1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:12,719 To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:18,440 stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,440 for all. 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:34,439 » Okay. Call the meeting to order. Welcome Rick aboard here today. 5 00:00:34,559 --> 00:00:40,000 Uh agenda, any additions to the agenda, 6 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Kyle? >> We've added a number of attachments uh 7 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:50,239 yesterday. I think we added fund balances. We revised the bill list. Um 8 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:55,600 we added some things underformational uh including the fall conference in 9 00:00:53,280 --> 00:01:01,280 Baiji that the conference agenda is now attached. The uh drought disaster SBA 10 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:06,880 notification is also attached. And then we've also added under 8.7 discussion on 11 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:13,159 budget retreat. >> Okay. 12 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:13,159 Any additions from the board? 13 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,840 » Make a motion. >> Second that. 14 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,320 » Moved and second to approve the agenda August 18th. 15 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:27,200 Any other questions? All in favor signify by saying I. 16 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:33,799 » I. >> Opposed. [clears throat] 17 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:33,799 » Board minutes August 4th. 18 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:44,840 I make a motion. 19 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:54,560 » I will second that. Been >> moved and second to approve the board 20 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:59,360 for August 4th. Any other questions? All in favor signify by saying I 21 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:04,320 » I oppos. >> We do have one consent agenda. 22 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:08,959 » Yes, Mr. Chair. This is the computers providing technology CPT. They're they 23 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,959 provide our mainframe and Ashley's here al better if there's any questions, but 24 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:17,920 this is our main computer. Uh it reflected a 3% increase for the uh 25 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:24,640 three-year contract. 3% per year for each three years. Um it's KMA. It also 26 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,640 includes the assessing portion. Uh it's it's what we it's the backbone the IFS 27 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,640 piece. It's the backbone of what the county does as far as budgeting, 28 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:38,480 payroll, all of the things that that we uh uh that we do in the county program. 29 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Uh it goes through CPT. So I would recommend approval of this contract. 30 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,400 » Okay. 31 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:55,280 » I make a motion to accept the consent agenda item as presented. 32 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Second move and second to accept the consent 33 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:05,040 agenda as presented with the three-year contract for CPU. 34 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Any other questions? All in favor signify by saying I. 35 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,640 » I oppose Ashley. 36 00:03:11,917 --> 00:03:16,599 [clears throat] >> Morning. 37 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,599 » Good morning. 38 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:23,400 » I have no additions and no prediums. 39 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,599 Morning girl 40 00:03:38,117 --> 00:03:43,640 [laughter] [clears throat] walk again. 41 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,360 So I'll make a motion to approve the claims that 42 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:05,799 stand. >> I moved the second to approve the 43 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:05,799 claims. 44 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:12,640 » Any other questions on the claims? All in favor signify by saying I. 45 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,920 » Opposers. >> Fund balance. 46 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:22,639 » Fund balances are as of Friday, August 14th. Um really nothing unusual. We're 47 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:28,440 still um watching the transfer station, kind of trying to track the activity 48 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,440 there. But 49 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,639 » you mind me again, did that start coming back again or it's on horizon? 50 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,720 » Yeah, >> they have started they have started 51 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:41,440 backing up. >> Okay. 52 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,000 » When did that start last [snorts] week? >> Uh two weeks ago. to capital 53 00:04:42,963 --> 00:04:48,960 [clears throat] meeting that uh Commissioner Ogard and Hartman had with 54 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,600 their their folks up in Black County. >> Good. 55 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,240 » So, we'll probably have to try or transfer some at some point this year 56 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,400 just cuz we're not going to be able to make up the whole year worth of revenue. 57 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,520 But, we're kind of just going to let it go here for a little bit and see what 58 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:06,120 they actually need. >> Okay. 59 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,120 » And address it at that time. 60 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,800 » Make a motion to accept the fund balance as presented. 61 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:17,759 I'll second that. >> Moved and second to accept the fund 62 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:21,840 balance as presented. >> Any other questions? 63 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,240 » All in favor signify by saying I. >> I post. 64 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:38,000 » Now we have some warrants to do. >> Yeah, we have five batches of auditor 65 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:42,000 warrants. Um, again, normal bills. We just had the extra batch cuz the highway 66 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:47,153 batch came over later. Um, so it didn't get included in the main one. So that's 67 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,173 why there was two for the August 7th. [snorts] 68 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:59,880 » The last one for who? This one. >> All the highway. Okay. 69 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:13,039 I'll make a motion to approve the auditor warrants. 70 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,880 » I'll second that. >> Been moved and second to approve the 71 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:22,080 auditor warrants as presented. Any other questions on the warrants? 72 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:25,080 All in favor signify by saying I. >> Opposed. 73 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:33,199 Election review voter turnout. Um, for those that attended the canvasing board 74 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:38,000 meeting, um, this is old news for you. Um, but this is a spreadsheet I do every 75 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:43,759 year for the election just to kind of show you what our turnout was compared 76 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:49,600 to previous years. Um, just as I don't know,formational purposes. Um, so for 77 00:06:46,479 --> 00:06:55,120 this year, we had 6,393 registered voters as of 7 a.m. on 78 00:06:51,520 --> 00:07:00,319 election day. We had 38 new registrants uh for a total of 1,79 79 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:05,520 people that voted. Overall, the county's voter turnout was 26.73%. 80 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:10,639 Very comparable to the previous two primaries. Um 81 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:15,440 and then on the bottom I break it down further. So the townships that are 82 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:19,599 highlighted in blue, um those are the male ballot townships. So I always kind 83 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:24,479 of figure uh what's our mail ballot average? um cuz it tends to track higher 84 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:30,319 than the polling place. Um so on the bottom you'll see our mail ballot um 85 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:35,160 voter turnout was 31.04% uh compared to the polling place of 86 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,160 24.08%. 87 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:40,720 Again, those numbers are very comparable to the previous two primaries. I thought 88 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:44,960 it was going to be a little bit higher voter turnout um just because of the 89 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:51,759 city of Leverne primary and the special election for county commissioner, but um 90 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:55,520 it just wasn't. So Ashley, were there any mail-in ballots 91 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:01,440 that did not make it in time? >> Yes, we've we've received about 20 mail 92 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:04,560 and ballots. Yeah, unfortunately. Um, yeah, I don't 93 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,720 » we advised people not to mail them that close, but um again, we'll try and do 94 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:12,960 that more for the general. >> And did you look at like the post date 95 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,400 on them? Were they like you would consider them close also? 96 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:20,240 » Uh, oh, they mailed them. The post smart date was um the 10th or the 11th. So, 97 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:25,199 they mailed them the day before or the day of. 98 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:30,560 » So, yeah. Um, we didn't get any old like ones that had been like postmarked last 99 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:35,120 week or anything. They were ones that people dropped off on Monday or Tuesday. 100 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,080 » Can you explain again why you cannot drop election ballots off at the box in 101 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,080 the front with a >> um because there's Minnesota has a law 102 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:46,640 that you can only drop off ballots for yourself and three other people. And so 103 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:50,320 if we use the dropbox, then we have to have someone make sure that we're 104 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:54,000 watching that dropbox to make sure that you don't drop off 10 ballots. 105 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,399 » But yet I could probably drop pick all my neighbors ballots up and drop them in 106 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:59,920 the post office. >> Yes, that's very true. 107 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,560 » I don't make the laws, but >> but then don't we invested in cameras 108 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,519 out there >> for the sole purpose of election 109 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,040 security and then just security in of our building, 110 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,880 » right? >> But now we can't use that. We we could 111 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,519 use a drop >> because I'll be honest, I pulled up 112 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,080 there the other day. I Charlotte and I went out for dinner. We had to drop it 113 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,600 off and all a sudden look at the sign. I'm like, you got to be me. 114 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,440 » Yeah. So, they change like when we initially got the dropbox. There was no 115 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:29,279 rules against it. So, they changed it since we got the Dropbox and I could use 116 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:33,839 the Dropbox, but I don't have staff to monitor that video. Um, so we would have 117 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:38,560 to go in the Dropbox. >> But again, my point though, the law 118 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:43,360 makes zero sense when I can pick up everybody in my section. Mhm. 119 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,560 » Or I could just make up ballots. I mean, you know what I'm saying? They Whatever. 120 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:52,560 I'll die on that hill, but it makes zero sense to me that 121 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:56,000 » I agree. Yep. I know. Yeah. Unfortunately, we don't make that rule. 122 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,720 » I know you don't. But I think it's good for the public to know why they can't 123 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:00,959 drop it off, right, >> is my point. 124 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,720 » Yep. And when people ask, we tell them that. Um, and we did have a few people 125 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,440 drop them off. And so then we went back on the camera, figure out, you know, and 126 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:11,839 called them. And >> because of course, we waited till the 127 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,760 night before. Yeah. >> Well, I can't put it in the post office. 128 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:17,600 So, >> Right. Yeah. 129 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,279 » Yep. And I mean, if that's something that we want to do moving forward, we 130 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:25,279 can. I just don't have I don't have the staff capacity to monitor 131 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:28,079 » if someone has to physically watch a screen all the time to make sure. 132 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:32,320 » Well, we would have to go back through. So, like if on a Monday we pulled out 12 133 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:37,040 ballots, we would have to go back through the video and look at who 134 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:45,000 dropped off those ballots and figure out if they dropped off too many. 135 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 So, 136 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,200 » good. >> But I mean, if that's something that you 137 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,760 want to look into doing, I'm not saying, but like again, 138 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,839 » yeah, >> there's two sides of that coin there. 139 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,160 So, >> I totally get it. way to give feedback 140 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:59,839 to those that make that rule that that needs to be changed. 141 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,959 » Yeah. >> Like who do we let that know? 142 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,920 » That would be the legislators. >> Okay. 143 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:10,880 » Yeah. >> And I can see also um 144 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,399 all a suen you realize that I'm sure when you get get the ballots you can see 145 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:19,120 that I can't wait to mark the outside but all a sudden you see there's 146 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:23,040 » the penmanship's the same on 10 of them. Then to me that it prompt, hey man, we 147 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,440 should like security video to see >> right 148 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:27,279 » what's what's the miss here if there's something to miss 149 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:31,600 » right >> but thank you for the discussion 150 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:35,680 » and that's something that our association so like we get a lot of 151 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:39,360 kickback at the counter when people drop these ballots off and have to sign the 152 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:42,640 log. Um and so do other counties. It's not just us. And so that's something 153 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,480 that our association is also trying to change is trying to find a way to make 154 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,000 that process better because at the end of the day the staff are the ones that 155 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:56,079 are getting the grief for that law. >> And the problem is the issues aren't 156 00:11:54,399 --> 00:12:00,320 in rural Minnesota for the most part. I mean we take election uh security very 157 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,800 seriously. We do the canvasy board. We do a lot of due diligence to make sure 158 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:08,079 that we're in compliance. >> Right. 159 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:13,519 It's it's typical u someone to do wrong somewhere else and the rest pay for the 160 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:16,480 » Yes. Exactly. So y but no that is something our association has tried to 161 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,279 change. Unfortunately when it comes to elections it's hard to get any changes 162 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:23,839 made. Um but we fight for that every year. So 163 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,360 » thank you. Keep doing that. >> Yeah. 164 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:29,680 » Mr. Chair. >> Y couple things. You do you want to talk 165 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,680 about the extended hours and the traffic you had during the extended hours 166 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,120 periods? >> Sure. Um, so for the primary, we were 167 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:41,040 open the Saturday before just from 9:00 to 3. Um, I think we had about 10 people 168 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:46,160 come. Um, most of them were dropping off mail ballots. Um, I think we had like 169 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:50,160 three or four people vote uh due the early voting. Uh, we anticipate that the 170 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:55,279 traffic will be higher for the general. Um, just given the way the turnout goes. 171 00:12:53,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Um, but for the general, we have to be open the two Saturdays prior from 9:00 172 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:04,320 to 3 and then the Sunday prior from 9:00 to 3 and the Tuesday prior until 7:00 173 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 p.m. So, we have quite a few hours for the general. 174 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,880 » That's statute, too. [clears throat] >> That's also statute. Again, we're 175 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:14,639 tracking the traffic we have. Um, just because 176 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,480 they look for feedback. Are all these hours necessary or not? Like, if if 177 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:23,200 we're going to be open and people are coming, that's great. But if we're going 178 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:27,920 to be open and no one's there, it's you question whether or not it's worth 179 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:33,600 the cost. Um the Saturday before the election, we have a ton to do anyways. 180 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,200 So, it's not like we're sitting around um waiting for people to come in. We're 181 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:42,399 getting all the supplies ready, the rosters ready. Uh we're busy on that 182 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:48,480 day. Um so, that day is necessary regardless. But 183 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,839 » good one more comment if you don't mind, Mr. Chair. Ashley again runs a 184 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:57,519 spectacular election. Um I don't know if you're tracking it online with the 185 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:01,920 Secretary of State uh during during the actual election. Again this year, Ashley 186 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:07,360 uh during this past election, she was the first one reported 100% to the state 187 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:12,560 um by a margin. She's she's got it wrapped up. She's got her staff working 188 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:16,320 really really well uh efficiently. Um so just wanted to to recognize actually for 189 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:20,880 all the work she puts in. I mean the election is a multi-month event. It's 190 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:25,839 not a one day event. Um, and she does an absolutely phenomenal job running that 191 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:29,680 election. So, and we appreciate that. >> Thank you. I have a It takes a lot of 192 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:34,800 people. You're ever here on election night. And everyone's always welcome. 193 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:41,760 Um, it is it gets to be kind of crazy, but this is a new um spreadsheet that I 194 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:46,880 did this year. I'm wanting to kind of basically track more so the the people 195 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:51,839 coming to the courthouse to vote on election day. Um we're seeing a trend in 196 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:54,320 mail ballots where people don't want to use their mail ballot. They want to vote 197 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:58,240 in person, which is totally fine. They have that option. I just want to make 198 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:02,240 sure that we don't get to a point where we have like one township, none of them 199 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:08,320 are using their mail ballot and they're all coming here and that's going to bog 200 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:11,120 down the mail ballot polling place where maybe then we have to have a 201 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:14,959 conversation with that township or city and say, "Hey, it seems like your voters 202 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:19,120 really want to vote in person. Maybe we need to look at open up a polling place 203 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:23,279 for them." So, I'm just that's what the purpose behind this is to just kind of 204 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:28,000 track what that that foot traffic is because we've seen an uptick in people 205 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:33,199 coming to vote in person on election day um in the mail ballot precinct. So, 206 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:38,399 again, that's something we staff here as the county um in this room. So, and then 207 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,519 with the early voting, I kind of wanted to track that too. Uh we only had 26 208 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:47,920 people utilize that for the primary. Um it'll be interesting to see if anyone 209 00:15:45,199 --> 00:15:55,120 else um decides or if those numbers trend up for the general election. So 210 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,920 » that's a cool report. >> Yeah, it's just kind of fun to see how 211 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,519 people are are voting. >> Your numbers even matched your other 212 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,226 report. So >> good, right? [laughter] 213 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:25,199 All right. Um, I received, well, first I received this letter from 214 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,759 Louiswis and Clark requesting um, a property tax abatement for two of their 215 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:35,199 parcels. Um, this stems back to an email I received on July 6 from the Department 216 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:41,519 of Revenue. So, for some reason in like 2018, 2019, um the state of Minnesota 217 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:47,519 decided that they were going to tax the Louiswis and Clark um 218 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:52,880 basically like water lines um as state assessed property. Um I Lewis and Clark 219 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,160 didn't agree with that back in 2018 2019. So, there was kind of a a battle 220 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:02,240 between them and the state, but they never like formally filed anything in 221 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:08,559 tax court or went that route. Um, now the state is saying we were wrong. 222 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:12,640 Um, and they should be taxexempt. So then they sent us this email saying, 223 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:17,120 "Hey, this is what we came up with. Um, we anticipate that the company will be 224 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,559 reaching out to the counties." So we did get Lewis and uh correspondence from 225 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:24,079 Louiswis and Clark. So did Nobles County. Um, I've worked closely with 226 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,120 their auditor treasurer. I know Jeff has talked to their attorney as well to kind 227 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:32,960 of make sure we're on the same page here. Um, our policy follows statute 228 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:39,600 that we can abate the current year plus two years previous. Um, so I well Rachel 229 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:44,960 and I had them complete forms for 2024, 2025, and 2026 for each of their 230 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,559 parcels. Um, in the letter they state that they're discussing with their 231 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:53,679 attorney whether they have any legal avenues to pursue the remaining years. 232 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:59,520 Um, had they gone to tax court, I believe I'm they would have been able to 233 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:05,760 get everything back. Um, I'm not sure we have by statute any other basis to go 234 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:10,080 back further than the current year plus two years because that's our policy and 235 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,559 that's all that statute allows 236 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,360 » and they're they're too late to go back to to go to tax court now. 237 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,400 » Yes. Yep. Also, >> they would have had by April in order to 238 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:22,400 do that. >> Yep. 239 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:26,480 » So, I Mr. Chair, I I think it's important to stress how this happened. 240 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,720 This this wasn't a local assessor decision. Uh there's certain properties 241 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:36,000 out there that the state themselves take over and assess the value on power lines 242 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:41,200 and and uh different distribution type systems 243 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:45,760 including water. So they as the state took a look at this and made the 244 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:49,840 determination that it it should pay tax. And again, as Ashley said, Louiswis and 245 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Clark had the opportunity from day one to say, "Hey, this is wrong." And and 246 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:58,640 get a ruling and then take it to tax court and they opted not to. Um, and now 247 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:03,520 they've the state, as she said, rightfully is is agreeing that Lucen 248 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:09,200 Clark shouldn't pay tax. So, I I just as we have to pay this money back, if you 249 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,480 will, just recognize that this was what the state had done. Um, and it's very 250 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:16,960 similar to what happened in northern Minnesota on a much greater scale in 251 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,559 northern Minnesota with gas distribution lines where they were abatements were 252 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:26,640 multi-million dollars in very small counties. So, it's it's frustrating uh 253 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:30,840 that it was a state mistake and yet it's a very large local impact. 254 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,240 » Is there any way they have to pay it and not us? 255 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:39,600 » When they had when we went through the the gas line stuff, they had to get 256 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,960 legislative relief. They had to go through that process and I don't know if 257 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:46,960 they were actually fully successful in getting that. 258 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,520 » That was big. That was a lot of money. Yeah, that was big money. 259 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,640 » So, Jeeoff, we really don't have a choice. They're going to go back two 260 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:58,559 years. >> Well, I mean, your it's your abatement 261 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:03,440 policy allows the two years. There's no choice to go back farther than that. Um, 262 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,400 » does everybody's abatement go back two years? 263 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:09,760 » Well, that's the same as the statute. the two the two counties impacted by 264 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:13,200 this decision are Rock and mobile because that's where they have 265 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:20,400 distribution lines. >> Um I I I I don't think there's any 266 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:23,640 avenue to pursue any years in addition to these. 267 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:35,440 » There's certainly no authority for the board to do anything other than these. 268 00:20:33,919 --> 00:20:39,520 How long had Lewis and Clark been pursuing this? 269 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,559 » Uh, well, it started in 2018. >> Okay. 270 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:47,600 » Um, so had they like when it first when they first came on the tax roles, had 271 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:53,360 they filed tax court that year, um, then they could have gotten that ruling and 272 00:20:49,919 --> 00:21:00,080 then gotten all of their money back. Um but when you don't Yeah. It's just like 273 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:04,159 uh like me if I was going to argue mine I have to come to that board of 274 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:09,320 equalization meeting like tax court's their way of doing that process. herself 275 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,600 was the action then and the amount. 276 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:32,000 So the the total amount for that first the 03501 277 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:38,520 um is 29,246 and then for the parcel 06505 it's 48,94 278 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:46,720 » you just need a motion and approve the >> yeah you want one time or 279 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:52,240 » you can yes you can just do them all at once 280 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:58,039 which because each individually >> y right here I had it in summary form 281 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,960 that you are on. 282 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:20,799 » Okay. Entertain a motion to approve or disapprove. 283 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Mr. I'll make a motion to approve the uh tax abatements 284 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:29,159 that were presented for to listen for Luc and Clark. 285 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,159 » I will second that. 286 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:44,760 It's been moved and second to 287 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:52,240 approve the abatement to Lewis and Clark. 288 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Any other questions? We pulling this out of the general 289 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:01,200 account. Um, so we'll pay it out of the tax fund 290 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:06,320 and then, um, when we do distribution for second half, it will be subtracted 291 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:10,640 off of like ours, the cities, townships, school districts, and the states also. 292 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Uh, it will be a reduction in the amount we pay out to them. 293 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,960 » Okay. >> So, 294 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:19,440 » yeah, our our share is not the the 70s. We have a very we actually have a very 295 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,240 small share of that. >> Right. 296 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:29,320 » Okay. Any other questions? All in favor signify by saying I 297 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,320 » opposed. 298 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:34,559 » Sure. I did have one other question with that. Do we let the other entities know 299 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:38,080 then Ashley that they're going to have that reduction or 300 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,919 » uh Yeah, normally for larger ones I reach out to them. Um for school 301 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:45,919 districts, I have to um Okay. >> So I'll let those townships know. 302 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:49,120 » The city is aware of this already. >> Are they? 303 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:51,760 » Yeah. And we had our same town leasing there discussing this. 304 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,240 » Sure. >> Yeah. Good. Good. 305 00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:00,440 » All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank your staff for us too. 306 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,440 » I will do that. Thank you, 307 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,559 » Kell. >> Good morning. 308 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:07,559 » Morning. Morning. 309 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:22,559 » I'm here with a travel request. Next month, this September 16th through 310 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:27,200 the 19th is my annual rural and small libraries conference in Montgomery, 311 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:33,360 Alabama. So, I was looking for permission to attend that. 312 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:39,039 It's um it's something I've gone to for the last I think seven years now and it 313 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:43,440 I should have led with this. It's 100% paid for. So, I've got a scholarship to 314 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,559 go. So, it won't cost the county anything except for I'll be out of the 315 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:53,600 office for that time. So, I've gotten a scholarship from Prairie Lands to go to 316 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:57,919 that. And uh I've presented at this conference before. It's a great 317 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:04,559 conference. It is like the title says, it is just for rural and small 318 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:09,600 libraries. So, I it is really great educational experience. I get to meet 319 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:15,760 people from all over the country, from libraries, similar sizes, similar staff, 320 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:19,279 uh similar staffing. Um it's it's a really great experience. So, uh if you 321 00:25:18,307 --> 00:25:24,240 [clears throat] would be willing to give me permission to attend that, that would 322 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:29,840 be wonderful. I'm glad to answer any questions about it. 323 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:33,440 » Prairie Land is a good partnering for Yeah. 324 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:39,960 » So, yeah, I think it's a good deal. I'll make that motion. 325 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:39,960 to approve the out ofstate travel. 326 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:48,559 » I'll second move and second to allow 327 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Cal for the out of state travel to where? Georgia, 328 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000 » Alabama. >> Alabama. 329 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:56,080 » Yep. >> Any other questions? All in favor 330 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,799 signify by saying I. >> Opposed. 331 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,120 Kyle, we will wait for Ryan if you want to go toformational. 332 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,640 » Sure you can. >> Does that work? Thanks, Kelly. 333 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,320 » Thank you. >> When was that exactly? 334 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:13,760 » September 16th through the 19th. >> Alabama. 335 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,480 » Yeah, it could be fun. >> Thank you. 336 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,120 » Association. >> Uh versus 337 00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:29,279 now, this one for us coming up >> is association counties. Uh I believe 338 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Commissioner Rice has gone to this one a couple times and it was in Alexandria. 339 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:38,559 Now they've moved it to Baiji. Um, so this is a prime example why it got 340 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:42,320 moved. Uh, what when you don't take care of a facility. 341 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Oh, I heard it wasn't very good. Railro had turned into an absolute uh 342 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:53,679 disappointment as far as upkeeping their facilities. That's I'm 343 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,480 sure that's 100% why I got moved. So they at our last conference they they 344 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:02,159 they're concerned. Bumiji is a long way from the southern part of the state. So 345 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,080 they're concerned about attendance, but um if anyone would like to attend 346 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,400 certainly it would be nice to have representation up there. This is the 347 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:14,640 platform development going into the legislative session next year. So I I 348 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:20,279 had planned on going and then I sent this in Miji and then I'm not going to 349 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:20,279 go. So 350 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:27,919 » I just got a scheduling conflict. So >> and you can certainly talk with me after 351 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,760 the meeting if anybody wants to. What what's good about it what's good about 352 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:36,159 the meeting though it's it's it's a working meeting and so and what 353 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:41,600 committee like on my general government uh there's a lot of a lot of time spent 354 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:45,480 hashing over state like for general government um 355 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,360 anything that's important in the in the various counties that are that should be 356 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:56,000 brought up to a platform and that's discussed whether it goes up to you know 357 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:02,880 presented at the the the meeting December to be on the legislative, you 358 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:08,159 know, radar and things to fight for. So, it's it's a great meeting. Uh I I've 359 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,240 actually enjoyed the uh sausage making, so to speak, because there's a lot of a 360 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,039 lot of debate that goes back and forth and a lot it's it's a good time to 361 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:20,200 listen to the arguments and why something's important to one part of the 362 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:20,200 state or not. So, 363 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:29,720 » but Biji, for Pete's sake, Biji's a long way. 364 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,720 make it say cloud at least 365 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:42,720 southwest Minnesota no and of course Murray do any of them throw some 366 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,520 feedback to them like hey wait a minute this is too far 367 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,000 » I think Jean is still on the AMC state board so it' be good to to let Jean know 368 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,039 that something a little more centrally located but I think draw a better crowd 369 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:02,919 » would you do that work. Absolutely. >> You think we should do that, guys? Let 370 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,919 him know that. Let Jean know that. 371 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,760 » How long did you take to give up a movie? 372 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,600 » Got to be five. Five and a half. >> Five and a half at least. 373 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:19,350 » It's about six. [clears throat] >> Someone would know. Someone 374 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:21,370 » you want to represent us at the meeting. [laughter] 375 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:28,640 » It's a beautiful place to go visit. I'm glad it's not the dead of winter. 376 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,320 » Yeah, >> leaves would be changing. Cool drive. 377 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:40,399 Building projects updates. Uh we're wrapping up pretty much everything that 378 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:44,559 was was still going on. We've got a little bit left out at the armory. Uh 379 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,760 fencing in the back. Yesterday they planted the the grass seat in the front. 380 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,360 They still had the rail on the ramp to do. and they're still having a struggle 381 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:59,919 with the uh uh the push button entry to the armory. It's uh the cylinder for 382 00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:04,480 disability disability challenges. So, they're they're struggling getting the 383 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,840 cylinders replaced down there for entry. Um but other than that, this building 384 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,520 they the balancers are in. They're the ones that are figuring out the HVAC. 385 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,360 HVAC's all been installed and finished, but the balancers come in as the 386 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:19,039 finishing touch to make sure that the systems are are married up tight with 387 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,880 the uh [clears throat] thermostats and stuff like that. So, 388 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:26,559 it's it's coming together. I I know the sheriff's had some challenges. He's had 389 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,960 he's here if he wants to talk about with the HVAC out in their building. I think 390 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:35,360 we could see some bigger bigger expenses out there right now with 391 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:38,320 different compressors and and issues. That building is 20 years old and we're 392 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:44,000 starting to see some things out there wear out as well. So that's um we have 393 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,760 uh resources in the capital fund to to fix those. I'm I'm not talking hundreds 394 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:52,000 of thousands of dollars out there, but it's still going to be a a cost to get 395 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:56,640 get some things fixed out at law enforcement building. Other than that, 396 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,279 buildings are plugging along pretty good. 397 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,840 » Have they solved the problem with the HVAC in the meeting room? 398 00:31:01,531 --> 00:31:05,760 [clears throat] >> I think so. They had to have same same 399 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,559 type of thing. had the balancers come in at the end of the project to try marry 400 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,640 up the Hback to the thermostats and make sure I you'll you'll see few later on 401 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,760 the agenda. We're actually going to move down there for a couple meetings in 402 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,240 October because they're going to use this room for the election stuff. So 403 00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:27,360 we'll have a chance to to hang out in there for a little bit. 404 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:31,679 Um appoint Commissioner Peterson alternate to Southwest Health Service. 405 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,960 Commissioner Overgard is in uh he's gone for tomorrow's meeting. Commissioner 406 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:37,919 Rich is going, but because they're setting their budget, we're actually 407 00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:42,159 mentioning our lay person representative as well. So, if Commissioner Peterson 408 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,679 has expressed an interest in going, so then we would at least have two votes at 409 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,399 the table tomorrow for Rock County. >> Okay, that'd be good. 410 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:57,080 » So, that would be if you want to do it by [clears throat] the chair or 411 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,080 » order the chair. Okay. 412 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,840 uh drone disaster. There's not a lot to talk about on this. We did put this out 413 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,159 on our Facebook page. I know that the headline says for Iowa businesses and 414 00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:15,919 private notes, I get it. Um but Minnesota counties, nobles, and rock are 415 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,720 eligible. This actually stems back to that very short period of time we were 416 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,919 in drop monitor three. Uh so SBA is a small business administration and you 417 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:30,880 can see the details down here. They can do loans. Um interest rates are 4% for 418 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:36,559 small businesses, 3.65 and up to 30 years. Uh the process to apply is is 419 00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:41,120 also disclosed there. But I the more we can get the word out if you have to be 420 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:46,960 somehow impacted uh by the drought, but you can certainly uh you can certainly 421 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:55,919 see how that would be in this area based community that we are. So uh that's 422 00:32:51,279 --> 00:33:00,159 for information purposes only. Okay. And now would be a good time to switch 423 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:06,519 to Ryan if you wouldn't mind, Mr. Chair. >> Okay, Ryan, did you get an air? Okay. 424 00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:14,360 » Good morning everyone. >> Morning. 425 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:22,720 So, uh, I am asking for permission for out of state travel to attend the, uh, 426 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:28,240 national railwater conference in Phoenix, September 14th through the 427 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:33,919 16th. Um, I would actually fly out on the 10th and fly back the 17th because 428 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:41,880 there is national meetings the 11th and the 12th, I believe. So, and that's all 429 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,880 paid for by National Real Water. 430 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,000 I'll make a motion to approve. >> I will second that. 431 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,840 » We moved and second to allow Ryan to attend Row Water. 432 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,120 » What town? >> Phoenix. 433 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:01,760 » All in Phoenix. All in favor signify by saying I 434 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:05,279 » should just be getting down to mid 90s though. 435 00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:08,960 » Nice time to fally get down to about mid 90s in September or so. That's my uncle 436 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:11,359 has a house there and he was telling me it's pretty pretty miserable there in 437 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,720 September. >> Oh, really? 438 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:20,960 » Want to give an update on the water tower project? 439 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:26,240 » Yeah. Uh, sure. So, the um I think I was uh in front of the board 440 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:33,280 a couple of meetings ago. We did get our uh EPA funding through uh to finance the 441 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:39,760 gap in the tower. Right now, um all of the site piping is done. The base for 442 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:44,639 the new water tower is done. The generator base is done. Um, so if you 443 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:47,359 drive by, it doesn't look like much. Right now, it looks like a couple pieces 444 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,399 of cement sticking out of the ground. Uh, they're hoping in September or 445 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:55,679 October is when they're actually start steel construction. Um, Magguire Iron is 446 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:58,960 the one that uh got low bid on this tower, which is, you know, right when 447 00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:03,440 you're coming into Sou Falls on 90 on the right hand side. You can see they 448 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:06,960 got them big prefab pieces. So, they do not completely build them on site 449 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:12,880 anymore. They prefab a lot of it, truck it out, weld it all together there. And 450 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,320 they're hoping to put the um 451 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,599 the mechanical part of the tower together over the winter and then 452 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:24,720 they'll have the summer for coatings because coatings are very specific with 453 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,520 temperature and and humidity and wind and all that stuff. So I think 454 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:33,839 substantial completion is I'd have to double check, but I believe it's like 455 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:40,720 September 15th of 2027. So, and I think final was late October somewhere in 456 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:44,800 there. So, so we should we all know how these projects go. As of 457 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:49,920 right now, Rock County Ro Water will spend zero on this tower. 458 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,359 » But we don't have a tower yet, so we'll see change orders and things like that. 459 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,280 We'll we'll see how it goes. >> Takes patience on something like this. 460 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,119 You just say, "Come on, let's go. Let's get this done." And 461 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,720 » yeah, >> don't happen. There's supposed to be 462 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:08,320 contingencies built in already, but we'll see. So, so yeah, that's going 463 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,315 well. And the drought is definitely affecting us. We've had really high 464 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,800 demands. Um the wall level levels, >> [snorts] 465 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:21,200 » uh the statics in our wells have continued to to drop. So hopefully we 466 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,000 start getting rain soon or we have snow this winter, one or the other, because 467 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,400 it's been a drought for a couple of years for, you know, for the system 468 00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:29,680 really. >> What was your highest day back when it 469 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:34,000 was hot? 1.4 4 million. >> Yep. July 28th was our peak day so far. 470 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,880 And I would assume we're through the peak. 471 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,359 » Yeah. >> You know, that was the time um um you 472 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:45,119 know, it was really hot, really humid. I think there was farmers out spraying. 473 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,680 That was our peak day. So, >> takes a lot of electricity to pump 1.4 474 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,640 million. >> It does. It does. 475 00:36:50,000 --> 00:37:00,000 » You can see as of as of the 11th, we're at 97.32% of the county is D2 to D4. 476 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:06,560 um which is kind of that light or brownish color. Uh right now 477 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:12,240 there aren't any counties in D3. Um but if you go back you can see that 478 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:17,119 we hit D3 right there about June. So that's why we're eligible 479 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:23,560 for certain programs now. D3 is a big trigger for uh for different 480 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,560 programs. 481 00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:36,960 So with that grant, the SBA loan, is there any need or uh that you would need 482 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:40,160 to apply for that? >> Uh this is the first I've heard about it 483 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:48,240 to be honest with you. >> Um when when Ryan pursues dollars, you 484 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:53,680 know, through uh different funding sources, we would pay less than the 3.65 485 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:57,461 65 for pretty much any money that he's gonna get through the state or federal 486 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,800 government. [clears throat] 487 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:06,560 » I think our large loan that we have for the Northern expansion is at roughly 2%. 488 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:10,240 The last one we just took for a land acquisition for Wallhead Protection, I 489 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,800 believe we're at one or one and a half. I'd have to double check on that. So, 490 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:21,520 the rates that we can get as a public water supplier are really low through 491 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,520 government programs. 492 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,320 Okay. >> Okay. 493 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,920 » Thank you. >> Y 494 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,040 » Brian, did you say yes to that national convention or national board that we 495 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,920 asked you to be on? >> I did. 496 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,000 » That's why I'm going. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, that's early and Yeah. Okay. 497 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:42,240 » Yeah. We'll see how it goes. >> Good. Good luck. 498 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:47,359 » Thank you. >> Um couple more things before we take a 499 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:52,079 quick break. Sure. Um, Commissioner Rich and Susan and I sat in with the city of 500 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,480 Leverne folks regarding the uh discussing health insurance. Um, and 501 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:01,680 this [snorts] Mariagner 502 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:07,760 » Mari Wagner is is an agent uh that would work with us on on helping us find a 503 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:13,119 more competitive health insurance as well as other benefits. 504 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:17,920 uh first step would be to engage her through a through a letter so she can 505 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,680 speak on our behalf. Um there is a cost if we get farther down the road and I 506 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:27,440 think it's you need to be aware of that that the fee that she charges $25,000 507 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,119 for our size of group to be the agent. I think that was the number she disclosed. 508 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:36,000 » Yeah, that's how she gets paid. Yeah. >> Now understand that she doesn't say it 509 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,560 the way the industry says it but agent record letter. you're we're firing our 510 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:46,400 current broker. That's what that means. She's not Some agents will try to say, 511 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:50,560 "Well, sign this. I can help represent you." Not knowing that you're actually 512 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:55,920 firing your current relationship. As long as everybody understands that, 513 00:39:52,480 --> 00:40:01,359 she will be our appointed agent broker. >> You want to weigh in on me? 514 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:08,000 » Uh, she'll be our if if we go that route. Correct. 515 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:13,359 » An agent or maybe get clarification from her to understand. But typically what 516 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:16,880 they'll do is, "Hey, you got a homeowner's insurance and I'm with 517 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:22,160 another company." And I go, "Hey, Susan, you know, if you just sign this, I I can 518 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,680 represent you." What they're not telling me is on agent 519 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,839 of records, you're actually firing your current agent. They no longer the new 520 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:36,240 agent has the representation of you, not the old agent. So I want to I I meant to 521 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:42,160 say it the other day in that meeting >> that was not that wasn't that was not 522 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:47,680 » I think I think before we take action on that we need clarification on that that 523 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,720 is this going to jeopardize any of our current relationships that we have with 524 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:58,880 the current broker >> and I didn't right uh I didn't get that 525 00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:03,359 understanding that it that it would otherwise either way she doesn't need 526 00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:09,440 I think this I thought my impression of this letter is just saying she is 527 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:15,119 requesting our data from these other brokers to see if they can she can RFP 528 00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:18,720 it and get us a better deal. >> But I think there clarification on that 529 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:22,079 because that's >> all right. 530 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:26,079 » Let's let's hold off two weeks on this. I'm Mr. 531 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:30,000 » We should be getting our current health insurance and and for one thing 532 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:35,599 » it's my understanding we were just looking we're our focus was on the group 533 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,400 medical not our ancillary benefits >> but 534 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,000 » and I know they would want to package it all together 535 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:47,520 » if it makes sense >> if if it makes sense but um 536 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:50,800 uh she want the the the fee she was proposing because they want she wants to 537 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,800 do Not only the things but they 538 00:41:53,520 --> 00:42:01,280 yeah her involvement would be way more at a higher level than what we're doing. 539 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,560 » Yeah. There's more value as services that that she's that she presented to us 540 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,720 to hopefully >> which she would be we would be paying 541 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:13,520 for. >> Yeah. And then long-term thinking, uh, 542 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:20,160 retirements do happen and so this might be an opportunity to, 543 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:24,560 uh, rely on some other folks for some level of expertise that maybe 544 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,200 we are currently taking care of internally too. So, 545 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:36,680 uh, if I could just add a little discussion on this. Um, so when we did 546 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,680 union negotiations, um, 547 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,960 I don't know how many years now. And when you meet with the employees and 548 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,720 stuff, our our health insurance is unaffordable. Okay. Uh, we're we're good 549 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,160 and we basically pay the premiums for a single person off of. And if you're a 550 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,880 family though and you're trying to get health insurance, it's cost prohibitive. 551 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:02,000 uh and it we're no different though than a lot of other private employers and 552 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:07,280 other entities. It's just very expensive. 553 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:12,560 So then it one of the promises I made and we made as a as the uh personnel 554 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:20,400 community was that we would do a do our due diligence to really try to find 555 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:23,280 other opportunities to look at good good healthc care coverage out of 556 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,040 more affordable means. Whether that means partnering up with the city of 557 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:30,880 Lever or other buying groups to try to get our numbers big enough because what 558 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,920 happens is in the health insurance market, 559 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:41,280 you know, they they take a they look at your group and depending on 560 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:45,119 the age of the group. I hate to say it, but there there is discrimination based 561 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:51,760 on the age because typically uh the older we get, the more health 562 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:57,839 care concerns we do have. Uh and that's all taken taken well 563 00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:02,079 when you got such low turnover in an organization. So you're we're grateful 564 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:07,040 to have uh employees that stay with us for a very long time and their whole 565 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:16,000 career. Well, you're not necessarily getting a new younger uh buying group in 566 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:20,800 there. So it it it's it's uh it's problematic to to find affordable 567 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:23,839 healthcare insurance. So and that's why we started having this discussion. I 568 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:28,560 thought it was a great meeting, something to think about. 569 00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:33,280 I'm going to rely heavily on Susan for her years of experience and dealing with 570 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:40,720 all this. So, um, wow. The the information that we 571 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:43,520 saw, the comparisons, our rates were our health insurance rate were very similar, 572 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,160 » right, >> to what the city had. It's just that 573 00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:49,680 it's how we what we're giving the employee, 574 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:54,319 » right? >> You know, 575 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:58,319 » you know, they're they're single they're single elections. They're paying the 576 00:44:56,319 --> 00:45:04,079 same premium dollar, but they're choosing to uh use a different formula 577 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:10,319 and how they uh how the employee pays for it. As he said, single coverage for 578 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:14,560 our employees is that's and our definition of the benefit will pay for 579 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:21,839 single healthc care coverage for this 100%. So our our employees that have 580 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:27,440 like a single coverage pay zero whereas uh with the city um they do have a cost. 581 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:32,319 they pay a percentage of that cost as they do pay a percentage. It's based on 582 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:39,839 a percentage of what that premium is. So they are paying more uh the families are 583 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:45,520 paying less because the singles are paying more are also paying as well. So 584 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,880 it's just a different formula who's paying the premium, 585 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:53,680 » right? And I'm glad we had the meeting because uh often, you know, we get in 586 00:45:51,520 --> 00:46:00,240 our own silos as far as city, county, townships, state, you know, we don't 587 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:04,720 reach out to our partners. And the discussion we gather a lot of good data 588 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:08,319 there from how the city uh runs their benefits uh for their employees to make 589 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,960 sure that, >> you know, are we are we in line? are we 590 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:22,079 offering or is there an opportunity to pull together and and uh get more for 591 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:25,359 less? So, um we agreed to um have some timelines going forward. It's 592 00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:30,880 too it's too fast this year because we're coming up in November for our open 593 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:35,839 enrollment, but we didn't want it to uh fall by the wayside. So, we do have some 594 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:41,920 hard dates on the calendar to to uh have discussions going forth in 2027. So, 595 00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:45,599 I said, "Let's just check on that. We'll get clarification on this and bring it 596 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:49,680 back at the next meeting if that's I'm hoping I'm wrong." 597 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,160 » Thanks for the description because I was wondering why didn't we meet with the 598 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:58,640 city and Yeah. makes sense. >> Well, I think the whole task I think is 599 00:46:56,319 --> 00:47:02,599 just to form some sort of a I mean they were using term a JPA. 600 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,880 » But we do have >> to do a initiative or for benefits. Mhm. 601 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:15,040 » And we do get some comments from our employees about, you know, why can't we 602 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,960 do something more family? >> Yeah. 603 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,680 » Sure. >> Well, because you want you want to 604 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:25,440 attract families, >> you know, and it feeds our community, it 605 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:29,200 feeds our school systems, everything. It feeds everything. So, I mean, you you 606 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:33,760 want to promote that, but yet we don't want to lose 607 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:39,920 » young talented workers to the private industry because they do provide a 608 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:39,920 better healthare plan. So, 609 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:47,920 Okay, Kyle, you want to finish up? >> I I would like to do 86 and then we'll 610 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,000 take a quick break. How's that sound, Mr. Chair? 611 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,000 » That sounds good. >> So, just note 86 for the public and for 612 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,880 the county board. We are moving on October 20th, which is two weeks prior 613 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,720 general election, and November 3rd, which is the actual general election 614 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,200 day. Yes, we can meet on general election day as long as we're adjourned 615 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:11,258 before 7 p.m. which for this board should not be a problem. [laughter] 616 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:19,359 So, so, so on those two, so on those two days, we will be down at the um on 617 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,240 Freeman Street Guild Armory just so you can put it in your calendars and know 618 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:26,160 that we'll be moving down there. >> It's a nice meeting room. 619 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:29,839 » It is. It's very nice. Yeah. >> And then if we'll save the budget until 620 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:38,119 the end of the meeting if that's okay, Mr. Chair. works. Okay. 621 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,119 Okay. We'll take a short break. 622 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:51,720 Okay. 10:00. Uh Allan, you can uh discuss what you got with you today. 623 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,720 All right. 624 00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:08,800 Hi, County Board. So, I'm back. I don't know if you guys uh do 625 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:14,000 you guys all read my email that I sent you leading up to this. Yeah. Okay. All 626 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:19,920 right. I know Commissioner Peterson's new, but um a couple months ago um I was 627 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:25,040 in the process of working with the county board on the most optimal 628 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:29,760 solution for automating the recording or the streaming of the county board 629 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:35,119 meetings. And um 630 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,800 I was kind of going through a little bit of a pretty strong burnout on my end. I 631 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:45,040 was coming in twice a month for about 6 hours including uh setting up equipment, 632 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:49,839 tearing down equipment, doing the post processing and editing of things 633 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:55,520 um and balancing all my other projects at the same time. So what I was really 634 00:49:52,079 --> 00:50:02,240 pushing for was some sort of automated um way of of providing the um the 635 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:08,400 community with the recorded asset of the county board meetings. 636 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:13,440 And this is uh actually this is Dion's meeting owl 3 and uh another friend of 637 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:17,520 mine Amos KDson who is very uh technologically savvy who lives in 638 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:25,280 Hills. He also recommended this meeting owl 3 and um this I'm requesting the 639 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:31,599 county to uh explore the purchasing of this piece of technology. It's a it's 640 00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:38,240 it's $1,100 for the piece of technology. Um, and it is simply plugged into a 641 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:44,559 computer through USBC. Most likely we could uh plug it into what do you know 642 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,280 what the exact PC system is that's powering that? No, 643 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:52,000 » it's underneath the counter. >> It's underneath that. Okay. 644 00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:57,520 So, but it [clears throat] is its own PC block. That's right. So, that PC will 645 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:03,440 almost certainly have a USBC connector or if I need to get an adapter, I can. 646 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:08,079 At that point, all we do is we just uh we just have a little line that's 647 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:14,559 running up till right here. And the power is obviously right under the 648 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:20,559 table. Um and then we just have Kyle uh or Susan, one of you two most likely to 649 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:26,800 just be on logged into the Rock County uh YouTube channel. Then you just type 650 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:34,160 in county board meeting uh August 18th, 2026 and you click stream using this as 651 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:43,240 the microphone and this as the video camera. And then what this looks like is 652 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,240 let me pull it up for you to see. 653 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,000 So, 654 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:57,920 so do you see how it's doing this? Uh, it has a panoramic view at the top. Can 655 00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:01,520 you guys see that? Okay. Okay. It Oh, did I go the opposite direction? Oh, I 656 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:06,000 did. Okay. I'm brightness. There we go. So, that's the panoramic view at the 657 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:12,160 top. Then, anytime that someone starts speaking, so for example, if I 658 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:17,280 would one of you start [snorts] Good morning. 659 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:22,800 » You guys saw that, right? So, the AI system immediately detected that Mr. 660 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:27,119 Pearson was speaking and boom, we have whoever is going to be speaking and 661 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:34,559 he'll turn off after, you know, 10 seconds of inactivity, the it'll 662 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:39,280 discontinue uh streaming him directly. So then if multiple people are talking 663 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:43,040 at once, it will pull up all three or four of their faces individually if 664 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:50,000 there's three or four people here and there people there discussing. So 665 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:55,920 it's a really nifty um step towards automation. Um, so again, rather than 666 00:52:53,359 --> 00:53:00,880 creating another tax burden on the county of having another staffer or 667 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,599 another employee that needs to do all of this stuff, instead we can get it all 668 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,760 the way to this point of automation. We don't create that extra tax burden. All 669 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:15,200 we do is we just buy the one-time piece of technology and then we just click 670 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:19,680 stream uh at the beginning of the county board meetings and then that asset gets 671 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:24,000 to live on um permanently for people to use for transcripts or for community 672 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:27,440 engagement or for holding accountability, [clears throat] 673 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:35,839 holding transparency, things like that. Um 674 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:42,000 all right. Uh any thoughts? Um, any questions also? 675 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:50,880 Oh, and also before that I say also the Star Herald has also been interested in 676 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:56,319 some sort of of a of a of a recording or a streaming of the county board meetings 677 00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:03,200 as well um to be a permanent asset ongoingly. So, I do see this as a a good 678 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,119 opportunity for multiple people's wishes or desires to be fulfilled, including 679 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,520 residents and business owners to be able to tune into specific aspects that they 680 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:17,119 may not have seen and that they want to see deeper engagement of than just the 681 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:22,119 meeting minutes themselves. Um, all right, go ahead and fire away. 682 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,800 Well, this is involves money, so we'll have to go through budget. Uh, we could 683 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,319 probably u bring this up again with a full board 684 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,520 here. We're missing one commissioner today. So, that's probably what'll 685 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:46,559 happen. What I'm thinking anyhow, what are you guys thinking? Wait to see. 686 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,119 » Yeah. >> Did you say 11, excuse me, 687 00:54:48,137 --> 00:54:57,599 [clears throat] $1,100? >> Yes, it is $1,100. Yeah. It's called the 688 00:54:52,480 --> 00:55:00,319 meeting owl 3 if you want to look it up. >> Would it [clears throat] 689 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,920 in your conversations with the stars would they be interested in actually 690 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,400 hosting the YouTube channel and owning the data? I I still have a a little bit 691 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:12,640 of a concern about how we do data storage and retention and records, that 692 00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:21,200 kind of stuff with >> Well, at minimum, um YouTube is its own 693 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:27,040 um form of store of the information, the data, you know, if you have to have 694 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:32,079 another private uh copy on top of that. Um, I think I did the math and you only 695 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:37,599 need a a two terbte hard drive for I think a year of recording, which is 696 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:45,200 $100, something like that. Um, do we need another digital copy that's stored 697 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:49,359 uh on top of the YouTube stream? I'm not >> sure. Other people are setting up their 698 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,440 data on those types of things. Obviously, people stream meetings. It's 699 00:55:51,520 --> 00:56:01,440 it's but it's something we'd have to just look at. I don't 700 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:05,359 I don't I don't know that it I mean it's it's on the channel. It's just a 701 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:09,440 question I suppose of when it gets deleted off the channel. That would be 702 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:14,079 because that could be I think could be your data. 703 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:18,319 But you have to have something in your pioneer records retention policy saying 704 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:21,319 how long the meetings are going to be on there. 705 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,520 The other thing we'll have to discuss with Jeff too is I don't know if we can 706 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,400 I don't have a clue if we can allow county employee or the commissioner to 707 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,280 touch any of this equipment. >> But I think what he's proposing is that 708 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:40,079 you own it. >> You own it. Yeah. 709 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:44,400 » Yeah. So this would be Rock County owned equipment. It would literally sit on 710 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:48,240 this table in perpetuity and then it would be connected permanently in 711 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,079 perpetuity and we would just click stream at the beginning of every board 712 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,680 meeting. >> Are there any state statutes that 713 00:56:53,359 --> 00:57:00,720 require you have to broadcast? We can we can allow broadcast anybody can 714 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,160 broadcast but there's no uh requirement of the board to broadcast 715 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:09,520 the meetings. Correct. >> No. 716 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:13,839 » Yeah. It's I mean Yeah. 717 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:20,640 I mean my personal perspective on it is is that I think America in general, the 718 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:24,240 world in general as well as uh state governments, county governments, city 719 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:29,040 governments in general are moving towards complete and utter transparency. 720 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,880 » I have no problem with transparency. >> Yeah, 721 00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:34,720 » I have zero problem with that. I just want to know what stat what state 722 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,079 statute requires me to do. >> So, 723 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:40,160 » right. Right. >> Under the fourth amendment or 724 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:45,040 » Well, just just or whatever. So, I have no no problem 725 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:49,359 with transparency. So, >> yeah. And 726 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:55,760 right now, to my understanding, it's not that state law mandates that meetings 727 00:57:53,119 --> 00:58:02,880 are uh recorded and broadcasted to the public, but it is highly encouraged for 728 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:09,520 transparency and for accountability, for there to be um if you do have the means 729 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:15,680 to do so. and there is the community interest in doing it. Um it ends up 730 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:18,880 serving as an extremely valuable asset. >> Sure. 731 00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:23,839 » Yeah. >> We'll take another um 732 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:29,680 » so what's so what's the plan then with the do I have to come back and do this 733 00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:33,920 again to when the um commissioner Overgard's present as well? 734 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,280 » Don't know. I think we we have a couple questions we 735 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,359 need to get answered and certainly we'll report back to the county board on 736 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:44,160 those. >> I don't you're welcome to come back and 737 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:47,599 do it again, but uh I think we can just bring it to have a discussion at the 738 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:52,160 next meeting if if you want to purchase the owl uh all three. Is that right? 739 00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:59,599 » Yep. Meeting all three >> and to uh put it on YouTube. So 740 00:58:55,359 --> 00:59:04,160 » Okay. Pretty pretty easy. So, so then um you you will have it on the agenda for 741 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:10,795 the next meeting to discuss whether you want to purchase it. Is that the plan? 742 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,079 » Actually, before the first of the year, [laughter] 743 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:18,640 » well, do we need to do it during budgets? Look at all that. I think we 744 00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:20,799 have some questions. Could probably get those answered before then, but 745 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,960 » yeah, >> I don't think it's 746 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,680 anything we need to decide right now. takes a while to run run everything 747 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:34,160 through the budget, get it in and approve the budget. 748 00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:37,280 » So, can you explain to me the two different pathways? Because I had 749 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:41,760 emailed you guys about this before as well, saying that if there was a a 750 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:47,200 private donation or a private grant that we could find for the um $1,100 piece of 751 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:52,880 technology that would then be owned by Rock County. So then that would not have 752 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,400 to go through this budgetary process. Um, can you explain to me those two 753 00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:01,119 deferring paths? >> County can accept donations uh at any 754 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:05,839 time. That's not a problem. I I'm I'm probably more hung up on the on the data 755 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:12,960 piece of it. For me, I we get and and Mark is here now, too. We get probably 756 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:18,480 five to 10 data requests a week. and and if I need to go through a a two-hour 757 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:22,960 board meeting to to pull out a fivem minute excerpt to send to somebody, that 758 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:27,440 that's a concern for me. So, >> and I showed you the uh ask feature, 759 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:33,280 » but but I still would have to do that and then send them the video piece to 760 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,640 that data request. So, I I'm just I've got to get comfortable with how that 761 01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:41,200 process works. You mean if someone explicitly asked you for the timestamp 762 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,920 segment where X happened during the board meeting? 763 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:49,599 » Most of the requests we get right now are for board action items. Um, and Mark 764 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:54,960 has paper copies and then we send the paper copies um to the [clears throat] 765 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:58,640 person making the request. Um, and and we have the same concerns with with uh 766 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,760 Matt going forward. You know, one of the things that the sheriff is going to 767 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:08,480 propose and we're going to see our body cams is how do we pull pieces out of 768 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:11,839 much larger videos to make sure that we're we're sending. Now, obviously, 769 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:16,079 it's public meeting. Any anything we say here is public. That's not it's not 770 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,280 exactly the same, but we still have to have the ability to pull those excerpts 771 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,520 if that's the request that I'm going to request. 772 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,440 » Okay. >> And I just need to do some research on 773 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,119 it. So 774 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:30,240 » unless I send them the link to the whole meeting themselves. 775 01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:32,720 » You don't have to create data for someone. I would just send them the 776 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:37,040 whole meeting. They can look at it themselves. 777 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:43,359 » Yeah. And and that's why, you know, when I was here and I was proposing doing it 778 01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:48,400 myself and doing it myself, it was pretty, you know, there were no, you 779 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:53,359 know, no questions, no search, just, you know, oh, it's getting done. Great. 780 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:58,640 Fantastic. It's getting done. Um, you know, and that's why I wanted to take 781 01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:01,680 that, you know, that 6 hour, every two week, and maybe even seven or eight hour 782 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,079 depending on how much post-processing there is for things every two week 783 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:11,760 investment and try to streamline or automated as much as I could. So, I 784 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:16,000 wasn't the one that was responsible for it. um where there was the setup of the 785 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:20,880 equipment, the tear down of the equipment, the it's just it itself is 786 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:26,240 just it's a non-efficient use of human resources and that's also why I did not 787 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:30,960 want to come in and also say that oh we now need another you know temporary hire 788 01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:36,079 on the taxpayers's dime for doing it either right so it's not about carving 789 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:42,000 out a little nest egg and it's also not about it not living in perpetuity these 790 01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:47,119 meetings so I'm trying to have that one click automation as best as possible. 791 01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:52,720 And honestly, if it's going to be more complicated to pursue the $1,100 792 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:57,760 budgetary line item, because it sounds like you you don't want to do you don't 793 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:02,000 want to approve that until the first of the year. Or is that when you approve 794 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:05,040 everything generally? Or because if that's going to be more complicated, 795 01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:10,960 then maybe it's just better to go down the private or the donation route to get 796 01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:16,319 it purchased so that it can just be set up. You and I can have a a meeting 797 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:20,480 outside of these hours where I just kind of walk you through how simple it is to 798 01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:26,400 do that and then you can just launch it off at the start of every meeting 799 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:29,760 regardless if I'm here or not. Um because that was another concern is we 800 01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:35,839 don't want to be bottlenecked on me if I'm sick or something like that either. 801 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:42,000 Um and we don't want to bring on we don't want to burden or ask for another 802 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:47,119 volunteer or somebody else to also be doing it. So what what what is the then 803 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:52,319 what's going on with that? Does it is a b is a budgetary approval only a first 804 01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:55,920 of the year thing? We approve budgets annually. We obviously have to budget 805 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:58,559 certain items through the through that channel. 806 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:05,920 » So when somebody comes in and they ask you for uh the new equipment for uh the 807 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:10,400 for the county or something like that. Um when you approve that, you're 808 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:14,079 approving that for the first of the year to be processed. 809 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,880 » Most of the time it's built into their budget going forward. So let's say that 810 01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:23,280 uh Jeff needs software. he'll put it in his budget request as another operating 811 01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:26,400 charge. And so then after the first year, he has the money in his budget to 812 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,920 purchase that software. >> Okay? 813 01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:32,000 » And we have a a fiveyear cop for for market 814 01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:35,760 » for large items for very large items. Okay? 815 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:39,760 » And this isn't a 100% all budget concern, but just give us just give us 816 01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:43,760 some time to digest it and how this is going to work and who's got to babysit 817 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:46,240 what and manage it. We just want to understand the commitment part of it. 818 01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:50,640 Okay. >> Okay. Okay. both a meeting. People are 819 01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:54,160 free to come to the meetings. It's it's published in the Star Herald and and 820 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,760 other other areas. It's published on our website. We're just This is just one 821 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,200 more piece here. We're digesting. That's all. 822 01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:04,640 » Okay. So, >> and so the best way of progressing on 823 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:07,839 the digesting is then what do you think? >> No. Give me 30 days just to to hash it 824 01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:11,599 over and think about it. >> So, you guys will talk about it. 825 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,440 » Oh, we'll definitely talk about it. >> Okay. 826 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,799 » So, >> if that's fair with you. 827 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:21,839 » Yeah. Yeah. I I want to know Yeah. What? like you said if you whatever you need 828 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:26,240 to digest it also um that's why I'm also trying to explain what the process would 829 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:30,079 be like for you on the >> Right. Right. Right. And and the thing 830 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,000 is also my point is if this is on YouTube if there's a data request I want 831 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,079 to just tell them go to YouTube. >> Correct. It might not it's not our 832 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:42,160 responsibility to maybe >> what's what's put out there. 833 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:45,599 » I just want to make sure legally >> do we have to honor the data? is is it 834 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:50,720 still up to our administration's responsibility to go back to June 835 01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:55,520 whatever and pull a YouTube video and send it to you 836 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:59,039 or when is it the person making the data request when is it their responsibility 837 01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:01,920 to say hey this is this is all on YouTube [clears throat] we're not 838 01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:06,079 storing it we're not doing anything with it we're we're merely uh televising the 839 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,079 meeting period >> right 840 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,920 » we're not editing we're not doing anything to it 841 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:15,920 » right >> okay now if that's the case and I don't 842 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:20,400 have to have uh staff time. >> The $1,200 or whatever, that doesn't 843 01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:25,200 bother me. I I I just want to know, >> does Kyle Kyle or Susan, whoever, every 844 01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:28,079 time, you know, uh geez, you guys talked about buying a Sterling truck on August 845 01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:32,000 6th, >> right? 846 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:34,079 » Please send that video to me. >> Right. 847 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:40,079 » I just want to be able to go back and go legally and say, you know what, all our 848 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:42,880 meetings are at ww.rockyoutube whatever. 849 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,760 » Yeah. Go get what you got. Go get what you have to get. 850 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:50,000 » And I also want to make sure once it's out there that nobody can edit it. 851 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,640 » Right. It's It's not able to be edited after 852 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,559 » they record it. It's sent. It's done. >> Yeah. 853 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,880 » There's no human touching it. >> I I don't necessarily have an issue with 854 01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:59,520 it. >> Yeah. Just to be clear that 855 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,799 » I don't want to babysit it though and spend countless hours to 856 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,400 » take care of one. >> There's there's two things on that. 857 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:10,400 First is the administrator of the channel, which I believe is Callus 858 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:13,680 still. She still has the ability to go into the video. So even after you stream 859 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:18,720 something, you can technically remove segments from it. So you can stitch. 860 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:24,000 » Where's the transparency on that? So all a sudden I say something offputting or 861 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,079 out of line and then I go, "Hey Cal, I need to get remove this." 862 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,799 » And I I'll need >> So then where's where's my transition? 863 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:32,160 » Yeah. And I'll need I'll need a double and triple check because I do know that 864 01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:37,119 for published videos, you can do that. for streamed videos. I still I believe 865 01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:42,000 that's still the case. Um but I do not know if that removes the streamed stamp 866 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:46,240 from the videos if it's if it's edited. >> I don't want any 867 01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:48,720 » record it, send it out. It's no different than everybody taking their 868 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,839 time to come to the meeting and listen to while things are said. 869 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,801 » I have no problem with that transparency. I do have a problem with 870 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:55,440 the editing process process. [clears throat] 871 01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:59,760 » Yeah. >> And people picking and choosing because 872 01:07:57,359 --> 01:08:04,319 the social media is full of stuff and pe people pick and choose. Okay. Take 873 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,960 excerpts and then >> you know 874 01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:10,240 » that that's that's their point they're trying to make. But they they they 875 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,160 neglected to talk about 90minute discussion prior to that one little 876 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,359 piece. >> Yep. 877 01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:18,960 » That's all I want to get cleared up. >> We'll run this too when we got questions 878 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,719 on the legal side of it. We'll get Jeff will handle some of that. So 879 01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,199 » Yep. >> Okay. 880 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:28,400 » If that's fair though, give us 30 days. Uh when we at maybe October 1st, we get 881 01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:32,080 time to talk to Jeff. I want to talk to couple other counties, see how they're 882 01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:37,040 handling it. couple other government uh entities. I know the city of Leverne, I 883 01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:40,319 think they have a cable person that that works with actually the cable company 884 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:43,520 that films that [clears throat] and their response was their equipment. They 885 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:48,560 they record it. >> Okay. Right. Right. So 886 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:52,960 » the C does not manage it or they had not back when I was on council. 887 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:58,239 » Okay. So to address the other thought that you had. So to in my understanding 888 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:04,000 it would be sufficient if somebody asked for a piece of the video that uh was on 889 01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:07,920 the purchase of an item or the approval of the purchase of an item and you just 890 01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:12,400 sent them the link um to the video. I believe that would be sufficient. Um 891 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:16,400 like you said there would have to be some sort of discussion or understanding 892 01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:20,400 if that is sufficient or not. Um, also the way I believe that most cities and 893 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:26,239 counties are going about the live streaming of the councils or the county 894 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:30,400 board content is that they're just doing it in the way 895 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:34,159 that we described. Even though on the back end there is still that I believe 896 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:39,679 there's still that ability in the studio to do that. Um, I just don't think that 897 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:45,920 they do that or like with the simple thing of the the coffee break that 898 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:52,799 happens in the middle. Um, you I just came and stopped it and then started it 899 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:57,440 again. And um or again, if you just have it go through all the way and you could 900 01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:04,480 click the mute button on it when you walk to the coffee and then click it 901 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:09,760 back on when you sit back down. So, um it it's just it's also interesting to 902 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:16,480 me to just understand what you're saying that if if a p if a if a if the public 903 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:20,960 um is asking for this to be approved um through taxpayer money, then it goes 904 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,400 through sort of in a way it's like kind of a little bit different of an approval 905 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:28,159 process. You kind of want to, you know, understand about it, take more time with 906 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:32,480 it or whatever. But if a private donation or a private grant was given 907 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:37,199 for the purchase of it, as long as there was a citizen that was doing it pro 908 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:40,159 bono, that it would be no no question. Of course, it's just happening. Great. 909 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,640 So, I'm just I'm interested. >> We cannot tell you to not record the 910 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,560 meeting, >> right? 911 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:49,280 » That's open meeting laws, right? We're fine with that. 912 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,840 » That's why I was really interested in the Star Herald if the Star Herald 913 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,199 wanted to come. Yeah. Because the other thing we do is we don't always meet 914 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,159 here. You know, we we just talked about the October meetings. We're going to be 915 01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:01,040 at a different location, right? >> Occasionally, we have to move around. 916 01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:04,719 So, we would >> obviously need to to move the equipment 917 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,280 or whatever equipment's needed to the different locations where the county 918 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,880 meets. We have to be in the county seat, but we have a number of buildings in the 919 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:15,280 county that we have. >> Um, so, like I said, we we're already 920 01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:19,679 have two meetings coming up in October and November that are in different 921 01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:24,320 locations. But so that's why the Star Herald if they were interested as a um 922 01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:28,239 you know the the press if they were interested in 923 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:33,360 partnering and doing it themselves that would be great. You know just like the 924 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:37,679 paper covering us every every star for example right now they're doing 925 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,360 all the the updates on Highway 75. It's great information every week. 926 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:47,440 » I have no problem with it. I just don't think uh we as a staff want to run it 927 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:51,760 and and be responsible for it. I have no problem hitting the button. 928 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:56,719 » Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the data procing, all that all that stuff. 929 01:11:54,239 --> 01:12:01,120 » I I I actually don't think that that's a real concern really. I don't think the 930 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:04,719 editing is a real concern. I don't think the data 931 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,560 » we back up. We are not going to edit our meetings. Right. 932 01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:09,280 » Okay. >> Right. Right. No, that's what I'm trying 933 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:12,320 to say is I don't think >> I don't necessarily want somebody else 934 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:17,199 editing my meeting. I want the live. I want if it runs for 92 minutes, I want 935 01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:18,800 92 minutes on social media. I don't want any editing. Okay. 936 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:22,560 » Yeah. >> But your answer I don't think isn't good 937 01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:27,520 enough. >> We have to know one way or the other. 938 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,760 » And that's why we wanted to do do our due diligence with our county attorney. 939 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,400 Yep. >> Check with a couple other uh government 940 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,360 entities. See how they do it. >> Sure. 941 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,080 » That's all I want. >> Sure. Sure. So then you guys want to do 942 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:44,480 that and uh have me come back in a month to talk about it again or do you need me 943 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:48,000 present to or how how does that >> Well, we'll get back to you. 944 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,800 » I'll follow up with you either through an email or a call and if we need you 945 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,000 back we'll have you back and if we have an answer where we're going to do it 946 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:58,320 then we'll just move forward that. >> Okay. So like midepptember like into 947 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:04,400 said I'll I'll reach back out. >> We meet uh the 8th and the 22nd 948 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,480 I think it is of September. >> Okay. and commissioner will regard back. 949 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:11,920 He's he's on >> and can you guys loop him in on this as 950 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,760 well with >> Yeah, we talked. 951 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:20,640 » Yeah, you guys loop him in and with Jeff and then I then we'll just 952 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,280 » But yeah, I'm all for the transparency, all for the broadcasting. There's zero 953 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:27,920 issues with that. >> Yeah. And I get it. So even it's not 954 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:31,840 even about the budget line item. No, we just we the discussion you're going to 955 01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:38,719 find out every every meeting we have from buying a laptop to a a new truck to 956 01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:42,400 that how we how question we always look at that end of the table. How do we pay 957 01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:46,560 for it? So, we just don't have a a car block to 958 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:49,199 check with just >> I just thought that the line I just 959 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,600 thought that you were saying that the line item wasn't the was more negligible 960 01:13:52,000 --> 01:14:00,320 and not the important thing. It was more about the the data practices as well as 961 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:02,880 the um the how much additional time or effort would this take us? Okay, that's 962 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,719 what you're saying. >> That's what my concern is. 963 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,040 » All right. >> Okay. Thank you. We got to keep moving 964 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,960 here. >> Okay. I'll follow up. 965 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,960 » All right. 966 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,520 » Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you guys. 967 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,520 » Mark 968 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,679 Good morning. >> Morning. 969 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:43,600 Uh I just have two items. [clears throat] 970 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:49,920 Uh first one is a fall box cover bid letting that we would like to do. Uh you 971 01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:53,719 got that map. map on it. 972 01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:53,719 » Yeah, 973 01:14:55,316 --> 01:15:01,760 [clears throat] >> right there. 974 01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:04,760 » There you go. There's uh three projects uh 975 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:15,840 two county and one is uh Denver Township in the north one. The other one's on 976 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:22,159 CASA 7 west of Hardick and the other one's on CASA 11 just west 977 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:29,920 of Leverne just north of County Highway 5. Uh we're requesting awards approval 978 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:33,640 to have a bid line Monday, August 31st at 11:00 a.m. 979 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,280 » 31st. >> Yep. 980 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,120 That's [clears throat] for all three of them. 981 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:52,480 » It's all three of them. Bid bid at one time. 982 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:58,239 » Yep. >> Then we've got four others that we will 983 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,000 be starting. We bid them in the spring starting October. 984 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,320 » Okay. >> So, 985 01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:06,080 » like on seven, you have to close that road. 986 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:10,159 » Yeah. Couple days, >> maybe more. 987 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:14,480 » Be more like two, three weeks. >> Oh, and what's what's the timeline on 988 01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:17,280 that one? You think? >> Uh, it'll either be next spring or next 989 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:22,960 fall. >> Okay. It won't be this fall. 990 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:27,760 » I can't see us getting the pipe in time. Usually takes four months, four four to 991 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:30,640 six months to get the pipe. So, >> I'm just avoiding [clears throat] 992 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:35,588 harvest here a little bit. A truck. >> I fully understand. 993 01:16:33,568 --> 01:16:35,588 » [laughter] 994 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:42,400 » Trust me. >> Yeah. [laughter] 995 01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:48,280 » I know. Okay. >> Then make a motion to approve the bid 996 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,280 levers. 997 01:16:53,280 --> 01:17:02,719 » I'll support it. Been moved and second to approve 7.1 the box cover bid letting 998 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:07,679 August 31st. >> Any other questions? 999 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:11,760 » All in favor signify by saying I >> oppose. 1000 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:17,440 » Mr. Chair, question. >> So uh the delay in getting stuff now is 1001 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:21,920 it just kind of standard we're past all the co thing where it took forever or is 1002 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:26,800 it still a shortage of in the supply line or? Uh, no. Actually, the prices 1003 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,440 have greatly improved. >> Okay. 1004 01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:33,520 » Since 2022, 23. 1005 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:37,600 Uh, timeline's down. I haven't talked to the producers. You really don't know 1006 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,640 till you have the bid letting. >> Sure. 1007 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:45,600 » And then they then then you find out who's making the pipe. Then you 1008 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:47,120 » then you get a more detailed timeline. >> Sure. 1009 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,239 » On delivery. >> Thank you. 1010 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,159 » So, >> all three of these are 1011 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:55,440 » Yep. >> Y. 1012 01:17:51,920 --> 01:18:02,640 Okay. 7.2. Then uh Mark, >> uh just point of information. 1013 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:08,960 Yeah. Can you uh the signs are going up today to close County Road 6 just north 1014 01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:13,360 of Beaver Creek for a bridge construction project. 1015 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:18,159 It'll take more likely 14 to 16 weeks. So 1016 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:26,159 » take a while, isn't it? >> Yep. It's uh the new structure will be 1017 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:30,960 about 120 ft in length. So the detour goes west to County Road 5 to 1018 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:38,880 23, south to 17, [snorts] 1019 01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:43,360 then into Beaver Creek back on four. So I have been talking with the township of 1020 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:49,360 Beaver Creek. They have concerns. We're going to pay for some dust control. Um, 1021 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,120 we'll probably end up paying for a little bit of gravel after it's done. 1022 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,800 » After it's done. >> Yeah. 1023 01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:58,400 » Yeah. >> Understandable. 1024 01:18:55,679 --> 01:19:02,480 » Yep. I told him I'd rather wait till it's done and then we can figure out 1025 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:07,679 » how much it is. >> That's a well needed project. 1026 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:10,239 » Yep. Yep. >> Served it time. 1027 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,760 » Yes, it has. >> Yeah. That's never a good time to work 1028 01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:14,800 on >> Well, no. 1029 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:20,000 » No. and more under those shiner restrictions. So really 1030 01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:25,440 either got to do them right away in the spring when everybody's in the field 1031 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,679 » or now. So >> okay, that wasformational. Anything else 1032 01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:31,480 for Mark? >> Nope. I don't have anything. 1033 01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:36,000 » I didn't ask you last time. How's the pups working out? 1034 01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:38,239 » Good. >> Giving you some time and 1035 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:44,000 » Yep. Yep. >> Especially going up clear. 1036 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:47,440 » Yep. miles away. >> We use them quite a bit. We don't use 1037 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,080 them when we're shouldering. >> No, 1038 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,360 » but uh any other time we're hauling, we're 1039 01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:54,480 » got the pups on. >> We got the pups on. 1040 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,040 » Thanks, Mark. >> You got Thank you. 1041 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:06,560 » Back to Kyle. >> Budget time. 1042 01:20:03,825 --> 01:20:09,920 [clears throat] Um, this is it's still in draft form, but I think it's 1043 01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:15,440 important to start getting some numbers out in front of the county board. Uh, we 1044 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:19,120 have on the agenda is actually a budget retreat. And I think today we can cover 1045 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,760 a lot of the material, but if there are people that you want to have back, any 1046 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:26,880 of the departments you want to have back in particular at the next meeting, uh, 1047 01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:31,520 that will give us an opportunity to, uh, to kind of give a an overview quick and 1048 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:35,520 then come back to to who you want to have attend. Um, I'll start at the 1049 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:40,159 bottom and we'll work up. How's that sound? So, 1050 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:43,679 you can see right now as at first draft we're in 7.46 1051 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:47,120 and there's a number of variables or a number of reasons that we got to that. 1052 01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:51,760 But in some of the notes just to kind of cover things that we're just not sure of 1053 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,679 yet, things that are still hanging out there. We we do know that that we 1054 01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:02,800 adjusted the ambulance at the same rate of our cola 4%. The CPA was slightly 1055 01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:07,760 adjusted. We lost uh couple grand in in county program aid. Each levy point, as 1056 01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:15,520 we discuss the county levy, it's about $78,000 per point. So, when we say 7.46, 1057 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:20,320 how much is that increase? It's $584,000 to get to 7.46. 1058 01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:23,920 Now, the meat of it, we don't have a sergeant contract settle yet. It won't 1059 01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:27,440 be a large impact item, but it's not settled yet. It's uh it's only three 1060 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:33,280 employees in that particular bargaining group. So, that's not not going to be a 1061 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:37,360 uh a huge impact item. Stacy was here and presented for the Southwest Health 1062 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:43,360 and Human Services. We all heard her say that the joint powers agreement maximum 1063 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:49,679 max is 10%. You see, we have that actually [clears throat] budgeted in at 1064 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:54,880 10%, that's an increase of $196,000, but their need is 15%. So, we're also 1065 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:58,400 holding back the additional 5%. So tomorrow at Southwest Health and Human 1066 01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:02,639 Services, they're going to make the request, I believe, to that board for 1067 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:09,840 the 15%. But they're also going to authorize to do the second percent that 1068 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:15,120 5% hold back in the form of a kind of a pledge that if they're successful in 1069 01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:19,040 during the legislative session next spring, then they won't ask for the 1070 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:25,760 additional 5%. They're going to ask for legislative relief on some of the action 1071 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:29,280 of the Medicare and SNAP impacts. So that's that's their whole goal. Matter 1072 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:34,080 of fact, AMC is told that's their number one priority is trying to get 1073 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:39,600 legislative relief in those two. So we will hold back that additional $98,000 1074 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:46,400 and then sometime around July 1st, we would move it to them uh in the event uh 1075 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:49,360 that they're not successful. We do have [clears throat] a little bit 1076 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:52,960 of money wind production tax and I'm going to get you a better spreadsheet at 1077 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:57,440 the next meeting on that giving you the entire history of the wind production 1078 01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:01,920 tax started in about 2014. Uh we took about 400 grand a year out of that 1079 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,639 initially for a road and bridge bond that has been settled. We issued the 1080 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:09,840 last bond out of there at about 230,000 250,000. 1081 01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:12,960 So we freed up some money there in addition to walleye wind coming fully 1082 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,800 online. So there's some additional dollars in in wind production tax, but I 1083 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:20,480 think it's important to give the board the full picture on what we have 1084 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:24,719 committed out of there every year and what you have available. Most of it has 1085 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:30,480 been used for rolling stock for Mark. Uh we did in 2017 2018 we did take an 1086 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:34,800 additional million dollars of bond out there for the fiber project. So that 1087 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:39,280 we've got a couple years left, but it's there's a pretty healthy increase in the 1088 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:42,639 wind production tax. Uh we still have a million dollars of the bond dollars 1089 01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:47,840 available to move forward with projects. Uh things that that we have coming on 1090 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:54,000 the CIP plan over the next couple years. Capital purchase line has remained 1091 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:58,800 unchanged. So we still have the $416,000 in capital purchase lines. And what I 1092 01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:03,280 will tell you is if you were going to make adjustments 1093 01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:07,120 in 2027, that would be your lowhanging fruit. That would be your one item that 1094 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:13,360 you could potentially make changes. However, Ashley and I are using that for 1095 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:19,360 the $98,000 holdback as well as the $130,000 that the sheriff 1096 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:25,280 has requested in rifles and body cams and the potential 1097 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:29,120 um case expenses for the trial next year. uh rather than put that in the 1098 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,960 county attorney's operating budget and make it look way out of whack, uh we 1099 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:36,880 would keep that in a separate item. And so [clears throat] in 200 when was the 1100 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:41,440 Sweeney trial? 2006, 78 >> 2008. In 2008, we did the same thing, 1101 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:45,120 but then we took it out of courts. We have a separate budget for courts and 1102 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:49,040 that's how we paid for any additional costs related to that particular murder 1103 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:54,080 trial. uh they're very expensive, expert witnesses, um 1104 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:58,639 just in general, those particular complicated trials cost a lot more 1105 01:24:56,159 --> 01:25:04,159 money. Uh so those would be big items that we'd have back. So you add those 1106 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:09,760 together, 180, call it uh 280,000 is already committed, if you will, uh 1107 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:15,520 potentially out of this capital purchase or capital purchases line as your 1108 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:19,360 reserve. Now, after reviewing the notes, now we can work through and talk about 1109 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:25,040 some of the specifics of Stop me anytime, by the way. Uh, some of the 1110 01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:29,040 specifics of the budgets. Uh, county board had a slight increase. It was 1111 01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:32,719 wages. We moved around or salaries. Uh, county administrator, and I'm going to 1112 01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:37,280 come back to county administrator and em here in just a couple minutes, so we'll 1113 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:43,120 skip that one. Auditor treasur, they're seeing less um interest income. uh not 1114 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:46,639 that interest rates are going up but we've spent down some reserves over the 1115 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:51,760 last year or two and that's impacted them a little bit along with salary and 1116 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:56,480 benefits uh the audit has stayed constant data processing that's our IT 1117 01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:01,360 uh we're seeing some increases costs in in things like security software um and 1118 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:06,639 and some of the aspects as well as salary and benefits u we do leave 1119 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:10,320 elections constant for if you remember that that we have a spike every other 1120 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:14,239 year so rather than budget 70,000 one year and zero the next year. We continue 1121 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:18,719 to fund that at a flat rate to make it a little a little cleaner for budgeting 1122 01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:23,679 purposes. County attorney had a slight increase u wages and benefits. Land 1123 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:26,400 records, they had some staff get promoted over time, so they're 1124 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:30,400 accelerating through steps. So, it's steps and benefits as well there. Uh 1125 01:26:28,639 --> 01:26:35,600 building maintenance, those are a lot a lot of that is are contract costs uh 1126 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:39,520 with Johnson Control and other building maintenance items. Uh the VSO, he had 1127 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:44,159 had a slight increase in his grant agreement to help offset and bring some 1128 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:48,639 cost down. The sheriff uh the sheriff and I spent considerable time going 1129 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:53,120 through his budget over the last uh few days and before. And I tell you what, 1130 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:57,600 hats off to uh to the sheriff uh doing the deep dive on that, moving some lines 1131 01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:01,040 around and cleaning up cleaning up that budget in the sense not that it was bad. 1132 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:05,440 I don't want to make it sound like oh didn't have it right. It was it was just 1133 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:12,000 it's a little clearer now uh with what Matt has done uh as far as uh vehicle 1134 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:16,800 expenses, vehicle maintenance, some of the data type things we need to do with 1135 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:23,040 Verizon are all much cleaner now going forward. We also have built into the 1136 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:27,360 sheriff's budget increase fees that were presented to the small cities as well as 1137 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:32,639 an increase to the city of Leverne contract. So those those are built in as 1138 01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:38,639 well and at the end it's about uh 3 and a half just a hair over 3 and a2% um 1139 01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:43,520 which is is kind of in that cola range if you will overall. 1140 01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:47,440 » Kyle, are the body cams built into that? >> No, the body cams if you decide to go 1141 01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:51,679 forward with those they would come out of this capital purchases item that's 1142 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:55,920 rather than have the same the same thing for Matt and and Jeff are the same 1143 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,960 issues. If you build those one-time expenses in there, it makes them look 1144 01:27:57,199 --> 01:28:02,000 like their budgets are way out of whack rather take it out of the capital 1145 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:06,560 purchases item. >> But being aware that we have those 1146 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:12,960 onetime expenses. Uh corner is the same. Here's the other huge variable going 1147 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:17,199 into 2027 and that's the prisoner care piece. Um 1148 01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:21,199 the sheriff has talked with his counterpart, I've talked with mine. uh 1149 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:26,800 they've they being Nobles County have expressed uh a desire to change the 1150 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:33,280 rate. It's been fairly flat for a long time. We did see a a slight increase a 1151 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:36,800 year or two ago from 65 to 75. Uh they've got a study committee, what 1152 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:41,600 they're calling an economic impact committee on the jail and they threw out 1153 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:47,600 a number of over $150 per inmate per day. We're currently at 1154 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:51,440 $75 per inmate per day. Um so we threw that in as an estimate. I did talk to 1155 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:55,120 Bruce last week and I'm sure that Matt's talked to Ryan over there as well. We're 1156 01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:59,199 going to get together and talk about it. Uh I don't disagree that there needs to 1157 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:03,360 be an adjustment. It's just doubling it a year is too big a bite. And I I think 1158 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:06,880 we can work out something where we make some 1159 01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:11,440 » some changes over a period of time to get them where they want to be. Uh I if 1160 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:15,520 if you're really interested in jails, I think it was Mstead County, wasn't it? 1161 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:20,239 Homestead County that took theirs from like $75 a day to $325 a day. 1162 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,760 » Homestead. >> It was Homestead and it was Dodge that 1163 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:28,639 now is shopping and trying to find a new home for their uh for their inmates. So, 1164 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:33,360 it's happening all over the state. Uh Lion County is looking to change their 1165 01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:36,400 rate as well for Murray and Lincoln and some of the other counties that use 1166 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:42,800 them. So, it's it's all over the state now and and trying to figure out these 1167 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:47,679 jail costs and um so I it's it's going to be an increase. Whether it settles 1168 01:29:44,719 --> 01:29:51,440 there or if it settles at 75,000 or it settles at 100,000, I just don't know 1169 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:54,000 yet. And that's the whole purpose behind the preliminary levy is knowing that it 1170 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,480 can change. >> And and pipes in that room pipes in that 1171 01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:02,320 room and they're down to how many they can only store 1172 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:06,320 » somebody I think was it 90 days? Yeah, they they've got they've got some rules 1173 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,639 now through DOC where they can't they can't take long longterm. 1174 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:14,719 » Oh, okay. >> Uh cuz prisoners in county jail 1175 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:19,840 pipstone has actually got some people in nobles cuz they can't cuz they're more 1176 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:25,520 longer term people. But local jail is up to 12 months for a sentence. But you 1177 01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:31,760 hold them during the pendency of a proceeding too. like our murder guy is, 1178 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:35,760 you know, he's likely to be in there possibly more than 12 months before we 1179 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:40,080 get that case done. So, right. >> So, who who how many counties have to 1180 01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:42,960 negotiate with? No. Austin uses pipes don't have to negotiate. 1181 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,920 » Well, we're their primary cousin very much. 1182 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:49,600 » Oh, we're we're we're probably their biggest. 1183 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,800 » Oh, by far. Yeah. So, >> we will be talking with them and they've 1184 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,360 been a historically Nobles has been a great partner. I don't want to imply 1185 01:30:54,159 --> 01:31:01,600 that they're not. Yeah, we've had community corrections since 78 and 1186 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:04,560 » well, we can't own a jail for this. So, >> that's the last thing we want to do our 1187 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,657 own jail. >> So, so be aware when we talk about 1188 01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:11,440 increases, you know, basically between [clears throat] Southwest Health and 1189 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:16,400 Human Service Prison, that's your that's your increase kind of in a nutshell. 1190 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:20,960 Everything else has been pretty well pretty well within what you kind of 1191 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:24,400 expect. Uh, a couple standouts. You know, we did approve the mental health 1192 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:29,120 gap fund earlier this year to increase uh an extra $5,000. So, you see an 1193 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:34,320 increase there. I had a note that the appropriations for all the ambulances 1194 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:40,320 went up there 4%. U culture approved the historical society beginning of the year 1195 01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:44,639 for a $10,000 increase from 25 to 35. Um and then as you move through the other 1196 01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:49,520 big one is extension at 128. Um there was a step I think involved there as 1197 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:54,320 well as uh DOLAS. So the other things down the line as you 1198 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:58,159 go forward, we've already highlighted welfare. That would be almost 300 by 1199 01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:04,560 holding back that other that other piece. So that's that's a substantial 1200 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:08,480 amount as well. Um for them, so you you're at 475,000 between 1201 01:32:06,953 --> 01:32:13,040 [clears throat] prisoner care and Southwest Health Services. 1202 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:18,719 The uh tax abatements, they haven't really changed. Um so that gets us 1203 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:25,520 currently at 746. Um I we've got a group that has a kind 1204 01:32:22,719 --> 01:32:30,639 of a it's called base camp where we share information between counties and 1205 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:37,280 we're kind of believe it or not we're on the lower end at 7.46. Pipstone's thrown 1206 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:40,960 out about a 12 and a half. Um Nobles I've heard is double digits. I just 1207 01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:45,440 haven't heard how big. There's a couple letter five and below but they're very 1208 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:49,679 rare. Uh most counties this year are looking squarely at a double digit 1209 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:53,920 increase. even Dakota County who who we've kind of joked about with because 1210 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,520 of tax rates being similar. Uh they're coming off a 9 and a half nine and a 1211 01:32:55,520 --> 01:33:00,159 half and they're proposing a 21 and a half 1212 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:06,639 » uh going into next year. >> So it's they're staggering numbers. Um 1213 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:09,920 so we'll have the retreat. Uh I guess the big question would be is who would 1214 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:13,440 you like to have come in? If there's questions you have that we can bring in 1215 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,239 department heads to answer, we're happy to do it. We should have Ashley at the 1216 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,320 next meeting to talk about interest income. I'd like to have the sheriff 1217 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,480 there. >> Sheriff, we'll have him come in and talk 1218 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:24,400 about >> Let's get Mark there, too. 1219 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:27,840 » Okay. Mark was great. Mark's like, I'll make it work, whatever you guys tell me. 1220 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:34,719 So, he yet again stayed. >> I guess primarily Mark, I want I want to 1221 01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:39,600 talk about uh this capital outlay for 1222 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:42,719 you know, Stan, we're back to >> graders and trucks again. You know, that 1223 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:47,760 always seems to come up. We wear them out. So, I just want to know if we're 1224 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:52,800 forecasted. Not too of that. So >> one thing I think we I did for years 1225 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:57,199 forget about is the longer our employees stay here the step the step increases 1226 01:33:54,880 --> 01:34:03,679 every year. Yeah. >> Actually quite a little money 1227 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:08,239 when they get another step and you need longterm in place. 1228 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,880 » I'm so apologize. I should have passed those out. You can take notes on there. 1229 01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:16,880 I've got a few extras. It's just the same as this. It's just on paper. 1230 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:21,600 Kyle, I know you did a good job of describing the prisoner care and why 1231 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:24,880 that increase, but is there like numbers to back that up? Like, are they giving 1232 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:28,560 you something? >> That's what's the meeting that's coming 1233 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:33,199 up. They're they're going to try to show us what it costs them to run. And I 1234 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:35,120 think it's like $2.5 million, isn't that, Matt? Do you remember? 1235 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:39,520 » I don't remember. >> Two 2.1 2.2 million. It's It's a big 1236 01:34:37,679 --> 01:34:42,239 number that's out there. >> And technically, they would have to 1237 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:46,080 provide it. >> No, they wouldn't have to. I don't think 1238 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:50,320 » you want your prisoners service. >> Well, 1239 01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:55,360 didn't we make a pretty substantial contribution when that was built? 1240 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:58,719 » Didn't we had something to do with some maybe we 1241 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,600 just signed the agreement? >> We just signed an agreement. They knew 1242 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,480 that we were going to give them our in like we do with 1243 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:08,560 » But no, they don't they don't technically have to accept our 1244 01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:12,320 prisoners. On the other hand, they they probably can't run their facility 1245 01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:18,719 without our prisoners because they I mean they have it's sized according to 1246 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:23,840 our that and staffed according to having >> I we probably end up 68 there each time. 1247 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:28,639 » Yeah. Yeah. Our numbers, you know, I think we used to budget at an average of 1248 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:31,920 like 3.4 bed days, you know, and I think we're higher than that now. Why don't we 1249 01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:35,280 take a look at our our number of bed days as well. 1250 01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:37,679 » Do they have a capacity issue at all? I don't I don't think they're at capacity. 1251 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:42,239 Are they not? >> Not that I've heard. 1252 01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:45,440 » And what is our percentage of that capacity normally running? 1253 01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:48,320 » No, really. >> Minimal 1254 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:51,480 » very small in fact. >> We probably 1255 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:58,000 have the exact number of cells they have, but 1256 01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:02,560 they're holding. >> We have six over there now. Six or seven 1257 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:05,760 or seven. And they've got certain fixed costs they're going to have whether 1258 01:36:03,679 --> 01:36:11,326 we're there or not. But >> the big thing is don't send them there 1259 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,326 on Friday night. [laughter] 1260 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:21,120 » They go when they go Stan. >> So yep. And then the other one that I 1261 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:25,360 wanted to talk about we'll spend a little bit of time on is why did the 1262 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:31,400 county administrator and emergency services change? I got a letter for you 1263 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,400 regarding that. 1264 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:44,560 I'd read it, but I don't think I can. >> That's okay, Kyle. 1265 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:47,351 » We're going to pass his back. >> Yeah, we're pass. [laughter] 1266 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,719 » Denied. Denied, >> Kyle. 1267 01:37:03,679 --> 01:37:12,040 33 years, huh? To the day. 1268 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,040 » It's over. 1269 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:23,000 » Shucks. I wish I was up for election. 1270 01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:26,560 » I don't want to take care of 1271 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:33,880 Kyle, this is a very hard letter to read. 1272 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:42,000 » But thank you. >> That's the biggest thing we got here, 1273 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:46,719 Kyle, is you can't you you don't have a clue how much we thank you for all these 1274 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:50,320 years. It's I've been here 16 years and I don't know what I'd do without you. 1275 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:54,639 You know, it's >> a lot a lot of institutional knowledge. 1276 01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:58,040 » Yeah. and a good ride. 1277 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:05,600 » Commissioner Jarklo, I've probably said this before, but Commissioner Jarklo 1278 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:10,400 when I got on this board cornered me and said, "Well, my first 1279 01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:15,679 question when I took Richard Bachan's spot was 1280 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:20,080 Richard to I asked Richard about disagreeing with somebody and being walk 1281 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:24,719 out of this room and still be friends." And he said, "Absolutely. That's just 1282 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:31,679 the way Rock County operates. And then visiting with Jericho, who I 1283 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:37,520 had a lot of respect for. He said, "You have department heads, the 1284 01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:41,760 best department heads you can find, and the and the best administrator and 1285 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:45,920 deputy administrator, and you guys got it made." And we did. You guys have 1286 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:50,639 taken the load off the commissioners like you can't believe. 1287 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:53,119 » Let me counter that. It starts at the top. And clearly the board's at top. 1288 01:38:52,639 --> 01:38:57,040 » Yep. >> It's been a privilege. I've had I I 1289 01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:00,719 tallied them out and and counting the one that I've worked for for about an 1290 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:04,719 hour and a half, I've uh I've got a total of 14 commissioners I work 1291 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,600 » and which is amazing when you think about every two years there's an 1292 01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:11,920 election cycle >> to only have 14 commissioners. That's 1293 01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:13,920 right. It is. I I put that number against any county in the state. I can't 1294 01:39:13,363 --> 01:39:18,080 [clears throat] believe it would even be close. 1295 01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:23,760 » Um but they they've provided the guidance and and support because that 1296 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:28,159 And I've made mistakes. I mean, there's no question that that, you know, we've 1297 01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:30,159 done some things and it's like it should have been what the hell is Aldry 1298 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,159 thinking? >> And and it's and it's true and and but 1299 01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:39,440 the board has always supported us and supported us as a staff. Um it's it's 1300 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:45,199 been it's been spectacular. But back to the budget. Um 1301 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:51,679 so so the plan would be to to separate out administrator from emergency 1302 01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:57,119 management. um it your new person, whoever it is, um it would be a little 1303 01:39:54,960 --> 01:40:02,080 too much for them to take both of those gigs together. Um EM has evolved. I 1304 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,520 picked it up. Uh I started May 3rd and on May 7th, we had a flood. So, I was 1305 01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:09,679 four days in the job. I didn't know what I didn't know. So, they're like, "Hey, 1306 01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:13,199 new guy, go fix the flood." Um and I've had it ever since. Um I I don't think it 1307 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:18,560 would be fair to start somebody out like that. The certification for EM now takes 1308 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:23,679 12 months. Uh it's just a slow process. Um, so I I think I think the county 1309 01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:28,800 would be best served to hire a half time or some level of time for EM and then 1310 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:33,679 have your admin person be full-time and handle the other duties and and 1311 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:37,679 certainly I'm I'm happy to transmit. I'm not moving. I'm not going anywhere. If 1312 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:42,080 there's something I can do to assist at any point, I'm happy to do it. I mean, 1313 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:46,000 it's I love this county. I I you know, it's a small farm in in Vienna Township. 1314 01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:50,480 So, I'm I'm from here and I'm not going anywhere. So, 1315 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:54,719 Whatever whatever you need, I'm I'll certainly offer to help. 1316 01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:59,920 » The only other question I had, and I I maybe asked Sherry what her thoughts, is 1317 01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:04,080 there any way we can keep you on the BR? >> Sure. That's not a that's really not 1318 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,880 even a county uh county activity. That's a completely separate separate item. 1319 01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:09,760 » Yep. >> Yep. And we've got a couple big things 1320 01:41:08,239 --> 01:41:13,280 come with that. We've got a Chrissy grant that we 1321 01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:17,360 » got a real asset on that the work you put into the VR. That's that's a fun 1322 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:21,920 » sure the Christy grants and everything else that's going on out there has been 1323 01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:24,920 greatly appreciated from from your standpoint. 1324 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:31,199 » But that's that's kind of in a nutshell where those numbers are so you might say 1325 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:36,080 out of whack >> because we're shifting shifting the cost 1326 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:41,040 back to administrator the EM stuff. They will absorb the full EM grant which is 1327 01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:44,480 about 17 18 grand a year. Um and some some reduced costs there. That's why it 1328 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,920 kind of >> that shared budget looks different than 1329 01:41:46,639 --> 01:41:52,400 it did before. >> Yeah. 1330 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:57,520 » And since this is out now, I probably the board will have to decide if we if 1331 01:41:55,040 --> 01:42:02,080 we hire that outfit to uh replace you. 1332 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,679 » Yeah. You know, maybe you explain that one. 1333 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:07,119 » Sure. Sure. you know, and I've talked with the personnel committee a little 1334 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:11,600 bit about this, but it's uh there are firms that that just like in the private 1335 01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:16,639 sector that do that do head hunting, but they specialize in government. Um, and 1336 01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:19,760 they would they would do up the job description, job announcement, they 1337 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:24,639 would do a community profile talking about Rock County and and all all of its 1338 01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:28,960 great attributes. Uh, and then they would be responsible for marketing it. 1339 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:33,360 Uh, they would be the recipient of the applications as they come in. uh they 1340 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:37,280 would work with the county board on what skill set are you looking for and then 1341 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:43,440 try to marry up those candidates and get you uh get you interviews set up and and 1342 01:42:39,679 --> 01:42:48,639 take it from there. I um I I I would certainly think there would be a lot of 1343 01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:53,920 interest, you know, but I I don't know. Um it's a great job. I if they if they 1344 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,480 ask me if somebody calls and says, "Should I apply?" I'm certainly going to 1345 01:42:55,040 --> 01:43:03,719 tell them to apply. It's a great place to be. Um, but I I don't know. And but 1346 01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:03,719 that's what they specialize in 1347 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:12,880 » kind of goes back to uh >> Oh, this this something I said a while 1348 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,000 ago, but department heads make your job easy. 1349 01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:18,320 » Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. They've been spectacular 1350 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:22,159 over the years now. And and Commissioner Rice pointed it out. There's there's 1351 01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:25,840 some pretty senior department heads. We we've been blessed with with a lot of 1352 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:30,719 staying power and a lot of longevity. Um, great group. Start. You know, Susan 1353 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:35,920 and I have been together for uh 32 years. Um, so it's, 1354 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:39,760 you know, Mark S was just here, you know, he's been here over 30 years. 1355 01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:43,840 Jeff's been here over 20 years. Um, Hartman's been here over 20 years, over 1356 01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:48,480 25 years. So, I mean, we've we've had a ton of staying power and and some we've 1357 01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:52,239 been blessed with terrific longevity and and a lot of folks that just know what 1358 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:57,960 they need to do without having to ask any questions. you know. So, no, we've 1359 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,960 been very, very fortunate. 1360 01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:06,800 You can't imagine how many times in 32 years Susan wanted to fire me. It's been 1361 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:12,102 really [laughter] >> It's been really amazing. 1362 01:44:10,082 --> 01:44:12,102 [laughter] 1363 01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:17,639 » She should get hazard pay, >> right? 1364 01:44:17,942 --> 01:44:23,760 [laughter] >> [clears throat] 1365 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:27,360 » And here this is absolutely true. Susan and I have talked about you know who 1366 01:44:25,119 --> 01:44:31,360 should go first and it was pretty quick quickly decided that I needed to go 1367 01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:35,199 first because it'll be easier for her to train her my place than for me 1368 01:44:34,317 --> 01:44:38,199 [cough and clears throat] to carry even think 1369 01:44:39,557 --> 01:44:43,440 [laughter] >> I uh I quickly pointed out that 1370 01:44:42,832 --> 01:44:48,960 [clears throat] um I you don't know where a whole lot of 1371 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:51,679 stuff is at. [laughter] Yeah, >> that's the trade 1372 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:55,987 » other man on the desktop of your computer. 1373 01:44:53,967 --> 01:44:55,987 [laughter] 1374 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:02,800 » Well, I appreciate the the advance notice. So, 1375 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:05,520 » we will uh ask you to put this on the agenda for next meeting and we will act 1376 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,280 on it. >> Y 1377 01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,920 » is that appropriate? >> Absolutely. 1378 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,920 » Okay. 1379 01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:17,679 So my minutes are going to reflect that we're tableabling action till no process 1380 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:23,360 for filling pack. >> Oh god. Okay. I'm like wait a minute. 1381 01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:27,840 » This table for another four years. >> Yeah. [laughter] 1382 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:30,719 » So >> you want to act on shipping then? 1383 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:33,199 » Well we have to. Yeah. Could we just today? 1384 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,400 » Yeah. Yeah. That it's formal. >> Yeah. 1385 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,600 » Yeah. Fine. >> I'll make a motion to accept the 1386 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:41,520 resignation notice of 1387 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:46,960 administrator. Okay, >> I would second that. 1388 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:53,600 » With great regrets. >> Been moved in second to accept the 1389 01:45:50,320 --> 01:46:00,639 notification from Kyle today. Uh final day will be February 28th uh after 33 1390 01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:05,639 years. So any other questions? All in favor signify by saying I. 1391 01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:05,639 » I. 1392 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:09,348 » Funny. [laughter] 1393 01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:13,320 Aren't you the guy not running? 1394 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,960 » Okay. 1395 01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:25,119 » Welcome. Welcome to the board. [laughter] 1396 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:27,199 » Are we going to schedule a budget retreat at the next meeting 1397 01:46:26,978 --> 01:46:30,400 [clears throat] >> to bring these guys in? Is that what 1398 01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:34,040 we're thinking? >> Yeah, let's do that. 1399 01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:41,679 » Anybody else? The board I mean, excuse me, sir. [clears throat] Any else want 1400 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:44,639 maybe besides those two or >> I had three though. I had Mark, uh, Matt 1401 01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:51,440 and Ashley. >> Oh, and Ashley. Yeah. 1402 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:54,440 » And that'll be after the board meeting. >> Yep. 1403 01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:02,520 » What was the date? >> September 8th. 1404 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,520 » There's [snorts] the next meeting. 1405 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:10,400 » Not at a be conventional. No. 1406 01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:13,280 And the timeline on that, we'd be done. We'd still be done by 12:30 or so. What 1407 01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:16,560 we >> got? Yeah. That take a long time. 1408 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:19,840 » Okay. >> Okay. 1409 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:23,840 Kyle, before that meeting, will you I'm sorry. Will you know the discussion with 1410 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:27,760 Noles County if they're going to stair step that or 1411 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:30,400 » Yep. That's that is coming quick. I don't have the date yet, but Bruce 1412 01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:32,560 agreed we need to get together and get that result. 1413 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,119 » Okay. That that'll >> right. You guys will know. 1414 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:40,880 » That'll help that discussion. And you'll also know after tomorrow's meeting where 1415 01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:46,480 Southwest Health Services stands. So, >> okay, Commissioner Rice, 1416 01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:53,199 » I had a Canvas board meeting on the 14th and 1417 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:56,360 then uh had a smart meeting last night. That's it. 1418 01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:06,159 Commissioner, where we at here, Jerry? >> I had a lift meeting yesterday. 1419 01:48:04,719 --> 01:48:09,360 That was it. >> That was it. 1420 01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:12,960 » I will be attending with the human services tomorrow. 1421 01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:20,400 » Okay. >> I had uh Rock County grow water 1422 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:27,440 canvas boats. I had soil and water and I went to power 1423 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:32,280 on meeting. Mhm. 1424 01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,280 » Other than that, I will 1425 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:40,320 adjourn order of the chair. And just a note, you probably saw it, 1426 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:42,400 but now JBO is leaving South Dakota. >> Really? 1427 01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:47,040 » Now they're going to North Dakota. >> Oh, Lake Preston's been a while and 1428 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:51,119 there's a big deal going on and now they're a 1429 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,520 » like they're like the hot potato. >> Yeah, they are.