1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,799 We'll call the meeting to order. It's 6:32. 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,240 Uh we have one absentee. That's Ashley, right? So stand for the pledge. 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:28,880 » I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 4 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:35,320 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 5 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:35,320 justice for all. 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:47,280 » All right. Uh additions to the agenda. Uh D3, 7 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:52,280 uh posting the positions for the open firefighter positions or leadership 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,280 positions. 9 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Make a motion to approve the agenda with the one addition. 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,680 » Okay. >> And I'll second it. 11 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:09,439 » All right. Motion and second to for the agenda. Any all in favor indicate by 12 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:12,159 saying I. >> I. I. 13 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:16,320 » Any nays? >> Hearing none. We'll move on to the 14 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:21,920 approval paying the bills, October bills. 15 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:28,400 I'll make a motion to approve and pay the October 2025 bills. 16 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:32,560 » I'll second it. >> Okay. Motion a second. Any further 17 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:35,680 discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor indicate by 18 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,799 saying I. >> I. 19 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:43,840 » Any nays? Hearing none. Uh consent agenda. 20 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:49,880 » Hold on for a second, Mark. I'd like the record to show that I abstain from check 21 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,880 number 23889. 22 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Thank you. >> Thanks, Brad. 23 00:01:53,439 --> 00:02:01,280 » All right. Consent agenda approval of Rockville City Council minutes from 24 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:06,159 October 8th. Uh acknowledge the 2025 building permits for October. 25 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,640 Acknowledge October 2025 sheriff's report 26 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:17,599 month end reconciliation and special event for road closure on 27 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:22,959 December 6 for the candy cane parade. Looking for a motion on this. 28 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:27,120 » Make a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. 29 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:32,319 » Second it. >> Second. Okay. Any discussion? 30 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,840 Hearing none. All in favor indicate by saying I. I 31 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:40,480 » I any nays? >> Hearing none. 32 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:45,440 » All right. Department of Report. Uh John, you're up. 33 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:51,440 » Sure. My name is Sergeant John Mimi. I'm here for behalf of uh Sean. He gave me 34 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:58,400 uh some of the uh information for October. Um there was 38 contract hours 35 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:02,800 uh that we completed. Uh for October, there's 63 36 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:09,840 calls for service. Um 33 traffic stops uh were was 37 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:15,360 conducted, one speed citation and three now uh valid driver's license citations 38 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:25,840 with portrol. Uh it looks like uh we have utilized 375 39 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:33,599 of the 456 contracted hours. So uh looks like China has a note here that we're on 40 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:38,720 track to hit that mark of 456. Thank you, John. 41 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:41,840 » Any questions for John? >> Nope. Thank you very much. 42 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:46,239 » Keep up the good work. >> Thank you. 43 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:50,239 » All right. Uh Cody for the city engineering. 44 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:55,120 » Good evening, mayor and council. First item on our list is the resolution for 45 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:59,920 the local road improvement program uh grant application. It's basically just 46 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:07,120 authorizing the pursu uh pursuit of the application that needs to be included 47 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:13,599 with our application to um MINDOT. So, we'll need a council action 48 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:19,840 uh to approve that resolution. >> Make a motion to approve resolution 49 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,000 2025-30. Okay. 50 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,000 » On the paper it says 33. Is it really 30? 51 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:36,320 It's 33. So let's go with 33, Brian. Okay. 52 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:38,479 » Okay. But the resolution on the packet has said 30. So it is going to be 33. 53 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Correct. >> 33. Correct. 54 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,120 » Okay. I will second that then. 55 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:49,440 » Okay. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? 56 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,759 Hearing none. All in favor indicate by saying I. 57 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,040 » I. >> Any nays? 58 00:04:53,840 --> 00:05:02,960 Hearing none, go on to the invoice for the second item is that uh cracks 2424 59 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:08,479 crack sealing uh invoice from Aztec that was not received previously uh until 60 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:14,880 just recently. So that was approved back in February 2024 and it's at the bid 61 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,880 price of $77,250. 62 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:30,160 Now, I'm assuming, Bobby, you guys in the office verified that this didn't get 63 00:05:27,039 --> 00:05:38,120 » paid and Yes. Okay. So, >> I guess I'll make a motion that we 64 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:38,120 approve paying the invoice of $77,250. 65 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:45,919 » And I'll second that. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? 66 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,080 » Hearing none. All in favor indicate by saying I. 67 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,240 » I. I. >> I. 68 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:57,039 » Any nays? Sure. None. Uh, anything else, Cody, at this time? 69 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:02,639 » Nothing. >> Nothing. Okay. Yep. Um, planning 70 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:06,800 commission, Mr. Becker. >> Well, we have a lot of things to cover 71 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:15,039 today. First on your agenda is a qualifying minor subdivision. It's on 72 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:22,720 page 35 and 36 of your packets. Uh, owner is a Jesse uh Johnson. uh 21859 73 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:27,759 County Road 8 uh in Cole Spring with a Cole Spring address. 74 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,759 Um planning commission is recommending approval. 75 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,720 This was something that was previously brought to the planning commission to 76 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:42,400 ask if they could split off this land and planning commission did give that 77 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:48,240 nod originally. The rest of the land that's uh part of this survey is already 78 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:52,080 in the Minnesota Land Trust. Thank you. 79 00:06:49,919 --> 00:06:55,600 » Make a motion to approve. >> I'll second that. 80 00:06:53,440 --> 00:07:00,479 » Okay. A motion and a second. Any further discussion? 81 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:06,639 » Hearing none. All indicate by saying I. >> I. Any nays? 82 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:13,680 » Okay. Bill. Secondly, uh approval of the Sticky Hill CUP extension. Uh this is on 83 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:19,919 page 37 of your packets. Um this is basically uh an extension of what they 84 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:24,479 already have for a permit. Um and they did a a presentation to the uh 85 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,160 to the planning commission and we're recommending approval. 86 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:32,000 » So the first uh time it was for 3 months. They came back and asked for an 87 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:36,319 additional 3 months plus they've uh as you can see in the picture they squares 88 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:40,720 that's the water tank that has been added to the site plan that's already up 89 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:45,840 there. >> Make a motion to approve. 90 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,840 I'll second that. >> Okay. A motion, a second. Any further 91 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,319 discussion? Hearing none. All in indicate all in 92 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,039 favor indicate by saying I. >> I. 93 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,680 » I. >> I. Any naysay? 94 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:10,080 Uh the next is a approval of an interimm use permit for 200 uh Pine Street. This 95 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:15,759 is the uh Sapaniac uh Coast Spring granted 96 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:21,599 um yearly annual uh approval for their permit. Um I did talk to a number of the 97 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:26,240 neighbors and actually one of the neighbors did present a letter to the 98 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:33,879 planning commission uh stating they were fine with this as long as we kept all 99 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:33,879 the restrictions on the permit. 100 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:39,599 We did hold a public hearing at the November 5th planning commission meeting 101 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:44,159 and so anyone was welcome to come forward and speak and no one spoke out 102 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:48,640 against it >> and you had a letter in favor as well. 103 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:53,440 Correct if I remember right. >> I'm sorry. Yeah, we recommend approval. 104 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,279 » So I just got a question for clarification. So if you look at page 105 00:08:55,519 --> 00:09:05,200 43, these highlighted areas on this map, 106 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:10,959 is that in reflect to where their con their crushing operation is? 107 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Because if you look at page 41, it's on the top of the map is where 108 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,480 they're doing all that. It's not in those highlighted areas. I'm just making 109 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,760 sure that we're got our eyes dotted and our tees 110 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,120 crossed. They explained that they're bringing 111 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:30,000 from uh the pit over to 112 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,360 downtown here for crushing. >> Yes, I know that. 113 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:36,720 » Okay. >> I No, that that's not my question. If 114 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:42,480 you look at the the if you look at the map on 41, 115 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:46,160 the highlighted area on 43 does not get back to the top of this map. And that's 116 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:51,120 where they're doing the crushing. That's the only reason I'm questioning it. Not 117 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:55,880 that somebody comes up and says, "Hey, they're in not even where they're 118 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,880 supposed to be." 119 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,440 So, if we could just get that clarified, that would be great. 120 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:08,480 » Okay. >> Otherwise, um I I make a motion that we 121 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:10,959 approve the IUP for Sopania. >> And if this goes on, this will come back 122 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,839 again in a year. >> Yeah. Yeah. 123 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:21,360 I'll second it. Okay. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? Hearing 124 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,399 none. All in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. 125 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:29,360 » I. Any naysay? Hearing none. We'll move on to the final 126 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:35,360 flat bill. Next is approval of the final plat uh RLS number 19. This is on page 127 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:40,640 45 of your packet. Uh this is the Jim and 128 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:44,519 Jackie boy uh area 129 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,800 and 130 00:10:53,839 --> 00:11:05,760 page 40. If you get to 46, that shows basically 131 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:09,200 the survey of the of RLS9 and what 132 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:12,880 what's presented to the planning commission. The track A is is correct on 133 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:16,160 this. >> Yes, track A is correct. 134 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:21,959 » is correct on this one. >> Uh so the planning commission is 135 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,959 recommending approval. 136 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,720 » Make a motion to approve. 137 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Well, actually though, don't we want to that 46? That's that would be number 138 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:41,519 five, right? >> Well, so we're we're you guys are 139 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:46,399 looking to approve the the whole final plat for RS19 and then there'll be a 140 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,880 reszone of tract A. >> Got it. Sorry. 141 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,120 » I'll I'll second that. Have >> a motion to second. Any further 142 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,560 discussion on this? >> So, what are what are they actually 143 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:04,079 looking to do on the track? Are they just 144 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:09,279 » Yep. So, right now they're looking at um trying to split up the land fairly 145 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:14,800 between the siblings. So, that way if they want to pass it down or you know, 146 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:19,760 so no development at this time. Just looking to split it up fairly between. 147 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:22,000 » So, rather than they each got a name on all of it, this way they each got their 148 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:27,519 own section. >> Yeah. Okay. 149 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:32,000 » Any other discussion? Uh hearing none. All in favor indicate 150 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,279 by saying I. >> I. 151 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:40,519 » I. Any nays? Hearing none. We'll move on. Bill 152 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,519 getting there. 153 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,839 It was there. 154 00:12:51,920 --> 00:13:00,880 Um, next is the reszone of track uh, 155 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:08,320 Diaz and David on RLS19. Um, reszone from egg 40 to R1. 156 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:15,160 And this again is Jim and Jackie Boy. Um request came through their 157 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 sando. 158 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:24,079 » Sorry. >> Actually, is it track A, not track D? 159 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:27,920 » Yes, it is track A is an apple. >> Yeah, 160 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:33,959 » this is the A. I'm sorry. >> Rather than D. And those are the uh four 161 00:13:30,959 --> 00:13:33,959 lots. 162 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:40,399 » Make them. And that was approved at the >> I'm sorry. Planning Commission is 163 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,240 recommending approval. >> I I make a motion that we followed their 164 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,760 approval. >> I'll second that. 165 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:50,760 » A motion and second. Any further discussion? 166 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,320 » Hearing none. All in favor indicate by saying I. 167 00:13:53,760 --> 00:14:00,880 » I. >> I. Any nays? 168 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:06,079 » All right. And then the last one is uh on you guys. 169 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:10,560 » Yeah. So, uh, Inspectron let us know, uh, that they were going to have a rate 170 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:15,360 increase for 2026. Council then, uh, asked me to go back and get some 171 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:19,199 clarification on what that, um, rate increase involved. And so now it's 172 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:23,920 coming back to council. Um, do you want to approve inspector or, you know, meet 173 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,920 a goal for bids for a different building inspector? 174 00:14:26,959 --> 00:14:34,480 I think talking to the workshop it kind of explained more what why the reasons 175 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:41,360 for it. So I would u make approval to uh of um inspect's rates increase for 2026. 176 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,160 I say we approve it and continue on with them. 177 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,079 » I'll second that motion. >> Yep. A motion and a second. And the rate 178 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,360 increase to me is all justified. >> Yep. Once I read it how it was justified 179 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:56,079 made more sense to me too. >> All right. We have a motion and a 180 00:14:52,560 --> 00:15:02,959 second. Any further discussion on that? All in favor indicate by saying I. I. 181 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:06,720 » Any nays? Hearing none. Bill, you're done. 182 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:11,600 » Thank you, Mr. Julie. 183 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:18,720 » All right. So, um let's see. Let's start with the new boat um is in service. 98% 184 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:23,199 of the staff has been trained on it. Um, anyone wanting to have fish fry raffle 185 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:28,320 tickets for the next year should uh get a hold of the fire personnel Friday, 186 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:32,160 March 20th. Um, that's when the fish le you can um so just that you know that 187 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:38,399 and they're available now. The fish raffle tickets. Um, 188 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,839 you can see I can talk well. Um, calls for 20 I'm just going to kind of give 189 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:45,120 you some um comparison for calls in the last three years how they have changed 190 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:53,040 that everyone kind of knows where we're at. um calls for 2023 June 1st 2023 to 191 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:59,440 December 31st of 2023 they had 139 total in 23 192 00:15:55,519 --> 00:16:07,519 January did I say June January sorry and then calls in 2024 January 1st 2024 to 193 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:14,800 December 2024 there was 148 calls so we went up you know that in the one year 194 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:22,560 again this year right now um we have calls of 2025 from January 1st of 2025 195 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:29,600 to October 31st 5th of 2025 we have 142 at the end of October 2 months left 196 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:34,880 so we are really jumping and note um approximately 10 to 12 calls given to 197 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:39,519 other departments by mistake on top of that so there was the the one out by 198 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:42,880 Loves that should have went to Rockville it didn't it went to another fire 199 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:48,560 department so and they've done that a couple times to us so Um so if you were 200 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:54,160 to add those on we are over what we did last year. So I mean these guys are on 201 00:16:50,880 --> 00:17:00,399 the move on EMR and first respond um reertification has been completed for 202 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:06,240 all staff. Uh FEMA grant from current being worked on that's FA 203 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:12,640 the new fire truck is in motion and concerning being worked on and which we 204 00:17:09,199 --> 00:17:16,880 will be um voting on that tonight. um emergency um is currently doing 205 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:21,600 tracking, testing, and inspection and some repairs. So, just so that you guys 206 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:25,760 are aware of that. Um I was at the training on Monday night for um medical. 207 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Um and I believe you're doing another one next month too on medical, right? 208 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Correct. >> Um very interesting. They did a lot on 209 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:38,960 braces and you know, wound punctures and whatnot and back braces and chair braces 210 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:44,240 and you know, when to heal people on that type situation. So it was very 211 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:49,760 interesting and I think everyone learned something you know I know I did sitting 212 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:54,720 there besides other things. So um that's where we are on those. Um so we're just 213 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,400 at the approval of the fire truck purchase contract is what we need to 214 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:04,240 look at next. >> Yeah. So last month council approved to 215 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:10,520 send the letter of intent. Uh and so now we're just asking for approval to sign 216 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,520 the purchase contract agreement. 217 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Yeah. Nothing's changed on the contract, right? No. That I saw. Okay. 218 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:25,840 » I'll make a motion that we approve. >> I can second. 219 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:30,720 » Have a motion, a second. The only discussion we're going to have is that 220 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,440 we are not going to prepay anything on that. So, we're going to sit on the 221 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,799 money and wait till >> I think we'll do like what we had talked 222 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:40,880 about before. At least that at least we know that's safe. 223 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:45,440 » Safe. Yeah. So, um, that was the only part I wanted to add to that. Um, so we 224 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,559 have a motion, a second. Any other discussion? 225 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,600 » No. >> Well, I think just to clarify that we're 226 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,640 doing that because we're going to make more money on the interest by sitting on 227 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,320 it than what we would have been prepaying for. 228 00:18:53,919 --> 00:18:59,039 » Correct. Money market account. Yes. >> And it's a little safer, too, because 229 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,559 the other company goes under. Absolutely. We're we aren't going to be 230 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:07,039 out any money. >> Okay. Um 231 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:12,000 motion a second on approving the signature on that contract for Bobby to 232 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:16,400 sign tonight. Um all in favor indicate by saying I. 233 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:22,640 » I. Any nays? >> Hearing none, we'll move on. 234 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,720 » Okay. The next item there for the fire department is uh the current relief 235 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:33,120 president Craig Cardi did come to the finance committee. Um the uh amount for 236 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:38,160 the 2024 relief audit was substantially more than previous years. So, uh, 237 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:43,600 finance did have a discussion on this and it looked like kind of 9,000 was the 238 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:48,240 average before. So, finance made the motion in the recommendation that 239 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:53,760 council pay of the amount that is over the 9,000. 240 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:58,000 So, that would be the 4,000 72528. 241 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:02,720 » So, what's the reason that it's gone up so much? 242 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:07,440 They went to a new auditor this year, so they had to do some they had to do a 243 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:13,120 bunch of d more digging uh on paperwork and stuff. Now they've they sent a new 244 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,200 I know Craig is logged into the portal. So now they can be able to send stuff 245 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,880 over earlier and and avoid some of these fees in the future. 246 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,440 » So they'll be documenting every month if I remember correctly. 247 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,840 » I believe that is what is happening. Do you know Tim? 248 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,360 I think that's what they said is that they're going to be being able to do it 249 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:34,400 monthly now, get things ready that when it comes to the end, they're not going 250 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,600 to charge us for all this extra stuff that you know this way if they're 251 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:42,400 missing something each month, they'll be able to jump on top of it quicker. 252 00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:45,840 » So, we haven't set up a meeting with parrot to talk to discuss it with them 253 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,960 yet. And we do I have reached out to another financial advisor to look at 254 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:56,640 their retirement stuff. They have not returned my call yet, but soon as that 255 00:20:53,120 --> 00:21:00,720 happens, then we'll meet with the fire relief group will meet with them and 256 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:04,919 then those guys can vote on that how they want to proceed on that as well. 257 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,080 So, we're looking for a motion to pay that 4725.28 258 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720 of portion of the audit. 259 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,760 I make a motion to approve to pay the $4,72528 260 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,360 of the 2024 relief audit. 261 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:36,400 » I will second it. A motion and a second is presented. Any 262 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:40,000 other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor indicate by 263 00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:47,679 saying I. I. >> I. Any nays? 264 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:51,240 hearing none. Okay. Posting some upcoming positions. 265 00:21:52,480 --> 00:22:00,320 So, we have two positions expiring at the end of November or December. Do did 266 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:03,440 we confirm it? November. Okay. So, 267 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:09,760 we need the council decision if we're going to post those positions and then 268 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:14,720 when we're going to do the private city or the council meeting with those 269 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:20,919 people, the applicants. And this is for the assistant, first 270 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,919 chief, and the secretary. 271 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:33,159 I guess I'll make a motion that we go ahead and post the positions. When do we 272 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:33,159 want to have this back by? 273 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:40,400 » How long do you want to give people time to fill out applications? 274 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:44,720 » You want it back by the next city council meeting so we can make an 275 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,960 appointment. Set another date. Is a payroll at the end of each month. Is 276 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:51,440 that the idea as well? >> No, it's just 277 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:58,000 » they do once a year. >> Once a year. 278 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:03,280 » Well, the 30th is a Sunday. Today is the 12th. So, and I don't want to do 279 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:06,280 anything the week of Thanksgiving. >> So, 280 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,679 I mean, I would personally I mean, if someone's interested in the positions, 281 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,520 they already know they're coming up. I'm going to be honest. Maybe maybe I don't 282 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,000 maybe I'm wrong. I would say to give them if you can get it up there by 283 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,799 tomorrow, I would say give them a week till the 21st. This way then 284 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,960 I don't want to do anything the week of. Do we want to do a special counsel the 285 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,520 week before that we're getting it done that first week of December that we're 286 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:32,559 not pushing it off to the second week of December? 287 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,440 » That feels like >> that'd be a little too fast. 288 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,320 » I I would be worried that there would be some people who weren't up at the fire 289 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:44,679 hall maybe wouldn't even be aware of what was going on. 290 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,679 » That would be my only concern. 291 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:54,000 So I mean it what'll happen effective November 30th 292 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,919 your position ends correct or whatever the first the first assistant position 293 00:23:55,919 --> 00:24:01,520 would technically end so we would be in an interim then without one or you would 294 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,280 just carry over until >> you can just extend us for a month don't 295 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:09,679 press yourself do it >> no no I I I agree 296 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:16,880 » he's going to screw up is Judy's >> if I if I leave my position I'm going to 297 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:20,000 get 112th Okay. >> Because it would it would just be 298 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,880 prorated. Got it. >> Yeah. Then I would think it would make 299 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:28,960 more sense to go into December a little bit to allow some time. 300 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:33,679 » If if we have the deadline by the 1st of December, is that soon enough or you 301 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:38,159 want to go later or >> I would recommend maybe going like like 302 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:40,480 the 5th would be Friday. That would give three full weeks. 303 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,919 » Okay. >> And that would give us the opportunity 304 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,159 of the council meeting. We'd be back again on the Wednesday and then we could 305 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,400 set a >> Okay, so December 5th will be the 306 00:24:47,679 --> 00:24:52,640 deadline. >> And then we could set a date for 307 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:55,520 » um >> set a date for a special council meeting 308 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:00,720 with the with interviews. >> That works for me. 309 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:03,279 » I'll have that in my motion. >> Then I'll second it if you're waiting 310 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,600 for one. >> Okay. So 311 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:11,039 » that's why I wanted to know when >> No, no. You want to repeat the motion or 312 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:14,240 » so that we post the the positions for the fire 313 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,840 » department, the first assistant and secretary, 314 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:26,640 » and the applications need to be in by December 5th. So, we can proceed and do 315 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:30,320 our due diligence. Does that cover it? That covers it. 316 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,480 » Okay. Okay. And a sec. We have a second. >> I'll second. 317 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,720 » All right. Motion, a second. Any further discussion 318 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,279 » hearing? I just have a quick question. So, if we push it out to the 5th, which 319 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,279 I understand where you guys are coming from from this, 320 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,039 um, we have a council meeting on the 10th. 321 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,000 » Mhm. >> Okay. We wouldn't be able to interview 322 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:51,679 these guys on the 10th. >> No, no, no. Then on the at the next 323 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:56,279 council meeting, you would set a special council meeting just to do those 324 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,279 interviews 325 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,440 » that I mean I'm just I'm looking at going into the holidays and everything, 326 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,960 » you know, because you're going in I mean if it's the 10th and we make it 327 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,159 » set that special council meeting for January 328 00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:08,799 » January. >> Yeah. I'm just saying because if you 329 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,000 guys are trying to get this done, you know, type situation, take that in 330 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,320 consideration that, >> you know, 331 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,000 » cuz we could do it the the following week or we could do it after Christmas, 332 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,559 whatever. We >> And it wouldn't have to be a Wednesday 333 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,279 night either. We could do it on a on a another night that's open, too. So, 334 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,200 » whatever. >> Tim, when's your next I just just a side 335 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:34,640 note, when's your next training? Is that on the 8th or the 15th? On the 336 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:38,480 » ETH. Okay. >> Till the ETH. Yeah. Is their next 337 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,720 training? >> That's actually our monthly meeting. 338 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:47,520 » Yeah, that's the everything's that night. Get the number out of the way all 339 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:51,840 in one night. >> So then maybe it would vote to keep it 340 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:54,799 open through. >> Just keep it open through the 9th. 341 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,799 » That's what I mean. That's what I'm That's the other thing I'm starting to 342 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,880 look at because I wanted to know when that was suggest 343 00:26:58,159 --> 00:27:04,400 » we don't or even do it on the 10th because we could have that information 344 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,120 talked about council, right? That would be 345 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,919 All we're doing at the council meeting is setting the special council meeting. 346 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,400 » So yeah, we'll make it amend it to your motion. 347 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,880 » Should we amend it to the 9th or you want to amend it to the 10th? 348 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:22,559 » I would amend it just to the nth that that gives Bobby time to get the 349 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:25,760 applications ready to for us to look at. >> Yeah, I would kind of agree with that. 350 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,320 » Or that we know how many we're going to have to interview 351 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:31,840 » on the 9th. >> Yeah. If that gives you enough time to 352 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,960 do what you have to do, >> I I'll I'll make my amendment to the 353 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,640 ninth. >> Okay. 354 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,320 » One last thing. Are we starting that effect of tomorrow or are we waiting to 355 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,120 be like Friday or Monday? I'm just trying to be, 356 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:50,080 » you know, because >> I think time. So, 357 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:55,120 » yeah, start it tomorrow right away. >> All right. I just want to make sure. 358 00:27:53,120 --> 00:28:00,399 » Okay. So, we have a motion, a second to start it immediately to the 9th. Uh any 359 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,960 further discussion hearing? None. All in favor indicate by 360 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,240 saying I. >> I. 361 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:13,840 » I. Any names? Okay. All right. Uh Barry. 362 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:19,120 » Hey. Uh we're looking for the approval to purchase a new plow truck to update 363 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:23,440 our single axle to a new single axle. On your council packet, it's page 58 364 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:29,799 through 67. Um, the price for the new truck is 365 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,799 $289,281. 366 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,120 It was brought to my attention that they shouldn't be charging the tariff of the 367 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:39,640 $1,500, which should bring it down to $287,781. 368 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:53,120 And this has been in the budget that you've been trying to get this fair this 369 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:56,000 end on the by the end of the year we'll cover it and we don't have to pay for 370 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,559 the truck until it actually gets here. >> Okay. 371 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,600 » And is that going to be kind of like the fire truck where it's going to take a 372 00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:05,760 few years to probably going to be at least a full year if not two. 373 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,240 » That's kind of where their window is. >> Yeah. 374 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,960 » It's just crazy to me that we're still in that kind of lead time for stuff like 375 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:15,360 that. Yeah, >> I feel sorry for guys that buy a new 376 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:20,320 truck and get in a wreck and get a total out. You ain't getting another new one. 377 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,960 » Well, I mean, I I did have a a quote from International for basically the 378 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:28,080 same truck and they're telling me January for the truck. But if you can't 379 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:31,919 get utility body or the rest of it until November, it really makes no It really 380 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,600 doesn't matter who which truck you buy. >> Yeah. Cuz 381 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,640 » cuz all we can do is hang on to the money then, right? 382 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Because the to because even if 383 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,360 they build the truck and get it shipped at the freight liner, we still don't pay 384 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:45,600 for the truck until the body gets put on and then shipped to us. 385 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,320 » Oh, really? Oh, that's okay. >> So, the plow trucks that we have now. 386 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,120 » Mhm. >> Um were they were both of Because we're 387 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,960 essentially replacing both at once, right? Because we just have a new plow 388 00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:57,679 truck >> two two years ago. 389 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,080 » Two years ago. And then this one would probably come online in another two 390 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,520 years. >> Were the other Were the other two that 391 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:10,240 far? I mean, my my worry is that we're going to be replacing two again down the 392 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,600 road at the same time. >> So, I mean, obviously, we need it. We 393 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:16,559 need to approve it. I'm just I'm looking at trying, you know, 394 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:20,480 » hopefully going to we can put enough aides in our savings so that way, you 395 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:24,799 know, we can plan for that or we can stagger it. You know, we might do like a 396 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:28,960 fiveyear before the one's over if we did like a 15 year versus a 20 year. That 397 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,760 way, you do stagger them out a little bit. Yeah. How how old are they? or is 398 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,919 it? >> Uh, so the one we're replacing is from 399 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,840 2003. So that' be is that 23 years or 22 years? 400 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,480 » Yeah. And the other one, how old is that one replacement? 401 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,799 » The brand new truck was last year. And then there's a another one that's a 2004 402 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,080 Sterling, but we're keeping that one until it pretty much falls over. 403 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:52,399 » Okay. So that'll be the next one is the 2004 to replace. 404 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,000 » Yeah. >> But the one you replaced last year, that 405 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:57,039 replaced the truck that was how old? Burial. 406 00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:04,960 » Burial. >> That one replaced a 2006 Sterling. 407 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:10,559 » Okay. So again about 19 years old, >> but the the Sterling, the orange one 408 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,760 that we have now, the its replacement would be the one the freight line more 409 00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:18,320 than likely that we currently have, right? The new one. We just rotate them 410 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:23,200 in. We wouldn't be buying another third brand new one. 411 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:27,279 » No. So So the new new freight liner we bought two years ago, that'll probably 412 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:32,399 do a 15 to 20 year lifespan. So that's way down the road for budgeting. This 413 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:38,480 one's replacing a 2003 single axle that goes around in town here. Um, and then 414 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:43,360 our other Sterling Tandem that we have. That's u our backup truck and that's 415 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,279 what we use for we have some few attachments to it for doing shouldering 416 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,840 and stuff. We plan on just keeping that truck for many years hopefully and then 417 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,760 maybe in the future replacing it if we budget for it later. So, I wouldn't be 418 00:31:54,399 --> 00:32:02,799 looking at replacing that one for probably 5 to 10 years yet. So, because 419 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:07,240 it's not a daily use thing. Okay. 420 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,240 » Okay. 421 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:15,519 So, we need a motion. >> I Okay, go ahead. I'm trying to think 422 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:19,919 here. >> You're going to work on that deduction, 423 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,159 that $1,500 tariff deduction on there, right Barry? 424 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:31,120 » So, what's the amount again, Barry? Was 287. 287,781 425 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,279 houses >> without that without that terra being on 426 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,880 there. >> Yeah. Minus 1,500 427 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:45,080 from the original. >> I will make a motion to push purchase 428 00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:45,080 the plow truck for the $2,87,781. 429 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,840 Um 430 00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,720 second. >> Okay. Motion and a second and any other 431 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,519 discussion on this hearing? None. All in favor indicate by 432 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,200 saying I. >> I. 433 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,399 » I. Any nays? Okay. Very water. We're going to talk 434 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:17,120 water meters now, huh? >> Yep. 435 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:22,320 Okay. So, on the council packet page 68, uh we're looking at we found oversized 436 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:26,720 meters throughout the town. Um the Zach numbers on the left are actually off. We 437 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:34,799 have seven 1-in meters. We're looking at 9 in and 12, which means we need 16 or 438 00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:39,919 sorry, 18 uh gaskets. Uh we only need one more stainless steel 2-in meter. Uh 439 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:44,880 which also needs two gaskets for that. And then we should have the 17 end 440 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:49,120 points already with the meters that we already plotted for or accounted for for 441 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:54,080 the rest of the town. So, we shouldn't have to get that pizza. 442 00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:57,440 » We shouldn't shouldn't need that $3,7 or $77. 443 00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:02,919 » So, how much more did you say this bill was? 444 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,919 » So, it'll be a grand total of $9,930. 445 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:12,960 » Make a motion to approve. >> I'll second that. Motion a second. Any 446 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:16,159 other discussion on this >> hearing? None. All in favor indicate by 447 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:21,919 saying I. I. >> I. Any naysay? 448 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,320 Okay. And then the water meter for well number three. 449 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:38,800 » So in the council packet on uh page number 69 uh we have a 6-in water meter 450 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:44,079 uh mag meter for our wellhouse. Um on number three right now our old water 451 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:51,119 meter was just tested and we're at 9% out of a skew or a skew readings. Um 452 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:56,560 we're looking at trying to get drop that down to less than 5%. So that way it 453 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,320 helps with our utility billing and water loss at the end of the year that we have 454 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:04,839 to record for the Minnesota Department of Health for requirements. 455 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,839 Um, the bill is for that meter would be $4,76. 456 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,599 » Make a motion to approve. >> I'll second that. 457 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,880 » Have a motion and a second. I just have one question, Barry. We did a drop in up 458 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,320 at Lo, right? Then we just buy the core or just the meter. 459 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,040 » We can't do that with this meter. Is that correct? 460 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:33,760 » This This one we can't the the housing that's in there is not uh compatible. We 461 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:38,960 already looked into that one. >> Perfect. That's We have a motion, a 462 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,160 second. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor indicate by 463 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,000 saying I. >> I. 464 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:53,920 » I. Any nays? Hearing none. We'll move on. 465 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:56,240 Okay. Resolution 2025-34. Thank you, Barry. 466 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:02,240 » Yep. Make a motion to approve 467 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,520 to roll this over to the tax roles. >> Okay, 468 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:11,599 » I will second that. Motion, a second on the resolution. Um, 469 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,760 any other discussion? Hearing none. 470 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,680 All in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. 471 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:24,720 » I. Any nays? None. 472 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:29,280 Okay. approval of the harble invoice for the compound. That's a the grinding 473 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:36,320 brush grinding. >> I make a motion that we pay $2,100 474 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:42,160 towards this um herbo um invoice and compost site. 475 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:46,240 » Okay. And I'll second that. Have a motion and second. Any further 476 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,760 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor indicate by 477 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:54,560 saying I. I. >> I. Any nays? 478 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,960 » Let the record show that I abstain. >> Thank you, Brad. 479 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,119 » Okay. >> Thank you guys. 480 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:10,520 » The uh Yeah. Go off, Brad. Thank you for the the support there as well. Okay. The 481 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,520 siren service agreement. 482 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,480 What do we want to do here? Do we want to 483 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:24,720 So, so we had an incident for the first time. one of our sirens uh when we had a 484 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:30,640 battery explosion. We have not had a preventive maintenance program on these 485 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:38,640 sirens in the past. So, what is before you is a contract uh proposal from DC 486 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:44,160 DSC Communications, otherwise known as Grind Electronics, for an annual fee of 487 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:49,599 2278 uh without the batteries and then an 488 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:54,720 annual 35.48 with the batteries. Each siren except 489 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:59,839 for the downtown siren has four four batteries and they're looking at a 4year 490 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,839 replacement time. 491 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,200 » There's a fine line. I will just say that. 492 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:21,440 » Yeah, I'm st I Half of me is going, "Yeah, let's do it." because then we 493 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:26,960 know everything within that siren is being looked at. But like we talked 494 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:31,920 through the workshop is are we going to be nickel and dime latered. 495 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,960 So that's where I'm kind of at with it where you know I think it's a great idea 496 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:40,720 because they are older you know that we know that they're getting maintained 497 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:44,640 correctly that we're not waiting for why isn't one working and then we could have 498 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:49,839 ended up having a huge bill to you know repair it. So, I don't know. I'm on a 499 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:54,160 fine line with this one. I I I think we should do it with some slimulations that 500 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:57,520 they just can't everything has to be approved. Anything over and above the 501 00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:00,960 inspection, I feel we should have to be approved by the council. Not even 502 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,119 putting a dollar amount on it. That will go up to this dollar amount. It just has 503 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,160 to be approved. >> So, whose budget would this fall under? 504 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,079 Emergency management budget. Your budget. Okay. 505 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:16,160 » Do we have money there? >> I believe so. 506 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,560 » Okay. Bill, what do you what do you think? I 507 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,920 mean, you're you're out there every every month. You I want I'm asking your 508 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:27,359 opinion as well. >> I agree, Julie. It it's 509 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:33,920 it's it's a fine line and you can come in and have this done and a week later 510 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:39,119 it doesn't work. I mean, this is though a preventive measure. 511 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,240 Um I mean, that's same with your car. I 512 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:47,040 mean, you can take it in for oil changes and a week later it's not running. It 513 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,240 won't start. You don't know why. I mean, >> well, I you know, I replace my battery 514 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:54,640 in my car when it doesn't work. >> Yeah. You know, 515 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,839 » so but this So, we have dead batteries out there now. So, if we sign this 516 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,160 agreement, will they change them under this new agreement or is or do we need 517 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:07,160 another quote for that portion of it though? 518 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,160 » I would have to ask that question. 519 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:17,040 So if you look on 73, it says managed services under description sirens with 520 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:23,680 battery coverage. Um, so we could definitely reach out to 521 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:28,400 them and ask for, you know, without and and have another quote come back to you 522 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:32,560 guys. >> If you want to table this for 523 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,000 » Yeah, that's kind of what I was leading is maybe table it to get a little more 524 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:40,160 information. Would it I mean would it be possible do you think to maybe reach out 525 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:44,720 to Cole Spring Richmond see what they're do with their sirens to see if they go 526 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:50,000 through a service like this or if they just you know if it's not broke don't 527 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,839 fix it. I mean, my I I get like what Julie was saying and what Mark was 528 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,720 saying earlier that, you know, we don't want an open-ended checkbook, but yet at 529 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,280 the same time, if they come back and they say, "Well, you know, you're you're 530 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:05,839 giggama jig to the whatchamacallit needs to be fixed." How are we going to know 531 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,520 that it's not and not approve it anyway? So, 532 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,720 I mean, I I still feel like it could be a nickel and dime situation even if we 533 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:17,680 are approving it every month because they can come up with whatever they want 534 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:21,440 for fixes that need to be done and and I don't know that we would be able to call 535 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,160 them out on it and say, "No, that doesn't need to be fixed for 536 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,720 » I guess we'd have to have a lot of it in writing to explain what is definitely 537 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,640 wrong." >> Yeah. 538 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:34,079 » I mean, that's the only way of getting around that. that okay, you know, I 539 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,520 would think between the five of us and engineer and, you know, other people, we 540 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,760 should be able to figure out are they, you know, pulling our leg or are they 541 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:46,079 and it's a legit company. I hope they're not screwing right 542 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,200 » people over, you know. Yeah. I I don't know. I like I said, I 543 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,440 keep I keep looking at it thinking, "Yeah, let's do it." And then the other 544 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:55,599 end of me saying, "No, don't do it. Don't waste the money." But when you 545 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:59,920 look at how much batteries could cost us if they came out to replace them or we 546 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,920 do it ourselves, you're now taking, you know, one of our maintenance guy to now 547 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:08,560 go out. Maybe it is only a half hour job, but it's the idea like you said, 548 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,240 you don't know all the mechanicals of of it. How does it work? That's the other 549 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,359 part I kind of look at is do we want to put our maintenance people in that 550 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,119 situation and then it doesn't work after. Now we have to we paid them an 551 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:24,079 hour to do the work and now we have to call someone in to fix it. So, I mean, 552 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:29,119 so I'm kind of on that, you know, the board that way, too. 553 00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:32,560 » No, that's it's all valid points. >> Did they Did they say how many other 554 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,960 cities they do this for? >> I didn't ask. 555 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:39,760 » Okay. >> So, can we just can we table it? Maybe 556 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:44,480 ask other communities what they're doing maybe as a second opinion. How does that 557 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,000 » I think that's a great fair statement. >> Or if Yeah. or if they do any other 558 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,480 cities around us, then we can ask. >> Then we can talk to those cities and ask 559 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:55,040 them what they're doing >> because really the siren 560 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,200 really doesn't have to be operable till spring now. Correct. But we need to get 561 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,319 the batteries in there at some point. >> Well, they're all working now. 562 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480 » Oh, okay. >> As far as I know. 563 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,520 » Okay. >> Do is there any other company that does 564 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:12,560 this type of thing or is this the one that we just have trusted over the 565 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:18,400 years? Well, uh, this this company's pretty reputable and, uh, they do all 566 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:23,359 the EMS in the central Minnesota. >> Okay. 567 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:26,560 Yeah, I agree. Let's I think maybe table getting some more information might be 568 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:30,640 helpful that we can make them more and like you said, they're pretty well. 569 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:33,760 They're all working now. It's spring. >> Yeah. And spring is going to be the time 570 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,760 we're going to definitely have to have it. 571 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:44,480 » Okay. Let's let's table this until we get some more information. So, do we 572 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,319 need to make a motion for that as well? Okay. Um 573 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:55,119 » I'll make the motion to table it till we get a little more clarification. 574 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,119 » Do you want But we didn't put Do we need to put a timeline? 575 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,000 » Yeah. Why don't we just say to have it come back to the next council meeting? 576 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,760 » Okay. Okay. >> You want to change? 577 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,800 » Thank you. Yep. So, I'll make the motion then to table this till next council 578 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,480 meeting. Would it would it be beneficial to have a spokesperson come so we could 579 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,560 ask these questions? >> I can definitely ask if someone would be 580 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,359 willing. >> That wouldn't hurt, Brian. That's a 581 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:20,880 great idea >> because the only thing is I'm reading in 582 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:26,960 here on the last page of this. Not quite. 76 583 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:32,640 where it's saying the the optional battery replacement 584 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:38,800 replaces insufficient inoperable siren backup batteries parts and labor. 585 00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:45,359 Then if you it says to look in footnotes one and two. Troubleshooting of repairs 586 00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:50,800 excluding excludes repairs to siren motors 587 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:55,920 and speaker assemblies. their their spelling here is they must not 588 00:44:53,119 --> 00:45:01,040 have spell checked. Um or electrical work requiring electrician or aerial 589 00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:05,920 lift. Diagnostic and troubleshooting to discover and isolate issue to the siren 590 00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:11,119 motors or electrical work requiring electrician will be covered within the 591 00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:16,319 scope of this agreement. Note two, rental of aerial lifts is not 592 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:21,359 included in this agreement. If an aerial lift is needed for troubleshooting or 593 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:27,359 battery replacement, DSC may invoice customer after approval 594 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:31,200 from customer for such charges. >> So they're saying there's batteries at 595 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,440 the bottom and at the top cuz why would you need a lift if the batteries are all 596 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,800 the bottom? >> I don't know. You need a lift to get up 597 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:40,200 to the siren if you didn't work on the siren yourself. 598 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,800 [Music] And I don't know how far off the ground 599 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,839 the batteries are. They're not on the ground. 600 00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:52,839 » No, you can reach. 601 00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:59,599 » So, I don't know. I just got some questions. So, 602 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,920 » yeah, I think just tableabling it and if we can get a spokesperson 603 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:07,599 » here, find out what the other cities are doing around us or who they do service 604 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:12,079 that we can call them and ask them some questions. Um, I think it's better for 605 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,359 us all the way around. >> Yeah, we will do that. 606 00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:18,960 » Thank you, Bill. >> Thank you. 607 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:22,000 » So, there's a second to Jason's motion. >> I'll second that. 608 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,839 » Julie second. Okay. Any further discussion? 609 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:32,079 Hearing none. All in favor indicate by saying I 610 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:39,200 » I any nays? Hearing none. Thank you, Bill, for that. 611 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:46,319 um on the number 15 the other stuff. So I'm going to just I'm making a request 612 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:54,560 per John Lutkins what he talked about. I have I continue to get calls about this 613 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:58,880 stuff monthly. Um I I can't answer any questions because I don't have any 614 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:03,680 answers. Um I've reached out to the state auditor's office, department of 615 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,400 admin league. Everybody's ask telling me that I need to go to our legal council 616 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:11,280 and ask some of those questions. So, I do have a a small list of questions that 617 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,640 might turn into something else, but I'm asking the council to give me approval 618 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:19,800 to ask ask reach out to the city attorney and ask those questions and I 619 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:19,800 can report back. 620 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:26,720 » Why is it now that the mayor can't go to our attorney on its own? 621 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,280 » It's part of the policy. It's our policy, right? It's 622 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,839 » been the policy for years. >> Yeah. And why did it get was was there a 623 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:38,079 reason it got switched years ago? Can we change it back? 624 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:44,960 » I think the biggest reason is so that and not that I mean it it happened a 625 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:51,040 little bit. Um so the idea is so we don't get a a a rogue council member or 626 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,880 a mayor just constantly calling the attorney direct because every time you 627 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:59,520 call them it's chuch-ing chuching chuch-ing, right? So if there's anything 628 00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:02,880 that needs to go through the attorney, it usually goes through the 629 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,200 administrator and the administrator has the authority to say yes or no. So 630 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:11,760 that's that's what that was about. That's how it came to be 631 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,599 and that's why it was put into place. >> Yeah. 632 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:21,359 » So and it's it's not an interrogation thing. It's more just asked some simple 633 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:26,160 questions why why we did why certain things happened the way they did. that 634 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:30,480 is not it's pretty benign. It just people are asking some questions and 635 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:37,040 want some answers. I'm asking for permission to do it. Um 636 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:41,200 I I'm happy to if I spend an hour with the attorney, I'm happy to pay the bill 637 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:48,559 as well. Um I do not have a problem with that, but I think we owe our citizens 638 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:54,240 some answers. Um, so I'm looking for a motion to approve it 639 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:59,280 or a motion to approve change our policy. Our policy is set. I don't think 640 00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:03,319 we need to change that either, but I'm looking for a motion to approve. 641 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:14,040 I'll make a motion to give the mayor for this time only to contact the attorney 642 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,000 to be able to answer questions for the citizens. 643 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:28,079 » Yeah, I'll second the motion. Uh, as far as the policy goes, I would we want to 644 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:32,079 amend the policy to read something along the lines of allowing it with council 645 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:35,359 approval? I mean, I guess guess that's what we just did. the way the council or 646 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,480 that's the way the policy >> that's what policy does we allowed to 647 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:44,960 approve we're allowed to approve the council thank 648 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:47,599 » or Bobby can authorize that too >> we're already we're already going down 649 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,920 this road we already got a motion in a second so 650 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,040 » but I I don't I mean I don't think you need to pay that I mean that's should be 651 00:49:56,319 --> 00:50:02,240 it >> I mean I I get where Brian's saying you 652 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:06,079 don't need to tap just we don't need road. I I get all that and I want I want 653 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:11,559 to abide by those rules. >> And this is obviously not that because I 654 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,559 would agree 655 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:17,040 » there questions being asked that that need answers and 656 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:21,839 » y so we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? 657 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:25,680 Okay. All in favor indicate by saying I. >> I. 658 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:30,079 » Any nays? I have abstained from the vote. 659 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:34,400 Okay. Thank you. All right. 660 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,920 adjourn. >> I make a motion to adjurnn. 661 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:42,920 » Motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. All in favor in place by saying I. 662 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,920 » I.