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All right, I'd like to call to order the Rockville Planning Commission regular meeting for August 11, 2026. Let's do a call to yes. Roll call. That's what I meant. Thank you. Roll call. Lady, I are here. Angie here. Linda here. Tim here. Jane here.

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Skylar here. Thank you very much. Would you all join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, please?

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I begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you very much, please be seated.

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All right, at this time, is there anybody who has signed up for public comment?

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No.

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Is there any written public comment?

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No.

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Oh, wow, that's easy.

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All right, then we'll move right on to item number four, discussion, review, and possible approval of a building permit for Sophia Opanis at 115 East Main Street, Sophia.

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If you would ask if you had any conflict of interest.

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Oh no.

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Thank you, Jane.

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Is there any conflict of interest with this issue or anything on the agenda tonight?

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I see all no.

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Thank you very much.

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All right.

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Thank you, Sophia, for being here.

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And thank you for submitting everything to us.

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Again, it was nice just as a report to the Planning Commission.

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Skyler Davis and I went to Sophia's house last month and discussed with her the options

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to bring her into compliance with our land use code. She has elected to remodel and connect

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building and move building and she's put everything before us. I went through it with

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this remodel and I found two things that I had question on and so I'll just start with

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those and then we'll go from there. Is that okay Sophie or did you want to say anything

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before I move forward. Okay. First, I think this is the longest legal description we've

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ever gotten from anybody in a building permit. So thank you very much. It was eight pages

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long, so it was awesome. What two things were missing, I did not see an owner signature

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of the fire suppression information from Rockville, Utah. And I did not see a written approval of

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building plans from the Hurricane Valley Fire Marshal. Now.

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There were no building plans to submit because it's a proposal.

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And that's what I was going to just about to bring up.

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So what's our goal is here is, and I agree with Sophia, she didn't want to move

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into an extraordinary amount of cost in the engineering and getting everything ready

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if the town, if it wasn't going to fit the land use code.

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So she has submitted everything with a great description.

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I loved her description of exactly what was going to move forward and based on what we

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discuss here and how we move forward, then she can then properly submit some other documentation

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that we might need.

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Any questions?

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And that will come into the building plans.

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So as of right now, the two things that I found that I didn't understand and I didn't see

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on the plans or on these plans is the additional concrete pad you'll need when you move your

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building, the nine feet. That wasn't drawn in, so you need to make sure that that is in,

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and that it falls into code for a building, just to make sure of that.

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As a foundation, not a pad?

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Yeah, well, our land use code defines it for the building to support the building.

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or if it's a manufactured home, it can be a pad, but it'll be up to Zach the

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inspector to tell us exactly what's required for that. That's one thing I did

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notice on your drawings. Other than that, I found everything else that I needed

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to find and felt that it's exactly what we discussed in the different options.

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By moving it, brings it into code with our setback and by adding the wall and the

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foundation to the wall that's attached to the main building that falls under our land use code as well.

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So, um, any questions?

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I'm, I'm just, I don't, I'm sorry, you, I don't even know what, where I miss.

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I've been under some medical distress in the last couple of weeks, so I've been a little bit out of it.

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So you're moving the entire cabin towards the house to the east, to the east, to bring it away from the side setback.

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Oh, the side setback, so that brings it into the setback there.

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Okay, and then connecting the house by a wall.

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Yeah, by a wall with the foundation underneath the wall.

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Okay.

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All right.

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This is the first time I've heard of that.

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I'll just, I'll just go.

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Is that okay?

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Of course.

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Angie, do you have any questions?

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We do, but I don't, it's not about what she put in.

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I just want to clarify.

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We are, so we are approving the wall and the connection.

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Is that correct?

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Yeah.

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Or the wall, the connection and the actual site.

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So is there the building, so there are contingencies upon that, and then, I guess that's my point, I don't know exactly.

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You're looking for those two things?

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Well, I'm looking for, so I feel like that what this building permit is saying is for

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the wall, for the connection so that it be considered part of the main building.

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But then we also are going to have, so you've approved together, or does somebody have to approve the building as it is, as it's built?

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Yes, so that will be in the engineering plans by the inspector.

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We're just basically, at this time, approving the fact that this can move forward in that it follows the land use code, it can move forward, and then we can get light.

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Okay, then the plan for the building and then the plan for like the relocation of the building.

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And then the IADU is all later, is that right?

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That's what I need to clarify.

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Yes, because the cabinet, when she moves, it has to be up to code everything.

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We're just approving, if she moves forward, or if she's able to.

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We're just saying that the plan that she's putting forward, this is what I want to do.

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Before I put forth a whole bunch of money, will this work?

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Does that make sense?

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Right.

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Linda, do you have any questions?

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Not really.

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You mentioned a couple of small things.

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And I know we get asked if there's an inspection down the road or in a little bit.

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But it looks good to me.

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Jane.

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It does not look good to me because, sorry.

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So, would you like to go sit down?

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All right.

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Jane.

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Because we ask for two things.

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Yep.

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Our definition asks for two things.

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a building connected by any of the two, a common wall, a continuous wall, a continuous

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foundation, or a continuous roof line. And it specifically says walls and other things

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open on at least two sides shall not constitute an attached building. I feel that the writers

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of this definition for attached building that she's trying hard to work through would

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would have said a wall with a footing is enough, but they said a wall and a roof line or

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a wall and a foundation, not the footing on a wall. Every wall has some sort of footing

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or otherwise it would be a fence, right? So every block wall has some sort of footing

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And to call the footing, the foundation, as our second aspect of the two of the following for building attached,

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I think is remiss in our interpretation of this.

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Can we read that so we can hear that?

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Because I'd like to just hear it word for word.

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Yeah, it's the definition in chapter two for building attached.

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Building attached, a building connecting any two of the following,

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A common wall, a continuous wall, a continuous foundation, or a continuous roof line.

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Walls or fences, patios, porches, terraces, or other roofed accessory uses open on at least two sides.

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She'll not constitute an attached building.

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No attached building shall be further than 30 feet from the main structure and

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she'll not be used as an additional residence.

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So my question to Tim when we were out there is building that wall, going to make it a common wall between the two buildings.

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Are you agreeing to that wall?

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Yes.

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So if tying in the footing to the foundation of the house and tying the footing into the foundation of the new building, that should suffice by the same definition as the wall.

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No, it, that's a footing for a law and not a continuous foundation.

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They would have said a law with a continuous footing is okay, but they didn't say that.

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In fact, they said, laws which this will be, a law that's open on at least two sides,

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will not constitute an attached building.

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It's quite clear there.

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It's, but it's saying at least two sides.

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Right. So one, two. That's at least two. She's going to have a wall between the little

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house and the big house, right? That's her plan. So that's just one wall. And I think

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that I, since every wall has a footing,

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they didn't mean that to mean a wall, the foundation

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of the wall, the footing of the wall would constitute a continuous foundation. So I think

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with a roof, a continuous roof line, this would work.

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So, what would be a foundation?

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All right. So, I went through the complete land use code.

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It's talking about how a specific definition for foundation.

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Now, what you're calling a footing, it does not say it has to be 10 feet wide.

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It does not say has to be 18 feet deep.

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It doesn't have to say anything about foundation.

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All it says is foundation, which is a base of a building in the land use,

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and not in the land use code, in the international.

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Absolutely, I agree with you.

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However, a foundation is called throughout her report,

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footing for the wall, and not a foundation,

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and not a continuous foundation.

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And it's very clear about the wall,

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I mean, wall or walls or fences, even if we wanted to accept

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that as a foundation.

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What's a foundation for the wall?

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It, even if we accept that foundation for the wall as her second, as her second point of the two of the four,

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walls or fences open on at least two sides shall not constitute an attached building.

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I think she needs a roof.

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Yeah, but it says shall not constitute open at least on two sides.

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Right. If it's open on at least two sides.

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that it does not it's not an attached building. So then this that's talk about open on at least two sides a wall open on two sides

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Does not and it's attached a building

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So where's the open part? Are we talking about like I'm yeah, that's a part I'm confused. So the wall is here wall wall

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It's gonna have free that it doesn't have it's not open on two sides. Yeah, that's what I'm not understanding

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It's a big U. Yes.

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I read this and interpret this to me.

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It's like I need a drive.

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A wall is a wall.

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This wall is not open on two sides.

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Because there's a roof.

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There's a floor.

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There's other walls around it.

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This wall is not open.

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But the wall between these houses,

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between our parking lot and the neighbor's house,

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That fence that's open on both sides

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Again, but if you look at the drawing the wall that she's going to build if this was it as a wall there and

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A wall there that's connecting it correct so that makes it

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Three sides. It's not open on two sides and it will have a foundation game

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They're doing again. This is where the land use code

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I mean I you you've said it a couple times in there that this is not what they meant

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This is not what I'm seeing but it's not clearly defined

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And that's why we're here, otherwise we need to be here.

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That's exactly right.

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Okay, go ahead.

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I was just going to say, the guy's going to come to pour more cement for where you're

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building.

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He's going to get moved.

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He's bringing cement.

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When he brings this cement, can you not add cement then that becomes a pathway next to the

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wall?

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I mean, nowhere does it say we have to have a roof and one other thing.

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It says there's three things. We need two out of three. So

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Would a path would a pathway be enough of a foundation connection for you?

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Well, we're saying anyways Jane done that already. All right, Emma. We have a

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little bit among us and let's see what I mean. Okay. I mean a footing is I mean a spot footing is a foundation for something or

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whether well that doesn't matter. It's still considered a foundation. It's a spot footing

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For a wall, but if you were put that spot footing in a square and

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For a pad in between that then you call it a house foundation

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I mean, but this is still a foundation for a wall. Are we a lot to move forward from this?

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We'll decide that talking to you. So I mean putting in foundation or you know

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Like for example on my garage. Yeah, we built the foundation is the footing that's under the walls

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The pattern between is nothing, same thing for under the house, it's all the wall foundation, which are the footage.

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I understand that.

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You guys, I get what a foundation for a building wall is.

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You get what a foundation for a center block fence is, right?

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Alright?

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What's up?

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Also called a footing, but it's not only called a footing. So what would be considered? What are you thinking that would be considered a foundation? But like a, like what?

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But international code standards to make a little continuous foundation requires the drilling into and connecting to another foundation to one. So it's all stable and moving together. That's what it is. So, okay. Again, this is, this is not what's in my plan.

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Not a smart decision for us to make, not just for her house, but for houses in the future.

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I'm going to say that.

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I would...

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Yeah, I know why you want to prove it.

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Why?

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Because you want to do this in phone house.

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What are you talking about?

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I was actually agreeing with you.

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If you just jerrymandered things to fit one person's thing, I was agreeing with you.

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I was teasing you.

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No.

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No teasing.

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You sit here and you're here to bash her and tell her sit down when she gives you any any sort of resistance.

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Guys, guys, time out.

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She was busy laughing.

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Guys, we're going to take you.

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We're going to take him.

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That's...

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Okay, well you're...

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I'm going to pull her things.

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No, I apologize.

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Yeah, well, it's easy to apologize.

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Tyler?

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Jane, stop.

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Alright, so we've discussed those main things.

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The other thing that's really important to understand and I want Sophia to understand

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And also is that both buildings need to be up to code, correct?

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You understand that?

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And that will be in a way.

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We are already up to code.

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Okay, but they need to be inspected and approved by that.

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Oh, can I ask you a question about that?

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Yes.

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So the inspector has to go through the other building also?

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Or are you talking about both buildings, the wall and the-

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Well, they share power.

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So if whether it's a sub panel on the other side, he has to-

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Okay.

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Sure, it goes from one to the other.

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Okay.

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Got it.

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To current code, right?

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To current code.

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exactly. So there's that. So as we move forward before I ask for any more

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questions or comments, the other part of this is we are still lacking engineering

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plans, more specifics with. Now I went through the international code and the

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description that she put in her written description fits exactly the word

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incoming from the international code for the foundation for that wall. Does that make sense?

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It's wide enough, it's tall enough, it's weighty enough, the dowel drills

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through it, the glue that was added, all of that is correct.

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So that is sufficeing, I think, but I have to ask Zach and see what he needs.

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That did look at these plans, but he just said that there were so many questions he had.

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Okay, and I'm happy to sit down with him and we'll get together to say, okay, what do

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we need to do to make sure that those plans are correct so that he can use them to

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approve you. Does that make sense to pass off your stuff? Okay?

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Do you have any questions,

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Laney? I mean, I'm just super confused about the whole thing.

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The wall, I mean, it has

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to be, it's going to be concrete in between both buildings, correct? Yeah. And a wall.

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Yes. And that's the two of the four things that need to be done, right? Okay. Okay. Okay.

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All right, that's all I have.

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Angie?

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I'm good right now.

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All right.

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That's what it looks like for you.

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All right.

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I don't have any other comments at this time.

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Nothing further.

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All right.

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Then I will make a motion here.

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Let me change my screen.

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What about the plans for the foundation for the other building?

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Yes.

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That has to be.

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I did not see a drawing on there for the actual concrete part.

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So will that be conditioned?

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You're correct.

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Yes, I'm putting it in the motion.

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So I'm adding that as a complete engineering

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specific that's required by the town inspector.

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Do you want me to specifically mention

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that concrete pad as well?

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Absolutely.

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She moves it.

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I'm not sure, but the wall.

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I think it's right now it's over here.

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She's moving it that way and connecting it in this way.

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Thank you.

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I know I made a movement, but I just

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I just want to see if it matched.

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A lot to make happen.

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And do we go over deadlines now or after?

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Um, I'll say that's very good.

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Thank you very much.

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So, um, you put in a deadline, you put in a date, I noticed the August 25th.

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Correct.

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I also have two others that I've contacted.

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So I contacted the Rouge and they told me that they would be able to come out later this

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month.

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Okay.

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Then I contacted.

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I also told Brad Quinn our neighbor and he said he wanted to do it so he might be able

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just to move it instead of having her to come out and then there was a third person that

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I found who does mobile home moving moving and he said when he's like on a semi truck so

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he said when he was like when he's in this area that he would let me know but anyways I don't

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have any like real set dates on that.

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Do you have a date for the cement work the foundation for the for the small house now?

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I had to see if this plan was even feasible before moving forward with anything

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I want to make sure I word this correctly as this is

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contingent on a completed

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Then is the completed going to come number one is completed going to come back to you to review

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number two if a building permit is approved they only have six months to

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pull the permit at what point are you going to count the six months to actually

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pull a permit because this is only a partial when she turns in the rest the

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rest and I come back to you yeah I'd like to put a deadline on when it has to be

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submitted if we move forward oh we should do that for everything yeah so she's

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voluntarily put the 25th of August, but I think that's a little rushed in my

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opinion. Yeah, but is that just for the plan to come back?

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It's just for engineering. It's just for engineering.

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And I also won't be here. That's why I want to talk about deadlines.

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Okay. So that's what let's discuss that. What do you think is fair to say we need to

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have this done? Because I mean this is an issue. It's a rock feel. It's hard to get

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that people could come up here and do anything.

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So, I mean, I'll say a couple months.

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Okay.

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And-

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So, is that for-

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Yeah, is that specifically time-

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What we're saying is-

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The movement of the building-

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I want to put a deadline that says, okay,

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we are saying however we vote that she can move forward

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or not, we'll do that on that.

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But they should-

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Hey, contingent on all the engineering-

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For not all these things, when does she have to start?

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When is- when do I need to have everything?

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So that we can say this is-

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So we're talking about a relocation plan from a company.

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We're talking about the building permit, the inspection, the fire, all that completed.

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We're also talking, we're not talking about the IADU or we are.

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Not at all.

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Not.

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I have to view the fire, right?

354
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No.

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No, I don't do it.

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The fire has to review your plans and say it's okay.

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Okay.

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But that's not something I have to add to my timeline.

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That would be in the timeline, yes.

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So what would have, here's like the steps.

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If it's approved, you would get all your engineering done, right?

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The engineering, the full plan saying, this is how it's going to be done.

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That needs to be submitted to the fire marshal.

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And he usually gets it back within a week.

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So.

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And the building.

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So we're discussing how much time you guys are willing to give me for the engineering

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plans to get those back to us so that we can so you can move forward but because I want

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I don't want this because there is a legal issue with fines etc. We're putting very specific

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dates on this to make this move forward.

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Well, I am like I said out of town so the more time you guys could give me like maybe December

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would be ideal.

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When are you out of town for when are you out of town for I'm going to be gone until October

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Can she have someone else present?

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I

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It's she can it can be just submitted back to us and given to keep in mind

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This is something that should have been with these plans to begin with

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21 days ago and it was not in there yet

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Right, I think that

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There are issues that came up

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I was literally talking about it when we talked with her I told her she could submit yeah

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I was told by the chairman and so to see and go through expensive very expensive things if we were not going to move forward

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so that's where we're at so that's why I don't have it because I was told I didn't have to happen listening to Tim

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the foundation plans or the or the pad should be relatively simple

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yes it's not like there's a lot of engineering involved no I would not give I

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would not expect it to take until December no I'm I agree I'm I like two

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months I like that's that's where I think I think they'll take about a month

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well I think she has to have it submitted by the 25 to get it on like if we

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give her till the end of September so it can be on October's like the 25th

390
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No, no, no.

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This is not something that'll be in another meeting.

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Yeah, this is saying, once she gets this thing,

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and Zach approves, hey, this is enough.

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Yeah, so then, and if I'm not sure,

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then she can move forward.

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So, but I want those things submitted

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to him within a deadline.

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Or else, this then becomes null and void.

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And then, we revert back to the penalties.

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So, I do.

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So, Fiat's my understanding that, and we've done this many times

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in different ways is we can vote to do this and approve it's contingent on you

403
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getting and then we list on the motion on you turning in this this this and

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this and then if there's a date and we put it down so we can make that decision

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now and as long as you would have followed the contingency things that need to be

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turned in once they're all done and checked off then you can move and you

407
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You don't have to come back, correct, Shelley?

408
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Yeah, and that's the problem, though,

409
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is that I feel like that's setting me up for failure

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because I'm not going to be here.

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So you are setting a date to have me do all of these things,

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and I literally won't even be here.

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If this is as important to you as you say it is,

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then you...

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There's no one here.

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I'm here maybe a week a month.

417
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OK, I can't help that, but right now,

418
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your building is illegal.

419
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Yeah, I can say no, and just keep fighting, and find you.

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or I'm giving you two months to get it worked out.

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Can she have a little representative?

422
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She doesn't even have to come back here.

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She doesn't have to come back here.

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She just has to get in to the mail, somebody has to bring in.

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Does that, right?

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That's it.

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So I'll leave it up to you right now if you want.

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Yeah.

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I don't have to be here to submit it.

430
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No.

431
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Understand that.

432
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No, but people have to be here to give me

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the things that you guys are asking me for.

434
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I understand. And I wouldn't be shared. But again, this is not of our doing it's. So what's the six

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months? Why am I not getting the six months? The six months is to start and get building. I'm

436
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giving you two months to get all the right paperwork into us to satisfy. To begin. To begin.

437
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And so what? So that's that's what we're saying right now. So if we're saying is it two months from

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today October or do I just say 15 October 1 October 1 October 1

439
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sounds good we do end of October yeah because that's because two two months

440
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would be October it's the 11th today October I will leave it up to you

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October tell me what you are coming to October how about October 11th

442
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That's two months.

443
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Two months?

444
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October 11th it is.

445
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Let me just add this to your motion.

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Documentation.

447
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Okay, she can email it on a Sunday.

448
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Any other time?

449
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Well, I'll go to October 12th just for the business day.

450
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How's that?

451
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Year two generous.

452
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Okay, let me read through this first to see if there's any additions that need to be made.

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To see if I've missed anything or if it's not clear.

454
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So please listen. So this is not the official motion. I'm just reading this. Okay. Here's the whereas the following has been addressed and accepted by the Planning Commissioners copy of written approval from the Hurricane Valley Fire Marshal.

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Complete engineering specification as required by town inspector. Both buildings we be inspected and approved

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to current building codes.

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There's concrete pad description is to code for the foundation of the relocated building.

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All documentation will be submitted to the town no later than October 12, 2026.

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Am I missing anything?

460
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Is there anything about anything more with the relocation plan, the plan to move the building?

461
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That would that would be the pad or is there will the pad that in the engineering part of the plan of the building plan because when she submits the plan kind of like this one with all the right

462
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Engineering it shows it where it's going to be where it's going to be moved to concrete's under there how she moves it we don't really

463
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Honestly, we have no control of this she could lift a crane it they could pull it with a tractor it does not matter on that what about

464
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I'm sure you have to fix suit as soon as he's already mentioned that is that it's already in there the sewer company understands it

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That's part and Zach will be involved with and that becomes the code part with and that's also involved in the engineering

466
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Yes, so we don't have any

467
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The difference in plumbing. Do we need a drawing where the new plumbing is going to go and the new sewer line? That's right. So it should be. That's why it's an engineering plan. There was also a plan. The engineering plan, the complete drawing. Yeah. Okay. I don't you don't have an engineering plan. You have an engineer inspected by the town and the building inspector is engineering planning. We can include all the engineering specifications as required by the town as required by the town.

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got it. Okay. So that will be in there. Got it. He'll say plumbing electrical. Okay. Okay.

469
00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:42,180
Good. Does that make sense? Yes. All right. Anything else then? All right. Then I will make a motion.

470
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,780
Whereas the application for building permit or building slash renovation

471
00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:54,760
permit for a home remodel located at 115 East Main Street, Rockville, Utah,

472
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:59,220
submitted by Sofia Obmanis has been submitted and whereas the following has been addressed and accepted

473
00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:03,880
by the Planning Commissioners. Number one, copy of written approval from the Hurricane

474
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,620
Valley Fire Marshal. Two, complete engineering specifications as required by town inspector.

475
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:10,680
Three.

476
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,780
Can't, are you saying these will be required?

477
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Yes.

478
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,060
Okay.

479
00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:15,580
I just sit here to read the requirements.

480
00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:19,920
When you, yeah, it sounded like it was already happened by the way you ordered it.

481
00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:23,060
Oh, just, uh, uh, it's not been reviewed.

482
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,080
It's contingent upon being required.

483
00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:25,400
Yeah.

484
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:26,740
It sounds like we already have it.

485
00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:27,460
In addition.

486
00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:31,380
The cut has approved on the contingency of, yeah.

487
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Thank you.

488
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Let's fix that and I'm going to go

489
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,200
contingent.

490
00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:09,160
Okay, let me read that again and see if you say.

491
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,780
Whereas the application for the building renovation permit

492
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:15,500
for a home remodel located at 115 East Main Street,

493
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680
Rockville, Utah submitted by Sophia Obmanis has been submitted

494
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,820
and whereas the following has been addressed and accepted

495
00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:23,900
and contingent on the list below by the planning commissions,

496
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:31,080
commissioners. Item number one, copy of a written approval from the Hurrican Valley Fire

497
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,340
Marshall to complete engineering specifications as required by the town inspector.

498
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:39,360
Three, both buildings will be inspected and approved to current building codes.

499
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:46,600
Four, the concrete pad, description is added and two code for the foundation of the relocated

500
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,980
building. And five, all documentation will be submitted to the town no later than October

501
00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:52,920
over 2012-2026.

502
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:56,840
Whereas this building project complies with the land use code and does not conflict with

503
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,600
the Rockfield General Plan and does not conflict with the nature of the community, I move

504
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,960
we approve this application.

505
00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:04,340
A lady aye.

506
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,680
I second the motion.

507
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:07,120
I second.

508
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,060
I'm sorry.

509
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,440
I'm sorry.

510
00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:10,100
Second the motion.

511
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:10,680
Laney.

512
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,160
I.

513
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,480
Angie aye.

514
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,580
Linda aye.

515
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,240
Jim aye.

516
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Jane no.

517
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:25,800
No, because it does not follow the definition of building attached, walls with at least two sides shall not constitute an attached building.

518
00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:27,300
Thank you, Jane.

519
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160
The motion does pass, before the one.

520
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:42,400
Okay, so if you have any questions going through with me, I will talk with Zach about specifications and we'll help anyway we can to get this through for you in two months.

521
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,800
but it is uncommon on you.

522
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,000
It's important as you want it to be.

523
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Okay, thank you very much.

524
00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:53,780
Okay, let's move on to item number five.

525
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,700
Approval of the minutes for June 9th,

526
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:56,980
2026 regular meeting.

527
00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:00,460
I definitely will.

528
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:04,180
Any questions with the minutes?

529
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:05,160
No.

530
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:08,240
And I need a second to approve it.

531
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,040
I'd like a second.

532
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:09,820
The approval.

533
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,580
All right.

534
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,020
Minutes.

535
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,840
We didn't make a motion yet.

536
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:18,980
I moved to approve the minutes, second to approve the report.

537
00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:20,940
Angie aye.

538
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:22,460
Linda aye.

539
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Tim aye.

540
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,400
Did we have a motion?

541
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Yes.

542
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Did you just do that?

543
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:29,560
I barely got it out and somebody approved it.

544
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:29,780
No.

545
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:30,780
Somebody seconded.

546
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:31,400
She seconded.

547
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:31,900
Okay.

548
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,760
All right.

549
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,060
And the minutes of the June 9th meeting?

550
00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:39,380
We were just moving along.

551
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:39,940
There we go.

552
00:34:40,140 --> 00:34:40,380
Second.

553
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:46,060
No action is planning commission report the next plan planning commission meeting will be on September 8

554
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,620
2026

555
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:54,360
Please put that on your calendars fantastic and we will have a second work meeting on the 8th as well

556
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Just look planned as we go over chapter two

557
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,180
Okay

558
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,220
Town office report

559
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:01,920
Nothing to report

560
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:12,380
And the motion to adjourn the work?

561
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Oh, not the regular meeting.

562
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,360
It says work meeting.

563
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:20,060
I would like to make a motion to adjourn our regular work meeting.

564
00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:21,640
And I second it.

565
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:22,980
That's sick of hope.

566
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,880
You can have a mess.

567
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:24,740
Laney, aye.

568
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,360
S.E.I.

569
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,380
Linda, aye.

570
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,080
Tim, aye.

571
00:35:31,690 --> 00:35:32,570
Oh, Jane, aye.

572
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:33,690
Thank you very much.

573
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:34,950
We'll come over.

574
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:36,070
All right, thank you.

575
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:43,370
OK, now I need to open the Rockville Planning Commission

576
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:46,490
in workmaining of August 11th, 2026.

577
00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:48,290
Do I need to take a roll call for this one too?

578
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:51,210
No, I do, I'll get a roll call.

579
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:54,490
A lady here, Angie here, Linda here,

580
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:57,990
Jim here, Jane here, Skyler here, Skyler's here.

581
00:35:58,170 --> 00:35:58,950
Thank you so much.

582
00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:01,530
First of all, I want to say thank you to Angie.

583
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:03,250
Thank you so much.

584
00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:05,510
Yeah, there's some things I'm not sure about.

585
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:07,690
I know, so today we're working on-

586
00:36:07,690 --> 00:36:08,010
Why does she know?

587
00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:09,470
I'm not sure about it.

588
00:36:09,650 --> 00:36:12,330
Number one, I need to go back to-

589
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:21,510
page. So what do we thank in her for? All the work she did on chapter one and two and three that she sent us. I just went through number one

590
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:29,590
and that's what we're going to discuss today because I have the comments. Did we get it hooked up? I sent it and then I think you sent it

591
00:36:29,590 --> 00:36:35,190
also. We both send it. And then I rescind it for yesterday. I don't get airs either. I

592
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:41,390
didn't get mail galore and I didn't get any of those. Well, I'll be pretty specific.

593
00:36:41,530 --> 00:36:48,410
I'll put it up and then you can see it on the screen. The first item was in section 1.2

594
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:48,870
purpose.

595
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:56,470
See that? Say that again. And in your land use code section 1.2 under purpose.

596
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:56,950
You have

597
00:37:07,610 --> 00:37:09,270
a copy of the code, right?

598
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:10,770
Chapter one.

599
00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:12,390
Here we go.

600
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:17,210
And after section seven, it says in that paragraph,

601
00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:19,150
it says it is the intention of the town in adopting

602
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:21,290
this code to fully exercise all powers granted.

603
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:21,830
Da, da, da.

604
00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:27,310
She changed the reference, right?

605
00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:28,110
Right.

606
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:32,250
Is now the reference for the state, correct?

607
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:33,610
Okay, hold on.

608
00:37:35,090 --> 00:37:44,170
I'm looking at chapter 1 right here, right, you may have 7 under, and they're number 2.

609
00:37:44,270 --> 00:37:48,270
The thing that she put in the page 1 chapter 1 is under my screen, because you can see the

610
00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:49,450
highlights and stuff right here.

611
00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:55,930
The paragraph after number 7, I can try and I just need, it's really pretty.

612
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:57,270
What do you have?

613
00:37:57,550 --> 00:37:58,630
It makes me feel like the beach.

614
00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:03,050
I need a USB-C to, I've got my email.

615
00:38:03,050 --> 00:38:06,150
and my iPad right here, and I didn't get any of this.

616
00:38:06,590 --> 00:38:07,710
Sometimes I don't get any mail.

617
00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:09,490
I check it every day, because I'm unavoidable.

618
00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:10,450
I get back to the kitchen and I'm like,

619
00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:11,890
I've gotten not one email,

620
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:14,130
and have you sent anything to the cat?

621
00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:14,390
I'm like,

622
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:15,710
and he told me that it's not one,

623
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:17,050
and I just check this out there.

624
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:18,750
Yeah, he's someone just today.

625
00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:19,870
They're the younger ones.

626
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:20,870
Yeah, that's a problem.

627
00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:21,990
I look today, I looked yesterday.

628
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:23,610
Angie, is that right here?

629
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:24,110
Peter?

630
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:27,370
It is, but it's not very well.

631
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:28,750
I'd rather be there.

632
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:37,210
Oh my God, I know that too, you're all good here, right?

633
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:38,810
Yeah, listen to this.

634
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:44,000
Yeah, great job.

635
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:45,420
We're going to fill out chairs around here.

636
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,300
And I want to check all the references that she mentioned in the work program.

637
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:51,400
And there's such a teacher.

638
00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:54,760
There was even a place on where it was on it, man.

639
00:38:54,860 --> 00:39:03,220
She referenced the new language that the state uses as opposed to cost for online adjustments.

640
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:22,480
Okay, let me move to yeah control plus

641
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:22,900
I guess.

642
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,120
I guess.

643
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:24,800
Apple.

644
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:26,640
I guess.

645
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,220
I guess.

646
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:27,900
All right.

647
00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:33,460
So, in the first section, as you can see, I'm going to look at that out.

648
00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:37,240
So, you can see where she says it is the intention of the town.

649
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:43,680
She's just changing the reference to the current state code, which is title 10, chapter 20.

650
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:45,100
I went and checked it.

651
00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:46,400
It's your first one.

652
00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:51,600
So, if we are in favor of that, I see it comes up and all that.

653
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,360
So I found that, are we getting rid of it or changing it or what?

654
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:21,660
I just want to make sure that I'm going to just go down to these things and don't leave.

655
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:22,640
All right.

656
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:32,680
In applicability and interpretation, I wasn't sure I had on 1, 3, paddle 1, 3, 1, plain language

657
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,540
which many of you in the courts will be top vote section 102901.

658
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:40,840
Let me expand that so you can read it all.

659
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:43,000
All right, there.

660
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:45,780
And let's see if any.

661
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:46,900
Let me go over.

662
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,820
I'm not seeing any changes.

663
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,880
I'm not seeing any changes.

664
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,440
I'm not seeing any changes.

665
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:50,780
I'm not seeing any changes.

666
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:52,220
They see the notes right there too.

667
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:54,440
Oh, I don't have those notes.

668
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:55,920
I'm not seeing any changes.

669
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:56,980
Okay.

670
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,860
I'm not sure.

671
00:40:58,860 --> 00:40:59,360
I'm not sure.

672
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,060
Yes.

673
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,940
Yes, I'll read up for you if you want.

674
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Where are we looking?

675
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,320
Right here to the side, that's a little bit of words over here.

676
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Okay.

677
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,040
And we got the, that's the emails that we got.

678
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:16,580
Yes.

679
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,880
Which you got if you open up the document, that's all you need.

680
00:41:20,140 --> 00:41:20,920
You won't go out like that.

681
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:21,600
You need to get it.

682
00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:22,520
I don't have it.

683
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:25,420
I brought my iPads so y'all can check my emails.

684
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,160
We sent it three times.

685
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:27,720
I know.

686
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:34,260
But that's happened before and I didn't get Tim's either take you to Best Buy and we could solve this problem

687
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:41,480
A new iPad that Andy hooked up for me and when he was at the last meeting he had this for a week

688
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,720
My iPad, so I don't know what's wrong with it

689
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,620
The whole thing

690
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:08,000
So what I did was I went and I took the state stuff and then I pulled it in and then

691
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,940
I practiced it for a year's long time and not a year for a year or a lot of work.

692
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:21,380
And so the claim language, maybe, is kind of a thing that says, you know, it's not mechanical.

693
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:23,800
It's a gray area.

694
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,140
if there's any question it has to do for the lay-end property owner okay which

695
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:44,740
did attorney said that night okay okay okay okay I get I get one point three

696
00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:51,140
point a depending but we can read format that we can read format that

697
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,700
But I think that's a good place to put it, isn't it, but the ability and interpretation

698
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:59,020
is the right answer to the question.

699
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:04,900
And this was the language directly from the state code.

700
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:06,640
She did not interpret the code.

701
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,020
But I didn't find it.

702
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:10,980
You didn't find it.

703
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,620
It's a good place to put it.

704
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:14,700
Okay,

705
00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:18,520
I agree with that.

706
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,100
adding that to there.

707
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,620
I'm trying to make you dizzy.

708
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Can you back up a little bit and tell us where we are?

709
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,360
Too far. There we go.

710
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,260
111, thank you.

711
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,240
111.

712
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,560
This has to do with the...

713
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,240
When does this planning...

714
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,860
What does an application need to be done?

715
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:50,860
What are they going to be the very specific subject?

716
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,460
We have been a little wily nilly in the cases

717
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:55,720
so let's discuss it and talk about it

718
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:57,460
and see how we want to change it because it's like,

719
00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:01,120
she's added that what she wants to add,

720
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,880
because we're saying it has to be in 21 calendar days.

721
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:05,340
That's what our code is currently set.

722
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:09,460
She wants to add that within three business days,

723
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,880
we, as the planning commissioner,

724
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:16,260
will have reviewed it and sent back.

725
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:23,760
If they're missing anything, if they're required to do it, then three of us this thing is just required by law.

726
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,940
And it doesn't have to be, well, American people law.

727
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:33,020
It was saying that really, our people are not going to need to do this based on it.

728
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,420
I don't know if you know how to finish it.

729
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:35,100
Yeah.

730
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,220
But in small towns it's going to be a law.

731
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,880
And I didn't put them in small towns.

732
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,660
It's just really kind of, you can do it in other ways.

733
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,560
So the three the three days is arbitrary.

734
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:25,450
I would like to make it five working days because you know how hard it is to get a hold of some of us some days. I won't even break your arm there anything. I am located with five. I think we've done a pretty good job of trying to get in as soon as possible. Yeah, I would say five working days. Let's be specific. Are we adding that to under where it says 21 calendar days? Yeah.

735
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:29,470
Okay. Yeah, sure.

736
00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:34,390
sure. So five. That's after the 21 days. I don't know. So you're

737
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:39,050
aiming for the plan 21 days ahead of time. That's it. You submitted. We have within

738
00:45:39,050 --> 00:45:45,250
five days, we've got the fact to you if you're missing this, this, this, this. So this

739
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:50,970
is what we're going to add. I would also like to add, and we perhaps tell me if

740
00:45:50,970 --> 00:45:56,430
our new, if our new building permit says this, I would like to add, there is a

741
00:45:56,430 --> 00:46:00,710
a limited time for that extra stuff to be tossed in.

742
00:46:01,970 --> 00:46:04,550
We need to have it a week before the meeting,

743
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:08,090
five business days prior to the meeting,

744
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,030
so that we have a chance to review things.

745
00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:12,790
We've had meetings where this is,

746
00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:14,310
hey, you're missing this and this and this,

747
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:15,870
and they hand it to us at a meeting.

748
00:46:16,330 --> 00:46:18,430
And we're like, what the, I don't have time for this

749
00:46:18,430 --> 00:46:19,350
to review this.

750
00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:23,410
That's so true, and I thought if everything was complete

751
00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:32,810
but I don't check it. I don't look and say, look, there's no footing plan on here. That's

752
00:46:32,810 --> 00:46:39,190
you guys. That's the outcomes we've done in the past. And so I like adding that line to it,

753
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:43,630
but I also don't agree with you. Let's have a deadline for it. Hey, if you don't have it in,

754
00:46:43,830 --> 00:46:49,530
high business days, like everything completed, right? Then we're not going to bother with you at the

755
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:55,190
10 days before what five business days prior to the

756
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:59,170
meeting. Here's what's happening 21 days. Let's say they submit it on Friday.

757
00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:05,530
Okay. We don't even get it back until the next Friday. There's already seven days

758
00:47:05,530 --> 00:47:11,230
gone. Five guys get it. Seven days, you know, to get the builder to get their

759
00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:17,210
stuff corrected. Sometimes that's tough. I would I fly five. I know yeah but I'll

760
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:26,910
I would really like it to say five business days prior to the date of the meeting, so Tuesday doesn't count.

761
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:34,390
To get everything back in, after you guys read comments, this is what you need.

762
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:44,230
Monday, no, Tuesday the day of that Tuesday, so the fact that one week before the meeting, that's our five business days.

763
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:47,170
So today doesn't count as one of those five days.

764
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:48,810
So we'll stick with five and five.

765
00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:51,490
Five days after the 21, we'll get back it.

766
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:54,030
And then five days before the day of the meeting,

767
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:56,030
you get all of it back to us.

768
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:57,110
OK.

769
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:57,610
Hi.

770
00:47:57,690 --> 00:47:59,630
So I think once everything's into you,

771
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:01,710
you can come and take me to get all the stuff back.

772
00:48:02,030 --> 00:48:03,410
It won't take me long at all.

773
00:48:04,450 --> 00:48:06,150
There's a bring them in packets.

774
00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:09,890
All I would just say is the rest of the packets here,

775
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:10,770
come and get it.

776
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:19,910
But because recently we had some men that didn't bring it in packets, and I just called and asked them to come back because I am not going to sort through it to make cancer tales.

777
00:48:21,850 --> 00:48:31,430
I want to say that this has come into play in the distant past, so don't take offense.

778
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:41,090
We've had commissioners say this is not complete, so we're not going to talk about it.

779
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:50,550
Do we want to change complete building permit because we don't really ask them to have

780
00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:52,930
a complete building permit 21 days in advance?

781
00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:59,750
We prefer a complete building permit, but we know it's not going to happen.

782
00:49:00,750 --> 00:49:06,590
Can we be a little more flexible with that? You want to leave complete in there because it's

783
00:49:06,590 --> 00:49:07,330
inspirational.

784
00:49:09,790 --> 00:49:14,410
That's everybody's interpretation of complete though, it's different.

785
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:19,130
Yeah, but again, that's where our five days end when you're missing this.

786
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:25,430
Okay. Yeah, I agree. I like being more specific with our times. I like that a lot.

787
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:34,530
All right. Cool. All right. So, we would add in here within five business days of receiving

788
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:44,370
food and completed any missing checklist items must be resubmitted within five days.

789
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:50,210
Must be before the meeting. And I suggest this to add the penalty on that or it will not

790
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:59,050
Yeah, oh, that's a good one. Oh that in there. Yeah. She's alive. Wow.

791
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:11,050
You have drugs. I have oral surgery on Wednesday. Oh, no.

792
00:50:11,050 --> 00:50:13,050
No. He's right here.

793
00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:14,030
Yes.

794
00:50:17,110 --> 00:50:18,330
And I have it on record.

795
00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:20,730
And I will put this all together.

796
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:23,070
And I'm going to put it on one sheet of paper

797
00:50:23,070 --> 00:50:23,850
instead of the whole thing.

798
00:50:24,350 --> 00:50:25,650
I want this is this.

799
00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:26,730
This is what we're going to do.

800
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:28,050
I'm going to make sure I get that.

801
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:28,370
Okay.

802
00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:31,490
So we're going to add it has to be done

803
00:50:32,330 --> 00:50:33,890
or it's not on the agenda.

804
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:34,490
That is correct.

805
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:36,210
It will not.

806
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:37,050
Okay, section.

807
00:50:37,390 --> 00:50:38,250
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

808
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:40,330
I have a question on that.

809
00:50:40,330 --> 00:50:44,910
Yes. The option is we're going now post in the agenda 10 days before the meeting

810
00:50:46,090 --> 00:50:51,850
and so it might be on the agenda but it would just be continued.

811
00:50:52,330 --> 00:50:57,250
Okay. Okay. So we'll be continuing to the next.

812
00:50:57,590 --> 00:51:01,450
Right. There's nothing wrong with making a last minute amended agenda.

813
00:51:01,610 --> 00:51:05,050
I agree with that but let's not try to. We don't have to.

814
00:51:05,050 --> 00:51:15,630
Yeah, so wait, let's just make sure I want to take her and make sure we're going to say then instead of it will be removed from the agenda will be continued to the next meeting.

815
00:51:16,070 --> 00:51:16,730
Is that okay?

816
00:51:17,370 --> 00:51:17,730
No.

817
00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:18,590
No.

818
00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:19,210
Why?

819
00:51:19,630 --> 00:51:22,190
Because they may not have it before the next meeting.

820
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:24,410
They may not have it.

821
00:51:25,310 --> 00:51:27,270
Oh, I see what you're saying.

822
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:30,750
We move from the agenda, figure it out again.

823
00:51:30,970 --> 00:51:33,710
We'll put you back on an agenda once we have your shape.

824
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:34,150
Stuff.

825
00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:35,750
Okay.

826
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:36,750
All right, all right.

827
00:51:36,850 --> 00:51:37,470
One, two, one.

828
00:51:37,550 --> 00:51:37,990
One, one.

829
00:51:38,370 --> 00:51:38,810
Exceptions.

830
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:39,710
Tennis.

831
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:40,470
Simple permit.

832
00:51:41,070 --> 00:51:41,530
All right.

833
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:41,970
Opposite.

834
00:51:48,370 --> 00:51:49,230
Right there.

835
00:51:49,390 --> 00:51:49,510
Right there.

836
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:50,070
Right there.

837
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:51,110
Okay.

838
00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:53,010
Okay.

839
00:51:54,210 --> 00:51:54,550
Okay.

840
00:51:57,250 --> 00:52:11,170
I think that's a simple permit just a simple permit just that is in the office

841
00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:15,250
it doesn't go anywhere but to you guys or somebody to look at and sign like

842
00:52:15,250 --> 00:52:21,310
Tim or somebody legally do we need a time frame on a simple permit like like you

843
00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:23,110
need to get it back to me in a week.

844
00:52:34,660 --> 00:52:41,400
I mean, legally, did you find anything on, on, on, hey, this town is dragging their feet

845
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,600
on this simple permit?

846
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:44,620
Uh, on a simple permit?

847
00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:45,000
Yeah.

848
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,420
No.

849
00:52:46,140 --> 00:52:46,380
Actually.

850
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:46,980
Okay.

851
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Because this is a simple permit.

852
00:52:48,440 --> 00:53:00,840
So we can put, I mean, for our future footdraggers, we can put it in the code and say a simple permit needs to be approved by the

853
00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:07,100
planning commission, but answered either approved or denied within five Christmas days.

854
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,540
That's usually the exact same one.

855
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:09,080
Five?

856
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Five?

857
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:09,940
Okay.

858
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:18,240
I think that is really, I mean, we're putting this because we're diligent, but the next group of us

859
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,620
might be a bunch of slackers.

860
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:25,600
But a simple building permit can't have that one or two

861
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:35,900
dwelling. That doesn't apply at all. That doesn't apply for the top of it. Yeah, because

862
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:37,080
that doesn't fit there.

863
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,780
Computers. Most time it's the operator.

864
00:53:51,570 --> 00:53:55,970
I don't want to add this stuff. I mean, we've already changed it to five. It says, like,

865
00:53:56,090 --> 00:54:01,850
notification of incompleteness. Okay, we have three days of fine automation. It pauses

866
00:54:01,850 --> 00:54:05,550
the screening period. So the applicant can provide us with this.

867
00:54:06,310 --> 00:54:08,930
Or reject it. Yeah, just leave it how you had it.

868
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,450
Are we still on the simple?

869
00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:15,310
If you don't get to list it in five days, you're off in Egypt.

870
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:18,130
This is regular permit.

871
00:54:18,490 --> 00:54:20,390
This is regular permit back again.

872
00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:24,450
I think we can be more succinct.

873
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:28,250
And the legal presumption, I don't want to give it.

874
00:54:28,450 --> 00:54:30,290
I don't want us to have to say that.

875
00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:32,970
And nobody works by five o'clock anyway.

876
00:54:34,090 --> 00:54:35,230
Only Jimmy Buffett.

877
00:54:35,230 --> 00:54:41,710
Okay, so on this, and she is a true, we have this old diagram thing in the book.

878
00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:51,650
Oh yeah, the company that redid our code, really like diagrams.

879
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:53,850
Really, really like some.

880
00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:00,710
Do we need a flow chart?

881
00:55:01,370 --> 00:55:05,930
I like the data there.

882
00:55:06,190 --> 00:55:06,670
Me too.

883
00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:07,470
I like it.

884
00:55:07,610 --> 00:55:09,510
Yeah, we would need to amend this.

885
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:13,010
But do you want a flow chart?

886
00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:14,170
Yes.

887
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:15,230
Okay.

888
00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:16,010
Pictures are good.

889
00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:17,270
Pictures are good.

890
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:18,470
No, no, no.

891
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:18,930
It's right.

892
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:19,930
There's no pictures.

893
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:21,030
It's called a flow chart.

894
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:21,550
Well.

895
00:55:23,530 --> 00:55:31,470
So, okay, then we just need to update the flow chart to our current and new ideas.

896
00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:34,290
Hey.

897
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:35,310
Isn't it pretty?

898
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:36,530
Yeah.

899
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:37,470
I don't know why.

900
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:38,450
Why?

901
00:55:38,730 --> 00:55:40,070
There's no indication of what it is.

902
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:42,150
Yeah, why did it change to yellow?

903
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:44,390
Did you run out of blue ink?

904
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:56,410
All right, we'll go on into section 1.1.3, special application process.

905
00:55:56,730 --> 00:56:03,730
Again, this code as well, thank you, and you can do it that just, again, we're, well,

906
00:56:03,850 --> 00:56:11,770
she gave us, if it was still live or not, we're going to go to, because that, I'm sorry.

907
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:13,610
So what do we put down?

908
00:56:14,850 --> 00:56:17,110
We're going to change these codes.

909
00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:20,330
We're going to take our code and change it to these numbers.

910
00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:24,230
Because it's changing their codes all the time.

911
00:56:24,790 --> 00:56:26,170
I mean, it's changing a thousand codes.

912
00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:28,630
Somebody gets paid just to do that.

913
00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:32,270
Roger said that we shouldn't even refer to them

914
00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:35,370
because of that, because it's continually changing every year.

915
00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:38,390
So should we just say you talk code?

916
00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:39,070
No.

917
00:56:39,070 --> 00:56:45,650
I think if we give a good system of doing it like this and we have diligent people as

918
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:48,310
Jean said in the interviews, it works.

919
00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:54,110
Now I did go and look up and again, I didn't read the whole code, but the first section which explains the code did match this.

920
00:56:54,430 --> 00:56:56,510
So, they worked, so these are correct.

921
00:56:57,010 --> 00:56:57,250
Okay.

922
00:56:57,450 --> 00:56:58,250
So we want to change those.

923
00:56:58,870 --> 00:57:03,130
And then this is number three, which I refer to in 133's.

924
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:05,710
It's not law-climate adjustment now.

925
00:57:05,710 --> 00:57:13,470
Now the state considers it administrative boundary adjustment and administrative boundary adjustment

926
00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:18,550
shall be reviewed in accordance with the regulations that form in the Utah code which is basically

927
00:57:18,550 --> 00:57:25,910
saying in that one now if it's a simple one it can be done by my signature or somebody in

928
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:31,550
the planning mission it does not have to come before the planning commission to do a simple

929
00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:35,350
That's what that code, that's what that's what that state code is.

930
00:57:35,350 --> 00:57:40,850
Now there's specifics for this, they have to have all the permission from everybody involved, they have to have drawings and stuff.

931
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:45,590
But it's not done in front of the planning commission, it is just done administratively.

932
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:56,870
I'll tell you, a lot line adjustment doesn't normally go before us anyway because it goes through the county and then they bring it to the town and say this is what I've already done.

933
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:57,410
But

934
00:57:59,620 --> 00:58:01,240
it doesn't have to be a lot longer.

935
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Except the problem is when they make a lot clearer

936
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,220
then we end up back in trouble again.

937
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:09,780
Well, because they are then out of compliance, yeah.

938
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,080
But that's, to them, they're really bland, it's not.

939
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,780
But anyway, the new wording is, so you know,

940
00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:18,240
at the administrative foundry adjustment.

941
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,340
OK, I'm good with that.

942
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:25,140
And where's the second one referring to?

943
00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:26,320
Which one?

944
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,780
I know what's the one underneath them.

945
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,000
10 to 1, 06.

946
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:33,580
That's the very kind of stuff.

947
00:58:33,580 --> 00:58:34,260
Is it the same thing?

948
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:34,760
Yes.

949
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:35,540
OK.

950
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:36,420
OK.

951
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:39,060
It's words and numbers.

952
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:41,940
The words have changed, and then the numbers have changed.

953
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:45,880
13, 17.

954
00:58:48,660 --> 00:58:49,180
All the way up.

955
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:49,740
All the way up.

956
00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:51,240
Oh, by giving them all the answers can change.

957
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,060
Chapter six.

958
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,380
No, seven.

959
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:54,800
That's all the four pages.

960
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:55,700
I'll give the sentence.

961
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Seven.

962
00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:57,500
Three.

963
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:00,140
Somebody sign up for seven, because seven's already changed.

964
00:59:00,140 --> 00:59:01,320
down by the state law.

965
00:59:05,110 --> 00:59:08,550
Right there. Section 1.24.

966
00:59:10,570 --> 00:59:14,330
One point two four of what where are we now?

967
00:59:14,890 --> 00:59:22,110
Here on. Wait. Oh wow. Chapter one. Yeah. It kind of goes through the standards for review and

968
00:59:22,110 --> 00:59:22,950
appeals three.

969
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,060
I keep going down a little bit over here.

970
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,400
Right there.

971
00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:44,100
Chapter one,

972
00:59:48,380 --> 00:59:56,720
the state requires, yes, the state requires where they have to have an appeals process.

973
00:59:56,980 --> 00:59:58,980
We can't just be the end.

974
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:28,880
We've always had that. Yeah, but we've had it now referring to this co-rank. And is there any new? Going down. I want to change. I read through. I didn't. But I will add this on. This is on appeals. Uh-huh. I didn't catch the number when you were scrubs. It's 1.24. 3.

975
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,300
They keep going down.

976
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,160
Point two, four.

977
01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:33,420
Does it say that it still can go to the

978
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:35,340
I keep variant hearing officer?

979
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:40,620
Because right now ours goes to the town council

980
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:42,440
and then to the variant of the city.

981
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,180
It doesn't automatically go to the variant's officer though.

982
01:00:46,420 --> 01:00:48,500
He's the appeal board after the town council.

983
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Okay.

984
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,100
So like they, if they, if they got denied here,

985
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:56,740
then they go to the town council and appeal.

986
01:00:57,300 --> 01:00:59,440
And then they get denied there.

987
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,320
They go to the variant's office.

988
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:03,500
Before they can go to court.

989
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:04,340
Yes.

990
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,440
It has to go on those steps.

991
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:07,960
But is that what this says?

992
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,540
Yes. Well, it does not say anything about the variants.

993
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,920
See what this is, the exhaustion of the variant.

994
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,700
But what it does say, and I'll just paraphrase this,

995
01:01:16,820 --> 01:01:18,880
I will put this all out into the full documents

996
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720
and read it and you want to work up stuff, that's great.

997
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,260
But it's saying there, first of all,

998
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:34,920
There appeal can only be on the one item or the item that doesn't match, you can't be on multiple things, I can't go.

999
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:38,360
Why didn't like it because they didn't tell me everything, you know?

1000
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Your appeal has to be very specific. There's one item.

1001
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:45,360
It doesn't match the fact that my lose code or whatever that's the item.

1002
01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:48,960
Does that mean we have to deny it on only one item?

1003
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,980
Which is really what we do, right?

1004
01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:59,740
We reference let's say maybe they had a lot of crap. Okay, but then they can appeal only on they have an appeal on each one of those

1005
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:04,660
So only decisions and I'll read it out here only decisions

1006
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:13,100
As applied a land use organs to a particular application or similar parts or maybe appeal to the town council

1007
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,040
So I guess it's the whole

1008
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:29,240
And it just says the person who's bringing the appeal has their responsibility to do the proofing

1009
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:40,750
Now where do we have that in our land use code is it right below?

1010
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:48,290
It

1011
01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:53,170
It might be nice

1012
01:02:54,370 --> 01:02:56,070
To put it here

1013
01:02:57,550 --> 01:03:03,090
last attorney. Thank you. Okay. Do you see what I mean? It might be nice to put it here.

1014
01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:07,930
If you see in 3D right there, it does say the applicant shall bear the burden improved.

1015
01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:15,650
Okay. Thank you. The last year's party was in here. Cool. Let's see it. So this is just a little bit more legal means

1016
01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:23,650
than that just the state code which I like. So do you like? Are you going to take all ABCDE and F out and

1017
01:03:23,650 --> 01:03:27,790
put this other one in, because those are almost worked for, I mean, those are the exact

1018
01:03:27,790 --> 01:03:28,470
thing.

1019
01:03:29,470 --> 01:03:32,710
I'm going to, I'm going to go back and look at it and I'll make some suggestions.

1020
01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:33,030
Okay.

1021
01:03:34,090 --> 01:03:35,910
Because that's talking about the same thing.

1022
01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:42,330
Yeah, I, it appears that ours was taken from the state code.

1023
01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:45,330
These are matching, matching.

1024
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:46,150
You're probably right.

1025
01:03:48,070 --> 01:03:48,510
Right.

1026
01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:52,830
See because you're F in there and D in and C in and C in and C.

1027
01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:53,010
Right.

1028
01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:57,550
I think we should concentrate on the things I think.

1029
01:03:59,550 --> 01:04:00,930
Don't touch what I'm saying.

1030
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:04,870
Today maybe.

1031
01:04:05,830 --> 01:04:06,870
Do you think I read about the dirt?

1032
01:04:08,350 --> 01:04:08,970
What did I read?

1033
01:04:09,250 --> 01:04:09,410
Oh.

1034
01:04:09,950 --> 01:04:11,110
I read the states.

1035
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:13,250
All right.

1036
01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:19,970
You're now, again, section 1.26, just referring again, changing the code to refer to the new state code.

1037
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,160
And then they just don't make this a problem.

1038
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,420
Yeah, that thing I tried to do, it's not going to be something new.

1039
01:04:28,820 --> 01:04:29,140
Where?

1040
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:29,960
The agenda.

1041
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,300
It does not show websites.

1042
01:04:32,020 --> 01:04:33,140
Well, it's because you're not an org.

1043
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:33,980
You're a go.

1044
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,240
Yeah.

1045
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,020
It's a new...

1046
01:04:36,020 --> 01:04:37,080
It's not even close to us.

1047
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,220
We need to change that in our internet.

1048
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:39,440
Correct.

1049
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:39,500
Okay.

1050
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:41,860
Oxfileutide.org.

1051
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,120
I'm live, old.

1052
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,700
When we just have to make sure we refer to our preferred

1053
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:49,520
interpretation, we need to make that.

1054
01:04:50,660 --> 01:04:54,840
But again, very public gratitude to Angie.

1055
01:04:55,260 --> 01:04:55,460
Yes.

1056
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,880
And because this is a great organize way to do it,

1057
01:04:59,420 --> 01:05:02,680
if you do not have them, I'm going to challenge them this time.

1058
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,820
I will have this up to you in the next week,

1059
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,900
with all of you so you can do it.

1060
01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:12,680
We are having a work meeting where we review chapter 2, which is definitions next time.

1061
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:17,980
If you pull it open, just like she said in the Google Docs, you will see all the stuff

1062
01:05:17,980 --> 01:05:18,460
on the right.

1063
01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:24,520
And then I would like you to be familiar with it, and then I would use it as a gift to you

1064
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,480
to do it.

1065
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,740
So we're prepared to discuss it, just like the definitions.

1066
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:28,340
Right.

1067
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:29,560
Definitions.

1068
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:30,580
Which is an important one.

1069
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:33,140
Like we found a few of them.

1070
01:05:33,340 --> 01:05:33,480
Yes.

1071
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,840
Yes, let's talk about them and let's be specific, I agree.

1072
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:40,860
We might go back to the point, but I've been through the definitions.

1073
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:42,660
I had some questions.

1074
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:43,780
Yes.

1075
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:44,580
Change.

1076
01:05:45,260 --> 01:05:46,120
It wasn't in there.

1077
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:48,300
It wasn't there.

1078
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:52,520
But then we're going to have to go back once we got back to the point.

1079
01:05:53,620 --> 01:05:54,200
We will.

1080
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,580
This is at least the end of the basis.

1081
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,460
We might not change officially with, because the process is, right.

1082
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,580
We didn't want to make a change.

1083
01:06:01,580 --> 01:06:07,360
We have a meeting where the town can come and go, hey, then we go get great,

1084
01:06:07,660 --> 01:06:09,880
let's change it some more, and then we vote, correct?

1085
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:10,620
Right.

1086
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:13,300
And then wait, do we have to have an opening again?

1087
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,700
No, we've made changes.

1088
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,500
No, it goes, we have a meeting?

1089
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:18,920
Yup.

1090
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:20,500
We close our little meeting.

1091
01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:21,820
Open the meeting.

1092
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,620
Open a hearing?

1093
01:06:23,020 --> 01:06:23,160
Yup.

1094
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,540
Listen to people.

1095
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,900
Close it.

1096
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,260
Talk amongst ourselves.

1097
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,120
Hey, Phil said this.

1098
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:37,760
I never thought of that before. We want to change it this way and make changes and then we vote on it.

1099
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:45,860
And then it goes to the town. And then we say we would like to recommend that you change your land use code here.

1100
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,240
Yes, ma'am.

1101
01:06:49,180 --> 01:06:55,620
We could we can do it for we would have to we would have to review it.

1102
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:06,060
Each word by word, each thing here, and tell the public, we change this, we added the proper state code on this.

1103
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,020
We can do the whole thing, but we will have to go,

1104
01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:24,550
we want to do it in pieces that our neighbors are not going to get pissed of us for sitting here that long.

1105
01:07:25,610 --> 01:07:33,850
so like this not not too long so we might we might want to do that and we don't

1106
01:07:33,850 --> 01:07:47,410
they don't we don't have to be in order and I oppose it because of this

1107
01:07:47,410 --> 01:07:51,290
this and then somebody else would get to say I'm totally in favor whatever I hate

1108
01:07:51,290 --> 01:07:56,310
that number on the state law? I'm not putting it in there. Make up a new number.

1109
01:07:58,450 --> 01:08:07,570
So we have to go over right. Yeah, we can overwrite. We most of the time those hearings,

1110
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:13,110
whatever their hearings are on, they bring up ideas we hadn't thought of. It's like, you know,

1111
01:08:13,210 --> 01:08:18,830
we've been talking about this for a long time, but that's a very good point. And then maybe we amend it before we change it.

1112
01:08:18,830 --> 01:08:25,210
If I remember right from James, I appreciate this, is that she said that exact thing.

1113
01:08:25,390 --> 01:08:33,610
And we didn't really think about that, and I think we even tabled it and said, let's discuss it among us in another time before you change it.

1114
01:08:33,730 --> 01:08:34,810
Exactly, it didn't fall.

1115
01:08:36,310 --> 01:08:37,430
All right, any questions?

1116
01:08:38,530 --> 01:08:45,990
So assignment again is, you got that lady, you didn't get her, you know, I did yet, okay.

1117
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:55,510
So, and you saw the comments, but I mean, I love our computer savvy, but I did go, oh, I have to click on this, and I'm like, oh, oh, I just feel here.

1118
01:08:55,750 --> 01:08:57,030
So, get along and understand.

1119
01:08:57,550 --> 01:09:09,850
Please, the more online you get on it, the more mistakes that they're covered, especially with the plan use code, or the state coding, took me 10 tactics to go, let me see this.

1120
01:09:09,850 --> 01:09:13,590
So what did you do? And it gave me, of course, a synopsis that this feels like this.

1121
01:09:14,130 --> 01:09:14,870
All right. Fantastic.

1122
01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:16,970
I'll see you in the next one.

1123
01:09:19,530 --> 01:09:19,690
Thank you.

1124
01:09:19,690 --> 01:09:19,850
Thank you.

1125
01:09:20,150 --> 01:09:24,290
I don't find a logic in my mind.

1126
01:09:25,450 --> 01:09:28,170
I put my name to something and it was close to that.

1127
01:09:28,350 --> 01:09:29,350
So I did go out.

1128
01:09:31,390 --> 01:09:31,790
Nice.

1129
01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:32,890
Thank you, gentlemen.

1130
01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:36,810
Any questions?

1131
01:09:36,810 --> 01:09:40,550
All right, so again, the assignment next wheel is those windows.

1132
01:09:41,170 --> 01:09:43,650
I want to hit chapter two.

1133
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:45,090
After two definitions.

1134
01:09:45,470 --> 01:09:48,470
I was looking at all my backpack right here.

1135
01:09:48,790 --> 01:09:49,310
So it went.

1136
01:09:49,730 --> 01:09:51,550
If you want you to see it, it went in the backpack.

1137
01:09:52,190 --> 01:09:53,170
In the magic backpack.

1138
01:09:53,630 --> 01:09:54,250
Let's see if we can put it in.

1139
01:09:54,490 --> 01:09:54,950
Who's anything?

1140
01:09:58,250 --> 01:10:00,110
We'll be having more coming next time.

1141
01:10:00,270 --> 01:10:02,350
We'll talk about this and start on chapter two.

1142
01:10:03,190 --> 01:10:07,970
If you guys think two is going to be too big, and she just said maybe we don't have any.

1143
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:18,930
No, no, two might be too big all at once for the neighbors, but we'll tell you when we're

1144
01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:19,150
done.

1145
01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:21,830
Okay, we're at the bees.

1146
01:10:22,190 --> 01:10:22,850
I'm out of here.

1147
01:10:23,370 --> 01:10:25,290
I don't want to do the building permit tonight.

1148
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:26,630
I want to talk to you about it.

1149
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:27,310
Okay, that's fine.

1150
01:10:27,310 --> 01:10:30,350
Okay, so she hanged out a copy of her building permit hall.

1151
01:10:30,410 --> 01:10:34,490
Yeah, and we want to revise it so that they have their off to the side.

1152
01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:36,510
The look at page 13.

1153
01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:44,490
This is what it's referring to except that we changed some of it because they,

1154
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:48,330
before it said that they had to get the approval from the paragraph district and

1155
01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:50,210
we don't do that anymore.

1156
01:10:50,690 --> 01:10:51,890
They bring us the plan.

1157
01:10:52,030 --> 01:10:53,470
They send it to the fire marshal.

1158
01:10:53,470 --> 01:10:56,890
He sends it back to us saying yes, no, or otherwise.

1159
01:10:57,510 --> 01:11:02,690
and make sure you guys they need that before you guys can approve it okay so

1160
01:11:02,690 --> 01:11:06,990
it's not up to them it's up to us it's up to them to get us a pdf yeah it says

1161
01:11:06,990 --> 01:11:12,370
now in the top and the other thing is on the second one that it says it the

1162
01:11:12,370 --> 01:11:17,690
owner's signature on a fire suppression yes that really doesn't apply because

1163
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:23,070
currently we have an a zone a fire one zone and a fire two zone

1164
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:32,310
please listen fire one zone is in town where there's fire hydrants that's

1165
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:36,670
good to know not everybody has a water connection they don't are entitled to a

1166
01:11:36,670 --> 01:11:41,770
fire hydrant they have wells we have three right now that two that have already

1167
01:11:41,770 --> 01:11:46,250
started or completed and one that's coming in that has a well well that's

1168
01:11:46,250 --> 01:11:51,250
different. We can't have them sign a fire so one because that doesn't apply to

1169
01:11:51,250 --> 01:11:58,170
them. So I called the fire marshal to what we can do to address that. I just

1170
01:11:58,170 --> 01:12:04,530
haven't heard that from him but that part right there needs to be fixed. If I

1171
01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:08,890
remember right that's just saying hey I'm aware of the fire's requirements.

1172
01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:14,250
That's not one thing. That's right. It does. But there's not one thing on that.

1173
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:25,290
So we need to change that so that when we give it to them to say, you're aware and here's the requirements, they're signing.

1174
01:12:25,490 --> 01:12:26,930
That's why I was asking the fire marshal.

1175
01:12:27,070 --> 01:12:27,250
Okay.

1176
01:12:27,730 --> 01:12:39,670
I don't think this matters because all we're asking is, did you get some sort of form that says you're aware of some sort of fire requirements?

1177
01:12:39,670 --> 01:12:39,990
Okay.

1178
01:12:40,450 --> 01:12:42,570
And that, yes, I got some sort of form.

1179
01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:45,310
Okay, because the forms need to be built fit.

1180
01:12:45,790 --> 01:12:47,730
Okay, so that form needs to be adjusted.

1181
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:47,930
Yeah.

1182
01:12:48,110 --> 01:12:49,490
But is that something we need to do?

1183
01:12:49,930 --> 01:12:50,050
Yeah.

1184
01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:50,770
Is it fine in commission?

1185
01:12:51,130 --> 01:12:52,650
Or is it just an administrative thing?

1186
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:53,270
It's just fine.

1187
01:12:53,370 --> 01:12:55,050
These are the new requirements for the fire.

1188
01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:56,510
All of this is administrative.

1189
01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:58,130
We don't really have to do anything.

1190
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:58,690
Okay.

1191
01:12:59,010 --> 01:13:00,270
We want you guys to see it.

1192
01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:00,790
We need your.

1193
01:13:01,010 --> 01:13:01,590
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1194
01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:02,510
That's why I ask that.

1195
01:13:02,510 --> 01:13:04,510
I feel like it doesn't matter to fire one of our two.

1196
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:05,090
What?

1197
01:13:05,290 --> 01:13:06,510
How can you address that issue?

1198
01:13:07,010 --> 01:13:07,190
Okay.

1199
01:13:08,210 --> 01:13:12,430
I would change the fire suppressant information to match and that's it.

1200
01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:16,670
And it used to say that you didn't have to have sprinklers if you lived in the fire thingy,

1201
01:13:16,710 --> 01:13:19,990
but you had to be aware that the fire hydrant wouldn't put out enough pressure.

1202
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:21,530
That's not up to us.

1203
01:13:21,770 --> 01:13:23,250
John's the one that's making them.

1204
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:25,430
So that form needs to be different.

1205
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:26,030
Correct.

1206
01:13:26,170 --> 01:13:27,010
Not this form.

1207
01:13:27,410 --> 01:13:28,390
It's the same form.

1208
01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:28,810
Yeah.

1209
01:13:29,050 --> 01:13:29,150
Okay.

1210
01:13:29,970 --> 01:13:37,170
But that is that fire suppression form included in our building permit form.

1211
01:13:37,170 --> 01:13:37,610
Yes.

1212
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:39,310
Can I ask a silly question?

1213
01:13:39,630 --> 01:13:39,850
Sure.

1214
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:40,930
It is for us.

1215
01:13:40,930 --> 01:13:46,590
Any way to like, I'm not familiar with the water situation as far as the hydrants go.

1216
01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:52,450
As someone who did a permit recently and had to fill out a paper saying it's almost a certainty,

1217
01:13:52,450 --> 01:13:54,630
if your house catches on fire, it's going to burn down.

1218
01:13:56,370 --> 01:13:58,710
How can the town fix that problem?

1219
01:13:58,810 --> 01:14:00,490
We can't.

1220
01:14:00,950 --> 01:14:03,530
Nothing that can be done to make sure there's water in the hydrants.

1221
01:14:03,670 --> 01:14:06,470
You did have somebody check the hydrants.

1222
01:14:06,850 --> 01:14:06,930
Yeah.

1223
01:14:07,390 --> 01:14:07,490
Yeah.

1224
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:09,330
So that our code would be correct.

1225
01:14:09,730 --> 01:14:09,890
Yeah.

1226
01:14:10,450 --> 01:14:12,110
And it has nothing to do with the town.

1227
01:14:12,230 --> 01:14:14,490
It's totally up to the pipeline to fix the pressure.

1228
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:18,390
So how are the hydrants?

1229
01:14:20,510 --> 01:14:24,610
There is a way, however, it's beyond the scope of what we're doing.

1230
01:14:24,610 --> 01:14:29,770
in charge of. Okay, and I'm not asking for like, like, who do we go to if we want to

1231
01:14:29,770 --> 01:14:30,230
petition?

1232
01:14:32,890 --> 01:14:37,950
We've known this since 30 years ago when I was, I didn't know, on to your

1233
01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:44,490
firefighter, the size of our pipes and the inadequacies of it, but they've handled it differently

1234
01:14:44,490 --> 01:14:49,910
now. We're on a different fire department. Correct. And I did, on those forms, I did take

1235
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:53,710
off the rocket spring no fire department because it did say that it's almost every paragraph.

1236
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:59,730
I'm kind of happy with the with calling it the fire suppression.

1237
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:17,780
Formation. Which would be fine. It's vague enough that it counts, that it covers both types of zones there. Fix the zones on the zone paper. Ask a builder a question. Why do we make them label the rooms?

1238
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:29,940
Indicate the use of all rooms included possible future uses of unfinished areas. Why is that? Because if you have, if something's a storage room, but I interpret

1239
01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:35,960
it as a bedroom and it doesn't have an egress window you know yeah and it has to do

1240
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:42,580
a subject. If you look at your cabinets and also how many rooms. In the last six months most

1241
01:15:42,580 --> 01:15:47,320
of the time when they come these in there's not a single thing that checked off. So I

1242
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,120
had an end of story. I know. So at that time I didn't even read it. That's that's where

1243
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:55,960
administratively we just say oh no I'm not taking that. But that's where this comes in.

1244
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,800
This makes them put a page number on it.

1245
01:15:57,900 --> 01:15:59,540
We talked about that idea.

1246
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,920
Also, that is something that you can do over the desk.

1247
01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:04,100
You say this.

1248
01:16:04,420 --> 01:16:05,800
I like that idea.

1249
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:06,580
Fix this.

1250
01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:07,660
Look at it.

1251
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:08,860
I can see blanks here.

1252
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,580
Fill these in.

1253
01:16:09,660 --> 01:16:11,360
The last one they just dropped the whole thing off

1254
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,080
and I didn't even look at it until they were gone,

1255
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:15,900
because anyway, so I understand.

1256
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:17,500
Please come.

1257
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:18,560
It's me again.

1258
01:16:19,780 --> 01:16:22,080
Well, and shelling and I were talking about whether or not we

1259
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,160
should just leave a blank where they put the indicated

1260
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:30,940
whatever they're coding it if it's page five or page six or whatever or if we

1261
01:16:30,940 --> 01:16:35,640
should actually put numbers in there and then if it's not in then all of them

1262
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:42,500
would be the same. So if we see an application and it says I don't know S5 that

1263
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:49,480
means a site plan all the time. So that was this way. So we thought to do it this

1264
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:50,700
way and then I don't know.

1265
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:57,440
I think when somebody says, Shelley, this is new.

1266
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,620
I didn't do this in my last house.

1267
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,860
What do they mean by page reference?

1268
01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:04,000
You can go, oh, you know what?

1269
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,900
It would really be helpful for the planning commissioners if you said

1270
01:17:07,540 --> 01:17:09,440
S for site plan 5.

1271
01:17:11,950 --> 01:17:13,250
Because they're going to ask you.

1272
01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:13,730
Correct.

1273
01:17:14,370 --> 01:17:14,990
What do you think?

1274
01:17:15,130 --> 01:17:15,630
Is that enough?

1275
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:19,390
Then we could put numbers in them.

1276
01:17:19,850 --> 01:17:28,790
Well, but then we are then we are requiring their architect to follow our rules.

1277
01:17:29,610 --> 01:17:31,690
Well, I mean they can just write down top of it.

1278
01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:33,690
Okay, it's yeah, I guess not going to happen.

1279
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:38,190
So I was just going to say like you're just saying it's not complete ever.

1280
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:39,670
And now you're going to add another requirement.

1281
01:17:40,370 --> 01:17:41,690
Reference everything that thing.

1282
01:17:41,970 --> 01:17:48,090
They put their own numbers on here because I can I can get the plans from the architect

1283
01:17:48,090 --> 01:17:50,670
And go, oh, okay, where is this?

1284
01:17:51,810 --> 01:17:54,790
It's on page of, yeah.

1285
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:55,650
A desk.

1286
01:17:55,710 --> 01:17:56,830
And you can just write it in there.

1287
01:17:57,190 --> 01:17:57,290
Yeah.

1288
01:17:58,410 --> 01:18:01,130
I notice we have, hey, I like it.

1289
01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:02,350
We have Benchmark twice.

1290
01:18:03,730 --> 01:18:06,630
But is that on the site plan and a different site plan?

1291
01:18:07,010 --> 01:18:08,790
You just got construction building plans.

1292
01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:10,230
Benchmark is number three.

1293
01:18:10,450 --> 01:18:13,250
And then on the back, you have Benchmark again.

1294
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:13,950
Okay.

1295
01:18:14,210 --> 01:18:16,050
Benchmark's on site plan and construction.

1296
01:18:16,050 --> 01:18:20,590
I'm going to say that these are probably two different types of benchmarks.

1297
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:26,910
The benchmark on the site plan is the benchmark on the property market.

1298
01:18:28,030 --> 01:18:28,550
I didn't change.

1299
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:29,350
Yeah, I'm super confused.

1300
01:18:29,950 --> 01:18:30,170
Okay, so.

1301
01:18:30,290 --> 01:18:31,830
Do we need to put that on the screen?

1302
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:32,710
Nope.

1303
01:18:33,370 --> 01:18:40,610
Well, a property benchmark is a surveyor's tool.

1304
01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:48,810
Under elevations, what we might want to consider is we have a construction benchmark,

1305
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:54,690
which is something the construction guy, if I'm wrong here, please interrupt.

1306
01:18:55,350 --> 01:19:04,190
The construction guy places a benchmark, so he can tell what is level and where the grade is.

1307
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:10,130
And from that benchmark, that's where we start measuring the 25 feet.

1308
01:19:10,130 --> 01:19:11,770
So what's the cycling benchmark?

1309
01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:16,850
That's a construction, that's a surveyor's benchmark.

1310
01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:18,970
So then I need to clarify that.

1311
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:21,690
Would you call it a surveyor's benchmark?

1312
01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:25,270
Well, that's the one on the property line.

1313
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:25,590
Yeah.

1314
01:19:25,690 --> 01:19:26,190
That's the one you're requiring.

1315
01:19:27,690 --> 01:19:28,910
What would you call it?

1316
01:19:29,570 --> 01:19:30,430
I have no idea.

1317
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:31,630
I'm not a surveyor.

1318
01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:33,850
I have a high-pitched property line benchmark.

1319
01:19:34,170 --> 01:19:37,190
The benchmark for a great benchmark is.

1320
01:19:37,190 --> 01:19:42,230
Yeah, and then then under elevations I might consider calling it a construction

1321
01:19:42,230 --> 01:19:46,130
benchmark. But what I'm saying is like you have the list starting right here

1322
01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:51,850
construction building plans, right? Yeah. And it goes through and then you turn the

1323
01:19:51,850 --> 01:19:58,230
page and it almost duplicates it exactly. Oh, oh, that's where you are. Yeah. Okay,

1324
01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:02,070
we don't need to do that twice. Yeah, we don't need elevations, benchmark, and

1325
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:17,170
I mean, it's identical, you know, we do see this, right here, same over here.

1326
01:20:17,410 --> 01:20:20,310
Yeah, this is definitely clearer, it's getting better for us to find something.

1327
01:20:20,630 --> 01:20:21,950
No, not all of it.

1328
01:20:22,170 --> 01:20:23,790
Getting easier for us to find our muscles.

1329
01:20:24,250 --> 01:20:24,750
Well, it's just not.

1330
01:20:26,330 --> 01:20:27,290
Yeah, but we have different.

1331
01:20:27,730 --> 01:20:29,410
We don't need that choice.

1332
01:20:30,990 --> 01:20:32,570
Our value is not there.

1333
01:20:32,710 --> 01:20:33,690
I think something's out.

1334
01:20:34,190 --> 01:20:36,990
Do we have LOD fence on the first page?

1335
01:20:37,630 --> 01:20:37,750
Yeah.

1336
01:20:38,510 --> 01:20:41,390
Okay, let's get rid of LOD fence on the second page.

1337
01:20:42,990 --> 01:20:46,570
Limits of disturbance fence on the second page.

1338
01:20:46,710 --> 01:20:48,930
Cross that out.

1339
01:20:50,370 --> 01:20:53,810
Limits of disturbance fence because it's already on the first page.

1340
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:55,970
We're on page number two.

1341
01:20:59,590 --> 01:21:06,310
Yeah, elevations, bench bar, and it's a disturbance, but it's in there better, so let's.

1342
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:07,670
All right, here in the back.

1343
01:21:08,090 --> 01:21:08,250
Yeah.

1344
01:21:08,610 --> 01:21:08,790
Okay.

1345
01:21:09,890 --> 01:21:11,010
I think that's the last one.

1346
01:21:11,210 --> 01:21:11,650
Elevations.

1347
01:21:12,010 --> 01:21:12,830
Am I wrong?

1348
01:21:12,970 --> 01:21:13,490
Is that the only three?

1349
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:14,170
From bench mark.

1350
01:21:15,250 --> 01:21:15,690
Right.

1351
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:18,650
And then also, here on the site corner, we have bench lock.

1352
01:21:18,810 --> 01:21:20,530
And then here on the construction building bar.

1353
01:21:20,530 --> 01:21:21,750
That's what we're just talking about.

1354
01:21:22,630 --> 01:21:22,850
Okay.

1355
01:21:22,850 --> 01:21:25,810
Where are you saying construction building plans?

1356
01:21:26,690 --> 01:21:27,310
Well, I'm just,

1357
01:21:31,770 --> 01:21:34,090
again, here's the list of requirements, right?

1358
01:21:34,810 --> 01:21:39,670
Here's those right here, bench marks, the elevations, and then here, again, it's saying,

1359
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:41,590
bench marks, construction building.

1360
01:21:41,630 --> 01:21:44,130
So, now I'm going to say there's two different bench marks.

1361
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:50,990
The site plan should have a surveyor's property-mind bench mark.

1362
01:21:51,390 --> 01:21:51,670
Okay.

1363
01:21:52,270 --> 01:21:54,630
And then the construction plan has the construction bench.

1364
01:21:54,630 --> 01:22:00,950
Instruction ventures in the elevations. Yeah, so the so the grades we do the grade by that benchmark

1365
01:22:00,950 --> 01:22:04,530
Yeah, I'm gonna eat these walnuts and I'm gonna have an allergic reaction right now

1366
01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:07,130
So just to make this meeting

1367
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:11,590
In my car I have been real. Are you not I have been a drill, too?

1368
01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:16,750
You start slow enough. I'm just gonna shoot you in

1369
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:20,650
Okay, are we good?

1370
01:22:24,110 --> 01:22:24,590
I

1371
01:22:24,590 --> 01:22:29,370
work meeting. I'll second it. I'll serve it.