[0:02] Okay, we are live on two and I will call
to order. Abby is running late. She will
[0:09] be here
for her once she comes in the door. Um,
[0:15] all right. Public forum. Is anybody here
for anything outside the agenda?
[0:24] » We got two folks. Uh Keith Caspar, a
district representative for
[0:27] Congresswoman Ashley Hson from Wateroo
office. Thought I'd pop up, say hello,
[0:31] see how you guys are doing and just uh
wanted to say hello.
[0:36] » Hello.
>> Thanks for being here.
[0:37] » Yeah.
>> Thank you.
[0:40] » All right. I will entertain a motion to
approve the minutes from the previous
[0:45] socly.
[0:48] Any other discussion on the minutes?
Hearing none. All in favor? opposed.
[0:54] Motion carries down just your test.
Okay, great. Uh
[1:01] I'll entertain a motion for bills
payment.
[1:05] » Okay. A motion from B to pay the bills.
Second from Tracy. Any discussion on the
[1:08] bills?
>> No.
[1:10] » Nothing. All in favor?
>> Opposed? Motion carried unanimously.
[1:16] All right. Right into the agenda here.
uh trees here for that. So, what we got
[1:22] for us today?
>> Well, um in April when my daughter had a
[1:27] shower, the trees were thriving in my
yard and I had the water tower in the
[1:34] backyard. Well, in May, [clears throat]
everything died. The lawn, two trees,
[1:42] and one side of my um crab apple tree is
dead. And
[1:50] I'm pretty sure it's from the water
tower.
[1:55] » So, would there be anything in the water
tower to cause anything to anything?
[1:58] What do we do over there?
>> The only thing that happened at that
[2:01] time would have been cleaning the inside
of it. And the only thing they do there
[2:03] is water and chlorine.
>> That's just on the inside.
[2:07] » That is on the inside. And it drains out
the west side.
[2:12] So, it's not like it was
>> full with 50,000 gallons and they
[2:15] flushed it. It was a couple thousand.
Okay.
[2:19] » I talked to the DNR back when you first
said something and they said that the
[2:25] only thing this could be would would be
like a surge in chlorine. But he said
[2:31] nothing makes sense. Why didn't your
drafts die or why didn't any other trees
[2:34] around there die? So he that was what he
told me because there's trees around the
[2:39] water towers.
>> There was but like any other trees
[2:41] around any other property. And there's
still another live one. You got a maple
[2:44] tree on the north side of your house.
Yeah, that one. [clears throat]
[2:48] » It was just must have been like from the
wind. Yeah. You know that.
[2:52] » I have no idea.
>> I don't know. But the trees were
[2:56] thriving,
>> right?
[2:57] » And then all of a sudden they quit.
>> Did you get a soil sample or anything?
[3:01] Like just to see what was going on.
>> The one of the tree guys that I talked
[3:06] to, he he says it had to be a chlorine
surge.
[3:10] » Yeah.
>> Like a cloud that came over.
[3:14] » And they used powder chlorine inside. So
there would be no air deal. It would
[3:18] have been dissolved in the water by
then. It should have been absorbed into
[3:22] the grass right there. So that's all I
got. I got nothing to prove that we did
[3:27] or didn't. That's why I was asking about
the soil sample.
[3:32] » So you did have an arbur take a look at
it.
[3:35] » No.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.
[3:42] » So what can we do? Can we have a tree?
Can we have the Can we have a tree to
[3:48] look at? Like
>> I have no idea.
[3:52] Is there one or two?
>> Two.
[3:54] » Two. Okay. Like I drove by the other day
and looked like there was two there. And
[3:57] what what are they? Do you know?
>> They're locust trees.
[3:59] » They're locust. Okay.
>> And why does it explain why all of a
[4:04] sudden in April it was
>> thriving?
[4:08] All of a sudden it died. And then
there's parts of, you know, like my
[4:13] garden
>> dead all of a sudden.
[4:16] » The same thing.
[clears throat]
[4:20] » You the same thing, Mike.
>> Okay.
[4:22] » I think I have a bunch of Japanese
beetles so things.
[4:29] » Gotcha.
It seemed like this year plants that
[4:33] were thriving last year didn't really do
so this year.
[4:39] Do we use an arborist for anything?
>> We use Dan Dailyaly tech for most of our
[4:44] trees.
>> Okay.
[4:45] » I think you need to take some sort of
sample of the ground or tree or
[4:48] something. I mean, I don't know. That's
my opinion.
[4:51] » Can we have somebody look at it?
>> That's what I'm trying to figure out who
[4:56] where
>> not really an arist.
[5:00] » I know there's a guy.
>> It's been too late. It's already gone.
[5:03] You know, [clears throat] whatever.
>> Kevin is up there already.
[5:09] samples.
>> There's companies I'm sure
[5:17] » this is from last year. Quick Google
search figure out you could do a sample.
[5:22] So
>> this is Oh no, this is from 2021.
[5:31] Can you see that from here? [laughter]
>> I'm just I'm visual visualizing it for
[5:36] myself.
>> Yeah. So, it's it's this one here,
[5:38] right? And there's it's this one here.
>> Is
[5:42] » this one's still there?
>> I can't see that one.
[5:46] » No, there's only
>> There's
[5:49] Yeah, this picture is 5 years old.
>> The ratio that
[5:52] » we lost so much.
>> Yeah, I was Well, for those that don't
[5:56] know, the Google came through last year
right after the ratio, which I guess
[5:59] that was
>> coincidence. So, I was hoping that that
[6:02] was the picture that was on here.
>> It was like the day after.
[6:04] » It was the morning after. Yeah.
>> Was it really?
[6:07] » Yes.
>> Yeah. So, if you go through town on on
[6:09] Google Maps, you can see the storm
damage.
[6:12] » I was kind of hoping I could see.
>> So, two years ago, we had trees taken
[6:17] down.
>> Yeah, that's right.
[6:18] » So, this Yeah, this picture's all over.
I'm just again just trying to figure out
[6:21] where that Where's that crab apple at?
>> Crab apple's back behind the um garage
[6:27] » over here. Okay.
>> It's an alleyway.
[6:29] » Yep, I see it.
>> Yeah. Can you trim that tree up there?
[6:32] Is that your tree or is that Sever's
tree?
[6:34] » Where? One on the corner of that alley
that hangs golf
[6:38] » at Seventh Street.
>> Seventh Street. Okay, I'll cut it down.
[6:42] [snorts and laughter]
>> And then one up on the corner of this
[6:45] house on Cherry Street. Is that yours or
is that it too?
[6:48] » I can't picture it. I love to say yes,
but I don't know.
[6:52] » I mean, it's right on the corner of the
street. Well, the thing is it's it's
[6:55] hanging down and you can't see the road
when you're coming by.
[6:57] » It's on the outside of the of what would
be the sidewalk. John,
[7:01] » if it is on the outside, that's probably
ours.
[7:03] » Okay. So,
>> we haven't trimmed any trees around
[7:06] town. That's on the to-do list this
fall. So,
[7:12] I' I'd like to get an expert to look at
it for all of our our knowledge. Um,
[7:19] obviously they're dead, so you want them
down. That's your request. And if we
[7:23] kill them, obviously we're going to pay
to take them down.
[7:26] » Um, and I I feel that way, too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll look into
[7:30] arborist.
>> Wolf. I have no problem doing that as
[7:33] well. So,
>> um, we had somebody come do the ash
[7:37] trees and everything.
>> And that was from Iowa State, wasn't it?
[7:41] » It was somebody like that. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Wasn't it there or from De Moine
[7:45] or something? I think it was us.
>> Yeah. They did a They did a host survey
[7:49] and
>> Yep. But they had arborists,
[7:51] » counted all the trees and then and she
came and spoke.
[7:54] » Yeah. Yep. They were they were great,
but I don't know if they'd come in.
[7:58] » So, I'm just trying to think of an
arburate.
[8:02] » Kevin Hardy was
>> a is a
[8:06] bas.
>> Okay.
[8:08] » I mean, I I can get you a list of of
guys that take trees down. We can figure
[8:12] out who has their license for the
arburest.
[8:15] » Yeah. I just want to see if there's some
kind of sample we can get because I'd
[8:18] hate to see it all go.
>> Yeah. Should we get them down before
[8:22] they infest other trees or
>> or is there something in the soil
[8:25] infesting that so you can't put more
flowers or whatever you have in your
[8:27] garden?
>> Yeah, you couldn't replant a tree if it
[8:29] was
>> right
[8:31] in the ground.
>> Yeah. Like the root cause was the result
[8:35] and and all that for you and then we'll
work on the trees after that. Getting
[8:41] back after that.
>> Well, I don't think that I'm just kind
[8:43] of thinking through this the process in
my head.
[8:46] Um
yeah. Can we look at that for you? Get
[8:50] back to
>> you. We'll work on getting the arist and
[8:53] getting those samples done. We'll share
everything with you. Obviously,
[8:55] » we'll let you know before Well, do you
need him? Do you need permission?
[8:59] » Well, absolutely. I wanted to have
permission. I want her to be there or
[9:02] someone there.
>> She probably won't be there, but yeah, I
[9:06] mean, I can work remotely that way.
Figure out how to do it.
[9:10] » Yeah, it's not fair. Someone just coming
your property. I want you to be a I want
[9:13] you in the whole process.
>> Okay.
[9:15] » And if you want to get your own as well,
you're more than welcome to. Um but
[9:19] yeah, we're I mean we can go to the tree
service. We can we'll kind of talk about
[9:23] it
>> out.
[9:26] » Yeah.
>> Because that is definitely not an area
[9:31] of expertise of me or anybody at this
table.
[9:34] » So
>> crazy.
[9:37] » Yeah.
>> An asht tree. We can we can explain
[9:40] that.
>> I had those taken down. Oh yeah. Few
[9:44] years ago. Yeah.
>> So, did you say it was a crab apple or
[9:47] what kind?
>> A crab apple is in the crab in the
[9:50] alleyway.
>> Okay. Yeah. And then two locust trees.
[9:54] » Yeah. And they're massive.
>> The crab apple is probably old, right? I
[9:58] mean, it's I mean, it's older. It's a
big And then it's one side that's dead.
[10:02] The [clears throat] other side is so
crazy. So,
[10:04] » if you drive
>> I haven't been by there.
[10:06] » People buy it looks like they've been
dead for years.
[10:09] » Yeah,
>> it does.
[10:10] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[10:14] » Yeah. when I when I initially heard of
it. Okay, go look.
[10:17] » You just cut half of it off. I don't
know how that works.
[10:21] » He could I mean whoever comes can give
us some.
[10:24] » But again, if we need to treat that
tree,
[10:27] not
[10:30] » because I mean an old I love crab apples
and
[10:35] hate to lose it if it's salvageable, you
know.
[10:38] » Does that work for you today?
>> Yep, that works.
[10:40] » Awesome.
>> All right, we're in touch with you.
[10:43] Thanks for coming in.
>> Thanks. [clears throat]
[10:45] » See if we can get answers for you.
>> All right. Planning and zoning vac.
[10:54] » What's that?
>> So, we got a bypass. I made a boo boo.
[10:57] I'm supposed to put it in the paper. So,
and I haven't done that yet.
[11:00] » Aha.
>> Next meeting.
[11:02] » All right.
>> You guys aware of that?
[11:07] » Okay. I just want to make sure it wasn't
a surprise to you.
[11:11] » Okay. Great. Thank you.
Stop sign.
[11:15] » Um, so at the chicken barbecue, I had a
resident on Oak approach me about the
[11:21] temporary four-way stop that was put at
the corner of Oak and West Drive South
[11:26] » for the 10 days for Truck B
and the truck pass and the request was,
[11:32] is there a way we can make that
permanent?
[11:35] Um, and I said, I don't know. Let me do
a little research. So I I talked to Cody
[11:40] a little bit research on it and if you
go back to the MUTCD
[11:47] it's never going to meet the threshold
of the minimum 200 traffic in an 8 hour
[11:52] time per won't do that. Yeah, we looked
under second floor.
[11:54] » Yeah. Um, you know, when I looked at the
rest of that read the rest of that
[11:58] control, which is really a wonderful
reading,
[12:01] uh, Oaks and extremely narrow streets
actually less than 20
[12:05] » 20 ft. Uh, where Westby Drive uh, on the
west side is about 10 ft wider.
[12:12] » Okay.
>> And on the east side, it's narrow.
[12:15] » It's a whole street again. And uh so in
looking at the FTC
[12:21] uh I think when you look at it, the fact
that Oak is very narrow. It's a feeder
[12:26] street. There are no sidewalks for
pedestrians whatsoever. There's a ton of
[12:31] kids uh in that neighborhood using Oak
with walking scooters and adults,
[12:35] bicycles, golf carts, UTVs.
uh anybody that's parked along creates a
[12:42] site pattern the hassle just get around
it which there's not a ton but
[12:47] uh when you look at the uh MUTCD if you
go to section 2B.17 it basically says
[12:53] you could use all of those other factors
and you don't have to meet the 200
[12:57] vehicle threshold it's not necessary
because Rockwell's never going to meet
[13:01] any intersection we have to be honest
without doubt
[13:06] um and so you know I would recommend
that we do a study We look at similar
[13:10] intersections in town. There's a
four-way stock at Maine and Oak
[13:15] and Maine really west of there go
nowhere. I think that was bas
[13:22] first is a three-way and the Monro first
is three way appear just to be to slow
[13:26] people down both those sections but you
can't use speed to do it in any way
[13:31] shape or form
but elk is feeding about 53 doors
[13:37] uh coming off Elm and coming in so
there's quite a bit of home and activity
[13:42] up in there I think there's still two
daycarees operating in the neighborhood
[13:46] » if I'm not mistaken
one of my west you drive north and the
[13:49] other is south. I think it's worthwhile
to take a look and have somebody look at
[13:54] and see
is that is there a safety issue there?
[13:58] Are we really protecting the kids
because traffic is going up and down
[14:02] there quite fast and it's a shortcut?
They they don't want to use the other
[14:06] one because they got stopped there on
>> somebody this morning on my way to work
[14:11] just
>> and they're hauling down there. And I
[14:14] think I think if we can base it if we we
look at it base enough I'm not safety
[14:19] hazard narrow street no sidewalks ton of
kid traffic scooters which are another
[14:25] whole subject all themselves but that's
um I don't these kids are going to get
[14:30] hurt those things
>> can't stop them
[14:33] » and so I would just recommend at least
we we consider doing a informal stud
[14:38] here however we do that
>> is there props outlined in that guide
[14:42] you're
>> absolutely there
[14:45] Like we have to bring somebody in to do
it is something.
[14:48] » No, not really. Here, I'll pass.
>> Just put you on a recliner in the
[14:52] corner.
[laughter]
[14:58] » It actually kind of lays this out.
[15:02] What you're looking at if you go down to
the
[15:07] 17 there, we see warrant for other
factors. Yeah, I should have enough
[15:10] copies for those guys. uh pedestrian
bicycle movement similar residential
[15:15] collector streets which we could use the
others I mentioned uh local factors
[15:19] narrow streets uh in the sense no
sidewalks scooters parking reduced with
[15:24] visibility I if you go in there we can
make the case for all that
[15:28] » sure
>> at that point and maybe maybe there's
[15:32] some war to slow people down coming
through there
[15:37] » yeah I don't think it hurts anything e
>> yeah I mean but you'll never reach the
[15:40] 200 threshold if you try to go up and
use 16. It isn't going to happen. You
[15:44] can see we're 16. In a smaller
community, it's 200. Got to be greater
[15:47] than 200.
>> Oh, there's a time that
[15:53] the young starter had some pretty good
road. And I saw that this summer.
[15:58] » She did.
>> She dumped it.
[16:01] » I think my mother had
it.
[16:04] » Didn't slow her down. I can't.
>> No, you you did slow her down one inch.
[16:09] Um, I told him I'd bring this forward
and see where it went. So, I'm sharing
[16:14] that the research that I've done on it
and like I said, I talked to Cody and
[16:18] sounds like once we look at it, if we
can base it, it's kind of the council
[16:22] decision. So,
>> what are next steps?
[16:25] » I think the next step is to sit down uh
and do a little bit of a study. I don't
[16:30] say anybody has to sit out there for
eight hours, but then you go out and
[16:33] take a few measurements and and look at
it. you're going to draw a conclusion
[16:36] pretty darn quick that you could justify
it. And the fact that we do have 300
[16:41] stops in town that you could use as hey
we've done this in this week for reason
[16:49] that point. So
>> Cody, you're in favor of this?
[16:52] » Yeah.
>> I live right there and I can tell you
[16:56] people get around the stop sign up on on
personal.
[16:59] » You can you can zip right around it
because you got a yield sign up there to
[17:03] go in west drive north.
[17:08] It is extremely narrow little street.
[17:15] » They're very nice.
[17:20] » That's the research I did. I told him
I'd bring it for the resident and I'll
[17:23] let them know what what was decided. But
it seemed like a reasonable request to
[17:27] at least take a look at and see if we
can justify
[17:34] interesting manual to get in or start
reading. I'm sure
[17:39] » do we a motion to start something or I
don't know what the next steps are.
[17:46] » I motion to make a study. I would so
move to make a motion to do a study on
[17:51] the corner of Oak and Westview Drive
South. I have a motion based on the
[17:57] statute there. That's
>> motion Don to uh initiate a study for
[18:04] the intersection of
both street and west view drive south
[18:11] of a saying
[18:15] [laughter]
[18:18] » for a four-way stop. Okay. Is there a
second on that?
[18:21] » I'll second Tracy. All in favor
>> opposed carries.
[18:28] » Um we have our streets committee or do
you want to lead this
[18:34] recommend
streets as far as streets like for
[18:38] hardware or like we want to have streets
involved in this and I took everything.
[18:45] » I I think that's who we involved in my
streets.
[18:58] YouTube [laughter]
[19:03] safety.
>> Yeah, public safety probably should
[19:06] weigh in as well.
>> All right,
[19:08] » you
just don't meet together. Um,
[19:18] » no, that's that's Bradley. Stitzsworth
that is now OK.
[19:22] » So what what's Fitzsworth and
>> uh your buildings and grounds
[19:28] uh finance and equipment and water?
>> I know that you
[19:36] all right finance report.
[19:43] Is this just a motion? Is this a
resolution? I don't remember.
[19:46] » This is a resolution. Okay.
[19:52] She's getting too good.
>> She did. Oh my god.
[20:00] » So essentially what you're looking at
here is your packet industry finance
[20:04] report [snorts] and this is essentially
what we road tax. Right. Right. So this
[20:10] is the money that uh Rockwell
obtains from the state based on use the
[20:16] road for
depreciation.
[20:20] So that's based on gas tax that
[20:28] we're at. We're looking at a grand total
of 40,926 for the fiscal year. Correct.
[20:34] That's what it is.
[20:39] » That's about half of our
>> Okay.
[20:44] I'll entertain a motion resolution here.
>> I make a motion to approve resolution
[20:50] 2026.
>> Okay. Second.
[20:53] » Second. We're going to do roll call
vote. Tracy
[21:01] are unanimous. All
[21:06] right. Old business
[21:12] got it
[21:19] where we stand with the conversation
Shelley had
[21:25] about the ISU part bringing them in
>> last meeting.
[21:29] » Yeah.
>> Last meeting.
[21:30] » Last month. Yeah.
Um
[21:32] » I know she sent a email out that we had
looked into that as well.
[21:36] » Yeah. So Laura and I were talking about
[clears throat] it and it I wasn't at
[21:40] the meeting for but it sounded like what
we gathered from it was going to cost us
[21:46] a lot of money for them to just do a
study.
[21:48] » That's kind of what I got
>> when we already know kind of we need
[21:52] economic development. We need these
things but we don't have anywhere to put
[21:56] them. So, we didn't know if it was
really worthwhile to do this study and
[22:01] pay all this money for them to tell us
exactly what we already know
[22:04] » because we did the comp plan.
>> Yeah, maybe not.
[22:06] » Yeah.
>> And that I'm pretty sure it was to do
[22:09] August 31. [laughter]
>> That's curious if we had ever done it or
[22:13] not done it. I didn't know.
>> I think it was the 26.
[22:18] » And so,
>> I definitely
[22:20] » So, we didn't do it, which is probably
>> we didn't do it. And I had talked to
[22:22] her. She has some other ones um that I
feel like would be better fitting for
[22:27] Rockwell.
>> She just sent something a week or two
[22:32] ago. You got that?
>> Yeah. So, I was waiting
[22:40] city. It was houses that we moved from
different properties was where she was
[22:45] really is where we come up from a lot of
money to make that happen.
[22:49] » Yeah. seemed like if we were doing what
we're doing from the start,
[22:54] » you know, it was hit and miss how much
we were doing on study in order to make
[22:57] it feasible,
>> right?
[22:59] » And you know, habitat and stuff wasn't
feasible most of the time because they
[23:04] don't have that kind of resource money.
>> Yeah.
[23:07] » So,
>> so I'll look more deeply into the other
[23:11] ones that I think would benefit more so
than that one is going to
[23:15] » Yeah, that wasn't really very much time.
No, that was I saw that email and I
[23:20] wonder what we ever did.
[23:29] » Any other old business to discuss?
>> What about um our nuisance tax
[23:36] in the main street areas? What are we
at? Where are we at? Because we got to
[23:43] be getting close to 180 days, don't we?
I haven't noticed
[23:53] around a while.
>> He was here this summer quite often.
[24:03] » Registration paper.
>> No.
[24:09] » The other one
[24:13] » hasn't touched anything at all the
summer.
[24:16] Which one?
>> Johnson.
[24:21] » So, can we look into how close we are so
we can
[24:24] » Any other questions the general too
>> those finds.
[24:32] Um, I did reach out to Zach. Help me
out. What's his name? Apartment.
[24:39] Yeah.
>> So, when the tent was up,
[24:43] » I reached out to him about getting that
cleaned up and I asked about the tree as
[24:46] well and he told me it was going to be
taken care of. The tent is taken care
[24:50] of. The tree is not. So,
>> we did have minions in here. They were
[24:56] attempting, but they were going to come
back with a skid loader, but then it
[25:00] started raining and it got muddy. So,
>> I'm thinking they kind of forgot about
[25:04] us. They seemed like they had tons of
other properties they do the same thing
[25:08] at. So,
>> so I should text another one maybe,
[25:12] » Dad. Or give him a little bit more time.
I don't know. One of the two text.
[25:17] » Yeah,
>> sounds good.
[25:20] » Maybe he'll say, "Oh, yeah. They're
coming next Tuesday."
[25:23] » Right.
>> Hopefully,
[25:31] business.
>> Have we talked to Robert at all about
[25:35] this?
Okay.
[25:39] » He's not mowing. Well, you know, um
>> well, now that there
[25:43] » Yeah, I mean Ryan was
>> on the letter.
[25:47] » And now that somebody else has moved in,
he's not moving. Getting
[25:53] knee behind.
[26:11] I was kind of curious approach one time
about down by Spencer's place. Um, it'
[26:17] be on Main Street. There's a building
that's in the rightway and also then
[26:23] parking the trailer in the rightway.
Going to happen basically after you put
[26:27] the fence in be uh right on the corner
of Maine. It's whatever Spencer Street
[26:33] is
[26:37] » be on the east side of the street there.
if you went down the main from Spencer's
[26:43] theyard.
[26:47] » But somebody approached me want to know
um how they were able to keep a building
[26:53] on the city right away in the trailer.
>> I think it's abandoned, isn't it? Isn't
[27:00] that an abandoned alley? Is that why
>> that is still an alley?
[27:04] » That was
not in the alleyway. I look to make sure
[27:12] it's actually
[27:17] » Yeah,
>> I might bring it up on Google and see if
[27:22] I can find [clears throat]
that.
[27:25] » So, so it looked like after they put the
fence in, the building just stayed out
[27:31] of city right away. It looks like main
and sixth.
[27:34] » Mhm.
[27:37] Whose building is
[27:49] » which one spells here?
>> Right.
[27:51] » Yeah.
[27:54] » Over here.
>> Oh, here.
[28:00] » So, is this where
this one?
[28:03] » Yeah.
>> Is that in the right way?
[28:08] Is that where we're still sitting at
though?
[28:09] » Yeah.
[28:19] » It's on. Is the fence still there?
>> Yes.
[28:24] » So, it's on the outside of the fence.
[28:30] » 35
going on this one. From
[28:36] this angle, it's only inside the trees.
There's an alley there. There's a tree
[28:42] or an alley.
>> I'm going to come look.
[28:44] » I was I can put up on the screen if you
want to.
[28:47] » That tree.
>> Probably not.
[28:49] » It's not. [laughter]
[28:54] » That's what we're looking at.
This tree no longer exists. This is the
[29:00] building we're talking about right
there.
[29:01] » Yeah.
little trailer sets right side.
[29:05] » Oh, there's a trailer down here too on
this side.
[29:08] » On that side of the building, right?
>> On the south side.
[29:11] » West side of the building.
>> I don't think that's permanent fixture
[29:16] by any means. The trailer.
>> Yeah, I don't I don't think it sits
[29:21] there often.
>> Yeah. I don't know.
[29:24] » Is it up about I drove over
and looked at it. What kind of trailer
[29:31] is it? What's that?
>> What kind of trail
[29:34] or like?
>> No, it's it's just a golf trailer.
[29:38] » Just a small kind. I'm looking straight
ahead.
[29:42] » Yeah. I mean, it could
>> I don't I don't think it's there often
[29:44] because it's in a driveway quite a bit,
too.
[29:46] » So, it moves.
[29:50] » Put it there
for the moment.
[29:56] » Okay.
>> I'm pretty sure my husband's just as
[30:00] guilty. [laughter]
[30:04] Well, I think everybody is this time of
year before it gets to be the time when
[30:08] you have to take off the
>> street.
[30:13] [clears throat]
[30:26] Can't see it from there. Okay.
>> Can't see it. I just want to kind of
[30:31] look down in the rightway. But I mean
>> that trailer that's on that side
[30:36] » over here. No, it's over here.
>> He usually has all his stuff pretty
[30:39] well.
>> That's somebody picking up trees from
[30:40] the Datio.
>> Oh, yeah.
[30:44] » It's sitting behind this here. So like
this tells me the rightway is here,
[30:52] but he's a corner lot. Does that change?
>> Corner lot could have a building. You
[30:58] got to get a variance, right? variance
for it.
[31:03] » Doesn't look like they just put it
there.
[31:05] » No, it's been there a while.
[31:09] » Does somebody not like it there?
>> They just were wondering how somebody
[31:14] could do that on a corner lot when they
come. So,
[31:19] » I mean, fair question.
>> Yeah, [clears throat]
[31:21] » question.
>> Is that where a sidewalk would normally
[31:26] go?
What's that? Is that where a sidewalk
[31:30] would would normally have been?
>> This is where a sidewalk would be,
[31:33] right?
>> I don't know. We're not We're not going
[31:35] up and taking measuring.
>> I was looking to see if there was
[31:39] anything
[31:42] over here.
Oops. Wrong way.
[31:49] » There we go. I can't get right where I
want to be. But just kind of eyeballing
[31:54] where this sidewalk is. Yeah, if you
look at the fence it's up against, you
[31:59] would think the fence would be up
against the sidewalk
[32:02] » and the the shed on the outside would be
right on the sidewalk,
[32:07] » right?
[32:11] » Yeah, it looks like it'll be right on
the sidewalk.
[32:14] » Um, let's go. [clears throat]
>> I go too far.
[32:18] » Looks like his garage is on zero line.
>> Yeah, you keep going there.
[32:22] » I'm trying to go. I'm just trying to
look at it from different angles here.
[32:24] Yeah,
>> this is on Beacon.
[32:25] » And again, I can't. This is Beacon. Yes.
>> Oh, no. No. This is Google Maps.
[32:29] » If you look at it on Beacon, it's not in
the right way.
[32:34] » It's inside this lot area.
[32:45] » Thank you.
>> Perfect. Clearly.
[33:06] in the right place
inside the blue.
[33:11] » It is
>> looks like he's got a little wiggle
[33:14] moving around right there too.
If you if you go by setbacks and stuff,
[33:22] there's no way that building could be
there.
[33:24] » Yeah, because it's corn lot.
>> But is it granded in there for so long?
[33:30] » That's the other thing. Yeah. It's not
like you just put it up.
[33:33] » There could have been a meeting way back
in the day when he did put it up.
[33:36] » Could have got permission. Yeah. To put
it there.
[33:38] » But it's inside his lot, right?
>> Yeah. It's inside the line. Yep. This is
[33:42] the right way here. And this is this
line is is this property line. Well,
[33:48] » the trailer we
said that could be another issue.
[33:53] » But then we'd have to go back through
all the
[33:55] » figure out when the trailer could be
though on the south side of that little
[33:59] building.
>> They said it was on the west said you
[34:02] said it was on the west side of the
building. Right.
[34:03] » Right. So that might be out of the that
might be in the right way.
[34:10] » I mean the trailer is hit.
>> Sure. It doesn't part
[34:15] every night,
>> right? and it wasn't upward and and it's
[34:18] there once a while. Once a while it's
parked beside the shed sometimes it's
[34:22] » so it's moving that's that's what we ask
>> that they both
[34:27] » and a lot of times in the drive on the
boat there.
[34:30] » So
[34:34] » well the answer is it's on his property
and not in the right way.
[34:39] » And again he's moving the he's moving
the trailer.
[34:41] » Yeah.
>> We don't want him just sitting there.
[34:45] Yeah.
[34:49] » Right.
[34:53] » All right. What else we got for
business?
[34:58] » You talked a little bit about having,
you know, Jackson landscaping come and
[35:02] Laura hasn't been able to get a hold of
him yet, but um
[35:07] there
>> Yeah.
[35:11] What do you guys think? Can you throw a
chain around it and just pull those out?
[35:15] Those two bushes.
>> I'm sure the roots are in there, but
[35:20] » I just thought I'd ask.
>> Try anything. [laughter]
[35:29] [laughter]
[35:32] » I just wondered if you could pull them
out of there. That'd be one less eyesore
[35:35] and then we could still have somebody
come and do the
[35:39] paving or the actual whatever.
in favor of whatever we're going to do
[35:44] there.
>> I didn't know if that I mean if you
[35:48] thought it was really dumb, we wouldn't
do that.
[35:50] » Well, it's worth a shot. You know,
>> I don't know how hard they would get
[35:53] out. I pull a little sidewalk with
about that.
[35:59] » I hope not.
>> Great condition anyway. She's
[36:03] deteriorating.
[36:07] Usually pushes don't
[36:11] » just thought I'd ask that
>> that was possible.
[36:22] [clears throat]
[36:24] All
right,
[36:26] we're moving to community reports.
All right,
[36:33] I had EMS meeting
forever ago, week and a half ago. Uh
[36:41] I don't know off off the off the pattern
meeting. Uh we've had two counties
[36:48] approach Sarto about absorbing them with
our emergency management department.
[36:55] » Absorbing what?
>> Absorbing those two counties into our
[36:58] emergency management.
>> Oh
[37:00] » yeah. So we'd have one manager for three
counties
[37:04] because the manager of those two
counties is retiring.
[37:08] » So they were asking you be interested in
joining them. We were joined with Worth
[37:13] County at one point but
for I you know issues unknown in the
[37:20] group at the time. We don't know why
this there was a split m but uh it's
[37:27] Franklin they're not it's Hancock and
they're requesting this. So
[37:35] we're just again doing fact finding
right now. Is it worth it? What would
[37:39] that put on our team? Would we have to
hire more people?
[37:42] » Would they pay part of that
>> toward that budget? Yeah. But their
[37:46] budget is strictly the salary of that
person. Sure. That one person. So,
[37:51] » uh I think their combined budget is
about what our budget is
[37:57] kind of twothirds of what we
um and we asked our manager. He's
[38:03] interested
>> and what did they
[38:05] » maybe you know he doesn't know what it's
entailed. He had to hire you to hire at
[38:10] least one more person
[38:15] for him too
far. So
[38:20] » and we kind of talked about the ratio
where Brick got hit, Ventur got hit,
[38:24] Rock,
[38:31] » but we're going to meet with those
commissions and
[38:35] say yes, no. Was it worth it? Whatever.
>> Another meeting to come.
[38:46] » It's coming up.
>> It's coming up. I knew it was coming
[38:48] because we talked about that.
[38:54] » That's all I got.
[39:00] » 16th talk about that property.
>> Okay.
[39:03] » Um and then the landfill gap was close
to October.
[39:08] I don't have any numbers on
[39:13] » it's
[39:17] closed and
>> everything's closed. Pool's empty.
[39:21] » Thank you.
>> Successful season,
[39:24] » I think. So, yeah. I mean,
>> the noise was it's getting lower and
[39:30] lower every year.
>> Yeah.
[39:31] » I think we're doing a great job.
>> And I think that Yeah. I mean, we change
[39:34] the hours based on feedback. And that
was fine. That was all good. You know,
[39:39] you try something, it doesn't work, you
regroup and try something else, I guess.
[39:42] » We didn't get glasses the last day. So,
>> we left out there.
[39:47] » Yeah. Got glass the very last day.
>> Was it a lens? Did you find it?
[39:54] » I haven't even looked.
>> It was very big slide.
[39:59] » They found a piece.
>> It looked It looked like like a lens.
[40:03] But can find any pieces. So it's like
all the blue through the pool or this
[40:10] one for sure. So
about 3:00.
[40:17] » We have biohazard issues this year. I
don't think either.
[40:24] » Clean up clean up
outside of the pool.
[40:29] » Yeah, that's good. It's in the pool. I
got the kid out before
[40:35] » the dog
[40:40] was good. The kids did a great job.
>> I'm trying to find Tracy's granddaughter
[40:46] and staying out of here. [laughter]
>> She's done a great job.
[40:50] » She gets better every year. She does
make it easy and she's getting older and
[40:55] more mature and she's learning the ropes
so it does it gets easier for her, too.
[41:00] And you know, at the end of your job,
you're gone. People took note right away
[41:05] that that was going to be the case and
they kind of buckled down after that
[41:09] happened.
>> Yeah, I think so.
[41:12] » A couple that always want to be on the
schedule multiple times show work.
[41:17] » That that happens every year. And then
just like all of it gets to be about the
[41:21] middle of August,
>> are they all in sports? They're all in
[41:26] sports practices start and people go
back to college and there just isn't she
[41:31] really wanted to keep it open until on
the weekends until Labor Day this
[41:36] weekend and then have Saturday, Sunday,
Monday. But
[41:38] » two two guys that could actually do it
for to do the rotations,
[41:43] » right? Just wasn't the numbers do it.
>> That's funny. When my kids were younger,
[41:48] I never understood why it's closer and
now I kids at that age
[41:53] schools
whatever.
[41:58] » And you know
[42:04] in the last day we kind of decided that
we want to have a bunch of stuff we had
[42:09] to deal with.
>> Yeah. So we talked about the last hour
[42:12] giving away stuff and I got to about one
the group that basically supported our
[42:18] pool.
>> Yeah.
[42:20] » We just basically gave all the stuff
away free.
[42:23] » J's like don't be mad.
>> Anybody that came in for free.
[42:28] » Yeah.
>> Well, what else are we gonna do with it?
[42:32] I mean, every year we we try to buy
back, you know, you know, whatever.
[42:38] » We have like maybe two bags of farms
left.
[42:41] » Yeah.
>> That's the way to do it.
[42:46] » And it's really hard to plan for that
because you buy less towards the end of
[42:49] the year, but still.
>> But that's just And I ask Jade, you
[42:55] know, before we
>> Oh, yeah. She
[42:57] » But she's like, "Well, it saves me a lot
of hassle."
[43:00] » Oh, yeah. because then she has to figure
out what to do with it.
[43:04] It was good. The kids, like I say, it
was more families that have been
[43:07] supporting the whole year
>> all the time.
[43:12] » Give them a little.
[43:23] » Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was
fine.
[43:26] She said nobody's gonna be like,
[43:32] » "Yeah." So, anyway, we're It has been a
good year.
[43:37] She said she wasn't back this year, but
you know,
[43:42] [laughter]
>> I wouldn't
[43:45] made it so easy because she has
everything lined up. She knows the kids,
[43:49] knows which one she can trust. I mean,
you don't have to really do anything.
[43:53] does
>> does a lot in the morning when it gets
[43:55] to work. So,
>> and does way ahead what we're doing
[43:59] » anytime we need a poster or a post or
whatever, she can do that in about 5 10
[44:04] minutes.
>> Two two things that are pro three things
[44:08] that are probably going to have to
happen.
[44:11] One maybe before fall hits is to wire
the pump so we don't have a problem
[44:16] again.
>> Yeah. to water them pump. So, they're
[44:20] all on one kill switch so we don't run a
pump dry.
[44:24] » One of the other things Zach says we
need to paint next year.
[44:28] » That's a pretty huge expense.
>> And we need to try to get our heater
[44:35] fixed or replaced or something. And
that's another huge expense.
[44:40] » Um, we haven't gotten a guy that does
that to give us a quote yet. Um, but I'm
[44:47] hoping that once we get a quote, I go
talk to some money people and and they
[44:52] get paid for without touching any funds
here.
[44:56] That's my goal anyway. And the girls and
and all my parents were willing to do
[45:02] some fundraisers towards it.
>> Yeah,
[45:04] » the school has given us some permissions
to do stuff. So anyway, we're going to
[45:09] try
>> have some things
[45:10] » try to hope we get a pump or the heater
without having tap into
[45:15] » but that heater has about limped along
as long as can live I think. I don't
[45:19] know.
>> So the pool's 15 years old roughly and
[45:23] the heater the same. It's just obsolete.
It wants to run and then it won't run.
[45:30] And
these guys, you know, didn't have parts
[45:33] half the time to fix it. We're trying to
make a rental parts and it just in a few
[45:39] days it was really cold.
>> Pretty cold.
[45:42] » So
So hopefully we can get get some of them
[45:47] items taken care of.
The pumps get one pump get shut off the
[45:51] other one this year which we made
through the season without it shing his
[45:56] gun but
[46:05] all right anything else in committee
reports
[46:09] discussion
except for landscape thing
[46:18] Uh, did we get anywhere with Terry
Thomas?
[46:24] » He [clears throat] did bring in a tile
map to show us
[46:28] » and he said he was going to have
trouble.
[46:39] » It's the main
[46:49] In reading the minutes though too, we
were going to incur the cost, right, of
[46:54] all that. And that doesn't seem quite
fair to me because honestly, the Zeitler
[46:59] Trust has millions of dollars.
[47:05] » I'm not so sure that's correct because
it's going to it's going to do better
[47:11] for us, too. There's no doubt about
that. It will be easier in the long run
[47:15] for us, but it's going to benefit them
as well or whoever rents their land.
[47:21] It's going to benefit them, too.
>> So,
[47:25] see why we couldn't split the cost or
something. I don't know. It just doesn't
[47:29] that didn't seem quite right.
[47:37] Well, the trust is pretty
[47:50] » estimate to see what it's going to take
to
[47:55] » my let's just go east with it, but
we need to go right in the middle.
[48:03] It would be worse if we kept it as is.
[48:19] » I mean, it's going to benefit us, sure.
But it's going to benefit them, too. So,
[48:23] it seems like if it's mutually
beneficial, we should mutually share the
[48:27] cost. That's all I'm saying.
[48:40] Well, it is for the community. I mean,
Rockwell is the community. I mean,
[48:48] » okay. Well, I don't I mean, I'm not
>> Who's who's in charge of the trust?
[48:54] » I don't know who is the president.
Yeah, there's committee. Yeah,
[49:02] » it's not real easy to see.
>> I mean, it might be thousands of dollars
[49:09] to
[49:12] » always put a road through it.
>> Yeah, grassy
[49:16] mow.
>> Get a real gra.
[49:20] » No,
I don't know. I just thought I'd throw
[49:24] that in because it just seems like that
doesn't that didn't seem quite fair.
[49:29] They have money,
[49:38] » but I know they're limited because we've
asked before about them doing different
[49:41] things and they're limited on, you know,
he had a pretty
[49:45] » black and white what they could spend
money on and what they couldn't and I
[49:48] know that's been a problem in the past
for different things.
[49:51] They can only spend x amount of dollars
at a time.
[49:55] » Has anybody read what his wishes were
for the cemetery?
[49:58] Actually read what he put in there.
>> I don't I have never read it
[50:03] [clears throat] and we might have a copy
of that here. [cough]
[50:08] » That would be interesting to see.
>> It would be good to review it, I think,
[50:11] too. If I don't know if you
>> I'll see if I can. Okay, that'd be great
[50:17] because we should maybe look at it and
>> that would that would answer a lot of
[50:22] the questions we're having sitting here
and having a conversation because if he
[50:24] was that black and white with it, I'm
guessing it's spelled out pretty clear.
[50:28] » I think he was pretty black and white
with it.
[50:31] » So,
>> because they wanted to do things before
[50:33] that they thought we [clears throat]
can't do that. [snorts]
[50:37] » What's the name of the trust?
>> The Zidler.
[50:40] » Is it the Christian Zidler?
>> Yes,
[50:42] » it's public.
>> Okay. You can view the documents.
[50:47] » Okay.
>> It's registered as a 501c3 foundation.
[50:52] » Okay.
[50:57] » We just need to find a section that
deals with that.
[51:01] » Read it.
>> And it's called Zidler Trust. Is it?
[51:04] » It's called the Christian Christian and
Lou Zidler Trust.
[51:09] » Yeah.
[51:14] That's what it says on the sign anyway.
[51:22] » Documents.
[51:29] [snorts and laughter]
[51:39] » 1993.
[51:44] Okay.
[51:49] [clears throat]
>> But it doesn't.
[51:53] » I don't know if it says anything about
changing it though. You know what I
[51:56] mean? They're changing.
>> Do you want to see it?
[52:00] » I'm good for now.
[52:17] Interesting. Okay.
[52:24] Just looking at I'm looking at all the
financials from years past.
[52:32] Okay. Well, we'll look at that later.
Um,
[52:38] um, anything else?
[52:42] » Okay, moving to employee discussion.
Zach.
[52:47] Um, I set this up for a case study out
of the lagoon. Okay, we are going to be
[52:54] trying out this little buoy here.
Supposedly, according to all the
[52:59] research that they have done, it helps
mitigate the sludge in their pond. It's
[53:05] free. Cost us $0 to do this. We're just
collecting information. And what it does
[53:09] is it feeds the sludge. Like it makes it
no chemicals, no nothing. It just uses
[53:15] the sun. Really, it's a solar pan on
that thing and it just raises the sludge
[53:18] up to the top. So, it actually digests
it and everything. It's a lot way
[53:22] cheaper than dredging. Dredging cost a
lot of money. We got about two foot of
[53:26] sludge in that thing. So, we can only
hold four foot of water instead of full
[53:30] six.
>> So, it really works. This is going to
[53:34] help us a lot.
>> And how big is it?
[53:36] » Uh, it is 19.7 in by 26.
>> A little tiny little tiny guy. Yeah.
[53:42] » Yeah.
>> Only thing I got to do is
[53:44] » drone.
[laughter] It just floats in there and
[53:47] just does its thing.
>> Pre- floats. It's just
[53:51] » Well, it's tied to cables cuz I got to
pull it in every two weeks and clean the
[53:54] sensor thing on the bottom.
>> Okay. So, you don't have to go in a boat
[53:57] to retrieve it.
>> No. No. It's going to be on a rope where
[54:00] [laughter]
>> put the white suit on like
[54:05] the dirty cell, too. I jump
>> in to go slow.
[54:10] » Yeah. Don't go in there.
>> But yeah. No, it seems like a good deal.
[54:14] It's free.99. Doesn't cost us anything.
>> No chemicals. that should not harm any
[54:19] part properties of our water. Nothing.
>> So, so are they trying to sell it to us
[54:24] though in the long run?
>> I would imagine that that they would
[54:27] probably want to do that. And I mean, if
this really works and gets rid of the
[54:30] sludge, onetime fee versus 2 million
plus dollars to dredge that thing out,
[54:35] that's pretty good deal. But but yeah,
that thing has never been dredged and
[54:40] that thing was built in 1982. So, we've
made her a long ways with collecting
[54:44] some doodoo.
[54:48] Yeah.
>> And it just does the one time
[54:52] » you Yeah. But they're all connected
together. So the the effects of the
[54:56] first one travel over to the other two,
>> right? But you only put it into one
[54:59] time.
>> Only going in the one time. Correct.
[55:01] Yes. And this case study is only a
couple months. Like they're coming on
[55:05] Friday to set it up.
>> Oh, no. It's on Friday and they're
[55:11] taking it back uh end of
November I think.
[55:17] » And so what does it m I mean how do you
know whether it's working or not? Just
[55:20] by measuring the sledge in the bottom.
>> It'll visibly float to the top of the
[55:24] surface. So the sun can actually start
doing its thing and
[55:27] » degrading it.
>> Yep.
[55:29] » Yep. Yep. And then at the end we are
going to measure the sludge and see
[55:34] exactly how much we have lost. So,
>> so yeah, it's going to be quite
[55:41] interesting to see.
>> Be interesting. Interested to
[55:43] [clears throat] see how it works.
That's all I got.
[55:46] » Okay.
>> Just want to buy any equipment or
[55:49] anything.
>> No, no. Z
[55:51] $0.
[55:56] » All right.
>> Mhm.
[56:06] motion to
Tracy. All
[56:09] » in favor?
[56:15] » Who wants to see this? Everybody want to
look at it.
[56:20] » Yeah. 13.