1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,319 Good even uh good evening and welcome to 2 00:00:06,319 --> 00:00:09,120 the standing fall town meeting convened 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:10,880 pursuant uh pursuant to Rockport's code 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,519 of bylaws. I note for the record a 5 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:14,960 quorum being present the meeting is 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,840 called to order. On my on the dis to my 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,560 right are town clerk Melanie Wadell and 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,960 assistant town clerk Courtney Buchanan. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,240 To my left, town council uh Greg Corvo 10 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,840 and town administrator uh Mitch Vieiraa. 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,079 Uh sitting in convened session this 12 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,079 evening are the Brockport Select Board, 13 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,160 the Community Preservation Committee, 14 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:37,520 the Department of Public Works 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Commissioners, the Finance Committee, 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,360 and the Historical Commission. I don't 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,280 think I left anybody out, but if I did, 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,239 let me know. 19 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:46,960 I'm going [clears throat] to have you 20 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,559 stand in a moment. And just to preview 21 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:50,000 for you, you're going to stand for three 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,520 events. the [clears throat] pledge of 23 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,160 allegiance, an invocation, and then a 24 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,920 brief moment of silence in commemoration 25 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,160 of 911, which I'll introduce very 26 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,960 briefly. So, at this time, please stand, 27 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,440 attend the nation's flag, and kindly 28 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,360 recite with me the pledge of allegiance, 29 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,360 and remain standing for the invocation 30 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,000 and for the moment of silence. 31 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,799 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 32 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:14,960 United States of America and to the 33 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:18,240 republic for which it stands, one nation 34 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,680 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,320 justice for all. I will now ask Reverend 36 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,360 Nathan Ives of the St. Peter San Pedro 37 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Episcopal Church in Salem and one of 38 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200 Rockport's assistant fire chiefs to step 39 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:42,069 forward and deliver the invocation. 40 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:45,040 Let us pray. 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Most loving God, as we assemble in this 42 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,840 special town by the sea to do the work 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 of government this night, bless us as we 44 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 take up these tasks so that our efforts 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,000 will be plumbed to the ways of justice, 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,880 level to the lines of fairness, and true 47 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,200 to the values of mutual respect and 48 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,799 appreciation for one another's ideas and 49 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,440 opinions. And bless our community and 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,840 our commonwealth and our nation, oh God, 51 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,680 to always be focused on the needs of 52 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,840 your people. and especially the most 53 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 vulnerable in our midst. In your holy 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,800 name we pray. Amen. 55 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,791 >> Thank you, Reverend Dives. Please 56 00:02:22,791 --> 00:02:24,080 [clears throat] remain standing for a 57 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,640 brief moment. This past Friday, 58 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,959 Rockport, like cities and towns across 59 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:31,360 the country, observed the 25th 60 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,160 anniversary of the vicious attacks 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,546 carried out against the United States by 62 00:02:36,546 --> 00:02:38,239 [clears throat] terrorist forces which 63 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:40,640 murdered 2,977 64 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,040 innocent lives and the consequences of 65 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 which continue to take the lives of 66 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,760 thousands more, including first 67 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,640 responders and good Samaritans. We won't 68 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,879 attempt to duplicate that ceremony led 69 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:54,400 by our fire department, police 70 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,400 department, first responders, and the 71 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,480 American Legion. But if you were there 72 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,640 last Friday, you know how powerful it 73 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:02,879 was. Let's take a brief moment of 74 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,760 silence tonight before we undertake the 75 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,480 tasks before us, which are the always 76 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,040 important, even if sometimes seemingly 77 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,599 mundane, decisions required by 78 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:15,280 self-government. 79 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,840 You being here tonight does much to 80 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,560 honor the dead and to tell the attackers 81 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,720 that they failed and that they will 82 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,440 always fail. Please join me in a brief 83 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:40,710 moment of silence. 84 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:48,550 Thank you. You may be seated. Thank you. 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,560 The first order of business is the 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,560 reading of the warrant. The chair will 87 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,799 entertain a motion to omit the verbatim 88 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:56,959 reading of the warrant articles. 89 00:03:56,959 --> 00:03:57,439 >> Second. 90 00:03:57,439 --> 00:03:59,680 >> Is there's a second moved and seconded. 91 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,640 The [clears throat] question before you 92 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,480 is whether to omit a verbatim reading of 93 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,080 the warrant articles. It requires a 94 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,879 majority vote to pass. All in favor say 95 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:08,319 I. 96 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:10,640 >> Oppose say no. 97 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,519 That motion carries by a majority. The 98 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:15,040 second order of business would be 99 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,799 reading of the return on a s service of 100 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:18,400 the warrant, but I am informed we've had 101 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,880 a procedural change where the return of 102 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,400 service has been included with the 103 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,400 warrant. Uh so we may note that for the 104 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,898 record having been accomplished 105 00:04:27,898 --> 00:04:28,639 [clears throat] 106 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,600 um for this evening's meeting, uh there 107 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240 are restrooms outside of the uh the 108 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,800 hall. Smoking is prohibited anywhere on 109 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,479 school grounds, which I think everybody 110 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:40,320 certainly knows by now. Please keep in 111 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,600 mind we're guests of the school 112 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,360 department, so let's keep the hall and 113 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,759 the area clean. And then finally, please 114 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,400 silence any cell phones, pagers, Apple 115 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,240 watches, or anything else that may make 116 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,440 noise and interrupt the meeting. [cough] 117 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,880 The meeting will be conducted in 118 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,400 accordance with Robert's rules of order 119 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,400 as adapted to town meeting by the laws 120 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,560 of the Commonwealth, Rockport's bylaws, 121 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,639 and custom and practice. First 122 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,240 principle, let's be civil to one 123 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,759 another, listen carefully to one 124 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:07,680 another, and consider our decisions 125 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,080 thoughtfully. I'll briefly summarize our 126 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,320 expected procedure and refer you to the 127 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,160 guide for voters participating in town 128 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400 meeting contained in your voters 129 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,639 booklet. I have a long form and I have a 130 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:20,080 short form. And once again, for the 131 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,840 fall, you all look like the usual crowd, 132 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,228 so I'm going to go to the short form. 133 00:05:24,228 --> 00:05:25,360 [cough and clears throat] 134 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,039 All comments and remarks are addressed 135 00:05:27,039 --> 00:05:28,960 to the chair and should relate to the 136 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,880 immediate question before the meeting. 137 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,639 Remarks should focus on the question 138 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,639 before the meeting, its merits or lack 139 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:37,120 of merit, not on personalities. The 140 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,039 motion, not the person, is the subject 141 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:41,520 of the discussion. The sponsor bringing 142 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,520 a motion ordinarily is afforded seven 143 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,759 minutes for remarks and subsequent 144 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:47,919 speakers ordinarily have three minutes. 145 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:49,440 I will warn you if you are approaching 146 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,960 your limit so that you can make your 147 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,880 final points. [cough and clears throat] 148 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,639 Speakers technically can't start back 149 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:56,720 and forth questioning. However, if 150 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,240 issues arise which call for 151 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,639 clarification, I'll try to get focused, 152 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:02,479 specific answers for you to avoid 153 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:05,280 confusion. Straw polls, how many favor 154 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,039 this or that, are not in order and 155 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:08,960 should not be requested and will not be 156 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,199 allowed. Speakers won't usually be 157 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:13,280 recognized more than twice to address a 158 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,280 particular debatable issue and 159 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:16,800 preference will be given to voters who 160 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,520 have not yet spoken. [snorts] 161 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,759 If by a twothirds vote, if a two-thirds 162 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:24,080 vote is required by statute or bylaw, 163 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,000 and I declare the vote or announce the 164 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,319 vote was unanimous, if anyone wants to 165 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:30,000 challenge my announced vote, please go 166 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,840 ahead and do so. will vote again and I 167 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:34,319 will take the count by electronic means. 168 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,400 When discussion on a debatable motion is 169 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,199 done, we'll proceed to vote. Once we 170 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,199 make that transition, further discussion 171 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,600 is not in order. That happens when 172 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,440 either I, as the moderator, sense that 173 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,440 you're ready to vote or a member with 174 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,280 the floor makes a motion to move the 175 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:51,919 previous question or end debate. Five 176 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:53,520 points on any motion for the previous 177 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,600 question to end debate. First, you must 178 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,039 have the floor. You can't just shout it 179 00:06:57,039 --> 00:06:59,520 out. I won't take it up. Second, once 180 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,360 properly made, it's not itself a 181 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,960 debatable motion. We will move 182 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,639 immediately to voting on whether or not 183 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:07,360 to end debate. Third, if you make this 184 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 motion, that is all that you should say. 185 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Don't argue your view and then move the 186 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,960 question. If you decide to make this 187 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,639 motion when you're recognized, please 188 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:16,080 just state your name and residential 189 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 address and state I move the question or 190 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,199 I move to end debate. Fifth and finally, 191 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:23,199 with this in mind, I would ask any 192 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:25,840 member to consider before moving to end 193 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,360 discussion 194 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,080 whether [clears throat] there have been 195 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,080 legitimate issues raised by your friends 196 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,919 and neighbors here which have not yet 197 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:34,160 been clarified. I won't stop you from 198 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,000 bringing the motion, but I ask you to be 199 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,080 mindful of this before making it. If 200 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,080 this motion is made and fails, however, 201 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,080 it is then within my discuss uh 202 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,479 discretion as the chair to determine 203 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:47,039 when another such motion may again be 204 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:50,160 put before the meeting for a vote. I 205 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,720 want to [clears throat] thank our 206 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,400 microphone runners uh Emily Welski and 207 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,039 Emil Almanzar. If you guys can raise 208 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:58,960 your hands so we everybody can see you. 209 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,240 Thank you Molly and Emil. 210 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,560 Uh for today's meetings for today's 211 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,919 meeting I have determined that the 212 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:08,000 following articles are related so that 213 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,160 when any one of a related group is drawn 214 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,240 by the town clerk we will take up the 215 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,639 articles in that group in the order 216 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:18,960 stated uh A and B and then C D and E. So 217 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,400 if B is drawn, we'll go A and then B. If C D or E are drawn, we'll go C D and 218 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,879 E. Uh the town clerk can better explain 219 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:29,280 how lottery articles are drawn. Miss 220 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:37,190 Widow. 221 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,560 » Can we get the mic on? 222 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:40,640 >> I think it's on now. Okay. Hi everyone. 223 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,279 Uh yes. So inside the bag, I have 224 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:45,680 articles A through G on Scrabble 225 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,760 letters. the same way we've done it at 226 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,680 every town meeting since I've been town 227 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:51,519 clerk. Um, I will put all the letters 228 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:54,160 inside the bag and we'll pull one out 229 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 and we will then do the articles as 230 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,360 related once we get through. We'll have 231 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,279 three up. We'll get through those and 232 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,040 then we'll pull the next three. But it's 233 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,600 a short warrant tonight. So 234 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,959 >> Brian, do you want me to start just to 235 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:08,160 pull the first one so we know? 236 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,600 >> Sure. Yeah, go ahead. Let's pull the 237 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 first article. 238 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,519 >> First article is A. 239 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:14,640 >> All right, that's easy. So, we're going 240 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,720 to do A and then B. Before we do that, 241 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,720 let's do a quick QA check on the 242 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,399 electronic clickers. We very well may 243 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,560 use electronic voting this evening. So, 244 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,560 everybody take out your clickers. Let me 245 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,560 just explain. I know I recognize a lot 246 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:27,600 of faces. I know you've been here 247 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,959 before, but let me just go through the 248 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:30,640 drill. [clears throat] There will be 12 249 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,160 seconds put on the clock whenever we're 250 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,480 going to take an electronic vote. When 251 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,800 that's counting down, you can vote as 252 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,320 often as you want. It's only going to 253 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,200 register once. I will introduce the 254 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,120 voting by saying something like, "Vote 255 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,040 now. Now, now and I'll continue to say 256 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,800 it as that starts to count down. So, you 257 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,920 can watch the clock and you can know 258 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,399 that your vote counts. When you press a 259 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:53,360 button, you want to see a green light, 260 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,600 right, Mike? Green light. So, you're 261 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,160 looking for a green light during the 12 262 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,080 seconds. I think if you press it early 263 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,360 or late, it's going to be red, but 264 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,880 during the 12 seconds, it should light 265 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,800 up green. [clears throat] So, uh, we'll 266 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,880 have a question. All right. I get $128 267 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,880 stipen to be moderator. So here's the 268 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,120 question. The question is whether we 269 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,720 want to forget town meeting, we all go 270 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,200 to Dairy Train, get ice cream on me, my 271 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,839 treat. That's the question. 272 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:24,222 So get your clickers out. 273 00:10:24,222 --> 00:10:26,320 [clears throat] All those in favor of 274 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,720 blowing off uh town meeting and going to 275 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,160 get ice cream at the dairy train, you're 276 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,120 going to press one or A for I. If you 277 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,399 are opposed and you want to do the 278 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:35,760 business that we frankly have to do, 279 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,760 you're going to press two or B for no. 280 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,519 And this is just a check to make sure a 281 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:42,880 green light shows up. So, all those in 282 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,560 favor of blowing this popsicle stand and 283 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,040 getting ice cream, press one or A for I. 284 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,279 All those opposed, press two or B for 285 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:53,760 no. Voting now. Now. Now. Now. It's 286 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,079 counting down. You can vote now and look 287 00:10:56,079 --> 00:11:05,590 for a green light. 288 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:12,550 » All right, let's go to the dairy train. 289 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:12,880 to 290 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 >> uh Mr. Arcinian, yours is red. 291 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,399 >> Okay, hang on. We need to get you 292 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,240 another clicker then. And you have yours 293 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,519 is red, too. So, we've got to anyone 294 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,920 else? Anyone have a red light? One. I've 295 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,710 got three that need to be replaced. 296 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:35,590 » Okay, hold on. 297 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,399 » Okay. 298 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:40,560 Yes. So, Linda, we've got um Mr. 299 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:44,160 Arcinian. Uh 300 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,480 >> we've got Kate Shaw and sir, you as 301 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 well. 302 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,480 >> Yeah, it'll be red now. We have to do 303 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,240 the test again. Remember, you're looking 304 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,480 for a green light when you press the 305 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,240 button as that countdown is running from 306 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,320 12 seconds down to zero. That's the only 307 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,440 time you're going to get the green 308 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,079 light. That's why we put the countdown 309 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:10,069 up there. 310 00:12:10,079 --> 00:12:12,000 Did anyone have a failed clicker that 311 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,750 hasn't gotten a replacement? 312 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,040 » Keep Yeah, keep your hands up if you 313 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:24,069 would. 314 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:37,110 » Yeah. 315 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:42,079 Ma'am, you you're waiting for one. Okay. 316 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:43,600 Are they getting more? Linda, we need 317 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,870 another one. 318 00:12:46,880 --> 00:13:03,190 » Huh? 319 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:10,710 Uh, right here, Linda. 320 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,990 » Oh, all we can do is run it again. 321 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:23,829 » Yes, this gentleman down here. 322 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:39,509 And then over here, Linda. 323 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:42,320 And then Linda uh Tom Mike is right 324 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:49,430 there and then behind him. 325 00:13:49,440 --> 00:14:01,670 » We'll do it again. 326 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:05,430 Y 327 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,800 okay. Did anybody have a failed clicker 328 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,320 that does not yet have a replacement? 329 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,240 I'm looking. Speak up because I don't 330 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,600 see anybody raising their hands. All 331 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,040 right. So, we're [clears throat] going 332 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,120 to do it again. 333 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,760 I'm going to state the question briefly. 334 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,600 12 seconds is going to go on the clock. 335 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,680 I'm going to say vote now. Now, now. 336 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,519 Watch the 12 seconds. Make sure that clock is running when you press and 337 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:33,350 look for the green light. 338 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,199 All right. The question is whether we're 339 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:36,639 going to blow this off and go get an ice 340 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:38,639 cream. All those in favor are going to 341 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:41,519 press one or A for I. All those opposed 342 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:44,639 are going to press two or B for no. 343 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,600 Voting 344 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,920 now. Now. Now. Now. 98. This is when you 345 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,040 should be hitting the button and looking 346 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 for a green light. 347 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,800 As many times as you want. Two. One. 348 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Stop. 349 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,189 Anybody have a failed clicker? 350 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:08,639 » Okay. Thank you. 351 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:12,079 >> Did anybody have a failed clicker? 352 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:14,160 >> One. One person. 353 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,920 >> Okay. Okay. 354 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,839 >> And and ma'am, did your clicker work the 355 00:15:17,839 --> 00:15:19,600 first time? 356 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,120 >> No. Okay. So, that's your first 357 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,639 replacement. All right. So, um 358 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,720 >> that's your second replacement. Okay. 359 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Again, don't buy a lottery ticket today. 360 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,279 >> All right. I won't restate the I won't 361 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:34,800 restate the question. You all know what 362 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,040 it is. All those in favor, press one or 363 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,680 A for I. All those opposed, press two or 364 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,519 B for no. voting 365 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,000 now. Now, now is when you should be 366 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,440 pressing the button. Now is when you get 367 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:56,240 a green light. 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 stop. All 368 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,839 right. Anybody have a failed clicker? 369 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:01,600 Okay. 370 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 All right. [clears throat] So, um we are 371 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,279 on a if I understood right. Mr. Vieiraa, 372 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,160 is there a motion? 373 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,079 >> Mr. Moderator, Select Board Chair Paul 374 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:15,040 Murphy moves uh motion for article A as 375 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,920 printed on page 18 in the September 376 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,639 14th, 2026 falltown meeting voters 377 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:22,959 booklet. The select board and finance 378 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:25,759 committee recommend this article. 379 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:27,279 >> Seconded. 380 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:28,800 >> Okay. And it'll [clears throat] be up on 381 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,800 the screen in a moment. Moved. And there 382 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,800 is a second. The question is whether to 383 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 appropriate and transfer the sums as set 384 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,320 forth on page 18 of the voters's booklet 385 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,800 to pay unpaid bills and adjustments from 386 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,040 prior fiscal years. This requires a 9/10 387 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,800 vote. 388 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,519 Mr. Vieira, 389 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:49,759 >> Mr. Moderator, this is to address uh a 390 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:51,920 single bill uh for one department from a 391 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,320 vendor that came in after uh our 392 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,160 statemandated deadline for paying prior 393 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,079 year bills. So, the bill just came late. 394 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:00,000 This remedies that matter. 395 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,480 >> All right. Any further discussion? 396 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Seeing none, I sent you ready to vote. 397 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,839 I'm going to try this on a voice vote. 398 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:07,600 If it is not clearly unanimous, we're 399 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,959 going to use the clickers, but in 400 00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:10,559 efficiency, I'm going to try a voice 401 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:12,559 vote. [clears throat] So, the question 402 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,000 is whether to appropriate and transfer 403 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,640 the sum set forth on page 18 to pay 404 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,120 unpaid bills from prior fiscal years. It 405 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:21,199 requires a 9/10en vote. All those in 406 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:23,360 favor say I. I. 407 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:26,000 >> All those opposed say no. That motion 408 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,919 carries and it is unanimous. On to 409 00:17:27,919 --> 00:17:32,390 article B. 410 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Mr. Moderator, Finance Committee Chair 411 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,679 Loren Russell moves that the town amend 412 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:37,919 the votes taken under articles 5, 5A, 413 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:41,679 5B, 5C, 6, 6A, and/or 6B of the April 414 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:44,880 5th, 2025 uh annual town meeting by 415 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,640 transferring the sum set forth in the 416 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,039 September 14th, 2026 fall town meeting 417 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:52,320 voters booklet for article B as shown on 418 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,200 your screen. 419 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,200 the amounts listed for for the purposes 420 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,360 specified therein. The select board and 421 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,360 the finance committee recommend this 422 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,400 article. 423 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,520 >> Seconded. 424 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,120 >> Moved. And there is a second. The 425 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:06,799 question is whether to amend the votes 426 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,679 taken at the April 11, 2026 annual town 427 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:11,919 meeting under the cited articles by 428 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:14,400 transferring the specified sums which 429 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,880 are on pages 18 through 19 of the voters 430 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,679 booklet. This requires a majority vote. 431 00:18:19,679 --> 00:18:24,870 Is there any discussion? 432 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,120 Seeing none, I sent you ready to vote. 433 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,640 It requires a majority vote. Uh the 434 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,000 question is whether to amend the votes 435 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,919 taken under the cited statutes and 436 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:35,520 transferring the specified sums as 437 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,919 discussed. All those in favor say I. 438 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:38,480 >> I. 439 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,200 >> Opposed say no. That motion carries and 440 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,200 it is unanimous. Uh and I was supposed 441 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,720 to have another article drawn but I 442 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,919 forgot to let Miss Wadell do that. 443 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:51,520 E 444 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 >> E. So [clears throat] that will then be 445 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 C, D, and E. We'll have a motion on 446 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,440 article C followed by D followed by E. 447 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,230 So motion on article C, Mr. Vieira. 448 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,400 » Mr. moderator, CPC chair Ruth George 449 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,720 moves the motion printed for article C 450 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 on page 19 of the voters's booklet. The 451 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,480 select board and the community 452 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,919 preservation committee recommend this 453 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,400 article. 454 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,640 >> Is there a second? Moved and moved and 455 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,640 seconded. The question is whether to 456 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,160 receive the annual report of the 457 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,679 community preservation committee 458 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:35,909 requires a majority vote. Miss George. 459 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:38,320 Good evening everyone. My name is Ruth 460 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,160 George and I am the chair of the 461 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Rockport Community Preservation 462 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Committee. I'm presenting tonight in 463 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,360 accordance with the town of Rockport 464 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,960 bylaw chapter 2 section 6D. This calls 465 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,960 for recommendations to be made at town 466 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,280 meeting. You will hear later this 467 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,799 evening about each of our current 468 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:56,960 applications that we are presenting to 469 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,880 you, the voters, for approval and 470 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,320 spending your CPC funds. First, I'd like 471 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,799 to do a quick recap of CPC and the town 472 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:06,640 of Rockport. 473 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,039 26 years ago today, September 14th, 474 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:12,799 2000, 475 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:15,600 then Governor Paul Saluchi signed into 476 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,320 law the Community Preservation Act. this 477 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,000 very day 26 years ago. The core reasons 478 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,520 for starting CPC were combating suburban 479 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,919 sprawl, unplanned development was 480 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,080 consuming massive amounts of open land 481 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,799 space in the Commonwealth. Number two, 482 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:35,440 budget constraints. Regular municipal 483 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,919 budgets like ours rarely had enough 484 00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:40,960 non-essential money for long-term land 485 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,679 and historic preservation and for 486 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:46,799 advocacy efforts. A multi-deade push by 487 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:49,280 the community preservation coalition and 488 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,600 the environmental and housing groups led 489 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,720 the law to be passed. This also strived 490 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,200 to provide affordable housing and enable 491 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,520 the next generation of long-term 492 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,600 residents to remain close to their 493 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,039 homes. 494 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:05,600 You, the voters, voted in CPC at our 495 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Springtown meeting in 2002 at the 496 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:12,640 maximum percentage allowed at 3%. And 497 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,799 our first projects came before the town 498 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:17,039 in 2003. 499 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,960 Of the approximate 351 cities and towns, 500 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840 we were in the first 12 to 15 to be 501 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,520 approved in the state to have CPC. 502 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520 is overseen by the department of 503 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080 revenue and it is made up of a mandatory 504 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,400 group of town boards that we have four 505 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,799 appointed by the moderate moderator. So 506 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:39,520 there are nine total on the committee. 507 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,679 Currently serving on the committee are 508 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:44,720 housing authority Dana, conservation 509 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 commission Don Epstein, myself from the 510 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,200 DPW, the planning board Peter Cutner, 511 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,679 historic commission Carrie O'Donnell, 512 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:55,840 and four other appointed by the 513 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,840 moderator Mel Michaels who's our 514 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,120 treasurer, Larry Neil, Jim Yugoni, and 515 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,080 Sue Terry Blake who is our vice chair. 516 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,799 We also have assigned liaison select 517 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:09,520 board Paul Murphy finance committee 518 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Christine Maguire. We meet monthly via 519 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,200 Zoom on the second Monday of the month. 520 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,679 Funds can only be used if they fall into 521 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:20,480 one of the four categories. 522 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Affordable housing, historic 523 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,720 preservation, open space, and 524 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,559 recreation. 525 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,960 This year in 2026, I want to talk about 526 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080 what we've done and why. In the fall, we 527 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,640 held our yearly workshop to explain CPC 528 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,440 application process to residents and all 529 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,440 the town boards and committees and 530 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,559 encouraging new and existing applicants. 531 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,039 Our application deadline is always the 532 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,000 same. It's the first Monday of February. 533 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,320 That's when the work really starts for 534 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,159 the committee reviewing initial 535 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:54,880 applications and working with each group 536 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,600 to see if their specific application 537 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,840 does meet the standard under which their 538 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,559 specific category is. After going 539 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,320 through revisions and then coming back 540 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720 to present their applications several 541 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,799 times to get it just right for you, the 542 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:11,520 voters. This year we received nine 543 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:19,270 applications totaling 1,379,884. 544 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760 This year two of the applications didn't 545 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,559 at first look meet the CPC criteria as 546 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,799 submitted, but as you will see in the 547 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:29,120 presentations, we worked and looked 548 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,840 outside the box for projects especially 549 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,960 fitting for the town and its residents. 550 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,960 This past year, we also looked at all 551 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,919 the outstanding CPC projects that had 552 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:43,280 unspent monies. There were 28, including 553 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,840 nine new projects approved last year. We 554 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000 request that all the applicants include 555 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,280 a 10 10% contingency into their cost 556 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,400 estimate. Money given for each project 557 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,799 has specifics that it can be spent on 558 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,320 and they are not allowed to add 559 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,400 additional items to use up the remaining 560 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,480 money of CPC. 561 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Looking at projects back to 2014, we now 562 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,240 will be able to close out nine projects 563 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,799 and get unspent money balances back to 564 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:16,960 CPC for projects for next year. 565 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,880 This year the state has gone from 566 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,679 initial match back when we started of 567 00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:23,679 101% 568 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:28,080 in 2003 to the projected match for 20 569 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,600 2027 570 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,919 18.6% 571 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:33,840 more communities sharing the pot of 572 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,120 decreasing funds. At our July meeting we 573 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,559 held a public hearing at which the 574 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,880 applicants presented. Then the committee 575 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,799 finalized which applications to move 576 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,880 forward to the town meeting and for what 577 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,159 amounts. 578 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:48,159 I'm happy to say that all nine have 579 00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:51,440 moved forward. We on CPC are stewards of 580 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,120 your money, all of our residents money. 581 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,640 Tonight, we have nine great 582 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,720 applications, all that he helped keep 583 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Rockport, Rockport, the town we all 584 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760 love. Reflecting on the initial goal of 585 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,720 CPC act, I'm happy to say that we have 586 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,360 62 open space recreation projects, 65 587 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,240 historic preservation projects, and 30 588 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,600 32 projects using CPC money to help in 589 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 our affordable housing category, 590 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,600 totaling over $17 million that we've 591 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 brought into the town. 592 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:28,480 We have created a poster of all the CPC 593 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320 appropriations 594 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,480 um as of um May 10th, 2026 for you all 595 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,159 to see the amazing things that we've 596 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,559 been able to do, you've been able to do. 597 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,799 It's out in the front lobby and it will 598 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,320 be rotated through different town 599 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,080 buildings like the town hall and the 600 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,400 library so residents can see just what 601 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,240 has been accomplished and hopefully 602 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,640 inspire other groups and residents to 603 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,400 think of projects that might fall into 604 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,200 one of the four four approved categories 605 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,760 for next year's consideration. 606 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,080 Looking at the long list of applications 607 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,320 and applicants, one thing stands out 608 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960 loud and clear. We're a town that comes 609 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,039 together as volunteers for the things 610 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,200 that we cherish about Rockport and want 611 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600 to continue for the next generation. 612 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,159 It's why we live here. 613 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:15,200 >> Thank you. 614 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,919 >> Uh thank you, Miss George. 615 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:21,188 Any further discussion? 616 00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:22,880 [applause] 617 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Any further discussion? Seeing none, I 618 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,083 sense you're ready to vote. The 619 00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:28,159 [clears throat] question is whether to 620 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:30,400 receive the report that you just 621 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,799 received. It requires a majority vote. 622 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,720 All those in favor say I. 623 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,279 >> I. 624 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,159 >> Opposed say no. That carries and it is 625 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:40,720 unanimous. On to article D, first 626 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,679 motion. 627 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:46,320 Mr. Moderator, article D, first motion. 628 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,799 CPC chair Ruth George moves article D 629 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,000 first motion printed on page 20 of the 630 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,039 September 14th, 2026 falltown meeting 631 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,960 voters booklet. The select board and the 632 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,080 community preservation committee 633 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,880 recommend. 634 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,600 >> Second. 635 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,520 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 636 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,679 whether to transfer $83,200 637 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:07,279 from [clears throat] CPC estimated 638 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,840 annual revenues to the community housing 639 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240 reserve account as set forth on page 20 640 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,559 of the booklet. It requires a majority 641 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,559 vote. Miss George, 642 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,200 >> this is the 10% that is mandated by the 643 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,279 state that is put into each of the 644 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,520 categories at the beginning of the year. 645 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760 So that is why this is our estimated 646 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,039 revenue. So the 10% is 83,200. 647 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,440 going into each of the accounts. 648 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,919 >> Thank you, Miss George. Any further 649 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,000 discussion? 650 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,400 Seeing none, I send you ready to vote. 651 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 All those in favor say I. 652 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,600 >> Opposed say no. That motion carries and 653 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320 it is unanimous. Second motion. 654 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,400 >> Mr. Moderator CPC Chair Ruth George 655 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480 moves second motion for article D as 656 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,799 printed on page 20 of the September 657 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,960 14th, 2026 falltown meeting voters 658 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,640 booklet. Select board and community 659 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,080 preservation committee recommend this 660 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,799 article. 661 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:01,600 >> Seconded. 662 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,120 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 663 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:07,120 whether to transfer the same sum $83,200 664 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,679 from the CPC estimated annual revenues 665 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:12,559 to the CPC open space recreation reserve 666 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,960 account as set forth on page 20. Miss 667 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,760 George. 668 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600 >> Again, same thing. It's the 10% that 669 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 we're mandated to put into each account. 670 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,720 >> Right. Any further discussion? Yes, 671 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,640 ma'am. Miss Mada, uh, we can get a mic 672 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,679 to you or you can come down whatever you prefer. Could one of our 673 00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:30,559 runners bring a mic? 674 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:48,470 >> Thank you, Molly. 675 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,279 Try the clicker. 676 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,880 >> Hello there. 677 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360 >> Thank you. Don't be scared. This is not 678 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,399 a bad motion. Uh this is a motion that I 679 00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,720 expect to be told cannot be voted on 680 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360 today, but I'm going to make the motion 681 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,840 in anticipation of being told it can't 682 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,919 be voted. 683 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:10,240 My goal was to bring to town meeting 684 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,720 discussion of open space community 685 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,799 preservation 686 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,320 not about what you've done in the past 687 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,080 but what I think what needs to be done 688 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,360 in the future and that's preserving the 689 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,240 open space and the nature and the sounds 690 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640 of nature in Rockport. So my motion was 691 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360 going to be 692 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,159 for my motion is I'm anticipating it be 693 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:39,360 turned down and thank you for your 694 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,399 discussion of this. 695 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:41,679 >> Sure. Oh, I'm gonna have to do it 696 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:46,480 without running. The motion is 697 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240 awkward because of the manner of the 698 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,799 need to uh present it as a financial 699 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,880 motion that these funds not be spent 700 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,320 unless there is a prohibition 701 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,120 on outdoor amplified sound 702 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,360 that carries on public open spaces, 703 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,159 specifically Front Beach, because I 704 00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:12,960 happen to know Front Beach well. I do 705 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,799 anticipate other people have issues with 706 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,640 other beaches. 707 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720 I was going to make that motion. One 708 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,799 can't make a motion like that that 709 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,440 constrains the selectmen from town 710 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720 meeting. I cannot ask you to vote. Tell 711 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,799 the selectmen don't issue those 712 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,120 entertainment licenses. 713 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,919 They issued one this year for exactly 714 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,919 that space. 715 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:37,760 That's not my concern. It's the one next 716 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080 to it where the gazebo is. Everybody 717 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,399 know Front Beach and the Stone Gazbo. 718 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:45,679 Imagine that location having a wedding 719 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:49,279 every single weekend day all summer and 720 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,520 not being able to hear the ocean. So 721 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,760 that was my motion. I think it merits 722 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000 discussion at a different time. I'll be 723 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,240 turned down now. It may be a zoning 724 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720 issue because it can't be done by the 725 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,960 selectman perhaps and I don't want to 726 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520 interfere with my place by the sea. Rock 727 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,279 on. So that's my motion. I look forward 728 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,600 to discussing it in another setting and 729 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,360 thank you for your work, Miss George. 730 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,600 >> Uh thank you, Mday. That is correct. I 731 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,559 have had to rule that uh motion to amend 732 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,000 beyond the scope of the article and 733 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,440 therefore we will not be taking up for 734 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,559 discussion, but I appreciate the 735 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,480 advanced notice. Thank you very much. 736 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,559 All right, so back to the main motion 737 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,120 made by Miss George on the 83,000. Any 738 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,080 further discussion? 739 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,281 Seeing none, I sent you ready to vote. 740 00:31:34,281 --> 00:31:36,710 [clears throat] 741 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200 The question again was 742 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,919 whether to transfer $83,200 743 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,000 from annual revenues, estimated annual 744 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,559 revenues to open space recreation 745 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,480 requires a majority vote. All those in 746 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,480 favor say I. I. 747 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440 >> Opposed say no. That motion carries and 748 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,310 it is unanimous. Third motion. 749 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,960 » Mr. Moderator CPC Chair Ruth George 750 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840 moves article D, third motion as printed 751 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,080 on page 20 in the Falltown meeting 752 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,840 voters booklet. Select board and 753 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,880 community preservation committee 754 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,000 recommend the motion. 755 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,039 >> Seconded. 756 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,640 >> Moved and seconded. The question is to 757 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,159 whether to transfer that same amount 758 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:15,760 83,200 759 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,159 from estimated annual revenues to CPC 760 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:19,919 historic preservation. Again, as 761 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:22,000 outlined on page 20 of your booklets, it 762 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,640 requires a majority vote. Miss George, 763 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,399 >> same thing. 83,200 is the 10% that we 764 00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:31,360 mandated to put in to the account. 765 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,960 >> Thank you. Any further discussion? 766 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,399 Seeing none, I sense you're ready to 767 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:39,519 vote. All those in favor say I. 768 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,000 >> Oppose say no. That motion carries and 769 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:49,669 it is unanimous. On to article E. 770 00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:52,159 » Mr. Moderator. Article E first motion. 771 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:54,320 CPC Chair Ruth George moves article E 772 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,279 first motion as printed on page 22 of 773 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,519 the falltown meeting voters booklet. The 774 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:00,799 select board and the community 775 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,720 preservation committee recommend. 776 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,840 >> Second. 777 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,360 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 778 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,039 whether to appropriate and transfer 779 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,480 $200,000 from the CPC on designated fund 780 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,159 to be expended by the Thatcher and 781 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:14,320 Straitsmith Island Committee relating to 782 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,159 the Thatcher Island South Tower as 783 00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:18,159 outlined on page 22 of the voters's 784 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:20,559 booklet. It requires a majority vote. 785 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,559 Miss George 786 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,440 >> Thatcha Island South Tower phase 2 787 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,960 200,000. 788 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880 This project falls under both historic 789 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 preservation, open space, and 790 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600 recreational land. This is the third 791 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,679 installment request for this specific 792 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:38,320 project. The twin lighouses were built 793 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320 in 1861. 794 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,159 The iron rails and their stansion 795 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,480 anchors on the granite parapets have 796 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880 been rustjacking, a process in which the 797 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,039 rusting iron expands and cracks the 798 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,440 granite blocks into which each stansion 799 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,080 anchor is inserted. This has weakened 800 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,480 the outside parapet walkways on both 801 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,039 decks. Because the parapets support the 802 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:00,880 upper portion of the tower, their 803 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,799 continued disintegration could result in 804 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,279 a catastrophic loss of the light, the 805 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,880 lantern room, and [snorts] the galley 806 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,879 deck below. The lighthouse contractor IC 807 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:12,639 Commonwealth 808 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,359 has has estimated that this will be a 809 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:18,560 $1.6 to2 million with projected 810 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,599 escalation cost. This project will 811 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,159 probably require the entire top to be 812 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,639 taken off by helicopter and replaced 813 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,040 when work is completed. This is 814 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,679 estimated to take a full threemon season 815 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,560 to complete. This will only be needed 816 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,119 for the south tower. The North Tower is 817 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,879 owned by the US Fish and Wildlife 818 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:41,119 Service, which has committed to raising 819 00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,280 the funds and doing the repairs for that 820 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,320 tower in the next few years. When this 821 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,879 was first presented to CPC, Thatcher 822 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:52,000 Island Town Committee and the associated 823 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,960 association committed to work to raising 824 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,760 a matching million dollars via local 825 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560 fundraising, applying for grants and 826 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,119 foundations that supported this type of 827 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,160 project. So far into their third year, 828 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,280 they have raised over 605,000 829 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200 themselves 830 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,800 exclusively of CPC's money. Thatcher 831 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,079 Island is 52 acres. They average 3,000 832 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,800 visitors a year. The island was deed to 833 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,839 the town of Rockport in 2011. The 834 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:26,000 Thatcher Island and Straitsmith Island 835 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,839 Committee and the Thatcher Island and 836 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:30,640 Straitsmith Island Association have 837 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,000 invested over 4.5 million to maintain 838 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,119 and preserve the townowned property. 839 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,880 Failure to continue could cause the 840 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200 National Historic Landmark designation 841 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,240 by the park services to be lost and the 842 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,160 ownership revert back to the federal 843 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,560 government. The Thatcher Island 844 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,680 Committee has 1,200 members and has over 845 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,680 115 volunteers that provide inind labor 846 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880 to restore and preserve the property. As 847 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Dr. Wedma would say, that's a lot of 848 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,720 sweat equity out there. In 2025, the 849 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,280 volunteers contributed over 6,000 hours 850 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,839 of labor to maintain and preserve both 851 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:11,280 islands. 852 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,040 Twin Lights and Thatcher Island are 853 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520 featured on our town seal because of the 854 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680 historic significance they represent to 855 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,560 us all. Fundraising will continue over 856 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640 the next two years as they hope to have 857 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,599 the project done in 2029. 858 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,520 They are continually looking at ways to 859 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,320 do smaller projects with volunteers and 860 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,240 saving up money towards this large 861 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,760 restoration project. If passed tonight, 862 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,720 this will make 600,000 granted to CPC 863 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,880 for this project with their current 864 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,320 fundraising totaling 605 with two more 865 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,520 years to go. Wow. 866 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,079 Thank you. 867 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,190 >> Thank you, Miss George. Any discussion? 868 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,720 All right, seeing none, I sent you ready 869 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,280 to vote. Briefly, the question before 870 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,560 you is whether to appropriate and 871 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,119 transfer $200,000 from the undesated 872 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,240 fund for the Thatcher Island South Tower 873 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,160 as set forth on page 22 of your 874 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560 booklets. It requires a majority vote. 875 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,359 All those in favor say I. 876 00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:14,960 >> Oppose say no. That motion passes and it 877 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,320 is unanimous. Second motion. 878 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,400 >> Mr. Moderator, CPC Chair Ruth George 879 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,720 moves article E. Second motion is 880 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,119 printed on page 22 of the fall town 881 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,960 meeting voters booklet. The select board 882 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,400 and community preservation committee 883 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,440 recommend this. 884 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,800 >> Seconded. 885 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,320 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 886 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400 whether to appropriate and transfer 887 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880 $87,800 888 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,800 from the historic preservation reserve 889 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440 account to be expended as a grant under 890 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000 the direction of the select board 891 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,760 relating to the first parish burial 892 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,079 ground and her on and hurse house on 893 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,480 beach street as set forth on page 22 of 894 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,480 the voters's booklet. It requires a 895 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,560 majority vote. Miss George, 896 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,560 >> thank you. Old first parish bureau 897 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,520 ground 87,800. 898 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,200 This project falls on historic 899 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,599 resources. This application was 900 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,359 submitted by the Sandy Bay Historical 901 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:08,000 Society last year that we awarded them 902 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,880 62,000. And this additional application 903 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040 amount is to complete the second phase 904 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,079 of the renovation project. This is the 905 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,079 graveyard across from Front Beach. And 906 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:19,839 the property was given to the town by 907 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:25,119 Richard Cha, a first settler in 1690 908 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,240 who was buried there in 1732. 909 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,320 Here also lie most of the first settlers 910 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400 and many of the officers and soldiers of 911 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,160 the French Indian revolutionary and 1812 912 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,359 wars as well as civil war. Other 913 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:41,520 notables that were buried there include 914 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,040 13 veterans of the revolution of 13 915 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000 veterans and revolutionary war soldiers, 916 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,560 the Seville, the Abbotts, Nolton's 917 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,040 well-known names in town. Another 918 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,119 prominent citizen of Rockport, Hannah 919 00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,079 Jumper was buried there in 1865. 920 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,480 We all remember Hannah in our Rockport 921 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,359 history. She She's notable for why 922 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:08,079 Rockport was dry for the next 162 years. 923 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:09,839 The initial application had several 924 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:12,960 goals. gravestone cleaning, gravestone 925 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,800 repairs, the hearse house, education, 926 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,000 signage, walkway, and the terra 927 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,119 centennial terentennial marker, which 928 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:24,960 was already completed by the Sandy Bay 929 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000 Historical and the DPW. 930 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,760 This past year, they've done extensive 931 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,280 cleaning under the direction of Rob 932 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,800 Subar Seiran with groups of volunteers. 933 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,560 They have also done several walking 934 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,240 tours of the graveyard, telling 935 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,400 fascinating stories about some of the 11 936 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,119 soldiers buried there. Rob has also 937 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,119 worked on gravestones that have fallen 938 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,320 over or sunken, and is rewriting them. 939 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,400 The signage planned changed from 940 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,880 engraving the front stone wall, which 941 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,800 already has the marker out front 942 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,280 denoting the graveyard, to a wooden sign 943 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,839 at the middle lane entrance, and a 944 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:02,000 repaired and gated and repaired and 945 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,960 painted gate. This sign is the same as 946 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040 used at both the Union and Beach Grove 947 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,880 cemeteries in town. This back entrance 948 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040 on Mil Lane side has since been 949 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,960 completely cleaned up and replanted by 950 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,760 the neighbors. Now that the cemetery is 951 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,760 being spruced up, the whole neighborhood 952 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,599 is looking nice and everyone's taking 953 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,960 great pride in that. It looks amazing. 954 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,880 This additional ask will be to continue 955 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,839 the grave repairs and cleaning to work 956 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:31,599 on the and then also work on the 957 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,000 educational component of having a living 958 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,760 history tutorial um where they'll put a 959 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,440 QR code on the Hurst House building and 960 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,599 then people can click on that and do a 961 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:47,119 self-guided tour of um the prop the uh 962 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,040 entrance. 963 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,359 Um, we also they're going to um repair 964 00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:55,520 the Hurst House building, keeping it 965 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,839 true to its original historic detail 966 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,480 without any additional adornments. That 967 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,000 first they had talked about putting a 968 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160 coupler on the top, but that really 969 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,400 isn't part of the original structure, so 970 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,119 we're not having that allowed. They also 971 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,880 will work with the town on regrading 972 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520 some of the uneven grass areas of the 973 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,359 cemetery. Thank you. 974 00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,200 >> Thank you, Miss George. Further 975 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,150 discussion? 976 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,520 All right, seeing none, I sense you're 977 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,560 ready to vote. The [clears throat] 978 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,240 question is whether to transfer 979 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,720 appropriate and transfer $87,800 from 980 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:29,280 the preservation reserve account uh to 981 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,800 be expended as a grant relating to the 982 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,800 burial ground in Hurst House. Let's 983 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,319 raise a glass to Hannah jumper. It 984 00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:36,480 requires a majority vote. All those in 985 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,760 favor say I. 986 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,319 >> I. 987 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:40,480 >> Oppose say no. 988 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,400 >> That motion carries by more than a 989 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,560 majority vote. Third motion. 990 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,800 >> Mr. Moderator CPC Chair Ruth George 991 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,079 moves article E3 third motion as printed 992 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,160 on page 22 of the falltown meeting 993 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,839 voters booklet select board and 994 00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:55,040 community preservation committee 995 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,720 recommend. 996 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,079 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 997 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,000 whether to appropriate a total of 998 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,240 $238,000 999 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:06,079 with 170,000 from estimated revenues and 1000 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,480 68,000 from the affordable housing 1001 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,560 reserve account to be placed in the 1002 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,640 affordable housing trust fund for 1003 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,480 purposes consistent with the community 1004 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,760 preservation act as set forth on page 22 1005 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,680 of the voters's booklet. It requires a 1006 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,280 majority vote. Miss George 1007 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,800 >> 238,000 1008 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000 community um housing affordable housing 1009 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,240 trust. This is the third request for 1010 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,000 money to support the Rockwood affordable 1011 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,839 housing trust in town since it 1012 00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:36,640 originated. They are relatively new 1013 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,800 group that is working hard to find much 1014 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,760 needed access to build or renovate areas 1015 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,599 to assist in our need for additional 1016 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,720 housing for seniors, small families or 1017 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:48,720 singles or others who struggle with high 1018 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,920 cost of affordable housing in town. Over 1019 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,839 the past three years, they have looked 1020 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:56,400 at and evaluated many options, but at 1021 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,640 the present time, there is no specific 1022 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,920 site or plan on the table. This is a 1023 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,839 category that CPC specifically 1024 00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:06,400 stipulates that money can be given to 1025 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,599 without a specific property attached. 1026 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,119 This fund is very much like the 1027 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,839 conservation committee on commission in 1028 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:16,319 that money is awarded kept in a reserve 1029 00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:19,599 account and when appropriate project is 1030 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,359 um found it is available and given um 1031 00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:26,319 via the board of selectment approval. 1032 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:28,800 Over this past year, several sites were 1033 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,119 brought forward and extensive reviews 1034 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,359 were done to the properties, but as of 1035 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:34,960 this date, nothing has been passed 1036 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,520 forward or is on the table as a current 1037 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,800 viable housing option. This is a slow 1038 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800 process, but needs to be right for 1039 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,680 Rockport and its residents. This year's 1040 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,000 original application was for $500,000. 1041 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,839 After considerable discussion with the 1042 00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:54,720 committee and CPC, it was decided to 1043 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,200 grant 238,000 1044 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,800 to bring their coffers up to 1045 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,839 approximately 1 million that included 1046 00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,880 previous CPC funding, ARPER funds, and 1047 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,560 community impact fees. The CPC members 1048 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,640 all feel this is a very important use of 1049 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,119 funding to be in a good position to act 1050 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,119 if the project is a right fit for the 1051 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,240 town. We as a town need to have money 1052 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,440 available to put forward if and when we 1053 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,440 are in a position to move forward on 1054 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,480 this much needed housing in Rockport. 1055 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,040 Thank you. 1056 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,880 >> Thank you, Miss George. Any further 1057 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200 discussion? 1058 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,630 Mr. Arcinian, 1059 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,079 you can come up to the mic or we can get 1060 00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:41,910 you one. You're coming up. Okay. 1061 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,200 » Toby are sending a 95 Granite Street. Uh 1062 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,280 I'll venture that most of us are in 1063 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,400 favor of affordable housing. But what is 1064 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040 in prospect here is not affordable 1065 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,079 housing. It is not the fault of Diane 1066 00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:58,800 Bella and the affordable housing trust. 1067 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960 It is the curse of the state and their 1068 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,880 definition of what constitutes 1069 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,920 affordable housing. Uh their definition 1070 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,200 is both dishonest and heartless. is 1071 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,839 based on the area community uh average 1072 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:17,200 community income and uh starts with 1073 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,960 $80,000 1074 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,040 up to $80,000 for individuals uh over 1075 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,560 $130,000 1076 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,359 for a family with four and totally 1077 00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:29,440 leaves out the interests of those who 1078 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,599 earn minimum wage which would give you 1079 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,280 $31,000 a year. The housing trust 1080 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,359 admirably say that they would like to 1081 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,760 provide housing for people in all 1082 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,040 housing categories that qualify. They 1083 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,000 are most unlikely to be able to do so. 1084 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,160 Right from the beginning, they have said 1085 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,240 that they would not be building the 1086 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,000 housing. They would work with the 1087 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920 developer to provide the housing. as yet 1088 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000 they've get have not secured a 1089 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,960 developer, have not got got one into 1090 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,160 their clutches or no developer has got 1091 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040 them into their clutches. But when it 1092 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160 happens, they negotiate. It's not the 1093 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,079 community pre. It's not up to the 1094 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,560 committee to com negotiate. It's up to 1095 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200 the board of selectmen. In practice, it 1096 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,359 would probably be the town administrator 1097 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:22,079 and town council. And there would be a 1098 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,319 great deal of pressure on them to say 1099 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,200 yes to any sort of project. It having 1100 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,119 been a long time. In order to qualify as 1101 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,040 affordable housing, it has to be 1102 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,119 affordable for only 30 years. Then if it 1103 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,920 belongs to a a developer, has been built 1104 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,200 by one, it would be market rate. This 1105 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,839 has already happened in this town with 1106 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:48,480 the housing on Curtis Street, the Pigeon 1107 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,560 Cove Ledges. uh that was funded as a a 1108 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,079 40B project and after the 30 years it 1109 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,720 would have gone market rate had harbor 1110 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,599 light not step forward to buy it. 1111 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,000 Community preservation funds went into 1112 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,359 that. So it's a real threat and I asked 1113 00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,119 the board of select and in public 1114 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,119 comment if they would make a commitment 1115 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,480 that any money that we 1116 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319 >> Mr. and you've got 30 seconds just so 1117 00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:15,760 you can focus your remarks 1118 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,760 >> that any money that would go into 1119 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,520 affordable housing would be for 1120 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,160 permanently affordable housing. They 1121 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,720 cannot the board of selectmen make that 1122 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,800 commitment. 1123 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,119 >> Thank you, Mr. Arinian. Any further 1124 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,470 discussion? 1125 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,319 All right, 1126 00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,400 seeing none, 1127 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,839 the question again is whether to 1128 00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,560 appropriate a total of $238,000 1129 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,800 from the housing from uh estimated 1130 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,119 revenues in the housing reserve account 1131 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,119 uh for the affordable housing trust as 1132 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,119 set forth in page 22. It requires a 1133 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,480 majority vote. All those in favor say I. 1134 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,640 >> Oppose say no. 1135 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,280 >> That motion passes by a majority vote. 1136 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,349 On to the fourth motion. 1137 00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:03,520 » Mr. Moderator CPC Chair Ruth George 1138 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160 moves article E4th motion as printed on 1139 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,560 page 23 of the falltown meeting voters 1140 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,560 booklet. Select board and community 1141 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,319 preservation committee recommend. 1142 00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:13,359 >> Second. 1143 00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:14,800 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 1144 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,880 whether to appropriate and transfer 1145 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,319 $100,000 from the CPC open space and 1146 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:22,400 recreation reserve account to be 1147 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,520 expended by the DPW relating to treecape 1148 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,319 restoration as set forth on page 23 of 1149 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,079 your booklets. It requires a majority 1150 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,319 vote. Miss George 1151 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:35,680 >> Rockport tree project 100,000. This 1152 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,559 project falls under open space. This 1153 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,559 application was submitted from a citizen 1154 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:43,280 group called the Rockport Tree Project. 1155 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,119 The goal of this application is to 1156 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,280 restore RPOut's historic treecovered 1157 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,480 landscape of the 18th, 19th, and 20th 1158 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040 centuries to its former beauty by 1159 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,200 creating a tree covered canopy all 1160 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,520 throughout the downtown area that will 1161 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,280 once again shade the streets and 1162 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,839 beautify our landscape and clean the air 1163 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:05,040 of our historic downtown on Main Street, 1164 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,599 Broadway, School Street, Beach Street, 1165 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,240 and Mount Pleasant. Rockport pictures 1166 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,480 show all the large maples, elms, 1167 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440 chestnuts, oaks, and sycamores that once 1168 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680 lined the streets. They were selected 1169 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,240 for their huge height, spreading canopy, 1170 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,640 and longevity, and many, if not most, 1171 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,520 live well beyond 100 years. Today, 1172 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160 nearly all of that is gone, and few 1173 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,000 large trees remain at all in the 1174 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,720 downtown neighborhoods. The tree group 1175 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,720 has done a lot of homework looking at to 1176 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,880 what other similar towns have done into 1177 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,599 their downtown areas for trees. They 1178 00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:42,079 have also had had names of consultants 1179 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,400 that had done similar work in in smaller 1180 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,559 town like ours planning a tree 1181 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,839 restoration project. Their original ask 1182 00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:54,630 was for $315,000 1183 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,599 and was listed under historic open space 1184 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,160 and recreational categories. 1185 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,240 On first presentation, all on the 1186 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,760 committee thought this was a very 1187 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,240 worthwhile Rockport project and it would 1188 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,200 get great backing from town residents. 1189 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,160 But exactly what and how could CPC fund 1190 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,559 this? They did have a support letter 1191 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:19,440 from the historic commission in town. 1192 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,160 Our lead state CPC coalition was called 1193 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,800 and consulted and they felt that trees 1194 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,599 were not an historic resource. 1195 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,480 open space, yes, but they felt downtown 1196 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,319 area was not a designated open space. 1197 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,319 This group worked with a consultant who 1198 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:38,319 did a similar project in Massachusetts, 1199 00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:40,960 like I previously said, and they paid 1200 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,640 themselves for a $25,000 study of 1201 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,040 downtown Rockport for tree restoration 1202 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920 and planting. This study was discussed 1203 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,400 with the DPW who had questions and 1204 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,480 concerns regarding the current street 1205 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,880 widths, underground and above ground 1206 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,599 utilities and sidewalk size on our 1207 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,480 narrow streets. But it all agreed it was 1208 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,760 a great project. 1209 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,720 So how to get the town project going? We 1210 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,400 went back to the group and discussed 1211 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,720 using just open space category 1212 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,480 in CPC as a way to go. a first step to 1213 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,359 get this wonderful project underway and 1214 00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:24,640 going. After discussion, the Rockport 1215 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,440 tree project group resubmitted a revised 1216 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160 application. The revised goal is to 1217 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,319 plant new trees at sites within the 1218 00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,559 town, which will improve the quality of 1219 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,280 life throughout open spaces in Rockport 1220 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,280 for Rockport residents and visitors 1221 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,240 alike. Adding a significant number of 1222 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,960 locally sustainable shade trees will 1223 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,359 upgrade everyone's outdoor recreational 1224 00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,839 experience and enjoyment. 1225 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:51,839 Examples of locations for plannings 1226 00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:54,319 could be, but are not limited to Front 1227 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:57,599 Beach, the Bandstand area, Harvey Park, 1228 00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,960 Barleta Park, Old Garden Beach, Pingry 1229 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,359 Park, the Headlands, and Milberg Park 1230 00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:04,880 areas. 1231 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,720 This would be done using qualified 1232 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,040 consultants familiar with the kind of 1233 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,319 plantings identifying locations, types 1234 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:14,880 and size of suitable trees for Rockwood 1235 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,839 and its windy coastal location. This 1236 00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:19,520 will be done under the direction of the 1237 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,160 DPW which has the final decision 1238 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,040 regarding plantings. This will also 1239 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,200 address planting and watering of the 1240 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,160 trees for one to two years or more to 1241 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,720 make sure they get a good start. 1242 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,680 Great first step for trees in Rockport. 1243 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160 This project group is applying for a 1244 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,720 nonprofit status to raise additional 1245 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,119 money to assist the town in additional 1246 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,359 tree plantings throughout town not 1247 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:48,559 covered under CPC guidelines. 1248 00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:49,359 Thank you. 1249 00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,040 >> Uh thank you, Miss George. Further 1250 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,000 discussion? 1251 00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,150 Anyone else? Mr. Arinia. 1252 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,240 And I'm not disrespecting Mr. Arcinian. 1253 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,920 Remember I said preference will be given 1254 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,440 to voters who haven't spoken yet. That's 1255 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,079 the only reason I asked that. 1256 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:11,599 >> Toby Arcenian 95 Granite Street. Um 1257 00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,599 right at the beginning uh when the 1258 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,760 project was presented to the community 1259 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,480 preservation uh the proponents had 1260 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,559 already hired their consultants at a 1261 00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,640 cost of $25,000 1262 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,440 their money. And it turns out that it is 1263 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,520 the consultants who will get to choose 1264 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,040 what sort of trees uh will be planted. 1265 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,040 Uh certainly you need people who are 1266 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,440 professional and expert to decide what 1267 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,920 sort of trees could survive in the 1268 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,640 various places. That's rightly the first 1269 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,040 step. The second step which will be 1270 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,240 missing in this program is that we the 1271 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,160 voters who are paying for it get to 1272 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,480 choose what sort of trees that we would 1273 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520 like. That's not part of it. I think the 1274 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,240 whole approach is mistaken. When Peter 1275 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,559 Cutner was explaining the project to the 1276 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,960 planning board, he the planning 1277 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,440 consultant Betsy Wear volunteered that 1278 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,359 in Winchester where she had been 1279 00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:08,000 planner, they planted a great many more 1280 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,839 trees, smaller ones at much less cost. 1281 00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:14,400 And it was a community effort. We're 1282 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,200 talking about community preservation. 1283 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,520 there. The scouts, the Rotary, and so 1284 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,559 forth volunteered and planted the trees. 1285 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,040 That could happen here, too. We could 1286 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,680 save our money and give money next year 1287 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,480 in the spring to the DPW. 1288 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,200 They have the equipment. Nathan Ives and 1289 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,240 his group have the expertise and many 1290 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:38,400 people care about trees and would 1291 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,280 volunteer. I'm against it. 1292 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,200 >> Thank you, Mr. Arinian. Yes, sir. 1293 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,640 And we got a microphone coming to you 1294 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,319 and then we'll go to 1295 00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:51,920 >> Bill. Let her give you the mic because 1296 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,359 some people aren't going to hear you. 1297 00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:55,520 >> Okay. 1298 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,280 >> Bill Lee, 25 Pleasant Street and TF. 1299 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,400 I have a um thing written here. Within 1300 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,000 less than a month after the 1301 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,319 incorporation of the town of Rockport in 1302 00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:07,839 1642, 1303 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:10,880 the voters brought in place restrictions 1304 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,119 upon cutting trees in the trees in the 1305 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,520 town of Rockport. I'm in favor of this 1306 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000 project. One of the first as this next 1307 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,559 paragraph, the first recorded 1308 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,440 restriction, I mean regulation was 1309 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,160 passed in June 1642 1310 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,839 to keep the trees in the town of 1311 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:29,680 Rockport. So the people of town of 1312 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,559 Rockport voted in 1642 1313 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,280 to keep trees coming to Rockport. So I 1314 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520 am very much in favor of this project 1315 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,119 and I think it's a good start. We've 1316 00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,880 lost a lot of trees for a lot of 1317 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,800 different reasons, but we need to get 1318 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,480 the trees back. 1319 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,433 >> Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Lee. Mr. 1320 00:55:46,433 --> 00:55:51,990 [clears throat] Ives, 1321 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,640 » Nathan Ives, 98 South Street, also a 1322 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,799 member of the tree uh committee that's 1323 00:55:56,799 --> 00:56:00,160 worked on this project. Um 1324 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,400 with all due respect to Mr. Arinian, 1325 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,720 he's been um he's raised this this 1326 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,720 concern a number of times and each time 1327 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,960 we've reasserted that this is going to 1328 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,640 be very public and open and inquiring of 1329 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,319 the public as to which trees they'd like 1330 00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,160 to have in different areas. Of course, 1331 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,920 you have to take in consideration to 1332 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040 site, height, wind, uh all kinds of 1333 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,760 conditions that will dictate what you 1334 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,599 know narrow the field of trees for any 1335 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,920 particular site, but public input will 1336 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,599 be a great part of this process. Please 1337 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:33,200 be reassured. Thank you, Mr. Ives. Any 1338 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,000 further discussion? 1339 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,599 All right. 1340 00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,880 >> Oh, hang on. Sorry. Where? 1341 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,920 Oh, Miss Ma. Yes. 1342 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,599 And name and address, please. Thank you. 1343 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,760 Jamie Mada Hullber Court to Holbert 1344 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,280 Court. U my question, it's a question, 1345 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,559 not a um an outright opposition. 1346 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:57,200 You've mentioned a number of specific 1347 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,160 locations and some of them have had real 1348 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,960 concerns and discussions about the 1349 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,880 location of trees. The example is 1350 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,599 Milbrook Meadow. It is used been 1351 00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,480 tremendously restored, beautifully, beautifully done. And thank 1352 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,240 you the garden club, too. Not that I was 1353 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,319 on the committee or anything. Uh the 1354 00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:17,359 trees though came up almost as though it 1355 00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:19,040 was going to be by fiat. Yeah, we're 1356 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200 going to put a whole line of trees along 1357 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,040 the walkway through the meadow. And it 1358 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,640 took a lot of effort in front of the 1359 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,720 selectman to make it clear no. A lot of 1360 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,880 people like to play there to run there. 1361 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,720 They don't want a line of trees 1362 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,680 preventing the use of that open space. 1363 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,680 Could you say just a little bit more 1364 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,680 about this gentleman's statement that 1365 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,359 there will be very open dialogue about 1366 00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:45,760 where trees are going to go? Thank you 1367 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,240 very much. 1368 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,920 >> Thank you, Miss Mao. Let's see. But Miss 1369 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,200 George, before I go to you, let's see if 1370 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,799 there's anyone else so we can maybe tee 1371 00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:52,160 something up if there's anything else. 1372 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,760 Any further discussion before I go to 1373 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,799 Miss George on that point? 1374 00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:02,470 >> Yes, ma'am. 1375 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,680 Hi Kim Anderson 52 Stockholm A and I 1376 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,200 love the idea of having a bunch more 1377 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,040 trees in the town. I think it would be 1378 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,760 absolutely beautiful. My only concern is 1379 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,400 our water rates have just gone way up. 1380 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,430 We're in the middle of a drought. 1381 00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:18,000 [snorts] How are we going to care for 1382 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,480 these trees if the drought doesn't close 1383 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,240 down? I mean, are water rates going to 1384 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,119 go even higher so that we as homeowners 1385 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,079 can help pay for the trees? 1386 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,480 >> Just a question. Okay. Thank you. Any 1387 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,880 further discussion before I return to 1388 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,799 the CPC? 1389 00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,960 All right. Seeing none, Miss George. 1390 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,559 >> Um to address your um comment, Jamie, um 1391 00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,200 we just looked at areas that are open 1392 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,920 space. We did put Millbrook, but they're 1393 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,240 pretty much have their open space area. 1394 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,960 The thing we were trying to address were 1395 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,440 areas like Old Garden Beach, Front 1396 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,280 Beach, places like that that a lot of us 1397 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,359 in this room would like to go sit on a 1398 00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:02,319 summer day, but not in the blazing sun. 1399 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:04,400 We need some trees in those areas like 1400 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,480 up by the parking lot at Old Garden 1401 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,040 Beach. Something maybe over by the side 1402 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,520 of Front Beach by Captain what used to 1403 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,040 be Captain's Bounty or whatever it is 1404 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,240 now. um a set of a tree over there where 1405 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,119 people can have some shade and get get 1406 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,559 this tree project started with some open 1407 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,680 space areas. Not specifically those it 1408 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,040 will be discussed through DPW and the D 1409 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,680 um the tree group of where everything 1410 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,359 will go and it will be a very public 1411 00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:35,760 process I'm sure. 1412 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,960 >> All right. Thank you, Miss George. 1413 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,960 >> Um did I hear somebody? We got a hand. 1414 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,839 responsible. 1415 00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:45,520 >> Oh yeah, Miss George, can you address 1416 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,520 that if you can? If you can. 1417 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,920 >> I mean, it's certainly a concern. It's 1418 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,319 certainly a concern, but we will, you 1419 00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:54,799 know, at and at that point, um, I would 1420 00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:57,680 assume maybe with the funding of the 1421 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,440 tree group that they will pay to have a 1422 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,160 company come in and water and it will be 1423 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,400 their cost of the watering, not the 1424 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,359 towns, I would assume. 1425 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:10,960 >> And and when would this go into effect, 1426 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,280 Miss George? Excuse me. 1427 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,119 >> When when would this project actually be 1428 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,359 funded and be underway? 1429 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,040 >> Money wouldn't be available to the 1430 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,799 beginning of the year and then it would 1431 01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:22,640 probably be at least 6 months or more 1432 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,640 till they get figured out of where some 1433 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,280 might go and there's open discussion of 1434 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,760 what's going to happen and everything. 1435 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,599 So, it wouldn't be right off. 1436 01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:37,510 >> All right. Any further discussion? 1437 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,440 » And I'm told someone's in the back, but 1438 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,151 I can't see. Okay. Thank you. 1439 01:00:43,151 --> 01:00:44,799 >> [clears throat and cough] 1440 01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:46,880 >> Harry Cororsland. I'm going to uh I'm at 1441 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,839 two Green Street. Um I'd like to request 1442 01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:52,400 that this vote be conducted by clicker 1443 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,400 along with the subsequent votes coming 1444 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,359 up. 1445 01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:57,200 >> Well, I'll take the subsequent votes as 1446 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,720 they come, but I'm more than happy to go 1447 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,160 through to use the clickers for the 1448 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,950 vote. Any further discussion? 1449 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,960 » All right. [clears throat] Seeing none, 1450 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,559 I sense you're ready to vote. There's 1451 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,079 been a request which I will honor to 1452 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:13,520 vote by electronic means. 1453 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,200 The question before you is whether to 1454 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,760 appropriate and transfer $100,000 from 1455 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,839 the CPC open space and recreation 1456 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:22,720 reserve account to be expended uh by the 1457 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,760 DPW relating to treecape restoration as 1458 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,839 set forth on page 23 of the voters's 1459 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:31,622 booklet. This requires a majority vote. 1460 01:01:31,622 --> 01:01:33,040 [clears throat] You will have 12 seconds 1461 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,440 from when I say the words vote now. You 1462 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,319 will press one or a for I if you support 1463 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:41,280 the motion. You will press two or B for 1464 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,160 no if you oppose the motion. 1465 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,559 Would anyone like me to clarify the 1466 01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:48,400 question before you or how we are 1467 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,200 voting? 1468 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,520 All right. All those in favor will press 1469 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,920 one or A for I. All [clears throat] 1470 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,240 those opposed will press two or B for 1471 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:05,760 no. Ready? Vote now. Now. Now. Now. 8 7 1472 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:14,160 6 5 4 3 2 1 stop. And that motion 1473 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,359 carries by 84% 1474 01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:23,359 to 16% and the numerical count is 150 to 1475 01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:26,319 29. That motion carries. On to the next 1476 01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:30,309 motion. 1477 01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:31,440 And I [clears throat] want to take a 1478 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,200 minute to recognize and thank the 1479 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,960 attendance of our senator in the great 1480 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,400 and general court of the Commonwealth of 1481 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,240 Massachusetts, Senator Bruce Tar, who's 1482 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,920 seated over to my right over there. 1483 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:46,150 Welcome, Senator Tar. 1484 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,160 Mr. Moderator, article E, fifth motion, 1485 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,200 CPC chair Ruth George moves fifth motion 1486 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,520 as printed on page 23 of the fall town 1487 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,520 meeting voters booklet. Select board and 1488 01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:01,270 CPC recommend. Second. 1489 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,323 » All right. Fifth motion moved 1490 01:03:03,323 --> 01:03:04,079 [clears throat] and seconded. The 1491 01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:05,599 question is whether to appropriate and 1492 01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,359 transfer $30,000 from the CPC undesated 1493 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,520 reserve account to be expended under the 1494 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,960 direction of the select board and 1495 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,359 historical commission with the CPC 1496 01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:18,480 relating to historic uh tentenary. I am 1497 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,160 sorry I cannot pronounce that the way 1498 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,000 it's supposed to be pronounced. Markers 1499 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,319 is set forth on page 23 of the voters 1500 01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:27,039 booklet. This requires a majority vote. 1501 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:29,039 Miss George, 1502 01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:30,720 >> this project falls under historic 1503 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,359 resources. This project applicant is the 1504 01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:35,839 Rockport Historic District Commission. 1505 01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:37,920 There are 15 historical markers in 1506 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,520 Rockport, seven of which are 1930 1507 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,880 turentennial markers. One, the old 1508 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,119 parish burial ground across from Front 1509 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:49,440 Beach was recently refurbished by Sandy 1510 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,720 Bay Historical and the Rockport DPW. 1511 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,760 three in town. The first settler one at 1512 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,720 133 Main Street, the John Pool House at 1513 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880 the corner of 1514 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,280 Smith and King Streets and the one at 1515 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,079 Bearskin Neck at Dock Square and Baskin 1516 01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:08,480 Neck will be refurbished. 1517 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,680 Two others, the Samuel D. Champlain one, 1518 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,599 which is at South Street and Whale Cove 1519 01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:16,160 Lane, and the Benjamin Tar House on 1520 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,640 South Street were destroyed in storms 1521 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,760 and replaced with wooden replicas. These 1522 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,599 two will be replaced with new markers 1523 01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,640 and restored to their original form. 1524 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,599 One, the old stone fort has been missing 1525 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:31,119 for many years. [snorts] 1526 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,000 Records show it was put in place at the 1527 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,839 sight of the fort at the end of Bear 1528 01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:38,000 Skin Neck on the right. There is a 1529 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,680 building marker on the building that is 1530 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,160 designated as the fort, but the wording 1531 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,160 is not the same as the turentennial 1532 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,880 marker. They will create a duplicate 1533 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,280 marker and install it at the site of the 1534 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,880 original fort. 1535 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,359 They have a 1930s article from the 1536 01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:55,920 Glouester Daily Times that notes the 1537 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,599 fort was dismantled in 1910 and the 1538 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,000 granite was used for the breakwater 1539 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,920 construction. 1540 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,720 The database of turentennial markers 1541 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,839 lists the inscription as sight of stone 1542 01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:13,760 fort erected by public subscription as a 1543 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,000 protection against British warships 1544 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,200 during the war of 1812. 1545 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,880 All the markers will be like the 1546 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,839 originals done in cast iron. They have 1547 01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,079 received several quotes and are looking 1548 01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:28,079 at once the project is approved and 1549 01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,160 money available, they will be removed 1550 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,640 and be back in place within 60 to 90 1551 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,880 days. Thank you. 1552 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,799 >> Thank you, Miss George. Further 1553 01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:39,680 discussion? 1554 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,599 >> All right. Sensing seeing none, I sent 1555 01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:53,670 you. Oh, yes, ma'am. Right here. 1556 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,039 Oh, it works. I'm Judy Lurie, Seven 1557 01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:00,160 Smith Road. I just want to say I'm very 1558 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,119 excited about this project. Um, these 1559 01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:06,240 markers are knowledge of the history 1560 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,480 that you've been talking about is so um 1561 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,640 essential to this the meaning of this 1562 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,079 town. Um, and I remember 1563 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,280 having a chat with you, Ruth, about the 1564 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,160 marker that's now illeible at the top of 1565 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,799 Whale Cove Road, which I was always 1566 01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:27,280 extremely excited about. I mean, going 1567 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,960 back to 16, what was it? 160 when Samuel 1568 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,400 de Champlain stopped by. That's 1569 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,720 extremely exciting. So, I hope it 1570 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,240 passes. 1571 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,079 >> Thank you. Any further discussion? 1572 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:43,440 All right. Seeing none, I sense you're 1573 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,039 ready to vote. Let [clears throat] me 1574 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,920 pose a question to the uh voter in the 1575 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,000 upper left. Let me explain my philosophy 1576 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,720 on the form of voting. I try to use 1577 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,559 voice votes or hand votes. If I believe 1578 01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,799 that that the decision is going to 1579 01:06:56,799 --> 01:06:58,400 clearly go one way or the other. If I 1580 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,079 ever sense that it's close or if it's 1581 01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:02,240 controversial, I use the clickers. If 1582 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,839 there's a request for clickers, I use 1583 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,000 the clickers. I do the voice and hand 1584 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,520 votes to try to keep the meeting moving 1585 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,559 along, but I'm not a dictator. So, uh, 1586 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,480 with that explanation, sir, are you 1587 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,000 insisting that we use clickers for every 1588 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,466 vote tonight? Okay. 1589 01:07:17,466 --> 01:07:19,760 [clears throat] So, 1590 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,200 the question before you was whether to 1591 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,599 appropriate and transfer $30,000 from 1592 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:27,200 the CPC undesated reserve account to be 1593 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,640 expended under the direction of the 1594 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,480 select board and historical commission 1595 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,640 as set forth on page 23 of the voters 1596 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,480 booklet. This requires a majority vote. 1597 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,960 All those in favor say I. I. 1598 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,760 >> Oppose say no. That motion pat carries 1599 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,920 and it is unanimous. Sixth motion, 1600 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,000 >> Mr. Moderator, CPC Chair Ruth George 1601 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,480 moves article E, sixth motion as printed 1602 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,799 on page 23 of the fall town meeting 1603 01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:52,480 voters booklet. Select board and 1604 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,680 community preservation committee 1605 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,400 recommend. 1606 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,000 >> Second. 1607 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,440 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 1608 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,640 whether to appropriate a total of $8,500 1609 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,319 from the historic preservation reserve 1610 01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:04,720 account to be expended by the DPW 1611 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,559 relating to the Pigeon Cove Veterans 1612 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:09,520 Memorial as set forth on page 23. It 1613 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,599 requires a majority vote. Miss George, 1614 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,280 this project falls under historic 1615 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,679 resources. The Veterans Memorial was 1616 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:21,279 built in 1945 by King and Lilia builders 1617 01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,199 as an honor role for Pigeon Cove 1618 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:26,159 enlistes. It has been cared for over the 1619 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:29,199 years by the Rockport Rotary Club. This 1620 01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,040 year, the Rotary Club has submitted an 1621 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,679 application to restore the memorial. It 1622 01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,080 is located in the Pigeon Cove Square in 1623 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,480 front of the Old Castle building at the 1624 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,040 corner of Granite and Critter Street. It 1625 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,880 holds the names of those who served in 1626 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,239 the Army, Navy, Marines, Coast Guard, 1627 01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:48,560 and Maritime Services from the Pigeon 1628 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,839 Cove area. They propose replacing the 1629 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,159 deteriorating memorial with new, more 1630 01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,719 long-lasting materials with PVC 1631 01:08:56,719 --> 01:08:59,759 composits. It will look identical to 1632 01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:02,560 what is there now. This is not for 1633 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,799 maintenance, but a completely new re 1634 01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:07,279 construction. They have letters of 1635 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:08,560 support from the commander of the 1636 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,600 American Legion, Nicholas Favaluro, and 1637 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,759 other local veterans. This has full 1638 01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:16,400 support from the Rockport Rotary. 1639 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,400 >> Thank you, Miss George. Is there any 1640 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,719 discussion? 1641 01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:22,239 Seeing none, I sense you're ready to 1642 01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:23,359 vote. The question is whether to 1643 01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,080 appropriate $8,500 from the historic 1644 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,080 preservation account for the Pigeon Cove 1645 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,480 Veterans Memorial per page 23. It 1646 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:32,239 requires a majority vote. All those in 1647 01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:33,600 favor say I. 1648 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,080 >> I. 1649 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,480 >> Oppose say no. That motion carries and 1650 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:40,319 it is unanimous. Seventh motion. 1651 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,400 >> Mr. Moderator, CPC Chair Ruth George 1652 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,239 moves article E. Seventh motion is 1653 01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:46,319 printed on page 23 of the Falltown 1654 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,400 meeting voters booklet. Select Board and 1655 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:49,520 Community Preservation Committee 1656 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,679 recommended. 1657 01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:53,040 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 1658 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,800 whether to appropriate a total of 1659 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,560 $115,000 1660 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,960 from estimated revenues to be expended 1661 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,760 by the DPW relating to installation of a 1662 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,320 ramp for Cape Hedge beach access and 1663 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,719 purchase of beach accessible wheelchairs 1664 01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:10,080 and storage as set forth on page 23. It 1665 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,040 requires a majority vote. Miss George, 1666 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,960 >> beach wheelchair project for 115,000. 1667 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,360 This project f falls under open space 1668 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,320 and recreational land. This project was 1669 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,840 brought to the committee by a Rockport 1670 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,400 citizen. The goal of this project is to 1671 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,520 offer the disabled p the disabled public 1672 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,080 access to Cape Hedge beach old garden 1673 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,640 and front beaches. Currently, there is 1674 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,880 no way for wheelchair dependent people 1675 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,520 to access beaches in Rockport without 1676 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,239 their own private beach wheelchair that 1677 01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:46,080 costs approximately $3,000 each. The 1678 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,000 provision of three beach wheelchairs for 1679 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,400 Cape Edge, Old Garden, and Front would 1680 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,560 offer three different parts of town 1681 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,199 wheelchair access to beaches. That would 1682 01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:57,199 be a tremendous benefit for disabled 1683 01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:00,000 residents and visitors alike. This 1684 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,400 application at first review did not meet 1685 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,920 the specific requirements of the 1686 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,560 allowable spending chart. After the 1687 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,360 initial presentation, it had unanimous 1688 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,920 support from our committee. But again, 1689 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,840 how could we make this work within our 1690 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,880 guidelines? After a lot of discussion 1691 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,679 and checking with the CPC coalition in 1692 01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:22,800 Boston, which we belong to, it was noted 1693 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,199 not an eligible project to adjust 1694 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:27,679 wheelchairs. But if it was capital 1695 01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,159 project, maybe. 1696 01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:31,920 Looking at the wording of the allowable 1697 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,159 use chart under rehabilitation and 1698 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:37,199 restoration, it's a yes. as the 1699 01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:39,360 definition states, make capital 1700 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,400 improvements or extraordinary repairs to 1701 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,840 make assets functional for intended use, 1702 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,199 including improvements for access. So, 1703 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:51,360 in the meantime, we had also concerns 1704 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,280 for storage and access for the three 1705 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,920 wheelchairs, and it was decided to look 1706 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,199 to include storage units at each site. 1707 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:01,120 But how to get the wheelchairs down onto 1708 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,600 Cape Edge Beach with a deteriorating 1709 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,840 cement ramp? 1710 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,199 Make it capital. Put all three together. 1711 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,840 Group the three handicap wheelchairs, 1712 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,480 the storage units, and a metal handicap 1713 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:17,199 accessible ramp like Old Garden and Back 1714 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:20,000 Beach have. We spoke to the conservation 1715 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,400 agent, and this would be allowable as a 1716 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,120 non-permanent structure to be taken out 1717 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,760 and stored in the offse. 1718 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,440 The ask that began at 15,000 came to the 1719 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:35,280 committee and passed for 115,000. 1720 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,040 This will be done under the direction of 1721 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,960 the DPW. 1722 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,800 This is one of those projects like the 1723 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,600 trees that was too good to pass up. We 1724 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,080 had to figure out a way it could fit 1725 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,800 sort of that round peg into our square 1726 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,800 hole or the other way around, but just 1727 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,040 to make it work because it's such a 1728 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,440 perfect project for Rockport and its 1729 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,440 residents. Thank you. 1730 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:04,610 >> Thank you, Miss George. Yes, ma'am. 1731 01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:06,480 » [snorts] 1732 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:08,719 >> Once again, I had to speak. I'm Judy 1733 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:12,719 Luri, 7 Smith Road. Uh, I'm certainly in 1734 01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:17,120 favor of this whole project, but especi 1735 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,120 Cape Hedge Beach since I was a little 1736 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,960 kid and this summer for the first time 1737 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,040 because I had a foot problem. I don't 1738 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,600 know what designates handicapped, but 1739 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,640 and because I'm of a certain age, I 1740 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,960 really couldn't make it down to Cape 1741 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,920 Edge Beach at all except one day when my 1742 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,960 cousin was able to hold my hand. So, I'm 1743 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,679 really excited about this. 1744 01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:43,760 >> Thank you, ma'am. Any further 1745 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,560 discussion? 1746 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,400 >> Yes, ma'am. Over here, we could have a 1747 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,400 mic. 1748 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:56,950 Thank you, Emil. 1749 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,920 » Karen Perry, 41 Corey Ridge Lane. I 1750 01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,920 really have more of a question and I 1751 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,880 also like the concept and realization of 1752 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,440 the project, but the question is about 1753 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,840 Old Garden Beach. Most of the time I go 1754 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,000 to Old Garden Beach, it's not a staffed 1755 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,760 beach where the other two beaches are 1756 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,239 well staffed. and I'm wondering how the 1757 01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:18,480 wheelchair and the wheelchair access 1758 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,880 will work at Old Garden. 1759 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,480 >> Okay. Uh thank you ma'am. Let's see if 1760 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:23,679 there's anyone else and then we'll go 1761 01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:25,120 back to Miss George. Any further 1762 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,640 discussion? 1763 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,640 >> Points of clarification. 1764 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,640 Yes, ma'am. 1765 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,600 >> I wasn't uh Laura Hallowell, 37 High 1766 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,840 Street. I wasn't clear whether it was 1767 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,719 for front beach or back beach. It's a 1768 01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:40,640 question. And the other question is just 1769 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,760 that those words aren't in the warrant. 1770 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:48,000 And so I am confused about when 1771 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,199 Ruth's um description is a little bit 1772 01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:53,120 different from the printed warrant. 1773 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,560 >> I'm sorry. And which what wasn't in the 1774 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,280 warrant? 1775 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,960 >> Well, it it says to Cape Hedge Beach. It 1776 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,400 doesn't mention Old Garden or whether 1777 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,239 it's front or back. I'm a little 1778 01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:08,159 confused on. So, I just want to make 1779 01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:11,360 sure that if we're voting the money that 1780 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,719 it can be used for what was described, 1781 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:16,239 not what's written. 1782 01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:18,159 >> And I will take a guess, but we'll go to 1783 01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:20,640 Miss George, that that relates to the uh 1784 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,040 wheelchairs. Um, any any further 1785 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,520 discussion before we go to Miss George? 1786 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,640 >> All right, Miss George. 1787 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,800 >> Okay, Laura, I'll do yours first. So on 1788 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,120 the on the motion it says the 1789 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,280 installation of a handicapped accessible 1790 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,760 ramp at Cape Hedge and then the purchase 1791 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,440 of the three beach wheelchairs and 1792 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,239 storage units are for the other beaches. 1793 01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:43,199 So the combined beaches. So that is that 1794 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:45,120 one. Um and 1795 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,880 >> there is another question that I missed. 1796 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,120 Yes sir. 1797 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:54,229 >> Way up high. 1798 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,000 » Oh yes ma'am. I'm sorry. I saw somebody 1799 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,320 moving back there. It's okay. 1800 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,480 >> Glasses, contacts, you got to forget. 1801 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:00,719 >> Um, 1802 01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:03,280 >> Mary Corsland to Green Street. I think 1803 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,760 it's a great idea, but I do have some 1804 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,159 concerns about really the logistics of 1805 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:09,840 it. When you think about the ramp that 1806 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,120 goes the this the um concrete ramp that 1807 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,520 goes down to Cape Hedge, 1808 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,280 how do you push a wheelchair up and down 1809 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,280 that? I mean, it's a very steep steep 1810 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,560 slope. So, when you're talking 1811 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,520 handicapped accessible, 1812 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,880 you're going to have to start thinking. 1813 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,719 It's a it's a very big project. And I 1814 01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:27,600 don't know if you've talked to people 1815 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,360 about handicapped accessibility and the 1816 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,880 length of the ramp and incline of the 1817 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,400 ramp and all that kind of stuff, but 1818 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,760 that's a big deal. 1819 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,760 >> Are you referring to Old Garden or Cape 1820 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,440 Hedge? You mentioned a concrete ramp. 1821 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,280 >> Cape Hedge, but Old Garden is I mean, 1822 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,760 not Cape Hedge, but Front Beach also has 1823 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,239 that very steep ramp. So, the ramps are 1824 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:46,000 not handicapped accessible any way you 1825 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,800 shake it. Um, but I do worry about 1826 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,640 safety issues with inclines and 1827 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,960 wheelchairs and all that kind of stuff 1828 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,440 because the incline's not handicap 1829 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,600 accessible right now at Cape Hedge. 1830 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,080 >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Corland. Any 1831 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,000 further points, clarification, 1832 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,679 discussions? I see you, Mr. Ives. 1833 01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:05,840 Anybody else before we go to Mr. Ives? 1834 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,440 No, Mr. Ives. 1835 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,679 >> Uh, just as a point of reference, I was 1836 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:11,199 the person that put forward the request 1837 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:14,000 for the uh for this proposal. Um, we've 1838 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,400 worked with a contractor who can, and 1839 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,920 there are others, you could get multiple 1840 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,280 bids, uh, can actually go over the 1841 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,360 existing concrete ramp, which is an 1842 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,440 awful, you wouldn't barely call it a 1843 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,040 ramp at Cape Hedge Beach on South 1844 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,719 Street, and have um an aluminum ramp 1845 01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:33,120 that runs 60 feet that would be wide 1846 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,440 enough handicap accessibility wise or 1847 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:38,080 ADA wise, and the grade would be such 1848 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,840 that it would be it would meet all 1849 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,920 requirements of the ADA in order for 1850 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,199 that to be bridged. And of course, it's 1851 01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:44,480 going to help the general public get on 1852 01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:46,159 Cape Hedge, too, which is awful right 1853 01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:48,480 now. It, you know, the average mom and 1854 01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,480 dad taking a bunch of kids down there, 1855 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,159 you're going to twist your ankle better 1856 01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:54,640 than not. So, uh, it's going to be good 1857 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,320 all the way around. As to the other 1858 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,480 beaches, the ramps are what they are. 1859 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:01,199 They've been there for decades. And um 1860 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:02,880 until such time as perhaps another 1861 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,880 alternative is found, this is the best 1862 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,719 bridge for anyone hoping for handicap 1863 01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:09,440 accessibility is to use what's existing 1864 01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:12,640 on other beaches and have wheelchairs to 1865 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,000 use on them. 1866 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,520 >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Ives. Anyone 1867 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,040 else before I go to Miss George? Yes, 1868 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,120 ma'am. 1869 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,950 Uh Miss Welski. 1870 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,520 » Thank you. Amy Senro Avenue, a quick 1871 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,360 question about the storage units. Um, 1872 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,120 I'm for the process, but I'm just would 1873 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,280 like a point of clarification. Are the 1874 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,719 storage units going to be open and 1875 01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:37,040 available? I mean, I'm just concerned if 1876 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,440 there's going to be people, animals 1877 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:40,960 going in and deciding to store 1878 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,960 themselves in those units, and are they 1879 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,840 going to be um all year long or just 1880 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,360 during the summer seasons? 1881 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,040 >> Okay. Thank you, Miss George. You you 1882 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,880 still have those things in mind. I I 1883 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,560 compiled a long list on you. I'm sorry, 1884 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,910 Miss George. 1885 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,040 if you want to address 1886 01:18:59,040 --> 01:18:59,360 those. 1887 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,480 >> Oh, okay. Um, so about the beaches 1888 01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:04,640 without a lifeguard. We've looked into 1889 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,120 that and we've discussed the um huts or 1890 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,719 whatever we're going to put them in. 1891 01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:13,280 They would be locked and we would have 1892 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,280 the we would have it noted on them. 1893 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,199 We've started talking about that with 1894 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:20,640 Nathan about um calling a different a 1895 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,920 number. Maybe it would be the police 1896 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,000 station. Maybe it would be a number for 1897 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,360 DPW to unlock it or a lifeguard to 1898 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,679 unlock it or the police. Maybe it would 1899 01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:33,120 be like um the person would have to 1900 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,560 leave their license at the police 1901 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,080 station to get the key and bring it 1902 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,320 back, something like that. But we want 1903 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,480 to make sure that they're protected. The 1904 01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,880 huts will be taken out just like the 1905 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,800 ramp and the wheelchairs and they'll be 1906 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,960 stored in the off season. So they'll 1907 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,719 just be during the busy beach season 1908 01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:50,560 that they'll be available. 1909 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,159 >> Thank you, Miss George. And if I 1910 01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:53,679 understand it, the question before us 1911 01:19:53,679 --> 01:19:56,080 today is a ramp at Cape Hedge and then 1912 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,679 three chairs for uh beaches. Uh do you 1913 01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:01,120 can is there any information you can 1914 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,360 provide relating to Front Beach per the 1915 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,280 voters's question which is not before us 1916 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,320 today obviously. 1917 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,040 >> Right. No, we're Front Beach has its own 1918 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,040 ramp already. We're not looking to put 1919 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,800 another ramp down there. We're just 1920 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,280 trying to get ramp a ramp at Cape Hedge 1921 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,679 where it's really needed. I mean this 1922 01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:19,760 summer constantly people were 1923 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,199 complaining about getting on there 1924 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:22,800 whether they were with young children or 1925 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,040 elderly people and so we just focused 1926 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,080 that one this time with the wheelchairs 1927 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,040 and the huts to store them. 1928 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,000 Back beach back beach also has a um a 1929 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,600 ramp that they take in and out every 1930 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:36,880 year. 1931 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,239 >> Thank you, Miss George. Any further 1932 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,159 discussion? 1933 01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:42,640 >> Yes, ma'am. Miss Borton. I know I got it 1934 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,560 wrong, but it used to be Borton. Lori 1935 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,800 Williams, uh, 32 High Street. Um, 1936 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,640 correct me if I'm wrong, but just to 1937 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,040 sort of speak to your safety question, 1938 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,199 um, the my understanding of the design 1939 01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,000 of the wheelchairs are such that they're 1940 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,640 even for folks who, um, self-propelled 1941 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,199 their own wheelchairs. Beach wheelchairs 1942 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,520 are not designed to be self-propelling 1943 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,920 wheelchairs. So, in inherent in the 1944 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,440 design is that you need to have a 1945 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:10,880 companion person alongside to help um, 1946 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,520 push the wheelchair. So, in any 1947 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,199 situation in which someone was going to 1948 01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,679 be able to utilize a wheelchair on the 1949 01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:19,280 beach, they need to have a partner 1950 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,120 person with them anyway, which I think 1951 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,239 could help um secure safety going up and 1952 01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,560 down the ramps. 1953 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,080 >> Thank you, Miss Williams. Apologies to 1954 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,920 Kurt. Uh we are going to use electronic 1955 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,920 voting on this. Uh any further 1956 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,719 discussion? 1957 01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:38,159 All right. Seeing none, 1958 01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:40,480 the question before you is whether to 1959 01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:43,120 appropriate a total of $115,000 from 1960 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,351 estimated revenues to be expended 1961 01:21:45,351 --> 01:21:47,600 [clears throat] by the DPW relating to 1962 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,440 installation of a ramp for Cape Hedge 1963 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:52,080 beach access and the purchase of uh 1964 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,080 beach wheelchairs, specifically three 1965 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,760 beach wheelchairs for beaches in 1966 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,639 Rockport. It requires a majority vote. 1967 01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:00,960 We will vote by electronic means. You 1968 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,040 will have 12 seconds from when I say the 1969 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,920 words vote now. You will press one or a 1970 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,320 for I if you support the motion. You 1971 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,800 will press two or B for no if you oppose 1972 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,639 the motion. Would [clears throat] anyone 1973 01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:14,400 like me to clarify the question before 1974 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,840 you or how we are voting? 1975 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,440 All right. 1976 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:22,400 All those in favor press one or A for I. 1977 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,000 All those opposed press two or B for no. 1978 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,520 Ready? Vote now. Now. Now. It's counting 1979 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:35,600 down. 9 8 7 6 5 4 1980 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:41,679 3 2 1 stop. And that motion carries by 1981 01:22:41,679 --> 01:22:43,040 90%. 1982 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:43,679 >> Y 1983 01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:46,159 >> 90% in favor, 10 opposed, and the 1984 01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:49,679 numerical count is 169 in favor and 19 1985 01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:51,199 opposed. 1986 01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:53,760 On to the eighth motion. 1987 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,760 >> Mr. Moderator CPC Chair Ruth George 1988 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,320 moves article E8 motion as printed on 1989 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,239 page 23 of the falltime meeting voters 1990 01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:03,920 booklet. Select Ford and CPC recommend. 1991 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:04,880 >> Seconded. 1992 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,320 >> Moved and seconded. The question is 1993 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,000 whether to appropriate and transfer 1994 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,800 $193,200 1995 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,560 from the CPC undesated fund as a grant 1996 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,239 to the Pigeon Cove Chapel for 1997 01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:18,480 restoration, rehabilitation, and 1998 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,120 preservation of the historic building at 1999 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,320 155 Granite Street is set forth on page 2000 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,400 23 of the voters's booklet. It requires 2001 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,400 a majority vote. Miss George 2002 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,400 >> Pigeon Cove Chapel historic steeple 2003 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,400 restoration project for 193,200. 2004 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,159 This project falls under historic 2005 01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:40,800 resources. This application is brought 2006 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,480 on behalf of the Pigeon Cove Chapel 2007 01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,600 steering committee. The chapel was built 2008 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,400 was constructed in 1868 2009 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,040 and the Carpenter Gothic steeple tower 2010 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,840 was added in 1873. 2011 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,239 The steeple has served for over 150 2012 01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:58,719 years as an important landmark in the 2013 01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:01,920 historic landscape of Pigeon Cove. This 2014 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,000 is the last remaining church in Pigeon 2015 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,400 Cove that in the day had three to four 2016 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,679 or more other churches. The goal of this 2017 01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:11,920 restoration project is to hire 2018 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,000 professional steeple jack company 2019 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,480 American steeple and tower who have 2020 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:18,400 restored several other historic 2021 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,560 streetscape steeples in town. the 2022 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,440 Congregational, Universalist, Unitarian, 2023 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,000 and the Baptist. They will undertake 2024 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,080 critical preservation work that will 2025 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,239 stabilize and restore the steeple, 2026 01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:32,480 ensuring its structural integrity, 2027 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:34,480 historic character, and aesthetic 2028 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:36,000 qualities are preserved while 2029 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,960 maintaining the chapel's historic charm 2030 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,040 and the scenic contribution to 2031 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,480 Rockwood's townscape from land and sea. 2032 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,800 This church is community oriented and 2033 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,960 hosts numerous events open to the public 2034 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,800 throughout the years like all the other 2035 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,600 churches in town do. A previous 2036 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,360 structural assessment for this project 2037 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,080 was completed with another grant from 2038 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,600 CPC in 2017. 2039 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,760 A reminder historic church work is 2040 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,639 allowable under CPC as it relates to the 2041 01:25:06,639 --> 01:25:09,280 historic quality and streetscape to the 2042 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,560 town. 2043 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,120 This this application is supported by 2044 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,920 the Rockport Historic Commission. 2045 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,920 Because this is not a town-owned 2046 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,159 property, a deed restriction would be 2047 01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,719 done with the church and the town. This 2048 01:25:22,719 --> 01:25:24,880 is to ensure that properties funded or 2049 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,360 acquired with public money continue to 2050 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,239 be used for their intended purposes. 2051 01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:31,679 Thank you. [clears throat] 2052 01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:35,910 >> Thank you, Miss George. Discussion, 2053 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:47,510 Mr. Arcinian. 2054 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,480 Toby Arcenian 95 Granite Street continue 2055 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:53,040 to be used for the intended purposes, 2056 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,320 historic purposes. Um, but we had a 2057 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,239 Methodist church, not a historic 2058 01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,480 building on Broadway, and it isn't there 2059 01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,960 any longer. It turned out it didn't 2060 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,960 belong to the congregation. it belonged 2061 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,000 to the Methodist Association in Lawrence 2062 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,440 or Habil or some such place and uh they 2063 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,760 pocketed the money and sold it to a 2064 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,000 developer. Uh I don't know how many 2065 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,639 people belong to the Pigeon Coke Chapel. 2066 01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:21,840 Um it's been there a long time. Uh not 2067 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,960 being a member I you know don't have 2068 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,719 strong feelings but would hope it 2069 01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:30,639 continues. uh if it doesn't continue uh 2070 01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:33,520 and it was sold to a developer like the 2071 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,920 Methodist church and turned into luxury 2072 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,560 condos, you never heard of a condo that 2073 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,679 was not a luxury condo. Um we would get 2074 01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:45,840 the money back. Um but in 2040 we would 2075 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,239 get the signed sum back that we gave 2076 01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:51,920 give them in 2026. Uh that's just an 2077 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,920 observation. 2078 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,639 >> Thank you Mr. Arinian. 2079 01:26:56,639 --> 01:26:59,600 Any further discussion? Yes, ma'am. If 2080 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,000 we could get a mic. 2081 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,679 Thank you, Emil. Right down here to my 2082 01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:08,470 left. 2083 01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:10,960 Karen Perry, 41 Corey Ridge Lane. And 2084 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,600 it's really a question. Um, have we used 2085 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,000 funds from this uh program and from the 2086 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,679 town to support the restoration of any 2087 01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:23,280 of the other churches in town? In 2088 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,520 particular, the steel restoration and 2089 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,280 equivalent. 2090 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,040 >> We did on the congregational church, but 2091 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,199 I'll let Miss uh George address that. 2092 01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:32,800 And any further discussion before I go 2093 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,760 to Miss George? 2094 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,440 >> All right. Seeing none, Miss George? 2095 01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,600 >> Yes, we have done three other projects. 2096 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,760 We did the universalist unarian church 2097 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,840 steeple. We did the Baptist church 2098 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,480 steeple and we did the congregational 2099 01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,600 church steeple. 2100 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,040 Thank you, Miss George. Any further 2101 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,040 discussion? 2102 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,480 Seeing none, I sense you're ready to 2103 01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:57,760 vote. Again, the question is whether to 2104 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,639 appropriate and transfer $192,000 2105 01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:02,480 $193,200 2106 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:04,960 from the undesated fund as a grant to 2107 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,920 the Pigeon Cove Chapel relating to the 2108 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,840 restoration of the historic building at 2109 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,760 155 Granite Street. It requires a 2110 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,520 majority vote. All those in favor say I. 2111 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,679 >> Oppos say no. 2112 01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:19,600 >> That motion carries by more than a 2113 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:27,030 majority. Ninth motion. 2114 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,280 Mr. Moderator, CPC Chair Ruth George 2115 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,880 moves article E9th motion as printed on 2116 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,360 page 23 of the Falltown meeting voters 2117 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,360 booklet. Select board and community 2118 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,189 preservation committee recommend. 2119 01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:42,880 » Moved and seconded. The question before 2120 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,120 you is whether to appro appropriate and 2121 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,199 transfer $70,000 from the CPC undesated 2122 01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,159 fund to be expended by the town clerk 2123 01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:54,239 relating to preservation of town records 2124 01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,960 as set forth on page 23 of the voters's 2125 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,960 booklet. Uh we'll go to Miss George and 2126 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,360 then to the clerk. 2127 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,040 >> This project falls under historic 2128 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,280 preservation. This application is 2129 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,280 submitted by the town clerk Melanie 2130 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,400 Wadell. It is it is a proposal for the 2131 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,120 continuation of last year's CPC project 2132 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360 for restoration, preservation, and 2133 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,920 digitalization of the oldest and most as 2134 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,320 at risk volumes of the town's vital 2135 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,960 records and permanent documents dating 2136 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,639 back to our town incorporation in 1840. 2137 01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:28,560 This request is part of a large effort 2138 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,400 that includes the restoration of the 2139 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,280 public records vault in town hall. The 2140 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,080 vault restoration would provide adequate 2141 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,920 archival shelving and ensure an 2142 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,360 appropriate environment for its 2143 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,159 contents. This collective effort works 2144 01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,639 hard towards our lawful duty to protect 2145 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:47,360 and preserve our records in perpetuity. 2146 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,520 Original records are currently unbound 2147 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,159 and suffering from deterioration. 2148 01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:53,920 The only vital records that have been 2149 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,560 rebound and encapsulated in archival 2150 01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,960 pockets are from the years 2000 to 2024. 2151 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,040 The proposal was for a phased approach 2152 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,600 in the next three to five years. It 2153 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,120 would start with the oldest and most 2154 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,440 atrisisk volumes of the town's vital 2155 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:12,159 records as recommended by a free 2156 01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:14,560 assessment conducted by co-ile in 2157 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,040 January of 2025. 2158 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,880 This phase would be to digitalize and 2159 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,120 preserve all vital ledger books, the 2160 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,520 oldest nine volumes of birth, nine 2161 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,000 volumes of marriages, and 11 volumes of 2162 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,800 death records. Permanent records are by 2163 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,800 their nature a historical and cultural 2164 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,920 importance to the town. We must lawfully 2165 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,000 store, maintain, and preserve these 2166 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,880 irreplaceable cultural artifacts and 2167 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,120 must provide adequate and secure 2168 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,840 archival storage to protect our historic 2169 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,760 town documents. 2170 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,600 Not only because we are legally required 2171 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,920 to do so, but to maintain the historic 2172 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,280 public resource for future generations. 2173 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,080 Mass General Laws site section 11 fire 2174 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,639 approved vaults and safes and site 2175 01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:01,840 section 12 arrangement of records. The 2176 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,600 town clerk's office has also been 2177 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,760 awarded capital improvement planning 2178 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,920 committee money to assist in purchasing 2179 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,480 a storage system designated to protect 2180 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:12,800 the integrity of the documents required 2181 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,840 to be to be kept in perpetuity. 2182 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,920 Space has also been created in the vault 2183 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,080 design for future restoration and 2184 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,120 archiving of our maps. Other files in 2185 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,040 the vault include planning and zoning 2186 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,239 files, town meeting files, deeds and 2187 01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:30,560 town owned land files, and election 2188 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,480 materials and storage of election 2189 01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:34,560 results that have retention 2190 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,800 requirements. 2191 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,880 This original application was submitted 2192 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,960 for $100,000. 2193 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,800 This past year, the town clerk has done 2194 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,360 extensive work and visited several other 2195 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,920 towns and spoken to facilities and 2196 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,280 revised her ask down to 70,000. She 2197 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,600 feels she can be more economical and get 2198 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,639 more work done than anticipated. She 2199 01:31:56,639 --> 01:31:59,040 would like to get the first 76 books 2200 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,360 done and re-evaluate because of the 2201 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,040 other items in the vault needing a 2202 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,520 different type of work. She has already 2203 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,920 gotten back many books and works from 2204 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,120 last year's grant. Thank you. 2205 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:16,070 >> Thank you, Miss George. Discussion. 2206 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,760 All right. Seeing none, I sense you are 2207 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,600 ready to vote. The question is whether 2208 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,400 to appropriate and transfer 75 $70,000 2209 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,639 from the undesated fund to be expended 2210 01:32:24,639 --> 01:32:26,639 by the town clerk relating to records 2211 01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:28,880 preservation. It requires a majority 2212 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,360 vote. All those in favor say I. 2213 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:31,920 >> I. 2214 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,719 >> Oppos say no. That motion carries and it 2215 01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:37,120 is unanimous. We are on to a motion 2216 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,320 under article F Foxtrot which also 2217 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,960 starts the word final and it is the 2218 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,239 final motion. 2219 01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:46,909 >> Thank you everyone. 2220 01:32:46,909 --> 01:32:53,669 >> [applause] 2221 01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:55,679 » Miss George, your season has started far 2222 01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:56,960 better than Drake May. I think you 2223 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:57,920 should go down there and give him a 2224 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,590 tuneup in Foxboro. 2225 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,679 Mr. Moderator, article F, select board 2226 01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:05,600 member, uh, Don Southern moves the 2227 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,600 motion for article F as printed on page 2228 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,520 24 of the Falltown meeting voters 2229 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,920 booklet. The select board, finance 2230 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,840 committee, and DPW commissioners 2231 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:14,800 recommend. 2232 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,040 >> Second. moved and seconded. The question 2233 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,880 before you is whether to appropriate 2234 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,719 $1,800,000 2235 01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:22,639 to pay costs of the town hall 2236 01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:24,719 remediation, renovation, and 2237 01:33:24,719 --> 01:33:27,840 modernization project and to end uh and 2238 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,760 to this end to authorize borrowing by 2239 01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,520 the treasurer with approval of the 2240 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,400 select board as set forth on page 24 of 2241 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,400 the voters's booklet. This requires a 2242 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,239 twothirds vote and we will be using 2243 01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:40,639 electronic uh the clickers to vote on 2244 01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:42,960 this uh motion. 2245 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:55,110 Mr. Vieiraa and crew. 2246 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,199 » We could move to the first overview 2247 01:33:57,199 --> 01:33:58,639 slide. 2248 01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:00,080 >> And Mr. Craig, if you could just state 2249 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:00,880 your name and position. 2250 01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,800 >> Yeah, certainly. Uh, Robert Craig, 2251 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,320 special projects and grants manager for 2252 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,239 the town of Rockport. I just wanted to 2253 01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:08,400 give a quick overview on this project as 2254 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,639 a whole as pending this appropriation, 2255 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:13,440 it will be beginning quite soon. at this 2256 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:14,880 point just wanted to go over what the 2257 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,880 project is is not and then give some 2258 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,960 basic overview as well as some uh 2259 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,040 overview from those who are up with me 2260 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,159 today. Um primary objective of this 2261 01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:25,840 project and the reason why one of the 2262 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,600 original allocations for the project was 2263 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,320 related to ARPA funding is to abate 2264 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,159 hazardous material in the building. 2265 01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:34,639 There's a combination of asbestous in 2266 01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:37,600 both uh floors and ceilings as well as 2267 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,920 lead lead paint on the walls that needs 2268 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,639 to be abated in order to improve uh 2269 01:34:42,639 --> 01:34:44,320 general health and safety for employees 2270 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,239 and users of the building as well as 2271 01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:49,360 install a fully electrified HVAC system 2272 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:50,560 which will meet the fresh air 2273 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,400 circulation requirements uh that now 2274 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,320 exist for buildings that didn't uh when 2275 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,080 the building was originally built in the 2276 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,800 50s. In addition to that, uh there is an 2277 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,199 associate electrical upgrade in order to 2278 01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:05,280 fully electrify the HVAC and heat and 2279 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,280 hot water systems. Uh this will be in 2280 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,199 alignment with the net zero objectives 2281 01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:10,960 that the town has put forward in the 2282 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,440 past and continues to pursue. Uh so 2283 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:15,840 complete removal of the current oil fire 2284 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,639 heat system that's in the building. Also 2285 01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:20,960 replacing uh all of the windows in the 2286 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,199 building. Uh we had a I would say 2287 01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:25,280 constructive back and forth with the uh 2288 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,360 historic commission about the windows on 2289 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,199 this building and we're able to settle 2290 01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:32,880 on full back to the masonry uh 2291 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,960 replacement of the windows so that 2292 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,400 they'll retain their original 2293 01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,120 dimensions, original look um and also 2294 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,520 going with full wood windows as a 2295 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,040 replacement for that. So that's actually 2296 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,880 something that's out to bid right now 2297 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,560 and we're excited to see those bids come 2298 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,040 back from some of the vendors who can 2299 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:50,960 meet those historical requirements. uh 2300 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,080 that were brought forward in the 2301 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,080 discussion with the historic commission. 2302 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,520 We'll also be as I mentioned 2303 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,920 electrifying that HVAC and hot water 2304 01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,760 system. Uh there's associate national 2305 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,600 grid incentives with that which we've 2306 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,280 been working with national grid since 2307 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,040 the conception of the project to make 2308 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,400 sure that we maximize on those 2309 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,600 incentives wherever possible. Um, as 2310 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,159 Melanie mentioned, um, not only is she 2311 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:14,080 doing fantastic restoration work with 2312 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,719 the records themselves, but there's a 2313 01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:19,120 large portion of this project that 2314 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,280 involves updating our record storage 2315 01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,520 vault in town hall to be able to 2316 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,679 maintain those records going forward and 2317 01:36:25,679 --> 01:36:27,520 really good be good stewards of those 2318 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,199 historic records and the investments 2319 01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,920 that CPC and others are making to that 2320 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,239 project. We're also making associated 2321 01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,360 ADA improvements. um that's was always a 2322 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:38,960 core part of the project, but given the 2323 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,199 project budget as a percentage of the 2324 01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:42,800 valuation of the building, there's a 2325 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,960 requirement for that as well. So that'll 2326 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,719 be some changes to the ramp that gets 2327 01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:48,880 you down into the conference room to 2328 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,440 meet the necessary slope requirements 2329 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:53,440 there. Dropping all the counter heights 2330 01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:56,400 to 36 in um to be more accessible for 2331 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,400 general users and some miscellaneous 2332 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,480 changes to bathrooms and water fountains 2333 01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,719 and things of that sort. And then uh 2334 01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:04,080 flooring and wall painting as 2335 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,320 necessitated by the abatement. As I 2336 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,239 mentioned uh with issues of lead paint 2337 01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:10,239 as well as the renovation work necessary 2338 01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:13,199 for that HVAC system swap out uh there 2339 01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:16,800 will be impacts to uh both the floors, 2340 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,560 the walls and the ceilings. So there 2341 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,480 will be replacements associated with all 2342 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:22,239 of that. 2343 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:24,400 Moving to what the project is not, 2344 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,480 there's no change to the footprint of 2345 01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,119 the building. Uh it's not a redecoration 2346 01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:30,800 project. We'll be, as I mentioned, 2347 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,400 swapping out floors and doing some 2348 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,239 painting. Uh, but there won't be any 2349 01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:36,560 significant redecoration uh efforts 2350 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,800 associated with that. Um, there won't be 2351 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,480 any new furniture going into the 2352 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,040 building. Those of us, uh, who have 2353 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,719 desks that are in good working order, 2354 01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:46,960 myself included, uh, will be simply 2355 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:48,480 rolling our desks back into the building 2356 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:51,119 once the work is complete. And, uh, 2357 01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:53,440 there are some that may require 2358 01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:54,880 replacement just because they're on the 2359 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,480 older side, may not be able to be moved 2360 01:37:56,480 --> 01:37:58,320 out and back in. Um, but that will be on 2361 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,119 an as necessary basis. Uh, and there's 2362 01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:02,880 also not a significant redesign of the 2363 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,880 building or anything of that sort. Um, 2364 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,280 there may be some small changes to one 2365 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,280 particular office location or another. 2366 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:10,880 Um, but all the walls are staying where 2367 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,880 they are. Um, and things of that sort. 2368 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,560 So, you'll be able to see the folks in 2369 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:15,920 town hall that you've been seeing in 2370 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,000 town hall for various services over 2371 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,560 time. So, just a quick recap, the focus 2372 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,719 really was primarily from the start and 2373 01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:24,639 continues to be on employee health and 2374 01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:27,119 safety. Um the priority is a simple 2375 01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:30,159 functional renovation uh within the 2376 01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:32,800 existing building because we that's 2377 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,320 simply the building that we have right 2378 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,800 now and the associated magnitude of cost 2379 01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,960 with anything beyond the current 2380 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,880 building would be astronomical in 2381 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,040 comparison. and to really update all the 2382 01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,040 major building systems so that we can 2383 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:46,800 continue to occupy this building for at 2384 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,440 least the next 30 years um and really 2385 01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:53,040 evaluate those systems as they reach end 2386 01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,159 of life 20 to 30 years from now. So 2387 01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:57,920 that's just a basic overview of the 2388 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:05,189 project itself. 2389 01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:07,600 So, as you've Melanie Wadell, town 2390 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,000 clerk, sorry. As you've heard a few 2391 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,840 times tonight about the vault. It's a 2392 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,280 project I've been working on over the 2393 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,920 last three years. Um, I have received 2394 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,639 capital funding for archival shelving. 2395 01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:21,440 Um, trying to make sure that first it 2396 01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:23,119 was storage cabinets, fireproof storage 2397 01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:24,719 cabinets, just because the vault isn't 2398 01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:26,560 fireproof, but the vault also has a 2399 01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,960 ceiling that is asbestous. So, this is 2400 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,440 where it all really ties in together. 2401 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,239 Um, the renovation with the humidity 2402 01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:36,320 control and temperature control that's 2403 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:37,679 going to go into the whole building will 2404 01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:39,679 also be in the vault. So, it will help 2405 01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:42,800 to continue uh reduce deterioration on 2406 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,119 the vital records that we have. And by 2407 01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:47,199 doing the preservation that I'm doing 2408 01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:50,159 with the uh CPC money, um they've been 2409 01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:51,760 they're actually brought a sample of it. 2410 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,920 They're put into archival folders and 2411 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,960 into clamshells. So, um, all of the 2412 01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,280 effort and money and time that we're 2413 01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,840 putting into preserving these records, 2414 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,760 uh, the renovation is like, you know, 2415 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,679 previously said, it will just help 2416 01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:08,080 further that effort. Um, additionally, I 2417 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,000 mean, even more important to this, I 2418 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,639 think the first line in Rob's 2419 01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:15,360 presentation said to mitigate hazardous 2420 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:19,199 materials. Um, most important to me is 2421 01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:21,840 the health and safety of the employees 2422 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,000 and not only employee the employees but 2423 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,159 every one of you that comes into town 2424 01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:28,880 hall to do business on a daily basis. 2425 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,280 Um, so I'm I'm really hoping that you'll 2426 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,520 support this article for all of our 2427 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,239 health and safety. Thank you. 2428 01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:38,560 >> Thank you, Mr. Craig and Miss Waldell 2429 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,920 and Mr. Shalufo. 2430 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,800 >> Oh, Vieira, pardon me. Uh so this is 2431 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,520 again as a as the indicates in the um 2432 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,199 warrant. This is supplemental funding. 2433 01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:52,239 The town does have uh funding in place. 2434 01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:54,000 A million dollar borrowing is already in 2435 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,679 place which was previously approved. It 2436 01:40:55,679 --> 01:40:59,040 is using approximately $750,000 in ARPA 2437 01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,199 funding for this and has other capital 2438 01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:03,280 appropriations including the capital 2439 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,679 appropriation uh for the town clerk's 2440 01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:09,280 vault. Uh the town intends also to 2441 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,000 continue to seek out grants to continue 2442 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,080 to defay the costs for this. So this 2443 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,920 isn't simply okay this money is here and 2444 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,600 let's move forward. The towni is 2445 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,639 intending and will be applying for a 2446 01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:22,880 green communities grant as well to 2447 01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,480 continue to try to defay the costs 2448 01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:27,119 associated with this. So, we continue to 2449 01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:29,040 take all the uh uh possible and 2450 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,040 appropriate steps to try to keep the 2451 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,520 cost down, recognizing that at the end 2452 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,840 of the day, uh as has been said several 2453 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,320 times, this truly is a uh a health and 2454 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,080 safety issue first and foremost in 2455 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:43,040 addition to preserving uh town hall uh 2456 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:47,280 for a number of years to come. 2457 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,199 >> And director Shalufo, 2458 01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:52,159 >> Eric Shalo, uh TBW director again. Uh 2459 01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:55,280 Rob said a lot. uh Mitch and thank you. 2460 01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,719 Um again, health and safety um through 2461 01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:00,000 the building process or through the 2462 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,480 evaluation of the building process there were more things found uh that 2463 01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:06,719 came up from an electrical standpoint, 2464 01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:08,880 from a mitigation standpoint, and that's 2465 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,880 the uh needed costs uh for this 2466 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,040 renovation project. Thank you. 2467 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,600 >> All right. Uh for the boards that need 2468 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,199 to weigh in on this article, we'll start 2469 01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:22,080 with the select board, Mr. Murphy. 2470 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:29,030 intimidating 2471 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,119 group in back of me here. Uh this 2472 01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:32,880 article before you tonight, the 2473 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,920 additional 1.8 million for town hall 2474 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,360 renovation is not a luxury. Uh it is a 2475 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,920 responsibility. Uh town hall has not 2476 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,560 seen a significant uh renovation since 2477 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,040 it opened in 1956. 2478 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,960 And the building now contains, as you 2479 01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,600 heard, asbestous that must be removed to 2480 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,880 protect the health of our employees, our 2481 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,800 residents, and every visitor who walks 2482 01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,760 through those doors. Our staff in the 2483 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,440 building is that's in the building every 2484 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:03,920 day deserve it. They deserve a safe 2485 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,960 environment and our community deserves a 2486 01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,280 town hall that reflects the pride that 2487 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,840 we take in Rockport. A building that is 2488 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,000 functional, healthy, and prepared for 2489 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,960 the next generation. The select board 2490 01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,760 urges you to support this article. Let's 2491 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,840 invest in the future of our town and 2492 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,239 take care of the people who take care of 2493 01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,880 Rockport. Thank you. 2494 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,560 >> Thank you, Mr. Murphy. I believe we're 2495 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,040 hearing from the finance committee. Miss 2496 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,046 Donnelly, 2497 01:43:34,056 --> 01:43:36,080 [cough and clears throat] 2498 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,440 » Denise Donnelly, 72 Pigeon Hill Street. 2499 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:41,360 From uh the finance committee 2500 01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,000 perspective, this uh borrowing if and 2501 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,800 when it happens as needed will have no 2502 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,880 effect at all on our bond rating, which 2503 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,000 is double A+ right now thanks to the 2504 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,880 judicious and thoughtful management of 2505 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,440 the town budget over a long period of 2506 01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:00,159 time. And because of our uh good 2507 01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:04,000 financial standing, we will um borrow at 2508 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,480 a favorable rate. So, the finance 2509 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:09,679 committee supports this motion. 2510 01:44:09,679 --> 01:44:13,040 >> Thank you, Miss Donnelly. 2511 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,360 So, uh discussion. 2512 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,596 >> Oh, I I'm sorry. Uh who are you again? 2513 01:44:18,596 --> 01:44:19,600 [laughter] 2514 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:20,080 >> Hi, 2515 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,119 >> Miss Batistelli. 2516 01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:23,199 >> Yes. Uh Aaron Bedestelli. the chair of 2517 01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:27,520 the DPW commissioners and um and because 2518 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,679 of all the reasons that were laid out to 2519 01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:32,480 you tonight, the DPW commissioners voted 2520 01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:39,360 unanimously to support this article and hope you're you're able to see um 2521 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:43,360 your way to to pass it. Um I don't think 2522 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,520 you know I can add any more information 2523 01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,600 than you've already heard. And it and 2524 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,840 sometimes you know these short articles 2525 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,880 like four lines um you know it's a it's 2526 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:57,840 a uh it doesn't show us here tonight how 2527 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,520 much work has been put forth um you know 2528 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,560 to get us to this place. Um so we hope 2529 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:06,412 you support the article. Thank you. 2530 01:45:06,412 --> 01:45:06,800 [clears throat] 2531 01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,719 >> Thank you Miss Batistelli. All right. 2532 01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:12,629 Discussion. 2533 01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:19,510 Yes, sir. 2534 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:23,360 Hi, Steve Trider 15 Sandy Bay Terrace. I 2535 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,360 would like to know what is the total 2536 01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,800 cost of this project from beginning to 2537 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,840 end. We haven't seen any facts or 2538 01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,800 figures concerning that. I'm not against 2539 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,280 the health provisions. They definitely 2540 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,960 need it. But I feel like 2541 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,400 you're saying 100 1,800,000 2542 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,320 is it? How do we know you're not going 2543 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,679 to come back for more money? And how is 2544 01:45:49,679 --> 01:45:53,119 it that a company that you hired to 2545 01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:56,639 evaluate this project in the beginning 2546 01:45:56,639 --> 01:46:00,159 for a building that was built in 1956 2547 01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:03,920 didn't know that there was asbestous and 2548 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,159 lead paint in it? 2549 01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:08,239 I I don't buy it. I think something's 2550 01:46:08,239 --> 01:46:11,760 fishy here. So, I think they deserve the 2551 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,520 renovations, but I think we're being uh 2552 01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,600 shielded from what the total costs are 2553 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,040 going to be. 2554 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,400 >> Uh, all right. Thank you, sir. Let me 2555 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:21,760 see if I can line up any others and then 2556 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:29,040 we'll go to either the DPW or one of our boards here. Yes, ma'am. 2557 01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,320 Let's go to you and then we'll go to 2558 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,960 this lady. Hi, I'm Victoria Jackson, 145 2559 01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,000 South Street, and I agree with the 2560 01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,639 previous question and also would like to 2561 01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:44,320 know how long are we committed to having 2562 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:48,480 the town hall be in this building. 2563 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:49,920 >> Okay. And let's take one more and then 2564 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,400 we'll go back to our boards. Yes, ma'am. 2565 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,360 And I'm I'm trying not to 2566 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,520 ignore this side. I'm sorry. I know I'm 2567 01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:58,880 tilting this way. I'll make sure I get 2568 01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,040 over here, too. Yes, ma'am. Uh Karen 2569 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,639 Perry, I'm reinforcing the first 2570 01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:05,199 question. I also support upgrades for 2571 01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:07,440 health and safety and also just upgrades 2572 01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:09,280 for our town hall and we get a lot of 2573 01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,199 work done there and we'd like it to be 2574 01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:17,679 great. Um but I do have a question. I'm unclear about what we are getting an 2575 01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:20,320 incremental budget on top of. So it 2576 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:21,840 would be very helpful to understand the 2577 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,639 larger picture for the project. And I 2578 01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:26,239 also have a question um about 2579 01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:29,360 remediation. Um my understanding is that 2580 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,360 we always get rid of lead paint. You 2581 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,840 never want to have that around. But the 2582 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,159 process of getting rid of asbestous is 2583 01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:38,639 one of the problems. But actually having 2584 01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:41,280 encased in best is oftentimes not a 2585 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,840 problem at all. So just because one has 2586 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,320 asbestous because there's a lot of it in 2587 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,639 places if it is well maintain well 2588 01:47:48,639 --> 01:47:50,880 contained it's better to leave it there 2589 01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,440 than move it around. So I'm wondering 2590 01:47:53,440 --> 01:47:54,960 are we getting rid of every bit of 2591 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,320 asbestous or are we being strategic in 2592 01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,000 what we're getting rid of in the in the 2593 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,560 building. 2594 01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:01,954 >> Okay. Thank you ma'am. Let 2595 01:48:01,954 --> 01:48:03,440 [clears throat] Mr. Ring I see you and I 2596 01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:04,880 see you Mr. Cini and let's go back to 2597 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,600 our boards to handle those questions and 2598 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,840 then before we do that who over here is 2599 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,199 waiting to speak. I know I've been going 2600 01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:12,400 to that side of the room. I have a 2601 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:13,440 number of people over here too. All 2602 01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:14,560 right. So we're going to go to we're 2603 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:15,600 going to go to the boards then we'll go 2604 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,719 to Mr. Ring and then I'm going to switch 2605 01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:19,199 over to this side of the room. Uh yes 2606 01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:22,320 please Mr. Craig. So, I'll uh address a 2607 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:23,840 few of the questions uh that have been 2608 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,199 asked so far. So, um as Mitch mentioned, 2609 01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:28,719 $750,000 2610 01:48:28,719 --> 01:48:31,520 was allocated through ARPA funding. Uh 2611 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,600 the initial borrowing that was 2612 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,119 authorized by town meeting was 1 2613 01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:38,159 million. This is an additional 1.8 on 2614 01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:40,560 top of that initial 1 million. So, in 2615 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:44,400 total of direct funds, 750,000 from ARPA 2616 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,119 and pending this allocation, 2.8 total 2617 01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:49,360 through the town meeting. Uh in addition 2618 01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,080 to the other smaller capital investments 2619 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,920 that were mentioned uh for the vault and 2620 01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,320 other uses as well as grants, uh the 2621 01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,560 town received a grant to go toward the 2622 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,880 windows. As Mitch mentioned, the town is 2623 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,159 actively pursuing and active 2624 01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:04,000 conversations with the green communities 2625 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,480 program which could grant anywhere from 2626 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:09,679 $250 to $500,000 toward the project were 2627 01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:12,239 it to be approved. Uh and it is in 2628 01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,320 alignment with the values of that 2629 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,320 program. In addition to that, you know, 2630 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,800 half my title, it is my job as well to 2631 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,800 look for additional grants for this 2632 01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,440 project and I continue to pursue that as 2633 01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:26,159 it relates to the resultant uh costs, 2634 01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:27,840 the total costs of the project as well 2635 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,520 as the cost estimate that's before us 2636 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,239 today. Uh this project when it was 2637 01:49:32,239 --> 01:49:33,520 originally brought before the town 2638 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,520 meeting had not yet gone through the 2639 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,280 comprehensive design process which is 2640 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,600 now at 95% for the building. We're 2641 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,239 finalizing bid documents now. Um so at 2642 01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:44,080 that time the full cost of the project 2643 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,320 was not known nor was it confidently 2644 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,320 estimated based on the assessments that 2645 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,080 have been done to date mainly with 2646 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,320 internal staff. Uh this number that's 2647 01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,119 before you today is at the result of um 2648 01:49:55,119 --> 01:49:57,360 spending lots of time and effort amongst 2649 01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,719 the DPW and others in town hall uh with 2650 01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:02,400 a design engineer to get to the point 2651 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:06,560 that we're at today. Um that bid process 2652 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,159 will be conducted pending this 2653 01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:10,639 allocation uh this fall and that's 2654 01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:12,400 really when we know those hard numbers 2655 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:13,760 because we do not yet have a 2656 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,760 construction contract. We don't know 2657 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,760 what that construction budget will be. 2658 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,000 Uh but we do have a cost estimate that 2659 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,080 this allocation is based on that was 2660 01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,800 developed based on those 95% design 2661 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,080 plans. Um, and as far as total uh 2662 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,760 eventual time in this building, as I 2663 01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,880 mentioned in my comments, uh the cost of 2664 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,040 a more extensive renovation of an 2665 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,199 existing building or construction of a 2666 01:50:37,199 --> 01:50:39,920 new building would be much uh much more 2667 01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,600 expensive uh than what's before you 2668 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,600 tonight and maybe before you at any 2669 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:44,800 point in the future for any other 2670 01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,080 building renovations for other 2671 01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,239 properties in town. Um, if you think 2672 01:50:48,239 --> 01:50:50,960 back to the DPW facility, uh, the cost 2673 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,199 per square foot for that building would 2674 01:50:53,199 --> 01:50:55,679 be considerably lower than you what you 2675 01:50:55,679 --> 01:50:57,280 would see in fully occupied space 2676 01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:58,800 because that building contains quite a 2677 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,639 bit of garage space and other open 2678 01:51:00,639 --> 01:51:03,760 workshop space. Whereas fully furnished 2679 01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,760 interior office space is much more 2680 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,159 expensive to build. Uh, and therefore 2681 01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:10,560 we're uh, we're not putting an option 2682 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,080 like that before you today because it 2683 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,560 would be untenable uh, with the current 2684 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,280 uh, allocations. Thank you, Mr. Craig. 2685 01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,040 Uh, Mr. Ring, and just so I can see 2686 01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,360 again who's waiting over here. 2687 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,679 >> Oh, you I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 2688 01:51:23,679 --> 01:51:25,440 >> To address the remediation question, the 2689 01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:27,360 town does intend to be strategic in how 2690 01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:28,880 it does it. There are a number of areas 2691 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,040 because we are removing the uh forced 2692 01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:32,480 hot water system. So, we have those 2693 01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:33,920 registers, the heat registers that are 2694 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,520 throughout the building. As those are 2695 01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,679 removed, the tiling on the floor around 2696 01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:40,080 and under them will be impacted uh as 2697 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,080 will any area where there are punctures 2698 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,440 made through the floors or the ceilings 2699 01:51:43,440 --> 01:51:45,280 that need to be addressed. The most 2700 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,679 significant area uh where there is 2701 01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:49,920 asbestous is it is sprayed on the 2702 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,239 ceilings. So on the main level and the 2703 01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:53,679 lower level when you go into town hall 2704 01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:55,760 you see the drop ceiling a couple feet 2705 01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,239 above that it is sprayed on. So if you 2706 01:51:58,239 --> 01:52:00,400 were to shift one of those tiles now it 2707 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:01,760 would look like white dust that's 2708 01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:03,119 falling. It's not white dust it's 2709 01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:05,679 asbestous coming down from it. There are 2710 01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:07,280 exposed areas of asbestous. if you were 2711 01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,040 to go into the boiler room or you go to 2712 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,440 go into the um clerk's vault in the 2713 01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:13,520 basement that is fully exposed and you 2714 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,280 look up it's sprayed on the ceiling 2715 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,119 that's that's what's there all of that 2716 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,440 does need to be remediated 2717 01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:24,629 >> thank you Mr. V Mr. Ring 2718 01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:27,040 » Jonathan Ring 9 Pools Lane. Um will 2719 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,560 there be any increase in property taxes 2720 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,520 um as a result of this project or and or 2721 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,760 this um motion? Um and if so, what would 2722 01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,440 the increase be? 2723 01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:40,080 >> Thank you. 2724 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,159 Mr. Ring. Uh you want to 2725 01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:43,199 handle that quickly and then we're going 2726 01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:44,000 to go over here. 2727 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,760 >> So this is uh borrowing that would be 2728 01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,239 addressed and handled through the uh 2729 01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:50,239 general fund operating budget. The town 2730 01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:52,960 does have uh some older borrowings that 2731 01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,040 are coming off of the tax rate now. So 2732 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:56,719 we will see a slight dip. These will 2733 01:52:56,719 --> 01:52:58,320 come on. We could not pin an exact 2734 01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,400 number now, but we have some debt coming 2735 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,719 off. It's being fully amortized this 2736 01:53:02,719 --> 01:53:05,199 cycle. U so this would add back a bit, 2737 01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:06,400 but it would not necessarily be on top 2738 01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,840 of that. So we're at a point where we're have some coming off and we're 2739 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,440 adding a bit back on. 2740 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:12,719 >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Vieira. And 2741 01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:14,400 I'm sorry my voters on this side. All 2742 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,119 right. Uh see, Mr. 2743 01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:21,030 you, sir. 2744 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,840 And then this gentleman, 2745 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:25,599 >> I'm sorry. Did you This right here 2746 01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:27,199 first. 2747 01:53:27,199 --> 01:53:28,800 >> Yeah. 2748 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,520 >> Is that We're just gonna start here. 2749 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,040 >> That's where we're starting. 2750 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,400 >> Can you hear me? Christine Downing. Um 2751 01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,840 the 19 Parker Street. Uh I have two 2752 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,920 things to talk about. One of them is a 2753 01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,599 question about the renovation and um it 2754 01:53:45,599 --> 01:53:47,840 mentioned that it's moving toward you're 2755 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:50,320 moving toward electri um using 2756 01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,480 electricity which I assume has to do 2757 01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:55,520 with getting rid of forest hot water but 2758 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,639 you didn't say um what if that's solar 2759 01:53:58,639 --> 01:54:01,360 that you're moving to as a source or 2760 01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,480 heat pumps. Um that's just the first 2761 01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:06,239 piece. 2762 01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:09,920 Um, my main point is really this, which 2763 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,960 I'll read. Um, town hall is not required 2764 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,520 to comply with the lighting bylaws that 2765 01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,000 govern the rest of us because they only 2766 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,880 apply to the exterior uh exterior 2767 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,080 residential lighting. Uh, this has to do 2768 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,920 with, it seems minor given the context 2769 01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,080 here, but we have more than one project 2770 01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:31,599 on the table that has to do with um 2771 01:54:31,599 --> 01:54:34,560 replacement LEDs and overlighting areas 2772 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,040 at night. So, this just has to do with 2773 01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:40,000 the the uh lights that are going to be 2774 01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,560 on town hall. 2775 01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,320 Let's see. The upgrade plan for town 2776 01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,960 hall could have considered clear um the 2777 01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,920 clear preference for dark sky compliance 2778 01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,400 that was expressed by residents in the 2779 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,080 select survey this spring, but it 2780 01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,119 didn't. that proved new exterior light 2781 01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:00,800 fixtures are not dark sky compliant. 2782 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,800 Because new exterior lamps for town hall 2783 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,920 are not dark dark sky compliant, I was 2784 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,000 hoping to amend article F, but that's 2785 01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,760 not really possible for several reasons 2786 01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,000 which I won't go into now. However, 2787 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,360 since article F asks for more money for 2788 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,840 the renovation of town hall, this is an 2789 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,760 opportunity to make the exterior lights 2790 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,040 on town hall dark sky compliant. 2791 01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,199 Um, the new fixtures have not been 2792 01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:27,920 installed yet. I checked with the source 2793 01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:29,920 of suitable exterior fixtures and 2794 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,800 learned that dark sky modules or shields 2795 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,599 can be purchased for almost any fixtures 2796 01:55:35,599 --> 01:55:39,520 of um the source that I talked to. So, 2797 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:44,480 that perhaps that's a way to modify the um 2798 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,520 lamps that have been chosen that are not 2799 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,760 dark sky compliant. If the new 2800 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,199 non-compliant fixtures have been 2801 01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:53,599 ordered, they can be returned or adapted 2802 01:55:53,599 --> 01:55:57,119 with shield mo modules um in addition to 2803 01:55:57,119 --> 01:55:59,760 adding dimmer. That's that's it. Thank 2804 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:00,159 you. 2805 01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:02,480 >> Uh thank you, Miss Downing. This 2806 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:03,360 gentleman [clears throat] right here in 2807 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:04,960 the blue shirt and then we'll go to Mr. 2808 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,920 Micas. 2809 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,719 >> Thank you. Uh Mike Buché, one Twin Light 2810 01:56:10,719 --> 01:56:11,840 Circle. Uh 2811 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:12,880 >> I think what most of us 2812 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,639 >> The beard threw me off, Mike. I'm sorry. 2813 01:56:14,639 --> 01:56:15,119 >> What's that? 2814 01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:16,800 >> The beard threw me off and it 2815 01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,360 >> Sorry about that. Sorry. Um I think what 2816 01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:20,880 most of us want to know and you you 2817 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,719 partly answered this so but I just want 2818 01:56:22,719 --> 01:56:24,480 to kind of go over it a little bit 2819 01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,119 further. So total this project sounds 2820 01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:29,520 like it's costing about $3 million 2.9 2821 01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,920 something like that right? Uh you 2822 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,520 mentioned that um you you've got this 2823 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,480 design people who you've already you 2824 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,000 completed but you didn't really 2825 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,760 understand these cost overruns because 2826 01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,719 you really didn't complete the design. 2827 01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:46,800 Um, but you came to the town for more 2828 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,440 money or not more money for money prior 2829 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,360 to that. So, I'm trying to understand 2830 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,040 the process. I think a lot of us are 2831 01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,785 trying to understand the process. 2832 01:56:55,785 --> 01:56:56,960 [clears throat] Now, you're coming to us 2833 01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:00,080 for basically double of what the 2834 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:04,080 original number was you came for. And as 2835 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,080 was mentioned by Mr. ring. We wanted to 2836 01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,159 know if it was going to increase our 2837 01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:09,920 taxes, 2838 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,159 but you haven't put it out to bid yet, 2839 01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:13,840 but you're asking for the money before 2840 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,560 you even put it out to bid. 2841 01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,440 Maybe I'm missing something. I think we 2842 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,920 all want to understand the process. We 2843 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,960 just got hit with humongous water bills 2844 01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,920 recently. I think probably everybody 2845 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,480 here would agree with me on that. And so 2846 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,400 now we're being asked for a whole bunch 2847 01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,320 more money. 2848 01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,920 And we really want to make sure 2849 01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:45,119 we tr I let me say one other thing. We think you all need an upgraded town 2850 01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,679 hall. But one of the questions was and 2851 01:57:47,679 --> 01:57:52,080 this may you you gave an answer about oh 2852 01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,000 uh you know if we were to replace the 2853 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,000 building or move the building or 2854 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,679 whatever it would cost a lot more but 2855 01:57:57,679 --> 01:57:58,960 you didn't really put any numbers to 2856 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,520 that. So the question is if we were to 2857 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,599 tear down the building and maybe it's 2858 01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:05,440 too late for that, but if we were to 2859 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,119 tear down the building and replace it, 2860 01:58:07,119 --> 01:58:10,480 did anybody look at that? Or if we were 2861 01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:17,280 to tear down the building and put the new town hall up at the DPW barn, 2862 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,280 what would the cost of that be? So did 2863 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:23,280 anybody look at these things? That's all I'm asking. I think that's what most 2864 01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,679 people want to know is answers to those 2865 01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:26,880 questions. Thank you. [clears throat] 2866 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,239 >> Thank you, Mr. Buchet. That is a pretty 2867 01:58:28,239 --> 01:58:29,679 big list. So I'm going to return to the 2868 01:58:29,679 --> 01:58:30,800 departments and then we'll get to you 2869 01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:32,320 Mr. Micas after they've had a chance to 2870 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:36,310 field that [cough and clears throat] 2871 01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:40,550 and I see you Mr. Ar. 2872 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,000 » Yeah. So I'll start with the last one 2873 01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,840 and work work my way backward toward the 2874 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,400 dark sky question. Um regarding the 2875 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,320 timeline of funding um just for 2876 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,719 clarity's sake. The initial allocation 2877 01:58:50,719 --> 01:58:52,639 from the town meeting that 1 million 2878 01:58:52,639 --> 01:58:55,360 helped pay for the design engineer. Um, 2879 01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,599 so they had not yet been engaged at the 2880 01:58:57,599 --> 01:58:59,520 point of that initial ask at town 2881 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,239 meeting for $1 million. Um, and then as 2882 01:59:02,239 --> 01:59:06,239 far as uh tearown costs, um, very 2883 01:59:06,239 --> 01:59:08,480 conservative estimates just based on par 2884 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:11,040 square footage cost. We'd say probably 2885 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,199 about $20 million to build a new 2886 01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:15,040 building that meets all of the office 2887 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,159 requirements. Um, there may be some cost 2888 01:59:18,159 --> 01:59:20,000 change between building in the downtown 2889 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,159 versus building on Upper Main Street or 2890 01:59:22,159 --> 01:59:23,840 elsewhere in town just because of 2891 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:25,360 historical requirements, but for the 2892 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:26,800 most part, that's kind of a good number 2893 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:29,199 to to keep in your head as far as what a 2894 01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:31,840 full tear down, renovation, rebuild, uh, 2895 01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,920 would look like. And then as far as the 2896 01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,639 bids not going out yet and us not having 2897 01:59:36,639 --> 01:59:38,400 that final number to bring before you 2898 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,360 tonight, um, in municipal finance in 2899 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:44,080 general, we're not able to issue a bid 2900 01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,280 until we have that money on hand to be 2901 01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:50,639 able to pay a p potential contractor who 2902 01:59:50,639 --> 01:59:52,639 would receive that contract. So, we're 2903 01:59:52,639 --> 01:59:54,480 not able to contract yet because we 2904 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:55,840 don't have the money sitting in the 2905 01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,840 pocket, so to speak, uh, to be able to 2906 01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,520 pay them. And that's a standard of 2907 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,760 municipal finance. Um, if you think of 2908 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,719 other, you know, significant projects, 2909 02:00:04,719 --> 02:00:07,440 the DPW facility being one of them, all 2910 02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,080 of those requests for funding came prior 2911 02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,280 to the bid. Um, and then what remained 2912 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,679 for available funding after that bid 2913 02:00:15,679 --> 02:00:17,920 cost was used as contingency throughout 2914 02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,960 the project to hold in reserve as it 2915 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,520 relates to uh the dark side sky 2916 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,080 compliance. Um I spent some time uh 2917 02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,000 going over this uh with project team as 2918 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,159 well as myself over the last couple days 2919 02:00:30,159 --> 02:00:32,560 knowing that this would be a subject of 2920 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,119 discussion. Um in reviewing the dark sky 2921 02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:38,239 approved program uh they have a list of 2922 02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:41,199 lights that are you know their sort of 2923 02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:43,679 checkbox so to speak uh lights that are 2924 02:00:43,679 --> 02:00:45,599 approved. Uh none of those met the 2925 02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:47,599 design uh that was approved by the 2926 02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:49,280 historical commission. So that 2927 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,560 particular route of a truly approved 2928 02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:55,119 lighting um would not be possible. 2929 02:00:55,119 --> 02:00:57,199 However, the town would be able to meet 2930 02:00:57,199 --> 02:00:59,280 the sort of spirit so to speak behind 2931 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,920 that. So based on their designations 2932 02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:03,679 associated with their commercial 2933 02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:06,480 lighting standards u not directing light 2934 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,040 outward and limiting the total amount of 2935 02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,760 light emitted uh by those fixtures. the 2936 02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:14,000 town could use a combination of uh 2937 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:15,760 capped style bulbs that essentially 2938 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:18,000 don't allow any light to be elid emitted 2939 02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:20,800 above a parallel grade from the light 2940 02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:23,360 which is in there the dark sky standards 2941 02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,119 um as well as limiting the total amount 2942 02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:27,520 of light issued by those. Um, and then 2943 02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,040 in review, because I know there was 2944 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:30,800 discussion about complying with the 2945 02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,119 residential bylaw as well, uh, we've 2946 02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:35,840 been able to find, uh, bulbs of that 2947 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:37,679 type of that capped style that don't 2948 02:01:37,679 --> 02:01:40,000 emit upward light, uh, that are below 2949 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:42,800 the 2750 Kelvin that's mentioned in the 2950 02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,360 residential bylaw. uh the town, the 2951 02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:47,199 select board uh will be making a variety 2952 02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:49,119 of design decisions associated with you 2953 02:01:49,119 --> 02:01:50,719 know interior paint color and some of 2954 02:01:50,719 --> 02:01:52,800 that uh you know relatively mundane 2955 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,320 stuff that you know you don't notice 2956 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,159 after 5 years but you definitely notice 2957 02:01:56,159 --> 02:01:57,520 uh when you first move back into the 2958 02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,920 building. Um so we'll be finalizing 2959 02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:02,880 those specific bulbs that get used uh in 2960 02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,560 the existing fixtures that have been 2961 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,960 approved by the historic commission at 2962 02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:08,719 that time. Um so I would encourage 2963 02:02:08,719 --> 02:02:10,960 engagement through that process. Um, but 2964 02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:12,880 that's the the thought process of the 2965 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:14,639 project team as of right now is to be 2966 02:02:14,639 --> 02:02:16,400 able to pick bulbs that don't emit that 2967 02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,639 upward light that limit the total amount 2968 02:02:18,639 --> 02:02:20,800 of light that they emit and that are 2969 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:23,199 below that 2750 established in the 2970 02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:25,599 residential bylaw. 2971 02:02:25,599 --> 02:02:28,480 >> Uh, thank you Mr. Craig, Mr. Micas. And 2972 02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:34,149 we've got a mic coming down. 2973 02:02:34,159 --> 02:02:38,480 » Thank you, Tom Mikas 73 Marian. 2974 02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,159 Well, I attended the historic commission 2975 02:02:40,159 --> 02:02:41,760 meeting when they presented the uh the 2976 02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,599 lighting options and it was obvious that 2977 02:02:43,599 --> 02:02:46,320 it it didn't meet the residential um 2978 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:47,840 bylaw 2979 02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,480 and I was surprised because the DPW 2980 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,560 facility newly constructed does meet 2981 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,639 that and I think it sets a good example 2982 02:02:54,639 --> 02:02:56,639 for for the residents. The town should 2983 02:02:56,639 --> 02:03:00,239 set a good example and question why the 2984 02:03:00,239 --> 02:03:02,719 presented fixtures um to the historical 2985 02:03:02,719 --> 02:03:04,639 commission did not meet it. The answer 2986 02:03:04,639 --> 02:03:07,360 was because we don't have to. That's the 2987 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:08,960 wrong answer. If I can get a firm 2988 02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,040 commitment that they are going to try to 2989 02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,719 meet that bylaw requirement, 2990 02:03:14,719 --> 02:03:16,480 uh, I I'd be happy to vote for this. 2991 02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:18,239 Otherwise, I'm going to vote no in front 2992 02:03:18,239 --> 02:03:20,000 protest. 2993 02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,960 >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mikas. Is anybody Mr. 2994 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,040 Oin has got his hand up. Is anybody who 2995 02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:29,599 hasn't yet spoken today wish to speak? 2996 02:03:29,599 --> 02:03:31,199 >> Where? 2997 02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:34,320 Oh, uh, Mr. Valentin. 2998 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:44,870 Oh, Laura, Miss Evans, I'm sorry. 2999 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,440 Uh Laura Evans, speaking for myself at 3000 02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:51,760 77 High Street, I urge people to support 3001 02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:53,520 uh this this funding. I think it's 3002 02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:55,679 unconscionable would be unconscionable 3003 02:03:55,679 --> 02:03:58,800 of us to ask our employees to be working 3004 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,119 in an unsafe and to continue to work in 3005 02:04:01,119 --> 02:04:04,480 an unsafe environment. Um, I think the 3006 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:06,639 other thing that would benefit all of us 3007 02:04:06,639 --> 02:04:09,280 is the capability once this building is 3008 02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,599 renovated, we'll be able to meet in 3009 02:04:11,599 --> 02:04:13,119 boards and commissions can meet in 3010 02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:14,960 person again in meeting room A in a 3011 02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:18,000 hybrid fashion. And it's been years, 3012 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,080 it's been since CO since we've been able 3013 02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,360 to do that. On the lighting issue, uh, 3014 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:24,639 what we're talking about, my 3015 02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:26,400 understanding is there's two lights on 3016 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,400 either side of the front door that light 3017 02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:32,639 the steps up to the front door. That's what's at issue here about the 3018 02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:36,800 lighting. Um, and the basically our town 3019 02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,520 hall is the is is our flagship. It's the 3020 02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,760 hub of the wheel of government. And I 3021 02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:43,679 think it's, you know, it's something 3022 02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:47,280 that we really really need to do. And a, 3023 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,159 as we all know, the longer we wait, this 3024 02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:52,000 has been in the planning for years. and 3025 02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,239 they've done extensive planning on how 3026 02:04:54,239 --> 02:04:56,159 all the people in town hall are going to 3027 02:04:56,159 --> 02:05:00,159 be relocated to, you know, the the um ad 3028 02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:02,320 adjunct buildings around town. And 3029 02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,080 there's extensive planning that have 3030 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:05,840 gone into it. And the longer we wait, 3031 02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:07,920 the more it's going to cost. Building 3032 02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,800 costs are just going up as we as we sit 3033 02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:14,560 here. So, I urge I urge folks to vote in 3034 02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,480 favor of this so we can get it done and 3035 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,880 we can begin the the bidding work and 3036 02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,360 actually get it done hopefully dur 3037 02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:23,360 started during the cold weather. Thank 3038 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:23,920 you. 3039 02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:25,679 >> Thank you, Miss Evans. Anyone who hasn't 3040 02:05:25,679 --> 02:05:28,480 spoken yet tonight who wishes to speak 3041 02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,599 and I'm vision challenged. No. No. All 3042 02:05:31,599 --> 02:05:37,669 right, Mr. Arcinian. 3043 02:05:37,679 --> 02:05:39,440 And don't be afraid to shout if I'm not 3044 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:40,960 seeing you. Get my attention if you're 3045 02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:42,239 trying to speak and I'm not seeing you. 3046 02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:43,199 Please. 3047 02:05:43,199 --> 02:05:46,400 >> Toby Arcenian 95 Granite Street. Uh what 3048 02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:48,560 Denise Donnelly had to say about the 3049 02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,599 bond rating is reassuring and what Mitch 3050 02:05:51,599 --> 02:05:54,480 Vieira told Jonathan Ring about the tax 3051 02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,920 rate is also reassuring. But certainly 3052 02:05:57,920 --> 02:05:59,840 it would have been better and fairer if 3053 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,159 we had been given the total cost at the 3054 02:06:02,159 --> 02:06:05,119 beginning. Perhaps that wasn't possible. 3055 02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:07,199 And perhaps if there is another large 3056 02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:10,560 project, God forbid, um we'd learn 3057 02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,800 something from uh the way this one went 3058 02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:14,560 forward. 3059 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,480 Saying that, I think that what Laura 3060 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:18,480 Evans said about the safety of the 3061 02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,199 employees, uh what Melanie said about 3062 02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:23,520 the safety employees carries the day. 3063 02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:25,520 We're halfway across the stream and 3064 02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,080 there's no going back. I think we have 3065 02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:31,119 to grit our teeth and hold our noses and 3066 02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:34,000 vote for it. Anytime that we're being 3067 02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,280 asked to uh add to the town debt, I 3068 02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,360 think we should be told the total debt 3069 02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,920 at the moment. Uh and I spoke with 3070 02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,000 Carrie Arnode and she can give us a 3071 02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:45,840 figure. That's all. 3072 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,880 >> Thank you, Mr. Arinian. 3073 02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,400 Further discussion? Yes, sir. I'll get 3074 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,079 to you unless there's someone who hasn't 3075 02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:54,320 yet spoken yet and this woman I don't 3076 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:55,520 believe you've spoken yet. Is that 3077 02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:56,159 right? 3078 02:06:56,159 --> 02:06:58,000 >> I didn't hear the answer to my question. 3079 02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:59,840 >> Oh, you did? Okay. I'm sorry. Restate 3080 02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:00,880 your question. I'm going to go to this 3081 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:04,159 gentleman. Yep. Um, how long are we 3082 02:07:04,159 --> 02:07:06,800 planning to stay in town hall after the 3083 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:08,480 renovations? Has there a commitment to 3084 02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:08,960 that? 3085 02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,920 >> Okay. Thank you. And sir, 3086 02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:13,440 this gentleman right here. Thank you, 3087 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,000 Emil. 3088 02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,079 >> Yes. Steve Trident of 15 Sandy Bay 3089 02:07:16,079 --> 02:07:19,040 Terrace. Um, I still haven't got an 3090 02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,320 answer to the question. You folks about 3091 02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:26,079 the total cost. We're only seeing this. 3092 02:07:26,079 --> 02:07:29,119 A man over there estimated and you said 3093 02:07:29,119 --> 02:07:32,480 that you paid a million dollars for the 3094 02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:33,920 design. 3095 02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,480 >> Well, what hang on. We're not going to 3096 02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:38,400 have Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. 3097 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:40,320 >> Okay. I'm just confused. We don't have 3098 02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:41,119 anything to 3099 02:07:41,119 --> 02:07:42,239 >> That's great. Let me just explain 3100 02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:43,679 something. [clears throat] We can't 3101 02:07:43,679 --> 02:07:45,199 start having back and forth because 3102 02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:47,119 it'll become chaotic. But I do want you 3103 02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:48,480 to get your question out and then we're 3104 02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:49,840 going to try our best to get an answer 3105 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:50,719 for you. Okay. 3106 02:07:50,719 --> 02:07:54,320 >> Okay. So I would just my question is 3107 02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,679 what is the total cost over the period 3108 02:07:57,679 --> 02:08:00,719 of the two years of construction? How 3109 02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:04,159 has that been assessed? And I also want 3110 02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:06,880 to say that it is important that we have 3111 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,639 a better town hall. I don't think 3112 02:08:08,639 --> 02:08:11,119 anybody here disagrees with that and we 3113 02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:13,679 care about the health, but I think it's 3114 02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:15,199 unconscionable 3115 02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:18,159 not to be accountable to residents 3116 02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:21,360 financially by giving us the statements, 3117 02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,920 the data, and all that ahead of time. 3118 02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:25,679 And I'm not voting for it. 3119 02:08:25,679 --> 02:08:26,800 >> Okay. Uh [clears throat] thank you, sir. 3120 02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,199 With those points in mind, uh can we go 3121 02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:32,239 back to the boards, please? Speaking uh 3122 02:08:32,239 --> 02:08:34,320 regarding how long the town intends to 3123 02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,280 stay in in town hall, um I'm unaware 3124 02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:39,280 that the town has any plans to go 3125 02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:40,800 anywhere from town hall in the 3126 02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,880 foreseeable future. And unless the 3127 02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:44,320 select board sees that differently, my 3128 02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:46,639 understanding is this is the town hall 3129 02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:48,960 for the long haul. This is the town 3130 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,310 hall. 3131 02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:53,440 » Mr. Craig. 3132 02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:55,599 >> Yeah. regarding uh the funding for the 3133 02:08:55,599 --> 02:08:58,079 project. So, as I mentioned with the the 3134 02:08:58,079 --> 02:08:59,920 1 million initial allocation, this 3135 02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:03,119 additional 1.8 and the 750,000 3136 02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:06,880 from ARPA, you we're in the range of 3137 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:10,400 right around 3.6 million total. Uh you 3138 02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,719 add in the the miscellaneous uh grant 3139 02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:14,560 funding and other capital allocation 3140 02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,400 closer to 3.9 total uh expected. And as 3141 02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,400 I mentioned, once those bids uh have 3142 02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,400 been put out and come back, we will have 3143 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,119 a firm number. Um, and that will be the 3144 02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:26,639 award of that bid is something that the 3145 02:09:26,639 --> 02:09:28,480 select board uh does under their 3146 02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:29,760 jurisdiction. So, if you're interested 3147 02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:31,920 in what that exact number ends up being 3148 02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:33,440 at the end of that, um, that's 3149 02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,440 definitely something to tune in on. Um, 3150 02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,760 as as far as my statement regarding the 3151 02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:40,719 funding for uh design being part of 3152 02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:43,840 those initial ARPA and 1 million, um, I 3153 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:45,760 was saying that that money for design 3154 02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,599 came from that pot, not that that's 3155 02:09:47,599 --> 02:09:50,239 where all that money went. Um, at the 3156 02:09:50,239 --> 02:09:53,440 time, uh, we released an RFP, uh, for a 3157 02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:55,199 design engineer through the 3158 02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:57,440 Massachusetts state procurement process. 3159 02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,520 We at that time were estimating based on 3160 02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:02,480 the lower number of about$ 1.8 8 to2 3161 02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:04,560 million project total because that 3162 02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,040 design phase had not occurred. So our 3163 02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,880 contract with the design engineer was 3164 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,079 round about $175,000. 3165 02:10:12,079 --> 02:10:15,520 Um so the money that has been spent to 3166 02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:19,440 date on gathering this to 95% design is 3167 02:10:19,440 --> 02:10:21,840 around about that number. Um so that's 3168 02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,320 uh how much has been spent uh so far 3169 02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:26,719 specifically for design engineering and 3170 02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:28,400 the cost estimation that's been 3171 02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:29,599 conducted to date. 3172 02:10:29,599 --> 02:10:31,119 >> Uh thank you Mr. Craig. Would you just 3173 02:10:31,119 --> 02:10:33,760 take 30 seconds to again reiterate the 3174 02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,320 restrictions on municipal financing and 3175 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:38,159 getting contracts out for bid just in 3176 02:10:38,159 --> 02:10:39,360 case there's any confusion? 3177 02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,960 >> Yeah, certainly. So, we cannot issue 3178 02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:43,280 contracts unless the money has already 3179 02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,360 been uh allocated through the town 3180 02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:48,239 meeting or through other uh purposes uh 3181 02:10:48,239 --> 02:10:50,480 to be able to get that funding. So, uh 3182 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,400 essentially you you need to have a 3183 02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:53,920 mortgage lined up for your house before 3184 02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:55,520 you can buy it type thing. We're the 3185 02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,760 same way as a community uh that we need 3186 02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,000 you, the voters, to approve funding 3187 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,880 before we, the practitioners, so to 3188 02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,440 speak, are able to work with a uh 3189 02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:06,960 through the bid process and then have 3190 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:08,800 the select board award the contract for 3191 02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,480 construction. 3192 02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:12,800 >> Thank you, Mr. Craig. [clears throat] 3193 02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,760 Discussion. Oh, this Yes, ma'am. 3194 02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:18,960 >> Hi, Marin Woodro, 8 alpaca court. Um, I 3195 02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:20,079 don't know if you can put the screen 3196 02:11:20,079 --> 02:11:22,239 back up, but you had kind of a a pick 3197 02:11:22,239 --> 02:11:24,000 list of everything that had to be done 3198 02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:29,280 in this renovation. And I guess what I'm trying to understand is why is this 3199 02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:32,000 an all ornone project? And I'm I'm new 3200 02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:34,400 to um town meetings and how these go, 3201 02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:36,560 but in the previous articles, you had 3202 02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:38,480 allocations of money that was split up 3203 02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:42,880 from a fund to fund certain projects. So 3204 02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,560 you're correct in when you do uh 3205 02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,159 municipal bids because I work for the 3206 02:11:46,159 --> 02:11:48,400 state and we work through combines too 3207 02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:51,280 is that when we have cap funds uh we may 3208 02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,199 have a certain amount of money um for 3209 02:11:53,199 --> 02:11:55,199 our division and we can do like a roof 3210 02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:57,040 repair or we can do you know the 3211 02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:59,199 carpeting we've had asbesus abatement 3212 02:11:59,199 --> 02:12:01,920 too but we get it in smaller increments. 3213 02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:04,960 Um so my question is why you're talking 3214 02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,199 about 1.8 million for a project that you 3215 02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:08,639 don't even know what it actually costs 3216 02:12:08,639 --> 02:12:12,079 which each detail on this costs. So if 3217 02:12:12,079 --> 02:12:14,639 you came back and you said that those 1 3218 02:12:14,639 --> 02:12:17,920 2 3 four five six seven maybe more on 3219 02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,239 the next projects caught and each one 3220 02:12:20,239 --> 02:12:22,960 costs a different amount of money and 3221 02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:24,480 then all of us could sit in this room 3222 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,800 and decide if that was worthy of 3223 02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:29,119 increasing our tax dollars. I think it 3224 02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:31,520 would be easier for us to have that that 3225 02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,199 decision. 3226 02:12:33,199 --> 02:12:38,000 So I don't know if that's possible and again I'm new to town meetings so I 3227 02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,679 so maybe somebody can help me out from 3228 02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:43,280 here. I don't know if there's a way to 3229 02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:46,560 um to to pick and I know that you don't 3230 02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,119 have costs yet, but when you say I can't 3231 02:12:49,119 --> 02:12:51,840 go to Combis and put out a contract 3232 02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:53,440 there because I have to have all the 3233 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,679 money in order to have a developer do 3234 02:12:55,679 --> 02:12:58,239 it. Well, if you have $1.8 million, you 3235 02:12:58,239 --> 02:12:59,440 can go out and you can say, "Well, how 3236 02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:00,480 much is it going to cost for the 3237 02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:03,360 hazardous material abatement? I think I 3238 02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:05,119 have a million dollars that I'm going to 3239 02:13:05,119 --> 02:13:06,880 put out for it." And you're going to see 3240 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:08,639 what kind of bids you get back. And if 3241 02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:10,000 you don't have any bids that you like, 3242 02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,159 you can actually deny it and you can 3243 02:13:12,159 --> 02:13:14,800 redo the bid. 3244 02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:18,320 So, so you can get costs for us by 3245 02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:23,589 breaking this up into smaller projects. 3246 02:13:23,599 --> 02:13:25,440 I'm going to see if I can get answers 3247 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:27,040 for you on that. I don't know. But I 3248 02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,119 think CPC is a completely different 3249 02:13:29,119 --> 02:13:31,040 animal, but I'll let people with more 3250 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:32,639 background explain that. Let me see if 3251 02:13:32,639 --> 02:13:34,320 there's any other points that I can get 3252 02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:36,239 teed up before we return to the boards 3253 02:13:36,239 --> 02:13:37,920 again. 3254 02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,239 Where you? Oh, 3255 02:13:40,239 --> 02:13:55,430 >> Mr. Buchanan. 3256 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,000 » Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Um, 3257 02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:00,480 Courtney Buchanan 10 Doc Square. This is 3258 02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:04,079 kind of a a tough one. Um, I understand 3259 02:14:04,079 --> 02:14:07,119 the money and the lights, but all I can 3260 02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:08,560 think about is the white dust on my 3261 02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:10,880 desk. But I did prepare something, so 3262 02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:12,960 I'm just going to read it for you guys. 3263 02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:14,800 I would like to speak in support of the 3264 02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:17,440 proposed renovation of our town hall, 3265 02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,159 particularly the removal of asbestous 3266 02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:22,320 and lead paint and the installation of 3267 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:26,400 the new HVAC system. As a town employee, 3268 02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:29,199 I believe this project is about more 3269 02:14:29,199 --> 02:14:31,440 than improving an old building. It is 3270 02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,920 about protecting the health and safety 3271 02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:37,280 of the people who work in and visit town 3272 02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:39,520 hall every day. 3273 02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:41,440 As someone who works there, this is 3274 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:43,360 something that is personally important 3275 02:14:43,360 --> 02:14:45,040 to me. 3276 02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:47,440 Abestous and lead paint are serious 3277 02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:50,639 health hazards when they are disturbed, 3278 02:14:50,639 --> 02:14:55,360 deteriorating, and improperly managed. 3279 02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:57,760 We should not wait for someone to become 3280 02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:01,520 sick before we take action. Removing 3281 02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:04,480 these hazard hazards properly and safely 3282 02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:06,960 is an important investment in the people 3283 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,599 who serve our community. 3284 02:15:09,599 --> 02:15:11,920 Town Hall is my workplace, a public 3285 02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,239 building, and an important part of our 3286 02:15:14,239 --> 02:15:16,719 community. We have a responsibility to 3287 02:15:16,719 --> 02:15:19,280 make sure it is safe in a healthy 3288 02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:21,679 environment for everyone who enters its 3289 02:15:21,679 --> 02:15:23,360 doors. 3290 02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:25,520 I understand that this is a significant 3291 02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:28,159 investment, but I believe the health and 3292 02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:30,320 safety of our employees and residents 3293 02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,560 should be a priority. 3294 02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:34,960 I respectfully ask that you support this 3295 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:37,679 project and allow these necessary health 3296 02:15:37,679 --> 02:15:40,320 and safety improvements to move forward. 3297 02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,079 >> Uh thank you, Mr. Buchanan. Let's go 3298 02:15:42,079 --> 02:15:43,599 back to the boards to see if we can 3299 02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:46,239 discuss the bid process, breaking up the 3300 02:15:46,239 --> 02:15:49,840 contract into uh various uh sub bids or 3301 02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:51,119 however you want to address that. Mr. 3302 02:15:51,119 --> 02:15:51,920 Craig, 3303 02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:54,079 >> sub bids. You got you got a a a choice 3304 02:15:54,079 --> 02:15:55,360 word there, Mr. Moderator. 3305 02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:56,000 >> Sub bid. 3306 02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:57,760 >> Uh no, that's it's a useful word. 3307 02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:00,320 Actually, I have it on my page here. Um 3308 02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:02,639 so, as it relates to the project that's 3309 02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:04,560 before you, if you might recall a few 3310 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,760 years ago, uh the town hall roof uh was 3311 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:10,320 replaced as a separate project. Um 3312 02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:11,840 typically, some of these smaller 3313 02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:14,000 projects can be done as separate 3314 02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:16,400 projects. The reason why this particular 3315 02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:18,719 project is brought to you as a 3316 02:16:18,719 --> 02:16:22,719 comprehensive overhaul is twofold. Um, 3317 02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:25,119 addressing the primary concern, the 3318 02:16:25,119 --> 02:16:27,679 health and safety of employees requires 3319 02:16:27,679 --> 02:16:29,840 the replacement of the HVAC system as 3320 02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:33,679 the primary uh cost driver associated 3321 02:16:33,679 --> 02:16:35,920 with the project. In addition to the 3322 02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:38,080 abatement, which although significant is 3323 02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,080 not nearly as expensive as the HVAC 3324 02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:43,120 system, that HVAC system requires an 3325 02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:45,439 electrical upgrade to the service of the 3326 02:16:45,439 --> 02:16:47,359 building. Um, so the actual amount of 3327 02:16:47,359 --> 02:16:49,359 power coming in from the street will 3328 02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:51,840 need to be increased. Uh, and as a 3329 02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,760 result, the backup generator will need 3330 02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:57,359 to be uh replaced uh and expanded. We'll 3331 02:16:57,359 --> 02:16:59,120 be able to reuse that generator that's 3332 02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:00,639 already on site elsewhere in the 3333 02:17:00,639 --> 02:17:03,359 community. Um and all of the internal 3334 02:17:03,359 --> 02:17:05,200 electrical for the building will be 3335 02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,200 replaced uh with code requirements as 3336 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,200 well. Uh once we hit that threshold, 3337 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:10,800 then we start getting into the the 3338 02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:12,559 mandated requirements of the ADA 3339 02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:15,040 upgrades uh that I've already discussed. 3340 02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:17,120 And in order to improve the efficiency 3341 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,679 of that new HVAC system, replacement of 3342 02:17:19,679 --> 02:17:22,800 the windows with new uh airtight uh wood 3343 02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,040 window uh replacements and doing that 3344 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:28,639 associated building envelope work. Um so 3345 02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:30,559 as it relates although these are 3346 02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:32,639 discrete parts as mentioned hazardous 3347 02:17:32,639 --> 02:17:35,439 material abatement electrical upgrade 3348 02:17:35,439 --> 02:17:38,000 etc as although they are discrete parts 3349 02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:40,000 and as the moderator mentioned uh will 3350 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,319 come in as sub bids under the general 3351 02:17:42,319 --> 02:17:45,120 contractor contract um they are very 3352 02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:47,280 much so intertwined and to do any of 3353 02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:50,160 them individually uh likely would not be 3354 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,399 cost effective uh for the project on a 3355 02:17:52,399 --> 02:17:54,559 whole. 3356 02:17:54,559 --> 02:18:01,190 >> Thank you Mr. Craig. Further discussion. 3357 02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:02,880 You you you get two shots on any 3358 02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:04,800 debatable issue, sir. I'll give you 30 3359 02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:05,760 seconds. 3360 02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:07,040 >> Oh, I'm sorry. And we have someone who 3361 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:09,280 hasn't spoken yet. Where's that? I 3362 02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:11,519 missed it. Yes. 3363 02:18:11,519 --> 02:18:14,880 >> Lori Williamson, 207 Granite Street. I 3364 02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:16,240 just wanted to address what you were 3365 02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:20,160 asking. Um, you could break this up 3366 02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:22,319 potentially into eight different 3367 02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:25,359 projects, but every single time you 3368 02:18:25,359 --> 02:18:27,679 addressed one issue, you would have to 3369 02:18:27,679 --> 02:18:30,479 move all of the employees out of town 3370 02:18:30,479 --> 02:18:34,559 hall, put them someplace else, and then 3371 02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:36,800 put them back in the building. And once 3372 02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:38,960 you start disrupting 3373 02:18:38,960 --> 02:18:40,960 the hazardous waste that's in the 3374 02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:43,200 building, 3375 02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:46,240 it's going to be everywhere. 3376 02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:49,280 So, it doesn't make sense to do this 3377 02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:52,000 peacemeal. It has to be done all at once 3378 02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:54,719 as far as I'm concerned. 3379 02:18:54,719 --> 02:18:56,880 >> Thank you, Lori. All sir, I'll give you 3380 02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:58,479 30 seconds, but I'm violating my own 3381 02:18:58,479 --> 02:18:59,040 rule. 3382 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,760 >> Okay. Again, you know, the issue is not 3383 02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:04,080 whether or not we need this work done, 3384 02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:07,040 but could we have more time before the 3385 02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:09,840 next meeting in the fall to consider 3386 02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:12,479 what the options are to break it down so 3387 02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:15,280 that the residents get actual dollars 3388 02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:17,519 and cents. Right now, tonight, I'm 3389 02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:21,679 hearing $4 million total without any 3390 02:19:21,679 --> 02:19:23,840 bids going out and without hearing from 3391 02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,880 any contractors. I'm afraid that it's 3392 02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:29,120 going to come back higher and next time 3393 02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:30,479 you're going to be asking for more 3394 02:19:30,479 --> 02:19:33,120 money. So why not wait? Has the 3395 02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:35,840 asbestous already been started? Has the 3396 02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:37,519 work been started? 3397 02:19:37,519 --> 02:19:39,200 >> Couldn't they wait another six months? 3398 02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:40,240 >> All right. Thank you, sir. I'm going to 3399 02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:41,840 now go to the boards to see if they can 3400 02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:46,389 feel that question. Thank you. 3401 02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:48,479 » Well, hold on. Hold on. I was going back 3402 02:19:48,479 --> 02:19:50,640 to them to to answer that question 3403 02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:53,520 first. 3404 02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:55,920 U my uh answer remains very much the 3405 02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:58,399 same as as stated previously. Um just to 3406 02:19:58,399 --> 02:20:00,800 add upon it uh Lori made a very good 3407 02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:02,479 point as far as the mobilization 3408 02:20:02,479 --> 02:20:05,120 associated with a phased project. Uh we 3409 02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:07,520 did consider a phased project uh when 3410 02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:09,200 having early discussions with the design 3411 02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,319 engineer but determined uh several moves 3412 02:20:12,319 --> 02:20:14,160 back and forth or partial occupancy of 3413 02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:16,080 the building would further increase 3414 02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:19,359 costs. Additionally, um given the 3415 02:20:19,359 --> 02:20:21,359 current market of construction costs, 3416 02:20:21,359 --> 02:20:23,600 current craziness associated with oil 3417 02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:26,800 notwithstanding, um there we have seen 3418 02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:28,479 significant increases across all 3419 02:20:28,479 --> 02:20:30,080 construction sectors that the town 3420 02:20:30,080 --> 02:20:32,560 participates in over the recent years 3421 02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:34,720 and to get this done as quickly as 3422 02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:36,560 possible with current year dollars uh 3423 02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:38,960 would be the most prudent option uh as 3424 02:20:38,960 --> 02:20:40,880 we the project team see it. 3425 02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:42,640 >> Thank you, Mr. Craig. I have a voter 3426 02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:46,560 here. Yes, ma'am. Amy Oaks, 18 JW 3427 02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:48,640 Street. I appreciate all the work that's 3428 02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,600 gone into this. I understand 3429 02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:55,200 um how we start asking for one amount of 3430 02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,960 money and then as we uh explore, we 3431 02:20:58,960 --> 02:21:01,600 realize the project is so much larger 3432 02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:04,880 than we anticipated. Um, I've lived in 3433 02:21:04,880 --> 02:21:08,000 Rockport for 5 years and I am still 3434 02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:10,560 shocked when I walk into town hall and 3435 02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:12,399 I'm shocked when I walk into various 3436 02:21:12,399 --> 02:21:14,960 parts of our school buildings. I think 3437 02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:16,880 that we've gotten used to a level of 3438 02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:22,309 decrepitude that's absolutely shocking. 3439 02:21:22,319 --> 02:21:25,040 We're in an absolutely beautiful part of 3440 02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:27,200 this school. This is perhaps the most 3441 02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:29,680 beautiful part of this school. 3442 02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:32,720 It's hard for me to understand how we 3443 02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:35,439 can walk into this building and feel 3444 02:21:35,439 --> 02:21:37,680 great about this town. When you look 3445 02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:41,040 around, we live in the most beautiful 3446 02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:43,359 community, but when you go into our 3447 02:21:43,359 --> 02:21:45,280 public buildings, it's as if there's 3448 02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:48,720 something wrong. I don't mistrust the 3449 02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,120 people who are doing this. I don't 3450 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,240 mistrust the process. I don't mistrust 3451 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:57,680 the bids. I don't mistrust any of this. 3452 02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:00,160 Construction is extraordinarily 3453 02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:03,120 expensive. Go out and replace an air 3454 02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:06,800 conditioner in your own home. A simple 3455 02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:09,120 little air conditioner. 3456 02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:11,520 We've replaced two in the building that 3457 02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:13,359 we live in. It used to be a public 3458 02:22:13,359 --> 02:22:15,600 building. 3459 02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:18,319 Tens of thousands of dollars for simple 3460 02:22:18,319 --> 02:22:20,640 residential air conditioners when 3461 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:24,080 there's no asbestous involved. 3462 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:25,840 The last thing I would leave you with is 3463 02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:27,600 that now that we've talked about this at 3464 02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:30,319 such great length, we've heard about the 3465 02:22:30,319 --> 02:22:33,120 asbestous, we've heard about dust on 3466 02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:35,439 people's desk, I would propose to you 3467 02:22:35,439 --> 02:22:37,840 that we have a liability issue if we do 3468 02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:40,960 not go ahead and fix this. So, I will 3469 02:22:40,960 --> 02:22:42,880 certainly vote in support of this, 3470 02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:45,120 appreciate the work that has been done. 3471 02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:49,600 I respect our our our concerns about um 3472 02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:52,000 skyrocketing costs, but I don't see how 3473 02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:54,640 we can not do this. Thank you. 3474 02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:58,479 >> Thank you, Miss Oaks. [applause] 3475 02:22:58,479 --> 02:22:59,840 >> All right. Is anybody looking to be 3476 02:22:59,840 --> 02:23:01,760 recognized? I I'm having trouble seeing. 3477 02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:07,349 Yes, Miss Wilkinson. 3478 02:23:07,359 --> 02:23:09,920 » Sarah Wilkinson, 23 Road. Can we call 3479 02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:11,120 the question? 3480 02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:15,439 >> All right. Is there a second? 3481 02:23:15,439 --> 02:23:17,680 All right. The motion for the previous 3482 02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:21,280 question uh or to uh end debate has been 3483 02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:23,539 made and seconded and is in order. 3484 02:23:23,539 --> 02:23:25,520 [clears throat] This again itself is not 3485 02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:27,680 a debatable motion. It requires a 3486 02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:29,920 twothirds vote to carry. If the motion 3487 02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:31,760 to end debate passes, we will then 3488 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,680 proceed immediately to vote on the 3489 02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:36,640 underlying uh motion under article F on 3490 02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:39,439 the $1.8 million. If the motion to end 3491 02:23:39,439 --> 02:23:40,880 debate fails, the floor will then 3492 02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:42,640 immediately be reopened for further 3493 02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:44,640 discussion on the motion made under 3494 02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:48,560 article uh F. We will vote by electronic 3495 02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:50,560 means. You will have 12 seconds from 3496 02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:52,960 when I say the words vote now. You will 3497 02:23:52,960 --> 02:23:56,240 press one or A for I. If you support the 3498 02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:59,280 motion to end debate on the underlying 3499 02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:02,479 motion, you will press two or B for no. 3500 02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:05,120 If you would if you oppose ending debate 3501 02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:07,439 and wish to continue discussing the 3502 02:24:07,439 --> 02:24:09,600 motion under article F, would anyone 3503 02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:11,680 like me to clarify the question before 3504 02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:14,800 you or how we are voting? 3505 02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:16,319 All right. 3506 02:24:16,319 --> 02:24:18,319 All those in favor of ending debate, 3507 02:24:18,319 --> 02:24:21,040 press one or A for I. All those opposed, 3508 02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:25,680 press two or B for no. Ready? Vote now. 3509 02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:32,479 Now. 10 9 8 7 Vote now. 3510 02:24:32,479 --> 02:24:41,120 4 3 2 1 stop. And that motion passes 3511 02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:45,280 >> 94% to 6% and the numerical count is 171 3512 02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:47,359 to 3513 02:24:47,359 --> 02:24:51,040 11. So now we return to the motion under 3514 02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:55,215 article F. 3515 02:24:55,225 --> 02:24:55,840 [clears throat] 3516 02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:57,840 The question before you is whether to 3517 02:24:57,840 --> 02:25:00,479 appropriate $1.8 $8 million to pay costs 3518 02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:02,000 of the town hall remediation, 3519 02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:04,640 renovation, and modernization project 3520 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:06,720 and to that end to authorize borrowing 3521 02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:08,319 by the treasurer with approval of the 3522 02:25:08,319 --> 02:25:10,640 select board as set forth on page 24 of 3523 02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:13,280 the voters's booklet. This requires a 3524 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:15,439 twothirds vote. We will vote by 3525 02:25:15,439 --> 02:25:18,000 electronic means. You will press one or 3526 02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:21,520 I A for I if you are in support of the 3527 02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:23,840 motion. You will press two or B for no 3528 02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:25,760 if you oppose the motion. Would anyone 3529 02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:27,680 like me to clarify the question or how 3530 02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:30,479 we are voting? 3531 02:25:30,479 --> 02:25:33,200 All right. All those in favor press one 3532 02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:36,319 or A for I. All those opposed, press two 3533 02:25:36,319 --> 02:25:41,439 or B for no. Ready? Vote now. Now. Now. 3534 02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:48,150 10 9 8 3535 02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:53,520 3 2 1 zero. And that motion passes 90% 3536 02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:55,359 to 10%. 3537 02:25:55,359 --> 02:25:59,520 And the numerical count is 163 to 8 3538 02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:03,040 >> to 18. All right. I believe that 3539 02:26:03,040 --> 02:26:05,359 completes the warrant. Mr. Vieira, 3540 02:26:05,359 --> 02:26:06,640 >> it does. Mr. Moderator, 3541 02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:10,000 >> is there a motion to dissolve? 3542 02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:11,680 >> Moved and seconded. The question before 3543 02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:13,200 you is whether to dissolve the meeting. 3544 02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:15,040 It requires a majority vote. All those 3545 02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:18,160 in favor say oh no. 3546 02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:21,920 >> All those opposed say Mr. Bill. 3547 02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:23,520 I hope you got that. You've got to be 3548 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:27,640 over 55 if you did.