1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,920 Okay. >> Traffic on the way over. 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:08,240 » Okay. All right. Let me know when >> it is. You're the only one that got 3 00:00:07,359 --> 00:00:12,240 that. >> What is it? It's up to 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:18,080 » All right. We're going to call the meeting to order uh for a 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,640 » a short meeting. Um Emily, I have the roll call, please. 6 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:24,640 » Sure. Council member Piper. Yep. >> Council member MH, Council Member 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Wilson, Mayor Prom Black. Yep. And Mayor Daringer. 8 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:32,800 » Okay. Uh pledge of allegiance. Uh Jim, would you do the honors? Yeah, please. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:36,880 Thank you. >> Ready? Begin. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:42,719 » I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:47,760 for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:52,320 justice for all. >> Okay. All right. [laughter] 13 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:56,239 And then we have no presentations, proclamations, announcements of terms of 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,960 the order of the agenda. May I have a motion? 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,120 » Move the order of the agenda. I second it. 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:06,159 » All those in favor? >> Okay. Any oppose? No. Okay. Blue folder 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:11,760 items. We have none. Uh public comment on non-aggenda items. We have no member 18 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:14,400 of the public comment here. Um so can I dispense? 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,759 » Actually, uh we don't have anybody here, but I do have one that I was asked to 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,360 read into the record if that's okay, please. 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:26,960 » Okay. Uh so this is a letter from Mr. Roger Hawkins. Uh, dear Mayor Daringer 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,799 and members of the city council, as this is an important community matter, please 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:35,360 read this letter into the record at the next council meeting if I cannot attend. 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:40,960 I am writing to reiterate a concern that many residents share. Traffic conditions 25 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:46,000 on our roads and trails remain unsafe with excessive speeding and near miss 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,840 incidents occurring regularly. Despite repeated discussions over the years, 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:54,880 there has been no meaningful progress towards improving road or trail safety. 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Before someone is seriously injured, I urge the council to take concrete steps 29 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:03,680 to address these conditions. The current situation is untenable and the community 30 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:09,679 deserves visible action rather than continued delay. 31 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:12,720 » Okay. And that are there any other um from received from the residents? That 32 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:18,959 is it. >> All right. Then with that um we will 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:22,640 conclude the public comment and then on the consent calendars anybody have any 34 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:28,160 items they wish to pull? >> I make a motion we approve all the 35 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:33,280 consent calendar. [clears throat] >> All right. All those in favor 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:37,440 » I no one opposed. Okay. And we have no excluded consent items, no commission 37 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:45,440 items, no public hearings. Now for a discussion item, we have Robert Samario 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:49,760 in the house and he is ready on 12A. >> Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of 39 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:54,160 council. So I'm happy to present to you the audited financial statements for the 40 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,519 city of Rolling Hills. This is for the year ended June 30, 2025. So we're we're 41 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:04,239 about seven months in to the new year. And I just want to remind you that last 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:09,280 year we brought this to you sometime in April. So we're early. And you know, one 43 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:14,080 of the reasons that we got a favorable sort of fee from our auditors because 44 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,840 they they recognize that we're not trying to get things done at the same 45 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,280 time everybody else is like in the fall. So, we're willing to push it back and 46 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,159 start later. So, we do that. But, I didn't want to finish earlier than April 47 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:30,400 because I think it's more meaningful that way. Um, so what I want the purpose 48 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:33,680 of our item is just to represent it to you and then have you, you know, receive 49 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:39,040 and file it. But I'm going to go through it fairly quickly. You may recall that 50 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:42,319 um a few months ago I pres brought to you our what we call the preliminary 51 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,280 year and results for last year. So I already shared to you kind of where we 52 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:49,519 thought we'd be at the end of the year. We now have final audited numbers which 53 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,640 are going to be which are pretty very close to where we thought we were going 54 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:56,480 to be before the the audit was completed. So that's why I'm going to go 55 00:03:54,239 --> 00:04:01,120 fairly quick with this. I do have we do have the auditors here online on Zoom. 56 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:05,680 So once I'm done with mine um I'm going to turn it over to Jamie Lambert. He's 57 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:09,439 the senior manager for Malisel and he's going to talk about their process, the 58 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:13,120 results of the audit, the reports that were issued and I would I would 59 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:16,959 encourage you to ask any questions you might have of them about, you know, 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:20,320 their process, any concerns you have about, you know, internal controls, that 61 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,919 kind of thing because I know we've had discussions in the past about that. So 62 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:28,800 really, I encourage you to, you know, ask away and about what their 63 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:33,600 perspectives are on in terms of their their audit work and our internal 64 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,800 controls. So, why we have audited financial 65 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,080 statements? They're required by the state controllers's office. Uh, I 66 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,639 thought they might have been required by the city's municipal code, but I 67 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,759 couldn't find anything in there. Maybe they're in there, but but it is a 68 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,919 requirement that every city and county issue prepare audited financial 69 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:54,240 statements um because we do have to submit those to the state. Um, they 70 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,960 differ from what we present to you during the year because now we're 71 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,440 dealing with final numbers and they are audited from an independent CPA. Whereas 72 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:06,880 during the year we focus on how are we doing budget to actual in in based on 73 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,960 what we expect our expectations were the this report which is referred to as the 74 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,800 ACTER it used to be called the caffer but somewhere in South America that's 75 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:19,680 considered a derogatory term so they changed it to ACER it stands for annual 76 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:23,759 comprehensive financial report and one of the things that focuses on additional 77 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,360 kind of to the year results but on the financial health of the city and every 78 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:32,320 agency and I'll get more into that in a moment 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:37,440 So the key components is of the acter are the management's discussion and 80 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:41,440 analysis. This is tries to make sense in layman's terms of what the document 81 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:46,080 says. There are a lot of numbers and and footnotes and most people who aren't in 82 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,440 finance have a hard time understanding what the numbers mean and how to 83 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:55,039 interpret them unless you're like a a grading agency. The idea of an MDNA is 84 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,400 that it gives you a layman's perspective and it tells a story and and I write 85 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,759 this every year, but it sort of tries to tell a story of how did we do and what 86 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:07,680 these financial statements are trying to say. Um, it includes what's called 87 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:10,720 entitywide financial statements. And, you know, I'm a little cynical about 88 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:15,280 some of these things because I think that while this was intended to help the 89 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:18,880 reader understand the the financial statements, they they sometimes can make 90 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:25,680 it more complicated. And this was something that back in 2001 or two was 91 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,800 required. But the idea was that one of the criticisms of local government and 92 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:32,960 county government was that when you look at their financial statements, you 93 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:36,720 really couldn't assess the financial health of the entity. When you think of 94 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:41,440 kind of how the way they're presented, it wasn't in any term that was similar 95 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:44,800 to the private sector. If you look at you know Apple's financial statements 96 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:48,960 you will know whether they're about their financial condition and whether 97 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,479 it's improving or deteriorating over the has deterior deteriorated or improved 98 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,080 over the last year. You couldn't do that with with fund financial statements. So 99 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:00,240 this was an attempt to say let's measure you in the same way the private sector 100 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:05,039 does to see are you really in good financial health or not and are how are 101 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,000 you doing over time. The fund financial statements are kind 102 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,840 of what we've always seen for many many years. you know, you look at the general 103 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,599 fund, our restricted funds at at that level. And then there's footnotes, a lot 104 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,680 of words in there which kind of explain the numbers and then in the back you 105 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:22,560 have the individual funds that are that are kind of combined toward the front. 106 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,280 So you can see individual funds and how they did. 107 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,520 So this is entitywide. Again, this is intended to present like similar in the 108 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,720 private sector. How are we doing and what's our what's our financial 109 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,319 condition? I'm not going to get into a lot of details other than to kind of 110 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:43,440 point to you to the bottom section where it says net position. 111 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:47,840 So net position for those of you who do have private businesses or or follow 112 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,440 this stuff, it's kind of the same thing as your equity. It's it's a measure of 113 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,360 your financial health at a given point in time. And for us, it's at June 30. 114 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:58,080 And you know what you want to see are bigger numbers because it's the 115 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:01,599 difference between how much you have in assets, all assets, and what you owe, 116 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,599 all your liabilities. And that difference is your net position. And I 117 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:10,560 just wanted to point to you that we have as of June 3025 118 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:14,639 um unrestricted net position of $3.6 million. Most of that is in the general 119 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:17,520 fund. That's the reserves that we have that are both assigned to for 120 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:21,440 emergencies and those that are unassigned and and we'll talk more about 121 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:25,199 that. We do have some restricted monies. Those are largely related to monies for 122 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:29,599 the prop, you know, restricted funds, Prop A, Prop C, our utility fund and 123 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:35,200 things like that. and they are in fact restricted by external forces either by 124 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:39,680 contract or by regulation or law. Um but so it you know what I'll tell you 125 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:44,640 is that the the important important measure is how did we do in the year and 126 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:47,839 this says what was the changes in their net position throughout the year and 127 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:53,440 I've highlighted what the important number that overall we saw an increase 128 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,600 in our in our net position by almost $2 million in the first column of numbers 129 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:03,120 which is the governmental activities. That's everything but our refuge fund. 130 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:08,240 And and largely the reason we saw that is because we had substantial 131 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:12,720 contributions to our capital program from FEMA. If you look at the top, you 132 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:15,600 see the operating grants. It's really a little bit of a misnomer. It's a 133 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:21,040 combination of operating grants and capital grants. But we in total re 134 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:24,720 earned or received about 1.4 almost $ 1.5 million from the federal government 135 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:29,440 toward our underground and utility projects. And that fund goes to capital 136 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,120 and investments and so that is considered a revenue and the expenditure 137 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:37,279 of those funds is not considered an expense on this on this statement. It's 138 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:41,279 capitalized as an asset. So that really explains that. Um but I think you know 139 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:46,399 the if it weren't for that we would still be in the positive and overall 140 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,760 citywide we we saw an increase in our net position. 141 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,880 um you'll see that they're going to have a different sense of this when you look 142 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:59,680 at the general fund because it's on a different basis and um it's not going to 143 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:04,480 look as stable as what this looks now. So look at the general fund here are 144 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:08,720 revenues and showing the adopted budget actual revenues. Again, we've talked a 145 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:14,480 lot about this, but the one thing I will point out is, and this is not because we 146 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,680 have a magic wand, but it's a lot of this is that we're just trying to do a 147 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:22,720 better job with projecting our revenues. We are only $14,000 148 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,440 different from what we projected, you know, long time ago before the year 149 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,880 ended. Um, there were some individual variances, but even those variances at 150 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,160 the line item level were pretty nominal. Um, so I think it's good that we didn't 151 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,360 see much of a departure from what we expected overall. 152 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:45,200 On the expense side, um we did have some overages and we've explained that in the 153 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:49,120 past. You know, the 60,000 in administration was primarily legal costs 154 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:52,880 related to the land movement that occurred in the peninsula under public 155 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,720 safety or I'm sorry, under planning the overage is because of the additional 156 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,680 costs we paid to the county. Remember, we had that issue where all our costs 157 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,120 went up by, you know, hundred plus thousand dollars even though and our 158 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,160 revenues went down. We're still working on that, but that's why we had that 159 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,200 overage. Um, but otherwise, we're pretty close to 160 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:14,560 budget if it weren't for those two things. 161 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:19,040 Um, this is a summary of the of all of that. I would focus on the middle 162 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:24,240 column, which is the actuals. So, in total, we received 2.6 million in 163 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:30,000 revenues and we spent $2.8 million in expenditures. So, we actually consumed 164 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:34,560 reserves by $182,000 unexpectedly. Um again because of the reasons I mentioned 165 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:38,959 our capital transfers of 344 those that's planned that's that's we set 166 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:43,760 aside reserves for that purpose. Um but overall we use $527,000 167 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,480 from our reserves to cover all of our costs including capital. 168 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,760 So I'll turn it over I'll ask you there any questions about the numbers before I 169 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:58,079 turn it over to Jamie to talk about the audit results. 170 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:03,600 I just have [clears throat] a quick question on the you mentioned in I think 171 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:10,800 it's your report that um page uh where you talk about the citywide analysis and 172 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:18,720 our net position that there was uh direct charges for the uh refues that 173 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:22,959 were 994 uh thousand. It's lower than the 174 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,760 budgeted revenues and you're not sure why the assessments fell short this 175 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,200 year. >> Yes. 176 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,680 » So what do you are you when would we find this out? 177 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:36,399 » Yeah. So I haven't had a chance to look at exactly what happened. You know we 178 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:40,320 tell the county how much to charge each parcel? It's I think this past year was 179 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,399 15 for this current year it's 1585 1,585. 180 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:48,800 And we take the cost and divide it by the 700 parcels that are assessed. 181 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,800 I don't know why we came up short because the year before we were almost 182 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:59,600 like to the dollar but this so in 24 but in last year we were short by about you 183 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:04,480 know $11,000 or so or $12,000. I can't explain to you why that is 184 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:08,000 whether lack of payment maybe some properties came off the tax roll. I 185 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:12,079 don't know. I have not had a chance to ask those questions. Um but I think 186 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,360 that's an unusual occurrence that we see this variance. We expect that every year 187 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,519 we're going to collect exactly what those costs are because that's how the 188 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:23,279 math works, you know. >> Does that help? 189 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:27,680 » Yeah. So, it's not satisfying. >> Meaning they're if they're not get using 190 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:30,240 the trash services that would do it like if they've they've no they've suspended 191 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,480 it or >> Well, I mean again we we've identified 192 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:38,160 700 parcels that are subject that are going to be paying for refues, right? 193 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:41,200 And we take the total cost of let's just roughly a million and we divide it by 194 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:46,240 the 700 parcels. That's how we come up with the per parcel rate of I think it 195 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:50,000 was 1585 and that we tell the county here are the parcels and here is the 196 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,079 amount and they put that on the property tax bill and so presumably then you know 197 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,880 then the idea is that they would pay that along with their property regular 198 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:01,120 property tax bill and the county would remit it to us. I don't know why we came 199 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,959 up short this year like I said it's to me I haven't figured that one out. I 200 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:10,399 haven't pursued that yet. Um but normally we are almost exactly what we 201 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:18,720 would expect to get. Can I ask a followup question on that? 202 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:24,480 » So, we have parcels like like for example the fire station. 203 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:28,639 They do trash pickup at the fire station. 204 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Do do we bill the county? >> No. 205 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:38,560 » For that. So is is republic >> charging us for or not charging us but 206 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:43,279 is republic saying we have this number of parcels and you're turning in this 207 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:53,199 number of parcels but places like hicks ring cab ring the view state um the view 208 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:57,920 uh spot up on crest so I can think of four or five different places and even 209 00:14:55,279 --> 00:15:02,000 here who pays for our >> trash pickup up here. Yeah. 210 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:03,760 » Could those have something to do with why there's a 211 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,800 » I don't think so. >> And I don't know. I'm not familiar 212 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:12,399 enough with the city to to know those specific areas, but any governmentowned 213 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:18,880 facility or property, they are not assessed for for refues. So, whatever 214 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:23,920 the cost of those the services are get spread across the 700 parcels that are 215 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,639 also receiving services but are not government agencies, if that makes 216 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,639 sense. >> So, 217 00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:34,639 If >> so, we should get 100% either way 218 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:39,440 because we're just it's just a few, you know, the spread across the 700 that in 219 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:45,000 total should add up to the total amount that we are paying REA Republic for 220 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,000 their services. 221 00:15:45,839 --> 00:15:52,320 » Yeah. >> And anybody else have any Yes. 222 00:15:50,415 --> 00:15:57,600 [clears throat] on the um general fund revenues um spreadsheet the third column 223 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:03,120 almost the last item miscellaneous revenue I think you told us before why 224 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:06,079 it budget six and went to 50 I I forget what the reason was 225 00:16:03,839 --> 00:16:09,600 » yeah that was the we didn't budget for a grant that we got to do the landscape 226 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:14,160 work around here and so was I think it was $48,000 for the grant so we have a 227 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,040 corresponding expense um 228 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:20,880 » the other one was interest budgeted 140 and we actually got 184 229 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:23,920 » how do we miss that boat. I mean that should be pretty predictable. 230 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:28,160 » No, actually it's not predictable because you know the variability comes 231 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,560 from the monies we have with um with PARS a section 115 trust and those are 232 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,160 invested in a lot different way that they got invested in equities and a lot 233 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:41,279 of things that have more volatility. >> This is just a a natural market. 234 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:44,320 » Yeah. I mean it so yeah we and I and to be honest you know it's it's a 235 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:47,120 conservative number so I don't I don't try to be aggressive on what 236 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:50,480 » 140 you mean? >> Yeah. The 140 is very it's very 237 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:55,279 conservative. Well, I'm sorry. The 140 is a conservative number. The 184 238 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,320 just things just did better than we expected. I mean, again, 239 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,240 » a lot better though. >> Yeah. 240 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:04,480 » Yeah. >> I'm trying to remember why it did so 241 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,919 well, but um >> I just maybe it's a super conservative 242 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,919 number. Yeah. The PARS number is separate. So, I I'm sorry. I It's a 243 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,480 separate number. >> I'll get back to you. I'll send you an 244 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:18,319 email tell you how we why we ended up doing so well. 245 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:22,880 the whoever that money was invested with probably had some projection or maybe 246 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:26,559 not I don't know about or history of their return on investment. 247 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:30,320 » Yeah. I mean the only thing I can think of is 248 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:35,280 aside from the fact that I just tried to be conservative with that estimate is 249 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:39,600 that we do see turnover you know these are all CDEs that have a fixed term and 250 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:42,000 a fixed rate of return or interest when they mature. I don't know what the 251 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,360 interest rate is going to be at that point. I can't predict that going 252 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,360 forward. So if we have a maturity CD that matures that was at 3% but we get 253 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:52,080 4% then we're going to enjoy better revenues than we had predicted or 254 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:56,320 thought we would get. >> Well anywhere else this would be budget 255 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,919 less but you know for us it's >> meaningful. 256 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,919 » Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. 257 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:06,880 » I I have one other question on the lease revenue from the community association. 258 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,720 I know that we continue to go in and say well we'll reduce their rent for this 259 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:16,000 and for this and I just want to make sure. So, is this 58,000 260 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:18,880 the actual revenue? >> Yeah. And that's just a timing 261 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,919 difference because we just we recognize it when we get it. So, I think there 262 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,640 might be I think sounds like there's two two months of revenues that aren't 263 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:29,200 booked in there. >> Oh, I see. Oh, so it's not that we 264 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,400 adjusted more things. So, that 69 would be what you'd be using for next year as 265 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,840 well. That >> they pay us like $5,700 a month if I'm 266 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:39,280 not mistaken. So, I just >> I thought this was after everything that 267 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:46,280 closed. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. any other. Okay. All right. Then 268 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:46,280 we can proceed to the next phase. 269 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:54,880 » So Jamie has his own PowerPoint that he's going to share. Um we're going to 270 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:58,240 take him off of mute. Let's see if we can get there. 271 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:01,760 And there's Jamie in a minute. Again, he's a senior manager. So he kind of is 272 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:06,160 the, you know, oversees the whole audit process. So he's going to share some of 273 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:11,840 his perspectives and the results of the audit. Thank you, Jamie. Absolutely. 274 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:13,280 Can you Can you see my screen? >> Yes. 275 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:17,280 » Yes. >> All right. Perfect. Well, thank you so 276 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:19,919 much for that introduction, Robert. Like, like you mentioned, my name is 277 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,640 Jamie Lambert. I'm a senior manager here with LSL. Um, uh, this is now my I was 278 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:28,720 involved with the city of Rolling Hills audit last year, and this will be my 279 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:34,240 second year on the audit. So, um, and I appreciate y'all y'all bringing us back 280 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:38,880 this year, me forward. Um, so, you know, LSL was 281 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,760 engaged by the performed the following procedures. We performed a financial 282 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,919 statement audit for the city for the year ended June 30th, 2025 in accordance 283 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:49,200 with generally accepted auditing standards and government auditing 284 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:53,440 standards. And we also performed a single audit over the city's federal 285 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:56,960 awards for the year of June 30, 2025 in accordance with federal uniform 286 00:19:54,799 --> 00:20:02,640 guidance. Um our scope, you know, we we performed 287 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:06,400 year and inter field work um you know, in a couple weeks. Uh during the interim 288 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:10,880 field work, we kind of examined the internal control, you know, performed 289 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:15,919 interviews with with with staff and personnel. Um 290 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:19,600 pulled some, you know, we also reviewed these policies and procedures. We pulled 291 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:24,640 some transactions to verify that, you know, the policies were working as as 292 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:28,880 intended. Um provided relevant feedback. Then we performed a risk assessment to 293 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:33,520 help plan our our our final procedures for the audit. Uh where we did our 294 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:37,440 detailed testing of account balances and transactions. We did some compliance 295 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,880 testing related to laws, regulations, brand agreements and contracts. We also 296 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:45,919 performed our single audit and then you know some other procedures as well. 297 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:49,840 As a result of our audit, um we issued an unmodified auditor's opinion on the 298 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:54,320 financial statements for the city. Um and and what that means is that we were 299 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,760 providing reasonable assurance that the financial statements were accurate and 300 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:02,080 reliable are accurate and reliable as of June 30th, 2025. Um we also issued a 301 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,080 report on internal control and compliance knowing no significant 302 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:10,240 deficiencies or material weaknesses in internal control and no material n 303 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,559 compliance with laws regulations or grant agreements. 304 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Additionally, [clears throat] we didn't have any findings in the 305 00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:22,480 previous year this year 2024 that we need to follow up on for 2025. 306 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Um also we issued an online opinion on the city's compliance with the 307 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:30,320 requirements of major federal award programs as a single audit. Uh and what 308 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,280 that means is we you know as a result of our procedures [snorts] we determined 309 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:36,880 the city was in compliance with terms and conditions of their major federal 310 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:43,200 reward programs um at the end of fiscal year. We also identified concern doubts 311 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:48,960 and um we did not identify any fraud waste or abuse during the fiscal year. 312 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Um we also we had no disagreements with management about application of 313 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:56,559 accounting principles. We didn't have any difficulty conducting the audit and 314 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,720 we also determined all estimates used by management preparing the statements were 315 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:03,919 reasonable. I put this slide in here financial 316 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:08,559 highlights but Robert you know just went over all the highlights so I'm not you 317 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:14,640 know go over these again kind of went through the whole thing. So um with that 318 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:18,400 you know that's my presentation and I'll you know open up to any [clears throat] 319 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,679 questions you might have. >> Does anybody have any questions about 320 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:28,400 the audit? No. Okay. I think uh everyone's 321 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:32,960 satisfied with your explanation in the documents. So they have no questions 322 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:35,920 other than like where are you from? Okay. [laughter] 323 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,760 » Well, actually I am from the great state of Alabama. 324 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,780 » No way. >> [laughter] 325 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:52,720 » Well, LSL a few years ago determined that we were having um and they were 326 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:58,400 having quite a bit of difficulty uh recruiting everyone locally in Orange 327 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:02,720 County in California who wanted to be one CPAs and also wanted to be 328 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,960 government auditors. It's a this is a unique breed of people who wants to be a 329 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:12,000 CPA and a government auditor. There's a a increasingly low number of people 330 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:16,559 interested in that. So they started they started looking outward and the result 331 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,760 has been and I've now been here for four years. I think I was our first fully 332 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:25,280 remote employee. Um the result we have full teams were able to complete our 333 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:30,159 audits. We're able to fully staff our audits uh and provide a higher level 334 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:35,440 assurance in our opinion um to our clients as a result. Um, so we have now 335 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:40,240 people in we have we have opened a location in Texas, we have a location in 336 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Phoenix, we have a partner in New York, I'm I'm obviously in Alabama, we have 337 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:49,200 people um, you know, all over the country now and really has provided LSL 338 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:56,080 the opportunity to provide to give much better service and um, also not to have 339 00:23:53,679 --> 00:24:03,280 less turnover really because government auditors get burned out really quick. 340 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:08,880 But I am um I I do come out to California fairly regularly for 341 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:12,960 conferences and things like that. And um the 342 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,880 um partner the ultimate partner on the job is a California CPA. I'm working on 343 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:21,039 getting my California CPA currently licensed in Alabama. Uh but you know I'm 344 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:27,039 going to get that this year kind of reciprocity there. Um so yeah, thank you 345 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:30,240 for asking that question and uh since you brought it up I'll just mention a 346 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:33,919 roll tie. So, >> all right. Okay. Well, thank you for 347 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:37,039 sharing. All right. All right. Well, thank you. If there's no other 348 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:39,840 questions, then we can conclude that matter. And since he's three hours time 349 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:44,720 difference, >> I make a motion we receive and file. 350 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,080 » Second. >> All right. All those in favor say I. 351 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:52,162 » I. Okay. No. >> He's wearing pants. I had a question. 352 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,162 You wearing pants, [laughter] 353 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,720 » Jim? Jim, >> there's a rule. Don't ask questions you 354 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,200 don't really want to know the [laughter] answer to. 355 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:03,679 » Good point. I'm glad we cut that screen off before 356 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,827 that question got [laughter] to >> Thank you all. 357 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:10,640 » All right. Thank you, Robert. Okay. [laughter] 358 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:14,377 » All right. Okay. I know. >> All right. That could have been an 359 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,200 overshare. Let's We can try to reframe. [laughter] 360 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:22,799 All right. So, now going to matters uh from the city council. Um before we get 361 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:29,919 into item 13A, I just wanted to let the council know that I did uh as per the 362 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:36,559 request faithfully oppose the um the county's um I proposal for that half 363 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:40,240 extra half cent measure that they uh wanted to put on the June ballot. 364 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Unfortunately, that was unsuccessful. They had uh they limited people to 90 365 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:53,919 minutes and one minute per person. Um, and they had over 700 people that wanted 366 00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:59,840 to speak. So, I had to exercise in order to get my one minute of comment, which I 367 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:05,520 I managed to truncate while I'm waiting online several hours to be able to get 368 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:10,799 all the salient points in. U, but I had to contact somebody to get me up in the 369 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:14,559 line so I could be sure to give the the comment. Uh, nevertheless, it was not 370 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,240 successful, but >> you know, I just wonder. I know 371 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:22,559 » they're going to tax us more. >> The done deal before anyone with that. 372 00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:27,440 » But anyway, but we can still try to tell our res. 373 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:32,400 » No, supervisor Bar was the sole no vote. >> Only one. 374 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:36,799 » She's the only Republican, you know, so just on the on the board. 375 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:38,559 » Just gets worse and worse. It's most regressive way to head do it. So 376 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,840 whatever. >> It's not the same. I mean this crap. I 377 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,720 mean, every time you turn around, it just it's 378 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,919 » unbelievable. But the cities are unified and they're putting out the message to 379 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:52,480 their residents that notwithstanding the fact that this is a special tax which 380 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:58,240 would normally have a twothirds vote disguised into a which is really a 381 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:03,039 general tax which only requires 50% puts one um then uh which they think is going 382 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:08,960 to assure them of a victory that if we get people to really vote no in in 383 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:15,919 unison then you know they would have to uh dig in in their own pockets and and 384 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:20,320 so I did get report in LASist which um I was the only one who said no to things 385 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:26,080 that because there were other people who voiced objections including the director 386 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:30,400 for California contract cities. Uh but um so anyway, so we we'll keep up the 387 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:35,200 now it's to the voters. So that's that's my report on that and now we have 388 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,880 anybody else want to say anything before we go to 13A? All right, we're gonna go 389 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:43,840 to 13A. >> Okay. Well, good evening, uh, mayor and 390 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:48,799 council members. Uh, this item is coming before you tonight at the request of 391 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:55,840 Mayor Prom Black from last August. Uh, basically, uh, regarding the South Bay 392 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:01,520 COG's um, annual dues, uh, as you'll see within the staff report, attachment A, 393 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:08,240 uh, has the current dues formula, which was approved back in 2024. At that 394 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:16,480 point, uh, the city's dues were $8,91. Um, part of the motion of the COG board 395 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:23,360 at that time, uh, was to simplify the, uh, structure for how dues were, um, 396 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:26,159 were, [clears throat] uh, were >> calculated. 397 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:31,520 » Calculated. Thank you. Sorry, I'm having a having a senior moment. Um, [laughter] 398 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:37,760 » you're not old enough. >> You'd be surprised, council member. uh 399 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:43,600 uh and and what they did was they set a uh a CPI uh the the dues would increase 400 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:49,520 for each city based on CPI each year with a maximum cut off of 5%. Uh the 401 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:54,000 staff report as attached has all that information uh historically because we 402 00:28:51,520 --> 00:29:00,559 did discuss this back uh a couple years back. Um, with that said, the dues for 403 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:06,000 this year, uh, or the the upcoming year, fiscal year 2627, 404 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:09,200 uh, will be 8,625, uh, and that's based on an adjustment of 405 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:16,320 3.2% uh, CPI. Um with that said, this matter 406 00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:21,679 is really before you to discuss uh if you want to have further discussion or 407 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:26,640 information brought forward um as it relates to uh your membership dues uh 408 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:30,799 now and going forward. Uh with that said, available for any questions. 409 00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:35,279 » So if we [clears throat] approve this, that means we're agreeing to remain 410 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:41,039 members for another year. This is a receive and file uh of of just 411 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:45,840 information for you to the body to have a discussion and you can direct staff as 412 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:50,880 to whether you want to bring back an item where you might consider uh not 413 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,159 retaining membership which is why I do have a paragraph in the staff report 414 00:29:52,320 --> 00:30:00,480 about what does that look like and what is the city obligated to do under the 415 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:05,600 terms of the uh JPA agreement. Uh so this is really a free-for-all for you 416 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:09,520 each to have to express your thoughts and considerations related to uh the 417 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,559 matter. >> Thank you. 418 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:18,559 » Okay. Does anybody else have any question of Christian before we do it? 419 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:22,799 Okay. All right. Um and there is no public comment because we have no um 420 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:27,679 public I didn't call it because there's still nobody here in the audience to 421 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:34,559 call public comment for the record. Uh so um well in terms of that um I know 422 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:38,080 that there was a discussion and I don't know if people want to hear about some 423 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,360 of that now but I don't know we have all the information about what the services 424 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:46,640 are >> um in the staff report um 425 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,720 » from the previous time this is not the time to make the motion 426 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:56,240 to withdraw from the cog or is it >> you could actually that's that is really 427 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:00,000 at the decision of this body >> I mean 428 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,880 Do we get any value out of this that actually matters to us? 429 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:12,000 » Is that a open-ended question or >> I'd say yeah all 430 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,240 » the cog right now is administering some grants for us and it requires us to have 431 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,480 reporting for recycling for the state of California and they're managing those 432 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:24,480 grant programs for us. You can see the results of that program and in the 433 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:28,799 material we put out for through our newsletter. So for example, organics, 434 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,080 we're not required, but we are expected to put information out educating the 435 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,000 residents about that. We don't >> required. You said 436 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:40,399 » the education component. We are >> and that part is what we're achieving 437 00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:44,640 through the grant programs. They provide those services. We don't do it in house. 438 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:49,840 We don't work with um the state of California recycling services to to um 439 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:54,480 get these mandates. They administer that all on our behalf. All we do is to be 440 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,679 able to open up our facility and educate the residents through the blue 441 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:03,360 newsletter and presenting events here. We've had a couple since I've been here 442 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:07,679 of those events. Um other services that you provide are um research. If we're 443 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:11,440 looking for information that we may not necessarily have on staff, we reach out 444 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,919 to the cog and they provide it for us. Um they have in-house personnel that 445 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:20,799 again just specialties um and experience that we don't have it. We attend 446 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:25,360 meetings for planning, engineering, um special pro projects, special events. 447 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,279 Upcoming would be a housing trust. I mean, there's so many different 448 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,320 components. A housing trust, it's not up for discussion this evening, but 449 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:36,159 » we don't want a housing trust, >> right? But those are the type of things 450 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,120 » telling us how to do a housing trust >> and and they're not 451 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,640 » it's not mandatory for that. >> But those are the things where they're 452 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:48,000 conducting that level of research for not just us, but for the agencies in the 453 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:53,600 South Bay. So there are some benefits in having them. It is additional bodies 454 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:56,960 that we do not have in house. I guess that's the most important part 455 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:01,840 is the time spent. >> So when you said you know that have 456 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:06,720 planning things that they can help us with. Can you get I I guess what we 457 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:13,519 would look for is may maybe we could direct staff to give us just a very 458 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:17,679 quick breakdown of what services apply they provide. we have been able to 459 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,559 utilize this >> and what value you think it brings 460 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:27,519 » and what value >> because if we we get out of it 461 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:33,600 » which and you can say oh we think we are getting 15,000 or $20,000 the value let 462 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:37,760 me show you how it is then that's a different statement than 463 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,279 the perception that we get zero out of it 464 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:45,120 » right >> and it might be the this cog versus that 465 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:47,679 cog versus the league of whatever It's sort of the same problem across all 466 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,760 of them. >> A lot of the things they think they're 467 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,480 solving have nothing to do with us. >> And [clears throat] so when when they 468 00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:00,399 when they give us information like this, they I'm not saying the COG doesn't do a 469 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:05,440 lot. you know, I trotted down the elections center that the cog arranged 470 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:10,240 that to her and I found that very very useful to me and you know and I shared 471 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:17,280 what the things that I saw there with the women's club and here um about 472 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:24,480 uh election security and I found it very helpful but most things that they do I'm 473 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:30,960 not seeing the benefit to us not saying that they don't do a lot but if we could 474 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:35,919 find about just you know quick not in great deal but just you know we utilize 475 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,119 COG for this this this and this year if we drop out of COG this this and the 476 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,879 repercussions would be this this and this you know we'd need to find somebody 477 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:49,040 to do this or something like that I think it's I don't know if you guys 478 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:54,000 think it's worth having direct directing staff to do something like that to bring 479 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:59,599 it back for us if or we're going to say no just out of hand we've said for the 480 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:03,680 last three or four years. We'll do it this year again, but boy, I don't want 481 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:08,400 to do it, you know, next year when it goes up. So, some of us may have made up 482 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:13,599 our minds already. >> Mhm. Okay. 483 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:17,680 » I have a question. Um, >> that just escaped me. 484 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:22,279 » Oh, boy. That was fast. >> You don't have a senior. 485 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,279 » I do. [laughter] 486 00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:32,240 » Okay. Well, I mean, there was something I know we we have a list. um of on I 487 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:38,160 don't know what page that that is uh 140 of 155 um that there was different 488 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,920 things that they did there was the >> wait [clears throat] I remember my 489 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,960 question >> okay all right okay I knew once I 490 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,280 started that you [laughter] would have sorry no that's okay 491 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:51,440 » did anybody drop out this year any uh or uh resign I don't know what what the 492 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,119 process would be but did did the cogs any members 493 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,400 » no >> okay I think some other like the league 494 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:04,000 in some of the contracts. >> Yeah, the league has there's nine cities 495 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:07,920 statewide, that's it, that are not members of the league. 496 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,480 » That was my question. Sorry. >> So, instead of going through the list of 497 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:16,720 what they say, I think staff needs to tell us what value they think and have 498 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:21,680 to monetize what it is. We used to outsource 499 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,280 » what Benjamin now does. And the value of having Benjamin here to do those things 500 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,960 is one, we got a bunch of stuff off the list and there's more value of of doing 501 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:36,160 it. I'm not saying we're hiring somebody, but how does this work with 502 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:43,440 what we can do and can't do because yeah, historically it's 503 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:46,720 not a lot of bang for our buck. But >> and in by value, you're talking about 504 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:51,040 like what would it cost us if we had to do this contract out? have to do the 505 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,200 paperwork for the trash or for the because they keep making everything 506 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,560 worse, right? >> And so they make everything I mean so 507 00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:01,839 now we have to do the the bot trash paperwork even though we don't it's like 508 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:07,839 storm water just a waste of money but we got to do it. So if you can put together 509 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:13,440 an outline that's clearly defined on what matters to us versus what they do 510 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:19,839 because if we go through what they do 90% of it's nothing for us. 511 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:25,359 maybe more and not what we should do what we're 512 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:31,440 absolutely forced required to do. >> I don't want to do one thing more ever. 513 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,920 In fact, we can put off a lot of stuff until they come at us and say, "Oh, 514 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:39,920 you're 5 years old behind." Say, "Oh, sorry." And that's fine, too. But then 515 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,599 that happens all the time. >> Except for housing. 516 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:48,079 » Yeah. Except we get sued like like some cities did 517 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:52,160 » um by, you know, get sued. only because we went to the meeting and and and that 518 00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:55,680 was um >> I know they went 519 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:58,960 » and Pat Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. 520 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,800 » So, uh we kind of said, "Oh, we didn't know G." And so, 521 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,640 » you save a lot of money by now. The slower we do anything is the better it's 522 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,920 going to be, >> right? Well, I'm not saying we 523 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,440 » save a lot of money, >> but yeah, that would be helpful. So, 524 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:16,079 does that give you enough direction? Okay. And then and then if there's other 525 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:21,200 things coming down the pike that are mandates that we know we're going to 526 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:25,119 have to do and the cog will take care of us. We need to be doing it 527 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,800 prognostically too, right, for the future. 528 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,320 » Okay. All right. Um, so do we we don't need a a motion for that. It's just 529 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,520 direct. >> Just a motion to receive and file. 530 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,440 » I have a motion to receive file. Second. >> All right. All those in favor? 531 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,280 » I >> Okay. None opposed. Thank you. All 532 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:45,760 right. And so that that's all folks unless somebody has something from oh 533 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:50,240 staff was going to make a a comment about this latest the shutdown of 534 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:54,160 rolling hills estates. If you want to hear about 535 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:59,079 » we can we can cancel the we can stop the meeting and if you want to tell people 536 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,079 later that's fine. 537 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:05,280 » Okay. All right. That's fine. All right. So um motion to adjurnn then let's 538 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,800 sojourn. >> Thank you. 539 00:39:05,839 --> 00:39:13,520 » Okay. You you win the war, be >> no 540 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,520 15 minutes if you don't want.