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Good morning. It's 9 a.m. It is September 12, 2023. I call this Commissioner's Court to order. Commissioner

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Stacey is going to lead us into invocation and Commissioner Bailey is going to lead us in our pledges to the flags. All right.

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All your heads. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for all of your many blessings, for everything that we have, everything that we cherish, and we know that it all comes from you.

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So we thank you for the blessing of this great county, the great people that we have here,

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the passion going into the budget and everything that we're here to discuss.

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Just be with us, grant us our wisdom, be with our first responders, our military men

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and women here and abroad.

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And again, we just come and thank you for everything that you've done for us and just be with us

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through this meeting.

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And she's this thing we pray.

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Amen.

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All right.

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Thank you, commissioners.

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That leads us to agenda item number one, public forum.

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I believe we have four people signed up to speak just because you didn't sign up doesn't mean you can't speak

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But it does mean the four get to go first. So if you want to speak be thinking about it

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Number one on the list is mr. Bob Wacker so

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normally Bob you watch the meetings

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And you know I let people go just as as long as they want to we have a

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Gender so big it hurt my back carrying it in here

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So I'm gonna be a stickler on the three-minute rule today

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Thank you so much. One comment. Move the camera from way up on the ceiling because all I see are the tops of your heads on these video meetings. Anyway, your IT guy. Thank you for your time and attention.

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I had a couple slides, but I won't bother putting them up. You could look at revenue and I revenues is good. I guess it's anybody. You guys do a great job on that.

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I looked at expenses, and yeah, normally the expenses are, and I prayed on JL costs, 19%,

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some of these expenses are justified because things are expanding, more criminals, more

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crimes, et cetera, et cetera.

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The bottom line was, and this is the big topic, and people have asked me to look at this

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topic, is the addition of the people, the general counsel, and the public information's

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officer.

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I guess my question, and that's 215 when you add all the other costs, and that's a lot

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of money.

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What are they going to do that they're not being done now?

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How much public relations do we do now?

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How much do we need?

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You know, I don't see any.

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I was, I found it next door here for the city, for City Rockwell.

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And so there's an opportunity there for you to do it, but I haven't seen a contract, a

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justification.

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What is jobs going to be?

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What is deliverable to me, et cetera, et cetera?

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Just like the road, the consultant for the highways and stuff.

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So it's it's kind of so open-ended and I think with just a 3% growth in the county

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Projected for the last couple years and next few years. I'm not sure we need that

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General counsel

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Gosh, I heard somebody say well every department's got a council

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But I really couldn't find it but I did find another item on the agenda on the budget. It's a 100 400 100

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Legal services 100,000 dollars

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I didn't know what that was.

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We already got $100,000 set aside for legal services.

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It was $400,409.

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And so my question is, is this the right time to do some of this stuff?

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And if it's in support of, and I commend what you're trying to do, maybe,

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looking at trying to develop codes and stuff for the county,

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to direct the county to where they should be going and what they should be doing,

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interlocal agreements and all that type of stuff.

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If you need a lawyer for that, great, but hire him at the time.

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but this seems a little bit exorbitant, $253,000 for these two people. Fire Marshal, again, my son is a son-in-law

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as a deputy chief in Mesquite. They've got the greatest Fire Marshal in the world. She's recommended by

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everybody. But they have a Fire Department and they provide Fire Marshal service to other counties and

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communities and stuff. So I'm not sure we need a Fire Marshal if we don't have a Fire Department.

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I think those are my comments. Thank you.

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Thank you, Bob.

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Okay, Michael Olscher is next on the list to speak.

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Michael, you've been here before and my pronouncing your last name correct is at Olscher.

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All right. Thank you, sir.

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Good morning, everybody. Thanks for letting me.

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This one, yes.

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Michael Olscher, I live at 14893 South FM 548 Rockwall, Texas.

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and I'm here to talk about the new building that's coming up next to my complex, next to my home.

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And this is the late point project and specifically about the on-site sewer facility.

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I looked at what the county had as far as the review of that and to me it was very lacking.

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It didn't really explain what these items were covering to me.

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They're trying to get a minimum requirement by the county so they can make a size 13 project fit into a size 10 site.

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There's no clear number of office employees or the rental spaces employees.

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There's no listing for the green strap, there's no calculations for food, seats based on the seats or the water usage or the water, the condensation from the freezer cooler, air conditioning, all their stuff feeds into the onsite sewer system.

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There are no public restaurants for this 12,000 square foot complex and a good portion of

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that complex is the gas station and most of us when we go to a gas station there are facilities

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that we use but this is specifically stating in the application to this county that there

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will be no public facilities, which is to me, kind of bizarre, but that's just me.

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And then the other item, it's pertaining to the same complex, is they have security system

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lights out there. And once these, these are in the back on the sides and once those

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veggers are fired up, I can walk across my two and a half acres of homestead without any

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flashlight in the dead of night. I can open up windows in my house and raise the blinds.

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I don't need to turn lights on the inside of my house. So these are the items that I'm looking

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for the county to address.

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I have recommendations for improvements of the design, but I'm sure you

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You guys are sure that's it for right now.

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Thank you, sir.

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All right, Penelope Chapman.

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That's perfectly fine with me.

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John White.

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If it's OK with John.

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Good

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morning, and thank you for taking time for him to hear me.

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We're talking about agenda item number nine,

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the ARPA funds for the, I'm sorry, what now?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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This is John and John White, 1929 South Lakeshore Drive Rockwall, Texas, 7508, 7, etc., etc.

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Back to item number nine.

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I wrote to you and you all have received an email from me.

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I'm trying to discourage you from using ARPA funds to build a building designed by Barack who's saying Obama.

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What I'm suggesting instead is that we design and build a building that meets the needs of our county administrators

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and elected officials that with a flexibility if we want to add a second

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floor or a third floor or a tenth floor we can do it and I will and with the

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money that's in our pocket. We don't have to even go out for a bond election to

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do this. We can do it. Now we could have already been turning dirt in us months

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ago if we had been using conventional common sense and whatnot but the

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ARPA fund sounds so attractive but the reality it comes with a huge huge

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looks on it. I have been engaged in federal contracting since 1971. I know what they

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do and I know how they work and I don't give a flip what the regulations say Frank, you

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know what the facts are? If some bureaucrat says you did that wrong, you have violated the

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contract, you have no appeal. They are the final arbiter and you're stuck with it and

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they can claw it back and you say, well, that's not going to happen. Yes, it does happen.

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I was a paid consultant to the city of Dallas when they were doing their ARPA funds, okay?

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And they had a great committee of knowledgeable people, but some guy that came in and overrode

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the thing. And so I submitted in writing, take my name off of everything. I didn't want

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my name anywhere on this. I'm not going to accept any money from it. They even try to get

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me to give him a tax number and everything, I wouldn't give it to him. I said no. I walked

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away from it because I understand what can happen. I could be tried for a crime for the

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consulting, even though I'm doing the right and proper thing, the legal things. It's here

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relevant. I know how the federal government works. Let's use our money, just like we did

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with this courthouse, why me? Arpa dollars that we use on that. How about our jail, so

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for. We want those raw buildings designed to fit meat. Our needs, not the needs of some

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bureaucrat in Washington, D.C., and I thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you, John. All right, Penelope. It's back to you.

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Thanks for listening to us, but once again, I am here to address the subject of the Commissioner's

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Court funding a general council position. During your campaigns, each and every one of you

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You described yourselves as conservatives and wanted to address growth of government.

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By adding this position, you are growing government for the benefit of only five, not

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for the benefit of the county.

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This leaves us with the impression that you want control or influence for your benefit

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only from this legal position.

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If you want to address a short-term litigation need or do not want to overburden the DA's

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office, that might be understandable, but it's still wrong.

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To take this action for the benefit of yourselves only and may not even be legal, please consider

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the following three suggestions, so that you're physically responsible, and it avoids

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a 300% increase in your Commissioner Court budget,

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one, which are proposed $120,000 into

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to the DA's budget for additional staff work

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can benefit all county residents.

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Or two, let a contract for this position

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with an expiration date, number of billable hours

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or dollar amount so that the taxpayers

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do not have to fund this position in the future.

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As you have all stated in different venues,

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once you add a position, it is almost impossible

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to terminate that position.

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This position should be administered

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through the DA's office.

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This avoids the citizens funding another $12,000 for dues and subscriptions,

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which I believe are available already through the DA staff.

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Your proposed proposal forces the citizens to pay twice for some of the same services.

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Or move funds from your budgets to collectively fund this new office and staff.

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I believe that the taxpayers would support a growth in government

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that if it is for clerks and administrative positions that benefits all county residents

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but not benefits just elected officials.

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Lastly, to increase in this budget, you have increased the salary of the health coordinator

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chief assistant position.

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I do not understand why this body would agree to fund an increase in a position for someone

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who has yet to be certified or trained for that position.

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This sets a bad president for the future.

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I could understand putting the funds into the budget, but they should not be authorized

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or paid until the employee has completed their training and certification.

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And thank you.

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Lastly, I had to look a long time and had to get the answer from the auditor.

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But thank you for funding the dump truck, even though it wasn't listed as a dump truck.

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I believe it will make a difference for all the citizens.

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Thank you, Penelope.

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Is there anybody else that would like to address the court on any county matters?

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Anyone?

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Okay.

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Seeing no one that brings us to agenda item number two, discuss and act on approving a one-year

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resolution with Mills-On-Will Senior Services and an agreement to continue providing home-delivered

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mail services for homebound persons in the county who are elderly and or have a disability

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effective October 1, 2023 in the amount of $40,000 in all related issues.

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I'm going to kick this straight over to Lisa.

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Thanks, sir.

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This is the funding that the court set aside for meals on wheels by authorizing the grant.

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And the resolution and the agreement that facilitates the meals on wheels to further go after

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other grant funding for the monies that you submit to Margie. Sorry, Margie's here, if

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you want to talk any about meals on wheels and what they're doing for the community, but

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other than that, we have done this in the past. It works as a good community organization

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that works well with Rockwell County. Does anybody have any questions for Margie or yeah

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come on

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absolutely.

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Much of your continued support and this resolution is so important for our

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county. Last year the Texas Department of Agriculture awarded Meals on Wheels because of that signature

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on the resolution $40,000.

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And this funding can also be used for individuals under the age of 60 that are disabled.

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So we are serving some disabled citizens that are like 30, 40 years of age.

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So thank you so much.

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We have already served over 700 seniors this year and 250 care givers.

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So thanks so much, we really appreciate your support.

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Marty, want to take 30 seconds and

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give us a little commercial on your building fund.

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Yes, we are so excited.

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We are at 60% secured funding.

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And we are writing grants every day and we're going to be meeting with some foundations

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throughout Texas and so we will definitely give you an update.

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We are meeting with the architect again on Friday to finalize the needs assessment and

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we are hoping that if we are awarded these grants that we're applying to, that we are going

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be able to turn dirt in April or May. So good job. Thank you so much. And I want to recognize

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Margie and her staff. They do such a great job. What you do. And you have a small staff

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and you accomplish so much. So who does to you for your leadership and to the great staff you have?

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Yes well done. Thanks. I make a motion. We approve that when your resolution with

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Mill's unwield senior services.

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I'll second that motion.

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I'm motioned by Commissioner Stacey,

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second by Commissioner Macklic.

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Any further questions or comments?

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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It passes unanimously.

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Brings us to agenda item number three.

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Discuss and act on an update regarding soil conservation lakes,

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rock wall lake, rainbow lake, and loftland lake.

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Can all related issues?

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Commissioner Bailey and Mr. Owen Ken Trill

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is working his way to the microphone.

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Yes sir, thank you.

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Or if it could kind of give you a little bit of an highlight,

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can we start with the,

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some of the meetings that we've had previously

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about the rehab of the two legs,

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the shock wall and rainbows.

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Okay.

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And tell us in that if there is anything that

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the NRCS needs from us or your organization needs from us please I want to

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take notes today and get those down. Mr. Cantrell before you do that tell us who you

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are and who you represent here today. I'm Owen Cantrell I'm a district

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technician with the Coffman Van Zantz all the water conservation district. Thank

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you and we have had several meetings on both of these lakes over the

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years going on years now.

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I'll start off with Rockwall Lake. That's one it has a

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has a lot of problems. It has a lot of homes over there that get in

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and dated with water when this lake reaches spillway level and it has done that

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several times over the past years. And it has been designed for a state upgrade. And that

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is we were waiting for state funding. We were hoping to get that this year. Four years ago,

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there was a big initiative started on doing repairs and upgrades to all these sites across the

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state and legislature appropriated $150 million for that and that went a

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long way. We got a lot of work done over the third state. Well then the

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session after that they didn't appropriate but 50 million dollars. This last

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session they we asked for another 150 million. We got 25 million out of all the

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surplus that they had, we got 25 million of it. So Rockwall Lake will not be funded in this session.

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We will have to wait for another legislative session and I suggest between now and then that

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y'all get with your state reps, state senators and get the word out is what we need. There are 28

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sites in Rockwall County and all but just a few of them have been classified

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now as high hazard sites and that has to do with downstream development below

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them. If this downworked to breach what would happen to downstream and when

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there's possibility of loss of life that's what brings it brings them up to

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High Hazard Sandwich. Most of these sites were built back in the early 1950s, a few of

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them in the 60s, and we have a couple of them that were built in the 70s, but most of

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these older ones, well, they evolved for past 50-year design lifespan. That was the

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original lifespan only when they were designed to last 50 years. Well, we're approaching

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70 years on a lot of them. They still function as they were designed, but they do need. It's just like.

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Just like us older people, we need. We need more money to keep us going.

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He wants to use it. I was looking at the court has no official comment, Mr. Cantrell.

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But that's kind of the facts on this. But Rockwall Lake has been designed and it is ready to

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go when the money is there.

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They have,

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I'm gonna say just redone the policies

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or these. Now there is no output from the county other than being the

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contracting officer in writing the contracts and administering the contracts.

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There's no portion before there was a portion that the county had to pay a

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a portion of the cost of these that has been taken away, the state's take is picked up all that part of that's one good thing about it.

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The estimated cost on Rockwall last year, it was a little over $12 million.

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They will have to do a concrete spillway. There's no room to expand the earth and spillway.

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They will have to put a concrete spillway in the middle of the dam and that's what drives

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a price up.

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Normally they could do one if they were going to do it, earth and spillway expansion.

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They could do it for around 5 million.

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When you add that concrete spillway in the middle, that drives the cost up tremendously.

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We'll pick it all up.

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Actually, the only cost to the county would be the cost to administer the contract and

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And they will get administration fee back for that to pay for that.

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Okay.

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And then rainbow real fast.

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Rainbow, not real fast, but in y'all we sell them, get to see you.

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So in your folder, there is an application or federal rehab.

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We did this in 2015, we've seen an application for this.

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And we have been in contact with NRCS, the Natural Resources Conservation Service, which is a branch of the USDA.

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We've been in contact with them, and also with the State Agency, and they both say that this is probably our best route to get funding for this is through the Federal Rehab Program.

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So there is, y'all all have application there and I have another one here, if y'all do vote to sign this, there are six of them that I will need to be signed.

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You keep one, the district keep one and then I have sent four of them to different agencies throughout the state and feds.

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And so what is Rockwell County delinquent in the application process?

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Yes.

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Well, the only thing that we'd need in the application process would be to be sure that

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the EAP, the merchant action plan is up to date on this site.

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And also, we would need the assurance letter from Attorney's opinion on the validity of

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the easements.

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And Mr. Bailey, I gave him a copy of those easements earlier.

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He has those in hand.

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the

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attorney opinion is a must that we have to come up they just won't make

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sure that these months that we do have are valid and that we do have a

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sufficient easement to cover all the area is it is it is your opinion to it

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is our yes that we do have that okay but they do they require an attorney's

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opinion. Correct. Yeah. Okay. They don't like our word for it.

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Okay. I have a couple quick questions.

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More of a high level. You know you guys drilled right in and my instinct is to pull back. So

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you told me you've answered one of my questions typical life cycles 50 years and we're well beyond

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50 years. So are we talking about in specifically rainbow lake? Are we talking

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about rebuilding the dam? Are we talking about dredging it? There were not

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beginning dredging of the lake itself. The dam will be rebuilt. Okay. In most

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cases they raise the dam from one to three feet higher. They expand the spillway.

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the object of a spillway width to accommodate the total maximum value precipitation.

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Got it.

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Which is now considered basically your annual rainfall in a 24-hour period.

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Got it.

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So more impervious cover upstream would cause more water to come downstream and what's got

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What this, I understood you correctly, an urgent matter is the development that now sits

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what used to be a field now development that sits down south of these.

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Most of the down, where all of the downstream is in heat, the city of heat, and there's,

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of course, there's a golf course down there and lots of homes.

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There has been a breach analysis that was done on this lake back in, I believe it was 15 or 16, they did a breach analysis on it, and of course there's been more development, a lot more development even taking place since then.

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So a new, that would be part of the process of design.

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and they will do a new breach analysis on that site.

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It'll be all part of that.

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And the cost of doing the design and all that

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is all paid for through the federal government.

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There's no this application.

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There's no obligation to the county.

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You're not tied to anything other than just signing it.

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Just let us have the money, please,

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is what we're signing.

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I mean, I'm gonna tell you that this is not a fast process.

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We're going through one of these in Kauffman County that has been ongoing since 2016.

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And we are fixing the right to contract on it now.

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That is lightning speed for the federal government.

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It has been a nightmare for me, but

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when you put the federal dollar into it, there's-

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uh... uh... understood for people that have worked outside of government

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that that's a major frustration of white white can't we just do it

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the one on rock wall like that is all state money

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we did that from the start

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to finish the design we did that less than two years

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but when you put federal dollar in it

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doubles or quadruples that

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got it you need the court to sign that application today or are you leaving that

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with us to get prepared to sign it. I can do it either way I would like to say I've got six

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copies and I need all six of them signed and the county can keep one but I need five of them back.

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But you said that we need the attorneys opinion on it. Not on this application. Okay. Okay. That would be on the

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There's no big, big hurry on that.

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We've been through this before on Wallace Lake.

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Yeah, and that was going to be my question.

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So the status of these three applications,

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do we have all three up today?

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Just the one for Rainbow Lake.

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Just Rainbow Lake.

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Yeah.

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So Laughlin appears to be state money, if I'm reading it correctly. The only thing that you're going to ask for Laughlin today is to fix the riser that's in that ticker lake for approximately $15,000. So there is no state or federal money. It's just local money there. But what we do need though, Craig, is I know you're already and researching that that

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our outside council.

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Absolutely.

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Last time we fell into sort of a difficult hole with the attorney's opinion letter and

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whether or not the easements had been granted and that turned out to be a much bigger project

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than we ever assumed.

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So is it too soon for us to begin that opinion process?

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I would start it is because it's that's not an overnight process. It is not go ahead and get that done

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And that's just that's just one of the hoops that we'll we'll already have

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Because there will be more coming if this application gets approved by the feds

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There'll be a lot more coming others than this, but this is just one of them if we can get that done

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would be great. I'm wondering how much time I mean it would be optimal if we could get an

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attorneys letter on all 30 lakes in Rockwell County. How quickly would we need this for

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Rainbow Lake? There's no there's not a urgent. Okay. All right. No, there's not. We get it done

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in the next year would be fine and we have some assurance there is some

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budgeted money that I'm told of today that could help in these costs but we

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also you know if we need to look for some state monies then they've agreed

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to fund us. There is there is stake money available for Rockwall Lake, but since this application

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has not been accepted or approved yet, I don't know that there is money for Rainbow

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at this point. Okay. Okay. I would just prefer that the court take action to assign this

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application so that so that we can enter it into your minutes that that's what

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your your act that your procedures will follow is that okay does it need to be

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is there a time frame on when we sign this application sooner we sign it

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the sooner it will go in and start the process but no it doesn't it does not

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have to be signed today okay not my only reason for not signing is we want to

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produce a complete application and then forward that and so that we know that

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everything is done and we get assurance from NRCS that everything looks

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right and this is going to be our application to the federal government.

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So the Tatch and the EAP and all this other to it yeah that would be that would be

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great to that just to add but my mic is another check mark on their list yeah so what what I'm

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going to suggest we do is is like Commissioner Bailey insinuated fill out the application let's bring

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it to the next court yes sir once it's complete then we'll vote on signing it because like like you I

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have a little little trouble signing a blank application but there this is laying in front of all do we

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Y'all sign this or is it just you?

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That's me, the judge, that's why I thought, okay.

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Yeah, of course, I would want to.

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I was wondering.

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Yeah, I would want the courts.

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The top you have the courts.

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Yeah, we can have the courts.

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So there's the matter of the $15,000 to increase the,

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yeah, we're fixing to go to that one.

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Yeah, okay, I didn't mean to jump ahead.

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Yeah.

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I knew we were trying to spend some money today.

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So that's kind of given us that other question.

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Oh, yes, sir.

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And to the extent that you need my consent, you don't, but I would agree with with putting this off until a future court date,

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but I would also plant the seed that we may want to discuss at that time hiring our land attorney, rehiring our land attorney to obtain that written legal opinion that they require as part of the contract.

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Wonderful.

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Thank you.

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And so now, let's talk about Loughlin Lake.

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Loughlin Lake, first four collateral, six A.

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This is located on FM 549, just east of 205.

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We've had major, major problems with this lake over the past years.

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Mainly it's been beaver problems.

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beaver save just me up over there I can clean this thing off y'all have some

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pictures in there some before and after pictures and those were taking this

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spring the county helped us the road and bridge went down there and with a

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next invader and cleaned it off for us cleaned the mud off of it well I had it

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cleaned off a month before that and they built it back that quit they I mean

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and there's no way to get rid of the beavers.

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Beavers, you can get rid of them and they're right back.

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There's no, the only thing we have come up with

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is to eliminate their building materials.

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What we were suggesting is we're gonna go in there

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and around the one that's cleaned off,

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where you can see that riser,

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We're going to pour a concrete slab around that.

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This riser is not the typical riser that most of the other sites have.

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This one just has a pipe that sticks out of the ground and water flows into it.

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What we came up with, and I've talked to the NRCS engineers about this and they kind

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of all agree with us, we're going to pour concrete slab around that inlet level with the

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top of it and then we're going to put rip wrap rock out around that to eliminate the beavers

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being able to just grab the mud and pile it right there. We don't think that they will cross

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over that rock in the concrete with the materials. Normally what they do is just grab that mud and push

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it like this up and they just keep pushing until you see what they did to it. We have a couple

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of bids for the concrete in the rock work. One was $15,000 to $15,000. The other was $15,700.

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We also have a bid to rebuild the new debris guard to go over it at $2,500.

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So Mr. Cantrell, these bids look like they were sent to you, and I'm not familiar with

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the people have we vetted on have we used them before is this I have not we have used

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the district has used this Mason right we use them several years ago to replace a couple

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of tail section pipes on some dams the this other one is KB we have not used them there's

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one of our directors was for me or with him and he said that they do excellent work also.

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I think that either one of them would be capable of doing the job

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and they have the the equipment and the manpower to do it with.

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And it looks like we have a third bed for some welding.

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Yeah that's for to build a new debris guard.

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It's just a metal cage that goes over to keep debris from getting in, stopping the

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pipe up.

444
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The one that's there now will not suffice to do what we need for it to do, but we're

445
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,700
going to build a new one, and it will be, we're going to have it, it would be hot-dipped

446
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:59,520
galvanized also so it's a last or a long time and that's included in this cost of 1,500 so there's

447
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:07,880
minimal difference between the two beds that came in so would you have a recommendation our board

448
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:18,880
recommended using the KB outdoor services beyond that they are not tied to really either one of them

449
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,700
I'd be up to your discretion if you wanted to decide on which one you wanted.

450
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:27,840
Now, I understand the funding for this.

451
00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:35,280
We had talked about, I know there's a set number of dollars that is set aside for each

452
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,760
side in the county.

453
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:45,700
There's 28 sites in Rockwell County and from I understand over $2,500 that aside for each

454
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:45,980
site.

455
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,020
I

456
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:54,700
talked to Mr. Baylor about this, and we first talked about, well, it might be

457
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,960
could pull some money from these other sites that we don't really use that much

458
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,560
money on other than just basically mowing them. It's about all we dig to them. Pull

459
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:10,260
that money in, but now he's telling me that we can't do that. Is that true or not?

460
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,100
Don't tell her. Yeah, you weren't supposed to divulge the game plan there, Mr.

461
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:23,580
I can't trail that was up, but you know, I'm sure that there could be only X

462
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:36,620
number of dollars allocated per lake in there, but there is money set aside in this particular budget.

463
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:45,140
We have unspent, not only next year, correct me if I'm wrong, we've allocated 190,000 for 2024,

464
00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:53,420
24 but we have on spent money as we sit here under soil conservation that we could use and vote on.

465
00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:04,940
I think 24 we have a 200,000 and 23 we have the 190 and yes it's in road bridge funds so there are funds available for you.

466
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:18,320
and but now as to the completion of the job would probably be in 2024 so it's

467
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,100
not something that we could you know cut your check on right now. We would like

468
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:30,880
to get this done as soon as possible before the rainy season comes we have it

469
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Currently I have the lake drained all but just a little small hole of water in it

470
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,720
We had set up a siphon pipe on it to rain it down because we couldn't get it to drain through the normal

471
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:50,560
Rainage so we've got it down right now and it's dry and we'd like to try to get it done before it

472
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,760
Why couldn't we why couldn't we go ahead and do it?

473
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:59,000
I mean if we we got the money and lakes drained and the beavers are yeah beavers are quiet right

474
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,860
The papers are quiet.

475
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:06,000
So if you do it as long as it's down before September 30th,

476
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160
we'd apply it to FY 23.

477
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:14,260
They can't get the work done judge before the end of our calendar.

478
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,300
I don't know if we could or not be honest.

479
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,400
I'd have to talk about that.

480
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,920
But we can, if you could produce a contract with these people

481
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:35,760
Council to our legal council and get that drawn up for Rockwell County to enter into.

482
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:48,880
Let me ask for a question, would it be easier for the district to pay this contractor and

483
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:56,000
And then the district bill, the county, would that be easier than going?

484
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,120
I would still apply it to whatever year you finish the work in.

485
00:43:00,460 --> 00:43:02,500
So if you can finish the work on-

486
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:07,280
If I could say to you an invoice before September 30th or by the set of September 30th-

487
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,940
As long as the work-

488
00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:11,540
With the work being done, then that would be ideal.

489
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:15,160
That way we've got the money in this budget and we could spend it.

490
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,180
Let me get with- we can do that.

491
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:22,200
Isn't that court date 926 for us to actually do the approval of the expenditures?

492
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:29,920
Can't we if if we don't spend it? It's earmarked for a certain thing. I mean it it's there next year

493
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,660
Well back in the conservation for next year. No, it stays there. We've got it budgeted

494
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:40,260
So even if we don't get it this year, the money's there next year

495
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:46,300
Yeah, we're we're not gonna not pay you

496
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:48,580
coming out of the $24 budget.

497
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:55,580
I will, you have a preference on one of these contractors.

498
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,840
I would, my personal opinion, I would follow your recommendation.

499
00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:10,680
So we would then want to approve something in the neighborhood of $17,915.

500
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,320
$17,950.

501
00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:23,060
Let's call it at least $18,000, I would be good with that.

502
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:41,980
So it would be my motion then to allow the sole conservation folks to enter into a contract

503
00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:54,560
with KB Outdoor Services for the vintage and wise welding and the wise

504
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,620
welding.

505
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980
$2,500 bid that we would approve spending up to $18,000. I'll get with the contractor. $18,000. Let's just do $18.5. Let's have an auction. Let's do $19. I'm going to stop the auction and say we're sold at $18.5. Will that be included in your motion? Okay. What? My motion is $18,000.

506
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,580
Yeah, we would authorize the expenses of

507
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:36,020
$18,500

508
00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:43,440
for the work to be done on Laughlin Lake 6A

509
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:50,880
Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey second by Commissioner Macklick. Are there any further questions or comments?

510
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:58,200
We do want this to come out of our soil conservation line item is where the funding is coming from just to clarify

511
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:08,480
I didn't. I just wanted to make sure that I understand things correctly that we're authorizing the so-called conservation district to contract.

512
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Correct. We're going to be reimbursing upon receiving an invoice.

513
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:22,900
So, I normally endorse quarterly anyway for the work that we do, but I can do it especially indoors.

514
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Thank you.

515
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:37,940
And then we will bring back to the court on the September 26 agenda, action to appropriate

516
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,880
the rainbow lake application to the federal government.

517
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:47,360
Got it.

518
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,640
All right, so on the table. We have a motion by Commissioner Bailey. We have a second by Commissioner Macklick all those in favor say hi

519
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Hi, any opposed it passes unanimously. Thank you, Mr. Cantrell

520
00:47:09,310 --> 00:47:15,810
Springs is to agenda item number four discuss and act on approving the ordinance regulating junkyards an automotive wrecking and salvage

521
00:47:15,810 --> 00:47:20,250
charge located in the unincorporated areas of Rockwell County and all related issues, Commissioner Stacey.

522
00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:25,970
All right. This is time number three that this has been before us. We proposed it. We had a public hearing.

523
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:32,170
And now here we are after the public hearing to vote on it. The only thing that I would add,

524
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:37,750
I don't know if anyone has any questions. It's updating our ordinances to new state law.

525
00:47:38,170 --> 00:47:42,910
But I was going to ask Desiree on the motion. We wanted to go ahead and make a motion that we

526
00:47:42,910 --> 00:47:48,250
He got rid of the old ones just so it's completely clear in the record that it's a replacement.

527
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:51,190
This isn't in addition to the new junkyards.

528
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:56,470
I was going to ask you exactly how I was just going to make a motion that we approved this

529
00:47:56,470 --> 00:48:02,170
in sight that it replaces all other junkyard ordinances.

530
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:04,210
I didn't know exactly how.

531
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:09,910
Yeah, that works just something along the lines of after you make the motion for this ordinance to be approved,

532
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:16,090
that the court also recognizes that it supersedes all previous orders or ordinances addressing

533
00:48:16,090 --> 00:48:17,290
scrap yard and salvage yards.

534
00:48:17,630 --> 00:48:22,370
Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead and make a motion that we approve this ordinance and

535
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:28,970
that if approved it would replace all ordinances that pertain to junk yards, automotive, wrecking

536
00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:30,410
and salvage yards in the county.

537
00:48:30,930 --> 00:48:34,710
Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Severe, any further comments?

538
00:48:35,410 --> 00:48:36,550
All those in favor say aye.

539
00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:37,010
Aye.

540
00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:46,050
Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Thank you for the work on that. This brings us to Agenda Item number five. Discuss an act on naming

541
00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:55,390
Royal County Sesquic Quint Centennial Plaza. I'll never say that again and all related issues, Commissioner Stacey.

542
00:48:55,750 --> 00:49:03,030
So I'm going to give a real brief thing of what we're trying to do and then I'm going to go ahead and pull the Agenda Item for a future agenda.

543
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:08,290
And we are looking at burying a time capsule, that is that we mean the historic commission,

544
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:13,430
burying a time capsule for our 150 year anniversary of Rockwell County.

545
00:49:13,810 --> 00:49:19,750
We want to bury it in this plaza at the courthouse, and so we thought it might be a nice idea

546
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:21,670
to name it so no one forgot what we did.

547
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:27,870
And you know, in 50, 60 years they go, what is this box, you know?

548
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:39,570
But after talking to Commissioner Severe, I want to pull this item and come up with an actual policy on how we name things in the county before this court starts naming things in the county.

549
00:49:40,090 --> 00:49:46,710
So with that, I just wanted to give a brief. It will probably come back fairly quickly. So I'm going to go ahead and pull this item with that thought.

550
00:49:46,850 --> 00:49:53,370
But the idea is that we do want to bury a time capsule before the end of the year in there. The historic commission is working on it very diligently.

551
00:49:54,070 --> 00:50:00,250
There is funding in their budget for it, so it's all something that's going forward and it will be done by the end of the year.

552
00:50:00,610 --> 00:50:03,870
We just thought naming it after the 150-year anniversary would work out nice.

553
00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:09,070
This name that I cannot pronounce either was come up by Todd Williams, so you can blame him for that.

554
00:50:09,250 --> 00:50:11,950
I'm going to promote a three-syllable maximum.

555
00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:18,890
So with that, I'll go ahead and pull that and just know that that's the reason this was here.

556
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:22,770
and that we're going to come up with a policy on how we name and moralize things into the future,

557
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:25,010
and you'll see this again in the near future.

558
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:27,450
Wonderful. Thank you very much.

559
00:50:27,610 --> 00:50:29,230
That takes us to agenda item number six.

560
00:50:29,350 --> 00:50:33,410
Discussing act on updates and progress related to the courthouse courtroom additions,

561
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:36,410
third floor project, and all related issues, commissioner severe.

562
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:40,090
I was just going to ask, did we get anything back from HDR?

563
00:50:40,850 --> 00:50:47,010
I do not have anything from HDR other than if you look at items number 25 on today's agenda,

564
00:50:47,010 --> 00:50:56,430
There's a contract for you to that's for upstairs. Right. We haven't got anything other than that. I know the top of graphical agreement. We've

565
00:50:57,010 --> 00:50:59,210
signed or we signed in today for the

566
00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:01,190
Park Hill to be doing

567
00:51:01,850 --> 00:51:07,530
No, wait, no, that's a different project. It's a different thing. We've got a lot of project. I look over at Michael

568
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:15,930
And I was like, wait, wrong guy. That's totally different. Yeah, nothing nothing. Sorry. Okay. All right. Well, let's we'll just wait. Oh, here comes Barry

569
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:35,160
Thank you. They'll have to wait till a little further in the agenda for

570
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,760
funding the

571
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,740
project completely.

572
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,880
I understood, yeah, until we finalize the budget and it's voted

573
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,300
on in the inkstry. The jury rooms, we do have them working

574
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:59,840
on that about the jury rooms in the the acoustical that was they're doing a

575
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,440
study on that for the court.

576
00:52:06,070 --> 00:52:09,550
Wonderful. Thank you, Barry. All right, so that's all

577
00:52:09,550 --> 00:52:13,670
we got. We'll move on to agenda item number seven. Discussing act on turning off

578
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:19,170
non-essential lights to the county courthouse from September 6th, 2023, between

579
00:52:19,170 --> 00:52:28,030
to 6 a.m. until the end of the migration period of October 29th, 2023 and all related issues commissioner severe.

580
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:38,010
Yes, I put this back on the agenda we had done this already once this year passed on the information that we had that I had had before.

581
00:52:39,250 --> 00:52:45,370
Just bringing it back to court to find out if this is something that we want to do for the short time period is to.

582
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:52,330
I'm in favor of it but can we catch it before it starts and we keep coming in the middle but I mean it's

583
00:52:52,330 --> 00:52:57,130
You can only catch it in time when they put in to do it. No, I know I'm with you

584
00:52:57,130 --> 00:53:01,450
But but yeah, no, I think this is a good idea. But anyways, I was just

585
00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:05,330
I went to bird wrecks don't want to bird wrecks quick question

586
00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:10,310
Is this for both this facility as well as the county on yellow jacket lane?

587
00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:18,030
Just show just show jacket. Okay. All right. Just yellow jacket. Yeah, they're I mean what would be the sense if we did it here

588
00:53:18,030 --> 00:53:23,850
But they don't do any of the lights downtown because the city is not involved in this. This is only a county project

589
00:53:23,850 --> 00:53:28,310
It was my next question. Is there been any other? No, no, they

590
00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:32,650
Disappear. Yeah, I'm not that I'm aware of that the lady has told me

591
00:53:33,310 --> 00:53:34,450
so that's why

592
00:53:35,170 --> 00:53:39,070
Before when we talked to Barry and I talked to the sheriff about it

593
00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:43,790
it seemed to be okay on the upper part of the lights and that we still have some

594
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:48,710
of the lights on on the bottom but we cannot do a total blackout because

595
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:53,630
nobody else agrees so we're just trying to do our part of that blackout in

596
00:53:53,630 --> 00:54:00,730
that bigger area higher area than anywhere else right so I was I mean so as far

597
00:54:00,730 --> 00:54:04,170
as the football stadium they won't be during games they will not be turning

598
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:07,810
their lights out and they will be sure can't very well play football and they

599
00:54:07,810 --> 00:54:11,310
leave those lights on and not only just for football they have soccer there and all kinds

600
00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:13,250
of other things so they stay on late at night too.

601
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:16,110
And this is the courthouse and does it include the library?

602
00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:17,290
The courthouse.

603
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:18,170
Just the courthouse.

604
00:54:18,510 --> 00:54:18,610
Okay.

605
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:20,550
Because of the rotunda.

606
00:54:21,370 --> 00:54:21,750
Mm-hmm.

607
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:23,590
Got it.

608
00:54:23,790 --> 00:54:26,810
Well, while it's not 100% coverage, any little bit helps.

609
00:54:27,110 --> 00:54:27,250
Right.

610
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:33,910
So, I would be in support of it and I would be surprised if the City of Heath isn't doing

611
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:34,350
something.

612
00:54:34,350 --> 00:54:39,510
And I know they're realized they can't become dark sky compliant.

613
00:54:40,090 --> 00:54:42,550
No one can, we're too close to Dallas.

614
00:54:42,930 --> 00:54:46,850
I mean, there's too much light pollution that comes from Dallas to get the readings you need,

615
00:54:46,850 --> 00:54:48,510
but every little bit helps.

616
00:54:49,690 --> 00:54:51,550
So I would be in support of this.

617
00:54:52,730 --> 00:55:00,390
So I'd like to make a motion that we turn off the non-essential lights at the County Courthouse from September 6th, 2023,

618
00:55:00,390 --> 00:55:08,550
between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. until the end of the migration period at October 29th, 2023.

619
00:55:09,350 --> 00:55:10,590
Got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

620
00:55:11,050 --> 00:55:11,430
I'll second.

621
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:12,970
Second by Commissioner Stacey.

622
00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:14,390
Any further questions or comments?

623
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:15,730
All those in favor say aye.

624
00:55:16,090 --> 00:55:16,290
Aye.

625
00:55:16,690 --> 00:55:17,150
Any opposed?

626
00:55:17,490 --> 00:55:17,670
Aye.

627
00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:21,530
Got four in support, one in opposition.

628
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:22,890
All right.

629
00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:25,150
That brings us to agenda item number eight.

630
00:55:25,310 --> 00:55:26,570
Discussing act on a public hearing.

631
00:55:26,570 --> 00:55:29,790
Notice zoning request to be held by the City of McClendon Chisholm

632
00:55:29,790 --> 00:55:38,470
all related issues. Commissioners, this is something that landed on my desk and I found myself just

633
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:44,970
pulling it up and filling it out on behalf of the county and almost signing it and then realized I

634
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:51,450
don't own the county. I should probably bring it to the commissioners and see what our thoughts are.

635
00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:59,790
this is a zoning request the county owns some land on 205 that's within the

636
00:55:59,790 --> 00:56:07,410
notification zone and in your packet you will see you're looking at it right on

637
00:56:07,410 --> 00:56:13,230
Wallace Road track 21274 belongs to the county that's why we received notification

638
00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:20,970
the people across the street Wallace 11417 are wanting to put in

639
00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:33,230
some self-storage units and then break this up into some three acre plants. So it is

640
00:56:33,230 --> 00:56:42,170
compliant with McClendon Chisholm. However, the applicant is doing this via a PD, a planned

641
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:48,250
development, not doing it just a straight plant. So my thoughts where we just send this in

642
00:56:48,250 --> 00:56:55,830
and say we can do whatever you guys want, say we're neutral on it, we're in favor of it,

643
00:56:55,930 --> 00:57:02,490
we're opposed to it. My reason for wanting to send it in is I know the cities send these

644
00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:09,810
out and someone that said on the City Council for so long always baffled when you just don't

645
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:16,290
get them back. So whichever way the court wants to go on, I just want to get something back

646
00:57:16,290 --> 00:57:22,190
to McClendon Chisholm that says, yes, we got it. Here's our recommendation.

647
00:57:23,410 --> 00:57:27,870
I would be in favor of doing something neutral. It is their city. If you feel

648
00:57:27,870 --> 00:57:33,410
that it's necessary to turn it in, I do understand that mindset a little bit,

649
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:37,490
but it doesn't bother me if we don't. It doesn't bother me to send it in neutral.

650
00:57:38,790 --> 00:57:44,570
And Frank, I'm sorry. You said the county owns one of these. Yes, yes, yes. So if you look

651
00:57:44,570 --> 00:57:48,870
radio time radio that's that was where I was going what was our purpose of that

652
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:57,490
purchasing that you know teller league and remake of 2005 yep yeah nice nice

653
00:57:57,490 --> 00:58:04,890
little track a land there um so yeah I I would be okay just saying we're we're

654
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:09,950
neutral we received it we appreciate your sin and us notice and that would be

655
00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:18,010
certainly my opinion because when that really kind of teeter is on

656
00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:22,370
oversight by

657
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:29,190
government it can be it can be interpreted that way of the county and so local

658
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:38,070
control must be local control yes and so you know if they want to do that they

659
00:58:38,070 --> 00:58:47,150
can get it okay and everything let's reverse that when we wanted to put the radio tower

660
00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:55,650
where it sits now on that land after we bought it we got pushed back so and it was pushed back

661
00:58:55,650 --> 00:59:00,110
from the surrounding area which that's the way it's supposed to be the city and the residents there

662
00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:07,690
that's why I feel the same as you what kind of neutral here because we're not in we we're you run

663
00:59:07,690 --> 00:59:13,690
your own government. You objected it for us and you do it whatever way you want to see it here.

664
00:59:13,890 --> 00:59:19,030
I feel the same way you guys are. I don't key with. Yep so I'm going to go ahead and make a

665
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:26,450
motion that the court allow me to fill this out expressing a neutral opinion that we are neither

666
00:59:26,450 --> 00:59:30,370
in favor or opposed but appreciate being notified.

667
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:38,360
We go a little bit further though and apparently

668
00:59:42,460 --> 00:59:42,640
the

669
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:53,060
answers, no. All right, so what did you say? I will support your proceeding. Is that

670
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:58,340
a second to my motion? That would be a second. Okay, so we have my motion. We have a second

671
00:59:58,340 --> 00:59:59,980
by Commissioner Bailey. Any further comments?

672
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,460
Any comments? All those in favor say aye? Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. It brings us to agenda item number nine. Discuss and act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the Plan to County Annex Project and all related issues. Vents. I didn't, I see I cut out for efficiency sake. I didn't even say Lisa before I said Vents. I just said Vents. You have a number of people that you could point to. It just happened to me my day.

673
01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:34,860
Okay, Michael is here with the design builder, and he's going to present the current conceptual

674
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:35,260
plan.

675
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,980
This is to address what the court requested last time, and I will turn it over to Michael.

676
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Morning, Michael Howard with Park Hill.

677
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,620
Here to present to you the current iteration of our space programming plan.

678
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,060
I believe the last time we presented to the court, you gave us direction to proceed, but what

679
01:00:55,060 --> 01:01:00,940
what we were calling option three, which was a single story, 24,000 square foot structure.

680
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,320
And at that time, we had a space blocked out for shell space or expansion space.

681
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,780
We've received further direction from the Judge and Commissioner Stacey to look at reallocating

682
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:16,240
that space to allow for expanding the other program spaces.

683
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:22,420
So this new floor plan or space blocking plan removes the shell space that leads the square footage in the building.

684
01:01:22,420 --> 01:01:29,420
and what we've done is reallocated that space to allow for a little more room in the other departments and uses throughout the building.

685
01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:35,820
So essentially all the departments got a little bit more room.

686
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:46,320
We also expanded the records and storage area just to allow for your ability to have more flexibility with layout and expansion into the future for potential staffing growth.

687
01:01:49,180 --> 01:01:53,520
Site plan did not change. It's still a 24,000 square foot single story building.

688
01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:02,500
We did kind of modify the footprint slightly, but we still don't have concerns about any of the easements setbacks or fire lane requirements.

689
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:05,560
So no substantial changes to the site plan.

690
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:12,200
We did modify the exterior rendering because we have made the decision to proceed with a tilt wall construction.

691
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:20,400
And so that does change the nature of the envelope and the way that we'll be able to put materials on the exterior of the building.

692
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:28,760
So it doesn't substantially change the appearance, but it is slightly different due to the tilt wall nature.

693
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:34,510
And that's it. So happy to answer any questions about any of the changes.

694
01:02:36,570 --> 01:02:39,630
Actually, just real quickly, just so you're aware of next steps.

695
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:46,410
We feel like we're ready to proceed into the next phase of design, which is schematic design.

696
01:02:46,530 --> 01:02:49,890
We'll get to give you more detail on this specific room-by-room layout of the building.

697
01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:54,910
So in our mind, if we need direction from today that we're ready to stop space

698
01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:58,910
programming and move into schematic design, we can provide more detailed layouts.

699
01:03:00,410 --> 01:03:01,850
Can you go over real quick?

700
01:03:02,090 --> 01:03:06,150
And I realize you're probably not prepared dollar amount for this.

701
01:03:06,550 --> 01:03:08,950
Has we're looking at at least range of dollar amount?

702
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:12,650
Well, I'll stop in my head. Nothing's changed since the last time we spoke to you about option three,

703
01:03:12,730 --> 01:03:16,530
which I believe we said it would be somewhere between 19.5 to 19.9 million.

704
01:03:16,530 --> 01:03:25,910
Okay, but nothing has substantially changed about the square footage or the design that would impact any of the numbers we've previously presented to you.

705
01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:34,320
One of the things I would like to request if I could go on forward is at least put in our packet.

706
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:41,600
What you're seeing here at least give us a hard copy of this so that I can keep it and make my notes on it as we're talking if you don't mind.

707
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,920
And that would help me out as you're getting direction from the representatives of us at

708
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,160
least for the other members on the court, so we can have copies of everything.

709
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Thank you.

710
01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:54,430
Any questions?

711
01:03:55,650 --> 01:03:56,090
Comments?

712
01:03:56,570 --> 01:03:57,170
The tilt.

713
01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:58,850
Yeah, tell me one question.

714
01:03:58,990 --> 01:04:04,310
What was the difference between the tilt pricing and the traditional?

715
01:04:04,750 --> 01:04:04,970
Traditional.

716
01:04:04,970 --> 01:04:05,630
Traditional, yeah.

717
01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:06,210
Do you remember?

718
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:08,430
The cost savings is about a half million.

719
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:09,490
Half a million.

720
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:09,870
Okay.

721
01:04:12,350 --> 01:04:19,150
Yeah, and just so you know, Court, I've been involved in many construction projects.

722
01:04:19,150 --> 01:04:20,210
I'm not in construction.

723
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:26,090
I'm in commercial flooring, but set in many new construction meetings, been in a bunch

724
01:04:26,090 --> 01:04:27,070
of tilt wall buildings.

725
01:04:28,570 --> 01:04:31,550
Yeah, I have no issues with tilt wall construction.

726
01:04:31,550 --> 01:04:37,470
It saves a little money and typically increases how quick you can put a building up.

727
01:04:39,350 --> 01:04:44,850
So structurally, once it's built, there's no structural difference.

728
01:04:46,050 --> 01:04:48,730
And I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, but...

729
01:04:48,730 --> 01:04:50,230
You can share that, Mike.

730
01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:50,530
Yeah.

731
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,140
Yep, so any...

732
01:05:04,740 --> 01:05:06,480
I'm sorry, I didn't have my mic on.

733
01:05:06,980 --> 01:05:07,900
Move to approve that.

734
01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:16,100
Action as it relates to the American Rescue Plan money and the Plan County Annex project.

735
01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:27,940
So we've got a motion by Commissioner Severe that I believe is approving the schematic that we just saw in going to approve you to go forward from this point.

736
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,400
So we've got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

737
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,620
I'll second that motion.

738
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:35,380
Got a second by Commissioner Macklic. Any further questions or comments?

739
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:42,580
Can you point out on that other place, the other view where the entries are to the building?

740
01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:50,500
I just see the one down here, so would it be helpful to look at it on the site plan or this view?

741
01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:57,240
Would you have a lot of the plan in the center you'll see kind of a light yellowish green box that says entry.

742
01:05:57,620 --> 01:06:02,920
That would be the main entry which faces sort of south or toward the main courthouse.

743
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:10,860
There would be a secondary entry that is near the where we're showing the auditors which is on the plan right

744
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:16,240
which is actually technically kind of north but that would be a secondary

745
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,260
entrance that allow access to the multi-purpose room so we would expect that

746
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:22,800
multi-purpose room could have enough traffic that it would need a secondary

747
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,280
entrance especially when you hold elections in that room you're going to have

748
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:33,100
that that flow both from the both directions and additional what we would call

749
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:37,640
backdoor staff entrances on the other side that are really just for egress

750
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,820
What about points that staff only are going to need to enter your way for the store.

751
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,620
You have the overheads and all that all drawn in on the on the elections for the elections.

752
01:06:45,620 --> 01:06:47,600
They'll need it's in the drawing.

753
01:06:47,740 --> 01:06:50,000
If you see the the overhead door.

754
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,420
Yeah, if you go to the drawing, you'll see it right here.

755
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,240
So, uh, yeah, there you go.

756
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,380
I see there is.

757
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,440
It allows for an overhead door for box trucks for elections.

758
01:06:59,600 --> 01:06:59,960
Right.

759
01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:00,580
They're equipment.

760
01:07:00,660 --> 01:07:03,400
So, okay, it's remained and to be fair.

761
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:07,280
Also, the tax assessor's office will need box trucks to come in with license plates

762
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:16,120
So it's not just elections, but anyways, I just wanted to point that out, it's both of those departments will need that.

763
01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:21,180
All right, got a motion by Commissioner Severe, a second by Commissioner Mackleck?

764
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,060
Yes, sir Greg.

765
01:07:22,220 --> 01:07:25,940
Could I ask one question first, because we may need to amend our motion.

766
01:07:26,140 --> 01:07:34,580
Mr. Howard, will you need any formal written notice to proceed, or will it be sufficient for you to act on the minutes of the action they're taking today?

767
01:07:34,580 --> 01:07:34,660
Okay.

768
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:37,840
The motion is presented, as all we need to proceed.

769
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:38,600
Great.

770
01:07:38,780 --> 01:07:39,080
Thank you.

771
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:40,040
Okay.

772
01:07:40,780 --> 01:07:42,380
We've got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

773
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:43,560
Second by Commissioner Macklee.

774
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,400
Any further comments?

775
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,320
All those in favor say aye.

776
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:46,860
Aye.

777
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:47,580
Any opposed?

778
01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:48,920
Aye opposed.

779
01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:50,940
It passes 4 to 1.

780
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:52,340
Thank you.

781
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Brings us to agenda item number 10.

782
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,740
Discuss and act on approaching approving a local match fund's agreement.

783
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:09,140
Effective October 1, 2023 with the North Texas Behavioral Health Authority in the amount

784
01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:12,680
of $66,064 in all related issues.

785
01:08:12,940 --> 01:08:14,500
I'm going to send that over to you, Lisa.

786
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:21,040
Sir, this is a renewal for our agreement with NTBHA.

787
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,420
It's the same amount as it was last year, and the money is funded in FY 24.

788
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:37,000
I make a motion we approve the local match fund agreement for the North Texas behavioral health authority.

789
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,520
Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

790
01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:43,600
Second by Commissioner Severe. Any further comments or questions? All those in favor say aye.

791
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,100
Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

792
01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:57,380
Agenda item number 11. Discuss and act on approving the one-year renewal interlocal agreements effective October 1, 2023 with the cities of Rockwall for $65,633.

793
01:08:57,380 --> 01:09:18,660
Royce City, $88,419, he $15,475, McClendon Chisholm, $127,813, and fate, $72,661 for providing fire protection services to non-incorporated areas within the county and all related issues.

794
01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:24,220
Lisa, I'm going to kick this to you, but this is essentially what it says.

795
01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:32,560
This is us paying the city's fire departments to provide fire services in the unincorporated

796
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:33,020
areas.

797
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:40,660
So it's, while we don't have a fire department, we certainly pay for some portion of a fire

798
01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:41,840
department out in the county.

799
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:45,580
And if I could, if I could, for-

800
01:09:45,580 --> 01:09:47,540
I think you've got some news for me.

801
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:57,960
The author, yeah, Jim had called me the other day and said that we had gone back and

802
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:06,360
taken another look at the programs, and I think you've gotten some additional data from

803
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,540
the cities as well.

804
01:10:07,540 --> 01:10:15,140
So we have an update to that particular chart that will change the numbers.

805
01:10:15,740 --> 01:10:16,740
Oh, okay.

806
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,740
Oh, sure.

807
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,880
Thank you, Jim.

808
01:10:22,700 --> 01:10:24,100
You just can't.

809
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:24,880
Oh, that's okay.

810
01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:26,040
Thank you.

811
01:10:26,300 --> 01:10:26,640
Thank you.

812
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:26,980
Thank you.

813
01:10:26,980 --> 01:10:27,180
Thank you.

814
01:10:27,340 --> 01:10:27,440
You're welcome.

815
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:29,360
And same, sir.

816
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:38,840
And Jim mentioned before for Commissioner Stacey's benefit.

817
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:49,600
that since he had raised the question before, we have not done anything in this chart

818
01:10:50,520 --> 01:11:01,740
to back out any agreements that developers might have with municipalities.

819
01:11:02,580 --> 01:11:05,640
In the first page you're looking at there, that is correct.

820
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:15,960
However, the second page is a rework based on removing all of the muds in our

821
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,840
unincorporated areas from said calculations. And then the third page which

822
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,880
quite honestly personally I think is a happy medium between them is only

823
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:33,680
removing the active mud which is wildwood slash poetry road mud which has homes

824
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:40,020
streets currently going in and such. The other four, if you want to look at your

825
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:46,500
screens, commissioners, there are five in total, if this thing can keep up with me.

826
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:54,360
Just south of Roy City, you can see Camden Park mud in the third page which is

827
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:59,960
active only. The Camden Park is not considered. It's treated like it was last

828
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:08,020
year. If we scroll down and we look at the McClennan Chisholm fired district and there are three more

829
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:17,960
moths south and west of FM 548, which are also not treated any differently than last year.

830
01:12:18,580 --> 01:12:25,900
However, you do have wildwood down here, poetry road in McClennan Chisholm that I did remove again in that

831
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:28,480
that medium worksheet

832
01:12:35,620 --> 01:12:41,860
while we sort of reached a silent point here, on the contracts

833
01:12:41,860 --> 01:12:49,820
that are included in the backup which version of your numbers are reflected in those

834
01:12:49,820 --> 01:12:50,900
contract agreements.

835
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,460
I believe that is last year's numbers.

836
01:12:52,980 --> 01:12:53,900
Those are all last years.

837
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:58,500
I believe that's everything that was on the agenda item is last year's what we're currently

838
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,840
working with FY 23 numbers.

839
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,440
first. God looking ahead at 24.

840
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,280
So so I understand I'll be the I'll be the dumb one here. I'm used

841
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:24,640
to that spot. When we're talking about we are treating the wildwood utility district

842
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:31,520
as one that's already ongoing and so that could affect numbers to which to which city.

843
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:35,640
That

844
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,980
just because of where it's physically located, and to be clear, I handed the commissioners,

845
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:44,560
I'm sorry, I didn't have one for you, I handed the commissioners three different options.

846
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:50,200
The first option is to keep the status quo with what we have this year, which is agnostic

847
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,320
to anything mud-related.

848
01:13:51,740 --> 01:13:55,260
And that's what we're looking at in the contract documents, or the agreement documents

849
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:55,880
before us.

850
01:13:55,980 --> 01:14:02,380
So, if we were to adopt, for instance, the happy medium that you describe on page 3, we would

851
01:14:02,380 --> 01:14:06,020
actually have to amend the McClendon Chisholm document before it got signed.

852
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,940
We would have to amend all of them.

853
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,900
All the numbers change.

854
01:14:12,340 --> 01:14:12,540
Okay.

855
01:14:12,820 --> 01:14:16,440
At least the dollar amounts are changing annually.

856
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:17,180
Got it.

857
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:23,400
But as far as whether a mud is taken out or stays, yes.

858
01:14:23,620 --> 01:14:26,200
That kind of thing would need potentially changing.

859
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:27,440
Got it. Thank you.

860
01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:34,120
Well, I appreciate the effort. I appreciate you looking at this even though come flying

861
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:39,180
low and flying fast and everybody gets to learn how slow of a reader I actually am.

862
01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:43,680
And quite honestly, I can certainly have a one on one with anyone that has any questions.

863
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:51,120
Well, I like the direction and that appears to be the direction that many cities are taking.

864
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,360
I know we're in the process of reworking other interlocals that cities are saying, hey, we're

865
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,960
We're not going to serve us inside of my district, the development of the system.

866
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:25,840
Allopper is going to have to figure that out on their own. We're no longer going to service them. And that, that would be, this appears to be one way to at least bring to the forefront our conversation with the cities of. Yeah, we're not going to do it. You go contract with them, or they need to solve. They need to solve this issue. You know, I understand where we're going and everything. And I understand the

867
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,980
mud. And we're none of us up here.

868
01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:42,200
are fond of the MUDs, but is there not a, and I'm just from a heart I'm speaking now

869
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:47,580
instead of from a brain because I'm not, I don't know, I've seen it long enough, is there

870
01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:52,520
not anything in the law that says that they're within a certain district, you can't, they

871
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:57,940
call fire department, say, we're not going to come put you fire out. We're not, we're

872
01:15:57,940 --> 01:16:01,440
in the police department, you're in a mud, we're not going to come in service, you, that's

873
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:07,020
up your home or associates, is there no legal bond that we have?

874
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,720
I'm not sure I understand the question completely.

875
01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:14,360
If you take it, if you're saying that you take out for the,

876
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:18,740
he just said that McLean and Chisholm wasn't McLean and Chisholm said they're not going to serve.

877
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,270
So let's use...

878
01:16:22,270 --> 01:16:24,470
They're not saying they're not going to serve. This is a reimbursement.

879
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:25,270
Right.

880
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:28,870
No, but he said McLean and Chisholm are unincorporated areas only.

881
01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:29,510
Right.

882
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:38,330
But, McClendon Chisholm is still the primary responder based on location, for this mud in particular, and it's

883
01:16:38,330 --> 01:16:44,730
my understanding that there is or there will be some sort of an agreement between McClendon Chisholm and this

884
01:16:44,730 --> 01:16:53,590
mud for the mud to pay McClendon Chisholm for said services. We're attempting to remove that from our

885
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:58,930
our daughter dollars and treat it as if it is incorporated when it comes to fire.

886
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:59,930
Okay, so I understand.

887
01:17:00,590 --> 01:17:02,470
So I was thinking we weren't going to end.

888
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:04,550
Yeah, just say, hey, you guys are on your own, good luck.

889
01:17:05,310 --> 01:17:12,630
No, so it's incumbent upon us, when the developer comes to us to plant, who's going to be the police,

890
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:17,070
who's going to be the fire, who's going to be the ambulance, who's going to be the animal control,

891
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:20,730
who's going to take care of all of these services, you've essentially built a city,

892
01:17:20,730 --> 01:17:32,310
who's going to do your city services so I think that yeah but it's dangerous

893
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:39,970
I was going to say I mean when you're looking at the dollar amount from what

894
01:17:39,970 --> 01:17:49,890
you call you know only active muds to all muds it's almost negligible I think

895
01:17:49,890 --> 01:17:57,170
same time if if there were some sort of action in the ETJ with that mud not

896
01:17:57,170 --> 01:18:01,830
being active there really isn't any reimbursement for like the city of Roy

897
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:07,250
City and Camden Park. So I do think that sticking with an active mud is probably

898
01:18:07,250 --> 01:18:12,090
a good policy for us kind of going forward because if it's not a real active

899
01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:16,170
mud it really is just a land that all these fire departments would have to

900
01:18:16,170 --> 01:18:20,370
respond to, a wildfire of some sort, with no mechanism of reimbursement.

901
01:18:20,990 --> 01:18:26,310
So I do like that approach of keeping it with active muds and then keeping our eye on

902
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:30,810
when these muds become dormant, when they become active, and then making sure that there

903
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:34,470
are reimbursements that are done in that.

904
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:37,570
So I like that direction of where you went with this.

905
01:18:37,570 --> 01:18:46,850
And that's the driving force behind it, is right now there are no participation by these

906
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:56,410
developers, and I'm not sure of all, but of these developers into assisting in fire

907
01:18:58,950 --> 01:19:02,550
procedures during a particular counter-year.

908
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:12,270
Now, there are some that are fixing to be developed that are talking about, hey, we want

909
01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:17,370
to hire your fire department to do that.

910
01:19:17,890 --> 01:19:32,530
So not knowing of any interlocal agreements between these cities and the developers, we have

911
01:19:32,530 --> 01:19:42,830
Hey, under our normal circumstances, but we are prepared to adjust this, and I mean,

912
01:19:43,090 --> 01:19:51,050
it's probably a matter of 10 seconds for Jim to come back and say, tell me the number

913
01:19:51,050 --> 01:19:52,170
that you're going to reimburse you.

914
01:19:52,690 --> 01:19:57,890
It is a rather quick once I have this process, once we confirm how we're going to do this,

915
01:19:57,890 --> 01:20:03,110
to adjust the numbers is top in a number and a spreadsheet and it calculates for me.

916
01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:09,790
I will say that this agreement is an annual agreement, so perhaps we just plan to do this

917
01:20:10,620 --> 01:20:15,350
as we have this year where it's just budget time and it's time to do it.

918
01:20:15,450 --> 01:20:20,530
That's exactly what I was thinking, make us sweep through the county and see who's.

919
01:20:20,890 --> 01:20:27,110
Have y'all talked to the lawyer that you've hired regarding muds about this issue?

920
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:27,150
you?

921
01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:28,830
Have not.

922
01:20:29,190 --> 01:20:29,510
Okay.

923
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:33,350
It might be a, I mean, you've hired that person to look at these issues.

924
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:36,210
You might ask them specifically about this.

925
01:20:36,290 --> 01:20:37,470
That would be a good question.

926
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:42,810
So I'll echo, I like where we're going, I'm going to recommend that we go ahead and stick

927
01:20:42,810 --> 01:20:48,110
with the dollar amounts that we already have on the agenda that's based on last year's,

928
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:52,370
even though we're going to overpay someone slightly.

929
01:20:55,270 --> 01:21:00,070
I think it's the fair thing to do and then before this comes up next year again we'll

930
01:21:00,070 --> 01:21:07,090
make a sweep through the county and new data and new that's absolutely correct.

931
01:21:07,870 --> 01:21:12,790
So with that being said, I'm going to go ahead, do you have a question?

932
01:21:13,950 --> 01:21:14,090
No.

933
01:21:15,690 --> 01:21:21,230
So I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we approve the one-year renewal interlocal

934
01:21:21,850 --> 01:21:26,390
agreement's effective October 1 with the cities of Rockwall, Roy City, Heath, McClendon,

935
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:31,450
Chisholm, and Fate providing fire protection services to the non-incorporated areas within

936
01:21:31,450 --> 01:21:31,890
the county.

937
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:35,400
So, that is my motion.

938
01:21:36,140 --> 01:21:44,320
I want a second term motion, but are we using the figures provided by Jim that have all

939
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,800
muds included, rather than the ones in the agenda, just so that we can.

940
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:50,600
My motion is the ones in the agenda.

941
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,660
The the ones that I read into the record when we got to this agenda item I

942
01:21:55,780 --> 01:22:00,220
Just trying to clarify. Yes, sir. Okay. I will second that okay. Yeah, my motion the second by commissioner

943
01:22:00,220 --> 01:22:04,240
Stacy any further questions or comments all those in favor say I I

944
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:12,060
Any opposed it passes unanimously agenda item agenda item 12 discussing act on approving a one-year contract renewal effective

945
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:16,300
October 1, 2023 with medic rescue ink to provide

946
01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:23,300
My transportation of human remains to the medical examiner's office at a cost of $425 per

947
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:26,080
deceased and all related issues.

948
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:33,440
This is part of rock walled medics contract that we approve annually, I believe, and I

949
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:35,340
don't think the amount has changed.

950
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:41,720
And if anybody can do this cheaper, I can tell you Mitch would love for somebody else to

951
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,580
do this job instead of the ambulance.

952
01:22:43,580 --> 01:22:52,420
but contractually we require them to do it so it is what it is. I was a little

953
01:22:52,420 --> 01:22:58,260
surprised when I asked you know how many you're actually doing I was surprised

954
01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:05,420
that you know doing three four or five a month so it's not an insignificant

955
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:12,020
amount. And just to clarify for the public or anyone that's listening that the

956
01:23:12,020 --> 01:23:20,600
The transportation happens when a JP performs an inquest and then decides to send the body in for an autopsy.

957
01:23:20,860 --> 01:23:22,620
This is just not any deceased.

958
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:30,700
They're transporting for the county. This is only when they're sent to the Dallas or the medical examiner's office.

959
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:41,040
No, I appreciate that clarification. I'll make a motion that we approve the one-year contract renewal for a medical rescue to provide transportation for human remains to the medical examiner's office.

960
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:47,580
I got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Bailey. Any further questions or comments? All those in favor say aye

961
01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:49,960
Aye. Any opposed it passes unanimously

962
01:23:51,220 --> 01:23:58,940
Agenda item 13 discussing act on approving a one-year contract renewal effective October 1, 2023 with medic rescue ink to provide

963
01:23:58,940 --> 01:24:08,100
Transportation of persons to mental health facilities pursuant to chapters 573 and 574 of the Texas Health and Safety Code at the current

964
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:27,920
Medicaid slash Medicare rates in all related issues. This is a very similar to agenda item 12. This is something we have to approve annually and again our ambulance service would love for somebody else to do it, but we require them contractually to do it.

965
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:35,840
Move your proof. Got a motion by Commissioner Severe. Second by Commissioner Bailey. All those in favor say aye aye any opposed. It passes unanimously

966
01:24:36,540 --> 01:24:45,640
Springs us to agenda item 14 discuss and act on setting the daily rate for jury duty pay pursuant to hb 3474 and all related issues

967
01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:53,000
I'm going to kick that over to you because we also discuss a little bit of changing the way we physically pay people

968
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,780
That's true judge. Thank you

969
01:24:54,780 --> 01:25:05,860
I'll tackle the first part, if Treasurer Peake wants to talk about the distribution of the money that's his office.

970
01:25:06,860 --> 01:25:24,340
But the jury pay, the state enacted and approved and put into September 1st, this started that the county shall pay $20 for the first day of a juror.

971
01:25:24,340 --> 01:25:30,660
in attendance for jury duty and then the second day and every day thereafter is $58.

972
01:25:32,260 --> 01:25:44,040
They will reimburse us $14 for the first day and then $52 of each day thereafter.

973
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:53,660
So the House bill that put this into action also states that you can go higher than this

974
01:25:53,660 --> 01:25:59,680
rate if you choose to but you can't choose to go lower than this set jury pay.

975
01:26:00,620 --> 01:26:07,760
What Rockwell County has had in place through August 31st was $6 for the first day and

976
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:13,480
$40 for the second day and the state was reimbursed in as $32 for the second day.

977
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:19,660
So the states actually reimbursed in quite a bit more than they had even though the rates

978
01:26:19,660 --> 01:26:20,440
have gone up.

979
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:30,380
We did put the extra funding in FY24 because we were made aware of this earlier by the District Clerk that this would be coming into play.

980
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:37,480
And so the judge put extra funding in each of the four courtrooms.

981
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,620
This is budget in our current 24 budget.

982
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,700
Each courtroom has acted in, paying jurors more.

983
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,860
Lisa, I have a question for you on the second page of the draft.

984
01:26:52,180 --> 01:26:58,780
It does talk about the $14 a day for the reimbursement, but in the very last of that sentence

985
01:26:58,780 --> 01:27:04,840
of that section it says in the process of court for the first day or a fraction of the

986
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:10,520
first day in attendance in court in response to the process and $34 and then it just ends

987
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:15,800
because then it says number two, $52 a day for the reimbursement paid under 61.001.

988
01:27:26,730 --> 01:27:27,270
Okay,

989
01:27:29,420 --> 01:27:31,840
so I've $14 and then the...

990
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,320
Okay, okay.

991
01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:50,810
Okay,

992
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,000
34 was what that was. Okay, very good. Thank you.

993
01:28:01,660 --> 01:28:02,200
Okay,

994
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:12,000
a fairly benign unfunded mandate is what we have here on a gender item 14.

995
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:20,020
I'll make a motion then that we that we approve the setting the daily rate for the jury duty pay pursuant to House Bill 3474.

996
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,940
I've got a motion by Commissioner McLeod.

997
01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:23,740
I'll second.

998
01:28:23,940 --> 01:28:26,960
Second by Commissioner Stacey. All those in favor say aye.

999
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:27,520
Aye.

1000
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,940
Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

1001
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:41,360
It brings us to agenda item 15, discuss and act on approving an estimate from phone works to provide concrete repair services at the county library at a cost of $7,456.

1002
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,280
$1.76, Mr. Compton.

1003
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,540
So these are just trip hazards we've identified around the walking area of the library.

1004
01:28:49,940 --> 01:28:53,060
We try to jump on these to prevent trips and falls.

1005
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:59,640
This is a less invasive process than tearing out concrete and

1006
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,540
re-pouring it and carries a better warranty.

1007
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:08,140
I'm asking that this be funded from the facilities improvement budget,

1008
01:29:08,140 --> 01:29:10,120
is that I don't have any money.

1009
01:29:11,260 --> 01:29:12,060
Did you hear?

1010
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,080
Barry, we used phone works before.

1011
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:15,900
Yes, sir.

1012
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,560
And just for my education, I understand how it works.

1013
01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:23,720
Is this ever used out in more heavy duty?

1014
01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:25,060
Can this be used out in a road?

1015
01:29:25,380 --> 01:29:25,560
Yes.

1016
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,880
They do this in streets.

1017
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:29,700
Okay, fascinating.

1018
01:29:29,980 --> 01:29:30,680
They're in heath.

1019
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,820
They can suddenly be in a big cobblestone.

1020
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:35,740
Okay.

1021
01:29:38,110 --> 01:29:44,230
Yeah, everywhere I've seen it, it's worked. I didn't know if there was any limitations to the to the load. It could withstand, but

1022
01:29:45,790 --> 01:29:51,630
And you went away really quick. Yeah, I don't have any questions about the project. I just have questions about the funding

1023
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:56,050
So we're talking about funding it in the current budget. Is that what you're asking?

1024
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:59,870
If their scheduling allows them

1025
01:30:00,860 --> 01:30:29,640
To do the work before September 30, yes, I can't speak to 100% yes, they're going to get it done. Is that? That's correct. I think the facilities at this small amount of money, I think the facilities improvement fund could absorb it, either in this year or next year. Is this something that it's possible that on the next budget, when we were looking at trying to balance everything down, that we could just kind of make it

1026
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,640
make some sort of budget adjustment or is that ship sailed?

1027
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:36,900
I would prefer the ship to have sailed.

1028
01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:38,320
Okay, I'm just asking.

1029
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,980
So we have a motion by Commissioner Severe.

1030
01:30:43,740 --> 01:30:45,780
Is there a second out there?

1031
01:30:46,780 --> 01:30:47,920
I'm going to go ahead and second it.

1032
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,260
Any further questions or comments?

1033
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:53,220
So we've got Commissioner Severe's motion.

1034
01:30:53,340 --> 01:30:54,920
My second, all those in favor say aye.

1035
01:30:55,180 --> 01:30:55,400
Aye.

1036
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:56,300
Any opposed?

1037
01:30:56,580 --> 01:30:57,360
It passes unanimously.

1038
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:08,920
brings us to agenda item 16, discuss and act on approving a one-year renewal service agreement with house warmers for the Veterans Service Office at a cost of $900 in all related issues.

1039
01:31:09,480 --> 01:31:27,340
This is just what it says court and so I emailed Linda Flannery, our Veterans Services Administrator, and ask is this us putting notification in of the services that we offer to veterans.

1040
01:31:27,340 --> 01:31:30,660
to everybody that moves in to Rockwell County.

1041
01:31:31,140 --> 01:31:32,360
She said, yes it is.

1042
01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:35,160
Plus we can put in brochures, contact information.

1043
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:38,840
So it's just an outreach to let any veterans

1044
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,500
that move here know, hey, we've got services for you.

1045
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:47,140
We have a whole division, which is Linda at your service here.

1046
01:31:49,260 --> 01:31:52,160
So it truly is just that simple.

1047
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:53,300
It's a good program.

1048
01:31:53,740 --> 01:31:56,240
I personally do it from precinct two.

1049
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:03,740
so I think it's a good program. I'll make a motion then that we approve the one-year renewal

1050
01:32:03,740 --> 01:32:08,320
service agreement with HouseWormers for the Veteran Services Office at a cost of $900.

1051
01:32:08,900 --> 01:32:14,400
Okay, got a motion by Commissioner McClick. Second by Commissioner Severe. All those in favor say aye.

1052
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:20,340
Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Brings us to agenda item 17 discussing act on approving

1053
01:32:20,340 --> 01:32:28,960
county membership with Dallas Regional Mobility Coalition at a fee of $8,992.50 and all related

1054
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,860
issues. I'm going to kick this one to you Lisa. Each one of these different subscriptions

1055
01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:41,680
or memberships I always like to bring it back to the court to make sure that this is still

1056
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:49,000
in tune with what the court sees as something they want to be involved with. So this Dallas Regional

1057
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:56,340
mobility coalition membership the funding is there for it is just determined by your action.

1058
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:03,100
So I just have an educating question from my standpoint. Is this something that also

1059
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:08,240
because I know we've kind of already it's already in the budget that we've kind of all gone through.

1060
01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:16,340
So these are items that we are approving but is there any way to have a little bit more advanced

1061
01:33:16,340 --> 01:33:21,980
notice of these so that we could review them. Are we taking them out for bid? You know,

1062
01:33:22,180 --> 01:33:26,480
ever so often, like every two to three, four or five years, whatever? Or is this something that's

1063
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:34,260
just been, you know, renewed every year for a long time? It has been Commissioner, I think Commissioner

1064
01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:38,720
Bailey probably could explain more what Dallas Regional Mobility does for the county.

1065
01:33:39,340 --> 01:33:43,640
And I didn't, I'm not speaking specifically for this one, but to her point of all the next ones

1066
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,700
that are coming up as well.

1067
01:33:45,060 --> 01:33:50,420
And I want to be real careful on how I address this,

1068
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,760
but I think that you are the responsible person

1069
01:33:55,190 --> 01:33:57,680
on the commissioner's court for DRMC.

1070
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,000
For the bike, I know the bike paths I'm doing though,

1071
01:34:01,260 --> 01:34:07,400
but the DRMC, I think that was back in one

1072
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,960
of the original processes that we did.

1073
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:12,420
OK, OK.

1074
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:24,620
This has to do with all the Dallas surrounding municipalities, the Garlands and mosquitos and

1075
01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:36,580
Lewis fields and all those areas, they have supported the eastern reach for transportation.

1076
01:34:36,580 --> 01:34:46,980
And Drew Campbell, who is the executive director of that organization, spends a lot of time

1077
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,140
in Austin with the legislative committee.

1078
01:34:51,380 --> 01:34:53,020
And he's been serving

1079
01:34:55,450 --> 01:34:58,830
in that area for 15, 20 years.

1080
01:35:02,220 --> 01:35:11,620
I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but I think that's what had happened.

1081
01:35:11,620 --> 01:35:21,760
happened at that particular time, but speaking to these come sooner, no, they're on an

1082
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:32,680
annual basis, and it's, you know, do we want to join, you know, or not, to those particular

1083
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:45,040
projects. There's a lot of things that go on with electric cars.

1084
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:50,460
It's very fascinating

1085
01:35:50,770 --> 01:35:57,840
to set through some of these transportation, meaning with the DRMC board to work there.

1086
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:04,880
and there's probably 30, 40 members that are there in that.

1087
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,180
So, I'm not sure I did answer your question.

1088
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,740
Well, okay.

1089
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:12,800
That's all right.

1090
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:14,520
There is a,

1091
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:22,700
I'll certainly get drew to forward you the information.

1092
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,540
Yeah, because I see that you're on the board and that,

1093
01:36:28,540 --> 01:36:36,400
But I don't know that I've received a whole lot of the the bike path. I know I'm getting a lot. Okay, good deal. Okay, very fun.

1094
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:45,420
Look, I get what you're saying. We will present to you the list of dues that the county pays that a list is out.

1095
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,620
News maintenance agreements, just, you know, the ones that...

1096
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:53,020
Yeah, I can tell you this time of the year when we're coming up on the end of the budget.

1097
01:36:53,020 --> 01:36:56,020
but there's hardly any way.

1098
01:36:56,260 --> 01:36:59,220
I mean, my goal, and I said, when I was seated here,

1099
01:36:59,340 --> 01:37:03,440
that I want to try to maintain about 15 agenda items,

1100
01:37:03,620 --> 01:37:05,940
outside of executive session in consent and payroll,

1101
01:37:06,180 --> 01:37:10,280
but 15, because that is all you can just about ask

1102
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,400
of the commissioners to take home and get through

1103
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,960
on the weekend and have the questions asked Monday

1104
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,720
and time for court Tuesday.

1105
01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:21,980
I mean, this one, that's, and that's not here.

1106
01:37:21,980 --> 01:37:29,580
this is today's and and it's it's it's too much but this time of year there's

1107
01:37:29,580 --> 01:37:32,820
there's no way around it we're going to be right here next year with one

1108
01:37:32,820 --> 01:37:38,000
that's just as thick because everything comes down to the very last end of the

1109
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:46,650
budget and and we have to approve approve or not and I'm going to say something

1110
01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:54,370
and probably wished I hadn't of, but there's maybe I shouldn't.

1111
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,220
This would be a great

1112
01:38:02,260 --> 01:38:14,520
place to have a purchasing agent. I mean, no better place to have someone go through

1113
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:24,740
all, think about all of the maintenance, operational, high-stantial that we were on right

1114
01:38:24,740 --> 01:38:27,120
up to the end, and then we just approved,

1115
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:34,760
and that's putting a lot of confidence, and

1116
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:46,220
And I agree that we should allow our directors to be able to make that decision as to who

1117
01:38:46,220 --> 01:38:52,440
they want to represent them in the maintenance of the equipment that they're going to use.

1118
01:38:53,180 --> 01:38:53,920
But you know what?

1119
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,520
Are these all vetted?

1120
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,160
Off a long list.

1121
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:03,220
It is a big list.

1122
01:39:03,460 --> 01:39:04,680
It is an awful long list.

1123
01:39:05,580 --> 01:39:11,800
and I agree with that. I tend to look at it as kind of buying an insurance policy.

1124
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:17,380
You know, the maintenance agreements are, if something goes wrong, do we just call one person?

1125
01:39:18,460 --> 01:39:22,520
But do you ever vet your insurance company?

1126
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:28,100
It is a whole question. I mean, how do they pay their claims? How do they?

1127
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,420
But before I'm not going to fight on that rabbit trail.

1128
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:34,100
Yes, sir.

1129
01:39:34,220 --> 01:39:35,340
You can be quite over there.

1130
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:36,480
Leading the crumbs.

1131
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,040
So we have an agenda item in front of us.

1132
01:39:40,820 --> 01:39:48,480
Discuss the act on applying the membership and approval to obtain the membership of the

1133
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,780
DRMC for the following year.

1134
01:39:53,420 --> 01:39:53,600
All right.

1135
01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:54,860
Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

1136
01:39:57,220 --> 01:39:58,960
Seconded since I'm supposed to be here.

1137
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,900
I've got a second by Commissioner Macklick.

1138
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:03,580
All those in favor say aye.

1139
01:40:03,740 --> 01:40:04,100
Aye.

1140
01:40:04,460 --> 01:40:04,880
Any opposed?

1141
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:05,900
It passes unanimously.

1142
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,860
All right, it's a good time to take a break.

1143
01:40:09,060 --> 01:40:12,180
It is 10.40.

1144
01:40:12,340 --> 01:40:14,240
We're going to take a break till about 10.50.

1145
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:24,580
Wait for you, Dana.

1146
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:26,340
No, here's my side.

1147
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:27,260
Wait for the old man.

1148
01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:37,280
All right, thank you everyone.

1149
01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:40,300
At 10.53, we're going to reconvene the regular meeting.

1150
01:40:40,460 --> 01:40:42,220
And we are on agenda item number 18,

1151
01:40:42,220 --> 01:40:44,600
discussing act on approving a renewal agreement

1152
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:50,380
with Roy City for dispatch services provided by the Rockwell County Sheriff's Office and an annual

1153
01:40:50,380 --> 01:40:58,260
fee of $120,000 in all related issues. Yes, sir. Sheriff Garrett may be able to speak more

1154
01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:05,320
in depth about the topic. We have always been in an agreement with the for dispatch with Roy City.

1155
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:13,540
The agreement in the past was I believe $65,000 and this year the annual renewal has gone to

1156
01:41:13,540 --> 01:41:21,340
to $120,000 and Roy City has agreed and this we did put the revenue in the FY24 budget.

1157
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:28,460
Got it. So this is accounted for in revenue and expenditures on our budget that we're going

1158
01:41:28,460 --> 01:41:32,700
to be voting on shortly. Is there any questions for the sheriff or the auditor?

1159
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:39,080
No, I move we approve. Got a motion by Commissioner Stacy, second by Commissioner Severe. All those in favor say aye.

1160
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:45,060
Any opposed that passes unanimously brings us to agenda item 19, discussing act on approving

1161
01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:51,300
a quote from net work sciences ink for document file preparation and delivery of all PDF forms

1162
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:56,540
and scanned images at a cost of $3,000 in all related issues.

1163
01:41:58,940 --> 01:42:08,620
Our Indigenous Health Department has canceled her network science software agreement.

1164
01:42:09,260 --> 01:42:16,740
This would digitize her documents that she's had with them for the years that she's

1165
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:17,500
had the software.

1166
01:42:17,500 --> 01:42:25,380
where I did put the 3,000 in the budget when I was made aware of this into her software

1167
01:42:25,380 --> 01:42:33,540
line or maintenance agreement line and I recommended that she go ahead and do this if

1168
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:39,960
she ever did want to integrate these files into her new software if it was by any means

1169
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:45,260
available to her for her to do that that to have them digitized was important.

1170
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:50,060
All right, anybody have any questions?

1171
01:42:52,670 --> 01:42:58,470
I had a quick question. In the in the backup

1172
01:42:58,470 --> 01:43:03,050
data, it said that they were trying to reach out to see if there was another cheaper way

1173
01:43:03,050 --> 01:43:06,350
of doing this internally. Has that search been exhausted?

1174
01:43:22,540 --> 01:43:29,380
It was another county that had tried to do a few things internally.

1175
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:40,120
So I contacted them with Brian and Alan and it's not going to work.

1176
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:46,580
So that's the quote is for the transfer of all the data.

1177
01:43:46,580 --> 01:43:49,440
and it will go into the IHS software.

1178
01:43:50,060 --> 01:43:51,800
They've done it many, many times.

1179
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,600
You know, there's only two providers now

1180
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,220
and this is done quite often.

1181
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,720
So actually network science is ready to go.

1182
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,720
I've already been contacted and they have the,

1183
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,280
they've constructed the files and they're ready

1184
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:10,280
to send them over.

1185
01:44:12,170 --> 01:44:13,520
All right, any further questions?

1186
01:44:13,940 --> 01:44:14,040
Nope.

1187
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:20,360
John, is this something in the future that we have would be something that this would

1188
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,860
work for too or is this a dream?

1189
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:31,920
These providers love to hold a hook in all of their software and all of their data so

1190
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:39,060
that when you end their agreements, they make you pay to get it shifted back out for you.

1191
01:44:39,260 --> 01:44:43,940
So I would assume that if another player got in and we wanted to move from healthcare

1192
01:44:43,940 --> 01:44:47,900
solutions of somewhere else, healthcare solutions will charge us four or five thousand dollars

1193
01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:53,840
to pull all that data to transfer over. It's just a game that software people have learned

1194
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:59,980
to play. Thanks. There were a few things that were for free. They were going to offer for free.

1195
01:45:06,060 --> 01:45:13,900
All right. Any further questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Got a motion by Commissioner

1196
01:45:13,900 --> 01:45:19,040
Severe. I'll second it. Second by Commissioner Macklic. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?

1197
01:45:19,300 --> 01:45:24,520
It passes unanimously. Brings us to agenda item 20, discuss and act on approving a non-exclusive

1198
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,820
license agreement with indigent healthcare solutions for the software system to be used by

1199
01:45:28,820 --> 01:45:35,360
the indigent health care department at a monthly fee of $1,865 in all related issues.

1200
01:45:37,310 --> 01:45:44,630
I believe this is a pretty simple straightforward. We've already given indigent health approval

1201
01:45:44,630 --> 01:45:50,390
to get off of the old software and get on to the new software at a previous commissioners

1202
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:55,670
court meeting. So if you would like to say anything, or if there's any questions, yes,

1203
01:45:55,670 --> 01:46:01,210
I would just like to say one thing, having worked with Dana on this, I just wanted to kind

1204
01:46:01,210 --> 01:46:05,470
of point out to the court that Dana worked very hard to get this new agreement to be the

1205
01:46:05,470 --> 01:46:06,090
most favorable.

1206
01:46:06,370 --> 01:46:07,350
It could be to the county.

1207
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:09,150
And I just wanted to recognize her for that.

1208
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:10,330
All right.

1209
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:10,770
Well done.

1210
01:46:10,970 --> 01:46:11,690
Thank you for doing that.

1211
01:46:11,930 --> 01:46:12,110
Yes.

1212
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:19,130
Anytime I see a contract, a Dundam Rockwall County, Texas, it makes me smile for our legal team

1213
01:46:19,130 --> 01:46:23,930
and department heads that force a secondary contract, a Dundam that has to be signed.

1214
01:46:23,930 --> 01:46:25,450
So thank you, Destry.

1215
01:46:25,550 --> 01:46:27,450
Thank you, Dana, for working through that.

1216
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:28,030
I read it.

1217
01:46:28,210 --> 01:46:29,010
It's really nice.

1218
01:46:29,170 --> 01:46:32,490
My only comment, and I asked Dana before the meeting,

1219
01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:34,790
so she wouldn't think that I was trying to throw

1220
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:35,550
under the bus here.

1221
01:46:36,510 --> 01:46:39,430
But the data migration was on .303 that says

1222
01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:42,270
that we have to put the data in the correct format

1223
01:46:42,270 --> 01:46:43,790
to move it over to the system.

1224
01:46:44,170 --> 01:46:46,270
And you are confident that we're going to get that done

1225
01:46:46,270 --> 01:46:48,190
because it basically says if you don't do that,

1226
01:46:48,310 --> 01:46:49,030
it doesn't get done.

1227
01:46:50,010 --> 01:46:52,310
So I was just going to have you comment on that very quickly.

1228
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:59,090
Everything else on the contract I thought was good, but that was the previous quote to network

1229
01:46:59,090 --> 01:47:01,290
science for that data transfer.

1230
01:47:01,710 --> 01:47:01,830
Yes.

1231
01:47:02,330 --> 01:47:05,910
They kind of go hand in hand that we have to put it all in the correct format and move

1232
01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:09,910
it over, and if we don't do that, then our data is gone, and that's what this contract

1233
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:10,230
says.

1234
01:47:11,210 --> 01:47:13,330
So anyways, I just wanted to point that out, all right?

1235
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:14,050
All right.

1236
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:15,910
I'll entertain a motion.

1237
01:47:16,490 --> 01:47:22,150
I'll make a motion that we approve the non-exclusive license agreement with Indigent Healthcare Solutions

1238
01:47:22,150 --> 01:47:28,990
for the software system to be used for the Ingestion Health Care Department and a monthly fee of $1,865.

1239
01:47:29,130 --> 01:47:30,850
Got a motion by Commissioner McLeod.

1240
01:47:31,370 --> 01:47:32,470
I'll say, oh, you got it.

1241
01:47:33,210 --> 01:47:35,770
Got a second by Commissioner Bailey, all those in favor say aye.

1242
01:47:36,010 --> 01:47:36,210
Aye.

1243
01:47:36,530 --> 01:47:40,410
Any opposed, it passes unanimously, brings us to agenda item 21,

1244
01:47:40,630 --> 01:47:43,390
discussing act on approving a three-year renewal maintenance agreement

1245
01:47:43,390 --> 01:47:50,630
with affiliated telephone and incorporated for the phone system at an annual cost of $13,247.50

1246
01:47:50,630 --> 01:48:04,750
Since effective October 1, 2023 and all related issues, we said you have any comments on this, pretty standard, it's our phone system and nothing exciting about it.

1247
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:06,590
I make a motion we approve.

1248
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:08,430
Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

1249
01:48:10,010 --> 01:48:15,470
I'll go ahead in a second, so got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, I have the second, any further questions or comments?

1250
01:48:16,110 --> 01:48:17,090
All those in favor say aye.

1251
01:48:17,090 --> 01:48:25,150
Hi. Hi. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. It brings us to agenda item number 22. Discuss

1252
01:48:25,150 --> 01:48:30,050
an act on approving the renewal of an agreement for use of subscription material with Lexipold

1253
01:48:30,050 --> 01:48:36,410
to provide a policy management service and software for law enforcement and all related issues.

1254
01:48:37,470 --> 01:48:39,910
Ms. Lisa, I'm going to kick that over to you.

1255
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:49,250
Judge, I really have no more comments on it. It is a renewal. The Sheriff's Office has used it. It is budgeted in FY 24.

1256
01:48:51,730 --> 01:48:57,250
I've not heard any problems with them use having the software in the District. It's got to hand up.

1257
01:48:58,470 --> 01:49:00,450
I just do have one comment on that.

1258
01:49:00,870 --> 01:49:03,710
Craig and I had spoke to Keith McKnight about this agreement.

1259
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:07,530
We did have one thing that we wanted to see change in there that's important to us.

1260
01:49:08,010 --> 01:49:09,310
We're not saying that it needs to be pulled.

1261
01:49:09,670 --> 01:49:12,650
It's one of those rare instances where we would ask the court if they're going to approve

1262
01:49:12,650 --> 01:49:15,590
that they do it subject to successful negotiation by legal.

1263
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:17,330
We just need one provision struck.

1264
01:49:17,630 --> 01:49:21,030
Keith McKnight was confident that that would be not a problem, but I don't think we've heard

1265
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:21,650
back from Alexa.

1266
01:49:23,620 --> 01:49:25,900
Okay, so tell me again,

1267
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,100
how the motion would read?

1268
01:49:28,420 --> 01:49:33,120
We would approve contingent on legal renegotiating the contract.

1269
01:49:35,140 --> 01:49:40,830
The past where you approve it is subject to legal approval.

1270
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:42,770
Yes, subject to legal approval.

1271
01:49:43,010 --> 01:49:44,830
And it's all been negotiated in such as that.

1272
01:49:44,930 --> 01:49:46,130
We don't anticipate any problems.

1273
01:49:46,290 --> 01:49:49,190
We simply, as we sit here today at 11.03,

1274
01:49:49,570 --> 01:49:52,110
we haven't heard back yet with the revision that we've requested,

1275
01:49:52,250 --> 01:49:53,370
but we anticipate we'll get it.

1276
01:49:53,370 --> 01:49:56,950
So just subject to legal approval and then we'll submit it to you for signature.

1277
01:49:57,630 --> 01:49:59,550
Got it. Does anybody have any questions?

1278
01:50:00,270 --> 01:50:05,770
If not, I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we approve the renewal of an agreement

1279
01:50:05,770 --> 01:50:10,170
for use of the subscription material with Alexa Poll to provide a policy management service

1280
01:50:10,170 --> 01:50:18,030
and software for law enforcement and an annual cost of $31,156.54 subject to legal approval.

1281
01:50:18,730 --> 01:50:19,290
I will second.

1282
01:50:19,290 --> 01:50:24,450
Got my motion and second by Commissioner Stacy any further comments or questions all those in favor say aye

1283
01:50:24,450 --> 01:50:27,270
Hi, any opposed it passes unanimously

1284
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:35,910
Springs us to agenda item 23 you discuss and act on awarding a contract based on the bids received for generator service and

1285
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:41,290
Inspection of four generators located at two separate county facilities and all related issues

1286
01:50:41,290 --> 01:50:43,650
I guess the court

1287
01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:50,770
asked me to go out for an informal bid for generator services. It was also

1288
01:50:50,770 --> 01:50:54,790
recommended by our maintenance director to do so along with the court

1289
01:50:54,790 --> 01:51:01,730
suggestion and when we did, one bid was received back. The company that we

1290
01:51:01,730 --> 01:51:08,290
had our contract with for years and years did not choose to bid. So this is a

1291
01:51:08,290 --> 01:51:13,570
new, or I should say I don't know if they did not choose to bid, they did not bid.

1292
01:51:15,010 --> 01:51:21,790
and the Clifford Power Systems Inc. was the Soul Bitter,

1293
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:25,130
which we spoke with our maintenance director,

1294
01:51:25,370 --> 01:51:28,210
and he was fine with that.

1295
01:51:28,330 --> 01:51:29,770
He's here if you want to ask him.

1296
01:51:30,290 --> 01:51:32,550
One thing I do want to clarify, though,

1297
01:51:33,070 --> 01:51:35,210
that the Steward and Stevens' agreement

1298
01:51:35,210 --> 01:51:38,430
does require a 30-day notice.

1299
01:51:38,770 --> 01:51:42,570
So in your motion, would you also authorize

1300
01:51:42,570 --> 01:51:51,250
authorize legal in my office to send notice to the previous vendor.

1301
01:51:52,690 --> 01:52:02,210
So it's not very often that you can get services at a 69.72% increase and confidently say you save $10,000.

1302
01:52:03,230 --> 01:52:04,670
So very, very strange.

1303
01:52:04,730 --> 01:52:05,570
But here we are.

1304
01:52:05,570 --> 01:52:12,470
So here we are. The price on this is currently 48. It's going to 83. Our previous

1305
01:52:13,650 --> 01:52:18,570
Stewart and Stevens wanted to do it at 18,000. So going out for bid, save the

1306
01:52:18,570 --> 01:52:24,110
county $10,331. So I think that that's a good work doing a little bit extra work

1307
01:52:24,110 --> 01:52:29,390
just to make sure we don't take a 300% increase and say, well, you know, we don't

1308
01:52:29,390 --> 01:52:35,390
have to do that. We can try to find something better. So I'm going to go ahead and

1309
01:52:35,390 --> 01:52:43,910
make a motion that we approve this contract and also alert our current vendor that we

1310
01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:45,170
are terminating that contract.

1311
01:52:45,610 --> 01:52:47,010
Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

1312
01:52:47,970 --> 01:52:48,190
Okay.

1313
01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:52,430
Second by Commissioner Severe, we have any further questions or comments, all those in favor

1314
01:52:52,430 --> 01:52:52,910
say aye.

1315
01:52:53,230 --> 01:52:53,490
Aye.

1316
01:52:53,830 --> 01:52:54,230
Any opposed?

1317
01:52:54,630 --> 01:52:55,650
Passes unanimously.

1318
01:52:56,870 --> 01:53:02,550
That brings us to agenda item 24, discuss and act on approving a letter of non-renewal

1319
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:05,550
for the interlocal cooperation agreement with the city of West

1320
01:53:05,550 --> 01:53:10,030
to walk any regarding housing prisoners and all related issues.

1321
01:53:10,710 --> 01:53:13,670
This is just pretty straightforward.

1322
01:53:14,110 --> 01:53:19,650
We have a shiny new jail and we can house our own for the time being.

1323
01:53:19,850 --> 01:53:20,170
Thank you.

1324
01:53:21,330 --> 01:53:24,950
So if there's no questions or comments, I just have one quick comment.

1325
01:53:25,230 --> 01:53:28,550
Sherry, thank you for finding this and starting this process.

1326
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:31,950
It's awesome to have an interlocal agreement be terminated that I didn't

1327
01:53:31,950 --> 01:53:37,010
have to bring forward. So that was pretty cool work. So with that, I will make a motion

1328
01:53:37,010 --> 01:53:41,630
that we approve a letter of non-renewal for the interlocal agreement with the City of

1329
01:53:41,630 --> 01:53:42,670
West Indoch to walk any.

1330
01:53:43,070 --> 01:53:47,770
All right, got a motion by Commissioner Stacey. Second by Commissioner Severe, all those

1331
01:53:47,770 --> 01:53:53,330
in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Agenda item 25, discuss an act

1332
01:53:53,330 --> 01:53:58,510
on approving amendment two to the agreement with HDR Architecture Inc. to accept the proposal

1333
01:53:58,510 --> 01:54:04,710
for a load-bearing feasibility study at the Courthouse Pint House at a cost of $15,989

1334
01:54:05,450 --> 01:54:06,970
in all-related issues.

1335
01:54:08,210 --> 01:54:13,410
I think this was one of the items that was brought up at our last meeting and we wanted

1336
01:54:13,410 --> 01:54:14,830
to have it really formalized.

1337
01:54:14,990 --> 01:54:16,930
I know that Barry was there.

1338
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:18,390
You want to say anything, Barry?

1339
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:24,400
No, not really.

1340
01:54:24,740 --> 01:54:25,920
Oh, okay.

1341
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:27,440
I don't know.

1342
01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:28,420
I'll put that button.

1343
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:30,560
That's okay.

1344
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:37,320
Okay, we just want to, I think the plan is, or the assumption is we're moving records

1345
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:45,620
into the pin house at the new courthouse, we want to make sure that we can do that without

1346
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:53,980
causing structural issues before doing so, and whatever issues we might run into life-safety

1347
01:54:53,980 --> 01:54:54,460
systems.

1348
01:54:55,340 --> 01:54:56,100
Got it?

1349
01:54:56,460 --> 01:54:56,740
Thank you.

1350
01:54:56,740 --> 01:54:58,700
Anybody have any questions for Barry before he sneaks off?

1351
01:55:00,220 --> 01:55:01,620
He is so quick to do that.

1352
01:55:01,780 --> 01:55:04,900
He just runs away and gets it done and moves on. I like it.

1353
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:09,060
All right, so I'm going to go ahead and make the emotion that we approve.

1354
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:14,820
Amendment 2 to the agreement with HDR architecture to accept the bid for a load-bearing feasibility

1355
01:55:15,340 --> 01:55:22,120
study of the courthouse penthouse at a cost of $15,989 and zero cents.

1356
01:55:22,620 --> 01:55:23,600
I'll second that motion.

1357
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,160
Got my motion, got a second.

1358
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,060
All those in favor say aye.

1359
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:27,780
Aye.

1360
01:55:28,140 --> 01:55:28,500
Any opposed?

1361
01:55:28,900 --> 01:55:29,040
Aye.

1362
01:55:29,740 --> 01:55:31,380
It passes 3 to 2.

1363
01:55:33,580 --> 01:55:35,700
All right, agenda item 26.

1364
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:41,240
Discuss and act on approving the FY 2024 Texas SAVNS

1365
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:45,320
Annual Maintenance Grant Contract, whereby the Attorney General's Office

1366
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:49,820
will provide grant monies in the amount of $18,030.39

1367
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,040
and all related issues, Ms. Lisa.

1368
01:55:52,040 --> 01:56:00,620
So, sir, this is an ongoing grant that we have that we pay the expense and then the

1369
01:56:00,620 --> 01:56:03,140
attorney general's office pays us back.

1370
01:56:04,180 --> 01:56:08,200
It is in the budget is basically, it's a pass-through.

1371
01:56:08,820 --> 01:56:13,500
We receive the money, we pay the money out, and the current amount that's in the budget

1372
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:14,980
is the current amount that's listed.

1373
01:56:16,340 --> 01:56:17,240
Make a motion.

1374
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:17,720
We approve.

1375
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:22,540
and a motion by Commissioner Stacey, second by Commissioner Bailey. Any further questions or comments?

1376
01:56:23,380 --> 01:56:24,900
All those in favor say aye. Aye.

1377
01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:26,860
Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

1378
01:56:27,460 --> 01:56:36,920
Brings us to agenda item 27. Discuss and act on awarding the 2024 contracts for bids received or the following road and bridge construction materials.

1379
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:42,680
Number one, the hot mix asphalt concrete. Number two, asphalt, faults, oils and emulsions.

1380
01:56:43,300 --> 01:56:46,660
Number three, gas oil and diesel. Number four, corrugated metal pipe.

1381
01:56:46,660 --> 01:56:50,960
Number five, cement treated materials and all related issues.

1382
01:56:51,580 --> 01:56:52,780
Yes, the desk treated you?

1383
01:56:54,140 --> 01:56:56,300
Oh, I thought that was pretty quick for a question.

1384
01:56:56,500 --> 01:56:56,920
I thought, what?

1385
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,400
We can't have gotten off track already.

1386
01:57:00,900 --> 01:57:01,340
Okay.

1387
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:06,120
This is something, members of the court, especially the ones that's been here for a while.

1388
01:57:06,260 --> 01:57:07,480
No, you do this every year.

1389
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,200
You put it out for bid every year.

1390
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:12,560
Got Commissioner Bailey.

1391
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,520
Makes a motion to approve.

1392
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:19,580
a second by Commissioner Severe. Any further questions or comments? All those in favor say aye.

1393
01:57:19,980 --> 01:57:26,060
Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. Okay, that brings us.

1394
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:33,540
Agenda item 28, discuss and act on renewing the following annual maintenance agreements for October

1395
01:57:33,540 --> 01:57:41,560
1, 2023 through September 30, 2024 and all related issues and there are pages.

1396
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:45,730
We have

1397
01:57:48,420 --> 01:57:55,740
64 line items and I believe there was one we're pulling or maybe two we're pulling.

1398
01:57:58,330 --> 01:57:59,510
Get back.

1399
01:57:59,950 --> 01:58:03,190
The pulling ones come from property requisitions.

1400
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:04,610
Okay, property requisitions.

1401
01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:06,610
All right, so we're not pulling.

1402
01:58:09,020 --> 01:58:12,620
Almost hesitate to ask any questions or comments, commissioners.

1403
01:58:12,620 --> 01:58:23,420
I'll just let for the record know that the vendors that are listed one through 64.

1404
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:32,720
The names and dollar amount, I mean the dollar amounts are what is in your FY24 under maintenance

1405
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:39,720
agreements that are scattered through the budget in different departments and so forth or

1406
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,140
general government and so forth.

1407
01:58:41,140 --> 01:59:09,920
Yeah, and I can say for those looking at home that don't have the agenda in front of you, the total is $1,850,263.62 cents for maintenance agreements and sitting through the first county budget every department after every department has increase in maintenance agreements and some of them substantial just some of them almost the doubling of maintenance agreements, but again it's it's like buying insurance a lot of them.

1408
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:13,560
You don't dare not have the maintenance agreement.

1409
01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:18,620
I also want to point out that the maintenance agreement is also software and other things.

1410
01:59:18,620 --> 01:59:23,900
This isn't just going around and maintaining buildings and stuff like that.

1411
01:59:24,140 --> 01:59:32,320
This is what falls under this category is also all the software and technology required to run the county as well.

1412
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:47,280
and it is a 27% increase year to year, 393,000 and $13 to the one that was voted on last year at this time, but 270,000 of that is the Tyler software alone.

1413
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:59,440
So it is significant, it is every department, but it is almost completely that huge chunk

1414
01:59:59,440 --> 01:59:59,980
is actually...

1415
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:27,720
Just straight from our justice, our new world and Odyssey servers and what we're doing. And the reason is because we did an install and now we're in the maintenance agreement phase of those software. So that's why you have the big uptick in Tyler, as we have gone from an install to the maintenance, which is causing the price to go up. So I just wanted to point that out that most of this is actually Tyler. And that will be the same going forward.

1416
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:32,700
Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and make a motion that we've renewed the following annual

1417
02:00:32,700 --> 02:00:40,660
maintenance agreements for October 1 through September 30, 2024 and items 1 through 64

1418
02:00:40,660 --> 02:00:42,780
and please tell me I can do it that easy.

1419
02:00:43,900 --> 02:00:45,400
Okay, if you can I'll second it.

1420
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:46,440
Yes, all right.

1421
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:50,660
So we have my motion, have a second by Commissioner Stacey's.

1422
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:52,100
Any further questions or comments?

1423
02:00:52,940 --> 02:00:54,360
All those in favor say aye.

1424
02:00:54,740 --> 02:00:55,020
Aye.

1425
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:55,800
Any opposed?

1426
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:03,580
it passes unanimously. That brings us to agenda item 29. Public hearing to

1427
02:01:03,580 --> 02:01:09,240
discuss the proposed FY2024 budget for Rockwell County and all related issues.

1428
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:15,260
So this is that public hearing that we've been working toward.

1429
02:01:19,890 --> 02:01:20,830
You need to

1430
02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:25,530
technically start it. Yeah whoever would like to if

1431
02:01:28,380 --> 02:01:29,770
nobody's got anything to say

1432
02:01:29,770 --> 02:01:33,710
got a motion. Someone's raising their hand in the public.

1433
02:01:36,590 --> 02:01:43,170
I didn't know. Let me let me get a legal.

1434
02:01:44,570 --> 02:01:49,090
So, so what I'm going to suggest is I know that we have public comments at the beginning of

1435
02:01:49,090 --> 02:01:55,570
the meeting, but because this is a statutorily required public hearing on the budget. Probably

1436
02:01:55,570 --> 02:02:00,030
be appropriate. Love it. Except comments again. Love it. Come on up, state your name.

1437
02:02:21,410 --> 02:02:25,670
I'll whack her through and I'm feathers don't thrive. Thank you again. In fact, when I fill out the

1438
02:02:25,670 --> 02:02:31,390
form before I put public discussion and the budget. And so I was surprised when you called me earlier.

1439
02:02:31,390 --> 02:02:40,190
here. One common, I hope the fire marshal gets canned. The second thing is the why couldn't

1440
02:02:40,190 --> 02:02:46,870
you make these contractual agreements like the consultant for the transportation committee

1441
02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:52,770
where you have 30 days you could let him go. If you're going to hire this person full time

1442
02:02:52,770 --> 02:02:58,430
either a general counsel or a political or public information officer, couldn't that be done

1443
02:02:58,430 --> 02:03:00,570
on a contractual basis as a consultant.

1444
02:03:01,390 --> 02:03:03,430
And that way if there's nothing to publicize,

1445
02:03:03,570 --> 02:03:06,250
there's not 64 agreements, et cetera,

1446
02:03:06,350 --> 02:03:07,050
all these little things.

1447
02:03:07,470 --> 02:03:08,850
There's only the annexation.

1448
02:03:09,510 --> 02:03:10,570
There's only a couple of things

1449
02:03:10,570 --> 02:03:12,070
that you can publicly talk about

1450
02:03:12,690 --> 02:03:16,210
that will a public information officer be kept busy.

1451
02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:18,710
And on a contractual basis, if you find out,

1452
02:03:18,810 --> 02:03:21,170
just like you're looking at the transportation guy,

1453
02:03:21,710 --> 02:03:23,150
hey, is he pulling his weight?

1454
02:03:23,470 --> 02:03:24,690
Is he doing what we ask him to do?

1455
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:27,650
If not, we can fire him in 30 days.

1456
02:03:27,650 --> 02:03:33,250
We can give them notice in say 30 days. So to hire someone full time when you're not sure what the description is

1457
02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:40,370
What they're going to do how busy they will be and in fact I heard that the general counsel will provide a lot of information

1458
02:03:40,370 --> 02:03:43,770
About all of these contracts and these issues to the commissioners court

1459
02:03:45,710 --> 02:03:51,890
That's not the commissioners court. That's the people out there that need this attorney that attorney should be for those people all the other

1460
02:03:51,890 --> 02:03:58,170
Departments to say hey, we've got a contract with you review this for us until it so it when it gets to you

1461
02:03:58,170 --> 02:04:03,430
it's already been reviewed and approved. You don't have to do that last step. So I guess

1462
02:04:04,970 --> 02:04:09,690
and we're only growing 3% and with all the other people are adding stuff as Cliff said in one

1463
02:04:09,690 --> 02:04:14,570
of the meetings. Could we look at this in light of do we really need to spend this much commit

1464
02:04:14,570 --> 02:04:20,370
this much money every year to a person without a contract, without an agreement, without a job

1465
02:04:20,370 --> 02:04:25,510
performance description, without deliverables. We have nothing like that. So the public has nothing

1466
02:04:25,510 --> 02:04:30,550
to decide on what to do. It's your decision only so I'm a little bit of fault with that.

1467
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:31,670
Thank you.

1468
02:04:32,210 --> 02:04:35,290
Thank you, Mr. Wacker. Would anybody else like to come speak?

1469
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,960
The podium is open. The microphone is on.

1470
02:04:44,740 --> 02:04:49,200
Okay, seeing no one else. I want to call this a conclusion to the public hearing portion.

1471
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:55,160
I think Commissioner Bailey had some items he wanted to go over.

1472
02:05:02,710 --> 02:05:04,270
Item 32 adopting the budget.

1473
02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:05,590
Yes, sir.

1474
02:05:05,870 --> 02:05:06,010
Okay.

1475
02:05:06,170 --> 02:05:06,510
You don't mind?

1476
02:05:07,130 --> 02:05:07,310
Okay.

1477
02:05:07,890 --> 02:05:10,130
So this

1478
02:05:14,380 --> 02:05:16,640
statutorily, we've completed our public hearing.

1479
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:17,660
I'm assuming.

1480
02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:18,100
Okay.

1481
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:19,660
Public hearing on the tax rate.

1482
02:05:19,860 --> 02:05:20,080
Okay.

1483
02:05:20,660 --> 02:05:22,280
We're going to move on to agenda item 30.

1484
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:27,240
Public hearing to discuss the proposed 2023 tax rate for Rockwell County and all related issues.

1485
02:05:27,980 --> 02:05:33,980
And I would say again, I see the green light on, so the microphone is still active, so be careful when you walk up there.

1486
02:05:33,980 --> 02:05:44,320
But if anybody would like to make any comments, the proposed tax rate is 0.2760 per $100 of assessed value.

1487
02:05:51,220 --> 02:05:51,720
I'm sorry.

1488
02:05:52,220 --> 02:05:53,860
Come and come to the microphone and say something, Rich.

1489
02:05:58,950 --> 02:06:01,670
Decision states this to 2023 tax rate.

1490
02:06:02,170 --> 02:06:04,430
It's calendar year 2020.

1491
02:06:05,430 --> 02:06:08,990
Yeah, the whole system is designed to confuse everyone, Rich.

1492
02:06:10,290 --> 02:06:11,070
Thank you.

1493
02:06:11,070 --> 02:06:28,670
So seeing no one other than Rich for clarification, I'm going to move on to agenda item 31 public hearing to discuss the county clerk's archive plan FY2024 for the preservation and restoration of the county clerk's records archives and all related issues.

1494
02:06:29,770 --> 02:06:34,370
So again, I'm assuming this is a statutory obligation we have.

1495
02:06:39,470 --> 02:06:41,310
Okay, does anybody have any questions?

1496
02:06:41,310 --> 02:06:41,450
questions.

1497
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:51,500
Since you're not there, he's not lit up anyway. So no one, you couldn't hear

1498
02:06:51,500 --> 02:06:52,100
him. Yeah.

1499
02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:56,730
Does anybody have any questions?

1500
02:06:59,050 --> 02:07:01,430
We're in a public hearing agenda item 31.

1501
02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:04,790
No, it says public hearing does. He closed the public.

1502
02:07:11,300 --> 02:07:14,040
Oh, got it. Got it. Yep. That's

1503
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,100
Okay, so is there any of the public that would like to speak?

1504
02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:25,520
Thank you, Linda and Lisa, can Craig and Dester had in mean to leave the rest of the staff out.

1505
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:25,860
Thank you.

1506
02:07:26,620 --> 02:07:30,860
All right, seeing no one, we will close the public carry move on to agenda item number 32.

1507
02:07:31,060 --> 02:07:38,660
Discuss and act on adopting the Rockwell County budget for FY 2024 and take a record vote in all related issues.

1508
02:07:40,220 --> 02:07:41,140
Now I believe.

1509
02:07:41,140 --> 02:07:54,360
Yes sir. Thank you. I just have a couple of items that I want to briefly run through in

1510
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:58,260
each of these items have

1511
02:08:01,140 --> 02:08:03,860
already been approved by the court.

1512
02:08:06,730 --> 02:08:07,830
So it's

1513
02:08:12,090 --> 02:08:15,250
kind of obvious they

1514
02:08:15,250 --> 02:08:28,150
they were approved by a 3-2 or a 4-1 type vote but I still want to object to these certain

1515
02:08:28,150 --> 02:08:40,570
items and so I think over on page 3 the legal services line item having to deal with

1516
02:08:40,570 --> 02:08:50,730
about $100,000 that I am opposed to I think on page three also the

1517
02:08:50,730 --> 02:08:58,870
engineering the county engineering services in the amount of $150,000 I think

1518
02:08:58,870 --> 02:09:09,210
is probably insufficient in that we may have some disputes going along that

1519
02:09:09,210 --> 02:09:27,790
particular road. Also on page 7, the General Counsel in that $20,000 that I opposed to on page 38,

1520
02:09:27,790 --> 02:09:39,850
the overtime in the jail on the jail side and the sheriff's office of approximately $270,000.

1521
02:09:40,570 --> 02:09:54,970
And then on page 36 also the overtime back on the deputy side there.

1522
02:09:54,970 --> 02:10:08,890
So these are items that I had mentioned before that there's a, you know, we've got a roughly $50 million budget that

1523
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:19,920
commissioners have approved and I don't get my way either.

1524
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:31,160
So, but I do want to take a particular stand on those particular ones, and we'll be voting

1525
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:36,080
for the budget, sorry. Okay? That's all I have.

1526
02:10:36,860 --> 02:10:39,460
Thank you, Commissioner Bailey. Commissioners, anybody else have

1527
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:42,830
commissioners severe?

1528
02:10:43,570 --> 02:10:50,230
Yes. I just like the first of all, I think the new court, in a way we worked.

1529
02:10:50,230 --> 02:10:55,670
worked. I think we did a lot of work together. It was hard work, a lot of give and take.

1530
02:10:56,950 --> 02:11:02,310
I hope through the process, as I've done for 11 years and continue to do, there's a lot

1531
02:11:02,310 --> 02:11:10,490
of learning going on. And what we didn't see or didn't have time to go through this year,

1532
02:11:10,770 --> 02:11:14,870
I think next year you're going to be able to take a closer look. So thank you guys and

1533
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:17,470
and gals for your hard work on this.

1534
02:11:18,330 --> 02:11:20,070
But throughout the process of this hearing,

1535
02:11:20,070 --> 02:11:24,490
I have stated numerous times on several different things

1536
02:11:24,490 --> 02:11:26,770
that I didn't agree in the budget with.

1537
02:11:27,950 --> 02:11:30,530
I did not write them down like Dennis did.

1538
02:11:31,370 --> 02:11:34,250
However, if you go back and listen to our videos

1539
02:11:34,250 --> 02:11:37,370
on what we have, I think you will very easily find

1540
02:11:37,370 --> 02:11:40,130
the ones that I objected to.

1541
02:11:40,630 --> 02:11:43,430
And again, we're not up here to say

1542
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:47,450
we're all going to get what we want. We have a budget to come up with and a

1543
02:11:47,450 --> 02:11:53,950
number to work with at that budget. We did the best we could. Some of us won,

1544
02:11:54,110 --> 02:11:59,810
some of us lost. I don't look at really win lose. People that win is the

1545
02:11:59,810 --> 02:12:04,410
people, that's who we're fighting for, for the win. So throughout this process,

1546
02:12:04,410 --> 02:12:11,010
I said several items on the agenda that I did not like. However, I'm going to

1547
02:12:11,010 --> 02:12:23,530
I'm going to go back and I'm going to give one example of what I think is really, really gone over too far.

1548
02:12:25,710 --> 02:12:30,050
We have approved an attorney in this budget.

1549
02:12:30,590 --> 02:12:31,230
It's one.

1550
02:12:32,390 --> 02:12:36,670
We approved an attorney retainer in this budget.

1551
02:12:37,070 --> 02:12:37,450
That's two.

1552
02:12:37,450 --> 02:12:46,440
we have professional funds we can use for attorneys or we can use it for

1553
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:52,360
engineers or we can use for whatever we want there's a number in there and we

1554
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:59,060
have our own DA office that is by law has to has to support us has to support us

1555
02:12:59,060 --> 02:13:06,860
this is one example of four different attorney type fees that we're paying for

1556
02:13:06,860 --> 02:13:15,740
to turn. So, I just wanted to say that Craig, 11 years I've worked with you in

1557
02:13:16,300 --> 02:13:21,180
industry and in kind of your office for the other ones that were here before

1558
02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:26,120
them. I appreciate your service. I appreciate all you did. I know this is not a

1559
02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:30,820
good buy. This is not a see later. I know you're still going to be working for us.

1560
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:34,920
It's not going to be as in-depth. It's not going to be on a probably day-to-day

1561
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:40,960
basis as we have done it, but thank you, thank you, thank you for your service in which

1562
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:49,660
you've all done for us. And I just hope that we have very few citizens that come to talk

1563
02:13:49,660 --> 02:13:56,300
to us or to express their concerns about the budget. And when they do that, they're not

1564
02:13:56,300 --> 02:14:01,240
always favorable for us. And that's okay. That's why we're up here. We're up here to help

1565
02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:03,140
the citizen, that's why we think we can.

1566
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,880
Citizens are all not going to agree with us, some will, some won't.

1567
02:14:07,300 --> 02:14:13,260
But I do thank all the citizens that have taken the time to come out and express your concerns

1568
02:14:13,260 --> 02:14:18,840
about whatever portion of the budget or whatever you did or disagree with in this budget.

1569
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,860
I thank you all very much for attending these meetings.

1570
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:23,300
And that's all I have to say.

1571
02:14:23,540 --> 02:14:24,820
Thank you very much for your court.

1572
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:26,680
Thank you, Commissioner Severe.

1573
02:14:27,460 --> 02:14:30,540
I just want to say there is no fire marshal in this budget.

1574
02:14:30,540 --> 02:14:37,000
it. That was taken out. So in draft three and in the final draft there is no funding

1575
02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:44,580
for a fire marshal. And to quote Commissioner Bailey sometimes you lose. And I lost my

1576
02:14:44,580 --> 02:14:46,460
fire marshal but that's okay.

1577
02:14:49,300 --> 02:14:54,800
This has been a great learning experience for me. As the judges

1578
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:59,980
said a couple of different times, this is different than municipalities and the

1579
02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:29,160
So, it's been very eye opening and I too want to congratulate and thank my peers up here on court because there was many offices I went knocked on the door, especially to our more senior ones that have been on the court long, the longest and said, help me out, help me figure out something. And I appreciate the time they spent with me and to educate me on some of the things that I wasn't quite understanding. So, thank you to Cliff.

1580
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:30,900
and to Dennis for that.

1581
02:15:32,420 --> 02:15:38,020
When I wrote something down back over about a month and a half ago when we started this

1582
02:15:38,020 --> 02:15:43,380
process, I even did a little sheet for me to make sure I always stay focused but I really

1583
02:15:43,380 --> 02:15:48,760
wanted to take this position of looking at the budget and making sure that I was addressing

1584
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:54,840
from an economic stability or a sustainability standpoint for our county that what were each

1585
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:56,320
of the things we would be looking at.

1586
02:15:56,320 --> 02:16:02,240
and making sure that we were addressing all the critical needs that both the judge encountered

1587
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:09,400
and shared in the various drafts we've had and really trying to vet those and make sure

1588
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:14,460
that we were having a transparent budget process because I think that's important in the

1589
02:16:14,460 --> 02:16:17,080
climate, the governmental climate we're in right now.

1590
02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:24,080
And I wanted to address the population growth and maybe some of it is not as the percentages

1591
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:29,140
is that we have experienced in the previous years and what they may be, the

1592
02:16:29,140 --> 02:16:32,540
demographers may be saying are coming up in the next, you know, next three to

1593
02:16:32,540 --> 02:16:37,460
five years. But either way, we're behind the curve on some of these issues. And so

1594
02:16:37,460 --> 02:16:40,760
making sure that what we're looking at and some of the investments that are

1595
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:45,280
being made from the county and my opinion is the investments that are going to

1596
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:50,140
keep us and help us to continue to be efficient and reliable to the citizens of

1597
02:16:50,140 --> 02:16:57,240
the county and making sure that we maintain ourselves as a trusted leader among our constituents.

1598
02:16:57,640 --> 02:17:01,880
So all of those were things that I tried to make sure I took into consideration every

1599
02:17:01,880 --> 02:17:02,420
single time.

1600
02:17:02,580 --> 02:17:06,840
I was looking at these and the conversations we've had on the previous drafts.

1601
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:12,860
So I feel, as you asked me, I guess about a week ago, you said, how do you feel, Commissioner

1602
02:17:12,860 --> 02:17:13,300
Mackle?

1603
02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:15,700
And I said, well, I'm feeling that we're getting there, we're getting there.

1604
02:17:15,860 --> 02:17:20,120
And I do believe that there are some things that aren't so, you know, it's really not

1605
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:24,500
to win or lose. I mean, yes, there are things that we're more passionate about. But as long

1606
02:17:24,500 --> 02:17:29,940
as we take, as long as from my standpoint, I use that thought process. I feel like we

1607
02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:35,660
are moving in the right direction and feel good about the things that I have voted on

1608
02:17:35,660 --> 02:17:36,100
thus far.

1609
02:17:38,540 --> 02:17:43,480
Thank you, Commissioner Mikelick. Mr. Stacey, you have any summation or any comments?

1610
02:17:43,780 --> 02:17:50,980
I don't really other than the fact that I feel really good about the priorities that are in

1611
02:17:50,980 --> 02:17:56,040
this budget, I feel very good about the investment in the preservation of public safety and

1612
02:17:56,040 --> 02:17:58,560
the different things we're doing in the budget going forward.

1613
02:17:59,980 --> 02:18:03,920
I appreciate your commitment to a new revenue rate going forward.

1614
02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:08,860
I think that there's a lot of things that are moving in the right direction, a lot of things

1615
02:18:08,860 --> 02:18:17,820
that are being thought about, preserved, and invested in the changing times that we're

1616
02:18:17,820 --> 02:18:19,080
going to be dealing with.

1617
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:27,640
I think that when you look at the tax rate, which I guess

1618
02:18:27,640 --> 02:18:35,040
is the next thing, as opposed to what we're spending, what we're raising, the new revenue

1619
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:39,260
rate is as opposed to the tax rate that we're passing and you look at where that money is

1620
02:18:39,260 --> 02:18:43,380
is going, almost all of it is going into public safety district attorney.

1621
02:18:45,380 --> 02:18:53,940
And I think that I was kind of to Commissioner McElick's standpoint probably to you, Frank,

1622
02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:55,920
people that have done city budgets.

1623
02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:59,280
This is a completely different animal than a city budget.

1624
02:19:01,310 --> 02:19:06,640
The commissioners sit in a very strange spot, I think, because there are state,

1625
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:19,060
The statutory mandates of things we have to do that the state government tells us, and then there's also the will of the people, and we're kind of in the middle of what we have to do versus what the people, you know, where we are with that.

1626
02:19:19,380 --> 02:19:32,380
So just real quick, I mean there's a $34 million increase investment in our public safety and district attorney in this budget.

1627
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:38,420
There's a, when you look at how much more money has been spent in these different departments

1628
02:19:38,420 --> 02:19:43,420
and how much money we're raising, you can see when you look at the courts, the supporting

1629
02:19:43,420 --> 02:19:50,320
documentation, public safety, this budget, although there are two or three line items that

1630
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:55,040
are continually repeated back to us as for some of the people that I don't like this

1631
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:58,600
and I don't like that, this budget is a public safety budget.

1632
02:19:58,600 --> 02:20:03,500
This budget is a reinvestment into what we're doing for the

1633
02:20:03,500 --> 02:20:09,240
consumables, the JP courts, the district court, the jury fees, the different

1634
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:12,420
things that we're having to do through the whole criminal justice system.

1635
02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:21,560
In our previous budget, this whole system was, what was it, 62% of the budget and now it's 65%.

1636
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:27,420
There's a $2 million more in these departments than there was in the previous budget.

1637
02:20:27,420 --> 02:20:54,660
So I think that when you look at this increase in public safety citizen focus and what we're trying to deliver to keep our community safe, to keep our community going forward, I think that while we can nitpick at why are you doing this and why are you doing that the overall budget, where these dollars are being spent the most significant amount of dollars are being spent right back in our duty and our duty is to the criminal justice and the safety of this community as a county.

1638
02:20:54,660 --> 02:21:01,220
So, I'm proud of the direction we went, I don't like the winners and losers but there

1639
02:21:01,220 --> 02:21:05,600
are things that I try to get done that I couldn't get done in this budget cycle that I'm

1640
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:10,140
going to try next time and the next time and to get that done.

1641
02:21:10,620 --> 02:21:17,820
I will say that I did do a scientific survey of precinct 4 and asked the people that put

1642
02:21:17,820 --> 02:21:22,680
me in this chair what their budget priorities are and I would say this budget aligns 100%

1643
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:28,460
And all the way down from top to bottom with what the people are precinct for are facing.

1644
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:33,820
What we're wanting to do, all the way down to General Counsel, funding of professional services.

1645
02:21:34,180 --> 02:21:39,060
That was asked 80% of my folks said the county needs to do more.

1646
02:21:39,460 --> 02:21:45,940
We need to go in that direction because we're the precinct that's being overrun by muds and developers.

1647
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:49,880
Precinct three is as well, but I'm saying we're seeing that firsthand.

1648
02:21:49,880 --> 02:21:53,440
And so I think that this is a good step on the right direction.

1649
02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:59,680
I'm very proud of the work we did, and I can't thank Cliff and Miss Enough as a guiding factor through this process.

1650
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:08,620
And I've enjoyed the dialogue, I love the process, and I'm going to miss seeing everyone two days a week in this room.

1651
02:22:09,180 --> 02:22:15,100
And so anyways, that's what I have to say, just keeping my reputation as a commission who talks too much.

1652
02:22:15,100 --> 02:22:18,960
so could I could I ask quickly for clarification you had indicated that public

1653
02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:24,780
public enforcement got 34 million the sheriff may be getting a lot of money I

1654
02:22:24,780 --> 02:22:30,900
didn't say 34 million he did say he did say 34 but he meant 3.4 that is totally

1655
02:22:30,900 --> 02:22:34,670
my fault it's 3.4 that's what this like I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't

1656
02:22:34,670 --> 02:22:39,270
missing about. No, no, no, there's not an extra 31 million out there.

1657
02:22:48,010 --> 02:22:52,710
Hey now. So commissioner, did you want to go over this? Well, he just didn't.

1658
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:59,170
No, he did. I'm a visual person as you guys all know. And as I begin to ask

1659
02:22:59,170 --> 02:23:04,130
questions and trying to do my rock wall math on a number of things, that's when it

1660
02:23:04,130 --> 02:23:09,810
came out that truly a large percentage of the budget, both, you know, in the previous

1661
02:23:09,810 --> 02:23:14,870
years as well as this one. And it's like, what, yeah, everybody. So, I mean, that's

1662
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:19,890
part of the quality of life that people come and move here for as well. And it became

1663
02:23:19,890 --> 02:23:25,130
real evident as I started doing numbers and then random died by John to make sure I wasn't

1664
02:23:25,130 --> 02:23:30,350
missing anything. And we both concurred that this is a solid. And we were based on what he said.

1665
02:23:30,350 --> 02:23:32,870
We were both very pleased with where where the focus has been.

1666
02:23:33,850 --> 02:23:40,970
All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, everyone. This has been a little bit longer.

1667
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:47,890
You know, your notes go back a month ago. I was neck deep in this several months ago,

1668
02:23:47,890 --> 02:23:53,710
but have enjoyed, enjoyed it. And so we said here in this courtroom, the Historical Commission did

1669
02:23:54,490 --> 02:24:00,710
part of their lecture series. Gosh, what is it? Last week. Yeah, Friday.

1670
02:24:00,710 --> 02:24:06,850
that was 75 years of county judges and they asked me what my regret was, you know

1671
02:24:06,850 --> 02:24:10,610
of course only being on the job nine months I told them my biggest regret is

1672
02:24:10,610 --> 02:24:15,750
having to say no to county employees who are really good people who just want

1673
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:20,750
to serve the citizens more and I have to be the person that stands in there and

1674
02:24:21,450 --> 02:24:25,470
looks at the taxes the citizens are paying and what they're going to get and

1675
02:24:26,130 --> 02:24:30,110
sometimes I have to look at people who are trying to do really good things and

1676
02:24:30,110 --> 02:24:32,190
and say, no, we can't do that.

1677
02:24:32,630 --> 02:24:36,270
So that was and still remains my biggest disappointment,

1678
02:24:36,570 --> 02:24:39,390
but that's part of the job.

1679
02:24:39,790 --> 02:24:40,750
That's why I sit here.

1680
02:24:41,490 --> 02:24:45,170
My job is to say no when the answer needs to be no.

1681
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:49,730
So anyway, with that, this is going to be a roll call vote,

1682
02:24:49,730 --> 02:24:53,050
but I believe I still need a motion to take the roll call vote.

1683
02:24:54,430 --> 02:24:55,450
Is that correct?

1684
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:57,290
Can I get some legal guidance there?

1685
02:24:57,290 --> 02:24:58,330
I

1686
02:25:01,590 --> 02:25:03,570
agree, I think I can roll call vote.

1687
02:25:03,810 --> 02:25:08,190
So I'm going to go ahead and make the motion that we adopt the Rockwall County budget,

1688
02:25:08,610 --> 02:25:14,530
vinyl draft version for FY2024, in all related issues.

1689
02:25:14,990 --> 02:25:15,790
I will second.

1690
02:25:16,030 --> 02:25:19,510
So that is my motion, that is a second by Commissioner Stacey.

1691
02:25:20,190 --> 02:25:22,350
I'm going to start down here on precinct one.

1692
02:25:22,730 --> 02:25:24,130
Commissioner McLeod.

1693
02:25:24,650 --> 02:25:25,150
Speaker votes aye.

1694
02:25:25,550 --> 02:25:26,210
Commissioner McLeod.

1695
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:28,230
Commissioner Bailey.

1696
02:25:28,530 --> 02:25:28,850
Speaker.

1697
02:25:28,850 --> 02:25:30,830
Commissioner Stacey, aye.

1698
02:25:31,410 --> 02:25:32,570
County Judge votes aye.

1699
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:38,930
So thank you everyone that will wrap up agenda item 32, agenda item 33.

1700
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:44,810
Discuss and act on adopting the Rockwell County tax rate for 2023, physically year 2024,

1701
02:25:44,950 --> 02:25:46,630
and take a record vote.

1702
02:25:47,650 --> 02:25:50,310
I don't believe there's a lot of discussion here.

1703
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:57,690
Stay in the same, I don't see how we can change it.

1704
02:25:57,690 --> 02:26:03,390
And that's staying the same as 0.2760 per $100 of assessed value.

1705
02:26:04,330 --> 02:26:05,950
I'd like a motion, yes, sir.

1706
02:26:12,500 --> 02:26:22,460
That the county tax rate becomes 0.2760.

1707
02:26:23,480 --> 02:26:25,560
Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

1708
02:26:26,940 --> 02:26:28,380
I'll second that motion.

1709
02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:30,180
Second by Commissioner Macklic.

1710
02:26:30,180 --> 02:26:37,540
All right, so let's go Commissioner precinct one I Commissioner precinct two I Commissioner precinct three

1711
02:26:37,540 --> 02:26:42,840
I Commissioner precinct four I and county judge votes. I thank you everyone

1712
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:50,300
This brings us to agenda item 34 discussing act on approving the county clerks archive plan for FY2024 for the preservation and

1713
02:26:50,300 --> 02:26:54,100
Restoration of the county clerks records archives and all related issues

1714
02:26:54,100 --> 02:26:59,740
They'll move not even going to make your come up here again. I got a motion by Commissioner Bailey

1715
02:26:59,740 --> 02:27:05,540
They get by Commissioner severe all those in favor say aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously

1716
02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:09,260
brings us to agenda item 35 discuss and act on

1717
02:27:09,260 --> 02:27:16,680
Designating a day or days of the week on which the commissioners County Commissioner's Court shall convene in a regular term each month during the next

1718
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:24,900
fiscal year pursuant to Texas local government code 81.005, parenthetical A, and all related issues.

1719
02:27:26,260 --> 02:27:30,820
We have the authority to move the meeting to whatever day we want.

1720
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:38,240
I've seen no reason to change it unless somebody has got a reason.

1721
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:45,460
I mean, you know, there's back to our winners and losers.

1722
02:27:45,900 --> 02:27:47,420
If people, I can't come on Tuesdays.

1723
02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:48,900
Well, I come on Monday when we do Monday.

1724
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:50,360
And then somebody can't come on Monday.

1725
02:27:50,380 --> 02:27:51,420
But I could come on Tuesday.

1726
02:27:51,420 --> 02:27:53,940
And I think we've made it where everybody can watch online.

1727
02:27:54,320 --> 02:27:55,480
And it's recorded.

1728
02:27:55,780 --> 02:27:58,300
We're being very transparent and reaching out.

1729
02:27:58,880 --> 02:28:03,720
So I would suggest that we leave it as it is.

1730
02:28:03,720 --> 02:28:12,180
But my motion then judge would be that the commissioners court would meet on the second and fourth

1731
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:15,100
Tuesday of each month.

1732
02:28:15,820 --> 02:28:22,480
Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey, second by Commissioner Severe and you further comments or questions all those in favor say aye

1733
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:25,000
Aye any opposed it passes unanimously

1734
02:28:25,860 --> 02:28:31,700
This brings us to discuss an act on approving Rockwall County employee holidays for the calendar year

1735
02:28:31,700 --> 02:28:34,520
year 2024 and all related issues.

1736
02:28:38,730 --> 02:28:47,230
So is this, is this a, we pick the ones that we've just traditionally have done is

1737
02:28:47,230 --> 02:28:51,690
how we get to these check marks because this is quite an extensive list of holidays.

1738
02:28:52,790 --> 02:29:02,050
It is an extensive list and, yeah, I want some of them are state, Texas Independence Day.

1739
02:29:03,010 --> 02:29:17,010
Some of them are federal mandates, June 10th now, and there's nothing on this list that I see that's outrageous.

1740
02:29:19,290 --> 02:29:24,750
Or we haven't traditionally taken as a county holiday.

1741
02:29:25,850 --> 02:29:32,590
And just for the people listening at home who may not have the agenda, it is just standard New Year's Day, Martin Luther King Day,

1742
02:29:32,590 --> 02:29:45,070
Presidents Day, Texas Independence Day, Good Friday, Memorial Day, Juneteenth Independence Day, Labor Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas are what we're proposing as the county holidays.

1743
02:29:46,670 --> 02:29:58,780
So, though, the only federal holiday that I saw for whatever reason is Columbus Day, but I don't know why we've just traditionally skipped over that.

1744
02:29:58,780 --> 02:29:59,960
that seems like a...

1745
02:30:00,300 --> 02:30:30,280
I have no idea. I was just looking through the list and saying, well, you know, when you look at all these federal holidays, we take all of them just about except Columbus Day. The banks are closed. So, I mean, it's just a curious. I'm just curious as to why is there is there a reason why? Is there a number we're trying to get to? It was just it was just never selected that way, but that's fair enough. You know, it could be changed, I'm sure, but it's never been brought up that way.

1746
02:30:33,060 --> 02:30:39,620
30 plus. Yeah, I mean, this list is over for you. That's true. Not very many. Is there a pick one?

1747
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:47,220
It's 400. I'm going to be the bad guy here and say let's leave it alone and let's talk about it next

1748
02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:52,980
year. I'm just asking if once that first domino falls and then why not Valentine's Day?

1749
02:30:53,700 --> 02:31:01,220
That's not a fairer holiday. Well, I understand, but I'm going to say let's leave it and we'll discuss

1750
02:31:01,220 --> 02:31:07,120
that next year. Okay well make a motion we approve this as presented.

1751
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,080
Got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

1752
02:31:11,460 --> 02:31:13,680
I'll go ahead and second. So Commissioner

1753
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:18,480
Stacey has the motion. I've offered the second all those in favor say aye. Any

1754
02:31:18,480 --> 02:31:23,800
opposed? It passes unanimously. Agenda item 37 discussing act on approving the

1755
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:31,340
FY2024 sheriffs and constables fees pursuant to Texas local government code 118.131

1756
02:31:31,340 --> 02:31:34,060
in parenthetical B and all related issues.

1757
02:31:34,520 --> 02:31:37,260
This says sheriff, but I believe desk trees.

1758
02:31:38,180 --> 02:31:40,780
Yes, Judge, I already spoke to the sheriff about this.

1759
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:43,940
We're requesting or I'm requesting that this get postponed

1760
02:31:43,940 --> 02:31:45,140
to the 26th.

1761
02:31:45,180 --> 02:31:47,020
We have until October 1st to approve this.

1762
02:31:47,300 --> 02:31:48,800
And there is a concern about one of the fees

1763
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:50,460
that I need to talk to the sheriff's office

1764
02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:51,720
and the constable about.

1765
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:52,860
Got it.

1766
02:31:52,980 --> 02:31:55,360
I knew there was something Elisa came and told me

1767
02:31:55,360 --> 02:31:58,580
we were pulling, but that was different.

1768
02:31:58,580 --> 02:32:03,840
Okay, all right. Well, that's that's still coming because I was a bit I've been looking for my notes.

1769
02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:11,640
So we will just leave 37 as it sits and revisit it when when the time is right.

1770
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:17,520
Yeah, it should be the time will be right. I think on the very next agenda. So the 26 should be good if

1771
02:32:17,520 --> 02:32:22,260
we want to go ahead and put it on there. Okay, perfect. Do we need a formal motion or can we just

1772
02:32:22,260 --> 02:32:27,940
get ahead and not and say we're going to review it on the next agenda? No, we don't need a motion.

1773
02:32:27,940 --> 02:32:33,740
okay brings us to agenda item 38 consent agenda. I just want to make a quick comment

1774
02:32:33,740 --> 02:32:40,300
I want to thank the county clerk's office because there are six meeting minutes on

1775
02:32:40,300 --> 02:32:44,580
this consent agenda and that is a lot of work to catch up with all these budget meetings.

1776
02:32:45,320 --> 02:32:50,860
So I just want to say thank you to to Jennifer and her staff and whoever put all of that together

1777
02:32:50,860 --> 02:32:57,160
is just that that's a lot of meetings to and a lot of words and a lot of work. Yes sir.

1778
02:32:57,160 --> 02:33:03,040
So I just want to put that, but with that I want to make a motion we approve the consent agenda as presented a through I.

1779
02:33:03,260 --> 02:33:04,780
An motion by Commissioner Stacey.

1780
02:33:05,420 --> 02:33:06,120
Say it.

1781
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:08,480
Second by Commissioner Bailey, all those in favor say aye.

1782
02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:08,960
Aye.

1783
02:33:09,300 --> 02:33:09,920
Any opposed?

1784
02:33:10,220 --> 02:33:10,920
It passes unanimously.

1785
02:33:11,300 --> 02:33:14,920
It brings us to agenda item 39, property acquisitions, dispositions.

1786
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:18,740
Make a motion and that we approve property acquisition, disposition.

1787
02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:20,300
Hold on.

1788
02:33:20,420 --> 02:33:20,700
Hold on.

1789
02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:21,160
Lisa.

1790
02:33:21,160 --> 02:33:30,140
This is where I need to pull item 39 a and see at this time removing

1791
02:33:30,140 --> 02:33:35,600
that out of your motion that would be awesome well I don't think you quite

1792
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:44,340
finished that motion so I go back I'll remain I would draw that motion I make

1793
02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:55,360
a motion that we approve property acquisitions and dispositions. B, C, D, E, G, H, I, and J.

1794
02:33:55,660 --> 02:34:02,330
I'm pulling F and Lisa wanted to pull C. Oh, do you say C2? I'm sorry.

1795
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:07,510
Yeah, since we

1796
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:11,010
didn't have a second, let's go ahead and redo it. Okay, let me redo this motion. I like

1797
02:34:11,010 --> 02:34:21,930
We have to make a motion that we approve property acquisition, just positions, B-D-E-G-H-I-J, and I wonder to pull F.

1798
02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:23,050
Okay.

1799
02:34:23,510 --> 02:34:25,250
We got a motion by Commissioner Severe.

1800
02:34:25,890 --> 02:34:26,590
I will second.

1801
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:29,470
Got a second by Commissioner Stacey. Any questions or comments?

1802
02:34:30,290 --> 02:34:31,710
All those in favor say aye.

1803
02:34:32,010 --> 02:34:32,230
Aye.

1804
02:34:32,650 --> 02:34:34,250
Any opposed? It passes unanimously.

1805
02:34:34,610 --> 02:34:38,330
It brings us to agenda item number 40, non-emergency budget transfers.

1806
02:34:42,770 --> 02:34:51,610
Does that make, when we pull it, do we have to, do we go back to F at that point, or is it just pulled from the agenda?

1807
02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:57,520
Well, I would say that it's been pulled.

1808
02:34:57,920 --> 02:35:01,320
You could discuss it again if you want to, or you could simply leave it as pulled.

1809
02:35:01,720 --> 02:35:06,480
I don't know if there's discussion to be had on those three items that were pulled or not.

1810
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:18,640
Well, A and C are pulled for sure, but commissioners severe pulled F so did we want to discuss F or is it just your intentions to just let and revisit it at a later date?

1811
02:35:18,840 --> 02:35:21,080
That's what I want to do. Revisit at a later date.

1812
02:35:21,300 --> 02:35:23,260
Okay. Okay. I just wanted to make sure.

1813
02:35:23,500 --> 02:35:24,340
Yep. Okay. All right.

1814
02:35:24,540 --> 02:35:24,860
I'm sorry.

1815
02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:26,160
No, that's okay.

1816
02:35:26,620 --> 02:35:30,740
Okay. So back to agenda item 40 non-emergency budget transfers.

1817
02:35:30,740 --> 02:35:30,880
First,

1818
02:35:33,890 --> 02:35:36,950
I will entertain a motion if somebody is so inclined.

1819
02:35:37,250 --> 02:35:50,090
I will make a motion that we approve, as presented, that's 2023-21, 2023-222, 2023-23-23-24, 2023-25, 2025-20-23-26.

1820
02:35:50,610 --> 02:35:51,390
I'll second that motion.

1821
02:35:51,470 --> 02:35:55,450
I've got a motion by Commissioner Stacey, a second by Commissioner Macklic, all those in favor say aye.

1822
02:35:55,610 --> 02:35:55,950
Aye.

1823
02:35:56,270 --> 02:35:56,830
Any opposed?

1824
02:35:57,150 --> 02:35:57,890
It passes unanimously.

1825
02:35:57,890 --> 02:36:02,190
Obviously, brings us to agenda item 41 approval of accounts, bills, claims, and pay

1826
02:36:02,190 --> 02:36:02,550
roll.

1827
02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:15,040
I'm submitting to the court paid claims they amount of $590,532.82 and I asked for the

1828
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:15,740
court's approval.

1829
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:18,420
We'll move.

1830
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:19,900
Got a motion by Commissioner Bailey.

1831
02:36:20,380 --> 02:36:20,680
Second.

1832
02:36:20,900 --> 02:36:22,080
Second by Commissioner Macklic.

1833
02:36:22,180 --> 02:36:23,220
All those in favor say aye.

1834
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:23,860
Aye.

1835
02:36:24,200 --> 02:36:24,740
Any opposed?

1836
02:36:25,060 --> 02:36:25,840
It passes unanimously.

1837
02:36:28,300 --> 02:36:37,280
I'll submit unpaid claims and they might have $936,360.80 and I ask for the court's approval.

1838
02:36:38,580 --> 02:36:39,580
Move to approve.

1839
02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:41,060
An emotion by Commissioner Stacey.

1840
02:36:41,400 --> 02:36:44,160
Second by Commissioner Severe, all those in favor say aye.

1841
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:44,700
Aye.

1842
02:36:45,180 --> 02:36:45,600
Any opposed?

1843
02:36:45,860 --> 02:36:46,540
It passes unanimously.

1844
02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:48,820
I have two payroll reports.

1845
02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:49,860
I'll do them separately.

1846
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:55,000
The first payroll report I'm submitting to you is the pay for the pay period of August,

1847
02:36:55,000 --> 02:37:05,240
Yes, for the pay period ending August 19th, 2023, in the amount of $945,385.91, and I ask for the court to approval.

1848
02:37:08,740 --> 02:37:09,820
I'll move to approve.

1849
02:37:10,140 --> 02:37:11,860
We got a motion by Commissioner Stacey.

1850
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:13,860
I'll second that.

1851
02:37:13,900 --> 02:37:16,040
Got a second by Commissioner Macklic, any further comments?

1852
02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:18,980
All those in favor say aye.

1853
02:37:19,400 --> 02:37:19,580
Aye.

1854
02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:20,580
Any opposed?

1855
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:21,220
Aye.

1856
02:37:21,540 --> 02:37:22,480
Passes four to one.

1857
02:37:23,320 --> 02:37:38,900
I'll submit to the Court the payroll report number two for the pay period to ending September of 2nd, 2023 in the amount of $946,554.47 and ask for the Court's approval.

1858
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:48,620
Move to approve. Motion by Commissioner Stacey. Second by Commissioner Severe. Any further comments or questions? All those in favor say aye.

1859
02:37:48,620 --> 02:37:50,600
Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye.

1860
02:37:50,940 --> 02:37:52,000
It passes 4 to 1.

1861
02:37:53,020 --> 02:37:57,020
All right. So, having nothing on executive session,

1862
02:37:57,220 --> 02:37:58,960
this brings us to Commissioner Court reports.

1863
02:37:59,460 --> 02:38:02,400
I have one. I'd like to make the commissioners aware of.

1864
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:08,960
Last Friday, September 8 was the deadline for us to receive submissions

1865
02:38:08,960 --> 02:38:12,760
in regards to the strategic plan and the prospective consultants.

1866
02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:23,260
and we did not receive two and I would like to share with you guys that I want to review

1867
02:38:23,260 --> 02:38:29,740
and see if we can extend that because there were one of the sources that was used.

1868
02:38:30,100 --> 02:38:37,940
There were 19 companies that did download our RFQ but only two of those 19 submitted something.

1869
02:38:37,940 --> 02:38:43,900
Okay, so that that that causes me a little bit of, you know, want to do a little bit more investigating and

1870
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:45,760
so I'd like to

1871
02:38:46,480 --> 02:38:51,240
Ask you guys to give me a little bit of time and by our next meeting. I'll give you an update and

1872
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:56,660
What the recommendation may be as far as extending the deadline on to this

1873
02:38:57,780 --> 02:39:02,480
All right, the deadline expo the deadline's already expired. Did last Friday

1874
02:39:02,480 --> 02:39:05,700
Yes, excuse me and you want to give us

1875
02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:10,580
come back the next court to tell us how long you want to extend it. So you

1876
02:39:10,580 --> 02:39:15,220
already be about three weeks. I just got the the the two that were submitted

1877
02:39:15,220 --> 02:39:21,320
were on my desk yesterday. Okay, and so I we do have two two submissions but

1878
02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:26,500
but I did look at the the sources and since there were others that did

1879
02:39:26,500 --> 02:39:31,980
download it and we know that one in particular needed an additional time and

1880
02:39:31,980 --> 02:39:34,380
and we were not able to extend the time, okay?

1881
02:39:35,460 --> 02:39:37,040
And, but it just seems like for something

1882
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:39,980
this big of a project I'd really like to have,

1883
02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:42,740
and it was our thought that we would have

1884
02:39:42,740 --> 02:39:46,220
at least four or five to look at.

1885
02:39:46,440 --> 02:39:47,680
And so we just have two guys,

1886
02:39:47,780 --> 02:39:50,540
and this is a big project that we are wanting to do.

1887
02:39:50,940 --> 02:39:53,640
But I have one question, what you just said,

1888
02:39:54,580 --> 02:39:58,340
you know of one that said they didn't have enough time,

1889
02:39:59,080 --> 02:40:00,660
shouldn't be contacted, her.

1890
02:40:00,660 --> 02:40:05,180
right and they I turned them over to the committee not to after they

1891
02:40:05,180 --> 02:40:09,780
contacted and contacted her she did they did they contacted the auditor well

1892
02:40:09,780 --> 02:40:15,640
I guess I never got any requests for an extension from any vendor did you

1893
02:40:15,640 --> 02:40:21,060
speak with Chris Lynch about it he should be speaking to her about it Chris

1894
02:40:21,060 --> 02:40:24,680
did that's I call Chris because I was like I can't tell you any I can't do this you

1895
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:29,160
can't talk no I think I told Chris to have them contact me but I never

1896
02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:33,660
They did not contact you, because I spoke to you, so Chris told me he was

1897
02:40:33,660 --> 02:40:43,240
but I would just recommend that you put in your RFQ that the court can deny all

1898
02:40:43,240 --> 02:40:48,380
submittals and do but you would have to do the whole process all over again.

1899
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:55,000
You would not be able to at this time to extend a deadline that's already been

1900
02:40:55,000 --> 02:41:03,320
pass. But if you so wished we could put it back out for bid but you'd have to deny the

1901
02:41:03,320 --> 02:41:07,920
bids that were received and then right. And I'm just not prepared to say one way or

1902
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:11,640
the other just having gotten the two the two and because they're both pretty big bids so

1903
02:41:11,640 --> 02:41:14,720
I have not had the time to look through them as of today.

1904
02:41:18,480 --> 02:41:19,220
Okay. All right.

1905
02:41:19,800 --> 02:41:25,320
Mr. Smith. I just have a couple of things. A new hope Baptist Church 164 anniversary was an

1906
02:41:25,320 --> 02:41:27,400
awesome weekend that everyone had a good time.

1907
02:41:28,760 --> 02:41:31,460
I would just if everyone can mark their calendars,

1908
02:41:31,720 --> 02:41:34,160
it will be 165 next year,

1909
02:41:34,220 --> 02:41:35,560
which would be a pretty cool thing.

1910
02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:37,820
And I'm sure they're gonna do it right.

1911
02:41:38,200 --> 02:41:42,380
So that is a pretty cool thing if they have going out there

1912
02:41:42,840 --> 02:41:48,100
and just a testament to our Lord and Savior as well

1913
02:41:48,100 --> 02:41:50,640
that there could be the second longest,

1914
02:41:51,400 --> 02:41:53,720
continuous African-American church in the state of Texas.

1915
02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:56,340
as it's older than this county is pretty remarkable

1916
02:41:56,340 --> 02:41:57,740
and it's right there in Royce City.

1917
02:41:58,420 --> 02:41:59,700
And then I also want to point out

1918
02:41:59,700 --> 02:42:01,260
that Celebrate Fate is Saturday.

1919
02:42:02,900 --> 02:42:04,980
This is in the evening, like five to nine

1920
02:42:04,980 --> 02:42:05,740
or something like that.

1921
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:07,160
And I think they're showing a movie afterwards,

1922
02:42:07,180 --> 02:42:09,560
but Celebrate Fate is a pretty cool thing.

1923
02:42:09,700 --> 02:42:11,380
Lots of vendors, lots of things going on

1924
02:42:11,380 --> 02:42:12,640
and awesome fireworks show.

1925
02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:14,760
So if you're able to make it, come out to Fate,

1926
02:42:14,940 --> 02:42:15,640
we'd love to see you.

1927
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:18,540
Yep, I can verify it goes from five to eight,

1928
02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:20,160
at eight to eight, 30 is fireworks

1929
02:42:20,160 --> 02:42:22,200
and then after that is a movie.

1930
02:42:23,720 --> 02:42:34,620
Yeah, so commissioners, it might be cool. We can always help with anything else. If not, 1156, we are adjourned.