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thank you so much Monty

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um good evening I would like to call to

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order the town of Rockport Board of

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selectman's meeting for Tuesday June 27

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2023 the time is 604 p.m

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um good evening everyone it's nice to

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see such a crowd tonight

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um first on our agenda we have a public

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comment and just so everyone knows there

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will be another public comment at the

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end of the meeting as well

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so if you would like to make a public

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comment just raise your hand or use the

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hand raise signal and Monty will

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um calling you

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anyone

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I see a few hands up Terry I see I'm

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sorry Monty I see Barbara Kaplan Dr

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Teresa rizzolo

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Barbara you've been unmuted

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I can unmute thank you yes I am I

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unmuted

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yes you are go ahead fabric happened for

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Ocean Avenue thank you for the

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opportunity to speak this evening and

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good evening

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uh I've been coming to most of the uh

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select board meetings for the last six

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months and as you know I've always been

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bringing up about Arbor funds because we

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know it's allowable to allocate arpa

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funds to affordable housing uh other

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towns have done so Gloucester got much

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more as a big city allocated according

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to a million so and we know Rockport

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needs to develop affordable housing it's

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not the whim of a few people because at

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the moment we're at 4.6 when Granite

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Crossing is done but we need the state

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wants us to be at 10 so it's a given

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that we have to get moving on this and

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after many months we were told a survey

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would be produced which it was uh last

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Monday night or afternoon and it was

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posted on the website

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the huge disappointment was there was no

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check box for affordable housing

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there was a second check box that

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combined non-profits and housing in

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general muddled together

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there fortunately was a write-in box so

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people in the know about Arc of funds

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and affordable housing could express

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their views there

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but what about

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just a person in Rockport who doesn't

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know much about affordable housing and

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the need we have to get going on it or

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maybe nothing or anything about ARCA

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funds how are they going to connect

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without a checkbox

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so that was extremely disappointing uh

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also it was stated Ms Wilkinson I

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Believe by you that once a survey came

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out it would be on uh social media I've

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checked every day it is not there it was

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also stated that there would be copies

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paper copies for those who aren't

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computer-save at the Town Hall

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I went to town hall yesterday because an

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elderly neighbor was asking me about

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that she I keep her poster on everything

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this lovely secretary knew nothing about

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it walked I believe into your office Mr

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Fiera and it took a few minutes for her

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to come back so I only noted that

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because I haven't rushed because we had

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to print some more of the ones that were

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on the bench outside were were all

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picked up apparently oh well you were

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and you were handed a copy as you walked

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out okay so you print yes so you printed

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it I I was one they were all taken

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before

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but the town clerk didn't know anything

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about it when I went to that uh place

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before I came to you so I was just

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hoping that you you know didn't just

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print it because I asked for it I would

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expect a stack to be at the town clerk

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so that people coming in and out of the

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office could fill it and I would expect

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on the website after explaining about

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Arbor you just say you can also pick up

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a paper copy a town hall to fill out so

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anyway uh that is basically it a a

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colleague of mine at the Rockport

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affordable housing Coalition asked you

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Mr Viera to please uh meet about the

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survey as soon as it came out because of

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our issues with it so there was no

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meeting and you didn't even answer her

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so that was that so once the survey is

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created it's created I can't go back in

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and and alter it we've released it I

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understand that and but it's just a

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matter of responding to her and saying

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and then uh uh we would like it to get on social

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media since that you stated that I would

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like to see a stack of copies by the

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town clerk doesn't have to be big

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probably many people aren't going in

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there and when the results of the survey

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come out we would like to see them

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published including the box of writing

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so that everybody in town can know uh

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the results and it will reflect uh your

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decisions will reflect those results and

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thank you very much for this opportunity

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to speak

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great um I I will say that I'm a little

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bit behind this week with my weekly

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update on social media I've had some

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personal stuff going on but um before

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the end of the week I'll do my kind of

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weekly update and I'll share it there so

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it will be getting out on social media

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if I may comment on that real quick um I

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was going to share it early in the week

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uh when it did it first come out but one

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of the first response we got before was

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even on social media was to please keep

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it within Rockport and don't put it on

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the web where Outsiders can answer those

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questions so that's why I I decided not

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to post it on Raw Port stuff and other

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social media Pages because that does

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influence the results from people living

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in Rockport and Beverly that joined

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those pagers that that want to comment

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on certain things so that's why I held

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back but I do understand the want for

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the social media brush but I just want

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to make that clear that one of the first

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response we got in the box there was to

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make sure I try to keep it within

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Rockport only yeah and I I will also

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comment just Barbara on one one of the

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things that you said

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um are what what we end up doing with

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the funds is it's actually up to the

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board of Selectmen just so I I want I

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want everyone to not be under the

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expectation that you know for example if

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there's a hundred thousand dollars that

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we follow the results of the survey

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accordingly

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um I will tell you I think the survey I

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haven't seen any of the results yet

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because we don't even see them until

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it's over but I think the um Town

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Administrator can tell us how many

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result how many we have so far but I

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think it's very well answered

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um but I will tell you that whenever we

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post something like this a lot of the

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results are

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um spam and are actually vile to be

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perfectly honest

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um so I think we will certainly find a

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way to appropriately release the results

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but I just don't want people to be under

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the the impression that if 98 of the you

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know of the sir of the people that

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answer the survey say you know to build

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a cement parking garage in the middle of

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town that that we are going to build a

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parking garage in the middle of town it

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is up to us but of course like with

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anything in town we do of course take

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the input of the residents

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seriously

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um Mitch can you just tell us how many

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we have or like had at one point do you

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have any idea

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um there's there's currently

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206 responses great

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cool so we're off to a good start which

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is great

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um okay

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Monty all you

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Teresa you've been unmuted

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thank you

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um I sent a a

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series of questions to the board of

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Selectmen and I've spoken to Ross

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Brackett about it can we get your name

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and address for the record

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I'm sorry can we get your name and

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address for the record oh yes I'm sorry

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Cherry rosalo seven or excuse me for

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Summit in Rockport

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um I had sent a

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series of questions that I was

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requesting be put on the agenda for the

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Selectmen and Sarah graciously responded

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to my email but my point was not so much

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to have one person answer but to have a

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series of discussions with regard to

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issues that uh are of concerned to me

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into several other people my questions

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related to the issue of the Long Beach

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property and Long Beach leases and

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several of my questions

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um were directed toward asking for more

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um Clarity and more transparency from

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the board of Selectmen very specifically

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and Sarah responded to this and I'm

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hoping that she shared the email with

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you I think I sent it to all of the uh

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Selectmen but that you know there's

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um I think a great need for transparency

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and and a

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um understanding for us as townspeople

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if there are any conflicts of interest

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on a personal professional or financial

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basis for any of the Selectmen and by

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that I meant very specifically do any of

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you manage properties for the leases do

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you own a house as an individual as part

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of your family trust as an LLC or have a

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family member who is one of the people

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who leases the properties

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uh or do you consult with any of the

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leases uh in any capacity I think that

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given that this uh property is probably

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one of the biggest Financial issues for

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the town

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and that the desire to have everything

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up front to have any conflicts of

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interest uh to be known by all of us is

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very important and uh speaks very highly

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about whether or not things are being

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done ethically and with uh everything up

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above board

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in addition to that I asked uh that uh

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the information about our current

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um Law Firm that is handling the lease

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and Sarah directed me to look at the

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website for The Firm and from anything I

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gather there it still didn't answer my

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question which is this kind of land is

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very very specific in terms of uh the

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need for Land Management of coastal

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waterways and seacoasts and issues

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protecting the rights for public rights

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of way and we've already had two

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instances in town where we did not end

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up the town did not end up in a very

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good position along the Atlantic path

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um at least from my reading of the

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current lease the town is in Jeopardy uh

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for

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the properties if there is a

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catastrophic failure of that wall

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and again the protection

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of the idea that will only if we are

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neglectful will we be held liable we

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already know that people are pretty

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litiginous

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and I really would like to know that the

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law firm uh is not just the house

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Council but that really maybe we need

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counsel that is specifically have the

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expertise that is

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um very unique in this environment so

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um I request that the board consider

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those and that we have those as an

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agenda item that will be published so

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that other people will be aware of that

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and that we can have those questions

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responded to in a timely manner thank

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you sure so Dr rosillo just to clarify I um I received your email obviously and

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I took the time to answer all I'd be

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happy to read the entire email

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um which may be actually the beginning I

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should read because I think it's helpful

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and it probably explains the situation

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so I wrote dear Dr rosolo thank you for

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your email to the board of Selectmen I

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wrote it is so unfortunate that you did

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not attend our last meeting as I

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provided an extended update on the Long

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Beach lease situation Nation those in

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attendance found it very helpful I would

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recommend that you watch the recording

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of our meeting which can be found here

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on the town website with a link and then

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all Town meetings are posted here

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usually within a few days of the meeting

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occurring as most of the items on your

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list are actually questions and not

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appropriate agenda items I am happy to

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answer them below or explain how the

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board can address them and then I went

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through and I answered each question for

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example who do we use for Town Council I

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explained who we used I sent you to

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their website and then the one that I

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did say was an appropriate was

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appropriate for you to ask and a meeting

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was the conflict of interest and I wrote

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the most appropriate time to ask this is

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during one of the public comment

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portions of our meeting there's one at

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the beginning and end of each meeting if

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you attend and ask the questions I will

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make sure that each board member has

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ample time to answer them if they choose

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to do so personally so I think at this

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point it's totally appropriate we can

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ask each board member if they'd like to

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answer about the conflicts of interest I

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also think it's helpful to remind people

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that obviously we follow you know we we

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do our best to follow the math

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Massachusetts

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the open meeting law the the

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um the ethics laws and several of us

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it's a it's a personal thing but when we

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do have a conflict we file a disclosure

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with the town clerk over the years I've

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filed several sometimes you go in and

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update them and so um typically like if

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you know if someone is curious on a

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topic if one of us does have a a

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personal financial interest you can

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always go check with the town clerk's

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office they can pull our folder but um I

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do think it's totally appropriate to ask

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that and I would love to if people want

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to would like to answer the question I'm

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happy to give them time to do so

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anyone want Mrs seleckman Murphy

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yes uh thank you madam chair I have zero

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conflicts with uh Long Beach I never

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have in fact I ran when I ran for Board

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of selectman that was one of the uh

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items that I brought up that I do not

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have conflicts with uh Town employees uh

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working family members things of that

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nature in terms of uh the koplin and

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Paige they are an outstanding law firm

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of one of the top Municipal law firms in

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the Commonwealth and they have a

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tremendous amount of resources so I'm

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very confident uh in that our Law Firm

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helping us with the uh the leases so but

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to answer uh Terry's question I do not

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have any conflicts great

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um selectman Donnelly

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yeah hi um I have zero conflicts as well

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um no connections at all with anyone on

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Long Beach

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except for

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um that Dairy made

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uh selectman Lilia

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oh I think you're muted

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nope one more time

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thank you both muted and unmuted at the

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same time there you go

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nope he's still muted Monty

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hmm

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okay there you go run muted now no

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excuse me I have no conflicts I do not

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own any property in Long Beach I know no

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one who owns property in Long Beach

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um I feel quite comfortable in saying

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that my decisions will not be biased in

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any particular way

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right select my bracket uh yes I have no

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conflicts and as I've mentioned before I

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see them just as any Resident of

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Rockport so I do have contact with them

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on a regular basis if they want to reach

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out with asked questions as I do with

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all residents that's the only connection

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I really have

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great and then um I'll answer for myself

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I do not have any conflicts either I do

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have a property management business I

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don't and have never managed any

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properties down on Long Beach

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um own a house I do live uh in the Long

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Beach neighborhood which I've always

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disclosed but we all live somewhere in

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town

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um but I have no

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um none of these the answer to all these

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is is no for me so thanks

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um and then the rest of your questions I

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believe I answered I don't

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um at our last meeting I gave an

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extended update I explained that we are

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working hard to get the lease completed

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we last week maybe have might have been

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10 days ago had a very long a several

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hour executive session

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um the goal our my kind of personal goal

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for the board is for us to finish our

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work on the lease and be able to release

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it to the public is this summer

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um August at the latest I think it would

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be really nice to be done with it for

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the town and the residents and for the

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board

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um

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and I think that's it for now

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yeah

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JT you've been unmuted

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thank you uh Toby Arsenio 95 Granite

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Street uh yesterday afternoon before the

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computer malfunctioned I attended part

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of the government and bylaw committee

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meeting they were discussing uh Z

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cephalus petition article on the

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possible removal of uh public officials

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um that was referred to the government

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and bylaw committee uh by a motion at

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town meeting offered by uh Pat Brown

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um and it was a proper motion uh in that

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it named a Time certain they were to

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report back to the fall time meeting now

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it turns out that there will be in

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effect no report uh the government and

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bylaw committee which had previously

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decided to recommend against Mr sepulis

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petition article has decided that it is

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not in their purview or their uh charge

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to offer any uh improvements so uh

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although Pat Brown's motion was in order

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uh those who voted for it in good faith

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thinking that they might be offered

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something that might or might not be an

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improvement uh will find themselves

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disappointed they will be offered the

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same petition article and presumably the

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same recommendations from the government

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and bylaw committee this may all be

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according to Hoyle and according to law

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but it is not good government and it is

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not in good faith

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um the whole point of delaying it was

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possibly to get something better or that

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presumably was the hope of Pat Brown

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when she offered it and uh the citizens

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voted for it this ties back to my

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concerns last week uh not last week at

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your last meeting when I spoke about a

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possible lighting bylaw to deal with

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Municipal and uh commercial uses and was

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told by Denise Donnelly write it

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yourself as it turns out the government

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and bylaw committee is only responsible

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for reviewing the bylaws every five

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years and beyond that we're making

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recommendations on citizens petition

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articles or any other articles that come

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before the town meeting relating to

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bylaws and the charter they're not

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respond possible for fixing anything

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else and have decided narrowly that that

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is not their concern if it's not in the

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bylaws already

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they're not going to come up with

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anything to help you so the narrowest

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possible approach to um their duties and

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uh if you read what's in the code of

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bylaws now they're Justified uh and it

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doesn't cover the field and I'm asking

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you uh to uh get the government and

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bylaw committee to one of your meetings

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along with the moderator and discuss the

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possibility of uh giving the government

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and bylaw committee a new and extended

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Charter

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with the planning board uh they are the

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guardians of the zoning bylaw not the uh

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board of appeals the planning board and

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it's up to them to offer possible

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improvements but it's not the same

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pattern for the government and bylaw

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committee if it isn't there uh and they

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decide it's defective it's not their

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business and uh you fall back on Denise

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uh Donnelly's unhelpful suggestion go do

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it yourself so my question is to you are

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you willing to invite them in uh for a

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meeting the government and bylaw

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committee along with the moderator and

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discuss how we might uh come up with a

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better charge uh more comprehensive for

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the government and bylaw committee

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I would like an answer not now uh but at

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your next meeting

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okay thank you Toby

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Laura you've been unmuted oh thank you

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um I'm Laura Evans 77 High Street and I

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wanted to support what uh Barbara Kaplan

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earlier said about uh disappointment in

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the arpa fund survey after a drum roll

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of about six months there comes out a

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survey that has four check boxes on it

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and a comment field and none of the

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check boxes said the words affordable

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housing in them and so it's um and and

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it's due on Friday it's due in three

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days so I think if Miss Wilkinson goes

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and posted on social media at the end of

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the week that's the day that it's due

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so I think to get you know there there

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are clearly ways where you could stop

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the responses from being vile as Miss

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Wilkinson said by asking people to sign

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I think a lot of people would be happy

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to to sign and say what their opinions

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are but we need the public needs

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background on what you know what are the

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allowable buckets that the arpa money

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can go into the 2.1 million dollars that

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we have and one of those buckets is

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affordable housing and but none of that

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background was given on this survey so

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it was disappointing and I really look

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forward to being able to look at the

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results when we're ready for them and

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when they're ready when they're due and

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secondly

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um I was wondering about

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um I think I might have asked this

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before about the Personnel Board on our

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in our town bylaws on page 20 the

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Personnel Board is described and yet we

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don't have a Personnel Board that I

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think would really help a lot of us

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volunteer tiers and employees in town to

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be able to appeal to a board of our

552
00:24:21,539 --> 00:24:23,820
peers you know whenever there's an issue

553
00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:26,159
and not incur any kind of legal costs

554
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:29,159
but it's written into the bylaws for a

555
00:24:29,159 --> 00:24:32,880
reason and uh I I just wonder what the

556
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,039
status of that is and then the last

557
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:38,100
question I have is

558
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:41,820
um the job of assistant Town manager

559
00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:44,280
um when Mitch goes on vacation who can

560
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,620
stand in for him I mean we've always you

561
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,600
know we have an assistant librarian and

562
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,640
you know an assistant

563
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,580
um Town manager we it's a it's a

564
00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:56,280
position that's funded and hopefully

565
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,860
will be advertised and and filled so

566
00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:01,919
Mitch gets some support in that regard

567
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:03,440
um and the town

568
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,940
mitigates its risk of you know just

569
00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:08,460
having all our eggs in one basket thank

570
00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:10,200
you very much for the opportunity to

571
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,510
speak

572
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,960
it's a Town Administrator not a town

573
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720
manager uh Laura and uh the reason I say

574
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,740
that because there is a big difference

575
00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:21,960
between the two and the authority so

576
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,370
thank thank you for your comments

577
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:30,419
great

578
00:25:30,419 --> 00:25:33,720
um and uh one other clarification if

579
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,940
um if I didn't realize that the arpa

580
00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:38,039
survey was supposed to end on Friday if

581
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:39,840
I if we don't if it gets posted in the

582
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,000
next few days we'll extend it we won't

583
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,279
I'll absolutely not share it on social

584
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,980
media the day the day it closes so no

585
00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:50,220
worries we can easily extend it longer

586
00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:53,220
um okay next Monty Jared Roy you've been

587
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,559
unmuted uh thank you very much uh thank

588
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:57,059
you for the opportunity to speak uh

589
00:25:57,059 --> 00:25:59,820
Gerard Roy I live on Main Street a

590
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:01,919
Rockport and I was just curious I'm I'm

591
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:05,100
supporting uh both Barbara and Laura and

592
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,740
an affordable housing situation

593
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,960
um I was just curious is it possible to

594
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,240
distribute the uh the survey on the

595
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,460
emergency contact uh website that the

596
00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:17,100
town has for snow emergencies and no

597
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:21,900
parking uh during the winter and is that still operable

598
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:27,240
um number one and uh number two is it is

599
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,860
it possible to update the survey if

600
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:30,059
you're going to extend it from this

601
00:26:30,059 --> 00:26:33,659
Friday to add on various

602
00:26:33,659 --> 00:26:37,020
um subjects like uh schools uh

603
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:39,659
infrastructure affordable housing so

604
00:26:39,659 --> 00:26:44,400
that people have something to choose from and what you know uh that

605
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,900
falls in line with what the priorities

606
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:47,640
for are for the town and for the

607
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,360
selectment in the town to to give a

608
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,320
little help to the community to help

609
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,179
them make a decision

610
00:26:57,179 --> 00:26:59,220
um and I also want to say I think this

611
00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:00,960
is a prime time for affordable housing

612
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,659
in the State uh and the country and uh

613
00:27:03,659 --> 00:27:06,240
in the community because of our governor

614
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,120
that's um putting a lot of programs uh

615
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,980
in effect I'm sure you all heard of the

616
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:14,039
50 million dollar uh green uh Green Bank

617
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:15,900
that would serve as a really good

618
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,880
leverage for additional funding for

619
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,159
affordable housing as well as this uh

620
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:22,860
any funds from um what I call what I'm

621
00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:25,559
calling the code funds the arpa monies

622
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,440
that would leverage uh you know uh

623
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,340
private monies other private monies

624
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:33,840
for uh either

625
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,020
um new construction or rehab renovation

626
00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:40,260
of uh of dwellings for um affordable

627
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:41,820
housing

628
00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:43,559
um and and also finally I guess I'm

629
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:51,059
curious uh given the um the the shock on uh on affordable

630
00:27:51,059 --> 00:27:54,120
housing with the uh uh uh select

631
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,340
person's uh stance is on affordable

632
00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:58,200
housing where because I mean there's no

633
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,120
sense um all these people that are on

634
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,260
the affordable housing committee and

635
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:02,940
other committees in southern committee

636
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:05,640
that was formed by the selectment for um

637
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,039
uh putting this energy into affordable

638
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:13,740
housing you have to select people uh uh presently uh in existence with the

639
00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:16,260
town are not favorable for affordable

640
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,419
housing it's wasting a lot of energy for

641
00:28:18,419 --> 00:28:21,059
a lot of people that are very devoted to

642
00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:24,000
um affordable housing and that's all I'm going to say thank you

643
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000
very much uh Miss Wilkinson great thanks

644
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,500
um just to answer a couple of your

645
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,120
questions quickly

646
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,820
um I think I'm not I I don't believe you

647
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:35,100
were at our last meeting but we were all

648
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,940
um I I would say very adamant that we

649
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:41,039
are extremely supportive of affordable

650
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,279
housing three out of the five Selectmen

651
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,020
right now are working on separate

652
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:48,299
affordable housing different affordable

653
00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:50,100
housing projects

654
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,020
um and I think it's fair to say that we

655
00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:53,400
all have the same goal I don't want to

656
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,740
put words in anyone's mouths but

657
00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:57,840
um of increasing affordable housing in

658
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,940
town so um if you'd like more detail

659
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,279
you're welcome to watch our last

660
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,140
recording or the last several recordings

661
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,760
you can you're also welcome to reach out

662
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000
to any of us individually

663
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,679
um and just to answer a few of your

664
00:29:10,679 --> 00:29:12,659
questions we can't change the survey

665
00:29:12,659 --> 00:29:15,840
because we already have 200 responses

666
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,500
um and the survey was crafted because

667
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,559
um while the handful of people here are

668
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,419
saying there should have been a specific

669
00:29:24,419 --> 00:29:26,880
check box for affordable housing we

670
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,919
received lots of feedback that there

671
00:29:28,919 --> 00:29:30,960
should have been lots of other very

672
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480
specific check boxes so

673
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520
um we honestly we want to get as much

674
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,460
feedback is possible and most people I

675
00:29:38,460 --> 00:29:40,140
know who have taken the time to answer

676
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:44,100
it have you know know about arpa funds

677
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:45,779
or it's pretty easy to look up what

678
00:29:45,779 --> 00:29:47,700
they're but if we were to to be very

679
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,880
specific and list every single

680
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,980
um organization every single use I think

681
00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,080
that kind of defeats the purpose you

682
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760
know we're trying to get General ideas

683
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,220
of what what the townspeople support and

684
00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:01,799
I'm I'm hopeful that that overall the

685
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:03,539
responses will do that um the other

686
00:30:03,539 --> 00:30:05,700
thing is we've discussed and I'll follow

687
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:07,740
up with the Town Administrator we can't

688
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:10,140
use the emergency code red system

689
00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:12,360
because

690
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,399
um we've we've made it very clear to the

691
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:16,020
townspeople that that's going to just be

692
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:18,779
used for specific emergencies but that

693
00:30:18,779 --> 00:30:23,220
system does have uh an opt-in for do you

694
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:25,200
want to hear about non-emergency type

695
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720
things and that just I believe is an

696
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,820
email that can go out and we've

697
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:31,440
discussed we discussed sending this out

698
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,419
that way so I will follow up and if

699
00:30:33,419 --> 00:30:35,220
that's a possibility we will do that in

700
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,380
the next day or so as well if it hasn't

701
00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:41,640
already happened so thank you for your comments

702
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,340
next oh her I think her um select

703
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:45,960
milalia did you want to make a comment

704
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,380
on that as well yes I I want to

705
00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:51,419
um speak to my own personal conviction

706
00:30:51,419 --> 00:30:53,720
with regard to affordable housing

707
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,000
I hope that my brethren who in

708
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,559
particular are as supportive of

709
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:00,360
affordable housing

710
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,000
um as I am on that is not always not

711
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,799
always been clear

712
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,159
um I would say to anyone in the town of

713
00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:10,140
Rockwood if you are in favor of

714
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:12,480
affordable housing then go to the CPC

715
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,940
get the CPC to support affordable

716
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:18,059
housing my experience with the CPC of

717
00:31:18,059 --> 00:31:21,720
late based on a situation over which I

718
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,700
as a chairman of the Rockwood affordable

719
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,179
housing trust fund had nothing to do

720
00:31:27,179 --> 00:31:29,720
with the lateness of that application

721
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,120
that should be overlooked by the CPC

722
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,820
should have been reconsidered last week

723
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,640
should be reconsidered in the future and

724
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,500
if there is conviction in town for

725
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,140
affordable housing then go to the CPC

726
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:45,899
lay it at that door tell them that they

727
00:31:45,899 --> 00:31:47,580
are the ones who have immediate funds

728
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:49,919
that could be used for affordable

729
00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:53,220
housing therein lies the beginning of

730
00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:58,630
all of this thank you

731
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,020
I just want to make sure it's clear that

732
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,179
the public does know that the CPC has

733
00:32:03,179 --> 00:32:06,720
already given roughly 2.4 around that

734
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,820
range of of money to affordable housing

735
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:10,260
it may have not have been to the

736
00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,120
committee that so I've been lay your

737
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,860
chairs but they have given money to

738
00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:16,200
affordable housing and not for it I just

739
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,000
want to make sure that's cool yeah I

740
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,039
would I need to respond

741
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,679
that is not affordable housing in the

742
00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:25,200
nature of what is needed in town it is

743
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,399
not

744
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:30,179
um housing for new families is not

745
00:32:30,179 --> 00:32:32,220
housing for young people all of the

746
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:33,960
money that's been given in town is for

747
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480
people who are retired or who are

748
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
elderly or who are extremely on

749
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,419
short-hand finances there is a distinct

750
00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:45,299
difference between what has been

751
00:32:45,299 --> 00:32:48,419
financed to this point in time by CPC

752
00:32:48,419 --> 00:32:50,399
and what should be financed in the

753
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:52,679
future so don't confuse the two please

754
00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:54,059
them

755
00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:56,399
slack mellow yeah unfortunately I have

756
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:59,700
to agree with slackman bracket CPC has

757
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:01,740
been more than supportive of affordable

758
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:05,220
housing they follow the rules your your

759
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:07,080
proposal had nothing to do with the

760
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000
subject it was following the rules of

761
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
CPC which we can we could argue and

762
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,279
debate about but I think it's clear CPC

763
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,500
has given thousands and thousands of

764
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,720
dollars to action for rent assistance

765
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,080
during covid during regular times their

766
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720
supportive CPC of affordable housing

767
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,260
they have I believe supported almost if

768
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:31,140
not every affordable housing proposal

769
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:33,299
that has been made over the the last

770
00:33:33,299 --> 00:33:34,919
several years at least since I've been

771
00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:36,600
on the board of Selectmen and that has

772
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,299
touched people of all ages of all

773
00:33:39,299 --> 00:33:41,820
backgrounds and all types of of

774
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:46,130
situations

775
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:47,760
go ahead did you want to make one more

776
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,980
comment well it's that's not true it

777
00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:51,720
simply is not true the affordable

778
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,880
housing the housing that has been

779
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,460
provided to people in town is for those

780
00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:58,980
who are in their retirement phase no

781
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:01,200
let's not provide weight please

782
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,419
they have not you have not provided any

783
00:34:03,419 --> 00:34:06,240
housing for young marrieds there has not

784
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,820
been an effort to try to develop land

785
00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:11,159
associated with small housing says start

786
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:15,240
at homes it's not true that that all

787
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,879
aspects of affordable housing by state

788
00:34:17,879 --> 00:34:19,260
guidelines

789
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:22,560
um have been supported by CPC and cpc's

790
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,200
guidelines and if I want to call a spade between the uh individuals the

791
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,060
other individuals on the board of

792
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:32,760
Selectmen who are supposedly supporting

793
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,080
on affordable housing it is that part of

794
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,520
the board of Selectmen which has

795
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,099
frustrated the application that went to

796
00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:45,260
CPC that is not if in fact if in fact

797
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:48,119
what affordable housing trust had been

798
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,280
activated in a timely fashion there

799
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,839
wouldn't be this question about a late

800
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,560
application and to say that that

801
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,879
application or the receipt of that

802
00:34:56,879 --> 00:35:00,240
application is the um Crux of the

803
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,780
problem is overstating or or missing the

804
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,940
point the point is we need affordable

805
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:08,760
housing and the funds sit with the CPC

806
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640
and for the CPC to sit on funds to the

807
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
end of the year and to laud themselves

808
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,660
with regard to the fact that they have

809
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:18,720
funds available and not use them is a

810
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,940
crime it's a sin it isn't for the

811
00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:22,980
benefit of Rockport if I may Madam chair

812
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,200
sure just I just want to say regardless

813
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,720
of the late timing of the application or

814
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,320
not the application itself was was very

815
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,940
was incomplete as far as I'm concerned

816
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:35,280
and the committee as of now regardless

817
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440
of when we started at the state it's in

818
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,900
now still doesn't have a vision or a

819
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,460
route they want to go they were asking

820
00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:43,320
for five hundred thousand dollars to put

821
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,300
into a fund that's it so that money

822
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:46,560
would be sitting there for another year

823
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,599
probably until they figure out what

824
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:50,220
they'd wanted to do so to continue to

825
00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:52,680
attack the CPC for an application that

826
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,119
the committee didn't even know was being

827
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,579
submitted by the chairman until after it

828
00:35:56,579 --> 00:35:59,520
was submitted and then the fact that it

829
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,619
was late that's what all the questions

830
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,300
were asked at the meeting at CPC so

831
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:04,440
people can go to that and I encourage

832
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,700
them to go to the airport affordable

833
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,680
housing meetings as well and ask

834
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,380
questions as I've asked what does what

835
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:11,940
is their vision and I've gotten an

836
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:13,920
answer different from each member so

837
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,079
that's where I stand and I mean I don't

838
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:17,400
want to prolong this any longer but

839
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,260
right I'm done on the medicine right

840
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:24,060
thank you Russell I want a final comment because the

841
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:28,920
distinction that you draw between the Conservation Commission and

842
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
the Rockford affordable housing trust is

843
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,079
an artificial distinction the

844
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,180
Conservation Commission receives funds

845
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:39,119
to be unspent for any specified period

846
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:41,460
of time until they amass an amount of

847
00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:43,440
money that can be used to purchase a lot

848
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,380
that is the same kind of situation that

849
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:48,060
the Rockford affordable housing trust

850
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,760
finds itself in whether everything that

851
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,740
we would like to do in the future has

852
00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:55,020
been defined in our plan is totally

853
00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:56,880
immaterial because the five hundred

854
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,740
thousand dollars that in fact would be

855
00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:01,920
transferred to a fund for other Rockford

856
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,960
affordable house Housing Trust Fund

857
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,660
would be the start of an accumulation of

858
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:08,400
money that would then enable us to do it

859
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,380
you don't question the Conservation

860
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:12,119
Commission why do you question

861
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,180
affordable housing and try to put an end

862
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:17,040
point to affordable housing but

863
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,859
conservation can go on as if there's

864
00:37:19,859 --> 00:37:22,079
some sort of blind

865
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,540
um reasoning there or or completely

866
00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:27,000
understood reasoning when in fact there

867
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,700
is no project in mind when you in fact

868
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:31,140
give money to the Conservation

869
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:32,220
Commission

870
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:34,920
Herm this is we we need to end this and

871
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,440
move on but this is so sad and you're

872
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,079
arguing and being argumentative and

873
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,540
blaming the CPC blaming other members of

874
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:44,760
the board of Selectmen frankly this is a

875
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,680
big reason why we aren't further along

876
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,480
with affordable housing it's the reason

877
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,480
why two of us please let me finish it's

878
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,060
the reason why two of us have broken off

879
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:56,400
and started a separate Land Trust

880
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
because frankly the only let me finish

881
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,640
the only way affordable housing besides

882
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,200
the projects that are already happening

883
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,079
and there are six family units in the

884
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,060
Granite Street project I toured it it's

885
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:14,700
beautiful those are free for families to move here and be here but the only

886
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,160
way real affordable housing is going to

887
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,160
happen is if we stop arguing and work

888
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,740
together to make it happen it's not a

889
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:25,980
competition we just want to see you know

890
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:28,320
we just want to see families who work

891
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,060
here who want to live here who want to

892
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:32,160
send their kids to school here and

893
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,560
blaming CPC blaming other members of the

894
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,839
board of Seckman is not going to help us

895
00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:40,390
towards that goal

896
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,320
I encourage anyone who's interested to

897
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,700
reach out to any of us individually to see what we're personally doing what

898
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,619
our beliefs are

899
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,839
um the struggle is real you know I hate

900
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,060
to say it but the struggle is real but I

901
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:56,700
think the beauty of it is CPC has a lot

902
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,460
of money over the years they have proved

903
00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:02,640
that they are adamantly adamantly in

904
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,740
support of affordable housing in all of

905
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:07,680
the different projects they support and

906
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,820
um personally I you know look forward to working with them going forward to

907
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:14,280
get funding your words your words are

908
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,619
wonderful and they always are and they

909
00:39:16,619 --> 00:39:18,780
always gloss over what in fact are the

910
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:21,780
feelings and to say that either you or

911
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:25,020
Denise did not frustrate the start

912
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:26,940
of the beginning of the Rockwood

913
00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:30,180
affordable housing trust fund is to deny

914
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,760
what actually happened and you were

915
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,339
pressured by social media to take a vote

916
00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:37,079
two weeks later don't don't do that

917
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:38,880
because you were you were pressured by

918
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,740
social media to take a vote two weeks

919
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:42,720
later and to activate the Rockport

920
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,060
affordable housing Trends try son after

921
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:46,859
two weeks before you had voted it down

922
00:39:46,859 --> 00:39:50,099
so please don't let don't let your words

923
00:39:50,099 --> 00:39:52,440
I won't let your words mask over the

924
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,900
fact that neither you nor Denise were in

925
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,579
favor of a Rockford affordable housing

926
00:39:56,579 --> 00:39:59,940
trust fund as was instituted by the town

927
00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:03,720
a town vote in 2017 and only activated

928
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,359
now in February of 2023.

929
00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:08,520
her I'm just gonna make one more comment

930
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,380
then we need to move on I've been on the

931
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:12,599
board of Selectmen for I think 17 years

932
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:17,460
social media has never ever as a has no

933
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:20,460
one else has ever influenced a vote or

934
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:23,339
any action I've taken and I can honestly

935
00:40:23,339 --> 00:40:25,980
say that and and I actually am offended

936
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:27,300
that you would think that I'm actually

937
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,339
not even sure why you would think that

938
00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:31,200
since you're not even on social media

939
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,859
but um we should take this for as always

940
00:40:34,859 --> 00:40:37,140
I would love to sit down again and have

941
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:39,420
coffee over this or anyone can reach out

942
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:40,740
to me

943
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:42,720
um I've had a lot of affordable housing

944
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,880
coffees lately and we were making good

945
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,400
progress so I look forward to keep keep

946
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,140
working

947
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:50,940
um let's move on because we have a big

948
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:53,930
agenda tonight

949
00:40:53,940 --> 00:41:00,420
is it Mr scharfstein Jerry scharstein today hi uh Jerry

950
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:03,180
scharstein to a twin light circle I'd

951
00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:06,000
like to acknowledge and thank uh select

952
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,599
person bracket for participating in a

953
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,000
school school committee meeting around a

954
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,460
month and a half ago and listening to uh

955
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:16,140
some Rockport students speaking about

956
00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,220
solar panels uh and I am looking forward

957
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:22,140
to listening to them this evening so

958
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:24,119
Ross I want to thank you for following

959
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:26,700
through and extending an invite to these

960
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,270
students

961
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,800
thanks so much we're excited to have

962
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,000
them they're getting to see like

963
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,520
democracy small town democracy in action

964
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,920
tonight right

965
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,339
government it's got its purest

966
00:41:41,339 --> 00:41:45,650
um anyone else for public comment

967
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:48,540
great I thought um since we do have some

968
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,000
students joining us this evening

969
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,859
um I was wondering if we if anyone would

970
00:41:52,859 --> 00:41:55,040
object if we moved them to the beginning

971
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,720
and then um and then do the did the two

972
00:41:57,720 --> 00:41:59,579
interviews is everyone okay with that

973
00:41:59,579 --> 00:42:02,460
okay Ross do you want to get an intro to

974
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:05,220
uh oh hold on we have one more oh

975
00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:09,530
Carol's here does does Carol have to go

976
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:12,960
okay oh so why don't we um and Ron is

977
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,940
here as well why don't we do Carol's

978
00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:16,680
interview and then

979
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,119
um Ron do you want to wait till after

980
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:23,760
the solar thing or you don't you're okay so let's do um Carol tarico's um

981
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,440
interview for historic commission and

982
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,720
then we'll then we'll jump to the solar

983
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,280
is that okay

984
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,579
great good evening Carol hi I'm so sorry

985
00:42:32,579 --> 00:42:34,800
I worry I'd love to have heard the

986
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,320
students speak but I need to run a niece

987
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,020
to the airport all good all good we

988
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:41,160
don't want her to miss her flight

989
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,320
exactly

990
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,940
um if you wouldn't mind just telling us

991
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:46,740
we've all we all received the nice

992
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:48,359
letter that you sent if you could just

993
00:42:48,359 --> 00:42:49,680
tell us a little bit about your

994
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,380
background and basically what leads you

995
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,020
to um want to give of your time

996
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,900
sure so it's Carol chericoa I live at 25

997
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,540
dock Square which most of you probably

998
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:03,180
know as four chimneys

999
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,300
um in the downtown historic district

1000
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,339
um I actually have a professional

1001
00:43:08,339 --> 00:43:10,140
background in historic preservation

1002
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:13,260
after college I went to BU and got a

1003
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:14,940
master's degree in historic preservation

1004
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,800
planning and worked for the Boston

1005
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,560
landmarks commission for about nine

1006
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,700
years

1007
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,099
um and the Boston landmarks commission

1008
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:25,140
includes all the sort of local historic

1009
00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:26,940
district commissions like Back Bay and

1010
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:29,220
Beacon Hill on the south end and so I'm

1011
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:30,960
pretty familiar with the concept of

1012
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,720
design review

1013
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,660
um during that time I went to law school

1014
00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:40,319
at night at Suffolk and um

1015
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:42,359
went into private practice for a number

1016
00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:46,319
of years in real estate law and in in

1017
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:49,800
the year 2000 I began working for the

1018
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,180
federal government for the general

1019
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:53,760
Services Administration and I'm a real

1020
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,420
estate lawyer for the GSA and one of my

1021
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:59,760
responsibilities is compliance with the

1022
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680
National Historic preservation act so

1023
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,020
although I'm still not directly in the

1024
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:06,960
preservation field I do work on

1025
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,599
preservation matters all the time my

1026
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,460
husband Joe and I moved to Rockport two

1027
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:14,280
years ago we've had

1028
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,000
um

1029
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,280
actually two hearings before the

1030
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,619
historical commission for 25 dogs square

1031
00:44:19,619 --> 00:44:22,400
and we had great experiences both times

1032
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,339
and most recently I was involved with

1033
00:44:26,339 --> 00:44:30,420
The UU on the application for solar

1034
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:34,079
panels on the cleave Street side of the

1035
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:36,480
building I was

1036
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,040
um I didn't know what to expect going

1037
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,900
into the hearing we spent a long time

1038
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:41,819
preparing we made sure that our

1039
00:44:41,819 --> 00:44:44,880
application met all the criteria and I

1040
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560
have to say the historical commission

1041
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,760
was fantastic they listened to our

1042
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,240
arguments understood that what we were

1043
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,280
proposing met the criteria and approve

1044
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,319
the application

1045
00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:01,260
um and so that you know was just another

1046
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:03,180
positive experience with the historical

1047
00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:04,859
commission

1048
00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:07,619
um after that hearing of vacancy arose

1049
00:45:07,619 --> 00:45:10,560
and several people reached out to me to

1050
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,319
see if I'd be interested in filling the

1051
00:45:13,319 --> 00:45:17,700
position and here I am mm-hmm

1052
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,680
thank you so much

1053
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,210
um questions from the board

1054
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,560
Denise so thank you thank you Carol for

1055
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,660
stepping up I think you'll be a

1056
00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:29,940
wonderful addition to the commission and

1057
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:32,400
uh is there any a particular uh project

1058
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,040
that you have some expertise on that you

1059
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,140
think that you might be in a benefit to

1060
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:38,700
the board

1061
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,099
I think one of the things that I would

1062
00:45:41,099 --> 00:45:43,560
love to see happen

1063
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,760
um is to educate uh District residents

1064
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,440
on why these districts exist it seems

1065
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,680
um there's not a lot of information that

1066
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,319
sort of readily accessible that says you

1067
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,240
know that the Broadway district is

1068
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,920
significant for this reason the Mount

1069
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,720
Pleasant district is significant for

1070
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,119
this reason here's some historical

1071
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,480
information about the you know about the

1072
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,460
development of the district

1073
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:14,940
um these are important architectural

1074
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:16,920
types that you'll find in the district

1075
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,560
so I feel like it would be great to

1076
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,900
educate the public

1077
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:22,760
um

1078
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,819
so that folks understand in advance of

1079
00:46:26,819 --> 00:46:29,220
submitting an application what is

1080
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:32,339
significant about their residence or the

1081
00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:34,500
building that they own

1082
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:36,240
wonderful

1083
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,560
great thank you

1084
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,619
great Denise did you yeah I I didn't

1085
00:46:40,619 --> 00:46:44,099
have a question I just wanted to

1086
00:46:44,099 --> 00:46:47,400
um comment that for such a small town we

1087
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,980
are incredibly lucky for the

1088
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:51,780
concentration of talent that we have

1089
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:54,060
here your background is just perfect

1090
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:56,339
Carol and um

1091
00:46:56,339 --> 00:46:59,460
we're so grateful that you're stepping

1092
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:02,220
forward to volunteer so thank you thank

1093
00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:04,380
you I'm looking forward to it one second

1094
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:05,640
then

1095
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,020
um her

1096
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:08,579
Carol welcome

1097
00:47:08,579 --> 00:47:10,680
um your background certainly seems as if

1098
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,380
it would be an asset to the time I'm

1099
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:16,020
glad to have you raise your hand and say

1100
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:17,400
that you're interested in the historic

1101
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,060
Commission I questioned with regard to

1102
00:47:20,060 --> 00:47:23,640
one point of that will continue to be a

1103
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,900
point of interest and concern to some

1104
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,760
how do you feel about replacing the

1105
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,000
single pane glass with insulated glass

1106
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,440
given the fact that we all need to save

1107
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,359
energy

1108
00:47:36,359 --> 00:47:39,180
so um those folks that are on the

1109
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:41,579
historic commission know that this is an

1110
00:47:41,579 --> 00:47:44,280
issue we've dealt with personally

1111
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,420
um

1112
00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:50,640
our house was built in 1806 and when we

1113
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,819
got it we had original Windows

1114
00:47:53,819 --> 00:47:57,180
um they were in horrible shape

1115
00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:04,740
um and we initially you know we sort of looked at all options

1116
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:06,720
um replacing with double pane windows

1117
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,260
versus restoring and

1118
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:12,480
um I've I felt

1119
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,180
um that I didn't want to be the one who

1120
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:18,180
was going to

1121
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:19,020
um

1122
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:23,099
you know toss 26 200 year old windows

1123
00:48:23,099 --> 00:48:25,440
like it just it felt wrong

1124
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,300
um and so we looked at other options and

1125
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,060
so what we've done is we have interior

1126
00:48:30,060 --> 00:48:33,599
storms and we had the windows restored

1127
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:38,160
by a company based in Hyde Park and

1128
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,260
um you're welcome to come by I'll show

1129
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,060
you our windows they're absolutely

1130
00:48:42,060 --> 00:48:43,740
spectacular

1131
00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:46,440
um you could never sort of get that same

1132
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,780
look both the glass and the sort of

1133
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:52,680
detail the like very the very delicate

1134
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,020
muntins and that sort of thing so so

1135
00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:58,319
we're super happy with our project

1136
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:00,300
um I think a single pane window with an

1137
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,460
interior storm is a great solution it

1138
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:04,619
was a great solution for us it's not

1139
00:49:04,619 --> 00:49:06,540
going to be the perfect solution for

1140
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:08,520
everyone and

1141
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,900
um there are going to be situations

1142
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,780
where you know historic Windows do need

1143
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:14,880
to be replaced

1144
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,920
um and as you know as you can tell by

1145
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,680
the fact that I was supporting the solar

1146
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,140
panel project on The UU that I'm also

1147
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:24,839
like super aware of environmental issues

1148
00:49:24,839 --> 00:49:28,920
and I think that the two can coexist

1149
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,300
thank you

1150
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:34,020
great thank you Ross thank you um hello

1151
00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:37,740
Carol um knowing the process and the

1152
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:39,599
criteria you need to meet four solar

1153
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:43,260
pianos and the new technology coming in

1154
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:45,180
and they're readily available to get

1155
00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:46,920
solar panels do you think it's time for

1156
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,720
their struggle committee to look at

1157
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,099
exempting solar panels in their

1158
00:49:50,099 --> 00:49:51,359
historical districts or do you think

1159
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:52,619
it's still

1160
00:49:52,619 --> 00:49:53,819
um good to have it go through the

1161
00:49:53,819 --> 00:49:56,220
application process knowing that I think

1162
00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:57,780
they're at three approved and two have

1163
00:49:57,780 --> 00:50:01,079
been denied so far historical districts

1164
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,420
I think it makes sense I mean we're such

1165
00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:05,339
a small community I think it makes sense

1166
00:50:05,339 --> 00:50:08,460
to go through the application process

1167
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:11,119
um some towns like p-town have actually

1168
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:15,000
Exempted solar as long as the

1169
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,280
application meets certain very strict

1170
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,079
criteria like you have to have a dark

1171
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,119
colored roof and the panels need to be

1172
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,700
all black non-glare

1173
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,500
um so those are the kind of things that

1174
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:29,040
Rockport does look at and consider

1175
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,500
um but I think I think it makes sense to

1176
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:34,440
keep the applications you know keep keep

1177
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,560
solar as part of the types of changes

1178
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,839
that we would review

1179
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:42,720
thank you great that's so helpful that

1180
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,400
was actually the question that I was

1181
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,099
interested in as well yeah um any more

1182
00:50:47,099 --> 00:50:49,140
questions from the board Carol do you

1183
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:51,000
have any questions for us

1184
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,940
I don't think so great yeah I think I

1185
00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:55,619
think you're a perfect fit between your

1186
00:50:55,619 --> 00:50:58,200
experience you also coincidentally

1187
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,359
bought one of my favorite historic homes

1188
00:51:00,359 --> 00:51:02,339
downtown

1189
00:51:02,339 --> 00:51:04,140
um but I think you will be such an asset

1190
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:06,480
to the commission and um I can't thank

1191
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,059
you enough for stepping forward and as

1192
00:51:09,059 --> 00:51:12,480
Denise said we are like we are just so

1193
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,839
like the amount of talent skill and

1194
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:17,280
talent we have on our volunteer

1195
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,440
committees just continues to blow me

1196
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,599
away so thank you so much for for

1197
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,180
stepping up

1198
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:26,099
um is there a motion

1199
00:51:26,099 --> 00:51:28,619
yes Madam chair I moved at the board

1200
00:51:28,619 --> 00:51:31,319
appoint Carol Trico to the historical

1201
00:51:31,319 --> 00:51:34,140
commission for a term to expire on June

1202
00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:37,260
30th 2026 subject to the board

1203
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:39,359
committees commissioned membership

1204
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:42,440
policies great is there a second

1205
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,819
great the motion has been made and

1206
00:51:44,819 --> 00:51:46,980
seconded any further discussion by the

1207
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:48,180
board

1208
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:51,540
hearing none uh selectman bracket

1209
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:53,220
aye slackman Murphy

1210
00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:56,160
all right select my Lilia all right

1211
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,280
select Mormon Donnelly I and select

1212
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,440
woman Wilkinson aye the motion carries

1213
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,780
unanimously thank you so much welcome to

1214
00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:07,140
the commission thank you thanks nice to

1215
00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:09,000
see you thank you safe driving to the

1216
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,650
airport awesome thank you great

1217
00:52:14,660 --> 00:52:16,619
now

1218
00:52:16,619 --> 00:52:20,640
um Ron you sure you're okay if we do the solar okay perfect so we'll we'll

1219
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,400
Swip skip around a bit do the student

1220
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,619
solar panels and then we'll move on to

1221
00:52:25,619 --> 00:52:27,300
Mr lebar's interview

1222
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:33,430
um you guys are talking about Ross

1223
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,720
give an introduction to how you ended up

1224
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,599
here and then we'll let you go so

1225
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,640
um it just happens to be that uh expect

1226
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,859
for uh suck my Wilkinson had a step out

1227
00:52:43,859 --> 00:52:45,359
for one meeting so I attended the school

1228
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:46,980
community meeting for her and it

1229
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:48,059
happened to be the meeting where they

1230
00:52:48,059 --> 00:52:50,400
were presenting the solar panel projects

1231
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,760
for the school and um you know I thought

1232
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,839
it would be interesting to have them

1233
00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:57,180
come to us and you know if we could have

1234
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:58,440
you know further down the line a little

1235
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,880
bit if we can help them push the project

1236
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,920
along and get the solar panels at the

1237
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,480
school I know we had issues and the

1238
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,800
first time the project came around but

1239
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,119
if we can see if there's anything

1240
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:07,140
different

1241
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:09,000
um this round we can get them going and

1242
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,040
I think I'll let them introduce

1243
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,660
themselves I do think Ken Park is

1244
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:13,859
missing that was one of the other

1245
00:53:13,859 --> 00:53:15,900
students but all that all that the three

1246
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:18,180
ladies introduce themselves great so why

1247
00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:19,619
don't you guys introduce yourself you

1248
00:53:19,619 --> 00:53:21,780
can just give us your names and what uh

1249
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:23,220
what grade you're in what grade you're

1250
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:25,020
going into I won't make you say your

1251
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:27,540
addresses and then um and then why don't

1252
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:28,619
you tell us a little bit about your

1253
00:53:28,619 --> 00:53:29,760
project

1254
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,460
okay I'm roomy Quorum and I'm going into

1255
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:35,099
my freshman year I'm Ava May mirrors and

1256
00:53:35,099 --> 00:53:38,220
I'm also a freshman I'm Lucy mywellski

1257
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:40,980
and I'm also going to freshman year so

1258
00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:43,680
this project just a little

1259
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,540
um history

1260
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:49,079
um just recently uh Civics has become a

1261
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,599
required class for Massachusetts 8th

1262
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:54,300
graders to take and as kind of like a

1263
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,640
final exam in that class you have to do

1264
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,140
a cap project

1265
00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:00,780
and that stands for civic action

1266
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:04,020
so we thought that for our project we

1267
00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:06,119
could try to figure out a way to get our

1268
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:08,579
school to kind of embrace more

1269
00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:12,720
environmental friendly energy options so

1270
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,880
through some research and help from our

1271
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
teachers we figured that solar panels

1272
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,920
would probably work best so now here we

1273
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,619
are we've continued doing research on

1274
00:54:22,619 --> 00:54:24,599
solar panels and how to kind of move it

1275
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:28,020
along but it really just started from a

1276
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:29,819
school project but now the year's over

1277
00:54:29,819 --> 00:54:32,640
so we have kind of all taken it as um

1278
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,800
like a personal project and we really

1279
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,079
all feel passionate about this

1280
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,020
and thank you for having us tonight yeah

1281
00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:42,480
thank you great so do you want to tell

1282
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,339
us a little bit about the project about

1283
00:54:44,339 --> 00:54:46,440
do you have like a PL like about the

1284
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,980
project so far like what yes

1285
00:54:48,980 --> 00:54:52,140
yeah we have a slideshow prepared that

1286
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:54,780
would be if that's okay we could show to

1287
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,300
you yeah sure do I have permission to

1288
00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:59,160
share it

1289
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,049
here let me try to share screen

1290
00:55:03,059 --> 00:55:06,000
where is that yes these kids are so

1291
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,740
technical no they're they're better

1292
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:09,720
they're like better and quicker than we

1293
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,410
are

1294
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:15,119
hands down hands down

1295
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,760
okay so can everyone see this did I do

1296
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,460
it right okay I did awesome

1297
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:21,800
okay okay

1298
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,839
so hello we are rising freshmen who

1299
00:55:24,839 --> 00:55:27,359
graduated from Rockport Schools and we

1300
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:29,579
are also grateful for this opportunity

1301
00:55:29,579 --> 00:55:32,160
and thank you all so much and Lucy man

1302
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,319
take it away

1303
00:55:33,319 --> 00:55:37,079
okay so just for some background

1304
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:40,380
information our mission is to decrease

1305
00:55:40,380 --> 00:55:42,839
the amount of CO2 produced by installing

1306
00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:45,000
solar panels at the Rockport School

1307
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,500
District

1308
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,059
um though this began as a school project

1309
00:55:48,059 --> 00:55:50,220
we quickly realized that this was a much

1310
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:52,319
more personal matter because the

1311
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,000
environment and it's like rapidly

1312
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,680
declining health is a matter that's

1313
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,420
greatly important to us especially

1314
00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,339
because we live in a Coastal Community

1315
00:55:59,339 --> 00:56:02,160
and we are happy and willing to fight

1316
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,260
for this no matter how long it takes and

1317
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:07,380
how hard it is episode

1318
00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:10,500
okay our progress so far so like I

1319
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,380
mentioned we started in civics class but

1320
00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:15,720
bringing it out to the community on May

1321
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,339
3rd we went to a school committee

1322
00:56:17,339 --> 00:56:19,920
meeting and presented to them

1323
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,500
and then on May 16th we met with Mr

1324
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:24,359
scharfstein and other members of the

1325
00:56:24,359 --> 00:56:27,000
Unitarian Universalist Society of

1326
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,460
Rockport and they provided us with a

1327
00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:31,740
huge amount of support and guidance

1328
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:34,200
and just a few days ago we joined a zoom

1329
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,819
meeting with the Interfaith climate

1330
00:56:35,819 --> 00:56:37,800
Justice group and presented our work so

1331
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200
far once again we received support and

1332
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,960
ideas to promote our work

1333
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,520
um right now we're working on drafting

1334
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,260
an article to the Gloucester Daily Times

1335
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:48,180
so we can get a greater area of

1336
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:51,359
interaction and also writing an article

1337
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:53,119
to the Cape Ann Climate Coalition

1338
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,380
monthly newsletter

1339
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:57,839
and we created an Instagram account to

1340
00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:01,020
hopefully reach some of our age audience

1341
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:03,180
so that we can publish our work and keep

1342
00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:05,099
the community updated and informed about

1343
00:57:05,099 --> 00:57:07,740
upcoming events and just information

1344
00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:09,359
about

1345
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,339
just about solar panels and renewable

1346
00:57:11,339 --> 00:57:15,170
energy

1347
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:17,160
okay so these are our plans for the

1348
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,599
future

1349
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:20,400
um so I think a big step would be

1350
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,200
getting like an estimate for the cost

1351
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,440
and the installation and how that would

1352
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,920
work and then so that's definitely like

1353
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,420
our main goal and then we're going to

1354
00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:32,640
promote it more via social media just to

1355
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,460
get the word out so people like know

1356
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,319
what's going on and they can be filled

1357
00:57:37,319 --> 00:57:38,880
in on like if there's being something

1358
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,099
posted or there's like another meeting

1359
00:57:41,099 --> 00:57:43,920
maybe they can like sit in on

1360
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,480
um we would like to contact Publishers

1361
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,420
to help our work gain recognition so

1362
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:50,099
that's why we're writing to the glossary

1363
00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:52,500
the Gloucester Daily Times Cape Ann

1364
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:55,920
Climate Coalition newsletter and we are

1365
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,599
going to

1366
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,940
um just like try and find other people

1367
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:02,280
that might be helpful or know something

1368
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,859
about how to get this project like

1369
00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:06,540
happening

1370
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:09,900
okay so some other research that we did

1371
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:10,559
um

1372
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:14,040
Hampshire college is in western Mass and

1373
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,319
they use electricity generated from

1374
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:19,440
solar panels at the RW Kern Center which

1375
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,660
is this picture here and that is an

1376
00:58:21,660 --> 00:58:24,359
all-electric building

1377
00:58:24,359 --> 00:58:26,700
um and then Hampshire College also uses

1378
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:28,859
a solar canopy the Hampshire College

1379
00:58:28,859 --> 00:58:33,000
farm and 19 Acres of solar fields

1380
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,619
um and then they have another building

1381
00:58:34,619 --> 00:58:36,720
called the Hitchcock center for the

1382
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,740
environment and that's another

1383
00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:39,900
all-electric building

1384
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,059
um they were the first school to go

1385
00:58:42,059 --> 00:58:44,520
completely renewable

1386
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,040
um so there's also quite a few schools

1387
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,720
around us

1388
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,900
um that have used some solar panels so

1389
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:54,799
Swampscott Medway Joyce Middle School

1390
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:58,859
Whitman Hanson Natick Taunton and UMass

1391
00:58:58,859 --> 00:59:02,640
Amherst in Boston University both signed

1392
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,520
this this like project and Bill that

1393
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,319
they're going to try to commit fully to

1394
00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:11,640
solar energy by 2040. so some bigger

1395
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,440
schools and universities are working to

1396
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,960
achieve this and more locally Manchester

1397
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,900
Essex as some of you may already know

1398
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,299
they use solar panels

1399
00:59:21,299 --> 00:59:25,140
so and then also how much energy we use

1400
00:59:25,140 --> 00:59:28,079
and how much that costs our school uses

1401
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,680
33 percent of the town's total energy

1402
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,619
and that's a lot that's a huge amount

1403
00:59:34,619 --> 00:59:36,859
and while we're using all that energy

1404
00:59:36,859 --> 00:59:40,020
we're we're contributing a lot of bad

1405
00:59:40,020 --> 00:59:42,180
stuff into the air to our Coastal

1406
00:59:42,180 --> 00:59:44,280
Community

1407
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,859
um and our school's budget isn't huge

1408
00:59:46,859 --> 00:59:49,500
and fuel takes a a big portion of that

1409
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:52,020
with solar energy we can greatly cut

1410
00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:53,220
that down

1411
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:54,420
and then

1412
00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:57,420
um solar panel prediction we got this

1413
00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:00,059
um graph that Rumi can tell you more

1414
01:00:00,059 --> 01:00:01,799
about okay

1415
01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:06,000
so my stepdad who got was in charge of

1416
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,559
like figuring out the layout of first

1417
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,440
solar panels for my house personally

1418
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,579
um has helped us here by trying to

1419
01:00:13,579 --> 01:00:16,319
figure out about like how many solar

1420
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,720
panels the middle school would need and

1421
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,059
this is how much that we could put on

1422
01:00:21,059 --> 01:00:22,440
the middle school and high school which

1423
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,420
is about enough to just power the middle

1424
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:27,359
school and we can always start off with

1425
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:30,059
less like I know we already have one or

1426
01:00:30,059 --> 01:00:32,760
do more in power both schools but this

1427
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,980
is just like a rough estimate and what

1428
01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:37,680
it would look like kind of also

1429
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,480
like getting our Middle School

1430
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,619
completely

1431
01:00:40,619 --> 01:00:43,140
um 100 powered by solar panels is like

1432
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:45,599
huge tasks and we understand if that's

1433
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,780
like unattainable at the like four years

1434
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:51,000
that we have left at the school but what

1435
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,440
we would really love to do is if we

1436
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,420
could just start off by getting the hot

1437
01:00:54,420 --> 01:00:56,819
water powered by solar panels I think

1438
01:00:56,819 --> 01:00:58,440
that would like

1439
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,619
help greatly and cut our costs by a lot

1440
01:01:01,619 --> 01:01:04,549
so

1441
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,140
okay why are school bits

1442
01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:09,900
so our school has an open flat roof with

1443
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,299
lots of sun exposure and this type of

1444
01:01:12,299 --> 01:01:15,240
roof is ideal is ideal for solar panels

1445
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,280
because it's where they can get the most

1446
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,599
done really

1447
01:01:18,599 --> 01:01:21,299
and we are also eligible for a lot of

1448
01:01:21,299 --> 01:01:23,460
Grants and donations because we are a

1449
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:26,760
school like a lot of non-profits and

1450
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,740
grants are

1451
01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:31,440
willing to help out schools more than

1452
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,599
like private buildings

1453
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,780
and Rockport Schools are not protected

1454
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,299
by the historical board so we wouldn't

1455
01:01:39,299 --> 01:01:41,520
really have to like get permission from

1456
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,920
the historical board to add solar panels

1457
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,540
to our school

1458
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:47,160
and

1459
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,619
um switching to renewable energy energy

1460
01:01:49,619 --> 01:01:52,140
sources like solar panels at a place

1461
01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:53,940
like our school would make a big

1462
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:55,859
positive impact on the community and

1463
01:01:55,859 --> 01:01:59,400
environment especially because just it

1464
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,140
uses so much of the town's electricity

1465
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:05,040
and so many people use energy from there

1466
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,400
and adding solar panels will also help

1467
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,799
the school financially because it will

1468
01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:13,140
lower utility costs and

1469
01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:15,180
probably eventually it will pay for

1470
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:16,920
itself because

1471
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,960
yeah we won't have to pay for it yeah

1472
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,819
utilities

1473
01:02:20,819 --> 01:02:24,059
okay so closing q a we have

1474
01:02:24,059 --> 01:02:26,760
um three quick questions for you

1475
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,099
um is this possible and what should our

1476
01:02:29,099 --> 01:02:31,440
next move be we have reached you guys

1477
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,400
and now we are working to Branch off so

1478
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,890
what should our next move be

1479
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,339
I don't know if chairperson's working

1480
01:02:41,339 --> 01:02:43,859
since there but I'll I'll come and if he

1481
01:02:43,859 --> 01:02:46,140
doesn't want to go ahead Ross

1482
01:02:46,140 --> 01:02:47,880
um so I would say

1483
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,980
um you know sit tight for now I'll you

1484
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:51,660
know tomorrow I'll go or this week I'll

1485
01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:53,640
go back to the going to the uh town hall

1486
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,740
and see what other options are and see

1487
01:02:55,740 --> 01:02:57,720
what options we have available

1488
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,640
um we have green Community task force we

1489
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,579
have DPW in general but

1490
01:03:02,579 --> 01:03:04,140
um we'll look at the grants that are

1491
01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:06,839
going to make it a lot a lot more viable

1492
01:03:06,839 --> 01:03:09,420
for the town so that will be our next I

1493
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:10,859
mean obviously any step you guys can

1494
01:03:10,859 --> 01:03:12,839
take without us is going to be great but

1495
01:03:12,839 --> 01:03:15,119
for us to get involved and see how help

1496
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,880
you move the project along we'll see

1497
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,140
what we can do and see if we can connect

1498
01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:21,540
you up with in the town or other people

1499
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:24,480
that offer grants

1500
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,819
um thank you yeah

1501
01:03:26,819 --> 01:03:29,099
um who do you recommend that we can talk

1502
01:03:29,099 --> 01:03:31,500
to for more information about costs

1503
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:36,530
grants and um like installation Etc

1504
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:38,339
being right here off the top of my head

1505
01:03:38,339 --> 01:03:40,500
I'd have to go with uh Jerry who've

1506
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,420
already spoke to

1507
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:43,920
um he's going to be able to let you know

1508
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,839
what the costs he went through he's also

1509
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:48,420
on the green commute task force and um

1510
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:52,559
if you can contact the former uh

1511
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:54,839
camera I think it was the Nathaniel that

1512
01:03:54,839 --> 01:03:57,599
had the last Grant at the school and see

1513
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,220
what he was looking at at that time so

1514
01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:01,260
we can get a a better estimate and oh

1515
01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:03,900
nothing yep obviously you know we had

1516
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:05,460
issues in the first one I mentioned that

1517
01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:07,079
at the school committee meeting but um

1518
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:08,640
you can get hopefully calls from them

1519
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,319
and obviously we'll be able to provide

1520
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:13,200
some information on that as well yeah it

1521
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,940
might also be helpful for you guys to

1522
01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:17,520
reach out to Manchester Essex or other

1523
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,339
schools and it would be interesting to

1524
01:04:20,339 --> 01:04:21,660
know if they were like student

1525
01:04:21,660 --> 01:04:25,260
initiatives like yours or you know who

1526
01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:27,059
kind of made it happen and maybe try to

1527
01:04:27,059 --> 01:04:28,680
talk maybe you know go and interview

1528
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,059
those people

1529
01:04:30,059 --> 01:04:33,059
and try to ask them you know schools

1530
01:04:33,059 --> 01:04:35,220
Town buildings are kind of a lot

1531
01:04:35,220 --> 01:04:37,559
different from people's houses

1532
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:40,740
um recently like on my house we actually

1533
01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:42,960
have solar for our hot water we don't

1534
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,960
yet have solar for our electricity but I

1535
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,660
recently got a quote and um I'd be happy

1536
01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:51,059
to connect you guys with the guy that

1537
01:04:51,059 --> 01:04:52,619
came and gave you know just gave me the

1538
01:04:52,619 --> 01:04:54,359
quote it was just a local Solar Company

1539
01:04:54,359 --> 01:04:56,400
so I would you know I think as much as

1540
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,079
you can learn and just as many people

1541
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:00,599
you can talk to would be great would be

1542
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:02,160
excellent you guys are off to an awesome

1543
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,940
start I will say that um this spring I

1544
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:08,040
was invited to the Civics kind of the

1545
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,740
Civics day and I saw you guys there and

1546
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:13,319
I got to hear about all like so many of

1547
01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:16,260
the projects and I was just like I had

1548
01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:18,480
no words for how cool and awesome all

1549
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,700
the projects are

1550
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:22,079
um other kids have reached out to us

1551
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:23,700
somebody just reached out who wants to

1552
01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:27,839
initiate student-led Beach cleanups and

1553
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:30,420
um you know lots of really cool stuff

1554
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:32,880
that you know you guys are where it's at

1555
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,680
let me tell you

1556
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,260
the future is the future is bright I

1557
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:39,599
literally left that and then I got like

1558
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,000
a whole huge envelope of thank you notes

1559
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,400
that were so thoughtful and well written

1560
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,240
I was like the future is bright we can feel good about what's coming

1561
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,299
next because not only are you guys like

1562
01:05:51,299 --> 01:05:52,980
smart and involved but you really care

1563
01:05:52,980 --> 01:05:55,559
about the town and the future so we're

1564
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:58,920
lucky to have you but I'll let any other

1565
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,720
select people have that have a comment

1566
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,540
make a comment obviously but um it may

1567
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:05,400
be best if kind of Ross is your

1568
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,040
connection to us and we can all kind of

1569
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,720
communicate with him but happy to help

1570
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,280
however we can

1571
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,859
awesome thank you very much anyone else

1572
01:06:13,859 --> 01:06:15,420
want to comment

1573
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:18,049
Paul

1574
01:06:18,059 --> 01:06:24,490
you're muted

1575
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:28,020
oh good can you hear me now yeah

1576
01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:30,000
perfect uh well uh ladies

1577
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,039
congratulations that's uh quite an

1578
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:34,020
undertaking that you're doing

1579
01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:37,140
um we just put solar in on our house

1580
01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:40,200
about a I'd say plus four months ago and

1581
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,960
it's wonderful and uh I think it's uh a

1582
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,400
great initiative

1583
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,559
um I was in Manchester when we put the

1584
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:48,420
working as a school administrator uh

1585
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:51,119
when we put the solar panels on so I can

1586
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,579
uh I'm happy to speak to you you can

1587
01:06:53,579 --> 01:06:55,859
reach me by email and my my cell phone

1588
01:06:55,859 --> 01:06:59,280
is on the website uh as well but uh

1589
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,380
happy to help in any way I can I know

1590
01:07:01,380 --> 01:07:04,079
Ross is uh going to help spearhead this

1591
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:05,940
with you so but if I can be of any

1592
01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:07,380
assistance

1593
01:07:07,380 --> 01:07:08,579
um have you spoke to anyone in the

1594
01:07:08,579 --> 01:07:11,700
school department about this

1595
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,460
um we haven't spoken much yet other than

1596
01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:16,859
the school committee that was our main

1597
01:07:16,859 --> 01:07:18,780
um

1598
01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:21,720
but um we're gonna try to reach out to

1599
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,760
some of the or one of the Rockport High

1600
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,220
School um science teachers that might be

1601
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:28,319
able to help us kind of more with that

1602
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:29,880
perspective

1603
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,039
is the Green Team still up and running

1604
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:34,579
at rhs

1605
01:07:34,579 --> 01:07:36,960
Middle School one

1606
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,140
um it didn't have many members this year

1607
01:07:39,140 --> 01:07:41,460
especially because

1608
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:42,119
um

1609
01:07:42,119 --> 01:07:44,220
you know Mr Alia wasn't putting it

1610
01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:46,500
anymore it was like a new person and so

1611
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:48,599
I think that was kind of like

1612
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,180
kind of failing this year but um I know

1613
01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:52,920
that there was a couple cat projects

1614
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,859
actually about helping that out so I

1615
01:07:55,859 --> 01:07:58,319
think it will be better next year and

1616
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,000
also I think in the high school there's

1617
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,839
more um involvement yeah

1618
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:05,760
well again I'm happy to help in any way

1619
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,740
I can and thank you for taking this

1620
01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:10,440
initiative on and uh I think it would be

1621
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,599
great for both schools to have solar and

1622
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:13,680
there's plenty there's not a lot of

1623
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,500
trees there so uh it would be really

1624
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:19,080
nice to have so very impressive and

1625
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,400
thank you again

1626
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,339
thank you thank you and ladies excellent

1627
01:08:23,339 --> 01:08:25,859
job with your presentation and the the

1628
01:08:25,859 --> 01:08:28,500
PowerPoint everything you guys we need

1629
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:30,719
one of you to help with our Tech from

1630
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:33,060
our no no offense Monty but the kids are

1631
01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:37,849
quicker than you are

1632
01:08:37,859 --> 01:08:39,679
um okay anything else

1633
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:43,739
future future select women yeah for sure

1634
01:08:43,739 --> 01:08:47,219
three of them her no I would like to

1635
01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:48,779
congratulate them as well I mean

1636
01:08:48,779 --> 01:08:50,819
obviously you've put a lot of work into

1637
01:08:50,819 --> 01:08:54,480
it you're only freshman you have three

1638
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,359
years for your freshman now yeah I

1639
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,640
assume uh ending this year so you've got

1640
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,620
three years in high school now too in a

1641
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:03,839
sense push this before we're incoming

1642
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:05,640
freshmen we're incoming person then you

1643
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,980
have four years that's even better but

1644
01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:12,000
uh by all means uh tap anyone who has

1645
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,400
expertise in town you already have a

1646
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,759
father there who is has expertise

1647
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:19,440
um go to your science teachers they'll

1648
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:20,400
help you

1649
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,060
and if there is a local

1650
01:09:23,060 --> 01:09:25,620
organization that installs solar panels

1651
01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:27,179
they would simply just come to talk with

1652
01:09:27,179 --> 01:09:30,480
you about the relative costs and you

1653
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:32,719
would then be able to do the math

1654
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,100
Associated what with what it would cost

1655
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,199
and then you come back to the town yeah

1656
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,719
and say to the town here's what we need

1657
01:09:39,719 --> 01:09:42,000
as far as total cost is concerned we'll

1658
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,100
do it over four years we'll divide it by

1659
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:46,140
four but anyway

1660
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:48,660
um stick with it you have a good start

1661
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:51,299
thank you thank you thanks

1662
01:09:51,299 --> 01:09:53,219
great

1663
01:09:53,219 --> 01:09:54,780
um thanks so much ladies we'll talk to

1664
01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:58,080
you soon thank you thank you have a

1665
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,920
great summer thank you

1666
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,420
Jerry for your support

1667
01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:07,020
yeah thank you thank you so much

1668
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:10,739
okay uh moving on next uh we have an

1669
01:10:10,739 --> 01:10:13,560
interview with Ron labarr for the uh

1670
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,020
finance committee welcome Ron thanks so

1671
01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:21,729
much for your patience

1672
01:10:21,739 --> 01:10:24,420
great thanks so much

1673
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:25,739
um why don't we do exactly what we did

1674
01:10:25,739 --> 01:10:27,480
with Carol do you mind just telling us a

1675
01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:29,640
bit about yourself how you ended up here

1676
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,679
I know you've been to some finance

1677
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:34,739
committee meetings right okay well

1678
01:10:34,739 --> 01:10:37,560
briefly uh so you have my resume but but

1679
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,140
basically uh my wife and I uh were

1680
01:10:40,140 --> 01:10:41,880
looking for a place to settle down when

1681
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,860
we were living in France and we ended up

1682
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:47,159
finding Rockport and we bought uh for

1683
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:49,500
our first home 18 years ago here so

1684
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:51,900
we've uh we've been in and out well we

1685
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:53,760
lived over overseas and then when I

1686
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,880
retired 11 years ago or so we started

1687
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,280
splitting our time 50 50 Rockport in

1688
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,140
Houston which is where we were living

1689
01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:03,780
before we went overseas

1690
01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:06,719
um we've now decided to sell Houston and

1691
01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:09,239
to live here full time uh and that

1692
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,699
changes the Dynamics of whether or not

1693
01:11:11,699 --> 01:11:14,159
we feel like we can and should

1694
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:16,500
participate in the town and try to help

1695
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,300
out so

1696
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:20,640
um the idea of the finance committee

1697
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,159
came up and I think it might be a good

1698
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:26,280
fit uh so that's why that's why now

1699
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,940
versus uh anytime in the last 11 years

1700
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:34,140
so uh I'm a chemical engineer by uh by

1701
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,719
education uh but I went over the

1702
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:39,600
business side early on and so I have

1703
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,860
about 35 years of business experience

1704
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:45,140
primarily

1705
01:11:45,140 --> 01:11:48,360
selling doing contract negotiations

1706
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,640
doing all the financing all the risk

1707
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,400
analysis to build plants that our

1708
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,500
company owned and operated literally

1709
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:57,900
everywhere in the world I I was for 10

1710
01:11:57,900 --> 01:11:59,280
years responsible for the global

1711
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,520
business unit for that so uh I have a

1712
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,880
lot of project operations

1713
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,460
um Finance experience that I hope I

1714
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,400
could contribute somehow some way to the

1715
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,560
town through the finance committee so

1716
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,780
that's my brief

1717
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:19,020
uh comments and uh any questions I'm

1718
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:20,820
open to of course but I want to say one

1719
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:24,659
good thing solar uh we're working on uh

1720
01:12:24,659 --> 01:12:27,179
bass Rocks Golf Club I'm head of a

1721
01:12:27,179 --> 01:12:29,159
subcommittee that is actually working on

1722
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:32,400
solar for bass rocks and we're now at

1723
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,140
the we've gone through the finance

1724
01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:36,120
committee we have approval so we're now

1725
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,239
doing final bids on uh our solar our

1726
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:40,860
solar system that we'd like to put in

1727
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:42,840
bass Rock so I think everybody's doing

1728
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,600
it so and I'm happy to help sounds like

1729
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,100
there's a lot of help already there but

1730
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:48,900
I'm happy to help if anybody wants to

1731
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:51,420
see what we're doing so

1732
01:12:51,420 --> 01:12:55,080
awesome fantastic thank you

1733
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,380
um questions from the board for Ron

1734
01:12:58,380 --> 01:12:59,520
pop

1735
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,340
yes

1736
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:04,440
thank you madam chair uh Ron how did you

1737
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:07,460
find out about the opening on on the uh

1738
01:13:07,460 --> 01:13:10,140
finance committee and uh what What's

1739
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:12,120
intriguing you about it other than you

1740
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,140
know you want to give back and uh why the finance committee and not

1741
01:13:16,140 --> 01:13:17,640
something else

1742
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,120
uh well actually uh is because I got

1743
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,760
approached by by my neighbor uh who

1744
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,760
who's on the finance committee uh so so

1745
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,820
we you know we we've talked about it and

1746
01:13:29,820 --> 01:13:31,320
then I've met some of the committee

1747
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,500
members and we've you know I'm open to

1748
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:36,300
anything I was open to anything it just

1749
01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:39,360
it was the the opportunity that arose

1750
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,520
that seemed to fit also fit my skill

1751
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,380
sets

1752
01:13:43,380 --> 01:13:46,080
go well well thank you for stepping

1753
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,120
forward I appreciate it we are we

1754
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,620
appreciate it I'm sure

1755
01:13:49,620 --> 01:13:52,739
some other questions

1756
01:13:52,739 --> 01:13:53,940
her

1757
01:13:53,940 --> 01:13:57,420
no I also welcome Iran

1758
01:13:57,420 --> 01:13:58,920
um stepping forward coming out of

1759
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,020
industry or you're not retired so you're

1760
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:02,640
not really out of Industry this is a

1761
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,000
secondary secondary hobby for you or is

1762
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,199
that not true

1763
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:11,159
uh no I'm I'm now finally finally out if

1764
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:13,260
you call considered bass Rock's golf

1765
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:16,159
club is my primary education

1766
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:19,739
I have a lot of time and uh given your

1767
01:14:19,739 --> 01:14:22,140
age you have a lot of energy potential

1768
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:25,620
energy to work uh in the sense of for

1769
01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:27,960
the benefit of the town and uh your

1770
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,820
broad experience certainly is something

1771
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:33,600
that I find impressive uh and uh

1772
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,219
hopefully you can pare down your

1773
01:14:35,219 --> 01:14:37,920
expectations but yet still be a driving

1774
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,080
force within Town

1775
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,179
um to accomplish what needs to be

1776
01:14:42,179 --> 01:14:43,320
accomplished over the coming years

1777
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,500
because there's a need for expertise and

1778
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:49,199
Technical way with regard to

1779
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:53,520
um as you say solo I'm using new

1780
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,400
techniques for use of energy creation of

1781
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,860
energy and use of energy in town all of

1782
01:14:58,860 --> 01:15:00,719
our buildings are different and so you

1783
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:04,080
have a problem if you will or a

1784
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,640
challenge if you will to try to

1785
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,500
make um soup out of this one way or

1786
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:12,780
another so thank you for your willing to

1787
01:15:12,780 --> 01:15:14,520
come forward

1788
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:15,960
well it's you know interesting best

1789
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,900
rocks is a kind of an example of a

1790
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:21,719
non-private site so we only invest in

1791
01:15:21,719 --> 01:15:25,320
golf course things but we we've looked

1792
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,380
at this opportunity and we sold it on uh

1793
01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:30,540
hey look we can be much greener than we

1794
01:15:30,540 --> 01:15:32,159
are today but there's a return on

1795
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:33,960
investment here I mean we're talking

1796
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,060
about a 12 percent

1797
01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:39,239
after tax return on investment uh over

1798
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:42,000
15 years it it makes sense economically

1799
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,820
as well as green so

1800
01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:47,520
um the club is in support of investing

1801
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,900
in something that's not a golf buggy or

1802
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,800
green or sand trap so so you know yeah

1803
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,420
idea of looking at the economics or

1804
01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:59,820
something uh I think isn't it can be

1805
01:15:59,820 --> 01:16:01,920
important not always but can be

1806
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,920
important

1807
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,900
Ron quick question the the number of

1808
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:08,460
panels that they're going to put on the

1809
01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:10,560
golf course this is random well they

1810
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,640
power the whole the whole building no no

1811
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,560
because we have limits on on what they

1812
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,540
call uh you know net metering so we can

1813
01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:22,500
only put in 25 uh kilowatts of panels

1814
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:24,060
which is one big Maintenance building

1815
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:26,280
and that's unfortunately only 12 percent

1816
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,900
of our power but it's a step in the

1817
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:28,880
right direction

1818
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,520
a maximum under state law to be exempt

1819
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,100
from net metering limits yeah got it so

1820
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:37,020
okay got it thanks yeah I know it's just

1821
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:38,520
interesting um Denise did you have a

1822
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,260
question yeah my question was whether

1823
01:16:40,260 --> 01:16:42,659
you were doing networking or um somehow

1824
01:16:42,659 --> 01:16:44,580
installing a battery system so you

1825
01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:45,960
answered that

1826
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:46,679
um

1827
01:16:46,679 --> 01:16:48,120
then we're doing net metering yeah

1828
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,679
because it makes so much sense in

1829
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:52,920
Massachusetts in in Texas for the board

1830
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,560
I do see that Dwight Valentine um

1831
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,000
chairman of the finance committee is

1832
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,100
here Dwight did you have anything to add

1833
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,600
to

1834
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,659
um well I I'd say that so hold on it's

1835
01:17:03,659 --> 01:17:04,980
like you're muted

1836
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:06,719
okay

1837
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:08,520
am I open now

1838
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,679
I think Sarah's behind the internet

1839
01:17:10,679 --> 01:17:13,920
hold on it seems like I'm muted I can

1840
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,340
hear you no you're not you're not muted

1841
01:17:16,340 --> 01:17:18,840
now you are

1842
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,600
all right well Well Ron has uh as you've

1843
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,699
said earlier Sarah Ron has been several

1844
01:17:23,699 --> 01:17:26,100
of our meetings we've had some uh close

1845
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,880
discussion about uh about process

1846
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:35,340
um about the differences between uh the broadly speaking the corporate

1847
01:17:35,340 --> 01:17:38,400
environment and uh and local governance

1848
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,940
uh but uh we're impressed with Ron's

1849
01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:45,360
ability to uh Focus articulate and be

1850
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,600
concise and we think his skill set uh is

1851
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,480
portable uh and uh will be a big

1852
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:57,410
contribution in our deliberations

1853
01:17:57,420 --> 01:17:59,120
also

1854
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,640
I'm heartened to hear Dwight that you

1855
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,820
kind of um oriented Ron to the

1856
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:07,380
difference between corporate and

1857
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:10,080
Municipal finance and

1858
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,659
um kind of how things work differently

1859
01:18:12,659 --> 01:18:15,060
in in the municipal world

1860
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:17,840
we want him to stick around

1861
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,340
that's a lot to learn we didn't want to

1862
01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:22,560
frighten them you know so we figured we

1863
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,260
might as well put it on the table and I

1864
01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:27,540
think you know I I think his uh I think

1865
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:30,420
he got a good um a good view well I know

1866
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:32,219
he's been meeting other meetings before

1867
01:18:32,219 --> 01:18:34,020
but I know he got a good view of things

1868
01:18:34,020 --> 01:18:35,699
this evening

1869
01:18:35,699 --> 01:18:37,560
um and I think the way that uh he

1870
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:42,420
addressed the issue of uh of uh transitioning skills from

1871
01:18:42,420 --> 01:18:45,300
one environment to another

1872
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:47,940
um is uh in the way that he explained it

1873
01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:49,679
is indicative of how he's going to

1874
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:55,370
approach the problems that we all face

1875
01:18:55,380 --> 01:18:57,199
right Rob

1876
01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,140
yes okay

1877
01:19:00,140 --> 01:19:02,940
yeah it looks like chairman Wilkinson

1878
01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:06,260
lost connection so if there's any other questions

1879
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:11,520
board if not I'll entertain a motion

1880
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:19,070
uh hold on

1881
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,330
um

1882
01:19:23,340 --> 01:19:24,780
okay

1883
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:27,000
um hold on one second

1884
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,020
I move that we nominate uh Ronald labar

1885
01:19:31,020 --> 01:19:33,060
to the finance committee for a term to

1886
01:19:33,060 --> 01:19:35,820
expire on Mitch

1887
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:39,080
June 30th 2024. thank you June 30 is

1888
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,840
2024. and one one edit um uh slogan

1889
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,120
Donnelly it should be a a point versus

1890
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,940
nominate uh

1891
01:19:47,940 --> 01:19:48,780
um

1892
01:19:48,780 --> 01:19:51,659
I move that we appoint Ronald labar to

1893
01:19:51,659 --> 01:19:53,880
the finance command ready for a term to

1894
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:58,040
expire on June 30th 2024.

1895
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,960
all right and I see Trayvon Wilkinson is

1896
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,219
here does she want to do the roll call

1897
01:20:02,219 --> 01:20:06,169
vote

1898
01:20:06,179 --> 01:20:08,219
she might still be that she might not be

1899
01:20:08,219 --> 01:20:09,179
at the computer

1900
01:20:09,179 --> 01:20:11,360
all right I'll do the roll call vote

1901
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:16,020
selectman Murphy I slept in lawyer all

1902
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:18,120
right select him and Donnelly

1903
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,159
aye and select one bracket votes eye

1904
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:22,020
motion carries

1905
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:24,840
and I'll give travel and Wilkinson a a

1906
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,300
moment to get back I think she's having

1907
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:28,800
trouble with her internet connection

1908
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,080
yeah she just joined back in though so I

1909
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:37,550
wanted to see if she

1910
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,500
she's unmuted no she's muted

1911
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:42,780
all right well I think the next is the

1912
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:44,940
uh consent agenda so we can move forward

1913
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:46,860
with that it's approval of minutes if

1914
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,380
any 2023 license and permits approvals

1915
01:20:49,380 --> 01:20:51,900
year-end transfers if any seasonal

1916
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:53,760
position appointment and acceptance of

1917
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,400
comfort dog program donations and I'll

1918
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,620
take a motion for that

1919
01:20:58,620 --> 01:21:01,739
yes I have a motion to make I move that

1920
01:21:01,739 --> 01:21:04,260
the board approve all non-held items on

1921
01:21:04,260 --> 01:21:07,380
the consent agenda agenda 30 seconds

1922
01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:09,300
I'll second that

1923
01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:13,440
all right roll problems segment Murphy

1924
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:16,860
hi is that familiar all right select one

1925
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:18,060
Donnelly

1926
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:20,340
aye and second bracket books I motion

1927
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:21,719
carries

1928
01:21:21,719 --> 01:21:25,440
next on the agenda I am going to ask the

1929
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:28,679
motion reader for the

1930
01:21:28,679 --> 01:21:30,900
three-year appointments to make them

1931
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:33,179
individually please not as one full

1932
01:21:33,179 --> 01:21:35,040
motion

1933
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,739
um we have the appointing for a

1934
01:21:37,739 --> 01:21:39,300
three-year positions on committees um

1935
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:40,679
it's the

1936
01:21:40,679 --> 01:21:42,239
select a person would like to make the

1937
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:43,140
motion

1938
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:46,020
starting with what is it affordable

1939
01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:47,699
housing Trust

1940
01:21:47,699 --> 01:21:49,920
Thor I move that the board make the

1941
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,719
following reappointments for terms

1942
01:21:51,719 --> 01:21:55,920
ending June 30 2026 all subject to the

1943
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,900
boards committees commissions membership

1944
01:21:57,900 --> 01:21:59,100
policy

1945
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:03,480
affordable housing trust Amy Beaton

1946
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:07,910
have a second

1947
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,659
session

1948
01:22:09,659 --> 01:22:12,300
roll call Vault selectman Murphy all

1949
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:15,540
right is that familiar all right second

1950
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:19,380
one Donald I and second bracket motion

1951
01:22:19,380 --> 01:22:21,659
carries

1952
01:22:21,659 --> 01:22:25,440
next up is for the Border health

1953
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:27,060
you want me to read the whole motion

1954
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:30,360
every time or just the names

1955
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,340
um I think you have to do the original

1956
01:22:32,340 --> 01:22:34,980
motion plus then the committee

1957
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:37,020
I move that the board make the following

1958
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,620
reappointments for terms ending June 30

1959
01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:42,960
2026 subject to the boards committees

1960
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,060
commissions membership policy Board of

1961
01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:48,780
Health Ron Newman Barbara McCarthy

1962
01:22:48,780 --> 01:23:02,350
wait a second all right any discussion

1963
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,040
motion carries

1964
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,600
all right next is the Conservation

1965
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:07,500
Commission

1966
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:09,600
I move that the board make the following

1967
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,860
reappointments for terms ending June 30

1968
01:23:12,860 --> 01:23:15,659
2026 all subject to the boards

1969
01:23:15,659 --> 01:23:17,159
committees commission's membership

1970
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:20,880
policy Conservation Commission Nathaniel

1971
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,179
milcahy Ashley shed further that both

1972
01:23:24,179 --> 01:23:25,800
are required to complete their

1973
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,840
Conservation Commission or certification

1974
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,980
by January 1st 2024.

1975
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:35,400
do I have a second

1976
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,320
all right any discussion

1977
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,199
if not I'll start so uh obviously the

1978
01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:42,120
Conservation Commission has been

1979
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,920
uh start up and running and they've been

1980
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,360
up they've been getting I think they're

1981
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,280
all caught up now but there's just some

1982
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,480
concerns I've been seeing in the meeting

1983
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,179
it feels sometimes they do go a little

1984
01:23:51,179 --> 01:23:53,460
beyond their

1985
01:23:53,460 --> 01:23:55,199
I can't say but they bring to try to

1986
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:56,100
bring in certain things that aren't

1987
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:57,659
within the wetlands act but the main

1988
01:23:57,659 --> 01:24:00,000
thing I want to focus on is the the

1989
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,239
treatment of the conservation agent I

1990
01:24:03,239 --> 01:24:05,280
feel that he gets

1991
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,679
um ridiculed too much in the meetings

1992
01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:10,260
publicly he also

1993
01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:12,900
because sometimes the device just goes

1994
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:15,000
you know it goes over and no one

1995
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,080
considers this advice they just

1996
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,000
disregard it he is the conservation

1997
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,360
agent and he has

1998
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,040
a lot of expertise in the area as as

1999
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,420
many you know he's been working on this

2000
01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:26,159
for many years

2001
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:27,960
um so I just want to point those out as

2002
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,060
you know why I feel

2003
01:24:30,060 --> 01:24:31,980
different our discussion on these

2004
01:24:31,980 --> 01:24:33,360
Concepts on the Conservation Commission

2005
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,280
I feel that we should be treating the

2006
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,380
agent with a little more respect and as

2007
01:24:37,380 --> 01:24:38,940
we move forward that's all I wanted to

2008
01:24:38,940 --> 01:24:41,330
say

2009
01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:43,380
um I guess I oh

2010
01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:46,020
if I may yep slick one down

2011
01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:49,560
um yeah I've been to every meeting and

2012
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,860
um I can I can see that members are

2013
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:54,719
really

2014
01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:58,140
um uh concerned and committed and worked

2015
01:24:58,140 --> 01:24:59,820
very hard it's a lot of work the

2016
01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:02,219
Conservation Commission it requires a

2017
01:25:02,219 --> 01:25:03,480
lot of time

2018
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:06,179
um and they have to do training and

2019
01:25:06,179 --> 01:25:09,239
um I think it takes a long time to

2020
01:25:09,239 --> 01:25:10,679
become

2021
01:25:10,679 --> 01:25:14,580
adapt at applying the laws and the

2022
01:25:14,580 --> 01:25:15,900
regulations

2023
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:19,440
um in addition to the bylaws and I would

2024
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:23,640
just underscore that John Lopez we're

2025
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,320
very lucky to have John as a

2026
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,380
conservation agent he has 30 years of

2027
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:33,120
experience in doing exactly this and I

2028
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,100
just would like to see the commission

2029
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:41,219
acknowledge his expertise and perhaps

2030
01:25:41,219 --> 01:25:44,940
seek his expertise and rely upon it

2031
01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:48,179
um more often than they do he

2032
01:25:48,179 --> 01:25:51,060
um as I said he's incredibly experienced

2033
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:54,780
more than anybody on the commission and

2034
01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:57,179
this is not to undercut the efforts or

2035
01:25:57,179 --> 01:25:58,860
the commitment of anyone on the

2036
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:01,500
commission just to say that his level of

2037
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:04,800
experience is unmatched and he really

2038
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,840
does know what he's doing

2039
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,340
um and so I just would like to see the

2040
01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:10,440
commission rely upon him

2041
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:13,739
more than they do now

2042
01:26:13,739 --> 01:26:17,100
you know the discussion is that familiar

2043
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:20,460
yes um I would like to Echo at the

2044
01:26:20,460 --> 01:26:23,040
slickman Donnelly as just like woman

2045
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,820
Donnelly has mentioned and that is also

2046
01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:30,179
been mentioned by uh slugman

2047
01:26:30,179 --> 01:26:32,280
uh brackets

2048
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,980
um there is a tendency to defer to the

2049
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:37,020
chair of the committee when they should

2050
01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:39,780
be deferring to the expertise that they

2051
01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:42,239
have in the form of the agents the agent

2052
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:45,600
does have the expertise that in fact the

2053
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,760
bulk of the expertise

2054
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,300
um for the decision-making process uh

2055
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:52,440
both

2056
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,120
um Mr mulchesi and

2057
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:55,620
[Music]

2058
01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:56,460
um

2059
01:26:56,460 --> 01:26:59,400
Ms shed should in fact recognize that

2060
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,840
fact and defer to the agent and not to

2061
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,000
the chair so I'm really just emphasizing

2062
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,360
what others have said already but

2063
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,020
um

2064
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:12,900
as can be seen right here they neither

2065
01:27:12,900 --> 01:27:14,400
of them are completed in their process

2066
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,960
of training let alone years have

2067
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,940
experienced so

2068
01:27:17,940 --> 01:27:22,020
um enough said I hope they follow these

2069
01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:25,440
um heartfelt thoughts uh we're now from

2070
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:29,280
three of the members of the select board

2071
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:30,540
all right

2072
01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:32,400
and with no more I'll do a roll call

2073
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:33,540
vote

2074
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:38,750
select member um Murphy bye

2075
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:39,900
all right

2076
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:41,699
stuck on Donnelly

2077
01:27:41,699 --> 01:27:44,040
aye and select my bracket votes name

2078
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,440
motion carries three to one

2079
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:51,360
next up is Council on agent

2080
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,639
I move that the board make the following

2081
01:27:53,639 --> 01:27:56,280
reappointments for the terms ending June

2082
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,639
30th 2026 all subject to the board's

2083
01:27:59,639 --> 01:28:01,760
committees commissions membership policy

2084
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,100
Council on Aging Shirley Conway Nancy

2085
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:07,500
Pitman Jennifer Perry

2086
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:10,560
do I have a second

2087
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,560
all right any discussion here

2088
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,800
seeing none roll call vote selectman

2089
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,090
Murphy

2090
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,590
all right

2091
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,460
Wilkinson did you hear the motion uh I

2092
01:28:26,460 --> 01:28:29,159
did I but you finished this round stuff

2093
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:30,679
thanks

2094
01:28:30,679 --> 01:28:34,620
motion carries all right next up is

2095
01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:36,480
cultural Council

2096
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:39,900
I move that the board make the following

2097
01:28:39,900 --> 01:28:42,659
of reappointments for terms ending June

2098
01:28:42,659 --> 01:28:45,840
30 2026 all subject to the board's

2099
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,179
committees commission's membership

2100
01:28:47,179 --> 01:28:50,520
policy cultural Council Sue Ellen

2101
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,350
wedmore William Waller

2102
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,500
all right

2103
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:57,300
roll call vote if there's no discussion

2104
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:01,760
seeing none selected immersion bye

2105
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:06,300
Wilkinson hi select Amelia all right and

2106
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:07,980
select woman Donnelly

2107
01:29:07,980 --> 01:29:09,840
aye respect my bracket belts eye motion

2108
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,440
carries next up is finance committee I

2109
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,060
move that the board make the following

2110
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:17,540
reappointments for terms ending June 30

2111
01:29:17,540 --> 01:29:20,580
2026 all subject to the board's

2112
01:29:20,580 --> 01:29:21,840
committees commission's membership

2113
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,179
policy finance committee Dwight

2114
01:29:24,179 --> 01:29:27,179
Valentine Heath Ritchie and do I have a

2115
01:29:27,179 --> 01:29:30,900
second I'll second up any discussion

2116
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:33,719
roll call vote select one Wilkinson

2117
01:29:33,719 --> 01:29:35,940
aye slackman Murphy

2118
01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:36,920
aye

2119
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,960
all right

2120
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,239
hi and Stefan Brackett votes eye motion

2121
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,280
carries next step is historical

2122
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,600
Commission

2123
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,760
I move that the board make the following

2124
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,040
reappointments for terms ending June 30

2125
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,920
2026 all subject to the bores

2126
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,360
committee's commission's membership

2127
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:55,679
policy

2128
01:29:55,679 --> 01:29:59,460
uh historical commission Ken Kaiser

2129
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:01,980
do I have a second second

2130
01:30:01,980 --> 01:30:03,780
any discussion

2131
01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:06,420
roll call vote select one of Wilkinson

2132
01:30:06,420 --> 01:30:09,420
hi selectman Murphy

2133
01:30:09,420 --> 01:30:12,060
aye second Amelia hi Stephanie

2134
01:30:12,060 --> 01:30:15,120
mcdonnelly hi I'm stuck on bracket votes

2135
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,639
eye motion carries

2136
01:30:17,639 --> 01:30:21,840
next uh is right away committee I move

2137
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,159
that the board make the following

2138
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:25,460
reappointments for terms ending June 30

2139
01:30:25,460 --> 01:30:28,440
2026 all subject to the awards

2140
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:30,600
committees commissions membership policy

2141
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,900
historical commission Ken Kaiser rights

2142
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:35,940
away

2143
01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:37,980
oh I'm sorry

2144
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:40,500
rights of way Monica Lawton Teresa

2145
01:30:40,500 --> 01:30:43,340
rizzolo do I have a second second second

2146
01:30:43,340 --> 01:30:48,010
all right any discussion Murphy

2147
01:30:48,010 --> 01:30:59,470
[Music]

2148
01:30:59,480 --> 01:31:02,159
and last for this one is Board of

2149
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:05,219
registers I move that the board make the

2150
01:31:05,219 --> 01:31:07,320
following reappointments for terms

2151
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,860
ending June 30 2026 all subject to the

2152
01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:12,060
board's committees commission's

2153
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:14,639
membership policy Board of registrars

2154
01:31:14,639 --> 01:31:16,920
Maureen duanel

2155
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,820
right do I have a second yes second any

2156
01:31:20,820 --> 01:31:22,980
discussion

2157
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:26,580
roll call votes like Lauren Wilkinson hi

2158
01:31:26,580 --> 01:31:32,330
it's like man Murphy

2159
01:31:32,340 --> 01:31:35,940
all right select woman Donnelly hi and

2160
01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:37,980
selectman bracket billzai motion carries

2161
01:31:37,980 --> 01:31:40,320
and I think you're up I'm sure everyone

2162
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,219
Will consent for the next part great

2163
01:31:44,219 --> 01:31:47,040
um I apologize my audio froze so I could

2164
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,020
see everybody talking but I couldn't so

2165
01:31:49,020 --> 01:31:52,620
I had to completely restart my computer

2166
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:54,960
um okay first we are on the second

2167
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,480
motion of one year appointments

2168
01:31:57,480 --> 01:32:01,080
and Lilia has this hand up thanks like

2169
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:02,219
melilia

2170
01:32:02,219 --> 01:32:04,199
yes I'd like to make a recommendation

2171
01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:07,380
that we reappoint the remaining

2172
01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:11,209
individuals in Black vote

2173
01:32:11,219 --> 01:32:13,380
yes that's how it would be if there's no

2174
01:32:13,380 --> 01:32:16,990
uh objections

2175
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,739
objection all right that was my plan I

2176
01:32:19,739 --> 01:32:20,940
just obviously wanted to have a

2177
01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:22,199
discussion for the three-year

2178
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:23,580
appointments so that's why I was a

2179
01:32:23,580 --> 01:32:25,920
that's why I objected to those ones but

2180
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,420
seeing there's no objection I'll make a

2181
01:32:27,420 --> 01:32:29,780
motion if you're ready Mr um

2182
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:33,060
yeah go ahead I move that the board make

2183
01:32:33,060 --> 01:32:35,040
the following reappointments for terms

2184
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,340
ending June 30th 2024 also Victor boards

2185
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,159
committees commission membership policy

2186
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:43,980
historical commission alternate Paul

2187
01:32:43,980 --> 01:32:45,719
Woodbury

2188
01:32:45,719 --> 01:32:48,960
map C representative Tom mikas action

2189
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,420
representative Roger Lesh Board of fire

2190
01:32:51,420 --> 01:32:54,000
Engineers Mark Monson Douglas Anderson

2191
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,280
Nathan Ives DPW facility building

2192
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,820
committee Monica lime Angel Soul Ruth

2193
01:32:59,820 --> 01:33:01,860
George Elder Affair coordinator Mary

2194
01:33:01,860 --> 01:33:04,080
Fallon the Emergency Management director

2195
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,060
John Harvard

2196
01:33:06,060 --> 01:33:08,820
forest fire Warden Michael frontero

2197
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,920
Granite prayer committee John Thompson

2198
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,580
George katropolis Kathy Carson Michael

2199
01:33:14,580 --> 01:33:16,860
Tupper Greg morale

2200
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:19,380
Memorial Day Parade committee Darlene

2201
01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:22,860
trumbor Kendra Daigle Gail ziemann

2202
01:33:22,860 --> 01:33:25,980
elvera fuccini Millbrook medical

2203
01:33:25,980 --> 01:33:29,340
committee Laura Holloway Hallowell

2204
01:33:29,340 --> 01:33:32,280
Dara Cole Dwight Valentine Samuel

2205
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,540
Colborne Richard

2206
01:33:35,540 --> 01:33:39,000
Ellen Lincolnton open space and

2207
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,159
Recreation committee

2208
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:43,560
Lawrence Neal Stephanie Cunningham

2209
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,960
Samuel Cunningham Thatcher and

2210
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,600
straightsmith Island Town committee

2211
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,719
Sydney webmore Michael crashini Patty

2212
01:33:51,719 --> 01:33:54,239
wigman Gail ziemann Robert Krause

2213
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,420
Richard Morris Paul Cena

2214
01:33:57,420 --> 01:34:01,980
George Langer Lee Mar Peter Haskell Town

2215
01:34:01,980 --> 01:34:04,620
art committee Dorothy Marshall Rosemary

2216
01:34:04,620 --> 01:34:07,080
perella Monica Lawton

2217
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,159
Karen Berger Ryan McMullen

2218
01:34:11,159 --> 01:34:12,960
traffic and parking committee James

2219
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,980
igoni Nancy Kearns zoning board of

2220
01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:20,100
appeals associate Richard York Aaron

2221
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:23,880
O'Connell Laura Nielsen and did I miss

2222
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:24,719
him

2223
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:27,080
nope that's it

2224
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,480
motion has been made is there a second

2225
01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:32,400
I'll second okay motion has been made

2226
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,400
and seconded any further discussion

2227
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,520
caring none uh selectman bracket

2228
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,600
aye suckman Lilia hi selectman Murphy

2229
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,380
hi it's like a woman Donnelly I and

2230
01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:48,360
select woman Wilkinson aye the motion

2231
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,780
carries and um if if frost didn't say it

2232
01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:53,520
at the beginning just an enormous thanks

2233
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,639
to everyone who steps up and um their

2234
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:58,860
time in this town could not run without

2235
01:34:58,860 --> 01:35:02,159
all of you so thank you so much

2236
01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:05,040
great um moving on we have consider

2237
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,380
approval of the Unitarian Universalist

2238
01:35:07,380 --> 01:35:11,940
Church Thrift Store off-premises sign

2239
01:35:11,940 --> 01:35:16,139
um someone here oh there you go hi is

2240
01:35:16,139 --> 01:35:17,880
that Susan Moran I'm gonna put my

2241
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,980
glasses on

2242
01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:21,780
great good evening thanks for your

2243
01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:24,239
patience tonight

2244
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:29,570
oh she's muted Monty

2245
01:35:29,580 --> 01:35:34,080
it says uu Society of Rockport yeah

2246
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,060
there you go you should be good now hi

2247
01:35:36,060 --> 01:35:39,000
there thank you thank you so much we we

2248
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,340
didn't know that we needed a permit so

2249
01:35:41,340 --> 01:35:43,739
that that's my first apology

2250
01:35:43,739 --> 01:35:47,159
and um secondly I don't know why someone

2251
01:35:47,159 --> 01:35:49,380
put it in the crosswalk I promise that

2252
01:35:49,380 --> 01:35:51,659
won't happen again

2253
01:35:51,659 --> 01:35:53,280
brief into the point

2254
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:57,239
[Laughter]

2255
01:35:57,239 --> 01:36:03,350
um any comments questions from the board

2256
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,600
no is there a motion I'm I'm personally

2257
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,219
fine with the designs it doesn't go in

2258
01:36:08,219 --> 01:36:09,540
the crosswalk

2259
01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:12,960
all right or obstruct the road obviously

2260
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,139
yeah no no we're trying not to break any

2261
01:36:16,139 --> 01:36:16,740
laws

2262
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:20,280
[Laughter]

2263
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,040
um is there a motion yes uh Madam

2264
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,719
chairwoman I I moved at the board

2265
01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:28,020
approved the off-premise sign permit for

2266
01:36:28,020 --> 01:36:31,080
the universe Unitarian universal Church

2267
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,620
Thrift uh store as submitted on the

2268
01:36:34,620 --> 01:36:38,100
permit application with requirements uh

2269
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:41,100
that it is not to be placed so as to

2270
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,860
impede vehicles or pedestrian progestins

2271
01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:47,580
or associated associated lines of sight

2272
01:36:47,580 --> 01:36:50,239
great is there a second

2273
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:52,560
motion has been made and seconded

2274
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,960
further discussion from the board

2275
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,840
so

2276
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,380
all good okay all righty thank you so

2277
01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:03,420
much hold on hold on we haven't voted

2278
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:05,420
yet

2279
01:37:05,420 --> 01:37:08,060
this is the fun part

2280
01:37:08,060 --> 01:37:10,920
this is where yeah this is where you

2281
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,900
really hold your you know

2282
01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:15,380
um okay select my bracket all right

2283
01:37:15,380 --> 01:37:17,639
selectman Murphy

2284
01:37:17,639 --> 01:37:21,300
hi this is like Memorial hi select

2285
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:24,840
moment Donnelly I select woman Wilkinson

2286
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,739
aye get that thing back out there

2287
01:37:28,739 --> 01:37:32,239
thank you so much nice to see you

2288
01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:35,460
uh okay moving on board of segment Town

2289
01:37:35,460 --> 01:37:39,659
Administrator updates Finance update

2290
01:37:39,659 --> 01:37:41,460
Mitch

2291
01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:42,960
thank you madam chair

2292
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,659
um fiscal year ends this Friday we are

2293
01:37:45,659 --> 01:37:47,760
diligently plugging away at it

2294
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,380
um most of the finance staff is still

2295
01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:51,239
here in the building now uh plugging

2296
01:37:51,239 --> 01:37:52,860
away trying to make sure that everything

2297
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:55,440
is squared away for the end of year

2298
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:57,900
we've been heavily focused on that

2299
01:37:57,900 --> 01:37:59,040
um for the last couple of weeks and

2300
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,780
we'll continue to be as we wrap up over

2301
01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:03,780
the next two weeks and uh next week when

2302
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:06,600
we start up the new fiscal year so a lot

2303
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,300
of time and attention focus to that and

2304
01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:10,620
will continue to do so over the next

2305
01:38:10,620 --> 01:38:12,360
couple of weeks to ensure that uh

2306
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,280
everything wraps up smoothly as it has

2307
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,139
in previous years

2308
01:38:16,139 --> 01:38:18,120
where we are diligently working on that

2309
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,179
uh DPW and those who are responsible for

2310
01:38:21,179 --> 01:38:24,179
capital projects are preparing for their

2311
01:38:24,179 --> 01:38:26,100
um their kickoffs next week many of them

2312
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,840
have already lined up contracts

2313
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,360
agreements documents plans that they

2314
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,699
need to to get going so we are uh

2315
01:38:32,699 --> 01:38:35,520
anxiously looking forward to uh to those

2316
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,440
uh starting off next week as well as uh

2317
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,600
fresh budget numbers uh for all the

2318
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,639
Departments

2319
01:38:41,639 --> 01:38:42,300
um

2320
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:44,400
that is pretty much where we are in the

2321
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,139
finance end right now it's it's all

2322
01:38:46,139 --> 01:38:48,480
focused on on year-end clothes to make

2323
01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:50,400
sure that we continue to be in good

2324
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,980
shape and then next week um uh starting

2325
01:38:52,980 --> 01:38:54,300
out the new fiscal year making sure

2326
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:55,739
everything carries over as it needs to

2327
01:38:55,739 --> 01:38:59,750
and things of that nature

2328
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,159
great thanks so much Mitch

2329
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,560
um any updates from board members

2330
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,380
I do Madam chair I am as the board is

2331
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:09,060
aware I did send a letter to all them

2332
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:10,739
for review

2333
01:39:10,739 --> 01:39:13,020
um if Town Administrator is able to pull

2334
01:39:13,020 --> 01:39:15,840
that up I would like him to do so

2335
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:17,580
um if there's any edits or

2336
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:20,639
advisors or if any if anyone supports it

2337
01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:22,080
but I've already made a couple edits

2338
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,420
myself when Mitch brings it up all that

2339
01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:26,280
everyone know yeah

2340
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,100
so Ross I guess I guess my comment I

2341
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,120
emailed you but you might not have

2342
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,400
gotten it I guess my comment is I'm

2343
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,400
happy for us to discuss I think we need

2344
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,159
to discuss Town composting I'm

2345
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:40,380
comfortable like telling an organization

2346
01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:42,360
that they have to compost

2347
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,860
privately

2348
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:47,340
well I I'm just well to my point as as

2349
01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:49,620
I've many of you know we already tell

2350
01:39:49,620 --> 01:39:51,420
businesses and tell themselves we do

2351
01:39:51,420 --> 01:39:53,520
have a plastic pile one place they do

2352
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:54,960
have a private

2353
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,420
um trash disposing company so they could

2354
01:39:57,420 --> 01:40:00,000
as many businesses do have do have a

2355
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,679
composting company that does lower the

2356
01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:04,620
price of the overall weight of

2357
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:07,080
um of the cost for their monthly bills

2358
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,300
and I've changed my letter to just say

2359
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:11,400
please consider and stuff like that

2360
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,159
instead of urging them or telling them

2361
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:15,480
to do it so it's not really a tell it's

2362
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:18,480
more of an Ask um as as I may have

2363
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:20,219
mentioned in the email myself and Mr

2364
01:40:20,219 --> 01:40:22,320
Murphy when we were campaigning these

2365
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,139
were a big request we got from many of

2366
01:40:25,139 --> 01:40:26,219
the residents that said they weren't

2367
01:40:26,219 --> 01:40:28,980
being heard from the company themselves

2368
01:40:28,980 --> 01:40:31,320
that when they're asking their their

2369
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,300
property manager at those facilities

2370
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:34,739
they weren't really it wasn't getting

2371
01:40:34,739 --> 01:40:36,120
through to them and they weren't getting

2372
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,000
the composting they're asking for

2373
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,639
so that's the only reason I thought so I

2374
01:40:41,639 --> 01:40:44,100
would step in and request it from yeah

2375
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:47,400
I'm just not sure if that's total I'm I

2376
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,780
totally get it 100 I'm just not sure if

2377
01:40:51,780 --> 01:40:53,340
it's appropriate if it's like an

2378
01:40:53,340 --> 01:40:55,500
appropriate place for us to step in like

2379
01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:57,480
with a I don't know I'm just I just

2380
01:40:57,480 --> 01:40:59,280
haven't you you just sent it to us right

2381
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:00,659
before the meeting so I just haven't

2382
01:41:00,659 --> 01:41:02,520
like totally thought it through yeah

2383
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,860
just the best way to like you know would

2384
01:41:04,860 --> 01:41:07,139
it be better to have Harbor Light into

2385
01:41:07,139 --> 01:41:09,360
you know to invite Andrew into a meeting

2386
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,580
and talk to him about it I mean that

2387
01:41:11,580 --> 01:41:12,719
would be great too but that would

2388
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:15,000
require us to do a lot more research on

2389
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,060
the matter opposed to him being able to

2390
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:19,920
We Can't recommend companies obviously

2391
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,239
there's very well-known companies around

2392
01:41:21,239 --> 01:41:23,880
here that he could easily contact

2393
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,239
um I I'm just looking forward I I here I

2394
01:41:27,239 --> 01:41:28,620
just want the board support to sign it

2395
01:41:28,620 --> 01:41:30,960
either way I will be reaching out to ask

2396
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,639
him to do it as a residence did request

2397
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:34,800
that from me so I was just hoping to get

2398
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,380
the board support on the matter as well

2399
01:41:37,380 --> 01:41:38,880
yeah

2400
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,900
um well go ahead Denise yeah I mean I

2401
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:44,820
obviously support composting I've been

2402
01:41:44,820 --> 01:41:47,880
using Black Earth for years

2403
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,360
um but I would rather have us have a

2404
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,340
broader discussion with the DPW

2405
01:41:53,340 --> 01:41:56,820
Commissioners about offering town wide

2406
01:41:56,820 --> 01:41:59,159
composting

2407
01:41:59,159 --> 01:42:01,020
um and then I think we'd be in a better

2408
01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:03,380
position to

2409
01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:06,360
request an organization like Harbor life

2410
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,420
to do the same

2411
01:42:08,420 --> 01:42:10,199
that just

2412
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:12,260
yes

2413
01:42:12,260 --> 01:42:14,520
again on the matter it's just now they

2414
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,500
have a third property coming up that

2415
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:18,179
they're going to be managing so we're

2416
01:42:18,179 --> 01:42:20,940
able to start the process now and as I

2417
01:42:20,940 --> 01:42:23,040
mentioned they don't use the towns

2418
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,320
transfer station they do have I believe

2419
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,480
it's Health set pickup there that fast

2420
01:42:27,480 --> 01:42:29,219
if you have they do have their own

2421
01:42:29,219 --> 01:42:30,659
garbage so they're not going to be using

2422
01:42:30,659 --> 01:42:33,480
the town's composting regardless and the

2423
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:35,940
process for us will be a lot longer to

2424
01:42:35,940 --> 01:42:38,040
get town-wide composting as you know we

2425
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,199
did pass at the recent town meeting to

2426
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:42,239
have the transfer station reevaluated

2427
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:45,119
for safety measures and other measures

2428
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:47,040
but composting wasn't even mentioned in

2429
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,239
that obviously that's something I want

2430
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:49,800
to mention to the DPW when the time

2431
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,199
comes but this is a

2432
01:42:52,199 --> 01:42:55,739
relatively to me it's a small uh ask for

2433
01:42:55,739 --> 01:42:59,159
a company to go to composting as I do

2434
01:42:59,159 --> 01:43:01,560
know it does lower costs overall as you

2435
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,360
food waste is a

2436
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,179
big weight component to trash pickup

2437
01:43:06,179 --> 01:43:07,860
when it comes time

2438
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:11,280
so yeah so I guess my I guess what I'm

2439
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,980
thinking is I'm just not sure it's like

2440
01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:17,520
appropriate or legal for us to

2441
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,679
tell them to do that I'm honestly we're

2442
01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:21,600
just asking that's all I'm not telling

2443
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,520
them they have to I'm not you know this

2444
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,560
is coming from this is coming from our

2445
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,540
residents that aren't getting heard from

2446
01:43:27,540 --> 01:43:29,400
the property managements and I mean if

2447
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,199
you want to call on Andrew for that I

2448
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:32,400
would you know those are the points I'd

2449
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:33,900
bring up to him that

2450
01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:35,520
his employee isn't getting the message

2451
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:39,300
across to him or I mean you know frankly

2452
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:41,880
I may be more comfortable doing that or

2453
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,940
one of us reaching out to him just so it

2454
01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:47,699
doesn't look like it's a you know

2455
01:43:47,699 --> 01:43:50,400
I feel like we I don't know I'm just not

2456
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,260
totally come I feel like I'd be better

2457
01:43:52,260 --> 01:43:54,960
off with that and saying listen you know

2458
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,540
we have residents in one property you're

2459
01:43:57,540 --> 01:44:00,000
you know you're you're opening up a

2460
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,320
third property like like

2461
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,760
as a pre as a business owner as many

2462
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,800
people know I'll explain on the matter a

2463
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,080
few years ago you asked all Town

2464
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,360
businesses that had take out to you

2465
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:13,679
record you required us you didn't even

2466
01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:15,480
ask us you would quiet us to have a

2467
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:17,580
trash barrel outside of our businesses

2468
01:44:17,580 --> 01:44:19,380
so that's you know that's that's more

2469
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:21,420
strict than just requesting that they

2470
01:44:21,420 --> 01:44:23,460
have composting in their facility it may

2471
01:44:23,460 --> 01:44:24,480
not have came from the Board of Health

2472
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:26,100
but it did come from I mean the Border

2473
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,239
selecting but it did come from the Board

2474
01:44:27,239 --> 01:44:29,340
of Health yeah you guys didn't have to

2475
01:44:29,340 --> 01:44:31,619
pay for the trash to be removed from the

2476
01:44:31,619 --> 01:44:34,920
well it was our Barrel I had I paid 300

2477
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,900
for a barrel then I got turned around

2478
01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:38,580
until the town said you already have a

2479
01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:39,600
barrel roll up front from the town you

2480
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,040
don't have to worry about it

2481
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,260
so I mean I'm just saying it was a

2482
01:44:43,260 --> 01:44:45,179
requirement to businesses and at the

2483
01:44:45,179 --> 01:44:46,739
time I got many complaints from the

2484
01:44:46,739 --> 01:44:48,659
business right but it was for all but it

2485
01:44:48,659 --> 01:44:50,639
was for all doubt like I guess what I'm

2486
01:44:50,639 --> 01:44:53,159
feeling uncomfortable about is like

2487
01:44:53,159 --> 01:44:55,260
singling out Harbor Light I feel like

2488
01:44:55,260 --> 01:44:57,719
it's I would rather find ways to

2489
01:44:57,719 --> 01:45:00,600
encourage to encourage composting and

2490
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,420
like how you know hey Andrew like what

2491
01:45:03,420 --> 01:45:04,619
would you know

2492
01:45:04,619 --> 01:45:07,260
I'm just feeling I don't know it looks

2493
01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:08,820
like it's coming at it at a negative way

2494
01:45:08,820 --> 01:45:10,980
I'd rather look at it as a way to like

2495
01:45:10,980 --> 01:45:13,260
encourage really good behavior which is

2496
01:45:13,260 --> 01:45:15,360
I want to look at the Town composting

2497
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,119
again and then I would also that if you look at it that way I would

2498
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:20,699
request that the town goes ahead and the

2499
01:45:20,699 --> 01:45:22,980
town property that we do own for for

2500
01:45:22,980 --> 01:45:25,320
multi-family business buildings that we

2501
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,239
do rental we offer composting at those

2502
01:45:27,239 --> 01:45:30,239
facilities then you know but as I stated

2503
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:32,340
yeah so I mean that's what I mean we I

2504
01:45:32,340 --> 01:45:33,780
think it's a little bigger discussion

2505
01:45:33,780 --> 01:45:36,659
that's what I I think this like is owed

2506
01:45:36,659 --> 01:45:38,820
like an agenda item where we can discuss

2507
01:45:38,820 --> 01:45:41,460
like hey if we're gonna ask harborlight

2508
01:45:41,460 --> 01:45:43,440
like who else should we be asking how

2509
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:45,960
can we be encouraging

2510
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,659
um and I know at the our meeting on the

2511
01:45:48,659 --> 01:45:50,219
11th we're going to talk to the Board of

2512
01:45:50,219 --> 01:45:51,600
Health and we're going to talk about the

2513
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,820
Plastics bylaw and I know this is part

2514
01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:55,500
of it

2515
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:57,780
um I don't know maybe it makes sense for

2516
01:45:57,780 --> 01:46:00,000
you to send us the new your new draft

2517
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,280
separately us to look at it and then to

2518
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,619
discuss it at that next meeting just

2519
01:46:04,619 --> 01:46:05,940
because I want to feel like we're like

2520
01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:08,159
looking taking a holistic view of it

2521
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:11,100
yeah and the goal I would assume is it

2522
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:14,159
is to to twofold to hear residents who

2523
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:15,360
don't feel like they're to help

2524
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:16,679
residents who don't feel like they're

2525
01:46:16,679 --> 01:46:19,920
heard but also to increase composting

2526
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,900
so I think we can probably

2527
01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:24,719
you know get both of those I just want

2528
01:46:24,719 --> 01:46:26,760
to think of it a little bit broader I

2529
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,440
mean my again like I said my biggest

2530
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:30,540
point is for the time to do composting

2531
01:46:30,540 --> 01:46:32,100
it's going to be a lot a lot larger

2532
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:34,860
Endeavor than them based on the size

2533
01:46:34,860 --> 01:46:37,260
probably getting one or two barrels from

2534
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:39,179
a composting company that will go sit

2535
01:46:39,179 --> 01:46:40,619
next to there

2536
01:46:40,619 --> 01:46:44,760
um already hilts uh containers yeah what

2537
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,520
if we put it on the next meeting agenda

2538
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,800
you send us your new draft and one of us

2539
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,480
can reach out to Andrew in the meantime

2540
01:46:51,480 --> 01:46:54,420
yeah um before we do that could is if

2541
01:46:54,420 --> 01:46:57,300
there's any requester at

2542
01:46:57,300 --> 01:46:59,580
any um anything that anyone wanted to

2543
01:46:59,580 --> 01:47:01,800
add I'll take that now so we can do it

2544
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,159
in a public form if not I will get my

2545
01:47:05,159 --> 01:47:08,159
edits and send it back out

2546
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:12,609
foreign

2547
01:47:12,619 --> 01:47:15,600
send it to us with your edits obviously

2548
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,340
not for discussion but we can then we

2549
01:47:17,340 --> 01:47:19,440
can discuss it and screen share it at

2550
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:22,619
the next meeting alrighty perfect that

2551
01:47:22,619 --> 01:47:24,300
sounds great it's cool it's really cool

2552
01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:26,159
that the residents brought it up to you

2553
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:28,920
guys at a campaign event yep like that's

2554
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,560
a neat yeah that's cool that like they

2555
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,060
thought to do that

2556
01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:36,119
yeah Rockport um apartments that was

2557
01:47:36,119 --> 01:47:37,920
there's a big discussion there yeah

2558
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:39,540
that's really cool that they thought of

2559
01:47:39,540 --> 01:47:41,820
it so

2560
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:44,940
um happy to help cool many many campaign

2561
01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:48,590
events for us right

2562
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,000
um Ross did you have any other updates

2563
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,880
um I think that should do it for now

2564
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,280
uh anyone else

2565
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,659
Paul

2566
01:47:57,659 --> 01:48:00,360
yes uh Madam chair thank you I just want

2567
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,639
to remind folks uh that the Fourth of

2568
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:04,440
July is coming up on Tuesday and

2569
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:06,960
Rockport will be packed as it usually is

2570
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,900
I'd like to encourage uh one of my

2571
01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:12,540
favorite events is uh the reading of the

2572
01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:14,460
Declaration of Independence at 10

2573
01:48:14,460 --> 01:48:17,699
o'clock down in um uh doc Square by uh

2574
01:48:17,699 --> 01:48:21,420
Matt Whitman the Reverend Mac uh so uh I

2575
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:23,159
hope people will join

2576
01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:25,440
um I hope the town is packed I think uh

2577
01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:27,980
last last time I talked with the

2578
01:48:27,980 --> 01:48:30,179
association the fire Association they

2579
01:48:30,179 --> 01:48:32,520
had like four or five bands lots of

2580
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,060
floats when I was a kid uh there used to

2581
01:48:36,060 --> 01:48:37,860
be neighborhood floats and so forth and

2582
01:48:37,860 --> 01:48:40,139
as times have changed they've dwindled

2583
01:48:40,139 --> 01:48:43,199
away but I understand is going to be a

2584
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:45,239
number of floats that will make uh make

2585
01:48:45,239 --> 01:48:48,060
the um the parade even better so

2586
01:48:48,060 --> 01:48:51,480
again I hope everyone has a safe uh

2587
01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:54,659
Fourth of July I know the the tpw would

2588
01:48:54,659 --> 01:48:56,340
be out the police will be out in force

2589
01:48:56,340 --> 01:48:58,619
and I'm sure it's going to be a

2590
01:48:58,619 --> 01:49:00,000
wonderful time

2591
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,940
great thanks Paul just to add on to that

2592
01:49:02,940 --> 01:49:05,159
um I know Toby had requested a last

2593
01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:07,920
meeting uh fundraising information for

2594
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,719
the Rockport firefighters Association

2595
01:49:09,719 --> 01:49:12,719
and I believe it is P.O box 2 Rockport

2596
01:49:12,719 --> 01:49:14,940
Mass if people want to send donations

2597
01:49:14,940 --> 01:49:18,659
and I followed with the fireworks

2598
01:49:18,659 --> 01:49:20,760
um donations for the fireworks in August

2599
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,060
can be sent to a Rockport illumination

2600
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:28,380
fund Incorporated and it's 16-b South

2601
01:49:28,380 --> 01:49:30,179
Street if people are interested in

2602
01:49:30,179 --> 01:49:31,920
sending donations to those I think it's

2603
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,600
a good time of year that both

2604
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,800
organizations are looking for donations

2605
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,159
looking forward to both of those events

2606
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:42,480
obviously just next week I can't believe

2607
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:46,790
it's the fourth of July it's so cold out

2608
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,199
um and Denise did you have any we're not

2609
01:49:49,199 --> 01:49:51,540
marching in the parade correct

2610
01:49:51,540 --> 01:49:53,940
nope no but to watch this one you could

2611
01:49:53,940 --> 01:49:56,119
have your own float Paul

2612
01:49:56,119 --> 01:49:58,980
I got enough Tomatoes I don't know how

2613
01:49:58,980 --> 01:50:01,199
well that would go over

2614
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:03,060
no it would be good I always did it when

2615
01:50:03,060 --> 01:50:05,750
I was a kid

2616
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:09,480
um I just wanted to

2617
01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:13,320
um I had one other update

2618
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,580
um

2619
01:50:14,580 --> 01:50:16,739
I think that's it for right now I think

2620
01:50:16,739 --> 01:50:17,820
that's it next we'll go to public

2621
01:50:17,820 --> 01:50:19,500
comment if I remember my comment I'll

2622
01:50:19,500 --> 01:50:23,639
make it after but um moving on to public

2623
01:50:23,639 --> 01:50:28,260
comment does anyone I see a few hands up

2624
01:50:28,260 --> 01:50:29,639
thank you

2625
01:50:29,639 --> 01:50:32,340
Laura you've been unmuted thank you

2626
01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:35,040
Laura Evans at 77 High Street I wanted

2627
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,500
to thank you folks for reappointing uh

2628
01:50:37,500 --> 01:50:39,780
Nathaniel Mulcahy and Ashley shed to the

2629
01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:42,900
concom they're um very very good

2630
01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:44,880
commission members and I've learned a

2631
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,699
lot from them and I think they add a lot

2632
01:50:47,699 --> 01:50:49,560
to the town

2633
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,300
um I feel like I'm kind of in an

2634
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:53,280
alternate universe though about

2635
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,460
um the uh the agent because I I've been

2636
01:50:56,460 --> 01:50:59,340
to all the concom meetings and they seem

2637
01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:02,340
quite most mostly quite civil and we

2638
01:51:02,340 --> 01:51:05,940
rely on John a lot I mean his expertise

2639
01:51:05,940 --> 01:51:10,560
is is very valuable and he you know we I

2640
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,980
wish he was available for more concom

2641
01:51:12,980 --> 01:51:15,600
work you know that he could come on more

2642
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,940
site visits with us and and I think he's

2643
01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:19,920
a great agent and I I think everybody

2644
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,860
that the chair regularly defers to him

2645
01:51:22,860 --> 01:51:25,020
during meetings so

2646
01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:28,619
um I want everyone to know that you know he

2647
01:51:28,619 --> 01:51:31,739
is he is very very much appreciated and

2648
01:51:31,739 --> 01:51:33,780
I'll I'll sing the admin assistant song

2649
01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:35,880
again I think he really needs a

2650
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,639
part-time paid admin assistant I mean

2651
01:51:38,639 --> 01:51:41,940
for the last meeting I spent some hours

2652
01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:44,159
um typing up an order of conditions and

2653
01:51:44,159 --> 01:51:46,619
amending and I'm a volunteer and that's

2654
01:51:46,619 --> 01:51:48,960
a legal document I mean we really should

2655
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:55,920
have as a town a a paid assistant to for our agent and I know that he this is

2656
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:57,659
somehow coupled with the Board of Health

2657
01:51:57,659 --> 01:52:00,000
person but you know the job's not posted

2658
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,760
and I think we really need to to support

2659
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,619
him because I do find that he's very

2660
01:52:04,619 --> 01:52:06,239
valuable

2661
01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:09,540
um and secondly on the back back on the

2662
01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:11,580
affordable housing front

2663
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:13,920
um I'm really hoping that uh chairman

2664
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,260
Lilia chairman of the affordable housing

2665
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:19,320
trust will look at the you know get some

2666
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,480
of those arpa funds for the trust to

2667
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:24,060
fund the trust um there's two 2.1

2668
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:26,219
million dollars there and while waiting

2669
01:52:26,219 --> 01:52:29,520
for next year's CPC application deadline

2670
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,679
you know there's there's money there for

2671
01:52:31,679 --> 01:52:34,440
affordable housing so I want to thank uh

2672
01:52:34,440 --> 01:52:37,020
selectman Lilia for leading the charge

2673
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:39,060
on that and hopefully securing some of

2674
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:40,920
the arpa funds for affordable housing

2675
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:44,590
thank you very much

2676
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,400
yeah I just wanted to clarify a few

2677
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,560
things first of all I've spoken to John

2678
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,679
Lopez our conservation agent as recently

2679
01:52:52,679 --> 01:52:56,100
as last week he is doing just fine with

2680
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:58,080
respect to support he gets plenty of

2681
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,780
support from Nancy Pitman

2682
01:53:00,780 --> 01:53:02,580
um in the building inspector's office

2683
01:53:02,580 --> 01:53:05,940
and as Laura knows the reason we had not

2684
01:53:05,940 --> 01:53:08,940
yet hired the part-time assistant is

2685
01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:10,800
because he will share that assistant

2686
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,020
with the health director and the Board

2687
01:53:13,020 --> 01:53:16,320
of Health and we have not yet hired a

2688
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,480
health director we want to give the

2689
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:21,119
health director the opportunity to

2690
01:53:21,119 --> 01:53:23,820
participate in the hiring decision

2691
01:53:23,820 --> 01:53:26,820
so I check in with John regularly as the

2692
01:53:26,820 --> 01:53:29,699
liaison and he reassures me that he's

2693
01:53:29,699 --> 01:53:32,340
fine with respect to support I do

2694
01:53:32,340 --> 01:53:35,520
appreciate Laura's concern but he's

2695
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,260
doing just fine

2696
01:53:37,260 --> 01:53:39,540
uh Denise just one correction it's Nancy

2697
01:53:39,540 --> 01:53:42,800
Kearns I mean yeah

2698
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,420
you know who I meant I know what you

2699
01:53:45,420 --> 01:53:48,119
meant sorry

2700
01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:50,689
great

2701
01:53:50,699 --> 01:53:56,050
um Monty next

2702
01:53:56,060 --> 01:54:00,900
Toby Thank You Toby arsenia 95 Grant

2703
01:54:00,900 --> 01:54:04,320
Street I was distressed and offended by

2704
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:07,320
the discussion about uh reappointments

2705
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,020
to the Conservation Commission

2706
01:54:10,020 --> 01:54:13,139
uh the Conservation Commission may have

2707
01:54:13,139 --> 01:54:16,260
30 years of experience but uh he's

2708
01:54:16,260 --> 01:54:19,860
relatively new on the ground here and uh

2709
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:22,679
his experience and uh knowledge are

2710
01:54:22,679 --> 01:54:24,360
certainly a fine asset for the

2711
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,179
commission and we have uh the Assurance

2712
01:54:27,179 --> 01:54:29,520
of Laura Evans that the commission

2713
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:33,239
avails themselves of his experience it's

2714
01:54:33,239 --> 01:54:35,820
not up to him to make the decisions or

2715
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:39,060
dictate them uh your board employs a

2716
01:54:39,060 --> 01:54:41,460
Town Administrator who has a degree in

2717
01:54:41,460 --> 01:54:43,800
government but it's up to the five of

2718
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:45,960
you and no one else to make the

2719
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:49,860
decisions you were elected you appointed

2720
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:51,480
the members of the Conservation

2721
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,540
Commission and it's up to them uh to

2722
01:54:54,540 --> 01:54:56,880
make the decisions it's properly up to

2723
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,000
the agent to let them know about all of

2724
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,179
the intricacies and of obscurities of

2725
01:55:03,179 --> 01:55:06,300
state law which are indeed endless and

2726
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:10,139
deathless also the local bylaw but

2727
01:55:10,139 --> 01:55:12,060
they're the ones who have to go out and

2728
01:55:12,060 --> 01:55:14,159
see on the ground and make the decisions

2729
01:55:14,159 --> 01:55:17,280
on the basis of what they see with his

2730
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,020
good advice

2731
01:55:19,020 --> 01:55:22,860
um you need both uh and he has only been

2732
01:55:22,860 --> 01:55:25,320
here recently and some of them have been

2733
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,420
here for many years and consequently

2734
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:30,659
know things uh of a different sort that

2735
01:55:30,659 --> 01:55:32,880
would also be essential

2736
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:36,360
uh so I you know feel that uh

2737
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,699
criticizing the commission for thinking

2738
01:55:38,699 --> 01:55:41,520
for themselves uh is heading in the

2739
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,739
wrong direction uh you need the

2740
01:55:43,739 --> 01:55:46,260
expertise of the agent and you also need

2741
01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:48,480
the independent minds of the

2742
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:56,629
Commissioners thank you

2743
01:55:56,639 --> 01:55:58,920
Nathaniel you've been unmuted

2744
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:00,719
thank you very much

2745
01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:01,880
um

2746
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,980
I first off I I'd like to thank the

2747
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:06,179
committee

2748
01:56:06,179 --> 01:56:07,739
um the select word for reappointing me

2749
01:56:07,739 --> 01:56:10,560
it has been an honor to serve for eight

2750
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,199
months on on this commission

2751
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:15,840
um it has been

2752
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,480
uh invigorating and it's been helpful

2753
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,320
for me to feel that I can provide my

2754
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,719
Decades of environmental policy and

2755
01:56:24,719 --> 01:56:26,880
science to this community that has

2756
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,800
become my home

2757
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:29,639
um

2758
01:56:29,639 --> 01:56:32,340
I'd like to just clarify a couple points

2759
01:56:32,340 --> 01:56:34,560
that I think were misrepresenting the

2760
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,619
actuality of things if you go back and

2761
01:56:37,619 --> 01:56:41,040
look at the old meetings

2762
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,960
and compare those recordings to the

2763
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,219
current meetings

2764
01:56:44,219 --> 01:56:47,820
it is a stark contrast between how

2765
01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:49,619
confrontational the earlier meetings

2766
01:56:49,619 --> 01:56:51,780
were and how this year

2767
01:56:51,780 --> 01:56:54,659
they have been completely

2768
01:56:54,659 --> 01:56:57,540
um civil and the discussion levels have

2769
01:56:57,540 --> 01:57:00,179
become more in-depth and involved the

2770
01:57:00,179 --> 01:57:01,739
community feels that they are being

2771
01:57:01,739 --> 01:57:03,480
listened to

2772
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,480
um in terms of uh agent Lopez we have

2773
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,820
all deferred to him uh Mr Brackett I've

2774
01:57:08,820 --> 01:57:12,900
seen your name on multiple meetings so

2775
01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:15,420
you know that our chairperson has

2776
01:57:15,420 --> 01:57:17,699
deferred to him every single meeting

2777
01:57:17,699 --> 01:57:19,260
when there was an issue that needed

2778
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:21,480
clarification we have relied on him

2779
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,060
heavily we appreciate his expertise and

2780
01:57:24,060 --> 01:57:27,659
we rely on him and what he knows

2781
01:57:27,659 --> 01:57:30,480
we are going through the training

2782
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,820
um in contrast to the comments made by

2783
01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:35,930
Mr Leah

2784
01:57:35,940 --> 01:57:39,300
I've got only one two-hour session left

2785
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:41,520
of the thing and I had 12 months to do

2786
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:42,780
that and I've only been in for eight

2787
01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:45,060
months so I think I'm doing pretty well

2788
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:47,520
considering the timeline and there were

2789
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,619
it was not possible to do all of it

2790
01:57:49,619 --> 01:57:51,320
because the courses were not available

2791
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:53,699
uh within the eight months of my

2792
01:57:53,699 --> 01:57:54,540
appointment

2793
01:57:54,540 --> 01:57:57,179
so given that I have 12 months to do

2794
01:57:57,179 --> 01:57:59,340
that from the letter that I signed with

2795
01:57:59,340 --> 01:58:01,440
my original appointment I am well on way

2796
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:03,659
to meeting that requirement which is a

2797
01:58:03,659 --> 01:58:05,400
requirement that I know no other

2798
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,679
Committee in town has to do any formal

2799
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:09,119
training and this is a new thing that

2800
01:58:09,119 --> 01:58:10,560
our committee does and we do it

2801
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,659
willingly and happily

2802
01:58:12,659 --> 01:58:14,520
um we are the only committee that seems

2803
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,080
to be getting criticized in this

2804
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,420
evening's uh reappointment thing and

2805
01:58:18,420 --> 01:58:20,400
then in terms of deferring to the final

2806
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:21,900
decisions

2807
01:58:21,900 --> 01:58:26,159
um as Mr Brackett seemed to imply we had

2808
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:28,020
questions about this and we did contact

2809
01:58:28,020 --> 01:58:31,020
the State and they did say specifically

2810
01:58:31,020 --> 01:58:33,420
citing the wetlands act that the final

2811
01:58:33,420 --> 01:58:36,480
legal decision is of the committee and

2812
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,719
we can rely on the agent for advice and

2813
01:58:39,719 --> 01:58:41,880
for guidance but the final

2814
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,219
determinations and the decisions that

2815
01:58:44,219 --> 01:58:46,920
must be made and our legally binding are

2816
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:48,719
done by the committee and that is

2817
01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:53,460
Massachusetts state law so we do rely

2818
01:58:53,460 --> 01:58:57,719
heavily on John he's a great asset and I'm happy to pop in and visit him

2819
01:58:57,719 --> 01:59:00,179
frequently in his office

2820
01:59:00,179 --> 01:59:01,020
um

2821
01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:04,320
but we are following the rules that our

2822
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,599
training has told us we must follow

2823
01:59:06,599 --> 01:59:09,780
so thank you for their appointment

2824
01:59:09,780 --> 01:59:11,639
um thank you to everybody else who's

2825
01:59:11,639 --> 01:59:14,099
serving with me and finally I would like

2826
01:59:14,099 --> 01:59:17,159
to encourage the select board to

2827
01:59:17,159 --> 01:59:18,960
remember that we still have two

2828
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,420
vacancies there have been times when

2829
01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:23,040
I've had to I've never missed a meeting

2830
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,080
and I've attended meetings even when I

2831
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:26,699
was sick or when my children were sick

2832
01:59:26,699 --> 01:59:29,040
for fear that there wouldn't be a quorum

2833
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,099
and it would be really helpful if those

2834
01:59:32,099 --> 01:59:34,440
two vacancies were actively recruited

2835
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:36,239
and appointed so that we would have our

2836
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:37,739
full committee finally and people

2837
01:59:37,739 --> 01:59:39,239
wouldn't have to attend when they are

2838
01:59:39,239 --> 01:59:40,679
sick or when their children are sick

2839
01:59:40,679 --> 01:59:42,780
thank you very much

2840
01:59:42,780 --> 01:59:45,840
Madam chair if I may sure just for the

2841
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,520
public for the record I never stated

2842
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,400
that the agent should be making the

2843
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,159
decisions I never stated that the

2844
01:59:53,159 --> 01:59:55,860
commission never listens to him or

2845
01:59:55,860 --> 01:59:57,560
anything that I said sometimes his

2846
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,300
advice and everything gets completely

2847
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:02,219
disregarded that was my only well not my

2848
02:00:02,219 --> 02:00:03,480
only comment but that was the comment

2849
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,760
that focused on the agent as well as

2850
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,060
sometimes it gets ridiculed in the

2851
02:00:09,060 --> 02:00:11,760
meetings that is all

2852
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,880
Denise yeah I I just wanted to mention

2853
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,860
that um

2854
02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:19,679
Daniel you the Conservation Commission

2855
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:22,500
unlike other boards and commissions is a

2856
02:00:22,500 --> 02:00:25,320
regulatory body and that's why the

2857
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:27,840
training is required and that's why I

2858
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,300
said it takes many many years of

2859
02:00:30,300 --> 02:00:33,540
experience for people really to be able

2860
02:00:33,540 --> 02:00:36,780
to exercise

2861
02:00:36,780 --> 02:00:40,020
um appropriately within a commission and

2862
02:00:40,020 --> 02:00:41,639
it's not to say that you guys aren't

2863
02:00:41,639 --> 02:00:44,580
doing that what I was saying was that

2864
02:00:44,580 --> 02:00:47,639
because it is a regulatory body

2865
02:00:47,639 --> 02:00:49,679
um John is the person who has the most

2866
02:00:49,679 --> 02:00:52,619
experience in applying Wetlands

2867
02:00:52,619 --> 02:00:57,980
protection act in Massachusetts and so

2868
02:00:57,980 --> 02:01:00,840
your engineering experience and your

2869
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,480
other experience is all relevant but you

2870
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:06,540
are not as a member of the Conservation

2871
02:01:06,540 --> 02:01:08,400
Commission allowed to use that

2872
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:10,860
experience in making your decisions

2873
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:13,980
so it's the other thing I will say is

2874
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,699
the the mass

2875
02:01:16,699 --> 02:01:19,020
Association of conservation commissions

2876
02:01:19,020 --> 02:01:21,800
is an uh

2877
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:25,460
advocacy group they are not the state

2878
02:01:25,460 --> 02:01:27,780
the Department of Environmental

2879
02:01:27,780 --> 02:01:30,960
Protection is the state not the advocacy

2880
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:33,540
group so there are some distinctions I

2881
02:01:33,540 --> 02:01:35,520
just wanted to make I think I know

2882
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:37,920
you're all working very hard and I

2883
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,659
certainly appreciate that I see it every

2884
02:01:39,659 --> 02:01:43,080
meeting they tend to go quite long

2885
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:44,940
um and they're getting a little bit

2886
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:47,580
better but still going quite long and I

2887
02:01:47,580 --> 02:01:49,260
just think there's there's a lot to be

2888
02:01:49,260 --> 02:01:51,599
learned from John and I I hope to

2889
02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:54,300
continue to see that happen great

2890
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:57,000
okay uh it looks like Ashley has her

2891
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,099
hand up auntie

2892
02:01:59,099 --> 02:02:02,219
yeah hi this is Ashley

2893
02:02:02,219 --> 02:02:04,080
um thank you for reappointing me to the

2894
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:05,460
commission

2895
02:02:05,460 --> 02:02:09,360
um you know I I do have uh a little bit

2896
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,880
of an issue with feeling like you know

2897
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,099
people are being called out

2898
02:02:14,099 --> 02:02:16,860
um publicly or like almost humiliated in

2899
02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:18,659
a in a way to bring up and address

2900
02:02:18,659 --> 02:02:21,480
issues that are completely unrelated to

2901
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:23,940
an appointment or a reappointment to a

2902
02:02:23,940 --> 02:02:25,380
commission

2903
02:02:25,380 --> 02:02:28,020
um it seems that there's uh a lot of

2904
02:02:28,020 --> 02:02:30,360
things that come up in meetings across

2905
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:31,440
the town

2906
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,719
um this one included that are kind of

2907
02:02:33,719 --> 02:02:37,500
nuanced and um not relevant to what is

2908
02:02:37,500 --> 02:02:39,780
actually being discussed

2909
02:02:39,780 --> 02:02:42,300
um you know and I just think that if

2910
02:02:42,300 --> 02:02:43,500
anything everyone needs to be

2911
02:02:43,500 --> 02:02:45,179
appreciated for the amount of time and

2912
02:02:45,179 --> 02:02:47,280
effort that they are putting into all of

2913
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:50,040
the meetings that they volunteer with

2914
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:53,699
um and you know uh chairman selectman

2915
02:02:53,699 --> 02:02:56,219
Lilia you know commenting on the fact

2916
02:02:56,219 --> 02:02:58,800
that Nathaniel and I haven't you know

2917
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,860
completed our MACC training and we were

2918
02:03:01,860 --> 02:03:05,280
given a deadline of next year to do so

2919
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:08,239
um you know it seems just

2920
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:10,080
kind of

2921
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,540
immature and childish

2922
02:03:12,540 --> 02:03:16,260
um and if we want the tone towards John

2923
02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:19,020
Lopez the the commission the

2924
02:03:19,020 --> 02:03:21,360
Conservation Commission agent to chain I

2925
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,099
think change I think maybe it needs to

2926
02:03:23,099 --> 02:03:25,860
start here you are representing the town

2927
02:03:25,860 --> 02:03:30,300
as well and uh I just I I feel

2928
02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:31,020
um

2929
02:03:31,020 --> 02:03:32,880
slated

2930
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,340
thank you

2931
02:03:35,340 --> 02:03:37,980
but if I may Madam chair and then her

2932
02:03:37,980 --> 02:03:40,380
yeah Denise Gill and then her yeah I

2933
02:03:40,380 --> 02:03:42,239
just I just wanted to say I'm sorry that

2934
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:43,860
you felt that way Ashley that was

2935
02:03:43,860 --> 02:03:46,139
certainly not my intent

2936
02:03:46,139 --> 02:03:48,000
um and I have said multiple times as

2937
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,280
I've spoken that I appreciate how hard

2938
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,679
everybody works I know it's a lot of

2939
02:03:52,679 --> 02:03:55,679
work and it's a it's a work in progress

2940
02:03:55,679 --> 02:03:58,739
It's an ongoing process so I hope that

2941
02:03:58,739 --> 02:04:01,320
you and Nathaniel and others are able to

2942
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,619
take these comments to heart we are by

2943
02:04:04,619 --> 02:04:07,560
law required to conduct

2944
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,099
um these conversations in public and so

2945
02:04:11,099 --> 02:04:12,780
sometimes it gets maybe a little bit

2946
02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:14,940
awkward but we're doing what we're

2947
02:04:14,940 --> 02:04:17,040
required to do by the open meeting law

2948
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:21,420
so nothing was intended to humiliate or

2949
02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:24,480
um belittle anyone so just wanted to say

2950
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:25,619
that

2951
02:04:25,619 --> 02:04:27,900
her

2952
02:04:27,900 --> 02:04:30,540
my point was um

2953
02:04:30,540 --> 02:04:32,639
not that

2954
02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:34,260
um well my point was that you had not

2955
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:36,320
completed your training and therefore

2956
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:40,320
you were not fully equipped to handle

2957
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,739
the entire decision-making process

2958
02:04:43,739 --> 02:04:46,320
um I think that the comments uh for us

2959
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,540
like woman don't only have slickman

2960
02:04:48,540 --> 02:04:51,599
Donnelly were right to the point and we

2961
02:04:51,599 --> 02:04:53,219
are concerned about the composition of

2962
02:04:53,219 --> 02:04:55,020
the community and maintaining the

2963
02:04:55,020 --> 02:04:58,560
composition on maintaining the

2964
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,659
um strength of the committee

2965
02:05:00,659 --> 02:05:03,540
um yes we need uh additional people to

2966
02:05:03,540 --> 02:05:06,300
join we need a committee that people are

2967
02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:08,099
willing to join there are some people

2968
02:05:08,099 --> 02:05:10,980
who are not willing to join because of

2969
02:05:10,980 --> 02:05:13,260
some past situations

2970
02:05:13,260 --> 02:05:15,300
um it is up to the committee as it is

2971
02:05:15,300 --> 02:05:17,760
currently composed

2972
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,540
um to uh that environment should be

2973
02:05:21,540 --> 02:05:24,719
welcoming to new individuals

2974
02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:27,060
um I think that's the point and again

2975
02:05:27,060 --> 02:05:29,940
the application of previous engineering

2976
02:05:29,940 --> 02:05:32,400
experience to a situation in town with

2977
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:35,099
regard to an Conservation Commission I

2978
02:05:35,099 --> 02:05:38,880
think is a misplaced but anyway be that

2979
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,699
as it may or may we go on and that our

2980
02:05:41,699 --> 02:05:44,880
new um agents will in fact stay with us

2981
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:46,679
for a long period of time we certainly

2982
02:05:46,679 --> 02:05:49,020
don't want to see him leave despite what

2983
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:50,820
people have said about the fact that he

2984
02:05:50,820 --> 02:05:52,739
is comfortable

2985
02:05:52,739 --> 02:05:54,960
um as has been said already so anyway

2986
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,360
I'm just listen to the words they're not

2987
02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:59,099
intended to

2988
02:05:59,099 --> 02:06:01,760
um to um you mean anyone in particular

2989
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:05,099
there's simply reminders of the overall

2990
02:06:05,099 --> 02:06:07,080
responsibility that you have to the town

2991
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:15,550
not just to your personal points of view

2992
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,540
yeah I I was just gonna say with respect

2993
02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:19,380
to

2994
02:06:19,380 --> 02:06:21,060
um new members

2995
02:06:21,060 --> 02:06:23,099
um I know that for example the finance

2996
02:06:23,099 --> 02:06:25,199
committee the historical commission they

2997
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:27,719
do a good job of recruiting people to

2998
02:06:27,719 --> 02:06:31,500
their ranks if you um Can perhaps try to

2999
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:33,239
do the same the members of the

3000
02:06:33,239 --> 02:06:34,739
commission who are

3001
02:06:34,739 --> 02:06:36,360
um on the meeting tonight

3002
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:38,460
um you know I'm constantly looking for

3003
02:06:38,460 --> 02:06:41,219
people and inviting people to join the

3004
02:06:41,219 --> 02:06:43,440
Conservation Commission

3005
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,900
um so I'd appreciate any help that that

3006
02:06:45,900 --> 02:06:48,360
you can offer but I know that other

3007
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:50,460
committees do uh um do a lot of work

3008
02:06:50,460 --> 02:06:53,159
trying to recruit people so need your

3009
02:06:53,159 --> 02:06:56,089
help with that

3010
02:06:56,099 --> 02:07:00,780
yeah so I just want to say you know as childless and immature some

3011
02:07:00,780 --> 02:07:02,880
conversations may be they do have to

3012
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:04,860
happen and for us they do have to happen

3013
02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:07,380
in public so I apologize if they offends

3014
02:07:07,380 --> 02:07:09,239
anyone but I do have to inform my

3015
02:07:09,239 --> 02:07:12,060
colleagues of my thoughts and processes

3016
02:07:12,060 --> 02:07:13,800
in public I can't do that in a meeting

3017
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,199
to have an open discussion with them

3018
02:07:16,199 --> 02:07:18,599
um you know as as was pointed out I do

3019
02:07:18,599 --> 02:07:20,099
attend many of the meetings and I do

3020
02:07:20,099 --> 02:07:23,040
talk to the agent on a regular basis and

3021
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:24,960
tonight I didn't name any names so I

3022
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:28,739
wasn't targeting anyone so thank you

3023
02:07:28,739 --> 02:07:30,480
okay

3024
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:31,980
um any

3025
02:07:31,980 --> 02:07:36,890
other public comments this evening

3026
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:39,360
okay hearing none our next meeting is

3027
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:42,540
the 11th so sorry that's correct and on

3028
02:07:42,540 --> 02:07:44,580
the 11th we will do

3029
02:07:44,580 --> 02:07:46,440
um our we'll do the selectman's business

3030
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,179
in the first half of the meeting second

3031
02:07:48,179 --> 02:07:50,040
half will be a joint meeting with the

3032
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,199
Board of Health and I believe we have

3033
02:07:52,199 --> 02:07:54,900
three kind of topics to discuss with

3034
02:07:54,900 --> 02:07:56,400
them we'll send out obviously we'll be

3035
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:59,340
on the posted agenda before then but um

3036
02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:02,400
besides that have a wonderful and safe

3037
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:05,280
Fourth of July and we will see everyone

3038
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:06,719
soon

3039
02:08:06,719 --> 02:08:09,139
all right thank you everyone

3040
02:08:09,139 --> 02:08:12,480
thank you are we gonna move to adjourn

3041
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,560
oh I'm sorry we need a motion to adjourn

3042
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:19,460
so moved is there a second second

3043
02:08:19,460 --> 02:08:22,199
emotion has been made and seconded uh

3044
02:08:22,199 --> 02:08:25,440
any further discussion selectman bracket

3045
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:27,300
all right quick middle yeah all right

3046
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:29,280
flickman Murphy

3047
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,699
all right select Roman Donnelly hi

3048
02:08:32,699 --> 02:08:35,159
select woman Wilkinson uh the motion

3049
02:08:35,159 --> 02:08:37,739
carries uh see everybody soon

3050
02:08:37,739 --> 02:08:40,530
okay good night everyone

3051
02:08:40,530 --> 02:08:43,800
[Music]

3052
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,800
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