1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Members of clock ready. 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,439 Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we'll call our meeting to order. This is the 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:25,519 Rockingham County Board of Elections special meeting. Um, we have an agenda 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:30,320 before us that we have received. First order of business would be to approve 5 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,280 the agenda. Is there a motion? Motion is that official 6 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:37,680 » been properly moved and seconded to approve the agenda. All in favor will 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,520 say I. All those no. The eyes have it. The agenda is approved. Uh Miss 8 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:48,480 Seamster. >> Okay. The first item on the agenda um we 9 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:56,719 had a notice. Well, I'm seeking approval of a notice of candidacy by petition for 10 00:00:52,399 --> 00:01:02,160 Ryan Boon Young for sheriff and the unaffiliated 11 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:07,520 petition is what he filled out. Um, he had to receive 2540 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:14,880 signatures. He has exceeded that amount. And what 13 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:23,040 I'm asking the board for tonight is the approval to put him on the general 14 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:28,960 election ballot, which is this fall. So, and these are his signatures. 15 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:35,040 » I'm sorry you said this fall. >> That would be November the 3rd, but he 16 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:42,320 will also be on the he will start going out in the September absentee 17 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:51,280 by mail ballots. But um the reason for this, he had a deadline of March the 3rd 18 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:58,079 by noon to get all of his signatures in and he actually got all his in prior to 19 00:01:54,399 --> 00:02:05,200 that. We do have one other unaffiliated candidate that is getting his petitions 20 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:09,840 done and if he needs that then we'll have that later as well. But right now, 21 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:18,400 I'm just seeking approval of the notice of candidacy by petition for Ryan Boon 22 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:22,800 Young to be on the ballot this coming November, the general election as an 23 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,560 unaffiliated sheriff. 24 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:31,200 » Okay, members, you've heard uh Miss Seamster's request um before motion. 25 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:37,200 Does anyone have any further questions or discussion for her? 26 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:41,760 And if not, I would entertain a motion. >> Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we 27 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:46,640 approve the uh notice of candidacy by petition for Ryan Young uh under 28 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,200 affiliated. >> Is there a second? 29 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:55,760 » Second that. >> All right. Further discussion, further 30 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:59,200 debate. If not, um question is for Ryan Young. This approval of notice for 31 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:05,280 candidacy. >> All in favor will say I 32 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:09,200 no. You guys have it and Cassie is approved. 33 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:15,040 » Thanks. >> Okay. The next item um and I've given 34 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:23,519 you a little bit of a heads up before. Um this is the approval of the fisc year 35 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:30,879 2025 2026 budget amendment for postage. Um and this we may not need all of this, 36 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:34,799 but right now we have $47 in our postage amount. 37 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:40,480 and I haven't received the bill for the last couple of weeks, 38 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:48,000 but what I am asking is that our general supplies line item be reduced by 3,000 39 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:54,400 and that our postage line item be increased by 3,000. This is already in 40 00:03:51,840 --> 00:04:01,120 our budget, so it's just moving from one line item to another. And um once the 41 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:09,599 board approves or denies, if you approve this, then it will move to the finance 42 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:15,040 director for her to approve. And I'm not sure if she'll have to take it before 43 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:20,720 the commissioners or not, but the first thing we have to do is for the local 44 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,520 board to approve the budget revision. >> Madam, 45 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:27,600 I'm sorry. >> We've heard Miss's request. Is there 46 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,120 further questions for Miss Singster? Miss Title? 47 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:34,479 » Yes. Where does that leave us uh in the budget as far as general supplies? 48 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:37,040 » We're good. >> We're good. 49 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,160 » Okay. >> Further questions or comments? Uh that's 50 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:46,000 right. >> No comment. Offer the motion. 51 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:52,080 » Okay. >> Ready for us? I offer a motion um for 52 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:56,960 approval of the fiscal 202526 budget amendment as stated by Miss 53 00:04:54,479 --> 00:04:59,360 Seamster. >> Is there a second? 54 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:04,880 » Second. >> Okay. It's been properly moved and 55 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:09,199 seconded to approve fiscal year 2526 budget amendment as presented by Miss 56 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Seamster. All in favor of the motion will signify by saying I. All those no. 57 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:21,360 The eyes have it and the amendment is approved. It seems to 58 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:26,800 » okay the real reason why we're here um entry seats you'll see the proposed 59 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:33,759 board of elections budget for fiscal year 2026 2027 60 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:39,840 um pretty much most of our budget which is 61 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:43,520 regular salaries board members temporary salaries 62 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:49,560 election well the election precinct salary I do that the health insurance, 63 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,560 FICA, 64 00:05:49,759 --> 00:06:02,160 regular ret um irregular retirement, unemployment, workers comp 65 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:09,039 that is given to us from the county. um the 66 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:15,919 precinct officials. This is based on and let me go back at the top of the page 67 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:23,520 you'll see over to the right hand side I have the fiscal year 2022 2023 that is 68 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:31,360 the same type of election we will have next fiscal year but I also incorporated 69 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:37,520 the fiscal year 2024 2025 because that is when a lot of the increases in 70 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:41,840 printing and some of our contracts increased. So I wanted to give a 71 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:48,080 comparison um so with the similar elections 72 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:55,759 different fiscal years so you'll have something to compare to and I'll provide 73 00:06:50,720 --> 00:07:01,280 this to the county as well. Um but just going through the election precinct 74 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:09,360 officials which is 4111 021 75 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:15,800 in fiscal year 2022 2023 we did actual actually expend 72,983 76 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,400 $90083 77 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:27,720 during the fiscal year 2024 2025, we expended $123,23326. 78 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:39,520 And with my estimates on what we're going to need for this general election, 79 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:47,840 you'll see over to the side, we have 96 early voting officials. It is a 12-hour 80 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:55,759 shift. We split that in half. And then we have 14 precincts with approximately 81 00:07:51,120 --> 00:08:01,440 200 officials, 12 to 14 per precinct. Um, we have noticed over the last couple 82 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:08,479 of years with the general elections, we have about 75% of our population to show 83 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:15,520 up for the general election. During the primary election, we do not. 84 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:22,879 this general election I am anticipating about the 75 plus% to show up. Um so 85 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:30,240 that is why I would like to leave put that at 125,000 which is close to the 86 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:34,719 2024 2025 fiscal budget. Are there any questions on that? 87 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:42,240 » I want to thank you for presenting about those fiscal years. That's very helpful. 88 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:46,320 members um comments or questions from >> on that category. 89 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:52,399 » Okay. All right. Well, like I said, the health insurance and the only thing with 90 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:57,120 FICA that I added in here is the temporary staff and the early voting 91 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:04,320 officials based on the budget numbers ahead. I mean, that were listed prior to 92 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:11,200 that. So, moving on to the Rockingham update live stream. Um that is Roy 93 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:17,200 Sawyers who's doing our meeting tonight. He usually does 12 regular meetings and 94 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:23,519 we do have four special call meetings in there. That could be for budget, that 95 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:30,160 could be for uh a recount. There's many things that we could have throughout the 96 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:36,480 year. And um I did ask Roy if he was having an increase and he said not this 97 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:42,399 year. So that is the $4,400 that is included in there. 98 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:45,200 » Members, further questions, further comments? 99 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:49,920 » I don't have a question on that category, but right above it, just out 100 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:54,160 of curiosity, I've never known insurance to go down. 101 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:58,480 » I haven't either. I found that very hard to believe. The only thing I can figure 102 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,600 is the workman comp claims have been low and they lowered. 103 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:07,040 » So they lowered our rates. Okay. >> But you're right. I question that cuz it 104 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:12,000 went from 189 up to 233 105 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,920 and then back down to 155. >> And the amount of claims probably does 106 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:21,200 impact what you do. >> Yeah. 107 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:26,880 » Further comments or questions members not the chair would entertain a motion 108 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:31,600 » or not do >> about the for the whole thing. 109 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,040 You want me to keep going? >> Well, keep going. 110 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:36,320 » Go ahead. >> Okay. All right. 111 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:43,279 » Um, the legal fee is 4123017. 112 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:50,000 Um, we use Keenan and Craver out of Durham. Um, we've always had just 113 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:55,760 $15,000 in there. He's only paid when we use his services. Um, that is the amount 114 00:10:53,120 --> 00:11:00,320 we have used since we started using him in 2021. 115 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:07,680 Um, as you can see in the 2024 2025, we used 116 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:13,519 a almost $11,000. If we have a 117 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:19,200 um hearing, that's when the money goes up. Um, just 118 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:26,640 like we just had one for the municipal election that's in this budget year and 119 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:32,959 that was a little right around $9,000. So you never know when you might need 120 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:40,000 that legal thing, but that was he came for two different hearings. So 121 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:47,120 » Oh, I do have a question about about that. So if so that's what we've that 122 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:50,480 number that 10,800 is for um >> actual spent 123 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:55,680 » for the year that we're still currently in until the end of June. 124 00:11:52,240 --> 00:12:00,480 » This was actually for the 24th. >> All right. We're in 26 now. 125 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:05,440 » That was rigs and 126 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:09,839 » and refresh my memory. What what what happened in that year that made us 127 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:13,120 » That was the um Supreme Court. >> Okay. Yes. Yes, I remember that now. 128 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,519 Yeah. >> Did we also have someone to challenge a 129 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,800 candidate? >> Yes, we did. That 130 00:12:19,839 --> 00:12:25,600 » we had a challenge for House of Representatives. 131 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,560 So, >> so I may be stepping slightly out 132 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,880 because it's not about this exact budget, but where are we on that 133 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,519 spending for the year that we're in in case we have challenges in this early 134 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:37,680 election? >> We still have a little bit of money left 135 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,200 in there. >> Okay. 136 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:44,240 » So, hopefully we will not, but >> and the budget starts over in July. 137 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:48,560 » July. Yeah, >> that is correct. So, if we have any 138 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,560 challenges, it will be during the primary. 139 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:57,600 » Yeah. >> So, further questions? 140 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:06,959 Okay. With the utilities, um, we do pay for 30% or 2/3 of the 141 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:13,120 cost. Um, and the county covers the rest because the gym is part of this 142 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:18,800 building. They pay 2/3 of that. Um, we never know with Duke Energy whether it's 143 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:26,000 going to go up or go down, but it's been pretty consistent. Um, so 144 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:32,079 I'm looking at $5,500 because we are 145 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:38,800 right around the 5,000 mark is what it's been for the last two 146 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,360 years with that 30%. >> That's right. 147 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:45,200 » I'm thinking you might need to put a little more than 148 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:49,360 that in there because I don't know about anybody else's utility bill. Mine has 149 00:13:48,959 --> 00:13:51,600 tripled. >> Yeah, they they've escalated quite a 150 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,160 bit. >> Yes, they have. Do you have any 151 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:57,519 recommendations? >> No, I don't. I just felt like this was 152 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:03,279 so what? >> My original amount was 6,200 and I 153 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:07,680 reduced it to what it had been for the last two years. 154 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:10,079 » I have to agree with a few of you. you might want to compensate for that 155 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,560 because >> yeah, 156 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:20,959 » I'm expecting the not only had the first two months been uh higher than normal, 157 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,959 but and it's probably going to be that same way in March, too. 158 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:29,199 » Okay. >> So, you'll go back to the 6,200. 159 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:32,639 » That's are you would you be good with that? 160 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:38,160 » That's instead of the 4945 87. >> Well, instead of the 55 161 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,279 » 55 I'm sorry. Yes. 60 >> 60 162 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,880 » 62 >> 6200. 163 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,760 » Okay. >> Do we need to uh make a vote to make 164 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 that amendment? 165 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:52,399 » This is just working. >> Yeah, we're just right now. 166 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,399 » So that's $700. Do y'all think that's enough? 167 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,959 » I think it'll put you in a better position than the 5500 will. 168 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:09,440 » Okay. >> All right. So, I'm going to add 700 to 169 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:15,040 the back. All right. Um, anything else on the utilities? 170 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:22,240 All right. The service maintenance, the security system monitoring, 171 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:28,480 it's been just shy of the $450. The voting equipment, I did get a quote on 172 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:34,320 that. Cleaning services, they do not anticipate any raises in their fees. and 173 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:41,519 the annual maintenance for security system and badge system. I received that 174 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:48,399 from the IT department what that was itemized at being or estimated at being. 175 00:15:45,839 --> 00:15:54,399 So, we're looking at a little bit more, which is the 40,440 176 00:15:50,880 --> 00:16:02,880 than what we anticipated. Well, what we actually spend in 2024 2025, 177 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:10,959 » but it's closer to the 2022 2023 budget. And the reason for that is in 2024 we 178 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:17,279 had just received the express votes and it was part of the package for the 179 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:23,600 service agreement is the reason why it was not as high in 24 versus 22. 180 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:28,800 » Okay. >> Um 181 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:33,040 the 30,000 for voting equipment >> that's the maintenance. 182 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:42,320 » That's the maintenance. They come out and they do we have 183 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:45,040 32 DS200s and 22 express boats. >> So those that's the new equipment that 184 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,600 we bought. >> Yes. It's well the DS200s are not the 185 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,519 new ones, but the express boat is the new ones. But they come out and they 186 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:59,680 service them. They go through each one of them and make sure that everything is 187 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:03,680 in operating order. And >> that's just prior to the elections. That 188 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:09,600 is prior. They do it once a year. Usually it's in March or April. Gotcha. 189 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:13,360 » Further comments on service and maintenance. 190 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:18,559 » So is increase by right >> 10,000. 191 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:25,360 » It's more in line with the 2022 because in 2024 that's when we got the 192 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:30,240 express votes. It would have been around the $37,000 193 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:34,280 figure, but with the purchase of that, they included the maintenance 194 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:42,799 for the first year. >> Okay. 195 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:47,760 » Okay. Building repair. We always put in an unexpected building repairs of 196 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:54,000 $1,000. We never know what might happen. It might be um a water closet or 197 00:17:52,160 --> 00:18:00,080 commode, whatever you want to call it. Could something could happen. We may 198 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:08,400 have to do that. But I am also asking to add two walls in the director's office. 199 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Um what that wall will do, it will make that room into two rooms where if you 200 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:19,120 come and you need to have a conversation with someone, you'll have somewhere you 201 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:23,120 can go. that is closed off. >> So, it's going to kind of be like what 202 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:24,080 we did last year when we used that. >> Yes. 203 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,640 » Okay. >> And that's just the rough estimate that 204 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,760 I've been given so far. >> Okay. Something asked about that. 205 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:36,520 » Yes. >> Further discussion on the building 206 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 repair. 207 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:47,760 um equipment repairs if there's something this you'll notice in 2022 208 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:53,120 2023 we had to get new batteries for the DS200s 209 00:18:49,440 --> 00:19:00,880 that's usually about every 5 to 6 years so that will be in our next one fiscal 210 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:06,240 year after this one um that there are three batteries that go into each of the 211 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:13,039 DS200 machines and that was what the cost was in 2020 22, but I'm not 212 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:18,320 anticipating those needing to be replaced this year. So, I'm just putting 213 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:24,120 1,000 in the unexpected equipment repairs. 214 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,120 » Comments or questions? 215 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:33,200 » Postage, um, absentees, the office mailings, NCOA cards, voter confirmation 216 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:40,640 cards, voter registration cards for one general election. Um, 217 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:45,600 we put in 20,000 last year and I would like to do the same thing. Hopefully, we 218 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:50,799 won't be sending out bulk voter registration cards, but you'll see in 219 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:58,960 2024 2025. We did go over the 20,000. We're 220 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:05,360 going over this year, but in both cases, we had changes in precincts. 221 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:07,520 So >> comments or questions? 222 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,760 » That's right. >> One question. 223 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:19,280 » Um on the the proposed one, the first one that you 224 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:22,799 gave us is one general election and general office 225 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,039 is office supplies. >> Okay. Office. 226 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:31,280 » Well, office mail or Yeah, it cut off that 227 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:36,799 » pro comments or questions. in the 2020 with 25. Didn't we have to change some 228 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:42,240 ballots too in 25 24? >> Yes, we did. 229 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:46,960 » Cuz that was we ordered the ballots and then they changed it at the last minute. 230 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:50,640 » Yeah. Yes. >> For comments or questions 231 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:56,720 or >> Okay. With the printing, um, we are 232 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:02,640 going to need some additional absent tea envelopes. Usually during the general 233 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:07,520 election it does increase and there are three different sizes of envelopes we 234 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:12,400 have to send with absentee. The provisional envelopes will be 235 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:16,720 changing this year as well. They were trying to get that done prior to the 236 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:22,080 primary election. They did not get it done. They're expecting those to come in 237 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:26,720 sometime May or June. So we'll be ordering those in the new fiscal year to 238 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:33,280 get new provisional envelopes. Um, the testing and the election 239 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:38,320 ballots, I'm anticipating those costing about 25,500. 240 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:43,360 That's a little slight more than what the primary election is costing us based 241 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,440 on the number of ballots I'll have to order. 242 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:53,039 The coding and the layout will be about $11,000. 243 00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:59,600 And then I'm estimating 10,500 for brochures, educational materials. We 244 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:04,960 will need to update our manuals during the general election and this is also 245 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:10,240 for public records requests, voter cards, anything else that we may need to 246 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:16,280 order that has to be printed outside of this office. So I am requesting $49,350. 247 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:22,880 » Comments or questions? >> Question on provisional balance. Are we 248 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:29,120 seeing a lot of those? >> Not during the primary. We usually do 249 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:34,080 not see them during the municipal or but the general election we usually send out 250 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:37,600 thousands. >> Answer questions. 251 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:42,400 » See? >> Okay. General election, I mean general 252 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:48,480 insurance is given to us by the county or provided by the county. The 253 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:54,080 communications is on the next page. The converge is our office phones here. The 254 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:59,600 cell phone allowance is the cell phone that everybody calls me on during 255 00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:07,600 elections. And then the myi, it should say general and not primary election. We 256 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:13,919 now have two myisi that we will be using for the Reedsville and the Eden sites. 257 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:20,240 So I'm anticipating that costing us about $150. we only have to pay for the 258 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:26,320 time that we use that instead of a yearly contract. 259 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:31,760 So, I'm estimating $2,100 for communications. 260 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:37,039 » Comments or questions? the advertising um 261 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:45,760 the advertising prior to the early voting it'll be about $650 miscellaneous 262 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:50,320 as far as any changes precinct moves and sometimes we have those sometimes we 263 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:57,919 don't but that's about $1,000 the required notices we usually try to send 264 00:23:53,600 --> 00:24:03,520 that out in the Rockham mail the Eden's own journal and sometimes we have Roy do 265 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:10,720 that as well as other outlets that we may use. And that's about $4,000. 266 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:15,679 And we have put this monthly audio and video programs out to promote get out 267 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:21,679 and vote, next year we will have more time. So 268 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:26,960 whereas this year with backtoback elections, we do not have that. Roy 269 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:32,080 usually helps us with that when we are able to do that. And we do need to 270 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:36,799 update some of our videos cuz a lot of them have changed. 271 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,080 So, but >> I said thank you. 272 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:47,919 » Yeah, thank you Rory. So, right now I am estimating $9,850 273 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:53,919 if the board wants to move forward with that monthly audio and video programs. 274 00:24:51,039 --> 00:25:00,159 We also do the podcast as well. >> Chair has a question. Um, so it is a 275 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,840 significant increase. Is that mainly the monthly audio and video programs by line 276 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,799 that's causing that? >> Yes. 277 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,919 » So that's the 4200. >> Yeah. Because we have not we've done a 278 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:16,799 few but we haven't done what we have projected and this is something that um 279 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,080 member Hampton when he was on the board really wanted us to do. 280 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:24,480 » Didn't we do some >> we did some 281 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:29,520 » and so we would have to make new ones. Yes. A lot of them have a lot of the 282 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,279 information has changed. >> That's true. Yeah. A lot of the mods 283 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:38,960 have changed. Yeah. >> So, but you'll see in the prior years, 284 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,760 we did not use all of that money. We may have done one or two. 285 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:46,960 » Well, let me ask you this. Did you see much of an impact from the um audio and 286 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:51,919 the video programs? >> Yes, we've had a lot of people watch it, 287 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,919 but like I said, a lot of them are outdated right now. 288 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:00,400 So they're not being shown. >> Well, they're on our website. They're on 289 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:07,360 our website. Our the podcasts are on there and the videos are on there. It's 290 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:12,240 under um voter information and they can look on there. How to use the DS200, how 291 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:19,919 to use the Express Vote, what the voting process is, um the 292 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:23,760 process for absentee ballots, and but there's several on there. Well, you can 293 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:32,400 probably answer this better than any of us can. Do you think that the uh 294 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:38,000 amount of coverage that that provided or the number of people that watched it 295 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:42,400 justifies a $4,200 increase? 296 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:45,600 » I think you're going to catch some flag from the commissioner. So, 297 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,400 » well, it's been on there each year. >> Has it? 298 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,640 » It's been on there. This will be the third year that it's been on there. Did 299 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,799 you what kind of response did you get from 300 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,200 the commissioners on it? No. No. No push back. 301 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,440 » You'd rather have a door. >> Well, I agree. But I'm just saying, you 302 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:07,600 know, if I were >> going to think of anything that might 303 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,400 you might get push back on, it would probably be that. 304 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:18,480 » Well, they know that our performance measurement that we're trying to achieve 305 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:23,840 is based on voter turnout. And if we can increase the voter turnout, then we're 306 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:30,400 meeting our performance measurements. >> So point of clarification then um 307 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:33,919 actually that 9850 is not as large of an increase from what was budgeted. It's 308 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,159 just more than what was spent spent. That is correct. 309 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,440 » So that's that's helpful. >> Further comments or questions? 310 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:46,640 » That was what I was going to ask. So do you remember what approximately not 311 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:50,240 exact what was budgeted? you know where we spent the 3500 but around was it 312 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:53,200 around the same number similar >> around the same number 313 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,120 » I think it's great I think it's certainly the best way to reach the 314 00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:01,120 younger voters and I think it's an important thing to do 315 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:09,200 » it is important >> further comments or questions 316 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:14,960 » okay um dues um the staff members here are part of the association we pay these 317 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:22,480 dues every year it's $30 for myself and 15 for the other two. Um, we attend the 318 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:26,000 NCAD conference and that normally we attend in March. I'm not sure if we'll 319 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:32,159 have it depends on whether we have a second primary or not, but nothing has 320 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:36,960 been sent out for March as of yet, but it'll be March or April when we'll 321 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:42,159 attend that conference. And usually that's when we find out 322 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:49,840 more information director-wise inside what's going on, 323 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:56,640 what the best practices are at other counties. We have more one- on-one time 324 00:28:52,320 --> 00:29:01,919 with just staff in the office and the state board is not present during those 325 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,200 meetings. I'll raise your questions 326 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,480 this evening. >> The travel um 327 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:15,679 for some reason we have this to use the county car, but 328 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:21,600 it always gets put into the general fund. They may take this account away, 329 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:26,480 but I put in the same thing we usually put, but you'll see the last two years 330 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:31,600 it says zero. We have used the county car. You'll notice it's parked outside. 331 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:37,360 mail during the elections. We usually have it the day before early voting 332 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:44,080 starts until the day after the election. Um, but it is at our disposal. We fill 333 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:49,200 it up um as needed and I turn those tickets in. That's where the line this 334 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:55,360 should be put, but normally they put it in general 335 00:29:52,159 --> 00:30:02,799 supplies instead of the travel. So they may or may not remove that line item. 336 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:07,520 » I've answered questions. >> Okay. The next is the board training. We 337 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:12,480 have one conference that will be coming up in August. It will be in Greensboro. 338 00:30:09,919 --> 00:30:20,240 So y'all will not be staying at the hotel there, but the what's included 339 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:25,760 there is registration and the meals. Um, you will be provided lunch for sure. 340 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:31,919 Sometimes they do breakfast, sometimes they do not, but if we stay late, then 341 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:40,159 that would also pay for your dinner. The mileage is 250 miles times five board 342 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:49,600 members if all five attend. And the mileage rate as of right now is 72 cents 343 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:56,080 per mile. So, I'm estimating $3,46 344 00:30:52,559 --> 00:31:00,880 for that conference, if all five. Point of clarification, I know this year, and 345 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:05,679 this is probably more for the public's uh knowledge, but uh that was mandatory 346 00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:10,399 training for us to attend and I would assume that it is the same. Well, what 347 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:18,720 they do, they do require that the board members attend two board meetings within 348 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:24,320 that first two-year time period. So, I know you attended the one we had 349 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,039 for >> July Wilmington. 350 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:34,000 » Wilmington and then we had the online but the members that have been on the 351 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,440 board for a while, they're not required, but the new members are. So, Wally, you 352 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:43,919 would be required. Yes. >> To attend because that would be your 353 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:50,320 first conference. So, >> okay. 354 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:55,039 » Uh question for uh the one that uh the online one that we had in February. Did 355 00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:56,880 you ever get the training materials from that? 356 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,519 » I have not as of yet. >> Okay. 357 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:02,720 » So, I will check again to see if they had posted it, but Okay. 358 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,720 » They were waiting on a couple of presentations before, but I will send 359 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,240 that out. comments or questions? 360 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:15,360 » Yeah, two questions. One, >> uh, 250 miles from here to Greensboro 361 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,000 » back and forth. >> Oh, for the multiple days. Thank you. 362 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,640 It's multiple days. >> That answers that. And then, uh, am I 363 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:25,919 not required to also do another training sooner than that? I thought in the 364 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,399 paperwork I read there was something that I needed to do like in first 90 365 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,720 days or something like that. >> That would be this conference, but it 366 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:35,840 you just >> even though it's further out than 90 367 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,200 days. Got you. >> And it might have to do with online 368 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,559 something. I >> did you have to do that? 369 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:49,039 » Okay. I'll look I'll look >> I'll send in a help ticket to see. Let 370 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:53,080 me put that on here. >> Further comments or questions. 371 00:32:54,399 --> 00:33:00,000 » All right. >> All right. The next is the staff 372 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:06,720 training. Did the same thing with the one conference in Greensboro. And then 373 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:13,679 with us not knowing where the NCA conference is, I included the hotel 374 00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:16,679 registration and the meals and we're at $3,750. 375 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,080 » Comments or questions? 376 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:32,640 » Okay. General supplies. Um I've is the supplies for the daily operations the 377 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:38,960 office any projects we have events and that is events that we have out in the 378 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:46,720 public like um FabFest um Riverfest 379 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:54,799 the Ruffen fall and spring festivals. We go to Madison Mayadan Stoneville. We try 380 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:58,640 to attend all of those festivals and we do try to update our brochures. They 381 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:04,000 have those available as well as registration forms. Anything that the 382 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:09,599 public may want, we try to have that there and that's part of that general 383 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:16,240 supplies. The Concord technology is our fax that comes in via our email. And 384 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:24,480 then the Toshiba copia charges or is our maintenance on 385 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:33,280 the Toshiba machines that covers the cost of the printing, the ink, and any 386 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:37,079 maintenance that's on there. So I am estimating $14,650. 387 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:49,280 In 2022 2023 we did our manuals. So but we did the 388 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:55,520 manuals here. That's what caused it to go up higher cuz we were using the tasha 389 00:34:52,480 --> 00:35:01,599 cuz we did not have it in print. >> You anticipated the chair's question. 390 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:09,200 Are there other comments? I remember that in 25 we were having to 391 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:15,280 deal with increased costs for all of our suppliers. 392 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:19,599 » Uh are we seeing that this year or is has all of that leveled off? 393 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:24,400 » It's leveled off a little bit. So they usually let us know when there's going 394 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:27,599 to be an anticipated increase and we and usually we've received it by now. We 395 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,800 have not. >> Gotcha. 396 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:35,920 comments, questions. >> I don't think you need to increase it 397 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:40,720 any can always >> have it there if you need to move 398 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,839 something else. I mean, if something comes up and you might take some of it, 399 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,440 but I >> I think we're good. 400 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:52,880 » Okay. I think we're good. >> Comments or questions? This seems to 401 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:59,040 » Okay. And then the last thing is the precinct supplies. And you'll see that 402 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:07,599 we're usually around $3,000. So I am estimating $5,000 for that. Um and 403 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:13,520 you know, usually we do $8,000, but 5,000 should be good. 404 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:18,480 » Comments or questions? Members, comments or questions regarding the 405 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:27,560 entire line? The new total with adding the um 406 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,560 utilities is 622,770. 407 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,560 » Sounds fun, 408 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:40,200 » which is a 60. You're talking about the total. 409 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,200 » The total it went from $622,70. 410 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:50,280 » Yeah. which is a $63,000 increase from what we actually spent in 411 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,280 204. 412 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:57,079 » Other comments or questions for Miss Ser, 413 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:09,119 » I just need to know if there's anything that the board thinks they need to 414 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:14,160 adjust. If not, is this a budget that the board would like to approve or would 415 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:17,839 you like to take more time to review it and schedule another meeting? It's 416 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:24,160 entirely up to you. >> Okay. Now, our chair said we would be 417 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,280 sending some something to get with you on that. 418 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,280 » All right. >> Cuz it may be something that he wanted 419 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,560 to add. Okay, >> it's the same amount, but if you'll look 420 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:40,000 at the board members monthly salary and election pay, um I did 421 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:46,960 » that's on what page is the first page, >> the 14,400. 422 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:55,200 I did submit a um board approval to the board of commissioners 423 00:37:49,040 --> 00:38:02,640 right before y'all arrived at 5. Um what the chairman is proposing is that 424 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:14,160 the monthly salary and the election pay be added together divided by 12 and then 425 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:21,119 a $50 allowance for cell phone and $75 allowance for travel cost 426 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:28,880 » um to come. You'll still get the same amount of pay, but it will be allocated 427 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:33,040 differently on the check. >> Okay. So, the total is not changing. 428 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,079 » Correct. >> Why Why do we need that breakdown? 429 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,640 » It >> I would address that. I've spoken with 430 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:47,520 the chair and just felt that it would make more sense to to balance it out 431 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:53,680 have the same every month as long as the total was the same. Thought it would be 432 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:57,359 easier for accounting purposes and just thought it would be more 433 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,760 » but the total is the same. >> The total is the same 434 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:06,480 » as what we have been getting. So, and it I don't think we I mean I'm not opposed 435 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:10,960 to doing it but I just don't see the need to do it. 436 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,839 I think it sounds like he's adding some some specifics in there as what the 437 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,119 money is for is what is that because you were saying something about travel and 438 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,079 phones. >> Yeah. 439 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:27,440 » And I understand that is consistent with what the board of commissioners does. 440 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:32,280 » I think that's where he gets that. >> Um 441 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,280 » that's right. 442 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:41,880 I I mean I'm I'm How much travel? The most travel that I 443 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,880 do is during 444 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:50,480 » and I'm just >> Well, you wouldn't have to. It would 445 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:55,359 still just be >> you would get the same amount of pay. It 446 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,640 would just be broken out differently in payroll. 447 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:04,400 » As far as accounting purposes, is accounting wanting that done? I mean, 448 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:10,560 are they not happy? Are they not I I don't really see the need. 449 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:16,640 » It comes down to the approval of the board of commissioners. That's what it I 450 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:23,280 just got the email probably around 3 3:30 that this is something according to 451 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,720 general statutes that anything like this would have to 452 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,320 actually be approved by the board of commissioners. 453 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:36,240 When you say anything like this, do you mean breaking it down like that? 454 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:40,000 » Yes. And um and that was from the finance director as well as the county 455 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,000 attorney. >> So, this is something that the board of 456 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,560 commissioners would have to address, not not us. 457 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:53,599 » Correct. They're the ones that would have to approve this change and it will 458 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:59,680 be on their agenda. It's tentatively on their agenda for 459 00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:05,520 Monday night. But Susan will let me know if it will be at a later meeting. But 460 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:10,319 the amount in our budget will not change. 461 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:16,240 It still will be the 144. It will just be reallocated. 462 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:21,119 » So when we get the final budget, if that gets approved by the commissioners, will 463 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:24,720 it be broken down in our budget uh our copy of the budget in that manner? 464 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:32,560 » It could be. >> Thank you. I can do that. 465 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:37,359 » It would still be what shows up on the public copy is per salary forecast. 466 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:43,200 There would not be a breakdown there at all. It would just be like at the 467 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:48,720 » it would say board members per salary forecast 14. 468 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:54,240 » That's all it was. >> So chair to comment. I would just say I 469 00:41:51,760 --> 00:42:00,560 believe it is not a matter of necessity is a matter of preference. 470 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:04,000 Um my personal opinion is that it's not changing the total. It's 471 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:10,000 » something that the chair would like to do. 472 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:14,000 » I don't have any reason to oppose it. Um and so I would support the chair's 473 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,599 decision if the board would would go along with that. 474 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,960 » Well, we're not approving that, are we? because she just said the commissioners 475 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,720 » commissioners do have to approve it, but we we recommend too. 476 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,800 » Yeah, >> this is a recommendation. 477 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:30,800 » I I don't have any opposition to it. I just think I don't think it's necessary. 478 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,640 » It's not necessary. That's correct. >> It's necessary. 479 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,640 » It is not necessary. It is a matter of preference. 480 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,000 » Further comments, further discussion, >> it doesn't really matter. We've already 481 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:51,640 presented it and sent it someplace. It doesn't really matter whether we whe 482 00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:51,640 whether we 483 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:58,000 want it sent that way or not, right? Because it's already 484 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,920 » It seems sir, are we not making a recommendation? Um, 485 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:08,079 » well, I was asked to send it to the clerk to the board so she could get it 486 00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:14,640 on the agenda for Monday night, >> but it would be nice to have a 487 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:19,040 recommendation from this board. Yes, >> that's my only challenge. 488 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:24,000 » That's my only challenge. I don't The the numbers aren't changing. I don't 489 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:28,160 care about that. The breaking it down. I think uh breaking it down for the public 490 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,839 to be able to see how the money is being spent. Although that doesn't sound like 491 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,480 the public one's going to have that, but I have a massive issue of sending 492 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:41,119 something off without this board it coming through this board. And that is 493 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,599 where I'm inclined to vote against it because of that. That's a huge issue for 494 00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:49,640 me. >> Further comments, discussion. 495 00:43:52,480 --> 00:44:01,839 Are we are we wanting to do it because the commissioners do it or is there 496 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:07,040 there's not it's not a necessity to have it and we've never had it before and 497 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,520 it's not something we're going to share with the public. Am I correct in saying 498 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:16,079 that? >> Well, it could be. What it does do is it 499 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:19,599 saves on FICA what the county has to pay to FICA. 500 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:26,480 » Really? Because you do not have to pay FICA on 501 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:30,400 sales I mean cell phone usage or travel. >> Saves who? 502 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:36,800 » The county sending in. >> You you probably also don't have to pay 503 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:39,119 income tax on on it if that way as well. >> That is true. 504 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,960 » Um I I I don't have an issue with the 505 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,599 thing, but I have a massive issue with the way it's been handled. 506 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,760 » The way it's >> been handled. Oh, 507 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:56,000 » by not coming through this board first, which it absolutely should have, and I 508 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,000 can't vote in favor of it because of that. 509 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:06,960 » So, point of clarification, it seems, are you saying I think what I 510 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:11,520 understand Mr. White be saying is that it's already been presented to them or 511 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,280 we making a recommendation if it's been suggested? 512 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,560 » I was called by the chair and asked to submit it to the clerk. So, so she could 513 00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:25,599 get >> they don't need our recommendation 514 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:30,560 » if they already have the information. >> I don't know if they have it as of yet. 515 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,920 Like I said, I sent it to her. It was probably 10 minutes till 5. 516 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200 » When are they meeting again? >> Monday. 517 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,079 » Monday. >> So, to be clear, the board of 518 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,200 commissioners can act with or without our recommendation. They're passing the 519 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,480 budget. We're simply making a recommendation. So we can remain silent 520 00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:54,160 on this issue and just if the board wants to make a recommendation on the 521 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:58,880 entire uh budget as far as the amount we can if we don't the commissioners 522 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:05,520 could do what they wish anyway but um we are 523 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,520 the same sir I believe is asking if we would like to approve and send a 524 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:14,640 recommendation for the budget the entire amount out 525 00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:17,760 » to the board of commissioners >> because it's not going to change. It's 526 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:22,800 not going to change the amount. >> He won't change the amount. 527 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:28,400 » Nothing's going to change. >> The amount the 14,400 528 00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:35,680 will not change. It will remain the same either way. 529 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:40,880 » So there there are two issues here. There is a matter of making a 530 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:47,079 recommendation on the entire budget that you gave us uh the 62 $22,770 531 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,240 that we could make a recommendation for that budget. 532 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:57,440 » Yes. >> And the second issue is that we could 533 00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:01,920 make a recommendation on this allocation or we could remain silent on that issue. 534 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,400 Would that be fair to say? >> Yes. 535 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:10,720 » Is there a third option? I'm not comfortable remaining silent either. 536 00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:15,839 » Third option would be to make some other recommendation if that's what the board 537 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:20,480 wanted to do or the another option would be not to make a recommendation on the 538 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,359 budget itself. >> We'll have a discussion on it and and 539 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:29,760 see where it I'm still not seeing where it's making a difference. If it's not 540 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:32,560 changing anything, 541 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,720 » I have no opposition to the budget. I trust Paula. We've asked our questions, 542 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:44,880 we've gotten our explanation. I'm prepared to go forward with the budget. 543 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:48,800 But, um, you know, if something's going forward to anyone, county commissioners 544 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:53,200 or anywhere else in the name of this board, it should be come through this 545 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:57,440 board and not around this board. >> I agree with that. 546 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:05,560 » And I need that on public record. >> Now, I'm not silent and I'm good to move 547 00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:05,560 on. Other comments or questions? 548 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:15,200 All right, members. Um, it seems sir has made a recommendation 549 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,839 or of $622,770 550 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:26,480 as amended during the discussion this evening. 551 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:35,599 If there's a motion, the motion would be for approval of this fiscal year 2627 552 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:38,559 budget as amended this evening. >> So moved. 553 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:43,680 » Second. >> Mo motion by Mr. White, second by Miss 554 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:51,359 Toten. Is there further discussion or debate? 555 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:58,240 If not, the question is the passage of budget recommendation for fiscal year 556 00:48:54,160 --> 00:49:02,960 2627 as amended this evening. All those in favor would signify by saying I. I. 557 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:09,520 » All oppose would say no. The eyes have it. And the recommendation is made. 558 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:14,720 And uh that seems to conclude our agenda. Minister, do you have anything? 559 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:22,480 Um we will be I'll be meeting with county management sometime. Normally we 560 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:27,839 have two members to usually attend that meeting with me so you can hear what the 561 00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:34,880 county management says. Would y'all like to do the same thing this fiscal year? 562 00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:40,880 » So just decide who wants to do that. I'll let you know. Um if they have any 563 00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:45,599 changes I will let the board be aware of that. So you'll know if there's any 564 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,839 changes to the budget from county management. 565 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:53,119 » What is that date? >> I don't know yet. 566 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:59,040 » As soon as I get some dates, I will try to send that out. 567 00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:03,040 » Can I just touch on something? I don't know how the commissioners did it and 568 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:07,440 we're not the commissioners, but when changes are being made or suggestions 569 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:11,680 are being made, I have to agree with Wally that the 570 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,920 board needs to participate in that that should be presented to us so that we can 571 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:21,760 have discussion on it and that's the way we've always done it. The board 572 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:27,599 participated in those decisions and you know making those decisions. Um we're 573 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:34,760 all a part of the board. So it is imperative that we be involved in the 574 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,760 processes and the decisions. 575 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,000 In other words, he's saying >> that's right. 576 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:46,400 » In other words, he's saying um had we had a discussion about this 577 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:54,640 before you sent, I think the comfort level would have been a lot um better. 578 00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,559 And I don't know how it's going to come back. You know, even if they decide, 579 00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:06,720 well, that sounds like a good idea. still we will have to make a decision as 580 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:14,079 to whether we >> I mean I just I just think that you know 581 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:20,960 like I said I've served on the board for four years and when decisions had to be 582 00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:27,760 made or suggestions or whatever they were always brought before the entire 583 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:34,559 board so that discussion could be had and a decision could be made that 584 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:38,480 everybody was in agreement with or you know 585 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,480 it it just works better that way I think. 586 00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:48,800 » Okay members before we uh adjourn are there any final comments right 587 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,079 » miss Titan >> no 588 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:52,160 » Mr. White. >> No, thank you. 589 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,119 » Would there entertain a motion that we adjourn? 590 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,400 » Some move. >> Second. It been properly moved and 591 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:05,640 seconded that we adjourned. All in favor say I. I. No. Eyes have it and we'll 592 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,640 adjourn. Thank you members.