that thoughts and prayers work in churches, but it doesn't work here.

575
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:17,000
We need to make sure that legislators do their jobs and represent the people.

576
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Please, please take action.

577
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
You know, the rhetoric.

578
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,000
But constitutional rights are not suggestions.

579
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,000
And that is really important that we uphold that on a local level.

580
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
You have a lot of citizens here.

581
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000
A huge pack crowd.

582
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Listen to them.

583
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000
You should also do your work.

584
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000
But also prioritize your job as a representational democracy.

585
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Thank you, Miss Dennis.

586
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Thank you.

587
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Thank you.

588
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Thank you all.

589
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Thank you all.

590
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
That is everyone who's signed up.

591
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000
I just wanted to also mention that we will take the role.

592
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:06,000
And then we will have some of our city leaders in administrative zones city attorney.

593
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,000
Spend her Craig the mayor and the police chief speak to.

594
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000
The issue that was dominating our public.

595
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,000
A common period.

596
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000
So with that, clerk Caso, could you please call the role?

597
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Good evening.

598
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Councilmember Keene.

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00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Here.

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Councilmember Miller.

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00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Here.

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00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Councilmember Wall.

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00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Here.

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00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Councilmember Frederick.

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00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Here.

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00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Councilmember Palmer.

607
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Here.

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00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Councilmember Doring.

609
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Here.

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00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Council President Schubert.

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00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Here.

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00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Mayor Norton.

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00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Present.

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00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
And with that, city administrator's.

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00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,000
Thank you.

616
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Council President.

617
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Council members.

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00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Mayor Norton members of the public.

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00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000
As the person entrusted to guide day-to-day city.

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00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Operations.

621
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000
I typically begin.

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00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Each city administrator's report by thanking our teammates for their work.

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00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
And for showing up every day.

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00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000
With respect integrity, service, and excellence for our community.

625
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
And typically, we do not address open comment.

626
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
But these are not typical times.

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00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,000
We've heard clearly from community members, and in recent weeks, the city's community vision begins with a simple, but powerful statement. Rochester is a city that cares. A city where all people are treated with dignity and respect. It is important to say this plainly. That is not what all members of our community are experiencing or feeling right now.

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00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:40,000
We know that some residents are anxious, afraid, and uncertain about the present and the future. Some feel hesitant to speak or seek help or unsure about where to turn.

629
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:50,000
It matters that we name the reality and that we respond to it with care. I'm grateful to our elected leaders for their recognition of that need.

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00:45:50,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Rochester has long been a community where people look out for one another, helping a neighbor, supporting local businesses, welcoming those who arrive here during some of the hardest moments of their lives and embracing those calling Rochester home for the first time.

631
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:16,000
That spirit of care is part of who we are. The city of Rochester organization remains committed to serving all members of our community, especially in times of uncertainty, our roles to be steady.

632
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Reliable, a reliable and steady presence. That means continuing to provide essential services, clear information, and support rooted in dignity, respect, and compassion.

633
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:36,000
This moment affects all of us, and it's also important to acknowledge that some members of our community are more deeply impacted.

634
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Centering their needs is not separate from our mission. It is fundamental to it. How we share information and how we show up may feel different than normal because this is not a normal moment.

635
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Being a city that cares means recognizing when our values are not being felt by everyone.

636
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Our community vision is not aspirational for us. It is our responsibility and we as the organization serving the community take it seriously every day.

637
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Through study service, clear communication, and compassion, and how we serve.

638
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,000
We will continue to show up for our community of that you can be sure.

639
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:26,000
In moments when not everyone feel supported or secure our work is to create stability, where we can, and to ensure our actions reflect the dignity and respect every person deserves.

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00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,000
As a local government, our responsibility is to remain steady and focused on the people we serve.

641
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:39,000
We will continue to meet this moment with care, provide clear and reliable services, and respond thoughtfully as circumstances of all.

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00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:46,000
These are the expectations that have been shared with our team and what you can expect from city provided services.

643
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:53,000
And I believe Mr. Sunnar Craig has some additional information he would like to share.

644
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Thank you City Administrator Zelms, Council President Schubering, Council members Mayor Norton, members of the public. Thank you for being here this evening.

645
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:13,000
As the Rochester City Attorney, I'm certainly not in a position to address all of your questions or concerns, but I want to speak to a few.

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00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:22,000
I and we have heard from many of you over these past few weeks and before that certainly as well.

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00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Thank you for sharing your experiences, your perspective, your life and family stories, your pain, your fears, your humanity.

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00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,000
I would like to share a few points from my office and from my perspective as the Rochester City Attorney.

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Along with the Olmsted County Attorney's Office, the Rochester City Attorney's Office has a dedicated and busy team handling many criminal matters that occur within the city jurisdiction.

650
00:48:50,000 --> 00:49:01,000
These include domestic assaults, protection order violations, property crimes, DUIs, traffic, and many other common day crimes that reflect real life public safety dynamics of our community.

651
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:11,000
As has always been true, we continue to be committed to serving victims of crime, regardless of immigration status.

652
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:24,000
It is vital to our work, vital to community safety, the community members trust local law enforcement enough to call when they are in need.

653
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:39,000
We will continue to do everything we can to ensure that victims of crime feel safe coming forward to seek protection, pursue justice and access the criminal justice system.

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00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:53,000
We do not ask victims or witnesses about immigration status, but we are mindful of the concerns and fears faced by vulnerable immigrant communities.

655
00:49:53,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Many in my office and I do this work because we believe deeply in the rule of law and in the integrity of our justice system despite its flaws.

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00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:11,000
The rule of law, as we've heard tonight, is fundamental to a functioning society.

657
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:22,000
We cannot normalize racial profiling or systemic violations of civil liberties or the dehumanizing rhetoric that has become far too common.

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00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:35,000
The city has built out a resource page that includes various resource links, immigration legal resources FAQs and also a link to an incident form through the Attorney General's Office.

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00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Please, if you are aware of an incident of concern, document it through that process, if you are comfortable doing so.

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00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:57,000
My office will continue to work closely with the Rochester Police Department, the Police Policy Oversight Commission with Victim Services and with other community agencies.

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00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:05,000
We will do our part to uphold the rule of law and to bring as much safety and security to the community as we can.

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00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:11,000
In the process, we will always strive to treat everyone with dignity and respect.

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00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,000
That is, of course, what the community deserves.

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Back to you, Mr. President.

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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Thank you, Mr. Spindler Craig. Mayor Norton.

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Thank you very much. And I didn't write a speech out. I'm just going to just speak from my mind and my heart.

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Many of you know that back on January 8th, I made a post and interviewed publicly about the concerns that I knew the community was facing even back on January 8th.

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Since that time of things have become more tense, certainly in Minneapolis and St. Paul, but also down here.

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:04,000
I have caused to my office from people saying, I'm afraid to come to your community for healthcare.

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00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000
That was shared by a couple of individuals here today.

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00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:14,000
I have people calling to say, I'm afraid to leave my house. I'm afraid to go to my car.

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00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:22,000
I'm afraid to go by food and I'm afraid to take care of myself and my children.

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00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I know children are staying home from school.

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:33,000
The things we heard today from the wonderful public that came to speak are the things we've been hearing about in the office.

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And it is what caused me to again go out and make a second statement.

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I'm not going to read it to you, but I made that second statement because I want you to know that we're hearing.

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We recognize what's happening.

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We acknowledge not just hearing, but we're acknowledging that we see what's happening.

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And frankly, we're sorry about what's happening in this country and in our city.

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00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:09,000
These are frightening times, frightening for people in this room, frightening for our friends and neighbors, frightening frankly politically.

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00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Because, you know, I think I used the word uncharted waters.

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00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:20,000
This is not happened in my lifetime that we are facing the kind of actions that we're facing in our community and it's frightening.

683
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,000
We're all frightened, some of us more than others, understandably.

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But I wanted to not only acknowledge that, but I also wanted to say there are people out there who from the bottom of their hearts want to help.

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They want to find solutions. Many of them spoke here and there are many, many, many more out in our community who want to help.

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00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:54,000
And they want to help in ways that don't hurt the cause that don't hurt the individuals they're trying to support.

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00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,000
And there's real fear out there that they don't know what to do, but they desperately want to do something.

688
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000
I also wanted to let the community know that.

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We have a caring, compassionate, loving community.

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Yes, they're individuals who don't feel the way that we all are feeling in the room tonight.

691
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:18,000
They don't even experience in their own lives or see experienced in their communities.

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What you've described here tonight.

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And it's our job to let you know that we hear you and we see you and we will do what we can.

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Within the limits that we have, unfortunately, if you remember in the comments that I made earlier this week,

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:45,000
I did say I have made the call myself to federal officials asking them to help us remove ice from our community.

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We didn't ask for ice to be here.

697
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
We don't need ice to be here.

698
00:54:50,000 --> 00:55:01,000
We have a law enforcement trained properly trained law enforcement group in this community who is here to care for the community and that's their job.

699
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,000
We didn't ask for nor do we need any extra help.

700
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And I say that in quotes.

701
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:14,000
A couple things I do want to say that I heard from some of this speaker tonight.

702
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:20,000
I want to be perfectly clear about this and I'm going to ask our police chief to address it when I'm done.

703
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:27,000
The Rochester Police Department is not helping ice in any way.

704
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:33,000
The Rochester Police Department is not notified by ice when they're in town.

705
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:39,000
They are on their own working for a different boss doing their own thing.

706
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I want to be perfectly clear about that.

707
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In Rochester, the police department is not giving license information or they're not giving any information to ice.

708
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And so that may be happening in other communities.

709
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It is not happening in our community.

710
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And when I hear that said, time and again, it really undermines the work that our police department has been doing since I've been mayor to do community policing and build community trust and make sure our communities.

711
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Whether it be Somalia or Sudanese or Hispanic or any immigrant population.

712
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,000
Any of our many wonderful immigrant populations we have here.

713
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,000
They need to be able to call the police when they need help.

714
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,000
And when we use that kind of language that you can't trust our police department.

715
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000
People then are afraid to call when they need help.

716
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,000
They have to know that our police department is not ice.

717
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,000
It's not border control and it's not doing any of that nor helping.

718
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:50,000
But I'll conclude in just a moment that.

719
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With the chief like to say a couple words.

720
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Yeah, I know he's sitting over here now and maybe he'd like to help the community understand what you do and don't do.

721
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Yeah, thank you mayor.

722
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Thank you council president.

723
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Thank you for this opportunity to speak.

724
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Over the past several weeks.

725
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I've spent a considerable amount of time trying to navigate the uncharted waters that we find ourselves in.

726
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:33,000
And reflecting on how I can best lead the city as police chief with the weighted responsibility of ensuring public safety for all of our members in this community.

727
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:42,000
The essential question that I continually ask myself is, what is this community need to hear from its police department.

728
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Quite frankly, that's been a very difficult question to answer.

729
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:54,000
In moments like this where there is no playbook to follow, there is no crystal ball that predicts the future.

730
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
I believe it comes down to these two things.

731
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Similar to what the mayor touched on.

732
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,000
It's acknowledging the community and providing reassurance.

733
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000
So first let me address the acknowledgement.

734
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,000
The acknowledgement of the fears, perceptions, concerns.

735
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:25,000
I have heard from Rochester residents, community leaders, elected officials that there is in fact an underlying current of fear, particularly surrounding on how immigration enforcement is being conducted.

736
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:32,000
I've heard from local businesses in schools that this is having an impact on behavior and attendance.

737
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:39,000
It's important to acknowledge that and it hasn't fact had a negative impact in this community.

738
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,000
Second is the reinsurance.

739
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,000
Reassurance of what I can actually control.

740
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:50,000
My commitment to you and my reinsurance is too fold.

741
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000
First, how the Rochester Police Department is going to conduct business.

742
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:01,000
And we are going to remain unwavering in our commitment to providing the highest level of public safety to everyone in this community.

743
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,000
As a reminder, and to address some in Mayor Noron's concerns,

744
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,000
we don't have authority to enforce civil immigration law.

745
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Nor do we have authority to prevent ice from enforcing laws in our community.

746
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,000
We have no database on immigrants within this community.

747
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000
We're not collecting data.

748
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,000
We're not asking for data.

749
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:28,000
And nor are we, or has ice asked to see CCTV cameras, or whatever else was said, drone footage, etc.

750
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,000
That is the farthest thing from the truth.

751
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,000
It's not true, and it's not occurring.

752
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:43,000
It's no secret that law enforcement in Minnesota has faced significant adversity and unprecedented challenges over the past several years.

753
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,000
In response to that, this police department, your police department, the Rochester Police Department,

754
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:59,000
has been very proactive in delivering and building trust in strengthening relationships and policing this community in a way that reflects our shared social contract.

755
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,520
And the expectations of the people that we serve, fear exists within our community. And when

756
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,840
that exists, it has the potential to erode the communication and collaboration that is actually

757
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:20,360
essential for public safety. And that's why I want to clearly reassert that our priority, the

758
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,920
Rochester Police Department of Priority, is and how it has been the protection of public

759
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:33,080
safety for this community and the preservation of order within our community. I also want to

760
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:41,520
reaffirm that Rochester PD has operated for several years under a very clear constitutionally

761
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:48,240
grounded immigration related policy. This policy was developed in partnership with public

762
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:55,600
input in the community members. And in fact, even included, an immigration attorney is part of

763
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:01,600
that. It guides our daily practice, decision-making, community engagement and full compliance with

764
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,800
state and federal laws while protecting civil liberties, upholding the constitution and maintaining

765
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:15,200
that public trust. You can find that policy online. Yes, our policy explicitly states that we do not

766
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:23,040
engage in immigration enforcement. We do, in fact, defer that to the federal agencies. Finally,

767
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:30,160
we're going to remain steadfast in our commitment to public safety to this community. We will continue

768
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,240
to meet with community groups. We are going to continue to answer questions. We are going to continue

769
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:43,920
to address concerns. And as always, if you need law enforcement assistance, please do call 911

770
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:52,480
you're never bothering us. Thanks. Thank you. And so I'm just going to close my remarks because

771
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:58,000
I do have a couple other normal announcements that I need to make this evening. And I apologize for

772
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:03,280
taking so much time. But I want to thank the community for coming. I want you to know that we care.

773
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,960
I hate to say we because I don't really feel like I can speak for the council here.

774
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:18,800
But I do know that we have all heard you this evening. And we will do everything in our power to

775
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:30,720
support you as we move ahead in times that I hope are not going to be ongoing. I hope we can

776
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:38,720
ask to be allowed to run our caring, compassionate community the way we have in the past

777
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,960
without ice and with our law enforcement protecting every single one of us that lives here.

778
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:53,360
So I do have a couple other announcements. I know a lot of folks are here for

779
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,840
this topic, which we are wrapping up at this point, there may be. Can I just add one thing before

780
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:06,480
you go to before you go to? Before you go to your usual mayor's reports. So the council will have an

781
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:14,640
opportunity to discuss this during our other business, which is at the end of our agenda. But with that,

782
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:20,720
I will turn it back to you, Mayor. Thank you. Just a couple things. The first one is I do have a

783
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,760
proclamation to read. This is kind of the normal stuff that we usually do every year and this is our

784
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:35,600
first proclamation in January and it reads as follows. Whereas certified registered nurse anesthetists

785
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:44,880
provide high quality, cost effective, anesthesia care, safely administering more than 50 million

786
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:51,680
anesthetics to patients each year in the United States. And whereas CRNAs have been an essential

787
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,320
part of the American health care system for more than 150 years, ensuring patient safety and comfort,

788
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:05,040
and access to anesthesia services. And whereas CRNAs were the first specialists to provide

789
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:12,240
anesthesia care in the United States tracing their roots to nurse Alice Maga, the mother of anesthesia,

790
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,960
who practiced at Minnesota's Mayo Clinic and helped establish excellence in the field. And

791
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:25,520
whereas CRNAs are the primary providers of anesthesia care and greater Minnesota and rural communities

792
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:35,920
nationwide supporting access to obstacles. Dr. Cole, sorry, surgical trauma, stabilization,

793
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:42,000
and pain management services in medically underserved areas. And whereas CRNAs serve as

794
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:48,000
innovative leaders and anesthesia care collaborating with a wide range of health care providers

795
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,760
and practices and hospitals, ambulatory surgical centers, military settings, and veterans of

796
01:04:53,760 --> 01:05:00,000
fair health care facilities. And whereas Minnesota continues to lead in nurse anesthesia education

797
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,880
and practice with approximately 2,000 CRNAs authorized to deliver anesthesia services to patients

798
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,480
across the state, strengthening Minnesota's health care system. Now, therefore, be it resolved that

799
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I, Kim Norton, mayor of the city of Rochester, do hereby proclaim January 18 through 24th, 2026,

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:27,120
as certified registered nurse anesthesiase week in the city. In witnessware of, I have here in two

801
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:33,760
set my hand and cause the corporate seal of the city of Rochester to be effects this 21st day

802
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:43,600
of January 2026. And I do believe Robin Finney is here to, as Robin here, there, to accept the

803
01:05:43,600 --> 01:06:09,360
proclamation.

804
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:20,360
Just a couple other quick announcements just a reminder that January 27th, 2026 is International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

805
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,360
We recognize that each year.

806
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:36,360
There is also an informational meeting about the sister city's trip to Germany that will be held at 125 live on Saturday at 11am January 24th.

807
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:45,360
If anyone is interested in learning a little bit more about our sister city, both of Mooseburg and Munster and the cities will be seeing in between.

808
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,360
You're welcome to a swing by 125 live at 11am.

809
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,360
And Mr. Chair, that's all I have for today.

810
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,360
Thank you, Mayor.

811
01:06:54,360 --> 01:07:00,360
And thank you, police chief, Franklin and city attorney.

812
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,360
It's been with Craig and administrative zones.

813
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And as I mentioned, the council will have an opportunity if need be to discuss this issue later.

814
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,360
So thank you all for being here.

815
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,360
And as the mayor said, you are heard.

816
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:23,360
With that, I will move on to the order of the agenda.

817
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,360
Are there any changes to the agenda?

818
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,360
Seeing none, is there a motion to approve the agenda?

819
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,360
So moved.

820
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,360
Move by council member keen.

821
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,360
Seconded by council member Fredericks, all in favor say aye.

822
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,360
Aye.

823
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,360
Opposed say nay motion passes.

824
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,360
Moving on to the consent agenda.

825
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,360
Council members, wall, Miller and myself are pulling item.

826
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,360
F 10 is there anything else?

827
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:59,360
If not, I'd invite a motion to approve and block items F 1 through F 9 and item F 11.

828
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,360
So moved.

829
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,360
It's a move by council member Doring.

830
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,360
Seconded by council member Miller.

831
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,360
All in favor say aye.

832
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,360
Aye.

833
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Opposed say nay motion passes.

834
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:18,360
We have two public hearings on our agenda this evening.

835
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:24,360
And just before we move into our public hearings,

836
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,360
a little clarification on public hearings.

837
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,360
Staff will introduce or present the item.

838
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:38,360
And then if there is an applicant or an applicant representative,

839
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:43,360
they will have opportunity to make a presentation for up to 10 minutes.

840
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,360
And then I will open the public hearing.

841
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,360
Public hearing members of the public have five minutes each,

842
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:55,360
but you are encouraged to keep comments brief, concise,

843
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,360
and building on not repeating previous comments.

844
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:04,360
Public can be can only join us in person.

845
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,360
Then I will close the public hearing and if there's an applicant,

846
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,360
they will have up to five minutes for a buttole.

847
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And at that point, I will invite my colleagues to ask clarifying questions of the applicant and staff.

848
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:27,360
And at that point there, a more motion would be in order.

849
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,360
So with that, I will move to our first public hearing,

850
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which is item G1 is a conditional use permit by UCI Tower.

851
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:41,360
And this will be presented by Mr. Desmond McGill.

852
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,360
Thank you, Council President Schubering.

853
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,360
Mayor Norton members of the council.

854
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,360
Good evening.

855
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,360
My name is Desmond McGill.

856
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,360
I'm with the Community Development Department.

857
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,360
I'll be bringing you this application.

858
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:59,360
This is a conditional use permit for a wireless communication facility.

859
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Tower, which will consist of 105 foot monopole and accessory equipment for the tower.

860
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,360
The subject site is located at 1807.

861
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,360
Marion Rhodes, out these.

862
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:20,360
In a R3, I'm sorry, in a R2 low density residential zone district.

863
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:27,360
The proposed facility will accommodate a Verizon wireless monopole facility in tennis.

864
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:33,360
And we'll allow for future telecommunication facilities to be located,

865
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,360
co-located on the tower as well.

866
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,360
The wireless communication facility is a permitted use within the zoning district.

867
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:46,360
However, such facilities are limited in height to 65 feet in residential zoning districts.

868
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:53,360
Subject to a conditional use permit facilities can be granted an additional 50 feet in height.

869
01:10:53,360 --> 01:11:03,360
If the applicant can demonstrate that functional coverage cannot provide thorough co-location.

870
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,360
Be at a lower height.

871
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:17,360
And also, if it's in a zoning district such as this, cannot be provided in an alternative zone district such as commercial industrial mixed use or agriculture.

872
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:32,360
The targeted service area of this facility cannot be located on an existing tower or water tower any kind of existing structure within the area.

873
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:39,360
Commercial and industrial land uses are limited in area in this general portion of the city.

874
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:47,360
The 105 foot monopole will adequately address the target service area.

875
01:11:47,360 --> 01:12:08,360
And that anything less than the 105 feet will have would require at least one additional tower and perhaps multiple towers, which would be counter to our objectives for minimizing cell tower locations in minimizing their visual appearance.

876
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:19,360
The applicant has produced maps showing the service coverage of a 65 105 in 150 foot high tower in this general facility area.

877
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:30,360
And based on the coverage maps and the engineering RFF at David provided by the applicant community development supports the grant of the 105 foot high tower.

878
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,360
To meet the public interest objectives.

879
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:42,360
The planning commission has unanimously recommended seven zero that the city council approve the subject application.

880
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:55,360
I do have a couple of clarifications wanted to note that monopole is 105 feet but the there is a lightning rod that is on the top of it that extends another four feet so the total height of the structure would be 190.

881
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:04,360
So that the staff report notes that a 65 foot tall facility would require two tower facility locations.

882
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:17,360
It should read multiple tower locations rather than two and then also there is a sentence or two in on page two that is italicized suggesting that the RF engineer response.

883
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:36,360
This is suggesting that it's an RF engineering response which which is not that is just language taken from the UDC that was italicized so that is of the UDC not not the applicant so I think that concludes my presentation my introduction on this and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

884
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,360
Is there a representative of of the applicant here.

885
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:49,360
If you it's step forward identify yourself and you have up to 10 minutes but you don't have to use it all.

886
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:56,360
I'm Matthew Coonerty represent UCI tower and Verizon on this wireless project.

887
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:08,360
The staff presentation was was well done and and I think comprehensive but if you have additional questions I'd be happy to answer anything you might want to ask about.

888
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:14,360
Okay, well have you sit down and invite you back after the public hearing.

889
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:26,360
At this point I will open the public hearing and ask if anyone wishes to be heard on this item does anyone wish to be heard on this item does anyone wish to be heard on this item.

890
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:37,360
Does anyone wish to be heard on this item see no one I will close the public hearing and if you'd like to come back and say closing comment.

891
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:48,360
It's been quite a long project and the same presentation I think has been given quite a few times but if you do have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

892
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,360
It's a it's a needed project it's been worked on for a long long time.

893
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,360
Good.

894
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,360
Council members questions for the applicant or staff.

895
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,000
So member keen. Thank you. Yeah, I went to the neighborhood information meeting. I thought was well presented, but I just wanted to clarify.

896
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:14,000
Desmond, you made some qualifying statements that there's some changes on the resolution compared to what we have, or what was the clarification?

897
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:20,000
The clarification is actually in the staff report. Okay. All right. Thank you. That's helpful.

898
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:27,000
Any other questions? You can sit down. Okay. Thank you. Is there a motion on this item?

899
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:49,000
I'll move adapting a resolution approving conditional use permit number CD 2025 010CUP by UCI power for the construction of a wireless communication facility consisting of 105 foot monopole tower and ancillary equipment located in the R2, which is low density residential small lot zoning district.

900
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Second.

901
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,000
Move by council member keen and seconded by council member Fredericks anymore.

902
01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:07,000
Yeah. Thank you. Council member. Any further discussion? Seeing none all in favor say aye. I oppose say nay motion passes. Thank you. Thank you for coming.

903
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:15,000
Next up, we have item G2, which is a final plat by the city and Mr. McGill.

904
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:24,000
Thank you. Thank you. This is an application for a final plat by the city of Rochester.

905
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:39,000
This final plat is known as the sports regional sports and recreational complex. This will be for the subdivision of 158 acres located in an R3 and MXG zoning district.

906
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:51,000
The site is located north of 48th street southeast and south of 40th street southeast and east of the east terminus of orchid road.

907
01:16:51,000 --> 01:17:08,000
This plat encompasses one lot and four outlots in the dedication of right away for 45th street southeast subject request is a quasi judicial and nature subject to the approval criteria of the major land subdivision of the UDC.

908
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:19,000
Authorization will permit the splitting of the land in separate parcels for future sales and dispossession of the land as needed.

909
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:29,000
And the development review committee is recommending approval of the subject applications so that concludes my introduction had to be happy to answer any questions.

910
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:35,000
At this point, I'll open the public hearing. Is there anyone wishing to be heard on this item?

911
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,000
Please step forward. Anyone wishing to be heard on this item? Please step forward.

912
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:47,000
Anyone wishing to be heard on this item? Please step forward at this point. I will close the public hearing and invite council members.

913
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,000
Any questions?

914
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,000
Or motion council member.

915
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:21,000
Make a motion to prove final plat number cd2025-043 pla t by city adopting a resolution improving final plat number cd2025-043 pla t by the city to be known as regional sports recreation complex of three conditions for the subdivision of 158.21 acres of land into one lot and four outlots.

916
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Motion made by council member Fredericks is there second. Seconded by council member keen council member Fredericks any more to add.

917
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,000
Council member key.

918
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,000
Further discussion. Seeing none on favor say aye.

919
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Aye.

920
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,000
Opposed say nay.

921
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Motion passes six one with council member during voting nay.

922
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Moving on to reports and recommendations. We have a site development agreement with Mayo Clinic for the west logistic center and the Osmond Waterman clinical building.

923
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:08,000
And this item was pulled by council members wall, Miller and myself and council member wall. Maybe you can kick us off on this one.

924
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,000
Thank you.

925
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,000
I need to pull up my notes.

926
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:30,000
Primarily I pulled this because it is such a huge project in the city of Rochester and I think that by drawing attention to it at this meeting.

927
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:40,000
We signal to the residents and even to our own council, the magnitude of what we are doing with this particular F 10.

928
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:46,000
I have other questions, but that's primarily why I pulled council member Miller any more to add.

929
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,000
Sure.

930
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:58,000
Similar to council member wall, I think there is value and open discussion on this item, particularly having the ability to put on the record some of the clarifications that have been provided to us this week.

931
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:12,000
And also clarify how this process moves forward from transparency and understanding where the public get to engage with Mayo and the public realm and where we do as well and how we receive updates moving forward.

932
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:19,000
So I think it's a major project and we're in uncharted territory and this as well and I think more information is good.

933
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Thank you and for myself, I agree with both my colleagues.

934
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:35,000
I think really understanding where members of the public can continue to engage on this project as it moves forward a couple more specific issues.

935
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:47,000
And I think I'm going to turn to either Ms. Stainhauser on this a couple of specific issues is clarifying Mayo clinics commitment to this council to feature.

936
01:20:47,000 --> 01:21:02,000
The Arctic facts that were removed from the former Lord's high school in the park design, clarifying the park dimensions and that it extends to the right of way on the west side.

937
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:17,000
And then also the potential costs of bearing overhead power lines and efforts to encourage a joint funding of this between our major employer DMC the city.

938
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:24,000
And so some specific questions there, so Ms. Stainhauser if you can give us a little briefing on this.

939
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:31,000
Sure, thank you council President Schubering and members of the city council happy to try and respond to those.

940
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:49,000
I will also say that community health and director Irene Woodward is here as well as our peer director Tim McCollah who are also available to answer the questions and we do have online outside legal counsel Rachel tyranny who helped with the drafting of these agreements as well as prior agreements.

941
01:21:49,000 --> 01:22:06,000
So specifically to your questions related to the use of artifacts that is from the historic lords sites that has come up a number of times we have confirmed on a number of occasions and including most recently.

942
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:21,000
This week with the male representatives that they will absolutely incorporate artifacts from the former Lord historic lords high school into the park and in their words incorporate them in a way that meaningfully honors the history of the site.

943
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:35,000
So that is very much a commitment on the part of Mayo to do that I think at the time when the demolition of the site was before this council they had also indicated at that time and that commitment continues.

944
01:22:36,000 --> 01:23:01,000
In terms of the park design the park is not fully designed I think in conversations with mayor representatives they recognize that this is a really important asset not only to the community but to the neighborhood in particular and so they want to make sure that the neighbor neighbors and the community have specific input on how lords high school is honored on this site and.

945
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:17,000
And the desires of the community are incorporated into the design of the site I do not have specifics on a schedule for additional neighborhood meetings we have representatives from both city and Mayo and DMC that attend.

946
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:29,000
The cut ski park monthly neighborhood meeting that's an opportunity to get input but I anticipate based on my conversations with Mayo that they will conduct additional neighborhood meetings for and community engagement around.

947
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:36,000
This site and as that information becomes available we'll happy to be happy to communicate it to this council and to others.

948
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:52,000
In terms of the park size it is what we would refer to in planning terms more of a linear park contractually they were required to have a 30 foot dimension with from the building to the curb line.

949
01:23:52,000 --> 01:24:04,000
That the actual dimension is 43 feet and then it runs the length of the block north south so that is the size of the green space the linear park that we're talking about.

950
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:14,000
In terms of the conversation on overhead line and the burning of overhead lines that of course was brought up by this council during on discussion when you.

951
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Approved the DMC CIP budget last October since that time there's been a lot of discussion internally from city teammates and a lot of work done and research done by Tim McCullough in terms of.

952
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:43,000
Understanding the landscape that we're looking at when it comes to not only bearing overhead wires on 7th Avenue but the ask was beyond it was for cut ski park but as it relates specifically to 7th Avenue.

953
01:24:43,000 --> 01:25:01,000
I'll defer to Tim in terms of providing information on those costs I will say that it is not a budgeted item it was not an item that we had in putting together the 38 million dollars of unbound funding for.

954
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:16,000
The 30 square block of improvements did not come to plate an allocation for the bearing of underground wires that said there is in that 38 million dollar that was approved by DMC and approved by this body.

955
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:26,000
A million dollar allocation for public room improvements for cut ski park and how those dollars are to be spent is a conversation that we will have with the neighborhood.

956
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:32,000
So with that maybe I'll pause and let Tim speak to the cost of the burying of the underground.

957
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:40,000
Very good good evening council president she brewing council mayor happy to be here tonight to help provide some context here as.

958
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:50,000
And this diners are said we have done some preliminary budgetary type estimates on what undergrounding efforts would look like in the broad impact area around.

959
01:25:51,000 --> 01:26:07,000
The 38 million that we've discussed previously the 7th Avenue Northwest corridor specifically is one of the more challenging corridors because it's a heavy three phase line there so it's one of our bigger lines the total corridor from.

960
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:19,000
We did this in sections not specifically focused on block by block but from about first street southwest all the way up to almost civics enter drive if it would connect.

961
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:28,000
Is about a two million dollar effort to underground that entire line now obviously this discussion is about a smaller piece than that.

962
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:53,000
But is it a piece right in the middle of that which becomes challenging to go under and back up around so I will give a very vague and non-committal high level answer of somewhere in the realm of one to two million dollars of undergrounding probably in this vicinity and that is just represented that is not only representative of the cost to the electric utility which we don't have a funding source for there's also some private investment.

963
01:26:53,000 --> 01:27:11,000
That would be required here for service laterals that connect to homes or businesses depending on the extents of the the undergrounding there we've had very successful undergrounding successful projects north broadways a great example of that lot of lines with all underground and partnership.

964
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:21,000
So with the right funding sources with the right partnership with the right communication with the communications companies it could be a successful outcome here.

965
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:34,000
I will reiterate from the RPU perspective we typically invest a couple hundred thousand dollars a year in undergrounding but in this immediate forward period those investments were focused on.

966
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Another project the 18th Avenue project so we did not identify any dollars for undergrounding in the downtown corridor area in the budget planning so there's not currently a utility source for any undergrounding for aesthetic or other reasons here we would typically look for those funds to come from developer partner others depending on who's asking for who's contributing to the project there.

967
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:05,000
Unless there's any questions I believe I've answered the portion of the council number one.

968
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:14,000
Thank you, Ms. Steinhouser, I want to go back to the lured part of the project.

969
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:26,000
Months ago male representatives and city leaders made a commitment to the council that there would be this linear park with artifacts.

970
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:35,000
I think there's some narrative in the public that there is some withdrawal of that commitment by male representatives.

971
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:50,000
I have been assured both in writing and now orally by you that instead of reducing their commitment the the park seems to have grown and that they are equally committed to using artifacts would that be true.

972
01:28:51,000 --> 01:29:00,000
And that was one of the reasons I wanted to pull this is to get that under the record like I think Mr. Miller suggested that.

973
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,000
The council remains committed to that from months ago to today.

974
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:16,000
Another question and I think that you addressed that that Mayo is committed to further meetings with the public that.

975
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:28,000
They haven't had their last opportunity to weigh in on either the logistics building or Osmond Waterman building.

976
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,000
Yes that is correct.

977
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:55,000
That's great. The one thing that I think is important for the council is to recognize I believe if I have understood it correctly that if we were to approve F10 as it is currently written that this is not likely to come back to our council for any kind of meaningful action.

978
01:29:55,000 --> 01:30:00,000
I have a have I read that correctly. Yes this is would be the last.

979
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:21,000
For the action that you would take related to this item, it's an agreement, normally, site development plans do not come back to city council, but as we indicated in the communication to you, because they don't have all of the site development, the landscaping in particular is the biggest piece that's not yet complete.

980
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:39,000
We wanted to have something on the record, something official, something enforceable to make sure that not only do the designs get complete, but that they actually build what is shown in the designs that city staff would review at the staff level.

981
01:30:39,000 --> 01:31:05,000
Thank you, and I think there's at least one council member up here who would say mail has always gone over and above what they have been asked to do in the community, and so with the oversight by city staff, we're really quite assured that we're going to get just a number one project, even if it doesn't come back to the council.

982
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:10,000
I would agree with that assessment, thank you, council, my remiller.

983
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:22,000
Sure, just a few questions and while I appreciate Mr. Wall's optimism, I think I would anchor myself in the oversight of this project and set that as.

984
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:37,000
I'm hoping that the city staff in knowing that city staff will hold Mayo Clinic or any developer to our standards and not assume that just because they're the largest employer in town and the majority stakeholder of downtown.

985
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:45,000
That they will just deliver something that meets the community needs, so just want to be on the record, too, that I will agree very much.

986
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:55,000
We'll not give away my expectation and I'm grateful for the UDC and the process that led to that, but my question, I guess I would start.

987
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Mr. Stein has or you've enumerated some of the conditions related to both of these sites.

988
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:10,000
Could you go through the conditions related to the Osmond Waterman building and give us a status update of where the site development plan as well as.

989
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:17,000
Other work brings us on those, there's the pedestrian access through the Osmond Waterman building.

990
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:23,000
The downtown active transportation network, could you enumerate those and just share where we stand.

991
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,000
Sure, and then I will also lean into my colleague.

992
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,000
Miss Woodward from the community development.

993
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:41,000
So in terms of the pedestrian access through the building, that was what that was a condition of a street vacation and so.

994
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,000
And you approved as part of that condition.

995
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:56,000
The access I don't remember all the exact hours of it's every day and it's generally a hours the hours are early morning well into late at night.

996
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,000
I believe it's 10 or 10 30 at night.

997
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:12,000
So so that access is a public access through the building at to replace the access that was eliminated with the street vacations of third and fourth avenue.

998
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:20,000
In terms of the conditions yet to be approved.

999
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:39,000
Miss Woodward took point on negotiating and and vetting the site development plan that has been submitted by the mail team and reviewing what was incomplete in that plan and identified and developed that list of conditions that we will enforce through this agreement.

1000
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:43,000
Maybe I'll just pause and let Miss Woodward speak to that.

1001
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,000
Thank you.

1002
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,000
So for the access it also says approved in concept in the agreement.

1003
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:55,000
So just to note what that kind of means is they mail has showed us numerous ways that they're creating that concept.

1004
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:05,000
And in general, we are an agreement of making sure that pedestrian flow and we've maintained it in the agreement until gets to full construction documents and building permits to make sure that those continue.

1005
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:09,000
And this was a method for us to be able to make sure that that continues knowing it's a priority.

1006
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:21,000
So could you clarify the exhibit because there were yellow arrows and indicating staff entrances and red arrows indicating public entrance or access.

1007
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:30,000
And I was set an email from mail communications saying that unfortunately the graphic attached was incorrect.

1008
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:39,000
I thought we'd corrected that mail in the council record before submission. Could you clarify what the current proposal.

1009
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:44,000
And whether or not the the exhibit included in our packet is the most recent version.

1010
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:56,000
We there was some change to the exhibit it is correct online currently and it is a public access and it is showing that in the exhibits.

1011
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:03,000
So another question related to the west logistic center and the linear park.

1012
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,000
Obviously that is still in a process of engagement may have had a meeting last week with the neighborhood.

1013
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:24,000
I will just reiterate that a priority that was overwhelmingly clear and several of us attended that meeting was under grounding the power lines particularly for over story tree possibilities for that park.

1014
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:32,000
And so I guess I just want to put that on the record of it was abundantly clear to me that that was the first priority.

1015
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:42,000
Even more so than artifacts is that the quality of that park is contingent on overhead power lines are under grounded.

1016
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:48,000
And I do hope that we do find a way to move that forward because it feels like a.

1017
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:55,000
So we talk about dig once this feels like a dig once a build the park once and allow the trees to grow overhead.

1018
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:10,000
I guess another question that's come up in other presentation sources about the air quality alliance and it was indicated in that meeting that mail had declined to participate as a site for an air quality monitor in that park.

1019
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:17,000
And I guess I don't necessarily have a question other than just it feels unfortunate that we're.

1020
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:30,000
Out of step in monitoring air quality and I would hope that the city might think of ways near that access point to reassure the neighborhood and other downtown visitors that the quality is.

1021
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Is sufficiently monitored and reported as it relates to public health.

1022
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:45,000
And my final question is is related to the public realm experience and what assurances might you give us that.

1023
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,000
The features of the public realm are on these buildings will be more than bushes and benches.

1024
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:56,000
So I will attempt to answer that and again if others want to respond so I think.

1025
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:09,000
Part of not think I know what will drive the review is the unified development code has a robust set of design standards that they use that go beyond just.

1026
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:23,000
Bushes and benches and then layered on top of that also embedded in that UDC is the city design guidelines for DMC district of which this is part of and so.

1027
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:37,000
If anything to me that that is an elevated level of design that the planners that review the site development plan apply to the review and approval process.

1028
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,000
Council member key.

1029
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:57,000
Yeah, I just wanted to do two things one kind of already been covered one on the overhead power lines I mean I this is a big deal from the neighbors perspective I also think it's a better quality park if this were done but I want to reiterate when we talk about like we can talk about the.

1030
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:13,000
The the project person doing it or sometimes this is done through our PU but there are other there are other buildings that would need to pay for their access things that would need to be worked out and I want to make sure the community understands that before we push for something that drives other costs that.

1031
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,000
Other residents are going to have to pay for.

1032
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:26,000
We think the staff made the good point here the what we're proving tonight isn't any sort of design or anything like this it's it's accessibility to keep moving right now.

1033
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:34,000
But still hold these other site development plan requirements even though one of those site development plan requirements is you don't get any permits until you have it.

1034
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:51,000
So we're doing these agreements now so we can keep up with this and I think this is a stated goal of this council to try to be responsive and stay stay keep keep these projects moving and not have them drag throughout out and start losing time so I appreciate the ability to try to put an agreement like this together.

1035
01:38:52,000 --> 01:39:00,000
One of the things we do with these sort of things says not coming back to council is we have to trust the work we did back in 2021 and 2022 to do the.

1036
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Unified development code because I trust that the staff will use that as their guiding document and that's really what what we're going forward with.

1037
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:14,000
But I also wanted to make sure people know that along with not have any approvals there is a planned.

1038
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:20,000
Study session to go over the ball forward plans and do you want to talk about that a little bit.

1039
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:31,000
Sure we thank you council member can we periodically come before this body and provide an update on support and transformation and we're at with both forward and bound and related initiatives.

1040
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:37,000
We have a request in for a study session in early March to become to you with an update.

1041
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:46,000
And we could speak to this our focus for that update with will be to talk about the construction coordination work that's happening behind the scenes between.

1042
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:54,000
Our across our departments our communication strategy for the next 12 to 18 months related to that as well as some additional.

1043
01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:01,000
Detail related to the research being done about the cost and implications of considering bearing underground wires so.

1044
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:10,000
We periodically bring updates to you happy to bring an update specifically related to the park and incorporated into that presentation as well.

1045
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,000
I think that would be good suggestion if you could do that thank you.

1046
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,000
Agreed council member Palmer.

1047
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000
Thank you.

1048
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,000
I've looked at the.

1049
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Pat performance of the male clinic in the artwork that they have and the trees that they have and the plants that they have I think are are phenomenal.

1050
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:37,000
So I I won't for one will speak that that I'm very happy with what they do and and I'm surprised that people are don'ting that.

1051
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:45,000
I have a couple questions and and I'm confusing on this first street Southwest Pacific center drive to bury the lines.

1052
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,000
Why would we.

1053
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:53,000
Why would the citizens of Rochester are the rate pairs of RPU want to pay for this.

1054
01:40:53,000 --> 01:41:00,000
Because the policy is that we don't and so I don't understand why.

1055
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:06,000
You know, the people out in the breakers have to pay for this that just as boggles my mind.

1056
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:18,000
Certainly we we would bring forward to what we're hearing in the community meetings and that would be a policy decision that this council would make whether not you wanted to allocate resources and pay for it as opposed to.

1057
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,000
I'm putting it on right pair but.

1058
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:31,000
Looks like you said these meetings you're talking about are the neighborhood meeting that's maybe 20 people and not reflective of the community and I don't think that if you said to the community.

1059
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:41,000
I don't think anybody would agree to that.

1060
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:46,000
I certainly think there's a lot more where I'm not advocating a position one way or the other.

1061
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:53,000
I think there's a lot of and work still yet to be done to understand the financial implications as Mr. McCulland indicated that we have.

1062
01:41:53,000 --> 01:42:03,000
I've generally rushed estimate of bearing that a large line but understanding what the cost per household would be for the people that would have to replace the line the latter line from the main.

1063
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:09,000
To their household and if there's any other implications if it's an older home that needs you brought up to code.

1064
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:16,000
There's a lot to understand in terms of considering bearing underground wires and we haven't fully better that.

1065
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:26,000
I just like to add I probably spoke broader than was necessary for this conversation and describing 7th Avenue to its full extent.

1066
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:35,000
The planning work that we've done up to this point has been looking at the full broad impact area and trying to divide it up into segments that can further be subdivided.

1067
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:43,000
So I apologize if I extend the conversation further than the extent of what the discussion point was tonight.

1068
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:47,000
And the other question I have is is this.

1069
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:54,000
I think you said eight million dollars for public realm is in this is coming from the DMC money is that correct.

1070
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,000
That is correct of the $38 million that was approved.

1071
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:06,000
It includes an allocation from 7th Avenue West in the Kutsky Park area the idea.

1072
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:21,000
And the thought behind that allocation is how do we I think is some of put soft in the edges of the impact of a $5 billion investment that lives right next door to a neighborhood that has preserved a lot of its character.

1073
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:34,000
And so how do you not have a negative impact to that neighborhood and so the thought was that those dollars would go towards an enhanced public realm that softens and.

1074
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:38,000
The impact of what's happening with a $5 billion investment right next.

1075
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:43,000
So then explain to me how do we use DMC money outside the DMC area.

1076
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:53,000
The fair question is not all of the area is in the DMC district depending on how those dollars are being recommended being spent.

1077
01:43:53,000 --> 01:44:02,000
It could require a district a boundary amendment that would have to go to the DMCC board and then to the city council for consideration.

1078
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,000
And the past the idea of moving the DMC boundary has been.

1079
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:19,000
Lack of better way to save from the pond and greatly not wanting to do it in a point when my bug booth is the parking ramp at the rec center and that we will not change the boundary.

1080
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:30,000
I'm not sure why we'd want to change the boundary and I know the last time we talked about this we're confusing because you're talking about bearing lines down center street or first street.

1081
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:40,000
The cost of that would be horrendous and you would lose the trees and so who's making this decision that this $8 million is going to be spent.

1082
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:54,000
Well no decisions haven't made the how it's being spent it's an allocation right and there's been as I said we've we've had some initial conversations with the neighborhood the cuts can never hold in particular.

1083
01:44:54,000 --> 01:45:00,000
I want to be sensitive to the fact that there is inevitably going to be an impact.

1084
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,000
To that neighborhood whether it's traffic, whether it's, well, traffic being one thing in particular. So let's just take traffic as an example. So if there's what proves to be true is an intense amount of traffic that happens that necessitates improvement for pedestrian connections, improvements to the streetscape in some way shape or form, that there are dollars that are allocated to do those improvements.

1085
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:52,000
Now whether those would be required, those improvements are in the DMC district or not and require a boundary modification is something that we've talked about with DMC staff and there are aware that it could require a boundary modification and we need to go through the appropriate process and bring the appropriate justification forward. But that's been the early conversation.

1086
01:45:52,000 --> 01:46:01,000
So the people in lower town are going to be affected by the downtown redevelopment and everything. So how do they get their eight million dollars?

1087
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:11,000
That sounds like a rhetorical question council member. Well, it's not a type of question that it's fair to ask staff to answer at this point.

1088
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:19,000
I want to clarify a little bit to council member Palmer's question. So those allocations for that eight million dollars.

1089
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:38,000
Whether there's a request for boundary changes will go to come to this council and specific allocations of that eight million dollars will all come back to this council. So we will have an opportunity to discuss those as they come forward.

1090
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:44,000
So you approved the funding. You already approved the $38 million.

1091
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:53,000
We would bring forward if the eight million dollars for anything in Cutske Park went beyond the boundary modifications.

1092
01:46:53,000 --> 01:47:00,000
Current boundary modifications that would come before you as part of the justification for the boundary modification.

1093
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:11,000
If it's an expense that is already in the DMC district, what would come to you would be the RFP for design services for planning services.

1094
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:19,000
The RFP to go out for bid and to award the bid contract. So if it's in the boundary already, that's what we come to this council.

1095
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,000
Thank you. Sorry, the interrupt council member just wanted a clarification.

1096
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:29,000
So do you have several more questions or two? I'll have two. Okay.

1097
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,000
Go ahead.

1098
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:44,000
The area between 7th Avenue and 11th Avenue in 2nd Street Southwest to the river is approximately 450 parcels of that about 125 single family dwellings.

1099
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:54,000
So if you expanded the boundary of the DMC area, would you then change the zoning to R3 and R4?

1100
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:59,000
Because it's almost already a commercial area with that much rental don't you think?

1101
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:05,000
I wouldn't want to guess on what the appropriate zoning would be. I would have to defer to either.

1102
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:16,000
I mean, the zoning doesn't correlate to how you spend dollars in a public room dollars.

1103
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:23,000
No, but it does moving the district, the DMC district.

1104
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:33,000
The district boundary modification would be to enable dollars to be spent in the public room. That is not a zoning specific.

1105
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:41,000
So my last question is the requirement for male clinic on this this linear park is 30 feet.

1106
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:51,000
So so when your inspector goes out there and looks at it and measures 30 feet, is that what they're looking for?

1107
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:56,000
I'm not sure that I understand the question completely.

1108
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:17,000
I mean, what we know is that the in rotating the building and enabled the park to go beyond 30 feet and that male has clearly indicated that that will be the result is that it will be 43 feet based on rotating the building creates the opportunity for additional green space in that linear park.

1109
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:22,000
So they've more than met the requirement. I don't know if any questions.

1110
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:51,000
Can I add a little my understanding is that the male clinic has also said that they would maintain the right of way so that the park itself would go from building to curb and the paths or the sidewalk would land somewhere in that linear park is that kind of a correct interpretation of what they're planning and what you've

1111
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,000
to with male clinic.

1112
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:59,000
That's my understanding, but I'll just miss what we're to also come into that because I think she's seen more recent documents.

1113
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:17,000
So yes, it does include up to the curb to the building that area is 43 feet currently and that's showing up on the existing site development plan is just not fully designed in terms of where the sidewalk is going to land in some of those other elements but the the distance and the width has been identified.

1114
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:30,000
And male clinic has agreed to maintain that right of way that is correct and we will work with them on any of the other documentation needed as we continue to move forward.

1115
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,000
Council member Miller.

1116
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:41,000
Yeah, just one additional clarification on the conditions so related to improving the pedestrian and active transportation.

1117
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:45,000
So could you give us an update on the sixth avenue design.

1118
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:51,000
Like how perhaps truck traffic planning is is moving along as well.

1119
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:55,000
And when we should expect updates for our or council action on those.

1120
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,000
Sure, so.

1121
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:03,000
Is part of the 38 million dollars there's a.

1122
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:09,000
Planned improvements along sixth avenue, which will support multi modes right and the.

1123
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:15,000
As you saw at prior study sessions and updates it includes a separated sector bike lane.

1124
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,000
Learn to sidewalks we.

1125
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:22,000
This council asks us to also take a look at.

1126
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:30,000
Alternatives in addition to the ones we were studying which was first avenue six avenue taking a look at second avenue specifically through Annabird Plaza.

1127
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,000
Most of that work is complete that analysis complete.

1128
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:39,000
We went to P back week or so ago and it is scheduled to come back to you.

1129
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:43,000
I think the degrees February 18th for an update.

1130
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:47,000
And related to the truck traffic as well.

1131
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,000
There was some discussion of the finalizing.

1132
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:53,000
What the configuration would be box trucks semis et cetera.

1133
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:59,000
Are there any updates worth noting since this is part of that site development plan.

1134
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,000
Work I know the construction would be different than operations but I.

1135
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:13,000
And are you excuse me council my remiller you referring specifically to the west legislator specifically related to the west legislator operations.

1136
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,000
Yes.

1137
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,000
So I might lean again into miss woodward specifically on the truck size.

1138
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,000
I don't think there's any other updates on the number of trucks.

1139
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:28,000
All of the traffic was reviewed as part of the traffic study and that was already reviewed and approved for this project.

1140
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,000
Okay.

1141
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,000
Council member Fredericks.

1142
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,000
Thank you.

1143
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,000
Are you tired of being in the hot seat yet?

1144
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,000
It's fine.

1145
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,000
All right, I'll make it all make it simple on you.

1146
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:42,000
Who exact is asking for underground utility versus overhead?

1147
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,000
Who's exactly asking for that or who's ideas it.

1148
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:49,000
It has something it is something that's come from.

1149
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,000
The Cutsky Park neighborhood meetings that we attend.

1150
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,000
I don't know all the representatives.

1151
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:59,000
And you know it's generally ten or twelve people up there on board to help pay for it.

1152
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,000
There's not been a commitment from Cutsky Park neighborhood to pay for it.

1153
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,000
All right.

1154
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,000
And then.

1155
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,000
Mr. McCullough.

1156
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:13,000
Could you explain to us some of the benefits of underground versus overhead.

1157
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,000
Cost of connections, tapings, abandonment.

1158
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,000
You're going to have abandonments from time to time.

1159
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:23,000
Explain to us some of the cost differences between underground and overhead.

1160
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,000
I can certainly take a shot at it.

1161
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,000
Council member Fredericks.

1162
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:33,000
Generally speaking, the cost of underground construction is a factor of.

1163
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,000
Five times more than overhead construction.

1164
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,000
It often has a longer life cycle.

1165
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:43,000
So you can reap some of the benefits of the higher investment over time.

1166
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:50,000
You do gain some reliability by putting wires underground because.

1167
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:55,000
trees ice squirrels don't tend to find the wires when they're buried in the ground.

1168
01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:00,000
So there's slight gains in reliability with a piece meal type.

1169
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,000
Undergrounding whether still segments of overhead.

1170
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:07,000
You really don't realize the full benefit until everything's underground.

1171
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:12,000
Having come from a community in my former world where nearly everything was underground.

1172
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,000
That's a different story than what we're telling about here.

1173
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,000
You get incremental reliability benefits.

1174
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:22,000
You save operational costs on a cycle of not having to trim trees.

1175
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:26,000
You certainly get an aesthetic benefit of not having.

1176
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:33,000
The wide trees like cut out of the middle when you have the conflict between overhead lines and trees as well.

1177
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:42,000
There are some inherent benefits of we've I think encountered about a dozen pole versus car versus pole accidents.

1178
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,000
So interfaces with traffic can be.

1179
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:53,000
Improved when you put things underground, but those nice big green boxes that stick out of the ground still get hit by cars.

1180
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:58,000
As well, so those are it's not a full hundred percent there.

1181
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:03,000
Our view has a goal of trying to move forward and continue progress towards undergoing our system.

1182
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,000
There's a board adopted policy.

1183
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,000
We partner often to do so on that.

1184
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:13,000
I will say that the cost of undergrounding is not always recovered in the savings.

1185
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:26,000
In individual segments it can lead to some higher upfront capital costs and all the benefits that we're trying to quantify a vegetation management direct cost and reliability or hard to put dollars to to make it always pencil out.

1186
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:38,000
So one of the reasons that we're very careful about designing our undergrounding projects so that they can best benefit the community and the entire rate base and anytime there's request for individual.

1187
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:47,000
For aesthetic reasons or other reasons we typically seek to have funding sources come from those requesting the undergrounding as well.

1188
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:52,000
Hopefully I answered your question on that if there's anything else I'd like you'd like me to touch on.

1189
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,000
Yeah, one last thing.

1190
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:58,000
So let's say hypothetically you move forward with this we move forward with this.

1191
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:03,000
Who does pay the bill?

1192
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:11,000
So I will jump in as Mr. McCall said it's not something that's currently funded in our post capital plan so it would have to.

1193
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:20,000
We would have to look at what funding options are available and bring forward to you as an amendment to your budget because it's not currently in the budget.

1194
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:30,000
And when I mentioned earlier we'd want to understand what the cost is to the individual homeowner or commercial property that has to pay for the cost then of this.

1195
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:35,000
Do you pop the service line the secondary service secondary service line to their property?

1196
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:50,000
Okay, I just asked that because I'm not into mandating you're going to do this you're going to pay for when they have operational operational lines in place and just saying hey you're going to do this we you know we decide you're going to do this.

1197
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:56,000
I don't I'm not a board of that but so that's where I'm at.

1198
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:01,000
Any further discussion on this is there a motion on this item.

1199
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:04,000
Go ahead councilmember Palmer.

1200
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:19,000
Authorization of site development agreement with mail clinic in Minnesota nonprofit organization for conditional site plan approval for the construction of the West Logistics Center and the Osmond Waterment Clinical building as part of bold forward unbound in Rochester.

1201
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:26,000
Council motion made by councilmember Palmer seconded by councilmember Fredericks anymore to add councilmember.

1202
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:30,000
I've done enough any further discussion seeing none.

1203
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,000
All in favor say aye.

1204
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,000
I oppose say nay motion passes.

1205
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:44,000
Thank you moving on to our ordinance first readings Mr. Spindler Craig.

1206
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:59,000
Thank you Mr. President item J one an ordinance rezoning approximately 2.04 acres of land located at the southwest corner of east center street and 6th Avenue southeast identified by.

1207
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:15,000
This number zero to six five seven one through zero to six five seven six and zero to six five seven eight through zero to six five eight three and zero to six five eight five.

1208
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:28,000
From R to X low density residential infill to R for high density residential and a many ordinance number four four seven eight known as the unified development code of the city of Rochester Minnesota.

1209
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:36,000
Thank you. We have no table items other business councilmember Dory.

1210
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:48,000
Yeah, I don't want to let the moment pass to discuss what was what was presented in our our public hearing this evening.

1211
01:58:48,000 --> 01:59:02,000
Since I says has been in our community. I have also been an outspoken critic of the tactics that ice has been using in the harm that has caused to our community.

1212
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:12,000
I'm not going to read the multiple Facebook posts or social media posts or rehash any other public statement I've made at this point.

1213
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:24,000
I am saddened that those who spoke to public comment decided to leave. So they will not hear the commitments I am willing to make this evening.

1214
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:50,000
I am I remain committed to pushing our city administration are Rochester police department and all entities who have any legislative power to look for solutions or clarifications about how our community can be continue to be a safe place for everyone to live.

1215
01:59:50,000 --> 02:00:00,000
So I'm going to be a bug in their ear still. I am fully committed and have been fully committed to working on solution.

1216
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:24,000
With in the law, to feed those who are going hungry, to alleviate fears that affected parts of our community have, to ensure that they feel safe, seeking the essential services that they need to live their best life in this community.

1217
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:52,000
To this point, I have been involved in numerous food runs. I have been trained as a constitutional observer. I have stood vigil outside of masks so people can worship. Without fear, it is my commitment to the affected community and to the entire Rochester community that I will do everything in my power as an elected official.

1218
02:00:52,000 --> 02:01:17,000
To make sure that everyone feels safe, I will continue to lend my voice to ask ice to leave our community and I encourage all Rochester residents who are as concerned as I am, to serve their neighbors, to reach out and to do so in legal fashions.

1219
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:33,000
And if we all engage in this type of behavior, Rochester can certainly be the place that I and those that you heard this evening want it to be.

1220
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,000
Thanks.

1221
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:41,000
Thank you council member. Anyone else want to be heard on this item or on other business? I'm sorry.

1222
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:50,000
Go ahead council member. Wow. I appreciate Mr. Dorings words.

1223
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:56,000
I have heard a lot really from both sides on this issue.

1224
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:01,000
And what I'm so sad about is that everybody feels like they're losers.

1225
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:09,000
I don't think anybody thinks they're winning this battle if it's a battle.

1226
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:20,000
And no matter what is done, it seems like there's losers on all sides and that just really hurts.

1227
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:32,000
I work weekly with people who are affected by this and hear stories.

1228
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:47,000
It's just so sad that we choose not to treat each other as gods children, no matter where we live, from where we come.

1229
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:58,000
In color, ability, it's just, it is just a real sad commentary on the current state of things.

1230
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:11,000
I really appreciate the statements made by the four city leaders as we got into our business meeting tonight.

1231
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:29,000
I'm grateful that the safety for the community rises to the top in what I heard all four of those people saying and that we as a council and just as human beings.

1232
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:36,000
Need to commit ourselves to the safety of our families and our neighbors.

1233
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:55,000
Thank you, councilmember. I'll just say one of the things that I will be looking at as we move forward and again, I appreciate that administrative leadership as well as the mayor have taken a vocal stance on this.

1234
02:03:55,000 --> 02:04:12,000
I also appreciate so much councilmember Doring and his taking the lead on this issue and I will be there to with him to bring items to this dyes if we need to.

1235
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:22,000
At this point, I think it's so important that we hear from our community I appreciate appreciate everyone who came here tonight and you were heard.

1236
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:34,000
I appreciate those that reach out to me and my colleagues on what's happening in in your lives and in your neighbors lives it's important for us to hear that.

1237
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:49,000
I think it's also very important as we move forward as leaders to recognize that I think as the chief said this is uncharted territory and when you're in that kind of environment.

1238
02:04:49,000 --> 02:05:09,000
The more information the better and so I will be pushing our administrative team to give us more information give and when I say us I mean myself and our residents who are all of my constituents as much information as we can.

1239
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:18,000
Even if we don't know the answer we should say we don't know and I know we do have a site that.

1240
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:36,000
That miss Motela has gathered a lot of frequently asked questions it's a it's a living site that is constantly being populated I think we need more visibility for that site on on our on our city website and.

1241
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:49,000
As I've heard a lot today from the administrator from the mayor we need to meet this moment and we need to to really respond to our community.

1242
02:05:49,000 --> 02:06:09,000
And and when they're hurting and and make sure we recognize that hurt is real so as we move forward you'll see hopefully more from us more visibility and we'll tell you when we don't have the answers.

1243
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:29,000
So with that council member Fredericks. Thank you Mayor Norton I want to thank you for your statement earlier I thought you did a very nice job on that and chief Franklin we appreciate what you're doing for this community you're putting a tough spot often by a lot of people and I think you did a very good job of addressing what was going on tonight and we fully support you.

1244
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:49,000
Councilmember Miller sure I'll just add I really appreciate all the people that came out to speak to us tonight and realize that people have other activities families commitments and there are many valid reasons that people wouldn't stay so I hope that people will take the opportunity to review the recording or perhaps they're watching live.

1245
02:06:49,000 --> 02:07:04,000
I hear loud and clear people are asking us to do something and I hear it in the area of public safety how do we reassure and I appreciate chief Franklin all of your reassurances of how we are engaging in public safety in the local work the ongoing commitments for right service.

1246
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:19,000
I share council president shoe brings expectation that those resources are very public and clear to community members to make sure that they are not assuming something in a void of silence.

1247
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:33,000
I'll also say that I share strong concern for school attendance for people to access work for people to access health care and to the.

1248
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:46,000
And what I feel like we don't yet have in an coordinated way and perhaps the AG's office has this is documented impacts of what's going on in our community and I would hope that we can work towards.

1249
02:07:46,000 --> 02:08:03,000
Making that clearer to us as policy makers and understanding because at the MLK event that the chamber and the end of place EP hosted on Monday, there were testimonies directly going to that and I suspect goes much farther than what we heard.

1250
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:16,000
So I would like to see some way that we receive reporting and understand how ice is impacting peoples health economics access education in our community.

1251
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:25,000
And I hear loud and clear that people are going to have economic impacts on their own personal lives and I would think of about specific things that we do have the power to do.

1252
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:36,000
We have the power to implement suspension of citations under a process for alternate side parking people are unable to move their cars it's knowing today people are making the choice between perhaps being ticketed.

1253
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:42,000
And moving their car to the other side of the street so the policy can move through and that's a very tangible thing that we could do.

1254
02:08:42,000 --> 02:09:00,000
We can reassure people of programs to provide utility bill relief and while we can't directly implement an infection moratorium I would just note that the Minneapolis city council has universally sent a resolution to governor walls asking him to declare an eviction moratorium.

1255
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:12,000
February 1st is coming really fast and I do worry that people will be choosing between basic needs going to work fear of detention and paying their rent and so I would.

1256
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:25,000
Absolutely support a resolution engaging that we share that fear and asking the governor and state to take action to make sure that people do not lose access to their housing and protection.

1257
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:30,000
Thank you thank you council member keen.

1258
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:44,000
Thank you this is good for me to kind of hear where my peers are at I approach this both personally but then also as a representative differently and I've been trying to work with.

1259
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:55,000
Our attorney and thinking of the bigger action so let me just start by like things have been very illities at my home and last couple of weeks.

1260
02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:02,000
The our national issues have come to our streets and our doorways and it's unsettling.

1261
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:13,000
I get to respond in two ways one is an individual but then it then as a representative as an individual I feel a lot more that I can respond from my gut and say.

1262
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:18,000
What should we do with our time and our talent and our treasure to support the community.

1263
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:30,000
As a as a city council representative I cringe when I find myself doing that I want to operate out of a place of data and we've all talked about it's one of our bigger problems right now with this we have.

1264
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:42,000
And to notes that we want to believe but then they're kind of we hear other things that we hear in testimony turn out not to be true and it's very difficult to get your arms around what we're really dealing with.

1265
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:53,000
But over the last week I have been exposed to some firsthand accounts and very much on methods and techniques that are happening in our streets that I just think we.

1266
02:10:53,000 --> 02:11:03,000
With our with our our public safety responsibilities must act on methods of profiling and targeting that put Rochester residents a danger.

1267
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:14,000
Before talking about the council here I want to talk about three other things three I three people I'm going to talk about that I think can come to bear on this first I want to call out to congressman Bradford said.

1268
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:33,000
I know the representative as an honorable man who wants the best for his community he's a good Christian and and he's looking at this as the bigger picture he does see the value in it and like so many is viewing this current problem and our streets is about a policy that differences on immigration.

1269
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:53,000
But I challenge congressman offense dad to change his frame and look at the methods being used in the impact it's having on his zone of self was Minnesota not just Rochester man Kato Austin like haven't looked at this not as a policy issue but as a methods that are coming to our community into our streets.

1270
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:14,000
Second I'll call out to Bishop Robert Baron Bishop Baron is my bishop because I'm a practicing Catholic here in the city and Bishop Baron and I share us Chicago history we went to rival high schools in the 70s I didn't know him he didn't know me we went different paths but we met about three years ago and he was first around here but again.

1271
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:23,000
Bishop Baron I mean he's written these letters and you can feel the pain in his voice he's struggling with this but he's also struggling with it as this.

1272
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:34,000
Politics and where the church belongs and where this is and again I challenge Bishop Baron to go deeper into the human rights side of this and go beyond the separation of church and state.

1273
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:49,000
I think that's the way people are going to be looking back at this in five and ten years and we should take that they take that lens at it right now.

1274
02:12:49,000 --> 02:13:02,000
Lastly I'll talk about our own police department in chief Franklin and chief Franklin I have been back and forth on this chief Franklin's in a difficult position because there are federal authorities operating in his city and they're not communicating with them.

1275
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:07,000
Challenges for sure but.

1276
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:22,000
Sorry let me get my but at the same federal authorities they're communicating outwardly that within days of arriving in Rochester they're rounding up murderers and thieves and drug drug dealers and I'm looking at this and going.

1277
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:28,000
How can this be true we have our own police department here we think they're competent they think they're doing all stuff so.

1278
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:49,000
I want to find help to get to the facts here and I'm challenging the police department to how can we get to the point that we know what's really happening in our streets when when there's no authority that reports objectively we are left to operate from a gut and as I say upfront I don't think we get good policy operating from the gut.

1279
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:55,000
I've come to believe that the best remedy for what's happening in our streets lies with the courts.

1280
02:13:55,000 --> 02:14:06,000
Following the success both Illinois and California head Minnesota is now suing the federal government this is our state's attorneys offices leading the lawsuit and some cities are signing on to it.

1281
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:13,000
I'm looking for ways you are legal department through through my peers to say what can we do in support of this.

1282
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:28,000
I think it's important that if there's a lawsuit that's from Minnesota it doesn't look like it's from Minneapolis it looks like it's from southern Minnesota it looks like it's from other parts of the state I think it makes it a more powerful statement.

1283
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:47,000
I don't know how we can come to bear I'm getting feedback that says stop don't make the lawsuit more complicated I'm getting feedback that says right a brief but as a council member I can't direct to that and an attorney's familiar Craig can't do it even if he wanted to because we are a deliberative body and we are a majority kind of rule thing and.

1284
02:14:47,000 --> 02:15:00,000
I guess I'm at the point now where I want to throw this out and see if we can do something like this and how we would do something like this and and that's where I'm at right now and I don't want to I really do a.

1285
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,560
I appreciate the idea of people like me or my wife going and helping and donating money or doing these

1286
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:10,760
other things. I think we can all do those as individuals and I think they're powerful. But what

1287
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:18,960
I'm looking for is how a legislative authoritative body can come to bear. And I don't think we're

1288
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:24,160
on the same place. But I think we've heard enough and I've heard enough for my peers up here. It says,

1289
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:31,280
there start to be some consensus. Thank you. Thank you councilmember. Anyone else want to be heard? I think

1290
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:40,160
I think at this point, I think our staff has heard the sentiments of the council and

1291
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:47,840
will continue to be discussing this and bringing things forward to the council

1292
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:55,120
dias as we move through this difficult issue. With that, is there a motion to adjourn?

1293
02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:04,720
Made by councilmember Fredericks. Seconded by councilmember Wall. All in favor say aye. All right.

1294
02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:07,600
Opposed. Say nay. We adjourned.