[0:05] You hear me?
[0:16] Before
[0:28] we officially open up this um meeting,
I'd like to ask um Reverend and Dr.
[0:35] Patrick Wilson to open us up in prayer.
>> I invite you to pray with me, please.
[0:40] Creator and lover of all people, we come
together today from our little corner of
[0:44] the world, aware that there are great
needs both here and all around the
[0:49] globe. We confess that we at times are
people who give false witness to your
[0:54] love and grace by neglecting others
around us. Today we come repentant of
[0:59] the times that we create a den of
robbers where we are advantaged at the
[1:03] expense of others around us. and we ask
that you would help us to see more
[1:07] clearly how we can love and care for our
neighbors in the most fruitful way. We
[1:12] also recognize that our struggles here
in our country are in some ways minor
[1:16] compared to what is happening elsewhere.
Forgive us of our tunnel vision. While
[1:21] we are limited in what we can do, we
pray in solidarity for those who are
[1:25] trying to survive in places that have
been devastated by severe storms, are in
[1:30] hostile military conquest, and facing
extreme poverty.
[1:35] God, we seek a world that is built upon
peace, hope, and love. We commit to
[1:40] collaborate with you and standing up,
speaking out, and risking much in order
[1:44] to be in the places of injustice, and to
call for a new kind of world. We dream
[1:49] of a world where all people are accepted
regardless of the color of their skin,
[1:53] their sexuality, their age, their
ability, their views, or their religion.
[1:58] We long for a time when walls come down
and hands reach out. We ache for a world
[2:02] where our lives are enhanced by
difference and inclusion rather than
[2:06] threatened by them. Until that day comes
and your kingdom reigns on earth, we
[2:11] will keep praying and we will keep
working. We give our lives to you and to
[2:16] our neighbors in the extension of loving
embrace. Amen.
[2:21] » Amen. I like I like I'd like to
officially open the Raleigh City Council
[2:25] meeting for Tuesday, September the 8th,
2026. City Council [clears throat]
[2:28] representative Mr. David Shelby will
lead us in the pledge of
[2:31] » allegiance.
[2:37] I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
[2:43] for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:50] justice for all.
[2:56] » Alrighty. Welcome. Welcome out. The
first item and first thing we have on
[3:01] our agenda tonight is consent agenda. We
will do this um putting both of the
[3:05] items that are on the consent agendum
together on the floor for one motion. Is
[3:09] there a motion to accept the consent
agenda?
[3:12] » Shelby will make that motion.
>> Second.
[3:17] » It's been moved and properly second. The
floor is open for discussion.
[3:22] Hear no further discussion. We'll move
on to a voice vote. All in favor say I.
[3:26] I. I. All
>> oppose say nay.
[3:29] The motion passes unanimously, ladies
and gentlemen. Next thing we have is our
[3:33] monthly reports and our boards and
committee minutes. Is there any
[3:38] corrections or comments from anyone on
the on the city council?
[3:44] Floor is open for a motion to approve
the committee minutes.
[3:48] » Mark will approve or motion.
>> A second move and probably second floor
[3:53] is open for discussion.
[3:57] Hear no discussion. We'll move on to a
voice vote. All in favor say I. I.
[4:02] » All oppose say nay. That pass unan.
Ladies and gentlemen. Whoa. We're moving
[4:06] pretty good tonight. Excellent. All
right. The next thing we have is
[4:09] acknowledgement and special
presentation.
[4:13] And the first one we have is a
proclamation for the walk to end
[4:17] Alzheimer's disease. And we'll be the
present. Before we have the
[4:21] presentation, we're going to have a
little information um and we're going to
[4:24] have a little reading from council
representative um ward 6. And so, ma'am,
[4:29] will you please go to the podium and
then we will do the actual proclamation
[4:34] afterward. Ma'am?
>> All right.
[4:37] Do you need me my name and address?
[laughter]
[4:43] » Good evening everybody. My name is
Amelia Markle. I represent W 6. And
[4:47] outside of my role here on the Raleigh
City Council, I also have the privilege
[4:50] of serving on the Phelps County Walk to
End Alzheimer's Committee. Our committee
[4:54] is made up of an amazing group of Phelps
County residents who have spent the past
[4:57] year planning and preparing for the
annual Phelps County Walk to End
[5:00] Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's is a horrible
disease and it is one that I hold very
[5:04] near and dear to my heart. And I'm sure
many people in this room have either
[5:07] been personally affected by Alzheimer's
or at least know somebody who has. That
[5:11] is why events like the Walk to End
Alzheimer's are so important. They give
[5:14] our they give our community a
opportunity to come together, show
[5:17] support for those affected by
Alzheimer's, honor those that we have
[5:20] lost, and raise awareness about a
disease that impacts so many families.
[5:24] I'm excited to announce that this year's
Phelps County Wat Alzheimer's will take
[5:28] place on Saturday, October 3rd at the
Lions Club Park right here in Raleigh.
[5:32] Registration will begin at 9:00 a.m. and
then the walk will officially start at
[5:36] 9:30 a.m. We would love to see our
community come out and join us. There
[5:39] will be booths set up by local Raleigh
businesses and we also encourage
[5:42] everyone to wear their purple to show
their support. Um whether you have been
[5:48] personally affected by Alzheimer's, know
someone who has or simply just want to
[5:51] come out and support an important cause,
we invite you to join us. Feel free to
[5:54] bring your friends, family members,
co-workers, neighbors, the more people
[5:57] we have walking together, the stronger
message of support we can send to those
[6:00] affected by this disease. If you would
like to register or learn more about the
[6:04] walk, there are handouts available in
the lobby table uh as you leave city
[6:08] hall today. Those handouts include
instructions on how to register. And of
[6:11] course, you're more than welcome to
email or contact me via the city's
[6:14] website. I hope you will consider
joining us for the October 3rd walk as
[6:18] the Raleigh community comes together to
continue the fight for a world without
[6:22] Alzheimer's. Thank you.
>> Thank you. I'll read segments of the
[6:26] proclamation. We'll take a picture
together if that's okay with you. All
[6:29] right.
>> Is there anybody in the crowd tonight
[6:31] from the committee just out of
curiosity? Just wanted to make sure I
[6:34] didn't exclude anybody. Okay, we're
good.
[6:36] » Outstanding. Thank you. proclamation
walk to end Alzheimer's day. Whereas
[6:41] Alzheimer's disease is a progressive and
devastating condition that affects more
[6:45] than six million Americans and their
family, robbing individuals of their
[6:49] memory, independence, and dignity.
Whereas the walk of to end Alzheimer's
[6:54] is the world's largest event to raise
awareness and funding for Alzheimer's
[6:58] care, support, and research, bringing
together people of all ages and
[7:03] background who are committed to end this
disease. And whereas the 2026 walk to
[7:08] end Alzheimer's in Phelps County will
take place on Saturday, October the 3,
[7:14] Lions Club Park in Rale, Missouri,
utilizing the community, uniting the
[7:19] community in a powerful display of
solidarity, remembrance, and hope. And
[7:24] there now, therefore, I, Lester B.
Florence Jr., the mayor of Raleigh,
[7:28] Missouri, do hereby proclaim May the
3rd, 2026,
[7:32] walk to end Alzheimer's Day. I encourage
all citizens to participate in this
[7:38] meaningful event to honor those we have
lost, support those currently living
[7:42] with the disease, and help bring us
closer to a world without Alzheimer's.
[7:53] And we will take
[7:56] » and thank you for all what you do for
this.
[8:14] Give her a round of applause. [applause]
[8:35] Next item, we have our agenda as the
recognition and we'll be hearing from
[8:39] Police Chief Will Aldridge. You have the
floor, sir.
[8:49] » Good evening.
>> Good evening.
[8:50] » Good evening.
>> Here with Cody Jones. Like to present a
[8:53] citizen commendation. I'll read the
citation and then make the uh
[8:57] presentation. So to Cody Jones for
demonstrating exceptional honesty,
[9:02] integrity, and character through
selfless actions that exemplify the
[9:05] highest ideals of citizenship. On July
19, 2026, while working at Freddy's
[9:11] Custard in Raleigh, Missouri, Miss Jones
discovered $12,000 in cash that had been
[9:16] inadvertently left behind by a customer
after they had legally withdrawn the
[9:20] funds from a bank. Miss Jones
immediately turned the money over to her
[9:24] manager who contacted the Raleigh Police
Department. Through her honesty and
[9:29] cooperation, officers were able to
identify the rightful owner and return
[9:33] the entire sum. Miss Jones actions
serves as an outstanding example of
[9:38] honesty, integrity, and personal
responsibility. Her commitment to doing
[9:42] the right thing reflects the values that
strengthen our community and inspire
[9:47] confidence in one another. In
recognition of her exceptional character
[9:51] and for exemplifying the highest
standards of integrity, the Raleigh
[9:54] Police Department proudly presents Cody
Jones with the citizen commendation.
[9:59] » Wow. [applause]
[10:04] [applause]
[10:09] [applause]
[10:19] That's awesome. That's beautiful.
[10:37] » Next, we have an agenda um recognition
of Kindra and we'll be hearing from Fire
[10:43] Chief Mr. Brennham. You have the floor,
sir.
[10:57] » Wow. All these all these amazing amazing
uh people. This really showcases how
[11:02] great our community is.
I was motion to get closer to the
[11:07] microphone. [laughter]
All right.
[11:10] » Yes, sir. So, uh, 911 Communications
also has something for Miss Kendra. This
[11:15] is Miss Kendra. Um, the presenter, uh,
is ill tonight and won't be here, so
[11:20] we'll get that to you at a a later date.
On the morning of August 7th, the city
[11:24] of Raleigh Fire and Rescue responded to
a reported structure fire and apartment
[11:27] complex. While in route, units were
advised that the back bedroom was on
[11:33] fire. Once on scene, the fire was
quickly extinguished by responding fire
[11:38] crews. The fire investigation concluded
that a batterypowered hoverboard had
[11:42] experienced thermal runaway while being
charged and caught fire. Our friend
[11:47] Kendra, say hi.
[laughter]
[11:51] She's really shy. Our friend Kendra was
at home with her younger siblings who
[11:55] were resting in the same bedroom as the
hoverboard. Kinder entered the room and
[12:00] first noticed black smoke and then fire.
Kindra grabbed her siblings, removed
[12:03] them from the room, and remembered to
close the door behind her to prevent the
[12:07] fire from spreading. Kendra got everyone
out of the apartment, called 911. Kendra
[12:12] also attempted notify others in the
apartment complex uh of the fire so they
[12:17] could get out safely.
So, the fire department has an award for
[12:23] Miss Kendra, and it's the Valor and
Exemplary Service Award presented to
[12:29] Kendra Pearson for providing life-saving
actions during a structure fire that
[12:34] protected the lives and property of a
multif family apartment complex on
[12:38] August 7th, 2026.
So, let's you guys can give that to her.
[12:45] And I think the the mayor would like to
uh talk to you as well.
[12:49] » Yes. Um the city of Rala also has a
proclamation of heroism
[12:54] uh to you. Whereas on August the 7th,
2020 2026, 12-year-old Kendra
[13:00] demonstrated extraordinary courage,
presence of mind when the hoverboard
[13:04] experienced a thermal runaway while
charging, causing a fire in her family's
[13:09] apartment. And whereas Kendra
immediately rescued her younger
[13:12] siblings, closed the bedroom door to
help contain the fire, evacuated
[13:17] everyone from the apartment, and warned
neighbor residents actions that
[13:21] prevented actions that help prevent and
protect lives and limit the spread of
[13:25] the fire. Now where is it be proclaimed
that the city of Rala and the city and
[13:30] city council as follows says that the
mayor and the city council of Rala here
[13:35] I proclaim and proudly recognize Kendra
for her exceptional bravery, selfishness
[13:41] and quick thinking and the city of
Raleigh extends a sincere gratitude for
[13:44] heroism actions and commends her for
setting example of courage, leadership
[13:50] and compassion for the entire community.
Her calm response in the face of danger
[13:56] reflects the very best of citizens in
Rala and serves as an inspiration to us
[14:01] all. We'd like to present you with this
proclamation of heronism and say
[14:05] congratulations and we're proud of you.
[applause]
[14:18] [applause]
[14:22] She's [snorts] kind of acting shy, but
you should have heard her give the uh
[14:25] interview to the television crew. She's
really good.
[14:34] [laughter]
[14:40] » Too many awards. I don't know.
>> Yes.
[14:57] have all your photos.
>> We're so proud of you. [applause]
[15:05] [applause]
[15:19] Next item we have on our agenda is um
presentation from Miss Courtney Jones
[15:25] from the Celebration Nation.
>> Is Courtney here?
[15:31] » Oh, hi.
>> Yes.
[15:34] » Oops.
>> Thanks. I'm Courtney Jones and I'm here
[15:38] to represent the uh Missouri S&T uh
engagement and outreach and celebration
[15:43] of nations. I just wanted to invite
everyone out. I have a few a couple of
[15:47] slides to show with you. I thought would
share this year's commercial. Um we're
[15:52] super excited. We're just about two and
a half weeks out from this. It's a huge
[15:56] event that we do and it takes a lot of
people, committees, the city, the
[16:01] county, um and all of our students that
come out as well.
[16:12] Join us Saturday, September 26 for the
17th annual Celebration of Nations in
[16:16] downtown Raleigh.
>> Kicks on Route 66. The day begins at 11
[16:21] a.m. with a vibrant multicultural parade
followed by international food, live
[16:25] entertainment, and familyfriendly
activities until 3 p.m. Enjoy global
[16:28] cuisine, performances, vendors, and free
activities for all ages. Celebration of
[16:33] Nations is presented by Missouri S&T,
the city of Rawla, and the Rawla Area
[16:36] Chamber of Commerce and Visitors Center.
Learn more at nations.mst.edu.
[16:43] » Um, you can also go to the
nations.mst.edu
[16:47] to look at the schedule. There's a major
schedule of events. It's being updated
[16:51] every I feel like every minute at this
point as more students are back in town
[16:56] and they're like, "Oh gosh, Celebration
Nations." Um we will have our annual
[17:01] STEM around the globe in the kids area
and we have about 300 prizes to give
[17:05] away to our students this year when they
complete um the passport. Uh lots of
[17:10] cultural food and great family fun. A
great time to connect as well. Um and
[17:15] then just the parade information. Um I
just wanted to bring up that the lineup
[17:20] will actually happen um along Main
Street and then it won't start until 6th
[17:26] then Maine. uh lineup will begin at 9:30
in the morning and the students uh the
[17:32] walkers will walk all the way through
and straight to the stage where the MC
[17:36] will be there waiting for them. So that
should be a much smoother transition,
[17:40] but we're really excited about the event
this year and it's just right around the
[17:43] corner. I wanted to invite everyone to
come out and support Celebration of
[17:47] Nations.
>> Any questions?
[17:51] » Could you repeat those dates? The date,
please.
[17:53] » Yeah, September 26th.
>> Okay. Thank you. Yeah, of course.
[17:57] » Courtney, do you mind sharing the
presentation and video that you had with
[18:01] us so we can provide it to council as it
didn't show on our monitors? I sure
[18:06] will. And we can also hopefully share
that also on social media.
[18:09] » Okay, that'd be great. Um, who do I send
it to?
[18:12] » If you want to send that to Lori.
>> Okay, I'll take care of it. Thank you so
[18:15] much and thank you for your time.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[18:22] » It is the moment. All
[18:34] right. Next item we have on the agenda
is a public hearing in the first reading
[18:39] for regarding the fiscal year 2027
budget 2027 sewer fees. We'll be hearing
[18:46] from city administrator Mr. Keith
Riceberg. You have the floor, sir.
[18:49] » Thank you, mayor. Um, I first want to
acknowledge it's always a great, you
[18:52] know, way of starting the budget public
hearing to have items that precede it
[18:57] where you're having the whole room, you
know, recognizing young adults and
[19:01] having standing ovations. So, I'm
certain everyone will give the budget
[19:05] message also a standing ovation when
we're done.
[19:09] So tonight's um public hearing is for
the presentation of the fiscal 20 year 7
[19:14] budget as well as the increase in uh
rates associated with the adoption of
[19:20] the budget. The budget as it has been
presented to the city council across all
[19:25] funds anticipates revenues in excess of
$48 million and on the expenditure side
[19:32] has over $51 million of proposed
expenses. The expenditures do exceed the
[19:39] revenues as the city is continuing a
planned spendown of our fund balance
[19:44] that is associated with capital
improvement projects. The budget as it
[19:48] is being brought forward is in
compliance with legal requirements and
[19:52] consistent with the past approaches for
the city's budget.
[19:57] The listing of the city's nine funds is
shown in the budget message along with a
[20:01] detailed explanation of the key actions
that will be achieved with this year's
[20:06] budget as part of the overall budget
plan.
[20:11] The budget as it is presented does
address several of city council's
[20:14] priorities as reflected through
resolution 2093.
[20:19] Specifically, the budget includes a 5%
increase for our employees starting in
[20:24] October. The intent with this wage
adjustment being to make the city more
[20:29] competitive in our efforts in hiring key
positions. One of the challenges the
[20:34] city has had over the past years is
finding employees and filling positions.
[20:38] So, we're hoping that this adjustment
starts to address that. Recognizing that
[20:43] our employees are responsible for the
delivery of services to our citizen, the
[20:49] budget does include funding to develop a
compensation plan that will allow the
[20:53] city over time to improve the
compensation and benefits for our
[20:57] employees. Again, our goal is to be
competitive so that we can fill and
[21:01] retain our quality employees.
The budget does undertake a number of
[21:06] capital improvements and one-time
projects. These improvements range from
[21:10] needed improvements here at city hall to
uh the rehab of the runway and taxiway
[21:17] at the airport to various street
improvement projects. One of the largest
[21:22] of those projects being the RA storm
sewer reconstruction.
[21:28] The budget as presented does reflect the
anticipated revenue to be res to be
[21:33] received from the approval of
Proposition S. This reverses a trend of
[21:39] the center pulling funds from the
general fund and actually starts to uh
[21:44] contribute funds back to the general
fund. The budget does include funding
[21:49] for the planning efforts to reimagine
the natiatorum moving forward in the
[21:53] coming year. However, what is not
reflected in the budget is the
[21:58] anticipated interfund loan for the
near-term capital improvements that we
[22:02] expect to be made at the center. The
budget also does not reflect the
[22:06] financing that is expected to fund the
natiatorum improvements as those
[22:11] projects would be incorporated in the
budget through a future budget
[22:15] amendment.
The budget was reviewed and discussed
[22:19] with the finance and audit committee on
August 18th and with the full council at
[22:24] a public meeting on August 24th.
Tonight's public hearing is again to
[22:29] also receive comments on the anticipated
rate increases associated with the
[22:33] budget, specifically the budget
anticipated to rate adjustments. The
[22:38] sewer fund anticipates a rate increase
effective January 1st, 2027.
[22:44] The ordinance to implement the sewer
rate increase is on the agenda for
[22:47] action later this evening. the user rate
increases 10 cents per thousand gallons
[22:52] and the service availability fee
increase um adjustment between the two
[22:57] of those will increase the average
household sewer bill by $140 per month.
[23:04] Also, with the budget, we're
anticipating environmental services rate
[23:07] increases being effective January 1st,
2027. The ordinance that uh will
[23:14] implement those rates will be brought
forward after the adoption of the
[23:17] budget. Again, the average increase to
our residential household for the
[23:22] environmental service adjustments will
be approximately $2 per month.
[23:28] These rate increases are small increases
with the intent to be make to make
[23:33] smaller regular rate adjustments as
opposed to larger periodic increases.
[23:39] the adoption of the ordinance
appropriating um this the approving the
[23:43] budget does appropriate the funds as
outlined in the budget and in accordance
[23:49] with the city's purchasing and
procurement guidelines. The council will
[23:53] still be required to approve contracts
and other projects throughout the course
[23:57] of the year. I do want to recognize and
thank the department directors as well
[24:02] as our finance staff for the work to
present this budget, you know, for the
[24:07] council's consideration. We'll be glad
to answer any questions council may have
[24:11] regarding the budget as well as any
questions that are raised by the public.
[24:16] Final reminder is tonight is the first
reading of the ordinance to adopt the
[24:21] budget. The final reading and adoption
is set to occur on September 21st. So
[24:26] there are time know there is time if
council has questions that you want to
[24:31] ask following tonight's meeting please
bring those questions to us with that
[24:36] mayor we'll be glad to hear any concerns
or comments from the public.
[24:41] » I was pretty sure that I did open the
public hearing but I always like to
[24:44] check and double check and say we will
now open the public hearing in case I
[24:48] didn't do it the first time. The public
hearing is now open. Um, is there anyone
[24:52] in the audience who would like to give
testimony or support in opposition or
[24:57] for
[25:01] anyone would like to speak? You have
three minutes to speak.
[25:06] Making sure that I'm given the
opportunity for someone to come up come
[25:09] forward.
Okay. Hearing the seeing that there's no
[25:14] one coming forward, we'll move on. Is
there any other questions or comments
[25:18] from council?
Yes, sir.
[25:22] » Keith, I just wanted to ask you this. I
So, you mentioned Prop S. When does the
[25:27] city start receiving those funds?
>> So, the city has given notice to the
[25:32] state um of the passage of that ballot
initiative. We are and expecting that
[25:38] the collection of that tax revenue will
start January 1st in terms of collection
[25:45] by the um vendors in the community and
the city will not actually receive any
[25:51] funds until March of 2027
>> and that's reflected in this budget.
[25:57] » That is correct.
>> Thank you.
[26:03] » Yes, sir.
>> Um Keith had a question. This may be
[26:06] more appropriate to bring up at the
sewer um uh fee increase, but on page 68
[26:13] on the budget, it deals with the sewer
fund and it shows that the revenue is
[26:18] about 7 million and the expenditure is
6.5 million. Um first of all, I'm
[26:23] assuming that assumes the um increase in
fees. I believe you already confirmed
[26:28] that. With that being said, in the sewer
uh on page 139, this is where I'm not
[26:33] sure I can talk about this later if you
prefer. It it mentions that that still
[26:37] considers deficit spending
in that packet. And I was I wasn't sure
[26:42] how that comment on page 139 reflects,
unless I misunderstand the numbers. Um,
[26:48] so on page 139 it says this increase
still requires deficit spending in the
[26:53] sewer fund
by about $100,000,
[26:57] but then in the budget itself it looks
like we're about $500,000
[27:02] over in revenue. Am I misunderstanding
something there?
[27:09] I'm gonna let Darren speak to his cover
memo, but I'm gonna
[27:16] go to
[27:21] again the sewer fund.
[27:26] I believe
[27:30] I'm gonna look to Stephanie if she has
the page handy.
[27:36] All right. funds.
I don't have the page number on the
[27:41] sewer fund right now.
>> Oh, sorry.
[27:43] » Bear with me.
[27:50] » Stephanie, do you have the cover sheet
for the sewer fun?
[27:54] » So, right there.
>> Yeah.
[27:55] » This is misprint on page 68.
[28:01] » We got two different numbers for
revenue.
[28:04] » Okay.
Look at page 65, Nathan. Page on the
[28:11] budget, I guess, in the packet.
>> So, yeah, page
[28:16] » So, page 65 has the listing of the
sewer.
[28:20] » That's 5.3
million.
[28:24] » It looks like 68 is the the state.
>> Yeah. Where we didn't get the number
[28:28] corrected in my budget message.
So, the table has the actual numbers. So
[28:34] the the correct amount
>> is 5.3 of revenue.
[28:39] » Correct. And the expense is the 6.497.
[28:44] » You were referencing I thought back on
the ordinance.
[28:49] » Um
it's like three pages further. Page 68.
[28:55] » All right.
>> It gives a breakdown of sewer fund.
[28:58] » Yeah. All right.
So the table has the correct numbers.
[29:04] » Okay.
>> So the the misper is on page 68.
[29:07] » I think he's referring to page 95
>> that represents
[29:11] » on 68 it says
>> but the 100,000 deficit is also on page
[29:14] 95.
>> Okay.
[29:18] » I mean without checking numbers my guess
is the the numbers in the in the memo
[29:23] » is probably before the fund transfers
>> the second the expenditure. I mean if if
[29:28] you look at page 95
>> excess revenues over expenditures is
[29:32] 520,000
>> but that's before the fund transfers to
[29:36] you know to to the several funds so
that's why it's showing a a deficit of
[29:41] 109,000
>> okay thank you
[29:44] » y
>> on page 65 there's two revenue line
[29:49] items that one of those
>> oh for the environmental services fun
[29:57] And that same number is repeated on 68.
So maybe it is accurate for
[30:00] environmental services but not for
sewer.
[30:03] » That's correct.
>> Can you say one more time which one's
[30:07] correct?
>> The environmental services one.
[30:11] » So if you compare it to page 95,
the total revenue on page 95 is the
[30:18] sewer revenue.
[30:21] » The top section under revenue
[30:30] All right. So the 7 million is
[30:38] » so the revenue is 7 million
>> but then there's funds transfers. Okay.
[30:42] » But then the fund Okay. That's what
Darren was saying of the
[30:48] » and then on page 98 is the environmental
services which matches the table like
[30:52] she's indicated.
So what is the revenue for the
[30:57] environmental services as reflected on
the cover sheet?
[31:01] » Uh 7,18,182.
[31:05] » So in the
>> That's for sewer.
[31:06] » That's for sewer.
>> All right. And what is it for the
[31:09] environmental services?
>> 5,356,500.
[31:13] All right.
So, in the table at the front of the
[31:18] budget message, we reflected the sewer
number or the environmental services
[31:23] number in this
>> sewer revenues.
[31:26] » So, the sewer fund was the incorrect one
on that on the cover page.
[31:34] » Yes.
>> So, with that being said, then the sewer
[31:37] fund is not a deficit.
Well, if you look at page 95, okay,
[31:42] » the fund itself is not a deficit.
>> Okay.
[31:45] » The revenue before expenditures has a
revenue increase of 520,000.
[31:51] » Gotcha.
>> By the time that the transfers are made
[31:53] to the the funds that the sewer
department helps fund, engineering,
[31:58] general fund contribution, and things
like that, that is where the $109,000
[32:02] deficit takes place. That brings the
fund balance down 109,000. Okay? So, the
[32:07] cash balance will be down 109,000. And
Darren said all that. My brain was just
[32:10] taking a long time to catch up. I'm I'm
sorry. I appreciate connecting all those
[32:14] numbers.
>> He prepped me. He prepped me. Fine.
[32:16] » Okay. Thank you.
[32:20] Was a good catch.
[32:24] » Excellent question. Still open for you
council to any other questions or
[32:29] comments?
[32:32] » I I did have one more mayor.
>> Absolutely sir.
[32:35] » Um so on page 69 uh this is more of a
general question. And so there's a
[32:39] cemetery trust fund and it says the
revenues that come in is 40,000. Our
[32:45] expenditures is $5,000, but we have
almost $500,000 in [snorts] um the
[32:51] ending fund balance there. And I wasn't
sure like for how much we're spending on
[32:55] an annual basis. I wasn't sure why we
kept so much in there if if that's just
[33:00] how that fund works. But I mean it's
enough for like a hundred years at
[33:04] $5,000 a year that we have to save in
that fund. So, I wasn't sure what that
[33:07] generally is used for or if this was a
oddly low year of expenditures.
[33:11] » It varies between the 5,000 or 50,000
depends on the project or the need in
[33:16] the cemetery. Okay.
>> So, the cemetery expenses are do not
[33:19] include any labor for the cost or the
operation of the cemetery. That is all
[33:23] funded through the parks division.
>> Okay.
[33:25] » This is a fund that has to have a
twothirds majority vote for council
[33:29] because it is basically a trust fund.
So, we had did not start putting money
[33:33] back into that trust fund for probably
the first five to 10 years that I've
[33:37] been here. Okay. And so, we are then
trying to rebuild that so that there's
[33:40] any major improvements. This has to
sustain its own operations or a new wing
[33:46] or different things like that that would
take place.
[33:48] » So, we So, you feel that that amount
reflects an appropriate amount to be in
[33:51] there for a larger project that may be
needed down the down the line? Yes.
[33:55] » Okay. Thank you.
[34:02] Yes, sir. You got the floor.
>> Yeah, thank you. Um, page 88 under
[34:06] animal control expenditures
under capital expenditures, there's a
[34:13] line called
uh grant expenses. What What is a grant
[34:18] expense?
[34:23] So that is the grant and donations
account because they typically do not
[34:26] receive federal or state grants. We
instead of adding another line for audit
[34:30] compliance, we included that. So if
people have donations or if they're
[34:34] going to some people will donate money
for food like dog food, animal food,
[34:38] that's where that account is for. That's
why it's so small because of the coming
[34:43] year it's $2,000.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[34:48] Any
[34:54] further questions from council?
Any further questions from councel?
[35:01] Hear. No further further questions,
comments. We'll now close the public
[35:04] hearing. Um, can I have a further
reading from our attorney?
[35:09] Bill number 202621,
an ordinance adopting an annual budget
[35:14] for the fiscal year beginning on October
1, 2026 and appropriating funds pursuant
[35:19] there too. All right. Next on the
agenda, we have old business and we have
[35:23] one bill for final reading and we will
hear from community developer director,
[35:28] Mrs. Don Bell.
[35:45] Okay. So, this is for the voluntary
rental inspection program uh that we
[35:49] already talked about the last city
council meeting. So, I'll try to go
[35:51] pretty quick.
Um the comprehensive plan um under goal
[35:56] to highquality housing and neighborhoods
um called out doing a rental inspection
[36:01] program to promote safe rental housing
inventory. Um, in addition to that,
[36:07] we've had many inquiries from
prospective tenants and families,
[36:10] especially at the beginning of
semesters. Uh, parents and students call
[36:14] to find out if there's a list of um,
rental units that are certified.
[36:20] Also, Missouri S&T called um the
fraternity sorority houses um, are not
[36:27] regulated by S&T, so they asked if we
had a rental inspection program and
[36:30] asked if we could help them out with
that. [clears throat]
[36:35] Who can participate? Owners, property
man managers of single family, town
[36:40] homes, apartments, group residences, the
fraternity and sority houses that I
[36:44] talked about, rooming, boarding houses,
and um other similar residences like uh
[36:50] religious homes and that sort of thing.
Um again, the participation is
[36:54] voluntary. It's not required. Uh there's
no penalty for not participating, but it
[37:00] will be incentivized. Um the
participation will be incentivized by
[37:04] including it on on a list on our website
of uh certified properties.
[37:10] Uh so the property owner or manager will
apply. They'll pay the fee. Um we'll
[37:15] provide an inspection. We'll provide
either provide them a list of
[37:18] deficiencies to fix or a certificate of
inspection and that certificate will be
[37:22] good for two years.
And on the checklist there's basic
[37:28] health and safety issues. I won't read
through all those. We talked about those
[37:31] last time, but um just basic safety uh
things that you would look for, you
[37:36] know, as a parent of a student coming in
or as a as a new tenant um to make you
[37:42] feel comfortable to live in that space.
And just here are some of the pictures
[37:46] that that I showed last time.
And does anybody have any questions?
[37:53] » Yes, sir.
>> Hi, Don. Thank you. I received three
[37:56] questions from a constituent, so I'd
like to read them in order if I can.
[37:59] » Sure. Um the first one was will the same
fee apply for renewals as for second
[38:05] attempt um reinspections? In other
words, when it when the property is up
[38:11] after its two years have expired, um
will there'll be the same fee schedule
[38:16] applying to as as would apply for those
that failed the first inspection?
[38:21] » Well, so the two years um would be for
ones that didn't fail. So, um, so yeah,
[38:28] so the same fee would apply as if it
were a new application because in in
[38:33] theory in two years, you know, smoke
detectors could be pulled down by
[38:36] students or, you know, a lot of
different things could happen.
[38:40] » Okay, thank you. Um, the second one, uh,
in section 20-58A,
[38:47] um, it mentions that there could be
revocation for cause, right? You've got
[38:50] 24 months where you have the
certificate, but it could be pulled, um,
[38:54] if there was a reason to do so. Um, and
this constituent wanted to know what
[38:58] would that process look like maybe as
far as ascertaining cause um, and what
[39:05] kind of communications might follow from
[snorts] that that decision.
[39:09] » Sure. Uh, the way that I see that would
be a tenant might call and say, you
[39:13] know, the the landlord came in and did
some repairs and, you know, painted my
[39:17] window shut. Uh, that sort of thing. Um
and so then we would reach out to that
[39:22] property owner and give them a chance to
correct this to correct the situation.
[39:26] » Okay. Thank you. Um finally, uh what
happens what what do you anticipate
[39:32] happening to certify properties if you
were to change the checklist while they
[39:36] were still in their window of
certification? Would they be
[39:39] grandfathered in? Would there be an
automatic reinspection? What do you
[39:42] think?
>> Uh they would be grandfathered in. I
[39:44] don't anticipate changing that checklist
often, if at all. Um, but and I wouldn't
[39:50] say within, you know, a certain window,
we probably wouldn't do that at all, but
[39:54] but yeah, they would be grandfathered.
We wouldn't require them to let us come
[39:58] back in to to check.
>> Okay. All right. That's all I have.
[40:01] Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[40:04] » Your first question there, because in
the exhibit B fee, it says initial
[40:09] inspection fee $40 flat, reinspection
fee 25. So after the two years, is it
[40:16] back to the 40 year 40?
>> Correct. the 25
[40:18] » the 25's 25 is if there is a deficiency
and we have to go back out in that same
[40:23] time period.
>> I see what you're asking there, Andrew.
[40:25] The So,
>> yes.
[40:26] » Okay. Thank you for the clarification.
>> Yes, ma'am.
[40:32] » Um I just want to make sure will we be
getting the presentation that Don
[40:35] presented to. I just wanted to make sure
that there was nothing on the
[40:37] presentation that we didn't see that was
already in our packet just because we
[40:41] couldn't see the presentation to follow
along with what you were saying.
[40:44] » Oh, I'm sorry.
>> No, you're [laughter] introducing it to
[40:46] all of us afterwards. That would be
great. I just want to
[40:48] » Yeah, sure. I can send out. Yeah, I can
send it out.
[40:50] » Um, and then my second question was in
terms of sanitation on exhibit A, um,
[40:55] where where would black mold fall under
because I see that there's like, you
[40:59] know, appears free of rodent inspection
and then no litter, garbage, or waste,
[41:02] but I'm not seeing one that's that's
like for
[41:05] » for that specifically. Um,
>> so that's not something that we are
[41:10] certified to actually inspect for. Um, I
would anticipate that if we saw an issue
[41:14] that was um, really egregious that we
would ask that landlord to get an
[41:20] inspection done. Um, but it would fall
under that sanitation.
[41:24] » Gotcha. Um, and then my last question is
because this is the first year that that
[41:28] we're doing this, will it be you that's
reaching out to like the IFC or the uh,
[41:33] president of each fraternity or will you
be like working with S&T and they'll be
[41:37] the ones that are introducing that to?
>> Yeah. So, I will um I've got some
[41:40] contacts with S&T, the the housing
department, and they and they will reach
[41:44] out to the different folks.
>> Cool. Thanks, Tom.
[41:51] » I got asked a question and I forgot to
submit it to you, but it's pretty
[41:54] straightforward and simple that um I was
contacted by um
[42:00] renters and they wanted to know if they
have property outside the city limits
[42:05] and they wanted to be included in this.
there's no provision for them to because
[42:09] they were trying to figure a way that
they can tell,
[42:13] you know, parents and tell students
that, you know, that we we have this
[42:17] apartment, we have this and we're close
to the vicinity, but there's nothing in
[42:20] our provision right now that allows them
to be able to to take advantage of this.
[42:24] Correct.
>> Correct.
[42:24] » Yes, ma'am.
[42:30] » Yes, sir. And this is a voluntary
program. So if it was to become
[42:35] mandatory, it would have to come back to
council.
[42:37] » It would. Yes. And and I would foresee
that we would do, you know, a committee
[42:43] um made up of some landlords in the area
and probably S&T, some different folks
[42:48] um to make sure that, you know, we're
following what everybody everybody's
[42:53] needs.
[42:57] Further questions, comments.
Further questions, comments.
[43:03] Thank you very much. Can we have the
first reading from our city attorney?
[43:06] » Second reading. Final
>> final reading. Final reading.
[43:09] » Yeah.
>> Bill number 2026-17.
[43:13] An ordinance of the city of Raleigh,
Missouri, adding a new article to
[43:16] chapter 20, housing of the code of the
city of Raleigh, Missouri, establishing
[43:20] a voluntary rental dwelling inspection
program for single family, town home,
[43:25] apartment, and group residence rental
dwellings.
[43:28] » Floor is open for a motion.
>> Our motion, we'll second.
[43:34] » Move probably second. Floor is open for
discussion.
[43:40] Hear no further discussion. We'll have a
roll call vote.
[43:43] » Dickens,
>> yes.
[43:45] » Shelby,
>> yes.
[43:47] » Sperry,
>> yes.
[43:48] » McNeel,
>> yes.
[43:50] » Barren,
>> yes.
[43:51] » Gans,
>> yes.
[43:53] » Markwell,
>> yes.
[43:54] » Brown,
>> yes.
[43:56] » Jackson,
>> yes.
[43:57] » Churban,
>> yes.
[43:59] » Pace,
>> no.
[44:03] » 10.
>> Motion passes. Ladies and gentlemen, the
[44:06] next item we have is on the new business
and we will hear from city
[44:11] administrator, Mr. Keith Rainsburg is
going to be appointment for employee
[44:15] represented to Larger's annual meetings.
Sir, you have the floor.
[44:17] » Thank you, mayor. Uh, the city of
Raleigh has participated in the Logger's
[44:21] retirement system for some time and has
historically sent both a employer as
[44:28] well as employee representatives to
participate in the annual meeting. This
[44:32] year's annual meeting is scheduled for
October 29th and 30th in Springfield.
[44:37] The employees will be electing their
delegate to attend this meeting and we
[44:42] are asking the council to either
designate a council member to attend on
[44:48] behalf of the city or if no council
members wish to attend, authorize the
[44:52] city administrator to designate someone
to attend the loggger's annual meeting
[44:57] as the employer representative.
[45:04] floor is open for discussions, comments.
[45:11] » Yes, sir. You have the floor.
>> If I just addressing my fellow council
[45:15] members, unless any of you feel like you
really want to talk about pension plans,
[45:20] I think this is something that the uh
administration deals with all of the
[45:23] time and knows uh very well. So my my
suggestion would be to allow the
[45:30] administrator to make that appointment.
>> Sounds like you want to do a motion.
[45:34] » Well, I want to [laughter]
discussing this idea of my colleagues.
[45:41] » Yes, absolutely.
[45:46] I hear no discussion about what you
propose. So
[45:49] » therefore, I I would uh wish to make a
motion to authorize the city
[45:53] administrator to make that designation.
Jackson second.
[45:59] » Moved and probably second. Floor is open
for discussion.
[46:02] [clears throat]
[46:05] » Hear no discussion. We'll move on to a
voice vote. All in favor say I.
[46:09] » I.
>> All oppose say nay.
[46:11] » The eyes have it. Ladies and gentlemen,
pass your answers. Yes, sir.
[46:14] » We'll make the designation so the city
has an employer representative at the
[46:18] conference center.
>> I'll stand.
[46:19] » Thank you.
Next item we have up on um on our agenda
[46:24] is we'll be hearing from public works
director Mr. Darren Prior and he be will
[46:29] be talking to us about whether we're
going to approve an NRA field for Greek
[46:34] games and for September 2026 with beer
sales. You have the floor sir.
[46:39] » So staff received a request from the
Missouri S&T IFC to use the Rand
[46:44] National um airport extravaganza
appealed uh for the Greek week games.
[46:49] Um, this event is taking place at that
location for at least 20 years. Uh,
[46:53] we've had good cooperation from the
students on this event. Um, this request
[46:57] does include beer sales. Um, which
requires a state license, insurance, um,
[47:02] security and bus transportation for all
participants. Um, organizers will be
[47:08] hiring two u members of Phelps County
Sheriff's Department to check IDs. Um,
[47:12] staff has received all the necessary
documentation. Um, so tonight we'll be
[47:17] asking for a motion to approve the use
of the RA National Airport Fields for
[47:21] the Greek Week Games on September 26
with beer sales. Is there any questions?
[47:30] » Yes, sir.
>> Uh, Darren, you said that this has gone
[47:33] on for 20 years with no issues. Um, does
that also include the aspects of like
[47:39] the beer sales?
>> I can only speak for the last 11 when
[47:42] I've been here, but but yes.
>> Okay. Thank you. [snorts]
[47:47] » Did you have one? Yes. Yes, sir. You
have floor.
[47:50] » Uh, so Darren, what kind of liability
does the city have if some student
[47:56] decides to drive up there and get toilet
hug and drunk and then drive back to
[48:01] Raleigh and gets in an accident?
>> Well, the first thing is they're not
[48:04] allowed to drive there.
>> Okay.
[48:06] » Um, they will be bust. That's a
requirement. Um, so I've got a
[48:10] representative of IFC here. Maybe he can
speak a little more to that.
[48:17] Uh hello, my name is Houston Bragg. I'm
the chairman of the IFC.
[48:21] » Yes.
>> Uh if you would mind repeating your
[48:23] question.
>> So uh my question uh was what kind of
[48:29] liability does the city have if a
student uh decides to drive to the
[48:35] event, gets drunk, and then decides to,
you know, when they're ready to go, they
[48:39] drive back to LA and then get in an
accident.
[48:42] » Yeah. So, um we have uh a busing company
um that everybody signs a waiver for
[48:48] that'll be transporting students to and
from. So, um the only people that'll be
[48:53] transporting uh um themselves in their
own vehicles is to set up and break down
[48:58] and um at that point we have uh sober
monitors and uh cops there to check and
[49:04] make sure.
>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
[49:06] » Yeah. And I will mention they do provide
an insurance certificate naming the city
[49:11] is additional insured uh for using city
property.
[49:15] » Thank you
for here and then I'll come back to you
[49:19] now.
>> My question was already answered. Thank
[49:21] you.
>> Excellent. Yes, ma'am.
[49:23] » M how many students attend this? Uh
we're expecting around 150
[49:28] » and every day or
>> No, it'll be um the opening games will
[49:33] be um the 12th and then it'll be
happening again the 19th. Same busing
[49:38] services, same
>> through the 19th. [clears throat] It's
[49:40] 12th and 19th.
>> 12th and 19th. Yes.
[49:46] » Do they attend classes then that week?
>> I mean,
[49:50] » yes, they will be attending classes. We
we will have um activities through the
[49:56] school during the week, but that'll be
after classes.
[50:05] » For the questions from council
[50:10] for the questions for council.
>> You still your last name?
[50:14] » B R A U.
[50:20] » All right.
There are no further questions. Um,
[50:24] floor is now open for a motion to
approve.
[50:28] » Terminal motion to approve. [cough]
>> Moved in probably a second. Floor is
[50:33] open for discussion.
[50:37] Hearing no further discussion, we'll do
a voice vote. All in favor say I.
[50:42] » Can I call something? I'm sorry.
>> Oh, you discussion. We can go back. Yes.
[50:46] » I I I apologize. No,
>> it it just doesn't specify unless I'm
[50:50] Does it say it's a resolution?
>> It's a motion. Motion.
[50:53] » Just a motion.
>> Mhm.
[50:55] » Okay. I apologize.
>> No problem. Great question.
[51:00] » So, we'll go back to the um voice vote.
All in favor say I.
[51:04] » I.
>> All oppose say nay.
[51:06] » Pass your navs, ladies and gentlemen.
>> Prayer that everybody's safe.
[51:11] » All right. Next item we have on our
agenda tonight is uh we'll be hearing
[51:15] from again public works director Mr.
Darren Brier. He'll be speak
[51:20] » I'm gonna be up here a while.
>> Yeah, you'll be up here for [laughter]
[51:23] my friend. He'll be speaking to approve
the adjustment of sewer rates for 2026
[51:27] 2027 budget years.
>> So included in the uh budget was a sewer
[51:31] increase. Um the proposed increase um
would be a dollar increase on the
[51:36] service availability fee from 14 to $15
a month and uh the rate for the per
[51:42] thousand would go from 675 to 685. So
that's a 10-cent increase. Um and then
[51:48] the other rate classes on the uh service
availability fee would go up
[51:51] accordingly.
Again um this increase for the average
[51:56] user would go from $41 a month to 4240.
So, a $140 increase. Uh, so in your
[52:02] packet is a redline version of the
ordinance that's being proposed. Uh, and
[52:08] also included in your packet was a a
rate study of some peers and some uh
[52:13] neighboring communities. Uh, again, R
was pretty middle of the road on our
[52:17] sewer rates even after our increases.
So, staff is requesting the first
[52:22] reading of the ordinance to adjust the
sewer rates for the 2627 budget year.
[52:26] And I will mention this uh the intent is
for this ordinance to go into effect uh
[52:30] the first billing after October one. So
it would show up when uh residents
[52:35] receive their bills in November.
[52:39] » So is open for questions, comments from
Mr. Prior.
[52:47] » Yes sir.
>> Be an example of a nonmetered
[52:51] customer like what's and why I guess in
those cases. So, we have a handful of uh
[52:58] residents that aren't on city water that
they still get city sewer service. So,
[53:02] we have no way of metering, you know,
how much water they're using.
[53:06] » Thank you.
>> I'm I'm one of those examples because I
[53:09] get my water from
public water supply district number two,
[53:14] but I get sewer service from the city.
[53:20] » Thank you.
[snorts]
[53:23] » Yes, ma'am. How when was the last time
this was raised?
[53:27] » Last year.
>> So, is it like a gradual increase?
[53:30] » That's the plan. Yes.
>> You want to speak, sir?
[53:35] » Yeah. Darren, can I just confirm? You
indicated the service availability fee
[53:39] goes from $14 to 15.
>> Correct.
[53:43] » Okay. The ordinance that's in the packet
does not reflect that.
[53:47] » We'll make sure and get that fixed.
>> Yeah, that's why I wanted to raise that.
[53:50] So where it shows the service
availability fee the per month as 14
[53:57] that should be 150.
[54:09] » Oh yes we will get that corrected. The
rest of them got updated but yeah. Okay.
[54:17] Any
[54:22] other questions or comments from
council?
[54:26] » Any other questions or comments for
council?
[54:31] » Thank you very much. Can we have a press
reading from our city lawyer? Bill
[54:35] number 2026-18,
an ordinance amending certain sections
[54:39] of chapter 35 of the general ordinances
of the city of Raleigh, Missouri, known
[54:43] as the code of the city of Raleigh,
Missouri, relating to sewers and water.
[54:47] » Thank you very much, sir. Next, we have
a resol resolution to authorize the
[54:52] execution of task order number three.
Again, we'll be hearing from
[54:58] public work director, Mr. Durham Prior.
Sir,
[55:00] » so staff is proposing the approval of
task order number three with HDR
[55:04] Engineering to provide professional
services for preliminary design um and
[55:08] other services for the move
transportation development district. Um
[55:11] that task order is included in your pass
in your packet. Um this task order will
[55:16] involve three conceptual design
alternatives and preliminary design u
[55:21] for up to uh two TDD priority projects.
Uh the cost of this task order is
[55:26] $685,331.50.
50 cents. Um again, the TD board has
[55:31] agreed to um to fund this project. Um
and the reason council has to take
[55:36] action is um we are contracted by the
TDD board to serve as a fiscal agent. So
[55:42] um you know this board um approves all
contracts and makes payments to
[55:46] contractors and consultants and then is
reimbursed by the TDD. So staff is
[55:52] requesting approval of a resolution
authorizing the mayor to execute task
[55:56] order number three with HDR engineering
[56:02] is open for questions, comments from
council.
[56:07] » Darren, would you be willing to give
kind of an idea of what what exactly the
[56:10] TDD is and
>> kind of how that works in relation to
[56:15] us? So we're the funding agent, but
>> so so the transportation development
[56:19] district is a quasi governmental board
um that is made up of so the the mayor
[56:25] [snorts] is the chairman of that board.
They had their annual meeting tonight.
[56:29] Mayor was like the chairman. Um Keith is
the executive director. Uh Jason
[56:34] Shinnfield is on the board and I forget
is he secretary I think. Um Fred Stone
[56:41] from Missouri S&T is on the board and is
treasurer I believe. Um and then Joey
[56:47] Oxshire, the presiding commissioner of
Phelps County
[56:51] vice president, right? I think I got
those right. Um so uh they're
[56:57] essentially a funding mechanism. So the
the TDD is an overlay uh sales tax on
[57:04] most of the commercial property in
Raleigh, not all. um that was formed
[57:08] back in 2015 I believe was was the year
uh so that's what paid for uh you know
[57:14] the highway 72 extension for example you
know some of those major capital
[57:18] projects so uh they issued bonds and
then uh collect sales tax to pay those
[57:23] bonds off
>> is that
[57:26] » I think so
>> okay any other questions if I left
[57:29] something out just let me know
>> and I guess of this because this is a a
[57:33] large amount so I I I I read through it
But generally what what are we expecting
[57:38] to get from this this plan? Like what
what are they hoping to accomplish with
[57:42] this?
>> So again, it'd be three, you know, three
[57:45] alternatives for for two projects. So
you know, they'll come up, you know, you
[57:49] know, the plan is be able to at the end
of this to have some public meetings
[57:53] for, you know, the public to weigh in on
which of the three alternatives for
[57:57] projects they prefer. [snorts]
>> I think you want to speak, Keith.
[58:00] » Oh, sorry.
So again, the move TDD is advancing some
[58:08] regional infrastructure projects. To
Darren's point, right now, again, we've
[58:13] moved forward with the feasibility
study, looking at the larger regional
[58:17] improvements, specifically anticipating
um focusing on the 10th Street overpass
[58:24] and Westside outer road projects as ones
that will likely move forward. To
[58:29] Darren's point, the goal is to advance
concepts that will allow us to start
[58:33] public engagement about how to move
those projects forward. Um, again, the
[58:39] investment in infrastructure that we're
trying to achieve through the move TDD
[58:44] is intended to leverage and facilitate
private development, private investment
[58:49] as well.
>> Thank you for the specifics. That kind
[58:52] of helps with that. I appreciate it.
Any
[58:58] further questions, council?
Any further questions, council?
[59:06] » All right. Well, thank you very much,
sir. Um, the floor is now open for a
[59:10] motion.
>> I always miss that one. It's okay. Yeah,
[59:14] we're good. resolution.
>> Um, we'll have the city attorney to to
[59:22] do a a reading.
>> A resolution authorizing the mayor to
[59:27] execute a certain agreement between the
city of Raleigh, Missouri and HDR
[59:30] Engineering, Inc. [snorts]
>> All right. Now, the floor is open for a
[59:34] motion.
>> I'll make a motion to approve.
[59:37] » Second move and proper second floor is
open for discussion.
[59:43] Hearing no further discussion, we'll
move on to a voice vote.
[59:49] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[59:51] » All oppose say nay.
The eyes have it. Pass uns ladies and
[59:56] gentlemen.
Next item again, we're hearing from
[59:59] director Mr. Darren Brier. And he'll be
talking about bill number 2026-9. You
[1:00:05] have the floor, sir.
>> So staff is approing an approval and
[1:00:08] agreement with Johnson Controls uh for
repairs of the center. Included in this
[1:00:12] proposal, repairs the roof, HVAC
systems, building envelope, uh, window
[1:00:17] film, uh, structural, uh, controls and
utility metering. Uh, not included in
[1:00:22] this proposal were upgrades to the
interior exterior lighting. So, the city
[1:00:27] did work with a a different um
contractor consultant in the beginning
[1:00:34] to develop a you know, a preliminary
scope for this project. Um, we are a
[1:00:40] little over the original budget we had
planned. Um, and so I'll talk to that a
[1:00:44] little bit here. Of course, you can you
guys see the presentation?
[1:00:47] » All right.
>> Half of us can half can.
[1:00:50] » Okay. All right.
>> There's monitors.
[1:00:54] » Thank you.
So, so again this will be a
[1:00:57] comprehensive upgrade of you know
replacement of HBA systems you know
[1:01:01] building automation um
roofing structural um you know Johnson
[1:01:07] Controls intent is to hire locally
whenever possible um that you know makes
[1:01:11] a positive impact on the community
and they'll be able to deliver the
[1:01:15] improvements in a timely manner. So
you know one of the focus areas is the
[1:01:21] HBAC system. Um, one of the reasons why
this scope, you know, cost grew was the
[1:01:27] HVA system was in worse shape than we
anticipated. So, as you can see the
[1:01:30] pictures, these units are are definitely
aging and our end of life.
[1:01:36] You know, again, we've got roof leaks
that have, you know, we've got to fix
[1:01:40] the the roof and repair it. Um, we've
got leaks over top the pool area even.
[1:01:47] Uh, and then, you know, we do have some
structural issues. We've got some
[1:01:51] settlement and some cracks as you can
see in the pictures. You know, we've got
[1:01:54] some some walls shifting and some repair
work to do there.
[1:01:59] » So, you know, we're anticipating 12
months of work from when we started, you
[1:02:02] know, original design on this. Uh so,
we're showing, you know, if everything
[1:02:07] goes good that this project will be
completed, you know, the end of June
[1:02:10] next year.
[1:02:14] And so, uh, the biggest differences
between the original scope estimate and
[1:02:19] where we ended up was, you know, the
HVAC system, um, you know, in the
[1:02:24] ceiling, we've got, um, six variable
error terminal boxes and 23 fan terminal
[1:02:29] units, um, that are integral to the HVAC
system. Um, you know, we anticipated a
[1:02:34] few of them would probably need some
repairs. Uh, when we started testing
[1:02:38] them, only four of the 29 units were
even functioning. Uh so you know when
[1:02:43] you know we get complaints that there's
cold areas and hot areas in the building
[1:02:46] that's a good reason why um you know we
could replace all the rooftop units and
[1:02:51] replace all of that and still not going
to function properly without replacing
[1:02:55] the these other units. Um and then you
know original estimates did not
[1:03:00] anticipate you know the extent of the
structural repairs that need to be made.
[1:03:04] Um the thought was most of them you know
the stuff we were seeing was cosmetic
[1:03:07] and when we dug deeper into that that
that's not true. We've got some
[1:03:11] settlement issues going.
So with that, staff is requesting uh the
[1:03:16] first ring of ordinance authorizing the
mayor into agreement with Johnson
[1:03:19] Controls for 2,338,131.
[1:03:24] Council have any questions?
[1:03:28] » Yes, sir.
>> And the structural, you know,
[1:03:31] structural, my hackles go up on that.
The [snorts] the bid would include the
[1:03:35] actual repair of that or just
identifying what that issue is? No, it's
[1:03:39] » actual repair of the structural issue.
Okay, thank you.
[1:03:41] » Yep.
>> Is this the work we were contractually
[1:03:44] obligated with health to do or is it
that a little more?
[1:03:48] » So, so it's the work we were contracted.
Yes, we have to do it. Just the price
[1:03:52] tags coming in a little higher than we
anticipated.
[1:03:55] As a matter of fact, the originally we
had some some lighting upgrades in there
[1:03:59] that we are not going to do as part of
this project. [snorts]
[1:04:04] Darren, would you go back to your
schedule,
[1:04:07] » please? [snorts]
[1:04:12] » So, I'm just trying to
that [snorts] audit and design on there.
[1:04:17] Is that already that's what we're
looking at right now?
[1:04:19] » Yep.
>> So, that's where we're at. Okay.
[1:04:22] » Thank you,
>> Council Andrew. I was getting to you,
[1:04:25] but yes, you had a floor, sir. Sorry.
>> No, no, no. That's it's relevant. I My
[1:04:29] question is connected with this. I mean,
I think it depends obviously what
[1:04:32] happens with the natiatorum redesign,
but um what kind of thought has been
[1:04:37] given to coordinating that that work
with this work? Um would this need to be
[1:04:43] completed before we could do the other
work or do we just have to wait and see
[1:04:46] until that contract is figured out?
>> There's this work will be completed
[1:04:52] before we start any of the work on the
niatorum. We won't be far enough along
[1:04:56] on that project to to be started when
this one completes. Okay,
[1:05:02] » Darren, is it fair to say again this
work is critical for the operation of
[1:05:07] the building as it currently is
configured,
[1:05:09] » right? And I will say this does not
address any of the, you know, pool pack
[1:05:13] issues, you know, on the natitorium
side, you know, this is, you know,
[1:05:17] outside of some roof repairs, this is
100%, you know, dry side.
[1:05:22] » Just a follow-up question. So, with um
what seems to be basically a complete
[1:05:27] replacement of the HVAC system, would do
you anticipate that because we're
[1:05:31] upgrading this 25 years later that we'd
also see some efficiency gains and cost
[1:05:36] savings as a result of modern more
modern equipment?
[1:05:39] » Nope.
>> I'm going to phone a friend.
[1:05:42] » Oh, okay. [laughter]
>> So, so we do have representative from
[1:05:48] Johnson Controls here tonight. He can
answer that question better than me.
[1:05:52] Good evening, Jason Myers with Johnson
Controls. Um, thanks for your time. We
[1:05:55] do anticipate some efficiency gains,
not
[1:06:01] a substantial amount with some of the
mechanical systems. Um, generally in
[1:06:05] something like this, the lighting would
probably leave put it have a heavier
[1:06:08] kind of ROI as far as efficiencies. Um,
but certainly there will be some nominal
[1:06:14] pickup with with the new units. um
better control, ability to manage um
[1:06:20] scheduling and things like that. So
there there will be some efficiency
[1:06:23] pickups.
>> Is that just because this is such a
[1:06:25] challenging structure to regulate?
[1:06:30] » I I mean I'm just curious because I mean
I'm not this isn't a a questioning. I'm
[1:06:34] just I I don't know how these things
work and I would think that after all
[1:06:37] these years that things would get
easier, but is it just because the
[1:06:40] nature of the building is what it is
that it's hard to realize those
[1:06:43] efficiencies? No, it's there is
certainly going to be, but
[1:06:49] equipment like an air handler, a boiler,
and things like that, like a payback on
[1:06:54] a boiler is generally 40 plus years um
you know, or somewhere in that range,
[1:06:58] right? It's a pretty long payback um
just because of the the use versus the
[1:07:02] the efficiency gains. Air handlers are a
longer payback as well versus a LED
[1:07:07] light bulb is, you know,
>> 10 years or less generally for something
[1:07:11] like that. So just because they're large
high energy using systems um there will
[1:07:16] be there will be pickup that you'll
you'll realize on the utility side um
[1:07:21] nothing substantial worth like
monitoring measuring
[1:07:24] » um anything like that.
>> Okay. So
[1:07:26] » just thought I'd
>> Yeah. Yeah. No good questions.
[1:07:28] » Yep.
[1:07:33] » Yes ma'am.
>> Hate to ask this again but Darren, do
[1:07:36] you mind sending us your presentation
after tonight's meeting so we can see
[1:07:39] what you put up there?
>> No problem. Thank you.
[1:07:43] » Yes, sir.
>> So, to kind of Andrew's point, he kind
[1:07:47] of mentioned the Prop S side. What is
the repayment source plan for this loan
[1:07:52] that we assume to have? I know Prop S is
coming in. I know that this is has
[1:07:57] triggered or was going to trigger Phelps
Health uh paying essentially lease
[1:08:02] payment. I I I don't know if we had a
chance to follow up on whether that has
[1:08:06] already been triggered or not. Um, but
basically how will we plan to repay
[1:08:10] this? Is that the prop S that's going to
be paying this loan back or how's that
[1:08:14] going to be done?
>> I'll let Keith take that one.
[1:08:17] » So the capital improvements again. So if
council approves the $2.3 million
[1:08:22] contract, what we are anticipating doing
is covering that expense as an interfund
[1:08:28] loan between city funds. The intent
being that then being repaid through um
[1:08:35] again with the reimagining of the
Nadiatorum space, we're anticipating
[1:08:40] doing a certificate of participation or
some type of financing for those
[1:08:44] improvements. At that time, this expense
would be rolled into that. the inter
[1:08:49] fund loan would be paid off and it would
be rolled into the larger financing that
[1:08:54] we're anticipating occurring um after as
we've finalized the planning for the
[1:09:00] natorium
the
[1:09:04] uh lease agreement with Phelps Health
again we're verifying the language but
[1:09:09] my recollection was that the um trigger
date for the repayment was not tied to
[1:09:15] the actual timing of improvements but it
was delayed by 6 months
[1:09:19] from the lease. So, those payments, the
rent payments should have started. We're
[1:09:24] confirming that um that those have
started.
[1:09:27] » Okay.
[1:09:31] » Does that answer your question?
>> I think so. Um the the the the interfund
[1:09:35] loan thing I I always need to make sure
I get my mind wrapped around that
[1:09:38] correctly. So,
this loan, will this be an inter fund
[1:09:44] loan or we going to be outsourcing this
loan?
[1:09:47] » All right. And staff's recommendation is
to handle this as an interfund loan. We
[1:09:51] do have a fund that has the ability to
do so. And again, we'd rather
[1:09:58] pay interest internally versus paying it
externally.
[1:10:04] » Okay. And then when the then when the
natorium occurs, you're saying you're
[1:10:07] planning on rolling those together and
continuing paying those off. Correct.
[1:10:10] one larger
>> we would issue one larger financing for
[1:10:14] these improvements as well as the
natiatorum that pays off the inter fund
[1:10:18] loan making that fund whole and then the
rent payment from Phelps Health combined
[1:10:24] with revenue to be received through
Proposition S is what will serve as the
[1:10:28] debt service payment moving forward.
>> So ultimate Prop S is probably the
[1:10:32] largest funding source to repay this and
any future nitorium work being done.
[1:10:38] » Correct. Okay,
thank you.
[1:10:44] » All of the presentations are showing up
online. They're just not showing up in
[1:10:48] the horsesher so everything they can
watch everything that was done and all
[1:10:52] the presentations are present on the
YouTube channel.
[1:10:55] » Okay, thank you council.
>> We still need to get them to the council
[1:10:58] though.
>> Thank you for that information. Yes.
[1:11:01] Yes. All right.
Questions, comments, council.
[1:11:07] Questions, comment, councel.
Can we have a first reading from my city
[1:11:11] attorney? Bill number 2026-9,
an ordinance authorizing the mayor to
[1:11:16] execute a certain agreement between the
city of Raleigh, Missouri, and Johnson
[1:11:20] Controls, Inc.
>> Next, we'll be hearing from public work
[1:11:24] director, Mr. Darren Prior, and first
reading for bill number 202620.
[1:11:29] So staffer is proposing approval and
agreement with up city uh for deployment
[1:11:33] of smart parking sensors and wayfinding
app for the downtown area. Uh council
[1:11:38] received a presentation from up city a
while back about this project. Uh so
[1:11:43] we've been working with up city on a
pilot project for over a year now. Um
[1:11:48] that project seems is going very well.
Um so again this this project if you
[1:11:52] know do full implementation
um would cover Pine Street from 6 to 12
[1:11:58] all the on street parking and the seven
parking lots in the downtown area the
[1:12:01] city manages. U so staff is proposing to
do a three-year agreement with Dub City
[1:12:06] because that gives us pretty good
discount on the per year cost. Um it
[1:12:10] would be $66,88
per year.
[1:12:15] So staff is [clears throat] recommending
the first reading of ordinance to
[1:12:18] authorize the mayor agreement with up
city for the three years for $200,424.
[1:12:24] Is there any questions?
>> Oh,
[1:12:28] » let's start over here. Yes, ma'am.
>> Mr. Mayor, do you mind if I I have a few
[1:12:32] backto-back questions. Is that okay?
>> What's that again?
[1:12:34] » I I have a few backtoback questions. Is
that okay?
[1:12:37] » That'll be fine.
>> Okay.
[1:12:38] » Darren, my first Oh, I guess I should
ask, is there an upity representative
[1:12:41] here tonight?
>> There is not.
[1:12:43] » Okay. Uh so my first question is UpCity
repeatedly says that their sensors
[1:12:48] simply do not collect personal data. Um
but in 2026 Dublin, Ohio des or sorry
[1:12:54] Dublin, Ohio described its Up City
installation as quote using camera and
[1:12:58] microphone sensors that count vehicles
by type and direction for parking. End
[1:13:03] quote. You're proposing 70 Up units and
those UpCity units you're proposing um
[1:13:09] I'm questioning are they camerabased
sensors? Do they contain microphones?
[1:13:13] » They do. And so I think if you remember
from the presentation, you know, they're
[1:13:18] cameras, but the they are very very low
resolution cameras. So you you know the
[1:13:23] resolution is not good enough to read
license plates or I mean I mean it
[1:13:27] doesn't even know the color of the car.
It just knows there's a car in a space
[1:13:31] or not.
>> Sure. Are those raw images or audio
[1:13:33] recordings ever stored even temporarily?
>> Temporarily on device.
[1:13:37] » On the device. Okay. So, I guess a
follow-up question to that I have is the
[1:13:41] UpCity claim that they protect privacy
relies on our trust rather than I guess
[1:13:46] open verification. I feel like a third
party code audit might be beneficial.
[1:13:51] Basically, the vendor would submit their
firmware to an independent cyber
[1:13:56] security and privacy auditor just to
make sure that the raw images are
[1:13:59] instantly destroyed. Is this something
that you've considered?
[1:14:02] » I have not. I wouldn't. Who would you
have a suggestion who we would work with
[1:14:06] on that?
>> I don't. I was curious if you had looked
[1:14:08] into it.
>> No, I have not.
[1:14:10] » Okay. Um, my next question, uh, a little
bit of background. So, Michelle Lim, who
[1:14:16] is an UpCity representative, has already
stated on their website that quote, "Upy
[1:14:21] isn't a dashboard. It optimizes truth or
sorry, it optimizes traffic flow and
[1:14:26] parking usage. This isn't a promise for
the future. It's happening right now.
[1:14:30] The city of Raleigh, Missouri, is
currently using Upsity to optimize their
[1:14:34] parking operations and drive their
20-year downtown revitalization
[1:14:38] uh plan. Uh, additionally, Carlos Jiren
Up, another Upy employee, uh, posted to
[1:14:44] his social media that Rale, Missouri
runs on Up and the city has chosen our
[1:14:48] solution. That was posted months ago
before uh the Up City presentation was
[1:14:53] given to us. I guess that was what, July
of earlier this year. Um the post
[1:14:58] basically says that the sensors are
already tracking uh full lots and by and
[1:15:04] violations using its space usage. So I'm
not accusing anyone of anything but up
[1:15:10] city has publicly represented that the
city has already been using the system
[1:15:13] and you had mentioned the uh that we've
been working with the iOS for over a
[1:15:18] year. The staff report says that we've
been working with UpCity I guess for you
[1:15:21] know on that pilot for over a year but
what exactly was authorized during that
[1:15:26] pilot and when was it authorized?
>> I roughly a year ago I don't recall the
[1:15:31] the exact date but uh so we they are
monitoring two blocks of pine so uh 6 to
[1:15:37] 8 and one parking lot the lot across
from uh we call the RMU lot straight
[1:15:43] across from RMU.
>> Okay. Um, how much has the city paid up
[1:15:49] city to date and from what account?
>> I would have to bring that back at the
[1:15:54] next I don't remember the numbers off
the top of my head.
[1:15:56] » You don't know how much it cost for the
pilot?
[1:15:58] » I don't recall. I don't I'd hate to say
a number and be wrong.
[1:16:00] » Okay. Okay. Um,
>> so I mean since I mean under $10,000.
[1:16:08] » Okay.
>> And I think Darren that would have come
[1:16:10] out of street fund.
>> It would have been
[1:16:12] » street fund budget. Okay. Um yes I mean
70 sensors times it was 993 if my math
[1:16:19] is correct that's 69 510 plus the way
finding software that was mentioned uh
[1:16:24] which was 14. Uh so now we're looking at
83510 a year over the course of three
[1:16:29] years and that's including the discount
we're looking at around 66 808 a year.
[1:16:34] That's almost $1,000 a year per sensor.
I guess my question is what what is our
[1:16:40] measurable like return on investment?
You know, I think we had mentioned like
[1:16:44] the parking spaces last time that the up
city representative was here. How are
[1:16:47] you going to measure that?
>> So, I would measure it by utilization
[1:16:52] and then also just, you know, you know,
hearing from business owners. I mean,
[1:16:56] that's what I hear from business owners
all the time is there's nowhere to park
[1:16:59] on Pine Street.
>> So, utilization of the spots would be
[1:17:02] okay. Was that 83510 independently
established as the market price or was
[1:17:07] that simply Up's list price?
>> That was up's price.
[1:17:11] » Okay.
Um, let's see here.
[1:17:16] I I just want to know that the pilot
actually delivered, you know, enough
[1:17:20] value to justify that $200,000
commitment. Um, so, you know, you said
[1:17:26] you didn't you weren't sure about the
cost of the pilot. Can you answer was it
[1:17:30] a purchase? Was it a professional
services agreement or something else?
[1:17:33] » It was done via purchase order.
>> Where can I find that agreement in the
[1:17:37] public record?
>> We can get it to you.
[1:17:40] » Yeah. So Darren, correct me if I'm
again. So this is approximately a year
[1:17:44] ago. We entered into the project. It
would have been done as a professional
[1:17:48] services agreement.
>> You referenced under $10,000, which
[1:17:53] basically is where would have received
administrative approval. It wouldn't
[1:17:57] have had to go to governing body. So
under purchasing guidelines, again,
[1:18:02] council would have appropriated the
funds for the pilot project and then
[1:18:06] staff would have administrated it, moved
it forward.
[1:18:09] » Okay. This was probably like the last
council.
[1:18:11] » This Yeah, it would have been Yes.
previously.
[1:18:14] » Okay. Um, do you know the five and 10
year complete cost?
[1:18:20] » I do not.
>> Okay.
[1:18:23] » I know what the three-year cost is.
>> The three-year cost because that was the
[1:18:26] one that we had the discount on.
Correct. Correct.
[1:18:30] » Um, but we're still looking at over
$200,000. $250,000, I'm sorry.
[1:18:35] » No, $200,424
years.
[1:18:40] Okay.
>> What alternatives did staff formally, I
[1:18:43] guess, evaluate before recommending this
investment? Was there any like other
[1:18:47] ones other than Up City you were looking
at?
[1:18:49] » I looked at Park Mobile. I There was a
couple other ones I looked at. So So all
[1:18:54] of them I looked at, none of them had
the wayfinding app that would tell you
[1:18:58] is that spot actually available.
>> Sure. Um, I guess going off of that, so
[1:19:03] the last time that we talked about that
parking situation and like the available
[1:19:07] spots and whatnot, concerns were
expressed over the usability and the
[1:19:11] configuration of the spaces. I think
somebody had mentioned, you know, maybe
[1:19:14] we do the diagonal spaces instead of the
parallel parking, etc. So, I guess my
[1:19:18] question comes, you know, in terms of
priority, is there a reason why we're
[1:19:22] making a technology investment before
trying out the physical ones that we
[1:19:25] could do for a lot cheaper?
>> Uh, the physical ones would not be a lot
[1:19:28] cheaper. So, our cheapest option is the
$200,000 investment for the cameras.
[1:19:34] » Yes. I mean, any of the physical options
you just mentioned are million plus. I
[1:19:39] mean, they're not cheap.
>> Okay. I'm going to let my other council
[1:19:44] members have asking questions.
>> I'd like to make a recommendation too
[1:19:46] for council. If you want to know
specific numbers of something, maybe
[1:19:50] about a year ago for for them when
they're getting up and speaking, if you
[1:19:54] submit that to them ahead of time, they
can answer those questions and be able
[1:19:58] to come here and answer it specifically.
But if you ask them that on the spot,
[1:20:02] they're probably I [clears throat]
wouldn't remember exactly that number
[1:20:05] for a year ago. So,
>> and I would encourage our staff again,
[1:20:09] you know, while we always can. Yeah, I
believe it was this amount. We'd rather
[1:20:13] be accurate. So, I'm going to encourage
again. Let's not speculate. I think it's
[1:20:17] this amount. If you get us the questions
ahead of time, we can definitely get the
[1:20:21] information.
>> And even if you come up with the
[1:20:23] question on the fly, just allow them,
you know,
[1:20:26] » this is the first reading, so allow them
the second reading to come back and get
[1:20:30] back those answers to you. So it can be
specific exactly what you're asking.
[1:20:34] » Sure. Yeah. No, and I apologize. I
didn't get that. But the only the only
[1:20:38] number that I asked about more than a
year ago was what we paid for the pilot.
[1:20:41] in terms of what we're paying for the
future. I feel like that should be
[1:20:45] » available
>> absolutely
[1:20:47] » today. Okay,
>> perfect.
[1:20:50] » Are there Yes, you have a floor.
>> I uh I had some comments from
[1:20:54] constituents here that I'd like to
share.
[1:20:57] » Okay.
>> Um one was a concern about the
[1:21:01] possibility that we would be encouraging
distracted driving through the use of
[1:21:04] the wayfinding app. Um and you know
essentially the I think the idea would
[1:21:09] be that in in using this to find parking
that we would be
[1:21:14] I mean yes encouraging drivers to be
looking at the potentially looking at
[1:21:18] their phone rather than looking at the
road. So that was one concern. Um the
[1:21:24] second was kind of a question and and I
think you partly addressed this or did
[1:21:28] you would would you like to respond?
>> I didn't know you.
[1:21:31] » Okay. Sorry. Um the other was uh kind of
addressed in the at the tail end of that
[1:21:35] previous discussion about cheaper
options or what might be perceived as
[1:21:38] cheaper options. And this particular
question was well why not try signage
[1:21:42] first um instead of moving moving to
this and and maybe maybe you've already
[1:21:48] done those calculations and and have
some sense of whether signage
[1:21:53] would be cheaper or why not go with
signage first and go with the app first.
[1:21:58] Um, and then finally, and I think that
this is something that speaks to the
[1:22:01] moment that we're in now. Um, but there
this this uh correspondent put it um
[1:22:07] that this is not a great time for quote
putting up cameras on black poles. Um,
[1:22:13] and I know that we had the Up City
presentation back in July, and I do
[1:22:18] remember I I've got extensive notes here
about, you know, that the that they were
[1:22:21] very um insistent that
basically you couldn't do with Up say
[1:22:28] like a flock system, right? They could
not be used. There was no personal
[1:22:32] identifying information. And it was
designed to basically be a kind of
[1:22:35] advanced sensor to see what kind of
vehicle was in a spot rather than which
[1:22:40] specific vehicle, let alone who could
drive it. But it does occur to me that
[1:22:45] the atmosphere is a little bit more
charged than it was maybe even back in
[1:22:49] July when it comes to something like
this. And I do wonder
[1:22:52] I don't know I do wonder how how people
feel about this um given the overall
[1:22:58] climate around cameras on black poles.
So that last one was on observation and
[1:23:04] sharing a concern. But I think maybe the
there's a specific question in here that
[1:23:09] you might be able to answer or not on
the signage question and whether or not
[1:23:13] that's a you know should we do that
first or why not do that first?
[1:23:17] » I mean we're planning on doing that in
conjunction. We do think we better need
[1:23:21] better signage.
you know, you know, again, you know,
[1:23:25] that was one of the things that brought
up in the, you know, comprehensive plan
[1:23:28] was, you know, parking utilization was
low. Um, my, you know, I think signage
[1:23:35] is not going to help Pine Street. I
mean, if just be honest with you, uh, it
[1:23:39] might help with some of the off-
streetet parking in the parking lots.
[1:23:42] Um, but I go back to this is the only
solution I've found where you can take
[1:23:47] your app, pull it up and say, I need a
parking space and it will verify yes,
[1:23:51] there is a space available. Not we think
there's a space available or, you know,
[1:23:56] most of them are using a, you know,
maybe a counting system, okay, where
[1:24:00] there's 100 spots in this lot and we
know there's 100 cars went in and and
[1:24:03] paid. Well, you know, if there's a car
goes in and doesn't pay and takes up a
[1:24:08] spot, it doesn't know that. So, like I
said, that it was a very unique solution
[1:24:12] that that I've not found another one in
the marketplace.
[1:24:15] » Okay. I just as a followup, I'm just
curious um why uh you think in your
[1:24:21] experience because I know that you
you've studied this
[1:24:24] » uh and I appreciate the the initiative
that that your department had in in
[1:24:27] making that study. U but why why do you
think that Pine Street is resistant to
[1:24:32] being helped by signs? Is it just
because there's parking or there isn't?
[1:24:36] And you know, people know where Pine
Street is, so they don't need to be told
[1:24:38] where Pine Street is and it's just a
question of whether there are spots open
[1:24:42] or what is it?
>> So, I think we got a couple things on
[1:24:46] Pine Street. Like I said, I mean, if
you're going to a business on Pine
[1:24:49] Street, you're looking for a parking
spot on Pine Street. I think the issue
[1:24:53] you run into sometimes is, you know,
you'll want to go to a a business in the
[1:24:57] Ninth Street block and you won't look
for parking until you get to the Ninth
[1:25:01] Street block and it's full. So, I think
that's where, you know, the app would
[1:25:04] definitely help there because, you know,
before you if you tell it you want to go
[1:25:08] to Red Door Gifts, it's going to find
you the closest spot it can to Red Door
[1:25:11] Gifts and and route you turn by turn to
that spot. And in the meantime, if
[1:25:16] someone takes that spot, it will route
you to the next closest spot.
[1:25:20] » Excellent. Yes, Keith.
>> So, Darren, if I could maybe ask you to
[1:25:25] step back and kind of frame what
initiated our efforts with focusing on
[1:25:30] this. It's my understanding and part of
you know one of the things we hear
[1:25:35] consistently from the businesses in the
downtown is the the parking challenge
[1:25:41] which staff has done their own you know
analysis and you know what we find is
[1:25:47] there is adequate parking in the
downtown. It's a perceptional issue and
[1:25:52] that's ultimately what initiated us to
start the p the pilot program efforts of
[1:25:59] how do we route people to where the
parking is available. Is that a fair
[1:26:04] view of it?
>> And I would say this also is going to
[1:26:06] give real time you know information. So
you know when you know a business owner
[1:26:11] says there's you know there's no parking
on Pine Street. I mean it's real time.
[1:26:14] we can immediately pull up the dashboard
and look and go, "No, there's, you know,
[1:26:18] 15 spots available on Pine Street.
There's eight spots available in this
[1:26:21] parking lot." I mean, you know, so we'll
have, you know, real data that, you
[1:26:25] know, we can share with with our
constituents. Also
[1:26:29] » in terms of the navigating, you know,
the app for navigating um people to the
[1:26:35] parking space is that I guess my
recollection was the the app basically
[1:26:41] functions very similar to any map app
that most people use to
[1:26:48] » Google Maps or Apple Maps. I mean, if
you've got, you know, the ability for
[1:26:52] that, you know, to sync with your your
car, you know, it's going to talk to the
[1:26:56] speakers and give you turn byturn
directions like any other, um, you know,
[1:27:00] directional app would.
[1:27:06] » Yes, sir.
>> Um, as [snorts] far as that the 66,000,
[1:27:12] » does that include the upkeep? all to say
on everything, hardware, software, if
[1:27:17] something like does it belong to us? If
something breaks, we have to pay to have
[1:27:20] a new camera put in or does that include
everything if anything goes wrong?
[1:27:24] » Yeah, that includes anything if anything
goes wrong. So, you know, in the end,
[1:27:28] we're essentially leasing this
equipment. They still own it.
[1:27:30] » So, um yeah, if it breaks, you know,
that's them, you know, providing parts
[1:27:35] to fix it or, you know, typically it's I
mean, we had one that quit working, they
[1:27:39] send us a new unit, and we shipped one
back. And were we pleased with the
[1:27:43] timeline of repair of them coming to to
change that out?
[1:27:46] » Yeah. I mean, they overnighted it. It
was here the next day.
[1:27:49] » Okay. Um my other question, if you don't
mind, um so it's a three-year agreement.
[1:27:54] So all three years is about the $200,000
>> if we choose [snorts] to cancel at that
[1:27:59] point. So even if we view this as kind
of an extension of the trial period, you
[1:28:03] know, do we find less complaints of
people like this is actually real world
[1:28:06] helping the parking perception downtown
if we cancel out after that three-year
[1:28:10] mark?
>> Is it are we free and clear?
[1:28:13] » We are free and clear after three years.
>> There's no getting out of the contract
[1:28:17] sort of thing after the three years.
>> No, we are sign, you know, the proposal
[1:28:20] is a three-year contract that locks
locks our price in but does not commit
[1:28:24] us for anything past the three years. So
if we have a terrible experience or
[1:28:27] there's lots of issues, we that that's
what our commitment is.
[1:28:30] » Yes.
>> Thank you.
[1:28:33] » Y
>> um you were saying perceptual.
[1:28:38] » I drive Pine Street quite a bit. U
[snorts] it's not as perceptual as you
[1:28:43] think. The businesses are
hard to get to.
[1:28:49] Uh you'll get uh you've got uh like
Saltwater and the ice cream shop right
[1:28:53] next to each other. I believe that's the
name of the place. Um, and you now have
[1:28:58] a two and a half, three block strip that
is locked down by those two businesses.
[1:29:04] So, anything you want to go to in that
thing is you got to go,
[1:29:10] you know, all the way down to the
opposite end of the block on either
[1:29:13] direction. I don't see that as
perceptual.
[1:29:18] That is who wants to get out in 100
degree heat and walk two blocks to a
[1:29:23] restaurant.
>> I I think that's that that's for all
[1:29:27] downtowns though, right?
>> Like every downtown you go to, you're
[1:29:31] going to have to walk somewhere.
>> No,
[1:29:33] » if the expectation is you're going to
walk less than a block to every business
[1:29:37] on Pine Street, we we will not meet that
expectation.
[1:29:41] Uh, and as I've been down there, I've
actually went to go to, like I said, you
[1:29:46] know, to these businesses, and with my
uh, health the way it is, I can't walk
[1:29:52] that far. And I'll end up going out of
town rather than go to the local
[1:29:57] businesses because there is no
fe, you know, we're talking two, three
[1:30:02] blocks walk to where I wanted to go for
a twominute, you know, run in for what I
[1:30:09] needed.
Uh so I don't see you know that as
[1:30:14] perceptual that is a reality of parking
on Pine Street.
[1:30:18] » I would agree with that reality 100%. Uh
the point I was trying to make is you
[1:30:23] know within three blocks of each
business there will be there's always
[1:30:27] going to be adequate parking.
>> Okay. Excellent. Yeah. Now I'll come
[1:30:30] back over here. Yes ma'am.
>> I want to go back to Up City for a
[1:30:33] second. So my question kind of goes off
of uh Councilwoman Turbins. we terminate
[1:30:38] the contract after x amount of years. Do
we return all historical data or like
[1:30:44] can we take it to like another vendor or
how does that work?
[1:30:49] » So
I guess I need a little help with the
[1:30:52] question. So you know when we terminate
after 3 years you know all the hardware
[1:30:56] that's theirs would be you know sent
back to them
[1:30:59] » and you know any data that we have
collected is ours at that point. So um
[1:31:06] the historical data yes so you know like
right now I can go in the dashboard and
[1:31:10] download all the historical data for you
know occupancy for for the blocks we've
[1:31:15] been monitoring if that's what you're
asking.
[1:31:17] » So it would be possible to get that to
like another one should we not choose to
[1:31:21] go with upstate. Okay. And then my
second question is have you been in
[1:31:23] touch I guess with other cities or I
guess other city officials from other
[1:31:27] cities who have already utilized up city
>> the Dublin
[1:31:33] » Ohio or I don't there's like five or six
more you know on the website that are
[1:31:36] near us but I just was curious if you've
talked to them and how their experience
[1:31:39] was.
>> Their experience has been good when I
[1:31:42] talked to them. So I would say Dublin's
about the only one that's had it for a
[1:31:48] while. I'd say the other ones that
you're looking at are very similar to
[1:31:51] RA, either pilot or just starting.
>> Okay.
[1:31:57] » Okay.
>> Yes, ma'am.
[1:31:59] » Real quick, um, so what's the plan to
try to get users to try to get people to
[1:32:05] use the app um should we decide to go
with it? Um, is there like a little bit
[1:32:10] of marketing that's going to happen or
anything that's included in that?
[1:32:14] » So, that would be, you know,
coordination with us and up is that. So,
[1:32:17] Up City will help us with that where
they can. I mean, then it's of course
[1:32:21] city website, you know, you know, try to
get the newspaper to do an article on
[1:32:25] it, you know, um go to all the downtown
businesses and, you know, hang some
[1:32:29] flyers up. I mean, anything we can do to
get the word out.
[1:32:31] » I would expect RDBA, again, the intent
would be to promote it as widely as we
[1:32:36] could.
>> Yeah, because with an investment like
[1:32:38] that, we definitely want to get as many
users as possible so we can get
[1:32:42] » Agreed.
>> Some good data.
[1:32:44] » You can download the app right now and
play around with it.
[1:32:48] All right. So, yeah. Um,
>> I have one more question.
[1:32:50] » Yes, sir. I'll come back to you, sir.
>> I missed you.
[1:32:53] » That's okay.
>> I apologize.
[1:32:54] » It's fine.
>> Oh, it's my turn. Okay. Um, since this
[1:32:58] has been an ongoing pilot, do you is
there some kind of report or something
[1:33:03] that you'd be able to share with the
council before the second reading that
[1:33:06] we would be able to see how that pilot
has been going so that we understand
[1:33:10] better.
>> This isn't just a thought experiment. I
[1:33:13] mean, there's actual, you know, results.
So, what would you like that report to
[1:33:17] to show?
>> I didn't know if they had given you one.
[1:33:21] » I mean, so the dashboard, I mean, it's I
can create custom reports for for
[1:33:26] anything that you'd want. I just need to
know what you want in that report.
[1:33:30] » I wouldn't No, I haven't seen the
dashboard.
[1:33:33] » Could you generate a report showing
utilization of the parking in the pilot
[1:33:38] areas over the last 30 days?
>> Sure. would have broken by day, by time
[1:33:44] of day, all all the Well, I I'll supply
something.
[1:33:47] » I I'd be grateful. Thank you.
>> Thank you. And I I Yes, you have.
[1:33:51] » Yes. Yes, sir.
>> Um, is the contract for low resolution
[1:33:55] cameras?
>> Yes.
[1:33:56] » So, if at any time they decide to
upgrade to like facial recognition or
[1:34:02] high resolution cameras, do they have to
bring that back to us before they
[1:34:07] install those cameras?
>> Yes. I mean, we Hey,
[1:34:12] » so real quick. So, so the city does the
install.
[1:34:15] » So, they provide the hardware, we do the
install. So, yeah, they were changing
[1:34:19] their technology. We would know before
we put it up.
[1:34:22] » And they would they contractually they
have to tell us that they are now
[1:34:25] installing high resolution.
>> Yes.
[1:34:28] » And it would void the contract if that's
what they went with.
[1:34:30] » We just wouldn't put them up. Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:34:34] » Whatever you did,
>> good job. We all have
[1:34:38] » I don't know what magic you
>> the computer went to sleep and I woke it
[1:34:42] back up. So,
>> all right. Yes, ma'am.
[1:34:45] » I think the up city guy maybe touched on
this. Is it currently in use or planned
[1:34:49] to be used quite a bit from the city
side to like deploy
[1:34:56] an officer to ticket people past their
point of stay. So again, this would this
[1:35:04] technology would not be capable of
writing a ticket because it's not
[1:35:08] reading license plates. It's not getting
a description of a car. You know, it
[1:35:12] doesn't know that it's a green, you
know, car or anything. So, all it's
[1:35:16] going to do is um I can run reports
called overstays that will show the
[1:35:21] areas that in times that, you know, that
that we're seeing a lot of people
[1:35:26] overstaying, you know, the parking. So,
it would be allow them for them to
[1:35:30] target enforcement. It still be the, you
know, traditional, you know, mark the
[1:35:33] tire and then make a circle and come
back. Uh, you know, it's not going to
[1:35:36] replace that. It's just going to help
them target the areas to enforce.
[1:35:39] » Is it already being used that way a
little bit on those couple blocks of
[1:35:43] pine?
>> It is not. I've not shared the data with
[1:35:45] with police.
>> Well, and part of it reason is those two
[1:35:49] blocks of pine aren't the utilization is
pretty low. So, it wouldn't be like
[1:35:55] someone is monitoring the data in real
time and sending out an officer because
[1:36:01] there's three in this lot that are
passed. It would be trending lots that
[1:36:05] tend to see a lot of overstays and maybe
monitor those a little more frequently.
[1:36:10] I mean, is that the intent?
>> That's the intent. That's how we'd use
[1:36:13] that data. Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:36:15] » Excellent question. Any other questions?
>> Ameilia.
[1:36:19] » Okay.
>> Yeah. My mine kind of goes I guess a
[1:36:23] little bit off of that. So
I guess I don't know. It seems kind of
[1:36:27] like I I feel like a few citizens would
have to assume that it's almost kind of
[1:36:30] like a little bit of a money grab
because let's just say you know you park
[1:36:33] you use the app, you park there for 15
minutes. God forbid you're there for 16.
[1:36:37] Now we've already sent a message to RPO
to send somebody out.
[1:36:42] » It won't work like that. No.
>> How how would it work?
[1:36:45] » So I mean it like I said it's it's it's
staff running report. So, it's not like
[1:36:49] a an alert when someone has been there a
minute over. It's just us running
[1:36:53] reports saying there's overstays
typically happen in this lot in these
[1:36:58] five or six spots during these hours of
the day so that you know um police staff
[1:37:04] would know, hey, I need to kind of
monitor this lot a little closer during
[1:37:07] those hours of day. It is still marking
tires and coming back in the, you know,
[1:37:12] 15 minutes or hour depending on what the
time is. and that police officer
[1:37:16] witnessing that car being there for that
amount of time.
[1:37:19] » Well, like you said, as of right now,
it's not even looking at that on Pine
[1:37:22] Street with this pilot. Correct.
>> No, like I said, I I can I run a report
[1:37:26] that shows we're overstays happen? Yes.
But I I mean, I ran one six months ago
[1:37:31] just to see if I could do it, but no,
we're not running those reports every
[1:37:34] day.
>> Yeah. I mean, my concern is not really
[1:37:36] on on on the report. It's more that Up
City has already made the claim that
[1:37:40] we've chosen them to to do this. And so
I'm hearing two different things in
[1:37:45] terms of whether or not we've already
agreed to use Up City or I mean does
[1:37:49] that I I guess maybe that may be a
question for Keith more like is that
[1:37:53] that's a little bit concerning know that
Up City has already said we've chosen to
[1:37:58] go with them and that we are actively
using them for parking but then Darren's
[1:38:02] telling us that no we haven't been you
know ticking based off of Upy. We
[1:38:06] haven't been you know collecting that
data. I don't I don't know what to what
[1:38:10] to believe. I mean, we will not be using
up city to write tickets, okay,
[1:38:14] » ever. That's not the intent with this
project. Now, is that a selling point to
[1:38:20] some other cities? Maybe, but but not to
all. No, that is not our intent.
[1:38:26] » And that's where I'm not familiar with
what Up City has expressed again in
[1:38:30] terms of our selecting them. Yeah, we've
selected them for a pilot.
[1:38:35] » Beyond that, that's it. But to Darren's
point, we're not using them, nor is the
[1:38:40] intent to use it for parking
enforcement. Parking enforcement through
[1:38:44] the police, no, would still be done
through the police department. It's a
[1:38:47] totally separate function than what we
would be looking for this app, the
[1:38:54] system to address.
>> Does that answer your question?
[1:38:57] » It does. So then can is it possible that
council can get I guess not just a
[1:39:01] report from the last 30 days but
whenever the pilot first began in terms
[1:39:05] of not only what the pilot found but how
much we've paid up city so far in terms
[1:39:10] of money
>> we can yeah we'll have that
[1:39:13] » report Stephanie's been sending me
numbers I was going to share them with
[1:39:16] council later
>> okay thank you the
[1:39:23] » other questions
[1:39:27] questions
>> [snorts]
[1:39:30] » All right. Well, thank you. Can we have
the first reading from my seat attorney?
[1:39:34] » Bill number 2026-20,
an ordinance authorizing the mayor to
[1:39:38] execute a certain agreement between the
city of Raleigh, Missouri and Up City.
[1:39:44] » Can I ask one question, Mayor?
>> Yes, sir.
[1:39:46] » So, for the next meeting, I'm making
sure I'm giving council what what
[1:39:49] they're wanting. You we talked about a
30-day report. But we also mentioned a
[1:39:54] since the beginning of the pilot report
um I can provide that it's going to be
[1:39:59] we're going to kill a lot of trees.
>> Can it be?
[1:40:04] » Yeah. Can we do a digital report there?
>> All right. Some gigabytes.
[1:40:08] » It's going to be a lot of pages.
>> Okay. No problem.
[1:40:13] » The need for data set.
>> Any other comments? Any other comments
[1:40:16] or points of clarity for Mr. Prior?
>> I guess could we get that before the
[1:40:20] vote on
probably get to tomorrow.
[1:40:23] » Our goal would be to have the
information from tonight's meeting that
[1:40:27] we could send out to council on Friday.
[1:40:33] » One one other thought, but would there
be a way for us in that report to also
[1:40:38] get uh a a an example of how how the
image looks that the camera gets.
[1:40:49] » So, I would have to get that from Updia.
I don't have access to to get images at
[1:40:54] all.
>> Okay.
[1:40:55] » I think you can see that too if you go
back to the
[1:40:57] » their presentation had a
>> Okay.
[1:41:00] » an example of of an image.
[1:41:05] » You going to say something else or
you're not?
[1:41:06] » I was going to So Darren, do you have
the ability you don't have the ability
[1:41:10] to pull images off of the camera system?
>> I do not.
[1:41:17] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, sir.
[1:41:20] All right. Next item we have up on
agenda is claims and fiscal transactions
[1:41:25] and we'll be hearing from public I mean
parks director Mr. Floyd Jennigan
[1:41:30] Jernigan.
I don't know why Mr. Good. Thank you.
[1:41:36] So our closed flume slide at Splat Zone
has been slowly deteriorating over the
[1:41:42] past year resulting in flaking chips and
some leaky seams. So staff did some work
[1:41:47] at the end of last season and again
beginning of this season uh to do some
[1:41:52] sealing but it's just to the point where
we need to do a complete resurface.
[1:41:57] Typically they recommend you do those
every 3 to 10 years. So we're right in
[1:42:01] that time frame as the last resurfacing
occurred in 2021.
[1:42:06] So our good news is out of our two
slides only one of them needs that work.
[1:42:11] So, we are recommending the low bid from
ARC of $13,980
[1:42:16] to do the work for the closed slide.
Questions
[1:42:21] » at that price, is that them coming down
here and doing it or we're just getting
[1:42:24] the material supply?
>> No, they're going to come down and do
[1:42:26] it.
>> Does it being that much lower scare you?
[1:42:30] » I'm sorry. What
>> does does their number being that much
[1:42:33] lower scare you as
>> No, because they worked on they were the
[1:42:36] ones that worked on this in 2021. So I
think one of the reasons why they're
[1:42:39] cheaper is they're very familiar with
our slides.
[1:42:42] » Gotcha.
>> So
[1:42:44] » good point.
>> Yes, smell.
[1:42:47] » Not particular to the slide issue, but
just these fiscal considerations. I just
[1:42:51] maybe I don't know how to interpret
these numbers, but they appropriated
[1:42:55] 591,000.
Is this the fiscal year ending? Yes.
[1:42:58] This fall. Um and the 143 is what's been
spent. So way under.
[1:43:04] » Yeah. So what the difference in that is
you have to keep in mind we did not do
[1:43:08] the turf field this year. So that was
budgeted. So the difference there is the
[1:43:12] reimburseable portion that we would get
versus the total expense. So this is an
[1:43:18] actually the difference between the two.
That's why that's that unspent portion.
[1:43:30] » Questions from council comments?
Questions from council comments.
[1:43:38] All right. Um, you don't need to read
this. Floor is open to a motion to award
[1:43:44] the bid.
>> I'll make that motion.
[1:43:46] » Bar will second.
>> Move the property second. Floor is open
[1:43:49] for discussion.
Hear no further discussion. We'll have a
[1:43:54] voice vote. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:43:57] » All oppose say nay. Pass unanimously. So
you still have the floor for a motion
[1:44:02] toward a bid to wade equipment for a
diesel mower.
[1:44:06] » Yeah, thank you for that.
>> So we utilize diesel mowers to do our
[1:44:12] work in the parks due to their longevity
and ability to withstand high usage
[1:44:16] during the season. So during the course
of that we typically try to u re re uh
[1:44:23] purchase a new mower at least one to two
per season about every seven years. Most
[1:44:28] of the time we get a lot longer than
that. This particular mower has quite a
[1:44:32] bit over the hours and uh so we blew a
motor. We weren't initially planning on
[1:44:38] spending that this year because we were
tight with the uh other expenses
[1:44:43] particularly relating to the turf field,
but we're kind of in that spot.
[1:44:47] Anticipating we might have to do that.
We haven't spent any money. So the
[1:44:51] difference will be made up um elsewhere
within those uh those park improvements.
[1:44:58] So, we are recommending yes to go with a
low bid from WDES equipment. Questions?
[1:45:03] » That's local WEDs equipment.
>> I'm sorry, what?
[1:45:05] » That's the WEDs equipment from this
area.
[1:45:07] » Yes, it is. Okay.
>> Says Burn.
[1:45:09] » Yeah, it says Burn Texas.
>> Oh,
[1:45:11] » that's just a carryover from the Ark.
Sorry.
[1:45:13] » Yeah, I thought you guys were like Yeah,
>> making a deal there.
[1:45:16] » Yeah, I did the two back to back. That's
>> good catch.
[1:45:21] » Delivery with the slide.
>> Great question. Thank you.
[1:45:24] » Yeah, we're getting a slide slide.
>> Further question from council down here.
[1:45:29] Further question from council over here.
>> All right, floors are open for a motion
[1:45:34] toward the bid.
>> Motion pass second.
[1:45:39] » Moved and properly second. Floor is open
for discussion.
[1:45:43] Hear no further discussion. We'll go to
a voice vote. All in favor say I.
[1:45:47] » All oppose say nay.
Navy ladies and gentlemen.
[1:45:52] » Thank you, sir.
[1:45:55] All right. Floor is now open for
citizens communications. Any citizen has
[1:46:00] three minutes to speak on anything that
that comes to that you would like to
[1:46:05] talk about. We ask you to provide your
name and um your address
[1:46:11] to Miss Lori when you come up and speak.
Hello.
[1:46:14] » Hi. I'm Debbie Castle. Uh 16800 State
Rudo. I'm outside of town. I was gone
[1:46:21] this summer. And I got wonderful text
messages that Prop S had passed and I
[1:46:26] want to thank you guys because I feel
like the city c every a lot of people
[1:46:30] worked to get this passed but the city
council was instrumental in it and I
[1:46:36] really really appreciate it. I've been
home for about a week and a half and I
[1:46:39] want you to know that it's not
statistically accurate, but I'm seeing
[1:46:44] more people in the pool now and I think
it's they have more confidence that it's
[1:46:50] going to stay and maybe the advertising
about how great it was, they decided,
[1:46:54] me, I'd like to try that out. But there
was a, you know, 21
[1:46:59] women exercising, bunch of them in the
shallow end. It was tight. [laughter]
[1:47:06] Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you
very much.
[1:47:08] » Thanks, Daddy.
[1:47:14] » Yes, sir.
>> Hi, my name is uh Morgan Bearden and I
[1:47:20] live uh in the county uh on Timberline
Drive.
[1:47:27] Like the speaker previously, I've spent
a good bit of the summer out of town. I
[1:47:32] was gone for six or seven weeks. And so
this is the first I've heard about uh
[1:47:37] the uh parking software
or or whatever we call it.
[1:47:44] And I I'm just cur I' I've heard of that
stuff before. My wife is from Chicago
[1:47:48] and occasionally when we go downtown
Chicago, I think someone in the car was
[1:47:52] using that sort of thing to find a place
to park, but it wasn't very satisfactory
[1:47:56] because there's no place to park down
there. Um, [laughter]
[1:48:00] I was just wondering how many other
cities the size of Rala are are using
[1:48:05] these things. I mean, it's it's
it almost seems like a joke that a town
[1:48:13] the size of Rala is, you know, spending
money to help find people a place to
[1:48:19] park. So, uh, and and
this perception of there not being any
[1:48:26] parking downtown. I go downtown a lot. I
go to the restaurants. I all the
[1:48:31] restaurants downtown I've patronized. I
go to the coffee shop, the fishing
[1:48:36] store,
uh the the library, the banks, and uh I
[1:48:43] never have a problem finding a reason
place to park. And I I I I believe you
[1:48:51] said that that there's this perception
that there's difficulty parking, but I
[1:48:58] got the impression that there's been
studies that say it's not true. Is I
[1:49:04] mean, is that what you were getting at a
little while ago?
[1:49:08] » For this part of it, they will not
answer. This is your time to speak, but
[1:49:11] they probably will address it and they
may have opportunity to address after,
[1:49:13] but they won't go back and forth for the
conversation with you.
[1:49:16] » Oh, okay. Well, then then then take my
question as a statement.
[1:49:21] » I thought I heard someone up here say
that the business owners complain
[1:49:28] there's no place to park. That's their
perception.
[1:49:32] But in fact, that is not reality. If
that statement is true, why in the world
[1:49:38] would we need the software? And I'll
leave you with one thing. Uh uh this
[1:49:43] reminds me. I had an urban uh geography
professor who said one of the big
[1:49:49] problems with Americans in the urban
area is they spent too much time
[1:49:54] watching cowboy movies. They think they
should just be able to ride right up
[1:50:00] directly in front of the swinging doors
of the saloon, hitch it up and walk in.
[1:50:05] [snorts]
And downtown Rawler is not so big that
[1:50:12] [laughter]
if you have tr mobility trouble, they're
[1:50:16] handicap spots.
That's it's [laughter]
[1:50:21] I get you up on out of here.
[1:50:28] [laughter]
[1:50:33] » We still have um and Citizen comments,
please feel free to step up and you have
[1:50:39] three minutes
and we'll start the timer after you say
[1:50:44] your name and your address. Going once,
going twice.
[1:50:52] All right, the next item we have on our
agenda is mayor, city council comments.
[1:50:56] Um, we have four motions to either
reappoint or to appoint. I want to bring
[1:51:01] it to the council's um understanding
that I decided to um the for the motion
[1:51:07] to appoint C and D. We're going to move
those to the next city council meeting
[1:51:12] so we can get more documentation
pertaining to that. And so today we're
[1:51:16] only going to have um A and B. And so
the first one, the floor is open for a
[1:51:20] motion to reappoint Mr. Dell Martin to
the Industrial Development Authority
[1:51:25] Board for a six-year term.
>> Jackson will make a motion.
[1:51:29] » Second.
[1:51:33] Did you get here? The second was
[1:51:38] » move the prop second. The floor is open
for discussion.
[1:51:44] » Hearing no further discussion, we'll
move on to a voice vote. All in favor
[1:51:48] say I.
>> I.
[1:51:49] » All oppose say nay.
>> That is unanimous. Ladies and gentlemen,
[1:51:54] next we have a motion to reappoint Mr.
Um Steve Balls to the Industrial
[1:51:58] Development Authority Board for a
six-year term. Floor is open for a
[1:52:02] motion.
>> Very motions.
[1:52:07] » Pel second.
>> Move the proper second. Floor is open
[1:52:09] for discussion.
[1:52:13] Hear no further discussion. We'll move
on to a voice vote. All in favor say I.
[1:52:17] » I.
>> All oppose say nay.
[1:52:20] » Pass unanimously. Ladies and gentlemen,
next we have comments for the good
[1:52:25] order. good of the order. Comments for
the good of the order. She thank you.
[1:52:31] Um, we see that this next city council
meeting will be Monday, September the
[1:52:35] 21st, 2026.
We also see that there's going to be a
[1:52:39] K9 plunge. Is there anyone here wants to
talk on that? Um, from the Oh, yes.
[1:52:51] » Mr. Floyd, you're back again.
>> I am. So, I'd encourage everyone with a
[1:52:56] with a friendly dog to uh come to the K9
Plunge. It's it's a great event. It's
[1:53:01] grown every year. Last year was the
biggest we've had. We had over 65 dogs
[1:53:05] and their attendant owners. So, it was a
it was a lot of fun. If you've never
[1:53:08] been, I encourage you to go even if you
don't have a dog. It's uh this Saturday
[1:53:12] from 12:00 to 2. It's our official last
event to close the uh pool season out.
[1:53:17] We had uh we had really good attendance
on Saturday and Sunday with over 180 and
[1:53:22] on Saturday and over 230 on Sunday. So,
this is kind of the season finale. So,
[1:53:28] we look forward to this every year. So,
uh if you know somebody or just want to
[1:53:33] come and have a good time, you know,
pass the word along.
[1:53:37] » Thank you.
>> Hey, Floyd. Yeah.
[1:53:38] » Is uh pre-registration required?
>> No.
[1:53:41] » They can just pay when they get there.
>> That's right.
[1:53:43] » Thank you.
>> Yeah.
[1:53:45] » Excellent. Okay. All right. Is there
anyone here who here to speak on behalf
[1:53:50] of of the rainy run?
All right. We can all just announce that
[1:53:56] the rainy run is September the 19th at
the Veterans Memorial Park. Floor is
[1:54:00] still open for council. Is there any
comment for the good of the order from
[1:54:02] the council?
[1:54:09] Hear no other comments. For the good of
the order um from council, we do not
[1:54:13] have any closed session for the meeting
tonight. We've adjourned everything that
[1:54:17] needs to be done and business need to be
taken for on agenda.