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. >> we're ready. >> hello, good evening,

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everyone. Thanks for your patience. We're going to go ahead and

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get started with our tuesday, september 8th, rohnert park city council

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meeting. We'll begin with roll call. >> councilmember adams.

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>> here. >> councilmember giudice. >> present.

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>> councilmember rodriguez. >> here. >> vice mayor elward.

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>> present. >> mayor sanborn. >> present.

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>> all councilmembers are present. And those who can, would you

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please rise, we will do the land acknowledgment followed by the pledge of allegiance.

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the city of rohnert park acknowledges indigenous peoples

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as the traditional stewards of the

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land. Let it be acknowledged that the city of rohnert park is

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located within the traditional homelands of the federated

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indians of graton rancheria, comprised of coast miwok and southern pomo peoples.

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pause river park lead the pledge of allegiance. That would be lovely.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for which it

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stands one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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thank you. Okay. Wants to provide public y -

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comment for tonight's meeting, I'm going to go ahead and just open now with

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this statement. >> public meetings are a limited public forum meaning

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that there are rules for commenting at these meetings.

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comments on nonaagendized items are going to occur only during the designated

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public comment period on the agenda and they must address matters within the subject

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matter jurisdiction of the city. Comments on aagendized items

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must relate to the specific item on the agenda and must occur during the public

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comment period designated for that specific agenda topic.

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if comments don't fall into these categories, the city's going to provide an initial

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warning that you need to stay within the subject matter jurisdiction of the

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city or on the agenda topic. If the initial warning is not followed, then the

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chair, myself, will direct the city clerk to cut the microphone and throughout

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the warning system, I will be seeking the city attorney's guidance in

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identifying any comments that aren't within the subject matter of the city

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or are not related to the agenda items being heard. So members of public

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attending in person wishing to comment are encouraged to fill out the pink public

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comment cards which are found at the back table. Those aren't required.

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but help us stay organized. So following in person public comments individuals

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participating remotely on zoom or on zoom by phone who would like to comment on any

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item must select the raise your hand feature within a minute of the agenda item

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opening to be recognized before speaking. That is the housekeeping.

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we'll go to item 4 on the agenda, which is presentations, starting with

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one of my favorite things, the induction and pinning ceremony for our new public

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safety officers, quincy curry, brennan razo and david vasquez.

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chief, welcome. It's a little excited to be retiring, can you tell?

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>> okay. I'm here tonight to present our newest academy

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graduates. I know we're here pretty early.

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they just graduated about a week and a half ago. Normally they're with their

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ftos but I asked our city manager, marcelo, for a special favor of allowing me

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to introduce them because probably the last group I will get to introduce.

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please bear with m. So first I'm gonna call up public safety officer

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trainee david vasquez. All right. So david was born in a small

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pueblo outside guadalajara, mexico, and then moved to the united states with his

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family when he was seven years old. David attended ioneer high

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school in santa rosa. Attended santa rosa junior college where he obtained

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his associate's degree in fire technology. David then attended the

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santa rosa junior college public safety training center and acquired his emt

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certificate. That was in 2023. Followed by the completion

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of the fire academy in december of 2025. And then he decided he

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wanted to be a two-way hero. So he came to the city of rohnert park, where we sent

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him to the academy and he graduated from the police academy in 2026.

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so david's been quite busy. Prior to attending the academy, david was a reserve

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firefighter for the city of healdsburg for approximately two years.

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in addition to being a lead seller hand at hawks winery in hillsboro.

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david enjoys working on vehicles and spending time with family and friends.

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he also enjoys going to the gym and camping. David was hired as a police

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officer trainee with the city of rohnert park, in march 23rd, and is currently

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in his department orientation and is preparing to start his phase 1 fto.

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welcome, david vasquez. I'm ure david put down here that his dad is david

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vasquez. Next we have brennan razo. Come on up, brennan.

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I just want you to know when we came here, I ask them to write their bios.

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so this is them telling you about themselves. All right.

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brennan was orn in modesto, california, has lived in oak, dale his entire life.

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he now lives in santa rosa. He attended oakdale high school and later completed

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coursework in modesto junior college, where he received training through the modesto

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junior college regional fire academy. Prior to pure suing a career

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in public sfety, brennan worked for other agency including cooper poulos fire

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protection district, cal fire aeu and angels campfire before joining amador fire

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protection district where he served as a fire engineer for the past four years.

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brennan is now completing the process of being a public afety officer with

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the rohnert park department of public safety. A goal he has held since he

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first applied at age 21. Brennan enjoys everything to do with outdoors, including

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hiking, backpacking, mountaineering. Brennan also enjoys spending

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time with his family and friends as well as working out.

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now, brennan, I added the family part on that. So I will remember that in

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the future. Brennan was hired as a public safety officer with

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the rohnert park department of public safety and is department orientation

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before beginning the fto program. His mother roxanne simmons

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and father and mentor rich hodder are here. Raise your hand.

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there they are. Brennan razo. Last but not least is quincy

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curry. I will ay you might want to grab your kleenexes and sit

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back for the ride on this one. Quincy won the bio of

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writing this time, I think. I did tell him he's in trouble because yesterday he

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got it to me and it was all in first person. So I now I have to go

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through and change it to quincy because it's going to sound strange to me reading.

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I, I, I the whole time. I did change it a little bit.

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all right. Quincy was born in san francisco and has lived in

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santa rosa since he was two years old. He graduated from montgomery

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high school in 2022 where he played football and set he school squat record.

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he states his name is actually on the gym wall. After graduating, quincy

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attended the sjc while working for the marin county fire department as a

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seasonal firefighter. During his time with cal fire, quincy was assigned to

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strike teams as far north as medford, oregon and as far south as los angeles.

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once he graduated from the fire academy in may of '24 from sjc with an

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associate's degree in fire from the srjc police academy- in august of '26.

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he enjoys spending time with his girlfriend even though she is currently in college

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in san diego, where she is studying to obtain her bachelor's degree in

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nursing. While audrey's away in college, quincy says he's

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trying to get better at playing the guitar and building his skills.

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quincy spends much of his free time on facetime with audrey.

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when not facetiming audrey he enjoys listening to the podcast on topics he is

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interested in as well as topics he knows nothing about quincy's faith is very

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important to him and he attends church every sunday as he strives to get closer

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to jesus. While growing up, quincy looked up to his father as a

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police officer. And he would watch him leave to work most mornings

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through his bedroom window. Whoa also do station visits and remember telling his dad

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that he couldn't retire until they were partners. That's why I told you.

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things changed during 2017. The fire when his aunt peg lost her home.

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quincy was in the middle school at the time. And he recalls being so

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affected by this event he decided to pursue a career in firefightering.

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when he later learned of the public safety model in rohnert park, he realized he

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no longer had to choose between the two professionals.

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quincy is very excited for the opportunity to make an impact in the xhoon.

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he is part of and that he can become a role model for the family he plans to have

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in the near future. Quincy is currently completing his orientation

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and will start the fto program on october 4th. In attendance today is his

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mom, jody curry, and his dad, richmond curry, who I also want to thank you for

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your service during your time. Thank you.

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quincy curry. All right. As we spoke before, most

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important parts of becoming a public safety professional is getting to be pinned.

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they had the opportunity to select somebody at their graduation.

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they have another opportunity to select somebody today to pin their

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badge. Very significant badge pinning is an important part

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of this job. So david, who would you like to pin your badge today?

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okay. There you go. Please feel free to come up

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and take pictures. If you want pictures. Brennan, who would you like

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to pin your badge today? [applause] quincy, who would you like

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to pin your badge? Okay. And we're starting new

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thing today. Moving forward. But usually they sign their

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oath of office and then we take it from them and they get a copy.

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but beings it's so special, sergeant savis actually came up with the idea, give him

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full cedit, but we wanted to send them off with something more than just a

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white copy piece of paper. So we've got. >> as part of the counsel,

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we'd proudly like to take a family photo and that could be everyone who raised them,

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plus us. >> they mean it, really. They do.

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you've got to go up there. >> member rodriguez would like to hare a few words

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before you go. >> I just wanted to say 3 welcome and congratulations,

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and I was just commenting to the chief, three with fire experience, hello, baby,

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that is a great hire. I wish you all long and prosperous careers in the

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city of rohnert park, nd welcome to this family. >> it seemed like a theme

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of legacy that you guys are all establishing and continuing, and thank you,

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chief, or the legacy you're leaving, as his being the last group that you're

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handing over to the city. So welcome, of course, to the city of rohnert park,

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the friendly city for a reason, and you're oming into a community that is

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supportive of our public safety and really all of our staff.

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and so we're glad to have you all and look forward to seeing how your careers take

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off. >> so nice to see you here with your families.

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I thought the chief was going to generally choked up here because you are his

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last incoming class. >> you have raised them well, all of you, and you've

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done a great job. Now the community will benefit from your

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investment. Have you seen the tick-tock when the parents after

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16 years finally went -- this is pretty much what is happening.

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not only are you sharing your child with the entire community, but we're also

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going to make sure that you have a team of wonderful people that will take care

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of them and will be protected. So welcome to the family.

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and we are pleased that you chose rohnert park. >> as a parent, I can only

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imagine how proud you re of your children and thank you for sharing them with us,

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and encouraging them to work hard. That work is very deeply

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appreciated here in our city. Thank you all.

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you may go celebrate. >> all right. So we have one more

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feel-good presentation this evening, and that is going to be for september 226,

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that will be national service dog month in the city of rohnert park, now

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that I'm all weepy. This is near and dear to me as a person who osters

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service dogs. I wanted to make sure that we recognize their impact

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here in our city. Okay. The proclamation as the

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mayor of city of rohnert park proclaiming september 2026 as national

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service dog month. Whereas service dogs make a profound difference in the

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lives of people with disabilities by providing assistance, independence,

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companionship, and whereas national service dog month recognizes the extraordinary

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contributions of these highly trained animals and the people and organizations

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who prepare them and place them with those who need. And for us, service dogs

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assist individuals with a wide range of needs, including visual and hearing

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impairments, medical conditions, mobility challenges and

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trauma-related conditions. And whereas paws for purple heart is a national

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nonprofit with a presence in our region supports veterans through canine-assisted

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therapeutic programs and service dog training strengthening he powerful

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bonds between people and dogs. And whereas these programs

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create meaningful opportunities for veterans while helping prepare

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service dogs that bring greater independence, confidence and quality of

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disabilities.iduals with - now, therefore, be it proclaimed that I, emily

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sanborn, as mayor on behalf of the city of rohnert park proclaim september 2026 as

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national gnats and encourage all residents to recognize and celebrate the invaluable

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contributions service dogs and the dedicated people and organizations including paws

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for purple hearts whose work changes lives. Duly and regularly

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proclaimed this eighth day of september. If you would like to share a

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few ords as the recipients of this proclamation, we have with us our senior

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program instructor and regional director from paws for purple heart.

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would you like to be our spokesperson, claire? The microphone should be on

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already. >> hello, my name's claire richardson I'm the regional

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director for paws for purple hearts. I've worked at this

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organization for five years and firsthand have seen the impact that an animal can

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make on an individual's life. For our organization,

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specifically a veterans life, as we are in our second week here in the

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north bay of client training where veterans have flown in here locally to receive dogs

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trained by our instructors, the powerful change that it makes n their lives is no

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small feat. It really does take a village, and I just cannot

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be more proud to work for this organization and with people who share the same

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values and care so deeply about our community is a beautiful thing.

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so I just want to say thank you so much for recognizing the importance of a service

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animal and to having us here today. Thank you.

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>> and would arrow be up for a photo? >> just one second.

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there we go, good evening mayor and city councilmembers.

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I'm here with scott sanders, our sustainability manager. We have a briefing here

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regarding assembly bill 1572 compliance in relationship to the nonfunctional turf.

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turf that doesn't have functional use that some of our street medians, et

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cetera. Let me get into this briefing here.

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the agenda is the law timeline and key definitions where the city will be

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impacted by this assembly bill and this is an unfunded state mandate and it's some

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estimated impacts, path to compliance and ordinance and reimagining these affected

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spaces. How did we get here? The first step was drought.

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so it led to this assembly bill, 2122 and then there was an emergency turf

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watering ban in march of 2022. And then assembly bill 1572

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made it permanent in october of 2023. The author of this assembly

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bill was assemblywoman laura friedman, and the coauthor was senator harry stern.

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and this was signed by governor gavin newsom october 13 of 2022.

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our compliance timeline is october 2023 is signed into law.

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then september 8th, 2026, today, we're providing a briefing and then

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january 1st, 2027, is our irrigation shut off deadline.

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so that's when we'll have to shut off irrigation water to these affected areas, which

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we'll see further into the presentation. January 1st, 2024, this

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assembly bill takes effect. Then october through december of 2026 we'll come

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back to council with the ordinance update. So looking ahead, when

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others must comply. January 1st city f rohnert park, we will have to be in

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compliance, means we have to shut the water off to these areas that are deemed

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nonfunctional turf. January 1st, 2028, while this will apply to

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commercial properties, businesses and institutions. January 1st, 2029, will be

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the hoas and multi-families. The city of rohnert park, this is the first step is

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local governments and public agencies. Our deadline january 1st,

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2028, commercial industrial and institutional properties, then january 1st

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is the homeowners association and common interest developments.

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functional versus nonfunctional turf. Functional turf is ground

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cover turf located in a recreational use area or community spaces, parks,

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sport fields, playgrounds, picnic areas, such all of our parks.

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nonfunctional turf as you functional turf by statute, turf and street right of

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ways, medians, parking lots, is nonfunctional, regardless of what surrounds it.

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what's exempt and what isn't. Exempt is nonrestricted turf

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irrigated with recycled water, which we do have several areas that are

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irrigated with recycled water functional turf, parks, sports fields,

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recreation areas. Trees and perennial plantings, targeted

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irrigation will still be allowed. Cemeteries are excluded not

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exempt. Nonfunctional turf on city property irrigated with

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potable water. Street mediums, right of ways, and parking lots turf

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that is fenced off or inaccessible for recreation and this is what drives our

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22 parcel inventory. This is an unfunded state mandate.

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assembly bill 1572 requires the city stop irrigating identified turf with potable

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water by january 1st, 2027. It does not require full physical conversion by that

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date. The physical conversion work, removing grading and

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ground cover can be phased in over subsequent budget cycles at a sustainable

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pace. Where is the city impacted. In total, the city we've

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identified 7.04 acres that need review before january 1st, 2027.

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this excludes parks, recy recycled water and the golf course drive median.

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it also excludes the country club drive median. Because that is designated

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as a park. The fur if acreage by location.

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commerce boulevard so north and south that's a total of 3.2 acres.

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broadway parkway is approximately one acre. Heritage lane, approximately

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one acre. East cotati avenue, 0.8 acres and snyder lane,

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about .64 acres, which toldz about 7.04 acres. Here's some examples of some

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affected areas. Here's commerce boyfriend. There's commerce boulevard

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north. You see our 101 sign there. Then you see hat's right

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there near business park drive. So that's all commerce

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north, which is designated nonfunctional turf. That's one of our biggest

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areas of nonfunctional turf. There's some additional corridors that will be

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affected. East cotati avenue, approximately 0.8 acres in

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total. There's byway parkway, approximately one acre and

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camino collegio, about .23 acres. Estimated impacts, near-term

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impact of stop irrigation by january 1st, 2027. Here's what will follow.

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visual is things are going to turn brown after it quits raining.

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so turf will be visibly brown and go dormant once irrigation stops

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operational. Conversion work competes with existing public works

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duties. Pace depends on how much is done in-house versus

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contraed. Theormat thing keepo modify tho trees still

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estimated m timeline.e we're

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this in we ha could be mul going to comple

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budgetng to spendi wehave ms. So r excavatee thing take cmplie

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har make. The city's use ordinance mustnded definitions deadline.

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october/novemb this year with hat. An targetthat,

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2027. Working thattecurrently. Irr one of three complementary

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approaches to reimagining spaces is convert the spray heads to drip or bubbler

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minters so mature trees can keep the water they need without irrigating the turf

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around them. This is the best practice for all the sites with

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established trees and we'll confirm that, field verification.

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but we ant to protect these mature trees while lessening the use of potable water for

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nonfunctional turf. Turf removal, demolished and off all nonfunctional turf

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down to grade, clearing the site for molds or other application.

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this is best for medium parkway strips and building grounds with no tree canopy.

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it's pretty straightforward. It clears the site. Removes that turf.

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woodchip mulch cover, finished converted areas, with the city's existing

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wood chip supply, plus ongoing tree trimming to suppress weeds and hold soil

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moisture. This is best for most inventory because we have

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the material on hand. So we'll use our existing supply on hand.

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it's just the labor to install it, remove the turf. Our next steps on track one

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is caps or adjust irrigation valve controllers at each identified parcel, confirm

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shutoff in the field before january 1st, 2027. Prepare public communication

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before shutoff. Turf will be visibly brown before the conversion

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catches up. Low cost, largely staff time.

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no capital outlay required for this. Well, there will be minimal

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cost for retrofitting these irrigation systems. Our track two is phased at

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2027 and beyond, physical removal, grading and conversion.

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first one is field verification, functional use calls, mounted site grading

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and ree canopy. So that's basically ensuring that we identify those trees

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and work on continuing irrigation to the trees. In-house removal and wood

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chip cap on highest priority corridors. Removing corridors and

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remaining corridors contracted work where in-house capacity is short.

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establish care and scope irrigation retrofit for tree zones.

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and that was it. Questions? >> council, let's take your

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questions then we'll go to public comment before you share your extra thoughts.

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>> thank you. So from what I understand, the ity of santa rosa as

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no more capacity for purple pipe. Do we know during the course

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of this timeline if any conversations have been had about maybe increasing that

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capacity? >> so the issue with these sites is getting that --

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>> the location. >> it would be very -- it would be cost prohibitive.

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commerce north, for instance, that recycled water system, it's all --

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it's nonpressurized over there. We looked at it.

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you would have to install a booster station because that serves roberts lake and the

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golf course and that gravity flows n the ponds and they have pumping systems that

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pump out the ponds to irrigate the golf course. So all these sites recycled

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water is not in the vicinity. It would be ery cost

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prohibitive. >> and I'll note that the median along golf course or

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country club drive has been designated as a park. Can you kind of talk me

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through the process there and how that happened? >> that happened --

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>> could we duplicate it? >> very early in my tenure here.

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I remember it was during the drought. And it came to the attention

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of the council that basically the water would be shut off there.

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so to emain that green zone it had to be designated as a park at the time, which made

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it exempt from those drought restrictions. >> okay.

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but to be clear, what was the process? In other words, how did that

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happen? Maybe that's a question for the city manager.

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>> we would have to bring it back and determine especially if it was done

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several years ago, we can go back to our, I guess our history and records, and see

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how that designation was done for that particular area.

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I'm sure it's included also in our park number as far as the number of acreage that

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we have for park. But we can come back with a response for that.

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>> thank you. I really appreciate that. What concerns me is that

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rohnert park has the lowest greenhouse gas emissions of any jurisdiction in the

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county of sonoma, and now we're going to be removing 7 acres of turf that was

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previously sequestering carbon. The state is competing with

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its own goals. On the one hand they're saying we have to save water

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which is laudable and I understand immaterial. -- understand it.

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but at the same time they want us to reduce greenhouse gasses to meet their net

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carbon zero emissions by 2030 they're saying. So obviously that goes

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counter to this. So it is concerning. Of course have we run the

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numbers on this in terms of how much this is going to cost us.

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>> I ran some high-level numbers. I mean, if you convert that

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to square feet, that's 305,000 square feet. If we took the cheapest

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price at $1 per square foot for mulch that's approximately $300,000.

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now if we went to the higher level of full native planning, I mean, that could

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run you up to $3 million at $10 a square foot. We don't like that approach

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because that puts more labor requirements on the public works department, more staff

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time because that's all hand work to get in there with weeds.

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so you can see the range there. But mulch, that's a very

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conservative estimate, $300,000 t that 7 acres. >> okay.

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I'll let my colleagues comment. But if any f our state

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partners are listening, certainly a lot of these laws are well-intended but

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they come with consequences that are very unfortunate and these unfunded state

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mandates are just the bane of jurisdictions' existence. I'll leave it there.

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>> council, other questions before we go to public comment?

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questions. >> thank you. I did have a question.

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assuming it rains a lot this year, you're going to turn off the water, but then

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nobody's going to see any of the results of this for several months.

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so y question is, do we have any plan to put property signs -- I would

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euphemistically call them lawn signs on the property that previously had lawn on

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it to say this is turning brown because of x, y or z or qr codes because all of a

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sudden we're gonna get phone calls. Why aren't you watering the

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grass anymore. Well we're not watering the grass because some people up

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wasn't in ur best interest.- so somehow we need to get this out and short of

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knocking on everybody's door and stapling a notice on their forehead, I'm not sure

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how to do this. >> I'm gonna let scott answer this because he's

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involved in the committees and the state and local other local entities are

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dealing with this compliance. >> so signs, perfect idea.

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that's definitely going to be part of like the public outreach.

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when we bring up this ordinance update, the public's going to have to

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comment on it. So they're going to get acknowledgment from that.

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so in the next few months, it's going to be this whole public outreach that we're

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going to do to help inform the public that these areas will be turning brown, and I

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didn't even think about this. I love that idea.

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and definitely having those in -- >> I don't want to give out

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signs either, but it just came to my mind. >> I'll get it on the

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digital board because -- >> so I do have another -- thank you, by the way.

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the other question I have is on the corner of country club and golf course, as you

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come off the golf course, there's a whole bunch of green there as you turn the

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corner. Is that a park? >> that's part of the golf

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course. Correct. >> there's one --

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>> over there they've got a problem -- >> yes, there is a lot that

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the city owns on commerce and state farm. And from park reynolds

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there. That's city owned. >> say that one more time.

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>> that turf area, that whole parking lot s city owned.

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so that turf there on state farm and commerce is going to go brown.

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the city owns that parking lot. So that will fall nder

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ab1572. >> thank you for the information.

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the concern is our constituents just like my colleague just said a lot of

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times when those rules come the city council we pay the price for something that we

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are not even altered to that and when I'm gonna ask for is you guys to make sure

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that our constituents really understand what is going on because there have been

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rules that have been changing and when they change, I mean, we also are

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included like freezing those regulations without even having any power over it.

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that bill will be a good example because once it starts getting brown I can

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just see our constituents being pissed off because they will say well we have

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been really conservative with our water we already have been shutting down and

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my lawn is brown. It's been like that for a while because we have been

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following the rules but there are certain people that is going to put them to

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the edge and I will appreciate if that part of communication is clearly put

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out there so people understand that he council cannot reverse anything and

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this is something that it's a bill that is mandated to all the cities because

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rohnert park is used to the green lawn. You guys will take good care

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of it and switching from green to brown. That is my concern and plus

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it's going to cost us money and we've been telling our constituents that hey we

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don't have the money and this is not really helping us really when it comes to

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the budgeting that we've been already really, really thin on what to do here.

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so I will really ope you guys will help on that side of the communication.

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>> thank you, vice mayor. We'll ensure our public outreach is, we'll be

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working with other local entities to make sure we all have common messaging.

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>> thank you. >> to add to that. I've already been to a few

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meetings on hoa managers. They're very aware of this coming down the pipeline.

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the public's going to become very aware seeing us firsthand do it.

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then commercial businesses are gonna have to follow next year and then hoas

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following year. So hoas are already trying to convert areas right now

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so they're very well aware of it but now just getting the broader public aware

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that will be our next step. >> because it's all on us. Because they're electing us

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to really make sure that we are speaking on their behalf.

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and that part is where we need you guys to be up on. >> there are a few

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questions before we go to public comments. Can you just confirm that

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the current infrastructure irrigation infrastructure is all one system in the spots

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that we can't cut it off to the turf and still a lot of trees.

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like, whole point is that you have to reconfigure that to be able to just water the

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trees. >> that's correct, mayor. We will have to reconfigure

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the systems and remove the spare and put bublers or emitters just for the trees.

437
00:50:02,825 --> 00:50:08,631
it's going to take some work digging and some type of reconfiguration.

438
00:50:08,631 --> 00:50:15,831
>> gotcha. Curious, have we reached out to daily act as a possible

439
00:50:15,905 --> 00:50:20,643
the road is what they do?n - I'm assuming we have. >> we have.

440
00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:25,848
what they want to do is install these native plants, which are kind of high

441
00:50:25,848 --> 00:50:29,852
maintenance. So it's hard to get them to come in just to put a mulch

442
00:50:29,852 --> 00:50:33,255
layer on it. But we have had talks with them.

443
00:50:33,255 --> 00:50:39,529
>> good to know. >> even tomorrow, actually. >> and the wood chip supply

444
00:50:39,529 --> 00:50:45,402
that we have that we're caching, is that the mountain I see at the

445
00:50:45,402 --> 00:50:50,606
downtown site. >> that's part of it. And we reply at the

446
00:50:50,606 --> 00:50:52,542
sportscenter. So that's free to community members.

447
00:50:52,542 --> 00:50:55,945
>> that's oming from our own tree work here in the city.

448
00:50:55,945 --> 00:51:00,170
>> a lot of it, correct. Sonoma water also provides some.

449
00:51:00,170 --> 00:51:06,220
>> good to know. And then do we have a sense of the potential gallons of

450
00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:12,622
water saved on that 305,000 square feet. >> I do not have that.

451
00:51:13,763 --> 00:51:20,363
but I can provide that to city council, yes. >> not urgent.

452
00:51:20,502 --> 00:51:26,420
>> from the reads. >> sometimes it's a little more exciting than hearing

453
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:31,581
you're saving water to see how many gallons. >> yeah, and as you know

454
00:51:31,581 --> 00:51:37,120
that varies between wet seasons and dry seasons. I could provide that to the

455
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,655
city council. >> absolutely. I think my last question,

456
00:51:39,655 --> 00:51:42,726
there was a mention in the presentation about field verification.

457
00:51:42,726 --> 00:51:47,797
is that just going through and doing an audit of the spaces and making sure you

458
00:51:47,797 --> 00:51:51,534
understand hat is needed in each of those spaces? >> correct.

459
00:51:51,534 --> 00:51:57,606
a lot would be grading that would need to be done. A lot are mounds that go

460
00:51:57,606 --> 00:52:03,279
straight to the curb. So if you just threw a bunch of mulch on there.

461
00:52:03,279 --> 00:52:06,949
two-inch storm comes, it's all in your street now so it would be verifying those

462
00:52:06,949 --> 00:52:11,200
areas that would need excavation and then it's verifying which trees are

463
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,556
going to get the tree rings how many of those you need to buy.

464
00:52:14,556 --> 00:52:18,828
>> on triage. And then the last question I really do have is we have

465
00:52:18,828 --> 00:52:23,633
all this information we're trying to collect in the field verification around

466
00:52:23,633 --> 00:52:29,372
the turf which is related to the trees that are next to the turf.

467
00:52:29,372 --> 00:52:32,842
is the tree inventory db that we have something we can use to help track this

468
00:52:32,842 --> 00:52:36,578
or are they two separate things we're gonna ave another new project

469
00:52:36,578 --> 00:52:41,116
management system that doesn't talk to our existing gov outreach and tree

470
00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:45,454
whatever that one's called. >> it would have to come from field verification.

471
00:52:45,454 --> 00:52:49,792
we did get a gis layer from the state. And is it just shows the

472
00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:53,620
green areas between trees so that's what I've been looking at and I can

473
00:52:53,620 --> 00:52:55,798
count -- it wouldn't take much. But you could easily

474
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:58,660
identify it. >> all right those are my questions.

475
00:52:58,660 --> 00:53:02,806
>> excuse me, mayor, your good questions prompted but I figured go ahead so have

476
00:53:02,806 --> 00:53:06,408
we run any kind of an analysis about increased fire danger because of this.

477
00:53:06,408 --> 00:53:10,946
>> no, we haven't, councilmember. >> and I raised that

478
00:53:10,946 --> 00:53:16,346
segmentation issue, too. We've got laguna sedimentation, the biggest

479
00:53:17,180 --> 00:53:21,757
problem now they don't want to water these areas which then will turn to dirt.

480
00:53:21,757 --> 00:53:26,280
eventually if they're not protected which then will release dirt into the

481
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,163
stream. So that's the angle I'm always against.

482
00:53:28,163 --> 00:53:32,363
and they don't care. Crickets. >> thank you.

483
00:53:33,301 --> 00:53:41,510
>> so when talking about water saved, just had -- o water in here when we're

484
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:47,717
talking about water rates, they said because they're not selling enough not

485
00:53:47,717 --> 00:53:53,117
everyone is saving enough. Now we're raising the prices.

486
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,526
so like you guys didn't make the decision obviously but I guess to the earlier

487
00:53:57,526 --> 00:54:01,664
question, do we know how much water will actually be saved and then can sonoma

488
00:54:01,664 --> 00:54:05,201
water give us some sort of estimate of what that cost could look like.

489
00:54:05,201 --> 00:54:09,605
>> I can provide that councilmember, I can provide a five-year average to the

490
00:54:09,605 --> 00:54:12,208
council kind of run you through the different seasons.

491
00:54:12,208 --> 00:54:16,411
I'll give you a cost. Irrigation water is a commercial rate it's pretty

492
00:54:16,411 --> 00:54:21,884
easy to figure out, not like residential. So I can provide that.

493
00:54:21,884 --> 00:54:27,890
>> thank you. I guess I'll defer to my colleagues, we'll be asking

494
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:30,693
a lot of these questions to the legislators as well and seeing the impacts that they

495
00:54:30,693 --> 00:54:37,320
are putting not just on our budget as you mentioned but then like that was the water

496
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,636
on on the people to do what, and then we have prior concerns and continued water

497
00:54:41,636 --> 00:54:49,436
concerns for sediment, and it's ust -- I don't know. But thank you.

498
00:54:50,513 --> 00:54:54,449
>> yeah, our biggest concern is just the labor involved.

499
00:54:54,449 --> 00:55:01,523
so that's what we're trying to coordinate and take a phased approach to it.

500
00:55:01,523 --> 00:55:09,650
that's our best strategy. >> just one more question. You said we had 3500 square

501
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:13,202
feet that this was going to affect. >> 305,000 square feet.

502
00:55:13,202 --> 00:55:16,806
>> sorry. 305,000 square feet. How many thousands of square

503
00:55:16,806 --> 00:55:20,676
feet do we have that we're watering that are not going to be affected by this?

504
00:55:20,676 --> 00:55:24,790
>> in the parks, councilmember? I'd have to come back --

505
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:28,283
>> don't have to give it to me tonight. But just to show it's nly

506
00:55:28,283 --> 00:55:31,220
going to affect this percentage of town. Let's put it in perspective.

507
00:55:31,220 --> 00:55:35,970
>> you want to know how much functional turf we're irrigating.

508
00:55:35,970 --> 00:55:40,236
>> exactly. How much functional turf are we irrigating so that we can

509
00:55:40,236 --> 00:55:43,840
say to people look, yeah, this is turning brown but we're still irrigating all

510
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,442
of this. >> would you like us to include the golf course on

511
00:55:46,442 --> 00:55:49,245
that. >> actually I'm glad you 3 asked that because tree

512
00:55:49,245 --> 00:55:52,515
inventory we didn't include the golf course. So one day, when the sun and

513
00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:57,187
the moon and the stars line up 'd love to have an inventory of the trees on

514
00:55:57,187 --> 00:56:01,457
the golf course. But right now the cost of irrigating that, absolutely,

515
00:56:01,457 --> 00:56:06,329
I like that included. So thank you very much for that.

516
00:56:06,329 --> 00:56:10,666
>> we're going to go to our very patient public for their comments before we

517
00:56:10,666 --> 00:56:18,466
come back to the council. So I'm officially opening the public comment period.

518
00:56:18,741 --> 00:56:22,811
we don't have any speaker cards for this item and we don't have any participants

519
00:56:22,811 --> 00:56:25,348
on zoom with heir hands raised. >> great.

520
00:56:25,348 --> 00:56:30,860
I happen to recognize peter alexander here. Would you like to provide

521
00:56:30,860 --> 00:56:36,686
public comment? Yes, o for it. >> you guys are setting me

522
00:56:38,494 --> 00:56:44,494
up. I mean, come on, really? You guys are amazing.

523
00:56:45,167 --> 00:56:49,967
native plants high maintenance as opposed to cactus.

524
00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:56,178
fire dangers, living cactus. Firewalls. I think you guys -- if I

525
00:56:56,178 --> 00:57:00,516
didn't know better this is a total sfup and maybe I don't know etter but I'll go

526
00:57:00,516 --> 00:57:02,118
forward. All right. Sonoma county is basically

527
00:57:02,118 --> 00:57:07,790
like the desert sort of weather area anyways for the most part.

528
00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:14,990
and cactus fences on roadways or wherever would be honoring burbank's works

529
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,739
and also common sense. Okay. I mean, most of the lawns,

530
00:57:23,739 --> 00:57:30,280
maybe not all, but most lawns to me seemingly serve as gofer habitats and places

531
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:36,351
for dogs to stop off and say hello. The cactus, there are

532
00:57:36,351 --> 00:57:42,825
gourmet restaurants in the southwest that are using cactus, all versions of it,

533
00:57:42,825 --> 00:57:48,164
the actual leaf, the plant the fruits and high-end restaurants that maybe it's

534
00:57:48,164 --> 00:57:55,370
just time for perhaps you'll be leading the way in this realm.

535
00:57:55,370 --> 00:58:01,911
needles or no needles. You've got them both. Burbank created some very

536
00:58:01,911 --> 00:58:06,449
high fruiting varieties with virtually no needles. They're quite wonderful and

537
00:58:06,449 --> 00:58:11,187
they're low glycemic. And why not have the first all sand golf course in the

538
00:58:11,187 --> 00:58:16,526
country and call it the sand trap and we'll get tiger woods over here and we'll do

539
00:58:16,526 --> 00:58:23,126
something interesting. And then this year, you can have imaginative innovative

540
00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:26,536
leadership in different realms. And lastly, I'll share the

541
00:58:26,536 --> 00:58:31,473
fact and that the reality is that you can simply examine places in santa barbara,

542
00:58:31,473 --> 00:58:36,780
many places down in southern california and a lot of arizona where they utilize

543
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:42,780
cactus and gaves as the mainstream almost virtually nonwatering landscaping

544
00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:49,691
material. All of which can produce either sugars or syrups or

545
00:58:49,691 --> 00:58:55,564
foods and what you have. So thank you for letting me bring this up one more time.

546
00:58:55,564 --> 00:58:58,901
it's available. It's easy. It works.

547
00:58:58,901 --> 00:59:02,972
and someone in sonoma county is going to be the first city to utilize this common

548
00:59:02,972 --> 00:59:07,643
sense availability that was born with luther burbank and others.

549
00:59:07,643 --> 00:59:13,449
so thank you very much. >> would anyone else like to provide public comment

550
00:59:13,449 --> 00:59:18,186
before we close the public comment period? Yes.

551
00:59:18,186 --> 00:59:23,580
you get three minutes to say whatever is on your heart. >> it will only be a

552
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:26,796
minute. I'm just wondering why don't we pull some water.

553
00:59:26,796 --> 00:59:30,533
I know this has come up before with the ocean. But why aren't we maybe

554
00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:33,736
pulling water somewhere, maybe pulling something that could ull the water we

555
00:59:33,736 --> 00:59:36,672
might have water for irrigation. That's all I'm saying.

556
00:59:36,672 --> 00:59:40,944
I know it doesn't rain a lot. But maybe when it does I

557
00:59:40,944 --> 00:59:45,748
think that would cost less what's gonna happen here. I hate to see rohnert park

558
00:59:45,748 --> 00:59:49,284
go brown. I really do. I know it's not on you it's

559
00:59:49,284 --> 00:59:53,688
up above, but we've got to do something here locally, I think.

560
00:59:53,688 --> 00:59:58,260
maybe you can think about that. Thank you.

561
00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:03,632
seeing no other interest, I will close this public comment period.

562
01:00:03,632 --> 01:00:08,303
oh, wait. We have one more. Come on up.

563
01:00:08,303 --> 01:00:13,175
it's interesting how we all inspire each other. >> I'm bruce main.

564
01:00:13,175 --> 01:00:17,312
>> I missed the part where I captured your name. >> I'm dennis maine.

565
01:00:17,312 --> 01:00:24,252
>> thank you, dennis. >> I've got comments here. I promise I'll stick to

566
01:00:24,252 --> 01:00:30,192
highlights. I want to try and persuade 3 you to keep the honeybee

567
01:00:30,192 --> 01:00:34,130
pool open this winter, particularly with regards to seniors.

568
01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:39,668
>> I should clarify that this specific topic of presentation, this

569
01:00:39,668 --> 01:00:43,405
presentation is what this public comment is. I apologize if that wasn't

570
01:00:43,405 --> 01:00:48,144
clear. Specifically about item 5a. That's what we're looking

571
01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:51,747
for public comment for right now. >> I'm sorry, will there be

572
01:00:51,747 --> 01:00:55,947
a chance to address this later? >> absolutely.

573
01:00:56,151 --> 01:00:59,955
yes. We're just a minute early. Okay.

574
01:00:59,955 --> 01:01:03,492
anything else from -- I'm officially closing that public comment period.

575
01:01:03,492 --> 01:01:09,164
we'll come back to that. Council, is there anything else you would like to ask,

576
01:01:09,164 --> 01:01:15,104
share before we proceed? Okay. We've exhausted all of our

577
01:01:15,104 --> 01:01:16,571
questions. It's amazing. >> thank you.

578
01:01:16,571 --> 01:01:21,371
>> thank you for the presentations, thank you both.

579
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:26,315
okay. Now go on to item 6, which is our public comment

580
01:01:26,315 --> 01:01:28,784
period. I will just read this again to be clear.

581
01:01:28,784 --> 01:01:34,123
so anyone wanting to address the council on any consent calendar item or anything

582
01:01:34,123 --> 01:01:40,610
that is not listed on the agenda, now's your chance. And you'll get three

583
01:01:40,610 --> 01:01:43,470
minutes. And for those attending in person, thank you f you did

584
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:50,343
fill out a speaker card. Not required but helpful. And those on zoom, you can

585
01:01:50,343 --> 01:01:54,548
raise your hand virtually right now by pressing star no. 994.

586
01:01:54,548 --> 01:01:59,486
and the clerk will unmute you when it's your turn. Okay.

587
01:01:59,486 --> 01:02:06,686
so we're going to go to mr. Peter alexander. >> thank you, mayor.

588
01:02:16,369 --> 01:02:22,176
through the eyes of horse whisperer robert redford, yes, I have seen and here's

589
01:02:22,176 --> 01:02:28,716
what I saw before and after he shot hee haw. A baby donkey who wished

590
01:02:28,716 --> 01:02:33,253
like pinocchio to be a eal boy. Have you watched his vdeos?

591
01:02:33,253 --> 01:02:38,592
he was but filled with true love and great joy. Now, the speaker before you

592
01:02:38,592 --> 01:02:43,620
was peter whom I know and showed up to instruct him to his dream.

593
01:02:43,620 --> 01:02:49,736
and me surprisingly hanging out with some rather serious warrior angels serving the

594
01:02:49,736 --> 01:02:54,941
almighty supreme. Told me please, what is greater than love, most

595
01:02:54,941 --> 01:02:59,213
true? So please play youtube, dolly parton on hee haw

596
01:02:59,213 --> 01:03:02,616
singing I will always love you. And how about that ring of

597
01:03:02,616 --> 01:03:12,216
fire by brother johnny cash, sang it on hee haw, quite emissive and quite a smash.

598
01:03:13,961 --> 01:03:20,233
the rim fire is also 369 active volcanos lining a horseshoe curve what kind of

599
01:03:20,233 --> 01:03:26,973
entity kills snnt equines, such horror and such nerve. And let's remember the

600
01:03:26,973 --> 01:03:32,379
smoothers brothers so to anal lovers google your noodle to them with mule

601
01:03:32,379 --> 01:03:37,718
sounds on hee haw and so too. Winnie the pooh and eeyore

602
01:03:37,718 --> 01:03:40,988
possessing truth and love t the core. Yes indeed every donkey is

603
01:03:40,988 --> 01:03:45,592
absolutely more humble and honest and loving than most any human monkey.

604
01:03:45,592 --> 01:03:52,533
wasn't it he in a manger with hee haw by his side when born, ater writing

605
01:03:52,533 --> 01:03:56,403
triumphantly upon a hee haw before they crossed him of his life so torn.

606
01:03:56,403 --> 01:04:04,203
my temple church of the emerald fire sharing truth and love with carmeno

607
01:04:06,146 --> 01:04:13,346
salcedo taking us higher, uniting all true warrior servants singing ave maria

608
01:04:14,421 --> 01:04:20,427
with true spirit and soul and so the promised lands gardens being our goal the

609
01:04:20,427 --> 01:04:25,298
path is now all life is sacred from the whale to the sparrow from the redwood

610
01:04:25,298 --> 01:04:29,436
tree to the cactus is genuine kindness so difficult to practice.

611
01:04:29,436 --> 01:04:34,974
my crusaders, my knights my veterans my warriors are the champions of the world under

612
01:04:34,974 --> 01:04:41,181
the red white and blue unfurld. Turn up the music release

613
01:04:41,181 --> 01:04:48,381
thee christow's power. Rosebred, rose, bud flower. My women warriors like my

614
01:04:49,590 --> 01:04:53,259
daughters from beyond and above. Cease now all animal abuse

615
01:04:53,259 --> 01:04:58,532
so too the donkey mustang horse slaughter it is done a ho.

616
01:04:58,532 --> 01:05:04,337
not long ago you were some of you were reduced to carmin know salcedo.

617
01:05:04,337 --> 01:05:07,875
who I had the pleasure of knowing a little bit I just wanted to let you know that

618
01:05:07,875 --> 01:05:11,611
she is had her birthday two days ago and she is where she started off when she got

619
01:05:11,611 --> 01:05:15,415
famous in the petaluma valley hospital and she's not looking for a handout

620
01:05:15,415 --> 01:05:18,951
but maybe a hand up. She's still there. And I want to share one last

621
01:05:18,951 --> 01:05:23,957
thing and that is that I was given from the most high last thing.

622
01:05:23,957 --> 01:05:27,827
>> times up. >> thank you, mr mr. Alexander.

623
01:05:27,827 --> 01:05:33,232
ms. Beth mccain, would you like to speak next? And after that, we'll have

624
01:05:33,232 --> 01:05:38,632
veronica madson. >> thank you city council for having me.

625
01:05:38,905 --> 01:05:43,776
I'm not here to talk about walmart, surprise. I want to start by

626
01:05:43,776 --> 01:05:46,460
acknowledging that homelessness is a deeply human issue.

627
01:05:46,460 --> 01:05:53,119
people who are living in vehicles or outdoors are obviously facing serious

628
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,523
hardships. And I believe any response should be respectful

629
01:05:56,523 --> 01:06:01,923
compassionate and connected to services. That being said, our

630
01:06:02,929 --> 01:06:08,401
neighborhood, which is by walmart, emily and eleanor, has been experiencing

631
01:06:08,401 --> 01:06:14,674
growing impacts that we need help addressing. Emily where you enter

632
01:06:14,674 --> 01:06:23,674
mountain shadows plaza has become an rv parking lot. Not only rvs, cars, vans, et

633
01:06:24,485 --> 01:06:28,756
cetera. We currently have an rv that has been there for I'm going

634
01:06:28,756 --> 01:06:34,156
to say approximately three weeks. It runs a generator.

635
01:06:34,494 --> 01:06:40,434
it has pproximately six to eight dogs in it with people.

636
01:06:40,434 --> 01:06:47,306
there is an extremely strong odor and possible issues of sanitation or dumping

637
01:06:47,306 --> 01:06:52,106
concerns that multiple neighbors have observed and reported.

638
01:06:52,779 --> 01:06:58,118
so over time, we've een all of these vehicles and often what we see s they pull up

639
01:06:58,118 --> 01:07:03,724
and they start unloading. And they pull almost all their belongings out.

640
01:07:03,724 --> 01:07:11,524
but these belongings also include gas cans, propane tanks, hich feels like it

641
01:07:11,597 --> 01:07:17,537
creates a broader safety concern. Now, I'm not making n

642
01:07:17,537 --> 01:07:21,941
assumptions about anyone's intent, but the combination of long-term vehicle

643
01:07:21,941 --> 01:07:28,415
parking, generator use, fuel containers, propane tanks, multiple animal odor and

644
01:07:28,415 --> 01:07:33,353
possible dumping do raise concerns for us as a neighborhood.

645
01:07:33,353 --> 01:07:39,359
and including animal welfare as part of that. Neighbors have contacted

646
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:44,831
rohnert park public safety through nonemergency lines. We've also submitted items

647
01:07:44,831 --> 01:07:51,304
through the city channel. The most recent one, which I actually submitted yesterday

648
01:07:51,304 --> 01:07:59,320
and this never happens but I got an answer today, was that this is homelessness

649
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,657
which is an option on your reporting site is not a code compliant issue and they

650
01:08:03,657 --> 01:08:07,461
will contact public safety. Well my commentary just on that report I got oday is

651
01:08:07,461 --> 01:08:10,640
if it's not code compliance, why is it on there to submit?

652
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,536
we're not asking the city to criminalize homelessness or month of people along, but

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we're asking to find a balance and a coordinated response that provides

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outreach services, safety reviews, animal welfare reviews, and enforcement of

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01:08:27,548 --> 01:08:32,948
reasonable health safety parking dumping, noise and nuisance rules.

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01:08:34,355 --> 01:08:39,260
the nuisance we're pertaining to ere the dogs running free.

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and thank you. >> thank you for the extra details on that.

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I'm sure chief can connect with you if he hasn't already.

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okay. We have dennis. Thank you so much for your

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01:08:56,310 --> 01:09:00,380
patience. >> I feel like I was just here.

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01:09:00,380 --> 01:09:04,586
my apologize. No poetry here. Some quick excerpts.

662
01:09:04,586 --> 01:09:10,525
as I said earlier, I'm here to try to persuade you o keep the honeybee pool open

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01:09:10,525 --> 01:09:14,395
this winter, particularly relating to seniors. Some quotes here that I got

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from articles when I went trolling. Swimming is one of the

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01:09:19,667 --> 01:09:24,872
safest and most effective exercises for seniors, offering full body fitness

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01:09:24,872 --> 01:09:29,810
joint protection and krvr benefits from living your senior life july 27 this

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01:09:29,810 --> 01:09:34,610
year. Swimming provides full impact, low impactful ody

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01:09:34,948 --> 01:09:38,685
workout. Regular swimming increases flexibility, range of motion

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01:09:38,685 --> 01:09:43,557
and balance. Cardiovascular and metabolic health, which raising heart

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01:09:43,557 --> 01:09:48,762
rate, improving circulation, lowering blood pressure. This ontributes to lower

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01:09:48,762 --> 01:09:54,162
heart disease and stroke. Improved cholesterol level. Weight management.

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01:09:54,768 --> 01:09:58,305
metabolic health. It helps with mental health. I can vouch for all this

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01:09:58,305 --> 01:10:00,774
stuff too. I swim. I'm 71.

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01:10:00,774 --> 01:10:06,174
I feel great. Most dys. It promotes mental health.

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01:10:08,116 --> 01:10:12,453
it's considered because of reducing stress and improving mood enhancing

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01:10:12,453 --> 01:10:16,657
sleep quality. The next article quoting is from the johns hopkins

677
01:10:16,657 --> 01:10:23,857
medicine webpage talking about how swimming can give you cardiovascular to build

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01:10:24,198 --> 01:10:27,100
strength with almost no impact. The real plus especially as

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01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:31,538
you get older, which we all hope you do. People recover from injuries

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01:10:31,538 --> 01:10:34,608
and women after pregnancy can also gain from a water workout.

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01:10:34,608 --> 01:10:39,546
final point. Negative effects of seniors stopping exercise for three

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01:10:39,546 --> 01:10:44,551
months from the science news today may 20th, 2025. Stopping exercise for three

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01:10:44,551 --> 01:10:48,955
months can lead to several negative effects n bodies including increased risk of

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01:10:48,955 --> 01:10:54,355
falls, accelerated muscle and bone loss. Higher disease risk,

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01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,366
cognitive decline because lack of physical activity is linked to cognitive decline

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01:10:59,366 --> 01:11:04,905
and worsened mental health because it's a good way to blow off your anger or steam

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01:11:04,905 --> 01:11:09,577
or tiredness or whatever. You get in the water. Do your 50 and you're

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01:11:09,577 --> 01:11:14,377
feeling pretty good. That's it. Thank you much.

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01:11:14,781 --> 01:11:20,781
please do keep in consideration. I'll leave the full thing.

690
01:11:21,187 --> 01:11:29,462
>> thank you very much. We can all work on improving our spoken word poetry.

691
01:11:29,462 --> 01:11:34,670
does anybody online want to provide public comment? All right.

692
01:11:34,670 --> 01:11:39,720
we are going to go ahead and close this public comment period and move to the next

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01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,672
item. Yes, you're inspired. Go ahead.

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01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:52,279
>> hi. My name is veronica madsen. I live at 3767 emily avenue.

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01:11:54,154 --> 01:11:59,760
I could see this trailer from my house I have a child who's 22.

696
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,298
a female. I frequent the area to go to walmart and I feel

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01:12:05,298 --> 01:12:09,704
endangered. So I hope our public safety could help us please I don't

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01:12:09,704 --> 01:12:13,307
want anybody, if they're homeless or don't have a house, to be kicked out.

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01:12:13,307 --> 01:12:16,844
so please just make the area safer. We gist want the city to

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01:12:16,844 --> 01:12:24,644
maybe follow up with us, like maybe what is documented maybe what he

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01:12:24,984 --> 01:12:28,989
you're doing, maybe get some more answers from you would be good because it seems

702
01:12:28,989 --> 01:12:33,660
like the same people would just keep calling and keep calling or emailing in and I

703
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:36,863
have a brand new rv and I park it in front of my house.

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01:12:36,863 --> 01:12:44,400
and day two, I have a ticket that I need to move it. I don't think that's fair.

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:52,879
so I just hope city council, if you could and public safety, I know maybe it's

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01:12:52,879 --> 01:12:56,216
not a priority because they're out there doing other things that might be a

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01:12:56,216 --> 01:12:59,152
higher priority. But when it's a danger to walk over there nd the

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01:12:59,152 --> 01:13:02,156
people that live over there in those condos, the backside.

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01:13:02,156 --> 01:13:06,494
I'm not sure if you're familiar with that area. So I believe it's the

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01:13:06,494 --> 01:13:11,831
1,000-block of emily there. Yeah. I mean, I guarantee you, if

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01:13:11,831 --> 01:13:19,310
they're parked in one of your neighborhoods, d section, f section, h

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01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:25,578
section, that rv would be gone in a day. So please just try better.

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that's all we ask. Thank you. >> anyone else want to

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01:13:28,782 --> 01:13:34,782
provide public comment? Okay. I will go ahead and close

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01:13:36,723 --> 01:13:42,996
public comment period. And appropriate, not appropriate to ask chief to

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01:13:42,996 --> 01:13:47,734
give a quick statement on what the rules are or the process is.

717
01:13:47,734 --> 01:13:53,140
>> mayor, I would suggest that the chief follow up. I know there's been follow

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01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:55,943
up. I'm sure that as time permits right now he will

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meet with the group here. >> thanks in advance, chief.

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01:14:03,757 --> 01:14:07,895
>> then we're going to move on to item 7 our onsent calendar.

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I'm looking for a motion to approve the consent calendar as it is unless somebody

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01:14:12,499 --> 01:14:16,371
wants to pull an item for discussion or otherwise. >> so moved.

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01:14:16,371 --> 01:14:21,410
>> I'll second that. >> lovely. All those in favor.

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01:14:21,410 --> 01:14:23,441
>> any opposed? Okay. Passes 50.

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01:14:28,848 --> 01:14:33,787
and we're going to go on to item 8. Our regular item.

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01:14:33,787 --> 01:14:40,260
starting with eight a and that is going to be consideration of and

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01:14:40,260 --> 01:14:45,660
approval of resolution 2026-72. Adopting the city of rohnert

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01:14:45,732 --> 01:14:49,932
park's urban forest management plan. Hello, team.

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01:14:50,804 --> 01:14:55,604
welcome back. And do the honor of introdu

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,686
introducing our friend from davey resource group, I would appreciate that.

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01:15:05,686 --> 01:15:13,260
I don't know if we got him a name badge. >> good evening, mayor and

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01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:18,565
council. My name is amanda bunte. I'm the general services

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operations manager in public works. I'm joined here today by

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01:15:23,236 --> 01:15:26,907
michael cappon from davey resource group, which is our consultant, and scott

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01:15:26,907 --> 01:15:32,179
sanders, our environmental sustainability manager. We will be presenting to you

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01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:37,317
this evening our urban forest management plan. So we contracted with davey

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01:15:37,317 --> 01:15:41,388
resource group about 14 months ago and have been working on this plan and are

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01:15:41,388 --> 01:15:48,588
very proud to bring it forward this evening. >> thank you, good evening,

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thank you madam mayor, madam vice mayor, councilmembers, for the opportunity to be

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here and talk to you about this plan. It's been a pleasure working

741
01:16:01,141 --> 01:16:05,612
with amanda and scott and brandon and other members of the city to develop this

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01:16:05,612 --> 01:16:10,884
plan over the past year or so. So the goal of today is to

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01:16:10,884 --> 01:16:17,157
go over the general project scope and talk about a ew things like the project

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01:16:17,157 --> 01:16:21,895
timeline, go over some community engagement summaries and the real core

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01:16:21,895 --> 01:16:24,631
will be looking at the recommendations that are in the plan.

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and then afterwards, of course, questions. So when we're looking at a

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01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:41,314
project as big as a management plan that takes over a year to develop, we

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01:16:41,314 --> 01:16:44,617
break it down and look at it really through four categories.

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01:16:44,617 --> 01:16:48,656
so, the first of these four categories is the background and operations review.

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01:16:48,656 --> 01:16:53,659
this includes reviewing existing city documents, policies, but also talking

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01:16:53,659 --> 01:17:00,333
directly to staff and finding out how forestry functions on a day-to-day

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01:17:00,333 --> 01:17:03,336
basis. We worked with staff across multiple city departments to

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01:17:03,336 --> 01:17:08,275
understand how they interact with the urban forest and where responsibilities

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01:17:08,275 --> 01:17:10,678
overlap, and here there's opportunities for better coordination.

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the second major component is the canopy analysis. This is where we're taking a

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01:17:15,482 --> 01:17:24,223
look rom downard-looking imagery and lidar to take a look at what the land in

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01:17:24,223 --> 01:17:29,496
rohnert park is made up of. So we take a look at canopy and how it's distributed

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across the city. And also we take a look at not just the trees that are

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01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:37,703
there but the benefits that come from those trees like urban heat reduction and

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01:17:37,703 --> 01:17:41,108
stormwater mitigation. Equity is also examined in this process, helping us

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01:17:41,108 --> 01:17:44,111
identify where additional planting could provide the greatest community benefit.

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all of this came together in a priority planting plan, which is a tool that the

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city can use to make sure that future plantings are better focused where they'll

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have the greatest community impact. The third component was

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stakeholder and community engagement. This is where we developed a

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plan including outreach materials and online community surveys and

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community workshops. Engagement helped us understand community

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priorities, concerns and input eventually would be paired with all the

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technical analysis and develop he recommendations to the plan.

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another thing I wanted to mention that is in support of this plan is that the

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city is currently working to develop an urban forestry subsite and story map that

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will further serve community engagement. So after all this, the final

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goal is to develop this into a working urban forest management plan.

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the recommendations that we will discuss later, they don't stand alone, they are

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01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:45,305
the result of bringing 3 together technical analysis, operational review, policy

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01:18:45,305 --> 01:18:48,842
review, staff input and community feedback. From there, we developed an

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implementation framework that ives the city a realistic path to put those

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recommendations into practice over time. As I mentioned, this is

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about a year, a little more than a year timeline. The project kicked off in

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july of 2025, with the first several months focused primarily on understanding

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the existing urban forest conditions. We did that through that

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urban forest assessment, interviews with city staff and doing policies and

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operations reviews. From the fall through or through early 2026, the

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project shifted to community engagement with the launch of community survey and the

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community workshop both virtual and in person. When all these items are

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done, we brought them together and to develop a draft one, which was

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submitted to the city in march. The following months were involved with city

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review and refinement of the plan until the final plan was delivered in august of

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2026. Now we're here, where we're talking about the details of

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the plan. Before going into more detail, I did want to cover

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community engagement because it's important and as was mentioned earlier making

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01:20:06,853 --> 01:20:10,791
sure that the community knows what's going on is vital to the success of any

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initiative. So part of this plan, the engagement, as I mentioned

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before, it involved not only an online survey, it involved an in-person

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01:20:18,541 --> 01:20:22,277
community meeting and then a virtual community meeting. I do want to acknowledge

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that participation in the online survey was very low and that participation in

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the virtual meeting was very limited as well. So taking that into

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consideration, we made sure that the recommendations and items that we heard were

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referenced in the lan but they didn't -- we did not take them as an overall

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01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:48,370
representative of rohnert park. So it doesn't mean that

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those conversations weren't valuable and that they aren't shown in the plan.

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so we're going to talk about where is rohnert park's forest today.

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so right now, rohnert park imagines about 16,000 public trees, which is a good

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01:21:09,258 --> 01:21:17,580
amount of public trees for a smaller city. And it has a 14% canopy

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01:21:17,532 --> 01:21:20,680
cover. One of the things that stands out when we look at

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the data, one of the key data that stands out is that the public inventory has a

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concentration of a few dominant species, particularly coast redwood,

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which makes up almost a third of the inventory population.

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so these numbers about the trees and the makeup of the land gives us the baseline

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to move forward into developing a recommendation. So the recommendations

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themselves which are the core of the lan are established a long-term

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vision, but they are intended to be practical and implementable over a phased

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period. So cross the recommendations, there are a

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few consistent themes creating a more coordinated city wide approach to

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managing the urban forest, moving from reactive to proactive maintenance,

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preparing a long-term canopy stability and creating a shared responsibility across

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01:22:21,997 --> 01:22:29,197
city departments nd with the community for the stewardship of the forest.

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so the plan includes ten recommendations and I just wanted to make sure we gave

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ample time o go through these and give you as much information as I could.

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so the first recommendation is to establish a dedicated urban forestry division

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within the public works. So this recommendation really set the

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organizational foundation for everything else that's recommended in the plan.

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right now tree responsibilities are spread across forestry, parks,

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01:22:59,701 --> 01:23:03,839
streetscapes and with each doing some level of tree-related work.

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01:23:03,839 --> 01:23:08,177
the issue is there's no single program with comprehensive responsibility

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for urban forestry. So coordination often happens as an as needed 3

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basis rather than through a formal structure. The plan recommends bringing

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overall responsibility under a dedicated urban forestry division within public

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works. That doesn't mean other departments will stop

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01:23:28,997 --> 01:23:35,670
working on trees, parks, streets, planning and all other will have important

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01:23:35,670 --> 01:23:40,476
goals with the urban forest. What changes is there's one clearly identified lead

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responsible for city-owned trees, standards, coordination and long-term

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01:23:43,745 --> 01:23:48,840
management. This is an important first step because many of these

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recommendations followed depend on having an organizational structure and

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accountability in place. I need a drink. It's a long one.

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recommendations two. Expand urban forestry staffing.

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once the organizational structure is established, the next question is whether

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the city has staff capacity to support it. Right now, the city has a

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relatively small core forestry sat with parks, seasonal staff and

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01:24:16,712 --> 01:24:20,381
contractors helping supplement capacity. The planning is not

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01:24:20,381 --> 01:24:23,652
recommending that the city immediately hire a large number of people.

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01:24:23,652 --> 01:24:28,390
instead, it recommendation a tiered staffing strategy where positions are added

843
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:32,194
when funding becomes available. The staffing structure plan

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shows, in the plan, shows one potential path for growth.

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including additional tree-focused field positions.

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01:24:42,937 --> 01:24:49,344
as capacity grows, the city can progressively take on more positive proactive

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01:24:49,344 --> 01:24:53,349
pruning and inspections, planting and other work. The recommendation also

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connects staffing with training and advancement. So employees have a pathway

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to build skills and move up within the program. It's the important point is

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that staffing, funding and workload need to grow together.

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number three, formalize arborist authority and define intersmart venting

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01:25:24,379 --> 01:25:26,848
rules. The recommendation is about clarifying who has authority

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01:25:26,848 --> 01:25:30,318
to make the tree-related decisions. The operations review

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01:25:30,318 --> 01:25:34,524
identified uncertainty where forestry intersects with street planning, development

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01:25:34,524 --> 01:25:38,600
and infrastructure projects. That led to delays and inconsistent outcomes, and

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01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,663
decisions being handled differently from one situation to another.

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01:25:41,663 --> 01:25:48,336
the plan recommends formally defining the city arborist authority for things like

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01:25:48,336 --> 01:25:52,474
removals, pruning standards as well as clearly establishing when arborist

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01:25:52,474 --> 01:25:56,612
reviews need to occur. For development and capital projects, the key is getting

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01:25:56,612 --> 01:26:00,216
the arborist involved early in the process. It's much easier to design

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01:26:00,216 --> 01:26:04,619
around tree and resolve infrastructure conflicts during the planning rather

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01:26:04,619 --> 01:26:11,219
than after everything is designed and established. This isn't about adding

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01:26:11,627 --> 01:26:17,365
another approval layer. It's about creating a clear and predictable decision

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pathway across departments. Number four, implement proactive maintenance cycles

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and measurable benchmarks. There's recommendations about moving from a reactive

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to proactive maintenance. Right now, much of the tree work s driven by service

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requests, safety concerns, or immediate issues, rather than a scheduled maintenance

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t inventory information we have shows the scale of the need that the city has.

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more than 70% of the city trees were identified as large trees in need of

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routine pruning. The plan recommends working towards a five-year pruning

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01:26:55,481 --> 01:26:58,485
cycle. That meaning every year roughly 20% of the trees are

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01:26:58,485 --> 01:27:03,289
pruned. That gives the city an actual benchmark to plan

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staffing, contracting and budgets around. Treekeeper can track

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01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,164
progress and whether the city is actually meeting these identified goals.

875
01:27:12,164 --> 01:27:17,103
and in the long term they can -- the long-term goal is to address routine needs

876
01:27:17,103 --> 01:27:21,303
before they become costly emergencies. Number five.

877
01:27:24,444 --> 01:27:28,644
invest in training, certification and safety compliance.

878
01:27:28,714 --> 01:27:33,385
as the city builds staffing capacity, it will need to make sure growth is

879
01:27:33,385 --> 01:27:37,190
supported by appropriate training, qualifications and safety practices.

880
01:27:37,190 --> 01:27:41,861
the operations reviews found that training budgets have been limited and that safety

881
01:27:41,861 --> 01:27:46,733
training nd documentation need to be formalized. Tree work is specialized and

882
01:27:46,733 --> 01:27:53,333
potentially hazardous work. So the recommendation includes a baseline of arbor

883
01:27:54,741 --> 01:27:59,145
culture safety training for staff performing this work. That includes alignment with

884
01:27:59,145 --> 01:28:05,145
industry standards like the ansi z 133 and other best practices.

885
01:28:05,418 --> 01:28:10,900
beyond the safety, recommendation continue training in pruning, data

886
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:13,692
tracking climbing, aerial lift operations and technical skills.

887
01:28:13,692 --> 01:28:17,497
there's also an important workforce development benefit.

888
01:28:17,497 --> 01:28:21,434
training and certification gives the employees that expertise and the ability to

889
01:28:21,434 --> 01:28:25,370
advance. Overall, this recommendation supports the safer

890
01:28:25,370 --> 01:28:29,237
operations and long-term employee development. Recommendation seven.

891
01:28:35,448 --> 01:28:41,454
modernize work order and integration across systems. Currently, right now, the

892
01:28:41,454 --> 01:28:47,193
city data is supported across multiple different platforms, gov outreach,

893
01:28:47,193 --> 01:28:52,593
mobile mmis. And this leads to difficult sometimes manual

894
01:28:53,660 --> 01:28:56,469
communication between the two systems. We are roposing that

895
01:28:56,469 --> 01:28:59,605
treekeeper become the central reporting system for all tree-related items

896
01:28:59,605 --> 01:29:05,812
making sure that tree data is tracked and usable and actionable to support both

897
01:29:05,812 --> 01:29:10,120
budgetary and resource information. Number eight, right-of-way

898
01:29:14,621 --> 01:29:20,159
tree infrastructure. We're recommending that the city assume ownership of

899
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:25,970
right-of-way trees by an alteration of municipal code chapter 1224.

900
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:29,969
the reason we're advocating for this is because it gives the city more control and

901
01:29:29,969 --> 01:29:35,975
more leeway to make decisions when it comes to the trees in the public

902
01:29:35,975 --> 01:29:40,713
right-of-way. Standard -- it will allow for a standardized

903
01:29:40,713 --> 01:29:44,851
infrastructure conflict response to make sure that everything from

904
01:29:44,851 --> 01:29:51,925
accessibility to tree protection and the needs of the community are considered

905
01:29:51,925 --> 01:29:56,129
when there are infrastructure output. And we also make sure that

906
01:29:56,129 --> 01:30:03,470
we are planting better trees and managing the problem before the trees start to

907
01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:09,470
see the tide wall. And recommendation nine, framework and ordinance

908
01:30:12,110 --> 01:30:14,814
clarity. So one of the things that came through this process is

909
01:30:14,814 --> 01:30:20,820
realizing that there's a lot of confusion when comes to the tree protection code.

910
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:26,820
we are recommending that there be a strengthened tree protection

911
01:30:27,694 --> 01:30:35,494
protection ordinance that is on the public and private property that allows for

912
01:30:36,302 --> 01:30:39,240
mitigation requirements to make sure that canopy loss is prevented wherever

913
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:44,400
possible. And then ten, expand community engagement and

914
01:31:12,605 --> 01:31:19,279
shared stewardship. So the goal is always that a forest is not just on the

915
01:31:19,279 --> 01:31:24,790
public property, 16,000 trees don't represent the entire forest.

916
01:31:24,830 --> 01:31:31,291
you need to engage both developers and private property owners and hoas to

917
01:31:31,291 --> 01:31:37,296
make sure that they look at the forest as their own and it's a shared stewardship.

918
01:31:37,296 --> 01:31:46,896
you do this by building on already sfunl events such as the existing arbor day and

919
01:31:48,575 --> 01:31:54,847
establishing formal partnerships with hoas and developers to make sure that

920
01:31:54,847 --> 01:32:01,447
items like tree survival rates and establishment success is part of

921
01:32:03,589 --> 01:32:07,393
standardized procedures and making sure that really you are building a sense of

922
01:32:07,393 --> 01:32:11,131
shared stewardship. Not just between the city and community but the city

923
01:32:11,131 --> 01:32:18,931
and its other stakeholders. So all these recommendations are not intended to be

924
01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:27,279
implemented right away. That's not going to work. With he developed a tiered

925
01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:31,150
structure with some overlap because in reality, some things will process faster

926
01:32:31,150 --> 01:32:38,837
than others. And so we break that down into four different -- five

927
01:32:38,837 --> 01:32:41,973
different pages, first the -- four different phases, sorry, first is the

928
01:32:41,973 --> 01:32:46,979
foundation, the second, capacity, and then operations and then long

929
01:32:46,979 --> 01:32:52,510
term. So the foundation phase, you're creating the policies

930
01:32:52,510 --> 01:32:58,123
and the authority, funding systems necessary to transition from reactive to

931
01:32:58,123 --> 01:33:03,262
strategic management. So this is where you are establishing that urban

932
01:33:03,262 --> 01:33:07,466
forest division, defining responsibilities, and you're creating stable funding

933
01:33:07,466 --> 01:33:15,407
mechanisms to make sure that the funding is there to support the program needs.

934
01:33:15,407 --> 01:33:19,211
capacity phase. This is where you're expanding the city's ability

935
01:33:19,211 --> 01:33:25,211
to deliver the forestry service, incrementally growing forestry staff and

936
01:33:27,419 --> 01:33:31,423
clarifying ownership and responsibility for the right-of-way trees and

937
01:33:31,423 --> 01:33:36,228
updating municipal code to strengthen tree protection policies and invest in staff

938
01:33:36,228 --> 01:33:40,833
training and certification to continue growing the department.

939
01:33:40,833 --> 01:33:47,706
the operations phase. This is where everything starts to get move and where

940
01:33:47,706 --> 01:33:50,842
the city moves from reactive maintenance to proactive maintenance.

941
01:33:50,842 --> 01:33:56,782
where the five year pruning cycle where 20 percent of the trees are being pruned

942
01:33:56,782 --> 01:34:00,252
every year starts to be not only implemented but tracked. Where you're

943
01:34:00,252 --> 01:34:05,257
looking to reduce maintenance backlogs and that's how you're defining

944
01:34:05,257 --> 01:34:10,620
success, integrating structured succession to make sure you're not just

945
01:34:10,620 --> 01:34:15,000
planning for today but you're planting and planning for the forest in 20 to 30

946
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:20,720
years from now and expanding public outreach. And then lastly, it's the

947
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:26,746
longer term phase. This is where you are maintaining and growing and

948
01:34:26,746 --> 01:34:33,346
improving through data and best operational practices. You're looking to sustain

949
01:34:34,352 --> 01:34:40,225
funding and staffing, you're looking for continued structured succession plan

950
01:34:40,225 --> 01:34:47,432
to make sure that what is happening now will live long past this 25-year mark.

951
01:34:47,432 --> 01:34:53,572
you're using good -- using good data and tracking long-term success to make

952
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:56,975
decisions not just based on what you see but what the data is telling you.

953
01:34:56,975 --> 01:35:01,847
and then where you're looking how you can best integrate trees into

954
01:35:01,847 --> 01:35:07,247
infrastructure planning and capital projects, and then strengthen community

955
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:13,325
stewardship because the key is to make sure that everyone looks at rohnert

956
01:35:13,325 --> 01:35:17,396
park's urban forest as their urban forest. Something that's valuable to

957
01:35:17,396 --> 01:35:20,999
them, something that they want to protect, and something that they know

958
01:35:20,999 --> 01:35:26,137
they need to keep around for their children and their children to come.

959
01:35:26,137 --> 01:35:30,937
that's all I've got. Thank you. >> all right.

960
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:40,419
questions? Who, what, where, when, why, how, and then we go to public comment

961
01:35:40,419 --> 01:35:46,959
and then we'll come back to the exciting comments. >> no questions, mayor.

962
01:35:46,959 --> 01:35:54,566
>> I might have a question. I guess I can't say that was a great report because

963
01:35:54,566 --> 01:35:58,437
that's not a question, right. You were talking about a

964
01:35:58,437 --> 01:36:01,906
five-year pruning cycle. What's our pruning cycle right now?

965
01:36:01,906 --> 01:36:03,976
>> there's no pruning cycle. >> okay.

966
01:36:03,976 --> 01:36:10,315
all right. That's what I was tinking. >> right now there's no

967
01:36:10,315 --> 01:36:14,515
cyc cycleal pruning -- >> o when something

968
01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:23,119
happens they -- right. You were talking about not just city trees but making

969
01:36:24,864 --> 01:36:32,404
sure all of our stakeholders are brought in, h hocthat everybody is part of this

970
01:36:32,404 --> 01:36:41,404
tree kind of a not a tree master plan but the whole process before us.

971
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,286
how do you and other neighborhoods go out n the community and talk about

972
01:36:47,286 --> 01:36:52,559
this nd bring them? Because as you saw when you held sessions before, there

973
01:36:52,559 --> 01:36:57,563
was not this overwhelming rush of people to come in talk about this obviously

974
01:36:57,563 --> 01:37:01,633
what is so very passionate to you. How do we go out into our

975
01:37:01,633 --> 01:37:07,633
community and get some buy-in? >> that's why you build on

976
01:37:08,773 --> 01:37:15,373
successful events and then holding individual events like community workshops and

977
01:37:17,716 --> 01:37:23,589
any sort of specifically identified event, it's tough to get the engagement.

978
01:37:23,589 --> 01:37:28,193
but when you're there and you're popping up at events where there's already

979
01:37:28,193 --> 01:37:31,130
people, that's where ou can start to have the conversation.

980
01:37:31,130 --> 01:37:35,801
and that's where you can really start to build a little bit more momentum and

981
01:37:35,801 --> 01:37:42,875
get some buy-in. Asking people to show up is difficult, but showing up to

982
01:37:42,875 --> 01:37:46,811
where people already are is a good way to start the conversation.

983
01:37:46,811 --> 01:37:52,217
>> I like that. Thank you very much. >> and just to add, we're

984
01:37:52,217 --> 01:37:55,354
doing another stage of a story map that actually takes all the data we've

985
01:37:55,354 --> 01:38:00,826
been collecting and gives it in a presentable format for the public. That's our next

986
01:38:00,826 --> 01:38:05,300
stage is to create this website which will be a hub where residents can come to

987
01:38:05,300 --> 01:38:10,236
and see the urban forest for themselves and hopefully get more connection to it.

988
01:38:10,236 --> 01:38:16,374
>> I think schools would be a great place as well. Because kids are all about

989
01:38:16,374 --> 01:38:24,174
the environment and trees >> that's what was so great about all the middle

990
01:38:25,383 --> 01:38:29,787
schoolers that came to arbor day this year and now they get to ook at those trees

991
01:38:29,787 --> 01:38:32,990
in front of the community center every time they drive by.

992
01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:38,396
>> any questions? Okay. We will go to the public. I don't see any public

993
01:38:38,396 --> 01:38:42,682
comment cards, but I'm officially opening public comment period.

994
01:38:42,682 --> 01:38:47,487
if anybody here would like to speak or if there's anybody online who would

995
01:38:47,487 --> 01:38:50,757
like to speak >> we don't have any speaker cards or comments at

996
01:38:50,757 --> 01:38:56,757
this time. >> if I recall correctly, we need to give 30

997
01:38:57,230 --> 01:39:00,766
seconds -- we can close it, okay. Just be wanted to double

998
01:39:00,766 --> 01:39:03,766
check. Back to comments. >> yay.

999
01:39:06,973 --> 01:39:11,710
a long time ago we planted a bunch of trees, no plan, no include, no nothing, just a

1000
01:39:11,710 --> 01:39:16,516
bunch of trees now I have a bunch of trees including all of those redwoods and

1001
01:39:16,516 --> 01:39:19,318
they're in dire need of attention. So thank you for addressing

1002
01:39:19,318 --> 01:39:24,925
this issue. And I think this is a great opportunity to partner with

1003
01:39:24,925 --> 01:39:30,630
ssu if there are opportunities for kids to do internships et cetera

1004
01:39:30,630 --> 01:39:34,333
partnering with the center for environmental inquiry and others over at the

1005
01:39:34,333 --> 01:39:36,802
university that would be great. I love recommendation 8

1006
01:39:36,802 --> 01:39:39,873
getting control of the right-of-way. We've seen this repeated in

1007
01:39:39,873 --> 01:39:43,544
a number of different things whether it's sound walls or whatever where all of a

1008
01:39:43,544 --> 01:39:48,682
sudden we realize we don't have the right-of-way in these instances but yet at

1009
01:39:48,682 --> 01:39:52,151
the end of the day the residents are gonna say this is your problem.

1010
01:39:52,151 --> 01:39:58,958
and so just recognizing that all of it is our concern, I think is really important.

1011
01:39:58,958 --> 01:40:05,231
and just thank you for the real hard work. I appreciate it, and I will

1012
01:40:05,231 --> 01:40:09,969
hope that you have shared this or will share this with the planning commission

1013
01:40:09,969 --> 01:40:11,571
because I think it's important that they hear this.

1014
01:40:11,571 --> 01:40:16,910
we do have some development that's yet to take place so maybe we could implement

1015
01:40:16,910 --> 01:40:24,110
some of this in real time with approvals and development greements that

1016
01:40:28,454 --> 01:40:36,196
are happening and with my personal goal being the eradication of the chinese

1017
01:40:36,196 --> 01:40:40,133
pistache tree of which I am definitely jaded. That completes my comments.

1018
01:40:40,133 --> 01:40:45,671
thank you, mayor. >> I appreciate the report. It's pretty easy to follow.

1019
01:40:45,671 --> 01:40:50,143
I know I've had this conversation with amanda where why we don't do this

1020
01:40:50,143 --> 01:40:54,880
section by section instead of having everybody scramble somewhere in an emergency

1021
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,551
only. So it's good that we see this happening we're able to

1022
01:40:58,551 --> 01:41:06,250
come up with a plan and take care of our city because as you usually say, it's also

1023
01:41:06,250 --> 01:41:11,831
part of public safety when we lessen the potential of branches falling or just

1024
01:41:11,831 --> 01:41:17,837
blocking stop -- whatever it may be, this is beneficial to our city in more ways

1025
01:41:17,837 --> 01:41:22,709
than one so I do appreciate the work put into this and I think when we're able to

1026
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:27,380
just talk to our constituents and neighbors about the importance, it's

1027
01:41:27,380 --> 01:41:33,980
pretty easy to get. So thank you. >> I really appreciate the

1028
01:41:35,188 --> 01:41:37,924
report. It's interesting, you go through this long process to

1029
01:41:37,924 --> 01:41:42,795
get the general plan ready and is all of a sudden oh, this was in our general plan

1030
01:41:42,795 --> 01:41:47,670
and now you're coming forward. Coordination between city

1031
01:41:47,670 --> 01:41:52,939
manager, director of -- what's mark the director of? Public works.

1032
01:41:52,939 --> 01:41:56,900
director of public works, I'm sorry, I just had a flash there.

1033
01:41:56,900 --> 01:42:02,148
no, I am out of it tonight. At any rate the department of public works and you are

1034
01:42:02,148 --> 01:42:06,486
folks to come in and follow up on what's -- what we're all working on here and

1035
01:42:06,486 --> 01:42:10,824
seeing things move forward. Sometimes I look at the general plan and I think

1036
01:42:10,824 --> 01:42:16,429
there's some great ideas here but to see it implemented is heart

1037
01:42:16,429 --> 01:42:22,235
warming, thank you. And I do know that mark is over at public works.

1038
01:42:22,235 --> 01:42:26,435
so thank you. >> are you awake? >> no.

1039
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:33,639
>> well, basically everybody has said what I wanted to say now our

1040
01:42:34,447 --> 01:42:42,655
constituents have something to see, because as some of them have concerns about up

1041
01:42:42,655 --> 01:42:45,458
grown trees and now we have the interest. So thank you for the report

1042
01:42:45,458 --> 01:42:54,458
by the way, as well. >> I have a few questions. Can you while you're here

1043
01:42:56,602 --> 01:42:59,938
speak a little bit for the record about some of the trees that are struggling?

1044
01:42:59,938 --> 01:43:07,213
and I ask that because in particular, our coastal redwoods are just having a

1045
01:43:07,213 --> 01:43:10,170
time. I think people look at them and think the city is not

1046
01:43:10,170 --> 01:43:17,423
taking care of them which is probably true in some regards, but there's a

1047
01:43:17,423 --> 01:43:24,163
reality there that's outside of our influence but still our responsibility to

1048
01:43:24,163 --> 01:43:26,433
respo respond. >> I can't -- I don't have

1049
01:43:26,433 --> 01:43:30,303
the inventory information in front of me right now so I can't speak in detail, but I

1050
01:43:30,303 --> 01:43:38,703
can speak to the redwood. And the reason that the coast redwood is suffering

1051
01:43:39,579 --> 01:43:43,783
is because the coast redwood was never designed to be planted in an urban setting.

1052
01:43:43,783 --> 01:43:49,388
this is not a unique problem so rohnert park. I see it in other cities

1053
01:43:49,388 --> 01:43:58,865
down in the bay area too. So I think one of the key -- that's why we mentioned the

1054
01:43:58,865 --> 01:44:04,404
successional planning, it's not just about looking at what's there now, it's about

1055
01:44:04,404 --> 01:44:10,677
what are you gonna put there next and then what's that gonna look like in 30 years,

1056
01:44:10,677 --> 01:44:16,815
it's about making sure that there's no, you know, species mono culture so you

1057
01:44:16,815 --> 01:44:20,860
drive down the street and only see one tree which looks beautiful, but it's

1058
01:44:20,860 --> 01:44:24,220
not practical when some bark beetle comes through and kills everything.

1059
01:44:24,220 --> 01:44:30,296
so I can't - I don't want to speak and give you bad information around what

1060
01:44:30,296 --> 01:44:37,837
trees are doing well and what aren't, and I can tell just specifically for the

1061
01:44:37,837 --> 01:44:44,437
redwood. >> ne of the things that the davey davresources group is

1062
01:44:45,644 --> 01:44:50,850
working on for the should be the species selector tool. Could touch on that one a

1063
01:44:50,850 --> 01:44:57,500
little bit more, but people already able to look for climate adapted species that

1064
01:44:57,500 --> 01:45:02,405
would complement their neighborhood based on our tree inventory.

1065
01:45:04,213 --> 01:45:10,219
>> as part of this project, we developed a climate adaptive tree species list.

1066
01:45:10,219 --> 01:45:16,425
and the way that we do that is not just by looking at things like infrastructure

1067
01:45:16,425 --> 01:45:21,698
conflicts to make sure that they're going to be rightly suited for sometimes smaller

1068
01:45:21,698 --> 01:45:30,440
tree wells but we also look at heat modeling and where rohnert park is today, and

1069
01:45:30,440 --> 01:45:35,779
where it's predicted they're going to be in the next ten, 20, 30, 50 years.

1070
01:45:35,779 --> 01:45:43,386
and the goal is that it's based on heat modeling, it's based on size, all these --

1071
01:45:43,386 --> 01:45:48,591
water is talked about. And then we talked about purple pipe.

1072
01:45:48,591 --> 01:45:52,796
it's not just the water needs, it's what kind of water can these trees

1073
01:45:52,796 --> 01:45:57,800
tolerate because recycled water has high salt content and a lot of trees like

1074
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:06,200
redwoods don't do well with high salt content water. So that list will be

1075
01:46:06,809 --> 01:46:14,350
publicly available right now, right that list will be publicly available on the

1076
01:46:14,350 --> 01:46:19,222
urban forest hub site. So the hub site will be a place where people can go to

1077
01:46:19,222 --> 01:46:25,270
and access not just the urban forest master plan but the land cover summary

1078
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:29,766
report that was created as part of this plan, the resourcing analysis that was

1079
01:46:29,766 --> 01:46:37,441
created as part of a project before this, and then there will be a story map which is

1080
01:46:37,441 --> 01:46:41,177
an interactive tool where they will be able to access the data from both that

1081
01:46:41,177 --> 01:46:45,782
resource analysis which looks at the inventory and then the land cover analysis

1082
01:46:45,782 --> 01:46:54,570
which looks at everything. And on that site there will be information around tree

1083
01:46:54,570 --> 01:46:58,460
selection anything like that. The tree selection tool I believe is on the

1084
01:46:58,460 --> 01:47:03,860
next phase, not right now, though. After that, yeah.

1085
01:47:04,733 --> 01:47:09,605
but the list will be available and there will be suggestions.

1086
01:47:09,605 --> 01:47:14,100
>> that is fantastic. I can say that at this went to a lot of public meetings

1087
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:18,481
this year, and I think that the urban forest management plan meeting was one of my

1088
01:47:18,481 --> 01:47:21,884
favorites. There was so much great content, and I do look

1089
01:47:21,884 --> 01:47:26,210
forward to there being a hub for other people who may be weren't as engaged before to

1090
01:47:26,210 --> 01:47:30,225
tune in when they're feeling and be able to get that information because I agree

1091
01:47:30,225 --> 01:47:34,764
with you, you kind of have to show some success to get the peer pressure for people

1092
01:47:34,764 --> 01:47:40,570
to care about this public benefit that we can't deny how important it is.

1093
01:47:40,570 --> 01:47:44,974
because it keeps us breathing. I think that you addressed

1094
01:47:44,974 --> 01:47:50,581
all my questions. I'm very much looking forward to us having a plan,

1095
01:47:50,581 --> 01:47:56,986
like you said, the reactive model that we're going with now, you know, my district

1096
01:47:56,986 --> 01:48:01,858
includes the east cotati where that tree fell and busted the sound wall and

1097
01:48:01,858 --> 01:48:06,620
then the sound wall had to be replaced and that's some expensive stuff.

1098
01:48:06,620 --> 01:48:08,998
we could have taken care of a lot of trees for that amount of money.

1099
01:48:08,998 --> 01:48:13,936
so we may not be able to do it now, but I appreciate us having a plan going forward.

1100
01:48:13,936 --> 01:48:20,276
and thank you so much for your contributions to this. Okay.

1101
01:48:20,276 --> 01:48:24,881
without further ado -- >> I'd be happy to make a motion to adopt the urban

1102
01:48:24,881 --> 01:48:30,281
forest management plan by resolution as presented. >> I'll second.

1103
01:48:30,286 --> 01:48:35,424
>> we have a motion. We have a second. All those in favor say aye.

1104
01:48:35,424 --> 01:48:41,424
any opposed? Nope. >> resolution 2026017 is adopted by a 5-0 vote.

1105
01:48:45,301 --> 01:48:50,701
>> thank you. >> okay. And our next regular item is

1106
01:48:53,242 --> 01:48:58,847
going to be item 8b, we are receiving a department of public safety annual

1107
01:48:58,847 --> 01:49:04,847
staffing update.3 we have here chief mattos and ms. Tracy.

1108
01:49:08,590 --> 01:49:10,990
welcome back. >> >> good evening.

1109
01:49:31,547 --> 01:49:39,347
>> I wthank you for having us tonight to present this item to you.

1110
01:49:39,822 --> 01:49:44,561
okay. I didn't know someone was coming in.

1111
01:49:44,561 --> 01:49:50,330
>> we wanted to talk about the staffing and recruitment challenges that are --

1112
01:49:50,330 --> 01:49:54,971
>> you need to turn on your microphone >> I wanted to talk about

1113
01:49:54,971 --> 01:49:59,643
the staffing and recruitment challenges that are unique to our public safety

1114
01:49:59,643 --> 01:50:05,643
department to go through them briefly, competition between agencies offering

1115
01:50:05,648 --> 01:50:11,648
large signing bonuses and lucrative compensation packages, a lack of

1116
01:50:14,190 --> 01:50:20,597
specialty assignments for our staff to diversify their career opportunities, law

1117
01:50:20,597 --> 01:50:24,934
enforcement agencies throughout onoma county and statewide are competing for

1118
01:50:24,934 --> 01:50:28,270
the same pool of candidates we are are. The recruitment process is

1119
01:50:28,270 --> 01:50:33,275
lengthy and demanding and is believe it or not remote work in the private sector

1120
01:50:33,275 --> 01:50:36,479
does play a factor with those that have challenges with their personal schedule

1121
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:44,279
and they don't want to be committed to a 24/7 holidays type of job.

1122
01:50:46,210 --> 01:50:52,562
>> as you know, you saw the three gentlemen tonight. They went through a grooming

1123
01:50:52,562 --> 01:50:58,562
process to get here. The hiring process with backgrounds, medicals,

1124
01:50:58,834 --> 01:51:01,972
everything is about four to six months, a very extensive background.

1125
01:51:01,972 --> 01:51:07,661
the police academy is now 21 weeks. They added another week.

1126
01:51:07,661 --> 01:51:14,602
so it's actually five weeks and -- five months and one week now.

1127
01:51:14,602 --> 01:51:18,873
we do a unique thing after you get out of the academia we don't throw you right

1128
01:51:18,873 --> 01:51:23,744
into the car, we spend about three to three and a half weeks with an orientation

1129
01:51:23,744 --> 01:51:31,618
during which time you do your range, detac, you do next week they start traffic

1130
01:51:31,618 --> 01:51:36,223
collision school, there's some report writing stuff, we familiarize them with

1131
01:51:36,223 --> 01:51:40,228
everything you're gonna do in rohnert park so you have all your log ones so when

1132
01:51:40,228 --> 01:51:44,698
you step in the car you have a lot of that needed training already so you can

1133
01:51:44,698 --> 01:51:48,769
be efficient on the streets. That's about three and a half weeks.

1134
01:51:48,769 --> 01:51:53,173
once that's done you go into your four month, 16 week training program.

1135
01:51:53,173 --> 01:51:57,644
that's a minimum training for a new officer. We usually get them out

1136
01:51:57,644 --> 01:52:05,510
between 16 and 18 weeks. Then they go on to the street where they will work

1137
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:12,926
as a solo officer for about a year, they will go on the list for the fire academy

1138
01:52:12,926 --> 01:52:15,931
and then we get a place in the fire academy they attend that.

1139
01:52:15,931 --> 01:52:20,201
that's four to six months because there's two fire academies per year, one is

1140
01:52:20,201 --> 01:52:23,470
an intense fire academy where they are going monday through friday, eight hours

1141
01:52:23,470 --> 01:52:32,790
a day, the other is a bifurcated academy where they go three days a week

1142
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:35,750
and one day so it extends the time. They do that because

1143
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:41,880
oftentimes people who are in the -- who have a job they're not yet in the fire

1144
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,959
service, can't just quit their job and go to fire academy four days a week so

1145
01:52:45,959 --> 01:52:49,496
they have a n extended one where you can stillextended one where you can still work.

1146
01:52:49,496 --> 01:52:56,770
we put them in both. And then when they are in that extended academy,

1147
01:52:56,770 --> 01:53:01,775
number of hours we have them work two days on the street before they go to the fire

1148
01:53:01,775 --> 01:53:05,112
academy so they generally assigned to traffic at that time.

1149
01:53:05,112 --> 01:53:12,912
but that is what it takes to get one person on the street.

1150
01:53:12,986 --> 01:53:19,460
>> the cost break down for public safety officer overall when all facts are

1151
01:53:19,460 --> 01:53:24,665
considered in the pre-employment process with things such as the polygraph

1152
01:53:24,665 --> 01:53:28,803
exam, the live scan, the psychological evaluation, the background

1153
01:53:28,803 --> 01:53:36,300
investigation, the medical evaluation, and then adding in as well the medical

1154
01:53:36,276 --> 01:53:41,482
evaluation, the post academy, a trainee's salary and benefits for six months,

1155
01:53:41,482 --> 01:53:46,687
the pso1 salary and benefits for four months, and then the stipend for the person

1156
01:53:46,687 --> 01:53:54,428
that's training the ew officer for a period of four months accommodation up to

1157
01:53:54,428 --> 01:53:59,228
$121,759 per public safety officer. >> during 25-26 fiscal year

1158
01:54:05,239 --> 01:54:12,579
we had a few separations, as you know, we lost one of our public safety deputy chiefs,

1159
01:54:12,579 --> 01:54:18,579
we lost two public safety sergeants. Ten public safety officers,

1160
01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:23,323
four dispatchers full time, one dispatcher part time and one management analyst.

1161
01:54:23,323 --> 01:54:29,195
that was what we lost during that fiscal year. And we were able to appoint

1162
01:54:29,195 --> 01:54:32,733
eight public safety officers, one dispatcher full time, one dispatcher

1163
01:54:32,733 --> 01:54:37,737
part time, a management analyst, and a public safety records clerk.

1164
01:54:37,737 --> 01:54:46,137
so not quite, but close. What's that? Oh. >> and so where we are now,

1165
01:54:52,619 --> 01:54:56,956
we currently have two trainees attending the police academy, we have

1166
01:54:56,956 --> 01:55:02,496
three officers attending the fire academy, we have six officers in our sto program

1167
01:55:02,496 --> 01:55:09,960
and a -- >> whole different story >> and hoping to get four

1168
01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:14,970
trainees, recruiting right now for the jnuary 2027 police academy.

1169
01:55:16,644 --> 01:55:20,113
>> with that, we'll take any questions. Because that's what we love

1170
01:55:20,113 --> 01:55:26,113
doing, answering questions. >> these presentations for us, photo, photo, photo,

1171
01:55:28,589 --> 01:55:35,789
data, questions. Council, questions from you before we go to our public?

1172
01:55:36,463 --> 01:55:40,667
>> going back to separations and appointments, I'm gonna

1173
01:55:40,667 --> 01:55:47,267
assume this happened before we ratified the contract the last meeting.

1174
01:55:47,474 --> 01:55:50,744
that was deputy chief, sorry, I was reading that wrong.

1175
01:55:50,744 --> 01:55:55,482
but deputy chief, we have a chief coming in, madam city manager I'm assuming we're

1176
01:55:55,482 --> 01:55:59,753
waiting for him to come see the department and the needs if another deputy chief may

1177
01:55:59,753 --> 01:56:05,826
be needed, budgeted for, et cetera? >> so currently -- I'm sure

1178
01:56:05,826 --> 01:56:12,165
chief mattos can clarify this, but the position of the department was for the

1179
01:56:12,165 --> 01:56:16,370
deputy -- we have obviously two deputy achieve positions currently vacant.

1180
01:56:16,370 --> 01:56:22,443
but the recommendation of the department was to do under hires, bring in police

1181
01:56:22,443 --> 01:56:23,711
offic officers. Now, my understanding right

1182
01:56:23,711 --> 01:56:30,851
now is that we don't have any overhires or we do have two overhires.

1183
01:56:30,851 --> 01:56:36,123
but the plan is for the incoming new director of public safety to evaluate

1184
01:56:36,123 --> 01:56:39,926
obviously meet with the department, make sure that he gets the input of the

1185
01:56:39,926 --> 01:56:45,933
department and see what are the needs in terms of the administrative side of the

1186
01:56:45,933 --> 01:56:50,337
operations so that would -- that's something that you would expect for the new

1187
01:56:50,337 --> 01:56:53,474
chief coming in. >> okay. And then for the

1188
01:56:53,474 --> 01:56:59,279
appointments of eight public safety officers, does that include the three we pinned

1189
01:56:59,279 --> 01:57:02,816
today? >> this report was effective for the prior

1190
01:57:02,816 --> 01:57:06,287
fiscal year, so to not include the ones that we have today.

1191
01:57:06,287 --> 01:57:10,487
>> okay. Okay. So in theory, because it

1192
01:57:11,224 --> 01:57:17,784
says ten public safety officers that separated, but if we added these three we

1193
01:57:17,784 --> 01:57:25,584
could be up to 11 new appointed officers. >> as a public, it's -- I

1194
01:57:28,129 --> 01:57:34,734
understand it's fiscal year 25-26 but I also want to be fair on our actuals, what

1195
01:57:34,734 --> 01:57:37,404
it's looking like right now >> I actually broke that down.

1196
01:57:37,404 --> 01:57:44,544
so we are currently allocated in our budget for a total of 58 public safety

1197
01:57:44,544 --> 01:57:49,616
officers, four of those are allocated to measure h. So right now, we have the

1198
01:57:49,616 --> 01:57:55,756
four measure h and we have 56 officers that were technically we have two

1199
01:57:55,756 --> 01:58:01,428
overhires. But with that being said, we're looking at actual

1200
01:58:01,428 --> 01:58:07,428
boots on the ground, so we have 60 public safety officers.

1201
01:58:09,236 --> 01:58:15,776
of those, two are trainees in the police academy, six are in the fto program,

1202
01:58:15,776 --> 01:58:22,976
three are in the fire academy, two are on complete disability industrial

1203
01:58:24,518 --> 01:58:28,121
related, so that leaves of a total of 13. So if we're looking at

1204
01:58:28,121 --> 01:58:32,861
public safety officers only, not including sergeants, lieutenants, deputy chiefs,

1205
01:58:32,861 --> 01:58:39,600
that means we have 47 actual boots on the ground at this point.

1206
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:44,671
>> that's helpful. Thank you. And then going back to the

1207
01:58:44,671 --> 01:58:49,900
cost break down, I don't even know if this can be tracked or how far back you

1208
01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:55,149
can go but when the city is investing over $100,000 into our officers that we need

1209
01:58:55,149 --> 01:59:00,688
and we're trying to catch up with all of that with fto and all that, are we seeing

1210
01:59:00,688 --> 01:59:05,892
an average time of how much is the city investing and how quickly are they

1211
01:59:05,892 --> 01:59:10,698
departing? Because that's a huge cost. >> I can look at that for

1212
01:59:10,698 --> 01:59:17,772
you for sure. >> yeah, I'd like to see how -- life happens, I know

1213
01:59:17,772 --> 01:59:25,912
we've seen that with our officers that life really threw them a curve ball and

1214
01:59:25,912 --> 01:59:29,649
they just couldn't be with our department anymore and hopefully they will come

1215
01:59:29,649 --> 01:59:34,254
back when life to treat itself but to kind of in a sense see that walk out the

1216
01:59:34,254 --> 01:59:40,327
door it just really puts a lot of strain on not just the city budget but the

1217
01:59:40,327 --> 01:59:47,133
department budget. I would like to see what can we do to -- it sounds so

1218
01:59:47,133 --> 01:59:50,137
horrible because these are humans but like what's our return orn investment and

1219
01:59:50,137 --> 01:59:54,341
how do we kind of keep that, and it's not just the investmeno we kind of keep that, and

1220
01:59:54,341 --> 01:59:57,944
it's not just the money, it's also the time getting -- the institutional

1221
01:59:57,944 --> 02:00:04,217
knowledge that leaves. So when you've got five, ten, 15 year folks, that's

1222
02:00:04,217 --> 02:00:08,555
who self because there's a history, people can explain why there's certain policy

1223
02:00:08,555 --> 02:00:13,427
or why things are done a certain way or why we wouldn't want to shift

1224
02:00:13,427 --> 02:00:18,298
another way but when we're having people constantly leaving, you can't really

1225
02:00:18,298 --> 02:00:21,501
create a culture and a community with that. So I don't know how we here

1226
02:00:21,501 --> 02:00:29,109
at this dais can continue to help that because whie are investing the money but how

1227
02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:33,846
do we kind of assist when folks are leaving to get -- I mean --

1228
02:00:33,846 --> 02:00:41,588
>> if I could just make a quick statement here. So we introduced these three

1229
02:00:41,588 --> 02:00:46,459
new officers today. I think a couple maybe a month ago I introduced three

1230
02:00:46,459 --> 02:00:54,859
new officers, cg, tyler and baldero and prior to that I introduced elliot and

1231
02:00:56,336 --> 02:00:59,739
beltran. We're hiring some amazing individuals.

1232
02:00:59,739 --> 02:01:05,611
I mean, they're intelligent, they're well spoken, they have a love for this job,

1233
02:01:05,611 --> 02:01:10,750
and they care about it. And they're amazing young men.

1234
02:01:10,750 --> 02:01:15,822
and when we're recruiting good people, people want to come to rohnert park, they

1235
02:01:15,822 --> 02:01:19,292
want to be part of the public safety department, they want to work here.

1236
02:01:19,292 --> 02:01:25,432
what I'm seeing is not -- getting them in the door has not been our problem.

1237
02:01:25,432 --> 02:01:33,239
as I said before, uantity may be down, quality is not. So we're getting good people

1238
02:01:33,239 --> 02:01:38,578
in the door. What really these numbers show is we're not keeping

1239
02:01:38,578 --> 02:01:43,450
them in the door. And so, you know, figuring ways to retain them so they

1240
02:01:43,450 --> 02:01:47,920
don't walk out the door is what I think the ob of the council is going to be

1241
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:54,994
because they're here, they're good, and we want to be able to keep them because

1242
02:01:54,994 --> 02:01:58,598
every day they work here, they bring that knowledge and they get better and

1243
02:01:58,598 --> 02:02:03,136
better and the most hurtful thing for me as a chief is to watch someone who is just

1244
02:02:03,136 --> 02:02:08,207
getting there leave because I don't have a specialty assignment for them or

1245
02:02:08,207 --> 02:02:11,211
because someone else in the county is the paying more money.

1246
02:02:11,211 --> 02:02:17,551
so I think where you're going, if I could nswer them in the door, they're ng-

1247
02:02:17,551 --> 02:02:22,622
wonderful people, we gotta figure ut how to keep them here.

1248
02:02:22,622 --> 02:02:28,940
the retention is where we want to concentrate >> I know you and I have

1249
02:02:28,940 --> 02:02:32,700
talked about it a lot but with our new chief coming in I'm looking forward to what

1250
02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:38,171
is that, because we're not the operations, we can support a lot but we

1251
02:02:38,171 --> 02:02:43,576
can't -- I would like to hear that at some point in the future of what is a

1252
02:02:43,576 --> 02:02:49,576
retention plan that's feasible and that that's sustainable for everybody

1253
02:02:49,582 --> 02:02:54,121
involved. That's I think what we're looking at as we just had

1254
02:02:54,121 --> 02:02:59,259
those presentations of state of mandated things that we have to oot the bill for

1255
02:02:59,259 --> 02:03:02,330
because people thought that was a great idea. I'm trying to look at what

1256
02:03:02,330 --> 02:03:07,600
is sustainable for the department, for the hard work, truly, chief that

1257
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:11,471
you've put in over the last eight years and to keep that going, because I can't say

1258
02:03:11,471 --> 02:03:13,807
that our department doesn't show up. They do.

1259
02:03:13,807 --> 02:03:18,345
and know that they're working really hard. And so I just -- it's hard

1260
02:03:18,345 --> 02:03:25,545
to see that amount continuously leave. That's all for me for now.

1261
02:03:27,621 --> 02:03:33,621
>> thank you. Just curious, trainee salary benefit and benefits, the

1262
02:03:37,965 --> 02:03:43,903
cost for the six-month period is 55943. That is non-handle salary,

1263
02:03:43,903 --> 02:03:46,707
correct? >> that is correct. That's not an annual salary.

1264
02:03:46,707 --> 02:03:49,510
>> okay. So that -- because I don't want somebody looking at

1265
02:03:49,510 --> 02:03:54,381
that and thinking wow, they're a trainee they're getting this much and then

1266
02:03:54,381 --> 02:03:59,186
you're dropping them down to 55386, that was a four month salary and benefits schedule

1267
02:03:59,186 --> 02:04:03,190
and the one above it is a six month salary and benefits schedule

1268
02:04:03,190 --> 02:04:05,391
>> yes. >> I just want to be clear on that.

1269
02:04:05,391 --> 02:04:12,199
chief, did you a comment? >> while they're in the academy, I think it's bottom

1270
02:04:12,199 --> 02:04:16,537
step, that's less ten percent and then when they get out of the academy they

1271
02:04:16,537 --> 02:04:20,740
move to an a step. So out of that year, ten months, they're being paid

1272
02:04:20,740 --> 02:04:25,612
in the academy one price and then the -- >> I just wanted to clear

1273
02:04:25,612 --> 02:04:29,282
in case somebody is looking at the sign wondering what are those numbers are about.

1274
02:04:29,282 --> 02:04:34,621
my second question is, chief, I don't want to put you on the spot, how many

1275
02:04:34,621 --> 02:04:41,161
different departments did you work for your career? >> this is my third --

1276
02:04:41,161 --> 02:04:47,300
>> third department -- >> but I did work for the marin county da's office for

1277
02:04:47,300 --> 02:04:50,103
about two years >> three public safety units.

1278
02:04:50,103 --> 02:04:53,390
and how many years have you been in public safety >> 37.

1279
02:04:53,390 --> 02:05:00,714
>> so three -- so every ten yearsish, I guess I think you hit the nail on the head

1280
02:05:00,714 --> 02:05:04,785
when you said it's the council's job to figure out how to retain these folks.

1281
02:05:04,785 --> 02:05:08,456
I agree with you and I agree with councilmember rodriguez here.

1282
02:05:08,456 --> 02:05:17,330
I will say, however, that it is a generational thing, and I have young adults in my

1283
02:05:17,330 --> 02:05:23,203
home, where this is something I want to do, then something else comes along,

1284
02:05:23,203 --> 02:05:27,408
I think I'm gonna go do this over here now. And I think there's got to

1285
02:05:27,408 --> 02:05:31,678
be a way to capture back the I'll be here ten years before I move somewhere

1286
02:05:31,678 --> 02:05:33,880
else. There has to be a way to keep them.

1287
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:40,287
I don't know what that is. But I think you've rightly addressed kind of what the

1288
02:05:40,287 --> 02:05:45,240
issue is. Can you just go forward the slide where you talk about

1289
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:51,624
the comings and goings. This is from july 1st, 2025, to june 30, 2026.

1290
02:05:52,500 --> 02:05:56,100
>> yes. >> okay. So we separated from 19

1291
02:06:02,909 --> 02:06:08,909
people, and we placed in the city eight, nine, ten, 11, 12.

1292
02:06:11,651 --> 02:06:17,857
is that the normal -- what's the historical -- >> well, I think we have

1293
02:06:17,857 --> 02:06:22,262
some numbers out there that I think they've been looked at them before, but I mean,

1294
02:06:22,262 --> 02:06:28,401
when you look at this, because of that hiring process, right, I could lose

1295
02:06:28,401 --> 02:06:32,940
somebody in 25-26 and because of the hiring process I might not hire

1296
02:06:32,940 --> 02:06:38,211
them until august of 26. So I was able to replace them but it doesn't show

1297
02:06:38,211 --> 02:06:40,747
tthe -- >> I think she mentioned

1298
02:06:40,747 --> 02:06:44,347
that, councilmember rodriguez. I appreciate that.

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02:06:44,551 --> 02:06:47,820
I think this is some very thorough nformation and certainly gives us something

1300
02:06:47,820 --> 02:06:51,893
to think about in the coming months. I appreciate it.

1301
02:06:51,893 --> 02:06:56,896
>> thank you; mayor. Chief, I'm kind of curious a little bit.

1302
02:06:56,896 --> 02:07:01,902
and I have to ask the question. So when it comes to

1303
02:07:01,902 --> 02:07:08,502
retention, in certain entities, public entities, they have, like, rules where

1304
02:07:12,846 --> 02:07:18,918
if you come, you want to many could and join us, this is the amount of time that

1305
02:07:18,918 --> 02:07:25,859
you have to work, right? Or stay with us before you think of leaving.

1306
02:07:25,859 --> 02:07:31,640
is this something that our public safety department can put in place or it's not

1307
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:38,271
something that's doable. This is out of curiosity. Because if someone goes to

1308
02:07:38,271 --> 02:07:43,760
the military or the navy they pay for their education and all of that, but they

1309
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:48,140
have like a certain period of time where they have to serve before leaving.

1310
02:07:48,140 --> 02:07:56,289
is that something that is is doable in this case or not? >> so when I became the

1311
02:07:56,289 --> 02:08:00,293
admin sergeant in woodland that's when I got into the hiring process and started

1312
02:08:00,293 --> 02:08:04,298
understanding it. Early on in that venture, I thought why don't we put

1313
02:08:04,298 --> 02:08:09,235
people on contracts, why don't we tell them we're gonna put you through the

1314
02:08:09,235 --> 02:08:13,373
academy and you have to work for five years, and I think every chief would say that's

1315
02:08:13,373 --> 02:08:19,312
a great idea. But I think michelle would back me on the fact that we

1316
02:08:19,312 --> 02:08:24,984
cannot force people to stay any certain numbers or we can't -- I mean, it's -- you

1317
02:08:24,984 --> 02:08:28,988
can't put somebody in the position at least in law enforcement to say if we

1318
02:08:28,988 --> 02:08:32,392
hire you, you have to stay here this long. It violates the law.

1319
02:08:32,392 --> 02:08:39,866
so as much as we'd like that commitment, we can't get it >> so basically you are

1320
02:08:39,866 --> 02:08:45,538
investing money to -- to somebody that you know will not be there.

1321
02:08:45,538 --> 02:08:50,410
so if they finish the training, you pin them, in two weeks they're like I'm

1322
02:08:50,410 --> 02:08:57,217
out and they're out, and so you wasted 1 hundred thousand dollars in public

1323
02:08:57,217 --> 02:09:02,220
funds for that. So that's basically what I hear.

1324
02:09:02,220 --> 02:09:06,559
>> well, I would -- >> but we need to have some sort of the rules based on

1325
02:09:06,559 --> 02:09:11,359
that. I mean -- >> I would -- the

1326
02:09:13,233 --> 02:09:16,970
characterization of what you're saying could happen? Yes, it could happen.

1327
02:09:16,970 --> 02:09:20,373
we do a very thorough background when we get somebody.

1328
02:09:20,373 --> 02:09:24,978
but never had anybody leave that soon. But even losing a three-year

1329
02:09:24,978 --> 02:09:30,783
officer, that hurts. And they come in and they want to be a public safety

1330
02:09:30,783 --> 02:09:34,523
officer, they want to be here. And then after they worked

1331
02:09:34,523 --> 02:09:40,729
here for let's say five years, they look up and say well, all we have is

1332
02:09:40,729 --> 02:09:45,802
detective as a specialty assignment none of those detectives are coming out

1333
02:09:45,802 --> 02:09:49,938
for a while so I'm probably not going to do anything else so I might look

1334
02:09:49,938 --> 02:09:52,742
somewhere where I might be able to get into a specialty assignment.

1335
02:09:52,742 --> 02:10:00,810
it's that three to five year mark where seem like we get them walking out the door

1336
02:10:00,810 --> 02:10:03,850
because they're very confident and they're starting to know really what

1337
02:10:03,850 --> 02:10:06,888
they're doing. And they're a great commodity for another

1338
02:10:06,888 --> 02:10:10,826
agency. They're very well trained and ready to go.

1339
02:10:10,826 --> 02:10:14,829
you hope they will come in and commit and stay and you know you hope they will come

1340
02:10:14,829 --> 02:10:18,967
in and they'll start a family because it's harder to leave when you have a

1341
02:10:18,967 --> 02:10:26,307
family right. So we try to created that. When you hire them, it's a

1342
02:10:26,307 --> 02:10:33,181
shot how long -- I hope they'll stay forever or at least ten years before they

1343
02:10:33,181 --> 02:10:36,718
move on. But giving them more opportunities throughout

1344
02:10:36,718 --> 02:10:43,318
that, giving them the ability to move, councilmember adams asked me

1345
02:10:43,858 --> 02:10:49,131
how many places I did. I was in woodland for 17 years and one of the reasons

1346
02:10:49,131 --> 02:10:56,805
for that longevity is because every three or four years I had an opportunity

1347
02:10:56,805 --> 02:11:00,207
to go do something different. So my career was constantly

1348
02:11:00,207 --> 02:11:02,209
chang changing. But there was sometimes in

1349
02:11:02,209 --> 02:11:07,750
my career where I'm like I just don't want a ush a black and white anymore.

1350
02:11:07,750 --> 02:11:11,819
I want to do something else and this is what I'm gonna do, and that's where I

1351
02:11:11,819 --> 02:11:16,910
started looking for other opportunities. So giving them the

1352
02:11:16,910 --> 02:11:21,229
opportunities in the department will help retain them because that's what

1353
02:11:21,229 --> 02:11:22,832
they want, they want challenges and they want change

1354
02:11:22,832 --> 02:11:29,370
>> so basically people are tired of eating a steak every single day, sometimes

1355
02:11:29,370 --> 02:11:36,570
they want some vegetables? >> exactly. >> so how can -- so this is

1356
02:11:40,115 --> 02:11:46,721
something internal that needs to happen, right, or is that what I'm hearing,

1357
02:11:46,721 --> 02:11:52,526
like something internal that needs to happen in the public safety department

1358
02:11:52,526 --> 02:12:00,926
necessarily -- the money is part of it but also opportunities in the public

1359
02:12:03,604 --> 02:12:08,760
safety itself, is that what I'm hearing? >> well, and I'll clarify

1360
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,613
that, because you're -- >> I'm asking -- I'm curious

1361
02:12:11,613 --> 02:12:17,130
>> you're saying the exact truth. Those opportunities -- I'm

1362
02:12:18,753 --> 02:12:22,690
able to create those opportunities when I have staffing, and when I can't

1363
02:12:22,690 --> 02:12:26,293
maintain that evel of staffing because I keep getting people walking out

1364
02:12:26,293 --> 02:12:33,701
the door or I get these long-term injuries, then I can't create the cops team,

1365
02:12:33,701 --> 02:12:40,400
I can't add another motor, I can't get the dui car out there.

1366
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:47,315
because I'm patrolling fires the first time. So as we can retain, we can

1367
02:12:47,315 --> 02:12:52,320
hire good people, keep them here, those numbers can build up to where I can say

1368
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:58,993
now I have the staffing to where I have full patrol, full fire, and I can put a

1369
02:12:58,993 --> 02:13:04,599
three person cops team out there or I can put a dui war out there or something like

1370
02:13:04,599 --> 02:13:10,599
that. So it's a bigger answer because yes eshgs internally

1371
02:13:10,605 --> 02:13:15,770
I can create that stuff, but I have to have the staffing to do it.

1372
02:13:15,770 --> 02:13:21,216
otherwise I'm just robbing peter to pay paul and moving chess pieces around

1373
02:13:21,216 --> 02:13:25,416
>> thank you, chief. >> okay. Questions from me.

1374
02:13:29,690 --> 02:13:36,497
I cannot remember when but tracy will, we had a staffing report update on

1375
02:13:36,497 --> 02:13:40,835
all the departments, it was this year, probably within the last ouple months.

1376
02:13:40,835 --> 02:13:45,974
when was it? I was trying to look back to see where we were at on retention in

1377
02:13:45,974 --> 02:13:51,846
other departments. I know it's more obvious and extreme with public safety

1378
02:13:51,846 --> 02:14:00,788
because the training rocess is so long, but I guget the sense it's not only in

1379
02:14:00,788 --> 02:14:06,594
public safety that we're having retention challenges >> it's all our departments

1380
02:14:06,594 --> 02:14:10,798
right now honestly. >> it was this year, though, right? Probably a

1381
02:14:10,798 --> 02:14:15,870
whole year ago. But, no, and hat we've seen with public safety right now

1382
02:14:15,870 --> 02:14:20,208
it actually feels ike it's kind of rotating departments.

1383
02:14:20,208 --> 02:14:25,680
we have it at public safety, we've just had some losses upstairs in development

1384
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:30,752
services, now we're seeing some in public works. It kind of rotates

1385
02:14:30,752 --> 02:14:35,290
unfortunately. And I think that a big part of it as well, because

1386
02:14:35,290 --> 02:14:40,161
employees can move from retirement system to retirement system, they

1387
02:14:40,161 --> 02:14:46,761
aren't afraid o stay put anymore. >> thank you for the extra

1388
02:14:48,169 --> 02:14:51,572
insights on that. And then I had other questions.

1389
02:14:51,572 --> 02:14:57,111
let me see if I can find them. I think I was just curious

1390
02:14:57,111 --> 02:15:03,510
about -- when I was looking at the report about the referrals, we do -- refer a

1391
02:15:03,510 --> 02:15:06,854
friend, then you both stay, you get money. Which is great.

1392
02:15:06,854 --> 02:15:12,590
I'm curious if you could look up at some point how many of those folks are

1393
02:15:12,590 --> 02:15:17,932
still here. Obviously they got their referral money, but I'm

1394
02:15:17,932 --> 02:15:26,874
curious if they got it and left or got it and stayed. Just curious about that.

1395
02:15:26,874 --> 02:15:32,147
and, yeah, we'll go ahead and go to public comment and then if there's anything

1396
02:15:32,147 --> 02:15:35,149
left that the council will come back. Would anybody from the

1397
02:15:35,149 --> 02:15:40,355
public like to speak on this item during this official open public comment period?

1398
02:15:40,355 --> 02:15:45,831
okay. For those at home, there's a huge crowd here, just so you

1399
02:15:45,831 --> 02:15:49,702
know. Is there anybody on zoom? >> no, mayor.

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02:15:49,702 --> 02:15:52,571
>> great. This is me closing public comment period.

1401
02:15:52,571 --> 02:15:57,909
and any final thoughts from the council? >> only that I didn't have

1402
02:15:57,909 --> 02:16:03,314
any questions, but some of the dialogue here has prompted me to think about

1403
02:16:03,314 --> 02:16:10,255
just retention in general and so -- and I agree with councilmembers rodriguez and

1404
02:16:10,255 --> 02:16:17,462
adams and you that retention is not only our biggest challenge but hopefully will

1405
02:16:17,462 --> 02:16:21,662
be an opportunity as well. So... >> great.

1406
02:16:25,603 --> 02:16:28,474
looks like we are all set. Thank you for the presentation.

1407
02:16:28,474 --> 02:16:34,146
we - let's see here -- we don't need to approve anything on this one.

1408
02:16:34,146 --> 02:16:39,546
it has been received. We appreciate it. Thank you.

1409
02:16:41,887 --> 02:16:46,224
all right, folks, we're on to item 9. Committee and liaison and

1410
02:16:46,224 --> 02:16:51,563
other reports. Council, do share. >> we did have a board

1411
02:16:51,563 --> 02:16:54,990
meeting at the bridge, nothing really need to report.

1412
02:16:54,990 --> 02:16:58,170
however, I did share on social media that we had a surprise visit while I was

1413
02:16:58,170 --> 02:17:02,707
chairing the finance and auditing committee, one of the clerk for the board came

1414
02:17:02,707 --> 02:17:09,981
up and said nancy pelosi is here and we were like, nancy pelosi is here and she just

1415
02:17:09,981 --> 02:17:14,252
showed up in the board room and it was wonderful, it was really cool.

1416
02:17:14,252 --> 02:17:21,393
I had a hance to meet her. She is an amazing woman, very lucid, extremely

1417
02:17:21,393 --> 02:17:26,864
knowledgeable and definitely has a lot of fight left in her for sure.

1418
02:17:26,864 --> 02:17:30,601
we've heard she's going to be doing in terms of teaching at berkeley so

1419
02:17:30,601 --> 02:17:35,273
excited about that, but it was an honor to meet her, and, of course, I would

1420
02:17:35,273 --> 02:17:40,812
remind everyone that she was instrumental in getting the bridge $400 million for the

1421
02:17:40,812 --> 02:17:48,612
seismic retrofit so I think she wanted to see what all that bught.

1422
02:17:49,210 --> 02:17:55,227
>> I got to attend the child care planning council since I've been appointed by

1423
02:17:55,227 --> 02:18:00,231
our mayors and councilmembers association I officially get selected by

1424
02:18:00,231 --> 02:18:03,635
the board of upervisors on the 15 pth so I'll forward some of the information that

1425
02:18:03,635 --> 02:18:08,906
looking at zip codes and money that's needed. We needof the information that

1426
02:18:08,906 --> 02:18:10,242
talked about, we're looking at zip codes and money that's needed.

1427
02:18:10,242 --> 02:18:12,311
we need two thousand2,000 spots available. That's how many kids are in

1428
02:18:12,311 --> 02:18:19,718
need of access to child care, early child care. So I'll be pushing to our

1429
02:18:19,718 --> 02:18:24,255
state legislators to see how we can get that because as we know when you take are

1430
02:18:24,255 --> 02:18:28,927
of children and families you boost the economy. So that would be really nice

1431
02:18:28,927 --> 02:18:35,733
to see that number lessen in terms of the wait list. And chamber of commerce,

1432
02:18:35,733 --> 02:18:43,533
tomorrow there is a mixer happening at santino's coffee and we had senator

1433
02:18:48,946 --> 02:18:56,822
caldon at the networking luncheon and I have to commend all of our staff and

1434
02:18:56,822 --> 02:19:03,428
our city manager and the attorney's office, senator caldon gave the city of

1435
02:19:03,428 --> 02:19:06,970
rohnert park a shout-out and said the city of rohnert park is always ready.

1436
02:19:06,970 --> 02:19:10,902
there are some cities he has to beg to be ready for a grant, and when his office

1437
02:19:10,902 --> 02:19:14,972
contacts the city is going great, we're all set up, thank you very much, and so

1438
02:19:14,972 --> 02:19:19,711
he said it makes it enjoyable to see that the funds, where they're going,

1439
02:19:19,711 --> 02:19:26,251
how quickly the staff is to jump on them and to be, so just experts in your field

1440
02:19:26,251 --> 02:19:31,456
as always. So that was great to hear from him.

1441
02:19:31,456 --> 02:19:37,261
I think that's it. >> I don't have anything current to report.

1442
02:19:37,261 --> 02:19:42,535
thank you. >> I didn't have any committee meetings, but I

1443
02:19:42,535 --> 02:19:47,607
had other things. I would like to just share that we didn't get this

1444
02:19:47,607 --> 02:19:53,678
evening but actually I actually did at the proclamation for the north

1445
02:19:53,678 --> 02:19:58,483
bay show time entertainment our host of the rohnert park car show and I wanted to

1446
02:19:58,483 --> 02:20:05,683
give a shout-out to frankielima, it is hispanic latina heritage month, and

1447
02:20:09,940 --> 02:20:16,235
so that proclamation was and we have been over at sonoma state the center for

1448
02:20:16,235 --> 02:20:19,638
environmental inquiry has a gro groovy installation that you

1449
02:20:19,638 --> 02:20:24,175
can go nd visit while you're along the creek behind sonoma state near the

1450
02:20:24,175 --> 02:20:29,247
butterfly gardens and I recommend it. It's an interdisciplinary

1451
02:20:29,247 --> 02:20:33,918
project, engineering, arts, all these folks have gotten together and collaborated on

1452
02:20:33,918 --> 02:20:40,580
some projects that encourage you to interact and engage with the space, and yeah.

1453
02:20:40,580 --> 02:20:46,598
check it out. You'll know when you see it. And then I also attended the

1454
02:20:46,598 --> 02:20:55,730
candle light vigil for he nepal and the flood victims and the good part was

1455
02:20:55,730 --> 02:21:03,473
getting to know a ocal nonprofit based here in tune the united nepalese of

1456
02:21:04,749 --> 02:21:08,420
california and they are doing wonderful work to support the nepalese

1457
02:21:08,420 --> 02:21:14,930
community here and also to fund raise for victims of the disaster.

1458
02:21:14,930 --> 02:21:20,432
so I encourage you to look them up of. Nepalese california right

1459
02:21:20,432 --> 02:21:26,571
related to that, since we did have a mini an earthquake here in the area

1460
02:21:26,571 --> 02:21:30,576
the other day, who felt it on the third? That just reminded me that we

1461
02:21:30,576 --> 02:21:34,460
definitely want to make sure we're starting to prepare ourselves.

1462
02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:40,252
I say starting because I highly doubt any of us have our go bags ready and all

1463
02:21:40,252 --> 02:21:49,595
our alerts set up. Just a reminder you can o to the soco emergency.org to

1464
02:21:49,595 --> 02:21:54,536
get reinspired and I hope that little mini earthquake reinspired you as well to

1465
02:21:54,536 --> 02:22:01,100
better prepare and we'll be talking about that here in the city as we prepare for

1466
02:22:01,100 --> 02:22:05,480
big rain this season and how we can do more regarding sandbag prep and other

1467
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:08,550
things, communications to get ourselves in order. Let's see here.

1468
02:22:08,550 --> 02:22:15,150
today is the three year anniversary for the cabayan filipino market.

1469
02:22:17,759 --> 02:22:20,950
they're right there on commerce. Check them out.

1470
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:27,570
and this saturday the 12th the asian american pacific islander coalition is doing

1471
02:22:27,570 --> 02:22:34,509
a youth leadership summit at sonoma state and it's their first ever and I'm going to

1472
02:22:34,509 --> 02:22:41,784
stop and say hi and here we're doing we're doing the natural disaster

1473
02:22:41,784 --> 02:22:47,389
preparedness workshop and pickle ball club has a d - tournament this weekend, and

1474
02:22:47,389 --> 02:22:56,989
the greek and middle eastern festival is on the 12th and 13th at st. George orthodox

1475
02:22:58,700 --> 02:23:04,673
church. Just the 12th and 13th alone, it's exciting stuff.

1476
02:23:04,673 --> 02:23:12,414
and then on the 18th through the 20th I want to remind you that we're doing e-waste

1477
02:23:12,414 --> 02:23:18,221
collection and that's at the community center and I highly ncourage you to

1478
02:23:18,221 --> 02:23:22,624
gather all those miscellaneous things that used to work and don't,

1479
02:23:22,624 --> 02:23:27,163
anything electronic can be recycled for free and it's a drive-through.

1480
02:23:27,163 --> 02:23:31,500
it's super easy to do. That's all 'm going to share for tonight.

1481
02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:35,770
I just -- >> I'm sorry you want to see more?

1482
02:23:35,770 --> 02:23:42,311
>> on the 12th it's also noah's barbecue fund raiser is happening and I believe

1483
02:23:42,311 --> 02:23:51,587
the 19th noah on the -- 19th that we're doing city of rohnert park in conjunction

1484
02:23:51,587 --> 02:23:58,787
with the metro club at rancho is mexican independence day so check

1485
02:23:58,794 --> 02:24:02,531
that out. It's open to the public and it's the third year and also

1486
02:24:02,531 --> 02:24:09,710
shout-out to our entire community from the african film festival the previous

1487
02:24:09,710 --> 02:24:16,545
weekend the car show this there's so much happening - here and getting to talk to

1488
02:24:16,545 --> 02:24:20,282
neighbors, just the range that's available is incredible.

1489
02:24:20,282 --> 02:24:27,556
so I think we're still somewhat of a hidden gem but I've heard there's a lot of

1490
02:24:27,556 --> 02:24:31,360
neighboring communities starting to come on over so another appreciation to city

1491
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:35,300
staff, however it is that you guys all help in those capacities.

1492
02:24:35,300 --> 02:24:40,430
they're all successful and safe. >> all right, folks, we

1493
02:24:42,771 --> 02:24:48,109
have item 11. Anything want to add anything to a future agenda?

1494
02:24:48,109 --> 02:24:52,114
no? Okay. Then with that, this meeting is adjourned.

1495
02:24:52,114 --> 02:24:58,000
have a beautiful rest of your evening. [ adjourned 7:54 p.m. ]